[00:01:59] Good night. [00:02:21] badon: you would maybe interested by the new lua scripting possibility [00:02:34] Dereckson: yeah, probably. [00:02:39] Look if you like the http://scribunto.wmflabs.org/index.php/Module:MathRoman.lua syntax. [00:02:56] Dereckson: that won't be ready until 1.20+ though, right? [00:03:20] indeed [00:04:23] I'm working around my workarounds until I can get around to upgrading :) [00:15:47] binasher: so I'm probably pretty much down with that gerrit patch [00:16:00] ooh [00:16:01] * AaronSchulz messing around with consistent hashing atm [00:16:53] binasher: wiki,table tuples map to a subset (1 box by default) of the servers, so that getMulti is better [00:17:35] thought the latest patch is doing a dumb (hash mod # servers) [00:17:39] *though [00:18:02] poor fire [00:47:09] 03(mod) Make donate.wikimedia.org (FundraiserLandingPage) detect the browser language (in addition to the country) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37397 +comment (10Peter Gehres (WMF)) [01:00:44] 03(mod) Add French and Italian Wikibooks as an import source at Vietnamese Wikibooks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37457 +comment (10AmieKim) [01:17:02] binasher: there we go...ok, can you peek at that when you get the chance? [01:17:21] yup! patch set 4 = final? [01:17:51] I don't know if tiny random fixes will come up, but that should be last messing about [01:18:26] ok, i'll read through it all tomorrow [01:18:29] I finally made the table=>server mapping use a consistent hashing [01:18:39] I can't think of much else to do [01:21:13] AaronSchulz: as in all rows for enwiki.revision will always hash to the same server? [01:21:35] well, it can be set to be more than 1 [01:21:47] but the hash determines the first server, the others ones are just the next servers [01:22:04] ok [01:22:11] so for enwiki, you can have each table use 3 boxes or whatever [01:22:25] neat [01:22:44] I have know idea what the best number is, and is also depends on whether several large wikis compete on the same box [01:23:15] 1 is ideal from a multi_get perspective, you can get many rows and all the dependency keys in one fetch [01:23:46] but 3 or so is fine, especially with the pecl client [01:24:21] does the server selection play nicely with either of our memcached clients? [01:24:43] hmm, what do you mean? [01:26:02] oh, a new ObjectCache object is instantiated with a server list based on the hashing [01:27:32] binasher: btw how many gigs does each box have (I assume they are mostly uniform)? [01:28:02] * ToAruShiroiNeko imagines each box in a uniform <3 [01:28:12] sailor fuku! [01:28:14] i wonder if that results in extra connect overhead vs. having a memc singleton [01:28:47] i think the current setup is uniform at 1.5GB per, and when the new servers are here, it will be uniform at something much greater [01:29:04] 1.5? so tiny :) [01:29:04] i think the new servers will have 96GB each, so maybe ~90GB to memcached [01:29:24] they can't get here soon enough! [01:30:51] binasher: I think there are no extra conns for the pecl one [01:31:06] the Memcached constructer takes in a $persistent_id parameter [01:31:36] when persistent conns are enabled, MW always passes in __CLASS__ as the id [01:32:12] hmm [01:32:14] http://www.php.net/manual/en/memcached.construct.php [01:32:42] Hey again, how can I get an Edit Toolball like wikipedia have on there text editor? [01:32:53] is __CLASS__ enough? if there will be different servers depending on the wiki [01:38:43] binasher: I think our MW pecl client wrapper might be broken come to think of it [01:39:09] i haven't reviewed it yet [01:39:16] has it been merged? [01:39:19] yes [01:39:40] binasher: I mean in persistent mode (which we enabled in wmf) [01:40:03] using it with $this->client->addServer( $ip, $port ); as we do might break [01:40:20] we should check getServerList() first and what is needed [01:40:54] that makes sense [01:40:55] otherwise, duplicates keep getting added to a shared object and more connections are made [01:41:14] I see a lot of comments warning about this [01:42:03] that would be nasty, assuming the hashing would change as it happens [01:42:26] ok i'm heading home now.. will look at it more tomorrow [01:42:36] binasher: also, making multiple object cache s is broken too [01:42:57] the newer ones start overriding the settings of the previous ones since we always use __CLASS__ as the id [01:43:43] we should be able to come up with better persist ids [01:43:46] ok, ttyl! [01:43:53] I'm heading out too [01:43:55] bye [01:59:14] 03(mod) Treat 6to4 addresses equivalent to IPv4 addresses when checking user blocking - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37395 +comment (10slakr) [02:03:07] do i have to make an edit to the overall skin for the infobox to apear on the right hand side? [02:04:54] 03(NEW) FIXME: gerrit 10742 - Search + enter causes JavaScript error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37479 normal; MediaWiki: JavaScript; (robla) [02:10:20] 03(mod) Treat 6to4 addresses equivalent to IPv4 addresses when checking user blocking - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37395 (10slakr) [02:17:11] RichTUK: Maybe. [02:17:19] Do you want all infoboxes to appear on the right? Or just one in particular? [02:17:28] Skin-wide changes are usually the default, right. [02:18:11] all, Im using the default skin but the info boxes are showing on the left Brooke [02:18:31] RichTUK: Where'd you copy the infobox from? [02:19:20] i tried out afew from wikipedia [02:19:41] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.css [02:19:52] Search that page for the "infobox" code. [02:19:58] Then copy that code to the same page on your wiki. [02:20:02] That'll fix your issue. [02:20:11] Brooke, ok, thanky ou [02:20:27] 03(mod) Treat 6to4 addresses equivalent to IPv4 addresses when checking user blocking - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37395 +comment (10slakr) [02:22:03] 03(mod) Treat 6to4 addresses equivalent to IPv4 addresses when checking user blocking - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37395 +comment (10Jasper Deng) [02:22:23] 03(mod) Provide general means to map IP address spaces (IPv4 to IPv6 and back) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35542 (10slakr) [02:24:36] 03(mod) Treat 6to4 addresses equivalent to IPv4 addresses when checking user blocking - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37395 +comment (10Jasper Deng) [02:45:10] 03(mod) Treat 6to4 addresses equivalent to IPv4 addresses when checking user blocking - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37395 +comment (10slakr) [02:49:18] 03(mod) Treat 6to4 addresses equivalent to IPv4 addresses when checking user blocking - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37395 +comment (10Jasper Deng) [03:10:20] 03(mod) Treat 6to4 addresses equivalent to IPv4 addresses when checking user blocking - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37395 +comment (10slakr) [03:22:19] 03(mod) updateArticleCount.php script is broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37291 +comment (10Donald Lancon) [03:26:04] 03(mod) Article Feedback Page - Show the user's last post at the top of the page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36649 +comment (10Fabrice Florin) [03:43:17] 03(mod) Treat 6to4 addresses equivalent to IPv4 addresses when checking user blocking - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37395 +comment (10Jasper Deng) [04:32:50] 03(mod) key combination to make letter ಹ combined with other Consonants and for W = ಔ and Y = ಐ - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36752 +comment (10Santhosh Thottingal) [05:09:34] 03(FIXED) key combination to make letter ಹ combined with other Consonants and for W = ಔ and Y = ಐ - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36752 +comment (10Siebrand) [05:12:46] http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-18374279 [05:12:50] 'They are Americans, but not - as one of them puts it - "McDonald's Americans".' ;) [05:57:45] 03(NEW) Non-existing pages at the Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37480 major; MediaWiki: API; (lupo.bugzilla) [06:04:48] Change on 12mediawiki a page Project:Requests was modified, changed by Skizzerz link https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?diff=548905 edit summary: /* None (SUL) → Tweex */ done [06:05:09] since when did we get an rc bot here? [06:05:35] 03(NEW) Local IPv6 rangeblock on mediawiki.org does not work? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37481 major; MediaWiki: User blocking; (jasper) [06:06:34] 03(mod) Local IPv6 rangeblock on mediawiki.org does not work? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37481 +comment (10Jasper Deng) [06:06:48] ^ idk, this might be invalid [06:12:23] 03(FIXED) Filter source language signups from notifications - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36823 (10Siebrand) [06:13:09] 14(WFM) Impossible to select contact method - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37157 (10Siebrand) [06:13:44] 03(mod) talk page notification title appears in the originating wiki content language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37163 (10Siebrand) [06:13:58] 03(FIXED) notification language preferences may be saved as empty strings - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37165 (10Amir E. Aharoni) [06:13:58] 03(mod) talk page message's directionality is based on the target wiki content language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37164 (10Siebrand) [06:14:22] 03(mod) Special:TranslatorSignup should have "success" screen - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36959 (10Siebrand) [06:26:53] 03(mod) Rename MediaWiki-CVS list to MediaWiki-commits - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/19958 +comment (10Daniel Zahn) [06:36:44] 03(mod) Rename MediaWiki-CVS list to MediaWiki-commits - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/19958 +comment (10Daniel Zahn) [06:48:54] 03(mod) Add a lightbox view to browse media categories. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37478 +comment (10Daniel Zahn) [06:49:26] 03(mod) Add a lightbox view to browse media categories. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37478 +comment (10Daniel Zahn) [06:53:45] if anyone sees akshay online, please tell him to ping me on here or on skype [06:55:35] 03(NEW) Create Page: (Pagina:) and Index: namespaces for ProofreadPage in Dutch (nl.) Wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37482 normal; Wikimedia: Site configuration; (lars) [07:11:32] 03(mod) updateArticleCount.php script is broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37291 +comment (10Nemo_bis) [07:14:42] 03(mod) Date suggestion should extract time as well from EXIF data - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29470 +comment (10Nemo_bis) [07:19:45] 03(mod) oversight-l subscriber list error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/21928 +comment (10Daniel Zahn) [07:20:25] 03(mod) Add a lightbox view to browse media categories. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37478 +comment (10Beta16) [07:40:49] 03(mod) Language variant conversion for labels doesn't work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37461 +comment (10Nikola Smolenski) [07:46:40] 03(mod) oversight-l subscriber list error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/21928 +comment (10Thehelpfulone) [07:58:20] 03(mod) Language variant conversion for labels doesn't work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37461 (10jeblad) [08:01:09] 03(mod) Create Page: (Pagina:) and Index: namespaces for ProofreadPage in Dutch (nl.) Wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37482 +shellpolicy; +comment (10Dereckson) [08:03:09] 03(mod) Header dropdown in the toolbar cannot be dismissed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37393 summary; +comment (10Beau) [08:06:59] Reedy: What's the Nagios statistics URL? <-- https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37463 [08:07:18] 03(mod) Language variant conversion for labels doesn't work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37461 +comment (10Nikola Smolenski) [08:10:55] 03(NEW) ProofreadPage extension should handle its namespaces in a more sensible manner - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37483 normal; MediaWiki extensions: ProofreadPage; (beau) [08:12:05] 03(mod) Create Page: (Pagina:) and Index: namespaces for ProofreadPage in Dutch (nl.) Wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37482 +comment (10Beau) [08:15:02] 03(NEW) [regression] Toolbar API to remove buttons is broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37484 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikiEditor; (listenleser) [08:17:56] 03(NEW) Convert ext.wikiEditor.tests.toolbar to QUnit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37485 enhancement; MediaWiki extensions: WikiEditor; (listenleser) [08:18:09] 03(mod) Create Page: (Pagina:) and Index: namespaces for ProofreadPage in Dutch (nl.) Wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37482 -shellpolicy ; +comment (10Dereckson) [08:18:09] 03(mod) ProofreadPage extension should handle its namespaces in a more sensible manner - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37483 (10Dereckson) [08:18:40] Dereckson: no idea [08:20:54] 03(mod) Gerrit statistics - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37463 +comment (10Dereckson) [08:25:00] 03(mod) ProofreadPage extension should handle its namespaces in a more sensible manner - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37483 (10Beau) [08:25:00] 03(mod) Wikisource related bugs and enhancements (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35925 (10Beau) [08:25:01] 03(mod) Create Page: (Pagina:) and Index: namespaces for ProofreadPage in Dutch (nl.) Wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37482 (10Dereckson) [08:25:02] 03(mod) ProofreadPage extension should handle its namespaces in a more sensible manner - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37483 (10Dereckson) [08:25:45] 03(mod) Create Page: (Pagina:) and Index: namespaces for ProofreadPage in Dutch (nl.) Wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37482 +shell; +comment (10Dereckson) [08:30:09] 14(DUP) Header dropdown in the toolbar cannot be dismissed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37393 +comment (10Michael M.) [08:30:09] 03(mod) WikiEditor dropdowns should behave normally, closing when they lose focus or when ESC is pressed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32731 +comment (10Michael M.) [08:31:36] 03(NEW) AJAXy autocomplete for adding members to a project - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37486 enhancement; MediaWiki extensions: OpenStackManager; (sam) [08:34:01] Beau_: it seems deployment risks to be a little complicated ; see https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35629 [08:34:18] they already have one of the namespace the extension needs. [08:36:33] Dereckson: Author namespace is not required for PP, only Page and Index namespace. [08:38:09] ProofreadPage namespace business is very messy and it will be a pain to clean this up. Almost every wikisource has different namespace id for Page and Index. [08:38:31] Those namespace does not have canonical names, and not every project has english aliases. [08:40:33] I was planning to fix this, but there were/are more urgent bugs to fix. [08:41:35] 03(FIXED) Enable Extension:RSS on ua.wikimedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27706 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [08:42:31] 04(REOPENED) EditWarning: Does not appear when search box is used - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30101 +comment (10Michael M.) [08:55:01] 03(mod) Create Page: (Pagina:) and Index: namespaces for ProofreadPage in Dutch (nl.) Wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37482 +comment (10Beau) [08:56:23] 03(mod) Colour Contrast of text within the button ‘Post Your Feedback’ after input is hard to read < OH-AFT> - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37474 +comment (10mpkhosla) [08:57:10] 03(mod) Colour Contrast of text ‘See All Comments’ within the button is completely invisible - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37475 +comment (10mpkhosla) [08:58:02] 03(mod) Form submission error occurs that is not repeatable < OH-AFT> - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37476 +comment (10mpkhosla) [08:58:58] 03(mod) Feedback details on View feedback page are cut off for a single long string input > 1000 < OH-AFT> - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37477 +comment (10mpkhosla) [09:02:20] 03(NEW) Error message doubly escaped in API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37487 minor; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; (smolensk) [09:04:56] 03(NEW) Trying to hide many revisions at once causes a 414 Request-URI Too Long error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37488 normal; MediaWiki: Revision deletion; (arkanosis) [09:13:29] 03(mod) system users can't run cron jobs due to access.conf - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36206 +comment (10Daniel Zahn) [09:16:06] hello everybody, is there an extension which is like a "lost & found list" ? where i can post things like: found a watch..? [09:20:49] 03(NEW) IE8- 'Improve this page' pop up bottom right corner not available - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37489 major; MediaWiki extensions: ArticleFeedbackv5; (mohinder.khosla) [09:24:15] 03(NEW) IE7-Missing ‘Improve this page' pop up (bottom right corner) to add feedback - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37490 major; MediaWiki extensions: ArticleFeedbackv5; (mohinder.khosla) [09:24:19] Peter_Porka: just write it on a wiki page? [09:24:45] it should be an extra box on the main page? [09:24:46] Peter_Porka: there are extensions that make it easy(er) to post new sections to pages [09:24:58] !InputBox | Peter_Porka [09:24:58] There is no such key, you probably want to try: !inputbox, [09:25:10] gah. why is this case sensitive [09:25:13] !inputbox | Peter_Porka [09:25:14] Peter_Porka: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Inputbox [09:26:06] cool guys i think i can use this [09:26:15] thx alot [09:27:47] Daniel_WMDE: I like case sensitive stuff :P do you want to make in non sensitive? [09:27:58] !A is is not a [09:27:58] Key was added [09:28:01] !a is not A [09:28:01] Key was added [09:28:03] A [09:28:05] !AS [09:28:05] There is no such key, you probably want to try: !$wgserver, !1.19, !1.20, !?>, !ack, !adminsettings, !allowoverride, !ancient, !anglebrackets, !announce, !api, !ask, !audit, !autoload, !backup, !bellthecat, !bestcase, !blame, !bleedingedge, !bot, !botnoob, !bugzilla, !class, !colon, !console, !credit, !csshideheader, !defaultsettings, !deleteuser, !details, !domdocument, !download, !dpl, !editing, !emailconfirmed, !exclamation, !extensions, !externaleditor, !f5, !faq, !farm, !firebug, !flash, !gerriterror, !gethelp, !git-access, !git-review, !grep, !gsoc, !hdss, !hello, !i18n, !iamabot, !imagelink, !import, !importsources, !instantcommons, !interwiki, !invalidupload, !javascript, !lazy, !ldapsupport, !line, !lsb, !magicwords, !memory, !mime, !multiplewiki, !mw-config, !mysql, !newwindow, !nosql, !notes, !nullpath, !numberedparams, !oversight, !packagefix, !packages, !parserfunctions, !passthru, !passwordsql, !pastebin, !performance, !phase3, !phpinfo, !phpmyadmin, !pipetrick, !plainlinks, !poem, !preventaccess, !purge, !pywikipediabot, !query, !readonly, !redirect, !refresh, !releasedate, !repeat, !resetpass, !resetpassword, !resourceloader, !rewriteproblems, !rollback, !rtfm, !safemode, !sandbox, !sarcasm, !sb, !schema, !secrets, !security, !semantichelp, !sequel, !sharedlogins, !shell, !shorturl, !shorturls, !sorttable, !subversion, !svnprops, !syntax, !the_mask, !thumb, !tias, !tidy, !timezone, !toolserver, !tooquiet, !topic, !umask, !undo, !unicode_test, !update.php, !useful, !vector, !version, !viewvc, !vulnerability, !webinspector, !webrequest, !welcome, !wiki, !wikimania, !wikipedia, !worstcase, !xampp, !mwbot, !wm-bot, !commons, [09:28:06] eh [09:28:08] !A [09:28:08] is not a [09:28:09] !a [09:28:09] not A [09:29:13] @help [09:29:14] Type @commands for list of commands. This bot is running http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WM-Bot version wikimedia bot v. 1.4.10 source code licensed under GPL and located at https://github.com/benapetr/wikimedia-bot [09:52:09] new version [09:57:36] 03(NEW) Link box should suggest page titles - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37491 normal; MediaWiki extensions: VisualEditor; (yyairrand) [10:05:47] 03(NEW) FF3.5-Pop up 'Improve this page' is missing from bottom right corner for Obama home page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37492 normal; MediaWiki extensions: ArticleFeedbackv5; (mohinder.khosla) [10:21:54] Thank you hashar for the wmbe merge [10:27:20] Dereckson: follow up on #wikimedia-be ? ;) [10:29:28] 03(mod) oversight-l subscriber list error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/21928 +comment (10Daniel Zahn) [10:32:56] 03(NEW) FF3.5-Form Submission Error for Drew Barrymore and Golden-Crowned Sparrow pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37493 normal; MediaWiki extensions: ArticleFeedbackv5; (mohinder.khosla) [10:33:17] 03(mod) Research and design search for Wikidata - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36417 +comment (10denny vrandecic) [10:34:33] 03(mod) Storyboards for linking Wikipedia articles to Wikidata - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36435 +comment (10denny vrandecic) [10:35:19] 03(FIXED) ` and z keys does not work in Telugu InScript scheme of Narayam - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36723 +comment (10Santhosh Thottingal) [10:44:34] 03(NEW) Chrome- Improve this page pop up bottom right corner not fully loaded - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37494 major; MediaWiki extensions: ArticleFeedbackv5; (mohinder.khosla) [10:44:45] 03(mod) Error message doubly escaped in API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37487 (10jeblad) [10:46:40] siebrand: ping [10:48:26] 03(mod) Can't copy error text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37460 +comment (10denny vrandecic) [10:49:04] 03(FIXED) Install Translate extension on be.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37391 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [10:51:59] 14(WFM) Error message doubly escaped in API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37487 +comment (10Nikola Smolenski) [10:53:28] 03(mod) Chrome- Improve this page pop up bottom right corner not fully loaded - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37494 +comment (10mpkhosla) [10:55:13] 03(mod) Can't copy error text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37460 (10jeblad) [10:56:52] 03(mod) Form submission error occurs that is not repeatable < OH-AFT> - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37476 +comment (10mpkhosla) [10:57:13] 03(mod) IE8- 'Improve this page' pop up bottom right corner not available < OH-AFT> - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37489 summary (10mpkhosla) [10:57:29] 03(mod) IE7-Missing ‘Improve this page' pop up (bottom right corner) to add feedback < OH-AFT> - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37490 summary (10mpkhosla) [10:57:43] 03(mod) FF3.5-Pop up 'Improve this page' is missing from bottom right corner for Obama home page < OH-AFT> - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37492 summary (10mpkhosla) [10:58:02] 03(mod) FF3.5-Form Submission Error for Drew Barrymore and Golden-Crowned Sparrow pages < OH-AFT> - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37493 summary (10mpkhosla) [10:58:22] 03(mod) Chrome- Improve this page pop up bottom right corner not fully loaded < OH-AFT> - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37494 summary (10mpkhosla) [11:06:33] 03(mod) Research and design search for Wikidata - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36417 +comment (10Daniel Kinzler) [11:09:44] 03(mod) Commons Upload Request - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37318 +shell; +comment (10Dereckson) [11:13:52] !A del [11:13:52] Successfully removed A [11:14:55] 03(NEW) Reorganize the repositories for the client, the repo, and the lib - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37495 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; (denny.vrandecic) [11:19:23] 03(NEW) Display a diff between two revisions of a Wikidata item - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37496 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; (denny.vrandecic) [11:21:25] 18 [11:26:01] 03(NEW) Automatically log changes to an item in the revision history - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37497 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; (denny.vrandecic) [11:26:32] 03(mod) Automatically log changes to an item in the revision history - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37497 +comment (10denny vrandecic) [11:31:16] 03(NEW) Headline and button overlap - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37498 normal; MediaWiki extensions: LiquidThreads; (bugzilla.wikimedia) [11:31:45] !foo del [11:31:45] You are not authorized to perform this, sorry [11:37:15] 03(NEW) Link lists obscure "Signatures" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37499 normal; MediaWiki extensions: LiquidThreads; (bugzilla.wikimedia) [12:14:52] 03(ASSIGNED) https://lists.wikimedia.org not reachable over IPv6 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22028 +comment (10Mark Bergsma) [12:35:56] 03(mod) Userpages using {{#babel:}} appear in a list over transclusions of babel templates. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33860 +comment (10Siebrand) [12:35:56] 03(mod) Localized language name as title attribute of language code-proficiency part - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31912 +comment (10Siebrand) [12:35:57] 03(mod) #babel has confused text when used on category pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34507 +comment (10Siebrand) [12:35:58] 03(mod) Allow language names in babel-portal message - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32398 +comment (10Siebrand) [12:35:59] 03(mod) "Users by language" shouldn't be shown if the system is setup not to use categories - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31115 +comment (10Siebrand) [12:36:00] 03(mod) Check that template usage is recorded properly with babel - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31095 +comment (10Siebrand) [12:36:02] 03(mod) lang attribute must be added to Babel elements to enable WebFonts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35366 +comment (10Siebrand) [12:36:05] 03(mod) {{#babel:ku-Arab-5}} in a page breaks MediaWiki when extensions IndexFunction and Babel are installed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28089 +comment (10Siebrand) [12:36:05] 03(mod) Babel::getName() should cache its results, or redundant calls be reduced. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28119 +comment (10Siebrand) [12:36:06] 03(mod) Automatically created categories should be categorized: xx-y in xx, xx in 's category - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31097 +comment (10Siebrand) [12:36:07] 03(mod) Babel configuration for fo.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37401 +comment (10Siebrand) [12:36:12] 03(mod) Custom templates with Babel don't have easy access to gender - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31094 +comment (10Siebrand) [12:36:13] 03(mod) allow configurable categorization by two- or three-letter codes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/23034 +comment (10Siebrand) [12:36:13] 03(mod) add new language code parameter for Babel-autocreate-text* messages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31134 +comment (10Siebrand) [12:36:14] 03(mod) Add parameter to remove header and footer - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31309 +comment (10Siebrand) [12:36:15] 03(mod) Pages are repeatedly recreated despite deletion and create-protection - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34318 +comment (10Siebrand) [12:36:15] 03(mod) Add configuration to use a single category per language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31311 +comment (10Siebrand) [12:36:32] 03(FIXED) thumb URL gives a 403 forbidden - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37034 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [12:36:38] 03(mod) Babel configuration for fo.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37401 (10Siebrand) [12:37:12] 03(mod) Babel configuration for fo.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37401 +comment (10Siebrand) [12:38:35] 03(mod) {{#babel:ku-Arab-5}} in a page breaks MediaWiki when extensions IndexFunction and Babel are installed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28089 (10Siebrand) [12:39:10] 03(mod) Add parameter to remove header and footer - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31309 (10Siebrand) [12:40:14] 03(mod) [Regression] HTML dump is missing all images due to new FileBackend code - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33878 +comment (10Amadeus) [12:40:35] 03(mod) oversight-l subscriber list error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/21928 +comment (10Snowolf) [12:41:06] 03(NEW) migrates Apaches boxes to precise - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37500 normal; Wikimedia Labs: deployment-prep (beta); (hashar) [12:41:10] 03(WONTFIX) Localized language name as title attribute of language code-proficiency part - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31912 +comment (10Siebrand) [12:43:13] 03(FIXED) Translate ext. release notes are not up to date - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37193 +comment (10Siebrand) [12:43:20] 03(mod) migrates Apaches boxes to precise - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37500 (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [12:43:20] 03(mod) thumbnail extraction for videos needs newer ffmpeg - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37217 (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [12:47:03] 03(FIXED) "Language not set" fatal error in Special:MessageGroupStats - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36990 (10Siebrand) [12:51:02] 03(mod) Article Feedback Page - Show the user's last post at the top of the page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36649 +comment (10Pau Giner) [12:55:28] 03(mod) migrates Apaches boxes to precise - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37500 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [13:22:38] 03(mod) oversight-l subscriber list error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/21928 +comment (10Daniel Zahn) [13:37:12] 03(NEW) add ParserOutput::addJsConfigVars - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37501 normal; MediaWiki: Parser; (Danweetz) [13:40:19] Anyone seen Jon Robson? [13:40:21] !seen jdlrobson [13:40:21] There is no such key, you probably want to try: !cache, [13:41:13] sumanah: jdlrobson was online earlier this morning, but didn't say anything in-channel [13:41:16] sumanah: he sent an email half an hour or so. And based on that, he's currently moving trans-atlantically in some way o another [13:41:21] ah yes [13:41:34] YESTERDAY [13:41:35] duh [13:41:37] never mind. [13:41:49] thanks both [13:47:34] Hello. My name is John (johnsanzi@gmail.com). I'm a real live human, a non-programmer, hoping for a welcoming embrace from your totally unfamiliar community. Am I nervous and afraid? You bet I am. I've already experienced the cold shoulder from one member of this room, who shall remain nameless. [13:47:41] I am writing to you because I'm trying to figure out (1.) how to make a tab that behaves just like the NS_TALK tab, and leads to a custom namespace that works just like NS_TALK; and (2.) which MediaWiki version would best allow this? [13:47:48] I've been reading MediaWiki code lately, and teaching myself about it. I'm seriously thinking about building a wiki in the future. Thus, I have been reviewing some apparently-abandoned examples of extensions that supposedly create tabs like the NS_TALK tab that lead to custom namespaces which function just like NS_TALK...such as these... [13:47:55] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13228 [13:48:02] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:DynamicTabs [13:48:07] ...unfortunately, these and other PHP extension examples, at MediaWiki's wiki, have numerous problems. And, they are years out of date! [13:48:19] I observe that Wikinews and Wiktionary have tabs and namespaces which are very similar, or identical, to what I'm looking for. Would any of you be able (state your fee, if applicable!) to develop a solution similar to what now exists at Wikinews and Wiktionary? Or, if you happen to be familiar with Wikinews and Wiktionary, can WikiWorks simply teach me--a non-programmer--what PHP extension, or other script, and LocalSe [13:49:07] 03(NEW) ItemHandler::getParserOutput() must not touch OutputPage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37502 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; (daniel.kinzler) [13:49:14] Which tabs are you talking about? [13:49:21] (on wikinews/wiktionary) [13:49:38] Thanks for replying, Reedy. To answer your question... [13:50:11] also, note, your message cut off at "or other script, and LocalSe" [13:50:21] 04(REOPENED) key combination to make letter ಹ combined with other Consonants and for W = ಔ and Y = ಐ - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36752 +comment (10Teju2friends) [13:50:26] ...On Wiktionary, it's "Citations". On Wikinews, it's "Opinions". [13:50:33] link to examples? [13:51:01] 03(NEW) The image links on Obama, Golden-Crowned Sparrow and Drew Barrymore has no ALT text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37503 normal; MediaWiki extensions: ArticleFeedbackv5; (mohinder.khosla) [13:51:21] 03(NEW) wbgetitems silently ignores any items it can't find. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37504 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; (daniel.kinzler) [13:52:16] http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/German_pilot_Elly_Beinhorn_dies,_aged_100 [13:52:22] that could do as an example [13:53:19] Custom namespace (very trivial) and https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Comments.js [13:54:06] 03(NEW) Report not-found items in ApiGetItems - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37505 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; (jeblad) [13:55:25] I was hoping it would be trivial, Reedy (since I'm not a programmer). Thank you. Now I'll take a bit of time to read that Javascript and see if I can understand it. Not that I know Javascript, but maybe I can at least see the patterns. [13:55:35] !extranamespaces [13:55:35] To add a namespace, modify your LocalSettings.php file, and add namespaces via $wgExtraNamespaces. A comprehensive set of instructions for adding a namespace can be found at . $wgExtraNamespaces can also be used to rename the default namespaces. [13:55:44] You can add namespaces with effectively 2 lines in your LocalSettings.php [13:57:21] 03(mod) Report not-found items in ApiGetItems - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37505 (10jeblad) [13:57:22] 03(mod) wbgetitems silently ignores any items it can't find. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37504 (10jeblad) [13:57:27] Correct. But to make the tabs to them behave like NS_TALK is more challenging, at least for me. For example, to make the tabs appear next to the Main and Talk tabs, and refer to the main article, and include the Main and Talk tabs in proper order while displayed, etc. [13:58:36] 03(mod) wbgetitems silently ignores any items it can't find. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37504 (10jeblad) [13:59:02] I greatly appreciate your help, Reedy. Now, as I mentioned, I'll read that Javascript and see if I understand it. As I mentioned, I am not a programmer and don't know Javascript, but sometimes I can see patterns and understand code anyway, roughly. [13:59:09] Sure [13:59:22] You can probably at least match some of the code to how it visually displays [13:59:36] Note, there's a lot more scary javascript than that around on mediawiki wikis :D [14:00:55] That's why I worship you guys, and ladies. Just wish you weren't all so shy (or disdainful) around outsiders. [14:01:15] MagicSands: or busy? [14:02:32] Good point, Sumanah. I sympathize. If there's any way I can help, let me know. [14:02:35] 03(NEW) Form label missing from Feedback pages of Obama,Drew Barrymore and Golden-Crowned Sparrow feedbacks OH-AFT - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37506 normal; MediaWiki extensions: ArticleFeedback; (mohinder.khosla) [14:02:51] 03(mod) ItemHandler::getParserOutput() must not touch OutputPage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37502 (10Daniel Werner) [14:02:53] 03(mod) add ParserOutput::addJsConfigVars - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37501 (10Daniel Werner) [14:02:55] 03(mod) Form label missing from Feedback pages of Obama,Drew Barrymore and Golden-Crowned Sparrow feedback - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37506 summary (10mpkhosla) [14:03:29] MagicSands: most people don't pay specific attention to this channel unless they're in a discussion [14:03:49] MagicSands: ways you can help include: [14:03:51] MagicSands: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:WikiProject_Bug_Squad [14:04:01] MagicSands: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:WikiProject_Extensions [14:04:51] We should start a developer amazon wishlist ;) [14:05:15] Of course, Sumanah. I read your user page and all the links from it yesterday, before I wrote to you (...I wanted to do my homework). But thank you again. [14:05:17] MagicSands: you can also help with testing and bug reports -- https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/QA/Article_Feedback_Test_Plan is an example of one of those sets of guidelines [14:08:55] 03(mod) Form label missing from Feedback pages of Obama,Drew Barrymore and Golden-Crowned Sparrow feedback - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37506 +aftv5-1.5 (10Sumana Harihareswara) [14:09:38] MagicSands: you might also enjoy reading http://www.aosabook.org/en/mediawiki.html [14:11:26] Thank you. You may not believe me, but I already read that too. Seriously, I wanted to do as much homework on my own as possible, first, because I did not want any developer I contacted to think I did not make an effort on my own before bothering him/her. [14:11:46] 03(mod) write a job loop to handle webVideoTranscode jobs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37470 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [14:13:00] 03(mod) Transclude contemporary template states to page histories? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34244 +comment (10Trevor Johnson) [14:13:34] MagicSands: Sure, I believe you [14:13:50] I know how it is on your side of the table [14:14:04] 03(mod) Add French and Italian Wikibooks as an import source at Vietnamese Wikibooks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37457 -shell +shellpolicy; +comment (10Dereckson) [14:14:46] 03(NEW) Babel configuration for tl.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37507 normal; Wikimedia: Extension setup; (bluemask2099) [14:16:30] Unrelated question...is it considered just good etiquette to use that "MagicSands:" preamble, like you're doing? Or does that actually have a technical function, Sumanah? [14:16:40] MagicSands: what IRC client are you using? [14:17:06] MagicSands: In most IRC clients, if I mention your nickname, then you get some kind of alert. [14:17:24] 03(NEW) Search string greater than 1000 char throws server error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37508 major; MediaWiki extensions: ArticleFeedbackv5; (mohinder.khosla) [14:17:35] MagicSands: that way, if you are doing other things and not paying attention in the channel (as most of these 246 people are doing), then your attention is drawn to the conversation. [14:17:56] So it lets you multitask better. I can respond to you, alt-tab to something else, and know that if you respond to me I'll know to switch back. [14:17:59] MagicSands: it also helps to identify who one is talking to, Often I may be talking with 3 or 4 users at a tine [14:18:23] MagicSands: I'm on Linux and I use XChat, which has this functionality. Colloquy on the Mac does as well. [14:18:41] MagicSands: I haven't used IRC on Windows for ages! But I presume Windows IRC clients have this feature as well [14:18:41] Thanks for the explanation. I'm using Pidgin 2.10.4 (libpurple 2.10.4). It does not seem to be giving me any alert, when you do that. But maybe it would, if I didn't have the window maximized already. [14:18:43] it's pretty key [14:18:54] MagicSands: you might also try fiddling with the preferences [14:19:54] 03(NEW) not obvious you can only add links to existing articles - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37509 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; (lydia.pintscher) [14:21:49] The popular IRC clients under Windows are mIRC and xchat. [14:22:03] MagicSands: so, it's both good etiquette (which I also had to be taught) and functionally useful [14:22:13] They both supports the feature sumanah described. It's called 'highlight'. [14:22:24] i thought there was a mediawiki table to csv converter but i can't find anything on google [14:22:35] am i wrong or merely blind? [14:22:51] RichiH: I know a guy who did that in a shell script on #wikipedia-fr [14:22:56] fwiw, there are tons of csv -> mediawiki [14:23:07] MagicSands: throwing yet more reading material at you: the "meta be bold" stuff in http://blog.melchua.com/ (the front page, right now) [14:23:30] MagicSands: http://www.scribd.com/mel_chua/d/96240791-Meta-Be-Bold-research-journal-1 specifically has some observations about that use of IRC nicks [14:25:51] 03(NEW) Clicking ‘donate to Wikipedia’ gives no warning message before leaving the page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37510 normal; MediaWiki extensions: ArticleFeedbackv5; (mohinder.khosla) [14:26:21] 03(FIXED) key combination to make letter ಹ combined with other Consonants and for W = ಔ and Y = ಐ - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36752 +comment (10Srikanth Logic) [14:28:04] RichiH: I'm afraid it's a kludge [14:28:26] RichiH: it puts the table in a text file and then launch awk, grep and sed on it: [14:28:33] 21:35 <+Kyro> awk -F'[|]' '{print $2}' troisieme.txt | grep -Ev 'wikitable|}|=|-' | sed -e 's/^\ \[\[\(.*\)/\1/g' | awk -F ']]' '{print $1}' | grep -v "^$" [14:30:07] Sumanah: The first page of Chua's journal--which is all I've read so far--is intriguing. I'm already starting to question the neutral-point-of-view principle of, for instance, Wikipedia, based on what Chua says. But maybe I should just be quiet and read the rest of Chua's document before I get too carried away. [14:31:32] Reedy: don't know if you're still here...and I myself might need to leave in 5 to 10 minutes...but I am still reading that Javascript! Hey, this "trivial" stuff takes time, for a non-programmer. [14:31:37] MagicSands: "starting to question" seems like a reasonable thing to do! [14:31:44] MagicSands: I have a meeting right now, back in about 45 min. [14:32:04] MagicSands: and hey, NPOV seems like a reasonable principle for an encyclopedia, and sometimes not for a researcher [14:32:11] good luck, see you later [14:34:42] Dereckson: thanks, i will play with it [14:37:08] 03(mod) key combination to make letter ಹ combined with other Consonants and for W = ಔ and Y = ಐ - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36752 +comment (10Teju2friends) [14:37:59] Dereckson: that exports parts [14:38:10] not the whole table [14:39:04] RichiH: I wonder if he didn't tested that with some infoboxes code, so it would be for a template and not a table [14:40:37] 03(mod) parserTests.php doesn't like git - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35648 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [14:48:59] is there some LAMP + squid tweaking guide for high traffic MW wikis? [14:50:37] chombium: hmm, it might be this kind of http://wikitech.wikimedia.org/view/Varnish [14:51:27] chombium: and there is a squid page there as well how its done for wp [14:54:20] mutante: the whole setup that I have works good [14:54:26] !performance [14:54:26] [14:54:35] mutante: but the thing that I have is that when I test the server load with top, server load gets really high 50-80 when there are many requests [14:54:50] That'll do the LAMP side of things [14:54:52] !cache [14:54:52] General information about caches can be seen at , for configuration settings see [14:55:31] 03(mod) not obvious you can only add links to existing articles - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37509 +comment (10Dereckson) [14:59:07] chombium: mediawiki without caches is IMHO unusable [14:59:22] it's really slow without MC at least [14:59:54] petan: right, I felt that, it's really painful. [15:00:06] even my dev installation on my own pc which is being used only by me from same pc is slow :) [15:01:04] MC improves the performance a lot [15:01:09] just installing apc makes a big difference [15:01:10] * Reedy coughs [15:01:15] that too [15:05:27] petan: I have mw 1.17.0, with memcached as a main cache and squid as proxy cache server on lamp, so I think I did it good, but in case there are many request the server average load goes sky high [15:05:59] load of squid or apache? [15:06:18] apache, too many requests [15:06:34] that is weird, are you sure that squid is properly configured? [15:06:40] because that thing is really hard to set up [15:07:04] sometimes it just forward requests to apache without caching anything [15:07:16] if it's not properly configured [15:07:55] I mean, if there aren't too many pages on your wiki, it's very unlike that every hit would require apache to do something [15:08:18] only edits / logged in users would probably need apache to do something [15:13:11] * sumanah updates  [15:13:12] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_engineering_report/2012/May [15:13:22] should we change the installer to say, use of cc-*-nc-* is discouraged [15:13:26] hey Lcawte when are you going to set a date for your next hackathon? [15:13:32] because it creates lots of non-free content [15:14:04] before cc was introduced, many mediawiki sites are using GFDL [15:14:14] and now, they use cc-by-nc-sa [15:14:21] petan: the only thing that I've experienced with squid is that I'm using the Accept-Encoding header and the page ulr as hash id for squid and Chrome sends different value for it, so the pages are cached twice [15:14:27] sumanah: if you needed to have changes to these reports in this channel, you can just insert it to feed of wm-bot, it can report changes to pages [15:14:51] petan: no, that would be too noisy. [15:14:53] but on other hand some people could blame it for spamming [15:15:42] chombium: there is similar problem for firefox [15:15:53] chombium: it doesn't really follow standards for caching [15:16:10] I reported it as bug on mozilla but they mostly ignored it, becase they think it doesn't matter [15:17:03] firefox sends requests to squid in way that basically always require fresh version from apache [15:17:10] I saw this patch for squid as well http://youtalktech.com/2011/04/08/squid3-patch-normalize-accept-encoding-header/ [15:17:21] there is an option for squid to forcefully ignore it [15:17:30] it will process only few parts of the accept encoding [15:17:31] yes [15:17:59] I am pretty sure they have similar patches on production because otherwise apaches would be overloaded [15:18:15] but configuration of squid on production is top secret :D [15:18:21] 03(NEW) Enable Transwiki import on GU:WP - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37511 normal; Wikimedia: Site configuration; (harshkothari410) [15:18:26] who knows what all they have there heh [15:18:41] god, i _hate_ the templating syntax [15:19:14] petan: I guess so, I don't have access to it :-/ [15:19:30] 03(mod) Enable Transwiki import on GU:WP - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37511 +shell +shellpolicy (10Krenair) [15:19:39] wait you don't have access to squid config on your site? [15:19:54] that makes it a bit complicated then [15:20:21] RichiH: it will get better with Lua [15:20:22] !lua [15:20:23] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Lua_scripting [15:20:39] sumanah: i hate lua as well : [15:20:40] :p [15:20:43] :D [15:20:55] then you are doomed man [15:20:58] RichiH: have you heard about preilly's work involving Scribunto & V8? [15:21:06] no [15:21:41] we should implement c++ parser inside so that you can write your templates in that [15:22:03] why in the world lua uses ~= instead of != [15:22:05] 03(NEW) State that CC with nd and nc are discouraged in the installer - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37512 normal; MediaWiki: Installer; (liangent) [15:22:05] what i don't get is why i need to define _tons_ of crud just to make it not print {{{foo}}} in case there is no 'foo = bar' [15:22:07] RichiH: I could be wrong, but I believe preilly is making it so you can do templating in JS [15:22:11] ~ is not [15:22:18] ~ == ! [15:22:20] 03(mod) State that CC licenses with nd and/or nc are discouraged in the installer - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37512 summary (10Liangent) [15:22:28] ok, but != is used in so many languages [15:22:33] indeed [15:22:34] why they use something else [15:22:39] it's confusing [15:22:42] 03(mod) Babel configuration for tl.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37507 +shell (10Krenair) [15:22:43] <> [15:22:49] 03(mod) State that CC licenses with nd and/or nc are discouraged in the installer - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37512 +design (10Sumana Harihareswara) [15:22:49] heh VB :) [15:23:00] or sql ;) [15:23:22] really? I thought != worked in oracle, but maybe not [15:23:31] probably not [15:23:53] It's not like any of them implement the sql specification properly [15:23:59] heh [15:24:01] 03(mod) Enable Transwiki import on Gujarati Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37511 summary (10Shiju Alex) [15:25:45] just make {{{#?foo}}} behave as {{#if: {{{foo}}} | {{{foo}}} | }} [15:25:52] * RichiH mumbles [15:26:13] sumanah: Soon I hope [15:26:18] this template language is getting close to brain fuck [15:28:20] btw who is bugmeister now? [15:28:23] is there some [15:29:10] 03(mod) State that CC licenses with nc are discouraged in the installer - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37512 summary; +comment (10Liangent) [15:30:52] petan: no. [15:31:20] petan: we are hiring a new Bug Wrangler. There's no one in that spot right now. In the interim, I encourage volunteers to do the bug gardening. [15:31:53] petan: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Bug_management/How_to_triage and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28technical%29#Improving_Documentation_on_Handling_Bug_Reports have some information. [15:33:30] sumanah: ok, my admin right on bugzilla were removed some time ago and that makes me a bit incapable of maintaining wikimedia labs, huggle and other categories, products etc. so I am wondering who to ask in case I needed to change some config [15:33:55] petan: can you answer a question about pseudo namespaces for me? [15:33:56] petan: any of the other BZ admins? [15:34:08] sDrewth: I don't know :) [15:34:12] sDrewth: ask [15:34:23] sumanah: I don't even know who they are [15:34:36] petan: Thehelpfulone is one [15:34:37] I always asked Mark [15:34:38] at nlWS they have pages in a pseudo ns, Index:... and Page:... [15:34:53] the other WS have these as real namespace [15:34:54] sumanah: is it possible to request these permissions again? [15:35:33] if the namespace are created, would the pages in those namespace therefore automatically with the name then be in the namespace? [15:35:45] pseudo -> real [15:35:57] petan: what are you looking for? [15:36:02] Hello, after followin this guide: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL/wiki/Page_title_--_Windows_with_IIS7--root_access I get the message "bad request" when going to the /wiki page. I have tried different folders (including setting it to /mediawiki where i have it installed). [15:36:29] Thehelpfulone: someone who is responsible for giving out rights on bugzilla [15:36:43] petan: possible to request, yes. I noticed that we had no standard criteria for how to issue those permissions - we gotta figure that ou [15:36:47] out* [15:36:51] sDrewth: confusing :) let me think of that [15:36:59] 03(mod) Clarify temp directory - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24985 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [15:37:14] k, I so don't understand the back end mechanics [15:37:29] 03(ASSIGNED) Clarify temp directory - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24985 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [15:37:34] sumanah: Mark told me that he would give me that rights but he can't since he left... [15:37:52] petan: I need to help guillom with a deadline, back in 10 min [15:37:56] I don't really need it right now, but it would be good to know who to ask [15:38:07] + I need to go as well [15:38:13] sDrewth: I have to go, sorry [15:38:18] petan: how about, for now, file a request at the Gerrit project ownership page and I'll move it to the right place as soon as I can [15:38:30] k, thx [15:38:40] petan: fill a bugzilla admin to get additional rights :-] [15:38:53] petan: errr fill a bug in bugzilla to get additional rights in bugzilla :-] [15:38:56] 03(NEW) TMH: The play, pause volume icons/buttons are not visible - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37513 normal; MediaWiki extensions: TimedMediaHandler; (tauhida.parveen) [15:39:00] petan: then CC Reedy and I [15:39:27] guillom: 108 people got developer access in May [15:39:51] guillom: checking the # of volunteers now.... [15:39:56] thanks [15:40:17] Change on 12mediawiki a page Project:Requests was modified, changed by Tweex link https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?diff=549057 edit summary: /* None (SUL) → Tweex */ [15:41:18] 108 people is a ton of people [15:41:27] guillom: 6, I believe, were WMF people [15:41:31] all the outreach stuff start paying off ! [15:41:41] I know I have more and more patch to review from people I have never heard of [15:41:42] sumanah: thanks; I'll add that to the report! [15:41:48] (no metrics though) [15:41:52] guillom: some may work for WMDE.... this is a reason I am glad the distinction is "WMF and non" rather than "WMF and volunteers" [15:42:39] actually, it's "X, among which Y volunteers"; but I don't think it matters much [15:43:05] ok [15:43:19] I get pedantic about how our community includes many people who are paid to work on MediaWiki but not by WMF [15:43:30] but I can relax my pedantry for the infobox [15:45:04] 03(NEW) TMH: video files are not playing in Safari - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37514 normal; MediaWiki extensions: TimedMediaHandler; (tauhida.parveen) [15:47:31] hashar: does bugzilla have logs of who changed what settings? [15:47:36] no [15:48:35] most probably what Sam said [15:48:37] :-D [15:51:03] 03(mod) TMH: video files are not playing in Safari - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37514 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [15:54:07] 03(NEW) Empty Link in the content section below Wikipedia logo can trip web content reader < OH-AFT> - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37515 normal; MediaWiki extensions: ArticleFeedbackv5; (mohinder.khosla) [16:00:10] 03(NEW) Empty Link in the footer section at the bottom of web pages that can trip web content readers < OH-AFT> - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37516 normal; MediaWiki extensions: ArticleFeedbackv5; (mohinder.khosla) [16:02:06] 14(INVALID) updateArticleCount.php script is broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37291 +comment (10Donald Lancon) [16:02:25] 04(REOPENED) Create Wikipedia in Banjar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/25307 +comment (10Ezagren) [16:02:41] 03(mod) Adding watch option or watch by default using upload wizard - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31313 +comment (10Mark Holmquist) [16:09:03] 03(mod) updateArticleCount.php script is broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37291 +comment (10Platonides) [16:13:20] 03(mod) Create Wikipedia in Banjar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/25307 +comment (10Krenair) [16:27:08] 03(NEW) Request of additional rights - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37517 normal; Wikimedia: Bugzilla; (benapetr) [16:29:59] 03(mod) Adding watch option or watch by default using upload wizard - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31313 +comment (10Mark Holmquist) [16:31:13] Reedy: MaxSem: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Gerrit_project_ownership awaits your votes [16:31:47] Voting on what? [16:32:08] Reedy: new requests for project owner membership and contact the existing project owners. If the candidate gets zero vetoes and at least one yes from the existing project owners, then we'll approve the candidate. [16:37:15] 03(NEW) Tablet rendering of edit screen needs to use line wrapping, CSS fix - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37518 normal; MediaWiki: Skin: Vector; (philinje) [16:39:21] petan: so I just checked, it looks like Mark removed your access himself, so I'll CC him in on the bug [16:43:25] 03(mod) Request of additional rights - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37517 normal->15enhancement; +comment (10Thehelpfulone) [16:43:43] 03(FIXED) Create Wikipedia in Banjar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/25307 +comment (10Krenair) [16:43:50] 03(mod) Non-existing pages at the Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37480 +comment (10Rainer@Rillke.eu) [16:49:00] 03(mod) Moving files breaks hotlinks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35721 +comment (10Rainer@Rillke.eu) [16:51:14] 03(NEW) internal_api_error_DBQueryError when moving files - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37519 normal; MediaWiki: File management; (rainerrillke) [16:51:29] 03(mod) internal_api_error_DBQueryError when moving files - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37519 (10Rainer@Rillke.eu) [17:02:33] 03(mod) Adding watch option or watch by default using upload wizard - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31313 +comment (10Erik Moeller) [17:03:46] 03(mod) Adding watch option or watch by default using upload wizard - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31313 +comment (10Erik Moeller) [17:11:05] 03(mod) Adding watch option or watch by default using upload wizard - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31313 +comment (10Mark Holmquist) [17:14:33] !b 37028 [17:14:34] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37028 [17:14:44] !b 25307 [17:14:44] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25307 [17:15:08] Does that guy just reopen things and repeat the OP? [17:15:54] Thehelpfulone: yes I know [17:16:34] I talked to him, he had to remove some admins when he left foundation because he could no longer take responsibility for them, or something like that. He said if he could he would left it to me [17:16:39] Sounds like he might need some helpful conversation [17:16:48] Krenair: ^ [17:17:14] Thehelpfulone, can you find all his other rights changes from that day? [17:18:00] hmm, I can't do a history search of what he's done, but I know he did give me a list of all the non-staff admins in a log somewhere [17:18:06] Krenair: that is, Ezagren might [17:18:13] sumanah, yeah.. [17:18:21] Krenair: you want to do that? [17:18:25] I'll do a check, I believe I'm the only volunteer bugzilla admin left [17:18:35] just checking logs now [17:18:53] no, there are a few others, I think [17:19:03] ah, 1 other: River. [17:19:38] yeah, but they were staff at one point I think? [17:20:00] I think River worked for WMDE at one point, Thehelpfulone, but am not sure [17:21:05] yeah she did, she was a toolserver admin [17:21:22] he* [17:21:26] they** [17:22:24] 03(mod) Adding watch option or watch by default using upload wizard - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31313 +comment (10Erik Moeller) [17:22:47] ah I'm corrected, according to logs there were only 3 volunteer admins excluding myself, so Petan, Michael and River [17:23:51] Thehelpfulone, can I suggest you remove ez_agren@yahoo.co.id's editbugs permission? [17:24:16] looking one sec [17:26:04] sumanah, I sent him a very short email asking him not to do that again [17:26:18] Krenair: did you explain that he can come into IRC if he's confused? [17:26:28] Krenair: or otherwise offer him help & education? [17:26:47] Krenair: did they do something in particular? [17:26:58] No, I'll explain that if I get a reply, sumanah [17:27:04] taking away that permission is a bit of a last resort, talking and helping is much better :) [17:27:09] Thehelpfulone, reopened two bugs, copying/quoting the OP's message, with no apparent reason [17:27:25] Krenair: I prefer to give that kind of help ASAP. I'll email the person to offer it. [17:27:31] hi awight [17:27:41] that's not quite serious enough to remove the permission, they may just be struggling with bugzilla [17:28:08] I thought people didn't start with editbugs anyway. [17:29:13] awight: so you can log into Gerrit, right? [17:29:18] 03(mod) Adding watch option or watch by default using upload wizard - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31313 +comment (10Mark Holmquist) [17:29:57] sumanah: still checking, I have a volunteer acct but have not checked WMF acct [17:30:08] awight: so, let's get jargon straight :-) [17:30:22] awight: can you log into gerrit.wikimedia.org ? [17:31:47] Krenair: emailed the confused person with a link to https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Communication and a kind word. [17:32:13] awight: There is no such thing as "a volunteer account" in our systems so I just want to make sure you get everything you need. [17:34:16] awight, hey! [17:34:16] you can simply change your email in preferences [17:35:11] yes, awight, just change your email address in the gerrit.wikimedia.org preferences to your new @wikimedia.org email address. [17:36:12] * MaxSem still uses his @gmail.com address whenever he can [17:36:39] MaxSem: nice, thanks for the tip. I'll change email early and often [17:37:03] awight: It is ok to receive code-related mail at your personal address if you want. But if you are sending email about Wikimedia and job stuff, I personally would prefer that you send it from @wikimedia.org [17:38:20] Hi Sumanah. Sorry, my chat crashed. I think I missed you [17:38:30] rmoen: aha! I see -- thanks [17:39:29] rmoen: is Trevor around today? [17:39:35] 03(mod) Adding watch option or watch by default using upload wizard - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31313 +comment (10Rainer@Rillke.eu) [17:39:43] sumanah: if it is ok with you, I'd like for today to be a 10% day. As, we have a VE deployment to mw.org next thursday. [17:39:56] sumanah: he's here [17:40:01] rmoen: ah yes, the deadline approaches! I wish you the best of luck [17:40:04] 03(mod) Create Page: (Pagina:) and Index: namespaces for ProofreadPage in Dutch (nl.) Wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37482 +comment (10Lars Aronsson) [17:40:19] sumanah: Thank you :) [17:40:23] rmoen: sounds reasonable to me [17:40:44] sumanah: I also know that Trevor and Roan were hoping to do the same. [17:41:13] rmoen: I can understand that ... my only worry re RoanKattouw & Trevor is that they do need to prep their Open Source Bridge talk. And would you mind asking Trevor what's up with OnlineStatusBar? [17:41:30] hello TrevorParscal [17:41:35] hi [17:41:35] Hope not to take too much of your time right now [17:41:46] oh well, gerrit cannot register my new email address. Filed as bug 1436 [17:41:49] 1) you & Roan are on track re your talk? [17:41:49] no worries [17:41:55] (your Portland talk) [17:42:03] yeah, I've been doing all the work so far :P [17:42:18] TrevorParscal: 2) is OnlineStatusBar a treadmill? are you waiting on anything? is petan waiting for you? [17:42:46] 03(mod) Adding watch option or watch by default using upload wizard - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31313 +comment (10Mark Holmquist) [17:43:10] TrevorParscal: ^demon - awaiting your OKs or vetoes regarding the current candidates at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Gerrit_project_ownership [17:43:30] awight: well, Gerrit will at least still work even with your current email address in there. :-) [17:44:01] awight: ok, next step. K4-713 - you want awight in the Fundraising Gerrit group? I'll just put a note to that effect on the https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Gerrit_project_ownership archive page and add him [17:44:22] sumanah: Yes, that would be great. [17:44:46] Any idea how long that will take to get in? [17:44:51] K4-713: OK! about to do that now. Anything else you & awight will want/need that I can help with? awight I presume you have a bugzilla account [17:44:59] sumanah: Timo sort of took over with OSB (in a good way) [17:45:19] sumanah: moves fast! [17:46:01] sumanah: Fantastic. Thanks! [17:46:17] I will let you know if there's anything else we run in to. [17:46:23] K4-713: awight: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Gerrit_project_ownership/Archive#Adam_Wight_-_Fundraising [17:46:26] done [17:46:48] TrevorParscal: ok, where can I find Krinkle's discussion with petan? [17:47:11] * sumanah updates https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Review_queue [17:47:16] OSB ? [17:47:24] OnlineStatusBar [17:47:35] ah [17:47:37] I just OK'd Timo's whitespace fixes [17:47:54] I think this extension is ready to be moved to gerrit personally [17:48:27] yeah, we both did a review and a small pass with fixes over the code. afaik it is fully reviewed and fixed up. I did open 1 or 2 bugs in bugzilla that I think have to be fixed before deployment on production wikis [17:48:45] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Post-edit_feedback -- heh, sounds much like [[Extension:EditSimilar]] to me [17:49:01] they block deployment of any kind imho, but moving the repo into gerrit is fine [17:49:27] it's gone through UI review (by me) and UI fixup (by petr), JS/CSS rewrite (by me( and JS/CSS review (by Timo) and PHP review (by me and Timo) and fix up (by Petr and Timo) and finally more review (by me) [17:49:31] Krinkle: could you put links & blockers & so on into https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32128 ? because right now, it's opaque [17:49:32] sumanah: another Q, can you help me increase svn privs for "adamw" as well? [17:49:36] <^demon> OnlineStatusBar isn't in git yet? [17:49:43] awight: *subversion* privileges? [17:49:44] sumanah: ok [17:49:45] <^demon> Let's get it on the list so it'll get done this week. [17:49:52] yep [17:49:54] link to list? [17:50:10] <^demon> TrevorParscal: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Conversion/Extensions_queue [17:50:17] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/New_repositories/Requests and ^^ are the ones to watch [17:50:35] I can add [17:50:54] ^demon: new dates on that page would be cool [17:51:00] <^demon> Just did that. [17:51:10] the hand is quicker than the eye! [17:51:36] awight: for paper trail reasons, please follow this process https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developer_access/Subversion [17:51:49] awight: basically you send an email to a certain address and then I do it [17:52:03] 03(mod) Review and deploy OnlineStatusBar extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32128 -patch-need-review ; summary (10Krinkle) [17:52:03] 03(mod) OnlineStatusBar indicator should not use absolute positioning. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37132 (10Krinkle) [17:52:10] K4-713: awight: I guess some Fundraising stuff is still in SVN, huh? [17:52:32] Mostly, the *wikimedia* repo... [17:52:42] All our internal stuff is there. [17:53:09] We opted not to migrate until we knew git/gerrit was going to be solid. [17:53:20] hey there YuviPanda . [17:53:32] hey sumanah [17:54:01] YuviPanda: *something* is moving along in extensions review for deployment, even if it is not ShortURL! [17:54:15] shorturl is too! [17:54:19] TrevorParscal: I didn't put this in review or in bugzilla, but something else I dislike about it is how it displays the information "John Doe is now offline" or "John Doe is now hidden" or "John Doe is now status is unknown" [17:54:38] Krinkle: where were you reviewing this, btw? private email or something archaic like that? [17:54:50] sumanah: 2 reasons [17:54:58] thanks for your time TrevorParscal - I wish you fair winds in meeting your deadline [17:55:37] Krinkle: yeah, I suggested that the be moved to the far right and the sentence be more consistent [17:55:46] sumanah: because petan asked me last year and I was familiar with the code base (I did sporadic/partial reviews from time to time on it over the last few months) [17:55:47] sumanah: and recently because TrevorParscal asked me to review his fixup commit. which led to me being curious what the state is in general. [17:55:57] TrevorParscal: okay [17:56:30] Krinkle: that's cool because I am no longer familiar with that :D [17:56:37] Krinkle: please don't get me wrong, I'm glad you reviewed it! I'm just trying to ensure that this kind of thing is open & public whenever possible, for my sake + petan's + anyone else who wants to join in + etc. [17:56:38] I completely forgot how that thing work [17:56:57] sumanah: its all in the bugzilla thread and/or in svn commit-msg / code-review [17:57:02] (I hope so) [17:57:31] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32128#c19 [17:57:57] * Krinkle wishes we had a bot-t like bot in this channel that magically parses urls like the above and spits out summary/reporter/stats ike that [17:58:04] bot-t sits in jQuery channels [17:59:09] right, Krinkle, I had seen that review, and now I see the fixups in https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?path=%2Ftrunk%2Fextensions%2FOnlineStatusBar&title=Special%3ACode%2FMediaWiki [17:59:37] yep [18:01:09] ^demon: ^ tut tut, it publically mentioned a comment on a draft.. [18:01:50] 03(mod) internal_api_error_DBQueryError when moving files - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37519 +comment (10Bawolff) [18:02:23] <^demon> Reedy: Huh? Where? [18:02:43] New review: Reedy; "Might aswell publish and review this" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7979 [18:02:51] 03(mod) Phil's mystery Samsung feature phone misdetected as Firefox - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36029 +comment (10Jon) [18:03:10] <^demon> I saw no [18:03:13] <^demon> +o only? [18:03:18] oh, it's +q'd then [18:04:13] <^demon> Reedy: Sounds like a mistake in our hook--we shouldn't log when the ref is in the drafts namespace. [18:04:37] Phil has a mystery phone! [18:10:14] 03(mod) Review and deploy OnlineStatusBar extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32128 +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [18:10:14] 03(mod) Moving files breaks hotlinks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35721 +comment (10Bawolff) [18:12:48] hi freakolowsky [18:13:36] ohai [18:14:28] 03(ASSIGNED) Create Page: (Pagina:) and Index: namespaces for ProofreadPage in Dutch (nl.) Wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37482 +comment (10Dereckson) [18:17:34] freakolowsky: so how is your GSoC student doing? [18:17:41] freakolowsky: on schedule? any snags? communicative enough? [18:18:08] ahead, no aaand yes, quite chatty on skype :D [18:18:16] GREAT [18:18:19] freakolowsky: that's a relief [18:18:23] :D [18:18:24] 1/9 I don't have to worry about :-) [18:18:34] what about the other 8? [18:19:03] freakolowsky: in truth, I'm basically happy with 6/9 and need to check on 3 of them [18:20:13] binasher: it looks like MemcachedPhpBagOStuff handles persistence better than the pecl one [18:20:28] freakolowsky: Suhas, the one working on OpenStack stuff, just disappeared completely, and neither Ryan_Lane nor I can get him to respond. [18:20:31] it's on the socket level, so it should work sanely [18:20:36] :( [18:20:41] 03(mod) Adding watch option or watch by default using upload wizard - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31313 +comment (10Mark Holmquist) [18:21:18] Make all the patches! [18:21:52] freakolowsky: and I know I don't communicate enough with Platonides (although that's more ok because Platonides is Platonides), and I'm also trying to encourage the quieter students to have regular meetings with their mentors [18:22:12] weird ... was looking forward to see how that openstack thingie would come out ... schade! [18:22:30] binasher: we can always do md5( serialize( $params ) ) as the ID ;) [18:23:15] eh Platonides ... he could be mentor to himself :D imagine the mid-term review :D [18:23:29] AaronSchulz: what would $params contain typically? [18:23:32] freakolowsky: ha! yeah, I talked with him a little about mentoring. [18:24:02] Ryan_Lane: btw would you mind if I made a public appeal for Suhas to get back in touch with us? on the gsoc-discuss list, for example? [18:24:15] no. that would be fine with me [18:24:40] binasher: it has the servers and all the options [18:24:46] Ryan_Lane: thanks. [18:24:51] yw [18:25:06] I'm looking at MemcachedPeclBagOStuff::__construct() [18:26:13] another option would be to require a session name in $params [18:26:29] or "pool name", whatever you call it [18:28:49] Hi anyone care to lend a hand on a Media wiki problem [18:29:03] !ask | Duii [18:29:03] Duii : Hi, how can we help you? Just ask your question. [18:29:05] sure, go ahead! [18:29:38] in process of moving wiki recently [18:30:02] and upgrading from 1.4 to 1.18 then to 1.19 [18:30:31] some how the image upload system stopped working and the Users privledges system stopped working [18:31:13] We have had to tansfer each table in the DB one at a time due to file upload restrictions at the host and in php.ini [18:31:27] http://wiki.crygaia.com/wiki/Special:Upload [18:35:10] 03(mod) Create Page: (Pagina:) and Index: namespaces for ProofreadPage in Dutch (nl.) Wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37482 +comment (10Dereckson) [18:35:30] YuviPanda: what's the ShortURL progress? I didn't know [18:35:42] One of us should update [[Review queue]] [18:35:47] sumanah: Reedy is pulling it along. There's an email thread going on between ops. [18:35:50] nothing to update there yet [18:35:54] oh ok. [18:37:56] Ryan_Lane: sent. Hope I don't start a humanflesh searchengine wave of jerkitude towards unrelated Suhas Raos [18:38:15] 03(NEW) using {{WesterBuddhism}} template changes position of image in article - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37520 normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (sudoman) [18:39:21] 03(ASSIGNED) Format is "ZIM" not "openZIM" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37447 +comment (10Dereckson) [18:39:42] sumanah: well, it's probably a non-indexed list [18:48:32] 03(NEW) Change namespaces configuration - ku.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37521 normal; Wikimedia: Site configuration; (dereckson) [18:51:08] 03(ASSIGNED) Change namespaces configuration - ku.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37521 +shell (10Dereckson) [18:51:08] 03(mod) Change "Talk Namespaces" on the Kurdish wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37436 (10Dereckson) [18:57:55] Someone familiar with Narayam want to review these? [18:57:56] https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Extension:Narayam&action=history [19:03:27] 04(REOPENED) LQT autocreated talk pages are not deleted by nuke - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35127 +comment (10Nemo_bis) [19:04:43] 03(NEW) Change namespaces configuration - ku.wikibooks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37522 normal; Wikimedia: Site configuration; (dereckson) [19:04:43] 03(mod) Change namespaces configuration - ku.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37521 (10Dereckson) [19:04:43] 03(mod) Change "Talk Namespaces" on the Kurdish wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37436 (10Dereckson) [19:04:49] 03(mod) internal_api_error_DBQueryError when moving files - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37519 +comment (10Rainer@Rillke.eu) [19:05:43] 03(ASSIGNED) Change namespaces configuration - ku.wikibooks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37522 +comment (10Dereckson) [19:05:43] 03(mod) Change namespaces configuration - ku.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37521 (10Dereckson) [19:06:34] 03(NEW) Change namespaces configuration - ku.wikiquote - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37523 normal; Wikimedia: Site configuration; (dereckson) [19:06:35] 03(mod) Change namespaces configuration - ku.wikibooks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37522 (10Dereckson) [19:06:35] 03(mod) Change "Talk Namespaces" on the Kurdish wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37436 (10Dereckson) [19:07:46] 03(ASSIGNED) Change namespaces configuration - ku.wikiquote - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37523 +comment (10Dereckson) [19:07:46] 03(mod) Change namespaces configuration - ku.wikibooks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37522 (10Dereckson) [19:08:39] 03(NEW) Change namespaces configuration - ku.wiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37524 normal; Wikimedia: Site configuration; (dereckson) [19:08:39] 03(mod) Change namespaces configuration - ku.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37521 (10Dereckson) [19:08:40] 03(mod) Change "Talk Namespaces" on the Kurdish wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37436 (10Dereckson) [19:09:57] 03(ASSIGNED) Change namespaces configuration - ku.wiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37524 +comment (10Dereckson) [19:09:57] 03(mod) Change namespaces configuration - ku.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37521 (10Dereckson) [19:11:06] siebrand: for the ku namespaces bugs - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/showdependencygraph.cgi?id=37436 - can I submit ONE branch to gerrit for the 4 bugs or must I prepare 4 patches? [19:13:59] 03(mod) updateArticleCount.php script is broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37291 +comment (10Donald Lancon) [19:24:51] bsitu: hey, re https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/7986/ -- will you be updating that patch so the tests pass? [19:28:16] sumanah: yeah, I will fix the merge conflict [19:28:29] thanks bsitu .... this problem is bothering people on the site [19:34:01] ok, added some reasonable reviewers for some commits that were waiting [19:36:11] sumanah, thanks! [19:37:14] preilly: it'd be great if you could help with a few of these: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/dashboard/316 [19:39:55] preilly, https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log/upload/Preilly just below all the red links are a few that have unknown copyright status and bad names. please fix. [19:42:10] JeroenDeDauw: Dereckson wrote it [19:42:21] I do plan to get into this Gerrit thing at some point, but today's not the day. [19:43:04] hello JeroenDeDauw: thanks for the halp on ohinteret [19:43:10] ohinternet* [19:43:22] :) [19:51:49] JeroenDeDauw: so should I make a habit of adding you as a reviewer to SMW commits, if I happen to see them waiting? [20:01:36] 03(mod) Undoing reset doesn't work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32830 +comment (10Robin Pepermans (SPQRobin)) [20:02:09] JeroenDeDauw: I tested the code on http://mediawiki.dereckson.be/index.php?title=Special:SMWAdmin / you can create an account there if you don't have a wiki where you can rebuild data [20:03:39] wait nope, that's my i18n test wiki [20:03:58] http://smw.dereckson.be/index.php?title=Special:SMWAdmin is the good one [20:05:54] 03(FIXED) Create Page: (Pagina:) and Index: namespaces for ProofreadPage in Dutch (nl.) Wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37482 +comment (10Dereckson) [20:06:36] 03(mod) Change namespaces configuration - ku.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37521 +comment (10Dereckson) [20:06:42] 03(mod) Change namespaces configuration - ku.wikibooks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37522 +comment (10Dereckson) [20:06:44] 03(mod) Change namespaces configuration - ku.wikiquote - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37523 +comment (10Dereckson) [20:06:49] 03(mod) Change namespaces configuration - ku.wiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37524 +comment (10Dereckson) [20:09:34] 03(ASSIGNED) Change "Talk Namespaces" on the Kurdish wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37436 -shell +tracking; +comment (10Dereckson) [20:17:03] 03(ASSIGNED) Install Narayam in Gujarati Wiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37365 +comment (10Dereckson) [20:19:19] http://kareningraffea.com [20:19:57] 03(mod) Secondary and primary storage go out of sync on constraint violation in secondary storage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36431 (10jeblad) [20:22:22] 03(ASSIGNED) Enable Narayam for Gujarati wikiquote - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37385 -shellpolicy ; +comment (10Dereckson) [20:22:46] 03(mod) Modifying aliases for items - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36415 (10jeblad) [20:24:23] 03(ASSIGNED) Vietnamese Wikibooks: search Subject, Wikijunior, Cookbook namespaces by default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37340 +comment (10Dereckson) [20:24:37] 03(mod) Vietnamese Wikibooks: search Subject, Wikijunior, Cookbook namespaces by default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37340 (10Dereckson) [20:25:18] 03(mod) Setup a public demo on WMF labs of Wikidata - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36418 (10jeblad) [20:28:23] 03(mod) Error handling in the existing AJAX interfaces of the repo - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36436 (10jeblad) [20:31:56] 03(mod) Reorganize the repositories for the client, the repo, and the lib - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37495 (10jeblad) [20:32:37] 03(mod) Cross-dependency: WikibaseLib depends on Wikibase repo - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37467 (10jeblad) [20:33:38] 03(mod) Secondary and primary storage go out of sync on constraint violation in secondary storage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36431 (10jeblad) [20:33:57] 03(mod) Validate data structure - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36519 (10jeblad) [20:35:55] any suggestion for simple extension using to be used as demo for furhter development? [20:37:10] Change on 12mediawiki a page Project:Requests was modified, changed by Krenair link https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?diff=549151 edit summary: /* Requests for permissions */ [20:39:51] ok, processing https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Gerrit_project_ownership [20:39:55] 03(mod) Vietnamese Wikibooks: search Subject, Wikijunior, Cookbook namespaces by default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37340 -shell +shellpolicy; +comment (10Dereckson) [20:42:20] Looks good to me [20:42:24] sumanah: would you know me if the WMF Mingle application is licensed per seat or site-wide? [20:42:56] RoanKattouw: what is it that looks good? the people gaining ownership? [20:43:07] Yeah [20:43:10] Dereckson: I'm sorry, I don't know, but I do know that we let lots of people log in via "guest" [20:43:18] You asked me to look over it earlier and then I went to lunch without doing so [20:43:21] Sorry about that [20:44:06] sumanah: yes I know the guest/guest account. It weren't a dev related question. We're starting to think about what scrum project management solution to use in Wikimedia Belgium chapter. [20:44:22] Dereckson: a good question! maybe Daniel_WMDE has some answers [20:44:23] preilly, thanks for clearing that up. I've gone through and moved them to more descriptive names :) [20:44:36] Dereckson: I used to do a lot of project management, and basically, everything stinks. [20:44:51] (by the way Dereckson I'm sorry you and I did not get to chat more last weekend) [20:45:14] Are there any plans to implement MS-SQL as a DB backend at the moment? [20:45:17] Dereckson: Mingle is proprietary and somewhat expensive. Trac is annoying. Redmine, IIRC, isn't there yet. [20:45:41] Krenair: you mean, to support it fully? if so, mglaser would know more about that, he helped implement Azure support! and MaxSem might know [20:46:12] Someone's asked on the support desk you see [20:46:50] sumanah: yes I played with Redmine/Chiliproject and not really satisfied [20:46:52] * MaxSem|1612 doesn't want to know about MSSQL:P [20:47:28] Krenair: The Wikimedia Foundation doesn't have plans to focus on that as a main priority in the near future, no. Some volunteers are working on that, though [20:48:24] sumanah, any idea who? [20:48:48] 03(NEW) extensions/AbsenteeLandlord seems misconfigured - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37525 normal; Wikimedia: Git/Gerrit; (raimond.spekking) [20:49:27] hola, I've installed 1.19 on ubuntu 10.04.4 (not via apt) and am using apache and have shorturls configured. Despite following the instructions carefully I can't get past the login page - it keeps redirecting to URL/install/path/ instead of URL/wiki/ - does anyone have any ideas why the login button on URL/wiki/Special:UserLogin is incorrectly linked? [20:49:51] Hi datakid [20:50:06] Dereckson, hi [20:50:15] Do you have a LocalSettings.php file in your MediaWiki folder? [20:50:27] JeroenDeDauw: you're getting Gerrit ownership for Nuke & UploadWizard , I just enabled it .... https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Gerrit_project_ownership#Nuke_-_Jeroen_De_Dauw [20:51:11] Krenair: I'm checking [[Developers]] [20:51:28] Dereckson, yes [20:51:49] what short URL tutorial have you followed? [20:51:56] Krenair: DJ Bauch, "yaauie" whom I had not heard of, Max [20:51:58] I think [20:52:15] Dereckson, just finding it now [20:52:26] there are two [20:52:53] 03(NEW) Maemo Browser fails to redirect to mobile site - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37526 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend; (jrobson) [20:52:59] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL and http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL/Apache [20:53:19] 03(WONTFIX) Phil's mystery Samsung feature phone misdetected as Firefox - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36029 +comment (10Jon) [20:53:27] they are similar but slightly diff. I have root - it's on a local server [20:53:42] datakid: if you copy/paste your .htaccess or httpd.conf vhost configuration, I can see if it's or not functionnal [20:54:25] SPQRobin: congrats https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Gerrit_project_ownership#WikimediaIncubator_-_SPQRobin [20:56:06] Dereckson, http://pastebin.com/0LWWpBgn [20:56:19] * AaronSchulz wonders if FileBackendStoreShardListIterator needs fixing [20:56:27] 03(mod) Phil's mystery Samsung feature phone misdetected as Firefox - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36029 +comment (10Max Semenik) [20:56:33] 03(ASSIGNED) Install Narayam extension in te.wiktionary and te.wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37336 +comment (10Dereckson) [20:56:55] sumanah: ah, thanks :) [21:00:29] sumanah, okay, thanks. replied to him now [21:01:20] Hi, is there a non bug with image captions in 1.20wmf5? [21:01:44] 04(REOPENED) Phil's mystery Samsung feature phone misdetected as Firefox - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36029 +comment (10Jon) [21:01:45] hoo: non == known? [21:01:59] Danny_B|backup: yes [21:02:52] datakid: and when you go to http://wiki.mlhrd.lan/index.php you are in your wiki? Same question for http://wiki.mlhrd.lan/wiki/Main_Page [21:04:00] Danny_B|backup: I can't find one... https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Fragen_zur_Wikipedia#Sorry_f.C3.BCr_den_grossen_Abschnitt all images over there have a caption, but for some, it just isn't included in the HTML output [21:04:06] 03(mod) Enable Narayam for Gujarati wikiquote - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37385 +comment (10Dhaval) [21:04:34] datakid: If no, I would use this set of rules: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL/wiki/Page_title [21:07:29] Dereckson, yes, I'm in wiki, but I have "only logged in members can see wiki" - so after I click login, then it starts going apesh*t [21:07:40] I will look at that page and attempt, cheers [21:09:29] 03(mod) migrates Apaches boxes to precise - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37500 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [21:14:20] 03(NEW) Labslogbot bot is dead - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37527 normal; Wikimedia Labs: bots; (hashar) [21:19:38] 03(NEW) Messages for no/nb is failing in no.wp - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37528 normal; MediaWiki: Internationalization; (jeblad) [21:38:54] 03(NEW) Article Feedback Page - Filter Counts don't match actual listings - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37529 major; MediaWiki extensions: ArticleFeedbackv5; (fflorin) [21:39:51] 03(mod) Article Feedback Page - Filter Counts don't match actual listings - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37529 +aftv5-1.5; +comment (10Fabrice Florin) [21:41:27] sumanah: thanks :) [21:41:39] Glad to help, JeroenDeDauw! [21:55:40] i'm having issues with MediaWiki... [21:55:51] http://theopenglobe.org/wiki/Main_Page This shoudn't happen... [21:55:59] none of the pages are loading [21:56:01] database works [21:57:56] Frood, do you have memcached? [21:58:06] MaxSem: No [21:58:33] 03(mod) internal_api_error_DBQueryError when moving files - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37519 +comment (10Aaron Schulz) [21:58:40] (Can't contact the database server: Can't connect to MySQL server on '10.59.206.23' (111) (10.59.206.23)) [21:58:43] Frood: ^ [21:59:09] Krenair: You probably caught it in the middle of the the MySQL restart. [21:59:27] It's loaded now [21:59:30] Just quite slow [21:59:43] Krenair: Screenshot? [22:00:11] 03(mod) Make donate.wikimedia.org (FundraiserLandingPage) detect the browser language (in addition to the country) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37397 normal->15enhancement; +fun-com +fundraising (10Peter Gehres (WMF)) [22:00:35] I mean, content isn't loading [22:01:03] oh, i see what you mean [22:01:32] Frood, there's a problem with the skin first of all [22:01:42] Krenair: That was fixed with css hacks [22:01:54] uh, sorry. not skin [22:01:55] JS [22:02:05] But the database isn't taking pages [22:02:12] http://theopenglobe.org/w/load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=site&only=styles&skin=openglobe&* [22:02:13] s/taking/getting [22:02:57] 03(mod) Create user preferences for hiding CentralNotice banners - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33941 +fun-com +fundraising (10Peter Gehres (WMF)) [22:05:30] Frood? [22:06:15] Krenair: It doesn't look like the database is returning anything [22:06:26] I can log in fine, but all the pages are basically empty [22:06:50] 03(mod) Credit card form should not be replaced if we're already on the correct type of credit card form - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33422 +comment (10Peter Gehres (WMF)) [22:06:55] 03(mod) Credit card form should not be replaced if we're already on the correct type of credit card form - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33422 +fundraising (10Peter Gehres (WMF)) [22:07:44] 03(mod) Make better interface for selecting country and language in CentralNotice - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32761 +fun-com +fundraising (10Peter Gehres (WMF)) [22:08:01] (WMF) in his username seems redundant because @wikimedia.org is already there... [22:08:29] Dereckson, I'm following the new page you sent, but I'd like some clarity if ok? As per new instructions I've moved install from /var/www/mediawiki to /srv/www/mediawiki. What should I be setting the $wgScriptPath to? /mediawiki or /srv/www/mediawiki? I have DocumentRoot /srv/www/mediawiki in relevant apache conf [22:09:01] 03(mod) extensions/AbsenteeLandlord seems misconfigured - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37525 +comment (10Siebrand) [22:09:24] 03(mod) Fundraiser banner opt out needs an interface - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32471 +fundraising (10Peter Gehres (WMF)) [22:10:26] 03(mod) Fundraising banner text overlaps photo on Kindle Fire in portrait mode - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32444 +fundraising (10Peter Gehres (WMF)) [22:11:03] 03(mod) Improve detail layout on Special:FundraisingStatistics - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32443 +fun-com +fundraising (10Peter Gehres (WMF)) [22:11:50] 03(mod) Add comment field for campaign/banner changes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31689 +fun-com (10Peter Gehres (WMF)) [22:15:10] 03(mod) Provide the full matrix of wikis to target a campaign, not just "Projects" and "Language" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31036 +fundraising (10Peter Gehres (WMF)) [22:16:53] 03(mod) Allow searching for "all" on Special:BannerAllocation for a specific project, language or country - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30056 (10Peter Gehres (WMF)) [22:17:12] Dereckson, or should I be putting /srv/www in my apache conf and then /mediawiki in my $wgScriptPath? [22:19:21] 03(mod) Make banner translations get deleted when banners are removed automatically - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28903 (10Peter Gehres (WMF)) [22:19:37] $wgScriptPath = "/w"; [22:19:39] $wgScriptExtension = ".php"; [22:19:40] $wgArticlePath = "/wiki/$1"; [22:20:01] but you can choose the directory you wish, /var/www/mediawiki or /srv/www/mediawiki is up to you! [22:24:05] Krenair: ah, it's a tiny redundancy, not worth bothering too much about IMO [22:25:15] 03(NEW) Wikidata - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37530 normal; Wikimedia Labs: deployment-prep (beta); (ua31wiki) [22:26:39] 03(mod) Wikidata - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37530 +comment (10UA31) [22:33:31] 03(FIXED) Time-outs leading to double donations - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/26340 +comment (10Peter Gehres (WMF)) [22:37:50] 03(mod) migrates Apaches boxes to precise - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37500 +comment (10Platonides) [22:39:31] i suppose nobody has any idea? [22:39:56] http://cl.ly/0A3A0y2p3z1i140C4523 [22:40:06] there should be content there, not just a blank page [22:43:30] 03(mod) Send notification to account owner on multiple unsuccessful login attempts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/9838 +comment (10Platonides) [22:44:38] Frood: What's your question? [22:45:08] 03(mod) class="mw-redirect" for Special:PrefixIndex - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37452 +comment (10Platonides) [22:45:14] Brooke: The screenshot I posted says a lot. It won't show any content, but I've been able to confirm that the database works properly [22:45:29] 03(mod) Add campaign owners - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/25426 +comment (10Peter Gehres (WMF)) [22:45:33] 03(FIXED) Stomp pending processor will always run $batch_size times if there are one or more explicitly pending transactions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29519 +comment (10Katie Horn) [22:45:42] Frood: Link to your wiki? [22:45:58] Brooke: http://theopenglobe.org/ [22:46:17] http://theopenglobe.org/w/ actually [22:46:39] 03(mod) class="mw-redirect" for Special:PrefixIndex - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37452 +comment (10Platonides) [22:47:13] 03(FIXED) Enforce cookies on CC form - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/25343 +comment (10Katie Horn) [22:47:48] Frood: Probably a bad extension. This skin is totally fucked, though. [22:47:53] 03(mod) class="mw-redirect" for Special:PrefixIndex - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37452 +comment (10Platonides) [22:48:00] 03(FIXED) Infinite loop on users who dont accept cookies - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/25287 +comment (10Peter Gehres (WMF)) [22:48:10] Brooke: Yeah, it's fixed by css [22:48:17] It's not fixed by anything. [22:48:18] It's broken. [22:48:22] Screenshot says so. [22:48:25] I say so. [22:48:28] css doesn't work now [22:48:38] none of the content is being pulled from the database [22:48:41] I'm aware. So why are you saying it's fixed? [22:48:44] Oh. [22:48:49] Disable the extensions. [22:48:59] It looks like you have quite a few enabled. [22:49:23] 03(FIXED) Add donation ceiling and floor settings - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/25090 +comment (10Peter Gehres (WMF)) [22:49:56] Hmmm. [22:50:05] Brooke: There's another wiki that works fine on the same host [22:50:07] Frood: Why did you even install so many extensions? [22:50:09] Same database stuff [22:50:16] Frood: That doesn't really matter. [22:50:18] Your wiki isn't working. [22:50:26] So whether my wiki or Wikipedia loads is mostly irrelevant. [22:50:31] I think it's an extension problem. [22:50:35] It's on a VPS, same server [22:50:37] But you shoudl also prune those extensions generally. [22:50:43] should [22:50:45] it's a wiki farm [22:50:51] And? [22:50:59] Do you not have control over the wiki? [22:51:17] I do, but they all have the same extensions enabled [22:51:34] 03(FIXED) Fail gracefully when queue service is down - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24940 +comment (10Peter Gehres (WMF)) [22:51:36] You realize adding extensions has a cost, right? [22:51:45] In terms of both code complexity, maintenance and support, and speed? [22:52:00] Wiki farms can be customized to only load extensions on particular wikis. [22:52:06] It's not difficult. [22:52:15] It's mostly a matter of if $wgDbname == {}; or whatever. [22:52:38] Anyway, I can only answer your question so many times. [22:52:47] Frood: Amgine is one of the folks here who does a lot of wikifarm work, in case you would like to consult him. [22:52:56] Frood: Tim Weyer, who isn't around right now, is another. [22:53:22] Best of luck. Sometimes MediaWiki administration is a bit tricky. [22:53:52] [22:53:57] 'lots'. [22:53:59] sumanah: We had this problem before, it was always a database issue [22:54:04] but this time it seems not to be [22:54:40] Amgine: sumanah says you know more about wikifarms than me. ;-P [22:55:04] [22:55:27] Frood is ignoring me, so he'll continue to be frustrated. [22:55:48] I'm guessing that most of this extension list was an attempt to replicate the English Wikinews' list. [22:56:18] Amgine: you were able to talk with Tim in Berlin? Any interesting wikifarm-related plans or decisions? [22:56:33] Well, OpenGlobe is an attempt to fork en.WN community by immeiately creating the same social structures they were disparaging. [22:56:51] 03(mod) Uploading stuck about 1-2 minutes on "Finished!" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34997 +comment (10Erik Moeller) [22:56:52] Sumanah: Tim and I didn't not speak. I listened to him. [22:57:03] wow did I mangle that. [22:57:17] Just an extra word. [22:57:20] Tim and I did not speak. I just listened. [22:57:52] !!notXOR... [22:58:00] Amgine: Those structures wouldn't be possibel without the ImageMap, CharInsert, and AntiBot extensions? [22:58:00] Amgine: one of my missed opportunities; I meant to try and facilitate some conversation there. I also meant to talk with you, Tomasz, and Yuvi regarding whether, in your opinion, WMF should participate in UCOSP again [22:58:11] I've got a question regarding submitting a change to the mediawiki source code... [22:58:15] bruges: This looks like poor ocnfiguration. [22:58:19] nullspoon: Sure, just ask. [22:58:30] Brooke: I disabled all the extensions, same issue [22:58:36] Brooke: Thanks. Don't wanna interrupt you know. :) [22:58:39] sumanah: Yah, I have two nags from UCOSP to deal with at some point. [22:58:56] Frood: http://theopenglobe.org/wiki/Special:Version isn't even loading for me. [22:59:01] Frood: I have not read the complete scroll on your issue. [22:59:14] Frood: Is your host overloaded or something? [22:59:17] But have you looked through your LocalSettings.php for a php syntax error? [22:59:18] I modified two lines in Title.php today and my change allows regex to be used in the wgWhitelistRead variable so you can whitelist namespaces without using any extensions. [22:59:23] omg i'm going to kill something [22:59:26] Is that a change anyone thinks I should submit? [22:59:35] * Brooke offers an Amgine. [22:59:55] 03(mod) Fundraiserportal messages should use SITENAME - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/19897 +comment (10Peter Gehres (WMF)) [23:00:07] nullspoon: Do you like Git? [23:00:08] [23:00:17] willingly [23:00:21] Brooke: I'm a fan. [23:00:37] Brooke: Should I just go ahead and submit it to see if it is accepted? [23:00:39] nullspoon: Wikimedia/MediaWiki just switched to Git (from SVN). You can get an account and submit a change. [23:00:42] Sure. :-) [23:00:54] sumanah is the person to talk to about that, I think. [23:00:56] 03(mod) Make "Hide" Cookies notice independent - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/17108 -fun-com -fundraising (10Peter Gehres (WMF)) [23:00:57] Great. Thanks. I don't wanna clutter up the project leads' plate. [23:00:57] !git [23:00:58] MediaWiki development is using git, a distributed source control manager, starting on March 21st, 2012; details: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git_happens Instructions for using it: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Workflow To get an account: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Labsconsole_accounts [23:01:02] I'll go ahead and do that. [23:01:59] nullspoon: I can understand that worry, and indeed sometimes the more senior developers do have a lot on their plates, and the project is too slow to respond to contributions. But that's not your fault :-) [23:02:24] nullspoon: in fact, if you request developer access right now, I'll run through the queue and issue it to you, not just within 1 business day, but within 5 minutes [23:02:42] sumanah: Sure! [23:02:52] Selling? Ha! We're practically GIVING this developer access away! [23:02:57] haha [23:02:58] nullspoon: many other people can make those accounts, but I'm the one who does it if no one else does [23:03:10] marktraceur: I'll throw in Labs access FOR FREE [23:03:14] we cover shipping [23:03:33] sounds like it's my day [23:03:34] lol [23:03:53] Heh... I have a Tom Wait's song for you... [23:04:00] nullspoon: as long as I am giving you a spiel: [23:04:05] !events | nullspoon [23:04:05] nullspoon : We run face-to-face events for MediaWiki developers and people who want to learn: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_developer_meetings We also have online meetings in IRC to triage bugs: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Bug_management/Triage [23:04:09] * nullspoon sits and listens [23:04:36] 03(mod) MediaWiki:Fundraiserstats-tab-ytd should not contain (USD) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/25608 -fun-com ; +comment (10Peter Gehres (WMF)) [23:04:37] [23:05:05] * sumanah looks up "spielhund" [23:06:27] Amgine: my partner enjoys playing board games and analyzing BoardGameGeek data, and has considered using the latter to create a "People's Spiel des Jahres" or "Volkspiel des Jahres" [23:07:10] nullspoon: go ahead and request an account, https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developer_access [23:07:16] nullspoon: I should probably leave in a few minutes [23:08:34] nullspoon: so please go ahead and request it now so I can process it.... [23:09:40] Well, count my partner and I as alpha testers, if an english edition is created. [23:10:00] Amgine: ha! I will tell my spouse [23:10:33] <- not good with history, but willing to try games> [23:11:14] sumanah: submitted [23:12:22] done, nullspoon [23:13:37] Thanks sumanah. Have a great night! [23:13:46] Thanks nullspoon, I shall attempt to do so [23:13:51] [23:14:58] Amgine: ? [23:15:30] mmm... You're recruiting. [23:15:38] oho [23:15:42] disabled extensions [23:15:53] now it's giving this: 2012-06-12 23:13:42: (mod_fastcgi.c.2701) FastCGI-stderr: PHP Fatal error: Call to a member function getDbKey() on a non-object in /var/www/mediawiki/w/includes/cache/MessageCache.php on line 755 [23:15:54] Amgine: well, tonight I'm actually just going to a standup comedy show [23:15:58] Amgine: pretty staid [23:16:01] night all [23:18:22] [23:18:45] Brooke: Are you handling this? [23:24:25] Amgine: Handling what? [23:24:47] Frood's issue. [23:29:28] 03(mod) Send notification to account owner on multiple unsuccessful login attempts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/9838 +comment (10Tyler Romeo) [23:31:39] 03(NEW) Article Feedback 5 - Increase Test Sample to 10% of English Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37531 normal; MediaWiki extensions: ArticleFeedbackv5; (fflorin) [23:32:23] 03(mod) Article Feedback 5 - Increase Test Sample to 10% of English Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37531 +aftv5-1.5 (10Fabrice Florin) [23:36:00] 03(mod) Deploy extension Memento on Wikipedia sites - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34778 +comment (10Harihar Shankar) [23:51:12] 03(mod) PageTriage should recognize the difference between a patrol action and an autopatrol action - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36837 (10bsitu) [23:56:40] 03(NEW) Article Feedback 5 - Preventing users from promoting their own posts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37532 normal; MediaWiki extensions: ArticleFeedbackv5; (fflorin) [23:56:56] 03(mod) Article Feedback 5 - Preventing users from promoting their own posts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37532 +aftv5-1.5 (10Fabrice Florin)