[00:11:47] Brooke: Sorry, which Monobook thing? [00:12:01] (Belatedly.) [00:12:31] New patchset: Matthias Mullie; "Bug 37707 - Scale AFT tables to support 10% deploy" [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12385 [00:12:34] James_F|Busy: The "make sure you're using Vector" thing in the editnotice [00:12:42] Oh, yeah. :-) [00:13:22] Did you read my response to that? [00:21:11] New patchset: Kaldari; "Some CSS tweaking" [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12707 [00:23:23] New patchset: Kaldari; "Adding missing messages to module definition" [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12708 [00:23:34] New patchset: Umherirrender; "adjust method comment for Ia19f1011" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12709 [00:23:43] New patchset: Reedy; "Remove old updater code" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12710 [00:23:48] 03(ASSIGNED) VisualEditor: Unable to edit an old revision - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37821 normal->15enhancement; summary (10James Forrester) [00:24:24] New review: Kaldari; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12708 [00:24:26] Change merged: Kaldari; [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12708 [00:24:59] New patchset: Reedy; "Remove old updater code" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12710 [00:26:18] 03(ASSIGNED) VisualEditor: Handle edit conflicts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37828 04CRIT->15enhancement; summary (10James Forrester) [00:34:00] 03(ASSIGNED) Visual Editor: Shift-cursor selection downwards switches to upwards selection once you use Up or Right arrow - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37833 summary (10James Forrester) [00:34:23] 03(ASSIGNED) VisualEditor: Shift-Page {Up,Down} selection only works upwards - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37834 summary (10James Forrester) [00:35:35] 03(mod) VisualEditor: A link can span whitespace but won't be displayed so cannot be edited or noticed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37835 summary (10James Forrester) [00:41:54] New patchset: SPQRobin; "Add a list of all ISO 639 languages to MediaWiki" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11829 [00:45:55] New review: SPQRobin; "So I changed the maintenance script to use the maintenance class, but I also did a more important up..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11829 [00:48:02] 03(ASSIGNED) VisualEditor: When "Error saving data to server: Unsuccessful request: error." the spinner for saving doesn't go away - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37837 summary (10James Forrester) [00:50:45] 03(mod) A concept cannot be created (1.8alpha) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37780 summary; +comment (10[[kgh]]) [00:51:36] New patchset: Matthias Mullie; "Bug 37847 - Add profiling to AFTv5 functionality" [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12711 [00:52:00] New patchset: Kaldari; "Some CSS tweaking" [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12707 [00:53:34] 03(mod) Add profiling to AFTv5 functionality - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37847 +comment (10Matthias Mullie) [00:54:26] 03(ASSIGNED) VisualEditor: Improperly escapes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37838 summary; +comment (10James Forrester) [00:55:35] 03(ASSIGNED) VisualEditor: A link can span whitespace but won't be displayed so cannot be edited or noticed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37835 (10James Forrester) [00:56:44] 03(ASSIGNED) VisualEditor: Unable to input tildes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37841 summary; +comment (10James Forrester) [00:57:38] 03(NEW) Special:Contributions no longer shows at the top that the user you're looking at is blocked - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37853 normal; MediaWiki: Logging; (Platonides) [00:58:48] 03(ASSIGNED) VisualEditor: Throws error when trying to edit blank (but extant) page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37843 summary (10James Forrester) [00:59:28] 03(ASSIGNED) VisualEditor: Protection and AbuseFilter do not work for VisualEditor edits; create a 'usevisualeditor' permission - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37844 summary (10James Forrester) [01:00:32] 03(ASSIGNED) VisualEditor interface has no "cancel" button - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37845 +comment (10James Forrester) [01:01:36] 03(ASSIGNED) Visual Editor: Overlapping text annotations fails - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37846 summary (10James Forrester) [01:02:52] 03(mod) printout statement #MEDIAWIKI not working as expected (1.7.1) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34173 +comment (10[[kgh]]) [01:03:18] 03(ASSIGNED) VisualEditor: All icons need hi-resolution version (HiDPI, Retina display) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37849 summary (10James Forrester) [01:03:19] 03(mod) High-density display issues (tracking) xhdpi hdpi Retina high-resolution HiDPI - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32101 (10James Forrester) [01:04:03] 03(ASSIGNED) VisualEditor: Mouse selection very unreliable in Internet Explorer 10 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37850 summary (10James Forrester) [01:04:21] Why does VisualEditor have its own product? [01:04:21] 03(ASSIGNED) JS error on VIsualEditor load in IE 10 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37851 (10James Forrester) [01:04:27] It's an extension... [01:04:44] that's what I've been wondering too...? [01:07:08] It's in scrollback. [01:07:10] Brion + James F. [01:07:26] The Bugzilla organization is kind of maddening. [01:07:30] I shouldn't think abotu it too much. [01:07:32] about [01:09:12] 03(ASSIGNED) VisualEditor: Nested lists (tracking bug) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37854 summary (10James Forrester) [01:09:13] 03(mod) Tracking bug (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/2007 (10James Forrester) [01:09:14] 03(mod) Keys for increasing reducing indentation of lists (TAB, SHIFT+TAB) and finishing lists - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33142 (10James Forrester) [01:09:14] 03(mod) Wrong rendering of levels of lists - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33143 (10James Forrester) [01:09:39] New patchset: Matthias Mullie; "Bug 37847 - Add profiling to AFTv5 functionality" [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12711 [01:09:48] 03(mod) Scale AFT tables to support 10% deploy - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37707 +comment (10Matthias Mullie) [01:11:17] 03(mod) Syntax error in SPARQL INSERT/DELETE DATA requests when default graph not set (1.7.1) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37575 +patch; summary (10[[kgh]]) [01:13:35] 03(mod) [SMW] 1.8; SMW_QP_List.php row results are not fully escaped which allows html tags - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37723 (10[[kgh]]) [01:15:46] New review: SPQRobin; "This will have the consequence that when using a Turkic language, language names starting with "i" s..." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11949 [01:19:02] 03(mod) Semantic Search produces invalid links for ModSecurity (the WAF) (1.7.1) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35203 summary; +comment (10[[kgh]]) [01:19:13] New patchset: Matthias Mullie; "move threshold for countdown to show up from 200 to 500 chars to go" [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12712 [01:19:29] lol - ppl crack me up - I'll never understand ppl that post on wiki just to say "we shouldn't be talking about this" - if you don't want to talk about it..don't click edit :) [01:20:20] 03(mod) Semantic Search produces invalid links for ModSecurity (the WAF) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35203 summary (10[[kgh]]) [01:21:44] Saying to not talk about something isn't the same as talking about something. [01:24:24] 03(mod) Highlighted trailing whitespace should not have styles applied using VisualEditor interface - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33108 +comment (10James Forrester) [01:25:42] 04(REOPENED) Two continuous Shift-enter creates

that is not recognized by Visual Editor - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33106 +comment (10James Forrester) [01:26:35] 03(ASSIGNED) Two continuous Shift-enter creates

that is not recognized by Visual Editor - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33106 (10James Forrester) [01:27:28] 14(DUP) Two continuous Shift-enter creates

that is not recognized by Visual Editor - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33106 +comment (10James Forrester) [01:27:28] Thehelpfulone: you get an answer back from FN on max number of group contacts? [01:27:29] 03(mod) Shift-enter in list items doesn't work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33093 +comment (10James Forrester) [01:31:13] 03(mod) VisualEditor mis-positions caret in RTL text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33079 +comment (10James Forrester) [01:34:01] 03(mod) Escape wikitext tags written by hand in VisualEditor interface - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33052 +comment (10James Forrester) [01:34:04] 03(mod) Wrong rendering of levels of lists - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33143 +comment (10James Forrester) [01:34:05] 03(mod) Keys for increasing reducing indentation of lists (TAB, SHIFT+TAB) and finishing lists - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33142 +comment (10James Forrester) [01:34:07] 03(mod) Linking on a part of a word triggers linktrail - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33091 +comment (10James Forrester) [01:34:08] 03(mod) Undo of indentation is not properly displayed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33225 +comment (10James Forrester) [01:34:08] 03(mod) Blank heading generates invalid wikitext using VisualEditor interface - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33089 +comment (10James Forrester) [01:34:43] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Lost text after deleting to/from EOF - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37813 (10James Forrester) [01:36:16] 03(mod) VisualEditor does not allow to type with (at least some) input methods - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33076 +comment (10James Forrester) [01:36:17] 03(mod) Content in an LTR wiki is displayed RTL in VisualEditor if the interface language is RTL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33175 +comment (10James Forrester) [01:36:19] 03(mod) VisualEditor multilingual input / i18n issues (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33077 +comment (10James Forrester) [01:36:21] 03(mod) Shift-Delete keyboard "cut" shortcut doesn't work using VisualEditor interface - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33080 +comment (10James Forrester) [01:36:21] 03(mod) Delete at end of document causes JS error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37848 +comment (10James Forrester) [01:36:23] 03(mod) VisualEditor mis-positions caret in RTL text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33079 +comment (10James Forrester) [01:36:24] 03(mod) Move selection on Ctrl+Shift-{Home,End} - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33058 +comment (10James Forrester) [01:36:24] 03(mod) Preserve rich text formatting when pasting into VisualEditor - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33105 +comment (10James Forrester) [01:36:25] 03(mod) Ctrl+Home / Ctrl+End don't navigate the cursor to the beginning/end of the document - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34095 +comment (10James Forrester) [01:36:26] 03(mod) VisualEditor right-to-left support tracking bug - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33126 +comment (10James Forrester) [01:36:39] 03(mod) Feedback Form simplification - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37630 +comment (10Matthias Mullie) [01:37:37] 03(mod) Link creation should not include trailing spaces, and should provide a suggestion based on selected text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33053 +comment (10James Forrester) [01:37:37] 03(mod) Editing a part of text of a link doesn't work (or this shouldn't be allowed) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33088 +comment (10James Forrester) [01:37:38] 03(mod) Link button and it's shortcut should trigger a dialog also when no text is selected - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33141 +comment (10James Forrester) [01:37:38] 03(mod) VisualEditor toolbar doesn't follow viewport in Android browser - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33068 +comment (10James Forrester) [01:38:04] 03(mod) Invalid titles for link target are not detected - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33094 +comment (10James Forrester) [01:38:41] 03(mod) Shortcut Key for Font Size - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33512 +comment (10James Forrester) [01:38:41] 03(mod) Feature request: VisualEditor link-activating/following - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33239 +comment (10James Forrester) [01:38:42] 03(mod) Unable to create [[a]]-style link using VisualEditor extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33104 +comment (10James Forrester) [01:38:45] 03(mod) Highlighted trailing whitespace should not have styles applied using VisualEditor interface - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33108 +comment (10James Forrester) [01:38:46] 03(mod) Clicking bold, italic, etc. in VisualEditor interface should set state for newly entered text when no selection - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33140 +comment (10James Forrester) [01:38:49] New patchset: Matthias Mullie; "Bug 37707 - Scale AFT tables to support 10% deploy" [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12385 [01:40:05] Hello, I'm trying to update mediawiki using git, but I'm getting an error, "Your local changes to the following files would be overwritten by merge:" [01:41:24] It's asking "Please, commit your changes or stash them before you can merge." [01:44:46] 03(mod) mw.Uri.clone() doesn't make a deep copy - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37708 +comment (10Krinkle) [01:46:39] techman224: So, do that :) [01:47:05] if you don't want to save the changes you made, use "git reset --hard HEAD" [01:47:19] check "git status" to see what files it is about [01:53:47] 03(mod) Semantic Search produces invalid links for ModSecurity (the WAF) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35203 +comment (10Hans Meiser) [01:54:07] Thanks Krinkle, resetting helped :) [02:02:32] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Protection and AbuseFilter do not work for VisualEditor edits; create a 'usevisualeditor' permission - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37844 +comment (10Brion Vibber) [02:04:08] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Plaintext three-tildes ~~~ are expanded to signature unexpectedly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37841 summary; +comment (10Brion Vibber) [02:05:49] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Improperly escapes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37838 +comment (10Brion Vibber) [02:12:44] jorm: you around? [02:17:13] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Protection and AbuseFilter do not work for VisualEditor edits; create a 'usevisualeditor' permission - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37844 +comment (10Jasper Deng) [02:18:46] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Does not work in Opera - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36000 +comment (10Brion Vibber) [02:19:58] 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Nice error messages for no-JS/no-Vector users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37855 normal; VisualEditor: Initialisation and integration; (jforrester) [02:20:35] 03(ASSIGNED) VisualEditor: Nice error messages for no-JS/no-Vector users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37855 normal->15enhancement (10James Forrester) [02:22:58] New patchset: Krinkle; "jquery.byteLimit: Partial rewrite to fix logic errors" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12713 [02:23:34] 03(FIXED) JavaScript error in jQuery 1.7.2 in FireFox on Special:MovePage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36310 +comment (10Krinkle) [02:28:46] 03(NEW) VisualEditor on Opera 12: selecting text with mouse 'backwards' fails - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37856 normal; VisualEditor: General; (brion) [02:28:53] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Does not work in Opera - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36000 (10Brion Vibber) [02:28:54] 03(mod) Shift enter in SimpleSearch opens results in original window AND tab - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/23866 +comment (10badon) [02:29:10] 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Unexpected behaviour of list editing - what level should the buttons operate, and is it consistent? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37857 normal; VisualEditor: ContentEditable; (jforrester) [02:29:19] 03(ASSIGNED) VisualEditor: Unexpected behaviour of list editing - what level should the buttons operate, and is it consistent? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37857 (10James Forrester) [02:30:53] 03(NEW) VisualEditor on Opera 12: clicking selection arrow shows, then hides popup bar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37858 normal; VisualEditor: General; (brion) [02:30:53] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Does not work in Opera - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36000 (10Brion Vibber) [02:32:48] 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Add inspector accessor icon after each link for easier editing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37859 enhancement; VisualEditor: User Interface; (jforrester) [02:32:59] 03(ASSIGNED) VisualEditor: Add inspector accessor icon after each link for easier editing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37859 (10James Forrester) [02:35:23] 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Cut-n-paste from one window to another loses formatting - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37860 normal; VisualEditor: General; (brion) [02:42:52] 03(mod) Feature request: VisualEditor link-activating/following - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33239 +comment (10Brion Vibber) [02:47:21] 03(NEW) VisualEditor on Opera 12: editing existing link doesn't work, breaks selection logic - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37861 normal; VisualEditor: General; (brion) [02:47:21] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Does not work in Opera - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36000 (10Brion Vibber) [02:57:56] 03(mod) Unable to create [[a]]-style link using VisualEditor extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33104 +comment (10Brion Vibber) [03:00:54] 03(mod) Several history entries for the same content - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37225 +comment (10Aaron Schulz) [03:03:58] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Protection and AbuseFilter do not work for VisualEditor edits; create a 'usevisualeditor' permission - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37844 +comment (10Brion Vibber) [03:27:14] Change abandoned: Ori.livneh; "(no reason)" [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11850 [03:27:51] Change abandoned: Ori.livneh; "Reworking this into something else." [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11084 [03:28:17] 03(mod) Enable WebFonts on the Burmese Wikipedia (mywiki) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34817 +comment (10Robin Pepermans (SPQRobin)) [03:30:16] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Protection and AbuseFilter do not work for VisualEditor edits; create a 'usevisualeditor' permission - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37844 +comment (10Jasper Deng) [03:35:51] New patchset: Krinkle; "(bug 37708) mw.Uri.clone() should make a deep copy." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12669 [03:37:54] New review: Krinkle; "* Changed test to use an assertion function instead of "ok()". Other wise the (potential error) repo..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12669 [03:43:30] New patchset: Krinkle; "(bug 37708) mw.Uri.clone() should make a deep copy." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12669 [03:52:25] New review: Krinkle; "* Rebased" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12669 [03:52:38] New review: Krinkle; "* Rebased" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12669 [03:52:41] Change merged: Krinkle; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12669 [04:02:31] New patchset: Krinkle; "(follow-up) Fix "file not found" error in mediawiki.language." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12714 [04:06:36] New review: Santhosh; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12714 [05:02:56] 03(mod) VisualEditor mis-positions caret in RTL text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33079 +comment (10Amir E. Aharoni) [05:13:09] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Throws error when trying to edit blank (but extant) page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37843 (10ssastry) [05:15:42] 03(NEW) How does one search for a template field including an URL (e.g. author= in [[Commons:Template:Information]]) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37862 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Lucene Search; (test5555) [05:40:25] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Throws error when trying to edit blank (but extant) page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37843 (10ssastry) [05:53:38] 04(REOPENED) The floatable toolbar should be hidden when the edit area is invisible at all - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33163 +comment (10Liangent) [05:55:20] 03(NEW) Add Siyam Rupali Font for Bishnupriya Manipuri - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37863 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WebFonts; (usingha) [05:56:36] 04(REOPENED) In add link dialog: the tick button is sometimes still gray even there's text in the box - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33191 +comment (10Liangent) [06:00:19] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Message minoredit is not parsed in "save page" dialog box - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37819 +comment (10Liangent) [06:02:56] 04(REOPENED) Two continuous Shift-enter creates

that is not recognized by Visual Editor - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33106 +comment (10Liangent) [06:23:37] New patchset: Nischayn22; "Added more methods to DIHandlers" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (storerewrite) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12715 [06:27:16] New patchset: Umherirrender; "(bug 37249) validate unit test generated xml against export xsd" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/10763 [06:42:55] New review: Umherirrender; "Worked on comments but still have timeouts." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/10763 [07:37:06] 03(mod) PAGESINCATEGORY should differentiate between pages and subcategories - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/14237 +comment (10User:Docu) [07:45:31] 03(mod) Add magic word to specify thumbnail width in category - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/13802 +comment (10User:Docu) [07:50:12] 03(mod) Show images on image description page previews - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/11243 +comment (10User:Docu) [08:02:34] New patchset: Nischayn22; "Added new tests" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12716 [08:03:34] I'm trying to update my wiki from 1.15.1 to 1.19 and am having some trouble doing so using git. Can anyone offer a walkthrough? [08:06:18] New patchset: Liangent; "I18n of display of change tags" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12717 [08:08:50] markmoreland: what's your current situation? [08:10:28] I made a git clone on my server, but I don't think I put it where it needs to be. [08:12:34] it's the "Replace all existing files with the new versions, preserving the directory structure" part I'm having trouble with [08:13:01] cause when I made my clone, it put them somewhere completely different than where the mediawiki files themselves are [08:13:38] markmoreland: move your old mw files to somewhere else, and move the clone to the directory where old mw files reside [08:14:01] how do I move directories using ssh? [08:14:08] mv [08:14:37] what directories or files do I need to make sure I move from within the /mediawiki directory? [08:16:07] markmoreland: I would just move the whole /mediawiki away, then place the cloned directory at /mediawiki [08:18:23] so when I did the clone, it put it all in a new directory (/core/.git/), I did checkout origin/REL1_19 like the manual directed…where are those files? [08:19:36] markmoreland: they're in /core [08:19:51] ok [08:20:20] so: mv /mediawiki /mediawiki_old; mv /core /mediawiki; cp /mediawiki_old/LocalSettings.php /core [08:20:56] and that shouldn't affect the database (images, articles, etc.) [08:22:14] if you're storing images in the default place, then mv /mediawiki_old/images/* /mediawiki/images [08:23:13] can I use update.php to do this for me instead of replacing files manually? [08:24:08] update.php updates database. you still need to run it after moving files [08:26:21] I'm getting a permission denied error [08:26:46] I guess I'll have to wait for the guy who normally handles this to wake up on the other side of the world [08:27:14] thanks for the help though [08:28:10] db permission error or fs one? [08:28:18] 03(NEW)

 with overflow: auto; causes usability problems for long blocks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37864 normal; MediaWiki: User interface; (listenleser)
[08:42:44] 	 I wonder why no OS/browser has tried to create float-in-view scrollbars
[08:46:23] 	 03(mod) Gadgets issues that are resolved in Gadgets 2.0 (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35126  (10Krinkle)
[08:46:23] 	 03(WONTFIX) Weird problem with some characters on [[MediaWiki:Gadgets-definition‎]] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29794  +comment (10Krinkle)
[08:46:43] 	 03(FIXED) Enforce restrictions on internal name of a gadget in the UI - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27512  +comment (10Krinkle)
[08:46:44] 	 03(mod) Gadgets issues that are resolved in Gadgets 2.0 (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35126  (10Krinkle)
[08:47:17] 	 New review: Krinkle; "@Helder: Done" [mediawiki/extensions/Gadgets] (RL2); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7156
[08:50:07] 	 New patchset: Krinkle; "Add an ArticleSave hook that validates and normalizes Gadget definition: pages" [mediawiki/extensions/Gadgets] (RL2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7156
[08:50:57] 	 New patchset: Krinkle; "Add an ArticleSave hook that validates and normalizes Gadget definition: pages" [mediawiki/extensions/Gadgets] (RL2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7156
[08:51:20] 	 New review: Krinkle; "* Fixed trailing whitespace" [mediawiki/extensions/Gadgets] (RL2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7156
[08:51:34] 	 New review: Krinkle; "* Rebased" [mediawiki/extensions/Gadgets] (RL2); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7156
[08:52:17] 	 New review: Peachey88; "Gah, Changing the fundermental output of how pre should output really should get wider discussion (I..." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12564
[08:54:07] 	 New review: Krinkle; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Gadgets] (RL2); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7156
[08:54:23] 	 New review: Krinkle; "... and verified." [mediawiki/extensions/Gadgets] (RL2); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7156
[08:54:25] 	 Change merged: Krinkle; [mediawiki/extensions/Gadgets] (RL2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7156
[08:56:34] 	 New patchset: Krinkle; "Back out unrevied commit 17d23282dd6d8b1bf6b1b80f97cf02265cbec59d" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12718
[08:56:48] 	 New review: Krinkle; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12718
[08:57:44] 	 Krinkle: around?
[08:57:51] 	 Yes
[08:58:51] 	 bug 37864 will be dupe to something i already reported somewhere
[08:58:59] 	 Krinkle: see http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Gadgets-definition : we're (ab)using the parser to add some links for admins convenience 
[08:59:05] 	 will they be stripped by https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/7156/ ?
[09:01:18] 	 New patchset: Krinkle; "Back out unreviewed commit 17d23282dd6d8b1bf6b1b80f97cf02265cbec59d" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12719
[09:01:50] 	 liangent: change 7156 is not related. that's to the 2.0 branch
[09:02:08] 	 liangent Gadgets 2.0 is a complete rewrite (backwards compatible though)
[09:02:48] 	 Krinkle: speaking about g2 - is there any place where ppl can put suggestions?
[09:02:49] 	 the Gadgets-definition page no longer exists
[09:02:50] 	 Special:Gadgets is used instead with Gadget_defintion:.json pages 
[09:03:17] 	 Danny_B|backup: There is a talk page for the specification, but I can tell you know that nothing will be added unless it is very critical bug fix.
[09:03:36] 	 There is enough already. The goal is to 1) introduce a certain feature set, 2) be completely backwards compatible
[09:03:39] 	 Krinkle: so it's an interface like Special:AbuseFilter?
[09:03:47] 	 the rest can be put as feature requests in bugzilla
[09:03:53] 	 Danny_B|backup: [[mw:RL/V2SPEC]]
[09:04:04] 	 that specification was made last year, so suggestions now is too late :/
[09:04:08] 	 liangent: No
[09:04:31] 	 liangent: It looks like it, maybe. But it works very different because it doesn't pretend to have a diff/history, it has a real diff/history etc.
[09:04:48] 	 as wiki pages
[09:05:08] 	 with a visual editor on Special:Gadgets, but your contributions will show edits to Gadget_definition:Foo.json
[09:05:27] 	 so [[Special:Magic]] in Extension:Translate?
[09:05:34] 	 I have no idea what that is
[09:06:07] 	 but from what it sounds like, yes, it is very loosely like that. You see an editor and it makes the syntactical edit for you
[09:09:54] 	 well, if the specs has been done according to open bugs, then good, because i'm pretty sure i filed a bug (feature request) about that
[09:10:20] 	 Danny_B|backup: about what? 
[09:10:21] 	 !b 37864
[09:10:21] 	 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37864
[09:11:31] 	 Krinkle: that there should be not only checkboxes, but also radio/select in case you need to choose one of several options otherwise with checking of more of them they would override each other
[09:11:48] 	 what are you talking about?
[09:11:55] 	 checkboxes of what where ?
[09:12:44] 	 New review: Krinkle; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12719
[09:12:47] 	 Change merged: Krinkle; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12719
[09:16:26] 	 New patchset: Krinkle; "(bug 260) Handle 
 overflow automatically with a scroll bar" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12720
[09:17:05] 	 New review: Krinkle; "Re-submitted as Ica40812ae221cdc7926dcbe7f82e1cb1591ea1e2" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12564
[09:17:56] 	 Danny_B|backup: What checkboxes where are you talking about?
[09:23:47] 	 Krinkle: special:preferences#gadgets
[09:24:51] 	 Danny_B|backup: I still don't get it
[09:25:10] 	 Danny_B|backup: A gadget is either enabled or disabled. How are radio/select fields related?
[09:25:12] 	 Krinkle: in prefs, you can set gadget by checking a checkbox, right?
[09:25:18] 	 Yup
[09:25:45] 	 03(mod) Escape wikitext tags written by hand in VisualEditor interface - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33052  +comment (10Liangent)
[09:26:44] 	 now if you have two gadgets doing something on the same part of dom, but differently, you need to check only one of them otherwise they would override each other, so you need to *choose* only one of those
[09:27:12] 	 That could be a new feature
[09:28:05] 	 But not in 2.0, this may seem simple, but there is quite a few things dependent on this these are structured.
[09:29:57] 	 and for 2.0 there is a specified number of things we need to implement and stabilize and that's simply packed.
[09:30:08] 	 so you got what i meant? sometimes you simply need to choose from a set of similar gadgets
[09:30:15] 	 Danny_B|backup: I totally understand you
[09:30:28] 	 great, will you note it yourself?
[09:30:29] 	 as a matter of fact, there is likely a better feature in a bug somewhere
[09:30:38] 	 per-gadget preferences
[09:31:02] 	 That's better than exclusive-gadgets, because exclusive gadgets go against the concept of modules
[09:31:19] * Danny_B|backup  wonders how you could do preference on css
[09:31:26] 	 03(mod) [OPS] debianize PHP5 extension 'parsekit' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37076  (10Faidon Liambotis)
[09:31:32] 	 Danny_B|backup: ?
[09:31:34] 	 say column-count: 2 or column-count: 3
[09:31:40] 	 how is that related
[09:31:56] 	 because that's the existing case of when you need to choose
[09:32:13] 	 Yes, sure, but that's connected to preferences.
[09:32:33] 	 ???
[09:32:49] 	 that's choosing of one of the gadgets
[09:32:50] 	 You proposed choosing one gadget or another
[09:32:51] 	 so you'd probably use 2 different css files.
[09:32:52] 	 This is no different.
[09:33:14] 	 so how you can do gadget preference?
[09:33:18] 	 Yes, and with preferences you'd have 1 gadget that behaves differently based on a preference value from the per-gadget preference dialog
[09:34:02] 	 i can understand that js gadget will behave differently, since you can have config vars there
[09:34:13] 	 but i am not sure how it would handle css
[09:34:19] 	 You don't handle it inside the css
[09:34:29] 	 you wouldn't handle the radio button inside css either
[09:34:59] 	 the radio button would load gadget A or B. With preferences there eis only 1 gadget with file A or file B. or class names. there is many different possibilities
[09:36:16] 	 ah, so there will be gadget which will _conditionally_ (depending on gadget pref) load its css/js files, right?
[09:36:41] 	 a gadget pref could be used for anything. loading js/css files is possible too.
[09:36:53] 	 now i got it... i was too much glued to the current system ;-)
[09:36:59] 	 I figured :)
[09:37:15] 	 btw, I answered half your mail yesterday. Polishing up now
[09:40:43] 	 awesome!! \o/ kudos 2u
[09:44:32] 	 Danny_B|backup: Open your window, carrier pigeon (with turbo boost) arrives any minute now.
[09:44:32] 	 http://i.zdnet.com/blogs/carrier_pigeon_large.jpg
[09:45:37] 	 arrived
[09:45:57] * Danny_B|backup  will finish bug filing and is impatiently looking forward to open the package 
[09:46:22] 	 Ok, you can keep the pigeon if you like (do feed it :P ) - or send it back in north west direction xD
[09:47:16] 	 03(NEW) Add ability to bind pages together - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37865 normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (danny.b)
[09:47:55] 	 New review: Peachey88; "This is a resubmission of: Change-Id: I2e0494603af9e3a8351a8c61e9b814f0093e422b" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12720
[09:48:04] * Danny_B|backup  would think about nearly west actually... needs to check the globe... ;-)
[09:49:01] 	 Danny_B|backup: Czech, right ?
[09:49:08] 	 yup
[09:49:32] 	 Krinkle: dutch, right? ;-)
[09:49:38] 	 yep
[09:49:47] 	 morning
[09:49:50] 	 wassup
[09:50:18] 	 Danny_B|backup: Just put into google map, the first two things I read was this:
[09:50:21] 	 * This route has trolls. :O
[09:50:26] 	 * This route crosses through Germany.
[09:50:47] 	 :o))))
[09:51:02] 	 Nikerabbit: god dag (or sth like that)
[09:51:04] 	 https://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=Netherlands&daddr=Czech+Republic&hl=en&ll=51.124213,10.393066&spn=9.687253,20.76416&sll=46.920255,39.550781&sspn=86.631473,166.113281&geocode=FRl7GwMdAr1QACm75IfbwwnGRzGfCr3_znWhsw%3BFZQn-AIdQhnsAClDgt3Xj5QLRzFvWNvTdRxm-A&mra=ls&t=m&z=6
[09:51:58] 	 Danny_B|backup: Mostly west, but depends on where you are and where I am. 
[09:52:05] 	 anyway, sending south east works too
[09:52:49] 	 just takes a little longer
[09:56:28] 	 modulize sky high - that's what i've been waiting for! ;-) now i can start to play with css, yay!
[09:56:58] 	 something to kill travelling time with
[10:28:15] 	 wow... http://caniuse.com/#feat=x-doc-messaging
[11:26:18] 	 03(mod) Escape wikitext tags written by hand in VisualEditor interface - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33052  (10Gabriel Wicke)
[11:32:41] 	 varne
[11:33:02] 	 Danny_B|backup: Something to kill a time traveler with? :P
[11:44:09] 	 Krinkle: Diseases that have been eradicated in the future.
[11:44:42] 	 Assuming you're talking about a time traveller from the future
[12:02:49] 	 ZombieDan: indeed
[12:03:00] 	 ZombieDan: the easiest way to get rid of a time traveler from the future is to get him's present self (assuming he is travelled back to his own life span)
[12:03:07] 	 his*
[12:03:23] 	 heh... right... if you've got that info
[12:03:34] 	 ;) of course, grandparents work too
[12:04:08] 	 nice
[12:12:34] 	 Heh even better...
[12:14:50] 	 Instead of killing their present self, befrend them... give them something that they'll treasure and carry with them from the future (look at the future person and identify a possible paradox)... inside that object place a remotely detonated explosive... when they come back in time....... boom
[12:15:25] 	 hmmm, so we've a zombie talking about eradicating time travellers from the future...
[12:15:37] 	 are we in a crossover universe?
[12:15:54] 	 The future can have zombies too!!!
[12:16:04] 	 No wait even better...
[12:16:31] 	 ;) The time traveller is trying to stop the creation of the first zombies before the zombie appocalypse destroyed the world
[12:16:32] 	 The future has zombies, but do zombies have a future?
[12:16:42] 	 ah, saturday mornings :D
[12:16:53] 	 You know.... Terminator... ;) but with undead instead of robots
[12:16:54] 	 ZombieDan: which would be you?
[12:17:06] 	 and hence you're trying to find a way to kill time travellers from the future?
[12:17:09] 	 MAKES SENSE!
[12:17:28] 	 yuvipanda: ;) Someone who hasn't changed his nick in awhilev
[12:18:40] * yuvipanda  notes to tell the time travelling future robot where to find the first zombie, ZombieDan 
[12:21:19] 	 Didn't want to lose this nick in FreeNode's database cleanup
[12:23:46] 	 hey, I was wondering, is there something that makes it possible to check where an article redirects to, if it is a redirect?
[12:24:02] 	 like {{#redirectto:Foo}} returns Bar
[12:25:20] 	 No... what kind of reason do you need it for
[12:28:13] 	 Namtnad: I want to make a template, where people can insert an item name
[12:28:31] 	 and every item has an "exchange" page (a kind of data page related to th page)
[12:28:41] 	 and the mainspace has lots of redirects
[12:29:14] 	 so if I could be able to make a template where people can enter something, then the template follows the redirect, and then uses that pagename to get to the Exchange namespace
[12:29:57] 	 so "foo" redirects to "bar", and someone does {{Exch|foo}}, it should return info from {{Exchange:bar}}, without Exchange:Foo being a redirect
[12:33:42] 	 03(mod) Can't add ssh key for LDAP user who already had developer access - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37818  +comment (10Krenair)
[12:46:35] 	 03(NEW) Report operations/mediawiki-config at #mediawiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37866 normal; Wikimedia: Git/Gerrit; (Platonides)
[12:46:40] 	 New review: GWicke; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12705
[12:46:42] 	 Change merged: GWicke; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12705
[12:47:26] 	 03(mod) Report operations/mediawiki-config at #mediawiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37866  +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[12:47:41] 	 03(mod) Add Siyam Rupali Font for Bishnupriya Manipuri - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37863  normal->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[12:47:59] 	 03(mod) Install WikimaniaShopLink extension for wmflabs beta enWiki and simpleWiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37852  normal->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[12:52:54] 	 03(mod) Simpler way to specify database details for the API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37565  +comment (10Platonides)
[12:55:21] 	 03(mod) Lat/lon should be NULL when empty - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37422  +comment (10Platonides)
[13:01:39] 	 hi, on my wiki some articles have bas CSS for the “retrieved from” statement, it goes all over the article, that a known bug?
[13:02:25] 	 s/bas/bad/
[13:04:09] 	 03(NEW) Rectify the Wrong Post - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37867 major; Analytics: ReportCard; (deb.newway)
[13:05:35] 	 03(mod) Rectify the Wrong Post - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37867  (10Debasish)
[13:07:13] 	 03(FIXED) Install WikimaniaShopLink extension for wmflabs beta enWiki and simpleWiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37852  +comment (10Peter Bena)
[13:55:43] 	 03(mod) gerrit-rm messages for operations/mediawiki-config.git to #wikimedia-dev - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37866  summary; +comment (10Krinkle)
[14:03:59] 	 03(FIXED) Implement Promise interface in mediawiki.api module - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36783  (10Krinkle)
[14:05:00] 	 03(mod) QUnit filter for 'mediawiki.js' shouldn't run other mediawiki.* modules - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34815  -upstream ; +comment (10Krinkle)
[14:05:22] 	 03(FIXED) QUnit filter for 'mediawiki.js' shouldn't run other mediawiki.* modules - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34815  +comment (10Krinkle)
[14:12:30] 	 03(mod) Enable liquidthreads for the Wikimedia Brasil wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/25609  (10mybugs.mail)
[14:32:02] 	 03(ASSIGNED) Bugzilla uses invalid markup or wrong doctype - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/1463  normal->trivial; +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[14:48:39] 	 New patchset: Krinkle; "(bug 31895) Fix bug in mediawiki.js with early domready handlers." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12721
[14:49:24] 	 New patchset: Krinkle; "(bug 31895) Fix bug in mediawiki.js with early domready handlers." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12721
[14:52:21] 	 03(mod) mw.loader "ready" mode is wrong when called from a $.fn.ready handler bound before mediawiki.js loads - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31895  -easy ; summary; +comment (10Krinkle)
[14:55:19] 	 Change abandoned: Krinkle; "For some reason this revert was staged twice. The other one (which was merged) is I8911140f7fe14105b..." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12718
[15:00:21] 	 New review: Krinkle; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master); V: 0 C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12614
[15:12:48] 	 New patchset: GWicke; "Entity-escape [<>] in text content" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12722
[15:31:30] 	 New patchset: GWicke; "Explain reasoning behind number of worker calculation" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12723
[15:31:46] 	 New review: GWicke; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12723
[15:48:15] 	 03(mod) Gerrit drafts should be visible to anonymous users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37115  +comment (10Gabriel Wicke)
[16:03:01] 	 New review: GWicke; "Merge this quickly, since we don't want users to insert HTML tags into VE test pages right now." [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12722
[16:03:03] 	 Change merged: GWicke; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12723
[16:03:04] 	 Change merged: GWicke; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12722
[16:03:06] 	 Krinkle: why is "function( $, mw ) {" being replaced by "function ( mw, $ ) {" (on changes like this: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/10662/3/resources/mediawiki.api/mediawiki.api.parse.js,unified)
[16:03:27] 	 is it just a new convention?
[16:03:50] 	 what motivated that?
[16:11:26] 	 Any idea what's going on here: http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luokka:Minityng%C3%A4t_maaliskuu_2011 ?
[16:11:48] 	 R and S before A..
[16:13:36] 	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Nice error messages for no-JS/no-Vector users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37855  +comment (10Brion Vibber)
[16:30:15] 	 helderwiki: Oh, I didn't even realize. The main motivation being that general order of import starts with the base library and import utilities and vendors from there
[16:30:32] 	 I do that everywhere (at least outside mw)
[16:31:04] 	 the indention fix is the main change. The alias order is trivial
[16:36:37] 	 New patchset: Eranroz; "Bug 13673 support for directionality for reference" [mediawiki/extensions/Cite] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7738
[16:39:30] 	 New review: Krinkle; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8906
[16:48:13] 	 03(mod) Diffsize is completely off - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37734  (10duplicatebug)
[16:48:13] 	 03(mod) Several history entries for the same content - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37225  (10duplicatebug)
[16:49:31] 	 03(mod) Erroneous diff sizes in history - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37443  (10duplicatebug)
[16:49:36] 	 03(mod) Several history entries for the same content - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37225  (10duplicatebug)
[16:51:26] 	 03(mod) Trying to hide many revisions at once causes a 414 Request-URI Too Long error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37488  (10duplicatebug)
[16:51:26] 	 03(mod) RevDelete/HideUser (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/18840  (10duplicatebug)
[16:58:46] 	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Cut-n-paste from one window to another loses formatting - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37860  +comment (10Brion Vibber)
[17:01:09] 	 03(NEW) empty wgScriptPath make exporting to PDF fail - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37868 critical; MediaWiki extensions: Collection; (Coiby.Xu)
[17:02:56] 	 03(NEW) VisualEditor window-close prompt thinks I'm returning to view mode - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37869 normal; VisualEditor: User Interface; (brion)
[17:06:15] 	 Evening guys. Any particular reason within mediawiki that flac isn't permitted for upload?  Isn't it a free codec or something?
[17:06:35] 	 (when I say mediawiki, I mean Wikipedia in whatever the current version is) :)
[17:06:44] 	 03(FIXED) VisualEditor: npm dependencies - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35376  +comment (10Gabriel Wicke)
[17:07:24] 	 03(NEW) VisualEditor: images don't round-trip properly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37870 normal; VisualEditor: General; (brion)
[17:10:03] 	 03(mod) VisualEditor: images don't round-trip properly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37870  +comment (10Brion Vibber)
[17:10:57] 	 New patchset: GWicke; "Use _inNewlineContext method instead of bare onNewline" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12726
[17:11:33] 	 03(mod) VisualEditor: wrap parser output callback - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35377  (10Gabriel Wicke)
[17:11:57] 	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Throws error when trying to edit blank (but extant) page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37843  (10Gabriel Wicke)
[17:12:48] 	 03(mod) Magic words are considered to be (non-existing) templates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31576  (10Gabriel Wicke)
[17:13:24] 	 03(mod) Magic words are considered to be (non-existing) templates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31576  (10Gabriel Wicke)
[17:13:43] 	 03(NEW) Search ignoring my settings explicitly set on [[Special:Search]] (advanced search) when search term starts with ":" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37871 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Lucene Search; (rainerrillke)
[17:14:17] 	 03(NEW) VisualEditor: templates don't round-trip properly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37872 normal; VisualEditor: General; (brion)
[17:17:00] 	 03(mod) Several history entries for the same content - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37225  +comment (10Aaron Schulz)
[17:17:10] 	 Barebone, I don't think there's one
[17:17:29] 	 it's probably just that we wouldn't be able to show a player for it
[17:17:37] 	 Platonides, what?
[17:17:39] 	 but that doesn't preclude its use for storage
[17:18:12] 	 sorry, it was a reply to BarkingFish, not to you, Barebone
[17:18:32] 	 Oh, that makes sense now. No problem. :-)
[17:20:08] 	 Platonides, ah, that might be why.  I've made a broadcast test tone which needs to be uploaded and playable with 0% distortion whatsoever, so I wanted to add to commons as a flac
[17:20:29] 	 it is going to get attached to an article about the subject, as a demonstration
[17:21:06] 	 03(NEW) VisualEditor: toolbar mispositioned on iPad - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37873 normal; VisualEditor: User Interface; (brion)
[17:22:55] 	 there's https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32103 for uploading FLAC
[17:23:15] 	 although it seems to depend on TimedMediaHandler support for transcoding it
[17:23:44] 	 New review: Subramanya Sastry; "This should fix the problem.  But, we could consider refactoring the onNewline and other newline fla..." [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12726
[17:23:47] 	 I'd just open another bug for supporting to upload flacs to commons, even without transcoding support
[17:24:22] 	 03(NEW) VisualEditor: selection popup arrow is overlapped by selection controls on iPad - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37874 normal; VisualEditor: User Interface; (brion)
[17:24:29] 	 New patchset: Eranroz; "AJAXify watchlist editor" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9979
[17:25:52] 	 New patchset: GWicke; "Small (and incomplete) fix to table cell tsr" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12727
[17:28:12] 	 Platonides, I will get on that. Thank you :)
[17:28:23] 	 New patchset: GWicke; "Use _inNewlineContext method instead of bare onNewline" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12726
[17:29:03] 	 New patchset: Foxtrott; "bugfixes: missing break in switch; trying to access null as object" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticPageSeries] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12728
[17:29:14] 	 New review: GWicke; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12726
[17:29:15] 	 Change merged: GWicke; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12726
[17:38:33] 	 03(NEW) VisualEditor scrolls to top of page after paste on iPad - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37875 normal; VisualEditor: User Interface; (brion)
[17:40:35] 	 03(NEW) There's no way to log into the account in the Wikipedia app - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37876 normal; Wikipedia App: Generic; (amir.aharoni)
[17:42:30] 	 03(mod) VisualEditor: toolbar mispositioned on iPad - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37873  +comment (10Brion Vibber)
[17:46:38] 	 I am confused by  the meaning of/what to do about {{Drugbox/{{PAGENAME}}.  Atorvastatin has this but others, such as Rosuvastatin do not (the Drugbox is "in place").  How do I get to the drugbox of Atorvastatin (using an api query)?
[17:48:29] 	 03(NEW) feature suggestion: save articles or bookmarks online - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37877 enhancement; Wikipedia App: Save Article; (amir.aharoni)
[17:48:30] 	 03(mod) There's no way to log into the account in the Wikipedia app - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37876  (10Amir E. Aharoni)
[17:49:02] 	 03(NEW) Rearranging the display of advanced options on Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-searchoptions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37878 enhancement; MediaWiki: Special pages; (mediawiki)
[17:56:39] 	 Krinkle: thanks
[17:57:41] 	 New review: GICodeWarrior; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9979
[18:08:33] 	 Hi
[18:08:49] 	 I was wondering if anyone was familiar with this bug: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crafting
[18:09:15] 	 I'm having a hard time finding any info on it and I can't seem to revert to older revisions either
[18:11:34] 	 Performing a rollback tells me that the page is not a content page
[18:13:07] 	 Nobody?
[18:17:51] 	 how did it appear?
[18:17:59] 	 Just out of the blue
[18:18:05] 	 there's an inconsistency in the db
[18:18:24] 	 Any idea how this could be fixed?
[18:20:28] 	 just revert to the previous version
[18:20:58] 	 hello
[18:21:00] 	 do you have access to the db?
[18:21:06] 	 hi I-fy
[18:21:26] 	 so i've just installed a mediawiki for our documentation page 
[18:21:31] 	 I already tried reverting by opening a previous revision and then saving that, which brings up a blank page
[18:21:42] 	 I don't have access to the db
[18:22:26] 	 http://www.minecraftwiki.net/index.php?title=Crafting&oldid=332446 -> edit -> save
[18:22:31] 	 and i'm trying to get a nice website up and running
[18:22:37] 	 hnn...
[18:23:02] 	 to have a nice page like the first page from mediawiki
[18:23:43] 	 there is probably interesting information at the error log
[18:23:43] 	 Platonides, tried it, bring me to http://www.minecraftwiki.net/index.php?title=Crafting&action=submit, completely empty
[18:25:38] 	 I'm getting a continuous eidt.conflicct
[18:25:48] 	 New review: Nikerabbit; "For reference, what did it break?" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9850
[18:27:09] 	 hi! Is there a place to test to experiment with templates? Something like sandbox but for templates so that it doesn't clutter the recent changes page?
[18:28:36] 	 requ/join #wikimedia-toolserver
[18:28:39] 	 gah
[18:29:43] 	 New patchset: Platonides; "WikiPage::preSaveTransform() was deprecated in r103228 (018d885f)" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12729
[18:30:54] 	 03(mod) Escape wikitext tags written by hand in VisualEditor interface - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33052  +comment (10Gabriel Wicke)
[18:34:16] 	 03ezachte *  10/trunk/wikistats/squids/SquidCountArchiveProcessLogRecord.pm: regexp fix
[18:39:37] 	 03(mod) VisualEditor: wrap parser output callback - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35377  +comment (10Gabriel Wicke)
[18:41:09] 	 New review: CSteipp; "Re Hoo man's comment: correct, I put the check inside that check because if they have the right to e..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/10458
[18:42:16] 	 03(mod) Escape wikitext tags written by hand in VisualEditor interface - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33052  +comment (10Liangent)
[18:42:17] 	 New review: Aaron Schulz; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12729
[18:42:19] 	 Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12729
[18:45:38] 	 New patchset: Eranroz; "AJAXify watchlist editor" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9979
[18:45:39] 	 New review: Nikerabbit; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12714
[18:45:42] 	 Change merged: Nikerabbit; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12714
[18:47:47] 	 03(mod) empty wgScriptPath make exporting to PDF fail - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37868  04CRIT->normal; +comment (10Marcin Cieślak)
[18:48:05] 	 03(mod) empty wgScriptPath make exporting to PDF fail - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37868  +comment (10Marcin Cieślak)
[18:49:40] 	 New review: Eranroz; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9979
[18:54:18] 	 New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "[LockManager] Added support for a default lock manager." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12730
[18:59:09] 	 03(mod) Escape wikitext tags written by hand in VisualEditor interface - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33052  +comment (10Gabriel Wicke)
[19:00:14] * Aaron|home  chuckles at http://stackoverflow.com/a/218539
[19:20:34] 	 03(mod) OpenID & PostgreSQL problem: update.php: Call to undefined method PostgresField::isMultipleKey() in OpenID.hooks.php on line 361 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34846   +postgresql (10Marcin Cieślak)
[19:20:45] 	 03(mod) OpenID & PostgreSQL problem: Query failed: ERROR: column "uoi_user_registration" does not exist ...ID::getUserOpenIDInformation */ uoi_openid, uoi_user_r... in includes/db/DatabasePostgres.php line 254 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34844   +postgresql (10Marcin Cieślak)
[19:22:28] 	 I would like to start maintaining the plugin http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:PHPBB/Users_Integration
[19:22:38] 	 How would I do this?
[19:23:30] 	 RBX_pawtracks: contact the current maintainers if they are linked
[19:23:39] 	 is there a way to debug UDP
[19:23:46] 	 !udp
[19:24:06] 	 @search feed
[19:24:06] 	 Results (Found 1): useful, 
[19:24:11] 	 !useful
[19:24:11] 	 MediaWiki is useful for everything, it can simulate nuclear weapons blasts or feed your cat
[19:25:14] 	 petan, The author is Nicholas Dunnaway and I went to his page and their is no contact info and it apears that he has been inactive for years.
[19:25:29] 	 It is empty
[19:25:32] 	 New review: Aaron Schulz; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12703
[19:25:34] 	 Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12703
[19:31:59] 	 <_<
[19:32:03] 	 New review: Aaron Schulz; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12699
[19:32:06] 	 Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12699
[19:33:41] 	 03(mod) Can't add ssh key for LDAP user who already had developer access - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37818  +comment (10Chad H.)
[19:35:21] 	 03(mod) gerrit-rm messages for operations/mediawiki-config.git to #wikimedia-dev - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37866  +comment (10Chad H.)
[19:36:41] 	 I'm getting the following error trying to update from 1.14 to 1.19.1:
[19:36:42] 	 Missing rc_timestamp field of recentchanges table. Should not happen.
[19:39:22] 	 New review: Aaron Schulz; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12189
[19:39:25] 	 Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12189
[19:39:42] 	 JeroenDeDauw: hmm, that's mildly annoying
[19:40:35] 	 Apple's CoreImage SDK has a library HiDPIAPI (related to retina display graphics).
[19:40:43] 	 that sounds so funny when prunounced
[19:41:06] 	 haye dee pee aye, api aye
[19:41:10] 	 Hee-duppi-apee-ayee
[19:41:21] 	 :D
[19:41:21] 	 as far as I an see there is an rc_timestamp in that table... not sure why that error is occuring
[19:41:24] 	 I could see someone wanting to re-declare the signature for documentation/IDE reasons, even to document addition options that a function may take
[19:41:29] 	 03(NEW) Legacy skins have no "cite this page" link - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37879 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Cite; (marcin.cieslak)
[19:41:42] 	 03(NEW) Legacy skins do not support permalink and related links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37880 normal; MediaWiki: User interface; (marcin.cieslak)
[19:41:42] 	 03(mod) Article->PDF not available in classic skin - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/17693  (10Marcin Cieślak)
[19:41:43] 	 03(mod) Skins improvement (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27292  (10Marcin Cieślak)
[19:41:45] 	 03(mod) Legacy skins have no "cite this page" link - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37879  (10Marcin Cieślak)
[19:44:55] 	 RBX_pawtracks[Aw: just overtake it :P
[19:45:23] 	 My name was subposeed to be RBX_pawtracks[Away] Lol
[19:45:30] 	 Username limit failure
[19:46:06] 	 petan, What are the steps for taking over a plugin? I haven't taken over one before :/
[19:52:18] 	 I love how PHP docs say call_user_func returns false on error
[19:52:23] 	 And it actually returns null
[19:52:42] 	 New review: Krinkle; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11726
[19:59:32] 	 03(mod) Can't add ssh key for LDAP user who already had developer access - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37818  +comment (10Krenair)
[20:03:33] 	 RBX_pawtracks: just start working on it
[20:03:44] 	 Alright
[20:03:47] 	 RBX_pawtracks: or eventually clone it to your own branch
[20:03:57] 	 Alright
[20:03:59] 	 Thanks.
[20:06:00] 	 03(mod) gerrit-wm messages for operations/mediawiki-config.git to #wikimedia-dev - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37866  summary; +comment (10Platonides)
[20:09:59] 	 03(NEW) resource problems related to bits.wikimedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37881 normal; Wikimedia Labs: deployment-prep (beta); (benapetr)
[20:10:53] 	 03(mod) resource problems related to bits.wikimedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37881  +comment (10Peter Bena)
[20:14:50] 	 Hello, I'm working on a wiki, where the owner does not matter. So I've got a bureaucrat, that he should ask the owner if he can access to the local setting, and so on get. The problem is that I do not know now whether you need to FTP or SSH access.
[20:15:56] 	 Hammond: any will do, ssh is probably better
[20:17:10] 	 How do you forgive the SSH access
[20:17:42] 	 Hammond: forgive?
[20:17:46] 	 03(NEW) Fatal error, undefined method "HistoryBlobStub::uncompress()" when running update.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37882 major; MediaWiki: Installer; (porplemontage)
[20:18:18] 	 03raymond *  10/trunk/extensions/ (6 files in 6 dirs): Localisation updates from http://translatewiki.net.
[20:18:31] 	 How can i give the SSH access
[20:19:43] 	 Hammond: it's not something MediaWiki is doing; it's normally done by creating the user in the system and giving her permissions to change MediaWiki files (including LocalSettings.php)
[20:20:26] 	 and how?
[20:23:18] 	 Hammond: I am sorry I don't know how to do this on your operating system etc.
[20:23:58] 	 can you try to explain the problem (maybe in German if it's easier)
[20:24:15] 	 you can German
[20:27:50] 	 03(mod) gerrit-wm messages for operations/mediawiki-config.git to #wikimedia-dev - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37866  +comment (10Dereckson)
[20:33:54] 	 sag das doch gleich Deutsch ist meine Mutter sprache
[20:33:55] 	 03(ASSIGNED) New custom namespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37742  +comment (10Dereckson)
[20:35:44] 	 Aaron|home: what is?
[20:36:29] 	 03(mod) Commons uploader - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33859  (10Amir E. Aharoni)
[20:36:34] 	 03(mod) Authentication support for Android app - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31458  (10Amir E. Aharoni)
[20:37:36] 	 On [[API:Allusers#Parameters]] It says there is a prefix to the parameters in the infobox, but why not just put the parameters with the prefix in the parameter list?
[20:38:37] 	 14(DUP) There's no way to log into the account in the Wikipedia app - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37876  +comment (10Amir E. Aharoni)
[20:38:38] 	 03(mod) Authentication support for Android app - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31458  +comment (10Amir E. Aharoni)
[20:39:21] 	 03(mod) Authentication support for Android app - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31458  (10Amir E. Aharoni)
[20:39:22] 	 03(mod) feature suggestion: save articles or bookmarks online - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37877  (10Amir E. Aharoni)
[20:39:59] 	 03(mod) feature suggestion: save articles or bookmarks online - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37877  (10Amir E. Aharoni)
[20:40:00] 	 03(mod) There's no way to log into the account in the Wikipedia app - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37876  (10Amir E. Aharoni)
[20:41:32] 	 03(mod) Rejection of odd user agents in search - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37618  (10rharwood)
[20:49:13] 	 evening guys - quick question for you. Is there a system on wikipedia to prevent a user from making their username in the same form as an IP address, which would cause a collision with a real IP?
[20:49:22] 	 *on wikipedia / in your software
[20:49:45] 	 BarkingFish already mentioned in #wikimedia-dev
[20:49:59] 	 ah, ok then, No probs ToAruShiroiNeko :)
[20:50:06] 	 no one replied yet tho
[20:50:11] 	 but its good to keep it in one place
[20:50:16] 	 feel free to join the convo there :)
[20:50:19] 	 BarkingFish, yes
[20:50:25] 	 you can't register such name
[20:50:40] 	 Platonides you actually can with IPV6
[20:50:45] 	 Platonides, there's nothing to stop an IPv6 though, we just had a similar one turn up
[20:50:47] 	 its an invalid IPV6 ip tho
[20:51:04] 	 apparently it's up in the dev channel, so I'll keep it there now.
[20:59:04] 	 03(mod) New custom namespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37742  +comment (10Dereckson)
[21:02:51] 	 hi
[21:02:58] 	 03(mod) allow cropping images when rendered - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/7757  +comment (10Dereckson)
[21:04:14] 	 if cant select a line of text, because of mooving bar, is that a bug?
[21:06:03] 	 03(NEW) Tracking Wikimedia Commons new feature requests - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37883 enhancement; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (dereckson)
[21:06:04] 	 03(mod) Add a lightbox view to browse media categories. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37478  (10Dereckson)
[21:06:05] 	 03(mod) Wikimedia Commons needs a built-in image editor - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37732  (10Dereckson)
[21:06:05] 	 03(mod) Wikimedia Commons needs a built-in audio file editor - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37733  (10Dereckson)
[21:06:06] 	 03(mod) Tracking bug (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/2007  (10Dereckson)
[21:06:06] 	 New patchset: Platonides; "Class renaming didn't went into change 12729" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12781
[21:06:19] 	 Hi Juandev 
[21:07:09] 	 Do you have a software to create a video of this issue? It would be easier to understand the problem.
[21:11:01] 	 Dereckson: huh, you want quite a lot, but why not. The question is if you have a software to watch that video than:-)
[21:11:55] 	 03(NEW) Prevent fake IPv6 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37884 normal; MediaWiki: User login; (to.aru.shiroi.neko)
[21:12:57] 	 Dereckson: OK, now it works. no prob than
[21:13:12] 	 New patchset: Platonides; "(Bug 37884) Do not allow usernames which look like IPv6 addresses." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12782
[21:13:31] 	 btw, problems with extensions goes to their discussion page or bugzilla?
[21:14:31] 	 usually depends on the extension
[21:16:34] 	 03(ASSIGNED) Set $wgCategoryCollation to 'uca-default' and rebuild category sort keys on Portuguese Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35632  +comment (10Dereckson)
[21:19:51] 	 03(NEW) Please enable FlaggedRevs for Turkish Wikiquote - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37885 enhancement; Wikimedia: Extension setup; (vitomedia)
[21:20:08] * Juandev  prefares talk page
[21:21:06] 	 03(FIXED) Prevent fake IPv6 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37884  +comment (10Platonides)
[21:26:40] 	 03(mod) Can't add ssh key for LDAP user who already had developer access - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37818  +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara)
[21:27:02] 	 New review: Reedy; "Ideally needs unit tests to go with this" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12782
[21:34:32] 	 Juandev: if the extension is used on WMF wikis or is a big one, chances are it's on bugzilla
[21:36:28] 	 Juandev: a little less than 250 extensions use bugzilla to track bugs
[21:37:10] 	 You could bookmark https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=MediaWiki%20extensions
[21:37:14] 	 and check if it's on the list
[21:38:20] 	 03(NEW) action=mobileview & page=Main_Page & sections=references returns HTTP 500 error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37886 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend; (yuvipanda)
[21:40:59] 	 good night
[21:41:22] 	 03(mod) Please enable FlaggedRevs for Turkish Wikiquote - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37885   +shell (10Krenair)
[21:48:58] 	 03(mod) Enable Transwiki import on Gujarati Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37511  +comment (10Dereckson)
[21:52:21] 	 03(mod) Enable Transwiki import on Gujarati Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37511  (10Dereckson)
[21:56:50] 	 I don't know why, but my MediaWiki:Sidebar page no longer represents what's shown in the actual rendered sidebar. The rendered sidebar show MW's default sidebar. The site's been running for over five years, so it seems extraordinarily unlikely to be a cache issue.
[21:56:59] 	 Anyone else ever see something like this happen?
[21:57:42] 	 03(ASSIGNED) Enable Transwiki import on Gujarati Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37511  +comment (10Dereckson)
[21:59:30] 	 Hm. A minor change to [[MediaWiki:Sidebar]] fixed it. Still don't know why it happened...
[21:59:36] 	 weird.
[22:01:23] 	 03(NEW) Request to create: Wikitech-a@lists.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37887 normal; Wikimedia: Mailing lists; (admin)
[22:04:36] 	 03(mod) Request to create: Wikitech-a@lists.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37887  normal->15enhancement; +comment (10Thehelpfulone)
[22:11:32] 	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Some fixes and updated rel notes" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMaps] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12784
[22:11:38] 	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Up rel notes" [mediawiki/extensions/Maps] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12785
[22:11:48] 	 New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMaps] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12784
[22:11:51] 	 Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMaps] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12784
[22:12:03] 	 New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Maps] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12785
[22:12:05] 	 Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Maps] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12785
[22:13:41] 	 03(mod) Preferences - Date format - display standard date format - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30087  +comment (10[[kgh]])
[22:14:48] 	 03(NEW) Request to create: lgbt@lists.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37888 normal; Wikimedia: Mailing lists; (admin)
[22:19:11] 	 03(mod) Request to create: lgbt@lists.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37888  +comment (10Nemo_bis)
[22:19:15] 	 03(NEW) Request to create: Wikimedia-US-MW@lists.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37889 normal; Wikimedia: Mailing lists; (admin)
[22:20:11] 	 03(mod) Request to create: lgbt@lists.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37888  normal->15enhancement; +comment (10Thehelpfulone)
[22:20:42] 	 03(mod) Request to create: Wikimedia-US-MW@lists.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37889  +comment (10varnent)
[22:21:24] 	 03(mod) Request to create: Wikimedia-US-MW@lists.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37889  normal->15enhancement; +comment (10Thehelpfulone)
[22:23:01] 	 03(mod) Request to create: lgbt@lists.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37888  +comment (10varnent)
[22:31:44] 	 New review: Anomie; "FYI, I've checked how this change would affect existing users who might be caught by this change. Th..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12782
[22:37:35] 	 Heiya, on Git: Which one it the branch to go for as a consumer HEAD or master. So far I was not really able to see a difference. I am sure there is one. 
[22:39:09] 	 03(mod) Do not allow usernames which look like IPv6 addresses - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37884  summary (10Krinkle)
[22:46:04] 	 New review: Krinkle; "Since it replaces a central call, I'd say this requires unit tests. We can probably re-use the dataP..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12782
[22:47:08] 	 New review: Platonides; "I see the following IPv6-like usernames now at enwiki (some of them were created by wikipedians with..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12782
[22:48:30] 	 New review: Platonides; "Krinkle: User::isValidUserName() -> User::isIP()" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12782
[22:49:43] 	 03(NEW) "review" action not displaying in the logs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37890 normal; MediaWiki extensions: PageTriage; (okeyes)
[22:50:46] 	 New patchset: Platonides; "(Bug 37884) Do not allow usernames which look like IPv6 addresses." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12782
[22:51:19] 	 Platonides: Well, in that case the looksIPv6 is in the wrong place. If for some reason someone managed to create an account with an IP-like address, (which someone did) then that needs to be treated by MediaWiki as a registered user.
[22:51:47] 	 Validation for sign up must be separate from detection from an actual in-use username.
[22:52:04] 	 i.e. old account (Like the ones we have now) as well as things coming form Special:Import
[22:56:28] 	 New review: Krinkle; "In that case the method call is added to the wrong place. If a wiki has an existing account (either ..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12782
[23:03:12] 	 New patchset: Platonides; "(Bug 37884) Do not allow usernames which look like IPv6 addresses." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12782
[23:03:39] 	 03(NEW) Do not apply mobile transforms to Wikipedia app on Tablets - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37891 normal; Wikipedia App: Generic; (yuvipanda)
[23:04:18] 	 03(mod) Tracking Bug for 1.3 release of Android App / 3.3 release of iOS app - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37092  (10Yuvi Panda)
[23:04:19] 	 03(mod) Add 'Share via Email' option to iOS Wikipedia app - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37094  (10Yuvi Panda)
[23:04:20] 	 03(mod) Shake to show random Article in Wikipedia app - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37722  (10Yuvi Panda)
[23:04:22] 	 03(mod) Do not apply mobile transforms to Wikipedia app on Tablets - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37891  (10Yuvi Panda)
[23:04:22] 	 Krinkle, so you want that check to be just for creatable?
[23:05:01] 	 Platonides: Yes, why not?
[23:06:15] 	 03(FIXED) Request to create: Wikitech-a@lists.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37887  +comment (10Thehelpfulone)
[23:06:38] 	 New patchset: Platonides; "(Bug 37884) Do not allow usernames which look like IPv6 addresses." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12782
[23:07:30] 	 how useful is it to have an account named DD3C:333E:ACCF:A8C0:B755:3BEF or Fe80::02d0:c1ff:fe5c:0010 ?
[23:08:05] 	 I don't know. I'm not doubting the usefulness of blocking account creation for IPv6like
[23:08:35] 	 I'm saying the check should be used in the context of "is this allowed as username" not in the context of "is this username we found in the database an IP address of an anonymous user or an account"
[23:08:49] 	 because in the latter it is afaik simply incorrect.
[23:09:43] 	 Platonides: btw, use lowercase boolean keywords :)
[23:09:51] 	 eh?
[23:09:59] 	 ah
[23:10:35] 	 that was because I converted assert(True|False)\(... to array( \1, ... with a regex :)
[23:11:59] 	 I think that people with those usernames intended wanted to do something sneaky
[23:12:10] 	 that there wouldn't be a legit use of those usernames
[23:12:54] 	 So there is (or should be) another check that disallows login to certain accounts that match patterns. Still, when looking at the contributions or block screen or whatever, it should indicate (because it is) an account and not an IP.
[23:13:21] 	 actually, there is a little difference at the top
[23:13:42] 	 if it's a user account, you see links to the logs, contributions, block...
[23:13:51] 	 but not if there's no account wih that name
[23:14:19] 	 I know
[23:14:59] 	 the only existing accounts at enwiki that don't really look as IPv6 and would be matched would be 23:59:59 and  64:12:33:41 
[23:15:32] 	 So?
[23:15:55] * varnent  pleased that the new announcement mailing list for WM developers was approved and is almost ready to go live
[23:16:23] 	 If I'm wrong, tell me and I'd love to know how and what the real situation is. Otherwise, I don't see why you would want to introduce a bug. Regardless of whether it affects many accounts on wikis we care about.
[23:16:56] 	 wikitech-a?
[23:17:02] 	 I'm not using enwiki because I cared about it
[23:17:10] 	 Krinkle, it was thanksfully made as wikitech-announce
[23:18:17] 	 03(mod) Request to create wikitech-announce@lists.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37887  summary (10Krinkle)
[23:18:43] 	 but because enwiki has all sort of odd things
[23:19:09] 	 if it hasn't been abused on enwiki, it likely hasn't anywhere :)
[23:19:15] 	 nonsense
[23:20:09] 	 And even then, we found a few on en.wiki. Either way, it seems irrelevant to my point. But I don't care.
[23:22:23] 	 we also forbid usernames like 300.168.1.1
[23:23:44] 	 03(mod) Cannot disable signature pref - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33944  (10radiumsoup)
[23:24:00] 	 Mistakes made in the past don't justify current events
[23:24:39] 	 it wasn't a mistake
[23:25:30] 	 Then perhaps respond to the actual concern and tell me why it is good or bad to do it that way?
[23:25:38] 	 03(mod) Set $wgCategoryCollation to 'uca-default' and rebuild category sort keys on Portuguese Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35632  (10mybugs.mail)
[23:25:38] 	 I'm all open.
[23:26:34] 	 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37530
[23:27:27] 	 Krinkle: yes - wikitech-announce - sorry - got distracted  :)  we'll need more moderators..but getting it up is a start
[23:28:02] 	 I'm personally against new mailing lists related to dev. Perhaps renaming or merging, but oh well
[23:28:05] 	 New review: Platonides; "Matching enwiki users in last patch:" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12782
[23:28:10] 	 We're growing :)
[23:28:33] 	 as far as anything that goes to wikitech-announce also goes at plain wikitech-l...
[23:29:34] 	 Krinkle: generally it's a response to developers saying the current list is too active and the MW site is too out of date - happy medium and way to make sure folks know about tech blog, tech section of signpost
[23:31:02] 	 signpost is wikipedia-exclusive. Which is mostly but not entirely true of dev.
[23:32:18] 	 Amgine: you volunteering to run a cross-wiki tech newsletter?  :)
[23:32:33] 	 03(FIXED) Request to create: Wikimedia-US-MW@lists.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37889  +comment (10Thehelpfulone)
[23:32:54] 	 Not in the slightest; but a wikipedia-exclusive one merely reinforces the bias.
[23:37:42] 	 lol - I clicked refresh on PayPal and the whole site changed..never been on a site the minute their new version launches..weird..
[23:37:53] 	 New review: Krinkle; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12782
[23:38:55] 	 ¿How I can execute mediawiki without allow_url_fopen and curl?
[23:39:16] 	 03(mod) Adding interwiki link causes: Database query error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37530  normal->major; summary (10Krinkle)
[23:39:48] 	 uswlv, mediawiki doesn't need allow_url_fopen and curl
[23:39:56] 	 just don't use functionalities needing remote stuff
[23:40:23] 	 http://wiki.idomyweb.com/index.php/Página_principal
[23:40:34] 	 Amgine: yeah - I hate the enWP bias - but lack another 40 hrs a week to chip away at it much  :(
[23:41:29] 	 Krinkle, I'd like more opinions before changing it your way
[23:42:49] 	 Platonides: Sure, np. It would be nice if you could reply there with why you think it should be that way.