[00:01:39] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "[FileBackend] MultiWrite code improvements and sanity checks." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7980 [00:03:38] New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7980 [00:04:43] deeb: so TimStarling & I just ran some stats on the people who mentioned they're interested in Lua at the hackathon [00:04:48] New patchset: Victor Vasiliev; "(bug 36939) Introduce a way to limit username filter to certain sources." [mediawiki/extensions/TitleBlacklist] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8881 [00:05:04] We asked what people wanted to learn: 97 are interested in Labs, 92 in Wikidata, 75 in Gadgets and 74 in Lua [00:05:50] brion: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/8627/ wrappers! :) [00:06:14] deeb: 8 people mentioned templates in their freeform text answers, with some overlap with the 9 people who mentioned Lua in their freeform text answers (including Victor & Ross) [00:13:04] 03(mod) Article Feedback - Final Feedback Form (Option 5) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36647 +comment (10Fabrice Florin) [00:16:14] New patchset: RobLa; "Tool to generate wikified deployment notes" [mediawiki/tools/release] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8850 [00:20:30] New patchset: Kaldari; "Fixing bug 36615 - open pages in new tabs" [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8883 [00:23:36] New patchset: RobLa; "Tool to generate wikified deployment notes" [mediawiki/tools/release] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8850 [00:26:14] New review: Kaldari; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8730 [00:26:16] Change merged: Kaldari; [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8730 [00:26:57] 03(FIXED) Pages should open in a new tab - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36615 +comment (10Ryan Kaldari) [00:37:47] New review: Aaron Schulz; "Idea seems reasonable." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/6394 [00:55:26] 03(mod) Article Feedback Page - Metrics Stage 4 Test: Survey button, bucketing and/or click tracking - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36650 +comment (10Fabrice Florin) [01:03:06] New patchset: Matthias Mullie; "re-enable feedback-link on talk-page" [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8884 [01:04:07] 03(FIXED) Let uploading of files start as soon as you select them - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/26167 (10Erik Moeller) [01:11:43] New patchset: Subramanya Sastry; "- First attempt implementing rewriting rules on the DOM as a post-processing pass. This code is not yet robust, doesn't preserve DOM attributes, and might require additional checks." [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8885 [01:30:20] Hello? [01:30:36] Hi AndChat248436 [01:30:52] Hey, nice to see you. [01:31:25] Do you dispense advice about mediawiki? [01:31:48] Um, I might be able to help you with MediaWiki problems, yeah.. [01:32:44] Why the "um"? I'm sure youre very knowledgable. [01:33:27] What is considered the optimal distro for hosting mediawiki? [01:33:49] 03(NEW) Upload Wizard should check for protection status of titles - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37107 normal; MediaWiki extensions: UploadWizard; (erik) [01:35:02] AndChat248436, optimal distro? As in linux distribution? [01:35:11] Yes. [01:35:32] WMF uses Ubuntu [01:35:49] But most others should work just fine [01:35:57] Im asuming since mw was developed on LAMP that linux is a given? [01:36:26] Hi Heather. [01:36:43] hi AndChat248436 [01:37:26] Sorry about the goofy name, but I almost never use irc and didnt feel inspired tonight. [01:38:30] AndChat248436, I think some people run it on windows. For obvious reasons I don't recommend it. [01:39:25] Heather, do you have strong feelings about linus distros for hosting mw? [01:40:00] No feelings at all. :) [01:41:00] Any one liners for a noob? [01:41:24] 03(NEW) Initial duplicate check is broken in Firefox, Chrome (not Opera) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37108 normal; MediaWiki extensions: UploadWizard; (erik) [01:41:27] You won't be a noob for long ;) [01:42:27] Yea, I'm pretty excited about this. I think I'll learn a lot. [01:44:03] Krenair, Heather, how about SQL? Postegre sounds like its making great sgrides. [01:45:08] Would it be a bad idea to use it? I liked the documentation and community more than mysql, and Oracle kind of skeeves me out. [01:45:15] MW is tested with MySQL [01:45:30] But other DBs should work fine [01:45:40] Hi dassouki. [01:45:59] "MediaWiki currently uses MySQL as the primary database back-end. It also supports other DBMSes, such as PostgreSQL and SQLite. However, almost all developers use MySQL and don't test other DBs, which consequently break on a regular basis. You're therefore advised to use MySQL when testing patches, unless you're specifically trying to improve support for another DB. In the latter case, make sure you're careful not to break MySQL (or write queries t [01:45:59] hat are horribly inefficient in it), since that's what everybody else uses." [01:46:11] Hi Damianz. [01:46:54] Hrm... Interesting. [01:47:42] I come at this with the most knowledge about SQL so I think I might wing it and go postgre. [01:48:24] Everything else is an open book. I'll go along with whatever I'm told. [01:49:07] Hi Aaron [01:51:01] Is Oracle going ti try amd buy mw? [01:51:52] Let me try that again: Is Oracle going to try and buy MediaWiki? [01:53:25] AndChat248436: you should really use Slackware [01:53:29] Hrm. All quiet. Ok. Krenair, thank you. Heather, I expect you to be very opinionated next time. I was very disapointed. [01:53:50] Hi Schroeder. Why? [01:54:02] because it has zero flaws [01:54:04] it just works [01:54:30] New patchset: Jpostlethwaite; "(mingle-fr-2012-426) Handle non-existent or disabled forms" [mediawiki/extensions/DonationInterface] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8886 [01:54:32] Ooh. Absolutes like that make me actually less likely to try it. [01:54:56] I'm sorry you've declared war on reality. [01:55:18] Heheh. Touche. [01:56:13] No, I will load a vm of slackware this very evening and see how I do. [01:56:39] New patchset: Jpostlethwaite; "(mingle-fr-2012-426) Handle non-existent or disabled forms" [mediawiki/extensions/DonationInterface] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8886 [01:57:01] How about sql, whos the best there? [01:57:55] Hi drecomdeam. [01:59:20] Schroeder, help me out here... [02:00:28] Hi Bombo [02:00:38] 03(NEW) Sometimes, Learn > Upload .. headings are incorrectly centered - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37109 trivial; MediaWiki extensions: UploadWizard; (erik) [02:02:28] Gah! This is why I loathe IRC. People disappear when things get interesting [02:03:39] Hi anti. [02:03:52] Oh,, your a bot. [02:04:06] "you're" [02:05:34] You type on a droid screen in IRC and see if you don't get lazy after a while. [02:06:17] So how about SQL, Schroeder? [02:08:36] 03(NEW) Can LDAPAuthentication support alias deference? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37110 normal; MediaWiki extensions: LdapAuthentication; (cychau) [02:10:47] Hi Emily. [02:13:19] Wow, ok, you are all too cool for me. I think I better bail and stop stinking up the joint with all my newness and curiosity and enthusiasm. [02:13:26] Hi AndChat248436 [02:13:33] * sumanah was away [02:13:39] Hi sumanah. [02:13:56] Sometimes the timezones are not favorable to chattiness; Europe's asleep, California's at dinner, etc. [02:14:48] I just skimmed the backscroll. Yes, if you're looking for an easy installation, we recommend LAMP; if you want to experiment, MediaWiki on PostgreSQL does also have some users & administrators [02:15:35] Thank you, very kind of you. [02:15:49] There are lots of MediaWiki installations within Oracle, I've heard. [02:16:33] you could roll your own [02:16:37] [02:16:40] fairly trivial [02:16:49] I recommend it [02:16:52] great learning experience [02:17:01] The Wikimedia Foundation is dedicated to hosting Wikipedia and its sibling projects on open source software. So we're dedicated to continuing to develop MediaWiki as open source software. [02:17:34] !howto [02:17:34] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_become_a_MediaWiki_hacker [02:17:53] !events [02:17:53] We run face-to-face events for MediaWiki developers and people who want to learn: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_developer_meetings We also have online meetings in IRC to triage bugs: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Bug_management/Triage [02:18:51] There are also other related Wikimedia technical communities: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_developer_hub [02:19:19] AndChat248436: You may find it useful to read https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:MediaWiki_architecture [02:19:57] Might be easier to read in this format: http://www.aosabook.org/en/mediawiki.html [02:21:03] This is great, thank you. [02:21:53] 03(mod) Content (including categories) not showing on file redirects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27857 +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [02:22:39] 03(mod) [MySQL] Possibility for confusing error messages upon opening connection, while background connection is open - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34819 +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [02:23:15] Ok, this is a good start. Letme go read and i'll talk later. [02:23:23] Thank you. [02:23:54] 03(mod) Create XML category dumps - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/16176 +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [02:25:07] 03(mod) Unique identity constraints for XML dump format schema - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/4220 +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [02:27:05] New patchset: Subramanya Sastry; "First attempt implementing rewriting rules on the DOM" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8885 [02:27:40] 03(mod) The language used to render SVGs should be definable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32987 +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [02:29:37] 03(mod) Accessibility for embedded images - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34750 +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [02:29:53] When creating a new wiki, is there documentation for writing a disclaimer? Or can I just copy Wikipedia/Mediawiki if I use the same license? [02:30:24] 03(mod) MimeMagic aliases the empty string to all "main" mime types - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/10348 +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [02:32:12] chiElement: I don't see any particular reason why you shouldn't use a disclaimer that says what you want to say..... [02:32:18] chiElement: but of course I am not a lawyer [02:32:48] 03(mod) element is "Error" for all error pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/26069 +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [02:34:00] <wikibugs> 03(mod) "Continue" button is positioned too far down on second screen - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36832 +comment (10Erik Moeller) [02:34:18] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Subramanya Sastry; "First attempt implementing rewriting rules on the DOM" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8885 [02:34:38] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Followup to bug 11374 - tweaks to mediawiki.action.history.diff.css - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35923 +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [02:35:46] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Installer does not respect initial DBport declaration - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28162 +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [02:37:55] <wikibugs> 03(mod) jquery.makeCollapsible() very slow if many collapsible, initially collapsed elements - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34876 +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [02:38:18] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Accesskeys in tooltips should use “ctrl-option-” prefix - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36329 +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [02:38:49] <wikibugs> 03(mod) [jquery.tipsy] Feature to keep tip active when hovering to and over the tip itself - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35212 +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [02:39:45] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Improve SQLite detection, to be able to execute SQLite tests - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34759 +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [02:39:51] <gerrit-wm> New review: Krinkle; "Could we get a little more discussion about this?" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8345 [02:41:44] <wikibugs> 03(mod) userPromote.php: Grants an account administrator rights (maintenance) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35623 -patch-need-review +patch-reviewed; +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [02:42:29] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Disable the 'Show changes' button when no changes are done to page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22448 +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [02:43:27] <wikibugs> 03(mod) no diff when click "show changes" by section=new on non existing page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/23137 -patch -patch-need-review (10Sumana Harihareswara) [02:45:19] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Enable XFN rel=me for links on User Profile pages and rel="author" links on topic articles - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29968 +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [02:45:51] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Magic word returning protection expiry - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/17354 +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [02:46:36] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Log excerpts contain bogus checkboxes for revdel instead of a (del/undel) link - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36973 summary (10Krinkle) [02:46:43] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Pre-save transform skips extensions using wikitext (gallery, references, footnotes, Cite, pipe trick, subst, signatures) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/2700 +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [02:47:28] <wikibugs> 03(mod) [Regression] Log excerpts contain bogus checkboxes for revdel instead of a (del/undel) link - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36973 summary (10Krinkle) [02:47:51] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Split magic linking out of core; create new magic linking extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/26207 +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [02:48:08] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Chunked upload fails with internal_api_error_UploadStashFileNotFoundException - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36587 +comment (10Erik Moeller) [02:50:15] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Linebreaks are mishandled in <blockquote> and <li> - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/6200 +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [02:54:11] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) Some filenames fail with 'unknown-error:unknown-warning' on first step - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30646 +comment (10Erik Moeller) [02:54:43] <wikibugs> 03(mod) New Hook: "InternalParseBeforeSanitize" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34678 +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [02:55:33] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Add a drop-down list for the tags in Recentchanges and Newpages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/25909 +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [02:56:15] <wikibugs> 03(mod) add getCallStack() function to mediawiki.log - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27999 +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [02:56:31] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) UploadWizard 1.1 (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27800 +comment (10Erik Moeller) [02:56:57] <wikibugs> 03(mod) mw.util.wikiGetlink should allow query parameter passing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30803 +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [02:57:35] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) step 3 (after uploading): the thumbnail preview popup has scrollbars - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33337 +comment (10Erik Moeller) [02:58:00] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) copyMetadataCtrlDiv is undefined - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36840 (10Erik Moeller) [02:58:59] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Improve mediawiki.special.movePage.js to remove the namespace name when the user paste the full target name in the field - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34848 +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [03:00:09] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Ambiguous "Password:" header on Special:ChangeEmail - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35987 +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [03:00:42] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Detect conflict on move - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30211 +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [03:02:08] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Uploading stuck about 1-2 minutes on "Finished!" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34997 +comment (10Erik Moeller) [03:02:35] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) handle upload filesize > maxfilesize gracefully - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35916 (10Erik Moeller) [03:03:15] <wikibugs> 03(mod) "(last change)" in new messages box should link to combined diff of all changes since last visit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/12701 -patch-need-review +patch-reviewed; +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [03:03:26] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Allow Special:ProtectedPages to display only temporary protections - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32167 -patch-need-review +patch-reviewed; +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [03:04:10] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Add username in new messages bar to prevent UI spoofing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/12693 +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [03:04:39] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Red-link “discussion” tab indicated by colour only - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/17099 +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [03:04:43] <wikibugs> 03(WONTFIX) Ability to "ignore warnings" for duplicate files and same title files missing? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28196 +comment (10Erik Moeller) [03:06:36] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Send notification to account owner on multiple unsuccessful login attempts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/9838 -patch-need-review +patch-reviewed; +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [03:06:51] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) UploadWizard does not work with Opera <= 10.62 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31055 +comment (10Erik Moeller) [03:07:40] <chiElement> sumanah: thanks for tip (sorry for delay, had to leave room) [03:07:49] <sumanah> chiElement: No prob! good luck. [03:08:04] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) Upload wizard: Category adder enhancements - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24704 +comment (10Erik Moeller) [03:08:49] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Make it possible to automatically add pages to watchlist when adding a new section - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33582 -patch-need-review +patch-reviewed; +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [03:11:47] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Enable editors to declare ref body text outside of main article prose. Also Enable editors to control footnote ordering. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/18890 -patch-need-review +patch-reviewed; +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [03:14:14] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Add label to CAPTCHA input field - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34753 +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [03:16:20] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Localize captcha images - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/5309 +i18n; +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [03:17:18] <wikibugs> 03(mod) extension intersection (DynamicPageList) needs a patch to add 'random' sort order - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30654 +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [03:19:18] <wikibugs> 03(mod) useful preload parameters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/14623 -patch-need-review +patch-reviewed; +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [03:19:21] <gerrit-wm> New review: Krinkle; "See also the giant discussion following this:" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8345 [03:20:21] <wikibugs> 03(mod) CJKFilter wrongly tokenize a CJK and non-CJK mixed string. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/26997 +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [03:21:43] <wikibugs> 03(mod) new magic word {{#ifredirect}} - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/26098 +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [03:23:40] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Add support for "table" wrapper, to help fix cut+paste bugs in Firefox - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/20760 +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [03:25:52] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Toolbar API: Unnecessary cookies are stored when inserting a booklet - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/25184 +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [03:26:38] <wikibugs> 03(mod) mw.util.wikiGetlink should allow query parameter passing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30803 +comment (10Krinkle) [03:27:22] <wikibugs> 03(mod) mw.util.wikiGetlink should allow query parameter passing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30803 -patch-need-review +patch-reviewed (10Sumana Harihareswara) [03:28:01] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Wikieditor toolbar has only a half of screen width - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32372 +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [03:28:11] <sumanah> drecodeam: how does it feel to have your code running on a Wikimedia site? [03:28:42] <drecodeam> sumanah: ohh I totally forgot that, but now that you reminded me..its a wonderful feeling [03:28:50] <sumanah> :D [03:28:52] <drecodeam> yay :D [03:29:21] <drecodeam> sumanah: I had to ask you something, as per the release notes are concerned [03:29:36] <drecodeam> is it possible that I can write the Upload Wizard section for every release now on [03:29:49] * sumanah looks at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/owner:drecodeam,n,z [03:30:00] <sumanah> drecodeam: I think that makes sense to me [03:30:17] <drecodeam> sumanah: sam is the person I should be contacting right ? [03:30:31] <sumanah> drecodeam: I think so, Sam Reed & Chris McMahon [03:31:09] <drecodeam> sumanah: ok, I would ask them for q4 release notes [03:33:16] <drecodeam> sumanah: you had asked me to look into this : https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33544 [03:33:49] <drecodeam> Erik has already described in the next comment what needs to be done, but I am afraid in the coming week I would not be able to take out time for it [03:34:42] <sumanah> drecodeam: Then you should focus on the work that is necessary for you to meet your Google Summer of Code schedule, instead. [03:35:07] <sumanah> drecodeam: I only wanted you to look so that you could answer Mike's question, and Erik has already done that. [03:35:12] <sumanah> Sorry, I should have been clearer! [03:35:34] <drecodeam> sumanah: No I had understood that, was just informing you of the status on it [03:35:39] <sumanah> Oh ok! [03:35:53] <sumanah> I think the job of responding to Mike is now done, so everything is roses and sunshine :) [03:36:23] <drecodeam> ahh that reminds me, it has been quite cloudy in Berlin in the past week [03:37:35] <drecodeam> i hope its sunny in the days of hackathon [03:40:15] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Red-link “discussion” tab indicated by colour only - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/17099 +comment (10Krinkle) [03:40:54] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Red-link “discussion” tab indicated by colour only - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/17099 +comment (10Krinkle) [03:42:36] <wikibugs> 03(mod) "Discussion" tab should have indication of inexistent target pages (other than just color) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/17099 summary (10Krinkle) [03:46:42] <sumanah> ok, I have gone through unreviewed patches in Gerrit and in Bugzilla to try to give their authors a bit of help [03:46:58] <sumanah> this is what happens when a friend flakes on me re dinner [03:48:51] <drecodeam> sumanah: :) [03:49:03] <wikibugs> 03(mod) SquidPurgeClient hangs on response from Squid Cache 2.7, or multiple entries in $wgSquidServers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37063 +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [03:53:38] <sumanah> I see shantanoo will also feel that joy soon: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/8035/ [03:54:40] <sumanah> ok, developer access queue is empty again [03:58:39] <Joan> Yay. [04:02:21] <gerrit-wm> New review: Krinkle; "I haven't been able to test this yet, so don't consider this to be a full review. But I left a few c..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7536 [04:10:02] <wikibugs> 03(mod) add getCallStack() function to mediawiki.log - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27999 +need-unittest; +comment (10Krinkle) [04:11:53] <sumanah> Krinkle-away: looking forward to seeing you next week! [04:12:08] <Krinkle-away> Me too, it's been a while :) [04:12:31] <sumanah> Danielle has said very nice things about how prepared you & Roan are for your tutorial. [04:12:58] <Krinkle-away> Good to hear [04:13:21] <sumanah> Krinkle-away: and there are going to be various social and sightseeing events, including sightseeing tours: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Berlin_Hackathon_2012/Sightseeing [04:14:10] <Krinkle-away> interesting [04:15:13] <Krinkle-away> I must say though, Berlin has been a popular destination at most schools I've been with so far. Been there at least every other year for the last 6-7 years. Seen a lot of it. [04:15:29] <Krinkle-away> But at the same time, I must say... I've never been bored or seen the same thing twice. [04:15:37] <Krinkle-away> So there is a lot to be discovered yet [04:16:30] <Krinkle-away> (the travel company Dutch schools deal with must have some kind of special deal with Berlin bus drivers...) [04:17:55] <sumanah> Krinkle-away: yeah, I can see how for people from your part of the world, Berlin sightseeing would be something you've done before. Especially major sights like the ones proposed in this person's list [04:18:26] <sumanah> Krinkle: It will probably be more exciting for people who have never been to Europe before, or never been outside their countries even. [04:18:40] <sumanah> Krinkle: there are some people coming who had to get their first passports in order to come! [04:19:00] <Krinkle> Indeed, but like I said. Although I've been with various schools to various parts of Berlin. I've never been to the same things twice. (other than things that just stand out) [04:19:17] <sumanah> There must be a lot to see :) [04:19:31] <Krinkle> There really is. [04:19:48] <Krinkle> I got my first passport last year for SF / Israel as well. [04:19:51] * sumanah is pretty resigned to spending 4-5 days inside the venue and seeing fluorescent lights and power strips [04:20:16] <Krinkle> Within Europe a simple plastic ID card suffices. [04:20:26] <Krinkle> (well EU anyway) [04:21:42] <Krinkle> ..for EU citizens [04:21:43] <Krinkle> sumanah: Will I be seeing you in DC as well [04:21:43] <Krinkle> ? [04:21:50] <sumanah> Krinkle: At Wikimania? Yes! [04:21:54] <Krinkle> Great [04:22:33] <sumanah> Krinkle: I don't know whether there will be a piano, though! [04:22:58] <Krinkle> I'm checking a proposed flight itinerary at this very moment. [04:23:05] <Krinkle> (which includes a 3-week visit to the office) [04:24:23] <Krinkle> I will be flying from Amsterdam to Washington - via Detroit. [04:24:37] <Krinkle> that sounds odd (geographically speaking) [04:26:19] <sumanah> That is a little weird! [04:26:43] <Krinkle> So it's not just me. [04:26:54] <Krinkle> (I don't know the US map very well) [04:27:24] <Krinkle> anyway, I'll make a small note of it and presume that's just paper work. [04:27:44] <Krinkle> cheaper or better flight [04:28:39] <sumanah> "cheaper" seems likely [04:29:01] <Joan> Krinkle: You're coming to D.C.? [04:29:04] <sumanah> oh man, having this conversation without Roan around just feels wrong! [04:29:06] <Krinkle> Yes [04:29:12] <Joan> It's gonna be a party! [04:29:28] <Krinkle> I think Roan will wake up soon. [04:29:31] <Krinkle> I'm going to bed now though [04:29:32] <Krinkle> :D [04:29:48] <sumanah> Krinkle: Me too. Sleep well! [04:29:49] <Krinkle> (he's in the Netherlands now) [04:30:01] <Krinkle> sumanah: I figured, 0.30 AM there, right ? [04:30:05] <sumanah> Krinkle: https://wikimania2012.wikimedia.org/wiki/Hackathon in case you want to see what some of the participants want to work on [04:30:07] <sumanah> yeah [04:30:09] <Krinkle> bye [04:30:12] <sumanah> Bye! [04:35:53] <uwjesd> Is it possible to display an iframe in a wiki-page? [04:45:07] <gerrit-wm> New review: Krinkle; "Please add release-notes for the bug fix." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8783 [04:45:31] <wikibugs> 03(mod) SquidPurgeClient hangs on response from Squid Cache 2.7, or multiple entries in $wgSquidServers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37063 (10Krinkle) [05:09:05] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Liangent; "Fix a typo in resources/jquery/jquery.byteLimit.js" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8887 [05:11:03] <gerrit-wm> New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8887 [05:27:01] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Santhosh; "PHPUnit tests for digest email feature." [mediawiki/extensions/TranslationNotifications] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8888 [05:41:30] <tale_> uwjesd: At least there was http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Website_in_iFrame [05:42:10] <tale_> uwjesd: Google finds promising links with mediawiki iframe [05:44:31] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Patchwork message - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37098 +comment (10Siebrand) [05:58:31] <gerrit-wm> New review: Liangent; "A use case is written in commit message." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7536 [05:59:32] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Liangent; "Allow custom toggle links to be specified by children with a certain class." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7536 [06:01:33] <gerrit-wm> New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7536 [06:07:59] <uwjesd> tale_: Looking in a search engine. Would not have thought of that. [06:11:29] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Impossible to step from "Upload" to "Release right" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37073 +comment (10rlevente) [06:15:17] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Impossible to step from "Upload" to "Release right" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37073 +comment (10rlevente) [06:18:27] <gerrit-wm> New review: Santhosh; "Pravin S from Red Hat comments:" [mediawiki/extensions/Narayam] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7741 [06:20:31] <gerrit-wm> New review: Santhosh; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Narayam] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8012 [06:20:33] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: Santhosh; [mediawiki/extensions/Narayam] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8012 [06:22:56] <gerrit-wm> New review: Liangent; "Just a note that the original custom toggle implementation has a bug that the instantHide is not set..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7536 [06:25:55] <gerrit-wm> New review: Liangent; "... during page loading." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7536 [06:37:16] <wikibugs> 03(mod) userPromote.php: Grants an account administrator rights (maintenance) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35623 +comment (10Pablo Castellano (IRC: pablog)) [06:49:47] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Liangent; "Allow custom togglers to be specified by children with a certain class." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7536 [06:51:50] <gerrit-wm> New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7536 [07:01:28] <codurr> 03tstarling * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/115431> 10/trunk/php/luasandbox/ (6 files): (log message trimmed) [07:01:28] <codurr> * Add our own copy of the string library, slightly patched to run hook functions [07:01:28] <codurr> during recursive match() operations. This avoids a request/emergency timeout for [07:01:28] <codurr> e.g. string.rep('x', 1000000):find('x*y'), which is O(N^2). Patch included. [07:01:29] <codurr> * Include LUA_MASKCOUNT in the hook mask so that the hook will run after each [07:01:30] <codurr> instruction, not just each line. The exploit scenarios for this one are rather [07:01:31] <codurr> arcane since a one-line loop triggers the line hook on each iteration, but it [07:21:21] <ccy> I successfully install mediawiki 1.19 with OpenID extension. I able to sign in with open id and create local account associated with open id too. Is there possible to create local account without password? [07:24:19] <gerrit-wm> New review: Nikerabbit; "Causes bug 37098" [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8565 [07:35:52] <vvv> TimStarling: why does not it hit the usual time limiter? [07:36:08] <vvv> I thought it covered all in-Lua code except PHP functions [07:37:03] <TimStarling> the hook function is called before each VM instruction, and before and after function calls [07:37:13] <TimStarling> if none of those things happen, it doesn't get called [07:37:42] <vvv> And emergency limit is driven by timer, right? [07:38:20] <TimStarling> not sure what you mean [07:38:25] <TimStarling> both limits are timers [07:38:48] <TimStarling> dinner time [07:45:48] <codurr> New code comment: Nikerabbit; I think style guideline says to use one tab for one level of indentation, not six.; <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/115429#c32821> [07:47:26] <gerrit-wm> New review: Werdna; "@Nikerabbit:" [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/6726 [07:48:57] <gerrit-wm> New review: Nikerabbit; "@Werdna: just run stylize.php on the files before commit." [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/6726 [07:49:14] <gerrit-wm> New review: Siebrand; "Robin, can you add the bug number to the commit summary? I propose we merge it once that's done." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7306 [07:51:08] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) update http://www.mediawiki.org/xml/export-0.7/ - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37111 normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (hashar) [07:51:37] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Hashar; "(bug 4220) dump schema get unique contraints on id" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8889 [07:52:21] <wikibugs> 03(mod) update http://www.mediawiki.org/xml/export-0.7/ - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37111 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [07:52:22] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Unique identity constraints for XML dump format schema - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/4220 (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [07:53:36] <gerrit-wm> New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8889 [07:54:09] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Unique identity constraints for XML dump format schema - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/4220 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [07:54:18] <gerrit-wm> New review: Werdna; "@Nikerabbit: I format my code the way I format it on purpose. I think it's more readable when you do..." [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/6726 [08:01:13] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) Deployment documentation is not kept up to date - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37112 normal; Wikimedia: Git/Gerrit; (niklas.laxstrom) [08:01:46] <wikibugs> 03(mod) add getCallStack() function to mediawiki.log - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27999 +comment (10Michael Dale) [08:02:16] <gerrit-wm> New review: Siebrand; "This resulted in:" [mediawiki/tools/release] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/6571 [08:20:57] <wikibugs> 03(mod) jobs-loop sometime can not find PHP script - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37071 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [08:28:03] <wikibugs> 03(mod) jobs-loop sometime can not find PHP script - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37071 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [08:28:03] <wikibugs> 03(mod) get rid of NFS share - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36646 (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [08:39:03] <wikibugs> 03(mod) malfunction of udp2log log rotation on deployment-feed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37012 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [08:48:43] <wikibugs> 14(DUP) Allow following specific products via bugmail - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36457 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [08:48:44] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Install Component watching extension for bugzilla - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37105 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [08:52:20] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Bugzilla Email Address Privacy Concerns - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/148 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [08:58:29] <wikibugs> 03(mod) List of components and bugs by chronological order for each component in Bugzilla - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36574 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [09:04:02] <wikibugs> 03(mod) useful preload parameters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/14623 +comment (10Bagariavivek) [09:06:17] <codurr> New code comment: Petrb; line?; <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/115429#c32822> [09:07:41] <wikibugs> 03(mod) useful preload parameters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/14623 +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [09:09:03] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) Sections cannot be opened on blackberry - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37059 (10Jon) [09:14:58] <gerrit-wm> Change abandoned: Bagariavivek; "Abandoning due to trailing white-spaces." [mediawiki/extensions/InputBox] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4433 [09:15:15] <wikibugs> 03(mod) useful preload parameters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/14623 +comment (10Bagariavivek) [09:16:54] <wikibugs> 03(mod) useful preload parameters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/14623 +comment (10Bagariavivek) [09:24:50] <potter> Reedy: ping [09:25:45] <potter> Reedy: i had submitted a gerrit patch "https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/4434/" , could you please review it again. Thanks [09:38:09] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) Special:AggregateGroups load fails - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37113 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Translate; (karin.jeppsson) [09:39:45] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Special:AggregateGroups load fails - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37113 +comment (10Niklas Laxström) [09:54:08] <gerrit-wm> New review: GWicke; "An more general alternative to looking for pairs might be to collect all matching (configured for mi..." [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8885 [10:01:21] <gerrit-wm> New review: Krinkle; "Thanks for looking into it, The makeCollapsible plugin has quite a few small quirks. I'd like to pro..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7536 [10:14:50] <Dantman> Wow... arduino, small; xbee, small; relay, small; But to get continuous power into that arduino you need to attach it to a huge converter larger than the whole device [10:15:06] <Dantman> (talking about the Arduino Mini) [10:15:31] <Dantman> Not to mention price... [10:15:46] <Dantman> The converter will probably cost more than the rest of the components... [10:16:26] <gwicke> Dantman: you can also simply get an AVR chip for 50¢ and attach a small battery.. [10:17:21] <Dantman> Blech... [10:18:01] <Dantman> The project I have in mind is home automation. Setting up a box connected to a light that will control wether it's on or off. [10:18:47] <Dantman> Naturally the relay the device controls is connected directly to a power source. [10:18:58] <gwicke> so you need a few relais and transistors too [10:19:35] <Dantman> The idea of powering the microcontroller with a battery when the device is connected to live power sounds ridiculous... [10:19:36] <gwicke> can still be done with that 50¢ attiny.. [10:20:03] <gwicke> if you use bistable relays, you can save a lot of power [10:21:21] <gwicke> an old mobile plug power adapter should also work [10:21:54] <gwicke> anything between 2.5 and 5v really [10:22:39] <p858snake|l> Dantman: why bother with a DIY solution, plently of X10 devices for that already [10:29:07] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Rate limiter blocks never expires when not using memcached - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/20595 +comment (10Vitaliy Filippov) [10:29:33] <Dantman> *twitch* Power line communication... extra funky setups... slow communication... physical limitations... [10:31:30] <Dantman> I felt like rigging something up with mini's controlling individual devices, a central control station, communication over xbee, and motion sensors and a touch sensor switch... Then some smart programming on what to do with the lights. [10:35:04] <Dantman> Unfortunately reality is getting in the way again... First it's, "Oh, I might not be able to fit the devices as something integrated into the light switch receptacle" and now it's "What, the power source will be the largest, most expensive, and hardest to find part of the device? [10:35:21] <Dantman> converter* [10:41:59] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "[FileBackend] Purge Swift process cache before container delete for sanity." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8891 [10:43:57] <gerrit-wm> New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8891 [10:44:25] <codurr> 03siebrand * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/115432> 10/trunk/extensions/OnlineStatus/ (4 files): [10:44:25] <codurr> stylize.php and indentation tweaks. [10:44:25] <codurr> bumped version number. [10:45:38] <wikibugs> 03(mod) The language used to render SVGs should be definable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32987 +comment (10Jarry1250) [10:46:28] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: VitaliyFilippov; "Bug 20595 - Preserve TTL in objectcache incr() method for APC, XCache and DBA. Do not serialize numeric values." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8893 [10:46:31] <codurr> 03siebrand * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/115433> 10/trunk/extensions/OnlineStatusBar/ (6 files): stylize.php. [10:47:02] <wikibugs> 03(mod) The language used to render SVGs should be definable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32987 -patch -patch-need-review (10Jarry1250) [10:47:50] <Dantman> gwicke: The XBee board is larger than the Arduino Mini itself... I probably don't need to bother going as small as the attiny [10:47:53] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Rate limiter blocks never expires when not using memcached - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/20595 +comment (10Vitaliy Filippov) [10:48:27] <gerrit-wm> New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8893 [10:48:44] <gwicke> Dantman: the size of the chip in SMD form factor is a joke anyway- no matter which one you pick [10:49:03] <gwicke> soldering it is a challenge though.. [10:49:24] <gerrit-wm> New review: Nikerabbit; "Can you split this into two patches?" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8893 [10:49:56] <gwicke> I used to experiment with attinys and atmegas on a breadboard- good fun.. [10:50:52] <gwicke> those were all in DIP form factor though [10:52:19] <Dantman> *facepalm* right, there goes the touch switch [10:53:05] <gwicke> MLF packages are around 4x4mm.. [10:55:46] <Dantman> Heh... From quadcopters to home automation...... my head is topic jumping today [10:56:28] <TimStarling> you could just use a voltage divider [10:56:43] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) wikitable alignment not working - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37114 normal; MediaWiki: Parser; (jussi.tiira) [10:57:10] <TimStarling> maybe it's not fashionable to waste 97% of the electrical power but it would be small [10:58:03] <Dantman> lol [10:58:16] <TimStarling> you could use an integrated full-wave rectifier instead of discrete diodes [10:58:41] <TimStarling> arduino has its own regulator [10:59:10] <Dantman> The Mini too? [10:59:22] <TimStarling> I'm pretty sure they all do [11:00:04] <Dantman> The mini has nice warnings like "Don't power the Arduino mini with more than 9 volts, or plug the power in backwards: you'll probably kill it." [11:00:35] <TimStarling> yes it has a regulator [11:00:51] <wikibugs> 03(mod) wikitable alignment not working - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37114 (10Jussi Tiira) [11:00:59] <TimStarling> and yes, don't plug it in backwards [11:01:05] <Dantman> lol [11:01:57] <TimStarling> what's the relay coil current? [11:03:08] <codurr> 03siebrand * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/115434> 10/trunk/extensions/OnlineStatusBar/ (7 files): [11:03:08] <codurr> Update indentation and some other coding style related thingies. [11:03:08] <codurr> No functional changes. Ping r115429. [11:03:22] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) Deployment documentation is not kept up to date - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37112 +comment (10Chad H.) [11:08:23] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Special:AggregateGroups load fails - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37113 +comment (10MWUser) [11:14:58] <gerrit-wm> New review: Tobias Gritschacher; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/WikibaseLib] (master); V: 0 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8772 [11:22:49] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Special:AggregateGroups load fails - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37113 +comment (10Niklas Laxström) [11:23:01] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Installer does not respect initial DBport declaration - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28162 +comment (10Marcin Cieślak) [11:48:02] <wikibugs> 03(mod) jobs-loop sometime can not find PHP script - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37071 +comment (10Faidon Liambotis) [11:56:32] <codurr> New code comment: Krinkle; Nearly every line, actually. \ I think the problem is that it appears you start counting the extra ta; <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/115429#c32823> [11:57:47] <codurr> New code comment: Krinkle; [[CC|.. and the closing bracket should align]] with the opening statement.; <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/115429#c32824> [12:01:34] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: GWicke; "Properly round-trip dd/dt; 178 round-trip tests passing." [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8907 [12:30:20] <wikibugs> 03(mod) making http://www.wikipedia.org/ mobile friendly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30389 +comment (10Jon) [12:30:32] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: John Erling Blad; "Squashed commit of the following:" [mediawiki/extensions/WikidataRepo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8908 [12:31:03] <gerrit-wm> New review: GWicke; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8907 [12:31:05] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: GWicke; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8907 [12:31:57] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: GWicke; "Add a small test runner with result archiving in git repo" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8909 [12:32:13] <gerrit-wm> New review: GWicke; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8909 [12:32:15] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: GWicke; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8909 [12:37:07] <gerrit-wm> New review: Jens Ohlig; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/WikidataRepo] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8908 [12:37:10] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: Jens Ohlig; [mediawiki/extensions/WikidataRepo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8908 [12:42:04] <Danwe_WMDE> When I run the phpunit tests of MW core on a Windows machine, I get like six failures. Can anyone confirm this is "normal"? I am not the only one having this problem here in the office. [12:51:31] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Enable editors to declare ref body text outside of main article prose. Also Enable editors to control footnote ordering. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/18890 +comment (10Rex Schneider) [12:59:32] <nischayn22> How should I use nested SQL queries in MW? [13:00:27] <hashar> nischayn22: I am not sure we have any support for nested queries :D [13:01:36] <liangent> if it's a select you can get sql with ->selectSQLText() then pass it to another ->select as an argument [13:02:32] <nischayn22> hmm.. or I should just hard code it ..that seems easy :P [13:03:37] * hashar feels like he is not a mw developer :( [13:03:54] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "use WikiPage::getContent rather then Article::fetchContent" [mediawiki/extensions/Contest] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8910 [13:08:38] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) Gerrit drafts should be visible to anonymous users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37115 normal; Wikimedia: Git/Gerrit; (marcin.cieslak) [13:11:25] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Gerrit drafts should be visible to anonymous users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37115 +comment (10Chad H.) [13:12:42] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Gerrit drafts should be visible to anonymous users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37115 +comment (10Roan Kattouw) [13:13:57] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Gerrit drafts should be visible to anonymous users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37115 +comment (10Chad H.) [13:14:21] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) disable recursive chmod on nfs-memc:/mnt/export - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37116 normal; Wikimedia Labs: deployment-prep (beta); (hashar) [13:15:30] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) Useless checkboxes for RevisionDeletion - You can only tick them but do nothing else - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37117 normal; MediaWiki: Revision deletion; (maurelio) [13:15:31] <wikibugs> 03(mod) RevDelete/HideUser (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/18840 (10Marco Aurelio) [13:17:36] <wikibugs> 03(mod) disable recursive chmod on nfs-memc:/mnt/export - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37116 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [13:26:51] <Symfonystage> hey ! Wondering here if anybody tried to make the mediawiki's sidebar hight "fill the page" ? I don't fin a lot information about it :'( [13:27:42] <gerrit-wm> New review: Catrope; "I haven't looked at the code yet, but based on the commit summary I can say these things right now:" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8407 [13:28:00] <saper> Symfonystage: height? did you see other, older skins? some of them have an option to have even a "fixed" sidebar [13:28:36] <Symfonystage> fixed not the goal, nice idea thought, i just want to harmonize designs [13:29:24] <Symfonystage> >I just want "nothing" under the sidebar, if you see what i mean ^^ [13:29:38] <Symfonystage> "no nothing" to be exact... Hooo crap. [13:29:58] <Symfonystage> I just want to see the sidebar color top to bottom :D [13:30:42] <Symfonystage> On a normal css I'll just to make the 'higth = 100%-Topage px' :s [13:31:10] <Symfonystage> here don't works at all, maybe because sidebar is son of something smaller [13:33:55] <wikibugs> 14(DUP) Useless checkboxes for RevisionDeletion - You can only tick them but do nothing else - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37117 +comment (10Snowolf) [13:33:56] <wikibugs> 03(mod) [Regression] Log excerpts contain bogus checkboxes for revdel instead of a (del/undel) link - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36973 +comment (10Snowolf) [13:34:48] <wikibugs> 04(REOPENED) Useless checkboxes for RevisionDeletion - You can only tick them but do nothing else - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37117 +comment (10Snowolf) [13:36:09] <gerrit-wm> New review: Nikerabbit; "@Werdna: Yes I like to format my code on my own way too. However I try to avoid that as much as poss..." [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/6726 [13:36:39] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: GWicke; "Merge "HTMLForm: throw a warning when no callback is set"" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8911 [13:37:21] <gerrit-wm> Change abandoned: GWicke; "Git-review re-init went off to submit this.." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8911 [13:37:36] <Vedmaka> Is svn commit access still active? [13:37:57] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Hook request for message on page editing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37100 (10Mark A. Hershberger) [13:38:17] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Hook request for message on page editing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37100 normal->15enhancement (10Mark A. Hershberger) [13:39:06] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Edit buttons access keys not working - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37099 +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger) [13:39:16] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: GWicke; "Add passing test for definition list with empty definition" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8912 [13:41:00] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: GWicke; "Support definition lists with empty definition" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8913 [13:41:21] <gerrit-wm> New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8912 [13:41:24] <gerrit-wm> New review: GWicke; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8913 [13:41:26] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: GWicke; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8913 [13:43:29] <wikibugs> 03(mod) [OPS] backport ffmpeg packages to Ubuntu lucid - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37043 +comment (10Faidon Liambotis) [13:44:05] <gerrit-wm> New review: Nikerabbit; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8887 [13:44:08] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: Nikerabbit; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8887 [14:04:26] <chombium> hi, I'm running MW 1.17.0 and I want to get a list of full urls of all articles. What is the easiest way to do this? [14:05:32] <codurr> New code comment: Petrb; ah, I see, from guideline this isn't clear, the example there has lines so short that it actually se; <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/115429#c32825> [14:05:33] <codurr> New code comment: Mormegil; The more interesting thing is that the “donate_interface-rt-button” message is unterminated – ; <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/102566#c32826> [14:08:13] <gerrit-wm> New review: Anomie; "I entirely agree with blocking merging until more notice can be given on the mediawiki-api-announce ..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8407 [14:11:26] <gerrit-wm> New review: Catrope; "Oh, wait, so all you're doing is changing which parameter query-continue tells you to use in which c..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8407 [14:13:07] <gerrit-wm> New review: Catrope; "Oh, no, you actually are adding accontinue and such. But I still think that's fine, because clients ..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8407 [14:17:01] <wikibugs> 03(mod) create #speciale parser function - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/23006 +comment (10Umherirrender) [14:20:36] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Renameuser: Migrate old log entries - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/23235 +comment (10Umherirrender) [14:20:46] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: GWicke; "Use '/bin/sh' instead of '/bin/bash'" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8915 [14:21:05] <gerrit-wm> New review: GWicke; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8915 [14:21:07] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: GWicke; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8915 [14:23:08] <wikibugs> 03(mod) [OPS] backport ffmpeg packages to Ubuntu lucid - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37043 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [14:24:46] <Symfonystage> hey ! Another wiki graphisme question ! What can we do to change the color of the slight blue border around the wikipedia page ? [14:26:18] <wikibugs> 14(DUP) Wrong imageinfo reported - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37021 +comment (10Umherirrender) [14:26:19] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Problem with non-ASCII characters and long requests - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36839 +comment (10Umherirrender) [14:29:11] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "adding tests for LocalItem class" [mediawiki/extensions/WikidataClient] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8916 [14:31:42] <gerrit-wm> Change abandoned: Jeroen De Dauw; "(no reason)" [mediawiki/extensions/WikidataClient] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8916 [14:36:54] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: GWicke; "Slightly improve formatting of web service; test commit message tweak" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8917 [14:37:07] <gerrit-wm> New review: GWicke; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8917 [14:37:09] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: GWicke; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8917 [14:38:01] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "fixed some docs" [mediawiki/extensions/WikibaseLib] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8918 [14:51:14] <gerrit-wm> Change abandoned: Umherirrender; "(no reason)" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7815 [14:52:07] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Umherirrender; "Block.php: replace '*' with explicit fields in selects" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8919 [14:54:06] <gerrit-wm> New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8919 [14:56:09] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Umherirrender; "Title.php: replace some '*' with explicit fields in selects" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8920 [14:58:11] <gerrit-wm> New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8920 [14:59:04] <hexmode> why does wfTempDir() ignore $wgTmpDirectory? [14:59:08] <hexmode> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Thread:Talk:MediaWiki_1.19/Thumbnails_didn%27t_work_since_Update_to_1.19/reply_%2821%29 [15:00:28] <Krenair> Anyone else having issues with Bugzilla over HTTPS? [15:01:33] <_Meow> Let me try it [15:04:31] <_Meow> Loading very very slowly. | Krenair [15:05:41] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: MaxSem; "Create dir /includes/mobile for mobile-related stuff" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8921 [15:05:52] <_Meow> Huh? Not even loading over HTTP. [15:06:06] <_Meow> Is bugzilla down? [15:07:24] <_Meow> Krenair: ^ [15:07:38] <gerrit-wm> New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8921 [15:08:39] <Krenair> _Meow, yep, seems down in normal HTTP as well [15:08:55] <_Meow> Oh... [15:09:29] <Krenair> It seems to be hosted on kaulen.wikimedia.org [15:09:32] <Krenair> <nagios-wm> PROBLEM - Apache HTTP on kaulen is CRITICAL: CRITICAL - Socket timeout after 10 seconds [15:09:50] <_Meow> Wow [15:09:52] <Krenair> I can't even get a response for a manual HTTP request [15:11:01] <aharoni> Hallo. Is there any documentation about @noflip and @embed? [15:11:07] <aharoni> They are mentioned at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/ResourceLoader/Developing_with_ResourceLoader , but without any details. [15:12:55] <RoanKattouw> aharoni: Not sure if they're documented anywhere but I can tell you what they do [15:13:15] <RoanKattouw> They might be documented in includes/libs/CSSMin.php and includes/libs/CSSJanus.php I guess [15:14:26] <aharoni> I know what they do, more or less, but it would be nice to know the precise syntax. I'll check the files. [15:25:12] <mindless999> While installing media wiki on a webserver I get the following error: Warning: require_once(/includes/Init.php): failed to open stream: No such file or directory in C:\<path>\wwwroot\includes\WebStart.php on line 94 . I have tried searching for it and tried changing / to \ but it did not work, I have checked the permissions, it is readable for the user, and it does exist [15:26:59] <Krenair> your script path is your root directory? [15:27:07] <mindless999> yes [15:28:45] <Danwe_WMDE> It seems like its not possible to create new branches for MW core, is that a general restriction? [15:29:01] <sumanah> hashar: ^^ [15:29:13] <Danwe_WMDE> Talking about Git of course ^^ [15:29:52] <hashar> Danwe_WMDE: branches in Gerrit need to be manually created [15:30:02] <hashar> you can use a topic branch though but I guess you want a real branch [15:30:12] <Amgine> mindless999: Have you read more on the installation process on Mediawiki.org? [15:30:25] <sumanah> hashar: is there some kind of reference documentation re how to request or create a real branch in Gerrit? [15:30:33] <Danwe_WMDE> hashar: It worked for MW extensions I think. [15:30:56] <hashar> sumanah: yup process is: 1) ask Chad, if not there 2) ask Hashar. [15:30:57] <hashar> ;) [15:31:03] <sumanah> hashar: :( [15:31:05] <hashar> I have honestly have no idea ;-D [15:31:21] <hashar> the only one we have created so far is the Wikidata branch [15:31:24] <sumanah> hashar: and what are your criteria? [15:31:25] <mindless999> Amgine: I could not find anything on this issue on mediawiki.org, if you want to point me in a right direction I would be thankfull [15:31:28] <hashar> the other ones are the wmf release branches [15:31:35] <hashar> Danwe_WMDE: what would be the branch for ? [15:31:52] <sumanah> I think Antoine means, what would this branch be used for? [15:32:40] <Danwe_WMDE> hashar: I just created a branch locally and submitted a few things before sending it to review, so I wanted to push the branch as well so the steps inbetween won't be lost. But I guess it would be usefull when working together on new, bigger features. [15:32:42] <Amgine> mindless999: It was more in reference to placing your mediawiki installation in your root directory. It will be more difficult for you to troubleshoot there, and to get shortened urls later. [15:33:41] <mindless999> so best is to upload it in a directory and try to install it from there? [15:33:55] <hashar> Danwe_WMDE: if you get a branch named locally 'feature' , you could do: git push origin feature:refs/for/master/feature [15:34:10] <hashar> Danwe_WMDE: that will mark the commits as being under the 'feature' topic branch [15:34:32] <hashar> Danwe_WMDE: all commits will generate a new change and all of them will be linked with each other [15:35:01] <hashar> Danwe_WMDE: then you will have to play with submitting commits from the more recent to the older and as soon as you merge the oldest one, all commits will be cleanly merged [15:35:20] <hashar> Danwe_WMDE: that is not really great though, I guess you will prefer a proper branch if the feature is more than a few commits [15:36:40] <Amgine> mindless999: Yes. It is common to place the files in the rootdir/w/, but whatever you choose *DO NOT* put them in rootdir/wiki/ [15:37:06] <mindless999> and using the dir mediawiki? [15:37:16] <Amgine> That would be fine. [15:37:41] <Danwe_WMDE> hashar: thanks, but yes, I guess a proper branch could be nice in some situations. Would also be interesting to know whether it is possible to do git review for the Wikidata branch for example... [15:38:05] <wikibugs> 03(mod) [OPS] backport ffmpeg packages to Ubuntu lucid - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37043 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [15:38:31] <RoanKattouw> Danwe_WMDE: That's definitely possible [15:39:19] <Danwe_WMDE> great [15:39:34] <hashar> Danwe_WMDE: yeah just edit the .gitreview file and change the defaultbranch= field [15:39:50] <hashar> well [15:39:51] <hashar> https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?p=mediawiki/core.git;a=blob_plain;f=.gitreview;hb=refs/heads/Wikidata [15:39:54] <hashar> it is already set ;) [15:40:03] <hashar> so you should be able to use git-review \O/ [15:41:21] <sumanah> Bugzilla was down for about an hour, but it is up now [15:41:56] <mindless999> Amgine: thanks for the help [15:42:14] <Amgine> yw [15:42:20] <Amgine> Did that work for you mindless999? [15:42:22] <codurr> 03mah * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/115435> 10/trunk/tools/bugzilla/client/ (20 files): add misc junk [15:43:06] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) associated namespace check box does not work on Special:RecentChangesLinked - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37118 normal; MediaWiki: Recent changes; (umherirrender_de.wp) [15:45:20] <Symfonystage> Can i clear the Wiki cache, if he has one ? [15:46:11] <Amgine> Symfonystage: Yes. http://url/title?action=purge [15:46:48] <wikibugs> 03(mod) [OPS] backport ffmpeg packages to Ubuntu lucid - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37043 +comment (10Faidon Liambotis) [15:48:13] <Symfonystage> thanks, the fact that clear the cache change nothing to my design problem is so fool :o [15:48:17] <mindless999> Amgine: yes it worked for me, although its was not fully clear that you should not isntall it in the root for me [15:49:13] <Amgine> mindless999: It is possible; I have seen it done. It just makes the sysadmin's life more difficult. [15:49:29] <Danwe_WMDE> Trying to do git review on my freshly squashed branch and gerrit/git is always telling me there are "outstanding commits" any idea? Already tried this two times now, pulling from master and putting my changes into a fresh branch but something seems to be wrong [15:50:03] <RoanKattouw> Danwe_WMDE: Are the outstanding commits bogus commits that aren't yours? [15:50:08] <RoanKattouw> If so, run 'git fetch gerrit' [15:50:26] <Symfonystage> I have a blue vektor that i turned into silver. The best of the page is now silver, but no matters, a little part is still default-blue. Fantastic ;o [15:50:27] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Umherirrender; "user table: replace some '*' with explicit fields in selects" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8923 [15:51:36] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Daniel Werner; "'usecheckboxes' option implemented for HTMLMultiSelectField. Multi-select field is still using multiple checkbox input elements by default. Now it is also possible to use a select element with 'multiple' attribute and a set of options instead of select fi" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8924 [15:51:56] <hashar> I will pass to Roan ;-D [15:52:02] <hashar> I am off for this week. Enjoy the weekend! [15:52:24] <Amgine> <\o @ hashar> [15:52:25] <Danwe_WMDE> Thank you RoanKattouw, it obviously worked ;) ^^ [15:52:27] <gerrit-wm> New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8923 [15:53:29] <wikibugs> 03(mod) [OPS] backport ffmpeg packages to Ubuntu lucid - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37043 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [15:54:00] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Umherirrender; "user table: replace some '*' with explicit fields in selects" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8923 [15:54:23] <gerrit-wm> New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8924 [15:56:17] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Catrope; "Add some more detailed info about the xslt param of format=xml" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7788 [15:56:22] <gerrit-wm> New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8923 [15:56:43] <gerrit-wm> New review: Catrope; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7788 [15:57:56] <Danwe_WMDE> long submit messages seem to break the gerrit web interfaces layout... [15:58:16] <gerrit-wm> New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7788 [16:00:09] <wikibugs> 03(mod) AFT "Hide" status does not track "Oversight" status - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37104 (10Mark A. Hershberger) [16:01:28] <sumanah> Danwe_WMDE: like, long commit messages? [16:01:30] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: Catrope; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7788 [16:07:10] <Danwe_WMDE> sumanah: yes, see https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/8924/ for example [16:07:39] <sumanah> Danny_B|backup: ah yes. :( [16:07:50] <sumanah> We prefer you to wrap at 72 characters [16:09:26] <sumanah> (this caused a great deal of internet debate) [16:19:09] <wikibugs> 03(mod) edit links should also be available in Special:Preferences - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36697 +design; +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [16:27:53] <Krenair> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view&direction=prev&oldid=270453 Shouldn't the 'Older revision' link go to the 9/12/1‎ revision? [16:30:06] <Lcawte> Hmm, is 80EUR enough to have in Berlin? Flying in Friday afternoon, out Monday morning... [16:31:19] <sumanah> Lcawte: http://wikitravel.org/en/Berlin [16:33:55] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Aude; "fix unit tests to work with new api format" [mediawiki/extensions/WikidataClient] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8925 [16:34:28] <Danwe_WMDE> Lcawte: enough for what? [16:36:30] <ashley> sumanah: http://wikitravel.org/en/Special:Version makes me sad :-( [16:37:33] <DarKnight201> I got this error "Exception in thread "main" java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Invalid contributor" when running mwdumper. Details: http://pastebin.com/ZcNRG3tv [16:37:56] <DarKnight201> can someone please help me fix please? [16:38:02] <sumanah> ashley: told mutante already? [16:39:01] <sumanah> hi DarKnight201 - what version of MediaWiki was this? [16:39:30] <ashley> not about that one, sumanah, no -- then again Wikitravel is an Internet Brands wiki... [16:39:32] <sumanah> apergos: ^ maybe you know about this better than I.... [16:39:42] <sumanah> ashley: go ahead & tell mutante ? [16:39:42] <saper> it's something in the dump... [16:39:48] <DarKnight201> sumanah: oh, I didn't know I have to install mediawiki before using it [16:39:58] <sumanah> DarKnight201: not sure, don't trust me! [16:40:26] <DarKnight201> sumanah: I have compressed xml file (.bz2) and want to load it into my datase using mwdumper [16:40:33] <saper> DarKnight201: no, don't think so... which version of mwdumper do you have (where from?) [16:42:39] <DarKnight201> saper: is there any command to check version? I have a .jar file without version info [16:42:52] <DarKnight201> saper: I can't recall where I downloaded it from now [16:42:53] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Make Wikimedia ShortUrl short URLs even shorter using an Apache rewrite rule - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36164 +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [16:43:43] <sumanah> YuviPanda: re bug 1450, I see Asher said that "I think we just need to get the router code added as you outlined in https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36164#c6 and we should be able to plan deployment." So would ops be able to plan deployment now? [16:43:56] <sumanah> YuviPanda: They'll be in Berlin in case you want to try to bug them in person. [16:44:01] <YuviPanda> sumanah: yup, I was about to close it after seeing that mail. [16:44:09] <YuviPanda> the RT ticket has been updated, now just need to find someone to nudge [16:44:12] <apergos> no idea, it's been a long time since I've used mwdumper, don't evenknow if it's up to date [16:45:15] <sumanah> YuviPanda: would you mind updating its status at [[mw:Review queue]]? Right now it's: Next step: deployment of the extension, setup of "a few database tables to create on target wikis" and then finally the deployment of the already-written Apache rewrite rules ([http://rt.wikimedia.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=2121 ticket]). [16:45:27] <DarKnight201> saper: I got it from here http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MWDumper [16:45:57] <saper> DarKnight201: checking [16:47:04] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) Make Wikimedia ShortUrl short URLs even shorter using an Apache rewrite rule - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36164 +comment (10Yuvi Panda) [16:47:08] <saper> DarKnight201: this dump, yes? http://dumps.wikimedia.org/enwiki/20120502/enwiki-20120502-pages-meta-history1.xml-p000000010p000002979.7z [16:47:33] <YuviPanda> sumanah: closed bug. But I don't see how the review queue changes. Still needs deployment, databse setup and deployment of apache rewrite rules [16:47:35] <DarKnight201> saper: I think mwdumper only works with 7z2 [16:47:40] <DarKnight201> not 7z [16:47:44] <sumanah> YuviPanda: ok. [16:47:52] <DarKnight201> sorry I mean bz2 [16:48:08] <DarKnight201> saper: enwiki-latest-pages-meta-history1.xml-p000000010p000002130.bz2 [16:48:14] <ashley> sumanah: PM'd him, I'm afraid I'll fill up his inbox in no time if I email every wiki running a horribly outdated version of MW to him...for there are lots of those out there, sadly :-/ [16:48:37] <sumanah> ashley: email would probably be better, dzahn@ wm . o [16:48:52] <DarKnight201> saper: http://dumps.wikimedia.org/enwiki/latest/enwiki-latest-pages-meta-history1.xml-p000000010p000002130.bz2 [16:49:06] <saper> DarKnight201: 2.8GB one? [16:49:08] <sumanah> ashley: well, the high-profile ones, as high-profile as wikitravel , might be worth following up on. And he wants reports of all of them - he can decide which ones to follow up on. [16:49:23] <DarKnight201> saper: it shows 2.1GB on the site [16:49:33] <DarKnight201> and 2.28GB on my hard disc [16:50:08] <saper> 2012-05-07 21:05:15 done All pages with complete page edit history (.bz2) [16:50:09] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Install extension:SubpageSortkey on wikibooks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22911 +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [16:50:19] <saper> http://dumps.wikimedia.org/enwiki/20120502/ [16:50:52] <DarKnight201> saper: I got it [16:51:03] <DarKnight201> saper: I try with the link you gave [16:52:18] <saper> DarKnight201: $ /usr/bin/md5sum mwdumper.jar [16:52:19] <saper> d8824596afa28485a87a604c120d58e7 mwdumper.jar [16:52:22] <saper> ? [16:52:43] <DarKnight201> saper: just wonder why there are for example 4 different history1 with different sizes? [16:53:03] <DarKnight201> saper: why do you want to get the md5sum? [16:54:36] <sumanah> hi awjr [16:54:50] <awjr> hi sumanah, about to go into a meeting [16:54:57] <sumanah> np [16:55:01] <awjr> i'll hit you up when im done [16:55:03] <saper> dato make sure I have the same version as you have [16:55:22] <DarKnight201> saper: f598759806a379d3ca6b9f8e04d2c5b8 [16:55:29] <DarKnight201> so I guess different version [16:55:49] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Amire80; "Show the priority languages in Special:Translate." [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8927 [16:55:49] <saper> DarKnight201: becase history1 is span across different files? [16:56:59] <DarKnight201> saper: so to have a complete view I will have to load all 4 different files into my db, right? [16:57:20] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: MarkTraceur; "(bug 37109) Fix padding-right issue caused by strange timing" [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8928 [16:57:37] <DarKnight201> saper: usually with compressed files, you have to merge the files before you can work with them, don't you? [16:57:57] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Sometimes, Learn > Upload .. headings are incorrectly centered - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37109 +patch +patch-need-review; +comment (10Mark Holmquist) [16:58:09] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: GWicke; "Basic rt support for indent pre variant" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8929 [16:58:13] <DarKnight201> saper: so it's confusing for me because I just download 1 .bz2 file and it mwdumper still runs on it [16:58:48] <saper> DarKnight201: this might be ok, a file should be self-containing [16:59:11] <sumanah> hi bsitu [16:59:11] <DarKnight201> saper: btw, I got mwdumper.jar from here: http://code.google.com/p/wikitrust/downloads/list [16:59:28] <bsitu> hi sumanah [16:59:40] <saper> DarKnight201: you have this? f598759806a379d3ca6b9f8e04d2c5b8 dumps.wikimedia.org/tools/mwdumper.jar [16:59:59] <DarKnight201> saper: where did you get yours? [17:00:07] <DarKnight201> yes [17:00:16] <saper> Last-Modified: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 02:04:16 GMT [17:00:18] <sumanah> bsitu: How is your 20% work going? [17:00:56] <bsitu> it's going well [17:01:23] <saper> well [17:01:43] <saper> DarKnight201: it's linked on [[MWDumper]] "An old JAR at download.wikimedia.org doesn't work." [17:01:48] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Install Extension:Transliterator on fr, pl and en.wiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/20246 +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [17:02:05] <saper> and download.wikimedia.org points to it :( [17:02:08] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Incognito/Private mode does not display recent feedback posts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37102 +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger) [17:02:20] <bsitu> I will probably work on this today: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/3328/ [17:02:29] <wikibugs> 03(mod) AFT Oversight/Hide status not persistent - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37103 (10Mark A. Hershberger) [17:02:37] <DarKnight201> saper: It does, but I didn't try that one :( [17:02:59] <saper> well that's the same as yours, f598759806a379d3ca6b9f8e04d2c5b8 [17:03:13] <DarKnight201> saper: it's from Feb-01-2006 [17:03:16] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Patchwork message - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37098 (10Mark A. Hershberger) [17:03:17] <DarKnight201> saper: really [17:03:20] <sumanah> bsitu: did you already finish that patch you were working on last week? [17:03:44] <saper> DarKnight201: yes, MWDumper page says "it does not work" [17:04:27] <bsitu> sumanah: I am going to a daily scrum now, be right back [17:04:31] <sumanah> ok [17:04:33] <DarKnight201> saper: do you know which one I can use now? [17:04:56] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8032 [17:06:03] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Daniel Werner; "Implemented multi language selector into user preferences. For displaying this nicely, this depends on https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8923 being merged into the Wikidata core branch." [mediawiki/extensions/WikidataRepo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8930 [17:07:08] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Sometimes, Learn > Upload .. headings are incorrectly centered - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37109 +comment (10Erik Moeller) [17:08:01] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Amire80; "Show the priority languages in Special:Translate." [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8927 [17:08:14] <DarKnight201> saper: it's seems like mwdumper is not supported any more, is it? [17:08:32] <DarKnight201> saper: the latest version I found is in Sep 2008 [17:08:57] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Email notification mistakes log action for new page creation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/14901 +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [17:09:13] <wikibugs> 03(mod) After removing custom prefix from the interwiki table the old links still points to the target wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31992 +comment (10Robin Pepermans (SPQRobin)) [17:09:54] <saper> DarKnight201: I try to compile [17:10:17] <gerrit-wm> New review: Aaron Schulz; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8920 [17:10:20] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8920 [17:13:59] <bsitu> Hi sumanah [17:14:07] <gerrit-wm> New review: Aaron Schulz; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8923 [17:14:10] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8923 [17:14:44] <sumanah> bsitu: so, https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14901 . hexmode, is that "Email notification mistakes log action for new page creation" bug still bothering a lot of people? [17:16:27] <sumanah> hi Friday 20% folks [17:16:56] <sumanah> awjr: still on HTMLForms, right? [17:17:30] <sumanah> awjr: we are building up a backlog of unreviewed contributions in Gerrit from volunteer contributors, so any code review time you can put in is welcome [17:17:53] <awjr> sumanah: i think im done with the HTMLForm stuff, waiting to get this reviewed and merged: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/6636/ [17:18:04] <awjr> sumanah: i can help with code review this afternoon [17:19:04] <sumanah> awjr: that would help, thanks .... useful links: [17:19:06] <sumanah> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_engineering_20%25_policy#Status [17:19:07] <DarKnight201> saper: I got the source from here http://svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki/trunk/mwdumper/, but not sure how to build it [17:19:14] <DarKnight201> saper: do you have any idea? [17:19:43] <gerrit-wm> New review: GWicke; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8929 [17:19:47] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: GWicke; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8929 [17:20:59] <sumanah> aharoni: gwicke - hi, can we talk about 20% time? [17:22:58] <sumanah> Reedy: ^ [17:23:09] <sumanah> Reedy: I figure you are pretty hands-full with Wikidata [17:24:07] <Katie_WMDE> sumanah: we're doing code review [17:24:20] <sumanah> Katie_WMDE: at this very moment? oh, sorry for interrupting [17:24:22] <Katie_WMDE> getting used to gerrit still, though [17:24:34] <awjr> sumanah: do you have a link for specific things that need review, or should i just go through general backlog in gerrit? [17:24:36] <sumanah> Katie_WMDE: as are most of us [17:24:44] <Katie_WMDE> sumanah: might do a little before i go home [17:25:04] <gwicke> sumanah: don't have much time currently, as we are preparing for the release in June [17:25:07] <sumanah> Katie_WMDE: you could also do patch review in Bugzilla, that might be easier [17:25:16] <Katie_WMDE> sumanah: ok [17:25:43] <sumanah> awjr: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#q,status:open,n,z (general backlog) would be ok, but let me find a few specific changesets for you [17:26:07] <sumanah> awjr: backlogged components such as UploadWizard and ProofreadPage need the most attention, not sure whether you would like to take on either of those. [17:26:56] <aharoni> hi sumanah [17:26:56] <sumanah> gwicke: I understand you have a deadline - what is the date of it? [17:27:19] <sumanah> hi aharoni! so I know you have some code review on your plate, including patch review from BZ [17:27:35] <aharoni> yep. [17:27:52] <gwicke> sumanah: sometime in June [17:28:03] <sumanah> Katie_WMDE: aharoni: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_engineering_20%25_policy#Status tells you what's highest-priority for right now and links to useful queries. You might find it easier to do that patch review from BZ because that way you don't have to do as much gerriting [17:28:22] <Katie_WMDE> sumanah: thanks [17:28:29] <YuviPanda> sumanah: do OPs people have 20% time too? :D I can then know who to systematically pester with that RT [17:28:53] <sumanah> YuviPanda: that is currently an active discussion that I am not really involved in; you can ask CT [17:29:08] <YuviPanda> sumanah: okay, thanks :) [17:29:17] <aharoni> gerritting is gradually becoming less of a problem. As always, the main problem is picking things that I can understand and review in reasonable time. [17:29:30] <Katie_WMDE> +1 aharoni (same for me) [17:30:01] <Katie_WMDE> one issue is the https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Gerrit page is really short and sad :( [17:30:17] <sumanah> Katie_WMDE: you've also seen the Git Workflow page, right? [17:30:17] <Katie_WMDE> links not too useful either [17:30:18] <sumanah> !git [17:30:19] <wm-bot> MediaWiki development is using git, a distributed source control manager, starting on March 21st, 2012; details: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git_happens Instructions for using it: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Workflow To get an account: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Labsconsole_accounts [17:30:25] <Katie_WMDE> sumanah: yes but [17:30:38] <Katie_WMDE> some documentation of the search parameters and just how to find stuff would be nice [17:30:42] <sumanah> Katie_WMDE: please, please, please add to the talk page of https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Tutorial to talk about what you want [17:30:48] <Katie_WMDE> ok [17:31:06] <sumanah> Katie_WMDE: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/Documentation/user-search.html [17:31:13] <Katie_WMDE> ok [17:31:21] <sumanah> Katie_WMDE: did you click "documentation" within the Gerrit interface? [17:31:41] <sumanah> "Index, Searching, Uploading, Access Controls" [17:32:23] <Katie_WMDE> sumanah: missed the searching link [17:32:23] <sumanah> awjr: any MobileFrontend pull requests in GitHub awaiting merge or review? [17:32:36] <sumanah> Katie_WMDE: ok, so, please please spread the word about that to your teammates! [17:32:49] <Katie_WMDE> ok [17:32:49] <sumanah> Lydia_WMDE: Daniel_WMDE JeroenDeDauw ^^^ https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/Documentation/user-search.html [17:33:07] <awjr> sumanah: not really - we're pretty good about keeping our queue low [17:33:13] <sumanah> Great! [17:33:24] <sumanah> awjr: ok, just wanted to double-check that first since of course you're an expert in that! [17:33:24] <aharoni> sumanah: i'm still mostly a git newbie, but I think that I can add a few things to Git/Tutorial itself, not just the talk page. [17:33:51] <sumanah> aharoni: if you do, maybe add them in a different section..... right now that Tutorial is trying to keep down to what can be covered in an hour, live. [17:33:56] <sumanah> aharoni: sound reasonable/ [17:33:57] <sumanah> ? [17:34:11] <sumanah> I should document that, if Danielle & Patrick haven't [17:34:20] <aharoni> sumanah: i can improve the current sections, too. [17:35:07] <sumanah> aharoni: got it! and if your updates are not what Patrick and Danielle would find most useful, they might fork, rearrange, etc [17:36:06] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: IAlex; "Check validity of fetched titles and show a descriptive messages when an invalid title is encountered." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8931 [17:36:14] <sumanah> awjr: I'm going to add you as a reviewer to a few patchsets [17:36:34] <awjr> sumanah: sounds good. im taking care of some mobile-related stuff right now but i'll start reviewing probably around lunch time [17:36:58] <sumanah> awjr: ok. If I added you to stuff you're unsuited for, please feel free to remove yourself as a reviewer and I won't take it the wrong way :) [17:37:07] <awjr> word [17:38:06] <gerrit-wm> New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8931 [17:42:25] <sumanah> bsitu: please do follow up on that patch if you can, bug 14901 [17:42:45] <Lcawte> Danwe_WMDE: Food, TXL -> Hostel -> Venue type travel... [17:44:17] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Install extension:SubpageSortkey on wikibooks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22911 +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [17:44:48] <varnent> ack - just missed DanR - ah well [17:45:30] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Initial duplicate check is broken in Firefox, Chrome (not Opera) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37108 +comment (10Mark Holmquist) [17:46:08] <Danwe_WMDE> Lcawte: Guess that's enough if you're not planning on buying some fancy stuff. What hostel are you staying at? [17:46:09] <bsitu> sumanah: yes, I will see what I can do to make it extensible [17:46:19] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Article Feedback Page - Metrics Stage 4 Test: Survey button, bucketing and/or click tracking - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36650 +comment (10Fabrice Florin) [17:46:48] <aharoni> sumanah: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Git/Tutorial#Essential_topics_for_a_1-hour_tutorial [17:47:13] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Enable Extension:ShortUrl on or.wikipedia, ta.wikipedia... - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/1450 +ops (10Rob Lanphier) [17:47:20] <Lcawte> Danwe_WMDE: As far as I'm aware, the one WMF paid for non-staff people are staying at... aletto Kudamm Hotel & Hostel Hardenbergstrasse 21, 10623 Berlin, Germany [17:49:13] <gerrit-wm> New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/WikidataRepo] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8930 [17:49:15] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/WikidataRepo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8930 [17:49:21] <gerrit-wm> New review: Daniel Werner; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/WikibaseLib] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8918 [17:49:23] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: Daniel Werner; [mediawiki/extensions/WikibaseLib] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8918 [17:51:33] <Danwe_WMDE> Lcawte: I see, that's close to the WMDE office, been staying there for one night as well. [17:52:05] <Danwe_WMDE> also just around the corner for the hackaton [17:54:38] <Lcawte> Danwe_WMDE: Really? Do you mean that literally, I've just google map'd it and it looks slightly further away :/ [17:55:28] <Danwe_WMDE> Lcawte: Its very close to the office for sure and in case I am not wrong about the hackaton location, it's around the corner, yes [17:55:44] <saper> DarKnight201: sorry, I was way. Use "ant" [17:55:50] <Lcawte> "Station-berlin Luckenwalder Straße 4, D-10963" Berlin is what I've seen... [17:55:53] <saper> DarKnight201: s,way,away, [17:56:00] <Danwe_WMDE> Lcawte: Oops, sorry... Its the KUDAMM one [17:56:33] <codurr> 03krinkle * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/115436> 10/trunk/extensions/OnlineStatusBar/ (4 files): [17:56:33] <codurr> whitespace clean up [17:56:33] <codurr> - Follows-up: [17:56:34] <codurr> * r115434 [17:56:35] <codurr> * r115433 [17:57:20] <Danwe_WMDE> Lcawte: they have another one, also Aleto, that's around the corner: http://www.aletto.de/ They have like three hostels in Berlin [17:57:42] <Danwe_WMDE> So the Kreuzberg one would be almost at the office [18:01:01] <saper> DarKnight201: or better yet, install Maven [18:04:03] <Krenair> <Krenair> preilly, what are the licenses for all these images you're uploading? [18:05:27] <DarKnight201> saper: thanks. So you cannot use make? [18:06:01] <saper> "ant" is a make-like utility. "maven" is much more (maven will download dependencies needed to compile it) [18:07:43] <DarKnight201> saper: thanks a lot [18:07:57] <saper> I got this built MD5 (/.amd_mnt/radziecki/a/icybox/tmp/mwdumper/build/mwdumper-1.16.jar) = 290b71d12f0b636fd72d5f4b12d46e98 [18:09:36] <DarKnight201> saper: thanks. I'll let you know if it works later tonight when I can build it and try again [18:09:41] <DarKnight201> saper: I have to go out right now [18:10:06] <DarKnight201> saper: thanks a lot for your help [18:10:21] <gamemaster> hi [18:10:22] <saper> DarKnight201: http://tools.wikimedia.pl/~saper/mwdumper-1.16.jar [18:10:30] <saper> DarKnight201: have fun [18:10:30] <sumanah> hi gamemaster [18:10:41] <sumanah> thanks for your help, saper! [18:10:53] <DarKnight201> saper: thanks for the link [18:10:55] <saper> sumanah: will you be around at 4:30pm ? [18:11:01] <DarKnight201> saper: hope it works [18:11:02] <gamemaster> are u the member of wiki media [18:11:04] <saper> DarKnight201: not sure if it works at all [18:11:44] <sumanah> saper: 4:30 pm New York time? I'll be around but I was thinking I might be in a meeting, a walkthrough of one of the tutorials for the Berlin hackathon. [18:12:01] <sumanah> gamemaster: this is the channel to discuss MediaWiki, the software platform for Wikimedia projects. [18:13:06] <DarKnight201> saper: btw, I assume the page-meta-history dump contains all sort of data including the number of reverts, the time a comment is submitted, etc. right? [18:13:35] <gamemaster> so how can we do our part in software projects [18:15:25] <sumanah> !howto | gamemaster [18:15:25] <wm-bot> gamemaster : https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_become_a_MediaWiki_hacker [18:15:34] <Symfonystage> If any of you tried to play with the design made by vectors, no one had a little problem for a few ones that don't change even if you modified all the images in /vectors/images ? :o [18:17:39] <saper> sumanah: yes, that's the one... I've heard it's 4.30pm SF time [18:17:48] <sumanah> saper: there are SEVERAL walkthroughs today! [18:17:52] <gerrit-wm> New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/WikidataClient] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8925 [18:17:54] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/WikidataClient] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8925 [18:17:59] <gerrit-wm> New review: Daniel Werner; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/WikidataRepo] (master); V: 0 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8773 [18:18:04] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: IAlex; "Check validity of fetched titles and show a descriptive messages when an invalid title is encountered." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8931 [18:18:05] <gamemaster> hey wm-bot is this an hacking platform [18:18:14] <saper> sumanah: oh sorry - I mean git/gerrit tutorial 4 berlin [18:18:21] <gerrit-wm> New review: Daniel Werner; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/WikidataRepo] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8773 [18:18:23] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: Daniel Werner; [mediawiki/extensions/WikidataRepo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8773 [18:18:35] <sumanah> saper: I hope to listen in on the Git tutorial rehearsal, yes! [18:18:55] <sumanah> I'm in New York, so it's going to be 7:30 on a Friday night, but it's worth it for me to help make sure it's the best it can be [18:20:05] <gerrit-wm> New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8931 [18:21:29] <gamemaster> so if i lean php programming i can do a part in wiki media [18:21:52] <saper> sumanah: it's sat 1:30 am Sat morning :) thanks! [18:22:58] <gerrit-wm> New review: Daniel Werner; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/WikibaseLib] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8772 [18:23:00] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: Daniel Werner; [mediawiki/extensions/WikibaseLib] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8772 [18:23:36] <sumanah> saper: I bow and doff my hat to you :) [18:25:08] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Sometimes, Learn > Upload .. headings are incorrectly centered - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37109 +comment (10Mark Holmquist) [18:25:45] <aude> saper: what's at 1:30 am on saturday? [18:26:03] * aude curious [18:26:44] <Lcawte> ugh, need to find travel adapter tomorrow while I'm shopping :/ [18:29:30] <Krinkle> !bs isValidBuiltInCode [18:29:30] <wm-bot> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=isValidBuiltInCode [18:31:14] <saper> aude: it's 4:30pm san francisco time :( [18:31:37] <aude> saper: of course [18:36:21] <sumanah> Hi Deebki [18:47:12] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Adding tests to wikibase localitem test class" [mediawiki/extensions/WikidataClient] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8934 [18:51:24] <strang> Hello, what's the preferred way of transforming a template invocation into a Javascript object? [18:51:52] <strang> I have a wikitext that invokes a template, and want to get the parameter-value couples [18:52:08] <strang> and I'm working on a user script [18:52:37] <rubyruy> is there a way (even if involving extentions) to get a list of pages that redirect to the current page as an include? [18:52:48] <rubyruy> Basically i'd like to list the number of aliases for certain pages on the page itself [18:54:09] <rubyruy> alternatively, is there maybe a way to install a "404 handler" type template that could dynamically generate the redirect if possible (e.g. from an SMW query), and if not simply have it call the regular 404 handler (search results) [18:55:16] <Krenair> safesubst is really difficult to understand. [18:57:13] <Krinkle> strang: Can you provide a little more context? [19:01:53] <strang> Krinkle, for example: from wikitext (JS string) "{{Recipe|yield=2|ingredient1=eggs|ingredient2=water}}" ===> to JS object { 'yield' : '2', 'ingredient1' : 'eggs', 'ingredient2' : 'water' } [19:03:06] <saper> preilly: sorry for chiming in, didn't check history before... go ahead with your changes [19:03:59] <Krinkle> strang: What do you have so far? I'm not sure what you're blocked on here. [19:04:23] <strang> rubyruy, on commons.wikimedia.org they transclude [[Template:Did you mean]] inside [[Mediawiki:Noarticletext]], although maybe it's not what you're looking for [19:05:19] <strang> krinkle: I've listed a few steps to parse the template, but it's becoming increasingly complex as I take into consideration wikilinks and nested templates [19:05:34] <strang> so I was wondering if there's a different way [19:05:42] * Krinkle recalls creating that on commons [19:05:53] <Krinkle> Can you show something? [19:06:00] <Krinkle> I think you started wrong [19:06:03] <gerrit-wm> New review: Aaron Schulz; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8912 [19:06:05] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8912 [19:06:06] <Krinkle> wikilinks shouldn't be relevant [19:07:07] <strang> hmm, here are the steps [19:07:26] <strang> 1. look for {{\s*(Template:)?\s* [19:07:36] <Krinkle> strang: hold on [19:08:00] <strang> 2. look for template name, take in consideration underscore-space duality [19:08:06] <Krinkle> strang: Are you fetching the raw wikitext from a page and then using it? And if so, is that needed, or part of your attempted solution to get this? [19:08:09] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Kaldari; "Adding a prefs header for options related to User Pages Right now this is mostly for WikiLove, which needs to be moved out of the Labs header" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8935 [19:08:18] <Krinkle> You could get it through HTML [19:08:26] <strang> krinkle, I'm writing a form to edit a recipe [19:08:30] <Krinkle> parsing wikitext is NOT recommended, don't even try. [19:08:33] <strang> and have a template which generates the recipe [19:08:57] <strang> 3. until you meet }} [19:09:12] <strang> 3.1 look for | = }} [19:09:25] <strang> and grab everything meanwhile [19:09:36] <Krinkle> I understand. [19:09:47] <strang> 3.2 if you got |, then place grabbed content into next i-th anonymous parameter and i++ [19:10:11] <gerrit-wm> New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8935 [19:10:14] <Krinkle> I'm familiar with the type of script, don't bother continuing the list :) [19:10:17] <Krinkle> Can you link to the script? [19:10:19] <strang> 3.3 if you got =, then place grabbed content into a parameter name, then grab everything until next | and place into param value [19:10:23] <strang> oh ok [19:12:14] <Nikerabbit> hurr [19:12:14] <codurr> durr [19:13:15] <strang> hmm, maybe there's an API which takes the wikitext and returns in JSON format? but I can't find such an api in the manual [19:13:54] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Article Feedback - Final Feedback Form (Option 6) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36647 summary (10Fabrice Florin) [19:15:10] <xvilka> hi! i've updated wiki on git revision recently, and now have broken templates, e.g. http://wiki.kolibrios.org/wiki/Template:Note [19:15:34] <xvilka> whats wrong with old syntax, and where i can read about syntax changes/tips/etc? [19:15:49] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Kaldari; "WikiLove is no longer experimental, updating preferences" [mediawiki/extensions/WikiLove] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8936 [19:17:54] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Tpt; "(bug 28102) Add order by option in IndexPages special page." [mediawiki/extensions/ProofreadPage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/6808 [19:18:09] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Kaldari; "WikiLove is no longer experimental, updating preferences" [mediawiki/extensions/WikiLove] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8936 [19:18:25] <strang> xvilka, with the update you probably lost the extension that you have installed previously [19:18:56] <strang> in particular, without Extension:ParserFunctions the {{#if: syntax won't work [19:19:40] <xvilka> ah, thx! [19:20:08] <strang> BTW you can see the list of extensions at [[Special:Version]] [19:20:17] <xvilka> yes, i know. [19:20:25] <xvilka> thx for the point [19:20:28] <strang> ;) [19:21:13] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Kaldari; "Adding a prefs header for options related to User Pages" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8935 [19:23:03] <xvilka> hm, why on wiki "parserfunctions was bundled with mediawiki 1.18 and above" while there is no any extension? [19:23:17] <gerrit-wm> New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8935 [19:26:17] <liangent> Krinkle: around? [19:27:42] <strang> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Version_lifecycle [19:27:43] <strang> xvilka: 1.20 is currently an alpha (still under development) [19:28:44] <xvilka> strang: yep, i know about alpha/beta/etc. Just loving bleeding edge :) Have gentoo with custom ebuilds,patched lighttpd/etc :) [19:29:25] <Krinkle> liangent: Yes, but I'm a little pre-occupied. [19:29:55] <xvilka> and mediawiki quite stable even while in development stage (compared with other programs) [19:35:07] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Adding tests to wikibase localitem test class" [mediawiki/extensions/WikidataClient] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8934 [19:36:49] <Harmageddon> Hi! I'm trying to read out the contents of an article in a wiki with an external php script. I'm calling the url with &action=raw&ctype=text/x-wiki§ion=1 and the function file_get_contents and this works. The problem now is the encoding. The article contains some special characters like ü or ŏ. I'm using the php header function with charset utf-8 and the utf8_decode function, and this... [19:36:51] <Harmageddon> ...works for ä, ö and ü, but not for chars like ŏ. Does anybody know a solution for this? [19:38:51] <xvilka> hm. Have huge list of languages at side bar. Need to choose only 3-4. Which option i need to set? [19:39:03] <Harmageddon> My code looks like this: http://dpaste.com/752213/ [19:39:46] <Harmageddon> xvilka: Edit your article and delete the interwiki links you don't need. [19:40:32] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: MarkTraceur; "(bug 37108) Add the current time to the filename in FormData" [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8937 [19:42:18] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Initial duplicate check is broken in Firefox, Chrome (not Opera) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37108 +comment (10Mark Holmquist) [19:42:27] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Initial duplicate check is broken in Firefox, Chrome (not Opera) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37108 +patch +patch-need-review (10Mark Holmquist) [19:43:34] <xvilka> chineze language code == "zh" ? right? [19:43:41] <xvilka> or "cn"? [19:44:01] <RoanKattouw> zh [19:44:09] <xvilka> thx [19:46:35] <gerrit-wm> New review: Aude; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/WikidataClient] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8934 [19:46:37] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: Aude; [mediawiki/extensions/WikidataClient] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8934 [19:48:25] <Danwe_WMDE> Wouldn't it make sense for the Parser to implement the IContextSource thingy? [19:54:22] <strang> Krinkle-away, maybe I got it!!! [19:54:30] <strang> I need to [19:54:54] <strang> 1. get the text of the whole template (which is easy) [19:54:54] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: L10n-bot; "Localisation updates from http://translatewiki.net." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8938 [19:55:20] <strang> 2. replace name of invoked template with a different tmpl used only for this purpose [19:55:39] <strang> which generates JSON output (which is incomprehensible to mediawiki anyway) [19:56:00] <strang> 3. expand the new invocation as in [[API:Parsing_wikitext#expandtemplates]] [19:56:26] <strang> the result is a string which can then be treated as JSON by the Javascript [19:56:30] <strang> I0m so happy now =D [19:56:55] <gerrit-wm> New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8938 [19:57:21] <strang> for example: {{Recipe|ingredient1=stuff|ingr2=stuff2}} ===> {{Recipe2|ingredient1=stuff|ingr2=stuff2}} [19:57:25] <strang> where Recipe2 returns [19:57:53] <strang> 'ingredient1' : '{{{ingredient1|}}}, 'ingr2' : '{{{ingr2}}}' [19:58:24] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: preilly; "Add some more detailed info about the xslt param of format=xml" [test/mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8939 [19:59:18] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Images permanently disappear when renaming files on Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36440 +comment (10Aaron Schulz) [20:00:00] <strang> then JS retrieves it via API and then treats it trhough eval() or some other thing I will find [20:03:55] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Error in Number of Articles on mk.wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37056 +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger) [20:04:30] <wikibugs> 03(WONTFIX) missing "query"-element when no titles specified - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31901 +comment (10Max Semenik) [20:04:51] <DanielRenfro> I'm thinking about adding some documentation about media-type-specific stylesheets in the ResourceLoader...is http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/ResourceLoader/Migration_guide_for_extension_developers#Registering_a_module the right place? [20:07:16] <DanielRenfro> Just wanted some feedback from Roan, Krinkle, or Trevor [20:07:33] * varnent waves at DanielRenfro [20:08:16] * DanielRenfro waves back! [20:08:32] <aude> preilly: good work on the git tutorial [20:08:48] <preilly> aude: thanks [20:09:15] <aude> screenshots help :) [20:09:39] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Adding interfaces for ORM row and table classes so these can be used for type hinting in a way that does not prevent doing stuff such as the decorator pattern. Also made some minor fixes in the docs" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8940 [20:11:36] <gerrit-wm> New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8940 [20:11:39] <varnent> DanielRenfro: I talked with a couple folks about ways to promote devo engagement - sumanah brought up some good existing ones like the blog and tech section of signpost - I was pondering if helping direct folks there is helpful [20:13:06] <DanielRenfro> varnent: I think it would be great help! I didn't even know about the signpost until now [20:15:14] <DanielRenfro> varnent: You suggested a newsletter -- I think that's a good idea too. Like wikitech-l, but unidirectional to the fringe developers. [20:15:22] <varnent> DanielRenfro: so perhaps a section on the Developer Hub and communications page on mw.org that helps draw attn to those sections [20:15:44] <DanielRenfro> varnent: definitely. It would help me at least! [20:15:45] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: L10n-bot; "Localisation updates from http://translatewiki.net." [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8941 [20:15:54] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: L10n-bot; "Localisation updates from http://translatewiki.net." [mediawiki/extensions/ApiSandbox] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8942 [20:16:01] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) Bugzilla testando - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37119 blocker; Wikimedia Mobile: Content; (lourenco.suarez) [20:16:04] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: L10n-bot; "Localisation updates from http://translatewiki.net." [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedback] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8943 [20:16:13] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: L10n-bot; "Localisation updates from http://translatewiki.net." [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8944 [20:16:22] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: L10n-bot; "Localisation updates from http://translatewiki.net." [mediawiki/extensions/Babel] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8945 [20:16:30] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: L10n-bot; "Localisation updates from http://translatewiki.net." [mediawiki/extensions/CategoryTree] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8946 [20:16:41] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: L10n-bot; "Localisation updates from http://translatewiki.net." [mediawiki/extensions/CentralAuth] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8947 [20:16:49] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: L10n-bot; "Localisation updates from http://translatewiki.net." [mediawiki/extensions/CheckUser] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8948 [20:16:58] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: L10n-bot; "Localisation updates from http://translatewiki.net." [mediawiki/extensions/Cite] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8949 [20:17:00] <varnent> DanielRenfro: I wasn't thinking of the SignPost section originally - but I'm wondering if a mailing list announcing just that would help for folks not interested in the bidirectional mailing lists [20:17:07] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: L10n-bot; "Localisation updates from http://translatewiki.net." [mediawiki/extensions/CodeReview] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8950 [20:17:16] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: L10n-bot; "Localisation updates from http://translatewiki.net." [mediawiki/extensions/Collection] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8951 [20:17:27] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: L10n-bot; "Localisation updates from http://translatewiki.net." [mediawiki/extensions/ContributionReporting] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8952 [20:17:37] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: L10n-bot; "Localisation updates from http://translatewiki.net." [mediawiki/extensions/DonationInterface] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8953 [20:17:47] <varnent> DanielRenfro: even as I type that it seems like we'd have that..hmm [20:17:47] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: L10n-bot; "Localisation updates from http://translatewiki.net." [mediawiki/extensions/EducationProgram] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8954 [20:17:56] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: L10n-bot; "Localisation updates from http://translatewiki.net." [mediawiki/extensions/ExtensionDistributor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8955 [20:18:00] <sumanah> mediawiki-announce is for new MediaWiki versions, varnent & DanielRenfro [20:18:04] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: L10n-bot; "Localisation updates from http://translatewiki.net." [mediawiki/extensions/FlaggedRevs] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8956 [20:18:14] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: L10n-bot; "Localisation updates from http://translatewiki.net." [mediawiki/extensions/Math] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8957 [20:18:24] <varnent> sumanah: what do you think about using it for SignPost promo as well? [20:18:32] <sumanah> varnent: No. [20:18:33] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: L10n-bot; "Localisation updates from http://translatewiki.net." [mediawiki/extensions/Nuke] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8959 [20:18:41] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: L10n-bot; "Localisation updates from http://translatewiki.net." [mediawiki/extensions/OggHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8960 [20:18:43] <sumanah> varnent: We have promised those recipients that it will be EXTREMELY LOW-TRAFFIC. [20:18:51] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: L10n-bot; "Localisation updates from http://translatewiki.net." [mediawiki/extensions/ProofreadPage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8961 [20:18:59] <saper> preilly: instead to mess with tutorial I started collecting notes here https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Saper/Random_notes#Problems [20:18:59] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: L10n-bot; "Localisation updates from http://translatewiki.net." [mediawiki/extensions/Renameuser] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8962 [20:19:08] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: L10n-bot; "Localisation updates from http://translatewiki.net." [mediawiki/extensions/ShortUrl] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8963 [20:19:17] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: L10n-bot; "Localisation updates from http://translatewiki.net." [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8964 [20:19:21] <sumanah> Restarting, back in a bit. saper, please put those notes in the talk page of the tutorial!! [20:19:28] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: L10n-bot; "Localisation updates from http://translatewiki.net." [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8965 [20:19:31] <DanielRenfro> sumanah: varnent: I think the announce list is for a different thing -- announcements. I was thinking about a montly/weekly list of announcements specific to developers [20:19:36] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: L10n-bot; "Localisation updates from http://translatewiki.net." [mediawiki/extensions/TranslationNotifications] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8966 [20:19:39] <sumanah> saper: to at least gather them in one place where Deebki and preilly and I can easily see them [20:19:39] <varnent> sumanah: what about the now defunct wikizine mailing lists? something like that for announcing SignPost so folks not on the active mailing lists can have a low-traffic method [20:19:45] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: L10n-bot; "Localisation updates from http://translatewiki.net." [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8967 [20:19:52] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: L10n-bot; "Localisation updates from http://translatewiki.net." [mediawiki/extensions/WikiEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8968 [20:20:01] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: L10n-bot; "Localisation updates from http://translatewiki.net." [mediawiki/extensions/WikiLove] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8969 [20:20:10] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: L10n-bot; "Localisation updates from http://translatewiki.net." [mediawiki/extensions/WikidataRepo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8970 [20:20:21] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: L10n-bot; "Localisation updates from http://translatewiki.net." [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaIncubator] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8971 [20:20:31] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: L10n-bot; "Localisation updates from http://translatewiki.net." [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaMessages] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8972 [20:20:39] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: L10n-bot; "Localisation updates from http://translatewiki.net." [mediawiki/extensions/ZeroRatedMobileAccess] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8973 [20:21:08] <varnent> DanielRenfro: so like developer-announce with moderator only messages about tech reports, tech blog posts (maybe?) and the tech section of SignPost? [20:22:07] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Generating thumbnails does not work when there is no access to /tmp - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36475 -patch-need-review +patch-reviewed; +comment (10Max Semenik) [20:22:09] <DanielRenfro> varnent: exactly. it could link to longer articles. then people could go read what they were interested in [20:22:28] <DanielRenfro> varnent: I'm just trying to think about more visibility in the MW organization [20:22:38] <varnent> DanielRenfro: am I correct that you're not on the active MW lists? [20:22:48] <codurr> 03raymond * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/115437> 10/trunk/extensions/ (11 files in 11 dirs): Localisation updates from http://translatewiki.net. [20:23:06] <DanielRenfro> varnent: I try to keep up with wikitech-l and mediawiki-l, but rarely post [20:23:51] <varnent> DanielRenfro: some of these items are already posted there and to the general WM list - do you think it'd be more helpful to direct ppl to all the various existing lists? [20:25:00] <DanielRenfro> varnent: maybe I should just read more :). mediawiki-l seems pretty busy, though...things might be buried [20:25:29] <varnent> DanielRenfro: hmmm [20:26:32] <varnent> : DanielRenfro: that's an interesting notion - let's run it past sumanah when she re-enters as I suspect her team was wind up being seen as responsible for it eventually [20:26:51] <varnent> *will wind up [20:27:39] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Edit buttons access keys not working - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37099 +comment (10Subfader) [20:28:55] <gerrit-wm> New review: Bsitu; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8880 [20:28:57] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: Bsitu; [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8880 [20:29:02] <wikibugs> 03(WONTFIX) Hook request for message on page editing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37100 +comment (10Subfader) [20:29:10] <DanielRenfro> varnent: I'm in. [20:32:03] <wikibugs> 03(mod) #mw-content-text is incorrectly placed on preview - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36476 +comment (10AlexSm) [20:34:47] <varnent> DanielRenfro: btw - we now have #WikiQueer operational for those side project conversations [20:34:58] <aton`> hi [20:35:26] <aton`> i was trying to upgrad from mediawiki 1.11.2 to 1.19.0 using the web based upgrade tool [20:36:02] <DanielRenfro> varnent: sweet. I'm not too IRC saavy....let me figure out how to connect :/ [20:36:07] <aton`> i am getting a 500 internal server error, when upgrading the database [20:36:18] <aton`> is this a known problem? [20:36:31] <varnent> aton: it's most likely timing out - might have better luck running from command line if you have access [20:37:52] <aton`> varnent: its not timing out, it returns 500 after 10 seconds [20:38:02] <aton`> my max script runtime is 50 seconds [20:38:07] <saper> aton`: anything in the php error log? [20:38:57] <varnent> aton': hmm - there are some good installer code folks in here who may know - but generally when I have any problems with the web installer - the command line installer is my first step in troubleshooting [20:39:34] <saper> aton`: I would check php error log and debug log if enabled first [20:39:53] <aton`> saper: php error log holds nothing [20:40:03] <aton`> debug log is enabled, but i havent found where it resides, yet [20:41:59] <aton`> varnent: i dont have shell access [20:42:46] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Wikieditor toolbar has only a half of screen width - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32372 +comment (10Candalua) [20:45:03] <aton`> i will try upgrading the database locally and then uploading it, could that work? [20:45:14] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Umherirrender; "Add call to GenderCache on Special:EditWatchlist" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8974 [20:47:11] <gerrit-wm> New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8974 [20:47:57] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: preilly; "Add some more detailed info about the xslt param of format=xml" [test/mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8939 [20:53:52] <aton`> saper: i cannot find the "debug log", can you give me a hint? [20:54:13] <saper> !debug | aton` [20:54:13] <wm-bot> aton`: For information on debugging (including viewing errors), see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:How_to_debug . A list of related configuration variables is at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Configuration_settings#Debug.2Flogging [21:09:49] <varnent> sumanah: DanielRenfro suggested earlier a developer-announce with moderator only messages about tech reports, tech blog posts (maybe?) and the tech section of SignPost - for less active developers that are maybe not on the active lists for traffic reasons [21:09:51] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Added base class for testing ORMRow deriving classes and added a mock implementation in order to test the abstract parent class itself" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8975 [21:11:12] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: L10n-bot; "Update some descriptions to be more consistent. Fix an issue with the plot message. Z" [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8976 [21:11:45] <gerrit-wm> New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Failed " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: -1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8975 [21:13:41] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: L10n-bot; "Update some descriptions to be more consistent. Fix an issue with the plot message." [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8976 [21:14:01] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Matthias Mullie; "bug 36647 - Article Feedback - Final Feedback Form (Option 5)" [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8621 [21:15:32] <gerrit-wm> New review: awjrichards; "The query parameters need to be escaped. You could use urlencode() or slightly change how you're han..." [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8475 [21:16:26] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Upload Wizard should check for protection status of titles - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37107 +comment (10Mark Holmquist) [21:21:08] <wikibugs> 03(mod) [Regression] "MWException: Language::isValidBuiltInCode must be passed a string, NULL given" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36988 normal->04BLOCKER; +code-update-regression; summary; +comment (10Krinkle) [21:21:10] <wikibugs> 03(mod) MediaWiki bugs to be fixed for 1.20wmf4 deployment (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36974 (10Krinkle) [21:26:39] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: MarkTraceur; "(bug 30728) Add message for, then implement, redirecting to UW" [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8475 [21:26:39] <gerrit-wm> New review: Catrope; "In the future, please use 'git review -R' to submit amendments to changes. The amendment you submitt..." [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8621 [21:30:11] <sumanah> Bugzilla is back up! [21:30:44] <gerrit-wm> New review: Siebrand; "Contains patchwork messages. See [[mw:i18n]] for details." [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8621 [21:31:27] <rubyruy> is there a way to get to {{FULLPAGENAME}} of the actual page for MediaWiki:: interface pages e.g. MediaWiki:Sitenotice [21:31:48] <rubyruy> i.e. basically if you use {{PAGENAME}} in MediaWiki:Sitenotice it will always resolve to "MediaWiki:Sitenotice" on all pages [21:34:18] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Patchwork message - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37098 +aftv5-1.5; +comment (10Fabrice Florin) [21:38:51] <gerrit-wm> New review: Bsitu; "Thanks for the review. I will look into a better approach to make the notification types more exten..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7986 [21:46:10] <gerrit-wm> New review: awjrichards; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8475 [21:46:12] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: awjrichards; [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8475 [21:49:11] <marktraceur__> Sweet, thanks awjr! [21:49:21] <awjr> np [21:53:16] <gerrit-wm> New review: awjrichards; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/ProofreadPage] (master); V: 1 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/6388 [21:53:25] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) Special:Undelete on suppressed revisions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37120 minor; MediaWiki: Page deletion; (krenair) [21:55:37] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Upload Wizard should check for protection status of titles - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37107 +comment (10Erik Moeller) [21:55:38] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "[ResourceLoader] Use getLanguage() accessor as the field is lazy-loaded." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8978 [21:56:01] <wikibugs> 03(mod) [Regression] "MWException: Language::isValidBuiltInCode must be passed a string, NULL given" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36988 +comment (10Aaron Schulz) [21:57:39] <Krinkle> AaronSchulz: Interesting, I wonder what broke it [21:57:40] <gerrit-wm> New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8978 [21:57:45] <Krinkle> Up until 1.20wmf3 it worked [21:57:52] <Krinkle> it broke in the master only [22:00:03] <AaronSchulz> That exception is new, if that's what you mean [22:00:50] <Krinkle> Yes, but why is it only breaking now. [22:01:00] <Krinkle> That code didn't change recently afaik [22:01:44] <AaronSchulz> Krinkle: I mean the code to throw it, it's 120a3f2 [22:01:58] <Krinkle> Was it always NULL and factory just took it until now, or did ->language got set later from now on [22:02:06] <Krinkle> !g 120a3f2 [22:02:06] <wm-bot> https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#q,120a3f2,n,z [22:02:34] <gerrit-wm> New review: awjrichards; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/ProofreadPage] (master); V: 0 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/6808 [22:05:16] <gerrit-wm> New review: Krinkle; "- Regression reported as bug 36988." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8978 [22:06:11] <awjr> is there a wildcard character for gerrit queries? [22:06:19] <AaronSchulz> "In mathematics, division by two is when a number is divided by two. Some cultures, like the ancient Egyptians, thought this was a different operation than division." [22:06:23] * AaronSchulz giggles [22:06:29] <Krinkle> awjr: Like partial match ? [22:06:30] <^demon> awjr: What kind of query are you trying to do? [22:07:01] <AaronSchulz> ^demon: easy patch https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/8627/ [22:07:06] <^demon> busy. [22:07:40] <awjr> Krinkle ^demon for instance if i want to query for every project except for subprojects of 'operations' so something like: status:open -project:operations* [22:08:12] <^demon> "is:open -operations" [22:08:29] <^demon> It's totally undocumented, but free text in the search box does partial matching against project names. [22:08:35] <awjr> o [22:08:36] <awjr> cool [22:08:38] <awjr> thanks ^demon [22:08:41] <sumanah> it DOES? aieee [22:08:45] <sumanah> cool [22:08:59] <awjr> wow life just got better. [22:09:06] <^demon> sumanah: Yep. So for all open stuff in mediawiki/, I do "is:open mediawiki/" [22:09:06] <sumanah> also awjr example: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#q,status:open+project:%255Emediawiki.*,n,z [22:09:30] <awjr> oh i didnt htink to try regex - the docs made it seem like regex would only work for file: [22:09:51] <^demon> Ha, you can regex on project:? Totally didn't know that. [22:09:59] <Krinkle> well, then it should be easy to exclude with regex as well [22:10:07] <awjr> yah [22:10:14] <awjr> wow these are like, gerrit easter eggs [22:10:55] <^demon> Ah, turns out it is documented. [22:10:56] <^demon> "Search can also be performed by typing only a text with no operator. It will try to match a project name by substring." [22:11:18] <^demon> https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/Documentation/user-search.html is good reading btw :) [22:11:33] <sumanah> ^demon: I just pointed aude at it earlier. [22:12:15] <awjr> oh i guess i was looking at old documentation [22:12:38] <awjr> google search for 'gerrit query' returns http://gerrit.googlecode.com/svn-history/r3021/documentation/2.1.4/user-search.html as first result [22:12:58] <^demon> awjr: Use the "Documentation" link in the header of our gerrit install. [22:13:08] <^demon> Those are the docs for our installed version. [22:13:15] <awjr> damn it [22:13:16] <awjr> awesome. [22:13:25] <awjr> i am so blind. [22:14:23] <Krinkle> awjr: It wasn't there in the previous version, that link is new in 2.3 (in the old version that link was only down in the footer) [22:14:38] <awjr> ha ok so im not *totally* blind [22:14:40] <Krinkle> the header has quite a few changes in 2.3 [22:15:00] <Krinkle> suddle but significant [22:15:02] <Krinkle> subtle& [22:15:04] <Krinkle> subtle* [22:15:11] <awjr> :) [22:15:43] <Krinkle> I always tend to type suddle, because that how y'all Americans pronounce it on the telly :D [22:15:46] <Krinkle> subtle is the correct writing I think [22:16:30] * aude was tricked :) [22:16:41] <aude> documentation right there but i never saw it [22:19:08] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) Article Feedback - Formatting Tweaks for Feedback Page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37121 major; MediaWiki extensions: ArticleFeedbackv5; (fflorin) [22:19:17] <^demon> Krinkle: No, it was there in 2.2 [22:19:30] <Krinkle> OK, but not in 2.1 maybe? [22:19:32] <Krinkle> I remember it not being there [22:19:32] <^demon> Nobody seems to see it until it's pointed out though :) [22:20:07] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Article Feedback - Formatting Tweaks for Feedback Page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37121 +aftv5-1.5 (10Fabrice Florin) [22:20:26] <Krinkle> I dislike the new headers of diffs though. There used to be all these settings for whitespace up there. I know they're still there under a sub menu, but I'm not sure why they split it up in 10 different tabs [22:20:35] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Article Feedback - Formatting Tweaks for Feedback Page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37121 +comment (10Fabrice Florin) [22:20:42] <^demon> Krinkle: Because it was horribly cluttered. [22:20:47] <Krinkle> I guess [22:20:52] <^demon> Although the new way isn't 100% better. Could still use some work. [22:21:01] <gerrit-wm> New review: Eloquence; "This won't do anything without the previous API core patch to include warning info even when ignorew..." [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8937 [22:21:06] <Krinkle> I do like that it differentiates between "update" and "save" now [22:21:46] <Krinkle> previously there was only "apply" which would update the current file and save it as the new default for the next time [22:22:22] <^demon> Yeah, update is just for the individual change now :) [22:22:33] <^demon> Save is "keep these new settings" [22:23:24] * Krinkle expanded bit.ly/wmbugz to https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org [22:23:27] <Krinkle> which fits just fine [22:23:45] <Krinkle> and is secure :) [22:29:47] <^demon> 28 new extensions in Git :) [22:30:21] <^demon> https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?diff=542364 - if anyone wants to volunteer to write a bunch of .gitreview files :) [22:32:07] <wikibugs> 03(mod) After removing custom prefix from the interwiki table the old links still points to the target wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31992 +comment (10Robin Pepermans (SPQRobin)) [22:33:01] <rubyruy> is there a user-editable template that is simply a global article template? [22:33:22] <rubyruy> like kinda how you can edit Mediawiki:Sidebar or Sitenotice and other such tempalte details [22:34:52] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Sometimes, Learn > Upload .. headings are incorrectly centered - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37109 +comment (10Erik Moeller) [22:36:29] <saper> ^demon: I'd rather make .gitreview obsolete :) [22:37:04] <^demon> That'd be nice too, but until then.... :p [22:37:38] <saper> my rewrite of ssh handling got abandoned - "no time to review" [22:37:49] <^demon> Ouch. [22:38:16] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Subramanya Sastry; "First attempt implementing rewriting rules on the DOM" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8885 [22:39:30] <gerrit-wm> New review: Aaron Schulz; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8889 [22:39:32] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8889 [22:41:00] <sumanah> saper: what?! link? [22:41:41] <gerrit-wm> New review: Demon; "Should this have been submitted to mediawiki/core?" [test/mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8939 [22:42:50] <preilly> ^demon: that was just for http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Tutorial#Make_and_commit_your_change [22:43:01] <^demon> preilly: Ah ok, just making sure :) [22:43:08] <^demon> Carry on. [22:43:11] <preilly> ^demon: thanks, for checking [22:43:49] <saper> sumanah: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/5720/ I agree I should've submitted another change [22:44:34] <sumanah> Ah, I see; it's an automatic abandoning after a negative review and then a week passing. [22:44:55] <sumanah> that's less outrageous. [22:45:04] * sumanah puts down torch & gun [22:48:44] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: L10n-bot; "Tweak message wikibase-setting-languages" [mediawiki/extensions/WikidataRepo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8981 [22:48:54] <sumanah> saper: you got the note from Danielle about the instructions for calling in? [22:49:40] <saper> sumanah: yep - hangout link [22:49:45] <sumanah> great [22:50:08] <saper> but no idea is this all on hangout ? [22:50:23] <saper> I've used only hangout precedessor so please bear with me [22:56:29] <gerrit-wm> New review: SPQRobin; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Interwiki] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8474 [22:56:31] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: SPQRobin; [mediawiki/extensions/Interwiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8474 [23:00:47] <sumanah> saper: Deebki - yes, I believe the whole experience will be on Google Hangout. [23:01:47] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "[FileRepo] Made getDescription() respect *_deleted fields." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8983 [23:03:48] <gerrit-wm> New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8983 [23:08:16] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: MarkTraceur; "(bug 37109) Fix padding-right issue caused by strange timing" [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8928 [23:10:36] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Sometimes, Learn > Upload .. headings are incorrectly centered - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37109 +comment (10Mark Holmquist) [23:12:36] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Matthias Mullie; "bug 36647 - Article Feedback - Final Feedback Form (Option 5)" [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8621 [23:12:40] <sumanah> marktraceur: do you just love working on UW? :) [23:12:52] <marktraceur__> sumanah, it's the reason I draw breath [23:13:23] <marktraceur__> That and Vietnamese soup, and I can be happy [23:17:15] <Clarkcj> I have a question I am upgrading a wiki to the latest version 1.19.0 from 1.18.3 and I am coming up with this error: Fatal error: Class 'MWDebug' not found in /home/content/s/u/s/susejoshua/html/wiki/includes/db/Database.php on line 855 [23:17:27] <Clarkcj> How would I fix that error. [23:17:44] <sumanah> marktraceur: right now the big yay factor for me is a re-watch of the OK Go ska video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJKythlXAIY [23:19:22] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Generating thumbnails does not work when there is no access to /tmp - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36475 +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger) [23:21:17] <plc902> what's the default value for $wgScriptPath when installing Mediawiki? [23:21:43] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Katie Horn; "Adding an IP velocity filter for DonationInterface. It uses memcache, and the php5-memcached library, but should fail nicely if those things aren't installed/configured and the filter is enabled." [mediawiki/extensions/DonationInterface] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8984 [23:22:34] <sumanah> plc902: Clarkcj - if you don't get an answer here try mediawiki-l [23:22:36] <sumanah> !lists [23:22:36] <wm-bot> mediawiki-l and wikitech-l are the primary mailing lists for MediaWiki-related issues. See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mailing_lists for details. [23:23:04] <gerrit-wm> New review: awjrichards; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8935 [23:23:08] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: awjrichards; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8935 [23:23:51] <gerrit-wm> New review: awjrichards; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/WikiLove] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8936 [23:23:53] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: awjrichards; [mediawiki/extensions/WikiLove] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8936 [23:24:57] <sumanah> saper: you should probably join the hangout NOW to ensure everything works [23:27:04] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Generating thumbnails does not work when there is no access to /tmp - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36475 +comment (10Chad H.) [23:31:32] <sumanah> saper: ping, happening now! [23:37:54] <gerrit-wm> New review: Pgehres; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/DonationInterface] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8984 [23:38:19] <gerrit-wm> New review: awjrichards; "I haven't actually tried this patchset but WikiPage doesn't have a getContent() method." [mediawiki/extensions/Contest] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8910 [23:40:24] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Generating thumbnails does not work when there is no access to /tmp - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36475 +comment (10Aaron Schulz) [23:43:04] <saper> sumanah: yep [23:43:07] <saper> I think I'm in [23:43:14] <saper> it's dark but I can hear [23:43:47] <sumanah> saper: try clicking on the "Patrick Reilly" miniscreen [23:44:48] <saper> I see Chad only (dark) [23:44:57] <gerrit-wm> New review: Katie Horn; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/DonationInterface] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8984 [23:44:59] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: Katie Horn; [mediawiki/extensions/DonationInterface] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8984 [23:46:29] <saper> right [23:46:34] <saper> my mic is muted :) [23:46:37] <sumanah> sorry we cannot hear you saper [23:46:56] <sumanah> saper: talk to us in the GChat in the hangout? [23:46:58] <plc902> the skin for my wiki stopped loading after I made a couple of changes in the localsettings.php file, can anyone help? [23:46:59] <saper> I can hear you all [23:48:07] <sumanah> saper: please say so in the GChat. [23:48:44] <gerrit-wm> New review: awjrichards; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/DonationInterface] (master); V: 0 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8886 [23:51:28] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) [SWL] 0.1; User preferences notice on -> Undefined variable: type / Undefined variable: name in SemanticWatchlist.hooks.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37122 normal; MediaWiki extensions: SemanticWatchlist; (jamesin.hongkong.1) [23:55:57] <plc902> When I change skins, the changes don't show up; the skin on my wiki appears to be be permanently set to simple, anyone know how to fix this? [23:56:09] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: SPQRobin; "Fix output of form" [mediawiki/extensions/Interwiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8986 [23:56:15] <sumanah> Dantman: ^ re plc902