[00:01:07] 03(mod) No visual indication on user pages that some users are blocked - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38050 +comment (10Krenair) [00:02:15] New patchset: Subramanya Sastry; "Next round of image roundtripping fixes" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13421 [00:10:26] New patchset: Subramanya Sastry; "Prettified Wikitext Constants hash" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13422 [00:26:45] New patchset: Christian; "Switching to localStorage for copy and paste" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13423 [00:29:54] 03(FIXED) VisualEditor: Cut-n-paste from one window to another loses formatting - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37860 +comment (10Christian Williams) [00:31:34] New patchset: Kaldari; "Improved message for For parameter." [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13424 [00:33:30] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Preserve rich text formatting when pasting from external sources - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33105 summary; +comment (10Christian Williams) [00:36:31] New patchset: Kaldari; "Fixing div height for Chrome, so it doesn't have scrollbars." [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13425 [00:37:08] New review: Kaldari; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13425 [00:37:13] Change merged: Kaldari; [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13425 [00:38:48] 03(NEW) Curation Bar Tag Wizard - Changes to Tags - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38051 normal; MediaWiki extensions: PageTriage; (fflorin) [00:39:10] 03(mod) Curation Bar Tag Wizard - Changes to Tags - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38051 (10Fabrice Florin) [00:41:11] 03(NEW) Curation Toolbar Tag Wizard: Tag Index - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38052 normal; MediaWiki extensions: ArticleFeedbackv5; (fflorin) [00:41:18] 03(mod) Curation Toolbar Tag Wizard: Tag Index - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38052 (10Fabrice Florin) [00:41:27] 03(mod) Curation Toolbar Tag Wizard: Tag Index - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38052 normal->15enhancement (10Fabrice Florin) [00:41:46] 03(mod) Curation Toolbar Tag Wizard: Tag Index - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38052 (10Fabrice Florin) [00:42:06] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Cut-n-paste to external sources gives broken links as URIs point to # not their destination - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38033 +comment (10James Forrester) [00:45:21] 03(NEW) Curation toolbar Tag Wizard: Don't show 'Mark as reviewed' checkbox for reviewed pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38053 normal; MediaWiki extensions: PageTriage; (fflorin) [00:45:39] 03(mod) Curation toolbar Tag Wizard: Don't show 'Mark as reviewed' checkbox for reviewed pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38053 (10Fabrice Florin) [00:49:21] 03(NEW) Curation Toolbar Info Panel: Missing Messages in History - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38054 normal; MediaWiki extensions: PageTriage; (fflorin) [00:49:44] 03(mod) Curation Toolbar Info Panel: Missing Messages in History - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38054 (10Fabrice Florin) [00:52:24] New patchset: Krinkle; "Cleanup: Fix repeated array casting, fix variable name conflict" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13426 [00:57:24] *drool* this is awesome [00:57:34] I have to give Adobe credit here... [00:57:42] Adobe Shadow is awesome [00:59:02] Dantman: You mean the auto-refresh ? [00:59:18] ah, there is more [00:59:21] Mhmm [00:59:24] I hadn't looked that up yet [01:00:29] Connecting mobile devices to the instance in Chrome giving you an environment to test a website in multiple form factors. No hastle on the devices ie: refresh and keeping the devices out of sleep. [01:00:33] Then they went further [01:00:56] Remote access to dev tools [01:01:14] I hope it is free though, because from the screencast I watched a few days ago It seemed like most of it is doable without it (webkit remote debugger is openly usable - just a pain to set up, and auto-refresh the page on the device when you save the file is also nice, but has been done before with javascript that sets up a web sockets and refreshes window (I imagine it uses a similar technique) [01:01:16] So you have element view and a js console from the desktop computer [01:01:20] I know [01:01:37] ;) Oh, I'm saying this from trying it out [01:01:44] Oh sure thing! [01:01:52] Only took a few minutes [01:02:02] They made a mini-app that is just a WebKit browser but with the -webkit-remote-debugger option enabled [01:02:14] The fact it needed a Mac application was the longest thing [01:02:28] Everything else was a trivially simple install [01:02:31] and set up a server on your desktop application that opens a port etc. [01:02:35] Yeah, its pretty good [01:02:38] and free, right? [01:02:47] ;) I sure didn't pay for it [01:02:53] (It better be, since this could be a 2-week open source project with everything that's already out there on this area) [01:03:21] However they do need to fix the resource tab [01:03:53] I can't drill down and figure out why my iPad is not applying a css rule right. [01:04:02] could be a webkit issue, afaik they don't do any part in the DOM inspector. that's just webkit's remote debugger [01:04:21] mhmm [01:05:27] I've only played with it for 10 minutes too, so I'm not an expect. but my first impression was: [01:05:30] mini iOS app that puts important pieces together (which is easier said then done, its not so "mini" actually, but relatively simple compared to how many is just bridging between pieces) [01:06:19] it sets up a bonjour socket, opens url in webkit with remote-debugging port enabled and from there open up http://device:port and there is the inspector [01:06:30] and then there is the auto-refrehs, which is especially nice [01:06:58] 03(NEW) New Pages Feed: Hide 'Review' button for non-editors - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38055 normal; MediaWiki extensions: PageTriage; (fflorin) [01:06:59] Android too... I have a wiki open up in Chrome, my iPad, and my Nexus S [01:07:10] 03(mod) New Pages Feed: Hide 'Review' button for non-editors - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38055 (10Fabrice Florin) [01:07:12] Yep, WebKit is everywhere :D [01:08:49] many HTML5 apis and native APIs in the OS. [01:09:02] Now all I need is a Nexus 7 so I can have all 4 form-factors sitting in front of me displaying the exact same page [01:09:19] heheh [01:10:35] And considering there was a study pointing out normal websites work bad on 7" tablets like the Kindle Fire yet these tablets don't deserve the smartphone treatment, I have a good rationale for work to buy one (plus it has a beautiful price point) [01:11:04] Now if only I had more websites to optimize [01:11:08] just keep telling yourself that :P [01:11:15] lol [01:11:34] I got my first iPod touch in more or less the same way [01:12:03] Wait, what was that comment replying to? [01:12:38] Dantman: To you (I thought you were) saying that you can get the Nexus from your boss because you have a good reason to need it [01:12:43] but I'm reading back now, and you didn't say that [01:13:33] wait, you did [01:13:34] "for work [01:13:36] right? [01:13:38] 03(NEW) WLM app doesn't show all map tiles (except on corners) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38056 normal; WikiLoves Monuments Mobile: Upload; (tfinc) [01:14:02] I have an iPad and a 10" Toshiba Windows tablet both bought by work with that kind of rationale [01:14:14] right [01:15:03] Reminds me of the interview at the ComputerHistory museum on the early days of Pixar. The "rich investor" bought "one of everything" of which most he had no idea what it was. [01:15:31] ah found it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjSExqtiIyg [01:15:33] 03(NEW) WLM App list of countries is not ordered by name - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38057 normal; WikiLoves Monuments Mobile: Browse; (tfinc) [01:16:07] 10" testing, IE/IE6 testing, and now 7" testing... [01:16:23] IE10 PP [01:16:49] Or no microsoft interest? [01:17:06] IE10PP on mobile devices is pretty good in some ways [01:17:07] 03(NEW) Tapping back button from campaign list incorrectly closes app - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38058 normal; WikiLoves Monuments Mobile: General; (tfinc) [01:18:21] Krinkle: Not quite yet... I think he did ask me about surfact at one point... later on it's possible we might buy a surface don't know [01:18:44] It's not quite even out yet [01:18:49] surface is nice [01:19:08] Heh... [01:19:26] Windows RT....... Windows without windows and without Windows software support... lol [01:20:57] The pro might work out (though I saw some negative comments on their choice of CPU) [01:21:17] But I'm not sure how they're going to justify RT [01:22:26] Full HTML5 apps is an admirable way to do things... B2G is doing that... but it doesn't look like Microsoft is bothering to try to push their implementation of the web to make it work. [01:23:28] None of B2G's apis... so their 'tablet' is missing piles of things you usually expect of a tablet [01:24:30] They don't even have WebGL... so they can't even try to push for emerging 3D web based games [01:25:43] So it ends up as a tablet with no accelerometer, etc... a wall blocking them from the web based games with the most potential. And none of the desktop apps. [01:32:41] 03(NEW) WLM APP should handle returning from camera mode better when no photo is taken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38059 normal; WikiLoves Monuments Mobile: Upload; (tfinc) [01:48:28] New review: Aaron Schulz; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13426 [01:48:30] Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13426 [01:48:51] Krinkle: Also... on Surface... ;) this is a good launch sum-up https://plus.google.com/u/0/107033731246200681024/posts/c8Ft6ejJBpC [01:50:24] Ah, yeah, I saw the new Glass video from Google. Pretty sweet [01:50:35] HD peer-to-peer streaming wireless from eye to eye :P [01:50:51] Dantman: Following Google I/O? [01:50:58] Mhmm [01:51:10] its this week, started yesterady [01:51:15] lots of cool stuff coming up [01:51:21] ;) came up... [01:51:28] no, coming up [01:51:39] I haven't seen anything cool yet [01:51:40] :P [01:51:51] Fine... for you [01:51:58] Alrighty [01:52:02] So what did you see so far? [01:52:12] * Krinkle is catching up [01:52:16] I've been watching the livestream... all that's left is some "Ignite" session [01:52:41] Nexus 7, Jelly Bean, Nexus Q, ... [01:52:47] oh, I didn't go for the livetream I"ll watch it later. Wasn't available at the right times. [01:52:49] Nice nice [01:54:05] Project Glass is still awhile from being a consumer product. U.S. based developers that went to I/O have the oportunity to pre-order a $1500 prototype of glass [01:54:35] I learned a new tech term... "Jank" [01:54:51] A lot of work went into Jelly Bean to eliminate it [01:56:05] Galaxy Nexus has Wi-Fi Direct... Jelly Bean has an api to make use of it seamless... so you can have a photo sharing app / game, etc... that does direct communication between devices with no access point in the middle and no pairing, etc... [01:57:47] Google Chrome is coming out on iOS now, both iPhone/iPod and iPad [01:58:30] Jelly-Bean has RTL support [01:59:01] New review: Krinkle; "Oh, how stupid. It turns out onhashchange works fine in old Opera." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4950 [01:59:51] New notification capabilities too... notifications can be expanded to have more text, a photo, and action buttons... ;) You can also now longpress, track down what app sent you a notification, and tell Android to ignore all notifications from that app without having to uninstall it. [02:00:09] 03(NEW) WLM App map view jumps eradicly when selecting a new pin - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38060 normal; WikiLoves Monuments Mobile: Maps; (tfinc) [02:01:02] 03(NEW) WLM App doesn't update stats after second/third upload - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38061 normal; WikiLoves Monuments Mobile: Upload; (tfinc) [02:01:19] 03(ASSIGNED) wrong favicon on siwiki and siwiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38036 major->minor; -shell +shellpolicy; +comment (10Dereckson) [02:02:51] 03(mod) WLM App map view jumps eradicly when selecting a new pin - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38060 +comment (10Tomasz Finc) [02:03:29] 03(NEW) WLM App "near current location" list view doesn't sort by distance - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38062 normal; WikiLoves Monuments Mobile: General; (tfinc) [02:08:23] Krinkle: Oh right... Voice stuff is supposed to get better... I didn't see that part of the event but there's something a bit better than Siri... US English voice recognition will work offline. [02:08:35] 03(NEW) WLM App search detail seems to search worldwide instead of within visible area in map view - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38063 normal; WikiLoves Monuments Mobile: Maps; (tfinc) [02:08:51] Dantman: Interesting [02:09:10] Krinkle: Also, Google Drive has text and photo recognition. So if you upload a pile of stuff to your drive you can actually do a search for text..... in image files. [02:09:11] Dantman: That doesn't make it better than Siri though per se. Having it in many different languages is also important. [02:09:27] and of course how "smart" it is and how it can be used [02:09:34] (e.g. just for dictation or commands) [02:09:43] Krinkle: No no... smart features... [02:09:56] The fact that US English now works offline is an extra [02:10:10] great for those US peeps :P [02:10:36] Heh... well of course they'll eventually try to expand offline capabilities to other languages [02:10:46] I'm still amazed by the demo's of iOS where they ask like "Should I ask my assistance to prepare a rain coat when I leave from work tomorrow" [02:10:46] Speaking of offline... Google Docs now works offline as well. [02:10:52] or whatever [02:11:03] some examples are unrealistic but it demonstrates the flexibility [02:11:24] assistent* for when * [02:15:22] Google+ has a new history api (Facebook's auto-post... ;) without the privacy implications), and events [02:15:46] Improvements to the app and a tablet version too [02:16:41] enough spoilers :) [02:16:50] (assuming this is from I/O) [02:17:06] ;) thought you wanted them [02:17:12] yeah, I do [02:17:18] lol [02:17:24] its complicated [02:17:25] :D [02:34:34] New patchset: Krinkle; "mediawiki.special.preferences: Support Back/Forward navigation" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4950 [02:37:29] New review: Krinkle; "Now using jQuery .on() as shortcut to" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4950 [02:37:41] Change merged: Krinkle; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4950 [02:41:16] New patchset: Krinkle; "DefaultSettings: Clean up "URLs and file paths" section." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12900 [02:42:38] Krinkle: Also... "Call pizza" which was on Android from the start of voices really sums up just about the only really valuable voice handling... everything else doesn't come close to that jump in practical improvement... [02:43:32] 03(NEW) WLM App upload shows no progress indicator - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38064 normal; WikiLoves Monuments Mobile: Upload; (tfinc) [02:43:44] 03(mod) WLM App upload shows no progress indicator - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38064 normal->15enhancement (10Tomasz Finc) [02:44:59] 03(NEW) WLM App upload should have a cancel option - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38065 normal; WikiLoves Monuments Mobile: Upload; (tfinc) [02:46:14] 03(NEW) WLM App upload should have a upload later option - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38066 normal; WikiLoves Monuments Mobile: Upload; (tfinc) [02:46:20] Yay for better bug summaries. :-) [02:47:22] 03(NEW) WLM app should be smarter upon network failure - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38067 normal; WikiLoves Monuments Mobile: Upload; (tfinc) [02:48:56] 03(NEW) Tracking bug for uploaded related issues past showcase #1 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38068 normal; WikiLoves Monuments Mobile: Upload; (tfinc) [02:49:13] 03(mod) Tracking bug for uploaded related issues past showcase #1 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38068 (10Tomasz Finc) [02:49:14] 03(mod) WLM App upload shows no progress indicator - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38064 (10Tomasz Finc) [02:49:14] 03(mod) WLM App upload should have a cancel option - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38065 (10Tomasz Finc) [02:49:15] 03(mod) WLM App upload should have a upload later option - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38066 (10Tomasz Finc) [02:49:15] 03(mod) WLM app should be smarter upon network failure - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38067 (10Tomasz Finc) [02:50:05] ^ :O [02:50:16] 03(NEW) Implement Chunked upload to increase reliability and get a way of measuring upload progress - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38069 normal; WikiLoves Monuments Mobile: Upload; (tfinc) [02:50:41] !!!!!! [02:50:41] Stop using so many exclamation marks ! [02:50:50] 03(mod) Tracking bug for uploaded related issues past showcase #1 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38068 (10Tomasz Finc) [02:50:50] 03(mod) Implement Chunked upload to increase reliability and get a way of measuring upload progress - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38069 (10Tomasz Finc) [02:51:01] !! [02:51:01] A red exclamation mark (!) in the recent changes or on your watchlist means that edit is not patrolled yet. Read more about patrolling at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Patrolled_edits and configuration at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgUseRCPatrol [02:52:11] 03(NEW) WLM App needs to surface administrative zones - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38070 normal; WikiLoves Monuments Mobile: Browse; (tfinc) [02:54:02] 03(mod) Implement Chunked upload to increase reliability and get a way of measuring upload progress - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38069 (10Tomasz Finc) [02:58:18] 03(mod) Issue with newly added AFT rights to Rollbackers on en.wikipedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38040 +comment (10Oliver Keyes) [03:02:11] 03(NEW) WLM App getting started screen looks un styled for a second and then is ok - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38071 normal; WikiLoves Monuments Mobile: General; (tfinc) [03:04:09] 03(NEW) WLM App needs a better login failed message - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38072 normal; WikiLoves Monuments Mobile: General; (tfinc) [03:09:08] 03(NEW) Filter menu appears left-justified - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38073 normal; MediaWiki extensions: ArticleFeedbackv5; (okeyes) [03:09:19] 03(mod) Filter menu appears left-justified - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38073 +aftv5-2.0 (10Oliver Keyes) [03:11:07] 03(NEW) WLM app needs a settings page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38074 normal; WikiLoves Monuments Mobile: General; (tfinc) [03:11:49] 03(NEW) WLM app needs an about page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38075 normal; WikiLoves Monuments Mobile: General; (tfinc) [03:12:43] 03(NEW) WLM app needs a my uploads page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38076 normal; WikiLoves Monuments Mobile: General; (tfinc) [03:13:10] hey guys [03:13:41] is there a way to transclude/combine all the pages in a particular category [03:22:02] is there an extension to block creation of users that match some regex? [03:23:09] my wiki is pretty much spam-free thanks to confirmedit, but there's this spammer that creates one or two accounts every week, just incrementing a digit in the username [03:30:06] danielko: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:TitleBlacklist [03:31:08] lunaticfaith: Is https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:DynamicPageList_%28Wikimedia%29 okay? [03:35:40] New patchset: Krinkle; "(bug 36812) SpecialActiveUsers: Use right instead of group for bots." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7535 [03:37:21] i need something more like google search results [03:37:28] 03(FIXED) Special:ActiveUsers "Hide bots" should hide users from any group having the "bot" right - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36812 summary; +comment (10Krinkle) [03:37:53] that would give a brief description of the item too. [03:38:39] New review: Krinkle; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7535 [03:38:59] Change merged: Krinkle; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7535 [03:39:32] so here i have this chapter (http://quran.com/1) [03:40:58] and it has seven verses, each of them a separate item included in the category 'Surat Al-Fātiĥah' [03:41:39] now i want to to have all these verses/items on the same page dynamically. [03:41:42] lunaticfaith: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:GoogleSiteSearch (though I've never tried it)? [03:42:29] though i dont need a search, i was just explaining [03:44:28] all i need is a category page that would also give description of its items [03:47:48] 03(mod) wrong favicon on siwiki and siwiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38036 +comment (10merl) [03:48:42] 03(mod) wrong favicon on siwiki and siwiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38036 (10merl) [03:50:12] Hazard-SJ: thanks, although it doesn't appear to be working [03:56:51] what am I doing wrong? I put the exact username on the black list, and create the account just fine... it's not blocking anything [03:58:15] What regex did you put on the lacklist? I need the exact line. [04:00:19] no1watches.* [04:01:55] "Welcome, No1watchesabc"<-- why isn't it matching? [04:05:02] case? [04:05:45] it [04:05:51] 's supposed to be case insensitive [04:06:15] the account was registered with lowercase [04:07:03] if I write a rule with .*\d\d to block all acounts that end up in double digits, it works [04:12:21] do you guys know any wiki related to a city or state? [04:12:40] figured it out, I have to use the User: prefix on all regexes related to usernames [04:42:52] nust be at the end of the lind [04:47:27] 03(mod) Current positioning of the "Enhanced watchlist" preference is confusing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35768 +comment (10Ryan Kaldari) [04:49:54] New patchset: Amire80; "Adding utility functions for the ULS langdb" [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13114 [04:51:04] New review: Santhosh; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13114 [04:54:57] New review: Ori.livneh; "On Thursday, June 28, 2012 at 2:27 AM, Siebrand (Code Review) wrote:" [mediawiki/extensions/Babel] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13297 [04:55:39] Change abandoned: Kaldari; "Redundant to 9739" [mediawiki/extensions/Math] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/10708 [05:00:10] can anybody tell me how to view all the category items on a single page [05:00:42] i want to transclude/combine all the pages a category contains [05:00:54] something like this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28all%29 [05:15:18] 03(NEW) Cannot transclude a section by heading more than once - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38077 normal; MediaWiki extensions: LabeledSectionTransclusion; (david) [05:17:54] New patchset: Amire80; "Adding utility functions for the ULS langdb" [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13114 [05:18:29] New review: Amire80; "Patch Sets 3 and 4: addressing comments by Santhosh on Patch Set 2." [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13114 [05:34:16] New patchset: Subramanya Sastry; "More thumb roundtripping fixes." [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13430 [05:47:15] New patchset: Liangent; "Fix Change I6d548d06, redo Change I23407ae6: Add one more space" [mediawiki/extensions/Math] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13431 [05:48:26] New patchset: Santhosh; "Reduce the header size to match design" [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13432 [05:49:11] New review: Santhosh; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13114 [05:49:14] Change merged: Santhosh; [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13114 [05:50:36] New review: Tim Starling; "Please just add the relevant characters to the strcspn() instead of using any variant of htmlspecial..." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13336 [06:02:22] Hi everyone! I've chosen "closed wiki" during install, and how do I add some new users in addition to main account? [06:03:00] Kyshtynbai: You can create accounts at Special:CreateAccount while logged in. [06:03:14] * Hazard-SJ has to go [06:04:10] Thank you! [06:14:02] New review: Tim Starling; "Definitely a -2 for me due to the eval()." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11836 [06:23:41] New review: Tim Starling; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11132 [06:23:45] Change merged: Tim Starling; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11132 [06:38:07] 03(mod) wrong favicon on siwiki and siwiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38036 +comment (10Dereckson) [07:16:07] 03(NEW) User tool links are in content language instead of user language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38078 normal; MediaWiki extensions: PageTriage; (raimond.spekking) [07:19:39] New review: Tim Starling; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Scribunto] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9956 [07:19:41] Change merged: Tim Starling; [mediawiki/extensions/Scribunto] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9956 [07:20:59] i heard somewhere once that gadget script files would be getting their own namespace, "Gadget"... [07:21:06] is this really true? or just an evil rumour? [07:23:06] 03(NEW) Transform date in the author line to user preference date format - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38079 normal; MediaWiki extensions: PageTriage; (raimond.spekking) [07:23:18] tto: Its true [07:23:26] ooh! exciting [07:23:28] when??? [07:23:38] Well, its not a goal in and of itself. Its part of a bigger plan [07:23:54] tto: The Gadgets extension is being rewritten to take care of several fundamental issues [07:24:02] (don't worry, everything is backwards compatible) [07:24:07] sorry, I was getting excited... but seriously, is there a page on mw.org documenting this stuff? [07:24:12] Yep [07:24:15] tto: [[RL2]] [07:24:31] The project is called ResourceLoader 2 even though it is really Gadgets 2.0 [07:24:42] thanks, Krinkle! much appreciated [07:24:42] (which a few modifications made in mediawiki core to make it possible) [07:27:09] hi there, can anyone explain me what's the purpose of the "Discussion" tab in mediawiki? it should be discussions about the page, but there must be some particularities. [07:28:15] arhifane: Nope, no restrictions as far as the software goes [07:28:18] Check for example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Einstein [07:28:30] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Albert_Einstein#toc [07:28:49] people discuss things that are taken out of the article because of lack of sources, and then come to an agreement on the talk page [07:28:53] (for example) [07:29:13] Or to point out an issue that they don't know how to fix themselves so someone else can do it [07:29:14] New review: Tim Starling; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9624 [07:29:58] TimStarling: interesting "State: Submitted, Merge Pending" [07:30:03] is it taking so long for the merge? [07:30:13] guess so [07:30:19] ah, no [07:30:20] Krinkle: dependency? [07:30:21] dependency [07:30:23] yeah [07:30:41] 2 layers deep even [07:32:04] New review: Tim Starling; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9623 [07:32:44] that's one layer I guess [07:33:01] one down and 1 to go :) [07:33:34] Aaron marked it -1 [07:36:35] Change abandoned: Hashar; "Bye bye caps lock day. Next review will be October 22nd" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13313 [07:37:36] New review: Henning Snater; "Displaying the most frequently used Wikipedia languages on top, shouldn't these be sorted by their r..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13212 [07:49:11] 03(mod) Issue with newly added AFT rights to Rollbackers on en.wikipedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38040 +comment (10Peter Bena) [07:51:55] 03(mod) WLM App list of countries is not ordered by name - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38057 +comment (10Tomasz Finc) [07:53:25] 03(mod) Issue with newly added AFT rights to Rollbackers on en.wikipedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38040 +comment (10Oliver Keyes) [07:56:59] New review: Henning Snater; "Works for me. Please re-check. You might have run into implications of the recent changes regarding ..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13299 [08:00:09] 03(mod) Issue with newly added AFT rights to Rollbackers on en.wikipedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38040 +comment (10Peter Bena) [08:01:38] 03(mod) Issue with newly added AFT rights to Rollbackers on en.wikipedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38040 +comment (10Oliver Keyes) [08:01:53] New review: Krinkle; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13212 [08:03:13] New review: Amire80; "The region labels become too large this way:" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13159 [08:03:41] New review: Amire80; "Oops, disregard that comment, wrong window." [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13159 [08:03:55] New review: Amire80; "The region labels become too large this way: http://awesomescreenshot.com/0b1990903" [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13432 [08:09:44] New patchset: Amire80; "Introduce Language Category Display(LCD)" [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13145 [08:11:18] New review: Amire80; "Patch set 2: rebase master." [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13145 [08:17:36] 14(INVALID) Issue with newly added AFT rights to Rollbackers on en.wikipedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38040 +comment (10Peter Bena) [08:19:21] 03(FIXED)

 with overflow: auto; causes usability problems for long blocks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37864  +comment (10Michael M.)
[08:24:04] 	 New patchset: Amire80; "Introduce Language Category Display (LCD)" [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13145
[08:24:22] 	 03(mod) Handle  overflow automatically with a scroll bar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/260  +comment (10Michael M.)
[08:25:52] 	 New review: Amire80; "Patch set 3: just whitespace changes, but see the inline comment." [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13145
[08:34:46] 	 New patchset: Krinkle; "Tests: Fix race-condition broken mw.loader unit test" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13436
[08:36:18] 	 New patchset: Krinkle; "Tests: Fix race-condition broken mw.loader unit test" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13436
[08:40:42] 	 New patchset: Krinkle; "ResourceLoader.php: Fix E_NOTICE" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13437
[08:40:59] 	 New review: Krinkle; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13437
[08:41:03] 	 Change merged: Krinkle; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13437
[08:51:00] 	 03(FIXED) Inconsistent escaping in mw.msg vs. jqueryMsg - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34365  +comment (10Michael M.)
[08:52:22] 	 03(mod) Inconsistent escaping in mw.msg vs. jqueryMsg - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34365  (10Krinkle)
[09:03:14] 	 03(NEW) Yet another "dotless i" problem - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38080 normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (vitomedia)
[09:23:10] 	 14(INVALID) Yet another "dotless i" problem - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38080  +comment (10Michael M.)
[09:24:23] 	 03(mod) Yet another "dotless i" problem - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38080  +comment (10Vito Genovese)
[09:30:47] 	 New patchset: Siebrand; "Close span." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13440
[09:31:40] 	 New review: Hashar; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13440
[09:31:42] 	 Change merged: Hashar; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13440
[09:41:22] 	 New patchset: Siebrand; "Tweak two messages and fix a plural syntax." [mediawiki/extensions/EducationProgram] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13441
[09:48:29] 	 03(NEW) mw.Title treads certain titles as file extensions without a file name and fails - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38081 normal; MediaWiki: JavaScript; (Danweetz)
[09:52:59] 	 New review: Siebrand; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/EducationProgram] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13441
[09:53:03] 	 Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/EducationProgram] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13441
[10:01:27] 	 03(mod) Missing account data, contributions and history - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34862  +comment (10Pablo López)
[10:02:04] 	 New patchset: IAlex; "Simplify factory methods of RecentChange." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13442
[10:03:14] 	 New review: Daniel Kinzler; "Since this is getting increasingly complex and seems to have some edge cases, it would be good to ha..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11137
[10:04:56] 	 New patchset: Siebrand; "Please use a spell checker..." [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaMessages] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13443
[10:05:16] 	 New review: Siebrand; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaMessages] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13443
[10:05:18] 	 Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaMessages] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13443
[10:05:39] 	 Hello?
[10:06:27] 	 Does anyone know how to create an index (like one you would see in the back of a text book)?
[10:06:57] 	 03(mod) Setting labels should normalize some things, API should return the actual label on success (5) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36439  (10jeblad)
[10:08:07] 	 03(mod) mw.Title should not validate "extensions" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38081  summary; +comment (10Krinkle)
[10:08:22] 	 03(mod) mw.Title should not validate "extensions" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38081  (10Krinkle)
[10:14:17] 	 New review: Jens Ohlig; "No obvious errors in this HUGE patch set. Tests run okay. Please see the additional questions in the..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 1 C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13346
[10:20:02] * hashar  Reloading Jenkins!!!!
[10:23:47] 	 Who is to deceide or how is it decided in which version deprecated functions are progressed to warning/removed?
[10:25:00] 	 New patchset: Daniel Werner; "The preferred languages are now displayed on top of the language selector ('Stick to That Language' extension). As a fallback (if the user is not logged in) the busiest languages by Wikipedia are displayed on top (this is configurable though). + patch set" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13212
[10:26:01] 	 03(NEW) User Contributions Query doesn't use userCan - security flaw - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38082 normal; MediaWiki: API; (bennet.jeutter)
[10:26:10] 	 qchris: we normally chuck depre warnings for about two major versions I believe
[10:27:01] 	 p858snake|l: So I may progress a function that is deprecated since 1.16 I suppose ;)
[10:27:11] 	 p858snake|l: Thanks!
[10:29:42] 	 the worse that can happen is people complain in gerrit, then it can be discussed and reverted if need be
[10:30:04] 	 03(mod) add environment variable $PROJECTNAME to bashrc - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36352  +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[10:30:25] 	 p858snake|l: qchris: afaik wfDeprecated should be put in from the moment it is deprecated
[10:30:34] 	 the version number controls when warnings are emitted 
[10:31:02] 	 that way a core dev can set that config to 0 and go through usage of deprecated functions in core as well
[10:31:55] 	 Yes, wfDeprecated is already in place.
[10:36:11] 	 New review: Henning Snater; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13212
[10:36:13] 	 Change merged: Henning Snater; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13212
[10:36:25] 	 we’re unable to generate thumbnails for uploaded images with international characters in their filename. when uploading "bøll.png", convert tries to open "bll.png", which doesn’t exist. anybody know a workaround for this?
[10:39:36] 	 03(mod) User Contributions Query and Feed Contributions Query doesn't use userCan - security flaw - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38082  summary (10Bennet Jeutter)
[10:39:53] 	 03(mod) User Contributions Query and Feed Contributions Query doesn't use userCan - security flaw - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38082  +comment (10Bennet Jeutter)
[10:39:54] 	 New review: Jens Ohlig; "Good, good." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13345
[10:40:13] 	 New review: Jens Ohlig; "Good, good." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13345
[10:40:15] 	 Change merged: Jens Ohlig; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13345
[10:40:40] 	 hi, this is my first visit here.
[10:40:58] 	 someone can help me to configure mediawiki
[10:41:25] 	 New patchset: John Erling Blad; "Added some command line switches to ease testin when some items and/or lang fails to load." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13338
[10:41:48] 	 i need using mediawiki from local lan end from internet….in local lan everything is ok, but i cannot use from remote
[10:42:00] 	 because wgAddress= 192.168.0.100
[10:42:03] 	 :(
[10:42:51] 	 New review: Jens Ohlig; "Nevermind." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 1 C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13346
[10:43:53] 	 New patchset: Daniel Werner; "enhanced event processing by using Deferred objects - patch-set 1: using the .promisor property of the returned promise (by $.PersistentPromiser()) to propagate advanced information about the promiser. - patch-set 2: the .promisor.apiAction now is created" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13299
[10:44:09] 	 New patchset: Henning Snater; "Added resource-loader module and css for displaying the preferred languages in the language selector on top, separated. - patch-set 1: removed redundant comment from settings file." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13217
[10:44:29] 	 New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13346
[10:45:17] 	 New review: Jens Ohlig; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13338
[10:47:31] 	 New review: Jens Ohlig; "Top-notch." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13346
[10:47:33] 	 Change merged: Jens Ohlig; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13346
[10:47:36] 	 New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13338
[10:47:39] 	 New review: Daniel Werner; "The above works now after droping the sites table." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13299
[10:50:18] 	 03(mod) add environment variable $PROJECTNAME to bashrc - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36352  +comment (10Daniel Zahn)
[10:50:50] 	 Hi, I'm having some issues with mediawiki. We use httpauth and when the user logs in it tries to update the password of said user, but for some reason it tries to select a user with wrong user_id, and get duplicate entry error.
[10:52:57] 	 New review: Jens Ohlig; "Yay!" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13338
[10:53:00] 	 Change merged: Jens Ohlig; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13338
[10:54:18] 	 03(mod) frrwiki (Nordfriisk): add new namespaces and extensions for wikisource integration - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38023  +comment (10Peter Bena)
[10:56:26] 	 New patchset: Siebrand; "Update code map for be-Tarask and sr-Latn." [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13445
[10:56:51] 	 New review: Siebrand; "(no comment)" [translatewiki] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13445
[10:56:53] 	 Change merged: Siebrand; [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13445
[10:57:38] 	 03(FIXED) add environment variable $PROJECTNAME to bashrc - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36352  +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[10:57:43] 	 03(VERIFIED) add environment variable $PROJECTNAME to bashrc - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36352  (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[11:03:31] 	 New code comment: Krinkle; Shouldn't those %s$1? Anyway, deploying now..; 
[11:04:17] 	 New code comment: Krinkle; . \ Shouldn't those %s be $1? Anyway, deploying now..; 
[11:06:32] 	 New patchset: Daniel Werner; "Added resource-loader module and css for displaying the preferred languages in the language selector on top, separated. - patch-set 1: removed redundant comment from settings file. - patch-set 2: last top language recognized in the right way now, minor co" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13217
[11:08:18] 	 Danwe_WMDE: Don't forget to keep the top line of the commit-msg short and readable (< ~ 65)
[11:08:34] 	 technical reasons aside, makes review easier for others I imagine
[11:09:17] <^demon>	 Yeah, that first line is used for summaries in gerrit, potentially for release notes, one-liners in git-log...
[11:09:21] <^demon>	 First line is very important :)
[11:10:17] 	 and a new line after the first line so that it is actually separated from the top line in gerrit. turns out without it, gerrit will consider it to be a continuation of the title
[11:10:18] 	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Commit_message_guidelines
[11:10:23] 	 (documented it last weekend)
[11:10:56] 	 also also shortened that page by over half
[11:11:42] 	 New patchset: Siebrand; "Update codeMap for be-Tarask and sr-Latn in EOL and OSM" [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13446
[11:12:10] 	 New review: Siebrand; "(no comment)" [translatewiki] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13446
[11:12:12] 	 Change merged: Siebrand; [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13446
[11:13:12] 	 Krinkle-away: Is it the top LINE or just the first sentence? i.e. have to use a linebreak to separate it or is a dot sufficient?
[11:13:50] 	 <1 line below 65 chars>
[11:14:21] 	 the first sentence must fit on one line
[11:14:38] 	 if not, move it to the body and come up with a better title :D 
[11:17:04] 	 New patchset: Siebrand; "More codeMap updates for Rails projects." [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13447
[11:17:10] 	 03a_engels *  10/trunk/wikistats/squids/ (3 files): Using XFF-headers in deciding countries; separating out IPv6 addresses in countries lists
[11:17:19] 	 New review: Siebrand; "(no comment)" [translatewiki] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13447
[11:17:21] 	 Change merged: Siebrand; [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13447
[11:18:36] 	 Danwe_WMDE: btw, are you aware of the meaning of 'group' in a resource module?
[11:18:53] 	 Danwe_WMDE: I'm not sure why you used it in StickToThatLanguage
[11:21:26] 	 New patchset: Santhosh; "Introduce Language Category Display (LCD)" [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13145
[11:27:11] 	 New review: Krinkle; "@Siebrand: That's bug 37564." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13336
[11:27:28] 	 hey are draft comments leaked to gerrit-wm ?
[11:27:43] <^demon>	 Yes, known issue.
[11:27:53] 	 k
[11:27:58] 	 New patchset: Daniel Werner; "Added resource-loader module and css for displaying the preferred languages in the language selector on top, separated. - patch-set 1: removed redundant comment from settings file. - patch-set 2: last top language recognized in the right way now, minor co" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13217
[11:30:23] 	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Added tests for ItemObject class" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13448
[11:36:04] 	 Krinkle-away: actually, not 100% aware I thought it doesn't really make a difference in that case
[11:36:58] 	 03(mod) refactor Item, split data model from database glue (21) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37748  (10Jeroen De Dauw)
[11:37:49] 	 New review: Henning Snater; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13217
[11:37:52] 	 Change merged: Henning Snater; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13217
[11:38:23] 	 Krinkle-away: I know that sentence about the top line, but I am still not sure whether the top line has to be separated with a line-break or whether punctuation after the sentence is enough.
[11:39:10] 	 guess my messages are too long mostly
[11:40:28] <^demon>	 Line break.
[11:40:31] <^demon>	 Here's an example: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/13356/
[11:44:32] 	 I see, thanks
[11:45:37] <^demon>	 You're welcome.
[11:50:40] 	 yeah, without the line between between 1st and 3rd line, gerrit will collapse it all in the header as one line
[11:50:49] 	 Danwe_WMDE: module 'group' is for cache fragmentation 
[11:50:58] 	 default group has no name
[11:51:15] 	 if there is a group, it means it must be loaded in a separate http request
[11:51:37] 	 this way we separate common combinations such as all jquery.ui plugins or things that invalidate a lot like the startup module
[11:52:14] 	 or rather, to avoid cache fragmentation since everything in 1 big request is not always the best solution
[11:52:23] 	 but using that should be very rare
[11:52:53] 	 great, I'll fix this
[11:53:27] 	 Krinkle-away: did you get to my e-mail yet or is it still burried under a pile of work?
[11:54:07] 	 Danwe_WMDE: I have a draft about 75% ready
[11:54:37] 	 good to hear :)
[11:54:59] 	 I could write an ajax app to show live updates through sockets on the estimated percentual progress :P
[11:55:01] 	 New patchset: Demon; "Actually we have many contributors" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13449
[11:55:30] 	 New review: Krinkle; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13449
[11:55:34] 	 Change merged: Krinkle; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13449
[11:56:16] 	 New patchset: Santhosh; "Add autonyms to language database" [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13450
[11:56:36] 	 hi, is there a way to hide the credits for contributions made by people who don't have an account? i want to hide the ip addresses from the &action=credits pages
[11:57:49] 	 03(mod) Show images on image description page previews - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/11243  +comment (10Bawolff)
[11:59:49] 	 03(mod) Show images on image description page previews - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/11243  +comment (10Krinkle)
[12:01:07] 	 New patchset: Daniel Werner; "Removed 'group' from resourceloader module definition (STTLanguage)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13451
[12:15:05] 	 New patchset: Matthias Mullie; "Bug 37580 - Article Feedback - Special Display for IPv6 Addresses" [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13452
[12:19:51] 	 03(mod) Allow new accounts to see the full list of projects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37298  +comment (10Daniel Zahn)
[12:21:33] 	 03(mod) Allow new accounts to see the full list of projects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37298  +comment (10Peter Bena)
[12:22:19] 	 New patchset: Santhosh; "Search using the ISO 639 language code." [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13453
[12:23:34] 	 03(FIXED) Allow new accounts to see the full list of projects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37298  +comment (10Daniel Zahn)
[12:25:03] 	 03(mod) Send notifications for all changes (new patch/review/abandon/merge) in mediawiki/* to mediawiki-commits list - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35531  summary; +comment (10Chad H.)
[12:26:00] 	 New patchset: Matthias Mullie; "Introduce a new hook that allows extensions to add to My Contributions" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13136
[12:35:52] 	 03(mod) Send notifications for all changes (new patch/review/abandon/merge) in mediawiki/* to mediawiki-commits list - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35531  +comment (10Krinkle)
[12:38:33] 	 03(mod) Send notifications for all changes (new patch/review/abandon/merge) in mediawiki/* to mediawiki-commits list - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35531  +comment (10Chad H.)
[12:42:04] 	 New review: Krinkle; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13136
[12:42:52] 	 03(FIXED) Send notifications for all changes (new patch/review/abandon/merge) in mediawiki/* to mediawiki-commits list - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35531  +comment (10Krinkle)
[12:44:58] 	 03(mod) Upgrade Gerrit to 2.4.2 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37406  summary; +comment (10Chad H.)
[12:47:25] 	 New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13451
[12:47:28] 	 Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13451
[12:49:11] 	 New review: TheDJ; "Might be an idea to open a ticket and upload an example file of old and new formats. Might help othe..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12142
[12:51:08] 	 New review: TheDJ; "This actually rewrites the original upload ? Do we do that anywhere else in MediaWiki content upload..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7826
[12:55:48] 	 03(mod) wrong favicon on siwiki and siwiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38036  +comment (10merl)
[13:11:37] 	 New patchset: Henning Snater; "enhanced event processing by using Deferred objects - patch set 2: using the .promisor property of the returned promise (by $.PersistentPromiser()) to propagate advanced information about the promiser. - patch set 3: the .promisor.apiAction now is created" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13299
[13:12:09] 	 I don't think this would work, would it in any php version? public static function onGetLocalURL::Internal( $title, &$url, $query ) {}
[13:12:23] 	 having "::" in any function name
[13:22:14] <^demon>	 Danwe_WMDE: No, :: is used as the scope resolution operator for static function/property calls
[13:23:28] <^demon>	 Only special character you can use in function names is _, but we tend to avoid it preferring lowerCamelCase function names. Something like onGetLocalURLInternal() is fine
[13:23:49] <^demon>	 But doing onGetLocalURL_internal() isn't unheard of. Just be consistent within a class :)
[13:24:53] <^demon>	 freakolowsky: How's it going?
[13:25:57] 	 uh ... fine for now ... but i have a db upgrade planned later today ... so i see dark clowds comeing :D
[13:26:26] 	 03(mod) wrong favicon on siwiki and siwiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38036  +comment (10Dereckson)
[13:26:33] 	 PS: ppl who aske questions like this lately want me to do something for them  ... be an exception :D
[13:28:09] <^demon>	 freakolowsky: Nope, just wondering. Hadn't spoken to you in awhile :)
[13:28:45] 	 :D 10q ... got a dring on credit with me for this response :D
[13:28:56] 	 s/dring/drink/
[13:30:05] 	 New patchset: Matthias Mullie; "Bug 37592 - The drop-down menu for filters is not opening initially with Google Chrome" [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13454
[13:30:30] 	 anyone using eclipse on ubuntu here  ... the #eclipse guys are rather unresponsive
[13:36:01] 	 03(FIXED) tweak gerrit IRC bot to be less verbose in #mediawiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35427  +comment (10Chad H.)
[13:40:48] 	 i'm really starting to hate the ubuntu guys ... and i mean RE-AL-LY ... from 2m below the bottom of my heart ... 
[13:47:04] <^demon>	 I use eclipse on osx :\
[13:48:47] 	 well i'ts the past now ... hat to completely remove the thing and am now installing juno manually .... frackin ubuntu crappy packages ... 
[13:49:40] 	 there was a time like not so long ago when i used to thing ubuntu was like a propper distro ... nowdays they resemble M$ more with each day 
[13:50:49] 	 New patchset: Hashar; "apply override even for specials wiki" [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaMaintenance] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13455
[13:50:53] 	 is it possible to create external links in log entries? they used to work circa MW 1.16 or so, but no longer work with 1.19 series...
[13:51:13] 	 New review: Hashar; "already deployed" [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaMaintenance] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13455
[13:51:15] 	 Change merged: Hashar; [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaMaintenance] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13455
[14:00:31] 	 ^demon: you have a hackathon soon on wikimania in DC, right ... wanted to come, but i was hit with one of two inevetable things in life
[14:00:49] <^demon>	 Well presumably it's not death, so taxes?
[14:01:52] 	 Hi, mediawiki take multiple lines as one lines by default. For example, {l1}\n{l2}{\l3} become {l1}{l2}{l3} How I can stop this?
[14:01:58] 	 yup ... parents borked up something when they gave me their company (just so my dad could retire) ... and then i got 2,5k€ fine 
[14:02:13] <^demon>	 ouchhhh :(
[14:02:34] 	 guess who isn't getting a Xmas card this year :D
[14:03:21] 	 i missed berlin, now DC ... hope i can get my act straight till UK, whenever that is
[14:03:57] 	 Coiby: double newlines
[14:04:03] 	 i think that should work
[14:05:40] 	 freakolowsky: But some times I quote very long texts which has lots of lines. It's tedious to do so.
[14:05:50] <^demon>	 Coiby: Best way to think of it is as a paragraph, and you put a blank line between the paragraphs.
[14:06:16] <^demon>	 Well, if you're wanting something that's preformatted text, perhaps you should look at something like the Poem extension
[14:07:28] 	 03(mod) Script error at addStyleTag somewhere in mw-core for IE - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38032  +comment (10Rainer@Rillke.eu)
[14:07:59] 	 ^demon: Thanks. But poem  may be too poetic:-D There are ordinary texts.
[14:09:12] <^demon>	 The name's a bit misleading. It's for preformatted text in general.
[14:09:54] 	 ^demon: I find this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Line_break_handling. It also suggest Poem. I'll try.
[14:10:19] 	 ^demon: :-[
[14:11:39] <^demon>	 Did not work?
[14:12:07] 	 ^demon: I'm installing the extension now:)
[14:20:33] 	 Btw, does anyone know when will VisualEditor extension be put into wide range of use? This extension is really good for beginners.
[14:23:15] 	 Coiby: no eta
[14:23:32] 	 Coiby: we just released the alpha version, so please do play with it and report bug :-]
[14:23:56] 	 Coiby: you might even help developing it since all source code is published under an open source license
[14:23:57] 	 ;)
[14:24:53] 	 The flow of bugs is drying up. https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&list_id=126598&component=VisualEditor
[14:25:18] 	 impressive
[14:25:28] 	 03(mod) ResourceLoader should work around IE stylesheet limit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31676  +comment (10Rainer@Rillke.eu)
[14:27:43] 	 New patchset: QChris; "Eliminated deprecated functions in TextPassDumper" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13459
[14:28:14] 	 New review: QChris; "readDump is not used in any other file in MediaWiki HEAD, extensions in" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13459
[14:28:33] 	 hashar: Thanks for your great efforts:) I'm afraid I don't time to help develop it this summer. But I'd like to test it and submit bugs.
[14:29:31] 	 that would help to :)
[14:29:48] 	 reporting bug is part of developing a software
[14:31:10] 	 New review: CSteipp; "I think this is (also?) for Bug 37587, in which case "'&<> should not be allowed. But Nikerabbit, ca..." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13336
[14:34:16] 	 Yeah, though fixing bugs take much more efforts than find one:P
[14:36:05] 	 Wow, I try to download it. The download menu show it's for 1.19.x now. Should I download this one for 1.18 or download the trunk one?
[14:36:32] 	 03(NEW) Update 1.20wmf6 so WikimediaMaintenance points to 0931e24 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38083 normal; Wikimedia: Site configuration; (hashar)
[14:37:17] 	 03(mod) Update 1.20wmf6 so WikimediaMaintenance points to 0931e24 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38083   +shell; +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[14:39:44] 	 16:34:16 < Coiby> Yeah, though fixing bugs take much more efforts than find one:P
[14:39:56] 	 This statement doesn't match reality.
[14:41:21] 	 Actually, the most difficult operation is often, especially in GUI applications or servers collaborating aech other with dozens of possible configurations, to be able to reproduce the conditions leading to the bug.
[14:41:41] 	 It's why tester is a job in the IT industry.
[14:44:38] 	 Dereckson: It's correct. The tester is to find bugs even extreme cases. So this make the operation difficult:) 
[14:52:44] 	 Change merged: GWicke; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13418
[14:52:46] 	 New review: cneubauer; "Done in https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?p=mediawiki/extensions/PdfExport.git;a=commit;h=805c95..." [mediawiki/extensions/PdfExport] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12597
[15:09:17] 	 Change merged: GWicke; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13421
[15:16:09] 	 New review: GWicke; "We used to have a style guide for JS that explicitly discouraged horizontal alignment of assignments..." [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13422
[15:20:10] 	 03(NEW) get rid of deployment-nfs-memc - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38084 normal; Wikimedia Labs: deployment-prep (beta); (hashar)
[15:20:35] 	 03(mod) get rid of deployment-nfs-memc - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38084  (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[15:20:35] 	 03(mod) get rid of NFS share - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36646  (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[15:24:36] 	 New review: GWicke; "We used to have a style guide for JS that explicitly discouraged horizontal alignment of assignments..." [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13422
[15:24:37] 	 Change merged: GWicke; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13422
[15:26:30] 	 New review: GWicke; "Yay, 400 rt tests passing ;)" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13430
[15:26:30] 	 Change merged: GWicke; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13430
[15:51:06] 	 03(UNCONFIRMED) Enchant Suggestion mode does not work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34707  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[15:57:35] 	 03(NEW) Statistic page seems - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38085 normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (a1)
[15:58:44] 	 How do you check to see if the user has a particular right in JS?
[15:59:23] 	 gwicke: mooaaaar test !!! ;)
[15:59:41] 	 gwicke: if you manage to get a recent node.js packaged on lucid, we could setup a build job on jenkins :)
[16:00:10] 	 hashar: ;)
[16:00:56] 	 hashar: which version is available on lucid?
[16:02:59] 	 New patchset: Matthias Mullie; "Bug 38019 - Article Feedback - Bucketing for CTAs" [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13471
[16:03:23] 	 04(REOPENED) Issue with newly added AFT rights to Rollbackers on en.wikipedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38040  +comment (10jc)
[16:03:45] 	 New patchset: Reha Sterbin; "Updates to highlighted feedback (bug 36649)" [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13330
[16:04:10] 	 03(mod) The drop-down menu for filters is not opening initially with Google Chrome - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37592  +comment (10Matthias Mullie)
[16:04:21] 	 03(mod) Article Feedback - Bucketing for CTAs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38019  +comment (10Matthias Mullie)
[16:04:25] 	 03(mod) Article Feedback - Special Display for IPv6 Addresses - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37580  +comment (10Matthias Mullie)
[16:04:37] 	 gwicke: some 0.4 something. let me check
[16:05:10] 	 gwicke: 0.4.9-wm2 apparently we have our own nodejs
[16:05:22] 	 hm no
[16:05:25] 	 wm2 is probably something else
[16:06:24] 	 0.4.9 *might* work if none of our dependencies requires something newer
[16:06:29] 	 didn't try yes
[16:06:32] 	 *yet
[16:08:07] 	 need to setup the wikidata tests first
[16:08:12] 	 New patchset: Daniel Werner; "Language is sticky now (STTLanguage extension)." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13475
[16:09:44] 	 hashar: is it possible to remember the tests that passed last time, and flag regressions (failing a test that passed before) as failures?
[16:10:34] 	 Reedy, what's our policy on release notes?
[16:11:02] 	 hashar: could build something like that into parserTests I guess- save the last test results in a JSON dump and set the return value depending on a comparison with that
[16:11:06] 	 gwicke: you will need your test engine to report test result in a format jenkins understand
[16:11:15] 	 gwicke: I think it uses JUnit
[16:11:44] 	 hashar: ok, will check that out
[16:11:53] 	 gwicke: http://windyroad.org/dl/Open%20Source/JUnit.xsd  I think
[16:12:32] 	 easy on the eyes ;)
[16:12:32] 	 gwicke: or reverse engineer PHPUnit which has the  --log-junit  format
[16:12:48] 	 gwicke: I am pretty sure it is easy to reproduce. Let me find an existing one
[16:13:37] 	 yeah, it looks like a small xml snippet
[16:14:26] 	 although something is also returned per test
[16:16:15] 	 gwicke: that is what you get when a test fail : https://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/MediaWiki-Tests-Parser/lastFailedBuild/testReport/?
[16:17:50] 	 hashar: thanks, that looks useful
[16:18:18] 	 gwicke: http://noc.wikimedia.org/~hashar/ptest_2194_junitResult.xml
[16:18:28] 	 gwicke: that is the xml file generated by phpunit
[16:18:53] 	 gwicke: looking for '#248' will give you a case that fail
[16:19:07] 	 hashar: perfect- that is pretty self-explanatory
[16:19:14] 	 hmm
[16:19:20] 	 maybe that is the xml file Jenkins generate
[16:19:28] 	 we can add such a mode to our parserTests runner
[16:19:42] 	 03(mod) enable mobile redirect broken on iOS - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38009  (10Jon)
[16:20:24] 	 gwicke: hahh finally. http://www.phpunit.de/manual/3.6/en/logging.html  :-]  
[16:20:31] 	 gwicke: format is   Test Results (XML)
[16:20:45] 	 the xml file I sent was from Jenkins :-(
[16:20:57] 	 ok
[16:21:12] 	 \O/
[16:21:27] 	 I am out for now
[16:21:31] 	 weekend time
[16:21:44] 	 hashar: thanks, and enjoy your weekend!
[16:21:50] 	 have a nice weekend
[16:22:02] 	 Danke to both of you
[16:22:02] 	 !!
[16:22:02] 	 A red exclamation mark (!) in the recent changes or on your watchlist means that edit is not patrolled yet. Read more about patrolling at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Patrolled_edits and configuration at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgUseRCPatrol
[16:22:08] 	 wm-bot: bye ;-)
[16:22:08] 	 Hi hashar, there is some error, I am a stupid bot and I am not intelligent enough to hold a conversation with you :-)
[16:22:27] 	 ;)
[16:24:46] 	 New patchset: MaxSem; "Bug 36495 - Sanitizer incorrectly converts align="right" for elements that are not table-cells" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13479
[16:26:46] 	 Anyone know how to check user rights?
[16:27:19] 	 like if given user has such right?
[16:27:19] 	 mw.config.get('wgUserGroups'); gives the groups but I want to see the exact permissions
[16:34:32] 	 03(mod) Sanitizer incorrectly converts align="right" for elements that are not table-cells - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36495  +comment (10Max Semenik)
[16:50:10] 	 03(mod) Issue with newly added AFT rights to Rollbackers on en.wikipedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38040  +comment (10Peter Bena)
[17:03:08] 	 03(mod) Statistic page seems - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38085  +comment (10Andrij)
[17:12:55] 	 New review: Nullspoon; "Daniel Kinzler: Thanks - I missed that before commit. :)" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11137
[17:21:18] 	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Cut-n-paste from one window to another loses formatting - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37860  +comment (10Brion Vibber)
[17:30:09] 	 Anybody know of a plugin (if it's possible) that can alternate row colors in a table for easier readability in large tables?
[17:43:12] 	 I discovered some /fun/ iOS behaviour (maybe Anrdoid too a little)
[17:48:36] 	 Dantman: Apple is capable of humor?
[17:48:41] 	 lol
[17:48:59] 	 It has a strange behaviour with click events and :hover
[17:49:46] 	 If you just apply a :hover style to something the iPad will do nothing with it.
[17:50:49] 	 However curiously if you apply a :hover style to an element and then bind a click handler to it the iPad; When you touch that element the iPad will apply the :hover style to it.
[17:51:22] 	 However it's not as nice as it sounds
[17:51:49] 	 That's not a 'while being touched' apply... it's a 'once you tap the element, the iPad will display :hover'
[17:52:10] 	 As if the iPad gave that element a focus but applied :hover instead of :focus
[17:52:14] 	 However...
[17:52:36] 	 Tapping the element again will not disable :hover. Tapping random places on the screen will not disable :hover.
[17:52:50] 	 Only tapping specific kinds of areas will disable it.
[17:53:00] 	 'feature'
[17:53:19] 	 Basically anything that gives you that grey highlight box when you touch it
[17:56:38] 	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Moved maintenance script with stuff for both repo and client from repo to lib" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13485
[17:58:08] 	 ;) if you haven't caught on... this wreaks absolute havoc on attempts to provide a menu that uses :hover for js-less browsers but also has a click handler to let mouse-less browsers open a menu
[18:00:28] 	 ;) And to top it off touchend triggers the same behaviour, and using preventDefault in touchstart and touchend does nothing to make it stop using this behaviour
[18:00:45] 	 03(mod) enable mobile redirect broken on iOS - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38009  +comment (10Dave Yorke)
[18:01:48] 	 03(mod) $wgSharedDB PostgreSQL support - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/16794  +comment (10Luca Fulchir)
[18:06:11] 	 03(NEW) Watchlist reports large size changes, after more than 1 zero-length changes have occurred - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38086 normal; MediaWiki: Watchlist; (lexein-w)
[18:06:42] 	 ahh, my transliteration extension is almost complete
[18:08:13] 	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Fix the lib tests to run if the other tests have not been run first (by correctly populating the sites table)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13486
[18:14:36] 	 03(mod) internal error - Fatal exception of type MWException on file page access - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37978  +comment (10Yann Forget)
[18:19:28] 	 Hi everyone. Is $parser->updateCacheExpiry(-1); a sound thing to do to make sure the output of a parsed template is not being cache by MW?
[18:19:42] * Soli|away  is not really away..
[18:21:46] 	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Added missing type get method to ItemChange" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13487
[18:24:13] 	 03(mod) $wgSharedDB PostgreSQL support - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/16794  +comment (10Marcin Cieślak)
[18:26:46] 	 Change merged: Aude; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13486
[18:27:34] 	 Change merged: Aude; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13487
[18:30:59] 	 anyone ever run into issues with .htaccess rules and mediawiki? I have a rule that works in a folder that is not in mediawiki but in mediawiki it just 404s and I can't work out what's going on… :-(
[18:31:13] 	  hello, i had a mediawiki
[18:31:16] 	  running on postgresql 8.4 and
[18:31:18] 	  postgres got updated to 9.2
[18:31:20] 	  i've made the 110n table but i
[18:31:22] 	  get an objectcache not found
[18:31:24] 	 oops
[18:31:26] 	 sorry
[18:32:21] 	 i meant to ask, i had mediawiki running on postgres 8.4, updated postgres to 9.2 and ran the update.php script 
[18:32:33] 	 i made table 110n, but now i get the error here
[18:32:36] 	  hello, i had a mediawiki
[18:32:38] 	  running on postgresql 8.4 and
[18:32:40] 	  postgres got updated to 9.2
[18:32:42] 	  i've made the 110n table but i
[18:32:44] 	  get an objectcache not found
[18:32:46] 	 fack
[18:32:48] * trbotime  is a failure
[18:32:53] 	 here: wiki.udderweb.com
[18:36:23] 	 03(mod) Several history entries for the same content - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37225  +comment (10Rob Lanphier)
[18:37:51] 	 New patchset: Guillaume Beaudoin; "minor edit, expanding tabs from 4 spaces to tab." [mediawiki/extensions/Variables] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13488
[18:41:59] 	 03(mod) [performance regression]: Web server responds very slow to action=delete submissions in the File namespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34717  +comment (10Rob Lanphier)
[18:42:04] 	 New patchset: MarkTraceur; "Add in more privilege management stuff" [wikimedia/orgchart] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13489
[18:42:53] 	 Change merged: MarkTraceur; [wikimedia/orgchart] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13489
[18:46:06] 	 hi
[18:48:54] 	 Juandev: Hello!
[18:51:01] 	 I'm having trouble migrating an old JSP wiki to a new wikimedia. Can anyone help me?
[18:52:41] 	 New patchset: MarkTraceur; "Fix the close-details button/tab thing" [wikimedia/orgchart] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13490
[18:52:52] 	 Change merged: MarkTraceur; [wikimedia/orgchart] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13490
[18:53:53] 	 mwuser102: what is jsp?
[18:55:38] 	 Sorry, trying to figure out my question in the first place :) 
[18:55:38] 	 Is there any "templates package" that I could install that would provide {{warning:xxx}}, {{filename:xxx}}, {{menu:xxx}} etc, so that I don't have to code all the CSS from scratch?
[18:55:47] 	 14(DUP) Error by one on [[Special:Categories]] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38016  +comment (10Alexandre Emsenhuber [IAlex])
[18:55:53] 	 03(mod) Special:Categories should also include the first relevant item when "from" is filled - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/25095  +comment (10Alexandre Emsenhuber [IAlex])
[18:56:09] 	 03(mod) Allow caching for Revision::newFromTitle to reduce database load - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37030  +comment (10Rob Lanphier)
[18:56:39] 	 mwuser102: yes, that would be good
[18:57:35] 	 alkisg: I dont think so they are packed somewhere, but you may import simillar templates and change them
[18:58:55] 	 alkisg: problem with templates is that some of them depend on mw configuration.
[18:59:59] 	 Juandev: I tried to look/copy some from wikipedia, but they're too complex, they have too many levels of inlusion so I'd have to copy e.g. 20 templates just for a small {{keypress}} template...
[19:00:06] 	 Any hints on where to look for simpler templates?
[19:01:30] 	 alkisg: could you link some of the templates you would like to have?
[19:01:34] 	 I'm trying to migrate content from an older wiki to a newer one, one wiki is a JSP wiki, the other is a mediawiki. I found an automatic way of migrating an old jsp wiki to a mediawiki on http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Convert_JSPWiki_to_MediaWiki and was wondering if anyone had any experience with this and had some advice/insight as to how to approach this problem
[19:01:44] 	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Improve names of factory methods in ORMTable. Now its clear that they create rows and not tables" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13491
[19:02:38] 	 Juandev: e.g. here's the wikipedia keypress template: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Key_press
[19:02:42] 	 Juandev: jsp stands for java server pages
[19:02:52] 	 New patchset: John Erling Blad; "Additional changes to get the normalization right when requesting client side information, and also normalization of UTF8 and squashing whitespace." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13492
[19:02:59] 	 mwuser102: no, I havent encounter such problem
[19:04:22] 	 is there a way i can combine pages
[19:04:32] 	 show multiple pages together
[19:05:22] 	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Improve names of factory methods in ORMTable. Now its clear that they create rows and not tables" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13491
[19:05:43] 	 alkisg: I dont know much about templates, but there is a tool on wikimedia commons, which is generating raw code of a template with is inclusion. Which means, you can get working template from there
[19:06:04] 	 Juandev: Sounds very nice, link?
[19:06:13] 	 alkisg: have you tried to export that template with included templates?
[19:06:29] 	 Juandev: I'm not sure what "template exporting" means
[19:06:42] 	 alkisg: than you can cut off some standbying templates and see if they are necesary
[19:06:52] 	 alkisg: means special:export
[19:07:19] 	 please somebody help
[19:07:22] 	 Juandev: thanks, I'll try that :)
[19:07:28] 	 lunaticfaith: so, you want to show two pages on one?
[19:07:31] 	 i want to transclude multiple pages
[19:07:35] 	 yeah
[19:07:59] 	 Juandev: kind of like this
[19:08:25] 	 Juandev: this is page one http://quran.com/1/1
[19:08:42] 	 Juandev: and this is page two http://quran.com/1/2
[19:08:45] 	 lunaticfaith: havent tried that yet, but I would guess if you translude two pages you can skin them via CSS. have you tried to translude two pages?
[19:09:12] 	 Juandev: and together http://quran.com/1/1-2
[19:09:13] 	 Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13491
[19:09:25] 	 Juandev: i want dynamic funtionality
[19:09:46] 	 lunaticfaith: what does it mean dynamic functionality?
[19:09:47] 	 03(mod) EditPage::userNotLoggedInPage should have an optional "message" argument - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37995  +comment (10Alexandre Emsenhuber [IAlex])
[19:09:56] 	 03(mod) EditPage::userNotLoggedInPage should have an optional "message" argument - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37995  normal->15enhancement (10Alexandre Emsenhuber [IAlex])
[19:09:59] 	 Juandev: if somehow i can put pages in a category
[19:10:24] 	 Juandev: and then when i see that category page it will dynamically list all the pages
[19:10:49] 	 Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12702
[19:10:51] 	 New review: John Erling Blad; "Some cleanup to do.." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13492
[19:11:30] 	 lunaticfaith: I am not sure if I understand you well, but if you like to put page "dog" to the category "dogs", you edit the page and leave following in the code : [[Category:Dogs]]
[19:12:19] 	 lunaticfaith: depends on the language of your wiki if it is "category" - English, "categoría" - spanish, of whatever other language
[19:12:28] 	 lunaticfaith: transclusion is normaly as adding templates
[19:12:36] 	 Juandev: right, but when i open the category 'dogs', it will just list the page 'dog'. i want some descriptions too
[19:12:44] 	 as in google search results
[19:12:56] 	 lunaticfaith: description of that category?
[19:13:12] 	 Juandev: no description of the page.
[19:13:44] 	 lunaticfaith: so you basically do {{/subpage1}} {{/subpage2}} (if you have subpages enabled)
[19:14:11] 	 lunaticfaith: or you want to display list of categories within the page?
[19:14:34] 	 lunaticfaith: you can't transclude remote pages though
[19:14:45] 	 i want all the pages in a category combined on one page
[19:14:53] 	 lunaticfaith: desription of the page could be just on the page, but not in the category page
[19:15:14] 	 lunaticfaith: so you have to transclude them all manually the way i mentioned above
[19:15:24] 	 lunaticfaith: I dont think this is possible, maybe semantic MW allows that
[19:15:39] 	 Danny_B|backup: i want it automatic
[19:15:40] 	 there is no automatical way how to transclude all pages in given category
[19:15:58] 	 Danny_B|backup: I think he wants to translude cat list within the page
[19:15:59] 	 unlike there would be any extension for that which i am not aware of actually
[19:16:11] 	 Danny_B|backup: or better to say category within the page
[19:16:13] 	 i am using semantic mw but it dosen't allow
[19:16:25] 	 Juandev: nope, he wants to transclude all pages on one
[19:16:39] 	 lunaticfaith: better to ask such question on their IRC channel
[19:16:39] 	 Juandev: 21:14:45 < lunaticfaith> i want all the pages in a category combined on one page
[19:16:48] * Juandev  is looking for the same answer
[19:16:49] 	 03(mod) Parsoid: round-trip behavior switches - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37909  +comment (10Gabriel Wicke)
[19:16:54] 	 smw won't help
[19:16:56] 	 check this http://quran.com/1
[19:17:25] 	 every verse combined on a single page, in a chapter
[19:17:28] 	 lunaticfaith: i know what you mean
[19:17:37] 	 lunaticfaith: your link is wiki? It doesnt allow me to see special:version
[19:17:42] 	 but as i said above - undoable
[19:18:40] 	 should i go about developing an extension for achieving this functionality
[19:18:43] 	 Danny_B|backup: even if core is being manipulated? Because you can translude some special pages
[19:18:54] 	 lunaticfaith: that would be great
[19:19:34] 	 i found one extension which lists all the pages 'DynamicPageList' but it wont give any descriptions
[19:19:47] 	 lunaticfaith: there was something at wikt, where you can compare two versions of a page from two wikies
[19:19:56] 	 lunaticfaith: yup, it should not be that difficult, however, keep in mind you'd have to take care of order of transclusion - either by page title or by sortkey or anything else, so basically have a param for that to allow any of those
[19:20:00] 	 lunaticfaith: do you have a link?
[19:20:21] 	 http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:DynamicPageList_%28Wikimedia%29
[19:20:23] 	 lunaticfaith: dpl is doing just the list, not transclusions
[19:20:38] 	 lunaticfaith: oh, thx
[19:20:39] 	 i know
[19:20:42] * Juandev  looks
[19:20:51] 	 but i want the transclusions
[19:20:56] 	 Juandev: please do not confuse lunaticfaith with irrelevant things
[19:21:21] 	 Danny_B|backup: you, do not care of me, please
[19:21:39] 	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Matching changes in core" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13493
[19:22:04] 	 i need a 'relevance' sortkey instead of sorting by title or something, but thats whole other problem.
[19:22:23] 	 Juandev: i do not care about you, but i do care about lunaticfaith. i don't want him to be confused by misleading information
[19:22:26] 	 lunaticfaith: there is something on wikt wher two pages from two wikies are displayd on one page. But I dont know, how it works
[19:22:35] 	 Change merged: Aude; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13485
[19:22:48] 	 that's something totally different than lunaticfaith wants, Juandev 
[19:23:02] 	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Fix class name" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13495
[19:23:18] 	 lunaticfaith: you may take dpl as a base for your extension
[19:23:30] 	 because the principle will be almost the same
[19:23:38] 	 lunaticfaith: btw, If you need my help find me at query. And have a look at this to know: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Feel_persecuted_by_Danny_B.
[19:23:54] 	 lunaticfaith: thats the same guy as at this channel
[19:24:03] 	 Juandev: how is that related to technical help on this channel?
[19:24:09] 	 Danny_B|backup: I dont agree with you 
[19:24:14] 	 Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13495
[19:24:26] * Juandev  wawes elswhere
[19:30:30] 	 I would be happy, if you will take care of yourself and not me Danny_B|backup. Help to lunaticfaith and do not evalute me here, please.
[19:30:44] 	 MaxSem: I've been looking at this patch set for too long.   I can't find a way in MW to quickly get the entire result set from the DB abstraction and feed it back as an insert.
[19:31:06] 	 MaxSem: I think my foreach loop was bests, re-submitting.
[19:31:08] 	 :)
[19:31:12] 	 Danny_B|backup: this channel topic is "MediaWiki software support" not people evaluation
[19:31:23] 	 hexmode, nah - lemme fix it myself:)
[19:31:37] 	 MaxSem: even better !
[19:31:56] * hexmode  waits to see what MaxSem comes up  with
[19:32:18] 	 it's so simple
[19:32:51] 	 03(mod) Parsoid: round-trip category links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37908  +comment (10Gabriel Wicke)
[19:32:53] 	 It looks like it should be, yes.  But I never thought of myself as a SQL wizard.
[19:34:32] 	 (or really, any good at more than just a simple SELECT and/or INSERT)
[19:34:35] 	 03(mod) Parsoid: round-trip images - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37920  +comment (10Gabriel Wicke)
[19:35:09] 	 how can I list most visited pages? 
[19:38:34] 	 marktraceur: I noticed in one of the commit messages you're upgrading some privilege stuff.  Are you look at incorporating the whole LockDown into the core?
[19:38:54] 	 you can't. there is no such feature. and i am not aware of any extension allowing that. but it should not be such a big deal to write it, since it's a simple query. mind that it works only when you have counter enabled
[19:39:00] 	 Juandev: ^^
[19:39:11] 	 jdpond: Um, LockDown?
[19:39:32] 	 jdpond: Are you talking about Mediawiki? Because I'm working on a different project
[19:39:48] 	 Ahh, i was confused.  Sorry :)
[19:39:55] 	 jdpond: No problem!
[19:39:56] 	 Extension:lockdlown
[19:39:58] 	 Juandev: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Google_Analytics_Integration
[19:40:11] 	 New patchset: MaxSem; "Update migrateUserGroup to deal with primary key issue" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12223
[19:40:13] 	 Extension:lockdown make that
[19:40:13] 	 !e LockDown | jdpond
[19:40:14] 	 jdpond: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:LockDown
[19:40:35] 	 hexmode, ^^
[19:40:40] 	 Hm, lots of red on that page
[19:40:41] 	 The database did not find the text of a page that it should have found, named �MediaWiki� (revision#: 556937).
[19:40:46] 	 but... [Mark this page as patrolled]
[19:41:37] 	 Yeah, I'm one of the maintainers.  Was hoping it was going back into the core, but the philosophy has always been to keep EVERYTHING open, restrictions are for jackboot autocrats :)
[19:42:54] 	 Extension:NSFileRepo
[19:46:20] 	 New review: MarkAHershberger; "This isn't really worth a -1, but it looks like you're counting users twice now: once when the new g..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12223
[19:47:06] 	 Soli: that is not what I mean.
[19:47:47] 	 hi
[19:47:48] 	 I need to reload jenkins
[19:49:34] 	 Danny_B|backup: is there a manual to counter?
[19:50:20] * Juandev  really hates talk pages with liquid threads
[19:51:14] 	 Soli: in such case you have output in GA, but you cant get a list of these pages within MW page, can you?
[19:52:07] 	 hi
[19:52:12] 	 I need to reload hashar 
[19:52:14] 	 Where might one find a timeline of MediaWiki releases.. I'm looking for 1.3.0's release date
[19:52:22] 	 INFO: Jenkins is fully up and running
[19:52:31] 	 Juandev: That's correct. It's all on Google's site.
[19:52:44] 	 jenkins_: sure sure
[19:52:44] 	 INO
[19:53:12] 	 (-:
[19:54:06] 	 jubo2, http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Release_notes/1.3#1.3.0
[19:56:44] * hashar  reads 1.3.2
[19:56:48] 	 they were zoo nice
[19:57:14] 	 I love the 1.3.0 first entry * New default layout 'MonoBook' (available on PHP4 only currently)
[19:58:04] 	 brion: were you the one writing release notes back in that tie ?
[19:58:22] 	 probably
[19:58:58] 	 * More or less correct XHTML 1.0 (served as text/html by default)
[19:59:03] 	 ah remember when xhtml was the future?
[19:59:08] 	 yup
[19:59:17] 	 and having yellow page about missing />  ;-]
[19:59:22] 	 teehee
[19:59:36] 	 * Templates have been expanded with parameters, and separated from
[19:59:36] 	   the MediaWiki: localization scheme.
[19:59:39] 	 \o/
[19:59:42] 	 man that was a good release
[19:59:46] 	 I did use the xml type to spot any malformed html, did fix a lot of them while developing
[20:00:07] 	 in my opinion, 1.3.0 was the first really usable release
[20:00:16] 	 03(mod) WLM App getting started screen looks un styled for a second and then is ok - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38071  +comment (10Brion Vibber)
[20:00:20] 	 and 1.5.0 the real 1.0 :-]
[20:00:24] 	 :)
[20:00:28] 	 there are still some wikis running the 1.3 series out there...
[20:00:49] 	 doh
[20:01:03] 	 they will have fun upgrading!
[20:01:31] 	 I bet ;-)
[20:04:40] 	 do you guys see the point of having organized categories, if i use semantic?
[20:04:44] 	  creating categories inside categories like a breadcrumbs is a real pain
[20:05:08] 	 New patchset: MaxSem; "Bug 36453 - Provide the git info on action=query&meta=siteinfo" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13501
[20:07:30] 	 I justed upgraded my wiki from mediawiki 1.15 to 1.19 and I realized that the edit tags at the top of each section disappeared and there's just one edit tab at the top of the whole page, is there a way to fix that?
[20:10:06] 	 03(FIXED) Provide the git info on action=query&meta=siteinfo - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36453  +comment (10Max Semenik)
[20:10:42] 	 Hi folks, I'm writing a script and storing user preferences for that script in a seperate user js file. Why can't I use importscript to import that file directly from my script? Do the user has to import that (config) script from his MYPage/skin.js?
[20:10:55] 	 do you guys see the point of having organized categories, if i use semantic?
[20:10:56] 	  creating categories inside categories like a breadcrumbs is a real pain
[20:12:55] 	 03(mod) action=userrights: give error when user is not allowed to change userrights - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33732  summary (10Max Semenik)
[20:14:32] 	 ok jenkins works so I am out of here :)
[20:14:38] 	 have a nice weekend
[20:19:39] 	 03raymond *  10/trunk/extensions/ (8 files in 8 dirs): Localisation updates from http://translatewiki.net.
[20:19:50] 	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Split generic settings code off into it's own base class so we can put stuff in there without duplicating it for every extension." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13536
[20:38:01] 	 New patchset: MarkTraceur; "Fix a few bugs in print mode, and clean whitespace errors" [wikimedia/orgchart] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13537
[20:38:06] 	 nice message $ git reset --hard
[20:38:06] 	 HEAD is now at de13c31 Actually we have many contributors
[20:38:16] * marktraceur  exercises problemless git review with great aplomb
[20:38:32] 	 saper: Wow.
[20:38:37] 	 saper: In core?
[20:38:44] 	 yep
[20:39:26] 	 Haha, that is the best way to describe the change
[20:39:28] 	 03(ASSIGNED) Parsoid: round-trip category links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37908  (10Gabriel Wicke)
[20:39:33] 	 03(ASSIGNED) Parsoid: round-trip behavior switches - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37909  (10Gabriel Wicke)
[20:40:45] 	 03(ASSIGNED) Parsoid: round-trip images - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37920  (10Gabriel Wicke)
[20:40:46] 	 Change merged: MarkTraceur; [wikimedia/orgchart] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13537
[20:40:53] 	 03(mod) $wgSharedDB PostgreSQL support - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/16794  +comment (10Luca Fulchir)
[20:44:26] 	 I'm using the phpBBSSO extension http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Phpbb_Single_Sign-On and I want to port over what groups the phpbb user has into mediawiki as well.  Is there an easy way to do this (othen than pre-loading database files) programmatically?
[20:45:15] 	 I tried using $user->addGroup() in phpbSSO.php updateUser() but to no effect
[20:46:17] 	 New patchset: MarkTraceur; "Fix bug" [wikimedia/orgchart] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13538
[20:46:36] 	 Change merged: MarkTraceur; [wikimedia/orgchart] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13538
[20:49:15] 	 03(ASSIGNED) VisualEditor: bullet list breaking after changing window focus - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37810  +comment (10James F.)
[20:49:38] 	 03(FIXED) VisualEditor: bullet list breaking after changing window focus - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37810  +comment (10Christian Williams)
[20:50:18] 	 Hmm... Seems my addGroup hack now works, maybe needed a cache refresh
[20:50:32] 	 New patchset: Kaldari; "Fix for bug 31146 - replace colons with indented spans" [mediawiki/extensions/Poem] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13539
[20:50:39] 	 New review: Jpond; "Commit Message Changed, left redundant check for now" [mediawiki/extensions/NSFileRepo] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11730
[20:50:51] 	 Of course this duplicates the groups on the wiki side, I think.  So I would need to make sure removed groups are removed on the wiki as well...  Is there a better way to do this?
[20:51:52] 	 New patchset: Kaldari; "Fix for bug 31146 - replace colons with indented spans" [mediawiki/extensions/Poem] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13539
[20:58:30] 	 New review: Jpond; "Commit Message Changed, code ready for merge" [mediawiki/extensions/NSFileRepo] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11730
[20:58:32] 	 Change merged: Jpond; [mediawiki/extensions/NSFileRepo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11730
[20:59:00] 	 before upgrading to 1.19.1 i had "LocalSettings.php -> $wgGroupPermissions['*']['createaccount'] = false;" in order to disable registrations. i wound how should i disable those in new version
[20:59:11] 	 03(mod) Replace colons by em spaces at the beginning of verses inside poem tag - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31146  +comment (10Ryan Kaldari)
[21:02:15] 	 ok i'm a noob. it just depended from the fact i'm admin
[21:02:57] 	 New patchset: GWicke; "Escape ampersands in entities from plain text DOM content" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13540
[21:06:20] 	 New patchset: Jalexander; "change link to shop.wikimedia, should be close to ready." [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaShopLink] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13541
[21:06:30] 	 New patchset: GWicke; "Insert separation between adjacent pres" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13542
[21:09:50] 	 New review: Subramanya Sastry; "That was an easy fix :)" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13542
[21:10:14] 	 03(mod) Replace colons by em spaces at the beginning of verses inside poem tag - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31146  +comment (10Ryan Kaldari)
[21:11:25] 	 Change merged: GWicke; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13540
[21:16:44] 	 New patchset: GWicke; "Match named entities with up to eight chars" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13543
[21:25:09] 	 Change merged: GWicke; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13543
[21:25:11] 	 Change merged: GWicke; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13542
[21:26:35] 	 saper: Ha, warranted an email to wikitech? :P
[21:26:52] 	 why not
[21:27:13] 	 New review: CSteipp; "You may have an extra global defined, but not a huge deal." [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11590
[21:27:14] 	 New patchset: IAlex; "Deprecated Title::userIsWatching(); use User::isWatched() instead." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13544
[21:30:49] 	 03(FIXED) Parsoid / Serializer: Escape wikitext tags written by hand in VisualEditor interface - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33052  +comment (10Gabriel Wicke)
[21:32:27] 	 Hello, how remove index.php from url?
[21:34:18] 	 !short
[21:34:18] 	 There are multiple keys, refine your input: shorturl, shorturls, 
[21:34:34] 	 !shorturl | BrunoBatista 
[21:34:34] 	 BrunoBatista: To create simple URLs (such as the /wiki/PAGENAME style URLs on Wikimedia sites), follow the instructions at . There are instructions for most different webserver setups. If you have problems getting the rewrite rules to work, see !rewriteproblem
[21:39:41] 	 New patchset: GWicke; "Up entity name length limit even further" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13545
[21:39:56] 	 Change merged: GWicke; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13545
[21:44:49] 	 03(mod) VisualEditor toolbar doesn't follow viewport in Android browser - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33068  +comment (10Christian Williams)
[21:45:27] 	 Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13544
[21:46:56] 	 03(mod) $wgSharedDB PostgreSQL support - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/16794  +comment (10Marcin Cieślak)
[21:49:27] 	 03ezachte *  10/trunk/wikistats/MetricsReporting/analytics/AnalyticsPrepWikiCountsOutputCore.pl: new metric added : editor/contributor stats after merging edits from all 800+ so that every name is counted only once
[21:53:30] 	 New review: MaxSem; "Nope, that's the right way to count changed users: count(UPDATE) is for users without PK conflicts, ..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12223
[21:55:04] 	 About templates again... so there isn't a bundle that contains all those ? http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:Templates
[21:55:20] 	 I have to export/import them all one by one?
[21:55:30] 	 And the .png's too?
[21:57:07] 	 New patchset: MarkTraceur; "Add in compensation field" [wikimedia/orgchart] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13546
[21:58:19] 	 03(mod) Parsoid: Linking on a part of a word triggers linktrail - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33091  minor->normal (10Gabriel Wicke)
[21:58:54] 	 Change merged: MarkTraceur; [wikimedia/orgchart] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13546
[21:59:15] 	 03(mod) Parsoid: round-trip templates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37872  (10Gabriel Wicke)
[22:00:13] 	 Is there any way to have an extension hook into the isAllowed function in User.php ?
[22:01:41] 	 New patchset: Kaldari; "Making sure link click isn't propagated, moving wait message to an i18n message" [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13547
[22:02:43] 	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Parsoid needs to hint on each "internal" link as to the status of its target (redlink; stub; interwiki) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37902  (10Gabriel Wicke)
[22:03:18] 	 03(mod) Parsoid: round-trip images - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37920  (10Gabriel Wicke)
[22:04:35] 	 03(mod) Parsoid: round-trip unexpanded templates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37910  (10Gabriel Wicke)
[22:04:49] 	 03(mod) Parsoid: round-trip expanded templates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37911  (10Gabriel Wicke)
[22:06:09] 	 03(mod) Parsoid: support editing of behavior switches - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37909  summary (10Gabriel Wicke)
[22:06:46] 	 03(mod) Parsoid: support edting of category links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37908  summary (10Gabriel Wicke)
[22:07:18] 	 03(mod) Parsoid: support editing of behavior switches - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37909  (10Gabriel Wicke)
[22:08:02] 	 03(mod) Parsoid: return http error status codes when encountering errors in the web service - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37912  (10Gabriel Wicke)
[22:08:11] 	 03(mod) Parsoid / Serializer: strip the first paragraph tag in a list item or table cell context if there are no attributes on it and stx:html is not set - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37913  (10Gabriel Wicke)
[22:08:33] 	 03(mod) Parsoid / Web service: add oldid support to the web service to support retrieval of old revisions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37914  normal->15enhancement (10Gabriel Wicke)
[22:08:56] 	 03(mod) Parsoid / DOM: add a public link target attribute with same content as sHref to wikilinks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37916  normal->15enhancement (10Gabriel Wicke)
[22:13:02] 	 New patchset: MarkTraceur; "Fix another bug in the zoom code" [wikimedia/orgchart] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13548
[22:13:24] 	 Change merged: MarkTraceur; [wikimedia/orgchart] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13548
[22:14:00] 	 saper: Hmm, Barkeep is Ruby.....
[22:15:40] 	 Anyone got any experience with djvu files? I'm getting an error " Error creating thumbnail: Unable to fetch XML for DjVu file"
[22:23:19] 	 jgay: Happy 5 years of GPLv3! Great article :)
[22:25:05] 	 marktraceur, thanks! :-)
[22:26:00] 	 Dantman: would you have any idea why MessageCommons is being funky? specifically, I did a purge on Special:RecentChanges; before the purge, the RC was showing a customized Recentchangestext (from http://mwmsg.shoutwiki.com/wiki/MediaWiki:Recentchangestext/fi) but now it's not; instead, it's showing the MediaWiki default (and it doesn't seem to be minding my little $wgGrammarForms update either, hm)
[22:26:13] 	 New review: Kaldari; "Xml:elementClean seems like overkill here. Xml:element escapes XML special chars (<, >, &), while Xm..." [mediawiki/extensions/LastModified] (master); V: 0 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12838
[22:26:53] 	 ashley: Dunno, the message system has changed a lot
[22:27:59] 	 I tested it on another wiki -- just like on this particular, problematic wiki, my and the site's language is fi and no local Recentchangestext exists, but there it shows up..ugh
[22:28:55] 	 Also on this day 40 years ago, the death penalty became unconstitutional for four years
[22:31:38] 	 Ah, the good ol' days
[22:40:34] 	 New patchset: Reha Sterbin; "Refactored the javascript side of AFTv5 verification" [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13549
[22:41:22] 	 I have the "... within function "Revision::insertOn". MySQL returned error "1048: Column 'old_text' cannot be null issue after an upgrade on edits which seems to be a known problem related tp php version
[22:41:30] 	 I'm using 5.3.37
[22:42:03] 	 *the ... issue
[22:47:03] 	 JuanDaugherty, seems odd
[22:47:17] 	 old_text certainly, shall not be nulll
[22:47:40] 	 when I referred to it using the definite article I meant to indicate it has a web trail
[22:50:30] 	 New patchset: Reha Sterbin; "Refactored the javascript side of AFTv5 verification" [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13549
[22:51:03] 	 what version are you upgrading to?
[22:51:25] 	 a web search points to https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18170
[22:51:44] 	 and it seems to have been fixed in MediaWiki 1.15
[22:55:04] 	 03(mod) Handling of .js and .css pages post page move - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34930  summary; +comment (10MZMcBride)
[22:55:54] 	 New patchset: Siebrand; "Add GENDER support for 'checkuser-reset-action'." [mediawiki/extensions/CheckUser] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13550
[22:59:37] 	 Change merged: Kaldari; [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13286
[23:06:11] 	 Hi! I try to make field in my form that allows on or several of my predefined values. I list my values as checkboxes in the form, the problem is that it will only allow one of the values. Anyone good in this that can take a look at what I'm doing?
[23:07:18] 	 mats: Yeah! Do you have source code available somewhere?
[23:10:10] 	 Cool! Here is the property: http://globalbility.richardcarterconsultancy.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=Property:Postcard_tags&action=edit    And here is the form I try to make: http://globalbility.richardcarterconsultancy.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=Form:Postcard&action=edit    Here you can see the message I finally get at the bottom (a yellow exclamation mark):     http://globalbility.richardcarterconsultancy.com/wiki/POST:561903
[23:16:45] 	 mats: Maybe try using listbox?
[23:17:29] 	 I haven't worked with this before, so if that doesn't work I'm sorry :)
[23:24:37] 	 Ok - thanks for trying! If you think about defining the field as listbox I've tried it. I think the problem is that I use "Allows value" in the property, but not sure what to put to make it able to accept multiple values.
[23:28:46] 	 mats: What about the list parameter?
[23:36:28] 	 To you mean to define the boxes directly inside the form?
[23:40:36] 	 03(mod) Show images on image description page previews - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/11243  +comment (10Saibo)
[23:43:53] 	 03(mod) Show images on image description page previews - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/11243  +comment (10Saibo)