[00:05:50] 03(mod) Implement efficient way to select random page from specified category on Wikimedia wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/25931 +comment (10Asher Feldman) [00:09:16] New patchset: Reedy; "Update jQuery UI to 1.8.19" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/5939 [00:10:36] New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/5939 [00:20:18] funny ol' Reedy [00:28:40] https://ang.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hr%C4%93oh_2000 <- why doesn't this redirect work? [00:28:53] Is it the macron? [00:29:40] its talk page uses the same format and works [00:30:44] New patchset: Inez; "Added debounce static method from library underscore. We need/will need it in few places, at least in Surface view." [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/5940 [00:31:24] 03(NEW) Article Feedback Page - View Activity and Help link - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36283 normal; MediaWiki extensions: ArticleFeedbackv5; (fflorin) [00:33:41] 03(mod) Article Feedback Page - View Activity and Help link - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36283 +aftv5-1.5 (10Fabrice Florin) [00:41:14] 03(NEW) Allow entering other locations for "Nearby" article view - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36284 enhancement; Wikipedia App: Near by; (axelboldt) [00:52:28] Dantman: please finish up https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#change,4069 ;) [00:53:32] buuussyyy [01:00:01] remember when phones would make that annoying beep beep beep when the other line was in use because and voicemail wasn't really prevalent and you at least knew the other person was there, at the physical location? [01:00:07] busy. [01:04:28] 03(mod) Article Feedback Page Layout and "Look and Feel" Tweaks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36188 +comment (10Fabrice Florin) [01:04:35] Can someone please explain why https://ang.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hr%C4%93oh_2000 doesn't work, but https://ang.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geol does? [01:06:09] New patchset: Kaldari; "Fixing broken pokey in Explorer 7 and 8" [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/5941 [01:10:50] Amgine: I remember when Voicemail didn't exist and people had answering machines instead........ ;) In fact we're using one right now. [01:12:24] I used to use busy signals as a hack for detecting computers on modems, actually. [01:24:35] 03tstarling * 10/trunk/php/luasandbox/ (5 files in 2 dirs): [01:24:35] * Aggregate CPU usage for limit measurement across all calls against a given [01:24:35] sandbox object, instead of limiting per-call. Some interface changes were [01:24:35] required. Now the timer is stored in the sandbox object instead of the stack, [01:24:36] and it keeps track of its own limit settings. [01:24:37] * Provide LuaSandbox::getCPUUsage(), based on a separate timer so that it can run after the limits have expired, or if there are no limits set. [01:24:38] * Adjusted pcall.phpt to make new sandbox objects after a timeout [01:25:51] 03(mod) Implement efficient way to select random page from specified category on Wikimedia wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/25931 +comment (10Asher Feldman) [01:30:17] TimStarling: how is BagOStuff::replace() supposed to work? [01:31:59] it's meant to set a key only if there already is a value present for that key [01:32:05] same as in memcached [01:32:34] huh, sounds odd, I must be too used to sql [01:32:50] or MySql I should say [01:33:30] oh yeah, TimStarling: you were complete right in that last membase email about when you'd want to use add vs cas with memcached.. BagOStuff::replace == mc add? [01:34:08] BagOStuff::add() == mc add [01:34:31] the reason they're not documented there is because they are meant to be simulations of memcached client functions [01:34:57] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "Improved BagOStuff documentation and made some return value tweaks." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/5943 [01:34:57] see MWMemcached::add() and MWMemcached::replace() [01:36:17] New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/5943 [01:57:11] any ideas what the best way to go about having wiki changes pushed to a bot upon a new edit/creation would be? [01:59:23] superkabii: an irc bot? [02:00:20] Amgine, yup. [02:02:05] superkabii: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:IRC_RC_Bot [02:04:41] 03(mod) Odd session bugs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35900 +comment (10Tim Starling) [02:04:57] New review: Catrope; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/5929 [02:05:00] Change merged: Catrope; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/5929 [02:33:49] New review: Catrope; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/ProofreadPage] (master); V: 0 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4194 [02:44:37] hi Lydia_WMDE [03:00:15] 03(mod) Odd session bugs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35900 +comment (10Tim Starling) [03:08:21] Well, this is interesting: http://www.mkltesthead.com/2012/04/weekend-testing-on-march-5th-something.html shantanoo will you be participating? May 5th [03:09:16] hi TimStarling, how's your workday going? [03:09:23] Zaran: ping [03:09:26] fine [03:09:55] TimStarling: I haven't heard anything from GrafZahl about Score stuff, so I imagine you won't be duplicating work if you move forward on it today [03:10:23] I'm going to work on it after I'm done with bug 35900, which robla just asked me to look at [03:10:30] !b 25900 [03:10:30] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25900 [03:10:33] argh [03:10:57] ah yes, the session issue [03:11:07] ok, best wishes with the detective work [03:12:49] sumanah : I'm there [03:13:03] I've indeed seen your note, I haven't had time to reply yet [03:13:46] in short: even though I would really like to do what you asked, I'm a bit overwhelmed these days, I don't think it's reasonable to committing myself right now [03:14:01] Beau is doing a really awesome job these days [03:14:06] I think you should contact him [03:14:23] ok, good to know, Zaran - would you approve him getting Gerrit project ownership for the ProofreadPage extension? [03:14:42] Zaran: if so, nominate him at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Gerrit_project_ownership [03:14:43] if he agrees to, I think he would be the best person for it at the moment [03:15:21] the only problem is, he is not really used to mediawiki development, so his code might not be perfect [03:15:33] but I have the same problem anyway [03:16:27] We certainly have gotten a lot of patches recently! https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#q,project:mediawiki/extensions/ProofreadPage,n,z [03:17:00] Zaran: I see there are only 3 open ones right now https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#q,status:open+project:mediawiki/extensions/ProofreadPage,n,z [03:17:05] yeah as I said, thanks to him and Tpt the extension is doing really well these days [03:17:12] and you! [03:17:34] nah, I am doing only 1% of what I'd like to do.... :( [03:18:17] So I see that Aaron got to a bunch of patches today [03:18:24] and Roan to one [03:18:33] and Chad and Sam have also done a bit of merging [03:19:42] Zaran: when the new version gets deployed in a week or so, Wikisources will benefit! :D [03:19:43] hmm I have my laptop with me right now (where I have a mediawiki installed for ProofreadPage) I could try to review the remaining patches now [03:19:50] Zaran: go ahead! [03:19:59] Zaran: and do you have +2 power in Gerrit? I forget [03:20:15] sumanah : yeah, in the community everybody is so excited to see that they can get fixes for the bug they report in a time period of 2 weeks [03:20:26] you cannot imagine how happy people are in the French and English wikisource [03:20:36] sumanah: no I only have +1 power [03:20:51] Zaran: :D :D :D This is a wonderful benefit of our move to Git and our move to a more frequent deployment cycle [03:22:30] Zaran: remind me, are you coming to Wikimania, or the Berlin hackathon? [03:23:33] Hello? Can anyone at all tell me why https://ang.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hr%C4%93oh_2000 is broken but https://ang.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geol works (redirects)? [03:24:24] PiRSquared: I fixed it [03:24:42] still broken from here [03:24:50] hmm, this is odd [03:24:56] maybe it's the macron [03:25:14] try doing a full refresh of https://ang.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hr%C4%93oh_2000 PiRSquared [03:25:54] Thanks! I wonder why it didn't work... [03:26:22] PiRSquared: actually all I did was remove the sapce [03:26:23] space* [03:26:46] and now I've gone back and re-input the space and it still works [03:26:47] weird [03:26:55] maybe all it needed was editing, but WHY [03:37:11] sumanah : I've just received an email this week saying that I was not selected to get a wikimania scholarship [03:37:24] so I don't think I will be coming [03:37:43] Zaran: that is unfortunate. [03:37:55] Zaran: you had received my emails and messages about the Berlin event, right? [03:38:17] yes I did, I am really sorry that I am not answering all your emails, but I am reading everything [03:39:44] Zaran: ok, just wanted to check! you are unavailable for the Berlin hackathon, I infer? [03:40:26] yes I don't have any vacation, so flying back to Europe for a hackathon is definitely not an option [03:40:38] understood. :( [03:40:46] Zaran: well, I'm glad you were able to come to the San Francisco event [03:41:02] and if you have a spare weekday sometime soon, maybe you could come to the WMF office sometime [03:41:11] what really makes me sad atm is that I have really little time to dedicate to mediawiki [03:41:25] doing an internship abroad is really exhausting, because you have to keep contact with the people you know in your original country, so you have twice as many emails to write, twice as many skype calls to do, etc [03:41:44] but I'd like to come to the WMF office some time [03:43:29] Zaran: send me a note and tell me some dates that you are free.... also May 19th there's an accessibility hackathon at WMF [03:46:57] emergency help needed [03:47:04] What's wrong, Sid-G? [03:47:28] sumanah: the numbering style changed from arabic numerals to nagari numerals on hi-wp [03:47:44] Sid-G: point to the bug you've filed? [03:47:51] (I presume you have filed a bug) [03:48:08] sumanah: even though the default on hi-wp is set to arabic numerals [03:48:08] sumanah: came in here first [03:48:08] haven't filed yet [03:48:58] sumanah: go to any page on hi-wp tpye in #a #b #c the numbers are in devanagari for some reason. till yesterday they used to be the arabic ones [03:49:28] i was under the impression that they were decided by css and not by mediawiki, and they couldn't be changed [03:50:29] Sid-G: the deployment was more than a day ago -- did people only notice now? or did it just happen today somehow? [03:50:46] sumanah: probably just noticed now [03:51:45] Sid-G: are you an administrator on Hindi Wikipedia? if so, is there any preference you can set regarding this? [03:52:00] sumanah: yes, i'm an admin. thanks for reminding [03:52:09] sumanah: i'll try common.css fix for now [03:52:23] Sid-G: this sounds like an internationalisation issue. siebrand, Nikerabbit, are you awake and can you advise? [03:52:36] Sid-G: and please keep track of all the adjustments you make and what effects they have. [03:52:47] sumanah: will do [03:52:48] Sid-G: that will help us fix the problem in the long run (when you put those notes into your bug report) [03:52:56] sumanah: there's a bigger problem here [03:53:26] sumanah: there is no consensus about numerals at hi-wp [03:53:36] is it a user preference? [03:53:43] sumanah: nope [03:54:02] sumanah: numerals are set via the server or something (backend) [03:54:09] Sid-G: ok, so regarding that larger issue, it sounds like something that you, hi.wp, the language support team, and the i18n team have to work out [03:54:19] I don't have the power to help on that, sorry [03:54:50] sumanah: that i know. what i meant is, if i file a bug, i can't say that i have consensus for changing the list numerals back to arabic. [03:55:12] sumanah: would that mean that it can't/won't be fixed coz there isn't consensus? [03:55:22] Sid-G: :/ I simply don't know, sorry, check with the i18n team [03:55:36] Sid-G: email your language support team email list [03:55:36] ok [03:55:53] hmm [04:01:45] 03(NEW) Diff pages of file pages and normal pages have different #mw-content-text tag - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36285 normal; MediaWiki: History/Diffs; (liangent) [04:16:09] 03(mod) Ambiguous "Password:" header on Special:ChangeEmail - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35987 +comment (10Pranav Ravichandran) [04:21:19] New patchset: Shantanoo; "Removed trailing whitespace." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/5944 [04:22:41] New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/5944 [04:32:03] hi aharoni [04:32:11] hallo [04:46:42] 03(FIXED) list=allusers with auprop=group throws a MWException at user:%95 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33602 (10Beau) [04:49:43] Beau_: yay! [04:49:54] also, Beau_, remind me, did you register for the Berlin hackathon? [04:51:30] sumanah: hello, no, I did not, I don't know if I will be able to come [04:51:42] Beau_: :( Maybe next year. [04:51:48] Beau_: (it's basically sold out now) [04:51:58] Beau_: you can always of course host an event in your own city [04:52:12] also Beau_ maybe you know someone suitable for this job: http://hire.jobvite.com/CompanyJobs/Careers.aspx?nl=1&k=Job&j=op0lWfwq [04:52:33] Beau_: we're hiring a bunch right now: https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Job_openings [04:52:41] New patchset: Tim Starling; "In mctest.php, use the configured timeout instead of the default" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/5945 [04:53:09] 03(mod) Odd session bugs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35900 +comment (10Tim Starling) [04:54:01] New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/5945 [04:56:19] New review: Tim Starling; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/5945 [04:56:21] Change merged: Tim Starling; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/5945 [04:58:08] New patchset: Tim Starling; "In mctest.php, use the configured timeout instead of the default" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf1) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/5946 [04:58:14] sumanah: that's a lot of people you need [04:58:38] Beau_: yes! and so if you can help point good people to us, it would be appreciated [04:58:39] New review: Tim Starling; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf1); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/5946 [04:58:42] Change merged: Tim Starling; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf1) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/5946 [04:59:31] New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf1); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/5946 [05:01:06] sumanah: unfortunately I don't know anyone that fit the description; I am looking for a job myself but I have experience with different technologies ;) [05:01:23] Beau_: good luck. what kind of job do you seek? [05:02:34] sumanah: software developer/engineer [05:04:24] the most important aspect for me is to create something useful and interesting ;) [05:04:39] :) [05:05:39] I saw yesteday a lot of my changes were merged, hmm, I need to make more. [05:06:18] hi chughakshay16 [05:06:30] sumanah: hi sumana, [05:07:01] sumanah: will u be coming for the banglaore hackathon.. ? [05:07:36] chughakshay16: no, I won't, I'm sorry. It would not be a good use of the donors' money for me to fly to India just for a one-day event. [05:08:01] sumanah: yeah, that makes sense :) [05:08:18] chughakshay16: so, have you and your mentor gotten started with your Community Bonding Period plan? [05:08:30] sumanah: yes we have,,, [05:08:44] chughakshay16: great! what's your plan? [05:08:46] sumanah: have applied for a space in git for my extension.. [05:08:52] great [05:09:14] sumanah: once that is approved ,, i will shift my code from my git repo to the wikimedia repo.. [05:09:46] sumanah: right now trying to get familiar with wikimedia labs.. [05:09:51] chughakshay16: makes sense! [05:10:28] sumanah: as trying every new change in my code on my local machine wouldnt be a good idea.. [05:10:50] chughakshay16: it's nicer to have a real development environment that's not your local machine, yes [05:12:11] sumanah: and ever since hashar helped me solve my issues with gerrit i have been happy .. :) [05:12:20] chughakshay16: after you've gotten started with Labs and after your extension has moved to Git -- has your mentor suggested some other tasks for you, to do before May 21? [05:12:53] sumanah: i assume he would once i am done with this. [05:14:53] chughakshay16: here are some good ideas for things you ought to do by the time May 21st shows up: [05:14:54] * commit a test diff in Git [05:14:54] * review and merge code in Gerrit [05:14:54] * find a specific revision in Gitweb [05:14:54] * triage a new bug in Bugzilla [05:14:54] * test a feature (even better if he writes a unit test or a test case) [05:14:55] * do something involving learning about release notes (such as changing the release notes of the test extension along with making a test code change, or thinking through what ought to go on the https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_1.20/wmf2 onwiki summary) [05:14:59] * email wikitech-l, if he hasn't already, with a one-paragraph summary of your summer plans [05:15:04] chughakshay16: The idea is to give the student a holistic (if superficial) view of the whole software development process. [05:15:17] " (even better if he writes a unit test or a test case)" should be "if you write" [05:20:04] ok, I have to head to bed [05:20:09] hope that's helpful, chughakshay16 [05:20:16] sumanah: but do i have the privileges to merge in git .. ? [05:20:39] chughakshay16: you will have the privilege to merge into the repository that gets set up *for you* [05:20:59] chughakshay16: you will have "gerrit project ownership" [05:21:14] chughakshay16: what is your username in Git/gerrit? [05:21:23] sumanah: Chughakshay16 [05:22:17] chughakshay16: I've just added you as a Gerrit project owner in Project test/mediawiki/extensions/examples [05:22:22] chughakshay16: so you can practice there as well [05:22:35] chughakshay16: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?p=test%2Fmediawiki%2Fextensions%2Fexamples.git;a=shortlog;h=HEAD [05:22:36] sumanah: okay , thanks [05:22:58] chughakshay16: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#q,project:test/mediawiki/extensions/examples,n,z [05:24:03] sumanah: will try out the things you pointed out earlier on this example project. [05:24:09] chughakshay16: great. [05:24:28] sumanah: but havent been able to get in touch with jorm.. [05:24:29] chughakshay16: and you can consult us, your mentor, the room, etc if you have trouble [05:24:35] chughakshay16: what have you tried? [05:24:44] sumanah: yep.. :) [05:25:04] sumanah: mailed him.. have pinged me here in IRC a couple of times.. [05:25:37] chughakshay16: ok, forward your mail to me and I'll give you a critique and/or ask him for help. [05:25:37] sumanah: it may be because of the difference in timezones... [05:26:13] sumanah: mailing u.. [05:26:17] sumanah: ... [05:26:20] sumanah: done ! [05:26:50] ok, chughakshay16, so, you want the critique in public or private? [05:27:01] sumanah: as u wish :) [05:27:25] chughakshay16: as Joel says in http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/ResumeRead.html [05:27:32] Learn where spaces go in relation to other punctuation. Whenever you have a comma, there is always exactly one space and it's always after the comma and never before it. Thank you. [05:28:36] sumanah: as i see my mail.. i think i have done this right ...havent I ? :| [05:28:45] "Hi Brandon ," [05:28:59] you have mistakenly put a space between "Brandon" and the comma. [05:29:10] sumanah: yep .. [05:29:16] sumanah: :| [05:29:16] chughakshay16: also here: "and its related discussions ," [05:29:38] chughakshay16: also, "MediaWiki" is capitalized like that, and you wrote "mediawiki" [05:30:09] chughakshay16: "related to it(written by you)" Can you find the problem there? [05:30:36] sumanah: i specifically want the documentation written by him.. [05:30:52] chughakshay16: hint: I'm referring to a spacing issue. [05:31:31] sumanah: are u looking for a space between it and ( .. ? :) [05:31:38] Yes. [05:31:51] sumanah: okay, go it ! [05:31:55] *got [05:32:51] chughakshay16: ok, different level of critique. [05:33:03] sumanah: u can point me some more if u have any left.. [05:33:41] chughakshay16: "So Raylton P.Sousa suggested me to look over your implementation of a similar idea GlobalProfile" -- can you find any ways in which you could have written this sentence more clearly? [05:34:51] sumanah: yes i can give it a try.... [05:35:31] sumanah: ... "So Raylton suggested me to look into your implementation of GlobalProfile project... [05:35:41] sumanah: does that sound better ? [05:35:49] No, still doesn't feel good. [05:35:58] sumanah: ... :| [05:36:18] Here's a question. What sounds better? "Raylton suggested that I should look into ..." or "Raylton suggested me to...."? [05:36:26] No that. [05:36:49] sumanah: the first one.. :| [05:37:04] sumanah: but the second one isnt that bad.. :) [05:37:08] chughakshay16: do you know what a transitive verb is? [05:37:30] sumanah: well i m quite sure that i dont know the definition.. [05:37:41] chughakshay16: When I say, "I write books," "write" is transitive. I'm saying that the book is what I am writing. [05:38:09] chughakshay16: "I recommend Mel" means that Mel is the person that I say nice things about. [05:38:48] chughakshay16: "Raylton suggested me" has a similar structure. Do you understand? [05:39:15] sumanah: yes i do,, [05:40:32] sumanah: but honestly i dont understand why yours is better than mine.. ? [05:40:32] I need help with installing a Bot on Mediawiki [05:40:40] *i still [05:41:03] chughakshay16: ok. so now a different level of critique. Specific questions get better and quicker responses than large questions. So if you said you were having trouble with specific aspects of your project design, that might have been more appealing as a question. [05:41:07] hi xelawafs :) [05:41:33] hey aharoni [05:41:50] xelawafs: the python wikipediabot? [05:41:57] yap [05:42:07] chughakshay16: regarding the "Raylton suggested me" issue, this is about the difference between "I" and "me" -- that may help you look things up in a grammar theory text [05:42:08] what's the problem? [05:42:54] sumanah: yeah its kind of natural for me .. to ask for help even before stating the question.. [05:43:05] sumanah: u might see that in all my mails.. [05:43:10] I have the scripts and instructions on parameters but no idea on how to get them on mediawiki [05:43:18] sumanah: i will keep that in mind from next time. [05:43:48] mors [05:43:53] chughakshay16: I think it's useful to show that you have done your homework, if you understand what I mean. Link to your project plan, for example. [05:44:02] aharoni: is there a plugin or an add bot mediawiki feature for this? [05:44:14] sumanah: hmmm.. [05:44:26] sumanah: yep, u are totaly correct [05:44:26] chughakshay16: did you read "How to ask smart questions"? [05:44:43] xelawafs: what are you actually trying to do? [05:45:01] sumanah: yes u suggested me that some time back... [05:45:16] chughakshay16: chughakshay16: also, subject lines are a useful thing to spend a little time crafting. I like to make my subject lines a little bit clearer. Examples: "recommendations for Bug Wrangler position?" "Created your Git/Labs account" "request for 2 loaner laptops for Berlin hackathon (June 1-3)" [05:45:55] chughakshay16: just a little bit more detail in a subject line makes the reader more likely to read and respond to your mail. [05:45:56] aharoni: add text to a page whenever an article (with a specific category) is created [05:46:46] sumanah: i thought keeping it precise and short was considered to be better.. [05:46:49] So, in this case, I'd suggest something like: "pointers to additional GlobalProfile docs?" [05:47:19] xelawafs: you don't install a bot on mediawiki. you install it on your own computer and run it, and it connects to a server that runs MediaWiki like, more or less like a browser. [05:47:32] did you try to install a bot on your computer? [05:47:51] chughakshay16: there's a balance that you have to strike -- I think an entire sentence is usually too long, but it's usually possible to craft a subject line that is only 4-6 words long but is precise enough to convey to the reader that you are thoughtful and precise. [05:48:04] chughakshay16: do not confuse "concise" with "precise" :) [05:48:42] sumanah: :) [05:48:43] aharoni: nop, not yet, that definitely sheds some light. I've been approaching it in the wrong way :) Let me give it a try [05:50:21] sumanah: i never dwellt into so much details while writing something/... [05:50:35] chughakshay16: so, I suggest that you revise your email, mention that you've been ACCEPTED as a GSoC student, cc me and your mentor, and ask Brandon again. (Remember, you can also check his contributions using Special:Contributions and looking back in the history) [05:50:38] sumanah: i thought the purpose is convey your message in the best possible manner u can.. [05:50:50] chughakshay16: Yes! of course! And these details are how you do that. [05:51:11] chughakshay16: You make the message easier for the other person to read and pay attention to. [05:51:49] sumanah: i totally appreciate your effort in pointing me out these details.. [05:51:49] It is like creating a good UI for software. [05:52:07] I'm glad I can help, chughakshay16 [05:52:38] sumanah: i will do as u suggested.. [05:52:52] chughakshay16: and there's the pilot program this weekend for the English tutoring - you saw the email from me about that? [05:53:00] subject: Informal English tutoring this weekend [05:53:04] sumanah: yep.. [05:53:21] chughakshay16: please do answer the poll so we can choose a time. [05:53:22] Thanks! [05:53:27] ok, it's 2am here and I should go to sleep [05:53:31] good luck [05:53:46] sumanah: okay..c ya [05:53:47] mornin' [05:53:49] or evenin' [05:53:51] :) [05:53:54] sumanah: and yes i will [05:53:54] I need reviews for a couple of patches [05:54:00] where do I ask? [05:54:07] pranavrc: where are the patches? [05:54:13] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35987 [05:54:21] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32894 [05:54:35] pranavrc: you should get https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developer_access developer access and put them in Git directly, so they can get reviewed faster [05:54:57] Alright, I'll dive in, thanks! [05:55:07] 03(mod) Ambiguous "Password:" header on Special:ChangeEmail - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35987 +patch +patch-need-review; +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [05:55:35] pranavrc: hm, only 1 of the codebases you wish to improve is currently in Git [05:55:43] Yeah, the other one's an extension [05:55:50] How do I patch that? [05:55:57] unless I get access to the svn repo [05:56:14] pranavrc: for https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ReplaceText it looks like the authors are Yaron Koren & Nikerabbit [05:56:16] https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Code/MediaWiki&path=%2Ftrunk%2Fextensions%2FReplaceText%2F [05:57:35] pranavrc: I suggest you contact Yaron and ask him to review the patch to ReplaceText [05:57:59] Yeah, I'll do that, thanks! [05:58:03] pranavrc: Yaron and Niklas will probably want to move that extension to Git soon - you could ask them about their plans [05:58:17] if they don't plan to do it soon, you could ask for extensions access to SVN [05:58:23] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developer_access/Subversion#Requesting_commit_access [05:58:28] ok, I should really sleep [05:58:30] best all! [05:58:35] catch ya later [06:08:30] New patchset: Szymon ?wierkosz; "(bug 32434) API allows reblocking the user without reblock parameter." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4967 [06:09:52] New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4967 [06:17:18] 03(mod) bnwikisource index table should show the page number in Bengali - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36070 +comment (10Beau) [06:28:16] 03(mod) Blocking/Permissions Rewrite - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/14636 +comment (10Khaled El Mansoury) [06:33:41] 03(NEW) update all the old wiki names to their official names reported by API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36286 normal; Wikimedia Labs: wikistats; (dzahn) [06:35:13] 03(mod) update all the old wiki names to their official names reported by API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36286 (10Daniel Zahn) [06:38:26] 03(mod) update all the old wiki names to their official names reported by API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36286 +comment (10Daniel Zahn) [06:45:37] 03(NEW) deploy a replacement for the old "wikistats admin" (WSA) script - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36287 normal; Wikimedia Labs: wikistats; (dzahn) [06:46:33] 03(mod) deploy a replacement for the old "wikistats admin" (WSA) script - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36287 (10Daniel Zahn) [06:46:38] 03(NEW) Sometimes gerrit mails don't go into same thread in gmail - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36288 normal; Wikimedia: Git/Gerrit; (niklas.laxstrom) [06:47:52] 03(mod) Implement efficient way to select random page from specified category on Wikimedia wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/25931 +comment (10Asher Feldman) [06:48:39] 03(NEW) add a stats table for the LXDE wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36289 normal; Wikimedia Labs: wikistats; (dzahn) [06:49:04] 03(mod) add a stats table for the LXDE wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36289 (10Daniel Zahn) [06:53:32] 03(NEW) replace/rewrite largest_html.php / re-add output in other formats for "largest" all-in-one stats table - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36290 normal; Wikimedia Labs: wikistats; (dzahn) [06:54:08] 03(mod) replace/rewrite largest_html.php / re-add output in other formats for "largest" all-in-one stats table - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36290 (10Daniel Zahn) [06:56:33] New patchset: Szymon ?wierkosz; "Fix an exception thrown when viewing the page." [mediawiki/extensions/ProofreadPage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/5949 [06:56:59] 03(NEW) add 200 000 wikia wikis to stats table - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36291 normal; Wikimedia Labs: wikistats; (dzahn) [06:57:44] 03(mod) add 200 000 wikia wikis to stats table - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36291 (10Daniel Zahn) [06:58:00] I've followed the instructions on http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL [06:58:07] now the main page 404s [06:59:04] 03(mod) Decimal separator is not correctly internationalized - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36272 +comment (10Ad Strack van Schijndel) [07:02:04] 03(NEW) rewrite/fix versioncheck for wikistats table - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36292 normal; Wikimedia Labs: wikistats; (dzahn) [07:02:42] 03(mod) rewrite/fix versioncheck for wikistats table - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36292 (10Daniel Zahn) [07:02:53] 03(mod) rewrite/fix versioncheck for wikistats table - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36292 (10Daniel Zahn) [07:12:06] 03(NEW) completely remove or globally add the "views" column in stats tables - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36293 minor; Wikimedia Labs: wikistats; (dzahn) [07:12:51] 03(mod) completely remove or globally add the "views" column in stats tables - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36293 (10Daniel Zahn) [07:15:13] 03(mod) add a stats table for the LXDE wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36289 (10Daniel Zahn) [07:21:00] 14(INVALID) Initial Cleanup - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36133 +comment (10Daniel Zahn) [07:28:02] 03(mod) rewrite/fix versioncheck for wikistats table - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36292 normal->minor (10Daniel Zahn) [07:28:03] 03(mod) add 200 000 wikia wikis to stats table - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36291 normal->minor (10Daniel Zahn) [07:28:04] 03(mod) import several thousand wikis from wikiteam lists - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36265 normal->minor (10Daniel Zahn) [07:28:04] 03(mod) replace/rewrite largest_html.php / re-add output in other formats for "largest" all-in-one stats table - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36290 normal->minor (10Daniel Zahn) [07:28:05] 03(mod) Wrong version link - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36268 trivial->minor (10Daniel Zahn) [07:28:06] 03(mod) update all the old wiki names to their official names reported by API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36286 normal->minor (10Daniel Zahn) [07:28:06] 03(mod) Initial Cleanup - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36133 normal->minor (10Daniel Zahn) [07:28:07] 03(mod) deploy a replacement for the old "wikistats admin" (WSA) script - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36287 normal->minor (10Daniel Zahn) [07:28:07] 03(mod) add a stats table for the LXDE wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36289 normal->minor (10Daniel Zahn) [08:06:50] New patchset: Szymon ?wierkosz; "(bug 33613) ProofreadPage image width on edit." [mediawiki/extensions/ProofreadPage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/5950 [08:08:31] how can I export an article from one wiki and import it to another wiki? [08:08:40] use Special:Export [08:09:43] checking [08:09:48] 03(mod) ProofreadPage image width on edit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33613 +comment (10Beau) [08:28:41] 03(mod) jquery.footHovzer module should not cause a scroll bar to appear if total content is shorter than window height - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36273 +comment (10Krinkle) [08:30:58] hi [08:33:30] howto create EDITOR group [08:33:43] hey hanthana_, check FlaggedRevisions [08:34:03] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Flagged_Revisions [08:34:12] petan|wk, i am new to mediawiki [08:34:14] thanks [08:34:16] ok [08:34:48] petan|wk, actually we want block inappropriate content [08:34:58] ok, that's what this is for [08:35:05] !seen sumanah [08:35:14] !seen test [08:35:18] yay [08:35:26] O.o [08:35:42] didn't know we have this [08:45:14]