[00:02:07] oops got dc by mistake [00:03:21] 03(WONTFIX) labs-nfs1 /export/home is too small! - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36850 +comment (10Ryan Lane) [00:05:11] AaronSchulz: That's a perms problem, possibly caused by a bad umask [00:05:16] New patchset: MarkTraceur; "(bug 26167) Start uploading as soon as a file is selected" [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7251 [00:05:25] Something in .git must not be group-writable [00:05:43] khandu: btw are you a coder at all? [00:06:23] khandu: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developer_access in case you want to help out with making MediaWiki, and https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:WikiProject_Bug_Squad/Participants in case you want to help with testing & bug triage [00:11:33] thanks.. i am a coder.. but not in php etc.. will check them out [00:17:12] 03(mod) Cannot go back after uploading files - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32247 +comment (10Mark Holmquist) [00:17:12] 14(DUP) Need a way to fix bad filenames in chunked upload - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36583 +comment (10Mark Holmquist) [00:20:20] New patchset: Tim Starling; "Implemented a wrapper for the memcached PECL client" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7273 [00:21:28] 03(mod) Make Upload Wizard configurable to upload a single file and set api upload target - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27316 +comment (10Mark Holmquist) [00:21:50] New patchset: Reedy; "Preparations for adding extension to Translatewiki.net" [mediawiki/extensions/AkismetKlik] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7529 [00:22:15] New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7273 [00:23:13] New review: Reedy; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/AkismetKlik] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7529 [00:23:15] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions/AkismetKlik] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7529 [00:24:53] New review: Tim Starling; "PS2: Fixed igbinary option, fixed debug log on add(), documented return value from checkResult()." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7273 [00:28:48] New review: Reedy; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/MSSQLBackCompat] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7514 [00:29:50] New review: Reedy; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/MSSQLBackCompat] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7513 [00:29:52] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions/MSSQLBackCompat] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7514 [00:29:53] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions/MSSQLBackCompat] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7513 [00:30:02] 03(mod) Problem with license combinations - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36747 +comment (10Rob Lanphier) [00:33:41] New review: Reedy; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master); V: 0 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7360 [00:33:53] New review: Reedy; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7360 [00:33:55] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7360 [00:38:34] New review: Reedy; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/SelectTag] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7530 [00:38:36] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions/SelectTag] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7530 [00:41:17] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "Nice to have this as well, but a few minor issues that need to be taken care off before merge :)" [mediawiki/extensions/Maps] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7584 [00:45:15] New patchset: Alex Monk; "Show revdel links instead of checkboxes on pages where there is no multiple log entry revdel form." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7699 [00:47:11] New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7699 [00:58:49] 03(mod) Date suggestion should extract time as well from EXIF data - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29470 +comment (10Mark Holmquist) [01:00:05] New review: Reedy; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7595 [01:00:07] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7595 [01:06:52] New review: Katie Horn; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/DonationInterface] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/6956 [01:07:05] New review: Aaron Schulz; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7273 [01:07:08] Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7273 [01:09:37] New review: Aaron Schulz; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7303 [01:09:39] Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7303 [01:16:37] 03(mod) No longer able to scroll tables left -> right on m. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36844 +comment (10Jon) [01:17:26] New review: Katie Horn; "This, in combination with the change that allows for updating the minfraud servers, resolves all the..." [mediawiki/extensions/DonationInterface] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/6573 [01:17:32] Change merged: Katie Horn; [mediawiki/extensions/DonationInterface] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/6573 [01:22:10] TimStarling: should I nuke the $attempts code in FileBackendStore? [01:22:30] yes [01:22:50] you know I'm pretty sure that in the PECL client, delete() returns false if the key doesn't exist [01:23:01] not sure what the behaviour of the PHP client is [01:23:25] so doing it three times just because the key has expired doesn't seem like a good idea [01:24:00] if there is a real error on the first attempt, doing it again probably won't fix it [01:24:13] TimStarling: it the php client was changed to return true if it gets NOT_FOUND [01:24:30] right [01:25:04] normally, you'd think 'false' means "it failed to delete and is lying around maybe" and not "someone already deleted it/it expired" [01:25:16] and if there's a read timeout, you know what happens in the php client? [01:25:17] anyway, I'm removing the code now [01:25:36] TimStarling: does it retry itself? [01:26:19] no, the method just returns and the socket stays open [01:26:51] so if you retry and the server finally completes, the second call will receive the response from the first [01:27:54] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "[FileBackend] Removed likely surperflous memcached retry code." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7704 [01:28:12] ^ TimStarling [01:28:26] if there's a connect timeout, it will retry automatically [01:28:38] so in that case, your code just does 9 retries instead of 3 [01:28:38] \o/ [01:28:47] before that patch of course [01:29:34] New review: Tim Starling; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7704 [01:29:36] Change merged: Tim Starling; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7704 [01:29:57] TimStarling: can you also look at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/7320/ ? [01:30:17] so I guess you're implying with that patch that you want me to patch the PECL wrapper to return true in that case? [01:30:42] i.e. not found [01:31:38] it would be useful for error logging or such, yes [01:32:18] well, for error logging I'm hoping to log errors from that memcached-serious log channel I introduced [01:32:40] the idea is to have timeouts and what not logged separately from debugging stuff [01:34:53] re 7320: I guess it's better than how it was [01:35:08] not ideal of course [01:35:16] but I still think that it would be better to have it out of the database completely [01:35:40] yeah [01:37:02] New review: Tim Starling; "Better than how it was, I guess." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7320 [01:37:05] Change merged: Tim Starling; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7320 [01:37:29] * AaronSchulz hands tim the "most enthusiastic review" award [01:38:24] TimStarling: I am starting to feel like renaming getBatch to getMulti for memcached consistency [01:39:20] and incr and decr? [01:39:40] well we could leave those as wrappers [01:39:42] * AaronSchulz snickers [01:39:54] I don't know, a little bit of inconsistency keeps people on their toes ;) [01:40:27] it reminds you that you're not actually dealing with a Memcached object, you're dealing with a common interface to half a dozen cache storage systems [01:40:28] Reedy: ping re https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Review_queue [01:41:11] I think we should probably remove the $time parameter from delete() [01:41:54] it's not particularly useful with memcached, and of course won't work with anything else [01:42:40] sounds reasonable [01:42:42] binasher: re RandomInCategory & https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25931 , I infer that the proposed solution (Extension:RandomInCategory) doesn't scale. Is that right? [01:43:56] btw TimStarling you might be happy to know that Beau_ has been working on the Score extension to address your concerns: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/project:mediawiki/extensions/Score,n,z [01:44:09] yeah, I saw the bugzilla comment [01:45:11] TimStarling: while you are at it, you can kill the trigger_error in filebackend [01:45:49] otherwise, it will just spam the logs...unless it's easy to change the pecl one too [01:46:01] whatever they are, they should be the same [01:47:38] * AaronSchulz looks at http://www.php.net/manual/en/memcached.getresultcode.php [01:47:46] meh, it would be easy [01:48:04] New review: Katie Horn; "Couple things here: " [mediawiki/extensions/DonationInterface] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7187 [01:48:16] sumanah: the easiest path to implementing this in a way that performs suitably is 12https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25931#c29 [01:48:30] though it would require adding an arg to checkResult saying what the attempting action was [01:48:33] though it has a real cost in terms of hardware utilization [01:49:51] binasher: looking now. [01:50:21] binasher: you mean the former solution, precomputed cl_random column+index, mentioned in that comment? [01:52:05] yeah [01:54:24] New review: Katie Horn; "Could you change this (and the undefined UTM function as well) to be yet another clone of a filter f..." [mediawiki/extensions/DonationInterface] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7236 [01:55:14] 03(mod) Implement efficient way to select random page from specified category on Wikimedia wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/25931 +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [01:55:19] New review: Kaldari; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7691 [01:55:21] Change merged: Kaldari; [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7691 [02:04:13] New review: Reedy; "I presume the point of this is to reduce the need of doing lookup of user information for each row w..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7512 [02:12:34] 03(mod) Mediawiki Upload Error and Search not working in Oracle - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36726 +comment (10Raymond) [02:13:07] New review: Reedy; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (REL1_19); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7494 [02:13:09] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/core] (REL1_19) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7494 [02:14:36] 03(mod) Mediawiki Upload Error and Search not working in Oracle - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36726 +comment (10Raymond) [02:16:59] New review: Reedy; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaIncubator] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7355 [02:17:01] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaIncubator] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7355 [02:17:12] 03(mod) Mediawiki Upload Error and Search not working in Oracle - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36726 +comment (10Raymond) [02:17:41] 03(mod) Mediawiki Upload Error and Search not working in Oracle - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36726 +comment (10Raymond) [02:18:06] 03(mod) Mediawiki Upload Error and Search not working in Oracle - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36726 +comment (10Raymond) [02:19:53] 03(mod) Mediawiki Upload Error and Search not working in Oracle - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36726 +comment (10Raymond) [02:24:15] New review: Reedy; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Scribunto] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7153 [02:24:16] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions/Scribunto] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7153 [02:38:20] 03(FIXED) Activation of flood flag on it.wikisource.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36600 +comment (10jeremyb) [02:39:33] 03(FIXED) Set sitename to Telugu Wiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36533 +comment (10jeremyb) [02:48:30] 03(mod) "Changed since last visit" should be indicated by a class on the line as well as on an element embedded within the line - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36788 +comment (10Equazcion) [02:53:24] 03(mod) job queue monitoring looks for 1.18 dir and fails / $wmfExtendedVersionNumber.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36835 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [02:58:02] TimStarling: no memcached patches yet? ;) [02:59:13] 03(FIXED) Change project name for Indonesian Wikibooks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36156 +comment (10jeremyb) [02:59:23] * Aaron|home always expects stuff to magically happen during the time he walks home [03:09:26] 03(mod) [EmbedVideo] Fatal error: Class 'Hmtl' not found in EmbedVideo.hooks.php on line 119 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36845 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [03:09:54] 03(mod) ClueBot appearing in the "top 5 reviewers" pane - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36837 summary (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [03:10:06] 03(mod) ClueBot appearing in the "top 5 reviewers" pane - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36837 15enhancement->minor (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [03:20:48] 03(FIXED) Configure upload link on cs wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36813 +comment (10jeremyb) [03:35:19] New review: Hashar; "Code is fine to me. Just need some doc tweak now:" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/5138 [03:35:45] wow, that's a long commit msg [03:37:07] yup [03:37:16] definitely need some of its doc to be moved to php file :-) [03:39:05] New patchset: Tim Starling; "Minor PECL client fixes" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7707 [03:40:59] New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7707 [03:41:27] Change abandoned: Hashar; "(no reason)" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4065 [03:41:36] I have heard that a commit message is too long when it sends your computer into swap when you try to open it [03:41:58] 03ashley * 10/trunk/extensions/SocialProfile/UserProfile/SpecialUploadAvatar.php: (log message trimmed) [03:41:59] SocialProfile: fix bug #30953 - make Special:UploadAvatar actually work under MediaWiki 1.19.0. [03:41:59] There was an unannounced, subtle, yet major core change in 1.19: SpecialUpload [03:41:59] now wants the edit token (wpEditToken) _unconditionally_ and UploadAvatar wasn't [03:42:00] passing it as it wasn't required before, hence why all avatar uploads were [03:42:01] failing. [03:42:02] I lazily copypasted a few lines of code from includes/HTMLForm.php to fix that. [03:42:14] TimStarling: going to bugzilla quips :-D [03:42:22] It's already in there, I think ;) [03:42:30] it shouldn't be credited to me [03:42:50] oh from [03:42:52] someone else in this channel said it first [03:45:11] 03(FIXED) Avatar upload page broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30953 +comment (10Jack Phoenix) [03:45:23] taking a quick nap [03:45:34] will be back later [03:48:31] 03(mod) Avatar upload bug - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34018 +comment (10Jack Phoenix) [03:53:04] 03(mod) Set sitename to Telugu Wiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36533 +comment (10Arjuna Rao Chavala) [04:00:17] * TimStarling lols at quips.cgi [04:01:38] "What you see here in this issue is one of the edge cases (how often do you use large numbers in PHP?) where it does not work well." [04:02:58] 03(VERIFIED) Set sitename to Telugu Wiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36533 +comment (10jeremyb) [04:06:01] TimStarling: source? oh, that's from quips.cgi huh [04:06:24] https://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=54547 [04:06:56] you got me thinking of http://googleresearch.blogspot.com/2006/06/extra-extra-read-all-about-it-nearly.html [04:12:32] New patchset: Tim Starling; "Minor PECL client fixes" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7707 [04:12:59] New review: Tim Starling; "PS2: whoops, only tested the error case, not the normal case." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7707 [04:14:17] New patchset: Tim Starling; "Minor PECL client fixes" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7707 [04:14:49] New review: Tim Starling; "PS3: remove accidentally committed unrelated changes." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7707 [04:16:18] New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7707 [04:19:28] 03(NEW) ইমার ঠার/বিষ্ণুপ্রিয়া মণিপুরী is a very long name for a language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36851 normal; MediaWiki: Internationalization; (rkaldari) [04:25:40] I have a cross wiki anounncement to make. Where can I make it so that admins from all projects will see it? [04:27:39] 03(mod) ইমার ঠার/বিষ্ণুপ্রিয়া মণিপুরী is a very long name for a language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36851 +comment (10Ryan Kaldari) [04:27:46] 03(mod) Add rollbacker group for gagwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36239 +comment (10jeremyb) [04:34:06] hey guys.. is there a good site for mediawiki tutorial.. I have it setup.. but we all are so confused on how to use it (create pages, create table of index, create page under a page (if possible) ) editing etc.. [04:36:45] Khandu: Have you looked at https://mediawiki.org ? [04:37:05] The help files there are quite useful. [04:37:26] chicocvenancio: ask Joan [04:37:30] yeah i m reading them.. [04:38:09] we want to create a page with sub pages.. is that possible?? or will that main page will have sub sections (topics) which will become one giant page [04:39:33] Joan: Where is better to send a message to admins across wikiprojects. The edit I requested to popups has just been made and now Special:Contributions links work as long as a new line is added to the translation [04:40:59] chicocvenancio: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_message_delivery [04:43:17] humm, is that the best way? It'd be a lot of work to grab english speaking admins across all projects... [04:43:25] 03(mod) Upload Wizard Fails on files >300Mb - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36829 +comment (10Erik Moeller) [04:45:46] Joan:^ [04:46:32] chicocvenancio: You could use CentralNotice for that. [04:46:37] Or misuse, I guess. [04:46:48] Dunno. [04:47:02] Depends what you're trying to send and how you want it to get there. [04:48:59] translations to popups need a small addition [04:49:18] centralnotice would definitely be way too obtrusive [04:50:54] New review: Jeremyb; "See also Bug 36829." [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/6722 [05:05:41] New patchset: Tim Starling; "Don't log HttpError" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7708 [05:07:33] New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7708 [05:21:22] guys using 1.16 -- this page suggests http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Starting_a_new_page I can create a page by just going to URL/wiki/PAGE .. but it does not work.. I need to goto URL/wiki/index.php/PAGE <-- Am I doing something wrong or wrong in config? [05:27:43] 03(NEW) Gerrit doesn't show image updates side by side - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36852 normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (niklas.laxstrom) [05:28:36] khandu: the documentation is wrong [05:32:44] TimStarling: Thanks [05:32:48] so I am doing it right? [05:32:55] yes [05:33:35] to be fair, the documentation does say "The URL to an article of the wiki is usually something like" [05:33:48] it doesn't say that it is always URL/wiki/PAGE [05:33:57] ok another Q.. wiki does depth in pages?? can I create index.php/Page1/Page2/Page3 and then show the structure as a cotent to list all pages?? How do i do so ? [05:35:40] you can create the pages and then create a contents page manually [05:36:03] or you can use an extension like http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SubPageList [05:37:01] so wiki does support sub pages.. how do we create content manuall for say page1 and then page1/page2 and page1/page2/page3 [05:39:11] you create those pages and then put links in them [05:39:32] 03(mod) Help text before search typing starts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36716 +comment (10Phil Chang) [05:40:09] say I am in a page page1/page2 and I want to put a link in that page which goes to pag1/page2/pag3 .. what code do I put in there? [05:52:27] 03(mod) Fatal error PageTranslationHooks.php on line 414 during page creation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36846 (10Siebrand) [05:52:27] 03(mod) Page protection leads to issue in translatable pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32983 (10Siebrand) [05:52:40] 03(FIXED) Fatal error PageTranslationHooks.php on line 414 during page creation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36846 (10Siebrand) [05:52:52] [[pag1/page2/pag3]] [05:53:15] Thanks [05:53:29] nn [05:53:34] 04(REOPENED) Page protection leads to issue in translatable pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32983 +comment (10Siebrand) [05:53:51] and if on one page (say page2) I want to auto list all subpages list.. how to do that (auto generate kinda) and not hardcoded each time a new page comes [05:53:54] 04(REOPENED) Fatal error PageTranslationHooks.php on line 414 during page creation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36846 +comment (10Siebrand) [06:05:48] hello [06:06:13] anyone here? need help with my wiki [06:06:46] What do you need help with? [06:07:06] making a pretty url [06:07:35] trying to create the url structure: site.com/subdomain/wiki/wikipage [06:07:54] my mediawiki installation is installed in the "w" folder [06:08:05] but i do have a subdomain [06:08:12] so its like site.com/subdomain/w [06:08:48] in LocalSettings.php, the article path is like this: subdomain/w [06:09:06] and in the .htaccess, i have it set so that the url will redirect users from /w to /wiki [06:09:39] but when i actually go to the wiki page, i get an error. the server is trying to get into the wiki folder even though i renamed it to "w" [06:14:04] anyone? [06:20:22] *poke* [06:21:38] * p858snake|l wonders if Dantman is about [06:22:44] 03(mod) Gerrit doesn't show image updates side by side - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36852 normal->15enhancement; +upstream (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [06:25:57] TimStarling: Hey, any update on ad injection? [06:27:19] <-- needs help :( [06:28:52] nischayn22: what about it? [06:30:52] TimStarling: you got the code right? so what is the plan to get around that extension [06:31:08] anyone want to help me with my URl rewrite problem? [06:31:19] * nischayn22 hates malicious ads [06:31:20] there's a blog post [06:31:36] not sure if anything else is planned at the moment [06:31:38] huh? [06:31:49] I'm talking to nischayn22 [06:31:53] i cant get my url rewrite to work [06:31:56] :( [06:32:16] I know, you said it about 5 times [06:32:23] but I don't have time to debug it for you at the moment [06:32:45] thomas_: try asking after some time again [06:33:58] TimStarling: I just hope there is a way to just prevent such injection rather than just making the user aware about it [06:34:11] not in general [06:34:27] that's what Krinkle thought anyway [06:35:07] the chrome extension runs earlier than the site JS, and has higher privileges [06:35:16] so in principle it could defeat anything we do [06:35:50] yeah, short of building ugly timers that walk the dom recursively and wipe unknown elements [06:36:03] which would also wipe out gadgets and stuff, not realistically doable [06:36:17] the browers should take care of it then, otherwise anyone can just modify a website with an extension lol [06:37:09] nischayn22: that is kind of the point of extensions. They can intercept requests (such as HTTPS Everywhere does) very early on. Or insert DOM elements (such as the Chrome extension that adds extra buttons to a Github compare view). [06:37:55] the user has to manually install them, and during this proces a list of permissions is shown that the extension needs [06:38:06] at least browsers should take care that extensions don't get added by themselves [06:38:31] Krinkle: No, chrome never asks a list of permissions [06:39:21] e.g. which domains it is allowed to act on (HTTPS Everywhere has rights such as *:*/*, which is basically everything [06:39:21] We have yet to confirm that this extension installed itself [06:39:21] Atleast I am not convinced it did, (yet) [06:39:32] It does, last I checked [06:39:35] let me pull it up [06:40:28] my friend had this "I want this" extension installed in chrome by itself or he installed some exe that claimed to be a video codec [06:41:13] * nischayn22 should try making a browser extension ;) [06:41:22] Chrome extensions can be installed in 2 ways. By looking it up in the chrome webstore or by direct URI. The latter shows an additional warning before the download is complete about it "possible containing an executable program that may be malicious" it does that for .exe, .xpi and such. [06:41:25] 03(mod) Gerrit doesn't show image updates side by side - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36852 +comment (10Niklas Laxström) [06:42:33] So far my theory for "I Want This" is that the user visits a malicious site where there is something the user wants (e.g. watching an tv episode, downloading a movie, doing something for a social network action etc.) and before the user can do so it says it requires installing an add-on. [06:42:56] the user continues, is shown a nice 3-step proces with screenshots of what dialogs to expect and what buttons to click and the user does so [06:44:23] I've fought a similar problem in the past a few years ago when I was working with a video streaming website. One of the advertisers was taking over our video player and overlaying it with a message that said it required you install VLC. [06:44:38] But the .exe it linked to wasn't the real VLC, it was a customized installer from Zango (google "Zango" and you'll find a flood of bad stuff) that installed a hole bunch of crap. [06:45:13] it is a very common technique for malware and hard to detect because the user allows it, without knowing that they did so. [06:45:46] and JS lets them do all the evil stuff with a webpage [06:45:51] Yep [06:46:32] Ads are a "self-inflicted XSS attack" (loosely cited from Douglas Crockford) [06:46:47] whether it is just inserting an image, or a flash component or doing other stuff. It is bad. [06:47:03] So is loading scripts from a cdn. [06:47:13] a third party cdn, that is [06:49:30] nischayn22: Yep, just confirmed it by re-installing HTTPS Everywhere from EFF. They are not in the Chrome Web Store. Perfect example [06:50:44] screenshots: http://cl.ly/3H3V3P1Y1O2y390l273G http://cl.ly/1g1H26441Q3U0b212n1F http://cl.ly/1r312z3Y013a1t243t3r [06:50:57] (last one) http://cl.ly/0R2Q2w3S2s1G1h293T0O [06:51:03] New patchset: Netbrain; "added a optional maxzoom and minzoom parameter" [mediawiki/extensions/Maps] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7584 [06:51:39] second one shows the pre-download warning, probably based on content-type header and url extension [06:51:43] Krinkle: did you follow up in the code review message you changed locally on mw.org? [06:51:44] third one shows the permissions [06:51:56] Nikerabbit: No [06:53:08] New review: Netbrain; "Fixed the code according to the weaknesses you pointed out. I think it's OK now." [mediawiki/extensions/Maps] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7584 [06:53:13] Krinkle: are you planning to? [06:53:31] I could try :P - I haven't opened SpecialCode in weeks [06:53:47] I may have clicked a few links here and there, btu thats about it [06:54:00] Nikerabbit: Do you have the message key near by? [06:55:50] I think Chrome has done more than they have to in this case. They warn in several different stages, default to Cancel. Also show afterwards when the current page matches the permissions and what the icon wil look like. Of course none of this helps when one installs a malicious extension that does things it doesn't advertise. But that's hard to fix short of requiring a user to know programming and read the source code before installing [06:55:55] \/ But that's hard to fix short of requiring a user to know programming and read the source code before installing [06:57:18] HTTPS Everywhere requires access to all domains. It advertises that it will only change protocols in requires, but if someone decides to go crazy at EFF, there isn't much Chrome can do about it. They can't kick 'em out of the app store since they're not in it. [06:57:56] oh well, nuff about that :P [06:57:58] Nikerabbit: Are you in Europe? You're up early [06:58:07] Krinkle: haha! [06:58:09] yes I am [06:58:13] for two hours [06:58:21] (up I mean) [06:58:21] if there is a site that is pushing this extension in a deceptive way then it would be nice to know its URL [06:58:21] wow [06:59:02] that would give us a better chance of being able to get AWS to cancel their account [06:59:10] TimStarling: yeah, that would help. We may not be able to "fix" it from within MediaWIki or through Chrome (or Firefox for that matter), but as you pointed out the other day, we can make it hard for them in other ways. [06:59:38] Krinkle: it was code-referenced [06:59:51] Nikerabbit: Ah, nailed me to the second. I almost found it [06:59:56] https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?limit=300&tagfilter=&title=Special%3AContributions&contribs=user&target=Krinkle&namespace=8&tagfilter=&year=&month=-1 [07:00:00] Followed-up revisions (haha) -> Past revisions this follows-up on [07:00:02] It is in there somewhere [07:00:07] yeah, that's the one [07:00:21] I'll commit it to svn [07:00:26] or is code review in git now? [07:00:31] New review: Eloquence; "Take a first crack at it, and we'll do a design pass on your implementation." [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7138 [07:00:46] it is [07:00:47] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?p=mediawiki/extensions/CodeReview.git;a=tree [07:00:48] Krinkle: it should be, it's wmf extension [07:00:54] ah, of course [07:01:57] 03raymond * 10/trunk/translatewiki/MediaWiki/mediawiki-defines.txt: Add extension to Translatewiki.net [07:03:56] Nikerabbit: btw, I notice that always with mediawiki extension i18n files the language headers often appear on the diff even tough they are not changed. [07:04:13] I tried different encodings for my editor but no change. I'm not the only one [07:04:22] I also notice it in ToolserverI18N dumps from twn [07:04:49] -/** German (formal address) (<80>Deutsch (Sie-Form)<80>) [07:04:49] +/** German (formal address) (Deutsch (Sie-Form)) [07:04:55] that's on the diff I'm about to commit [07:06:01] New patchset: Krinkle; "[CodeReview] Commit i18n change from mediawiki.org" [mediawiki/extensions/CodeReview] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7709 [07:06:07] AFAIK my friend was building a website to play radio stations, and was browsing some radio websites when he installed some evil thing, don't think he will remember the url [07:07:24] nischayn22: and it installed the "I Want This" extension? [07:07:33] I guess so [07:07:54] Krinkle: interesting editor you have [07:07:58] Or did he do it himself? [07:07:59] (either way, knowing that url would be helpful) [07:08:10] 03(mod) noprint content is hidden - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29157 +comment (10T. Gries) [07:08:22] that diff is from "git diff" on the command line. those characters don't show up like that in my editor [07:08:25] Nikerabbit: ^ [07:08:35] will ask him, but I am sure he won't remember where he installed it from [07:08:51] New review: Krinkle; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/CodeReview] (master); V: 0 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7709 [07:09:01] New review: Krinkle; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/CodeReview] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7709 [07:09:01] Krinkle: still, why is your editor removing valid unicode chars? [07:09:03] Change merged: Krinkle; [mediawiki/extensions/CodeReview] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7709 [07:09:19] 03(mod) noprint content is hidden - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29157 +comment (10p858snake) [07:09:25] Nikerabbit: I don't know. I'm not sure it is removing them. [07:09:32] if I edit it again, it'll show the same in the diff [07:09:51] what would be removing those then? [07:10:18] well, that's the point. I don't know if it is removing anything. There is just something about those characters that diff doesn't like [07:10:22] it happened with svn as well [07:10:36] I have seen this in i18n commits for as long as I can remember. [07:10:42] from me, from others, everywhere [07:11:03] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/7709/1/CodeReview.i18n.php,unified [07:14:11] 03(mod) noprint content is hidden - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29157 +comment (10T. Gries) [07:14:47] New review: Raimond Spekking; "Please add message documentation. Once this is done this extension will be added to Translatewiki.ne..." [mediawiki/extensions/OATHAuth] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/6883 [07:15:34] 03(mod) noprint content is hidden - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29157 +comment (10T. Gries) [07:33:01] 03(FIXED) Printer friendly version of article must encode URL in unicode. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32748 +comment (10Santhosh Thottingal) [07:38:10] 03(NEW) Building AST from simple wikitext throws errors in 'mediawiki.jqueryMsg' module - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36853 normal; MediaWiki: ResourceLoader; (questpc) [07:39:01] 03(mod) Language::getNamespaces() produce fatal cause it sum array with null - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36468 summary; +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [07:41:10] 14(WFM) Building AST from simple wikitext throws errors in 'mediawiki.jqueryMsg' module - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36853 +comment (10Dmitriy Sintsov) [07:43:32] 03(mod) Add all extensions used by WMF to Jenkins - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34617 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [07:46:57] 03(mod) Change project name for Indonesian Wikibooks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36156 +comment (10bennylin) [07:57:02] 03(VERIFIED) Change project name for Indonesian Wikibooks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36156 (10jeremyb) [07:58:38] 03(mod) Change project name for Indonesian Wikibooks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36156 +comment (10Imanuel NS Uen) [08:03:13] 03(NEW) Article Feedback Page - Integration between filter links and drop-down menu - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36854 normal; MediaWiki extensions: ArticleFeedbackv5; (pginer) [08:05:55] 03(mod) [TestSwarm] rename git jobs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36143 +easy (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [08:11:06] 03(mod) Trouble finding commit bd7a268e4be2da23ba0b9943c3b0ba1ac88294dc in gitweb - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35461 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [08:13:45] 03(FIXED) create Git repositories for the beta project - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36413 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [08:16:16] 03(mod) Add all extensions used by WMF to Jenkins - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34617 +comment (10Max Semenik) [08:27:26] New patchset: Netbrain; "added proper centering of markercluster" [mediawiki/extensions/Maps] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7710 [08:28:06] New review: Netbrain; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Maps] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7710 [08:33:52] 03(mod) Hiding file upload log entry should also hide the contents of the "Summary" box on file pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36497 +comment (10Aaron Schulz) [08:38:54] New review: Aaron Schulz; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7707 [08:38:57] Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7707 [08:39:34] Aaron|home: get some sleep :-] [08:40:12] hashar: morning :) [08:40:19] hello Krinkle [08:40:22] * Aaron|home woke up not long ago and will sleep again after some time [08:40:53] * Krinkle-away could've woken up not long ago, but will instead go to sleep in a few minutes [08:40:53] I woke up at 1:30am this morning [08:40:55] jet lag is fun [08:41:05] hashar: ah, I thought you arrived yesterday [08:41:09] or the day before that [08:41:21] oh you did arrive yesterday. [08:41:23] I landed in my city at 3pm on sunday [08:41:35] ah, that is a terrible timing. [08:41:37] gone to bed sunday at 22pm, woke up on monday at 16pm [08:42:06] then to bed monday evening at 23pm, to wake up a bit more than 2 hours after [08:42:16] I believe landing at 3pm was perfect, to enjoy the sun and sync [08:42:16] yeah, I know the feeling. I had the same in israel last year (also from the US to the east). Arriving in the evening is not optimal. [08:42:33] Okay, if that works for you :) [08:42:58] my mistake was forgetting to set an alarm on monday, around noon :-) [08:43:29] and of course, I did some after work party on the night of friday till saturday. Gone to bed at 3am, woke up at 7am :-((((((((( [08:43:42] so only 4 hours of sleep, almost as little in the plane :-( [08:44:03] anyway I managed to work a bit this night ! [08:45:02] New review: Aaron Schulz; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7708 [08:45:06] Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7708 [08:50:11] 03(mod) JavaScript mw.api.prototype.ajax should return an instance of jQuery.Deferred rather than jqXHR - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36783 +comment (10Krinkle) [08:50:33] hashar: yeah, going east is funny sometimes with jetlag :) [08:50:37] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "Renamed new BagOStuff getBatch() function to getMulti() for consistency." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7711 [08:51:31] 03petrb * 10/trunk/extensions/OnlineStatusBar/resources/images/ (statusgreen.png statusorange.png statusred.png): layout of images is now same [08:52:31] New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7711 [08:53:53] 03(mod) mw.Api should use its own $.Deferred for ok/err; and return that instead of jqXHR's Deferred - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36783 summary; +comment (10Krinkle) [08:54:02] 03(mod) mw.Api should use its own $.Deferred for ok/err; and return that instead of jqXHR's Deferred - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36783 (10Krinkle) [08:54:09] 03(mod) mw.Api should use its own $.Deferred for ok/err; and return that instead of jqXHR's Deferred - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36783 (10Krinkle) [08:56:49] 14(DUP) \frac{n_1}{n_2}\sin\theta_1>1 breaks in MathJax - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36842 +comment (10Michael M.) [08:56:50] 03(mod) HTML tags shouldn't be escaped before passing to MathJax - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36059 +comment (10Michael M.) [09:00:57] 03(NEW) MathJax treats percent sign (%) as start of a comment - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36855 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Math; (listenleser) [09:07:25] 03(mod) JavascriptFFS shouldn't be building JSON manually - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31331 +comment (10Krinkle) [09:07:41] New patchset: Netbrain; "added a custom class property to ease customization of the menu." [mediawiki/extensions/SideBarMenu] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7712 [09:08:32] New review: Netbrain; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/SideBarMenu] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7712 [09:08:34] Change merged: Netbrain; [mediawiki/extensions/SideBarMenu] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7712 [09:10:50] 03(mod) JavascriptFFS shouldn't be building JSON manually - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31331 +comment (10Krinkle) [09:12:40] New review: Aaron Schulz; "http://us.php.net/manual/en/function.inet-pton.php" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7296 [09:12:56] 03(NEW) Enable bureaucrats to remove adminship on nn.wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36856 enhancement; Wikimedia: Site requests; (chstole) [09:13:06] 03(mod) MobileFrontend uses too many global variables - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36379 +comment (10Krinkle) [09:15:30] 03(mod) Enable bureaucrats to remove adminship on nn.wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36856 +shell (10p858snake) [09:17:02] Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7036 [09:19:35] 03(mod) Enable bureaucrats to remove adminship on nn.wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36856 +comment (10Thehelpfulone) [09:21:04] 03(mod) Special:ActiveUsers to have a checkbox for global bots and users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36812 +comment (10Krinkle) [09:22:11] New review: Krinkle; "Please fix this by checking for the user right "bot"." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7535 [09:25:20] 03(mod) MobileFrontend uses too many global variables - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36379 +comment (10Krinkle) [09:28:23] 03(ASSIGNED) Some 'centralnotice-*-button' messages are either unused or badly documented - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36797 (10Amir E. Aharoni) [09:28:43] 03(NEW) Create new feature for manipulating group permissions through a GUI - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36857 enhancement; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (krinklemail) [09:29:33] New patchset: Netbrain; "fixed minor issue" [mediawiki/extensions/SideBarMenu] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7713 [09:29:47] New review: Netbrain; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/SideBarMenu] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7713 [09:30:22] New review: Netbrain; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/SideBarMenu] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7713 [09:30:23] Change merged: Netbrain; [mediawiki/extensions/SideBarMenu] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7713 [09:30:46] 03(mod) MobileFrontend uses too many global variables - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36379 +comment (10Jon) [09:32:04] 03(mod) Create new feature for manipulating group permissions through a GUI - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36857 +comment (10Krinkle) [09:33:42] 03(mod) Stewards to be able to modify user groups on local wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36833 +comment (10Krinkle) [09:33:43] 03(mod) Create new feature for manipulating group permissions through a GUI - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36857 (10Krinkle) [09:34:18] 03(mod) Grant Stewards to right to change group permissions on local wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36833 summary (10Krinkle) [09:35:55] New patchset: Amire80; "(bug 36797) Removing outdated *-button messages." [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7714 [09:37:20] 03(FIXED) Some 'centralnotice-*-button' messages are either unused or badly documented - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36797 +comment (10Amir E. Aharoni) [09:43:24] 03(FIXED) [[en:Global Positioning System]] infobox doesn't stretch to full device size - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36678 +comment (10Jon) [09:43:25] !botbrai [09:43:26] !botbrain [09:43:26] http://bots.wmflabs.org/~petrb/db/%23mediawiki.htm [09:43:30] neh [09:43:31] meh [09:43:40] @regsearch tools [09:43:40] Results (found 15): audit, autothumb, bleedingedge, botnoob, charinsert, cms, externaleditor, rfc, svnsearch, testswarm, toolserver, ts, tso, wiki2pdf, wiki2xml, [09:43:58] !botnoob [09:43:58] I don't know everything about everything. I am mostly for lazy experienced users to echo quick answers to very common mediawiki questions. Please don't randomly experiment with me for help. Everything I know is at http://toolserver.org/~mwbot/botbrain.html and you can visit #mwbot or privately message me. [09:44:50] 03(FIXED) Gitweb should be able to show bd7a268e4be2da23ba0b9943c3b0ba1ac88294dc - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35461 summary; +comment (10Krinkle) [09:46:05] petan|wk: Any chance you could import https://toolserver.org/~mwbot/botbrain.html for wm-bot (at least for #mediawiki and #wikimedia-dev) [09:46:16] mw-bot is broken and has been for a while, I don't have much hope for it being repaired [09:46:45] it is crashing on start with a bunch of Java exceptions [09:47:05] does wm-bot feature aliases? [09:47:24] how does it manage access for adding/removing commands? Can we import the hostname cloak list of mw-bot? [09:48:07] !git [09:48:07] Git is a SCM by gits for gits. Using git with the mediawiki subversion repository: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git [09:48:31] !g [09:48:32] Google says: http://www.google.com/search?btnI=745&q=$1 [09:49:31] !g is https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#q,$1,n,z [09:49:32] Key exist! [09:49:39] !g del [09:49:39] Successfully removed g [09:49:45] !g is https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#q,$1,n,z [09:49:45] Key was added! [09:49:53] !g 1234 [09:49:53] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#q,1234,n,z [09:50:09] !g de059228933681b6b0f97a818a561cde22901e1e [09:50:10] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#q,de059228933681b6b0f97a818a561cde22901e1e,n,z [09:50:37] !b [09:50:37] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=$1 [09:50:58] <_Meow> Wow, it's working. [09:51:12] how can I list all messages? [09:51:13] The brain is based on an old copy of mw-bot [09:51:19] !botbrain [09:51:19] http://bots.wmflabs.org/~petrb/db/%23mediawiki.htm [09:51:31] @dump [09:51:34] @braindump [09:52:19] petan|wk: Can it alias #wikimedia-dev db to #mediawiki ? (or the other way) [09:52:31] Would be nice not to have the duplicate everything [09:53:03] !g [09:53:03] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#q,$1,n,z [09:53:06] !gerritsearch [09:53:12] !gerritsearch is https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#q,$1,n,z [09:53:12] Key was added! [09:53:13] !g del [09:53:13] Successfully removed g [09:53:18] !g alias gerritsearch [09:53:18] Successfully created [09:53:39] !change alias gerritsearch [09:53:39] Successfully created [09:53:45] <_Meow> !change [09:53:45] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#q,$1,n,z [09:53:58] should we batch add messages from old botbrain? [09:54:02] <_Meow> !change AbuseFilter [09:54:02] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#q,AbuseFilter,n,z [09:54:10] ... [09:54:18] it takes a gerrit change number or a git commit ID [09:54:23] <_Meow> Sorry [09:54:26] :D [09:54:54] !! [09:54:56] <_Meow> I'm new here, so I don't know how it works [09:54:57] I can't edit it in PM because it is per-channel. I could do it en mass, btu I don't want to flood this channel [09:55:05] <_Meow> !!! [09:55:30] !!! is Stop using so many exclamation marks ! [09:55:30] Key was added! [09:55:35] <_Meow> Good [09:55:38] (copied from old botbrain) [09:55:43] <_Meow> Thanks liangent [09:56:08] <_Meow> !mw-bot [09:56:14] <_Meow> !wb-bot [09:56:17] <_Meow> !wm-bot [09:57:00] <_Meow> !mw-bot is An IRC bot in #mediawiki which has been broken for a while. [09:57:00] Key was added! [09:57:18] should it give some hints when a message does not exist? [09:58:11] !labs is a place where magic happens. see #wikimedia-labs and http://labsconsole.wikimedia.org [09:58:11] Key exist! [09:58:21] heh [09:58:38] <_Meow> !labs [09:58:38] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/WMF_Projects/Wikimedia_Labs [09:59:16] <_Meow> !2.0 [09:59:16] Not gonna happen in your lifetime :) In the meantime, here's a wishlist: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:2.0 [09:59:17] appending to existing key with "also is" (as infobot did) is even cooler than delete/recreate, btw [09:59:43] <_Meow> !labs also is a place where magic happens/ [09:59:43] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/WMF_Projects/Wikimedia_Labs [09:59:46] or was it "is also"..anyways [09:59:46] <_Meow> Like this? [09:59:53] nice!:) [09:59:54] !labs [09:59:54] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/WMF_Projects/Wikimedia_Labs [09:59:58] <_Meow> !labs is also a place where magic happens/ [09:59:59] Key exist! [10:00:05] <_Meow> No, it doesn't work [10:00:07] also is is just a no-op [10:00:22] 04(REOPENED) no choice for PD-old-70 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34531 +comment (10Saibo) [10:00:24] liangent: http://cl.ly/0n1W2P1i2m1i0s3j1H1U [10:00:46] 03(mod) no choice for PD-old-70 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34531 -i18n (10Saibo) [10:01:03] now.. prompt('', irc.join("\n" [10:01:07] and paste.. [10:01:13] <_Meow> Does wm-bot also listen on #mwbot ? [10:01:28] No [10:01:43] And even if it does, it wouldn't be useful because it would have a separate brain for that channel [10:01:54] <_Meow> Okay [10:02:00] if petan|wk can confirm that it does alias channels, however, then we could do that [10:02:17] and I can paste the old mw-bot brain ( http://cl.ly/0n1W2P1i2m1i0s3j1H1U ) [10:02:25] Krinkle-away: no-op ? [10:02:39] google it [10:02:48] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NOP [10:02:50] <_Meow> !google no-op [10:02:50] You haven't googled it yet. http://www.google.com [10:02:57] <_Meow> Huh? [10:03:06] lolderbolder [10:03:07] <_Meow> !stfw [10:03:22] !google del [10:03:23] Successfully removed google [10:03:28] <_Meow> !stfw is http://lmgtfy.com/?q=$1 [10:03:28] Key was added! [10:03:34] <_Meow> !stfw no-op [10:03:34] http://lmgtfy.com/?q=no-op [10:03:50] <_Meow> It works! :-) [10:03:57] !google is http://lmgtfy.com/?q=$1 [10:03:57] Key was added! [10:04:03] ok [10:04:11] !lmgtfy alias google [10:04:11] Successfully created [10:04:24] !stfw del [10:04:25] Successfully removed stfw [10:04:27] !stfw alias google [10:04:28] Successfully created [10:04:44] <_Meow> Krinkle-away: Wouldn't it make more sense to just get a direct link to google in response to !google ? [10:04:44] !stfg alias google [10:04:44] Successfully created [10:05:09] _Meow: I don't think wm-bot supports conditional output based on number of arguments. [10:05:17] <_Meow> Maybe some people want a shortcut rather than a tutorial [10:05:29] yeah... [10:05:31] <_Meow> Sorry for not making it clear [10:05:34] !google foo [10:05:34] http://lmgtfy.com/?q=foo [10:05:56] !google del [10:05:56] Successfully removed google [10:06:30] !google is https://google.com/search?q=$1 [10:06:30] Key was added! [10:06:35] !lmgtfy [10:06:35] http://lmgtfy.com/?q=$1 [10:06:41] <_Meow> !stfw foo [10:06:41] https://google.com/search?q=foo [10:06:41] interesting [10:06:49] <_Meow> Oww [10:06:56] Go ahead [10:07:01] 03(mod) Prevent search engines from indexing the user namespace in German Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36181 +comment (10Alexander Karnstedt) [10:07:03] <_Meow> !stfw del [10:07:03] Unable to find the specified key in db [10:07:15] <_Meow> !stfw alias del [10:07:15] Alias is already existing! [10:07:16] ok just wasn't sure whether you meant you don't want the feature or it isnt implemented [10:07:20] haha, brain fuck :P stfw was an alias to google, it doesn't exist [10:07:22] I deleted google [10:07:44] <_Meow> !stfw alias lmgtfy [10:07:44] Alias is already existing! [10:07:56] !stfw [10:07:56] https://google.com/search?q=$1 [10:07:57] !stfw alias g [10:07:57] Alias is already existing! [10:07:58] <_Meow> Uh-oh. [10:08:01] !stfw del [10:08:01] Unable to find the specified key in db [10:08:06] !stfw is foo [10:08:06] Key was added! [10:08:10] !stfw del [10:08:10] Successfully removed stfw [10:08:16] !stfw alias lmgtfy [10:08:16] Alias is already existing! [10:08:21] <_Meow> ...... [10:08:24] hm.. [10:08:38] !stfw del alais [10:08:38] Unable to find the specified key in db [10:08:40] !stfw del alias [10:08:40] Unable to find the specified key in db [10:08:44] !stfw alias del [10:08:44] Alias is already existing! [10:08:49] !stfw del [10:08:49] Unable to find the specified key in db [10:08:54] <_Meow> ! rm -rf / --no-preserve-root [10:09:37] <_Meow> !brainfuck [10:10:20] _Meow: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brainfuck [10:10:21] <_Meow> !brainfuck is An extremely expressive and easy-to-learn programming language. [10:10:21] Key was added! [10:10:28] heh [10:10:30] okay, here we go [10:10:31] <_Meow> mutante: :) [10:10:34] !! del [10:10:34] Unable to find the specified key in db [10:10:35] !! is A red exclamation mark (!) in the recent changes or on your watchlist means that edit is not patrolled yet. Read more about patrolling at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Patrolled_edits and configuration at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgUseRCPatrol [10:10:35] Key was added! [10:10:36] !!! del [10:10:37] Successfully removed !! [10:10:38] !!! is Stop using so many exclamation marks ! [10:10:38] Key was added! [10:10:40] !$wgserver del [10:10:40] Successfully removed $wgserver [10:10:41] !$wgserver is The base URL of the server, including protocol and without the trailing slash (eg, "http://www.mediawiki.org"). See also http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgServer [10:10:41] Key was added! [10:10:42] !1.17 del [10:10:43] Successfully removed 1.17 [10:10:44] !1.17 is MediaWiki 1.17 is out. Latest version is 1.17.3; ; REL1_17 branched on 7 December 2010 at 77974 ; [10:10:44] Key was added! [10:10:45] !1.17_tracking del [10:10:46] Successfully removed 1.17_tracking [10:10:47] !1.17_tracking is The tracking bug for 1.17 tarball is bug 26676 [10:10:47] Key was added! [10:10:49] !1.17wmf1 del [10:10:49] Successfully removed 1.17wmf1 [10:10:50] !1.17wmf1 is Branched on 3 February 2011 at r81457 from REL1_17 http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/Media...S from Wikipedia's Common.css and Monobook.css. You'll also need a lot of patience. [10:10:50] Key was added! [10:10:51] <_Meow> Noooooooooooooooo!!!! [10:10:52] !wtf del [10:10:52] Successfully removed wtf [10:10:53] !wtf is http://is.gd/aaT55o [10:10:53] Key was added! [10:10:54] !wysiwyg del [10:10:55] Successfully removed wysiwyg [10:10:56] !wysiwyg is What You See Is What You Get editors allow you to create articles and see the text formatting without needing to Show Preview. A list of wysiwyg editor extensions may be found at . For some discussion, see . See also . [10:10:56] Key was added! [10:10:57] !xampp del [10:10:57] Successfully removed xampp [10:10:59] !xampp is XAMPP is an easy to install bundle of Apache, MySQL, PHP, Perl, and more stuff, available for all popular operating systems - see . For installing MediaWiki on XAMPP, see and also . [10:10:59] Key was added! [10:11:00] !xkcd del [10:11:00] Unable to find the specified key in db [10:11:02] !xkcd is https://xkcd.com/`1 [10:11:02] Key was added! [10:11:03] !xml del [10:11:04] Successfully removed xml [10:11:05] !xml is Use HTML5, Luke [10:11:05] Key was added! [10:11:07] !yoda del [10:11:07] Successfully removed yoda [10:11:07] !yoda is http://www.globalnerdy.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/yodaconditional.jpg [10:11:07] Key was added! [10:11:25] <_Meow> Huh? Already done? [10:11:27] uh ? that was all ? [10:11:48] <_Meow> Krinkle-away: Did you include the aliases? [10:11:56] Not yet, but even then, there is more [10:13:04] <_Meow> Let's see what's missing first [10:13:11] okay, second try [10:13:12] 1050 lines [10:13:14] !1.17wmf1 del [10:13:15] !1.17wmf1 is Branched on 3 February 2011 at r81457 from REL1_17 http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/81457. See also !1.17 [10:13:15] Successfully removed 1.17wmf1 [10:13:15] Key was added! [10:13:16] !1.18 del [10:13:16] Successfully removed 1.18 [10:13:17] !1.18 is MediaWiki 1.18 is out. Latest version is 1.18.1; ; REL1_18 branched on 18 July 2011 at r92475 ; [10:13:18] Key was added! [10:13:20] !1.18beta1 del [10:13:20] Successfully removed 1.18beta1 [10:13:20] <_Meow> Whaaaaaaa [10:13:20] !1.18beta1 is r101985, 4th November 2011 [10:13:20] Key was added! [10:13:22] !1.18rc1 del [10:13:22] Successfully removed 1.18rc1 [10:13:24] !1.18rc1 is r103545, 18th November 2011 [10:13:24] Key was added! [10:13:26] !1.18wmf1 del [10:13:26] Successfully removed 1.18wmf1 [10:13:26] !1.18wmf1 is Branched on 19 September 2011 at r97502 from REL1_18 [10:13:27] Key was added! [10:13:28] !1.19 del [10:13:29] Successfully removed 1.19 [10:13:30] !1.19 is 1.19.0 released 02 May 2012 http://http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/mediawiki-announce/2012-May/000115.html [10:13:30] Key was added! [10:13:32] !1.19wmf1 del [10:13:32] Unable to find the specified key in db [10:13:33] !1.19wmf1 is Branched on 10 February 2012 at r111189 from REL1_19 [10:13:33] Key was added! [10:13:35] !1.20 del [10:13:35] Successfully removed 1.20 [10:13:36] !1.20 is MediaWiki 1.20 is being deployed every 2 weeks to Wikimedia Foundation sites as it improves, and will be released as a tarball in the fall of 2012. See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_1.20 . [10:13:36] Key was added! [10:13:37] !2.0 del [10:13:38] Successfully removed 2.0 [10:13:38] !2.0 is Not gonna happen in your lifetime :) In the meantime, here's a wishlist: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:2.0 [10:13:38] Key was added! [10:13:40] !42 del [10:13:40] Successfully removed 42 [10:13:41] !42 is The answer to life, the universe and everything. [10:13:42] Key was added! [10:13:43] !5.3 del [10:13:43] Successfully removed 5.3 [10:13:45] !5.3 is Closures, early static bindings, beautiful... Wish we could require it, but doesn't look like that'll happen any time soon. [10:13:45] Key was added! [10:13:47] !5.4 del [10:13:47] Successfully removed 5.4 [10:13:48] !5.4 is Traits? In MediaWiki? Yeah right, we wish. [10:13:48] Key was added! [10:13:49] !500 del [10:13:49] Successfully removed 500 [10:13:50] !500 is the HTTP error code for an internal server error. It is rarely triggered by mediawiki itself and is more commonly a result of a faulty PHP setup or invalid or illegal options in htaccess. See Apache's error log for details. [10:13:51] Key was added! [10:13:53] !?> del [10:13:53] Successfully removed ?> [10:13:53] !?> is The PHP closing tag "?>" is never required at the end of a pure-code php file, and mediawiki developers actively remove it, as it often causes problems related to trailing whitespace, and "headers already sent" errors. See also http://news.php.net/php.general/280796 and !bom as well as https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17642 [10:13:54] Key was added! [10:13:55] !@ del [10:13:55] Successfully removed @ [10:13:56] !@ is @ is the "error suppression operator" and should never be used in code, ever. This is an example of a lazy coder: $from = @$options['from']; [10:13:56] Key was added! [10:13:58] !@param del [10:13:58] Successfully removed @param [10:13:59] !@param is @param $var type description [10:13:59] Key was added! [10:14:01] !abusefilter del [10:14:01] Successfully removed abusefilter [10:14:02] !abusefilter is AbuseFilter is an extension that tags and filters problematic edits. For more information, see [10:14:03] Key was added! [10:14:04] !access del [10:14:04] Successfully removed access [10:14:05] !access is For information on customizing user access, see . For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see . [10:14:06] Key was added! [10:14:07] !ack del [10:14:07] Unable to find the specified key in db [10:16:03] I forced quit it, I noticed it was setting `1, which wm-bot doesn't support [10:16:08] <_Meow> Yes [10:16:16] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "Introducing ContentHandler facility to support different content types in MediaWiki." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7716 [10:16:23] <_Meow> I just found this: bug => https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=`e1 [10:16:31] yeah, I know [10:16:41] Change abandoned: Daniel Kinzler; "Superceded by Ida9f51ec" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/6101 [10:16:45] Hm.. I wonder if wm-bot supports escaping $1 [10:17:37] <_Meow> Let's try it [10:17:49] <_Meow> !test123 is $$1 [10:17:49] Key was added! [10:17:53] <_Meow> !test123 4 [10:17:53] $4 [10:17:55] Nah, there is a faster way [10:18:00] http://svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki/trunk/tools/wmib [10:18:08] <_Meow> !test123 del [10:18:08] Successfully removed test123 [10:18:18] New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7716 [10:19:15] Nope, does not support it [10:20:31] <_Meow> !stack [10:21:29] <_Meow> !stack0 is !stack1 is stack2 [10:21:29] Key was added! [10:21:34] <_Meow> !stack0 [10:21:34] !stack1 is stack2 [10:21:47] <_Meow> $rm stack0 [10:21:52] <_Meow> !stack0 del [10:21:52] Successfully removed stack0 [10:23:39] <_Meow> How about a batch replace from `1 and `e1 to $1? [10:23:54] <_Meow> The mwbot brain doesn't contain $1 [10:24:21] <_Meow> So there's no need to escape it [10:24:44] Krinkle: I would prefer simple find&replace with regex for this task... [10:24:54] I am already on that guys.. [10:25:15] for (i = 5; i < 5; i += 1) { [10:25:16] val = val.replace( new RegExp( '`' + i, 'g' ), '$' + i ); [10:25:17] val = val.replace( new RegExp( '`e' + i, 'g' ), '$' + i ); [10:25:18] } [10:25:20] = 0 [10:25:46] irc.length [10:25:47] > 1060 [10:26:06] I'd rather not flood the channel, I'll wait for petan|wk to wake up or return [10:26:08] <_Meow> There's only `1, `2 and `e1 [10:26:19] yes, and the loop covers them :) [10:26:53] <_Meow> I'd prefer there .replace calls... [10:27:27] Krinkle: why not just s/`e?(\d)/\1/g ? [10:27:53] s/`e?(\d)/$\1/g ? [10:27:57] Because I hate regexes [10:28:45] <_Meow> val = val.replace('`1', '$1').replace('`2', '$2').replace('`e1', '$1') [10:28:53] <_Meow> Why regexes? [10:29:00] _Meow: That doesn't catch multiple occurences [10:29:06] within one string [10:29:09] <_Meow> Okay [10:29:19] hence regex with the /g flag [10:29:36] <_Meow> val = val.replace(/`1/g, '$1').replace(/`2/g, '$2').replace(/`e1/g, '$1') [10:29:55] _Meow: And I don't like repeating myself 3 times. So a single regex instead of 3 makes more sense [10:30:52] Krinkle: hi [10:31:12] petan|wk: Can we alias a brain dump from another channel? namely wikimedia-dev to mediawiki [10:31:22] New review: Nikerabbit; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/SiteMatrix] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7520 [10:31:24] Change merged: Nikerabbit; [mediawiki/extensions/SiteMatrix] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7520 [10:31:29] and temporarily set up a third one that also aliases it where I can flood add some commands [10:31:38] yes [10:31:44] sure [10:31:48] the main one is in mediawiki [10:31:52] petan|wk: awesome [10:31:54] @add #mediawiki-spam [10:34:44] !annoyinglittlebug [10:34:55] and it doesn't work here? [10:38:26] not yet [10:38:54] hey it's not right [10:39:06] (06:38:32 PM) petan|wk: !etherpad is http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/`e1 [10:39:14] no replacement is done [10:39:17] from ` to $ [10:39:23] liangent: he is importing the old db we had in this channel [10:39:42] the one wm-bot has now for #mediawiki [10:39:49] that bug was already in wm-bot , not new [10:40:02] after the #mediawiki db is imported into #mediawiki-spam [10:40:21] after that I will do my new import from the fresh mw-bot brain [10:40:38] and then we can nuke the #mediawiki brain of wm-bot, and set up the aliases [10:40:49] my import will have the correct replacements [10:40:50] 03(mod) Browser back button works poorly with expanded article sections - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36848 +comment (10Jon) [10:41:25] Krinkle: will your import overwrite existing entries? [10:41:36] Yes [10:41:46] it has 'del' before every 'is [10:41:55] some will probably return errors, but thats okay [10:42:03] will it be safe [10:42:10] ?? [10:42:12] for example different message with the same key [10:42:31] I don't think I care about that [10:42:37] all we need is to import what mw-bot had [10:42:47] whatever was in wm-bot until now doesn't matter, we never used that [10:42:47] 03(mod) JavascriptFFS shouldn't be building JSON manually - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31331 +comment (10Niklas Laxström) [10:43:09] when did wm-bot join this channel [10:43:42] I don't know, it might have been idling for a long while. but it was never the primary bot [10:43:47] Nikerabbit: ping [10:44:15] Krinkle: pong [10:44:19] <_Meow> !help [10:44:48] Nikerabbit: the Xml class also has a fairly solid JSON encoder [10:44:52] doesn't use Services_JSON, it is something home brew, but has a solid unit test suite. Should be pretty safe as well [10:44:58] can you check if that escapes it as well? [10:45:03] (in a bad way) [10:45:06] <_Meow> !help is just ask the programmer or take a look at the source code for yourself. [10:45:06] Key was added! [10:45:22] Krinkle: IRCC it doesn't, but it doesn't do pretty formatting either [10:45:31] Nikerabbit: yeah, true. [10:45:45] you could fork that function though [10:46:06] Or upgrade to PHP 5.4 [10:46:10] :D [10:46:18] Krinkle: I think I'll wait for PHP 5.4, it's not high priority bug [10:46:24] sure [10:46:26] np [10:46:30] not yet at least, maybe it will be when something breaks [10:46:51] but meh, I could easily shovel in the escapeJsString part for the key and value in the loop [10:47:05] 03(FIXED) Inline Styles: Template:Track_listing is unreadable on mobile view - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36076 +comment (10Jon) [10:47:30] Nikerabbit: right, it doesn't need arrays and multi-level [10:47:49] hello [10:48:38] cheers [10:48:49] <_Meow> Why do people say "hello" and then leave here all the time? [10:49:01] say is it possible to have two titles for mediawiki [10:49:42] <_Meow> Flexman: Do you want redirecting? [10:49:54] and i mean no rediriction - i really need articles with two titles [10:50:30] <_Meow> Flexman: In [[Article2]], write {{:Article1}} [10:51:15] <_Meow> Then [[Article1]] and [[Article2]] will display the same thing [10:51:59] @add mwbot [10:51:59] Permission denied [10:52:05] rarr :D [10:52:53] Krinkle: conversion in progress XD [10:53:51] one moment i check this [10:56:39] _Meow: No, the Auto completion won't search the 2nd site title then [10:57:12] the problem is that i included the mediawiki in this project: http://www.grazwiki.at/map/ [10:57:57] so in the moment street names are the "Title". but when i do not want to limit this on just one city i better should do coordinates as titles and street names as equal titles [10:58:19] city/streetname ? [10:58:59] Krinkle: wb XD [10:59:08] <_Meow> I don't think there's a way to do that [10:59:42] Flexman: can't just use the / ? city/street as pages? [11:00:13] petan|wk: got your msg [11:00:14] what's up? [11:00:48] mutante: hmm that might be difficult, the most clear point is the coordinate itself i guess [11:00:54] Flexman: or as another alternative could be one namespace per city theoretically, so City:Street [11:00:59] 03(mod) syslog::server (in test) unusuable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36748 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [11:03:11] Flexman: dunno, but it feels like you may want to get into semantic mediawiki for a project like mapping [11:04:11] Krinkle-away: http://bots.wmflabs.org/~petrb/db/%23mediawiki.htm [11:04:23] that is list of current db, you can check if there is something new, but I don't think so [11:04:35] it's sorted by time, not by alphabet [11:04:43] so last is what was recently added [11:05:35] 03(FIXED) Inline styles: Mobile Frontend doesn't display multiple horizontal images well - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36030 +comment (10Jon) [11:06:03] mutante: thanks. well i also use semantic mediawiki there. but have to figure out the best options for that project [11:06:09] btw how do you like that idea? [11:06:29] 03(mod) MobileFrontend extension should stop special-casing main page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30405 normal->15enhancement (10Jon) [11:07:04] Flexman: hmm, if all pages were just named by coordinates you could put them into matching "city" categories, and then pull lists of category members to display them nicely to humans. (dynamic page lists extension may be handy) [11:09:28] Flexman: i wouldn't know about semantic mediawiki options in detail, but yeah, i guess you want it for this idea [11:11:18] Flexman: i like it, you knew about this one? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/MediaWiki_extension [11:11:46] or is it that [11:12:47] New patchset: Amire80; "(bug 35811) Adding mediawiki.jqueryMsg for PLURAL" [mediawiki/extensions/MoodBar] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7719 [11:13:31] 03(ASSIGNED) the message moodbar-form-note-dynamic doesn't support PLURAL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35811 +comment (10Amir E. Aharoni) [11:13:38] mutante: originally it was semantic maps, but there objects did not reload when moving the map. now it is some JOSM/OSM interface [11:14:24] i think mediawiki is fine for that purpose but i have to find some way so that i cannot only limit it to one city and still have it useable. thanks for your hints [11:15:10] Flexman: what is the URL to your mw API? [11:15:12] 03(FIXED) MobileFrontend scrubs co-ordinate templates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36651 +comment (10Jon) [11:15:43] mutante: for example a normal article is to find here: http://www.grazwiki.at/index.php?title=Lendplatz_34 [11:16:45] Flexman: got it, i wanted the api.php. care if i add you to a statistics table? compares mediawikis by size etc... [11:17:09] mutante: sure you can do that :) [11:17:15] alright [11:18:06] where is your statistics table? [11:18:14] wikistats.wmflabs.org [11:18:26] New patchset: Amire80; "Adding .gitignore." [mediawiki/extensions/MoodBar] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7721 [11:19:31] mutante: fine. when will they be reloaded? [11:21:03] Flexman: they should be once a day, but adding a new wiki is manual [11:21:55] 03faidon * 10/trunk/debs/nginx/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [11:21:55] udplog: provide a way for the sequence number to be shared across nginx [11:21:56] worker processes. [11:21:56] Sequence numbering is still broken but this moves it into the right direction. [11:22:43] mutante: just curious to see my own stats in comparison :) [11:25:28] mutante: the spanish wikipedia has 0 images? [11:25:50] 03(NEW) negative numbers look weird in the feedback bubble remaining characters count - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36858 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Moodbar; (amir.aharoni) [11:26:48] Flexman: pasting full info in query :) [11:27:31] nah [11:27:32] mw-bot has all we need anyway [11:27:34] even if there was something new [11:27:35] oh, right. you won't read this until the flood is done.. [11:27:37] I feel like I'm in a scene of Back To The Future (or some other time-travel movie) [11:27:38] Well, hello dear future. This is 01:05 +02:00 speaking [11:27:40] Well, hello dear future. This is 13:05 +02:00 speaking [11:27:47] Flexman: probably because they disabled uploads and take all from commons [11:28:12] liangent: petan|wk https://gist.github.com/2700906 [11:28:37] ah isee [11:29:25] @reload [11:29:25] Channel config was reloaded [11:29:51] is there platform for linking with other people wo either are mediawiki maintainers or maybe are some people who like this or that project and want to help? [11:30:00] @reload [11:30:00] Channel config was reloaded [11:30:07] !bug [11:30:07] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=$1 [11:30:11] !gi [11:30:12] <_Meow> Flexman: #mediawiki ? [11:30:12] !git [11:30:12] MediaWiki development is using git, a distributed source control manager, starting on March 21st, 2012; details: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git_happens Instructions for using it: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Workflow To get an account: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Labsconsole_accounts [11:30:17] Krinkle-away: done [11:30:27] some kind of Kickstarter for open source non-commercial projects maybe :) [11:30:35] _Meow: ah yes. :-D [11:30:47] petan|wk: okay, aliases now [11:30:56] hold on [11:32:21] Krinkle-away: it's unalias to remove alias [11:32:29] !test alias faga [11:32:30] Successfully created [11:32:33] !test unalias [11:32:33] Alias removed [11:33:00] but it's ok because there are no aliases ;) [11:33:20] <_Meow> !stfw unalias [11:33:36] _Meow: I replaced the db with new one generated by Krinkle-away [11:33:44] <_Meow> Okay [11:33:46] whatever was !stfw it's gone [11:40:34] 03(FIXED) Redirected Mobile pages do not have rel='canonical' links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34240 +comment (10Jon) [11:41:07] 03(mod) Dolphin on Samsung Jet receives WAP content - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30827 +comment (10Jon) [11:41:47] 03(mod) Not properly detecting Nintendo DS UA - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30190 +comment (10Jon) [11:42:20] 03(FIXED) Beta contact us form links back to main page of non-mobile site from thank you page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36392 +comment (10Jon) [11:45:51] 03(mod) Grant Stewards to right to change group permissions on local wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36833 +comment (10Rd232) [11:49:22] is there any config flags or special procedures that must be enabled to have xmlrpc availiable on mw? [11:49:43] !g [11:50:24] @reload [11:50:25] Channel config was reloaded [11:50:26] !g [11:50:26] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#q,$1,n,z [11:51:00] Krinkle-away: there is some bug with shared db, so until I fix it I just copied the database [11:51:36] petan|wk: Did you wait for the aliases to complete? [11:51:41] yes [11:51:43] copied from which to which [11:51:50] copied from #mwbot to this one [11:52:02] ok [11:52:18] 03(mod) Provide default time zone selection in installer - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/19991 (10jeffwang16) [11:52:26] @regsearch .. 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This bot is running http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WM-Bot version wikimedia bot v. 1.1.4 source code licensed under GPL and located in wikimedia svn [11:54:04] @help help [11:54:04] Unknown command type @commands for a list of all commands I know [11:54:08] heh [11:54:13] @help trustadd [11:54:13] Info for trustadd: Make an entry to the access list, example @trustadd regex admin [11:54:19] 03(mod) Inline styles: Wikipedia:Contact us page is horribly formatted - new contact/feedback page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31591 +comment (10Jon) [11:54:33] @whoami [11:54:33] You are admin identified by name .*@wikimedia/Petrb [11:54:35] @trusted [11:54:35] I trust: petan\|w!.*@wikimedia/Petrb (2admin), .*@wikimedia/.* (2trusted), .*@wikipedia/.* (2trusted), .*@mediawiki/..* (2trusted), .*@wikipedia/MZMcBride (2admin), [11:54:55] !mwbot [11:54:55] Hi! I'm mwbot, a bot that was quickly whipped up by Daniel Cannon (AmiDaniel) to help out around #mediawiki. Some quick help is at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mwbot, you can find all my source code at http://amidaniel.com/viewvc/trunk/MWBot/?root=svn [11:55:00] !mwbot del [11:55:01] Successfully removed mwbot [11:55:01] @trusted .*@wikimedia/Krinkle admin [11:55:01] I trust: petan\|w!.*@wikimedia/Petrb (2admin), .*@wikimedia/.* (2trusted), .*@wikipedia/.* (2trusted), .*@mediawiki/..* (2trusted), .*@wikipedia/MZMcBride (2admin), [11:55:07] @trustadd .*@wikimedia/Krinkle admin [11:55:07] Successfuly added .*@wikimedia/Krinkle [11:55:49] mwbot was the the bot previously used in #mediawiki See also https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/mwbot [11:55:54] !mwbot is mwbot was the the bot previously used in #mediawiki See also https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/mwbot [11:55:54] Key was added! [11:56:01] !me [11:56:07] !you [11:56:07] mwbot was the the bot previously used in #mediawiki See also https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/mwbot [11:56:14] !you del [11:56:14] Unable to find the specified key in db [11:56:16] !wmbot [11:56:20] !wm-bot [11:56:29] <_Meow> !you unalias [11:56:29] Alias removed [11:56:37] aha! [11:56:44] !google [11:56:44] You haven't googled it yet. < http://www.google.com > [11:56:51] :) [11:57:10] <_Meow> !3x [11:57:14] !google del [11:57:14] Successfully removed google [11:57:18] <_Meow> !3x is $1 $1 $1 [11:57:18] Key was added! [11:57:18] !google is https://google.com/search?q=$1 [11:57:18] Key was added! [11:57:27] <_Meow> !3x Hello [11:57:27] Hello Hello Hello [11:57:39] !google del https://google.com/search?q=$1 [11:57:39] Successfully removed google [11:57:45] !google is https://www.google.com/search?q=$1 [11:57:45] Key was added! [11:57:46] !google x [11:57:46] https://www.google.com/search?q=x [11:58:02] <_Meow> !google !@#$%^&*() [11:58:02] https://www.google.com/search?q=!@#$%^&*() [11:58:03] !botbtrain [11:58:25] _Meow: Where the url ends depends on your irc cleint [11:58:35] <_Meow> !google MediaWiki&lang=xx-klingon [11:58:35] https://www.google.com/search?q=MediaWiki&lang=xx-klingon [11:59:04] !brain [11:59:04] http://toolserver.org/~mwbot/botbrain.html [11:59:05] @botbrain [11:59:10] <_Meow> !google MediaWiki&hl=xx-klingon [11:59:10] https://www.google.com/search?q=MediaWiki&hl=xx-klingon [11:59:12] !brain [11:59:12] http://toolserver.org/~mwbot/botbrain.html [11:59:15] !brain del [11:59:15] Unable to find the specified key in db [11:59:19] <_Meow> Aha [11:59:22] !botbrain [11:59:22] http://toolserver.org/~mwbot/botbrain.html [11:59:28] !brain unalias [11:59:28] Alias removed [11:59:33] !botbrain del [11:59:33] Successfully removed botbrain [11:59:37] <_Meow> No escaping? [12:00:57] <_Meow> !google here there everywhere [12:00:57] https://www.google.com/search?q=here [12:01:02] !wm-bot is Hello, I'm wm-bot. The database for this channel is published at http://bots.wmflabs.org/~petrb/db/%23mediawiki.htm More about WM-Bot: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WM-Bot [12:01:02] Key was added! [12:01:13] !wmbot alias wm-bot [12:01:13] Successfully created [12:01:16] !botbrain alias wm-bot [12:01:16] Successfully created [12:01:18] !bot alias wm-bot [12:01:18] Successfully created [12:01:35] !brain alias wm-bot [12:01:35] Successfully created [12:01:37] !you alias wm-bot [12:01:37] Successfully created [12:02:05] !author krinkle [12:02:05] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#q,owner:krinkle,n,z [12:02:23] New review: Santhosh; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/MoodBar] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7719 [12:02:29] !wm-bot [12:02:29] Hello, I'm wm-bot. The database for this channel is published at http://bots.wmflabs.org/~petrb/db/%23mediawiki.htm More about WM-Bot: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WM-Bot [12:02:30] !wm-bot del [12:02:31] Successfully removed wm-bot [12:02:33] 03(NEW) Add new function - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36859 minor; MediaWiki extensions: GlobalUsage; (crochet.david) [12:02:42] !wm-bot is Hello, I'm wm-bot. The database for this channel is published at http://bots.wmflabs.org/~petrb/db/%23mediawiki.htm More about WM-Bot: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/wm-bot [12:02:42] Key was added! [12:02:46] !brain [12:02:46] Hello, I'm wm-bot. The database for this channel is published at http://bots.wmflabs.org/~petrb/db/%23mediawiki.htm More about WM-Bot: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/wm-bot [12:04:12] !search is http://bots.wmflabs.org/~wm-bot/searchlog/ [12:04:13] Key exist! [12:04:27] <_Meow> !search [12:04:28] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Search/$1?go=Go [12:04:38] !chansearch is http://bots.wmflabs.org/~wm-bot/searchlog/ [12:04:38] Key was added! [12:04:51] !searchlog alias chansearch [12:04:51] Alias is already existing! [12:04:57] 03(mod) Grant Stewards to right to change group permissions on local wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36833 +comment (10Krinkle) [12:04:58] !searchlog [12:04:59] https://toolserver.org/~mwbot/ [12:05:09] <_Meow> !searchlog unalias [12:05:09] Alias removed [12:05:14] <_Meow> !searchlog alias chansearch [12:05:15] Successfully created [12:05:59] <_Meow> !wikibugs [12:05:59] is awesome! [12:06:07] <_Meow> What? [12:06:36] okay, Krinkle out. Up for this afternoon: Watching the Batman movies (all 5 + Dark Knight) with a fwend :D [12:07:26] !search rpc [12:07:26] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Search/rpc?go=Go [12:13:01] <_Meow> !w [12:13:04] <_Meow> !wikipedia [12:13:04] A massively multiplayer online role-playing game (MMORPG) where players can click on the "edit this page" tab at the top of each level and add quips of information. Then, the Wikipedia Game Masters (GMs) check over these "edits" and if they are bad, the player is sent to "WikiJail," where they must appease the god Jimbo in order to escape. However, good "edits" gain the player "contributions", the much sought-after currency of Wikipedi [12:13:15] <_Meow> Well done. [12:15:09] 03(mod) ISBN Special:BookSources page - world map doesn't work on mobile site - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/20030 +comment (10Jon) [12:15:19] !log [12:15:19] Wrong channel! [12:15:21] heh [12:15:58] <_Meow> !mediawiki [12:15:58] MediaWiki is a free software wiki package originally written for Wikipedia. It is now used by several other projects of the non-profit Wikimedia Foundation and by many other wikis. You can find out more about it at http://www.mediawiki.org [12:16:34] @regsearch \/www [12:16:34] Results (found 288): !, $wgserver, 1.17, 1.17wmf1, 1.18, 1.20, 2.0, abusefilter, access, actionpaths, actions, adminsettings, adsense, ajax, amend, ampersand, analytics, ancient, annoyinglittlebug, api, apiclient, apiinternal, auth, authentication, autoblock, autoconfirmed, autoload, backup, berlin, blank, bleedingedge, blocking, boilerplate, branch, branchpoints, browser, cache, captcha, cat, categories, centralauth, charinsert, checkuser, cite, cms, code, codereview, collapse, commit, compare, config, cookies, cooluris, copyhelp, copying, copyinghelp, copytemplates, createpage, css, db, dbtable, debug, deleteuser, deploymentqueue, developers, devsecurity, diff3, dismissablesitenotice, displaytitle, documentation, domdocument, downgrade, download, dpl, dumphtml, echo, editbuttons, edittoken, email, enotif, es, events, exclamation, ext, extensiondistributor, extensionmatrix, extensions, externalauth, externaleditor, externalimages, extranamespace, faq, farm, feeds, filecache, filetype, fileurl, flaggedrevs, flash, footer, foreignfilerepos, gadget, gadgets, gallery, git, git-access, git-review, gitaccount, gitcheat, googleanalytics, gsoc, hacker, hello, hetdeploy, hidetabs, highlight, hook, hooks, howto, html, i18n, icon, iframe, imageauth, imagelink, imagemagic, imagemap, images, img_auth, import, importhelp, importsources, info, inputbox, install, instantcommons, interface, internalapi, invalidupload, javascript, jobqueue, jquery, labs, langlinks, ldap, ldapdebug, ldapsupport, lists, logo, lua, magicwords, man, manapi, mediawiki, meetings, memcached, mime, moderation, move, multiplewiki, mw, mwhelp, namespaces, networkauth, newwindow, noshell, notes, nuke, nullpath, ogg, openid, oversight, package, packagefix, packages, padindex, pagecss, paranoid, parser, parserconf, parserfunctions, passwordsql, patch, pdhelp, performance, php, php4, phpmyadmin, phpsucks, pipetrick, player, poem, ppp, prefsrant, preventaccess, profiling, protect, protocols, punehackathon, putty, pywikipediabot, query, rangeblocking, rcbot, recaptcha, redirect, renameuser, repeat, resetpassword, resourceloader, revdelete, revert, reviewqueue, rewriteproblems, rfc, rights, roadmap, robots, rollback, safemode, sandbox, sb, scap, scarytranscluding, schema, search, security, selinux, semanticmediawiki, sharedlogins, shorturl, shorturls, sidebar, skingallery, skinning, smtp, smw, songs, sortkey, sourceforge, spam, specialpages, start, stringfunctions, subpages, subversion, sul, sumanah, support, supported, svg, svn-rev, svnauthor, svnprops, syntax, syntaxhighlight, table, tabs, tag, templateproblems, templates, testing, threads, thumb, tidy, timezone, topic, transclusion, ui, uninstall, update.php, upgrade, upload, uploadbyurl, userapproval, variables, version, wallofshame, webinspector, welcome, wg, wikieditor, wmf, wysiwyg, xampp, yoda, mwbot, google, [12:16:50] @regsearch ]] [12:16:50] Results (found 8): anonnotice, colon, csshideheader, imagelink, interwiki, javascript, sidebar, sitenotice, [12:16:52] @regsearch [[ [12:16:52] This is pretty bad regex [12:16:58] :o [12:17:27] <_Meow> !commons [12:17:37] <_Meow> !wikimedia [12:17:38] MediaWiki not Wikimedia; Wikimedia is the foundation, MediaWiki is the software. See !mediawiki and !wmf [12:17:46] <_Meow> !wikimediacommons [12:17:52] @search common [12:17:52] Results (found 7): 500, access, botnoob, gerriterror, invalidupload, rights, templateproblems, [12:19:49] <_Meow> !commons is Wikimedia Commons is an online hard disk with almost infinite capability. You can upload anything you want there as long as you follow its policy. [12:19:49] Key was added! [12:23:58] !mediawikimedia [12:28:12] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Maps] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7584 [12:28:14] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Maps] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7584 [12:29:17] <_Meow> !wiki [12:29:17] A wiki is a collaborative website which can be directly edited by anyone with access to it. Ward Cunningham, developer of the first wiki WikiWikiWeb, originally described it as "the simplest online database that could possibly work". Wikipedia is one of the best known wikis. [12:29:19] 12http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page (Requested by _Meow) [12:29:19] <_Meow> !wikiwiki [12:29:46] <_Meow> Huh? [12:30:12] <_Meow> !wiki Test [12:30:12] A wiki is a collaborative website which can be directly edited by anyone with access to it. Ward Cunningham, developer of the first wiki WikiWikiWeb, originally described it as "the simplest online database that could possibly work". Wikipedia is one of the best known wikis. [12:30:14] 12http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Test (Requested by _Meow) [12:30:28] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Maps] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7710 [12:30:42] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Maps] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7710 [12:42:00] huh, with this code I get an A object, not B? [12:42:00] class A{ static function g(){ return new self(); } } [12:42:01] class B extends A{} $s=B::g(); [12:42:37] <_Meow> liangent: Maybe you should override it in class B [12:43:11] <_Meow> If I'm right, overriding static functions are allowed in PHP [12:45:38] I'm talking about php's silliness(?). this python code works as I wish: (some newlines stripped) [12:45:39] >>> class A(object): ... @classmethod ... def g(c): return c() [12:45:39] >>> class B(A): pass >>> B.g() [12:45:39] <__main__.B object at 0x7fe4bd206ad0> [12:46:34] anyway c&p makes code ugly [12:48:25] <_Meow> liangent: What about programming languages that don't even have a syntax for referring the current class? [12:50:45] that should be another case I guess [12:57:14] 03(mod) Problem with non-ASCII characters and long requests - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36839 +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger) [13:07:10] 03(NEW) Search function of Chinese (zh) Wikipedia is too weak - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36860 normal; Wikimedia: User survey; (jack-xuetianxiang) [13:10:13] 03(mod) Search function of Chinese (zh) Wikipedia is too weak - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36860 +accessibility (10shi zhao) [13:11:24] 03(mod) Search function of Chinese (zh) Wikipedia is too weak - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36860 -accessibility +upstream; +comment (10Liangent) [13:21:39] 03(NEW) Mediawiki-distributors mailing list - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36861 normal; Wikimedia: Mailing lists; (mah) [13:22:41] 03(mod) Auto-link for Bugzilla IDs in Gerrit should also recognize capital "B" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36827 +comment (10Chad H.) [13:24:44] 03(mod) SUL account recently created with no attached or unattached accounts, and undeletable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35792 +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger) [13:37:07] eh, hi, I hope nobody opposes a dumb question: is it easy/feasible to extract single articles from pages-meta-history.xml.7z english wikipedia dumps? [13:37:31] I guess it's not as easy as 'tar x' or the like, as I see the bz2 version is just a single xml file [13:37:54] yes it's possible to import this to existing wiki [13:38:03] 03(mod) Search function of Chinese (zh) Wikipedia is too weak - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36860 (10jack-xuetianxiang) [13:38:03] @search dump [13:38:03] Results (found 4): dump, dumphtml, import, mwdumper, [13:38:09] !mwdumper [13:38:09] `!mw Mwdumper`` [13:38:14] !import [13:38:14] To import pages a few pages, use Special:Import - you can also import pages directly from another wiki (see !importsources). For mass imports, use importDump.php - see for details. NOTE: when using content from another wiki, follow the LICENSE TERMS, especially, attribute source and authors! [13:38:50] <_Meow> I think he wants to extract it rather than import it... [13:39:02] you can only extract wiki syntax [13:39:13] that mean source code of pages [13:39:35] you can modify source of existing import tools to do that [13:39:40] <_Meow> poke liangent [13:39:48] who [13:39:57] <_Meow> Sorry [13:40:11] <_Meow> I just want to remind liangent of the recent wikibugs change [13:42:50] _Meow: I want to extract a subset so I can then import [13:42:58] I was really wondering if it was possible to extract an XML for a single article from the full dump without having terabytes available to unpack the whole dump [13:43:22] njsg: yes [13:43:27] kind of, avoid having to get each individual dump from wikipedia and playing with the revision limits [13:43:29] use gzip -c [13:43:45] for example create some script which filter out only what you need [13:44:01] send ouput of gzip -c to it, make it save only what you need to a file [13:44:24] <_Meow> Since the result is an XML file, maybe you should consider using XPath [13:44:33] so that it unzip the xml to memory and send unzipped data to terminal, not to hard disk [13:44:33] gjmgm [13:44:54] ........ [13:44:57] GeRard: hello [13:45:12] <_Meow> ……。 [13:45:18] I hope that wasn't their nickserv password or something [13:45:53] njsg: I have been working with dump a lot [13:46:09] you don't need large hdd [13:46:49] 03(mod) Spammy failed to merge messages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36684 +comment (10Chad H.) [13:49:10] petan|wk: do you happen to know how much would a full revision history dump take? just curious, so far I only saw the warnings about "several terabytes" [13:49:26] njsg: take what [13:49:28] space or time [13:49:38] I never extracted it to disk [13:49:52] space. oh. [13:49:54] but I guess it's about 5 TB just my guess [13:50:11] apergos knows that for sure [13:50:39] in fact I don't [13:50:41] well, time is also a matter of where in the compressed data is what I want, it can as well be 1 minute as, hmm, well, a longer time [13:50:44] because I never uncompres sone of these [13:50:52] nor do wc -c on it [13:51:21] njsg: saving it to disk will definitely not make it faster [13:51:38] thanks for the gzip -c tip, that's really just what tar x would do with a .tar.gz, it was a bit stupid of me not to think of that [13:52:48] petan|wk: sure, just for a couple articles, requesting those directly will definitely avoid the overload of reading through the compressed dump [13:52:52] if u really need to work on disk you better use importDump.php and save it as table [13:53:01] working with mysql is not so hard as xml [13:53:28] then I should perhaps go RTFM a bit and just get the whole articles from wikipedia.org [13:53:42] njsg: if you need only articles you know, just open Special:Export on wikipedia and make your own dump [13:54:14] the tool I'm working with is interacting with a local wikimedia, so as wikimedia takes xml, xml is fine for me [13:55:12] 03(mod) SUL account recently created with no attached or unattached accounts, and undeletable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35792 +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger) [13:56:22] wait, the only thing I have to do to override the 1000 revision export limit is to add the "history" parameter? (and is this acceptable?) [13:57:40] New patchset: GWicke; "Big token transform framework overhaul part 2" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7725 [13:58:29] <_Meow> wikimedia? [13:59:37] the export? from english wikipedia (or you meant what do I mean by "local wikimedia"?) [14:00:19] <_Meow> Do you mean MediaWiki (the software)? [14:00:50] yes [14:01:18] <_Meow> njsg: Okay then [14:01:36] I installed a local copy to avoid hitting enwp.org with a bunch of API requests (as I am retrieving the content for all revisions) [14:03:50] 03(NEW) ( talk | contribs ) for registered users, but not for IP users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36862 minor; MediaWiki: Recent changes; (crochet.david) [14:06:43] 03(mod) Register new email: Cannot format velocity template com/google/gerrit/server/mail/RegisterNewEmail.vm - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36632 +comment (10Chad H.) [14:07:20] 03(mod) ( talk | contribs ) for registered users, but not for IP users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36862 +comment (10Marcin Cieślak) [14:08:42] 03(mod) Mediawiki-distributors mailing list - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36861 normal->15enhancement (10Thehelpfulone) [14:09:59] 03(mod) "Diff All Side-by-Side" always opens diffs based on Base - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36473 (10Chad H.) [14:17:37] 03(NEW) Enwikisource: flood option that administrators can apply - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36863 normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (billinghurst) [14:18:43] 03(mod) Add new function - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36859 +comment (10Thehelpfulone) [14:19:41] 03(mod) PDF on gu.wikisource doesn't show characters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35668 +comment (10Dhaval) [14:20:12] 03(mod) Login display should show a help message below the token input - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36841 (10Thehelpfulone) [14:24:11] 03(mod) Enwikisource: flood option that administrators can apply - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36863 normal->15enhancement; +shell; +comment (10Thehelpfulone) [14:24:19] 03(mod) PDF on gu.wikisource doesn't show characters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35668 +comment (10Volker Haas) [14:25:41] 14(INVALID) ( talk | contribs ) for registered users, but not for IP users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36862 +comment (10Thehelpfulone) [14:27:09] 03(mod) Enable bureaucrats to remove adminship on nn.wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36856 +comment (10Christoffer) [14:32:01] hexmode: guillom - ping re meeting [14:32:38] sumanah: yep, G+ wasn't showing the hangout until just now; [14:32:45] sorry guillom [14:32:49] np [14:44:50] 03(mod) SUL account recently created with no attached or unattached accounts, and undeletable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35792 (10Rob Lanphier) [14:48:27] 03(mod) Problem with non-ASCII characters and long requests - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36839 (10Rob Lanphier) [14:52:03] 14(DUP) API mangles certain UTF characters when querying 16 or more pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36799 +comment (10Krenair) [14:52:03] 03(mod) Problem with non-ASCII characters and long requests - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36839 +comment (10Krenair) [14:57:02] New patchset: GWicke; "Big token transform framework overhaul part 2" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7725 [15:05:47] someone please ping me when sumana shows up again [15:06:00] New patchset: GWicke; "Big token transform framework overhaul part 2" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7725 [15:12:08] New review: GWicke; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7725 [15:12:10] Change merged: GWicke; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7725 [15:19:11] 03(mod) Gerrit needs a very wide screen - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36471 +comment (10Chad H.) [15:20:25] http://gerrit-dev.wmflabs.org/r/#/c/9/1/.gitmodules [15:20:34] brr, wrong window [15:25:05] sumanah: hi [15:25:17] hi drecodeam [15:25:57] my badges are complete, and I have made a version without the triangle at the bottom. How should I put it forward to the community for review ? [15:26:06] someone please ping me when sumana shows up again [15:26:16] Lydia_WMDE: hi [15:26:23] thanks Krenair [15:26:25] np [15:26:41] sumanah: hey :) query in a min [15:26:45] Krenair: thx! [15:26:49] drecodeam: I figure you can just put it on the Berlin hackathon talk page, and email heather about it [15:27:37] ok sumanah ! and is there any other graphic design work that would be carried on for the event? I would love to get involved in it [15:27:50] drecodeam: I don't know! Heather Walls would know. [15:28:11] heatherw: can you help me in this ? [15:30:00] drecodeam: what time is it in California? :) [15:30:16] pardon drecodeam? [15:30:24] oh you're up, heatherw ! hi [15:30:29] hi! [15:31:12] where is your badge? [15:31:32] heatherw: I wanted to know is there any graphic design work which is being carried for the hackathon ? [15:31:36] heatherw: one sec [15:32:13] heatherw: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Drecodeam/Berlin_Hackathon_Badge [15:32:25] give me a minute, I am uploading 2 new versions also [15:33:15] heatherw: from the last few minutes of backscroll.... "and is there any other graphic design work that would be carried on for the event? I would love to get involved in it " [15:33:39] i saw that, sumanah, thanks :) [15:33:46] ok :) [15:34:32] 03(FIXED) Gerrit needs a very wide screen - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36471 (10Niklas Laxström) [15:37:59] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "Introducing ContentHandler facility to support different content types in MediaWiki." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7716 [15:38:12] drecodeam: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=design%2C%20&query_format=advanced&keywords_type=allwords&list_id=115921&resolution=--- [15:39:35] the design work for the hackathon has been completed and approved for some weeks/months and most of it is in production in some form, drecodeam. but thank you for offering :) [15:39:59] New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7716 [15:40:55] 03(mod) [EmbedVideo] Fatal error: Class 'Hmtl' not found in EmbedVideo.hooks.php on line 119 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36845 +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger) [15:43:13] ohh heatherw, then I would try and get involved earlier the next time. By the way i have uploaded the badges : http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Drecodeam/Berlin_Hackathon_Badge#Badge_for_Berlin_Hackathon [15:43:24] 03(mod) ইমার ঠার/বিষ্ণুপ্রিয়া মণিপুরী is a very long name for a language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36851 (10Mark A. Hershberger) [15:44:15] drecodeam: you could always do some design work for the 19 May Bangalore event [15:44:21] drecodeam: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Bangalore_Hackathon_May_2012 [15:44:26] srikanthlogic: ^^^ [15:44:53] drecodeam: you are welcome :) [15:45:03] drecodeam: the Bugzilla link I gave you is full of issues that require some design help :D [15:45:34] 03(mod) Page protection leads to issue in translatable pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32983 +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger) [15:45:42] drecodeam: I suggest that you link to those badges on the Berlin Hackathon talk page [15:46:05] sumanah: ya I am looking into them right now. I am afraid I can only solve ones which take less time as I am occupied with my GSoC work and University examination. I would look at them as soon as my exam ends the next week. [15:46:17] sumanah: yes I would do that [15:46:30] drecodeam: well, in some cases, you could just provide advice and suggestions rather than codfe [15:46:32] code, I mean [15:46:41] this is not an assignment of any kind [15:46:45] srikanthlogic: Can you let me know what all work I can help you guys in ? [15:47:01] drecodeam: just information, in case you find yourself hungry for more design thinking opportunities [15:47:10] sumanah: definetly I would look into them . [15:47:36] drecodeam: example: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24457 Icon for Wikipedia Mobile for iPhone 4 [15:48:00] * drecodeam Sumanah is a pandora box, always comes up with just the work you would be interested in.  [15:48:14] * sumanah laughs [15:49:00] drecodeam: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30878 one more icon bug :D [15:49:00] hi slevinski [15:49:28] slevinski: is the Gerrit login working fine for you? [15:50:11] still digging into Gerrit, but working so far. Thanks [15:50:21] 03(mod) Article Feedback Page - Integration between filter links and drop-down menu - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36854 +aftv5-1.5 (10Pau Giner) [15:50:32] slevinski: cool. Feel free to ask questions if you have any [15:50:42] 03(mod) no choice for PD-old-70 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34531 +comment (10Mark Holmquist) [15:50:42] srikanthlogic: looking into it [15:51:33] drecodeam: if you want to, you could turn the https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Bangalore_Hackathon_May_2012 page into a nicer-looking page more like https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/India_Hackathon_2011 or https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Berlin_Hackathon_2012 [15:52:21] drecodeam: another hackathon page for an upcoming event: https://wikimania2012.wikimedia.org/wiki/Hackathon [15:52:35] (these are linked to from https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_developer_meetings ) [15:53:06] sumanah: ya i already have that page on watchlist :) [15:53:07] New patchset: Reha Sterbin; "Central feedback page" [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7119 [15:53:27] I missed the deadline for the wikimania subsidy application [15:53:36] if you like making badges, I imagine some of those Wikimania participants might like to use them. No promises. [15:53:42] drecodeam: THIS year. Next year you won't :) [15:54:46] sumanah: definetly not, but I had to ask you something, If I can somehow manage to get my travel expense, is it possible that Wikimedia can provide me the accomodation now ? [15:55:07] drecodeam: accommodation for Wikimania for THIS year? [15:55:13] sumanah: yes [15:55:24] gerrit question: i have two commits, one of which depends on the other. i just fixed a bug and added a new patch set to the bottom commit. the top commit is marked as depending on the previous patch set. how do i rebase it to use the new one? [15:55:28] 03(mod) Page protection leads to issue in translatable pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32983 +comment (10Niklas Laxström) [15:55:34] having trouble with Resource Loader. I have a parser hook and I need to load CSS. I included the wgOut addModules in my render function. It works when I preview the edit, but doesn't work when viewing the saved page. Looking all over, but I can't find how to add this correctly. [15:55:54] drecodeam: that is a good question. I think I can't promise anything ... have you looked at the chapter scholarships? [15:56:00] drecodeam: [15:56:01] https://wikimania2012.wikimedia.org/wiki/Scholarships#Chapter_Scholarships [15:56:07] slevinski: you need to add those modules to the parser output [15:56:30] slevinski, or add these styles unconditionally [15:56:50] you probably have $parser, so do $parser->getOutput()->addModules( ... ) instead [15:57:33] Sumanah, hey! [15:57:44] hi Barebone [15:57:46] Please see PM. :-) [15:57:50] * sumanah has to be off to a meeting in a second [15:58:58] <^demon> I'm asking for feedback, but if there's no downsides we're totally enabling https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/Documentation/config-gerrit.html#_a_id_changemerge_a_section_changemerge [15:59:08] sumanah: The application deadline is closed, I guess I can put it up on the talk page ?? [15:59:13] <^demon> "Submit" won't show up unless a dry merge succeeds :) [15:59:22] drecodeam: all the app deadlines are closed? for all those chapter scholarships? [16:00:08] sumanah: there is none for Indian Geographical region [16:00:41] ^demon: wouldn't that be confusing? [16:00:44] drecodeam: at this point I know less than all the people who run Wikimania [16:00:56] drecodeam: regarding those chapter scholarships [16:01:03] same problem with $parser->getOutput()->addModules, works for preview when editing, but not after the page is saved. [16:01:08] ^demon: btw is there any change that automerge is going to mysteriously unbreak anytime soon? [16:01:15] sumanah: whom can I contact then ? [16:01:18] I have heard that several of those chapters will fund people who are not in their region, but other than that.... [16:01:31] drecodeam: as a thought experiment: if you had to guess, without asking me, whom would you guess? [16:01:41] <^demon> Nikerabbit: No. [16:01:51] 03(mod) Fatal error PageTranslationHooks.php on line 414 during page creation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36846 (10Mark A. Hershberger) [16:01:51] ^demon: so sad [16:01:54] <^demon> Wait. Change or chance? [16:02:04] chance [16:02:14] <^demon> Always a chance. No changes pending though. [16:02:35] <^demon> Always a chance it will unbreak as mysteriously as it broke. [16:02:44] * sumanah needs to leave for a meeting [16:02:48] perhaps if I try to poke my Git master voodoo doll? [16:02:56] 03(mod) Article Feedback Page - Integration between filter links and drop-down menu - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36854 normal->15enhancement (10Mark A. Hershberger) [16:03:18] 03(mod) MathJax treats percent sign (%) as start of a comment - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36855 (10Mark A. Hershberger) [16:03:53] 03(mod) Browser back button works poorly with expanded article sections - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36848 (10Mark A. Hershberger) [16:04:05] <^demon> Nikerabbit: Is it a voodoo doll of me? [16:04:31] <^demon> That might explain why I don't sleep well at night :( [16:05:47] 03(mod) negative numbers look weird in the feedback bubble remaining characters count - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36858 (10Mark A. Hershberger) [16:08:36] success! Added an initialization rounting to wgExtensionFunctions [16:08:44] New patchset: Reha Sterbin; "Bug fix: Relevance score was being replaced, not adjusted (bug 36768)" [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7728 [16:09:39] 03(FIXED) Article Feedback Page - Relevance Score Math Questions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36768 +comment (10Reha Sterbin) [16:12:36] slevinski, that's the WORST way [16:13:14] I'm open to suggestions, but nothing else worked. [16:18:39] 03(mod) On Gerrit's Review screen, change text "Cover Message" to "Comment" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35593 (10Chad H.) [16:18:52] slevinski, if Nike's suggestion didn't work, you're doing something wrong [16:19:20] ^demon: :) [16:29:52] 03(NEW) requesting a new component "VIAF" in bugzilla product "Tools" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36864 normal; Wikimedia: Bugzilla; (mail) [16:30:04] 03(mod) requesting a new component "VIAF" in bugzilla product "Tools" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36864 (10T. Gries) [16:32:59] 14(WFM) Commit message on diff not updated after a new one is provided with --amend - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35816 +comment (10Chad H.) [16:34:14] 03(mod) requesting a new component "VIAF" in bugzilla product "Tools" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36864 +comment (10Thehelpfulone) [16:36:01] 03(mod) Article Feedback Page - Filter Count Issues - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36769 +comment (10Fabrice Florin) [16:36:33] 03(mod) Article Feedback Page - Filter Count Issues - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36769 (10Fabrice Florin) [16:40:10] 03(mod) Problem with non-ASCII characters and long requests - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36839 +comment (10Brad Jorsch) [16:42:34] 03(NEW) Article Feedback - Relevance Score Issues - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36865 normal; MediaWiki extensions: ArticleFeedbackv5; (fflorin) [16:43:22] 03(mod) Article Feedback - Relevance Score Issues - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36865 +aftv5-1.5 (10Fabrice Florin) [16:47:43] Hi, i get the following error in Apache when trying to install [16:47:44] Parent: child process exited with status 255 -- Restarting. [16:49:09] Guest52729: how is PHP enabled in your apache? [16:49:19] wamp :/ [16:49:36] 2.2D [16:49:40] 64bit [16:50:58] I don't know that. I assume this is mod_php5 or something? [16:51:22] wampserver [16:51:28] its a bundle for noobs like me :) [16:52:01] heh yeah but that's not a problem yet [16:52:06] apparently that error log is not much use, going to try to get PhP to log the error [16:52:14] I remember helping somebody setting up sth like that last summer [16:52:29] will come back with a (hopefully more useful) php error log once i have one :) [16:52:30] Guest52729: yes, locate php.ini and there are some setings [16:53:00] Guest52729: I've seen somebody coming here and reporting incompatible version of mod_php and some of PHP modules [16:53:08] reinstall helped [16:53:14] but you should check first [16:53:30] ok, thanks [16:54:31] Guest52729: you can put one simple file in your webroot [16:54:35] Guest52729: and check if that one works [16:54:55] oh, yea, php works [16:55:16] i get as far as the mediawiki setup page [16:55:27] but the "please set up the wiki first" crashes [16:57:19] hmm, that page uses almost no PHP modules [16:57:42] Guest52729, and if you go directly to /mw-config ? [16:57:45] MaxSem: let's see if mod_php5 works at all [16:57:54] need help with Narayam configuration. // siebrand, Nikerabbit, aharoni, srikanthlogic anyone around? [16:58:05] hi shantanoo [16:58:23] aharoni: hi [16:58:28] maybe it's mod_somethingelse [16:58:45] i have installed mediawiki in my user web directory on local host. [16:59:03] have put the Narayam (git checkout) in extensions directory [16:59:23] how do you mean go directly to /mw-config [16:59:30] 03(mod) No longer able to scroll tables left -> right on m. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36844 +comment (10Jon) [17:00:19] aharoni: added http://dpaste.com/748561/ lines in LocalSettings.php [17:00:22] the installer resides in the /mw-config directory [17:00:50] using apache, which comes by default on mac osx. [17:01:09] but i am not able to see the input selection box [17:02:25] there is only index.php in that directoy [17:02:40] any idea where is should look for debugging? [17:03:43] Guest52729, so visit that index.php [17:04:42] The connection was reset [17:04:47] is all i get from firefox [17:05:06] so it crashes again [17:05:24] yea [17:05:50] apache gets reset due to some error in whatever is running on that page [17:05:51] I guess it's either reinstall or slow debugging by gradual removal of all Apache or PHP modules [17:06:09] did you change the WAMP config? [17:06:10] i read somewhere about a loop in a file [17:06:21] its default, we've reinstalled it [17:06:27] (a few times now) [17:07:02] 03(mod) requesting a new component "VIAF" in bugzilla product "Tools" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36864 +comment (10T. Gries) [17:07:54] sigh [17:08:04] hmm? [17:08:16] I use MW on Windows with XAMPP, works niice [17:08:31] xampp? ok, will try that :) [17:08:34] * AaronSchulz uses WAMP at home [17:08:43] does it work with 1.19? [17:08:52] yes, if I recall [17:09:00] what version of wamp? [17:09:14] wampserver 2, I don't know the exact number [17:09:20] hmm [17:09:26] change any settings? [17:09:38] * AaronSchulz is on an ubuntu box right now [17:09:45] I don't recall hacking any settings [17:09:50] hmmmmm, ok [17:10:19] just make sure you don't mix 64 and32 bit stuff ;) [17:10:50] o [17:10:57] what version is mediawiki? [17:11:00] i got 64bit wamp [17:11:07] 03(FIXED) requesting a new component "VIAF" in bugzilla product "Tools" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36864 +comment (10Thehelpfulone) [17:11:40] MW is just PHP code, so there is no sense of it being 32 or 64 [17:11:55] I mean that php and apache and php extensions need to match up [17:12:17] also using xdebug and xcache at the same time can be wonk [17:13:50] New patchset: Siebrand; "(bug 36851) Update autonym for 'bpy'." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7729 [17:14:07] 03(FIXED) ইমার ঠার/বিষ্ণুপ্রিয়া মণিপুরী is a very long name for a language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36851 +comment (10Siebrand) [17:15:38] cheers for the help, will try more tomorrow :) [17:15:45] New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7729 [17:16:44] 03(NEW) JavaScript not labeled as free - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36866 normal; MediaWiki: JavaScript; (kete) [17:16:47] 03(mod) Provide default time zone selection in installer - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/19991 (10Siebrand) [17:17:27] 03(FIXED) Inline styles: Wikipedia:Contact us page is horribly formatted - new contact/feedback page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31591 +comment (10Jon) [17:17:36] 04(REOPENED) Article Feedback Page - Relevance Score Math Questions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36768 +comment (10Reha Sterbin) [17:17:46] 14(DUP) Article Feedback - Relevance Score Issues - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36865 +comment (10Reha Sterbin) [17:17:47] 03(mod) Article Feedback Page - Relevance Score Math Questions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36768 +comment (10Reha Sterbin) [17:18:03] 03(mod) Do not show vertical button when Option 4 CTA is displayed (phase 1.5 ticket) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33002 +comment (10Yoni Shostak) [17:18:30] Reedy: so what's the git workflow for config changes now? [17:20:11] hello [17:20:22] hi gamma2 [17:20:46] I'm using the api to fetch backlinks and I stumbled into a problem [17:21:04] 03(mod) ClueBot appearing in the "top 5 reviewers" pane - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36837 minor->normal (10Ryan Kaldari) [17:21:54] shantanoo: sorry, had a sudden phonecall. [17:22:00] it seems that if I query for backlinks from a page from ns=6 I can only get titles form the same namespace [17:22:03] aharoni: np [17:22:29] example: commons.wikimedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&list=backlinks&bltitle=File:Krew Boylan and Guest.jpg [17:22:42] vs http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/File:Krew_Boylan_and_Guest.jpg [17:22:43] AaronSchulz: make the change, commit, git push origin [17:23:00] shantanoo: what is your interface language? [17:24:04] aharoni: have installed it for english. should i be using mr instead? [17:24:32] shantanoo: yes. [17:24:49] aharoni: oh. ok. let me reinstall it again :) [17:24:54] New patchset: tosfos; "(Bug 36056) allow $egMapsGoogleMapsZoom to always work" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMaps] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7730 [17:24:54] no! [17:24:57] you don't have to. [17:25:05] currently Narayam appears only if the interface language is one of the languages for which there is a layout. [17:25:40] you can add ?uselang=mr in the end of the URL. [17:25:56] gamma2: sorry, I don't know enough to help you, but if no one here helps you, you can ask the mediawiki-api list [17:26:58] and if you just installed this wiki and didn't do a lot with it, you can simply change $wgLanguageCode in LocalSettings.php to "mr". [17:27:25] sumanah: thanks, I'm staying here for a little longer just in case someone knows the answer [17:27:59] ok [17:28:08] shantanoo: Narayam will probably get smarter about appearing or not when we'll have the Universal Language Selector. [17:28:09] link in case you need it, gamma2 https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-api [17:28:24] 03(mod) SMW query printer ignores $egMapsGoogleMapsZoom - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36056 +comment (10Ike Hecht) [17:28:24] aharoni: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:Narayam/Marathi/Transliteration and http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Help:Extension:Narayam/Marathi/InScript&stable=0&redirect=no [17:29:04] gamma2: It seems to be behaving correctly to me [17:29:25] aharoni: have updated few things. at the end have put limitations. is there any better way to display that? [17:29:30] gamma2: The other results you might be expecting from looking at Special:Whatlinkshere are at https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&list=imageusage&iutitle=File:Krew%20Boylan%20and%20Guest.jpg [17:31:10] shantanoo: let me see... [17:33:49] 03(mod) PageTriage should recognize the difference between a patrol action and an autopatrol action - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36837 summary; +comment (10Ryan Kaldari) [17:35:16] shantanoo: what exactly do you mean by "Invalid character"? [17:35:40] aharoni: the rendering is not correct for that sequence. [17:35:49] click on the image link [17:36:07] aharoni: http://silpa.org.in/Render?text=kOM=%E0%A4%95%E0%A5%89%E0%A4%82%20and%20kaaMM=%E0%A4%95%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%81 [17:36:32] RoanKattouw: thanks, I was checking the imageusage option just now. [17:37:03] gamma2: Whatlinkshere displays a mix of backlinks, imageusage and embeddedin so that can be confusing sometimes [17:37:44] New patchset: Kaldari; "Temporary fix for bug 36837 - excluding bots from top reviews list" [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7732 [17:37:55] shantanoo: so do you mean to say "this sequence should be fixed in the code" or do you mean to say "you, as a user, might think that kOM gives the right thing, but actually you should type kaaMM"? [17:38:37] aharoni: for in script i doubt it can be fixed. maybe for transcript we should fix it. [17:38:57] 03(NEW) One press of section heading causes one press of Back to do nothing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36867 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend; (philinje) [17:39:02] RoanKattouw: so, can I consider the result from backlinks for images to be like "only pages contaning [[:file:whatever.jpg]]" while imageusage lists embedded images (i.e. [[file:whatever.jpg]]) instead? [17:39:18] gamma2: Exaclty [17:39:34] in script = inscript* [17:41:33] New patchset: MarkTraceur; "Add a new wikitext serializer, with limited functionality." [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7733 [17:44:04] 03(mod) Not properly detecting Nintendo DS UA - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30190 +comment (10Arthur Richards) [17:46:50] 03(mod) Browser back button works poorly with expanded article sections - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36848 +comment (10Phil Chang) [17:47:29] 14(WFM) Problem with license combinations - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36747 +comment (10Stephen Smoogen) [17:48:41] 03(mod) Browser back button works poorly with expanded article sections - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36848 +comment (10Jon) [17:50:06] RoanKattouw, do you have a bit of time for a mobile ResourceLoader talk? [17:50:14] MaxSem: Sure [17:50:38] New patchset: Kaldari; "Updating Release Notes about addition of getCreator and getOldestRevision methods" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7734 [17:51:56] RoanKattouw, we really need to deliver mobile scripts with RL, the problem is that mobile devices may not support the client-side part of it. so I experimented with using just the server-side part [17:52:11] OK [17:52:33] New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7734 [17:52:34] It seems like that should work if you set &only=scripts [17:52:49] and if you don't need dependency handling to work correctly [17:53:16] RoanKattouw, and remove the mw.loader.state() so I whipped up a core change https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/7302/ [17:53:24] how could I create two independant vote system to make people rate the article and also the dificulty of it? [17:53:28] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CommunityVoice [17:53:31] is this the right extension? [17:53:41] MaxSem: Wait, doesn't the concept of raw modules already exist [17:54:03] shantanoo: sorry, phone call again. so you say that kOM should be काँ? [17:54:22] New review: Katie Horn; "Tests out on my local." [mediawiki/extensions/DonationInterface] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/6884 [17:54:24] aharoni: yes. something like that. [17:54:29] RoanKattouw, so far I've seen just a hardcoded check for startup module [17:54:43] jquery and mediawiki should also be raw [17:54:58] shantanoo: wanna try adding that yourself? :) [17:55:04] if not, please open a bug. [17:55:04] RoanKattouw, we don't want to use mediawiki at all [17:55:05] Or maybe they were at one time and we changed that? [17:55:08] I know that [17:55:10] Just saying [17:55:21] I think there was a point in time where we marked jquery and mediawiki as raw modules [17:56:02] nope, mediawiki is not raw: https://www.mediawiki.org/w/load.php?only=scripts&modules=mediawiki [17:56:11] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "This might fix it, but it seems the issue was not a name conflict but not passing the thing by refer..." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMaps] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7730 [17:57:13] MaxSem: Oh wow the bootstrapping part of RL is more fragile than I realized [17:57:44] you mean ? [17:57:53] aharoni: sure. will try once local setup starts working... [17:58:15] 03(FIXED) Not properly detecting Nintendo DS UA - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30190 +comment (10Tomasz Finc) [17:58:27] MaxSem: No, I mean the mw.loader.state stuff at the end of the only=script request. Anyway [17:58:53] New review: Reedy; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/MoodBar] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7721 [17:58:59] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions/MoodBar] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7721 [17:59:21] Eww, hardcoded check for startup, that's evil [17:59:40] aharoni: we should almost just copy that .gitignore into all of the repos [17:59:44] RoanKattouw, my patch fixes it. does my approach seem sound, along with (unfinished) https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/7670/ ? [17:59:52] hm... i am jusing mathjax to render latex formulas, and it works for preview mode.. but somehow raw latex is dipslayed on the rendered page... what could be the problem? [18:00:17] using* [18:00:29] or I need, for example, to append &raw=1 to URLs? [18:01:56] does git branch -r also show tags? [18:02:40] <^demon> Ryan_Lane: No. [18:02:43] <^demon> `git tag` [18:02:51] ah [18:02:57] tags are always local? [18:03:20] <^demon> They're copied on clone/pull, afaik. [18:03:25] <^demon> Since they're lightweight. [18:03:26] RoanKattouw, specifying raw in URLs could actually make some stuff easy, e.g. my patch needs to make the jquery module raw so with the current system it will need to combine jquery with some raw module to avoid the mw.loader.state() call [18:03:26] yep [18:03:30] ah. ok. cool [18:03:51] MaxSem: Yeah, except I'd like for jquery to still be registered under normal circumstances [18:03:57] 03(mod) One press of section heading causes one press of Back to do nothing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36867 +comment (10Tomasz Finc) [18:04:08] MaxSem: So I think &raw=1 is a better idea, then raw-ness wouldn't be a property of the module [18:04:17] And we'd just have to change the startup module URL to include &raw=1 [18:04:45] Although -- well we can't actually do that to the startup module for back compat reasons, meh [18:05:18] mmm, the downside is that URL-building functions already have a huge parameter list, $raw will be another one [18:05:37] anyone know when and why ApiFormatNone got removed? [18:05:50] Daniel_WMDE: I wasn't aware that it ever existed, what did it do? [18:06:00] RoanKattouw: nothing, i presume :) [18:06:00] uga chaga [18:06:13] MaxSem: Well currently the last param is $extraQuery , could just stick it in there [18:06:15] RoanKattouw: i don't know... i just noticed that it got removed when i merged stuff. [18:06:19] That's what we do with excludeuser too [18:06:28] Daniel_WMDE: How old is your branch point? [18:06:46] not that old if it had API [18:07:03] True [18:07:07] RoanKattouw: the original branch point is pretty old. coupld of month. [18:07:18] have been merging the master back into the branch on a regular basis [18:07:40] I don't recall ApiFormatNone being created then deleted in that time span [18:07:44] I've never heard of ti [18:07:55] huh. odd. [18:10:56] 03(mod) No message for {{int:difference-title}} - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36806 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [18:11:27] shantanoo: sweet :) [18:11:28] RoanKattouw, thanks - I'll try to poke at this [18:12:03] 03(mod) add appendtext to URL driven requests - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31919 +comment (10Ryan Kaldari) [18:12:53] shantanoo: if you change any rules in the layout, please add tests to ext.narayam.rules.tests.js , and try to run them, too. We tried to make it very easy. [18:13:19] aharoni: sure. [18:13:39] New review: Kaldari; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7729 [18:13:42] Change merged: Kaldari; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7729 [18:14:06] 03(FIXED) make apache send syslog to a syslog listener - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36246 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [18:14:29] thanks again for the help, have fun [18:18:16] 03(NEW) find a better home for /home/wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36868 normal; Wikimedia Labs: deployment-prep ("beta"); (hashar) [18:19:22] Oh yikes... Looking at the http://www.fahrinfo-berlin.de travel planner thing on how I'm going to get from TXL -> Hostel on the 1st of June... two buses by the looks of things? Honestly Mr German Website Person, I don't mind you translating random red (presuamably error messages) text... [18:19:54] 03(mod) find a better home for /home/wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36868 normal->minor; +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [18:20:05] Planned closures I suspect [18:20:41] Ah, from what Google translate says, I assume so... [18:20:54] 14(DUP) Please support https for http://labs.wikimedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/Main_Page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34367 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [18:20:55] 03(mod) replicate HTTPS architecture - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36648 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [18:21:17] New patchset: Jpostlethwaite; "(mingle-fr-2012-67) minFraud servers can now be set in LocalSettings.php" [mediawiki/extensions/DonationInterface] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/6956 [18:21:18] New patchset: Jpostlethwaite; "(mingle-fr-2012-67) Upgrade our implementation of MaxMind minFraud" [mediawiki/extensions/DonationInterface] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/6884 [18:21:49] Lcawte: Oh, that's because they delayed opening the new airport [18:22:01] Ummm, what/ [18:22:09] Yeah so BER opening on June 3rd? Not gonna happen [18:22:22] They're moving all those flights back to TXL / SXF now [18:22:41] Ummm... slightly worried now... ^.^ [18:22:43] I got a very alarming flight cancellation e-mail this morning, turned out they'd just moved my flight from BER to TXL, same times etc [18:23:00] "back to SXF" [18:23:02] So the red text is something about how the airport bus lines will continue to operate as long as the new airport is not open yet [18:23:07] In which case, no change, just different terminal [18:23:12] Yeah :D [18:23:14] True [18:23:27] I still vote for reopening Templehof [18:23:39] Ok... I might need to do some investigation on my flight then... :/ [18:24:51] Lcawte: So re TXL - hotel travel (I'm looking at TXL to Gleisdreieck cause that's where my hotel is), I see either TXL bus to U9 to U2, or X9 bus to U2 [18:25:09] * YuviPanda should probably do something about his post-flight things too [18:25:22] unlike SF, I wouldn't know even a tiny bit of the language in Berlin [18:25:29] Most speak english [18:25:31] so you'll be fine [18:25:51] "Sprechen Sie Englisch?" is about the only phrase you might want to know ;) [18:27:21] Reedy: When I flew to Mumbai, I didn't know the local language either :D [18:27:24] so I guess I'll be fine [18:27:33] YuviPanda: Will be nice to see you. [18:27:47] likewise, sumanah :) [18:27:57] I've 4 days off after the hackathon and no idea what I'd be doing :D [18:28:15] YuviPanda: Daniel_WMDE might have ideas for you. [18:28:40] chrismcmahon: re the OpenHatch event on June 9, mind if I fwd your most recent email to the OH events list? [18:28:47] * Daniel_WMDE gapes unintelligently at nothing [18:29:19] Lydia_WMDE: got ideas for YuviPanda? [18:29:48] what does it mean, 'maybe you need to create the page mediawiki:readerfeedback-Relevance ' how do I create this page? [18:29:54] * Lydia_WMDE reads backlog [18:30:01] New review: Katie Horn; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/DonationInterface] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/6884 [18:30:05] Change merged: Katie Horn; [mediawiki/extensions/DonationInterface] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/6884 [18:30:08] worst case I'll roam around the streets taking pictures and do round trips on the trains :D [18:30:17] azi: visit it on your wiki and set it [18:30:21] azi: usually you just navigate to that page in your installation by typing the URL in, and then click the link to edit/create the page [18:30:31] New review: Katie Horn; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/DonationInterface] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/6956 [18:30:34] YuviPanda: so you need something to do in berlin for 4 days after the hackathon? [18:30:36] YuviPanda: on wednesday (june 6), there'S the berlin open data day. [18:30:37] Change merged: Katie Horn; [mediawiki/extensions/DonationInterface] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/6956 [18:30:37] azi: [baseURL]/mediawiki:readerfeedback-Relevance [18:30:39] you should go to cbase [18:30:47] and i heard berlin undergroun tours is pretty awesome [18:30:47] Lol. Hull to Rotterdam round trip on a ferry £291.50 [18:30:47] Reedy: thanks. should I visit urlofwiki/readerfeedback-Relevance? [18:30:49] Screw that [18:30:58] sumanah: yeah that gets me a 404 [18:31:07] * YuviPanda googles Lydia_WMDE's suggestions [18:31:15] Then your server isn't setup correctly [18:31:19] Daniel_WMDE: Are talks usually in English or German? [18:31:21] Reedy: Yeah that doesn't sound like it's worth saving a bit of gas when you compare it against Calais-Dover [18:31:32] azi: [baseURL]/wiki/[page-to-create]? [18:31:36] or /index.php/? [18:31:41] sumanah: for that one probably german [18:31:41] YuviPanda: i don't know. the website appears to be german only. but that doesn't mean much,. http://berlin.opendataday.de/berliner-open-data-day/boddy-2012/ [18:31:48] RoanKattouw: exacty. Ferry is like £70, euro tunnel around £120 [18:31:49] azi: Go to the Main Page, then in the URL of that page, replace "Main_Page" with "MediaWiki:Whatever" [18:31:55] Diesel is also cheap in europe [18:31:58] Or punch "MediaWiki:Whatever" into the search bar [18:32:23] Reedy: Yeah although in my experience it's like 10 ct/L more in Germany [18:32:25] I'm not even sure if the travel planner is sending me to the right place, I just copy and pasted the address from the hostel they reckon and it gave me two choices both with I think is the same street name :/ [18:32:32] Still cheaper than it is in the UK [18:32:39] Lcawte: Where is it if you don't mind me asking? [18:33:03] Lcawte: careful wit hstreet names in berlin. they may occurr in different parts of town. [18:33:05] aharoni: around? [18:33:11] yep [18:33:16] Reedy: Sure. Just saying, fill up in Belgium if you can. Or Luxembourg, if you pass through there, they have cheap fuel :) [18:33:26] The hostel they reckon, as far as I've read, its aletto Kudamm Hotel & Hostel Hardenbergstrasse 21, 10623 Berlin, Germany [18:33:29] 03(mod) Problem with non-ASCII characters and long requests - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36839 +i18n; +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [18:33:41] aharoni: added ['([क-ह]ॉ)M', '', '$1ाँ'] in ext.narayam.rules.mr.js [18:33:48] "it will most probably be" is the validness of that :) [18:33:49] Lydia_WMDE: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C-base? The Chaos Computer Club meets there? sounds pretty damn awesome :) [18:34:11] YuviPanda: c-base is indeed awesome [18:34:17] aharoni: 'var rules ' last value. but its not working as expected. [18:34:24] Lcawte: Aha, yeah that's a well-connected place [18:34:31] YuviPanda: jep ;-) [18:34:42] It's got Kudamm in the name and gmaps tells me it's close to Kurfürstendamm U-Bahn, so that seems legit [18:34:46] Last time, I filled up at home, and then I was nearly at Hannover I think... [18:34:52] Zoologischer Garten S-Bahn is right near there too [18:35:00] * YuviPanda adds it to list of things to do [18:35:02] shantanoo: it's possible that an earlier rule catches it. they are tried in sequent. [18:35:04] aharoni: do you think the regex is ok? [18:35:09] oh. ok. [18:35:09] Daniel_WMDE: Route planner is telling me "TXL" to "10623 Bln Charlb.-Wilm., Hardenbergstr. 21" [18:35:12] YuviPanda, when do you depart from Berlin? [18:35:19] shantanoo: s/sequent/sequence/ [18:35:21] MaxSem: 9 july morning [18:35:23] *june [18:35:29] Lcawte: In Charlottenburg? That seems wrong [18:35:30] I'm on 7th [18:35:34] shantanoo: the rule looks ok at first glance. [18:35:45] RoanKattouw: thanks [18:35:45] Good job I'm checking this stuff now lol [18:36:13] Lcawte: Try planning to Zoologischer Garten (U+S-Bahn station), it's a stone's throw away [18:36:23] aharoni: checking... [18:36:31] YuviPanda: shorturl. Still need some review? [18:36:38] How good at throwing are you RoanKattouw? :) [18:36:43] sumanah: nope, all reviewing done [18:37:02] ok, YuviPanda - what's needed next? just Reedy deploying, or does Ops need to set something up? [18:37:18] also YuviPanda you might be interested in https://carlacasilli.wordpress.com/2012/05/15/learning-coding-systems-of-power-and-mozilla/ to pass around to the want-to-learn-basics crowd [18:37:19] sumanah: in a meeting, brb? [18:37:21] ok [18:37:28] aharoni: i think i got the fix. putting ['([क-ह])ॉM', '', '$1ाँ'], on line 36 seems to work [18:37:34] Awesome, just send Mariel an email and I'm flying out of TXL, and I'll be getting updated information tonight :D [18:38:32] Ok, that seems cool, 14 minutes on a bus, 3 minutes on Underground? [18:39:09] so, [[MediaWiki:Readerfeedback-]] is actually URL/index.php/Readerfeedback- ? somehow the page I am trying to find is nonexistant [18:39:19] Dear Travel Planning site, if you have a english and a german site, and your, you know... giving people pretty important information, please translate the /whole/ of your key? [18:40:36] New patchset: Eranroz; "Bug 13673 support for directionality for reference" [mediawiki/extensions/Cite] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7738 [18:40:53] azi: try URL/index.php/MediaWiki:Readerfeedback- .... and if your installation says that page doesn't exist and would you like to create it? then yes, choose to create it [18:40:58] New patchset: tosfos; "(Bug 36056) allow $egMapsGoogleMapsZoom to always work" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMaps] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7730 [18:41:01] Ok, this seems better, I'll be flyng in and out of the same airport :D [18:42:59] sumanah: thanks for your help. i am trying to fix an issue explaind on the url (at the end) somehow the problem persists even if i create the page. and i don't know how exactly the solution works http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_talk:ReaderFeedback#Issue_in_the_display_of_text_for_rating [18:43:06] chrismcmahon: re the OpenHatch event on June 9, I've dented/tweeted about it - http://identi.ca/mediawikimeet and https://twitter.com/#!/MediaWikiMeet [18:43:24] sumanah: awesome, thanks [18:43:28] Dented makes it sound like you've damaged it [18:43:34] chrismcmahon: re the OpenHatch event on June 9, mind if I fwd your most recent email to the OH events list? [18:44:14] Reedy: or, like, gnawed on it with my teeth [18:44:16] Hmm, I wonder if the hostel offers wake up calls... or if whoever I could be sharing a room with is a human alarm clock... because I'm not going to be waking up for a 7.30AM outbound flight by myself ^.^ [18:44:31] sumanah: I was hoping to hear back from Asheesh before posting to the events list [18:44:41] Lcawte: yes, they probably offer wakeup calls, or you can use a cell phone as an alarm clock [18:44:56] chrismcmahon: why? others discuss stuff on the events list, including tentative stuff [18:45:06] it's fine to do in public, IMO [18:45:15] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/File:BADIPagesCreatedLinks.jpg Would I be right in marking this as {{MW-screenshot}}? [18:45:24] sumanah: I have a tendancy to sleep rather deeply, and plus, my mobile phone is from like... the iron age of mobile phones... [18:45:27] New review: Catrope; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/6534 [18:45:27] Change merged: Catrope; [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/6534 [18:45:40] sumanah: because I'd like to have Asheesh have a bit of a leadership role for the event [18:45:42] That reminds me, I have a 6:50am flight, should look at transit to the airport [18:45:51] seems fine to me, Krenair [18:45:51] Silly people. [18:45:58] * Lcawte needs to get himself a nice touchscreen phone at some point [18:46:43] New review: tosfos; "The new patch seems to work. Thanks." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMaps] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7730 [18:47:08] RoanKattouw: If your going by public transport, mind if I copy your plans? :P [18:47:31] chrismcmahon: you know my prejudices :) best wishes... silly me, I should have ensured that you would meet Asheesh in person when you were in SF [18:48:14] azi: maybe you should post to https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_talk:ReaderFeedback#Issue_in_the_display_of_text_for_rating and mention your problem [18:48:24] azi: so someone knowledgable regarding that extension can help you [18:48:32] azi: mention your MediaWiki installation's version number, etc etc [18:48:47] sumanah: yeah, that's my plan, i just wanted to check if there's something really trivial i am missing out cause i am new to mediawiki [18:48:56] azi: Welcome to MediaWiki! [18:49:10] sumanah: thank you [18:49:13] Lcawte: Sure. I'm looking at an itinerary here that goes right by your hostel [18:50:01] Cool :) [18:51:13] Quick question: What is the proper user-id to use for maintaince related tasks performed by an extension? [18:51:17] In this case I feel it would be inappropriate to use the user's user-id, and I'm not a huge fan of using user ID 0. [18:51:39] YuviPanda: hey :) u here? [18:52:02] ZellFaze: create a user for it [18:52:14] A few extensions do that now [18:52:33] Reedy: I can definitely do that. I take it there is no specific user-id meant for these types of things then? [18:52:39] Nope [18:52:46] 0 is anon (and hence, somewhat reserved) [18:52:48] 'k. [18:53:04] Also, i'd agree it feels icky to use it for that sort of thing [18:53:13] Aye. [18:53:42] The tasks being performed are indirectly triggered by the user, so I felt using their ID was not a good idea. [18:54:14] ZellFaze: how's your MediaWiki administration/development experience going? [18:54:17] What sort of tasks? [18:54:20] Are they logged events? [18:54:29] They are logged events. [18:54:55] Sumanah: It is going quite pleasently, this will make the third extension I've made for the company I work for. [18:55:18] ZellFaze: nice! We'd be happy to host stuff in our repositories: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/New_repositories [18:55:22] Sadly most are very very specific to the company and aren't really useful to the community. But when I make some that are, I will release them. [18:55:41] ZellFaze: It's easy to get access to our Git repositories so you can suggest merge requests directly: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developer_access [18:55:50] Reedy: Yes they are logged events. [18:56:11] Also, ZellFaze, you are welcome to come to some of our teaching/learning/hacking events, or host your own: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_developer_meetings [18:56:35] I'm planning on attending Wikimania this year since it is nearish where I live. [18:56:43] ZellFaze: ah yes, the custom hack that is extremely specific to one customer - I know that drill. :) [18:56:54] ZellFaze: oh nice! So we'll see you at the developers' days, maybe, July 10-11? [18:57:13] Ah I see your name is on the signup already. [18:57:31] Depends on how much leave time I can get away with / how much time they will let me attend WikiMania as part of my job. [18:57:57] Right, makes sense. [18:58:07] My boss is all for me going on company dollar, but she'll need to convince Senior Management first I believe. [18:59:16] ZellFaze: You've reminded me of http://linux.conf.au/register/business-case -- there's a conference that specifically has a page on their site on how to convince managers to pay for their employee(s) to go to the conf. :) [18:59:37] (Gone now.) [18:59:44] I don't know if the 'show changes' button is a new thing or just something I've never noticed before, but it's awesome. Thanks to whoever implemented that. [18:59:54] I was about to point that out. [18:59:55] oh, sumanah, Lydia_WMDE was looking for you earlier. [19:00:27] I already told her [19:00:30] Thanks, Amgine! I got in touch with her [19:00:39] Redundancy is better than missing the message - thanks :) [19:00:42] yw [19:00:46] ZellFaze: Krenair - you mean https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28technical%29#Watchlist_-_bold_letter_article_titles.21 ? [19:01:15] oh no, you're talking about on the edit page? That's been around for a few iterations, and yes, it's great! [19:01:27] I've only just noticed it :p [19:01:35] Sumanah: My message was in response to (Gone now.) [19:01:35] I think I also only noticed it a few weeks ago [19:01:46] (Ah, thanks ZellFaze.) [19:02:24] Why isn't there a developer equivalent of the village pump. [19:02:36] I feel like a lot of information gets lost here. [19:02:45] I've got js code that's working with a gadget but not working with a userscript. Anyone here who could look into it? [19:03:01] ZellFaze: I think that our developers' mailing list, wikitech-l , is basically our Village Pump.... but I see your point [19:03:32] (and as long as I'm giving you the spiel, ZellFaze - Wikimedia Foundation is hiring, in case you know anyone who's looking. https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Work_with_us ) [19:03:40] ZellFaze, it would get flooded when a popular change suddenly becomes hated by most of enwiki [19:03:55] For example, see that link sumanah sent us? [19:04:25] New review: Hashar; "Thanks Hydriz!" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7364 [19:04:35] Change abandoned: Kaldari; "won't work" [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7732 [19:05:33] 03(mod) [EmbedVideo] Fatal error: Class 'Hmtl' not found in EmbedVideo.hooks.php on line 119 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36845 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [19:06:21] Sumanah: Don't know anyone off the top of my head, I just started where I am at about 6 months ago, and I'm just a hacker, not a full time coder as the company doesn't really need anything more than a hacker, but I'll keep it in mind. [19:06:38] Got it. [19:08:06] hi there tparveen_ ! how goes the testing? [19:10:51] New review: Reedy; "Someone can do it at a later date if they really want to" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7296 [19:10:53] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7296 [19:13:12] 03(NEW) FCKEditor does not display because of undefined js variable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36869 major; MediaWiki extensions: FCKeditor; (dvasilyev2) [19:13:45] New patchset: Kaldari; "Temporary fix for bug 36837 - ClueBot NG listed as top reviewer" [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7740 [19:15:37] New review: Bsitu; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7740 [19:15:40] Change merged: Bsitu; [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7740 [19:16:49] Hm. [19:17:09] Would MW-screenshot be used for screenshots of wikipedia mobile stuff? Like https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/File:Android_current_layout.png [19:18:17] New review: Umherirrender; "Yes, when requesting prop=user each row of the result set will create a query against user table to ..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7512 [19:19:58] New review: Nikerabbit; "I'm not sure this looks better on ordinary display. Maybe it needs conditional loading?" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7667 [19:24:11] @recentchanges-on [19:24:11] Feed is enabled [19:27:20] shantanoo: yeah, that may be good. [19:28:12] try adding a test for it. we already have one for 'mr'. [19:28:38] aharoni: yes. done that. [19:28:55] thinking about commit comment... [19:29:28] one of the difficult task…than modifying the code…:) [19:29:48] petan|wk, hey, what does that do? [19:31:03] shantanoo: definitely :) [19:31:22] Krenair: it makes it possible to make it report changes to pages [19:31:28] specific [19:31:41] @RC+ mediawiki Blah [19:31:43] Inserted new item to feed of changes [19:31:54] this will report all changes to page Blah on mww [19:31:55] 03(mod) wmf-config need to be synchronized with cluster - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36754 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [19:31:57] mee.org [19:32:02] mww * [19:33:07] shantanoo: something like "adding rule and a test for OM and candrabindu" should be fine. [19:33:17] 03(mod) wmf-config need to be synchronized with cluster - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36754 +comment (10Peter Bena) [19:34:05] @RC+ mediawiki Project:Requests [19:34:06] Inserted new item to feed of changes [19:34:24] aharoni: http://dpaste.org/vqf0H/ [19:34:30] putting this comment [19:35:17] sumanah: working url for "Convincing your boss to send you to linux.conf.au" https://conf.linux.org.au/register/business-case [19:35:34] shantanoo: good. [19:35:55] hey sumanah [19:35:58] Thanks, Deebki! [19:36:12] hello YuviPanda [19:36:32] sumanah: so, next step would be deployment of the extension, setting up the db tables and then finally the apache rewrite rules [19:36:39] 03(NEW) delete deployment-web* instances - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36870 normal; Wikimedia Labs: deployment-prep ("beta"); (hashar) [19:36:44] I suppose binasher and Reedy are the ones involved? [19:36:56] Whatever it is, I didn't do it [19:37:47] 03(NEW) Move bz-dev instance out of deployment-prep project - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36871 normal; Wikimedia Labs: deployment-prep ("beta"); (hashar) [19:38:26] New patchset: Shantanoo; "Fixed rendering." [mediawiki/extensions/Narayam] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7741 [19:40:07] Would MW-screenshot be used for screenshots of wikipedia mobile stuff? Like https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/File:Android_current_layout.png [19:40:09] YuviPanda: thanks, updated https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Review_queue#Extensions . Reedy - so, there are 3 TODOs there, which should I be assigning to you vs binasher vs other people? [19:42:12] aharoni: done. once the fix is approved, i think i should be pushed to all languages which use devanagari script. e.g. hindi, sanskrit, airman, nepali(?), etc. [19:42:33] 03(NEW) ensure logs in /home/wikipedia/logs are rotated - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36872 normal; Wikimedia Labs: deployment-prep ("beta"); (hashar) [19:42:49] shantanoo: about the rest of the Devanagari languages, that really needs a bug :) [19:43:23] and by the way, I would really to have the same layout for the Devanagari languages, but ONLY if it really makes sense. [19:43:45] for example, I definitely wouldn't do the same layout for all the Cyrillic script languages. [19:43:58] but for Devanagari it may make sense. [19:45:00] aharoni: oh. ok. maybe i can fix hindi, sanskrit and airhani (was autocorrect to airman). [19:45:23] ^demon: http://dpaste.org/UkOMX/ [19:45:24] the Hindi one is used for several others. [19:45:35] IIRC, Ahirani just loads it. [19:45:44] New review: Umherirrender; "Checking against the user right "bot" is a good idea. Have a look at SpecialNewimages.php, where alr..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7535 [19:46:01] oops [19:46:01] wait [19:46:04] wrong repo [19:46:06] shantanoo: no, Ahirani actually loads Marathi :) [19:46:39] oh, getting the error either way... [19:47:15] aharoni: my grandparents speak Ahirani. parents understand it. I can read (due to devanagari script) only (no understanding) :) [19:47:43] Are you grandparents software developers? :D [19:47:51] s/you/your/ [19:48:04] shantanoo: And Bhojpuri loads Hindi. But Sanskrit, Hindi and Marathi each have a complete layout, and I wonder whether they can be unified. [19:48:06] ^demon: so that does not work... [19:48:23] Reedy: i am planning to make them ;) (#dream) [19:48:38] Reedy: Alphabets of India have a lot of internal logic, a bit like software ;) [19:48:40] My mom knew COBOL & FORTRAN. I don't think any of my grandparents knew, though [19:48:50] <^demon> JeroenDeDauw: What'd it say? [19:49:03] ^demon: http://dpaste.org/UkOMX/ [19:49:19] <^demon> sumanah: I used to work with a couple of cobol/mainframe guys. One of the guys tried to teach me something once, but I told him I wasn't old enough to learn cobol. [19:49:37] ^demon: lol. [19:50:06] <^demon> JeroenDeDauw: Ah, also need to grant "Forge Committer Identity" (not Author) on refs/*. Since you're pushing "other people's" commits. [19:50:18] You remind me of the name of one of Mike Daisey's first monologues, ^demon -- "I Miss The Cold War" [19:51:54]