[00:00:09] 03kaldari * 10/trunk/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5/modules/jquery.articleFeedbackv5/jquery.articleFeedbackv5.special.js: follow-up to r105471 - reverting changes now that dependancy is declared [00:00:17] There isn't really a better way, since the logo size depends on the skin(s) being used [00:00:18] You can say that same thing about dozens of things around the skin system and MediaWiki. [00:00:28] That was an issue I listed in my skinning rewrite plans. [00:00:36] eg: the modern(?) skin doesn't even have space for a logo [00:00:49] <^demon|away> modern has grown on me over the years. [00:00:53] ^demon|away: I am also looking to do a project under gsoc with mediawki [00:00:59] <^demon|away> Other than the absolutely crazy code duplication :p [00:01:10] Btw, the logo size restrictions are interesting. [00:01:26] <^demon|away> nischayn22: Well adding logo selection to the installer's not quite enough for a GSoC project. [00:01:41] <^demon|away> And config mgmt overhaul is too big a project for summer -- plus I plan on tackling it myself. [00:02:13] ^demon|away: Oh fuck, we have separate repos for every extension now right? Is there like a parent repo that has them all as submodules? (Or at least the WMF-deployed ones) [00:02:23] * RoanKattouw wants a command to checkout all extensions at once [00:02:35] <^demon|away> The mediawiki/extensions.git repo is the meta repo. [00:02:39] <^demon|away> Or will be soon. [00:02:39] MonoBook is 155x155px, Vector is 160x160px. [00:02:40] Howver. [00:02:41] ^demon|away: do you mentor?..If I could do some parts of it..I h'd love to work with GUI [00:02:43] OK cool [00:03:04] <^demon|away> And wmf-deployed extensions will be submodules in extensions/ in the wmf branch of mediawiki/core.git [00:03:05] <^demon|away> :) [00:03:20] Sweet! [00:03:26] <^demon|away> nischayn22: I don't plan on mentoring this summer, no. [00:03:28] Oh, well, actually no [00:03:32] <^demon|away> I have for the past 2 years, though. [00:03:33] But I'll use the all-extensions repo then [00:03:39] However standard/classic was 135x135px. [00:03:43] (I need the master versions of everything, not the deployed versions) [00:04:07] nostalgia could handle just about any image size [00:04:40] Dantman: isn't there any form of resizing? [00:04:45] No [00:05:05] We don't dynamically resize things that aren't uploaded images. [00:05:33] RoanKattouw: I merged your change [00:05:33] Technically if you used an uploaded image you could point the url to a thumb. [00:05:57] But you would need either a 404 thumbnail handler or to make absolutely sure that you have some page on your wiki using the image at that size. [00:06:07] Ryan_Lane: Thanks [00:06:21] any other pressing reviews needed? [00:06:23] Ryan_Lane: How do I clone a repo anonymously? The instructions don't work [00:06:29] johnduhart: help!, that's terrible [00:06:30] they dont? [00:06:33] catrope@roanLaptop:~/mediawiki/git$ git clone https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/p/mediawiki/extensions [00:06:35] Cloning into extensions... [00:06:36] warning: remote HEAD refers to nonexistent ref, unable to checkout. [00:06:42] that should work.... [00:06:47] nischayn22: Besides, that's a horrid idea... you'd end up thumbnails that are slightly different in size creating fuzzy logos. [00:06:52] Hmm, it works for core [00:07:02] Maybe it's because it's (supposed to be) a meta-repo? [00:07:20] johnduhart: Although to give a fair comparison, browsers originally had the same for event handling. which is basically eval() as well [00:07:22] Dantman: Hmm I will have to give more thought over it [00:07:25] Yeah that repo is broken [00:07:28] heh [00:07:31] catrope@roanLaptop:~/mediawiki/git$ git clone ssh://gerrit.wikimedia.org:29418/mediawiki/extensions.git [00:07:33] Cloning into extensions... [00:07:34] warning: remote HEAD refers to nonexistent ref, unable to checkout. [00:07:36] ^demon|away: ----^^ [00:07:50] <^demon|away> RoanKattouw: I haven't pushed anything to it yet. [00:08:04] <^demon|away> I didn't make these repos with empty commits since I'm pushing history to it. [00:08:15] however editing the localsettings file isn't the good way.. [00:08:19] Oh, so I can't clone this yet? [00:08:24] I want to deprecate $wgLogo and replace it with something where you can declare something like array( '155x155' => '...', '64x236' => '...', '32x32' => '...' ); [00:08:28] I'll just write the script with the assumption that it will work in the future [00:08:29] <^demon|away> RoanKattouw: Not yet :) [00:08:37] This will work by Saturday, right? [00:08:49] <^demon|away> That's the plan. [00:08:52] Then skins will use something like getLogo( '160x160' ); and the skin system will return the url for the logo that best fits the area available. [00:09:01] <^demon|away> Extensions are easy. I'm having more trouble with our various release tags for core. [00:09:12] OK [00:09:35] Dantman: that's good.. [00:10:13] Dantman: still ..what do you think about uploading ..should there be url only or even the upload thing too?? [00:10:19] <^demon|away> RoanKattouw: I can convert all the tags up to 1.6.0. [00:10:31] ;) Of course my real hope is to have {logo|size=160x160} [00:10:36] <^demon|away> That's where we converted from cvs. The old cvs2svn tags convert fine. [00:10:42] <^demon|away> But the manual tags since then don't. [00:10:48] That's sort of surprising to me :) [00:11:18] <^demon|away> Yeah, you'd think it would be the reverse. [00:11:22] <^demon|away> At some point I had it right. [00:11:28] <^demon|away> I had all ~160 tags. [00:11:33] <^demon|away> But then I messed something up [00:11:35] <^demon|away> Wish I knew what. [00:11:37] * ^demon|away sighs [00:11:40] <^demon|away> Ok dinner time [00:11:55] Dantman: how do you suggest to proceed?? I am a newbie in here.. [00:12:07] Proceed? [00:12:26] <^demon|away> RoanKattouw: Pick a name by the time I come back :) [00:12:53] Oh sorry [00:12:58] RoanKattouw: What would you think if the skin system inserted an automatic class onto the logo's container. Then automatically included a resourceloader module that had the logo embedded into the css? [00:12:58] operations/mediawiki-config [00:13:07] <^demon|away> Ok :) [00:13:13] That sounds fine [00:13:47] Dantman: I meant anything I can do about the upload thing.. [00:14:00] <^demon|away> Ugh, you probably wanted --empty-commit didn't you [00:14:08] <^demon|away> Oh well, easy enough to work around. [00:15:05] <^demon|away> RoanKattouw: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#admin,project,operations/mediawiki-config,info [00:15:50] <^demon|away> I didn't do an initial empty commit, so you'll have to make a local git repo, add it as the remote, commit then push to give the remote a HEAD [00:15:55] Thanks [00:15:59] Yeah, I know how that works [00:16:12] Am I a project owner? [00:16:23] Hmm no I'm not [00:16:40] We need a 'deployers' group or something, I'll set that up [00:16:46] <^demon|away> I made 'wmf' project owner for now [00:16:50] <^demon|away> Should suffice. [00:16:52] KO good [00:29:32] New code comment: Kaldari; It looks like you're implementing a getter and a setter in the same function in checkoutResult(), wh; [00:42:13] 03(mod) Image on Commons is not displayed in a generated PDF file - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34611 +comment (10ralf) [00:43:22] 03(mod) Logs corrupt or have big delays - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34653 +comment (10arichards) [00:43:34] 03(mod) Logs corrupt or have big delays - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34653 (10Arthur Richards) [00:43:36] 03(mod) Special:Contributions/Newbies lists contributions by user "Newbies" instead of new account edits - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34659 +comment (10robla) [00:43:42] 03(FIXED) Special:Contributions/Newbies lists contributions by user "Newbies" instead of new account edits - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34659 (10Rob Lanphier) [00:44:03] 03aaron * 10/branches/wmf/1.19wmf1/includes/filerepo/backend/FileBackend.php: MFT r112259 [00:49:19] Ryan_Lane: ok, so, I am interested in doing more with the OpenStack conference. This is in late April, you said? [00:49:29] April 16-20, SF [00:49:41] http://www.openstack.org/conference/san-francisco-2012/ [00:50:02] Krinkle: The worse part is the json subsitution with %json [00:50:36] Ryan_Lane: and you should also email Karen the prospectus for sponsorship, and any deadlines. [00:51:38] Ooh, Embarcadero Center [00:51:40] That's close [00:53:58] 03aaron * 10/trunk/phase3/includes/StreamFile.php: Added some StreamFile profiling [00:55:30] RoanKattouw: you know there used to be an ugly Embarcadero highway (480) [00:55:40] * AaronSchulz was looking that up last week [00:55:48] Yeah [00:55:53] And then they had the freeway revolt [00:56:02] sumanah: can we talk in a different channel? [00:56:05] Sure. [00:56:09] It sounds like a really good idea though, connecting the bridges [00:56:16] you aren't there :) [00:56:17] Right now getting from one bridge to the other sucks [00:56:35] yeah, I was thinking about that, but how often do people need to cross them? [00:56:48] It's probably an edge case, yeah [00:56:51] Sausalito people going to Oakland? [00:56:54] Yeah [00:56:56] ;) [00:57:12] You will very quickly have either the Richmond-SR or the San Mateo bridge as an alternative [00:57:23] But even then, getting from the South Bay to the GG Bridge also sucks [00:57:37] omg RoanKattouw + SF = yet more transit trivia [00:57:40] if the 89 quake didn't happen that ugly thing might still be here [00:58:25] haha [00:58:29] Yup [00:59:57] you should see the freeway plan from the 1950s [01:00:36] http://www.kurumi.com/roads/3di/sanfran.html [01:00:41] 03aaron * 10/branches/wmf/1.19wmf1/ (. includes/ includes/StreamFile.php): MFT r112378 [01:02:57] That actually makes sense [01:03:14] I mean at least parts of it [01:03:49] Wait, Southern Crossing? They were gonna build a second Bay Bridge? :O [01:11:08] 03(mod) Some corrupt thumbs remain from initial Swift deploy - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34695 +comment (10ralf) [01:27:57] I had mediawiki 1.17 installed and it worked for. Yesterday, however I deleted it and installed 1.18. However now I'm getting "Your edit has been rejected because your client mangled the punctuation characters in the edit token." when ever I attempt to edit. Anyone know a solution? [01:28:11] worked fine* [01:28:49] I'm not using a proxy, browser is just FF. [01:29:08] It happens for everyone [01:34:10] anyone? [01:35:57] i've tried installing in binary and UTF-8, same result. [01:36:55] PHP: 5.2.17 / MYSQL: 5.1.56 [01:38:29] ಠ_ಠ [01:40:25] You might want to try giving people the url for your wiki so they can test [01:40:38] Also if you can you might as well see what upgrading php does [01:40:41] 5.2 is EOL [01:42:10] For some reason MediaWiki still supports 5.2 :/ [01:42:55] 03awjrichards * 10/trunk/extensions/MobileFrontend/MobileFrontend.body.php: Implement dynamic mobile url functionality (replacing the old way of building the mobile URL). added ability to force https when building the mobile URL. At the moment this has only been tested against unit tests. [01:43:22] 03aaron * 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ (StreamFile.php filerepo/backend/FileBackend.php): More file streaming related profiling [01:44:20] 03aaron * 10/branches/wmf/1.19wmf1/ (4 files in 3 dirs): MFT r112381 [01:55:31] hi there [01:55:42] i'm interested in helping with the mediawiki project [01:55:58] and am wondering if anyone has any suggestions on how to start [01:56:09] Have you raed https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_become_a_MediaWiki_hacker ? [01:56:11] *read [01:56:17] That's our introduction page for developers [01:56:50] k, i saw theres a new vs coming out an that it needs tested... [01:56:56] Yes, that too [01:57:03] what exactly needs tested? [01:57:07] It's already been deployed to a number of web sites [01:57:10] should I try installing one on my system [01:57:21] So I think we're kind of past the testing phase already [01:57:22] or are there spots online that just need read/clicked/etc [01:57:28] I honestly don't know [01:57:30] robla: ---^^ ? [01:57:48] looking for spelling/grammar/broken links/etc [01:58:48] gonyere: there's lots of different stuff to do...what's your interest area? [01:58:58] ...and level of technical ability [01:59:17] ...and if you understand other languages, that's also huge [01:59:19] technical ability? low, i'm very sorry to say... i'd love to change that [01:59:25] i do understand spanish [01:59:41] though my grammar, esp written is pretty bad, i'll be honest [02:00:04] one thing we need is help finding issues people report on talk pages, and getting them into our bug database [02:00:17] k, where are those? [02:00:27] * robla looks up some links [02:01:02] we've deployed to all of the wikis except for the ones in the "Wikipedia" column: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:SiteMatrix [02:01:34] k [02:01:37] 03aaron * 10/trunk/phase3/includes/filerepo/backend/FileBackend.php: Fixed $headers check in streamFile() to use isset() [02:01:42] Lmao, jidanni's reply to dantman's wikitech thread [02:01:45] gonyere: so...for example, there's http://es.wiktionary.org/ [02:01:55] ;) just wait [02:02:15] gonyere: each site has something equivalent to "Village Pump" off to the left [02:02:45] in the case of http://es.wiktionary.org/ ...looks like "Cafe" is probably where it's at [02:02:53] yeah [02:03:51] so, just reporting the bugs that people talk about basicly? [02:04:52] gonyere: yeah....checking for duplicates and that sort of thing [02:08:25] k [02:08:36] just in spanish or in english too? [02:10:30] gonyere: (sorry got pulled away) [02:10:45] english would be great, too [02:11:36] k [02:11:40] i'll probably report bugs in english [02:11:53] oh, right, yes ,please do [02:11:58] since i'm guessing they'll probably exist across languages [02:13:03] gonyere: see http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump#MW1.19:_problem_-_Upload_Wizard:_describe_field_only_shows_11_languages [02:13:14] this is one that has already been pulled into Bugzilla [02:13:38] you'll see the template off to the right linking to BZ [02:14:05] oh, cool [02:14:38] is bugzilla here the same as on like gnome? [02:14:48] we don't need the fancy template (though that would be nice), but just getting things into BZ, and then letting people know you did it [02:14:59] k [02:15:11] gotta run now, but thanks! [02:15:19] thank you:) [02:22:40] 03(mod) [SF] Special:RunQuery enhancement to be able to populate red-links automatically - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34150 +comment (10fastgoldfish) [02:32:58] johnduhart-mobil: the argument in the link he pointed out seems a bit outdated, You can do the same type of rewrite (using different methods) on most hosting these days apart from either free or cheap crap [02:33:04] and he pinged out... [02:44:32] p858snake|l: Actually I'm pretty sure you can do that even on most free hosts ;) [02:44:59] probably, but freehosts generally have other worse issues [02:45:35] johnduhart: hi! [02:46:31] hi sumanah [02:46:40] hi gonyere! [02:46:55] sorry I've been so busy today. How's life for you? [02:47:00] pretty good [02:47:32] i've got a b in math, which i'm pretty amazed by, so i should be taking the first couple computer science classes this summer :) [02:48:00] hee! [02:48:12] gonyere: do you know what language they'll be teaching in? [02:48:20] you know, i'm not sure [02:48:31] thats a good question... [02:52:06] 03(mod) Add ability to customize Narayam on-wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34693 +comment (10praveenp) [03:02:27] 03kaldari * 10/trunk/phase3/resources/jquery.ui/themes/vector/jquery.ui.datepicker.css: fixing bug 34609 - datepicker should always be set to display:none by default [03:02:53] 03(FIXED) jQuery UI Datepicker div visible - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34609 +comment (10Ryan Kaldari) [03:06:58] 03(mod) New Hook: "InternalParseBeforeSanitize" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34678 +comment (10Daniel Werner) [03:08:40] you know, they don't say... i should ask [03:15:39] gonyere: yeah [03:15:43] hi santhosh [03:16:01] New code comment: MZMcBride; I'm not sure how you'd test it. I just found it strange that there weren't associated tests to make ; [03:16:22] johnduhart: RoanKattouw_away: anyone else who cares: should we be attempting to consistently capitalize or lowercase git and/or gerrit? [03:16:40] oh, so i talked to robla just a few minutes ago and am looking through the discussion area/forums in english right now for bugs that need reporting [03:16:59] gonyere: cool [03:17:02] thanks! [03:17:13] I'm not sure why you'd make "Git" lowercase. [03:17:23] gonyere: I'm editing https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Workflow [03:17:28] Or "Gerrit." [03:17:31] once i get through them, or at least semi-comfortable, i'll start trying ones in spanish [03:17:35] At least not in anything formal. On IRC, it's fine. [03:17:58] The man page for git lowercases it throughout. [03:18:34] But its website uppercases the G. [03:18:41] gonyere: ooh, cool. [03:19:10] I think the man page is inconsistent. [03:19:14] At least my version seems to be. [03:19:37] gonyere: We really appreciate that, thanks! [03:19:39] Most of the lowercase references seem to be to the command. [03:19:41] Which would be lowercase. [03:19:50] But when it's used as a name, it's capitalized. [03:19:57] > [03:19:58] DESCRIPTION [03:19:58] Git is a fast, [03:19:58] > [03:20:21] > [03:20:22] The COMMAND is either a name of a Git command (see below) or an alias [03:20:22] as defined in the configuration file (see git-config(1)). [03:20:22] > [03:20:43] Versus something like... [03:20:44] > [03:20:44] Do not pipe git output into a pager. [03:20:45] > [03:21:13] SVN probably does the same thing. [03:21:38] gonyere: have you ever used Git? (or git) :-) [03:21:51] Hmm, no, it just uses "Subversion" for the proper name. Lame. [03:21:55] lol no [03:21:59] just forums & bugzilla [03:22:09] an wiki's [03:22:33] gonyere: someday, and probably soon, you'll learn git. It's useful. [03:22:42] k :) [03:29:35] apple.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Ref [03:30:09] Will there ever be an $wgRecursionLimit (default is 1) which can be changed for debugging purposes? [03:31:15] For example, if $wgRecursionLimit is 2, it will expand the {{Ref}} in it, and then when it tries to expand the {{Ref}} in the {{Ref}}, it will just fail and display "Template loop detected" [03:32:16] However, at the default value (1), the parser will refuse to expand a {{Ref}} in Template:Ref [03:34:00] Another purpose for this, other than debugging, is that I would want $wgRecursionLimit set to a really high number such as 768 on http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/ intentionally for the "Infinite recursion" template [03:35:37] If there are no other bugs in MediaWiki that you can be working on fixing, you can work on the low-priority $wgRecursionLimit request. [03:40:16] Olirpo? $wgRecursionLimit? [03:41:23] Two examples - if $wgRecursionLimit is 1 (default), {{Infinite recursion|Content|Section header}} would display: [03:41:26] Content [03:41:32] =Section header= [03:41:42] Template loop detected: Template:Infinite recursion [03:42:02] If $wgRecursionLimit is 3, {{Infinite recursion|Content|Section header}} should display: [03:42:04] Content [03:42:07] =Section header= [03:42:09] Content [03:42:13] ==Section header== [03:42:16] Content [03:42:21] ===Section header=== [03:42:31] Template loop detected: Template:Infinite recursion [03:43:19] 03(mod) Please create a Marathi Wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33907 +comment (10mahitgar) [03:44:51] Olirpo? $wgRecursionLimit? [03:51:34] Joan: Git is a name so it should have a capital, although their logo doesn't seem to capitalise it http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Git_(software) [03:59:46] * werdna waves [04:00:20] 03(mod) Support for INR symbol - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34650 +comment (10Mahitgar) [04:10:24] just upgraded from 1.16.4 to 1.18.1 and my unmodified monobook skin broke. Left nav is gone, no top tabs, etc. etc. A mailing list search turned up nothing. Where should I look next? A log perhaps? [04:11:30] !debug | wmat [04:11:30] wmat: For information on debugging (including viewing errors), see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:How_to_debug [04:11:36] could be, wmat [04:12:36] ok, robla, Reedy, et al., https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Workflow is now about as complete as it needs to be for the Monday tutorial [04:17:21] k...thanks [04:18:06] robla: I know it's late for you, but https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git_conversion#Unscheduled_items may cause you to fire off emails [04:18:33] as in, which of these do we really need to schedule for before March 3rd, or during March [04:18:34] hi chughakshay16 [04:18:57] hi sumanah [04:19:11] wmat: Sounds like a typical issue to doe with a flawed setup. ie: Sounds like somethings wrong with using load.php [04:19:47] one question : yesterfay uou suggested me to provide a link for the thread which i started on wikitech-l at my meta-wiki page [04:19:55] but i cant seem to find it [04:20:16] Dantman: thx, I'll look into that. I'm just trying to determine now if anything changed regarding $wgDefaultSkin [04:20:45] Well, the default is now vector, but that's not really anything special [04:21:03] sumanah : http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l at this link there doesnt seem to be any link to the thread which i started [04:21:17] wmat: What are you using for short urls? Do you have any strange setup with how you have your directories configured? Are you on a free host that appends things to php? [04:21:23] chughakshay16: not yet, maybe. [04:21:38] chughakshay16: Sometimes it takes a few days. [04:22:19] chughakshay16: if no one responds over the weekend, then you will have to think about how to be more appealing and get people interested, how to communicate in a way that makes people think "this is interesting" and ask questions that they will want to answer [04:22:22] Dantman: I'm using Aliasing method as described here http://bit.ly/zLA8pi [04:22:31] sumanah : was i supposed to start a new thread for my mail or what i did was the right way to do ? [04:22:54] chughakshay16: Look in http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2012-February/thread.html [04:22:55] wmat: That's one of the semi-real bad ways to do it [04:22:57] Dantman: I just noticed a different setup for 1.18, let me try that [04:23:27] Dantman: is there a 'best' way? I'd happily change. [04:23:41] chughakshay16: I see that you sent your note twice. The second time was better because you started a new thread. [04:23:46] http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2012-February/058387.html [04:24:06] wmat: Use rewrite rules with a -d and -f rewrite condition [04:24:14] chughakshay16: Think from the perspective of a person reading the email list. If something shows up in her email, a useful subject line helps her understand whether to pay attention to it. [04:24:53] sumanah : found the link for my thread :) [04:25:23] chughakshay16: yes. And if you want to view this list in a more web-like fashion to see the threads more visually, http://news.gmane.org/gmane.science.linguistics.wikipedia.technical can help [04:25:29] chughakshay16: What's your wiki's url? [04:25:44] Dantman: is that in the manual or described somewhere well? [04:26:17] sumanah : but since i have already posted once wouldnt it be redundant if i posted again on the mail list ? [04:26:19] :) [04:26:58] chughakshay16: As you may have noticed from looking at our list, sometimes people post about the same topic more than once, but that's because something has changed, or they have new information, etc. [04:27:24] chughakshay16: also, if you got zero interest the first time, sometimes that's because you wrote in a boring or inaccessible way. [04:27:28] Ach... I mean [04:27:33] wmat: What's your wiki's url? [04:27:54] Dantman: elinux.org, but that's the live site. I'm working on a dev instance [04:28:24] Gah... [04:28:24] Dantman : https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/ConventionExtension [04:28:55] wmat: That instance isn't publicly available is it? [04:29:10] Dantman: no, sorry [04:29:20] sumanah : yeah that could be true because i made it a long one :) [04:29:25] Ugh... guess my tool won't be of help here [04:29:32] Dantman: I've fixed the issue though, it was the load.php issue as you stated [04:29:46] chughakshay16: I need to go. It's 30 minutes till midnight here and I need to finish up. [04:30:15] sumanah : okay, and thanks !! [04:30:22] Glad I can help! :) [04:30:32] Dantman: I'll switch to the rewrite method of short urls eventually [04:31:45] wmat: It should look something like this http://p.defau.lt/?HQW_utvbQZGltMxrWZJbqQ [04:33:51] Dantman: thx, i'll try that in dev [04:42:33] 03(mod) Add ability to customize Narayam on-wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34693 +comment (10santhosh.thottingal) [05:44:37] 03(NEW) Enable Narayam/WebFonts for sa.* - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34700 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Narayam; (mah) [05:45:05] 03(mod) Enable Narayam/WebFonts for am.* - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34700 summary (10Mark A. Hershberger) [05:59:27] 03(NEW) ar.wikinews.org isn't in SUL? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34701 normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (mah) [06:23:22] 03(NEW) Use localised parentheses in Special:Contributions, RecentChanges and ShortPages (and possibly others) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34702 normal; MediaWiki: Internationalization; (whym) [07:59:10] Hmmm... MW.org sysop? [07:59:19] This doesn't look like it would even work https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL/Ignoring_the_Trailing_slash [08:15:02] Dantman: and? [08:15:20] Like the last junk manual page. Delete. [08:57:27] 04(REOPENED) unable to (SUL-)login on ru.wikiversity.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34512 +comment (10Axpde) [09:02:02] 03raymond * 10/trunk/translatewiki/MediaWiki/mediawiki-defines.txt: r112358: Message key to be ignored now for translatewiki.net because the message has no translatable content [09:03:47] New code comment: Raymond; {{messagedocumentation}} \ As far as I see the keywords "specific", "base", "all" may not be translat; [09:09:32] 03(NEW) Unable to change file extension while uploading file - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34703 normal; MediaWiki extensions: UploadWizard; (liangent) [10:06:53] 03(NEW) MediaWiki 1.19 without annoucement ! - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34704 critical; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (lambdav) [10:20:07] 03(NEW) CentralAuth local account created without email - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34705 major; MediaWiki extensions: CentralAuth; (hashar) [10:21:38] 03(mod) unable to (SUL-)login on ru.wikiversity.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34512 +comment (10hashar) [10:21:50] 03(mod) unable to (SUL-)login on ru.wikiversity.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34512 (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [10:21:52] 03(mod) CentralAuth local account created without email - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34705 (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [10:21:55] 03(mod) unable to (SUL-)login on uz.wikiquote.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34381 (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [10:21:56] 03(mod) CentralAuth local account created without email - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34705 (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [10:22:37] 03(mod) CentralAuth local account created without email - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34705 (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [10:22:39] 03(mod) unable to (SUL-)login on ru.wikiversity.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34512 (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [10:22:41] 03(mod) unable to (SUL-)login on uz.wikiquote.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34381 (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [10:24:27] 03(mod) unable to (SUL-)login on ru.wikiversity.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34512 +comment (10hashar) [10:27:30] 03(mod) CentralAuth local account created without email - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34705 +comment (10hashar) [10:31:39] 03(FIXED) unable to (SUL-)login on ru.wikiversity.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34512 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [10:42:41] 03(mod) ar.wikinews.org isn't in SUL? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34701 +comment (10sam) [10:43:38] 03(mod) Create a Arbcom namespace on Russian Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34527 +comment (10vasilvv) [10:45:00] vvv: hello, if you know anything about CentralAuth, there is a nasty bug that creates unusable local accounts :-D https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34705 [10:45:19] Well, I do know something about it [10:46:10] 03(ASSIGNED) Script tag within p, which may cause incorrect Facebook snippet - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34660 +fundraising (10Peter Gehres (WMF)) [10:47:36] hashar: what do you mean by unreachable? [10:48:10] Are there any other users with the same trouble? [10:48:37] just axpde so far [10:49:05] by unreachable, I mean the account is created with NULL passwords and email [10:49:12] so you can't log in nor reset password [10:49:18] hashar: I believe this may be a user-specific problem [10:49:36] SQL dumps from the live database : https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34512#c9 [10:49:39] So I can't really debug this since I have no DB access [10:51:00] it might be an issue in CentralAuth workflow where we might be creating the account even when centralauth did not send any useful informations [11:09:32] 03(mod) Set $wgPFEnableStringFunctions = true on WMF wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/6455 +comment (10vasilvv) [11:25:08] is there a means to get a ResourceLoader file to update NOW! ? [11:25:35] beyond going in and changing the (s)maxage settings [11:36:39] i need to call an ajax request in a Specialpage. can it be done through extension or directly in the source file? [12:16:41] can anyone help me regarding how /mw-config/index.php works for installation ?? [12:17:55] yuvipanda: hi [12:19:59] 03ialex * 10/trunk/extensions/UploadLocal/UploadLocal.i18n.php: Fix syntax error and trim some whitespaces [12:28:04] 03(NEW) Side-by-side functionality broken in Chrome and possibly some Internet Explorer - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34706 major; MediaWiki extensions: ProofreadPage; (billinghurst) [12:52:09] 03(NEW) Enchant Sugestion mode does not work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34707 normal; MediaWiki extensions: SphinxSearch; (emilhugo) [13:15:39] 03(mod) "Enable dialogs for inserting links, tables and more" preference is confusing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30796 +comment (10nischayn22) [13:21:33] 03ialex * 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialFilepath.php: Use local context to get messages [13:23:49] 03ialex * 10/trunk/phase3/includes/db/ (6 files): Pass __METHOD__ to DatabaseBase::begin(), DatabaseBase::commit() and DatabaseBase::rollback() [13:25:11] nischayn22: hi [13:25:26] i saw your comment about https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30796 [13:25:37] aharoni: hi [13:25:38] are you familiar with the uselang=qqx trick? [13:26:02] aharoni: I am a newbie in here trying to learn stuff [13:26:10] Is that an api quirk [13:26:22] cool, welcome! [13:26:34] try this: [13:26:41] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Preferences?uselang=qqx [13:26:43] are you a contributor or a mentor?? [13:26:56] i am a developer. [13:27:03] i'm not a mentor... yet :) [13:27:21] so anyway, try that URL. [13:27:27] aharoni: is a very humble man [13:27:55] it's the English Wikipedia preferences page, but instead of labels in English, you see the message keys as they appear in the source code. [13:28:11] you can use these message keys to search the source code very easily. [13:29:18] you can add ?uselang=qqx at the end of any MediaWiki URL (or &uselang=qqx, if there already are parameters) [13:29:57] OrenOf: thank you, i don't deserve it... [13:30:21] aharoni: you almost don't deserve it [13:30:25] ;-) [13:31:27] where to search in source code ?? locally or in the svn online code?? [13:32:40] localy you can look into the config files [13:32:41] aharoni: I am new to Open Source .. also [13:33:08] OrenOf : thank you...am trying! [13:34:37] nischayn22: if you checked out the source using SVN, search it using something like grep or the "search in files" function in your favorite text editor [13:35:27] if you downloaded a zip with the PHP files, you can search there, too, but it's easier to submit patches using SVN [13:37:08] aharoni: in windows 7 I can search in the search box itself and it checks all the files but now I switched to Ubuntu and it only searches for file names not the contents [13:41:25] nischayn22: go to the main directory of the MediaWiki source and do something like this: [13:41:28] grep -r "message-key" * [13:41:40] replace "message-key" with the message for which you're looking. [13:42:01] in this case it would be wikieditor-toolbar-dialogs-preference ... [13:42:29] however, that happens to be a message from a MediaWiki extension and not core MediaWiki itself. [13:44:43] aharoni: ah! I remember grep from class ..just never used it that much..whats that * at the end for?? [13:44:54] to search all files. [13:45:14] there's a tool, which is like grep but better. [13:45:19] called "ack-grep". [13:45:28] there you don't need the "-r" and the "*". [13:45:31] aharoni: but that didn [13:45:46] didn't return anything [13:45:54] blank result [13:46:20] install ack-grep, it will make searching easier: [13:46:29] sudo apt-get install ack-grep [13:46:53] it didn't return any result, because this message comes from an extension and not from MediaWiki itself. [13:47:15] it's a bit hard to tell them apart at first, but here's an easy trick: [13:47:26] go to www.translatewiki.net [13:47:44] in the search box type: "MediaWiki:message-key", for [13:48:25] gents, how it is possible that I can edit a page from a other users from my own account? [13:48:29] Shouldn't this be protected? [13:49:19] ries, it's a wiki. everybody can edit everything. [13:49:25] ries: you can set it to be protected if you want..but you mostly don't ..thats why its called a wiki..anyone can edit [13:49:37] nischayn22: sorry, something better: [13:49:45] nischayn22: aharoni But wouldn't my wiki not get spammed within days? [13:50:18] ries: there are ways to prevent that.. [13:50:19] if you take good care of it, it wouldn't :) [13:50:29] look at Wikipedia :) [13:50:44] aharoni: but I wouldn't like to babysit hunders of pages and go to them every day…. spam modules are available? [13:51:03] ries: try googling how to prevent spam on wiki pages.. [13:51:13] aharoni: Wikipedia is managed by people with loads of servers and knowledge, I am just doing a request our users have… so they can make documentation for a project [13:51:21] aharoni: whats the better way? [13:52:08] ok, so: go to www.translatewiki.net and search for "MediaWiki:wikieditor-toolbar-dialogs-preference/en" [13:52:24] instead of "wikieditor-toolbar-dialogs-preference" you can search for any other message key. [13:53:24] and then click the tab that says "Message list" at the top [13:54:00] and then you'll see in the "Group" field whether this is a MediaWiki message or an extension message. [13:54:13] for this message the group will be "WikiEditor", which is a name of an extension. [13:54:50] ries: you can try preventing spam using the following tricks: [13:54:53] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Combating_spam [13:55:15] and http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access [13:55:49] find the right combination for your organization. for a wiki, the best way to start is with as few restriction as possible and to add them according to need. [13:55:56] i'll be back after lunch [13:56:54] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:AkismetKlik [13:57:05] I have good experience with Akishment on a blog... [14:01:33] ries: so aharoni 's link were helpful i guess [14:01:43] 03(mod) Add step property to the pages tag - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34689 +need-review; +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [14:02:21] nischayn22: yup… I have done all my life CMS systems, and a wiki is just the complete opposite of what I did in the CMS world [14:20:40] i'm back. [14:21:09] ries, some people find it very disturbing that they can easily edit other people's texts and vice versa. [14:21:39] but we think that it's a lot of fun (as long as everybody behaves) [14:22:06] nischayn22: did you find the source code? [14:22:32] aharoni: my problem is not so much behave… but people putting incorrect information at place it shouldn't. [14:23:09] We are trying to make a manual for LibreCAD, but if people put tips and tricks at some pages because they find it handy there. Then somebody else need to move it in place again creating extra work [14:23:26] 03siebrand * 10/trunk/translatewiki/EOL/EOL.yaml: Update tags. [14:23:52] that's a part of behaving and building a wiki community that gradually finds the right rules. [14:24:02] usually some careful leadership helps. [14:24:02] /ignore codurr [14:25:05] there are tons of articles and books that describe growth of wiki editing communities. you can read them and learn... [14:25:26] or you can just let people do whatever they find comfortable and productive and give them hints what could they do better. [14:25:56] aharoni: for now I will see where fit loads to.. I put one guy on the project … [14:26:32] 03(NEW) In some Help sections of WikiEditor, the ‘What you get’ column shows raw HTML instead of rendered text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34708 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikiEditor; (veeven) [14:28:05] 03siebrand * 10/trunk/translatewiki/EOL/EOL.yaml: Follow-up r112389: replace spaces by underscores. [14:32:04] 03(mod) In some Help sections of WikiEditor, the ‘What you get’ column shows raw HTML instead of rendered text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34708 +comment (10veeven) [14:34:43] 03siebrand * 10/trunk/translatewiki/EOL/EOL.yaml: Update tags. [14:42:25] hi Duesentrieb [14:42:39] 03siebrand * 10/trunk/translatewiki/EOL/EOL.yaml: Update tags. [14:47:29] hi santhosh -- just wanted to point you at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Summer_of_Code_2012#Mentor_signup again :-) [14:47:45] yuvipanda: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Summer_of_Code_2012#Mentor_signup :) [14:49:13] 03siebrand * 10/trunk/translatewiki/EOL/EOL.yaml: Update tags. [14:49:56] aharoni: no ..it says translation for en has been disabled [15:01:50] nischayn22: it's ok [15:01:54] you don't need to translate. [15:02:57] you only need it to see to which group it belongs. [15:03:47] aharoni: wikiEditor is present in my extensions dir but still grep did not show any result.. [15:04:47] are you sure? it works for me [15:05:00] grep -r "wikieditor-toolbar-dialogs-preference" * [15:05:24] you are supposed to cd to the WikiEditor directory and run it there. [15:07:02] aharoni : I see it now..initially my pwd was mediawiki [15:09:40] so, that's the trick. it looks weird at first, but you get used to it. [15:09:56] now, you'll find a lot of results in i18n.php files; these are the translations. [15:10:24] Hey guys, I'm looking in to participate in this years GSoC. I'm considering to apply to mediaWiki as a project, I'm interested in Java server side technologies [15:10:27] 03siebrand * 10/trunk/translatewiki/Wikia/extensions.txt: Update support for Wikia MediaWiki extensions. [15:10:42] but the other files in which you find results with this message - that's where it is actually used. [15:10:57] aharoni: hooks.php? [15:11:06] can be [15:11:34] in this case, it definitely is. [15:13:35] hi qballer [15:13:43] Hi [15:13:54] qballer: tell me more about how you think Java stuff could aid Wikimedia [15:14:01] the somewhat obvious: Lucene [15:14:11] OrenOf: ^ OrenDsk ^ [15:15:01] nischayn22: now what you can try to do is to find on which page element is this label used, then to find to which preference is it related, and then to remove the need for this preference. it should just always be on. [15:15:13] if you need help, ask me here. [15:15:14] !gsoc [15:15:27] argh, bot died. Reedy? [15:15:59] aharoni: yes I am trying to get how its done.. [15:16:00] qballer: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Summer_of_Code_2012#Project_ideas has some project ideas, and people have been talking about others on the mailing lists and here [15:16:20] Amm this is really my first glance at mediaWiki architecture. This is more of query on whats going on. I'm not sure if the Org point in the direction that they want improvement or if any student idea is considered. [15:16:58] Let me tell you a bit about myselff. [15:17:02] myself( [15:17:11] OK! [15:17:30] sumanah: RE [15:17:51] (The answer is: each GSoC mentoring organization, such as MediaWiki, does mention some project ideas as seeds to get people thinking, but is also very open to students' ideas!) [15:18:19] aharoni: I want to name langauge specific resources [15:18:42] should I use ISO639 codes ? [15:18:50] I'm a computer science student from Israel. It's my last year and during the summer I should have a lot more time. I decided to do GSoC before I look in to a "real" job because I wanted to sharpen my skills. If I'm not mistaken i see some Israelis here. [15:18:51] is there a better way [15:19:09] qballer: there are [15:19:18] OrenDsk, you should always use ISO639 codes for everything. you should eat them for breakfast and read them before you sleep. [15:19:37] what is your minor [15:20:08] Wikimedia is one of the best collection of information sites I've ever seen and I thought maybe to contribute. The only real issue, is that I care little for client side application, so I'm looking for a server side project [15:20:31] aharoni: hee! :-) [15:20:42] qballer: well, MediaWiki does run on servers, so there's that! [15:20:44] qballer: what is your minor [15:21:08] Computer Networks [15:21:13] qballer: you may be interested in this overview: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:MediaWiki_architecture [15:21:22] thanks! [15:21:25] :D [15:21:25] sure! [15:21:29] Glad to help. [15:21:37] So, you know Java. What else do you know? [15:21:43] qballer: what is your mishni besides computer science [15:21:46] 03(mod) Please create a Marathi Wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33907 +comment (10Platonides) [15:22:11] (I'm MediaWiki's "organizational administrator" for GSoC, qballer, so I tend to know a lot about what we're doing. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Summer_of_Code_2012#Student_signup has more resources.) [15:22:32] I study in MTA, there is no Mishni . I specialize in Networks [15:22:40] "Mishni" [15:22:41] qballer: Thanks for the kind words about Wikipedia. Isn't it great? :-) [15:22:50] * sumanah lives in US, looks up "Mishni" [15:22:50] it is. [15:23:01] Minor in hebrew [15:23:42] And yes, people do find that GSoC is a rewarding experience. [15:23:53] 03ialex * 10/ (6 files in 6 dirs): * (bug 34528) Don't parse section name in edit section tooltips [15:24:02] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Summer_of_Code_Past_Projects has some summaries of what people have done for MediaWiki GSoC projects in past years. [15:24:10] is there any past mentors around? [15:24:14] and qballer you may also find http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCStudentGuide/ useful. [15:24:14] 03(FIXED) Templates are parsed in edit section title - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34528 +comment (10Alexandre Emsenhuber [IAlex]) [15:24:15] Yes! [15:24:20] GSoC students? [15:24:24] qballer: yes, those too [15:24:40] OrenDsk, a couple of quirks with ISO 639 codes: [15:24:49] qballer: hey even I am looking to take part in gsoc [15:24:52] sumanah you a past mentor [15:24:56] qballer: what is MTA ? [15:25:12] qballer: ashley, Reedy, Yaron, apergos, and several other people here have been past mentors. [15:25:12] http://www.mta.ac.il [15:25:17] aharoni: like what [15:25:18] aharoni: I could hardly understand what the code is trying to do [15:25:20] 1. some of them can be both two-letters and three-letters. if what you do is related to wikimedia, just use whatever the wikipedia in that language uses. [15:25:34] qballer: and Nikerabbit, yuvipanda, and some other folks here are past students. [15:25:53] nice, how come you know all about this? [15:25:56] e.g.: "he" can be also "heb". you should probably use "he", because of he.wikipedia.org. [15:25:57] qballer: no, I have never been a GSoC mentor. I am not an expert in the MediaWiki codebase. I'm the Wikimedia Foundation's volunteer development coordinator. [15:26:15] qballer: well, I'm in charge of administering our participation in GSoC. :-) [15:26:48] aharoni: some of them have / which is no good for file names [15:27:04] sumanah: can you ask some previous year's participants to help us newcomers? [15:27:11] I'm really just interested in media Wiki because of the organization. ASF probably have better projects for me, but I'm a fan of Wikipedia [15:27:17] New code comment: Platonides; Apparently good, but needs parser tests.; [15:27:30] nischayn22: tell me about the specific kind of help you need. Honestly, asking for help here and in the mailing lists should give you the help you need. [15:27:33] LOL :" ) [15:28:00] I wanna go over the architecture and see if anything pops to mind. [15:28:02] nischayn22: also, their names are all at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Summer_of_Code_Past_Projects -- you can ask them! :-) [15:28:44] sumanah: yes I am trying to fix the enhancement at the annoying little bugs page..aharoni is very kind in helping me.. [15:29:02] 2. some wikimedia projects use WRONG ISO 639. it is bad, but it is hard to fix. see https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Language_code for details. [15:29:03] qballer: Yeah, our organization does some amazing things. :-) OrenDsk / OrenOf is interested in mentoring a student this summer (maybe, if he has time) to do some Java work, to improve our Lucene search integration and functionality. [15:29:08] but when its morning here in India there are little people in the irc online [15:29:16] aharoni: I'm automating building bi lingual lexicons [15:29:16] nischayn22: Then you email, right? [15:29:26] nischayn22: also, santhosh and yuvipanda are in India [15:29:38] as is srikanthlogic [15:29:45] and 3.: google and java, incl. android, use some deprecated codes. for examples "iw" instead of "he" for hebrew. [15:30:04] OrenDsk^ [15:30:12] and what exactly is bad for filenames? [15:30:25] sumanah: ok..I shall contact them for help [15:30:32] nischayn22: welcome to our tricky code :) [15:30:38] !seen santhosh [15:30:38] nischayn22, santhosh is right here! [15:30:43] slashes - unless they indicate either or [15:30:50] santosh: hello [15:31:00] nischayn22: Remember: asking HERE IN IRC or on the mailing list increases your chances of getting an answer. [15:31:13] chi/zho [15:31:32] nischayn22: If you ask in private, you are creating a single point of failure. Bad engineering! If you ask in public, you enable hundreds of people to help you solve your problem. [15:31:38] aharoni: How does the logic work?? all i see in that file is declaration for most part [15:32:02] 14(DUP) Account creation form should check username validity interactively - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/21416 +comment (10Alexandre Emsenhuber [IAlex]) [15:32:04] 03(mod) "Check Availability" feature for usernames at registration interface - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34447 +comment (10Alexandre Emsenhuber [IAlex]) [15:32:13] nischayn22: i'm with you in a sec [15:32:23] OrenDsk: where do you see chi/zho? [15:32:38] it's probably two codes for the same language, probably mandarin. [15:33:03] and i guess that chi is deprecated, zho is current, and "zh" is what Wikimedia actually uses. [15:33:12] nischayn22: and, the best practice when you have a question is to simply ask the room in general first. Then, if you wait 5 minutes and no one answers you, then you start (again, in public) mentioning the names of specific people whom you suspect could help you [15:33:31] nischayn22: of course you should attempt to solve the problem yourself first :-) [15:33:35] sumanah: yes its true..its just that I din't find anyone the whole morning today..so I have to work at midnight..but its fine how I am getting help now..I 'm overwhelmed [15:33:53] OrenDsk, if i'm right then it's a nice demonstration of quirks 1 and 2. [15:34:43] http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/IG/ert/iso639.htm [15:34:45] nischayn22: There are probably other PHP-related or other Wikimedia channels that include people chatting during the Indian daytime: check https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC/Channels for Wikimedia-related ones [15:35:01] OrenDsk are you looking to mentor [15:35:03] ? [15:35:29] I'm a little busy [15:35:35] sumanah: also I was wandering and found this reopened bug https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15484 today..have a look and tell me if I can work on it.. [15:35:44] sorry, ttyl [15:35:59] I could but we'd probably want a backup mentor [15:36:05] nischayn22: I am a little disappointed that you are phrasing it as "tell me if I can work on it". This is open source! You are empowered to choose anything you want to try to work on! [15:36:21] Is your real question, perhaps, whether it is a good idea for you to try it? [15:36:53] sumanah: yes that's what I meant..if its a good one for "me" [15:36:57] qballer: I coding something kind of impossible -- so I dont 100% follow this now [15:37:25] impossible ? what? [15:37:32] 14(INVALID) Sitenotice doesn't get updated on locked wikis after it is edited - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34509 +comment (10Alexandre Emsenhuber [IAlex]) [15:37:54] qballer: his brain is concentrating on some particularly tricky bit of coding, I gther. [15:37:56] gather* [15:38:03] nischayn22: Looking. [15:38:05] well - I'm trying to make maven build lexical artifact [15:38:07] and it's ok feel free to drift off like you were a regular in the channel and I'm not :) [15:38:08] well - I'm trying to make maven build lexical artifacts [15:38:45] but the artifacts have dependencies [15:38:56] nischayn22: so, my first question is: tell me why you are interested in this, in particular. And my second is: have you successfully written any patches for any of the Bugzilla issues that are marked "easy"? [15:39:20] they depend on a wiki dump version and on each other too [15:39:59] qballer: are you familier with Lucene ? [15:40:01] they are all strongly coupled? [15:40:48] Not really, but apache projects are always nice. [15:40:52] sumanah: I had myself this same problem ..I was asked to log in to edit and then it just gave me a page saying "you have logged in"..so I thought of an enhancement and searched it over bugzilla ..seeing its already there [15:41:43] 03(mod) Rollover on increase number of bytes in the watchlist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34496 +comment (10Alexandre Emsenhuber [IAlex]) [15:41:49] I'm more in to hadoop/http-client/tomcat etc. [15:41:51] no patches till now..waiting for aharoni's help for solving another bug [15:41:54] qballer: have you tried writing a bot ? [15:42:27] a web crawler, I've toyed with the idea. [15:42:52] nischayn22: I recommend that you bookmark https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15484 and then come back to it once you have written a few patches for smaller bugs or enhancements, ones that have the "easy" keyword. [15:43:16] nischayn22: This may sound obvious, but you should start by doing easy things before you try to do harder things. [15:43:34] sumanah: cool.. [15:45:38] I just now finished building a small stressing Utlity for QA in my company. [15:46:25] It interfaces with a legacy server via http [15:47:07] qballer: I have a project Idea which involved running some semantic/lexical/custom algorithems on all wikipedia articles, then using this info to help with improving article quality [15:47:32] nischayn22: $features is an array of information about different features of the WikiEditor extension. [15:47:52] do you want to incorporate data mining in to it? [15:47:59] ok.. [15:48:00] search for "features" in the same file and you'll find a function called isEnabled [15:48:21] OrenDsk do you want to incorporate data mining in to it? [15:48:25] qballer: sure [15:48:42] sure because i just suggested ? [15:48:45] I was thinking Mahut+Haddop [15:49:03] this feature probably doesn't need a preference at all and should always be enabled. i didn't dive into that code too deeply, but it is probably around that function. [15:49:13] hadoop looks like a very cool project [15:49:21] OrenDsk - Mahut? is that Hebrew? :) [15:49:36] I thought it was but I'm not sure [15:49:54] it reffers to an elephant so I think it's indic [15:50:12] but its apache's machine learning suite [15:50:17] so it could be [15:50:20] It's an elephant pat of the main author son :) [15:50:33] pet* [15:50:44] hadoop is the elephant... now what is Mahut? it could be a nice name for a machine learning system. [15:50:45] right - a serepindious event [15:51:33] have would like to improve artical ranking by that ? [15:52:01] not ranking quality [15:53:06] based on the analysis I'd rather not go into it now - I'd like to be able to generate a que of advice on how to improve the article. [15:53:20] que -> queue [15:54:41] and than incorporate it in to the page? [15:54:52] this "Coaching" advice would be offered to users [15:54:58] yes [15:55:14] but I was also thinking of a more interactive coaching model [15:55:29] like? [15:55:38] so there would be a bunch og special pages - [15:55:48] FireFox add on? [15:56:04] no probably comment based [15:56:46] sounds like a good self contained project idea, but it's your idea :) [15:56:51] 03(NEW) Removal of spaces (editing tests, in fact) performed by vandals do not show up - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34709 enhancement; Huggle: Application; (1994constant) [15:56:58] yep [15:57:21] GSoC requires it will be my idea, I think [15:57:27] biab [15:57:32] and in this case, any other student idea :) [15:57:52] regarding the analysis - it would be consumable for ranking by the SearchEngine [15:58:08] back [15:58:16] actually, it's ok for you 2 to collaborate on the proposal [15:58:18] qballer: I think that we can give you a project [15:58:23] qballer, it's Firefox, not FireFox... ;) ( btw, i made this: http://aharoni.wordpress.com/2012/02/10/the-mozilla-firefox-hummus/ ) [15:58:28] please read the guide [15:58:32] http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCStudentGuide/ [15:58:38] I am on the phone [15:58:41] but I need to correct this [15:58:46] OrenDsk: i read the codes list to which you pointed. [15:58:52] http://www.google-melange.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2012/faqs [15:58:58] 03(NEW) Removal of spaces (editing tests, in fact) performed by vandals do not show up - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34710 enhancement; MediaWiki: History/Diffs; (1994constant) [15:59:04] as i though, chi, zho and zh are three codes for the same language. [15:59:14] 03ialex * 10/ (5 files in 5 dirs): * (bug 34246) Display MediaWiki:Whatlinkshere-summary again in Special:Whatlinkshere [15:59:15] the history of ISO 639, as of many standards, is a bit weird. [15:59:23] ok, I need to go, my mom is on the phone, but OrenDsk qballer please feel free to collaborate on the proposal as long as it's not just OrenDsk as the main author or idea-maker [15:59:26] I know there are different cinese vairent [15:59:27] I know it's Firefox. just a bad habbit because of how I write code. [15:59:36] qballer :) [15:59:49] OrenDsk, these are not variants. it's the same language. [15:59:55] ok thanks [16:00:04] but the code changed over time for weird reasons. [16:00:28] 03ialex * 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialWhatlinkshere.php: Forgot to commit this file in r112396 [16:00:29] aharoni: I'm ok for now regarding the codes [16:00:46] aharoni: I'll consult again if I run into problems [16:01:09] for Wikimedia you must support zh; for fuller ISO 639 support, you should also support zho; for backwards compatibility you should support chi. (and there's probably some library that does it all for you.) [16:01:17] 03(FIXED) Special:Whatlinkshere does not show its summary message - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34246 +comment (10Alexandre Emsenhuber [IAlex]) [16:01:22] aharoni: I have another issue I'd like to discss [16:02:30] I'd like to build a text -> IPA for different language [16:02:55] kind of an TTS back end [16:03:46] this should then allow to do phonemic indexing in a way the is searchable in a language independnet way [16:04:17] aharoni: have you done something similar ? [16:05:24] TTS, IPA? [16:05:26] qballer: I have servral more GSOC ideas - I'll guess I better write them up real quick. [16:05:46] text to speach -> International Phonetic Alphabet [16:06:06] spaech -> speech [16:07:20] OrenDsk - i did something like this for Hebrew and it's insanely hard. [16:07:38] practically impossible to get completely right. [16:08:02] (i can get into details, if you want) [16:08:10] but for many other languages it would be easier. [16:08:24] it should match AL Quaida with אל-קאעידה [16:08:39] I agree that hebrew and english are two of the hardest [16:09:28] btw hebrew Ó nikud should be real easz too [16:09:42] English is hard, but you can find free databases of pronunciation - they won't be complete, but they will be big. [16:09:46] dmmn hungarian [16:10:11] hebrew with nikud would be easy, if you could find a lot of hebrew with nikud... unfortunately, there isn't. [16:10:17] the same goes for Arabic. [16:10:27] hungarian will probably be very easy [16:10:36] as will Italian. [16:10:43] hungarian has it own issues [16:11:00] (i once wrote a transliteration program Italian -> Hebrew. in Perl. mostly for fun.) [16:11:02] its a phonemic script but it need preprocessing [16:11:21] di graphs, tri graphs [16:11:52] https://github.com/amire80/ita2heb [16:12:01] you can make it output IPA. [16:12:24] but you can probably find other open source libraries that process italian. [16:12:41] it's quite obvious, but you can look at screen readers for the blind. [16:12:43] I think it would be possible to make a corpus based on interwiki + wiktionaly date [16:12:54] obvious for you [16:13:14] are screen readers phonetic? [16:13:33] you mean TTS technology ? [16:13:56] screen readers take written text, convert it to some phonetic representation and then convert it to audio. [16:14:13] I thought you ment the touch based hardware [16:14:45] touch based hardware just converts converts unicode chars to braille, it's relatively simple. [16:15:06] my thinking is to try to combine data and rule based aproches [16:15:22] oh yes, it would be wonderful. [16:15:37] that's why you are at the #omegawiki channel? :) [16:15:48] write a couple of impllimentations and get people to contribute thier langauge + special channel [16:16:16] actually another facet of the same project [16:16:34] write a couple of impllimentations and get people to contribute thier langauge + special cases [16:16:57] i.e. also to have an override file [16:17:18] e.g. old hungarian names are not phonemic [16:18:41] * OrenDsk is not a big fan of Omegawiki [16:23:59] The unit test failures for IE on testswarm are randomly passing based on whether the client has the window focussed or not. [16:24:21] ha, krinkle! [16:24:25] jquery is suffering from the same issue in their swarm, some people have (obviously) multiple browsers open [16:24:51] I just opened up a browserstack VM and made kept focus on one and that one is passing fine [16:24:57] I expect the same for other IE versions [16:24:58] brb [16:25:31] windows and/or IE can't do text selection via javascript in a window that isn't in the foreground [16:27:40] Hi Danny_B|backup [16:27:47] that's ugly bug [16:28:07] Danny_B|backup: have you had time to look at the .wikitable style issue on mediawiki.org? [16:28:16] the override with blue headings isn't there anymore [16:28:28] I haven't checked it out yet but I heard someone say it and thought you'd know [16:28:37] nope, i notice you hilited me, but then i lost the backlog so i didn't know what it was about [16:28:48] k [16:29:12] 03jeroendedauw * 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/languages/SMW_Messages.php: Follow up to r31457; message docs [16:29:32] wikitable actually should be styled only via the core way, there should be no local override, but additional class if necessary [16:29:49] Danny_B|backup: hi [16:29:57] Danny_B|backup: well, up until roughly 1.17 there's been 0% documentation on anything front-end related [16:29:57] besides blue header isn't smart idea, because there are links there often -> it's against accessibility [16:30:02] I know [16:30:03] aharoni: shalom! [16:30:20] I'm actually quite fine with having it fail, or rather, being removed from mw.org [16:30:33] but I will mark the change as "(BREAKING CHANGE)" in release-notes [16:30:47] New code comment: Jeroen De Dauw; > Please add message documentation for the newly added messages. Thanks. \ follow up \ > As far as I ; [16:30:48] other wikis might have more elaborate override that would now partially fail, and that's never good [16:31:00] OrenDsk, OmegaWiki is very, very far from perfect, but i'm not familiar with anything that has similar functionality and actually works. [16:35:21] 03nikerabbit * 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/SMW_Setup.php: Whitespace consistency [16:36:19] aharoni: I agree but I would do it quite different [16:36:46] 03krinkle * 10/trunk/phase3/RELEASE-NOTES-1.19: release-notes 1.19: Mark .wikitable change as BREAKING-CHANGES [16:46:21] 03(mod) Removal of spaces (editing tests, in fact) performed by vandals do not show up - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34709 +comment (10sam) [16:46:21] 14(DUP) Removal of spaces (editing tests, in fact) performed by vandals do not show up - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34710 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [16:46:39] 03(mod) Enchant Suggestion mode does not work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34707 summary (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [16:48:12] 14(INVALID) MediaWiki 1.19 without annoucement ! - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34704 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [16:49:51] 03(mod) Left alligned images should come alongside text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34686 +comment (10srik.lak) [16:50:30] 03(ASSIGNED) "Check Availability" feature for usernames at registration interface - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34447 +comment (10Akshay Agarwal) [16:50:32] 03(mod) Left alligned images should come alongside text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34686 +patch (10Srikanth Logic) [17:00:20] 03(mod) Can't authenticate using my mother language username (UNICODE) when I only have (a public) access to Wikipedia with an ASCII (english) keyboard - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34590 +comment (10nicolas.brouard) [17:03:27] arahoni: I figured out how to do it..and have also edited some code :) [17:04:00] aharoni: ^sorry :P [17:11:27] 03(mod) Removal of spaces (editing tests, in fact) performed by vandals do not show up - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34710 +comment (10Michael Movchin) [17:11:27] 03(mod) Removal of spaces (editing tests, in fact) performed by vandals do not show up - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34709 +comment (10michael) [17:11:35] 03(mod) Use seperate log_action for patrol action of autopatrolled edits - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/25799 +comment (10Krinkle) [17:14:34] 03(mod) Test Bug - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34614 04CRIT->normal (10Michael Movchin) [17:16:18] nischayn22: oh hi [17:16:19] cool [17:18:22] 03siebrand * 10/trunk/translatewiki/MediaWiki/mediawiki-defines.txt: Follow-up r111791: Fix file name for messages. [17:18:51] aharoni: There is a file WikiEditor.php where I have set that option to global and in the hooks.php file I have removed the preferences variables..is that fine? [17:18:51] and how do I submit my code? [17:19:58] 03robin * 10/trunk/extensions/Babel/Babel.class.php: [17:19:58] (Bug 34680) Make babel extension case aware in order to avoid clashes with existing user templates. [17:19:58] This gives precedence to existing templates when the code contains one or more uppercase letters (e.g. TeX). For lowercase codes, it still gives precedence to built-in boxes (introduced in r105540). [17:21:23] 03(FIXED) Make babel extension case aware in order to avoid clashes with existing user templates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34680 +comment (10Robin Pepermans (SPQRobin)) [17:24:34] nischayn22: possible, i'll have to look at it. [17:25:00] 03siebrand * 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/specials/ (SpecialLanguageStats.php SpecialMessageGroupStats.php): Write some output to error log in case a message group has 0 messages. Makes mistakes like that from r111791 a bit easier to identify. [17:26:02] can you send me a patch? see here: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_become_a_MediaWiki_hacker [17:26:12] nischayn22: Did you modify extensions/WikiEditor/WikiEditor.php ? [17:26:19] Better override it in LocalSettings.php [17:26:39] nischayn22: you should read all of that page, but the parts that interests you the most is "Submit your changes" [17:26:42] $wgWikiEditorFeatures['foo']['global'] = true/false; [17:27:16] krinkle, nischayn22 is trying to resolve https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30796 [17:27:29] aha [17:27:30] nice! [17:27:41] yes i modified it Krinkle [17:28:55] that's fine if you're working on it with the plan to commit it :P [17:28:59] and also wikiEditor.hooks.php [17:29:34] I was under the impression you were encountering a bug on an actual wiki and wanting to disable it for your install only. [17:29:46] aharoni: yes ..in few minutes [17:31:10] Reedy: Can you check if the example extensions are installed in the Jenkins build? [17:31:17] New code comment: Siebrand; Will be fixed in next toolserver L10n export from translatewiki.net. Fixed in https://translatewiki.; [17:31:24] would be a good idea I think, to make sure they are kept up 2 date as well [17:31:26] Krinkle: trying to solve my first bug [17:31:32] nischayn22: Awesome! [17:33:47] New code comment: Krinkle; Aren't these normally prevented to be exported though? I guess/hope they are. \ Although that detecti; [17:34:48] New code comment: Krinkle; btw, setting back to fixme to avoid accidental deployment. It's still in subversion :); [17:35:45] Krinkle: very few extensions are from meomr [17:37:42] yeah, only major ones for wmf iirc, but do you think it's OK to have the ./examples directory checked out as well and installed by default in the Jenkins build (not sure if it has phpunit tests yet, but it would at least be included in the Lint-build and catch deprecation warnings in the normal build) [17:38:26] 03siebrand * 10/trunk/tools/ToolserverI18N/language/messages/Wlm.i18n.php: Fix issue in r110711 [17:38:36] Isn't everything linted? [17:39:26] no? [17:40:11] https://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/MediaWiki-lint/ [17:40:13] Yes, [17:40:45] nischayn22: you can attach the patch to the bug report. [17:42:58] 03krinkle * 10/trunk/tools/ToolserverI18N/scripts/tsIntUpdate: [17:42:58] [TsIntuition] Commit tsIntUpdate bash script [17:42:58] - Not very pretty right now, but we've been using it for the toolserver for a while, better keep it in subversion in case we need it elsewhere [17:51:33] 03(mod) Enable Narayam/WebFonts for am.* - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34700 +shell (10Mark A. Hershberger) [17:56:05] 14(WFM) ar.wikinews.org isn't in SUL? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34701 +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger) [17:58:20] 03jeroendedauw * 10/trunk/extensions/EducationProgram/maintenance/importWEPData.php: also put an entry in the rev table [17:59:52] 03(mod) Use localised parentheses in Special:Contributions, RecentChanges and ShortPages (and possibly others) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34702 +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger) [18:00:54] 03(mod) Use localised parentheses in Special:Contributions, RecentChanges and ShortPages (and possibly others) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34702 +i18n (10Mark A. Hershberger) [18:01:24] 03(mod) Unable to change file extension while uploading file - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34703 (10Mark A. Hershberger) [18:02:11] 03(mod) CentralAuth local account created without email - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34705 (10Mark A. Hershberger) [18:04:17] 03(mod) Side-by-side functionality broken in Chrome and possibly some Internet Explorer - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34706 (10Mark A. Hershberger) [18:06:55] 03(mod) Enchant Suggestion mode does not work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34707 (10Mark A. Hershberger) [18:08:06] 03(mod) "Enable dialogs for inserting links, tables and more" preference is confusing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30796 +comment (10nischayn22) [18:09:01] aharoni: I have uploaded the patch [18:13:09] srikanthlogic: hi [18:13:24] nischayn22: hi [18:13:47] did you participate in gsoc last year? [18:14:37] nischayn22: I was student some years back, never knew gsoc existed back then [18:15:47] srikanthlogic: where you from? [18:16:08] nischayn22: hyderabad [18:16:08] India right?? [18:17:56] 03(mod) In some Help sections of WikiEditor, the ‘What you get’ column shows raw HTML instead of rendered text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34708 +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger) [18:23:47] New code comment: Siebrand; No, not if it's not exactly !!FUZZY!!. Yes.; [18:23:54] 03(mod) with debug=true, callback gets executed multiple times by mw.loader.using() - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34696 +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger) [18:24:41] 03(mod) Javascript errors in firebug and page flash on commons when debug=true - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34664 +comment (10mah) [18:26:07] 03(mod) Use localised parentheses in Special:Contributions, RecentChanges and ShortPages (and possibly others) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34702 +comment (10s.mazeland) [18:38:20] !seen krinkls [18:38:21] nischayn22, I don't remember seeing krinkls. [18:38:24] !seen krinkle [18:38:25] Krinkle (~Krinkle@wikimedia/Krinkle) was last seen quitting from #mediawiki 47 minutes ago stating (Quit: Too bad a day only lasts 24 hours. See you on another one!). [18:47:21] hello? [18:47:29] Is this the chat where I ask for help? [18:49:18] I guess not. [18:51:49] heh [18:52:47] :/ [18:57:18] Tasmania: yes it is [18:57:29] 03(mod) Oversighting an account globally does not remove it from public lists ! - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34539 +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger) [18:59:33] 03(mod) purging thumbnails via MW action did not purge all thumbnails - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34697 (10Mark A. Hershberger) [18:59:59] 03(mod) yesterday/today/tomorrow in timel does not respect (local) timezone - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34699 (10Mark A. Hershberger) [19:00:05] 03(mod) In some Help sections of WikiEditor, the ‘What you get’ column shows raw HTML instead of rendered text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34708 (10Mark A. Hershberger) [19:00:21] 03(mod) In some Help sections of WikiEditor, the ‘What you get’ column shows raw HTML instead of rendered text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34708 (10Mark A. Hershberger) [19:09:28] 14(WFM) Javascript errors in firebug and page flash on commons when debug=true - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34664 +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger) [19:10:12] 03(mod) with debug=true, callback gets executed multiple times by mw.loader.using() - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34696 (10Mark A. Hershberger) [19:26:24] 03(mod) Check uploaded images with Google image search to find copyvios - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29793 +comment (10Carl Austin Bennett) [19:27:17] 03(NEW) Route diagrams are rendered incorrectly on mobile site - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34711 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend; (jrobson) [19:40:35] 03jeroendedauw * 10/trunk/extensions/EducationProgram/ (4 files in 2 dirs): fixed error when viewing old rev and some cleanup [19:46:42] 03(NEW) Image pages show "Redirected from" twice - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34712 normal; MediaWiki: User interface; (hartman) [19:46:44] 03(mod) Milestone: MediaWiki 1.19 (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29097 (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [19:47:23] Templates in edit summaries are expanded in e-mail notifications? wtf [19:47:59] I'm trying to figure out if that's a security issue. Would any e-mail client switch from plaintext to html like that... [19:48:18] Or you could maybe fuck with the headers... [19:48:47] ;) It would probably have to be a Microsoft product [19:49:11] Any good reason that the templates are expanded? [19:49:15] It seems to be a bug. [19:57:13] !seen sumanah [19:57:13] sumanah (~sumanah@mediawiki/sumanah) was last seen quitting from #mediawiki 3 hours, 29 minutes ago stating (Quit: Leaving). [19:58:34] That's kind of annoying. [19:58:59] If they're not available right now, it doesn't really matter when they were last seen. [20:00:11] he folks [20:01:24] nischayn22: i'm back, i see the patch. [20:01:28] i'll test it very soon. [20:01:33] Dantman: Well, at least Entourage doesn't seem to get confused by the double headers. [20:01:55] I wouldn't really expect anything to get confused about double headers. [20:01:57] aharoni: thanks..do you know jereon de dauw?? [20:02:14] whats his irc nick? [20:02:18] Dantman: You know mailman truncates e-mails where the line starts with From? [20:02:23] Like the mailman that Wikimedia uses. [20:02:48] I could see some them using the last Subejct: instead of the first. [20:02:55] Subject: [20:02:57] I'd expect something more like one of Microsoft's e-mail products acting line IE6 and automatically switching to HTML when it sees something that looks like html near the start of the message. [20:03:11] hmm, don't remember. maybe just "jeroen"? [20:03:12] Well, you could insert fairly easily, I think. [20:03:41] !seen jeroen [20:03:41] nischayn22, I don't remember seeing jeroen. [20:03:56] Can I quiet that bot or does it do something useful? [20:04:37] Dantman: It's not escaping the content at all. [20:04:38] 03(mod) Semantic Result Formats RSS does not validate against W3C - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32814 +comment (10david) [20:04:40] > [20:04:41] The Wikipedia page "User talk:MZMcBride" has been changed on [20:04:42] 25 February 2012 by 7&6=thirteen, with the edit summary: class="plainlinks ombox [20:04:42] ombox-notice " style="margin-left: 0; margin-right: 0; border:1px solid [20:04:44] 03(mod) Add support for KML/KMZ filetype - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/26059 +comment (10hartman) [20:04:44] #ffc9c9; background-color: #fffff3;"> [20:04:46] > [20:04:50] So you could easily get in there. [20:05:02] How could you really even escape plaintext? [20:05:02] But it'd have to be a fairly stupid e-mail client... [20:05:10] Heh. [20:05:13] Joan: ;) You DO remember IE6, rigt? [20:05:18] Right?! [20:05:20] Yes. [20:05:24] But it's not an e-mail client! [20:05:30] Send text/plain and poof. [20:05:30] Also, remember? It didn't die. [20:05:47] It's still supported by major software programs like MediaWiki! [20:05:53] Joan: And it's the same engine that most of Microsoft's e-mail products are based on. [20:06:03] aharoni: need some help with 34319 [20:06:08] !b 34319 [20:06:25] Heh, that's what you get for being lazy. [20:06:28] Try a real link. [20:07:04] got it already [20:07:17] aharoni: is there something like msg cache or something ? [20:07:18] Dantman: I dunno. This template expansion feels wrong. I'm not sure if it's a security issue, but it doesn't feel good. [20:07:39] ;) Well sure, of course. [20:07:54] I did add output header + summary message, but am not getting to see the summary on the page [20:10:23] 03(NEW) Logs have an inconsistent number of uploads - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34713 normal; MediaWiki: Images and files; (mah) [20:11:52] 03(mod) Logs have an inconsistent number of uploads - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34713 +comment (10mah) [20:12:28] hmm, seems we have quite a few tiff images that don't render, nor do they give errors.... [20:12:31] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:FRED_R._MOORE_-_HUMANITARIAN,_EDITOR,_LEADER,_1857-1943_-_NARA_-_535620.tif [20:12:51] 03(mod) Logs have an inconsistent number of uploads - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34713 (10Mark A. Hershberger) [20:13:11] thedj: Did TIFFs ever give an error? [20:13:30] I know some can't produce thumbnails, but I've only seen errors with JPGs. [20:13:41] Because of the 12.5MP limit or whatever. [20:13:54] Or I think I've seen ImageMagick run out of memory and produce an error as well. [20:14:13] 03(mod) Logs corrupt or have big delays - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34653 +comment (10mah) [20:14:56] tiff has it's own handler [20:15:17] i'm not sure if it used to have textual errors, but it sure doesn't have them now. [20:18:59] 03(NEW) Templates used in edit summaries are expanded in e-mail notifications - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34714 normal; MediaWiki: Email; (b) [20:19:10] Dantman: ^ [20:19:29] thedj: If you add them, people just want them localized. ;-) [20:19:44] You could load a gif of a broken image instead, heh. [20:19:49] That's recognizable, at least. [20:20:45] 03(mod) MediaWiki 1.19 without annoucement ! - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34704 +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger) [20:22:16] 03(mod) upload protection and edit protection should be one-step process - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34209 +comment (10saibotrash) [20:25:26] srikanthlogic: i'll look at it Real Soon, doing twenty things at once now... [20:26:54] 03(mod) Install the "Quiz" extension on de.wikibooks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34694 +shell (10Mark A. Hershberger) [20:28:57] 03(mod) Route diagrams are rendered incorrectly on mobile site - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34711 (10Mark A. Hershberger) [20:29:48] 03(mod) Add support for KML/KMZ filetype - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/26059 +comment (10xen.project) [20:29:56] 03(mod) Image pages show "Redirected from" twice - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34712 (10Mark A. Hershberger) [20:30:41] 03hartman * 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ImagePage.php: [20:30:41] Fixes bug 34715 Image redirects show the "redirected from" subtitle twice. [20:30:41] ImagePage no longer needs to set the "redirectedfrom" header by itself. Seems Article.php is taking care of it now. I suspect this was caused by the refactoring of WikiPage, Article, etc. [20:31:10] 03(mod) Image pages show "Redirected from" twice - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34712 +comment (10hartman) [20:31:17] 03(FIXED) Image pages show "Redirected from" twice - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34712 (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [20:36:27] 03raymond * 10/trunk/ (57 files in 38 dirs): Localisation updates for core and extension messages from translatewiki.net [20:37:51] 03(mod) Add support for KML/KMZ filetype - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/26059 +comment (10hartman) [20:38:05] 03(mod) Image pages show "Redirected from" twice - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34712 +comment (10mah) [20:38:29] If a page is called "Page Name", how do you get the first word "Page" with parser functions, i.e. split by whitespace? [20:39:17] You need StringFUnctions for that. [20:39:35] There's a variable in the ParserFunctions extension to enable them. [20:39:48] $wgUseStringFuncdtions or something. [20:39:52] I can't type. :-9 [20:39:54] :-( [20:40:19] 03(mod) Templates used in edit summaries are expanded in e-mail notifications - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34714 (10Mark A. Hershberger) [20:40:22] 03(mod) Image pages show "Redirected from" twice - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34712 +comment (10hartman) [20:42:18] 03siebrand * 10/trunk/phase3/ (4 files in 3 dirs): (bug 34702) Use localised parentheses in Special:Contributions. [20:43:23] 03(FIXED) [Regression] IRC string output for log messages no longer compatible - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34508 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [20:44:27] 03raymond * 10/trunk/tools/ToolserverI18N/language/messages/ (14 files): Localisation updates for Toolserver i18n messages from translatewiki.net [20:53:56] 03siebrand * 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Linker.php: Follow-up r112410: (bug 34702) Use localised parentheses for comment, too. [20:56:04] 03(mod) Use localised parentheses in Special:Contributions, RecentChanges and ShortPages (and possibly others) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34702 +comment (10s.mazeland) [20:56:30] 03(mod) with debug=true, callback gets executed multiple times by mw.loader.using() - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34696 +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger) [20:58:14] 03(NEW) Please modify the import sources for the Spanish Wikiversity - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34715 normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (maurelio) [21:02:02] New code comment: Nikerabbit; If you are not calling ->escaped() or similar, wfMessage uses the default output format for string c; [21:09:53] 03(NEW) Use ResourceLoader/mw.config for jsReviewNeedsChange - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34716 normal; MediaWiki extensions: FlaggedRevs; (duplicatebug) [21:11:07] 03siebrand * 10/trunk/translatewiki/Shapado/Shapado.yaml: Update paths. [21:11:51] 03(mod) Use ResourceLoader/mw.config for jsReviewNeedsChange - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34716 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [21:12:05] 03(mod) Use ResourceLoader/mw.config for jsReviewNeedsChange - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34716 normal->15enhancement (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [21:12:59] 03siebrand * 10/trunk/translatewiki/Shapado/Shapado.yaml: Fix incorrect paths in r112413. [21:22:07] [21:22:15] hi Amgine [21:22:39] I have the host in irc if you want to connect with them. [21:22:51] 03hashar * 10/trunk/phase3/tests/phpunit/includes/RecentChange.php: basic tests for bug 34508 [21:23:27] 03(mod) [Regression] IRC string output for log messages no longer compatible - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34508 +comment (10hashar) [21:29:09] Project MediaWiki-postgres-phpunit build #2394: FAILURE in 2 min 49 sec: https://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/MediaWiki-postgres-phpunit/2394/ [21:29:46] Project MediaWiki-sqlite-phpunit build #7946: FAILURE in 3 min 25 sec: https://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/MediaWiki-sqlite-phpunit/7946/ [21:35:22] *facepalm* [21:35:34] Rack goes ahead and uses XFF insecurely [21:39:57] 03hashar * 10/trunk/phase3/tests/phpunit/includes/ (RecentChange.php RecentChangeTest.php): rename test file to end with Test.php :D [21:40:31] 03(NEW) bad performance: reverting file versions takes ages for the browser to "come back" (show the success message) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34717 normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (saibotrash) [21:44:09] Yippie, build fixed! [21:44:10] Project MediaWiki-postgres-phpunit build #2395: FIXED in 2 min 50 sec: https://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/MediaWiki-postgres-phpunit/2395/ [21:44:39] Yippie, build fixed! [21:44:39] Project MediaWiki-sqlite-phpunit build #7947: FIXED in 3 min 19 sec: https://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/MediaWiki-sqlite-phpunit/7947/ [21:44:59] \o/ [21:48:41] but tell us how you really feel? [21:52:10] 03(mod) Add support for KML/KMZ filetype - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/26059 +comment (10Richard Guk) [21:57:08] * varnent has a growing passionate dislike of Flash's abuse of my system's resource.. [21:58:23] Reedy: ping [21:59:59] 03(mod) Use ResourceLoader/mw.config for jsReviewNeedsChange - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34716 (10duplicatebug) [22:00:30] varnent: hai [22:00:55] Reedy: you get a chance to look over MS's notes on XML file for their web gallery? [22:01:39] nope... [22:01:44] I might get round to it tomorrow [22:01:53] Can we log a TODO bug for this also? [22:02:04] Deployments have been busy this week! [22:02:04] good call [22:02:18] no problem - I expected as much - figured I'd check just in case :) [22:02:33] ty :) [22:03:15] I'd done my usual alloted hours before Friday... [22:05:02] :( [22:05:14] how is it going after the initial bumps? [22:06:31] Alright, slowly getting the loose ends tied up! [22:06:41] and finding other TODOs for later [22:07:20] always more work to be done - lol - that's the problem - the more work you do..the more work it generates :) [22:09:02] Go and visit arwikinews [22:09:09] You get a javascript alert in french :D [22:09:36] ha! awesome [22:09:55] they'll be thrilled I'm sure [22:09:55] 03(NEW) Images not rendered correctly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34718 major; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (andre) [22:10:10] * varnent glad I only have to deal with en versions for now [22:13:59] 03(mod) Images not rendered correctly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34718 +comment (10Saibo) [22:14:18] 03(mod) bad performance: reverting file versions takes ages for the browser to "come back" (show the success message) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34717 +code-update-regression; +comment (10Platonides) [22:24:02] New code comment: Siebrand; Argh. I made that mistake before, indeed. So instead of for example: \ wfMessage( 'parentheses'; [22:26:32] New code comment: Siebrand; If you insist, but I think this has been broken for years already, so I doubt anyone would be confus; [22:43:16] on tt.wiki yünältü doesnt appear to be a redirect flag word [22:43:21] am I missing something? [22:43:39] I am looking at http://tt.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9C%D0%B0%D1%85%D1%81%D1%83%D1%81:%D0%98%D0%BA%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%B5_%D0%BA%D2%AF%D1%87%D0%B5%D1%88 which marks them as redirects [22:43:39] D1 Making sure everyone knows how cool I am - http://phabricator.wmflabs.org/D1 [22:43:39] D2 Making sure everyone knows how cool I am - http://phabricator.wmflabs.org/D2 [22:52:13] 03(NEW) Video "mid" thumbnail (shown on the file page and in thumbs without thumbtime param) is in a different orientation than all other thumbnails - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34719 minor; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (saibotrash) [23:06:26] 03(NEW) XML installation file and zip deployment solution for Microsoft Web Gallery inclusion - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34720 trivial; MediaWiki: Installation; (admin) [23:07:19] 03(mod) XML installation file and zip deployment solution for Microsoft Web Gallery inclusion - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34720 (10varnent) [23:12:21] ^_^ The new standard for Lighttpd short url config: [23:12:23] url.rewrite-once = ( [23:12:23] "^/wiki/" => "/index.php" [23:12:23] ) [23:13:38] *facepalm* IP restrictions. [23:13:54] Dantman: nice work on the short url tool btw [23:14:17] !help [23:14:23] anyone here? [23:14:45] !ask | Giorgios [23:15:07] !ask | How do I delete usergroups? [23:15:13] Giorgios: Basically, don't bother asking if anyone is here, just ask and when someone is around they will answer [23:15:21] bot needs cpr... [23:15:28] Giorgios: just remove the config for them from localsettings.php [23:15:32] Evening all. Anyone up to giving me a bit of help? I've noticed that on WP and personal mediawiki installs, if you use the english name of a special page on a non english wiki, it takes you to their equivalent. It doesn't work the other way round though. Any ideas why? [23:15:37] how [23:16:09] I set all permissions for administrator group to false [23:16:11] BarkingFish: Because we have to load the languages to do that I believe [23:16:15] * Dantman should write a better ip address whitelisting system for his work servers [23:16:21] or how do i rename the default admin group [23:16:57] p858snake|l: That's annoying. Surely if the English list goes everywhere else, they should be interchangeable for those who don't speak English when they use another wiki. [23:17:35] 03(mod) Please modify the import sources for the Spanish Wikiversity - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34715 (10Mark A. Hershberger) [23:17:48] hmm [23:18:03] BarkingFish: I believe english is so that tools and bot frameworks can always have something that will available (since that is what most people use) [23:18:32] Giorgios, you can use unset() [23:18:43] so give me an example of thisd [23:18:58] $wgGroupPermissions['administrator]['markbotedits'] = true; [23:19:02] Giorgios, having issues fetching webpages [23:19:08] Ah, good.. the variable name [23:19:14] 03(mod) bad performance: reverting file versions takes ages for the browser to "come back" (show the success message) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34717 (10Mark A. Hershberger) [23:19:23] unset( $wgGroupPermissions['sysop'] ); [23:19:29] p858snake|l: There will always be people who don't speak English... maybe on personal installs, it should be a configurable option that other language Special Pages should interchange. [23:19:43] If you want to create a new group with the same permissions, you can use this before doing the unset [23:19:45] You know, something they can switch on if they don't have a large number of English speakers [23:20:00] $wgGroupPermissions['newgroup'] = $wgGroupPermissions['sysop']; [23:20:19] how do i remove the admin group from view though [23:22:29] Giorgios, why on earth would you want to do that? [23:22:36] Because [23:22:48] The teacher usergroup is the admin grou [23:22:50] with a different name [23:22:52] group* [23:23:03] So just leave an empty admin group. [23:24:05] Thanks [23:24:09] you solved my problem! [23:24:11] :) [23:26:16] 03(mod) Images not rendered correctly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34718 +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger) [23:27:21] 03(mod) Video "mid" thumbnail (shown on the file page and in thumbs without thumbtime param) is in a different orientation than all other thumbnails - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34719 (10Mark A. Hershberger) [23:27:36] 03(mod) XML installation file and zip deployment solution for Microsoft Web Gallery inclusion - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34720 (10Mark A. Hershberger) [23:32:17] New code comment: Platonides; This wasn't reverted. Looks ok for me, but leaving at new in case Chad intended to set it to somethi; [23:36:02] New code comment: ^demon; I might've gotten it mixed with the version introduced in 1.19 and backed out again, apologies.; [23:46:41] Any lighty users? [23:54:21] 03(mod) Images not rendered correctly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34718 +comment (10mah) [23:54:43] 03(mod) Images not rendered correctly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34718 (10Mark A. Hershberger)