[00:00:04] <Herr_Kriss>	 I want a template that will look like a <pre>
[00:00:18] <Herr_Kriss>	 exactly <pre>{{{1|}}}</pre>
[00:00:34] <saper>	 look like?
[00:00:51] <Herr_Kriss>	 I said it wrong
[00:01:23] <saper>	 ah you want to wrap the parameter inside pair of <pre> tag
[00:01:24] <Herr_Kriss>	 it have to be fixed-size, no linebreaking
[00:01:32] <Herr_Kriss>	 it would be good to have that border
[00:01:39] <Herr_Kriss>	 but it can't pare links
[00:01:41] <Herr_Kriss>	 parse*
[00:04:17] <Herr_Kriss>	 well, <pre> now is not so important, the most important thing is to have not parsed links given by parameter (so it have to parse parameters)
[00:04:25] <Herr_Kriss>	 unparsed*
[00:04:57] <Platonides>	 Herr_Kriss, does {{#tag:pre|{{{1|}}} }} work ?
[00:06:37] <Herr_Kriss>	 Platonides: great, it works! Thank you :)
[00:06:40] <saper>	 Herr_Kriss: https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Szablon:Pre?action=edit
[00:07:03] <Herr_Kriss>	 saper: BTW can I change class of it?
[00:07:05] <Herr_Kriss>	 ee
[00:07:09] <Herr_Kriss>	 thanks too*
[00:07:40] <Herr_Kriss>	 I don't want to change style of all <pre>s, but if there's no way, it's ok
[00:08:09] <Herr_Kriss>	 I see it now
[00:08:20] <Herr_Kriss>	 great, you really helped me, guys :)
[00:08:39] <codurr>	 03ktchan * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114043> 10/USERINFO/ktchan: Updated my userinfo.
[00:08:47] <saper>	   {{#tag:tagname|attribute_name=value|input}}
[00:10:02] <puffin444>	 hello
[00:10:15] <saper>	 hi
[00:11:07] <Dantman>	 ۝۞_۞
[00:12:15] <AaronSchulz>	 ;)
[00:12:38] <puffin444>	 I'm a student interested in one of the GSoC projects, and I saw one of the suggestions to get involved was to fix a bug.
[00:13:14] <puffin444>	 So I set up an environment, played around with the code, and I think I found a solution to a minor bug.
[00:14:26] <saper>	 can you post a patch to bugzilla?
[00:14:53] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Make git-review more easy to install on Windows - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35145  +comment (10Aaron Schulz)
[00:14:55] <Dantman>	 pft... Macs are hardly any better than other hardware I've come across in dealing with my usage habits
[00:15:28] <puffin444>	 Okay. So to submit a solution on bugzilla, it goes through a review process before being incorporated, correct?
[00:15:35] <Reedy>	 Yeah
[00:15:46] <Reedy>	 Running maintenance scripts on enwiki is sloooooooooow
[00:15:55] <Dantman>	 freezing up, going into buggy states, not showing the menu bar for a fullscreen window when I put myouse in the right spot
[00:16:18] <puffin444>	 Ok. Good. Just didn't want to mess anything up.
[00:17:56] <puffin444>	 I was specifically interested in a project proposed by the user multichill. Do you know how I could get in touch with this person?
[00:19:02] <Krenair>	 puffin444, https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/multichill
[00:19:14] <Reedy>	 He's usually around in IRC during sensible times
[00:19:33] <Krenair>	 -NickServ- Last seen  : Mar 17 00:14:11 2012 (5 minutes, 12 seconds ago)
[00:22:15] <puffin444>	 Thanks a lot. Is he around at all during the weekends? or would you expect him to be around more during the weekdays?
[00:22:36] <saper>	 puffin444: hard to tell
[00:22:47] <saper>	 puffin444: contact him via wiki
[00:22:57] <Reedy>	 Probably easiest
[00:23:16] <Reedy>	 I thought he idles online, seemingly not. He'll most likely be about during the week, but is around at weekends sometimes
[00:23:16] <p858snake|l>	 puffin444: You can always post on his talk page on wiki, eg: https://mediawiki.org/wiki/User_talk:Multichill
[00:24:03] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) includes/memcached-client.php constants have incorrect scope - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35274 normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (widdis)
[00:25:30] <puffin444>	 Thanks for the info. Other than submitting patches/talking with multichill, do you have any advice on writing a good proposal?
[00:30:52] <mediajay>	 hello, i am trying to install configure mediawiki 1.16.5.  got the following error: Could not open "../maintenance/postgres/tables.sql".  only related info i found online does not provide sufficient info to resolve.  please advise.
[00:30:59] <mediajay>	 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?format=multiple&id=757328
[00:32:29] <wikibugs>	 14(INVALID) includes/memcached-client.php constants have incorrect scope - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35274  +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[00:32:56] <Reedy>	 mediajay: 1.16.5 isn't a supported version
[00:33:34] <mediajay>	 i should have mentioned that installed using yum (fedora 15)
[00:33:38] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Account creation messages inconsistent - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35272   +i18n (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[00:33:50] <Reedy>	 And if its os packaged, it's even less supported
[00:33:52] <Reedy>	 !package
[00:33:53] <mw-bot>	 Many Linux distributions provide MediaWiki in a packaged format for that distribution. Distributions are usually  outdated, also they like to move around files, change the files and other unpredictable things. You'll get the best support here if you install MediaWiki directly from one of our tarballs, available at http://www.mediawiki.org/
[00:34:45] <mediajay>	 okay, so i should download the latest and install/configure manually.
[00:36:23] <Reedy>	 Yeah, it's generally the best way
[00:37:32] <mediajay>	 okay.  looks like 1.18.1 is the latest: http://download.wikimedia.org/mediawiki/1.18/mediawiki-1.18.1.tar.gz.  will give it a try.  thanks for your comments Reedy
[00:38:02] <Reedy>	 Postgres support should be better in newer versions to
[00:45:40] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Add ids to the bold tags of API docs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35275 enhancement; MediaWiki: API; (mybugs.mail)
[00:49:56] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Allow permanent links to specific tests on [[Special:ApiSandbox]] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35276 enhancement; MediaWiki: Special pages; (mybugs.mail)
[00:51:37] <codurr>	 03jeroendedauw * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114044> 10/trunk/extensions/EducationProgram/specials/ (3 files): playing with some stuff to make partial caching of special pages easier
[00:55:16] <mediajay>	 holy smokes that was so pleasant and easy.  hoorah for 1.18.1
[01:02:50] <dcht00>	 hi all, I have a bug to report
[01:03:04] <dcht00>	 could someone help me, never did it before :)
[01:04:01] <saper>	 dcht00: nice, did you tryto go to http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/ and search there if we have it already?
[01:04:37] <saper>	 Reedy: will 1.18.2 be released regularly or only critical fixes?
[01:04:39] <dcht00>	 saper just doing that
[01:05:47] <dcht00>	 http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Support_desk/Archives/Uploading/001#.28RESOLVED.29_Upload_directory_.28public.29_is_not_writable_by_the_webserver
[01:06:05] <dcht00>	 it's about this, I've already confirmed the solution here
[01:07:06] <saper>	 dcht00: so it's a configuration problem?
[01:07:53] <dcht00>	 saper I don't know if I'd call it that or what exactly you'd mean by that
[01:08:22] <dcht00>	 it's unexpected behaviour, and a non-descriptive error
[01:08:24] <saper>	 don't worry about me calling it that way
[01:08:53] <saper>	 dcht00: which mediawiki version are you trying? do you know?
[01:09:16] <dcht00>	 mediawiki-1.18.1 on centos 6
[01:09:24] <dcht00>	 fresh install
[01:09:38] <saper>	 thanks
[01:13:24] <dcht00>	 saper : it's with sqlite btw
[01:13:50] <saper>	 dcht00: how would you prefer it to be described?
[01:14:33] <dcht00>	 the guy in the link i posted has a point, though i don't really know linux user mgmt that well : the folder looks like it shouldn't be owned by "1226"
[01:14:43] <dcht00>	 well for starter I didn't know where to look for the upload folder
[01:15:03] <dcht00>	 calling it "images" didn't help
[01:15:18] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) restore missing file version DB records - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35048  +comment (10aschulz4587)
[01:16:08] <saper>	 ok
[01:16:12] <dcht00>	 and there should be a solution given
[01:16:25] <saper>	 like "chmod" or "chown"?
[01:16:28] <dcht00>	 "chmod 755 /images" and "chown apache:apache /images"
[01:16:30] <dcht00>	 yea
[01:16:53] <saper>	 ok can you file a bug at bugzilla.wikimedia.org? will be easier to make sure we don't forget
[01:17:02] <dcht00>	 but I really think it's a bug in the way the installation handles this
[01:17:17] <saper>	 what do you think should be done?
[01:17:30] <dcht00>	 while you're installing, the install guides you to manually setup the "data" folder
[01:17:31] <saper>	 apache user cannot change file owner to itself
[01:17:59] <dcht00>	 looks like the same (guiding to manually setup "images") should be done here, so, making this a part of the setup
[01:20:06] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) restore missing file version DB records - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35048  +comment (10aschulz4587)
[01:20:37] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) restore missing file version DB records - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35048  +comment (10aschulz4587)
[01:24:05] <codurr>	 03jeroendedauw * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114045> 10/trunk/extensions/EducationProgram/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Follow up to r114044; decided upon an approach for the caching stuff and got rid of the rest
[01:25:26] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) restore missing file version DB records - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35048  minor->major (10Aaron Schulz)
[01:28:23] <ajs>	 and GSoC mentors online ATM?
[01:36:31] <codurr>	 03jeroendedauw * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114046> 10/trunk/extensions/EducationProgram/specials/ (SpecialCachedPage.php SpecialStudentActivity.php): Follow up to r114045; cleanup + docs
[01:36:39] <Dantman>	 The thing about permissions is everyone does them differently
[01:37:19] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Installer should guide to setting up up UPLOAD ("/images") folder too (sqlite) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35277 minor; MediaWiki: Installation; (david.potocnik)
[01:38:22] <dcht00>	 saper dantman i've opened a bug
[01:39:30] <Dantman>	 I've been through the 777 pattern, seen the 755 shared hosting pattern (where apache runs as the user), been in a 775 where the www-data group was added to give permissions (in fact it was actually a derivitive where there was a fooname group and a www-fooname group that you used), and even used acls.
[01:40:05] <Dantman>	 ;) And then there's Windows.
[01:40:19] <dcht00>	 i mean ofcourse there's different ways of doing it, but i think that
[01:40:34] <dcht00>	 if it needs to be done, it would be 1 a good idea to hint/make the user do it at setup time
[01:40:44] <dcht00>	 2 have a more descriptive / helpful error msg
[01:40:47] <jeremyb>	 i could swear sticking <style> in the body of an enwikip page used to work just fine for me
[01:40:49] <dcht00>	 that's what i've put in the bug 
[01:41:10] <jeremyb>	 any ideas why it's being escaped (and therefore is visible) on the page?
[01:41:15] <jeremyb>	 (raw)
[01:41:57] <saper>	 dcht00: thanks!
[01:44:24] <dcht00>	 saper thank you
[01:45:29] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Installer should guide to setting up up UPLOAD ("/images") folder too (sqlite) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35277  +comment (10Marcin Cieślak)
[01:46:25] <saper>	 dcht00: I subscribed to this bug; I was recently improving installer translations and I found original texts rather lacking
[01:48:33] <dcht00>	 overall, my experience was pretty smooth
[01:48:54] <dcht00>	 I'm having problems with user account admin though, because I'm keeping a private wiki
[01:49:29] <dcht00>	 strange user creation, inability to remove users, etc ... 
[01:50:30] <saper>	 removing users is tricky
[01:50:44] <saper>	 I am using "ResetPassword" extension to lock them out permanently
[01:51:00] <Dantman>	 eh?
[01:51:10] <Dantman>	 Why don't you just block them?
[01:51:36] <saper>	 blocking does not let them edit and not log in
[01:53:39] <jeremyb>	 huh?
[01:53:52] <jeremyb>	 why would you want them to be able to edit but not to log in?
[01:55:22] <jeremyb>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgBlockDisablesLogin
[01:57:01] <jeremyb>	 Dantman: any ideas about <style> ?
[01:57:30] <Dantman>	 adding it from an extension, js, etc...?
[01:57:39] <Dantman>	 you*
[01:59:36] <jeremyb>	 Dantman: none of the above
[01:59:44] <jeremyb>	 Dantman: straight into the edit box on enwikip
[01:59:50] <jeremyb>	 i was sure that used to work
[01:59:57] <Dantman>	 ...that should have NEVEr worked
[02:00:07] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Pages loading without formatting too often - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29153  +comment (10bawolff+wn)
[02:00:08] <jeremyb>	 (but would only applied to that one page then)
[02:00:13] <Dantman>	 no
[02:00:45] <Dantman>	 If we had that in our current state, that would be an XSS hole.
[02:00:55] <jeremyb>	 yeah, i know
[02:01:18] <jeremyb>	 i figured there was some sanitizing maybe
[02:03:00] <jeremyb>	 Dantman: can we expect to see you in NYC or DC? https://wikimania2012.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_Takes_Manhattan
[02:03:08] <Dantman>	 no...
[02:04:20] <jeremyb>	 berlin hackathon?
[02:06:22] <Dantman>	 no...
[02:07:05] <jeremyb>	 wikimania 2019?
[02:07:34] <Dantman>	 probably not...
[02:08:10] <jeremyb>	 i give up
[02:23:08] <codurr>	 03bsitu * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114047> 10/trunk/phase3/includes/api/ApiFeedContributions.php: fix for bug33214 - catch all exceptions in api execute and provides necessary parameters required by the custom printer
[02:24:10] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) action=feedcontributions explodes on showsizediff in miser mode - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33214  (10bsitu)
[02:24:27] <wikibugs>	 14(INVALID) Weird GET requests in user script - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35273  +comment (10Dan Collins)
[02:29:02] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Account creation messages inconsistent - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35272  +comment (10Dan Collins)
[02:42:04] <codurr>	 New code comment: Bawolff; To be honest, it kind of seems odd to return an RSS feed in case of an error, since errors can't rea; <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114047#c32259>
[02:46:56] <bawolff>	 lol, that's different
[02:47:08] <bawolff>	 HTTP/1.1 200 geoiplookup
[03:04:33] <G_SabinoMullane>	 Why does the installer still claim Postgres is "not recommended for use in a production environment" but everything else does not (e.g. DB2)? #grumblegrumble
[03:06:15] <p858snake|l>	 The installer doesn't even mention db2 does it?
[03:09:57] <G_SabinoMullane>	 Yes, it does
[03:10:08] <G_SabinoMullane>	 1.19.0beta1 anyway
[03:10:29] <G_SabinoMullane>	 Oracle, SQLite as well.
[03:10:32] <p858snake|l>	 Hmm I thought we took out db2 support ages ago
[03:13:19] <bawolff>	 I thought oracle got removed from isntaller as well
[03:13:56] <G_SabinoMullane>	 Dunno. This is the beta tarball I downloaded from mediawiki.org last night.
[03:14:18] * bawolff  would call that a bug :)

[03:14:23] <G_SabinoMullane>	 If I can figure out how to reset the installer, I'll let you know the choices.
[03:15:08] <G_SabinoMullane>	 ls -lrt
[03:15:16] <G_SabinoMullane>	 #EWRONGWINDOW
[03:16:05] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Installer should guide to setting up up UPLOAD ("/images") folder too - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35277  minor->15enhancement; summary (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[03:18:37] <G_SabinoMullane>	 I don't really care if they are all in there, but I don't think Postgres should be singled out as "not production ready". Or at least let's add some stronger warnings for all other non-MySQL ones :)
[03:20:08] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Add ids to the bold tags of API docs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35275  +comment (10sam)
[03:26:58] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Add ids to the bold tags of API docs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35275  +comment (10sam)
[03:27:45] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Allow permanent links to specific tests on [[Special:ApiSandbox]] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35276  (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[03:32:29] <p858snake|l>	 G_SabinoMullane: When chad redid the installer, it was probably when Postgres was back in the really "it's broken, don't even try this option" brokenness stage and no one has since fixed the message
[03:32:34] <p858snake|l>	 You can file a bug if you want
[03:35:29] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Weird GET requests in user script - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35273  +comment (10Bawolff)
[05:15:49] <codurr>	 New code comment: Aaron Schulz; I was messing around with this some more. shell_exec seems to work fine without or without the quote; <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/113688#c32260>
[05:18:49] <codurr>	 New code comment: Aaron Schulz; OK, wtf...If I set the "bypass cmd.exe" flag it works again. See: \ <source lang="php"> \ $process = pro; <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/113688#c32261>
[05:20:25] <suyogpatil>	 hi
[05:21:27] <suyogpatil>	 ny1 here?
[05:22:34] <suyogpatil>	 can som1 help on gsoc 2012?
[05:23:57] <Aaron|home>	 suyogpatil: you may have to wait till sumanah is around
[05:24:48] <suyogpatil>	 ok aaron
[05:47:31] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Provide an API to rotate an image - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33186  +comment (10Bagariavivek)
[05:54:30] <codurr>	 03nikola * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114048> 10/branches/nikola/phase3/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Sync with trunk
[05:54:41] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Narayam core resource should load before other Wiki level editable JavaScripts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35115  +comment (10Siddhartha Ghai)
[05:55:00] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Internal api error reported ( UploadStashFileNotFoundException ) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34785  +comment (10ineuw)
[05:57:19] <codurr>	 New code comment: Aaron Schulz; The changes were added here just to buy some time before making the "breaking change". We shouldn't ; <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/112366#c32262>
[05:58:08] <codurr>	 03nikola * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114049> 10/branches/nikola/phase3/ (2 files in 2 dirs):
[05:58:08] <codurr>	 - Fix bug 35076
[05:58:08] <codurr>	 - More tests, test comments
[06:01:04] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) when guessVariant is true (implemented for Serbian), -{}- is not parsed but it is sometimes needed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35076  +comment (10smolensk)
[06:14:21] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Temporally revert addition of the proposal name space on steward wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35269  +comment (10Ruslik00)
[06:14:59] * yuvipanda  pokes Reedy 

[06:15:14] <yuvipanda>	 hmm, possibly too early in London
[06:39:11] <Sid-G>	 Can anyone tell me where to find the git repo directories to browse like svn could be browsed?
[07:03:05] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) FlaggedRevs for RU Wiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33753  +comment (10Dereckson)
[07:03:41] <Sid-G>	 yuvipanda:maybe u can?
[07:11:15] <tale>	 Sid-G: According to docs, git is just a mirror of the Subversion repo, so browsing the subversion should show the same files. http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Subversion
[07:11:38] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Add block permissions in rollback on Lusophone Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35261  +comment (10Dereckson)
[07:14:01] <Sid-G>	 tale:So mw hasn't actually moved anything?
[07:15:05] <tale>	 Sid-G: That page was last modified on 10 March 2012, so it seems up to date. 
[07:15:52] <Sid-G>	 tale:hmm, ok. Although I dont understand how the svn to git move changes stuff then
[07:16:17] <tale>	 Sid-G: In what way does it change?
[07:17:05] <Sid-G>	 tale:Thats what I'm asking. Why the svn-->git change if it doesn't do anything???
[07:18:09] <tale>	 Sid-G: What change is that? Is there a svn to git change?
[07:18:27] <Sid-G>	 tale http://gerrit.wikimedia.org
[07:19:37] <svip>	 Sid-G: git will be the primary storage eventually.
[07:19:58] <Sid-G>	 svip:And how will it be browsed then?
[07:20:08] <svip>	 Dunno.
[07:20:09] <Sid-G>	 svip:Gerrit seems weird
[07:20:12] <svip>	 github?
[07:20:22] <Sid-G>	 github :)
[07:20:30] <Sid-G>	 i doubt that though
[07:20:44] <tale>	 Sid-G: Google finds this: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git
[07:21:03] <Sid-G>	 hmm
[07:21:09] <Sid-G>	 I was still looking for that
[07:21:12] <tale>	 Sid-G: That gerrit page you mentioned does not talk much about svn to git change.
[07:21:41] <Sid-G>	 tale:it shows the commits and is the only way to browse git for mw afaik
[07:22:10] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Allow bureaucrats to remove sysop rights on fr.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35258  +comment (10Darkoneko)
[07:22:21] <Sid-G>	 tale: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Conversion
[07:23:11] <tale>	 Sid-G: No use talking to me about this, I only know what Google finds to me.
[07:50:22] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Allow bureaucrats to remove sysop rights on fr.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35258  +comment (10Snowolf)
[08:00:53] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Enable Botadmin usergroup at ml.wiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35278 enhancement; Wikimedia: Site requests; (vssun9)
[08:03:30] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Enable Botadmin usergroup at ml.wiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35278  +comment (10Snowolf)
[08:07:20] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Enable Botadmin usergroup at ml.wiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35278   +shell (10p858snake)
[08:08:23] <wikibugs>	 04(REOPENED) Allow bureaucrats to remove sysop rights on fr.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35258  +comment (10Snowolf)
[08:12:21] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Enable Botadmin usergroup at ml.wiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35278  +comment (10vssun9)
[08:13:52] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Enable Botadmin usergroup at ml.wiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35278  +comment (10snowolf)
[08:23:05] <codurr>	 03wikinaut * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114050> 10/trunk/phase3/includes/installer/DatabaseUpdater.php: follow up r113862 . changed public function name extensionTableExists to tableExists
[08:23:34] <codurr>	 New code comment: Wikinaut; see r114050; <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/113862#c32263>
[08:30:12] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) MathJax: Several commands that work in texvc are not recognized - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35186  +comment (10listenleser)
[08:36:35] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Add block permissions in rollback on Lusophone Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35261  +comment (10snowolf)
[08:38:09] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Add block permissions in rollback on Lusophone Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35261  +comment (10snowolf)
[08:40:33] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Unresponsive script when uploading many files at once - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35279 normal; MediaWiki extensions: UploadWizard; (listenleser)
[08:41:40] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Hashar; "(no comment)" [test/mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/3229
[08:41:42] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Hashar; [test/mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/3229
[08:42:38] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Hashar; "(no comment)" [test/mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/2988
[08:42:40] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Hashar; [test/mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/2988
[08:42:53] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Global option to add a "my uploads" link to Special:MyUploads at the top right next to "my contributions" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30915  +comment (10srik.lak)
[08:42:59] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Hashar; "(no comment)" [test/mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/3150
[08:43:02] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Hashar; [test/mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/3150
[08:43:28] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Global option to add a "my uploads" link to Special:MyUploads at the top right next to "my contributions" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30915   +need-review +patch (10Srikanth Logic)
[08:44:31] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Allow entering description, date and categories for all uploaded files at once - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35280 enhancement; MediaWiki extensions: UploadWizard; (listenleser)
[08:45:11] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Hashar; "Please remember this is only a testing repository and your change will be lost  when we switch to th..." [test/mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/3256
[08:49:12] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Hashar; "When you did a mistake, you can just amend the change (in this case 3256 ). To do so:" [test/mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/3257
[08:51:37] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Hashar; "As an exercice, amend this change with the content of 3257 :-]" [test/mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/3256
[08:52:53] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Hashar; "Please note test/mediawiki/core will be deleted when we switch to git. Hence, this change will be lo..." [test/mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/3151
[08:54:22] <gerrit-wm>	 Change abandoned: Hashar; "reverted by 3152 :-]" [test/mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/3151
[08:55:00] <gerrit-wm>	 Change abandoned: Hashar; "Instead of submitting a new change to revert 3151, you could use the [Abandon Change] button under t..." [test/mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/3152
[08:58:31] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Hashar; "When you did a mistake, you can just amend the change (in this case 3181). To do so:" [test/mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/3185
[08:59:20] <codurr>	 03wikinaut * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114051> 10/trunk/extensions/AJAXPoll/ (AJAXPoll.php AJAXPoll_body.php): making corresponding change as a follow up r114050
[08:59:23] <gerrit-wm>	 Change abandoned: Hashar; "See comment explaining that 3181 should be amended." [test/mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/3185
[09:00:00] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Hashar; "There is a wrong file there :-)" [test/mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/3181
[09:00:34] <codurr>	 New code comment: Wikinaut; setting this cr to new as the follow up resolves this.; <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/113862#c32264>
[09:10:04] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) remove local stewards user group - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32593  +comment (10Snowolf)
[09:15:09] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Allow bureaucrats to remove sysop rights on fr.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35258  (10Darkoneko)
[09:15:27] <wikibugs>	 03(WONTFIX) remove local stewards user group - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32593  +comment (10Snowolf)
[09:17:40] <potter>	 MaxSem: hey.. i was working on the rotate image API.I have an UploadStashFile object and i want to convert it into LocalFile object
[09:18:17] <potter>	 MaxSem: and then i want to use the upload function of the LocalFile object
[09:18:44] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Add ids to the bold tags of API docs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35275  (10duplicatebug)
[09:19:04] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) remove local stewards user group - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32593  +comment (10Hydra)
[09:19:33] * potter  pokes MaxSem 

[09:21:39] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Give bureaucrats the ability to remove sysop rights at ro.wp - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33879  +comment (10snowolf)
[09:21:57] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Add block permissions in rollback on Lusophone Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35261  +comment (10dereckson)
[09:23:04] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Filter list=usercontribs by ucshow=new - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35268  (10duplicatebug)
[09:29:59] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Set up Gerrit project owner group for MediaWiki core + WMF-deployed extensions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35148  +comment (10hashar)
[09:34:47] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Italian API: action=parse props=iwlinks, it no longer retrieves iw with prefix="commons" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35256  (10duplicatebug)
[09:53:29] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) remove local stewards user group - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32593  +comment (10billinghurst)
[09:59:56] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Allow bureaucrats to remove sysop rights on fr.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35258  +comment (10Félix M.)
[10:01:20] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) [Regression] File deletions leave stuff behind - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35047  (10Dereckson)
[10:04:17] <chughakshay16>	 akshayagarwal, hey one quick question 
[10:05:09] <akshayagarwal>	 chughakshay16: shoot
[10:05:22] <chughakshay16>	 akshayagarwal,  the wikitext that goes into a template is parsed just as any other wikitext.. 
[10:05:52] <chughakshay16>	 akshayagarwal, we dont need to write any php code to make the parser understand our wikitext..right ?
[10:06:43] <akshayagarwal>	 chughakshay16: I am not the right person to answer that, but I think yes
[10:07:37] <chughakshay16>	 akshayagarwal,  okay
[10:15:19] <chughakshay16>	 akshayagarwal,  one more thing .. can a custom tag do everything that a parser function can do ?
[10:16:25] <akshayagarwal>	 chughakshay16: to be honest, I myself need a refresher on the MW framework, I currently am conversent only with the API & Special Pages stuff, sorry
[10:17:05] <chughakshay16>	 akshayagarwal, okay,, 
[10:17:19] <chughakshay16>	 aharoni,  Hi ,a quick question !
[10:17:32] <aharoni>	 hi
[10:17:38] <aharoni>	 go for it
[10:18:31] <chughakshay16>	 aharoni,  if i would want to modify the HTML content of a page.. which one should i use a parser function or a custom tag?
[10:18:52] <chughakshay16>	 aharoni,  i mean if i am building an extension
[10:19:17] <aharoni>	 i never worked with parser functions directly, but adding a tag is very easy.
[10:19:45] <aharoni>	 (i mean, i actually did something like this, and it was very easy.)if you just want to get some info from 
[10:20:10] <aharoni>	 if you just want to get some info from the user, process it, and output it different, a tag is probably enough.
[10:20:48] <chughakshay16>	 aharoni,  no with my extension i want to give the user an option of modifying the look of a page... 
[10:20:57] <chughakshay16>	 aharoni,  so which one should i prefer  ?
[10:21:59] <aharoni>	 maybe for this you'll need a magic word.
[10:22:14] <aharoni>	 what kind of a modification do you want to do?
[10:22:58] <chughakshay16>	 aharoni, i mean more like a template
[10:23:09] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Pages loading without formatting too often - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29153  +comment (10liangent)
[10:24:01] <chughakshay16>	 aharoni,  content+style ( just like we have in a template) ,,, but not a template
[10:24:39] <chughakshay16>	 aharoni, so with a parser function could we achieve the same thing that a template produces ?
[10:26:03] <aharoni>	 well, that sounds like a magic word, such as {{displaytitle:}}, but you'll have to give more details about what exactly do you want to change.
[10:26:23] <aharoni>	 did you see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Magic_words ?
[10:27:00] <chughakshay16>	 aharoni, jsut consider for example that i give you an empty page.. and you would want to decorate(put content) it.. 
[10:27:23] <chughakshay16>	 aharoni, how would you do it as a user  ?
[10:28:01] <chughakshay16>	 aharoni, would u use a parser function or a custom tag ?
[10:28:05] <codurr>	 03hashar * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114052> 10/branches/hashar/node-qunit/tests/qunit/ (Makefile launch.js suites/resources/mediawiki/mediawiki.js): save up some old hacks. Need to be redone properly though
[10:29:41] <aharoni>	 I can put content on an empty page simply by editing it. Why do you think that you need any special functions or tags?
[10:30:13] <chughakshay16>	 aharoni, but with manual editing u can only put static content .right ?
[10:30:43] <chughakshay16>	 aharoni, i mean i would want to put content which queries a database or something and then outputs somethine..
[10:32:18] <chughakshay16>	 aharoni,  okay look at this page https://wikimania2012.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page
[10:32:44] <chughakshay16>	 aharoni, there is a box on this page which displays the number of days left .
[10:33:15] <chughakshay16>	 aharoni,  on that page a template is created for that box
[10:33:46] <chughakshay16>	 aharoni, but i dont want to create a template for it.. can i make it using a parser funciton or a custom tag ?
[10:34:19] <aharoni>	 i think that doing that using a tag would be simpler...
[10:34:54] <chughakshay16>	 aharoni, so it can be done 
[10:35:34] <aharoni>	 but that's just because i actually know how to add a tag to an extension and i know that it's very easy. maybe adding a parser function is just as easy; i just never tried it myself.
[10:36:03] <chughakshay16>	 aharoni, okay ty :|
[10:36:23] <aharoni>	 personally, i also find the idea of XML-like tags simpler to understand. too much curly brackets make me dizzy {{|:
[10:36:29] <aharoni>	 }}}} {{{}}}
[10:36:39] <aharoni>	 :)
[10:46:38] <yuvipanda>	 anyone knows why I might be getting a 'file type ban' when trying to upload an ogg file to commons from the API?
[10:48:37] <wikibugs>	 14(DUP) Create an __NOINDEX__ equivalent to prevent indexing by internal search engine - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24169  +comment (10Rd232)
[10:48:37] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Magic word to remove page from (quick)search results - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22251  +comment (10Rd232)
[10:51:03] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Provide an API to rotate an image - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33186  +comment (10vivekee047)
[10:52:23] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Provide an API to rotate an image - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33186  +comment (10vivekee047)
[10:57:30] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Account creation messages inconsistent - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35272  +comment (10krenair)
[11:05:06] <codurr>	 03questpc * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114053> 10/USERINFO/questpc: Provide vaild email address
[11:07:43] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Pages loading without formatting too often - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29153  (10mybugs.mail)
[11:09:49] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) remove local stewards user group from wmf wikis (except meta) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32593  (10duplicatebug)
[11:12:55] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Weird GET requests in user script - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35273  (10mybugs.mail)
[11:33:12] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) remove local stewards user group from wmf wikis (except meta) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32593  +comment (10Trijnstel)
[11:36:43] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) remove local stewards user group from wmf wikis (except meta) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32593  (10duplicatebug)
[11:39:02] <nischayn22>	  can we embed wikipedia aritcles in other sites or blogs?
[11:40:43] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) remove local stewards user group from wmf wikis (except meta) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32593  (10duplicatebug)
[11:50:15] <IWorld>	 Hello.
[11:53:16] <IWorld>	 What is the regex for wiki syntax?
[11:53:51] <IWorld>	 !help
[11:53:51] <mw-bot>	 http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:`e1
[11:53:55] <IWorld>	 mh
[11:54:53] <Krenair>	 IWorld, regex for wiki syntax..?>
[11:54:56] <IWorld>	 (wiki links in wiki syntax)
[11:54:56] <Krenair>	 ?
[11:55:10] <IWorld>	 I want to use the text in [[Test]].
[11:56:35] <Krenair>	 I don't know, sorry
[11:56:53] <Krenair>	 I might be able to find out though...
[12:04:21] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) remove local stewards user group from wmf wikis (except meta) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32593  +comment (10trijnstel)
[12:19:02] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) remove local stewards user group from wmf wikis (except meta) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32593  (10duplicatebug)
[12:25:30] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Do not mark edits as minor by default on new section or new page creation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27860  +comment (10fabrice.laussy)
[12:35:04] <Krenair>	 Anyone know the format the 'wikis' list has to be in for a CentralAuth WikiSet?
[12:35:54] <Krenair>	 I've tried the database names and site names but no luck
[13:31:23] <Tim_Weyer>	 Hey there. I'm trying to use Wikipedia articles in a friend's wiki. I use a modified version of HelpCommons. By an unkown reason it cannot get the API query of WP: http://de.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?format=php&action=query&titles=Hallo    I've tried it with other non-wmf wiki and it worked. I made this query on a server (statically IP)
[13:32:18] <Tim_Weyer>	 Here it is: http://fipsi.ameriv.de/wiki/Hallo
[13:33:03] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Provide an API to rotate an image - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33186  (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[13:36:00] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) In all pages wiki title is showing HTML tags in it. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35281 critical; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (prashantwagh23)
[13:37:35] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) In all pages wiki title is showing HTML tags in it. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35281  +comment (10prashantwagh23)
[13:53:45] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Provide an API to rotate an image - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33186  +comment (10sam)
[13:56:43] <Reedy>	 ^ long comment is long
[13:58:24] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Provide an API to rotate an image - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33186  +comment (10Bryan.TongMinh)
[14:02:28] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Provide an API to rotate an image - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33186  +comment (10sam)
[14:13:20] <liangent>	 Tim_Weyer: can you ssh to the server and send a request manually and see what's wrong?
[14:14:50] <Tim_Weyer>	 liangent: I've SSH access. I've tried it on another server (statically IP, too) and it doesn't work. Also, what for a request should I perform?
[14:16:13] <liangent>	 Tim_Weyer: on my second look at that site the error msg disappears
[14:16:46] <Tim_Weyer>	 Oh, sorry. I've changed it to another wiki to try if it's work
[14:17:09] <Tim_Weyer>	 changed it back
[14:17:11] <Tim_Weyer>	 now
[14:18:06] <Tim_Weyer>	 liangent: I don't know why it can't access the API of Wikipedia: HTTP/1.0 403 Forbidden
[14:18:30] <Tim_Weyer>	 If I use it for other wikis, it works without any problem
[14:19:01] <Reedy>	 think you get a 403 for no usergent
[14:19:05] <Reedy>	 useragent
[14:19:39] <Tim_Weyer>	 Yes, I have had this idea, too
[14:19:57] <Tim_Weyer>	 Reedy: But how to resolve? Is there a way?
[14:21:12] <liangent>	 Reedy, Tim_Weyer: it's a bug in HelpCommons
[14:21:17] <liangent>	 I'm going to fix it
[14:22:38] <Tim_Weyer>	 liangent: The code I'm using is the same as in HelpCommons, just a bit modified for another namespace. And there is the same bug if I use HelpCommons for help pages from Wikipedia. Looking forward to your solution :-)
[14:25:33] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Add block permissions in rollback on Lusophone Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35261  +comment (10Pedroleodato)
[14:26:26] <codurr>	 03liangent * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114054> 10/trunk/extensions/HelpCommons/HelpCommons.php: Use Http::get instead of file_get_contents to send proper User-Agent. Otherwise the request will be denied by WMF servers.
[14:26:33] <liangent>	 Tim_Weyer: svn up
[14:28:49] <svip>	 Are template names like {{'}} discouraged?
[14:29:19] <liangent>	 enwiki has it...
[14:32:37] <Joan>	 I have to pee.
[14:32:56] <Joan>	 And https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35281 is a dupe.
[14:33:08] <Joan>	 Why is Bugzilla so awful to search?
[14:33:10] <svip>	 Joan: Is that a bug about you having to pee?
[14:34:35] <vvv>	 Joan: to make you miserable
[14:34:47] <Joan>	 vvv: Mission accomplished.
[14:36:18] <wikibugs>	 04(REOPENED) All titles broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35235  +comment (10MZMcBride)
[14:36:28] <Joan>	 How about we get rid of the Bugmeister position?
[14:37:17] <wikibugs>	 14(DUP) In all pages wiki title is showing HTML tags in it. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35281  +comment (10MZMcBride)
[14:37:18] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) All titles broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35235  +comment (10MZMcBride)
[14:37:30] <vvv>	 Joan: and who will meister the bugs?
[14:37:46] <Joan>	 vvv: You mean close them prematurely to ensure that the stats go up, but that nothing gets fixed?
[14:37:50] <Joan>	 I think we can live without that feature.
[14:38:09] <Joan>	 Can attachments be moved between bugs?
[14:39:14] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) MediaWiki h1 headers exposing span tags for some users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35235  summary; +comment (10MZMcBride)
[14:39:19] <liangent>	 Tim_Weyer: does the new version work?
[14:42:26] <ashley>	 Tim_Weyer: hi! what's going to happen to http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:AdminBoard_(Wikiunity) and http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SetupWiki now that Wikiunity has apparently closed down? it'd be a shame if their code were lost...same for the other custom Wikiunity extensions
[14:43:22] <saper>	 Tim_Weyer: is helpcommons an extension?
[14:45:44] <saper>	 ouch it uses file_get_contents()
[14:46:43] <saper>	 Tim_Weyer: looks like you can set user agent usingphp.ini: http://techbongo.hubpages.com/hub/Own-Custom-User-Agent-Using-PHP
[14:59:36] <liangent>	 saper: I updated code in svn to use http functions shipped with mediawiki
[15:03:05] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) MediaWiki h1 headers exposing span tags for some users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35235  +comment (10Jarry1250)
[15:03:14] <Jarry1250>	 Bleh, *mad
[15:06:47] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) MediaWiki h1 headers exposing span tags for some users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35235  +comment (10b)
[15:11:14] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) MediaWiki h1 headers exposing span tags for some users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35235  +comment (10jarry1250)
[15:12:08] <Joan>	 Jarry1250: Nice find. :-)
[15:12:18] <Joan>	 Jarry1250: That bug can be probably be reclosed then.
[15:12:32] <Joan>	 You can be the next Bugshyster.
[15:12:33] <Jarry1250>	 I'd have thought so. SU say they are "working on a fix".
[15:12:47] <Jarry1250>	 I'd have thought so regards the bug being resolved, I mean :P
[15:12:48] <codurr>	 03saper * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114055> 10/trunk/extensions/HelpCommons/HelpCommons.php: Followup-To: r114054: More to come
[15:12:54] <saper>	 liangent: ^^ ?
[15:13:57] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Fix and publish our Debian package for TestSwarm - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35282 enhancement; Wikimedia: Testing Infrastructure; (krinklemail)
[15:14:28] <liangent>	 saper: oops so many
[15:16:57] <saper>	 liangent: yep
[15:17:08] <saper>	 I don't think it's a good piece of code
[15:17:09] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) remove local stewards user group from wmf wikis (except meta) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32593  +comment (10Marco Aurelio)
[15:25:59] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) remove local stewards user group from wmf wikis (except meta) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32593  +comment (10Krenair)
[15:27:10] <Elfix>	 The current mediawiki IP-autoblock only activates when a blocked account attempts to edit a page.
[15:27:18] <Elfix>	 has it always worked like this?
[15:31:47] <Raylton>	 I have access to svn ... how I can switch to git?
[15:35:22] <Krenair>	 Raylton, tried logging into https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/ ?
[15:37:08] <Raylton>	 Krenair, with svn username?
[15:38:10] <Krenair>	 Raylton, with username 'Raylton P. Sousa' and the same password as on SVN I think
[15:40:46] <Raylton>	 Krenair, it's display: "Incorrect username or password."
[15:41:24] <Krenair>	 http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2012-March/thread.html scroll down to "Auto-created gerrit accounts for users that had enough	info in USERINFO"
[15:42:54] <Krenair>	 I just log in with my full name and password. But I had my account created through labsconsole I believe, so it may be different for you
[15:46:39] <Tim_Weyer>	 ashley: I will publish every code. But I don't know where exactly. Maybe on Google or I ask for an extra directory on WMF's GIT
[15:47:03] <Krenair>	 Raylton, still unable to log in?
[15:47:41] <Raylton>	 Krenair, no =(
[15:48:09] <Krenair>	 Raylton, "no =("? Do you want to be able to log in or not? o.O
[15:49:38] <Tim_Weyer>	 liangent: The article is shown now but the tab is red. I've applied an extra code change to Title.php. But maybe I just forgot anything. Sorry for the delayed reply
[15:50:01] <Raylton>	 Krenair, Oh sorry... I want!
[15:50:40] <Tim_Weyer>	 saper: Setting a user agent would not a real solution because this extension should be / is usable for every wiki. But good to know :-)
[15:51:15] <liangent>	 Tim_Weyer: I bet it's another bug in the extension
[15:51:22] <Krenair>	 Raylton, so if you've tried logging in with your name and username but it still fails, maybe you should ask Ryan_Lane or someone else involved in account creation
[15:52:07] <liangent>	 it seems you coded it up?
[15:52:16] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Global lock seems to affect a different user from its target - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35011  summary (10Vituzzu@it.wiki)
[15:53:20] <Raylton>	 Krenair, ok ... I'll try a little here. to make sure I was not who did something wrong
[15:53:25] <Tim_Weyer>	 liangent: Yes, it seems so: http://fipsi.ameriv.de/wiki/Hall The talk page tab is colored blue
[15:53:51] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) remove local stewards user group from wmf wikis (except meta) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32593  +comment (10Vituzzu@it.wiki)
[15:54:27] <Raylton>	 Krenair, And then talk to Ryan_Lane.
[16:00:46] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) remove local stewards user group from wmf wikis (except meta) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32593  +comment (10krenair)
[16:01:21] <saper>	 Tim_Weyer: user agent is ... nice :)
[16:03:31] <ashley>	 Tim_Weyer: cool :-) I'm using Google Code for a different (yet MediaWiki-related) project...might eventually need to move all "my" extensions there due to git (ugh)
[16:05:08] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Fix and publish our Debian package for TestSwarm - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35282  +comment (10sam)
[16:06:27] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) remove local stewards user group from wmf wikis (except meta) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32593  +comment (10vituzzu.wiki)
[16:06:38] <Raylton>	 Krenair, if my account had been created automatically I would be herehttps://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Ask/-5B-5BResource-20Type::project-5D-5D/-3F/-3FMember/-3FDescription/mainlabel%3D-2D, right?
[16:07:13] <Krenair>	 Raylton, no because I'm not listed there but I have a gerrit account
[16:07:20] <Krenair>	 and a labsconsole account
[16:08:38] <Tim_Weyer>	 ashley: I don't know how to work with GIT but I will see what expects me :D Google code is okay, too
[16:08:58] <Raylton>	 Krenair, by chance there is somewhere where you can see if the account was automatically created or not?
[16:09:41] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) remove local stewards user group from wmf wikis (except meta) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32593  +comment (10krenair)
[16:10:50] <Krenair>	 Raylton, no idea.
[16:11:08] <Krenair>	 Tim-away, Git/git, not GIT
[16:12:07] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) remove local stewards user group from wmf wikis (except meta) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32593  +comment (10vituzzu.wiki)
[16:13:12] <Reedy>	 Wrong tim
[16:14:19] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) remove local stewards user group from wmf wikis (except meta) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32593  +comment (10krenair)
[16:14:20] <Krenair>	 Sorry Tim-away. That was meant for Tim_Weyer 
[16:15:06] <Tim_Weyer>	 Krenair: Oh...
[16:15:10] <Tim_Weyer>	 Git...
[16:15:18] <Krenair>	 :D
[16:16:18] <Emw>	 is it possible to have a media handler extension that set itself as the appropriate media handler for the given file type by detecting file extension rather than MIME type?  i'm trying to develop a new media handler extension for a file type that always has the same file type (.pdb) by has a non-standard MIME type (chemical/x-pdb; request for .pdb's often set the 'Content-Type' http header...
[16:16:18] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) remove local stewards user group from wmf wikis (except meta) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32593  +comment (10billinghurst)
[16:16:20] <Emw>	 ...to 'plain/text')
[16:17:39] <Raylton>	 Reedy or Ryan_Lane : I have commit access(svn) but apparently was not automatically converted to git. What I do?
[16:17:57] <Emw>	 i've looked around in http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:Media_handling_extensions for an example of a media handler that detects file extension rather than MIME type, but haven't seen any yet
[16:18:06] <Krenair>	 Anyone know what 'Bovine faeces' means?
[16:18:11] <Reedy>	 Cow poo
[16:18:39] <Reedy>	 Raylton: may be best pinging sumana about it... I wonder if it didn't like the full stop in your commit name/USERINFO file
[16:18:58] <Krenair>	 Reedy, right. Thanks.
[16:19:03] <Reedy>	 heh
[16:19:14] <Krenair>	 I dislike this billingshurst guy.
[16:19:47] <Krenair>	 billinghurst*
[16:21:22] <Raylton>	 Reedy,  But it is the name of my global account
[16:21:28] <Krenair>	 Reedy, also, does the Bugzilla staff handle approving changes such as this one?
[16:21:31] <Krenair>	 !b 26159
[16:21:31] <mw-bot>	 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26159
[16:21:44] <Reedy>	 Raylton: indeed. It might just need doing manually
[16:21:50] <Reedy>	 I'm not that involved in this part of the migation
[16:22:09] <Reedy>	 Krenair: shell users do it
[16:22:18] <Reedy>	 Which recently usually means me
[16:22:40] <Krenair>	 Reedy, okay. I'm just arguing with some stewards who think that everyone making permissions requests should tell them BEFORE asking on bugzilla
[16:23:15] <Reedy>	 Hopefully in the near future it'll be stewards dealing with such requests
[16:23:40] <Raylton>	 Reedy, only sumanah can do it?
[16:23:51] <Krenair>	 The shell user approving it should be checking WMF policy and community consensus, or at least asking someone who can e.g. a steward
[16:24:16] <Reedy>	 Maybe so, but we're discussing some changes there were made a couple of years ago
[16:24:23] <Reedy>	 Raylton: No, but she's been dealing with it
[16:24:36] <Reedy>	 Shell users shouldn't have to be going around chasing the bureaucracy
[16:25:08] <liangent>	 Reedy: where's the place to request a labs access?
[16:25:24] <liangent>	 no one answers me in #wikimedia-labs
[16:25:28] <Reedy>	 Usually in #wikimedia-labs
[16:25:29] <liangent>	 for several hours
[16:25:30] <Krenair>	 Reedy, so you think that people should be checking with stewards before asking on bugzilla about such changes?
[16:25:47] <Reedy>	 liangent: it's a weekend for a start
[16:26:28] <Krenair>	 I was under the impression that anyone could make requests there without consulting anyone before doing so.
[16:26:34] <Reedy>	 Pretty much
[16:26:37] <codurr>	 03jeroendedauw * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114056> 10/trunk/extensions/EducationProgram/specials/SpecialEnroll.php: address http://education.wmflabs.org/wiki/Thread:MW_1.18_talk:Community_portal/planned_course_/_enrolling
[16:26:43] <Reedy>	 Depending on teh change, consensus is required
[16:27:00] <Reedy>	 Krenair: to be honest, I don't really care what happens, as long as I don't have to spend more time not getting other stuff done. If that's what the community decide, so be it, but if that's the case, all new shell bugs are only logged once they've been vetted by enwiki consensus or some such
[16:27:03] <Krenair>	 Reedy, obviously consensus is required before it's carried out, but before someone is allowed to post to bugzilla?
[16:27:13] <Raylton>	 Reedy, ok ... you know when she (sumanah) will be here?
[16:27:14] <Reedy>	 No, there's no rule for that
[16:27:16] <Reedy>	 And little way to stop them
[16:28:11] <Reedy>	 Raylton: monday I guess. You could email her
[16:29:06] <nischayn22>	 can we embed wikipedia articles in websites and blogs?
[16:29:43] <nischayn22>	 akshayagarwal: ^ any idea?
[16:29:52] <Reedy>	 nischayn22: yes, see https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Terms_of_use
[16:30:38] <Krenair>	 Reedy, is there a mailing list for all bugs on bugzilla?
[16:30:50] <Reedy>	 yeah
[16:31:13] <Reedy>	 https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[16:31:15] <Krenair>	 Wikibugs-l?
[16:31:16] <Krenair>	 ok
[16:31:34] <nischayn22>	 Reedy: I meant to embed as a iframe , somewhat like you can embed the youtube player
[16:31:54] <Reedy>	 you can pretty much do what you want
[16:33:24] <Krenair>	 Reedy, unrelated to Wikimedia/the stewards/bugzilla - I was having trouble creating a CentralAuth WikiSet - the wikis you give it are supposed to be the database names or something else?
[16:33:28] <nischayn22>	 Reedy: is there some API or Extension to do that ? It would be good to embed articles instead of giving links
[16:34:13] <Reedy>	 Krenair: no idea. I can have a look
[16:34:29] <Reedy>	 nischayn22: not really.. You can get the API to give you parsed sections
[16:34:59] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) remove local stewards user group from wmf wikis (except meta) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32593  +comment (10krenair)
[16:35:21] <Raylton>	 Reedy,  OMG ... this is a long time. Does before that, no one(which is not too busy), can help me? Please!
[16:35:38] <Reedy>	 No idea. It's a weekend
[16:35:41] <Reedy>	 Can't you just use svn?
[16:35:45] <sumanah>	 Daniel_krank: hi
[16:35:47] <Reedy>	 Krenair: yeah, looks like it is dbname
[16:35:53] <Krenair>	 Hm okay.
[16:35:57] <Reedy>	 lol, Raylton ^ sumanah is here now :p
[16:36:01] <Krenair>	 In that case I've broken something completely.
[16:36:25] <Raylton>	 Reedy, =D 
[16:36:38] <sumanah>	 oh dear, I don't like the sound of this ;-)
[16:37:18] <Reedy>	 sumanah: patch review https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33186#c4 :)
[16:37:22] <Krenair>	 The following wikis do not exist: mediawiki_test_CentralAuthTest, mediawiki_test_CentralAuthTest2.
[16:37:30] <Krenair>	 Those are my wiki database names.
[16:37:40] <sumanah>	 thank you Reedy 
[16:37:57] <Raylton>	 sumanah, can you help me  to access to git?
[16:38:15] <sumanah>	 Raylton: yes. 
[16:38:38] <Raylton>	 sumanah, I have commit access(svn) but apparently was not automatically converted to git. What I do?
[16:38:43] <sumanah>	 Raylton: just a moment
[16:38:52] <Raylton>	 sumanah, ok
[16:39:06] <sumanah>	 Raylton: give me these three pieces of info about yourself
[16:39:06] <sumanah>	     Preferred wiki username. This will also be the user's git username, so legal name would be reasonable
[16:39:06] <sumanah>	     Preferred email address
[16:39:06] <sumanah>	     Their svn account name 
[16:40:51] <Raylton>	 sumanah, may be what is in svn USERINFO?
[16:41:10] <sumanah>	 Raylton: ok, what's your SVN username?
[16:41:13] <Krenair>	 https://svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki/USERINFO/raylton.sousa
[16:41:20] <sumanah>	 Reedy: Raylton - FYI https://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Access#Access_FAQ
[16:42:25] <sumanah>	 there's a dot in the username?
[16:42:40] <sumanah>	 I guess that's allowed
[16:42:57] <sumanah>	 Raylton: have you already tried resetting your password at https://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:PasswordReset ?
[16:44:23] <nischayn22>	  Wouldn't it be nice if on every page on wikipedia had an embed button and than whenever someone is referring to an Article they could just embed the article instead of giving just giving a link, something like embedding the youtube player
[16:44:27] <Raylton>	 sumanah, yes
[16:44:52] <sumanah>	 Raylton: ok. what happened? did you get an error? did you get an email with a temp password?
[16:45:30] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Provide an API to rotate an image - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33186   +patch +reviewed; +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara)
[16:46:08] <Raylton>	 the page return: "There is no user by the name "Raylton P. Sousa". Usernames are case sensitive. Check your spelling, or create a new account."
[16:46:18] <Raylton>	 sumanah, ^
[16:46:23] <sumanah>	 Lydia_WMDE: Daniel_krank: I need some info to help me with the planning for Berlin
[16:46:29] <sumanah>	 Raylton: did you try some variants?
[16:46:34] <sumanah>	 Raylton: like, your svn username?
[16:46:41] <Lydia_WMDE>	 sumanah: shoot
[16:46:42] <Lydia_WMDE>	 :)
[16:46:51] <sumanah>	 will pm
[16:46:58] <Lydia_WMDE>	 k
[16:47:41] <Raylton>	 sumanah, yes.. i try "raylton.sousa" 
[16:49:13] <Raylton>	 sumanah, but the same thing happened
[16:51:06] <sumanah>	 Raylton: I don't know what the problem is.
[16:51:28] <sumanah>	 Raylton: I don't know how to check whether you have a labs account.,
[16:52:22] <sumanah>	 I am going to try to make one for you.
[16:53:18] <sumanah>	 Raylton: ok, I have done so. Please go to https://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:PasswordReset and try to log in with "Raylton P. Sousa" as the username
[16:54:29] <Raylton>	 sumanah, My svn history will be lost?
[16:54:37] <sumanah>	 Raylton: no, why would you think that?
[16:55:24] <sumanah>	 Raylton: these are two completely different systems -- please read https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Conversion#Affected_development_projects
[16:55:40] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Duplication of defaults in wgAddGroups/wgRemoveGroups - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35283 normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (Ruslik00)
[16:56:35] <sumanah>	 Raylton: I do not know why Ryan_Lane's script didn't catch you and make a Labs user account for you.  Maybe the dot in the username made the script skip you
[16:56:37] <sumanah>	 I don't know
[16:56:46] <sumanah>	 can you log in to https://labsconsole.wikimedia.org ?
[16:56:57] <sumanah>	 or can you go to https://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:PasswordReset and get a temporary password?
[16:57:49] <Raylton>	 sumanah, it's work \o/
[16:58:02] <sumanah>	 Raylton: great
[16:58:42] <Raylton>	 sumanah, I can put a different password of svn?
[16:59:52] <Raylton>	 sumanah, must be the same password in svn?
[17:00:12] <Reedy>	 svn doesn't use passwords...
[17:00:30] <sumanah>	 Raylton: just reset your password
[17:00:38] <sumanah>	 Raylton: just use https://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:PasswordReset
[17:00:44] <wikibugs>	 04(REOPENED) remove local stewards user group from wmf wikis (except meta) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32593  +comment (10Tim Weyer)
[17:00:50] <sumanah>	 Raylton: your Gerrit & Labsconsole password will be its own credential
[17:01:28] <sumanah>	 argh I am guessing from Raylton's questions that https://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Access#Initial_log_in is just not good enough
[17:02:14] <Reedy>	 It's either that, or he didn't find it (so it's not visible enough)
[17:02:14] <Raylton>	 Reedy, you are right... that is my passwor ssh = S
[17:03:06] <sumanah>	 Raylton: how did you find out about the Git/gerrit changeover? tell me what pages or mailing list posts you saw so I can add relevant documentation links
[17:04:25] <Raylton>	 sumanah, wikitech blog and  mailing list emails
[17:05:04] <sumanah>	 Reedy: : well, Ryan's first post about this mentioned https://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Access#Initial_log_in (I just improved that).  I will have to work on the blog post thing
[17:06:26] <Raylton>	 sumanah, but when I try to create an account gerrit he sends me to http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Commit_access, which does not help
[17:06:28] <sumanah>	 Reedy: https://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Access#Giving_users_Labs_access.2C_if_they_already_have_an_SVN_account you have the power to help these folks yourself
[17:06:35] <sumanah>	 Raylton: who does?
[17:07:39] <Reedy>	 sumanah: the script isn't in $PATH for me
[17:07:56] <Raylton>	 sorry...  "he" is same thing of "it"  in portuguese
[17:08:06] <Reedy>	 what does "which add-labs-user" give for you?
[17:08:21] <sumanah>	 Reedy: /usr/local/sbin/add-labs-user
[17:08:26] <Raylton>	 sumanah, ^
[17:08:44] <sumanah>	 Raylton: ok, please be clear.  what page or blog post or email, SPECIFICALLY, is pointing you to http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Commit_access ?
[17:09:15] <sumanah>	 I can't fix things if I don't know what pages to fix
[17:10:46] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Magic words are considered to be (non-existing) templates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31576  +comment (10sam)
[17:10:59] * sumanah  looks at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Commit_access

[17:12:37] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Can't install LiquidThreads extension from web updater - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35284 normal; MediaWiki extensions: LiquidThreads; (quim.gil)
[17:12:55] <Raylton>	 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/ "register" link point me to it. Blog me point to only to http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git
[17:13:10] <sumanah>	 ok, thanks
[17:19:26] <codurr>	 03reedy * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114057> 10/trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/classes/Hooks.php: Use more normal $dir code, remove duplicate loading of same file as it's going to give errors
[17:22:49] <codurr>	 03reedy * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114058> 10/branches/ (4 files in 4 dirs): MFT x2 r114057
[17:24:00] <sumanah>	 someone needs to fix the mediawiki.org Commit Access page so it actually helps people apply for Git/Gerrit access.  I will probably have to do that sometime today or tomorrow :/
[17:24:04] <sumanah>	 but for now I need to get off IRC
[17:24:12] <sumanah>	 thank you Raylton & Reedy 
[17:24:40] <Raylton>	 sumanah, thank you too
[17:25:09] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Can't install LiquidThreads extension from web updater - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35284  +comment (10sam)
[17:35:24] <wikibugs>	 03(WONTFIX) remove local stewards user group from wmf wikis (except meta) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32593  +comment (10Quentinv57)
[17:37:19] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) remove local stewards user group from wmf wikis (except meta) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32593  +comment (10Ruslik00)
[17:44:53] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) remove local stewards user group from wmf wikis (except meta) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32593  +comment (10SVG)
[17:54:00] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) remove local stewards user group from wmf wikis (except meta) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32593  +comment (10quentinv57)
[17:55:03] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Fix and publish our Debian package for TestSwarm - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35282  +comment (10hashar)
[17:56:56] * varnent  returning from iPad exploration mode

[18:00:12] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) remove local stewards user group from wmf wikis (except meta) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32593  +comment (10SVG)
[18:02:00] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Support for base64 Content-Transfer-Encoding in multipart posts. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35285 normal; MediaWiki: API; (M8R-udfkkf)
[18:06:09] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Support for base64 Content-Transfer-Encoding in multipart posts. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35285  normal->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[18:22:37] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) remove local stewards user group from wmf wikis (except meta) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32593  +comment (10quentinv57)
[18:25:14] <Spakman>	 After upgrading from 1.16.4 -> 1.18.1 I am seeing lots of these in the Apache error log: "" is not a valid magic word for "revisionmonth1" (etc) - any idea how to fix this?
[18:31:03] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) remove local stewards user group from wmf wikis (except meta) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32593  +comment (10SVG)
[18:38:11] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Can't install LiquidThreads extension from web updater - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35284  +comment (10quim.gil)
[18:49:19] <Raylton>	 Guys!  I already got access to git ... how do I export my extension to git, without history is lost ?
[18:49:43] <yuvipanda>	 Reedy: thanks for reviewing that patch fast!
[18:49:48] <yuvipanda>	 (part of the chennai hackathon)
[18:52:46] <Raylton>	 Reedy or Ryan_Lane  can help me?
[18:53:49] <Raylton>	 please =D 
[19:00:22] <Raylton>	 guys! how do I export my extension to git, without lost svn history?
[19:02:21] <Ryan_Lane>	 I'm only involved for the puppet repo. I helped out with user creation as a favor.
[19:02:33] <Ryan_Lane>	 I'm really not the guy to go to for this
[19:04:07] <codurr>	 03jeroendedauw * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114059> 10/trunk/extensions/EducationProgram/ (6 files in 3 dirs): work on special:studentactivity
[19:04:10] <Platonides>	 Raylton, see git help svn
[19:04:20] <Platonides>	 there are a few more ways, though
[19:04:59] <Platonides>	 if your extension is in our svn, you can just ask ^demon to convert it
[19:04:59] <Reedy>	 yuvipanda: np :)
[19:05:36] <yuvipanda>	 Reedy: i'm guilty for the 'two attachments' though, I told him to do it 'not a big deal'. Clearly wrong. Will fix next time
[19:06:12] <Raylton>	 Platonides, yes... is in our svn.
[19:06:34] <Reedy>	 yuvipanda: it's not really a big deal, I just included it as it looks neater
[19:06:46] <yuvipanda>	 Reedy: okay :)
[19:09:20] <Krenair>	 Raylton, ask ^demon
[19:10:00] <Raylton>	 Krenair, when ^demon will be here? 
[19:10:26] <Reedy>	 When he's not on holiday
[19:10:47] <Krenair>	 I don't know
[19:10:55] <Reedy>	 from Tuesday
[19:13:16] <Raylton>	 ok... only he can (or responsible for) to do this, right?
[19:14:29] <Raylton>	 or is responsible for*  
[19:27:06] <Reedy>	 No
[19:27:17] <Reedy>	 You can do it yourself, if you can find instructions and such
[19:29:09] <JeroenDeDauw>	 wtf is this crap in SpecialPage? It's trying to include my special page of my extension but in the main specials dir. I don't want this - how do I make this code gtfo messing my stuff up?
[19:29:09] <JeroenDeDauw>	 if ( !is_callable( $func ) && $this->mFile ) { require_once( $this->mFile );
[19:33:00] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) SemanticForms does not respect $wgReadOnly (good enough). - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35286 enhancement; MediaWiki extensions: SemanticForms; (van.de.bugger)
[19:33:36] <vvv>	 Where do I ask my extension to be migrated to git?
[19:44:45] <Dantman>	 JeroenDeDauw: Code?
[19:45:09] <codurr>	 03jeroendedauw * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114060> 10/trunk/extensions/EducationProgram/ (5 files in 3 dirs): work on special:studentactivity
[19:46:19] <JeroenDeDauw>	 Dantman: my code using it? The only related thing I'm doing AFAIK is calling the execute method in the base class (which has that code) using parent::execute()
[19:46:28] <JeroenDeDauw>	 Should I not be doing this? Seems to me like I should.
[19:46:52] <Dantman>	 Ah... yeah, no-one calls parent::execute();
[19:54:05] <SimenOlai>	 How do I like move my wiki from home direction to like /w/ ?
[19:54:11] <SimenOlai>	 Is it just moving files?
[20:00:18] <Reedy>	 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Appeal&diff=482419711&oldid=478647006 <- Anyone want to suggest why those links appear as such in the diff? They are there in the previous revision....
[20:01:46] <saper>	 why seealso is twice?
[20:01:58] <saper>	 broken script for AWB
[20:03:17] <saper>	 it tries to do reordering of "final sections" and fails
[20:04:21] <saper>	 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:GENFIXES#Merge_See_also_.28MergeSeeAlso.29 or sth like that
[20:04:56] <saper>	 or this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:GENFIXES#Sort_meta_data_.28MetaDataSorter.29
[20:06:12] <SimenOlai>	 Anyone know what I should do?
[20:07:25] <saper>	 SimenOlai: yes, by moving files and updating LocalSettings.php ($wgScriptPath most probably and $wgArticlePath if set)
[20:07:38] <SimenOlai>	 Only that?
[20:07:45] <saper>	 yes
[20:07:49] <SimenOlai>	 Okay, thanks :)
[20:14:11] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Mass-create a bunch of Gerrit accounts for existing SVN committers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35209  +comment (10sumanah)
[20:17:33] <Reedy>	 saper: aha
[20:32:50] <codurr>	 03rsterbin * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114061> 10/trunk/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5/sql/ArticleFeedbackv5.sql: Removed a stray comma causing maintenance/update.php to break
[20:35:36] <JLs>	 Hello. I am searching for a mediawiki bot, which can copy (or scan) all articles (external) from a mediawiki to another mediawiki.
[20:36:14] <Reedy>	 !export
[20:36:15] <mw-bot>	 To export pages from a wiki, navigate to Special:Export on the wiki, type in the names of the pages to export, and hit "export". See <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Export> for an example of this form. See also: !import
[20:36:17] <Reedy>	 !import
[20:36:17] <mw-bot>	 To import pages a few pages, use Special:Import - you can also import pages directly from another wiki (see !importsources). For mass imports, use importDump.php - see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Importing_XML_dumps> for details. NOTE: when using content from another wiki, follow the LICENSE TERMS, especially, attribute source and authors!
[20:37:49] <JLs>	 Those moduls are disabled.
[20:37:56] <codurr>	 03van-de-bugger * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114062> 10/trunk/extensions/HidePrefix/ (HidePrefix.class.php HidePrefix.php): Bug: Sometimes $text is not a string but an object of message class, it causes an exception. Fixed.
[20:39:26] <codurr>	 03jeroendedauw * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114063> 10/trunk/extensions/EducationProgram/ (4 files in 3 dirs): work on i18n of duration stuff
[20:39:34] <saper>	 JLs: then have a look pywikipedia, learn how to use pagegenerators, Page.get() and Page.put() 
[20:39:45] <JLs>	 Reedy: Are there other ways to get that?
[20:39:55] <JLs>	 Thanks
[20:41:12] <Raylton>	 I know a lot of work to you today ... so thanks for the help =D (Platonides , Ryan_Lane , Reedy , Krenair, sumanah)  
[20:41:55] <Krenair>	 you're welcome, Raylton
[20:42:09] <JLs>	 saper: Is it possible, for GFDL purposes, to get complete histories?
[20:42:34] <JLs>	 Anyways, it looks like exactly the bot, I want to have.
[20:42:48] <saper>	 you can get everything, but you can't upload them without using Special:Impor
[20:42:55] <saper>	 Special:Import
[20:43:23] <saper>	 JLs: well it may use Special:Export which you say you don't have, so be careful
[20:43:59] <JLs>	 Thanks.
[20:44:35] <saper>	 Reedy: can I set a revision to "resolved" myself (as an author)?
[20:44:44] <codurr>	 03rsterbin * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114064> 10/trunk/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5/ (6 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed)
[20:44:44] <codurr>	 Brought trigger links into the plugin itself; styled flyover panel:
[20:44:44] <codurr>	 - modules/jquery.articleFeedbackv5/jquery.articleFeedbackv5.js:
[20:44:44] <codurr>	 * Brought in trigger links, standardized them, and added the disable
[20:44:45] <codurr>	 flyover.
[20:44:46] <codurr>	 - New property selectedLinks
[20:44:47] <codurr>	 - New template disableFlyover
[20:44:52] <Reedy>	 No, I think the code prevents that
[20:45:07] <saper>	 ok
[20:45:14] <sumanah>	 glad we could help, Raylton 
[20:50:51] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Give bureaucrats the ability to remove sysop rights at ro.wp - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33879  +comment (10crangasi2001)
[20:51:51] <codurr>	 03raymond * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114065> 10/trunk/ (38 files in 23 dirs): Localisation updates for core and extension messages from translatewiki.net
[20:53:10] <codurr>	 03raymond * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114066> 10/trunk/translatewiki/MediaWiki/mediawiki-defines.txt: r114064: Update keys. Ignored message was deleted.
[20:58:08] <joancreus>	 when a page loads brand new content to #bodyContent, is there a way to get the TOC to work? to make it more general: is there a way to run everything which is run on load? thanks
[20:58:49] <codurr>	 03jeroendedauw * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114067> 10/trunk/phase3/languages/ (Language.php messages/MessagesEn.php): adding a duration function to language that converts seconds to text
[21:03:49] <codurr>	 03van-de-bugger * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114068> 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticTitle/README: SemanticTitle: README updated.
[21:05:23] <bawolff>	 oh cool. I didn't know van-de-bugger had commit access
[21:05:32] <codurr>	 03van-de-bugger * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114069> 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticTitle/ (SemanticTitle.class.php SemanticTitle.php): SemanticTitle: New hook implemented to eliminate need in DEFAULTSORT, but not enabled due to issue (unknown parser).
[21:07:39] <codurr>	 03jeroendedauw * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114070> 10/trunk/extensions/EducationProgram/ (3 files in 2 dirs): follow up to r114067 and changed special:educationprogram to use new caching stuff
[21:12:26] <machine2>	  i encourage everyone to delete all adsense, and BOYCOTT google
[21:13:00] <bawolff>	 Did google go over to the dark side again?
[21:13:04] <codurr>	 03jeroendedauw * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114071> 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/language/messages.inc: Follow up to r114067;
[21:13:13] <codurr>	 03wikinaut * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114072> 10/trunk/extensions/AJAXPoll/ (AJAXPoll.php AJAXPoll_body.php resources/ajaxpoll.js): best version ever: fully jqueryfied. repaired non-ajax mode for wikis with wgUseAjax false
[21:13:21] <Reedy>	 If someone else came up with a decent search engine, I'd consider it
[21:14:27] <Ryan_Lane>	 Reedy: aww, come on bing is amazing
[21:14:38] <Ryan_Lane>	 and it's run by a company that is *way* more trustworthy than google
[21:14:57] <Ryan_Lane>	 or, even better, just stop using search engines and get all of your content via facebook
[21:15:10] <Ryan_Lane>	 because they aren't shady at all
[21:15:46] * Reedy  goes to make a brute forcing search engine

[21:18:38] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) remove local stewards user group from wmf wikis (except meta) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32593  +comment (10trijnstel)
[21:18:50] <codurr>	 New code comment: Bawolff; :$segments[] = wfMsgExt( 'duration-' . $name, 'parsemag', $value ); \ So if someone does $wgContLang-; <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114067#c32265>
[21:18:54] <joancreus>	 or maybe, reimplement a module?
[21:19:18] <joancreus>	 Ryan_Lane: so, we leave google because it's evil and we end up in facebook?
[21:19:33] <Reedy>	 A module? I prefer the wheel
[21:19:35] <codurr>	 03siebrand * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114073> 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ (FileDeleteForm.php specials/SpecialUndelete.php): Follow-up r113939: Add divs to addWikiText().
[21:19:42] <joancreus>	 (regarding the module->see my previous question)
[21:19:49] <codurr>	 New code comment: Siebrand; You're right.; <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/113939#c32266>
[21:20:09] <Ryan_Lane>	 joancreus: you've obviously missed the joke
[21:20:20] <Ryan_Lane>	 out of the companies available, google is the least evil
[21:20:36] <Ryan_Lane>	 there's no alternative, and good luck creating one
[21:20:38] <bawolff>	 joancreus: I know people doing live preview type features have wanted that for a while. I'm not sure if there's a way, one of those live preview gadets uses it
[21:22:19] <joancreus>	 Ryan_Lane: ooh out-of-context-error, sorry. when facebook appears on the screen, my brain sends a say-bad-things-about-facebook message which is typed in the screen
[21:22:47] <joancreus>	 bawolff: i'm trying to ajaxify wikipedia; by using the history API, i don't have to reinvent the wheel and it's working pretty fine
[21:22:52] <joancreus>	 still not usable 
[21:22:56] <joancreus>	 100%
[21:26:25] <saper>	 Reedy: switched to using duckduckgo.com few months ago, not that cool but has nice features (!bang syntax)
[21:26:45] <Reedy>	 isn't that just anonymised google?
[21:26:57] <joancreus>	 Reedy: *bing
[21:26:58] <saper>	 they combine google, bing and what not
[21:27:13] * bawolff  automatically doesn't trust anyone who says "trus us, we don't track you"

[21:27:50] <saper>	 I am considering setting up YaCy as well (in fact I did it once already) as a local proxy to store my own search history (and proxy my browser through it)
[21:28:32] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Pressing Enter multiple times at Special:MovePage creates multiple log entries - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35287 normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (nickwp)
[21:28:44] <saper>	 bawolff: actually lack of personalization is much more important to me than tracking
[21:29:04] <codurr>	 New code comment: Siebrand; Seeing the way i18n is handled here, makes me sad.; <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114064#c32267>
[21:29:17] <bawolff>	 The only bias i think google has for me is putting wikipedia search ranks on top
[21:29:36] * saper  gets crazing trying to use Accept-Language:pl browser while in Germany searching for English-language stuff. It doesn't work.

[21:29:48] <saper>	 Twitter started talking to me in Russian once.
[21:29:57] <bawolff>	 then again I only use google to find websites I already know exist
[21:30:13] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Pressing Enter multiple times at Special:MovePage creates multiple log entries - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35287  (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[21:30:40] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) the message articlefeedbackv5-disable-flyover-help-location is poorly placed and not needed anyway - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35288 normal; MediaWiki extensions: ArticleFeedbackv5; (amir.aharoni)
[21:31:06] <saper>	 to search my own browsing history I'd rather try something on my own; grepping privoxy logfile worked few times for me
[21:31:48] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Duplication of defaults in wgAddGroups/wgRemoveGroups - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35283  +comment (10sam)
[21:31:52] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Duplication of defaults in wgAddGroups/wgRemoveGroups - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35283  +comment (10sam)
[21:32:17] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) the message articlefeedbackv5-disable-flyover-help-location is poorly placed and not needed anyway - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35288  +comment (10amir.aharoni)
[21:34:30] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) A general interwiki language link to oldwikisource is required - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32189  normal->major; +comment (10Doug)
[21:37:04] <codurr>	 New code comment: Reedy; Also messages need adding to messages.inc; <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114067#c32268>
[21:37:08] <wikibugs>	 14(INVALID) MediaWiki h1 headers exposing span tags for some users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35235  +comment (10MZMcBride)
[21:37:24] <Joan>	 hexmode: That's how you cloes a bug. ^
[21:38:19] <codurr>	 New code comment: Reedy; Also, decade, millennia?; <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114067#c32269>
[21:38:35] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Add wikisource logo to mobile wikisource gateway - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35289 normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (thomaspt)
[21:40:30] <codurr>	 03van-de-bugger * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114074> 10/trunk/extensions/Genderize/ (Genderize.class.php Genderize.php): Genderize: Configure after inclusion (foolow-up to r112924).
[21:42:49] <codurr>	 New code comment: Jeroen De Dauw; Was already fixed by r114071; <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114067#c32270>
[21:43:04] <codurr>	 New code comment: Jeroen De Dauw; Feel free to add that.; <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114067#c32271>
[21:44:59] <wikibugs>	 03(FIXED) Add wikisource logo to mobile wikisource gateway - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35289  +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[21:45:43] <Joan>	 Jarry1250: Thanks again for the help resolving that bug. :D
[21:46:32] <Jarry1250>	 Heh, no problem.
[21:47:20] <codurr>	 03jeroendedauw * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114075> 10/trunk/phase3/languages/Language.php: follow up to r114067, use correct language
[21:48:20] <codurr>	 New code comment: Jeroen De Dauw; Absolutely right - I forgot to finish that part up :) Now fixed by r114075; <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114067#c32272>
[21:51:14] <codurr>	 03jeroendedauw * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114076> 10/trunk/extensions/EducationProgram/specials/SpecialCachedPage.php: follow up to r114075, also change compat code in EP
[21:52:58] <codurr>	 03jeroendedauw * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114077> 10/trunk/extensions/EducationProgram/ (6 files in 3 dirs): identify students by user name rather then id
[21:59:21] <codurr>	 03van-de-bugger * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114078> 10/trunk/extensions/Genderize/README: Genderize: README updated.
[22:04:44] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Enable sub page feature in Telugu Wikisource (te.wikisource.org) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35193  normal->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[22:04:45] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) se.wikimedia.org: allow users to edit their userpage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35185  normal->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[22:07:49] <codurr>	 New code comment: Reedy; You should probably add some unit tests to go with this too; <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114067#c32273>
[22:14:49] <codurr>	 03reedy * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114079> 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
[22:14:49] <codurr>	 Followup r114067
[22:14:49] <codurr>	 Add centuries because the messages were already there but not used
[22:14:49] <codurr>	 Add decade and millennia for the luls/completeness
[22:16:49] <codurr>	 New code comment: Reedy; I know 365.25 is technically right, but should it really be 365? \ Also, it really should be named fo; <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114067#c32274>
[22:19:42] <codurr>	 03foxtrott * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114080> 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/SF_AutoeditAPI.php: bugfix (Autoedit behaves odd since upgrade from SF2.2.1 to SF 2.4.1)
[22:26:08] <codurr>	 03jeroendedauw * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114081> 10/trunk/phase3/ (4 files in 4 dirs): adding special page with scaffolding for caching chunks of HTML
[22:26:31] <codurr>	 03reedy * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114082> 10/trunk/phase3/languages/Language.php: Followup r114067 rename to formatDuration to match other methods
[22:26:56] <codurr>	 03jeroendedauw * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114083> 10/trunk/extensions/EducationProgram/ (5 files in 3 dirs): follow up to r114081
[22:28:04] <codurr>	 New code comment: Jeroen De Dauw; ??? what other methods? The most similar methods are "time" and "date", which have the same format a; <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114082#c32275>
[22:32:07] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Allow bureaucrats to remove sysop rights on fr.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35258  -shellpolicy +shell; +comment (10Dan Collins)
[22:33:04] <codurr>	 New code comment: Jeroen De Dauw; Why would you not want to be technically right? 365.25 is not going to cause anyone getting confused; <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114067#c32276>
[22:34:04] <codurr>	 New code comment: Jeroen De Dauw; Yeah, I thought about that. Is there a place with language unit tests yet?; <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114067#c32277>
[22:38:34] <codurr>	 New code comment: Bawolff; phase3/tests/phpunit/languages/LanguageTest.php; <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114067#c32278>
[22:39:40] <codurr>	 03reedy * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114084> 10/trunk/phase3/tests/phpunit/languages/LanguageTest.php: Unit tests for r114067
[22:39:55] <codurr>	 03catrope * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114085> 10/trunk/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Add a temporary disclaimer text making it clear that this is a prototype. Requested by Fabrice
[22:41:04] <codurr>	 New code comment: Reedy; Yeah.. Bleugh. \ I wonder if we should add some more methods for consistency...; <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114067#c32279>
[22:41:10] * bawolff  wonders what the expected use case of that is? "You will be unblocked in 2 millennia?"

[22:41:36] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) New level of semi-protection - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/26254  +comment (10Dan Collins)
[22:42:58] <Dantman>	 bawolff: ^_^ Hopefully it's more for formatting durations on scientific articles
[22:43:02] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) dewiki: add user group arbcom - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/23000  +comment (10Dan Collins)
[22:43:20] <bawolff>	 ok, that'd be a good use
[22:44:23] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Install the "Quiz" extension on fr.wikt - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/23344  +comment (10Dan Collins)
[22:44:32] <Dantman>	 Some sort of central data driven scientific infobox containing the duration of time till our sun goes supernova
[22:45:22] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Torblock-unblocked right not given to sysops - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/18640  +comment (10EN.WP.ST47)
[22:47:10] <codurr>	 03reedy * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114086> 10/trunk/phase3/tests/phpunit/languages/LanguageTest.php: Noralise a few of the magic numbers used in r114084
[22:50:54] <codurr>	 03catrope * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114087> 10/branches/wmf/1.19wmf1/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5/ (3 files in 2 dirs): 1.19wmf1: MFT r114085
[22:51:53] <Dantman>	 ;) Look at this skin http://i.imgur.com/xjdsg.png
[22:52:58] <codurr>	 03reedy * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114088> 10/trunk/phase3/ (4 files in 4 dirs):
[22:52:58] <codurr>	 Trim trailing whitespace
[22:52:58] <codurr>	 Add/improve documentation
[22:52:58] <codurr>	 Explicitly define a few variables
[22:53:19] <codurr>	 New code comment: Rsterbin; ...really? I've read the docs, and I thought I was following them. If what I'm doing here is wrong; <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114064#c32280>
[22:54:43] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Move mo to mo-cyr, set up new Latin-based mo - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/4409  (10Dan Collins)
[22:55:03] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Add 'hideuser' right to CheckUser group Wikimedia-wide - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/18313  +comment (10Dan Collins)
[22:56:09] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Duplication of defaults in wgAddGroups/wgRemoveGroups - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35283  +comment (10sam)
[22:56:09] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Add $wgImportSources in Korean Wikinews - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24881  (10Dan Collins)
[22:56:19] <codurr>	 New code comment: Jeroen De Dauw; Could do that. Although deprecating the already existing ones is going to cause compat hassle in ext; <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114067#c32281>
[22:56:45] <Dantman>	 ashley: http://i.imgur.com/xjdsg.png
[22:57:30] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Article Feedback v5 - Develop Feedback link Option A (vs. Option E or no link) - Metrics test 2 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34406  +comment (10reha)
[22:58:11] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Article feedback v5 - Feedback button 'X' close box - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34403  +comment (10reha)
[22:59:02] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) new Namespace in ruwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/25113  (10Dan Collins)
[23:00:19] <codurr>	 New code comment: Reedy; Indeed. I suspect it's something that's not worth the hassle, there's no other gains really; <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114067#c32282>
[23:00:42] <wikibugs>	 04(REOPENED) 1.19 post-deployment actions (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31211  +comment (10Dan Collins)
[23:06:04] <codurr>	 New code comment: Jeroen De Dauw; Agreed. \ So we need to properly fix these inconsistencies... what about time travel?; <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114067#c32283>
[23:08:18] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Enable Extension:FlaggedRevs for siwiki (si.wikipedia.org) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/26778  (10Dan Collins)
[23:12:15] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Duplication of defaults in wgAddGroups/wgRemoveGroups - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35283  +comment (10sam)
[23:12:17] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Create group "autopatrolled" (addgroup by sysop) on mediawiki.org wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33720  (10Dan Collins)
[23:18:11] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Duplication of defaults in wgAddGroups/wgRemoveGroups - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35283  +comment (10sam)
[23:19:11] <wikibugs>	 04(REOPENED) enable the collection extension on he.wikipedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22011  +comment (10Dan Collins)
[23:19:17] <Aaron|home>	 Ryan_Lane: I baffled why I can ssh into gerrit but scp fails
[23:19:23] <JeroenDeDauw>	 Reedy: how can I just run the language unit tests?
[23:19:24] <Aaron|home>	 *I'm
[23:19:29] <Ryan_Lane>	 scp fails where?
[23:19:51] <Ryan_Lane>	 I don't really see a correlation there :D
[23:20:00] <Reedy>	 JeroenDeDauw: php phpunit.php languages/LanguageTest.php from tests/phpunit
[23:20:03] <Aaron|home>	 $ scp -P 29418 -v aaron@gerrit.wikimedia.org:hooks/commit-msg C:/wamp/www/wikimedia-test-git/core\.
[23:20:05] <Aaron|home>	 git/hooks\commit-msg
[23:20:23] <Ryan_Lane>	 why don't you just use the https link I sent?
[23:20:28] * Aaron|home  ran -v mode on both

[23:20:28] <Ryan_Lane>	 or is this for git review?
[23:20:41] <Aaron|home>	 it's what git review runs
[23:20:44] <Ryan_Lane>	 ah
[23:20:47] * Aaron|home  wants that to work right

[23:20:49] <JeroenDeDauw>	 Reedy: cool, thnx
[23:21:11] <Ryan_Lane>	 yeah
[23:21:13] <Ryan_Lane>	 agreed
[23:21:14] <Aaron|home>	 Ryan_Lane: ssh and scp both get to the "Offering public key path/to/key" part
[23:21:20] <Aaron|home>	 one fails and the other doesnt
[23:21:26] <Aaron|home>	 one the same key
[23:21:28] <Ryan_Lane>	 try now
[23:21:33] <Ryan_Lane>	 I'm wathing the log
[23:21:38] <Ryan_Lane>	 *watching
[23:21:45] <Aaron|home>	 ok, did you see it?
[23:21:48] <Ryan_Lane>	 no
[23:21:48] <Aaron|home>	 that was scp
[23:21:58] <Ryan_Lane>	 try again
[23:22:03] <Ryan_Lane>	 watching a different log
[23:22:40] * Aaron|home  tried a few more times

[23:22:50] <Ryan_Lane>	 I don't see it in the logs at all
[23:22:56] <Ryan_Lane>	 what error do you get?
[23:22:59] <Aaron|home>	 let me do ssh
[23:23:11] <Aaron|home>	 did that show?
[23:23:21] <Ryan_Lane>	 no
[23:23:37] <Ryan_Lane>	 why is my system telling me that gerrit's key changed?
[23:23:39] <Aaron|home>	 well that succeeded, so maybe it would show in the log
[23:23:48] <Aaron|home>	 *wouldn't
[23:24:05] <Ryan_Lane>	 scp is, but ssh isn't
[23:24:16] <Ryan_Lane>	 that's fucked up
[23:25:50] <Aaron|home>	 can I dump the -v output in pm?
[23:25:50] <Ryan_Lane>	 that's why it's failing
[23:26:06] <Ryan_Lane>	 no need. scp is reporting one key while ssh is reporting another
[23:26:09] <Ryan_Lane>	 that'll cause failures
[23:26:13] <Aaron|home>	 ahh
[23:26:15] <Ryan_Lane>	 it isn't even making it to the server
[23:26:33] <Ryan_Lane>	 oh
[23:26:33] <Ryan_Lane>	 wait
[23:26:39] <codurr>	 03jeroendedauw * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114089> 10/trunk/phase3/tests/phpunit/languages/LanguageTest.php: follow up to r114084, add tests for stuff w/ multiple units
[23:26:43] <Ryan_Lane>	 I know why
[23:26:50] <Ryan_Lane>	 I'm using -p :)
[23:27:23] <Ryan_Lane>	 it works for me
[23:27:28] <Ryan_Lane>	 have you tried on a non-windows system?
[23:28:02] <Ryan_Lane>	 try: cp -P 29418 -v aaron@gerrit.wikimedia.org:hooks/commit-msg .
[23:28:05] <Ryan_Lane>	 err
[23:28:05] <Ryan_Lane>	 scp
[23:28:17] <Ryan_Lane>	 so that you know it's not the pathing screwing things up
[23:29:23] <Aaron|home>	 I haven't tried it on *nix :/
[23:29:31] <Ryan_Lane>	 it's working perfectly fine for me
[23:29:31] * Aaron|home  will on Monday

[23:30:55] <Aaron|home>	 Ryan_Lane: your command worked
[23:31:00] <Aaron|home>	 I see the hook file in the working dir
[23:31:02] <Ryan_Lane>	 it's a pathing issue
[23:31:13] <Ryan_Lane>	 maybe put the path in quotes?
[23:33:08] <Aaron|home>	 no luck
[23:37:36] <wikibugs>	 14(WFM) Can't install LiquidThreads extension from web updater - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35284  (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[23:41:25] <Reedy>	 Ahhh, that very common 42 millennia and 42 seconds duration
[23:41:45] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Prevent creation of new (unattached?) SUL accounts with already unified names - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29234  +comment (10krenair)
[23:52:41] <codurr>	 03foxtrott * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114090> 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticFormsInputs/libs/ (datepicker.js timepicker.js):
[23:52:41] <codurr>	 bugfix (timepicker button does not toggle);
[23:52:41] <codurr>	 fix bug 34360 (Datetimepicker: Is not dimmed if user does not have edit right.)
[23:52:42] <wikibugs>	 03(FIXED) Datetimepicker: Is not dimmed if user does not have edit right. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34360  +comment (10f.trott)
[23:53:24] <codurr>	 03jeroendedauw * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114091> 10/trunk/extensions/EducationProgram/EducationProgram.i18n.php: qqq++