should only contain the page text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35247 +comment (10Krinkle) [13:58:13] 03(mod) [jquery.tipsy] Feature to keep tip active when hovering to and over the tip itself - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35212 summary (10Krinkle) [14:00:56] JeroenDeDauw: I hope you have fun with that :) [14:07:11] hi there [14:09:11] hi mabafu [14:10:02] hey Max, I've just started my wiki learning curve... looking forward for some hints [14:10:13] I am getting "Could not find a suitable database driver!" even though I can see both mysql and SQLite driver in phpinfo(); [14:10:23] During install. [14:11:21] pom, do you have pdo_sqlite or simply sqlite? [14:12:03] MaxSem: Actually, I had not noticed that you had to restart the installation explicitly when you had run into problems. [14:12:10] It passed once I did that. [14:12:24] meh, known problem [14:14:08] 03reedy * 10/trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/classes/Hooks.php: Partial revert r114058 [14:14:53] @MaxSem regarding {{{parameters}}} there is any way I can pass a parameter array and iterate among the passed values? [14:16:05] New code comment: Krinkle;
 \ + if ( $this->cacheExpiry < 1000000000 ) { \ .. \ + wfGetCache( CACHE_ANYTHING )->set( $this->g; 
[14:16:23] 	 core MW doesn't support this
[14:17:52] 	 03(mod) content-holding  should only contain the page text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35247  +comment (10Bergi)
[14:18:04] 	 @MaxSem tks... :( I'll have to think about something else then :/
[14:19:19] 	 03reedy *  10/branches/ (4 files in 4 dirs):
[14:19:19] 	 MFT r114138
[14:19:19] 	 r114058
[14:20:20] 	 03(mod) VIPS out of memory on large (>100 Mpx) non-progressive JPEG - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32721  +comment (10John Cupitt)
[14:20:45] 	 03(mod) Timeline tag generates PNG images rather than SVG - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35320  (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[14:21:56] 	 03(mod) Timeline tag generates PNG images rather than SVG - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35320  normal->15enhancement; +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[14:32:20] 	 New code comment: Krinkle;  \ ---------- \ Index: trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialProtectedpages.php \ ---------- \ @@ -187,; 
[14:34:30] 	 03krinkle *  10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialProtectedpages.php: [Html::namespaceSelector clean up] fix broken html from r114131
[14:36:35] 	 New code comment: Krinkle; Fixed in r114140; 
[14:39:35] 	 New code comment: Krinkle; Could you please stop committing to trunk and REL1_19 at the same time? \ I noticed it a few times no; 
[14:40:50] 	 New code comment: Krinkle; Done in r114121.; 
[14:41:50] 	 03(FIXED) DNSBL related block settings broken. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35303  +comment (10Krinkle)
[14:43:35] 	 New code comment: Krinkle; It also makes it less obvious to merge to 1.19wmf1. \ btw: should this be backported to REL1_18 (for ; 
[14:43:51] 	 03(mod) DNSBL related block settings broken. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35303  (10Krinkle)
[14:48:42] 	 03(NEW) Special:NewMessages shouldn't have mw-catlinks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35322 normal; MediaWiki extensions: LiquidThreads; (krinklemail)
[14:50:54] 	 14(DUP) Special:NewMessages shouldn't have mw-catlinks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35322  +comment (10Krinkle)
[14:50:55] 	 03(mod) Special:NewMessages shouldn't show threads categories - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29633  +comment (10Krinkle)
[14:51:07] 	 03reedy *  10/trunk/extensions/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Bug 35319 - typo: "occured" in articlefeedback-error string
[14:51:20] 	 03(FIXED) Speedup nested group authentication when using Active Directory LDAP - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33904  +comment (10Asbjørn A. Fellinghaug)
[14:51:29] 	 03(FIXED) typo: "occured" in articlefeedback-error string - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35319  +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[14:52:14] 	 04(REOPENED) Speedup nested group authentication when using Active Directory LDAP - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33904  (10Asbjørn A. Fellinghaug)
[14:54:05] 	 New code comment: Krinkle; Is there a way to override this from CLI or LocalSettings? I think the WMF instance should at least ; 
[14:54:46] 	 03reedy *  10/trunk/extensions/ (31 files in 27 dirs): Fix many more occured typos
[14:55:14] 	 03jhsoby *  10/trunk/extensions/DonationInterface/gateway_common/countries.i18n.php: Adding Arabic translation of 'Mauritania' to countries.i18n.php
[14:58:05] 	 New code comment: Krinkle;  \ +'cachedspecial-viewing-cached-ts' => 'Message notifying they are watching a cached page.', \ <; 
[14:59:00] 	 03(mod) Remove Nested Transactions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27283  +comment (10Marcin Cieślak)
[14:59:33] 	 03reedy *  10/trunk/extensions/ (30 files in 26 dirs): Many other occurance/occurence typos
[15:02:21] 	 03(mod) typo: "occured" in articlefeedback-error string - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35319  +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[15:12:14] 	 03jdlrobson *  10/trunk/extensions/MobileFrontend/templates/SearchTemplate.php:
[15:12:14] 	 remove languageselection div
[15:12:14] 	 there are currently 2 elements with id
[15:12:14] 	 languageselection. This one appears to be
[15:12:15] 	 redundant
[15:14:24] 	 sumanah: hey
[15:15:04] 	 hi potter 
[15:15:14] 	 I was thinking of an extension "NoteBox".In which user can take down notes from wikipedia pages in the more effective way.
[15:15:18] 	 sumanah: I was thinking of an extension "NoteBox".In which user can take down notes from wikipedia pages in the more effective way.
[15:15:42] 	 notes =  collect information
[15:16:29] 	 sumanah: i wanted to discuss about this extension with you
[15:16:45] 	 potter: why me specifically? I'm not a MediaWiki developer. :-) perhaps because of Google Summer of Code?
[15:17:08] 	 yeah GSoC.i spoke to Nikerabbit 
[15:17:10] 	 hi jclerner 
[15:17:17] 	 sumanah: hey hey!
[15:18:13] 	 sumanah: he told me to speak to you once
[15:18:17] 	 potter: ok. do you have a specification or any more detailed description of how you want this to work?
[15:18:22] 	 Nikerabbit: ping re potter's idea
[15:18:45] 	 sumanah: been working on a wordpress project - i now have a response to anyone who complains about the quality of mediawiki code - wordpress is so much worse
[15:19:08] 	 jclerner: ha!
[15:19:20] 	 sumanah: i dont have a detailed description,but i wanted to tell you the overall idea
[15:20:20] 	 potter: ok, tell me the general idea
[15:20:38] 	 Many times when we prepare a project report(Eg "Report on OpenSource") or similar things,we end up opening many wiki pages(and mess up our browser window!) .
[15:21:12] 	 sumanah: after opening many windows , we copy/paste articles from wiki pages in out text editor
[15:21:51] 	 sumanah: if the number of pages exceed a limit , things get messed up
[15:21:51] 	 03(mod) Do not show "template transcluded" and "categories" part when an old revision is being edited - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/25894  (10Krinkle)
[15:21:56] 	 What if we had to just select an text from the wiki page and press a shortcut(2/3 keys).
[15:22:09] 	 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34791 please anyone fix this
[15:22:22] 	 Once the user does the above,the text will be copied automatically in the "NoteBox - section at the bottom of the screen and will be expandible/collapsible".
[15:23:08] 	 sumanah: User will have smooth time going through the articles and grabing important information
[15:23:34] 	 potter: why do you think this should be an extension rather than a gadget?
[15:24:07] 	 jayanta: why is this urgent?
[15:24:36] 	 sumanah: yeah it can be a gadget..even Nikerabbit suggested this
[15:25:20] 	 sumanah: i think that we need such an extension/gadget is because nowadays the size of the atricles are increasing and the number of articles for a given topic are also increasing, thus it takes more time to go through articles and then choose the right content.
[15:25:26] 	 03reedy *  10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/mwdocgen.php:
[15:25:26] 	 Fix switch fall through
[15:25:26] 	 Remove code for getting svn rev from SVN less than 1.4 - Ubuntu 8.04 LTS has 1.4.6 so should be pretty safe
[15:26:00] 	 potter: why don't people just copy and paste stuff to a text editor on their own computers?
[15:26:35] 	 potter: before the number of pages gets unmanageable?
[15:26:59] 	 sumanah: because we keep on searching for better information
[15:27:01] 	 potter: or use Evernote or Zotero?
[15:27:21] 	 I use the EditSubpages extension on my wiki to allow anonymous users to edit talk pages, but it seems that it only works after one have logged in and then out again. Users who never logged in still can not edit the unlocked pages. What can be the problem?
[15:27:38] 	 sumanah: I have seen many of my friends do this - 
[15:27:45] 	 sumanah: and i got this idea after seeing them do this
[15:27:50] 	 New code comment: Reedy; We could run a second copy and call it doclite or something \ It seems a bit daft making people build; 
[15:27:51] 	 potter: perhaps you should suggest that they use Zotero
[15:28:38] 	 sumanah: i didnt know about Zotero
[15:28:50] 	 now you do :)
[15:29:16] 	 sumanah: my idea is that the user will copy only a section of the article.
[15:29:55] 	 sumanah: not the whole article 
[15:29:58] 	 yes, Zotero lets you do that too
[15:30:28] 	 or Evernote does
[15:30:49] 	 sumanah: ah
[15:30:54] 	 I believe
[15:32:14] 	 iirc there's an append clipboard util, too.
[15:32:14] 	 (which would likewise resolve this.)
[15:32:44] 	 Amgine: this is within... MediaWiki? the browser?
[15:32:54] 	 JS?
[15:33:19] 	 Operating system.
[15:33:54] 	 Which OS, potter?
[15:34:10] 	 linux/GNU
[15:34:38] 	 potter: also, I am not the god of MediaWiki so all my thoughts here are my own :-)  and if you still think you want to make this thing then of course you should "scratch your own itch".
[15:34:57] 	 potter: but it doesn't sound compelling enough that you will be able to find someone who wants to mentor it this summer
[15:35:53] 	 sumanah: hmmm
[15:36:14] 	 sumanah: what does it lack?
[15:36:57] 	 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/522362/concatenating-to-clipboard
[15:38:35] 	 potter: in my opinion it doesn't seem to be a unique solution to any particularly pressing problem.  People can deal with this problem easily by simply being a bit more careful about copying and pasting stuff to a text file as they work.
[15:38:41] 	 Or by using Evernote or Zotero.
[15:38:50] 	 sumanah: yeah..
[15:39:33] 	 if you look at past projects https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Summer_of_Code_Past_Projects all of them solve a problem
[15:39:58] 	  like allowing users to transclude templates from one Wikimedia wiki to another
[15:40:07] 	 or "Improve metadata support for uploaded media in MediaWiki by displaying embedded IPTC and XMP metadata."
[15:40:17] 	 sumanah: ?
[15:41:01] 	 potter: these past Google Summer of Code projects all solved problems that users didn't have reasonable workarounds for
[15:41:44] 	 sumanah: yeah..i was even interested in "Automatically tagging photos in Wikimedia Commons using computerized object recognitio"
[15:42:39] 	 sumanah: i have experience with OpenCv(did a project in summer),but not to very complex level.Whom should i speak to about this?
[15:43:35] 	 potter: I don't know.  Maarten Dammers told me that he doesn't think he has time to mentor this summer.
[15:44:04] 	 sumanah: oh.anyone else you think could be interested?
[15:44:10] 	 I'm not sure.
[15:44:12] 	 let me think
[15:45:05] 	 I'm looking at the discussion thread here http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2012-February/thread.html#58280
[15:46:10] 	 potter: you could write to the commons-l list and ask them if anyone is interested in mentoring you on this https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/commons-l
[15:48:04] 	 sumanah: i wrote on multichil's page,but havent got a response yet
[15:48:48] 	 sumanah: looks like we doubled the size of the GSoC page yesterday :)
[15:48:56] 	 JeroenDeDauw: yeah
[15:49:08] 	 JeroenDeDauw: it looks like that
[15:49:09] 	 misleading
[15:49:24] 	 sumanah: JeroenDeDauw :more that double ;)
[15:49:24] 	 just created headers for all the existing ideas
[15:49:42] 	 + SMW stuff
[15:49:42] 	 Which is a good thing
[15:49:45] 	 yes
[15:49:51] 	 easier to link to, etc
[15:50:40] 	 I'm thinking it would be clearer if each thing was indented or was in a box with some background or so, now it's a huge wall of text :/
[15:51:28] 	 JeroenDeDauw: if you'd like, go ahead and format it so it's a little easier to read; I am working on some other stuff :-/
[15:55:08] 	 03(mod)  $unreadable on high contrast theme - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35200  +comment (10Alex Cole)
[16:02:08] Hi, I have made a plugin for ConfirmEdit https://github.com/nischayn22/MCQCaptcha please do leave comments :)
[16:02:21] 03(mod) Set $wgPasswordSenderName to $wgSitename to clarify notification emails - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32770  15enhancement->normal; -shell +i18n; +comment (10Siebrand)
[16:10:39] 04(REOPENED) Magic words are considered to be (non-existing) templates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31576  +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[16:11:48] nischayn22: are you going to email wikitech-l or mediawiki-l to get more comments? :)
[16:12:05] sumanah: check your mail :)
[16:12:17] nischayn22: nicely done!
[16:12:20] I thought I had :)
[16:12:36] * sumanah  prays to Tomato :D
[16:13:06] sumanah: nothing else came on my mind :D
[16:13:18] sumanah: so is the extension useful?
[16:13:21] I don't know
[16:13:29] hmm
[16:13:36] maybe?
[16:13:42] I will let other people give you feedback
[16:13:46] people with more expertise
[16:13:51] and should I also mail to mediawiki-l ?
[16:14:06] I haven't subscribed to it yet
[16:14:13] 03jeroendedauw * 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialCachedPage.php: Follow up to r114081; address krinkles comment
[16:14:33] nischayn22: I think it's worth it
[16:14:36] for you, right now
[16:14:37] check it out
[16:14:40] try it for a few weeks
[16:14:43] see if it is useful
[16:15:32] I have never had so many mails on my inbox :P
[16:16:22] * nischayn22  loves mail filters
[16:20:50] New code comment: Jeroen De Dauw; Ok, changed to the value you suggested in r114147. However do note that I got the value that I used ; [16:25:53] 03jeroendedauw * 10/trunk/extensions/EducationProgram/ (4 files in 4 dirs): allow setting default course descriptions via wiki pages
[16:27:04] 03(mod) Set $wgPasswordSenderName to $wgSitename to clarify notification emails - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32770  +comment (10Strainu)
[16:29:15] 03jeroendedauw * 10/trunk/extensions/EducationProgram/EducationProgram.settings.php: added in flag names
[16:29:39] 03(NEW) CSS for input.historysubmit in monobook - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35323 normal; MediaWiki: History/Diffs; (rainerrillke)
[16:30:33] 03(mod) CSS for input.historysubmit in monobook - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35323  normal->trivial (10Rainer@Rillke.eu)
[16:32:16] 03jdlrobson * 10/trunk/extensions/MobileFrontend/stylesheets/beta_common.css:
[16:32:16] make references line up with content_wrapper
[16:32:16] thanks heatherw for pointing this out
[16:32:40] is there a wiki code for referring to the url of the page the code is on?  i'm including a fb tab in a template for new pages, and need to refer to the url of the new page being created. any help much appreciated
[16:34:47] i need to put it in this line: [16:35:29] and since it's a template, it needs to be code that will transfer into the current page that is being created.  anyone got experience with this?
[16:35:33] Hi... Can anyone help me with an extension question? I'm trying to include a file from outside the MyExtension directory.
[16:36:40] Till_Kraemer: did you change the path in the "require.." line in LocalSettings.php?
[16:37:49] No... You mean I should just move my extension outside the extension directory and adjust LocalSettings.php?
[16:39:04] why do you need to include a file from outside the extensions directory? anyway, as far as i know, they just need to be the same - your extension and the path in LocalSettings.php... 
[16:39:46] although very likely there could be requirements in the extension that needs the normal path, ie. extensions/NameOfExtension/Whatever.php, so better stick to that if you can..
[16:40:03] 03ialex * 10/trunk/extensions/CentralAuth/CentralAuth.php:
[16:40:03] * (bug 34980) [Regression] IRC action text should never contain HTML for title
[16:40:03] Regression from r106782: extensions using $wgLogActionsHandlers need to check $skin and not make a HTML link if that parameter is not an object
[16:40:19] sumanah: http://www.sharpley.org.uk/node/30
[16:40:33]$  \ function L; 
[17:15:39] 	 03van-de-bugger *  10/trunk/extensions/AntiSpoof/ (AntiSpoof.i18n.php AntiSpoof_body.php): Fix for bug 12500, almost reviewed there.
[17:17:22] 	 03(mod) Throwing an exception in User::setPassword() will expose the password - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30714  +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[17:17:24] 	 03jdlrobson *  10/trunk/extensions/MobileFrontend/javascripts/references.js:
[17:17:24] 	 provide different animations for references
[17:17:24] 	 provide a slide animation as well as one with no
[17:17:24] 	 animation
[17:17:25] 	 also clear the lastLink as otherwise a 3rd click on
[17:17:26] 	 a link will not re-reveal it
[17:17:26] 	 03(mod) [[MediaWiki:Antispoof-name-illegal]] should provide information about the illegal and / or blocked characters in / at the wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/12500  +comment (10Van de Bugger)
[17:22:14] 	 03(mod) Run "refreshLinks.php --dfn-only" on all wikis periodically - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/16112  +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[17:23:01] 	 Amgine: thanks again... reading up on MediaWiki::getTitle.. but I cant put this straight in the href of the extension line? do i have to change the php of the extension?
[17:23:21] 	 Is there anything on MW.org that allows me to have a page displaying rendered wikitext pulled from a file on the svn?
[17:24:24] 	 Erm.  Where in blazes is link() implemented along the Skin hiearchy?  I see references to $somecontext->getSkin()->link() but can't find documentation for it anywhere
[17:26:58] 	 bsitu: hi, you had a question about the Git workflow?
[17:27:06] 	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Workflow
[17:27:38] 	 Coren: it isn't, though it was, sort of
[17:27:50] 	 03jeroendedauw *  10/trunk/extensions/EducationProgram/docs/ (. schema.txt): added schema docs
[17:28:20] 	 Skin has a __call() function to intercept link functions calls and route them to Linker::
[17:28:29] 	 03(mod) Remove Nested Transactions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27283  +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[17:29:14] 	 sumanah: yes, I got some error when I ran git review -s
[17:29:21] 	 AaronSchulz: My god, you really exercise the more obsucre PHP arcana!  I wonder what proportion of PHP bugs were found by mw hackers?  :-)
[17:29:50] 	 bsitu: ok! hashar will be able to help you, I think
[17:29:53] 	 far better than I can
[17:29:56] * sumanah  goes into a meeting
[17:30:06] 	 sumanah: thanks
[17:30:20] 	 New code comment: Van de Bugger; 1. I do not think about my own benefit only. These declarators don't change anything for you, theref; 
[17:30:30] 	 JeroenDeDauw: got asked the other day if i could oracly SMW or in other words make all you MySQL guys on the project some more problems and i was wondering what's the state of SQL code in SMW ... as in how much of the raw queries have already been rewritten to function calls?
[17:31:38] 	 sumanah: went trough the GSoC stuff you sent me the other day ... did you have a specific mentorship in mind for me or just in general?
[17:31:48] 	 hrm... errors about a missing ploticus
[17:32:09] 	 freakolowsky: I didn't have one in mind.  If you have a specific project you'd like to mentor, please feel free to mention it on the GSoC 2012 page
[17:32:14] 	 bsitu: yeah git is my new cheese :-]
[17:32:21] * sumanah  goes to meeting
[17:32:35] 	 Hi hashar
[17:32:35] 	 bsitu: you only have 10 minutes though Oo
[17:32:51] 	 when I ran git review -s
[17:33:05] 	 I got this: No '.gitreview' file found in this repository.
[17:33:06] 	 We don't know where your gerrit is. Please manually create 
[17:33:06] 	 a remote named gerrit and try again.
[17:33:35] 	 yeah git review is really dumb. You need to explain it where is gerrit. The best way is to copy paste from an existing one
[17:34:20] 	 bsitu: example : https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?p=test/mediawiki/core.git;a=blob_plain;f=.gitreview;hb=HEAD
[17:34:40] 	 bsitu: put that in a   .gitreview file at the root of your repository.  Then amend the 'project=' field to match your repo
[17:34:54] 	 hashar: ah, okay, let me try it, :)
[17:35:10] 	 03(mod) Run "refreshLinks.php --dfn-only" on all wikis periodically - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/16112  +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[17:39:05] 	 hashar: that solves the issue, thx
[17:39:13] 	 03(NEW) incomplete deletion of a record - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35327 minor; MediaWiki extensions: OmegaWiki; (infoCan.viki)
[17:40:20] 	 bsitu: then git commit -a  that .gitreview, and send it to the repo :-]
[17:41:21] 	 03(mod) [SRF] Not all selected Articles showing in format=calendar, timeline or eventline - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35318  (10Dan Collins)
[17:41:44] 	 nischayn22: ping
[17:45:48] 	 03(mod) Italian API: action=parse props=iwlinks, it no longer retrieves iw with prefix="commons" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35256  (10paontis)
[17:46:13] 	 Wikiguy2: I have no idea what you're trying to do. 
[17:46:31] 	 Tell me that and I might be able to help you better.
[17:46:35] 	 03(WONTFIX) The XSS filter in IE8/9 breaks certain tools - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32013  +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[17:47:23] 	 03(mod) zombie mailing list - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35324  +comment (10Dan Collins)
[17:49:03] 	 03daniel *  10/branches/Wikidata/phase3/includes/ (ContentHandler.php EditPage.php): messing with wfMerge
[17:53:05] 	 for GSoC, should we choose a project in this list https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Summer_of_Code_2012#Project_ideas or should we propose one ? [18:41]  Hm. #mediawiki might be more active than here
[17:53:09] * AaronSchulz  chuckles at http://wikimedia.7.n6.nabble.com/New-Plugin-for-Extension-ConfirmEdit-RFC-td4633869.html
[17:53:42] 	 some little bug with c/c on webchat.freenode :/
[17:58:02] 	 Amgine: i'm trying to include the Extensions:Facebook extension on my mediawiki page.  specifically, im trying to include a comments field () in every new page that is created.  there is an extension NewArticleTemplate that makes this possible.  this latter extension creates a page and uses it as a template for new pages. this is the page that i'm editing, and in which im trying to add the  code... lastly,
[17:58:44] 	 ...href statement that needs to be the url of the new page being created.  does this make sense? 
[18:01:00] 	 Amgine: the fb x is here http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Facebook and NewPageTemplate here... http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:NewArticleTemplates
[18:02:06] 	 Wikiguy: Maybe. The new comments page title will be in what pattern?
[18:03:50] 	 New code comment: MaxSem; Too many extensions rely on global scope, your system is bound to fail.; 
[18:04:46] 	 Amgine: thank god.. what you mean by pattern?  this is an example page .. http://collectival.wikindoit.org/w/index.php?title=Documentation_Projects  you see the fb comments box.. 
[18:05:19] 	 Amgine:  and i you edit you see the code... sorry i dont understand what you mean by pattern..
[18:06:23] 	 03(mod) [Regression] IRC action text should never contain HTML for title - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34980  (10Krinkle)
[18:06:35] 	 New code comment: Awjrichards; Ha wow I probably normally would've OK'd this or just chatted with you about it in IRC but after cod; 
[18:08:05] 	 New code comment: Bawolff; Thanks for fixing this. \ The block notice the user sees for this is a little confusing. However its ; 
[18:09:43] 	 03nikerabbit *  10/branches/wmf/1.19wmf1/ (3 files in 3 dirs): 1.19wmf1 MFT r113910 r113782
[18:09:47] 	 bawolff: how to 
[18:09:54] 	 (for wikiguy)
[18:10:03] 	 lol, various other crap
[18:10:26] 	 03(mod) Remove Nested Transactions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27283  +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[18:10:28] 	 Do you mean the various other crap is between the extension tags?
[18:10:36] 	 {{stuff}} ?
[18:10:52] 	 Nope. inside the tag. 
[18:11:20] 	 umm, I'm not sure you can do that. What's is he trying to accomplish?
[18:11:27] 	 hi, after the upgrade to 1.18 from 1.16 all the pages with '&'  in the title show up in search, but then when you click on them are inaccessible. can't find the solution
[18:11:36] 	 http://collectival.wikindoit.org/w/index.php?title=Documentation_Projects&action=edit <- bottom of that page
[18:11:47] 	 Anarhist: Could be an issue with short urls
[18:12:04] 	 bawolff, hmm, but they did work
[18:12:15] 	 Amgine, oh he wants it inside an attribute
[18:12:24] 	 
[18:12:46] 	 
[18:13:18] 	 bawolff, you are right, it works with index.php?title=
[18:13:44] 	 Amgine: {{#tag:fb:comments||href=http://collectival.wikindoit.org/w/index.php?title={{PAGENAMEE}}|num_posts=10|width=470}}
[18:13:57] 	 Oh. 
[18:14:06] 	 Wikiguy: ^
[18:14:25] 	 note, in url - using {{PAGENAMEE}} instead of {{PAGENAME}} is important
[18:14:53] 	 not FULLPAGENAME?
[18:16:39] 	 Amgine: thanks, that is awesome. did you update my wiki page too?! amazing...
[18:16:47] 	 yep
[18:17:07] 	 Amgine: oh you're right {{FULLPAGENAMEE}} is what you really want (2 E's )
[18:17:12] 	 also, you do not have {{delete}}
[18:17:19] 	 Thanks bawolff.
[18:17:26] 	 sweet, thanks a lot... 
[18:17:34] 	 bawolff: thanks a lot !
[18:17:39] 	 03maxsem *  10/trunk/extensions/MobileFrontend/ (MobileFrontend.php api/ApiQueryExtracts.php):
[18:17:39] 	 Follow-up r114129:
[18:17:39] 	 * Fixed leftoffs from excerpts --> extracts rename
[18:17:39] 	 * ...including broken OpenSearchXml hook handler
[18:17:40] 	 * Split exlength to exchars and exsentences for better control over stuff being returned
[18:17:40] 	 03(NEW) Enable WebFonts for fr.wikisource.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35328 normal; Wikimedia: Extension setup; (thomaspt)
[18:17:47] 	 wikiguy: glad to help
[18:18:32] 	  MW can do webfonts? 
[18:18:44] 	 hey again
[18:18:46] 	 Amgine: its an extensio
[18:18:50] 	 *extension
[18:19:08] 	 Part of WMF's grand plan to make non-en wikis not suck :)
[18:19:10] 	 Amgine: it shows like this in edit now, is that normal:  
[18:19:25] 	 Amgine: with the #tag and eveyrthing i mean?
[18:19:43] 	 wikiguy: oh that doesn't look quite right...
[18:20:12] 	 
[18:20:45] * bawolff  fixed it
[18:21:02] 	 hey guys... so... I had created a Template "A". Then had created the Template "A/B". Why the wiki engine is asking me to create the Template "B" (not rooted at A)?
[18:21:03] 	  
[18:21:23] 	 03(mod) Remove Nested Transactions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27283  +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[18:21:57] 	 bawolff: muchos gracias!
[18:22:16] 	 anybody knows ↑
[18:22:21] 	 ?
[18:22:22] 	 mabafu: not sure I understand your question
[18:22:32] 	 1 min
[18:22:37] 	 How do you mean it asks you to create a template
[18:22:47] 	 well...
[18:23:19] 	 I had put the "call" without creating the template... let's say {{A/B|p1|p2}}
[18:23:42] 	 them it showed me the reddy "Template A/B", right?
[18:23:49] 	 *then
[18:24:05] 	 New code comment: Krinkle; I agree with MaxSem. MediaWiki expects the extension to be included in the global scope, not in a li; 
[18:24:09] 	 03(mod) zombie mailing list - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35324  +comment (10Lydia Pintscher)
[18:24:24] 	 ok, added [B] in .htaccess it works
[18:24:47] 	 then I'd created the Template "A/B", but it's now asking me to create the Template "B" (reddy)
[18:25:33] 	 any idea of what I'm doing wrong? ((noob here))
[18:26:13] 	 mabafu: try http;//yourdomain.tld/wiki/index.php?title=Template:A/B&action=edit
[18:26:37] 	 yup... I'd alread did it... the A/B is created.
[18:26:52] 	 mabafu: I'm not sure how that would happen. Do you have a link you could show me?
[18:27:00] 	 ok
[18:28:49] 	 03aaron *  10/trunk/phase3/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Reverted r113688, r113691 per CR and filed #61440 upstream.
[18:29:23] 	 mabafu: its because the {{Domain_Rights}} template you call after the {{Domain_Rights/hunting}} includes the {{hunting}} template
[18:29:56] 	 yup... but the DR/hunting is created...
[18:30:02] 	 04(REOPENED) Test that clicktracking is collecting the data we need - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32992  +comment (10Yoni Shostak)
[18:31:04] 	 I don't undesrtand why I need to create 2 templates ... the idea of hierachize it was exactly to put it under my User:name
[18:31:31] 	 say... under the parent Template
[18:32:13] 	 mabafu: The template {{Domain_Rights}} contains {{hunting}} inside it
[18:32:51] 	 ahhhhhh....  I got it!
[18:32:53] 	 tks
[18:32:55] 	 :D
[18:36:21] 	 03(mod) 1.19 post-deployment actions (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31211  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[18:38:26] 	 03(mod) error from UW seen in commons and local install: "Unknown error:unknown" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35262  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[18:39:02] 	 03(mod) My LCStore_Accel fails with APC - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35267  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[18:39:13] 	 14(DUP) Make $wgPasswordSenderName localizable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33601  +comment (10Siebrand)
[18:39:25] 	 03(mod) [regression] text and icons overlap in the settings menu in RTL locale - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35270  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[18:39:58] 	 is there documentation anywhere about HTMLForm field descriptors? i cam having a hard time finding anything useful
[18:40:04] 	 !b 35262 hexmode I think Reedy may have fixed that
[18:40:04] 	 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35262
[18:40:05] 	 s/cam/am
[18:40:20] 	 hexmode: but I don't know what the fix was
[18:40:27] 	 03jeroendedauw *  10/trunk/extensions/EducationProgram/ (6 files in 3 dirs): work on caching of special:institutions
[18:40:58] 	 03jeroendedauw *  10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialCachedPage.php: some refactoring to allow for nicer usage in deriving classes
[18:41:09] 	 brion: have you tried MathJax in Opera with high DPI?
[18:41:12] 	 lol Unknown error: unknown. - yay for descriptive error messages
[18:41:25] 	 Amgine: working brilliantly, thanks again.
[18:41:26] 	 AaronSchulz: not in opera yet, but it looks GREAT in safari
[18:41:31] 	 03rsterbin *  10/trunk/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Name the no-link option X rather than -, and keep track of the link ID optionally added to the page (floatingLinkId)
[18:41:36] 	 not sure mathjax works in opera mini
[18:41:47] 	 bawolff: working brilliantly, thanks again.
[18:41:51] 	 brion: ok, well then save opera for last to stave off the disappointment
[18:42:00] 	 nice in FF though
[18:42:04] 	 hehe
[18:42:19] * AaronSchulz  is tempted to give brion a screenshot
[18:44:41] 	 03(mod) Account creation messages inconsistent - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35272  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[18:45:07] 	 I have a quick question, is there a way to block people from contributing until they get a contribution flag? I want to allow people to create accounts if they really want to, but not to edit/use the talk page/etc until I give them permission.
[18:45:59] 	 03wikinaut *  10/trunk/extensions/AJAXPoll/ (AJAXPoll.php AJAXPoll_body.php): removed the redundant code for handling tracking categories. By using '-' for the message text ajaxpoll-tracking-category , this can be disabled easily.
[18:46:20] 	 heh, opera renders everything to 1x. at least it works. ;)
[18:46:37] 	 lots of ipad apps have this problem still too, things look grainy
[18:46:56] 	 kindle just got an update to fix text rendering, but their image assets are still low-res on ipad 3
[18:47:12] 	 03(mod) Unresponsive script when uploading many files at once - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35279  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[18:48:45] 	 03(mod) [SRF] Not all selected Articles showing in format=calendar, timeline or eventline - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35318  +comment (10Jeroen De Dauw)
[18:49:10] 	 brion_: note that I was taking about PC opera
[18:49:19] * AaronSchulz  hungers
[18:49:29] 	 sorressean: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User_rights
[18:49:51] 	 AaronSchulz: so 120dpi mode or bumped up even higher?
[18:50:03] 	 sorressean: Contains everything you need; you want to remove the suitable permissions from the normal groups and create a new one to give them back
[18:50:40] 	 03awjrichards *  10/branches/awjrichards/ (. extensions/ extensions/MobileFrontend/): Creating a branch for myself for experimental dev pending git migration
[18:52:14] 	 Coren:  sweet, thanks.
[18:52:42] 	 sorressean: how is your MediaWiki administration experience going overall?
[18:57:00] 	 03wikinaut *  10/trunk/extensions/RSS/ (RSS.php RSSParser.php): removed the redundant code for handling tracking categories. By using '-' for the message text rss-tracking-category , this can be disabled easily.
[18:57:33] 	 03awjrichards *  10/branches/awjrichards/extensions/MobileFrontend/: Removing empty created dir
[19:01:22] 	 03(mod) My user defined javascript does not more work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35154  +comment (10Arno Lagrange)
[19:02:27] 	 03(NEW) UID ranges for LDAP and system users overlap - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35329 normal; Wikimedia Labs: Setup; (jgreen)
[19:02:47] 	 03wikinaut *  10/trunk/extensions/WikiArticleFeeds/ (WikiArticleFeeds.php WikiArticleFeeds_body.php): removed the redundant code for handling tracking categories. By using '-' for the message text wikiarticlefeeds-tracking-category , this can be disabled easily.
[19:04:39] 	 sumanah: fyi - I'm at a confab in tx tmrw - so on flights and in mtgs all day
[19:05:42] 	 03wikinaut *  10/trunk/extensions/EtherpadLite/ (EtherpadLite.php EtherpadLite_body.php): removed the redundant code for handling tracking categories. By using '-' for the message text etherpadlite-tracking-category , this can be disabled easily.
[19:06:10] 	 hi varnent - thanks for the heads-up.
[19:07:10] 	 np - I'm off to fiddle with the wikimania wiki now..  :)
[19:08:24] 	 bawolff: as you certainly saw, I "updated" all my four extensions and removed unnecessary code for tracking categories. thanks for your hint about possibility to put "-" into tracking-category message texts. I forgot about that...
[19:08:36] 	 :)
[19:09:08] 	 ... and updated the documentation :-)
[19:11:07] 	 03(NEW) can't delete instance i-000001ae / pediapress-ocg3 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35330 normal; Wikimedia Labs: Setup; (jgreen)
[19:19:36] 	 Well, I reckon mah extension is done.  'xcept for that installation contraption.
[19:20:07] 	 Now I need to figure out how to deploy a database table and some CSS
[19:20:43] 	 "Go in your db and add that table" just doesn't cut it for the installation instructions.  :-)
[19:21:42] 	 Do I need to add a "user" group to allow for account creation? I'm not really sure how to set that up.
[19:22:08] 	 That group always exists by default, it's the group every registered user belongs to.
[19:22:26] 	 There's also '*' which means "everyone, including anons"
[19:22:49] 	 ok. so how do I enable them to register?
[19:23:17] 	 What you want to do is remove all the edit rights /from/ user and *, and create a new group to which you give them...
[19:23:37] * sorressean  nods.
[19:23:38] 	 (make sure '*' has 'createuser' if you want people to register themselves)
[19:23:58] 	 Then you use Special:Userrights to give that new group to the people you approve.
[19:23:59] 	 That makes sense. I just wasn't sure how to enable registration. I don't see a register link on the main page.
[19:24:11] 	 03jeroendedauw *  10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialCachedPage.php: update docs
[19:24:56] 	 Creating new accounts requires the 'createuser' right, which you can give to '*' (i.e.: everyone even anons)
[19:25:21] 	 Coren: for the db table question, see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Hooks/LoadExtensionSchemaUpdates
[19:25:28] 	 Also, is there a way to limit a group to editing a single page? Basically how this works is you create an account, request write access and I give it but you work on a single arti
[19:26:05] 	 Coren:  awesome. so enabling createuser for * will make a register link on the main page?
[19:27:00] 	 sorressean: It's going to turn on a 'create an account' from the /login/ page; you might want to add a ling to your main page to that for user-friendliness
[19:27:20] 	 Coren:  sweet, thanks.
[19:27:36] 	 sorressean: (make the link to Special:UserLogin&type=signup if you want to go directly to creation)
[19:28:01] 	 bawolff: Thanks
[19:29:32] 	 03(FIXED) can't delete instance i-000001ae / pediapress-ocg3 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35330  +comment (10Ryan Lane)
[19:31:39] 	 03(mod) Test that clicktracking is collecting the data we need - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32992  +comment (10Dario Taraborelli)
[19:37:21] 	 03(mod) Timeline tag generates PNG images rather than SVG - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35320  +comment (10Justin Anthony Knapp)
[19:38:31] 	 Hmmm.  Not clear how to make it work right with both pg and mysql
[19:41:14] 	 03(mod) Timeline tag generates PNG images rather than SVG - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35320  +comment (10Bawolff)
[19:41:57] 	 varnent, or indeed anyone else ( :) ): Do you know if the Google Melange GSoC application submission page allow formatting? Images? Video?
[19:42:00] 	 brion: hmm, like 149 ;)
[19:42:41] 	 Jarry1250: I'm actually not sure - but I suspect you can or at the very least could link to the images/videos hosted elsewhere
[19:42:52] 	 Jarry1250: I know the student applications can have random html (or at least some subset)
[19:43:08] 	 Or at least they could 2 years ago (there was an edit as raw html button somewhere)
[19:43:15] 	 Ah, sounds neat.
[19:43:25] 	 yeah - it sounds to me like they're using their Google Sites tools
[19:43:29] * bawolff  would note Google Melange is a horrible piece of software
[19:43:54] 	 or at least that was the impression i got last time i had to use it (2 years ago)
[19:44:29] 	 03(mod) Article Feedback v5 - Develop Feedback link Option A (vs. Option E or no link) - Metrics test 2 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34406  +comment (10Dario Taraborelli)
[19:44:38] 	 bawolff: it errors out on me - so I'm not sure it's improved much..or enough..
[19:45:20] 	 Where do I ask for my extension to be added to git-list?
[19:45:53] 	 vvv: Oh, I'm interested in that too, do ping me if you find out.
[19:46:18] 	 Well, we all should poke ^demon
[19:46:24] 	 But he's not online
[19:46:24] 	 03(mod) [Regression] File deletions leave stuff behind - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35047  +comment (10Andreas F. Borchert)
[19:46:24] 	 Coren: try looking at how an existing extension does it (For example the onLoadExtensionSchemaUpdates function in AbuseFilter )
[19:46:55] 	 badon: Yeah, that's what I was doing now.  If all else fails, RTS.  :-)
[19:47:01] 	 vvv: I thought there was something on the mailing list about other extensions generally moving to git soon after phase3 did, but I could be mistaken
[19:47:13] 	 Coren: The source never lies :P
[19:47:40] 	 badon: No, but mw sources tries hard to confuse and beffudle.  :-)
[19:51:36] 	 mw source: Tells the truth, nothing but the truth, and OH MY GOD WHY WON'T IT SHUT UP ALREADY!?!
[19:51:37] 	 brion: I don't like microscopic font on 1080p
[19:51:53] 	 so I cranked up the DPI...hmm, I should try Chrome
[19:52:05] 	 yeah at least on win8 the 150% scale seems.... inconsistent
[19:52:13] 	 opera just renders at 100% and scales up, looks awful
[19:52:16] 	 yeah, stay below 150
[19:52:24] 	 150dpi, not %
[19:52:26] 	 firefox renders its stuff ok but the text starts small
[19:52:52] 	 win8 is supposed to have zoom specs for 140% and 180% on tablets
[19:52:55] 	 otherwise, files and stuff will be doubled in size, ugly and interpolated, (at least in older FFs)
[19:52:55] 	 140% for 180p
[19:53:02] 	 *1080p
[19:53:13] 	 180% for some even higher res
[19:53:42] 	 i'm very much looking forward to 200% zoom on future macbooks; it works well on the iphone and ipad
[19:53:57] 	 worst case is you get blockiness or bluriness but it's even
[19:53:59] 	 chrome looks great
[19:54:26] 	 AaronSchulz: Chrome is Win made Browser.
[19:56:59] 	 chrome's all blurry on win8 at 150%
[19:57:09] 	 Yeah, so I know you guys are all set on git and all, but can I weasle svn commit at least long enough to push my extension somewhere accessible?  I promise I'll be nice and move to git with the cool kids later.  :-)
[19:58:03] 	 interesting how much faster MathJax loads in Chrome than FF
[19:58:21] 	 hmm
[19:58:30] 	 wild AaronSchulz spotted
[19:58:45] * ToAruShiroiNeko  tosses a wiki ball
[19:58:59] 	 brion: Sabotage, I say!  Conspiracy from the Redmond overlords!  Chrome is perfect, it just suffers the failiures of its environment.  :-)
[19:59:21] 	 hehe
[19:59:31] 	 brion, you running windows 8?
[20:00:04] 	 ToAruShiroiNeko, i've got it on a macbookpro and on a little touchscreen convertible laptop for fun
[20:00:51] 	 03jeroendedauw *  10/trunk/extensions/EducationProgram/EducationProgram.settings.php: flags++
[20:00:51] * AaronSchulz  pictures convertible cars in his mind
[20:01:09] 	 https://www.dell.com/us/p/inspiron-duo/pd
[20:01:28] 	 it's too bulky for a real tablet but it's ok for testing stuff on
[20:01:44] 	 bad news is: shitty atom processor and shittier integrated gfx. slow as crap
[20:01:45] 	 brion so you installed windows 8 on an apple computer?
[20:01:50] 	 yep :)
[20:02:33] 	 next thing you will tell me you installed apple os on a pc
[20:02:33] 	 not worth the trouble ;)
[20:02:33] 	 ah
[20:02:36] 	 I have an N9 and wonder if I should install WIndoes 8 on it
[20:02:51] 	 :P
[20:02:53] 	 03(FIXED) Need application icon for Retina iPad (144x144px) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35163  summary; +comment (10Brion Vibber)
[20:03:06] 	 woha
[20:03:07] 	 that might be more effort ;)
[20:03:11] 	 mid conversation bug fix
[20:03:25] 	 don't think they've pushed out any of the arm versions to play with yet
[20:03:35] 	 probably not
[20:04:06] 	 they are not ARMed
[20:04:08] 	 so how is you brion
[20:04:26] 	 its been ages we talked where I did not pester you with a bug request :p
[20:04:55] 	 :D
[20:04:57] 	 03catrope *  10/trunk/extensions/ArticleFeedback/modules/jquery.articleFeedback/jquery.articleFeedback.js: Fix typo in r113968 that broke the weighting code so no CTA ever appeared
[20:05:18] 	 03jeroendedauw *  10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialCachedPage.php: fix for r114164
[20:06:19] 	 03catrope *  10/branches/wmf/1.19wmf1/extensions/ArticleFeedback/modules/jquery.articleFeedback/jquery.articleFeedback.js: 1.19wmf1: MFT r114174
[20:06:22] 	 03(mod) Pressing Enter multiple times at Special:MovePage creates multiple log entries - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35287  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[20:07:19] 	 03(mod) the message articlefeedbackv5-disable-flyover-help-location is poorly placed and not needed anyway - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35288   +i18n (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[20:08:53] 	 03(mod) DPL2 Displays UNIQ .. QINU when including a page using the Poem extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35291  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[20:08:57] 	 03(mod) UNIQ issues (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/26213  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[20:12:20] 	 Is there a way I can create a user from my admin account? I disabled createaccount for *, so I need to be able to create users.
[20:12:20] 	 sorressean: Just give 'createaccount' to another group; ideally one you are a member of.  :-)
[20:12:36] 	 Coren:  I can. but when I go to special:login, it logs me out.
[20:12:55] 	 It's not supposed to.
[20:13:32] 	 It will still offer you a login, but if you have the createuser right you'll also get a link to the account creation page.
[20:16:36] 	 weird. thanks.
[20:16:45] 	 03(mod) Duplication of defaults in wgAddGroups/wgRemoveGroups - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35283  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[20:17:13] 	 03(mod) provide a way to specify what text/statement is supported by a  block. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/18231  +comment (10denisoliver)
[20:18:51] 	 Gah!  I can't find it anywhere!  Surely I'm not supposed to patch Vector to add the CSS for my extension?
[20:19:04] 	 03jdlrobson *  10/trunk/extensions/MobileFrontend/javascripts/references.js:
[20:19:04] 	 unbind any existing click events on a references link
[20:19:04] 	 this prevents things like toggle.js interfering with the
[20:19:04] 	 behaviour
[20:19:16] 	 Coren: to add CSS you have to use the resource loader
[20:20:25] 	 o_O  That's...  gah!  My Kindom for a nice topic index!  :-)  Thanks, bawolff.
[20:20:33] * Coren  didn't even know about ResourceLoader
[20:20:46] 	 Its relatively new (introduced in 1.17)
[20:21:15] 	 before the RL there was a different way involving either a method of OutputPage or Parser depending on the type of extension you were making
[20:21:59] * bawolff  wants to make nicer docs one day, but alas probably never will
[20:22:03] 	 Well, during testing, I just stuff things in Common.css, but that's a workaround.  :-)
[20:22:36] 	 03(mod) apostrophe in url - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35293  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[20:24:20] 	 03(mod) Fatal PHP Error in Translate/tag/RenderJob.php on line 48 on marking content as translatable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35297  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[20:24:28] 	 03(mod) apostrophe in url - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35293  +comment (10Niklas Laxström)
[20:24:44] 	 bawolff: So, I register a style in wgResourceModules, add it to $wgOut as needed.  Still overridable by Common/Skin css?
[20:25:06] 	 03(mod) Successful logins are throttled - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35298  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[20:25:57] 	 03daniel *  10/branches/Wikidata/phase3/includes/ (6 files in 2 dirs): getNativeData()
[20:25:59] 	 Coren: Yes, Common.css and Skinname.css load after extension styles
[20:26:40] 	 You would probably be registering the modules from some hook that passes you an OutputPage object (instead of using the $wgOut global), but basically yep
[20:26:51] 	 03(WONTFIX) Add some basic information to the start page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35299  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[20:27:59] 	 03(mod) Add some basic information to the start page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35299  +comment (10Bawolff)
[20:28:20] 	 bawolff: Well, one of the css I'd need would be to format a special page, so wgOut seems natural for that one.
[20:28:37] 	 In that case $wgOut is fine
[20:28:53] 	 noooo...
[20:28:58] 	 $this->getOutput()
[20:29:18] 	 Well yes, all the cool kids use $this->getOutput()
[20:29:38] 	 Dantman: In general or just for the loader?
[20:29:47] 	 Just in the special page
[20:29:48] 	 Ah.  The doc lies!
[20:30:02] 	 Honestly there's more lies in those docs then there are truths
[20:30:04] 	 Coren: $wg{User,Request,Out,Lang} are all practically deprecated
[20:30:17] 	 not to mention the whole $this->getOutput() thing is still very new
[20:30:28] 	 How new?  1.17 new?
[20:30:32] 	 1.18 new
[20:30:32] 	 1.18
[20:30:46] 	 bawolff: ;) Only 2.5 months and the only version not supporting RequestContext becomes EOL
[20:30:51] 	 and i don't think core was fully converted until 1.19
[20:31:17] 	 We're still going to have to keep back-compat forever with all those extensions using those globals
[20:32:10] 	 03(mod) Add purge_specials right - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35321  +comment (10Bawolff)
[20:32:14] 	 I'm not sure I want to code away 1.17 support.  :-)
[20:32:20] 	 At least not yet.
[20:32:25] 	 Coren: feature tests are your friend
[20:32:32] 	 03(mod) Article feedback v5 - Feedback button 'X' close box - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34403  +comment (10Fabrice Florin)
[20:32:34] 	 03(mod) Replace $wgPasswordSenderName with a system message defaulting to "{{SITENAME}} mail" to clarify and allow translation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32770   +easy; summary; +comment (10Nemo_bis)
[20:32:50] 	 $wgOut will still work in the foreseeable future (As much as Dantman will give you the evil eye for using it)
[20:33:05] 	 bah... eventually those $wg vars will disappear from every extension in our code repos... ;) at which point we can start sending out deprecation warnings every time you use them and get rid of them soon after
[20:33:08] 	 One last Q:  I have a parser tag that emits spans with css classes; when is the right time to load the resource then?
[20:33:27] 	 ParserOutput has a method to add modules
[20:33:51] 	 You'll want to use that since parsing is disconnected from context
[20:34:31] 	 Something like $parser->getOutput()->addModuleStyles( ... );
[20:34:32] 	 03daniel *  10/branches/Wikidata/phase3/includes/ (4 files in 2 dirs): avoid getNativeData()
[20:35:17] * bawolff  was going to link to http://svn.wikimedia.org/doc/classParserOutput.html#aa35879021e712cccca77a2c5ae18f6a1 but those docs are actually crap for that method
[20:35:23] 	 Presumably, this is lightweight thanks to caching and I can just add the module everytime I see my tag?
[20:36:06] 	 yes
[20:36:46] 	 Wow.  That... actually makes sense.  Are you sure you aren't talking about some other code?  :-P
[20:37:34] 	 Coren: Anything involving caching works very well in MediaWiki. Its part of the "Wikipedia must work" development philosiphy mediawiki has
[20:38:12] 	 Granted, that's one hell of a stress test case.  :-)
[20:39:40] 	 hmm, off to super
[20:40:27] 	 03(NEW) API hookaborted error should be clearer (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35331 normal; MediaWiki: API; (mah)
[20:41:52] 	 03(mod) API hookaborted error should be clearer (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35331  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[20:41:53] 	 03(mod) Extension can't pass error information back to user in API call (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/14261  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[20:41:57] 	 03(mod) Hideuser: Error when trying to block hidden user without hideuser right - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/20524  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[20:41:58] 	 03(mod) Aborting a block using BlockIp hook shows  on the block form - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22922  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[20:41:59] 	 03(mod) API returns invalid JSON despite HTTP status 200 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35300  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[20:43:32] 	 14(DUP) API hookaborted error should be clearer (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35331  +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[20:43:33] 	 03(mod) Extension can't pass error information back to user in API call (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/14261  +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[20:47:07] 	 03(mod) Extension can't pass error information back to user in API call (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/14261  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[20:47:09] 	 03(mod) Hideuser: Error when trying to block hidden user without hideuser right - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/20524  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[20:47:10] 	 03(mod) API returns invalid JSON despite HTTP status 200 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35300  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[20:50:03] 	 03(mod) API returns invalid JSON despite HTTP status 200 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35300  +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[20:50:04] 	 03(mod) API hookaborted error should be clearer (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35331  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[20:51:38] 	 03jeroendedauw *  10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialCachedPage.php: make more generic: do not assume we want to add html to the output. Also get rid of action=purge from key args
[20:51:57] 	 03jeroendedauw *  10/trunk/extensions/EducationProgram/specials/ (SpecialEPPage.php SpecialInstitutions.php SpecialStudent.php): work on caching of special:student
[20:53:01] 	 03ialex *  10/trunk/phase3/includes/Setup.php: Make the first line of debug log more consitent between CLI and web call by putting the method and the URL directly on the first line
[20:55:48] 	 03raymond *  10/trunk/translatewiki/MediaWiki/mediawiki-defines.txt: r114156: Update keys. 1 to ignore, 1 optional
[21:00:46] 	 Boo!  It no worky.  Worse, it fails quietly.
[21:04:14] 	 03jdlrobson *  10/trunk/extensions/MobileFrontend/javascripts/ (beta_opensearch.min.js references.min.js toggle.min.js):
[21:04:14] 	 commit latest versions of minified
[21:04:14] 	 in preparation for deployment
[21:05:10] 	 14(DUP) apostrophe in url - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35293  +comment (10Dan Collins)
[21:05:14] 	 03(mod) Redirect to canonicalize URLs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27935  +comment (10Dan Collins)
[21:06:12] 	 MW 1.18:  When I updated to 1.18 from 1.17x I had to do a bunch of reinstalls of extensions, etc.  Will I have to do this again for 1.18.1?  Specifically, if the extensions work in 1.18 will they work in 1.18.1?  Thanx
[21:06:37] 	 /join ###mediawiki###
[21:06:45] 	 *meant to actualy join chan
[21:09:15] 	 03(mod) Article Feedback Page v5 - Oversighter Central Activity Log Restriction - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35254  +comment (10Fabrice Florin)
[21:09:40] 	 03daniel *  10/branches/Wikidata/phase3/includes/ (Content.php Revision.php WikiPage.php): isCountable()
[21:16:21] 	 03jeroendedauw *  10/trunk/extensions/EducationProgram/ (6 files in 4 dirs): work on special:student
[21:18:33] 	 im trying to put a facebook plugin in the sidebar using the Extensions:Facebook ... but as I put the  tag there, it doesnt show up in sidebar. need help! thanks
[21:20:14] 	 03(mod) Replace $wgPasswordSenderName with a system message defaulting to "{{SITENAME}} mail" to clarify and allow translation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32770  +comment (10Siebrand)
[21:21:26] 	 03rsterbin *  10/trunk/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5/modules/jquery.articleFeedbackv5/jquery.articleFeedbackv5.js: Bug fix: non-url click tracking events were not getting the rev id
[21:21:54] 	 03raymond *  10/trunk/ (72 files in 45 dirs): Localisation updates for core and extension messages from translatewiki.net
[21:22:38] 	 03(WONTFIX) Make git-review more easy to install on Windows - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35145  +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara)
[21:22:55] 	 03rsterbin *  10/trunk/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5/modules/jquery.articleFeedbackv5/jquery.articleFeedbackv5.js: Updated clicktracking events to Phase 2 names
[21:24:21] 	 anyone? facebook extension in sidebar?
[21:24:50] 	 03jdlrobson *  10/trunk/extensions/MobileFrontend/stylesheets/common.css:
[21:24:51] 	 alter right property for results for rtl
[21:24:51] 	 make same as ltr flipped
[21:26:20] 	 New code comment: Rsterbin; Also dropped the extra prefs link from the flyover -- should have mentioned that in the commit messa; 
[21:27:31] 	 03(mod) Test that clicktracking is collecting the data we need - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32992  +comment (10Reha Sterbin)
[21:27:40] 	 03(mod) Set up gitweb redirects so that Gerrit will work as repo browser - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34140  +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara)
[21:27:59] 	 03(mod) Article Feedback v5 - Develop Feedback link Option A (vs. Option E or no link) - Metrics test 2 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34406  +comment (10Reha Sterbin)
[21:28:03] 	 is it possible to put extensions in the sidebar?  im having no luck with Mediawiki:Sidebar .... does anyone know?
[21:28:24] 	 03(mod) Article feedback v5 - Feedback button 'X' close box - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34403  +comment (10Reha Sterbin)
[21:32:20] 	 Is there a more appropriate IRC I should ask my ? in or somewhere I can go read up on this as Google had no results thanx
[21:33:12] 	 OffGridOps: this is the right channel
[21:33:36] 	 alright thanx i'll hang out then! ;)
[21:33:52] 	 For 1.18 -> 1.18.1 you shouldn't find anything broken extension wise
[21:34:12] 	 There may be some extra bug fixes backported etc, but you shouldn't need them
[21:34:31] 	 wikibugs: Did you add the extension to your LocalSettings.php?
[21:34:51] * Reedy  wonders if Coren is going mad
[21:34:54] 	 Reedy: Thanx!
[21:35:15] 	 Reedy: No, tab-completion led me astray.  :-)
[21:35:29] 	 That was meant for wikiguy
[21:36:12] 	 Gah!  The addModule().  They do nothing!
[21:36:17] 	 03(mod) PhoneGap-based iOS app: hash links don't scroll (including references) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34002  (10Yuvi Panda)
[21:36:42] 	 Secure.wikimedia.org is deprecated right?
[21:36:48] 	 yup
[21:36:49] 	 very much so
[21:37:14] 	 03awjrichards *  10/trunk/extensions/MobileFrontend/templates/SearchTemplate.php: htmlspecialchars -> Xml::escapeJsString
[21:37:31] 	 03(mod) PhoneGap-based iOS app: hash links don't scroll (including references) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34002  +comment (10Yuvi Panda)
[21:37:35] 	 03(mod) Clicking on citation links doesn't take you to the reference unless the reference section has been previously expanded - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33913  +comment (10Yuvi Panda)
[21:38:40] 	 is it possible to put extensions in the sidebar? i can't seem to get the Extensions:Facebook to work in Mediawiki:Sidebar.  Any ideas? 
[21:39:17] 	 wikiguy: You probably will have to tweak the skin; Mediawiki:sidebar is black magic
[21:39:47] 	 Reedy, any idea when it'll be removed fully?
[21:40:03] 	 03(FIXED) "Back" button is not high-resolution; shows blocky on retina display - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35164  +comment (10Brion Vibber)
[21:40:08] 	 Coren: thanks. where do i do that?
[21:40:20] 	 Krenair: not really. It's going to be after we have redirects to the new site from old secure
[21:40:39] 	 wikiguy:  I tried tweaking a lot of stuff for the sidebar and found a ton of threads on google back in the day.  I ended up simply creating templates and hammering them out for extensions on the RT side of my site.
[21:40:41] 	 03reedy *  10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 3 dirs): More occurrence typos
[21:41:58] 	 03awjrichards *  10/trunk/extensions/MobileFrontend/templates/ApplicationTemplate.php: Bumping css/js version #s
[21:42:03] 	 03emsmith *  10/trunk/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5/ (ArticleFeedbackv5.php api/ApiArticleFeedbackv5Utils.php): bug 35254 - oversight items (request and unrequest oversight, decline oversight, oversight and unoversight) now go directly to the suppressionlog instead of into the afv5 activity log
[21:42:09] 	 OffGridOps: thanks.. my hammer is very blunt, but thanks, i'll google some more
[21:42:52] 	 wikiguy: I'm no skin expert, really, but I'm guessing you can find what you need there: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Customization:Explaining_skins#Major_style_blocks_by_name
[21:43:20] 	 Coren: thanks
[21:45:35] 	 03(FIXED) Article Feedback Page v5 - Oversighter Central Activity Log Restriction - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35254  +comment (10Elizabeth M Smith)
[21:48:21] 	 Still no luck doing an addModules() from a parser hook (works in the special page, though)
[21:48:41] 	 Coren: Are you calling OutputPage functions from a parser hook?
[21:48:50] 	 You should call ParserOutput functions instead
[21:48:59] 	 $parser->getOutput()->addModules( .. )
[21:49:19] 	 wikiguy: We have a hook for adding blocks to the sidebar
[21:49:20] 	 03jeroendedauw *  10/trunk/extensions/EducationProgram/ (5 files in 3 dirs): more work on caching of special:institutions and special:courses
[21:49:21] 	 RoanKattouw: That's what I tried, but it fails silently.
[21:49:30] 	 Coren: Which version of MW are you using?
[21:49:34] 	 1.17
[21:49:37] 	 Hmm
[21:49:39] 	 This should just work
[21:49:56] 	 Dantman: how do i use it?
[21:49:59] 	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Hooks/SkinBuildSidebar
[21:49:59] 	 After you changed the code to use ParserOutput, did you make a null edit to the wiki page that uses your parser hook?
[21:50:37] 	 wikiguy: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Hooks/SkinBuildSidebar
[21:50:54] 	 Dantman: thanks!
[21:51:09] 	 RoanKattouw: No; didn't think of the cache!  Hah.  Now at least it fails noisily!
[21:51:36] 	 It's possible that ParserOptions::addModules() didn't exist in the 1.17 tarball release
[21:51:43] 	 I remember an oversight like that occurrnig
[21:52:01] 	 Dantman: so i can hook this in LocalSettings.php?
[21:52:31] 	 I checkout the branch, so no.  But it just worked.  Caching woes.  :-)
[21:52:40] 	 Yeays!
[21:52:57] 	 Mah extunshion, it is com-pu-lete.
[21:53:12] 	 Yay
[21:53:53] 	 Hm.  I suppose now I should install git.
[21:54:38] 	 03(mod) Add some basic information to the start page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35299  +comment (10prolineserver)
[21:54:50] 	 wikiguy: Sure
[21:55:41] 	 So: Lesson taken from my first foray into extensions: the important stuff isn't documented.  The /really/ important stuff is, but the doc lies.  :-)
[21:56:49] 	 Although the Resource Loader is a refreshing counterexample.  It's made of clean -- it shows that the architecture has imporved lately.
[21:57:47] 	 ;) That happends sometimes when you rewrite things
[21:58:36] 	 You want to pummel everyone into using the better api so you write documentation ;)
[21:58:53] 	 You don't happen to have a link to a decent git primer handy, do you?  I've spent the last several years pretending it didn't exist.
[21:59:17] 	 03jeroendedauw *  10/trunk/extensions/EducationProgram/ (3 files in 2 dirs): fix up a bunch of messages
[21:59:25] 	 By the time I'm finished my skin rewrite I'll probably have some pretty good docs for the new system.
[21:59:56] * Dantman  doesn't remember where he learned git from
[22:00:10] 	 s'ok.  Google is my friend.
[22:00:42] 	 hmmm...
[22:00:50] 	 03awjrichards *  10/branches/wmf/1.19wmf1/extensions/MobileFrontend/: Removing MobileFrontend in prep for svn cp from turnk
[22:00:54] 	 03awjrichards *  10/branches/wmf/1.19wmf1/extensions/MobileFrontend/: Copy MobileFrontend from trunk at r113447
[22:01:18] 	 Actually, it's possible I might have read a few articles... but after that I think most of what I learned was from `man git` and `git help`
[22:01:52] 	 http://git.or.cz/course/svn.html
[22:01:54] 	 03(mod) Enable WebFonts for fr.wikisource.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35328  normal->15enhancement;  +i18n +shell (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[22:03:34] 	 $ sudo aptitude install git # *sigh*
[22:03:45] 	 03(mod) File deletion slowness - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35326  +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[22:04:15] 	 Hm.  Surprisingly enough, the package for git isn't named 'git'.
[22:04:40] 	 Dantman: Dantman: should i put the function in the LocalSettings.php also?
[22:04:51] 	 Ah. git-core
[22:06:34] 	 03(NEW) Translating MediaWiki: pages seems not possible. Deletion does not happen either. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35332 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Translate; (maurelio)
[22:07:39] 	 hello 
[22:07:46] 	 i wanted to discuss this bug : https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=29704
[22:08:05] 	 can anybody help me in this 
[22:10:05] 	 Coren: Aye, that's due to an old package for something that had the abbreviation G.I.T.
[22:10:08] 	 03akshay *  10/trunk/extensions/SignupAPI/includes/verification.js: Fixing bug 31663
[22:10:14] 	 ...time to disconnect from the internet
[22:11:03] 	 03(mod) SignUpAPI Shows unwanted box when page loaded - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31663  +comment (10Akshay Agarwal)
[22:11:09] 	 drecodeam: yes? not sure I can help you
[22:11:49] 	 saper: i moved the bug out of the content and placed it above footer 
[22:11:59] 	 drecodeam: how?
[22:12:05] 	 do you have a patch?
[22:12:18] 	 drecodeam: I wouldn't suggest working on that
[22:13:07] 	 saper: i can generate the patch, but actually wanted to discuss something. I placed it above #footer div element as i checked all the themes use that div id
[22:13:14] 	 Reedy: why...
[22:13:21] 	 Reedy: why ..
[22:14:06] 	 Because it's features, and because that version isn't being actively worked on
[22:14:24] 	 Reedy: do you suggest working on v5 instead ?
[22:14:32] 	 Not really
[22:14:36] 	 Well, even more so, no
[22:15:43] 	 Reedy: it was actually listed in this page : https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Annoying_little_bugs which is there on GSoC page 
[22:16:06] 	 Oh
[22:16:15] 	 03awjrichards *  10/branches/wmf/1.19wmf1/extensions/MobileFrontend/ (6 files in 5 dirs): r113463, r113465, r113466, r113469, r113470, r113471, r113472
[22:16:31] 	 03(NEW) Integrate problem reports into core - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35333 normal; MediaWiki: Resource Loader; (mah)
[22:16:45] * Reedy  removes it
[22:17:31] 	 Reedy: sorry for asking again, but is the bug already being tackled in some other way, because then the bug should be closed 
[22:18:10] 	 03awjrichards *  10/branches/wmf/1.19wmf1/extensions/MobileFrontend/ (19 files in 6 dirs): MFT r113486, r113488, r113512, r113553, r113640, r113642, r113644, r113645, r113685, r113693, r113695, r113714, r113720, r113721, r113726, r113730, r113769, r113770, r113771, r113778
[22:18:49] 	 drecodeam: the patch seems simple...
[22:19:00] 	 drecodeam: do you have a patch?
[22:19:31] 	 saper: yes its simple, but doing that causes one more problem, is why i wanted to discuss it 
[22:20:57] 	 moving it out of the main content shifts it to the left, as it does not have any margin on the left. The left-margin differs in different skins because of the sidebars 
[22:22:36] 	 drecodeam: did you try including it in the footer?
[22:23:35] 	 03awjrichards *  10/branches/wmf/1.19wmf1/extensions/MobileFrontend/ (16 files in 7 dirs): MFT r113807, r113831, r113832, r113865, r113866, r113870, r113871, r113872, r113876, r113880, r113881, r113882, r113883, r113885, r113887, r113897, r113898, r113899, r113900, r113901
[22:23:35] 	 saper: no, but would that not be a problem too, because i think that it should not be in the footer
[22:24:01] 	 although it would not change any visual appearance..
[22:24:18] 	 03awjrichards *  10/branches/wmf/1.19wmf1/extensions/MobileFrontend/ (4 files in 3 dirs): MFT r113930
[22:25:05] 	 drecodeam: modern skins seem to have it before categories
[22:25:22] 	 03jeroendedauw *  10/trunk/extensions/EducationProgram/ (6 files in 2 dirs): caching of special:students, cas, oas
[22:25:26] 	 03awjrichards *  10/branches/wmf/1.19wmf1/extensions/MobileFrontend/ (10 files in 4 dirs): MFT r113942, r113971, r113987, r114005, r114025, r114100
[22:25:53] 	 yeah, in 'modern' skin footer is below the sidebar
[22:26:16] 	 saper: ya but that still makes them in the content
[22:26:44] 	 ya the footer is below the sidebar, just a moment i am checking other themes for the footer placement 
[22:26:50] 	 03awjrichards *  10/branches/wmf/1.19wmf1/extensions/MobileFrontend/ (5 files in 5 dirs): MFT r114134, r114136, r114144, r114145, r114150, r114152, r114157
[22:27:09] 	 modern skin has "mw-main" and "mw-contentwrapper"
[22:27:23] 	 mw_main and mw_contentwrapper
[22:28:24] 	 03awjrichards *  10/branches/wmf/1.19wmf1/extensions/MobileFrontend/ (8 files in 4 dirs): MFT r114177, r114184, r114190, r114191, r114193
[22:31:27] 	 saper: placing it in the footer would make it feel awkward, as even in modern and some other skins, the footer is full width of the page 
[22:31:55] 	 and it would force the review box to also float to the left 
[22:33:17] 	 saper: what i tried was to give it a margin left for default themes and in case the theme is not default, then give it a margin of 25-30% as it would place it in the center of the page 
[22:34:00] 	 but i think it needs a better solution 
[22:37:08] 	 03jeroendedauw *  10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialCachedPage.php: only init if not already done so
[22:45:17] 	 sumanah: Yay, GSoC application drafted! :)
[22:45:35] 	 Jarry1250: Yay!
[22:45:37] 	 Now just to make it better.
[22:45:39] 	 :p
[22:45:48] * sumanah  looks at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Jarry1250/GSoC_2012_application
[22:45:57] 	 That's cheating!
[22:45:59] 	 :D
[22:46:39] 	 Wait, "If you just want to play, we've got a test repository converting phase3 to git."?
[22:47:18] 	 Jarry1250: just to ensure I & the other mentors remember, will you add a note explaining that the lull is because of exams?
[22:47:37] 	 Oh, did I forget to put that? I meant to, thanks.
[22:48:10] 	 Jarry1250: I bet you stalk RecentChanges too! Sauce for the goose, sauce for the gander :D
[22:48:18] 	 Coren: yep
[22:48:37] 	 sumanah: I want my privacy back...! :P
[22:48:46] 	 saper: Ok, then, I /do/ need svn access until the transition.  I need to check my code in /somewhere/  :-)
[22:49:03] 	 03jeroendedauw *  10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialCachedPage.php: fix subpage linking
[22:49:04] 	 Jarry1250: I'm sort of giggling. :)
[22:49:28] 	 Coren: ssh://username@gerrit.wikimedia.org:29418/test/mediawiki/core
[22:49:37] 	 Nikerabbit: AaronSchulz: TimStarling: you might be interested in giving https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Jarry1250/GSoC_2012_application a look "    TranslateSVG: Bringing the translation revolution to Wikimedia Commons"
[22:50:00] 	 saper: Is that going to survive the actual migration?
[22:50:18] 	 Sumanah: Ta, I did do my own shoutout in -i18n in case anyone was idling there :)
[22:50:23] 	 :D
[22:52:02] 	 Coren: that one is a one-off copy
[22:52:42] 	 btw Jarry1250 in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2012-03-19/Technology_report you use "tricky" twice in 1 para
[22:52:57] 	 saper: Okay, I'm probably asking the wrong question.  I have this snazzy extension I'm done coding.  I'd like to commit it /somewhere/.  Who do I talk to and what do I ask for?  :-)
[22:52:59] 	 lol, sounds like me.
[22:53:14] 	 Only Run-DMC are allowed to do that.
[22:53:21] * sumanah  laughs
[22:53:28] 	 (Someone once edited a GAN of mine solely to remove all 13 instances of the word "indeed".)
[22:53:29] 	 Coren: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/New_repositories ?
[22:53:34] 	 Jarry1250: hahaha
[22:53:55] 	 sumanah: Yeay!  Thanks.
[22:54:18] 	 "saper MCs should call me sire" Yaron? :D
[22:54:59] 	 Yes, indeed.
[22:55:16] * sumanah  chuckles again
[22:55:49] 	 Coren: glad to help! and tonight Chad (^demon) will be online again
[22:55:57] 	 he's the king of this stuff; was away last week & today
[22:56:26] 	 Request added.
[23:09:57] 	 03(NEW) WikiLove tab "heart" icon is low-resolution - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35334 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikiLove; (brion)
[23:09:57] 	 03(mod) High-density display issues tracking bug (Android hdpi & xhdpi, iPhone Retina display) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32101  (10Brion Vibber)
[23:11:54] 	 03(mod) Article Feedback v5 - Develop Feedback link Option A (vs. Option E or no link) - Metrics test 2 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34406  +comment (10Fabrice Florin)
[23:11:55] 	 03(mod) WikiLove tab "heart" icon is low-resolution - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35334  +comment (10Brion Vibber)
[23:14:42] 	 03(NEW) Vector "watch" star icon is low-resolution - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35335 normal; MediaWiki: Vector skin; (brion)
[23:14:44] 	 03(mod) High-density display issues tracking bug (Android hdpi & xhdpi, iPhone Retina display) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32101  (10Brion Vibber)
[23:14:52] 	 03catrope *  10/trunk/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5/ArticleFeedbackv5.i18n.php: Followup r114085: add message documentation
[23:16:25] 	 03(NEW) Vector simple search magnifying-glass search icon is low-resolution - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35336 normal; MediaWiki: Vector skin; (brion)
[23:16:25] 	 03(mod) High-density display issues tracking bug (Android hdpi & xhdpi, iPhone Retina display) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32101  (10Brion Vibber)
[23:19:37] 	 03awjrichards *  10/trunk/extensions/MobileFrontend/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Added invocation of GetCacheVaryCookies hook to ad 'mf_useformat' cookie to x-vary-options
[23:20:00] 	 03(NEW) Wikipedia and other site logos pixelated, blurry on high-resolution screens - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35337 normal; Wikimedia: Site logos; (brion)
[23:20:01] 	 03(mod) High-density display issues tracking bug (Android hdpi & xhdpi, iPhone Retina display) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32101  (10Brion Vibber)
[23:20:25] 	 Uh.
[23:20:31] 	 hi Krenair 
[23:20:36] 	 hi
[23:20:41] 	 wikibugs is showing parts of email addresses again
[23:21:21] 	 was mutante working on that?
[23:22:00] 	 03awjrichards *  10/trunk/extensions/MobileFrontend/templates/ApplicationTemplate.php: Finishing implementation of accidentally checked in in previous commit
[23:22:32] 	 03(NEW) Vector skin's default ul/li bullet is low-resolution image, shows pixelated - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35338 normal; MediaWiki: Vector skin; (brion)
[23:22:32] 	 03(mod) High-density display issues tracking bug (Android hdpi & xhdpi, iPhone Retina display) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32101  (10Brion Vibber)
[23:24:08] 	 !b 18831
[23:24:08] 	 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18831
[23:24:51] 	 03(NEW) Article Feedback Page v5 - 'Learn More' Link does not work in flyover pane for 'Hide this post' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35339 major; MediaWiki extensions: ArticleFeedbackv5; (fflorin)
[23:25:20] 	 03(NEW) Vector skin collapsible section arrow is low-resolution - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35340 normal; MediaWiki: Vector skin; (brion)
[23:25:20] 	 03(mod) High-density display issues tracking bug (Android hdpi & xhdpi, iPhone Retina display) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32101  (10Brion Vibber)
[23:25:20] 	 03awjrichards *  10/branches/wmf/1.19wmf1/extensions/MobileFrontend/ (4 files in 2 dirs): MFT r114211, r114212
[23:25:27] 	 04(REOPENED) Wikibugs should use real name instead of e-mail prefix when reporting on IRC - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/18831  +comment (10Krenair)
[23:25:32] 	 03(mod) Article Feedback Page v5 - 'Learn More' Link does not work in flyover pane for 'Hide this post' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35339   +aftv5-1.5 (10Fabrice Florin)
[23:26:40] 	 03(NEW) Vector 'user' icon is low-resolution - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35341 normal; MediaWiki: Vector skin; (brion)
[23:26:40] 	 03(mod) High-density display issues tracking bug (Android hdpi & xhdpi, iPhone Retina display) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32101  (10Brion Vibber)
[23:29:55] 	 03(NEW) WikiEditor editing toolbar icons are low-resolution - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35342 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikiEditor; (brion)
[23:29:58] 	 03(mod) High-density display issues tracking bug (Android hdpi & xhdpi, iPhone Retina display) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32101  (10Brion Vibber)
[23:30:21] 	 03(mod) WikiEditor editing toolbar icons are low-resolution - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35342  +comment (10Brion Vibber)
[23:32:43] 	 link to svn/'?
[23:32:57] 	 03awjrichards *  10/trunk/extensions/MobileFrontend/MobileFrontend.body.php: Followup r114211, adding return true to hook invocation
[23:33:24] 	 !svn
[23:33:24] 	 Subversion is a version control software that allows users to download the very latest version of a branch without having to wait for someone to get around to packaging it. Advantages to using Subversion include the latest version, vastly simplified updating, the ability to roll back an upgrade, the ability to create and submit patches. See http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Subversion for more information.
[23:33:29] 	 03jeroendedauw *  10/trunk/phase3/includes/ (3 files in 2 dirs): split general cache helper functionality to its own class, so we can also easily use it in stuff that does not derive from SpecialPage, such as Action
[23:34:00] 	 03awjrichards *  10/branches/wmf/1.19wmf1/extensions/MobileFrontend/ (. MobileFrontend.body.php): MFT r114214
[23:34:35] 	 New code comment: Preilly; The getCacheVaryCookies hook is missing a return value.; 
[23:35:06] 	 link to svn repository?
[23:35:20] 	 http://svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki/trunk/ pokeswap 
[23:36:50] 	 03qchris *  10/trunk/phase3/includes/parser/Preprocessor_HipHop.hphp: Follow up to r114126: Being more conservative for HipHop compiler
[23:38:37] 	 03(mod) High-density display issues tracking bug (Android hdpi & xhdpi, iPhone Retina display) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32101  (10Brion Vibber)
[23:38:39] 	 03(NEW) Link type icons are low-resolution - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35343 normal; MediaWiki: Vector skin; (brion)
[23:40:00] 	 03jeroendedauw *  10/trunk/extensions/EducationProgram/specials/SpecialStudent.php: fix access level of method
[23:42:55] 	 03(NEW) Enhanced Recent Changes collapse/show arrows are low-resolution - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35344 normal; MediaWiki: Recent changes; (brion)
[23:42:55] 	 03(mod) High-density display issues tracking bug (Android hdpi & xhdpi, iPhone Retina display) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32101  (10Brion Vibber)
[23:44:35] 	 New code comment: QChris; Yes, absolutely :D HipHop does support assert. \ However, as HipHop is taylored for production server; 
[23:45:07] 	 03(NEW) RSS/Atom feed icon for sidebar is low-resolution - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35345 normal; MediaWiki: Vector skin; (brion)
[23:45:08] 	 03(mod) High-density display issues tracking bug (Android hdpi & xhdpi, iPhone Retina display) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32101  (10Brion Vibber)
[23:49:09] 	 03(NEW) ArticleFeedback icons are low-resolution - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35346 normal; MediaWiki extensions: ArticleFeedback; (brion)
[23:49:09] 	 03(mod) High-density display issues tracking bug (Android hdpi & xhdpi, iPhone Retina display) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32101  (10Brion Vibber)
[23:51:14] 	 03(NEW) Create queue for managing Gerrit project owner requests - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35347 normal; Wikimedia: Git/Gerrit; (sumanah)
[23:51:52] 	 Ryan_Lane: on https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35347 do you have an idea of an easy way to do this via Labsconsole or something like that?  :)  OK if you don't
[23:52:04] 	 yes
[23:52:12] 	 we have liquidthreads installed on that wiki
[23:52:38] 	 people can make requests through that, and interested parties can watch the pag
[23:52:41] 	 *page
[23:54:39] 	 Ryan_Lane: LQT it is!
[23:55:06] 	 Ryan_Lane: hm, can you give anons access to post to LQT?  https://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help_talk:Access
[23:55:40] 	 oh
[23:55:42] 	 hm
[23:55:50] 	 I wonder if I can do that via a new namespace
[23:57:04] 	 wait, why's that necessary?
[23:57:13] 	 don't they already have accounts before that?
[23:57:29] 	 oh, I guess they'd be asking for both, eh?
[23:57:51] 	 Ryan_Lane: Yeah. Need to set up a way for people to say "please give me a labsconsole acct" without bugging individuals in IRC :-)
[23:57:59] * Ryan_Lane  nods
[23:58:27] 	 I can likely just open a single page
[23:58:28] 	 and if LQT works for that, might work equally well for "I'd like to claim Gerrit project ownership please"
[23:59:13] 	 Ryan_Lane: btw what's your method for keeping track of multiple wikis' watchlists? I know Krinkle has some monstrous not-recommended hack to globally watch his watchlists
[23:59:22] 	 I don't
[23:59:28] 	 I enable email notifications