[00:00:02] hmmm... interesting idea [00:00:08] Just for consistency you know [00:00:29] Key point on that automated part. [00:01:53] ToAruShiroiNeko:tried safesubst? [00:02:08] The idea is that with a few conventions and code in place it should theoretically be possible for Gareth to automatically get a web hook POST from say GitHub, automatically fetch updates from that repo, and then look at the new commits. Gareth sees some normal convention we use and automatically turns those new commits into something for review. [00:02:39] OK [00:02:41] So the net effect is you push to your own public repo. ;) And you end up with a new review set in gareth automatically. [00:02:46] That sounds very nice [00:02:56] I think it would be good, though, to keep things simple initially [00:03:36] Things like automatic updates from Github and picking stuff from the web interface are very cool features (and I like them), but it's probably best to start with the simplest possible thing to just get the system to work, and then add the rest later [00:03:55] Well yeah start with the basics [00:04:14] I like where you're going with this though, these are cool ideas [00:04:33] i am having pear mail errors such as Strict Standards: Non-static method PEAR::isError when using this: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:EmailPage . any ideas how to solve the problem ? [00:04:36] brb [00:04:59] I added "$wgFileExtensions[] = 'pdf';", but it still woin't let me upload pdf files [00:05:43] What error do you get? [00:05:54] it won't let me select the file [00:05:57] 03(FIXED) Bad link on "CC BY-SA 3.0" in page footer when viewed on Android - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35617 +comment (10Jon) [00:05:58] ** Near worst case scenario gareth doesn't know what to do and you get some sort of notification telling you that you have commits to create a review from. [00:06:12] when I click Choose File, then choose a pdf, it shows as "No File Selected" [00:06:16] but it doesn't happen when I do jpeg [00:06:24] ** Absolute worst case scenario; Gareth guesses wrong, and you have to tell it to split or combine review sets. [00:06:25] so is the visual editor a special page prototype right now, rather than a fully integrated editor that can actually modify pages? [00:06:36] Im having a small issue, I'm getting -1 for active users on my my wiki, it can be seen here: http://wiki0x10c.com/wiki/Special:Statistics [00:06:37] DanielFriesen: I think the simplest thing to start with would be to have a github-like public repo where people can just push arbitrary things, managed by gitosis or gitolite. Then Gareth would listen on that repo (easy because it'd be co-hosted on the same box, you just put in a hook) and import stuff from that [00:06:40] What would cause this [00:06:46] yellowfish: Is your wiki public? [00:06:50] chuck: Yes, the visual editor is not yet in a state where it can modify pages [00:07:03] Joan, well anyone can edit. What does "public" mean? [00:07:14] yellowfish: Can you provide a URL to it? [00:07:53] Sid-G ok I managed somehow [00:07:55] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Ranks_and_insignia_of_NATO/Generic/Army/OF-10 [00:07:56] DanielFriesen: Cause I'd really like to have a workflow where people can just push to refs/heads/mycoolfeature (i.e. git push origin mycoolfeature) and have that Just Work, rather than having to push to refs/for/blah or some other special ref. Easier on the user and avoids the need for a git wrapper/reimplementation in c++ [00:07:59] RoanKattouw: Web hooks are actually fairly trivial. [00:08:00] do you see the prolem tho? [00:08:27] I would prefer the hbar above the notes [00:08:30] RoanKattouw, Ah, okay. It's looks fantastic right now though, nice work to you and the other contributors! I'm glad MediaWiki is finally getting this and that the editor looks so nice and clean [00:08:42] RoanKattouw: Yeah, one thought is that pushing some branches will make Gareth automatically guess the review topic's name. [00:08:51] Joan, did you get the PM? [00:08:58] Yeah that's how I'd like it to work [00:09:02] Maybe prefix-based [00:09:03] Or if it sees parts of another review branch, automatically guess that you are forking, following up, etc... [00:09:18] Like, if you push to a branch called review/mycoolfeature, it'll pick that up as a review request [00:09:31] Of course it's not all too hard to add in preferences. [00:09:34] yellowfish: Yes, that's a nice skin you have. [00:09:35] Sid-G safe subst? [00:09:36] Where'd you find it? [00:10:00] Make it so when you configure a remote you can tell it "Turn everything that starts with review/ into a new review branch" [00:10:13] ToAruShiroiNeko:looking [00:10:14] DanielFriesen: ? [00:10:44] You tell gareth about a repo to fetch from. [00:10:49] Oooh [00:10:53] Right, gotcha [00:10:55] From that section we can let you configure preferences. [00:10:59] Make the 'review/' prefix configurable [00:11:06] ;) Not just configurable [00:11:09] If a branch has X prefix, do action Y [00:11:14] Not even mandatory [00:11:23] You could add in any prefix. [00:11:31] Or tell it you use commit message patterns. [00:11:34] Right [00:11:42] If commit satisfies ruleset X, do action Y [00:11:51] "I use "Review: ..." in my commit messages to start review branches, use that" [00:12:39] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "Merged r114672 from wmf1.19 plus tests; crosswiki block name/id fix." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4601 [00:12:51] Re comments: yes, they should be associated with commits for splittability, BUT you should be able to view an entire review branch and all of its comments in one view [00:13:08] Yeah, of course. [00:13:24] Ideally I'd like us to do inline comments for the combined diff [00:13:26] ToAruShiroiNeko:u want an hbar, ie an
before the refs are listed? [00:13:27] 03bsitu * 10/trunk/extensions/PageTriage/PageTriage.php: followup to -r114815 - add pagelimiter for anon user in case anon user can patrol [00:13:32] Yeah, same though. [00:13:33] But this is probably not easy to combine with the splittability thing [00:13:41] I don't know about that. [00:13:55] If you do inline commits then you definitely annotate them to commits. [00:13:56] New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4601 [00:14:01] ToAruShiroiNeko:asking coz i don't know the problem yet [00:14:26] Hmm [00:14:30] I guess that's reasonable [00:14:54] If for some reason the combined diff of the entire branch is more reviewable than the individual commits, then maybe it shouldn't have been submitted that way [00:15:05] Sid-G no [00:15:08] So I guess it's reasonable if aggregate diffs aren't commentable [00:15:10] the h bar [00:15:12] scroll bar [00:15:15] text should be under it [00:15:18] ;) "Choices are key" [00:15:34] Give the user the option to view it with whatever restriction makes it most readable. [00:15:36] ToAruShiroiNeko:what text? [00:15:46] ToAruShiroiNeko:the refs? [00:15:50] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Ranks_and_insignia_of_NATO/Generic/Army/OF-10 [00:15:55] "symbolic rank" [00:15:55] etc [00:15:56] 03(mod) Bad link on "CC BY-SA 3.0" in page footer when viewed on Android - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35617 +comment (10Jon) [00:15:58] looking at it [00:16:05] On self-hosted first. Web hooks are actually trivial. The idea is to first let you add remotes and manually tell it to fetch updates. From there its a small tweak and web hooks are ready. [00:16:09] thats easy [00:16:17] 03(NEW) Dismiss keyboard when users is scrolling through full screen search reulsts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35841 normal; Wikipedia App: Search; (tfinc) [00:16:21] Right [00:16:24] ToAruShiroiNeko:Add the after the template! [00:16:25] After you have that any GitHub, self-hosted push hooks, etc... is trivial [00:16:27] code is at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Ranks_and_insignia_of_NATO/Generic/Top and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Ranks_and_insignia_of_NATO/Generic/Bottom [00:16:36] when I move the div it affects the hbar [00:16:53] ToAruShiroiNeko:lemme try [00:16:57] Besides choices and the other fundamental points. Another fundamental point is interoperability. [00:17:15] Naturally things like "bug ###" autolinking will be easy to configure and setup. [00:17:47] But beyond that one of the fundamental points is to try and co-exist with other systems. [00:18:09] how about this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Ranks_and_insignia_of_NATO/Generic/Army/OF-10 [00:18:14] Web hooks let you use any public repo host you want and get all the features for minimal setup. [00:18:37] Autolinking config lets you use whatever bugtracker, commit viewer, etc... you want. [00:18:50] Pluggable users let you throw in LDAP. [00:19:30] 03(mod) MobileFrontend has no link to activate the beta functions unless you read blog.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32148 normal->15enhancement; +comment (10Jon) [00:19:59] Not handling personal repos on our own lets WM setup anything they want for that (Gitorious, one of those other things you thought of, or a custom rolled solution, etc...) and makes it so we can easily intergrate with it. [00:20:25] Sid-G perfect [00:20:26] It cuts down on the work to build it, and lets you pick whatever system is the best later. [00:21:12] Sid-G one thing is annoying now though [00:21:28] it is very inconvenient to horizontal scrol now that the hbar isnt always visible [00:21:41] perhaps height can be restricted somehow [00:21:44] any ideas? [00:21:56] I want to avoid a static height if possible though [00:22:13] Oh well, time to leave. [00:22:18] Sid-G one thing is annoying now though, it is very inconvenient to horizontal scrol now that the hbar isnt always visible [00:22:28] perhaps height can be restricted somehow - any ideas? I want to avoid a static height if possible though [00:22:39] ToAruShiroiNeko:use a vertical scroll too [00:22:49] could you add it? [00:23:00] ToAruShiroiNeko:i dont know how [00:23:15] ToAruShiroiNeko:google for html scrollbars [00:24:10] omg google [00:24:33] moving along you wer talking about an hbar on the top as well [00:24:39] is this somehting you can do? [00:25:22] ToAruShiroiNeko:i think that's possible [00:25:27] ToAruShiroiNeko:but not without googling [00:25:49] 03(NEW) MobileFrontend breaks frontend caching in some cases - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35842 normal; Wikimedia Mobile: Generic; (afeldman) [00:29:30] Hey, does anybody know what the "uselang=" value is that shows you the message name, for each message, instead of any of its values? [00:29:36] qqx? [00:29:42] hmm [00:29:47] Sid-G problem: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:%E3%81%A8%E3%81%82%E3%82%8B%E7%99%BD%E3%81%84%E7%8C%AB/Archive/2012#File:Placeholder-None.svg [00:29:52] Google's Datacentres are crazy... I just saw this video :O http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRwPSFpLX8I [00:29:59] you can see how white space is introduced [00:30:15] RoanKattouw - thanks! [00:30:16] if you revert back your edit to /Bottom this is fixed [00:30:35] ToAruShiroiNeko:looking [00:30:46] perhaps notes should be an independent template [00:31:20] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:??????/Archive/2012#File:Placeholder-None.svg is this the right link? :/ [00:31:43] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:%E3%81%A8%E3%81%82%E3%82%8B%E7%99%BD%E3%81%84%E7%8C%AB/Archive/2012#File:Placeholder-None.svg this is what u gave [00:32:13] yes [00:32:16] scroll up a little [00:32:26] see how white space exists? [00:32:46] ToAruShiroiNeko:what whitespace? [00:32:50] 03(FIXED) Change table.metadata to metadata - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31510 +comment (10Jon) [00:33:10] open the same page as a new tab without refreshing [00:33:14] you can see the difference [00:33:55] oh [00:34:01] its worse than I had thought [00:34:09] the div is occupying the entire width [00:34:17] it shouldnt. [00:34:29] how about ending the div in the table itself? [00:34:38] Just a question for anyone who knows, why do Google and Microsoft like shipping containers for datacentres? [00:34:47] please try it :) [00:35:47] Lcawte thats how they deliver the "interns" from china :p [00:36:51] Sid-G I reverted your edit to /Bottom for the time being btw [00:36:59] I want to keep the text inside I suppose [00:37:06] ToAruShiroiNeko:saw that [00:37:14] ToAruShiroiNeko:messed it up again btw :P [00:37:21] 03(mod) Portal pages need to be redesigned for mobile - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30887 +comment (10Jon) [00:37:52] ToAruShiroiNeko:btw why is the table to the right? [00:38:18] New patchset: Tim Starling; "Remove request_with_session/request_without_session" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4602 [00:38:35] ToAruShiroiNeko:ok, i messed it up bad [00:39:35] New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4602 [00:40:40] 03(mod) Malicious Javascript not stripped from AFTv5 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35491 major->minor; -aftv5-1.5 +aftv5-2.0; +comment (10Fabrice Florin) [00:42:17] :o\ [00:42:22] 03(mod) Scrolling within Wikipedia app is slow and sluggish - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35777 (10Tomasz Finc) [00:42:50] I think it works fine now [00:42:56] ToAruShiroiNeko:its the div that's messing stuff up [00:44:09] 03(mod) replacing "hidden by Article Feedback V5" link with the actual account - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35501 +comment (10Fabrice Florin) [00:45:48] 03(mod) Article Feedback v5 - Update Notices for Feedback Page Actions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35599 +comment (10Fabrice Florin) [00:45:50] Sid-G ya [00:45:59] div extends max width [00:46:40] how to make a div strech to the limit of the page width but not extend to the limit of the width if content does not require it [00:48:02] ToAruShiroiNeko:Congrats, u have successfully given me a headache :P [00:49:18] 03(mod) replacing "hidden by Article Feedback V5" link with the actual account - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35501 +comment (10Fabrice Florin) [00:49:38] yay [00:49:43] 03(NEW) iOS 4.2 Large article loading is slow while we inject content into the dom - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35843 normal; Wikipedia App: Generic; (tfinc) [00:50:01] Sid-G the fun thing is this table is used by actual millitaries [00:50:13] well, the more primative version is [00:50:13] how? [00:50:24] in printed form [00:50:44] militaries have plagiarised en-wp? [00:50:48] yup [00:50:51] <3 [00:51:09] I can tell my work fairly easily [00:51:29] o.o [00:54:11] and i was annoyed about universities and newspapers plagiarising en-wp articles [00:54:29] apparently the world is much worse than i anticipate [00:54:33] * Sid-G sighs... [01:03:17] yellowfish: gj [01:06:41] Sid-G: Hey [01:20:42] ToAru:My turn to ask. [01:21:10] Sid-G: you can use tab completion to ping the other person. And also easier to type :) [01:21:34] * Sid-G had never used that till today and did not know of it either [01:21:36] Thanks :D [01:22:12] Sid-G: :) [01:22:18] ToAruShiroiNeko: Why doesn't this add the colspan and border property to the heading? http://en.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Table_start&action=edit [01:22:37] ToAruShiroiNeko: its used in the first three headings at http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/User:ShakespeareFan00/collapsing_tables [01:23:25] Sid-G: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-in-en/2012-April/000385.html [01:23:26] Sid-G actually [01:23:29] I am proud [01:23:32] that tool i was working on is now being used to a lot of people. [01:23:45] YuviPanda:cool [01:23:46] that people plagarise my work [01:23:53] looking at your question now [01:23:58] ToAruShiroiNeko:well who isn't [01:24:09] morons arent [01:24:12] YuviPanda:free for twinkle now :D [01:24:14] ? [01:24:23] nope, been pulled into another tool already :) [01:24:37] you start with class [01:24:37] which one? [01:24:44] first item is applied by default [01:25:03] done? [01:25:34] wikitable can be vicious [01:26:00] what did u do? [01:26:09] just switched the class and style? [01:26:54] whatever u did, thats not what i asked [01:27:10] see http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/User:ShakespeareFan00/collapsing_tables [01:27:26] click the [show] on 1 Ric. 2 [01:29:21] ToAruShiroiNeko: btw, why style first? [01:30:52] ToAruShiroiNeko: u get the problem? [01:33:01] ? [01:34:59] Sid-G well [01:35:01] as far as I know [01:35:04] first item overrides [01:35:21] ToAruShiroiNeko:which first item [01:35:22] ? [01:35:25] OH [01:35:30] I see the problem [01:35:35] you want collapsable borders right? [01:35:42] no [01:35:48] thats not the problem [01:35:59] ok [01:36:05] I dont understand the proble then [01:36:11] the problem is that the colspan=5 and border=0 properties aren't being applied on the innermost table [01:36:12] what do you want the result [01:36:18] hmm [01:36:39] click [show] on 1378 [01:36:43] click show on 2 Ric. 2 St. 1 [01:36:54] thats the result i want [01:37:01] almost [01:37:15] why are you using {{#if:{{{colspan|}}}|colspan{{=}}{{{colspan}}}}} [01:37:32] I would just use colspan="{{{colspan|1}}}" [01:37:44] ok [01:37:57] it uses no parsers and in essence is the same [01:38:04] provided the user doesnt pass a letter or something [01:38:08] which would still blow with an if [01:38:51] border=0 will be disregarded because wikitable class assigns borders to individual cells [01:39:01] I have never been able to quite defeat wikitable [01:39:05] its persistance is annoying [01:39:24] ToAruShiroiNeko:wikitable assigns border to both table and individual cells [01:40:43] ToAruShiroiNeko: the colspan is still not applying [01:44:54] ToAruShiroiNeko: any idea on the colspan [01:49:08] ? [01:50:02] hmm [01:50:04] looking [01:51:27] is this what you wanted? [01:55:42] ToAruShiroiNeko: Thanks :D [01:56:45] ToAruShiroiNeko: btw, what i'm trying to do is make easily nestable tables [01:56:49] I think the space did it [01:56:58] ya that helps [01:57:07] parser functions can be quite lame [01:57:12] ToAruShiroiNeko: i think it was the template [01:57:41] thanks to you and Joan the rank thing improved a lot [01:59:06] ToAruShiroiNeko:BTW, as a reminder, u need to fix the membership code. Its too heavy as of now [01:59:17] yeah I know [01:59:27] I am low on ideas tho [01:59:51] ToAruShiroiNeko:I'd asked u to explain it to me [02:00:24] ToAruShiroiNeko:I wanna unbloat it, but can't do anything without knowing what the params do [02:06:52] Sid-G sure [02:06:55] I can explain [02:07:09] what I want to do is [02:07:16] ToAruShiroiNeko: a sec [02:07:17] have country templates hold all membership dates [02:07:31] * ToAruShiroiNeko idles for 1000 mili seconds [02:07:31] ToAruShiroiNeko: lemme open the subtemplates [02:07:42] the sub templates are regulators [02:08:16] you understood the logic before [02:08:23] i need to know which one is called from where and does what [02:08:34] they are all called at once [02:08:37] i remember the header and footer [02:08:48] i need to know the sequence [02:08:53] think of it as a series of if/elses [02:08:55] well ok [02:09:16] what does CountryExists do? [02:10:44] it checks if country exists or not [02:10:53] countries rise and fall [02:11:25] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Membership/Portugal [02:11:27] consider this\ [02:12:12] yes [02:12:16] it calls sub/T [02:12:21] yes [02:12:51] sub/T simply calls sub/CountryExists with all the params intact [02:12:57] yes [02:13:07] but wwhat's the data? [02:13:16] 03(mod) [labsconsole] use SSL in interwiki map for WMF wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35826 +comment (10billinghurst) [02:14:00] ok, nevermind the data [02:14:10] CountryExists only checks if country exist or not [02:14:18] CountryExists is a big if basically [02:14:23] if the passed date it is within the window [02:14:26] right [02:14:31] what does it return in true and false cases? [02:15:00] if I am going to ask for a countries international membershim in the 60s I do not need to check anything if the country started to exist in the 80s [02:15:10] i get that [02:15:23] if true it returns what? [02:16:10] it returns whatever Data holds if succesful [02:16:16] it returns {{{data}}} [02:16:22] right? [02:16:26] yes [02:16:28] or an error [02:16:30] Data is not rendered at all if false [02:16:39] or I think it isnt [02:17:26] !lua [02:17:26] I don't know anything about "lua". [02:17:31] :( [02:17:45] Sid-G I dont have any true errors coded [02:17:56] error is text "country doesnt exist" [02:17:57] !lua is http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Lua_scripting [02:17:58] Successfully added keyword: lua [02:18:12] !lua [02:18:12] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Lua_scripting [02:18:13] !lua YuviPanda [02:18:13] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Lua_scripting [02:18:17] Sid-G: thanks :) [02:18:34] !porn [02:18:34] YuviPanda:np, although someone should define a better definition [02:18:34] I don't know anything about "porn". You might try: !worstcase [02:18:40] lol [02:18:42] !worstcase [02:18:42] Generally, the worst that can happen is that someone compromises your site, steals your data, deletes it and replaces it with kiddy porn. Then they start a spam service on your server advertising the kiddy porn to twenty million email addresses, daily. Then your home gets raided, you get fired and your wife leaves you. Then you get killed in your sleep by ninjas. [02:19:00] why doesn't that include PHP? [02:19:04] or ParserFunctions? [02:19:08] !worstcase is PHP [02:19:08] Keyword "worstcase" already exists. Use "!worstcase del" to remove it. [02:19:20] Sid-G: best to leave it alone, methinks [02:19:21] Because in the end, php is not actually the worst case. [02:19:33] * Sid-G doesn't really care [02:19:53] YuviPanda: u're free to leave it alone :P [02:19:59] :) [02:19:59] Also, mw-bot has its own channel. [02:20:00] btw, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lua_(programming_language) [02:20:11] Amgine:which one? [02:20:17] Sid-G do you better understand the template? [02:20:25] i've used Lua before, and have started reading up on it again [02:20:26] ToAruShiroiNeko :a bit [02:20:36] will be writing lua-mwapi to compliment python-mwapi and learn lua when I can :) [02:20:48] Sid-G: #mwbot [02:20:58] Amgine:k [02:21:12] ToAruShiroiNeko:lets move to sub/date [02:21:34] Membership/Sub/Date checks if the organization exists at all [02:21:36] 3~/buffer 28 [02:22:13] can someone tell me how far back 'recent changes' go in enwiki? [02:22:16] after that checks if country is a memebr [02:22:27] ToAruShiroiNeko:no wait [02:22:30] there are levels of membership and this is probably vast majority of the complicaiton [02:22:42] ToAruShiroiNeko:sub/date simply calls sub/exists [02:23:04] hmm, atleast 30 days [02:23:09] YuviPanda: I believe it's a number of RCs, but I do not remember what that number is. [02:23:26] yeah, i found that when reading through the db schema [02:23:39] kk [02:24:01] [02:24:02] but don't know what value is set for enwiki though [02:24:04] ToAruShiroiNeko: its the sub/exists which checks for the org's existence [02:24:07] sid yes that checks if the organization exists or not [02:24:11] precisely [02:24:12] Amgine: it is. I am not sure what it is configured to in enwiki [02:24:23] ToAruShiroiNeko: and returns the {{{data}}} [02:24:25] rest of the code is executed provided org exists [02:24:31] yup [02:24:47] each layer of check is to execute as little code a spossible [02:24:54] or at least that is my intent [02:25:25] I am confident this is what happens but not really 100% sure :/ [02:25:30] ToAruShiroiNeko:that isn't what u want to do to keep it simple [02:26:06] no but otherwise irrlevant code keeps getting executed [02:26:08] consider http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:International_membership_templates/1936 [02:26:13] ToAruShiroiNeko:we could probably merge two/three subs and simplify this [02:26:15] no point in checking NATO [02:26:21] Sid-G right [02:26:31] if you can do that, do so with my blessings [02:26:37] I added layers trying to make it work [02:26:40] ToAruShiroiNeko: would u mind if i try to set up a parallel system? [02:26:54] ToAruShiroiNeko: i'm not good with fixing code, though i can make it [02:26:56] as long as you use the country templates, I am ok [02:27:07] yes, input remains same [02:27:16] i only make subtemplates in my userspace [02:27:17] thats the important part :) [02:27:28] ok, will try when i get time [02:27:33] but [02:27:35] you can use Template:Membership/ namespace [02:27:39] there's more to ask still [02:27:43] ok [02:27:46] I am here [02:28:12] obligatory youtube link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-OgmZ_aeXM [02:28:23] what is sub/date doing with the data? [02:28:59] its trying to determine what the country is doing [02:29:03] is it a member or not [02:29:06] is it a candidate [02:29:22] Initially I only cared about membership [02:29:37] but then I quickly realised some relationships are more complex [02:30:27] YuviPanda: I'm not finding a config value for number of RC. [02:30:29] so it determines the kind of membership and calls sub/call accordingly? [02:30:48] Amgine: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgRCMaxAge [02:31:00] right [02:31:07] but that probably needs an overhaul [02:31:17] because my assumptions arent realistic [02:31:32] sometimes countries join leave and join again [02:31:42] there are cases of suspensions too [02:31:46] Amgine: do you know where I can look at the configs for enwiki? [02:32:04] ToAruShiroiNeko:sub/call just calls a subtemplate of sub/flag [02:32:12] right [02:32:23] which is where the actual flags are located [02:32:24] thats a series of calls that generates the image and text [02:32:51] all of them call http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Membership/Sub/Flag/icon [02:33:01] just to render the file icon? [02:33:01] YuviPanda: I don't believe they are public. Ask in operations? [02:33:24] they aren't? I remember seeing a subdomain where they were with public info stripped [02:33:30] it might be memory corruption my end too, though [02:33:43] Sid-G I believe so [02:33:58] ToAruShiroiNeko: thats really redundant for starters [02:34:07] I avoided merging all icons into one template to avoid if's [02:34:18] a switch maybe better [02:34:23] but u could've substed the icon template [02:34:43] simple and no calls needed [02:34:56] YuviPanda: You may be right; I just don't know where if so. [02:35:02] Amgine: http://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/ [02:35:08] feel free to do so if you think it will improve [02:35:13] no aah [02:35:16] that doesn't really have it [02:35:31] http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Membership/Sub/Flag/EU&action=edit is readable though :p [02:35:48] Amgine: $wgRCMaxAge = 30 * 86400; [02:35:51] 30 days indeed :) [02:35:52] ToAruShiroiNeko: i dont think we'll ever need to read one [02:35:57] ok [02:36:36] 04(REOPENED) Mobile sites being indexed by search engines - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35233 +comment (10Erik Moeller) [02:37:13] YuviPanda: Heh. [02:37:32] Amgine: or 'same as what you see when you click on Recent Changes' :) [02:37:36] ToAruShiroiNeko: so basically the sub/flag/icon templates create the icons; which template adds the || needed in between? [02:37:53] YuviPanda: ^ !b #35233 [02:38:01] just saw [02:38:12] will have to wait on patrick and tomasz on that one [02:38:44] WIKIPEDIA SWITCHES TO OPENSTREETMAPS, BUT GOOGLE BACKS WIKIPEDIA AND OPENSTREET MAPS IT IS ALL A CONSPIRACY. [02:38:46] Sid-G I dont remember that kind of detail [02:38:58] Hum. [02:39:05] YuviPanda: We should use Bing maps [02:39:08] somewhere along the line that is generated [02:39:19] Reedy: we're using Mapquest. I was told they're more evil [02:39:21] Wouldn't it be easy enough to fix robots.txt for m.wp? [02:39:29] we should use actual maps [02:39:32] ToAruShiroiNeko:we have so many subtemplates just to add icons and || and u dont remember which one adds || ? o.o [02:39:35] user is asked to print it [02:39:49] Order a copy of the english wikipedia, receive your free zoom level 18 map for the entire world FOR FREE! [02:39:55] Sid-G that is exactly correct [02:40:08] My guess is that is a sub template [02:40:14] YuviPanda: plus shipping and handling. [02:40:28] I believe I have subst' that [02:40:35] YuviPanda:we might just sell a few copies [02:40:47] and the amount of time it'll take for the Indian Government to look through every map and stamp 'not an accurate representation of the indian borders' [02:40:50] would be quite big [02:40:55] ToAruShiroiNeko:http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Membership/Sub/Size&action=edit really? [02:41:05] just for this a subtemplate!!! [02:41:15] that is to regulate the size of all flags [02:41:23] I dont want to crawl evey template for it [02:41:44] I expect flame wars from people saying flags are too big or small [02:41:45] :/ [02:41:55] Reedy: that'd actually make for a nice April Fool's joke [02:42:08] and by next april our apps won't suck! :D [02:42:11] ToAruShiroiNeko:where is it called? [02:42:57] its called every time an image is used [02:43:02] so quite often [02:43:12] you can set it 220px just to see how everything blows <3 [02:43:13] ToAruShiroiNeko: http://hi.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A4%B8%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%81%E0%A4%9A%E0%A4%BE:%E0%A4%85%E0%A4%82%E0%A4%95_%E0%A4%AA%E0%A4%B0%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%B0%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%A4%E0%A4%A8 is much better at avoiding redundancy /end boast [02:44:16] ToAruShiroiNeko:u could have just added it to http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Membership/Sub/Flag/icon&action=edit ? [02:44:19] * YuviPanda promises to help write templates once lua is deployed  [02:44:26] will stick to userscripts till then :) [02:45:34] YuviPanda:there wont be a problem with templates once lua is out anyway [02:45:50] :) [02:45:51] true [02:46:47] Sid-G I honestly do not remember all the code [02:46:59] there is code I dont use for instance [02:47:04] I tried many things [02:47:10] ToAruShiroiNeko:ok, i'll try to make a simpler code [02:47:24] yay! [02:47:51] the main reason I dont subst: everything is because thats a mess to read [02:47:54] YuviPanda:how lon before lua? [02:48:11] Sid-G: i'm not sure :) you're asking the wrong person [02:48:45] YuviPanda:any idea? an year? a month? [02:48:52] definitely not a month [02:48:55] closer to a year [02:49:11] * Sid-G thinks about expanding his template [02:50:38] Consider modularizing it for maintainability. A year is a long period in wikitime. [02:51:11] ToAruShiroiNeko:that template i linked to can convert unformatted numerals between 0 and 9999 from one system to another using just 9 subtemplates [02:51:40] ToAruShiroiNeko:and its extensible to support formatted numbers and upto as many digits as needed [02:53:17] assuming similar formatting that is [02:55:44] lua has 1 based arrays?! [02:55:44] o_O [02:55:45] O_o [02:55:46] ok [02:55:58] lua has what? [02:56:16] by convention, indexes in lua arrays start from 1 not 0 [02:56:31] niiice [02:56:47] depends on how you look at it [02:57:19] i'll be writing php for mw, js for mw, python when I want to actually get stuff done and they all have 0 based arrays [02:57:25] it's a context switch [02:57:27] hmm [02:57:33] not a context switch, wrong phrase [02:57:35] but still... [02:58:32] that just means lua makes more sense than any of those [02:59:04] also -= instead of != [02:59:36] not equalto is -= [02:59:38] ? [02:59:50] yeah [02:59:55] you don't say != for 'not equal to' [02:59:57] but -= [03:00:09] ok thats weird [03:00:27] Sid-G: why? [03:00:27] whats the shorthand for subtraction then [03:00:31] technically it makes more sense too! [03:00:32] :P [03:00:37] a =a -5 a-=5 ? [03:00:48] 'negation of == is -=' makes sense no? [03:01:14] it's ~= not -= [03:01:16] no shorthand operators. Expandi t fully [03:01:21] for not equals [03:01:29] that does, but shorthands should be there [03:01:31] TimStarling: ok. my eyesight sucks [03:01:32] sorry [03:01:34] that does make sense [03:01:35] New review: Reedy; "moveToInternal never returns anything, but will throw an exception." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4517 [03:01:51] wow, I didn't realize it sucked that bad. [03:01:58] Sid-G: as TimStarling says, ~=, not -= [03:02:14] YuviPanda: get it checked [03:02:28] Sid-G: i've glasses, have it off atm. [03:02:28] YuviPanda: or turn down the monitor brightness [03:02:34] plus i've never really had this issue before. [03:02:37] but wow, that was bad [03:03:01] YuviPanda: yeah, dont wear glasses now. wear inches thick glasses when u're 80 [03:03:07] :) [03:03:33] ToAruShiroiNeko: i just cut down hundreds (possibly thousands) of transclusions just with that size subtemplate [03:04:43] http://lua-users.org/wiki/CountingFromOne [03:06:09] obviously you can write t[0] = whatever; if you want to [03:06:22] TimStarling: isn't that going to be confusing? [03:06:28] it's not like old BASIC dialects where arrays really physically started at 1 [03:06:36] heh. [03:07:40] ah, it has multiple returns. Nice [03:07:42] it's potentially confusing [03:07:53] probably not as bad as numerical recipes in C though [03:08:11] * ToAruShiroiNeko stabs TimStarling [03:08:12] a large mathematical library for C and fortran which used 1-based arrays [03:08:16] TimStarling will you wikimania? [03:08:33] no [03:08:34] me and my 500 parallel cmd runs will greet you! :p [03:08:36] aw [03:08:49] you came all the way to egypt and not DC? Its good to be in dc you know. [03:09:03] * YuviPanda looks forward to the off by one errors that'll keep popping up [03:09:05] or maybe not [03:09:11] they keep popping up anyway. [03:09:12] I wasn't invited [03:09:19] TimStarling I wasnt either [03:09:31] I intend to para drop from an osprey [03:09:50] pentagon doesnt want to give one away :( [03:14:04] Sid-G so code problem solved? [03:14:48] ToAruShiroiNeko:not yet. Its still much bloated [03:15:00] ToAruShiroiNeko: will still make a parallel system [03:22:27] thats fine [03:22:54] I intentionally made an effort to make this possible [03:22:59] so that all data isnt rentered [03:34:47] ToAruShiroiNeko: here? [03:35:08] ToAruShiroiNeko: i've managed to create this mess http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/User:ShakespeareFan00/collapsing_tables [03:37:27] or not a mess [03:43:04] 03(mod) Clean up current images with wrong SHA1 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34755 +comment (10Zachary Harden) [04:02:06] Sid-G what? [04:02:39] ToAruShiroiNeko:nvm, it got solved [04:02:49] yay! [04:03:32] http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/User:ShakespeareFan00/collapsing_tables yay indeed! [04:04:14] pretty nested wikitables :D [04:04:29] pretty and nested, to clarify [04:06:20] 03(NEW) Images rendering for high-DPI / high device pixel ratio / "retina" display - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35844 enhancement; MediaWiki: Images and files; (peterwhy) [04:15:29] New review: Krinkle; "Only a few of the changed strings actually go through the parser. The HTML skins for instance do not..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4312 [04:15:35] 03(mod) Sometimes the nearby layer can be scrolled up to reveal the web page beneath it. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35828 +comment (10Liangent) [04:17:42] Is there a software/thingy to convert a wiki page's history into a git repo? [04:17:44] 03(NEW) All menu text is shown as "null" before the UI is fully initialized. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35845 normal; Wikipedia App: Generic; (liangent) [04:18:02] with the editsummaries as the commits? [04:21:05] 03(NEW) Sometimes "Clear history" doesn't work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35846 normal; Wikipedia App: History; (liangent) [04:27:31] newbie here, trying to just do a table to wrap text inside, do {|text|} but no box shows, what am I doing wrong. [04:28:23] yaboo:{|class="wikitable [04:28:23] {|class="wikitable" [04:28:23] |- [04:28:23] |text [04:28:24] |} [04:28:33] use the linebreaks too [04:28:42] ok Sig-G thanks [04:28:58] further info http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Table [04:29:04] !table [04:29:04] For help on creating tables in wikitext, see and [04:29:08] is this the easiest to wrap text around a box [04:29:36] on the url not see in the class="wikitable" part [04:30:15] 
text
[04:30:22] only unformatted text though [04:30:29] Sid-G, thanks [04:30:56] the class="wikitable" part isn't necessary, but it renders better than simple tables [04:31:11] atleast it looks better [04:31:18] 03(NEW) Article content is shown below saved articles - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35847 normal; Wikipedia App: Save Article; (liangent) [04:32:22] Sid-G, thanks 
 did the job
[04:51:05] 	 santhosh1: Hey, should I file a bug for the schwa syncope rule for hi transliteration? I couldn't get it to work correctly in any way
[05:05:02] 	 03(mod) [labsconsole] use SSL in interwiki map for WMF wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35826  +comment (10Jeremy Baron)
[05:18:28] 	 03(NEW) Mail confirmation code failure - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35848 normal; MediaWiki: Email; (jmcclure)
[05:34:06] 	 03tstarling *  10/trunk/php/luasandbox/ (4 files in 2 dirs):
[05:34:06] 	 * Added the ability to raise a normal Lua error in a PHP library by throwing a special kind of exception. This allows PHP libraries to have the same kind of error handling conventions as built-in libraries.
[05:34:06] 	 * Fixed a couple of compiler warnings.
[06:48:30] 	 04(REOPENED) Overwrite of the copyright owner in campaigns has no effect - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30762  +comment (10Strainu)
[06:51:38] 	 03(mod) Images rendering for high-DPI / high device pixel ratio / "retina" display - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35844  (10Bryan Tong Minh)
[07:00:57] 	 03(NEW) Variable names showing on the oversight page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35849 normal; MediaWiki extensions: ArticleFeedbackv5; (okeyes)
[07:05:52] 	 > Counting from 1 is the number one reason why I don't use Lua. Other than this, it is a very nice language, but it is just so much easier to code with half-open ranges. I disagree when people tell me "it is more natural to count from one." It is just an old leftover from the past. If you really think about it, it makes a lot more sense to count from 0.
[07:05:57] 	 --Zifre
[07:05:59] 	 >> Zifre, don't you mean, "Counting from 1 is the number *zero* reason why I don't use Lua."?
[07:08:05] 	 New review: Nikerabbit; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4602
[07:10:25] 	 lo
[07:11:44] 	 New review: Nikerabbit; "I just want to say that I disagree. Besides, in my experience getting the escaping wrong (say, missi..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4312
[07:16:43] 	 freakolowsky: hi
[07:17:21] 	 hey little grasshopper :D
[07:17:32] 	 freakolowsky: :)
[07:19:05] 	 freakolowsky: i dont want to maintain a many-to-many relationship via sub pages..
[07:19:59] 	 freakolowsky: so what i was thinking was create a parent page and let the other pages point to it..
[07:20:26] 	 freakolowsky: for example, for every registration there can be more than one events..
[07:20:57] 	 yep ... that's also better for compiling the whole dataset of a conference ... as it becomes a tree
[07:21:34] 	 freakolowsky: so in this situation. create one parent registration page and store all the content in it.. and then create more pages which have an event(page_prop) and a parent property which points to this parent registration page..
[07:21:50] 	 yes 
[07:22:18] 	 freakolowsky: I am almost done with the backend code.. will share it on github..
[07:22:31] 	 PS: have you decided yet which propertis will you be storing and which will you parse out of tags?
[07:22:35] 	 freakolowsky: by tomorrow
[07:22:42] 	 freakolowsky: yes
[07:22:46] 	 ok ql
[07:23:32] 	 freakolowsky: in page_props i am just storing the references to other pages,, and except that everything in the page
[07:24:01] 	 freakolowsky: i will show u the code tomorrow, then u can tell me if it needs any changes..
[07:24:15] 	 okie
[07:24:35] 	 seems you're making progress fast :D
[07:25:46] 	 freakolowsky: i have also made changes to my conventionextension page,, did u see that ?
[07:25:51] 	 freakolowsky: :|
[07:26:12] 	 freakolowsky: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Chughakshay16/ConventionExtension
[07:26:56] 	 yep i've seen that ... have that page watched :D
[07:27:11] 	 freakolowsky: okay :)
[07:27:53] 	 freakolowsky: i am using Wikipage->doEdit() to create new pages... is it the right way of doing it ?
[07:28:13] 	 freakolowsky: as it will make changes to other revision and log tables as well
[07:29:16] 	 yep i thing doEdit is the correct way 
[07:29:46] 	 freakolowsky: and for adding page_props i m directly doing it by dbw->insert()..
[07:34:21] 	 manual insert is fine so you don't have to rely on the parser for the initial state, but make sure you also insert props trough the tag parsing ... otherwise you will loose your state if by any chance action=purge is called or somone makes a custom edit to the page
[07:35:08] 	 also when inserting the tag into the page ... it would be prudent to add a "keep your paws away from this line" comment to the tag
[07:38:26] 	 freakolowsky: hi
[07:38:40] 	 yo
[07:41:02] 	 freakolowsky: okay, regarding the first one, why would we want to keep the state intact ?
[07:42:35] 	 freakolowsky: by tag parsing you mean the parsing when the page is rendered ... right ?
[07:42:43] 	 yes
[07:43:10] 	 freakolowsky: but at that moment i wont be having the values for the properties that i want to set in page_props
[07:45:23] 	 why not? we are talking about only the props related to the currend wikipage ... so when rendring i.e. conference wiki page all the values for pageprops for that page props should be present in the tag
[07:46:09] 	 so you don't have to handle pageprops of the whole logical conference, just the props of the rendered page
[07:46:24] 	 03netbrain *  10/trunk/extensions/Validator/includes/Validator.php: removed duplicate class property, fixed loop condition so it would enter loop.
[07:47:39] 	 freakolowsky: I mean at the time of rendering through parser hook I would be having only attribute values, but not the references that i would want to put into the page_props table...
[07:49:22] 	 well to make this thing work you'll just have to have such references duplicated so they'll be both in tag and props
[07:49:54] 	 for searching you'll use props and for editing the tag
[07:51:04] 	 are we reinventing semantic mediawiki here? :)
[07:51:32] 	 well nor realy ... just using a similar principle :D
[07:52:40] 	 freakolowsky: so even if I do that and add references in the tag attributes.. why would we be needing these values at the time of rendering.. ?
[07:52:50] 	 freakolowsky: i m definitely missing something here..:)
[07:53:17] 	 freakolowsky: I really wonder what those tags & properties are for 
[07:54:19] 	 freakolowsky: i only want the conference details when i am accessing a SpecialDashboardPage.. not otherwise
[07:54:45] 	 saper : for storing conference details :|
[07:54:49] 	 chughakshay16: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Page_props_table ... because of the third sentence :D 
[07:58:06] 	 freakolowsky: okayyyyy.. so everytime someone visits this page and makes an edit, all the page_props will be lost during that process.. and if after that I try to access these values from the database in a SpecialPage I wont get any.. 
[07:58:50] 	 ... unles you make sure there values can be rebuilt during the reparse process
[07:59:51] 	 freakolowsky: so how does it work for other wiki pages... ? do they also restore the values for action=purge or when an edit is done..?
[08:02:54] 	 yes this is the same for all pages
[08:03:36] 	 freakolowsky: will keep this is mind while developing parser hooks.. :|
[08:04:47] 	 03(NEW) Manage sudo per-project - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35850 normal; MediaWiki extensions: OpenStackManager; (rlane32)
[08:05:12] 	 yep ... just don't worry, it doesn't change your process in any way ... you just have to keep in mind that everything in page probs must be rebuildable out of the tag ...
[08:05:59] 	 freakolowsky: and the only way to have that is to put every prop value in tag definition itself..
[08:06:40] 	 freakolowsky: i mean to also keep references in the tag definition besides the page_props table..
[08:08:09] 	 yes ... remember the db index reference i gave you the other day ... all you have to do is think of page_props as a table index ... it'll speed up your search and linking, but the data itself must be in the tag itself
[08:09:54] 	 freakolowsky: yeah, i remember that.. one more thing will ParserOutput->getProperty() get me the value for the property ?
[08:11:44] 	 yes i think it should ... but i believe you have a similar method in Article class ... not sure tho
[08:12:55] 	 freakolowsky: okay so if this is true then i dont need to store the references in the tag... I can get the values from the function^^ 
[08:15:04] 	 nope ... beacuse in that stage they get invalidated and i don't think you'll be able to see them ... i'm guessing you're trying to just recreate properties from existing set
[08:16:06] 	 freakolowsky: yes thats why i asked you about that function, if it would be able to fetch me values...
[08:17:22] 	 hi, can anyone tell me what includes/HistoryBlog.php and do I really need to install the php mhash extension for MediaWiki to work?
[08:17:53] 	 includes/HistoryBlob.php
[08:18:30] 	 lo hashar  ... mon frère d'une autre mère :D
[08:18:40] 	 freakolowsky:  :-]]]
[08:18:43] 	 :D
[08:19:06] 	 freakolowsky: I am not sure "my brother from my another mother" can mean in your language. I guess it is cheerful :-]
[08:19:07] 	 \o/
[08:19:27] 	 "my brother from an other mother"
[08:19:31] 	 damn apple translator
[08:44:10] 	 03(NEW) test - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35851 critical; Wikimedia Tools: [Other]; (luciennebonnici)
[08:45:33] 	 New review: Hashar; "Looks fine. Try to get some basic unit tests too. I can assist you if needed." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4507
[08:53:02] 	 New review: Hashar; "This change seems to introduce several changes:" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/3497
[08:54:14] 	 03(mod) test - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35851  +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[08:54:54] 	 New patchset: IAlex; "Follow-up I5b02aa914916f64492c85ce6dcc3272b6406551a (#4335), also put a link in the debug toolbar." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4604
[08:55:44] 	 ialex: add the followup information as a third line :-D
[08:56:11] 	 New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4604
[08:57:08] 	 hashar: will remember
[08:59:28] 	 New review: Hashar; "Could you double check with Asher this is indeed not needed? The stats are published in graphite." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4602
[09:02:50] 	 hi - i am using dumpBackup.php right now. does it make sense to you that my xml output of my wiki (which includes several uploaded images) has the same size if i do use the --include-files parameter or not?
[09:03:06] 	 i would assume the xml file must be bigger if i add that parameter
[09:05:17] 	 fidel: Hi. you probably did not specify "--uploads" as well
[09:05:59] 	 fidel: adding "--uploads" gives you the upload tags. "--include-files" Tries to add the file data itself into the upload tags
[09:06:11] 	 ialex: j'ai édité le texte :-D
[09:06:16] 	 New patchset: Hashar; "make git revisions linked in the debug toolbar" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4604
[09:07:02] 	 New review: Hashar; "Patchset 2 is amending the commit message." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4604
[09:07:12] 	 qchris: right now i just used --current --include-files - gonna test your idea. i am pretty new to the dump function
[09:07:36] 	 New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4604
[09:09:11] 	 qchris: it had a small effect regarding the filesize - but i doubt it contains all the images now based on the small amount the file was growing
[09:09:29] 	 using --current --uploads --include-files
[09:09:35] 	 fidel: Are your content tags empty?
[09:09:58] 	 how would i check that?
[09:10:03] 	 fidel: probably PHP warnings, like file_get_contents(): Unable to find the wrapper "mwstore"
[09:10:18] 	 fidel: open the file in an editor and search for '	 seems like my output xml file does not contain a single line containing '	 fidel: you looked in the file that you generated with --uploads --include-files?
[09:12:49] 	 + --current ..Yes
[09:13:39] 	 fidel: But you do find something when looking for '' in the xml file?
[09:14:26] 	 yes
[09:14:51] 	 the xml file contains  tags
[09:15:23] 	 we are using mediawiki 1.15.1 right now - could that be a reason?
[09:15:37] 	 fidel: I am on current git version.
[09:15:50] 	 hehe
[09:15:55] 	 New review: Siebrand; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/TranslationNotifications] (master); V: 0 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4394
[09:16:08] 	 New review: Siebrand; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/TranslationNotifications] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4394
[09:16:08] 	 fidel: I'll check when it was introduced ...
[09:16:10] 	 Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/TranslationNotifications] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4394
[09:16:24] 	 thank you qchris 
[09:17:16] 	 fidel: Seems like this was added only around 1.17
[09:17:27] 	 fidel: :(
[09:17:52] 	 fidel: So dumpBackup.php will give you a xml dump of the data /without/ the actual uploads
[09:17:58] 	 the specific support for upload content?
[09:18:03] 	 fidel: So you'll have to dump them separately
[09:18:22] 	 or upgrade my mediawiki
[09:18:24] * badon  is very proud --> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Badon#HTML5_video_and_subtitles_widget
[09:18:25] 	 i guess
[09:18:48] 	 http://docs.doctrine-project.org/projects/doctrine-orm/en/latest/reference/faq.html#why-do-i-get-exceptions-about-unique-constraint-failures-during-em-flush
[09:18:49] 	 fidel: Updating to a supported MediaWiki version would be a good thing ;)
[09:19:04] 	 Blech, they throw atomicness out of the window?
[09:19:39] 	 fidel: But keep in mind that I could not find --include-files in the official documentation of how to dump a Wiki ;)
[09:19:59] 	 http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:DumpBackup.php
[09:20:05] 	 there i found it
[09:20:31] 	 the --include-files option
[09:21:12] 	 fidel: Yes. But pages like http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Backing_up_a_wiki do not mention it
[09:21:13] 	 From MediaWiki r105912
[09:21:31] 	 New review: Hashar; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4601
[09:21:33] 	 mh
[09:21:49] 	 now its getting confusing
[09:22:44] 	 fidel: importing xmldumps that contain uploaded data, you'll run into some code paths that are marked experimental. That's why I guess the most stable and error-proof way to do it is (as of now) to follow
[09:22:53] 	 fidel: pages like http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Backing_up_a_wiki
[09:23:49] 	 Maybe someone else can shed more light on this?
[09:24:18] 	 qchris: but this page doesnt lits the available parameters for dumpBackup - or am i overseeing something?
[09:24:38] 	 fidel: You are right, this pge does not list them.
[09:24:43] 	 hehe
[09:24:58] 	 fidel: But I am not sure whether --uploads and --include-files are yet ready for prime time.
[09:25:22] 	 puh
[09:25:42] 	 this isnt making my core-situation easier hehe
[09:25:48] 	 fidel: Use them. But check the resulting xml for obvious errors ... as you did already :D
[09:27:05] 	 so your advice would be - assuiming getting a full xml including images  to do as follows: update my current 1.15.1 wiki to 1.17 and then rerun dumpBackup.php and see if the xml then contains '	 fidel: Sadly enough. Yes. But someone more experienced ... or one of the core developers knows better than me.
[09:27:35] 	 fidel: I would not try to add the image data into the xml directly.
[09:27:46] 	 fidel: there are separate scripts to get the images
[09:28:07] 	 well - the background of that question is that i am trying to move that mediawiki content to a tikiwiki install
[09:28:19] 	 therefor i would need the images as well
[09:28:24] 	 I see.
[09:28:53] 	 But then upgrading to 1.17+ seems like a lot of overhead already :D
[09:29:00] 	 yep
[09:29:20] 	 Since you have to do the migration anyway ...
[09:29:20] 	 New patchset: IAlex; "There's no point calling Linker::link() if we have an invalid title." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4606
[09:29:26] 	 tikiwiki is able to import my .xml -- but right now i am missing my images
[09:29:40] 	 and re-adding them manually sounds like a lot of work & pain
[09:29:47] 	 oh ... ok.
[09:29:58] 	 I guess someone else has to help you.
[09:30:12] 	 My tikiwiki knowledge is ... well ... not existing
[09:30:37] 	 New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4606
[09:30:41] 	 Does tikiwiki give a procedure to migrate from MediaWiki?
[09:30:44] 	 i was quite happy with mediawiki until now --- but we need now some kind of permission-management
[09:31:26] 	 qchris: they have an importer script - you select import-type (wordpress & mediawiki currently) - select the xml file and configure 2-3 additional options - > press run -> done
[09:31:47] 	 looks pretty straight forwards
[09:33:10] 	 fidel: http://doc.tiki.org/MediaWiki%20importer says that you'll need the --uploads option (as I suggested above). So I suppose you want to upgrade to a more recent MediaWIki before migrating to tikiwiki :(
[09:33:51] 	 fidel: This page even goes into exporting/importing attachments/uploads
[09:35:01] 	 New code comment: Jeroen De Dauw; Hey, thanks for the fix. I actually just fixed this myself a few days ago, in the git repo. I'm rath; 
[09:40:18] 	 New review: Hashar; "I am all for abandoning this change. The reasons being:" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4312
[09:40:37] 	 hi Reedy - got a moment?
[09:41:05] 	 fidel: Rereading the page, it seems --uploads alone might do already. (without --include-files). The TikiWiki importer will try to download the uploads on it's own.
[09:41:18] 	 fidel: So you could try to do without upgrading
[09:42:03] 	 hi sumanah 
[09:42:08] 	 hi Katie_WMDE 
[09:42:42] 	 sumanah, Reedy or someone: is there place on the mediawiki wiki that explains how to setup extensions as submodules or however we're supposed to do that?
[09:42:56] 	 New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/3497
[09:43:20] 	 Katie_WMDE: When you say "submodule" I think that usually Chad or Sam is the one who actually sets up submodules within Git
[09:43:31] * Katie_WMDE  finds the documentation on the wiki confusing
[09:43:42] 	 sumanah: hmm...
[09:43:48] 	 Katie_WMDE: you've already looked at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/New_repositories and https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Conversion/Extensions_queue ?
[09:45:03] 	 Katie_WMDE: maybe you could send a note to wikitech-l?
[09:45:08] 	 sumanah: we do have a new extension, 
[09:45:09] 	 I'm up absurdly early for the US, right now
[09:45:10] 	 qchris: interesting - where did you get that info from?
[09:45:24] * Katie_WMDE  doesn't have anything to say on wikitech
[09:45:56] 	 in that case i would need only to make sure that the path info in the xml for my files are valid (localhost vs dns-name)
[09:46:18] 	 qchris: http://doc.tiki.org/MediaWiki%20importer 
[09:46:27] 	 fidel: http://doc.tiki.org/MediaWiki%20importer 
[09:46:36] 	 Katie_WMDE: the question you just asked me. :)
[09:46:37] 	 thanks
[09:46:58] 	 Katie_WMDE: I am suggesting this so that you can actually get an answer to your question. :)
[09:47:29] 	 fidel: Look for '--uploads' in that page. That'll bring you to the relevant paragraph
[09:48:05] 	 sumanah: it's easier to ask on irc
[09:48:17] 	 i'll wait for ^demon
[09:48:21] 	 Katie_WMDE: guess what
[09:48:30] 	 Katie_WMDE: I'm asking for you on wikitech-l
[09:48:36] 	 :(
[09:48:44] 	 unless you email yourself in the next half hour :)
[09:48:46] 	 New patchset: Hashar; "(bug 33658) support for {{GRAMMAR:}} in jqueryMsg" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4078
[09:49:00] 	 qchris: you have been a great help. thanks once again
[09:49:01] 	 hashar: ping re Katie_WMDE's issue
[09:49:14] 	 I would recommend the files get copied right out of the images directory
[09:49:16] 	 sumanah: i'll just figure it out and maybe document on the wiki
[09:49:17] 	 fidel: You're welcome. Hop it works out ;)
[09:49:18] 	 and not via dumpBackups
[09:49:24] 	 New review: Hashar; "Patchset 4 amend commit message (no rebase)." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4078
[09:49:29] 	 (I am just now seeing this conversation)
[09:49:35] 	 not sure why you're averse to asking on the list, katie, but do as you will :)
[09:49:53] 	 you can use maintenance/rebuildImages --missing to clean up after copying them over and importing the xml file
[09:49:53] 	 apergos: Yes, I suggested to not use bumpBackup.php for getting the files as well
[09:50:04] 	 New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4078
[09:50:05] 	 it is both quicker and safer
[09:50:19] 	 sumanah: the list is not helpful 
[09:50:40] 	 how can I contribute to mediawiki apart from developing extensions?
[09:50:47] 	 I'd be interested to hear more about that, Katie_WMDE, so I can help fix the problem
[09:50:54] 	 shakth: you can fix bugs
[09:50:58] 	 shakth: you can write unit tests
[09:51:03] * Katie_WMDE  will figure out the answer myself
[09:51:14] 	 and ask chad for help with our new extension
[09:51:19] 	 apergos: fidel wants to migrate to tikiwiki and tried to use dumpBackup.php to get everything in one file. Which is not the most stable approach ;)
[09:51:24] 	 apergos: thanks for the input as well. i'll test now if the tikiimporter is able to fetch the images itself - which it should according to the tiki docs
[09:51:35] 	 shakth: are those interesting to you?
[09:51:44] 	 Katie_WMDE: I seriously want to know how it is that the list isn't helpful
[09:51:53] 	 sumanah: yeah 
[09:51:58] 	 apergos: But it seems that trying this is onnecessary, as tikiwiki importer can do with --upload dumps (without --include-files).
[09:52:00] 	 Katie_WMDE: is it that you've asked questions there in the past and not gotten the answers you needed?
[09:52:11] 	 so it would be enough to dump on the mediawiki side with --uploads -> make sure the filepath in the xml is accessible - and throw that xml to tiki
[09:52:27] 	 qchris: apergos should i report back how it worked out?
[09:52:27] 	 !howto | shakth 
[09:52:28] 	 shakth: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_become_a_MediaWiki_hacker
[09:53:23] 	 sure, why not? 
[09:53:27] 	 fidel: Yes, that'd be nice.
[09:53:34] 	 ok
[09:53:36] 	 sumanah: but it's all about developing extensions
[09:53:49] 	 I haven't seen the tikiwiki stuff at all
[09:53:51] 	 im currently using svn for my development against wikimedia? should i switch to git?
[09:53:52] 	 shakth: Not quite :-) take a look at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Annoying_Little_Bug
[09:53:57] 	 netbrain: I suggest you do, yes
[09:54:12] 	 netbrain: it will make merging your code upstream far easier
[09:54:39] 	 Is there a guide on moving to git?
[09:54:54] 	 let's see 
[09:54:55] 	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git
[09:54:59] 	 i mean, i'm quite fluent in the ways of git, however, not in how mediawiki has integrated git
[09:55:06] 	 there's https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Download_from_Git
[09:55:31] 	 sumanah: i have already been on this page, but it seems i don't have git access as i can't login to the mediawiki labs site?
[09:55:40] 	 netbrain: you can get that easily - I can set it up for you
[09:55:53] 	 netbrain: just answer the questions at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developer_access
[09:56:16] 	 netbrain: either here in IRC or via a request on that page
[09:56:32] 	 netbrain: you can do an anonymous clone via git clone https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/p/mediawiki/core.git
[09:56:51] 	 sumanah: ok sweet! 
[09:57:01] 	 shakth: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Testing_portal will help you write unit tests
[09:57:04] 	 sumanah: is it ok if i PM you with my details?
[09:57:06] 	 we would love to have more unit tests
[09:57:08] 	 yes netbrain 
[09:58:13] 	 hashar: could you do me a favor and split that one commit into two yourself? I already wasted many hours on doing git stuff for these changes and am getting a bit tired of it
[09:59:29] 	 netbrain: you are set up! just go to https://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Access#Initial_log_in to get your temp password and log in
[10:00:00] 	 JeroenDeDauw: well it is all about using git add --interactive and write a nice commit message :D
[10:00:22] 	 JeroenDeDauw: though if you provide me with commit messages that introduces both changes, I will be glad to do the split myself :-)
[10:01:05] 	 hashar: it would be great if you could help Katie_WMDE - sounds like if she can't get help in IRC she is just going to try to go it alone regarding her git submodule issue
[10:01:07] 	 sumanah: thanks alot.
[10:01:11] 	 netbrain: glad to help
[10:01:13] 	 New patchset: IAlex; "Use local context to get messages" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4607
[10:01:19] 	 !events | netbrain 
[10:01:19] 	 netbrain: We run face-to-face events for MediaWiki developers and people who want to learn: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_developer_meetings We also have online meetings in IRC to triage bugs: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Bug_management/Triage
[10:01:50] 	 sumanah: sure :-]
[10:01:53] 	 sumanah: morning, by getting access on Labs I'm getting access to Gerrit, rigth?
[10:02:02] 	 morning davidpardz_ 
[10:02:03] 	 Yes
[10:02:05] 	 Katie_WMDE: ping me whenever you need any help with git :-D
[10:02:12] 	 thanks hashar 
[10:02:27] 	 Katie_WMDE: we can even arrange a conf call / skype chat if you want. Though not today since I am in a coworking place :-]
[10:02:34] 	 New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4607
[10:02:51] 	 03(mod) Enable DynamicPageList extension for Polish Wiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/11788  +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara)
[10:03:05] 	 hashar: i got my extensions working
[10:03:10] 	 how?
[10:03:14] 	 JeroenDeDauw: does it sounds like an accepting plan for you?  You write the introduction note about the two features and I do the git magic :-]
[10:03:15] 	 hashar: great!
[10:03:15] 	 * the style changes to the unit test thing: style improvements
[10:03:15] 	 * the formatDuration function and related messages: adding Language::formatDuration which allows formatting an amount of seconds to a human readable and internationalized string using units such as hours and minutes.
[10:03:15] 	 * CacheHelper changes: adding a CacheHelper object to facilitate caching several things on a single page and created implementations for SpecialPage and Action also containing scaffolding for things such as purging the cache.
[10:03:21] 	 sumanah: thank you
[10:03:32] 	 Katie_WMDE: \o/
[10:03:34] 	 hashar: i have one of my extensions on github and will need help moving it to gerrit, though
[10:03:43] 	 glad to help davidpardz_ -- https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Workflow#How_to_submit_a_patch
[10:04:04] 	 aside from the gerrit extension page, not sure how it all works to do that
[10:04:24] 	 JeroenDeDauw: great. Will handle that "soon"
[10:04:45] 	 hashar: awesome thnx
[10:05:25] 	 Change abandoned: Hashar; "Per discussion with Jeroen, I am going to split the change myself. He provided me with nice commit m..." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/3497
[10:05:26] * Katie_WMDE  wonders why our mediawiki wiki pages can't be so simple, well-organized and laid out as http://help.github.com/submodules/ and such
[10:06:11] 	 Katie_WMDE: moving code from github to gerrit is pretty simple. The first step though is to get a repository to be created in Gerrit
[10:06:23] 	 Katie_WMDE: ^demon can do it. He should connect there in roughly 2 hours. 
[10:07:08] 	 hashar: okay
[10:07:22] 	 it's not urgent but would be nice to do today maybe
[10:07:31] 	 you will have to poke ^demon
[10:07:35] 	 ok
[10:07:47] 	 hashar: thanks :)
[10:08:12] 	 then it is all about fetching the github repo on your computer, add the gerrit repo as a remote named "gerrit" and do something like:   git push origin/master gerrit/master
[10:08:19] 	 that would copy from github (named origin) to gerrit
[10:08:23] 	 *should*
[10:08:26] 	 sometime
[10:08:42] 	 or maybe ^demon can just copy the github repo directly in Gerrit
[10:10:55] 	 03(mod) Install the DynamicPageList2 extension on nl.wikibooks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/15477  +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara)
[10:11:38] 	 New review: GWicke; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4575
[10:11:40] 	 Change merged: GWicke; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4575
[10:12:44] 	 New patchset: GWicke; "Add some support for alignment of thumbs" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4608
[10:14:02] 	 New review: Siebrand; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4607
[10:14:05] 	 Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4607
[10:15:11] 	 hashar: sounds easy
[10:27:05] 	 03(NEW) Add a category to $wgArticleFeedbackBlacklistCategories for Portuguese Wikipedia to remove AFT from disambiguation pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35852 normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (mybugs.mail)
[10:27:31] 	 03(NEW) Set a non-empty default value for wmgArticleFeedbackBlacklistCategories on WMF wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35853 normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (mybugs.mail)
[10:30:10] * hashar  whishes back ticks could be parsed to 
[10:34:38] 	  is obsolete
[10:36:45] 	 New patchset: Netbrain; "applied patch from bug #34852" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4609
[10:37:03] 	 my first patch, so be gentle
[10:38:01] 	 New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4609
[10:38:58] 	 hm, i can see that indentations are not correct in my patch, how would i go ahead on updating the changeset? commit a new?
[10:39:36] 	 netbrain: no, use --amend to send a patchset 2 to the same change
[10:40:17] 	 mutante: ...but with review -R, right?
[10:40:29] * Duesentrieb  is still trying to get the hang of this
[10:40:58] 	 netbrain: if you go to gerrit, your change, there is a "Download" link you can copy/paste. starts with "git fetch .." , use that, make your changes, git commit --amend -a, then push-for-review...
[10:41:13] 	 Duesentrieb: <-- arr, well, that is my way before "git review" existed
[10:41:28] 	 netbrain: there is another way, using git review :p
[10:42:31] 	 mutante, netbrain: but iirc, you *have* to use -R after --amend, otherwise you screw up the change set. or so i was told
[10:42:51] 	 not sure who told me that... ^demon? saper? platonides? 
[10:42:57] 	 one of those guys, i guess
[10:43:09] 	 qchris: apergos -> it worked. as long as the tiki-instance can access the file-link from within the .xml file it automaticly imports them
[10:43:18] 	 so - my problem is solved ;)
[10:43:21] 	 netbrain: what i just said was how ops does it for puppet stuff. it might be better if you follow these instructions  http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Workflow#Amend_your_change
[10:43:35] 	 nice!!
[10:43:39] 	 fidel: Great. Thanks for reporting back.
[10:43:52] 	 mutante: thanks
[10:43:59] 	 Duesentrieb: git review -d  it was
[10:44:25] 	 mutante: the instructions you just linekd to say -R
[10:44:50] 	 yea, to push the change, and -d to get an existing change to --amend to it
[10:45:02] 	 ah, right
[10:45:34] 	 New review: Siebrand; "Please update the commit summary to be more descriptive." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4609
[10:51:39] 	 New patchset: Netbrain; "applied patch from bug #34852" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4609
[10:52:57] 	 New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4609
[10:54:22] 	 03(mod) Allow for  thumbnail links to be overridden and point to both internal and external links. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34852  (10kim)
[10:55:42] 	 bye
[10:55:59] 	 New review: ArielGlenn; "skippedNamespace() true doesn't indicate an error fwiw." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4530
[11:02:32] 	 03(mod) Proofread Page extension setup in Bengali Wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35629   +shell (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[11:02:53] 	 New review: Netbrain; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4609
[11:05:37] 	 how can i add my extension to gerrit?
[11:06:04] 	 or is this a global activity in progress?
[11:07:09] 	 New review: GWicke; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4608
[11:07:12] 	 Change merged: GWicke; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4608
[11:07:43] 	 03(FIXED) Mail confirmation code failure - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35848  +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[11:08:24] 	 03(mod) Manage sudo per-project - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35850  normal->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[11:20:38] 	 03(mod) Install ConfirmAccount extension on Wikimedia wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/13782   +design; +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara)
[11:21:43] 	 03(NEW) LCStore_DB cache is not refreshed on action=purge - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35854 normal; MediaWiki: Internationalization; (questpc)
[11:45:35] 	 03(mod) noc.wikimedia.org should support HTTPS - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/23004  +comment (10Daniel Zahn)
[11:46:57] 	 hi bianca 
[11:50:28] 	 New review: QChris; "The patch does not do any harm, but also does not improve importing:" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4530
[11:57:45] 	 03(mod) LCStore_DB cache is not refreshed on action=purge - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35854  +comment (10Niklas Laxström)
[12:01:39] 	 New patchset: Siebrand; "Fix typo in 'filereadonlyerror'." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4623
[12:02:25] 	 New review: Siebrand; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4623
[12:02:28] 	 Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4623
[12:02:57] 	 New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4623
[12:07:32] 	 Hello. I was hoping someone could tell me if there is a version of Live Preview or an extension with equivalent function that is currently working for MW 1.18
[12:21:59] 	 Alternatively, is there a software that can be used to edit mediawiki-formatted articles that has a live preview function?
[12:32:08] 	 03(mod) Provide extension for easy usergroup gatekeeping by email - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33661  -easy  (10Siebrand)
[12:57:22] 	 New code comment: ^demon; This has now been resolved.; 
[13:01:16] 	 New patchset: Reedy; "Normalise categorymembers to take ascending/descending for direction, also adding newer/older to make it like other modules" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4624
[13:02:33] 	 New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4624
[13:05:40] 	 03(mod) web management somewhat broken for new (pediapress?) instance - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35730  (10Peter Bena)
[13:06:47] 	 New review: Demon; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/OAI] (master); V: 0 C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4557
[13:07:13] 	 New patchset: Reedy; "Add some spacing" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4625
[13:07:16] 	 14(INVALID) web management somewhat broken for new (pediapress?) instance - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35730  +comment (10Peter Bena)
[13:07:18] 	 ping ^demon 
[13:07:29] <^demon>	 Hi Katie_WMDE, what's up?
[13:07:53] 	 ^demon: i have an extension on github and need to move it to gerrit
[13:08:04] 	 here's something curious -- gerrit won't let me delete feature branches:
[13:08:05] 	 git push origin :11_data-view
[13:08:05] 	 To ssh://johlig@gerrit.wikimedia.org:29418/mediawiki/extensions/WikidataRepo.git ! [remote rejected] 11_data-view (prohibited by Gerrit)
[13:08:08] 	 error: failed to push some refs to 'ssh://johlig@gerrit.wikimedia.org:29418/mediawiki/extensions/WikidataRepo.git'
[13:08:09] 	 trying to figure out what to do
[13:08:32] 	 New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4625
[13:09:31] 	 03(mod) Create a welcome page for new users, for when they initially log in - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35210  +comment (10Peter Bena)
[13:09:39] <^demon>	 Jens_WMDE: Direct pushes aren't allowed to gerrit. The easiest way to delete the branch is through the gerrit UI.
[13:09:48] 	 i see
[13:09:54] <^demon>	 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#admin,project,mediawiki/extensions/WikidataRepo,branches
[13:10:10] 	 ^demon: we need git-review for our extensions?
[13:10:25] <^demon>	 No, but it makes the process a bit easier.
[13:10:36] 	 03(ASSIGNED) Create a welcome page for new users, for when they initially log in - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35210  (10Peter Bena)
[13:11:15] <^demon>	 Nobody *has* to use git review, but it makes setting up the commit hook much easier.
[13:11:26] 	 ^demon: thank you very much, that did the trick!
[13:11:38] <^demon>	 You're welcome.
[13:11:44] 	 03(mod) accommodate project-specific puppet git branches - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35737  (10Peter Bena)
[13:12:26] <^demon>	 Katie_WMDE: I'm kind of busy so I probably won't be creating new repositories today. If you could put the request on  so it's recorded when I make the next batch of them.
[13:12:50] 	 ^demon: we have a repository apparently
[13:12:52] 	 it's empty
[13:13:01] <^demon>	 Ah, which repository?
[13:13:23] 	 Wikihttps://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?p=mediawiki/extensions/WikidataClient.git
[13:13:26] 	 hi ^demon
[13:13:37] 	 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?p=mediawiki/extensions/WikidataClient.git
[13:14:02] <^demon>	 Ah ok, so you're wanting to import the history from your existing clone into gerrit now? That's easy, we can do that.
[13:14:44] 	 ^demon: yes
[13:14:47] <^demon>	 Actually, I started history there because DanielW_wmde said there wasn't really any history to import.
[13:14:49] 	 i'm not sure how to do it
[13:14:54] <^demon>	 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?p=mediawiki%2Fextensions%2FWikidataClient.git;a=shortlog;h=HEAD
[13:15:02] <^demon>	 He said you guys were just going to copy the files in.
[13:15:12] 	 ok
[13:15:17] 	 i can do that
[13:15:18] 	 i think
[13:15:27] <^demon>	 Yeah, you should be able to clone the repository.
[13:15:37] 	 just clone it, copy the files in and git review ?
[13:16:20] 	 Add them, commit -a and git review
[13:16:26] 	 Katie_WMDE: add another remote pointing to gerrit and push :)
[13:16:51] <^demon>	 Direct pushes aren't allowed.
[13:17:08] <^demon>	 And without a -f, it won't work since it'd be rewriting history.
[13:17:13] 	 wouldn't for/master work?
[13:17:15] 	 somehow there is a build directory there now
[13:17:22] 	 03(mod) Browser error message received when accessing namespace pages that don't yet exist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33275  (10nesmicroscopy)
[13:17:36] * saper  goes back to the corner.
[13:17:58] <^demon>	 Oh, for/master would work yeah. I thought you mean just a `git push origin master`
[13:18:41] 	 it might even create a nice chain of commits if one is lucy
[13:18:44] 	 lucky
[13:19:08] 	 here it goes
[13:19:51] 	  ! [remote rejected] HEAD -> refs/for/master/master (invalid committer)
[13:19:55] 	 huh?
[13:20:14] <^demon>	 Try `git review -v` and pastebin the full output please.
[13:20:25] 	 ok
[13:20:31] 	 am i not in the project?
[13:20:39] 	 you are illegal
[13:20:44] <^demon>	 Everyone should be able to push-for-review :)
[13:20:48] <^demon>	 It's part of the magic!
[13:21:34] 	 ah, i think it's simple
[13:21:49] 	 New review: Siebrand; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4625
[13:21:52] 	 Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4625
[13:23:29] 	 New review: Siebrand; "Because Amir is on leave, I've asked Niklas to fix this." [mediawiki/extensions/TranslationNotifications] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4064
[13:23:48] 	 my github config info is getting mixed up with my gerrit info
[13:25:16] <^demon>	 What does `git remote -v` show you?
[13:25:43] 	 committer email .... does not match your user account.
[13:26:00] 	 i need to recommit maybe
[13:29:42] 	 New patchset: Aude; "initial commit" [mediawiki/extensions/WikidataClient] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4626
[13:29:48] 	 it worked!
[13:29:54] <^demon>	 :D
[13:30:04] 	 mind you the code is ugly
[13:30:11] 	 and we're just starting
[13:30:32] 	 how do we review it?
[13:30:57] 	 Visit the link the bot posted
[13:31:01] 	 there is a review button :)
[13:31:02] 	 ok
[13:31:11] 	 You can also do inline commenting
[13:31:27] 	 New review: Aude; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/WikidataClient] (master); V: 1 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4626
[13:31:40] <^demon>	 You're usually going to want to look at the "Side-by-Side" diffs, they're more useful than the Unified ones
[13:31:48] 	 ok
[13:31:52] <^demon>	 Duesentrieb: Katie_WMDE made her first commit :)
[13:32:01] 	 :)
[13:32:06] 	 ugly ugly
[13:32:20] 	 for the client extension?
[13:32:24] 	 awesome!
[13:32:25] 	 the pretty code belongs to Nikola
[13:32:30] 	 Duesentrieb: yes
[13:32:38] <^demon>	 !g 4626
[13:32:38] 	 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4626
[13:35:23] 	 New review: Aude; "the code is ugly, but it's a start of something wonderful" [mediawiki/extensions/WikidataClient] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4626
[13:35:25] 	 Change merged: Aude; [mediawiki/extensions/WikidataClient] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4626
[13:35:34] 	 :)
[13:39:52] 	 03demon *  10/trunk/tools/make-wmf-branch/make-wmf-branch: Syntax error, whoops
[13:40:30] 	 03(mod) "Deleting comment" link doesn't work for Comments extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34345  +comment (10Edward)
[13:41:38] 	 03(NEW) Min and max parameters are treated incorrectly in AllCategories when sorting in reverse - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35855 normal; MediaWiki: API; (gsvick)
[13:42:40] 	 Hi friends, i'm trying to create a "Template" that creates a 'header' (===XX===) and also insert a "reference".
[13:42:41] 	 The usage would be "{{teste|name=""|ref=""}}.
[13:42:41] 	 On my template i've done this: "==={{{name}}}==={{{ref}}}". It almos work fine, except that on the  section just appear {{{ref}}} and not the content that would appear.
[13:43:28] 	 this is the template: http://cadernoteca.polignu.org/wiki/Predefinição:BenchEstruturaCurso
[13:43:29] 	 And this is an example: http://cadernoteca.polignu.org/wiki/Usuário:Diraol/teste
[13:48:34] 	 03(mod) Min and max parameters are treated incorrectly in AllCategories when sorting in reverse - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35855  +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[13:52:04] 	 Ok, I am getting very annoyed with mediawiki for the fact that I can't even begin the install... The first page when navigating to http:\\localhost\mediawiki\ gives me "LocalSettings.php not found." then if i click the link to complete installation i get the error: "The specified CGI application misbehaved by not returning a complete set of HTTP headers." This is on windows server 2003
[13:52:11] 	 any help is appriciated.
[13:56:28] 	 dschuett, any clue in the php error log?
[13:59:02] 	 New patchset: Hashar; "CacheHelper: facilitate caching handling on a page" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4628
[13:59:19] 	 New patchset: Hashar; "duration formatter, makes time in sec easy to read" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4629
[13:59:32] 	 New patchset: Hashar; "change double quotes to single quotes" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4630
[14:00:21] 	 New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4628
[14:00:46] 	 03(mod) Min and max parameters are treated incorrectly in AllCategories when sorting in reverse - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35855  +comment (10Svick)
[14:01:05] 	 I'm installing two mediawikis on one server so I can have separate language sections. The install for both wikis was fine. Now I'm having trouble with reconfiguring LocalSettings. Can anyone help?
[14:01:35] 	 New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4629
[14:02:48] 	 New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4630
[14:02:56] 	 New review: Hashar; "Split in 3 new changes:" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/3497
[14:03:19] 	 JeroenDeDauw: I have split change 3497 (format duration, cache helper + quotes) in three new changes.
[14:03:37] 	 New patchset: Nikerabbit; "New MessageIndex backends: database and cdb" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4631
[14:03:38] 	 New patchset: Nikerabbit; "Avoid TranslateUtils::messageKeyToGroups in MessageHandle" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4632
[14:05:05] 	 hashar: awesome, thnx!
[14:05:35] 	 JeroenDeDauw: the log of my session is at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Gerrit/split_a_submitted_change
[14:05:59] 	 JeroenDeDauw: need to make it easier to read though
[14:06:10] 	 hashar: neat :)
[14:09:15] 	 New review: Hashar; "Just like https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4312, I would prefer we do not submit quotes changing. They..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4630
[14:09:56] 	 ^demon: do we have any policy about commits that just changes quotes around?
[14:10:06] 	 ^demon: I do not like them since that makes git blame harder to use
[14:10:12] 	 and offer no perf improvements usually
[14:11:39] <^demon>	 I don't know of any firm rules other than "micro-optimization is usually a waste of time."
[14:12:09] <^demon>	 I'm all for reformatting code to bring it up to style guidelines, but changing quotes around seems kind of pointless.
[14:13:22] <^demon>	 The one exception is HTML tags. I think using " consistently looks nicer.
[14:15:18] 	 New review: Reedy; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/ConfirmEdit] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4588
[14:15:20] 	 Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions/ConfirmEdit] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4588
[14:18:56] 	 ^demon: I have -2 two quoting changes https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4312 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4630  . Would love a second guess :-D
[14:18:56] 	 03schuellersa *  10/trunk/extensions/SolrStore/solr-example/core0/conf/schema.xml:
[14:18:56] 	 Bugfix -
[14:18:56] 	 field category is multivalue
[14:18:57] 	 edit dynamicFuield types to float and multivalue
[14:19:12] 	 ^demon: either abandon or merge them :-]  both apply cleanly.
[14:19:36] <^demon>	 I've got about 80 more important things to do than bikeshed over quotes right now :)
[14:19:44] 	 :-]]]]]]]]
[14:20:20] 	 New review: Siebrand; "Looks fine to me. Guess we'll just have to start using it at twn?" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master); V: 0 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4631
[14:22:00] 	 03schuellersa *  10/trunk/extensions/SolrStore/SolrDoc.php:
[14:22:00] 	 Bugfix -
[14:22:00] 	 looks like the same Error as Error on attribute value & #13; and & lt;
[14:22:00] 	 String Replaces for the Field Value and remove '<' and '>'.
[14:23:25] 	 03schuellersa *  10/trunk/extensions/SolrStore/SpecialSolrSearch.php:
[14:23:26] 	 Bugfix - closing Table
[14:23:26] 	 skin / sidebar
[14:26:00] 	 siebrand: are you going to merge it?
[14:26:59] 	 03(mod) Min and max parameters are treated incorrectly in AllCategories when sorting in reverse - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35855  +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[14:27:57] 	 We used to have SVN autoprops on API modules - what's the deal now we have GIT?
[14:28:24] 	 NOTHING!
[14:28:44] 	 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33287
[14:30:01] 	 Reedy: fancy having look at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4631 ?
[14:30:11] 	 hexmode: ping :-)
[14:30:52] 	 03(mod) Cite fails to properly respect CITE_DEFAULT_GROUP - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35675  +comment (10Platonides)
[14:33:20] 	 03(mod) MobileFrontend beta search box on Firefox Mobile - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32081  +comment (10Jon)
[14:36:59] 	 anyone ever seen this error when installing mediawiki on windows server 2003? http://pastie.org/private/ziucs8xzdtnafqlxuym6q
[14:38:46] 	 looks like it has also been discussed here: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Thread:Project:Support_desk/Installation_of_V_1.18.2_stopps_while_creating_%22secret_key%22 but no fix...
[14:38:55] 	 Dantman: ^^
[14:39:11] 	 Windows isn't apparently random enough
[14:39:34] 	 dschuett: what version of PHP?
[14:40:26] 	 old php versions could block trying to gather entropy
[14:40:59] 	 specially when it was a server (there isn't a user logged in)
[14:42:29] 	 New patchset: GWicke; "Improve template tokenization in template arguments" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4634
[14:43:00] 	 how do  i  change the permitted file types from png, gif, jpg, jpeg. to png, gif, jpg, jpeg, mp3, txt, PHP
[14:43:05] 	 !FILE
[14:43:05] 	 http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/attachment.cgi?id=`e1&action=diff
[14:43:30] 	 !permittedfiletypes
[14:43:31] 	 I don't know anything about "permittedfiletypes".
[14:43:45] 	 I wonder if mcrypt_create_iv suffers the same problems openssl_random_pseudo_bytes had
[14:43:54] 	 dschuett, which php version?
[14:44:47] 	 !png
[14:44:47] 	 I don't know anything about "png". You might try: !colon !imagelink 
[14:44:59] 	 !imagelink
[14:44:59] 	 In MW1.14+: you can use the new 'link' parameter [[Image:Foo.png|link=Bar]] | Before that, image linking was intentionally not supported in MediaWiki, so access to the image's description page was always available. If you need image links, see  for methods and information.
[14:45:14] 	 no, still
[14:46:12] 	 !wg FileExtensions | pokeswap
[14:46:12] 	 pokeswap: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgFileExtensions
[14:46:23] 	 Reedy, Platonides: 5.3.3
[14:47:09] 	 thanks
[14:47:12] 	 openssl_random_pseudo_bytes could create that kind of problem in Windows on versions lower than 5.3.4, maybe mhash is also affected :/
[14:47:27] 	 try disabling mhash extension
[14:47:47] 	 or  change the if ( function_exists(..) )  to  if ( false && function_exists(...
[14:48:04] 	 in case you have more luck there
[14:48:53] 	 for windows that means insecure random generation though :/
[14:49:30] 	 There are some files in the core using "@file" for doxygen, before I saw "@file " more often, what would be right to use?
[14:52:32] 	 New review: GWicke; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4634
[14:52:35] 	 Change merged: GWicke; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4634
[14:55:07] 	 New patchset: Hashar; "There's no point calling Linker::link() if we have an invalid title." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4606
[14:55:08] 	 Platonides: well adding if false && function_exists(... worked but what exactly do you mean by "insecure random generation" ??
[14:55:34] 	 New review: Nikerabbit; "It doesn't hurt either." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4606
[14:56:24] 	 New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Failed " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: -1 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4606
[14:56:43] 	 03(mod) Mobile header expanding and menu don't work until page loads - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30985  +comment (10Jon)
[14:58:06] 	 New review: Hashar; "Patchset 2 add a test reflecting what we have in master before this change. Basically, an invalid ti..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4606
[15:03:07] 	 Hello, im having some trouble with SocialBookmarking specifically AddThis on Mediawiki...i have an image on a page, i share that page and the image does not appear..is this facebook related or Mediawiki related
[15:03:22] 	 the APi is setup fine so its making me think its not recognizing that there is an image on the page.
[15:07:01] 	 ^demon: so what do you suggest we do? wait for the upgrade or start a new repo and copy the stuff over?
[15:07:27] 	 I need some of that Jimmy's face money... http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Eqiadwmf_9045.jpg
[15:08:41] <^demon>	 JeroenDeDauw: Well if you make a new reop and copy it over you'll still have the old abandoned repo. With 2.3, we'll at least be able to mark the old one as HIDDEN so it won't show up in lists.
[15:08:59] <^demon>	 But if the rename needs to happen *right now* for some reason, I guess we can accommodate that.
[15:10:22] 	 New patchset: QChris; "Adding temp file/dir management to MediaWikiTestCase" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4637
[15:10:23] 	 New patchset: QChris; "Employing MediaWikiTestCase's temporary file methods" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4638
[15:11:43] 	 New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4637
[15:12:55] 	 New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4638
[15:14:52] 	 On which database entry are all the pages stored?
[15:14:53] 	 And their information
[15:16:17] 	 ^demon: it does not need to happen _now_, but it'd be good if this happened within the next week or two. When do we expecdt to have 2.3?
[15:16:48] <^demon>	 I'd like to have it in 2-3 weeks, at most.
[15:16:59] <^demon>	 I'd like to have the dev install upgraded by the end of the week.
[15:17:13] <^demon>	 alex-: The `page` table.
[15:17:29] 	 #1033 - Incorrect information in file: './alex_remiwiki/page.frm'
[15:17:32] 	 #1 - Can't create/write to file '/tmp/#sql_7cc7_0.MYI' (Errcode: 13) 
[15:17:34] 	 Oops
[15:18:13] 	 New patchset: Nikerabbit; "Avoid PHP Notices in Translate from messages.inc" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4640
[15:18:17] 	 any way to fix this?
[15:18:53] 	 CentralNotice is used for fundraising banners correct?
[15:19:23] <^demon>	 Lcawte: Yes
[15:19:30] 	 New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4640
[15:20:00] <^demon>	 alex-: I'm not sure offhand. Google points me to http://www.vancelucas.com/blog/mysql-error-1033-incorrect-information-in-file/
[15:20:06] 	 Hmm, now I just need to find some PD/CC pictures of Jimmy's face and setup a paypal account, and let the cash role in...
[15:20:46] <^demon>	 Yeah I have a feeling your banners would be done and meta would permaban you before you got too much money from that one.
[15:20:48] 	 03(mod) UI polish for full-screen search on mobile site - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34233  normal->15enhancement (10Jon)
[15:20:52] <^demon>	 s/done/down/
[15:21:06] 	 New patchset: L10n-bot; "Translation updates from translatewiki.net" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4641
[15:21:20] <^demon>	 Maybe not permaban, but certainly take away CentralNotice permissions ;-)
[15:22:25] 	 New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4641
[15:23:18] 	 Who needs WMF money, I have Jimmy's face, and I have the path to the git checkout for MediaWiki ^.^
[15:23:34] 	 I'm sure spammers would donate money... if it meant keeping their spam grounds up :P
[15:24:19] 	 03(mod) LG220CM is not seeing search (go) button when loading any pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31666  +comment (10Jon)
[15:24:42] 	 The only place I have permissions other than rollback on the WMF servers is mw.org btw :)
[15:24:48] 	 Where I have sysop
[15:24:56] 	 ok, guillom & hexmode - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?p=mediawiki/core.git;a=blob;f=RELEASE-NOTES-1.20;h=0e8cdc09e6163154a6182e301a37aebdb244cc41;hb=refs/heads/master is the 1.20 release notes
[15:25:17] 	 New review: Reedy; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4641
[15:25:19] 	 Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4641
[15:27:08] 	 sumanah, guillom: starting in on it
[15:30:50] 	 #1033 - Incorrect information in file: './alex_remiwiki/page.frm' 
[15:31:01] 	 thanks Mark
[15:31:14] 	 New review: Reedy; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4640
[15:31:17] 	 Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4640
[15:32:47] 	 can someone write down how i can get in contact with the webmaster for: http://www.arl.wustl.edu
[15:35:10] 	 Re-read http://hackdaymanifesto.com/ ... might be interesting to see how much of that I actually did well for Brighton, and how much I can improve on for London if it happens. /me goes back to kicking wH code
[15:36:18] 	 Guest9786: one of those persons, maybe? http://wiki.arl.wustl.edu/index.php?title=Publications_2005-2009&action=history http://wiki.arl.wustl.edu/index.php/User:Ken_Wong 
[15:36:43] 	 Guest9786: http://wiki.arl.wustl.edu/index.php?title=Special:Listusers <-- pretty much everyone
[15:37:42] 	 Change abandoned: Reedy; "(no reason)" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4630
[15:38:42] 	 Guest9786: http://wiki.arl.wustl.edu/index.php/People some RL contacts
[15:41:42] 	 Quick question
[15:41:53] 	 If an admin full-protects a users JS script, with the target user not being admin
[15:42:22] 	 Will that user still be able to edit their own JS script?
[15:43:30] 	 03(NEW) Enable categorytree tag on spanish wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35856 normal; Wikimedia: Extension setup; (pdsanchez)
[15:45:37] 	 hi there kevin_brown 
[15:52:09] 	 hi ashish_d 
[15:53:16] 	 guillom: you may find https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_1.20/Roadmap useful as a place to store info
[15:54:11] 	 03(NEW) Please upload 8 videos supported by Wikimedia France - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35857 normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (adrienne.alix)
[15:55:18] 	 Hmm, ok, where do I find out what all the 'wf' functions do... the one I'm looking for doesn't return anything on mw.org, there's nothing in svn.wm.o/doc though, to be fair its a (1.14) if anything, is there a document in the release itself that talks about them?
[15:57:41] 	 sumanah, Howdy
[15:58:29] 	 03(mod) Please upload 8 videos supported by Wikimedia France - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35857  +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[15:58:30] 	 ashish_d: how are things going?  have you already started the process for moving your GitHub work (on Wikimedia projects) to our Git/Gerrit system?
[15:58:32] 	 Yes hi, I've got a question about my wiki, I'm hosting it behind a NAT, and there's multiple network interfaces on it, and the hostname of the server is something that doesn't resolve, how can I change $wgServer to be something that will work on multiple addresses?
[15:59:13] 	 Right now, it's $wgServer           = "http://noodle-server";     but whenever I enter any IP and try to do something, the wiki redirects me to http://noodle-server/  instead of whatever IP i use
[16:00:46] 	 you'll need to set it dynamically based on something in $_SERVER i guess
[16:00:49] 	 sumanah, I've set 12th this month as the date for starting that work, I have to also get back to amending a pull request to WikipediaMobile, just waiting for stupid midterms to end
[16:01:06] 	 ashish_d: understood! just wanted to check whether anything was blocking you.
[16:02:01] 	 Reedy: do you know the php value for that?
[16:02:15] 	 $_SERVER['something']
[16:02:45] 	 http://php.net/manual/en/reserved.variables.server.php
[16:04:07] 	 Reedy: hey there release manager :-) 
[16:04:50] 	 New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "I thought single quotes had a slight performance advantage since PHP does not need to look for embed..." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4630
[16:04:53] 	 Reedy: heads-up: Mark and Guillaume are working on https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_1.20 today so that Guillaume can start getting the word out to Wikimedia communities who will experience the 1.20 deployment on Monday.
[16:04:57] 	 sumanah, I had an issue with remote port 29418 not being accessible, but somehow managed to get over it, but in the long run I would really want 29418 should be something like 22 or atleast some forwarding mechanism should be in place so that Gerrit can be accessed through 22
[16:05:26] 	 ashish_d: good to know - would you mind quickly filing a bug about that and cc'ing Chad?  Top-level product is Wikimedia, component is Git/Gerrit
[16:05:42] 	 ashish_d: sounds like some kind of workaround there would help many people
[16:05:46] 	 hmm, Thanks Reedy, would I just drop the php variable into the "x" or n?
[16:05:47] 	 sumanah, I think there is a related bug to this
[16:05:55] 	 03(mod) LCStore_DB cache is not refreshed on action=purge - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35854  +comment (10Dmitriy Sintsov)
[16:07:07] 	 noodle: $wgServer = $_SERVER['SERVER_NAME']; or something
[16:07:43] 	 New patchset: Nikola Smolenski; "At least something in README" [mediawiki/extensions/WikidataRepo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4643
[16:07:44] 	 14(DUP) MobileFrontend has no link to activate the beta functions unless you read blog.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32148  +comment (10Jon)
[16:07:47] 	 03(mod) Beta opt-in and opt-out links on mobile site - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34232  +comment (10Jon)
[16:07:52] 	 mmk, 
[16:08:18] 	 03(mod) Beta opt-in and opt-out links on mobile site - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34232  (10Jon)
[16:08:34] 	 Damnit, I broke the entire thing, now it just serves a 404
[16:09:16] 	 Reedy: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_1.20/Roadmap -- is that status correct?
[16:09:55] 	 hmm
[16:10:03] 	 Oh coool
[16:10:04] 	 lol
[16:10:07] 	 Reedy: thanks a lot
[16:10:08] 	 :3
[16:10:14] 	 i typed the url wrong
[16:10:16] 	 Did that work?
[16:10:16] 	 lol
[16:10:19] 	 it works fine
[16:10:27] 	 Though, looking at the code, you shouldn't need that
[16:10:38] 	 Reedy: what do you want to do about the two 1.19 tarball blockers?
[16:10:38] 	 noodle: did you have $wgServer = something else in your LocalSettings.php already?
[16:10:59] 	 Reedy: ship anyway or should I really try to get them fixed?
[16:11:25] 	 Reedy: it was the default, it detected the wgserver by the systems hostname, which is "noodle-server"; that doesnt resovle anywhere, 
[16:11:30] 	 03(mod) LCStore_DB cache is not refreshed on action=purge - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35854  +comment (10Dmitriy Sintsov)
[16:11:45] 	 In trunk at least... the dynamic code should owrk
[16:11:54] 	 So it would redirect everything to http://noodle-server/wiki/*
[16:11:57] 	 $wgServer = WebRequest::detectServer();
[16:12:03] 	 Change abandoned: Krinkle; "(no reason)" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4312
[16:12:19] 	 hexmode: when is 1.19 going to be out?
[16:12:25] 	 hexmode: what are they?
[16:12:37] 	 does anyone know of a good WYSIWYG editor for mediawiki 1.18.2?
[16:13:13] 	 Reedy: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34885 and https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35046
[16:13:25] 	 03(mod) Please upload 8 videos supported by Wikimedia France - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35857  +comment (10Adrienne Alix)
[16:13:29] 	 saper: this is what we're talking about now ;)
[16:13:35] 	 New review: Demon; "@Jeroen: If you're working on code in a performance-critical area--sure using single quotes is proba..." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4630
[16:14:02] 	 so now, Reedy, that I changed it to $_SERVER["HTTP_HOST"] it will work fine and not change the host that the browser is using to access it
[16:14:41] 	 03(mod) LCStore_DB cache is not refreshed on action=purge - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35854  +comment (10Niklas Laxström)
[16:14:49] 	 hexmode: you scare me :) I'm not ready with pgsql installer stuff :-(
[16:14:56] 	 Change merged: Nikola Smolenski; [mediawiki/extensions/WikidataRepo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4643
[16:14:58] 	 sumanah, https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35611 this is pretty much related
[16:15:06] 	 03(mod) LCStore_DB cache is not refreshed on action=purge - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35854  +comment (10Niklas Laxström)
[16:15:35] 	 saper: well, it looks like we're moving to a faster release cycle, so 1.20 awaits :)
[16:15:45] 	 ashish_d: you should add yourself to cc on that, then
[16:16:08] 	 we are moving to a much faster deployment cycle, saper, but our release cycle will not accelerate as fast, if that makes sense
[16:16:12] 	 hexmode: is it a day? two? or tonight?
[16:16:37] 	 03(mod) Disparity between submit clicktracking events and AFTv5 records created - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35590  +comment (10Reha Sterbin)
[16:16:54] 	 saper: probably not tonight
[16:16:57] <^demon>	 saper: What's the status on the changes you have pushed to master pending review?
[16:17:09] 	 sumanah: I'm talking about release, since updater changes for postgresql don't affect wikimedia at all, but will help all those reporting bugs relative to 1.18.x ("can you try our brand new 1.19?")
[16:17:18] 	 New patchset: Nikola Smolenski; "This if should not be an elseif, since  can be changed in the preceding if" [mediawiki/extensions/Interlanguage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4644
[16:17:30] 	 ^demon: need to fix mostly whitespace nitpicking by reviewers
[16:17:43] <^demon>	 We can work on getting 3365 rebased today perhaps.
[16:18:10] 	 This has merge conflicts, needs to be rebased to current origin/master and reuploaded. I'm not quite sure how to resolve the conflicts myself as I'm not sure what this pg code does exactly.
[16:18:23] 	 would be cool
[16:18:42] 	 If I kick out some superurgent stuff for today out of the door, I'll join the effort
[16:18:43] <^demon>	 Lemme see
[16:18:58] 	 New review: Nikola Smolenski; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Interlanguage] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4644
[16:19:00] 	 Change merged: Nikola Smolenski; [mediawiki/extensions/Interlanguage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4644
[16:19:11] 	 03(mod) Clean up current images with wrong SHA1 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34755  +comment (10Mormegil)
[16:20:33] 	 New review: Nikerabbit; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master); V: 1 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4631
[16:20:36] 	 Change merged: Nikerabbit; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4631
[16:23:44] <^demon>	 Hmm, just conflicts in DatabasePostgres and PostgresUpdater.
[16:24:13] 	 3962 and 3977 need merging too... (3977 some bolts from brion, minor stuff)
[16:26:36] 	 i have a file set to  http://pastebin.com/9uxXUf11
[16:27:02] 	 and http://spyinginc.com/wiki/index.php?title=Evaluate1 can still include the spy_files namespace
[16:27:21] 	 03(NEW) redirectToFragment shouldn't use legacy javascript - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35858 normal; MediaWiki: Redirects; (paul.copperman)
[16:27:21] 	 03(mod) Set $wgIncludeLegacyJavaScript = false by default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33836  (10P.Copp)
[16:27:24] 	 how do i fix?
[16:28:37] 	 New review: saper; "I really would like to have this function somewhere (it's not a one-line debug things I can add by h..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/3977
[16:28:52] 	 03(mod) Please upload 8 videos supported by Wikimedia France - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35857  +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[16:29:02] 	  There's a Lua plugin for Geany.
[16:29:13] 	 is there an easy way to remove MinorEdit button/checkbox and label
[16:29:36] 	 i tried #wpMinoredit however it just removes checkbox not label
[16:31:11] 	 i have a file set to  http://pastebin.com/9uxXUf11
[16:31:11] 	  and http://spyinginc.com/wiki/index.php?title=Evaluate1 can still include the spy_files namespace
[16:31:11] 	  how do i fix? also, the file is require_once in localsettings.php. just go to the pafge and click on  the spy files namespace and... you are at the noincludable page
[16:32:41] 	 !lists | pokeswap 
[16:32:41] 	 pokeswap: mediawiki-l and wikitech-l are the primary mailing lists for MediaWiki-related issues. See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mailing_lists for details.
[16:33:19] 	 pokeswap: The rule is: if you don't get an answer immediately, wait something like 10 minutes before asking again.  The second time, wait ten minutes again, then post to the mailing list and stop copy-pasting in IRC.
[16:33:25] 	 03(mod) Review of OnlineStatusBar extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32128  +comment (10Platonides)
[16:33:51] 	 Thanks Platonides!
[16:34:04] 	 i added
[16:36:05] 	 hey there AaronSchulz! welcome to Tuesday
[16:38:11] 	 New patchset: Nikola Smolenski; "- Fix bug 35076 - More tests, test comments" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4647
[16:38:27] 	 saper: hey, just a quick note - https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Git/Workflow&oldid=504579 is close to the tutorial I ran for the Git workshops a few weeks ago
[16:38:42] 	 New patchset: Nikerabbit; "Partial revert of I80a47844 for (sr)" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4648
[16:39:29] 	 New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4647
[16:40:43] 	 New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4648
[16:41:39] * pokeswap  emailed all of the different lists 
[16:41:53] 	 Oh, Reedy, I was messing around, and `$_SERVER["HTTP_HOST"]` breaks when editing pages, i fuond that just commenting the line out fixes things
[16:42:01] 	 03(NEW) Cannot make inline comments on iPad/iPhone - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35859 normal; Wikimedia: Git/Gerrit; (s.mazeland)
[16:42:22] 	 03(mod) Review of OnlineStatusBar extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32128  +comment (10Peter Bena)
[16:42:22] 	 New code comment: Nikola Smolenski; I have also committed this patch on https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4647; 
[16:43:09] 	 New review: Aaron Schulz; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4601
[16:44:09] 	 Platonides: let me get this clear: you want to run pywikipediabot on the wmf cluster?
[16:44:13] 	 New review: Reedy; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4648
[16:44:15] 	 Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4648
[16:45:21] 	 03(NEW) Gerrit is a browser memory hog - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35860 normal; Wikimedia: Git/Gerrit; (s.mazeland)
[16:46:28] 	 03(FIXED) "Forward" is permanently disabled in Android 4.x - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35530  (10Patrick Hayes)
[16:46:36] 	 New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "Ok, fair enough. I did not consider messing up blame. SO I'll refrain from doing this :)" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4630
[16:47:20] 	 03(mod) Please upload 8 videos supported by Wikimedia France - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35857  +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[16:50:03] 	 New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "Merged r114672 from wmf1.19 plus tests; crosswiki block name/id fix." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4601
[16:51:21] 	 New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4601
[16:59:48] 	 New patchset: Demon; "Fix PostgreSQL updater to produce 1.19 schema" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/3365
[17:00:46] <^demon>	 saper: Should be closer to right now :)
[17:01:05] 	 New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/3365
[17:01:56] 	 Nikerabbit: should https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/112266 go into master?
[17:02:18] 	 AaronSchulz: we were just discussing that in -dev
[17:02:22] 	 03kaldari *  10/trunk/extensions/PageTriage/ (3 files in 2 dirs): now doing fetch offsets based on timestamp and page id - for the case where there are multiple pages per timestamp
[17:02:34] 	 I have made a patch for it, but apparently the communities are aware, and we should be ok to deploy it
[17:02:58] 	 Reedy: the communities have been informed... does not mean that all of them are aware :/
[17:03:04] 	 lol
[17:03:24] 	 New patchset: Nikola Smolenski; "More tests, test comments (forgot to add the file to the previous commit)" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4649
[17:03:27] 	 New patchset: Nikola Smolenski; "- Fix bug 35076 - More tests, test comments" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4647
[17:03:33] 	 but at least we can say "we told you"
[17:03:39] 	 so we are keeping them?
[17:04:08] * AaronSchulz  updates the pad
[17:04:11] 	 AaronSchulz: they are already in master, except the ones I've reverted out of those
[17:04:12] 	 Yeah... mk and sr_ec have been reverted
[17:04:31] 	 gerrit link?
[17:04:40] 	 New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4649
[17:04:42] 	 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#change,4648
[17:04:45] 	 the changed entries don't seem to have been kept as namespace aliases
[17:05:00] 	 that seems a big issue for any existing install
[17:05:15] 	 ^demon: yay! thanks!
[17:05:22] 	 Mmmm..
[17:05:53] 	 New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4647
[17:06:29] 	 We could revert them in deployment for sanity.. Or whatever
[17:06:39] 	 AFK for foooood
[17:07:27] 	 03(mod) Fatal PHP Error in Translate/tag/RenderJob.php on line 48 on marking content as translatable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35297  (10opensource)
[17:08:17] 	 03(mod) when guessVariant is true (implemented for Serbian), -{}- is not parsed but it is sometimes needed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35076  +comment (10Nikola Smolenski)
[17:10:02] 	 New review: Demon; "Please use a more descriptive commit message (see: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Commit_message..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4647
[17:13:07] 	 Platonides: which ones?
[17:13:53] 	 Platonides: please also see my question above
[17:20:48] 	 sumanah: hi! :)
[17:20:57] 	 hi potter 
[17:21:20] * Duesentrieb  waves at sumanah
[17:21:29] 	 :-) *wave*
[17:21:51] 	 ^demon: say, is it possible to rename repositories? it'll break external references, but other than that... 
[17:22:13] <^demon>	 No, it is not possible.
[17:22:13] * ^demon  feels like a broken record ;-)
[17:22:19] 	 damn. oh, well.
[17:22:31] 	 ^demon: is there an faq somewhere where i could have found this?
[17:22:39] <^demon>	 No, probably not.
[17:22:48] 	 make one, then :)
[17:23:15] <^demon>	 With 2.3, we'll have the ability to hide repos we don't like (still no deletion!!), so at that point we could make a new repo, copy everything over, then hide the old one.
[17:23:46] 	 a more elegant weapon for a more civilized time
[17:25:02] <^demon>	 Which is more elegant? Hiding, or deleting?
[17:26:33] 	 2.3 in general I meant
[17:27:30] 	 03(FIXED) LG220CM is not seeing search (go) button when loading any pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31666  +comment (10Tomasz Finc)
[17:28:05] 	 03yaron *  10/trunk/extensions/ApprovedRevs/ApprovedRevs_body.php: Added userCanApprove() utility function
[17:29:06] 	 New review: Platonides; "Why is this needed?" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4628
[17:30:26] 	 ialex: hello
[17:30:35] 	 potter: hi!
[17:37:47] 	 Is there going to be a revision report for 1.20? Or would that be blank because everything gets reviewed before merge now?
[17:39:24] 	 06(LATER) UI polish for full-screen search on mobile site - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34233  +comment (10Tomasz Finc)
[17:39:59] 	 Krenair: I do not think there will be a revision report of the type that there was for 1.19
[17:40:17] 	 Krenair: but if you have an argument for why there should be, I want to hear it
[17:40:20] 	 New patchset: Demon; "- Fix bug 35076 - More tests, test comments" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4647
[17:40:25] 	 New review: Brion VIBBER; "Can you add this file and resubmit the first patchset squashed?" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4649
[17:40:39] 	 Krenair: the revision report was mostly to track the code review backlog.... but it also tracked FIXMEs
[17:40:58] 	 sumanah, I don't see why there would be, I just noticed the red revision report link on the MediaWiki 1.20 page
[17:41:12] 	 Change abandoned: Demon; "Took care of that on patch set 3 for https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#change,4647" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4649
[17:41:22] 	 Ah! Krenair - go ahead and remove that redlink then :)
[17:41:32] 	 brion: hey there, got a moment to chat? 
[17:41:35] 	 (happy Tuesday)
[17:41:36] 	 New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4647
[17:41:40] 	 tuesdayyyyyy
[17:41:43] 	 sure
[17:42:00] 	 brion: I see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:XML_Bridge is in the review queue -- you added it in 2008 https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Review_queue&diff=next&oldid=184500
[17:42:24] 	 brion: this is probably way too long ago for you to recall, but -- was there anyone in particular besides PediaPress who wanted this to be deployed on WMF servers?
[17:42:28] 	 High priority stuff!
[17:43:16] 	 sumanah: not that i remember……. it may be obsolete or experimental
[17:43:26] 	 brion: it's "unstable" https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:XML_Bridge
[17:43:28] 	 or both
[17:43:44] 	 Reedy: for the 1.20 stuff being pushed next week... has that been branched already?
[17:44:10] 	 No
[17:44:21] 	 I test branched earlier
[17:44:27] 	 but didn't push
[17:44:28] 	 Need to redo it
[17:44:30] <^demon>	 We're looking to branch today though :)
[17:44:34] 	 New review: Aaron Schulz; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4629
[17:45:54] 	 New review: Demon; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4629
[17:46:10] 	 Before the end of the update window too!
[17:46:15] 	 New review: Aaron Schulz; "Also, see https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#change,3497" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4628
[17:46:35] 	 wait, what? the version I got a week+ ago is versioned 1.20
[17:46:51] 	 Indeed
[17:46:55] 	 03(mod) Show name of Main Page (instead of URL) in history view - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33283  summary (10Tomasz Finc)
[17:46:56] 	 head is 1.20
[17:46:58] 	 and has been for a while
[17:47:12] 	  understood now.
[17:47:35] 	 So, heads up for all: Last call for any and all revisions that *need* to be in the wmf branch and any relevant extensions!
[17:48:07] 	 Your next deployment will be in something like 3 weeks.
[17:48:16] 	 03(NEW) Wikipedia app shouldn't show duplicates within history if we haven't navigated to a new article - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35861 normal; Wikipedia App: History; (tfinc)
[17:48:58] 	 brion: ok, I am going to email the PediaPress people to ask whether they are still interested in the extension being deployed on WMF sites, but until then I'll remove it from the Review Queue
[17:49:19] 	 ok
[17:49:25] 	 03(mod) Change of Armenian Wikipedia namespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35818  (10vgratian)
[17:49:46] 	 Thanks
[17:50:30] 	 sumanah: ucosp standups in 10.
[17:50:47] 	 Amgine: and are these the last standups ever?
[17:50:51] 	 Amgine: thanks for the heads-up
[17:51:00] 	 Amgine: I actually have a phone meeting then... I will try to multitask
[17:51:00] 	 I'm not sure; I'll be asking the team. 
[17:51:13] 	 nod
[17:51:19] 	 Thanks again for your leadership on this, Amgine 
[17:51:29] 	 &tm;
[17:51:33] 	 I have not been able to provide nearly as much guidance and help as I had initially promised
[17:51:34] 	 I'm serious!
[17:51:44] 	 they couldn't have made it as far as they've made without you.
[17:52:26] 	 03(mod) Back buttons are not consistent from the About us screen on iOS - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34908  +comment (10Yuvi Panda)
[17:52:39] 	 New review: Aaron Schulz; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4629
[17:53:36] 	 03(NEW) Article Feedback 5 - Central Log for all 'un-monitored' posts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35862 normal; MediaWiki extensions: ArticleFeedbackv5; (fflorin)
[17:54:05] 	 03(mod) Article Feedback 5 - Central Log for all 'un-monitored' posts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35862  normal->major;  +aftv5-1.5 (10Fabrice Florin)
[17:58:10] 	 03(mod) Review of OnlineStatusBar extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32128  +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara)
[17:58:30] 	 03(mod) Please upload 8 videos supported by Wikimedia France - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35857  +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[17:59:20] 	 what does the #special (and now the #speciale) parser function do?
[18:01:42] 	 Duesentrieb: question: after Wikidata, will https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:XML_Bridge  be completely obsoleted?
[18:02:21] 	 04(REOPENED) Missing SSL certificates on gerrit.wikimedia.org blocking anonymous git clones - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35709  +comment (10Jeremy Baron)
[18:02:46] 	 New review: Reedy; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4601
[18:02:49] 	 Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4601
[18:03:51] 	 sumanah: that extension doesn't seem related to wikidata at all. it converts wikisyntax to xml for forther processing, and can export docbook and opendocument versions of the text (to the extend mwlib can parswe wikitext - somethign like 95% or so).
[18:04:11] 	 it doesn't concern itself with structured data at all, as far as I can see
[18:05:03] 	 sumanah: the extension will be obsolete once gabriel make a real parser for wikitext, though :) 
[18:05:09] 	 right
[18:05:09] 	 ok
[18:05:10] 	 thanks!
[18:05:31] 	 np.... why do you ask?
[18:07:58] 	 Duesentrieb: it was on the review queue for deployment, I'm taking it off
[18:08:26] 	 Got added in 2008 https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Review_queue&diff=next&oldid=184500
[18:09:22] 	 03(mod) Clean up current images with wrong SHA1 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34755  +comment (10Aaron Schulz)
[18:10:10] 	 sumanah: oh, i think it's probably obsolete and got absorbed by the collection extension. 
[18:10:25] 	 ...going by brion's comment, that is ("pediapress stuff")
[18:12:03] 	 New review: Catrope; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4481
[18:12:07] 	 Change merged: Catrope; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4481
[18:12:50] 	 03(mod) Cannot make inline comments on iPad/iPhone - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35859   +upstream (10Chad H.)
[18:15:07] 	 New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "It makes life a lot easier when caching multiple chunks of HTML or query results on special pages or..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4628
[18:21:29] 	 Anyone with a few minutes to test/feedback Wiktionary android app: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4187555/WiktionaryActivity-v101b2-debug.apk
[18:22:00] 	 New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4629
[18:24:12] 	 03(mod) Article Feedback v5 - Update Notices for Feedback Page Actions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35599  +comment (10Elizabeth M Smith)
[18:25:11] 	 New review: Aaron Schulz; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4629
[18:26:05] 	 03(mod) enable revision.rev_sha1 on enwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34104  +comment (10Asher Feldman)
[18:26:35] 	 03(mod) enable revision.rev_sha1 on enwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34104  +comment (10Aaron Schulz)
[18:28:56] 	 03aaron *  10/branches/wmf/1.19wmf1/maintenance/ (3 files): Committing live files
[18:31:08] 	 03(NEW) "Share to Twitter" fails silently on iOS 4.3, breaks toolbar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35863 normal; Wikipedia App: Share; (brion)
[18:32:07] 	 03(mod) "Share to Twitter" fails silently on iOS 4.3, breaks toolbar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35863  +comment (10Yuvi Panda)
[18:46:18] 	 04(REOPENED) Show Hide buttons not rendering properly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35504  +comment (10Patrick Hayes)
[18:47:18] 	 03(mod) "Deleting comment" link doesn't work for Comments extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34345   +need-review +patch; +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara)
[18:48:34] 	 03(mod) "Deleting comment" link doesn't work for Comments extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34345  +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara)
[18:51:03] 	 03(WONTFIX) Policy template runs off the page for Wiktionary:Etymology page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35678  +comment (10Patrick Hayes)
[18:51:08] 	 ^demon: can you help me with https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#change,3962 (RELEASE-NOTES failure to merge)...
[18:54:02] <^demon>	 Not right now, I'm busy.
[18:58:45] 	 03demon *  10/trunk/tools/make-wmf-branch/ (default.conf make-wmf-branch):
[18:58:45] 	 Make it possible to branch certain extensions so we can maintain live hacks for them.
[18:58:45] 	 I'm going on the record as saying this feels dirty :\
[18:59:16] 	 03(mod) Please upload 8 videos supported by Wikimedia France - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35857  +comment (10Adrienne Alix)
[18:59:54] 	 New review: Umherirrender; "It used the same place as the sitenotice, but sitenotice has normally no border around itself and th..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4549
[18:59:55] 	 03(mod) Problems with UploadWizard stash moving to the target - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35354  +comment (10Marco)
[19:00:49] 	 Nikerabbit: What would constitute "translation mechanisms" for the Wiktionary mobile app?
[19:01:05] 	 Amgine: elaborate
[19:01:26] 	 03demon *  10/trunk/tools/make-wmf-branch/make-wmf-branch:
[19:01:27] 	 Forgot the most important part of r114826, have to specify -b on `git submodule add`
[19:01:27] 	 $duplication++
[19:01:40] 	 We're told that having translation mechanisms to translate the messages in the app is a blocker for release.
[19:02:09] 	 Amgine: and are you planning to have release soon?
[19:02:22] 	 Yes, if at all possible. Term is ending.
[19:02:33] 	 I'd like it released Monday.
[19:02:33] 	 03demon *  10/trunk/tools/make-wmf-branch/make-wmf-branch: Syntax errors galore!
[19:03:40] 	 Term?
[19:04:09] 	 School term. This is finals week, term officially ends on Friday.
[19:04:52] 	 03(mod) Send full SSL certificate chain including root CA on gerrit.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35709  summary; +comment (10Marcin Cieślak)
[19:05:48] 	 Amgine: give me 30 minutes
[19:06:00] 	 ilu Nikerabbit
[19:10:30] 	 03(FIXED) transwiki import of invalid titles is possible on wmf wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33564  +comment (10Umherirrender)
[19:11:03] 	 03(mod) Review of OnlineStatusBar extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32128  +comment (10Peter Bena)
[19:12:54] 	 Amgine: ilu?
[19:13:38] 	 I love you. ~= Extreme thanks.
[19:15:23] 	 03bsitu *  10/trunk/extensions/PageTriage/api/ApiPageTriageList.php: fix namespace filtering
[19:21:47] 	 03(mod) enable revision.rev_sha1 on enwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34104  +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[19:25:34] 	 03yaron *  10/trunk/extensions/ApprovedRevs/ApprovedRevs_body.php: Fix for r114824 - fix for global variable name
[19:29:27] 	 03yaron *  10/trunk/extensions/ApprovedRevs/ (ApprovedRevs.hooks.php ApprovedRevs.php):
[19:29:27] 	 Added handling for new $egApprovedRevsSelfOwnedNamespaces global variable, which
[19:29:27] 	 lets the "owner" of a page, for certain namespaces, approve revisions, even if
[19:29:27] 	 they're not an administrator. Also some minor formatting and other improvements.
[19:32:09] 	 03aaron *  10/trunk/tools/mwmultiversion/multiversion/checkoutMediaWiki: Updated restrictions on destination directory and commented out svn code.
[19:36:21] 	 New patchset: Reedy; "No more pre-r73480 compat hacks!" [mediawiki/extensions/SimpleSurvey] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4656
[19:40:15] 	 Amgine: ask pfhayes :)
[19:40:22] 	 03reedy *  10/trunk/tools/make-wmf-branch/default.conf:
[19:40:22] 	 PrefSwitch is apparently still used by SimpleSurvey
[19:40:22] 	 *barf*
[19:40:57] 	 Nikerabbit: Excellent. He's online right now Nikerabbit.
[19:41:40] 	 Pfhayes: Comment on the above?
[19:41:54] 	 Amgine: what's the question?
[19:43:11] 	 translations for wiktionary mobile app
[19:43:21] 	 Whether we have the translation mechanisms built yet.
[19:43:52] 	 Nikerabbit, Amgine : just finished making http://translatewiki.net/wiki/Translating:WiktionaryMobile
[19:44:03] 	 and Nikerabbit gave me this earlier: http://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Special:MessageGroupStats&language=fi&group=out-wiktionary-mobile
[19:45:08] 	 hadn't realized zh-hk had official recognition.
[19:45:39] 	 Nikerabbit: is there anything else i need to set up?
[19:47:07] 	 pfhayes: are you the contact person or who?
[19:47:44] 	 Nikerabbit: looks like it :P
[19:47:49] 	 pfhayes is the student lead.
[19:48:02] 	 YuviPanda is the WMF lead
[19:48:09] 	 pfhayes: you should watch the talk page for new threads then
[19:48:19] 	 Nikerabbit: where can I find that?
[19:48:31] 	 http://translatewiki.net/wiki/Translating_talk:WiktionaryMobile
[19:48:56] 	 and add some contact information for the info page
[19:49:25] 	 Nikerabbit: I put a link to my own user page, which was pretty sparse. I'll add some more
[19:50:53] 	 New review: Brion VIBBER; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4637
[19:50:59] 	 Change merged: Brion VIBBER; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4637
[19:51:30] 	 pfhayes: I need to test export once there are few new translations
[19:51:54] 	 Nikerabbit: okay, is there anything you need from me for that?
[19:52:22] 	 03catrope *  10/branches/wmf/1.19wmf1/extensions/WikimediaMaintenance/jobs-loop.sh: 1.19wmf1: Merge https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#change,4371
[19:53:21] 	 pfhayes: unless you can translate, no
[19:53:29] 	 you alreast gave commit access, right?
[19:53:43] 	 Nikerabbit: you should have commit access. I can translate some french :)
[19:54:11] 	 New review: Brion VIBBER; "Tests run per Jenkins. Yay!" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4647
[19:54:14] 	 Change merged: Brion VIBBER; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4647
[19:55:42] 	 New review: Brion VIBBER; "Going ahead and taking this -- please let us know if there are any PG-related errors after, as tests..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/3365
[19:55:46] 	 Change merged: Brion VIBBER; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/3365
[19:58:29] 	 03(mod) Dolphin on Samsung Jet receives WAP content - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30827  +comment (10Max Semenik)
[19:59:54] 	 New patchset: Szymon ?wierkosz; "Extend API to allow viewing revdeleted content." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4658
[20:00:03] 	 New patchset: Brion VIBBER; "bug35572 Blocks appear to succeed w/DB error" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/3977
[20:01:15] 	 New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4658
[20:02:34] 	 New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/3977
[20:03:37] 	 New review: Brion VIBBER; "My previous objections are withdrawn based on followup comments:" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/3977
[20:03:40] 	 Change merged: Brion VIBBER; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/3977
[20:06:38] 	 New review: Brion VIBBER; "Looks good; tests run so something's working. :)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4638
[20:06:51] 	 hm one more test is throwing an error
[20:07:00] 	 brion: \o/ thanks for merging :)
[20:07:15] 	 whee
[20:09:21] 	   
[20:09:21] 	 brion: why /usr/home/saper/public_html/pg/w/tests/phpunit/includes/db/DatabaseSqliteTest.php:274
[20:09:35] 	 ... is being called when running PostgreSQL?
[20:09:44] 	 no idea 
[20:10:03] <^demon>	 DatabaseSqliteTest is run for all setups if you've got support for it.
[20:11:07] 	 does mediawiki has a framework for functional tests, like setting up a certain database snapshot, performing tests and cleaning up?
[20:11:53] 	 ^demon: it throws an error on me: pg_query(): Query failed: ERROR:  column "adsrc" does not exist
[20:11:59] 	 this is *not* sqlite :)
[20:12:09] <^demon>	 Weird. Ask MaxSem
[20:12:34] 	 it must be fresh
[20:12:54] 	 since only one test was throwing unexpected exception :)
[20:14:20] 	 yep, fcfa72b4
[20:14:20] 	 saper, the idea is that tests should run whenever possible. SQLite uses in-memory DBs so it can run whenever there's PDO:sqlite available
[20:15:17] 	 Beau_: there is an abandoned one in the MW code base under /tests/selenium (I've been spelunking in there recently).  I can't really recommend it, it's pretty funky
[20:16:00] 	 New review: Brion VIBBER; "* JavaScript injection: you can inject javascript: URIs which execute code when clicked" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4609
[20:16:14] 	 chrismcmahon: oh, good to know, thanks...
[20:16:14] 	 MaxSem: fcfa72b4 makes it fail on  $updater->doUpdates( array( 'core' ) );
[20:16:14] 	 I guess updater is not enough db independent to do this
[20:16:14] 	 should be easy to fix
[20:16:25] <^demon>	 To create unit tests for MediaWiki, you should subclass MediaWikiTestCase. There should be lots of working examples in tests/phpunit/*
[20:16:29] <^demon>	 Beau_: ^
[20:16:49] <^demon>	 If you want the database to be setup for your test, include "@group Database" in the class docs.
[20:17:02] 	 ^demon: I did not mean unit tests, which test only one class, but functional tests, I wanted to test api on a specific database snapshot
[20:17:13] <^demon>	 Ah ok sorry then.
[20:17:29] * ToAruShiroiNeko  injects self with some JavaScript
[20:17:34] * ToAruShiroiNeko  crashes
[20:18:03] 	 ^demon: it would be nice to have a setup with importing test database dump from xml file and run some tests
[20:18:17] 	 Beau_: you're after testing just the API not the UI?
[20:18:26] 	 yes
[20:18:30] <^demon>	 I've been more focusing on unit testing and getting that running reliably.
[20:18:32] 	 New review: Brion VIBBER; "For the commit summary: it'd be best if the first line includes both the bug number and a short desc..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4609
[20:18:46] <^demon>	 Which, it's better this year than last, and infinitely better than the year before.
[20:18:59] 	 ^demon: I wrote for my last push 60 unit tests and they do not cover everything I want them to
[20:19:56] 	 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#change,4658
[20:23:23] 	 ToAruShiroiNeko: just btw, Selenium 2.0 doesn't inject javascript any more :-) 
[20:23:49] 	 New patchset: Nikerabbit; "Avoid infinite loops" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4660
[20:24:39] 	 03(FIXED) Allow descending order for list=watchlistraw - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32384  +comment (10MrBlueSky)
[20:24:53] 	 New patchset: Hashar; "makes gitweb URL points to full sha1" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4661
[20:25:03] 	 03(mod) Allow descending order for list=watchlistraw - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32384  -need-review  (10MrBlueSky)
[20:26:10] 	 New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4661
[20:26:11] 	 something got mis-merged 
[20:26:13] 	 ay
[20:27:03] 	 Reedy, could you send me a PhpStorm key, please?
[20:27:37] 	 New patchset: Nikerabbit; "Avoid infinite loops" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4660
[20:27:37] 	 MaxSem: your gmail ok?
[20:27:41] 	 New review: Demon; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/ClickTracking] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4499
[20:27:44] 	 Change merged: Demon; [mediawiki/extensions/ClickTracking] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4499
[20:27:54] 	 Reedy, yes
[20:28:14] 	 sent 
[20:28:30] 	 New review: Brion VIBBER; "Recommend tweaking how the link is built in the JS for general safety and consistency - see inline c..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4604
[20:28:34] 	 New review: Demon; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/AntiSpoof] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4103
[20:28:36] 	 Change merged: Demon; [mediawiki/extensions/AntiSpoof] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4103
[20:29:20] 	 Reedy, thanks
[20:29:50] 	 New review: Demon; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralAuth] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4102
[20:29:52] 	 Change merged: Demon; [mediawiki/extensions/CentralAuth] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4102
[20:30:17] 	 New review: Demon; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4624
[20:30:19] 	 Change merged: Demon; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4624
[20:30:26] 	 New review: Aaron Schulz; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4661
[20:30:29] 	 Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4661
[20:30:47] 	 New review: Demon; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/SimpleSurvey] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4656
[20:30:50] 	 Change merged: Demon; [mediawiki/extensions/SimpleSurvey] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4656
[20:31:25] 	 New review: Brion VIBBER; "Doesn't seem to work right." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4661
[20:33:16] 	 New review: Brion VIBBER; "This was already merged to master; on master it looks ok. No idea why..." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4661
[20:33:46] 	 03bsitu *  10/trunk/extensions/PageTriage/ (4 files in 2 dirs): remove redundant metadata
[20:33:47] <^demon>	 brion: Magic, of course :)
[20:33:58] * brion  throws pixie dust about
[20:34:07] 	 Dantman: wait, 4069 is still in gerrit? That should be easy to finish
[20:35:40] 	 just installed mediawiki
[20:35:48] 	 know next to nothing
[20:35:58] 	 first thing I need to know is 
[20:36:19] 	 can i control user accounts so only certain people can create content?
[20:38:36] 	 raks: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access#Restrict_account_creation
[20:39:57] 	 Beau_: thanks
[20:40:18] 	 recommendations for getting up to speed quickly?
[20:40:30] 	 docs/tutorials/books/etc?
[20:40:45] 	 or just go through the handbook
[20:41:28] 	 raks: i usually use google with site:mediawiki.org ;)
[20:42:34] 	 New review: Brion VIBBER; "Doesn't appear to explode. :)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4078
[20:42:37] 	 Change merged: Brion VIBBER; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4078
[20:42:54] * AaronSchulz  watches brion's review standards drop :p
[20:43:35] 	 hehe
[20:44:05] 	 eventually you will just have DAE in the review summary
[20:44:35] 	 New patchset: IAlex; "Follow-up I5b02aa914916f64492c85ce6dcc3272b6406551a (#4335), also put a link in the debug toolbar." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4604
[20:45:53] 	 ...@##$
[20:45:54] 	 New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4604
[20:46:06] 	 now pgsql code is smashed by merges :(:(
[20:46:33] 	 darn, i was afraid of that
[20:46:45] 	 that's what we get for not taking care of them in a more timely manner
[20:46:56] <^demon>	 And when conflict changesets get merged :\
[20:48:38] 	 brion: one change I had to reapply again
[20:48:52] 	 and now I can't find some functions I am 100% I've had earlier 
[20:49:16] 	 2fsck
[20:49:24] 	 now I don't know where is my working code
[20:49:56] 	 New review: Brion VIBBER; "Grammar qunit tests don't run; need to be able to dynamically load the settings for a given language..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4554
[20:51:29] 	 MaxSem: this sqlite test is probably ok
[20:51:29] 	 MaxSem: pgsql code got botched completely
[20:51:40] 	 o_0
[20:52:00] 	 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#change,3365 <-- dependency of this on is bogus
[20:52:04] 	 it used to be correct one
[20:52:29] 	 it got somehow rebased, but functions required are missing
[20:52:59] 	 :(
[20:53:13] 	 ^demon: anything funny when you did that patch merge?
[20:53:16] 	 branch merge / rebase
[20:53:32] <^demon>	 Yeah, there were a crapton of conflicts in DatabasePostgres and PostgresUpdater.
[20:53:51] 	 ther were here https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#change,3689
[20:54:01] 	 but this got abandoned
[20:54:02] 	 brion: you didn't merge https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#change,4638
[20:54:11] 	 and 4288 was there instead
[20:54:33] 	 AaronSchulz: musta needed the dep, which is now listed as merged. lemme try forcing it
[20:54:38] 	 but somehow it's not there
[20:54:39] 	 Change merged: Brion VIBBER; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4638
[20:55:27] 	 binasher: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#change,4602 is ok right?
[20:55:30] 	 I can't see why not
[20:55:43] 	 New review: Aaron Schulz; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4602
[20:56:28] 	 New review: Hashar; "CR -2 -> -1." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4606
[20:56:29] <^demon>	 saper: realTableName() seems to be in REL1_19, but not in master. Where was it supposed to be added to master?
[20:56:38] 	 AaronSchulz: looking
[20:57:36] 	 AaronSchulz: yeah, that's fine
[20:57:58] 	 ^demon: don't tell me about REL1_19 even :)
[20:57:58] 	 should be in master
[20:57:58] 	 one sql query got mangled now I need to figure it out again, strange
[20:58:10] <^demon>	 I don't see a change where it got added to master.
[20:58:57] 	 ^demon: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#change,4288 ?
[20:59:00] 	 binasher: can you +1?
[20:59:22] <^demon>	 saper: Yeah, but I don't see where that ever got applied to master, but it should've been.
[20:59:28] 	 New review: Asher; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4602
[20:59:44] 	 New review: Aaron Schulz; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4602
[20:59:46] 	 Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4602
[20:59:48] 	 I'm trying to run the moveBatch.php maintenance script to rename a bunch of pages, but it's throwing the error on each one:
[20:59:53] 	 FAILED: This action cannot be performed on this page.
[20:59:57] 	 New review: Hashar; "Thanks a lot Christian for factoring out this code :-] Much appreciated." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4637
[21:00:04] 	 Any idea why it would do that? It's not giving me any more information
[21:01:27] <^demon>	 brion, saper: So it looks like what's going on is 4288 was never applied to master, only REL1_19. This has 2 effects: 1) it makes master currently broken, and 2) it's what made the rebase in 3365 so impossible.
[21:01:47] <^demon>	 So, it's going to be a royal PITA, but 4288 needs to be applied to master.
[21:01:56] 	 blarf
[21:02:07] 	 New review: Aaron Schulz; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (Wikidata); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4590
[21:02:32] 	 looks like I might have missed one change
[21:02:33] 	 strange
[21:02:36] 	 New review: Aaron Schulz; "Jenkins error looks unrelated." [mediawiki/core] (Wikidata); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4590
[21:02:36] 	 this is why nothing should ever go into version branches :)
[21:02:38] 	 Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/core] (Wikidata) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4590
[21:02:44] 	 I remember closing it in bugzilla
[21:03:12] <^demon>	 brion: Don't we have a bunch of angry old e-mails from you and RobChurch about not backporting stuff to release branches? ;-)
[21:03:24] 	 probably :)
[21:04:17] <^demon>	 I think we can learn a couple of lessons here...
[21:04:33] 	 03raindrift *  10/trunk/extensions/PageTriage/ (9 files in 5 dirs):
[21:04:33] 	 moved a bunch of files around to make room for the toolbar module
[21:04:33] 	 added a stub for the toolbar module
[21:04:35] <^demon>	 1) We should still follow our old svn practice of "push to trunk|master, then backport if needed"
[21:04:47] <^demon>	 2) Be more careful when merging to release branches
[21:05:02] 	 So, any advice on why moveBatch.php is not working?
[21:07:58] 	 New review: Platonides; "We have exactly 2 collisions of a 7-char hex hash: 045772c and 849186b" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4661
[21:10:47] 	 New review: Brion VIBBER; "Works here!" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4604
[21:10:50] 	 Change merged: Brion VIBBER; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4604
[21:11:17] <^demon>	 I think I can resolve this.
[21:11:38] 	 ^demon: I got it I think: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#patch,sidebyside,3365,1,includes/db/DatabasePostgres.php was OK https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#patch,sidebyside,3365,2,includes/db/DatabasePostgres.php this one is completely bogus - it reverts https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#change,4288 *and* it breaks the SQL query
[21:11:51] 	 plus removes one of the methods from the class
[21:12:05] 	 I really wonder *why*
[21:12:30] <^demon>	 Well 4288 was never applied to master.
[21:14:04] 	 I see it on the path ...
[21:14:43] 	 oh now
[21:14:45] 	 oh no
[21:14:55] 	 it's *somewhere* :)
[21:15:12] <^demon>	 Clean merge to master http://p.defau.lt/?DbqB71bssaT6BWNYzvFe_A
[21:15:18] <^demon>	 Adds the missing method back.
[21:15:26] <^demon>	 s/back/there to begin with ;-)/
[21:15:53] 	 nope...
[21:16:49] <^demon>	 Please point me to the commit where that was added to master.
[21:17:24] <^demon>	 Oh, barf.
[21:17:26] <^demon>	 Nevermind.
[21:17:27] 	 03(mod) "Deleting comment" link doesn't work for Comments extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34345  +comment (10Edward)
[21:17:28] <^demon>	 I misread.
[21:17:36] <^demon>	 I totally botched that rebase, this is my fault.
[21:17:47] 	 Anyone? Kinda having problems :p
[21:17:54] 	 I'm checking where this https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#patch,unified,3365,1,includes/db/DatabasePostgres.php went
[21:18:35] 	 Nervermind, I mistyped a flag >.<
[21:19:46] <^demon>	 saper: Again, I had a lot of conflicts there. This is most likely due to human error.
[21:20:20] <^demon>	 brion: How about we make super saper always gets to comment on a pgsql patch before we merge, eh?
[21:20:34] 	 ^demon: I understand... although I was the only person working on this code... I don't want to image what would be if working w/greg or somebody on that together
[21:20:43] 	 ^demon: let's pinky-swear on that one. SACRED TRUST
[21:21:11] 	 Change abandoned: saper; "(no reason)" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/3790
[21:21:39] 	 Change abandoned: saper; "Let's sort out master first" [mediawiki/core] (REL1_19) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/3700
[21:23:03] 	 heh
[21:24:11] <^demon>	 I always knew master would be messy for the first few weeks. Hitting a moving target was near impossible from the beginning.
[21:24:35] <^demon>	 I'm thinking we should keep master slushed for merges of non-fixes until we're a bit more confident of things. I'm kinda leery right now actually.
[21:24:54] 	 i'm trying to be conservative-ish
[21:25:08] 	 other than trying to get release-targeted stuff like 'fix postgres' :)
[21:25:52] <^demon>	 You running on OSX or Ubuntu mostly right now?
[21:28:04] 	 03(NEW) Being too Bold - well formed Bold syntax confounded by malformed one later - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35864 normal; MediaWiki: Page editing; (orenbochman)
[21:28:05] 	 brion: there were 3-4 bugs reported against postgres installation/update in 1.18
[21:28:25] 	 I want to tell them "go try 1.19" :)
[21:28:46] <^demon>	 saper: We rewrote the installer in 1.17, so a lot of bugs came in for 1.17 & 1.18.
[21:29:13] <^demon>	 Part of it is because I absolutely hate how postgres does it compared to the other backends.
[21:29:14] 	 03(NEW) Invalid argument supplied for foreach() - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35865 normal; MediaWiki extensions: LiquidThreads; (sam)
[21:29:34] 	 ^demon: at home i'm on my osx laptop. got an ubuntu box at the office
[21:29:34] 	 ^demon: yes, and after we're done with this, MW can be updated from 1.7.3 to trunk if running on pgsql
[21:29:37] 	 New code comment: Reedy; Bug 35865; 
[21:29:43] <^demon>	 A long time ago brion rewrote updates to be sequential, rather than "by type"
[21:29:48] <^demon>	 Postgres never updated.
[21:30:20] <^demon>	 brion: I'm kinda upset because I can't get phpunit running since we moved to git :\ I've been getting vague "cannot redeclare class" bugs that I can't figure out.
[21:30:39] 	 that doesn't sound good
[21:31:05] <^demon>	 Yeah, I'm upset because I can't run unit tests locally which I do *all the time* these days.
[21:31:09] 	 runs for me...
[21:31:19] 	 ^demon: well, I daresay the way we handle transactions is broken... immediately commiting in SqlBagOStuff because MySQL needs it is a no-no
[21:31:19] 	 ^demon: I know, tried to restore this a bit.... but it makes little sense now
[21:31:19] 	 new ones should be added sequentially now
[21:31:20] <^demon>	 Ouch. How do you have phpunit installed?
[21:31:35] 	 through pear i think
[21:31:45] 	 I am running phpunit fine
[21:31:52] 	 on my box
[21:32:06] <^demon>	 I think my installation is borked. PEAR doesn't report it as installed, neither does macports.
[21:32:11] <^demon>	 This sounds yucky.
[21:32:17] 	 once it works i never dare touch it again until it breaks on something :)
[21:32:48] 	 'which phpunit', check where it's hiding?
[21:33:36] <^demon>	 pear and phpunit bins are both in /opt/local/bin
[21:33:53] 	 that smells like macports...
[21:34:02] 	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Version congrats all :-)
[21:34:12] 	 mine's in /opt/pear/bin o_O
[21:34:15] 	 \o/
[21:34:21] <^demon>	 Yeah, php + pear are installed from macports.
[21:34:24] 	 we got git done
[21:34:36] 	 now every extension has a different revision yay 
[21:36:09] <^demon>	 gerrit 2.3 went final \o/
[21:36:21] 	 woohoo
[21:36:36] <^demon>	 release notes: http://gerrit-documentation.googlecode.com/svn/ReleaseNotes/ReleaseNotes-2.3.html
[21:37:23] 	 03(NEW) Division by zero in Expr.php on line 423 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35866 minor; MediaWiki extensions: ParserFunctions; (sam)
[21:40:28] 	 03(mod) Division by zero in Expr.php on line 423 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35866  +comment (10Brion Vibber)
[21:41:11] 	 03(mod) Enable categorytree tag on spanish wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35856  normal->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[21:42:01] 	 03(mod) Please upload 8 videos supported by Wikimedia France - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35857  +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[21:42:38] 	 is it possible to create a page that is only accessible to certain people
[21:42:39] 	 ?
[21:43:19] 	 i'm thinking having people create content but not have it publicaly available until its been approved by an editor
[21:53:57] 	 03(NEW) testApiListPages() incomplete - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35867 normal; MediaWiki: API; (marcin.cieslak)
[21:55:37] 	 03(FIXED) Please upload 8 videos supported by Wikimedia France - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35857  +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[21:59:33] 	 raks: FlaggedRevisions?
[22:01:02] 	 03bsitu *  10/trunk/extensions/PageTriage/includes/ArticleMetadata.php: remove redundant "deleted" from cache and restructure compilation component
[22:05:57] 	 03kaldari *  10/trunk/extensions/PageTriage/modules/ext.pageTriage.views.list/ext.pageTriage.listItem.css: article infopanes need a min-height for cases of articles with no snippets
[22:06:17] 	 03(mod) iOS 4.2 Startup time is horrendously long - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35838  +comment (10Yuvi Panda)
[22:12:00] 	 03(FIXED) Global message delivery did not deliver 1.19 announce on fr.wikibooks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34704  +comment (10MZMcBride)
[22:12:50] 	 03(mod) Division by zero in Expr.php on line 423 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35866  +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[22:13:42] 	 ^demon: I think I got the merge properly, will send asap
[22:13:49] <^demon>	 :)
[22:14:06] 	 but these will be TWO commits
[22:14:14] 	 wonder how gerrit will swallow them
[22:14:41] 	 you can't merge another change if your working tree is dirty after "git revert -n "
[22:24:36] 	 saper: You can always run git stash to make your working tree clean
[22:24:43] 	 and then reapply
[22:24:50] 	 Or commit the conflicted state and change it later
[22:24:59] 	 but that's all somewhat advanced git surgery
[22:25:09] 	 RoanKattouw_away: I want both changes in
[22:25:29] 	 that one comming from the commit and that resulting from reverting one
[22:25:42] 	 OK
[22:25:51] 	 Does one   depend on the other?
[22:33:45] 	 test
[22:33:58] 	 yes, because one reverts a botched merge, and the other one applies the original (correct) patch, plus manual fixes are needed to merge that into the new master
[22:34:35] 	 Ah Ok
[22:35:07] 	 Yeah then you need two commits, sounds sane
[22:35:12] 	 Gerrit will handle it fine
[22:35:31] 	 [question] installed fresh MW, ported pages over from XML export, copied images folder, no go. what's the best way to add the images back to this new installation?
[22:35:44] 	 hi Sieva 
[22:35:47] 	 sorry for the trouble
[22:36:12] 	 no need to apologize! I'm up for the challenge. 
[22:36:16] 	 Sieva: was there a difference in the two installations in any way? operating system, MW version?
[22:37:01] 	 Sieva: you need to run the import script which can be found in the maintenance directory
[22:37:03] 	 both OS ( SuSE to Ubuntu) and MW version (1.18.1 to 18.2) 
[22:37:06] 	 from the php command line
[22:37:30] 	 03(mod) Back buttons are not consistent from the About us screen on iOS - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34908  +comment (10Yuvi Panda)
[22:39:08] 	 importImages.php , thank you!
[22:39:22] <^demon>	 !gerriterror is For a list of common Gerrit errors and what can cause them, please see 
[22:39:23] 	 Successfully added keyword: gerriterror
[22:40:24] 	  ! [remote rejected] HEAD -> refs/for/master/postgres-updater (missing Change-Id in commit message)
[22:40:27] 	 no go
[22:40:30] 	 fsck
[22:41:01] 	 fscking gerrit
[22:46:52] 	 
[22:49:52] 	 saper: Probably either the revert commit or the merge commit
[22:50:13] 	 You need to explicitly --amend commits that are automatically generated, it's a bug in the commit-msg hook
[22:50:17] 	 Sieva: btw how is MW for you in general?
[22:50:21] 	 & I'll spam you a little
[22:50:24] 	 !events | Sieva 
[22:50:25] 	 Sieva: We run face-to-face events for MediaWiki developers and people who want to learn: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_developer_meetings We also have online meetings in IRC to triage bugs: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Bug_management/Triage
[22:50:28] 	 !berlin | Sieva 
[22:50:28] 	 Sieva: Registration is now open for the Berlin hackathon, 1-3 June 2012. See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Berlin_Hackathon_2012
[22:51:30] 	 I personally enjoy it for what it does. I wish some of the extensions were more diligently worked on, maybe have more of them directly implemented into the core.
[22:52:55] 	 I would love to install and admin. more of these for other organizations, I think they're a boon to any organization. 
[22:53:21] 	 New patchset: saper; "Fix broken merge by 0a792a1dcba26dd70d64e307b301c6" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4672
[22:54:39] 	 New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4672
[22:55:05] 	 03(NEW) Some parameters to graph format always have default values. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35868 normal; MediaWiki extensions: SemanticResultFormats; (fernando.carpani)
[22:55:27] 	 Sieva: cool :)
[22:55:34] 	 03(mod) Please upload 8 videos supported by Wikimedia France - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35857  +comment (10Adrienne Alix)
[22:55:42] 	 Sieva: pm me your email & I'll put you in touch with some.....
[22:56:02] 	 03(mod) Some parameters to graph format always have default values. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35868  normal->major (10Fernando Carpani)
[22:59:30] 	 New patchset: saper; "Fix broken merge by 0a792a1dcba26dd70d64e307b301c6" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4672
[23:00:11] 	 03(NEW) Please add strategywiki as an import source on testwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35869 normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (Thehelpfulonewiki)
[23:00:47] 	 New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4672
[23:07:20] 	 03(mod) Etherpad does not work on https - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35637  +comment (10John Mark Vandenberg)
[23:09:18] 	 http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=API:Main_page&diff=523396&oldid=522571&unhide=1 jeez, is revdel really necessary for this?
[23:09:49] 	 Jasper did it... >_>
[23:18:08] 	 03(NEW) Pre-upload thumbnail shows spinner, never finishes on Windows 8 Consumer Preview / IE 10 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35870 normal; MediaWiki: Uploading; (brion)
[23:22:40] 	 New patchset: saper; "(bug 27283) SqlBagOStuff breaks PostgreSQL txns" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/3962
[23:23:58] 	 New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/3962
[23:33:44] 	 03(FIXED) Please add strategywiki as an import source on testwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35869  +comment (10Roan Kattouw)
[23:36:59] 	 New patchset: saper; "Fix broken merge by 0a792a1dcba26dd70d64e307b301c6" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4672
[23:38:03] 	 how can I convert an ISO date format to another date format (users preference)
[23:38:16] 	 New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4672
[23:39:39] 	 03kaldari *  10/trunk/extensions/PageTriage/ (2 files in 2 dirs): moving review button to inside info-pane so the layout wont break regardless of content wrapping
[23:40:19] 	 New patchset: saper; "(bug 27283) SqlBagOStuff breaks PostgreSQL txns" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/3962
[23:40:52] 	 03(mod) Background of Wikimedia public key list fails to load - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35669  -shell +ops (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[23:41:26] 	 03(mod) Change of Armenian Wikipedia namespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35818  major->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[23:41:27] 	 03(mod) Enable subpages in main namespace on bn wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35700  normal->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[23:41:28] 	 03(mod) Add enotif on page changes in watchlist (guwiki and source) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35694  normal->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[23:41:30] 	 03(mod) Set a non-empty default value for wmgArticleFeedbackBlacklistCategories on WMF wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35853  normal->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[23:41:30] 	 03(mod) Add a category to $wgArticleFeedbackBlacklistCategories for Portuguese Wikipedia to remove AFT from disambiguation pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35852  normal->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[23:41:31] 	 03(mod) Wikijunior and cookbook namespaces for the Vietnamese Wikibooks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35823  normal->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[23:41:37] 	 New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/3962
[23:42:32] 	 03(mod) Set logo for sl.wikiversity - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35659  normal->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[23:42:41] 	 03(mod) Renaming Namespace Wikisource:Author in gu.wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35666  normal->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[23:46:07] 	 New patchset: Reedy; "Remove yaseo references" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralAuth] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4673
[23:49:41] 	 03(FIXED) Clean up yaseo references - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31019  +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[23:52:36] 	 03(NEW) Jenkins should not accept PHP files with spurious output (without 	 03(mod) Jenkins job: universal lint check - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35585  (10Marcin Cieślak)
[23:54:10] 	 Hm, it would seem that my attempt to make the contribs/deletedcontribs toolbox menus the same failed on mediawiki.org