[00:00:14] New patchset: Tim Starling; "Increased uselessly low $wgBlockCIDRLimit default for IPv6." [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf4) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11259 [00:00:15] New patchset: Tim Starling; "Increase maximum IPv6 range block size to /19" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf4) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11260 [00:00:35] New review: Tim Starling; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf4); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11259 [00:00:37] Change merged: Tim Starling; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf4) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11259 [00:00:44] New review: Tim Starling; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf4); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11260 [00:00:47] Change merged: Tim Starling; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf4) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11260 [00:09:37] 03(NEW) Article Feedback - Reply to this post - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37574 normal; MediaWiki extensions: ArticleFeedbackv5; (fflorin) [00:10:11] 03(mod) Article Feedback - Reply to this post - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37574 +aftv5-1.5 (10Fabrice Florin) [00:10:36] New patchset: Jalexander; "Updating to use adjustable variables for link text and link itself." [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaShopLink] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11262 [00:10:41] 03(mod) Article Feedback - Reply to this post - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37574 +comment (10Fabrice Florin) [00:12:02] New patchset: Pgehres; "Adding redirects to WMFr landing pages for French territories per WMFr request" [mediawiki/extensions/FundraiserLandingPage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11263 [00:21:02] New review: Trevor Parscal; "Working well - thanks for the quick patch" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11258 [00:21:20] Change merged: Trevor Parscal; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11258 [00:22:14] New review: Katie Horn; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/FundraiserLandingPage] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11263 [00:22:16] Change merged: Katie Horn; [mediawiki/extensions/FundraiserLandingPage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11263 [00:25:36] 03(NEW) Syntax error in SPARQL INSERT/DELETE DATA requests when default graph not set - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37575 major; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; (jeen.broekstra) [00:32:57] 03(NEW) Setup general look and feel of the WLM app according to the mockups - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37576 normal; WikiLoves Monuments Mobile: General; (yuvipanda) [00:34:01] 03(NEW) Tracking bug for 0.9 release of WLM app - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37577 normal; WikiLoves Monuments Mobile: General; (yuvipanda) [00:34:53] 03(NEW) Search does not find some pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37578 minor; MediaWiki: Search; (saibotrash) [00:40:58] hey I wanted to create a page that list suggestions [00:41:32] er, how do i find a list of pages with no content [00:42:07] moringinzz: what wiki? [00:43:47] 03(NEW) Article Feedback - Default Warning Message for Abuse Filter - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37579 major; MediaWiki extensions: AbuseFilter; (fflorin) [00:47:32] New patchset: Catrope; "Fix for 15e5193a19, broke in debug mode" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11264 [00:49:33] New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11264 [00:54:27] New patchset: Bsitu; " Make new db fields optional" [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11265 [00:54:43] New review: Catrope; "Breaks production mode instead, sorry :S" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11264 [00:55:45] New patchset: Catrope; "Fix for 15e5193a19, broke in debug mode" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11264 [00:55:58] New review: Catrope; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11264 [00:57:34] New review: Catrope; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11264 [00:57:45] New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11264 [00:59:47] Rotfl... I just contemplated an interesting thought.... Someone starting a Kickstarter for a new TLD [01:00:16] Backers get first dibs [01:02:23] Heh... Wikimedia organizing a Kickstarter campain for .wiki would be ammusing. [01:06:11] New patchset: Catrope; "Fix for 15e5193a19, broke in debug mode" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11264 [01:06:36] New review: Catrope; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11264 [01:07:22] Dantman: we looked at that last fall, decided the overhead was too high. [01:07:34] (we != WMF) [01:08:11] New review: Trevor Parscal; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11264 [01:08:11] New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11264 [01:08:13] Change merged: Trevor Parscal; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11264 [01:14:43] Heh, heh heh... looks like some company registered .cайт ^_^ I know what some people are going to try doing with this [01:15:03] 03(mod) Make it possible to have differing default warning messages for differing filter groups - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37561 minor->normal; +comment (10Fabrice Florin) [01:15:03] 03(mod) Article Feedback - Default Warning Message for Abuse Filter - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37579 (10Fabrice Florin) [01:20:18] 03(mod) Article Feedback - Default Warning Message for Abuse Filter - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37579 +aftv5-1.5 (10Fabrice Florin) [01:20:33] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "Fixed pecl memcached client in persistent mode." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11266 [01:20:37] 03(mod) Article Feedback - Default Warning Message for Abuse Filter - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37579 (10Fabrice Florin) [01:22:08] Woooooowwwww... someone actually bought .fail [01:22:34] New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11266 [01:24:39] Eh.... what.... O_O ICANN actually let someone other than Google grab .gmail [01:25:52] Ok... n/m... sneaky Google [01:36:22] 06(LATER) Include unified diff in gerrit email notifications - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35532 +comment (10Chad H.) [01:38:17] New patchset: Kaldari; "Fixing the display of the parameter form" [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/10754 [01:44:33] 03(mod) OH-AFT - "Learn more" links on actions need to link to the help materials - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37434 +comment (10Fabrice Florin) [01:45:25] 03(mod) "Learn more" links on actions need to link to the help materials - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37434 summary (10Fabrice Florin) [02:02:22] 03(mod) ConfirmEdit bundled with MediaWiki 1.18.3 is incompatible with MediaWiki 1.18.3 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36311 +comment (10Steve) [02:06:25] 03(WONTFIX) Namespace manager - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/7803 +comment (10Erik Moeller) [02:06:29] hello? [02:07:34] Can someone help me? [02:08:05] hello??? [02:08:16] Why is no one in here? [02:10:33] New review: Tim Starling; "I wasn't planning on using the persistent mode, because the number of connections can cause performa..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11266 [02:10:36] Change merged: Tim Starling; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11266 [02:11:34] 03(NEW) Article Feedback - Special Display for IPv6 Addresses - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37580 normal; MediaWiki extensions: ArticleFeedbackv5; (fflorin) [02:11:58] 03(mod) Article Feedback - Special Display for IPv6 Addresses - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37580 +aftv5-1.5 (10Fabrice Florin) [02:12:34] maybe QWizard's client didn't show him the 233 other people in the channel? [02:20:11] New review: Aaron Schulz; "Hmm, I didn't know you planned on switching off $wgMemCachedPersistent before using this client. In ..." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11266 [02:22:42] 03(NEW) Article Feedback - Automated Notifications with Positive Feedback - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37581 normal; MediaWiki extensions: ArticleFeedbackv5; (fflorin) [02:22:57] 03(mod) Article Feedback - Automated Notifications with Positive Feedback - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37581 +aftv5-1.5 (10Fabrice Florin) [02:38:19] TimStarling: "In my defense!" :p [02:39:14] strange [02:39:50] I thought we turned it off not long after we deployed memcached [02:42:21] "NewGawker: "I always wondered where that dingo ate my baby line came from."" [02:43:14] I've been trying to work out for a while why some americans say "dingo ate your baby? ha ha ha" when they find out you're australian, like it's a funny joke [02:45:40] I think maybe it has to do with how it was reported at the time, in 1980 [02:47:11] no americans around to enlighten me? [02:47:14] also, Americans tend to associate other countries with a small handful of landmarks, food, or animals [02:47:34] like how every Fox cartoon that has a scene in Britain ALWAYS has Big Ben [02:47:43] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghCTZF61ey0 [02:47:43] "hey, look, it's Britain, see see!" [02:48:07] * Aaron|home still watches The Simpsons [02:49:02] 03(mod) Create Wikipedia in Banjar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/25307 +comment (10Ezagren) [02:49:15] well yeah, a lot of people seem to have a map of country => joke that they use whenever a country is mentioned [02:49:42] I also get "that's not a knife", but that is more understandable [02:50:05] Crocodile Dundee was a comedy about Australia [02:50:33] whereas the Lindy Chamberlain thing was a chilling story about the death of a baby [02:50:47] You seem to be having difficulty with dark humor. [02:51:16] Also, I'm not sure how much Seinfeld was involved. [02:51:33] dark humor has to be both dark and humour [02:51:47] where is the joke in "dingo stole my baby"? [02:51:59] I can't say I find it funny [02:52:14] Did you watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghCTZF61ey0 ? [02:53:19] maybe [02:54:25] that would have been 1992 [02:56:42] * TimStarling searches google news for seinfeld [02:57:11] I'm not sure most people who saw Seinfeld or heard the reference understood the historical context. [02:57:21] That's not uncommon. [02:58:55] > The original case became a media frenzy in Australia, often compared to the O.J. Simpson trial in America. It also had a bizarre life in American pop culture, the phrase “dingoes ate my baby” becoming a kind of pre-Internet meme, appearing in everything from Seinfeld to Buffy the Vampire Slayer, and eventually becoming the basis of a movie, A Cry in the Dark, starring Meryl Streep as Lindy Hamilton. [02:59:01] From http://www.flayrah.com/4094/coroner-confirms-it-dingoes-ate-baby [02:59:52] Pre-Internet meme is a good descriptor, I think. [02:59:54] well, the movie was before the pop culture references [02:59:54] MW 1.18.3: Is there an easy way to create a box that would place page titles from a category called news? Thanx! [03:00:17] FCPD: You want a dynamic category membership list? [03:00:34] the movie was 1988, the same year she was acquitted [03:00:59] There's an extension called CategoryTree that can do that. [03:01:28] and the line in seinfeld is sarcastic, as if dingoes stealing things is a lie that australian people like to tell [03:01:32] no not a membership list just a simple box and then simply have a category called News and then say take the first 5 page titles from the category and post them in the box [03:02:02] which is a pretty bold angle to take 4 years after acquittal, right? [03:02:33] Brooke: i know that the box will be some coding to make it i mainly need to know how to move the category list so to speak there [03:03:00] TimStarling: Stealing things? [03:03:19] i have parser functions installed and semantic mediawiki i was hoping for an extension or something but didnt find anything [03:03:30] i'm just not a coder really ;) [03:04:39] I guess seinfeld was never politically correct [03:05:02] FCPD: Did you look at ? [03:05:18] Humor is often politically incorrect. [03:05:23] Humour, too. [03:05:42] I don't recall it being that risky [03:06:01] looking now thanx! [03:06:18] then again, I'm used to SP, so everything seems tame [03:06:57] It was a risky line in the context. [03:07:00] wasn't * [03:17:22] whats the best widht so my mediawiki would work good in ipad too? i dont want to use % tables [03:17:24] Brooke: Thanx a lot!!! That is what I needed! And thanx to all on here as you folks really help me as a novice make a pretty cool wiki --- at least it's cool to me! :) [03:18:26] TimStarling: http://ecathome.com/tag/ecat <-- cold fusion, zomgs ;) [03:23:07] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrea_Rossi_%28entrepreneur%29 [03:23:14] has a nice summary of Rossi's previous scams [03:23:59] yeah, like petroldragon [03:24:22] it's amusing how many conspiracy nutters defend him on the net [03:25:10] I used to make a game of arguing with crackpots by email [03:25:12] rationalwiki already has an article [03:25:25] yeah, this would fit on your user subpage nicely :) [03:25:30] I even have a book from one of those exchanges, I keep it as a souvenir [03:26:14] a vanity published book from a guy who believed probability is quantized, like energy in a bound system [03:27:12] i.e. there is a lower limit on how unlikely something can be [03:27:23] (without being zero) [03:29:19] "the plant remained connected to a power supply during the test allegedly to supply power to the fans and the water pumps" [03:29:57] funny how these devices can never seem to supply all their own power [03:30:39] http://newenergytimes.com/v2/sr/RossiECat/Andrea-Rossi-Energy-Catalyzer-Investigation-Index.shtml [03:30:45] that says it out the best [03:31:16] I like how rossi monitors complex nuclear reactions with just three largely useless temperature measurements on his laptop [03:32:27] and he stars so intently at the readings [03:32:31] *stares [03:32:49] http://newenergytimes.com/v2/news/2012/Proof-of-Rossis-Deception.shtml [03:33:20] he also "adjusts" the voltage when the camera goes out for a second (this happened several times and could in fact be retroactively predicted from the temp data) [03:37:53] 03(mod) Addition of CU logs to list of user links in Special:Contributions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37573 +comment (10Avi) [03:40:28] you know Arthur C. Clarke was a cold fusion advocate [03:41:58] Heya. I'm getting a PHP notice for undefined variables $userlang and $userdir on code intended to set the lang and dir attributes in SkinTemplate.php on using 1.17.5 after the patch. Anyone else run into that? [03:45:19] Also, the link to "Channel logged:" in the topic here points to http://bots.wmflabs.org/~wm-bot/logs/%23mediawiki/?C=M;O=D - bots.wmflabs.org is not resolving. [03:47:11] 03(mod) Allow on-wiki editing of SVG images - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/5899 +comment (10Philosopher) [03:50:10] 03(mod) Add a direct unwatch link to entries on Special:Watchlist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/424 (10kpower675) [03:53:43] I can "fix" it by adding if (!isset($userlang)) $userlang = $lang; and if (!isset($userdir)) $userdir = $dir; after if ( $lang !== $wgContLang->getCode() || $dir !== $wgContLang->getDir() ) { but I'm pretty sure that's not the best solution. [04:01:23] Ah, I see. The variables were renamed to $userlang and $userdir in 1.18, but the 1.17 port of the patch does not rename them back. [04:02:26] 03(mod) Correctly escape uselang attribute to prevent xss - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36938 +comment (10Laurence 'GreenReaper' Parry) [04:03:05] Good thing I hadn't got around to upgrading to 1.19 yet. ;-p [04:09:06] TimStarling: if you had to guess, what decade would you say fusion power might be commercially practical? [04:09:26] [04:09:58] * GreenReaper yeeps! [04:10:10] who knows, maybe never [04:10:18] it depends on the competition [04:10:20] * Aaron|home recalls fusion in simcity being 2050 :) [04:10:36] of course they got rid of fusion in simcity 4 for some reason [04:11:03] replaced it with hydrogen power...which, I guess maybe they though was more practical for some reason [04:12:14] it can't be less than a few decades after ITER wraps up I bet [04:14:43] fusion is seen as safe and clean, but it produces neutrons, which make the containment structure radioactive [04:15:07] and reduce its structural integrity, requiring periodic replacement [04:15:29] it's hard to say what the economics will be [04:17:09] the tritium fuel is radioactive also [04:18:03] so maybe the psychological safety advantage won't be as large as anticipated [04:19:02] if we got MSRs online, it might start to look less necessary [04:19:27] * Aaron|home feels hopelessly drawn toward fission [04:19:36] Is there a way to patch MW with the 1.19.1 .patch file on windows? [04:19:55] try unxutils.sourceforge.net [04:20:19] will try that, thanks [04:20:20] Resplendent: it you happen to have msysgit, you can use that too [04:24:06] TimStarling: http://brian.moonspot.net/php-memcached-issues [04:24:12] I find the third paragraph amusing [04:26:48] heh, "The most major bug is one that I found. If you use persistent connections with this extension, it basically leaks those connections, not reusing an existing connection but also not closing the ones already made. " [04:27:07] I wonder if that is a bug or just the extension being misused (as warned about) [04:28:44] 03(mod) Allow on-wiki editing of SVG images - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/5899 +comment (10Philosopher) [04:34:19] 03(mod) Support language variants (different language interfaces - same wikipedia) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/21806 +i18n (10Amir E. Aharoni) [04:35:33] 03(NEW) Support language variants in the mobile app - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37582 normal; Wikipedia App: Localization/Translation/Language; (amir.aharoni) [04:54:20] * Aaron|home wonders if the "Hydrogen Power Plant" in SC4 *was* fusion [04:58:57] New patchset: Amire80; "bug 36959 Added success message to signup page" [mediawiki/extensions/TranslationNotifications] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11267 [05:01:25] thin film hydrogen separating fuel cell, Aaron|home. http://www.jgpress.com/archives/_free/000455.html [05:01:37] (cow farts) [05:02:13] New review: Amire80; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/TranslationNotifications] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11267 [05:02:45] 03(ASSIGNED) Special:TranslatorSignup should have "success" screen - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36959 +comment (10Amir E. Aharoni) [05:12:18] New patchset: Amire80; "Fixing the language of the priority in the log" [mediawiki/extensions/TranslationNotifications] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11268 [05:18:52] New patchset: Subramanya Sastry; "Improved, simplified newline handling in wikitext serializer." [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11269 [05:20:40] New review: Subramanya Sastry; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11269 [05:20:42] Change merged: Subramanya Sastry; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11269 [05:31:06] 03(mod) Addition of CU logs to list of user links in Special:Contributions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37573 +comment (10Will H) [05:35:56] 03(mod) Tracking bug for 0.9 release of WLM app - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37577 (10Srikanth Logic) [05:35:56] 03(mod) Tracking bug (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/2007 (10Srikanth Logic) [05:39:27] You can use template to insert predefined text. But what if you want people to create pages following a certain structure, with certain sections, and subsections? [05:39:36] Can you have a template for such purpose? [05:43:35] Awww... requestAnimationFrame doesn't erase scroll flicker [06:07:30] 03(mod) "specify site" may be changed to "language" and "specify page" to "article" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37543 +comment (10Nikola Smolenski) [06:19:45] New patchset: Tim Starling; "More Opera Mini ranges" [mediawiki/extensions/TrustedXFF] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11270 [06:22:10] 03(mod) allow entering languages in the interface language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37542 +comment (10Niklas Laxström) [06:34:16] New review: Santhosh; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/TranslationNotifications] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11267 [06:42:45] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "Clean up comments and whitespace" [mediawiki/core] (Wikidata) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11141 [06:44:01] New review: Santhosh; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/TranslationNotifications] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11268 [06:44:04] Change merged: Santhosh; [mediawiki/extensions/TranslationNotifications] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11268 [06:44:53] New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (Wikidata); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11141 [07:22:58] New patchset: Nischayn22; "added hash checks on data update" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (storerewrite) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/10706 [07:26:12] New patchset: Hashar; "jobs-loop: update comment + basic man page" [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaMaintenance] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11040 [07:26:55] New review: Hashar; "Patchset 2 fix several comments. Thanks Aaron. Merging right away since there is no code issue :-D" [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaMaintenance] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11040 [07:26:57] Change merged: Hashar; [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaMaintenance] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11040 [07:29:43] how to sned mail to all user in mediawiki? [07:33:51] New patchset: Netbrain; "removed deprecated hook (LanguageGetMagic)" [mediawiki/extensions/SideBarMenu] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11271 [07:34:23] how to send mail to all user in mediawiki? [07:34:34] 03(mod) Search does not find some pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37578 +comment (10Rainer@Rillke.eu) [07:35:22] New review: Netbrain; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/SideBarMenu] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11271 [07:35:24] Change merged: Netbrain; [mediawiki/extensions/SideBarMenu] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11271 [07:35:29] New patchset: Hashar; "jobs-loop: fix argument handling" [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaMaintenance] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11041 [07:37:01] New review: Hashar; "Patchset 2 fix the redundant `sleep`" [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaMaintenance] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11041 [07:40:10] New patchset: Hashar; "jobs-loop: fix argument handling" [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaMaintenance] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11041 [07:40:58] New review: Hashar; "Patchset 3 is a rebase so this change is based on I1633f8d8" [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaMaintenance] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11041 [07:41:15] azeez: let me find out :-] [07:41:23] azeez: I am sure we have something to send mail to every users [07:46:53] azeez: can't find any sorry :-( [07:48:06] ok [07:48:10] 03(mod) extensions/AbsenteeLandlord seems misconfigured - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37525 +comment (10Raimond Spekking) [07:49:25] 03(mod) Image thumbnailing on WAMP sometimes locks up - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37539 +comment (10Ronald In 't Velt) [07:59:43] 03(mod) Uploading stuck about 1-2 minutes on "Finished!" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34997 +comment (10Asher Feldman) [08:01:03] 03(mod) extensions/AbsenteeLandlord seems misconfigured - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37525 +comment (10Siebrand) [08:05:45] New review: Dereckson; "Script looks good." [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaMaintenance] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11041 [08:10:37] New patchset: Hashar; "jobs-loop: fix argument handling" [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaMaintenance] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11041 [08:10:55] New review: Hashar; "Patchset 4 fix a typo in commit message. Thanks Dereckson!" [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaMaintenance] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11041 [08:11:41] New patchset: L10n-bot; "Localisation updates from http://translatewiki.net." [mediawiki/extensions/Contest] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11272 [08:15:02] I have some troubles with Media Wiki. After editing a page, I try to click the 'save page' button to save the new content. But I have not found which function listen this button. Does anyone know which function or functions are in charge of this part? [08:20:37] qwebirc29781: should be somewhere in includes/EditPage.php [08:21:08] qwebirc29781: also have a look at includes/actions/EditAction.php [08:24:53] My wiki is version 1.17 [08:25:16] there is no includes/actions/EditAction.php [08:26:21] In includes/EditPage.php, it just add this button in HTML, does not add any listener on it [08:26:45] that's why I am curious [08:41:25] New review: Dereckson; "Script looks good." [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaMaintenance] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11041 [08:45:13] (I have answered qwebirc29781 privately) [08:47:10] 03(mod) Email notification mistakes log action for new page creation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/14901 +comment (10Purodha Blissenbach) [08:49:09] 03(mod) [regression] Toolbar API to remove buttons is broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37484 normal->major; +comment (10Michael M.) [08:49:13] 03(mod) MediaWiki bugs to be fixed for 1.20wmf5 deployment (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37346 (10Michael M.) [08:54:06] 03(NEW) Misleading e-mail message on page move - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37583 normal; MediaWiki extensions: LiquidThreads; (bugzilla.wikimedia) [09:10:11] New patchset: Nikerabbit; "Remove asterisks" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11273 [09:11:30] 03(mod) Remove asterisks around current translated page language name in - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34113 +comment (10Niklas Laxström) [09:12:48] 03(mod) Page protection leads to issue in translatable pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32983 +comment (10Niklas Laxström) [09:14:29] 03(mod) Translated page is not updated when a translation string page is moved - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37297 +comment (10Niklas Laxström) [09:18:22] 03(FIXED) Don't call it just "IP block list" anymore - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35690 +comment (10Niklas Laxström) [09:21:18] 03(mod) Fix typo in GeSHi HTML5 definition file - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37044 +comment (10Niklas Laxström) [09:25:53] New patchset: Hashar; "lint mediawiki.Uri.js" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/10576 [09:26:38] New patchset: Raimond Spekking; "Remove period for consistency" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11274 [09:27:07] New review: Hashar; "Looks fine. I have just rebased it." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/10576 [09:27:10] Change merged: Hashar; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/10576 [09:28:52] 03raymond * 10/trunk/translatewiki/MediaWiki/mediawiki-defines.txt: Register new magic i18n file [09:29:57] New patchset: Hashar; "Use message 'brackets' for brackets" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/10697 [09:30:13] New review: Hashar; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/10697 [09:30:16] Change merged: Hashar; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/10697 [09:35:26] 03(NEW) [UserRights] - Checkboxes suddenly changed for no reason - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37584 normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (maurelio) [09:35:50] 03(mod) [UserRights] - The order of the checkboxes suddenly changed for no reason - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37584 summary (10Marco Aurelio) [09:36:34] 03(mod) [UserRights] - The order of the checkboxes suddenly changed for no reason - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37584 (10Marco Aurelio) [09:38:32] New review: Jens Ohlig; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11274 [09:38:34] Change merged: Jens Ohlig; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11274 [09:39:16] 03(NEW) Update GeSHi library when a new version is available - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37585 normal; MediaWiki extensions: SyntaxHighlight (GeSHi); (dereckson) [09:39:18] 03(mod) Fix typo in GeSHi HTML5 definition file - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37044 (10Dereckson) [09:41:01] 03(mod) Fix typo in GeSHi HTML5 definition file - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37044 +comment (10Dereckson) [09:41:18] 03(mod) Fix typo in GeSHi HTML5 definition file - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37044 (10Dereckson) [09:41:20] 03(mod) Update GeSHi library when a new version is available - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37585 (10Dereckson) [09:42:22] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "gah, i can't approve this because i committed the last change set :)" [mediawiki/core] (Wikidata) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11141 [09:42:40] hmf [09:42:47] anyone around to approve the above? [09:42:48] Daniel_WMDE_: can't you merge stuff ? [09:43:00] it's a patch to "my" branch, and it conly touches whitespace and comments. [09:43:14] hashar: apparently not. [09:43:28] I thought you were allowed to do so [09:43:38] I am not going to change that though :-] [09:43:39] will approve [09:43:41] hashar: just give me the bits :) [09:43:46] thanks [09:44:32] there are whitespace errors! !!!! [09:44:41] noooo! what?+ [09:45:21] 03(mod) Addition of CU logs to list of user links in Special:Contributions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37573 (10Alexandre Emsenhuber [IAlex]) [09:45:44] 03(mod) Addition of CU logs to list of user links in Special:Contributions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37573 trivial->15enhancement (10Alexandre Emsenhuber [IAlex]) [09:46:56] Daniel_WMDE_: so I am fixing the errors and will commit / merge [09:47:37] 03(mod) Translate ext. release notes are not up to date - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37193 +comment (10Niklas Laxström) [09:48:32] New review: Siebrand; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11273 [09:48:34] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11273 [09:48:54] 03(mod) Remove asterisks around current translated page language name in - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34113 +comment (10Siebrand) [09:49:33] 03(mod) Fundraiserportal messages should use SITENAME - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/19897 +comment (10Niklas Laxström) [09:51:20] 14(DUP) IndexPager's use of non-inclusive offsets doesn't work well on Special:Categories - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37469 +comment (10Alexandre Emsenhuber [IAlex]) [09:51:20] 03(mod) Special:Categories should also include the first relevant item when "from" is filled - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/25095 +comment (10Alexandre Emsenhuber [IAlex]) [09:53:43] New patchset: Hashar; "Clean up comments and whitespace" [mediawiki/core] (Wikidata) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11141 [09:53:48] 03(mod) Update GeSHi library when a new version is available - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37585 +upstream; +comment (10Dereckson) [09:54:18] New review: Hashar; "While reviewing, I cleaned the trailing whitespaces." [mediawiki/core] (Wikidata); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11141 [09:54:21] Change merged: Hashar; [mediawiki/core] (Wikidata) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11141 [09:54:33] Daniel_WMDE_: merged !! ^^^^ [10:01:12] out for lunch [10:01:43] New review: Nikerabbit; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Babel] (master); V: 0 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11131 [10:01:46] Change merged: Nikerabbit; [mediawiki/extensions/Babel] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11131 [10:03:40] 03(FIXED) lang attribute must be added to Babel elements to enable WebFonts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35366 +comment (10Amir E. Aharoni) [10:15:40] New review: Nikerabbit; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9610 [10:21:04] New review: Nikerabbit; "Giving -1 until it is shown to have visible performance impact to justify the increased memory use a..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9598 [10:23:00] Change abandoned: Daniel Werner; "See discussion on http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_talk:Arrays#Submitted_patch_for_new_functi..." [mediawiki/extensions/Arrays] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9857 [10:28:17] New review: Nikerabbit; "If you use $parser->getUserLang() it will pollute the cache by splitting it per user language, but e..." [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaIncubator] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8008 [10:38:32] New review: Nikerabbit; "Looks fine but can you comment on few things?" [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaIncubator] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7990 [10:39:23] New patchset: Aude; "fix ItemByTitle special page" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11275 [10:44:09] 03(NEW) WikiEditor doesn't appear on vec.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37586 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikiEditor; (agostini.19) [10:55:54] New review: Nikerabbit; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/10545 [11:01:09] ahhahahaha http://www.news.com.au/technology/kogan-wages-war-on-internet-explorer-users-taxed/story-e6frfro0-1226395298505 [11:04:58] 03(ASSIGNED) Addition of CU logs to list of user links in Special:Contributions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37573 +shellpolicy; +comment (10Dereckson) [11:10:37] MaxSem: I launched an IE6 virtual machine [11:10:53] They don't apply the tax for older IE versions [11:11:07] (but then, the CSS is totally broken in IE6) [11:11:09] because they don't support em? [11:11:22] right [11:26:24] 03(FIXED) Translating some items in PDF Extension for fa.wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37544 +comment (10Ralf Schmitt) [11:38:01] 03(mod) Implement watchlist notice feature - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29146 +comment (10MZMcBride) [11:38:55] 03(NEW) make sure page protection works for data items - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37588 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; (daniel.kinzler) [11:44:27] 03(mod) Addition of CU logs to list of user links in Special:Contributions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37573 +comment (10AGK) [11:52:36] 03(mod) Addition of CU logs to list of user links in Special:Contributions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37573 +comment (10MZMcBride) [11:53:07] re [11:53:48] 03(VERIFIED) Translating some items in PDF Extension for fa.wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37544 +comment (10Dereckson) [12:02:18] 03(mod) Addition of CU logs to list of user links in Special:Contributions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37573 +comment (10Will H) [12:09:12] 03(mod) internal_api_error_DBQueryError when moving files - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37519 +comment (10Rainer@Rillke.eu) [12:17:47] 03(mod) Addition of CU logs to list of user links in Special:Contributions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37573 +comment (10Neil Babbage) [12:17:54] @infobot-ignore+ ops [12:17:54] @infobot-ignore+ seen [12:17:55] Item ops was inserted to ignore list [12:17:56] Item seen was inserted to ignore list [12:18:02] !seen test [12:18:12] !seen is blvsdfga [12:18:18] !seen2 is test [12:18:18] Key was added [12:18:21] !seen2 del [12:18:21] Successfully removed seen2 [12:20:14] New review: Nikerabbit; "This doesn't really make it work for any language, unless they happen to use the simple patterns the..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9610 [12:22:18] 03(mod) Some closed *.wikimedia.org wikis use missing.php script which redirects to Incubator - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33809 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [12:22:44] 03(mod) Interwiki language links to non-existent wikisources should redirect to the multilingual wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36033 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [12:23:28] 03(NEW) Caret irregularly moves when the text area automatically expands in Translate extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37589 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Translate; (whym) [12:29:00] New patchset: IAlex; "Added missing GPLv2 headers in some places." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11279 [12:31:03] New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11279 [12:36:17] Is someone familiar with sqlite issues? [12:36:24] * MaxSem  [12:37:20] hi! im trying to update mediawiki, however the link on the download page gives me a 404 [12:37:22] http://download.wikimedia.org/mediawiki/1.19/mediawiki-i18n-1.19.1.patch.gz [12:37:37] I see some extensions counts on the DatabaseSqlite::replaceVars function to replace the auto_increment field by autoincrement [12:37:58] that leads to sql table declaration like: [12:37:59] cuc_id INTEGER NOT NULL AUTOINCREMENT, [12:38:14] with the primary key declaration at end [12:38:32] where SQLite wants something like cuc_id INTEGER NOT NULL PRIMARY KEY AUTOINCREMENT [12:39:12] 03(FIXED) Some closed *.wikimedia.org wikis use missing.php script which redirects to Incubator - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33809 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [12:39:52] Dereckson, https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Database_access#SQLite_compatibility [12:39:53] 03(FIXED) Interwiki language links to non-existent wikisources should redirect to the multilingual wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36033 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [12:40:05] hashar: thanks for deploying! :) [12:40:24] My question is: "Are there already accepted patterns to improve compatibility". [12:40:38] okay so MaxSem every time I see an issue like that, I can submit a patch to improve SQL statements? [12:40:40] SPQRobin: thanks for the patch :-]]] [12:40:47] yes [12:40:47] SPQRobin: oh, you're awaken. 'morning [12:40:49] SPQRobin: we could indeed have deployed your first change [12:41:08] SPQRobin: but I prefer having one bug == one change. Easier to find out what goes wrong :-] [12:41:37] hi Dereckson, well I'm awake for a few hours :p [12:41:52] hashar: yeah, makes sense for if something goes wrong :) [12:42:13] SPQRobin: and that missing.php surely need to be rewritten somehow :-] [12:43:02] alfon: hey [12:43:06] After editing a page, I click the ‘save page’ button and the action of the ‘editform’ form is /mediawiki/index.php?title=Category:Book&action=submit. I try to get ‘action=submit’ in index.php, Wiki.php and EditPage.php, but it does not work. I can only get ‘action=view’ or ‘action=edit’. It seems that some function get ‘/mediawiki/index.php?title=Category:Book&action=submit’, update the database accor [12:43:21] alfon: it works [12:43:50] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11250 [12:43:52] Change merged: Daniel Kinzler; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11250 [12:44:20] petan: when i click on this link i get a http 404 error [12:44:24] does it really work for you?? [12:44:27] I get a file [12:44:31] http://download.wikimedia.org/mediawiki/1.19/mediawiki-1.19.1.tar.gz [12:44:39] where do you see that link [12:44:48] no i mean the i8n patch [12:45:00] here: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Download [12:45:10] ok that is broken [12:45:25] SPQRobin: grmbl I were waiting you to draft bylaws this morning, so don't ":p" [12:45:30] do you know how exactly it is created? [12:45:35] Reedy: can you check it? [12:45:36] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "this fix will be obsolete as soon as I5d60e643 is merged. I recommend to wait a few hours, then amen..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11275 [12:45:46] Thank you MaxSem for precisions. [12:45:49] then i could create the patch myself [12:45:55] alfon: I have no idea [12:46:11] Can anyone tell me which part in MediaWiki parses ‘/mediawiki/index.php?title=Category:Book&action=submit’ [12:46:50] alfon: check the link in http://download.wikimedia.org/mediawiki/1.19/ :-D [12:47:29] qwebirc29781: parses= in what way? [12:47:31] hmm there is none [12:47:44] only the patch without the language specific changes [12:47:58] 03(NEW) Can't install CheckUser extension with SQLite - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37590 normal; MediaWiki extensions: CheckUser; (dereckson) [12:48:02] true [12:48:30] Nikerabbit: who is creating these patches? [12:48:32] qwebirc29781: technically, i guess the answer is "none, apache/php parses the query string"... what exactly do you want to know? [12:48:51] 03(ASSIGNED) Can't install CheckUser extension with SQLite - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37590 +schema-change (10Dereckson) [12:48:51] i could download the whole archive, copy my changes over and then replace the old directory, but patching would be so much easier [12:50:51] qwebirc29781: the edit and submit actions are handled by the EditAction, which in turn uses EditPage. [12:51:11] qwebirc29781: this does all the permission checks, conflict detection, etc. [12:51:24] qwebirc29781: the low-level interface for saving changes is implemented in WikiPage [12:52:31] EditPage is extremely confusing, though. try to avoid messing with it :) [12:52:38] what are you actually trying to achieve? [12:53:22] I try to add something else when I save the page [12:53:32] into the database [12:53:43] follow the MW way [12:54:08] I try to add some new functions into MW [12:54:57] I already dived into Editpage.php [12:54:59] well, what do you want to add? and when/under which conditions? [12:55:17] is it supposed to happen when a page is edited? or independantly? [12:55:28] but I did not find any part that add a listener or something on this button [12:55:47] listeners and buttons are client side concepts [12:55:58] stuff like that doesn't work on the server side [12:55:59] After I edit the page and save it [12:56:18] so, you use a hook. ArticleSave is probably what you want [12:56:52] qwebirc29781: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Hooks [12:56:55] ok [12:56:59] I will try it [12:57:02] thank you [12:57:10] the ArticleSaveComplete hook is so common, its actually used in the example at the top of the page [12:58:03] details here: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Hooks/ArticleSaveComplete [12:58:13] but look at the explanation and example in the previous link [12:59:01] ok [13:00:31] New patchset: Santhosh; "Skeleton extension for Universal Language Selector" [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11280 [13:14:17] New review: Siebrand; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11279 [13:14:20] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11279 [13:14:24] i worked around the missing patch with "diff -ubr mediawiki-1.19.0 mediawiki-1.19.1 > mw.patch" and then applying this patch to my installation [13:15:17] New review: Siebrand; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/10996 [13:15:20] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/10996 [13:16:20] <_Meow> This is Meow from Wikipedia.zh. The history and content of this page were all lost after being moved twice. Is it a bug in MediaWiki? https://zh.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:%E7%89%B9%E8%89%B2%E6%9D%A1%E7%9B%AE%E8%AF%84%E9%80%89&action=history [13:17:07] <_Meow> liangent: ^ [13:17:44] New review: Siebrand; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/10531 [13:17:47] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/10531 [13:18:19] New review: Siebrand; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/10306 [13:18:22] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/10306 [13:19:20] _Meow: what was moved [13:19:32] <_Meow> petan: The page is moved twice [13:19:39] <_Meow> Using the Move command in MediaWiki [13:20:01] 12:58, 14 June 2012 Shizhao (Talk | contribs) deleted page Wikipedia:特色条目评选 (CSD G8: 删除以便移动) [13:20:11] it was deleted by that guy [13:20:38] ok, what was the original name, what was the second name and what was third name? [13:20:44] if you tell me original name I will find the rest [13:20:53] <_Meow> Okay, I will ask shizhao [13:21:01] or maybe I find that anyway :D [13:21:28] original was Wikipedia:特色条目评选 [13:21:35] <_Meow> Okay [13:21:53] first move was to Wikipedia:特色條目評選 [13:22:08] <_Meow> But only three revs are recoverd [13:22:29] second move looks weird [13:22:45] ah nevermind [13:22:49] <_Meow> 评选 => 候选, right? [13:22:54] I checked wrong log [13:23:05] <_Meow> https://zh.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3A%E6%97%A5%E5%BF%97&type=&user=&page=Wikipedia%3A%E7%89%B9%E8%89%B2%E6%9D%A1%E7%9B%AE%E8%AF%84%E9%80%89&year=&month=-1&tagfilter= [13:23:25] <_Meow> According to the log, the same page is deleted twice [13:23:37] <_Meow> And when it was recovered, only three revisions left [13:23:40] 03(FIXED) Babel configuration for fo.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37401 +comment (10Dereckson) [13:24:38] New review: Siebrand; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/EducationProgram] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11030 [13:27:24] New patchset: Matthias Mullie; "Introduce a new hook that allows extensions to add to My Contributions" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11282 [13:29:05] _Meow: why this redirect to itself https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E7%89%B9%E8%89%B2%E6%9D%A1%E7%9B%AE%E8%AF%84%E9%80%89 [13:29:23] <_Meow> petan: It's a double redirect now [13:29:26] New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11282 [13:29:29] + I think the history is somewhere in deleted contributions on one of these dozens of redirects [13:30:12] <_Meow> Checked [13:30:18] <_Meow> No deleted revisions left [13:31:10] did you check all pages which it was moved to [13:31:24] <_Meow> I told the sysops to check it just now [13:31:26] 03(mod) Translated page is not updated when a translation string page is moved - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37297 +comment (10Liangent) [13:31:26] <_Meow> Let's wait [13:32:54] New patchset: Matthias Mullie; "bug 36773 - My Contributions" [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11283 [13:33:03] petan, _Meow: do you have a toolserver account? [13:33:09] yes [13:33:11] <_Meow> liangent: No [13:33:35] <_Meow> I think the content could be pulled from toolserver now [13:33:37] petan: use ssh -D as a proxy to see http://toolserver.org/~liangent/mw/index.php/zhwiki_p [13:33:55] <_Meow> (Because of the great replag) [13:34:04] yeah [13:34:34] _Meow: make a ticket in bz [13:34:40] !bz [13:34:40] All bugs in MediaWiki should be reported at https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org. Requesting site configuration changes, new features or enhancements to existing features all go here. Bear in mind before making a feature/enhancement request: 1) If the request is specific to a Wikimedia wiki, please discuss it there first. 2) Consider whether a custom extension would be more appropriate [13:34:46] <_Meow> Thought about it [13:34:48] it may be very slow for the first few views [13:34:50] <_Meow> But it would be too slow [13:37:11] <_Meow> Someone deleted the page again and reverted it again just now [13:37:19] <_Meow> Sadly, still three version now [13:42:11] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "Refactored ItemView to untangle html generation from actual output." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11199 [13:42:21] <_Meow> liangent: What now? [13:45:15] petan: There's not an issue [13:45:19] There's no i18n patches [13:45:25] as there's been no message backports [13:45:48] ok, I removed the link [13:46:03] I noticed [13:46:05] Thanks [13:46:09] :) [13:46:12] I didn't realise we magically made that link [13:46:29] If you check the release email, there's no patch listed at all ;) [13:46:38] aha [13:48:11] 03(mod) Allow on-wiki editing of SVG images - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/5899 +comment (10achim1999) [13:52:11] !log [13:52:11] There are multiple keys, refine your input: logo, logs, logsearch, [13:53:55] New patchset: Reedy; "Notice: Undefined variable: userlang in [..]/includes/SkinTemplate.php on line 327 Notice: Undefined variable: userdir in [..]/includes/SkinTemplate.php on line 328" [mediawiki/core] (REL1_17) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11284 [13:54:07] 03(mod) Correctly escape uselang attribute to prevent xss - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36938 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [13:54:19] New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Failed " [mediawiki/core] (REL1_17); V: -1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11284 [13:54:36] STFU jenkins [13:58:10] New review: Reedy; "Can you kill jenkins-bots review please Chad?" [mediawiki/core] (REL1_17); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11284 [13:58:19] New review: Hashar; "Though the code looks functionally fine, there is a lot of code duplication in FileBackendStore" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8998 [13:58:29] Reedy: conflict in RELEASE-NOTES 1.20 ? [13:58:39] ? [13:58:55] STFU jenkins [13:59:03] 03(NEW) All page history lost in zh.wp - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37591 major; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (shizhao) [13:59:18] test failure for old branches... it being stupid [13:59:46] not really [13:59:50] though 1.17 seems broken [13:59:50] <_Meow> petan: ^^^ [13:59:53] <_Meow> Done now [13:59:57] 03(mod) All page history lost in zh.wp - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37591 (10shi zhao) [14:00:20] Reedy: tests/phpunit does not exist hehe [14:00:40] 03(mod) All page history lost in zh.wp - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37591 +shell (10Peter Bena) [14:01:00] lol, useful :D [14:01:47] New review: Hashar; "The reason is that 1.17 does not have tests in /tests but in /maintenance/tests" [mediawiki/core] (REL1_17); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11284 [14:02:12] 03(mod) All page history lost in zh.wp - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37591 +comment (10Peter Bena) [14:03:41] 03(mod) History of a page was lost after several move actions on zhwp - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37591 summary (10Peter Bena) [14:05:56] 03(mod) Addition of CU logs to list of user links in Special:Contributions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37573 +comment (10Marcin Cieślak) [14:06:11] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "Refactored ItemView to untangle html generation from actual output." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11199 [14:06:50] 03(mod) History of a page was lost after several move actions on zhwp - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37591 (10shi zhao) [14:06:54] Reedy: well no idea [14:07:14] Reedy: I am not willing to spend that much time trying to fix Jenkins for 1.17. I guess the easier is just to remove the bot from review :-] [14:07:20] and ignore the build failure meanwhile [14:07:26] Yup [14:07:31] 1.17 goes EOL this month anyway [14:07:49] good to know [14:07:57] are semantic people aware of that? [14:08:12] brrrgrgr [14:08:16] I can't remove Jenkins-bot from reviewer [14:10:12] 03(mod) History of a page was lost after several move actions on zhwp - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37591 +comment (10Liangent) [14:10:59] 03(mod) History of a page was lost after several move actions on zhwp - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37591 +comment (10Liangent) [14:11:39] 03(mod) Addition of CU logs to list of user links in Special:Contributions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37573 +comment (10Will H) [14:11:40] hashar: can you give me merge rights for core? or who would I ask for that? [14:11:55] i need that at least for the Wikidata branch, but wouldn't mind the rights for master, too [14:13:45] _Meow: is this the page we talk about? https://zh.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=20986838 [14:14:01] Platonides: around? [14:14:12] <_Meow> petan: No [14:14:23] Daniel_WMDE_: I need to ask frenchcabal-l [14:14:34] :P [14:14:39] are there are groups I should add for review for my OATHAuth code, and the change to core I need [14:14:40] ? [14:15:21] Daniel_WMDE_: the only page I know of is https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developer_access [14:15:30] Daniel_WMDE_: for Core I have no idea what is the policy :-( [14:15:56] Daniel_WMDE_: I mean for merge right I have no idea what is the policy. I guess that is only ops and platform engineering (aka Rob Lanphier team) for now [14:16:30] Ryan_Lane: it largely depends on the area of the code touched :-( [14:16:36] hashar: really? i thought that would only apply for the deployment branch [14:16:49] hashar: it's in Special:ChangePassword [14:16:54] I added a hook [14:17:02] OATHAuth is authentication code [14:17:10] but the changes are minimal [14:17:28] the changes also have nothing to do with authentication [14:17:32] !spam [14:17:32] For information about combating and handling spam in MediaWiki, see and . [14:18:01] 03(mod) Babel configuration for fo.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37401 +comment (10Dereckson) [14:18:38] 03(mod) History of a page was lost after several move actions on zhwp - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37591 +comment (10Peter Bena) [14:19:07] Daniel_WMDE_: I think you would need to be added to the 'mediawiki' group at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/admin/groups/11,members . Try out on the mw.org page or drop an email to Rob and Chad : robla@wikimedia.org + chadh@wikimedia.org [14:19:41] i'm writing to wikitech-l [14:19:46] yeah or that :-] [14:19:53] that is kind of sledgehammer but that will definitely work [14:19:58] there seems to be continual confusion about this [14:20:04] so perhaps we can clear it up in a public way [14:20:12] sure [14:20:31] I am almost sure we sent an email to wikitech-l telling the reason for merge rights to be restricted [14:20:32] 03(mod) History of a page was lost after several move actions on zhwp - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37591 +comment (10Liangent) [14:20:36] can't find it out though [14:21:57] 03(mod) History of a page was lost after several move actions on zhwp - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37591 +comment (10Liangent) [14:22:01] Ryan_Lane: I am reviewing your patch [14:25:34] 03(mod) History of a page was lost after several move actions on zhwp - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37591 +comment (10shi zhao) [14:28:59] 03(mod) Addition of CU logs to list of user links in Special:Contributions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37573 +comment (10Dereckson) [14:29:40] Does someone know Marcin Cieślak nickname on IRC? [14:30:05] Got it. [14:31:28] 03(mod) History of a page was lost after several move actions on zhwp - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37591 +comment (10Liangent) [14:34:31] hashar: thanks [14:38:20] Ryan_Lane: code is fine :-] sent review on https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/11177/ [14:38:28] thanks [14:38:37] off for a coke and some fresh air will be back in few minutes [14:40:22] well, documenting the fields would assume that the function that actually uses the fields is documented in some way I understand [14:42:48] yeah :-( [14:43:59] !upgrade [14:43:59] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Upgrading [14:45:14] 03(mod) History of a page was lost after several move actions on zhwp - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37591 +comment (10Peter Bena) [14:46:28] 03(mod) History of a page was lost after several move actions on zhwp - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37591 +comment (10shi zhao) [14:50:11] 03(mod) History of a page was lost after several move actions on zhwp - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37591 +comment (10shi zhao) [14:52:46] 03(mod) History of a page was lost after several move actions on zhwp - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37591 +comment (10Peter Bena) [14:55:27] 03(mod) History of a page was lost after several move actions on zhwp - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37591 +comment (10Peter Bena) [14:56:24] 03(FIXED) creation of a new instance for wikistats database history - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37233 +comment (10Daniel Zahn) [14:59:28] 03(mod) History of a page was lost after several move actions on zhwp - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37591 +comment (10shi zhao) [15:03:47] Lcawte: https://docs.google.com/a/python.fi/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dFItTU14dE5QT0VHcG5ZeEtDbm5wWGc6MQ the PyCon Finland call for proposals form is funny enough that it makes me want to submit a proposal [15:05:52] kim_bruning: when you edit a page the URL is /w/index.php?title=wazza [15:05:53] kim_bruning: yeah :-) [15:07:24] kim_bruning: okay, so the correct URL should be /w/extensions/SVGEdit/svg-edit/svgeditor.html [15:09:04] "Try to keep it short even though the field is a textarea.", "I'm proposing a sprint you insensitive clod!" "I'm proposing a sprint. What do you expect?" [15:09:23] Dereckson: and the skill levels include "Guido van Rossum" :-) [15:10:14] kim_bruning: ? [15:10:27] sumanah: Do it then ^.^ [15:11:00] hmmmm [15:11:02] Lcawte: I am unfortunately fairly sure that I cannot go to Espoo in October, nor be technical enough for an audience of programmers. [15:11:17] I wonder if a language creator is always the perso with the more insight on the language [15:11:54] Depends on the language and how large it's gotten [15:12:23] kim_bruning: you think so? hmm, I don't remember that from my /. days, but things change [15:12:33] Dereckson: and how large the ecosystem around the language has gotten! [15:13:42] kim_bruning: I was looking for "Anonymous Coward" and the like :-) [15:14:37] learn something new every day [15:16:54] * sumanah chuckles helplessly [15:17:22] kim_bruning: you may not believe this, but for like a year, a decade ago, I had a cgi script on my blog... every day it displayed a new "in Soviet Russia" jest [15:18:01] btw kim_bruning will you be at Wikimania? [15:19:41] kim_bruning: you know about Harry Burt's work on SVG translation? Jarry1250 is a summer intern working on it [15:19:46] Tpt: hi, got a moment? [15:20:51] kim_bruning: that's too bad. :/ maybe you can host, organize, or attend another sometime soon [15:20:52] !events [15:20:53] We run face-to-face events for MediaWiki developers and people who want to learn: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_developer_meetings We also have online meetings in IRC to triage bugs: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Bug_management/Triage [15:21:06] kim_bruning: I hear people talking about wanting an Amsterdam event [15:21:16] kim_bruning: and you weren't in Berlin for the recent hackathon, I think? :/ [15:21:23] sumanah: Hello! [15:21:55] hi srikanthlogic [15:21:59] kim_bruning: well, neither do I [15:22:12] sumanah: http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/wikihackblr something that's not complete yet, but since you have asking for sometime now.. [15:22:17] kim_bruning: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Jarry1250/GSoC_2012_application in case you want to see the TranslateSVG stuff [15:22:22] kim_bruning: sure [15:22:40] kim_bruning: hey, we are all doing the best we can, right? [15:22:41] why did jenkins fail on this? https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/11177/2 [15:22:57] srikanthlogic: thank you, and I do appreciate it [15:22:59] 03(mod) History of a page was lost after several move actions on zhwp - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37591 +comment (10Peter Bena) [15:22:59] sumanah: also will reply to your mail soon.. We thought we could link this in the reply, since both are related [15:23:28] srikanthlogic: I can understand that! [15:23:40] srikanthlogic: I am very grateful for your on-the-ground expertise on this. [15:24:32] sumanah: thank you, wish we could do things better :) [15:25:02] srikanthlogic: as far as I can tell, you're doing the right things -- iterating, learning, reflecting [15:26:06] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "Refactored ItemView to untangle html generation from actual output." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11293 [15:26:12] srikanthlogic: and you and YuviPanda|Food are *being bold* in your approach, which I hope the rest of the Indian Wikimedia community is also doing .... [15:26:20] as Goethe said, "Whatever you do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius and power and magic in it." [15:26:36] sumanah: I am not sure if sending out invites late(days before the event) puts some people off as their calendars' are filled. May be should be sending little earlier [15:26:51] srikanthlogic: Like "defense in depth" I think one also must "invite in depth" [15:27:48] Ryan_Lane: I have merged your hook ( https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/11177/ ) [15:27:51] Change abandoned: Daniel Kinzler; "superceded by I0a00e041" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11199 [15:28:04] sumanah: hmm.. will turn down lurkers effectively [15:28:05] srikanthlogic: in terms of time (weeks ahead + days ahead + night before) as well as media (word-of-mouth, mailing lists, personal nudging, social media, previous participants, independent radio...) [15:28:49] srikanthlogic: no, I mean, like how "defense in depth" means redundant defenses at different layers. [15:28:55] hi [15:29:15] hi mahadeva [15:29:15] [15:29:26] * mahadeva waves [15:29:28] Ryan_Lane: that's weird, it's like the bot thought the tests didn't exist? [15:29:42] sumanah: hmm [15:29:43] https://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/MediaWiki-GIT-Fetching/2202/ [15:29:50] sumanah: which one? [15:29:58] oh [15:30:00] heh [15:30:01] right [15:30:05] I have no clue [15:31:02] Ryan_Lane: also happened in https://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/MediaWiki-GIT-Fetching/2165/ re https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/10395/ where Krinkle says: [15:31:04] "From the jenkins-bot link, Console output: [15:31:04] CONFLICT (content): Merge conflict in includes/resourceloader/ResourceLoaderLanguageDataModule.php [15:31:04] Needs to be rebased." [15:31:17] Ryan_Lane: so, try that? [15:31:27] eh? [15:31:35] that's not something in my chnage [15:31:45] sumanah: Yeah, click Console output on the jenkins link, that should usually tell you whats going on [15:32:03] or Ryan_Lane :) [15:32:22] again, that file wasn't even in my change [15:32:32] 15:11:28 CONFLICT (content): Merge conflict in RELEASE-NOTES-1.20 [15:32:41] Ryan_Lane: I mean, the same kind of weird "(none)" issue happened to that other thing [15:32:42] https://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/MediaWiki-GIT-Fetching/2202/console [15:33:18] kim_bruning: I sure hope MaxSem & Harry are in communication with the localisation team about what they're doing? But I haven't kept close enough tabs on it [15:33:34] If the root job (that aggregates the other tests) doesn't get past the initialization it will not kick off the child jobs, that explains the "none". [15:33:54] merging is part of init. [15:34:07] kim_bruning, sumanah, furthermore - there will be no TranslateSVG, just translate [15:34:25] mahadeva: srikanthlogic & I are talking about why their Bangalore event didn't go as bounteously well as their previous hackdays had [15:35:22] MaxSem: ah, https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:TranslateSvg is being obsoleted? [15:35:51] as current plans say, yes [15:36:04] MaxSem: then the extension page should say that, and I'll update it. [15:36:07] 03(mod) History of a page was lost after several move actions on zhwp - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37591 +comment (10shi zhao) [15:36:15] let Jarry do it [15:36:49] of course, it's just a summer project so everything can change [15:37:06] 03(mod) Addition of CU logs to list of user links in Special:Contributions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37573 +comment (10Marcin Cieślak) [15:37:24] Hey. [15:37:30] kim_bruning: I try to do that sort of thing, but I also try to encourage other people to do it, because if people depend on me to do it then that's lossy and stressful [15:38:09] 03(mod) History of a page was lost after several move actions on zhwp - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37591 +comment (10shi zhao) [15:38:28] MaxSem: I added an obsoletion tag just to ensure random passers-by don't get the wrong idea. Harry can clean it up and be all articulate [15:39:10] kim_bruning: Please update tfm for svgedit. [15:39:14] ;-) [15:41:56] saper: will you be at Wikimania? I don't see you in https://wikimania2012.wikimedia.org/wiki/Hackathon [15:42:37] sumanah: I have 3 talks to deliver there I hope I will make it :) [15:43:13] saper: oh! :D and will you be at the pre-Wikimania hackathon, Jul 10-11? If so, it would be great if you put your name down and even talked in the Sprint section about what you want to do there [15:43:59] zocky: now that you have your computer again :) you can use http://vimeo.com/43340919 to help with your journey into Lua [15:44:19] sumanah: added a placeholder info :) [15:44:40] Are those videos going on commons any time soon? [15:44:48] Reedy: The deadline is July 9th [15:44:58] Reedy: that is, the deadline we gave the video company [15:45:09] 03(NEW) The drop-down menu for filters is not opening initially with Google Chrome - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37592 normal; MediaWiki extensions: ArticleFeedbackv5; (pginer) [15:45:10] right [15:45:17] sumanah: thanks for the pointer! [15:45:25] Reedy: I've also finagled getting the *audio* sooner so that Danielle can use it to update the written docs sooner [15:45:35] Reedy: she's doing that this week [15:45:42] 03(mod) The drop-down menu for filters is not opening initially with Google Chrome - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37592 +aftv5-1.5 (10Pau Giner) [15:45:57] Reedy: believe me, I'm probably even more impatient than you are. [15:46:07] I'm not impatient [15:46:11] I've just seen this happen before ;) [15:46:26] Reedy: yeah, I know :/ [15:46:49] Reedy: I'm impatient because the longer those videos aren't in our possession, the greater the chances of meteorites, etc [15:49:43] New review: Aude; "everything works including special pages, tests pass, looks okay" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 1 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11293 [15:50:48] sumanah: : hi. [15:51:20] Tpt: so, Zaran is visiting Wikimedia HQ next week and I thought you might want to tell him anything you want him to bring up while he's talking to other MediaWiki experts [15:51:22] :) [15:51:38] about ProofreadPage, code review, process, deployments, etc [15:51:56] Good news ! [15:52:01] sumanah, srikanthlogic: :-( [15:52:06] I'll talk to him. [15:52:27] mahadeva: but hey, what this implies is: we're trying different things, we're learning, and we can figure out how to do better next time [15:52:38] mahadeva: and, they've had pretty good success in the past! so we know it's possible to do better. [15:52:42] 03(NEW) some deleted instances are still around - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37593 normal; Wikimedia Labs: General; (hashar) [15:52:44] we just have to investigate and fix. [15:52:58] Tpt: great! [15:53:15] we have a list of almost 20 people willing to attend to our programming workshop [15:53:22] 03(NEW) flag count not updated when unflagging a post - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37594 normal; MediaWiki extensions: ArticleFeedbackv5; (pginer) [15:53:24] 03(mod) flag count not updated when unflagging a post - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37594 +aftv5-1.5 (10Pau Giner) [15:53:24] probably we're going to do it in September [15:53:44] mahadeva: oh that's great. have you ever heard of OpenHatch? [15:53:51] no, what's that? [15:53:58] * mahadeva googling it [15:54:15] 03(mod) some deleted instances are still around - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37593 +comment (10Hydra) [15:54:49] interesting... [15:55:03] mahadeva: openhatch.org is a group that provides resources for people wanting to get into open source for the first time. They advise on or organize events, as well. [15:55:03] mahadeva: In this case I think they won't put on your event for you :D but if you look at some of their past events you can get ideas about how to encourage newbies, if that's your aim. [15:55:22] mahadeva: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Volunteer_coordination_and_outreach/Event_planning has a rough checklist -- the most important things are: power, wifi, and putting up a public page somewhere to help me publicize your event :D we have a template on mediawiki.org in case you just want to do that [15:55:27] I'm reading "open advice" in my kindle [15:55:35] mahadeva: ooh! I know guillom contributed to that [15:55:57] it has a lot of suggestions about encouraging FOSS activities [15:56:12] wifi... yes, i'm worried about that [15:57:30] that article is great! [15:57:33] thanks! [15:58:55] mahadeva: join #openhatch with me and we'll talk more? Lcawte and srikanthlogic and YuviPanda you may want to join us, as I'd like to talk shop a little re event planning [15:59:01] heh, it links to hackdaymanifesto.com [15:59:03] ooooh [15:59:04] hi mahadeva [15:59:05] I've signed that page [15:59:08] YuviPanda, hey! [16:05:20] petan: around? [16:05:54] 03(NEW) Special:Articles should at least have a message on it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37595 normal; MediaWiki extensions: EducationProgram; (sam) [16:07:46] 03(mod) Write attempts to wiki API from toolserver timeout - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37536 +comment (10Mark Bergsma) [16:10:07] petan: which patches? [16:11:43] 03(NEW) Tooltip to clarify the remove flag action - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37596 normal; MediaWiki extensions: ArticleFeedbackv5; (pginer) [16:11:53] 03(mod) Tooltip to clarify the remove flag action - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37596 +aftv5-1.5 (10Pau Giner) [16:13:40] Hello [16:13:50] hi Giorgios [16:14:03] kim_bruning: I could not resist the joke! congrats on the fix. [16:14:20] I require assistance [16:14:30] http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/2131/ad552940fd1d481ea82ff97.png [16:14:30] !ask | Giorgios [16:14:30] Giorgios: Hi, how can we help you? Just ask your question. [16:14:31] How do I get rid of this [16:14:39] * sumanah looks [16:14:43] ha! [16:14:54] When I go to login, it gives me that error [16:15:03] Warning: php_uname() has been disabled for security reasons in /home/wikihut/public_html/includes/GlobalFunctions.php on line 2448 [16:15:20] Giorgios: have you tried searching the web for that error? [16:16:54] yes [16:16:57] and nothing found [16:17:09] ok, what's on line 2447 in that file? [16:19:23] http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/2143/0532aa96e7ac44758d76e64.png [16:19:42] 1.19.0 [16:19:53] No [16:20:24] i am being hosted for now [16:21:31] biab [16:22:21] SOL? [16:22:23] 03(NEW) Assignments in loop conditionals - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37597 normal; MediaWiki extensions: EducationProgram; (sam) [16:22:43] why [16:23:08] where is this found [16:23:15] the disabled thingie [16:23:18] New review: Daniel Werner; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11293 [16:23:29] ? [16:23:39] if you are using a shared hosting enviornment (e.g. you don't own the server), you can't control stuff like that [16:23:52] im using my friends server [16:23:54] however [16:24:01] i do own my own hosting company [16:24:28] and i co-own with another guy [16:24:34] so we share the server [16:24:40] but I have full rights over it [16:24:57] how do i get there [16:25:03] login to ssh [16:25:22] for my hosting company [16:25:24] yes [16:25:49] no [16:26:11] I will :P [16:26:16] nano is dead easy to use [16:26:18] Change merged: Aude; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11293 [16:26:38] ok [16:26:48] try [16:26:50] *true [16:27:14] this is my PC [16:27:26] not a company computer [16:27:29] I also think he doesn't actually know what he is talking about... [16:28:03] xp sp3 [16:28:36] yes it does [16:28:48] he's talking about the pc he is currently sitting at, not the server the wiki is running on [16:28:49] wtf [16:29:32] I work hosting support :P [16:29:44] very little is below my clue floor >_> [16:30:21] LWJGL 2.8.4, 12w24a [16:30:23] java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/lwjgl/util/glu/GLU [16:30:34] im not sure [16:30:40] 03(mod) migrates Apaches boxes to precise - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37500 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [16:30:43] Giorgios: if I may ask, what URL is your wiki? [16:30:48] 03(mod) migrates Apaches boxes to precise - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37500 (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [16:31:15] Oops, wrong channel [16:31:25] Change abandoned: Aude; "obsolete" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11275 [16:31:30] I just realized this isn't #minecraft [16:31:32] lol [16:31:43] 03(mod) migrates Apaches boxes to precise - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37500 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [16:32:44] wikihut.tk [16:34:12] yes [16:34:58] whoop [16:35:04] it has WHM, this makes my life easy [16:35:14] i did [16:35:44] Giorgios: do you have the login to https://wikihut.tk:2087 (ignore the SSL error) [16:36:51] let me login to my root admin cpanel/whm [16:36:56] yes [16:38:46] 1 sec [16:39:52] let me know when you get in [16:40:02] ok [16:40:09] you logged in as root, correct? [16:41:44] almost [16:42:33] kim_bruning: prepare to be underwhelmed [16:42:57] * Skizzerz waits [16:43:19] i will be back [16:43:24] uh [16:43:36] I likely won't be, so sucks to be you? [16:44:03] maybe this way someone with more technical knowledge can actually fix the issue though, which is beneficial [16:44:57] I gotta say, this is kind of entertaining [16:45:12] not my tech skills, his tech skills [16:45:13] :P [16:45:39] kim_bruning, hobby! Thanks for asking :) [16:46:10] logged in [16:46:22] oh, he literally was back [16:46:32] yep ;) [16:46:39] They're often less impressive than youtube...but it's a fun way to expand your world, to be sure [16:47:01] Giorgios: go to Service Configuration -> PHP Configuration Editor [16:47:23] then hit the toggle for "Advanced Mode" [16:47:39] ok [16:47:42] Find disabled_functions (you'll have to scroll down a lot, ctrl+f might help to find it) [16:47:59] Then on the Value in the far right column, copy/paste what it says here [16:48:23] found nothing with disabled_functions [16:48:27] uh [16:48:50] are you sure you're still getting that "disabled for security reasons" error then? [16:49:03] yes [16:49:24] what URL are you viewing that is showing that error? [16:49:41] http://wikihut.tk/index.php?title=Special:UserLogin&returnto=Main+Page [16:50:05] Giorgios: wait, did you not find disabled_functions on that list or did you find it but the box was empty? [16:50:19] on the list i did not find it [16:50:23] oh [16:50:27] sorry, it's disable_functions [16:50:40] search for that instead [16:52:07] did you find anything? [16:52:09] yes [16:52:10] found it [16:52:54] ok, before I have you edit it, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions [16:53:02] one, you do own/co-own the server, correct? [16:53:27] yes [16:53:32] two, is anyone you do not trust using the server or is it just being used by you/your friends? [16:53:43] its a hosting comapny [16:53:49] what can happen if we edit it [16:53:49] ok [16:53:57] what is the current value of disable_functions [16:54:29] I'm just going to instruct you to remove the stupid entries while keeping the ones needed for a hosting company to operate without a high level of abuse [16:54:34] dl dl dl [16:54:46] is that it? [16:54:50] yes [16:54:53] hmm [16:55:06] sigh [16:55:19] well, that isn't going to work well then [16:55:28] why [16:55:55] it means you're using a custom php setup instead of the default whm cpanel setup (which there is nothing wrong with that, mind you), but it means that it requires more legwork to edit/fix [16:56:21] however, chances are it's also full of security holes, so mind if I attempt to test that theory? [16:56:53] go ahead [16:57:11] ok, in Service Configuration -> Configure PHP and SuExec, what does it say for PHP 5? [16:57:27] *PHP 5 Handler [16:57:49] EasyApache is currently upgrading your Apache and PHP installation. [16:58:00] ... [16:58:08] >_< [16:58:25] try again in an hour [16:58:47] or [16:59:00] gah [16:59:17] kim_bruning: because despite being easy for newbies, cpanel/whm is among the crappiest systems I have ever seen [17:00:24] <^demon> My problem with it is that it completely butchers your system. You end up *having* to do everything the cpanel way or you break your system. [17:01:24] not entirely [17:01:35] you just have to be /really good/ at backdooring it [17:02:10] but it does do a lot of dumb things, like not logging to /var/log for instance [17:03:44] kim_bruning: I can't find the "5" key [17:04:56] :( [17:05:54] copy/paste [17:05:56] :P [17:06:07] ok [17:06:13] also, I joined ################################################## but nobody was there [17:06:40] 03(NEW) Blackberry 9550 fails to load - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37599 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend; (jrobson) [17:08:01] uh [17:08:05] what's an irc? [17:08:09] this chat [17:08:23] internet relay chat [17:08:42] <^demon> is that what they call this? [17:08:47] yep [17:08:56] not bad for a 17 year old [17:09:39] back in my day, we had these dancers on our chats [17:09:50] <^demon> I never knew IRC and I were the same age. [17:09:55] you folks and your newfangled ircd-sevens [17:10:31] <^demon> I'm 3 months older than IRC :) [17:10:43] /dcc send mediawiki_1.20wmf4 [17:11:06] eh, i mean , get a place in bot queue :p [17:11:14] <^demon> Wouldn't checking out the branch be faster than dcc? :) [17:11:56] ^demon: heh, it just brought back memories about IRC [17:12:29] <^demon> kim_bruning: Links may be stripped from svgs, but I'm just guessing tbh. [17:13:22] 03(mod) Addition of CU logs to list of user links in Special:Contributions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37573 +comment (10Félix M. (elfix)) [17:13:44] so [17:13:50] who owns a wiki here? [17:13:58] <^demon> kim_bruning: I know there's at least some sanitizing in the svgs, dunno if links are among them. [17:14:18] vector all the things? [17:14:30] <^demon> giorgios_: Define "owns" -- I've currently got at least half a dozen wikis running that are "mine" :) [17:14:45] <^demon> kim_bruning: No. Some stuff in svg is scary :) [17:14:51] define "owns" -- I've got a couple hundred wikis that are "mine" as well :P [17:15:13] <^demon> kim_bruning: javascript, iirc. [17:15:19] you admin it [17:16:08] <^demon> giorgios_: Well I've got about 5 wikis running on my localhost. I've got shell access to wmf wikis so that's another ~1000 or so (but they're not /mine/ to mess with). [17:16:12] <^demon> :) [17:16:24] kim_bruning: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:AnyWikiDraw [17:17:13] kim_bruning: yea, using an applet [17:17:14] reedy@fenari:/home/wikipedia/common$ wc -l all.dblist [17:17:14] 855 all.dblist [17:17:16] I have a couple on localhost, thetestwiki.org, and I currently own the server shoutwiki runs on, although I don't mess with those wikis [17:17:34] <^demon> Reedy: Only 855? Thought we were over 900 by now. [17:17:39] kim_bruning: but it's cross-wiki engine [17:20:15] you own the server? [17:21:00] 03(mod) Image thumbnailing on WAMP sometimes locks up - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37539 +comment (10Krenair) [17:22:18] kim_bruning: also interesting are the ones experimenting with VRML and other 3d stuff [17:23:51] !prettyurl [17:23:51] To create simple URLs (such as the /wiki/PAGENAME style URLs on Wikimedia sites), follow the instructions at . There are instructions for most different webserver setups. If you have problems getting the rewrite rules to work, see !rewriteproblem [17:24:12] Augh. [17:24:40] * marktraceur might need to compile HTML into WikiText, in a completely *separate* way from current Parsoid efforts.... [17:24:51] Bright side: Less complicated [17:24:57] Down side: Reinvent the wheel [17:27:18] kim_bruning, this is sort of a new project, hence the need for reinvention [17:27:35] The previous wheels were round, but now I'm driving on a differently-shaped road [17:28:00] kim_bruning, http://www.math.hmc.edu/funfacts/ffiles/10001.2-3-8.shtml [17:28:26] *nods* you know, in analogy [17:29:49] And kim_bruning, I feel your pain [17:30:15] I built an SVG-based tool with Firefox, it was very frustrating [17:31:55] kim_bruning, try finding text inside of it [17:32:14] (spoiler: it won't work) [17:32:33] 03(NEW) WikiPageTest::testDoDeleteUpdates fails on PostgreSQL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37600 normal; MediaWiki: Unit tests; (marcin.cieslak) [17:38:44] 03(FIXED) Blackberry 9550 fails to load - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37599 +comment (10Jon) [17:43:04] 03(FIXED) Admins & hidden edit / abuse filters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37335 +comment (10Krenair) [17:48:34] 03(NEW) Tests introduced in tests/phpunit/includes/db/TestORMRowTest.php fail on PostgreSQL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37601 normal; MediaWiki: Database; (marcin.cieslak) [17:48:50] yo [17:48:55] yes [17:49:07] I mean yo ;) [17:54:51] kim_bruning: back i the day (2004 or so) i did some testing with SVG in [17:54:59] fallback behavior was not as good as i liked. [17:55:03] would be worth re-checking i suppose [17:55:17] for modern browsers we really just want but it has no fallback :P [17:58:35] browser detection doesn't play well with http caching [17:58:47] also not all browsers advertise img/svg+xml in their Accept headers [18:00:09] :D [18:00:16] 03(NEW) Jenkins should run PostgreSQL unit tests by default as well - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37602 major; Wikimedia: Testing Infrastructure; (marcin.cieslak) [18:00:18] brb [18:00:35] 03(mod) Jenkins should run PostgreSQL unit tests by default as well - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37602 major->minor (10Marcin Cieślak) [18:02:30] 03(mod) Addition of CU logs to list of user links in Special:Contributions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37573 +comment (10Marcin Cieślak) [18:02:49] 03(mod) New page Special:Userinfo - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22516 (10Marcin Cieślak) [18:03:47] 03(mod) New page Special:Userinfo - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22516 +comment (10Marcin Cieślak) [18:04:18] 03(mod) Tests introduced in tests/phpunit/includes/db/TestORMRowTest.php fail on PostgreSQL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37601 +comment (10Aaron Schulz) [18:05:46] !account [18:05:47] There is no such key, you probably want to try: !autoconfirmed, !blacklist, !centralauth, !cookies, !git, !gitaccount, !renameuser, !userapproval, [18:06:01] !userapproval [18:06:01] To require approval before accounts can edit, see . Alternatively, remove edit rights from all users, and create a new user group like with edit rights; a bureaucrat can then add users to the group. See [18:06:47] 03raymond * 10/trunk/translatewiki/MediaWiki/WikimediaAgg.yaml: Education program deployed on test2 [18:09:56] 04(REOPENED) Internet Explorer mobile browser displays error for Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33649 +comment (10Jon) [18:16:11] !spam [18:16:11] For information about combating and handling spam in MediaWiki, see and . [18:42:13] 03(NEW) German Wikipedia is unaccessable on Opera Mobile for Symbian OS / broken Skin - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37603 blocker; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (marius.spix) [18:49:40] 03(mod) German Wikipedia is unaccessable on Opera Mobile for Symbian OS / broken Skin - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37603 (10marius.spix) [18:55:29] 03(mod) History of a page was lost after several move actions on zhwp - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37591 +comment (10Liangent) [18:57:45] New patchset: L10n-bot; "Localisation updates from http://translatewiki.net." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11344 [18:58:26] 03raymond * 10/trunk/extensions/ (19 files in 19 dirs): Localisation updates from http://translatewiki.net. [18:58:36] New review: L10n-bot; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11344 [18:58:37] Change merged: L10n-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11344 [19:11:12] 03(NEW) Upgrade jquery.cookie - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37604 minor; MediaWiki: JavaScript; (mtraceur) [19:12:33] marktraceur: You can just make a commit for that sort of thing [19:12:46] Krinkle will likely CR it [19:13:03] Huh [19:13:23] OK, I'll do that then [19:14:01] lol [19:14:07] We're using a version copyrighted in 2006 [19:17:23] The problem becomes, I'm not sure that the changes are backwards-compatible [19:17:33] How could they not be? [19:17:38] $.cookie() has a very simple API [19:18:20] Well, the difference that confused me was that previously, extra options were defined in an object [19:18:33] In the new version, it's just a longer list of arguments [19:18:36] it's wrapped differntly, but hte same function parameters [19:18:55] fail [19:21:00] 03(mod) History of a page was lost after several move actions on zhwp - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37591 +comment (10shi zhao) [19:31:23] 03(mod) migrates Apaches boxes to precise - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37500 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [19:36:44] Krenair: you seem to be racking up a pretty good record :) https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/dashboard/98 [19:37:28] 03(mod) TMH: video files are not playing in Safari - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37514 +comment (10Brion Vibber) [19:37:46] That's not all my changes, just recently closed ones. These are all of my changes: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/owner:krenair%2540gmail.com,n,z [19:38:07] but yeah, I've been making the odd easy fix here and there [19:38:28] Krenair: well, I thank you [19:39:22] Krenair: might be time for you to start reviewing a bit as well [19:40:22] Krenair: you've been working mostly in core, it looks like, so I'll ask you to help review a bit in core [19:47:03] 03(NEW) Double curation bar when using 'Mark as patrolled', then 'Mark as Unreviewed' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37605 major; MediaWiki extensions: PageTriage; (fflorin) [19:48:19] 03(mod) Double curation bar when using 'Mark as patrolled', then 'Mark as Unreviewed' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37605 +comment (10Fabrice Florin) [19:48:39] 03(mod) Double curation bar when using 'Mark as patrolled', then 'Mark as Unreviewed' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37605 (10Fabrice Florin) [20:09:08] New patchset: L10n-bot; "Localisation updates from http://translatewiki.net." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11542 [20:11:30] 03siebrand * 10/trunk/extensions/ (341 files in 335 dirs): Localisation updates from http://translatewiki.net. [20:12:30] New review: L10n-bot; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11542 [20:12:31] Change merged: L10n-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11542 [20:15:08] 03(NEW) Curation toolbar should expand to right when moved to left - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37606 normal; MediaWiki extensions: PageTriage; (erik) [20:22:23] 03(mod) Article Feedback - CTA 4: Join the community - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36771 +comment (10Matthias Mullie) [20:25:20] 03(mod) Tracking bug for 0.9 release of WLM app - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37577 +tracking (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [20:25:39] 03(NEW) Error in installation (mw-config) for a new wiki. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37607 normal; MediaWiki extensions: ArticleFeedback; (jeancarlo) [20:28:09] 03(mod) Error in installation (mw-config) for a new wiki. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37607 +comment (10Jean Carlo) [20:30:55] 03(mod) Error in installation (mw-config) for a new wiki. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37607 +comment (10Liangent) [20:32:40] 03(FIXED) Install Narayam in Gujarati Wiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37365 +comment (10Raimond Spekking) [20:32:59] 03siebrand * 10/trunk/translatewiki/MediaWiki/mediawiki-defines.txt: Add support for a bunch of extensions: Access Control, Did You Know, Echo, OATH Auth, Page Images, Premoderation, Scribunto, Semantic Expressiveness. [20:48:02] 03(NEW) Getting Greek Wikinews into Google News - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37608 normal; MediaWiki extensions: [other]; (brian.mcneil) [20:51:02] 03(mod) Getting Greek Wikinews into Google News - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37608 +shell; +comment (10Brian McNeil) [20:51:21] 03(mod) Getting Greek Wikinews into Google News - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37608 (10Brian McNeil) [20:51:32] 03(mod) Getting Greek Wikinews into Google News - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37608 (10Brian McNeil) [20:52:08] 03(mod) Update GeSHi library when a new version is available - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37585 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [20:52:34] hi. i'm having some trouble with $wgGroupPermissions. for this particular wiki, i'd like to require authentication for all access. this works, but with the side effect that when visiting the main page, a "permissions errors" message is displayed instead of a "login required" message. [20:53:27] 03(mod) Article Feedback - My Contributions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36773 (10Fabrice Florin) [20:53:35] 03(mod) Article Feedback - My Contributions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36773 15enhancement->major (10Fabrice Florin) [20:54:04] i'm using group names other than the default/built in groups, and thus am emptying $wgGroupPermissions - i've foudn that adding back $wgGroupPermissions['user']['read'] = true allows the login message, but i'm confused as to why this is needed. [20:54:25] it also seems to defeat the purpose a bit of having my custom group names. [20:56:27] 03(mod) Article Feedback 5 - Prevent users from promoting their own posts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37532 summary (10Fabrice Florin) [21:06:36] 03(mod) write a job loop to handle webVideoTranscode jobs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37470 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [21:12:18] 03(mod) Getting Greek Wikinews into Google News - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37608 normal->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [21:13:55] 03(mod) Article Feedback Page - Show the user's last post at the top of the page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36649 +comment (10Reha Sterbin) [21:13:59] So i'm having some problems figure out how to query for what I need with the api, how would you get http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Taxobox/doc#Animal_species from say http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cattle [21:16:45] 03(mod) WikiEditor doesn't appear on vec.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37586 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [21:17:14] 03(mod) WikiEditor doesn't appear on vec.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37586 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [21:17:29] what i don't understand is why that permission would matter - when the page is visited, the client has no logged in, so why would the user group need read access? [21:17:34] 03(mod) WikiEditor doesn't appear on vec.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37586 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [21:19:21] 03(mod) WikiEditor doesn't appear on vec.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37586 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [21:20:23] wikibugs fuck it [21:20:29] 03(mod) [UserRights] - The order of the checkboxes suddenly changed for no reason - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37584 normal->minor (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [21:21:03] 03(mod) Tokens-API should be a query module - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36078 +comment (10Marcin Cieślak) [21:21:36] hadees: you'll have to get the page text and then use regex or similar to get the infobox and it's content [21:21:50] Reedy: really? i can't just get that one specific template? [21:22:03] no, it's not abstracted in any way current [21:22:04] ly [21:22:07] it's just part of the wikitext [21:22:35] Reedy: alright, so how do I get just the current page for say Cattle? [21:22:59] Reedy, to be honest I wouldn't call that user rights checkbox order bug minor. it's trivial [21:23:05] are there any good ruby parsers for mediawiki content? i didn't see any that great. [21:23:11] action=query&prop=info|revisions&intoken=edit&titles=Main%20Page&rvprop=timestamp|user|comment|content [21:23:18] Krenair: my point was it's not normal ;) [21:24:15] Reedy: is there anyway to at least limit my search to pages with taxobox? [21:24:40] hadees: you can get the api to give you all the pages that include certain templates, yes [21:26:56] 03(mod) Update GeSHi library when a new version is available - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37585 normal->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [21:28:24] man [21:28:34] that 'Deep Web' thing just blew my mind [21:28:39] have you been there? [21:32:13] 03(mod) Addition of CU logs to list of user links in Special:Contributions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37573 +comment (10MZMcBride) [21:32:56] 03(mod) List of Gerrit users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35508 -easy (10Chad H.) [21:41:27] gutis89, lol wut? [21:41:33] Deep Web? [21:45:11] 03(mod) List of Gerrit users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35508 +comment (10Platonides) [21:50:21] 03(mod) Error in installation (mw-config) for a new wiki. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37607 +comment (10Jean Carlo) [21:51:26] hey I want to put [[[ as test in a wiki article how do i character escape? [21:53:48] moringinzz: BLAH [21:54:31] 03(mod) Error in installation (mw-config) for a new wiki. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37607 +comment (10Platonides) [21:55:06] hmm, damn i'm using wikidot [21:55:08] it doesn't work for that [21:58:09] moringinzz, wikidot doesn't use mediawiki [21:58:36] why were you asking here? :) [21:59:02] you saying they built own wiki platform? [21:59:13] looks so [21:59:16] 03(mod) Mobile browser autodetection doesn't work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36894 +comment (10Jon) [21:59:20] at least it's not mediawiki [22:00:45] 14(DUP) mw.loader.load() sometimes loads modules twice in Firefox - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37609 +comment (10Ryan Kaldari) [22:00:46] 03(mod) mw.loader.load() sometimes loads modules twice in Firefox - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37331 +comment (10Ryan Kaldari) [22:01:09] Wikidot.com is the world's third-largest wiki farm, [22:01:14] who is top 2? [22:03:05] third one according to whom? [22:05:06] * AaronSchulz fears that the amqp pecl extension might suck a bit [22:05:26] <^demon> PEAR is the most useless piece of crap ever. [22:05:34] <^demon> http://pear.php.net/package/Net_SSH2/ - "No releases have been made" [22:05:40] <^demon> Why bother setting up the damn project? [22:06:27] heh, I have to get this extension from some git repos and do the configure/make calls [22:06:41] trying to do pear install won't work [22:07:05] ^demon: at first it wouldn't compile, till I released the hg repo I cloned was a stub and they moved to git [22:07:06] 03(mod) Addition of CU logs to list of user links in Special:Contributions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37573 +comment (10Marcin Cieślak) [22:07:19] still can't get it to compile, lots of mismatched function signatures [22:07:32] <^demon> People are silly. [22:07:33] * AaronSchulz checks if the RabbitMQ server install at least worked [22:08:55] seems to be running [22:09:04] 03(mod) mw.loader.load() sometimes loads modules twice in Firefox - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37331 +comment (10Ryan Kaldari) [22:09:22] AaronSchulz: what are you looking at ampq for? [22:09:26] I have rabbitmq [22:09:28] *hate [22:10:31] hate? :( [22:11:05] Ryan_Lane: why? [22:11:52] because mnesia doesn't allow you to change a host's IP or hostname [22:12:39] 03(mod) Article Feedback - My Contributions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36773 +comment (10Matthias Mullie) [22:13:04] you have to take down the node, and fun a conversion script [22:13:08] *run [22:13:51] I need some help setting up mediawiki, it says there are no suitable drivers found: http://puu.sh/AYd6, this is the phpinfo() page: http://puu.sh/AYeN, and "php -m": http://puu.sh/AYfs I'm trying to use SQLite but it's not detecting any database drivers at all. Any idea what's wrong? [22:14:00] http://lists.rabbitmq.com/pipermail/rabbitmq-discuss/2010-February/006313.html [22:14:18] "The simplest way to get you fixed is to clear out the database dir. [22:14:18] That's assuming that you can stand losing any persisted exchanges etc." [22:14:29] AaronSchulz: ^^ [22:14:34] 03(mod) Article Feedback - My Contributions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36773 major->15enhancement; +comment (10Matthias Mullie) [22:14:38] drl, mabe you also need sqlite3 module? [22:14:59] I thought it wasn't needed, but you already have pdo and pdo_sqlite... :S [22:14:59] AaronSchulz: that makes me want to stab, directly in the face [22:15:01] :) [22:16:10] weird [22:16:18] anything else? [22:16:35] no, otherwise it's been fairly stable for my small use of it [22:16:38] do we have any convention to name static class members? [22:16:45] but that's something that puts rage hate into me [22:16:48] not really surprising that you lose your messages with mnesia... xD [22:16:58] saper, I don't think so [22:16:59] since I've had to rename the stupid box twice [22:17:36] "RabbitMQ 2.2.0 contains a workaround for this - the path to Mnesia now [22:17:36] contains the hostname, so if the hostname changes the old database will [22:17:36] not be found and a new one will be created." [22:17:37] hahaha [22:17:56] so, if we see the hostname change, we just forget we ever had data [22:17:57] right [22:17:59] smart [22:18:22] Platonides: it says I have the sqlite3 module in php -m, do I need to do something else to let mediawiki use it? [22:19:24] AaronSchulz: I'd try a few, though. I've heard good things about qpid [22:21:20] in any case it will suck if the pecl extension is bugg [22:21:24] true [22:21:25] *buggy [22:21:29] which it probably is [22:21:29] also consider zeromq [22:21:40] what are you trying to solve [22:21:41] ? [22:22:05] an alternative job queue [22:22:17] hah [22:22:24] I was sprinting on that [22:22:28] at the hackathon [22:22:37] AaronSchulz: lemme add you to the labs project [22:22:45] but maybe ours is so good we can't find anything better...[snicker] [22:22:51] we were looking at redis and zeromq [22:22:58] redis isn't a queue per-se [22:23:04] so is RabbitMQ out of the question? [22:23:09] but, it has a few things that make it a good option [22:23:14] AaronSchulz: no [22:23:16] redis has sets and lists [22:23:26] you can make it work like a queue easily [22:23:30] I guess one could hack some stuff [22:23:35] and its php extension is nice [22:23:41] also, we could use it for sessions [22:23:44] and it has replication [22:23:45] Ryan_Lane: we want a queue and a very rough queue [22:24:06] "rough" as in, any of the first X jobs can be done in any order [22:24:15] why's that needed? [22:24:23] I know why it was for mysql based queue [22:24:37] but if the queue system does round-robin without waiting for responses, it's all the same [22:25:01] with the mysql system it needed to do that because there was a high probability of collisions [22:25:07] because there's no atomic pop [22:25:16] with a real queue that's not necessary [22:25:25] 03(mod) Addition of CU logs to list of user links in Special:Contributions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37573 +comment (10AGK) [22:26:00] do we care if servers pop a job and then die? [22:26:01] AaronSchulz: this was an interesting read for redis: http://blog.meltingice.net/programming/creating-processing-queues-redis/ [22:26:17] the same can happen in the current system [22:26:29] right, but that's no excuse to not revisit the handling of it [22:26:40] if we're worried about it, the daemon can wait for a return from a runner [22:26:47] and if it isn't successful, it can push it back in [22:27:07] also: https://github.com/nicolasff/phpredis [22:27:15] I'd like a daemon that supports that, like RabbitMQs ACKs [22:27:19] specifically "Session handler" :) [22:27:34] * Ryan_Lane nods [22:27:42] we were going to evaluate a few choices [22:28:21] so, we also wanted pub/sub support [22:28:32] we can use multiple things, if needed [22:28:35] for email stuff? [22:28:37] no [22:28:39] for wikidata [22:28:47] ahh, makes sense [22:28:53] their portion of the job queue needs to act like a feed [22:28:57] not like a queue [22:29:22] yeah, I was reading about publish/subscribe for rabbitmq [22:29:43] most of uses won't need that, but it might work well for wikidata [22:29:44] ideally, we'd have this accessible via a proxy for third parties [22:30:04] so that third parties can also do invalidations in their own wikis [22:30:09] and use the same method as us [22:30:25] (think instant-wikidata, like instant-commons) [22:31:03] if an exchange is subscribed to by foreign queues, we need to be less strict in waiting for responses [22:31:25] hmm, is there a requirements page anywhere? [22:31:31] nope [22:31:36] ahh, too soon [22:31:36] it was a sprint ;) [22:32:03] we didn't get terribly far because I was confounded by mediawiki's current queuing support. heh [22:32:22] I'm still trying to get RenameUser off the queue [22:32:25] heh [22:32:34] it's quite dreadful [22:32:38] the third party portion of this will be reading a feed [22:32:49] but will be notified of updates via pub/sub [22:33:28] which means the job runners should support it [22:37:28] 03(FIXED) some deleted instances are still around - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37593 +comment (10Ryan Lane) [22:37:45] !e LastModified [22:37:45] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:LastModified [22:37:53] Evening all. Are there any Text to speech interface plugins for MW software? I'm thinking about accessibility in relation to adjudications and stuff from arbcom and the like. May not be open to audio recording, so thinking of other accessibility routes [22:38:16] Ryan_Lane: I was musing earlier on the fact that if I sent a user an email, then send some corrections, that they might arrive in reverse order in theory [22:38:37] AaronSchulz: in which sense? [22:38:53] oh. if you don't run the jobs in order [22:39:14] it's also natural for some jobs to fail [22:39:25] Ryan_Lane: right, same as if you pop them, hand them off, and don't wait for the response before popping the next one [22:39:37] for instance, if an email fails delivery, the job failed, but it shouldn't get added back in [22:40:01] but if the time to email or whatever is small and semi-constant, it's pretty unlikely in practice [22:40:09] hi all. i have to domains for my wiki. www.wikirio.com for english. www.wikirio.com.br. should i have two applications separated? the databases are already splitted [22:40:17] and keeping a topology graph to avoid it is ridiculous [22:40:28] as is waiting on the worker to finish [22:40:51] AaronSchulz: yes, we should run jobs in parallel, generally [22:41:09] which is how we run them now too [22:41:37] so even now the situation you describe is possible [22:41:42] in fact, it's even more possible [22:41:44] 03(mod) Addition of CU logs to list of user links in Special:Contributions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37573 +comment (10Will H) [22:41:47] because we don't always run the jobs in order [22:42:50] 03(mod) PageTriage should recognize the difference between a patrol action and an autopatrol action - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36837 (10bsitu) [22:44:29] Ryan_Lane: also, I'd like to see how async each of the options are. For example, if the daemon sends a worker a job, is it using TCP, is it blocking on the response that the worker got it? Or is it totally async, doing brief chunks of work in select()s? That kind of stuff. [22:44:53] * AaronSchulz wants an in-memory queue too [22:45:11] redis is in-memory [22:45:20] rabbitmq is too [22:45:26] I believe zeromq is as well [22:45:28] that's why I was looking at rabbit [22:45:34] zero is too, yes [22:45:36] we need to consider multi-datacenter, though [22:45:51] otherwise we'll lose all jobs when we switch datacenters [22:45:53] 03(NEW) Don't use and onmousehover for swapping images - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37610 normal; MediaWiki extensions: PageTriage; (krinklemail) [22:45:54] 14(WFM) Error in installation (mw-config) for a new wiki. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37607 +comment (10Jean Carlo) [22:46:17] Ryan_Lane: you mean a one time switch? or are we playing musical data centers? [22:46:28] musical data centers [22:46:32] in case of emergency [22:46:34] heh [22:46:46] (that's the entire idea ;) ) [22:47:38] a lot of this is why we were considering redis. heh [22:47:58] can handle sessions (and session replication), can act as a queue or a feed, has pub/sub support [22:48:25] rabbit can be disk-backed, though there are small windows of data loss potential if the daemon losses power [22:48:28] also, fully in memory is dangerous [22:48:30] hah [22:48:35] same with redis [22:48:53] but none of our jobs are mission critical [22:48:57] it's funny we were about to discuss the same thing :) [22:49:05] AaronSchulz: losing page invalidations would suck [22:49:10] rename user is the worst to fail on, and I'd like to see that gone by the end of this year [22:49:28] also, losing wikidata invalidations would also suck [22:49:29] Ryan_Lane: yeah, but not horribly, it may even go unnoticed [22:49:47] yeah wikidata loss sucks way more than squid purges [22:50:07] of course, each queue will have it's own reliability [22:50:09] yes. it would be nice to have something that at least has snapshot based disk-backing [22:50:15] rabbit and redis have that [22:50:16] I don't think squid purges need to be disk backed [22:50:38] but if it has little performance impact, then why not [22:51:07] it shouldn't have a major performance penalty [22:51:34] also, at least with redis, you can adjust the snapshot settings based on the number of jobs added into the queue [22:52:09] oh. right. lemme add you to the labs project [22:52:29] we didn't get much done in there [22:52:34] I remember looking at redis last month to see how useful it would be for caching [22:53:01] but I have mediawiki setup and we have php5-redis in the repo and installed [22:53:14] now that we have 96G ram boxes coming in, I don't quite care as much [22:53:32] still, redis handles lists better than memcached (using cas) [22:54:04] well, I think we'd likely continue using memcache for what we're using it for mostly :) [22:54:14] but who knows [22:54:27] but we don't have anything using that atm, though I think the InterfaceConcurrency thing was initially going to keep track of "users doing something to X" though... [22:54:38] * Ryan_Lane nods [22:54:50] redis would pwn there [22:54:52] yeah, we have a few things that could use a queue [22:55:00] err [22:55:02] not a queue [22:55:08] LPUSH [22:55:25] a key/value with better support than memcache [22:55:36] or actually, the unique set push thing [22:55:43] * Ryan_Lane nods [22:56:05] so, what got you looking at a real queue? :) [22:56:19] SADD [22:56:34] SADD? [22:56:43] http://redis.io/commands/sadd [22:56:55] ah. yeah [22:56:56] I have a feeling I will be dealing with the job queue in a few months or so [22:57:39] hm. I could see SADD being used for job deduplication [22:58:24] well if each email might be a big serialized blob, that might get slower than ideal [22:58:33] true [22:58:42] it may use hashes internally though [22:58:49] so maybe it doesn't matter [23:02:28] still, it would be O(N), vs O(logN)...depends how long the queue gets [23:02:44] generally if there are enough items to make sadd slow, you are probably already fucked [23:03:53] hah. yeah [23:06:11] (logN being some binary tree or something) [23:06:50] maybe for practical use, they didn't see any point bother with trees and rebalancing and all that [23:07:01] * Ryan_Lane nods [23:07:18] Ryan_Lane: but if we use redis, it may be tempting to consider it for other stuff...since it can be disk backed [23:07:19] our queue generally doesn't get massive in size [23:07:30] also, if we split the queues properly…. ;) [23:07:43] yeah, we could shard the squid purge queues [23:08:00] though it would diminish duplicate detection a bit [23:08:03] well, we could also have a separate queue for email [23:08:17] of course, the types would all have their own queues [23:08:20] and another for wikidata, etc [23:08:25] that's a given [23:08:28] of course [23:08:32] it's not the case in our current system [23:08:44] well, we try and fake it, but it all sucks [23:08:55] it is from the job runner side [23:08:57] right [23:10:01] AaronSchulz: we can probably end up with more than one thing, too :) [23:10:11] it would be good for us to evaluate a number of things [23:10:18] for cache or for queues? [23:10:44] well, I guess both [23:11:18] the nice thing about disk-backed cache (parser?) is that if there is a brief power failure the site doesn't go down as soon as it goes up [23:11:52] yes [23:12:08] redis is disk backed, but it's a recovery mechanism [23:12:22] if it doesn't fit in memory it's going to be inefficient [23:13:10] Is it smart in one it puts on disk? E.g. only the top X used items? [23:13:33] say if 80% hits are to 5% of items... [23:13:54] if we restart the cache boxes, we could get away with only a small snapshot [23:13:56] the snapshots put everything on disk [23:14:04] as far as I know [23:14:23] there's a way to expand onto disk if the box runs out of memory [23:14:27] a "Michael Jackson" cache would be nice [23:14:39] why lol [23:15:03] azi: that might be somewhat of an inside joke [23:15:30] Ryan_Lane: do you know any caches off hand that can be set to only back the hottest items? [23:15:45] that would sure kill some disk i/o [23:16:09] nope [23:16:24] I wasn't really looking at any of these from a caching perspective [23:16:38] heh, fair enough ;) [23:19:00] redis's virtual memory, based on what I'm reading in the config isn't super smart about it [23:19:39] AaronSchulz: i see [23:19:41] oh [23:19:42] wait [23:20:06] "In order to do so very used keys are taken in memory while the other keys are swapped into a swap file, similarly to what operating systems do with memory pages." [23:22:03] azi/AaronSchulz, when Michael Jackson died, everybody was viewing that page, which was very complex and getting many edits and all apaches were trying to process it [23:22:41] 03(mod) "$edits since $date" count coming up incorrectly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37270 (10bsitu) [23:23:22] 03(mod) Internet Explorer mobile browser displays error for Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33649 +comment (10Jon) [23:24:13] what was the result? [23:24:38] cluster problems [23:25:20] I don't remember know exactly, "problems accessing wikipedia" [23:25:39] 03(mod) the messages pagetriage-viewing and -unreviewed don't seem to be used - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36970 (10bsitu) [23:25:42] now we have the PoolCounter [23:26:09] that makes an apache not go to parse a page if it's not in cache but another apache is rendering it [23:27:46] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cache_stampede [23:30:06] anyone tried using dbpedia.org? How good is it at getting info from the wikipedia info boxes? [23:31:08] I'm trying to parse information about animals from the Taxobox info box and i'm wondering if I should use that or just parse it myself [23:34:49] 03(NEW) http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Terms_of_use?useformat=mobile shows no logo - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37611 normal; Wikimedia Mobile: Content; (liangent) [23:39:52] I need some help setting up mediawiki, it says there are no suitable drivers found: http://puu.sh/AYd6, this is the phpinfo() page: http://puu.sh/AYeN, and "php -m": http://puu.sh/AYfs I'm trying to use SQLite but it's not detecting any database drivers at all. Any idea what's wrong? [23:40:19] drl, did you try enabling sqlite3 extension? [23:40:30] Platonides: yup [23:40:48] if it shows up on php -m, that means it's enabled right? [23:41:05] yes [23:41:09] at least for the cli [23:41:23] you could try using the command line installer [23:41:40] where can I find that? [23:41:42] did you restart the server after enabling the modules? [23:42:37] no, is it possible to only restart php without restarting the entire server? [23:44:27] You need to restart apache [23:44:40] it depends on the way you're running apache [23:44:42] I'm using nginx instead of apache [23:44:52] it could be possible if it was using fastcgi [23:45:10] there's probably an option to perform a graceful restart [23:46:13] ok, just restarted nginx, it's still not detecting the database drivers [23:46:46] Platonides: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2700 [23:46:52] talk about duplicate bugs [23:47:32] I just noticed this, apc module is loaded but mediawiki says it could not find apc [23:49:47] drl, that's the usage of apc store [23:49:58] which I think defaults to disabled in php.ini [23:50:15] acceleration of php bytecodes is automatic [23:51:04] ah ok, so modules can be loaded but not enabled? [23:52:21] no [23:52:36] APC works by saving the php parser the work of parsing the file on each request [23:52:46] it saves a parsed copy on its memory [23:52:51] and reuses it [23:53:00] that's the big win of APC [23:53:03] and it's automatic [23:53:20] azi: http://dom.as/2009/06/26/embarrassment/ [23:53:26] additionally, the applications can use apc memory to store persistent values [23:53:41] that requires collaboration from the php code [23:53:49] and is what mediawiki is saying it doesn't detect [23:54:03] ok [23:55:17] is there anything else I can do about the database drivers issue? [23:56:06] no luck after nginx restart? [23:56:08] you could try to debug it yourself :S [23:57:08] you could try a single php file which runs: $f = new PDO("db.sqlite"); [23:57:15] and see if it works... [23:57:29] (then try to make it work)� [23:57:49] i can login fine at wikirio.com.br, but on wikirio.com i get: There seems to be a problem with your login session; this action has been canceled as a precaution against session hijacking. Please hit "back" and reload the page you came from, then try again. [23:58:09] they share the application with different databases... any ideas? [23:58:14] restarted nginx with no luck, I'll try debugging then [23:58:52] that line I gave you is what MW would be using [23:59:16] 03(mod) [[Special:Checkuser/foo]] should prefill the username or IP address field with "foo" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31793 (10Marcin Cieślak) [23:59:16] 03(WONTFIX) Special:CheckUser/Log redirects to Special:CheckUser, not the new Special:CheckUserLog - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34943 +comment (10Marcin Cieślak) [23:59:32] Edgard_WikiRio, reload the page? [23:59:37] works for me