[00:00:07] 03(mod) Support printing on iOS 4.2 and above (AirPrint - iPad, iPhone) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31967 normal->15enhancement (10Tomasz Finc) [00:00:20] ^demon|away: we need to fix the gerrit hooks badly [00:00:26] <^demon|away> Yes [00:00:29] 03(mod) Support external screen in iPhone/iPad app - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31968 normal->15enhancement (10Tomasz Finc) [00:00:32] to do lint checks on a per-type basis [00:00:37] <^demon|away> Although Antoine wants them as jenkins jobs instead [00:00:40] 03(mod) PhoneGap-based iOS app should support push notifications for talk updates etc - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32291 normal->15enhancement (10Tomasz Finc) [00:00:42] that's fine too [00:00:43] <^demon|away> Rather than doing the linting on the jenkins box [00:00:47] <^demon|away> s/jenkins/gerrit/ [00:00:49] ah [00:00:51] Yeah [00:00:54] varnent: pretty sure that's the git client I installed on OSX 2 years ago or so [00:00:56] yes. linting on gerrit is preferable [00:01:04] Well, also, repo filtering is just /so much easier/ in Jenkins [00:01:10] 03(mod) Android app v1.1 tracker - features - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33957 normal->15enhancement (10Tomasz Finc) [00:01:16] RoanKattouw: well, lint checks in gerrit make sense [00:01:17] 03(mod) Android app should allow pinch and zoom - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34293 normal->15enhancement (10Tomasz Finc) [00:01:22] any further form of testing does not [00:01:23] Why? [00:01:24] chrismcmahon: got it, moved your findings to https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Workflow#Troubleshooting :-) [00:01:30] it'll be faster? [00:01:37] 03(mod) History list, when cleared, re-appears when app is re-opened - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33709 (10Tomasz Finc) [00:01:41] chrismcmahon: playing with it now - got to review and about to test review.. [00:01:53] well, I say that. it's not necessarily true [00:02:05] <^demon|away> Ryan_Lane: Well I wasn't totally convinced by Antoine yet, so we can bikeshed over where to lint [00:02:10] varnent: ping me if you have an issue at the "git review" step. I had a couple to get around. [00:02:15] bawolff: it would be cool if you came to tomorrow's Git, Gerrit, & You training, but it is all in the doc [00:02:24] 03(mod) Interwiki list needs to show quality symbols like desktop - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34347 normal->15enhancement (10Tomasz Finc) [00:02:41] ^demon|away: for now, though, we need to fix the linters [00:02:41] sumanah: that would probably be a good idea, I am very unfamilar with all the git stuff [00:02:46] chrismcmahon: contemplating the easiest (for documentation) way to get git review to work with this cli [00:03:31] bawolff: in that case: ahead of time, please install git for your OS, and get Google+ working including the Hangout functionality [00:03:59] sumanah: I do have git installed [00:04:08] (not to mention gnu interactive tools as well ;) [00:04:19] bawolff: I will also schedule a session using screen or vnc or something before the switchover, but G+ works pretty darn well and requires little setup once their plugin is installed [00:04:29] 03(mod) [1.19 regression] Posting a reply to a thread does not display post after hitting save - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34765 +comment (10bawolff+wn) [00:04:40] * bawolff will look into google+ [00:04:41] 03(mod) Making uselang= stick when there is no chance to login - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34748 (10jidanni) [00:04:50] bawolff: if you have a suggestion for how we can run a session in GNU interactive tools where everyone in the group is simultaneously sharing their screen, please tell me [00:05:16] 03jeroendedauw * 10/trunk/extensions/EducationProgram/ (3 files): prevent people from moving stuff in and out the education namespaces [00:05:49] sumanah: no that's a joke, I accidentally installed the wrong thing that also has the acronym git [00:06:08] ! [00:07:00] 03(mod) Unable to click on and hence open gpl license page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34030 +comment (10tfinc) [00:07:02] 03jeroendedauw * 10/trunk/extensions/EducationProgram/EducationProgram.i18n.php: fix grammar error [00:07:07] 03(mod) Android app shows no link to open in regular browser - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31475 normal->15enhancement (10Tomasz Finc) [00:07:12] 03(mod) Keyboard navigation doesn't work in Android settings dialog - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32902 normal->15enhancement (10Tomasz Finc) [00:08:05] 03(mod) When saving a page normalize the page title first - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33627 normal->15enhancement (10Tomasz Finc) [00:08:11] 03(mod) The mobile site and the mobile app don't use WebFonts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33648 normal->15enhancement (10Tomasz Finc) [00:08:17] 03(mod) App should handle more than static pages: diffs, history tab, old revisions. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34692 +comment (10pete.public.email) [00:08:18] 03(mod) App should support top bar gradient or fallback on non-WebKit browsers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32071 normal->15enhancement (10Tomasz Finc) [00:08:24] @help [00:08:24] 03(mod) Tapping links in enwiki footer opens browser - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33015 normal->15enhancement (10Tomasz Finc) [00:08:24] Type @commands for list of commands. This bot is running http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WM-Bot version wikimedia bot v. 1.1.4 source code licensed under GPL and located in wikimedia svn [00:08:25] sumanah: On debian, apt-get install git (instead of git-core) gives you gnu-interactive tools, which i think is some sort of command line file browser or something [00:08:31] 03(mod) Authentication support for Android app - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31458 normal->15enhancement (10Tomasz Finc) [00:08:32] New code comment: Catrope; 
 \ + if( count( $ids ) == $limit ) { \
\ Instead of counting the number of ids every time, jus; [00:08:58] @commands [00:08:58] Commands: channellist, trusted, trustadd, trustdel, infobot-off, refresh, infobot-on, drop, whoami, add, reload, help, RC-, recentchanges-on, recentchanges-off, logon, logoff, recentchanges-, recentchanges+, RC+ [00:09:31] @add channel #USEagency [00:09:31] Permission denied [00:10:13] 03(mod) Unable to save a page in Wikipedia namespaces on zhwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33626 (10Tomasz Finc) [00:10:27] 03(mod) Save page goes to "Sorry, this page is not available" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33625 (10Tomasz Finc) [00:10:41] @help how to compile [00:10:41] Unknown command type @commands for a list of all commands I know [00:10:49] @how to compile [00:10:54] @add #USEagency [00:10:54] Permission denied [00:10:59] huh [00:11:03] @trusted [00:11:03] I trust: petan\|w!.*@wikimedia/Petrb (2admin), .*@wikimedia/.* (2trusted), .*@wikipedia/.* (2trusted), .*@mediawiki/..* (2trusted), [00:11:03] [wikimedia-commons/.*, s23.org, wiktionary/.*, add wikipedia/.*, .*\.wikimedia\.org, wikipedia/.*, 222-153-0-95.jetstream.xtra.co.nz, unaffiliated/p858snake, .*\.flyingparchment\.org\.uk, pdpc/supporter/.*/.*, .*\.toolserver\.org, unaffiliated/svip, sm.xs4all.nl, wikimedia/.*, cpe-69-201-152-135.nyc.res.rr.com, rbak-164-107-218-33\.resnet\.ohio-state\.edu, unaffiliated/smaug, [Mm]edia[Ww]iki/.*, 217.121.122.151, c-67-171-249-42.hsd1.wa.comcast.net, u [00:11:14] sumanah: I made one more addition to https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Workflow#Troubleshooting , about "git push" [00:11:53] thanks chrismcmahon -- yeah, what effect *does* "git push" have on the master? [00:12:01] or on anything stored in gerrit? [00:12:10] You mean a direct push? [00:12:12] 03(mod) PhoneGap-based iOS app needs API key for Facebook sharing? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33968 (10Tomasz Finc) [00:12:22] Well on a gated branch, it'll just be denied [00:12:24] sumanah: afaict, nothing at all [00:12:33] You'll get an error message [00:12:43] as Chris did not get. [00:12:45] "If you attempt to do 'git push' after doing 'git commit' you will receive a response 'Everything up-to-date'." [00:12:55] RoanKattouw: nope, user sees msg. "Everything up-to-date", no errors [00:13:02] wtf [00:13:07] That makes no sense [00:13:20] Maybe they're not on the master branch? Then I could see that [00:13:21] RoanKattouw: that's what I'm seeing (on two tries) [00:13:29] But anyway, if you're on a gated project, just don't use git push [00:13:32] There are more strange things in gerrit and git than are dreamt of in your philosophy [00:13:44] If you're not on a gated project, please explain what the hell you're trying to do [00:14:26] RoanKattouw: there is a step in the Git Workflow doc "git checkout -b BRANCHNAME master" that might be applicable [00:14:35] 03tstarling * 10/trunk/phase3/includes/api/ApiQueryRecentChanges.php: Fix exception from list=recentchanges rcprop=loginfo: update for new log system [00:14:36] OK [00:14:42] Yeah that probably causes it [00:14:52] git doesn't know of any remotes for your branch probably [00:15:09] so we're telling people to check out master and make it into a branch. [00:15:24] petan, check out pm [00:15:30] at which point "git push" will fail silently it seems [00:15:32] RoanKattouw: I TOLD you when you were all "everyone should branch" that this might lead to peculiarities to document...... in this case: people who are used to git, who are coming from other processes, *will* reflexively type "git push" [00:15:34] Specifically, we're telling people to create a branch for every independent change [00:15:42] Right [00:15:53] And they will now get a different error message [00:16:00] More confusing though [00:16:07] * sumanah is feeling a little frayed. should probably leave chat and attempt to finish these event followup mails [00:16:40] how do you do that where there is a * instead of nick? [00:16:48] RoanKattouw: it was confusing but I figured it out fairly quickly [00:17:01] If it's listed in the pitfalls section it should be fine [00:17:15] RoanKattouw: I just made that update to the doc. [00:17:23] petan: how do i get permission to [00:17:34] @add channet #USEagency [00:17:34] Permission denied [00:17:37] or [00:17:48] @add channel ###mediawiki### [00:17:48] Permission denied [00:18:07] Thanks [00:18:32] RoanKattouw: although I'm interested in what happens trying to push to master, trying that [00:18:53] 03tstarling * 10/branches/wmf/1.19wmf1/includes/api/ApiQueryRecentChanges.php: MFT r112546: Fix exception in list=recentchanges [00:19:25] 03inez * 10/trunk/extensions/VisualEditor/demos/playground/playground.js: Input implementation that seems to work in IE, FF and Chrome (all tested on Windows only) [00:19:46] 03(mod) App should handle more than static pages: diffs, history tab, old revisions. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34692 +comment (10philinje) [00:19:57] 14(DUP) Text for 3rd party library licenses should be links to the license documentation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34658 +comment (10Tomasz Finc) [00:21:57] 03inez * 10/trunk/extensions/VisualEditor/demos/playground/playground.js: Input implementation that seems to work in IE, FF and Chrome (all tested on Windows only) [00:26:18] 03tstarling * 10/branches/wmf/1.18wmf1/includes/resourceloader/ResourceLoaderFileModule.php: Suppress warning causing excessive log traffic [00:28:38] 03(mod) Add label to CAPTCHA input field - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34753 +accessibility (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [00:28:40] 03(mod) Markup accessibility issues (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/367 (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [00:29:04] 03(mod) Oversighting an account globally does not remove it from public lists ! - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34539 (10Rob Lanphier) [00:29:16] 03(mod) Collapsible navigation elements are no links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34754 +comment (10brion) [00:31:50] 03(mod) Collapsible navigation elements are no links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34754 +comment (10hartman) [00:34:44] 03jeroendedauw * 10/trunk/extensions/EducationProgram/ (4 files in 2 dirs): fix fatal and do not show summary field when creating new course or org [00:35:20] 03rmoen * 10/trunk/extensions/VisualEditor/modules/ve/es/ve.es.Surface.js: prototype RTL text mode cursor handling. Need to complete the unicode regular expression, and make helper methods for RTL boundary [00:38:17] New code comment: Catrope; 
 \ +CREATE INDEX /*_*/af_net_helpfulness_af_id ON /*_*/aft_article_feedback (af_id, af_net_helpfu; 
[00:39:15] 	 03krinkle *  10/trunk/phase3/tests/phpunit/includes/RecentChangeTest.php:
[00:39:15] 	 [RecentChangeTest] Refactor unit test to test better test the issue
[00:39:15] 	 * assert used message-keys/variables instead of hardcoded values
[00:39:15] 	 * Pass $comment to the assertion helper instead of using it by default so that actions that don't use a comment (such as patrol) don't get forced a comment, to better replicate the IRC behavior
[00:39:16] 	 * Adding placeholder for Auto-Edit-Summary things that should also be checked in here, not sure how to do those yet
[00:39:17] 	 * Adding tests for block/* and protect/*
[00:40:11] 	 RoanKattouw: seems I can push without review: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?p=test%2Fmediawiki%2Fextensions%2Fexamples.git;a=commit;h=599b1185d8362c42372e1f0fd1afccd41cf07246
[00:41:03] 	 New review: Ottomata; "(no comment)" [analytics/reportcard] (andre/mobile); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/2740
[00:41:03] 	 Change merged: Ottomata; [analytics/reportcard] (andre/mobile) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/2770
[00:41:04] 	 Change merged: Ottomata; [analytics/reportcard] (andre/mobile) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/2740
[00:41:17] 	 You really shouldn't be able to
[00:41:24] 	 ^demon|away: See chrismcmahon above ---^^
[00:41:50] 	 RoanKattouw: agreed. there's a real potential for havoc there (if I haven't already created some)
[00:41:57] <^demon|away>	 test/ may not be entirely correct.
[00:42:06] 	 Oh, it's test/
[00:42:09] <^demon|away>	 Don't fret. That's why it's called test/
[00:42:12] 	 ah
[00:42:13] 	 As long as the perms are set up right on the real repo
[00:42:21] <^demon|away>	 Oh Ryan_Lane left :\
[00:42:30] <^demon|away>	 I need to adjust permissions on mediawiki/
[00:42:37] <^demon|away>	 siebrand was able to push to it earlier.
[00:42:39] <^demon|away>	 Should be r/o right now
[00:42:55] * ^demon|away  goes back to dinner
[00:43:00] 	 03jeroendedauw *  10/trunk/extensions/EducationProgram/EducationProgram.i18n.php: message tweak
[00:43:36] 	 still seems like it could get messy
[00:46:25] 	 03rmoen *  10/trunk/extensions/VisualEditor/modules/ve/es/ve.es.Surface.js: cleanup previous commit. follow up r112552
[00:52:31] 	 anyone know if git is available via pip install?  I know git-review is..
[00:52:48] 	 03(mod) [1.19 regression] Posting a reply to a thread does not display post after hitting save - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34765  +comment (10brion)
[00:55:32] 	 New code comment: Jeroen De Dauw; It passes redlink=1 and it has a simpler syntax. Plus it allows only having this functionality, rath; 
[00:55:44] 	 varnent: git isn't written in Python, so I would think not
[00:56:13] 	 hmmm..getting git-review on Mac is interesting..
[00:56:32] 	 That's why I'm so happy to be an Ubuntu user :D
[00:56:39] 	 :p
[00:59:29] 	 03(mod) Oversighting an account globally does not remove it from public lists ! - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34539  +comment (10aschulz4587)
[01:00:16] 	 03(mod) [1.19 regression] Posting a reply to a thread does not display post after hitting save if number of replies is > number of replies to show in pref - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34765  summary; +comment (10Bawolff)
[01:00:30] 	 varnent I didn't have a problem getting git-review
[01:01:24] 	 chrismcmahon: where did you get it - just manual download/ copy to drive / register package?
[01:01:54] 	 varnent: 'sudo easy_install pip' then 'sudo pip install git-review'
[01:02:56] 	 okay - so pip was the easiest way to go  :)
[01:03:14] 	 03(mod) Oversighting an account globally does not remove it from public lists ! - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34539  +comment (10Bawolff)
[01:03:29] 	 varnent: but the git client itself is a different animal
[01:04:07] 	 Hiyas
[01:04:25] 	 varnent: you also have to be in the right directory to call git-review correctly
[01:04:35] 	 how do you go about asking a ?
[01:05:17] 	 chrismcmahon: so - googleproject for the git package - and then pip for git-review?
[01:05:29] 	 varnent: sound right to me
[01:05:32] 	 New code comment: ^demon; I'm not convinced, but I'm not going to bikeshed.; 
[01:05:33] 	 *sounds
[01:05:52] 	 how do you hide a usergroup from being listed on groups rights?
[01:06:01] 	 03jeroendedauw *  10/trunk/extensions/EducationProgram/ (3 files in 2 dirs): fix auth check for undo and restore actions
[01:06:52] 	 MW 1.18.1:  I would like to upload images and pdfs to my wiki direct to the server and uncompress as it's faster.  Is it viable and what directory do the go to?  Thanx
[01:07:16] 	 images
[01:07:44] 	 very good (slaps hand on head) and logical too, 'eh?! ;)
[01:07:56] <^demon|away>	 Ryan_Lane: So I'll hold off on git-repacking all those wmf extensions until we're on the new box?
[01:08:19] 	 glad I could help
[01:10:47] 	 New code comment: Siebrand; Small list of solutions for page creation: \ # http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/extensi; 
[01:11:15] 	 !e TEST
[01:11:15] 	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:TEST
[01:11:41] 	 !help
[01:11:42] 	 http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:`e1
[01:12:13] 	 !e farmer
[01:12:13] 	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:farmer
[01:12:19] 	 chrismcmahon: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Git/Workflow#Steps_for_getting_Git_installed_on_Mac_via_Terminal
[01:12:36] 	 never heard of extension:farmer
[01:12:38] 	 how do you run a .sql thing for an extension
[01:12:46] 	 03(mod) Oversighting an account globally does not remove it from public lists ! - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34539  +comment (10aschulz4587)
[01:14:03] 	 farmer allows creation of wikifarm
[01:15:52] 	 MW 1.18:  I have uploaded several pdfs and am wanting to know the best extension to use to display.  Currently using PDF Handler but seems a bit slow (could be me as I'm old too!)
[01:16:41] 	 !1.18
[01:16:42] 	 MediaWiki 1.18 is out. Latest version is 1.18.1; ; REL1_18 branched on 18 July 2011 at r92475 ;
[01:16:59] 	 @add channel #USEagency
[01:16:59] 	 Permission denied
[01:17:12] 	 Hey guys, how do I get rid of stuff like this? http://wiki.librecad.org/index.php/User:Das2sa
[01:17:25] 	 need help petan told me that eas all i had to do to get the bot but now it tells me otherwise
[01:17:45] 	 ries: Delete it?
[01:17:49] 	 and this : http://wiki.librecad.org/index.php/RhonaKnisley133
[01:17:57] 	 03inez *  10/trunk/extensions/VisualEditor/demos/playground/playground.js: Improved support for spellchecker
[01:17:58] 	 ?help
[01:18:02] 	 how can I prevent people putting nonence on a wiki?
[01:18:20] 	 New patchset: Varnent; "test2" [test/mediawiki/extensions/examples] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/2816
[01:18:21] 	 New review: gerrit2; "Lint check passed." [test/mediawiki/extensions/examples] (master); V: 1 - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/2816
[01:19:08] 	 now to watch alcatraz on fox
[01:22:02] 	 New code comment: Jeroen De Dauw; But mine is simplest! :) \ It's very true we got a lot of feature duplication though. One effect of n; 
[01:22:42] 	 !spam
[01:22:42] 	 For information about combating and handling spam in MediaWiki, see  and .
[01:23:10] 	 alright - Mac instructions done - I may play around with instructions for a gui app if I ever find a gerrit compatible one  :)
[01:23:55] 	 ries: Since you have nothing, I suggest starting out with SimpleAntiSpam, one of the ConfirmEdit captchas, and AbuseFilter. Maybe spamblacklist too, but I'm not sure how useful that's been lately.
[01:24:19] 	 Dantman: I will install that… in the mean time, how do I delete that stuff?
[01:24:26] 	 I don't see a delete button !!
[01:24:33] 	 ries: You are a sysop, right?
[01:24:35] 	 Even when I go to : http://wiki.librecad.org/index.php?title=Special%3ADeletedContributions&target=Das2sa&namespace=
[01:24:43] 	 I can see the entries, but no delete
[01:25:17] 	 New code comment: Saper; Link to go to the form is gone: \ $wgOut->addHTML( $this->sk->makeKnownLinkObj( $this->getTitle(), wf; 
[01:25:28] 	 ries: The delete button will be on the page itself. Perhaps you're confused by vector. In vector the actions like move and delete are under the hover menu noted by the arrow.
[01:26:11] 	 Ahh crap… it's under the arrow thing...
[01:27:12] 	 Is it possible that I allow new users, but before they can post I get a mail with approve or deny?
[01:28:05] 	 !e ConfirmAccount | ries
[01:28:05] 	 ries: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ConfirmAccount
[01:28:35] 	 ries: Keep something in mind though. I have that extension on one wiki I administrate...... spambots spam that too.
[01:29:32] 	 I find it's almost easier to write AbuseFilter rules that work well enough to stop bad edits. And ignore the flood of junk user registrations.
[01:29:39] 	 I use the confirmed account as described by user permissions; and don't seem to have any problems with them getting into that user group.
[01:29:46] 	 Once in awhile something gets through, and you find a new word you should add to the abusefilter rules.
[01:31:52] 	 Does mediawiki have a 'edition' that has all that stuff pre-configured?
[01:32:08] 	 Or, like wordpress that you can simply install these anti-spam features?
[01:32:09] 	 03(FIXED) 'upload'-only protection does not work for file reversions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34209  +comment (10Aaron Schulz)
[01:35:41] 	 03(mod) wikitech.wikimedia.org SSL cert invalid & out of date - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27291  +comment (10Amgine.Saewyc)
[01:37:20] 	 ries: no. The current tar, iirc, includes a number of useful extensions which you may choose to enable or not during the initial installation.
[01:37:27] 	 Ok..
[01:37:41] 	 03rmoen *  10/trunk/extensions/VisualEditor/modules/ve/es/ve.es.Surface.js: fixed my typo follow up r112555
[01:38:26] 	 03jeroendedauw *  10/trunk/extensions/EducationProgram/ (3 files in 2 dirs): implemeted restore functionality, still needs much UI work though
[01:42:12] 	 03jeroendedauw *  10/trunk/extensions/EducationProgram/ (actions/EPRestoreAction.php includes/EPRevisionedObject.php): Follow up to r112559; only revert fields that should be reverted...
[01:43:01] 	 timstearling, can you help me add the bot to #USEagency and ###mediawiki###
[01:47:20] 	 still need it on ###mediawiki###
[01:48:51] 	 !b 34508
[01:48:51] 	 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34508
[01:50:07] 	 03(mod) [Vector] Shift + enter in search box does not popup the search in a new browser tab or window - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34756  +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[01:50:32] 	 03(mod) Contributor list has duplicates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34758  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[01:52:21] 	 03(mod) Improve SQLite detection, to be able to execute SQLite tests - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34759  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[01:54:12] 	 03(mod) CLDR doesn't build pt files correctly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34760   +i18n (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[01:56:20] 	 03krinkle *  10/trunk/phase3/ (2 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed)
[01:56:20] 	 [IRC Log Message] Fix for protect/protect and protect/modify
[01:56:20] 	 * protect/protect and protect/modify were still failing because the output on IRC is not matching the i18n messages. The bots look for comment.match( + (optionally) followed by ": user comment").
[01:56:20] 	 * The problem with protect/protect and protect/modify is that the protection
[01:56:21] 	 settings are also inserted in somewhere in the message. Before MediaWiki 1.19
[01:56:22] 	 these were included in the IRC message as part of $1 (title). That may be ugly,
[01:56:23] 	 but that's how it has always been. Since the point is to reproduce the old
[01:57:41] 	 03saper *  10/trunk/extensions/CheckUser/SpecialCheckUserLog.php:
[01:57:41] 	 Restore "checkuser-log-return" ("Return to CheckUser main form") link to the CU log
[01:57:41] 	 This was accidentally removed in r100506
[02:00:02] 	 New code comment: Saper; Fixed in r112562; 
[02:01:09] 	 03(mod) Patching DatabaseMysql.php's close to meet specification - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34762   +need-review +patch (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[02:01:36] 	 AaronSchulz: While you're at it could do merge&deploy r112533 and r112534 too>
[02:01:54] 	 03(mod) Gerrit puppet linter should only lint operation/puppet not PHP projects. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34764  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[02:04:06] 	 03(mod) [1.19 regression] Posting a reply to a thread does not display post after hitting save if number of replies is > number of replies to show in pref - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34765  +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[02:04:32] 	 03aaron *  10/trunk/phase3/includes/Block.php: Force the target user ID to be the correct foreign ID on the relevant local wikis for crosswiki suppress blocks.
[02:05:02] 	 New code comment: Aaron Schulz; This is for bug 34539.; 
[02:06:09] 	 03(mod) [Vector] Shift + enter in search box does not popup the search in a new browser tab or window - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34756  +comment (10Daniel Friesen)
[02:07:07] 	 03(mod) thumbnail generator fails with a % in file name (update image magik) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/26233   +testme; +comment (10Bawolff)
[02:09:05] 	 Project MediaWiki-postgres-phpunit build #2500: FAILURE in 2 min 44 sec: https://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/MediaWiki-postgres-phpunit/2500/
[02:09:20] 	 03aaron *  10/branches/wmf/1.19wmf1/ (6 files in 4 dirs): MFT r112563, r112533, r112534
[02:09:40] 	 Project MediaWiki-sqlite-phpunit build #8052: FAILURE in 3 min 20 sec: https://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/MediaWiki-sqlite-phpunit/8052/
[02:09:48] 	 hrm
[02:10:27] 	 ok then, no deploying yet
[02:10:34] 	 03(mod) Patching DatabaseMysql.php's close to meet specification - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34762  +comment (10mah)
[02:10:48] 	 03(mod) [1.19 regression] Posting a reply to a thread does not display post after hitting save if number of replies is > number of replies to show in pref - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34765  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[02:11:04] 	 03(mod) Patching DatabaseMysql.php's close to meet specification - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34762  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[02:11:53] 	 03(mod) [1.19 regression] Posting a reply to a thread does not display post after hitting save if number of replies is > number of replies to show in pref - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34765  +comment (10bawolff+wn)
[02:12:04] 	 03(mod) Posting a reply to a thread does not display post after hitting save if number of replies is > number of replies to show in pref - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34765  summary (10Bawolff)
[02:12:46] 	 bawolff: woo! I saw the js notification that you created new posts
[02:13:33] 	 yeah, looks like just a case of coincidental timing in terms of discovering the bug
[02:14:26] 	 RoanKattouw: weird, manually testing blocks seems sane
[02:18:17] 	 New code comment: Catrope; 
 \ + $page = Title::newFromID( $pageId ); \ + $title = $page->getPartialURL(); \ 
 \ You're using ; 
[02:18:21] 	 03demon *  10/trunk/phase3/ (6 files in 2 dirs):
[02:18:21] 	 (bug 34762) Calling close() on a DatabaseBase object now clears the connection. Based on patch by Christian.
[02:18:21] 	 By the way, the duplication here is stupid.
[02:19:17] 	 03(FIXED) Patching DatabaseMysql.php's close to meet specification - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34762  +comment (10Chad H.)
[02:24:07] 	 Project MediaWiki-postgres-phpunit build #2501: STILL FAILING in 2 min 48 sec: https://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/MediaWiki-postgres-phpunit/2501/
[02:24:40] 	 Project MediaWiki-sqlite-phpunit build #8053: STILL FAILING in 3 min 20 sec: https://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/MediaWiki-sqlite-phpunit/8053/
[02:28:29] 	 Ohhh... I wonder when this will make it's way into Chrome
[02:28:37] 	 https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=60550
[02:28:49] 	 http://trac.webkit.org/changeset/103805 *
[02:33:01] 	 03aaron *  10/trunk/phase3/tests/phpunit/includes/ (BlockTest.php TitlePermissionTest.php): r112563: Removed random bogus user IDs passed into to Block constructor in tests
[02:36:31] 	 03catrope *  10/trunk/phase3/resources/mediawiki.action/mediawiki.action.edit.js: Fix scoping in r112451: isReady was accidentally used as a global variable
[02:37:03] * AaronSchulz  waits for tests
[02:37:19] 	 Krinkle: I can haz CR? ---^^
[02:37:34] 	 on it
[02:39:23] 	 Yippie, build fixed!
[02:39:23] 	 Project MediaWiki-postgres-phpunit build #2502: FIXED in 3 min 3 sec: https://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/MediaWiki-postgres-phpunit/2502/
[02:39:58] 	 Yippie, build fixed!
[02:39:58] 	 Project MediaWiki-sqlite-phpunit build #8054: FIXED in 3 min 38 sec: https://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/MediaWiki-sqlite-phpunit/8054/
[02:40:33] 	 03aaron *  10/branches/wmf/1.19wmf1/ (3 files in 2 dirs): MFT r112566
[02:44:47] 	 New code comment: Catrope; For the record, I did say to initialize to $([]), not [].; 
[02:46:10] 	 03(mod) Oversighting an account globally does not remove it from public lists ! - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34539  +comment (10aschulz4587)
[02:55:29] 	 Object.prototype.isReedy = false;)
[02:55:44] 	 03tstarling *  10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialMovepage.php: Fix r110209: Move the invalid title check above the first use of the title object, to avoid a fatal error, for example when navigating to [[Special:MovePage]] with no target.
[02:55:50] 	 03catrope *  10/branches/wmf/1.19wmf1/ (5 files in 5 dirs): 1.19wmf1: MFT r111983, r112384, r112451, r112561, r112562, r112567
[02:57:32] 	 03aaron *  10/trunk/extensions/Collection/Collection.body.php:
[02:57:32] 	 Fixed:
[02:57:32] 	 "Fatal error: Call to a member function getNamespace() on a non-object at /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.19/includes/specials/SpecialMovepage.php on line 59"
[02:57:49] 	 03tstarling *  10/branches/wmf/1.19wmf1/includes/specials/SpecialMovepage.php: MFT r112569: fix fatal error on [[Special:MovePage]]
[02:58:39] 	 AaronSchulz: funny, I thought that's the error I was fixing
[02:58:50] 	 lol
[02:59:32] 	 New code comment: Aaron Schulz; Should be "Call to a member function getTimestamp() on a non-object in /usr/local/apache/common-loca; 
[02:59:33] 	 ^_^ Nothing wrong with a little overkill.
[02:59:39] 	 we may get kicked off the network here shortly
[02:59:49] 	 (those of us in the WMF office)
[03:04:28] 	 03(mod) [Regression] IRC string output for log messages no longer compatible - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34508  +comment (10krinklemail)
[03:14:41] 	 03(mod) Many tiff thumbs fail with error "Error retrieving thumbnail from scaling server: empty response" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34724   +ops; summary; +comment (10Bawolff)
[03:17:10] 	 03krinkle *  10/trunk/phase3/resources/mediawiki.action/mediawiki.action.edit.js: (log message trimmed)
[03:17:10] 	 [mediawiki.action.edit] Clean up and bug fixes
[03:17:10] 	 * Bugfix: Locally alias the toolbar object and replace usage of 'this' with
[03:17:10] 	 'toolbar'. Calls to window.addButton were failing due to it referring to the
[03:17:11] 	 dynamic 'this' context which changes when the function is a member of a
[03:17:12] 	 different object.
[03:17:13] 	 * Bugfux: Move currentFocused = $( '#wpTextbox1' ) into the dom-ready hook. When executed before dom-ready the element doesn't exist yet. r111983 did this for $toolbar, but not for currentFocused (bug 34538)
[03:25:27] 	 03(mod) [Vector] Shift + enter in search box does not popup the search in a new browser tab or window - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34756  +comment (10fastgoldfish)
[03:26:16] 	 MW1.18.1:  I want to load a bunch of pdfs direct into my server for MW.  I looked in the /images but all I see is 1-9 and a- a bunch of letters.  Where do I put them?  Thanx
[03:37:02] 	 New code comment: Krinkle; Confirmed live and updated in http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/IRCBot-Messages ; protect/protect and pr; 
[03:47:24] 	 Database error "1146:Table xxx.xx.mw_uploadstash does not exist (localhost)  Kicks when I try to upload a pdf  Any ideas
[03:50:48] 	 03(mod) [SiteMatrix] Provide a way to skip http://www.wikimedia.ch/ - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34370  +comment (10krinklemail)
[03:52:52] 	 OffGridOps: As far as I know it's not supported to make uploads directly to MediaWiki's file base
[03:53:15] 	 there's several checks and meta-data storages and stuff that needs to be saved and logged into MediaWiki for proper funciton
[03:53:16] 	 function*
[03:53:27] 	 OffGridOps: Did you get that error when using Special:Upload ?
[03:53:42] 	 OffGridOps: Did you recently upgrade MediaWiki? If so, did you run maintenance/update.php ?
[03:54:02] 	 Krinkle, it was odd I had deleted out an older pdf and was trying to upload the new one.  Yeah Special:Upload, no upgrades but it works on all others as long as i don't delete the files out
[03:54:25] 	 OffGridOps: You can click 'upload a new version' o the FIle:-page
[03:54:32] 	 no need to replace fils on the hard drive direcftly
[03:54:40] 	 files, directly*
[03:54:41] 	 just a sec and ill check
[03:54:49] 	 03(FIXED) [SiteMatrix] Provide a way to skip http://www.wikimedia.ch/ - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34370  +comment (10Tim Starling)
[03:56:01] 	 03(VERIFIED) [SiteMatrix] Provide a way to skip http://www.wikimedia.ch/ - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34370  +comment (10Krinkle)
[03:57:21] 	 Krinkle, odd, now it worked just fine simply using the Special:Upload.  Could this be an issue w/my host's SQL?
[03:57:29] 	 OffGridOps: Don't know
[03:57:37] 	 If you see it again, let us know :)
[03:57:43] 	 ok thanx for your input !  will do
[04:28:19] 	 03santhosh *  10/trunk/extensions/Translate/utils/StatsTable.php: If priority languages are defined for a group, do not show other languages in stats pages. Change the blacklist logic accordingly.
[05:00:27] 	 03yaron *  10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/SF_Utils.php: Follow-up to r112515 - restored some tabbing that got changed
[05:02:35] 	 ping Amgine 
[05:03:33] 	 
[05:03:38] 	 03santhosh *  10/trunk/extensions/Translate/tag/PageTranslationHooks.php:
[05:03:39] 	 1. Restrict translation to a language if the group has a different priority language list
[05:03:39] 	 2. Display all the priority languages in the languages listed on top of a translated page. Show red link if translation percent is zero.
[05:03:57] 	 Amg
[05:04:08] 	 Amgine: I just put together a blog post
[05:04:30] 	 I think the next one is due tonight: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/UCOSP_Spring_2012/Blog/27_Feb
[05:04:32] 	 Cool! Is due today, but no one responded. Did my e-mail not get out?
[05:04:44] 	 I didn't get an email.
[05:04:50] 	 
[05:05:16] 	 Did you email me earlier in response to my other email to you, Tomasz and Yuivi?
[05:05:42] 	 No. We were supposed to meet today about it, but the meeting didn't happen.
[05:06:03] 	 Ok. Well I guess I'll see you guys tomorrow?
[05:06:14] 	 Sure. Hang on just a moment...
[05:06:30] 	 sure thing
[05:07:08] 	 Which irc client are you using, Sheac?
[05:08:32] 	 Colloquy
[05:08:56] 	 I sent a pm. Should be another tab available to you.
[05:22:48] 	 03yaron *  10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/ (INSTALL SemanticForms.php): Version 2.4.1-alpha
[05:32:13] 	 03santhosh *  10/trunk/extensions/Translate/PageTranslation.i18n.php:
[05:32:13] 	 Error message to be shown when user tried to edit a restricted page.
[05:32:13] 	 Followup r112576
[05:46:39] 	 03(mod) Use localised parentheses in Special:Contributions, RecentChanges and ShortPages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34702  +comment (10whym)
[05:49:03] 	 04(REOPENED) Use localised parentheses in Special:Contributions, RecentChanges and ShortPages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34702  (10Yusuke Matsubara)
[05:49:28] 	 03(mod) Use localised parentheses in Special:Contributions, RecentChanges and ShortPages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34702   +need-review +patch (10Yusuke Matsubara)
[06:07:51] 	 Snowolf: Just saw your e-mail. Sorry for not getting back to you sooner. I tend to be pretty bad about checking my gmail.... But yes, I did write mwbot. No, I'm not sure where the code lives, but I do know that I did give it to someone at some time... :-/
[06:08:09] 	 amidaniel: I found a copy :)
[06:08:18] 	 Great :)
[06:08:33] 	 I just can't believe it's still in use...
[06:08:37] 	 haha :D
[06:08:58] 	 I must have written it like 5 years ago at least.
[06:09:10] 	 At some point a replacement was produced and proposed (wm-bot) but as I understand it people liked the old one and wanted to keep using it xD
[06:09:34] 	 Lmao. Oh, but I see wm-bot is in the channel... How do I talk to it?
[06:09:59] 	 amidaniel: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WM-Bot I think, not familiar with it tho
[06:11:00] 	 Huh. Seems pretty much the same.
[06:14:34] 	 Wow. mwbot has learned a lot of ... strange ... things in the interim. And gotten his own toolserver account. My. Oh, I think I still own the mwbot nick if anyone wanted to take that over...
[06:14:49] 	 https://toolserver.org/~mwbot/botbrain.html
[06:52:17] 	 New code comment: Nikerabbit; But still breaks translated namespaces.; 
[06:58:58] 	 03(NEW) Logo of Sanskrit Wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34766 major; Wikimedia: Site logos; (abhivasishtaa)
[06:59:51] 	 03(NEW) http://static.wikipedia.org has two sections Download and Browse. Please delete Browse section because their links are broken, or update it. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34767 normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (mail)
[07:01:16] 	 New review: ArielGlenn; "(no comment)" [operations/dumps] (ariel); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/2684
[07:03:09] 	 New review: ArielGlenn; "Rough but working" [operations/dumps] (ariel); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/2711
[07:03:10] 	 Change merged: ArielGlenn; [operations/dumps] (ariel) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/2711
[07:03:29] 	 *sigh* the idea of ditching Google TV and going for something more Android branded seams like the right way to go
[07:03:55] 	 For something purporting to be Honeycomb this is really sub-par as far as Android goes
[07:04:13] 	 New review: ArielGlenn; "(no comment)" [operations/dumps] (ariel); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/2739
[07:04:13] 	 Change merged: ArielGlenn; [operations/dumps] (ariel) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/2739
[07:04:28] 	 New review: ArielGlenn; "(no comment)" [operations/dumps] (ariel); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/2758
[07:04:55] 	 Chrome to TV doesn't even seam to workx
[07:05:06] 	 03(NEW) Set width and height for search-ltr.png (and search-rtl.png) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34768 trivial; MediaWiki: Vector skin; (bachinchi)
[07:05:31] 	 03(mod) CLDR doesn't build pt files correctly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34760  +comment (10niklas.laxstrom)
[07:06:04] 	 And one would ask; Why, even though the hardware supports bluetooth, and has pairing options in the system settings; can't you pair it with a phone or other device?
[07:06:11] 	 It works fine on android...
[07:07:45] 	 Why can't I pair my Revue and laptop and use standard bluetooth on my laptop to send a link to my tv without any stupid chrome ext and have it open on my TV?
[07:14:33] 	 Woooow... Chrome to TV 'does' work..... it just takes several minutes to get sent.... pft
[07:14:48] 	 I would like to request a cloak
[07:16:24] 	 !cloak
[07:16:25] 	 http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Cloak
[07:16:27] 	 !cloak
[07:16:27] 	 http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Cloak
[07:17:24] 	 Please don't pointlessly repeat commands to the bot
[07:20:23] 	 03(mod) Logo of Sanskrit Wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34766   +shell (10Santhosh Thottingal)
[07:22:35] 	 !hi
[07:22:35] 	 http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:`e1
[07:23:03] 	 !lmgtfy mmmmmmmmmmm
[07:23:04] 	 http://lmgtfy.com/?q=mmmmmmmmmmm
[07:23:12] 	 Dantman: On some networks, you request a cloak through commands like that... ;-)
[07:23:22] 	 Thetechexpert: Use private message or #mwbot to play with the bot.
[07:23:33] 	 03(mod) Bug with updating - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34688  +comment (101994constant)
[07:23:42] 	 Wtf... !hi is aliased to !help?
[07:23:52] 	 Yeah, not sure what that's about.
[07:23:55] 	 !hi del
[07:23:56] 	 Successfully removed keyword: hi
[07:24:11] 	 There's some reasonable "Hi, I'm mwbot" response somewhere.
[07:24:11] 	 I could understand something like !h
[07:24:14] 	 !h
[07:24:14] 	 http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:`e1
[07:24:18] 	 !mwbot
[07:24:18] 	 Hi! I'm mwbot, a bot that was quickly whipped up by Daniel Cannon (AmiDaniel) to help out around #mediawiki. Some quick help is at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mwbot, you can find all my source code at http://amidaniel.com/viewvc/trunk/MWBot/?root=svn
[07:24:23] 	 :-D
[07:24:25] 	 Oh sweet Jesus.
[07:24:27] 	 amidaniel is here?
[07:24:38] 	 Yes. It happens once every decade or so.
[07:24:42] 	 !amidaniel
[07:24:44] 	 I don't know anything about "amidaniel". You might try: !hello !mwbot 
[07:24:46] 	 What's up? :-)
[07:24:53] 	 !hi
[07:24:54] 	 I don't know anything about "hi". You might try: !@ !adminsettings !anglebrackets !bot !export !f5 !fu !hello !hiddencategories !highlight !iis !install !lazy !mwbot !numberedparams !package !packages !putty !sandbox !svnprops 
[07:25:03] 	 O_o
[07:25:08] 	 !hello
[07:25:08] 	 Hi! I'm mwbot, a bot that was quickly whipped up by Daniel Cannon (AmiDaniel) to help out around #mediawiki. Some quick help is at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mwbot
[07:25:17] 	 Hmmm... desync
[07:25:18] 	 Nothing much. Just thought I'd come see what's new in wikiland.
[07:25:20] 	 !@
[07:25:20] 	 @ is the "error suppression operator" and should never be used in code, ever. This is an example of a lazy coder: $from = @$options['from'];
[07:25:36] 	 amidaniel: Lua ahead!
[07:25:42] 	 !lazy
[07:25:42] 	 Don't rely on the bot answers too much, I am not always the best answer to every question. And don't immediately reach for the bot to answer a question, without at least checking the recent channel history to see if someone already botted them. Also, if someone says "can anyone help me", check that they haven't already stated the question and been told not to repeat themselves (reducing them to ask "can anyone help me?").
[07:25:44] 	 Thetechexpert: Please use a PM with the bot to play with random commands
[07:25:44] 	 And... that's about it.
[07:25:52] 	 Lua?
[07:25:54] 	 Thetechexpert: That's getting annoying.
[07:26:10] 	 amidaniel: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Lua_scripting
[07:26:19] 	 Oh! Joan is MZMcBride! Good to know :)
[07:26:26] 	 (o;
[07:26:33] 	 Hiding.
[07:26:38] 	 amidaniel: Try this for something new http://shorturls.redwerks.org/
[07:27:41] 	 YES! Netflix has Futurama!
[07:28:17] 	 amidaniel: I rewrote mwbot's keep-alive .sh script yesterday. I still don't understand Java.
[07:28:24] 	 Joan: Holy sweaty balls. That's going to require rewriting A LOT of templates. Holy cow.
[07:28:39] 	 Joan: Oh? Java's pretty easy...
[07:29:06] 	 Wow who made this bot
[07:29:11] 	 !hello
[07:29:12] 	 Hi! I'm mwbot, a bot that was quickly whipped up by Daniel Cannon (AmiDaniel) to help out around #mediawiki. Some quick help is at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mwbot
[07:29:12] 	 amidaniel: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Lua_scripting/Meeting_2012-01-25 | grep "fallback"
[07:29:25] 	 oh right... amidaniel, how about the though of hosting mwbot on labs?
[07:29:47] 	 Heh.
[07:29:54] 	 He's not very connected to the bot any longer. ;-)
[07:29:56] 	 I have no opinion on anything.
[07:30:07] 	 You want to talk to me or Roan or someone with access to the mwbot TS account.
[07:30:26] 	 Joan: Aside from the back door I put in so I can one day rise up and take over mediawiki.
[07:30:30] 	 And I think I said on the mailing list that I didn't care if it was replaced by wmbot, I was just worried about the channel logs and a few other minor details.
[07:30:30] 	 ^^ Well, you're here
[07:30:43] 	 Heh.
[07:30:48] 	 Ah right.. the url is the toolserver url
[07:31:00] 	 It's hard to write backdoors into open source code mind you...
[07:31:13] 	 Or at least, it requires some cajones.
[07:31:16] 	 amidaniel: And yet too easy to have XSS vulnerabilities!
[07:31:29] 	 I was poking some Toolserver tools a few days ago. Good grief...
[07:31:29] 	 amidaniel: ;) Just write 'easter eggs' like the one Tim wrote
[07:31:49] 	 I think there is one somewhere in mwbot... But I'd need to look at the code to remember.
[07:31:50] 	 amidaniel: You still coding and shit?
[07:31:54] 	 What's Tim's easter egg?
[07:32:01] 	 He put one in SpecialVersion.php.
[07:32:06] 	 That I still don't understand.
[07:32:09] 	 It's very obscure.
[07:32:12] 	 I never bothered trying to pull it apart myself
[07:32:16] 	 Joan: Yeah, just finished my Master's in CS. Working at Sandia Labs. Selling out, basically.
[07:32:20] 	 I might have glanced at it
[07:32:23] 	 amidaniel: :D
[07:32:30] 	 Congrats on the master's.
[07:32:37] 	 Grazie.
[07:32:57] 	 At the moment, though, I'm spec-ing out a protocol for a Skat server I've been wanting to hack up for some time.
[07:33:06] 	 Just for shits and giggles.
[07:33:08] 	 Better Skat than scat, I suppose.
[07:33:19] 	 It's a card game. :)
[07:33:28] 	 03(NEW) Enabling of autopatroller rights for Sanskrit Wikisource (sa-ws) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34769 major; Wikimedia: Site requests; (abhivasishtaa)
[07:33:46] 	 Joan: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skat_%28card_game%29
[07:33:51] 	 And what have you been up to?
[07:34:02] 	 Graduated undergrad.
[07:34:08] 	 Now doing IT/Web work for a non-profit.
[07:34:08] 	 Shweet. CS?
[07:34:16] 	 Heh, people assume. ;-)
[07:34:19] 	 Communications, mostly.
[07:34:23] 	 With some other random shit thrown in.
[07:34:38] 	 I finished a year early and now I'm part of the working world.
[07:34:58] 	 Oh boy, oh boy. Sucks, don't it?
[07:35:10] 	 Yes.
[07:35:24] 	 So much stupidity.
[07:35:38] 	 The waste is what bothers me most.
[07:35:51] 	 That game looks confusing as hell.
[07:35:59] 	 It is. That's why I love it. :-)
[07:36:11] 	 Waste of time, you mean?
[07:36:17] 	 Waste of peoples' lives?
[07:36:24] 	 Or waste like how muhc paper people throw out?
[07:36:26] 	 much
[07:36:31] 	 All of the above. And waste of money.
[07:36:41] 	 Yeah, it's all a bit depressing.
[07:36:44] 	 Of course that may just be more pronounced working for the government and all.
[07:36:57] 	 Which part of the country are you in now?
[07:37:02] 	 I'm in New Mexico.
[07:37:05] 	 Ah, nice.
[07:37:07] 	 I'm in D.C.
[07:37:26] 	 Oh my.
[07:37:37] 	 D.C.'s a nice place to visit, but I don't know that I'd want to live there.
[07:37:52] 	 New Mexico's not a nice place to visit or to live, though.
[07:37:55] 	 Heh, my brother lives in NYC. People really say that about there. ;-)
[07:38:31] 	 Enjoying the weather?
[07:38:52] 	 No. Windy as shit the last couple days.
[07:39:02] 	 As it quite often is, unfortunately.
[07:39:11] 	 It's been really windy here too. Not sure why. Fairly warm winter, though.
[07:39:22] 	 Very little snow. It was like 70 last week during the day.
[07:39:28] 	 Crazy shit. Feels very strange.
[07:39:38] 	 Yeah, here too. We had a couple decent snow storms, but it's been 50's and 60's during the day for the most part.
[07:39:51] 	 I feel like those animals before a storm.
[07:39:59] 	 You know this isn't natural and that only bad lies ahead.
[07:40:29] 	 Time to sacrifice a goat to Al Gore.
[07:40:37] 	 And pray that he's wrong.
[07:41:30] 	 Then we're just wasting goats.
[07:41:47] 	 I can live with that.
[07:41:53] 	 Alright.
[07:42:12] 	 I just watched the Manbearpig episode of South Park the other night. If you haven't seen it, you should. ;-)
[07:42:23] 	 03amire80 *  10/trunk/extensions/Narayam/tests/qunit/ext.narayam.tests.js: Test case descriptions.
[07:42:39] 	 "South Park" wears at me a little sometimes.
[07:42:50] 	 Maybe it's the voices.
[07:43:15] 	 Hm. It never got old for me.
[07:44:41] 	 You gonna start editing Wikipedia again? :-)
[07:47:32] 	 New code comment: Nikerabbit; Lots of deprecated code in here. \ Should be something along the lines of \ Linker::link( SpecialPageF; 
[07:47:59] 	 03(NEW) Edit Summary comes as reverting the next edit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34770 major; Huggle: Application; (1994constant)
[07:48:07] 	 Probably not. I do make the occassional edit now and then. Sometimes anonymously. And usually only when I'm feeling particularly anal about bad grammar.
[07:48:16] 	 Heh.
[07:48:19] 	 Wow. Huggle is still being maintained? Jiminey.
[07:48:27] 	 03(mod) Edit Summary comes as reverting the next edit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34770  (10Ankit Maity)
[07:48:36] 	 Gurch is pretty much inactive, though.
[07:48:37] 	 03(mod) Edit Summary comes as reverting the next edit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34770  (10Ankit Maity)
[07:48:42] 	 It's got a team behind it now, I think.
[07:49:36] 	 Well, that's good.
[07:50:08] 	 I'm rather amazed how many of the same folks are still active. And by how many new folks there are.
[07:51:03] 	 03amire80 *  10/trunk/extensions/Narayam/Narayam.hooks.php: Adding the rules tests module.
[07:51:08] * werdna  waves
[07:51:10] 	 oh look, amidaniel 
[07:51:23] 	 wassup, amidaniel?
[07:51:56] 	 As I was saying.... Hey werdna :)
[07:59:14] 	 IRC is forever.
[08:00:09] 	 Every once in a while I practice over telnet, just in case, y'know?
[08:00:18] 	 lol...
[08:00:19] 	 RFC 1459 FTW
[08:00:47] 	 Admitently I sometimes open up telnet for funf
[08:01:40] 	 Looks like the RFC auto-linking was added after ISBN auto-linking.
[08:01:47] 	 Fun fact: ISBN auto-linking dates back to r40.
[08:01:56] 	 We're now at r112580.
[08:01:59] 	 So there.
[08:02:13] 	 Telnet comes in quite handing when trying to debug server apps.
[08:02:16] 	 handy*
[08:02:28] 	 I usually find curl more helpful.
[08:02:54] 	 I like to make debugging as challenging as possible.
[08:03:01] 	 Ah.
[08:03:26] 	 I've been doing all my Web design work in lynx these days for the same reason.
[08:03:35] 	 Nice.
[08:04:03] 	 At least it would discourage all this flash bullshit that's taken over the web.
[08:04:05] 	 I never bothered to fully examine and memorize the curl parameters
[08:04:26] 	 amidaniel: ^_^ on the plus side, Adobe is slowly giving up
[08:04:37] 	 Flash is dying.
[08:04:55] 	 I'm not sure why Google hasn't done them in yet.
[08:05:04] 	 I guess they're half-assed trying.
[08:05:08] 	 It's going to be a slow death.
[08:05:26] 	 I use telnet when I need it since I know the HTTP protocol
[08:05:28] 	 They could just give up on the Web part and focus on the desktop apps.
[08:05:58] 	 If you follow a certain theory one might say that the desktop is dying too
[08:06:25] 	 Most corporate environments pretty much killed it long ago. ;-)
[08:06:38] 	 But Adobe desktop apps are still useful as shit.
[08:07:03] 	 I find Gimp painful.
[08:07:13] 	 It's a lot cheaper though.
[08:07:26] 	 Yes.
[08:07:39] 	 Though I was reading the education rules recently.
[08:07:43] 	 And they're super-lax.
[08:07:56] 	 Now THIS is more horrifying than Flash; http://boingboing.net/2012/02/23/microsoft-google-and-netflix.html
[08:08:18] 	 Hah.
[08:08:19] 	 Yes.
[08:08:25] 	 Oh... Photoshop, etc...?
[08:08:31] 	 That could make sense...
[08:08:50] 	 A) That will never go away. B) They are experimenting in making tablet/mobile versions.
[08:09:19] 	 They released some sort of Photoshop like thing for a tablet, and called it Photoshop.
[08:09:24] 	 Mobile version of Photoshop?
[08:10:00] 	 Photoshp on the iPad. Go figure.
[08:10:19] 	 I thought they were still feuding and making angry faces at each other.
[08:11:45] 	 amidaniel: Nice chatting with you. :-)
[08:11:48] 	 I have to sleep.
[08:11:59] 	 Joan: Likewise :-). Good night.
[08:12:07] 	 Heh. I wish it were 12 here.
[08:12:14] 	 Night.
[08:13:19] 	 who called?
[08:14:39] 	 Hmmm... I can think of one i18n related thing on my mind... but I could swear I had another one besides i18n in es-harmony
[08:15:07] 	 And besides that idea of metadatad i18n
[08:23:36] 	 amidaniel: whilst you are here >.> you should totally commit the mwbot code somewhere (or state that is a free license somewhere so someone else can (i'm pretty sure that is what held us back once before)) 
[08:24:01] 	 also one or two more people on the #mwbot channel access list for the rare occasion there is a troll in there
[08:24:13] 	 would be totally kickass
[08:25:17] 	 03(mod) Some corrupt thumbs remain from initial Swift deploy - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34695  +comment (10ralf)
[08:36:59] 	 p858snake|l: The code was committed somewhere, but I'm not sure where. I don't seem to have a copy of it any more, but Snowolf and others do. It is released under a free license. If that isn't explicitly stated in the code, let me know, and I will make it official.
[08:37:53] 	 03jdlrobson *  10/trunk/extensions/MobileFrontend/stylesheets/ (beta_common.css common.css):
[08:37:53] 	 add RTL styling rules
[08:37:53] 	 this ensures the mobile site renders correctly for languages
[08:37:53] 	 such as hebrew
[08:37:54] 	 Note: we may want to separate this into a separate stylesheet as
[08:37:55] 	 these rules are unused for LTR languages
[08:38:29] 	 amidaniel: it was on a svn that pointed at your domain or something (which is parked), a few of us have the code (or the compiled stuff) that we can chuck up, its just that someone was hesitant when we discussed it one time because we didn't know if it was
[08:39:28] 	 Okay, well let me know. If you shoot me an e-mail at cannon.danielc  gmail, I will respond eventually.
[08:41:49] 	 Hi! How can I define ResourceLoader module which script have dependency on external script (hosted at different site)? Should I use $wgOut->addScript() as it was in old versions?
[08:42:11] 	 p858snake|l: And let me know who you want op'ed in #mwbot, and I'll gladly do it. Apparently your nick is not registered ... :-/
[08:42:24] 	 QuestPC: IIRC RL doesn't have support for external scripts yet
[08:42:27] 	 Can $wgResourceModules accept external scripts (with http prefix) or local-only.
[08:42:56] 	 Dantman: So I have to use addScript() ?
[08:43:07] 	 mhmm
[08:43:24] 	 It is 1.18 wmf1 customer uses.
[08:43:32] 	 amidaniel: p858snake is registered
[08:45:10] 	 Ugh. I've forgotten how to use ChanServ. Just a sec.
[08:45:42] 	 03(mod) Descriptionless files - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32551  +comment (10paul.kaganer)
[08:45:53] 	 There you go.
[08:46:14] 	 thanks
[08:50:07] 	 Okay, not all @wikipedia's should have op, etc., rights on #mwbot
[08:50:10] 	 now*
[08:50:45] 	 Hello
[08:51:00] 	 I added FreeMind extension
[08:51:35] 	 @mediawiki might have worked better for that, although it doesn't really matter since most people don't idle in it
[08:51:44] 	 but I got mm images url with https://http://domain/images/Hello.mm
[08:52:07] 	 03(FIXED) Please install Narayam for Gujarati wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33423  +comment (10Niklas Laxström)
[08:52:19] 	 Done
[08:54:35] 	 03(mod) Build android nightly under a different name - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33804  +comment (10hashar)
[08:54:42] 	 03(mod) Build android nightly under a different name - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33804  (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[08:55:22] 	 03(mod) Templates used in edit summaries are expanded in e-mail notifications - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34714  +comment (10Nemo_bis)
[08:58:34] 	 whi I got url with https://http://
[09:03:10] 	 Chiku: more information about where?
[09:06:20] 	 for images url
[09:06:43] 	 about freemind images url only
[09:11:06] 	 lol 
[09:11:15] 	 https://toolserver.org/~mwbot/logs/%23wikipedia_usability/20090616.txt
[09:16:33] 	 New review: Hashar; "submitting to clean up Gerrit queue" [test/mediawiki/extensions/examples] (master) C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/2806
[09:16:33] 	 Change merged: Hashar; [test/mediawiki/extensions/examples] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/2806
[09:17:00] 	 New review: Hashar; "submitting to clean up Gerrit queue" [test/mediawiki/extensions/examples] (master) C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/2812
[09:17:09] 	 New review: Hashar; "submitting to clean up Gerrit queue" [test/mediawiki/extensions/examples] (master) C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/2812
[09:17:51] 	 New review: Hashar; "submitting to clean up Gerrit queue" [test/mediawiki/extensions/examples] (master) C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/2816
[09:17:51] 	 Change merged: Hashar; [test/mediawiki/extensions/examples] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/2816
[09:19:03] 	 New review: Hashar; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/2796
[09:19:03] 	 Change merged: Hashar; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/2796
[09:20:21] 	 New review: Hashar; "Somehow Gerrit did not verify the change so we can not merge it 8-)" [test/mediawiki/extensions/examples] (master) C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/2812
[09:20:25] 	 Change abandoned: Hashar; "(no reason)" [test/mediawiki/extensions/examples] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/2812
[09:27:02] 	 New code comment: Hashar; Well done Timo!! 8-); 
[09:33:48] 	 03(mod) Accessibility for embedded images - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34750  (10Daniel Kinzler)
[10:05:02] 	 New code comment: Nikerabbit; Can you use two different functions than combining two things into preventUnknownTranslations functi; 
[10:07:02] 	 New code comment: Nikerabbit; Also we could delay loading the list of languages if force is not set. This is only a minor thing.; 
[10:14:39] 	 03(mod) Create a mailing list for the Wikidata project proposal - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34338  +comment (10Daniel Kinzler)
[10:18:34] 	 03(mod) php-1.17 apache errors in logs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34752  (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[10:23:14] 	 03amire80 *  10/trunk/extensions/Narayam/tests/qunit/ext.narayam.rules.tests.js: More tests cases for Malayalam.
[10:29:02] 	 New code comment: Nikerabbit; Changing Link::linkKnown to plain Link:: might cause lots of new queries. In anyway, the non-existin; 
[10:30:17] 	 New code comment: Nikerabbit; When force is active, there is no link to the source text version of the page. I think it should sta; 
[10:31:17] 	 New code comment: Nikerabbit; Please also run stylize.php (preferably before you commit) and remove extra spaces according to codi; 
[10:36:19] 	 03nikerabbit *  10/trunk/extensions/Translate/PageTranslation.i18n.php: Tweak message wording from r112578
[10:41:33] 	 14(WFM) Bug with updating - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34688  +comment (10Michael Movchin)
[10:41:48] 	 03(mod) Bug with updating - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34688  (10Michael Movchin)
[10:44:45] 	 03jdlrobson *  10/trunk/extensions/MobileFrontend/stylesheets/ (8 files): remove definitions that live in common.css
[10:47:48] 	 03(mod) Enabling of autopatroller rights for Sanskrit Wikisource (sa-ws) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34769   +shell (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[10:47:57] 	 03(mod) Enabling of autopatroller rights for Sanskrit Wikisource (sa-ws) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34769  major->normal (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[11:03:56] 	 can anyone help me with how the css classes and id is generated for the SpecialPage:Preferences?? for this bug https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34302
[11:05:12] 	 03hashar *  10/trunk/extensions/DumpHTML/wm-scripts/index.inc:
[11:05:12] 	 Bug 34767 : static.wikipedia.org show useless browsing link
[11:05:12] 	 HTML Dump are no more generated so there is no point in having links
[11:05:12] 	 to non existant places.
[11:06:05] 	 03(mod) http://static.wikipedia.org has two sections Download and Browse. Please delete Browse section because their links are broken, or update it. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34767  +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[11:10:33] 	 New code comment: Hashar; needs dumpHTML to be shipped with 1.19wmf1; 
[11:15:28] 	 03(mod) http://static.wikipedia.org has two sections Download and Browse. Please delete Browse section because their links are broken, or update it. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34767   +platformeng; +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[11:23:32] 	 03saper *  10/trunk/extensions/CheckUser/ (3 files):
[11:23:33] 	 Followup-to: r100506: Improve linking between Special:CheckUser and Special:CheckUserLog
[11:23:33] 	 Improve r112562, implementing suggestion in
[11:23:33] 	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/112562#c31551
[11:23:34] 	 i18n: Change text in "checkuser-log-return" (en,de,pl) since now log is a fully standalone
[11:23:35] 	 special page.
[11:23:36] 	 i18n: Remove "checkuser-log-subpage" as this is no longer necessary nor used.
[11:25:40] 	 is there an extension that will rollback all edits by (a) specified user(s), and then block that user?
[11:26:47] 	 New code comment: Saper; Sees like it is SpecialPage::getTitleFor, improved in r112586. \ Is there any way to improve \ 
[11:29:43] 	 03(mod) Categories added to user pages by Babel in pt.wiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34728  +comment (10malafaya)
[11:32:59] 	 03(mod) Make SVN Documentation be indexed by Google - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28469   +platformeng; +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[11:46:38] 	 03siebrand *  10/trunk/translatewiki/ (6 files in 2 dirs): Update year.
[11:56:01] 	 03nikerabbit *  10/trunk/extensions/Translate/ (6 files in 3 dirs):
[11:56:01] 	 Fix statistics tables for aggregate group numbers.
[11:56:01] 	 Use hooks to consolidate the logic in one place.
[11:56:01] 	 Remaining problem is the number of queries done.
[11:56:02] 	 We need some kind of batch queries here.
[11:57:02] 	 03siebrand *  10/trunk/phase3/ (4 files in 3 dirs): (bug 34702) More localised parentheses. Patch contributed by Yusuke Matsubara.
[11:58:14] 	 03(mod) Messages of log entries should support GENDER - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24156  +comment (10danny.leinad)
[11:58:38] 	 03(FIXED) Use localised parentheses in Special:Contributions, RecentChanges and ShortPages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34702  +comment (10Siebrand)
[11:58:57] 	 03(mod) Use localised parentheses in Special:Contributions, RecentChanges and ShortPages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34702  -need-review -patch +reviewed (10Siebrand)
[11:59:46] 	 03(mod) Messages of log entries should support GENDER - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24156  +comment (10danny.leinad)
[12:01:02] 	 New code comment: Nikerabbit; Can you provide full context? Why do you want to use linker there?; 
[12:01:12] 	 03(mod) Messages of log entries should support GENDER - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24156  +comment (10danny.leinad)
[12:02:42] 	 03(mod) Messages of log entries should support GENDER - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24156  +comment (10niklas.laxstrom)
[12:07:07] 	 03(mod) Redirects converted to articles should appear on Special:Newpages for patrol - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29286  (10mybugs.mail)
[12:07:07] 	 03(mod) New page log can be fooled into not showing a new page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/16705  (10mybugs.mail)
[12:10:19] 	 03nikerabbit *  10/trunk/extensions/Translate/utils/TranslateMetadata.php: Whitespace cleanup
[12:22:17] 	 New code comment: Saper; It's in [https://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/CheckUser/CheckUser_body.php?vi; 
[12:31:38] 	 03(ASSIGNED) Edit Summary comes as reverting the next edit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34770  +comment (10Michael Movchin)
[12:33:41] 	 03(FIXED) Edit Summary comes as reverting the next edit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34770  +comment (10Michael Movchin)
[12:36:25] 	 03(mod) Edit Summary comes as reverting the next edit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34770  (10Michael Movchin)
[12:41:28] 	 03siebrand *  10/trunk/phase3/includes/ (9 files in 3 dirs): (bug 34702) More localised parentheses.
[12:45:21] 	 How would I go about adding a "nuke" link to the group of links after the username on recent changes page, which links to special:nuke (nuke extension)?
[12:45:50] 	 as in, which part of the API docs should I investigate first?
[12:47:07] 	 New patchset: ArielGlenn; "email notification on failure can be turned off via config" [operations/dumps] (ariel) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/2822
[12:49:57] 	 hi ^demon 
[12:50:05] <^demon>	 Hello.
[12:50:33] 	 i sent u mail one day back regarding the extension that i want to build for mediawiki
[12:51:06] <^demon>	 Yes, I apologize for not getting back to you. I've been very busy.
[12:51:38] 	 ^demon : np, i just wanted your opinion 
[12:52:10] <^demon>	 Well I think what we discussed on IRC is a good idea. But to be perfectly honest, I don't have the time to mentor this project this year (I just suggested it because I was interested).
[12:52:26] <^demon>	 I know John Du Hart was talking to me about the same thing, so you might want to try talking to him and share ideas.
[12:52:38] 	 03(mod) Use localised parentheses in Special:Contributions, RecentChanges and ShortPages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34702  +comment (10s.mazeland)
[12:53:15] 	 ^demon : could you just look at this page and let me know if i am taking the right approach for this extension https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/ConventionExtension
[12:53:30] <^demon>	 I saw that, that's awesome that you've already gone into so much detail.
[12:53:46] <^demon>	 I'd suggest moving the page to mediawiki.org though, we typically manage GSoC from there.
[12:53:58] 	 ^demon : okay i would 
[12:54:03] <^demon>	 I can import it with history.
[12:54:05] <^demon>	 One moment
[12:54:26] 	 whats his IRC nickname ?
[12:55:12] <^demon>	 johnduhart :)
[12:55:26] <^demon>	 Alright, now it's at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/ConventionExtension
[12:55:29] <^demon>	 With all 87 revisions.
[12:55:56] 	 ^demon : thanks !
[12:55:58] 	 03(mod) Can't authenticate using my mother language username (UNICODE) when I only have (a public) access to Wikipedia with an ASCII (english) keyboard - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34590  +comment (10nicolas.brouard)
[12:57:07] 	 03(FIXED) Patch for /trunk/huggle/Localization/kn.txt - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34621  +comment (10Michael Movchin)
[12:57:16] 	 ^demon : could you tell me the difference between a WikiPage and an Article class ?
[12:58:19] <^demon>	 WikiPage has been split off from Article. Article has to do with displaying the page and executing actions like action=delete on them. WikiPage is more of the backend for an article.
[12:58:30] <^demon>	 Like "actually do the delete at a code level"
[12:58:46] <^demon>	 Article -> UI, WikiPage -> backend
[12:58:55] <^demon>	 Or at least that's how I understand it.
[12:58:57] 	 03(mod) Can't authenticate using my mother language username (UNICODE) when I only have (a public) access to Wikipedia with an ASCII (english) keyboard - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34590  +comment (10Nicolas Brouard)
[12:59:23] <^demon>	 chughakshay16: But WikiPage is pretty new, so the separation isn't totally complete.
[12:59:41] 	 ^demon : so Article class is all i need 
[12:59:50] <^demon>	 Possibly, depends on what you're doing.
[13:00:41] 	 ^demon : i am interested in dealing with the text on the page
[13:01:01] <^demon>	 You could do something like $article->getText(), yeah.
[13:01:21] 	 ^demon : yeah that's exactly what i have seen in other extensions
[13:01:57] 	 ^demon : so getText() would get me the result from a database . right ?
[13:02:15] <^demon>	 getText() should get the latest page text, yeah.
[13:02:23] <^demon>	 Possibly cached though.
[13:02:59] 	 ^demon : but just nw u pointed out that Article has more to do with the UI and less to do with the backend
[13:03:07] 	 ^demon :|
[13:04:33] <^demon>	 Right, but not too long ago Article did lots of backend stuff too.
[13:04:42] <^demon>	 It's kind of a mess right now :)
[13:05:32] 	 ^demon : okay could you just point one example where i should use WikiPage and not Article
[13:05:39] 	 ^demon : ?
[13:09:35] 	 How would I go about adding a "nuke" link to the group of links after the username on recent changes page, which links to special:nuke (nuke extension)?
[13:09:55] 	 would I have to hack core, or is there some API function I can use to do this?
[13:11:53] 	 johnduhart : hi, i needed your opinion on something. :)
[13:14:08] 	 03(mod) thumbnail generator fails with a % in file name (update image magik) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/26233  +comment (10jelle.zijlstra)
[13:20:42] 	 johnduhart : ??
[13:21:00] 	 New patchset: ArielGlenn; "skip lines til we get to the pageid; no need for new state for this" [operations/dumps] (ariel) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/2823
[13:21:04] 	 03gwicke *  10/trunk/extensions/VisualEditor/tests/parser/ (dumpGrepper.js parserTests.js): Implement onlyinclude transformer. 254 tests passing.
[13:21:47] 	 hi sumanah ;-|
[13:21:51] 	 hi chughakshay16 
[13:22:57] 	 one doubt !! whats the difference between an Article and a Wikipage class ??
[13:23:44] 	 more specifically could you just give me an example of when i should choose which one ? 
[13:23:57] 	 i was talking to ^demon about this thing only 
[13:24:37] 	 03gwicke *  10/trunk/extensions/VisualEditor/modules/parser/ (5 files): Actually commit onlyinclude, as already announced in r112592.
[13:24:43] 	 just so you know, chughakshay16, in Indian English you call that a "doubt" but in US and most other English we call it a question
[13:25:16] 	 suamanah : will keep that in mind from next time onwards :)
[13:25:52] 	 chughakshay16: "doubt" implies that you think something is wrong or incorrect, or you think someone is lying to you.
[13:26:11] 	 I think the feeling of uncertainty is the same but the connotations are very different.
[13:26:17] 	 hi sumanah
[13:26:20] 	 hi nischayn22 
[13:27:08] 	 sumanah : okay :-|
[13:28:15] 	 sumanah : can i ask you something not related to code ?
[13:28:22] 	 I was trying to solve a few bugs that involved special pages..I read the manual on it http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Special_pages but still couldn't understand how it works..Preferences and watchlist in particular..need help
[13:28:37] 	 ^demon: dulystarred
[13:28:37] 	 chughakshay16: sure. I may not answer, of course. :)
[13:29:04] <^demon>	 apergos: I was baffled at the lack of bug filed for this even.
[13:29:12] 	 sumanah : how does it feel to work for something that so many people use everyday ?
[13:29:32] 	 unbelievable that it's never been submitted
[13:29:57] 	 sumanah : this thought has always amazed me , just for example how would someone feel if he/she works for facebook ?
[13:29:59] 	 nischayn22: Go ahead and point at the first bit of code that you are having trouble understanding, and formulate your understanding of how it *could* work, and try going forward with that assumption and playing with it.  If that doesn't make sense, ask us here
[13:30:10] 	 chughakshay16: It's overwhelming sometimes!
[13:30:32] 	 chughakshay16: I get a lot of pride.
[13:30:44] <^demon>	 apergos: Almost all the highly-starred bugs are "Accepted" and in some state of progress, so I'm hoping to upvote this and show them we really really want it.
[13:30:54] 	 sumanah : because every change you (or the organization) make it gets reflected all over the web
[13:31:26] 	 chughakshay16: And sometimes when I am in public, I look around and think about how many people all around me just reflexively depend on something I help provide, and it's like I'm a spy or a king or a movie star walking incognito
[13:31:34] 	 forward it to mediawiki-i18n
[13:31:47] 	 someone there will likely try to send it on to translators-l
[13:31:48] 	 chughakshay16: in January, on the day we had the SOPA-related blackout, someone said it was like a power blackout.
[13:32:02] 	 hopefully we get enough momentum out of that to make a dent
[13:32:17] 	 sumanah : currently i am working as an intern in IT company, and i not at all get the satisfaction from the work that i do here
[13:32:36] 	 yes I am doing that..still I would ask if there is documentation for all the special pages?
[13:32:55] 	 I don't know. Look on mediawiki.org .
[13:33:07] 	 nischayn22 : http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Special_pages this might help u
[13:33:30] 	 chughakshay16: Yeah, I've been an intern and worked at other places, and it's never been like this. :-)
[13:34:00] 	 chughakshay16: I have mentioned above that it wasn't sufficient help :)
[13:34:23] 	 sumanah : and then i look at mozilla, wikipedia and everything appears so much different !
[13:35:05] 	 nischyan22 : i didnt see what you wrote before..i thought it helped me so it might help u 
[13:35:06] 	 nischayn22: Again: try asking a *specific* question.  Point to a specific thing you don't understand, and that will let people help you better.
[13:35:40] 	 nischyan22 ; ;-|
[13:36:20] 	 nischayn22: "I don't understand how a Special Page works" provides fewer handles for others to grasp than "why is this function doing x instead of y?  shouldn't it be like z?"
[13:36:44] 	 sumanah: I will learn the culture in some time..Hopefully!
[13:36:54] 	 nischayn22: imagine if I came to you and said: please explain love, or India, or how the human body works.
[13:37:20] 	 sumanah : you never answered my question about Article and WikiPage class :)
[13:37:26] 	 chughakshay16: I don't know the answer!
[13:37:38] 	 sumanah : okay !
[13:37:44] * sumanah  skims https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:MediaWiki_architecture
[13:37:51] 	 sumanah: I can speak a lot about India but still won't be specific..so yes you are right mam
[13:38:25] 	 chughakshay16: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_become_a_MediaWiki_hacker/Workshop might help you in https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_become_a_MediaWiki_hacker/Workshop#Code_Tour 
[13:38:50] 	 chughakshay16: I wanted to know how the div in the html file is created for the special page preferences
[13:39:12] 	 nischayn22: I hesitate to give you yet more Eric Raymond to read, because he can be harsh and he thinks all hackers should be like him, but there's still worthwhile stuff here: http://catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[13:39:44] 	 nischyan22: just call the OutputPage:addHTML() function
[13:41:05] 	 sumanah: seems like a good reading..thanks
[13:41:08] 	 hello, does anyone have experience of mulitlanguage wiki?
[13:41:17] 	 and pass on the HTML string that you want to add or you could first call getHTML() function and from there you could modify the DOM just like you would have done it otherwise
[13:41:19] 	 nischayn22: Great! Now, please *actually read it.* :-)
[13:41:31] 	 n0nick: well, there's Wikipedia :-)
[13:41:45] 	 n0nick: do you mean multiple languages on one wiki? Wikimedia Commons does that
[13:42:34] 	 sumanah : i have gone through almost all the documentation 
[13:42:38] 	 i want a mulitlanguage wiki with 1 accountmanagment.... 
[13:42:39] 	 regarding this 
[13:42:51] 	 i have found only this: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Wiki_family
[13:43:05] 	 chughakshay16: ah, ok.  Then I should just step back and let more experienced people help you out.
[13:43:31] 	 sumanah : even ^demon explained me a little bit about it 
[13:43:33] 	 (question: "what's the difference between an Article and a Wikipage class? more specifically could you just give me an example of when i should choose which one?"
[13:44:00] 	 I guess you could look through the existing code for examples....
[13:44:02] 	 !grep
[13:44:02] 	 Try ack instead: http://betterthangrep.com/ It's mostly the same syntax as grep, but much faster.
[13:44:21] 	 sumanah : i have seen some extensions where they make use of Article class and i get the logic behind it
[13:44:31] 	 oh, and chughakshay16, regarding your question about how it feels, this helps: https://blog.wikimedia.org/2012/02/24/thank-you-to-all-who-have-contributed-in-this-great-work/
[13:44:47] <^demon>	 His server is down :\
[13:46:56] 	 sumanah : there is one comment on that page which says "internet without wikipedia is like earth without water."
[13:46:56] <^demon>	 !grep del
[13:46:56] 	 Successfully removed keyword: grep
[13:46:56] 	 chughakshay16: yeah. It's evocative.
[13:46:56] <^demon>	 !grep is Try ack instead, it's mostly the same syntax as grep, but much faster 
[13:46:56] 	 Successfully added keyword: grep
[13:48:55] 	 03gwicke *  10/trunk/extensions/VisualEditor/tests/parser/dumpGrepper.js: Finish color highlighting for dump grepper / fix broken commit r112592.
[13:49:05] 	 sumanah : well wikipedia has definitely helped me a lot of my assignments :-|
[13:49:22] 	 *with a lot of my assignments
[13:49:36] 	 Great!
[13:52:40] 	 sumanah: i want to install 3 wikis (language1, language2 and images) but how it work that user automatically registered in all wikis? 
[13:53:28] 	 n0nick: you may want to ask this in the #mediawiki-i18n channel, which focuses on internationalisation and language issues
[13:53:51] 	 ok thanks
[13:56:09] 	 New patchset: ArielGlenn; "better naming convention for multistream index file" [operations/dumps] (ariel) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/2824
[13:57:43] 	 New review: ArielGlenn; "(no comment)" [operations/dumps] (ariel); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/2822
[13:59:07] 	 New review: ArielGlenn; "(no comment)" [operations/dumps] (ariel); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/2823
[14:00:28] 	 !family n0nick 
[14:02:27] 	 To run multiple wikis, you can simply install MediaWiki in different folders, with different databases or in one with database prefixes. You can also have multiple wikis using a single installation: 
[14:02:27] 	 that page should also describe shared login
[14:02:27] 	 New review: ArielGlenn; "(no comment)" [operations/dumps] (ariel); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/2822
[14:02:27] 	 n0nick, sumanah: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Shared_database#The_simplest_setup:_A_shared_user_table
[14:02:27] 	 New review: ArielGlenn; "(no comment)" [operations/dumps] (ariel); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/2823
[14:02:27] 	 n0nick: You can use a shared user table (which is the nicest option) or you can run CentralAuth
[14:02:27] 	 !e CentralAuth | n0nick
[14:02:27] 	 n0nick: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CentralAuth
[14:02:38] 	 !sharedlogins | n0nick
[14:02:38] 	 n0nick: MediaWiki can be configured to share user login data between between multiple wikis. See .
[14:02:40] 	 ah.. thank you
[14:03:01] 	 New review: ArielGlenn; "(no comment)" [operations/dumps] (ariel); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/2822
[14:03:14] 	 n0nick, sumanah: also http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Wiki_family#Shared_Users_and_permissions
[14:03:20] 	 (that page needs a rewrite)
[14:03:52] 	 Amgine: I hereby request that you rewrite that page.
[14:04:01] 	 New review: ArielGlenn; "(no comment)" [operations/dumps] (ariel); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/2824
[14:04:08] 	 n0nick: you can also do fancy stuff like ldap based accounts, if you like...
[14:05:12] 	 p858snake|l: centralauth is really only useful if you already have multiple wikis with separate accounts, and want to merge them, right?
[14:05:17] 	 New review: ArielGlenn; "(no comment)" [operations/dumps] (ariel); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/2758
[14:05:18] 	 Change merged: ArielGlenn; [operations/dumps] (ariel) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/2823
[14:05:18] 	 Change merged: ArielGlenn; [operations/dumps] (ariel) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/2822
[14:05:19] 	 Change merged: ArielGlenn; [operations/dumps] (ariel) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/2824
[14:05:19] 	 Change merged: ArielGlenn; [operations/dumps] (ariel) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/2758
[14:05:27] 	 i will test shared database.. 
[14:05:33] 	 p858snake|l: i don't see the advantage of using central auth from the start
[14:05:40] 	 sharing a user table seems much simpler and cleaner
[14:05:58] 	 Daniel_WMDE: there isn't, but some people still do
[14:06:06] 	 New review: ArielGlenn; "(no comment)" [operations/dumps] (ariel); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/2684
[14:06:16] 	 and you will notice i did say the shared table was the nicest way to do it
[14:06:50] 	 thank you and goodbye, i want to test^^
[14:07:12] 	 p858snake|l: sure, just wanted to hear if there are any other reasons to use centralauth
[14:07:27] 	 New review: ArielGlenn; "(no comment)" [operations/dumps] (ariel); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/2683
[14:07:27] 	 Change merged: ArielGlenn; [operations/dumps] (ariel) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/2684
[14:07:28] 	 Change merged: ArielGlenn; [operations/dumps] (ariel) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/2683
[14:07:35] 	 Daniel_WMDE: because people still do for some weird reason
[14:07:48] 	 yea, i was hoping you could tell me why  :)
[14:14:52] 	 03gwicke *  10/trunk/extensions/VisualEditor/tests/parser/ (dumpGrepPatterns/martian-endtags.sh dumpGrepper.js): Tweak martian regexp and grepper output format.
[14:14:52] 	 New patchset: Siebrand; "Checking Chad's Fu." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/2825
[14:15:54] 	 New patchset: Siebrand; "MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/2826
[14:17:15] 	 Change abandoned: Demon; "(no reason)" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/2825
[14:17:16] 	 Change abandoned: Demon; "(no reason)" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/2826
[14:18:11] 	 New patchset: Siebrand; "Just some friendly advice ;)" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/2827
[14:19:41] 	 New review: Demon; "Har har har har, you're so funny Siebrand." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/2827
[14:22:11] * apergos  looks in at the very weird set of changes
[14:22:22] <^demon|away>	 Those shouldn't have happened.
[14:24:39] 	 03gwicke *  10/trunk/extensions/VisualEditor/tests/parser/dumpGrepper.js: Improve grepper documentation.
[14:24:44] 	 03(NEW) Please upload Barack Obama's SOTU & weekly video addresses from February 2012 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34771 normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (odder.wiki)
[14:28:02] 	 Hi, I was trying to figure out why each Apache process is taking 220MB and check pmap for a process and noticed that modules were redundant, for e.g., http://pastebin.com/Uzk8RNrE
[14:29:18] 	 03jeroendedauw *  10/trunk/extensions/EducationProgram/ (7 files in 3 dirs): some refactoring
[14:30:33] 	 Kr1ks, #php ?
[14:31:50] 	 MaxSem: That's just an example which happens to be with php module, I see the same with many modules, when I saw the pmap on the apache process
[14:32:27] 	 then #apache or whatever, this is a channel specifically for MediaWiki
[14:32:38] 	 MaxSem: another case, http://pastebin.com/0c1LCiEu
[14:33:06] 	 hey, did you read what I wrote?
[14:36:08] 	 MaxSem: My question is why are modules loaded multiple times
[14:36:30] 	 MaxSem: Got it
[14:39:17] 	 Kr1ks, please understand - I'm not suppressing anything or "one word of offtopic and we shoot you" policy. you will simply receive better answers in channels intended for such questions
[14:40:37] 	 MaxSem: I totally understand, I found this issue with my mediawiki installation (a LAMP setup), so was curious if some here might have seen it, Thanks, I am trying #httpd
[14:41:07] 	 03(mod) Documentation should be clear what Huggle does - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34648  +comment (10Michael Movchin)
[14:42:14] 	 03maxsem *  10/trunk/phase3/includes/db/ (7 files): Follow-up r112565: fix code duplication
[14:42:16] 	 ^demon|away, ^^^
[14:43:11] <^demon|away>	 Looks good, thanks
[14:43:54] 	 03emsmith *  10/trunk/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5/api/ApiArticleFeedbackv5Utils.php: bug 34090 - follow up to r111211 - rename things to make them "less confusing" - only they're still confusing - comment copiously, return if the pageid is bogus
[14:45:38] 	 Change abandoned: Demon; "(no reason)" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/2827
[14:49:12] 	 03(mod) [Regression] IRC string output for log messages no longer compatible - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34508  +comment (10hashar)
[14:50:02] 	 New code comment: Elizabeth M Smith; What I need to do is rather confusing - the permalink structure of all feedback is $string_title_of_; 
[14:52:30] 	 Krinkle: could you look at a problem on nlwiki?
[14:53:51] 	 Krinkle: actually, siebrand tells me he has already asked you
[15:03:39] 	 ^demon|away: I missed the git session last night, so maybe this was answered then, but when will I be able to commit to git?  Can I submit patches via gerrit now?
[15:03:45] 	 hello guys
[15:03:55] 	 butter|fly: hey
[15:04:52] 	 I've got a question: is it possible to include a category in a normal page, like include in php?
[15:05:31] <^demon|away>	 hexmode: To answer your second question, no. Trying to deal with diverging branches is a pain, so I'm not going to accept stuff into gerrit until the switchover.
[15:05:46] <^demon|away>	 Although we're almost ready for people to start cloning so they can work locally in preparation of the changeover.
[15:05:53] 	 ^demon|away: :(
[15:06:07] <^demon|away>	 To answer your first question: the date's been pushed back, check wikitech-l.
[15:07:12] 	 03(mod) Allow groups to inherit permissions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31937  -need-review -patch ; +comment (10Max Semenik)
[15:08:06] 	 03nikerabbit *  10/trunk/extensions/Translate/_autoload.php: Switch to imho more readable syntax
[15:08:25] 	 yeah, I was thinking that I could start separate branches now for patches.  Maybe I can keep the branches locally.
[15:08:44] 	 ^demon|away: What do you think of local branches and then submit a bunch when gerrit is ready?
[15:09:00] <^demon|away>	 That sounds fine, once you're able to clone a proper repo :)
[15:09:08] <^demon|away>	 I wouldn't do it based on the broken clones I have up now
[15:09:48] 	 ah... well, I can at least figure out some sort of workflow
[15:10:34] 	 03mah *  10/trunk/extensions/Vector/modules/ext.vector.collapsibleNav.js:
[15:10:34] 	 fixes 34450 - at least, patch with mybug's patch. Closing the bug so
[15:10:34] 	 that separate reports can be filed for each problem.
[15:12:18] 	 Project MediaWiki-sqlite-phpunit build #8083: FAILURE in 58 sec: https://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/MediaWiki-sqlite-phpunit/8083/
[15:12:57] <^demon|away>	 hexmode: I've got all the wmf-deployed extensions dumped to git, just need to repack them before pushing so people can start cloning.
[15:13:01] <^demon|away>	 Waiting on better hardware :)
[15:13:54] 	 03nikerabbit *  10/trunk/extensions/Translate/_autoload.php: Alphabetisize and tweak some block comments
[15:14:07] 	 ^demon|away: what about core?  I know it isn't kept in sync, but could I use the clone I have?
[15:14:22] <^demon|away>	 I wouldn't. That clone is kind of messed up.
[15:14:25] <^demon|away>	 Tags are borked.
[15:14:35] <^demon|away>	 I'm trying to fix that still.
[15:16:23] 	 03(FIXED) Probable Javascript loading issues (navigation and tabbing issues, multiple browsers) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34450  +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[15:16:43] 	 yay
[15:16:48] 	 sumanah: I cloned mediawiki/core but (1) the last commit seems old (2) there's no branch at all (3) git-review -s doesn't work: No '.gitreview' file found in this repository. We don't know where your gerrit is. Please manually create a remote named gerrit and try again.
[15:17:13] 	 Project MediaWiki-sqlite-phpunit build #8084: STILL FAILING in 53 sec: https://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/MediaWiki-sqlite-phpunit/8084/
[15:17:17] 	 liangent: you're probably in the wrong directory
[15:17:21] * sumanah  is only the 10th-most-knowledgable person in this room about Gerrit or Git problems
[15:17:58] 	 chrismcmahon: which dir should I be in?
[15:17:59] 	 liangent: please do not ask me for help regarding technical issues with Git or Gerrit, as I will almost certainly not be able to help you.
[15:19:11] 	 liangent: the directory above /.git
[15:19:31] 	 03(mod) Posting a reply to a thread does not display post after hitting save if number of replies is > number of replies to show in pref - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34765  +comment (10niklas.laxstrom)
[15:20:06] 	 liangent: example: 
[15:20:11] 	 ~/mediawiki/gitdemo > git review -s
[15:20:11] 	 No '.gitreview' file found in this repository.
[15:20:12] 	 We don't know where your gerrit is. Please manually create 
[15:20:12] 	 a remote named gerrit and try again.
[15:20:12] 	 ~/mediawiki/gitdemo > cd examples/
[15:20:13] 	 ~/mediawiki/gitdemo/examples(master) > git review -s
[15:20:13] 	 ~/mediawiki/gitdemo/examples(master) >
[15:20:26] <^demon|away>	 What does git status give you?
[15:21:10] 	 ^demon|away: $ git status
[15:21:10] 	 # On branch master
[15:21:10] 	 nothing to commit (working directory clean)
[15:21:29] <^demon|away>	 Well master's the only branch right now, core's broken.
[15:21:33] <^demon|away>	 And there's no tags either.
[15:21:48] 	 03emsmith *  10/trunk/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5/api/ (2 files): bug 34090 - Add the logging of automated hide/show errors by the "Article Feedback V5" fake user
[15:23:28] 	 ^demon|away: so if I want to try it I should clone an extension?
[15:27:25] 	 Project MediaWiki-sqlite-phpunit build #8085: STILL FAILING in 1 min 6 sec: https://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/MediaWiki-sqlite-phpunit/8085/
[15:27:43] 	 03(mod) Upload form should make file extensions lowercase automatically - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29284  -need-review -patch +reviewed (10Max Semenik)
[15:35:01] 	 ^demon|away: $ git review
[15:35:01] 	 fatal: Upload denied for project 'test/mediawiki/extensions/examples'
[15:35:01] 	 fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly
[15:37:50] 	 03(NEW) importImages.php doesn't work if dbname is passed parameterless via mwscript - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34772 normal; MediaWiki: Maintenance scripts; (sam)
[15:38:19] 	 03emsmith *  10/trunk/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5/api/ApiFlagFeedbackArticleFeedbackv5.php: bug 34090 - can't believe there were no permissions checks in this - only delete group can delete and reset oversight, hide group can hide and request oversight, everybody else can helpful/unhelpful and flag as abuse
[15:38:42] <^demon|away>	 liangent: Try again?
[15:39:20] 	 03(NEW) importImages broken on 1.19 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34773 normal; MediaWiki: Images and files; (sam)
[15:39:21] 	 03(mod) Please upload Barack Obama's SOTU & weekly video addresses from February 2012 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34771  (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[15:40:22] 	 ^demon|away: no difference
[15:40:28] 	 03(mod) Please upload Barack Obama's SOTU & weekly video addresses from February 2012 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34771  +comment (10sam)
[15:40:34] 	 03(mod) Make SVN Documentation be indexed by Google - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28469  +comment (10bawolff+wn)
[15:41:01] <^demon|away>	 liangent: I'm actually going away now. I'll check in later.
[15:41:56] 	 no one an idea on my "problem"?
[15:42:23] 	 Project MediaWiki-sqlite-phpunit build #8086: STILL FAILING in 1 min 3 sec: https://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/MediaWiki-sqlite-phpunit/8086/
[15:43:28] 	 butter|fly: you want to include the content listing of a category on a page?
[15:43:45] * Nikerabbit  kicks codurr 
[15:43:46] 	 Puck you.
[15:43:48] 	 Daniel_WMDE: yes, thats it
[15:43:54] 	 butter|fly: you can (ab)use the categorytree extension to do that
[15:44:13] 	 03nikerabbit *  10/trunk/extensions/Translate/Translate.php: Ping r112600 - use it here too
[15:44:21] 	 03(mod) thumbnail generator fails with a % in file name (update image magik) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/26233  +comment (10bawolff+wn)
[15:44:51] 	 Daniel_WMDE: okay I'll try it...
[15:45:21] 	 Nikerabbit, https://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/MediaWiki-sqlite-phpunit/8086/console seems to fail due to Translate
[15:46:11] 	 MaxSem: I know, that commit should fix it
[15:46:11] 	 03nikerabbit *  10/trunk/extensions/Translate/ (PageTranslation.i18n.php tag/PageTranslationHooks.php): Make the zero languages link to translation view
[15:46:12] 	 oh heh, you already fixed it:)
[15:46:28] 	 Are any semiofficial scripts available to automatically keep mediawiki up to date? I couldn't find anything reputable from google.
[15:47:32] 	 New code comment: Nikerabbit; Fixed in r112606.; 
[15:48:02] 	 mirage335, up to date as if to trunk or to latest release?
[15:48:09] 	 latest release
[15:48:12] 	 mirage335: check it out from svn (or git soon) and have cron job to update it?
[15:48:43] 	 I just want to make sure the wiki is update for security reasons.
[15:49:38] 	 Yippie, build fixed!
[15:49:39] 	 Project MediaWiki-sqlite-phpunit build #8087: FIXED in 3 min 19 sec: https://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/MediaWiki-sqlite-phpunit/8087/
[15:49:59] 	 I could just write a shell script that updates the wiki with a fresh tarball, does a backup, and executes update.php, but I'm concerned that might break at some point.
[15:50:10] 	 Something semi-official or at least reputable would be nice.
[15:50:43] 	 03(mod) importImages broken on 1.19 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34773  +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[15:51:04] 	 03(mod) importImages on Fenari is broken on 1.19wmf1 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34773  summary (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[15:51:15] 	 mirage335, extensions may need an update, too
[15:51:33] 	 03(mod) importImages.php doesn't work if dbname is passed parameterless via mwscript - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34772  (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[15:52:02] 	 I know, and I plan to avoid them when possible.
[15:52:03] 	 Daniel_WMDE: that works...
[15:52:09] 	 thanks alot
[15:52:12] 	 good :)
[15:52:34] 	 Basically though, I get the idea that no one has made this process automatic. That sucks.
[15:53:13] 	 Indeed, it's not a simple task
[15:55:20] 	 It's hazardous actually. This way, I don't know when I'll have to drop everything and go patch up the wiki.
[15:55:43] 	 Join the announce mailing lists
[15:55:56] 	 It's not as if wordpress will do updates without pressing the button
[15:56:28] 	 host on wordpress.com and it will do updates without that
[15:56:45] * Reedy  eyes domas
[15:57:18] 	 I do it that way
[15:57:37] 	 03nikerabbit *  10/trunk/extensions/Translate/tag/PageTranslationHooks.php: Whitespace cleanup, comment tweaking
[15:58:12] 	 host on wikimedia, and it will update once a year!
[15:58:17] 	 New code comment: Nikerabbit; Actually we can't, since we need to always show the languages regardless of force.; 
[15:58:45] 	 mediawiki/wikimedia should win a gold medal in slowest release push cycle
[15:59:11] * yuvipanda  murmurs 'Hurd'
[16:01:06] 	 03(NEW) Cursor bug on mouseover - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34774 normal; MediaWiki extensions: ArticleFeedbackv5; (okeyes)
[16:01:16] 	 03(mod) Cursor bug on mouseover - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34774   +aftv5-1.5 (10Oliver Keyes)
[16:01:29] 	 03(mod) Changing the "help" link on the feedback page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34761   +aftv5-1.5 (10Oliver Keyes)
[16:08:44] 	 03jdlrobson *  10/trunk/extensions/MobileFrontend/stylesheets/ (beta_common.css common.css):
[16:08:45] 	 show external link icon next to external links
[16:08:45] 	 this addresses bug 30831
[16:09:41] 	 03(FIXED) Distinguish external links from internal links. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30831  +comment (10Jon)
[16:14:49] 	 03jeroendedauw *  10/trunk/extensions/EducationProgram/ (4 files in 2 dirs): initial work on undeletion action
[16:18:32] 	 Hello. I am searching for the right wiki for me. I looked arround, used the wiki matrix but there are still some open questions. I hope someone in here can help me.
[16:19:00] 	 1. I would like to have multiple wikis for different projects. Is it possible to have a wiki that contains sub wikis?
[16:19:16] 	 Mammutpanzer: no.
[16:19:22] 	 !wikifamily | Mammutpanzer
[16:19:23] 	 Mammutpanzer: To run multiple wikis, you can simply install MediaWiki in different folders, with different databases or in one with database prefixes. You can also have multiple wikis using a single installation: 
[16:19:33] 	 Mammutpanzer: but you can combine wikis to a wiki family, kind of like wikipedia does
[16:19:39] 	 Right.
[16:19:41] 	 yea, what Yaron just said
[16:19:42] 	 you can also store things in different namespaces
[16:20:21] 	 (also, Mammutpanzer, welcome :-) )
[16:20:27] 	 thanks :D
[16:21:59] 	 Okay. Just for your info. I rented a server (entire server) and I am learnig to be an admin. There are different things I want to install on the server. One is a wiki. However I am not sure if media wiki is the right thing. I read this phrase "The program is primarily developed to run on a large server farm for Wikipedia and its sister projects. Features, performance, configurability, 
[16:21:59] 	 ease-of-use, etc are designed in this light; if your needs are radically different the software might not be appropriate for you." Now I wonder is mediawiki the right choice maybe some of you can help me
[16:22:05] 	 ?
[16:22:22] 	 03(mod) Changing the "help" link on the feedback page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34761  (10Fabrice Florin)
[16:22:23] 	 03emsmith *  10/trunk/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5/ (3 files in 2 dirs):
[16:22:23] 	 bug 34090 - change all sql updates to use escaping except for explicitly
[16:22:23] 	 commented items, add logging of id of doer and timestamp for last
[16:22:23] 	 hide/delete(oversight) of a feedback item, note this is not yet hooked into the
[16:22:24] 	 front end js
[16:23:11] 	 03(mod) Cursor bug on mouseover - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34774  (10Fabrice Florin)
[16:24:27] 	 Mammutpanzer - I would say it is.
[16:24:42] 	 But of course, everyone on this channel is biased.
[16:25:24] 	 MediaWiki is very popular, though, even outside of Wikipedia and the like.
[16:32:02] 	 New code comment: Hashar; 1.19wmf1 too ? :); 
[16:33:01] 	 Yaron well I am new to all this especially the admin stuff. So I need some opinions. I know everyone in here is biased but I think the users in here have experience with wikimedia and can tell me if there are things I need to think about when installing wikimedia on just one server (that also forfills other roles) than on a server farm
[16:33:55] 	 Mammutpanzer: I do not think you should think about much anything. Most likely Mediawiki will just work as expected on your server.
[16:34:09] 	 Yeah.
[16:34:12] 	 The quoted phrase scares me a bit. I don't want it to be super slow or laggy because I don't own let' say 10 servers that are connected to each other. 
[16:34:23] 	 Mammutpanzer: Just check you have the required PHP and database installed.
[16:34:24] 	 So you think it works even with one server and other apps running?
[16:34:34] 	 Mammutpanzer: Yes.
[16:34:40] 	 Great :=)
[16:37:09] 	 Mammutpanzer, it will work fine
[16:37:16] 	 there are many setups like that
[16:37:51] 	 you will get greater perfomance taking advantage of the different caching layers MW can use
[16:39:38] 	 Mammutpanzer: have a look at dokuwiki as well
[16:40:09] 	 Mammutpanzer: http://www.dokuwiki.org/dokuwiki
[16:45:27] 	 03(FIXED) [Regression] IRC string output for log messages no longer compatible - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34508  +comment (10Krinkle)
[16:45:45] 	 wee
[16:47:29] * hexmode  pounces on Krinkle 
[16:48:14] 	 Krinkle: well done :-)
[16:48:22] 	 thx
[16:48:38] 	 You as well for hanging in there and helping with everything in #countervandalism
[16:48:48] 	 03(mod) [Regression] IRC string output for log messages no longer compatible - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34508  +comment (10hashar)
[16:49:27] 	 Krinkle: do you have time now to look at nlwiki's JS?
[16:49:57] 	 hexmode: again ? 
[16:50:12] 	 hexmode: siebrand poked me earlier, should be find now
[16:50:16] 	 oh, didn't see that you did
[16:50:19] 	 unless it's a different bug
[16:50:22] 	 lemme check
[16:50:22] 	 Wikimedia supports https right? Is it possible to make content only available once you logged in, yes or? 
[16:52:11] 	 Krinkle: you're right, was still broke last I tried.  I didn't see Common.js being loaded
[16:52:38] 	 hexmode: and now it's fixed?
[16:52:45] 	 Mammutpanzer, yes
[16:52:59] 	 Platonides to both? :)
[16:53:07] 	 yes
[16:53:08] 	 !privatewiki
[16:53:08] 	 I don't know anything about "privatewiki".
[16:53:10] 	 !private
[16:53:10] 	 I don't know anything about "private". You might try: !botnoob !ppp !secrets 
[16:53:15] 	 Mammutpanzer: Do you mean Wikimedia or MediaWiki software?
[16:53:28] 	 well, it's a yes in either case :)
[16:53:30] 	 Mediawiki sorry mixed it up :S
[16:53:40] 	 Mammutpanzer: both support https (there isn't much to support for https in the MediaWiki, it's up to you to serve it over https)
[16:54:12] 	 Krinkle: the js-error-causing problem is fixed.  But for some reason, I don't see MW:common.js -- am I not supposed to?
[16:54:27] 	 Mammutpanzer: if you install mediawiki in your https public directory, it will only be available on https
[16:54:38] 	 hexmode: define 'see' ?
[16:55:09] 	 Krinkle: with ?debug=true and firebug, I can't see any loading of MW:Common.js
[16:56:08] 	 hexmode, isn't that done through RL?
[16:56:17] 	 hexmode: https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:145.118.199.224/28?debug=true
[16:56:35] 	 hexmode: scroll and look for "Standaardbrief in geval van vandalisme" in the blue bar
[16:56:49] 	 hexmode: on the right should be "Uitklappen" (dutch for "Expand")
[16:56:57] 	 click it, does it reveal a section?
[16:56:58] 	 !secrets
[16:56:58] 	 MediaWiki was not designed with read-restrictions in mind, and may not provide air-tight protection against unauthorized access. We will not be held responsible should private information, such as a password or bank details, be leaked, leading to loss of funds or one's job. See also !lockdown
[16:57:03] 	 if so, then Common.js is loaded fine
[16:57:30] 	 Krinkle: yes, the code works, but how is common.js loaded and not showing up?
[16:57:41] 	 hexmode: what / where are you looking for ?
[16:57:50] 	 04(REOPENED) Results on Special:Search should display wiki time - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34727  summary; +comment (10Lejonel)
[16:57:50] 	 hexmode, see [18:01:32.213] GET https://bits.wikimedia.org/nl.wikipedia.org/load.php?debug=true&lang=nl&modules=site&only=scripts&skin=vector&* [HTTP/1.1 200 OK 1373ms]
[16:57:59] 	 hexmode: it's load.php?modules=site&only=scripts or something like it
[16:58:08] 	 03(mod) Results on Special:Search should display wiki time - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34727  -easy  (10Lejonel)
[16:58:09] 	 ah...
[16:58:52] 	 Krinkle: I saw MW:ProtectionTemplates.js and was expecting MW:Common.js
[16:59:15] 	 sorry for the trouble
[16:59:17] 	 MW:ProtectionTemplates.js is importScript'ed so that gets loaded unminified and raw
[16:59:40] 	 that should probably be a gadget with [default] now adays, saving a few kb and a http request
[17:00:01] 	 modules=….. |gadget.ProtectionIcons|…& probably :)
[17:00:23] 	 anyway, that's for another time
[17:00:25] 	 03(mod) "Pages with broken file links" category should not appear in some namespaces - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33413  (10wikiposta)
[17:01:20] 	 lol, I was wondering why my wiki was never hitting cache
[17:01:30] 	 turns out somebody installed the "RandomSelection" extension
[17:02:06] 	 extension writers should have a sysadmin give their code a once-over before releasing anything.  that shit is ridiculous
[17:02:11] 	 03emsmith *  10/trunk/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5/api/ApiFlagFeedbackArticleFeedbackv5.php: bug 34090 - take out implicit show and add returning user that hid/oversighted + timestamp to the frontend - NOTE: will probably need to be formatted somehow and isn't in use by the feedback page yet
[17:05:13] 	 03jeroendedauw *  10/trunk/extensions/EducationProgram/ (4 files in 4 dirs): Follow up to r112609;
[17:05:47] 	 New code comment: Krinkle; To get back at this one, I prefer having a script fail in both production and debug so it be noticed; 
[17:06:17] 	 New code comment: Krinkle; But if we're going the safe way, then what do you think about adding the other vars as well ?; 
[17:07:19] 	 Hello there.
[17:08:57] 	 FAQ didn't answer my question, so here goes: How do I model *my* wiki after the wikis ran by Wikimedia? Specifically, I want to run a Wiki with structure similar to that of Wikibooks (cause the content are divided volume and chapter-wise).
[17:09:15] 	 *with format similar
[17:09:47] 	 03(mod) Don't surface fix me templates on Mobile Frontend - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30421  +comment (10Max Semenik)
[17:10:06] 	 Is there any documented procedures or drop-in settings out there?
[17:12:03] 	 the1: most "magic" thigns you see on these wikis is just lots of people doing lots of things
[17:13:03] 	 Daniel_WMDE: Excuse me? I simply want to copy how the books and their chapter pages are arranged to my wiki.
[17:13:22] 	 03(mod) "Pages with broken file links" category should not appear in some namespaces - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33413  (10wikiposta)
[17:13:23] 	 the1: got an example of what you mean?
[17:13:24] 	 Since I have volumes and chapters.
[17:13:39] 	 Daniel_WMDE: Wikibooks.
[17:13:48] 	 i'm not often on wikibooks, and what i see there is mostly plain wiki pages
[17:13:51] 	 yes.
[17:13:53] 	 which page.
[17:15:04] 	 the1: i'm looking at http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/The_Rowers_of_Vanity_Fair  as an example
[17:15:08] 	 some book i picked at random
[17:15:13] 	 and I don't see what you mean
[17:15:15] 	 Daniel_WMDE: The general format. Basically, there's the introductory/about page, and the ability to create chapters for them.
[17:16:00] 	 that'S just a convention
[17:16:06] 	 it's just how people create pages there
[17:16:16] 	 the software doesn't know anything about it, as afar as i can tell
[17:17:06] 	 they use subpages for chapters, chich is probably a good idea
[17:17:16] 	 so, you'd want to enable subpages for the main namespace on your wiki
[17:17:24] 	 but that's a fairly minor detail
[17:17:26] 	 !subpages
[17:17:26] 	 By default some namespaces have subpages enabled and others don't. You can enable or disable them using $wgNamespacesWithSubpages in LocalSettings.php. 
[17:17:45] 	 03aaron *  10/trunk/extensions/PagedTiffHandler/PagedTiffHandler_body.php: Use $file->getLocalRefPath() for shell scripts so they get an FS path
[17:17:55] 	 Sorry I was away.
[17:17:59] 	 Just a moment.
[17:18:45] 	 Daniel_WMDE: http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/C_Programming
[17:18:51] 	 For example.
[17:19:13] 	 03aaron *  10/branches/wmf/1.19wmf1/extensions/ (. PagedTiffHandler/PagedTiffHandler_body.php): MFT r112613
[17:19:15] 	 How do I make it so that small icon appears to indicate the completeness?
[17:19:51] 	 And then there's also a small area with links to the next chapter and all.
[17:20:07] 	 the1: the icon is done with a template. but the completeness is tracked by hand. also the entries on the overview page are maintained by hand. that's what i meant by "no magic, just people".
[17:20:21] 	 03(WONTFIX) "Pages with broken file links" category should not appear in some namespaces - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33413  +comment (10Betacommand)
[17:21:15] 	 Same goes, with the previous/next chapter as well?
[17:21:19] 	 yes.
[17:21:22] 	 all that is manual
[17:21:47] 	 there's an extension called "hierarchy" which does some of this automatically
[17:21:51] 	 but it's not used by wikibooks
[17:21:52] 	 Dang, now I have more respect for the level of dedication put in by those contributors...
[17:22:18] 	 :P
[17:22:23] 	 it'S the wiki way
[17:22:28] 	 everythign is text, everything is people
[17:22:37] 	 the software is ignorant of the structure of the content
[17:22:51] 	 which means it's flexible, but doesn't help you much to do anything specific
[17:22:58] 	 it just lets you create web pages. that's about it
[17:23:05] 	 I see.
[17:23:36] 	 Just one more thing, does wikis have ability to put forward something to RSS or whatever feeds?
[17:23:39] 	 some things can be done with templates
[17:23:45] 	 wiktionary uses them a lot
[17:23:58] 	 the1: depends on what "something" is
[17:23:59] 	 For example, if I completed a chapter, I want to announce it on the feed.
[17:24:03] 	 Not when the page is created.
[17:24:06] 	 rss/stom feeds for changes are built in
[17:24:50] 	 Well, that's what I /don't/ want.
[17:25:01] 	 I want to decide when it's available to read.
[17:25:27] 	 !e News | the1 
[17:25:27] 	 the1: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:News
[17:25:29] 	 To announce it on the wiki-wide RSS (not for a specific page).
[17:25:32] 	 that'S one way to do ti
[17:25:41] 	 New patchset: Demon; "Scripts I plan to write so other people know how to dump svn2git" [operations/software] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/2829
[17:25:54] 	 there's another one where you maintain the entire feed as a wiki page
[17:25:57] 	 not sure what it'S called
[17:26:00] 	 Thanks Daniel_WMDE!
[17:26:30] 	 the1: see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:Feed_generator_extensions
[17:27:12] 	 By the way, I haven't used any wiki extensions before. I don't think they work like Wordpress addons, now do they?
[17:27:34] 	 not quite
[17:27:52] 	 All right, thanks for all the help!
[17:27:57] 	 installation requires you to manually download and install the extension, and edit your LocalSettings.php file
[17:28:01] 	 safer this way :)
[17:28:07] 	 !extensions | the1
[17:28:07] 	 the1: MediaWiki has been built so it can easily be customized by adding extensions. This is usually a simple process. See http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Extensions for instructions to install extensions, as well as for writing them. See http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_Matrix for an overview of known extensions.
[17:28:59] 	 Much better than the so-called 'addons' of the osCommerce CMS.
[17:29:10] 	 I had to manually edit the core files in some cases.
[17:29:22] 	 03(mod) Long execution time for extension init - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29361  +comment (10Max Semenik)
[17:29:24] 	 I think I'll be fine, thanks.
[17:29:43] 	 Thanks again Daniel_WMDE and goodbye.
[17:30:56] 	 03(mod) Show/hide memory in Wikipedia Mobile - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/20053  (10Max Semenik)
[17:34:35] 	 03aaron *  10/branches/wmf/1.19wmf1/extensions/PagedTiffHandler/PagedTiffHandler_body.php: Committed live fixes
[17:35:53] 	 New patchset: Demon; "Wrote repack scripts" [operations/software] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/2830
[17:36:03] 	 03(mod) Display the categories - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22660   +design (10Max Semenik)
[17:37:40] 	 03aaron *  10/trunk/extensions/PagedTiffHandler/PagedTiffHandler_body.php:
[17:37:40] 	 Ported r112615 from 1.19wmf:
[17:37:40] 	 * Fixed stupid bug in r112613 where the var was defined only for the vips code branch.
[17:37:40] 	 * Removed is_file() check since a temp file is always there and File/thumb.php is supposed to handle this kind of check anyway.
[17:38:18] 	 New review: Demon; "The reason I used `nice -n 10` on core but not extensions is because none of the individual extensio..." [operations/software] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/2830
[17:39:24] 	 03(FIXED) Many tiff thumbs fail with error "Error retrieving thumbnail from scaling server: empty response" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34724  +comment (10Aaron Schulz)
[17:41:18] 	 03jeroendedauw *  10/trunk/extensions/EducationProgram/EducationProgram.i18n.php: added missing messages
[17:44:44] 	 03ialex *  10/trunk/extensions/ (5 files in 4 dirs): svn:eol-style native
[17:45:46] 	 New patchset: Demon; "Adding the two rules files as they are now" [operations/software] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/2831
[17:46:39] <^demon|away>	 Bizzare. Gerrit told me that failed...
[17:49:39] 	 03awjrichards *  10/trunk/extensions/MobileFrontend/ (MobileFrontend.body.php MobileFrontend.php): Removing any invocation of MobileFrontend::updateMobileUrlPath() for now but leaving functionality in place for when we're ready to implement.
[17:49:48] 	 New review: Demon; "(no comment)" [operations/software] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/2831
[17:50:17] 	 Change abandoned: Demon; "(no reason)" [operations/software] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/2831
[17:50:30] 	 New review: Demon; "(no comment)" [operations/software] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/2830
[17:50:48] 	 New review: Demon; "(no comment)" [operations/software] (master); V: 0 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/2829
[17:50:49] 	 Change merged: Demon; [operations/software] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/2830
[17:50:49] 	 Change merged: Demon; [operations/software] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/2829
[17:51:34] 	 03(ASSIGNED) Nuke keeps previously deleted images as to-be-deleted when run repeatedly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30584  +comment (10Jeroen De Dauw)
[17:52:17] 	 03(mod) Allow Extension:Nuke to delete imported pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30141  +comment (10Jeroen De Dauw)
[17:53:30] 	 New patchset: Demon; "Adding rules files as they are now" [operations/software] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/2832
[17:53:45] 	 New review: Demon; "(no comment)" [operations/software] (master); V: 0 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/2832
[17:53:45] 	 Change merged: Demon; [operations/software] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/2832
[17:57:56] 	 New patchset: Demon; "Dump core and wmf-extensions" [operations/software] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/2833
[17:58:12] 	 New review: Demon; "(no comment)" [operations/software] (master); V: 0 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/2833
[17:58:12] 	 Change merged: Demon; [operations/software] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/2833
[18:04:28] 	 New patchset: Demon; "Wrapper for push-core. Those config lines are for pushing all branches+tags" [operations/software] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/2835
[18:05:14] 	 New review: Demon; "(no comment)" [operations/software] (master); V: 0 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/2835
[18:05:15] 	 Change merged: Demon; [operations/software] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/2835
[18:05:33] 	 Ryan_Lane: btw, is it hard to split gerrit-wm pushes up ? So that #mediawiki only sees mediawiki-related stuff and -tech the ops/puppet stuff ?
[18:05:48] 	 we fixed that yesterday
[18:05:53] 	 oh
[18:05:57] 	 operations/software
[18:06:03] 	 let me move that
[18:06:18] * Krinkle  checks what 'operations/software' is
[18:06:27] 	 packages, generally
[18:06:28] 	 03(mod) New page log can be fooled into not showing a new page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/16705  +comment (10rd232)
[18:06:33] 	 wait. no
[18:06:52] 	 it's random tools we write
[18:07:03] 	 operations tools
[18:07:10] 	 not mediawiki/tools -ish, right ?
[18:07:13] 	 right
[18:10:45] <^demon|away>	 I'm hoping to keep mediawiki/tools from being "the dumping ground where everything goes that I don't know where else to stash"
[18:10:47] <^demon|away>	 Repos are cheap :)
[18:11:38] 	 03yaron *  10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/languages/ (20 files): Follow-up to r112493 - moved namespace names from individual language files into new SF_Namespaces.php file
[18:17:20] 	 hi
[18:17:42] 	 say is there any plugin that i can use some syntax to include wikimedia commons pictures in my mediawiki?
[18:17:51] 	 !instantantcommons
[18:17:51] 	 I don't know anything about "instantantcommons".
[18:17:54] 	 !instantcommons
[18:17:54] 	 InstantCommons is a feature for MediaWiki 1.16+ that allows any MediaWiki installation to use media on the Wikimedia Commons. This has basically been realized via $wgForeignFileRepos. See . If you're only looking to use images from Wikimedia Commons and no other wikis, you can use the shortcut setting $wgUseInstantCommons to true.
[18:18:26] 	 03yaron *  10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/languages/ (SF_LanguagePt_br.php SF_LanguageRu.php): Follow-up to r112620 - removing files that, after the move of namespace names, contain no useful information
[18:18:48] 	 03(mod) Improve SQLite detection, to be able to execute SQLite tests - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34759  +comment (10Max Semenik)
[18:19:21] 	 03jdlrobson *  10/trunk/extensions/MobileFrontend/stylesheets/ (beta_common.css common.css): applied patch from Srikanth Logic for bug 34686
[18:20:05] 	 Platonides: thanks. does that mean i just need set  $wgUseInstantCommons to true without needing any plugin?
[18:20:40] 	 03(FIXED) Left alligned images should come alongside text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34686  +comment (10Jon)
[18:20:55] 	 but what is the syntax then?
[18:21:17] 	 New code comment: Yaron Koren; Thanks for pointing that out - I believe I just fixed the problem, in SVN.; 
[18:21:51] 	 03(FIXED) In some Help sections of WikiEditor, the ‘What you get’ column shows raw HTML instead of rendered text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34708  (10Rob Lanphier)
[18:24:25] 	 wow it works... so quickly so easy
[18:25:32] 	 in mediawiki, is there any markup for links that opens them in newtab?
[18:28:21] 	 nvm, found it :)
[18:28:33] 	 :)
[18:28:39] 	 Flexmaen: :)
[18:29:14] 	 03(FIXED) Oversighting an account globally does not remove it from public lists ! - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34539  +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[18:29:32] 	 i'm surprised :)
[18:30:07] 	 Flexmaen: isn't it nice when things Just Work? :-)
[18:31:04] 	 sumanah: yes thats unbelievable :-D
[18:31:13] 	 03(mod) Oversighting an account globally does not remove it from public lists ! - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34539  +comment (10aschulz4587)
[18:32:18] 	 03(NEW) Special:NewPages no longer shows correct page status - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34775 normal; MediaWiki extensions: FlaggedRevs; (beau)
[18:32:45] 	 Flexmaen: I used to have this saying about open source... either it just works, or the answer's in some terrible 3-year-old phpMyBB message board thread
[18:33:17] 	 Flexmaen: do you ever hack on MediaWiki?  what extensions have you most liked?
[18:33:56] 	 03(mod) Special:NewPages no longer shows correct page status - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34775  +comment (10aschulz4587)
[18:34:46] 	 03jdlrobson *  10/trunk/extensions/MobileFrontend/stylesheets/ (beta_common.css common.css):
[18:34:47] 	 clear any thing that might not have been cleared
[18:34:47] 	 follow up to r112622
[18:34:47] 	 floated elements in content do not get cleared
[18:34:48] 	 footer seems a good place to do this
[18:35:57] 	 03(NEW) Unattached accounts add raw newlines \n on Special:CentralAuth - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34776 normal; MediaWiki extensions: CentralAuth; (federicoleva)
[18:38:32] 	 New code comment: Catrope; 
 \ + $page_name = $title_object->getPartialURL(); \ 
 \ Sorry for not noticing this earlier: you; 
[18:40:47] 	 03catrope *  10/trunk/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5/modules/jquery.articleFeedbackv5/images/tipsy-flyover.png: Followup r111471: fix MIME type for PNG file
[18:41:13] * jeremyb  waves sumanah: pls pencil me in for the 21 UTC git, etc. training today ;)
[18:41:32] 	 New code comment: Robmoen; 
 \ if (!$title_object) { \ return; \ } \ 
 \ Since Title::newFromID returns null or a string, woul; 
[18:41:38] 	 03ialex *  10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/ (5 files): Pass __METHOD__ to DatabaseBase::commit() and DatabaseBase::rollback()
[18:42:20] 	 jeremyb: ok. Do you have a Gerrit account?
[18:42:45] 	 sumanah: yes
[18:43:05] 	 sumanah: will you cover puppet at all? or just the mediawiki side?
[18:43:10] 	 03(mod) Special:NewPages no longer shows correct page status - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34775  +comment (10beau)
[18:43:28] 	 03(mod) Some corrupt thumbs remain from initial Swift deploy - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34695  +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[18:43:40] 	 jeremyb: Everything I am going to cover is in https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Workflow .  I will not cover Puppet.
[18:43:53] 	 jeremyb: From what I understand it's just a generic "how do I submit 'stuff' into Gerrit" training. That 'stuff' could be MediaWiki or puppet or something else
[18:43:57] 	 03(mod) Special:NewPages no longer shows correct page status - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34775  +comment (10danny.leinad)
[18:44:07] 	 (I was one of the guinea pigs for this training last week)
[18:45:05] 	 jeremyb: the point of this training is going to be for people to follow the instructions and learn how to commit using Git, view changesets in Gerrit, comment on them, and review and merge them.  It's one hour and it's pretty tightly packed so there won't be a lot of time for "but whyyyyyyy" or "there's a nitpick I have with these instructions".  Just fair warning.
[18:45:33] 	 jeremyb: Can you successfully log into Google + and do a video hangout? have you already tested that?
[18:45:49] 	 sumanah: never done it. i'll make a new google account for today
[18:46:11] 	 jeremyb: OK. Once you've made the account, I can help you test the Hangout functionality, as long as I'm not in a meeting
[18:46:38] 	 03ialex *  10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialLinkSearch.php: Use local context to get messages
[18:46:46] 	 And I  do welcome improvements in the instructions, but I will be fairly firm in saying "let's bikeshed later, not right now, save it for after the meeting"
[18:48:02] 	 New code comment: Catrope; Using !$title is fine here, it's done all over core. newFromID() returns null or an ''o; 
[18:48:53] 	 sumanah: did we pick a location for the shed? ;)
[18:49:04] 	 sumanah: i can do the test in !5 mins?
[18:49:10] 	 ~5 *
[18:49:12] 	 ok
[18:49:22] 	 03(mod) "Pages with broken file links" category should not appear in some namespaces - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33413  (10wikiposta)
[18:51:27] 	 sumanah: do i just start at plus.g.c ?
[18:51:46] 	 jeremyb: pm me your account's email address and I will attempt to Hangout with you
[18:52:01] 	 jeremyb: plus.google.com is indeed a place you should be logged in, yes.
[18:52:14] 	 jeremyb: you will also need to install a Google Voice & Video plugin, if you have not already.
[18:52:28] 	 jeremyb: in about 8 min I need to be on another call that will last about 30 min, FYI.
[18:52:50] 	 k
[18:53:19] 	 03emsmith *  10/trunk/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5/api/ApiArticleFeedbackv5Utils.php: bug 34090 - follow up to r112599 - change to use getText since it's going into a title constructor as part of the permalink
[18:53:46] 	 sumanah: does it have to be a gmail account or do other addresses work too?
[18:53:51] 	 jeremyb: I don't know.
[18:53:56] 	 hrmm
[18:54:25] 	 jeremyb: if you have a working Google Plus account and you have installed the plugin, then you can participate in a G+ Hangout. That is all I know.
[18:54:28] 	 (on this topic)
[18:54:38] 	 03(mod) UTF-8 broken on Samsung Jet - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30828  +comment (10Jon)
[18:54:48] 	 sure. i've never used g+ before
[18:54:53] * jeremyb  will figure it out
[18:59:51] 	 sumanah: haha great saying
[18:59:55] 	 :-)
[19:00:24] 	 hack on?
[19:00:38] 	 oh well i liked the semantic maps plugin because i needed it
[19:01:01] 	 but it was hard to get it to work
[19:01:06] 	 and i needed the account confirmation plugin
[19:01:34] 	 the idea of the mediawiki i started is to describe houses in the city and have a view about how they looked before etc.
[19:01:38] 	 03(FIXED) UTF-8 broken on Samsung Jet - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30828  +comment (10Max Semenik)
[19:01:56] 	 Flexmaen: per http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/mediawiki-l/2012-February/038924.html it sounds like ConfirmEdit + QuestyCaptcha is a nice idea
[19:02:02] 	 the idea is to get some stories about the houses or presrve or watch them
[19:02:30] 	 still i will have to improve that map plugin because objects arent reloaded if you move the map
[19:02:47] 	 Flexmaen: we have aude here, who works a lot on mapping stuff, OSM, etc
[19:03:19] 	 oh that sounds great i'll have to talk to him if he has time
[19:03:58] 	 you can see an example at http://www.grazwiki.at/index.php?title=Lendplatz_37
[19:04:02] 	 (her, Flexmaen)
[19:04:28] 	 oops sorry
[19:04:45] 	 in IRC it was a 3% chance that i was wrong i guess ;)
[19:05:29] 	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:SiteMatrix some of the language cells are missing (cz, dk, epo, jp, minnan, zh-cfr)
[19:07:12] 	 biab, meeting
[19:12:13] 	 03(mod) [mw.config] wgActionPaths should be an object instead of a numeral array JavaScript - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34604  +comment (10krinklemail)
[19:14:46] 	 03platonides *  10/trunk/extensions/CentralAuth/specials/SpecialCentralAuth.php:
[19:14:47] 	 (Bug 34776) Unattached accounts add literal \n on Special:CentralAuth
[19:14:47] 	 Introduced in r103181
[19:15:15] 	 03(FIXED) Unattached accounts add raw newlines \n on Special:CentralAuth - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34776  +comment (10Platonides)
[19:16:50] 	 Platonides: nice one
[19:28:12] 	 03(mod) Special:NewPages no longer shows correct page status - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34775  +comment (10aschulz4587)
[19:29:32] 	 03(mod) [Regression] IRC string output for log messages no longer compatible - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34508  (10Krinkle)
[19:31:17] 	 03(mod) [Regression] Special:NewPages should show correct page status - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34775   +code-update-regression; summary (10Krinkle)
[19:31:25] 	 03(mod) Enabling of autopatroller rights for Sanskrit Wikisource (sa-ws) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34769  normal->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[19:31:37] 	 03(mod) Logo of Sanskrit Wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34766  major->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[19:31:56] 	 http://paste.debian.net/157947/ is somebody trying to exploit some bug in the wiki?
[19:32:50] 	 obiwahn, what is that paste?
[19:33:10] 	 the first lines are vrom my apache log
[19:33:14] 	 it looks like a request for a javascript module 
[19:33:21] 	 through mw's loader
[19:33:25] 	 03(mod) Set width and height for search-ltr.png (and search-rtl.png) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34768  +comment (10sam)
[19:33:37] 	 the rest is the result taht is shown when i put the url in my browser
[19:33:39] 	 i see many of these per page in my intallation
[19:34:30] 	 That looks perfectly normal
[19:34:37] 	 ok:)
[19:34:42] 	 Although the NaNNaNNaN part doesn't
[19:34:55] 	 Maybe you're using MediaWiki 1.17?
[19:35:11] 	 well...
[19:35:19] 	 Aye
[19:35:21] 	 I've seen people trying to use non MW exploits on MW before
[19:35:35] 	 Dude
[19:35:47] 	 !r 112534
[19:35:47] 	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/112534
[19:36:00] 	 That's some exploit attempts right there
[19:36:12] 	 That reminds me… RoanKattouw why don't I see versioned RL urls anymore?
[19:36:18] 	 Eh?
[19:36:21] 	 You should
[19:36:29] 	 Skin CSS URLs are unversioned
[19:36:38] 	 And the startup module is unversioned too
[19:36:43] 	 Everything else should be versioned
[19:38:13] 	 Oh, I do see some versioned modules
[19:38:29] 	 03(mod) [Regression] Special:NewPages should show correct page status - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34775  +comment (10beau)
[19:39:58] 	 03(mod) [Regression] Special:NewPages should show correct page status - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34775  +comment (10aschulz4587)
[19:43:32] 	 New code comment: Catrope; 
 \ + 
' + mw.msg( 'articlefeedbackv5-noteflyover-hi; 
[19:46:17] 	 New code comment: Danwe; What's the problem with constants for magic words?; 
[19:46:31] 	 03(mod) [Regression] Special:NewPages should show correct page status - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34775  +comment (10beau)
[19:47:23] 	 03(mod) [SF] Special:RunQuery enhancement to be able to populate red-links automatically - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34150  +comment (10yaron57)
[19:51:42] 	 03(mod) [Regression] Special:NewPages should show correct page status - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34775  +comment (10beau)
[19:55:38] 	 03(mod) [Regression] Special:NewPages should show correct page status - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34775  +comment (10aschulz4587)
[19:56:00] 	 03(mod) drop image file sometimes creates no thumb and does not complete - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34667  +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[19:56:16] 	 03(NEW) Help button not working - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34777 normal; MediaWiki extensions: ArticleFeedbackv5; (okeyes)
[19:56:38] 	 03(mod) Help button not working - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34777   +aftv5-1.5 (10Oliver Keyes)
[19:56:43] 	 03(mod) Help button not working - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34777  (10Oliver Keyes)
[19:57:21] 	 03(mod) [Regression] Special:NewPages should show correct page status - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34775  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[19:58:41] 	 03(mod) Schema changes for MediaWiki 1.19 deployment to Wikimedia wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34104  +comment (10afeldman)
[19:58:46] 	 04(REOPENED) Syntax highlighting does not work with PDFs. Instead the wiki code is shown. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29136  +comment (10Ran Ari-Gur (User:Ruakh on WMF projects))
[20:00:23] 	 03(mod) Collection extension supports , but not . - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29136  summary (10Ran Ari-Gur (User:Ruakh on WMF projects))
[20:01:15] 	 03kaldari *  10/trunk/extensions/ArticleCreationWorkflow/ArticleCreationWorkflow.php: declaring dependancy on jquery.clickTracking module
[20:03:44] 	 03(FIXED) API list=logevents does not correctly unserialize log_params - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34653  +comment (10Rob Lanphier)
[20:14:41] 	 03robin *  10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialAllmessages.php: fix r112591: re-add whitespace between message name and (talk)
[20:17:17] 	 New code comment: SPQRobin; 
 \ - return $title . ' (' . $talk . ')'; \ + return $title . $this->msg( 'parentheses' )->rawParams; 
[20:18:18] 	 chrismcmahon, maybe you should set your identify to happen before joining channels so you don't have the Changing host quit
[20:18:45] 	 Krenair: or find a new IRC client. :(
[20:19:08] 	 hashar, https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/File:Gerrit_request_merge_or_rebase.png seems broken
[20:19:14] 	 or that :\
[20:19:56] 	 hashar, oh. ignore that message. it looks okay now
[20:20:15] 	 :)
[20:20:17] 	 thanks
[20:20:24] 	 still have to review one of your patch IIRC
[20:20:32] 	 or did I review it ?
[20:21:03] 	 which patch?
[20:21:16] 	 oh that deprecated callback removal thing?
[20:22:15] 	 found it
[20:22:20] 	 !b 30410
[20:22:20] 	 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30410
[20:24:47] 	 03(mod) ResourceLoader should work around IE's limit on number of