[00:12:45] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Werdna; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/MoodBar] (master); V: 0 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4749
[00:15:33] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Mobile app for iPhone is a bad bad release. It barely works - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35936 major; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (stevewaldron)
[00:16:38] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Werdna; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/MoodBar] (master); V: 0 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4676
[00:18:20] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Beta Image detail nav box has uses white and gray making it unreadable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35937 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend; (tfinc)
[00:18:34] <raindrift>	 RoanKattouw:  hey!  are you around?  i have a weird RL question for you...
[00:19:44] <werdna>	 hey raindrift, wassup?
[00:19:54] <raindrift>	 werdna:  hey!
[00:20:00] <raindrift>	 how's it going?
[00:20:12] <werdna>	 pretty okay
[00:20:27] <werdna>	 sitting down for the day
[00:20:31] <RoanKattouw>	 raindrift: Shoot
[00:20:31] <werdna>	 doing some code review. yay.
[00:20:45] <raindrift>	 fun!
[00:21:05] <raindrift>	 RoanKattouw:  is there any way i can load a script with a content-type other than text/javascript?
[00:21:25] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Catrope; "Revert "Bit more refactoring"" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4829
[00:21:27] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Cite fails to properly respect CITE_DEFAULT_GROUP - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35675  (10bluehairedlawyer)
[00:21:39] <werdna>	 how does one alter a gerrit change?
[00:21:51] <raindrift>	 RoanKattouw:  specifically, i'm attempting to load backbone templates, which live in script tags and are interpreted by client-side code.  currently i'm just putting them in <script> tags in the special page, but i'd like to keep them in separate files.
[00:21:54] <RoanKattouw>	 !amend | werdna 
[00:21:57] <mw-bot>	 werdna: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Workflow#Amend_your_change
[00:22:40] <werdna>	 right, and checking out all exts will probably be on the same page
[00:22:43] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4829
[00:22:52] <codurr>	 03preilly * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114874> 10/branches/wmf/1.19wmf1/extensions/MobileFrontend/ (36 files in 8 dirs): revert back to MFG Change-Id: I5bfa27fd46de233cf8f08eee60575b9381151ac6
[00:24:09] <raindrift>	 RoanKattouw:  you can see what i'm talking about here: http://svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/PageTriage/SpecialPageTriage.php
[00:24:41] <werdna>	 RoanKattouw? How does one check out *all* exts?
[00:24:46] <werdna>	 I can't find it on the doc page
[00:25:05] <RoanKattouw>	 werdna: Hrmph, ask ^demon 
[00:25:22] <RoanKattouw>	 raindrift: Hang on, I'm helping like 3 people and you're the 3rd
[00:25:39] <werdna>	 ^demon!!!!
[00:25:41] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Catrope; "+2ing myself because Tim said it was fine" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4829
[00:25:42] <^demon>	 werdna: You wait patiently until I upgrade us to to 2.3
[00:25:43] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Catrope; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4829
[00:25:51] <werdna>	 :(
[00:26:16] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Demon; "Fix bogus submodule reference from 764e302." [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf1) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4830
[00:26:59] <^demon>	 Ok, AbuseFilter should be fixed.
[00:27:41] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Failed " [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf1); V: -1 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4830
[00:31:51] <raindrift>	 RoanKattouw:  no problem.  take your time.  i'll be here.  :)
[00:32:58] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Cite fails to properly respect CITE_DEFAULT_GROUP - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35675  (10bluehairedlawyer)
[00:34:21] <RoanKattouw>	 ^demon: AbuseFilter is indeed fixed with that, thanks
[00:35:00] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Catrope; "Overriding Jenkins to approve." [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf1); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4830
[00:35:03] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Catrope; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf1) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4830
[00:35:32] <RoanKattouw>	 https://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/MediaWiki-Tests-Parser/606/testReport/junit/%28root%29/ParserTests__testParserTest/testParserTest_with_data_set__0/  grr
[00:35:42] <^demon>	 That's been happening off and on today.
[00:35:51] <^demon>	 I find it odd that it runs out of time on empty input.
[00:36:06] <RoanKattouw>	 lol
[00:37:25] <Gil>	 hey guys - wondering if someone can help me with css. I'd like to add a menu bar to the top of mediawiki to give us consistency with the rest of our site. The css code for the menubar wrapper is at http://www.believe.vg/stylesheet.css - is there a way to add this to mediawiki without hard editing a skin?
[00:39:46] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Werdna; "AbuseFilter: Resolve bugs 18374, 28633. * Store the revision ID associated with a log entry if the action is successful. * Expose this as a diff link in the UI. * Implicitly hide log entries if their corresponding revisions are also hidden. * Includes sco" [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/3435
[00:40:27] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Werdna; "One issue addressed, I don't think the other is valid." [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/3435
[00:40:38] <werdna>	 RoanKattouw: ^^ when you're ready
[00:41:20] <codurr>	 03bsitu * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114875> 10/trunk/extensions/PageTriage/ (3 files in 2 dirs): alter pagetriage page deletion process
[00:44:18] <YuviPanda>	 raindrift: re: templates, you can. I just did that in one of my scripts with underscore.js templates
[00:44:23] <YuviPanda>	 let me find the code
[00:44:48] <YuviPanda>	 raindrift: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:YuviPanda/js-utils/ClientTemplate.js
[00:44:54] <YuviPanda>	 ctype=text/x-wiki works
[00:45:21] <YuviPanda>	 raindrift: documented at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Parameters_to_index.php#Raw
[00:47:09] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Aaron Schulz; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master); V: 0 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/3435
[00:47:28] <werdna>	 what've you found, AaronSchulz 
[00:48:24] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Catrope; "Fix https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4830 , I botched the conflict resolution there" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4831
[00:48:52] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Werdna; "AbuseFilter: Resolve bugs 18374, 28633. * Store the revision ID associated with a log entry if the action is successful. * Expose this as a diff link in the UI. * Implicitly hide log entries if their corresponding revisions are also hidden. * Includes sco" [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/3435
[00:49:03] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Ages with URLs beginning with a number show the footer only - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35938 normal; Wikimedia Mobile: Generic; (blausand)
[00:49:11] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Werdna; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/3435
[00:49:41] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Demon; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4831
[00:49:43] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4831
[00:49:43] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Demon; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4831
[00:50:45] <RoanKattouw>	 OK raindrift , your turn
[00:51:18] <RoanKattouw>	 So you're saying something lives in <script> tags, yet its content type is not text/javascript? How does that work?
[00:51:28] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Mobile app for iPhone is a bad bad release. It barely works - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35936  +comment (10MZMcBride)
[00:51:29] <YuviPanda>	 RoanKattouw: i *think* I answered raindrift's questions because I ran into them 2 weeks ago and Krinkle helped. He hasn't responded back to me though
[00:52:00] <raindrift>	 RoanKattouw:  one sec, fetching a link.
[00:52:05] <RoanKattouw>	 Oh, I see
[00:52:08] <Krinkle>	 templates ?
[00:52:12] <RoanKattouw>	 backbone/underscore templates
[00:52:16] <raindrift>	 yes, indeed.
[00:52:38] <RoanKattouw>	 OK so at least 1/2 of your templating needs are i18n
[00:52:48] <Krinkle>	 yeah, its a popular way to stuff html into a page without having to hide it with css nor having it throw a DOM exception or js parse error
[00:52:48] <RoanKattouw>	 And we have jquery.localize for that
[00:52:54] <AaronSchulz>	 werdna: what's with ARTICLE -> article?
[00:53:14] <Krinkle>	 but not most cases that template should be loaded from an API or wiki page with AJAX, not inside the page with <script>
[00:53:17] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Trouble finding commit bd7a268e4be2da23ba0b9943c3b0ba1ac88294dc in gitweb - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35461  +comment (10Chad H.)
[00:53:18] <Krinkle>	 in*
[00:53:28] <werdna>	 AaronSchulz: context?
[00:53:40] <raindrift>	 err, it doesn't make sense to load the template from an api, since it doesn't change.
[00:53:41] <AaronSchulz>	 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#patch,sidebyside,3435,4,AbuseFilter.hooks.php
[00:53:56] <AaronSchulz>	 opps I mean ACTION -> action
[00:54:06] <werdna>	 AaronSchulz: Well, they're non-case-sensitive
[00:54:08] <werdna>	 so it doesn't matter
[00:54:12] <werdna>	 and I thought it was ugly
[00:55:11] <AaronSchulz>	 heh
[00:55:18] <RoanKattouw>	 RoanKattouw	raindrift: ResourceLoader only ever loads things as text/js , even CSS is loaded that way (as a string)
[00:56:13] <AaronSchulz>	 werdna: why do you have $this->isHidden( $row )? isn't that static?
[00:56:24] <AaronSchulz>	 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#patch,sidebyside,3435,4,special/SpecialAbuseLog.php
[00:58:04] <werdna>	 I guess so
[00:58:52] * werdna  pushes a new version

[00:58:53] <Krinkle>	 raindrift: that's exactly why you should load it from the api
[00:59:00] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Werdna; "AbuseFilter: Resolve bugs 18374, 28633. * Store the revision ID associated with a log entry if the action is successful. * Expose this as a diff link in the UI. * Implicitly hide log entries if their corresponding revisions are also hidden. * Includes sco" [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/3435
[01:00:34] <raindrift>	 Krinkle:  but…  i'd sort of like it to be in the browser's cache.
[01:00:54] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Demon; "bug 123" [test/mediawiki/extensions/examples] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4828
[01:01:01] <Krinkle>	 raindrift: Yes, and that will never happen if it is embedded on every page load again, which isn't cached
[01:01:30] <Sid-G>	 i'm looking at an svg on commons whose png thumbnail produced by mediawiki renders correctly but the svg itself renders incorrectly
[01:01:32] <Krinkle>	 if it is not specific to this exact page, it shouldn't be on it and loaded externally so that it can be cached in all layers between php and the browser
[01:01:34] <AaronSchulz>	 werdna: onArticleSaveComplete can give null revisions
[01:01:53] <Krinkle>	 it'll be in varnish static cache, it'll be in the browser cache with expire, max-age and 304 not modified etc.
[01:01:56] <RoanKattouw>	 If he just makes it an RL module as I suggested over in -dev (sorry for the channel split), that'll be taken care of automatically
[01:01:58] <Krinkle>	 saves bandwidth as well :)
[01:02:07] <Firebolt>	 varnish?
[01:02:07] <Krinkle>	 yep
[01:02:28] <Sid-G>	 how is that possible?
[01:02:28] <Krinkle>	 Firebolt: Varnish is the reverse proxy cache wmf uses on bits.wikimedia.org
[01:02:33] <Firebolt>	 ah, okay
[01:03:02] <Krinkle>	 Sid-G: So that means whatever engine you use to parse the svg is broken
[01:03:16] <Krinkle>	 browser, or illustrator editor, I don't know
[01:03:20] <Sid-G>	 Krinkle:I've tried three different browsers and inkscape
[01:03:29] <Sid-G>	 Krinkle:all render the svg incorrectly
[01:03:38] <Krinkle>	 Or the svg is broken and the parser that wmf uses just handles it slightly better
[01:03:45] <Sid-G>	 refering to http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Cheatsheet-en.svg
[01:03:47] <Krinkle>	 try running it through the w3 svg validator
[01:03:54] <Krinkle>	 {{ValidSVG}}
[01:04:19] <Krinkle>	 either way, what your browser renders when you download the full size svg is not in mediawikis or wikimedia's control.
[01:04:31] <YuviPanda>	 raindrift: maxage param on action=raw should help with caching, no? 
[01:04:41] <YuviPanda>	 (that's what I'm using for a similar scenario and it seems to work fine)
[01:05:43] <Krinkle>	 YuviPanda: the convo has continued in #wikimedia-dev
[01:05:52] <AaronSchulz>	 werdna: where did you update the main .sql file?
[01:05:53] <Krinkle>	 not sure why, but w/e just fyi
[01:06:00] <YuviPanda>	 Krinkle: ah, right. okay
[01:06:02] <AaronSchulz>	 I just see the patch
[01:10:30] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Aaron Schulz; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master); V: 0 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/3435
[01:10:59] <AaronSchulz>	 RoanKattouw: can you review https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#change,4748?
[01:11:03] <AaronSchulz>	 it's crazy simple
[01:13:34] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Catrope; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4748
[01:13:37] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Catrope; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4748
[01:14:21] <AaronSchulz>	 TimStarling: how do resolve 'configure: error: Package requirements (luajit) were not met:'
[01:14:26] <codurr>	 03preilly * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114876> 10/branches/wmf/1.19wmf1/extensions/MobileFrontend/ (36 files in 8 dirs): 1.19wmf: MFG Change-Id: I0399288753811f0c77574df3e58232a8e53d03fa
[01:14:39] <AaronSchulz>	 * how do I
[01:15:15] <TimStarling>	 apt-get install liblua5.1-dev
[01:15:28] <Firebolt>	 a wild TimStarling appears?
[01:15:43] <TimStarling>	 or maybe liblua5.1-0-dev
[01:16:29] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Reedy; "Trailing whitespace, and messages need adding to messages.inc" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4797
[01:17:55] <AaronSchulz>	 'We would like to send this report automatically to the PHP QA team'
[01:17:58] * AaronSchulz  snickers

[01:17:59] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Mobile app for iPhone is a bad bad release. It barely works - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35936  +comment (10Yuvi Panda)
[01:18:15] <TimStarling>	 yeah make test is pretty stupid
[01:18:29] <wikibugs>	 14(DUP) Mobile app for iPhone is a bad bad release. It barely works - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35936  +comment (10Yuvi Panda)
[01:18:30] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Wikipedia Mobile app has serious issues with iOS 4.2 - Tracking - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35776  +comment (10Yuvi Panda)
[01:18:36] <TimStarling>	 you should see the mailing list those mails end up at
[01:21:51] <AaronSchulz>	 now I just have to figure how to get php to use this ;)
[01:22:53] <chuck>	 how do resource module dependencies work? I'm trying to create a skin called 'skins.myawesomeskin' with a 'dependencies' => array( 'someother.thing' ) dependency, but it doesn't seem to actually be using that dependency
[01:22:53] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Implement $wgResourcesPath and $wgResourcesDirectory - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31173  +comment (10Krinkle)
[01:23:17] <AaronSchulz>	 gah, dl is not on
[01:23:17] <Krinkle>	 !b | RoanKattouw 
[01:23:17] <mw-bot>	 RoanKattouw: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=`e1
[01:23:21] <Krinkle>	 !b 31173
[01:23:21] <mw-bot>	 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31173
[01:23:30] <Krinkle>	 RoanKattouw: Can you take a look at that last comment?
[01:24:10] <chuck>	 and here's the code: https://gist.github.com/2372587
[01:26:07] <AaronSchulz>	 TimStarling:  /usr/lib/php5/20090626/luasandbox.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory :)
[01:26:25] <TimStarling>	 did you run "make install"
[01:26:31] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Implement $wgResourcesPath and $wgResourcesDirectory - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31173  +comment (10Krinkle)
[01:26:52] <AaronSchulz>	 ;)
[01:27:48] <Krinkle>	 chuck: I'm not sure whats going on, but a lot of things could be going on
[01:27:59] <Krinkle>	 chuck: I'd recommend starting by not modifying core files
[01:28:15] <Krinkle>	 instead create ./extensions/mycoolskin/mycoolskin.php and include that from LocalSettings.php
[01:28:25] <Krinkle>	 and use wgResourceModules to register the modules
[01:28:38] <TimStarling>	 AaronSchulz: are you on 32 bit or 64 bit?
[01:28:39] <Krinkle>	 the format for wgResourceModules is the same as the array in ./resources/Resources.php
[01:29:11] <Krinkle>	 except that you need to add an extra property 'remoteExtPath' => 'mycoolskin'
[01:29:18] <chuck>	 okay!
[01:29:18] <AaronSchulz>	 64 I hope
[01:29:35] <AaronSchulz>	 anyway I have the .so file now
[01:30:31] <Krinkle>	 chuck: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgResourceModules
[01:30:46] <AaronSchulz>	 TimStarling: are you using extension=/var/www/mw_trunk/php/luasandbox/modules/luasandbox.so ?
[01:31:01] <AaronSchulz>	 (or the like)
[01:31:43] <TimStarling>	 no, I use make install and extension=luasandbox.so
[01:31:53] <TimStarling>	 with extension_dir set correctly
[01:32:07] <RoanKattouw>	 Krinkle: I would love to discuss that later but my brain is shutting down
[01:32:11] <RoanKattouw>	 I need to get food and go home
[01:32:24] <Krinkle>	 np
[01:34:50] <Krinkle>	 lol, that weird docroot alias does more than just cause a double path in ./w/resources-1.20wmf1/resources/*
[01:34:55] <Krinkle>	 it also makes this public https://www.mediawiki.org/w/resources-1.20wmf1/index.php
[01:34:57] <Krinkle>	 yikes?
[01:35:55] <RoanKattouw>	 Yeah I'm sure it's screwed up
[01:35:58] <RoanKattouw>	 But I need sleep :D
[01:36:22] <Krinkle>	 I'll buzz AaronSchulz , he is mwversion expert
[01:40:11] <codurr>	 03preilly * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114877> 10/branches/wmf/1.19wmf1/extensions/MobileFrontend/templates/ApplicationTemplate.php: 1.19wmf: MFG Change-Id: I2178590d493320d362649f50af7ab2a9675bdc7b
[01:40:21] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) 1.19/1.20 wgResourceBasePath hack for accessing resourceloader /w/resources/ problems - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35939 major; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (krinklemail)
[01:40:35] <AaronSchulz>	 TimStarling: like http://www.php.net/manual/en/install.pecl.static.php ?
[01:41:07] <YuviPanda>	 Krinkle: https://www.mediawiki.org/w/resources-1.20wmf1/LocalSettings.php interesting error?
[01:41:13] <YuviPanda>	 or maybe not
[01:41:21] <Krinkle>	 " Failed opening required './includes/ProfilerStub.php' "
[01:41:22] <Krinkle>	 yeah
[01:41:32] <Krinkle>	 but its bug 35939
[01:41:35] <Krinkle>	 AaronSchulz: ^
[01:41:36] <TimStarling>	 AaronSchulz: no, that is for static linking
[01:41:57] <TimStarling>	 I just mean: phpize && make && sudo make install
[01:42:32] <TimStarling>	 that should put the .so file in the extension directory configured into phpize
[01:42:49] <TimStarling>	 then you can put extension=luasandbox.so in your php.ini
[01:43:08] <TimStarling>	 like this: http://www.php.net/manual/en/install.pecl.phpize.php
[01:45:46] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Special:Version no longer comparable due to non sequential git style version numbers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35935  (10jidanni)
[01:46:57] <AaronSchulz>	 TimStarling: is 'php luasandbox.php' supposed to work?
[01:47:51] <TimStarling>	 no, that is some automatically generated rubbish
[01:48:14] <TimStarling>	 make test is meant to work though
[01:48:31] <AaronSchulz>	 oh, it was giving 'Call to undefined function confirm_luasandbox_compiled() in /var/www/mw_trunk/php/luasandbox/luasandbox.php on line 16'
[01:48:47] <AaronSchulz>	 I thought it was a sanity test script
[01:53:51] <AaronSchulz>	 TimStarling: so how does one go about testing it on mw?
[01:54:27] <TimStarling>	 install the Scribunto extension
[01:54:49] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Mobile sites being indexed by search engines - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35233  +comment (10Erik Moeller)
[01:54:49] <TimStarling>	 then you get a Module namespace
[01:55:07] * AaronSchulz  already did the first one ;)

[01:56:13] <TimStarling>	 make a page in the module namespace, then use {{#invoke:mod|func}} to invoke a function in it
[01:56:26] <TimStarling>	 the module should look something like:
[01:56:32] <TimStarling>	 local p = {}
[01:56:39] <TimStarling>	 function p.myFunction()
[01:56:40] <TimStarling>	 ...
[01:56:41] <TimStarling>	 end
[01:56:43] <TimStarling>	 return p
[01:56:53] <AaronSchulz>	 can you dump a sample module on mw.org?
[01:57:04] <AaronSchulz>	 well, I guess you well when you document the extension
[01:57:13] <TimStarling>	 I would but my test wiki is too broken to get the text out of it
[01:57:30] <TimStarling>	 I have a really big patch pending to Scribunto, don't change anything in it
[01:57:44] <TimStarling>	 I'm introducing a LuaStandalone engine
[01:57:44] <AaronSchulz>	 I don't know enough to change anything yet
[01:57:55] <AaronSchulz>	 the one that shells out?
[01:57:58] <TimStarling>	 yes
[01:58:11] <AaronSchulz>	 easier for windows prolly :)
[01:58:22] <TimStarling>	 that's why I was asking you about 32-bit vs 64-bit btw, I need a 32-bit lua binary
[01:58:23] * AaronSchulz  is on ubuntu right now

[01:58:44] <TimStarling>	 I'll probably make a chroot or something
[02:00:35] * AaronSchulz  is falling in love with kubuntu

[02:09:19] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) update.php throws "Call to undefined method DatabasePostgres::realTableName()" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35927   +postgresql (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[02:15:28] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Beta Desktop view switcher incorrectly sets useformat=mobile when on http://en.m.wikipedia.org/ - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35940 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend; (tfinc)
[02:15:57] <AaronSchulz>	 TimStarling: how do you pass args to functions with #invoke?
[02:17:38] <TimStarling>	 {{#invoke:module|func|arg1|arg2}}
[02:17:46] <TimStarling>	 that interface is not completely decided though
[02:17:52] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Beta Desktop view switcher incorrectly sets useformat=mobile when on http://en.m.wikipedia.org/ - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35940  +comment (10Patrick Reilly)
[02:18:10] <TimStarling>	 Victor is not sure about it, and I haven't thought about it too hard
[02:18:26] <AaronSchulz>	 {{#invoke:LuaTest|myFunction|3}}
[02:18:27] <AaronSchulz>	 Lua error: Module:LuaTest:5: attempt to compare number with string
[02:18:47] <AaronSchulz>	 TimStarling: I guess people might be used to the pipe way in some sense
[02:18:53] <AaronSchulz>	 hrmm
[02:19:36] <TimStarling>	 well, we don't want to introduce new parser syntax, so it has to be pipes if you want to use parser functions
[02:20:15] <TimStarling>	 the other option would be to allow Lua expressions, I guess
[02:20:31] <TimStarling>	 but some people argued against that on the grounds of elegance or readability or something
[02:20:48] <AaronSchulz>	 you could always make two #invoke's
[02:20:50] * AaronSchulz  snickers

[02:20:54] <Sid-G>	 are we not enabling lua entirely?
[02:21:08] <Sid-G>	 meaning we'd have limited abilities of lua?
[02:21:17] <Sid-G>	 not all the abilities of lua, that is
[02:21:19] <AaronSchulz>	 well of course it's limited in some ways
[02:21:38] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Mobile sites being indexed by search engines - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35233  +comment (10Erik Moeller)
[02:21:41] <AaronSchulz>	 you like O/I related stuff :)
[02:22:00] <TimStarling>	 right, obviously we can't allow os.execute()
[02:22:17] <AaronSchulz>	 *you know
[02:22:18] <TimStarling>	 less obviously, getfenv() might not be possible at least for now
[02:22:42] <TimStarling>	 but we will have pcall() and xpcall()
[02:24:23] <TimStarling>	 oh, loadstring() will be missing, that's a fairly major restriction
[02:25:09] <Sid-G>	 is lua server-side scripting or client-side?
[02:25:12] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Mobile sites being indexed by search engines - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35233  +comment (10Patrick Reilly)
[02:25:20] <TimStarling>	 server-side
[02:25:49] <Sid-G>	 we're adding lua5.1 or 5.2?
[02:26:03] <TimStarling>	 5.1
[02:26:07] <Sid-G>	 thanks
[02:27:27] <camponez>	 Hi, after upgrade to 1.18.2 from 1.17 My skin is gone! :/ any ideas?
[02:27:39] <camponez>	 everything else seems fine
[02:27:44] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Followup to bug 11374 - tweaks to mediawiki.action.history.diff.css - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35923   +need-review +patch (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[02:28:16] <camponez>	 But I have no skin anymore, I have tried change skins, no luck
[02:29:18] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) wgLogo should be globally Wiki.png - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/26993  +comment (10Hazard-SJ)
[02:30:09] <Sid-G>	 TimStarling:Just out of curiosity, how long do you expect it will take for lua to roll out to wmf-wikis?
[02:31:30] <camponez>	 Something wrong with CSS I guess
[02:31:43] <TimStarling>	 some fairly small number of months I should think
[02:31:50] <Joan>	 camponez: So the page loads, it's just unstyled?
[02:31:55] <Joan>	 Or you get a completely white screen?
[02:31:58] <TimStarling>	 there will be a fairly long period where it's just deployed to a few wikis, like mediawiki.org
[02:32:06] <AaronSchulz>	 will [[United States]] load in <10 seconds? :)
[02:32:07] <camponez>	 Joan: just unstyled
[02:32:09] <Joan>	 If there's content, but no styling, look at the page source.
[02:32:15] <Joan>	 And find the CSS insertion code.
[02:32:22] <Joan>	 And see if it loads properly, has the right code, etc.
[02:32:31] <TimStarling>	 I was looking at Lua performance yesterday
[02:32:41] <TimStarling>	 it has a nasty edge case involving concatenation of many strings
[02:32:56] <Joan>	 Rewrite rules can screw up CSS. Or maybe the ResourceLoader in 1.18? Or maybe you didn't move the files when upgrading?
[02:32:56] <Sid-G>	 TimStarling:So no point in trying to improve complex templates right now since it would be possible do it better after lua is out?
[02:33:00] <TimStarling>	 I'm seriously considering implementing print() just to avoid it in some cases
[02:33:05] <Joan>	 Lots of possibilities.
[02:33:18] <Joan>	 camponez: You can append ?useskin=monobook to a URL to specify a skin.
[02:33:23] <Joan>	 Or ?useskin=vector or whatever.
[02:33:24] <chuck>	 why does HTMLForm generate tables :'(
[02:33:33] <Joan>	 chuck: Ryan_Lane was complaining about that too.
[02:33:37] <Joan>	 I'm not sure anyone's filed a bug.
[02:33:41] <Joan>	 So that's probably why. ;-)
[02:33:43] <camponez>	 Joan: I didnt move, I did a tar xvf -C
[02:33:56] <camponez>	 Joan: usesking=monobook does not wokr
[02:34:11] <Joan>	 camponez: What about &useskin=monobook ?
[02:34:18] <Joan>	 You're appending the string like a parameter?
[02:34:22] <TimStarling>	 Sid-G: I always like people to improve things, but we are heavily relying on interest from the community to port templates over to lua
[02:34:41] <TimStarling>	 so I wouldn't want you to spend any time on the current templates if it was going to reduce your desire to work on lua versions
[02:34:43] <Joan>	 camponez: Well, in any case, make sure the CSS is being loaded into the page. 'cause it's, err, clearly not.
[02:34:49] <Joan>	 Use the source.
[02:35:01] <camponez>	 Joan: ok. just a sec
[02:35:07] <TimStarling>	 maybe we should focus on having a test wiki set up of some kind, which you can use to develop new lua templates on, for later deployment to enwiki
[02:35:10] <Sid-G>	 TimStarling:I hate the current state where I have to manually write down loops. That's the only thing I have to do in the template i'm concerned about.
[02:35:25] <TimStarling>	 you'll be pleased to know that lua has loops in it
[02:35:39] <Joan>	 I think interwiki transclusion is a blocker to new templates.
[02:35:40] <Sid-G>	 TimStarling:very
[02:35:56] <Joan>	 It doesn't make sense to redo everything without centralizing.
[02:35:56] * AaronSchulz  will miss the manual structures can can support several thousand iterations :p

[02:36:04] <camponez>	 Joan: No I see... it has CSS but It got change a lot
[02:36:05] <Sid-G>	 TimStarling:Aren't the deployment sites made for 1.19 up?
[02:36:18] <TimStarling>	 if you're interested in lua, reading the PIL book would be a useful thing to do
[02:36:30] <camponez>	 Joan: can I paste to you look at?
[02:36:32] <TimStarling>	 http://www.lua.org/pil/
[02:36:36] <Sid-G>	 TimStarling: I'm looking at its official doc
[02:36:40] <Joan>	 camponez: Use a pastebin, if possible.
[02:36:44] <Joan>	 http://dpaste.de or whatever.
[02:36:46] * AaronSchulz  was looking at that book

[02:36:52] <camponez>	 Joan: I give you the url :)
[02:36:55] <Sid-G>	 TimStarling:but i'd rather wait till its out
[02:37:19] <Sid-G>	 TimStarling: reading docs months ahead just doesn't seem fun
[02:37:34] <camponez>	 Joan: this works (1.17): cruzeiropedia.org / this doesnt (1.18) wiki.cruzeiropedia.org
[02:37:39] <Sid-G>	 TimStarling: trying to fix things when its all done with seems more like fun :D
[02:38:10] <camponez>	 Joan: see? there is some CSS
[02:39:15] <Joan>	 camponez: Err, why do you have two different domains?
[02:39:38] <camponez>	 Joan: so I can test diferent versions 
[02:39:59] <camponez>	 Joan: diferent databases and diferent directories
[02:40:23] <camponez>	 Joan: I want to make sure the upgrade worked, but... :/
[02:40:28] <Joan>	 http://wiki.cruzeiropedia.org/load.php?debug=false&amp;lang=pt-br&amp;modules=startup&amp;only=scripts&amp;skin=monobook&amp;*
[02:40:37] <Joan>	 It looks like it's rewrite rules-related.
[02:40:57] <Joan>	 Oh.
[02:41:07] <Joan>	 So this is why you don't write into the document root.
[02:41:17] <ToAruShiroiNeko>	 ...
[02:41:17] <Joan>	 When you set up pretty URLs, did you specify certain exemptions?
[02:41:20] <Joan>	 For robots.txt, etc.?
[02:41:39] <Joan>	 http://wiki.cruzeiropedia.org/robots.txt
[02:41:43] <ToAruShiroiNeko>	 how can I convert one date format to what user prefers??
[02:41:52] <camponez>	 Joan: I dont remeber doing that
[02:41:53] <Joan>	 !h Magic_words
[02:41:53] <mw-bot>	 http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Magic_words
[02:42:05] <camponez>	 Joan: did it changed for 1.18?
[02:42:09] <Joan>	 camponez: Do you understand rewrite rules/document root issues?
[02:42:22] <camponez>	 Joan: very little
[02:42:29] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) MediaWiki:Pagesize customization - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35907  normal->15enhancement; +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[02:42:31] <Joan>	 So basically you went to make pretty URLs, right?
[02:42:38] <Joan>	 Removing index.php from the URL?
[02:42:42] <camponez>	 Joan: yes
[02:42:45] <Joan>	 Right.
[02:42:56] <ToAruShiroiNeko>	 Joan which magicword for user preference
[02:42:58] <ToAruShiroiNeko>	 thats the issue
[02:43:03] <Joan>	 ToAruShiroiNeko: Did you read the page?
[02:43:11] <Joan>	 So now when the scripts try to access /load.php (where the CSS comes from in MW 1.18) and think it's an article.
[02:43:14] <Joan>	 camponez: ^
[02:43:19] <Joan>	 So you need to exempt that file from the rewrite rules.
[02:43:22] <Joan>	 Or exempt all files.
[02:43:26] <Joan>	 There are Apache rules for this.
[02:43:30] <Joan>	 If you're running Apache.
[02:43:39] <camponez>	 Joan: I do. 
[02:43:42] <Joan>	 Or you can do it wherever you set up the rewrite rules initially.
[02:43:45] <ToAruShiroiNeko>	 {{#formatdate:}} would work?
[02:43:53] <ToAruShiroiNeko>	 that was simple
[02:43:57] <Joan>	 I now pronounce you husband and husband.
[02:44:08] <camponez>	 Joan: :P
[02:44:34] <Joan>	 ToAruShiroiNeko: Yes, that's what the documentation says.
[02:44:42] <Joan>	 It also has notes about the behavior for anonymous users.
[02:44:44] <Joan>	 Yay.
[02:45:11] <camponez>	 Joan: the CSS path changed in 1.18?
[02:46:13] <camponez>	 Joan: I have this on my .htaccess ->> RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !^/(skins|stylesheets|images|config)/
[02:46:51] <Joan>	 camponez: Right!
[02:46:54] <Joan>	 So add load.php.
[02:47:20] <camponez>	 lets see
[02:47:39] <camponez>	 Joan: _o/
[02:47:56] <Joan>	 http://wiki.cruzeiropedia.org/load.php?debug=false&amp;lang=pt-br&amp;modules=startup&amp;only=scripts&amp;skin=monobook&amp;*
[02:48:00] <Joan>	 Who's Max?
[02:48:00] <ToAruShiroiNeko>	 good call Joan implemented that too
[02:48:08] <ToAruShiroiNeko>	 foundaiton blog will be more pleasant now
[02:48:14] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Undefined $info on SpecialVersion - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35941 trivial; MediaWiki: Special pages; (sam)
[02:48:33] <ToAruShiroiNeko>	 Joan I dont know if this is apropirate but I am also having difficulty with regex.
[02:48:43] <Joan>	 ToAruShiroiNeko: You can ask in here if you want.
[02:48:49] <ToAruShiroiNeko>	 ok
[02:48:50] <Joan>	 Sometimes people take pity and help out.
[02:49:02] <Joan>	 There's also #wikimedia-tech for general technical help.
[02:49:06] <ToAruShiroiNeko>	 its not a mediawiki question so I wasnt sure if it was ok :)
[02:49:09] <Sid-G>	 Joan:That happens most times :D
[02:49:10] <ToAruShiroiNeko>	 let me construct a question
[02:49:23] <Joan>	 As long as it doesn't get in the way of MediaWiki support, nobody cares.
[02:49:32] <Joan>	 Sid-G: That?
[02:49:36] <camponez>	 Joan: it worked. Thanks a lot man! 
[02:49:41] <Joan>	 No problem.
[02:49:55] <Joan>	 camponez: So general rule is to not write into the document root for this reason. ;-)
[02:49:58] <Sid-G>	 Joan:Sometimes people take pity and help out. --> not sometimes, most times :D
[02:50:01] <ToAruShiroiNeko>	 I have a string such as {{Assessments|comy=5|year=2007|com=1|enwiki=1|eswiki=1|trwiki=1|dewiki=1|gawiki=1}} and I want to make it {{Assessments|POTY=5|POTYyear=2007|featured=1|enwiki=1|eswiki=1|trwiki=1|dewiki=1|gawiki=1}}
[02:50:12] <Joan>	 That's why you usually see example.com/view/Foo or example.com/d/Foo or whatever.
[02:50:17] <Joan>	 Or /wiki/ is pretty common.
[02:50:27] <ToAruShiroiNeko>	 as a bonus I want to also sort the xxwiki part
[02:50:51] <Joan>	 Oh, you asked your question.
[02:50:52] * Joan  reads.

[02:51:24] <Joan>	 {{Assessments|comy=5|year=2007|com=1|enwiki=1|eswiki=1|trwiki=1|dewiki=1|gawiki=1}}
[02:51:29] <Joan>	 {{Assessments|POTY=5|POTYyear=2007|featured=1|enwiki=1|eswiki=1|trwiki=1|dewiki=1|gawiki=1}}
[02:51:50] <camponez>	 Joan: cheers ;-)
[02:52:01] <Joan>	 Okay, so you're removing three parameters and adding three?
[02:52:08] <ToAruShiroiNeko>	 in essence yes
[02:52:17] <Joan>	 But parameter order isn't fixed.
[02:52:36] <ToAruShiroiNeko>	 people find all sorts of new ways to pass parameters
[02:52:36] <Joan>	 And parameters aren't guaranteed.
[02:52:41] <Joan>	 Right...
[02:52:44] <Joan>	 you want to parse templates?
[02:52:50] <ToAruShiroiNeko>	 yes
[02:52:54] <Joan>	 Heh.
[02:52:58] <Joan>	 That's not really a "regex question."
[02:53:07] <Joan>	 That's a "I need to parse template parameters" question.
[02:53:09] <ToAruShiroiNeko>	 Ideally I want to do this with AWB which can use regex
[02:53:23] <ToAruShiroiNeko>	 sorry if I wasnt clear
[02:53:35] <Joan>	 Well, if you know the list of parameters up front, it shouldn't be too awful.
[02:53:41] <Joan>	 I don't think AWB is flexible enough.
[02:53:42] <Dantman>	 gah...
[02:53:51] <Joan>	 You'd need to do it in a programming language.
[02:54:00] <Dantman>	 Joan... you could have pointed him to the new docs
[02:54:03] <Joan>	 Minus unnamed parameters.
[02:54:08] <Joan>	 Dantman: Point me to them first.
[02:54:18] <Joan>	 Were they announced somewhere?
[02:54:30] <ToAruShiroiNeko>	 Joan all I need is a regex for year probably
[02:54:42] <ToAruShiroiNeko>	 |year= is used in many places
[02:54:49] <Dantman>	 Joan: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL/Apache
[02:54:49] <Joan>	 Well,
[02:54:56] <Joan>	 \|year=(\d+)
[02:54:59] <Joan>	 Or osmething.
[02:55:02] <Joan>	 somethign
[02:55:05] <Joan>	 I give up.
[02:55:22] <ToAruShiroiNeko>	 Assessments\|year=(\d+)}} maybe?
[02:55:23] <Joan>	 That image confused me.
[02:55:33] <Joan>	 I clicked the down arrow expecting to be able to pick my URL structure.
[02:55:37] <Joan>	 That's apparently not a drop-down.
[02:55:39] <Joan>	 Just an image...
[02:55:49] <Dantman>	 lol
[02:55:56] <Amgine>	 ++
[02:56:37] <Joan>	 I added a caption.
[02:56:48] <Ryan_Lane>	 Joan: I did submit a bug
[02:56:56] <Ryan_Lane>	 last week or the week before
[02:56:59] <Joan>	 Ryan_Lane: Oh, nice. :-)
[02:57:06] <Joan>	 I'd looked when discussed it.
[02:57:08] <Joan>	 But hadn't seen one.
[02:57:22] <Betacommand>	 any reason Im only getting 60kb/s download speed for the enwiki dump?
[02:57:34] <Joan>	 Searching for "html table" was a mess.
[02:58:00] <Joan>	 Betacommand: Your connection sucks? You've been rate-limited for multiple concurrent connections? There's a bad hop somewhere?
[02:58:06] <Joan>	 You don't really want this channel, though.
[02:58:10] <Joan>	 You want #wikimedia-tech.
[02:58:23] <Betacommand>	 Joan: I pinged there with no response
[02:58:50] <Amgine>	 rate-limited *and* /iggy?
[02:59:37] <Betacommand>	 Amgine: I doubt it is on my end
[03:00:26] <Joan>	 Betacommand: You're downloading the dump to your local machine? Not to a server?
[03:00:40] <Betacommand>	 Joan: yes
[03:01:12] <Betacommand>	 Joan: Im getting 1.2MB/s with another site
[03:04:41] <Joan>	 chuck: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35745
[03:06:13] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) HTMLForm multiselect shoudln't use HTML tables - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35745  summary; +comment (10MZMcBride)
[03:06:25] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) HTMLForm multiselect shouldn't use HTML tables - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35745  summary (10MZMcBride)
[03:06:26] * Joan  curses.

[03:07:34] <chuck>	 Joan, oh nice!
[03:09:32] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Reedy; "Fixup/finish off function parameter documentation" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4837
[03:10:51] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4837
[03:12:04] <Joan>	 Dantman: My caption was better.
[03:25:39] <Joan>	 > The Apache config you need to add consists of a single line. An example is:
[03:25:41] <Joan>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL/Apache
[03:25:46] <Joan>	 Does that look weird to anyone else?
[03:25:57] <Joan>	 For me, the dotted pre box is completely above the line.
[03:30:04] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Ryan Lane; "Adding support for split projects and groups" [mediawiki/extensions/OpenStackManager] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4838
[03:54:04] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) #time parserfunction parses dates in the PHP default timezone before converting to UTC - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/17080  +comment (10Aaron Schulz)
[03:55:33] <Aaron|home>	 hell yeah!
[03:55:42] <Aaron|home>	 first time I head loud thunder in SF
[03:55:56] * Aaron|home  hears the car alarm go off

[03:56:24] <Aaron|home>	 TimStarling: this Lua stuff is kind of cool :)
[03:58:39] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Proofread Page extension setup in Bengali Wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35629  +comment (10Tanvir Rahman)
[04:04:49] <werdna>	  
[04:06:44] <Joan>	  
[04:12:28] <liangent>	  
[04:14:30] <Aaron|home>	 CZ won't let me make whitespace messages :/
[04:14:54] <Joan>	 Racist.
[04:21:01] <wikibugs>	 04(REOPENED) Enable Special:Import for administrator in Bengali Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34791  +comment (10Jayanta Nath)
[04:35:39] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Enable Special:Import for administrator in Bengali Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34791  +comment (10Jayanta Nath)
[04:42:42] <Skizzerz>	 what's the process for migrating extensions over to git?
[04:43:09] <Joan>	 There's a page on mediawiki.org somewhere.
[04:44:03] <Joan>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Conversion/Extensions_queue
[04:48:04] <Skizzerz>	 cool, thanks
[04:48:16] <codurr>	 03skizzerz * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114878> 10/trunk/extensions/Maintenance/ (Maintenance.i18n.php Maintenance.php Maintenance_body.php):
[04:48:16] <codurr>	 * Catch bad metadata.ini files earlier so we don't have PHP giving us E_WARNINGS and stuff (version bumped to 2.1.1)
[04:48:16] <codurr>	 * Start on some message documentation, more forthcoming when I have some free time
[04:48:17] * Skizzerz  goes off to double that list

[04:48:40] <Joan>	 No problem.
[05:25:26] <badon>	 Does anyone know of a straightforward way of putting JS and CSS in the <head> of pages that use the requested JS and CSS? I could put it in all pages, but that would be inefficient if it doesn't get used.
[05:25:37] <badon>	 Is there an extension or something for that?
[05:27:28] <liangent>	 badon: it won't be so inefficient because js and css are cached
[05:27:49] <badon>	 OK, so maybe I just shouldn't worry about it?
[05:38:01] <nischayn22>	 which extension makes the tag <source>, couldn't find it on searching
[05:39:35] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Santhosh; "Avoid sending mails to users with digest option, and use JobQueue to send emails" [mediawiki/extensions/TranslationNotifications] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4839
[05:39:36] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Santhosh; "Add Email Digest feature." [mediawiki/extensions/TranslationNotifications] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4840
[05:44:38] <badon>	 nischayn22: I'll find it for you, one moment.
[05:44:54] <Will-k>	 I'm aspiring to become a MediaWiki developer, where should I start?
[05:46:11] <badon>	 nischayn22: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SyntaxHighlighter http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SyntaxHighlight_GeSHi
[05:46:25] <badon>	 Will-k: It depends on what exactly you want to work on.
[05:46:35] <badon>	 I suppose a lot of people start with extensions.
[05:46:36] <Amgine>	 !hacker
[05:46:37] <mw-bot>	 http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_become_a_MediaWiki_hacker
[05:46:43] <Amgine>	 Will-K
[05:47:02] <Will-k>	 Nice to see you Amgine :)
[05:47:19] <Amgine>	 <waves, points at mw-bot's link>
[05:47:51] <Will-k>	 Oh! Silly me, that was you with the "!hacker"
[05:47:57] <Will-k>	 And thanks :)
[05:48:02] <Amgine>	 yw
[05:52:40] <nischayn22>	 Will-k: Hi, I started about a month back, feel free to ping me if you have some questions :)
[05:52:52] <nischayn22>	 badon: thanks a lot
[05:52:55] <Will-k>	 Sure. :)
[05:53:03] <Will-k>	 nischayn22: How's it going for you?
[05:53:08] <badon>	 nischayn22: no problem
[05:53:59] <nischayn22>	 Will-k: wonderful experience, right now I am making an extension that lets you copy text directly into clipboard on the click of a button
[05:54:22] <Will-k>	 Is that not somewhat JavaScript?
[05:54:56] <nischayn22>	 Will-k: can be in JS too but I am using an already built feature with flash
[05:55:18] <Amgine>	 Mmm, Will-k: if you want a project, I want a donate button which uses Stripe, needed for a small wiki farm.
[05:55:45] <Amgine>	 Should be a quick extension to get your feet wet.
[05:55:55] <Will-k>	 Sounds like a project ;)
[05:55:56] <Will-k>	 *Google*
[05:55:57] <Will-k>	 Amgine: I'll PM you if I find any interest.
[05:56:00] <Amgine>	 <wanders off to bed.>
[05:56:15] <nischayn22>	 https://github.com/mojombo/clippy is the feature :)
[06:12:05] <nischayn22>	 can we put dependencies in parser extensions? for example my extension should take input from the output of the SyntaxHighlighter extension
[06:15:17] <wikibugs>	 03(FIXED) Content disappears on certain toggles (white flash) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35837  +comment (10Yuvi Panda)
[06:17:42] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Localize "Author" namespace name in Chinese - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35714  +comment (10Hat600)
[06:22:49] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Localize "Author" namespace name in Chinese - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35714  +comment (10Liangent)
[06:46:27] <codurr>	 New code comment: Siebrand; +This message is currently not used in this extension.', \ Please remove all unused messages. They ar; <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114878#c32666>
[06:55:32] <chughakshay16>	 Hi, freakolowsky 
[06:55:46] <freakolowsky>	 hey
[06:55:51] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Liangent; "Search term shouldn't be transformed (with ->text()) in searchresults-title." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4841
[06:56:05] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Santhosh; "Add Email Digest feature." [mediawiki/extensions/TranslationNotifications] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4840
[06:56:20] <chughakshay16>	 freakolowsky: good morning to u .. :)
[06:56:57] <freakolowsky>	 yeah ... good morning ... tell that to the s.o. that crashed the database i'm trying to fix right now :D
[06:57:08] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4841
[06:58:08] <chughakshay16>	 freakolowsky: yeah something or the other is crashing all the time.. :)
[06:58:19] <YuviPanda>	 freakolowsky: i hope you're missing a 'b' after the 's.o'. Sigificant others who crash databases can be fun :D
[06:58:20] <chughakshay16>	 freakolowsky: but in my case its mostly js..
[06:59:08] <freakolowsky>	 YuviPanda: what i ment was asshole
[06:59:30] <YuviPanda>	 freakolowsky: ah, I was looking for 'son of a bitch', but I'm guessing that might be sexist and shifting the blame
[07:01:43] <chughakshay16>	 freakolowsky: wont disturb u while u r fixing it.. will get back to u later.. :|
[07:02:51] <freakolowsky>	 and then because "it's friday the 13th" [insert a horror movie sound-bite here] ... don't know why but ppl get afraid to tell that they did something funky .... and they wait around because "maybe it will just go away" and then when everything is totally borked ... they contact me .... go freakin figure
[07:03:19] <freakolowsky>	 chughakshay16: go ahead and ask ... i have time ... waiting for a recovery to go trough
[07:05:11] <chughakshay16>	 freakolowsky: as i only have experience working with mysql.. so wanted to know if I would have to write a sql script for every type of database present in mediawiki..
[07:05:27] <chughakshay16>	 freakolowsky: i mean the database options that come along with mediawiki..
[07:06:32] <freakolowsky>	 yep
[07:07:12] <freakolowsky>	 but as you'll only be making one simple table (transactions) in this first go, i don't think you'll have issues
[07:07:21] <freakolowsky>	 i can help you with the sql stuff
[07:07:30] <freakolowsky>	 brb 2min
[07:07:30] <chughakshay16>	 freakolowsky: okay :)
[07:11:43] <chughakshay16>	 freakolowsky: is it advisable to store cache data in a database..?
[07:12:58] <chughakshay16>	 freakolowsky: because i m looking to maintain the state of a user .. during a 4step ajax form.. 
[07:13:13] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Hashar; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4837
[07:13:16] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Hashar; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4837
[07:13:20] <chughakshay16>	 freakolowsky: or I could just store them in a session object..
[07:15:14] <freakolowsky>	 well you could just use the caching system and let mw decide where and how to store it
[07:16:31] <chughakshay16>	 freakolowsky: so for how long does the caching object live in mw ?
[07:17:12] <freakolowsky>	 uff ... that i'd have to lookup
[07:18:13] <chughakshay16>	 freakolowsky: i will do that.. :)
[07:18:24] <chughakshay16>	 freakolowsky: going for lunch..
[07:26:44] <wikibugs>	 14(DUP) Redlink "page does not exist" is in language of user who posted comment, instead of user who views it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28802  +comment (10Niklas Laxström)
[07:26:45] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) "Page does not exist" title cached in wrong language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32686  +comment (10Niklas Laxström)
[07:27:14] <wikibugs>	 14(DUP) Wrong language in redlink tooltip - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35921  +comment (10Niklas Laxström)
[07:27:16] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) "Page does not exist" title cached in wrong language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32686  +comment (10Niklas Laxström)
[07:28:41] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Hashar; "Why do we want to do that? Does it fix a bug, offer a new functionality?  You might want to explain ..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4841
[07:29:19] <wikibugs>	 14(INVALID) formatnum simply converts the text from one locale to another - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35922  +comment (10Niklas Laxström)
[07:36:49] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Nikerabbit; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4812
[07:36:52] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Nikerabbit; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4812
[07:43:40] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Kaldari; "better SVG icon, adding it to CSS with a PNG fallback for IE < 9" [mediawiki/extensions/WikiLove] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4842
[07:46:38] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) test to compare En Qqq and messages.inc - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35942 normal; MediaWiki: Unit tests; (hashar)
[07:48:34] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Jenkins should send a nice review when messages are missing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35943 normal; Wikimedia: Testing Infrastructure; (hashar)
[07:48:42] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Jenkins should send a nice review when messages are missing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35943  (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[07:48:43] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) test to compare En Qqq and messages.inc - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35942  (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[07:49:42] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) test to compare En Qqq and messages.inc - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35942  normal->minor;  +easy (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[07:49:43] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Jenkins should send a nice review when messages are missing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35943  (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[07:50:04] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) test to compare En Qqq and messages.inc - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35942  (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[07:50:04] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Jenkins should send a nice review when messages are missing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35943  (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[07:58:36] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Kaldari; "reducing SVG file to 4K with same rendering" [mediawiki/extensions/WikiLove] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4843
[07:59:47] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) App should have larger font size settings - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35944 normal; Wikipedia App: Generic; (tfinc)
[08:02:01] <wikibugs>	 14(DUP) "An option to change background colour would be great, to let people choose a contrast that is easier on the eye" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35766  +comment (10Tomasz Finc)
[08:02:01] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Add a 'Night Mode' to the Wikipedia Mobile app - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35251  +comment (10Tomasz Finc)
[08:05:06] <wikibugs>	 04(REOPENED) formatnum simply converts the text from one locale to another - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35922  +comment (10Strainu)
[08:08:29] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) MF should handle wide tables more elegantly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35945 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend; (tfinc)
[08:08:51] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) formatnum simply converts the text from one locale to another - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35922  +comment (10Strainu)
[08:12:45] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) WikiLove tab "heart" icon is low-resolution - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35334  +comment (10Ryan Kaldari)
[08:12:53] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) test to compare En Qqq and messages.inc - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35942  +comment (10Niklas Laxström)
[08:13:06] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) formatnum simply converts the text from one locale to another - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35922  +comment (10Nemo_bis)
[08:13:08] <wikibugs>	 14(INVALID) formatnum simply converts the text from one locale to another - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35922  (10Nemo_bis)
[08:15:24] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Red .diffchange text in the green 'added' area may be hard to read for color blinded users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/11374  +comment (10Nemo_bis)
[08:17:42] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) formatnum is not able to deformat numbers in all the locales it accepts (formats it produces) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35922  summary (10Nemo_bis)
[08:19:56] <wikibugs>	 04(REOPENED) formatnum is not able to deformat numbers in all the locales it accepts (formats it produces) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35922  +comment (10Strainu)
[08:22:54] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) extremely poor performance with vertical files - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22559  04CRIT->15enhancement; +comment (10Nemo_bis)
[08:27:25] <Dee>	 hi all
[08:28:20] <Dee>	 I;ve just tried to do an upgrade of mediawiki that's failed with a blank page with my old local settings so I tried setting up from scratch and it's reporting "LocalSettings.php not found."
[08:28:44] <Dee>	 it gives a link to "set up the wiki first" which does the same thing
[08:29:02] <Dee>	 can anyone think what I;m missing?
[08:35:22] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: IAlex; "Removed subclassing of PageQueryPage where not needed." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4846
[08:35:56] <Saruman>	 Dee: both things point to the same prob: the LocalSettings.php from your "old" wiki is not readable in the "new" wiki's folder
[08:36:13] <Saruman>	 if it's not there, copy it there. If it is, check the permissions
[08:36:39] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4846
[08:41:24] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Siebrand; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master); V: 0 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4811
[08:44:12] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Diffview system - whitespace not properly indicated - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/21351  +comment (10Nemo_bis)
[08:45:43] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Diffview system - whitespace not properly indicated - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/21351  +comment (10Nemo_bis)
[08:46:11] <wikibugs>	 03(FIXED) Diffview system - whitespace not properly indicated - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/21351  (10Nemo_bis)
[08:53:38] <Dee>	 Saruman: it's not there as it's now a default install (which doesn't include one)
[08:54:22] <Dee>	 none of theinstall docs mention having to create a blank one, and doing so actually generates an error
[08:54:47] <Saruman>	 a default install is not an upgrade
[08:54:53] <Dee>	 I know
[08:55:07] <Dee>	 I scrapped doing an upgrade to avoid complications
[08:55:21] <Dee>	 this is a fresh extraction of the 1.18.2 package
[08:55:51] <Saruman>	 ok then you follow the fresh install instructions
[08:55:57] <Dee>	 I am and...
[08:56:15] <Dee>	  it's reporting "LocalSettings.php not found."
[08:56:18] <Dee>	 < Dee> it gives a link to "set up the wiki first" which does the same thing
[08:56:48] <Saruman>	 that's not normal
[08:57:10] <Dee>	 I know, hence asking if anyone knows what I could be doing wrong :)
[08:57:46] <Saruman>	 after unpacking the 1.18.2 files, what did you change in your webserver setup?
[08:58:16] <Dee>	 nothing, I have the empty folder from my old installation (backed up)
[08:58:44] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) formatnum is not able to deformat numbers in all the locales it accepts (formats it produces) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35922  +comment (10Niklas Laxström)
[08:58:44] <Dee>	 extracted the tgz package, copied all files from there to the empty wiki folder, then chowned them to me
[08:58:45] <Saruman>	 you mean you unpacked the 1.18.2 files in the old MW folder?
[08:58:55] <Dee>	 after emptying it, yes
[08:59:01] <Saruman>	 can the webserver read your files?
[08:59:07] <Dee>	 yes
[08:59:09] <Saruman>	 and have you chowned with -R
[08:59:25] <Dee>	 I get a MW page
[08:59:27] <Dee>	 and yes
[08:59:35] <Saruman>	 then I have no more ideas
[08:59:40] <Dee>	 thank you
[08:59:42] <wikibugs>	 14(DUP) Ignore leading or trailing whitespaces when match lines - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/23704  +comment (10Nemo_bis)
[08:59:42] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Enhance line matching in diffs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/13462  +comment (10Nemo_bis)
[08:59:56] <Saruman>	 yw
[09:07:28] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Enhance line matching in diffs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/13462  (10Nemo_bis)
[09:07:33] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Design of diffs should be improved to indicate white space changes better - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/13466  (10Nemo_bis)
[09:08:31] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) formatnum is not able to deformat numbers in all the locales it accepts (formats it produces) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35922  +comment (10Strainu)
[09:08:48] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: GWicke; "Convert external link syntax stops to stack" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4847
[09:19:33] <davidpardz>	 hi there, does anyone know how can I emulate storing temproray files? I just installed mediawiki in localhost and I want to run uploadwizard but I get an error on storing temporary files 
[09:19:45] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) MobileFrontend should not use Makefile to make minified javascript - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35910  summary; +comment (10Jon)
[09:27:41] <potter>	 davidpardz: try changing the owner of the directory in which MW "resides" 
[09:29:27] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) formatnum can deformat numbers only if they're in English format - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35922  summary; +comment (10Nemo_bis)
[09:32:04] <Dee>	 Saruman: I found my problem, I had the rewrite rules specified in my apache conf which just clobbered the install scripts
[09:32:04] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) formatnum can deformat numbers only if they're in English format - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35922  +comment (10Strainu)
[09:35:30] <davidpardz>	 thank you I resolved it with potter's help :)
[09:40:14] <codurr>	 03petrb * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114879> 10/trunk/extensions/Drafts/ (Drafts.hooks.php Drafts.i18n.php Drafts.php): new option to disable feature by user
[09:42:10] <Saruman>	 Dee: good to hear it's solved now
[09:52:40] <liangent>	 hashar: around?
[09:53:19] <hashar>	 somehow yes
[09:53:24] <hashar>	 liangent: how can I help?
[09:54:15] <liangent>	 for your comment, https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4841 , what should I say if I'm fixing a bug not in bugzilla?
[09:54:22] <liangent>	 someone reported it to me via IM
[09:54:51] <hashar>	 ohh that one
[09:55:00] <hashar>	 I find the commit message to be unclear
[09:55:05] <hashar>	 what is the issue being fixed there?
[09:55:45] <hashar>	 The message you wrote describe the change you made but does not really describe why you are doing it
[09:55:51] <hashar>	 nor what is the result.  
[09:55:54] <liangent>	 if you search for , eg "{{SITENAME}}", the text is transformed in <title>
[09:56:06] <hashar>	 \o/
[09:56:16] <liangent>	 see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search={{SITENAME}}&sourceid=Mozilla-search
[09:56:37] <hashar>	 indeed
[09:58:16] <liangent>	 so what summary line do you suggest
[09:59:03] <hashar>	 lets write one in http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/gerrit-4841 :-] 
[09:59:22] <hashar>	 the aim would be to describe the issue, 
[10:01:12] <hashar>	 maybe:  stop expanding search term Special:Search <title>
[10:01:28] <liangent>	 I guess I can created a bug and mark it as fixed immediately then refer to the bug in summary
[10:01:40] <hashar>	 a bug number is not really needed
[10:01:44] <hashar>	 but a clean summary will help
[10:01:54] <hashar>	 ex:  stop expanding search term in <title>
[10:03:18] <liangent>	 hmm it's so long and more difficult to compose than fixing the bug itself
[10:03:36] <hashar>	 totally :-D
[10:04:07] <hashar>	 but that also makes reviewing easier
[10:04:31] <hashar>	 and later debugging easier too. Cause this way we will know what was the test case.
[10:06:48] <liangent>	 should I append a dot to the first line?
[10:07:35] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Nikerabbit; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/TranslationNotifications] (master); V: 0 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4839
[10:07:42] <hashar>	 not sure we want to be that strict :D
[10:08:01] <liangent>	 then which is preferred?
[10:08:14] <hashar>	 I think you can skip the dot
[10:08:40] <hashar>	 I am not going to enforce either anyway
[10:08:50] <hashar>	 do you have git-review ?
[10:09:21] <liangent>	 hashar: yes
[10:09:48] <hashar>	 so go ahead and amend 4841 git message with  git-review -d 4841; <edit>; git-review -f   
[10:09:49] <hashar>	 :-D
[10:09:55] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Liangent; "Stop expanding search term in <title> of the search results page" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4841
[10:09:57] <hashar>	 I am going to write a test case for that
[10:10:00] <hashar>	 yeah that 
[10:10:01] <hashar>	 \o/
[10:11:12] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4841
[10:11:43] <hashar>	 liangent: now we have a nice message when using:    git shortlog -n1 8c33580
[10:13:05] <liangent>	 by the way what's "git-review -d 4841; <edit>; git-review -f"
[10:13:18] <liangent>	 I didn't understand the explaination of -f: "Close down the local branch and switch back to the target branch on successful submission."
[10:13:44] <hashar>	 git-review -d 4841  # that download change set 4841 and create a local branch named review/<AUTHOR>/<TOPIC>
[10:14:01] <hashar>	 git-review -f  # submit the change and delete that local branch upon completion
[10:14:15] <hashar>	 that is a good wait to keep the local branch list to a minimum
[10:15:02] <liangent>	 what's "the target branch" to switch back?
[10:16:17] <hashar>	 I have no idea
[10:19:26] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Szymon ?wierkosz; "(bug 35757) Add 'onlysection' parameter to <pages/>." [mediawiki/extensions/ProofreadPage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4849
[10:19:31] <codurr>	 03tstarling * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114880> 10/trunk/php/luasandbox/ (library.c luasandbox.c):
[10:19:31] <codurr>	 * Implemented a safe version of setfenv()
[10:19:31] <codurr>	 * Allow registerLibrary() to work even if the global already exists. Just merge the libraries. This allows us to have an mw table with some PHP code and some Lua code.
[10:19:31] <codurr>	 * Made luasandbox_instanceof() non-inline
[10:19:32] <codurr>	 * Removed getfenv(), can break module isolation
[10:21:42] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Not possible to transclude to single paragraph over multiple instances of <pages /> - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35757  +comment (10Beau)
[10:21:53] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Red .diffchange text in the green 'added' area may be hard to read for color-blind users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/11374  summary (10S. McCandlish)
[10:23:06] <liangent>	 is there of a preview of lua in wiki?
[10:26:53] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Santhosh; "Avoid sending mails to users with digest option, and use JobQueue to send emails" [mediawiki/extensions/TranslationNotifications] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4839
[10:28:03] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Santhosh; "Removed the unwanted 'and' operator" [mediawiki/extensions/TranslationNotifications] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4839
[10:35:29] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Nikerabbit; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/TranslationNotifications] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4839
[10:35:32] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Nikerabbit; [mediawiki/extensions/TranslationNotifications] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4839
[10:44:54] <ed8>	 hi I'm trying to use Pywikipedia 'python pagefromfile.py' but I got this error : RuntimeError: API query error: {u'servedby': u'borneo', u'error': {u'info': u'You need read permission to use this module', u'code': u'readapidenied'}}
[10:46:21] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Nikerabbit; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/TranslationNotifications] (master); V: 0 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4840
[10:48:38] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Hashar; "MockOutputPage class in its own file" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4851
[10:49:55] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4851
[10:50:45] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Tim Starling; "Introduced standalone interpreter, implemented module isolation" [mediawiki/extensions/Scribunto] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4852
[10:51:44] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Search button is not visible with images disabled on Samsung Jet. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30829  +comment (10Jon)
[10:52:31] <TimStarling>	 liangent: not that I know of
[11:02:25] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: GWicke; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4847
[11:02:27] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: GWicke; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4847
[11:05:25] <wikibugs>	 03(FIXED) Beta Image detail nav box has uses white and gray making it unreadable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35937  +comment (10Jon)
[11:05:51] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: IAlex; "Removed usage of global objects in SpecialEmailUser" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4855
[11:05:52] <chughakshay16>	 freakolowsky: hi again,
[11:06:00] <chughakshay16>	 freakolowsky: doubt !!
[11:07:08] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4855
[11:09:20] <codurr>	 03petrb * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114881> 10/trunk/extensions/Drafts/ (Drafts.hooks.php Drafts.php): inserted default value for options
[11:11:03] <codurr>	 03petrb * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114882> 10/trunk/extensions/Drafts/Drafts.hooks.php: r114881 fix of typo
[11:16:03] <codurr>	 03petrb * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114883> 10/trunk/extensions/Drafts/Drafts.hooks.php: check if enabled even in the other hook so that button isn't displayed in case user decide to opt out
[11:19:06] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Not possible to transclude to single paragraph over multiple instances of <pages /> - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35757  +comment (10Doug)
[11:20:00] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Hashar; "Stop expanding search term in <title> of the search results page" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4841
[11:20:22] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) MobileFrontend should load sections dynamically as much as possible to avoid downloading never-viewed text and images - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31011  normal->15enhancement (10Jon)
[11:21:17] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4841
[11:24:02] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Hashar; "Stop expanding search term in <title> of the search results page" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4841
[11:25:07] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Hashar; "Patchset 3 is rebased on an unneeded parent. So you can safely ignore it." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4841
[11:25:20] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4841
[11:25:23] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Not possible to transclude to single paragraph over multiple instances of <pages /> - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35757  +comment (10Beau)
[11:26:02] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Hashar; "Patchset 4 add a basic test case. It has the same parent as patchset 2 for easier comparison." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4841
[11:26:09] <hashar>	 liangent: I have added a test case for 4841
[11:26:12] <hashar>	 liangent: patchset 4
[11:29:02] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Hashar; "Looks fine to me but I would prefer Niklas to give the final call :)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4841
[11:54:14] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "duration formatter, makes time in sec easy to read" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4629
[11:55:21] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Nikerabbit; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4841
[11:55:31] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4629
[11:57:11] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Nikerabbit; "> The problem is, that this unit tests need a db to be run." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4507
[12:03:22] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4629
[12:03:28] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4629
[12:05:54] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Nikerabbit; "Not sure how useful that class as is it is now." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4851
[12:08:10] <JeroenDeDauw>	 Is there a way to get an overview of all commits made to a repo?
[12:08:10] <JeroenDeDauw>	 This is nice, but only works for one branch: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?p=mediawiki/core.git;a=shortlog
[12:08:10] <JeroenDeDauw>	 (I want ALL OF THE branches)
[12:08:50] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Edit-tab/link is confusing on translation pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35946 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Translate; (niklas.laxstrom)
[12:09:05] <Nikerabbit>	 JeroenDeDauw: doesn't it include everything?
[12:09:43] <JeroenDeDauw>	 Nikerabbit: nope, only master
[12:10:04] <JeroenDeDauw>	 Nikerabbit: if you have changes on some other branch that you did not mrge, you won't see them here
[12:13:42] <Nikerabbit>	 okay
[12:21:11] <jeblad>	 boink
[12:21:35] <jeblad>	 JeroenDeDauw: Now I'm here.. ;)
[12:22:28] <JeroenDeDauw>	 jeblad: commits to master can be seen here: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?p=mediawiki/extensions/WikidataRepo.git;a=shortlog
[12:22:42] <jeblad>	 okidoki
[12:22:44] <JeroenDeDauw>	 jeblad: and you can also do "git diff" between two revisions ofc
[12:22:57] <JeroenDeDauw>	 jeblad: and you might want to join #wikimedia-wikidata :p
[12:23:52] <jeblad>	 drops out all the time.. o_o
[12:25:39] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) MediaWiki:Pagesize customization - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35907  +comment (10ShoeMaker)
[12:28:47] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Is there a way to get the post-expand {{PAGESIZE:page name}}? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35908  +comment (10ShoeMaker)
[12:37:15] <gerrit-wm>	 Change abandoned: Santhosh; "Rewriting the script using Maintainance class" [mediawiki/extensions/TranslationNotifications] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4840
[12:44:37] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Santhosh; "Add Email Digest feature." [mediawiki/extensions/TranslationNotifications] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4862
[12:51:20] <nischayn22>	 JeroenDeDauw: hey, I read that you were working on an extension management platform. is that complete?
[12:52:40] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: GWicke; "Drastically reduce memory usage for template-heavy pages" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4863
[12:52:41] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: GWicke; "Increase number of callbacks per reactor iteration to 4" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4864
[12:54:18] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: GWicke; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4863
[12:54:20] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: GWicke; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4863
[12:59:33] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: GWicke; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4864
[12:59:36] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: GWicke; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4864
[13:01:52] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Integrate git/Gerrit and Bugzilla - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/17322  +comment (10Tim Landscheidt)
[13:10:06] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) MediaWiki 1.16.5 does not produce valid XHTML - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29349  (10hods9000-289)
[13:10:21] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) MediaWiki 1.16.5 does not produce valid XHTML - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29349  (10hods9000-289)
[13:13:45] <JeroenDeDauw>	 nischayn22: no, I'm not. I did a GSoC project in 2010 for that, but it was not really successful (the task was way to big)
[13:15:22] <^demon>	 JeroenDeDauw: And it was attempted last summer again, but it failed for other reasons :\
[13:20:03] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) #time parserfunction parses dates in the PHP default timezone before converting to UTC - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/17080  +comment (10Brad Jorsch)
[13:20:49] <freakolowsky>	 oh JeroenDeDauw iz in tha houz ... got a question for you ... last year i looked at SMW code and it was still full of harcoded sql queries ... i got asked the other day ... well about a month ago by a client if i could make it support oracle ... and i was wondering what's the state of SMW code at the moment (are those hc sqls still all around the place)?
[13:21:11] <nischayn22>	 JeroenDeDauw: when I was thinking of a Gsoc proposal I also thought about such a platform, but than saw you have already worked on it.
[13:22:01] <nischayn22>	 Also an Extension Rating thing is required
[13:22:42] <nischayn22>	 freakolowsky: I think the answer to that is yes
[13:25:03] <potter>	 varnent: hi
[13:27:55] <freakolowsky>	 nischayn22: so i'm guessing this won't be that trivial ...
[13:27:59] <jeblad>	 JeroenDeDauw:  to big task? newer heard of it
[13:30:13] <nischayn22>	 freakolowsky: I have made a GSOC proposal for SMW this year. If selected I will be working on some aspects of sql queries
[13:31:34] <freakolowsky>	 yes i saw it ... a day after i told somone else that i would mentor him :S
[13:34:02] <nischayn22>	 freakolowsky: who "him"?
[13:34:52] <potter>	 nischayn22: chughakshay16 
[13:34:59] <freakolowsky>	 ^^
[13:35:29] <nischayn22>	 Oh!
[13:37:13] <potter>	 !seen ialex
[13:37:30] <potter>	 ok
[13:37:32] <nischayn22>	 potter: that doesn't work these days :P
[13:37:43] <potter>	 nischayn22: it works!
[13:37:58] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Cookie and Cache conflict resulting in wrong langauge being displayed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35926  +comment (10Niklas Laxström)
[13:38:05] <nischayn22>	 potter: Oh did it PM you then?
[13:38:14] <potter>	 nischayn22: yes
[13:38:21] <freakolowsky>	 nischayn22: but if you get into that project and will need any assistance ... i'll have time from may till end of june
[13:38:55] <potter>	 nischayn22: and it gave me a reasonable answer also
[13:39:10] <nischayn22>	 freakolowsky: So kind of you, thanks
[13:39:48] <nischayn22>	 freakolowsky: that makes three people I can take help from :))
[13:40:19] <nischayn22>	 potter: really? did unilinky use some AI :D
[13:40:40] <potter>	 nischayn22: no it used magic :P
[13:42:15] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Customizable summary of page editors/authors - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27629  summary; +comment (10Strainu)
[13:42:32] <nischayn22>	 freakolowsky: In general which parts of SMW are you concerned with? sql queries or even other stuff?
[13:43:09] <potter>	 nischayn22: oracle support
[13:44:00] <nischayn22>	 potter: yes, that comes in sql queries, but I am also looking at other issues like caching
[13:44:22] <potter>	 nischayn22: oh :)
[13:45:37] * nischayn22  looks for Oracle issues in SMW he can handle this summer

[13:48:57] <Nikerabbit>	 hashar: I don't think it was a good idea to disable the automatic rebasing
[13:49:15] <hashar>	 Nikerabbit: please raise the subject on wikitech-l :D
[13:49:17] <Nikerabbit>	 or something is broken with the new git review
[13:49:37] <Nikerabbit>	 hashar: because right now it wants to commit EVERYTHING from the current branch, even if it came from git pull
[13:50:20] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Enable ip v. 6 on labs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35947 normal; Wikimedia Labs: Setup; (benapetr)
[13:50:46] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Enable ip v. 6 on labs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35947  normal->15enhancement (10Peter Bena)
[13:51:15] <freakolowsky>	 nischayn22: mostly just sql queries ... i don't use smw (never have)
[13:51:16] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Nikerabbit; "Fix typo" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4875
[13:51:30] <hashar>	 Nikerabbit: Everything? What do you mean ?
[13:51:33] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Enable ip v. 6 on labs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35947  +comment (10Peter Bena)
[13:52:10] <freakolowsky>	 ... now let's get back to doing a thing oracle will probably buy me a dring after i'm finished ... the drink being a Molotov Cocktail :D
[13:52:58] <Nikerabbit>	 hashar: http://pastebin.com/36tBpTj3
[13:55:32] <hashar>	 Nikerabbit: try again by using git-review verbose mode
[13:55:37] <hashar>	 aka git-review -v
[13:55:52] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Proofread Page extension setup in Bengali Wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35629  +comment (10Belayet Hossain)
[13:55:54] <hashar>	 that will give you the full  git log command which was used to determinate the commit to submit
[13:56:21] <hashar>	 something like:  git log  --decorate --oneline master --not remotes/gerrit/master
[13:56:30] <^demon>	 Nikerabbit: For what it's worth, I  hit that same thing yesterday. Worked around it, never found a real answer.
[13:57:03] <hashar>	 Nikerabbit: so I guess your issue is that origin was fetched by git-review does the difference against the repo named 'gerrit'
[13:57:15] <hashar>	 which need to be updated
[13:57:27] <hashar>	 and your local master branch might just be tracking gerrit/master
[13:57:37] <Nikerabbit>	 http://pastebin.com/3nnXUhgY with verbose mode
[13:57:45] <^demon>	 Why is git-review using origin? It's supposed to use gerrit.
[13:58:08] <Nikerabbit>	 my master branch tracks origin/master
[13:58:22] <hashar>	 it should track gerrit/master for git-review
[13:58:31] <Nikerabbit>	 that makes no sense
[13:58:34] <hashar>	 that is the issue
[13:58:41] <hashar>	 or just drop gerrit remote
[13:58:54] <hashar>	 and only use origin. No need to use two remote names for the same repo
[13:58:58] <^demon>	 Having both never bothered me.
[13:59:06] <^demon>	 Until I upgraded git-review day before yesterday
[13:59:20] <^demon>	 Wonder if there's a bug in the new version
[14:00:10] <Nikerabbit>	 this is my .git/config: http://pastebin.com/1urUfF0B
[14:00:41] <Nikerabbit>	 and I always create new branches as git checkout -b 2012/foo origin/master, is that wrong?
[14:01:07] <^demon>	 It shouldn't matter, both remotes point to the same history.
[14:01:13] <^demon>	 That's why I'm wondering if it's a bug.
[14:01:39] <hashar>	 Nikerabbit: it is not wrong
[14:01:45] <Nikerabbit>	 I don't understand why I should be dropping anything, I haven't done anything special here
[14:01:51] <hashar>	 it is just that git-review use 'gerrit' as a default remote name
[14:01:55] <Nikerabbit>	 that's just git clone -d master && git review -s
[14:02:11] <hashar>	 so you have to specify another remote name :  git-review -r origin
[14:02:22] <hashar>	 or create your branches using:   git checkout -b 2012/foo gerrit/master
[14:02:32] <Nikerabbit>	 that's what we have been told to do, so it should work as-is
[14:02:40] <Nikerabbit>	 hashar: for l10n commits I just use -t l10n
[14:02:43] <^demon>	 And I'm saying, the remotes shouldn't matter since the history is the same.
[14:03:36] <hashar>	 or edit the  .gitreview file to add:    defaultremote=origin
[14:03:54] <hashar>	 then people that use  "gerrit" as a remote will be screwed but will just have to rename it from "gerrit" to "origin"
[14:03:55] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Cookie and Cache conflict resulting in wrong langauge being displayed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35926  (10Srikanth Logic)
[14:03:57] <hashar>	 that would fix the issue
[14:04:03] <Beau_>	 hashar: Jenkins supports unit tests for extensions?
[14:04:05] <hashar>	 or rename your remote to "gerrit" and you will be fine
[14:04:11] <Nikerabbit>	 hashar: I don't think you understand
[14:04:15] * ^demon  gives up, nobody is listening to me

[14:04:16] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Remove accurate status of FlaggedRevs on MediaWiki.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35794  +comment (10Tim Weyer)
[14:04:26] <Nikerabbit>	 hashar: I setup this clone as were documented
[14:04:29] <hashar>	 Beau_: there is a bug in our bugzilla
[14:04:33] <hashar>	 Nikerabbit: THE DOC IS WRONG 
[14:04:47] <hashar>	 you use the origin remote whereas git-review use gerrit
[14:04:50] <Nikerabbit>	 hashar: why is the doc wrong?
[14:05:07] <^demon>	 hashar: For the 3rd time...this is a new issue and the the REMOTES DO NOT MATTER. This *has not happened* until just the last ~48h
[14:05:23] <hashar>	 so either you fix your local repo and rename 'origin' to 'gerrit'   ||  you edit .gitreview so that it has a line saying  defaultremote=origin
[14:05:25] <hashar>	 that is all
[14:05:46] <Nikerabbit>	 hashar: sigh
[14:05:57] <Nikerabbit>	 I'm not making any local hacks
[14:06:02] <^demon>	 Nikerabbit: I'm listening, and I think it's a bug. Ignore hashar, he doesn't know what he's talking about.
[14:06:14] * hashar  goes to do some coding

[14:06:32] <^demon>	 Nikerabbit: I hit the same issue yesterday, soon after updating git-review.
[14:07:00] <Nikerabbit>	 hashar: this will affect *everybody*, and it is not sustainable that they will find this out one-by-one and we suggest them to do this and that individually
[14:08:00] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) file path for paged media - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35380  +comment (10Beau)
[14:09:34] <^demon>	 Nikerabbit: I've got a busy morning, but I'll try to dig into this a bit more this afternoon. I ended up working around the issue yesterday, but in a totally non-sustainable way (since I think it's a bug :p)
[14:09:54] <hashar>	 Nikerabbit: try:  git remote update
[14:10:05] <hashar>	 that should solve the issue
[14:10:27] <Nikerabbit>	 I had the same problem yesterday too, and Roan suggested git fetch gerrit (I guess he had the same)
[14:10:36] <hashar>	 as I said, the fix is to override git-review convention and put in our .giterview files:   defaultremote=origin
[14:10:37] <Nikerabbit>	 I thought it was just one-off glitch but that isn't the case
[14:11:14] <Nikerabbit>	 hashar: if that is the fix, someone should do it
[14:11:25] <hashar>	 {{SOFIXIT}}
[14:11:28] <hashar>	 :-D
[14:11:41] <hashar>	 I don't have the issue since my clones are using 'gerrit' as a remote name
[14:12:00] <Nikerabbit>	 I like your attitude very much
[14:12:31] * Nikerabbit  shuts up and tries to get some actual work done

[14:13:36] <hashar>	 Beau_: here is the bug https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34617
[14:13:46] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Liangent; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4841
[14:15:35] <liangent>	 hashar: ^
[14:15:47] <Beau_>	 hashar: thanks, I was interested in how extension dependencies are handled :-)
[14:18:18] <hashar>	 liangent: I am not sure I understand what you mean
[14:18:56] <sumanah>	 Beau_: thanks for all your ProofreadPage fixes!
[14:19:12] <liangent>	 did you read my reply to nikerabbit's inline comment?
[14:20:23] <Beau_>	 sumanah: I am waiting for them to be merged now before I fix more :)
[14:21:34] <sumanah>	 Beau_: :) there's stuff you can do in the interim, right? like maybe improve documentation on mediawiki.org or help triage bugs
[14:21:37] <sumanah>	 (if you want)
[14:22:03] <chughakshay16>	 sumanah: hi sumana, 
[14:22:13] <sumanah>	 hi chughakshay16 
[14:22:21] <chughakshay16>	 sumanah: how to change the subscription type for wikitech-l ?
[14:22:37] <chughakshay16>	 sumanah: right now they come as a digest.
[14:22:43] <sumanah>	 chughakshay16: go to the list's info page
[14:22:57] <sumanah>	 chughakshay16: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l log in at the bottom and go to your preferences
[14:23:02] <sumanah>	 back in a bit
[14:24:02] <wikibugs>	 03(VERIFIED) allow transwiki imports on wikimania2012 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35917  +comment (10Jeremy Baron)
[14:25:11] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Santhosh; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4875
[14:27:52] <chughakshay16>	 sumanah: thanks , done
[14:28:51] <liangent>	 can we get gerrit-wm output the title of commit (first line of summary) with reporting a review?
[14:28:55] <chughakshay16>	 freakolowsky: hi, 
[14:29:02] <freakolowsky>	 aloha
[14:29:14] <liangent>	 hashar, or other gerrit experts?
[14:29:24] <chughakshay16>	 freakolowsky: i assume 'aloha' means 'hello' :)
[14:29:38] <freakolowsky>	 your assumption iz correct
[14:29:43] <hashar>	 liangent: what is  gerrit-wm  ? :D
[14:30:08] <liangent>	 "gerrit-wm: New review: Santhosh; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4875"
[14:30:14] <hashar>	 liangent: if you want to change the title of a commit, you have to fetch it (git-review -d 1234), then edit the commit message ( git commit --amend), and push it (git-review -f )
[14:30:16] <chughakshay16>	 freakolowsky: its regarding what u said earlier,, to use caching instead of sessions.. but for that to happen wouldnt admin have to enable caching first.. ?
[14:30:40] <hashar>	 liangent: oooh you mean gerrit-wm bot :-D
[14:31:27] <chughakshay16>	 freakolowsky: and i figured that since i am storing a small piece of data.. sessions would work just fine .. :) what say ?
[14:31:42] <hashar>	 liangent: that is a python script run whenever a comment is added. In operations/puppet.git , have a look at files/gerrit/hooks/comment-added
[14:31:49] <freakolowsky>	 hmmm ...
[14:31:51] <freakolowsky>	 true
[14:32:28] <freakolowsky>	 and you're just storing data between ajax calls
[14:32:48] <chughakshay16>	 freakolowsky: yes, only for that purpose
[14:33:06] <freakolowsky>	 session works in that case
[14:35:38] <MissDee>	 is there a sane way to remove all trace of a page from my wiki?
[14:35:50] <MissDee>	 in this case, removal of spam
[14:36:36] <liangent>	 MissDee: is maintenance/deleteArchivedRevisions.php is enough?
[14:37:23] <MissDee>	 found 1919 revisions
[14:37:26] <sumanah>	 !spam | MissDee 
[14:37:26] <mw-bot>	 MissDee: For information about combating and handling spam in MediaWiki, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Combating_spam> and <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Anti-spam_features>.
[14:37:35] <sumanah>	 just wanted to make sure you saw that, MissDee 
[14:37:36] <MissDee>	 what counts as archived?
[14:37:50] <MissDee>	 I;ve not seen that term in MW until today
[14:38:19] <liangent>	 MissDee: deleted with on-wiki deleting operation
[14:38:21] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) jquery.tablesorter should preserve original order of equal cells when reversing sort order twice - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35526  (10Richard Guk)
[14:38:39] <MissDee>	 ohh, ok
[14:40:20] <MissDee>	 that seems to have done some
[14:40:38] <MissDee>	 still entries int he upload log which show in the RC list (to be expected)
[14:46:17] <JeroenDeDauw>	 nischayn22: beware that Oracle support is REALLY low on our priority list :p
[14:48:01] <JeroenDeDauw>	 freakolowsky: I'd love to see SMW make more use of MWs DB abstraction layer, so if you want to work on that, please do :P But beware that this might not be a trivial task - the SQL store is perhaps the biggest "bunch of code doing stuff" in SMW
[14:49:00] <freakolowsky>	 JeroenDeDauw: so things haven't changed that much since last year
[14:50:45] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) jquery.tablesorter should preserve original order of equal cells when reversing sort order twice - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35526  +comment (10Richard Guk)
[14:52:11] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Szymon ?wierkosz; "(bug 18145) Diffs on some /details views are stretched horizontally." [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4884
[14:52:21] <sumanah>	 Beau_: :D
[14:53:31] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Diffs on some /details views are stretched horizontally, making the page scroll - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/18145  +comment (10Beau)
[14:54:43] <Beau_>	 sumanah: it was annoying me for some time ;-)
[14:55:15] <saper_>	 JeroenDeDauw: doing a lot on the database is not necessarily a bad thing; maybe hard to abstract sometimes.
[14:57:09] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: IAlex; "(bug 35941) Fix PHP notice in SpecialVersion::getVersion()" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4885
[14:57:44] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Undefined $info on SpecialVersion - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35941  +comment (10Alexandre Emsenhuber [IAlex])
[14:58:22] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4885
[15:01:50] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Demon; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4885
[15:01:52] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Demon; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4885
[15:02:37] <wikibugs>	 03(FIXED) Undefined $info on SpecialVersion - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35941  +comment (10Alexandre Emsenhuber [IAlex])
[15:05:42] <wikibugs>	 14(DUP) autocreation of accounts skips filter action == 'createaccount' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35824  +comment (10Beau)
[15:05:43] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Variable "accountname" (on account creation) does not work if account is automatically created (CentralAuth/SUL) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/20272  +comment (10Beau)
[15:07:25] <Tim_Weyer>	 ^demon: Chad, as sysadmin could you please take a look at https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35794 ?
[15:07:56] <nischayn22>	 JeroenDeDauw: I was going to discuss that with you and Markus. I know it now :)
[15:08:45] <sumanah>	 nischayn22: by the way, what small project did you decide to start next?
[15:11:45] * sumanah  is: listening to Kraftwerk, creating developer accounts

[15:12:01] <nischayn22>	 sumanah: Haven't decided yet, still looking around Pywikipediabot. I actually ended up making a new Extension today :P.Have a look http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CopyToClipboard 
[15:12:17] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Remove accurate status of FlaggedRevs on MediaWiki.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35794  +comment (10Tim Weyer)
[15:12:39] <nischayn22>	 sumanah: here is the snapshot https://github.com/nischayn22/CopyToClipboard/blob/master/snapshot.png
[15:13:26] <^demon>	 Tim_Weyer: Is this urgent? If not, I imagine Sam will take care of it pretty soon.
[15:13:37] <^demon>	 He's pretty good at keeping up with shell requests these days.
[15:13:38] <liangent>	 hashar: in gerrit, where's a link I can follow to see the tree of operations/puppet?
[15:13:44] <sumanah>	 interesting, nischayn22 
[15:14:03] <hashar>	 liangent: that is hidden :-D
[15:14:21] <hashar>	 liangent: http://gerrit.wikimedia.org/gitweb/operations/puppet
[15:14:27] <Tim_Weyer>	 ^demon: no, it isn't. I just think that Sam missed it
[15:14:54] <^demon>	 Ahh, it's under "Extension setup"
[15:14:57] <^demon>	 Let me fix that and add him to CC
[15:15:04] <liangent>	 hashar: and append ".git"
[15:15:06] <hashar>	 liangent: sorry correct link is https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/gitweb/operations/puppet.git
[15:15:26] <hashar>	 we could make the bot to learn that
[15:15:26] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Remove accurate status of FlaggedRevs on MediaWiki.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35794  (10Chad H.)
[15:15:28] <hashar>	 !gitweb
[15:15:28] <mw-bot>	 For core: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?p=mediawiki/core.git
[15:15:44] <^demon>	 !gitweb del
[15:15:46] <mw-bot>	 Successfully removed keyword: gitweb
[15:15:47] <hashar>	 !gitweb is https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/gitweb/$1.git
[15:15:47] <mw-bot>	 Successfully added keyword: gitweb
[15:15:52] <hashar>	 !gitweb mediawiki/core
[15:15:52] <mw-bot>	 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/gitweb/$1.git
[15:15:58] <^demon>	 I thought it was `e1?
[15:16:01] <^demon>	 Or something weird?
[15:16:09] <hashar>	 i have no idea :/
[15:16:14] <hashar>	 !gitweb del
[15:16:15] <mw-bot>	 Successfully removed keyword: gitweb
[15:16:15] <^demon>	 !gitweb core.git
[15:16:16] <mw-bot>	 I don't know anything about "gitweb".
[15:16:29] <hashar>	 i love IRC
[15:16:33] <Tim_Weyer>	 Thanks, ^demon
[15:17:01] <^demon>	 !r
[15:17:01] <mw-bot>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/`e1
[15:17:08] <^demon>	 !gitweb is https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/gitweb/`e1
[15:17:08] <mw-bot>	 Successfully added keyword: gitweb
[15:17:13] <^demon>	 !gitweb mediawiki/core.git
[15:17:14] <mw-bot>	 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/gitweb/mediawiki%2Fcore.git
[15:17:33] <^demon>	 Whee, urlencoding :\
[15:17:54] <wikibugs>	 04(REOPENED) Invalid values of added_lines, removed_lines, edit_diff - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/20310  +comment (10Beau)
[15:18:27] <^demon>	 !gitweb del
[15:18:27] <mw-bot>	 Successfully removed keyword: gitweb
[15:18:36] <^demon>	 !gitweb is https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?p=`e1
[15:18:37] <mw-bot>	 Successfully added keyword: gitweb
[15:18:40] <^demon>	 That will work :)
[15:18:48] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) AbuseFilter: "Lines added in edit" (added_lines) shows old lines, not added; same oddity for "unified diff" (edit_diff) and "Lines removed in edit" (removed_lines) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/20851  +comment (10Beau)
[15:18:49] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Invalid values of added_lines, removed_lines, edit_diff - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/20310  +comment (10Beau)
[15:18:51] <^demon>	 !gitweb mediawiki/core.git
[15:18:51] <mw-bot>	 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?p=mediawiki%2Fcore.git
[15:18:59] <^demon>	 Win.
[15:19:06] <sumanah>	 you have fought the bot and won
[15:19:10] <sumanah>	 I offer cupcakes of victory
[15:19:46] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) "Unified diff" not unified (edit_diff) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/26433  +comment (10Beau)
[15:19:47] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Invalid values of added_lines, removed_lines, edit_diff - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/20310  +comment (10Beau)
[15:19:53] <liangent>	 hashar: so can I push changes to operation/puppet.git?
[15:20:06] <^demon>	 liangent: You can push for review, yes.
[15:20:39] <drecodeam>	 hi sumanah
[15:20:48] <sumanah>	 hi drecodeam 
[15:21:05] <drecodeam>	 the patch you asked me to review, sumanah: the patch you asked me to review https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=28850, NeilK has already commented on it that the patch would not be useful 
[15:21:09] <hashar>	 liangent: indeed. To refs/for/production
[15:21:35] <hashar>	 liangent: that will create a change for ops to review. So you can actually change the way the Wikimedia cluster is operated :-D
[15:22:03] <hashar>	 liangent: you could potentially submit a change to switch from apache to lighttpd or from mysql to postgreSQL
[15:22:08] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Save categories on "Next" even if they weren't explicitly added - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28850  -need-review +reviewed; +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara)
[15:22:14] <sumanah>	 drecodeam: thank you for noticing that. I've changed the keywords on that bug
[15:23:18] <drecodeam>	 sumanah: ok
[15:23:46] <nischayn22>	 sumanah: Is mailing mediawiki-l for even small extensions the only way to announce them? Or should I use some other method?
[15:24:37] * sumanah  waits for someone else to answer nischayn22 because she is busy

[15:25:36] <sumanah>	 ^demon|away: I'm sorry, one quick thing
[15:26:01] <^demon|away>	 Hm?
[15:26:07] <sumanah>	 ^demon|away: is it ok to create Labs users who have non-ASCII characters in their names?
[15:26:14] <sumanah>	 in their wiki names
[15:26:26] <sumanah>	 not the shell name of course
[15:26:38] <sumanah>	 the one I'm working on: Krzysztof Krzyżaniak (eloy)
[15:26:40] <^demon|away>	 I would prefer to avoid it until we've got a better answer on gerrit.
[15:26:43] <sumanah>	 ok
[15:26:45] <mahadeva>	 hi
[15:26:45] <sumanah>	 dammit
[15:26:52] * sumanah  goes back to account creation

[15:27:04] <^demon|away>	 I did some testing yesterday on that. Maybe I'll finish today.
[15:36:55] <liangent>	 hashar: when I was cloning operations/puppet I see something abnormal
[15:37:23] <liangent>	 in Receiving objects:  47% (9483/20176), 1.69 MiB | 28 KiB/s   step
[15:37:46] <hashar>	 consider relocating to France 
[15:37:56] <liangent>	 after Receiving objects:  76% (15368/20176), 3.44 MiB | 33 KiB/s    is reached, the percentage number doesn't increase anymore, but the number of bytes keeps increasing
[15:38:12] <hashar>	 we have internet service provider offering 100Mbits for 40€/months
[15:38:20] <hashar>	 ohh
[15:38:26] <hashar>	 so that must be a loooong object
[15:38:37] <hashar>	 I think that repo has a gerrit.war wich is a few MBytes long :-(
[15:38:55] <liangent>	 then after receiving several more MiBs I get "Connection to gerrit.wikimedia.org closed by remote host."
[15:39:14] <hashar>	 $ ll -h files/gerrit/*.war
[15:39:14] <hashar>	 -rw-r--r--@ 1 amusso  staff    18M 18 oct 18:28 files/gerrit/gerrit-2.2.1.war
[15:39:23] <hashar>	 :-(  18Mbytes
[15:39:29] <liangent>	 what's that?
[15:39:30] <hashar>	 you will have to clone again I guess sorry
[15:39:40] <hashar>	 that is a file that should never have been added to that git repo
[15:39:43] <liangent>	 it failed three times
[15:39:46] <hashar>	 but that is there nonetheless 
[15:39:47] <hashar>	 :-((
[15:40:33] <hashar>	 I can probably build an archive for you
[15:42:33] <hashar>	 2.89MiB/s
[15:42:44] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Add commit summary in IRC gerrit-wm bot line of review - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35948 normal; Wikimedia: Git/Gerrit; (liangent)
[15:43:03] <guillom>	 how do you see the list of projects in gerrit?
[15:43:04] <liangent>	 ok I submitted it as a bug and wait for someone else to look at it
[15:43:37] <hashar>	 guillom: you can't :-(
[15:43:42] <guillom>	 wat.
[15:44:03] <guillom>	 You can't see a basic hierarchy of the thing?
[15:44:16] <apergos>	 I would like a way to easily get to a usr's open/merged/etc contribs from knowing only their username
[15:44:25] <apergos>	 so far I have failed to find one
[15:44:57] <hashar>	 apergos: maybe search for:   owner:username
[15:45:00] <hashar>	 ex:   owner:hashar
[15:45:44] <guillom>	 hashar: I was asking so I could look at what exists to propose a hierarchy that makes sense for the communications tools I want to move to wikimedia's repo
[15:46:05] <apergos>	 thanks.  the default message wasn't very helpful
[15:46:55] <hashar>	 guillom: I can give you a list
[15:47:03] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) MF should handle wide tables more elegantly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35945  +comment (10Jon)
[15:47:35] <hashar>	 guillom: if you have a labs account and a gerrit access you could do:   ssh -p 29418 guillom@gerrit.wikimedia.org gerrit ls-projects
[15:47:51] <guillom>	 hashar: well, I thought I had seen a list in the web interface
[15:48:07] <hashar>	 guillom: we only have a list of mediawiki extensions hosted in gerrit
[15:48:14] <guillom>	 hmm
[15:48:30] <sumanah>	 guillom: yes you can
[15:48:31] <guillom>	 hashar: I thought I remembered seeing a list of projects, with analytics and all
[15:48:36] * sumanah  reads backscroll

[15:48:46] <hashar>	 guillom: here it is for you http://dpaste.org/HO5SK/
[15:48:59] <sumanah>	 guillom: you did
[15:49:11] <guillom>	 hashar: thanks
[15:49:13] <sumanah>	 hashar is lying, mistaken, or possibly maliciously wrong :)
[15:49:21] <sumanah>	 guillom: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#admin,projects
[15:49:25] <hashar>	 guillom: for the name / git repo organization, you want to talk with Ryan Lane and or Mark Bergsma
[15:49:35] <hashar>	 guillom: though Chad might help too
[15:49:46] <guillom>	 sumanah: AH! Thanks!
[15:49:59] <sumanah>	 hashar: please do not tell people that there is no way to view the list of Gerrit projects.
[15:50:02] <guillom>	 That's what I was remembering, awesome
[15:50:04] <hashar>	 does that URL requires admin rights?
[15:50:10] <hashar>	 doesnt ?
[15:50:21] <guillom>	 So, I'm not signed in 
[15:50:39] <sumanah>	 hashar: Please refer to https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Gerrit_project_ownership "To see the current list of Gerrit project owners for a specific Gerrit project, visit https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#admin,groups . (Sorry, you must log in to see that list. It's easy to get an account.)"
[15:50:44] <wikibugs>	 03(FIXED) Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property 'syntaxOk' of null - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31729  +comment (10Beau)
[15:50:46] <guillom>	 It's clearly not idea if you have to know the URL to find it, though.
[15:50:59] <sumanah>	 guillom: I agree with you a billion percent.
[15:51:04] <guillom>	 ideal*
[15:51:17] <sumanah>	 guillom: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35510
[15:51:22] <sumanah>	 Bug 35510 - Make Gerrit project list more discoverable and available 
[15:51:57] <sumanah>	 guillom: once you log into Gerrit, can you see the Gerrit project list at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#admin,projects ?
[15:51:59] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Add commit summary in IRC gerrit-wm bot line of review - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35948  (10Chad H.)
[15:52:05] <guillom>	 I honestly thought that bugzilla entry would be something like "Gerrit sux; I want a Pony instead."
[15:52:16] <hashar>	 sumanah: so that is what I was saying to guillom, you need a Gerrit account to list projects :-D
[15:52:22] <guillom>	 sumanah: I was saying I can see it without being logged in.
[15:52:31] <sumanah>	 hashar: no, you said "you can't"
[15:52:41] <sumanah>	 guillom: that's great! oh good
[15:53:22] <guillom>	 sumanah: , so each line is considered a separate project?
[15:53:38] * ^demon  feels like he's about to get attacked with pings.

[15:53:46] <sumanah>	 guillom: I am going to be pedantic and say that each line is a separate Gerrit project
[15:53:51] * hashar  sends git support requests to ^demon 

[15:54:06] <sumanah>	 (guillom: a Gerrit project and a Labs project are very different things and so I am careful to always always say what kind of project I am talking about)
[15:54:07] <^demon>	 sumanah: No need to be pedantic, that is how it is :)
[15:54:22] <guillom>	 ok
[15:54:41] <guillom>	 So, who do I talk to about having a couple *Gerrit* projects created?
[15:54:51] <sumanah>	 guillom: there are two ways to file a form
[15:54:51] <guillom>	 I want to move a couple things off github into the Wikimedia repo
[15:54:55] <sumanah>	 guillom: Aha
[15:54:57] <^demon>	 me.
[15:55:00] <sumanah>	 guillom: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/New_repositories
[15:55:04] <guillom>	 Thanks
[15:55:04] <sumanah>	 guillom: there is a form!
[15:55:14] <^demon>	 Yes, please use the form and put them on-wiki.
[15:55:17] <guillom>	 Sure
[15:55:20] <guillom>	 Thanks
[15:55:22] <^demon>	 If I get another /msg asking for a repo I'm going to go insane :p
[15:55:30] <sumanah>	 guillom: if the codebase had already been in Subversion, then you would use https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Conversion/Extensions_queue
[15:55:40] <sumanah>	 guillom: (just so you know!)
[15:55:46] <guillom>	 (I didn't mean to shortcircuit any existing process, just asking how things work)
[15:56:01] <guillom>	 sumanah: nope, they've never been in SVN.
[15:56:06] <sumanah>	 guillom: Got it.
[15:56:14] <^demon>	 sumanah: Extensions_queue is only for existing *extensions* in SVN. Existing other misc. stuff in svn should go on the new repo page.
[15:56:28] <sumanah>	 guillom: (I should say, if they had already been in svn.wikimedia.org.)
[15:56:31] <^demon>	 Basically, new repo page is for everything.
[15:56:36] <sumanah>	 ^demon: yup, I believe that's what I had been saying
[15:56:47] <sumanah>	 oh
[15:56:50] <sumanah>	 nevermind
[15:56:53] <sumanah>	 EXTENSIONS ONLY
[15:56:55] <sumanah>	 glargh
[15:56:56] <sumanah>	 ok
[15:57:12] <^demon>	 Yeah, existing extensions only on that page. New repo page for everything else.
[15:57:20] <sumanah>	 so, misc tools and bots and script utilities and so on should go on the new repo page. Got it.
[15:57:27] <^demon>	 *nod*
[15:57:57] <guillom>	 ^demon: just checking, is it ok to request the creation of a new top-level project if it doesn't fall into any of the existing categories?
[15:58:14] <^demon>	 Yeah, we can discuss it if it doesn't fit somewhere.
[15:58:32] <^demon>	 But if we're making a new top-level project, we need to name it *really* well :)
[15:58:43] <guillom>	 I'm thinking of something along the lines of "communications" to put all the blog stuffs under it
[15:58:52] <guillom>	 but I'm open to discussion, obviously
[15:59:04] <hashar>	 communication/blog/*
[15:59:05] <hashar>	 ?
[15:59:23] <hashar>	 then someone willing to open  a blog not under the communication group will be screwed :-D
[15:59:26] <guillom>	 nah, just communications/wp-victor, communications/WMBlog (the plugin)
[15:59:48] <guillom>	 and other plugins I'm working on
[15:59:53] <^demon>	 What if we made a new wikimedia top-level? That way we can stop cluttering ops but have a place for stuff that's obviously wmf-specific.
[15:59:59] <hashar>	 communication/wordpress/victor   communication/wordpress/WMBlog
[16:00:00] <guillom>	 (wp-victor is our current theme, but we're likely to change it too)
[16:00:11] <^demon>	 wikimedia/communication/blog, wikimedia/communication/planet
[16:00:12] <^demon>	 etc
[16:00:16] <^demon>	 Thoughts?
[16:00:26] <hashar>	 hmm
[16:00:32] <hashar>	 let s install a second gerrit instance
[16:00:51] <^demon>	 Um why?
[16:01:04] <hashar>	 you are not fun Chad
[16:01:13] <hashar>	 you are never reacting to my trolling attempt :-D
[16:01:22] <hashar>	 wikimedia namespace is a good idea 
[16:01:37] <^demon>	 guillom: How's that sound to you?
[16:01:55] <guillom>	 ^demon: a wikimedia top-level project works for me, but I'd rather call it "communications" (plural, it's generally how we refer to it within the WMF). I'm not sure it would be the best place for the planet, but I don't mind if you think it's the best place for it
[16:02:05] <guillom>	 I'd rather call the second level*
[16:02:17] <^demon>	 That's fine. And I was just using planet as an example.
[16:02:24] <guillom>	 ok
[16:02:35] <guillom>	 ^demon: then I'll proceed to the official form.
[16:02:44] <guillom>	 thanks :)
[16:03:02] <^demon>	 Okie dokie. If there's any kind of time constraints that you're working in note those too.
[16:04:24] <guillom>	 ^demon: not really, I can continue to work on github for now, and the production blog is using the github repo for now, so there's no rush. The fact that we can clone the entire repo with its history means that I don't really care when we move it to the wikimedia repo. 
[16:04:44] <guillom>	 It's just something I need to do eventually.
[16:04:59] <^demon>	 Yeah, we can set this up in about half an hour. It's just a matter of making the repo, setting the permissions, and pushing your current repo to gerrit.
[16:05:03] <guillom>	 And it seemed like a thing I could do on a Friday eveing at 6pm :)
[16:06:00] * guillom  reads the form now.

[16:06:28] <^demon>	 That form might be a little out of date. It was originally extension-specific, but the general idea should still apply.
[16:08:35] <sumanah>	 ialex: ping re GSoC
[16:11:05] <guillom>	 labs username is also labsconsole username, right? I've never actually dived into Labs properly.
[16:11:58] <STalKer-Y>	 when will you decide on that "bug": https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=835
[16:12:40] <sumanah>	 STalKer-Y: that is a question for Mark, our bugmeister, who is hexmode in IRC
[16:13:24] <STalKer-Y>	 i would need transclusion of pages without the categories
[16:13:57] <lemonbalm>	 are there any serious downsides of using the file cache for small wikis (http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:File_cache)
[16:14:02] <Theo10011>	 Any devs around?
[16:14:10] <STalKer-Y>	 since categories are generated from a template, i cannot wrap them in <noinclude> tags
[16:14:10] <Theo10011>	 #wikimedia-tech has no one answering.
[16:14:28] <STalKer-Y>	 so some decision on that would be nice
[16:14:34] <Theo10011>	 Server issue, a lot of people are reporting giant server lag.
[16:14:48] <sumanah>	 Theo10011: thanks for notifying us
[16:15:06] <sumanah>	 Theo10011: which wikis, and any pattern in who's seeing the lag?
[16:15:31] <Theo10011>	 everyone.
[16:18:04] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) update.php throws "Call to undefined method DatabasePostgres::realTableName()" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35927  +comment (10Alexandre Emsenhuber [IAlex])
[16:23:57] <guillom>	 ^demon: request added; like I said, it's not urgent. And feel free to tell me if you see anything that seems weird or doesn't make sense.
[16:24:06] <^demon>	 sumanah, guillom: Big picture status update on git/gerrit http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?diff=525058
[16:24:09] <STalKer-Y>	 sumanah: should i poke hexmode regarding that issue? :p
[16:24:32] <sumanah>	 STalKer-Y: yes, if you are asking to get an update regarding a bug like that, please do poke hexmode 
[16:24:38] <sumanah>	 Theo10011: could you give more details?
[16:24:44] <sumanah>	 Theo10011: When did people start complaining?
[16:24:53] <sumanah>	 Theo10011: is there a wiki page where people are reporting their issues?
[16:25:03] <guillom>	 ^demon: thanks :) I guess I just need to dive into it.
[16:25:05] * STalKer-Y  pokes hexmode with an issue that is open for more than 7.5 years

[16:25:47] <Theo10011>	 sumanah, I don't mean disrepect but it would be effecient if you don't talk to me like a newbie.
[16:25:54] <Theo10011>	 You can head over to the tech channel
[16:25:57] <Theo10011>	 #wikimedia-tech
[16:26:00] <Theo10011>	 #wikipedia
[16:26:02] <Theo10011>	 #wikipedia-en
[16:26:35] <Theo10011>	 you can pass the info to an op who can actually look into it. I'm not looking to be directed to the concerned person. ;)
[16:26:43] <guillom>	 Theo10011: you don't need a developer, you need operations staff, and looking at #wikimedia-operations, they're already aware of the problem and fixing it.
[16:27:00] <Theo10011>	 danke guillom 
[16:27:15] <sumanah>	 Theo10011: I don't mean disrespect either.  Just trying to figure out where the info is
[16:27:24] <Theo10011>	 all around ;)
[16:27:51] <sumanah>	 Theo10011: so next time, start off with "they're already talking about it in [place]" and I'll know! :D
[16:28:08] <Theo10011>	 I'd rather talk to an op directly. :P
[16:29:07] <sumanah>	 Theo10011: you understand my thinking of course
[16:29:53] <Theo10011>	 sumanah, this is OT, I have to mention something. 
[16:29:58] <Theo10011>	 You do great work with volunteers.
[16:30:02] <sumanah>	 Thank you!
[16:30:12] <Theo10011>	 but you don't seem to differentiate between them.
[16:30:22] <Theo10011>	 Most of us have been around for years.
[16:30:45] <Theo10011>	 We know the lay of the land.
[16:31:08] <Theo10011>	 It would be effecient if we didn't have to be explained the basics of where things are and who does what.
[16:31:13] <Theo10011>	 We're up on it. ;)
[16:32:26] <sumanah>	 Theo10011: I overexplain sometimes, sure, but I'm fine with making that tradeoff - most people understand that I'm not being condescending, I'm being overexplicit
[16:32:37] <sumanah>	 because that's a better failure mode than over-implicit
[16:32:59] <Theo10011>	 yes, but it gets hard to tell some times. :(
[16:33:15] <Theo10011>	 and you can come off condescending, unknowingly ofcourse.
[16:33:39] <sumanah>	 Got it
[16:33:46] <Theo10011>	 I know you do good work, so please don't let that dampen your spirits.
[16:34:18] <sumanah>	 Theo10011: I appreciate you trying to be clear and generally encouraging there
[16:34:26] <Theo10011>	 yw :)
[16:34:46] <apergos>	 um this was reported in wikimedia-tech
[16:34:54] <apergos>	 it's being worked on in 
[16:34:59] <Theo10011>	 ya, and no one replied. :(
[16:35:01] <Theo10011>	 so I came here.
[16:35:12] <Theo10011>	 Also, hi apergos 
[16:35:15] <Theo10011>	 I missed you.
[16:35:16] <apergos>	 wikimedia-operations
[16:35:21] <apergos>	 I sent someone else there but
[16:35:31] <apergos>	 I don't know if they went there
[16:35:37] <apergos>	 hello
[16:35:39] <apergos>	 :-D
[16:36:05] <apergos>	 anyways the short story is there were a lot of sessions open to the bits varnsh servers, so the max number has been upped on those
[16:36:57] <apergos>	 although I'm a fan of wikimedia-tech, most of the ops team seems to prefer to work in the operations channel
[16:37:24] <^demon>	 Habit, most likely. Ops only spun off because the noise in tech was too high
[16:38:37] * apergos  tries not to gripe about it

[16:38:40] <apergos>	 and fails :-P
[16:38:59] <guillom>	 -tech is where people report issues, -operations is where the ops staff fix them without the noise :)
[16:39:26] <^demon>	 The problem only arises when -ops forgets to tell -tech that it's fixed :)
[16:39:35] <guillom>	 Right =)
[16:39:35] <Theo10011>	 -tech is barely active these days.
[16:39:39] <Theo10011>	 next to no noise.
[16:39:45] <^demon>	 Well, we shut up the bots :)
[16:40:01] <guillom>	 Theo10011: the noise is noticeable when there's an issue, precisely :)
[16:40:05] <guillom>	 anyway
[16:40:43] <^demon>	 As long as nobody's suggesting any new channels :p
[16:41:04] <Theo10011>	 fork!!
[16:41:08] <guillom>	 The fact that days are becoming longer is screwing up my work schedule, I end up still working at 7pm on a Friday evening and not noticing it =)
[16:41:22] <sumanah>	 ha
[16:41:42] <^demon>	 guillom: Too many people to meet with across too many timezones :)
[16:41:53] <guillom>	 indeed
[16:42:07] <guillom>	 and my task list for this week is not even half done
[16:43:00] <Amgine>	 My task list for this week has more than doubled in size *during* this week.
[16:43:30] <sumanah>	 guillom: I'm with you
[16:44:05] <nischayn22>	 sumanah: still busy?
[16:44:14] <sumanah>	 nischayn22: I can talk a little
[16:44:17] <sumanah>	 nischayn22: what's up?
[16:44:47] <nischayn22>	 sumanah: 1. my question regarding announcing new extensions
[16:44:52] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Nikerabbit; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4875
[16:45:04] <nischayn22>	 and 2. what work is to be done for pywikipediabot?
[16:45:07] <sumanah>	 nischayn22: no one answered you?
[16:45:13] <sumanah>	 nischayn22: http://botwiki.sno.cc/wiki/Pywikipediabot/wishlist
[16:45:23] <sumanah>	 nischayn22: remind me - what was the new extensions question?
[16:45:40] <sumanah>	 nischayn22: also, check your logs from our conversation about secretaribot
[16:46:21] <nischayn22>	 no one answered. is mediawiki-l the best place to announce new extensions(even small) or there are other ways?
[16:47:09] <nischayn22>	 sumanah: ^
[16:47:12] <sumanah>	 nischayn22: aha
[16:47:23] <sumanah>	 nischayn22: here's my question -- what is your goal in announcing the extension?
[16:47:35] <sumanah>	 nischayn22: I shall employ the theory of the rhetorical triangle
[16:48:14] <nischayn22>	 sumanah: I want people to know that such an extension exists now and they can give it a try
[16:48:19] <sumanah>	 the author/speaker, the audience, and the context http://facweb.northseattle.edu/jclapp/ONLINE%20English%20102/The%20Rhetorical%20Triangle.htm
[16:50:06] <sumanah>	 nischayn22: who specifically are you trying to reach?
[16:50:17] <sumanah>	 nischayn22: other administrators of MediaWiki installations, right?
[16:50:23] <sumanah>	 nischayn22: anyone else?
[16:50:34] <sumanah>	 nischayn22: describe whom you're trying to get to try the extension
[16:51:11] <nischayn22>	 sumanah: actually I think my extension can be best used on MW's Extension pages
[16:51:39] <sumanah>	 nischayn22: since that means that you'd have to get WMF to deploy it on a Wikimedia site, you want to go through https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Writing_an_extension_for_deployment
[16:52:34] <nischayn22>	 sumanah: also in other places in MW. for example on How to become a MW hacker page. these are places where users are asked to copy text
[16:53:07] <sumanah>	 nischayn22: I understand 
[16:54:11] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) namespace required for "PORTAL" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34923  +comment (10Gitartha Bordoloi)
[16:55:15] <sumanah>	 nischayn22: every piece of writing -- every email, every presentation -- makes an argument, and skimming http://facweb.northseattle.edu/jclapp/ONLINE%20English%20102/The%20Rhetorical%20Triangle.htm will help you write those kinds of announcements better
[16:55:28] <nischayn22>	 sumanah: so I have to talk to Howie Fung
[16:55:40] <nischayn22>	 sumanah: that link is useful, thanks :)
[16:56:00] <sumanah>	 nischayn22: that is a good first step, yes - email Howie with a link to your extension and an explanation of why you think it ought to be a feature on our sites
[16:56:10] <sumanah>	 nischayn22: be warned that he might say no.... can you think of why he might say no?
[16:57:18] <nischayn22>	 sumanah: yes, my extension works only if there is flash support, I haven't yet found an alternative for that
[16:58:03] <sumanah>	 nischayn22: what about user interface clutter?
[16:59:50] <sumanah>	 I need to go eat lunch
[16:59:50] <sumanah>	 biab
[16:59:53] <nischayn22>	 sumanah: not sure about that, some part of the interface(color etc) can be changed.
[17:00:36] <ashish_d>	 jdlrobson, ping
[17:00:53] <jdlrobson>	 5 mins ashish_d just on a call :)
[17:03:01] <Amgine>	 nischan22: Gnash is an open-source flash replacement; I believe it has 100% support up to flash 9x
[17:03:10] <Amgine>	 nischayn22: ^
[17:04:14] <nischayn22>	 Amgine: I meant that that it needs flash on the user's browser to work.
[17:04:40] <Amgine>	 Gnash is a browser plugin.
[17:05:11] <^demon>	 Requiring people to install plugins is kinda icky. On the other hand, there's no other way to do copy+paste.
[17:05:35] * qchris  does not like flash ;)

[17:05:55] <nischayn22>	 Amgine: Ok, but that is for the user to decide no?
[17:05:58] <Amgine>	 <amgine doesn't like either, although gnash is installed>
[17:06:28] <nischayn22>	 chrome comes with flash plugin installed :)
[17:06:48] <Amgine>	 Yah. But I wouldn't rely on anything related to flash. People like me will remove it. 
[17:06:53] <^demon>	 The major thing is it needs to degrade gracefully. If the support isn't there, I think prompting people to install a plugin is bad.
[17:07:16] <codurr>	 New code comment: Nikerabbit; Please add message documentation for uriresolver. Is it a proper name or something else? It was prev; <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114651#c32667>
[17:07:21] <^demon>	 Amgine: There is no non-flash way of copying to clipboard. All the browsers disable it via JS due to security issues.
[17:07:44] <Amgine>	 <nods> 
[17:08:31] <nischayn22>	 ^demon: Right, my extension doesn't prompt the user, it just adds a feature for users with flash support, which in the absence of flash just doesn't show up
[17:09:58] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) update.php throws "Call to undefined method DatabasePostgres::realTableName()" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35927  +comment (10Tim Landscheidt)
[17:15:36] <jdlrobson>	 hey ashish_d are you still there?
[17:18:27] <jdlrobson>	 ashish_d: ping me when you are back :)
[17:21:20] <AaronSchulz>	 robla: I'm started to sort of like seltzer water...
[17:21:33] * AaronSchulz  is not so young anymore

[17:21:52] <RoanKattouw>	 haha
[17:21:53] <AaronSchulz>	 hmm, my birthday was the 5th
[17:21:55] <robla>	 AaronSchulz: welcome to the other side of the hill!  ;-)
[17:22:00] <AaronSchulz>	 it started after that
[17:29:50] <ashish_d>	 jdlrobson, hey, just wanted to know how is branch 'nearbylistview31956' fairing, any issues, on iOS or the ones you mentioned earlier?
[17:30:30] <ashish_d>	 I might be able to take some of them
[17:31:37] <jdlrobson>	 i was looking at it earlier. i started making some changes myself to make it work on ios and also there were quite a few problems with whitespace (you were using spaces rather than tabs)  - check out https://github.com/wikimedia/WikipediaMobile/compare/master...nearbylistview31956 - i'll poke you when i'm done i still have a bit more to look at :)
[17:31:48] <jdlrobson>	 but functionally it's looking very nice :)
[17:32:23] <ashish_d>	 ah I use expand tabs on vim
[17:36:49] <jdlrobson>	 ashish_d if you wanted to redo your branch via some cherry picking and rebasing based on my branch so that you get all the credit in the commits let me know :)
[17:38:56] <codurr>	 03kaldari * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114884> 10/trunk/extensions/PageTriage/ (6 files in 4 dirs): splitting single timestamp into creation date and tag update date
[17:40:01] <ashish_d>	 jdlrobson, you mean cherry pick the commits in your branch into mine and pushing them back in?
[17:40:10] <jdlrobson>	 yup
[17:40:24] <jdlrobson>	 if you do git rebase --interactive <commit id> you can also fixup the commits into one
[17:40:43] <sumanah>	 saper_: if you are going to do a git workshop in the next 7 days please do email the list to announce it
[17:40:48] <sumanah>	 sorry for the nag
[17:41:37] <AaronSchulz>	 RoanKattouw: the check faerie must have came while I was gone for a second 
[17:41:46] <RoanKattouw>	 eh?
[17:41:49] <RoanKattouw>	 I was here the whole time
[17:41:58] <RoanKattouw>	 Oh, right, you're on payroll and I'm not (yet)
[17:42:10] * RoanKattouw  is now reminded to download the Social Security number application form

[17:43:13] <ashish_d>	 jdlrobson, But I see my commits here, https://github.com/wikimedia/WikipediaMobile/commits/nearbylistview31956, credit looks fine to me :)
[17:44:35] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) update.php throws "Call to undefined method DatabasePostgres::realTableName()" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35927  +comment (10Alexandre Emsenhuber [IAlex])
[17:51:40] <wikibugs>	 03(FIXED) MF should handle wide tables more elegantly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35945  +comment (10Jon)
[17:54:55] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Cannot go back after uploading files - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32247  -need-review +reviewed; +comment (10drecodeam)
[17:59:57] <varnent>	 sumanah: perhaps we can or should schedule an additional workshop in 2-3 weeks with Chad & Co.?
[18:03:04] * varnent  realizes he's talking to himself as sumanah isn't in the room anymore..

[18:05:23] <Nikerabbit>	 aww
[18:05:59] <JeroenDeDauw>	 saper_: sure, it's just that the file SMW uses to interact with the db holds an incredible amount of stuff, so it's hard to get a decent overview
[18:08:23] <^demon>	 varnent: Maybe at 3 weeks, we can. The next 2 weeks are too busy for me.
[18:13:30] <varnent>	 that is doable
[18:18:29] <nischayn22>	 !logs
[18:18:29] <mw-bot>	 https://toolserver.org/~mwbot/ and http://bots.wmflabs.org/~wm-bot/searchlog/
[18:19:58] <sumanah>	 Platonides: got a moment?
[18:26:18] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) update.php throws "Call to undefined method DatabasePostgres::realTableName()" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35927  +comment (10Marcin Cieślak)
[18:30:51] <Nikerabbit>	 qchris: there?
[18:30:59] <qchris>	 Yes.
[18:31:16] <qchris>	 Did you receive mail? :D
[18:31:27] <Nikerabbit>	 yes
[18:31:39] <Nikerabbit>	 qchris: did you grep directly outputChanneled?
[18:31:50] <qchris>	 yes.
[18:32:10] <qchris>	 That might miss some indirect usage. That's why I asked for your opinion.
[18:32:10] <Nikerabbit>	 it is primarly used via the second parameter to output method
[18:32:21] <Nikerabbit>	 Translate extension is using it a lot
[18:32:49] <qchris>	 Yes. But if we manage to get that into output itself, it would not hurt. Would it?
[18:33:20] <Nikerabbit>	 let me see
[18:33:23] <qchris>	 (outputChanneled is public. That's why I am asking in first place)
[18:35:02] <Nikerabbit>	 as far as I'm concerned it doesn't need to be public at all
[18:35:24] <qchris>	 Ok, great.
[18:35:36] <Nikerabbit>	 even output which is the method used 100% of time is protected
[18:35:59] <Nikerabbit>	 output()
[18:36:14] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Send notification to account owner on multiple unsuccessful login attempts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/9838  +comment (10Platonides)
[18:36:30] <qchris>	 So if I manage to get the relevant channel stuff into output that would be fine with you?
[18:37:26] <Nikerabbit>	 I don't mind, personally I'm happy as it is and would just make it protected instead of public
[18:37:33] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Shallow clones fail with errors: git clone --depth 1 fails with error: RPC failed; result=22, HTTP code = 500 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35949 major; Wikimedia: Git/Gerrit; (mail)
[18:38:08] <qchris>	 Well ... the main problem is the use of stdout that's scattered all over the place. This makes it hard to test output without mocking the output functions
[18:38:47] <qchris>	 I am working on replacing this, so I somewhat need to know what is really used from outside
[18:39:00] <saper>	 ^demon: can we merge https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#change,4672 so that we unbreak master?
[18:39:02] <qchris>	 So protected would do for you ... would private do as well?
[18:39:46] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Shallow clones fail with errors: git clone --depth 1 fails with error: RPC failed; result=22, HTTP code = 500 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35949  (10T. Gries)
[18:40:40] <rgreer>	 I've been following http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Running_MediaWiki_on_Ubuntu and there's nothing at localhost/mediawiki or any of the other urls
[18:40:45] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Demon; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4672
[18:40:56] <rgreer>	 Or is this not the support channel>
[18:42:56] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) handle upload filesize > maxfilesize gracefully - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35916  +comment (10Brion Vibber)
[18:43:11] <sumanah>	 hi rgreer 
[18:43:18] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Demon; "This is going to need rebasing after the parent is rebased." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/3962
[18:43:19] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Replacing maintenance/Maintenance.php's STDOUT by print - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35950 enhancement; MediaWiki: Maintenance scripts; (christian)
[18:43:27] <sumanah>	 rgreer: so you're trying to install MediaWiki on Ubuntu, right?
[18:43:33] <rgreer>	 sumanah:Correct
[18:43:57] <rgreer>	 sumanah: localhost is giving the standard "Yes it works!
[18:43:58] <sumanah>	 rgreer: what step did you get to? did you get all the way through the web-based installer?
[18:44:15] <rgreer>	 sumanah: No, the first time you're supposed to connect through a browser it failed
[18:44:22] <Nikerabbit>	 qchris: it's unlikely that anyone would like to override that method in subclass
[18:44:40] <saper>	 ^demon: thanks :)
[18:44:58] * sumanah  doesn't know enough to help further, sorry

[18:45:25] <qchris>	 Nikerabbit: Unlikely ... well maybe. But why risk it? I've heard that output methods caused problems with dumps. So I'd rather be safe than sorry ;)
[18:45:28] <^demon>	 saper: It needs rebasing, but it looks fine substance wise.
[18:46:36] <Nikerabbit>	 qchris: what kind of problems?
[18:47:11] <qchris>	 apergos told me about problems in the output functions causing problems with dumps
[18:47:20] <saper>	 ^demon: I hate those path conflicts...
[18:47:55] <qchris>	 Nikerabbit: and it would minimize our surface (which is typically good anyways ... Less signatures to maintain .) )
[18:48:51] <apergos>	 not current problems, but it has happened in the past
[18:48:55] <apergos>	 and it was deadly
[18:49:08] <^demon>	 saper: 2.4 is going to have automatic rebasing on submit for trivial cases.
[18:49:40] <qchris>	 apergos: Hi. Thanks.
[18:49:41] <sumanah>	 s/glorious git future/glorious gerrit future/
[18:50:09] <apergos>	 since it's a part of the code that could impact things it might as well get tested like everything else
[18:50:12] <^demon>	 They're talking about doing a 2.4rc0 soon, so not too distant future :)
[18:50:35] <apergos>	 I believe in our glorious git future a whole lot more than the gerrit one
[18:50:38] <apergos>	 just sayin...
[18:50:59] <joancreus>	 when is it decided whether mediawiki.special.preferences is loaded or not? i do not seem to find it in resources.php
[18:52:00] <rgreer>	 sumanah: Any ideas?
[18:52:15] <sumanah>	 I'm sorry, rgreer, I just don't know.  you might try mediawiki-l
[18:52:19] <sumanah>	 !lists | rgreer 
[18:52:19] <mw-bot>	 rgreer: mediawiki-l and wikitech-l are the primary mailing lists for MediaWiki-related issues. See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mailing_lists for details.
[18:52:27] <Nikerabbit>	 ^demon: for trivial cases?
[18:52:41] <^demon>	 If it can rebase without conflict.
[18:54:49] <Nikerabbit>	 ^demon: should I open a bug for the git review submitting old commits issue?
[18:55:14] <^demon>	 Yeah. It's going to need an upstream fix so please tag it as such.
[18:56:07] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: saper; "Fix broken merge by 0a792a1dcba26dd70d64e307b301c6" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4672
[18:56:59] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Git review trying to push old commits - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35951 normal; Wikimedia: Git/Gerrit; (niklas.laxstrom)
[18:57:04] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Make file.php write files to Swift in production - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35952 normal; Wikimedia: Media storage; (robla)
[18:57:10] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Git review trying to push old commits - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35951   +upstream (10Niklas Laxström)
[18:57:11] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Make file.php write files to Swift in production - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35952  (10Rob Lanphier)
[18:57:14] <Nikerabbit>	 ^demon: I will leave it to you to poke upstream
[18:57:24] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4672
[18:57:33] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Demon; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4672
[18:57:36] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Demon; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4672
[18:58:37] <^demon>	 saper: Looks like the only outstanding this is now 3962 :)
[18:58:44] <^demon>	 For master.
[18:59:08] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Manually fix blocks from when global oversight log removal problem started - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34995  +comment (10Rob Lanphier)
[18:59:23] <wikibugs>	 03(FIXED) Manually fix blocks from when global oversight log removal problem started - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34995  (10Rob Lanphier)
[18:59:30] <joancreus>	 anyone?
[19:00:19] <sumanah>	 sorry joancreus - San Francisco is at lunch
[19:00:29] <^demon>	 joancreus: Probably SpecialPreferences calls addModules() at some point?
[19:00:31] <^demon>	 Just guessing.
[19:01:50] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: saper; "(bug 27283) SqlBagOStuff breaks PostgreSQL txns" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/3962
[19:03:08] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/3962
[19:03:09] <joancreus>	 hmm ok thanks ^demon !
[19:03:56] <wikibugs>	 03(FIXED) update.php throws "Call to undefined method DatabasePostgres::realTableName()" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35927  +comment (10Marcin Cieślak)
[19:04:18] <wikibugs>	 03(FIXED) Beta Desktop view switcher incorrectly sets useformat=mobile when on http://en.m.wikipedia.org/ - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35940  +comment (10Arthur Richards)
[19:04:46] <saper>	 ^demon: rebsed in patchset 4, running unit tests now
[19:05:07] <sumanah>	 saper: you saw my IRC note re the git workshop?
[19:05:22] <saper>	 sumanah: yes, will write about it tonight (i.e. in ca 2 hours)
[19:05:31] <sumanah>	 saper: got it, sorry for the nag :)
[19:05:38] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Shallow clones fail with errors: git clone --depth 1 fails with error: RPC failed; result=22, HTTP code = 500 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35949  +comment (10Chad H.)
[19:06:17] <saper>	 sumanah: no no, nagging is good
[19:06:29] <joancreus>	 i've got some code which works, and probably can enter core, but it obviously needs a review. i've got developer access. should i just git commit and push origin? i don't want to break anything ;)
[19:06:36] <vvv>	 Platonides: what's wrong with genetic algorithms in Wikipedia templates?
[19:06:39] <sumanah>	 joancreus: yes, go ahead
[19:06:50] <sumanah>	 joancreus: we have a pre-merge review system
[19:06:56] <sumanah>	 joancreus: someone will review your code before merging it
[19:06:59] <joancreus>	 phewww :)
[19:07:01] <sumanah>	 joancreus: so you won't break things!
[19:07:14] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: preilly; "Add banner text for carrier" [mediawiki/extensions/ZeroRatedMobileAccess] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4908
[19:07:15] <sumanah>	 joancreus: there's a little info about this at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Workflow#How_to_comment_on.2C_review.2C_and_merge_code_in_Gerrit
[19:07:25] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) WikiLove tab "heart" icon is low-resolution - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35334  +comment (10Brion Vibber)
[19:08:03] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: preilly; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/ZeroRatedMobileAccess] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4908
[19:08:03] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: preilly; [mediawiki/extensions/ZeroRatedMobileAccess] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4908
[19:08:08] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Shallow clones fail with errors: git clone --depth 1 fails with error: RPC failed; result=22, HTTP code = 500 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35949  +comment (10Chad H.)
[19:08:42] <sumanah>	 joancreus: someday, once you have shown prowess in reviewing other people's code, you might apply for and get "Gerrit project owner" status
[19:09:32] <sumanah>	 joancreus: you can review other people's code, to help find errors or to say "I think this is good", with your developer access -- you'll help advise the people who have the Gerrit project ownership and who can then merge or veto the changesets
[19:10:20] <saper>	 ^demon: good, unit tests failed
[19:10:43] <saper>	 i.e. failed only in two expected cases
[19:11:10] <sumanah>	 joancreus: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Code_review_guide#Review_checklist in case you want to learn to review a little
[19:11:25] <joancreus>	 ok. thanks to everyone!
[19:11:31] <sumanah>	 :)
[19:15:16] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Shallow clones fail with errors: git clone --depth 1 fails with error: RPC failed; result=22, HTTP code = 500 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35949  +comment (10T. Gries)
[19:16:09] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Brion VIBBER; "Notes at https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35334#c4" [mediawiki/extensions/WikiLove] (master); V: 0 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4842
[19:18:47] <joancreus>	 'There were no Nova credentials found for your user account. Please ask a Nova administrator to create credentials for you.' in labsconsole... previously it worked. it's strange
[19:19:16] <sumanah>	 joancreus: ! where are you getting this error? logging in on the website?
[19:19:35] <joancreus>	 sorry, now it works
[19:19:37] <joancreus>	 never mind
[19:19:57] <sumanah>	 :)
[19:20:34] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Unintuitive nagging for gerrit after review - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35883  +comment (10Marcin Cieślak)
[19:20:39] <shantanoo>	 sumanah: can you share you the notes of git workshop?
[19:20:57] <sumanah>	 shantanoo: they are already up
[19:20:58] <sumanah>	 !git
[19:20:58] <mw-bot>	 MediaWiki development is using git, a distributed source control manager, starting on March 21st, 2012; details: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git_happens Instructions for using it: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Workflow  To get an account: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Labsconsole_accounts
[19:21:02] <shantanoo>	 have been trying since git for 2-3 days
[19:21:08] <sumanah>	 shantanoo: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Workflow 
[19:21:42] <sumanah>	 shantanoo: I should be more specific: when I taught the workshop several weeks back, I used this version https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Git/Workflow&oldid=504579  as the notes and syllabus
[19:22:01] <codurr>	 03awjrichards * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114885> 10/branches/wmf/1.19wmf1/extensions/MobileFrontend/ (14 files in 5 dirs): MFG Change-Id: I69ea5ed7f285b259775003ac86e6e96c4301577b
[19:22:04] <sumanah>	 shantanoo: saper is teaching the next workshop and will probably also use the Git Workflow document as the basis for a syllabus/notes
[19:22:17] <sumanah>	 shantanoo: if you are having specific problems with git, please share them here and we can help you solve them
[19:22:39] <shantanoo>	 sure. let me check above links
[19:23:26] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Hashar; "At least this way we will be able to reuse it elsewhere and enhances it :-)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4851
[19:23:26] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Hashar; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4851
[19:23:54] <chughakshay16>	 could someone help me out with gerrit ?
[19:24:54] <sumanah>	 !ask
[19:24:55] <mw-bot>	 Hi, how can we help you? Just ask your question.
[19:25:01] <chughakshay16>	 sumanah : hi, I would like to submit a new patchset.. nd kind of confused with what i am seeing on my git bash.. please help !
[19:25:14] <sumanah>	 chughakshay16: I think you already know the question I am about to ask
[19:25:16] <sumanah>	 :)
[19:26:07] <chughakshay16>	 sumanah : http://dpaste.com/731321/
[19:26:12] <sumanah>	 Thank youuuuuuuuu
[19:26:23] <sumanah>	 "fatal: A branch named 'review/chughakshay16/bug/21119' already exists."
[19:26:49] <chughakshay16>	 sumanah, so what does this mean .. ?that i have already fetched one already.. ?
[19:27:04] <chughakshay16>	 *that i have fetched one already
[19:27:13] <sumanah>	 chughakshay16: I am not the Git or Gerrit expert in this room and I don't know, sorry
[19:27:40] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: preilly; "Fixes for carriers with spaces and only show carrier name with region" [mediawiki/extensions/ZeroRatedMobileAccess] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4910
[19:27:41] <sumanah>	 chughakshay16: whatever you learn, please add the problem description and a solution to https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Workflow#Troubleshooting
[19:28:18] <sumanah>	 chughakshay16: I think ^demon mentioned earlier that there is a problem with the newest version of git-review but I don't know whether that's related to your problem.
[19:28:25] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: preilly; "Fixes for carriers with spaces and only show carrier name with region" [mediawiki/extensions/ZeroRatedMobileAccess] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4910
[19:28:32] <chughakshay16>	 sumanah, may be :)
[19:28:47] <chughakshay16>	 sumanah,that doesnt sound comforting at all .. :|
[19:28:50] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: preilly; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/ZeroRatedMobileAccess] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4910
[19:28:52] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: preilly; [mediawiki/extensions/ZeroRatedMobileAccess] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4910
[19:29:31] <chughakshay16>	 hashar, hi,
[19:29:41] <chughakshay16>	 hashar,just when i needed u appeared.. :)
[19:29:46] <hashar>	 hello
[19:29:53] <codurr>	 03awjrichards * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114886> 10/branches/wmf/1.19wmf1/extensions/MobileFrontend/DeviceDetection.php: Picking up missing changes from previous merge
[19:30:01] <hashar>	 I am not there technically though I can answer if that is not going to take me an hour :-]
[19:30:18] <hashar>	 chughakshay16: go ahead :)
[19:30:43] <chughakshay16>	 hashar,i m trying to submit a new patchset... but sort of confused with what my git bash is currently showing me..
[19:31:16] <hashar>	 what does it gives you?
[19:31:32] <chughakshay16>	 hashar,http://dpaste.com/731323/
[19:32:28] <hashar>	 ok first tip
[19:32:40] <chughakshay16>	 hashar,before doing git review -d 3981.. i did 'git pull origin master' and git rebase
[19:32:44] <hashar>	 instead of having to enter your password every time, you could use ssh-agent
[19:32:59] <hashar>	 it is a little daemon that magically remembers your unencrypted key :-]
[19:33:08] <chughakshay16>	 hashar,yeah i am aware of it .. just forgot to do it this time :)
[19:33:09] <hashar>	 so you only have to enter your password once per session :)
[19:33:13] <hashar>	 kk
[19:33:20] <sumanah>	 RoanKattouw_away: I have a question for you re Berlin
[19:33:21] <joancreus>	 hi. could anyone check whether i have a git account? is it jcreus (the "your preferred shell name"), or the wiki name?
[19:33:35] <hashar>	 so the problem you are facing here is that you already did   git review -d 3981 at one time
[19:34:01] <chughakshay16>	 hashar,but before doing it i did 'git pull origin master' and 'git rebase'..
[19:34:27] <awjr>	 AaronSchulz: do you know if it's safe to run scap? the other usual suspects to ask do not seem to be around
[19:34:41] <hashar>	 chughakshay16: that irrelevant.  git pull origin master  fetch 'master' from origin and then merge it.  git rebase put whatever you have on top of master
[19:34:58] <hashar>	 chughakshay16: but the 'review/chughakshay16/bug/21119' branch is still around
[19:35:07] <chughakshay16>	 hashar, when i do git review -d 3981 ... does it mean that i will get the changes that you made in patchset 4 ?
[19:35:29] <hashar>	 chughakshay16: yes it will
[19:35:50] <chughakshay16>	 hashar,but my working code doesnt reflect that !!
[19:35:52] <hashar>	 chughakshay16: look at the branch you currently have locally with git branch
[19:36:28] <chughakshay16>	 hashar,it still shows me the changes that I made in patchset 3 but not what u did in patchset 4
[19:36:42] <hashar>	 yeah cause you need to fetch them
[19:37:08] <chughakshay16>	 hashar,so doesnt git review -d 3981 fetch it for me ?
[19:37:32] <hashar>	 it will, but it is blocked because there is already a local branch named review/chughakshay16/bug/21119
[19:37:38] <hashar>	 git-review sucks on that point :/
[19:38:29] <hashar>	 you should delete that branch but I am not sure how to check if it has local change
[19:38:35] <chughakshay16>	 hashar, so now i did this http://dpaste.com/731327/
[19:39:23] <sumanah>	 I need to go, sorry... see you all Monday
[19:39:58] <codurr>	 03awjrichards * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114887> 10/branches/wmf/1.19wmf1/extensions/MobileFrontend/stylesheets/images/blank.gif: Picking up blank gif
[19:40:03] <hashar>	 chughakshay16: bug21119 is probably your original branch
[19:40:09] <chughakshay16>	 hashar, yes
[19:40:27] <chughakshay16>	 hashar,this is from where i submitted my previous patchsets..
[19:40:29] <hashar>	 so we could use that to verify there is no specific change in the review/chu..bug/21119 branch
[19:40:30] <hashar>	 git diff bug21119 review/chughakshay16/bug/21119
[19:40:35] <hashar>	 that should give you an empty output
[19:40:50] <hashar>	 both being the same I think
[19:42:04] <chughakshay16>	 hashar, no it doesnt give me an empty output.
[19:42:37] <hashar>	 well maybe they have different parents or something
[19:42:47] <chughakshay16>	 hashar , :)
[19:43:06] <chughakshay16>	 hashar, what do i need to make it work again.. ?
[19:43:08] <hashar>	 anyway  I am maybe too paranoid
[19:43:33] <hashar>	 to play it safe.  rename review/chughakshay16/bug/21119  with :  git branch -m review/chughakshay16/bug/21119 bug21119-patchset3
[19:43:43] <hashar>	 then you will be able to  git-review -d   again
[19:43:54] <hashar>	 'git branch -m' is used to rename a branch
[19:43:59] <chughakshay16>	 hashar,okay will try that out..
[19:45:01] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Hashar; "(bug 21119) link to toggle hidden categories" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/3981
[19:45:05] <hashar>	 chughakshay16: there must be an easy way to just refresh with the latest patchset
[19:45:11] <hashar>	 oops
[19:45:24] <hashar>	 chughakshay16: I have rebased your change by error :-∏
[19:45:58] <chughakshay16>	 hashar, what does that mean :S
[19:46:02] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Hashar; "Patchset 5 is a rebased I have sent by mistake. sorry." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/3981
[19:46:10] <chughakshay16>	 hashar,:)
[19:46:17] <hashar>	 I downloaded 3981  and entered  "git-review" by mistake
[19:46:19] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/3981
[19:46:24] <hashar>	 which sent the patch :-D
[19:46:48] <joancreus>	 how long does it take for the ssh keys to update?
[19:46:59] <joancreus>	 i've added some and i get permission denied publickey
[19:47:04] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) iPhone 3G is slow at saving articles - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35953 normal; Wikipedia App: Save Article; (tfinc)
[19:47:21] <hashar>	 joancreus: on labs I think it is refreshed every minute
[19:47:27] <chughakshay16>	 hashar, so shall i continue with what u suggested me earlier about renaming a branch.. ? :)
[19:47:41] <hashar>	 chughakshay16: yeah rename the branch just to be sure you are not going to loose anything
[19:47:48] <chughakshay16>	 hashar,okay
[19:48:20] <joancreus>	 ok
[19:48:27] <hashar>	 though if its commit sha1 is 7f42ec6754bdc6442fcaaa19284ad554af11404b  it is indeed patchset 3
[19:48:44] <hashar>	 so you could probably delete it
[19:48:55] <hashar>	 joancreus: do you have the issue with Gerrit ?
[19:49:11] <joancreus>	 yes...
[19:49:47] <hashar>	 chughakshay16: anyway once you have renamed or delete that local branch, git-review will be able to create a new one named the same way.  as powerful as git is, it does not support multi branches sharing the same name :-]
[19:49:51] <joancreus>	 hashar: Permission denied (publickey).
[19:50:03] <robla>	 AaronSchulz: can you join #wikimedia-dev
[19:50:59] <chughakshay16>	 hashar,this is what i get when i rename the branch - http://dpaste.com/731334/
[19:51:13] <chughakshay16>	 hashar,and it definitely deosnt look good
[19:51:17] <chughakshay16>	 hashar,:|
[19:51:33] <hashar>	 joancreus: make sure you are using the correct username
[19:52:05] <hashar>	 chughakshay16: looks like you already have renamed / copied the branch :-D
[19:52:07] <joancreus>	 hashar: wiki one, or shell one?
[19:52:23] <joancreus>	 it no longer works for my new ssh-keygen pair
[19:52:31] <joancreus>	 even adding it to labsconsole
[19:52:41] <chughakshay16>	 hashar,so should i just go ahead with git review - d 3981 ?
[19:52:56] <saper>	 joancreus: how do you load your new keypair?
[19:52:57] <hashar>	 chughakshay16: yeah delete the local branch review/chug ../bug/12314
[19:53:06] <joancreus>	 saper: https://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:NovaKey
[19:53:08] <joancreus>	 here
[19:53:11] <hashar>	 chughakshay16: then git-review -d 3981 will be able to create the local branch
[19:53:15] <Beau_>	 Why some log messages on irc feed are in english and some are localized?
[19:53:27] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) WikiLove tab "heart" icon is low-resolution - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35334  +comment (10Brion Vibber)
[19:53:39] <hashar>	 Beau_: I think that is for back compatibility with some IRC bots
[19:54:00] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) update.php throws "Call to undefined method DatabasePostgres::realTableName()" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35927  +comment (10Tim Landscheidt)
[19:54:03] <Beau_>	 hashar: for back compatibility? and if bot parsed localized text?
[19:54:04] <hashar>	 Beau_: or maybe some messages are not localized
[19:54:46] <chughakshay16>	 hashar,u want me to delete the local or the remote branch or both ?
[19:55:08] <hashar>	 chughakshay16: the local one:   git branch -D review/chughakshay16/bug/21119
[19:55:14] <chughakshay16>	 okay
[19:56:24] <Beau_>	 hashar: if for irc are different messages from the ones shown on Special:Log, then they may not be translated
[19:56:48] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Ryan Lane; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/OpenStackManager] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4838
[19:56:50] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Ryan Lane; [mediawiki/extensions/OpenStackManager] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4838
[19:57:51] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Enable ip v. 6 on labs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35947  +comment (10Jasper Deng)
[19:59:18] <hashar>	 chughakshay16: ok git-review has a bug :-]
[19:59:29] <hashar>	 chughakshay16: it should be reusing the branch but does not 
[19:59:37] <hashar>	 chughakshay16: I am writing a patch for upstream
[19:59:39] <joancreus>	 saper: hashar , still no luck with ssh keys... ideas? it must be that username because it worked *until* a new ssh-keygen, which i've added to labsconsole
[20:00:08] <hashar>	 joancreus: the username is the shell one, all lower case IIRC
[20:00:21] <hashar>	 joancreus: double check that you send your public key, not the private one
[20:00:28] <joancreus>	 yes... it must be that username
[20:00:37] <joancreus>	 i've also sent id_rsa.pub
[20:00:43] <joancreus>	 so, afaik all ok
[20:00:50] <hashar>	 joancreus: and no gerrit access ? : /
[20:00:59] <joancreus>	 directly, no ssh access
[20:01:07] <joancreus>	 i've checked 
[20:01:09] <joancreus>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Workflow#SSH_and_.22permission_denied_.28publickey.29.22
[20:01:18] <wikibugs>	 14(DUP) error from UW seen in commons and local install: "Unknown error:unknown" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35262  +comment (10Chris McMahon)
[20:01:18] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) handle upload filesize > maxfilesize gracefully - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35916  +comment (10Chris McMahon)
[20:03:43] <hashar>	 joancreus: I am sorry, but please ask in #wikimedia-labs . I am too busy with other stuff right  now :/
[20:03:53] <saper>	 joancreus: are you using ssh agent?
[20:03:56] <joancreus>	 ok
[20:04:02] <joancreus>	 yes, saper 
[20:04:15] <saper>	 so, you have now .ssh/id_rsa and .ssh/id_rsa.pub
[20:04:20] <saper>	 more files in .ssh?
[20:04:52] <joancreus>	 saper: that's the reuslt of ls .ssh => id_rsa  id_rsa.pub  known_hosts  known_hosts.old
[20:05:24] <chughakshay16>	 hashar, i did as u told , got the patchset 4 which u submitted .. but now when i run git review -R
[20:05:25] <saper>	 I wonder why you needed a new key
[20:05:38] <chughakshay16>	 hashar,it gives me a whole bunch of commits that i never made
[20:06:07] <saper>	 joancreus: and what does "ssh-add -l" say?
[20:06:27] <saper>	 joancreus: can you give the id_rsa.pub somewhere? I'll check if it works for some other site.
[20:06:35] <joancreus>	 ok
[20:06:50] <hashar>	 chughakshay16: what does "git remote" output to you?
[20:06:55] <saper>	 (the public, not the private one)
[20:07:48] <joancreus>	 saper: i'll try w/ github
[20:07:52] <chughakshay16>	 hashar,but at this point its asking me whether to commit or not ? what should i do ?
[20:07:58] <saper>	 hashar: he got something like wrong upstream branch (if he's working on a branch it should be in .gitreview as "defaultbranch" - if using new git-review or specified on command line)
[20:07:59] <YuviPanda>	 Platonides: be careful what you wish for because you just might get it.
[20:08:05] <saper>	 joancreus: good idea
[20:08:06] <hashar>	 chughakshay16: abort :-]
[20:08:07] <YuviPanda>	 imagine a 'genetic algorithm' in wikitext+parser functions
[20:08:19] <saper>	 joancreus: or any plain ssh server
[20:08:25] <joancreus>	 for github, it does work saper 
[20:08:42] <joancreus>	 i'll delete and try again ;)
[20:08:43] <chughakshay16>	 hashar,i aborted.. okay so now what?? :)
[20:08:45] <hashar>	 saper: yeah that seems to be an issue with a new version of git-review. Somehow git-review use the 'gerrit' remote which might be lagging behind
[20:08:50] <joancreus>	 i was copying from vi, maybe from cat better?
[20:08:50] <saper>	 joancreus: so I think you have to bug someone who can do LDAP/labs stuff/whatever
[20:08:53] <hashar>	 saper: and people try to submit their change based on 'origin'
[20:09:00] <hashar>	 chughakshay16: git remote
[20:09:21] <chughakshay16>	 hashar,$ git r
[20:09:21] <chughakshay16>	 gerrit
[20:09:21] <chughakshay16>	 origin
[20:09:23] <saper>	 hashar: it always created "gerrit" for you; now with -r you can ask for a different remote name 
[20:09:43] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) WikiLove tab "heart" icon is low-resolution - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35334  +comment (10Ryan Kaldari)
[20:09:47] <joancreus>	 argh, no luck
[20:09:50] <joancreus>	 i'll ask in wikimedia-labs
[20:09:52] <hashar>	 saper: so Nikerabbit , ^demon RoanKattouw and now chughakshay16 are cursed by the bug :-D
[20:09:59] <hashar>	 that is a somehow nasty issue
[20:09:59] <saper>	 hashar: what do you mean "might be lagging behind"? like people doing "git pull" and no "git fetch --all"?
[20:10:16] <hashar>	 chughakshay16: you need to delete the 'origin' remote repository. That is exactly the same as the one named 'gerrit'
[20:10:37] <chughakshay16>	 hashar, okay doing it
[20:10:39] <hashar>	 chughakshay16: git-review uses  the one named 'gerrit' but by default git pull origin master  only update the 'origin' repo
[20:10:49] <hashar>	 chughakshay16: git remote rm origin
[20:10:50] <RoanKattouw>	 "git fetch gerrit" is what you can run to fix it
[20:11:04] <hashar>	 chughakshay16: then update gerrit :  "git remote update"  or  "git fetch gerrit"
[20:11:23] <hashar>	 saper: exactly. most people only do  git pull , or git pull origin
[20:11:28] <saper>	 hashar: strange... git-review pretty much always created this remote... now it checks at least "origin" if "gerrit" (or -r whatever) is not found
[20:11:44] <saper>	 hashar: ok I'll check one thing
[20:11:53] <hashar>	 saper: so we should set  defaultremote to 'origin' in our .gitreview files 
[20:11:59] <Nikerabbit>	 hashar: I filed bug for it
[20:12:12] <saper>	 Nikerabbit: in the launchpad ?
[20:12:14] <chughakshay16>	 hashar,done..
[20:12:24] <hashar>	 saper: the issue is when people have both 'origin' and 'gerrit' but do not update gerrit
[20:12:30] <Nikerabbit>	 saper: launchpad? in our bugzilla
[20:12:33] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Bsitu; "Fix duplicated code" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4913
[20:12:37] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Bsitu; "(bug 33214) catch exceptions in ApiFeedContributions" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/3328
[20:12:38] <joancreus>	 oh dear saper . i was adding it to labsconsole, it wasn't replicated at gerrit
[20:12:52] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Inter-project links into <ref> do not work when alternative text is empty - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35954 normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (lambdav)
[20:12:53] <hashar>	 chughakshay16: so now you can fetch changes from the 'gerrit' remote by using git fetch gerrit.  Then try to submit your patch again :-]
[20:12:56] <joancreus>	 sorry for taking your time, thanks for your patience!
[20:12:56] <saper>	 hashar: but to my best knowledge, it always created gerrit before ... 
[20:13:02] <saper>	 joancreus: oooh ... ask Ryan_Lane1 
[20:13:03] <hashar>	 saper: indeed
[20:13:27] <hashar>	 saper: so lot of people have a 'gerrit' remote and an 'origin' one
[20:13:31] <chughakshay16>	 hashar, dont i need to do git review -d 3981 after git fetch gerrit ?
[20:13:50] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4913
[20:14:12] <saper>	 hashar: do you have the commit ID of the "current" git-review? I think they released new version with "our" stuff
[20:15:01] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/3328
[20:15:10] <hashar>	 saper: 1.16 should be da19131
[20:15:19] <saper>	 da1913170223c88000e7bb7cc2d31bb872c777df
[20:15:21] <saper>	 right thanks
[20:15:27] <chughakshay16>	 hashar, but i would still need to do git review -d 3981 before submitting my patch... right ?
[20:19:04] <saper>	 hashar: 76b9b8695dae8f4490ace48359e55dab94445c7c I did didn't change branch creation logic at all
[20:19:12] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Chughakshay16; "(bug 21119) link to toggle hidden categories" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/3981
[20:19:16] <saper>	 I just added "-r" option to use something else
[20:19:48] <codurr>	 03awjrichards * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114888> 10/branches/wmf/1.19wmf1/extensions/MobileFrontend/ (16 files in 6 dirs): Revert r114885, r114886, r114887
[20:20:26] <saper>	 Nikerabbit: do you have bug# at hand?
[20:20:28] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/3981
[20:20:55] <hashar>	 chughakshay16: it depends. But usually yes you want to download the patch from gerrit with  -d 1234
[20:21:07] <hashar>	 chughakshay16: this way you are sure to use the latest version
[20:21:08] <chughakshay16>	 hashar,i submitted my patchset ..
[20:21:15] <chughakshay16>	 hashar,:)
[20:21:21] <chughakshay16>	 hashar, it worked..
[20:21:32] <hashar>	 saper: that might be an unrelated change.  Anyway I am not cursed by it since I only have a 'gerrit' remote
[20:21:37] <hashar>	 chughakshay16: you are a hero!!!
[20:21:57] <hashar>	 saper: easy patch for you : https://review.openstack.org/6536  :-D
[20:22:31] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) wikimedia-l is unavailable in gmane - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35955 normal; Wikimedia: Mailing lists; (srik.lak)
[20:22:33] <chughakshay16>	 hashar, this issue has been bugging me for the past two days.. now its over
[20:22:50] <hashar>	 yeah lot of people have been cursed by that issue :/
[20:22:59] <hashar>	 although it is an easy one :-]
[20:23:13] <chughakshay16>	 hashar, atleast now i will have a good night sleep :)
[20:23:25] <chughakshay16>	 *now i can have
[20:23:39] <chughakshay16>	 hashar, thanks so much !
[20:24:33] <saper>	 hashar: I don't like MediaWiki paren style in python :) -1
[20:25:03] <hashar>	 saper: :-)
[20:26:06] <chughakshay16>	 hashar, what do i need to do difference from what is given on the gerrit workflow page,, so that i dont get into this trouble again..
[20:26:10] <chughakshay16>	 hashar,?
[20:26:19] <chughakshay16>	 *different
[20:27:17] <hashar>	 your issue is fixed :D
[20:27:25] <hashar>	 since you now have only one remote named gerrit
[20:28:10] <chughakshay16>	 hashar,so from next time onwards i would just have to do whats given on that gerrit workflow page.. ?
[20:28:28] <joancreus>	 hashar: sorry to ask again. i git clone'd without username & password. when i try to push, i get authentication failed. is this related? should i clone again? thanks
[20:29:02] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Change sitename for Ts�ts�h�st�hese Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35956 enhancement; MediaWiki: Internationalization; (lebo.beland)
[20:29:49] <joancreus>	 i'll change the remote url
[20:29:51] <joancreus>	 let's see
[20:29:53] <wikibugs>	 03(FIXED) "Share to Wiktionary" is confusing. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35103  (10Patrick Hayes)
[20:31:43] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) App error page should say which page couldn't be found - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35957 normal; Wiktionary App: Wiktionary; (pfhayes)
[20:31:53] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) App error page should say which page couldn't be found - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35957  (10Patrick Hayes)
[20:33:42] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Sharing capitalized pages doesn't work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35958 normal; Wiktionary App: Wiktionary; (pfhayes)
[20:34:06] <hashar>	 chughakshay16: yes you should be fine now
[20:34:16] <hashar>	 chughakshay16: I have posted a message on wikitech-l about your issue
[20:34:31] <codurr>	 03awjrichards * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114889> 10/branches/wmf/1.19wmf1/extensions/MobileFrontend/MobileFrontend.body.php: Picking up fix for bug 35940
[20:34:36] <hashar>	 joancreus: look at 'git remote -v'
[20:34:50] <hashar>	 joancreus: -v for 'verbose', that will give you the URL associated with the remote name
[20:35:08] <hashar>	 joancreus: you can not push to an https://  URL, you need a  ssh:// one :-]
[20:35:53] <hashar>	 joancreus: you can alter a remote URL by using:  git remote set-url <name of repo> <newurl>
[20:36:26] <saper>	 hashar: do we have now "defaultremote" in our .gitreview files?
[20:36:34] <joancreus>	 done!
[20:36:35] <hashar>	 saper: now
[20:36:39] <joancreus>	 hashar: you're a hero :D
[20:36:41] <hashar>	 saper: need to talk about it with ^demon 
[20:36:52] <joancreus>	 and amongst the most patient in the world. thanks a lot
[20:36:54] <saper>	 hashar: it's fine to work without it
[20:36:54] <hashar>	 joancreus: well I am just supporting the real heroes
[20:37:04] <hashar>	 joancreus: which are all the volunteers around here :-]
[20:37:14] <joancreus>	 core.git => not a gerrit project
[20:37:27] <hashar>	 saper: I think we should use  default remote = origin  , that will avoid some drama.
[20:38:05] <saper>	 well not really
[20:38:09] <joancreus>	 hashar: i used that url => ssh://jcreus@gerrit.wikimedia.org:29418/core.git
[20:38:12] <saper>	 I think we should not use it at all
[20:38:21] <joancreus>	 and it tells me core.git is not a gerrit project
[20:38:21] <saper>	 git-review should find out by itself
[20:38:24] <^demon>	 joancreus: 29418/mediawiki/core.git
[20:38:28] <joancreus>	 oh
[20:38:29] <joancreus>	 ok
[20:38:48] <saper>	 it's only meant for weirdos like me who prefer "review" as the remote 
[20:39:06] <saper>	 need to check if behaviour really changed
[20:39:21] <joancreus>	 ! [remote rejected] master -> master (prohibited by Gerrit)
[20:39:25] <joancreus>	 i was working on master
[20:39:34] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) WikiLove tab "heart" icon is low-resolution - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35334  +comment (10Brion Vibber)
[20:39:43] <joancreus>	 on git, how to move commited things to a branch?
[20:40:02] <^demon>	 joancreus: Did you `git push origin master?`
[20:40:13] <^demon>	 saper: I'm actually hating git-review the more I use it. The only thing I find it useful for it `git review -s` and `git review -d 123`. I never use `git review` anymore.
[20:40:32] <joancreus>	 ^demon: yes
[20:40:44] <^demon>	 joancreus: You can't do that, we don't push to master. We push to a ref called refs/for/master. So a full commit is `git push origin HEAD:refs/for/master`
[20:40:46] <^demon>	 You can alias it.
[20:40:52] <joancreus>	 ok
[20:41:06] <^demon>	 s/commit/push/
[20:41:24] * hashar  dance

[20:42:17] <^demon>	 I feel like git-review would be so much more useful if it didn't *rely* on .gitreview files so much.
[20:42:37] <hashar>	 we could probably make it more automatic
[20:43:00] <^demon>	 I mean hell, it's not exactly rocket science. We could write one that does *exactly* what we want it to.
[20:43:05] <joancreus>	 ^demon: ! [remote rejected] HEAD -> refs/for/master (missing Change-Id in commit message . when i git commit'ed, i put a message...
[20:43:16] <^demon>	 hashar: $wheels++;
[20:43:43] <hashar>	 ahh that Change-Id
[20:43:52] <hashar>	 can't we ship the commit hook automatically ?
[20:44:06] <^demon>	 If there's a way, I haven't figured it out.
[20:44:46] <joancreus>	 what do i have to do manually, so?
[20:44:48] <hashar>	 one thing we could look at is  git-flow  https://github.com/nvie/gitflow
[20:44:56] <hashar>	 that is on my loooong todo list :/
[20:45:20] <hashar>	 still not interacting with gerrit
[20:45:27] <hashar>	 OR, we drop gerrit :-D
[20:46:30] <^demon>	 joancreus: Copy that changeid the error gave you, run `git commit --amend` and put "Change-Id: {ID YOU COPIED}" below your commit summary.
[20:46:33] <^demon>	 Then push again.
[20:46:42] <hashar>	 so now I am going to bed of real. See you later.
[20:46:50] <hashar>	 and please be nice with Chad!
[20:46:54] <^demon>	 joancreus: And then read the workflow document, you need to download a commit hook so it does that automatically for you.
[20:47:41] <^demon>	 joancreus: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#change,1234 - see how it has a change-id?
[20:47:45] <enomil>	 is there a way to add local css for the mobile version (*.m.wiki*.org)?
[20:48:32] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Git review trying to push old commits - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35951  +comment (10Marcin Cieślak)
[20:48:41] <wikibugs>	 03(UNCONFIRMED) Git review trying to push old commits - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35951  (10Marcin Cieślak)
[20:48:44] <joancreus>	 ok
[20:49:01] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Bsitu; "(bug 33214) catch exceptions in ApiFeedContributions" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/3328
[20:49:46] <codurr>	 New code comment: MaxSem; Now it's broken on WMF: [[User:MaxSem/sandbox]].; <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/113190#c32669>
[20:50:13] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) search results unusable when scrolled - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35959 major; Wiktionary App: Wiktionary; (cmcmahon)
[20:50:18] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/3328
[20:52:17] <joancreus>	 bye
[21:00:00] <Nikerabbit>	 saper: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35951
[21:00:26] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Enable ip v. 6 on labs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35947  +comment (10Ryan Lane)
[21:08:58] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Git review trying to push old commits - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35951  +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[21:10:17] <Guest3357>	 Hi, all, I am maintainer of two Mediawiki Extensions called GeoGebra and FormelApplet. I was told to move them from MediaWiki into Gerrit.
[21:11:26] <Guest3357>	 Who would be so good and create two projects for my extensions inside gerrit?
[21:15:43] <Guest3357>	 Who may I ask to create two projects inside Gerrit for my existing MediaWiki extensions?
[21:20:10] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Pre-upload thumbnail shows spinner, never finishes on Windows 8 Consumer Preview / IE 10 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35870  +comment (10Brion Vibber)
[21:22:02] <codurr>	 03kaldari * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114890> 10/trunk/extensions/PageTriage/sql/PageTriageTimestamps.patch.sql: follow-up to r114884 - including the patch file
[21:23:31] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) add config varible to hide incubator test wikipedia langlinks on wikipedia projects by default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35960 major; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataClient; (bugreporter)
[21:25:18] <codurr>	 03kaldari * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114891> 10/trunk/extensions/PageTriage/api/ApiPageTriageList.php: Set svn:keywords property to Id
[21:26:01] <codurr>	 New code comment: Kaldari; well, that didn't work.; <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114891#c32670>
[21:37:07] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Robmoen; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4825
[21:37:09] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Robmoen; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4825
[21:48:38] <codurr>	 03awjrichards * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114892> 10/trunk/tools/gerrit-dippybird/dippy-bird.php: s/gerrit approve/gerrit review/
[21:54:39] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Brion VIBBER; "* (bug 35334) Fix pre-upload preview on IE 10 for Special:Upload" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4924
[21:55:56] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4924
[21:56:24] <wikibugs>	 03(ASSIGNED) WikiLove tab "heart" icon is low-resolution - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35334  +comment (10Brion Vibber)
[21:57:04] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) WikiLove tab "heart" icon is low-resolution - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35334  +comment (10Brion Vibber)
[21:57:22] <wikibugs>	 03(ASSIGNED) Pre-upload thumbnail shows spinner, never finishes on Windows 8 Consumer Preview / IE 10 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35870  +comment (10Brion Vibber)
[21:57:26] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Test that clicktracking is collecting the data we need - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32992  +comment (10Dario Taraborelli)
[21:59:22] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Brion VIBBER; "* (bug 35870) Fix pre-upload preview on IE 10 for Special:Upload" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4924
[22:00:39] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4924
[22:01:08] <wikibugs>	 03(ASSIGNED) Sharing capitalized pages doesn't work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35958  +comment (10Patrick Hayes)
[22:02:08] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Sharing capitalized pages doesn't work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35958  +comment (10Dale Lemieux)
[22:03:18] <codurr>	 03awjrichards * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114893> 10/trunk/tools/gerrit-dippybird/dippy-bird.php: Abstracted 'git review' stuff into a new method, gerritReviewWrapper in perparation for adding capacity for other gerrit review options (eg abandon)
[22:04:41] <codurr>	 03awjrichards * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114894> 10/trunk/tools/gerrit-dippybird/dippy-bird.php: Run stylize.php on dippybird
[22:05:27] <codurr>	 03awjrichards * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114895> 10/trunk/tools/gerrit-dippybird/dippy-bird.php: Renamed 'run' method -> 'dip'
[22:08:39] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Sharing capitalized pages doesn't work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35958  +comment (10Dale Lemieux)
[22:11:22] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Brion VIBBER; "* (bug 35870) Fix pre-upload preview on IE 10 for Special:Upload" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4924
[22:12:39] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4924
[22:12:40] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Brion VIBBER; "(bug 35870) Fix pre-upload preview on IE 10 for Special:UploadWizard" [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4926
[22:13:23] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Pre-upload thumbnail shows spinner, never finishes on Windows 8 Consumer Preview / IE 10 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35870  +comment (10Brion Vibber)
[22:14:16] <codurr>	 03kaldari * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114896> 10/trunk/extensions/PageTriage/api/ApiPageTriageList.php: adding missing newline
[22:15:16] <codurr>	 New code comment: Kaldari; actually, I guess it did.; <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114891#c32671>
[22:16:04] <codurr>	 03kaldari * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114897> 10/trunk/extensions/PageTriage/api/ApiPageTriageGetMetadata.php: adding svn:keywork Id to ApiPageTriageGetMetadata.php
[22:16:47] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Nikerabbit; "Fix PHP notices about undefined indexes" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4927
[22:17:16] <codurr>	 New code comment: Kaldari; Id added in r114897.; <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/113451#c32672>
[22:17:42] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Enable ip v. 6 on labs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35947  +comment (10Jasper Deng)
[22:18:29] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Nikerabbit; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4927
[22:18:32] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Nikerabbit; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4927
[22:20:46] <codurr>	 New code comment: Platonides; It did.; <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114891#c32673>
[22:21:28] <wikibugs>	 03(ASSIGNED) App error page should say which page couldn't be found - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35957  +comment (10Patrick Hayes)
[22:23:36] <codurr>	 03awjrichards * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114898> 10/trunk/tools/gerrit-dippybird/dippy-bird.php: Added some method docs, added executeAbandon() method, now using --verified=+1 notation for submit
[22:24:38] * AaronSchulz  finishes backend config in a txt file

[22:24:49] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) SMW: Crash in runJobs.php if _LEDT is enabled because Title::getLatestRevID returns zero for existing page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35962 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; (van.de.bugger)
[22:25:17] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) SMW: Crash in runJobs.php if _LEDT is enabled because Title::getLatestRevID returns zero for existing page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35962   +need-review +patch (10Van de Bugger)
[22:30:05] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Sharing capitalized pages doesn't work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35958  +comment (10Patrick Hayes)
[22:37:10] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Launching Wiktionary from URL doesn't work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35963 normal; Wiktionary App: Wiktionary; (pfhayes)
[22:37:23] <wikibugs>	 03(ASSIGNED) Launching Wiktionary from URL doesn't work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35963  (10Patrick Hayes)
[22:42:40] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: awjrichards; "another change" [test/mediawiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4928
[22:43:33] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: awjrichards; "test change" [test/mediawiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4929
[22:44:45] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: awjrichards; "Adding dadip for testing" [test/mediawiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4930
[22:44:45] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: awjrichards; "another change" [test/mediawiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4931
[22:44:46] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: awjrichards; "Adding .gitreview" [test/mediawiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4932
[22:45:06] <codurr>	 03laner * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114899> 10/trunk/tools/subversion/user-management/ (manage-exports manage-volumes): Changing OU for projects
[22:45:07] <wikibugs>	 03(FIXED) Langage list has lots of white space while scrolling - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35779  +comment (10Yuvi Panda)
[22:47:32] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: awjrichards; "(no comment)" [test/mediawiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4932
[22:47:33] <gerrit-wm>	 Change abandoned: awjrichards; "(no reason)" [test/mediawiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4932
[22:47:36] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: awjrichards; "(no comment)" [test/mediawiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4931
[22:47:37] <gerrit-wm>	 Change abandoned: awjrichards; "(no reason)" [test/mediawiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4931
[22:47:39] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: awjrichards; "(no comment)" [test/mediawiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4930
[22:47:40] <gerrit-wm>	 Change abandoned: awjrichards; "(no reason)" [test/mediawiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4930
[22:47:43] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: awjrichards; "(no comment)" [test/mediawiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4929
[22:47:44] <gerrit-wm>	 Change abandoned: awjrichards; "(no reason)" [test/mediawiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4929
[22:47:46] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: awjrichards; "(no comment)" [test/mediawiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4928
[22:47:47] <gerrit-wm>	 Change abandoned: awjrichards; "(no reason)" [test/mediawiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4928
[22:48:24] <codurr>	 03awjrichards * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114900> 10/trunk/tools/gerrit-dippybird/dippy-bird.php: Added 'abandon' action to documentation
[22:50:51] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: awjrichards; "(no comment)" [test/mediawiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4932
[22:50:52] <gerrit-wm>	 Change restored: awjrichards; "(no reason)" [test/mediawiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4932
[22:50:54] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: awjrichards; "(no comment)" [test/mediawiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4931
[22:50:55] <gerrit-wm>	 Change restored: awjrichards; "(no reason)" [test/mediawiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4931
[22:50:58] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: awjrichards; "(no comment)" [test/mediawiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4930
[22:50:59] <gerrit-wm>	 Change restored: awjrichards; "(no reason)" [test/mediawiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4930
[22:51:01] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Warnings (probably errors) in PostgresUpdater.php for AbuseFilter installation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35964 normal; MediaWiki: Database; (tim)
[22:51:02] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: awjrichards; "(no comment)" [test/mediawiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4929
[22:51:03] <gerrit-wm>	 Change restored: awjrichards; "(no reason)" [test/mediawiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4929
[22:51:05] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: awjrichards; "(no comment)" [test/mediawiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4928
[22:51:06] <gerrit-wm>	 Change restored: awjrichards; "(no reason)" [test/mediawiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4928
[22:51:34] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Warnings (probably errors) in PostgresUpdater.php for AbuseFilter installation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35964   +postgresql (10Tim Landscheidt)
[22:52:02] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Brion VIBBER; "Support chunked uploads in IE 10" [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4935
[22:52:05] <codurr>	 03awjrichards * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114901> 10/trunk/tools/gerrit-dippybird/dippy-bird.php: Added support for gerrit review --restore
[22:55:10] <YuviPanda>	 MaxSem: action=parse&prop=images can be considered 'definitive', right? I don't have to wonder if some images are missing? (Including ones from templates)?
[22:55:42] <MaxSem>	 mmm
[23:00:50] <MaxSem>	 YuviPanda, quick experiment indicates that it returns broken images too
[23:01:29] <MaxSem>	 YuviPanda, why do you need to query images from app?
[23:01:48] <YuviPanda>	 MaxSem: so, 'save page' is being re-written to work with the API
[23:02:00] <MaxSem>	 huh
[23:02:05] <YuviPanda>	 i'm just figuring out different ways to pick up the images from the content to be saved
[23:02:53] <YuviPanda>	 i could just iterate over the html with a regex, but that sounds a bit too hacky. And we're trying to avoid putting things into DOM unnecessarily...
[23:03:01] <YuviPanda>	 so was just checking. Don't know if i'll actually use it
[23:04:00] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Langage list has lots of white space while scrolling - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35779  +comment (10Yuvi Panda)
[23:04:29] <codurr>	 03laner * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114902> 10/trunk/tools/subversion/user-management/manage-exports: Group names are prefixed now
[23:05:16] <MaxSem>	 YuviPanda, lemme see if I can tweak API for that
[23:06:09] <YuviPanda>	 MaxSem: :) Something that can reliably return 'all media' would be nice :)
[23:28:41] <codurr>	 03ning * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114903> 10/trunk/extensions/WikiObjectModel/includes/parsers/WOMListItemParser.php: bug fix, list item inside template, pipe line will be parsed as list item text
[23:45:33] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) handle upload filesize > maxfilesize gracefully - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35916  +comment (10Neil Kandalgaonkar)
[23:47:17] <wikibugs>	 03(FIXED) Add message documentation for messages added in gerrit ref 3320 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35517  +comment (10Aaron Schulz)
[23:48:41] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Make File.php write files to Swift in production on transformation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35952  summary (10Aaron Schulz)
[23:51:32] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Migrate Wikipedia App to using action=parse&mobileformat=html instead of scraping mobile site - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35396  +comment (10Yuvi Panda)
[23:53:46] <codurr>	 New code comment: Kaldari; Should use doxygen comment style in PageTriage.hooks.php; <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/114419#c32675>