[00:03:18] 03(mod) Support Flash-based upload widget to handle multiple file selection - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/16753 +comment (10b) [00:05:48] 03(mod) Don't autologin if local account doesn't exist (don't autocreate if user doesn't explicitly login) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/19161 +comment (10b) [00:06:04] 03(NEW) Permanently disable mobile site - links to disable are not clickable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35250 major; Wikimedia Mobile: devices; (thor.malmjursson) [00:06:43] 03siebrand * 10/trunk/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5/ArticleFeedbackv5.i18n.php: Fix typo and add a bunch of FIXMEs because of a butt ugly patchwork message. [00:14:16] hexmode: I replied to your thread. [00:14:30] :) [00:15:12] heh. only 28 of the 89 people in userinfo don't already have gerrit accounts [00:15:38] You mean users with USERINFO files? [00:15:49] yes [00:15:55] the other ones are SOL [00:16:27] I'll see how many that is after I run this script [00:16:34] I don't expect it to be that many [00:16:46] 03jeroendedauw * 10/trunk/extensions/EducationProgram/specials/SpecialStudentActivity.php: work on batch queries for special:studentactivity [00:16:51] hexmode: Bugspam + bureaucracy are bad, in case that wasn't obvious. [00:17:09] Joan: it was obvious [00:17:24] Good! [00:17:30] Then we can work on ways to reduce it! [00:17:34] Reduce them, even. [00:18:48] I have a server with hostname [Charlie], when I go http://charlie/wiki MediaWiki defaults to http://localhost/wiki which tries to retrieve from my client computer. How can I change this behaviour [00:19:42] I think you want to set $wgServer in LocalSettings.php. [00:19:46] !wg Server [00:19:46] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgServer [00:21:10] I am checking that one out [00:22:27] well, I'd definitely be wrong, then. 285 svn users with no userinfo file [00:22:58] robla: ^^ [00:23:25] so, there were only 28 people in the csv I was given that didn't already have gerrit accounts [00:23:35] That's not really surprising. There are a lot of old accounts and the USERINFO thing is a fairly recent development. [00:23:40] we have 285 users left without gerrit accounts [00:26:02] * robla heads over to talk to Ryan irl [00:27:20] Wow, Geitost is still doing translation [00:29:30] 03tstarling * 10/trunk/phase3/includes/parser/Parser.php: [00:29:30] In the $clearState=true case, remove strip marker prefixes from the [00:29:30] Parser::parse() input. It's only possible for strip markers to be present in [00:29:30] this case if the caller manages to guess the output of Parser::getRandomString() [00:29:31] in advance. Even if that is possible, it's not recommended as a robust calling [00:29:32] procedure. [00:29:33] Also cleaned up some old commented-out code in this area. [00:30:02] Problems encountered installing commit-msg hook [00:30:04] Permission denied (publickey). [00:30:06] * AaronSchulz sighs [00:31:47] New code comment: Reedy; I'm just wondering if this is likely to be misleading..; [00:37:25] 03(mod) Remove gerrit-wm from #wikimedia-tech - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35248 (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [00:39:31] is it possible to delete users and all of their pages? (i.e. spambots) [00:40:48] 03christian * 10/trunk/extensions/VisualEditor/demos/playground/flip.html: 3d flip demo and nested contenteditable tests for IE [00:41:56] 03jeroendedauw * 10/trunk/extensions/EducationProgram/ (3 files in 2 dirs): update last_active field on edits [00:42:13] !nuke | damjan [00:42:13] damjan: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Nuke [00:42:45] Reedy: I do have it, but does it also delete the users? (it seems not) [00:43:00] Reedy: also I have to add the users one by one [00:43:26] !deluser [00:43:27] Deleting users is very messy and not recommended, because this breaks referential integrity in the database (they appear in many different tables like users, edit histories, recentchanges, preferences, etc). A safe solution is to block the users, and possibly rename them with . You can also try [00:44:59] I did read that yes [00:47:40] Reedy: only one question, if I still delete a user… what referential integrity in the DB can I break? considering they didn't edit pages and only created spam pages (that I already deleted) [00:47:55] is there something worse that could happen? [00:48:13] Deleted pages still stay in the db. [00:49:13] You know what's fun? Going in the database and just deleting random things to see if anyone notices. [00:49:40] ...I'm kidding, sorry. [00:56:12] 03bsitu * 10/trunk/extensions/MoodBar/MoodBar.php: followup to -r113953 - remove misleading global variables [01:01:02] 03(mod) [MW] Split or copy overwritten uploaded files and versions into their own file pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35133 +comment (10bawolff+wn) [01:03:53] When saving a collection, my web server shows this error: Undefined index: displaytitle in /var/www/w/extensions/Collection/Collection.body.php [01:03:58] What can I do about it? [01:05:48] mirage335: what line? [01:06:18] 03(mod) Support Flash-based upload widget to handle multiple file selection - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/16753 +comment (10brion) [01:07:22] Reedy: ? [01:07:37] Does it tell you what line of code the error is on? [01:07:48] yes, one second [01:08:00] Ah, stomach... my mortal enemy!!! [01:08:01] 03reedy * 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/Collection.body.php: [01:08:01] Followup r113740 [01:08:01] Fix PODpartners casing difference [01:08:01] Remove unused global and useless return at the same time [01:09:18] Reedy: on line 834 [01:14:01] * AaronSchulz gives up with gerrit for now [01:15:03] AaronSchulz: long live svn! [01:15:47] 03(NEW) Add a 'Night Mode' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35251 normal; Wikipedia App: Generic; (yuvipanda) [01:15:58] 03(mod) Add a 'Night Mode' to the Wikipedia Mobile app - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35251 summary (10Yuvi Panda) [01:18:03] 03(mod) CentralAuth global session doesn't include some *.wikimedia.org public wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/14407 +comment (10solstag) [01:20:36] Reedy: any ideas? [01:21:22] What version of the code are you using? [01:21:27] 1.18 [01:23:05] Reedy: Not sure which revision (snapshot) MediaWiki gave me, but it was recent (installed about an hour ago). [01:24:24] it should be the latest in that branch then, at least [01:25:08] Hmm. It's still the same in trunk also [01:25:15] though, would seemingly look like it needs an isset in there too [01:26:40] 03reedy * 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/ (4 files): Documentation stuffs [01:27:40] 03awjrichards * 10/trunk/extensions/MobileFrontend/ (5 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed) [01:27:40] * Adds ExtMobileFrontend::$useFormatCookieName property so we can pass full mf_useformat cookie name to application.js [01:27:40] * Makes 'Mobile view' URL generation generate a full URL using the mobile URL template [01:27:40] * Refactors determining cookie's duration logic into its own method [01:27:41] * Uses native PHP setcookie() to set mf_useformat cookie [01:27:42] * Makes clicking on 'Desktop view' link use Javascript to change the cookie [01:27:43] value to 'desktop' before redirecting the user (specifically to bypass WMF [01:27:52] 03reedy * 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/Collection.body.php: [01:27:52] Reports of undefined index notices related to display title [01:27:52] Add a isset precursor [01:28:05] Reedy: I'm not sure how to add the isset though. I'm not remotely familiar with the codebase. [01:28:38] Give me a minute [01:28:44] Ok, thanks. [01:28:52] I'm going to merge it into the 1.18 branch, and then you can just download it again ;) [01:29:56] Much appreciated, thanks. [01:31:02] New code comment: Reedy; Oh, normalised some return statements, and remove some unused code and added a few braces; [01:32:21] 03reedy * 10/branches/ (6 files in 3 dirs): MFT r113988 x3 [01:32:50] mirage335: download it again, replace all the files, and see how that goes [01:32:53] Thanks. [01:34:46] Unexpected non-MediaWiki exception encountered, of type "UsageException" badtoken: Invalid token [01:34:59] The web server no longer complains, but things still don't work. [01:35:08] The web page shows the same error. [01:36:54] 03(mod) Upgrade to 1.19 on Postgres fails due to incomplete query when trying to defer foreign key for externallinks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33689 +comment (10marcin.cieslak) [01:37:23] How'd you manage to get that exception from the main web interface? that's an API exception [01:37:58] I have no idea. :| [01:38:24] Seems like I have this bug too, but it is marked as 'fixed'. [01:38:25] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31613 [01:38:55] Ah [01:39:00] It's fixed in trunk [01:39:09] 1.18 is older [01:39:25] I'll merge that for you also [01:39:42] * bawolff wonders why the API exceptions don't extend MWException? [01:40:03] Reedy: I just tested the patch suggested there, and it worked. [01:40:04] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/101149 [01:41:27] Yeah, that's what I was going to merge [01:41:48] 03reedy * 10/branches/REL1_18/extensions/Collection/ (. Collection.body.php): MFT r101149 [01:41:54] on it [01:42:44] 14(WFM) Upgrade to 1.19 on Postgres fails due to incomplete query when trying to defer foreign key for externallinks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33689 +comment (10Marcin Cieślak) [01:42:44] 03reedy * 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/ (Collection.suggest.php images/silk-add.png): [01:42:45] So apparently Collection still had a PHP4 constructor [01:42:45] More documentation improvements at the same time [01:42:49] bawolff: ^ [01:43:26] Reedy: Thank you, it works now. [01:43:51] bawolff: I'm guessing it was never changed... Been there since r16718 [01:44:10] * Reedy changes [01:44:30] or is that gonna break stuff.. [01:45:02] 03christian * 10/trunk/extensions/VisualEditor/demos/playground/flip.html: fixes to ie ce test demo [01:46:18] 03(mod) Android menu has no icon for 'Share' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34990 +comment (10tfinc) [01:46:46] hmm, doesn't look like it would [01:47:04] 03(FIXED) Android menu has no icon for 'Share' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34990 +comment (10Tomasz Finc) [01:47:51] 03(mod) CentralAuth global session doesn't include some *.wikimedia.org public wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/14407 +comment (10sam) [01:56:49] 14(DUP) WMF servers missing part of cl_timestamp index, live hack breaks list=categorymembers&cmsort=sortkey - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/17558 +comment (10Marcin Cieślak) [01:56:50] 03(mod) Broken paging in list=categorymembers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27965 +comment (10marcin.cieslak) [01:58:07] Installed CentralNotice but my wiki is not listed on the Projects list? [02:02:44] 03reedy * 10/trunk/phase3/includes/api/ApiMain.php: Make UsageException extend MWException [02:03:05] Hmm, a "need to make schema change on wmf servers bug" was duped to a fixed bug that involved just making a code change to mw, which was eventually reverted. that seems suspicious... [02:04:12] * Reedy blames saper [02:06:35] 03(mod) WMF servers missing part of cl_timestamp index, live hack breaks list=categorymembers&cmsort=sortkey - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/17558 +comment (10Bawolff) [02:07:06] 14(INVALID) category_title index for Pg is wrong? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27285 +comment (10Marcin Cieślak) [02:13:01] 03(mod) [MW] Split or copy overwritten uploaded files and versions into their own file pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35133 +comment (10fastgoldfish) [02:13:34] is there a way to add a new extension to the repository without having translators starting to translate as soon as the language file is up? [02:15:46] Danwe: just leave a comment on the revision/commit summary saying not to translate it [02:15:48] 03(mod) [MW] Split or copy overwritten uploaded files and versions into their own file pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35133 +comment (10fastgoldfish) [02:15:57] Then raymond won't add it to TW until it's requested [02:16:07] They don't automatically just appear on TW [02:19:14] Reedy: thank you, I'll do that [02:22:29] * Dantman wishes there was a FireBug extension that adds a "MediaWiki Debug" and "MediaWiki Profiler" tab to each request in the network tab. [02:27:17] 03(mod) WMF servers missing part of cl_timestamp index, live hack breaks list=categorymembers&cmsort=sortkey - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/17558 +comment (10marcin.cieslak) [02:27:42] MW 1.18: Is there a way to allow my search to search by partial word? (E.g.; Morris would return everything closely related including Morristown Morrisburg, etc.) Thanx [02:28:03] 03(mod) WMF servers missing part of cl_sortkey index, live hack breaks list=categorymembers&cmsort=sortkey - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/17558 summary (10Marcin Cieślak) [02:28:24] 03(mod) WMF servers missing part of cl_sortkey index, live hack breaks list=categorymembers&cmsort=sortkey - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/17558 +comment (10bawolff+wn) [02:31:18] bawolff: maybe here it will be faster :) [02:32:43] saper: I think you're right about that bug. At first glance I just didn't see the relation, but it makes sense that it would have been fixed with the category changes [02:33:42] 03(mod) Support Flash-based upload widget to handle multiple file selection - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/16753 +comment (10b) [02:35:43] bawolff: I learned the hard way in https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/83993 :-) [03:15:08] 03(FIXED) $wgMaxCredits breaks MW on PostgreSQL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/21196 +comment (10Marcin Cieślak) [03:19:04] 03danwe * 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticExpressiveness/ (48 files in 5 dirs): [03:19:04] New extension 'Semantic Expressiveness', early ALPHA [03:19:04] *** NOT READY FOR TRANSLATION *** [03:21:15] 03danwe * 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticExpressiveness/ (COPYING README RELEASE-NOTES): eol style for COPYING, README and RELEASE-NOTES set to native [03:30:10] Ryan_Lane: should "git clone ssh://@gerrit.wikimedia.org:29418/mediawiki/core.git" automatically include a .gitreview file? [03:37:55] 03(mod) Support Flash-based upload widget to handle multiple file selection - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/16753 +comment (10brion) [03:51:56] Aaron|home: If that file exists in the repo, yes. [03:52:24] it's not created automatically, would be nice though [03:52:50] we manually create it right after a new repo is created and push/review/merge it. usually the first commit in every repo [03:53:28] * Aaron|home checks out the test repo [03:59:01] 03(mod) Ability to add a CentralNotice banner to a campaign through the banner view - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29845 +comment (10Nischay Nahata) [04:02:16] 03(mod) The XSS filter in IE8/9 breaks certain tools - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32013 +comment (10GoingBatty) [04:23:58] Krinkle: I can't get git review to work [04:24:03] * Aaron|home sighs [04:29:22] 03siebrand * 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/check-blacklist.php: Update check blacklist. [04:38:03] 03siebrand * 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesEn.php: [04:38:03] Remove incorrect "the" in 'filereadonlyerror'. [04:38:03] Make use of reasons more consistent in a few messages. [04:42:40] 03(NEW) $wgBlockDisablesLogin - effective on a private wiki? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35252 normal; MediaWiki: Blocking; (jasper) [04:48:09] 03(mod) svnImport generates "svn: No such revision" errors. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35218 +comment (10brion) [04:48:48] 03siebrand * 10/trunk/translatewiki/Wikia/extensions.txt: Fix key in tags. [04:56:44] 03(mod) CentralAuth global session doesn't include some *.wikimedia.org public wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/14407 +comment (10Krinkle) [04:59:20] 03(NEW) PHP warning in Collection from use of undefined callback - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35253 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Collection; (brion) [04:59:58] 03(mod) PHP warning in Collection from use of undefined callback - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35253 +comment (10brion) [05:16:08] awjr_afk : hi arthur , [05:18:20] 03siebrand * 10/trunk/translatewiki/EOL/EOL.yaml: Update codeMap. Map sr-ec to sr adn sr-el to sr_CS. [05:21:18] New code comment: Brion VIBBER; That code wasn't unused! bug 35253; [05:22:19] 03(mod) PHP warning in Collection from use of undefined callback - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35253 +comment (10brion) [05:37:17] 03(mod) $wgBlockDisablesLogin - effective on a private wiki? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35252 +comment (10brion) [05:38:32] 03(mod) CentralAuth global session doesn't include some *.wikimedia.org public wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/14407 +comment (10solstag) [06:36:48] 03siebrand * 10/trunk/translatewiki/EOL/EOL.yaml: Use dash instead of underscore. [06:49:17] Is there any way to restrict unregistered edits and the IPs that are allowed to edit to a subnet? [07:04:34] 03(NEW) Article Feedback Page v5 - Oversighter Central Activity Log Restriction - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35254 critical; MediaWiki extensions: ArticleFeedbackv5; (fflorin) [07:09:42] 03siebrand * 10/trunk/translatewiki/EOL/EOL.yaml: Prime example of making changes when tired... [07:18:27] 03santhosh * 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [07:18:27] Minor white space fix [07:18:27] prefix ag- for aggregrate group Ids. [07:18:28] If the name contains comma, make it underscore. [07:18:29] Ping r113709 and r113715 [07:18:56] 03(mod) Article Feedback Page v5 - Oversighter Central Activity Log Restriction - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35254 +aftv5-1.5 (10Fabrice Florin) [07:24:05] 03(NEW) Facebook Pictures - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35255 normal; MediaWiki: Images and files; (cheerfulharmony) [07:24:50] 03santhosh * 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/tag/SpecialPageTranslationMovePage.php: [07:24:50] Handle an edge case where $priorityreason is "0" and evaluates to false making it not moved to new page metadata. [07:24:50] Ping r113225 [07:25:22] 03(mod) Facebook Pictures - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35255 (10nantucketnoon) [07:28:21] 03(mod) Facebook Pictures - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35255 +comment (10cheerfulharmony) [07:42:52] 03(mod) Upload video files > 100 MB upload to Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35246 +comment (10antoinemotteditfalisse) [07:54:15] 03(mod) Facebook Pictures - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35255 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [07:54:21] Is it possible to customize the look of just some pages and not all.. [07:54:27] i mean with the skins.. [07:54:39] I think there is a CSS class for each namespace [07:55:10] there is even one for each page :-] [07:55:10] does that mean i can use one skin for some pages and some other for other pages.. [07:55:18] ? [07:55:21] looking at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girdlestone : [07:55:33] so any style to page-Girdlestone will apply only to that page [07:55:42] the skin is the same for all pages [07:55:53] but you can change some style elements per namespace and or per page [07:56:23] so the html elements would be same for all.. but just some css rules would be different [07:56:32] right ? [07:56:35] on mediawiki.org , all pages in namespace Manual: have a blue background : https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:PHP_unit_testing [07:56:50] exactly. Only some CSS differences [07:57:25] so this can only be achieved programatically ... there is not any user preferences option for this ? [07:58:00] not that I known of [07:58:08] ohh [07:58:16] each user has their own stylesheet though [07:58:36] yeah i was aware of that option... we have a global variable for that [07:59:28] if you want to change the HTML you have to either create a new skin and have it deployed [07:59:34] or use some javascript to alter it [08:00:24] i was trying to build this extension ,,, and i would like to have a feature which would enable different look for some pages.. [08:00:54] so i was hoping i could build a skin which could just be used for pages created by my extensions [08:01:03] :) [08:03:34] 03(mod) Get some statistics about testswarm db performance - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35028 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [08:06:40] 03(mod) Don't autologin if local account doesn't exist (don't autocreate if user doesn't explicitly login) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/19161 +comment (10g.m.hagedorn) [08:12:24] 03(mod) Rename "gerrit2" bot/approver to "linterbot" or similar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35141 +comment (10hashar) [08:15:36] 03(UNCONFIRMED) [QUnit] Tablesorter tests fail in non-English installations - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34093 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [08:18:46] 03(ASSIGNED) PHPUnit test suite leaks temporary data - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33987 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [08:20:05] 14(WFM) Investigate why tests run setUp() and tearDown() more than once - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29612 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [08:23:25] 03(FIXED) Make SVN Documentation be indexed by Google - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28469 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [08:26:00] 03(ASSIGNED) Integrate Jenkins with Git - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34141 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [08:27:38] 03(WONTFIX) Rename "gerrit2" bot/approver to "linterbot" or similar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35141 (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [08:28:49] hashar: why 34093 back to unconfirmed? [08:29:07] !bug 34093 [08:29:07] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34093 [08:29:25] Nikerabbit: cause I don't know if that is stilll happening [08:29:32] Nikerabbit: might have been fixed since january [08:29:59] it is [08:30:11] a mom I give you a link [08:31:07] hashar: http://translatewiki.net/sw/Special:JavaScriptTest/qunit?uselang=fi [08:32:12] feel free to remark it as confirmed [08:35:34] shower time, will be back in roughly 1 hour [08:36:54] You have to specify a comment when changing the status of a bug from UNCONFIRMED to NEW. [08:36:57] sigh [08:37:18] 03(mod) [QUnit] Tablesorter tests fail in non-English installations - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34093 +comment (10Niklas Laxström) [08:37:33] New code comment: Santhosh.thottingal; Addressed in r114002; [08:47:33] 03(UNCONFIRMED) Trailing whitespace not visible in code diffs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34483 +comment (10Krinkle) [08:56:09] lol ... officially you can't install Oracle 10gR2 on *Oracle Linux Server* .... roflol ... amateurs [09:09:02] 03(FIXED) Add a show Headers preference - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34942 +comment (10Zaran) [09:14:58] back [09:27:18] front [09:28:08] and side to side [09:39:25] Heh... php is beautiful as usual [09:39:46] weird OTRS ticket. idk what it means or what to say. http://dpaste.com/717332/plain/ [09:40:00] decbin( $n ) != hex2bin( dechex( $n ) ); [09:40:51] ;) php uses 'bin' to refer to both raw binary strings and strings in '1010101010100101011010' format [09:41:26] oh, huh, someone already responded [09:41:57] 03jdlrobson * 10/trunk/extensions/MobileFrontend/stylesheets/beta_common.css: [09:41:57] make form rule more specific [09:41:57] this will break rendering of forms outside the [09:41:57] header e.g. feedback form [09:42:10] just a generic referral to MW support [09:42:22] but i still don't understand what that guy was saying [09:47:54] he needs helping setup uploading for MW [09:47:57] aka [09:48:00] !upload [09:48:00] File uploads are disabled per default, set $wgEnableUploads=true; to enable it. See for configuration details, and for using uploaded images and other files. [09:48:06] jeremyb i think he's asking how do i enable uploading in his LocalSettings.php [09:48:29] yeh what p858snake|l said :) [09:48:31] jdlrobson: but what code did he write? [09:48:47] anyway, maybe he'll show up here [09:48:51] i think he means wikitext [09:49:01] or he's misusing the word code [09:49:03] oh [09:49:07] i guess he has done [[File:Foo.png]] [09:49:18] and when images are disabled it doesn't let you upload just create a page [09:56:34] 03(mod) Upload video files > 100 MB upload to Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35246 +comment (10antoinemotteditfalisse) [10:33:04] 03(NEW) Italian API: action=parse props=iwlinks, it no longer retrieves iw with prefix="commons" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35256 major; MediaWiki: API; (paontis) [10:42:03] 03(NEW) jQuery.makeCollapsible.js: Initial collapse state is not respected for nested tables - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35257 normal; MediaWiki: Javascript; (remus) [10:50:19] 03(mod) svnImport generates "svn: No such revision" errors. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35218 +comment (10wiki) [10:56:45] 03(mod) svnImport generates "svn: No such revision" errors. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35218 +comment (10wiki) [10:58:30] 03nikerabbit * 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/data/plural-cldr.yaml: Update for cldr 21.0, unfortunately some rules were renumbered [10:59:25] 03nikerabbit * 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/scripts/cldr-plural-to-yaml.php: Update docs [11:10:26] 03(NEW) Allow bureaucrats to remove sysop rights on fr.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35258 normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (akeron_wp) [11:11:05] New code comment: Nikerabbit; intesrt, please also add message docs.; [11:14:53] 03santhosh * 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [11:14:53] More validations , limit the maxlength of aggregate group name. [11:14:53] Ping 113709 [11:15:58] Nikerabbit: I am going to lunch. Will experiment this afternoon using git submodules [11:16:05] see you! [11:18:22] 03(mod) jQuery.makeCollapsible.js: Initial collapse state is not respected for nested tables - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35257 (10Porter21) [11:24:11] Is it possible to add some userrights in mediawiki so that not every account can read specific articles? [11:24:19] New code comment: Nikerabbit; I18n looks ok.; [11:27:20] New code comment: Nikerabbit; inArray doesn't return boolean, it returns the position which may be zero.; [11:27:33] 03(mod) Allow bureaucrats to remove sysop rights on fr.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35258 +comment (10Jérémie Roquet) [11:32:54] 03(mod) jQuery.makeCollapsible.js: Initial collapse state is not respected for nested tables - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35257 +comment (10Lupo) [11:34:03] 03(mod) jquery.makeCollapsible() very slow if many collapsible, initially collapsed elements - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34876 +comment (10lupo.bugzilla) [11:38:09] 03(mod) Provide a list of unsuccessful searches - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/6373 +comment (10dejan.papez) [11:40:47] 03happydog * 10/trunk/extensions/CodeReview/CodeReview.php: [11:40:47] Tidied up grouping/ordering of CodeReview.php so it is a bit more clearly delineated. Hunting for configuration settings was becoming somewhat painful! [11:40:48] No functional changes, just some comments to delineate sections, and a couple of items moved so related stuff is grouped together. [11:44:41] 03happydog * 10/trunk/extensions/CodeReview/CodeReview.php: Removed comment that should have been removed when the global constants it relates to were made class constants, in r82479. No functional changes. [11:49:43] 03(mod) Trailing whitespace not visible in code diffs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34483 +comment (10niklas.laxstrom) [11:54:21] 03happydog * 10/trunk/extensions/CodeReview/ (CodeReview.php backend/CodeRevision.php): (log message trimmed) [11:54:21] (bug 35217) [CodeReview] As per the bug, I have added a new config setting, [11:54:21] $wgCodeReviewDisableFollowUpNotification, which is probably pretty [11:54:21] self-explanatory. Set this flag to true if you want to disable the automatic [11:54:22] notifications to all watchers of a specific revision, when a follow-up to that [11:54:23] revision is committed. Useful for small repos when everyone is reading the [11:54:24] commit e-mails anyway, or if you have multiple repositories which refer to one [11:55:44] 03(FIXED) Add facility to disable follow-up notification e-mails. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35217 +comment (10Mark Clements (HappyDog)) [11:57:45] 03(NEW) Display a more informative message on [[Special:Gadgets]] if [[MediaWiki:Gadgets-definition]] is still empty - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35259 enhancement; MediaWiki extensions: Gadgets; (mybugs.mail) [12:04:26] 03(NEW) Correct name of the Slovene language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35260 normal; MediaWiki: Internationalization; (dejan.papez) [12:05:45] 03(mod) Allow bureaucrats to remove sysop rights on fr.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35258 -shell +shellpolicy; +comment (10Nemo_bis) [12:06:18] could someone tell me , what changes happen in a databse when we move a page ? [12:07:56] some help .. !! [12:08:17] 03(mod) [[Special:MyPage]] should not discard URL parameters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35060 (10mybugs.mail) [12:11:14] saper : what changes happen in a databse when we move a page ? [12:11:47] saper : i m talking in terms of page table [12:12:21] saper : n hi :) [12:14:40] chughakshay16, that page_title changes ? [12:14:56] there will be a new entry in logging table [12:15:06] and a new revision, which get inserted into revision tabl [12:15:18] and thus changes page_rev, too [12:15:29] Platonides : so page_id still remains the same [12:15:37] yes [12:16:01] that's an easier question than "what changes" :) [12:16:02] Platonides : ty [12:19:12] Platonides : but watchlist mantains a reference to page_title and page_id .. so does that mean that page would not be watched anymore ? [12:19:16] 03(NEW) Add block permissions in rollback on Lusophone Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35261 normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (Pedroleodato) [12:19:27] Platonides : i meant watchlist table [12:20:01] Platonides : * but watchlist mantains a reference to page_title and not page_id [12:26:29] santhosh: ping :) [12:26:41] Sid-G: hi [12:26:57] santhosh: need help with http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_talk:Narayam#Formalization_of_rules [12:28:30] Sid-G: ok, gimme 15 mins, will ping you back, need to attend something urgently [12:28:46] santhosh: ok :) [12:31:06] chughakshay16: yeah the reference is for page_title because you can also watch if the page is delete or (re)created [12:31:26] it's not a real reference though (not a foreign key) [12:32:33] but the reference would be lost once the page is moved .. right? [12:35:03] saper : yeah i got ur point..since its not a FK [12:38:00] Sid-G: See https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35115 Comment 2 [12:38:23] Is there some kind of element or template "marker" that I can use anywhere in an article that will put that article and the position of the "marker". Specifically, I'd like to do this to mark 'missing' or 'todo' sections withing articles. [12:38:46] So that there will be a Special:Todo or some sort of page where all of these occurences are listed [12:39:10] santhosh:looking now [12:41:57] one more question,,, we can add more preferences in mediawiki through an extension .. right ? [12:42:14] yes [12:42:33] okay [12:43:23] santhosh:So I just need to use that function as a wrapper? [12:43:43] that take care of the order of loading of dependent scripts [12:43:54] or does that mean ext.narayam.core is loaded twice? [12:44:12] it will be loaded only once. mw.loader will manage that [12:44:19] ok [12:44:26] I'll try the rules then :) [12:44:31] thanks :) [12:56:17] santhosh:problem is still there [12:56:28] santhosh:same js error [12:57:28] yuvi : general question .. how do i get to have some feedback on my proposal ? [12:58:07] yuvi : i mean i posted in on wikitech-l ... but for some reason it didnt catch anyone'a attention :| [13:00:07] gwicke : hi , [13:00:48] gwicke : how do i get to have some feedback on my proposal ? [13:01:23] gwicke : i posted it on wikitech-l a long time back.. but nobody cared to have any opinion about it ..:| [13:01:35] santhosh:Found a way to test rules through the chrome console :) [13:01:37] i need help with something [13:01:46] what do i use to download entire wikis made of mediawiki [13:01:51] suggest please [13:02:20] what do i use to download entire wikis made of mediawiki [13:02:21] suggest please [13:03:24] FAMAS : well u could use extension Collection to collect pages and then download them as a book [13:03:40] extension collection? [13:03:43] how does that work? [13:03:58] FAMAS : just download it from the extensions page in mediawiki [13:04:22] and put it into your extensions directory [13:04:40] and make a change in your LocalSettings.php [13:04:41] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Collection_Extension_2 [13:04:43] is this it? [13:04:48] or are there better? [13:05:09] no this is not the extension [13:05:15] let me give u a link [13:05:37] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Collection [13:06:00] and instructions for installing it are given on that page [13:07:13] but i would need to setup a server to do the php things [13:07:19] last time i did that, it took time and effort [13:07:29] i just want a software that would collect the wiki site structure [13:07:32] and the pages [13:07:39] i mean on most of the wiki projects this extension is already present [13:07:42] you know, make a database dump [13:07:59] such as WikiBooks [13:08:29] but how do i dump other wikis made using mediawiki [13:08:39] which do not do regular data dumps unlike wikipedia [13:08:42] i need help [13:08:58] is u r trying to download pages from a random wiki(running on mediawiki).. this extension would have to be installed in their server setup [13:09:01] *if [13:09:19] and if they have it installed, what do i do next? [13:09:50] FAMAS:You wouldn't be wanting to download wikipedia by any chance would you? [13:10:00] if they have it installed then there must be a link in their sidebar .. [13:10:02] i already have wikipedia dumped [13:10:06] like Create a Book [13:10:11] as XML I hope [13:10:25] chughak [13:10:31] or their would a link on Special:SpecialPages [13:10:46] going on every page and clicking a button to save it is not my idea of offline use of wikis [13:11:02] FAMAS:Database dumps of en-wp are availaible if u want them, they're just huge [13:11:07] sid G [13:11:08] well it also allows you to save whole category at once [13:11:13] i am talking about OTHER WIKIS [13:11:24] Well.. wget -m is a option :) [13:12:10] FAMAS:Ah, let me know if u find a way :) [13:12:25] you want the way too, sid? [13:13:35] FAMAS:Sure, why not [13:13:59] i am on a headless chicken mode running on a frenzy [13:14:05] there are too many wikis [13:14:10] and almost none offers offline reading [13:14:14] except wikipedia [13:14:16] and a few others [13:15:29] You could email the owners and ask for a dump [13:15:34] thats the proper method [13:15:47] the owners are riding bollocks [13:15:53] they are unreachable [13:15:57] and they do not respond [13:28:00] 03(mod) CentralAuth global session doesn't include some *.wikimedia.org public wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/14407 +comment (10Platonides) [13:37:40] What are the current session rules in mediawiki? Does it check to see if the IP has changed? how does it prevent hijacking [13:50:01] New patchset: ArielGlenn; "log should be written to private directory, just in case" [operations/dumps] (ariel) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/3241 [13:51:13] New review: ArielGlenn; "(no comment)" [operations/dumps] (ariel); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/3241 [13:51:15] Change merged: ArielGlenn; [operations/dumps] (ariel) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/3241 [13:52:28] 03(mod) Allow bureaucrats to remove sysop rights on fr.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35258 +comment (10akeron_wp) [13:52:59] 03(mod) Ability to add a CentralNotice banner to a campaign through the banner view - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29845 +comment (10bugs) [14:02:34] [14:15:38] 03(mod) Add block permissions in rollback on Lusophone Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35261 (10mybugs.mail) [14:33:50] 03(mod) Add block permissions in rollback on Lusophone Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35261 +comment (10Max Semenik) [14:34:01] 03(mod) The number of articles is not updated - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35169 (10Mark A. Hershberger) [14:34:35] 14(INVALID) Facebook Pictures - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35255 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [14:35:43] 03(mod) tipsy missing a feature - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35212 +comment (10fur.hewiki) [14:35:45] 03(mod) Allow bureaucrats to remove sysop rights on fr.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35258 normal->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [14:37:06] 03(mod) Allow bureaucrats to remove sysop rights on fr.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35258 +comment (10federicoleva) [14:40:02] 03(FIXED) PHP warning in Collection from use of undefined callback - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35253 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [14:40:05] 03reedy * 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/Collection.suggest.php: [14:40:05] Partial revert r113986 [14:40:05] Bug 35253 - PHP warning in Collection from use of undefined callback [14:40:06] I hate computers [14:43:42] 03(mod) Add block permissions in rollback on Lusophone Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35261 +comment (10Pedroleodato) [14:44:58] 03kaldari * 10/trunk/phase3/resources/jquery/jquery.js: partial fix for bug 35057 - backporting a patch from jQuery 1.7.2pre [14:46:48] 03(mod) automatic linking of templates in edit summaries - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35174 normal->15enhancement; +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger) [14:48:14] 03jeroendedauw * 10/trunk/extensions/Maps/Maps.i18n.php: follow up to r113944, add message docs [14:48:35] 03(mod) Italian API: action=parse props=iwlinks, it no longer retrieves iw with prefix="commons" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35256 +comment (10sam) [14:48:35] New code comment: Jeroen De Dauw; Typo was already fixed; [14:48:52] 03(mod) WebFonts Menu goes beyond the menu heading after font change - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35175 (10Mark A. Hershberger) [14:49:07] Daniel_krank: still sick? :( [14:49:17] 03(mod) [Regression] WikiLove's preview button only works on second click - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35057 +comment (10Ryan Kaldari) [14:49:49] New code comment: Jeroen De Dauw; maps-par should be \ Describes the function and usage of the $2 parameter part of the $1 service.; [14:50:40] 03(NEW) error from UW seen in commons and local install: "Unknown error:unknown" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35262 major; MediaWiki extensions: UploadWizard; (cmcmahon) [14:51:13] hi everyone [14:51:28] 03(mod) error from UW seen in commons and local install: "Unknown error:unknown" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35262 +comment (10sam) [14:51:29] i'm getting troubles trying to upload images [14:51:56] i;ve setted up the correct permissions in /images, enabled correctly in LocalSettings [14:52:03] but when i upload an image [14:52:15] all seems to be ok [14:52:20] * varnent not entirely paying attn today - celebrating iPad day in the Varnum/Proffer household :) [14:52:23] but the image isn't here [14:52:40] no errors in apachelog, no errors in php log [14:52:46] i don't understand [14:53:33] 03(NEW) Allow remote uploads for Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35263 normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (M8R-udfkkf) [14:54:41] gargrag: what version of MediaWiki are you running? [14:59:12] 03(mod) IE get "Webpage expired" when using back button in RunQuery pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27497 +comment (10mitchell_neill) [14:59:24] 03(mod) Correct name of the Slovene language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35260 +comment (10niklas.laxstrom) [14:59:51] gargrag: just checking whether it's pretty recent [15:00:56] 03(mod) Native language names should be stored in uncapitalised form where appropriate - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35260 summary (10Niklas Laxström) [15:01:07] 03(mod) jquery.makeCollapsible.js doesn't collapse collapsible elements which are inside of a hidden element - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35176 (10Mark A. Hershberger) [15:01:11] hashar: hi, how's it going? [15:02:15] 03(mod) Allow for customizable URL path-based access to MobileFrontend view - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35178 normal->15enhancement (10Mark A. Hershberger) [15:02:34] 03(mod) se.wikimedia.org: allow users to edit their userpage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35185 (10Mark A. Hershberger) [15:03:01] 03(mod) Allow remote uploads for Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35263 +comment (10sam) [15:03:03] 03(mod) Allow bureaucrats to remove sysop rights on fr.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35258 15enhancement->normal; +comment (10Akeron) [15:03:27] 03(mod) Add block permissions in rollback on Lusophone Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35261 normal->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [15:03:42] 03(mod) Allow bureaucrats to remove sysop rights on fr.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35258 normal->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [15:04:53] sumanah: busy with translatewiki right now [15:04:58] sumanah: doing some cloning job for them [15:05:11] and I am also rewriting our history [15:05:14] hashar: understood. I shall not distract you, then [15:05:27] 03(mod) MathJax: Several commands that work in texvc are not recognized - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35186 (10Mark A. Hershberger) [15:08:09] 1.16 sumanah [15:08:13] sorry the late [15:09:02] gargrag: understood. :-) you should upgrade to 1.18.1, and I do not remember whether there were bugfixes re file uploads over those versions in between [15:09:04] 03(mod) IE get "Webpage expired" when using back button in RunQuery pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27497 +comment (10yaron57) [15:09:33] sumanah: can you tell me please, what is the latest release ? [15:09:43] !latest [15:09:44] I don't know anything about "latest". You might try: !1.17 !1.18 !branch !download !packages !php4 !subversion [15:09:52] gargrag: MediaWiki 1.18.1. [15:10:07] gargrag: if you are ok with running a beta version, 1.19 has a beta out. [15:10:25] gargrag: https://www.mediawiki.org/ has more information :) [15:14:31] thanks a lot sumanah, but 1.9 is older than 1.18? [15:15:18] gargrag: you misread: 1.19, not 1.9 . :) [15:15:24] 03(mod) Styles in math-tag are ignored when using MathJax - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35191 (10Mark A. Hershberger) [15:15:37] yes i understand that. [15:15:55] 03(mod) Allow bureaucrats to remove sysop rights on fr.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35258 +comment (10federicoleva) [15:15:58] sumanah: but http://dumps.wikimedia.org/mediawiki/ there is 1.9 too [15:16:08] sorry about my lack of information [15:16:29] 03(mod) Enable sub page feature in Telugu Wikisource (te.wikisource.org) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35193 +shell (10Mark A. Hershberger) [15:17:02] gargrag: I'm not sure why you're looking at that, and I shall have to ask apergos to remedy the fact that http://dumps.wikimedia.org/mediawiki/ doesn't include more recent versions. You should look at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Download [15:17:13] !download [15:17:14] The latest stable release of MediaWiki can be downloaded from . Files are supplied in a .tar.gz archive. MediaWiki can also be obtained direct from our Subversion repository . [15:17:21] gargrag: ^ [15:17:26] 03(mod) Fatal error if to be merged users are blocked - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35239 (10Mark A. Hershberger) [15:17:52] sumanah: jajaja [15:18:07] apologyze me, and thanks a lot [15:18:08] it's the same directory [15:18:11] bye sumanah [15:18:29] the mw download page is what gets updated [15:18:32] 03reedy * 10/branches/REL1_19/phase3/ (17 files in 10 dirs): MFT r112918, r113214, r113268, r113277, r113312, r113415, r113454, r113737, r113758, r113775, r113892 [15:18:53] gargrag: how did you FIND http://dumps.wikimedia.org/mediawiki/ ? [15:19:09] gargrag: whatever links to http://dumps.wikimedia.org/mediawiki/ , we should update so it doesn't point there anymore [15:19:46] 03(mod) Module state changes from server response should trigger handlePending - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35240 (10Mark A. Hershberger) [15:20:01] 03kaldari * 10/trunk/extensions/WikiLove/modules/jquery.elastic/jquery.elastic.js: fix for bug 35057 - also suggested as an upstream change for jquery.elastic [15:20:13] i can't find the link. i'll search ... [15:20:33] 03(mod) take over jquery.tipsy plugin - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35241 normal->15enhancement (10Mark A. Hershberger) [15:22:51] 03(FIXED) [Regression] WikiLove's preview button only works on second click - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35057 +comment (10Ryan Kaldari) [15:24:55] 03reedy * 10/branches/REL1_19/extensions/ (9 files in 6 dirs): MFT r112586, r112926, r112930, r113352 [15:26:25] 03(FIXED) Many thousands of submissions possible in minutes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35245 +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger) [15:27:09] 03(mod) Upload video files > 100 MB upload to Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35246 (10Mark A. Hershberger) [15:27:19] I would happily take away the index page and let people browse the directory [15:30:03] 03bsitu * 10/trunk/extensions/MoodBar/modules/ext.moodBar/ext.moodBar.core.js: followup to -r113955 - use > -1 to check if a value is in array for JQuery inArray [15:37:02] saper: today's the deadline for http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2012-March/058790.html [15:37:56] Reedy: Zaran: you might also be interested http://opensourcebridge.org/blog/2012/01/announcing-the-2012-call-for-proposals/ [15:40:10] sumanah: i've upgraded and still having the same problem :S [15:40:58] gargrag: can you link me to your wiki? [15:41:06] 03(mod) Allow bureaucrats to remove sysop rights on fr.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35258 +comment (10akeron_wp) [15:41:17] no Daniel_krank, because is an internal service of my work [15:41:28] gargrag: that makes debugging the problem a lot harder... [15:41:34] New code comment: EnDumEn; I think this broke the fix for bug 24977.; [15:41:49] gargrag: the first i'd try to check is whether it's just thumbnailing that is failing. [15:41:50] Daniel_krank: maybe you could tell me how to debug it [15:41:56] !debug [15:41:56] For information on debugging (including viewing errors), see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:How_to_debug [15:42:12] gargrag: yea, do what sumanah said to increase output [15:42:17] ok [15:42:31] also, go to the image description page, find the "full resolution" link and klick it [15:43:18] also, please tell us what exactly you see onthe image description page, and what exactly happens when you try to embed an image. [15:43:27] both what it looks like and what the generated html is [15:44:15] Daniel_krank: giving helpful advice even as you're illin', eh? :-) [15:44:33] gargrag: also, please check if your uploads get listed on Special:NewFiles [15:44:39] sumanah: sure, gotta pass the time somehow :) [15:45:27] 03(mod) content-holding
should only contain the page text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35247 (10Mark A. Hershberger) [15:45:30] Daniel_krank: i've already checked [15:45:39] and they aren't [15:45:50] 03(mod) Remove gerrit-wm from #wikimedia-tech - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35248 (10Mark A. Hershberger) [15:46:08] gargrag: ah. so they are not uploaded at all [15:46:16] exactly [15:46:19] gargrag: what exactly happens after you upload? [15:46:21] the /images folder is empty [15:46:33] the page reloads, [15:46:43] ah, ok. [15:46:44] Special:Ulpload [15:46:57] you are probably hitting php's upload limit or apaches post limit [15:47:06] to mediawiki, it then looks like you didn't upload anything [15:47:27] 03(mod) Permanently disable mobile site - links to disable are not clickable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35250 (10Mark A. Hershberger) [15:47:39] gargrag: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:File_uploads#Set_maximum_size_for_file_uploads [15:47:47] 03(mod) Add a 'Night Mode' to the Wikipedia Mobile app - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35251 normal->15enhancement (10Mark A. Hershberger) [15:47:49] all it's ok [15:47:59] i'm trying with a 35kb image [15:48:25] you may still be hitting the post limit if it's very low [15:49:02] the relevant setting is LimitRequestBody [15:49:08] ...in the apache config [15:49:34] 03(mod) $wgBlockDisablesLogin - effective on a private wiki? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35252 (10Mark A. Hershberger) [15:49:41] gargrag: if that's not it, i can only recommend to enable the debug log so you can track what exactly happens when you upload [15:49:46] Hey all. For the "Technology report" I'm trialling the use of opinion polling, so if you have a view on the new proposed diff colour scheme, you can vote at http://bit.ly/wkqZi8 [15:50:05] 03(mod) PHP warning in Collection from use of undefined callback - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35253 (10Mark A. Hershberger) [15:50:05] Daniel_krank: thanks a lot i'am in that way :) [15:50:23] Jarry1250: did you already email wikitech-l? I am catching up so I might not have seen it [15:50:32] Jarry1250: interesting idea [15:50:37] 03(mod) Facebook Pictures - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35255 (10Mark A. Hershberger) [15:51:58] sumanah: No, but I could do, just ramping it up slowly to make sure the system works. [15:52:02] 03(NEW) Wrong type used for in export-0.6.xsd - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35264 minor; MediaWiki: Export/Import; (mormegil) [15:52:16] 04(REOPENED) Remove the duplicate Access Key to compare selected revision in history - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24977 +comment (10Lejonel) [15:53:43] Daniel_krank: i've checked errors in php error_log [15:54:17] and i only see that http://pastebin.com/SLJqna7F [15:54:20] :S [15:55:41] gargrag: the debug log is separate from the error log. you have to enable it explicitly [15:56:05] gargrag: you should only do that temporarily though, it's bound to degrade poerformance. [15:56:09] it logs a *lot* [15:56:19] instructions should be on the debug page# [15:56:36] 14(INVALID) Italian API: action=parse props=iwlinks, it no longer retrieves iw with prefix="commons" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35256 +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger) [15:58:09] 03(NEW) XML export tries to add the sha1 checksum to page instead of revision - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35265 normal; MediaWiki: Export/Import; (mormegil) [15:58:48] 03(mod) jquery.makeCollapsible() very slow if many collapsible, initially collapsed elements - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34876 +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger) [15:59:21] 03(mod) error from UW seen in commons and local install: "Unknown error:unknown" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35262 +comment (10cmcmahon) [16:00:08] 03(mod) jQuery.makeCollapsible.js: Initial collapse state is not respected for nested tables - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35257 (10Mark A. Hershberger) [16:00:13] 14(DUP) XML export tries to add the sha1 checksum to page instead of revision - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35265 +comment (10Mormegil) [16:00:14] 03(mod) Moving sha1 into revision tag in XML dumps - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34963 +comment (10Mormegil) [16:01:25] Daniel_krank: it's unveliavable [16:01:35] New code comment: Mormegil; In addition to the abovementioned bug 34963, see also bug 35264.; [16:01:48] when i upload an image mediawiki logs nothing [16:02:50] 03(mod) automatic linking of templates in edit summaries - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35174 (10mabdul) [16:08:36] 03(NEW) tooltip isn't translated - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35266 normal; MediaWiki extensions: CentralAuth; (mah) [16:11:08] 03(mod) tooltip isn't translated - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35266 +code-update-regression (10Raimond Spekking) [16:11:11] 03mark * 10/trunk/debs/varnish3/: The varnish package has been migrated to git repo operations/debs/varnish [16:11:36] 03(mod) Allow remote uploads for Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35263 +comment (10M8R-udfkkf) [16:11:52] sumanah: Hey! [16:11:57] hi ashish_d! [16:12:16] 14(DUP) Allow remote uploads for Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35263 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [16:12:16] 03(mod) Enable $wgAllowCopyUploads (upload by URL) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/20512 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [16:12:53] So realtime collaboration would be perhaps implemented in two phases, out of which I'm aiming to prototype Phase 1 and initial codebase for Phase 2 [16:13:03] In a little under 3 hours, https://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/homepage/google/gsoc2012 will link to the accepted organizations for Google Summer of Code [16:13:09] hope we're on it. [16:13:33] ashish_d: you saw https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Summer_of_Code_2012/management including https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Summer_of_Code_2012/management#Quality_over_quantity.2C_scope_small I see :-) [16:13:44] "I'd rather people dedicate July 22-August 20 to merging with trunk, pre-deploy review, testing, bugfixing, documentation of course, and other integration work. So we should encourage students to scope for more like 6 weeks than 12. A well-scoped project is a dream to run. Our chant should usually go, "Can you really do that in a summer?"" [16:14:16] paulproteus: I was wondering how you would feel about my statement "We don't need GSoC to be an intake valve for people who are new to programming or version control; that's what OpenHatch is for." [16:14:22] 03(mod) Wrong type used for in export-0.6.xsd - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35264 (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [16:17:40] 03reedy * 10/trunk/extensions/CentralAuth/specials/SpecialCentralAuth.php: [16:17:40] Bug 35266 - tooltip isn't translated [16:17:40] Ping r112930 [16:18:33] 03(mod) tooltip isn't translated - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35266 +comment (10sam) [16:18:33] New review: Mark Bergsma; "(no comment)" [operations/debs/varnish] (master); V: 0 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/3216 [16:18:43] New review: Mark Bergsma; "(no comment)" [operations/debs/varnish] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/3216 [16:18:45] Change merged: Mark Bergsma; [operations/debs/varnish] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/3216 [16:19:04] New review: Mark Bergsma; "(no comment)" [operations/debs/varnish] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/3217 [16:19:06] Change merged: Mark Bergsma; [operations/debs/varnish] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/3217 [16:21:12] 03(mod) Allow bureaucrats to remove sysop rights on fr.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35258 (10Mark A. Hershberger) [16:21:27] 03reedy * 10/branches/wmf/1.19wmf1/extensions/ (. CentralAuth/ CentralAuth/specials/SpecialCentralAuth.php): MFT r114020 [16:21:49] 03(mod) Native language names should be stored in uncapitalised form where appropriate - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35260 (10Mark A. Hershberger) [16:22:57] 03brion * 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/Collection.body.php: Collection doc comment updates: remove "@return mixed" from two functions that return no value [16:23:20] 03(FIXED) tooltip isn't translated - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35266 (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [16:25:02] 03(mod) Add block permissions in rollback on Lusophone Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35261 (10Mark A. Hershberger) [16:32:10] 03(mod) Remove gerrit-wm from #wikimedia-tech - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35248 (10Ryan Lane) [16:32:36] sumanah: couldn't go for the hackathon :( [16:32:53] nischayn22: you mean you can't go to the Chennai hackathon tomorrow? [16:33:01] nischayn22: or do you mean you were unable to attend the Pune hackathon? [16:33:32] sumanah: both [16:33:47] nischayn22: that is indeed too bad. [16:34:41] sumanah: Pune is near but that time I didn't know of the hackathon, while chennai is too far [16:34:58] !events | nischayn22 [16:34:58] nischayn22: We run face-to-face events for MediaWiki developers and people who want to learn: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_developer_meetings We also have online meetings in IRC to triage bugs: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Bug_management/Triage [16:35:18] nischayn22: so, you should probably try following those pages, and also if you use Twitter or Identi.ca, subscribe to @MediaWikiMeet [16:37:43] sumanah: It would be good to idle on a developer irc meeting :) [16:38:54] nischayn22: then it is good that you are here [16:39:03] nischayn22: since this is where they talk [16:39:12] nischayn22: you can also read the logs [16:39:13] !logs [16:39:13] https://toolserver.org/~mwbot/ [16:39:19] 03(mod) Allow bureaucrats to remove sysop rights on fr.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35258 +comment (10dereckson) [16:39:36] sumanah: I am using irccloud so I never miss a thing :) [16:41:01] 03(mod) Upload video files > 100 MB upload to Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35246 +comment (10Dereckson) [16:44:27] 03(mod) Upload video files > 100 MB upload to Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35246 +comment (10sam) [16:46:56] 03(mod) Upload video files > 100 MB upload to Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35246 +comment (10dereckson) [16:47:40] 03(mod) Wrong type used for in export-0.6.xsd - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35264 (10Mark A. Hershberger) [16:54:39] 03(mod) Native language names should be stored in uncapitalised form where appropriate - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35260 +upstream (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [16:56:17] 03(mod) Native language names should be stored in uncapitalised form where appropriate - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35260 +comment (10niklas.laxstrom) [16:56:53] sumanah: hey.. i had submitted a patch to the bug 35057,which had *high* priority.It has not been reviewed yet :-| [16:57:08] !b 35057 [16:57:08] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35057 [16:57:30] sumanah: Krinkle is not here from patch two days and i dont know how to contact ryan kaldari [16:57:35] potter: you read https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35057#c15 ? [16:58:30] potter: within any Bugzilla comment, if you look at the name of who wrote the comment, that name is actually a link to their email address. In this case I know that Ryan Kaldari is away from the office and probably will not be able to respond to you for at least a few days, maybe a couple of weeks :( [16:58:39] oh.. my bad,got no mail [16:59:19] 03jeroendedauw * 10/trunk/extensions/EducationProgram/ (24 files in 4 dirs): work on special:studentactivity and adding frank his images [16:59:36] potter: Krinkle has been in IRC within the past few days; in general, if you need to talk to someone, and you do not see him/her in IRC, instead of waiting and getting impatient, perhaps you should send them an email or leave a message on their talk page. http://toolserver.org/~krinkle/wikimedia-svn-users.php and https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developer_hub might be useful for you [16:59:40] sumanah: got it [16:59:51] Extension:Password_Reset says it's obsolete because that functionality was added in 1.18 to core ... what special page would that be then? [17:00:12] Special:PasswordReset [17:00:51] sumanah: but that requires the user account to have an email. [17:01:16] potter: you're talking about Bugzilla, or about mediawiki.org ? [17:01:50] i meant i got waht you said about leaving msg on peoples talk page [17:01:56] what* [17:03:00] potter: ok. when you said, "but that requires the user account to have an email." what were you referring to? [17:03:11] potter: all Bugzilla accounts are associated with email addresses. [17:03:37] potter: and even if someone hasn't linked her MediaWiki.org account with an email address, leaving a message on her Talk page will still be fairly effective. [17:04:26] i did not know about the talk page(felt like it was spaming ) .from now on i'll do that [17:07:13] potter: I can understand the confusion [17:07:26] sumanah: :) [17:07:43] sumanah: tomorrow is hackathon \m/ [17:10:50] New code comment: Siebrand; 1. Contains spelling and plural issues: \ +    'ep-studentactivity-count' => 'There {{PLURAL:; [17:12:34] New code comment: Siebrand; To reduce maintenance, I suggest using flag images from commons. Their naming is very structured, an; [17:14:12] 03reedy * 10/trunk/extensions/EducationProgram/resources/images/ (19 files): [17:14:12] Crush images from r114023 [17:14:12] Drops from 165KB to 58.5KB (200KB to 116KB as size on disk) [17:14:12] Also fix svn:mime-type [17:14:38] potter: it is frustrating when one submits patches and they don't get reviewed quickly [17:15:19] sumanah: yeah..but then till now mine have got reviewed quickly :) [17:15:28] potter: if you get a Gerrit account then you'll be able to submit your patches as Git merge requests and they'll be in the same merge request dashboard as all the other merge requests, including from more senior developers https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Workflow [17:15:31] !gerrit [17:15:31] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/ [17:16:11] imo i need more experience for that [17:16:47] 03(mod) Remove gerrit-wm from #wikimedia-tech - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35248 +comment (10rlane32) [17:17:16] potter: what do you mean? [17:17:36] potter: anyone can get a Gerrit account and any programmer can learn to use Git [17:18:01] potter: it is frustrating when one submits patches and they don't get reviewed quickly [17:18:12] potter: in general, after March 21st, we want people to switch from submitting patches as attachments in Bugzilla to submitting them in Gerrit/Git [17:18:17] speaking of which, wasn't someone going to review that patch I submitted to bugzilla? [17:18:25] it will help get them reviewed faster [17:18:30] Krenair: point to it? [17:18:52] !b 30410 [17:18:52] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30410 [17:18:53] sumanah: thats a very nice move [17:19:42] Krenair: Looks like Antoine fell behind. MaxSem , do you have time to review the patch on https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30410 ? [17:20:09] or maybe you have a moment, awjr? ^^ [17:20:23] 03(NEW) My LCStore_Accel fails with APC - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35267 normal; MediaWiki: Internationalization; (vitalif) [17:20:37] Tbh I wasn't sure if he forgot about it or just hadn't got around to it yet. Didn't really want to nag him about it [17:20:44] Krenair: thanks for bringing that to my attention. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_engineering_20%25_policy is part of how we are trying to get better at reviewing any patches and other code people submit [17:20:58] Krenair: you can bug me & hexmode about that sort of thing in case you don't want to nag the developers [17:21:20] Krenair: my job & Mark's (hexmode's) jobs include specifically helping folks like you with things like this :-) [17:21:55] potter: can you link to the bugs that have unreviewed patches from you? [17:22:05] cool, thanks sumanah [17:22:28] sumanah, Krenair: i can probably take a look at it shortly [17:22:34] thank you awjr [17:22:39] all my bug patches are reviewed :) [17:22:47] sumanah: only this was remaining [17:22:55] oh good [17:26:08] Krenair: I only miss the RELEASE NOTES entry, but looks fine to me [17:26:57] Krenair: did you see extensions/Form/Form.body.php ? seems to be using it [17:26:58] 03(mod) [Regression] WikiLove's preview button only works on second click - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35057 +comment (10Bagariavivek) [17:27:35] saper, didn't check any extensions. [17:27:59] It's been deprecated since 1.17 so no extensions should be using it... [17:28:51] 1.17 is new in terms of extensions :) [17:29:28] I'm downloading the extensions now [17:29:35] of unmaintained extensions* [17:30:09] Krenair: could this possibly be converted into EditFilter thing? [17:30:36] hm. I've got a user who cannot change his password (no email set), and cannot log in, even after i changed his passwd with changePassword.php [17:30:53] 03jdlrobson * 10/trunk/extensions/MobileFrontend/javascripts/references.js: [17:30:53] use top for absolute positioning not bottom [17:30:53] using bottom doesn't work on certain mobile devices [17:30:53] crucially on iphone. Instead use top [17:30:58] sumanah, looks good to me, but I think we shouldn't commit it before the switchover to Git [17:31:58] Krenair: ^^ [17:32:16] Krenair: perhaps you want to simply push it as a Git commit? [17:32:16] 03(mod) Remove deprecated $wgFilterCallback from core - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30410 +comment (10Marcin Cieślak) [17:32:18] thank you MaxSem [17:32:40] 03(mod) IE get "Webpage expired" when using back button in RunQuery pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27497 +comment (10mitchell_neill) [17:32:55] Yes, leave it for now because I need to check extensions and possibly fix them [17:33:03] sumanah: which project shall we push patches to? [17:33:19] sumanah: did you know how can i set the base url? i have it installed at https://mywiki, and the links are beign generated like http://mywiki [17:33:38] !baseurl [17:33:39] I don't know anything about "baseurl". [17:33:41] hmm [17:33:46] !wg Server [17:33:46] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgServer [17:33:52] 03(FIXED) Remove gerrit-wm from #wikimedia-tech - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35248 (10Ryan Lane) [17:34:06] see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgServer gargrag [17:34:18] thanks [17:34:27] !wg [17:34:27] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wg`e1 [17:34:38] saper: git clone ssh://@gerrit.wikimedia.org:29418/mediawiki/core.git [17:34:39] !wg del [17:34:39] Successfully removed keyword: wg [17:34:49] !wg is https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wg`e1 [17:34:49] Successfully added keyword: wg [17:35:24] !wg Foo [17:35:24] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgFoo [17:35:32] hashar: Ryan_Lane: some people are a little fearful about submitting to mediawiki/core.git because they are worried that at some point between now and March 21st that project might be blown away/recreated, etc [17:35:54] well, it isn't from an ops POV [17:35:58] hashar: Ryan_Lane -- how can we reassure them? [17:36:01] so, that's something you guys need to work out ;) [17:36:09] don't wipe it away? [17:36:14] sumanah: mediawiki/core.git will be wiped [17:36:20] hashar: when? [17:36:24] New patchset: ArielGlenn; "fix typo in case for templatedir config option" [operations/dumps] (ariel) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/3255 [17:36:27] when we switch ? [17:36:33] will check that with Chad [17:36:47] hm. I wonder if operations/dumps should be moved to the operations channel [17:36:49] hashar: so that will also wipe all pending merge requests? [17:36:53] apergos: ^^ [17:37:04] sumanah: I have no idea. most probably yes [17:37:05] apergos: stay here, or move to operations channel? [17:37:16] huh? [17:37:18] just a sec [17:37:26] 03(mod) My LCStore_Accel fails with APC - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35267 +comment (10Aaron Schulz) [17:37:28] hashar: :( argh. ok, time for me to look at those pending merge requests [17:37:34] here is ok [17:37:36] gerrit bot messages for operations/dumps. move to -operations channel, or stay here? [17:37:38] ok [17:37:51] oh. the bot [17:37:56] um [17:38:03] it's not really all that op-y [17:38:07] * Ryan_Lane nods [17:38:11] really it should spam wikitech :-P [17:38:14] here's fine [17:38:45] ok [17:38:58] as mark keeps pointing out, everyone sleeps through my sumamries in the ops meeting anyways, which shows about how relevant itis... [17:39:21] hashar: fortunately there are none awaiting merge against mediawiki core [17:39:37] test yes, but of course [17:39:40] that's just a test [17:39:42] people are just playing with test/mediawiki/core.git [17:39:45] yeah [17:39:53] the final one will need a few modification [17:40:08] for example, I have no idea which email addresses we are going to use to identify authors [17:40:16] 03(mod) IE get "Webpage expired" when using back button in RunQuery pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27497 +comment (10yaron57) [17:40:20] currently it is johndo@users.mediawiki.org [17:40:31] but it seems gerrit will use the real addresses [17:41:30] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "Re-enabled scoped timeout in file op batches." [test/mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/3256 [17:41:31] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "Also removed old comment." [test/mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/3257 [17:41:35] FINALLY [17:41:40] hashar: yes, gerrit will use the real address I assume [17:42:22] so apparently "roan gives you the commit-msg file and you put in /hooks" needs to be added to the windows instructions [17:42:58] hashar: i see https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30410 is assigned to you. however sumanah and Krenair have asked me to review the patch. have you looked at it yet? if not mind if i take a look/ [17:43:18] awjr: Max just looked at it actually [17:43:26] awjr: I did and it looks fine to me. [17:43:34] "looks good to me, but I think we shouldn't commit it before the switchover to Git" [17:43:45] awjr: I did not apply it since we are in a code slush. Will once we have migrated to git [17:43:49] AaronSchulz: go ahead & add that [17:43:58] groovy. [17:44:06] glad i double checked :) [17:44:25] MaxSem: hashar: awjr -- to save duplication of effort, if you make that kind of decision, please leave a note as a comment on the bug? [17:46:30] ARGHHH [17:46:33] i am out [17:46:37] see you later tonight [17:46:46] I just screwed a giant rebase :( [17:46:51] lunch time so [17:46:54] huh, so two commits become two different batches with a dependency [17:47:20] so I guess one has to rebase first to collapse them [17:47:30] Is it normal to keep a copy of the entire extensions directory from SVN? [17:47:43] Krenair: for devs yes [17:47:59] not for production [17:48:55] ok. I just had phase3 and am checking out the extensions dir now [17:50:47] New review: ArielGlenn; "(no comment)" [operations/dumps] (ariel); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/3255 [17:50:50] Change merged: ArielGlenn; [operations/dumps] (ariel) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/3255 [17:51:26] AaronSchulz: ping [17:51:32] i'm trying to reset a user's password, but changePassword.php, nor directly updating the user table allows him to log in. MW just says "Incorrect password". [17:52:02] Funny: http://jeff.ecchi.ca/blog/2012/03/15/switching-pitivis-main-git-repository/ [17:53:00] and apparently just setting the user_email field is not enough to allow for password reset via email. [17:54:54] New patchset: ArielGlenn; "two more case typos in config" [operations/dumps] (ariel) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/3258 [17:56:16] New review: ArielGlenn; "hope this is all of them." [operations/dumps] (ariel); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/3258 [17:56:18] Change merged: ArielGlenn; [operations/dumps] (ariel) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/3258 [17:56:33] where's sumanah when i need her? :D [17:58:53] I need some help in trying to troubleshoot allowing .zip files to be uploaded as a valid extension. I have been using $wgFileExtensions = array('png'... in localsettings wich has been working great. Untill I tried to ad a .zip. the upload page just reloads with no error messages. and nothing shows up in the logs. same experiance with chrome, ie, firefox. MediaWiki 1.18. [17:58:58] 03jeroendedauw * 10/trunk/extensions/EducationProgram/EducationProgram.i18n.php: follow up r114023 add missing plural [17:59:19] New code comment: Jeroen De Dauw; 1. Yes, I forgot to put in a plural, fixed in r114026. Where are the spelling issues though? \ 2. Sen; [17:59:44] Nikerabbit: never ping, just post a short question :) [18:00:20] AaronSchulz: I can't test https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/113389 myself [18:01:04] New code comment: Jeroen De Dauw; Can you link to these? And do you suggest using them via instant commons?; [18:02:34] New code comment: Jeroen De Dauw; What compression(?) tool are you using for images, and where can I get it?; [18:12:04] New code comment: Reedy; Under windows I'm using pngout http://advsys.net/ken/utils.htm with a 1 line batch script to iterati; [18:13:18] 06(LATER) Allow bureaucrats to remove sysop rights on fr.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35258 +comment (10Dan Collins) [18:14:14] 14(INVALID) se.wikimedia.org: allow users to edit their userpage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35185 +comment (10Dan Collins) [18:15:10] 06(LATER) Torblock-unblocked right not given to sysops - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/18640 (10Dan Collins) [18:21:28] 03(mod) Allow bureaucrats to remove sysop rights on fr.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35258 +comment (10Caroline Tredez) [18:29:21] 03(mod) IE get "Webpage expired" when using back button in RunQuery pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27497 +comment (10mitchell_neill) [18:29:42] Trying to troubleshoot and allow .zip files to be uploaded. I have been using $wgFileExtensions = array('png'... in localsettings wich has been working great. Untill I tried to ad a .zip. the upload page just reloads with no error messages. and nothing shows up in the logs. same experiance with chrome, ie, firefox. MediaWiki 1.18, PHP 5.3.8. Any ideas? - Thanks in advance. [18:30:27] aharoni: Hi, please review my patch when you have time. https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30796 [18:30:33] 03(mod) Allow bureaucrats to remove sysop rights on fr.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35258 +comment (10dereckson) [18:31:04] * yuvipanda pokes aharoni  [18:33:18] * Nikerabbit pokes yuvipanda [18:33:27] * svip pokes Nikerabbit [18:33:47] * yuvipanda pokes the rabbit [18:33:56] 03jeroendedauw * 10/trunk/extensions/EducationProgram/ (3 files in 3 dirs): some work on caching special:studentactivity and fixed image display [18:34:21] I thought we were just poking around. [18:34:31] yuvipanda: when was the release again? [18:34:47] Nikerabbit: 22 evening PST [18:34:55] yuvipanda: which day? [18:34:58] Nikerabbit: thursday. [18:35:16] yuvipanda: which week? :D [18:35:30] Nikerabbit: the coming one :D [18:35:35] this year [18:35:35] 03(FIXED) Upload video files > 100 MB upload to Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35246 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [18:36:01] there should be calendar for these [18:36:18] like engineering calendar has the planned deployments [18:36:21] saper, you were right to point out extensions - looks like there's a few that were using EditPage::AS_FILTERING which my patch removed [18:36:37] what release are you talking about, Nikerabbit / yuvipanda? [18:36:39] yuvipanda: maybe you arleady have some? [18:36:43] sumanah: mobile appp [18:36:46] ah [18:37:08] Nikerabbit: hmm, it is on our calendars. let me see where tfinc put it [18:37:52] And the 'filtered' error as well >_> [18:38:17] Nikerabbit: doesn't look like we have a publci calendar of sorts, just our personal ones. Will make one soon! [18:38:25] yuvipanda: that would be great [18:38:47] hey sumanah : you tried to reach me a few days ago? [18:38:54] Nikerabbit: we're hoping to switch to a much faster release cycle after 1.1. I'll make sure this 'release calendar' gets created before this release [18:39:12] Zaran: wanted to tell you about http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2012-March/058790.html [18:39:34] New code comment: Platonides; The problem is probably that it had a completely wrong eol-style: \
 \ Property changes on: trunk/; 
[18:41:30] 	 sumanah : oh yes, I've read that, I'm not sure what I could do there... anyway, the deadline is over now I think
[18:41:32] 	 03(mod) Moving sha1 into revision tag in XML dumps - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34963  (10Rob Lanphier)
[18:41:47] 	 Zaran: no, it's later today
[18:42:05] 	 Zaran: I gave a sample list of talk ideas  at the end of that email
[18:42:06] 	 03(mod) Add block permissions in rollback on Lusophone Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35261  +comment (10Chico Venancio)
[18:43:05] 	 sumanah: one of my patch needs review. But really not sure whom to ask https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33928
[18:43:18] 	 sumanah : "various approaches to making our data more structured/semantic" : at least two talks about that have been proposed for the Wikimania, and it would definitely be of much interest for Wikisource
[18:44:41] 	 nischayn22: one way we are trying to get patches reviewed faster is https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_engineering_20%25_policy -- any Wikimedia Foundation developers who are listed there as saying that Friday is their community service day are people you can ping today
[18:45:39] 	 03jeroendedauw *  10/trunk/extensions/EducationProgram/ (EducationProgram.php specials/SpecialCachedPage.php): adding abstract page to not have to duplicate caching code to much
[18:47:37] 	 03(mod) remove local stewards user group - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32593  +comment (10Ruslan)
[18:49:19] 	 AaronSchulz: you got a second for a couple of probably stupid FlaggedRevs questions?
[18:49:29] 	 Reedy: Hi
[18:50:04] 	 sumanah: that's an awesome policy :)
[18:50:38] 	 Hi
[18:51:16] 	 Reedy: could you look into my patch https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33928
[18:51:34] 	 03(mod) Do not mark edits as minor by default on new section or new page creation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27860  +comment (10Fabrice Laussy)
[18:51:59] 	 Trying to troubleshoot and allow .zip files to be uploaded. I have been using $wgFileExtensions = array('png'... in localsettings wich has been working great. Untill I tried to ad a .zip. the upload page just reloads with no error messages. and nothing shows up in the logs. same experiance with chrome, ie, firefox. MediaWiki 1.18, PHP 5.3.8. Any ideas? - Thanks in advance.
[18:55:49] 	 03(mod) take over jquery.tipsy plugin - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35241  +comment (10fur.hewiki)
[18:55:49] 	 AaronSchulz: when you have a second, i could use some help figuring out how to get flagged revs on my local instance display 'reject revision'
[18:55:58] 	 03(NEW) Filter list=usercontribs by ucshow=new - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35268 normal; MediaWiki: API; (zarambie_game)
[18:56:54] 	 03(mod) Clean up current images with wrong SHA1 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34755  summary; +comment (10Rob Lanphier)
[19:00:22] 	 03(mod) Moving sha1 into revision tag in XML dumps - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34963  +comment (10Rob Lanphier)
[19:01:48] 	 hashar: i assumed he wrote in english because he doesn't write japanese or he wasn't confident that he could do so accurately
[19:06:25] 	 sumanah: plenty of confusion over the fact that the GSoC organizations list is buggy.
[19:06:31] 	 it doesn't have mediawiki in it, for example :)
[19:06:38] 	 yes.
[19:06:42] 	 I am filling out that profile right now
[19:06:49] 	 sumanah: aha
[19:06:52] 	 yuvipanda: its size increases with time too
[19:06:55] 	 so it'll turn up once you do that?
[19:07:11] 	 yes
[19:07:13] 	 biab
[19:07:38] 	 jeremyb: were you talking about the mediawiki-l message ?
[19:07:42] 	 yes
[19:08:13] 	 jeremyb: I am confused. Who are you in that thread ? :)
[19:08:23] 	 svip ?
[19:08:36] 	 Yes?
[19:08:53] 	 hashar: i'm not
[19:08:58] 	 svip: sorry to have pinged you. Was referring to a japanese message in wikitech-l :)
[19:09:14] 	 and i was referring to svip. and i'm not sorry to ping ;)
[19:09:26] 	 I avoided writing in Japanese, because I could not do it justice.
[19:09:34] 	 as i suspected
[19:10:13] 	 at first I thought that svip replied in english because that is what is used on the list 
[19:10:21] 	 sumanah: wikimedia foundation has not been selected in GSOC 12?
[19:10:35] 	 and apologized to the thread author for replying in english instead of japanese
[19:10:41] 	 akshayagarwal: check again it has been selected
[19:10:42] 	 akshayagarwal: yes we have.
[19:10:46] 	 I just hope he understand english :)
[19:10:49] 	 03(NEW) Temporally revert addition of the proposal name space on steward wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35269 major; Wikimedia: Site requests; (Ruslik00)
[19:10:49] 	 akshayagarwal: it has been
[19:11:08] 	 sumanah: I think then, its the Melange again which has been problematic
[19:11:27] 	 hashar: Someone summarised my message in Japanese.
[19:11:31] 	 i was totally shocked to not see Wikimedia Foundation on the list
[19:11:34] 	 akshayagarwal: the list is not full
[19:11:35] 	 svip: saw that :)
[19:11:36] 	 hashar: someone followed up with (I assume) what svip just said ;P
[19:12:03] 	 akshayagarwal: see https://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2012 again
[19:12:07] 	 I see it now
[19:12:11] 	 dinner time!  have fun :)
[19:12:13] 	 1 minute before it wasnt there
[19:12:24] 	 I remember a while back we debated the language on foundation-l, and we decided to technically allow any language.
[19:12:27] 	 the list is getting constantly updated
[19:12:52] 	 03(mod) Temporally revert addition of the proposal name space on steward wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35269  +comment (10Jeremy Baron)
[19:12:58] 	 akshayagarwal: the situation is: I got an email from GSoC about 90 minutes ago that mentioned that I should fill out my org profile.  It did NOT say that this was (unlike last year, I believe) a prerequisite to showing up in the list of accepted orgs in Melange.
[19:13:06] 	 03(mod) Update jquery.tipsy plugin to latest version - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33562  +comment (10fur.hewiki)
[19:13:38] 	 akshayagarwal: therefore I went and manually created the profile.  Nearly everything was just copying and pasting stuff from info I had already supplied Google in the org application. :-/
[19:14:08] 	 sumanah: we know how Melange is :( it doesnt seem to improve
[19:14:29] 	 03(mod) Temporally revert addition of the proposal name space on steward wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35269  +comment (10sam)
[19:15:13] 	 03(FIXED) Temporally revert addition of the proposal name space on steward wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35269  +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[19:15:23] 	 akshayagarwal: https://blog.wikimedia.org/2012/03/16/project-ideas-students-and-mentors-wanted-for-paid-software-work-this-summer/
[19:16:08] 	 akshayagarwal: it is somewhat improved from last year.
[19:16:29] 	 potter: nischayn22 yuvipanda https://blog.wikimedia.org/2012/03/16/project-ideas-students-and-mentors-wanted-for-paid-software-work-this-summer/
[19:17:33] 	 you may also want to read https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Summer_of_Code_2012/management#GSoC_management_philosophy to see how I will be managing this year
[19:17:47] 	 03(mod) Upload video files > 100 MB upload to Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35246  +comment (10antoinemotteditfalisse)
[19:20:00] 	 03(mod) Feature request: Upload refuses if no file-extension is specified - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29789  +comment (10vivekee047)
[19:22:53] 	 sumanah, the blog post's title is misleading: it says that mentors will be paid too:)
[19:23:00] 	 oh dammit
[19:23:02] * sumanah  fixes
[19:23:03] 	 sumanah: "Don't make Sumana a bottleneck " :D
[19:23:04] 	 thanks MaxSem 
[19:24:32] 	 sumanah: you may also want to update https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Summer_of_Code_2012/management/status
[19:24:48] 	 yeah
[19:24:50] 	 thanks, will do
[19:26:01] 	 akshayagarwal: done
[19:26:06] 	 sumanah: the management process appears to be quite strict on first glance, but having been a part of the process in the last year, I support your stand
[19:26:32] 	 thank you akshayagarwal 
[19:26:51] 	 akshayagarwal: yes, I figure we've been too lax in previous years and judging from outcomes it's time to try it the other way :)
[19:27:22] 	 akshayagarwal: if you want to leave that as a talkpage comment I'd be glad :D
[19:27:24] 	 03foxtrott *  10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/forminputs/SF_FormInput.php: bugfix (using backtrace does not work for free text)
[19:27:56] 	 sumanah: i had one of my patches not reviewed 
[19:27:57] 	 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14623
[19:28:19] 	 i had totally forgotten tis
[19:28:21] 	 this*
[19:29:42] 	 potter: :-) re bottleneck.  And awjr, Reedy, and MaxSem are among the people who can review your patches today (it's Friday and that is their community service day)
[19:30:19] 	 :)
[19:30:26] 	 MaxSem: could you please review this patch 
[19:30:27] * sumanah  adds "Summer of Code 2012/management" statusline magic and changes title of post: https://blog.wikimedia.org/2012/03/16/project-ideas-students-and-mentors-wanted-gsoc-2012/
[19:30:47] 	 sumanah: added my comment on the talk page
[19:30:53] 	 thank you akshayagarwal 
[19:31:28] 	 well, whole week is my community service, each day a bit:)
[19:31:36] 	 ok :)
[19:31:52] 	 AaaronSchulz: nevermind, i figured it out
[19:31:58] 	 akshayagarwal: hey..are you applying for GSoC 2012 ?
[19:32:26] 	 MaxSem: i was just going to say that for you, Reedy & awjr as I have been the subject of your community service many times :)
[19:32:39] 	 whole gsoc code never got reviewed and merged is really a nightmare
[19:33:44] 	 potter: I am trying to find that out from my academic schedule, my contribution to MediaWiki would continue regardless of GSoC
[19:34:13] 	 ashish_d: 
[19:34:21] 	 ashish_d: by mistake again
[19:34:35] 	 akshayagarwal: :)
[19:34:38] 	 No problem :)
[19:34:46] 	 potter: i think you are applying this year? 
[19:34:47] 	 nischayn22, not everything's so bad: some projects were merged, some are still waiting for a merge like transwiki transclusion and my student's gadget options, but they will definitely be merged
[19:35:04] 	 akshayagarwal: yes!
[19:36:01] 	 potter: great! it would be one of the best experiences of your life, should you be selected, even more if selected in a community like MediaWiki
[19:36:56] 	 MaxSem: That's good. It doesn't sound nice if the both time and code gets wasted
[19:37:25] 	 nischayn22: well, GSoC is a program primarily to get students learning & growing & into FLOSS
[19:37:35] 	 nischayn22: so, the time won't be wasted
[19:37:44] 	 nischayn22: but it is an important secondary benefit that the code get used
[19:38:20] 	 sumanah, nischayn22: and a matter of pride, as well ^
[19:38:42] 	 akshayagarwal:yeah
[19:39:17] 	 akshayagarwal,sumanah: the most important think is the pride, according to me!
[19:39:47] * yuvipanda  's code is still in limbo due to me not having time for it, but hey I sortof turned out okay :)
[19:39:51] 	 heatherw: now that we have been accepted into Google Summer of Code, we can officially mention it on our https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MediaWiki_flyer_student2012.svg flyer -- no rush, though
[19:40:07] 	 heh
[19:40:18] 	 okay sumanah!
[19:40:20] 	 sumanah: We can learn without gsoc too, though a mentor is really a plus-point in gsoc
[19:40:27] 	 yes
[19:40:31] 	 hi pallav 
[19:40:44] 	 !gsoc
[19:40:44] 	 MediaWiki participates in the Google Summer of Code mentorship program. http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/GSoC Please read http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCStudentGuide/ if you're thinking of applying to GSoC.
[19:40:50] 	 I'll update that.
[19:40:59] 	 sumanah: many developers have helped me in making patches, a mentor for a day :)
[19:41:08] 	 and that's how it ought to be :D
[19:41:37] 	 sumanah: btw, have you heard anything from the Wikimania team about the scholarship confirmations? they seem to be very busy :)
[19:42:14] 	 akshayagarwal: I haven't, sorry
[19:42:15] 	 !gsoc
[19:42:16] 	 MediaWiki participates in the Google Summer of Code mentorship program. http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/GSoC Please read http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCStudentGuide/ if you're thinking of applying to GSoC.
[19:42:46] * yuvipanda  used to describe GSoC as 'fast track to community acceptance and commit access'
[19:45:09] 	 Can one use CentralNotice on projects other than those of WMF ?
[19:46:19] 	 sumanah : hi sumanah, 
[19:46:25] 	 hi chughakshay16 
[19:46:45] 	 I assume u read my mail.. :)
[19:46:47] 	 sumanah: are we going to have projects related to jQuery, Android, MySQL etc? if yes, you may want to add the same on our GSoC org profile page, I remember last year, I used the tags search to findout MediaWiki based on my preferences, having all the platforms listed on the org page may help us in attracting more students
[19:46:51] 	 akshayagarwal: have you tried asking in #wikimania ?
[19:46:56] 	 akshayagarwal: ok
[19:47:48] 	 just now I was seeking a 65px by 65px version of our logo to add
[19:47:52] 	 sumanah : i assume u read my mail ...
[19:48:03] 	 I did chughakshay16 
[19:48:12] 	 I'm sorry, I have been traveling and have had very little time to respond
[19:48:22] 	 sumanah : okay, thnaks
[19:49:09] 	 sumanah : so what do you suggest ?
[19:49:26] 	 chughakshay16: I don't know yet -- do you need an answer absolutely now, or can it wait till monday/
[19:49:36] 	 i saw your mail and haven't had time to read it thoroughly
[19:49:44] 	 sumanah : :) yeah np
[19:50:25] 	 sumanah : i have started writing a prototype for it.. so just needed to know if anyone even would be interested in such a thing
[19:51:07] 	 chughakshay16: please email wikitech-l
[19:51:15] 	 chughakshay16: I'm sorry, please do not bottleneck on me
[19:51:33] 	 03reedy *  10/branches/wmf/1.19wmf1/extensions/MoodBar/ (8 files in 4 dirs): MFT r113953, r113955, r113984, r114018
[19:51:34] 	 varnent: maybe you can help out today?
[19:51:41] 	 sumanah : i have done that already.. but i thought it would seem too desperate if i do it again
[19:51:43] 	 I am just swamped because today is also the deadline for some other things
[19:51:56] 	 03(mod) Do not mark edits as minor by default on new section or new page creation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27860  +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[19:51:59] 	 *if i did it again
[19:53:44] 	 sumanah : okay, i will catch up with u later.. may be on monday
[19:54:24] 	 03(mod) Write git localization import scripts for translatewiki.net - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34137  +comment (10sumanah)
[19:54:33] 	 chughakshay16: also feel free to consult with varnent who is the other admin of MediaWiki's participation in GSoC
[19:54:49] 	 sumanah : okay
[19:54:57] 	 varent : hi ,
[19:55:31] 	 varnent : sorry misspelled it earlier
[19:56:06] 	 !tabcompletion | chughakshay16 
[19:56:06] 	 chughakshay16: Instead of manually typing another person's nickname in IRC, you can type the beginning of their name and hit TAB on your keyboard to get it autocompleted, like on the command line.  This avoids misspellings.  Just make sure it's the right person!
[19:56:44] 	 sumanah, thanks ... didnt know this :)
[19:58:03] 	 varnent : ...
[20:01:37] 	 hey, a quick question, does statistics content pages include redirects?
[20:18:15] 	 03(mod) Enable $wgAllowCopyUploads (upload by URL) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/20512  +comment (10M8R-udfkkf)
[20:18:38] 	 03rmoen *  10/trunk/extensions/VisualEditor/modules/ve/ (3 files in 3 dirs): adapt LinkInspector to use surfaceObserver for selection
[20:20:04] 	 New code comment: Siebrand; Indeed. http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:SVG_sovereign_state_flags is your friend.; 
[20:21:52] 	 sumanah, Hi 
[20:22:01] 	 hi Raylton 
[20:24:14] 	 sumanah,  I signed up here:http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/google/gsoc2012/wikimedia   and I'm reading the documentation. I need some more things for now?
[20:24:36] 	 Raylton: have you already read the GSoC mentoring guide?
[20:24:43] 	 Raylton: http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCMentoring/
[20:25:11] 	 Nikerabbit: so what about that FR code?
[20:25:21] 	 sumanah, I'm reading, and making my notes
[20:27:51] 	 Great
[20:29:02] 	 03(mod) namespace required for "PORTAL" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34923  +comment (10Gitartha Bordoloi)
[20:29:12] 	 Raylton: I'm sorry for the delay in getting back to you -- I'm just a little swamped today
[20:29:28] 	 Ah... she's here...
[20:29:38] * Dantman  wonders if he should add some water to the swamp
[20:30:12] 	 sumanah, i also  sign this list: https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!forum/google-summer-of-code-discuss
[20:30:29] 	 Raylton: good idea
[20:30:37] 	 Dantman: go ahead and ask, I may just say no or no-for-now :)
[20:30:46] 	 heh
[20:31:45] 	 03(mod) restore missing file version DB records - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35048  summary (10Aaron Schulz)
[20:32:14] 	 sumanah: I was wondering if there were any WMF contacts to Googlers I could use... I tried posting a question in Google's Webmaster Central some time ago about Google's index and something we were doing inside of MediaWiki and was never able to get an answer. So I was hoping I could use some contacts to get that fairly technical question up to someone at Google that could answer it.
[20:32:26] 	 ah
[20:32:37] 	 Dantman: I know we know people at Google
[20:32:47] 	 sumanah, I need something else for now?
[20:33:04] 	 Dantman: what's the question? have you spelled it out? can you link to where you asked it on GWC?
[20:33:17] 	 Raylton: I think you're asking whether you need to say or do anything else?
[20:33:33] 	 sumanah: https://groups.google.com/a/googleproductforums.com/forum/#!category-topic/webmasters/crawling-indexing--ranking/VGKvVSlsRgw
[20:34:35] 	 03(NEW) [regression] text and icons overlap in the settings menu in RTL locale - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35270 major; Wikipedia App: Localization/Translation/Language; (amir.aharoni)
[20:34:35] 	 03(mod) Menus in the Android app are not correctly oriented in right-to-left locales - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34168  (10Amir E. Aharoni)
[20:36:16] 	 sumanah, if I do not need anything else to be a mentor
[20:36:27] 	 Raylton: aha!  
[20:36:43] 	 Raylton: and remind me - you already read https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Summer_of_Code_2012/management ?
[20:37:18] 	 Raylton: basically, I will ask you some more questions in the next few weeks
[20:37:21] 	 Raylton: I'm sorry for the wait
[20:37:43] 	 anybody want a free PHP book? http://www.brandonsavage.net/php-playbook-giveaway/ 
[20:38:08] 	 a book? o_O
[20:39:08] 	 I've always considered books to be horrible materials for programming language learning
[20:39:22] 	 03raymond *  10/trunk/ (65 files in 38 dirs): Localisation updates for core and extension messages from translatewiki.net
[20:39:58] 	 yeah, creating your own programming language is always better - that's how PHP was invented, after all
[20:40:09] 	 sumanah,  read https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Summer_of_Code_2012/management  =D I write here(http://pt.wikibooks.org/wiki/Utilizador:Raylton_P._Sousa/GSoC) the documantation to read 
[20:40:38] 	 sumanah, i read this link 
[20:41:07] 	 Raylton: great
[20:41:32] 	 Dantman: your opinion is noted and filed.
[20:41:38] 	 04(REOPENED) se.wikimedia.org: allow users to edit their userpage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35185  -shellpolicy +shell; +comment (10p858snake)
[20:42:10] 	 sumanah, thank you, I will wait your questions.
[20:42:15] 	 Thanks Raylton 
[20:43:47] 	 sumanah: Filed? ;) Not ticketed and inserted into a database?
[20:44:03] 	 Dantman: maybe you should read "roundfiled" ;-)
[20:44:35] 	 sumanah, 
[20:44:35] 	 portugu�singl�sespanhol
[20:44:35] 	 one more question ... this page: (https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Summer_of_Code_2012/Application_template) is for students and not for the mentors, right?
[20:44:46] 	 Yes, Raylton, you're right
[20:46:12] 	 ;) round filing http://us.cdn1.123rf.com/168nwm/jezper/jezper0910/jezper091000039/5679967-rotating-file-device.jpg ?
[20:46:58] 	 Dantman: "roundfiling" is usually a euphemism for "throwing it away in a trash can" (a round garbage bin) ;-)
[20:47:06] 	 Raylton: I've improved the page to reflect that, thanks
[20:47:14] 	 ;) Sure, just playing with words.
[20:47:36] 	 Dantman: ha! 
[20:47:53] 	 Dantman: btw, Roan didn't know what a Rolodex was half a year ago; I mentioned it and he was like "what"
[20:48:04] 	 sumanah, Cool =D 
[20:48:05] 	 heh... ahh, that was the name
[20:48:13] 	 do not confuse with Rolex :D
[20:48:19] 	 heh
[20:48:22] 	 or your wrist will get really heavy!
[20:48:26] 	 half a year ago would be appropriate time when I learnt of rolodexes
[20:48:36] 	 but that was pretty much in the context of 'LinkedIn for older people'
[20:48:42] 	 :D
[20:48:54] 	 true
[20:51:47] 	 sumanah: What do you think about using Wikipedia for awhile using this userscript and telling me if it creates any problems? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Dantman/vector.js
[20:52:14] 	 Dantman: I think I'm a bad test subject right now, ask me again in a week?
[20:52:52] 	 sumanah, one more thing (I'm boring).I direct my student to request access to mediawiki commit  in an extension? or he must work in a other  cvs server (like google code)?
[20:53:02] 	 also Dantman re https://groups.google.com/a/googleproductforums.com/forum/#!category-topic/webmasters/crawling-indexing--ranking/VGKvVSlsRgw my suggestion is to email wikitech-l and ask for people to bubble it up to Google people they know
[20:53:16] 	 Raylton: do not worry! you are not boring :-D    he should work in our repository
[20:53:40] 	 Raylton: if Aashish has not yet requested a Git/Gerrit account and requested a new Git repository then he should do so
[20:53:41] 	 !git
[20:53:41] 	 MediaWiki development is going to use git, a distributed source control manager, starting in the spring of 2012; details: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git_happens https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Workflow
[20:53:42] 	 !gerrit
[20:53:42] 	 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/
[20:53:51] 	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/New_repositories
[20:54:07] 	 ;) And the beauty of git is you don't even need commit access
[20:54:41] 	 I've been working on some projects in branches without even committing them to svn
[20:55:06] 	 Dantman: well, you need a Gerrit/Git account :-/  but at least that is easier to get
[20:55:29] 	 ;) Not if you commit to github while you're waiting
[20:56:11] 	 https://github.com/dantman/mediawiki-core/branches
[20:56:11] 	 sumanah: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Dash1291/GSoC_2012_Application
[20:56:18] 	 sumanah: btw https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/
[20:56:22] 	 does not load in IE9
[20:56:54] 	 ashley: check whether that's marked as a bug at Gerrit's bugtracker? and add it to https://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/wiki/Gerrit_bugs_that_matter ?
[20:56:59] 	 thank you ashish_d 
[20:57:08] 	 varnent: ping
[20:57:21] 	 sumanah, ok, thank's =D
[20:57:26] 	 ashley: compatibility view?
[20:57:26] 	 glad to help Raylton 
[20:57:36] 	 *compatibility
[20:58:02] 	 Jarry1250: funky, it works with compatibility view! thanks for the tip :-)
[20:58:18] 	 (but I'll never get used to non-SVN VCS...)
[20:58:26] 	 Never say never :P
[21:01:21] 	 true that, but I tried mercurial and I found it, well, an epic clusterfuck -- but aren't DVCS that by design? I don't see what's so wrong with SVN that we absolutely must switch to a DVCS and soon...
[21:03:11] 	 ashley: Nooooo... I don't want to keep using ssh + diff + svn to make commits
[21:04:06] 	 AaronSchulz: well, I can't test it (so review it), but siebrand wants me to deploy it
[21:04:45] 	 Dantman: although I mostly use(d) TortoiseSVN, I didn't have any problems with ssh + diff + svn either :-D
[21:05:13] 	 ashley: ;) Try missing a file every single time you create a new one and having to make followup commits.
[21:05:32] 	 03(mod) Create user preferences for hiding CentralNotice banners - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33941  +comment (10Nischay Nahata)
[21:05:40] 	 amend!
[21:06:12] 	 ashley: indeed svn has been more sane to use atleast for me than dvcs like git
[21:06:14] 	 And by ssh + diff + svn I mean that I made changes on a remote server, and then ran `ssh servername "cd /path/to/project; svn diff" | patch -p0` in order to move my changes to a local working copy I could commit from
[21:06:53] 	 With git I just make the commit on the remote server (and I can even do it with a gui) and then pull and push from local
[21:07:23] 	 Then there is git's stash functionality and private branches
[21:07:54] 	 Here's some code for adding ContentSecurityPolicy to MediaWiki https://github.com/dantman/mediawiki-core/compare/master...csp
[21:08:18] 	 That would be sitting around in a stale working copy, patchfile, or disappear completely...
[21:08:42] 	 ;) But now you can actually see it, improve it, and merge it into MW if someone is interested
[21:08:53] 	 admittedly SVN's not perfect (but what is?), but...switching VCS instead of trying to address issues in the old VCS seems like mowing your lawn with a tank
[21:09:50] 	 (and it would've been a bit easier for me to try to accept this change had there been some kind of a formal poll rather than some discussion in wikitech-l and a "let's do this" months later...just my $0.02)
[21:10:20] 	 months?
[21:10:31] 	 ;) We've had SEVERAL discussions over the span of years.
[21:11:14] 	 And you can't fix what is broken by design.
[21:11:56] 	 That's like saying you should 'fix' WordPress to work like MediaWiki instead of just using MediaWiki.
[21:13:48] 	 hey ppl, complex question: i've found the ean barcode extension, i want to let it work together with template {{{1}}} input. currently it writes the {{{1}}} in the barcode, it seems rendering kicks off too early. It is coded as being a hook, what would make it render after the {{{1}}} is parsed to the value given to the template?
[21:14:17] 	 Dantman: if you want to do that, you should fix wordpress to be wordpress first ;P
[21:14:27] 	 heh
[21:16:35] 	 ashley: svn's horrible branching support kills many an ambitious project... Git's branching on the other hand makes me think I might actually finish this one https://github.com/dantman/mediawiki-core/compare/master...skinrewrite
[21:17:10] 	 Ultimately, WMF/volunteer developers are buyers and not creators of VC-systems.
[21:17:25] 	 So if the VC-system is not up to the job, there's not much fixing that can be done.
[21:17:39] 	 VC?
[21:17:56] 	 Sorry, version control.
[21:18:48] 	 vcs
[21:18:56] 	 Right.
[21:19:04] 	 New code comment: Platonides; Use parentLengths instead of parentLens?; 
[21:19:10] 	 Venture Capital!!!
[21:19:10] 	 The years of architecture built around SVN make it a bit annoying to switch.
[21:19:13] 	 Speaking of which,
[21:19:18] 	 git.wikimedia.org should be the address, surely.
[21:19:36] 	 I thought Wikimedia decided to stop using product names as subdomains.
[21:19:40] 	 Because it's a stupid idea.
[21:24:30] 	 Joan, bugzilla.wikimedia.org?
[21:24:48] 	 Krenair: What about it?
[21:24:53] 	  I thought Wikimedia decided to stop using product names as subdomains.
[21:24:59] 	 If they did then that would have to go
[21:25:11] 	 You can deprecate the practice.
[21:25:17] 	 Or, sure, move it.
[21:25:20] 	 To bugs.wikimedia.org.
[21:30:29] 	 hmm... en.mediawiki.wikipedia.org
[21:32:38] 	 Is it possible to use nofollow only for specific links?
[21:32:52] 	 !nofollow
[21:32:52] 	 You can disable nofollow on external links by adding $wgNoFollowLinks=false; in LocalSettings.php or to some domains only adding $wgNoFollowDomainExceptions = array( 'domaintofollow.com' );
[21:34:29] 	 We should have a gui tool for smaller wiki that scans all domains linked to and lets them individually accept or reject nofollow status
[21:37:33] 	 I just wish anti-spam was more... productive
[21:37:57] 	 you would think since of nofollow, that they would even try
[21:38:13] 	 I see.
[21:38:29] 	 I was just wondering if I could put a nofollow attribute on a link manually.
[21:38:48] 	 you would think since of nofollow, that they would even try
[21:39:05] 	 Now that I think about it, it would be helpful if there were a feature that required manual intervention to make a link "dofollow".
[21:39:14] 	 In addition to the whitelist.
[21:40:19] 	 Lo
[21:40:24] 	 JRWR: go ahead & file that as a feature request!
[21:40:28] 	 JRWR: that could be useful
[21:40:34] 	 hi freakolowsky 
[21:40:44] 	 btw freakolowsky are you interested in mentoring Google Summer of Code this year?
[21:42:03] 	 Hmmm ... i might be ... never did that ... what do i have to do?
[21:43:17] 	 freakolowsky: skim http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCMentoring/ to get an idea
[21:43:49] 	 freakolowsky: you may also be interested in skimming https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Summer_of_Code_2012/management#GSoC_management_philosophy and the last few paragraphs of https://blog.wikimedia.org/2012/03/16/project-ideas-students-and-mentors-wanted-gsoc-2012/ 
[21:44:16] 	 Will take a look ... when i get home ... bored at a
[21:44:36] 	  Pub right now ... on my phone
[21:44:53] 	 enjoy :)
[21:45:04] 	 New code comment: Awjrichards; I know the issue here is addressed in the release notes (r110620), but shouldn't these changes be ma; 
[21:45:27] 	 :) surrounded with iJunkies
[21:47:54] 	 Anyone going to berlin this year ... just so i know if i should annoy my boss to cover my expenses :)
[21:48:41] 	 freakolowsky: you're talking about https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Berlin_Hackathon_2012 ?
[21:48:44] 	 !berlin
[21:48:44] 	 I don't know anything about "berlin".
[21:48:48] 	 !berlin is https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Berlin_Hackathon_2012
[21:48:48] 	 Successfully added keyword: berlin
[21:48:55] 	 Yep
[21:51:21] 	 03(mod) $wgBlockDisablesLogin - effective on a private wiki? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35252  (10jasper)
[21:51:36] 	 sumanah: I'm going three times to berlin this year and the hackathon is the last one of those :)
[21:51:47] 	 Nikerabbit: hope you enjoy! :)
[21:52:05] 	 03foxtrott *  10/trunk/extensions/SemanticResultFormats/Filtered/ (3 files in 3 dirs): value filter height; some refactoring
[21:52:16] 	 Sumanah you ain't going?
[21:52:28] 	 freakolowsky: I am indeed going.  I'm one of the organizers.
[21:52:30] 	 03inez *  10/trunk/extensions/VisualEditor/modules/ve/ce/ve.ce.Surface.js: No more endless looping! And fix getSelectionRect to return document relative coordiantes instead of viewport relative.
[21:52:46] 	 Didn't think it was necessary to add myself as a participant as well, but if you think it's not clear, go ahead and add me to that list
[21:52:54] 	 that's why i asked
[21:55:35] 	 03(NEW) Add keystone support - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35271 normal; MediaWiki extensions: OpenStackManager; (rlane32)
[21:57:34] 	 03(mod) MediaWiki needs more cute animals (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28597  +comment (10Ryan Lane)
[22:00:49] 	 Trying to troubleshoot and allow .zip files to be uploaded. I have been using $wgFileExtensions = array('png'... in localsettings wich has been working great. Untill I tried to ad a .zip. the upload page just reloads with no error messages. and nothing shows up in the logs. same experiance with chrome, ie, firefox. MediaWiki 1.18, PHP 5.3.8. Any ideas? - Thanks in advance.
[22:00:54] 	 03rmoen *  10/trunk/extensions/VisualEditor/modules/ve/ui/ve.ui.Inspector.js: CE surface has no hidden input, removed input focus
[22:01:15] 	 sumanah: If you want to make http://opensourcebridge.org/proposals/758 be co-presented, that'd rock by me
[22:01:21] 	 03inez *  10/trunk/extensions/VisualEditor/modules/ve/ce/ve.ce.Surface.js: Use on and off insteaf of bind and unbind.
[22:01:23] 	 If you have enough to talk about by yourself, that's okay too (:
[22:02:05] 	 paulproteus: NO LET'S TOTALLY COPRESENT
[22:03:45] 	 I want to make sure that if we do, we leave room in the conference program for a solid Boston Python Workshop for women+friends talk
[22:04:02] 	 paulproteus: added you as copresenter
[22:04:05] 	 Sweet
[22:04:25] 	 Want to just leave it at that for now, and if we get picked, figure out how to make it work great?
[22:04:31] 	 ok! yeah let's do that
[22:05:11] 	 paulproteus: I totally stole many lessons from you/OpenHatch/Boston, FYI
[22:05:14] 	 (:
[22:05:28] 	 as you can potentially tell from links on https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/January_2012_San_Francisco_Hackathon
[22:05:34] 	 New code comment: Aaron Schulz; *This both avoids an extra query; 
[22:08:57] 	 shaun_: after your earlier question I tried uploading a zip file in a local 1.19 env and succeeded.  however, I was reading http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/File_upload and found "In addition, $wgMimeTypeBlacklist prevents certain file types based on MIME type; .zip files, for example, are prohibited based on MIME type"  could that be your issue?
[22:09:10] 	 gottago now ... will look at GSoC stuff in the morning ... l8r
[22:09:51] 	 can anybody point me out to info on how to use template input in extensions? what hook should i use??
[22:13:16] 	 chrismcmahon: its possible, i did try sifting through some other strante mime data files. i didnt change anything. but zips are listed as applications.
[22:13:58] 	 03rfaulk *  10/trunk/tools/wsor/message_templates/umetrics/generators/ (__init__.py edit_counts.py edit_counts_no_namespace.py): Added new metrics generator to count edits in all namespaces together
[22:14:09] 	 chrismcmahon: i suppose im looking for a work arround to this. I am not currently using $wgMimeTypeBlacklist and according to that documentation. i didn't think it applied to 1.18.
[22:14:34] 	 03(mod) Add keystone support - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35271  normal->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[22:14:56] 	 03(mod) Filter list=usercontribs by ucshow=new - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35268  normal->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[22:15:26] 	 shaun_: I'm pretty new here myself, if I run across something I'll let you know
[22:15:30] 	 sumanah: Depending on time, do you think we can incorporate a discussion of campus.openhatch.org into that 
[22:15:32] 	 ?
[22:15:36] 	 03(mod) Add a direct unwatch link to entries on Special:Watchlist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/424  +comment (10javaron)
[22:16:30] 	 paulproteus: lemme look
[22:16:30] 	 03inez *  10/trunk/extensions/VisualEditor/modules/ve/ (ce/ve.ce.Surface.js ui/inspectors/ve.ui.LinkInspector.js): Make LinkInspector works (using annotate method in SurfaceView)
[22:16:47] 	 I can say plenty about how we've adjusted it over time, so I think it would likely fit.
[22:16:49] 	 03rfaulk *  10/trunk/tools/wsor/message_templates/R/R_helper_functions.R:
[22:16:49] 	 added method counts.to.samples -- Take a list of counts and produce a new list of samples with the same distribution of those counts
[22:16:49] 	 some logic to handle 0 templates that are used as dummy metric files to append data.frames in build.data.frames
[22:19:02] 	 paulproteus: ok! will add
[22:19:14] 	 sumanah: Oh -- I just meant let's add it in the future, not at this moment to the propsal
[22:19:17] 	 proposal
[22:19:18] 	 03rfaulk *  10/trunk/tools/wsor/message_templates/R/ (template_analysis.R visualize_edits_decrease.R): updated scripts to allow for more flexibility in handling parameters
[22:19:21] * awjr  waves to paulproteus
[22:19:24] 	 Hi awjr!!
[22:19:28] 	 :D
[22:19:29] 	 I'm at 101 Post St.
[22:19:39] 	 shaun_: there was a nice entry on ZIP in bugzilla, let me find it for you - we could not upload ODT files for example as well (as they are technically also ZIPs)
[22:19:59] 	 paulproteus: are you back in sf til further notice now?
[22:20:28] 	 Basically, yeah -- that's truly true post-LibrePlanet, as of Apr 1.
[22:20:29] 	 03rmoen *  10/trunk/extensions/VisualEditor/modules/ve/ui/tools/ve.ui.ClearButtonTool.js: make clear button tool work with annotate method in ce surface
[22:20:35] 	 Well, so it looks like ill have to move forward a version to 1.19 then huh?!
[22:20:35] 	 03(FIXED) Mass-create a bunch of Gerrit accounts for existing SVN committers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35209  (10Ryan Lane)
[22:20:47] 	 heh sweet! 
[22:20:49] 	 shaun_: pure ban on zips has been replaced by more intelligent detection of Java executable code (this was a primary concern with old versions of Internet Explorer that could execute Java code sneakedin as .zip)
[22:20:59] 	 i've moved to tucson, az myself, but i'll be back in sf periodically
[22:21:03] 	 shaun_: you can backport the patch I guess :)
[22:21:42] 	 saper: would you have instructions on how to do this?
[22:24:45] 	 thanks saper for the historical knowledge :)
[22:27:40] 	 shaun_: em... er.... would need to test
[22:27:58] 	 ok, is there an upgrade process from 1.18 to 1.19?
[22:28:03] 	 yes
[22:28:06] 	 easy
[22:28:14] 	 php maintenance/update.php
[22:31:34] 	 !b 24230 | shaun_ 
[22:31:34] 	 shaun_: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24230
[22:31:57] 	 called "Implement JAR detection"
[22:33:29] 	 thanks for your help in this.
[22:33:48] 	 is this the documentation on the bug, with the fix?
[22:33:54] 	 this is a bug
[22:34:01] 	 oh alright.
[22:34:06] 	 and it says fixed in r-something
[22:34:18] 	 r-something is a fine-grained version number
[22:34:49] 	 I don't think logentry-newusers-autocreate should begin with 'Account '
[22:35:08] 	 Because the normal account creation log messages do not: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Log
[22:35:45] 	 shaun_: fixed in r82783 - clicking on "r82783" takes you to https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/82783 which describes the actual code that was "checked in" to fix this
[22:36:12] 	 very roughly speaking mediawiki releases after this date should have the change included (it's *mostly* true)
[22:36:27] 	 thanks, i think i have enought information for now;)
[22:37:08] 	 Another happy customer^G
[22:37:58] 	 thanks again saper, I'm glad to know that too :)
[22:47:15] 	 03(mod) Don't autologin if local account doesn't exist (don't autocreate if user doesn't explicitly login) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/19161  +comment (10verdy_p)
[22:54:03] 	 03(NEW) Account creation messages inconsistent - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35272 trivial; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (krenair)
[22:54:17] 	 Ryan_Lane: it would be nice if wmflabs.org pointed somewhere
[22:54:24] 	 agreed
[22:54:29] 	 we need a portal page or something
[22:58:49] 	 03(mod) Pages loading without formatting too often - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29153  (10mybugs.mail)
[23:02:27] 	 03rfaulk *  10/trunk/tools/wsor/message_templates/umetrics/generators/__init__.py: added import statement for EditCountsNoNamespace class
[23:03:00] 	 03(NEW) Weird GET requests in user script - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35273 normal; MediaWiki: Javascript; (mybugs.mail)
[23:10:27] 	 03(mod) Speedup nested group authentication when using Active Directory LDAP - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33904  +comment (10rlane32)
[23:11:00] 	 robla: I'm about to leave for dinner, will be online again tonight
[23:12:28] 	 03(mod) Don't autologin if local account doesn't exist (don't autocreate if user doesn't explicitly login) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/19161  +comment (10verdy_p)
[23:19:04] 	 New code comment: Reedy; Minor nitpick, we use tabs for indenting, not spaces. So in the javascript changes you're using a mi; 
[23:19:53] 	 03(mod) Set up Gerrit project owner group for MediaWiki core + WMF-deployed extensions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35148  +comment (10sumanah)
[23:27:05] 	 New code comment: Awjrichards; Brion is right. What were you doing that was causing failure? Were you using a $wgPhpCli with a spac; 
[23:33:05] 	 New code comment: Awjrichards; Aye - http://svn.wikimedia.org/doc/classOutputPage.html#ac5edd2167a9f85e4d2257af9662652d2; 
[23:35:04] 	 New code comment: Aaron Schulz; Why is this fixme? It's only slight more verbose.; 
[23:36:04] 	 New code comment: Aaron Schulz; Passing '"php" "path/to/script.php"' (all ascii chars, no spaces) to proc_open() results in failure.; 
[23:37:34] 	 New code comment: Awjrichards; To flag it as a potential issue and solicit either switching to use MW magic for this or a reasoned ; 
[23:44:34] 	 New code comment: Awjrichards; Yeesh. '"php" "path/to/script.php"' is a totally legitimate command to run in bash, but I have no id; 
[23:54:34] 	 New code comment: Aaron Schulz; I don't think wrapWikiMsg() works here, since we want the result of $status->getWikiText(). wrapWiki; 
[23:59:51] 	 hey, I've got a problem