? [02:56:13] It should produce

[02:56:37] because

does not allow parsing of {{PAGENAME}} [02:56:49] Hmmm. [02:56:58] So, it needs to go into #tag so the parser can expand {{PAGENAME}} before it produces the tag [02:57:54] badon: Use {{#lsth:}}? :-) [02:58:02] Or one of those. [02:58:04] looking [02:58:07] Oh. [02:58:14] You want to mark the sections or include one? [02:58:16] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Labeled_Section_Transclusion [02:58:36] {{#lst:}} should work for transclusion. [02:58:44] mark them [02:58:50] Hmmm. [02:59:13] With dynamic section names? [02:59:17] In essense, I want to give people a snippet of code that always works, so it'll have some fancier parserfunctions and magic words in it. [02:59:18] yeps [02:59:23] That sounds pretty awful. [02:59:34] For me, yes. For the users, it's great. [02:59:55] I expose lots of bugs by doing crazy stuff like this. [03:00:00] You can construct sample code without calling it. [03:00:23] <section begin={{PAGENAME}} /> or whatever. [03:00:36] But I think actually having dynamic section names would be awful. [03:01:06] Oh, right. But I guess I should be more specific - I'm doing stuff with templates, which probably won't actually work due to the limitations of LST, so I suppose, to be perfectly honest, I'm just "wasting time" fleshing out the details of a bug report. [03:01:19] :D [03:01:22] Well, enjoy! [03:01:39] Usually when I do this, I find a workaround that actually works, despite the limitations, so it's not really wasting time. [03:01:55] Plus, when the bugs get fixed, more things become possible. [03:02:12] I'm not sure that bug will be fixed. That's what I was saying. [03:02:16] It sounds like a "wontfix" to me. [03:02:23] Dynamic (variable) section names are a nightmare. [03:02:36] why do you say that? [03:02:49] You mean header sections or LST sections? [03:02:58] LST sections. [03:03:22] Can you explain? [03:03:32]

[03:03:35] You think that should work? [03:03:38] This is the first time I've tried it, so I haven't thought of why it'd be awful. [03:03:53] yes, I think it should work with #tag, although I'd probably use subst instead. [03:04:15] It'd prevent collisions, especially if a lot of automated things are doing it. [03:04:22] semantic forms, etc [03:05:05] If I can figure out a way around the template limitations, like by using subst, then lots of things become possible. [03:06:04] As far as I can tell, subst is the only way around the template limitations, but since #tag doesn't work with LST, subst doesn't work when subst SHOULD work. [03:07:53] Hmm, I just had an idea with #lsth that might get around template limitions too. Fiddling for minute...brb [03:12:01] Nope, #lsth doesn't get around template limitations. Oh well, it's still pretty handy. [03:23:31] 03(NEW) [MW] #tag cannot produce XHTML-style self-closing tags - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37256 enhancement; MediaWiki: Parser; (fastgoldfish) [03:24:25] Brooke: thanks for the good discussion about that, it really helped my write up that report. I marked it as an enhancement instead of a bug per-se, since I don't know of anything "normal" that's breaking because of it. It's just advanced usages that need it. [03:24:34] :-) [03:26:10] It's been a while since I've written a bug report. Tinker-time makes me happy, and allows me to find bugs :) [03:59:22] Hmm, has it been reported before about the Wikimedia Bugzilla's sidebar being too small? [04:02:08] Is the sidebar too small or are the links too long? [04:02:42] its rather small [04:02:53] and yes, the text thus gets covered [04:03:07] File a bug? [04:03:15] its at least not the size that the real wiki has though [04:03:30] Right. [04:03:33] It's narrower. [04:03:40] but has it been reported before? [04:04:02] I don't think so. [04:04:29] * Hydriz shall do so :) [04:10:22] 03(NEW) Sidebar is too narrow - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37257 normal; Wikimedia: Bugzilla; (hydra) [04:10:27] close enough [05:18:30] 03(NEW) Inline Query: "columns=" no longer works with "format=template" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37258 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; (salquint) [05:42:15] 03(NEW) Subquery Namespace filter not working - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37259 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; (jmcclure) [05:56:22] 03(mod) Subquery Namespace filter not working - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37259 +comment (10John McClure) [06:33:57] 03(mod) removeUnusedAccounts.php needs to ignore the now always present new user log entry - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34581 +comment (10Konstantin Dmitriev) [07:40:11] My database got smaller. Is that normal? [07:40:57] It's about 10 MB smaller than it was last time a ran a backup a few days ago, and lots of new pages and data have been added since then. [07:41:23] I think I added the translate extension, but I would expect that to increase the size further, with its own database info. [08:08:14] 03(mod) Use accessKeyLabel property when available - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37239 +comment (10Michael M.) [09:00:46] 03(mod) Contents in nav UI to section navigation not scrolling to section on iOS 4.3 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37253 +comment (10Jon) [09:02:43] 03(NEW) Mobile site should have selenium tests - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37260 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend; (jrobson) [09:11:14] 03(NEW) Certain articles show greyed out sections on iOS - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37261 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend; (tfinc) [09:18:49] Hi [09:27:27] MaxSem: these are the keys, right? https://translatewiki.net/wiki/Special:Translations/MediaWiki:Mobile-frontend-off https://translatewiki.net/wiki/Special:Translations/MediaWiki:Mobile-frontend-on [09:27:38] siebrand: yes [09:27:51] MaxSem: Looks like we didn't have these messages before, so this is the only material we have so far. [09:28:36] MaxSem: as you can see from (ast) DESACTIVAES, it is being translated as enabled/disabled. [09:29:25] MaxSem: from what I can see "WUŠALTOWANY" and "ZAŠALTOWANY" are about the longest translations so far. [09:30:20] great, tjhanks! [09:36:20] siebrand: bulgarian, belarussian and russian versions look like abvreviations [09:36:25] s/abv/abb/ [09:48:24] 03(NEW) Article Feedback - CTA 5 Tweaks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37262 major; MediaWiki extensions: ArticleFeedbackv5; (fflorin) [09:49:33] 03(mod) Article Feedback - CTA 5 Tweaks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37262 +aftv5-1.5 (10Fabrice Florin) [09:54:07] 03(ASSIGNED) Visual representation of diacritic in Arabic special chars - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33895 +testme; +comment (10Amir E. Aharoni) [09:57:02] 03(mod) Properties which values are entered with a csv import are considered as unused properties - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35571 (10contact) [10:02:34] 03(NEW) Enhanced watchlist shows inconsistent behavior when showing "minor" and "bot" flag for multiple changes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37263 normal; MediaWiki: Watchlist; (listenleser) [11:04:28] This is stupid. [11:04:38] Apparently I visit my webserver too much, and now it has blocked me. [11:22:36] 03(mod) JPEG image not scaled correctly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37265 +comment (10Marcin Cieślak) [11:24:44] 03(mod) JPEG image not scaled correctly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37265 +comment (10Marcin Cieślak) [11:33:27] hello aharoni [11:34:06] I have been put in charge of getting a mediawiki working again after it was moved from one server to another server, it was running 1.15.1 so I upgraded it to the latest version, but now I am strugling with that some files exceeds the maximum execution time (mainly DairikiDiff.php, parse.php). Anyone have any ideas of what might be causing this? [11:34:13] this is wellwisher [11:34:51] well, can you tell how to edit the langauge files? [11:36:20] hi wellwisher [11:36:25] hello [11:36:44] most likely you'll want to edit language files through translatewiki.net [11:36:46] sorry, i had trouble in updating the language files in the past [11:36:58] what exactly do you want to do? [11:37:03] i updated some lines correctly [11:37:25] but you said that i had overwritten the default english lines [11:38:12] http://translatewiki.net/wiki/MediaWiki:Mobile-frontend-feedback-no-message/qqq [11:38:27] http://translatewiki.net/wiki/MediaWiki:Mobile-frontend-close-section/qqq [11:38:36] http://translatewiki.net/wiki/MediaWiki:Mobile-frontend-leave-feedback-form-message-placeholder/qqq [11:38:51] i had received them in translatewiki inbox [11:38:57] yes, i wrote it. notice the ending: "qqq". [11:39:04] "qqq" is for documentation in English. [11:39:12] oh [11:39:17] if you want to translate to Telugu, then ending must be "te". [11:39:40] ooh [11:39:46] except that your edits were good. [11:40:15] (at least technically... I don't know, Telugu, unfortunately.) [11:42:16] wellwisher: Each message has a corresponding documentation string in English with the "qqq" ending. So "Mobile-frontend-close-section/en" is the source message in English, "Mobile-frontend-close-section/hi" is the translation to Hindi, "Mobile-frontend-close-section/te" is the translation to Telugu and "Mobile-frontend-close-section/qqq" is the documentation. [11:42:38] ok [11:42:47] will look into it [11:43:18] wellwisher: the documentation is shown every time you edit the translation of a message, and there's also a link to editing the documentation if you think that it's wrong or incomplete. [11:44:01] 03(mod) MobileFrontend breaks frontend caching in some cases - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35842 +comment (10Jon) [11:48:50] ok [11:55:20] i had clicked on the Telugu (te) on right top and entered text below in the box and saved it. thats enough, right? [11:56:06] got it [11:56:15] just got used to them [12:18:13] 03(mod) Contents in nav UI to section navigation not scrolling to section on iOS 4.3 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37253 (10Jon) [12:19:23] 03(mod) 'mobile-frontend-language-header' should use plural - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37215 (10Jon) [12:20:02] 03(NEW) Settings checkboxes do not cope with long titles - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37266 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend (Beta); (jrobson) [12:24:50] can someone tell me if there is any attempt to provide mathml or mathjax rendering into wikimedia ? [12:28:12] bbear: Yeah, brion has worked on MathJax [12:28:28] * RoanKattouw looks around, doesn't see brion at the hackathon venue [12:33:33] 03(mod) Don't surface fix me templates on Mobile Frontend - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30421 normal->15enhancement (10Jon) [12:38:22] 03(mod) Several history entries for the same content - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37225 +comment (10Tim Starling) [12:39:37] 03(mod) Mobile users do not get search on certain pages (Pages served to the app get cached for mobile users) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37264 +comment (10Jon) [12:41:00] RoanKattouw: your at the venue already? [12:41:21] Yeah [12:41:56] The main program doesn't start until later tonight though [12:42:06] Who is at the venue already? [12:42:34] A bunch of people; we've had the Wikidata summit here yesterday and part of today [12:43:02] I'm tempted to show up, but then again, my room is "ready" in 16 minutes time lol [12:43:03] So it's mostly WMF and WMDE staff right now but I think we've had some volunteer walk-ins already [12:43:14] Oh, you can't check in till 3? [12:43:34] But you got to Berlin and to the hostel OK then? [12:43:37] Apparently not... or atleast, they're not done cleaning the room or something [12:43:41] Oh righ [12:44:18] ...and Denny is now saying this is the end of the Wikidata summit [12:44:43] Yeah, didn't miss either of my flights, and the german public transport was easier than I expected, I have a day saver thing so I'm tempted to go jump from stop to stop on the way there.re... [12:44:53] Lcawte: Come down here when you're ready, we have t-shirts and badges that do double duty as metro tickets [12:45:15] Kick-off of the main program is at 6pm [12:45:52] When I've got my room, sure... its what, 15 minutes away if I set this laptop up properly... [12:45:56] "If you have something you want to work on with other people, please prepare a 3-second pitch for the 6pm kick-off" --sumana [12:46:10] Then, tour of the venue at 7, then barbecue [12:46:20] Cool [12:46:49] Lcawte: So yeah just to repeat this: your conference badge (which you can pick up here at the registration desk at the venue) is also a valid day pass for Fri, Sat & Sun [12:47:02] (for public transit) [12:47:11] Oh cool, how does that work ^.^ [12:47:28] SF? [12:47:47] I wish I would of known that before I spent 6 euros on a day saver... now I'm going to have to use that... [12:48:01] Lcawte: You would've had to spend 2x2.30 to get here anyway [12:48:04] Thorncrag: Berlin [12:48:24] 03(NEW) banner.js and banner.css served to non-zero rated mobile users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37267 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend; (jrobson) [12:48:40] Lcawte: Don't know how they pulled it off but the reverse side of the badge has the logo of the transit company (VBB) and everythnig [12:48:41] oh [12:48:46] Yeah, but I planned atleast 3 different journeys today... bus -> ubahn station and that to here... then venue and back tnight [12:49:11] Yeah, it would've made sense if it weren't for the badge thing [12:49:23] Just saying, your 'waste' is all of like 1.40 [12:49:49] If I were in Berlin right now, I would surely be going around saying "Ich bin ein Berliner", gut for no apparent reason. [12:49:51] 03(NEW) Move writeCookie function to a better home - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37268 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend; (jrobson) [12:49:57] I only have 90 euros with me, and I spent 5.5 on that of a massive bag of M & Ms in duty free... [12:50:15] haha [12:50:52] +6.30 on saver [12:51:34] Actually, do I lose any money, its two different trips to get here... then one to the hostel, 3 x 2.30 ... I actually saved like, 60cent ^.^ [12:52:59] then if someone asks you if you are from Berlin you say... no, I'm a jelly donut... [12:55:21] 03(FIXED) Special:TranslatorSignup not working: shows Wikimedia Error "the site is experiencing problems" message - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37235 (10Amir E. Aharoni) [12:55:41] I started my stay at the hostel off well... theres a baggage storage room downstairs for when your waiting for your room etc, and it is locked with a key... yeah, I couldn't unlock the door... and then a staff member comes down and does it first time [12:55:50] 03(ASSIGNED) notification language preferences may be saved as empty strings - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37165 (10Amir E. Aharoni) [12:56:10] 03(mod) Enable $wgCrossSiteAJAXdomains for wikimedia sites - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/20814 +comment (10Roan Kattouw) [12:56:52] Oh yay, when I go to google now, it sends me to google.de :) Can I haz translate pwease googlez [12:59:54] Lcawte: It happens with Google all the time. They think that they know better than you do what site and what languages you want. [13:00:05] * werdna waves [13:00:09] how's Berlin? [13:00:11] There is also another volunteer here somewhere, he couldn't get onto the wifi, I wonder where he went [13:00:25] and the scariest part - they know better than you which search results you want. [13:00:31] awkward. [13:02:10] Silly boots, I brought shower gel post-security, they put it in a bag, and then the seal came undone, so I had to bin it in Frankfurt [13:02:36] yay. [13:02:44] I love LAG restrictions [13:03:05] I dislike laptop and lack of linux drivers [13:03:18] You should use a real operating system [13:03:21] ::hides:: [13:03:44] werdna: uhh, what? [13:04:00] :) [13:04:59] lol, the wifi toc says you must be over 16 to use their wifi... nope. [13:08:55] 03(NEW) Have link to beta test Wikipedia app from the released version - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37269 normal; Wikipedia App: Generic; (yuvipanda) [13:10:28] I also found the pizza hut, bugger king, and I'm going to look for madonalds in a moment [13:12:06] Lcawte: While in Berlin you gotta get döner at least once :) [13:12:24] a wha? [13:12:35] Döner kebab [13:12:40] ohhh [13:13:12] take Lahmacun there [13:13:32] Who/what is Lahmacun? [13:13:40] Did none of you go on the sightseeing trip today then? [13:14:47] I guess some people might've [13:14:53] I didn't, I had to pay attention to the Wikidata stuff [13:15:10] hmm, where was that vending maching I saw... [13:16:00] RoanKattouw_away: it's a kind of Turkish pizza but rolled - very portable and good to have on the go, you can get it at every Kebab place [13:16:06] hey Lcawte I am that dude who couldn't find wifi :D [13:16:12] I figured out [13:16:37] We have more invaders [13:16:40] heh [13:17:35] 03(NEW) "$edits since $date" count coming up incorrectly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37270 normal; MediaWiki extensions: PageTriage; (okeyes) [13:17:39] what's the modern equivalent of wfMsgNoTrans()? [13:17:47] petan|hackaton: Ah, nice to meet you :)# [13:17:52] ashley: wfMessage( 'foo' )->text() I *think* [13:18:07] RoanKattouw_away: thanks :) [13:18:12] Oh my gosh... the vending machine in the public area has vanilla coke, I haven't seen this stuff in ages [13:18:42] I don't know if I ever saw that [13:19:19] THE CONTRAVERSY [13:19:29] HOW IS THIS ALLOWED ANYWHERE!? [13:20:23] I guess I should go ask about my room :/ [13:20:40] Lcawte: don't forget to ask for a wifi code, it doesn't work for free in rooms [13:20:53] You want all of the wifis. [13:21:20] Ok, do I leave my laptop here while I walk to the front desk, or do I shut it down now... [13:21:39] actually I could make a hotspot from my laptop and share wifi across the hackaton people :D but I don't if they were happy in hostel [13:22:05] Ooh, hostel is dead downstairs [13:22:14] I don't see anyone at all, I just hear radios [13:22:49] petan|hackaton: So you are paying for your wifi upstairs, or is it free but requires a code? [13:23:01] you pay 8 euro [13:23:22] Is that for the whole weekend, or a day? [13:23:25] 2 days [13:23:34] they have 2 days or 1 year [13:23:36] :D [13:23:42] Hmm, ok, so I'll probably get one in the morning then... [13:24:09] Or I'll just come down here, as its free and its "social space" [13:24:19] is there anyone else down? [13:24:28] from hackaton [13:24:43] No lol, but thedj and valhalasaw we're both in here yesterday apparently... [13:24:55] And I'm literally the only guest downstairs as far as I can see ^.^ [13:25:04] Well, brb, going to enquire [13:25:22] Wait, it is 15:25 local time right? [13:25:27] yes [13:25:33] Cool [13:25:36] hi, when I edit a page on my wiki, I get this error: http://pastebin.no/33dl [13:26:00] the edit is still applied [13:26:16] but how can solve that db issue [13:26:16] ? [13:26:19] can I* [13:26:37] meh, the strange dude isn't around, I'll wait... [13:26:46] me? :D [13:26:50] I can come no worries hehe [13:27:01] No, the hostel guy that can open the door I can't lol [13:27:17] hey Ryan_Lane [13:29:30] Lcawte: get a daily or 3-day pass or something for public transport, paying 2,30 per trip is too much [13:29:56] He did [13:30:06] saper: Also, your conference badge is valid as a 3-day pass for Jun 1-3 [13:30:11] 03(NEW) Right changes for the French Wikipedia : add the possibility for local bureaucrats to add and remove account creators - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37271 normal; Wikimedia: Site configuration; (quentinv57) [13:30:13] ah great [13:30:14] ^ yeah, was about to quote that [13:30:17] only you need to get there [13:30:26] so I'll use my city ticket there first [13:30:26] 03(mod) Right changes for the French Wikipedia : add the possibility for local bureaucrats to add and remove account creators - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37271 normal->15enhancement (10Quentinv57) [13:30:32] I brought a day one, and I'll save about 60 cents with that lol [13:30:35] but I am not sure what time I'll be there [13:31:17] aha so where I buy that 3 day thing [13:31:31] at any station I guess [13:31:36] they say the badge works [13:31:49] you mean the badge works for the public transport? :O [13:31:52] Yes [13:32:00] The reverse side of the badge has a VBB logo and everything :) [13:32:05] ooh [13:32:15] so I don't need to buy anything atm [13:32:23] yes, that's not unusual here. You buy tickets for a concert and fare is usually included till late night for example. [13:33:58] Ok, where do I buy 2l bottles of vanilla coke, and where do I buy lots of 100ml bottles... [13:34:02] petan|hackaton: Well you'll still need a ticket to get down here and pick up your badge [13:34:07] Lcawte: Any supermarket? [13:34:32] Lcawte: let me know when you gonna move to the venue so that I don't have to get lost alone in here :D [13:34:44] petan|hackaton: will do [13:35:21] hashar: how dare you aren't on hackaton [13:35:35] :D [13:35:55] petan|hackaton: hi [13:35:59] petan|hackaton: I am [13:36:11] yay [13:36:19] petan|hackaton: where are ya? ; -D I am wearing a pink shirt and in the middle of the venue. [13:36:31] let's bring the cluster down tonight, gonna be fun :D [13:36:46] sure [13:36:57] have to hack some testswarm first [13:37:03] Lcawte: why do you need to buy coke? [13:37:07] then have a few round of beer with ops + siebrand [13:37:10] hashar: I am not at the place now [13:37:19] where are ya? [13:37:22] in hostel atm [13:37:27] k [13:37:39] are you coming for the barbecue BBQ ? [13:37:45] for sure [13:37:50] so come poke me there [13:37:52] ;-} [13:40:47] I spy a vvv [13:43:53] 03(NEW) UploadWizard can't be set to a specific language in the url - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37272 normal; MediaWiki extensions: UploadWizard; (maarten) [13:44:24] 03(mod) UploadWizard can't be set to a specific language in the url - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37272 (10Maarten Dammers) [13:44:24] 03(mod) UploadWizard: Wiki Loves Monuments contest issues (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37144 (10Maarten Dammers) [13:45:52] Reedy: I haven't seen Vanilla Coke in the UK in like... forever... [13:45:55] woo, I have my room! [13:46:49] \O/ [13:48:18] brb, going to find it [13:48:35] 03(NEW) Conflict with ConfirmEdit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37273 normal; MediaWiki extensions: LiquidThreads; (dasch) [13:51:15] 03(mod) Article Feedback - Add a 'View feedback' link to the Talk page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36502 +comment (10Reha Sterbin) [13:53:18] !profiling [13:53:19] For information on how to enable profiling for MediaWiki, see [13:54:10] 03(FIXED) Move writeCookie function to a better home - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37268 +comment (10Jon) [13:54:34] 03(FIXED) Javascript modules fail (Certain articles show greyed out sections on iOS) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37261 (10Jon) [13:55:12] it wasn't stipulated [13:55:42] 03(mod) Special:Browse doesn't show attribute labels - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/20795 (10contact) [13:55:52] 03(FIXED) Mobile users do not get search on certain pages (Pages served to the app get cached for mobile users) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37264 +comment (10Jon) [14:06:23] 03(NEW) MediaWiki Installer is Translated in Korean - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37274 normal; MediaWiki: Installer; (aranet100) [14:10:44] petan|hackaton: You still upstairs? [14:11:13] yes [14:11:27] I am in room 532 [14:11:41] should I go down [14:11:42] Want to head out, apparently I'm rooming with someone else who is attending... and he's also heading out to the venue nnow [14:11:48] ok [14:11:54] will meet you down then [14:12:30] you go right now ok? [14:12:45] Yep, we're planning on going now, we're in the public area [14:16:22] 03(mod) MediaWiki Installer is Translated in Korean - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37274 +comment (10Platonides) [14:19:57] New review: Platonides; "PHP 5.3 would silently convert the array into "Array", so the only notice would be the if you relied..." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9596 [14:20:15] New patchset: Amire80; "bug 37165 Delete unused language preferences" [mediawiki/extensions/TranslationNotifications] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9634 [14:20:34] 03(mod) notification language preferences may be saved as empty strings - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37165 +comment (10Amir E. Aharoni) [14:27:33] New patchset: SPQRobin; "Update functions to fetchLanguageNames()" [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaIncubator] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9635 [14:27:48] New review: Reedy; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/EducationProgram] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8694 [14:27:50] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions/EducationProgram] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8694 [14:29:07] New review: Reedy; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8975 [14:29:10] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8975 [14:30:20] New review: Reedy; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/EducationProgram] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8704 [14:30:22] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions/EducationProgram] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8704 [14:30:59] ashley: RoanKattouw_away: it's ->plain() actually [14:40:28] wellwisher: beep. you did it again: https://translatewiki.net/wiki/MediaWiki:Mobile-frontend-leave-feedback-submit/qqq :) [14:40:36] it's supposed to be written in English, not in Telugu. [14:40:41] really? [14:40:43] ooh [14:40:50] ahhhhhh [14:41:41] wellwisher: what does "తోడ్పడండి" mean in Telugu? [14:41:50] support [14:41:56] to give support [14:42:04] assist [14:42:11] help [14:42:38] 03(mod) Uploads can end up with no file page, creating deletion and protection problems - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34228 +comment (10CT Cooper) [14:42:42] wellwisher: Maybe also "contribute"? [14:42:59] yeah [14:43:31] That's what it says on the link to the "qqq" pages. Maybe we should change it. [14:44:32] contribute has near meaning to that but not 100% match [14:46:13] 03(NEW) hack Jenkins to test MobileFrontend (PHPUnit + Qunit) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37276 normal; Wikimedia: Testing Infrastructure; (hashar) [14:46:57] well, finally found how to edit the files [14:50:57] contribute = పాలు పంచుకోండి [14:52:02] once I have commit access on git, I can make my extensions available through ExtensionDistributor, right? [14:56:55] If ED was working [14:57:30] Which I should probably try and deal with [14:57:37] but don't have enough rights to do so.. [14:58:12] New patchset: Reedy; "Add 2 errors to list" [mediawiki/extensions/EducationProgram] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9636 [15:00:41] Wll [15:01:00] Woo* I'm with the cool kids now... [15:03:58] 03(NEW) Enable Collection Extension on tawiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37277 normal; Wikimedia: Site configuration; (srik.lak) [15:03:58] 03(mod) Modify Collection format variables from PDF to ODT for Tamil Wikiprojects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37154 (10Srikanth Logic) [15:03:58] 03(mod) Tamil Wiki projects (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32578 (10Srikanth Logic) [15:07:35] 03(mod) Enable Collection Extension on tawiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37277 +shell (10Srikanth Logic) [15:09:30] * Lcawte is people spotting and fanboying it up in a private IRC channel... [15:11:28] once I have commit access on git, I can make my extensions available through ExtensionDistributor, right? [15:11:35] ... Everyone can commit in git, Schroeder [15:18:32] Is there somewhere I could find a more informative error message than "Error creating thumbnail:"? http://fs.error420.com/wiki/File:Map_red_squares.png [15:18:51] I probably should of checked out all the revelant repos in advancve :/ [15:19:41] Krenair: only those who have accounts [15:20:54] New patchset: Umherirrender; "update in export.xsd to match export xml" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9638 [15:21:46] I see why people hate patch.diff's now... I have like 6 of them, the first being that geshi patch that took me the whole of the last hackathon I went to fixing [15:21:54] Can anyone give me an idea of what to try next with my "Error creating thumbnail" error? I built a new version of ImageMagick and pointed $wgImageMagickConvertCommand at it, but I just keep getting this not-helpful error message [15:22:05] http://fs.error420.com/wiki/File:Map_red_squares.png [15:22:26] Schroeder, no, anyone can clone and commit [15:22:56] New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9638 [15:23:29] Schroeder, It's pushing things back for review that requires an account [15:25:37] Hmm, ok, how is my SVN access to pywikipediabot still not working :/ [15:28:12] 03(mod) MediaWiki Installer is Translated in Korean - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37274 (10aranet100) [15:30:18] 03(NEW) See about custom user-agent string for Windows 8 app - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37278 normal; Wikipedia App: Generic; (brion) [15:33:04] If my image thumbnails show up as "Error creating thumbnail:" is there a way to find a more detailed error message somewhere else? [15:34:05] New patchset: Umherirrender; "update export-demo.xml" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9639 [15:34:40] TehShrike: it's imagemagick bitching [15:34:43] usually permissions related [15:36:01] New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9639 [15:36:08] Reedy: how would you test to track down the issue? [15:36:12] New review: Umherirrender; "Something is wrong with my newline style. Is Unix style wrong or my IDE?" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9639 [15:36:16] I'm not a very good *nix admin [15:36:37] Does mediawiki put better logs anywhere, where I could look for a more detailed error message? [15:36:56] That's not really mediawiki itself [15:37:02] it's just spewing what imagemagick ouptuts [15:37:04] errrm [15:37:11] !thumbnail [15:37:12] For information on configuring thumbnailing on MediaWiki, please refer to . [15:37:46] I did find that, and managed to rebuild a new version of ImageMagick and point my MediaWiki install at it [15:38:00] But it doesn't seem to have had any result [15:38:14] fancy ;) [15:38:19] Can you upload files alright? [15:38:57] Yeah: http://fs.error420.com/images/b/b5/Map_red_squares.png vs http://fs.error420.com/wiki/File:Map_red_squares.png [15:39:16] It just looks to be the thumbnailing that got unhappy [15:39:21] 03(mod) Enable pinch to zoom in nearby view on supported devices - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36005 +comment (10Brion Vibber) [15:39:27]