[00:00:19] New review: Catrope; "No, I didn't get a chance to poke at this, anyone should feel free to take it." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7986 [00:00:23] New patchset: MarkTraceur; "Add in forgotten callback." [wikimedia/orgchart] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15988 [00:00:37] Change merged: MarkTraceur; [wikimedia/orgchart] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15988 [00:03:12] bsitu: ping re https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7986 (bug 14901) Email notification mistakes log action for new page creation ... Roan won't be working on it. You wrote the original patch. Can I ask you to look at it again during your next 20% day? [00:07:21] sumanah: I could work on it next Tuesday too. I stumbled across it at like 6pm yesterday and didn't feel like diving into this code I didn't write, so I went home [00:08:46] New patchset: Catrope; "Support 'skins' property in migrateGadgets.php too" [mediawiki/extensions/Gadgets] (RL2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15990 [00:11:51] New patchset: Trevor Parscal; "Changed to use MIT license per agreement with the VisualEditor team" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15991 [00:14:37] werdna: bosh, xhr and comet [00:15:02] tx preilly [00:15:06] New patchset: Kaldari; "Changing floating navbars to grey and adding a drop shadow." [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15992 [00:15:07] New patchset: Kaldari; "Removing red color for "New editor" per design meeting" [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15972 [00:15:08] werdna: np [00:15:33] New patchset: Kaldari; "Restricting to configured namespaces and removing color flags in article list" [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15993 [00:16:51] werdna: take a look at https://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=14218138919 [00:17:02] werdna: for a little overview of what they do [00:17:10] sweeet [00:18:39] 03(NEW) Gaelic WebFont missing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38480 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WebFonts; (xensyria) [00:18:41] New review: Jforrester; "Content. :-)" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15991 [00:23:41] New patchset: Kaldari; "Changing floating navbars to grey and adding a drop shadow." [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15992 [00:23:49] Change merged: Krinkle; [mediawiki/extensions/SyntaxHighlight_GeSHi] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15982 [00:24:59] New review: Catrope; "I consent to my contributions being relicensed under the MIT license." [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master); V: 0 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15991 [00:25:39] New review: Katie Horn; "This won't actually work for a solution to the problem described in https://mingle.corp.wikimedia.or..." [mediawiki/extensions/DonationInterface] (master); V: 0 C: -2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14522 [00:25:46] New patchset: Catrope; "Export subpages of MediaWiki: pages too (for translations)" [mediawiki/extensions/Gadgets] (RL2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15994 [00:26:40] New review: MarkTraceur; "Could we add some information about rationale, etc., somewhere? I'm sure there's a good reason, but ..." [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15991 [00:26:46] marktraceur: could you update https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Gerrit_project_ownership#Move_branch_svg-chart_to_be_new_master.2C_get_rid_of_old_master_.28orgcharts.29 with the current status of that request so I know what to bug whom about? :-) [00:27:14] sumanah: General rule of thumb is to bug ^demon about everything, alla time [00:29:13] New patchset: Trevor Parscal; "Changed to use MIT license per agreement with the VisualEditor team" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15991 [00:29:57] 03(mod) Gaelic WebFont missing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38480 normal->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [00:30:58] New patchset: Krinkle; "Drop the .js extension from Gadget definition: page names" [mediawiki/extensions/Gadgets] (RL2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15984 [00:31:12] New review: Trevor Parscal; "I've added to the commit message to describe why this is important. Please +1 this change so we can ..." [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master); V: 0 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15991 [00:31:45] New review: MarkAHershberger; "I do prefer GPL, but, given my minor contribution, I really don't want to hold my preference over an..." [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15991 [00:32:13] Change merged: Krinkle; [mediawiki/extensions/Gadgets] (RL2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15984 [00:33:17] New review: MarkTraceur; "After bringing out some more information, I'm satisfied enough to accede, though I'd also prefer GPL." [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15991 [00:33:20] New review: Jforrester; "I remain content, with the improved commit message. Also, gerrit really should understand if it's ju..." [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15991 [00:33:33] 03(mod) Addition of a Gaelic WebFont - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38480 summary (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [00:34:22] New patchset: Krinkle; "Disable $wgGadgetEnableSharing by default" [mediawiki/extensions/Gadgets] (RL2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15995 [00:34:27] 03(mod) Addition of a Gaelic WebFont - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38480 (10xensyria) [00:34:49] Change merged: Catrope; [mediawiki/extensions/Gadgets] (RL2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15995 [00:35:05] New review: MarkTraceur; "Jforrester, not when the commit message was the thing that needed review, as here :)" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15991 [00:35:07] Change merged: Krinkle; [mediawiki/extensions/Gadgets] (RL2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15987 [00:38:19] New patchset: MarkTraceur; "Make sure location and loccode get rendered right" [wikimedia/orgchart] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15996 [00:38:44] Change merged: MarkTraceur; [wikimedia/orgchart] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15996 [00:39:08] New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Add C util to publish stdin over ZeroMQ" [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15997 [00:39:30] Change merged: Catrope; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14884 [00:40:10] 03(mod) Implement admin_tree browsing in the monuments api - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38313 +comment (10Arthur Richards) [00:58:03] New patchset: Catrope; "Removed Special:VisualEditorSandbox and refactored demo" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13308 [00:58:44] Change merged: Catrope; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13308 [00:59:30] New review: Catrope; "Is this still being worked on? If not, please abandon this change" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14003 [01:11:36] New review: Catrope; "CCing all team members so they can read this commit and laugh. You don't have to actually review thi..." [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15456 [01:12:13] New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Add C util to publish stdin over ZeroMQ" [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15997 [01:12:52] Change merged: Catrope; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14603 [01:19:45] Hi ryan. I have configured my LDAP properly but its showing me an error while linking through a proxy. [01:19:50] Can you please help me out? [01:20:38] New review: Catrope; "Broken, see inline comment" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master); V: 0 C: -2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13315 [01:20:55] Can you please tell me what parameters are to entered in $wgLDAPSearchStrings and $wgLDAPSearchAttributes. [01:21:18] I have read up your documentation properly. but i am not able to understand if both parameters are required at the same time [01:21:51] New review: Catrope; "Does this depend on the QUnit upgrade in https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/13315/ ?" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15220 [01:23:47] New patchset: Trevor Parscal; "Renamed ve.ce.Document.css to ve.ce.DocumentNode.css to match it's contents" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15998 [01:29:04] Change merged: Catrope; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15998 [01:31:00] New patchset: Trevor Parscal; "Fixed typo in checking for console.log capability" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15999 [01:32:14] Change merged: Catrope; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15999 [01:40:33] 03(mod) Remove articles matching SQL LIKE pattern - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/5835 (10Emufarmers) [01:47:25] 03(WONTFIX) Addition of a Gaelic WebFont - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38480 +comment (10Siebrand) [01:54:12] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15941 [01:56:21] 03(mod) Addition of a Gaelic WebFont - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38480 (10xensyria) [01:58:07] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15878 [02:02:08] New review: Siebrand; "Not sure if I understand correctly, but are you caching all result rows for 24 hours, and do you not..." [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15879 [02:02:39] Hey. Can anyine help me out with LDAP config? [02:03:12] I am able to configure it to return true but i am not able to get the authentication done [02:05:15] 03(NEW) play button overlay wrong in fullscreen - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38481 normal; MediaWiki extensions: TimedMediaHandler; (j) [02:11:31] New patchset: Catrope; "Bug 33088 - VisualEditor: Editing a part of text of a link doesn't work (or this shouldn't be allowed)" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14108 [02:12:18] New review: Catrope; "I fixed the code to use this.data, and laid out the commit summary a bit more nicely." [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14108 [02:14:50] Hi. in LDAP, if i have to create a sysop that exists in the AD? does that mean i have to create a profile exactly like my LDAP one in media wiki also? [02:17:01] 03(NEW) Queries with latest SMW 1.8-alpha and Vector skin cause a weird gap below tabs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38482 major; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; (yaron57) [02:18:48] 03(mod) Queries with latest SMW 1.8-alpha and Vector skin cause a weird gap below tabs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38482 +comment (10Yaron Koren) [02:29:09] New patchset: Catrope; "Revised inspector iframe construction to allow multiple inspectors to be added." [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15827 [02:30:51] New review: GWicke; "We chatted about this on IRC- the HTML ones will be needed for parser hook handling. I think we shou..." [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14859 [02:32:04] New review: Catrope; "Two minor things but looks great otherwise" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15827 [02:37:21] Change merged: GWicke; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15678 [02:42:19] New review: GWicke; "The parser files should at least be dual-licensed so that they can later be GPL-licensed in line wit..." [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15991 [02:45:17] New review: GWicke; "I would prefer to hold this until we actually use it for unit tests. Lets keep things simple for now." [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14436 [02:46:41] 03(mod) Remove articles matching SQL LIKE pattern - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/5835 +comment (10Isarra) [03:06:55] Hi i need some help configuring LDAP with media wiki.Is there anyone? [03:09:53] New patchset: Anomie; "(bug 30836) API siteinfo specialpagealiases should not return nonexistent special pages" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16001 [03:10:28] 03(mod) meta=siteinfo expose aliases of non-existing special pages/magicwords and parser functions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30836 +comment (10Brad Jorsch) [03:10:44] 03(mod) API showing internal error with ?action=query&meta=siteinfo&siprop=specialpagealiases&format=xmlfm - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38464 +comment (10Brad Jorsch) [03:12:50] New review: Anomie; "The problem in bug 38464 was that some special pages (provided by some extensions) don't actually ha..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16001 [03:17:14] New patchset: GWicke; "Document GPL license for Parsoid" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16002 [03:18:28] Change merged: Catrope; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16001 [03:19:12] New review: GWicke; "Quickly merge this so that it is in before the VE relicensing" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16002 [03:19:13] Change merged: GWicke; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16002 [03:20:15] New review: GWicke; "Just added license files for Parsoid in https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/16002/, so this won't app..." [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master); V: 0 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15991 [03:32:18] 03(mod) Colon (:) & semicolon (;) shouldn't output as HTML definition list when used for indentation, boldfacing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/4521 (10mybugs.mail) [03:41:05] New patchset: Trevor Parscal; "Added .jshintrc and .jshintignore and fixed tons of linting warnings" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16003 [03:44:36] 03(mod) Make "unreviewed" a filter instead of the default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36640 +comment (10Oliver Keyes) [03:50:27] 04(REOPENED) The fix of the "move" bug fixed it too well - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36617 +comment (10Oliver Keyes) [03:55:21] New patchset: Krinkle; "Updated QUnit to 1.9.0" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15219 [03:58:08] New patchset: Krinkle; "Updated QUnit to 1.10.0pre" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15219 [03:58:53] New review: Jforrester; "Phantom slugs in paragraphs after the end of the list after double-enter:" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15455 [03:59:37] 03(mod) Addition of a Gaelic WebFont - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38480 +comment (10Santhosh Thottingal) [03:59:59] New patchset: Krinkle; "Updated QUnit to 1.10.0pre." [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15219 [04:00:21] Change merged: Krinkle; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15219 [04:01:08] New review: Tim Starling; "Globally managed interlanguage links were already implemented in the Interlanguage extension, and th..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14084 [04:03:48] 03(mod) Addition of a Gaelic WebFont - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38480 +comment (10Santhosh Thottingal) [04:06:23] New review: au; "My work has always been under CC0 (public domain declaration), which is upwards compatible with MIT ..." [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15991 [04:07:02] 03(NEW) Change the "what's this?" link - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38483 normal; MediaWiki extensions: ArticleFeedbackv5; (okeyes) [04:08:45] New review: Tim Starling; "This looks like half a change. Where is the calling code?" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14295 [04:09:08] New review: Catrope; "Removed Adam and Subbu from the list because they have only contributed to Parsoid, and the license ..." [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master); V: 0 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15991 [04:10:04] > VisualEditor is more than just an awesome editor for MediaWiki, it's the new editor for the entire internet. [04:10:07] * Brooke blinks. [04:10:21] Brooke: Trevor is ambitious :) [04:10:39] New patchset: Catrope; "Fix bug where pressing Enter in a nested list inserted paragraphs in weird places" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16004 [04:10:40] New patchset: Catrope; "Let Tab and Shift+Tab trigger indentation again" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15457 [04:10:41] New patchset: Catrope; "Work around crazy list rendering bug in Firefox" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15456 [04:10:47] RoanKattouw: I haven't had a chance to talk to you. I sat in on your RL2 talk. :-) [04:11:06] RoanKattouw: I was lolling at the guys who kept suggesting that adding a better UI was silly. [04:11:13] Dude I heard you were at the conference but I didn't see/notice you at all [04:11:13] Heh, yeah [04:11:16] "It's easier than JavaScript!" "What's wrong with the current UI?" [04:11:47] Yeah, we didn't get a chance to talk. :-( [04:11:50] Next time! [04:11:59] I'm not sure I've ever met Timo. [04:12:17] He was there, did you see him? [04:12:21] Is VE abstracted enough that it could support non-wikitext? [04:12:25] Yeah, I saw both of you speaking. [04:12:26] He's the dude with shoulder-length hair [04:12:29] Just didn't say hi. [04:12:32] Aye. [04:12:33] Yes, VE is a generic HTML-in-HTML-out editor [04:12:40] Hmmm. [04:12:50] The next... what's the other horribly popular WYSIWIG. [04:12:51] We send the HTML back to Parsoid for wikitext conversion [04:13:11] CKEditor? [04:13:17] * RoanKattouw barfs [04:13:19] TinyMCE. [04:13:22] That was the one I was thinking of. [04:13:29] Right, I've never used that one [04:13:42] Is the plan to have a public Wikimedia instance of Parsoid, then? [04:13:53] I don't really understand how third-parties will use VE. [04:13:56] Not directly, why? For 3rd parties? [04:13:58] Yeah I don't either [04:14:01] Heh. [04:14:08] I hope I'm wrong about the langlinks thing [04:14:08] Parsoid is gonna be ported to C too [04:14:09] Comments like that scare me. (-; [04:14:16] I'm still kind of in the dark about that [04:14:23] James_F is pushing people to think about that [04:14:47] if I'm not wrong, I'm going to have something to say to all the people who have given it +1 in gerrit [04:14:47] About the Parsoid instance dependency? I should hope so. It's not really scalable or sane... [04:14:48] But Lua has the same problem too [04:14:56] TimStarling: Which changeset? [04:15:16] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/14084/ [04:15:18] what does +1 mean anyway? [04:15:30] Reviewer has a working mouse. [04:15:57] TimStarling: "Looks good to me but I am unwilling or unable to actually approve this" [04:16:06] Jereon strikes again. [04:16:34] "the code looked good when I looked at the syntax highlighted code from a distance of 10m, lots of pretty green and orange" [04:16:45] RoanKattouw: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear_of_commitment ;) [04:17:42] I mean, if you don't say what depth of review you did to arrive at the +1, what is the point of it? [04:17:48] True [04:17:49] how does it help the person who has meant to give it +2? [04:18:02] s/has/is [04:20:42] the challenge with reviewing that code is the same as with the other wikidata stuff I've been asked to look at, i.e. it's only half there [04:20:55] TimStarling: We're using it for the re-licensing confirmation for VE quite usefully. [04:21:03] to know if the interfaces are correct you have to know what justification there is in the calling code [04:24:43] is it possible for a bot to retrieve the list of wanted categories? [04:25:06] Queryable special pages? [04:25:10] Yes [04:25:10] Depends on the version of MW, I think. [04:25:20] It's a relatively recent feature, isn't it? [04:25:20] action=query&list=querypage&qpquerypage=wantedcategories or something [04:25:22] 1.18, maybe? [04:25:31] Yes [04:25:38] okay - this is for a 1.19.1 install - so should work [04:26:09] but was told elsehwere it couldn't be done..they were probably thinking of an older version [04:28:20] ~ . [04:29:05] oh [04:32:27] Change merged: Santhosh; [mediawiki/extensions/Narayam] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15884 [04:32:36] Brooke: BTW, it's "$wgVisualEditorParsoidURL = 'http://parsoid.wmflabs.org/';" default in VisualEditor.php [04:32:50] We should probably warn users about that on install. :-) [04:32:51] James_F: An, thanks. :-) [04:32:55] Ah * [04:33:11] Is there a bug about the Parsoid instnace dependency? [04:33:19] Hi Vyznev. [04:33:34] 'Cos pushing wikitext<>HTML over the public Web (and not even HTTPS) is, umm, somewhat surprising if you've done a private local install. [04:33:39] New patchset: GWicke; "Add localhost prefix pointing to http://localhost/w by default" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16005 [04:33:54] Brooke: No, I don't think so. [04:33:56] Change merged: GWicke; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16005 [04:35:51] Change abandoned: Amire80; "These tests were based on incorrect understanding of this layout. I'll start it from scratch." [mediawiki/extensions/Narayam] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15531 [04:39:34] 03(mod) Some vowel combination in Sinhala Wijesekara need to be corrected - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32029 +comment (10Amir E. Aharoni) [04:39:51] James_F: That's probably a bad default setting [04:40:23] RoanKattouw: You think? :-) [04:40:35] Certainly, I imagine Ryan might want to complain at us if we do that. :-) [04:40:53] 03(NEW) VisualEditor extension requires a Parsoid instance to handle wikitext - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38484 normal; VisualEditor: General; (b) [04:41:11] I filed a generic bug. [04:41:13] Brooke: Is that a bug? [04:41:20] Heh. [04:41:22] It sounds to me like a statement. [04:41:35] (NEW) MediaWiki requires a PHP instance to work. [04:41:37] ;-) [04:42:05] I clarified that it was only the wikitext that's causing the problems. [04:42:21] If you wanted to use VE with just HTML (as Roan suggested), that'd work in theory. Or will one day. [04:43:01] Yeah the MW integration part of VE isn't well-separated right now [04:43:06] But there is a VE sandbox that is MW-independent [04:43:27] Being a MW extension and all, I'd think the separation would be rather difficult. [04:43:29] VE as an extension for MW requires MW to provide a Parsoid-like wikitext<>HTML service. [04:43:51] VE is a product that we're developing in-line as an extension. [04:44:13] 03(mod) Change the "what's this?" link - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38483 +aftv5-1.5 (10Oliver Keyes) [04:44:28] James_F: I don't even have a witty reply to that stupid distinction. :-( [04:45:09] * James_F shrugs. [04:45:42] I heard TimedMediaHandler is getting some love soon. [04:46:58] Indeed. [04:57:41] New patchset: SPQRobin; "Add language converter for Uzbek." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15690 [05:10:24] 03(mod) Some vowel combination in Sinhala Wijesekara need to be corrected - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32029 15enhancement->normal (10Amir E. Aharoni) [05:27:14] New review: Tbleher; "This change (verified by git-bisect) causes a fatal error on my wiki: " [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15627 [05:44:30] New review: Mwjames; "It would seem that the problem described by Tbleher is not directly related to this change but due t..." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15627 [05:45:26] 03(mod) Changes in Wikimedia-RU mailing lists - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38291 +comment (10Sergey Leschina) [05:47:05] Hey anyone can help out with LDAP config? [05:49:16] New review: Tbleher; "The specific query that fails is" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15627 [05:59:50] Hello again! Yesterday I asked about a problem with my imported german Wiki. Informatations: I'm using Win7, imported the dump via shell and mwdumper.jar. [06:01:45] The Problem: I can't open Pages like "Glucuronsäure", because they have an "Umlaut" (or any other special chair). Wenn I try to open "Glucurons├ñure" it works. So there seems to be an problem with character encoding in the Database. [06:02:07] using mysql.exe I queried [06:02:22] mysql> SELECT (page_title) FROM page WHERE `page_title` LIKE "Glucurons%ure"; [06:02:22] +----------------+ [06:02:22] | page_title | [06:02:22] +----------------+ [06:02:22] | Glucurons├ñure | [06:02:22] +----------------+ [06:02:35] So the problem seems to exist in the Database. How can I fix it? [06:03:07] that looks like the usual latin1 vs. unicode fun [06:03:28] thanks to php it's common enough that people wrote scripts to fix it [06:03:33] thanks to php it still happens. [06:04:21] php is an... intresting language, yes. Where do I find the scripts to fix it? [06:05:11] on the internet ;) I don't know, but I've seen the fallout of this "interesting" idea more than once [06:11:42] New review: Santhosh; "Cleaned up the code, removed some unwanted code." [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15872 [06:15:41] Change merged: Santhosh; [mediawiki/extensions/TranslationNotifications] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15862 [06:19:04] I seem to have double-encoded utf-8 strings... [06:19:19] New patchset: jan; "Add patches to the installation and update-procedure" [mediawiki/extensions/Poll] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16006 [06:24:28] New patchset: jan; "Add patches to the installation and update-procedure" [mediawiki/extensions/Poll] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16006 [06:26:09] Change merged: jan; [mediawiki/extensions/Poll] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16006 [06:31:56] 03(NEW) Fatal error: Cannot redeclare class SFUploadWindow in /extensions/SemanticForms/specials/SF_UploadWindow.php on line 1102 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38485 normal; MediaWiki extensions: SemanticForms; (mel197127) [06:32:36] is there a way to increase how much time a wiki will spend doing scary transclusion - sometimes they seem to get cutoff and not complete the full "scary transclusion" process - so only 3/4 of the page loads [06:33:32] Okay, thanks. I found a script, that was reported to work. It first sets the caracter-encoding to latin1 (de-encodindes utf8 once), then to binary, then again to utf8. [06:34:40] I don't think scary transclusion has any configuration variables. [06:34:45] Besides the enable/disable switch. [06:34:57] "Cutoff" is kind of vague. You'll need to debug the problem. [06:35:11] It could be a PHP timeout. Or a curl timeout or whatever scary transclusion uses. [06:35:14] Thanks for the help! [06:35:30] it has the cache expiry setting - but that doesn't seem to impact here - my thinking is it's the timeout [06:36:06] Probably. I don't think the feature controls the timeout. Probably a PHP setting or a server setting. [06:36:07] Brooke: http://www.wikiqueer.org/w/Lady_Gaga - loads most of the transcluded page..but doesn't quite finish the job.. [06:36:28] I'm going to play with the php settings - see if that helps [06:36:46] Hmm. [06:36:56] Truncation doesn't seem like a timeout issue. [06:37:09] You'd expect it to timeout in a much nastier way, I think. [06:37:09] I need to dive into the scary transclusion code sometime..but it's scary..so.. :) [06:37:16] Does it only do it with long articles? [06:37:24] yeah [06:37:25] It could be a transfer size thing. [06:37:46] the strange thing is..if you do set the cache expiry time to like 60 seconds..it generally solves it..for some reason [06:37:52] Is the content length cut off at the same size? [06:38:02] Hmm. [06:38:11] Hot data? [06:38:33] Scary transclusion is scary; film at 11. [06:38:38] usually cuts off at about the same place [06:38:45] exactly - and the coding for it is probably even scaier [06:38:48] *scarier [06:38:51] 03(mod) Store urls from $wgAllowExternalImages in some link tracking table - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38468 +comment (10Subfader) [06:39:29] What's the point of transcluding the content? [06:40:01] vs. import? being able to display and supplement content from enWP dynamically - help feed editors to the original enWP article rather than have a duplicate effort [06:40:11] in this instance anyway [06:40:22] Seems like something better done via JS or something. [06:40:39] New review: IAlex; "Still -1 per the second part of my comment on the first patchset." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13627 [06:40:44] Live mirror or whatever? [06:41:05] yeah - it hasn't been much of an issue until lately - so hasn't been a need to come up with a different solution - but this may force my hand on that.. [06:41:15] The red links don't bother you? [06:41:38] not really [06:41:56] varnent: possibly a size limit [06:42:10] varnent: thanks to idiots writing code MW will not warn if it cuts off data [06:42:29] so, you will get the first 100 results, even if there are 125, and no way to figure out that it was trunca [06:42:37] varnent: I'd be more concerned with your wiki taking 15 seconds to render a page. [06:42:40] [06:42:43] That's painful. [06:42:45] Logged out. [06:42:52] You may need better hosting or something. [06:42:52] yeah - I just turned off all our caching to test something [06:42:56] Oh. [06:42:56] Heh. [06:43:01] and we just switched a server, etc. [06:43:40] I'm looking at some other hosting ideas though - Linode has been good - but I'd like more CPU power [06:44:18] well, scary that it relies so much on caching to get performance up to barely tolerable levels [06:44:32] varnent: dedicated servers maybe? ~100Eur/mo can get you some really nice toys [06:45:05] bonsaikitten: we've got some grants out that would bump up our resources tremendously - until them - I'm cheap :) [06:45:18] ideally a dedicated server is what we'd like [06:45:25] for now..we're cheap Linoding it [06:45:54] Bareboning and barebacking. [06:46:03] whatever it takes [06:48:22] Brooke: I would be happy if I could get all page views below 15 seconds - currently thanks to SemanticMW it's rather slow, one page I've managed to press down to 38 seconds [06:48:35] which is better than the 57 seconds before I started tuning it [06:48:48] 57 seconds? [06:48:50] Good grief. [06:49:07] we're usually under 10 seconds - most are under 5 - but it's not an exact science yet [06:49:20] ~25k DB queries ... and it's using the CPU nicely, "only" 3.6Ghz [06:54:10] hey . can anyone help me out with LDAP config with media wiki? [06:56:19] New review: Nikerabbit; "The number values and the state are part of the cache key. If any of those changes the key will be d..." [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15879 [07:04:43] Hi everyone, first time here :) [07:06:59] Hi mikioini, if you have a question, go ahead, don't ask to ask. [07:08:07] 03(mod) Typing ओं is not possible in hindi transliteration - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38238 +comment (10Shantanoo) [07:09:10] i facing problems converting from dokuwiki to mediawiki [07:09:20] hello. is there a way to make a box around the text i write on mediawiki? [07:10:29] does anyone know the use of $wgLDAPSearchAttributes [07:13:29] when i import converted text file from dokuwiki , found that the link can't link to actual page because of case sensitive, can anyone help ? [07:16:19] !e LdapAuthentication | aswamina [07:16:19] aswamina: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:LdapAuthentication [07:18:17] aswamina: //Search filter. [07:18:17] //These options are only needed if you want to search for users to bind with them. In otherwords, [07:18:20] //if you cannot do direct binds based upon $wgLDAPSearchStrings, then you'll need these two options. [07:18:26] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:LDAP_Authentication/Configuration_Options [07:18:54] Hi saper, i have been going through these docs for the past 2 days. [07:19:03] somehow i can never get my LDAP link right. [07:19:23] what do i put at $wgLDAPPreferences [07:19:27] example: [[DEMO]] can't link to page name "demo" , because files from dokuwiki all in lowercase, so after imported all file's name all in lowercase but , in mediawiki the link not auto converted like dokuwiki does [07:19:48] do i let sAMAccountName remain like that? [07:19:50] or replace it? [07:20:51] can mediawiki disable link case sensitive ? [07:23:04] hi saper, you there? [07:25:52] aswamina: partially, I need to go [07:26:09] aswamina: I have no idea what is your LDAP schema, that's the tarting point [07:26:12] it gives me the following in the debug log: basedn is not set for this type of entry, trying to get the default basedn. Entering getBaseDNCouldn't find an entry [07:26:25] Fetched username is not a string (check your hook code...). This message can be safely ignored if you do not have the SetUsernameAttributeFromLDAP hook defined. [07:26:34] ya. i wont take too much of your time. [07:26:47] do i let sAMAccountName remain like that in the config? [07:27:12] for any ldap search, you need to tell which (1) attributes you want (2) what is your seach base (3) what is authentication (4) what is your actual query [07:27:32] aswamina: I would try to get working ldap queries with "ldapsearch" first [07:27:36] in which parameter do i enter this? [07:28:24] i have my base, where do i enter my actual query? [07:28:53] what is the authentication meaning i used tls encryption. that one? [07:38:54] 03(FIXED) Addition of CU logs to list of user links in Special:Contributions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37573 (10Marcin Cieślak) [07:48:33] Hi, [07:48:33] Does someone know what is going on with http://smwplus.com? Just downtime or something else? [07:50:03] mcheijink: I have no idea about who maintain that site [07:50:30] Do you know if SMWplus has a channel here on freenode? [07:51:03] mcheijink: the domain smwplus.com has expired [07:51:26] mcheijink: currently in redemption period, aka it is on hold for a period of 30 days after it expired [07:51:55] allright, thats strange [07:52:07] mcheijink: anyway, if that is related to semantic mediawiki, you can try in #semantic-mediawiki [07:52:11] or ask their mailing list [07:52:20] repost: can mediawiki disable link case sensitive ? [07:52:37] thank you hashar, i also asked there :) [07:53:25] 04(REOPENED) Translatable pages and FlaggedRevs don't play nice together - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33385 +comment (10Niklas Laxström) [07:54:39] mikioini: I am not aware about that, that is defacto based on case [07:58:43] hashar: do u know any solution for that ? all my imported page can't link because of case problem. [07:59:10] can you state some examples please ? [08:00:25] New patchset: Nischayn22; "Proper sorting of properties in Special Properties" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16007 [08:03:18] hashar: example: # [[DEMO]] can't link to page name "demo", or # [[DeMo]] to demo etc. [08:03:29] yeah indeed [08:05:10] New patchset: Nikerabbit; "Update Norwegian translations of datatypes" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16008 [08:05:23] mikioini: we don't have any support for that. It can possibly be hacked though [08:05:27] but nothing build in :/ [08:05:31] New patchset: IAlex; "No need to call parseTitle() directly in MediaWiki::__construct()." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16009 [08:05:36] Hashar, i just found out that the company behind SMWplus went bankrupt, and that another company just took over a couple of product groups. But not SMWplus, so that sucks.. [08:05:54] mcheijink: maybe they will get the domain too :) [08:06:06] mikioini: so there is no real solution to your problem :/ [08:06:31] http://www.semafora-systems.com/en/home/news/news-en/semafora-takes-over-ontoprise/ [08:06:37] It doesnt seems like it.. [08:06:41] New review: Nikerabbit; "Btw this file should be renamed from 'no' to 'nb' to match MediaWiki core changes." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16008 [08:06:47] hashar: thanks hashar [08:08:53] New patchset: Hashar; "Changed to use MIT license per agreement with the VisualEditor team" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15991 [08:11:06] New review: Hashar; "Patchset 2:" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master); V: 0 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15991 [08:12:29] New patchset: Nischayn22; "Fixing errors in hooks and bug 38418" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16010 [08:13:01] New review: Hashar; "The new patchset cleaned out the reviewer list, sorry :-( I am wondering if we should use git Sign-O..." [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master); V: 0 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15991 [08:14:09] Ldap help anyone? i have been configuring for about a day and a half now . it just doesnt work. [08:19:18] New patchset: Hashar; "(bug 38333) test blocked user cant createaccount" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15587 [08:19:35] Change merged: Hashar; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15587 [08:23:53] 03(NEW) Pseudolocalisation system to check text swell, unicode problems etc. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38486 normal; MediaWiki: Internationalization; (federicoleva) [08:24:10] 03(mod) Pseudolocalisation system to check text swell, unicode problems etc. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38486 normal->15enhancement (10Nemo_bis) [08:37:36] Change abandoned: Nischayn22; "submitting better change soon" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16007 [08:38:18] New patchset: Nischayn22; "Proper sorting of properties in Special Properties and no default limits`" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16012 [09:02:50] 03(NEW) Remove button for from toolbar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38487 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikiEditor; (listenleser) [09:05:48] 03(mod) Mixed directionality of AFT - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38474 +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [09:07:35] 03(mod) Mixed directionality of AFT - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38474 +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [09:07:58] 03(mod) Mixed directionality of AFT - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38474 +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [09:14:03] New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Add C util to publish stdin over ZeroMQ" [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15997 [09:14:59] New patchset: Hashar; "(bug 27936) Improve parser handling of nested braces." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8511 [09:15:01] New review: Hashar; "squashed in Id7ec4e69" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8560 [09:15:10] New review: Hashar; "squashed in Id7ec4e69" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8553 [09:15:21] 03(mod) Missing image on Wikimedia Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38469 +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [09:17:17] got a bug/problem that i can't seem to find any info on anywhere on mediawiki.org… i've got "Error creating thumbnail:" when users try to upload pics, but no second part to the error message (can't find imagemagick, for instance) so no idea what's causing it. [09:17:37] New review: Hashar; "Patchset 4:" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8511 [09:18:25] on all images ? so no [09:18:30] thumbnails whatsoever ? [09:19:17] New patchset: Hashar; "(bug 35060) Adding more allowed params for Special:MyPage, Special:MyTalk" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/5138 [09:22:01] 03(mod) Typing ओं is not possible in hindi transliteration - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38238 +comment (10Amir E. Aharoni) [09:32:06] New review: Pginer; "Regarding the name, this kind of functionality is often referred to "humanize". So "humanized timest..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15746 [09:34:08] 03(NEW) Summary does not use language direction - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38488 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; (jeblad) [09:35:02] skud: is that a file-type-specific problem? [09:36:00] bnm: hmmm, not sure, but definitely happens with JPGs which are our main uploads. [09:36:25] New patchset: Hashar; "(bug 35060) more allowed params to Special:MyPage, Special:MyTalk" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/5138 [09:36:40] well, knowing that would help narrow the problem [09:38:20] New review: Hashar; "Patchset 7:" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/5138 [09:44:43] and another thing. i'm doing some work on a site where they modified monobook in situ, so i'm trying to break it out into a new theme. i copied everything to MySite.php, MySite.deps.php, and mysite/ then did a s/// on MySite.php to s/monobook/mysite/g and s/Monobook/MySite/g. then I updated LocalSettings.php to point to mysite… and it doesn't work. [09:45:05] specifically, I get an unthemed page, devoid of menus and nav links and CSS. [09:45:11]