[00:04:55] 04(REOPENED) Image pages show "Redirected from" twice - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34712 +comment (10Saibo) [00:16:27] 03(mod) Side-by-side functionality broken in Chrome and possibly some Internet Explorer - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34706 +comment (10Roan Kattouw) [00:28:53] 03(mod) Images not rendered correctly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34718 +comment (10saibotrash) [00:34:45] 03(mod) Images not rendered correctly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34718 +comment (10saibotrash) [00:37:07] 03(mod) thumbnail generator fails with a % in file name (update image magik) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/26233 (10Saibo) [01:05:15] If I install trunk/extensions/ConfirmEdit on 1.18.x, is there any reason Asirra would not work? [01:08:42] I'm pretty sure that got backed out of it [01:10:38] hmm looks like it got readded in http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/105675 [01:11:03] I'm confused. And so am I. [01:11:50] Will probably need to grab the trunk version without looking up the branch points [01:12:09] oh wait, re-read your question, It should probably work [01:12:17] but might not, never know till you try [01:14:08] I did try, and it didn't, which was why I was hoping it was something clear and obviously not my fault. Which it probably isn't. Alas. [01:15:09] I have to give Lighttpd some props for it's configuration [01:18:19] My Apache generating code is 49 lines, My nginx generating code is 69 (though keep in mind I generate the entire nginx config), and my Lighttpd config code seams to be only 36 lines so far. [01:18:30] ^_^ And the output is always 3 lines for Lighttpd [01:18:43] Well… 4 if you count the comment [01:24:33] [01:25:12] ^_^ Hey, I get to play with Lighttpd config for the first time [01:25:30] And I get to make my beta icon a blue alpha icon [01:31:27] Isn't that a regression? [02:21:36] 03(mod) Images not rendered correctly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34718 +comment (10Ben Hartshorne) [02:27:16] hey guys.. I'm trying to get an image to show up on the mediawiki page... for some reason this isn't working ... http://pastie.org/3460217 [02:27:27] can I get an opinion on what I'm doing wrong? [02:27:51] I can never remember when you're supposed to use Image and when you're supposed to use File. [02:28:16] hmm maybe I can try substituting image... [02:28:50] nope.. that didn't do it [02:32:19] Is there a way to get MW to show the page generation time at the bottom of each page? [02:33:23] maplebed: They are the same thing [02:34:21] bluethundr_: you need to fix up the permissions on your uploads folder by the looks [02:34:22] You don't have permission to access /images/8/87/Apache_cassandra_logo.jpeg on this server. [02:35:21] p858snake|l: cool tx. I'll have a look [02:35:52] here's how it looks on the server [02:35:53] -rw-r--r-- 1 apache ftpgroup 26273 Feb 25 19:42 cassandra.jpeg [02:36:00] needs to be more open? [02:37:09] hmm guess not.. I tried opening up the perms way up and reloaded the page.. no love [02:45:42] The svn certificate seems dead. [02:46:32] http://kizmut.com/paste/?show=m7f824b9d [02:47:36] Amgine: bz it [02:48:22] work work work, that's all I do around here... [02:51:14] 03(NEW) SVN certificate validation errors - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34721 normal; Wikimedia: Subversion; (Amgine.Saewyc) [02:51:48] Of course, it makes me wonder why Equifax would not be trusted... [03:33:08] 03(mod) Mismatched input syntax for Cite error messages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/17865 +comment (10billinghurst) [03:42:50] 03(NEW) Site Login Problems Reset Password hi. i try to reset my password, for wicka media, but says cannot find StarTrekCafe but in the login system. can you send me a reset password. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34722 normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (startrekcafe) [03:59:02] 03(mod) "Enable dialogs for inserting links, tables and more" preference is confusing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30796 +need-review +patch; +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [03:59:26] 03(mod) Left alligned images should come alongside text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34686 +need-review; +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [04:00:26] [04:01:02] 03(mod) SVN certificate validation errors - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34721 +comment (10innocentkiller) [04:11:20] !b 34722 [04:11:31] Where'd the bot go? [04:12:26] TS probably was being silly [04:12:38] well, here is the link: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34722 [04:13:22] Yeah, something VERY wrong with the toolserver at the moment [05:01:54] 03(mod) wikitech.wikimedia.org SSL cert invalid & out of date - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27291 +comment (10Amgine) [05:55:08] https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Annoying_little_bugs&curid=58627&diff=503902&oldid=503578 Who did this? [06:04:09] Krenair: a vandal [06:32:11] sumanah: ping [06:32:17] hi varnent [06:32:53] got a sec to gander or bookmark something Pharos and I wrote up earlier? came out of a convo that..I can't remember right now..lol [06:33:08] varnent: probably, a moment, yes. [06:33:36] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Open_Knowledge_Network [06:34:43] "Possible conduit for mutual fundraising" is going to be a third rail, but Pharos knows that [06:34:43] oh! we were talking about the board's recent vote - that's what led to that topic [06:34:51] [06:36:02] 03(FIXED) Review and deploy Extension:FeaturedFeeds on WMF cluster - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33487 +comment (10Max Semenik) [06:36:07] Amgine: interesting idea.. [06:36:44] bad puns, never mind me. [06:37:21] all puns..er..ideas have merit: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Open_Knowledge_Network#Notes [06:42:19] varnent: I think the idea might have merit - you will want to talk to more wiki runners, like dbolser [06:42:56] sumanah: good idea - mostly wanted to get the idea in writing after we were chatting about it - may let it stew a bit [06:43:15] OK [06:43:27] Pharos also mentioned talking to SJ about it [06:47:09] sumanah: I see it melding into all the third-party wiki condos we've been having - the wikiproject handles MW side of things - thing handles non-MW things [06:47:18] *convos [06:47:28] * varnent would like some wiki condos.. [06:47:49] varnent: I'm a little dubious, but I don't really have time to talk about it right now. [06:47:56] Sorry. [06:47:57] np :) [07:09:01] * varnent just noticed HuffPo is using enWP as a metric in its election dashboard - http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/ [07:36:38] sumanah: let me know when you want to chat about the next MW workshop [07:37:40] varnent: I meant to ask - how did the RL one go? [07:37:49] 04(REOPENED) Removal of spaces (editing tests, in fact) performed by vandals do not show up - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34710 +comment (10Ankit Maity) [07:38:00] 14(DUP) Removal of spaces (editing tests, in fact) performed by vandals do not show up - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34709 +comment (10Ankit Maity) [07:38:00] 03(mod) Removal of spaces (editing tests, in fact) performed by vandals do not show up - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34710 +comment (101994constant) [07:38:09] I think it went well - putting up the transcript and what not now (little late - partner got me sick) [07:38:19] Right now I'm awake when I should not be and I am editing http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_academic_organizations_interested_in_women_in_CS to help me with my GSoC outreach. [07:38:25] varnent: my sympathies [07:38:51] sumanah: yeah..joyous timing, but eh [07:39:12] sumanah: would like to get the next one schedule by Wed. (ish) to keep momentum going [07:39:22] scheduled..not held :) [07:39:35] right :-) [07:40:07] we can chat about it on the weekday - but contemplating what would be the most relevant next topic [07:40:12] understood [07:40:33] sumanah: what time is it there? [07:40:45] 2:40a [07:41:57] varnent: ok, so, options for next topic? [07:43:24] sumanah: lingering items from past conversations (although I could probably think of 4-5 more if I put a bit of thought into it): API, MW.org documentation, ContextSource [07:43:39] Git, Wikimedia Labs also come to mind [07:44:37] varnent: hoo boy Git! [07:44:50] varnent: we have two of those coming up, as you know [07:44:54] Mon + Tues [07:45:12] I didn't. Calendar? [07:45:13] yeah - so that might be redundant [07:45:23] I emailed wikitech-l [07:45:28] * varnent meant to add the mon/tues events to the main page [07:45:33] kk [07:45:36] and mentioned via @MediaWikiMeet [07:45:44] Amgine: what would have been best for you, to find out about these events? [07:45:54] a GCal feed? a dedicated email list? [07:46:04] mw.org site notice. [07:46:05] varnent: well actually [07:46:16] except I have that on adblockplus [07:46:32] varnent: I think doing another gerrit workshop will totally be necessary [07:46:43] I'm only gonna be able to cover 20 people in my G+ stuff on Mon & Tues [07:46:48] Amgine: is this "New Opportunities" box helpful?: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki [07:46:51] Git/Gerrit/Git-review [07:47:34] varnent: that's in fly-over-land for my eyes. I rarely get below the fold. [07:47:49] sumanah: fair enough - will it be recorded? we could reference them for a more in-depth "training" and use this to facilitate a general overview and field comments, questions, etc. - which is sort of what the RL one was - one part introduction, one part tutorial, one part back-forth convo/brainstorming and one part Q&A [07:48:03] varnent: I think https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Workflow is a decent tutorial now and it would be lovely if you could lead 1 or 2 additional Varnent Workshops to help people get through it [07:48:31] Amgine: hmmm..this topic has been pondering in my mind for a few weeks now..what sparked the proposal to modify MW.org Main Page [07:48:37] sumanah: a webcal feed might be more useful for me, yes. [07:48:59] caldav [07:48:59] Amgine: totally reasonable [07:49:15] * varnent likes the caldav idea [07:49:28] which is also one of my top-wanted extensions. [07:50:02] sumanah: is it feasible to do a Google Cal that volunteers/staff could submit to or does WMF have something for this already? [07:50:04] Amgine: there's https://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=wikimedia.org_bbrlebn5uk1hp8bbb5rvmnfsds%40group.calendar.google.com&ctz=America/New_York for the bug triage meetings, I could just make another one or a superset or something [07:50:26] or just turn the Bug Triage Meetings one into a general Meetings one [07:50:26] Amgine: you could follow the rss feed for the said page :p [07:50:37] varnent: hi what are you working on? [07:50:42] in recent changes, how does mediawiki log deleted pages [07:50:54] I only see edit, log and new [07:51:01] [07:51:04] nischayn22: lots of things :) what are you talking about specifically? :) [07:51:25] I meant what extension of mediawiki [07:51:29] ok, back to editing that page to help me with my outreach. [07:51:38] * sumanah goes back to lurking unless called on [07:52:16] sumanah: either modify that GCal or make a wider focus one as well to not upset those folks :) we could possibly integrate a GCal widget or something onto the mw.org site [07:52:47] pubsez: http://wiki.occupy.net/wiki/Special:RecentChanges <- like that [07:52:51] yeah. Something. Sounds good - I'll talk to Mark about it next week [07:52:52] nischayn22: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Varnent - listed there - mostly WikiShare right now [07:52:58] varnent: nothing outside the wmf cluster should be getting loaded on mw.org [07:53:12] Amgine: yes, thanks [07:53:24] yw, pubsez. [07:53:42] p858snake|l: yeah - I wonder if we could house something on WMF servers to allow for that [07:54:46] p858snake|l: like a mini-caldav server on labs or something.. [07:56:59] you could make the extension as a special page/caldav api. [07:57:18] guillom: next time you're bored: 4http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Open_Knowledge_Network [07:57:22] (thinks it'd be not-so-smart, but possible. [07:57:43] Amgine: that's an idea..but I think the top preference would be something housed on WMF servers - for a slew of reasons [07:57:59] * varnent doesn't like housing things outside servers within control - even Google.. [07:58:11] Amgine: we would still need to proxy it at the wmf level due to the privacy policy [07:58:25] Like, do something, only that something, and do it well. [07:59:13] Sumana is going to talk with Mark - maybe a WMF cluster based idea will develop [07:59:41] Um, looks like people have expanded the idea since I last looked. [08:00:10] sumanah: eh - just contemplating - nothing really new - just how we'd go about feeding the calendar into mw.org.. [08:00:13] I was just going to talk with Mark about repurposing the existing bug triage calendar. If you want something more ambitious than that, maybe sum up your conversation in an email? I gotta go [08:00:32] sumanah: go rest! :) talk to ya monday [08:00:48] Oh, I won't be resting. I just need to concentrate on actually doing this outreach. [08:01:01] lol - well then go get rest [08:01:10] I'll touch base with an ops person to see if it's even remotely feasible - and if so - write something up [08:01:46] * varnent afraid to bother ops folks during deployment.. [08:02:11] https://code.google.com/p/sabredav/wiki/CalDAV <- php CalDAV implementation [08:03:05] is there a way to prevent mediawiki from creating a revision, I just want it to overwrite whatever there was before e.g. [08:04:42] Amgine: yeah - looks like a few options: http://www.davical.org/index.php [08:05:49] pubsez: no. Mediawiki is a version control system for wikitext 'articles'. As such it always revisions an article, and by default displays the most-current version. It is possible to 'hide' a past revision, and it is possible to not display revisions until approved. [08:06:08] varnent: a few days back I was thinking of the share button..now I know there is already an extension for that [08:06:23] but its not used on wp...why? [08:06:39] nischayn22: lol - well that's a long conversation.. [08:06:57] yes i was reading it..it leads nowhee [08:07:00] nowhere [08:07:09] nischayn22: the simplest answer is WikiShare isn't done yet [08:07:40] nischayn22: because the most of the community doesn't want one, and most of the current implementations don't pass our privacy policy requirements [08:08:01] nischayn22: the more complicated answer is that enWP has an (IMHO unhealthy) aversion to all things social media related - this is being developed with those concerns in mind - but I'm not placing any bets on if ppl will accept it [08:08:29] varnent: also I was thinking of an fb app for wikipedia..like the washington post reader [08:08:45] http://apps.facebook.com/wpsocialreader/?ref=bookmarks&count=0&fb_source=bookmarks_apps&fb_bmpos=1_0 [08:08:48] p858snake|l: I would argue a lot with "most of the community doesn't want one" - I'd say a vocal and hostile minority doesn't - the privacy policy requirements have already been worked around several times on several WMF projects - WikiShare will follow that [08:09:06] nischayn22: that would violate the privacy policy [08:09:21] varnent: I am a newbie..could you explain how? [08:09:34] nischayn22: outside tracking of users [08:09:44] nischayn22: we can get away with the share button only because we can do it via a URL and not using any API or outside code [08:09:46] thanks again Amgine [08:09:51] yw [08:10:01] nischayn22: and it's done each time by the user by their own actions [08:10:20] nischayn22: the reader auto-tracks what you read - and has a lot of API / cross-site scripting involved [08:10:38] varnent: most of the implementations that have been propsed on en.wiki have been for solutions that doesn't take those mixtures into the proposal, and a fair lot of us that vote, don't want "share this on X" stuff on yet another website [08:10:55] nischayn22: Dantman and others have advocated for an free-community standard on social media APIs that is outside these privacy concerns [08:12:00] p858snake|l: I agree that there is a group that doesn't want it - but the more WMF staffers and outreach folks I talk with - the more I highly disagree on how large that community is - both new editor and reader retention staff have made it clear it's a highly demanded feature [08:12:44] p858snake|l: that said - we're making this one controlled via user preferences - so folks that don't want it can turn it off (or not turn it on depending on how it goes) [08:12:53] varnent: so wikishare won't violate any privacy issues? [08:13:22] nischayn22: correct - hence why it's taking some time - being very careful to make certain it doesn't - and working with the folks who know that policy inside/out :) [08:13:27] In fact I wanted to try implemented it [08:13:36] implementing* [08:13:47] speak of the devil :) [08:14:01] Well, a software-neutral implementation is highly desired, Dantman. [08:14:19] I think Dantman's vision is the long-term approach, WikiShare is a bandaid solution - and most likely only used by existing WMF projects that want it and not enWP [08:14:27] 03(NEW) When editing a script page on a RTL wiki the textbox should be LTR - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34723 normal; MediaWiki: Internationalization; (liangent) [08:14:29] varnent: I am considering participating in gsoc this year ..please let me know if there is something I can help with and learn some stuff [08:15:07] nischayn22: excellent - I'm involved with Wikimania and going to Netroots Nation - but familiar with gsoc :) [08:15:29] are you mentoring? [08:16:04] nischayn22: not at this time - no - mostly because I'm still new to WM culture - and my plate is full enough my partner is complaining about the mess it's making around the edges :) [08:16:46] sumanah has some really great mentoring connections though :) [08:17:21] varnent: still let me know if there are a few bugs I can solve.. [08:17:27] Ohhh... and here I just thought of an interesting way of letting users disable the share feature (the one I wanted to implement) [08:17:28] being new to mediawiki [08:17:31] nischayn22: absolutely :) [08:18:13] nischayn22: you may be interested in https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:WikiProject_Extensions [08:18:43] When you get close to the sharing area a grey x shows up on the right side of it. When you hover over it a tooltip says something like "Disable share buttons." [08:19:02] Dantman: brilliant! [08:19:19] using cookies if anonymous? [08:20:00]