[00:00:03] <^demon> swappoke: Did you check what phpinfo(); shows you? [00:00:08] 14(DUP) Read page in scrolling up and down makes you lose the languages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35763 +comment (10Tomasz Finc) [00:00:08] 03(mod) Langage list has lots of white space while scrolling - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35779 +comment (10Tomasz Finc) [00:01:08] what is that? [00:02:03] i just noticed something good in php.ini register_globals = Off [00:03:09] Joan: you MZMcBride? you you… grr, why am I only finding out now [00:03:38] You and you ever changing aliases :P [00:03:45] thx for the grammar fix on my meta page btw [00:03:56] <^demon> Krinkle: Welcome to the party. [00:04:02] <^demon> We've been here for months ;-) [00:04:23] what is ;; where do i set it? [00:04:25] New patchset: Reha Sterbin; "Bug fix: make sure the link is selected before the impression event is added" [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4768 [00:04:34] <^demon> !phpinfo | swappoke [00:04:34] swappoke: create a file called info.php in your wiki's installation directory. It should have the following content: ; Visit it with your browser to see information about your php installation. If it doesn't work, check file permissions. Remove the file when done, it makes life easier for attackers. [00:05:32] Krinkle: No problem. :-) [00:07:06] 03(mod) Disparity between submit clicktracking events and AFTv5 records created - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35590 +comment (10Reha Sterbin) [00:07:06] 03(NEW) UploadWizard failing to recognize valid WikiText and licenses - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35901 major; MediaWiki extensions: UploadWizard; (swalling) [00:08:00] nothing about APC there [00:08:45] <^demon> swappoke: In that case, I'd look at trying to get APC installed on your server. It should be much easier to setup/configure than Memcached, and should give you some really noticeable speed improvements. [00:09:28] does it require command line? [00:09:33] !APC [00:09:34] I don't know anything about "apc". You might try: !emailconfirmed [00:10:59] <^demon> swappoke: Yes, Memcached, APC, all of these things require some sort of real access to the server. [00:11:01] !emailconfirmedAPC [00:11:02] I don't know anything about "emailconfirmedapc". [00:11:19] is there any way without CLA ie: cron job [00:11:47] i know instead of running maintence/update.php i can just do the SQl query [00:12:00] <^demon> It's not so much the command line interface as having administrative access to the machine. [00:13:21] 03(mod) Reports of secret key generation "hanging" on windows - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35894 +comment (10Bawolff) [00:14:30] hmm, if you have access to cron on that level, can't you just tell it to start a ssh server ;) [00:14:40] <^demon> Or install ssh ;-) [00:15:00] <^demon> Yeah, that's the point though. You can't install any of this stuff via a web control panel and with good reason. [00:15:17] <^demon> I'm not sure I'd trust my data to a host that allowed that kind of privilege escalation ;-) [00:17:47] 03(NEW) Zoom out to at least one entry on nearby function - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35902 normal; Wikipedia App: Generic; (Thehelpfulonewiki) [00:28:57] 03(mod) MobileFrontend breaks frontend caching in some cases - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35842 +comment (10Arthur Richards) [00:32:52] 03raindrift * 10/trunk/extensions/PageTriage/ (5 files in 3 dirs): added module to conditionally load the curation toolbar on wiki pages [00:36:59] Has the fancycaptcha been cracked by publically available tools or something? I'm seeing a lot more automated looking spam lately on some wikis I run. [00:42:09] Dantman: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Thread:Project:Support_desk/help_with_this:_Fatal_error:_mcrypt_create_iv()#help_with_this:_Fatal_error:__mcrypt_create_iv.28.29__14296 [00:44:41] We should ship MW with more randomness [00:50:27] more randomness. There are sooo many ways I could deliberately misinterpret that. [00:52:36] Reedy: indeed, needs moar animal pictures! [00:53:34] and easter eggs. Mediawiki needs easter eggs. [00:53:42] Tim added one [00:54:18] So did PHP, but it shouldn't be mentioned in mixed company. [00:55:05] 03bsitu * 10/trunk/extensions/PageTriage/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Add page triage page id validation [01:06:35] if I run a outside script of the wiki for images, do I need to run any scripts to update metadata or anything [01:06:49] no name changes, just some compression (running optipng) [01:08:23] 03raindrift * 10/trunk/extensions/PageTriage/ (4 files in 2 dirs): more toolbar scaffolding. no real code yet, mostly notes. [01:10:41] New patchset: Eloquence; "Add simple warning to indicate that VE is still in early dev." [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4769 [01:13:12] New review: Krinkle; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master); V: 0 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4769 [01:14:54] JRWR_: Although it does make things more complicated, it's probably best not to let the script run on the ./images directory directly [01:15:07] as that might mess with thumbnails, cache and other expectations [01:15:29] JRWR_: I'd say use a wiki bot to download the image using the API and then uploading a new version of it using the API [01:15:41] Keeps both in the history though [01:16:09] Or if the site isn't too big, clear the thumbs and just run it on the raw ./images directory [01:16:31] Krinkle: just running optipng, to just compress it a bit [01:16:38] yeah [01:16:41] shaved off 2GB in a test [01:17:25] JRWR_: I wouldn't touch the raw files if I were you [01:17:37] in terms of storage and traffic, most gain will be in the thumbs [01:17:54] almost nobody views the raw files, even viewing the FIle: page won't download the raw file yet [01:18:03] 03(mod) Provide a way to alter page titles in category listings - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29975 +comment (10ShoeMaker) [01:18:36] JRWR_: See if the thumbs mediawiki makes can be optimized, if so makes sure it makes them optimal in the first place [01:18:48] that's probably going to be more useful [01:22:44] looks like the thumbs are optimized [01:22:56] ran it with optipng -0 7 [01:24:52] Ok, and one more question [01:24:59] ./maintenance/storage/compressOld.php [01:25:16] I run it once a month, seems to work really well (yes Compress Reversions setting is on in mediawiki) [01:25:22] compressed* [01:33:33] New review: Trevor Parscal; "I will be submitting a patch set that addresses the issues I've mentioned in just a minute." [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4769 [01:34:07] New patchset: Trevor Parscal; "Add simple warning to indicate that VE is still in early dev." [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4769 [01:34:07] dumpBackup.php runs fine on one installation, but in another installation on same server it outputs a 0bit file. Any ideas? [01:36:05] HALP! dumpBackup.php runs fine on one installation, but in another installation on same server it outputs a 0bit file. Any ideas? [01:38:21] z0koo: sorry, no ideas... any errors? [01:38:47] z0koo: just in case it helps, have you tried running with E_STRICT? [01:38:51] not sure how to output errors to a file, but nothing in the CLI... just dies when it hits the main namespace and that's it [01:39:50] z0koo: is this on a unix box? do you have strace installed there? [01:40:07] * hexmode is a big fan of strace for debugging [01:40:16] nix yes. is that the package name to zypp in? [01:40:59] zypp? but, yes, it should be named strace ... at least it is in ubuntu [01:41:41] ah, opensuse [01:41:47] zypper = aptitude for Suse [01:41:54] yep [01:43:00] so, try installing it and then do "strace -o /tmp/output.log COMMAND LINE" [01:43:26] then, look at there is an obvious crash or something at the end of /tmp/output.log [01:47:49] New review: Catrope; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4769 [01:47:52] Change merged: Catrope; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4769 [01:49:27] hexmode would you mind taking a look at this pastebin of the tail of the strace out? http://dpaste.com/730416/ [01:49:42] * hexmode looks [01:51:23] z0koo: I'm not sure why urandom would be read during a dump, what is your command line? [01:53:46] strace -o /output.log php dumpBackup.php --current /wikidump.xml [01:54:17] z0koo: you're writing to root? [01:54:37] unfortunately, im uncertain of many things regarding this installation, I've been handed the project like a few other admins before me. [01:54:42] yes, root shell [01:54:48] oo yeah [01:55:08] i did just for the hell of it. [01:55:17] heh [01:55:23] not a good idea? [01:55:51] New review: Catrope; "The second query has a typo, af_activity_count should be af_suppress_count. Apart from that this is ..." [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4188 [01:56:02] I almost never run as root, and wouldn't write to /, but its your life :) [01:58:45] *realizations flooding [01:59:30] the command itself isn't faulted beyond that though? [02:09:33] z0koo: I don't know... it doesn't look like it is segfaulting, but maybe there is a problem with accel settings [02:15:34] TimStarling: Did you get my email? Just want to make sure you see it. [02:15:47] yes [02:15:50] kk [02:25:12] 03(mod) Separate projects and groups - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35874 +comment (10Ryan Lane) [02:29:06] hexmode: removed cache wg's from localsettings.php , wrote outputs to /tmp , still no xml, error out still shows call to urandom. could it have something to do with a corrupted database? the initial reason we're migrating is because 18.2 installation told us our PHP and libXML configurations were a bad mix that could lead to data corruption [02:29:44] *versions , not configs [02:29:48] z0koo: I suppose it could, can you use mysqldump? [02:43:30] 03(mod) Reports of secret key generation "hanging" on windows - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35894 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [03:08:07] after upgrade or install do we need to keep config/ ? or we can remove it ? [03:18:28] 03(mod) iOS 4.2 Large article loading is slow while we inject content into the dom - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35843 +comment (10Yuvi Panda) [03:19:12] 03(FIXED) Don't block loading the settings screen while waiting on the lang list to load - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34879 (10Yuvi Panda) [03:21:15] 03(FIXED) About Menu title bar off-centre - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35224 +comment (10Yuvi Panda) [03:21:50] 03(FIXED) Hitting clear in Saved Pages shows index.html title - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35835 +comment (10Yuvi Panda) [03:22:33] 03(mod) All menu text is shown as "null" before the UI is fully initialized. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35845 +comment (10Yuvi Panda) [03:23:09] 03(FIXED) Contributor list has duplicates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34758 (10Yuvi Panda) [03:23:50] 03(FIXED) Huge amount of debug spew during page save/load in app - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34989 +comment (10Yuvi Panda) [03:24:23] 03(mod) Delay when clicking the share, bookmark, settings buttons on the bottom panel - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35762 +comment (10Yuvi Panda) [03:24:33] 03(mod) Delay when clicking the share, bookmark, settings buttons on the bottom panel - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35762 (10Yuvi Panda) [03:25:07] 03(FIXED) Back button on the settings page doesn't work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35765 +comment (10Yuvi Panda) [03:25:40] 14(DUP) Wikipedia Mobile on iOS is sluggish after button presses - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35778 +comment (10Yuvi Panda) [03:25:40] 03(mod) Delay when clicking the share, bookmark, settings buttons on the bottom panel - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35762 +comment (10Yuvi Panda) [03:26:10] 03(FIXED) Wikipedia Android app (iOS) PhoneGap app 1.0 release (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33673 +comment (10Yuvi Panda) [03:28:06] 14(INVALID) Save page goes to "Sorry, this page is not available" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33625 +comment (10Yuvi Panda) [03:28:34] 03(mod) Submit release to Amazon Appstore for Android - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33519 +comment (10Yuvi Panda) [03:48:44] New patchset: MarkAHershberger; "merge" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4770 [03:48:45] New patchset: MarkAHershberger; "s/append/prepend/" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4771 [03:50:21] 03(mod) Save page goes to "Sorry, this page is not available" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33625 +comment (10Phil Chang) [03:50:32] New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4770 [03:51:51] New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4771 [03:52:28] Change abandoned: MarkAHershberger; "oops didn't mean for this to be committed" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4770 [03:54:38] New review: MarkAHershberger; "hrm... sorry about the w/s" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4771 [04:32:13] 03(mod) Clicking on non-article links traps you in some other website - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35787 +comment (10Yuvi Panda) [04:32:41] 03(FIXED) Clicking on non-article links traps you in some other website - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35787 (10Yuvi Panda) [04:35:29] quick question about formatting, [04:35:49] using this, it makes for fixed width font, which is fine and all, however, it doesn't respect widths, which is problematic [04:36:07] is there a manner in which to get the source highlighting/fwf but respecting page width? [04:38:54] 03(mod) All menu text is shown as "null" before the UI is fully initialized. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35845 +comment (10Liangent) [04:38:56] I think there's a div mode, you should try that [04:38:56] 03(mod) Reports of secret key generation "hanging" on windows - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35894 +comment (10Daniel Friesen) [04:39:17] whoops [04:39:32] i was going to ask 'how do i only move-protect a page' but i found it in the handbook [04:39:32] 03(mod) Article content is shown below saved articles - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35847 +comment (10Liangent) [04:39:45] it could be rewritten to be more clear i guess [04:40:16] it's on a wiki isn't it? [04:41:23] 03(NEW) Link to /android from download.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35903 normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (liangent) [04:42:00] oh that page isn't protected, i thought it was [04:48:27] 03(mod) Link to /android from download.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35903 +comment (10MZMcBride) [04:49:17] 03(mod) Link to /android from download.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35903 +shell; +comment (10Liangent) [04:53:02] 03(mod) Link to /android from download.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35903 +comment (10MZMcBride) [04:55:40] 03(mod) Link to /android from download.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35903 +comment (10Liangent) [05:04:29] what is the best way to remove some tabs like : edit form mediawiki ? i was usuing dynamictabs ext but after the update to 1.18 it does not work with monobook [05:24:49] HeXiLeD: Remove them at what level? [05:24:53] So that people can't edit? [05:24:57] Or so that people just don't have the tab? [05:25:04] If it's just cosmetic, use CSS. [05:25:07] But edit tabs are useful. [05:25:18] So you'll probably need to restrict it to certain user groups. [05:25:26] I think newer MediaWiki installations do this natively. [05:25:32] Or you can do it trivially with JavaScript. [05:26:02] For rights shit, that's $wgGroupPermissions, but that only removes some tabs (move, protect, etc.). [05:26:08] Other tabs change name. [05:27:41] so that guests dont edit to see the page code [05:28:26] i would like to remove discussion, edit and history form anon visitors on vector skin [05:29:23] You just said two different things. [05:29:27] You want to do both? [05:29:37] You can remove the tabs and still allow people to see the wikicode. [05:29:50] I think you can also block viewing the wikicode. [05:44:22] yes that is the most important part .block viewing the wikicode [05:45:21] i had all this working with the extention : dynamic tabs but now it does not work even with monobook . so if i can block people from seeing the wikiconde some other way it works for me . [05:45:41] also if i can block then from see history and discussion would be great [05:47:21] 03(mod) Add API endpoint URL link somewhere in the pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35685 +comment (10Roan Kattouw) [05:47:32] Joan: what are my options ? [05:53:50] http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons_talk:Picture_of_the_Year/2011/Preparation&action=edit§ion=19 [05:54:01] is there any reason why that link does not generate an edit summary [05:54:25] http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons_talk:Picture_of_the_Year/2011/Preparation&action=edit§ion=18 does generate one [05:58:13] HeXiLeD: I think you can block specific actions with a variable. Check DefaultSettings.php. [05:58:24] !defaultsettings [05:58:24] http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/includes/DefaultSettings.php?view=markup [05:59:14] HeXiLeD: [05:59:15] > [05:59:16] 5363 * Array of disabled article actions, e.g. view, edit, delete, etc. [05:59:16] 5364 * @deprecated since 1.18; just set $wgActions['action'] = false instead [05:59:16] 5365 */ [05:59:19] 5366 $wgDisabledActions = array(); [05:59:20] yes? [05:59:21] > [05:59:24] So just do that. [05:59:27] Set the actions to disabled. [05:59:34] That should do it, I guess. [05:59:47] I'm not sure if that'll block API or RSS or other ways to access the wikitext. [05:59:55] Why are you trying to restrict it? [06:05:03] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgActions <-- this corrrect ? [06:06:09] personal reasons. i have 2 years of work there [06:06:21] and am the only editor [06:08:16] $wgActions['action=edit'] = false; or any other combinations do not seem to work. am i failing ? [06:16:14] morning [06:17:12] what can I do when someone is spreading misinformation about mediawiki? [06:19:08] nothing [06:19:29] if it is intentional [06:26:23] Nikerabbit: what kind of misinfo? [06:34:16] http://forum.paulgu.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=46 @ Joan and that solved it :) [06:34:36] freakolowsky: that mediawiki itself requires user agents [06:37:21] that's "mostly harmless", don't you think ... just contact them and educate them (IMO) [06:42:18] HeXiLeD: What is that? [06:42:22] You installed that extension? [06:46:37] 03(mod) XSS vulnerability scanner false positives - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34257 +comment (10Roan Kattouw) [06:49:59] How do I comment in gerrit ?, I have to reply to a comment from a reviewer [06:50:31] you need to click review from my understanding [06:52:49] nischayn22: just open gerrit account and u can reply to comments there itself.. [06:53:28] nischayn22: open the patchset.. and within that patchset the links are provided for your modified files. [06:54:03] nischayn22: jsut click on them.. it will take u ur modified file.. and there u will get a reply button below the comment.. [06:54:55] chughakshay16: thanks, looking [06:57:24] chughakshay16: I don't find it here https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#change,4707 [06:58:26] nischayn22: there are names given for ur files on that page..just see below(left- side) [06:58:48] nischayn22: did u see ? [06:59:12] chughakshay16: no :( [06:59:52] nischayn22: jsut below the patchset 1 heading..u see the author,commiter, ... [07:00:27] nischayn22: do u see it now ? :) [07:00:31] chughakshay16: yes I saw the files list [07:00:44] nischayn22: just click on those links [07:01:39] nischayn22: but no one has commented anything on ur patch.. [07:04:10] chughakshay16: there are comments on the patchset [07:04:24] chughakshay16: also do you know how to modify the commit msg? [07:04:52] nischayn22: u will have to do that from ur git bash.. [07:05:01] nischayn22: u can do that here in gerrit.. [07:05:07] *cant [07:05:16] chughakshay16: Ok thanks [07:05:54] chughakshay16: and those comments there are on the patchset right? [07:06:54] nischayn22: i dont see your comments [07:07:19] chughakshay16: not my comments, but from krinkle [07:07:38] nischayn22: i got ut point..what u need to do is just amend new changes(if any) that you want to make [07:07:41] nischayn22: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Workflow#Amend_your_change [07:07:59] nischayn22: which in ur case is just the commit message.. [07:08:14] hmm [07:08:25] nischayn22: so this time when you commit ur changes ... try to change ur commit message.. [07:09:26] chughakshay16: when I do git commit --amend -a, it will ask for a commit msg right? [07:09:35] yep [07:24:11] New review: Netbrain; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4609 [07:25:32] 03(mod) Add a keyboard layout display option to Narayam - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28900 +comment (10Siebrand) [07:33:30] New review: Werdna; "Thanks for fixing this, Amir!" [mediawiki/extensions/MoodBar] (master); V: 0 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4675 [07:33:43] chughakshay16: one more question, how do people make comments like I have in my change? [07:33:58] like the one Krinkle made [07:36:48] nischayn22: u can do that from gerrit web page itself.. [07:37:09] nischayn22: there is a review link on that page.. [07:37:31] nischayn22: just below the author, committer.. [07:37:39] chughakshay16: got it, thanks [07:37:45] that is what I was looking for [07:38:03] nischayn22: glad to help ! [07:47:16] New patchset: Nischayn22; "modified as per bug 35879" [mediawiki/extensions/WikiEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4707 [07:47:33] Ryan_Lane, heya. how did it go with that ldap auth problem ? :) [08:09:40] 03(mod) Request for a "request an article" extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29209 +comment (10Nischay Nahata) [08:21:55] New patchset: GWicke; "Track inclusion status on CachedTokenPipeline" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4772 [08:28:25] New patchset: Netbrain; "(bug 34852) new optional 'link' parameter to " [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4609 [08:30:11] New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Failed " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: -1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4609 [08:30:38] grr.. [08:35:40] New review: GWicke; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4772 [08:35:42] Change merged: GWicke; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4772 [08:41:33] New patchset: Netbrain; "(bug 34852) new optional 'link' parameter to " [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4609 [08:42:59] New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4609 [08:45:47] New patchset: Netbrain; "(bug 34852) new optional 'link' parameter to " [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4609 [08:46:12] New review: Netbrain; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4609 [08:47:10] New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4609 [08:47:12] New review: Netbrain; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4609 [08:59:59] 03(mod) [Regression] jquery.ui buttons order reversed in Vector - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35046 +comment (10Rainer@Rillke.eu) [09:01:50] New patchset: Hashar; "misleading comment: s/append/prepend/" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4771 [09:03:14] New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4771 [09:03:47] New review: Hashar; "Patchset 2 amends commit message." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4771 [09:03:50] Change merged: Hashar; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4771 [09:04:16] 03netbrain * 10/trunk/extensions/SideBarMenu/ (4 files in 2 dirs): added customization of css styling on menu items |class and |style parameter: [09:26:56] New review: Liangent; "aaron, what's the exact issue now, Just performance?" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/3367 [09:35:49] New patchset: Szymon ?wierkosz; "Replace deprecated $wgUser->getSkin() call." [mediawiki/extensions/ProofreadPage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4773 [09:39:32] 03(mod) Extended characters show up as "?" in Gerrit user names - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35626 +comment (10Niklas Laxström) [09:48:43] 03netbrain * 10/trunk/extensions/SideBarMenu/css/ext.sidebarmenu.css: Changed css ever so slightly [09:51:36] New review: Nikerabbit; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4723 [09:55:05] New review: Nikerabbit; "Looking for FIXME tag." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4741 [09:56:51] Nikerabbit: you need to -1 it for "fixme" [09:57:04] if that is what you mean by that comment [10:00:32] p858snake|l: please [10:00:39] p858snake|l: it's already merged [10:00:50] fixme is for issues post-review [10:01:07] we have no "fixme" in gitworld [10:02:28] 03(NEW) rebuildLanguage.php notices - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35904 normal; MediaWiki: Maintenance scripts; (jeroen_dedauw) [10:07:18] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "duration formatter, makes time in sec easy to read" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4629 [10:07:54] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "Ran rebuildLanguage.php as Siebrand suggested" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4629 [10:08:44] New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4629 [10:12:17] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4629 [10:13:39] 03(mod) Commits from the l10n-bot should be merged immediately - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35537 +comment (10Niklas Laxström) [10:15:57] JeroenDeDauw: that has been fixed in master [10:16:06] just update [10:16:13] Nikerabbit: what? [10:16:29] rebuildLanguage.php notices [10:17:05] www/phase3$ git pull [10:17:05] Already up-to-date. [10:17:08] Nikerabbit: ^^ [10:17:16] incorrect branch then? [10:17:29] 03(NEW) Change namespaces configuration - pl.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35905 normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (beau) [10:18:01] Nikerabbit: SO I guess when doing git review -d 4242, I should merge in master on the review branch before making any changes? [10:18:32] You know what the worst thing about git review is... [10:18:45] `git help review` does not open up a manual page. [10:19:07] when is the 1.19 will be out? [10:19:21] ...so the reference that's supposed to be there telling you what the arguments do isnt. [10:19:25] JeroenDeDauw: I don't know :/ [10:19:27] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#change,4640 [10:23:03] when is the 1.19 will be out? [10:23:34] !1.19 [10:23:34] Branched at r110996 on 9 Feb 2012. http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.science.linguistics.wikipedia.technical/56919 Deployed to Wikimedia sites in Feb/March 2012. Tracking 1.19 bugs at https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?resolution=---&target_milestone=1.19.0%20release&list_id=98470 1.19.0beta2 released 27 March 2012 http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/mediawiki-announce/2012-March/000111.html [10:23:44] I'd say in few months [10:23:48] maybe sooner [10:23:57] Reedy: ? [10:25:10] do you thing beta is stable? [10:25:53] think [10:26:12] I think Reedy was planning weeks compared to months [10:28:29] p858snake|l: yeah but really, it's been in beeta for two months, what can you expect? [10:28:46] I know he was hoping for a i18n update first, but he isn't going to let that block it [10:29:09] 03(NEW) Don't send JavaScript to incompatible browser - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35906 normal; MediaWiki: Resource Loader; (listenleser) [10:29:12] because i have a popular wii in brazil in version 1.16 [10:29:15] wiki [10:29:52] Nikerabbit: I belive the major reason was git (and Dantman's security stuff) [10:31:08] New review: Nikerabbit; "I'd like to have the number calculation separated from the formatting with messages.." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4629 [10:31:57] edgard_: yes you should upgrade and not wait [10:32:38] thanks [10:34:44] 03(mod) drop image file sometimes creates no thumb and does not complete - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34667 +comment (10drecodeam) [10:36:01] 03(mod) Enhance line matching in diffs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/13462 15enhancement->normal; +comment (10Niklas Laxström) [10:37:25] hey guys, i need a review! https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#change,4609 [10:39:58] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "So you want patch set one instead of two? If you want to have an argument about style changes, pleas..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4629 [10:40:01] New review: Netbrain; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/ProofreadPage] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4773 [10:40:28] is it possible to upgrade 1,16 directly to 1.19b? [10:43:12] edgard_: should be. but please note 1.19 is a beta [10:43:24] edgard_: and make sure to read the UPGRADE file AND do a database backup [10:43:46] edgard_: if the wiki is of any use, you should upgrade to latest 1.18 (and still do a database backup before upgrading) [10:43:55] * hashar goes to take some more coffee [10:44:19] the wiki has 4k access/day [10:44:45] we had 40k/day in carnival [10:45:14] ok, i though 1.19b was stable [10:51:29] New review: Nikerabbit; "It's not about style. It's about having two functions: one for calculating the numbers and other one..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4629 [11:03:38] how can i install yes/no templates in my own wiki? do i have to manually create each template myself or is there a way to install them? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Table_cell_templates/doc [11:04:09] !export | netbrain [11:04:09] netbrain: To export pages from a wiki, navigate to Special:Export on the wiki, type in the names of the pages to export, and hit "export". See for an example of this form. See also: !import [11:04:23] saper: thanks [11:04:31] your welcome [11:04:39] s,your,you are, [11:05:58] !import [11:05:59] To import pages a few pages, use Special:Import - you can also import pages directly from another wiki (see !importsources). For mass imports, use importDump.php - see for details. NOTE: when using content from another wiki, follow the LICENSE TERMS, especially, attribute source and authors! [11:25:32] New review: Victor Vasiliev; "Fine." [mediawiki/extensions/CentralAuth] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4673 [11:25:35] Change merged: Victor Vasiliev; [mediawiki/extensions/CentralAuth] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4673 [11:34:57] !seen ialex [11:37:33] 03(WONTFIX) Jenkins should not accept PHP files with spurious output (without New patchset: Drecodeam; "(bug 32246) Weird behavior when clicking on the name or the thumbnail of the file" [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4778 [12:09:53] hi, I am trying to deploy mw in a Linode Server, after when I load the page, the setup wizard comes up, but when I click on "set up the wiki" I get this error [12:09:53] Error starting session: session_start(): open(/var/lib/php5/sess_n5praos260pbi63iis4p32o044, O_RDWR) failed: Permission denied (13) [12:09:53] what to do? [12:14:16] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "Right ok, that makes sense, will take care of this later today :)" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4629 [12:15:59] Who can put mw-bot in an extra channel? [12:17:11] New patchset: Victor Vasiliev; "Implement the support of tag for MediaWiki." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4779 [12:17:27] *cough*... what!? [12:17:27] JeroenDeDauw: help Error starting session: session_start(): open(/var/lib/php5/sess_n5praos260pbi63iis4p32o044, O_RDWR) failed: Permission denied (13) [12:18:30] sup vvv [12:18:38] New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4779 [12:18:57] * MaxTroll renames vvv to vvvTroll [12:19:00] New review: Daniel Friesen; "No, the other direction... we need to add blink to our css blacklist!" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4779 [12:19:43] I got it :D [12:20:21] darkowlzzzz: ?? [12:21:25] JeroenDeDauw: np, found the solution :) [12:21:34] sorry for disturbance [12:21:56] I need some git help - the Maps and Semantic Maps extensions are missing most of their version histories in the new git repos. Appears to be caused by them branching at some point. Anyone know how to fix? [12:22:18] 03(NEW) MediaWiki:Pagesize customization - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35907 normal; MediaWiki: User interface; (Technical_13) [12:22:22] 03(mod) Jenkins job: PHP code style analyzer - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35588 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [12:22:45] 03(mod) MediaWiki:Pagesize customization - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35907 +comment (10ShoeMaker) [12:23:15] ashley, what don't you like about and ? [12:25:44] New review: MaxSem; "VVV, don't listen to non-trolls!" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4779 [12:29:08] 03(NEW) Is there a way to get the post-expand {{PAGESIZE:page name}}? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35908 normal; MediaWiki: Parser; (Technical_13) [12:30:12] 03(mod) Is there a way to get the post-expand {{PAGESIZE:page name}}? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35908 +comment (10ShoeMaker) [12:35:26] 03petrb * 10/trunk/extensions/Drafts/ (Drafts.hooks.php Drafts.js Drafts.php): [12:35:27] - New option to allow bypass check for user input and save the backup even if user is changing text [12:35:27] - Adjusted the timeout for slow connections, previous value was too low [12:37:36] 03(NEW) How do I use an external image and have it click-able with an internal link? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35909 normal; MediaWiki: Images and files; (Technical_13) [12:38:42] 03(mod) How do I use an external image and have it click-able with an internal link? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35909 +comment (10ShoeMaker) [12:53:43] Krinkle: i'm getting $.messageBoxNew is not a function [12:54:02] Are you sure that is the name? is that module defined? [12:54:05] is it loaded? [12:54:05] although it's not being used [12:54:12] where are you getting that error [12:54:42] ah messageBoxNew is the new name it was renamed [12:54:55] 03(NEW) errors about *.min.js when loading a MobileFrontend on Firefox - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35910 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend; (amir.aharoni) [12:55:00] New review: Demon; "Is this a joke?" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4779 [12:55:14] Krinkle: cswikiquote using debug true [12:55:53] New review: Krinkle; "April fools is over folks :P" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4779 [12:56:00] Danny_B|backup: link :) [12:57:14] New review: Amire80; "Right-to-left text runs in the wrong direction." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4779 [12:57:25] Krinkle: any page eg. https://cs.wikiquote.org/wiki/Wikicit%C3%A1ty:Hlavn%C3%AD%20strana?debug=true [12:57:55] Danny_B|backup: Yes, I see it now [12:58:01] Danny_B|backup: but where are you seeing the error [12:58:11] 14(WFM) errors about *.min.js when loading a MobileFrontend on Firefox - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35910 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [12:58:13] firebug console [12:58:22] Danny_B|backup: Do you see the other error? [12:58:25] $.messageBoxNew is not a function [12:58:25] [Zastavit při této chybě] [12:58:26] parent: '#content' [12:58:33] mediawiki.util.js (řádek 20) [12:58:40] I know [12:58:45] nope i don't, i just get this one [12:58:52] Failed to load resource: the server responded with a status of 404 (Not Found) [12:59:05] https://cs.wikiquote.org/w/resources-1.19/resources/jquery/jquery.messageBox.js [12:59:23] finally, I can press resource path on robla now, it's breaking something on a 1.19 wiki [12:59:24] yay [12:59:43] i don't get that error [12:59:52] but good you do, so you know what's going on [13:00:38] huh, now i'm getting 2 others [13:00:53] 04(REOPENED) errors about *.min.js when loading a MobileFrontend on Firefox - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35910 +comment (10Max Semenik) [13:00:56] jq delayed bind and jquery makecollapsible [13:01:00] Krinkle: that *might* be a squid error [13:01:02] also not loaded [13:01:03] Change abandoned: Demon; "April Fool's jokes are funny on April Fools, but let's abandon this one before Brion gets merge-happ..." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4779 [13:01:06] ie cached 404 [13:01:35] I purged them all for enwiki [13:01:37] Reedy: maybe, maybe not [13:01:37] Krinkle: https://en.wikiquote.org/w/resources-1.19/resources/jquery/jquery.messageBox.js [13:01:38] works etc [13:01:43] but resoruces-xxx wasn't used in 1.19 [13:01:45] I'm 99% sure it is [13:01:54] Krinkle: so you know what is the cause [13:02:02] Nikerabbit: read the bug please [13:02:10] I know the cause, fix and solution [13:02:25] Purge the cache [13:02:27] ok [13:02:36] Give me 30 seconds to prove a point [13:02:51] Clock's ticking. [13:02:57] there wan't anything there when i last read it [13:02:58] * Reedy beats Joan [13:03:04] Now the other cheek. [13:03:58] reedy@fenari:~$ echo "https://cs.wikiquote.org/w/resources-1.19/resources/jquery/jquery.messageBox.js" | mwscript purgeList.php enwiki [13:03:58] Purging 1 urls [13:03:58] Done! [13:04:24] Hmm [13:04:30] https://cs.wikiquote.org/w/resources-1.19/resources/jquery/jquery.messageBox.js?3 < random parameters also make it work [13:05:09] Reedy: so yesterday when the aliases where changed to include version number in resources path, that broke everything for 1.19 wikis (although most paths use bits, in debug mode for core/extensions and in any mode for extensions) the local paths are used. [13:05:25] until cache is purged [13:05:32] or is this an isolated case [13:05:36] I'm not usre [13:05:37] sure [13:05:51] hi, how should I configure the user-config.py file in order to use it with an URL such as http://mw.mysite.com/ ? [13:06:04] ...with the pywikipedia bot [13:06:12] should I use 'mw' as the 'mylang' var ? [13:06:27] Hmm [13:06:34] ![[ Pywikibot [13:06:35] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Pywikibot [13:06:58] fucking session stuff, arg! [13:07:06] no not again [13:07:14] One thing that is strange [13:07:15] lrwxrwxrwx 1 reedy wikidev 54 2012-04-10 20:29 extensions-1.20wmf1 -> /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.20wmf1/extensions [13:07:27] lrwxrwxrwx 1 reedy wikidev 43 2012-04-11 19:26 resources-1.20wmf1 -> /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.20wmf1 [13:07:36] uh? [13:07:37] Is why resources seems to need to point one dir higher [13:09:33] Or should /w/resources-1.19/jquery/jquery.messageBox.js work? [13:10:51] # 1.18 hack -aaron 9/21/11 [13:10:51] $wgResourceBasePath = "/w/resources-$wmfVersionNumber"; [13:11:02] * Reedy checks how said variable is then used [13:12:52] http://cs.wikiquote.org/w/resources-1.19/resources/jquery/jquery.messageBox.js [13:13:02] do I need to enable anything on my wiki before using pywikipediabot (mod, extensions, etc.) ? [13:14:26] Reedy: its working correctly now [13:14:31] https://www.mediawiki.org/w/resources-1.19/resources/jquery/jquery.js 1.7.1 [13:14:37] https://www.mediawiki.org/w/resources-1.20wmf1/resources/jquery/jquery.js 1.7.2 [13:14:41] perfect [13:14:57] right, good [13:15:00] uh [13:15:01] no [13:15:07] resources/resources ??? [13:15:25] Yeah, i've nfi where that's come from [13:15:36] lets see what resoruceloader is targetting [13:16:05] 03(mod) Install ConfirmAccount extension on Wikimedia wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/13782 +comment (10Oliver Keyes) [13:16:12] Reedy: https://cs.wikiquote.org/w/load.php?debug=true&modules=jquery.messageBox [13:16:20] ["//cs.wikiquote.org/w/resources-1.19/resources/jquery/jquery.messageBox.js"] [13:16:25] well, as long as it is consistent [13:16:28] xD [13:16:36] lol [13:16:49] but w AND resources-version AND resources is definiflly overkil [13:16:54] it'd be neater to remove the 2nd /resources/... [13:16:55] yes [13:17:19] skins-version alias used to be in root even (above /w) [13:17:37] maybe this was a typo in the version-creation script on wmf? [13:17:48] those symlinks are created automatically? [13:17:49] Not sure [13:17:51] Semi [13:18:14] btw, is wgResourceBasePath just within wmf-config or also hacked into mediawiki itself? [13:18:21] !bs wgResourceBasePath [13:18:21] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=wgResourceBasePath [13:18:31] It's in core [13:18:41] b 31173 [13:18:44] !b 31173 [13:18:44] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31173 [13:18:45] since when? [13:18:54] $path = "$commonHomeDir/live-1.5/resources-$dstVersionNum"; [13:18:54] $link = "$commonLocalDir/php-$dstVersionNum"; [13:18:54] createSymlink( $path, $link, "Created live-1.5/resources-$dstVersionNum symlink." ); [13:19:01] A while [13:19:14] Config is noted as adding it for 1.18 [13:19:20] so I'm guessing it went into core 1.18/1.19 [13:19:43] Reedy: is "live-1.5" the global all-wiki /w ? [13:19:49] I think so, yes [13:19:51] ok [13:19:56] seems to match up [13:20:24] that explains why load.php on mw.org is 1.19 -ish [13:20:25] not important though, that's never used since wgLoadScript is set to bits.wm.o/mw.o/ [13:21:39] Reedy: I'm trying to find the mw-multi-version files in svn/git that do this sub loading of the right one from this central path, is that public? I can't find it [13:21:46] I think it is [13:21:47] moment [13:21:48] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/?debug=true [13:21:48] e.g. that requires index.php for the right version [13:21:51] ^ does that load for you [13:22:01] Yes [13:22:20] http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/tools/mwmultiversion/ [13:22:40] just my laptop being stupid then [13:23:37] I don't see the rerouters though [13:23:52] maybe they're programmatically created, reading files now [13:24:08] index.php is [13:24:09] require_once( './MWVersion.php' ); [13:24:09] require getMediaWiki( 'index.php' ); [13:24:23] so MWVersion.php should be your starting point [13:25:21] Krinkle: just listening to a story about you :D http://youtu.be/TOdo7dhvSwg [13:25:34] Before I click that link, I suspect Mr. Krinkle? [13:25:42] lol [13:25:45] :D [13:25:46] yeah, good ol Primus [13:26:04] It's one of 2 search hits that pollute my name space [13:26:10] the other is some guys blog on krinkle.net [13:26:11] a band so awsome it has it's own ID3 genre tag :D [13:26:16] neither the some or the blog is mine [13:26:24] freakolowsky: lol [13:26:36] song* [13:27:00] Reedy: ok, thx [13:27:22] Reedy: gow do i find previous release branches in this gerrit thingie [13:27:35] i know somone told me already, but i forgot :S [13:27:46] !gitweb [13:27:46] For core: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?p=mediawiki/core.git [13:28:41] that's core ... what about release branchses such as 1_17 [13:28:48] look at the bottom [13:29:10] oh ... sry ... just looked at the link [13:29:18] :p [13:30:32] Reedy: http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/tools/mwmultiversion/multiversion/deleteMediaWiki?revision=100522&view=markup#l39 [13:30:38] there they look ssane [13:30:43] no odd paths [13:31:05] although resources should probably be on bits as well [13:31:09] Does anyone knows how I can search for changes made on JS code in gerrit? [13:31:11] Per https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/Documentation/user-search.html#file [13:31:13] I could use something like "file:^.*\.js", but this gives [13:31:15] ---- [13:31:17] Application Error [13:31:19] Server Error [13:31:21] Invalid query: file:^.*\.js [13:31:23] operator not permitted here: file:^.*\.js [13:31:25] ---- [13:31:27] Did I do something wrong? [13:31:31] not sure why we're going for local /w/resources-{version}/resources instead of bits.wm.o/resources-{version}/ [13:31:46] dang this stuff is inconsistent [13:31:57] bits/skins-$dstVersionNum and bits/w/extensions-$dstVersionNum [13:32:11] but live-1.5/extensions-$dstVersionNum and live-1.5/skins-$dstVersionNum [13:32:40] Ask Aaron! [13:32:49] helderwiki: afaik gerrit doesn't support file/dir filters, but that would be nice [13:32:54] even just a simple prefix search [13:33:36] Krinkle: so, the docs are outdated? (aka bug 1) [13:33:37] 03(NEW) direction in MobileFrontent is always based on the wiki's content language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35911 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend; (amir.aharoni) [13:33:37] 03(mod) RTL/bidirectional issues (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/745 (10Amir E. Aharoni) [13:33:37] Dantman: Aww, It won't generate me a hex of 4096 ^ 4096 [13:33:37] <^demon> Krinkle: It does but only on projects you're watching. [13:33:38] :p [13:33:55] how i hate when js features are changed and nobody cares about fixing scripts on wikis or at least document the transition :-/ [13:34:35] Danny_B|backup: The bug you reported just now has no relation to javascript changes, it was a cache or 1.20 wmf-config issue [13:34:41] oh, duh [13:34:44] or do you mean something else? [13:35:00] ^demon: do you mean "is:watched file:^.*\.js"? [13:35:03] there's no js canoes in 1.19 or 1.20 that should be visible to the user [13:35:04] yup. adding custom buttons to old toolbar [13:35:06] changes* [13:35:07] it gives the same error [13:35:21] Danny_B|backup: That hasn't changed actually [13:35:30] it has actually ;-) [13:35:35] Danny_B|backup: Its been made easier, but old behavior hasn't changed [13:35:55] however edge cases that previously only people on slow connections saw are now more visible [13:36:02] trust me, if the old script does not work, then it has been changed ;-) [13:36:10] <^demon> Oh crap, that doesn't work on the search bar. It only works on watch rules. [13:36:14] it's always been so that they are inserted in order of execution, and order of execution is not and cannot be fixed. [13:36:28] Danny_B|backup: Do you mean the button order? [13:36:35] <^demon> So you could watch project:mediawiki/core, file:^.*\.php [13:36:40] 03(mod) Reports of secret key generation "hanging" on windows - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35894 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [13:37:49] ^demon: where do I define watch rules? [13:38:00] I tried https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#settings,projects [13:38:15] Krinkle: i mean adding of buttons in general [13:38:36] ^demon: but got "The page you requested was not found." [13:38:53] <^demon> I'm looking at it right now :\ [13:38:58] got it [13:39:04] (i think) [13:39:32] Project name == mediawiki/core [13:39:34] Only If == file:^.*\.js [13:39:36] worked [13:39:39] 03(mod) Reports of secret key generation "hanging" on windows - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35894 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [13:39:47] Danny_B|backup: Please open/re-open/bump bugs, I can't help in this way [13:40:23] getting back to [[CI]] now :) [13:40:26] ^demon: er... not really... the regex part does nothing =( [13:40:53] <^demon> Watching only works for changes from here on out, not for existing ones afaik. [13:41:29] <^demon> Or not? [13:41:30] <^demon> Hrm. [13:41:32] <^demon> I have no clue. [13:41:35] hmm.. [13:41:52] =/ [13:41:58] 03(mod) Reports of secret key generation "hanging" on windows - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35894 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [13:42:24] <^demon> helderwiki: I've not used the file: searches yet, so I'm not really familiar with them. You might try asking in #gerrit, because the docs are sub-par here. [13:42:42] "sub-par"? [13:42:58] <^demon> The docs are bad :) [13:43:07] Dantman: looks like it's just some broken versions of PHP... [13:47:00] New patchset: GWicke; "Token stream transform improvements" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4780 [13:47:16] ^demon or Reedy, do you think we could change the "1.20alpha (git master)" version in bugzilla to something perhaps without spaces and/or parentheses? I'm trying to create a link similar to https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=MediaWiki&version=1.19-svn which automatically selects the version, but I can't get it to work with "1.20alpha (git master)". [13:48:10] guillom: I can [13:48:23] <^demon> guillom: "Version renamed to 1.20-git." [13:48:28] Krinkle: you can... create a link that works, or change the version label? :) [13:48:35] guillom: both [13:48:39] ^demon: ah, thanks [13:48:51] guillom: If you're inserting template parameters into urls, always use {{urlencode:}} [13:49:23] <^demon> We should go ahead and combine the 1.16 versions into 1.16.x now that it's an old release. [13:49:47] Krinkle: I'm not doing that, I was just trying to get a working link [13:49:52] ok [13:50:16] New patchset: Elizabeth M Smith; "Fix for bug 35391 activity bug count issues" [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4188 [13:50:24] %20 or + works too, but I agree without looks prettier [13:51:04] 03(mod) After switch to NGINX, question marks stripped from title in URL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30814 (10Krinkle) [13:51:05] 03(mod) FileSearch does not work with MySQL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27300 (10Krinkle) [13:51:05] New review: GWicke; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4780 [13:51:08] Change merged: GWicke; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4780 [13:51:09] 03(mod) MediaWiki 1.16.5 does not produce valid XHTML - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29349 (10Krinkle) [13:51:10] 03(mod) RSS feed for watchlist throws fatal error when underlying db is postgres - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28070 (10Krinkle) [13:51:11] 03(mod) Special:RecentChanges not translated when changing lanuage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29953 (10Krinkle) [13:51:11] 03(mod) Error in LinkHolderArray::replaceInternal function - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29606 (10Krinkle) [13:51:12] 03(mod) category list not updated upon file import - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28666 (10Krinkle) [13:51:13] 03(mod) Cannot login when database is on a different server than the webserver - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28097 (10Krinkle) [13:51:14] 03(mod) \n not escaped in /includes/OutputPage.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28949 (10Krinkle) [13:51:14] 03(mod) User.php : make $_SESSION parameters wiki-database specific ("per-wiki"). Cookies are already. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27309 (10Krinkle) [13:51:15] 03(mod) Doctype for Internet Explorer 9.0 if HTML5 is enabled - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28471 (10Krinkle) [13:51:16] 03(mod) Login sometimes causes unexpected "Login Error" message - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32363 (10Krinkle) [13:51:17] 03(mod) hardcoded reference to commons.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29933 (10Krinkle) [13:51:18] 03(mod) maintenance/changePassword.php does not purge (APC) cache - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30850 (10Krinkle) [13:51:19] ^demon: 1.16.* to 1.16.x [13:51:20] 03(mod) Update-script does not work properly when xcache is enabled - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28752 (10Krinkle) [13:51:20] 03(mod) gets parsed within
 in templates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29879  (10Krinkle)
[13:51:21] 	 03(mod) Database connection errors display IP address - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/26811  (10Krinkle)
[13:51:22] 	 03(mod) Anonymous users see sysop links due to UserID cookie - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31845  (10Krinkle)
[13:51:22] 	 03(mod) Logged in status incorrectly displayed after a PHP session timeout - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32364  (10Krinkle)
[13:51:23] 	 03(mod) Backslash-escaped comments allow CSS injection vulnerability - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28450  (10Krinkle)
[13:51:24] 	 03(mod) wfEmptyMsg doc - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28641  (10Krinkle)
[13:51:25] 	 03(mod) "Content" word in heading gets rendered with id="content" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29480  (10Krinkle)
[13:51:25] 	 03(mod) Headline below table not rendered - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28793  (10Krinkle)
[13:51:26] 	 03(mod) Title::getUserPermissionsErrors() does wierd things to StubObjects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28245  (10Krinkle)
[13:51:27] 	 03(mod) illegally named upload files not handled consistently. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27980  (10Krinkle)
[13:51:29] 	 03(mod) Running upgrade.php shows postgres error when databse user contains a '-' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27348  (10Krinkle)
[13:51:29] 	 03(mod) License Template not loaded in file upoad - IE8 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31139  (10Krinkle)
[13:51:30] 	 03(mod) Mediawiki: German Translation - Insert Link-window - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31229  (10Krinkle)
[13:51:31] 	 03(mod) mediawiki_mysql2postgres.pl doesn't work with non-empty $table_prefix - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28103  (10Krinkle)
[13:51:32] 	 03(mod) Undefined property: UploadFromFile::$mFileProps in UploadBase - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27656  (10Krinkle)
[13:51:32] 	 03(mod) Language file path traversal - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27094  (10Krinkle)
[13:51:33] 	 03(mod) One multibyte character in parser function output kills all article content - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28748  (10Krinkle)
[13:51:34] 	 03(mod) Mediawiki prevents you from selecting files that are not in the $wgFileExtensions array, even when $wgCheckFileExtensions is set to false - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27128  (10Krinkle)
[13:51:34] 	 03(mod) Upload fails: could not remove file from /tmp to /images/**/*/ - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27919  (10Krinkle)
[13:51:34] <^demon>	 Krinkle: I was going to disable BZ spam first :\
[13:51:35] 	 03(mod) Setting $wgStrictFileExtensions to false gives incorrect warning - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29325  (10Krinkle)
[13:51:35] 	 03(mod) Error when importing .bz2 dump file - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27065  (10Krinkle)
[13:51:35] * Reedy  beats Krinkle
[13:51:37] 	 03(mod) Special:AllMessages throws "Object of class Title to string conversion" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27665  (10Krinkle)
[13:51:38] 	 03(mod)  fails to include , and instead it is parsed and EXCLUDED - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29889  (10Krinkle)
[13:51:38] 	 03(mod)  is escaped inside 
 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28659  (10Krinkle)
[13:51:39] 	 03(mod) $wgUseGzip is not working - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/26243  (10Krinkle)
[13:51:39] 	 03(mod) SquidPurgeClient fails on FreeBSD; incorrect constants + MSG_EOR w/ SOCK_STREAM - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27658  (10Krinkle)
[13:51:40] 	 03(mod) Unauthorised access to transwiki import - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28449  (10Krinkle)
[13:51:41] 	 03(mod) Value of $wgDocType has no effect in default 1.16.2 install - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28350  (10Krinkle)
[13:51:41] 	 03(mod) XSS: Incorrect patch for bug 28235 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28507  (10Krinkle)
[13:51:45] 	 ^demon: transparency !
[13:52:05] <^demon>	 When I mass-change versions I disable the spam :\
[13:52:26] 	 in bz admin or muting wikibugs ?
[13:53:23] <^demon>	 In BZ admin
[13:53:35] <^demon>	 I set e-mail -> None temporarily, do the mass change, then turn it back to SMTP.
[13:53:50] 	 okay, doing 1.16 and 1.16.0 now
[13:55:10] 	 mail_delivery_method=None
[13:55:36] 	 03(mod) Regression? Clicking on non-existing image link does not redirect to upload anymore - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28891  (10Krinkle)
[13:55:36] 	 03(mod) is_ff2 in wikibits.js will break on Firefox 10 and later - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32147  (10Krinkle)
[13:55:37] 	 03(mod) Wrong information in UPGRADE file - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22942  (10Chad H.)
[13:55:40] 	 03(mod) CSS injection vulnerability (comment stripping) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27093  (10Krinkle)
[13:55:40] 	 03(mod) MediaWiki doesn't parse HTML table attributes within a template inclusion - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28252  (10Krinkle)
[13:55:41] 	 03(mod) Cannot show logo on zh.wikipedia using IE6 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/23632  (10Krinkle)
[13:55:42] 	 03(mod) stub link color not changed to dark red in NewPages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/21052  (10Krinkle)
[13:55:42] 	 03(mod) interwiki transclusion fails with "Cannot redeclare class HttpRequest" error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28929  (10Krinkle)
[13:55:42] <^demon>	 Laggg
[13:55:43] 	 03(mod) ../maintenance/postgres/tables.sql not found - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28854  (10Krinkle)
[13:55:44] 	 03(mod) in /include/db/LoadBalancer.php function "closeConnecton" should be called "closeConnection" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/26895  (10Krinkle)
[13:55:44] 	 03(mod) IE8 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31143  (10Krinkle)
[13:55:45] 	 03(mod) Header of vector is messed up in extremely narrow browser window - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29333  (10Krinkle)
[13:55:45] 	 03(mod) Bug with links in Parser->serialiseHalfParsedText() - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30129  (10Krinkle)
[13:55:46] 	 03(mod) Native name of Rusyn language is not correctly written at Wikipedia sites - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27086  (10Krinkle)
[13:56:02] 	 Krinkle: bug 35906 is most likely a dupe...
[13:56:10] 	 Krinkle: 1.16.x ?!? ... oRLY?
[13:56:32] 	 Krinkle: what is the point of such changes ? :-D
[13:56:52] 	 names can  be changed without changing the bugs themselves, they are linked with an id in the db
[13:56:55] 	 the change here is merge
[13:56:59] 	 that requires changing the bugs
[13:57:09] 	 merging 1.16.0,1.16.1,1.16.2 etc.
[13:57:16] 	 and 1.16-svn
[13:57:25] 	 oh :d
[13:57:39] 	 so are you removing 1.16.0 1.16.1 etc.. ?
[13:57:45] 	 yes
[13:57:52] 	 :-(
[13:57:57] 	 per 100% consensus with ^demon 
[13:57:58] 	 :P
[13:58:16] 	 Gerrit teaches us that +2 is enoguh
[13:58:19] 	 I guess that is to get a shorter list of choice when looking at the version
[13:58:29] <^demon>	 The version list was getting unmanageable a couple of releases ago, so I started adopting the policy of combining non-supported releases into 1.nn.x
[13:58:34] 	 +1 +1 != +2  !!!!!!!!
[13:58:39] <^demon>	 Krinkle: But remember, 2 +1s don't equal +2 :D
[13:58:46] 	 I know!!!
[13:58:53] 	 but enough is un egg
[13:59:01] 	 right hashar ?
[13:59:02] <^demon>	 But I think two BZ admins counts as a +2 ;-)
[13:59:11] 	 It is more like:  +2 > +1 * n,   n >= 0
[13:59:52] 	 "un oeuf" is enough (likes eggs)
[14:00:23] 	 hashar: O + O = O_O
[14:00:32] 	 :—]]]]]
[14:01:14] 	 so to get to a branch in git you have to clone the master and then checkout branch?
[14:01:15] 	 houston, we have a problem. There is an open bug in 1.3.x
[14:01:16] <^demon>	 I wish there was a +∞ in gerrit :)
[14:01:33] 	 freakolowsky: Yes
[14:01:35] <^demon>	 freakolowsky: If the branch is already on the remote, you can `git clone -b branchname `
[14:01:49] 	 freakolowsky: contrary to svn, in git a branch is actually a branch, not a copy of the directory 
[14:01:54] 	 hmm ... ql 10x
[14:02:32] 	 so it needs the entire repo for the branch to be complete
[14:02:34] 	 i thought since i have mercurial on some project i wouldnt be this lost in gif .... i thought WROOOOONG
[14:02:57] 	 but also means that any additional branches are cheap :)
[14:03:03] 	 The bugspam!
[14:03:16] 	 branches are just a pointer :-D
[14:03:27] 	 29 emails...
[14:04:00] <^demon>	 bawolff: I've already troutslapped Krinkle for it :)
[14:04:04] <^demon>	 Krinkle: Did you turn e-mail back on?
[14:04:14] 	 ^demon: Yes, a second ago
[14:04:18] <^demon>	 Okie dokie
[14:04:18] * bawolff  beat you, I got 42 :P
[14:04:40] 	 I got 15,000; but not to me but to wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org
[14:04:49] 	 42 * +1 < +2
[14:04:50] 	 which I'm subscribed to
[14:04:52] 	 shut
[14:04:55] 	 shit
[14:04:59] 	 rofl
[14:05:22] 	 I used to be subscribed to that, but i just couldn't keep up
[14:05:29] 	 I disabled all mail prefs on bugzilla for my own account
[14:05:39] 	 ^demon: so for REL1_17 i just do "clone -b REL1_17"?
[14:05:43] <^demon>	 Yep.
[14:05:54] 	 bawolff: I don't read it all but I do it in order to be able to use gmail as search for bugzilla
[14:05:56] 	 which is awesome
[14:06:08] 	 and then delete a lot of other stuff
[14:06:10] 	 That is an awesome feature
[14:06:15] <^demon>	 I unsubscribed from wikibugs-l because 90% of it is for extensions I couldn't care whether they've been broken for 20 minutes or the last 8 years.
[14:06:44] 	 and I have filters like labels:wikibugs is:unread +(Timo|Krinkle|krinklemail|resourceLoader) 
[14:06:59] 	 and some others like that
[14:08:32] 	 and one filter before that to move them away from Inbox and label with "wikibugs" 
[14:10:11] 	 i dont subscribe either
[14:11:46] 	  tag is an ultra-modern HTML 5-esque solution.
[14:11:58] 	 I love easter eggs :D
[14:12:40] 	 me to ... unles it's easter
[14:18:41] 	 freakolowsky: yeah, I don't like actual easter eggs either. they taste like 'shit' someone once told me when I was little
[14:18:54] 	 (that chicken we saw on the farm pooped it out!)
[14:19:27] 	 seriously though, I like eggs, but why put them in a chocolate bunny or paint them?
[14:19:28] <^demon>	 Now I want eggs, wonder if we've got any in the refrigerator.
[14:20:05] 	 I know the answer to the first part of that question: because the ones in a chocolate bunny are chocolate!
[14:20:31] 	 surely there's more educational, healthier, fun and cheaper less commercial way to glorify eggs and bunnys (whoever made that connection must've been stoned, bunnies don't lay eggs)
[14:20:52] 	 xD
[14:20:52] 	 chocolate is healthy
[14:21:15] 	 well i like easter eggs ... it's just i get so many of them, most of the things i eat around easter contain those eggs ... and eating the same crap for a week is what i have problem with
[14:21:37] 	 hi, can someone help me to find an extensions? i want to make a widget like "on this day" section in en.wikipedia.org
[14:21:56] 	 !error reporting
[14:21:56] 	 For information on debugging (including viewing errors), see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:How_to_debug
[14:22:04] <^demon>	 apergos: Personally, I like the Reese's eggs they put out around Easter. They're like Reese's Cups but with more peanut butter goodness :)
[14:22:09] 	 gd_aryadi: It would be cool if that was an extension  but unfortunately it's a little more complicated than th at
[14:22:23] 	 om nom nom nom!
[14:22:23] 	 gd_aryadi: it is a gazzoo of 100s of templates created by the en.wikipedia.org community
[14:22:55] 	 gd_aryadi: importing the right templates and installing Extension:ParserFunctions should get you on the right track
[14:23:13] 	 (ParserFunctions itself does nothing with the main page, but those templates use ParserFunctions code in the templates)
[14:23:24] 	 Krinkle: so can you give me a clue? should i install some calendar extensions? or just try to copy the templates?
[14:23:51] 	 gd_aryadi: that depends. you're welcome to try one of the many extensions. if they fit your needs, roll with it
[14:23:53] 	 Krinkle: yes I already installed parser functions.
[14:24:27] 	 gd_aryadi: also, if you don't need to schedule ahead of time you could also just design a simple template "my widget" and include that on Main Page and edit that every few days
[14:25:00] 	 or, like en.wikipedia, have a template for each day and use a central template with ParserFunctions that gets the current date and embeds that subpage (if it exists)
[14:26:08] 	 Krinkle:wow it really complicated. maybe i will try to copy the template first. thanks anyway.
[14:26:18] 	 gd_aryadi: you're welcome
[14:26:55] 	 it's amazing how it ever got this far on en.wiki's main page. you'd think it would've been redone as an extension by now 
[14:27:09] 	 but then again, we still don't have interlanguage storage and wikidata storage either.
[14:27:29] 	 we do have evil transclusion
[14:28:12] <^demon>	 s/evil/magic/ :)
[14:28:44] 	 god bless ternary operators in list comprehensions
[14:28:48] 	 they just made my day
[14:29:00] 	 yay python
[14:29:04] 	 (sorry for the totally off topic remark)
[14:30:13] 	 Denna tobaksvara kan skada din hälsa och är beroendeframkallande ... #justsaying
[14:33:23] 	 hmm swedish
[14:34:49] 	 aha
[14:53:23] 	 varnent: Hey, I still didn't get space in git for my extension
[14:54:41] 	 New patchset: Demon; "Adding testfile" [test/mediawiki/extensions/examples] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4786
[14:57:37] 	 nischayn22: the git folks have been swamped - so I'm not 100% surprised - it's still on the list - correct?
[14:58:39] 	 varnent: yes, its there.
[15:00:30] 	 ^demon: can you unmute wikibugs 
[15:00:38] <^demon>	 Oh whoops, forgot
[15:00:39] 	 I don't have opsies here
[15:01:20] 	 New patchset: Demon; "Adding testfile" [test/mediawiki/extensions/examples] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4786
[15:05:33] 	 03(NEW) WikiLove on srwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35913 normal; Wikimedia: Extension setup; (mailmilan)
[15:06:26] 	 03(mod) Global deleted image review for Commons admins - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/14801  +comment (10Krinkle)
[15:06:29] 	 03(mod) Global deleted image review for Commons admins - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/14801  +comment (10Krinkle)
[15:11:26] <^demon>	 nischayn22: I created mediawiki/extensions/AllTimeZones.git for you. You should be able to add it as a remote to your existing repo and then push to gerrit.
[15:11:37] 	 congrats on the new repo, nischayn22 
[15:11:52] 	 ^demon: sumanah thanks
[15:12:00] 	 nischayn22: a new Git repository is like a puppy - you will take care of it or give it to a good home, right? :D
[15:12:35] 	 sumanah: hehe, yes 
[15:12:50] 	 03(mod) Implement a way to set user group permissions per namespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29780  +comment (10Krinkle)
[15:13:16] 	 Reedy: hexmode: any word from the Krinkle/Roan/Trevor triumvirate re that IE/RTL bug?
[15:13:19] 	 New patchset: Alex Monk; "Add missing uploads link to deleted contributions." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4751
[15:13:48] <^demon>	 MaxSem: PageImages is a new extension right? There's no history we're importing here?
[15:13:58] 	 Krenair: I am jealous of you because "alexmonk" is 8 characters long and thus suitable for old UNIX passwords, or DOS filenames.  I have never had that luxury
[15:14:14] 	 :D
[15:14:31] 	 My full first name is Alexander
[15:14:34] 	 my friend Mel Chua could even get, like, a dash in the middle and still fit
[15:14:35] 	 sumanah: is it possible to make Gerrit notify me of changes in my extensions?
[15:14:35] 	 I just don't use it
[15:14:37] 	 ok, trie
[15:14:39] 	 true*
[15:14:49] 	 vvv: I think there is, with the Watch or Follow functionality?
[15:14:57] 	 vvv: hashar and Chad are the experts on this.....
[15:15:03] <^demon>	 Yes, use the watch functionality, it's in your settings.
[15:15:07] 	 vvv: there's also a help file linked from the top of Gerrit's UI
[15:15:11] 	 vvv: it is surprisingly helpful
[15:15:12] * hashar  ducks cowardly
[15:15:21] 	 hi there Jarry1250 
[15:15:53] 	 sumanah: where should I look for new feature requests? I would like to make some extension that is required by the community
[15:16:00] 	 New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Failed " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: -1 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4751
[15:16:04] 	 Jarry1250: was hoping I could get you to take a look at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_1.20 and see if there's anything buried in the listy listiness that ought to be foregrounded
[15:16:14] 	 nischayn22: you are past the Annoying Little Bugs stage
[15:16:21] 	 nischayn22: which means- have you checked out Annoying Large Bugs?
[15:16:32] 	 nischayn22: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Annoying_large_bugs
[15:16:38] <^demon>	 nischayn22: There's also "Extension requests" in Bugzilla.
[15:16:46] 	 ^demon: a good point
[15:16:52] * Jarry1250  adds "foregrounded" to his list of buzzwords.
[15:16:58] 	 Jarry1250: or Surfaced!
[15:17:01] 	 Jarry1250: or called out
[15:17:08] 	 Jarry1250: or drilled down into
[15:17:12] 	 Jarry1250: or circled back to
[15:17:25] 	 ^demon: cool, thanks
[15:17:48] 	 sumanah: the words "helpful" and "gerrit" do not do well together
[15:17:53] 	 ^demon: yes I have looked there, and got interested in making an extension RequestArticle
[15:17:54] * sumanah  laughs aloud
[15:18:04] <^demon>	 Can we add a "No project manager buzzwords" rule to the channel? :p
[15:18:36] 	 ^demon: *sniff* I will miss you all.
[15:18:52] * sumanah  exits, trailing a stream of buzzwords behind her like glory
[15:19:14] 	 (not really)
[15:19:16] 	 ^demon: I have commented in bugzilla, any other place where I can discuss about it?
[15:19:45] 	 nischayn22: you could talk with a few people at Village Pumps or in the IRC channels of specific Wikimedia projects
[15:19:52] <^demon>	 Depends on who's asking for it? If it's a particular wiki (like commons, frwiki, etc), it might be worth talking with them on their wiki.
[15:20:13] * chrismcmahon  leverages the synergy
[15:20:26] 	 nischayn22: also, would you be interested in helping with something for non-WMF wikis?
[15:20:36] 	 nischayn22: because I have 2 possible projects that need some help
[15:20:39] 	 nischayn22: do you know any Python?
[15:20:52] 	 sumanah: I talked to one person and he said there might be other features which are more needed
[15:21:00] 	 sumanah: I know little Python
[15:21:06] <^demon>	 chrismcmahon: There will be no synergy here!
[15:21:11] 	 nischayn22: it's probably enough to get started with
[15:21:32] 	 03(mod) Upgrade Wikimedia OTRS installation to the latest version - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22622  +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[15:21:39] 	 sumanah: yes, and I will learn more Python too *excited*
[15:21:47] 	 nischayn22: :D  So you've heard of pywikipedia?
[15:21:58] 	 nischayn22: basically, take a look at https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Secretaribot
[15:22:15] 	 looking
[15:25:24] 	 nischayn22: you might be interested in submitting a fix or two, checking that the Secretaribot code still works with MediaWiki 1.19 and beyond (they haven't updated the code in 7 months) and working with the pywikipediabot community as necessary
[15:26:03] 	 is jenkins-bot broken at the moment?
[15:26:13] 	 nischayn22: I figured I'd mention this to you since Python is fun to work with :D  also I know Danny (the original code author) and I'm sure he would welcome a bit of help :) and if you can make these scripts more generally useful, other MediaWiki administrators might enjoy using them
[15:26:23] 	 nischayn22: since spam and vandalism are problems for many administrators
[15:26:54] 	 Ugh, spam and vandalism.
[15:26:55] 	 sumanah: From a Western user perspective, the only things they'll notice of that lot are diff colours, redlink-alt preference removal (why no stats? we got them for a different pref) and the copy-paste un-selection. Bot framework operators will like action=tokens.
[15:27:10] 	 sumanah: the documentation on that page isn't good enough, I will have to Google
[15:27:12] 	 nischayn22: along the way you might need to nudge Noisebridge to upgrade their wiki to a more modern version :D (which I have tried to do)
[15:27:29] 	 A wiki I admin fixed almost all spam just by installing a few antispam plugins :D
[15:27:41] 	 nischayn22: the Secretaribot work is not very well documented.  
[15:27:47] 	 We haven't had any spambot registrations since
[15:27:56] 	 03(NEW) Wikimedia projects do not pass W3's validation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35914 normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (mediawiki)
[15:28:20] 	 Jarry1250: if you hav ea few moments to improve the page to specifically note/notice those items, I'd appreciate it
[15:28:40] 	 sumanah: Of course. Revision is tedious.
[15:28:59] 	 Jarry1250: you mean you're revising for exams?
[15:29:20] 	 sumanah: Yup. But then, I spend you spend half your life doing that at Oxford.
[15:29:28] 	 *you spend, even.
[15:29:39] 	 Krenair: I think jenkins-bot might be broken, yeah
[15:29:42] 	 hashar: ^
[15:29:49] 	 Thought so
[15:30:01] 	 Krenair: in that it's been quiet for too long!
[15:30:10] 	 It failed my change so I looked through the console output and couldn't work out wtf had gone wrong
[15:30:45] 	 nischayn22: a few other possible projects:
[15:30:57] 	 nischayn22: a Picture of the Year extension: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.science.linguistics.wikipedia.technical/58589
[15:32:07] 	 (obligatory joke for Krenair) maybe you didn't tip Jenkins last Boxing Day
[15:32:36] 	 :D
[15:32:59] 	 03(mod) errors about *.min.js when loading a MobileFrontend on Firefox - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35910  +comment (10Jon)
[15:33:11] 	 Change abandoned: Demon; "Junk." [test/mediawiki/extensions/examples] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4786
[15:33:46] 	 sumanah: I also read somewhere a request to vote for images in Commons
[15:34:08] 	 nischayn22: Hmmm! please do add a link to that into https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Annoying_large_bugs
[15:34:34] 	 only if I can remember where I read it :P
[15:34:55] 	 sumanah: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35626#c9 <-- how can I reach that "labs" project? do I need labs shell access?
[15:35:17] 	 saper: if you have access to Git and Gerrit, then you also have a Labs account
[15:35:27] 	 what was changed to make this page strange? http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:AntiSpoof
[15:35:31] 	 but you might not have the access WITHIN labs that you need, saper 
[15:35:33] 	 see those empty boxes
[15:35:37] 	 maybe due to 1.20?
[15:35:48] 	 What empty boxes?
[15:35:55] 	 sumanah: yeah that's probably the situation I am in
[15:36:06] 	 liangent: I do not see the empty boxes.
[15:36:07] 	 Reedy: in installation steps
[15:36:12] 	 liangent: what browser are you using?
[15:36:16] 	 ahhhhhh
[15:36:18] 	 ok, I see that
[15:36:19] <^demon>	 Ahh, it's chrome.
[15:36:24] <^demon>	 It's the geshi bug
[15:36:26] 	 ^
[15:36:33] <^demon>	 I see the bug finally :D
[15:36:37] 	 lol
[15:36:43] 	 it's fine logged out
[15:36:56] 	 liangent: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35875
[15:36:56] 	 no boxes, but there is the text
[15:37:17] 	 liangent: you can add yourself to cc on that
[15:37:44] 	 saper: I think you would either email labs-l or go into #wikimedia-labs to mention the project you want access to and they will give it to you with a minimum of fuss
[15:38:17] 	 sumanah: ok enqueued, thanks
[15:38:22] 	 Reedy: I figured it out
[15:38:33] 	 saper: :)
[15:38:35] 	 Reedy: (why wgResourceBasePath on wmf uses resources level up)
[15:38:40] 	 go on?
[15:38:47] 	 hi sumanah !
[15:39:03] 	 hi potter 
[15:39:39] 	 wgResourceBasePath is NOT intended for what we're using it for
[15:39:45] 	 Reedy: Hence the bug is called "Implement $wgResourcesPath and $wgResourcesDirectory"
[15:40:24] 	 Reedy: wgResourceBasePath is to configure an alternate wgScriptPath root for modules
[15:40:27] 	 Reedy: e.g. to use a cdn
[15:40:56] 	 Reedy: including subtrees like extensions or skins, if it weren't for the fact that we're overriding those individually as well
[15:41:41] 	 so ResourceLoader uses wgResourceBasePath instead of wgScriptPath, in which case it makes perfect sense that we have resources as a sub dir
[15:41:58] 	 so I was looking at that page because I found this user: https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:%E7%94%A8%E6%88%B7%E8%B4%A1%E7%8C%AE/%CE%92%CE%9F%CE%A5
[15:42:23] 	 obviously he can be spoofing User:BOY
[15:42:49] 	 03(mod) welcome users without relying on additions to talk page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27829  +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara)
[15:43:40] 	 then how can I ask antispoof to catch it?
[15:44:12] 	 03(mod) WikiLove on srwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35913   +shell (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[15:45:37] 	 03(mod) WikiLove on srwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35913  +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[15:46:47] 	 New review: Tpt; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/ProofreadPage] (master) C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4773
[15:47:56] 	 03(mod) Link to /android from download.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35903  -shell +ops (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[15:50:37] 	 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/describekeywords.cgi : why are they listed in two tables?
[15:52:29] 	 !smazeland
[15:52:29] 	 I don't know anything about "smazeland".
[15:52:39] 	 !seen smazeland
[15:52:53] 	 03(FIXED) Add a category to $wgArticleFeedbackBlacklistCategories for Portuguese Wikipedia to remove AFT from disambiguation pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35852  +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[15:54:07] 	 03(mod) Extended characters show up as "?" in Gerrit user names - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35626  +comment (10Marcin Cieślak)
[15:56:51] 	 i was using the extention wikifeeds to be able to rss article feeds and not feeds caused by diff/edits. that extention does not work properly with mw 1.18 for me. If i could turn off the feeds for edited pages and leave them working only for created pages it wouild solve the problem for me. any suggestions ? what should i be looking for ?
[15:57:17] 	 hello
[15:57:44] 	 can i set something like 'group of pages' on media wiki? like Services:List, Services:Usage_details and such?
[15:58:01] 	 i want those pages to be listed when Services page is displayed.
[15:59:00] 	 03(NEW) equivset: 3A5 Υ => 59 Y - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35915 normal; MediaWiki extensions: AntiSpoof; (liangent)
[15:59:00] 	 03(FIXED) Enable e-mail notifications for watchlist (EnotifWatchlist) on tawiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35878  +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[16:00:17] 	 meisth0th: & HeXiLeD - if you don't get an answer here then try mediawiki-l
[16:00:21] 	 !lists | meisth0th 
[16:00:21] 	 meisth0th: mediawiki-l and wikitech-l are the primary mailing lists for MediaWiki-related issues. See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mailing_lists for details.
[16:00:40] 	 03(FIXED) Set a non-empty default value for wmgArticleFeedbackBlacklistCategories on WMF wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35853  +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[16:00:51] 	 meisth0th: if {{Special:PrefixIndex/Service:}} or something is enough, use it
[16:01:02] 	 otherwise try SMW
[16:02:51] 	 liangent, i was checking namespaces, what is smw?
[16:03:00] 	 semantic mediawiki
[16:03:05] 	 !smw
[16:03:05] 	 SemanticMediaWiki is an awesome extension that lets you connect wiki pages with semantic relations. See  and . Mailing lists are available at 
[16:05:12] 	 or if you don't need very customizable styling, use DynamicPageList if it's ok
[16:06:15] 	 03(FIXED) Set logo for sl.wikiversity - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35659  +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[16:09:43] 	 New patchset: Adamw; "document how the parser handles list items coming from a template, especially the surprising start-of-line behavior.  This test will be used to implement matching behavior in Parsoid." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4789
[16:09:44] 	 Lydia_WMDE: sorry, my phone dropped you
[16:09:57] 	 np
[16:10:29] 	 seems I cannot initiate & chair multiperson calls.
[16:11:04] 	 New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4789
[16:13:03] 	 03(mod) Variable names showing on the oversight page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35849  +comment (10Philippe Beaudette)
[16:13:12] 	 liangent, what does {{Special:PrefixIndex/Service:}} i couldn't understand. should i add it to every wiki page that should go under same group?
[16:13:42] 	 Jarry1250: tyvm for your mw 1.20 feature layout clean up :)
[16:13:50] 	 03(FIXED) Wikijunior and cookbook namespaces for the Vietnamese Wikibooks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35823  +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[16:14:40] 	 hexmode: Quite alright. Sumanah mentioned it so I boldly went ahead :)
[16:15:12] 	 03(mod) Localize "Author" namespace name in Chinese - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35714  +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[16:15:21] 	 liangent: it lists pages whose names start with "Service:"
[16:15:45] 	 03(mod) Localize "Author" namespace name in Chinese - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35714  +comment (10Liangent)
[16:18:19] 	 03(NEW) handle upload filesize > maxfilesize gracefully - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35916 normal; MediaWiki extensions: UploadWizard; (cmcmahon)
[16:18:49] 	 03(FIXED) Add block permissions in rollback on Lusophone Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35261  +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[16:19:42] 	 Jarry1250: http://hexm.de/hc its come a long way
[16:20:27] 	 :)
[16:20:42] 	 03(FIXED) Change namespaces configuration - pl.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35905  +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[16:21:21] 	 Jarry1250: hexmode +1 I appreciate it also. 
[16:21:33] 	 liangent, PrefixIndex seems to work ok for me, however, isn't what i exactly want a namespace?
[16:22:41] 	 03(mod) WikiLove on srwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35913  normal->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[16:24:07] 	 03(mod) WikiLove on srwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35913  +comment (10Micki)
[16:24:30] 	 03(mod) Extended characters show up as "?" in Gerrit user names - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35626  +comment (10Chad H.)
[16:25:50] 	 Jarry1250: "the same effect can still be generated via user CSS, however." is there an example of this somewhere?
[16:27:07] 	 Good question.
[16:28:01] 	 03(FIXED) Change of Armenian Wikipedia namespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35818  +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[16:29:28] 	 03(mod) Localize "Author" namespace name in Chinese - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35714  +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[16:30:08] 	 !seen aharoni
[16:30:10] * hexmode  sees "deploy to commons" for monday
[16:30:53] 	 hexmode: I believe http://pastebin.com/Yk5sr9vX is the correct CSS, though I haven't tested it myself.
[16:31:10] * hexmode  goes to test
[16:31:40] 	 14(WFM) Enable subpages in main namespace on bn wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35700  +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[16:33:10] 	 03(FIXED) Add enotif on page changes in watchlist (guwiki and source) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35694  +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[16:35:41] 	 03(NEW) allow transwiki imports on wikimania2012 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35917 normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (bugzilla+org.wikimedia)
[16:36:31] 	 03(FIXED) Renaming Namespace Wikisource:Author in gu.wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35666  +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[16:36:51] 	 Jarry1250: works :)
[16:37:35] 	 Yay :)
[16:38:48] 	 03(mod) Localize "Author" namespace name in Chinese - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35714  +comment (10Liangent)
[16:41:24] 	 03(FIXED) allow transwiki imports on wikimania2012 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35917  normal->15enhancement; +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[16:45:22] 	 03(mod) Proofread Page extension setup in Bengali Wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35629  +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[16:47:04] 	 03(mod) Remove ? mode for missing links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27619  +comment (10Jarry1250)
[16:48:49] 	 useagency: :)
[16:49:57] 	 03(FIXED) Allow bureaucrats to remove sysop rights on fr.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35258  +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[16:50:50] 	 03(NEW) no preview thumbnails upon uploading video via UploadWizard - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35918 normal; Wikimedia Labs: Setup; (cmcmahon)
[16:51:18] 	 03(mod) To enable Special:Import right on http://or.wikipedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31185   +shell (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[16:52:00] 	 03(FIXED) To enable Special:Import right on http://or.wikipedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31185  (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[16:55:55] 	 03(FIXED) Enable Special:Import for administrator in Bengali Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34791  +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[16:58:46] 	 03(mod) namespace required for "PORTAL" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34923  +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[17:00:41] 	 06(LATER) namespace Rubrika in Czech Wikizpravy - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34529  +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[17:03:16] 	 06(LATER) Include Portal: in default search on svwp - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34780  +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[17:07:52] 	 03(mod) Branch MediaWiki docs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/26712  -shell +ops (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[17:07:52] 	 03(mod) Doxygen for Extensions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/25978  -shell +ops (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[17:09:46] 	 03(mod) enable importing of edits from newly released historical English Wikipedia database dumps to the current enwiki database - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34465  -shell  (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[17:11:27] 	 New review: Catrope; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4187
[17:11:29] 	 Change merged: Catrope; [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4187
[17:12:10] 	 ^demon, PageImages is on GitHub
[17:12:14] 	 New review: Catrope; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4190
[17:12:37] <^demon>	 MaxSem: Ah ok, I'll make a note of that for when I create it.
[17:14:56] 	 New patchset: Catrope; "First set of toolbox icons" [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4190
[17:17:21] 	 New review: Catrope; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4190
[17:17:24] 	 Change merged: Catrope; [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4190
[17:17:43] 	 New review: Catrope; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4188
[17:17:45] 	 Change merged: Catrope; [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4188
[17:20:29] 	 03(VERIFIED) Allow bureaucrats to remove sysop rights on fr.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35258  +comment (10Jérémie Roquet)
[17:20:53] 	 03(NEW) Tracking bug for moving MobileFronted into core - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35919 enhancement; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend; (tfinc)
[17:21:21] 	 03(mod) Tracking bug for moving MobileFronted into core - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35919  (10Tomasz Finc)
[17:21:22] 	 03(mod) direction in MobileFrontent is always based on the wiki's content language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35911  (10Tomasz Finc)
[17:22:49] 	 New patchset: Robmoen; "New Method isSelection() in Surface View Used to properly hide/show Context menu and UI elements." [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4790
[17:28:50] 	 New review: Robmoen; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4790
[17:28:50] 	 04(REOPENED) To enable Special:Import right on http://or.wikipedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31185  +comment (10ansuman)
[17:28:52] 	 Change merged: Robmoen; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4790
[17:31:20] 	 New review: preilly; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/ProofreadPage] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4746
[17:31:23] 	 Change merged: preilly; [mediawiki/extensions/ProofreadPage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4746
[17:32:35] 	 does mediawiki use flash in any of its extensions?
[17:32:53] <^demon>	 There might be an extension or 2 that does, but generally no.
[17:33:01] 	 New patchset: L10n-bot; "Localisation updates from http://translatewiki.net." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4791
[17:33:18] 	 New review: preilly; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4550
[17:33:49] 	 ^demon: a copy to clipboard button is sometimes useful in a page, but that needs flash
[17:34:18] 	 https://github.com/mojombo/clippy is a good solution
[17:34:20] 	 New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4791
[17:34:59] 	 03schuellersa *  10/trunk/extensions/SolrStore/ (SolrDoc.php SpecialSolrSearch.php): function adField with strip_tags fixed
[17:34:59] <^demon>	 I doubt we'd put anything like that in core, but I can't see why an extension wouldn't be able to as long as it's under a free license.
[17:35:39] 	 when using https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:WikiEditor how do we enable the bottom buttons bar like mediawiki has currently 
[17:36:14] 	 http://svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/WikiEditor/README  do we have more variables to set other than just 3 ?
[17:36:27] 	 ^demon: its under MIT License, Do you think it will be a good idea to make an extension to add just this tiny feature?
[17:37:36] <^demon>	 I think it'd be better as an extension, yes.
[17:38:40] 	 Cool
[17:38:55] 	 How do I change the address of my mySQL database because now i'm getting an error "DB connection error: php_network_getaddresses: getaddrinfo failed: No such host is known"?
[17:39:46] 	 New review: Demon; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4791
[17:39:48] 	 Change merged: Demon; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4791
[17:42:42] 	 03catrope *  10/branches/wmf/1.19wmf1/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5/ (34 files in 5 dirs): 1.19wmf1: Update to master state (d566854a842a3e6e5eb9e95aa6780a09cadfe212)
[17:43:41] 	 03(mod) Change of Armenian Wikipedia namespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35818  (10vgratian)
[17:44:56] 	 03(mod) Extended characters show up as "?" in Gerrit user names - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35626  +comment (10Marcin Cieślak)
[17:48:35] 	 06(LATER) Place in particular articles the extension FlaggedRevs on the Portuguese Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34941  +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[17:49:36] 	 !wg DBserver | ikesultan
[17:49:36] 	 ikesultan: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgDBserver
[17:49:50] 	 sumanah, am I right in assumption that final project list will be taken from those marked with accpt=true and I don't need to be ranked?
[17:49:59] 	 MaxSem: not quite
[17:50:01] 	 just a moment
[17:50:36] 	 I mean, the others don't need to be ranked
[17:50:40] 	 Reedy, thanks
[17:51:10] 	 MaxSem: I marked those acceptances in order to help guide Google in how many slots we wanted
[17:51:15] 	 there is all this magic in Melange
[17:52:18] 	 MaxSem: so refresh
[17:52:39] 	 hehe
[17:53:16] 	 Sorry for the misleading there
[17:55:48] 	 RoanKattouw: what gui shell are you using on your box?
[17:55:56] 	 Aaron|laptop: "gui shell"?
[17:56:02] 	 You mean xterm-like application?
[17:56:08] 	 hehe, I mean Unity or Gnome or whatever
[17:56:11] 	 Oh
[17:56:13] 	 KDE
[17:56:23] 	 sumanah: around?
[17:56:47] 	 hi Alchimista 
[17:57:03] 	 hi sumanah, can we talk?
[17:57:24] 	 Alchimista: I JUST got a phone call, can I talk to you in 30 min?
[17:57:31] 	 sure
[17:58:53] 	 03(mod) Can't upload file with non-ASCII name (eg cyrillic) on Windows host - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/1780  (10Max Semenik)
[18:03:33] 	 03(WONTFIX) Request that reader feedback have ratings (specificly the averages) available via API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/21995  +comment (10Aaron Schulz)
[18:04:21] 	 03(mod) Tracking bug for moving MobileFronted into core - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35919   +tracking (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[18:04:21] 	 03(mod) Tracking bug (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/2007  (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[18:17:07] 	 03(NEW) Remove groups from own account: parseinline - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35920 normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (niklas.laxstrom)
[18:17:28] 	 03(mod) Install ArticleFeedback on es.wikinews - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34024  +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[18:20:06] 	 03(mod) Install ArticleFeedback on es.wikinews - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34024  +comment (10Fitoschido)
[18:21:13] 	 03(mod) Tracking bug for moving MobileFrontend into core - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35919  summary (10Phillip Patriakeas)
[18:21:26] 	 hi Alchimista 
[18:21:28] 	 hi drecodeam 
[18:21:45] 	 hey sumanah
[18:22:06] 	 03(mod) Portal namespase and ВП (alias to Project) on be: Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31749  +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[18:22:08] 	 drecodeam: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/UploadWizard and https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:UploadWizard are good places to improve things
[18:22:17] 	 drecodeam: but you're looking more for rules and guidelines?
[18:23:10] 	 sumanah: ya i want to improve those pages only, just wanted to know if there is a convention or a process to do so ?
[18:23:50] 	 drecodeam: we are pretty spontaneous about these things, but I would say, here are some guidelines:
[18:24:01] * drecodeam  is noting 
[18:24:01] 	 * if you have a big QUESTION then put it on the talk page
[18:24:36] 	 * please try to keep everything on the page consistent, like, in terms of abstraction levels (headings, bold/emphasis) and in terms of obsoleteness/recency
[18:25:03] 	 (it's confusing if 1/3 of the page talks about MediaWiki 1.17 and the rest is about trunk)
[18:25:59] 	 * figure out who you're talking to -- different kinds of info belong in different places.  A HOWTO is different from an architectural overview, which is different from a FAQ, which is different from a reference to every function & its arguments
[18:26:18] 	 drecodeam: does that make sense?
[18:26:33] 	 (others, feel free to jump in)
[18:26:36] 	 Alchimista: I can talk now
[18:27:06] 	 sumanah: ya. Gives me a lot of points to keep in mind. 
[18:27:12] 	 03(mod) 
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(content)
by Tidy - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35875 (10Mark A. Hershberger) [18:27:25] drecodeam: I hope it's not too much! [18:28:00] drecodeam: you are helping not just yourself, but your future self, and people you will someday teach [18:28:30] sumanah: Ya true that [18:28:40] sumanah: pong, I know you've been trying to get ahold of me [18:28:58] kevin_brown: yes -- what's the status regarding ArchiveLinks? [18:29:15] kevin_brown: looking at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Kevin_Brown/ArchiveLinks/status . [18:29:18] 03(mod) centralauth db has myisam tables in production - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35872 +comment (10Rob Lanphier) [18:29:31] kevin_brown: did you contact all the people you said you would contact? [18:30:48] some of them yes [18:31:13] 03(mod) centralauth db has myisam tables in production - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35872 +comment (10Chad H.) [18:31:15] sumanah: can i make some more reduced invitations on pt.wp? We have several village pumps, one for bot and semi-bot operators, another for programers of .js gadjects and templates, one for announcments... [18:31:29] but people will take a better look if the message is smaller :P [18:32:09] Alchimista: sure, go ahead and slim it down :) [18:32:37] Alchimista: the most important thing is pointing people to the Berlin Hackathon page on MediaWiki.org and telling them to please register by May 1 especially if they are requesting any kind of subsidy [18:33:08] :d i'll point to the mw page. Another thing, where can people ask for info related to financial suport? Some people i've talked where concerned about it [18:33:36] Alchimista: they should give as much information as they can in the registration form. I'm sorry that I don't have more info about it yet :( [18:34:02] Alchimista: you can tell them that I will try to have more info soon and that I will put it on the Berlin hackathon webpage (like, dates by which I will be getting back to people) [18:34:06] sumanah: oki doki, i'll spam now, and talk about another topic in a few minutes [18:34:12] sorry for the vagueness Alchimista [18:34:23] I have not been as communicative as I ought [18:34:29] thank you for translating and for spreading the word [18:34:58] also Alchimista if you think there is interest in hosting a hackathon in one of pt.wikipedia's geographic regions, people should totally create their own [18:35:09] sumanah: we need more devs on portuguese comunity, we have a lack of them :S [18:35:14] 03(NEW) Wrong language in redlink tooltip - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35921 minor; MediaWiki: Internationalization; (enomil) [18:35:59] Alchimista: I confess to terrible ignorance here: do Portugal and Brazil share one Wikipedia & 1 Portugese Wikimedia community, or is it mostly split? [18:36:05] 03(mod) Variable names showing on the oversight page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35849 +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger) [18:36:29] sumanah: one single wikipedia, at least for now XD [18:37:54] 03(mod) Extended characters show up as "?" in Gerrit user names - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35626 +comment (10Marcin Cieślak) [18:38:35] Alchimista: if your local chapter is interested in hosting an event, a one-day hackday event can be cheap and surprisingly productive, and good at getting potential contributors and giving them tools they need to contribute [18:38:45] 03(mod) Add a 'Night Mode' to the Wikipedia Mobile app - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35251 +comment (10Tomasz Finc) [18:38:50] Alchimista: especially if you reach outside your existing community and into nearby technical communities [18:39:28] 03(NEW) formatnum simply converts the text from one locale to another - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35922 normal; MediaWiki: Internationalization; (crangasi2001) [18:39:38] kevin_brown: I'm still waiting for the rest of your update, btw [18:39:40] sumanah: that's the second point, in pt we are planing to organize one, with a special focus on non wikimedia users [18:39:47] Alchimista: that's cool! [18:40:03] 03(mod) Variable names showing on the oversight page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35849 +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger) [18:40:09] and has far as i know, the same in brazil [18:42:31] Alchimista: I do know that people in Brazil are interested in putting on an event in the fall [18:43:03] 03(mod) Wikipedia Android app should have a find in page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34139 +comment (10Tomasz Finc) [18:43:15] 03mark * 10/trunk/debs/wikimedia-nis-client/: No longer used [18:43:25] sumanah: i'm thinking in nov-dec, after WLM [18:43:32] some tips, Alchimista https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Volunteer_coordination_and_outreach/Event_planning [18:44:39] 06(LATER) welcome users without relying on additions to talk page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27829 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [18:45:54] 04(REOPENED) welcome users without relying on additions to talk page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27829 +comment (10Chad H.) [18:47:06] sumanah: well yeah toolserver feed is up have yet to fixed the crontab problem, but I'll set that as being done by tomorrow [18:47:19] * sumanah will believe it when she sees it [18:48:05] I don't blame you [18:48:11] * kevin_brown will make sure sumanah sees it [18:48:41] 03(mod) Variable names showing on the oversight page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35849 +aftv5-1.5; +comment (10Fabrice Florin) [18:49:00] 03(mod) User.php : make $_SESSION parameters wiki-database specific ("per-wiki"). Cookies are already. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27309 +comment (10Daniel Friesen) [18:50:55] 03(mod) Make "bug 12345" clickable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35570 +comment (10Chad H.) [18:51:13] 03(mod) namespace required for "PORTAL" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34923 +comment (10Gitartha Bordoloi) [18:51:25] New review: Catrope; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4708 [18:51:27] Change merged: Catrope; [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4708 [18:53:17] New review: Robmoen; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4754 [18:53:19] Change merged: Robmoen; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4754 [18:58:06] New review: Umherirrender; "I have only change a little part of GenderCache. Not created it new." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4507 [18:59:51] 03catrope * 10/trunk/debs/wikimedia-job-runner/debian/ (changelog wikimedia-job-runner.mw-job-runner.init): [18:59:51] Add graceful restart capability to the job runner init script. Uses HUP to kill [18:59:51] the jobs-loop.sh process but not its children (the script traps TERM but not [18:59:52] HUP), then just starts a new runner. The children will die eventually [19:03:26] 03(mod) MobileFrontend breaks frontend caching in some cases - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35842 +comment (10Arthur Richards) [19:03:45] 03(mod) User.php : make $_SESSION parameters wiki-database specific ("per-wiki"). Cookies are already. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27309 +comment (10Chad H.) [19:05:57] [19:05:58] Ryan_Lane, sorry for bugging you, but any news on the ldap auth breakage ? :) [19:06:06] I haven't had time to work on it [19:06:14] it's unlikely it'll get fixed any time soon [19:06:24] it'll take large core changes [19:06:27] Hi Amgine, can you tell me more about your impersonation? [19:06:37] 03(NEW) Followup to bug 11374 - tweaks to mediawiki.action.history.diff.css - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35923 normal; MediaWiki: History/Diffs; (erwin) [19:06:47] elbow joggling, people connecting. [19:06:59] New patchset: Catrope; "(bug 35685) Add section with entry point URLs to Special:Version" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4797 [19:07:35] 03(FIXED) Add API endpoint URL link somewhere in the pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35685 +comment (10Roan Kattouw) [19:08:13] 03(mod) Red .diffchange text in the green 'added' area may be hard to read for color blinded users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/11374 +comment (10Erwin Dokter) [19:08:17] New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4797 [19:08:31] 03(FIXED) Make "bug 12345" clickable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35570 +comment (10Chad H.) [19:08:41] Amgine: hee [19:08:55] <^demon> https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#change,4796 looks sooooo nice with links now. [19:09:40] Hashar: is there a link for the latest wiktionary mobile build apk that I'm just not finding? and will it work if there is? [19:09:55] ^demon: I just used a bug link and didn't think about it, but THANK YOU THAT'S F-ING AWESOME [19:10:07] Amgine: might work :-D [19:10:17] sumanah: spam done :P is there a calendar with the planed events on late 2012? [19:10:28] Amgine: list is at http://integration.mediawiki.org/WiktionaryMobile/nightly/ [19:10:36] [19:10:37] Amgine: they are build whenever a change is pushed in github [19:10:37] <^demon> RoanKattouw: We can add regexes for those whenever, I found how to do it with gerrit.config [19:10:39] <^demon> :D [19:11:00] Amgine: our mobile application channel is #wikimedia-mobile if you have any interest make sure to ask there [19:11:12] Ryan_Lane, damn, quite unfortunate. do you happen to know, was 1.17 unaffected by this ? [19:11:31] !events | Alchimista [19:11:31] Alchimista: We run face-to-face events for MediaWiki developers and people who want to learn: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_developer_meetings We also have online meetings in IRC to triage bugs: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Bug_management/Triage [19:12:50] so is that all that is planed for now? [19:12:52] Alchimista: that meetings page is the most authoritative page [19:12:53] yeah [19:13:09] Richlv: I think so, yes [19:13:17] ok, so seems that it's event's free for now [19:13:21] it's been broken for a while it seems [19:13:26] Alchimista: which event? [19:13:49] New patchset: Catrope; "Add and update an offset map in DocumentNode" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4798 [19:14:52] sumanah: Hackathons, we'll need some experts, we don't have an estabelished comunity of wikimedia hackers on pt, so well need outsiders [19:14:54] Ryan_Lane, thanks, i guess will have to go with 1.17 for that deployment then... [19:15:06] Richlv: I think it's broken too [19:15:16] oh [19:15:24] unaffected. sorry. no it's likely affected [19:15:51] whichever version rewrote the preferences system broke this [19:15:55] and that was a long time ago [19:16:07] Alchimista: there's Waldir [19:16:15] not many people use LDAP as a backend (where mediawiki writes to it), so this code isn't tested much [19:16:30] Alchimista: and if it's in Portugal then we can try to get a few other Europeans there [19:16:32] * Richlv curses [19:16:57] so when did it last work ? :D [19:17:14] ...and doesn't that warrant some unittest ? ;) [19:17:26] there's no unittests for ldap auth [19:17:38] it would be great if there were for AuthPlugin [19:17:52] but this change likely occured well before unit tests were added for mediawiki core [19:18:35] Richlv: wanna help? :D [19:19:13] Richlv: I'd imagine the last time it worked was like 1.12 or 1.13, which are ancient [19:19:14] sumanah, the best i can help with is reporting whether it works. don't code at all :) [19:19:16] Unit tests? Ryan_Lane has gone mad. [19:19:36] Richlv: we also appreciate bug reports, thanks [19:19:41] Ryan_Lane, i'm slightly passing out [19:19:45] Reedy: well, when the preferences system was rewritten, the call to update external databases was removed for updating preferences [19:19:51] sumanah, heh, so here's one ;) [19:20:12] (in Bugzilla of course is nicer) [19:20:37] sumanah: basicly we have waldir, me and Nuno tavares, and some others wich use translatewiki, but with expertise in building a bot, or creating a gadject/.js the number will not increase much [19:20:38] well, i wasn't sure what's what, so i asked here, and Ryan_Lane confirmed that he's seeing the same issue [19:20:53] Richlv: I misunderstood, thought you were going to report another one [19:20:54] sorry [19:21:12] but daamn. i'm thinking of some workaround. like crontab query that updates passwords. or some other ugliness... [19:21:34] sumanah, heh, not yet. it doesn't really work to replace the previous installation =) [19:21:57] <^demon> saper: Regarding utf8 -- I've not updated the tables on gerrit-dev yet, so the patch won't work. [19:22:45] Richlv: password reset works [19:22:52] Richlv: updating preferences does not [19:23:06] at minimum in 1.19 password reset works [19:23:24] ^demon: feel free to try my config change first once you have the tables [19:23:48] <^demon> If you want I can add you to the project, I doubt I'll get to it today. Maybe tomorrow, but not sure. [19:24:32] ^demon: not sure I can help more? [19:25:02] <^demon> Well if I added you to the project you could make the changes yourself on the test install, but I guess we can wait for me :) [19:25:31] <^demon> But thank you though for looking into this, I let it slip in priority. [19:25:44] someone in this channel has recommended me to use smw for categorizing my pages like Services:List, Services:Usage, now i installed, how am i supposed to categorize my pages? [19:26:39] meisth0th: You may wish to get the advice of people in #Semantic-mediawiki. [19:26:40] ^demon: mysqldump & restore and you should be all set [19:26:48] They have the expertise. [19:27:10] Amgine, isn't such a simple thing possible without help of any plugin? [19:27:26] i just want to create a category and put some pages under that category. [19:27:29] ^demon: I spotted JDBC option when checking in my patch, not sure if they document it anywhere [19:27:30] !categories [19:27:30] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Categories [19:29:34] Amgine, thank god, thank you [19:29:39] it took like 3 hours [19:30:13] hello? [19:30:14] meisth0th: next time, try searching mediawiki.org for keywords [19:30:16] hi vivi_ [19:30:30] hello [19:30:36] You'rew welcome, meisth0th. [19:30:48] i need help on mediawiki with the media files [19:30:50] 14(DUP) Change Gerrit database schema to support utf8 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35455 +comment (10Chad H.) [19:30:52] 03(mod) Extended characters show up as "?" in Gerrit user names - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35626 +comment (10Chad H.) [19:31:40] Ryan_Lane, oh, right, email address was the one [19:31:47] hmm. that might even be easier :D [19:31:51] no hashing and whatnot [19:32:15] vivi_: you will probably want to be a bit more specific than that. What is your problem with media files? [19:32:38] does anyone know how to create folders for media files in mediawiki. instead of having it in a huge general folder that contains all of them [19:32:43] Richlv: yeah [19:33:28] What i mean is that i have files that i want to put in its own separat folder not in the general pile when you first upload them [19:34:21] vivi_: Mediawiki uses a system to create subfolders for media files, which it uses. You can certainly create your own folder inside the images/ folder, but it will not be managed by the software. [19:34:31] What is it you are trying to do, vivi_? [19:35:02] amgine: well are you familiar with dokuwiki?? [19:35:06] No. [19:35:19] Amgine, is there a special page listing all categories? [19:35:45] meisth0th: Yes, domain.tld/wiki/Special:AllPages [19:35:58] You can use that to list all the categories which are created. [19:36:06] well. in dokuwiki there is a mediamanager page where i can name a folder and place the files in the folder. Without still having that particular file in the general folder [19:36:38] Why do you need this, vivi_? [19:36:48] Amgine: I'm new at mediawiki and i really need step by step [19:36:58] (If I know what you are trying to do, I can help you do it.) [19:37:02] vivi_, i don't think mw allows you to "browse" files [19:37:07] Amgine: My boss wants me to do that [19:37:16] so folder/directory concept doesn't really apply [19:37:29] Oh... [19:37:34] :( [19:38:06] vivi_: There are multiple ways to find/browse media files which are stored in Mediawiki, but folder/directory format isn't normally one of them. [19:38:47] Well on mw i tried the concept of creating a category page and placing the files in there. but it just shows up in the general folder still. [19:38:55] For example, you can use categories, and galleries, and create list pages, and use automated scripts which list files... [19:39:11] Oh i see [19:39:23] vivi_: Have you looked at how Commons manages media files? [19:39:36] no. [19:39:48] They have several million, iirc. Take a look at https://commons.wikimedia.org [19:40:10] Amgine: Thanks. I'll look at it [19:40:19] yw. [19:40:26] New patchset: J; "fix ffmpeg2theora commandline options" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4800 [19:45:55] <^demon> saper: Appears to be working. Just used utf8 in a comment. Gonna try committing now [19:49:04] 03(NEW) API error upon final file upload in labs beta commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35924 normal; Wikimedia Labs: WMF Beta project; (cmcmahon) [19:49:47] ^demon: check if DB has utf-8 (even if mysql knows nothing about it) [19:50:42] New patchset: Umherirrender; "(bug 12681) New messages bar should appear above page title, for consistency with other message boxes" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4549 [19:50:51] New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Failed " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: -1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4549 [19:52:34] 03(mod) errors about *.min.js when loading a MobileFrontend on Firefox - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35910 +comment (10Amir E. Aharoni) [19:53:56] New review: Umherirrender; "jenkins failed, because I have not rebase to get not a complicated diff between the patch sets." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4549 [19:55:10] 03(FIXED) API should allow diffs using pageids - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32498 (10Krenair) [19:55:21] 03(NEW) Wikisource related bugs and enhancements (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35925 normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (WikipediaDoug) [19:56:29] sumanah: do you know anything about the 'women who tech' telesummit? [19:56:48] http://www.womenwhotech.com/ [19:56:53] hi awjr - I don't think so, no. There are a lot of various WiT-type events and I don't hear of all of them [19:57:42] sumanah: right on - i got invited to sit on a panel called 'Changing the World with Open Source', which kind of surprised me since i'm not a woman [19:58:04] awjr: it's probably because you're seen as a feminist ally [19:58:09] 03(NEW) Cookie and Cache conflict resulting in wrong langauge being displayed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35926 major; MediaWiki extensions: LanguageSelector; (srik.lak) [19:58:16] <^demon> awjr: "Men who know women who tech" :) [19:58:22] heh [19:58:50] awjr: I know Liz Henry (she is cool) and Jane and Sarah are smart and reasonable people [19:59:44] sumanah: i am certainly honored and see myself as a feminist ally - i told them i'd be interested in doing it if they were looking for a male panelist or specifically were looking for someone with my perspective, but would otherwise feel weird taking the spot when there are no doubt many women who could fill it [19:59:53] awesome [19:59:58] awjr: understandable position! [20:00:42] ^demon: is it possible to merge reviewed/verified change using gerrit interface or do I have to download the change and do it with git? [20:01:08] robla: I published the blog post [20:01:08] <^demon> Merge to a different branch? [20:02:39] ^demon: no, to master [20:02:42] no change [20:03:09] <^demon> What was reviewed/verified if it's not been a change? [20:03:50] I have a change in my test gerrit, it 2 times +1 and so on. Now I'm a project admin - how do I actually merge it into "master"? [20:04:01] plain git push gerrit HEAD:master says "remote: error: refusing to update checked out branch: refs/heads/master [20:04:52] <^demon> If it's been +2'd, you just press "Submit Patch" [20:04:57] <^demon> sumanah: "We plan to have MediaWiki 1.20wmf1 and 1.20wmf2 in April, 1.20wmf3 and 1.20wmf4 in May, etc., until we actually release a new MediaWiki 1.20 installer this fall (probably October)." [20:05:04] <^demon> We're rewriting the installer again? [20:06:37] 03(mod) Wikisource related bugs and enhancements (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35925 +tracking (10Doug) [20:06:37] 03(mod) Langage list has lots of white space while scrolling - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35779 +comment (10Yuvi Panda) [20:06:43] 03(mod) Add a music wikimodule - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/189 (10Doug) [20:06:45] 03(mod) Tracking bug (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/2007 (10Doug) [20:06:47] 03(mod) Search should index template expansion - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/18861 (10Doug) [20:06:48] 03(mod) Do not mark edits as minor by default on new section or new page creation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27860 (10Doug) [20:06:49] 03(mod) import and import log error at latin wikisource (la.ws) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30723 (10Doug) [20:06:49] 03(mod) A general interwiki language link to oldwikisource is required - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32189 (10Doug) [20:06:50] 03(mod) Transwiki import to multilingual (old) wikisource broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32411 (10Doug) [20:06:51] 03(mod) Blank entry in Special:IndexPages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32590 (10Doug) [20:06:51] 03(mod) file path for paged media - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35380 (10Doug) [20:06:52] 03(mod) DjVu thumbs failing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35895 (10Doug) [20:09:36] ^demon: I think "a new installer" here reasonably means a new tarballllll [20:10:03] but if you want me to change it, I will [20:10:04] biab [20:10:05] <^demon> Well, the phrasing confused me. "New installer" != "New tarball" to me. [20:12:57] <^demon> saper: We updated .gitreview to disable the auto-rebasing. Is there a command-line switch for forcing the rebase? [20:13:30] 03(mod) ProofreadPage image width on edit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33613 (10enomil) [20:13:30] 03(mod) Wikisource related bugs and enhancements (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35925 (10enomil) [20:14:27] ^demon: is there an option in .gitreview...? :) did they merge my changes? [20:15:10] I don't see any [20:15:20] could be added though [20:15:48] how do you get the redirect target from a title object? [20:16:23] New review: Hashar; "I really like this idea. Would prefer the two small tables to show on the same line." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4797 [20:17:32] <^demon> zocky: $title->followRedirect() or something along those lines. [20:18:23] ^demon, that's what I thought too, but can't find it [20:18:38] there's just new from redirect, but that parses the #redirect text [20:20:14] ah, article->followRedirect [20:21:09] funny that you can check if it's a redirect in the title object, and get recursive redirects from text, but not simply follow the redirect :) [20:22:17] <^demon> zocky: followRedirect() is for the UI stuff. [20:22:46] <^demon> Actually it was moved, what you want is WikiPage::factory( $title )->getRedirectTarget() [20:22:50] 03(mod) Wikisource related bugs and enhancements (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35925 (10mybugs.mail) [20:23:33] all these changes scare me... a bunch of my extensions are getting broken [20:24:12] ^demon: I feel sorry for you since you needed to set up project permissions in gerrit ... [20:25:03] <^demon> saper: At least the docs are finally near acceptable :p [20:25:12] New patchset: preilly; "Update mobile frontend to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf1) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4803 [20:25:12] 14(DUP) External link syntax which adds rel="license" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/9666 +comment (10Jarry1250) [20:25:13] 03(mod) to support for microdata and rdfa, allow tags so external links can have ref/rel attributes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33886 +comment (10Jarry1250) [20:26:29] ^demon: yeah I had to look at your setup to get the "Submit" button to finally appear [20:26:34] New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Failed " [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf1); V: -1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4803 [20:28:19] 03(mod) ProofreadPage image width on edit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33613 (10Doug) [20:28:20] 14(DUP) Allow anchor () tags in wikitext (currently prevented) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/18460 +comment (10Jarry1250) [20:28:20] 03(mod) to support for microdata and rdfa, allow tags so external links can have ref/rel attributes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33886 +comment (10Jarry1250) [20:29:27] Apparently we can't unassign a bug, we have to reassign the bug? [20:30:02] That seems like a bug [20:30:39] New patchset: L10n-bot; "Localisation updates from http://translatewiki.net." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4804 [20:30:43] New review: gerrit2; "Lint check passed." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4804 [20:30:43] Change merged: gerrit2; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4804 [20:30:46] 03(mod) Integrate git/Gerrit and Bugzilla - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/17322 summary; +comment (10Tim Landscheidt) [20:30:54] ^demon: wow [20:31:07] <^demon> \o/ [20:31:10] <^demon> We did it Nikerabbit. [20:31:41] <^demon> Need to fix that "Lint check passed" [20:31:46] <^demon> But otherwise, yayayay [20:31:56] New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4804 [20:32:16] ^demon: you mean it is redundant or what? [20:33:32] New review: Catrope; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4564 [20:33:35] Change merged: Catrope; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4564 [20:34:10] ^demon: any blockers for doing l10n update for all extensions soon? [20:35:06] New patchset: Hashar; "(34037) phpunit tests timeout too fast" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf1) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4805 [20:35:18] <^demon> Nikerabbit: Other than shutting up irc spam? I don't think so. [20:35:32] ^demon: is that a blocker? [20:35:43] any one on? I have a question about skins [20:35:44] <^demon> I don't know, is it? [20:35:51] ^demon: I'm sure people will complain [20:35:53] oh some one is [20:36:02] <^demon> Nikerabbit: Maybe we could merge https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#change,4806 first too. [20:36:09] <^demon> But Ryan might be tired of me by now ;-) [20:36:16] adrien_: Just ask, and someone knowledgeable will probably reply :) [20:36:20] I'm tired of everyone right now [20:36:28] New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Failed " [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf1); V: -1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4805 [20:36:53] 03(NEW) update.php throws "Call to undefined method DatabasePostgres::realTableName()" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35927 blocker; MediaWiki: Database; (tim) [20:36:53] The question is: I have recently uploaded a skin to my skins directory - and logged in, I see the skin (as I set it) but logged out I see default wiki skin and not the skin I set...why? [20:37:20] ^demon: well, I'm planning to start commits on monday, so you have some time to do what you think is necessary, okay? [20:37:43] 03(mod) WikiEditor toc module: textarea not hidden on ProofreadPage pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/26303 (10Doug) [20:37:43] 03(mod) Wikisource related bugs and enhancements (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35925 (10Doug) [20:37:43] New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Failed " [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf1); V: -1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4803 [20:37:53] <^demon> Nikerabbit: Ok, sounds good. I'm glad we got it working. I'm so sorry it's taken this long to fix. [20:37:56] or is that a naturla thing? do skins only apply to logged in users? [20:37:59] natural [20:38:24] ^demon: done [20:38:36] <^demon> Oh, thanks :) [20:38:42] is that what's broken right now? [20:38:49] Could someone explain the use of a (wmf/1.20wmf1) branch on Gerrit for me (as opposed to submitting to master and then pull(?)ing the revisions you want in (wmf/1.20wmf1) - presumably the deployment branch)? [20:39:03] ^demon: ? [20:39:34] New review: Catrope; "Jenkins is broken, overriding" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf1); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4803 [20:39:35] ^demon: now that it is fixed, I'm not going to complain how long it took, but to celebrate that it is working again [20:39:36] Change merged: Catrope; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf1) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4803 [20:39:57] <^demon> Ryan_Lane: That's the only thing outstanding. It works, just needed to adjust the commit summary. [20:40:00] Jarry1250: Merges / cherry-picks are also commits that can be submitted for review :) [20:40:24] Jarry1250: So if you want something that's in master to also be in 1.20wmf1, YOU can do the cherry-pick and deal with the conflicts and crap, and then submit that backport for review [20:40:34] New patchset: Trevor Parscal; "Improved the appearance of the warning at the top of the editor" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4807 [20:41:11] RoanKattouw: Ah, gotcha. Presumably, though, the intent is to keep wmf sync'ed with master, no? [20:41:19] Why does my skin not display for users not logged in? or is there a setting for that? [20:41:22] Salicious: You need to change the default skin Salicious [20:41:45] Jarry1250 I have in my admin pannel section [20:41:58] do I have to in a php file? [20:42:02] Ah, no, you need to change it in your LocalSettings.php [20:42:08] ahhh thank you [20:42:13] Jarry1250: Yes, it should be a not-too-old version of master, except for emergency hacks and such [20:43:03] 03(mod) Text edit box encoding problem with PDF - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34540 (10Doug) [20:43:03] 03(mod) Wikisource related bugs and enhancements (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35925 (10Doug) [20:43:13] Is there actually going to be serious review then of what gets cherrypicked? Or is it just going to be autoapproved? (Sorry, lots of questions) [20:43:33] Well OK first off submitting things to 1.20wmf1 should be rare [20:43:49] If arbitrary things are submitted we are likely to just deny them unless you have a good reason why it MUST be deployed RIGHT NOW [20:44:11] So this is not like a widely advertised/encouraged workflow [20:44:19] Ah, good good. [20:45:34] Because if I have to read one more wikitech-l thread about favouritism I think I may explode :P Which reminds me, is that branch automagically deployed live, or are there then deployments from that to the WMF cluster? [20:45:44] *manual deployments [20:45:49] It's manual [20:46:19] Automagic deployments were discussed very briefly and then ruled out as being too scary [20:46:43] hi [20:46:56] does mediawiki support any sort of a workflow? [20:47:17] But the manual deployments, they aren't going to be another round of individual merges, they're always going to be "deploy from that branch, whatever's in it at this moment in time"? [20:47:23] Jarry1250: Yes [20:48:01] So the idea with making 1.20wmf1 a reviewed branch in Gerrit is that other people can theoretically do the merging part for us [20:48:11] I don't get it [20:48:18] I can stay logged into my development wiki for days [20:48:34] but in production it logs me out within like 30 mins or so [20:48:46] 1.20wmf1 would /still/ be a pile of merges and cherry-picks from master (ideally it wouldn't be), that doesn't change though [20:49:50] 03(mod) Provide more search options in indexes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28102 (10Doug) [20:50:13] this host value for cookies seems odd: .labsconsole.wikimedia.org [20:50:37] some cookies have .labsconsole.wikimedia.org set and other have labsconsole.wikimedia.org set. [20:51:50] 03preilly * 10/branches/wmf/1.19wmf1/extensions/MobileFrontend/ (39 files in 8 dirs): 1.19wmf: MFG Change-Id: I70736224edd3dde12dd37c46028b1cb6059603d2 [20:52:02] New patchset: IAlex; "Use local context to get messages" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4808 [20:52:09] RoanKattouw: is that normal? [20:52:10] 03(FIXED) Commits from the l10n-bot should be merged immediately - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35537 +comment (10Chad H.) [20:52:47] RoanKattouw: I think I've got it now. The cherrypicking is basically intended for changes that need to bypass the test->otherwikis->en.wp->other Wikipedias testing process, despite the fact that that is going to be happening twice a month? [20:52:51] Ryan_Lane: I don't think so. Check $wgCookie* settings for the wikis running on that domain + subdomains [20:52:59] 03(mod) MobileFrontend breaks frontend caching in some cases - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35842 (10Srikanth Logic) [20:53:03] there are no subdomains [20:53:08] Oh, sorry [20:53:11] wgCookie* isn't set [20:53:15] Then check $wgCookie* settings on that wiki [20:53:19] New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4808 [20:53:22] Those things are set to *something* [20:53:29] ah. it is [20:53:33] Jarry1250: Well -- yes and no [20:53:34] $wgCookieDomain = "labsconsole.wikimedia.org"; [20:53:40] $wgCookieSecure = true; [20:54:14] Jarry1250: So 1.20wmfN is the branch we deploy stuff from, with some wikis being on 1.20wmf1(N-1) and others on 1.20wmf1N as per the schedule [20:54:19] so, why is . being added at the beginning for some cookies? [20:54:27] 03(mod) Provide more search options in indexes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28102 (10Doug) [20:54:27] 03(mod) Wikisource related bugs and enhancements (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35925 (10Doug) [20:55:03] Jarry1250: 1.20wmf1N is branched off of master at some point, but it may need to receive emergency fixes later. That's what the cherry-picks are for [20:55:29] RoanKattouw: Yup, gotcha :) thanks! [20:55:29] Jarry1250: Cherry-picked fixes into 1.20wmf1N will go live to whichever wikis happen to run on 1.20wmf1N at the time, which might be just test2&mw.org, or only small wikis, or almost all, or whatever [20:55:50] Of course if something is Really Really Important we'd cherry-pick it into both N and N-1 at the same time, and all wikis would get it that way [20:56:06] 03(mod) Block form shows options reserved for IPs when blocking a user and viceversa - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35893 +comment (10Marco Aurelio) [20:56:30] 03(mod) Wikieditor toolbar has only a half of screen width - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32372 (10Doug) [20:56:30] 03(mod) Wikisource related bugs and enhancements (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35925 (10Doug) [20:57:56] As long as the deployments keep coming, everyone'll be happy :) [20:58:31] 03(mod) Not possible to transclude to single paragraph over multiple instances of - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35757 (10Doug) [20:58:31] 03(mod) Wikisource related bugs and enhancements (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35925 (10Doug) [20:58:59] RoanKattouw: any idea on the cookie thing? [20:59:17] i am logged in as (bureaucrat, administrator) [20:59:45] 03preilly * 10/branches/wmf/1.19wmf1/extensions/ZeroRatedMobileAccess/ (3 files): 1.19wmf: MFG Change-Id: I0399288753811f0c77574df3e58232a8e53d03fa [20:59:51] and a user is asking for permission to edit the sidebar [20:59:56] Ryan_Lane: Nope [20:59:57] i cant find a list of right [21:00:00] rights [21:00:04] I don't know what would be setting those dot cookies [21:00:06] 03(mod) Block form shows options reserved for IPs when blocking a user and viceversa - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35893 +comment (10Félix M. (elfix)) [21:00:44] could the prefix somehow be getting set in some stupid way? [21:00:51] why does mediawiki have to hate me so much? [21:01:50] <^demon> raks: [[Special:ListGroupRights]] [21:02:06] <^demon> To edit the sidebar on a default install, you'll need to grant administrator rights. [21:02:14] really? [21:02:22] robla: I think kubuntu actually works, nothing has blown up today [21:02:42] <^demon> raks: Yes. [21:02:45] \o/ [21:02:52] * AaronSchulz gave up on gnome and his nvidia gpu [21:03:08] how do i give a user admin privileges? [21:04:10] <^demon> [[Special:UserRights]] [21:04:54] hey faggots [21:05:04] rollback removes meta settings [21:05:10] that is all [21:05:18] New patchset: Robmoen; "Elminiated isSelection method Determine actual selection from model by checking length" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4809 [21:05:32] fix your shitty software [21:05:54] also channel moved -> irc.gnaa.eu #gnaa [21:06:01] goodbye [21:09:30] 03(mod) Cite fails to properly respect CITE_DEFAULT_GROUP - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35675 +comment (10Platonides) [21:10:41] Hi everyone, I was hoping someone might be able to provide some insight on something I'm trying to do. I'm getting a bit lost in all the documentation. [21:11:04] I basically just want to have a single page have more complicated javascript/CSS [21:11:54] does mediawiki support workflow? [21:12:03] so a user creates some content [21:12:10] then someone else reviews it [21:12:20] another then approves it [21:12:21] ? [21:12:52] You can do that with flagged revs [21:15:06] hm. I think my cookie issue was a php issue [21:15:30] I changed my php.ini to use what production is using, now all hosts are set the same way in my cookies [21:15:38] maybe this will fix the stupid session crap too [21:16:23] Reedy: flagged revs? [21:16:32] raks: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:FlaggedRevs [21:16:35] !e FlaggedRevs [21:16:35] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:FlaggedRevs [21:16:38] New review: Aaron Schulz; "The topic always makes me think of something political :)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4808 [21:16:40] Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4808 [21:16:42] klox: can you speak more about what you want? [21:18:25] yeah, i would like to have an image cut up and depending on some parameters set in that wiki page, swap out different sections of the image [21:18:44] the page will be locked to admins, and it's just a single page that needs this [21:19:04] klox: Your best bet is to have global JavaScript that checks the page title [21:19:54] ok, thanks [21:20:50] New patchset: MaxSem; "Disabled page translation links on mobile site until Translate supports mobile:)" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4811 [21:21:08] New patchset: Siebrand; "Strict comparison." [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4812 [21:21:22] New review: Siebrand; "Replied to comment and submitted a new patch at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4812." [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4723 [21:22:02] do you mind linking some of the relevant documentation for this? [21:22:31] i've been all over the javascript and extensions pages and just seem to be getting lost [21:22:49] klox: Well, do you know how to have site JavaScript? [21:23:05] i'm not sure what you mean site [21:23:12] like do I know how to use javascript? [21:23:28] klox: I think you should start with https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:MediaWiki_architecture [21:23:42] klox: that will give you an overview of the different ways to customize your MediaWiki installation [21:24:22] klox: I mean, how to change the global JavaScript that's run on every page [21:24:24] i was afraid of that ;) haha but yeah thanks thats probably the right place to start [21:26:05] no, where is that file at? [21:26:11] i recall seeing it at some point in the documentation [21:26:57] nevermind, i'm guessing its resources/mediawiki/mediawiki.js [21:28:05] sumanah: here ? [21:28:30] 03(FIXED) namespace required for "PORTAL" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34923 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [21:29:11] 03(FIXED) Create submodules for WMF deployment branch - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35140 +comment (10Chad H.) [21:29:13] I did find this seemingly relevant extension: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:AddScriptCss [21:29:15] 03(mod) Make a group blacklist for ssh key changes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34651 +comment (10Ryan Lane) [21:30:10] Hi, esby [21:31:24] heya [21:31:33] i got one question about berlin hackathon [21:31:49] Ask away [21:32:20] is there a way to know how much the hostel fee will cost, if helped and if not helped ? [21:32:27] esby: I'm sorry, I do not know [21:32:29] (or the place to sleep rent) [21:32:55] esby: Nicole Ebber at Wikimedia Germany is in charge of finding the hostel and she will be adding that information to the Berlin hackathon wiki page ASAP [21:33:09] k [21:33:10] 03(NEW) Hidden accounts still listed in Special:ListUsers and Special:Log/globalauth - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35928 blocker; MediaWiki: Logging; (hurricanefan25.wikipedia) [21:33:16] esby: but right now we're finalizing the venue so we need to wait for that, so we can get a hostel that is not too far and inconvenient for you [21:33:28] 03(mod) Hidden accounts still listed in Special:ListUsers and Special:Log/globalauth - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35928 (10hurricanefan25.wikipedia) [21:33:29] yeah [21:33:58] esby: also, I'm not sure if this is clear in the application, but assistance is not guaranteed [21:35:04] sumanah: yes i know [21:35:18] esby: oh good, I'm sorry for the redundancy [21:35:29] esby: you can understand that I feel the need to ensure no one gets misled [21:36:20] yes, that's why i asked if helped and if not helped [21:36:29] to have an exact idea of the cost [21:36:48] Nod. [21:37:00] i submitted a request on the french chapter side, which have a micro finantial commission ('micro financement' in french) [21:37:09] which can help for some project [21:37:30] I don't think WMDE end up turning many people down [21:37:40] Well, this year might be different [21:37:49] Indeed [21:37:52] Never quite know [21:38:05] This year we are expanding the event slightly [21:38:10] from about 100 to about 125 [21:38:23] "slightly" [21:38:33] and I have made an effort to reach out to toolserver people, gadgets people, bots people, etc etc [21:38:37] it's *only* 25% more [21:38:48] many of whom have never even been invited to this kind of event before, much less attended [21:38:57] 03siebrand * 10/trunk/translatewiki/MantisBT/MantisBT.yaml: Update group IDs to improve exports. [21:39:27] so they aren't The Usual Suspects [21:39:39] you don't want a huge crowd, young padawan [21:39:56] and so, the sponsorship for some of them might be partial reimbursement rather than full rides [21:40:11] MaxSem: I am listening [21:40:17] MaxSem: (re hugeness & crowds) [21:40:25] New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4751 [21:40:56] sumanah, nothing epic but usual "quantity over quality" [21:41:04] 03(mod) Enable hook to block addition of trailing whitespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35600 +comment (10Chad H.) [21:41:06] oh, the other way around:) [21:41:18] MaxSem: understood. Well, as a caution or as an urging -- works either way :) [21:41:43] sumanah: you said 125, but the event registration system said 100 ? are there 25 people not handled by it ? [21:42:17] esby: let me see if there is a problem with the event reg system. [21:42:37] esby: could you point me to where it says 100? [21:42:43] 03(mod) Not possible to transclude to single paragraph over multiple instances of - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35757 +comment (10Doug) [21:42:46] esby: I'm seeing "120" [21:42:56] k [21:43:01] 03(NEW) Watchlist doesn't show previous edits - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35929 normal; MediaWiki: Watchlist; (mybugs.mail) [21:43:09] esby: Also, please don't hold me to the "125" number -- it's an estimate [21:43:40] esby: there will be last-minute drop-outs, invitees, a few spaces held for last-minute "oh wait, duh", etc [21:43:55] New review: Brion VIBBER; "This makes the subtitle link bar match more closely between special:contributions and special:delete..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4751 [21:44:08] Change merged: Brion VIBBER; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4751 [21:44:24] when i first checked it i remember seeing 100 registrations left, now i see 37 meft [21:44:27] left [21:44:38] esby: how long did you wait between those two checks? [21:45:08] sumanah: the first time when was i received a mail from the en wikipedia [21:45:09] esby: originally I believe we did set the registration limit at 100, and then I increased it to 150, and then I decreased it to 120 [21:45:19] sumanah: that would explain it [21:45:49] how to save gerrit inline comments? [21:45:58] Platonides: you have to publish a comment via the review page [21:46:21] Platonides: this is in https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Workflow#Viewing_and_commenting_on_code I think [21:48:26] New review: Platonides; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4609 [21:48:29] ok [21:50:06] 14(INVALID) Three new repos for Gerrit. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35515 +comment (10Chad H.) [21:50:36] 03(NEW) Maps on Android app should show 'current location' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35930 normal; Wikipedia App: Near by; (yuvipanda) [21:53:26] <^demon> Oh man, gerrit has an awesome new doc in 2.3 [21:53:33] <^demon> http://gerrit-dev.wmflabs.org/r/Documentation/intro-quick.html [21:54:18] 03(mod) Langage list has lots of white space while scrolling - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35779 (10Yuvi Panda) [21:56:41] New review: GWicke; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4789 [21:56:44] Change merged: GWicke; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4789 [22:00:33] New review: Trevor Parscal; "Please submit a patch set with line lengths limited at 100 chars. If we defer renaming until later, ..." [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4798 [22:04:21] hi [22:04:59] is it possible to have a template that adds tags to the generated page? [22:07:28] What do you mean? [22:08:41] STalKer-X: you mean like e> [22:09:47] Reedy: pages that contain transcluded pages usually take over all the categories from the transcluded page, which I do not want [22:10:07] a solution is to put those categories into tags [22:10:35] but since i already define the categories in the template, it is not possible to add the tag there. [22:10:48] except there is a workaround [22:13:06] does not work ;) [22:15:01] i would need a something that tells the template that this tag should be on the generated page :x [22:15:08] 03(mod) Integrate git/Gerrit and Bugzilla - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/17322 +comment (10Chad H.) [22:15:23] includeonly? [22:16:32] 03(mod) Extract embedded text from DjVu and PDF documents for search - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/6421 summary; +comment (10Doug) [22:16:32] 03(mod) Wikisource related bugs and enhancements (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35925 (10Doug) [22:16:52] Reedy: i want the tags to be on the generated page [22:17:12] yeah [22:17:32] foobar [22:18:08] i don't think that will work [22:18:43] you've hardly got the worlds best worded question :p [22:18:47] 03(mod) update statistic/count tables on newly created wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34184 minor->normal; summary (10Robin Pepermans (SPQRobin)) [22:19:18] Reedy: maybe an example? :x [22:19:24] might help :) [22:19:37] okay [22:20:56] New review: Demon; "Is there a reason we're setting this on 1.20wmf1 and not master?" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf1); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4805 [22:21:32] let's say i call a template with {{Template|param1|param2}} [22:21:42] O_o mousemove events on the iPad seem a little..... off [22:22:20] Small vertical scroll...; { wheelDeltaY: 83520, wheelDeltaX: 122880 } [22:22:39] the template says: blabla {{{param1}}}/{{{param2}}}
[[Category:Stuff]] [22:22:54] ;) And about 22 of those events [22:22:55] within [22:22:59] 03(mod) Vector 'user' icon is low-resolution - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35341 +comment (10Chad H.) [22:23:01] ^demon: he is backporting [22:23:07] I think it is in master and 1.19 and such [22:23:13] <^demon> Where's the master rev? I didn't see it [22:23:25] I think I reviewed it, can't recall offhand [22:23:28] <^demon> Ah, 4741 [22:23:31] <^demon> Missed that. [22:24:08] SyntaxHighlight_GeSHi is broken on mediawiki.org and on master when $wgUseTidy = true; [22:24:09] what i would want as output should be: blabla param1/param2 [[Category:Stuff]] [22:24:18] New review: Trevor Parscal; "Looks OK, but I think we have some naming issues. In one place we have getSelectionRange, which shou..." [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4809 [22:24:23] Apparently, Tidy doesn't like nested pre tags. [22:24:25] New review: Demon; "Didn't see https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#change,4741. This is fine." [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf1); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4805 [22:24:42] Example: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Wikidiff2 [22:24:42] Change merged: Demon; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf1) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4805 [22:26:27] 03(mod) Line Numbers on Wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/13644 (10Doug) [22:26:27] 03(mod) Wikisource related bugs and enhancements (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35925 (10Doug) [22:27:01] New review: Brion VIBBER; "Looks pretty good now -- but I'd recommend tweaking the commit message and the test cases to clarify..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4609 [22:27:50] New patchset: Demon; "[FileBackend] Simplified fj_batch_id index" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4748 [22:28:26] New review: Demon; "Just formatted the commit summary a bit." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4748 [22:29:08] New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4748 [22:29:16] Reedy: understood? ;D [22:29:39] PleaseStand: it's a known issue, bug is filed for it [22:32:04] 03(mod) ProofreadPage broken for GIF images due to assuming it can always create thumbnails - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/17791 (10Doug) [22:32:04] 03(mod) Wikisource related bugs and enhancements (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35925 (10Doug) [22:32:43] 03(mod) Vector 'user' icon is low-resolution - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35341 +comment (10Trevor Parscal) [22:35:56] Reedy: So this change was only reverted on 1.19wmf1 and not master? [22:36:57] PleaseStand: it's not been reverted anywhere [22:39:06] New review: Trevor Parscal; "LOL - ok, I read the diff backwards, this is all good." [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4809 [22:39:23] Change merged: Trevor Parscal; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4809 [22:40:35] Reedy: Yes, it was... over a month ago: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/113200 [22:40:43] oh lord, please forgive me as I have looked at the gerrit source code. [22:41:45] New review: Demon; "Just a minor style issue in writeMessagesArray. Otherwise looks ready to go." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4540 [22:42:12] Ok, apparently, that seems to be the case [22:42:21] 03(mod) Broken revisions with rev_page=0 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/16674 15enhancement->trivial (10Doug) [22:42:22] 03(mod) Wikisource related bugs and enhancements (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35925 (10Doug) [22:42:48] 03(mod)
 tags generated by extensions should not be collapsed into 
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by Tidy - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35875 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [22:43:04] meh [22:47:40] New patchset: Reedy; "Revert r113190 per bug 35875" [mediawiki/extensions/SyntaxHighlight_GeSHi] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4820 [22:56:51] 03(mod) Support linking to the image description page of a specific "page" of an image, using wiki internal link syntax - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/14788 (10Doug) [22:56:51] 03(mod) Wikisource related bugs and enhancements (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35925 (10Doug) [22:57:39] 03(mod) Upgrade Wikimedia OTRS installation to the latest version - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22622 +comment (10Philippe Beaudette) [22:58:21] 03(mod) Upgrade Wikimedia OTRS installation to the latest version - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22622 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [23:02:47] 03(mod) Wikisource related bugs and enhancements (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35925 (10Doug) [23:02:47] 03(mod) Suggestion to implement page-level links into uploaded PDF files [[media:foo.pdf|page=n]] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/4198 (10Doug) [23:06:48] 03(mod)
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by Tidy - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35875 +comment (10Krinkle) [23:07:26] New review: Krinkle; "Pending https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35875#c11 - if it takes too long, revert now ..." [mediawiki/extensions/SyntaxHighlight_GeSHi] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4820 [23:10:54] New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Failed " [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf1); V: -1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4803 [23:10:59] 03(NEW) key mapping issues in Narayam Gujarati transliteration - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35931 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Narayam; (dsvyas) [23:12:20] 03(NEW) Weird half-speed touch scrolling intermittent under iOS 5 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35932 normal; Wikipedia App: Generic; (brion) [23:12:47] how can I convert one date format to what user prefers?? [23:12:49] 03bsitu * 10/trunk/extensions/PageTriage/ (5 files in 3 dirs): Add support of metadata update upon user being blocked [23:13:04] I have a date in ISO format and I want to display it depending on user date settings [23:15:06] 03(NEW) iOS 4.x can't scroll to end of page after switching orientation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35933 normal; Wikipedia App: Generic; (brion) [23:16:52] 03(mod) Wikipedia Mobile app has serious issues with iOS 4.2 - Tracking - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35776 (10Tomasz Finc) [23:16:52] 03(mod) iOS 4.x can't scroll to end of page after switching orientation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35933 (10Tomasz Finc) [23:18:40] 03(NEW) Text zooms on landscape orientation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35934 minor; Wikipedia App: Generic; (jarry1250) [23:20:55] 03(mod) "Download as PDF" outputs A4 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33882 (10Doug) [23:20:58] 03(mod) Wikisource related bugs and enhancements (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35925 (10Doug) [23:21:52] 03(mod) Download as PDF image formatted incorrectly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31678 (10Doug) [23:21:52] 03(mod) Wikisource related bugs and enhancements (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35925 (10Doug) [23:24:46] 03(mod) iOS 4.2 Startup time is horrendously long - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35838 +comment (10Brion Vibber) [23:24:54] New patchset: Robmoen; "Fix up FormatDropdownTool Effectively stopping & starting polling prior to conversion Getting Selection from model Reselecting after conversion (TODO: modify selection to entire block ?)" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4824 [23:29:16] New review: Trevor Parscal; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4824 [23:29:18] Change merged: Trevor Parscal; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4824 [23:32:09] 03(mod) Weird half-speed touch scrolling intermittent under iOS 5 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35932 +comment (10Janardan Yri) [23:33:21] 03(FIXED) iOS 4.x can't scroll to end of page after switching orientation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35933 +comment (10Brion Vibber) [23:33:30] YuviPanda: confirmed scrolling after orientation fixed on 4.3 [23:38:26] New patchset: Robmoen; "Cleanup terms used in annotation method" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4825 [23:39:27] 03(mod) iOS 4.2 Startup time is horrendously long - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35838 +comment (10Yuvi Panda) [23:47:05] Naturally, becoming a developer takes a while, but where would one be best to start? [23:48:47] 03(NEW) Special:Version no longer comparable due to non sequential git style version numbers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35935 normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (jidanni) [23:50:13] New patchset: Demon; "Deleting a file for testing" [test/mediawiki/extensions/examples] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4826 [23:52:12] New review: Demon; "(no comment)" [test/mediawiki/extensions/examples] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4826 [23:52:15] Change merged: Demon; [test/mediawiki/extensions/examples] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4826 [23:55:34] New patchset: Demon; "Tweaking gitreview for a test" [test/mediawiki/extensions/examples] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4828 [23:55:55] New review: Demon; "(no comment)" [test/mediawiki/extensions/examples] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4828 [23:55:57] Change merged: Demon; [test/mediawiki/extensions/examples] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4828