[00:00:02] 03(mod) Magic words are considered to be (non-existing) templates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31576 (10Krinkle) [00:00:08] 03(mod) MediaWiki bugs to be fixed for 1.20wmf4 deployment (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36974 (10Krinkle) [00:05:42] New review: Krinkle; "So we would set this to true in wmf-config, right?" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9850 [00:07:05] how can i create a link (localized, etc) to a specific category? [00:07:24] is there a function like $this->link('category', 'software')? [00:08:37] New review: Krinkle; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9858 [00:09:31] 03(mod) jquery.suggestions should obey maxRows setting - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37316 summary (10Krinkle) [00:33:35] what do you move the GoogleAdSense from the default position? [00:33:43] how can i get an image bath to my logo inside my skin directory? [00:33:43] Google AdSense 2 extention [00:34:15] New review: Aaron Schulz; "Why not just have your config code check the MW_* constants. That way, only code that can handle --w..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9804 [00:50:27] 03(mod) Wikimedia should provide media dumps (files, images, etc.) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27939 minor->normal (10MZMcBride) [00:52:02] 03(mod) Wikimedia should provide media dumps (files, images, etc.) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27939 +comment (10p858snake) [00:54:35] 03(NEW) Wikitech's MediaWiki installation should be updated - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37317 normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (b) [01:08:57] 03(mod) A "current" version of the upload.tar dir would be nice - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/1298 (10jeremyb) [01:31:00] anyone around? [01:31:29] I am [01:33:47] im trying to change an extention [01:33:49] move it rather [01:33:54] i have no idea where to look for that [01:58:07] rain`: elaborate? [02:07:31] JeremyB: xe is looking to move google adsense elsewhere in the page. [02:07:49] whoa, how do you know? [02:08:24] * jeremyb rips out Amgine|Berlin's shift key and stabs xyr with it [02:08:38] use your tab key damnit? kthx ;) [02:09:24] [02:09:32] Amgine|Berlin: xe should then pastebin his config or link to his site or find some other way to give us some more info or all of the above [02:09:50] I haz scrollback, and way way too much empathy. [02:09:53] err, whoops @ "his" [02:10:02] ahh [02:10:13] jeremyb: i have Google AdSense 2 up on the site nad it shows below the entire sidebar [02:10:17] i do too. but i didn't think to go back that far [02:10:34] link to the site? [02:10:43] i'd like to get it on the left side or maybe a small one up to [02:10:53] jeremyb: msg [02:11:42] its under the toolbox [02:13:37] rain`: i see no ads [02:13:48] im still waiting for them to be approved [02:13:51] so the box should be blank [02:13:59] but do you see where it is positioned? [02:14:02] is the site domain a secret? (because you /msg'd) [02:14:12] no its not a secret [02:14:18] i just do that by habbit i think [02:14:42] ahh, now i see it [02:14:51] yeah it takes a while to find them lol [02:14:55] and your config? [02:15:12] you might want to upgrade [02:15:21] it should be upgraded [02:17:35] it was updated about a month or two ago [02:18:52] hurr. [02:18:52] durr. [02:23:23] rain`: well i looked for a couple mins and didn't find an obvious answer to your questions. you should ask "siebrand" here in ~5-8 hrs from now (berlin time). but he'll be kinda busy with hackathon i expect [02:24:42] ok ill keep a look out for him [02:24:43] thank you [02:25:08] im in the process of getting appoved for adsense [02:25:24] i just hope the placement doesnt affect that [02:25:39] i could just post something above the welcome message maybe for that case [02:28:57] good luck ;) [02:29:11] Thank you :) [02:50:39] 03(NEW) Commons Upload Request - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37318 normal; Wikimedia: Site configuration; (fastily) [02:51:14] 03(mod) Commons Upload Request - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37318 normal->15enhancement (10Fastily) [02:51:41] 03(mod) Big Upload Request to Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37037 +comment (10Fastily) [03:00:41] New patchset: Jeremyb; "(bug 23427) PAGEID magic word" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9858 [03:02:29] New review: Jeremyb; "PS 3: tweaked commit msg, minor whitespace fix to match existing convention" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9858 [03:02:48] New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9858 [03:12:14] New patchset: Jeremyb; "document CASE (0th array element) for $magicWords" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9875 [03:13:18] New review: Jeremyb; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9875 [03:14:12] New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9875 [03:47:27] 03(mod) PDF related bugs and enhancements (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31552 (10Doug) [03:47:27] 03(mod) pdftotext should be poppler version not xpdf version on wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35122 (10Doug) [04:47:29] 03(mod) A "current" version of the upload.tar dir would be nice - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/1298 +comment (10Ariel T. Glenn) [05:11:11] [05:12:08] heh [05:12:16] well the bug was filed in 2005 or so [05:12:27] I figured there might be people on the bug list that weren't on the mailing list [05:12:46] I still won't join the list, you know. [05:12:50] and I really want anyone who is a user of the xml or image dumps to be on it if they can stand it [05:12:50] I having trouble with the upload function on my wiki. I upgraded from 1.16 to 1.18 recently. When I try to upload a file, the screen just bliks but nothing happens. Does anyone know what setting I might have to change? [05:13:15] * apergos glares at Amgine|Berlin [05:13:34] that's where things like "hey, here's a new service" or "this service is going to be broken" get sent [05:14:07] I know. But I gave up on dump work as too fragile. [05:16:56] really? [05:17:14] * apergos wonders if they should feel vaguely insulted [05:17:19] 03(mod) Inline Styles: Portal pages need to be redesigned for mobile - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30887 +comment (10Phil Chang) [05:17:48] not that you're required to do work you don't want to do or anything [05:18:38] Well, mostly it was that awful query language I wrote for wiktionary, so not exactly a loss or anything. [05:20:41] ohhhh [05:20:48] bummer [05:21:07] heh. you never looked at that code, clearly. [05:21:23] no, I guess I didn't [05:21:47] I looked at ht's stuff back in the day and some of cirwin's but I don't remember poking at yours [05:22:21] You helped me out with some of it though, or hippietrail did. [05:24:22] I remember helping you fix something [05:24:31] but that's way different than actually looking at the code :-D [05:24:58] ok time to go try to wake up by walking around outside to see where the trance music that's been playing all night is coming from [05:25:03] bakc in a little bit [05:38:40] New review: Logicwiki; "{{Done}}" [mediawiki/extensions/Narayam] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9740 [05:59:34] New patchset: Liangent; "(bug 29552) Purge Squid cache of redirect pages when page it redirects to gets edited" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9877 [06:00:07] 03(FIXED) Squid cache of redirect pages don't get purged when page it redirects to gets edited - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29552 +comment (10Liangent) [06:01:28] New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9877 [06:04:21] Anyone know where to get a recent version of Extension:Translate? I've been wasting time bug testing the one on the extension distributor, which is outdated. [06:09:55] badon: git [06:10:31] liangent: I have no familiarity with git, but I suppose I ought to learn how to get the latest code that way. Can you point me in the right direction? [06:10:36] badon: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?p=mediawiki/extensions/Translate.git;a=snapshot;h=HEAD;sf=tgz [06:11:29] Thanks! Where did you get the URL for that? [06:12:51] badon: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?p=mediawiki/extensions/Translate.git;a=tree . and about this url? I manually constructed it [06:13:05] That's what I guessed. [06:13:13] looking [06:13:52] It looks like the "snapshot" link, that's handy. [06:13:55] thanks liangent [07:06:31] Hi, folks! [07:06:41] <_Meow> mutaHi [07:06:50] <_Meow> mutable_malachi: Hi [07:08:07] I've been looking for a little while but I'm having a bit of difficulty working it out - is there a way to delete a user and revert all of his edits? [07:09:58] <_Meow> mutable_malachi: Deleting a user can cause a lot of errors [07:10:10] Better to ban? [07:10:25] <_Meow> Yes [07:10:39] <_Meow> You can nuke the user's edits, though [07:10:46] Deleting them doesn't revert their edits, does it? [07:10:58] No, I guess it wouldn't. [07:11:16] <_Meow> mutable_malachi: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Nuke [07:11:24] <_Meow> Is this helpful? [07:11:36] Oh my goodness, yes. [07:11:46] Thank you immensely _Meow. This is exactly what I was looking for. [07:12:00] <_Meow> You're welcome [07:17:59] do people think bugs should be left open until after they've been merged? [07:18:16] (i.e. not closed just because a change was submitted in gerrit) [07:18:46] i think of change submission as a counterpart to attaching a patch in bugzilla [07:20:19] _Meow: hmmmmm. Unfortunately this might bot work. [07:20:22] There are over 600 spam users. [07:20:41] <_Meow> Oops, too many [07:21:08] <_Meow> Do you know what is the same for these spam users? [07:21:15] wow, they played straight through the night?! [07:21:33] _Meow: yep. user_id is between 2 and 662 inclusive. [07:21:42] <_Meow> mutable_malachi: Try https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:NukeDPL [07:21:42] It is all but two users. [07:21:53] <_Meow> (Or reinstall MediaWiki) [07:22:39] Is there a standard upgrade procedure? [07:23:01] <_Meow> Upgrade? [07:23:22] Yeah. This machine is running mediawiki 1.12.x. Too old. [07:23:33] git pull && php update.php [07:23:37] or something like that [07:23:39] I just want to make sure to upgrade without trashing anything. [07:23:40] <_Meow> !manual Upgrade [07:23:40] An introduction to using MediaWiki is at , see for information about copying it to your own wiki. More technical information for MediaWiki administrators is at . For an introduction on programming with MediaWiki, see . [07:23:45] Thank you. :) [07:23:46] yeah, see the links [07:24:04] <_Meow> @regsearch manual [07:24:05] Results (Found 7): bot, gsoc, install, rtfm, security, t_paamayim_nekudotayim, tabcompletion, [07:24:13] <_Meow> !rtfm [07:24:14] Please search and read the MediaWiki manual at before asking. [07:24:34] <_Meow> !botbrain [07:24:34] Hello, I'm wm-bot. The database for this channel is published at http://bots.wmflabs.org/~petrb/db/%23mediawiki.htm More about WM-Bot: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/wm-bot [07:24:35] mutable_malachi: anyway make good backups of the wiki first. ideally install those backups (with 1.12) in a new box and do a test upgrade there [07:24:57] !backup [07:24:57] See http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Backing_up_a_wiki for information about backing up your wiki. For restoring your wiki, see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Moving_a_wiki#Import_the_database_backup [07:25:30] jeremyb: will do. [07:26:33] are we in php 5.2.x or 5.3.x now? [07:28:11] liangent: see what i said ~11 mins back? [07:29:17] jeremyb: "do people think bugs should be left open until after they've been merged?" this? [07:29:23] yes [07:31:39] $ git grep -FnA 2 '== Compatibility ==' RELEASE-NOTES-1.* | fgrep 'PHP 4 ' [07:31:39] RELEASE-NOTES-1.19-395-MediaWiki 1.19 requires PHP 5.2.3. PHP 4 is no longer supported. [07:31:42] RELEASE-NOTES-1.20-159-MediaWiki 1.20 requires PHP 5.3.2. PHP 4 is no longer supported. [07:32:00] liangent: ^ [07:32:17] liangent: so, do you have an opinion? [07:33:04] jeremyb: I don't know [07:34:05] so is bugzilla expected to be for normal users, and gerrit for devs? [07:34:38] ummm, they're both for whoever is interested in trying to use them [07:35:01] and gerrit is probably expected to have a higher barrier to entry for noobs than bugzilla [07:35:04] IMHO [07:35:47] most people that use gerrit should be able to use bugzilla too [07:37:18] maybe hexmode has an opinion. but he doesn't seem to be around atm [07:39:35] maybe RESOLVED FIXED can also mean "we don't need more talk here"? [07:40:19] I don't think it should be FIXED. at all [07:40:28] we could introduce a new status for stuff in gerrit [07:40:44] or we could just mark stuff with the patch keyword. or needs-review [07:40:57] or make a new gerrit specific keyword [07:41:34] or just (as i've been doing): make a new comment on the bug with a link to the change and say that it's awaiting review [07:41:57] liangent: btw, i think /gerrit \d+/ doesn't link in bugzilla but /change \d+/ does [07:43:27] I expect a bot to comment on the bug when a new change is created... [07:43:45] [07:44:22] [17:34] so is bugzilla expected to be for normal users, and gerrit for devs? Brooke: behave, please. [07:49:16] Eww, default-sorted log lists [07:49:33] p858snake|l_: and my response to your quote? [07:50:33] "Quote"? [07:54:01] [07:34:38] ummm, they're both for whoever is interested in trying to use them [07:54:12] Ugh, why are there 50 different bots that have logged this channel? :-( [07:57:01] My kingdom for collated, searchable logs! [07:57:07] * Emufarmers smooches Amgine|Berlin. [07:57:43] heh [07:57:52] !sal del [07:57:53] Unable to find the specified key in db [07:57:57] damnit [07:58:30] 03 07:34:38 < jeremyb> ummm, they're both for whoever is interested in trying to use them [07:58:33] 03 07:35:01 < jeremyb> and gerrit is probably expected to have a higher barrier to entry for noobs than bugzilla [07:58:39] 03 07:35:47 < jeremyb> most people that use gerrit should be able to use bugzilla too [07:58:44] p858snake|l_: ^^ [08:33:22] 03raymond * 10/trunk/translatewiki/MediaWiki/mediawiki-defines.txt: [08:33:22] Add extension to Translatewiki [08:33:22] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/9700/ [08:34:21] 03(mod) English Wikipedia xml dump Category Stomach missing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37242 +comment (10Akshaya ATM) [08:34:23] Hello [08:34:32] <_Meow> Holeo: Hello [08:35:36] I got a problem , i installed wikimedia but when i go to it's url, it's only a white page [08:35:42] 03(mod) Drag and drop uploading - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/9133 +comment (10Erik Moeller) [08:39:11] Could someone help me? [08:39:26] <_Meow> Holeo: Yes, you can be helped [08:40:00] <_Meow> But only with more information [08:40:44] !blankpages | Holeo [08:40:52] !500 | Holeo [08:40:52] Holeo: the HTTP error code for an internal server error. It is rarely triggered by mediawiki itself and is more commonly a result of a faulty PHP setup or invalid or illegal options in htaccess. See Apache's error log for details. [08:41:39] thanks [08:49:50] 03(mod) Remove Russian fallback for Ukrainian language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37314 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [08:50:24] @RajeshPandey hi [08:50:43] @Tanmay: Hi Tanmay welcome to IRC :) [08:51:15] @RajeshPandey : Thanks! Let the hacking begin :) [08:56:59] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "[FileRepo] Fixed file move data-loss race condition." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9878 [08:57:49] 03(mod) Images permanently disappear when renaming files on Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36440 +comment (10Aaron Schulz) [08:59:00] New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9878 [09:09:37] Change abandoned: J?r?mie Roquet; "Was only a test." [test/mediawiki/extensions/examples] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9729 [09:10:21] New review: Reedy; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9870 [09:10:23] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9870 [09:11:31] New patchset: GWicke; "Some more web service tweaks" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9880 [09:11:52] New review: GWicke; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9880 [09:11:54] Change merged: GWicke; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9880 [09:16:55] 03(mod) Remove Russian fallback for Ukrainian language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37314 +comment (10Anatoliy Goncharov) [09:20:48] New patchset: Reedy; "Update to CLDR 21.0.1 release" [mediawiki/extensions/cldr] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9881 [09:27:42] any qrpedians at the hackathon? [09:31:01] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "Reduced some master queries by adding flags to Revision functions." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8563 [09:33:01] New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8563 [09:33:47] New patchset: Ross Andrews; "Added WikiText Lua module" [mediawiki/extensions/Scribunto] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9882 [09:34:49] New patchset: Reedy; "Update to CLDR 21.0.1 release" [mediawiki/extensions/cldr] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9881 [09:38:58] New review: Dereckson; "Another approach could be to fully localize this string, so the order of the elements could also be ..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9842 [09:39:37] New review: Siebrand; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/cldr] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9881 [09:39:40] New patchset: GWicke; "Revert to line diff, word diff explodes on some pages" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9883 [09:39:40] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/cldr] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9881 [09:39:54] New review: GWicke; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9883 [09:39:56] Change merged: GWicke; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9883 [09:40:46] New review: Siebrand; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/cldr] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9813 [09:40:48] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/cldr] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9813 [09:43:31] New review: Reedy; "Variables is vague" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9866 [09:45:50] Reedy: in the mood for a shell req? ;) https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9874 [09:46:58] err, i guess that should have been in #-tech. that's what i get for being awake at this hr [09:47:13] wifi sucks [09:47:32] jeremyb: I can't approve that [09:47:45] Or is that what hashar setup.. [09:47:54] I've no idea if that repo is even in use [09:47:58] * jeremyb is slightly confused? [09:48:05] ahhh. that's a very good question! [09:48:23] i see no hashar here [09:48:35] He's across the table from me [09:48:38] also having wifi issues [09:48:53] you could invent a new protocol in the meantime? [09:48:57] or tether? ;P [09:49:03] £1.50/MB [09:49:19] my de SIM is probably expired by now [09:49:37] (haven't charged it since july) [09:50:01] I never bother with local sims [09:50:16] New review: Siebrand; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9839 [09:50:17] * jeremyb has been happy w/ getting local SIMs [09:51:06] if i carried a second phone around, it'd probably be alright [09:51:53] New review: Siebrand; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9838 [09:52:35] 03(mod) Inline styles in wikitext cause problems on mobile site and app - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35704 +comment (10Jon) [09:53:17] New review: Siebrand; "There's probably a merge conflict, because some other patch was merged with lines of code in the sam..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9766 [09:54:18] Reedy: Don't you have a local sim for when your in SF? [09:54:23] New review: Siebrand; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/WikidataRepo] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9814 [09:54:25] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/WikidataRepo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9814 [09:54:53] 03(mod) User preference for HTTP vs HTTPS while logged in - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29898 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [09:56:16] New review: Aaron Schulz; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9521 [09:56:19] Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9521 [09:57:53] New review: Aaron Schulz; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9608 [09:57:56] Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9608 [09:59:14] Reedy: so are you able to query hashar over an analog medium? [09:59:47] New review: Aaron Schulz; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9639 [09:59:49] Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9639 [09:59:51] That requires effort [10:00:03] lol [10:00:29] New patchset: Siebrand; "Remove title case." [mediawiki/extensions/WikidataClient] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9884 [10:00:44] * jeremyb cries a little [10:00:54] To quote guillom, https://twitter.com/gpaumier/status/208849462850891777 [10:00:57] * jeremyb tries to cherry pick 9766 [10:01:14] :) [10:01:20] ;) [10:02:13] guillom: How much did that awesome looking camera cost btw? [10:02:25] Lcawte: a lot. [10:03:33] guillom: you are ment to price cameras in relation to prices of body organs these days [10:03:46] Ah. [10:03:54] I quite like my body organs, to be honest. [10:03:57] If you have to ask, you probably can't afford it [10:04:13] And as much as I like my cameras, I value the integrity of my body more. [10:04:40] YuviPanda: can you please provide resources regarding detailed information on MW extension development? [10:04:42] I probably can't afford anything, oh, wait, that makes a lot of sense [10:05:18] Lcawte: My bank account can't even handle a mcdonalds meal atm [10:05:24] Same! [10:06:18] New review: Aaron Schulz; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9517 [10:06:20] Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9517 [10:06:29] My wallet, can, I've only spent 30 euros this weekend... that means I need to spend 60 euros in the airport tomorrow morning :/ [10:06:54] "need" [10:07:02] Lcawte: you should have not drink that vanilla coke all time [10:07:05] no point wasting it [10:07:31] but vanilla coke is addictive [10:07:35] Reedy: Fine, I'll save it for the next time I want to go to burger king... in other words, it'll sit in my house forever... [10:07:40] New review: Aaron Schulz; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9638 [10:08:03] You could change it back at a horrific transfer rate [10:08:37] Yeah, but then I'd just buy a new PSU... and like... my computer could run at more than snails pace... [10:08:46] I'm not sure if I've got much sterling [10:09:08] New review: Aaron Schulz; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9518 [10:09:10] Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9518 [10:10:32] I have around 15... because I brought toothpaste and showergel at heathrow... and because I was looking at the fact my gate was open and looked at the opening time, which I got confused with boarding time... [10:11:17] Which reminds me, I need to print off my boarding pass for tomorrow morning at some point, also bother Roan about how getting to TXL in the morning. [10:11:42] Lcawte: you can ask the german staffers about the boarding pass [10:11:54] and getting to TXL means getting in X9 or 109 again [10:12:02] valhalla1w: You printed yours out here didn't you? :P [10:12:43] Lcawte: I asked about it yesterday and the response was 'send me the boarding pass via email and I'll make sure it's here tomorrow' [10:12:55] Ah [10:13:14] yeah, they've got a couple of printers [10:13:41] I wonder if the hostel do wake up calls, because that'll heavily influence my going to sleep or not decision [10:14:09] New review: Aaron Schulz; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9723 [10:14:11] Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9723 [10:18:10] New patchset: Jeremyb; "(bug 37178) Allow pagination link l10n" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9766 [10:20:08] New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9766 [10:21:09] Lcawte: hostel most probably do wake up call [10:21:21] yay, it's a hashar! [10:21:24] Lcawte: I have never heard of hostel not doing that [10:21:30] jeremyb: hi ;D [10:21:39] jeremyb: are you attending the hackathon ? [10:21:42] is the apache configs repo usable? is it the canonical store? [10:21:45] i'm in NYC [10:21:53] ohh NYC Is a cool city too [10:21:54] ;) [10:21:58] it is! [10:22:07] the apache configs come from production iirc [10:22:16] I am not sure we have really used it so far [10:22:21] cause apache confs rarerly change [10:22:26] ok... [10:22:34] I *Might* be able to sync / deploy changes on Apaches [10:22:47] but I would prefer someone from ops to look at it / do the sync [10:23:09] there was some question about whether 9874 could be accepted or if it was still only half moved to git [10:23:54] I have just checked, my free last changes were not updated/fetched on fenari ;-D [10:24:03] (fenari being the host we used to apply configuration to cluster) [10:24:25] New review: Jeremyb; "merge conflict was with Siebrand (Ie35a8b91815146)" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9766 [10:24:37] damnit gerrit [10:24:40] i'm going to stab you [10:24:50] when i put in a new line i want a new line! [10:24:52] understand? [10:25:06] ;) [10:25:09] in comments ? [10:25:16] last gerrit-wm msg above [10:25:53] and i can't even edit my msg to fix it! [10:26:41] New review: Siebrand; "Approving this. Will probably be extended in the future to make some more fine-grained control possi..." [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9850 [10:26:43] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9850 [10:26:45] jeremyb: the wikidata redirect is fine [10:26:47] hashar: anyway, can you tell me what else i need to do for 9874 or do we just need to find someone from ops? [10:26:52] would need a ops to review that [10:26:59] and I have no idea where they are actually [10:27:45] let me look at the Berlin rooms [10:28:41] Sakth: are you still looking for information regarding extensions? [10:29:37] jeremyb: and indeed, we need an op ;-D [10:29:42] heh [10:29:47] I can't merge things in that repo [10:30:04] and most probably, I am no more allowed to reload our Apaches [10:30:16] but at least gerrit is the right way to make changes now then? not e.g. just bugzilla [10:30:40] hashar: i'm slightly confused about how much power you have ;P i guess i could ask admins.pp [10:30:41] you can probably skip bugzilla entirely [10:30:53] well I just have some basic shell access [10:30:56] no root [10:31:13] and lot of machines I have no access to anymore (squids, sql servers, lvs boxes ...) [10:31:40] which is a good thing ;-D [10:31:48] brb, going to try to catch some op [10:32:03] Amgine|Berlin: what does that mean? [10:32:15] does zwinger even exist anymore? [10:32:37] hashar: apparently you're a mortal and a jenkinser [10:32:43] sakth> YuviPanda: can you please provide resources regarding detailed information on MW extension development? [10:33:07] Yeah... I've got about 9 euros worth of sterling.. [10:33:48] Hi [10:34:03] Hello? [10:34:16] [10:34:33] someone knows if mutante is in venue [10:34:47] Reedy: So thats what, like 7 or 8 £? [10:35:08] Where can I leave an improvement suggestion for MediaWiki? Can I do that here? [10:35:37] New review: Siebrand; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9766 [10:35:40] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9766 [10:36:07] petan|hackaton: let me know if you'll see him [10:36:15] Daffy_: We use https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org to make enhancement requests. [10:36:32] Ok, thanks [10:36:35] yw [10:36:36] Amgine|Berlin: yeah I am still looking for that [10:38:16] can we voice gerrit-wm ? [10:38:22] !hacker | sakth [10:38:22] sakth: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_become_a_MediaWiki_hacker [10:38:37] How do I use bugzilla to make an enhancement request? [10:38:55] "Enter a new bug report"? [10:39:18] Yes [10:39:41] (bug reports can also be enhancements) [10:39:44] Amgine|Berlin: yeah I have seen that ,but I am stuck i some concepts and I am not clear with http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Developing_extensions [10:39:46] By the way, are there counters in mediawiki? [10:40:15] Daffy_: by default, yes, but they can be turned off (as they are on Wikimedia Projects) [10:40:19] I mean, can I create a counter if I want to number things on a page, for example figures? [10:40:21] sakth: Which concepts? [10:40:42] Daffy_: no, but there are extensions that allow you to use "variables" like this [10:40:51] Amgine|Berlin: like hooks [10:40:58] not sure i'd recommend them though, they tend to be pretty ugly hacks [10:41:18] Doesn't the user have to install them for it to work? [10:41:29] sakth: I have never written a hook, but go ahead and ask your question as others certainly have and may be able to help. [10:41:32] I mean, they are nothing that is generated into the html code? [10:42:02] Daffy_: the wiki's owner woulkd install them. then they would generate html code [10:42:16] New patchset: Siebrand; "Fix localisation issue." [mediawiki/extensions/EducationProgram] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9888 [10:43:32] Daffy_: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:VariablesExtension [10:43:40] (use at your own risk) [10:44:31] Why use at my own risk, what could hapen?. [10:44:35] *happen [10:45:53] sakth: you might also look at some of the existing hook extensions to see how others have implemented them: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:Hook_extensions [10:46:17]