[00:01:24] Krenair: I'm rather okay with you, it's why I didn't flagged it as -1 [00:02:07] I thought it were to format changelogs but apparently it's for mail comfort [00:02:08] "This will ensure Gerrit will correctly display it and make the message suitable for display in any mail clients. Some people receiving emails notification might be using a text client such as mutt." [00:02:12] 03siebrand * 10/trunk/translatewiki/StatusNet/genStatusNet-plugins.php: Update path. [00:03:03] Dereckson, I changed the commit message because those are used in changelogs [00:04:31] 03(mod) Supporting directionality for references - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/13673 +comment (10Dereckson) [00:04:39] 03siebrand * 10/trunk/translatewiki/StatusNet/StatusNet-plugins.yaml: Update supported plugins for StatusNet. [00:05:11] hmmmm ... https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/11800/1/RELEASE-NOTES-1.20 [00:05:24] we should document more this file need to be edited for core changes [00:06:37] New review: Dereckson; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11800 [00:07:58] Dereckson: only the release manager edits that file these days iirc [00:08:09] because it was screwing up too much due to how git works or something [00:08:54] 03(mod) export should include page protection status - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34278 (10jdk370) [00:13:35] p858snake|l: yep, git merge algo isn't good to add lines [00:13:55] at Berlin hackathon we rebased a lot [00:18:14] Dereckson: any idea? [00:30:00] Krenair: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgAllowDisplayTitle [00:30:08] sorry, it's for you Juandev the link [00:30:38] Dereckson: I red that, but there is no answer [00:31:05] the answer is you have to edit your LocalSettings.php file to add $wgAllowDisplayTitle = true; [00:31:08] Dereckson: I have that already in localsetting.php [00:31:25] and $wgRestrictDisplayTitle = false; too ? [00:31:28] huh, I have false - than I misunderstood it [00:32:07] ah, like this [00:32:22] $wgAllowDisplayTitle is to allow title to use this magic word to displayer another page title (so it's to set to true if you wish to enable the feature) [00:32:58] If $wgRestrictDisplayTitle is set to true, it will only accept case changes ; if it's to false, you can be wild. So in your case, false. [00:34:23] oh, I see [00:35:05] that was my inadvertance Dereckson [00:35:35] New patchset: Reedy; "Bump release notes to say jQuery UI 1.8.21 (seems I forgot to do this in the commits...)" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11827 [00:36:20] 03(ASSIGNED) Article Feedback - My Contributions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36773 +comment (10Dereckson) [00:37:07] 03(mod) Send notification to account owner on multiple unsuccessful login attempts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/9838 +comment (10Dereckson) [00:37:09] New patchset: Reedy; "Kill RELEASE-NOTES-1.19 from core. Not needed anymore" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11828 [00:37:40] New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11827 [00:39:41] New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11828 [00:46:04] New review: Dereckson; "+ I18n: The en/qqq l10n messages looks good for me." [mediawiki/extensions/TranslationNotifications] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11267 [00:47:29] 03(ASSIGNED) Changing $wgUploadNavigationUrl for da.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37662 +comment (10Dereckson) [00:55:54] 03(ASSIGNED) Modernize watchlist editor (EditWatchlist) for AJAXy interactivity - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32151 +comment (10Dereckson) [00:56:33] blobaugh: hi [00:56:45] 03(ASSIGNED) Special:Watchlist/edit is unpaginated, crashes browsers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/20483 +comment (10Dereckson) [00:56:59] Good night. [00:57:04] night Dereckson [00:57:06] oh, one thing [00:57:15] Dereckson: about your changesets [00:57:38] Dereckson: I saw that *two* of them have had a bunch of reviewers added... I'm fairly sure the more recent one I didn't do [00:57:51] that is, I'm not the one who added a lot of reviewers. Do you know who did? [00:58:11] sumanah: I checked again the mail yesterday. I wonder if it wouldn't be SieBrand who added them. [00:58:38] Dereckson: (I believe his first name is Siebrand and it's not a compound word, just so you know.) [00:58:45] (as the review mail gerrit sent for his review is the first to include a lot of cc) [00:58:48] Dereckson: oh and here's Aaron! hi Dereckson [00:59:02] oh no b, okay [00:59:10] er... no capital 'B' [00:59:36] Dereckson, I swear you appeared out of nowhere and started writing code to fix bugs like mad [01:00:26] Dereckson: Hmmm, did you get any email from Gerrit explaining who added all the reviewers for https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/11067/ ? [01:01:06] Krenair: Did you see http://blog.robinpepermans.be/2012/06/berlin-hackathon.html ? Dereckson makes a cameo! [01:02:28] cameo? [01:02:42] in a movie, it's an apparition of a personnality or the producer [01:02:50] Dereckson: by the way, will you remind me how you heard about the Berlin hackathon? I am trying to remember whether I specifically put a note on your talk page; my URL history says no. I'm glad you came! Maybe you heard from a friend? [01:03:05] "a cameo appearance" I should say. [01:03:40] blackjack48: so here's Dereckson, the one who might collaborate with you on a bunch of watchlist stuff if you arrange it :D [01:04:05] sumanah: you invited esby, who then asked me if I went to Berlin [01:04:13] hi Dereckson! [01:04:22] I'm Aaron [01:04:39] Dereckson: Aaron is doing https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Blackjack48/GSOC_proposal_for_watchlist_improvements [01:06:52] I'll add you to the changes I've posted on gerrit, though I have new ones coming in the next day or so. [01:07:54] Nice to meet you blackjack48 :) [01:07:54] blackjack48: when you have a prototype or mockups or something, it might be worth pinging jorm so his design team can review [01:08:11] I'm Sébastien. [01:08:15] Dereckson: ohhhhhhhh [01:09:31] Dereckson: ok, so we did meet. I was forgetting the nickname-walletname link and thinking "how did I not meet this person?!" Glad we met. How is your leg? [01:10:08] It's nice. The doctor said the dog only pinched it. [01:10:13] Oh good! [01:11:29] But, I met a dog freed in the woods yesterday and weren't as cool as before. I hope I'm not starting to develop a dog fear :/ [01:12:02] (I mean I met yesterday a dog unleashed, and before I would have smiled ; there I were a little cautious) [01:12:30] I am kind of afraid of dogs, so of course I think your new anxiety is reasonable. But maybe I'm not a good comparison. :-) [01:13:41] Dereckson: I am a little bit like Krenair in that I am curious -- were you already hacking MediaWiki on your own, and now you're starting to contribute stuff into trunk? Or are you just starting your MediaWiki odyssey now? [01:16:25] I guess the more urgent question is whether you got any email from Gerrit explaining who added all the reviewers for https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/11067/ , because if this keeps happening then people will start disregarding review requests completely and utterly. And I really hope it wasn't me who did this accidentally..... [01:16:56] I know it's very late for you in Europe so I don't want to keep you up when you were heading off :) [01:17:05] Hmmm.... my previous MediaWiki experience were only to create a custom extension to link MediaWiki with a custom PHP application, who managed the sign on, offering a unified login. [01:18:08] Well, that's still something :) and far more than many programmers have done! [01:22:54] sumanah and siebrand > I forwaded you the mass reviewers add mail [01:23:10] Got it! thank you. [01:23:56] It sounds like the group members of a group that controls .... Ops-y things? [01:24:27] Dereckson: I must admit, I am relieved that it's not Sleepwalking Sumana randomly adding reviewers in Gerrit! [01:24:47] So who was it? [01:26:45] Krenair: I don't want to ping all of them, so will pm [01:27:45] also added: Gerrit-Reviewer: novaadmin [01:28:00] wait, maybe that "person" wasn't added in that batch [01:28:32] * sumanah throws up her hands, will investigate if Siebrand says "what?! it wasn't me either! I was framed! It's a setup!" [01:29:20] * sumanah watched 2 conspiracy/noir movies this weekend [01:49:08] New review: SPQRobin; "Also, the global $wgContLang should no longer be added." [mediawiki/extensions/Cite] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7738 [01:58:59] TimStarling: got a moment to chat? [01:59:14] yes [01:59:51] TimStarling: 1) will you be at Wikimania? and if so, will you be there for the pre-conference hackathon starting 10 July? if so then I'll add your name to the attendees for https://wikimania2012.wikimedia.org/wiki/Hackathon [02:00:11] no I won't [02:00:36] OK. Glad you won't be away from your family that much this summer. [02:01:20] 2) https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/status:open+project:mediawiki/extensions/Scribunto,n,z - anyone other than you I should assign Ross's changes to, to get them reviewed? [02:01:34] and DJ's for that matter. [02:02:48] 03(NEW) Modify Collection format variables from PDF to ODT for Malayalam Wikprojects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37672 normal; Wikimedia: Site configuration; (me.praveen) [02:03:34] TimStarling: and 3) https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Gerrit_project_ownership#Merge_Rights_for_Daniel_Kinzler I am basically waiting for your opinion before granting or denying stuff. [02:03:38] does he definitely want those merged now? [02:04:31] at berlin he seemed unsure whether WikiText.lua was actually ready for distribution, he said he was submitting change request as an exercise [02:05:04] TimStarling: ah I see. OK, I'll comment on https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/9882/ to ask about that. [02:05:15] anyway, to the extent that there are things to review in Scribunto, I will review them [02:05:20] TimStarling: do you have any similar questions re "Reading parameters inside wikitext"? [02:05:32] but the priority will be fairly low for the moment [02:05:38] I have a lot of other things to review [02:05:43] New review: Sumanah; "Tim asked in IRC:" [mediawiki/extensions/Scribunto] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9882 [02:06:15] yes, Daniel should have merge rights, not sure why he doesn't already [02:07:14] TimStarling: for both MediaWiki core and for Wikidata? Roan argues against him having core merge privileges [02:07:53] I'll reply to Roan [02:08:02] ok, thanks Tim. [02:08:11] I think that's about it. Happy hacking [02:15:09] New review: Ross Andrews; "You can merge it or not; I don't really have strong feelings about it if you don't want it. I think ..." [mediawiki/extensions/Scribunto] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9882 [02:15:42] rbandrews: hey, I think TimStarling's question is more, is it ready or not? [02:16:01] it's less about your personal preference and more about whether, in your opinion as an engineer, it'd be useful. [02:16:12] not to put words in Tim's mouth. [02:21:24] sumanah: It's stable, it won't break anything to put it in. The thing for me is, I thought this was the kind of thing he wanted me to write, so I wrote it, but now I'm not sure. [02:21:50] TimStarling: ^ work it out? :-) [02:24:05] I'm not sure if you're modest or unenthusiastic [02:24:17] how about I just review it [02:24:46] TimStarling: I think it's "hesitant, modest, and first-time open source contributor who doesn't want to overstep" [02:25:44] TimStarling: Yeah, pretty much that. I'm happy to work on whatever part you want me to, but I'm not sure what that is. I thought it was something like that patch; if it's not you can toss it and let me know what else I should work on. [02:27:25] we probably need something like your patch, yes [02:28:14] my top lua priority at the moment is documentation [02:28:33] we need help/tutorial pages, especially describing the MediaWiki interface [02:29:10] a copy of the relevant parts of the Lua reference manual may also be useful [02:29:30] rbandrews: sounds like you're getting the "here's what needs doing" TODO :-) [02:29:39] so if you were asking me for a project to work on, that's what I'd say [02:30:07] rbandrews: ever hear the Wikipedia expression "Be Bold"? :) [02:30:15] TimStarling: I can do that. Just add them to mediawiki.org? [02:30:20] * sumanah says yes [02:30:23] yes [02:31:15] once that's done, we can promote scribunto.wmflabs.org more heavily [02:31:40] then at some point after that, we will install the extension on mediawiki.org [02:31:53] New review: SPQRobin; "Shouldn't we then also use Linker::linkKnown() in SpecialAllpages? It uses similar code except that ..." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/10854 [02:32:11] All right. I'll write some pages next week. Thanks! [02:32:14] rbandrews: and for future Tim interpretation reference ;-) , his silence does not mean "I never wanted you to do that." If he thinks you were wrong, he will tell you straight out, most likely :) [02:32:28] question [02:32:41] rbandrews: his silence means "oh not another security vulnerability to deal with" or "time to feed the infant!" or the like :) [02:32:44] if bot uploads are hidden from the upload log, how can I get a list of all the recent uploads including bot uploads? [02:32:52] 03(mod) Modify Collection format variables from PDF to ODT for Malayalam Wikprojects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37672 +shellpolicy; +comment (10Dereckson) [02:32:54] lol, noted. :) [02:32:59] 03(FIXED) class="mw-redirect" for Special:PrefixIndex - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37452 +comment (10Robin Pepermans (SPQRobin)) [02:34:18] rbandrews: so, just push on, use your best judgment, etc., send update notes to wikitext-l as you finish chunks, and Tim or someone else will pipe up if they think you're on the wrong track! but otherwise, try (although this is hard for a first-time contributor) to assume that you are right and worthy and welcome [02:34:42] sumanah: I can do that. Thanks! [02:34:52] You're welcome, and thank you for your skill and time. [02:35:06] This time, I'm going to sleep for good. Good night/evening everybody. / blackjack48> I will be glad to look in your changes in few hours. [02:35:10] night! [02:35:19] did anyone catch my question? [02:35:57] Magog_the_Ogre: I'm investigating on mediawiki.org ..... [02:36:02] have you already searched there? [02:36:27] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Logevents has nothing [02:36:45] I'm trying to get a list of uploads in a certain time range, which is easy... except it's excluding bot uploads [02:36:50] Magog_the_Ogre: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:ListFiles .... ? [02:37:48] Magog_the_Ogre: does Special:ListFiles exclude files uploaded by bots? [02:38:39] can the API do special pages? [02:39:35] ah maybe this is it: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Allimages [02:39:56] no wait; that doesn't list by date [02:42:51] I might have to run it on the toolserver and do an SQL command [02:43:15] Magog_the_Ogre: you might want to email the mediawiki-api list or try the sandbox [02:43:16] !api [02:43:17] The MediaWiki API provides direct, high-level access to the data contained in the MediaWiki databases. Client programs should be able to use the API to login, get data, and post changes. Find out more at . For client libraries in various languages, see . [02:43:19] !lists [02:43:19] mediawiki-l and wikitech-l are the primary mailing lists for MediaWiki-related issues. See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mailing_lists for details. [02:44:37] so I just email wikitech-l@wikimedia.org? [02:52:22] email has been sent [02:52:24] Magog_the_Ogre: you'd need to join the list first, and then email it. [02:52:30] doh [02:52:40] Magog_the_Ogre: and I recommend the mediawiki-api list [02:52:50] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-api [02:53:14] heck with that I'll ask at village pump technical on en.wp [02:53:52] last thing I need is another list subscription [02:54:33] * sumanah stops giving advice [02:54:57] lol [02:55:10] btw Magog_the_Ogre you might be interested in Wikimedia Labs if you don't already know about it [02:55:10] you probably shouldn't be deterred by my laziness [02:55:11] !labs [02:55:11] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/WMF_Projects/Wikimedia_Labs [02:55:32] oh, Magog_the_Ogre, I'm just not giving any more advice about your API question *to you* [02:55:49] I'll certainly give more advice to people who ask for it :-) [03:10:58] New patchset: Krinkle; "mediawiki.special.preferences: Support for Back/Forward navigation" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4950 [03:11:24] New review: Krinkle; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4950 [03:13:02] New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4950 [03:17:30] New review: Ross Andrews; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Scribunto] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11717 [03:19:26] New patchset: SPQRobin; "Add a list of all ISO 639 languages to MediaWiki" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11829 [03:21:32] New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11829 [03:41:26] New patchset: Subramanya Sastry; "Couple minor bug fixes in serializer" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11831 [03:41:45] 03(mod) Multiline headers don't show in TOC - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/9760 +comment (10au) [04:02:07] Dereckson, I got your note on meta. [04:03:50] 03(NEW) First item not expanding on Firefox 13.0, mobile and desktop - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37673 normal; Wikimedia Mobile: Generic; (web) [04:07:05] 03(NEW) Logo change (nawiki) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37674 normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (zscout370) [04:15:18] 03(mod) Logo change (nawiki) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37674 +comment (10Hydra) [04:19:04] 03(mod) Logo change (nawiki) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37674 +comment (10Zachary Harden) [04:21:54] 03(mod) Logo change (nawiki) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37674 +comment (10Hydra) [04:22:43] New patchset: Santhosh; "* Tamil Inscript fixes + tests" [mediawiki/extensions/Narayam] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11671 [04:23:27] New review: Santhosh; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Narayam] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11671 [04:23:29] Change merged: Santhosh; [mediawiki/extensions/Narayam] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11671 [04:25:58] 03(mod) Logo change (nawiki) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37674 +comment (10Zachary Harden) [04:27:19] 03(mod) Logo change (nawiki) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37674 +shellpolicy (10Hydra) [04:29:47] 03(mod) Logo change (nawiki) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37674 +comment (10Zachary Harden) [04:34:02] any German speakers here? [04:34:14] I'm curious about what http://blog.wikimedia.de/2012/06/11/rueckblick-berlin-hackathon-2012/ says about me, and translate.google isn't quite good enough :-) [04:34:39] * Krinkle carefully raises hand [04:35:41] Hi Krinkle :-) if you have a moment to look, I'd appreciate it, but it's pure narcissism [04:35:47] * sumanah is about to go to sleep [04:36:22] sumanah: It mentions you three times. Freely re-interpreted in English: [04:36:54] 1) Building up to the event 100s of emails have been exchanged, many of such were with wmf staff such as Sumana [04:38:05] 2) Sumana is really into the community, she knows everybody by name. You could wake her up in the middle of the night, give her the name of a volunteer and she'd know what he's working on. [04:38:11] (great compliment!) [04:38:27] It is! Very kind of Nicole to say that [04:39:40] sumanah: you spake at me? [04:40:03] blobaugh: just wondering how you're doing [04:40:22] 3) (in the last paragraph below the photo). The atmosphere motivated people to ask questions. After a session was over, people often asked questions. much left to do. But fortunately there will be another even in July, at which Sumana will be as well. [04:40:33] blobaugh: as you can see in https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/status:open+project:^mediawiki.*,n,z several folks are contributing little bits to the API [04:40:54] sumanah: doing well. no longer at Microsoft. my contract there ended and they were unable to renew it so i had to pass off all my fun OSS projects :( [04:41:14] Krinkle: aha! Thanks so much. It seems like Nicole also attributes to me a quote like: �Daniel, das ist Oren. Oren, das ist Daniel. Ich lass euch mal allein.� [04:41:16] sumanah: that is great to see [04:41:32] "Daniel, this is Oren. Oren, this is Daniel." And then...? "You should talk to each other"? [04:41:46] blobaugh: my sympathies on the nonrenewal. [04:42:08] sumanah: "Ich lass euch mal allein" means like "I'll leave you two to it." [04:42:19] blobaugh: might you possibly be at the pre-Wikimania hackathon July 10-11 in Washington, DC? [04:42:35] sumanah: it happens. i joined FreshMuse in Seattle as head of development. it is a WordPress shop. pretty fun so far. it's great to get paid to work in a community i have had on the side for years [04:42:40] sumanah: doubt it, sorry [04:42:44] is both used in a collaborative sense as well as a romantic sense (e.g. were you feel akward and leave the lovers alone). :D I take it this is about the former case ;-) [04:42:49] oh wow, congrats on the new job! [04:43:02] Krinkle: ha! Yes, I think so. [04:43:25] sumanah: I'm subscribing to that blob and reading the rest of the post now. [04:43:28] blog* [04:43:45] Krinkle: cool. [04:44:09] blobaugh: I bet you are doing a bunch of interesting WP stuff. Hope you swing by MW every so often [04:44:31] it seems WMDE did their own Vector-inspired wordpress theme. It is different than ours. [04:44:31] Krinkle: https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Git/Gerrit_project_ownership&curid=83703&diff=550818&oldid=550520 in case you want to comment [04:44:38] ok, sleeptime [04:44:45] doctor who time, for me [04:44:47] bye! [04:44:49] bye! [04:45:18] sumanah: i would love to. unfortunately since i am not using it in projects right now my focus has moved away from MW, but i would love it if i found a way to marry MW and WP on my projects [04:45:54] blobaugh: sure, understandable. Maybe we'll see you at some Drupal/CiviCRM/MediaWiki/WordPress/Joomla!/phpMyAdmin/etc. summit someday :) [04:45:58] night [04:52:28] I'm siiiinging in the rain. [04:57:55] New patchset: Santhosh; "Correct the filtering of the notifications and avoid duplicates per page." [mediawiki/extensions/TranslationNotifications] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/5155 [05:16:47] !help [05:16:47] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:$1 [05:16:59] anyone? [05:17:33] hello? [05:17:53] yes? [05:18:07] i have a few problems [05:19:56] how do you rename the bureaucrat group? [05:22:35] anyone? [05:26:40] !help [05:26:40] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:$1 [05:27:09] !question [05:27:09] There is no such key, you probably want to try: !ask, !botnoob, !imabot, !itsalwaysbugzilla, !lazy, !tooquiet, !welcome, [05:27:16] !tooquiet [05:27:16] Yes, #mediawiki has a lot of people idling. If they were all talking, there'd be no on-topic discussions at all. The channel can be social but is in no way required to be. If you take offense at the silence, you may wish to find a more social channel. If you need help, just ask, and please don't ask for help or for attention before actually asking your question, that's just a waste of time, see !ask [05:27:24] !imabot [05:27:24] I'm an irc bot, I just act on commands given by users in the channel, you're best off directing your questions to the humans in the channel. [05:27:35] !lazy [05:27:35] Don't rely on the bot answers too much, I am not always the best answer to every question. And don't immediately reach for the bot to answer a question, without at least checking the recent channel history to see if someone already botted them. Also, if someone says "can anyone help me", check that they haven't already stated the question and been told not to repeat themselves (reducing them to ask "can anyone help me?"). [05:27:53] !ask [05:27:53] Hi, how can we help you? Just ask your question. [05:28:00] How do you find a user id? [05:28:11] ! ask how do you find a user id [05:28:11] ok, you just typed an exclamation mark with no meaning in the channel, good job. If you want to see a list of all keys, check !botbrain [05:28:19] !botbrain [05:28:20] Hello, I'm wm-bot. The database for this channel is published at http://bots.wmflabs.org/~petrb/db/%23mediawiki.htm More about WM-Bot: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/wm-bot [06:08:14] 03(mod) Display the label of an item in the Recent Changes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37634 +comment (10Nikola Smolenski) [06:11:38] 03(NEW) Portals reviewing in ruwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37675 normal; Wikimedia: Site configuration; (maxbiohazard) [06:12:01] 03(mod) Display the label of an item in the Recent Changes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37634 (10Nikola Smolenski) [06:12:12] 03(mod) Display labels in special pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37312 (10Nikola Smolenski) [06:26:33] New review: Nikerabbit; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/TranslationNotifications] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11267 [06:31:34] New review: Amire80; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/TranslationNotifications] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11267 [06:34:26] 03(NEW) Please create namespaces in kannada wiki sources (kn:wikisource) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37676 normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (omshivaprakash) [06:35:55] 03(mod) Please create namespaces in kannada wiki sources (kn:wikisource) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37676 +comment (10Omshivaprakash H L) [06:37:44] New review: Nikerabbit; "Personally I do not see the need to start customizing every message which contains the word message ..." [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (translatesvg); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9780 [06:38:59] 03(mod) Please create namespaces in kannada wiki sources (kn:wikisource) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37676 +shell (10Raimond Spekking) [06:40:15] Who/what can i approach to add a user to my extension? [06:40:43] /user/developer/s [06:45:06] New review: Nikerabbit; "I doubt that anyone else expect Commons is really using UploadWizard, since UW is basically hardcode..." [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9528 [06:46:25] New patchset: Lupo; "(bug 12701) Use diff of all unseen revisions in the "new messages" bar." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/10545 [06:48:59] New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/10545 [06:52:52] New review: Nikerabbit; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/WikiEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9605 [07:02:31] 03(mod) Modify Collection format variables from PDF to ODT for Malayalam Wikprojects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37672 +comment (10praveenp) [07:08:13] New review: Dereckson; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/TranslationNotifications] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11267 [07:10:03] 03(mod) Please create namespaces in kannada wiki sources (kn:wikisource) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37676 +comment (10Hydra) [07:13:36] New patchset: Henning Snater; "added aliases functionality;" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11611 [07:16:08] New review: Siebrand; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/TranslationNotifications] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11154 [07:16:10] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/TranslationNotifications] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11154 [07:18:29] New review: Siebrand; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/TranslationNotifications] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11267 [07:18:31] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/TranslationNotifications] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11267 [07:23:23] 03(mod) Modify Collection format variables from PDF to ODT for Malayalam Wikprojects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37672 +comment (10Dereckson) [07:30:44] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "added aliases functionality;" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11611 [07:37:33] 03(mod) Grammar problems with UI messages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37670 +comment (10Dereckson) [07:41:04] "per request in bug updating link to commons" [07:41:20] Is acceptable for you to use "commons" and not "Commons" or "commons."? [07:42:23] New review: Nikerabbit; "With some improvement this patch can be merged. It can also be extended by making it possible to pro..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7986 [07:43:03] Dereckson: Wikimedia Commons would be clear [07:44:38] New review: Siebrand; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7986 [07:49:30] 03(mod) Please create namespaces in kannada wiki source (kn:wikisource) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37676 summary (10Shiju Alex) [07:49:54] hi [07:50:08] 03(mod) MessageIndexRebuild still failing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37647 (10Siebrand) [07:50:08] New review: Hashar; "Well "semi-infinite loops" sounds scary to me. We probably don't want to have all apaches suddenly l..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8783 [07:50:35] New review: Nikerabbit; "I don't like storing the data in an executable format. We should probably ship the original files an..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11829 [08:10:55] 03(ASSIGNED) Modify Collection format variables from PDF to ODT for Malayalam Wikprojects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37672 +comment (10Dereckson) [08:16:42] New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Failed " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: -1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9504 [08:19:59] New review: Tobias Gritschacher; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11611 [08:20:27] 03(ASSIGNED) Portals reviewing in ruwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37675 +comment (10Dereckson) [08:20:30] 03(FIXED) Modify Collection format variables from PDF to ODT for Malayalam Wikprojects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37672 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [08:23:38] New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9504 [09:00:24] New patchset: Nikerabbit; "Fix for issues in Special:PageTranslation caused by replication lag" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11835 [09:00:49] 03(mod) MessageIndexRebuild still failing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37647 +comment (10Niklas Laxström) [09:05:06] New patchset: Santhosh; "CLDR Plural rules based plural form calculation" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11836 [09:07:08] New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11836 [09:07:13] 03(mod) Display the label of an item in the Recent Changes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37634 +comment (10Daniel Kinzler) [09:08:11] 03(mod) Display the label of an item in the Recent Changes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37634 +comment (10Daniel Kinzler) [09:19:51] New review: Siebrand; "A few typos in commit message." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9504 [09:21:45] 03(ASSIGNED) Restrict media upload to autopatrolled users on sv.wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36895 +comment (10Hydra) [09:26:15] 03(mod) MessageIndexRebuild failing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37647 summary (10Siebrand) [09:29:07] 03(mod) Unable to set workflow states - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37648 +comment (10Siebrand) [09:30:08] 03(NEW) ApiModifyItem uses mb_strcut and there is no fallback defined - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37677 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; (jeblad) [09:30:36] New review: Tobias Gritschacher; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11611 [09:31:12] 03(mod) ApiModifyItem uses mb_strcut and there is no fallback defined - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37677 +comment (10Siebrand) [09:33:30] 03(mod) Change FlaggedRevs configuration on Russian Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/15478 (10Dereckson) [09:35:57] 03(mod) Portals reviewing in ruwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37675 +comment (10Dereckson) [09:37:13] 03(mod) dump more tables from FlaggedRevs on WMF wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35975 +comment (10Hydra) [09:41:23] 03(ASSIGNED) Please create namespaces in kannada wiki source (kn:wikisource) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37676 normal->trivial; -shell +shellpolicy; +comment (10Dereckson) [09:43:30] is there a way to format titles of pages with math also? [09:43:50] so the page could have a title of $e^{2\pi}$ and it would get parsed as intented [09:44:23] intended* [09:50:04] 03(ASSIGNED) Add an alias to Help namespace in ml.wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35712 +shell; +comment (10Hydra) [09:55:21] 03(NEW) Making widget-container configurable for different Instances - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37678 enhancement; MediaWiki extensions: Widgets; (andreas.abele) [09:57:33] 14(DUP) shell scripts have two versions on fenari - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36410 +comment (10Hydra) [09:57:33] 03(mod) fenari cleanup: /home/wikipedia/bin and /usr/local/bin - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34136 +comment (10Hydra) [09:58:54] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "Autocomments for Wikibase items" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11842 [10:01:06] 03(mod) Portals reviewing in ruwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37675 +comment (10MaxBioHazard) [10:10:40] 03(ASSIGNED) Add French and Italian Wikibooks as an import source at Vietnamese Wikibooks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37457 +comment (10Hydra) [10:10:59] Hi guys [10:11:15] Is there someone who knows how to configure MW and Nginx..? :) [10:12:29] 03(mod) Enable Transwiki import on Gujarati Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37511 +comment (10Hydra) [10:12:30] 03(mod) Babel configuration for tl.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37507 +shellpolicy; +comment (10Hydra) [10:14:56] 14(INVALID) Direct wikisource: link in bewiki and be_x_oldwiki to bewikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35557 +comment (10Hydra) [10:16:06] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "Autocomments for Wikibase items" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11842 [10:18:33] multiformeingegn: you could check out labs. people there do that using puppet. they have puppet classes installing nginx. everything is public in git. f.e. protoproxy.pp [10:24:36] New review: John Erling Blad; "Note that without the patchset https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/11599/3 only the pre-parsed form o..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11842 [10:30:38] 03(mod) Interproject links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/708 +comment (10Waldir) [10:41:57] New review: Jens Ohlig; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11611 [10:47:14] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "Autocomments for Wikibase items" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11842 [10:49:30] New review: Nikerabbit; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11836 [10:49:31] New review: Werdna; "I don't really care about the commit message length, but is this something we want? It seems like it..." [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11826 [10:51:10] 03(mod) lang="" attribute should be set to the content language code - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37564 +comment (10Fomafix) [10:51:50] 03(mod) Please create namespaces in kannada wiki source (kn:wikisource) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37676 +comment (10Dereckson) [10:52:11] New review: Werdna; "Needs $wgAvailableRights[] = 'abusefilter-view-private'; in AbuseFilter.php." [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11744 [10:56:45] 03(mod) Portals reviewing in ruwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37675 +comment (10Dereckson) [10:57:12] New patchset: Liangent; "Add new user right: abusefilter-log-private" [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11744 [11:04:21] New review: Werdna; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11744 [11:04:24] Change merged: Werdna; [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11744 [11:09:38] 03(mod) Interproject links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/708 +comment (10au) [11:10:25] 03(mod) Set $wgGroupPermissions['rollbacker']['abusefilter-log-private'] = true; on zhwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37679 summary; +comment (10Liangent) [11:10:53] New review: Siebrand; "BC didn't work so well. Caused bug 37648. https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/11833/ addresses this f..." [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/10551 [11:14:09] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Remove not needed and broken code" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMaps] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11844 [11:14:57] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMaps] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11844 [11:14:59] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMaps] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11844 [11:18:08] New patchset: Siebrand; "Fix incorrect link (Courses -> Institutions). Minor message tweaks." [mediawiki/extensions/EducationProgram] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11845 [11:19:03] New review: Siebrand; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/EducationProgram] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11845 [11:19:05] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/EducationProgram] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11845 [11:19:10] 03(mod) Maintenance/update.php fails due to error caused by Semantic Mediawiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33400 +comment (10Jacqui) [11:19:28] 03(mod) lang="" attribute shouldn't be set to an invalid language code - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37564 summary (10Liangent) [11:20:11] 03(mod) ApiModifyItem uses mb_strcut and there is no fallback defined - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37677 (10jeblad) [11:21:33] New patchset: Netbrain; "improved gui on searchmarkers" [mediawiki/extensions/Maps] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11846 [11:22:50] 03siebrand * 10/trunk/translatewiki/Wikia/extensions.txt: Update tags. [11:23:06] New patchset: Netbrain; "improved gui on searchmarkers" [mediawiki/extensions/Maps] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11846 [11:25:25] New patchset: Netbrain; "improved gui on searchmarkers" [mediawiki/extensions/Maps] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11846 [11:26:20] New review: Netbrain; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Maps] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11846 [11:50:53] 03(mod) Article Feedback - Increase Test Sample to 10% of English Wikipedia (using article ID code) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37616 +comment (10Matthias Mullie) [11:53:12] 03(mod) to support for microdata and rdfa, allow tags so external links can have ref/rel attributes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33886 (10mybugs.mail) [11:53:25] 03(NEW) ItemDiff does not work for label and description - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37680 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; (daniel.kinzler) [11:54:57] 03(mod) Please create namespaces in kannada wiki source (kn:wikisource) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37676 +comment (10Dereckson) [11:55:18] 03(NEW) Can't show old revisions of Wikibase Items - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37681 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; (daniel.kinzler) [11:57:48] 03(ASSIGNED) Set $wgGroupPermissions['rollbacker']['abusefilter-log-private'] = true; on zhwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37679 +shell; +comment (10Dereckson) [11:59:19] 03(NEW) ItemViewAction should use Article::view - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37682 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; (daniel.kinzler) [11:59:28] 03(mod) Set $wgGroupPermissions['rollbacker']['abusefilter-log-private'] = true; on zhwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37679 +comment (10Dereckson) [12:00:38] New patchset: Amire80; "(bug 37648) WorkflowStates backwards compatibility" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11847 [12:01:40] 03(ASSIGNED) Unable to set workflow states - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37648 +comment (10Dereckson) [12:06:27] 04(REOPENED) Direct wikisource: link in bewiki and be_x_oldwiki to bewikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35557 +comment (10Paul Selitskas) [12:08:53] 03(NEW) Implement revert/undo for Wikibase Items - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37683 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; (daniel.kinzler) [12:09:39] 03(mod) Unable to set workflow states - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37648 +comment (10Amir E. Aharoni) [12:10:12] 03(mod) Setup Rollback and Patroller, two user groups at zh.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/16988 (10Dereckson) [12:11:04] 03(mod) Article Feedback - Increase Test Sample to 10% of English Wikipedia (using article ID code) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37616 +comment (10Matthias Mullie) [12:13:35] 03(NEW) don't assume all changes are atomic - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37684 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; (daniel.kinzler) [12:13:36] 03(mod) Set $wgGroupPermissions['rollbacker']['abusefilter-log-private'] = true; on zhwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37679 +comment (10Dereckson) [12:19:40] 03(NEW) detect edit conflicts on data items - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37685 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; (daniel.kinzler) [12:20:06] New patchset: Henning Snater; "added aliases functionality;" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11611 [12:22:23] 03(mod) History of a page was lost after several move actions on zhwp - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37591 major->04CRIT; +comment (10Peter Bena) [12:26:08] New review: Hashar; "I thought it was some maintenance script that needed to have slave catchup. Since that is a web / in..." [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11835 [12:28:29] 03(mod) History of a page was lost after several move actions on zhwp - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37591 +comment (10Dereckson) [12:30:46] New patchset: Henning Snater; "added aliases functionality;" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11611 [12:31:05] 03(mod) fenari cleanup: /home/wikipedia/bin and /usr/local/bin - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34136 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [12:31:30] grmbl should be #!/usr/bin/env bash and not #!/bin/bash [12:31:38] linuxisms... [12:35:04] Problem is everybody in the linux community using /bin/bash, other OSes sysadmin have decided to systematically create a /bin/bash symbolic link to /usr/local/bin/bash so it's not really useful to fix [12:35:22] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "added aliases functionality;" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11611 [12:36:46] 03(mod) Documentation for gerrit on labs is almost that ugly as gerrit itself - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35403 +comment (10Hydra) [12:36:48] 03(mod) Documentation is out of date, incomplete (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/1 (10Hydra) [12:39:15] 03(mod) Documentation for gerrit on labs is almost that ugly as gerrit itself - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35403 +comment (10Dereckson) [12:39:39] 03(mod) deployment-prep root tracking bug (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37079 +tracking; summary; +comment (10Hydra) [12:39:46] 03(mod) Tracking bug (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/2007 (10Hydra) [12:40:12] 03(mod) Documentation for gerrit on labs is almost that ugly as gerrit itself - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35403 +comment (10Dereckson) [12:41:38] New review: Tobias Gritschacher; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11611 [12:41:56] New review: Tobias Gritschacher; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11611 [12:43:58] 03(mod) bugzilla Apache rewrite rule omit URL fragment - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36411 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [12:45:06] New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Add MySQL user-defined function for MurmurHash3" [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11850 [12:47:01] New patchset: MathiasLidal; "Initial version of PanScroll extension" [mediawiki/extensions/PanScroll] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11851 [12:48:47] New review: Jens Ohlig; "Good job. No objections." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11611 [12:48:50] Change merged: Jens Ohlig; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11611 [12:49:08] 03(mod) WikiPageTest::testDoDeleteArticle fails on PostgreSQL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36759 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [12:49:14] 03(mod) WikiPageTest::testDoDeleteArticle fails on PostgreSQL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36759 (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [12:52:31] 03(mod) Wikimedia should provide media dumps (files, images, etc.) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27939 +comment (10Hydra) [12:53:00] 03(NEW) Wikitables overlapping or appearing in wrong place when image is at the side - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37686 normal; MediaWiki: Parser; (mk440) [12:55:01] 03(FIXED) Wikimedia should provide media dumps (files, images, etc.) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27939 +comment (10Ariel T. Glenn) [12:55:49] New review: Subramanya Sastry; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11831 [12:55:51] Change merged: Subramanya Sastry; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11831 [12:57:16] 03(FIXED) A "current" version of the upload.tar dir would be nice - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/1298 +comment (10Ariel T. Glenn) [13:01:47] 03(mod) Create partial dumps for certain tables (user, ipblocks, etc.) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/25602 +comment (10Hydra) [13:03:49] 03(mod) WikiPageTest::testDoDeleteArticle fails on PostgreSQL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36759 +comment (10Daniel Kinzler) [13:05:10] 03(mod) Static HTML dumps for non-Wikipedia projects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/15017 +comment (10Hydra) [13:08:50] 03(FIXED) Dumps should be incremental - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28956 +comment (10Hydra) [13:08:52] New review: Nikerabbit; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (translatesvg); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9786 [13:11:13] 03(mod) XML meta dumps do not contain/update restrictions tags anymore - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/16360 +comment (10Hydra) [13:11:44] hi. i'm having some trouble with permissions [$wgGroupPermissions] - i have a particular installation with which authentication is requred for access. this part seems to be working, but prior to logging in, the main page displays a "permissions error" message rather than a "login required" message. [13:11:50] 03(NEW) Could not write file due to insufficient permissions or missing directories/containers. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37687 normal; Wikimedia: Media storage; (mormegil) [13:12:22] after some experimenting, it seems that adding $wgGroupPermissions['user']['read'] = true; fixes this, but i'm confused. [13:12:27] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "fixed bug 37458: permission errors running BaseDumpTest on Windows" [mediawiki/core] (Wikidata) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11852 [13:13:10] New review: Nikerabbit; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (translatesvg); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9791 [13:13:18] when a client visits the wiki, before they are logged in, they are in the "*" group, iiuc - so why does changing a setting for the "user" group affect what non logged in users see? [13:14:43] New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (Wikidata); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11852 [13:15:41] 03(mod) Permission errors running BaseDumpTest on Windows - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37458 (10tobias.gritschacher) [13:21:09] 04(REOPENED) Dumps should be incremental - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28956 +comment (10Ariel T. Glenn) [13:23:01] hi lunaphyte_ [13:23:05] reading backscroll [13:23:13] oh, hi :) [13:23:42] hi! must be frustrating to have this problem [13:24:08] oh, i'm sure it's something i'm overlooking - just having trouble figuring out what [13:24:31] I'm wondering whether, in MediaWiki's divisions & groups, all visitors are "users"..... [13:25:16] but I don't know, sorry to say. [13:25:45] OK, so, what kind of auth is required for access? how are you implementing that? [13:25:45] oh, also - for reference - i have an older installation [1.16.0] in which i don't seem to have this problem. [13:26:00] oh, and what version are you running that does have the problem? [13:26:16] i'm using the ldap authentication extension for access. [13:26:37] oh, sorry - the version i'm having trouble with is 1.19.0 [13:26:40] Ryan_Lane wrote that extension, IIRC, so maybe he can help. And he's in Europe so maybe he's working right now! [13:26:42] :-) [13:26:50] New patchset: Hashar; "document parameter to 'modifiedinstance' message" [mediawiki/extensions/OpenStackManager] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11853 [13:27:02] New review: Hashar; "Follow up : https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11853" [mediawiki/extensions/OpenStackManager] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7083 [13:27:14] but if he doesn't, lunaphyte_, I suggest you write up your issue and email mediawiki-l for help [13:27:18] !lists | lunaphyte_ [13:27:18] lunaphyte_: mediawiki-l and wikitech-l are the primary mailing lists for MediaWiki-related issues. See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mailing_lists for details. [13:27:23] ok, thank you [13:28:10] 03(mod) Static HTML dumps for non-Wikipedia projects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/15017 +comment (10Hydra) [13:28:54] what's the appropriate way to utilize javascript in an extension? [13:30:00] btw lunaphyte_ you're welcome to submit patches for that extension to improve it - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/project:mediawiki/extensions/LdapAuthentication,n,z https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developer_access [13:31:16] Vaevictus: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/ResourceLoader ? [13:31:31] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Maps] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11846 [13:31:34] Vaevictus: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/ResourceLoader/Migration_guide_for_extension_developers ? [13:34:07] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "Doing your own cleanup first and then calling parernt::tearDown seems to be The Right Thing, and is ..." [mediawiki/core] (Wikidata); V: 0 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11852 [13:37:48] sumanah: okay, that covers loading an external file, but how to I launch the javascript function with dynamic data? [13:38:21] Vaevictus: I don't know, sorry. ashley do you have an idea? [13:38:53] lunaphyte_: I am indeed here [13:39:18] basically, i'm writing a tag extension that takes a preformatted text input, produces two things: a wiki formatted output (i've got this finished) and a raw download of the text (using downloadify) [13:39:26] though it seems your error doesn't have much to do with ldap [13:39:32] it's a mediawiki permissions problem [13:41:04] * sumanah had not heard of downloadify, looks it up [13:41:26] "A tiny javascript + Flash library that enables the creation and download of text files without server interaction" "a client-side file generation tool based on JavaScript and Flash ActionScript code." [13:41:28] sounds useful [13:41:47] Ryan_Lane: howdy. yeah, my impression was also that it probably wasn't ldap related. [13:42:07] ok [13:42:20] yep. the ldap stuff just does authentication and group synching [13:42:40] it does *some* authorization, but really just denies authentication based on groups (if configured to do so) [13:43:19] are there any debugging mechanisms for mediawiki i could use to learn more about the path it's taking and the decisions it's making? [13:50:49] New review: Netbrain; "looks good." [mediawiki/extensions/PanScroll] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11851 [13:50:51] Change merged: Netbrain; [mediawiki/extensions/PanScroll] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11851 [13:54:03] sumanah: yeah, without downloadify, i'd have to set up a php page that can somehow read the individual tags referenced by a link [13:54:28] as this tag can appear several times on a page, with multiple datasets [13:55:42] New review: Tobias Gritschacher; "The errors occurred when trying to unlink files in the parent's tearDown which were not closed befor..." [mediawiki/core] (Wikidata); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11852 [13:55:55] 03(mod) detect edit conflicts on data items - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37685 (10jeblad) [13:59:10] P1ngu!n! [14:00:37] That sounds like a password... [14:00:59] It was^^ [14:01:20] Vaevictus: sorry that I don't know enough to help... I'm waiting for more knowledgable folks to speak up, but if you don't get an answer, try wikitech-l [14:07:34] 03(NEW) Maps does not pass a V3 API key to Google - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37688 critical; MediaWiki extensions: Maps; (mitchell_neill) [14:08:28] New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Track history link clicks for control group" [mediawiki/extensions/LastModified] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11855 [14:08:29] New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Prevent URIs from getting URI-encoded twice" [mediawiki/extensions/LastModified] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11856 [14:09:21] Danwe_WMDE: i hope "it used to be"... [14:09:54] 03(mod) Rename MediaWiki-CVS list to MediaWiki-commits - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/19958 +comment (10Daniel Zahn) [14:11:27] 03(mod) Display the label of an item in the Recent Changes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37634 (10jeblad) [14:13:26] everybody: Mediawiki or MediaWiki (when it comes to names of mailing lists at least) [14:13:34] we have both [14:15:07] New review: Hashar; "abandonning for now. Feel free to reopen with a new patchset" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7231 [14:15:14] shrug, i am going to say MediaWiki is correct per WP page [14:15:18] stupid gerrit [14:15:19] error: (change 7231) not permitted to abandon change [14:15:20] grr [14:16:09] New review: Hashar; "Icant abandon changes anymore argggg" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7231 [14:16:14] I am pretty sure I used to be able to abandon changes [14:16:32] think i saw you doing that, yep [14:17:56] New patchset: Nikerabbit; "Clean up Ibc6cc01a and fix breakage with old style configs" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11858 [14:18:00] is it possible to put the table of contents at the very top of the page right after the article title, not right above the first section, without using the __TOC__ magic word? [14:18:35] New review: Nikerabbit; "This is not enough, API also needs fix. I made that in https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11858" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11847 [14:21:23] 03(NEW) Prevent direct editing of JSON via the APIs edit action - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37689 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; (daniel.kinzler) [14:21:39] 03(NEW) Spam from mediawiki-cvs-bounces - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37690 normal; Wikimedia: Git/Gerrit; (niklas.laxstrom) [14:25:53] 03(NEW) ItemView should honor ParserOptions::getEditSection() to suppress edit functionality. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37691 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; (daniel.kinzler) [14:28:35] hashar: why would you abandon it? As I explained in the comments, it doesn't give problems [14:29:03] SPQRobin: cause patch did not receive love for like 3 weeks or so [14:29:38] SPQRobin: anyway the main reason is that it changes the meaning of parameters to a public method [14:29:53] SPQRobin: which break back compatibility with third party extensions [14:30:30] because nobody looked at it anymore is a valid reason? [14:30:41] SPQRobin: hello by the way :-]] [14:30:49] well [14:30:52] hashar: as I said, I checked all extensions and it doesn't break back compatibility [14:30:55] I can just -2 / do not submit that patchset [14:31:02] heh, hello :p [14:31:08] and wait till someone submit a new patch set that does not break back compat [14:31:21] ohhh [14:31:26] all extensions hosted by WMF :-] [14:31:27] sorry [14:31:30] should have been more clear [14:31:50] hashar: hey [14:31:55] hashar: I wanted to ask you [14:31:58] we had complaints from third parties, with private extensions, that we do break compatibility too much when upgrading from a version to another [14:32:04] but I forgot what :D [14:32:25] SPQRobin: so that is something we can not detect :( hence the safe way is to avoid changing our public interface [14:32:37] petan: that is why we have bugzilla :-]] [14:32:47] petan: it will come back to your mind soon hopefully [14:32:48] hashar: new bug - my memory suck [14:33:04] hashar: but even if there is an extension not passing the parameter, it doesn't "break", it just gives a few more languages [14:33:22] hashar: oh yes I remember 2 things [14:33:35] hashar: which is really not worth looking for a complicated solution to keep back compat [14:33:50] !g 37662 | hashar [14:33:50] hashar: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#q,37662,n,z [14:33:55] that is one [14:34:24] no wait [14:34:32] that is correct link to gerrit but number of bug :D [14:34:43] SPQRobin: well I am not approving that anyway :-D [14:34:45] !g 11745 [14:34:46] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#q,11745,n,z [14:34:49] this is correct patch [14:35:23] hashar: can you review & deploy? [14:35:48] petan: #wikimedia-tech [14:36:05] hashar: then change your -1 to 0? [14:36:17] New patchset: Mwjames; "Amendments to I5ccc6462: (bug 37446) add new result format" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (result-printer-incoming) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11863 [14:37:42] 03(mod) Rename MediaWiki-CVS list to MediaWiki-commits - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/19958 +comment (10Daniel Zahn) [14:37:48] 03(mod) Prevent direct editing of JSON via the APIs edit action - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37689 +comment (10Nikola Smolenski) [14:40:33] given a message like "You do not have permission to read this page, for the following reason: The action you have requested is limited to users in one of the groups" - how can i determine which page its referring to? [14:40:46] it appears to be a special page, not a regular page [14:40:59] 03(mod) Spam from mediawiki-cvs-bounces - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37690 +comment (10Daniel Zahn) [14:41:55] Hello. Because I'm using path-to-query .htaccess rewrite rules on my wiki, plus signs (+) don't work (as + or %2B). %252B works but I'm wondering if searches will work properly too with this method (eg. typing "example+" returns the Example%252B page in search results) and if it does not add problems I'm not thinking of. Thank you. [14:41:58] 03(mod) Spam from mediawiki-cvs-bounces - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37690 +comment (10Niklas Laxström) [14:43:15] hashar: ok, I'll take the "problem" out of the patch, because 99% of it is fine [14:43:15] lunaphyte_: maybe URL? :P [14:43:29] petan: well - the url is just the main page [14:43:39] in that case you can't read the main pag [14:43:40] which shouldn't be available until the client has logged in [14:43:51] that's actually the problem i'm trying to sort out. [14:43:56] 03(mod) Spam from mediawiki-cvs-bounces - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37690 +comment (10Daniel Zahn) [14:44:01] !permissions [14:44:01] For information on customizing user access, see < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:User_rights >. For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access >. [14:44:02] but is the main page a special page? i didn't think it was [14:44:05] no [14:44:12] that's what is confusing me. [14:44:18] main page is a page like [[Cookies]] [14:44:40] the url says main page, but the content in the browser window says "special page" [14:44:49] !nofollow [14:44:49] You can disable nofollow on external links by adding $wgNoFollowLinks=false; in LocalSettings.php or to some domains only adding $wgNoFollowDomainExceptions = array( 'domaintofollow.com' ); [14:48:10] SPQRobin: yeah I am pretty sure 99% of the cases will be fine [14:48:20] !antibot [14:48:25] SPQRobin: but then, the 1% will just complain how we broke back compat :-D [14:48:30] !e antibot [14:48:30] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:antibot [14:49:33] New patchset: Nikerabbit; "Fix regression in API log events (bug 35635)" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11864 [14:50:17] 03(mod) Loss of newuser/create API components with recent upgrade - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35635 +comment (10Niklas Laxström) [14:50:40] New review: Mwjames; "I'm really getting frustrated with this whole gerrit setup. The patch set was to supposed to be adde..." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (result-printer-incoming) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11863 [14:51:28] hashar: to be clear, breaking back compat in this case is just returning a few more or less language names (which isn't noticable at all), but anyway I'll take that out of the patch... [14:51:40] New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11864 [14:53:27] 03(FIXED) Changing $wgUploadNavigationUrl for da.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37662 +comment (10Peter Bena) [14:55:49] lunaphyte_: no idea [14:56:08] 03(mod) Changing $wgUploadNavigationUrl for da.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37662 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [14:58:48] 14(DUP) First item not expanding on Firefox 13.0, mobile and desktop - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37673 +comment (10Jon) [14:58:50] 03(mod) Cannot toggle first section - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37660 +comment (10Jon) [14:59:22] hi im trying to upgrade my wiki and crash here: Checking existence of old default messages...done. Populating rev_len column ...doing rev_id from 9 to 208 [14:59:48] i dont remember how to bypass it on update.php... [14:59:59] any help? [15:02:06] 03(mod) Can't show old revisions of Wikibase Items - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37681 +comment (10Daniel Kinzler) [15:02:10] Change abandoned: Alex Monk; "I've thought through this a lot more and it seems that someone should try to make sure that filterin..." [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11826 [15:02:34] 03(FIXED) change namespaces used by Collection on fawiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37545 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [15:03:32] 03(mod) Attempting to view private logs in Abusefilter redirects to log from all public filters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37337 +comment (10Krenair) [15:03:39] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "implemented diff display for items, using the ItemDiff class" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11865 [15:04:05] 03(NEW) Assumes one-based page numbers; doesn't work with ImageMagick 6.7.7-2 which returns zero-based page numbers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37692 normal; MediaWiki extensions: PagedTiffHandler; (lupo.bugzilla) [15:04:38] 03(mod) PagedTiffHandler assumes one-based page numbers; doesn't work with ImageMagick 6.7.7-2 which returns zero-based page numbers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37692 summary (10Lupo) [15:04:58] Change abandoned: Mwjames; "I will try to get this on the original change id" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (result-printer-incoming) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11863 [15:05:23] we really want to have a #mediawiki-feed [15:05:54] more bots talking than people [15:06:49] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "(bug 37496) diff display for items, using the ItemDiff class" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11865 [15:06:52] Change restored: Mwjames; "I doesn't work, I really don't have time to waste my time with gerrit." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (result-printer-incoming) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11863 [15:07:15] !overbotted is yes, this channel is overbotted, but I have nothing to do with that :D (if you don't know what overbotted stands for, just stay and watch) [15:07:16] Key was added [15:08:17] I am wondering how many bots would quit if I say: !part, @part, ~part, #part etc... [15:08:28] maybe half a channel :D [15:09:31] petan: try it and see :P [15:10:53] haha: Change restored: Mwjames; "I doesn't work, I really don't have time to waste my time with gerrit." [15:11:43] I knew people will find it hard [15:11:51] 14(INVALID) Direct wikisource: link in bewiki and be_x_oldwiki to bewikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35557 +comment (10Krenair) [15:12:47] 03(mod) Interproject links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/708 +comment (10Amgine) [15:14:56] 03(ASSIGNED) Display a diff between two revisions of a Wikidata item - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37496 +comment (10Daniel Kinzler) [15:15:13] 03(mod) ItemDiff does not work for label and description - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37680 (10Daniel Kinzler) [15:15:15] 03(mod) Display a diff between two revisions of a Wikidata item - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37496 (10Daniel Kinzler) [15:17:43] New patchset: Matthias Mullie; "Bug 37616 - Article Feedback - Increase Test Sample to 10% of English Wikipedia (using article ID code)" [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11867 [15:19:25] 03(mod) Prevent direct editing of JSON via the APIs edit action - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37689 +comment (10Daniel Kinzler) [15:20:34] 03(mod) Interproject links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/708 +comment (10Robin Pepermans (SPQRobin)) [15:20:53] 03(mod) Display the label of an item in the Recent Changes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37634 +comment (10Daniel Kinzler) [15:21:17] New patchset: GWicke; "Serializer refactoring work in progress" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11869 [15:23:12] 03(mod) detect edit conflicts on data items - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37685 +comment (10Daniel Kinzler) [15:29:26] 03(mod) Maps does not pass a V3 API key to Google - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37688 +comment (10Neill Mitchell) [15:29:48] maybe i can try a different approach - how can i allow unauthenticated users to see the "login required" page? [15:30:00] right now they just get a "permission denied" message [15:31:35] 03(mod) Cannot toggle first section - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37660 +comment (10Jon) [15:33:54] 03(mod) Article Feedback - Increase Test Sample to 10% of English Wikipedia (using article ID code) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37616 +comment (10Matthias Mullie) [15:33:54] New patchset: GWicke; "Serializer refactoring work in progress" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11869 [15:36:09] 03(mod) Article Feedback - Slide 'View feedback' link on the Talk page closer to title - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36502 +comment (10Matthias Mullie) [15:40:17] SPQRobin: Will you be available for a couple more hours re: 708? [15:41:48] Amgine: I am available today, yes [15:43:01] Kk, I'll be back in a bit SPQRobin. [15:46:06] Platonides: tyvm for digging into Debian and helping out there :) [15:48:59] no problem hexmode :) [15:49:20] he doesn't seem convinced with the automatic update.php, though [15:49:32] something I'd consider basic for a packaged install :( [15:51:25] Dereckson, woops, thought I had already fixed your comments here: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/11747/ done now [15:52:24] can i make a user an admin with a script in /maintenance? [15:54:10] I don't think so [15:54:23] there's createAndPromote, but that makes a new user first [15:54:42] hmm [15:55:02] so is there a way to make myself admin other than having someone who is already an admin do it from the web interface? [15:55:26] you could insert the entry directly in user_rights table [15:55:34] why do you need to do it this way? [15:56:29] 03(mod) Making widget-container configurable for different Instances - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37678 +comment (10Krenair) [15:56:36] boss told me to make myself an admin on the wiki [15:56:46] lol [15:56:57] and who is currently an admin? [15:57:01] him [15:57:05] xD [15:57:18] do you have SQL access? [15:57:22] sdubois: ^ [15:57:23] yeah, just wanted to see if there was a way that didnt involve bugging him [15:57:36] So add it right into the SQL table as Platonides said [15:57:45] Krenair: yes, but inserting into a table in the DB seems kind of silly [15:58:12] How else do you propose to magic yourself into the MediaWiki DB? [15:58:31] Magically make yourself an admin in the MW DB* [15:58:34] an admin user can do it from the web interface? [15:58:42] A bureaucrat can do it from the web interface [15:58:52] Which is probably your boss [15:59:21] he needs to browse to Special:UserRights [16:02:12] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (result-printer-incoming); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11205 [16:02:14] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (result-printer-incoming) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11205 [16:02:31] 03(FIXED) Rename MediaWiki-CVS list to MediaWiki-commits - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/19958 +comment (10Daniel Zahn) [16:02:36] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (result-printer-incoming); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11863 [16:02:38] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (result-printer-incoming) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11863 [16:03:42] New review: MaxSem; "Other than w/s, this thing looks ok and fixes the problem." [mediawiki/core] (Wikidata); V: 1 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11852 [16:04:16] 03(NEW) Compatibility with MediaWiki 1.19 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37693 normal; MediaWiki extensions: SyntaxHighlight (GeSHi); (jb.renaux) [16:05:04] 03(mod) Compatibility with MediaWiki 1.19 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37693 (10jb.renaux) [16:06:54] could I request some formatting assitance? [16:06:55] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Dispute_over_Turkish_representation_at_Turkic_Wikimedia_Conference_2012 [16:07:17] I want to make left side be put on TOC first and then the right side [16:07:20] how can I do this? [16:07:32] I want the lines to match too [16:09:39] New review: Hashar; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/10763 [16:10:47] 03(mod) Compatibility with MediaWiki 1.19 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37693 +comment (10Max Semenik) [16:12:09] sumanah: thanks :) (re email) much appreciated [16:12:37] Lydia_WMDE: *salute* :) [16:12:39] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11865 [16:15:01] Platonides: we need to talk to Fedora/RH and OpenSuse about their packages, too. I'll try to take care of that, but I'll be looking at what you're doing with Debian ;) [16:15:28] 03(mod) ItemDiff does not work for label and description - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37680 +comment (10Jeroen De Dauw) [16:15:49] Platonides: and, yes, an automatic update.php should be just understood [16:17:31] New review: Hashar; "Another issue is validating the XSD during the setup phase. It looks like it keeps trying to revalid..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/10763 [16:17:41] it's so silly that an update *breaks* your wiki... [16:19:19] do you know if the rpm distros use a similar structure to debian regarding LocalSettings and extensions? [16:21:29] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "fixed bug 37458: permission errors running BaseDumpTest on Windows" [mediawiki/core] (Wikidata) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11852 [16:22:35] it would be good that they were consistent [16:23:10] New review: Tobias Gritschacher; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (Wikidata) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11852 [16:23:58] New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (Wikidata); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11852 [16:26:30] New review: MaxSem; "Thanks!" [mediawiki/core] (Wikidata); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11852 [16:26:33] Change merged: MaxSem; [mediawiki/core] (Wikidata) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11852 [16:27:14] Platonides: I haven't looked yet. But, yes, consistency is the goal. [16:29:43] I am getting "internal_api_error_DBQueryError" while trying out UploadWizard soon after the upload step. What am I doing wrong? [16:31:02] srikanthlogic: That's pretty odd....are you using a campaign? [16:31:17] 03(mod) XML meta dumps do not contain/update restrictions tags anymore - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/16360 +comment (10Umherirrender) [16:31:40] New review: MaxSem; "Hmm, why it's only in Wikidata when the bug affects master?" [mediawiki/core] (Wikidata) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11852 [16:31:43] marktraceur: nope, I would want to though. But this comes right after installation and setting the variables [16:32:16] srikanthlogic: Anything special about the files? [16:32:37] marktraceur: nothing. normal jpg files. the thumbnail get generated after upload, soon after it gives the error [16:32:42] New patchset: MarkTraceur; "(bug 31189) Add languages that exist and have a template" [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9528 [16:33:35] Nikerabbit: ^ hopefully that fixes the problems, if not let me know [16:34:33] srikanthlogic: OK, very strange. Do you have any more debug information by chance? [16:34:36] 03(mod) Separate logging.log_params into a new table - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/10512 +comment (10Tyler Romeo) [16:35:36] marktraceur: where do I get them? I had set debug to true in config. [16:36:25] !b 37519 | srikanthlogic [16:36:25] srikanthlogic: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37519 [16:36:32] That seems related [16:38:08] Not that it's helpful, I'm just trying to figure it out [16:38:45] marktraceur: yes, also mine happens always [16:38:47] New patchset: AABoyles; "Moved changes up to gerrit" [mediawiki/extensions/BreadCrumbs] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11880 [16:39:22] srikanthlogic: Can you confirm that normalsauce Special:Upload won't complain? [16:40:06] marktraceur: normal works. also I notice I don't have license templates ? [16:40:12] would that be an issue ? [16:40:44] srikanthlogic: Probably not, I've tested on a MW instance without templates for some time, no problems [16:43:37] srikanthlogic: Are you using latest git of UW and MW? [16:43:49] (and if not, which version(s)?) [16:43:56] marktraceur: yes, as latest of last saturday [16:44:41] Mmkay, I'll test again [16:46:19] With test images, latest git of UW and MW, and nothing special....no errors [16:46:31] srikanthlogic: Are they big files, maybe? [16:46:46] marktraceur: nope, few KBs [16:47:01] New patchset: GWicke; "Serializer refactoring work in progress" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11869 [16:48:34] 03(NEW) Feedback widget ‘Mouse move over X’( used for tooltip) has no ‘name’ attached to it that prompts screen readers such as Jaws for a click < OH-AFT> - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37694 major; MediaWiki extensions: ArticleFeedbackv5; (mohinder.khosla) [16:49:36] AaronSchulz: sorry to ambush you as soon as you come in, but do you have opinions re this Tim/Roan disagreement? https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Gerrit_project_ownership#Merge_Rights_for_Daniel_Kinzler [16:50:19] 03(mod) Upgrade Gerrit to 2.4.1 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37406 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [16:51:10] sumanah: I looked at that and forgot to comment (I assumed it was going to sail through)...I'd recommend giving him master access [16:51:30] New patchset: GWicke; "Serializer refactoring work in progress" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11869 [16:52:25] AaronSchulz: despite what Roan wrote? ok, mind +1'ing on the page so it's not just me saying so? :) [16:52:36] from his history and the code he submitted and that I reviewed so far, and his cautiousness on this, I'm not really worried [16:52:43] 03(mod) Upgrade Gerrit to 2.4.1 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37406 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [16:53:15] Daniel_WMDE: ^ I'm going to give Roan a chance to retract his no vote later today, which he probably will [16:54:05] well if hearsay is often not admissible in court, I guess I should comment [16:54:24] 03(mod) MediaWiki needs a sane notification system (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32281 +comment (10Tyler Romeo) [16:55:30] Daniel_WMDE: hey, got a moment to talk about Gerrit access stuff? https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/admin/projects/mediawiki/core,access seems to imply that the "wikidata" Gerrit group, which you are part of, should have ownership over the relevant branch [16:55:41] New review: Umherirrender; "I hope, I can make the validation faster by using another way (ideas are welcome), because increasin..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/10763 [16:56:31] which means you should already have the access you need, but I shall confer with experts [17:00:09] New patchset: GWicke; "Serializer refactoring work in progress" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11869 [17:01:56] New review: Jdlrobson; "Forgot to submit the comments..." [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11084 [17:03:57] srikanthlogic: I think to go further I need the database errors....you need to set this config variable: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgDBerrorLog [17:04:26] marktraceur: checking [17:05:21] New review: Aaron Schulz; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11641 [17:05:24] Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11641 [17:06:31] New patchset: Amire80; "CLDR Plural rules based plural form calculation" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11836 [17:07:38] marktraceur: MessageGroups::getAggregateGroups localhost 1146 Table 'git_wiki.translate_metadata' doesn't exist (localhost) SELECT tmd_group,tmd_value FROM `translate_metadata` WHERE tmd_key = 'subgroups' [17:08:36] New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11836 [17:08:50] Hmmm [17:09:43] srikanthlogic: What DB are you using? [17:09:56] marktraceur: MySQL [17:10:18] OK, I may still be on sqlite, let me switch [17:10:33] New review: Katie Horn; "I don't think we want to change the actual logging code, particularly if there isn't any measurable ..." [mediawiki/extensions/DonationInterface] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9599 [17:12:43] New review: Amire80; "I added support for loading CLDR plural rules in JavaScript in patch set 2. It seems to work for Rus..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11836 [17:13:06] srikanthlogic, marktraceur: running update.php should fix that [17:14:45] New review: Aaron Schulz; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/FlaggedRevs] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/10290 [17:14:47] Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/extensions/FlaggedRevs] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/10290 [17:15:15] Ryan_Lane: do you have time to help troubleshoot a Gerrit issue? Evidently Antoine & Chad aren't around. I'm trying to figure out why Daniel Kinzler cannot +2 & merge changes in the Wikidata branch for MediaWiki core, even though he's in a group that has ownership of that branch [17:15:20] Nikerabbit: thanks, worked ! marktraceur [17:15:37] Nikerabbit: Thanks :) [17:18:05] marktraceur: it's better now, but I'm not confident it's good enough yet [17:18:47] Nikerabbit: Anything else I can do? I don't think I can run it less than everytime it's run, since templates could be added specifically for the purpose of adding them to the form [17:19:33] sumanah: gimme a little bit [17:20:02] marktraceur: I don't know how often that file is loaded, but I'd delay the loading of templates until really needed, maybe also cache the results for X minutes [17:20:20] Got it, Ryan. [17:21:04] I have a meeting in 10 min so I may disappear, Ryan_Lane, but Daniel_WMDE will surely be around to try to poke at the issue with you :-) everyone voting on https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Gerrit_project_ownership#Merge_Rights_for_Daniel_Kinzler says "yes, give him at least merge rights on the Wikidata branch" so I at least want to get that taken care of! [17:22:31] lol [17:23:13] I really don't understand why group add/remove rights were taken away from repo owners [17:24:05] there seems to be a whacky access rule: access "refs/heads/refs/heads/Wikidata" [17:27:53] Well, Nikerabbit, that's what I mean--even if it's a few minutes, if someone goes to create the template specifically so they can use that language, the caching would foil that if they were hurrying [17:28:15] 03(NEW) [SRF] 1.8; Add tagcloud template support - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37695 enhancement; MediaWiki extensions: SemanticResultFormats; (jamesin.hongkong.1) [17:28:25] (I might be able to avoid getting the list until later in the process, though....will test) [17:29:22] ok, meeting time, Ryan_Lane -- thx for your time [17:30:29] Well....no, because it would require an extra call to the server later on, something we clearly want to avoid [17:30:53] May as well put this into the change reviews [17:32:12] if it only done on page views involving UW, it can be fine, but certainly not for every request [17:34:04] Nikerabbit: Well, this is just the UW config [17:34:26] And not even the "you should modify this file" config, just the one that gets included for UW pages [17:34:34] The defaults, if you will [17:34:46] 03(NEW) Some globally unified accounts cannot log in - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37696 blocker; MediaWiki: User login; (rschnautz) [17:35:00] New review: MarkTraceur; "In defense of the current state of things:" [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9528 [17:35:31] 03(mod) Some globally unified accounts cannot log in - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37696 +comment (10Rob Schnautz) [17:36:03] dsada [17:36:05] kurcina [17:36:06] dick [17:36:08] fucking [17:36:52] Thanks for visiting! [17:36:59] 03(mod) WikiPageTest::testDoDeleteArticle fails on PostgreSQL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36759 +comment (10Marcin Cieślak) [17:38:54] 03(NEW) Institution pages cannot be viewed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37697 blocker; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (rschnautz) [17:40:16] 14(INVALID) Some globally unified accounts cannot log in - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37696 +comment (10Platonides) [17:40:32] 03(mod) Institution pages cannot be viewed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37697 +comment (10Chad H.) [17:41:14] 03(mod) Institution pages cannot be viewed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37697 +comment (10Platonides) [17:44:29] 03(mod) Institution pages cannot be viewed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37697 +comment (10Rob Schnautz) [17:49:20] New patchset: Mwjames; "(bug 37695) add template support" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11888 [17:50:38] New patchset: Henning Snater; "converted removing of last remaining alias to behave like when saving" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11889 [17:52:49] 03(NEW) Certain sections get clipped in Opera Mobile - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37698 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend; (jrobson) [17:54:10] 03(FIXED) [SRF] 1.8; Add tagcloud template support - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37695 +comment (10MWJames) [17:54:14] 03(FIXED) Certain sections get clipped in Opera Mobile - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37698 +comment (10Jon) [17:57:11] 03(FIXED) Cannot toggle first section - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37660 +comment (10Jon) [18:00:09] 03(mod) Institution pages cannot be viewed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37697 +comment (10Rob Schnautz) [18:04:45] 03(mod) Institution pages cannot be viewed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37697 +comment (10Platonides) [18:06:06] 03(mod) Gerrit drafts should be visible to anonymous users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37115 +comment (10Dereckson) [18:07:14] New patchset: SPQRobin; "Use Xml::languageSelector in SpecialAllmessages" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7231 [18:09:17] New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7231 [18:09:36] New patchset: SPQRobin; "Use Xml::languageSelector in SpecialAllmessages" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7231 [18:11:57] New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7231 [18:15:40] marktraceur: am using upload campaigns and can you tell me if what I see is bug? [18:16:13] marktraceur: in the list "The licenses that should be choosable for own-work:" , I have chosen only "The license is described by the following wikitext (must contain a valid copyright tag)" [18:16:38] but when I use the campaign it gives me to chose all other licenses as well [18:17:46] 03(mod) mobileaction=toggle_view_desktop needs token. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36593 +comment (10Jon) [18:17:56] New review: SPQRobin; "I tried to make clear that the problem is really not worth abandoning this change for, but Hashar di..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7231 [18:18:13] 03(mod) change namespaces used by Collection on fawiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37545 (10Dereckson) [18:18:59] New patchset: Hashar; "merge msg script now detects extensions main files" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9504 [18:19:33] New review: Hashar; "Patchset 2 fix typos in commit message (thanks Siebrand)." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9504 [18:21:03] New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9504 [18:21:58] 03(FIXED) new format: value ranking - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31938 +comment (10MWJames) [18:23:00] 03(mod) Article Feedback - Increase Test Sample to 10% of English Wikipedia (using article ID code) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37616 +comment (10Reha Sterbin) [18:25:41] 03(mod) Add specific reviewer in Gerrit on SQL changes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36228 +comment (10Chad H.) [18:26:50] 03(mod) Dolphin on Samsung Jet receives WAP content - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30827 +comment (10Jon) [18:27:01] New review: Hashar; "I guess you want the XSD to be validated just once. Also note you can make tests depends on each oth..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/10763 [18:29:43] New patchset: MaxSem; "Update MobileFrontend to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf4) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11893 [18:30:41] New review: preilly; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf4); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11893 [18:30:44] Change merged: preilly; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf4) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11893 [18:31:27] Hello [18:32:14] New patchset: MaxSem; "Update MobileFrontend to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf5) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11894 [18:32:39] New review: preilly; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf5); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11894 [18:32:41] Change merged: preilly; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf5) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11894 [18:37:31] Good morning sumanah. [18:37:34] Hi Dereckson! [18:38:15] 03(mod) API returns the wrong values for 'total' and 'count' of ratings - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30227 +comment (10Ryan Kaldari) [18:40:38] I welcome paulprot1us (paulproteus) and other #openhatch folks as they help plan the Wikimania hackathon [18:42:09] Nice to be welcomed, sumanah (-: [18:42:42] Thank you for your involvement in Wikimedia projects paulproteus. [18:42:45] paulproteus: :-) It's good to be working with you. [18:42:58] Aww < 3 Dereckson [18:43:26] New patchset: saper; "Fix INSERT options for PostgreSQL for INSERT+SELECT" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11895 [18:43:47] RoanKattouw: ah there you are! welcome to Monday. Am trying to avoid ambushing you, so let me know when you have a moment [18:44:31] sumanah: Ambush ahead [18:44:57] RoanKattouw: 1) https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Gerrit_project_ownership#Merge_Rights_for_Daniel_Kinzler -- I request that you reply onwiki re whether you wish to retract your No vote [18:45:17] 03(mod) Article Feedback - Increase Test Sample to 10% of English Wikipedia (using article ID code) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37616 +comment (10Terry Chay) [18:45:28] New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11895 [18:45:35] RoanKattouw: 2) https://wikimania2012.wikimedia.org/wiki/Hackathon ... if you're going to be there, add your name? [18:46:27] sumanah: 1) is done [18:46:28] and RoanKattouw 3) I think Ryan_Lane is trying to work on this and Platonides had an idea, but do you have a clue as to why the permissions are/were messed up so Daniel_WMDE can't merge to the Wikidata branch? [18:47:56] 2) added [18:47:59] Ah [18:48:08] Let me fix that sig so it's not the office IP :D [18:48:39] New review: Jorm; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/LastModified] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11856 [18:48:52] Looking at 3) now [18:48:53] "The Wikimedia office will be there! in some way!" [18:49:09] Yes! [18:49:21] maybe we should bring a little snowglobe [18:49:29] with a model of the office inside [18:49:33] You can't bring snowglobes on the plane [18:49:52] Last time I was at Dulles there was a sign at the security checkpoint specifically about snowglobes [18:50:08] RoanKattouw: you haven't relaxed the policy about liquids? [18:50:15] There must be a market for snowglobe parts where you then finish the assembly at the other end, yourself [18:50:45] 03(mod) Article Feedback - Increase Test Sample to 10% of English Wikipedia (using article ID code) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37616 +comment (10Terry Chay) [18:50:46] What, the US, relax any rules related to travel? Never! [18:50:51] RoanKattouw: snowglobes often feel poignant and melancholy to me, so a denial made to a snowglobe feels especially evocative [18:51:25] RoanKattouw: if I ever write fiction involving a TSA officer, s/he should be Officer Ratchet, for that reason [18:51:31] (the "no relaxation" thing) [18:52:05] but anyway! thanks for your time RoanKattouw [18:52:45] RoanKattouw: since you are an OpenHatch fan you may be pleased to know that OpenHatch is planning & running the novice-focused half of the Wikimania hackathon [18:53:50] RoanKattouw: in EU, we loosened up a little bit reglementation to allow liquid bought in duty free area, raise pharmaceutical/cosmetic max amount from 50 ml to 100 ml [18:54:06] RoanKattouw: so if it were a liquid issue, you would be able to buy a snowglobe in the airport [18:54:19] sumanah: I just read that e-mail, yeah. I figured Asheesh would've told me about that last night but he didn't [18:54:35] And I have a sad postscript RoanKattouw ... the Berlin hackathon videos are being edited now, and it looks like 1 video was lost: the video of your MySQL optimization talk. [18:54:51] Funny thing, I drove Asheesh home last night because he had bought a saw at the hardware store on his way to the bar [18:55:04] Awww [18:55:14] Well they recorded the second run, which wasn't as good anyway [18:55:24] The first run was great, lots more interaction with the audience [18:55:25] I am told there was a trainee behind the camera. [18:55:36] New patchset: GWicke; "Serializer refactoring work in progress" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11869 [18:55:48] It was also up in the unfindable room where there was no camera [18:55:57] RoanKattouw: if you felt like delivering the talk again during Wikimania, either during the hackathon days or the unconference day, I would support you in this [18:56:16] RoanKattouw: have you read the Harry Potter books? maybe that room was Unplottable [18:56:30] Have I read ........ I thought you knew that :) yeah great reference [18:56:39] * sumanah forgets things! [18:56:51] I do too apparently, or I would've mentioned Unplottable myself [18:57:04] I swear I've lamented the findability of that room a hundred times that weekend [18:57:12] it was pretty last-minute getting it [18:57:16] Yeah [18:57:22] once we experienced the noise levels [18:57:27] we got a mitigation, which is good [18:57:39] but yes, the room had pluses & minuses [18:57:45] Hey it was quiet [18:57:48] yeah [18:57:58] quiet because it was in another dimension [18:58:08] a rare pocket in the space-time continuum [18:58:26] accessible through a wormhole called "weird elevator" [18:58:30] New patchset: Jalexander; "Add basic geolocation (currently assuming CN or WMF being run)" [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaShopLink] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11896 [18:58:35] Yeah [18:58:40] Anyway -- [18:58:44] we should have called it "the delta quadrant" [18:58:46] The wikidata permissions look good to me [18:58:49] hmm [18:59:02] It looks like Daniel should be able to submit as well as +@ [18:59:03] Daniel_WMDE: can you try merging a test commit into the Wikidata branch and see whether it works now? [18:59:04] *+2 [18:59:13] I'll email him. [19:00:07] I think we should fix this (so we know how to fix it!) before we give him overall merge permissions for core.git, because once we do that we'll lose the ability to usefully troubleshoot the branch ownership stuff [19:00:08] agreed? [19:05:45] Yes [19:05:48] sumanah: the maintainer of fr.planet.wikimedia.org, nohjan, have asked me if I'd know when the projects still on the svn will be transfered to git. Have you an idea? [19:06:03] Dereckson: let's look at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Conversion#Affected_development_projects [19:06:09] 03(NEW) Uzbek Wikipedia logo change - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37699 normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (abdulla.karimov) [19:06:28] Dereckson: Chad would like to gradually migrate all projects currently on Wikimedia's Subversion repository so that he can make all of svn.wikimedia.org read-only by the middle of 2013 [19:06:58] Dereckson: are there any Subversion repositories in particular that nohjan is interested in? [19:07:01] 03(mod) Interproject links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/708 +comment (10Anthere) [19:07:19] "Was moved into operations/puppet.git (in files/planet) by Dzhan." <-- it peans it's already done? [19:08:07] Hi multichill [19:08:18] Dereckson: I'm sorry, I don't know.... mutante do you have more info on the WM planet configuration move into Git? [19:08:26] Hi. In version 1.16 I NEED to delete all of the users who have not yet edited (over 3,000 accounts were created, and they are all spammers, and they were stocking them up for when I disabled anonymous editing and account creation, which I just did) such that they don't even appear in the account creation log or recent changers. Is there a SQL statement for that? [19:08:27] Dereckson: (mutante is Daniel Zahn) [19:08:31] 03(mod) Several history entries for the same content - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37225 +comment (10Richard Guk) [19:08:32] hi Dereckson [19:08:45] matthiasmullie: did you receive my mail from June 13th about how to localize licenses text? [19:08:45] lw14: you might be interested in the Secretaribot script https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Secretaribot [19:08:54] !abuse [19:08:55] AbuseFilter is an extension that tags and filters problematic edits. For more information, see [19:08:56] multichill: I did [19:08:57] !spam [19:08:57] For information about combating and handling spam in MediaWiki, see and . [19:09:09] Dereckson: ;-) [19:09:19] New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11897 [19:10:28] Dereckson: Sorry, I'm a bit backlogged. [19:10:44] I am going to restart jenkins soon [19:10:47] Easiest is to make everything local at Commons. When it all works I can add the message to the extension [19:11:17] with anonymous editing and account creation disabled, I will have no problems with spam going forward, except with the accounts already created. I don't want to have to answer y or n 3,000 times. I just want to delete all accounts which have not edited. PLEASE tell me there is SQL which will do that [19:11:38] lw14: did you see my answer? [19:11:47] you can't delete accounts [19:12:01] merge_blocked_users.py [19:12:06] multichill: hmmm... my question were more "Where those message go?" so I could submit a patch on gerrit [19:12:16] lw14: look at "merge_blocked_users.py" [19:12:20] sumanah: yes, I read it. That's what I was referring to in my statement about not wanting to answer y or n 3,000 times. [19:12:51] lw14: (I have not used Secretaribot myself. nischayn22 has looked into it, I think) [19:12:56] Jasper_Deng: why not? What happens if I delete the rows in the user table? [19:13:00] 03(mod) Several history entries for the same content - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37225 +comment (10Krenair) [19:13:02] Dereckson: You can just add a message like https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Wm-license-cc-by-sa-3.0-ch-text [19:13:08] lw14: many things go wacky [19:13:21] for example, history pages will be broken [19:13:24] Jasper_Deng: such as? [19:13:41] users who have not edited do not appear in history tables [19:13:44] and any new accounts will assume the same user IDs as those accounts [19:13:59] just don't do it [19:14:00] * hashar shutdowns jenkins [19:14:16] Jasper_Deng: bullcrap [19:14:20] Jasper_Deng: I think lw14 will need better reasons [19:14:24] multichill: that's already done [19:14:25] New review: Amire80; "Ping, is anything happening with it?" [mediawiki/extensions/Narayam] (master); V: 1 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7741 [19:14:38] * sumanah looks at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:User_Merge_and_Delete [19:14:57] lw14: the log entries of their creations somehow must have attribution to someone [19:14:59] also, lw14 have you looked at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:RemoveUnusedAccounts.php ? [19:15:03] I'd reccomend using that extension [19:15:39] multichill: so let's hope every wiki didn't need it. By the way, in which extension the license messages belong? [19:15:54] someone just booted me with a forced SYN packet!? [19:16:00] forged* [19:16:08] lw14_: http://bots.wmflabs.org/~wm-bot/logs/%23mediawiki/20120618.txt in case you want to catch up on what we said while you were offline [19:16:22] do the spammers hang out here to make sure that people don't get told how to delete their accounts?!? [19:16:31] no [19:16:34] lw14, umm... [19:16:40] dereckson: not sure, doesn't ring a bell; you wouldn't happen to know the mail subject? [19:16:41] I doubt it [19:16:41] spammers do sockpuppetry instead [19:16:53] Dereckson: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?p=mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaMessages.git;h=38eb665c3eebb24b509ae96c3f49c50a4fa429de [19:17:35] WikimediaMessages, thank you. When I will have a license really used on several wiki, I will know where to go. [19:17:36] lw14_: I sympathize with your problems -- spammers are very frustrating -- but we have never heard of spammers hanging out in #mediawiki to sabotage antispam efforts on non-Wikimedia wikis [19:17:58] sumanah: it looks like https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:RemoveUnusedAccounts.php is what I want [19:18:08] matthiasmullie: oh I'm sorry, I did a tab error ; I mailed multichill, not you [19:18:17] oh ok ^^ [19:19:16] lw14_: I found that by searching on mediawiki.org for the words "delete" and "accounts" [19:20:59] the links to source code in https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:RemoveUnusedAccounts.php are all broken, but https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/attachment.cgi?id=10674&action=edit is a perfect solution [19:21:06] thank you [19:21:21] lw14_: one moment [19:21:37] lw14_: look on your server; look in the "maintenance" directory in your installation of MediaWiki [19:22:24] lw14_: you should see a number of maintenance scripts, including "RemoveUnusedAccounts" - source code at https://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/maintenance/removeUnusedAccounts.php?view=markup&pathrev=112339 [19:23:00] yes, they are there; thank you [19:23:43] the source code I'm pointing to is old [19:23:52] it's from when we used Subversion; we now use Git [19:24:02] * sumanah finds new source code [19:24:13] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?p=mediawiki/core.git;a=tree;f=maintenance;h=0191b154771b955afc196c5cb0ae90bf1812af8e;hb=refs/heads/master [19:24:33] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?p=mediawiki/core.git;a=blob;f=maintenance/removeUnusedAccounts.php;h=b288c2fb48592902c999b17774d82eddb22238fb;hb=refs/heads/master [19:25:07] sumanah: Thanks for your forwards btw [19:26:00] those scripts in v1.16 are sufficient, sumanah: $dbw->delete( 'user', array( 'user_id' => $del ), $fname ); ...is good enough because those users don't appear in the logging or recentchanges tables [19:26:24] multichill: oh, of the PyCon stuff? you are welcome! [19:26:38] hmm, anyone tell me why 'Esgl\ufffdsia Saint-Julien (Axiat) 1340047507325' is not a valid file name for upload? [19:26:46] missing extension? spaces? unicode? [19:26:48] thanks again. Bye. Good luck with the evil sockpuppeting spammers [19:26:50] Backslash? [19:26:55] Krenair: want to help with a bit of template hacking? as lw14_ found, https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Template:MW_file is wrong [19:27:05] RoanKattouw: i don't think that's a literal backslash, i copy pasted this from a json.stringify [19:27:17] Krenair: it points to SVN instead of Git [19:27:26] Oh, \ufffd [19:27:27] RoanKattouw: so that's probably unicode codepoint fffd [19:27:35] Do you know what 0xfffd is in Unicode? [19:27:46] sumanah: (I found the status for the svn->git transition ; planet is already in the test branch of operations/puppet but not in prod) [19:27:48] right, that doesn't look right but i'm unsure what it is [19:27:54] http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/fffd/index.htm [19:28:03] replacement char [19:28:06] used to replace an incoming character whose value is unknown or unrepresentable in Unicode [19:28:22] that's... interesting. [19:28:36] Dereckson: ah! can you update that "Affected development projects" section to say so? [19:28:41] i'm getting the data out from JSON, so I'd assume that it can go back in... [19:28:46] U+FFFD is a red flag for conversion errors, I think that's why it's not allowed [19:28:50] but yeah, encoding. so stuff. [19:29:13] RoanKattouw: interestingly it displays properly [19:29:30] Dereckson: if you have a bit of time and interest in some template fixes, it would be great to have https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Template:MW_file updated to it points to Git instead of SVN [19:29:31] wtf [19:29:32] as an e with a tilde on top [19:29:38] (on webkit) [19:29:40] That [19:29:41] 's very strange [19:30:06] yeah, so it is getting mangled somewhere in between [19:30:10] hmm, let me see what I'm sending it [19:30:14] maybe the server mangles it? [19:30:18] * yuvipanda goes to put console.logs [19:30:22] sumanah: noted [19:30:56] sumanah, this seems like a tricky one to fix [19:31:03] mw-jenkinsbot: welcome back? [19:31:03] hashar you may not issue bot commands in this chat! [19:31:27] lol. [19:31:39] hashar: this is practice for when your kid is a teenager :) [19:31:52] "how was your day?" "DON'T TALK TO ME DAD!" *doorslam* [19:31:55] can't wait for her to start programming :-D [19:31:58] haha [19:32:08] New review: Shantanoo; "Since nobody is opposing, and the expected rendering is correct (rendered one and the way it is writ..." [mediawiki/extensions/Narayam] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7741 [19:32:33] hashar: sumanah relevant xkcd https://xkcd.com/573/ [19:32:49] ha [19:33:09] :)D [19:33:16] hahaha [19:33:27] educating a kid is all about conditioning it :-D [19:33:45] 03(mod) Article Feedback - Increase Test Sample to 10% of English Wikipedia (using article ID code) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37616 +comment (10Matthias Mullie) [19:33:47] RoanKattouw: I emailed Randall Munroe to tell him that one of the Constellation Games chapters is "Someone is Wrong on the Outernet" in the hopes this would make him more likely to read the book [19:33:52] heh [19:34:05] I liked that title [19:34:26] 03(ASSIGNED) Uzbek Wikipedia logo change - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37699 normal->trivial; +shellpolicy; +comment (10Dereckson) [19:35:01] New patchset: Hashar; "patchset adding a PHP file" [test/mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11899 [19:35:39] New review: Catrope; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11867 [19:35:41] Change merged: Catrope; [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11867 [19:35:57] New patchset: Hashar; "patchset adding PHP and SQL files" [test/mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11899 [19:36:42] New patchset: GWicke; "Serializer refactoring work in progress" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11869 [19:36:50] Platonides: I finished the LogPage::logName replacements by the way ; I'll test if titles are consistent in old and new version this evening. [19:38:09] RoanKattouw: is there any way to see what jquery is actually sending the server? [19:38:14] without having to setup wireshark, etc? [19:38:15] sumanah, okay, I'm working on fixing this now. [19:38:25] 03(mod) Several history entries for the same content - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37225 +comment (10Richard Guk) [19:38:27] (from a mobile device, so no proper debuggers other than console.log) [19:38:34] Thank you Krenair, appreciated. [19:38:43] yuvipanda: is Firebug not helpful? [19:38:48] Unfortunately pages using this template weren't made with gitweb in mind [19:38:50] yuvipanda: (helpful enough I mean) [19:38:55] So they have problems like file paths beginning with / [19:38:56] sumanah: added note about being on mobile device, so no firebug [19:38:58] Which break the link [19:39:05] oh sorry yuvipanda [19:39:10] sumanah: all you get is ol' style printf debugging [19:39:14] Krenair: well blergh! [19:39:30] I think I can get rid of that with ParserFunctions and then later AWB [19:39:41] 03(mod) Article Feedback - Increase Test Sample to 10% of English Wikipedia (using article ID code) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37616 +comment (10Terry Chay) [19:40:38] * yuvipanda sets up wireshark [19:40:54] Hm, nope. Don't think I can [19:44:58] New patchset: GWicke; "Serializer refactoring work in progress" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11869 [19:47:03] after upgrading to MediaWiki 1.19.1, the EditPage::showEditForm:initial hook is being run on all of my pages, rather than just the editor page [19:50:29] 03(mod) Add specific reviewer in Gerrit on SQL changes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36228 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [19:50:45] Hi Fatbag [19:51:03] Quick question, fresh install of MediaWiki for small-time use - Easy to later-on (post-install/config) enable PHP caching? (I would presume so, just not much need for it now) [19:51:22] hi [19:52:07] Fatbag: you already know where in the code the hook is called where it shouldn't be? [19:52:27] no. I'm not very familiar with the MediaWiki code, but I could try to look [19:53:59] Fatbag: okay ; I guess a search on the hookname (EditPage::showEditForm:initial) is the starting point ; thank for your help and good luck in your hunt [19:54:21] :P [19:54:22] Fatbag: when you found it or consider you can't find it, you can open a bug on http://bugzilla.mediawiki.org [19:54:32] it's the prefered way to track the bugs [19:54:37] Alright [19:55:43] |awk [19:55:46] !awk [19:55:51] !grep [19:55:51] Try ack instead; it's mostly the same syntax as grep but much faster. http://betterthangrep.com/ and https://github.com/petdance/ack [19:55:57] that's it, ack and not awk [19:56:11] what is the name of the "login required" special page that is displayed when a client attempts to access a page that requires the user be logged in? [19:56:15] there is also awk, which is a different tool [19:56:22] right [19:58:24] RoanKattouw: looks like phonegap is messing up the encodings [19:59:56] New review: Jay Huggins; "The note about infinite loops was not about an introduced problem, but was a warning about the insta..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8783 [20:00:35] New patchset: GWicke; "Serializer refactoring" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11869 [20:01:10] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Lets derive from article because a bunch of hook handlers (for instance in flagged revs) are type hinting using Article. Now it's even more of a mess, but that really is hard to avoid with current state of relevant core code :/" [mediawiki/extensions/EducationProgram] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11941 [20:01:47] 03raymond * 10/trunk/extensions/ (22 files in 21 dirs): Localisation updates from http://translatewiki.net. [20:04:55] sumanah, it's literally a one byte change to almost 100 pages: https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Manual:GetLagTimes.php&diff=prev&oldid=551123 [20:07:54] Oh. okay. So it looks like I've hit a Wine bug [20:08:37] Krenair: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/KrenairBot implies that there are some substitutions of redlink template [20:08:50] Yes [20:08:56] The template was deprecated [20:09:06] oh, that was in May [20:09:07] I used the bot to substitute the template, then deleted it [20:09:07] (never mind) [20:11:06] Krenair: so when I look at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:RemoveUnusedAccounts.php I just remove that prefixtual / and it works! [20:11:07] thank you [20:12:40] so, what's the next step? you use that bot to remove the initial / from a bunch of those pages? [20:14:58] Setting up new Wiki: "User rights profile" option: Can I toggle this later? (Setting to 'Account creation required' may want to bump to 'authorized editors only' later) [20:18:25] New patchset: AABoyles; "Extensive Bugfixes" [mediawiki/extensions/BreadCrumbs] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11942 [20:22:54] 03(mod) Several history entries for the same content - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37225 +comment (10Platonides) [20:23:46] New review: Catrope; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11347 [20:23:48] Change merged: Catrope; [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11347 [20:24:09] 03(NEW) Change logo and settings for stewardwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37700 normal; Wikimedia: Site configuration; (trijnstel) [20:24:17] Q_Continuum, yes, you can change the configuration later [20:24:34] Wonderful. Won't get too worried then :-D [20:25:57] 03(mod) Change logo and settings for stewardwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37700 +comment (10Peter Bena) [20:27:16] 03(ASSIGNED) Change logo and settings for stewardwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37700 (10Peter Bena) [20:31:35] 03(mod) Change logo and settings for stewardwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37700 +comment (10Krenair) [20:31:48] New patchset: Daniel Werner; "converted removing of last remaining alias to behave like when saving" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11889 [20:31:56] hello is it possible to import a Template from a pool wiki to a language wiki? [20:32:48] Marc_Locher, from a what wiki to a what wiki? [20:34:47] 03(mod) Change logo and settings for stewardwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37700 +comment (10Platonides) [20:35:53] Krenair, trijnstel is a steward [20:35:53] New review: Daniel Werner; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11889 [20:35:59] New review: Daniel Werner; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11889 [20:36:02] Change merged: Daniel Werner; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11889 [20:36:02] Platonides, I'm aware -.- [20:36:10] Hence ':P' [20:36:13] and the requested changes look straightforward [20:36:24] ah, you were joking [20:36:26] wasn't sure [20:37:04] 03(NEW) Add missing i18n messages for the monuments database - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37701 normal; Monuments database: API; (maarten) [20:38:06] 03(mod) Change logo and settings for stewardwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37700 +shell; +comment (10Peter Bena) [20:38:08] I have three wikis en English, German and a Pool for the images. I includ the Images from the pool and my question is ; Is it possible to make the same white templates? [20:38:13] 03(mod) Change logo and settings for stewardwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37700 +comment (10Peter Bena) [20:38:23] New review: Catrope; "The limitless queries and the regex processing of the queries are extremely evil and must not be mer..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11282 [20:38:45] 03(mod) Change logo and settings for stewardwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37700 +comment (10Peter Bena) [20:39:33] Marc_Locher: we prepare a wiki database to achieve the same goal, it's the wikidata project [20:39:47] Marc_Locher: you'll find more information on http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata [20:40:20] but currently, there is no prototype doing what you wish, so the best way would be a bot detecting change to templates in your pool and importing them on your en. and de. [20:41:05] thank you [20:43:10] 03(mod) WikiPageTest::testDoDeleteArticle fails on PostgreSQL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36759 +comment (10Marcin Cieślak) [20:43:10] 03(mod) Change logo and settings for stewardwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37700 +comment (10Trijnstel) [20:44:02] New patchset: MarkTraceur; "Fix some bugs, add in some extra configuration variables" [mediawiki/extensions/EtherEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11945 [20:44:34] New review: MarkTraceur; "This is necessary to get the test instance working." [mediawiki/extensions/EtherEditor] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11945 [20:44:47] Change merged: MarkTraceur; [mediawiki/extensions/EtherEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11945 [20:45:52] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "Awesome!" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11888 [20:45:54] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11888 [20:46:32] New review: Catrope; "Marking -2 because of dependency on unmerged core change." [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master); V: 0 C: -2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11283 [20:46:35] sumanah, can we get your help a few minutes? [20:46:40] Platonides: I can try! [20:46:53] What's up? [20:47:11] head to #wikimedia-es [20:47:16] Hi, what causes this error... The database did not find the text of a page that it should have found, named "(fixme, bug)" . [20:47:16] This is usually caused by following an outdated diff or history link to a page that has been deleted. [20:49:58] hmm. did something change with interlanguage links ? [20:50:00] http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tibulati [20:50:21] it's with lowercase first letter all of a sudden [20:51:03] New review: Dereckson; "Good evening," [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11587 [20:51:05] New review: Catrope; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11566 [20:51:07] Change merged: Catrope; [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11566 [20:51:38] ah wmf5 [20:52:02] thedj: wmf v. 5? [20:52:04] :D [20:52:13] didn't know foundation is versioned [20:52:15] 03(NEW) Cloned tables for unitests do not have references and constraints - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37702 major; MediaWiki: Unit tests; (marcin.cieslak) [20:52:15] 03(mod) WikiPageTest::testDoDeleteArticle fails on PostgreSQL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36759 (10Marcin Cieślak) [20:52:16] 03(mod) WikiPageTest::testDoDeleteUpdates fails on PostgreSQL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37600 (10Marcin Cieślak) [20:52:33] deploy 5 [20:52:43] Hello. When using MediaWiki:Common.css, what is the base path (for urls)? The /skin folder? /skin/common ? [20:52:45] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36819 [20:53:00] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "some clarification for now, will look into the style issues soon." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11865 [20:53:07] not really logical for the interface I guess, but logical in terms of data. [20:53:08] New review: Amire80; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master); V: 1 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11858 [20:53:29] Max252B: Probably https://bits.wikimedia.org/en.wikipedia.org/ or something. Nothing useful anyway [20:53:43] If you need to use URLs in Common.css, use absolute URLs [20:53:55] (You could also try and find out) [20:54:03] Change abandoned: Amire80; "Done better in https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/11858/ ." [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11847 [20:54:38] Ok, thank you. (could be useful on http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/CSS ) [20:55:02] (e.g. put a url(foobar) rule in there, then look at the list of requests in Firebug / browser console and see what it prefixed foobar with) [20:57:00] SPQRobin: we start to have feedback about your bold move [20:57:01] 21:19:11 < Aelfnoth> Il se passe quoi avec les iwks sur en: ? [20:57:01] 21:19:38 < Aelfnoth> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fran%C3%A7ois_Hollande certaines langues commencent par des minuscules maintenant [20:57:06] New review: Siebrand; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master); V: 0 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11858 [20:57:07] Max252B: mw.config.get('skin') [20:57:08] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11858 [20:57:09] Shouldn't you write a blog post to explain it? [20:57:48] yeah, i think a blog post is not a bad idea. [20:57:54] Max252B: But you can't use javascript in css :) - can you be more specific in your case? There is no general best solution. [20:57:55] it's a rather visible change [20:58:11] actually i'm waiting for the first "the devs never communicate shit"-post... [20:59:02] New review: Catrope; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11728 [20:59:04] Change merged: Catrope; [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11728 [20:59:04] thedj: I was going to file a bug about that. It looks broken, not all of them are lowercase [20:59:12] Can't we just do $wgLang->ucfirst ? [20:59:26] thedj: a blog post about what? [20:59:28] * sumanah missed something [20:59:33] Krinkle: I just wanted to know if I could use relative paths for urls in MediaWiki:Common.css, but apparently this is not possible. [20:59:34] sumanah: interlanguage link changes [20:59:37] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36819 [20:59:39] oh dear [20:59:59] Max252B: All CSS is aggregated in a minified package. Meaning the path is still relative, but not relative to what you think it is relative to [21:00:01] thedj: siebrand_ & the i18n team didn't blog, etc. about that? [21:00:07] Krinkle: For Common.css though .... [21:00:14] I don't think it does any remapping there [21:00:16] I mean it's not a real file [21:00:21] exactly [21:00:41] sumanah: thedj : http://cl.ly/352W0F3a3X1x3L0H1v3s [21:01:02] the inter language list [21:01:10] it looks cluttered [21:01:25] thedj: So who changed it? [21:01:31] {text-transform:capitalize;} should work [21:01:34] I must be missing something. What is the change? [21:01:39] thedj: that doesn't account for language [21:01:41] * sumanah isn't good at this [21:01:50] robin changed it. [21:01:57] This is not a style but a language related issue, otherwise i18n team wouldn't change it [21:02:07] SPQRobin: So what's the reason? [21:02:14] it is. francais is not written with a capital in French [21:02:23] New patchset: GWicke; "Improve newline handling for comments and nowiki/noinclude tags" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11946 [21:02:32] thedj: Yes, but it is in English [21:02:36] nope, :D [21:02:38] Hm.. [21:02:39] it's francais [21:02:42] thedj: français [21:02:59] Dereckson: blegh, irssi == ascii :D [21:03:04] Krinkle: as thedj is trying to explain [21:03:10] thedj: false, I use irssi in utf-8 [21:03:18] Krinkle: it's to follow language grammar [21:03:25] Yes, but when the visitor is on a wiki, it should be rendered according to the content language right? Lets assume for a second that someone reading an article on English Wikipedia is capable of reading english. [21:03:30] some languages don't capitalize languages adjectives [21:03:33] Krinkle: I made the first letter of language names lowercase where this is usual in the spelling, also to make it consistent with CLDR [21:03:38] I'd go as far as saying it should read "French" not "franca is" [21:03:43] New review: Subramanya Sastry; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11869 [21:03:45] Change merged: Subramanya Sastry; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11869 [21:03:51] SPQRobin: I understand, that makes sense if the content language is french [21:04:03] Krinkle: maybe it's to help people speaking the target language but not English to switch more easily [21:04:10] it is [21:04:23] 03(mod) Cloned tables for unitests do not have references and constraints - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37702 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [21:04:26] is that a use case? someone lost on the English wiki trying to find their way back? [21:04:43] Krinkle: what does the content language have to do with this? [21:04:56] SPQRobin: Aside from content language, one can also argue sentence case is related. [21:05:15] SPQRobin: content (or user) language is related because the list is rendered in a context [21:05:15] 03(mod) WikiPageTest::testDoDeleteArticle fails on PostgreSQL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36759 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [21:05:20] I meant user language, not content language [21:05:26] I find sentence case a more convincing argument here... [21:06:04] New review: Subramanya Sastry; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11946 [21:06:05] So if I'm a French user (RTL) on a Hebrew wiki, the interface is in French and RTL. And I see interface messages and language list in French [21:06:06] Change merged: Subramanya Sastry; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11946 [21:06:17] Do we have language names as cross index? [21:06:20] you could say that even if it's francais, because of it being embeede into the English interface, it should follow English sentence conventions. [21:06:23] or only in origin langauge? [21:06:35] thedj: exactly, so user language (context language) [21:07:01] (thedj: you use irssi directly, or through screen/tmux?) [21:07:15] Dereckson: screen [21:07:23] and it's actually utf-8, i'm just lazy [21:07:48] thedj: http://anti.teamidiot.de/nei/2007/02/irssi_putty_screen_unicode_utf/ will help you to configure it without too much effort [21:08:20] What if we always use the translated list if someone has chosen a specific interface language OTHER than the 'default' interface language of a wiki ? [21:08:23] And if you find a irssi newbie, give him instead http://quadpoint.org/articles/irssi/ [21:09:02] Krinkle / thedj: I don't think we have the lowercase/uppercase information per language except in the language name itself, so we can't depend on the convention of a specific language [21:09:09] so if you go to pt.wikipedia.org, you would see all interlanguage links in their 'native language', but if you use pt.wikipedia.org with English interface, you would get the entire list in "English" [21:09:15] 03(mod) Change logo and settings for stewardwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37700 +comment (10Brion Vibber) [21:09:56] SPQRobin: you mean we have no table with 'sentence case' conventions per interface language? [21:10:14] thedj: indeed (afaik) [21:10:19] or as a param on the language name itself. [21:10:50] * thedj proposes we add these comments to the bugzilla ticket btw :D [21:11:11] is there a bug about this? [21:11:36] we can add it to 36819 for now can we not ? [21:12:01] we can open a seperate ticket if we figure it out exactly. [21:12:43] I would like to keep the sidebar links and that bug separated, they're separate issues [21:13:04] but, I think we can just do ucfirst() to keep old behaviour [21:13:43] !b 36819 [21:13:43] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36819 [21:14:45] 03(NEW) Interlanguage list should be rendered according to context language (user interface language) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37703 normal; MediaWiki: Internationalization; (krinklemail) [21:15:49] 03(mod) Make language names first letter lowercase where usual - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36819 +comment (10Dereckson) [21:16:00] 03(NEW) Make language names cross-localizable in all languages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37704 enhancement; MediaWiki: Internationalization; (krinklemail) [21:16:01] 03(mod) Interlanguage list should be rendered according to context language (user interface language) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37703 (10Krinkle) [21:16:28] New review: Amire80; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/TranslationNotifications] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/5155 [21:16:48] 03(mod) Interlanguage list should be rendered according to context language (user interface language) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37703 normal->15enhancement; -code-update-regression (10Krinkle) [21:17:58] 03(NEW) [Regression] Rendere interlanguage links in sidebar ucfirst per context language rules - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37705 normal; MediaWiki: Internationalization; (krinklemail) [21:17:59] 03(mod) Make language names first letter lowercase where usual - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36819 (10Krinkle) [21:17:59] sumanah, okay, it's done [21:18:10] 03(mod) [Regression] Render interlanguage links in sidebar ucfirst per context language rules - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37705 summary (10Krinkle) [21:19:02] 03(mod) Interlanguage list should be rendered according to context language (user interface language) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37703 +comment (10Krinkle) [21:19:46] Krenair: I wish I could buy you a cold beverage of thanks [21:20:04] 03(mod) Make language names first letter lowercase where usual - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36819 +comment (10Dereckson) [21:20:07] New review: saper; "(reposting my email response, sorry for duplicate - I didn't have gerrit access at the time)" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/5174 [21:20:20] :D [21:20:58] New review: Krinkle; "Please add release-notes next time. When in doubt, always add release notes." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7306 [21:21:02] Bugzilla should be rewritten in PHP... [21:21:20] ashley: go forth and archive greatness [21:21:27] 03(mod) Rename MediaWiki-CVS list to MediaWiki-commits - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/19958 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [21:21:33] ah right, that is what barnstars & WikiLove are for! [21:21:34] how do i fix http://www.mwusers.com/forums/showthread.php?18135-Page-content-disappears ? [21:22:14] p858snake|l: I would, but I can't read brainfuck, err, perl :D heck, I can't even install BZ, it appears... [21:22:33] I'm creating a quick patch set for ucfirst now [21:22:36] 03(mod) Several history entries for the same content - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37225 +comment (10Richard Guk) [21:22:38] ashley: there is a premade vm if you just want to mess around with it [21:23:13] Krinkle: I thought based on the last email thread, that only the release manager was doing the release notes now, because it plays up in git or something [21:23:24] nah, I need to set up a production environment (and to make things a bit more...exciting, not on a *NIX-based OS) [21:23:47] p858snake|l: I have seen no such email, and if that's true it should be documented in the code conventions. [21:24:04] p858snake|l: so he goes through any and all commits? [21:24:18] and then adds them to the file in git? [21:26:22] 03(mod) Interlanguage list should be rendered according to context language (user interface language) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37703 +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [21:27:01] OK, I'm sure this isn't how it's supposed to work, but I'll ask anyway [21:27:08] ok not the release manager, but "[Wikitech-l] Git/gerrit and RELEASE-NOTES-1.20 merge conflicts" by brion_ did seem to cover most of it [21:27:22] I want to completely abandon a branch in Gerrit, and replace it with another branch [21:27:31] http://bit.ly/wikitechMonth [21:27:35] 03(mod) Interlanguage list should be rendered according to context language (user interface language) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37703 +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [21:27:51] Because master never worked, I've done development in another branch, and now I want to fix it [21:28:06] 03(mod) Nuke keeps previously deleted images as to-be-deleted when run repeatedly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30584 +comment (10Gregor Hagedorn) [21:28:14] what is the name of the "login required" special page that is displayed when a client attempts to access a page that requires the user be logged in? [21:28:45] i'm having trouble getting $wgGroupPermissions set properly for a wiki that requires login for all access. [21:29:00] New patchset: Matthias Mullie; "process feedback on 11728" [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11947 [21:29:02] describe your $wgGroupPermissions problem [21:29:12] not logged in users see a "permissions errors" page instead of a "login required" page. [21:29:31] bed time [21:29:34] night hashar [21:29:51] sumanah: thanks for the openhatch stuff :) Looks promising! [21:30:02] hashar: yes! [21:30:06] what i happened to find is that if i add $wgGroupPermissions['user']['read'] = true, then anonymous [not logged in] users can see the "login required" page - but that's confusing to me. something doesn't seem right. [21:30:12] sumanah: can't wait to get some new tutorials there and some fresh code to review submitted by newbies :-]] [21:30:14] hashar: I am so glad that OpenHatch was available [21:30:15] lunaphyte_: I think it's done with OuputPage::showErrorPage [21:30:23] New patchset: Matthias Mullie; "Bug 36502 - Article Feedback - Slide 'View feedback' link on the Talk page closer to title" [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11948 [21:30:32] paulproteus: hashar is excited about having you onboard :-) [21:30:33] sumanah: I am pretty sure your lobbying paid of :-] [21:30:39] 03(mod) Interlanguage list should be rendered according to context language (user interface language) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37703 +comment (10Krinkle) [21:30:53] paulproteus: Antoine (hashar) is a senior developer whom WMF hired from the volunteer community [21:31:05] New patchset: SPQRobin; "Bug 37705 - ucfirst for sidebar interlanguage links" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11949 [21:31:06] Hi hashar!! (-: [21:31:06] I would not qualify myself as senior though :-] [21:31:12] hello paulproteus :) [21:31:26] New review: Matthias Mullie; "To be merged on July 3" [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master); V: 0 C: -2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11948 [21:31:29] thanks for the openHatch non profit [21:31:35] you are making the internet a better place :-] [21:31:39] hashar: well, I can ask you to review a bunch of newbies' code but I don't want to spam you with review requests [21:31:41] marktraceur: thanks. i've got to run, but i'll make a note and see what clues i can find tomorrow. [21:31:42] p858snake|l: When was that thread? [21:31:49] Can't find it in June or May [21:31:56] * sumanah looks at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/status:open+project:^mediawiki.*,n,z [21:32:05] sumanah: yeah I am a bit overwhelmed. I tend to pick the code myself, easier to handle the load this way ;-] [21:32:10] lunaphyte_: right, best of luck [21:32:14] nod [21:32:15] found it in April [21:32:15] http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2012-April/date.html [21:32:36] sumanah: here is my dashboard https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/dashboard/24 :-D [21:32:50] awww hashar !! (: [21:33:12] New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11949 [21:34:01] well now I am heading bed. Hopefully will talk to paulproteus another day ;-] [21:34:04] night [21:34:07] (-: Night! [21:34:07] * hashar waves at sumanah  [21:34:35] 03(mod) Render interlanguage links in sidebar ucfirst per context language rules - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37705 -code-update-regression ; summary; +comment (10Robin Pepermans (SPQRobin)) [21:36:34] Can I just force-push to gerrit? It's ugly, but this project hasn't used master for some time, it might be ultimately beneficial and simpler [21:38:42] 03(mod) Article Feedback - Slide 'View feedback' link on the Talk page closer to title - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36502 +comment (10Matthias Mullie) [21:42:18] marktraceur: I think you can just file that request on the Gerrit project ownership page & I'll route it to Chad or whoever [21:42:56] 03(NEW) Create "integration" project - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37706 normal; Wikimedia Labs: General; (krinklemail) [21:45:33] 03(mod) Cloned tables for unitests do not have references and constraints - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37702 +comment (10Marcin Cieślak) [21:45:34] 03(mod) Change logo and settings for stewardwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37700 +comment (10Platonides) [21:46:02] Hm, maybe I can fix this still [21:46:06] (ha, maybe) [21:46:15] Yeah, no [21:46:21] 03(mod) Article Feedback - CTA 4: Join the community - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36771 +comment (10Matthias Mullie) [21:46:45] 03(mod) Feedback Form simplification - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37630 +comment (10Matthias Mullie) [21:48:25] 03(mod) Make language names cross-localizable in all languages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37704 +comment (10Siebrand) [21:50:02] sumanah: Filed request [21:50:08] And thanks [21:50:10] 03(mod) Render interlanguage links in sidebar ucfirst per context language rules - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37705 +comment (10Siebrand) [21:50:14] sure [21:52:33] marktraceur: ok, sorry for the runaround, but now that I see the actual content of https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Gerrit_project_ownership#Move_branch_svg-chart_to_be_new_master.2C_get_rid_of_old_master_.28orgcharts.29 I think https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Conversion/Extensions_queue might be a better place to move that? [21:53:07] 03(mod) Render interlanguage links in sidebar ucfirst per context language rules - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37705 +comment (10Siebrand) [21:53:23] Well, it's already in git, it's just....the repo never worked very well, due to the strange original master branch [21:53:36] And, I suspect, my initial inability to work with Gerrit [21:54:09] :-) many of us are in that boat [21:54:13] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "Fixed Article type-hint in redirect hook." [mediawiki/extensions/FlaggedRevs] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11954 [21:54:40] In any case, I don't think it should be terribly difficult. The only reason I can't deal with this myself is that force-push is disabled [21:54:50] If I could do that, problem would be solved in a few minutes [21:55:17] marktraceur: force-push? you need to move some refs? [21:55:22] New review: Aaron Schulz; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/FlaggedRevs] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11954 [21:55:24] Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/extensions/FlaggedRevs] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11954 [21:55:49] saper: I have a new branch that's not easily-mergeable with master (for whatever reason) and I'd like to just replace it [21:57:28] New review: Mdale; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11600 [21:58:08] New review: Siebrand; "Suggesting to abandon this. Introducing incorrect antonyms for the, debatable, "visually pleasing" a..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11949 [21:58:22] marktraceur: even better, I get "error: Trying to write ref HEAD with nonexistant object cb7d72193c09f357a0a84cf7b3568dbb7ea0549a [21:58:25] on clone :) [21:58:42] New review: Siebrand; "Long live spelling correction on iPad: that is autonym" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11949 [22:00:57] Guh [22:01:12] Ugh, spam on mediawiki-api -.- [22:01:22] saper: I think I ran into similar problems, though maybe not so dire [22:01:58] I had to do git clone -b svg-chart [22:02:05] Which is really just ridiculous [22:03:00] I cloned gitorious first [22:03:03] and just added remote [22:04:56] One way of doing things, sure [22:05:21] that commit is still unknown but it works :) [22:05:33] Man, that's bad [22:05:45] I mean, it works, good, but my git repo is apparently a huge mess [22:05:46] (unknown to git show) [22:06:50] My suspicion is that the above commit is from the gerrit master [22:06:54] New patchset: Dereckson; "(bug 17791) ProofreadPage broken for GIF images." [mediawiki/extensions/ProofreadPage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/6078 [22:07:09] Yeah, it is [22:07:47] New review: Dereckson; "I rebased the changeset against master." [mediawiki/extensions/ProofreadPage] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/6078 [22:08:13] Geez, maybe the extensions queue *is* the place for this--just dump the old repo, make a new one [22:08:22] yeah [22:08:40] marktraceur: not found anywhere [22:09:35] New patchset: Daniel Werner; "Did some cleanup on Aliases + implemented that the enter button will trigger save/cancel" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11955 [22:09:53] New patchset: Dereckson; "(bug 17791) ProofreadPage broken for GIF images." [mediawiki/extensions/ProofreadPage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/6078 [22:11:47] saper: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?p=wikimedia/orgchart.git;a=commit;h=cb7d72193c09f357a0a84cf7b3568dbb7ea0549a [22:11:51] New patchset: Dereckson; "(bug 17791) ProofreadPage broken for GIF images." [mediawiki/extensions/ProofreadPage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/6078 [22:12:57] I've a problem with this change. I wanted to rebase it and successfully rebased it in Patch Set 3 [22:13:02] New patchset: Matthias Mullie; "bug 36773 - My Contributions" [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11283 [22:13:30] The patchset 2 were for I don't know the reason empty [22:14:03] when I asked a diff to compare patchset 2 and 3 I see a file added .gitignore and wanted to discard it [22:14:24] bye for the day [22:14:36] it's when I understood the patchset 2 were empty [22:14:53] Hello. Is replacing plus signs (+) by %252B in page titles a reliable solution? (%2B doesn't work on my wiki because of Apache .htaccess rewrite rules) [22:14:55] so my question is: what's the best way to cancel patchset 4 and 5 and come back to patchset 3 ? [22:15:26] Max252B: on Wikipedia, we manage to use + [22:16:18] New review: Dereckson; "Correct patchset is the Patch Set 3." [mediawiki/extensions/ProofreadPage] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/6078 [22:16:33] + doesn't work either on my wiki, still becuse of Apache rewrite rules, I'm just wondering if %252B is ok (like will people find the Example%252B page if they type " Example+ " in the search bar) [22:17:43] Max252B: you could maybe consider to use path_info instead of the RewriteModule? [22:18:24] Interesting: on nginx, it rewrites my Test++ in Test%2B%2B [22:20:26] Max252B: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/459667/how-to-encode-special-characters-using-mod-rewrite-apache [22:20:26] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "Update FlaggedRevs to master (5bd8267c02ecd8caf9f52568be9f59fc6e327038)" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf5) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11956 [22:20:57] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Added support for array style definitions with name as key, handle criteria and manipulations in array definitions and some cleanup" [mediawiki/extensions/Validator] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11957 [22:22:32] New patchset: GWicke; "Switch diff algo back to diffWords by default" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11958 [22:22:34] New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf5); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11956 [22:22:37] New review: Aaron Schulz; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf5); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11956 [22:22:40] Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf5) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11956 [22:22:46] New review: GWicke; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11958 [22:22:50] Change merged: GWicke; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11958 [22:26:59] RewriteRule ^wiki/(.*)$ /w/index.php?title=$1 [PT,L,QSA] [22:27:01] ^ is my current rule. So basically the workaround is to use [B] instead of [PT,L,QSA] ? [22:27:51] Max252B: I'm under the understanding you would have an easier config with Alias than RewriteRule for this specific setup [22:28:15] Sadly I only have access to .htaccess [22:28:35] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL/wiki/Page_title <-- this way [22:28:40] oh [22:30:32] New patchset: Siebrand; "Fix syntax error in SpecialLanguageStats.php." [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11959 [22:30:40] 03(mod) Institution pages cannot be viewed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37697 +comment (10Aaron Schulz) [22:31:03] Max252B: according http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/mod_rewrite.html#rewriteflags [B] is to escape chars before rewriting [22:31:04] New review: Siebrand; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11959 [22:31:06] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11959 [22:31:20] Max252B: so the correct rule would be RewriteRule ^wiki/(.*)$ /w/index.php?title=$1 [PT,L,QSA,B] [22:32:07] (I note nginx escapes automatically without having to configure anything) [22:33:28] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "keep track of defaulting in b/c layer" [mediawiki/extensions/Validator] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11960 [22:35:05] Thanks a ton Dereckson, adding [B] solved the problem. I hope everything will work properly with this method (searches etc.) [22:35:19] I'm wondering why B isn't in any of the .htaccess examples on http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL/Apache [22:36:22] You're welcome. The main guy to thank is the sysadmin having replied to the similar question on stackoverflow note. [22:36:43] maybe because C++ isn't a page everybody creates [22:37:03] you can edit the page to add a not about the opportunity to add [B] [22:40:06] 03(mod) Make language names cross-localizable in all languages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37704 +comment (10Krinkle) [22:40:23] Yeah I Googled my problem some hours ago, I could find only very few results… and the [B] solution wasn't anywhere [22:40:54] I'm not sure if [B] doesn't add other problems, more experienced guys should test it before adding it to the page [22:49:08] 03(mod) Feedback Form simplification - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37630 +comment (10Fabrice Florin) [22:53:51] New patchset: Jalexander; "double =" [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaShopLink] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11961 [22:56:04] how can i reference an image on Common.CCS? [22:56:05] .highlights_headline_2 {background-image:url('/images/highlights_turistic_attractions.jpg');background-position:center;} [22:56:13] instead of uploading to FTP [22:57:07] Edgard_WikiRio, that would work [22:58:09] i see my pics in ohter directories like images/20, images/30 [22:58:50] so it doesnt find the images [23:03:02] so it doesnt work [23:04:55] Edgard_WikiRio, on which folder is your wiki? [23:05:14] \public_html\ [23:06:16] i dont undestand the subdirectories inside the image folder [23:07:25] New patchset: Jalexander; "Creating extension for geolocated shop link with initial draft" [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaShopLink] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11012 [23:08:11] Edgard_WikiRio: You mean how it's structured? The numbers and letters? [23:10:15] Change abandoned: Jalexander; "superseded by first commit" [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaShopLink] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11961 [23:10:34] Change abandoned: Jalexander; "superseded by first commit" [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaShopLink] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11896 [23:10:38] brooke, i'm sure there is a reason. but i'm trying to reference a image on Common.css and it's not possible, I think... [23:10:53] Change abandoned: Jalexander; "superseded by first commit" [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaShopLink] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11262 [23:11:21] Edgard_WikiRio, what's the url for the image you want to include? [23:12:44] I have no idea, i uploaded using mediawiki. So many folders in there [23:13:05] I have hundreds of images. [23:13:22] I dont know if you understand what I'm saying [23:14:16] Refering to the image and directory is easy, this is not a problem. I can just upload the image to the root of images folder [23:15:27] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Validator] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11957 [23:15:31] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Validator] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11960 [23:15:33] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Validator] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11957 [23:15:37] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Validator] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11960 [23:22:19] Edgard_WikiRio: What? [23:22:25] You're trying to do what? [23:22:38] 03(mod) Maemo Browser fails to redirect to mobile site - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37526 +comment (10Jon) [23:23:31] Edgard_WikiRio, and what would be the full url? [23:24:11] .highlights_headline_2 {background-image:url('/images/highlights_turistic_attractions.jpg');background-position:center;} [23:24:29] i have to upload the image using ftp to image root folder [23:25:07] because when i upload using mediawiki, it uses a random folder inside images folder. so its impossible to refer it correctly on css [23:26:05] hi any suggestions on how I can fix the toc issue? [23:26:05] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Dispute_over_Turkish_representation_at_Turkic_Wikimedia_Conference_2012 [23:26:17] I want text to be side by side but sections to match the higher headers [23:26:23] or have two tocs [23:27:11] New patchset: Krinkle; "SkinTemplate: Minor clean up" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11964 [23:27:22] ToAruShiroiNeko, don't use tables like that [23:27:31] use eg. one row with two columns [23:29:18] New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11964 [23:35:24] 03(mod) Article Feedback - Increase Test Sample to 10% of English Wikipedia (using article ID code) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37616 +comment (10Fabrice Florin) [23:40:12] 03(mod) Maemo Browser fails to redirect to mobile site - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37526 +comment (10Jon) [23:40:30] i would forget TOC and make a index on my own [23:40:49] because i dont think you can do that with your TOC. fix that i mean [23:40:50] Good night. [23:45:38] New patchset: Anomie; "Allow manipulation of wl_notificationtimestamp via the API" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11965 [23:47:39] New review: jenkins-bot; "Build Successful " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11965 [23:50:16] hello? [23:50:35] !help [23:50:35] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:$1 [23:51:13] anyone/ [23:51:29] !ask [23:51:29] Hi, how can we help you? Just ask your question. [23:53:07] !help please [23:53:07] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:please [23:53:23] !ask how do you change a groups name [23:53:23] Hi, how can we help you? Just ask your question. [23:55:36] Giorgios: you mean like changing the name "administrators"? I think it's best to create a new group, otherwise you have to edit a lot of interface messages [23:55:57] i need the admin group to disappear then [23:58:25] you could do in LocalSettings.php: $wgGroupPermissions['newgroupname'] = $wgGroupPermissions['sysop']; [23:58:25] unset( $wgGroupPermissions['sysop'] ); [23:59:03] let me see robin [23:59:12] Giorgios: that gives "newgroupname" all administrator rights and removes the administrator group [23:59:24] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Migrated mapping service parameter to use new Validator stuff" [mediawiki/extensions/Maps] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11966 [23:59:28] lets see if it works :D