[12:34:01] then I still prefer the action=parse hack [12:34:21] liangent: it is not very eye readable [12:34:34] <p>3</p> [12:34:44] <_Meow> Put it in a page and purge it every time you want to check for update [12:35:10] _Meow: issue is that this could be for hundreds of wikis [12:35:24] <_Meow> Oh, well... [12:35:34] my original intent was to build a page with a listing, and the api code, and select the relevant link [12:37:38] sDrewth: try this http://en.wikisource.org/w/api.php?action=parse&text=%0D%0DNo.%20of%20users:%20{{NUMBEROFUSERS}}%0D%0DNo.%20of%20active%20users:%20{{NUMBEROFACTIVEUSERS}}%0D%0DNo.%20of%20group:autopatrolled:%20{{NUMBERINGROUP:autopatrolled}}&format=txtfm&disablepp&prop=text [12:38:09] <_Meow> ！ [12:38:49] nice [12:39:10] or https://en.wikisource.org/w/api.php?action=expandtemplates&text=%0D%0DNo. of users: {{NUMBEROFUSERS}}%0D%0DNo. of active users: {{NUMBEROFACTIVEUSERS}}%0D%0DNo. of group:autopatrolled: {{NUMBERINGROUP:autopatrolled}}&format=txtfm [12:40:07] if someone (not me) knows about xslt you can apply one to the xml results to get a more pretty view [12:40:59] <_Meow> I know XSLT, but can I get it done online? [12:42:10] _Meow: there can be a &xslt= for action=xml [12:42:21] <_Meow> Okay, let me try it [12:43:30] <_Meow> liangent: What does &xslt= accept? A literal XSLT string or something else? [12:43:52] <_Meow> I searched the documentation, but I got no results [12:44:02] hmm it requires a page on target wiki so if you want to use it across wikis it might be not so useful [12:44:24] <_Meow> That's too bad. [12:48:09] JeroenDeDauw, extension Live Translate doesn't seem to query Google API. The installation is new, no other extensions, MediaWiki 1.19, the API key is correct. What else can the problem be? [12:49:34] New patchset: Liangent; "Add some more detailed info about the xslt param of format=xml" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7788 [12:49:59] _Meow: ^ [12:50:13] <_Meow> liangent: Thanks a lot. [12:51:28] New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7788 [13:07:06] Is there a way to import the wiki text (only) from a wiki page? [13:08:03] nischayn22: what do you mean? [13:10:40] I mean can I get the wiki-text from a page of a wiki? [13:10:58] I need all that text which you edit [13:11:05] Betacommand: ^ [13:11:11] <_Meow> &action=raw ? [13:12:24] _Meow: thanks, that is what I was looking for :) [13:12:31] !nagos [13:12:32] 03(mod) Run updateArticleCount.php on all Wikisources and Wiktionaries - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33253 +comment (10Erik Zachte) [13:18:48] okay my next dumb question, is from https://en.wikisource.org/w/api.php?action=sitematrix how do I get a list that is more in line with //xx.wikxxxxxx.org ? [13:19:11] first of all they all spit out in http:// [13:33:09] aurimai: how do you figure it does not query it? [13:34:11] No traffic is registered in the Console. [13:35:43] nischayn22: to have a cleaner interface. What you normally get back fro the mysql functions is not an iterator if I'm not mistaken [13:36:51] biot: it's not a conflict with jQuery I would think. Both 1.17 and 1.18 load it pretty much the same way. The extension seems to be using old style resource module definitions though [13:36:59] Not sure they still work in 1.18 [13:37:03] Or the hook thing it uses [13:37:16] aha, ok [13:37:20] biot: can you link to the install where it fails? [13:37:33] JeroenDeDauw: sigrok.org :) [13:38:03] biot: yeah, but the page where it fails [13:38:22] JeroenDeDauw: essentially tables should have an extra function dataTable(), as the docs for that xtension says [13:38:30] and that's just not there [13:38:48] er well, I have no idea how to enable it either [13:39:03] isn't is supposed to be available always then? [13:43:41] 03(mod) Add all extensions used by WMF to Jenkins - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34617 +comment (10Max Semenik) [13:44:13] biot: looks like this is some kind of library extension [13:44:18] Does not load it by default [13:44:23] Other extensions can use it [13:44:35] Or you can use it by loading it via the api [13:44:59] Something like: [13:45:00] mw.loader.using( 'ext.datatables', function() { /* do stuff here */ } ); [13:45:06] in js [13:45:18] huh [13:45:28] a little factoid they forgot to mention [13:45:32] New patchset: Kaldari; "Removing unneeded dependencies for the article reviewing action" [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7789 [13:45:41] can we use generator to spit out components of sitematrix ? [13:46:07] Well, it's there, although not clear if you don't know what the resource loader is... [13:46:26] JeroenDeDauw: How should I split SMWStore? It should be done by functionality, and I want to split it into 3-4 files [13:47:24] JeroenDeDauw: doesn't look like this is really a usable module [13:47:41] New review: Kaldari; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/6337 [13:47:42] shame, really was just what I needed [13:47:43] Change merged: Kaldari; [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/6337 [13:48:37] New review: Kaldari; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7714 [13:48:39] Change merged: Kaldari; [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7714 [13:50:53] biot: it's what you need but not usable? So it's broken or what? [13:51:25] JeroenDeDauw: well it's supposed to be an interface between that cool datatables jquery plugin and the mediawiki backend [13:51:48] JeroenDeDauw: yet, I can't point it at a table and say, let me edit that with datatables goodness [13:52:23] I have to what, write a module that subclasses it? sheesh [13:52:26] biot: actual editing it will definitly not alow [13:52:41] What it can do when it loads is make it sortable/filterable in fancy ways [13:52:47] eh? that's the entire point of it I though [13:52:54] thought* [13:53:03] biot: will have to wait on the visual editor [13:53:21] JeroenDeDauw: what's this? [13:53:28] right now we don't have a proper parser, so this kind of editing is not trivial to implement :p [13:53:46] hmm [13:53:47] JeroenDeDauw, (not sure if you saw my answer; if you did, pardon for spam) No traffic is registered in the Console. [13:54:08] JeroenDeDauw: it's pretty obvious that what I need is something that will (hopefully) come out of wikidata [13:54:11] biot: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:VisualEditorSandbox [13:54:32] don't really want to edit a table, I want to work with the underlying data [13:55:17] biot: but for that it needs to be able to update the actual source values, the visual editor can do this [13:55:32] To some extend.. [13:56:36] nischayn22: yeah, by functionality. Probably best if you write up some proposal [13:56:40] dammit [13:56:48] this really screws up my plans [13:56:55] (world domination) [13:58:53] biot: muhahaha, it shall be mine [14:07:46] 03(mod) Allow posting new sections to top of page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31919 summary; +comment (10Ryan Kaldari) [14:09:31] hey all, I'm trying to match a smw result with the parserfunction #switch, but I'm unable to get a match. any ideas how to tacle it? [14:16:09] JeroenDeDauw: Is it okay if I make subclasses of Store such as StoreWrite, StoreRead ? [14:22:52] New review: Helder.wiki; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/6065 [14:25:52] API question on https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33253#c17 , input appreciated [14:29:09] New review: Umherirrender; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/6065 [14:29:51] 03(NEW) sitematrix output; inverted queries for smstate - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36903 normal; MediaWiki: API; (billinghurst) [14:32:35] New review: Umherirrender; "@Krinkle: I did not know, that setting that filter reduced the number of items in the list. You can ..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7535 [14:39:05] New patchset: Umherirrender; "prop=revisions: join user table to get user name" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7512 [14:41:02] New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7512 [14:42:17] New patchset: Reha Sterbin; "Central feedback page" [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7119 [14:42:43] nischayn22: I suspect there will be better ways to split it [14:43:03] 03(NEW) division by zero in StatsTable.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36904 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Translate; (hashar) [14:44:00] nischayn22: use cases of the store are query answering and updating data [14:44:26] 03(NEW) null object generate an error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36905 normal; MediaWiki extensions: CategoryTree; (hashar) [14:44:32] nischayn22: in practice this might be similar to read/write, but it's conceptually different obviously [14:44:46] nischayn22: talked with Markus about that yet? [14:44:52] JeroenDeDauw: I am looking, any suggestions [14:45:05] New review: Reha Sterbin; "The bug in setStatusLine turned out to be only part of the issue -- the check needed to be outside o..." [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7119 [14:45:06] nischayn22: so anything written up yet? [14:45:08] JeroenDeDauw: No, he is marked away now [14:45:28] nischayn22: can always mail him [14:45:39] or write him as long as he's not busy/unavailable [14:45:47] Not yet, I am making the new tables and then will write Store3 [14:47:03] New patchset: Umherirrender; "Fill GenderCache inside ApiPageSet" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7517 [14:47:16] Store2 is about 2500 lines long, that terrifies me :P [14:47:43] 03(NEW) some illegal offset in 1.20wmf2 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36906 normal; MediaWiki extensions: CLDR; (hashar) [14:48:07] New review: Umherirrender; "Patch Set 2 handles inline comments" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7517 [14:48:57] New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7517 [14:49:51] 03(NEW) null object passed to WmlContext constructor - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36907 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend; (hashar) [14:51:14] I am trying to setup mediawiki as an internal KB... can someone suggest me which extensions are recommended for that use? [14:52:14] 03(NEW) Language::isValidBuiltInCode is being passed an object! - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36908 normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (hashar) [14:52:29] hi polk [14:52:56] sumanah, can u help me here please? [14:53:35] * sumanah looks at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Knowledgebase [14:54:07] polk: try searching mediawiki.org for the phrase "knowledge base" [14:54:18] nischayn22: yeah, that's a lot of stuff,m and it also uses the storehelper thing [14:54:30] nischayn22: please don't call it store 3 ... [14:54:38] Just call it SQLStore or shatever [14:54:41] *whetever [14:54:48] New review: Reha Sterbin; "Responses inline -- will patch soon for everything but those." [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7151 [14:54:49] JeroenDeDauw: I didn't wanted to call it that, but Markus suggested [14:55:04] I feel very bad for all namings done by SMW [14:55:07] nischayn22: I disagree with that, it's silly [14:55:08] 03petrb * 10/trunk/tools/wmib/ (7 files): [14:55:09] Moved irc stuff out of core, still depends on each other but should be flexible in future [14:55:09] Threaded writer [14:55:24] look in MediaWiki, no classes with version number postfixes there [14:55:50] nischayn22: what other stuff do you think is badly named? There is some stuff that inconsistent, but overall it's not to bad anytmore I would think [14:55:58] JeroenDeDauw: MW has really nice code structure, lets call it Store3 until I am completely done with it [14:56:04] sumanah: let me try them.. [14:56:11] nischayn22: uh [14:56:14] nischayn22: o_O [14:56:17] The table names are really bad [14:56:25] nischayn22: you have not looked at the code to much then :D [14:56:40] MW has a whole pile of horrors [14:57:12] I think it's similarish to SMW actually [14:57:15] dunno, All the code I explored was nice [14:57:32] Yeah, lot of recentish interfaces in MW are nice [14:57:43] at least in MW I figured out myself what page table did :) [14:58:00] nischayn22: then again, page table is simpler then the smw tables :p [14:58:15] nischayn22: code archaeology is always a process of discovery [14:58:17] New patchset: Hashar; "(bug 36908) Language::isValidBuiltInCode passed an object" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7792 [14:58:19] sometimes pleasant, sometimes not! [14:58:22] And SMW has a lot of code that simply is hard to understand if you do not understand the big picture [14:58:27] sumanah: I found this interesting post about new contributors http://jakarta.apache.org/site/contributing.html [14:58:31] 03(mod) Language::isValidBuiltInCode is being passed an object! - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36908 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [14:59:17] JeroenDeDauw: I think SMW has gone way too complex, allowing such complex ask queries is what makes it more complex [14:59:22] nischayn22: When you read that, do you see your own experience reflected in it? [14:59:26] and the Description class [14:59:44] JeroenDeDauw: if I wanted to point someone to something like https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:MediaWiki_architecture for SMW, what would be the best document? [14:59:56] sumanah: to some extent, I knew PHP though :) [15:00:13] New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7792 [15:00:26] nischayn22: well, most of the compliexity there is inherit to allowing such queries, which is simply what SMW is. It could be better architectured and way better documented though [15:00:47] sumanah: that's the bad thing, we do not have something like this [15:01:01] sumanah: basically the only person that knows how all the stuff fits together is Markus [15:01:09] New review: GWicke; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7782 [15:01:11] Change merged: GWicke; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7782 [15:01:11] sumanah: and me most of it, after poking at it for so long [15:01:18] sumanah: I think such a document could arise after my project is done, as some architecture will change [15:01:24] Although we have something partial now [15:01:26] JeroenDeDauw: As you may know, Guillaume (and to a lesser extent I) led the writing of that MW architecture document for the AOSA book http://www.aosabook.org/en/index.html [15:01:53] New patchset: GWicke; "Simplistic wikitext round-tripping with parse.js --wikitext" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7793 [15:02:02] JeroenDeDauw: nischayn22 - for the next Architecture of Open Source Applications book, editor Greg Wilson specifically wants to focus on performance! So nischayn22, after your GSoC project, you should consider writing a chapter for AOSA [15:02:21] New review: Reha Sterbin; "One more question." [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7151 [15:02:27] sumanah: http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Architecture_guide and http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Programmer%27s_guide_to_SMW [15:02:58] The important missing stuff is query answering and storage [15:03:03] JeroenDeDauw: SMW should have more developers too, on every file I see only two names (easy to guess :) [15:03:07] Although nischayn22 will change stuff related to the later obviously [15:03:37] nischayn22: Last year there were a few GSoC students for SMW and it would be rocking if they came back into continuing SMW development [15:03:41] nischayn22: sure, why do you think we are participating in GSOC? :p [15:03:56] sumanah: meh, I don't think this is doing to happen [15:04:05] :/ [15:04:38] I expect more people to get involved now that we have this Wikidata thing though [15:04:44] Very possible! [15:04:53] And recently I saw some increase in contribs to SMW related extensions [15:04:56] JeroenDeDauw: How is that going? Are you settling into Berlin happily? [15:05:00] Not related to WD I guess tho [15:05:04] JeroenDeDauw: right [15:05:07] sumanah: yeah [15:05:20] sumanah: I even survived the 3 hour long meeting we just had >_> [15:05:33] 03(mod) sitematrix output; inverted queries for smstate - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36903 (10Umherirrender) [15:05:33] 03(mod) Non Core API issues (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/23855 (10Umherirrender) [15:05:39] Nod. [15:05:48] But Berlin is awesome [15:05:51] And so is the WD team [15:05:57] That's great to hear! [15:05:58] And other WMDE people ofc [15:05:59] sumanah: I am trying to setup Extension:Knowledgebase/SpecialKB.php ... It requires require_once( 'SpecialPage.php' ); ... That is not present in my installation... can u guide me how to set it up? [15:06:15] o_O [15:06:24] polk: I personally cannot, no, because I am less expert than probably 70% of the people in this channel. What version of MediaWiki are you using? [15:07:06] sumanah: I also found a MBA course that suits my needs :) www.iimb.ernet.in/pgsem [15:07:09] sumanah: polk: that's one old extension [15:07:22] polk: you can probably just remove that line [15:07:26] In the extension [15:07:35] JeroenDeDauw: IIRC there are some patches awaiting review against some Semantic-related extensions https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=patch-need-review%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&list_id=116132&resolution=---&query_format=advanced&component=Semantic%20MediaWiki&component=SemanticCompoundQueries&component=SemanticDrilldown&component=SemanticForms&component=SemanticFormsInputs&component=SemanticMaps&component=SemanticResultFormats& [15:07:36] component=SemanticSignup&component=SemanticWatchlist&product=MediaWiki%20extensions ... the developers who submitted those might be encourageable [15:07:47] version 1.19.0 [15:07:57] JeroenDeDauw: thanks... will try that [15:08:22] polk: quite plausible you'll run into more issues though, extension looks rather unmaintained [15:08:28] polk: I should have mentioned that I had no idea whether that extension was useful at all, or obsolete [15:08:48] New patchset: GWicke; "Simplistic wikitext round-tripping with parse.js --wikitext" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7793 [15:08:55] polk: You can do the same with SMW + Semantic Forms btw, although that setup is a lot more powerful (and thus more complex) [15:09:05] JeroenDeDauw: sumanah thenaks for your inputs... will share my findings in a while [15:09:48] sumanah: yeah, this is linked... not on the page I gave you, but here http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Roadmap [15:10:26] sumanah: if you can get someone to apply those to gerrit I'd be very happy :p [15:10:33] JeroenDeDauw: the link there needs updating because someone changed the keyword from need-review to patch-need-review.... [15:10:54] * sumanah checks whether she has an account already to edit the wiki [15:11:34] JeroenDeDauw: we could ask nischayn22 to do that Bugzilla-to-gerrit transfer! We can call it a learning experience! [15:12:58] nischayn22: I have never heard of that particular MBA course -- best wishes, in any case [15:13:56] sumanah: I myself just googled and landed on that page. But cracking CAT or GMAT is not easy [15:14:30] sumanah: I have no idea how to do that transfer right now, but I can learn [15:15:00] nischayn22: here is a sample https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35836 [15:15:47] JeroenDeDauw, I think I overheard something the other day about allowing the "forging" of authorship for some of the Semantic extensions' Gerrit projects? so that I could submit a git branch and say the author is someone else? [15:15:50] sumanah: so what I have to do is to make that patch into a gerrit commit? [15:15:54] * sumanah might have misunderstood [15:16:25] yes, nischayn22 -- but please check first whether the relevant Semantic extension is converted to Git/Gerrit yet [15:16:28] I think some are not, yet [15:18:35] hm.. i've created a category and then clicked on the missing link to create the respective category page. now each time i visit a page within that category, the category page appears to be noncreated. how can i fix that? [15:19:22] <_Meow> azi: Did you purged the page? [15:19:29] <_Meow> *purge [15:19:42] _Meow: no. i don't know what that is [15:20:20] <_Meow> azi: Append ?action=purge or &action=purge to the URL [15:21:15] _Meow: ok i did that but it seems still not to work [15:26:46] JeroenDeDauw: I saw SMW + Semantic Forms and it looks more complex for my needs... i am looking for far more simplar implementation [15:27:11] JeroenDeDauw: U have any other alternatives? [15:28:04] _Meow: any other clue? [15:28:24] <_Meow> azi: Could you provide a like? [15:28:40] 03(mod) migrate mwmultiversion to git - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36873 +comment (10Chad H.) [15:29:02] _Meow: a link? can i give it to you in private? [15:29:06] sumanah: no - this has nothing to do with SMW [15:29:12] <_Meow> azi: Sure [15:29:21] JeroenDeDauw: ok [15:29:27] sumanah: the svn to git migration went badly for Maps and Semantic Maps - most of their history was missing [15:29:30] <_Meow> Sorry for the wrong spelling [15:29:38] JeroenDeDauw: Aha. [15:29:42] sumanah: so I fixed this yesterday and then needed to be able to push commits made by others [15:29:49] Understood. [15:29:58] Off again now [15:30:04] That's annoying. Glad you and Chad were able to fix [15:30:15] polk: nope, sorry [15:30:21] SMW is always nice to have though :d [15:30:33] *is might be slightly biased* [15:30:45] :D [15:30:56] will give it a try anyway [15:31:14] give it a try :) [15:31:18] <^demon> MediaWiki with no extensions is my favorite. Although I might be slightly biased too ;-) [15:31:32] 03(FIXED) ensure logs in /home/wikipedia/logs are rotated - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36872 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [15:34:33] ^demon: without !e Awesomeness, you mad? [15:34:54] ^demon: I guess spam bots will agree with your assessment though :d [15:35:06] <^demon> None of my wikis are public :p [15:35:34] ^demon: ofc not, someone might come by and edit it! Imagine that o_O [15:35:50] zOMG security vulnerability!!!!1111one [15:36:28] Do I get the "1337 h4x0r" badge now? [15:36:31] <^demon> JeroenDeDauw: No, all my wikis are on my localhost ;-) [15:37:20] <_Meow> Is creating a page with no content permitted in MediaWiki? [15:37:21] 03(mod) Keep home-random menu expanded after clicking random - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30842 -patch -patch-need-review (10Jon) [15:37:23] hm.. is there any way to force some noncaching or something? some pages on my wiki are simply not rendering math [15:37:35] _Meow: if it's empty it won't save [15:37:45] You can create a page and then empty it though [15:37:55] <_Meow> JeroenDeDauw: Thanks [15:37:55] And maybe you can directly create an empty one via the API or so, not sure [15:38:01] <_Meow> cc/ azi [15:38:07] JeroenDeDauw: I have to write all sql queries in smwsqlhelper style :( [15:38:11] right now I'm using an #ifeq with another embedded #ifeq, this works. replacing it with #switch and a number of cases doesn't match at all :/ [15:38:23] nischayn22: how do you figure that> [15:38:55] to create new tables I have to do that, MW uses .sql files instead [15:39:04] nischayn22: you know, I really ought to have a real look at the current stuff and put some though into this myself before I can give you decent advice, will try to do that later today or tomorrow [15:39:23] <_Meow> azi: With MathJax? [15:39:42] JeroenDeDauw: fine :) [15:39:48] _Meow: right. you can see it on the link i gave you [15:39:50] nischayn22: yeah... we have our own updating stuff for some historical reasons, I think we could ditch it though [15:39:55] nischayn22: if we can, we should [15:40:06] nischayn22: should check with Markus though, might still be a reason to have it [15:40:10] <_Meow> azi: Sorry, I don't know anything about MathJax [15:40:13] But it's inconvenient both for devs and users [15:40:36] JeroenDeDauw: actually its nice I think, don't have to write separately for pgsql [15:40:50] New review: Umherirrender; "#coordinates is a local wiki addition and not a core default. You should apply or change the css off..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7778 [15:40:51] I geuss it's sort of linked to the adittional abstraction layer we current have and is obsolete so you'll be throing part of it out anyway [15:41:17] nischayn22: c'mon, 2 schema files is not that bad [15:41:30] New review: Umherirrender; "#coordinates is a local wiki addition and not a core default. You should apply or change the css off..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7779 [15:41:31] And it's how core and "all" other extensions do it [15:41:48] Oh my [15:41:55] We have #coordinates in core? :/ [15:42:19] Markus abstracted even for 2 types :P [15:42:37] 03(mod) Some skins don't float coordinates below the central notice banner - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33825 +comment (10Umherirrender) [15:43:05] nischayn22: yeah, it was overengineerd [15:43:14] Not hard to run into that trap [15:43:27] I did as well for the second iteration of both Maps and Validator [15:43:36] And am now simplifying the later [15:43:40] yay for big rewrites that change lots of stuff >_< [15:44:02] the complexity of SMW sometimes scares new contributors [15:44:46] nischayn22: probably [15:46:02] [[FOO]] will open the page named FOO. how can create a link to a category page? [15:47:28] <^demon> azi: [[:Category:Foo]] [15:47:39] ^demon: thank you [15:50:45] New review: Umherirrender; "This handle bug 35137" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7286 [15:50:55] 03(mod) Special:MovePage should disable options for immovable namespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35137 +comment (10Umherirrender) [15:56:07] 03petrb * 10/trunk/tools/wmib/ (10 files in 2 dirs): Work in progress [15:58:12] there should be another way to know who edited a particular line in a page, rather than going through history [16:00:40] nischayn22: you want WikiBlame! [16:00:43] or WikiPraise [16:00:47] Daniel_WMDE: ^^^ [16:02:08] nischayn22, sumanah: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/de/wiki/Benutzer:NetAction/WikiTrust/WikiPraise [16:02:38] Let me guess, Daniel_WMDE - you grabbed that URI from your awesomebar history/ [16:02:40] nischayn22, I did a script importing pages into git, which then could blame them [16:02:40] ? [16:02:43] sumanah: there's an ongoing discussion between (mainly) tim and luca about implementing a "blame" feature directly into mediawiki [16:02:51] Daniel_WMDE: ah yes [16:02:55] sumanah: sure, why? [16:02:59] but it didn't work too well (since 'lines' are very long) [16:03:06] Daniel_WMDE: I guessed based on the secure.wikimedia.org link. :) [16:03:19] ah, right, httpseverywhere is still using that [16:03:22] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "I'll test this later. But my guess was that the issue was caused by calling panTo, which would then ..." [mediawiki/extensions/Maps] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7785 [16:03:25] you should talk to these guys :P [16:03:38] Platonides: do you know of the levitation projuect? [16:03:38] Daniel_WMDE: you need to update HTTPS everywhere; it's been updated [16:03:49] sumanah: it should update itself, actually... [16:04:02] well, i'll pooke at it at some point [16:04:11] Daniel_WMDE: I'm on HTTPS Everywhere 2.0.3 and it treats Wikimedia URIs appropriately. [16:04:27] hm... [16:04:31] Platonides: http://scytale.name/blog/2009/11/announcing-levitation [16:04:45] propject is pretty dead, but still interesting, and the code may be useful... dunno [16:04:50] so its not an extension right? [16:05:16] sumanah: i also have 2.0.3... [16:05:17] didn't find on MW.org [16:05:50] New patchset: Kaldari; "Adding badger jQuery plugin, to be modified for use in curation toolbar" [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7796 [16:06:16] sumanah: oh... https everywhere is workign correctly now. i just had the old link in my history. [16:06:18] anyway [16:06:21] gotta go [16:06:22] cu [16:06:28] bye! [16:07:23] 03(mod) JavaScript not labeled as free - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36866 +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger) [16:08:54] 03(mod) FCKEditor does not display because of undefined js variable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36869 +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger) [16:11:04] New review: Amire80; "A couple of minor nitpicks." [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7769 [16:11:06] 03(mod) Wiktionary needs usable API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36881 +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger) [16:12:35] 03(mod) Database error re page triage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36886 (10Mark A. Hershberger) [16:15:10] 03(mod) Unnecessary "

" tags created in Main page by MF extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36893 (10Mark A. Hershberger) [16:18:22] 03(mod) Mobile browser autodetection doesn't work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36894 (10Mark A. Hershberger) [16:18:58] 03(FIXED) Unnecessary "

" tags created in Main page by MF extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36893 +comment (10Jon) [16:19:46] just got a new email id @acm.org thanks MW :) [16:19:48] New patchset: Kaldari; "Adding badger jQuery plugin, to be modified for use in curation toolbar Patch 1: Making some initial modification to the plug-in Change-Id: Ic3d53c2f64189b9a3d9afaa83057cde75fe2063e" [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7796 [16:21:21] 03(mod) GND (PND) to VIAF transitions - VIAF detection if the GND is known - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36880 (10Mark A. Hershberger) [16:21:32] 03(mod) minimal VIAF and GND / PND length - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36887 (10Mark A. Hershberger) [16:21:54] 03(NEW) Article Feedback Links - Remove Options A and E links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36909 normal; MediaWiki extensions: ArticleFeedbackv5; (fflorin) [16:22:11] 03(mod) VIAF to orlabs.oclc.org / www.worldcat.org transitions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36888 (10Mark A. Hershberger) [16:22:17] 03(mod) Article Feedback Links - Remove Options A and E links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36909 normal->major; +aftv5-1.5 (10Fabrice Florin) [16:22:21] 03(mod) adjust / limit the toolserver queries to its capacity - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36890 (10Mark A. Hershberger) [16:22:21] Change abandoned: Jdlrobson; "Apologies... didn't really #coordinates wasn't a mediawiki core feature." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7778 [16:22:58] 03(mod) Some skins don't float coordinates below the central notice banner - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33825 +comment (10Jon) [16:23:14] 03(mod) no choice for PD-old-70 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34531 +comment (10Mark Holmquist) [16:23:59] 03(mod) Some skins don't float coordinates below the central notice banner - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33825 +comment (10Jon) [16:24:26] nischayn22: Neat! [16:24:53] 03(mod) Restrict media upload to autopatrolled users on sv.wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36895 normal->15enhancement (10Mark A. Hershberger) [16:25:07] 03(mod) delete deployment-web* instances - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36870 (10Mark A. Hershberger) [16:25:14] sumanah: I might do some research about semantic web ;) [16:25:39] cool [16:25:41] 03(mod) calling LogPage::actionText() directly after the log conversion might give garbage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36896 (10Mark A. Hershberger) [16:27:00] 03(mod) wmflabs.org does not resolve - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36885 (10Mark A. Hershberger) [16:27:24] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "add since tags" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7799 [16:27:29] 03(mod) Coding style issues in interwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36900 (10Mark A. Hershberger) [16:28:16] New patchset: Jpostlethwaite; "(mingle-fr-2012-69) Merging fraudulent country handling code" [mediawiki/extensions/DonationInterface] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7800 [16:28:41] 03(mod) Need interface for diff-based DataUpdates in WIkiPage::doEdit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36898 (10Mark A. Hershberger) [16:29:03] 03(mod) division by zero in StatsTable.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36904 (10Mark A. Hershberger) [16:29:06] * Dantman doesn't like waking up at 5AM [16:29:15] New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7799 [16:29:24] 03(mod) null object generate an error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36905 (10Mark A. Hershberger) [16:29:43] 03(mod) some illegal offset in 1.20wmf2 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36906 (10Mark A. Hershberger) [16:29:56] 03(mod) null object passed to WmlContext constructor - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36907 (10Mark A. Hershberger) [16:30:14] 03(mod) Language::isValidBuiltInCode is being passed an object! - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36908 (10Mark A. Hershberger) [16:30:22] Change abandoned: Jpostlethwaite; "This should have amended a commit." [mediawiki/extensions/DonationInterface] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7800 [16:30:33] 03(mod) sitematrix output; inverted queries for smstate - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36903 (10Mark A. Hershberger) [16:32:03] paulproteus, welcome :) [16:39:11] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "[FileBackend] Avoid infinite loops when populating missing metadata in Swift." [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf3) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7802 [16:40:05] New review: Aaron Schulz; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf3); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7802 [16:40:07] Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf3) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7802 [16:43:29] New patchset: GWicke; "Simplistic wikitext round-tripping with parse.js --wikitext" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7793 [16:43:38] marktraceur_: Thanks (: [16:43:50] 03(mod) Multiple division by zeros - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36315 +comment (10Niklas Laxström) [16:43:50] 14(DUP) division by zero in StatsTable.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36904 +comment (10Niklas Laxström) [16:48:01] 03(mod) Visiting history should mark page as visited too - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36763 +comment (10Brad Jorsch) [16:52:52] New patchset: preilly; "Fix createCarrierOptionsFromWikiText method" [mediawiki/extensions/ZeroRatedMobileAccess] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7803 [16:53:13] New review: preilly; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/ZeroRatedMobileAccess] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7803 [16:53:15] Change merged: preilly; [mediawiki/extensions/ZeroRatedMobileAccess] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7803 [16:53:27] * nischayn22 thinking of an extension that lets you specify link to an external wiki page and it will pull all the wiki text from that page onto yours [16:57:05] 03(NEW) The link in the zero-rated banner does not take me to more information about wp zero - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36910 normal; Wikimedia Mobile: Content; (bhartshorne) [17:00:22] New patchset: preilly; "Update ZeroRatedMobileAccess to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf3) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7805 [17:01:17] New patchset: Amire80; "(bug 36756) Renaming elsewhere to otherWiki etc." [mediawiki/extensions/TranslationNotifications] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7806 [17:02:22] New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf3); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7805 [17:03:17] New patchset: preilly; "Update ZeroRatedMobileAccess to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7807 [17:04:46] New review: preilly; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf3); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7805 [17:04:48] Change merged: preilly; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf3) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7805 [17:04:49] New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf2); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7807 [17:04:54] New review: preilly; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf2); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7807 [17:04:56] Change merged: preilly; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7807 [17:11:05] New patchset: Kaldari; "Adding badger jQuery plugin, to be modified for use in curation toolbar Patch 1,2: Making some initial modifications to the plug-in Change-Id: Ic3d53c2f64189b9a3d9afaa83057cde75fe2063e" [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7796 [17:13:25] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "[FileBackend] Added doQuickOperations() function for things like purging thumbnails." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7771 [17:15:21] New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7771 [17:17:23] 03(mod) sitematrix output; inverted queries for smstate - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36903 normal->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [17:18:17] aharoni: should I be checking in with you re 20% time today? [17:19:15] sumanah: Yes. I never actually did this "check in" thing, and i should. [17:19:27] aharoni: :-) Is this a good time of day for you? [17:19:32] Yes. [17:19:56] aharoni: OK! So, of the various stuff mentioned in https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_engineering_20%25_policy#Scope scope, what do you like to do? [17:20:17] aharoni: I know you do a fair amount of blogging and other relevant community outreach and communication [17:21:17] sumanah: oh, does that count? :) [17:21:35] aharoni: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/status:open+project:^mediawiki.*,n,z there are probably about 100 merge requests pending against MediaWiki & its extensions in Gerrit, and about 150-200 patches awaiting review in Bugzilla [17:21:55] aharoni: Absolutely, engaging in public community discussions & education counts [17:22:51] sumanah: Oh! How can I get to that page without knowing that URL? I looked for smart queries in Gerrit and couldn't find anything. [17:23:08] New patchset: Umherirrender; "multi dbms support in api" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/6706 [17:23:10] aharoni: I DO NOT KNOWWWWWW [17:23:17] aharoni: it's regex magic :/ [17:23:33] rotfl. [17:23:43] the default gerrit screens are very partically useful. [17:24:06] i mean "partially" [17:24:20]