[00:00:32] 03(NEW) chunkUpload broken with swift backend - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38511 normal; MediaWiki: File management; (j) [00:21:11] New patchset: Kaldari; "Update PageTraige to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf7) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16096 [00:21:38] Change merged: Kaldari; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf7) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16096 [00:22:23] New patchset: MaxSem; "Work around PECL Sphinx connector bug" [mediawiki/extensions/GeoData] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16097 [00:26:02] New patchset: Trevor Parscal; "Converted some instances of "var\t" to "var "" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16099 [00:30:07] New patchset: Catrope; "Revised inspector iframe construction to allow multiple inspectors to be added. Create inspector elements in the propper document scope. Restore inspector css classnames to camel case for proof that inspectors are being created in the correct document s" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15827 [00:30:30] Change merged: Catrope; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15827 [00:33:26] Change merged: Kaldari; [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16065 [00:35:30] New patchset: J; "(bug 38511) fix chunk upload with swift backend" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16100 [00:37:14] New patchset: Kaldari; "Add {{Article issues}} support to tag wizard" [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15240 [00:39:00] Change merged: Kaldari; [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15240 [00:43:03] Change merged: Catrope; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16099 [00:44:19] Change merged: Catrope; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14886 [00:46:16] New review: J; "$this->mLocalFile = parent::stashFile();" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16100 [00:48:51] 03(mod) "review" action not displaying in the logs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37890 +comment (10Oliver Keyes) [01:03:45] New patchset: Catrope; "Split canHaveSlug() into canHaveSlugBefore() and canHaveSlugAfter()" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16102 [01:03:45] New patchset: Catrope; "Do not put slugs after nested lists" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16103 [01:03:46] New patchset: Catrope; "Make Enter in an empty list item unindent" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16004 [01:04:28] New review: Catrope; "This is fixed in https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16004 (pressing Enter inserts weird paragraphs) and ..." [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15455 [01:20:49] 03(mod) Inconsistently named IRC recent changes channels - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28276 summary; +comment (10Danny B.) [01:21:26] Krinkle: since you can edit initialisesettings, you may like to take a look at ^^ [01:31:24] Danny_B|backup: It's in Gerrit, so so can you :) [01:31:53] Krinkle doesn't actually have shell access, so he has the same rights re InitialiseSettings as you [01:32:25] Yep, just clone the repo and make a merge request. [01:32:50] git clone ssh://gerrit.wikimedia.org:29418/operations/mediawiki-config.git [01:34:40] Hi Ryan. I am running LDAP config on my media wiki page. Everytime i enter, it says entering authenticate and then the next step is it says entering connect. It doesnt authenticate the username with the password. [01:35:09] then you don't have php ldap support [01:35:10] well, since i had no time to sit down with somebody during wm to help me with setting it all up and explain the basics, i can't... :-/ [01:35:37] But according to your docs, if i dont have LDAP support it says i dont have in the debug log right? [01:35:39] otherwise i wouldn't poke Krinkle with a wish to do so [01:35:44] It's pretty easy to do if you're on Linux or Mac OS. On Windows it's harder [01:35:47] only if it properly detects it [01:35:48] and did it myseld [01:36:02] if it doesn't get past connect, then you are missing ldap support [01:36:02] RoanKattouw: yup yup, guess why i don't have it yet? ;-) [01:36:12] Yeah thought so [01:36:17] Danny_B|backup: Its no different then a patch for an extension or mediawiki core. Just another git repo. [01:36:48] i don't have git nor gerrit. i had already troubles with installation and running in berlin hackathon [01:36:52] Oh ok. i ll try that and get back. And can you also tell me in the $wgLDAPPreferences field do i enter my actual email,nickname or just let it be sAMAccountName? [01:37:22] 03(NEW) Enable the New Pages Feed feature on en.WS - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38512 normal; Wikimedia: Extension setup; (Birgitte_SB) [01:38:15] 03(mod) Enable the New Pages Feed feature on en.WS - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38512 (10Jennifer Zagurski) [01:39:36] New patchset: Catrope; "Fix selectNodes bug where selecting
  • returned an empty result" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15454 [01:39:36] New patchset: Catrope; "First stab at list indent/outdent" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15455 [01:39:37] New patchset: Catrope; "Make Enter in an empty list item unindent" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16004 [01:39:39] New patchset: Catrope; "Fix bug with nested lists in getCoveredSiblingGroups()" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15452 [01:39:39] New patchset: Catrope; "After finding a zero-length selection between nodes, return immediately" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15453 [01:39:40] New patchset: Catrope; "Split canHaveSlug() into canHaveSlugBefore() and canHaveSlugAfter()" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16102 [01:39:41] New patchset: Catrope; "Do not put slugs after nested lists" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16103 [01:39:41] New patchset: Catrope; "Let Tab and Shift+Tab trigger indentation again" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15457 [01:39:42] New patchset: Catrope; "Work around crazy list rendering bug in Firefox" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15456 [01:41:05] Hey, where i can install the php Ldap support? [01:42:00] 03(mod) SemanticForms throws Fatal error in MediaWiki < 1.17 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38477 summary; +comment (10Krinkle) [01:43:17] Hey Ryan.Where could i find how to get php to support LDAP? [01:43:30] read the requirements section of the documentation [01:43:36] it has appropriate steps [01:43:45] Thank you. [01:45:11] also about the $wgLDAPPreferences field, can you tell me if it has to have actual values? or let it remain "email"=>"mail","nickname"="sAMAccountname" ? [01:46:03] 03(mod) jquery.tablesorter should not interpret data-sort-value without leading zeros - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38370 summary; +comment (10Krinkle) [01:46:50] New patchset: J; "(bug 38511) fix chunk upload with swift backend" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16100 [01:51:20] 03(mod) Touch screen interface for "hovering" or cueing pop-ups fails - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30191 (10Jennifer Zagurski) [01:54:56] New patchset: J; "cleanup temp files left around by UploadStash" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16104 [01:55:36] 03(mod) SVG thumbnails should not be rasterized - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38508 (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [01:56:39] 03(UNCONFIRMED) [Regression] jquery.ui.slider brakes IE9 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38500 -upstream ; summary; +comment (10Krinkle) [01:57:20] 03(mod) [Regression] jquery.ui.slider breaks in IE9 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38500 summary (10Roan Kattouw) [02:00:29] is there some way to change the output formatting of subpage breadcrumbs? I'd like to have each page output as list items [02:02:12] 03(NEW) Exception thrown in IE9 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38513 critical; MediaWiki extensions: ArticleFeedback; (krinklemail) [02:02:32] 03(mod) 'jquery.articleFeedback' module throws exception in IE9 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38513 summary (10Krinkle) [02:04:01] is there someone who can help out with letting php support ldap? [02:17:18] 03(NEW) Parsoid does not parse pipe trick - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38514 normal; VisualEditor: Parser/Parsoid; (roan.kattouw) [02:23:48] hi [02:24:02] azzura, I'm guessing but do what http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:LDAP_Authentication/Requirements does? [02:24:21] I installed the Nuke extension and it shows up under Special:Verison but Special:Nuke shows no such page. I'm using version 1.6.7 and can't update at the moment =\ [02:26:54] 03(mod) interwiki "links to" / whatlinkshere - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/1886 +comment (10Krinkle) [02:30:32] have you used config with LDAP before? i need little help pls? [02:31:52] azzura: My company uses an LDAP extension (written by a previous employee) -- I don't know much about it, but I know it took some time to get working [02:32:03] sorry, never have. That extension's author is sometimes around in IRC but not I think right now. [02:32:49] hi danile do you by any chance know how the config works? because its jut 5 lines of code and i cant seem to get it to configure correctly. [02:33:43] 03(mod) Translatable pages and FlaggedRevs don't play nice together - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33385 +comment (10Aaron Schulz) [02:33:45] azzura: let me have a look... [02:33:51] thanks a lot [02:34:04] 14(INVALID) Special:ValidationStatistics should use properly localised time - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38387 (10Aaron Schulz) [02:34:39] Krinkle: can you look at https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37149? [02:35:47] 03(mod) Can't install FlaggedRevs extension with SQLite - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37921 +comment (10Aaron Schulz) [02:37:50] azzura: I don't think I'm going to be much help - none of this makes sense to me either! [02:39:07] maybe someone on the mailing list would know more...I suggest joining and sending an email to mediawiki-l ( http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mailing_lists ) [02:39:10] ok successfully upgraded, but it seems most pages were made by individual users, so Nuke wont work [02:39:47] Ya i did that already :) but can you just check your config and tell me the 2 fields i asked for atleast please? coz i want to know if i am going in the right direction [02:40:03] hrm, it only looks in recent changes? well that sucks.... [02:40:25] 03(mod) Internal error when viewing Special:Log - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38211 +comment (10Aaron Schulz) [02:47:02] New review: Aaron Schulz; "All this code is pretty hacky...I guess this is OK." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16104 [02:47:04] Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16104 [02:47:24] hrm is there at least an extension that adds a simple 'Spam' button to easily delete a page and mark it as spam? heh [02:48:15] New review: Spage; "When I run zvlog something sets errno though return status is OK." [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15997 [02:49:11] gerrit-wm Y U embarrass me :-! [02:52:15] man i cant even tell if im making a dent in these spam pages [02:59:21] does anyone know where I could find a detailed explanation of the inner workings of various software package-management systems (such as apt-get, yum, etc.) ? [03:00:53] omfg i think there are something like 1700 spam pages.... [03:01:17] no way i can do this by hand [03:02:33] there are literally only like 5 real pages i want.... [03:04:38] wm-bot seen preilly [03:06:33] can I just remove the entries in the page database? [03:07:44] !seen preilly [03:09:59] New patchset: Drecodeam; "Defined functions for adding Map to every image detail section" [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12353 [03:11:19] hrm anyone got any usefull userscripts for deleting pages? [03:41:43] 03(mod) [Regression] jquery.ui.slider brakes IE9 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38500 +code-update-regression; summary; +comment (10Krinkle) [03:42:18] 03(mod) [Regression] jquery.ui.slider breaks IE9 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38500 summary (10Krinkle) [03:46:43] 03(mod) i18n "int-hack" does not work very well in JavaScript.... - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38381 normal->15enhancement; +comment (10Krinkle) [03:47:55] 03(mod) PHP Notice: Undefined index: href in /www/w/skins/Vector.php on line 416 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38334 normal->04BLOCKER (10Krinkle) [03:48:01] 03(mod) PHP Notice: Undefined index: href in /www/w/skins/Vector.php on line 416 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38334 +code-update-regression (10Krinkle) [03:49:24] 03(mod) Gettings messages via JavaScript - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38280 (10Krinkle) [04:01:08] 03(mod) Implement mw.Api convenience method for loading interface messages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38280 -i18n ; summary; +comment (10Krinkle) [04:03:57] 03(mod) Move the mediawiki.api.titleblacklist module to TitleBlacklist extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38244 summary (10Krinkle) [04:04:46] New patchset: Spage; "More gnu-like Makefile" [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16105 [04:10:22] 03(NEW) Mobile version does not display input forms - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38515 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend; (robinp.1273) [04:24:22] 14(INVALID) Romanized keyboard layout for Newari has wrong input rules - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35748 +comment (10Santhosh Thottingal) [04:38:21] Hi, I need to write a authentication plugin for mediawiki in my school. This plugin will authenticate user via CAS. After authentication, the user need a new username to be binded with the ID from CAS. I wonder if there's a similar plugin from which I can learn. [04:43:05] Coiby: perhaps the LDAP authentication extension? [04:51:31] Jasper_Deng: I'm trying. Thanks:) [05:16:14] 03(NEW) Enable HSTS on Wikimedia wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38516 normal; Wikimedia: SSL related; (dragonlordofxanther) [05:20:37] Krinkle: are you here? [05:22:57] 03(mod) Overlapping Text and Text crossing the borders. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36572 +comment (10Santhosh Thottingal) [05:27:17] Heh. [06:31:24] New patchset: Nischayn22; "Remvoing special Sortkeys for predefined props" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16106 [06:32:20] New patchset: SPQRobin; "Make DateFormatter work in any language, by default in the page content language" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9610 [06:33:05] 03(mod) Words in place names in an RTL script appear in the wrong order on the maps - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34201 +comment (10Tomasz Finc) [06:33:18] New review: SPQRobin; "Test added in new patchset" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9610 [06:40:41] 03(mod) extract2.php: Implement 304 caching - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38168 (10Krinkle) [06:42:11] 03(mod) Enable HSTS on Wikimedia wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38516 +comment (10MZMcBride) [06:42:33] Reedy: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38516 [06:42:41] Reedy: Do you know if my comment is right? [06:44:26] New review: SPQRobin; "Hmm, the parser tests parse it in English, even though the page on the wiki correctly parses it in D..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9610 [06:45:29] 03(ASSIGNED) Update QUnit test suites to use new non-global and assert-object pattern - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37390 (10Krinkle) [06:46:15] 03(mod) Update QUnit test suites to use new no-globals and assert-object pattern - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37390 summary (10Krinkle) [06:47:35] 03(FIXED) MediaWiki bugs to be fixed for 1.20wmf4 deployment (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36974 (10Krinkle) [06:52:42] 03(mod) Enable HSTS on Wikimedia wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38516 +comment (10Krinkle) [06:55:04] 03(mod) [SiteMatrix] Update pt.wikimedia (moved outside WMF cluster) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34371 normal->major (10Krinkle) [07:20:48] 03(mod) interwiki "links to" / whatlinkshere - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/1886 +comment (10Jan Ainali) [07:33:58] 03(WONTFIX) Startup module shouldn't contain config - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37295 +comment (10Krinkle) [07:36:32] 03(mod) Run refreshImageMetadata.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30961 +comment (10Krinkle) [07:36:56] oh ffs. [07:40:20] 03(mod) jquery.suggestions should obey maxRows setting - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37316 +comment (10Krinkle) [07:43:24] 14(INVALID) Global LinkSearch - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38405 +comment (10Krinkle) [08:09:36] 03(NEW) Permanent link to prefilled APISandbox doesn't work with lists - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38517 normal; MediaWiki extensions: ApiSandbox; (listenleser) [08:10:26] New review: Nikerabbit; "Raimond, Siebrand: should fuzzy the new messages to be safe when importing this change." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16040 [08:11:41] New patchset: Henning Snater; "JavaScript support for protected page" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16109 [08:17:29] New review: Nikerabbit; "Release notes?" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16044 [08:21:05] 03(NEW) Special/Contributions does not show (20 | 50 | 100 | 250 | 500) when max is set to a number higher than total contributions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38518 trivial; MediaWiki: Special pages; (rschnautz) [08:22:17] 03(mod) Special/Contributions does not show (20 | 50 | 100 | 250 | 500) when max is set to a number higher than total contributions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38518 (10Rob Schnautz) [08:22:27] 03(NEW) Double escaped HTML entities with action=parse&prop=languageshtml - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38519 normal; MediaWiki: API; (listenleser) [08:24:13] New patchset: Nischayn22; "Implementation of Property count" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16111 [08:40:08] Anyone here with experience in semantic wikis? I could need some help. Thanks to everyone in advance who has a look into it: http://www.mwusers.com/forums/showthread.php?18143-Semantic-Search-implementation&p=62047#post62047 [08:58:14] New review: Nikerabbit; "Please explain the use case. Lots of stuff would be broken for groups that are not registered to Tra..." [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (translatesvg); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16076 [08:59:36] New patchset: Nischayn22; "Remvoing special Sortkeys for predefined props" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16106 [09:06:58] 14(WFM) Internal error when viewing Special:Log - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38211 +comment (10Brandon Sky) [09:07:38] New review: Markus Kroetzsch; "Small change, otherwise looking good." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16106 [09:16:11] New patchset: Nischayn22; "Remvoing special Sortkeys for predefined props" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16106 [09:37:49] New patchset: Santhosh; "Use grid based css design" [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15872 [09:39:00] New patchset: Henning Snater; "fixing site id auto-completion menu behaviour" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16112 [09:40:10] New review: Santhosh; "Cleaned up Pau's patchset - removed whitespace errors, synced the standalone html with PHP version." [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15872 [09:41:24] New review: Daniel Friesen; "An extension applying box-sizing: border-box; to *? That sounds like a really bad idea." [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15872 [10:01:07] New patchset: Henning Snater; "disabling editable value when saving" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16114 [10:14:01] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "[FileBackend] Cleanups for doxygen." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16116 [10:15:53] hello. is there a way to specify a max line length or paragraph width in mediawiki? [10:17:00] Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16116 [10:26:22] 03(mod) Language variant conversion for labels doesn't work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37461 (10jeblad) [10:42:08] 03(ASSIGNED) Can't install FlaggedRevs extension with SQLite - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37921 +comment (10Dereckson) [10:50:57] New patchset: Henning Snater; "JavaScript support for protected page" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16109 [10:52:17] Hiya helper [11:01:33] 03(mod) Using multiple file repos that overlap in their collection of files causes extra duplicate images entries - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38429 major->normal; +comment (10DaSch) [11:02:02] 03(mod) Deleting a page should not affect the old protection - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/12343 (10Kostas Stampoulis) [11:05:08] 03(mod) Double layering ForeignAPIRepo's doesn't retrieve descriptions properly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27111 +comment (10DaSch) [11:13:06] 03(mod) Deleting a page should not affect the old protection - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/12343 +comment (10Kostas Stampoulis) [11:42:55] 06(LATER) New parameter for file size and or image dimensions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/19811 +comment (10Subfader) [11:53:01] New review: Jarry1250; "The use case? Well, say I upload a new file Example.svg. But I don't have access to LocalSettings, s..." [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (translatesvg) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16076 [11:55:45] New patchset: Waldir; "Introduce default expiry time for special:block (bug 32178)" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/10469 [11:58:22] 03(mod) Run refreshImageMetadata.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30961 +comment (10Bawolff) [12:16:54] 03(mod) chunkUpload broken with swift backend - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38511 +comment (10Bawolff) [12:24:29] 03(NEW) Add SQLite support to RF - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38520 trivial; MediaWiki extensions: ReaderFeedback; (brandonskypimenta) [12:25:03] hello ! :-) is it a problem if {{DEFAULTSORT}} appears many time in article ?$ [12:35:48] New patchset: Umherirrender; "Remove ApiBase::needsToken" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16044 [12:41:18] New review: Umherirrender; "Why a Release Note? No behaviour change with this patch." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16044 [13:09:18] New patchset: Santhosh; "Cross-language language name search" [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16014 [13:13:21] New patchset: Demon; "Adding .gitreview" [mediawiki/extensions/ConfirmAccount] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16123 [13:13:58] New patchset: Demon; "Adding .gitreview" [mediawiki/extensions/Mpdf] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16124 [13:16:15] New review: Santhosh; "Note that this is a draft commit and not ready for review. Apparently git review --draft has no effe..." [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16014 [13:16:20] 03(mod) Add an OAI-PMH API for index page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38498 +comment (10Tpt) [13:18:37] hi all - I have had a lot of spam issues with my wiki. I've enabled email verification and re-captcha on user sign up, and I am at the moment getting about 20 random accounts set up each day that just sit there doing nothing. Is there a way to automatically purge all these random unactivated accounts regularly? It takes a lot of time to manage these! [13:19:51] gil: no, not really, but maybe you could install something like [[extension:ProtectSite]] to disable account creation when admins are not around or something...also, don't use reCAPTCHA, because 1) it depends on 3rd party servers and 2) it's been cracked ages ago, it's just as good as no CAPTCHA at all [13:20:15] ashley that explains how I still get 1 or 2 people every week getting through and managing to post spam on my wiki :) [13:20:28] gil: you might want to install (if you already haven't) [[extension:SpamBlacklist]], [[extension:SimpleAntiSpam]] and [[extension:TitleBlacklist]] (at least) [13:20:50] ashley thanks for that, I'll look into those. Would you be able to recommend an alternative to re-captcha? [13:21:34] I don't know exactly how spambots deal with reCAPTCHA, but I know that you need to type only _one_ word, the so-called verification word, to pass the CAPTCHA...for the other word, you can type whatever crap you want and you'll still pass the CAPTCHA if the verification word is correct [13:22:03] as for alternatives, either Asirra or FancyCaptcha (Asirra is the "select all cats" CAPTCHA and FancyCaptcha is the distorted word CAPTCHA used by Wikipedia and other Wikimedia Foundation sites) [13:23:54] Asirra is pretty great, for its concept is unique and cats are cute, but just like reCAPTCHA, it depends on external servers and some users have found it difficult to use...i.e. people _should_ select /only/ cats but they end up selecting /all/ pics and wonder why they fail the CAPTCHA...but unlike reCAPTCHA, it's very effective at repelling spammers -- recognizing cats apart from dogs isn't something that can be automated, thankfully :) [13:24:32] FancyCaptcha requires Python, but besides that, it's also quite effective (obviously, since Wikipedia uses it) [13:24:51] you might want to take a look at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ConfirmEdit and read more about FancyCaptcha and Asirra and see which one you prefer [13:29:26] ashley: Wikipedia captcha is no longer working really :( [13:30:03] saper: oh? :-/ [13:30:18] ashley: you know, even recaptcha got hacked [13:31:34] well reCAPTCHA never seemed _that_ good to me...and when it became known that it accepts _any_ crap for the other word...at least FancyCaptcha requires you to type the word _as-is_, no mistakes allowed [13:32:39] why would the other word be used for security [13:33:50] saper: Cite for reCAPTCHA getting hacked? [13:34:03] I think Google still claims it's not been defeated. [13:35:00] Brooke: http://www.dc949.org/projects/stiltwalker/ [13:35:35] Interesting. [13:35:43] ah [13:35:52] they say Google pushed new words they can't handle [13:36:08] Right. The big "non-functional" note at the top. ;-) [13:36:16] Thanks for the link. [13:36:21] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ReCAPTCHA#Security [13:36:33] ashley - just a quick question about Asirra :) [13:36:43] I just enabled Asirra and the text above it says: [13:36:51] To help protect against automated account creation, please solve the simple sum below and enter the answer in the box (more info): [13:36:56] why would it say that? [13:37:05] it's a minor (i18n) bug [13:37:19] will it ever get fixed? [13:37:49] if you file a bug report, I'm sure someone will fix it, it should be rather simple to fix (I could even fix it myself...if I knew how git and whatnot work, but alas, I don't) [13:38:15] it should say something like "Please click on all of the cat photos below" [13:38:26] ashley: ... you almost pushed a test commit, but then you gave up -.- [13:38:47] come on, it's one little commit [13:38:54] 03(mod) Replace MD5 password hashing with WHIRLPOOL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28419 +comment (10Tyler Romeo) [13:39:18] New patchset: Henning Snater; "improving interaction with blocked user" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16125 [13:39:44] 03(mod) chunkUpload broken with swift backend - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38511 +comment (10j^) [13:41:49] Lcawte: we've been through this a half million times by now; a workflow broken by design; people switching the VCS instead of fixing the (social) problems with the pre-existing VCS; the lack of any kind of a vote (compare to what the PHP Group did); and the list goes on [13:42:22] I need something that _works_ and something that enables me to write code instead of having to spend days struggling with how the VCS works [13:43:37] <^demon> The debate over "moving to git" happened over a very long time over the list. There has been consensus on that for quite some time. [13:43:57] <^demon> Whether or not one likes gerrit is debatable, and that's why we're having an evaluation period to see if there's a better choice. [13:45:41] yes, people have discussed about it for years and I'm aware of that; there was no vote or anything else equally easy to read and understand and that's what bugs me; it'd have been a lot easier to accept that way (not like I'll ever fully accept it, but...) [13:47:15] <^demon> *sigh* Is voting really necessary when there's consensus? [13:47:30] <^demon> I've yet to hear *anyone* other than you who suggests staying on SVN was the right choice. [13:47:50] <^demon> I've heard complaints about gerrit, and that's fair. But I've not heard a single voice saying that SVN was fine and we should just fix that. [13:48:07] New review: John Erling Blad; "Gerrit really didn't like the message files, its sluggish.. Try a reload, and then save piece by pie..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16040 [13:48:14] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "Tim: thanks for the feedback!" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14084 [13:48:36] New review: Parent5446; "For the lack of bad password tests, accidental hook deletion, and missing autoloader classes, that's..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16049 [13:49:05] New review: Demon; "There's quite a few improvements going on upstream to improve diffs...hopefully these will land soon..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16040 [13:51:38] ^demon: well, you just heard that voice :) I've never understood what's so fine and fancy about git -- it pretends not to be centralized when in reality there obviously has to be a central source from which releases are made, which apparently is "master". git's workflow is difficult to understand and the code review tool is entirely separate from MediaWiki.org...we could've achieved pretty much the same with SVN with locking trunk and telling peop [13:52:05] <^demon> (you cut off at peop...) [13:52:23] "which would've been pointless -- because people should write code that does not crash the sites even if it's committed to trunk" [13:52:35] <^demon> Yes, but people make mistakes. [13:52:39] <^demon> Everyone makes mistakes. [13:52:58] <^demon> And having someone to say "Hey, this looks good, no mistakes" is a Good Thing. [13:53:11] <^demon> Instead of breaking trunk/master, and then not fixing it for 2 weeks because they got busy. [13:54:40] ^demon: using git is fine, but I don't think that taking up the current workflow was an informed decision (if there was consensus as you say) [13:54:46] I still believe it's more of a social issue than a technical one; people should be reviewing code more often and helping each other out; it was totally doable with SVN & CodeReview...but yeah, mistakes do happen, shit sometimes hits the fan...in which case we oughta work together to fix whatever got broken instead of waiting [13:55:16] <^demon> Well obviously it *wasn't* working. Deploying code updates to the sites every ~6-9 months was not acceptable. [13:55:24] <^demon> And throwing more people at the problem didn't seem to help. [13:59:03] I agree that code updates should be more frequent than once or twice a year; just what was the exact problem? someone submitting crap to trunk and not addressing comments & complaints quickly enough? I mean, obviously the committer should have some responsibility but way too often in open source development the burden's on one person...if fellow devs can spot problems, surely they can help debug 'em and maybe even fix 'em without the original comm [14:00:30] New patchset: Mwjames; "Add fieldset class in Special:Ask (this change is a minor incision)" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16127 [14:00:52] hi ^demon - https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/New_repositories/Requests - are those getting processed this week as well? [14:01:03] <^demon> Yes, I did some of them this morning. [14:01:08] <^demon> I'm dealing with an upstream issue. [14:01:16] 03(mod) Enable the New Pages Feed feature on en.WS - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38512 +comment (10Krenair) [14:02:36] Aha! ok, thanks ^demon - wasn't sure because I didn't see a date on that page the way there is on the extension-moving page [14:02:54] ashley: what needs to be changed with that captcha message ^^ ? [14:03:55] saper: when using Asirra CAPTCHA, it should say something like "Please click on '''all''' of the cat images below [to continue]" or something like that instead of asking the user to solve a math problem :) [14:05:23] hi blackjack48! [14:05:42] hi Sumana, how have you been? [14:05:58] Not bad, although too busy with conferences and the like. You? [14:06:17] Also, today I tried out https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:NewPagesFeed and it was a nice experience [14:06:28] props to the editor engagement & editor engagement experiments teams [14:06:41] Quite busy, but trying to get back in the swing of things :) [14:07:06] 03(mod) Special/Contributions does not show (20 | 50 | 100 | 250 | 500) when max is set to a number higher than total contributions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38518 +comment (10Krenair) [14:07:14] blackjack48: so, I'm wondering what you planned on doing ON TOP OF the 40 hours/week of your GSoC :-) [14:07:52] more seriously, if you're trying to do more than GSoC during GSoC, that's an antipattern [14:07:58] in case you've heard that phrase [14:10:11] New review: John Erling Blad; "@Damon, nice!" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16040 [14:10:15] I had a relative who was ill which required me to travel. Sumana, I sincerely apologize for not keeping Wikimedia more informed. I have no future obligations going into August. [14:10:35] blackjack48: oh dear! Hope your relative is doing better? [14:10:52] blackjack48: thanks for the apology [14:10:54] Yes - he is. [14:11:04] that's good to hear [14:11:11] I really want to see my project succeed [14:11:21] and I think it is on the right track. [14:11:24] cool! do you have any beta testers lined up yet? [14:11:38] you might want to ask for some, on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump [14:11:54] or on the wikimedia-l mailing list https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l [14:12:09] Yes I was in contact with some a month ago, but I wasn't sure if my project was ready at that point. [14:13:04] blackjack48: got it - so maybe soon you can reach out to those people again..... [14:13:18] blackjack48: have you been running into any obstacles at all? code review? anything else? [14:14:48] ashley: 'asirra-edit' => 'To help protect against automated edit spam, please select just the cat photos in the box below:', [14:14:48] Code review has been an obstacle to some extent. I had tried pushing my changes to the sandbox as Alex suggested, but they did not show up in review. [14:15:29] I've emailed Alex to ask for help, but for now my changes are uploaded as a core modification. [14:15:42] ashley: (from https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?p=mediawiki/extensions/ConfirmEdit.git;a=blob;f=Asirra.i18n.php;h=343b178e6acf02fc70ba5c376896da1b1137c8d8;hb=HEAD#l15) [14:16:36] saper: yay =) [14:17:02] New review: Jens Ohlig; "Easy with the trigger on your gun, cowboy. Have a look at the README!" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16070 [14:17:04] Change merged: Jens Ohlig; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16070 [14:17:30] New patchset: Jens Ohlig; "Revert "Split off diff code into its own extension so it can also be used by EP and other extensions that have use for it"" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16129 [14:17:43] 03(ASSIGNED) Make it possible to pass description language in the UploadWizard - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37293 (10Amir E. Aharoni) [14:17:49] blackjack48: if Alex doesn't respond to your questions in 2 business days, please do send email to wikitech-l and we'll be glad to help [14:18:07] New review: Jens Ohlig; "Easy with the trigger on your gun, cowboy. Look at the README!" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: -1 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16129 [14:18:14] ashley: committed in Dec 2011, are we talking about ConfirmEdit's version of Asirra? [14:19:29] saper: you would have to ask the user about that, but I hope that we are :) I know that old(er) versions of Asirra used to display the "please solve the sum below" message instead of asking to click on cat photos [14:19:44] New review: John Erling Blad; "piece by piece.. ;)" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16040 [14:19:54] sumanah: last night, he asked me to resubmit my changes to include modifications of all 4 patches in one changeset, and I've asked for instructions to do that as well. [14:20:03] http://files.bachsau.com/MediaWiki_Asirra.tar.gz <-- says " please select just the cat photos " [14:20:15] <^demon> saper: I spent part of yesterday getting lucene-core bundled in gerrit :p [14:20:30] blackjack48: for stuff like that, it's totally fine to ask in IRC and/or wikitech-l -- don't let yourself get slowed down by waiting for your mentor [14:20:34] no need to be bottlenecked [14:20:50] 03(mod) Language name in help messages on Special:CreateItem shown as "null" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38248 normal->minor (10snaevar) [14:20:53] (if indeed it is a bottleneck) [14:21:04] btw, are you up pretty early? it's 7:20am on the west coast.... [14:21:12] ^demon: ouch [14:21:23] <^demon> Well, it's needed for improved searching. [14:21:25] <^demon> +freeform tagging [14:21:27] ^demon: became guice expert? [14:21:36] (I'm currently on the east coast and it's comfortably midmorning) [14:21:38] <^demon> Not yet, still trying to wrap my head around it. [14:21:55] it's fun [14:21:58] <^demon> I also played with writing a plugin yesterday. Wasn't hard at all. [14:22:26] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Fixed README and REL-NOTES after updating the wrong files in previous commit" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16130 [14:22:30] today is an anomaly - I have to get up early as PG&E is replacing our gas lines. We've been taking showers, making coffee, etc. [14:22:53] Speaking of... [14:23:00] I need to get going now [14:23:03] :) [14:23:13] I'll be back this afternoon [14:23:17] ^demon: writing a plugin is probably not hard, hooking it in is probably hard [14:23:36] <^demon> Na, not too hard. Docs are pretty decent. [14:23:46] <^demon> And someone improved the docs a lot more yesterday [14:23:51] need to update my master then [14:24:09] see you blackjack48 [14:24:31] looking forward to the new watchlist interface! [14:24:32] I was hoping to have a nice guice introspector one day, but I can't find any way to query guice "give me all your bindings please" [14:25:10] <^demon> saper: http://code.google.com/p/gerrit/source/browse/Documentation/dev-plugins.txt [14:26:13] Fetching googlesource [14:27:01] <^demon> Also, I want https://gerrit-review.googlesource.com/#/c/36492/ merged :p [14:27:44] New review: John Erling Blad; "piece .. by .. piece .." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16040 [14:28:12] New review: Jens Ohlig; "Ok." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16130 [14:28:14] Change merged: Jens Ohlig; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16130 [14:28:41] ok, all of the queue at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developer_access is done! [14:28:49] (I do hit it every day) [14:29:58] "Each plugin is loaded into its own ClassLoader" ouch I hope they improved classloading of gerrit itself by no [14:30:01] now [14:30:19] <^demon> I believe so. [14:31:21] Change abandoned: Jens Ohlig; "Goodbye, patch set that was created because I was too trigger-happy myself :(" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16129 [14:32:39] ^demon: "Code is already fixed, but I have to wait Lundh, Gustaf to come back from his vacation on next Monday, only he has the right to push the code in our company." [14:32:56] <^demon> link? [14:32:57] *priceless* - gerrit is good at this :) [14:33:02] your code review [14:33:12] er, code review of your code [14:35:29] New review: John Erling Blad; "pi.... by ..p.." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16040 [14:36:13] New review: Jens Ohlig; "Fine." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16125 [14:41:03] 03(NEW) API: wbgetitems returns unrequested informations (always all props and token) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38521 minor; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; (bugreporter) [14:41:49] 03(mod) Enable HSTS on Wikimedia wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38516 normal->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [14:43:22] hi [14:44:02] how can I retrieve informations on a user by its userid ? (using the API) [14:47:10] Change merged: Jens Ohlig; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16125 [14:47:11] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16109 [14:50:30] rguillebert_: Can I ask why userid is the only thing you have available? [14:51:48] I also have the username [14:51:55] but it has changed :s [14:52:32] 03(mod) Enable the New Pages Feed feature on en.WS - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38512 normal->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [14:52:32] 03(mod) Add SQLite support to RF - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38520 trivial->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [14:53:43] rguillebert_: It's my understanding that user ID is mostly an internal thing [14:53:59] rguillebert_: Have you tried using the username to no avail, then? [14:55:01] marktraceur: can't people change their username ? [14:55:33] rguillebert_: I haven't witnessed that. I suppose it might be possible, but the effect of that depends on what you're trying to do. Could you explain? [14:55:41] !renameuser [14:55:41] Renameuser provides a special page which allows authorised users to rename user accounts. See < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Renameuser > for more details. [14:55:45] It's an extension... [14:56:09] Thankee Reedy [14:56:30] I have a list of users with their userid [14:56:44] and I would like to find them right now [14:57:22] and by taking 2 different snapshots, I've seen that some name have changed [14:58:55] 03(NEW) Javascript not working in Arabic Wiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38522 normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (zack_wadghiri) [14:59:42] rguillebert_: If you have the userids, do you have access to the database? [15:00:06] no it's the api on wikipedia [15:00:19] Hm [15:01:36] There's a user rename log [15:02:32] is it publicly available ? [15:03:08] https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=renameuser [15:04:27] it's not the easiest thing to parse but it'll do thanks :) [15:06:01] This does sound like a potentially useful API feature, though [15:08:33] New review: Amire80; "I get a JavaScript error after I select a file:" [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/10130 [15:19:27] ! [remote rejected] HEAD -> refs/publish/master/bug/38501 (change 16043 closed) [15:19:33] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/16043 [15:19:37] Can someone explain this? [15:20:26] <^demon> It's merged, you can't push new patchsets to it [15:21:10] oh, damn [15:24:05] New review: John Erling Blad; "I would simply use single quotes whenever I use a $ sign in the text to avoid accidential troubles, ..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16040 [15:26:02] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Made Diff non-abstract again" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16134 [15:30:22] New patchset: Kghbln; "Improved coding as per suggestion by Nikerabbit" [mediawiki/extensions/BreadCrumbs] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16136 [15:33:32] New patchset: Alex Monk; "Escape some messages, use $this->msg" [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16137 [15:37:13] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "fixed obvious missing code in sitelinks test" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16138 [15:37:45] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16138 [15:44:56] sometimes the things people do with local .js pages makes me really sad [15:58:03] 03(FIXED) Javascript not working in Arabic Wiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38522 +comment (10Jack Phoenix) [15:58:09] \o/ [15:59:28] New patchset: Mwjames; "(bug 38504) Adds new result printer flot time series" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16047 [16:01:18] 03(NEW) Articles by autopatrolled and admin users appearing unreviewed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38523 normal; MediaWiki extensions: PageTriage; (okeyes) [16:02:29] ashley: sometimes? I get a bit tired of going to random wikis, and having my browser complain that it's including non https content, and I feel obliged to go and fix it... [16:03:32] I don't use https, so I don't get such issues ;-) but it _is_ a wiki, so [[w:WP:BOLD|be '''BOLD''']] and fix any and all issues you stumble upon [16:03:42] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions/ConfirmAccount] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16123 [16:03:53] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions/Mpdf] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16124 [16:03:56] because I'm sure that not all wikis have CSS and/or JS-savvy local admins [16:05:11] New patchset: Reedy; "Add .gitignore" [mediawiki/extensions/ConfirmAccount] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16140 [16:05:18] ashley: If I didn't have staff rights, I wouldn't be able to ;) [16:05:22] New patchset: Reedy; "Add .gitignore" [mediawiki/extensions/Mpdf] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16141 [16:06:06] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions/ConfirmAccount] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16140 [16:06:25] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions/Mpdf] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16141 [16:06:32] Reedy: that's the point! it's a wiki, mortals can edit most pages, *you* can edit all of them :D [16:07:14] <^demon> "The wiki that anyone can edit, but especially me" [16:07:20] :D [16:07:57] <^demon> Nobody can edit my wikis, bwahaha. [16:08:38] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "Autocomments and summaries for changes through the api." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15675 [16:12:34] 03(mod) Enable e-mailing password based on e-mail address on Wikimedia wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34386 +comment (10Umherirrender) [16:17:01] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "Autocomments and summaries for changes through the api." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15675 [16:17:26] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16127 [16:17:36] 03(mod) User preference for enforcing HTTPS - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29898 summary; +comment (10Krinkle) [16:18:07] 14(DUP) Native "force https" option - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36456 +comment (10Krinkle) [16:18:09] 03(mod) User preference for enforcing HTTPS - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29898 +comment (10Krinkle) [16:18:11] 03(mod) Secure Server (Tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27946 (10Krinkle) [16:18:36] 03(mod) User preference for enforcing HTTPS - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29898 (10Krinkle) [16:18:40] 03(mod) Provide HTTPS links in CodeReview emails - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29008 (10Krinkle) [16:19:04] can anyone review https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/12865 - comment-only changes [16:21:15] <^demon> I'm so on that. [16:21:19] <^demon> Like icing on cake. [16:21:27] <^demon> Like Paula Dean on butter. [16:22:05] Change merged: Demon; [mediawiki/extensions/ApiSandbox] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12865 [16:22:31] New review: MarkTraceur; "This has been merged, but I'd like to get some feedback on these comments anyway." [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16043 [16:22:39] 03(mod) Secure Server (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27946 summary (10Danny B.) [16:23:03] ^demon, thanks [16:23:40] <^demon> MaxSem: anytime :) [16:25:49] 03(NEW) puppet has undefined function get_var - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38524 normal; Wikimedia Labs: General; (hashar) [16:26:11] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Use embed for small images in css" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16142 [16:26:32] How does one get the following to display properly? [16:26:32] 14(WFM) Notification emails should link to https, not http - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32769 +comment (10Krinkle) [16:26:33] # Intro: Line [16:26:34] Another line [16:26:36] # Next bullet point" [16:26:46] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16142 [16:27:04] jarry1250, only with raw HTML, I'm afraid [16:27:20] Aw, shucks. No worries. [16:28:17] 03(NEW) Pager on Special:Categories is broken when this special page is accessed with a parameter - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38525 normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (liangent) [16:29:16] 03(mod) Resolution of protocol-independent wgServer for email messages should not be dependent on the performer's url protocol - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29878 summary; +comment (10Krinkle) [16:29:31] New patchset: MarkTraceur; "(bug 37293) Add in a descriptionlang parameter, and respect it" [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/10130 [16:29:37] 14(DUP) Emails will sometimes contain secure server links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/26294 +comment (10Krinkle) [16:29:40] 03(mod) Resolution of protocol-independent wgServer for email messages should not be dependent on the performer's url protocol - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29878 +comment (10Krinkle) [16:29:41] 03(mod) Secure Server (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27946 (10Krinkle) [16:29:59] New review: MarkTraceur; "Sorry about that, I temporarily couldn't JavaScript." [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/10130 [16:30:09] 03(mod) puppet has undefined function get_var - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38524 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [16:30:18] 03(mod) Resolution of protocol-independent wgServer for email messages should not be dependent on the performer's url protocol - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29878 (10Krinkle) [16:30:19] 03(mod) Provide HTTPS links in CodeReview emails - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29008 (10Krinkle) [16:30:23] 03(mod) User preference for enforcing HTTPS - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29898 (10Krinkle) [16:31:19] New patchset: MarkTraceur; "(bug 37293) Add in a descriptionlang parameter, and respect it" [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/10130 [16:32:11] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "fix for 905f670fea38b2ed6896be1f28665b92cb1ed694" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16143 [16:32:32] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16143 [16:33:23] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "So are you going to add the JavaScript?" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16127 [16:33:56] New review: MarkTraceur; "Good stuff! Thanks for the help, Krenair." [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16137 [16:34:27] 14(WFM) Provide article links to secure counterparts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29410 +comment (10Krinkle) [16:37:32] 03(mod) Resolution of protocol-independent wgServer for email messages should not be dependent on the performer's url protocol - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29878 normal->minor; +easy (10Krinkle) [16:40:44] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "rename fix" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16145 [16:41:05] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16145 [16:44:45] New review: Mwjames; "The question is if we want collapsible to be a standard behaviour which in that case I can add the J..." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16127 [16:54:36] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "Either ask works fine without any additional config or it has the collapsible feature out of the box..." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16127 [16:56:42] hmm, isn't $( 'foo' ).on( 'event', function() { ... } ) supposed to be an equivalent to $( 'foo' ).live( 'event', function() { ... } ) ? ti doesn't work for me [16:59:43] MaxSem: It's deprecated and shouldn't be used anymore [16:59:48] it's not an alias [17:00:43] well, a simple s/on/live/ suddenly makes my code work ;) a bug in jQuery? [17:01:35] MaxSem: maybe... [17:02:13] Sometimes jQuery acts wierd... do you have a sample? [17:04:05] Hi marktraceur. Patch 10130 seems to be working now. [17:05:01] That is, if the lang code in the parameter is one of the hard-coded languages. Is patch 9528 supposed to solve that? [17:05:20] vvv: ping [17:06:03] !g 9528 [17:06:03] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#q,9528,n,z [17:06:26] aharoni: Yes, that's the patch all right [17:06:33] Your review is appreciated :) [17:07:05] hoo, ext.apiSandbox.js: $( '#param-generator' ).on( 'change', updateGenerator ); [17:08:13] MaxSem: And if you use .live instead it breaks? [17:08:42] New patchset: AABoyles; "Changed registration in Special:Version from ParserHook to Other" [mediawiki/extensions/BreadCrumbs] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16146 [17:09:15] hoo, vice versa [17:09:41] Change merged: AABoyles; [mediawiki/extensions/BreadCrumbs] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16146 [17:12:05] Krinkle Krinkle wiki star, how i wonder... ah! here you are! [17:12:16] Hey Danny :) [17:13:24] 06(LATER) Use MHTML URLs as an alternative to data URLs in IE < 8 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28658 +comment (10Krinkle) [17:14:34] 03(mod) Use MHTML URLs as an alternative to data URLs in IE < 8 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28658 +comment (10Krinkle) [17:16:37] New patchset: Mwjames; "Adds the JS for collapsible fieldset, credits goes to Yaron where the code was spotted first" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16147 [17:18:08] New patchset: Mwjames; "Adds the JS for collapsible fieldset, credits goes to Yaron where the code was spotted first" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16147 [17:20:38] New review: Mwjames; "This should solve the problem" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16127 [17:21:05] awight: how's it going? [17:21:40] sumanah: great, I got the hackathon check yesterday! [17:21:57] Thanks again; I think someone ++ it a bit [17:22:04] ++ ? [17:22:08] approved? incremented? [17:22:09] incremented [17:22:14] duh [17:22:21] sorry, post-lunch brain error [17:22:24] yep, it makes a difference [17:22:34] ;) +2 merged check to trunk [17:22:58] MaxSem: Mhm... the way .live and .on assigns the function is different, I guess that's the cause, but I'm not into that enough to tell the exact difference... but Krinkle can, I guess [17:23:21] awight: I don't think the banking system is decentralized enough to compare it to git.... :P [17:23:29] hoo: .on is a new method designed to replace .bind .live and .delegate [17:23:52] by design .on can do everything .live can, since .live is now just a 1-line function calling .on [17:23:54] awight: ha! [17:23:54] Krinkle: Yes, the problem was, that .live('change', ...) worked, but .on ddin't [17:24:03] see api.jquery.com/on [17:24:20] .live(.., ..) is short for $(document).on(.., ..) [17:24:26] hoo: Any reason for not using $.change? [17:24:36] however in most cases .live is bad and too slow. You should't be binding to document [17:24:38] (not to complicate things further, but that's what I've used in the past) [17:25:08] so replacing .live() with .on() blindly will not work and is not intended to work. They have different argument signatures. [17:25:09] marktraceur: haha, normally all I see are commit messages. they come in red envelopes if you're lucky ;) [17:26:01] MaxSem: function (types, data, fn) { jQuery(this.context).on(types, this.selector, data, fn); return this;} [17:26:07] that's the current .live [17:27:15] Just look at api.jquery.com/on and figure out from there what you need, instead of trying to mimick what .live did [17:28:05] New patchset: MaxSem; "$.on() doesn't work here, reverting to $.live()" [mediawiki/extensions/ApiSandbox] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16148 [17:28:18] hoo, Krinkle, ^^ [17:31:26] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaMessages] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14875 [17:32:07] Change merged: Krinkle; [mediawiki/extensions/ApiSandbox] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16148 [17:32:11] MaxSem: I've merged it, please do read the comment :) [17:32:33] oooh, ApiSandbox improvements :-) [17:33:23] hoo: No really, why aren't you using $( document ).change( function () { ? [17:33:42] marktraceur: It's not my code :P [17:33:49] Krinkle, I know [17:33:56] Ah, K [17:33:59] New patchset: Parent5446; "(bug 28419) Added pluggable password system with PBKDF2." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16049 [17:34:02] BUT IT'S EASIER THAT WAY:P [17:35:25] marktraceur: note that whether .live() or $(document).change or $(document).on('change', 'selector') - it all does the same, and is all just as bad. Either leave it as is, or improve it. Changing one for the other doesn't help anything. .live() works fine. [17:36:11] the swap for .on() was by accident and an honest mistake. This is because .live() is a very strange method, because it doesn't do what one might think [17:36:44] contrary to virtually any other jQuery method, .live() does *not* use the jQuery object you have so far. so $('#foo').live( .. ) does *not* bind an event handler to the #foo element. [17:36:48] Krinkle: The problem is, I guess that #param-generator is added after the JS [17:36:53] maybe by another function [17:37:08] that's why it's not set as $param-gen in that function early [17:37:09] probably [17:37:20] that's why jQuery deprecated .live() and incorporated the functionality into .on() because when used with .on() it is very obvious what it does. and works the same (no regressions) [17:37:21] reminder: Gerrit upgrade window in about 25 min, lasting 1 hour. Right ^demon? [17:37:43] <^demon> Something like that. I'm just sticking around in case Ryan and Asher break stuff ;-) [17:37:48] <^demon> Lemme double check. [17:38:05] * werdna waves ^demon [17:38:11] * ^demon is waved [17:39:19] MaxSem: At which point is that #param-generator created? In another point of the same function? If so, bind it there [17:40:01] it's regenerated periodically, and the creating function returns just a HTML string. hence live() [17:40:20] <^demon> sumanah: Granted, neither of them seem to be on IRC, so it might be good for me to find them. [17:40:59] 03(mod) Review and deploy OnlineStatusBar extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32128 normal->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [17:41:10] ok, then you really need what .live does, although it's slow, as it's triggered on all onChange actions [17:45:38] 03(mod) OnlineStatusBar indicator should not use absolute positioning. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37132 +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [17:46:38] ori-l: hey, I think I don't see an update from you on https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36225 -- is it dormant? [17:46:45] New patchset: Umherirrender; "(bug 27610) Add archivename to list=filearchive" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16149 [17:48:09] 03(ASSIGNED) Add archivename for non-latest image version to list=filearchive - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27610 +comment (10Umherirrender) [17:48:23] 03(mod) Categories are not saved when doing upload of files into wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24439 +patch +patch-need-review (10Sumana Harihareswara) [17:50:11] 03(mod) Implement mw.Api convenience method for loading interface messages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38280 +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [17:50:42] hi RoanKattouw [17:50:48] <^demon> It's a Roan. [17:52:03] What up? [17:54:30] hi there ashish_d - how goes your summer project? [17:56:42] sumanah, Hello, been a little slow this week partly because been moving back to college after break [17:56:53] oh! [17:58:20] ashish_d: hope the move's gone ok [17:58:24] moving is tedious [17:58:27] (in my opinion) [17:58:28] New patchset: MarkTraceur; "Add in a share link field" [mediawiki/extensions/EtherEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16151 [17:59:14] 03(NEW) Add page creation timestamp and author to MediaWiki's info action - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38526 normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (b) [17:59:22] 03(mod) Add page creation timestamp and author to MediaWiki's info action - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38526 +easy (10MZMcBride) [17:59:23] 03(mod) Reimplement MediaWiki's info action (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38450 (10MZMcBride) [17:59:31] New review: Subramanya Sastry; "Review in progress. Couple comments for now." [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15980 [17:59:32] its been good, full of stuff that goes around starting a new session at college, but all good [18:02:06] Hey Krinkle, you'll see I had a stab at implementing your recommendations re JS hooks [18:02:26] 03(NEW) Add latest editor and timestamp to MediaWiki's info action - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38527 normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (b) [18:02:34] Can I disable the resourceloader or modify it somehow? I think it's the problem but on my skin it's adding JS to $this->bodycontent and loading an old version of jquery and some JS function calls that don't exist which breaks my own JS stuff. [18:02:37] 03(mod) Short IDs for sections - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36348 +patch-reviewed; summary; +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [18:02:46] 03(mod) Add latest editor and timestamp to MediaWiki's info action - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38527 +easy (10MZMcBride) [18:02:47] 03(mod) Reimplement MediaWiki's info action (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38450 (10MZMcBride) [18:03:17] tekmosis: Support for the legacy loading system (in other words, there not being a loading system) has been dropped in 1.17, you'll have to upgrade if you want to use 1.17 or later. [18:03:31] There's lots of documentation being written on this important subject, and we're here to help. [18:03:39] oops should have mentioned, I'm on 1.19.1 [18:03:55] Brooke, why don't you just add the easy keyword and depends on bug number when creating the bug? Instead of editing it in afterwards [18:03:58] Overal it is a very easy to use system. problems usually happen when users try too much, its a powerful system with a simple interface [18:04:08] jarry1250: cool, I'll check it out later. [18:04:18] Am I in the Reviewer list on gerrit for that change? that way I'll see it on my dashboar [18:04:21] 03(mod) Incorrect edit summary preloading when editing section 0 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32617 +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [18:04:21] d [18:04:21] Krenair: Non habet "keywords" or "depends" fields in the bug-create form [18:04:39] Krinkle: Hmm, I'll take a look [18:04:44] marktraceur, "Non habet"? [18:04:49] I upgraded from 1.16.0 to 1.19.1 and now all this extra JS is being added to the skin $this->bodytext I just want to get rid of it since I'm not using it [18:04:52] Latin for "does not have" [18:04:56] Yes it does [18:05:02] Not for me.... [18:05:07] You probably didn't click Show Advanced Fields [18:05:12] 03(NEW) Move "templates used on this page" from MediaWiki's edit action to the info action - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38528 normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (b) [18:05:45] 03(mod) Move "templates used on this page" from MediaWiki's edit action to the info action - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38528 +easy (10MZMcBride) [18:05:46] 03(mod) Reimplement MediaWiki's info action (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38450 (10MZMcBride) [18:06:01] Hmm, is Gerrit downforeveryoneorjustme? [18:06:20] Well, then probably the explanation is "that's not a very obvious button" [18:06:33] jarry1250, planned downtime [18:06:35] 03(NEW) Move "hidden categories" list from MediaWiki's edit action to the info action - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38529 normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (b) [18:06:42] hi jarry1250 [18:06:44] 03(mod) Move "hidden categories" list from MediaWiki's edit action to the info action - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38529 +easy (10MZMcBride) [18:06:44] 03(mod) Reimplement MediaWiki's info action (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38450 (10MZMcBride) [18:06:54] Krenair: Coolio, when's the expected finish time on that? [18:06:57] Nikerabbit: Hey [18:07:07] jarry1250, see http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2012-July/061810.html [18:07:40] Krenair: Great, thanks. [18:07:46] So it should be back in an hour tops [18:07:59] I have such a flaky internet connection here it's hard to tell sometimes :P [18:08:23] <^demon> We're moving database servers for gerrit, so overall performance of gerrit should be much better when we're done. [18:09:09] 03(NEW) Add magic word usage to MediaWiki's info action - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38530 normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (b) [18:09:14] * marktraceur thought, "everyone really should know about the gerrit downtime" then, five seconds later, tried to load Gerrit [18:09:15] jarry1250: you solved somthing? [18:09:30] <^demon> marktraceur: There were e-mails :) [18:09:37] I know, I was also aware [18:09:40] 03(mod) Add magic word usage to MediaWiki's info action - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38530 +easy (10MZMcBride) [18:09:41] 03(mod) Reimplement MediaWiki's info action (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38450 (10MZMcBride) [18:09:43] Just....brain failure [18:10:11] <^demon> We could customize the apache 503 error on that server so it says something nicer. [18:10:14] <^demon> Maybe another day. [18:11:24] ^demon: Agreed, something that links to the announcement, possibly with the suggestion to join the wikitech-l list and say "hi" while waiting :) [18:11:58] 03(NEW) Add (search) index status to MediaWiki's info action - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38531 normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (b) [18:12:23] 03(mod) Add (search) index status to MediaWiki's info action - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38531 +easy (10MZMcBride) [18:12:25] 03(mod) Reimplement MediaWiki's info action (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38450 (10MZMcBride) [18:12:26] <^demon> Maybe we can get Brandon to come up with a crying unicorn. [18:12:33] <^demon> For labs/gerrit/etc's fail whale. [18:12:38] Yeeeeees [18:13:07] :o [18:13:17] brandon is probably late in because of late night batman [18:13:42] Good plan! [18:13:48] <^demon> http://bbsimg.ngfiles.com/1/21176000/ngbbs4bf20812bc481.jpg [18:18:09] 03(NEW) Add default category sort value to MediaWiki's info action - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38532 normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (b) [18:18:22] 03(mod) Add default category sort value to MediaWiki's info action - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38532 +easy (10MZMcBride) [18:18:22] 03(mod) Reimplement MediaWiki's info action (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38450 (10MZMcBride) [18:18:40] * marktrac1ur weighs the cool new IRC interface in Thunderbird against the convenience of constant availability via SSH [18:19:06] SSH, you'll always win, I'm sorry Thunderbird. [18:20:58] 03(NEW) Add display title value to MediaWiki's info action - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38533 normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (b) [18:21:05] 03(mod) Add display title value to MediaWiki's info action - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38533 +easy (10MZMcBride) [18:21:06] 03(mod) Reimplement MediaWiki's info action (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38450 (10MZMcBride) [18:22:23] Brooke: it could almost just dump page_props for that page... [18:23:21] 03(FIXED) Loading of a change for review in Gerrit is often very slow - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35612 +comment (10Chad H.) [18:23:25] 03(NEW) Add LiquidThreads status to MediaWiki's info action - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38534 normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (b) [18:23:52] 03(mod) Add LiquidThreads status to MediaWiki's info action - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38534 +easy (10MZMcBride) [18:23:52] 03(mod) Reimplement MediaWiki's info action (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38450 (10MZMcBride) [18:24:34] 03(mod) Javascript not working in Arabic Wiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38522 +comment (10Zack) [18:28:22] Reedy: This very easy revision is just screaming "Review me!": https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/15958/ [18:28:33] New review: Nikerabbit; "Actually I've been wishing to get away of Special:Translate/editpage and providing that functionalit..." [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (translatesvg); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16081 [18:28:36] 03(NEW) sharing an article after moving to a different language uses the first language's code in the URL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38535 major; Wikipedia App: Share; (amir.aharoni) [18:30:36] 03(mod) IP Zone issue - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35738 +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [18:30:53] New review: MarkTraceur; "I'm looking for verification that this works as expected, and that my code looks OK. I've been sort ..." [mediawiki/extensions/EtherEditor] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16151 [18:31:49] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15958 [18:32:08] \o/ thx Reedy [18:33:27] jarry1250, fyi Gerrit is back online [18:33:46] Krenair: Ta muchly. Everything go okay? [18:34:03] (to your knowledge? [18:34:04] I wasn't involved, I just read emails :P [18:34:05] ) [18:34:14] <^demon> Yep, everything's back up fine. And much faster. [18:34:27] Krenair: Yup, realised that half a second too late :P ^demon: Hooray :) [18:34:49] It's really way faster :) [18:35:57] 03(NEW) Add page protection status to MediaWiki's info action - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38536 normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (b) [18:36:14] New review: Amire80; "Seems mostly OK now, but see inline comments." [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/10130 [18:36:49] 03(mod) Add page protection status to MediaWiki's info action - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38536 +easy (10MZMcBride) [18:36:49] 03(mod) Reimplement MediaWiki's info action (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38450 (10MZMcBride) [18:37:18] marktraceur: Sorry, a couple of more comments on that patch. [18:38:02] New review: Jdlrobson; "One suggestion - rather than introduce both a sort property and sort direction query string paramete..." [mediawiki/extensions/ProofreadPage] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/6808 [18:38:59] 04(REOPENED) Give proper error message when viewing &action=protect without sufficient rights - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/18677 +comment (10MZMcBride) [18:39:34] aharoni: can you spare some time for me? [18:39:36] aharoni: That's fine, I'd like it to be perfect as well :) [18:40:00] I'm having issues with getting djvu files to render in my mediawiki instance [18:40:02] marktraceur: Also, I'm a bit confused about the value of code in getMenu(). Is it supposed to be undefined or null? [18:40:12] Hm. Let me find out [18:40:12] in addition to that my Proofread page extension seems very broken [18:40:32] 03(mod) Non-admins can no longer to see page protection settings. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/18728 +comment (10MZMcBride) [18:40:36] jdlrobson: I'm quite a newbie with ProofreadPage, too, but I can try... [18:40:41] jdlrobson: thanks for working on this [18:40:47] Tpt: ^ [18:40:57] * jdlrobson waves at Tpt  [18:41:11] aharoni: Hi ! [18:41:13] Tpt: hi! welcome to +2 status :) [18:41:16] Tpt: I turned commons off but still having lots of issues :( [18:42:19] tpt, jdlrobson: I think that I saw previews of DjVu pages at some point, but now I don't see them either. [18:44:12] Have you increase $wgMaxShellMemory [18:45:22] When the pages are very heavy djvu libre takes more memory than default $wgMaxShellMemory value allow. [18:45:39] * jdlrobson looks [18:45:49] it's currently $wgMaxShellMemory = 30*1024*1024; [18:45:51] 03(NEW) Add "external links" section to MediaWiki's info action - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38537 normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (b) [18:45:57] guessing that's enough.. [18:46:16] 03(mod) ExtensionDistributor: Implement support for having both Git extensions and SVN extensions (both with appropiate branch list and trunk/master) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36802 (10Krinkle) [18:46:18] 03(mod) Add "external links" section to MediaWiki's info action - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38537 +easy (10MZMcBride) [18:46:19] 03(mod) Reimplement MediaWiki's info action (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38450 (10MZMcBride) [18:46:19] 03(mod) [Regression] ExtensionDistributor: SVN-only extensions no longer downloadable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38188 (10Krinkle) [18:46:44] 03(mod) ExtensionDistributor: Implement support for having both Git extensions and SVN extensions (both with appropiate branch list and trunk/master) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36802 (10Krinkle) [18:46:46] 03(mod) [Regression] ExtensionDistributor: SVN-only extensions no longer downloadable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38188 (10Krinkle) [18:47:22] New patchset: IAlex; "Use WebRequest instead of $_SERVER in EditPage." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16152 [18:47:35] 03(mod) Translatable pages and FlaggedRevs don't play nice together - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33385 +comment (10Niklas Laxström) [18:48:22] I'm getting no errors which is odd [18:48:47] !debug [18:48:48] For information on debugging (including viewing errors), see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:How_to_debug . A list of related configuration variables is at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Configuration_settings#Debug.2Flogging [18:48:48] ;) [18:49:10] 03(mod) IP Zone issue - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35738 +patch-need-review (10Sumana Harihareswara) [18:49:17] New patchset: Krinkle; "Fix PHP error caused by ForeignAPIGadgetRepo::reformatAPIResult" [mediawiki/extensions/Gadgets] (RL2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16153 [18:49:19] Sorry, I have to go to dinner. I'll be back in half an hour. [18:49:34] Roan ^ (Gadget:RL2) [18:49:59] Thanks [18:50:09] Change merged: Catrope; [mediawiki/extensions/Gadgets] (RL2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16153 [18:50:15] New patchset: Amire80; "Changed stashed upload success message to be clearer" [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16154 [18:50:15] New review: Nikerabbit; "I don't understand. I don't see any errors in https://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/MediaWiki-GIT..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9610 [18:50:35] Change merged: Catrope; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16152 [18:53:24] New patchset: Krinkle; "migradeGadgets: Use a more descriptive update key" [mediawiki/extensions/Gadgets] (RL2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16156 [18:53:37] 03(mod) ProxyTools "wfGetIP()" cannot handle CSV values of $_SERVER['REMOTE_ADDR'] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/26585 +patch-reviewed; +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [18:53:46] Krinkle: Typo in commit summary, s/migrade/migrate/ [18:55:19] thx, fixing [18:55:46] hoo: wassup? [18:56:16] hi vvv [18:56:21] how's your summer going? [18:56:29] Nice [18:56:40] I've almost sorted out all formalities [18:56:52] New patchset: Krinkle; "migradeGadgets: Clean up" [mediawiki/extensions/Gadgets] (RL2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16157 [18:57:43] vvv: Atm action=query&meta=globaluserinfo can only take one user at a time, do you think it's a good idea to patch it for multiple users? [18:58:11] hoo: well, if it queries local user data, that may be tricky or even undesired [18:58:15] The background is, that we want a script which can mark locked accounts (for stewards), but atm we can only query on per time [18:58:33] Isn't there any global user list? [18:58:37] New review: Jarry1250; "I read that comment but I'm not sure how you'll replace HTML with a call to the API? Presumably by f..." [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (translatesvg) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16081 [18:58:49] New patchset: Krinkle; "migrateGadgets: Clean up" [mediawiki/extensions/Gadgets] (RL2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16156 [18:58:53] Change abandoned: Krinkle; "Dupe of Id9c923fe115f7c2bba2c27caf9e73c46d5f32efc." [mediawiki/extensions/Gadgets] (RL2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16157 [18:59:02] 03(mod) Execute LoginAuthenticateAudit hook more often - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24464 +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [18:59:21] vvv: Special:GlobalUsers ?! [18:59:28] I mean, in API [18:59:38] (Krinkle: You are listed on that changeset, btw.) [18:59:41] New review: MarkTraceur; "I like the look of this, but I've made a comment and I think the l10n folks might have something to ..." [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16154 [18:59:48] vvv: no, not yet [19:00:02] but that's not needed for our purposes [19:00:13] New patchset: Krinkle; "migrateGadgets: Clean up" [mediawiki/extensions/Gadgets] (RL2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16156 [19:00:17] what is reprepo? [19:00:40] jarry1250: ok [19:01:08] New review: Anomie; "That's a lot of comments!" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16040 [19:01:38] New patchset: MarkTraceur; "(bug 37293) Add in a descriptionlang parameter, and respect it" [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/10130 [19:02:12] New patchset: Anomie; "(bug 11142) Improve file ext error reporting in API upload" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16040 [19:02:15] New review: MarkTraceur; "I've made those changes, sorry about that. Hopefully the fifth time is the charm!" [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/10130 [19:02:51] 03(mod) Review and deploy TimedMediaHandler extension (timed media handler) to Wikimedia wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27699 +comment (10Jan Kucera (Kozuch)) [19:03:43] vvv: I just want to be able to do action=query&meta=globaluserinfo&guiuser=Hoo man|DerHexer|... if that wasn't clear [19:04:53] I got you [19:04:59] I'll see if it's possible [19:05:35] vvv: My concerns were, that it's going to be slow as hell with guiprop=groups|merged|unattached [19:05:42] it already is for one user at times [19:06:23] It will [19:07:20] 03(mod) Review and deploy TimedMediaHandler extension (timed media handler) to Wikimedia wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27699 +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [19:07:43] in my specific use cases, I don't need that data, but if we make it available, the API shouldn't time out [19:08:43] the best would indeed be to create a new global user list api which only contains the data in the global users table [19:09:04] Like this http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&meta=globaluserinfo&guiuser=Hoo%20man [19:12:48] oh wait, no... a list wouldn't be enough, as I don't need users from foo on, but user foo, bar and ... :/ [19:15:33] marktraceur: Are you the author of that extension in general? [19:15:51] I'd like to do a review of that in general, I see a lot of small and big (mostly small) issues in the diff context that should be addressed first [19:19:10] New patchset: Demon; "Adding .gitreview" [mediawiki/extensions/BiblioPlus] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16159 [19:19:11] Krinkle: Yes, I'm the author generally, though I based it off of older work. I'd be greatly happy to have some review :) [19:19:15] New patchset: Demon; "Adding .gitreview" [mediawiki/extensions/Carp] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16160 [19:19:38] New patchset: Demon; "Adding .gitreview" [mediawiki/extensions/Diff] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16161 [19:19:44] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions/Carp] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16160 [19:19:55] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions/BiblioPlus] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16159 [19:20:11] New patchset: Demon; "Adding .gitreview" [mediawiki/extensions/GlobalUserGroups] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16162 [19:20:15] New patchset: Demon; "Adding .gitreview" [mediawiki/extensions/GoogleCustomWikiSearch] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16163 [19:20:18] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions/Diff] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16161 [19:20:22] New patchset: Demon; "Adding .gitreview" [mediawiki/extensions/HelpCommons] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16164 [19:20:32] New patchset: Demon; "Adding .gitreview" [mediawiki/extensions/LightweightRDFa] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16165 [19:20:41] New patchset: Demon; "Adding .gitreview" [mediawiki/extensions/MathSearch] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16166 [19:21:03] New patchset: Demon; "Adding .gitreview" [mediawiki/extensions/ReassignEdits] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16167 [19:21:10] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions/GlobalUserGroups] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16162 [19:21:14] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions/GoogleCustomWikiSearch] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16163 [19:21:17] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions/HelpCommons] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16164 [19:21:20] New patchset: Demon; "Adding .gitreview" [mediawiki/extensions/SharedCssJs] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16168 [19:21:21] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions/LightweightRDFa] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16165 [19:21:28] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions/MathSearch] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16166 [19:21:31] New patchset: Demon; "Adding .gitreview" [mediawiki/extensions/StickToThatLanguage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16169 [19:21:44] New patchset: Demon; "Adding .gitreview" [mediawiki/extensions/Tabber] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16170 [19:21:54] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions/ReassignEdits] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16167 [19:21:57] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions/SharedCssJs] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16168 [19:22:01] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions/StickToThatLanguage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16169 [19:22:04] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions/Tabber] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16170 [19:23:17] 03(FIXED) Resolution of protocol-independent wgServer for email messages should not be dependent on the performer's url protocol - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29878 +comment (10Roan Kattouw) [19:23:44] New patchset: Reedy; "Add .gitignore" [mediawiki/extensions/BiblioPlus] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16171 [19:23:54] New patchset: Reedy; "Add .gitignore" [mediawiki/extensions/Carp] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16172 [19:24:04] New patchset: Reedy; "Add .gitignore" [mediawiki/extensions/Diff] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16173 [19:24:14] New patchset: Reedy; "Add .gitignore" [mediawiki/extensions/GlobalUserGroups] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16174 [19:24:24] New patchset: Reedy; "Add .gitignore" [mediawiki/extensions/GoogleCustomWikiSearch] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16175 [19:24:34] New patchset: Reedy; "Add .gitignore" [mediawiki/extensions/HelpCommons] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16176 [19:24:44] New patchset: Reedy; "Add .gitignore" [mediawiki/extensions/LightweightRDFa] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16177 [19:24:54] New patchset: Reedy; "Add .gitignore" [mediawiki/extensions/MathSearch] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16178 [19:25:04] New patchset: Reedy; "Add .gitignore" [mediawiki/extensions/ReassignEdits] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16179 [19:25:14] New patchset: Reedy; "Add .gitignore" [mediawiki/extensions/SharedCssJs] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16180 [19:25:24] New patchset: Reedy; "Add .gitignore" [mediawiki/extensions/StickToThatLanguage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16181 [19:25:33] New patchset: Reedy; "Add .gitignore" [mediawiki/extensions/Tabber] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16182 [19:25:35] New review: Nikerabbit; "Code looks good, didn't verify." [mediawiki/extensions/BreadCrumbs] (master); V: 0 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16136 [19:26:42] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions/BiblioPlus] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16171 [19:26:45] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions/Carp] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16172 [19:26:49] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions/Diff] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16173 [19:26:52] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions/GlobalUserGroups] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16174 [19:26:56] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions/GoogleCustomWikiSearch] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16175 [19:26:59] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions/HelpCommons] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16176 [19:27:03] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions/LightweightRDFa] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16177 [19:27:06] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions/MathSearch] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16178 [19:27:10] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions/ReassignEdits] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16179 [19:27:13] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions/SharedCssJs] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16180 [19:27:17] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions/StickToThatLanguage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16181 [19:27:20] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions/Tabber] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16182 [19:32:09] Change merged: Trevor Parscal; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15452 [19:33:59] 03(mod) Improve mediawiki.special.movePage.js to remove the namespace name when the user paste the full target name in the field - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34848 +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [19:34:12] 03(mod) Ambiguous "Password:" header on Special:ChangeEmail - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35987 +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [19:35:42] New review: Nikerabbit; "We can ship html inside json (as ugly as it is) as well as the same data in structured format (good ..." [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (translatesvg); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16081 [19:35:42] 03(mod) Ambiguous "Password:" header on Special:ChangeEmail - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35987 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [19:36:46] 03(NEW) IndexPager::reallyDoQuery can return true - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38538 normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (dasch) [19:37:55] New review: Trevor Parscal; "We need a robust API, like yesterday." [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15457 [19:38:06] New review: Trevor Parscal; "We need a robust API, like yesterday." [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15457 [19:38:08] New review: Anomie; "{{Ref template|Some text....}} gives output that is odd and not what anyone would expect...." [mediawiki/extensions/Cite] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14682 [19:39:48] New review: Trevor Parscal; "Clever. And a good example of why using classes in VE is awesome." [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15456 [19:40:10] robla: got a moment to talk about https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38210 ? [19:43:22] New review: Amire80; "Probably OK, but see inline comment." [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/10130 [19:44:44] Reedy: Yeah, I considered a bug to just dump page_props, but some of the magic words get a bit tricky (like index status). [19:44:46] hey there jarry1250 - congrats on the multiple people saying that yours is a very exciting GSoC project [19:44:49] aharoni: Hm. I'm not sure why that matters? [19:44:52] Reedy: I tried to separate the bugs out in a logical manner. [19:45:01] marktraceur: me neither :) [19:45:17] Anyway, I didn't change that functionality, so it should be OK methinks [19:45:21] Krenair: I don't the new bug form has those fields. :-) [19:45:39] Yes it does [19:45:42] think * [19:45:45] You probably didn't click Show Advanced Fields [19:45:46] Oh, where are they? [19:45:50] Change merged: Trevor Parscal; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15453 [19:45:55] Probably not. I expect a sane default. ;-) [19:46:10] 03(ASSIGNED) Language list in the selector of description languages is limited and hardcoded - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31189 summary (10Amir E. Aharoni) [19:46:15] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=MediaWiki [19:46:18] Oh, there it is. [19:46:29] Never noticed that link. Thanks. :-) [19:46:33] Brooke: We had exactly the same reaction :P [19:46:40] 03(mod) Improve mediawiki.special.movePage.js to remove the namespace name when the user paste the full target name in the field - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34848 +comment (10Krinkle) [19:46:44] Bugzilla's interface is second only in terribleness to Gerrit's. [19:46:55] Change merged: Trevor Parscal; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15454 [19:46:56] 03(mod) Adding customization of unwatched changes to user preferences - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38210 +design (10Sumana Harihareswara) [19:46:57] JUST ADD MORE COLLAPSE JAVASCRIPT. [19:47:05] That's how you design an interface, right? [19:47:17] I didn't know about bug histories for _years_. [19:47:28] 03(mod) Language list in the selector of description languages is limited and hardcoded - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31189 +i18n (10Amir E. Aharoni) [19:47:52] 03(mod) Improve mediawiki.special.movePage.js to remove the namespace name when the user paste the full target name in the field - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34848 -patch-need-review +patch-reviewed (10Sumana Harihareswara) [19:49:10] saper: People seem to have different standards for what constitutes a broken CAPTCHA. [19:49:15] Knowing the dictionary is kind of cheating. [19:49:22] Though you obviously achieve the ends. [19:49:23] New patchset: J; "Fix various FIXMES" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15985 [19:49:29] 03(mod) Make it possible to pass description language in the UploadWizard - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37293 -patch -patch-need-review +i18n +patch-reviewed; +comment (10Amir E. Aharoni) [19:50:49] 03(mod) Reimplement MediaWiki's info action (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38450 +comment (10Bawolff) [19:53:01] New patchset: MarkTraceur; "Add in a share link field" [mediawiki/extensions/EtherEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16151 [19:53:12] New patchset: Kaldari; "Adding WikiLove module, also making modules more configurable" [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14427 [19:53:53] 03(mod) Add page protection status to MediaWiki's info action - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38536 normal->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [19:53:54] 03(mod) Add latest editor and timestamp to MediaWiki's info action - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38527 normal->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [19:53:54] 03(mod) Add LiquidThreads status to MediaWiki's info action - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38534 normal->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [19:53:56] 03(mod) Add "external links" section to MediaWiki's info action - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38537 normal->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [19:53:57] 03(mod) Add default category sort value to MediaWiki's info action - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38532 normal->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [19:53:58] 03(mod) Add display title value to MediaWiki's info action - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38533 normal->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [19:53:58] 03(mod) Add magic word usage to MediaWiki's info action - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38530 normal->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [19:53:59] 03(mod) Add page creation timestamp and author to MediaWiki's info action - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38526 normal->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [19:53:59] 03(mod) Add (search) index status to MediaWiki's info action - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38531 normal->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [19:54:19] 03(mod) Add LiquidThreads status to MediaWiki's info action - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38534 (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [19:55:41] 03(mod) Add LiquidThreads status to MediaWiki's info action - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38534 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [19:56:50] Brooke: chosen plain text/dictionary attacks are also considered valid attacks to hack the system; dictionaries/rainbow tables can be used to break the protection, so of course it should be considered and contributes to the overall strength of a solution [20:03:14] New review: AABoyles; "Looks fine to me!" [mediawiki/extensions/BreadCrumbs] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16136 [20:03:14] Change merged: AABoyles; [mediawiki/extensions/BreadCrumbs] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16136 [20:10:57] I upgraded from 1.16 to 1.19.1 do I need to modify my skin to get the resourceloader to output? [20:12:27] saper: Well, CAPTCHAs have always been silly in the sense that you can just shell out the work to cheap labor. [20:12:42] In terms of security, it never existed, right... [20:13:33] With Wikimedia's CAPTCHA, the entire 10,000 word dictionary is available, I think. [20:15:47] New code comment: Renklauf; Hi bawolff, \ I'm reviewing this code. In SubpageSortkey_body.php there doesn't seem to be any excep; [20:20:16] 03(mod) Install extension:SubpageSortkey on wikibooks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22911 +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [20:23:36] hi Daniel_WMDE [20:23:38] got a second? [20:23:55] sure, what's up? [20:24:45] Daniel_WMDE: so, how are the Wikidata code review / learning / mentorship efforts going? [20:25:32] sumanah: sorry i missed you earlier, i was doing a candidate interview [20:25:47] sumanah: im working on code review for the rest of the day [20:26:22] sumanah: slowly, i guess. i'm not quit back in the loop yet. I know that abraham is working to make people do code review, etc [20:27:14] sumanah: however, we are seeing increasing volunteer interest in contributing to the wikidata codebase. a good reason to re-examine this. [20:28:15] awjr: oh no prob [20:28:49] Change merged: awjrichards; [test/mediawiki/extensions/examples] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13128 [20:30:27] New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Load missing dependency in debug dashboard" [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16185 [20:30:28] New patchset: Ori.livneh; "PEF0 Fix-ups" [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16186 [20:30:33] Change merged: Ori.livneh; [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16186 [20:30:33] Change merged: Ori.livneh; [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16185 [20:31:09] 03(mod) write a job loop to handle webVideoTranscode jobs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37470 (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [20:31:12] 03(mod) Review and deploy TimedMediaHandler extension (timed media handler) to Wikimedia wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27699 (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [20:31:41] 03(mod) wikimedia-job-runner should be able to run a specific job type - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38455 (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [20:31:43] 03(mod) Review and deploy TimedMediaHandler extension (timed media handler) to Wikimedia wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27699 (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [20:33:01] 03(mod) wikimedia-job-runner should be able to run a specific job type - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38455 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [20:33:39] 03(NEW) references disappear - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38539 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Cite; (dasch) [20:34:12] New review: Mwjames; "For clarification, this change did not alter nor changed the behaviour of the sorting in Special:Ask. " [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16147 [20:35:36] hi guys and ladies. Is there possible to make all the pages visible, but close several ones? I only see the ability to close all the pages, but specify what pages should be available for anonymous view ( $wgWhitelistRead ), but I can't find anything like $wgBlacklistRead [20:37:33] hi dfrank [20:37:39] "close"? [20:38:05] dfrank: close, like, ensure no one can see them? [20:38:25] sumanah: i meant "make non-readable except specified users/groups" [20:39:09] *for everyone, except ... [20:41:18] Right [20:41:50] So, I think sometimes these are called "lockdown" or similar [20:42:06] 03(mod) Implement mw.Api convenience method for loading interface messages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38280 +comment (10Paul Selitskas) [20:42:12] dfrank: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Lockdown [20:42:19] caution: see the warning at the top of the page, dfrank. [20:42:39] Krinkle, which one is the preferred way to create a div in jQuery, $( '
    ' ) or $( '
    ' )? https://pt.wikipedia.org/?diff=31375304 [20:42:53] *throws computer across room* Is it really so difficult to install rsvg on shared hosting? Yes. Yes it is. [20:42:57] I remember seeing something about one of the syntax causing problems on IE... [20:43:13] rsvg/librsvg [20:43:16] sumanah: thanks [20:44:17] jarry1250: considered using labs? [20:44:50] Nikerabbit: I got my own XAMPP Windows version running locally, that's fine. But I need a publicly accessible test wiki. [20:44:53] ...with rsvg. [20:45:12] I mean, I thought IM had the features I needed but it appears not to. [20:45:13] sumanah, dfrank: Lockdown works per namespace. It should be pretty solid, I hope (though do heed the general warning). There's are alternatives (I think one is SimpleSecurity), can't speak for them, though. [20:45:19] you can do that with labs...somehow [20:45:50] I remember asking a while back, and the general answer was in the negative. [20:45:59] Daniel_WMDE: ok, thanks [20:46:18] Daniel_WMDE: re code review: if you all are happy with your current set of test commits to review, yay :) [20:46:28] jarry1250: labs gives you a vm and lets you do pretty much whatever with it. so, yes, it's possible. it just means you have to be your own sysadmin. [20:46:30] I'm behind on responding to your team re those [20:46:40] 03(NEW) $result in Title::checkPermissionHooks should be initialized as an array, invoking extensions updated - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38540 normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (arichards) [20:47:06] Main issue with labs is a lack of public ips [20:47:12] Change merged: awjrichards; [mediawiki/extensions/TorBlock] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11215 [20:47:56] sumanah: we have realtively litttle interaction with the core devs, since we mainly commit to our "own" extension. I don't have current figures on our contribution to the review of core stuff or other extension. i hope it's still there. [20:48:12] otoh, i didn't do any reviewing while in the us for wikimania. [20:48:16] or any codeing, for that matter [20:48:33] Reedy: Ah yes, I think that was the point raised before, although you may remember better. [20:48:46] ah, yes. there's that. [20:48:52] ipv6 to the rescuew ;) [20:48:59] Reedy: what's the status of ipv6 on labs? [20:49:10] What's the review level got to be before you can get an install to one of the existing test wikis? [20:49:12] No idea, unfortuantely [20:49:20] High, I guess. [20:49:37] jarry1250: i guess you'll have to ask whoever runs the respective wiki. [20:49:41] Ryan would know re ipv6 for labs (or faidon, but he's AFK) [20:49:43] so: "it depends". [20:49:55] * Reedy sits and waits for his isp to support ipv6 [20:49:58] * Reedy dies of boredom [20:50:14] hi jarry1250 [20:50:29] jarry1250: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Writing_an_extension_for_deployment does that help? [20:50:38] New patchset: J; "add optional options to jobs-loop.sh" [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaMaintenance] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15954 [20:51:00] when you say "test wiki" do you mean something like test2.wikipedia.org ? [20:51:08] Nemo put together a list of test wikis a while back [20:51:19] Reedy: so... how about setting up an http proxy on some labs box, and automatically make it forward some auto-generated subdomain to people's vms? [20:51:40] jarry1250: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2012-April/059887.html [20:52:46] sumanah: Yes, something like that. Basically I've going to want to have people test my code at some point, so I just installed 1.18.1 on my personal shared hosting but setting up librsvg (which I need) on there is a total nightmare. [20:53:23] jarry1250: oh dear! yeah, that's what Labs is supposed to be for? [20:53:56] sumanah: as reedy pointed out, the probloem with labs is lack of public ips. and lack of ipv6. [20:54:03] yeah [20:54:06] :( [20:54:08] i suggested to work around the issue using an http proxy, see above. [20:54:25] would be doable. would need some work to do it automagically, though. [20:54:35] having ipv6 wouldn't help much [20:54:56] Krenair: well, it would solve the problem at least in theory :) [20:55:20] I mean, shortterm my extension could just live in a corner of a wiki, minding its own business, just generating the odd logspam etc when people tried it out. [20:55:37] But you've still got security issues (I'm no expert re those, I confess) [20:56:53] jarry1250: the test wikis run by the wmf are generally for testing stuff for deployment on wmf servers. so... to get on there, there would have to be a community request to be enabled on a wmf wiki [20:56:54] so, jarry1250, if you want to get your work onto one of those "too many" random test wikis, like test. or prototype., maybe chrismcmahon can help you? [20:57:22] New patchset: Jdlrobson; "deal with chrome initial popstate" [mediawiki/extensions/ApiSandbox] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16187 [20:59:33] Change merged: Trevor Parscal; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12720 [20:59:47] New patchset: Catrope; "Moved summary functions into custom assertions" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15220 [21:01:05] Daniel_WMDE: Hmm, yes, looking down the list they do all seem deployment related. Is Labs literally a "no more public IPs" thing then? Or just rationing? (Sorry, not very familiar with this sort of thing.) [21:01:44] New review: Catrope; "Rebased onto master to fix whitespace conflicts and to make this testable (didn't depend on QUnit up..." [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15220 [21:01:44] Change merged: Catrope; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15220 [21:01:57] 03(mod) wikimedia-job-runner should be able to run a specific job type - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38455 +comment (10j^) [21:02:07] Change merged: MaxSem; [mediawiki/extensions/ApiSandbox] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16187 [21:02:13] Krinkle: Could I give you a gentle prod on https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/12833/ - having just wasted 3 hours of my life I'm feeling kinda unproductive :/ [21:04:45] jarry1250: rationing i guess. it is possible to get one every now and then. and as i said, an http proxy would be an option. Someone (tm) would just need to set that up. [21:04:55] so, keep bugging [21:05:03] jarry1250: you can ask in #wikimedia-labs ? [21:05:22] sumanah: Yup, will do in a sec. [21:05:41] jarry1250: as Johnny Carson said to Steve Martin after Martin did yodeling and juggling on national TV, you'll use everything you ever learned [21:06:02] I cheer myself up with that after I feel I've wasted some time [21:06:34] Heh :) It's like "oh, you just run apt-get librsvg", taunting me. [21:06:51] As if it know I'm on shared hosting with no shell access and definitely no apt-get. [21:06:55] *knows [21:07:00] plop [21:07:13] New review: awjrichards; "I'm concerned about this changeset - I can appreciate wanting to cache generated data, but what happ..." [mediawiki/extensions/Score] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7581 [21:07:25] no shell access is just deal breaker to me [21:08:24] New patchset: Kaldari; "Curation toolbar deletion wizard" [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14438 [21:08:45] New patchset: Catrope; "First stab at list indent/outdent" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15455 [21:08:46] New patchset: Catrope; "Make Enter in an empty list item unindent" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16004 [21:08:46] New patchset: Catrope; "Split canHaveSlug() into canHaveSlugBefore() and canHaveSlugAfter()" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16102 [21:08:46] New patchset: Catrope; "Do not put slugs after nested lists" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16103 [21:08:47] New patchset: Catrope; "Let Tab and Shift+Tab trigger indentation again" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15457 [21:08:47] New patchset: Catrope; "Work around crazy list rendering bug in Firefox" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15456 [21:08:48] thanks awjr! [21:09:01] New review: MaxSem; "The DB solution was requested by Tim in https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33193#c7" [mediawiki/extensions/Score] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7581 [21:09:21] awjr: wish you could have been at Wikimania - Markus and Anja gave a presentation about Score [21:09:31] awww [21:09:34] was it recorded? [21:10:16] im bummed i missed wikimania this year - im really hoping to go next time [21:10:49] Nikerabbit: Well, I say no shell access, I really mean console because you can (if you fancy some pain) try to get at it using php's exec() function. Oh, how time flies when you're having fun... [21:10:51] I still haven't been to one.. [21:11:34] Reedy: Bummer 2013 isn't in London [21:11:44] Change merged: awjrichards; [mediawiki/extensions/ActiveAbstract] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/6106 [21:12:22] RoanKattouw: I think I should probably tell my parents they can't go on holiday between dates X and Y next year... As for the last 3 they've successfully managed to clash [21:12:26] <^demon> jarry1250: If you can run apt-get via exec() in php, that's a huge security issue that your php is being run as root. [21:12:31] lol [21:12:36] Change abandoned: awjrichards; "This change is no longer needed" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/6562 [21:12:46] Reedy: "Stay home in early August next year, I gotta go to Hong Kong" [21:12:55] ^demon: Oh, no, I can't get apt-get either way. That would be far too easy. [21:13:22] <^demon> RoanKattouw: I just go and show them pictures later :) [21:13:53] No, I'm supposed to install like a dozen different programs manually if I want librsvg. [21:14:21] RoanKattouw: if I book flights soon, they might be at a decent price ;) [21:14:28] jarry1250: what extension? [21:15:02] <^demon> lol https://github.com/klaussilveira/gitlist/issues/80 [21:16:35] <^demon> Actually, most of the open issues are kind of funny. [21:17:16] awjr: yes, their talk was recorded, so someday you can see it! [21:19:28] New patchset: Kaldari; "Curation toolbar deletion wizard" [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14438 [21:19:44] 03(mod) Handle 
     overflow automatically with a scroll bar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/260  +comment (10Trevor Parscal)
[21:20:28] 	 sumanah: Speaking of which, do you happen to know when that might be?
[21:20:34] 	 (videos online)
[21:20:36] 	 New patchset: Trevor Parscal; "Revert "(bug 260) Handle 
     overflow automatically with a scroll bar"" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16189
[21:20:56] 	 jarry1250: sorry, like everyone I am waiting for word from the Wikimania team
[21:21:17] 	 jarry1250: I actually have to find someone at WMF to ask, like Roan or Sam, to help get Vimeo stuff from the Berlin hackathon onto Commons
[21:21:17] 	 Sure thing.
[21:21:56] 	 Change merged: Trevor Parscal; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15455
[21:21:57] 	 03(mod) Handle 
     overflow automatically with a scroll bar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/260  +comment (10Krinkle)
[21:22:10] 	 sumanah: I can do the tech part of it as long as someone else does all the handiwork: 1) getting all the files in one place 2) naming them appropriately 3) providing .txt files containing file description page wikitext for each file
[21:22:42] 	 hey folks, I've got a problem with a freshly installed mediawiki 1.19.1 on centos 6.3. permissions appear correct, etc. but I'm getting log errors saying permission denied. here's a pastebin of the pertinent information: http://pastie.org/4292003
[21:22:51] 	 importImages is the easy part ;
[21:23:37] 	 Change merged: Trevor Parscal; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16103
[21:23:38] 	 Change merged: Trevor Parscal; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16102
[21:23:38] 	 Change merged: Trevor Parscal; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16004
[21:23:38] 	 Change merged: Trevor Parscal; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15457
[21:23:39] 	 Change merged: Trevor Parscal; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15456
[21:25:23] 	 Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16147
[21:27:37] 	 I should note that the install/configuration ran properly.
[21:28:10] 	 hi caimlas 
[21:28:33] 	 sumanah, hi. are you able to help me?
[21:28:42] 	 I posted a link to a pastie a moment ago
[21:28:43] 	 caimlas: I'm looking
[21:28:47] 	 awesome. :)
[21:28:49] 	 thank you.
[21:28:51] 	 yeah, I'm scrolling eastward through that
[21:29:19] 	 oh, thanks may be premature ;-)  
[21:29:35] 	 ok, so you looked up permissions with regards to WebStart?
[21:30:00] 	 and you're running as root
[21:30:14] 	 "running as root"?
[21:30:19] 	 no, I su'd to nobody
[21:30:28] 	 su -s /bin/bash - nobody
[21:30:47] 	 ok
[21:31:29] 	 Your LocalSettings is shown as being in a wiki folder, whent he rest of it is in mediawiki-1.19.1
[21:31:44] 	 Where does the wiki folder map to?
[21:32:20] 	 wiki -> mediawiki-1.19.1 
[21:32:22] 	 same path
[21:32:44] 	 doesn't matter if I go to the absolute or symlinked path
[21:33:31] 	 caimlas: Reedy's about a billion times more expert than me here so I'll leave you in his hands
[21:33:36] 	 or mediawiki-l
[21:33:39] 	 !lists | caimlas 
[21:33:39] 	 caimlas: mediawiki-l and wikitech-l are the primary mailing lists for MediaWiki-related issues. See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mailing_lists for details.
[21:34:03] 	 oh it's still 1.19.* as a release. so will there be 1.20wmf* forever and never 1.20 release?
[21:34:18] 	 There will
[21:34:24] 	 circa september time, IIRC
[21:34:37] 	 eg. I get a 500 error if I go to hostname/mediawiki-1.19.1
[21:35:11] 	 liangent: hexmode & others are looking at tarball releases as something possibly to be done by folks outside of Wikimedia Foundation
[21:35:20] 	 snap I think I 'found' the problem.
[21:35:27] 	 may be php related, though the checks all passed..
[21:36:05] 	 jdlrobson: http://p.defau.lt/?tweaGsaOikzE1znlAgxA0w
[21:36:05] 	 oho
[21:36:53] 	 liangent: if you're interested in helping out, email me
[21:37:41] 	 liangent: for now, I was gonna be content with two releases a year, but if the WMF releases make you hungry...
[21:37:54] 	 ok, biab
[21:39:13] 	 I upgraded from 1.16 to 1.19.1 Do I need to add anything to my skin to get the resourceloader including scripts?
[21:39:27] 	 hexmode: help in what way?
[21:39:52] 	 liangent: any way.  like nagging me -- for starters ;)
[21:39:57] 	 no, I haven't found my problem. php checks out.
[21:39:57] 	 New patchset: Jdlrobson; "refactor form submission" [mediawiki/extensions/ApiSandbox] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16190
[21:39:58] 	 New patchset: Jdlrobson; "auto generate values for the user via a button (bug 36875)" [mediawiki/extensions/ApiSandbox] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16191
[21:40:16] 	 03(mod) Sandbox to automatically deal with tokens - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36875  +comment (10Jon)
[21:40:22] 	 tekmosis: Yes, it is likely that your custom skin overrides methods that break resourceloader
[21:40:28] 	 tekmosis: I'm not too familiar with the skin system, maybe someone else can help you out. But if all else fails, you could look at the current version of the Vector skin for inspiration
[21:40:58] 	 New review: awjrichards; "This generally looks sane to me, but I am concerned about the removal of the Orange carrier identifi..." [mediawiki/extensions/ZeroRatedMobileAccess] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13934
[21:41:19] 	 Krinkle?
[21:41:47] 	 hexmode: I guess we're trying to keeping our master in an always-ready-to-release state?
[21:42:22] 	 liangent: that is what the WMF is kind of doing, but check with robla to verify
[21:43:26] 	 Change merged: awjrichards; [mediawiki/extensions/Math] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13431
[21:44:41] 	 tekmosis: take a look at extensions/skins/Nimbus for a pretty good example of how to write a custom skin, complete with ResourceLoader support :)
[21:44:55] 	 03(mod) Hide data namespace bot edits in RecentChanges - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37344  +comment (10snaevar)
[21:45:25] 	 New patchset: Kaldari; "Curation toolbar deletion wizard" [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14438
[21:51:08] 	 New patchset: Catrope; "Prepend a colon to internal links to Category: and File: pages" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14605
[21:52:20] 	 RoanKattouw: why is visualeditor and the parser in the same "package"?
[21:53:06] 	 AzaToth: For now they're in the same repository (extensions/VisualEditor.git). I imagine this won't be the case forever
[21:56:45] 	 RoanKattouw: 325 total passed tests, 435 total failures
[21:56:47] 	 lol
[21:58:18] 	 03(mod) Enable HSTS on Wikimedia wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38516  +comment (10Ryan Lane)
[21:59:16] 	 Yeah
[21:59:53] 	 Change merged: Catrope; [mediawiki/extensions/Gadgets] (RL2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16156
[22:04:13] 	 New review: awjrichards; "Please see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Coding_conventions/PHP" [mediawiki/extensions/DonationInterface] (master); V: 0 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14431
[22:05:50] 	 03(mod) Enable HSTS on Wikimedia wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38516  +comment (10Roan Kattouw)
[22:06:05] 	 New review: awjrichards; "You've got some trailing whitespace and style issues here. Please see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/..." [mediawiki/extensions/DonationInterface] (master); V: 0 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14415
[22:07:18] 	 Reedy, did you happen to see my pastie? I'd appreciate a look. 
[22:08:05] 	 New review: Kaldari; "Just a couple things." [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master); V: 0 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14438
[22:10:44] 	 New review: awjrichards; "You might want to look at some other recent extension to see how they handle hooks. There's kind of ..." [mediawiki/extensions/DonationInterface] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14416
[22:12:58] 	 Does anyone know of any tool that will help clear a site of years of spam?
[22:13:22] 	 there are very few legit pages and users
[22:15:18] 	 slide23, you should probably identify the legitimate ones and export
[22:15:34] 	 then recreate the wiki from scratch and import the legit pages
[22:15:48] 	 and then secure it a bit.
[22:15:54] 	 :)
[22:16:26] 	 mediawiki, or rather, wikipedia at least, has a suite of spam fighting tools I saw some time ago. I'm not sure if those are available
[22:18:57] 	 New patchset: Kaldari; "Adding WikiLove module, also making modules more configurable" [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14427
[22:19:23] 	 New patchset: MaxSem; "Bug 38517 - mixup of prop, list and meta parameters" [mediawiki/extensions/ApiSandbox] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16193
[22:19:57] 	 New review: Kaldari; "rebased for merge" [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14427
[22:19:58] 	 Change merged: Kaldari; [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14427
[22:20:18] 	 03(mod) Permanent link to prefilled APISandbox doesn't work with lists - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38517  +comment (10Max Semenik)
[22:28:29] 	 03(mod) Enable HSTS on Wikimedia wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38516  +comment (10Ryan Lane)
[22:30:22] 	 03(mod) Enable HSTS on Wikimedia wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38516  +comment (10Roan Kattouw)
[22:30:50] 	 New patchset: Catrope; "Bug 33163 - VisualEditor: Floating toolbar should not be displayed when the edit area is entirely off-screen" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14072
[22:31:04] 	 Change merged: Catrope; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14072
[22:34:54] 	 03(mod) Enable HSTS on Wikimedia wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38516  +comment (10Ryan Lane)
[22:36:28] 	 03(mod) Replace MD5 password hashing with WHIRLPOOL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28419  +comment (10Daniel Friesen)
[22:39:02] 	 New patchset: SPQRobin; "Make DateFormatter work in any language, by default in the page content language" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9610
[22:39:17] 	 New review: Catrope; "I especially approve of the comment :)" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15950
[22:39:17] 	 Change merged: Catrope; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15950
[22:40:29] 	 New review: Adamw; "Let me kick this one too!  I only made the compatibility change in the sendLimboSTOMP function, but ..." [mediawiki/extensions/DonationInterface] (master); V: 0 C: -2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14431
[22:41:06] 	 Change merged: Catrope; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15635
[22:41:17] 	 New patchset: Kaldari; "Curation toolbar deletion wizard" [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14438
[22:42:06] 	 New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Update E3Experiments to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf7) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16194
[22:46:00] 	 New patchset: Catrope; "(bug 38190) Add "required" flag to some token params" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14608
[22:47:17] 	 New review: Jdlrobson; "I'm investigating this... something feels wrong about this fix." [mediawiki/extensions/ApiSandbox] (master) C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16193
[22:59:00] 	 03(NEW) QRpedia links do not open in Android app - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38541 normal; Wikipedia App: Generic; (philinje)
[22:59:11] 	 New patchset: Reedy; "Add action-manageproject message key" [mediawiki/extensions/OpenStackManager] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16195
[23:00:20] 	 New patchset: Kaldari; "Simplifying the list row logic since we're no longer susing background colors to show status." [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16196
[23:04:44] 	 New patchset: Reedy; "Add action-manageproject message key" [mediawiki/extensions/OpenStackManager] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16195
[23:05:38] 	 Change merged: Ryan Lane; [mediawiki/extensions/OpenStackManager] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16195
[23:07:25] 	 Change merged: GWicke; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15980
[23:15:09] 	 New patchset: Bsitu; "Curation toolbar deletion wizard" [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14438
[23:17:25] 	 New review: Daniel Friesen; "I see some unrelated stuff inside of patch set 2. Did some unrelated code leak into your amend or di..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16049
[23:24:38] 	 New patchset: Kaldari; "Curation toolbar deletion wizard" [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14438
[23:25:11] 	 Change merged: Kaldari; [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14438
[23:30:37] 	 Change merged: MaxSem; [mediawiki/extensions/ApiSandbox] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16190
[23:33:13] 	 03(mod) Improve mediawiki.special.movePage.js to remove the namespace name when the user paste the full target name in the field - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34848  (10mybugs.mail)
[23:34:28] 	 Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf7) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16194
[23:35:02] 	 New patchset: Pgehres; "Switching fundraising from wmfwiki to donate wiki for LP link creation" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16198
[23:36:42] 	 Change merged: Jalexander; [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16198
[23:39:43] 	 New patchset: Jdlrobson; "refactor applyObject function (bug 38517)" [mediawiki/extensions/ApiSandbox] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16199
[23:40:23] 	 New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "Refactored link normalization, moved to SiteLink" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16200
[23:43:06] 	 New patchset: Jdlrobson; "refactor applyObject function (bug 38517)" [mediawiki/extensions/ApiSandbox] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16199
[23:44:16] 	 Change merged: Catrope; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14608
[23:44:37] 	 New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "Use wfUrlencode for prettyness and consistency." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16201
[23:47:24] 	 New review: MaxSem; "Because this code doesn't unset the already set fields, applyRemainingFieldParameters() sets them again" [mediawiki/extensions/ApiSandbox] (master); V: 0 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16199
[23:49:37] 	 Would it be possible to get some help loading wikibits.js into my skin?
[23:50:25] 	 Krinkle: ---^^
[23:50:36] 	 New patchset: Catrope; "Prepend a colon to internal links to Category: and File: pages" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14605
[23:50:36] 	 New patchset: Catrope; "Factored out building the annotation into a separate function." [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14604
[23:50:57] 	 Change merged: Catrope; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14605
[23:50:57] 	 Change merged: Catrope; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14604
[23:51:12] 	 ScarredSun: You don't have to load it, resource loader loads it for you. Make sure your skin implements ResourceLoader properly. I don't know much about skins in general, someone else might know. For inspiration look at Vector skin in ./skins/vector
[23:51:36] 	 /nick Krinkle-away
[23:52:18] 	 FAIL
[23:52:55] 	 !svn
[23:52:55] 	 Subversion is a version control software that allows users to download the very latest version of a branch without having to wait for someone to get around to packaging it. Advantages to using Subversion include the latest version, vastly simplified updating, the ability to roll back an upgrade, the ability to create and submit patches. See http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Subversion for more information.
[23:54:59] 	 is there a guide for converting a svn checkout to git?