[00:01:54] <skierpage>	 Surgo, as I said I have no idea, but try static asset, HTML, PHP, then MediaWiki.  If you have the curl command-line utility, `curl --header 'Accept-Encoding: gzip' --head http://mysite/path`
[00:03:32] <Surgo>	 yeah, none of that compresses :/ even the static stuff not served up by php/mediawiki but should be compressed by lighttpd
[00:11:43] <wikibugs>	 03(FIXED) WLM App list of countries is not ordered by name - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38057  +comment (10Jon)
[00:14:09] <ZombieDan>	 Surgo: set zlib.output_compression to Off
[00:15:41] <Surgo>	 done, no change -- why would that have worked if it did?
[00:15:54] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Bsitu; [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14155
[00:16:22] <ZombieDan>	 Surgo: That setting enables php side stuff... stuff done outside of MediaWiki's control which could potentially stop MediaWiki itself from trying to gzip things.
[00:18:04] <Surgo>	 the thing that makes this so weird is that it comes back gzipped about 1 times in 10 or 15
[00:18:14] <Surgo>	 anyway, it didn't change anything :(
[00:18:19] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Improve malicious PDF detection - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38113  +comment (10Chris Steipp)
[00:20:02] <ZombieDan>	 Surgo: You sure those other 9-14 requests aren't 304s?
[00:20:33] <Surgo>	 I just did ctrl-shift-r (so it should have forced reloaded), everything's 200
[00:24:11] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Asher; "This version is better than patch set 2 but still not good enough. It is fast (<30ms) for the small ..." [mediawiki/extensions/DidYouKnow] (master); V: 0 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13937
[00:32:14] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Ogg video player should save volume setting - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/21890  (10Rob Lanphier)
[00:34:11] <Surgo>	 wow, really?
[00:34:13] <Surgo>	 upgrade php, start working
[00:36:55] <wikibugs>	 03(FIXED) Support full-width commas for pipe trick - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/21660  +comment (10Rob Lanphier)
[00:38:16] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Stopping media clips - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/18281  (10Rob Lanphier)
[00:38:16] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) cortado should provide API close to html5 <video> element - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/16519  (10Rob Lanphier)
[00:40:17] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Don't specify font-size in pixels or < 1em for usability - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/25257  +comment (10Matthew Brush)
[00:40:42] <sumanah>	 hi rbandrews 
[00:42:25] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Accessibility for embedded images - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34750  +comment (10Rex Schneider)
[00:42:33] <rbandrews>	 Hi Sumanah!
[00:43:43] <sumanah>	 rbandrews: I'm catching up with loads of email & requests etc. from my 2 weeks away from home. How are you?
[00:44:26] <sumanah>	 rbandrews: and of course at this very moment my spouse has handed me a bowl of freshly made pasta and would like to have dinner & TV with me
[00:44:47] <rbandrews>	 sumanah: I'm good! Haven't had a chance to write any docs yet; we've been really busy at work. I still plan on doing it though. :)
[00:44:50] <sumanah>	 We're watching Ken Burns's "Prohibition"
[00:44:53] <sumanah>	 oh thanks!
[00:45:03] <sumanah>	 I appreciate your intent and I will appreciate your effort :)
[00:45:06] <sumanah>	 back later.
[00:45:54] <Surgo>	 so, here's another question: is there any way to get images you use (for stuff like background-image, etc) in MediaWiki:Vector.css into the browser cache?
[00:46:15] <Surgo>	 the usual images go into the browser cache, but if I override any of them with MediaWiki:Vector.css to point to some other image, it doesn't appear cacheable
[00:49:47] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Tychay; "Apparently gerrit doesn't introspect my git --amend comment where I say ignore this patch as it does..." [mediawiki/extensions/DidYouKnow] (master) C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13937
[00:50:15] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Pages sometimes not appearing in categorytree (nor category) despite belonging to category - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38155 major; MediaWiki: Categories; (asaf.bartov)
[00:53:16] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Kaldari; "Making mark flyout title match page reviewed state, cleaning up some messages." [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14164
[01:19:55] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Kaldari; "Yep, it works now." [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14151
[01:42:11] <wikibugs>	 14(INVALID) Pages sometimes not appearing in categorytree (nor category) despite belonging to category - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38155  +comment (10MZMcBride)
[01:57:32] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Aaron Pramana; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11587
[01:57:33] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Aaron Pramana; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/10758
[02:17:42] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Kaldari; "This all looks good and seems to work. There are a couple minor typos in some comments. As soon as t..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14150
[02:27:22] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Kaldari; [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14151
[02:27:23] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Kaldari; [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14100
[02:51:25] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Aaron Pramana; "Revert "Watchlist grouping (not ready for review)"" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14165
[03:50:42] <aswamina>	 Hi. I am having troubles editing pages in media wiki. If i have to change the outlook of the front page of my media wiki, which file do i modify? 
[03:54:02] <Danny_B|backup>	 is your wiki publicly accessible?
[03:54:38] <aswamina>	 can anyone help? i want to add/modify css of the front page of my wikimedia. In the FAQs it says go to common.css but i dont have such a file in the downloaded version of mediawiki 1.19.0
[03:54:48] <aswamina>	 No. its pvt Danny
[03:54:59] <Danny_B|backup>	 Mediawiki:Common.css
[03:55:04] <Danny_B|backup>	 is the name
[03:55:15] <aswamina>	 Is it inside skins?
[03:55:32] <Amgine>	 No. It's an article in the wiki.
[03:55:41] <Danny_B|backup>	 no just edit the wiki page with that name
[03:55:47] <aswamina>	 where do i find it in the wikimedia foldeR?
[03:56:58] <samwilson>	 aswamina: it's not a file, it's a wiki page
[03:57:13] <aswamina>	 I just change it online? Not separately in the file in the server?
[03:59:26] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) WLM App description screen functionality - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38156 normal; WikiLoves Monuments Mobile: Upload; (philinje)
[04:00:27] <aswamina>	 Where do i find common.css in the wiki page? 
[04:00:35] <Brooke>	 aswamina: Right.
[04:00:35] <Brooke>	 "MediaWiki:Common.css" is a wiki page.
[04:00:35] <Brooke>	 Not a file.
[04:01:22] <aswamina>	 Thanks. My mistake. Where do i find common.css in the wiki page though?
[04:03:22] <Brooke>	 aswamina: You shouldn't edit the CSS files directly.
[04:03:28] <Mahmoud>	 hi - how to disable anonymous posts? i'm sick of spammers
[04:03:32] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) WLM App description screen functionality - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38156  +comment (10Phil Chang)
[04:03:35] <Brooke>	 You should edit "MediaWiki:Common.css" on your wiki and override any styling on the site.
[04:03:35] <Danny_B|backup>	 aswamina: just type in the search box mediawiki:common.css and hit enter
[04:03:50] <Brooke>	 !userrights
[04:03:50] <wm-bot>	 For information on customizing user access, see < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:User_rights >. For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access >.
[04:03:59] <Brooke>	 Mahmoud: ^
[04:05:09] <Mahmoud>	 so i should use the EditSubpages extension..
[04:05:22] <Mahmoud>	 ah, nvm.
[04:05:38] <Brooke>	 Mahmoud: No, just modify LocalSettings.php a bit.
[04:05:39] <aswamina>	 Thank you guys. Just got the whole picture. this discussion forum is very useful
[04:05:46] <Brooke>	 You can take away the 'createpage' right from everyone.
[04:05:53] <Brooke>	 And give it to particular user groups.
[04:06:19] <Brooke>	 aswamina: The idea is that you make changes to the wiki page rather than the actual files to avoid losing the changes when you upgrade.
[04:06:22] <Mahmoud>	 yeah, got it.
[04:06:24] <Brooke>	 Plus wiki pages have page histories.
[04:06:58] <Mahmoud>	 i'm extremely surprised by how eager spammers are. waiting a few seconds results into creating 2-3 pages
[04:07:04] <aswamina>	 Yes. its awesome to work with . It makes things so much simpler when you have made a mistake :)
[04:07:20] <Brooke>	 !spam | Mahmoud 
[04:07:21] <wm-bot>	 Mahmoud: For information about combating and handling spam in MediaWiki, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Combating_spam> and <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Anti-spam_features>.
[04:07:35] <Brooke>	 Spam is annoying; film at 11.
[04:11:11] <Mahmoud>	 done; no one can create pages! thanks
[04:13:26] <Mahmoud>	 for bulk page deletion, i just did delete from page;
[04:14:03] <Mahmoud>	 an sql query. guess i should delete the associated tables too? e.g. text?
[04:15:49] <Brooke>	 Mahmoud: You really, really shouldn't do that.
[04:16:10] <Mahmoud>	 heh, yeah, it is very clumsy. i'll be replacing wikimedia with something far more minimalist for my need
[04:16:11] <Brooke>	 MediaWiki is a big relational database.
[04:16:34] <Mahmoud>	 "it" refered to my approach of deletion (i.e. not mediawiki)
[04:16:53] <Brooke>	 MediaWiki has a UI for deleting pages.
[04:16:55] <Brooke>	 And an API.
[04:17:03] <Brooke>	 And maintenance scripts.
[04:17:14] <Mahmoud>	 i didn't find a bulk deleter in the UI when i looked at it
[04:17:15] <Brooke>	 All of those are profoundly smarter to use than trying to manipulate the database yourself.
[04:17:28] <Brooke>	 !e Nuke
[04:17:29] <wm-bot>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Nuke
[04:17:37] <Mahmoud>	 see, it needs an extension
[04:17:50] <Brooke>	 Right... most people don't need bulk deletion.
[04:18:05] <Mahmoud>	 yep. mediawiki is great.
[04:18:21] <Mahmoud>	 it's just that i used it as a simple CMS
[04:18:46] <Mahmoud>	 i'll move to nginx with completely static pages, or at least my own ninja cron jobs that do the magic
[04:20:17] <TimStarling>	 if you deleted the page row and want to clean up the rest of the tables, here is the easy way to do it:
[04:20:30] <TimStarling>	 1. recreate the page row exactly the way it was
[04:20:38] <TimStarling>	 2. use maintenance/deleteBatch.php
[04:21:41] <Mahmoud>	 i deleted thousands of pages
[04:21:51] <Brooke>	 Sort of.
[04:22:19] <Mahmoud>	 but anyway, i was the wrong user for the right tool. i shouldn't have dragged myself into mediawiki for the scenario i had
[05:51:00] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Fix small typo in comment" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14168
[05:58:26] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Catrope; "Looks good, but not merging yet due to comments on I2e0494603af9e3a8351a8c61e9b814f0093e422b" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12720
[05:59:32] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jpostlethwaite; "(features/version-1.0) Fixing UnitTest to work with other extensions." [mediawiki/extensions/UnitTest] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14169
[06:00:55] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Catrope; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12683
[06:11:24] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Catrope; "jquery.byteLimit: Partial rewrite to fix logic errors" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12713
[06:16:41] <aswamina>	 Hi. i had copy pasted the code given in the FAQs inside Mediawiki:common.css to make the navigation bar go away. But the code i type is just coming as text in the page. it doesnt make a difference to the page layout.
[06:16:43] <aswamina>	 please help
[06:16:59] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Catrope; "(bug 31895) Fix bug in mediawiki.js with early domready handlers." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12721
[06:17:18] <RoanKattouw>	 aswamina: Could you give me a link to wiki?
[06:17:40] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Catrope; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12713
[06:17:40] <aswamina>	 its not public, i am still editting it in the localhost only.
[06:17:58] <RoanKattouw>	 What is the code you put in there?
[06:18:12] <aswamina>	 #column-content { margin: 0 0 .6em 0; } #content { margin: 2.8em 0 0 0; } #p-logo, .generated-sidebar, #p-lang, #p-tb, #p-search { display:none; } #p-cactions { left: .1em; }
[06:18:21] <aswamina>	 same thing given in the FAQs.
[06:18:25] <RoanKattouw>	 OK that looks like it should work
[06:18:36] <aswamina>	 i pasted it in the Mediawiki:common.css file.
[06:18:39] <RoanKattouw>	 It should at least hide the search if nothing else
[06:18:46] <aswamina>	 but the code is appearing in the page.
[06:18:47] <RoanKattouw>	 In the MediaWiki:Common.css wiki page you mean?
[06:18:54] <aswamina>	 yes
[06:18:56] <RoanKattouw>	 Yes, the code is supposed to appear on the page
[06:19:08] <aswamina>	 Ok. but the navigation toolbar?
[06:19:21] <RoanKattouw>	 If you visit other pages and do a hard refresh (Shift + refresh button in most browsers) you should see the search bar disappear at least
[06:19:43] <aswamina>	 The icon and the toolbox below disappeared.
[06:19:43] <RoanKattouw>	 I don't know about the navigation toolbar because I don't know the CSS IDs for things very well, but #p-search is obvious
[06:19:52] <aswamina>	 but the navigation options are still present
[06:20:07] * Lcawte  goes to work out what time it is in the US o.o

[06:20:57] <RoanKattouw>	 Aha
[06:21:01] <Lcawte>	 Oh, right, its almost today over there... I thought someone was up at crazy times...
[06:21:13] <RoanKattouw>	 So the code that you have hides the search bar, the logo and the "toolbox" (with the What links here links and stuff)
[06:21:18] <RoanKattouw>	 What else did you want to hide?
[06:21:29] <RoanKattouw>	 Lcawte: Yeah it's 11:21pm here on the West Coast
[06:21:38] * RoanKattouw  gets ready for a patriotic holiday in 39 minutes

[06:21:42] <aswamina>	 The navigation links on the left.
[06:21:58] <RoanKattouw>	 Main page, Recent changes, that stuff?
[06:22:03] <aswamina>	 Yes.
[06:22:12] <RoanKattouw>	 OK, that's #p-navigation
[06:22:27] <RoanKattouw>	 So you need to add #p-navigation to the comma-separated list that contains #p-tb and #p-search
[06:23:05] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Catrope; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12721
[06:23:08] <Lcawte>	 I'm upset, the British don't get a holiday like 4th of July... meh, downsides of ruling 1/3 of the planet ^.^
[06:24:35] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Catrope; [mediawiki/tools/release] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12888
[06:24:48] <RoanKattouw>	 Well you have 11/11 ... oh wait we get that off too
[06:24:49] <aswamina>	 RoanKattouw, i added, its still not hiding the navigation links 
[06:25:09] <RoanKattouw>	 I'm surprised you guys don't celebrate the Queen's birthday, the Dutch do
[06:25:15] <RoanKattouw>	 aswamina: What do you have now?
[06:25:41] <aswamina>	 the same. all others not appearing. But even after i have added #p-navigation, the links still do appear
[06:26:46] <RoanKattouw>	 What if you click the refresh button while holding Shift?
[06:27:13] <aswamina>	 Still the same.
[06:27:21] <aswamina>	 Not working :(
[06:27:24] <RoanKattouw>	 What is on the CSS page now?
[06:28:37] <aswamina>	 Oh. done! :) it worked. dont know how. I did the same thing last time as well. 
[06:28:41] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Catrope; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14017
[06:28:43] <aswamina>	 Thank you so much. 
[06:28:56] <RoanKattouw>	 Yay
[06:29:14] <aswamina>	 Can you also tell how i can make the body's div 100% of the page and not just starting from a point away from the margin.
[06:34:23] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Santhosh; "Fix the search icon location in search field." [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14171
[06:42:44] <Nikerabbit>	 morning
[06:50:37] <jubo2>	 g'morning Nikerabbit
[06:50:51] <jubo2>	 I am very interested in translatewiki.net
[06:52:58] <jubo2>	 Looks very good.. What additional from existing documentation [[mw:Universal Language Selector]] .. is the "trailer=/en" ability to choose languageversions available in normal use and not just RecentChanges ?
[06:59:32] <jubo2>	 Nikerabbit: what extension provides the ability to define "trailer=/fi" if I want to see only the articles that end in "fi/" ?
[06:59:43] <jubo2>	 err */fi
[07:00:32] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Santhosh; "A minor issue in a test description." [mediawiki/extensions/Narayam] (master); V: 0 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14091
[07:24:41] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Remove liquidthreads_labswikimedia from config - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38157 normal; Wikimedia: Site configuration; (federicoleva)
[07:40:34] <Nikerabbit>	 jubo2: cleanchanges + translate
[07:45:11] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Nikerabbit; "I kind of see the point but there are some major annoyances doing it in the way you suggest:" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11836
[07:50:26] <jubo2>	 Extension:Language selector ( or is that depracated in favor of Universal Language Selector ?
[07:52:02] <wikibugs>	 03(ASSIGNED) hack Jenkins to test MobileFrontend (PHPUnit + Qunit) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37276  +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[07:53:21] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Siebrand; "Now uses resource loader." [mediawiki/extensions/GoogleAdSense] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14174
[07:54:58] <wikibugs>	 03(FIXED) [TestSwarm] rename git jobs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36143  +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[08:03:45] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Dependency graph points to localhost:8080 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35982  +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[08:03:50] <ericb2>	 hello
[08:04:42] <ericb2>	 is it possible to make a wiki not visible from all the web. I mean : acceed it through a login / password ?
[08:05:11] <jubo2>	 ericb2: .htaccess and .htpasswd in the wiki-directory perhaps ?
[08:05:13] <marktraceur>	 ericb2: Apache has mod_auth for that
[08:05:49] <ericb2>	 marktraceur: jubo2 ah, thanks. I'll investigate :-)
[08:06:22] <jubo2>	 ericb2: look for documentation on apache .htaccess files
[08:07:18] <ericb2>	 jubo2: will do. thanks 
[08:08:14] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Dependency graph points to localhost:8080 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35982  +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[08:09:13] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Dependency graph points to localhost:8080 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35982  +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[08:12:48] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14161
[08:14:57] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/GoogleAdSense] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14174
[08:24:32] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Nikerabbit; "I don't have iAnything to test" [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master); V: 0 C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14171
[08:32:04] <siebrand>	 Need a little help analyzing something.
[08:32:14] <siebrand>	 Looks like edit summaries no longer work on master.
[08:32:35] <siebrand>	 Easy test case: https://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=User:Siebrand&action=edit, try to fill out the edit summary field.
[08:32:47] <siebrand>	 It can get focus, but you cannot edit content.
[08:33:07] <siebrand>	 I thought about filing a bug, but this probably should be fixed by a revert.
[08:33:29] <siebrand>	 Anyone who can confirm this on a clean installation?
[08:37:22] <hashar>	 siebrand: I can try out
[08:37:24] <hashar>	 which browser?
[08:37:45] <siebrand>	 hashar: I'm using FF13/OSX
[08:37:53] <p858snake|l>	 same for me in chrome
[08:37:55] <siebrand>	 hashar: but Nikerabbit just confirmed it.
[08:38:02] <hashar>	 good
[08:38:10] <hashar>	 so we want to find out the commit that caused the issue
[08:38:13] <hashar>	 git bisect for the win :-]
[08:38:26] <hashar>	 maybe open a bug too
[08:38:26] <siebrand>	 So the only thing to find out left is if it may be a "twn only" issue.
[08:38:52] <hashar>	 works for me on master
[08:38:59] <siebrand>	 I'll open a bug.
[08:38:59] <hashar>	 though I don't have the pretty editor
[08:39:43] <hashar>	 also note your page is protected [View source]
[08:40:54] <siebrand>	 I'm reporting the issue for https://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=User:Siebrand/test15&action=edit
[08:41:01] <Nikerabbit>	 it might also be because of wgHtml5
[08:41:03] <siebrand>	 That's a non-protected empty page.
[08:41:14] <siebrand>	 Was there a change in that recently?
[08:41:23] <hashar>	 that test15 I can edit it
[08:41:37] <siebrand>	 Doesn't work for me, hashar 
[08:41:38] <p858snake|l>	 Nikerabbit: if its a html5 validation rule (against the text box) chrome should show a red angry border iirc
[08:41:46] <hashar>	 trying FF
[08:41:46] <qchris>	 Test1[ works for me (FF9/Linux)
[08:42:00] <siebrand>	 checking Opera
[08:42:04] <siebrand>	 (and Safari)
[08:42:38] <hashar>	 with FF13, Mac Os on test15, I can edit the text area on https://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=User:Siebrand/test15&action=edit
[08:42:54] <hashar>	 maybe a preference issue?
[08:43:03] <siebrand>	 Works in Safari 5.1.7/OSX
[08:43:06] <p858snake|l>	 hashar: text area, or edit summary?
[08:43:15] <hashar>	 ohh sorry
[08:43:23] * siebrand  pats hashar on the head.

[08:43:38] <hashar>	 the summary I can focus in it but not input anything indeed ahah
[08:43:39] <hashar>	 sorry
[08:44:00] <qchris>	 I can edit them of Opera 11.60/Linux
[08:44:08] <siebrand>	 Works in Opera 12.00/OSX
[08:44:46] <hashar>	 same on my local comp 
[08:44:51] <Nikerabbit>	 the jquery bytelength module was recently updated
[08:44:53] <Nikerabbit>	 I'd start from that
[08:44:59] <siebrand>	 Fails in Chrome Versie 21.0.1180.15 dev/OSX
[08:45:41] <siebrand>	 Fails in Firefox13.0.1/OSX.
[08:46:23] <siebrand>	 So fails on recent Chrome and Firefox in OSX. Works in recent Safari, Opera  What other browsers/OSs fail?
[08:46:30] <hashar>	 I am bisecting the issue
[08:46:50] * siebrand  pictures hashar hanging over a corpse with all kinds of funky tools.

[08:48:22] <hashar>	 found the winner
[08:48:36] <hashar>	 the bisect log  http://dpaste.org/nDMtU/
[08:48:42] <hashar>	 winner is I9ace3ab79f488d24ad13baace32118c151c06347
[08:49:06] <hashar>	 siebrand https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/12713/
[08:49:21] <hashar>	 that is indeed what Nikerabbit was pointing
[08:49:32] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Edit summary field cannot be edited on some browsers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38158 blocker; MediaWiki: Page editing; (s.mazeland)
[08:50:09] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Siebrand; "Revert "jquery.byteLimit: Partial rewrite to fix logic errors"" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14175
[08:50:13] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Hashar; "Cause Bug 38158 - Edit summary field cannot be edited on some browsers" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12713
[08:50:28] <siebrand>	 hashar: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/14175/
[08:50:39] <azi`_>	 ie. not to show $e^{\pi}$ in the title but the rendered text
[08:50:43] <azi`_>	 yes. i'am reasking this. is there a way to let mediawiki parse math in titles of pages?
[08:50:51] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Edit summary field cannot be edited on some browsers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38158  +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[08:50:59] * azi`_  started copy pasting the question from the chat history

[08:52:03] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Edit summary field cannot be edited on some browsers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38158  +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[08:52:21] <hashar>	 siebrand: I am running a firefox instance to run tests
[08:52:41] <hashar>	 the QUnit for that commit did not run on firefox https://integration.mediawiki.org/testswarm/job/3592/ 
[08:52:50] <hashar>	 oh no
[08:52:53] <hashar>	 they did on fx13
[08:52:54] <hashar>	 grr
[08:56:09] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Edit summary field cannot be edited on some browsers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38158  04BLOCKER->major; +comment (10Siebrand)
[08:56:39] <siebrand>	 hashar: merge https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/14175/ ?
[08:57:00] <hashar>	 yup reviewing
[08:57:36] <hashar>	 and waiting for JS tests http://integration.mediawiki.org/testswarm/job/3596/
[08:58:56] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: IAlex; "No need to wrap the result of DatabaseBase::select() in a ResultWrapper object." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14176
[09:00:37] <hashar>	 siebrand: and one day we will have the new testswarm : http://integration.wmflabs.org/testswarm/user/mediawiki  ;-)
[09:00:42] <hashar>	 krinkle has been doing a nice job there
[09:01:15] <siebrand>	 hashar: oh, nice!
[09:01:23] <siebrand>	 hashar: I haven't been running js tests lately.
[09:01:33] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Hashar; "Related testswarm tests : http://integration.mediawiki.org/testswarm/job/3596/" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14175
[09:01:37] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Hashar; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14175
[09:01:50] <hashar>	 siebrand: we are going to use BrowserStack which provides millions of virtual instances to test with :-D
[09:01:59] <hashar>	 basically we can test any browser time any OS
[09:02:07] <hashar>	 like Opera mobile on a nokia phone :-)
[09:02:17] <hashar>	 or IE5.5 on windows XP
[09:02:24] <siebrand>	 sweet.
[09:02:29] <hashar>	 merged
[09:02:37] <hashar>	 so you can update twn.net to latest master that will fix it
[09:03:17] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Hashar; "Reverted by Siebrand with I1fe6a6c6 | https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14175" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12713
[09:03:38] <hashar>	 siebrand: I will let you close bug :-]
[09:19:02] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Adding notion of local and non-local langlinks so we can obtain them from an external repo while not overiding them on every parse" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14084
[09:21:23] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Jenkins job: PHP code style analyzer - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35588  +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[09:29:15] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Namespaces names in Silesian - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34988  (10przemub)
[09:32:35] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Daniel Werner; "hiding contentSub and mw-jump elements specifically on the item page removing the layout gap" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14038
[09:35:36] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: IAlex; "Pass objects to methods accepting them instead of relying on global objects." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14177
[09:41:09] <bonsaikitten>	 so ... what's the easiest way to do something like "replace all occurances of foo with bar" through the api?
[09:41:29] <bonsaikitten>	 I've not found a good way to get the raw content of the page out so I can just replace and shove that back in
[09:41:49] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Henning Snater; "Language stickiness now causes cache fragmentation." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14073
[09:42:12] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: IAlex; "Fix parameter name: $displayText does not exist, but $altUserName does." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14178
[09:43:43] <_Meow>	 bonsaikitten: If you want to replace all occurances in the whole wiki, maybe an extension is better.
[09:44:03] <bonsaikitten>	 _Meow: I actually want to change a few strings programmatically
[09:44:13] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Adding ll_local to languagelinks table." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14084
[09:44:30] <bonsaikitten>	 _Meow: but now I'm getting really frustrated with the api edit nonsense
[09:45:04] <bonsaikitten>	 (to be more precise: I want to add a semantic mediawiki property with a calculated value to a nontrivial amount of pages)
[09:45:24] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Daniel Werner; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14038
[09:45:40] <bonsaikitten>	 (so: add the string [[Foo:Bar]] to a page without editing the other bits)
[09:47:06] <_Meow>	 Sorry for not being able to help
[09:48:12] <bonsaikitten>	 grml :)
[09:48:31] <bonsaikitten>	 it's surprisingly difficult to get the raw data out of the wiki
[09:56:36] <jubo2>	 bonsaikitten: I am looking for  something very similar to what you are looking for ( adding calculated stats automatically to a non-trivial amount of articles )
[09:58:07] <jubo2>	 bonsaikitten: like the http://develop.consumerium.org/wiki/Consumerium:Metrics
[09:58:29] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Hashar; "Added wikitext parsertests for dashes" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14066
[09:58:34] <bonsaikitten>	 jubo2: for me calculating that data is "trivial", now I just need to add one line to the raw wiki page
[09:58:56] <bonsaikitten>	 and the edit api doesn't give me an obvious way to fetch the raw stuff without xml-in-html-in-xml braindamage
[09:59:29] <jubo2>	 bonsaikitten: there are apparently many ways you could go about doing that
[09:59:36] <jubo2>	 afk
[10:00:11] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Add import source for dewikiversity - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38159 normal; Wikimedia: Site configuration; (raimond.spekking)
[10:00:26] <bonsaikitten>	 jubo2: I hope you can point me at one or more when you are back
[10:01:08] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "added further selenium tests you'll need to register an additional user, see configuration.yml.sample" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14179
[10:04:13] <wikibugs>	 03(FIXED) Article Feedback - Suppression Log Formatting Issues - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37759  (10Matthias Mullie)
[10:04:37] <wikibugs>	 03(FIXED) Scale AFT tables to support 10% deploy - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37707  (10Matthias Mullie)
[10:05:13] <wikibugs>	 03(FIXED) Feedback form option 6 presentation wrong in overlay mode - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37784  (10Matthias Mullie)
[10:07:13] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Hashar; "Patchset 3 is a rebase" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14066
[10:07:18] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Hashar; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14066
[10:07:23] <wikibugs>	 03(FIXED) Article Feedback - Bucketing for CTAs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38019  (10Matthias Mullie)
[10:07:37] <wikibugs>	 03(FIXED) Article Feedback Page - New call to action below page title - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37953  (10Matthias Mullie)
[10:08:01] <wikibugs>	 03(FIXED) Article Feedback - Turn off all click-tracking - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38112  (10Matthias Mullie)
[10:08:56] <wikibugs>	 03(FIXED) Article Feedback - 'View Activity' does not appear in Editor's view - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37950  (10Matthias Mullie)
[10:09:06] <wikibugs>	 03(FIXED) Article Feedback - My Contributions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36773  (10Matthias Mullie)
[10:11:09] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Add import source for dewikiversity - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38159  +comment (10Raimond Spekking)
[10:11:46] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) "Learn more" links on actions need to link to the help materials - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37434  (10Matthias Mullie)
[10:15:34] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) unreadble text in article feedback due to weird color choosing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37806  +comment (10Matthias Mullie)
[10:18:30] <wikibugs>	 03(FIXED) flag count not updated when unflagging a post - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37594  (10Matthias Mullie)
[10:18:59] <wikibugs>	 03(FIXED) The drop-down menu for filters is not opening initially with Google Chrome - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37592  (10Matthias Mullie)
[10:19:07] <wikibugs>	 03(FIXED) Article Feedback - Special Display for IPv6 Addresses - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37580  (10Matthias Mullie)
[10:20:33] <wikibugs>	 03(FIXED) Article Feedback - 'View reader feedback' link on the Talk page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36502  (10Matthias Mullie)
[10:21:06] <wikibugs>	 03(FIXED) Article Feedback Page - Activity Log: Fix Text Color - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38021  (10Matthias Mullie)
[10:21:14] <wikibugs>	 03(FIXED) give "confirmed" users same AFT privileges as "autoconfirmed" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37998  (10Matthias Mullie)
[10:22:04] <wikibugs>	 03(FIXED) Patchwork message - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37098  (10Matthias Mullie)
[10:26:45] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Article Feedback 5 - CTA4 container collapsing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38160 normal; MediaWiki extensions: ArticleFeedbackv5; (mmullie)
[10:27:05] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Article Feedback 5 - CTA4 container collapsing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38160  (10Matthias Mullie)
[10:27:11] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Henning Snater; "Unit tests are failing." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14073
[10:28:42] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Hashar; "related TestSwarm job is http://integration.mediawiki.org/testswarm/job/3559/ " [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14057
[10:29:08] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Article Feedback 5 - CTA5 missing header "thanks! your feedback has been posted here" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38161 normal; MediaWiki extensions: ArticleFeedbackv5; (mmullie)
[10:29:16] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Article Feedback 5 - CTA5 missing header "thanks! your feedback has been posted here" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38161  (10Matthias Mullie)
[10:29:39] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Article Feedback 5 - CTA5 missing header "thanks! your feedback has been posted here" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38161  (10Matthias Mullie)
[10:33:27] <wikibugs>	 04(REOPENED) Article Feedback - 'View Activity' does not appear in Editor's view - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37950  (10Matthias Mullie)
[10:33:36] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Article Feedback - 'View Activity' does not appear in Editor's view - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37950  (10Matthias Mullie)
[10:42:06] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Setting labels should normalize some things, API should return the actual label on success (5) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36439  (10jeblad)
[10:47:53] <wikibugs>	 03(FIXED) unreadble text in article feedback due to weird color choosing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37806  +comment (10matanya)
[10:49:22] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: John Erling Blad; "Solves part of https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37776 (not for aliases) and https://ge..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14032
[10:52:51] <JeroenDeDauw>	 Where are tests in core registered again?
[10:53:41] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Jens Ohlig; "Works." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14179
[10:53:43] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Jens Ohlig; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14179
[10:59:10] <qchris>	 JeroenDeDauw: Are you looking for $wgHooks['UnitTestsList'][] = '...' (i.e.: an extension registering PHPUnit tests in core)?
[11:08:11] <JeroenDeDauw>	 qchris: no, I'm looking for what to do to register the stuff in core
[11:08:18] <JeroenDeDauw>	 So how to register tests that are in core
[11:08:37] <qchris>	 Just put them unterneath tests/phpunit/...
[11:08:57] <JeroenDeDauw>	 qchris: then how does MW know about them? Does it loop through the dir or what?
[11:09:17] <qchris>	 More or less: yes.
[11:09:26] <qchris>	 Just look at tests/phpunit/suite.xml
[11:10:01] <qchris>	 There you see the setup of the testsuite that is used
[11:10:39] <qchris>	 If you add a new directory unterneath tests/phpunit (e.g.: tests/phpunit/foo) you need to register it there
[11:12:50] <qchris>	 If you want to check whether or not your test gets included, Try running './phpunit.php --debug' and grep for the test case name. Or you might also --filter for it
[11:19:14] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Allow per-user or per-group exemptions from the use of CheckUser - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28363  -patch-need-review  (10Max Semenik)
[11:19:57] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Setting labels should normalize some things, API should return the actual label on success (5) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36439  (10jeblad)
[11:23:02] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Freakolowsky; "I think you're using too generic item class names" [mediawiki/extensions/ConventionExtension] (master) C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14055
[11:37:56] <Danwe_WMDE>	 is there any hook after 'BeforePageDisplay', where I can modify the ENTIRE Html (including skin), not just the page output? 
[11:40:31] <Danwe_WMDE>	 apparently not, just debugged it, watching Hooks::run
[11:40:58] <druid>	 Hey
[11:41:19] <druid>	 Is there an extension that ease articles creation/edition ?
[11:41:27] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Edit summary field cannot be edited on some browsers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38158  +comment (10Krinkle)
[11:41:33] <druid>	 i'd like it to be the simplest for my users
[11:45:35] <Danwe_WMDE>	 druid: what's not simple about article creation?
[11:47:11] <druid>	 Well i think it'd be simpler for them to have buttons like "create page" or "add menu entry" or whatever
[11:47:42] <druid>	 they're reluctant to use a wiki for the team and i'm starting the project on my own in order to show it's actually a good idea
[11:48:05] <druid>	 It'd be harder for me to convince them if they think it's not easy enough to use
[11:48:51] <jubo2>	 druid: there are..
[11:49:20] <jubo2>	 druid: there is an extension that puts skeletons for articles
[11:49:42] <druid>	 jubo2: there's none on the main page
[11:50:01] <toresbe>	 Hey! If there's anyone who has the ability to commit a change, would you please look at "languages/messages/MessagesNb.php", where 'logentry-newusers-create' is missing a space in between "opprettet" and "en"?
[11:50:51] <druid>	 jubo2: what's the name of that extension please?
[11:51:31] <jubo2>	 druid: there is an extension that hides all empty <!-- comments count as empty --> sections so you can place huge full article skeleton and only the == Section == with content are shown in wiki rendering
[11:51:48] <jubo2>	 druid: hold on.. I get it from my wiki..
[11:52:32] <jubo2>	 druid: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:HideEmptySections is what it says
[11:53:46] <jubo2>	 druid: this could also be relevant for your use case
[11:53:48] <jubo2>	 http://develop.consumerium.org/wiki/MediaWiki/extensions#Create_Page.2C_CreateAPage_and_CreateArticle
[11:54:20] <jubo2>	 they are basically textboxes "enter article name" and button "create" but there is potential
[11:55:55] <druid>	 thx jubo2 , i'll check that later on
[11:57:36] <jubo2>	 druid: I'm sorry, I am unable to find the extension that inserts stuff into the edit box .. it works like charm ( at least in theory ) with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?go=Go&search=mw:Extension:HideEmptySections
[11:58:53] <druid>	 i'm actually trying to figure out how to set menus to my pages on the left of my pages (where there's main page, browse categories etc)
[11:58:58] <jubo2>	 it inserts on ( at least ) a namespace basis and there are more fine grained control over what kind of article skeleton goes where.. then the users have to just add blood, tissues and tendons to the skeleton and presto, you've a wiki article
[11:59:12] <druid>	 i'm looking at the doc but i don't really know where or what to check
[11:59:18] <jubo2>	 druid: sidebar is it's name iianm
[12:00:23] <jubo2>	 druid: sidebar can be controlled from JavaScript if I am not mistaken.. there must also be a $wgVariable ..
[12:00:55] <jubo2>	 could be in the skins too
[12:01:26] <jubo2>	 JavaScript or Skins or $wgSidebarItems[] or something, druid
[12:01:59] <druid>	 Hum, that's not really user friendly
[12:02:04] <druid>	 thx again jubo2
[12:02:32] <jubo2>	 druid: but it is.. there are many ways to do things
[12:03:53] <jubo2>	 Il y a beaucoup des routes pour faire les choses avec les ordinateurs tu sais..
[12:04:56] <druid>	 lol, comment tu sais que je susi francais?
[12:06:07] <druid>	 Anyways, there's not mention of $wgSidebarItems in the online help or in LocalSettings.php
[12:10:41] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) internal error - Fatal exception of type MWException on file page access - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37978  +comment (10Bawolff)
[12:12:23] <Reedy>	 druid: LocalSettings only has stuff changed by default documented
[12:12:41] <Reedy>	 it is documented in includes/DefaultSettings.php
[12:12:43] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Krinkle; "That's going to take forever. To many new jobs since then, and the swarm is too slow." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14057
[12:13:44] <druid>	 k thx Reedy , now i remember to have seen that when i installed it
[12:13:50] <druid>	 Sorry about that
[12:13:55] <druid>	 i'll check that later on
[12:20:02] <chombium>	 hi,  I'm using squid + mw. when a logged in user requests a page and that page is stored in the cache it is served from it, but the user is show as not logged in. If the user refreshes the page he's shown as logged in. I guess there is something with caching. Can someone help?
[12:23:51] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14031
[12:24:39] <jubo2>	 druid: 
[12:24:47] <jubo2>	 oops. accidental enter
[12:24:57] * jubo2  has to go tend to the B-B-Q

[12:33:48] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: John Erling Blad; "Remove multilingual labels and descriptions when they are set to empty strings." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14032
[12:36:28] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Adding sites handling" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14181
[12:44:43] <mjau^>	 evening peoples!
[12:45:06] <mjau^>	 would anyone in here happen to be running mw with the ldap_auth extension?
[12:45:11] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Adding ll_local to languagelinks table." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14084
[12:45:12] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Adding sites handling" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14181
[12:47:23] <mjau^>	 I wonder if I could somehow make a certain user admin by just writing something like $wgUserPermissions['mjau'] = $wgGroupPermissions['sysop'];
[12:50:19] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Siebrand; "Update support for MediaWiki extensions by Wikia." [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14182
[12:50:37] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Siebrand; [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14182
[12:51:14] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: John Erling Blad; "Remove multilingual labels and descriptions when they are set to empty strings." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14032
[12:53:59] <gerrit-wm>	 Change abandoned: John Erling Blad; "Find some other way to do this (eg. write a note that in some cases the tables must be physically dr..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13854
[12:58:36] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) strange indentation continuation after nested table - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38162 normal; MediaWiki: Parser; (richard.kreckel)
[12:58:46] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Siebrand; "Disable support for a few MediaWiki extensions by Wikia. May be enabled again in the future when message documentation is added." [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14183
[12:59:07] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Siebrand; [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14183
[12:59:11] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Adding sites handling" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14181
[13:02:25] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14032
[13:03:13] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Nikerabbit; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14176
[13:05:01] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Slevinski; "move descriptive file rename plus unit testing file" [mediawiki/extensions/SignWritingMediaWikiPlugin] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14184
[13:05:03] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Slevinski; "file name change updates" [mediawiki/extensions/SignWritingMediaWikiPlugin] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14185
[13:06:27] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Slevinski; "renamed files" [mediawiki/extensions/SignWritingMediaWikiPlugin] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14184
[13:06:29] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Slevinski; [mediawiki/extensions/SignWritingMediaWikiPlugin] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14184
[13:07:30] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Slevinski; "all unit tests pass" [mediawiki/extensions/SignWritingMediaWikiPlugin] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14185
[13:07:32] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Slevinski; [mediawiki/extensions/SignWritingMediaWikiPlugin] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14185
[13:10:55] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Adding sites handling" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14181
[13:11:40] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Fix jquery.byteLimit issues with incorrect blocking/limiting of input - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38163 normal; MediaWiki: JavaScript; (krinklemail)
[13:12:07] <wikibugs>	 03(FIXED) Fix jquery.byteLimit issues with incorrect blocking/limiting of input - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38158  summary; +comment (10Krinkle)
[13:12:30] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Edit summary field cannot be edited on some browsers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38158   +code-update-regression; summary (10Krinkle)
[13:14:51] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Adding sites handling" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14181
[13:16:12] <Hammond>	 Hallo
[13:16:31] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Fix jquery.byteLimit issues with incorrect blocking/limiting of input - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38163  +comment (10Krinkle)
[13:17:03] <Hammond>	 I wanted to ask how to lock an entire namespace for Ip
[13:17:11] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: John Erling Blad; "Special pages display useful link labels for data item links now." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13931
[13:17:17] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Nikerabbit; "Are you sure you are not just working around bug elsewhere?" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13627
[13:19:00] <Hammond>	 05I wanted to ask how to lock an entire namespace for Ip
[13:20:48] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: John Erling Blad; "Seems to be working, but produce ugly output because of missing fallback languages." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13931
[13:20:50] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13931
[13:21:57] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Adding sites handling" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14181
[13:22:30] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13878
[13:24:47] <tvo>	 heya, anyone seen a segmentation fault of the httpd process when accessing the Special:Preferences page with mw 1.19.1? (on php 5.4.4, apache 2.2.22, Fedora 17)
[13:31:29] <JeroenDeDauw>	 I'm having some odd error on Jenkins, not sure why it's complaining - anyone an idea? https://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/MediaWiki-Tests-Databaseless/2608/console
[13:33:13] <Reedy>	 13:22:24       [exec] DB connection error: Access denied for user 'wikiuser'@'localhost' (using password: NO) (localhost)
[13:34:26] <JeroenDeDauw>	 Reedy: the test is in the @Database group...
[13:34:31] <JeroenDeDauw>	 So why am I getting that
[13:34:32] <Reedy>	 And?
[13:34:33] <Reedy>	 I dunno
[13:34:39] <Reedy>	 That's the error it's complaining about
[13:34:49] <JeroenDeDauw>	 Yeah that part is obvious
[13:34:57] <JeroenDeDauw>	 Now why is it complaining about that?
[13:35:30] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "No clue why Jenkins is complaining... tests are running fine locally" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14181
[13:36:02] <Reedy>	 Are you creating your own db objects?
[13:37:50] <JeroenDeDauw>	 Reedy: no
[13:37:56] <JeroenDeDauw>	 Reedy: I'm not doing anything special
[13:38:24] <JeroenDeDauw>	 This looks like some issue with either Jenkins or the test framework
[13:38:35] <JeroenDeDauw>	 Possibly I'm doing *something* that it does not support
[13:38:43] <JeroenDeDauw>	 Something in the tests that is
[13:40:20] <tvo>	 stacktrace http://pastebin.com/wgTN8Dd1
[13:43:18] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: John Erling Blad; "Moved string handling functions to Utils." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14194
[13:46:26] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Remove sites core since it got moved to core and update references [DO NOT SUBMIT YET]" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14195
[13:50:31] <mnemoc>	 hi, how can I force a categorytree cache refresh?
[13:51:09] <mnemoc>	 i don't want to disable caching... just refresh the current data
[13:56:58] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Hashar; "The failing tests are in https://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/MediaWiki-Tests-Databaseless/2608/..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14181
[13:58:14] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14056
[13:58:24] <tvo>	 nm found my issue, one of my timezone files was corrupt on disk
[14:02:41] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: John Erling Blad; "Moved string handling functions to Utils." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14194
[14:03:37] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: John Erling Blad; "Moved string handling functions to Utils." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14194
[14:28:18] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Raimond Spekking; "Suggestion for using a message from core" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13931
[14:31:29] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Raimond Spekking; "Update optional keys" [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14196
[14:32:23] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Raimond Spekking; [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14196
[14:37:03] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Hashar; "removing -1 since we have testswarm result on the labs instance :)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14057
[14:44:22] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Amire80; "(Bug 37004) Add a datepicker to Special:TranslationStats" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8342
[14:50:08] <malafaya>	 i need an API expert :)
[14:50:36] <malafaya>	 https://es.wiktionary.org/w/api.php?action=query&list=allcategories&format=xml&acfrom=EN&aclimit=60
[14:51:11] <liangent>	 malafaya: then?
[14:51:25] <malafaya>	 those are not correct
[14:51:30] <malafaya>	 https://es.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=Especial%3ACategor%C3%ADas&from=EN
[14:51:44] <malafaya>	 at some point, everything gets even crazier
[14:54:33] <malafaya>	 I found this because my Pywikipediabot suddenly jumps to the end at this point
[14:55:25] <liangent>	 I really see categories listed in https://es.wiktionary.org/w/api.php?action=query&list=allcategories&format=xml&acfrom=EN&aclimit=60 in db..
[14:56:04] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) labsconsole login session issues - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38164 normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (krinklemail)
[14:57:04] <liangent>	 they once existed in the past and the special page filters them out
[14:57:06] <malafaya>	 how come i can't "see" them? there's no page, no members
[14:57:19] <malafaya>	 in that case, there is something else
[14:57:29] <malafaya>	 Starting at EN is the same as starting at en?
[14:57:36] <malafaya>	 (via API I mean)
[14:57:54] <liangent>	 malafaya: someone put [[Category:EN]] in a page and later it's removed
[14:58:26] <malafaya>	 lieangent, ok. What about the above: starting at EN is equal to en?
[14:58:36] <liangent>	 not sure whether it's a bug that the api module doesn't filter out empty categories and doesn't provide an option to do so
[14:59:15] <malafaya>	 if i start at "EN", then I get in the respose:
[14:59:16] <malafaya>	 <allcategories acfrom="en:Ciencias sociales" />
[14:59:31] <malafaya>	 it moved to lower-case categories, and it will skip everything in between
[14:59:35] <liangent>	 why didn't I get the same results
[14:59:38] <malafaya>	 this seems like a bug
[14:59:45] <liangent>	 oh you mean query-continue?
[14:59:59] <malafaya>	 <query-continue>     <allcategories acfrom="en:Ciencias sociales" />   </query-continue>
[15:01:15] <malafaya>	 or more complete:
[15:01:17] <malafaya>	 <c size="4" pages="0" files="0" subcats="4" xml:space="preserve">EN:Ciencias naturales</c>     </allcategories>   </query>   <query-continue>     <allcategories acfrom="en:Ciencias sociales" />   </query-continue>
[15:02:06] <malafaya>	 last result retrieved is "EN:Ciencias naturales" (capital EN), and query-continue is "en:Ciencias sociales" (lower case EN)
[15:03:03] <liangent>	 I see. I guess it's really a bug
[15:03:37] <liangent>	 it treat "EN:xxx" as a title to parse, and EN is treated as an interwiki prefix and turned lowercase
[15:04:11] <malafaya>	 probably... if no one here protests, I'll file the bug... :)
[15:11:03] <liangent>	 malafaya: file it
[15:16:59] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Case mismatch in <query-continue> while listing categories starting with "EN:" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38165 normal; MediaWiki: API; (malafaya)
[15:29:02] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Case mismatch in <query-continue> while listing categories starting with "EN:" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38165  +comment (10Liangent)
[15:29:29] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Case mismatch in <query-continue> while listing categories starting with "EN:" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38165  +comment (10Liangent)
[15:30:13] <liangent>	 malafaya: I added some comments
[15:30:30] <malafaya>	 thank you, liangent
[15:30:40] <malafaya>	 i never noticed DE:
[15:30:53] <malafaya>	 the bot was probably luck enough never to hit it somehow
[15:31:11] <malafaya>	 only after EN: it skips categories
[15:31:30] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Reedy; "Remove some old debugging code" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14197
[15:31:44] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Third party skins should be able to use ResourceLoader, like extensions can - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38142  +comment (10John Morton)
[15:38:39] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Siebrand; "Update support for MediaWiki extensions by Wikia." [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14198
[15:42:21] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Siebrand; [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14198
[15:42:21] <Matrixiumn>	 Hello
[15:43:26] <Matrixiumn>	 ascheel: In social profile has any thing been reported concerning line 611 on /extention/SocialProfile/UserStats/UserStatsClass.php?
[15:44:21] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Third party skins should be able to use ResourceLoader, like extensions can - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38142  +comment (10Jack Phoenix)
[15:46:15] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Special character capital A with a circle on top is not displayed correctly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38166 minor; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; (silke.meyer)
[15:47:16] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Language specific aliases (3) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37736  (10jeblad)
[15:53:41] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "Since the tests are working locally, I seriously doubt the namespaces have anything to do with it." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14181
[16:01:04] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Third party skins should be able to use ResourceLoader, like extensions can - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38142  +comment (10Daniel Friesen)
[16:01:05] <ascheel>	 Matrixiumn: I'm not a part of mediawik in any way, shape, or form.
[16:01:11] <marktraceur>	 Is there a way to pass things in LocalSettings.php over to qunit test suites?
[16:01:15] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Amire80; "(Bug 37004) Add a datepicker to Special:TranslationStats" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8342
[16:01:20] <wikibugs>	 14(WFM) Third party skins should be able to use ResourceLoader, like extensions can - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38142  (10Daniel Friesen)
[16:01:44] <Matrixiumn>	 ascheel: Oh sorry, I was meant to higlight ashley
[16:02:12] <Matrixiumn>	 ashley: In social profile has any thing been reported concerning line 611 on /extention/SocialProfile/UserStats/UserStatsClass.php?
[16:03:01] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Jens Ohlig; "You know. This is just a test review. To get chocolate." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14083
[16:04:00] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Tobias Gritschacher; "Now, that they are in Utils, please add tests for those functions in UtilsTests.php." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14194
[16:05:20] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Amire80; "(Bug 37004) Add a datepicker to Special:TranslationStats" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8342
[16:07:19] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: John Erling Blad; "The patch set is about moving the functions, not testing them." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14194
[16:08:22] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Matthias Mullie; "Bug 36649 - Article Feedback Page - Show the user's last post at the top of the page" [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14199
[16:09:57] <wikibugs>	 03(FIXED) Enable LiquidThreads on fi.wikiMedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37778  +comment (10Nemo_bis)
[16:10:01] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Article Feedback Page - Show the user's last post at the top of the page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36649  +comment (10Matthias Mullie)
[16:12:44] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Amire80; "(Bug 37004) Add a datepicker to Special:TranslationStats" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8342
[16:17:09] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Amire80; "The later patch sets tried different ways to tackle the date format issue that Niklas pointed out. F..." [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8342
[16:17:12] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: John Erling Blad; "Moved string handling functions to Utils." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14194
[16:22:17] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Remove liquidthreads_labswikimedia from config - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38157  +comment (10Krenair)
[16:22:56] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Adding ll_local to languagelinks table." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14084
[16:22:57] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Adding sites handling" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14181
[16:23:48] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Nischayn22; "Query tests" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14201
[16:25:24] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "Awesome!" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14201
[16:25:26] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14201
[16:27:01] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Prevent direct editing of JSON via the APIs edit action (2) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37689  (10jeblad)
[16:31:41] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Adding sites handling" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14181
[16:37:02] <ashley>	 Matrixiumn: it's nothing serious, it's a notice you can freely ignore, or it bothers you, just suppress it with either PHP's built-in error suppression operator (@) or better yet, with MediaWiki's wfSuppressWarnings() / wfRestoreWarnings()
[16:37:39] <Matrixiumn>	 ashley: The problem is I think that is what is causing it to not uploadf
[16:37:43] <Matrixiumn>	 *upload
[16:38:30] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) enable mobile redirect broken on iOS - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38009  +comment (10Jon)
[16:38:41] <ashley>	 I don't think so, that sounds quite far-fetched; IIRC the problem occurs when $wgUserStatsPointValues isn't configured correctly
[16:39:03] <daemon>	 hey all
[16:39:16] <daemon>	 my editors want me to allow ther upload of css files as they want to apply specific styles to some of there articles
[16:39:24] <daemon>	 is there a correct way to go about it
[16:40:50] <ashley>	 daemon: the correct way would be to define CSS classes (and IDs and whatnot you need) in [[MediaWiki:Common.css]] or [[MediaWiki:Skinname.css]] (i.e MediaWiki:Vector.css for the Vector skin) -- those are wiki pages -- and then use those classes in wiki pages; do note that one needs the 'editinterface' user right (given to the sysop group by default) to edit those pages
[16:41:12] <daemon>	 got it
[16:41:21] <daemon>	 thank you ashish_d 
[16:41:24] <daemon>	 ashley, even :)
[16:42:23] <ashley>	 you're welcome :)
[16:47:36] <Matrixiumn>	 ashley: Isn't it defined automatically?
[16:47:42] <Matrixiumn>	 Sorry to bug you
[16:48:31] <Matrixiumn>	 DOne
[16:48:32] <Matrixiumn>	 *Done
[16:49:23] <ashley>	 Matrixiumn: I wouldn't bet too much money on it; some definitions are on UserStatsClass.php, before the actual class definitions; I'm not too sure if these definitions are ever loaded/used, though
[16:49:36] <Matrixiumn>	 Okay
[16:50:08] <ashley>	 Matrixiumn: you can copy the defaults from extensions/SocialProfile/UserStats/UserStatsClass.php into your wiki's LocalSettings.php and then alter them accordingly and see if that helps
[16:50:23] <Matrixiumn>	 Okay
[16:51:05] <Matrixiumn>	 ashley: Do I have to go to a special page to reload them?
[16:52:35] <ashley>	 Matrixiumn: hmm, now that's a good question :D let me try to find out (I _think_ that saving a new version of LocalSettings.php should do, but...)
[16:52:56] <Matrixiumn>	 Okay
[16:53:44] <jenzil>	 hallo kann mir jemand beim mediawiki helfen??
[16:54:18] <mutante>	 jenzil: wenns geht auf Englisch, da kriegste mehr Antworten 
[16:54:31] <jenzil>	 Hi can someone help me with mediawiki? :D
[16:54:41] <liangent>	 !ask | jenzil
[16:54:41] <wm-bot>	 jenzil: Hi, how can we help you? Just ask your question.
[16:54:42] <jenzil>	 want to import a .sql dump
[16:54:43] <mutante>	 and then just ask a more specific question and wait :)
[16:55:08] <jenzil>	 I want to import an existing .sql dump but dont know how
[16:55:27] <liangent>	 mysql < filename.sql
[16:55:28] <mutante>	 jenzil: mysql -u root -p wikidb < mydump.sql  or something similar
[16:55:32] <ashley>	 Matrixiumn: I'm guessing it doesn't hurt to visit Special:UpdateEditCounts
[16:55:38] <mutante>	 eh, maybe not root :p
[16:56:03] <jenzil>	 i tried to import the .sql dump in phpmyadmin and then used the DB with the installation of mediawiki but cant see the sites
[16:56:28] <mutante>	 hrmm i dont know about phpmyadmin it always seems to make things more complicated
[16:56:31] <liangent>	 jenzil: have you already imported it?
[16:56:42] <jenzil>	 its imported in phpmyadmin
[16:57:03] <liangent>	 and you're asking how to ask mw to use that db?
[16:57:06] <jenzil>	 and when mediawiki asked in the installation for a DB i just gave the name of the DB imported to phpmyadmin
[16:57:16] <liangent>	 and?
[16:57:35] <mutante>	 jenzil: what is in that db? an old mediawiki db?
[16:57:50] <jenzil>	 and it seems that nothing happened or the DB is overwritten dont know..
[16:57:56] <mutante>	 maybe there has been a table change in between versions
[16:58:02] <jenzil>	 it is from another mediawiki
[16:58:10] <mutante>	 and there is an update script in maintenance to update them
[16:58:45] <jenzil>	 im new with linux and mediawiki
[16:58:53] <liangent>	 what about making up a LocalSettings.php manually?
[16:59:17] <jenzil>	 cant i just edit the old one?
[16:59:29] <mutante>	 jenzil: how many pages do you want to import, btw? roughly
[16:59:37] <mutante>	 jenzil: is it a huge wiki or just a few pages
[16:59:49] <jenzil>	 dont really know how much they are but the dump is about 7 MB
[17:00:17] <mutante>	 just saying, there is also Special:Export and Special:Import pages, if you still have the old wiki running somewhere
[17:01:01] <mutante>	 first thing would be to tell people here both Mediawiki versions you have, the old and the new one
[17:01:05] <mutante>	 i guess
[17:01:34] <jenzil>	 let me see
[17:01:42] <jenzil>	 the one that i use
[17:01:48] <jenzil>	 is the newest
[17:02:43] <jenzil>	 i cant login in the other one how can i see which version it is?
[17:02:46] <mutante>	 jenzil: do you know if you have a real shell on that server? (ssh)?
[17:02:49] <jenzil>	 i suggest it is older
[17:03:02] <jenzil>	 yes i am root
[17:03:03] <jenzil>	 in mine
[17:03:06] <mutante>	 Special:Version if it still runs
[17:03:31] <jenzil>	 the other one is 1.18.1
[17:04:19] <jenzil>	 and mine 1.15.5-2squeeze4
[17:04:26] <mutante>	 jenzil: do you use the same database name on old and new server?
[17:04:58] <Matrixiumn>	 ashley: I get permissions error. What permission do I give myself and how?
[17:05:03] <jenzil>	 i just imported it to phpmyadmin and then suddenly there was i name which i used with installing mediawiki
[17:05:21] <mutante>	 jenzil: and the installer said all was fine?
[17:05:26] <jenzil>	 yes
[17:05:53] <mutante>	 jenzil: and what do you see on your site now exactly?
[17:06:24] <jenzil>	 Database nameofdb exists
[17:06:25] <jenzil>	     Creating tables... done.
[17:06:25] <jenzil>	     Initializing statistics...
[17:06:25] <jenzil>	     Created sysop account admin.
[17:06:32] <jenzil>	 thats what the installer said
[17:06:43] <jenzil>	 i see only the standart points
[17:06:48] <liangent>	 eh you're running an old version of mw on a new version of db?
[17:06:56] <jenzil>	 navigation is still normal
[17:06:59] <jenzil>	 main page etc.
[17:06:59] <liangent>	 I doubt if we support this
[17:07:16] <liangent>	 can you upgrading your mw first?
[17:07:19] <mutante>	 liangent: new version of mw on old version of db it seems
[17:07:25] <jenzil>	 its the newest i could download...
[17:07:30] <JuanDaugherty>	 anybody present know anything about the not being able to update after a 14 -> 19 upgrade thing?
[17:07:43] <mutante>	 liangent: wants to use database of old wiki and selects it in installer
[17:07:44] <liangent>	 jenzil: don't depend on your package maintainer
[17:07:56] <liangent>	 !debian | jenzil
[17:08:01] <liangent>	 !deb | jenzil
[17:08:02] <wm-bot>	 jenzil: Many Linux distributions provide MediaWiki in a packaged format for that distribution. Distributions are usually  outdated, also they like to move around files, change the files and other unpredictable things. You'll get the best support here if you install MediaWiki directly from one of our tarballs, available at http://www.mediawiki.org/
[17:08:32] <JuanDaugherty>	 it was suggest to be an inno vs isam thing, which doesn't seem likely
[17:08:37] <JuanDaugherty>	 *suggested
[17:08:42] <mutante>	 liangent: heh, btw  https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-distributors
[17:08:42] <jenzil>	 im new in linux and so i dont know how to install with tarball...
[17:08:59] <liangent>	 1.15.5-2squeeze4 is really the newest one can get from debian stable...
[17:09:11] <mutante>	 there is some initiative to make that better and get more recent versions in Debian/Ubuntu-land
[17:09:22] <liangent>	 jenzil: or you can try debian testing ( = wheezy )
[17:09:24] <mutante>	 there is a low-volume mailing list for that, kind of new
[17:09:27] <liangent>	 which ships 1.19
[17:09:39] <ashley>	 Matrixiumn: IIRC the permission is updateeditcounts, i.e. the same name as the special page, just lowercase; give the permission to a group (that you're a member of) via LocalSettings.php, i.e. $wgGroupPermissions['sysop']['updateeditcounts'] = true; and then visit that special page again; if you give the permission to a group that you're not a member of, visit Special:UserRights to add yourself to the group first
[17:10:45] <jenzil>	 how
[17:10:52] <mutante>	 jenzil: things debian calls testing are not necessarily broken, actually it feels like others would have called it stable earlier, but Debian is just known to be slow and test a long time (which can also be a good thing, it depends)
[17:12:00] <liangent>	 debian packages are always conservative
[17:12:09] <mutante>	 jenzil: basically edit your /etc/apt/sources.list to the new release and apt-get dist-upgrade
[17:12:14] <mutante>	 but backup first
[17:13:26] <liangent>	 if he just want to run mw this might be a little expensive
[17:13:36] <jenzil>	 how to edit to new release?
[17:13:43] <liangent>	 but I guess some of his other components are outdated somehow
[17:14:20] <liangent>	 jenzil: replace all "stable" with "testing", or replace "squeeze" with "wheezy"
[17:15:52] <mutante>	 jenzil: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/ch-choosing.en.html#s3.1.11
[17:17:02] <jenzil>	 ok changed all squeeze to wheezy
[17:17:30] <mutante>	 jenzil: notice the part about security updates, it's a trade-off. you could also stay on stable and get Mediawiki from git, but then you will have to handle outside of apt. either or, one would need more manual work unfortunately. http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Download_from_Git
[17:18:05] <mutante>	 good luck with upgrade, should be fine
[17:18:28] <ZombieDan>	 !packages
[17:18:29] <wm-bot>	 Many Linux distributions provide MediaWiki in a packaged format for that distribution. These packages typically contain obsolete and unsupported versions of MediaWiki, also they like to move around files, change the files, and do other batshit insane things. Please install the latest version from a tarball at http://www.mediawiki.org/ before asking for help.
[17:19:01] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "added basic selenium testing for search functionality" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14202
[17:20:47] <jenzil>	 im trying upgrade first
[17:21:00] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) extract2.php: Get rid of no longer used "$1 portal" parser - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38167 normal; Wikimedia: Site configuration; (krinklemail)
[17:22:41] <jenzil>	 i will write when im ready with upgrading
[17:22:49] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) extract2.php: Implement 304 caching - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38168 normal; Wikimedia: Site configuration; (krinklemail)
[17:22:51] <Matrixiumn>	 ashley: I still get permissions error
[17:22:57] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) extract2.php: Implement 304 caching - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38168  normal->15enhancement (10Krinkle)
[17:23:10] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) extract2.php: Get rid of no longer used "$1 portal" parser - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38167  normal->15enhancement (10Krinkle)
[17:23:59] <ashley>	 try logging out and then logging back in; if it still doesn't work, double-check group permissions & your group memberships
[17:24:31] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "fixed class-names in display of searchresults" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14203
[17:30:57] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Setting labels should normalize some things, API should return the actual label on success (5) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36439  (10jeblad)
[17:31:24] <liangent>	 !deb
[17:31:24] <wm-bot>	 Many Linux distributions provide MediaWiki in a packaged format for that distribution. Distributions are usually  outdated, also they like to move around files, change the files and other unpredictable things. You'll get the best support here if you install MediaWiki directly from one of our tarballs, available at http://www.mediawiki.org/
[17:31:25] <liangent>	 !packages
[17:31:25] <wm-bot>	 Many Linux distributions provide MediaWiki in a packaged format for that distribution. These packages typically contain obsolete and unsupported versions of MediaWiki, also they like to move around files, change the files, and do other batshit insane things. Please install the latest version from a tarball at http://www.mediawiki.org/ before asking for help.
[17:31:39] <liangent>	 should be merged somehow?
[17:33:54] <Platonides>	 I don't see where is it coming from
[17:35:27] <liangent>	 let's merge them with their longest sentence
[17:35:30] <liangent>	 !deb del
[17:35:30] <wm-bot>	 Unable to find the specified key in db
[17:35:45] <liangent>	 !botbrain
[17:35:45] <wm-bot>	 Hello, I'm wm-bot. The database for this channel is published at http://bots.wmflabs.org/~petrb/db/%23mediawiki.htm More about WM-Bot: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/wm-bot
[17:36:19] <liangent>	 !package del
[17:36:20] <wm-bot>	 Successfully removed package
[17:36:23] <liangent>	 !packages del
[17:36:23] <wm-bot>	 Successfully removed packages
[17:36:41] <liangent>	 !packages is Many Linux distributions provide MediaWiki in a packaged format for that distribution. These packages typically contain obsolete and unsupported versions of MediaWiki, also they like to move around files, change the files, and do other batshit insane things. You'll get the best support here if you install MediaWiki directly from one of our tarballs, available at http://www.mediawiki.org/
[17:36:41] <wm-bot>	 Key was added
[17:36:50] <liangent>	 !package alias packages
[17:36:51] <wm-bot>	 Created new alias for this key
[17:37:21] <jenzil>	 aahh i think it is installing 1.19 now
[17:37:58] <wikibugs>	 03(FIXED) MobileFrontend uses too many global variables - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36379  (10Jon)
[17:38:20] <jenzil>	 A database error has occurred. Did you forget to run maintenance/update.php after upgrading? See: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Upgrading#Run_the_update_script
[17:38:20] <jenzil>	 Query: SELECT lc_value FROM `l10n_cache` WHERE lc_lang = 'de' AND lc_key = 'deps' LIMIT 1
[17:38:20] <jenzil>	 Function: LCStore_DB::get
[17:38:20] <jenzil>	 Error: 1146 Table 'dbname.l10n_cache' doesn't exist (localhost)
[17:38:25] <jenzil>	 thats what i get now
[17:38:28] <factor>	 I was trying to make a font color in a div but keeps it the same , why is this
[17:38:45] <wikibugs>	 06(LATER) Contact Us stylesheet is served to all pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37716  +comment (10Jon)
[17:38:55] <Amgine>	 Reedy: are extensions being tagged to stable releases?
[17:39:07] <wikibugs>	 03(FIXED) action=mobileview & page=Main_Page & sections=references returns HTTP 500 error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37886  +comment (10Max Semenik)
[17:39:25] <Reedy>	 Amgine: for branches it's whatever is in SVN
[17:39:30] <liangent>	 jenzil: is your database name "dbname"?
[17:39:47] <wikibugs>	 03(FIXED) Slow loading pages jump to the top of page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37832  (10Jon)
[17:40:07] <jenzil>	 yeah the name is the same
[17:40:09] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) [beta] Make the back option click area cell wide - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38105  (10Jon)
[17:40:28] <Amgine>	 Reedy: wait, wut? so, all the extensions in git should have branch REL1_19? but they don't?
[17:40:38] <Reedy>	 No
[17:40:44] <Reedy>	 There's no extension branches in git
[17:41:51] <liangent>	 jenzil: and can you go to phpmyadmin and confirm whether there's a table called "l10n_cache" in your db "dbname"?
[17:42:18] <Amgine>	 Will all extensions in git work with 1.19.x atm? 
[17:42:57] <Reedy>	 Maybe, maybe not
[17:43:26] <Amgine>	 <hugs Reedy for honesty>
[17:44:50] <jenzil>	 there is no l10n_cache
[17:45:12] <liangent>	 can you list some tables existing there
[17:45:40] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) MobileFrontend extension should validate against W3C in Jenkins - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31876  normal->15enhancement (10Jon)
[17:46:13] <Krinkle-away>	 Reedy: there are extension branches in git, and extensions should by all means create branches for 1.19 if they are no longer compatible
[17:46:26] <wikibugs>	 03(FIXED) action=mobileview & page=Main_Page & noheadings=1 scrubs off all heading info, without exposing it anywhere - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38025  +comment (10Max Semenik)
[17:46:31] <Reedy>	 Not release branches
[17:46:37] <Krinkle>	 We just no longer do it for them when we branch core, and we haven't imported the svn branches yet
[17:46:51] <Krinkle>	 Sure, I can push a REL1_19 branch point for Gadgets right now if I want to
[17:46:58] <Krinkle>	 and I will.
[17:49:26] <Krinkle>	 .. I can't create branches by pushing?
[17:49:57] <saper>	 Krinkle: got permission?
[17:49:58] <jenzil>	 ahh i found l10n_cache
[17:50:19] <Krinkle>	 I tried refs/for/REL1_19, that didn't work
[17:50:25] <Krinkle>	 but pushing to REL1_19 did work
[17:50:38] <Krinkle>	 Yep, there it is 
[17:50:38] <Krinkle>	 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/admin/projects/mediawiki/extensions/Gadgets,branches
[17:51:55] <saper>	 Krinkle: what did it say? what was your command?
[17:52:04] <jenzil>	 what should i do now
[17:52:05] <Krinkle>	 git push gerrit REL1_19
[17:52:12] <Krinkle>	 To ssh://krinkle@gerrit.wikimedia.org:29418/mediawiki/extensions/Gadgets.git
[17:52:12] <Krinkle>	  * [new branch]      HEAD -> REL1_19
[17:52:38] <Krinkle>	 erm no
[17:52:39] <Krinkle>	 git push gerrit HEAD:REL1_19
[17:52:44] <Krinkle>	 the "HEAD:" part is important
[17:52:56] <Krinkle>	 other wise it will try to push a local branch named "REL1_19" to the remote "master"
[17:53:34] <jenzil>	 i just imported the DB again into phpmyadmin
[17:55:26] <Krinkle>	 Amgine: there is an open bug to mass-import branches from svn to git. The complicated bit is to try to do it efficiently (e.g. actually make them branches by branching from a point in the master history, instead of reimporting the whole copy, which reflects how broken svn is) 
[17:55:47] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Setting labels should normalize some things, API should return the actual label on success (5) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36439  (10jeblad)
[17:55:48] <Krinkle>	 Right now extensionDistributor is in a very akward state.
[17:55:49] <jenzil>	 no i can setup the wiki again
[17:56:45] <jenzil>	 can i use in the installer now the already existing database or will it be overwritten??
[17:56:52] <Amgine>	 Thanks Krinkle. 
[17:57:30] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Special:Search doesn't properly redirect on mobile devices - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37281  +comment (10Max Semenik)
[17:58:05] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: John Erling Blad; "Moved string handling functions to Utils." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14194
[18:08:05] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Siebrand; "Maintenance for special pages." [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14204
[18:09:16] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Add Siyam Rupali Font for Bishnupriya Manipuri - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37863  +comment (10Uttam Singha)
[18:09:36] <Amgine>	 Side note: Widgets in git apparently does not work with 1.19.x
[18:14:45] <wikibugs>	 03(FIXED) Add Siyam Rupali Font for Bishnupriya Manipuri - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37863  +comment (10Siebrand)
[18:15:06] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Siebrand; "Thanks, Srikanth." [mediawiki/extensions/WebFonts] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14081
[18:15:08] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/WebFonts] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14081
[18:15:49] <siebrand>	 Ah, yes. Finally i"m getting this "Last autoresponse notification for today" mail again.
[18:15:58] <siebrand>	 Means it's shutting up with moderation queue messages.
[18:17:26] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: MarkTraceur; "Fix a bug in the "collaborators" loading." [mediawiki/extensions/EtherEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14205
[18:18:00] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: MarkTraceur; [mediawiki/extensions/EtherEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14205
[18:19:08] <factor>	 Does mediwiki have any box formatting extensions. Have made one manually but would be nice to have simpler notation for making formatted boxes around content.  
[18:19:33] <factor>	 Was going to make one, but if one already exist
[18:26:34] <jenzil>	 can someone help me import a database???
[18:28:01] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: MarkTraceur; "Fix failure to update database" [mediawiki/extensions/EtherEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14206
[18:28:14] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: MarkTraceur; [mediawiki/extensions/EtherEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14206
[18:34:38] <MaxSem>	 jenzil, go on
[18:42:44] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Accessibility for embedded images - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34750  +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman)
[18:45:17] <jenzil>	 sry had a little bit to do ill be back..
[18:49:33] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: TheDJ; "This breaks OggHandler:" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9967
[18:50:46] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Accessibility for embedded images - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34750  +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman)
[19:08:31] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) MobileFrontend extension should validate against W3C in Jenkins - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31876  +comment (10Krinkle)
[19:11:01] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Special:BlockList doesn't infer leading capital - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38169 normal; MediaWiki: User blocking; (martijnhoekstra)
[19:11:22] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Special:BlockList doesn't infer leading capital - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38169  normal->minor (10Martijn Hoekstra)
[19:13:12] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: IAlex; "Maybe too paranoid with HTML escaping? :)" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14204
[19:34:47] <pilulazul>	 where do i set a MediWiki:something ?
[19:35:11] <Amgine>	 http://your.domain.tld/wiki/MediaWiki:Something
[19:35:19] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Aude; "Not sure what the guidelines are but would be good if this supported more database engines, at least..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14084
[19:36:08] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Aude; "Not sure what the guidelines are but would be good if this supported more database engines, at least..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14181
[19:36:30] <pilulazul>	 i am on mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Footer and it gives that example for MediaWiki:TermsOfService
[19:36:43] <pilulazul>	 but where i actually set that?
[19:41:31] <pilulazul>	 i mean how do I create let's say Special:NewPage
[19:41:49] <Reedy>	 How do you create a special page?
[19:42:52] <pilulazul>	 any page
[19:43:10] <pilulazul>	 it doesn't need to be on Special that was just an example
[19:43:17] <pilulazul>	 more like Something:Anything
[19:44:54] <Amgine>	 pilulazul: http://your.domain.tld/wiki/New_page?action=edit
[19:45:59] <pilulazul>	 Amgine: My gramma always told me: the simplest things are the least obvious
[19:46:07] <pilulazul>	 or was it the other way around?
[19:46:44] <Amgine>	 No worries, pilulazul.
[19:47:07] <pilulazul>	 Amgine: yes thanks
[20:12:58] <wikibugs>	 03(FIXED) Switching between desktop and mobile view should redirect to canonical URLs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36182  +comment (10Max Semenik)
[20:16:17] <codurr>	 03raymond * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/115592> 10/trunk/extensions/ (16 files in 16 dirs): Localisation updates from http://translatewiki.net.
[20:17:32] <jenzil>	 so can someone help me with my database??
[20:17:54] <jenzil>	 i have an .sql dumb from another mediawiki and i want to import it to my mediawiki so that i have all the pages etc.
[20:36:07] <Reedy>	 Wow, Wikia is going for 1.19
[20:36:41] <Lcawte>	 Only just found that out?
[20:37:53] <Lcawte>	 TOR announced it June 12th, but people were already talking about it before that...
[20:39:12] <Dereckson>	 someone on fr. thinks the 500 calls #expr limit is a blocker for a page he wish to create
[20:39:45] <Lcawte>	 I mentioned in here that they should probably wait for .20 or 2.0, whichever is next but the majority disagreed with me...
[20:39:45] <Dereckson>	 500 #expr on one page ?!?
[20:40:01] <Reedy>	 1.20 is still a couple of months away
[20:40:17] <Reedy>	 I don't follow wikia, just updating their SVN repo now
[20:40:46] <Dereckson>	 jenzil: you wish to create a MediaWiki install reading the database you've got a dump or import its content on an existing wiki?
[20:40:58] <Reedy>	 Need to poke Sean about their mods and see what else we should be upstreaming
[20:41:52] <Reedy>	 They seem to have all extensions in their repo too :/
[20:42:32] <Reedy>	 115MB transferred so far
[20:42:36] <Lcawte>	 Yep
[20:43:14] <Lcawte>	 1.20 may be a couple of months away, but Wikia's 1.20 upgrade is likely to be 6 or 7 months away, or non-existant ^.^
[20:43:50] <Reedy>	 indeed
[20:43:57] <Reedy>	 they were far enough behind as it was
[20:44:00] <jenzil>	 no one can help me?
[20:44:21] <Lcawte>	 True, but not as bad as say.... wikiHow ...
[20:44:30] <Reedy>	 Yeeeaaaaah
[20:44:46] <TheWoozle>	 jenzil : you're having trouble with the import?
[20:46:17] <Reedy>	 199.70MB
[20:46:59] <Reedy>	 I really wish they'd just bloody extension-ise their additions to core
[20:47:25] <TheWoozle>	 ...and I'm trying to figure out how to mark a new page as patrolled when it doesn't show up in RecentChanges (pushed off by a bunch of spam deletions).
[20:47:33] <Lcawte>	 Or submit them in gerrit to core, atleast then they might stand a small chance of not needing core "hacks" ^.^
[20:47:46] <Lcawte>	 Can all of their changes be extension-ised though?
[20:47:47] <Reedy>	 [21:41:20] <Reedy> Need to poke Sean about their mods and see what else we should be upstreaming
[20:47:55] <Reedy>	 Not everything, but a lot of it should be
[20:48:00] <Dereckson>	 jenzil: to help you, we need to know exactly where are you blocked, if you're blocked somewhere, or if you wish to know how to start. It's why I saked you if you wished to create a MediaWiki install reading the database you've got a dump or imported its content on an existing wiki.
[20:48:47] <Lcawte>	 Now that I actually know how to use git to a basic extent, it feels really weird using svn :/
[20:48:52] <jenzil>	 i just told you what my problem is
[20:48:53] <Reedy>	 TheWoozle: recentchanges.rc_patrolled?
[20:48:55] <Reedy>	   -- If the Recent Changes Patrol option is enabled,
[20:48:55] <Reedy>	   -- users may mark edits as having been reviewed to
[20:48:55] <Reedy>	   -- remove a warning flag on the RC list.
[20:48:55] <Reedy>	   -- A value of 1 indicates the page has been reviewed.
[20:48:57] <Reedy>	   rc_patrolled tinyint unsigned NOT NULL default 0,
[20:49:13] <jenzil>	 im new with linux and mediawiki i dont know how to import a sql dumb to my mediawiki
[20:49:30] <Reedy>	 that's neither a linux or a mediawiki specific thing
[20:49:34] <Reedy>	 !import
[20:49:35] <wm-bot>	 To import pages a few pages, use Special:Import - you can also import pages directly from another wiki (see !importsources). For mass imports, use importDump.php - see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Importing_XML_dumps> for details. NOTE: when using content from another wiki, follow the LICENSE TERMS, especially, attribute source and authors!
[20:49:37] <jenzil>	 so what?
[20:49:38] <Reedy>	 !backup
[20:49:38] <wm-bot>	 See http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Backing_up_a_wiki for information about backing up your wiki. For restoring your wiki, see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Moving_a_wiki#Import_the_database_backup
[20:49:44] <jenzil>	 that doesnt help me
[20:49:55] <Reedy>	 What doesn't?
[20:49:56] <Reedy>	 For restoring your wiki, see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Moving_a_wiki#Import_the_database_backup
[20:50:05] <Reedy>	 https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=import+mysql+backup&sugexp=chrome,mod=6&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
[20:50:27] <Lcawte>	 mysql -u <user> -p  ... then use, use mydatabase; then source /path/to/mysqldump.sql; or something like that
[20:50:52] <jenzil>	 i imported
[20:50:53] <Reedy>	 mysql -u user -p -h hostname < /path/to/sql.sql
[20:50:59] <jenzil>	 my db.sql dumb 
[20:51:02] <jenzil>	 to phpmyadmin
[20:51:11] <Reedy>	 dump
[20:51:16] <jenzil>	 and when i installed mediawiki i said the db ist this one i imported
[20:51:16] <Reedy>	 not dumb
[20:51:18] <jenzil>	 ok
[20:51:19] <jenzil>	 dump
[20:51:31] <TheWoozle>	 Reedy: I mean, from within the user interface. ...although if there's a simple way to generate a "mark this rev as patrolled" link, that would work too.
[20:51:38] <TheWoozle>	 (There seems to be some kind of session key involved.)
[20:51:42] <Lcawte>	 Ok, so have you updated your LocalSettings.php to point at the correct database
[20:51:50] <Lcawte>	 ie, correct table, user, and prefix ?
[20:51:56] <jenzil>	 i installed mediawiki with the old database
[20:52:01] <Reedy>	 TheWoozle: AFAIK it's implicit. You visit the page, you've patrolled it
[20:52:33] <Lcawte>	 jenzil: So in other words, the dump you imported isn't actually what you wanted imported?
[20:52:36] <jenzil>	 user is my current user root
[20:52:41] <jenzil>	 db name is correct
[20:52:48] <jenzil>	 and prefix should be the same
[20:52:51] <TheWoozle>	 That doesn't match my understanding, Reedy... for one thing, I can visit the same page history multiple times, and still see the "mark as patrolled" link.
[20:53:14] <TheWoozle>	 (That works when a page has more than one revision; for pages that have been created and not edited any further, you can't get that.)
[20:54:04] <jenzil>	 ?
[20:55:11] <Lcawte>	 jenzil: I'm still trying to understand the problem your having...
[20:55:52] <Dereckson>	 jenzil: it could be helpful if you explain (i) what you have currently as result (ii) what you expected to be different
[20:57:13] <jenzil>	 just a second
[20:57:18] <jenzil>	 i will try to install it again
[20:57:23] <jenzil>	 then i can tell you more ok?
[20:58:10] <Dereckson>	 Lcawte: I assume he wish to restart from scratch the dump restore 
[20:59:50] <jenzil>	 ok so step to step 
[20:59:55] <jenzil>	 i imported my old database to phpmyadmin
[21:00:02] <jenzil>	 and now i start the installation of mediawiki
[21:00:18] <jenzil>	 chosing language
[21:00:40] <jenzil>	 now the installer asks me for mysql
[21:00:46] <jenzil>	 i write the name of my old database
[21:01:09] <jenzil>	 and i put the name and its prefix
[21:03:11] <jenzil>	 localsettings generated and put into my folder
[21:03:29] <jenzil>	 uhm
[21:03:34] <jenzil>	 i cant believe what was wrong
[21:03:37] <jenzil>	 but now it worked
[21:03:42] <jenzil>	 O.o
[21:03:55] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Krinkle; "Reply inline." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14057
[21:05:08] <Dereckson>	 jenzil: basically, for any web application I would do this in the future if you wish to avoid errors and incomprehensible results "one time it works, the previous occurence it failed": (i) install a new copy of the app on the "test" database (or a database you create to drop after) (ii) edit the config file (like LocalSettings.php for MediaWiki) to point to the production database (iii) restore any relevant files (e.g. attachments for MediaWiki)
[21:05:29] <Lcawte>	 Its tempting to go through and generate diffs for Wikia's 1.19 and file patches back for them, but then again, I'm not going to commit code I have no intention of reviewing, or that isn't mine.
[21:06:13] <jenzil>	 thanks 
[21:08:08] <Reedy>	 Lcawte: I've a tool written for this
[21:08:31] <Reedy>	 And it even uploads them to a wiki
[21:08:44] <Reedy>	 Lcawte: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikia_code
[21:09:03] <jenzil>	 are there any sidebar extensions or something else? would appreciate to use a dropdown sidebar? or can someone tell me what to do for a dropdown sidebar
[21:10:01] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Krinkle; "(bug 38152) jquery.tablesorter: Use .data() instead of .attr()" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14150
[21:10:23] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Krinkle; "* Fixed typo in comments." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14150
[21:11:30] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Krinkle; "(bug 38152) jquery.tablesorter: Use .data() instead of .attr()" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14150
[21:11:46] <jenzil>	 ?
[21:11:56] <Reedy>	 "dropdown"?
[21:12:13] <Dereckson>	 jenzil: could you provide us a link to a page with such a dropdown sidebar? I don't see exactly what it could be.
[21:12:35] <jenzil>	 sure
[21:12:38] <jenzil>	 like that here
[21:12:39] <jenzil>	 http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki
[21:12:43] <jenzil>	 left sidebar
[21:12:47] <jenzil>	 click -> drop down
[21:12:52] <Dereckson>	 Oh, yes, it's provided by the Vector interface.
[21:12:59] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Kaldari; "This is great. A couple comments:" [mediawiki/extensions/examples] (master); V: 0 C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13902
[21:13:12] <jenzil>	 ?
[21:13:35] <Reedy>	 !e Vector
[21:13:36] <wm-bot>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Vector
[21:13:58] <Dereckson>	 This is the codename of the "new" MediaWiki interface. This is the new default skin you see, and you've an extension, also named Vector, Reedy pointed to you.
[21:14:00] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Siebrand; "Thank you very, very much for the elaborate review, Alexandre. Very helpful, and I'm pushing an upda..." [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14204
[21:14:04] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Krinkle; "* Rebased due to merge conflict." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14150
[21:14:30] <jenzil>	 did you talk to me? :D
[21:14:33] <Dereckson>	 Yes. 
[21:14:41] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Siebrand; "Maintenance for special pages." [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14204
[21:14:48] <Dereckson>	 This Vector extension is the extension who allow the "dropdown" interface.
[21:15:24] <jenzil>	 a ok
[21:15:37] <jenzil>	 is there a command to install it on linux?
[21:15:49] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) [ReplaceText] Incorrect error: You must select at least one namespace. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38170 normal; MediaWiki extensions: ReplaceText; (fastgoldfish)
[21:16:23] <jenzil>	 or how can i use it? i think its installed it is in the extension folder
[21:17:22] <jenzil>	 require_once( "$IP/extensions/Vector/Vector.php" );
[21:17:27] <jenzil>	 added this one in the last line
[21:18:07] <Dereckson>	 add $wgDefaultUserOptions['vector-collapsiblenav'] = 1;
[21:18:13] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14171
[21:18:52] <Dereckson>	 You could also be interested by the search field at top right. If so, it's $wgVectorUseSimpleSearch = true;
[21:19:29] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Reedy; "Beginning to implement 'viewType' in RequestContext to let MW know what type of view to render (eg standard, print, mobile)." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14268
[21:19:30] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Reedy; "Revert "Beginning to implement 'viewType' in RequestContext to let MW know what type of view to render (eg standard, print, mobile)."" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14269
[21:19:47] <Reedy>	 ffs
[21:20:10] <Dereckson>	 And if you wish to personalized the sidebar items, http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Interface/Sidebar#Customize_the_sidebar will explain you how to do.
[21:20:13] <Dereckson>	 -d
[21:20:15] <jenzil>	 $wgDefaultUserOptions['vector-collapsiblenav'] = 1; $wgVectorUseSimpleSearch = true;
[21:21:07] <Dereckson>	 Aye.
[21:21:35] <jenzil>	 i think it worked :)
[21:21:40] <jenzil>	 added all 3 lines
[21:22:08] <gerrit-wm>	 Change abandoned: Reedy; "(no reason)" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14268
[21:22:12] <gerrit-wm>	 Change abandoned: Reedy; "(no reason)" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14269
[21:22:45] <factor>	 Does mediawiki have an ogg player?
[21:22:51] <factor>	 I have a mp3 player setup
[21:23:15] <jenzil>	 um why doesnt the skin change?
[21:23:22] <Dereckson>	 jenzil: If you give me your wiki URL, I can check with you if it works.
[21:23:31] <jenzil>	 when i log in and change the skin to modern it is modern when i logout it isnt....
[21:23:52] <jenzil>	 im testing it local
[21:24:10] <wikibugs>	 03(FIXED) Add import source for dewikiversity - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38159  +comment (10Raimond Spekking)
[21:24:50] <Dereckson>	 when you're logged all, try to refresh (i) your browser cache (ctrl + maj + r) (ii) the MediaWiki cache of the page you're testing (e.g. /w/index.php?action=purge for the homepage)
[21:26:02] <Dereckson>	 logged out
[21:26:10] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Reedy; "Finish revert of c080c1c5ddc06b69ed265cd6560caf0b5ee61787" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14270
[21:26:32] <jenzil>	 ctrl + maj? + r
[21:26:34] <jenzil>	 whats maj
[21:26:47] <Dereckson>	 ctrl + shift + r, maj is shift in French
[21:26:54] <jenzil>	 ok
[21:27:06] <jenzil>	 it still doesnt change
[21:27:07] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Reedy; "This wants abandoning.. It seems in master it's mostly reverted. Did the rest in https://gerrit.wiki..." [mediawiki/core] (mobilefrontend-core-merge); V: -1 C: -2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/10390
[21:28:00] <Dereckson>	 factor: there haven't really been a nice solution yet. You can import [[en:Template:Listen]] or you can try [[Extension:Player]]
[21:28:59] <jenzil>	 hm i manually change the skin in the localsettings.php but now the sidebar is without dropdown
[21:29:09] <jenzil>	 maybe it has to stay vector so that it works?
[21:29:23] <Dereckson>	 ah yes, that only works with $wgDefaultSkin = 'vector';
[21:29:37] <Reedy>	 DIE RELEASE NOTES DIE
[21:30:04] <factor>	 Dereckson, ok , I will try to make my own mp3/ogg player
[21:30:12] <factor>	 just keep the mp3 one for now
[21:30:14] <jenzil>	 do you know any other way for drop down or something else similar to vector?
[21:30:14] <Dereckson>	 There will be a day someone will consider the release notes have been created to stress test git rebase and the git merge algos.
[21:31:36] <Dereckson>	 jenzil: hmmm... read the Vector extension code and try to do the same for the custom skin / ask the skin author to make his skin compatible with the Vector extension
[21:33:01] <jenzil>	 i will se
[21:33:04] <jenzil>	 *see
[21:33:15] <jenzil>	 but still thanks alot for now..
[21:33:22] <jenzil>	 do you have a good site for skins?
[21:33:31] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Reedy; "(bug 17865) Add a "ParserAfterParse" hook" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11736
[21:33:43] <Reedy>	 !skingallery
[21:33:43] <wm-bot>	 http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Gallery_of_user_styles
[21:34:02] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11736
[21:37:03] <Lcawte>	 Need more user skins, I've never managed to come up with a good design because your always restricted by the fact you need to have Edit, Talk etc links on a page and theres never really a good space to put them
[21:44:29] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Krinkle; "Refresh example extensions:" [mediawiki/extensions/examples] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13902
[21:45:10] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Reedy; "(bug 32382) Allow descending order for list=iwbacklinks" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11742
[21:45:25] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Krinkle; "* Rebased to account for i18n update made recently" [mediawiki/extensions/examples] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13902
[21:46:16] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11742
[21:48:10] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Reedy; "(bug 32381) Allow descending order for list=backlinks, list=embeddedin and list=imageusage" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/6108
[21:48:32] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/6108
[21:52:35] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Reedy; "(bug 32383) Allow descending order for list=langbacklinks" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11743
[21:53:01] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11743
[21:56:10] <wikibugs>	 03(FIXED) ItemViewAction should use Article::view (8) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37682  (10denny vrandecic)
[21:56:35] <wikibugs>	 03(FIXED) Can't show old revisions of Wikibase Items (2) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37681  (10denny vrandecic)
[21:56:57] <wikibugs>	 03(FIXED) refactor Item, split data model from database glue (21) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37748  (10denny vrandecic)
[21:57:14] <wikibugs>	 03(FIXED) Simple language switcher (5) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36424  (10denny vrandecic)
[21:57:29] <wikibugs>	 03(FIXED) Handle item deletion in secondary storage (5) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36428  (10denny vrandecic)
[21:57:48] <wikibugs>	 03(FIXED) Normalize titles and namespaces (5) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36432  (10denny vrandecic)
[21:58:20] <wikibugs>	 03(FIXED) Setting labels should normalize some things, API should return the actual label on success (5) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36439  (10denny vrandecic)
[21:58:47] <wikibugs>	 03(FIXED) Remove edit tab when the page shows an item (3) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37541  (10denny vrandecic)
[21:59:23] <wikibugs>	 03(FIXED) Display labels in special pages (13) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37312  (10denny vrandecic)
[21:59:41] <wikibugs>	 03(FIXED) Display the label of an item in the Recent Changes (1) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37634  (10denny vrandecic)
[21:59:57] <wikibugs>	 03(FIXED) Prevent direct editing of JSON via the APIs edit action (2) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37689  (10denny vrandecic)
[22:00:19] <wikibugs>	 03(FIXED) Site links to some wikipedias can't be added. (5) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37625  (10denny vrandecic)
[22:00:31] <wikibugs>	 03(FIXED) Internationalization of error handling in the existing AJAX interfaces of the repo (8) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36436  (10denny vrandecic)
[22:01:30] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14168
[22:05:11] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: SPQRobin; "Make dates in sortable tables depend on page content language" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14271
[22:05:24] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Reedy; "*(bug 30976) Add maintenance script to remove preferences from $wgHiddenPrefs" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9358
[22:08:44] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Reedy; "*(bug 30976) Add maintenance script to remove preferences from $wgHiddenPrefs" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9358
[22:11:23] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9358
[22:20:30] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) A general interwiki language link to oldwikisource is required - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32189  +comment (10Robin Pepermans (SPQRobin))
[22:24:39] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Data Item DOM for description & aliases should be integrated into existing DOM properly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38145  (10denny vrandecic)
[22:26:08] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Specify language fallback (8) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36430  (10denny vrandecic)
[22:27:44] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Reedy; "Add some explicit member variable definitions" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14272
[22:27:52] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) not obvious you can only add links to existing articles (2) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37509  (10denny vrandecic)
[22:28:22] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) "specify site" may be changed to "language" and "specify page" to "article" (1) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37543  (10denny vrandecic)
[22:28:51] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) make sure page protection works for data items (2) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37588  (10denny vrandecic)
[22:29:46] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) [SF] #autoedit error when user does not have edit permissions (ex: anonymous editing disabled) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38171 normal; MediaWiki extensions: SemanticForms; (fastgoldfish)
[22:32:18] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Reedy; "hook InternalParseBeforeSanitize" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12832
[22:32:31] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) selecting a language by language names does not autocomplete correctly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37730  (10denny vrandecic)
[22:32:53] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12832
[22:35:07] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14165
[22:36:11] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Sorting of Aliases confusing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37770  (10denny vrandecic)
[22:36:36] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Sitelinks structure is broken when returned to the client browser - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37827  (10denny vrandecic)
[22:37:16] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Special character capital A with a circle on top is not displayed correctly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38166  (10denny vrandecic)
[22:38:39] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Special character capital A with a circle on top is not displayed correctly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38166  +comment (10denny vrandecic)
[22:41:26] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) wikidata needs unicode-bidi:embed; for rtl wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37729  (10denny vrandecic)
[22:41:48] <Sid-G>	 Krinkle: hey, u here?
[22:42:03] <Krinkle>	 Yes
[22:42:55] <Sid-G>	 Krinkle: How do I access the text of <p>'s in wikipedia leaving out the child anchors? InnerText gives all the child elements too
[22:43:50] <Krinkle>	 Sid-G: Why do you want to leave out child anchors?
[22:44:08] <Sid-G>	 Krinkle: I need to modify the text without messing the anchor properties
[22:44:19] <Sid-G>	 *messing up
[22:44:27] <Krinkle>	 <p><strong>John Doe</strong> (1234) is an <a href="/wiki/USA">American</a> guy.</p>
[22:44:29] <Sid-G>	 namely href
[22:44:50] <Sid-G>	 I wanna do regex replacement
[22:45:20] <Krinkle>	 Sid-G: Getting text without child elements will not help you then
[22:45:27] <Krinkle>	 because you're going to have to "set" it as well
[22:45:28] <Sid-G>	 ?
[22:45:32] <Sid-G>	 yes
[22:45:38] <Sid-G>	 so what do i need?
[22:45:59] <Krinkle>	 Sid-G: You'll have to loop through the child nodes, filter by node-type textNode, and go from there
[22:46:28] <Sid-G>	 could u tell me how the loop and filter will be made?
[22:47:05] <Sid-G>	 it'll be two lines of code, right?
[22:47:16] <Krinkle>	 no
[22:47:35] <Krinkle>	 The raw element node objects have a property nodeType 
[22:47:55] <Sid-G>	 textnodes will be type 3
[22:47:57] <Sid-G>	 ?
[22:48:06] <Krinkle>	 document.TEXT_NODE = 3
[22:48:08] <Krinkle>	 exactly
[22:49:00] <Krinkle>	 You can use $myParagraph.contents()
[22:49:01] <Krinkle>	 http://api.jquery.com/contents/
[22:49:05] <Krinkle>	 which gives you childNodes
[22:49:07] <Krinkle>	 including text nodes
[22:49:13] <Krinkle>	 but without whitespace nodes 
[22:49:18] <Krinkle>	 then use .filter()
[22:49:22] <Krinkle>	 http://api.jquery.com/filter/
[22:49:26] <Krinkle>	 this.nodeType == 3
[22:49:39] <Krinkle>	 and then .each()
[22:49:41] <Krinkle>	 or actually
[22:49:44] <Sid-G>	 ok
[22:49:46] <Krinkle>	 you can go with .each() right away
[22:49:56] <Krinkle>	 and wrap the inner body function with if ( this.nodeType == 3) { .. }
[22:50:14] <Sid-G>	 $('div#mw-content-text').find('p').each(function(k,v) {if ( this.nodeType == 3) { .. }}
[22:50:18] <Sid-G>	 will this do?
[22:50:40] <Krinkle>	 Don't use "div"
[22:50:43] <Krinkle>	 use use the #
[22:51:07] <Sid-G>	 $('#mw-content-text').find('p').each(function(k,v) {if ( v.nodeType == 3) { .. }}
[22:51:25] <Krinkle>	 But yes, something like that. and then use $(el).text( new text )
[22:51:26] <Sid-G>	 wait a sec
[22:51:32] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Connect repository and client in our test systems - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38172 critical; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; (denny.vrandecic)
[22:51:36] <Krinkle>	 Sid-G: Also
[22:51:40] <Krinkle>	 .text takes a function
[22:51:43] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Connect repository and client in our test systems - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38172  (10denny vrandecic)
[22:51:44] <Krinkle>	 which is used in a loop
[22:51:58] <Krinkle>	 Sid-G: you still need contents()
[22:52:06] <Krinkle>	 inside the p-each
[22:52:19] <Krinkle>	 because the <p> will never be type 3 of course
[22:52:19] <Sid-G>	 yeah
[22:53:02] <Sid-G>	 but text isn't always in the immediate children
[22:53:11] <Sid-G>	 it may be within <b><i>
[22:53:20] <Sid-G>	 contents wont work then, will it?
[22:53:24] <Krinkle>	 no
[22:53:38] <Krinkle>	 you just said you didn't wanted to include child nodes
[22:53:55] <Sid-G>	 i just didnt want to mess with wikilinks
[22:54:47] <Sid-G>	 so, use .find('*') ?
[22:54:49] <Krinkle>	 $('#mw-content-text').find('p').contents().each(function(i, el) { recursiveTextStuff( el ); });
[22:55:15] <Krinkle>	 recursiveTextStuff: if ( el.nodeType == 3 ) { dealWithText(el); } else { $(el).contents().each(function(i, el) { recursiveTextStuff( el ); });
[22:55:18] <Krinkle>	 something like hat
[22:55:19] <Krinkle>	 that*
[22:55:36] <Krinkle>	 oh and you'll need more perhaps
[22:55:43] <Sid-G>	 wait a sexc
[22:55:46] <Sid-G>	 *sec
[22:55:53] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Design grid UI for phase II - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38173 enhancement; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; (denny.vrandecic)
[22:55:54] <Sid-G>	 whats the else for?
[22:56:05] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Design grid UI for phase II (8) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38173  summary (10denny vrandecic)
[22:56:10] <Krinkle>	 nope, that'll do
[22:56:15] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Design grid UI for phase II (8) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38173  (10denny vrandecic)
[22:56:31] <Krinkle>	 Sid-G: Because if it isn't a text node, it will be an element, and you want to loop for text nodes inside that element
[22:56:36] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Design grid UI for phase II (8) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38173  (10denny vrandecic)
[22:56:36] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Implement new Wikidata user interface design (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37771  (10denny vrandecic)
[22:56:39] <Krinkle>	 like you said, <b><i>text</t></b>
[22:56:43] <Sid-G>	 Krinkle: ok
[22:57:42] <Sid-G>	 Krinkle: so this'll allow me to do regex replacements in the entire article?
[22:57:55] <Krinkle>	 Yes
[22:58:03] <Krinkle>	 dealWithText: is where you get/set the actual text
[22:58:41] <Sid-G>	 wait a sec
[22:58:49] <Sid-G>	 how do i do that?
[22:59:12] <Sid-G>	 oh wait nvm
[22:59:31] <Sid-G>	 thanks :D
[23:00:06] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Kaldari; "Refresh example extensions:" [mediawiki/extensions/examples] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13902
[23:00:10] <Krinkle>	 Sid-G: Ah, I just thought of a better way to avoid the recursive/slow loop
[23:00:20] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Design JavaScript API for item (5) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38174 enhancement; MediaWiki extensions: Wikidata; (denny.vrandecic)
[23:00:29] <Sid-G>	 Krinkle: using find?
[23:00:31] <Krinkle>	 $mwContent.find('*').andSelf().contents().each: (same stuff)
[23:00:35] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Design JavaScript API for item (5) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38174  (10denny vrandecic)
[23:01:07] <Krinkle>	 Sid-G: In a way, yes. Though there is no selector for text nodes
[23:01:11] <Krinkle>	 $mwContent.find('*').andSelf().contents().each: (same stuff)
[23:01:24] <Sid-G>	 Krinkle:Could u just write the code? I'll give u the regex :D
[23:01:55] <Krinkle>	 $mwContent.find('*').andSelf().contents().each: if ( el.nodeType == 3 ) { el.text(function (i, val) { return val.replace(//, // ); } ); }
[23:01:58] <Krinkle>	 no, you do it :D
[23:03:42] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Highlight editing context on selection (5) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38175 enhancement; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; (denny.vrandecic)
[23:03:51] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Highlight editing context on selection (5) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38175  (10denny vrandecic)
[23:04:23] <Sid-G>	 Krinkle: what's $mwContent ?
[23:04:30] <Krinkle>	 take a guess
[23:04:59] <Sid-G>	 all the content (including the skin) ?
[23:05:45] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Disabel editing actions when editing context is open (8) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38176 enhancement; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; (denny.vrandecic)
[23:05:54] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Disabel editing actions when editing context is open (8) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38176  (10denny vrandecic)
[23:06:54] <Sid-G>	 Krinkle: where does $mwContent work?
[23:07:23] <Krinkle>	 $mwContent  is a variable name
[23:07:27] <Krinkle>	 ..
[23:07:33] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Wait for AJAX response on editing and reset UI (5) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38177 enhancement; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; (denny.vrandecic)
[23:07:42] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Wait for AJAX response on editing and reset UI (5) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38177  (10denny vrandecic)
[23:07:44] <Krinkle>	 $mwContent  = $('#..')
[23:08:12] <Sid-G>	 TypeError: Object #<Text> has no method 'text'
[23:09:12] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Design JavaScript API for item (5) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38174  (10denny vrandecic)
[23:12:17] <Krinkle>	 Sid-G: I assume you know how to set/get text from a text node. Don't take my code literally.
[23:13:06] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Implement undo for items (13) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38178 enhancement; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; (denny.vrandecic)
[23:13:07] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Implement revert/undo for Wikibase Items (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37683  (10denny vrandecic)
[23:13:16] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Implement undo for items (13) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38178  (10denny vrandecic)
[23:13:58] <Sid-G>	 Krinkle: no i don't know how.
[23:15:45] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Test revert for items (3) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38179 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; (denny.vrandecic)
[23:15:45] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Implement revert/undo for Wikibase Items (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37683  (10denny vrandecic)
[23:15:54] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Test revert for items (3) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38179  (10denny vrandecic)
[23:16:03] <Krinkle>	 https://www.google.com/search?q=return+set+node+value+javascript
[23:16:18] <Krinkle>	 https://developer.mozilla.org/en/DOM/Node.nodeValue
[23:16:37] <Sid-G>	 got it :)
[23:18:01] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Revision history does not use label - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38180 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; (denny.vrandecic)
[23:18:11] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Revision history does not use label - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38180  (10denny vrandecic)
[23:18:30] <Krinkle>	 Now you know :)
[23:18:46] <Sid-G>	 Krinkle: and we're halfway to a gadget :D
[23:19:27] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Kaldari; "Adding a lot more comments and changing Foo RL module to a less abstract example" [mediawiki/extensions/examples] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14273
[23:19:30] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Descriptions and aliases appear in languages that they should not - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38181 major; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; (denny.vrandecic)
[23:19:39] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Descriptions and aliases appear in languages that they should not - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38181  (10denny vrandecic)
[23:20:31] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Review API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38182 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; (denny.vrandecic)
[23:20:39] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Review API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38182  (10denny vrandecic)
[23:20:55] <Krinkle>	 Sid-G: http://cl.ly/0g213R3y2B1P3A0g0M3f
[23:21:02] <Sid-G>	 Krinkle:Now only if we can make a dropdown option menu thingy and bind it to the text replacer, we have a gadget
[23:21:24] <Sid-G>	 a veeeeeeeeeeeeery important gadget
[23:21:42] <Krinkle>	 Sid-G: All I say is: mw.util.addPortletLink; and jquery.ui.dialog and other jquery.ui modules. That should get you there
[23:22:39] <Sid-G>	 not portletlink
[23:22:55] <Sid-G>	 something like the webfonts and narayam menus
[23:22:55] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Implement revert/undo for Wikibase Items (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37683  (10denny vrandecic)
[23:23:16] <Sid-G>	 it needs to be highly visible
[23:23:56] <Sid-G>	 Krinkle: can u guess what this is for?
[23:24:53] <Krinkle>	 I might
[23:24:55] <Krinkle>	 but that's up to you
[23:25:13] <Krinkle>	 Sid-G: Yes, so a portlet link
[23:25:21] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) permissions must be checked on item creation (5) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37989  (10denny vrandecic)
[23:25:37] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) permissions must be checked on item creation (5) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37989  (10denny vrandecic)
[23:27:06] <Sid-G>	 system crashed, brb
[23:28:53] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Kaldari; "Adding a lot more comments and changing Foo RL module to a less abstract example" [mediawiki/extensions/examples] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14273
[23:39:51] <ZombieDan>	 Krinkle, Sid-G: jQuery actually grbs text nodes like that? In any case, jQuery is a really inefficient way to do that.
[23:40:23] <Krinkle>	 ZombieDan: it doesn't include text nodes in regular selections
[23:40:35] <Krinkle>	 find(*) does not include them, for example
[23:41:01] <Krinkle>	 contents(), contrary to children(), was explicitly created to include text nodes.
[23:41:11] <Krinkle>	 e.g. raw .childNodes
[23:41:58] <ZombieDan>	 Ok, well... still, very inefficient
[23:42:19] <Krinkle>	 ZombieDan: I doubt it makes a lot of difference for 1-time execution on a single client. 
[23:42:30] <Krinkle>	 get all elements, get all child text nodes, go
[23:42:34] <Krinkle>	 who would you do it
[23:42:48] <Krinkle>	 I know how to do it without jQuery, but it'd basically be the same
[23:44:06] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) [SF] #autoedit deletes form data - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38183 critical; MediaWiki extensions: SemanticForms; (fastgoldfish)
[23:44:44] <ZombieDan>	 Krinkle: No, I'm not talking about that recursive stuff. You should look into TreeWalker
[23:44:57] <Krinkle>	 OH, sure, that was ineffecient
[23:45:37] <Krinkle>	 but then again, it wasn't created as such from scratch,it naturally developed from a non-recursive one-liner that was perfectly fine
[23:45:51] <Krinkle>	 he didn't mention he needed to include text nodes of child elements until 15minutes in
[23:46:03] <Krinkle>	 quickly after which the better solution came along :)
[23:47:02] <Krinkle>	 ZombieDan: But only in IE10 or IE9+, right ?
[23:47:04] <Sid-G>	 Krinkle: I tried running that code on an article and my system crashed!!!
[23:47:26] <Krinkle>	 Sid-G: which code
[23:47:47] <Sid-G>	 $('#mw-content-text').find('*').andSelf().contents().each(function(k, v) {
[23:47:48] <Sid-G>	 	if ( v.nodeType == 3 ) {...}
[23:47:48] <Sid-G>	 });
[23:47:50] <ZombieDan>	 Krinkle: Sure... you have a quick recursive fallback for the others.
[23:49:14] <Krinkle>	 ZombieDan: Yeah, I usually use the "Crockford walkTheDOM" principle
[23:49:31] <ZombieDan>	 var w = document.createTreeWalker(document.body, NodeFilter.SHOW_TEXT, null, false), node;
[23:49:34] <ZombieDan>	 while ( node = w.nextNode() ) node.nodeValue = 'x';
[23:49:58] <Krinkle>	 walk: firstNode-while-walk-nextNode
[23:50:16] <Sid-G>	 Krinkle: btw, this code will work across major browsers, right?
[23:50:30] <Krinkle>	 Sid-G: Should go all way way up/down to IE6, yes
[23:53:07] <Sid-G>	 Krinkle: ran that in chrome console again. Almost crashed again. End Process'd it before it could take down windows
[23:53:22] <Krinkle>	 which code!
[23:53:35] <Sid-G>	 Sid-G	$('#mw-content-text').find('*').andSelf().contents().each(function(k, v) {
[23:53:35] <Sid-G>	 	Sid-G	 if ( v.nodeType == 3 ) {...}
[23:53:35] <Sid-G>	 	Sid-G	});
[23:53:39] <Krinkle>	 aha
[23:53:47] <Krinkle>	 what's in the if
[23:53:47] <Sid-G>	 that code
[23:53:48] <Sid-G>	 the ... is 10 regex replacements
[23:54:16] <ZombieDan>	 Sid-G: Try this next http://p.defau.lt/?nEImKnbru7n4sODEt8WF0w
[23:54:19] <Sid-G>	 ?!?
[23:54:28] <Krinkle>	 Sid-G: Try on http://jsfiddle.net/
[23:54:29] <Krinkle>	 with a few small paragraphs as sample
[23:54:30] <Krinkle>	 Could be related to your if code
[23:54:34] <Krinkle>	 works fine here..
[23:54:47] <Sid-G>	 it should be === ?
[23:55:09] <ZombieDan>	 Won't matter
[23:55:09] <Krinkle>	 doesn't matter
[23:55:18] <Krinkle>	 ZombieDan: Thats' too complicated for him
[23:55:50] <Sid-G>	 Krinkle: i tried console run on http://hi.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A4%AE%E0%A5%81%E0%A4%AE%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%AC%E0%A4%88
[23:55:56] <ZombieDan>	 Are we not writing real code here?
[23:56:35] <Sid-G>	 Krinkle: You probably know the objective by now
[23:57:04] <Sid-G>	 ZombieDan: Krinkle is right, that's too complicated for me. But I don'
[23:57:18] <Krinkle>	 Sid-G: No, I don't. But the thing is, what you want is insane. This is going to be slow no matter what. It starts to sounds like you are trying to fix a social issue.
[23:57:23] <Sid-G>	 But I don't mind if you two are ready to write the code :D
[23:57:37] <Krinkle>	 and people will see flash
[23:58:03] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Article Feedback Page - Show the user's last post at the top of the page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36649  +comment (10Fabrice Florin)
[23:58:12] <Sid-G>	 Krinkle: Well, it is a social issue no matter what
[23:58:23] <Krinkle>	 Sid-G: Regarding console, I think I know the problem
[23:58:37] <Krinkle>	 If you paste it in the console as it is, it will return the array
[23:58:47] <Krinkle>	 which contains 1000s of elements that your console will try to show in the console preview
[23:59:07] <Krinkle>	 put it in a void function and call that
[23:59:07] <Sid-G>	 It doesn't even complete the run
[23:59:11] <Krinkle>	 I know
[23:59:18] <Krinkle>	 it is fast enough
[23:59:22] <Krinkle>	 the problem is in the console
[23:59:59] <Krinkle>	 Sid-G: btw, this is fixed in Chrome 20, there it just says jQuery[112350] instead of trying to render it