[00:02:40] <Namtnad>	 hmmmm... http://wiki.whatwg.org/wiki/LogoutRelExtension
[00:08:39] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Reedy; "Caused  Fatal error:  Call to undefined method ApiDelete::getErrorsArray() in /usr/local/apache/comm..." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7572
[00:12:40] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Reedy; "Fix for: Fatal error:  Call to undefined method ApiDelete::getErrorsArray()" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15647
[00:13:04] <Reedy>	 AaronSchulz: ^ Fancying CR'ing that so I can merge and push?
[00:13:27] <Reedy>	 AaronSchulz: also, there's a tonne of unlink related errors in the apache logs
[00:13:35] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Reedy; "Fixed in https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15647" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7572
[00:15:20] <haggis>	 Reedy: is there a blockbot
[00:15:24] <haggis>	 for python
[00:15:37] <Reedy>	 no idea
[00:15:38] <haggis>	 where you enter a list of names and it blocks them all with the same length and reason
[00:16:14] <Amgine>	 haggis: you might ask in #pywikipediabot
[00:16:21] <Reedy>	 they dpon't look to have one
[00:16:30] <Reedy>	 Aaron|home: 
[00:16:35] <Reedy>	 [01:13:13] <Reedy> AaronSchulz: ^ Fancying CR'ing that so I can merge and push?
[00:16:35] <Reedy>	 [01:13:36] <Reedy> AaronSchulz: also, there's a tonne of unlink related errors in the apache logs
[00:19:10] <factor>	 Reedy super cool , works great
[00:19:14] <factor>	 the wikieditor
[00:21:54] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15647
[00:22:30] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "Yes, did not verify" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15625
[00:22:35] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Reedy; "Fix for: Fatal error:  Call to undefined method ApiDelete::getErrorsArray()" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf7) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15648
[00:23:09] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) WikiEditor dropdowns should behave normally, closing when they lose focus or when ESC is pressed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32731  +comment (10Mark Holmquist)
[00:23:14] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf7) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15648
[00:25:09] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "add missing description" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15649
[00:25:38] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "Good catch - this should fix it: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/15649/" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15627
[00:50:10] <Sid-G>	 mw.util.addPortletLink('p-personal','#', 'blah', 'p-numconvert','blah', null, '#pt-userpage'); works only for vector right? any place where i can find the appropriate locations for other skins?
[01:24:22] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) API: return a list of supported wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38263  (10jeblad)
[01:26:16] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) wbsetitem does not set bot flag - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38354  (10jeblad)
[01:41:20] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Nikerabbit; "Fix usage of console causing errors on browsers not having it" [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15650
[01:44:12] <Surgo>	 In the Article::newFromTitle() function, what is the IContextSource parameter, exactly? I have a title and I'm trying to just make an article from it.
[01:45:43] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Santhosh; [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15650
[01:49:02] <Surgo>	 looks like I can just use WikiPage::Factory to get a page (which is what I need in the end anyway), but -- if the title points to a non-existent page, does WikiPage.doEdit() still work?
[01:51:23] <Amgine>	 Surgo: have you tried?
[01:51:41] <Surgo>	 my only testability is on my live wiki, so I'm trying to get it right the first time :p
[01:52:32] <Amgine>	 <grins> well, most likely it won't do anything if it doesn't work, and if it does do something it will be the right thing (or easily revertable)
[01:53:14] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Mwjames; "## 1 SMW_SpecialAsk.php / IParam" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15627
[01:53:46] <Amgine>	 Surgo: but it begs the question; why haven't you set up a MW instance?
[01:54:10] <Surgo>	 because this is the first, and probably only, time I'm writing an extension :p
[01:54:33] <Surgo>	 and it's a real pain to make a copy of the live one
[01:56:22] <Surgo>	 hmm, there is a replaceSection but no getSection?
[01:58:00] <Amgine>	 <hmms>
[01:59:24] <Amgine>	 You could just export a selection of the live wiki's articles (say, members of a specific category) using Special:Export, and import on the test instance using Special:Import
[02:00:37] <Amgine>	 Surgo: http://svn.wikimedia.org/doc/
[02:01:01] <Surgo>	 yeah, I am there
[02:01:09] <Surgo>	 WikiPage lets you replaceSection and give it a section ID which is an integer, but I see no way of finding out that list of integers from just a wiki page
[02:02:14] <Surgo>	 hm, there is something in Parser it looks like
[02:02:17] <Amgine>	 Do a search on just section
[02:02:37] <Amgine>	 There's a *lot* of section-related methods
[02:02:45] <Amgine>	 there are
[02:05:52] <Surgo>	 well, nothing on the first page there
[02:06:18] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Mwjames; "Not sure on which one to comment (sorry for posting it twice )" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15649
[02:08:57] <Amgine>	 Alas, (most) everyone is off to Wikimania, and on a Friday night after the official events...
[02:11:38] <Surgo>	 this is really odd. there's all this stuff that takes a section key that's an integer, but nothing I can see for finding these keys
[02:12:10] <Amgine>	 Probably section title.
[02:12:52] <Surgo>	 yeah, probably gets the keys from the title -- but I can't find a function to resolve that information
[02:13:41] <Amgine>	 EditPage::extractSectionTitle  	(  	$   	 text  	 )
[02:16:02] <wikibugs>	 14(WFM) Internal error when viewing Special:Log - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38211  +comment (10Aaron Schulz)
[02:16:09] <Surgo>	 that one returns a string
[02:18:57] <Surgo>	 bleh why bother I guess, I'll just do a string search for my heading
[02:32:25] <Namtnad>	 Hah... beautiful OAuth 2 mandates the use of JSON
[02:49:24] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Nikerabbit; "Good enough for me. Could also add newlines after commas." [mediawiki/extensions/Quiz] (master); V: 0 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15576
[02:53:18] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Enable UserOptionStats extension on Hungarian Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/25302  +comment (10Niklas Laxström)
[03:03:44] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Use a meaningful file name for the download - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30845  +comment (10Santhosh Thottingal)
[03:09:19] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Nikerabbit; "Is this for bug 38370?" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15638
[03:12:40] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Nikerabbit; "Looks okay on quick look." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15639
[03:14:11] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Special:ValidationStatistics should use properly localised time - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38387  +comment (10Aaron Schulz)
[03:35:50] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Allow selecting all namespaces on Special:UnreviewedPages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34568  +comment (10Aaron Schulz)
[03:36:40] <Namtnad>	 Oh /fun/... this would be interesting to implement
[03:44:34] <wikibugs>	 06(LATER) Allow selecting all namespaces on Special:UnreviewedPages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34568  +comment (10Aaron Schulz)
[03:55:48] <Namtnad>	 Heh... after reading the OAuth 2 spec, piles of resources, both the hmac and bearer specs... I feel like expanding the scope of the OAuth project
[03:55:57] <Namtnad>	 Screw simply the API
[03:56:23] <Namtnad>	 OAuth is capable of authenticating the entire system
[04:00:13] <Namtnad>	 In fact... I feel like introducing a scope="*" and using something like "4.3. Resource Owner Password Credentials Grant" to write a browser plugin that would let you log into a MediaWiki installation without the use of cookies
[04:08:11] <Namtnad>	 The browser plugin would detect the API location. Ask you for your credentials. Use the password grant to get an access token. And then instead of using Cookie: it would use an Authorization: MAC that would be used in place of cookie auth...
[04:08:48] <Namtnad>	 ^_^ You could even log in on https:// and securely use http:// without cookie leakage
[04:11:20] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Mwjames; "SRF re-naming tagcloud" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15651
[04:34:02] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Mwjames; "SRF re-naming bibtex" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15652
[04:36:06] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Tim Starling; "Debug console module" [mediawiki/extensions/Scribunto] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15653
[04:37:22] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Tim Starling; [mediawiki/extensions/Scribunto] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15653
[04:38:50] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Mwjames; "SRF re-naming valuerank" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15654
[04:40:03] <Namtnad>	 Hah... beautiful OAuth 2 was written as if intending to replace the way you normally log into a website
[04:42:31] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Mwjames; "SRF re-naming-vcard" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15655
[04:43:32] <Surgo>	 The docs say that sajax_do_call is deprecated and we should use jQuery.ajax instead but, when using the latter, how do we get our scripts loaded in the MediaWiki context? When I use it it doesn't run with that context and doesn't have all the class definitions, etc.
[04:46:39] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Mwjames; "SRF re-naming time" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15656
[04:46:59] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Tim Starling; "Fixed missing resource dependency" [mediawiki/extensions/Scribunto] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15657
[04:47:14] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Tim Starling; [mediawiki/extensions/Scribunto] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15657
[04:51:09] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Aaron Schulz; "Rebased." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12839
[04:58:33] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Mwjames; "SRF re-naming timeline" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15658
[05:06:47] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Mwjames; "SRF re-naming tree" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15659
[05:10:16] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Disable anonymous account creation or enable CheckUser on beta.wmflabs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38391 normal; Wikimedia Labs: General; (jasper)
[05:12:08] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Mwjames; "SRF re-naming slideshow" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15660
[05:20:29] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Mwjames; "SRF re-naming math" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15661
[05:20:57] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) language selection list shows up on the wrong side in RTL locale on tablets - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38392 normal; Wikipedia App: Localization/Translation/Language; (amir.aharoni)
[05:20:58] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Tracking bug for RTL bugs in the Wikimedia Mobile Android app - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34166  (10Amir E. Aharoni)
[05:23:05] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Mwjames; "SRF re-naming outline" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15662
[05:24:50] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Edit link doesn't work on an Android tablet - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38393 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend; (amir.aharoni)
[05:27:07] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Mwjames; "SRF re-naming googlecharts" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15663
[05:30:07] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Mwjames; "SRF re-naming icalendar" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15664
[05:34:24] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Mwjames; "SRF re-naming array" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15665
[06:34:54] <No_one_at_all>	 0.o
[06:35:21] <Frostee>	 YOU FUCKED THIS VERSION UP MAJORLY, CONGRATS
[07:34:43] <Sceiwas>	 Hi, can I translate http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Main_page and 
[07:34:52] <Sceiwas>	 open a new wiki page?
[07:36:28] <Sceiwas>	 Such as http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Main_page\tr
[07:36:37] <saper>	 http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Main_page/tr yes
[07:37:11] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Mwjames; "SRF re-naming jqplot" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15666
[07:37:48] <Sceiwas>	 Okay thank you saper, do I need to translate other API pages, or is it enough to translate only Main Page in order to open a new page
[07:40:27] <saper>	 Sceiwas: as you wish
[07:40:39] <Sceiwas>	 Ok :)
[07:56:41] <Sceiwas>	 I'll ask something about translation, in http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Main_page the top div which starts with "MediaWiki has three outward-facing interfaces..." as you can see has some links to other pages also the whole page too. However my language hasn't got those links what will I do?
[07:58:15] <Sceiwas>	 For example: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Developing_extensions will I write (en)
[08:00:21] <saper>	 Sceiwas: yes, just link to English
[08:00:37] <Sceiwas>	 Okay, thank you :9
[08:23:51] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) jquery.tablesorter sorts incorrectly in non-English context - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34093  +comment (10Michael M.)
[08:23:51] <wikibugs>	 14(DUP) Table sorting javascript sorts incorrectly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38370  +comment (10Michael M.)
[08:26:12] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Installation of computer modern font - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38299  +comment (10Gauravjuvekar)
[08:31:14] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) jquery.tablesorter should guess decimal point and thousand separator from date string instead of global setting - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34093  summary; +comment (10Michael M.)
[08:43:30] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Installation of Computer Modern Unicode font family for SVG rendering - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38299  summary; +comment (10Marcin Cieślak)
[09:01:35] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Tidy occasionally isn't executed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38273  +comment (10Michael M.)
[09:05:27] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Pages with at least an image - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38394 normal; Analytics: ReportCard; (federicoleva)
[09:53:58] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: ckepper; "(bug 30845) fixed for ASCII and latin-1 titles" [mediawiki/extensions/Collection] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15644
[10:01:21] <factor>	 The Extension:Tabber seems to have no code or a deadlink
[10:01:22] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Use a meaningful file name for the download - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30845  +comment (10Christoph Kepper)
[10:01:29] <factor>	 does anyone have access to this code
[10:02:52] <factor>	 oh I found it , the mediawiki link needs updating
[10:03:03] <factor>	 http://code.google.com/p/mw-toolbox/downloads/list
[10:10:49] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Mwjames; "SRF re-naming calendar" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15667
[10:18:08] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) API: return a list of supported wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38263  +comment (10merl)
[10:25:07] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Mwjames; "SRF re-naming graphviz" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15668
[10:38:19] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Mwjames; "SRF re-naming ploticus" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15669
[11:25:25] <Sceiwas>	 Hi can somebody help?
[11:25:34] <Sceiwas>	 I have a weird problem :S
[11:26:44] <Sceiwas>	 I'm trying to use MediaWiki API however after I login vio cURL, it includes a "1" in my return string
[11:26:53] <Sceiwas>	 Is it clarifying?
[11:28:10] <Sceiwas>	 For example, post a http request, which include action=login and format=xml; when I have the output from the wikipedia.org, there is a "1" at the end of the xml
[11:30:00] <Sceiwas>	 Or if format=txt the output is Array(...)1
[11:30:49] <Sceiwas>	 Somebody help?
[11:32:43] <Sceiwas>	 Maybe it is a problem about cURL
[11:32:53] <Sceiwas>	 Noone?
[11:34:02] <Sceiwas>	 Why nobody is writing?
[11:34:55] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Drecodeam; "Upload of Images from Photosets" [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15547
[11:35:11] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) API: return a list of supported wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38263  (10jeblad)
[11:37:47] <Sceiwas>	 Can somebody help?
[11:40:06] <Sceiwas>	 Whatever
[11:40:10] <Sceiwas>	 I did it :D
[11:43:45] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Drecodeam; "Upload of Images from Photosets" [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15547
[12:05:01] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Anomie; "No, but I see it would fix bug 35526. Somehow I missed it yesterday when searching to see if this wa..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15638
[12:09:41] <helpcrypto>	 hello
[12:10:11] <helpcrypto>	 a few days ago i tried to make a "play" button for an ogg file on my wiki
[12:10:59] <helpcrypto>	 with help from here u succeed in having "an speaker" and a link to ogg, but not a play button like in the example for template Listen
[12:11:04] <helpcrypto>	 could you help me?
[12:19:00] <helpcrypto>	 hello Vito, could you help me?
[12:19:21] * Vito  reads

[12:19:53] <helpcrypto>	 have you ever used Listen template?
[12:20:18] <Vito>	 you mean https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Listen ?
[12:20:49] <helpcrypto>	 sure
[12:21:01] <helpcrypto>	 if you look at the basic example
[12:21:05] <helpcrypto>	 a "play" button is shown
[12:21:19] <Vito>	 and you tried to import it on your own wiki
[12:21:23] <Vito>	 but it doesn't work?
[12:21:36] <helpcrypto>	 but in mi wiki it appears as a hyperlink
[12:22:15] <Vito>	 did you import subtemplates but also classes and js on your common.css/js?
[12:22:27] <helpcrypto>	 i think so...this what i did:
[12:22:47] <helpcrypto>	 installed http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ParserFunctions
[12:23:21] <helpcrypto>	 it appears as ParserFunctions (Version 1.4.0) on http://vabariigibellona.org/temp/index.php?title=Special:Version
[12:24:57] <helpcrypto>	 also used http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Export  for Template:Listen and import on Template:ListenSpecial:Import
[12:25:28] <Vito>	 yep, but you didn't anything on mediawiki:Common.css and mediawiki:Common.js, didn't you?
[12:25:57] <Vito>	 try to import mediawiki:Common.css
[12:26:03] <Vito>	 and then see how it works
[12:26:16] <helpcrypto>	 could you explain a bit more?
[12:27:09] <factor>	 Anyone know where I can grab the Semantic Project Management source code for the ext.
[12:28:02] <helpcrypto>	 Vito: you mean to Special:Export mediawiki:Common.css and mediawiki:Common.js and then  Special:Import the generated XML?
[12:28:38] <Vito>	 helpcrypto: try copypasting the content of mediawiki:Common.css on en.wiki into your own mediawiki:Common.css :D
[12:28:55] <helpcrypto>	 ok, hold a sec...
[12:30:56] <helpcrypto>	 and also common.js?
[12:31:17] <Vito>	 at a glance it shouldn't be needed
[12:32:05] <helpcrypto>	 in fact, it already has some content. well...seems that broke the thing
[12:33:24] <helpcrypto>	 now the speaker with the link to the file is not shown
[12:38:25] <Vito>	 helpcrypto: http://vabariigibellona.org/temp/index.php/Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:Mbox
[12:39:16] <helpcrypto>	 ?
[12:40:27] <Vito>	 this template is still missing
[12:41:42] <helpcrypto>	 i just imported it...and removed common.css, as it broke the ogg box on index
[12:41:49] <helpcrypto>	 could you check again?
[12:43:22] <Vito>	 en.wiki's template are a pain for dependances
[12:43:51] <helpcrypto>	 well...actually both seem to be ok (Listen and template), but the play icon is missing
[12:44:54] <Vito>	 classes are definitely needed
[12:46:04] <Vito>	 hey
[12:46:13] <Vito>	 you missed the ogghandler!
[12:46:18] <helpcrypto>	 ¿?
[12:46:24] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Disable anonymous account creation or enable CheckUser - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38391  summary (10Krenair)
[12:47:26] <Vito>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:OggHandler
[12:48:16] <helpcrypto>	 another extension to install?
[12:48:19] <helpcrypto>	 omg...
[12:49:23] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Siebrand; "Add localisation for export formats on Special:Book." [mediawiki/extensions/Collection] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15617
[12:49:26] <helpcrypto>	 downloading...hold a min
[12:50:06] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Siebrand; "Updated patch based on Niklas' comments." [mediawiki/extensions/Collection] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15617
[12:53:01] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Disable anonymous account creation or enable CheckUser - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38391  +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[12:53:43] <[ceradon]>	 Hello.
[12:54:27] <[ceradon]>	 How could I get a template in MW to recognize a specific input then output something once it received that input?
[12:55:20] <[ceradon]>	 {{#if:{{{whatever}}}|whatever|then_do_this}}?
[13:00:44] <Reedy>	  like that
[13:00:46] <Reedy>	 !parserfunctions
[13:00:46] <wm-bot>	 "Parser functions" are a way to extend the wiki syntax. ParserFunctions is an extension that provides the basic set of parser functions (you have to install it separately!).  For help using parser functions, please see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Magic_words#Parser_functions>. For details about the extension, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ParserFunctions>.
[13:03:31] <wikibugs>	 04(REOPENED) Table sorting javascript sorts incorrectly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38370  +comment (10Niklas Laxström)
[13:14:46] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Disable anonymous account creation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38391  summary (10Krenair)
[13:15:08] <helpcrypto>	 Vito: im having some troubles with connectiong ftp right now
[13:15:15] <helpcrypto>	 i have noted the steps you provide
[13:15:24] <helpcrypto>	 thanks a lot, ill try it later
[13:15:29] <helpcrypto>	 thanks again!
[13:17:48] * Vito  was afk 

[13:24:50] <jubo2>	 what is the current system used for the WMF single-sign-on ( extension or core ? ) which wiki hosts the master user file ?
[13:25:13] <Reedy>	 CentralAuth
[13:25:19] <Reedy>	 No wiki hosts the master user file
[13:25:31] <jubo2>	 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?go=Go&search=mw:Extenision:CentralAuth ?
[13:25:38] <Reedy>	 !e CentralAuth
[13:25:38] <wm-bot>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CentralAuth
[13:25:49] <jubo2>	 'ktnx
[13:27:59] <factor>	 Does mediawiki have a logs dir
[13:28:29] <Reedy>	 no
[13:28:54] <factor>	 ok  was trying to find an error in a ext.
[13:29:04] <Reedy>	 !dbug
[13:29:06] <Reedy>	 !debug
[13:29:06] <wm-bot>	 For information on debugging (including viewing errors), see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:How_to_debug . A list of related configuration variables is at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Configuration_settings#Debug.2Flogging
[13:32:06] <factor>	 thanks
[14:04:08] <karima>	 Hello, I'm searching the method to move my extension in another group in the special:version page. For the moment it's in the group "other", how change it ?
[14:06:48] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Nikerabbit; "Thanks for doing that and thanks for Gerrit providing no indication of that." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14614
[14:21:09] <Reedy>	 karima: it depends on what you set in wgExtensionCredits
[14:27:18] <karima>	 Reedy : I think it's in relation with http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Hooks/SpecialVersionExtensionTypes but I cannot find a simple example :/
[14:27:39] <Reedy>	 No
[14:27:49] <Reedy>	 $wgExtensionCredits['specialpage'][] = array(
[14:28:03] <Reedy>	 That hook is to add new types
[14:28:22] <JasonDC>	 HUZZZAH!
[14:28:30] <JasonDC>	 wrong channel...
[14:29:07] <karima>	 hmm... my extension is not only a special page...
[14:30:43] <Reedy>	 It doesn't matter
[14:30:55] <Reedy>	 You can put it in a couple if you want
[14:31:01] <Reedy>	 It's only aesthetics
[14:34:45] <guillom>	 [Wikimania] The "transparency and collaboration in Wikimedia engineering" talk is about to start in room 310. If you have comments / concerns / rants about how Wikimedia engineering communicates with the rest of the community, please come now.
[14:34:56] <guillom>	 Comments / questions / rants from IRC are welcome too.
[14:35:11] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) WikiBhasha does not work with Wikipedia's secure server - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27139  (10mybugs.mail)
[14:38:21] <karima>	 I know I have a little time for the details... or may be with the hook $wgHooks['ExtensionTypes'][] ?
[14:47:37] <Reedy>	 What are you trying to actually do?
[15:02:14] <UltrasonicNXT>	 Does anybody know of a way to add content to the recent changes in an extension? I've found this [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Recentchanges_table] recent changes table, but I'm not sure if inserting into this is the proper way.
[15:08:12] <Reedy>	 Suppose log events would do that
[15:08:32] <Surgo>	 The docs say that sajax_do_call and action=ajax are deprecated and we should use jQuery.ajax instead but, when using the latter, how do we get our scripts loaded in the MediaWiki context? When I use it it doesn't run with that context and doesn't have all the class definitions, etc.
[15:12:02] <UltrasonicNXT>	 Reedy, a google 'mediawiki log events' gave http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Logging_to_Special:Log, which looks like it will do the trick. Thanks!
[15:36:03] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Nikerabbit; "I just filed that bug recently. If it indeed matches, can you add it to commit message?" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15638
[15:39:23] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Siebrand; "Added some FIXMEs." [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15670
[15:40:25] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15670
[15:41:19] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/Collection] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15617
[15:46:17] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) It should be possible to choose the default search (tab/profile) on Special:Search - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38395 normal; MediaWiki: Search; (federicoleva)
[15:46:34] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) It should be possible to choose the default search (tab/profile) on Special:Search - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38395  normal->15enhancement (10Nemo_bis)
[15:50:53] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Results message contains visible <nowiki> tags - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38396 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Renameuser; (porplemontage)
[15:59:45] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Siebrand; "Maintenance for special pages." [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14204
[16:10:10] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) zh-tw interface users are wrongly shown zh-hans instead of zh-hant - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38397 normal; MediaWiki: Internationalization; (federicoleva)
[16:11:38] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) zh-tw interface users are wrongly shown zh-hans instead of zh-hant, message loading sequence doesn't check for fallback translations in mediawiki namespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38397  summary (10Nemo_bis)
[16:13:39] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Internal error when viewing Special:Log - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38211  +comment (10Brandon Sky)
[16:17:20] <Surgo>	 The docs say that sajax_do_call and action=ajax are deprecated and we should use jQuery.ajax instead but, when using the latter, how do we get our scripts loaded in the MediaWiki context? When I use it it doesn't run with that context and doesn't have all the class definitions, etc.
[16:22:14] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) making http://www.wikipedia.org/ mobile friendly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30389  +comment (10Jon)
[16:23:56] <domas>	 what is calling Parser::transformMsg that is not wfMsgReal? 
[16:23:58] <domas>	 sidebar build
[16:23:59] <domas>	 ?
[16:24:06] <domas>	 :(
[16:24:38] <Nikerabbit>	 domas: Doesn't message class do that too?
[16:25:55] <domas>	 sidebar is 9ms, parsing is 8ms
[16:27:20] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) making http://www.wikipedia.org/ mobile friendly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30389  +comment (10Robin Pepermans (SPQRobin))
[16:27:25] <Nikerabbit>	 domas: what are you investigating?
[16:28:55] <domas>	 nikerabbit: each enwiki view brings up a parser and does message transformations
[16:28:57] <domas>	 :)
[16:29:30] <Nikerabbit>	 domas: ah you are still fighting that fight
[16:31:20] <domas>	 "sitesupport-url"
[16:31:25] <domas>	 :)
[16:32:05] <domas>	 oh well
[16:33:09] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Nikerabbit; "Nobody reviews commit messages??" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14507
[16:33:19] <Surgo>	 so, what's the proper, not deprecated way to use Ajax now? The Ajax manual is really tiny
[16:33:39] <domas>	 nikerabbit: that single URL adds what, 5ms? 
[16:33:49] <domas>	 who cares!
[16:35:28] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Belarusian (Taraškievica) /be-tarask/ native name should be capitalized - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38232  +comment (10Robin Pepermans (SPQRobin))
[16:35:29] <Platonides>	 domas, how would sitesupport-url add 5ms?
[16:36:23] <Nikerabbit>	 what is the parser class doing that adds 5ms? just loading all the code?
[16:36:27] <wikibugs>	 14(DUP) Belarusian (Taraškievica) /be-tarask/ native name should be capitalized - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38232  +comment (10Robin Pepermans (SPQRobin))
[16:36:27] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Render interlanguage links in SkinTemplate.php sidebar ucfirst per context language rules - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37705  +comment (10Robin Pepermans (SPQRobin))
[16:37:50] <domas>	 platonides: Parser::transformMsg()
[16:39:05] <domas>	 platonides: whenever Parser::transformMsg() is called for article views, it makes them much much more expensive 
[16:39:22] <domas>	 Parser initialization mostly
[16:39:26] <domas>	 but actual transformation is expensive too
[16:39:52] <domas>	 platonides: e.g. http://p.defau.lt/?5KPzQmUY_FHgj24uPBfuog
[16:41:39] <Platonides>	 the -url messages should just be replaced... :S
[16:42:04] <domas>	 hmmm, I wonder why skintemplate et al don't go via wfMsgReal
[16:42:47] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Unable to open diff in Gerrit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36172  normal->major; +comment (10Niklas Laxström)
[16:44:38] <Platonides>	 domas, isn't sidebar cache working?
[16:44:50] <domas>	 I think it was disabled for past few years 
[16:44:50] <domas>	 :)
[16:45:06] <Platonides>	 what about enabling it again? :)
[16:45:19] <domas>	 in that case I think just removing {{s would work
[16:45:23] <Nikerabbit>	 they they would need to fix the bug when it reverts to defaults every once in while
[16:45:24] <domas>	 who cares about content language in donation link
[16:45:40] <domas>	 :)
[16:45:48] <domas>	 of course, it can be fixed as $1
[16:46:02] <domas>	 all sidebar links can have content language passed as a numeric argument
[16:46:14] <domas>	 that would make sense
[16:46:19] <domas>	 everything else doesn't make sense
[16:46:23] * domas  waves fissts

[16:46:28] <Sid-G>	 need help. The last gadget in http://hi.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A4%AE%E0%A5%80%E0%A4%A1%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AF%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%95%E0%A4%BF:Gadgets-definition isn't showing up in http://hi.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%B6%E0%A5%87%E0%A4%B7:%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%B0%E0%A5%80%E0%A4%AF%E0%A4%A4%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%8F%E0%A4%81#mw-prefsection-gadgets
[16:46:40] <domas>	 nice url sid-g
[16:46:54] <Nikerabbit>	 having the user language as parameter would be nice too
[16:47:04] <Sid-G>	 hehe
[16:47:15] <domas>	 nikerabbit: thats what I'm offering
[16:47:17] <domas>	 as a solution
[16:47:25] <domas>	 because thats the only parameter that is needed in that context
[16:47:26] <Platonides>	 the donation link would always be in content language
[16:47:29] <Sid-G>	 Nikerabbit: u mean the #blah at the end right? I was wondering how to do that
[16:47:33] <Platonides>	 i think you want it in user language instead
[16:47:42] <Nikerabbit>	 Sid-G: nope, $1 and $2 in the messages
[16:47:46] <domas>	 platonides:thats what we're talking about
[16:47:46] <Sid-G>	 nvm
[16:47:55] <domas>	 platonides: if content language is passed as $1 to all those messages
[16:48:01] <domas>	 for sidebar
[16:48:03] <domas>	 then they can use it
[16:48:03] <domas>	 :)
[16:48:21] <domas>	 another way is having actual content language passed as magic variable that doesn't need curly brace expansion
[16:48:26] <Platonides>	 but you already retrieve the message based in the content language
[16:48:38] <domas>	 haha, well, URL points to user language
[16:48:53] <domas>	 but yes
[16:48:53] <Platonides>	 just fill it with expanded copies
[16:48:54] <domas>	 you're right
[16:49:11] <Sid-G>	 non-latin chars are allowed for gadget names right?
[16:52:18] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Nikerabbit; "You are falling in the static inheritance pitfall. Need to make them objects or use static:: availab..." [mediawiki/extensions/cldr] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14480
[16:53:29] * Sid-G  got cut off and didn't get any responses

[16:54:40] <Platonides>	 Sid-G, yes
[16:54:46] <Platonides>	 they should work
[16:55:46] <Sid-G>	 well, the first one i added doesn't show up as an option Platonides
[16:55:51] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Siebrand; "Maintenance for special pages." [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14204
[16:56:38] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Render interlanguage links in SkinTemplate.php sidebar ucfirst per context language rules - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37705  +comment (10Niklas Laxström)
[16:57:06] <Sid-G>	 will logging out and logging back in help?
[16:58:44] <Nikerabbit>	 I just received spam via mediawiki-commits
[16:58:46] <Platonides>	 Sid-G, try doing a null edit
[16:59:04] <Sid-G>	 Platonides: i've already purged it twice
[16:59:40] <Platonides>	 no,  a null edit of MediaWiki:Gadgets-definition
[16:59:50] <Sid-G>	 yes
[17:00:03] <Sid-G>	 isn't that equivalent to purging it?
[17:00:23] <Sid-G>	 doing null edit
[17:00:40] <Sid-G>	 btw, i wrote the space in the gadgetfile name as underscore
[17:00:49] <Sid-G>	 spaces are allowed, right?
[17:01:56] <Platonides>	 a null edit can do some other things that purge doesn't
[17:02:04] <Sid-G>	 ok
[17:02:38] <Surgo>	 hey people are here now! maybe someone knows :)
[17:02:43] <Sid-G>	 stupid q: how does one do a null edit if mw discards them?
[17:03:16] <Surgo>	 What's the proper, not deprecated way to use Ajax now? The Ajax manual is really tiny, apparently sajax_do_call and action=ajax are deprecated, but jquery.ajax doesn't seem to put you in the mediawiki context
[17:03:51] <Sid-G>	 Platonides: does http://hi.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E0%A4%AE%E0%A5%80%E0%A4%A1%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AF%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%95%E0%A4%BF%3AGadgets-definition&diff=1876615&oldid=1876601 count?
[17:04:22] <Platonides>	 yes xD
[17:04:38] <Platonides>	 a null edit is when you open the edit box and press save without changing the text
[17:04:42] <domas>	 heh, http://morepypy.blogspot.com/2012/07/hello-everyone.html
[17:04:44] <domas>	 pure win
[17:04:46] <Sid-G>	 Platonides: added a newline and a 0
[17:04:58] <Platonides>	 yes, that goes uup to the category of edit
[17:07:27] <apergos>	 mw won't show you the edit in the history when you do a null edit, but various things are triggered by the action nonetheless 
[17:07:42] <Sid-G>	 Platonides: mw discards those changes
[17:07:42] <Sid-G>	 Platonides: so how can that help?
[17:08:01] <Sid-G>	 Platonides: does it help despite mw discarding those edits?
[17:08:28] * Sid-G  got cut off again

[17:08:28] <Sid-G>	 brb
[17:08:49] * apergos  wanders off again

[17:09:14] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) CSS seems to be loaded incorrectly for RTL interface - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38294  +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman)
[17:09:52] <Sid-G>	 ok
[17:09:52] <Sid-G>	 anyways, so with the 0 edit, the gadget should've shown up right?
[17:09:57] <Platonides>	 Sid-G, it doesn't save anything, but some caches are reset
[17:10:11] <Platonides>	 try changing the underscore to a space
[17:10:13] <Platonides>	 or removing it
[17:11:38] <Sid-G>	 that was what i had before
[17:11:38] <Sid-G>	 when it didnt work with the space, i converted it to an underscore
[17:11:58] <Sid-G>	 are - supported?
[17:12:32] <Platonides>	 yes
[17:12:36] <Platonides>	 some gadgets above use a -
[17:12:43] <Platonides>	 so it works
[17:12:56] <Platonides>	 what you have should have also been working...
[17:14:26] <Sid-G>	 changing to - now
[17:14:51] <Sid-G>	 it will be really weird if unicode is supported but spaces aren't
[17:24:43] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Render interlanguage links in SkinTemplate.php sidebar ucfirst per context language rules - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37705  +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[17:26:58] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Create Iberocoop: namespace on Meta - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38398 normal; Wikimedia: Site configuration; (patriciomolina)
[17:29:47] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Multiple fallbacks kills server - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38399 normal; MediaWiki extensions: CLDR; (jeblad)
[17:34:52] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Render interlanguage links in SkinTemplate.php sidebar ucfirst per context language rules - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37705  +comment (10Marcin Cieślak)
[17:36:51] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Multiple fallbacks kills server - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38399  (10jeblad)
[17:37:50] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Specify language fallback (8) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36430  (10jeblad)
[17:38:36] <Sid-G>	 Platonides: still doesn't work
[17:38:39] <Sid-G>	 srikanthlogic: have u ever tried adding a non-latin name for a gadget file in Mediawiki:Gadgets-definition ?
[17:39:30] <srikanthlogic>	 Sid-G: nope, is that a problem ?
[17:39:55] <Sid-G>	 srikanthlogic: seems to be
[17:40:20] <Sid-G>	 seems like gadget file names can only be in the latin charset
[17:41:39] <Sid-G>	 Platonides: is this a valid bug?
[17:41:56] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Platonides; "(Bug 35023) The spam blacklist doesn't act on protocol-relative links." [mediawiki/extensions/SpamBlacklist] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15671
[17:43:01] <wikibugs>	 03(FIXED) Failure in the spam blacklist to match protocol relative urls - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35023  summary; +comment (10Platonides)
[17:43:32] <Platonides>	 Sid-G, seems a valid bug to me
[17:43:54] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Can't lock database using Special:LockDB - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38400 major; MediaWiki: Database; (brandonskypimenta)
[17:44:25] <Sid-G>	 or is it likely to be tagged INVALID or something like that?
[17:45:06] * Sid-G  will file this sson

[17:45:53] <Sid-G>	 *soon
[17:46:24] <Platonides>	 I don't think it would be
[17:47:54] <Sid-G>	 trying with latin name with space for now
[17:51:12] <Sid-G>	 Platonides: wouldn't a bug for this be the same as a bug saying that mw message names should be i18n-able?
[17:51:13] <Sid-G>	 and the english name works
[17:53:12] <Sid-G>	 it shows up in the menu
[17:56:04] <karima>	 Hi I ask a little repository for an extension, you know when there is the next "meeting" to have an answer + or - ?
[17:56:48] <RoanKattouw>	 karima: I don't know but I can imagine these processes are delayed because a lot of people are in Washington DC for Wikimania this weekend
[17:57:41] <karima>	 Ok it's logic
[17:57:47] <karima>	 thanks
[18:02:36] <Waldir>	 in a clean wiki installed from the git master repo, the value of the "indefinite" <option> in the "duration" <select> element of [[Special:block]] is "infinite", but in the production wikis (e.g. enwiki) it seems to be "indefinite" (the same as the <option> content). Was this changed recently? How can I find out?
[18:05:34] <Surgo>	 alright, I suppose I'll just use all the deprecated functions because I see no way to accomplish the task with non-deprecated things
[18:08:41] <Sid-G>	 http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/RL/DM lists an mw.user.anonymous function. Does that still work?
[18:10:59] <Surgo>	 you can use the global $wgUser to figure that out too
[18:11:04] <Surgo>	 (I don't know the answer to your question)
[18:11:21] <Sid-G>	 Surgo:  how would i use that in a gadget?
[18:11:31] <Surgo>	 oh, I don't know, I've never used gadgets :(
[18:11:59] <Sid-G>	 hmmm
[18:12:12] <Surgo>	 know anything about using ajax per chance? :P
[18:12:37] <Sid-G>	 the function worked when the script was a userscript. When i moved it to a gadget, the function wont work :(
[18:13:28] <Sid-G>	 is there any other function to detect if the user is logged in or logged out?
[18:14:27] <ashley>	 Sid-G: in JS? try something like mw.config.get( 'wgUserName' ) === null (or if ResourceLoader isn't available, use wgUserName directly)
[18:14:56] <Sid-G>	 ashley: working on gadget in hi-wp, so RL is availaible
[18:15:02] <Sid-G>	 wait a sec
[18:15:10] <Surgo>	 Anyone know the non-deprecated way to make an Ajax function call nowadays?
[18:15:37] <Sid-G>	 ashley: do i have to specify RL in the gadgets-defintion file?
[18:15:49] <Sid-G>	 in Mediawiki:Gadgets-definition that is?
[18:16:51] <Sid-G>	 right now i've added Numeral_converter|Numeral_converter.js should I change it to Numeral_converter[ResourceLoader]|Numeral_converter.js ?
[18:17:15] <ashley>	 Sid-G: I'm not totally sure actually, but I'd assume specifying it wouldn't certainly hurt...I hope :) Krinkle would know more, but he doesn't appear to be around right now
[18:17:38] <Sid-G>	 ashley: he'd be a greeeeat help
[18:17:52] <Sid-G>	 ashley: thnks for the idea. I'll try specifying it
[18:18:01] <ashley>	 Surgo: jQuery.get (or jQuery.post, though you'll prolly want to use the $ alias but I prefer typing "jQuery") with the appropriate params...let me see if I can find you an example
[18:18:17] <Surgo>	 jQuery.get what, though? is it index.php with action=ajax?
[18:18:36] <ashley>	 Surgo: though nowadays the AJAX interface is -- unfortunately, IMHO -- considered deprecated and you're recommended to use the MW API instead
[18:18:56] <Surgo>	 my Ajax function is doing edits, and I have API edits turned off non-administrators for security reasons
[18:19:12] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Special:Contributions no longer shows contributions by name - problems listing contributions stored with user ID = 0 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34873  summary; +comment (10Platonides)
[18:19:44] <Surgo>	 what I tried was jQuery.ajax() to call my php file directly, but when it executes it doesn't run in the mediawiki context so I don't have access to objects, globals, etc...so that didn't work
[18:22:07] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Installation of Computer Modern Unicode font family for SVG rendering - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38299  +comment (10Gauravjuvekar)
[18:23:43] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) localize buttons for Kyrgyz language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38401 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikiEditor; (chorobek)
[18:24:32] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) localize buttons for Kyrgyz language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38401   +i18n (10Chorobek)
[18:25:47] <wikibugs>	 14(DUP) Prior contributions disappeared after account attached to SUL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37735  +comment (10Platonides)
[18:25:47] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Special:Contributions no longer shows contributions by name - problems listing contributions stored with user ID = 0 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34873  +comment (10Platonides)
[18:26:23] <ashley>	 Surgo: http://p.defau.lt/?jZlxhs5bkt_tLo0GoGEn8Q -- something like that should work, I think; let me know if it doesn't
[18:26:55] <Surgo>	 thanks, will try
[18:27:02] <Surgo>	 could take a few
[18:27:09] <Surgo>	 editing a live wiki and my css isn't working
[18:33:30] <Surgo>	 blech, have no idea how to debug my javascript
[18:33:42] <Surgo>	 Those parameters will be passed correctly, yeah?
[18:33:55] <Sid-G>	 Krinkle: hi :)
[18:34:50] <Sid-G>	 Krinkle: made a gadget out of the numeral conversion thingy. It was working as a userscript, but moving it to a gadget is causing problems
[18:35:06] <Krinkle>	 I'm currently at the #wikimania 2012 conference.
[18:35:18] <Sid-G>	 o.o
[18:38:03] <Surgo>	 ashley: that doesn't seem to be the way to pass parameters
[18:38:26] <Surgo>	 other than that, seems to be contacting the function successfully
[18:41:07] <Surgo>	 well, found out how to do params
[18:47:35] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Disable anonymous account creation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38391  +comment (10Jasper Deng)
[18:49:08] <wikibugs>	 14(DUP) Missing account data, contributions and history - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34862  +comment (10Platonides)
[18:49:11] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Special:Contributions no longer shows contributions by name - problems listing contributions stored with user ID = 0 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34873  +comment (10Platonides)
[18:50:44] <Surgo>	 now this is weird -- the resourceloader doesn't seem to be adding the resources I tell it to add when I ctrl+shift+r the page, but it does when I purge it
[18:51:48] <Sid-G>	 Surgo: maybe u have to clear ur cache
[18:51:57] <Surgo>	 isn't that what ctrl+shift+r does?
[18:52:01] <Surgo>	 if not, what is the correct way?
[18:52:08] <Sid-G>	 Surgo: since RL adds all modules in a single file AFAIK
[18:52:14] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Kaldari; "Comment inline" [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master); V: 0 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15547
[18:53:16] <Sid-G>	 depends on ur browser
[18:53:17] <Sid-G>	 go to menu-->option/preferences-->clear browsing data-->clear cache
[18:53:17] <Surgo>	 firefox 10.0.4, I thought that's how you did it there at least
[18:53:23] <Sid-G>	 Surgo: ctrl+shift+r doesn't always work
[18:53:39] <Sid-G>	 Surgo: see [[:w:WP:BYPASS]]
[18:53:51] * Sid-G  waits for the bot to emerge

[18:54:14] <Sid-G>	 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP%3ABYPASS
[18:54:38] <Surgo>	 thanks. must not be the cache but something else, I cleared it and get the same behavior
[18:54:44] <Surgo>	 really weird
[18:55:23] <ashley>	 Surgo: where are you trying to add your module from? is your extension a parser hook, special page or what? can I see some example code?
[18:55:36] <Surgo>	 it's a tag
[18:55:37] <Surgo>	 sure
[18:55:39] <Surgo>	 one sec
[18:56:07] <ashley>	 parser hook, huh? then you need $parser->getOutput()->addModules( 'ext.YourExtensionName' );
[18:57:08] <ashley>	 $parser->getOutput() gets the ParserOutput object, which has an addModules() method that can be used to add modules to the output so that the modules show up correctly (at least that's how it _should_ work, it's been a while since I've messed around w/ parser hooks that need custom CSS/JS)
[18:58:48] <Surgo>	 http://pastebin.com/D9Z3e3v8
[18:59:13] <Surgo>	 I used $wgOut->addModules()
[19:00:26] <ashley>	 yeah, that won't do, you need the ParserOutput object
[19:00:59] <Sid-G>	 ashley: thanks, mw.config.get worked :D
[19:01:05] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Add Argentina in Spanish to the monuments database - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38316  +comment (10Patricio Molina)
[19:01:14] <wikibugs>	 03(FIXED) Fix Romania in the monuments database - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38329  +comment (10Maarten Dammers)
[19:01:22] <ashley>	 also lines 90 & 91 look funky -- hope there's just a typo in there ;) should be like $article->doEdit( params ), not $article.doEdit( params )
[19:01:26] <ashley>	 Sid-G: awesome =)
[19:01:46] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Internal error when viewing Special:Log - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38211  +comment (10Aaron Schulz)
[19:01:55] <Surgo>	 well. made the change and it doesn't seem to have fixed the issue -- why does that make a difference anyway? $wgOut->addModules *used* to work
[19:02:29] <ashley>	 this is a classic, but: tried purging your/the server's cache yet?
[19:02:39] <Surgo>	 my cache yes...server's cache, not so much
[19:02:58] <Surgo>	 oh fun
[19:03:00] <Surgo>	 now it made a difference
[19:03:08] <ashley>	 and I'm not totally sure, but I _think_ it's because ParserOutput and the OutputPage are separate objects and somehow it's related to the loading order or somesuch...
[19:03:14] <Surgo>	 thanks!
[19:03:36] <ashley>	 sorry I can't give you a more in-depth explanation, it's one of those things I've just accepted silently without questioning :-) unlike the decision to move MW's source code to git!
[19:03:51] <Surgo>	 that has broken like every extension download link :(
[19:03:59] <Surgo>	 I tried finding some code examples that use ajax but they're all broken because of that heh
[19:04:03] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Tracking bug for incomplete renames - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38402 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Renameuser; (Platonides)
[19:04:03] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Mis-attributed edits after move into and out of SUL'ed account - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/26793  (10Platonides)
[19:04:05] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Moving edits incomplete and stalled after renaming a user on the WMF's wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/17313  (10Platonides)
[19:04:07] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Account inconsistencies after Wikimedia error during renameuser - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27846  (10Platonides)
[19:04:11] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Tracking bug (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/2007  (10Platonides)
[19:04:45] <Surgo>	 The other thing is -- maybe you can help me with this -- you see the part where I "check permissions" in the loose sense of the term?
[19:04:59] <Surgo>	 that's kind of terrible lol, is there a way to check for edit permissions like that automatically?
[19:06:35] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Mis-attributed edits after move into and out of SUL'ed account - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/26793   +shell; +comment (10Platonides)
[19:07:07] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Tracking bug for incomplete renames - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38402   +shell (10Platonides)
[19:08:09] <Sid-G>	 ashley: hey, the accompanying css of the gadget is automatically added, or does it have to be specified in Mediawiki:Gadgets-definition as a dependancy?
[19:08:35] <ashley>	 I'm not seeing the global $wgUser; declaration anywhere...anyway, you could do a simple $wgUser->isAllowed( 'edit' ) check or maybe use one of those fancy Title methods (getPermissionErrors() or whatnot, can't remember the exact name)
[19:08:48] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Tracking bug for incomplete renames - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38402  (10Krenair)
[19:09:32] <ashley>	 Sid-G: tough question, unfortunately I have to admit that I'm not sure, given it's been a while since I've used the Gadgets extension...and I can't remember the last time I _wrote_ a gadget! try it and see, maybe? (yes, it's bad, but at least it works ;-) though if you break the site too much, users might complain...been there, done that :P)
[19:10:22] <Namtnad>	 ashley: Can you think of any situation where a 3rd party app may be using MediaWiki's API just for doing read-only stuff but want to authenticate anyways just to get something like a higher rate limit?
[19:10:25] <Sid-G>	 ashley: nope, nobody'll even notice if i break stuff ;)
[19:11:37] <ashley>	 Namtnad: sounds unlikely, but not impossible...people are crazy and they do crazy stuff, so that could be an entirely possible situation, although admittedly somewhat of an edge case
[19:11:46] <Namtnad>	 hmmm...
[19:12:50] <ashley>	 I once though of writing an external API for an anti-spam extension; the idea would be that without a token, you can see _very_ little info and you can only make like five queries per day or so; with a token, you can effectively build on top of that anti-spam filter
[19:13:11] <ashley>	 the assumption there being that 1) people/entities with a token are trusted and 2) revoking tokens is easy
[19:13:29] <Namtnad>	 For a moment I thought that could be useful to the whitelisting case where they want to create a bunch of accounts for students, etc... but they probably sign up using the normal system instead of a special client
[19:13:36] <ashley>	 (yes, it's a crazy idea and yes, as such I'll probably finish that project one of these days before the next year)
[19:15:05] <Namtnad>	 AHHHHHHHH!!!
[19:15:13] <Namtnad>	 We DO have a limiter
[19:16:18] <Namtnad>	 Most large list read-api queries have a "No more than 500 (5000 for bots) allowed" limit on their &*limit=
[19:16:35] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: IAlex; "Follow-up Ifa9c55b7 (58852d8): Change one more item to getWatchedItem()" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15672
[19:18:25] <Namtnad>	 ashley: Think a good use case would be allowing an app to register an OAuth client. Ask for a "High query limits" permission to be granted on that oauth client. And then authenticate anonymously just using their client credentials (no user flow) to be able to use the read-api with the bot-level 5000 query limits?
[19:20:00] <ashley>	 Namtnad: interesting workflow, it could work...(OAuth is something I _should_ dig into one of these days, but a day has only 24 hours and at times it feels like I have a gazillion projects on my plate :-|)
[19:20:27] <Namtnad>	 OAuth 2 "4.4. Client Credentials Grant"
[19:21:07] <Namtnad>	 I originally misread that section and thought it was for a different purpose
[19:21:21] <Namtnad>	 But then later re-read it and realized what it really was for.
[19:21:28] <Namtnad>	 ^_^ It's perfect for this situation.
[19:22:35] <Namtnad>	 Unfortunately it means the original use case I had for pywikipedia doesn't fit into any existing OAuth flow T_T
[19:22:37] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Add Argentina in Spanish to the monuments database - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38316  +comment (10Maarten Dammers)
[19:23:03] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Add Chile in Spanish to the monuments database - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38319  +comment (10Maarten Dammers)
[19:26:03] <Surgo>	 is there a version of substr_replace that, when given a substring to replace, will expand the string if the replacement is larger?
[19:26:15] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Sortable search results - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38403 enhancement; MediaWiki extensions: Lucene Search; (wiki)
[19:31:54] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: IAlex; "For consistency of the interface, don't do expensive checks on page view." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15673
[19:34:58] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15673
[19:36:28] <Platonides>	 Surgo, substr_replace seems to do that
[19:37:37] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Kaldari; "Comments inline" [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master); V: 0 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15547
[19:43:45] <Surgo>	 that's what the docs say, and maybe I'm bugged but I can't seem to get that behavior
[19:43:54] <Surgo>	 checked all my input parameters and everything
[19:44:33] <Platonides>	 substr_replace("Foo", "foobar", 2,1) -> Fofoobar
[19:44:41] <Platonides>	 what are you using?
[19:47:25] <Surgo>	 oh, substr_replace doesn't mutate
[19:47:26] <Surgo>	 so silly of me
[19:49:23] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Change automatic user categories of the Babel Extension in es.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38404 normal; Wikimedia: Site configuration; (jem)
[19:50:51] <wikibugs>	 03(FIXED) Change automatic user categories of the Babel Extension in es.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38404  +comment (10Platonides)
[19:52:07] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Kaldari; "Upload of Images from Photosets" [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15547
[20:14:02] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) PNG cannot display thumbnails if the original over 12.5 megapixels - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/18826  +comment (10Brylie Oxley)
[20:14:55] <Sid-G>	 Platonides: hey, apparently the gadget names to be specified are used as CDATA, and hence a very limited number of characters are supported
[20:15:10] <Sid-G>	 must begin with a letter ([A-Za-z]) and may be followed by any number of letters, digits ([0-9]), hyphens ("-"), underscores ("_"), colons (":"), and periods (".").
[20:15:22] <Sid-G>	 no unicode support :(
[20:23:23] <wikibugs>	 14(INVALID) Multiple fallbacks kills server - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38399  +comment (10Niklas Laxström)
[20:29:50] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Kaldari; "A couple comments inline." [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master); V: 0 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15547
[20:31:23] <shepazu>	 anyone here familiar with the SubPageList3 extension?
[20:32:07] <Brooke>	 shepazu: Just ask your question.
[20:33:08] <hexmode>	 any advice on scripting page updates for an upgrade?  I'd like to do something in the DB, but using a bot is gonna be lots easier, I guess.
[20:33:48] <Brooke>	 hexmode: What do you mean by "scripting page updates"?
[20:33:48] <hexmode>	 It'll also make sure I don't screw up the db somehow since MW is the only one writing to it.
[20:34:01] <Amgine>	 I was going to ask that, Brooke.
[20:34:09] <Brooke>	 Amgine: Well, I beat you to it.
[20:34:17] <Amgine>	 Quicker triggers.
[20:34:23] <hexmode>	 Brooke: hey, haven't met you! I'm hexmode ;)
[20:34:33] <Amgine>	 Hexmode, are you here?
[20:34:33] <Brooke>	 hexmode: (o;
[20:34:39] <Brooke>	 HERE.
[20:34:46] <hexmode>	 Amgine: no
[20:34:46] <Amgine>	 exactly.
[20:34:55] <hexmode>	 Amgine: I wish I was
[20:35:00] <Brooke>	 were
[20:35:10] <hexmode>	 But I'm a couple hours  north
[20:35:12] <Brooke>	 It's the subjunctive, y'all.
[20:35:15] <Amgine>	 Ah well...
[20:35:16] * hexmode  sighs

[20:35:24] <Brooke>	 Louder.
[20:35:30] <Amgine>	 <hugs hexmode>
[20:35:33] * hexmode  SIGHS

[20:35:33] <Brooke>	 hexmode: You're upgrading MediaWiki by manually fucking with the DB?
[20:35:38] <Brooke>	 Better.
[20:35:48] <hexmode>	 Brooke: no, I just thought of doing that
[20:35:52] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Global LinkSearch - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38405 enhancement; MediaWiki: Special pages; (wiki)
[20:36:05] <hexmode>	 I'm running update.php, though.  That messes w/ the db
[20:36:29] <hexmode>	 client's db is on 1.11 and I am moving them to 1.19
[20:36:31] <Brooke>	 Right. But update.php was written by competent core developers.
[20:36:50] <shepazu>	 Brooke: I'm using subpages in my site, and I'm trying to use SubPageList3 to list subpages for each level up… so, if my breadcrumbs look like "Top > Topic 1 > Subtopic 5 > leaf 5a", you would have a list for each of those level of the list of subpages for that level (e.g. Subtopic 5 would have a list containing "leaf 51, leaf 5b, leaf 5c, …", and Topic 1 would list "Subtopic 1, …, Subtopic 5")
[20:37:14] <shepazu>	 this actually works ok
[20:37:26] <shepazu>	 but the formatting is strange… 
[20:37:29] <hexmode>	 Brooke: I do know my way around.... :P
[20:37:43] <hexmode>	 but, yeah, a bot is best
[20:38:21] <Brooke>	 A bot to do what?
[20:38:25] <Brooke>	 You're not making any sense.
[20:38:33] <shepazu>	 the list that is output seems to have a nested list, rather than a flat one, even for things on the same level
[20:38:35] <hexmode>	 client has abused mw
[20:38:43] <Amgine>	 Hexmode: I'm still wondering what you need to do to the pages which are specifically related to an upgrade.
[20:38:44] <Brooke>	 And you don't know nearly enough to not break MediaWiki database internals.
[20:38:47] <Brooke>	 Use the API.
[20:39:09] <Brooke>	 shepazu: Is your wiki public? A link would be helpful.
[20:39:45] * hexmode  avoids his "I was MW's first Bugmeister!" and lets Brooke have an exagerated view of his ignorance

[20:40:09] <shepazu>	 Brooke: unfortunately not… maybe I could make a public wiki instance and install this extension, try to reproduce it for debugging
[20:40:14] <Brooke>	 hexmode: Did a lot of DB work in that role, did you?
[20:40:19] <shepazu>	 (but that would be a pain)
[20:41:54] <hexmode>	 Brooke: no, you're right, I didn't.  But I feel like you're treating me as if I'm a complete newbie.
[20:41:57] <shepazu>	 Brooke: to be more precise, the first item on the list is outside the list, the others are output just fine
[20:42:12] <Brooke>	 hexmode: I'm treating you as if messing with the DB is a bad idea, because it is.
[20:42:23] <Brooke>	 It's a giant relational database.
[20:42:31] <Brooke>	 It's trivial to break.
[20:42:36] <Amgine>	 <does it with some regularity, but meh> Different skill sets.
[20:42:45] <hexmode>	 Brooke: ok, moving on. not going to worry about it.
[20:42:46] <ashley>	 Brooke: but isn't breaking stuff fun? (-; also, hi!
[20:42:47] * shepazu  … ♫and that feels so rough♫

[20:42:54] <Brooke>	 ashley: Hi. :-)
[20:43:10] <Brooke>	 Amgine: When's that?
[20:43:12] <shepazu>	 hi, ashley, sent you an email :)
[20:43:28] <hexmode>	 Brooke: Amgine: client has done things like use <anchor>URL</anchor> instead of [URL]
[20:43:34] <hexmode>	 I want to fix that
[20:43:43] <ashley>	 Brooke: I honestly had no idea that WMF wikis' CSS and JS situation was _this_ bad...I was like OMFGWTFBBQ when I took the look at some Wikipedias' CSS and JS pages
[20:43:46] <hexmode>	 and educate them in the wiki way
[20:43:49] <Brooke>	 And you were considering direct manipualtion of the text table?
[20:43:52] <Brooke>	 manipulation
[20:43:53] <Amgine>	 Hexmode: Will be faster to do via bot, sadly.
[20:43:56] <ashley>	 shepazu: yes, I got it and I drafted a reply! now to proofread it...
[20:43:58] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) update.php fails with SQL error because database name is not properly quoted. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38406 normal; MediaWiki: Database; (van.de.bugger)
[20:44:35] <Sid-G>	 hexmode: pywikipediabot should be enough for that
[20:45:04] <hexmode>	 Amgine: sure, but I look at it and say "I should just be able to do SELECT and UPDATE"
[20:45:12] <hexmode>	 I know not to
[20:45:19] <Amgine>	 <grin>
[20:45:22] <hexmode>	 but it is so tempting
[20:45:54] * hexmode  takes his idle thoughts off to his corner and resumes his silence

[20:46:01] <Brooke>	 hexmode: And you'll update the externallinks table?
[20:46:03] <ashley>	 shepazu: replied to you :-)
[20:46:17] <Brooke>	 hexmode: And you'll observe the spam blacklist (if any)?
[20:46:21] <Amgine>	 Nownow... if you're still actually talking...
[20:46:25] <Brooke>	 &c.
[20:46:41] <Nikerabbit>	 ugaga
[20:46:44] <ashley>	 spam blacklist is fun
[20:46:46] <hexmode>	 Brooke, no blacklist
[20:46:56] <hexmode>	 not a public wiki
[20:46:59] <Brooke>	 Nikerabbit: I've seen you all around this weke.
[20:47:00] <ashley>	 especially when EditPage::spamPageWithContent() is fed an _array_ instead of a string as the param
[20:47:00] <Brooke>	 week
[20:47:04] <Brooke>	 But I haven't said hello.
[20:47:04] <hexmode>	 they violated the first rule
[20:47:22] <Brooke>	 Cut a hole in the box?
[20:47:29] <hexmode>	 "don't use mediawiki as a CMS"
[20:47:29] <Brooke>	 Oh, that's the first step...
[20:47:57] <hexmode>	 But I'm glad they did
[20:48:01] <Amgine>	 <notes that Mediawiki *is* a cms>
[20:48:37] <hexmode>	 Amgine: more and more, it is, yes.  But has that note been taken off of mw.o?
[20:48:38] <Nikerabbit>	 Brooke: is that good or bad? :)
[20:48:50] <Brooke>	 Heh.
[20:48:57] <Brooke>	 I was in the elevator with you.
[20:50:10] <Nikerabbit>	 exciting
[20:50:30] <Brooke>	 Yes.
[20:50:38] <Brooke>	 I sat in on Timo and Roan's talk about RL2.
[20:50:54] <Brooke>	 I enjoyed the developers saying that the gadgets configuration page wasn't so bad.
[20:51:04] <Amgine>	 hexmode: of course not. Anyhoo.
[20:51:25] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Nikerabbit; "Nobody reviews the commit summaries?" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14411
[21:14:59] <spectie>	 is there a single-click "delete page and block creator" plugin for recentchanges ?
[21:15:10] <ashley>	 http://ar.wikiversity.org/wiki/%D9%85%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A:Common.js/edit.js -- yay, unused and broken JS...
[21:23:54] <ashley>	 Your edit includes new external links. To help protect against automated spam, please enter the words that appear below in the box (more info):
[21:24:00] <ashley>	 now that^ is very cute
[21:24:11] <ashley>	 shouldn't editinterface global group have skipcaptcha permissions? :)
[21:34:22] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Replace MD5 password hashing with WHIRLPOOL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28419  +comment (10Daniel Friesen)
[21:44:04] <Nikerabbit>	 uga
[21:49:56] <Nikerabbit>	 plop
[21:56:26] <hexmode>	 Nikerabbit: uga plop!
[22:05:17] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "#1: steps to reproduce? Seems to work fine for me." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15649
[22:05:51] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Internal error when viewing Special:Log - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38211  +comment (10Brandon Sky)
[22:08:57] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: John Erling Blad; "Autocomments and summaries for changes through the api." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15675
[22:10:56] <ashley>	 Danny_B|backup: hi! are you around?
[22:14:55] <gerrit-wm>	 Change abandoned: John Erling Blad; "Replaced by https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/15675/" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12025
[22:25:37] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15654
[22:25:37] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15655
[22:25:38] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15656
[22:25:39] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15652
[22:25:39] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15651
[22:27:41] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Replace MD5 password hashing with WHIRLPOOL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28419  +comment (10Tyler Romeo)
[22:27:56] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15658
[22:28:00] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15659
[22:28:04] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15669
[22:28:05] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15668
[22:28:05] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15667
[22:28:06] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15666
[22:28:07] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15665
[22:28:07] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15664
[22:28:08] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15663
[22:28:09] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15662
[22:28:10] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15661
[22:28:10] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15660
[22:31:07] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15625
[22:31:35] <JeroenDeDauw>	 No one going "DAFUIQ"? It's what I did :)
[22:43:49] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: John Erling Blad; "Only a note to self. A new patchset will be uploaded." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15675
[22:47:28] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Nikerabbit; "Added tests that execute each special page as anon and superuser" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15676
[22:50:02] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) SMW should not use $wgTitle - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38407 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; (niklas.laxstrom)
[22:50:30] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Nikerabbit; "Two tests fail until Siebrand's cleanup patch I8dbbb967 is merged." [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15676
[22:51:30] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) unresponsive script message for FF 5.0 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33018  +comment (10Santhosh Thottingal)
[23:00:54] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Nikerabbit; "Should not modify $this->targetValueName" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15677
[23:04:22] <Namtnad>	 Hah... OAuth 2 says "{is|are} beyond the scope of this specification" a whole dozen times
[23:05:46] <Namtnad>	 Hah... it's 13 if you count the time they say "outside the scope of this specification" instead
[23:08:38] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Catrope; "When the main server process is killed, kill the children too" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15678
[23:15:29] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Multiple fallbacks kills server - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38399  (10jeblad)
[23:20:33] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Nikerabbit; "Please explain the logic for "Remove unneeded files with local overrides"." [mediawiki/extensions/cldr] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14758
[23:21:51] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Nikerabbit; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14271
[23:23:21] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Nikerabbit; "I've looked over all the files. Feel free to merge if you don't want to wait review by Trevor." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14057
[23:26:27] <factor>	 Anyone use WikiForum 1.3 I need to reinstall.
[23:26:38] <factor>	 how do I reset it to do the reinstall again
[23:27:58] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Nikerabbit; [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaIncubator] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13420
[23:42:36] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Nikerabbit; "FYI: I don't have all extensions checked out so reverting is much faster than actually fixing stuff." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14614
[23:43:55] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Santhosh; "Remove globals" [mediawiki/extensions/WebFonts] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15679
[23:46:22] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Nikerabbit; [mediawiki/extensions/WebFonts] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15679