[00:01:45] 03(FIXED) Disorientating when switching between countries - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38893 (10Jon) [00:03:20] 03(NEW) Back button behaviour from use my current location geo lookup is wrong - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38900 normal; WikiLoves Monuments Mobile: General; (jrobson) [00:03:54] 03(FIXED) Current location doesn't always work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38895 (10Jon) [00:06:56] New patchset: Catrope; "Formatting updates for Echo." [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17031 [00:07:04] New patchset: Mwjames; "Fixed consistency with jqplot.series (no added functionality)" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17151 [00:13:59] New patchset: J; "format dates before output" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17152 [00:16:32] New patchset: Catrope; "Echo: Implement advanced notifications for vanilla talk pages." [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16859 [00:16:32] New patchset: Catrope; "Formatting updates for Echo." [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17031 [00:16:49] New review: Catrope; "PS4 is a rebase against master" [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16859 [00:17:16] New review: Catrope; "PS 9 was a rebase onto the correct dependency, PS 10 was a rebase onto master" [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17031 [00:17:57] Change merged: J; [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17152 [00:18:13] New patchset: Kaldari; "Fix for bug38770" [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17124 [00:20:05] Change merged: Kaldari; [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17124 [00:24:48] Change merged: Catrope; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9979 [00:24:59] New patchset: Kaldari; "Adding new minimize and close functionality" [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17022 [00:26:49] Change merged: Catrope; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17042 [00:30:32] 03(mod) getting bogus "No new message" occasionally - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28579 (10mybugs.mail) [00:32:22] Has anyone talked about having a standard libs directory for extensions , so you dont have duplicates and could make standard libs for mediawiki coders could use [00:36:35] I will go ahead and make a standard directory for my extensions , but would be nice to have one as part of standard base. [00:37:12] factor: What do you mean by standard libs? [00:37:19] There's already a libs directory in MediaWiki. [00:37:31] If multiple extensions need the same code, it seems like a case for merging the code into core? [00:37:45] Or maybe you meant JavaScript libraries? [00:38:16] geshi simplepie etc [00:39:34] text highlighter , RSS lib [00:39:37] Not really sure why you'd use anything other than the extension's dir, but you can file a bug in Bugzilla if you'd like. [00:40:29] waste space and have a std set of libs for ext coders to use [00:40:57] Change merged: Bsitu; [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17022 [00:41:11] New patchset: Mdale; "Include messages in top level extension, to support script msg cache" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17153 [00:41:40] Was that a reply to me or were you just throwing words together in hopes of making a sentence? :-) [00:42:25] All of above [00:43:26] Would help out the extension coder community [00:44:09] it took me a while to find the best RSS lib with the most stuff. and install instructions would be standard for external libs. [00:44:23] New patchset: Mdale; "Include module message in extension file, add check for messages" [mediawiki/extensions/MwEmbedSupport] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17154 [00:44:30] Change merged: Catrope; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16932 [00:45:52] i.e make a page with a bunch of PHP libs that extensions could use , and build on these libs so they grow and not fork as much [00:46:13] keep as many people on the same page with lib usage [00:47:09] not any major change , just a protocol method for extension coders. [00:48:20] Change merged: Catrope; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9261 [00:49:12] New patchset: Krinkle; "Kranitor #004: MediaWiki-specific clean up and minor fixes" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17155 [00:51:53] kranitor? [00:52:08] Krinkle janitor [00:52:27] Danny_B|backup: I've got a bouncer now, so I'll be on 24/7 (when toolserveris up) [00:52:37] when I'm detached nick is krinkle_ [00:53:08] why not krinkle|away? ;-) [00:53:20] krinkle|detached [00:53:32] krinkle|not-here [00:53:42] because I don't want that [00:53:55] my away msg contains "Screen detached" [00:53:56] that's what i assumed ;-) [00:54:05] just clean and simple [00:54:05] brb [00:55:07] New patchset: SPQRobin; "Add recognised browser languages to the list too" [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaIncubator] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17156 [00:58:53] back [01:00:24] New patchset: Kaldari; "Making it so curation toolbar has separate close and minimize buttons." [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17157 [01:01:17] New patchset: SPQRobin; "(bug 31243) DoubleWiki view has bug in RTL wikis direction" [mediawiki/extensions/DoubleWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15637 [01:01:26] New patchset: Robmoen; "Fixed problem with closing context menu on document blur." [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17129 [01:02:59] New patchset: Robmoen; "Fixed problem with closing context menu on document blur." [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17129 [01:04:35] 03(mod) VisualEditor: "Edit Source" link should preserver original query parameters (such as oldid) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38125 summary (10Krinkle) [01:06:43] Change merged: Catrope; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17129 [01:09:59] 03(mod) Add Portal NS to Urdu Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/19569 +comment (10Krenair) [01:11:51] 03(mod) API should use status codes for errors - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38716 +comment (10Jon) [01:12:33] 03(NEW) HTML appearing in disallow/warn notices - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38901 trivial; MediaWiki extensions: AbuseFilter; (brandonskypimenta) [01:13:09] 03(mod) HTML appearing in disallow/warn notices - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38901 +comment (10Brandon Sky) [01:15:28] 03(NEW) VisualEditor: onbeforeunload throws Uncaught TypeError when leaving page from "Read" mode - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38902 normal; VisualEditor: General; (krinklemail) [01:19:47] New patchset: GWicke; "Move newlines outside of paragraphs" [mediawiki/extensions/Parsoid] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17145 [01:23:18] 03(mod) Notices on Special:GlobalUsers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38898 +comment (10Krenair) [01:25:10] 03(mod) Chunked upload fails with internal_api_error_UploadStashFileNotFoundException - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36587 +comment (10Erik Moeller) [01:29:36] New review: Tim Starling; "Why does it construct a merged array of default and local settings? Isn't that a waste of time and m..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14346 [01:31:26] Someone... back me as a BDFL... Gareth or an OAuth replacement... either one is good! [01:36:41] 03(mod) API should use status codes for errors - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38716 +comment (10MZMcBride) [01:44:26] 03(ASSIGNED) VisualEditor: onbeforeunload throws Uncaught TypeError when leaving page from "Read" mode - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38902 +comment (10James Forrester) [01:46:05] 03(NEW) Enable SubPageList3 on cswiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38903 normal; Wikimedia: Site configuration; (danny.b) [01:47:20] New patchset: Mdale; "Include module message in extension file, add check for messages" [mediawiki/extensions/MwEmbedSupport] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17154 [01:47:32] 03(mod) Enable SubPageList3 on cswiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38903 +comment (10Krenair) [01:48:04] Change merged: J; [mediawiki/extensions/MwEmbedSupport] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17154 [01:48:14] Change merged: J; [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17153 [01:52:32] New patchset: Spage; "Tool for generating CSVs from clicktracking logs" [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17000 [01:53:17] New patchset: Anomie; "Allow manipulation of wl_notificationtimestamp via the API" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11965 [01:56:36] New patchset: Anomie; "Allow manipulation of wl_notificationtimestamp via the API" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11965 [01:57:01] New patchset: J; "fix Special:TimedMediaHandler totals" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17159 [01:57:38] New review: Anomie; "Patchset 3 takes care of the issue Roan raised. Patchset 4 is a rebase-only change to resolve the us..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11965 [01:58:14] Change merged: J; [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17159 [02:12:40] New patchset: J; "fix link to players in non javascript fallback" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17160 [02:25:18] Hey. I have a specific file in my local network which has a link file://link to file.html....If i want to access it from my media wiki page directly...as in click on the link and open that page. How do i do that? [02:26:21] 03(mod) Left/right aligned images should flip in RTL pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38351 +comment (10Robin Pepermans (SPQRobin)) [02:42:00] Hello. Anyone can help out with File:// extension? [02:44:39] 03(NEW) prop=revisions&rvstart=... blows up when continuing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38904 normal; MediaWiki: API; (b-jorsch) [02:46:44] Change abandoned: Aaron Schulz; "Not needed for i18n." [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf7) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17104 [02:50:24] New patchset: Anomie; "(bug 38904) prop=revisions&rvstart=... should not blow up when continuing" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17161 [02:50:38] 03(mod) prop=revisions&rvstart=... blows up when continuing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38904 +comment (10Brad Jorsch) [02:54:32] 03(NEW) ShortUrl does not work on non wikipedia projects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38905 normal; MediaWiki extensions: ShortUrl; (srik.lak) [02:54:32] 03(mod) Tamil Wiki projects (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32578 (10Srikanth Logic) [02:56:01] New patchset: Mwjames; "Fix vanished width/height parameter when using a template" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17162 [02:57:56] hello? anyway to open file:// links in media wiki? [03:01:31] eagle_: file:// links point to local resources (files on your computer) [03:02:16] eagle_: they are relative to the computer you are on. http://google.com is the same from my computer or yours, but file://c:/mydoc.html is different on mine and on yours [03:02:28] so they're not really shareable with others [03:02:34] Yea. its on the lan. I am looking to create an intranet [03:02:38] for my team [03:03:07] if the file is on a network drive that is mounted under the same path on all machines, it might work [03:03:09] so if i have a file with the link file://linktofile , i know all others in my team will have the same link only. [03:03:16] so if i have a file with the link file://linktofile , i know all others in my team will have the same link only. [03:03:20] how do i make it work? [03:03:28] because if i give it as a normal link. [03:03:46] the link comes without a : in the final opening page and hence the page itself doesnt open up [03:04:02] that's a bit hard to understand [03:04:34] where is the server running mediawiki? [03:04:42] is it your computer or another computer? [03:05:13] .suppuse in the link in my media wiki i give [[file://linktofile]], it appears as a link in the page but when i click on the link in the media wiki page, it shows in the address bar file//linktofile instead of file://linktofile [03:05:19] The file is not on my computer. [03:05:32] its on an internal network which is accessible to all in the team. [03:05:44] oh, it truncates the colon. that may be a security measure. let me check [03:05:46] Oh, btw thanks a lot for considering to help :) [03:05:57] thank you so much [03:11:40] eagle_: if this is not publicly accessible, you can try adding $wgRawHtml = true; to your LocalSettings.php and then writing out html links like this: file [03:12:09] but if this file is accessible to all users of your network, why not also make it accessible to the web server? [03:12:31] i think that even if the wikilinks were correct, some browsers won't allow you to navigate to a file:// url from a non-local page [03:14:30] yeah. in chrome 22 i get "Not allowed to load local resource: file:///Users/ori/projects/e3/test/tests.html" [03:14:59] hey ori-l, if i use IE will i be able to make it accessible ? [03:16:26] Hey and sorry for troubling you again, but in case this $wgRawHtml doesnt work, how do i make it accessible to the web server? Can you please help me out on this one thing? [03:17:14] ie < 8 would work, but that's a really awful solution [03:18:07] i might be able to help you come up with a better solution if we take a step back and you explain what you're trying to do. what type of file is this? [03:18:23] Can i buzz you on pvt? [03:18:26] if thats okay? [03:18:53] i'd rather you didn't. this way, if i'm not able to help, someone else might. and if it's confidential, i don't want to know it :) [03:19:09] its not confidential. [03:19:13] New patchset: Krinkle; "Revert "AJAXify watchlist editor"" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17163 [03:19:29] Change merged: Krinkle; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17163 [03:19:52] Okay. So basically i am trying to create an intranet for my team .... The intranet would be very usefuly if they could directly access the product reports from the site itself. [03:20:52] they now go to file://potassium/dfsvig/mngt/cardos/RnD_Secure/filename/filename1/WIN32/finalfilename.html [03:20:58] to access the reports. [03:21:10] This is the same place where everyone in the team go to access the reports. [03:21:40] So if i could get this link to open up when been clicked on in the intranet site, it will really help the users instead of copying and pasting the link in the browser [03:22:32] is the machine hosting mediawiki in the same office? can it also access potassium? [03:22:44] Yes. It can [03:23:07] i can access the potassium folder and the intranet from one comp. [03:23:15] and all other users have the same access [03:23:50] okay, so just configure your web server to serve that location [03:24:55] i would be really thankful if you could let me know how to do that. Coz i am kind of new to this. i m sorry if i am asking for too much [03:25:19] i won't walk you through the whole process [03:25:28] but i can give you a pointer [03:25:38] what kind of web server is serving your wiki? apache? [03:25:49] do you know? [03:26:19] Its not on a local server in my comp. I use filezilla to manage the server. The server is online. [03:26:26] so everyone on the intranet can access. [03:26:48] in filezilla, can you see potassium? [03:27:03] No. [03:27:13] * ori-l cries. [03:27:24] Sorry :( [03:27:31] can you use filezilla to upload the reports to the server? [03:27:39] New review: Spage; "Ignore my comments on patch 1 about an error, I was running the tool on its own output ;-). I think ..." [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17000 [03:28:00] Yes. I can but the reports are updated every 1 hour. this might not be possible on a daily basis [03:28:57] New review: Spage; "Patch 1 or patch 3, your call." [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master); V: 1 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17000 [03:28:57] install a web server on potassium [03:29:05] is it running windows? [03:29:15] Yes [03:29:35] use this http://code.google.com/p/mongoose/ [03:29:51] Okay..will do . [03:30:09] this way you'll be able to link to http://potassium:8080/report.html [03:30:11] from your wiki [03:30:17] and that will work from all your office computers [03:30:20] good luck, i g2g. [03:30:21] Just out of curiosity. you said you had a solution which would work if ie<8 right? may i know what that is just in case? [03:30:45] Thank you so much . i hope it works. thanks again for all the help [03:31:36] New patchset: Catrope; "Fix rollback links showing 0 edits on watchlist/recentchanges" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17164 [03:32:02] New review: Catrope; "Was showing "0 edits" on watchlist and recent changes, fixed in https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/1..." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16932 [03:37:29] 03(mod) Confirm drag to new location when the user press Enter - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37086 (10mybugs.mail) [03:37:41] 03(mod) Double load spinner on preview after second time - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/26290 (10mybugs.mail) [03:47:03] New review: Krinkle; "Reverted in 6f6b786d9095dc0487744b6fbeb02e6b4c86a7ff." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9979 [04:02:47] 03(NEW) Parsoid does not handle urlencoded interwiki prefixes correctly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38906 normal; VisualEditor: Parser/Parsoid; (roan.kattouw) [04:08:33] New patchset: Mwjames; "SRF Incoming printer" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17165 [04:13:45] New patchset: Krinkle; "(bug 38151) Implement mw.user.getRights and getGroups" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14333 [04:14:14] New patchset: Mwjames; "SRF Incoming printer" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17165 [04:15:03] New review: Krinkle; "* Rebased" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14333 [04:15:51] 03(FIXED) Add support for getting and caching user rights in javascript - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38151 (10Krinkle) [04:16:10] Change merged: Krinkle; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14333 [04:16:33] Change merged: J; [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17160 [04:24:56] 03(FIXED) Sorting languages in the language switcher - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38740 +comment (10Fiable.biz) [04:26:12] New patchset: J; "add preload="none" to video to reduce load" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17166 [04:27:32] New review: Krinkle; "This change only adds a hook, it doesn't change the hook itself. Removing myself as a reviewer as th..." [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (translatesvg); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14925 [04:29:13] New review: Mdale; "good idea." [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17166 [04:30:48] Change merged: J; [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17166 [04:31:40] New review: Krinkle; "Just some quick notes, haven't tested/reviewed yet." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16848 [04:44:36] 03(mod) missing unicode normalization - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/10099 +comment (10Fiable.biz) [05:00:15] 03(NEW) IP Block query fails with External auth - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38907 normal; MediaWiki: User blocking; (steve) [05:01:00] 03(mod) Enable AFTv5 on ta.wikipedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38774 +comment (10Srikanth Logic) [05:30:59] New patchset: Santhosh; "Minor cleanup" [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17167 [05:31:43] Change merged: Santhosh; [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17167 [05:32:10] Which extensoion needed to give "File move" permission? [05:42:30] Sefid_Par: no extension, it's built in [05:43:41] > movefile | allows renaming pages in the "File" namespace (requires the move right and $wgAllowImageMoving to be true). | 1.14+ [05:43:49] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:User_rights#List_of_permissions [05:51:29] [05:57:22] How can I find out whitch version of mediawiki is installed on a wikipedia? [05:57:48] which version of mediawiki didn't have the "page_restrictions" table? [05:58:44] kanzure: Excuse me. I don't understand. [05:59:13] Sefid_Par: i am trying to recover an old mediawiki installation, except i can't remember which version of mediawiki it was [05:59:24] i have tried 1.11 and 1.12, but neither of these worked [05:59:37] Hey anyone knows any working extensions to work on opening file:// links in media wiki? [05:59:47] right now it works on http:// [05:59:52] which is bizarre, because i recall installing it in 2008, during which mediawiki-1.12 was the latest release [05:59:57] but perhaps i used something really ancient? [06:00:24] Sefid_Par: try looking at Special:Version [06:00:47] kanzure: Excuse me man; I though you were answering my question. [06:00:54] Amgine: Thanks. [06:00:57] Kanzure: you can probably try the same thing. [06:01:03] Amgine: the same what? [06:01:22] Is your mediawiki install operational? [06:01:29] Amgine: no [06:01:32] it doesn't exist [06:01:47] i am recovering some old tables [06:02:25] jeremyb: Thank you. The mediawiki installed is old! [06:02:30] 1.9 was unfortunately popular and un-upgraded. Give it a shot? [06:02:51] Amgine: 1.9 didn't seem to be able to use my mysql tables [06:02:54] Eagle_: have never heard of that. [06:03:03] i also tried its maintenance/update.php script, which didn't seem to do anything properly [06:03:55] (in 1.9.x) [06:04:42] I honestly cannot remember anything about those older versions, kanzure. [06:05:28] me either :) [06:08:56] Thank you Wikipedia "Causing minor changes to images each time they appear will not prevent a computer from recognizing a repeated image as there are robust image comparator functions (e.g., image hashes, color histograms) that are insensitive to many simple image distortions." [06:09:30] You've proven my assumption that a captcha based on Commons images would be worthless [06:10:01] I'm not sure what the obsesion with CAPTCHAs is. [06:10:06] obsesion [06:10:09] obsession [06:11:03] Try a captcha which requests subject identifications, and multiple images. "Choose all images with out-of-focus subjects" [06:11:56] Amgine: Where do 'we' get this data from to verify? [06:11:56] New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Add JavaScript method for beacon tracking" [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17168 [06:12:04] What's the point of the CAPTCHA again? [06:12:26] Brooke: Make sure you're human, I suppose [06:12:45] Do we care whether someone is human or not? [06:13:03] Brooke: to cause a not-inconsiderable complication to automated editing. And yes, we do. [06:13:05] Brooke: I'm rather xenophobic, but I don't know about the rest of the community [06:13:06] Brooke: Bots add huge amounts of spam (ie: most spam doesn't come from humans) and the idea of a CAPTCHA is to make sure that the editor is human [06:13:35] Namtnad: Do you see the disconnect? [06:13:53] Of course [06:14:13] Brooke: No, can you be more explicit? /me learns so much in late-night #mediawiki [06:14:21] It'd be nice to see actual examples of this spamming on the English Wikipedia. [06:14:25] If anyone has any. [06:14:31] But "Is this spam?" is a very tough thing for random developers to figure out how to program [06:14:40] marktraceur: You don't see the disconnect? [06:14:54] Namtnad: They can build better tools, though. [06:14:58] Brooke: Not exactly, no, but maybe I missed the beginning of this conversation? [06:15:23] Marktraceur: Brooke relies on post-edit prevention, rather than pre-edit prevention. [06:15:26] marktraceur: CAPTCHAs test whether you're human, not whether you're spam. [06:15:36] So using them as an anti-spam tool is kind of silly. [06:15:38] Hmm, I see [06:15:50] Amgine: You can block the edits. [06:16:04] Brooke: I suppose it depends on whether that wiki expects "legitimate" bots [06:16:15] Brooke: WP is good at cleaning up spam but I have a wiki I got tired of cleaning up http://www.futurediarywiki.com/wiki/Special:RecentChanges [06:16:18] Brooke: Note: The resources used to process the edit is greater than not allowing the edit to be sent to the server. [06:16:30] The concept of a bot on a site where identity as a human doesn't really exist is rather strange. [06:16:38] You have to look at behavior, who cares who's behind the account? [06:16:55] Who or what. [06:16:57] New patchset: Santhosh; "Undo feature for language selection" [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17066 [06:17:15] Amgine: And? [06:18:09] I know of at least three wikis whose ISP canceled their contracts due to bandwidth consumption as a spam honeypot. [06:18:10] Though it might be a little biased since I do have some stuff in place already to deal with some classes of spambots [06:19:01] Brooke: Are there established libraries or algorithms for determining spamminess? [06:19:09] (that !== CAPTCHA) [06:19:27] Probably. [06:19:48] http://www.futurediarywiki.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/Tylmcyxl0 is interesting. [06:20:19] MarkTraceur: AbuseFilter does pretty much exactly that. [06:21:03] !e AbuseFilter [06:21:03] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:AbuseFilter [06:21:53] werdna-maintained, even! Is this installed on WMF sites anywhere? [06:22:04] Sorry, it is [06:22:25] Oh. On enwiki. [06:22:27] It's installed globally. [06:23:09] lo [06:23:30] So....is there some issue with it that makes CAPTCHA necessary? [06:23:53] The CAPTCHA far pre-dates AbuseFilter. [06:24:17] The question is whether the CAPTCHA serves any purpose nowadays. [06:24:23] I guess. [06:24:44] But that's a separate question from whether better anti-spam tools are needed. [06:24:56] *nod* [06:25:04] * marktraceur steps back, clearly has diverged [06:27:28] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "Forms for SpecialItemByLabel and SpecialItemByTitle" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17169 [06:33:59] 03(mod) VisualEditor: onbeforeunload throws Uncaught TypeError when leaving page from "Read" mode - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38902 +comment (10Krinkle) [06:38:49] marktraceur, Brooke: AbuseFilter can only handle simple patterns... and requires manually writing a filter for each one... there isn't even a central database of these [06:39:01] So yes there is still a use for captchas [06:39:30] Because simple bots are still prowling the internet. And you can't just write a few simple patterns to cover them all. [06:40:39] New patchset: Santhosh; "Undo feature for language selection" [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17066 [06:41:51] Proper "Is this spam?" handling would require something like a wiki version of Akismet. But we have a valid adversion to services and no-one's come forward as someone who actually understands this area (which is related to AI) [06:43:18] "from within function "Revision::fetchRow". MySQL returned error "1054: Unknown column 'rev_len' in 'field list' (localhost)"" [06:56:14] Brooke: Also, this is the current result of post-register rather than pre-register spam prevention [06:56:50] We probably need a number of code improvements to deal with that [07:01:59] Yes. [07:06:26] Brooke: Another one of our issues is we actually DO have tools that deal with the "Is this spam?" question... [07:06:34] Or rather "Is this vandalism?" [07:06:46] What do you mean? [07:07:00] Rather, I mean that Wikipedia does [07:07:13] You're saying Wikipedia has anti-vandalism tools? [07:07:22] Wikipedia has some great people writing anti-spam bots. Like ClueBot NG [07:07:32] Oh, you're talking about heuristics? [07:07:35] And they do use the machine-learning, etc... we should be using [07:07:55] But those aren't something you can setup for random wikis [07:08:21] I don't even know where the source is... and this kind of thing doesn't work very well on a small wiki with few edits [07:08:35] Because you don't have enough non-spam to balance out the dataaset [07:08:55] So Wikipedia doesn't have the spam issue [07:09:02] Since it has people writing bots [07:09:25] And WP's edit speed is so fast that whether spam is reverted or rejected doesn't matter [07:09:37] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "Forms for SpecialItemByLabel and SpecialItemByTitle" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17169 [07:09:41] While on a small wiki you don't want the RC filling up [07:10:27] And as a result we do have people who understand this area... but they are writing things that only help Wikipedia and don't help any other MediaWiki install. [07:14:20] Brooke: And even after we figure out a bunch of ideas and figure out what we 'could' do... we get right back to our core problem. These are large development projects. Few people have the knowledge and time to write them. [07:15:11] There are other ways of addressing the problem besides large projects. [07:15:23] That seems to be your answer to any problem. ;-) [07:17:27] I actually have an idea how to write an anti-spam extension in this category... but I don't have the time, resources, or machine-learning knowledge [07:22:23] 03(NEW) "Visited" status does not update until watchlist page is refreshed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38908 normal; MediaWiki: Watchlist; (yyairrand) [07:31:32] New review: John Erling Blad; "There will be several optional fields and it could be better to use a common way to ask for them." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17074 [07:43:28] 03(mod) "review" action not displaying in the logs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37890 +comment (10Fabrice Florin) [07:51:07] 03(NEW) Typo shows Username in log - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38909 normal; MediaWiki: Logging; (carchaias) [07:53:07] 03(mod) Typo shows Username in log - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38909 (10carchaias) [07:53:56] 03(mod) Typo shows Username and Password in log - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38909 (10carchaias) [08:04:40] where's deployment.wmflabs.org now? [08:04:41] New patchset: Amire80; "(bug 30600) Simple URL validation based on $wgUrlProtocols" [mediawiki/extensions/Interwiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17170 [08:10:28] 03(ASSIGNED) Interwiki extension's "prefix" field doesn't validate input - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30599 (10Amir E. Aharoni) [08:12:49] 03(NEW) alt for an image with value of '0' is removed from output - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38910 trivial; MediaWiki: User interface; (hartman) [08:21:09] Reedy: sgs? [08:22:50] 03(FIXED) GlobalUsage should use protocol-relative links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31644 +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [08:24:43] New patchset: Nikerabbit; "Namespace gender aliases for Lithuanian (lt)" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17134 [08:29:13] 03(mod) Image alt value '0' should not be removed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38910 trivial->minor; summary (10Krinkle) [08:29:31] 03(mod) Image alt value '0' should not be removed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38910 +easy +need-parsertest (10Krinkle) [08:30:49] New review: Siebrand; "Thanks for the update Niklas, and the verification, Sam. I reviewed at an airport from my phone, and..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17134 [08:30:50] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17134 [08:33:20] morn [08:41:50] 03(mod) Put the shorturl in a better place - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38863 +comment (10Arun Ganesh) [08:50:43] 03(mod) ShortUrl does not work on non wikipedia projects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38905 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [08:51:58] Nikerabbit: language code https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?p=mediawiki/core.git;a=blob;f=languages/messages/MessagesSgs.php;h=4ecc4df360cddc7195131615aeb3a0fde71fe407;hb=HEAD [08:52:05] $fallback = 'lt'; [08:52:36] New patchset: Santhosh; "Allow typo in search key" [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17171 [08:59:08] 03(FIXED) CSV and DSV formats gives PHP fatal error (1.8 alpha) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38886 (10Leonard Wallentin) [09:17:29] 03(FIXED) Clean 'x' icon should return focus to the search box - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38849 +comment (10Santhosh Thottingal) [09:20:05] 03(NEW) [Tablesorter] Headers with rowspan should be considered for all rows - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38911 enhancement; MediaWiki: JavaScript; (listenleser) [09:24:25] Change merged: Nikerabbit; [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaIncubator] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17156 [09:33:18] 03(NEW) Directionality of text in the bubble on the map is assigned according to the phone's locale - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38912 normal; Wikipedia App: Near by; (amir.aharoni) [09:33:18] 03(mod) Tracking bug for RTL bugs in the Wikimedia Mobile Android app - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34166 (10Amir E. Aharoni) [09:33:57] New review: Daniel Werner; "I believe sendCacheControl() does nothing with the actual output, right? So the hook even allows for..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14303 [09:35:45] 03(NEW) Unneeded characters appear in the bubble on the map - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38913 normal; Wikipedia App: Near by; (amir.aharoni) [09:39:44] 03(mod) Unneeded characters appear in the bubble on the map - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38913 +comment (10Amir E. Aharoni) [09:41:07] 03(mod) Unneeded characters appear in the bubble on the map - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38913 +comment (10Amir E. Aharoni) [09:49:20] Change merged: Nikerabbit; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (translatesvg) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14925 [10:04:31] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "Minor changes to how whitspace are squashed and strings cleansed for erroneous chars" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17172 [10:04:56] New patchset: Amire80; "(bug 30600) Simple URL validation based on $wgUrlProtocols" [mediawiki/extensions/Interwiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17170 [10:05:53] 03(ASSIGNED) Interwiki extension's "URL" field doesn't validate input - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30600 +comment (10Amir E. Aharoni) [10:06:57] New patchset: Nikerabbit; "Allow typo in search key" [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17171 [10:13:24] 03(mod) Tidy occasionally isn't executed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38273 +comment (10Michael M.) [10:15:44] 03(mod) Tidy occasionally isn't executed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38273 +comment (10Michael M.) [10:22:41] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "Seems sane, but someone with more insight into the implications of skin changes should have a look...." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17073 [10:24:23] Hallo. Does anybody know anything about the HTML tidy configuration on WMF servers? I'd love to see https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31817 resolved. [10:30:42] 03(mod) The tag is sanitized - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31817 +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [10:30:53] aharoni: tidy seems logical cause yes. [10:31:11] Thanks. Who can fix it? [10:31:26] Is it managed with the other server config files? [10:31:34] Or does it have to be fixed upstream? [10:32:16] lemme check. i think we can whitelist it somehow... [10:32:49] tidy needs to be upgraded [10:34:40] bingo. [10:34:49] we can add "new-inline-tags: bdi" into the config [10:34:51] hmph [10:35:07] I hate how gerrit "loses" all comments and reviews then new patchset is updated [10:35:17] i suppose the config is somewhere in the puppet git repo [10:36:25] 03(mod) The tag is sanitized - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31817 +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [10:44:09] or wait, is puppet config still not setup for git review other than ops staff ? [10:44:40] your question doesn't make any sense to me [10:48:03] ah, it's in the mediawiki repo actually [10:49:03] New patchset: Hashar; "autoloader entry for UserNotLoggedIn class" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17173 [10:49:38] New review: Hashar; "> What about AutoLoader entry for new class?" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12578 [10:51:03] New patchset: TheDJ; "(bug 31817) Teach Tidy about the HTML5 inline tag bdi." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17174 [10:51:56] aharoni: there you go :D [10:53:04] that thing is missing a couple more html5 elements btw. [10:54:15] New patchset: Hashar; "(bug 37830) new $wgRequirePasswordforEmailChange" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12604 [10:55:45] New patchset: Hashar; "(bug 37830) new $wgRequirePasswordforEmailChange" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12604 [10:57:00] New review: Hashar; "Patchset 7 : make commit message to use one line summary" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12604 [10:57:01] Change merged: Hashar; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12604 [10:58:06] 03(mod) The tag is sanitized - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31817 +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [10:58:30] thank you, thedj[work] [11:05:11] 03(mod) Fix usage of tidy to work cleanly with html5 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31871 +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [11:05:42] New patchset: Raimond Spekking; "Alias file was deleted per https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/13308/" [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17175 [11:05:57] New review: Nikerabbit; "Enough of waiting." [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7361 [11:06:29] thedj[work]: try /exts/tidy/ for the wmf one iirc [11:06:51] Change merged: Nikerabbit; [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17175 [11:12:04] p858snake|l: in which repo ? [11:12:19] extentions [11:12:36] i don't see it..... [11:12:48] i know it was there in the past, but now i can't find it. [11:12:57] not on svn and not on gerrit [11:12:59] hmm maybe they don't use it anymore [11:15:09] Change merged: Nikerabbit; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17173 [11:15:10] reedy removed it feb 2011 http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/81634 [11:19:23] New review: Hashar; "Shipping the whole Language Code whenever we load Language is a blocker to me. That makes MediaWiki ..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11829 [11:30:36] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "bug 38569: make sitelink URLs optional in API" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17074 [11:32:38] New patchset: Amire80; "Making the hints under the lists rtl-friendly." [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7361 [11:32:54] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/LanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16266 [11:34:04] New review: Amire80; "Rebased." [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7361 [11:34:39] Change merged: Nikerabbit; [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7361 [11:34:51] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/WebFonts] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16250 [11:40:29] 03(mod) In Cologne Blue the tools using "mw-js-message" break formatting - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38794 +comment (10mabdul) [11:43:37] New patchset: SPQRobin; "(bug 31243) DoubleWiki view has bug in RTL wikis direction" [mediawiki/extensions/DoubleWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15637 [11:46:14] 03(FIXED) Article Feedback - Oversight Requests are not being emailed to oversighters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38253 (10Matthias Mullie) [11:46:19] 03(FIXED) My Contributions - Critical flood of slow queries that is causing a DB overload on en-wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38813 (10Matthias Mullie) [11:49:17] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "bug 38569: make sitelink URLs optional in API" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17074 [11:54:15] 14(INVALID) Add anti-aliasing to MathJax - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38791 +comment (10matanya) [12:14:34] does mediawiki have a public git repo [12:14:40] i can use for building a chef recipe [12:16:04] New patchset: Aude; "add namespaces in the wikibase client" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16749 [12:19:19] New review: cneubauer; "Sorry for the delay. Looks fine. I'm going to submit the extension to TW as well so it gets more i18n." [mediawiki/extensions/PdfExport] (master); V: 0 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16923 [12:20:09] 03(NEW) Query further results not rendering links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38914 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; (mitchell_neill) [12:22:26] 03(mod) Whitespace between syntax of table or heading and percent sign is converted to a non-breaking space - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38797 +comment (10Fomafix) [12:23:19] New patchset: Hashar; "experimental eval (really)" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12598 [12:39:44] 03(mod) #set broken for multiple property values (1.8 alpha) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36309 +comment (10Jaider Andrade Ferreira) [13:02:17] New patchset: Matthias Mullie; "Refqctor bucketing code" [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17177 [13:02:26] New patchset: Mwjames; "SRF ListWidget printer" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17178 [13:06:54] New patchset: Hashar; "experimental eval (really)" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12598 [13:08:30] hello. is there a way I could render math in title pages? [13:08:52] for example if I write [[number $n$]] mediawiki won't consider it as an internal link [13:10:37] New review: Mwjames; "For history purpose, (bug 37721) which points to the old remote branch commit." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17178 [13:11:37] New patchset: Liangent; "(bug 24521) Move hard coded "code error!" to messages" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17179 [13:11:59] 03(ASSIGNED) "code error!" shouldn't be hard coded - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24521 +comment (10Liangent) [13:24:41] !logo [13:24:41] The logo that appears in the top left of each page is from $wgLogo in LocalSettings.php. To change this you change the value of $wgLogo to point to the URL of your own logo. See . Be sure $wgLogo is set to an absolute path, starting with "/" (or a protocol "http:"/"https:"). Using pretty URLs a relative path will behave oddly. 135x135 pixels [13:27:03] why cant I get my logo to appear on my site :( [13:28:10] 03(mod) Create Special:MostInterwikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22749 +patch-need-review (10matanya) [13:29:11] Betacommand, link? [13:29:56] 03(mod) "code error!" shouldn't be hard coded - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24521 +patch-need-review (10matanya) [13:30:01] New review: Amire80; "The tooltip should be shown for at least a little longer after language change." [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17066 [13:30:16] Betacommand: does the direct link to it work? (== are you sure it is accessible?) [13:30:56] Platonides: I figured it out [13:31:32] ok [13:31:33] 14(WFM) WikiEditor Layout broken in Opera - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/25724 +comment (10matanya) [13:31:50] New patchset: Hashar; "experimental eval (really)" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12598 [13:32:08] Hashar, we're in August! [13:32:14] oreally? [13:32:23] yep, not April :) [13:32:49] * Platonides actually looks at it [13:32:57] Platonides: we are. but you don't know where he is... [13:33:08] how's that difference to maintenance/eval.php ? [13:34:00] well, I guess he could claim to be in Thermidor [13:34:06] that would still not be April [13:34:14] Platonides: that is kind of a router interface [13:34:21] so you could do stuff like: show namespace all [13:34:33] or set namespace 2 subpages enabled [13:34:50] would be just some show commands [13:34:56] I find it easier to use than plain PHP [13:34:56] do we need that? :/ [13:35:02] unlikely [13:35:09] that is a side project I am handling late at night :-) [13:35:14] New patchset: Mwjames; "Add zoom icon to indicate gallery overlay (minor)" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17180 [13:37:03] <^demon> hashar: Setting that variable would just be for a given session, right? It wouldn't try to do anything crazy like write to LocalSettings... [13:37:27] ^demon: well maybe one day it could be used to interface with the site config rewrite :-) [13:37:35] I have no plan to make it able to write anything for now [13:37:43] <^demon> Ok, for now is good. [13:37:43] just a generic helper [13:38:37] wikitrunk> show namespace 2 [13:38:37] 2 - User [13:38:44] wikitrunk> show title text User:Hashar [13:38:44] Utilisateur:Hashar [13:39:28] <^demon> I'm still not sure what problem we're solving here. But hey, have fun :) [13:39:49] that is the main point :) [13:39:56] having fun ;) [13:40:07] maybe I will have something working by next summer [13:40:26] + it let me learn about the reflection stuff ! [13:42:17] what is the most optimal way to display code on mediawiki? [13:42:26] except 
 of course
[13:42:53] 	 !google mediawiki syntax highlight
[13:42:53] 	 https://www.google.com/search?q=mediawiki
[13:42:56] 	 pfff
[13:42:58] 	 dumb bot
[13:43:12] 	 petan: ^^^^^     !google  only look for the first arg :/
[13:43:26] 	 azi: on wikipedia we use http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SyntaxHighlight_GeSHi
[13:43:39] 	 which need the third party application GeSHI
[13:44:13] 	 !thisbotisnotstupid is $1 $2 $3 $4
[13:44:13] 	 Key was added
[13:44:19] 	 !this a b c d
[13:44:19] 	 There are multiple keys, refine your input: this_is_intentionally_null, thisbotisnotstupid, 
[13:44:28] 	 !thisbotisnotstupid a b c d
[13:44:28] 	 a b c d
[13:44:32] 	 hashar ^
[13:44:38] 	 space is a parameter separator
[13:45:06] 	 !google mediawiki+syntax+highlight
[13:45:06] 	 https://www.google.com/search?q=mediawiki+syntax+highlight
[13:45:21] 	 !google is htps://www.google.com/search?q=$1+$2+$3+$4+$5+$6+$7+$8+$9
[13:45:22] 	 This key already exist - remove it, if you want to change it
[13:45:27] 	 03(mod) Merge the Wikidata ContentHandler branch - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38622  +comment (10Tim Starling)
[13:45:28] 	 !del google
[13:45:28] 	 Deleting users is very messy and not recommended, because this breaks referential integrity in the database (they appear in many different tables like users, edit histories, recentchanges, preferences, etc). A safe solution is to block the users, and possibly rename them with .  You can also try 
[13:45:28] 	 XD
[13:45:29] <^demon>	 azi: The third party library is already bundled in the extension when you download it, so you don't really have to install anything extra.
[13:45:36] 	 that's not gonna work
[13:45:46] 	 !remove google
[13:45:46] 	 There is no such key, you probably want to try: !?>, !adminsettings, !emailconfirmed, !hidetabs, !oversight, !tabs, !userapproval, !webrequest, 
[13:45:47] 	 it's !google del btw
[13:45:54] 	 !google del
[13:45:54] 	 Successfully removed google
[13:45:56] 	 !google is htps://www.google.com/search?q=$1+$2+$3+$4+$5+$6+$7+$8+$9
[13:45:56] 	 Key was added
[13:46:01] 	 !google syntax highlight
[13:46:01] 	 htps://www.google.com/search?q=syntax+highlight+$3+$4+$5+$6+$7+$8+$9
[13:46:02] 	 !google test
[13:46:02] 	 htps://www.google.com/search?q=test+$2+$3+$4+$5+$6+$7+$8+$9
[13:46:05] 	 ahahah
[13:46:05] 	 New patchset: Matthias Mullie; "Bug 38440 - Argument 1 passed to ArticleFeedbackv5Render::getActivityCount() must be an instance of stdClass" [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17181
[13:46:07] 	 I told u
[13:46:11] 	 sorry for the spam :-]
[13:46:17] 	 !google del
[13:46:18] 	 Successfully removed google
[13:46:20] 	 thanks hashar & ^demon 
[13:46:23] 	 just use + as a separator :P
[13:46:27] 	 !google is https://www.google.de/search?q=$1
[13:46:27] 	 Key was added
[13:46:30] 	 google doesn't use spaces either
[13:46:36] 	 03(mod) Argument 1 passed to ArticleFeedbackv5Render::getActivityCount() must be an instance of stdClass - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38440  +comment (10Matthias Mullie)
[13:46:54] 	 petan: maybe get something like  $@  to pass all args
[13:47:06] 	 that would be wrong as well
[13:47:10] 	 google doesn't use spaces
[13:47:11] 	 $e@
[13:47:20] 	 03(mod) Argument 1 passed to ArticleFeedbackv5Render::getActivityCount() must be an instance of stdClass - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38440   +aftv5-1.5 (10Matthias Mullie)
[13:47:21] 	 03(mod) Argument 1 passed to ArticleFeedbackv5Render::grayMask() must be an array, null given - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38359   +aftv5-1.5 (10Matthias Mullie)
[13:47:28] 	 it would need to be use all parameters and replace spaces with +'ses
[13:47:57] 	 that is too complicated for such a simple function, if you really want to have this functionality I would need to introduce new command like @google
[13:48:28] 	 petan: well something like bash:  ${$@/ /+}
[13:48:41] 	 hashar heh
[13:48:47] 	 it's open source, so fix it
[13:48:54] 	 @help
[13:48:54] 	 Type @commands for list of commands. This bot is running http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WM-Bot version wikimedia bot v. 1.8.2.4 source code licensed under GPL and located at https://github.com/benapetr/wikimedia-bot
[13:48:59] 	 wm-bot apparently doesn't do the urlencoding stuff that the old mwbot did
[13:49:12] 	 Skizzerz I don't think so
[13:49:20] 	 Skizzerz it does a lot of url encoding, but where?
[13:49:23] 	 in dumps?
[13:49:24] 	 or logs?
[13:49:39] 	 old mwbot could let you specify a param like `e1 or `e2
[13:49:50] 	 to urlencode that param before output
[13:49:51] 	 this one let you specify $1 or $2
[13:49:59] 	 eh
[13:50:04] 	 ok that's easy to implement
[13:50:20] 	 it could be like $url1
[13:50:37] 	 perhaps
[13:50:40] 	 or a different sigil
[13:50:47] 	 but I would prefer something that doesn't conflict
[13:51:02] 	 %1 maybe?
[13:51:05] 	 hm
[13:51:11] 	 although
[13:51:12] 	 I don't know
[13:51:18] 	 %1 is common part of sentence
[13:51:19] 	 that would mess with URLs that use percent encoding
[13:51:25] 	 yes
[13:51:48] 	 I would rather use something like ~1 or that
[13:52:08] 	 or `
[13:52:11] 	 nobody uses backtick :P
[13:52:14] 	 k
[13:52:26] 	 although I'm not 100% sure how accessible that is on all keyboard layouts
[13:52:27] 	 03(mod) Feedback text overlaps with personal bar on Tamil Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34681   +design (10Srikanth Logic)
[13:52:43] 	 but I will use it with some extra word
[13:52:50] 	 like `url
[13:52:59] 	 because ` is a common symbol as well
[13:53:18] 	 it's part of bourne shell syntax
[13:53:24] 	 well, yes
[13:53:32] 	 I think we can come up with a conflict for every symbol
[13:53:36] 	 ~ is used for signatures ;)
[13:53:41] 	 and home directory
[13:57:10] 	 petan, $1
[13:57:17] 	 03(mod) Argument 1 passed to ArticleFeedbackv5Render::grayMask() must be an array, null given - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38359  +comment (10Matthias Mullie)
[13:57:20] 	 huh
[13:57:25] 	 Platonides what
[13:57:27] 	 so no changes needed :)
[13:58:10] 	 03(mod) Data Item DOM for description & aliases should be integrated into existing DOM properly (8) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38145  summary (10denny vrandecic)
[14:04:01] 	 03(mod) Merge the Wikidata ContentHandler branch - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38622  +comment (10Daniel Kinzler)
[14:04:05] 	 @help
[14:04:05] 	 Type @commands for list of commands. This bot is running http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WM-Bot version wikimedia bot v. 1.8.2.4 source code licensed under GPL and located at https://github.com/benapetr/wikimedia-bot
[14:04:15] 	 @help
[14:04:16] 	 Type @commands for list of commands. This bot is running http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WM-Bot version wikimedia bot v. 1.8.2.6 source code licensed under GPL and located at https://github.com/benapetr/wikimedia-bot
[14:04:19] 	 New patchset: Raimond Spekking; "Moved 'StickToThatLanguage' extension" [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17182
[14:04:19] 	 updated :)
[14:04:28] 	 !test is $*
[14:04:29] 	 This key already exist - remove it, if you want to change it
[14:04:33] 	 !test2 is $*
[14:04:33] 	 Key was added
[14:04:40] 	 !test2 hashar likes to use spaces
[14:04:40] 	 hasharlikestousespaces
[14:04:44] 	 aha
[14:04:45] 	 :)
[14:04:49] 	 Change merged: Raimond Spekking; [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17182
[14:04:58] 	 another try
[14:05:14] <^demon>	 It would be nice if the bot would let you do that from /msg.
[14:05:54] 	 !test2 hashar likes to use spaces
[14:05:54] 	  hashar likes to use spaces
[14:06:00] 	 ^demon why?
[14:06:05] 	 that wouldn't bother everyone in channel
[14:06:13] 	 and wouldn't be so much fun
[14:06:52] 	 !google
[14:06:52] 	 https://www.google.de/search?q=$1
[14:06:54] 	 !google del
[14:06:54] 	 Successfully removed google
[14:07:18] 	 !google is http://google.com/search?q=$url_encoded_*
[14:07:19] 	 Key was added
[14:07:29] 	 !google <3
[14:07:29] 	 http://google.com/search?q=+%3c3
[14:07:37] 	 !google syntax highlight
[14:07:38] 	 http://google.com/search?q=+syntax+highlight
[14:07:44] 	 :/
[14:07:46] 	 one more fix
[14:07:48] 	 not too bad :)
[14:08:04] 	 !g foo
[14:08:04] 	 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#q,foo,n,z
[14:08:11] 	 ah, that's gerrit
[14:08:16] 	 !gg foo
[14:08:16] 	 There is no such key, you probably want to try: !500, !anonnotice, !bellthecat, !blank, !debug, !exclamation, !feeds, !flaggedrevs, !iis, !ldapdebug, !moderation, !ogg, !suggest, !topic, !webinspector, 
[14:08:26] 	 petan: add gg pls for google
[14:08:27] 	 petan: you could also make the bot to listen to PRIVMSG.  Aka:   PRIVMSG wm-bot help
[14:08:34] <^demon>	 Stupid bot.
[14:08:35] 	 so we can query the bot in a private session
[14:08:51] 	 hashar and which db it should be attached to?>
[14:09:16] 	 ^demon you just removed the only purpose of this channel
[14:09:21] 	 now we can close it
[14:09:29] 	 petan: is there one db per channel?  Maybe use a shared one instead
[14:09:35] 	 03(NEW) "mark as reviewed" not appearing? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38915 normal; MediaWiki extensions: PageTriage; (okeyes)
[14:09:38] 	 indeed not going to work :/
[14:09:39] 	 hashar there is borh
[14:09:43] 	 both
[14:09:45] 	 03(mod) "mark as reviewed" not appearing? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38915  +comment (10Oliver Keyes)
[14:09:49] 	 you can either set up a shared db, or single
[14:09:57] 	 this db is shared
[14:10:04] 	 with #wikimedia-tech and #wikimedia-dev :P
[14:10:32] 	 03(mod) "mark as reviewed" not appearing? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38915  +comment (10Oliver Keyes)
[14:13:16] <^demon>	 Ok, bot's been in timeout long enough. Now, is everyone going to stop treating it like it's a toy?
[14:13:30] <^demon>	 Bots are serious business :)
[14:15:18] 	 !google ^demon
[14:15:18] 	 http://google.com/search?q=%5edemon
[14:15:21] 	 :P
[14:15:24] 	 it works!
[14:15:39] 	 let's see what it find
[14:15:49] <^demon>	 Maybe I should've just quieted you ;-)
[14:15:55] 	 :x
[14:17:22] * Namtnad  kicks wm-bot
[14:17:36] 	 ^_^ Right... I guess this one *is* serious...
[14:28:15] 	 kanzure: ping
[14:31:02] 	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Add touched field so people dont get old versions from the cache" [mediawiki/extensions/EducationProgram] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17183
[14:31:02] 	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Replaced the Course and Institution namespace with a single Education Program namespace." [mediawiki/extensions/EducationProgram] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17079
[14:35:00] 	 New patchset: Hashar; "memcached: better error messaging" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16668
[14:35:59] 	 New patchset: Mwjames; "Add zoom icon to indicate gallery overlay (minor)" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17180
[14:37:00] 	 New review: Hashar; "The root cause was trying to get socket metadata of a file pointer which is what the lib uses intern..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16668
[14:37:11] 	 03(mod) change 15612 to memcached log has issues - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38689  +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[14:45:02] 	 03(mod) [Regression] Thumbnail cache should be invalidated on re-upload - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31680  +comment (10TMg)
[14:46:03] 	 03(mod) Extensions awaiting code review to be deployed on Wikimedia wikis (Tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31235  summary (10matanya)
[14:51:54] 	 New patchset: Raimond Spekking; "Update optional key per https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/16850/1/TimedMediaHandler.i18n.php,unified" [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17184
[14:52:16] 	 Change merged: Raimond Spekking; [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17184
[14:52:41] 	 Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17180
[14:53:32] 	 03(mod) Returning URLs for sitelinks should be optional - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38569   +patch-need-review (10matanya)
[15:00:53] 	 03(NEW) Oracle support (Tracking - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38916 normal; MediaWiki: Database; (matanya.moses)
[15:00:54] 	 03(mod) Tracking bug (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/2007  (10matanya)
[15:02:38] 	 03(mod) Oracle support (Tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38916  summary (10matanya)
[15:02:39] 	 03(mod) After updating from an old version, some revisions are lost (Oracle) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/26105  (10matanya)
[15:02:40] 	 03(mod) Oracle Schema: ON DELETE SET NULL with several tables bring error on deletes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31241  (10matanya)
[15:02:41] 	 03(mod) test special pages SQL queries against supported Proprietary DBs (Oracle, MSSQL, DB2) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33290  (10matanya)
[15:02:42] 	 03(mod) Mediawiki Upload Error and Search not working in Oracle - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36726  (10matanya)
[15:02:42] 	 03(mod) Install a new MediaWiki with Oracle 11g as Backend: Unable to complete the process - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38411  (10matanya)
[15:03:11] 	 03(mod) Oracle support (Tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38916  (10matanya)
[15:04:22] 	 03(mod) Oracle support (Tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38916  (10matanya)
[15:04:22] 	 03(mod) importDump.php stopped after several hours in cause of an DB error (Oracle) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38793  (10matanya)
[15:05:48] 	 New patchset: Mwjames; "SRF Incoming printer" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17165
[15:08:16] 	 03(mod) Cannot filter on ICS 4.0.4 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38896  (10matanya)
[15:11:43] 	 New patchset: Raimond Spekking; "Add optional key per https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/9984/3/UploadWizard.i18n.php,unified" [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17185
[15:13:00] 	 Change merged: Raimond Spekking; [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17185
[15:16:33] 	 ^demon: Gerrit search is broken?
[15:16:33] 	 03(mod) IP Block query fails with External auth - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38907   +postgresql; +comment (10matanya)
[15:16:47] 	 Or Reedy?
[15:17:21] 	 I'm getting a "Search disabled" error.
[15:17:32] 	 At .
[15:17:32] <^demon>	 Ugh.
[15:17:43] <^demon>	 Not for logged in users. Lemme take a look
[15:18:15] <^demon>	 Fixed.
[15:18:25] 	 Thanks. :-)
[15:18:41] <^demon>	 You're welcome. Thanks for yelling about it, that was bad.
[15:19:56] <^demon>	 I raised the query limit for logged in users to 5000 yesterday, but apparently that override the defaults, setting anons to 0 :(
[15:20:11] <^demon>	 Set anons back to 500, which was their default.
[15:20:39] 	 03(mod) "mark as reviewed" button gets pushed out of the way by templates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38915  normal->trivial; summary (10matanya)
[15:20:55] <^demon>	 I'll note that in BZ, so it doesn't happen again.
[15:22:23] 	 03(mod) Increase gerrit query limit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38768  +comment (10Chad H.)
[15:24:58] 	 Silly Gerrit.
[15:28:00] 	 03(mod) Connect repository and client in our test systems - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38172  (10abraham.taherivand)
[15:29:17] 	 New patchset: Helder.wiki; "Reduced repetition of code on getGroups and getRights by creating a common function getUserGroupsOrRights which is called by both." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17186
[15:29:57] 	 New patchset: Raimond Spekking; "Update key to ignore per https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/16541/2/MobileFrontend.i18n.php,unified" [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17187
[15:30:22] 	 Change merged: Raimond Spekking; [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17187
[15:30:44] 	 New review: Helder.wiki; "I tried to simplify this on" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14333
[15:32:56] 	 New patchset: Jens Ohlig; "Undo for items [DO NOT MERGE]" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17057
[15:33:31] 	 grr, still can't get nested groups working
[15:34:31] 	 03(NEW) Wikimedia instances and projects pagination is funky - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38917 normal; Wikimedia Labs: General; (b)
[15:35:04] 	 03(mod) Wikimedia Labs instances and projects pagination is funky - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38917  summary (10MZMcBride)
[15:37:29] 	 03(mod) Refactor interlang & interwiki code (13) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38705  +comment (10Daniel Kinzler)
[15:43:21] 	 it can see that I am member of the nested group in the returned groups entry in the log, but then it just doesn't "find it" to use it
[15:43:24] 	 it's weird
[15:44:12] 	 03(NEW) No clear pathway to create a Wikimedia Labs account - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38918 normal; Wikimedia Labs: General; (b)
[15:45:00] 	 it never "enters" the module for searching nested groups
[15:45:57] 	 New review: Reedy; "Great minds apparently think alike - In https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38898#c1 I de..." [mediawiki/extensions/CentralAuth] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/6911
[15:45:58] 	 Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions/CentralAuth] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/6911
[15:46:21] 	 03(FIXED) Notices on Special:GlobalUsers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38898  +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[15:46:40] 	 New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "bug 38569: make sitelink URLs optional in API" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17074
[15:47:58] 	 Change abandoned: MarkAHershberger; "somehow got committed as a new commit rather then an ammendment" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14766
[15:48:04] 	 anybody got any thoughts? this is the only issue that is blocking me
[15:51:41] 	 03(mod) Enable SubPageList3 on cswiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38903  normal->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[15:55:01] 	 New patchset: Raimond Spekking; "Optional/ignore keys per https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/16773/2/TranslateSvg.i18n.php,unified" [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17188
[15:55:21] 	 here is my config : http://pastebin.com/4LuQnMzD
[15:55:36] 	 Change merged: Raimond Spekking; [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17188
[15:55:37] 	 everything works for restricting a single group, but, meh, nesting ain't workin :(
[15:55:39] 	 New review: Reedy; "QQQ?" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17179
[16:02:21] 	 sygnous|mbpr: nested groups?... mediawiki has nested user groups?
[16:02:31] 	 03(NEW) "page_is_redirect" wrong on Indonesian (and probably other non-English) wiki dumps. Doesn't recognize localization of "#REDIRECT" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38919 normal; Datasets: General/Unknown; (bknliem)
[16:03:47] 	 ldap
[16:04:04] 	 New review: Subramanya Sastry; "Consider rewriting the if-condition structure." [mediawiki/extensions/Parsoid] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17145
[16:06:55] 	 Raymond_: Online?
[16:15:39] 	 03(mod) Unneeded characters appear in the bubble on the map - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38913  +comment (10Maarten Dammers)
[16:18:03] 	 03(mod) Unneeded characters appear in the bubble on the map - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38913  +comment (10Amir E. Aharoni)
[16:19:31] 	 !svn
[16:19:31] 	 Subversion is a version control software that allows users to download the very latest version of a branch without having to wait for someone to get around to packaging it. Advantages to using Subversion include the latest version, vastly simplified updating, the ability to roll back an upgrade, the ability to create and submit patches. See http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Subversion for more information.
[16:20:22] <^demon>	 That should probably be reworded.
[16:21:36] 	 anyone know the guide to convert a svn checkout to git ?
[16:24:13] 	 New patchset: J; "move sql to TimedMediaHandler.sql, cleanup timestamps" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17190
[16:25:14] 	 03(mod) Query further results not rendering links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38914  +comment (10Neill Mitchell)
[16:30:21] 	 03(mod) ShortUrl does not work on non wikipedia projects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38905  +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[16:30:38] 	 The the latest version of mediawiki is 1.19.1; but What are the versions here: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:User_rights#List_of_permissions
[16:31:50] 	 New patchset: Hashar; "(bug 38492) make variables documented" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17192
[16:31:57] 	 03(NEW) Boolean properties are dropped when SMW_refreshData.php is run - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38920 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; (mitchell_neill)
[16:32:30] 	 03(ASSIGNED) doxygen: workaround faulty @var - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38492  +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[16:39:13] 	 03(mod) Unneeded characters appear in the bubble on the map - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38913  +comment (10Maarten Dammers)
[16:39:51] 	 03(FIXED) new deployment-bastion forbid ssh access - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38846  +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[16:40:25] 	 04(REOPENED) new deployment-bastion forbid ssh access - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38846  +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[16:40:26] 	 Daniel_WMDE: the LDAP extension does nested groups... supposedly
[16:40:46] 	 hm... ok, never heard about it
[16:40:53] 	 good to jknow, i guess ;)
[16:41:56] 	 03(mod) Can't scroll wide tables left to right - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36682  +comment (10Jon)
[16:42:07] 	 New review: Aaron Schulz; "Why do we need the count feature at all? Can it just be removed from core?" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17164
[16:44:24] 	 03(NEW) Show current user location on map - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38921 normal; WikiLoves Monuments Mobile: Maps; (jrobson)
[16:44:59] 	 New patchset: MarkTraceur; "Add mw.Time" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16848
[16:46:07] 	 03(mod) Design JavaScript API for item (5) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38174  +comment (10Daniel Werner)
[16:46:07] 	 14(DUP) Improving JavaScript structures for widget developers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37774  +comment (10Daniel Werner)
[16:46:29] 	 03(NEW) Monument details - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38922 normal; WikiLoves Monuments Mobile: Browse; (jrobson)
[16:48:45] 	 03(NEW) Listing monuments in campaign doesn't take my location into account - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38923 normal; WikiLoves Monuments Mobile: Browse; (jrobson)
[16:49:09] 	 New review: MarkTraceur; "Parent5446, could you explain what you changed in your patchset? It's not evident because you also r..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16848
[16:50:13] 	 New patchset: Liangent; "(bug 24521) Move hard coded "code error!" to messages" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17179
[16:50:58] 	 03(NEW) Cannot sort by distance on campaign page unless have previously clicked use my location - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38924 normal; WikiLoves Monuments Mobile: Browse; (jrobson)
[16:51:32] 	 03(FIXED) Default zoom level for 'Use my current location' is too zoomed out - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38741  (10Jon)
[16:52:10] 	 Change merged: Ori.livneh; [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17168
[16:53:18] 	 New patchset: Liangent; "(bug 24521) Move hard coded "code error!" to messages" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17179
[16:55:36] 	 I just did a trunk checkout and got 1.19 alpha, what happened to 1.20 ?
[16:56:50] 	 Betacommand: How did you perform the checkout?
[16:57:07] 	 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/p/mediawiki/core.git git
[16:57:33] 	 03(mod) Boolean properties are dropped when SMW_refreshData.php is run - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38920  +comment (10Jeroen De Dauw)
[16:57:36] 	 using tortoisegit
[16:57:41] 	 Yeah, that oughta do it
[16:58:04] 	 Betacommand: What branch are you on, and what commit hash? (the first 6-8 characters should be enough)
[16:59:12] * Betacommand  just sees MediaWiki 	1.19alpha
[16:59:27] 	 Betacommand: That's the branch?
[16:59:41] 	 thats from special:Version
[16:59:44] 	 oh
[16:59:46] 	 ..
[16:59:46] 	 we moved to git
[16:59:57] 	 Skizzerz: I know
[17:00:25] 	 03(NEW) Creating new accounts causes database error on PostgreSQL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38925 normal; MediaWiki: Database; (me)
[17:00:26] 	 Betacommand: I'm sure Special:Version is very nice, but I need the information from the git repo. What branch, what commit hash?
[17:00:27] * Skizzerz  fails at reading scrollback
[17:00:46] 	 Skizzerz: Here, take my +2 Sword of Page Up
[17:01:07] 	 oh
[17:02:18] 	 hmm
[17:02:28] 	 what weapon proficiency do I need for that?
[17:02:41] 	 I only have Simple
[17:02:57] 	 Skizzerz: It's more a metaphor, so there's no prerequisites.
[17:03:01] 	 :P
[17:03:13] 	 (read: It's integral to my brilliant plot, rules be damned)
[17:03:47] 	 Betacommand: Any luck finding git info?
[17:04:12] 	 marktraceur: looking how to find that
[17:04:29] 	 Betacommand: I suppose you don't have access to a terminal?
[17:04:49] * marktraceur  just does git log and has all the answers :)
[17:05:08] 	 marktraceur: I have full access
[17:06:05] 	 grr its saying its not an active git repository.  /me does another checkout
[17:06:14] 	 That might do it
[17:06:52] * Betacommand  followed the instructions and somehow lost the git repo
[17:07:27] 	 Betacommand: I don't suppose you were trying to overwrite an existing mediawiki install? I've never done that before, but it might have caused trouble
[17:07:45] 	 marktraceur: that is what you need to do to upgrade
[17:08:46] 	 Betacommand: I guess so. I don't know how git plays with existing directories in its path....maybe just fine, I don't know
[17:08:47] 	 New patchset: Raimond Spekking; "Update description message key" [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17196
[17:09:06] 	 Change merged: Raimond Spekking; [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17196
[17:09:27] * Betacommand  needs to update his php
[17:17:45] 	 New patchset: Werdna; "Echo: Implement advanced notifications for vanilla talk pages." [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16859
[17:18:00] 	 RoanKattouw: how much of Echo core did you end up reviewing?
[17:18:08] 	 03(mod) Boolean properties are dropped when SMW_refreshData.php is run - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38920  +comment (10Neill Mitchell)
[17:18:08] 	 I didn't get any complaints by email so I assume none ;-)
[17:18:26] 	 hey werdna
[17:18:31] 	 hey Daniel_WMDE 
[17:18:47] 	 werdna: None, I just did the Gerrit review then I got kicked out of the office by James
[17:19:49] 	 RoanKattouw: nod, okay. Let's see if somebody can at least sanity check the stuff that's already in
[17:22:12] 	 03(FIXED) Article Feedback - Increase Test Sample to 10% of English Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37616  (10Fabrice Florin)
[17:24:51] 	 New review: Parent5446; "My apologies. I actually didn't change anything. I used this change as a base for change I68eb9f27 a..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16848
[17:25:29] 	 03(mod) Problem with hidden feedback overlay - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38499  (10Fabrice Florin)
[17:26:16] 	 !g 17107 | werdna: maybe interesting
[17:26:16] 	 werdna: maybe interesting: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#q,17107,n,z
[17:26:40] 	 marktraceur: you've already pointed me at it :))
[17:26:49] 	 Have I?
[17:27:15] 	 werdna: This is a PHP implementation, not my JS one
[17:27:31] 	 ahhhh
[17:27:42] 	 Add me as a reviewer
[17:27:53] 	 I need to finish Echo stuff right now and don't want to forget
[17:31:33] 	 03(NEW) Request to create وخ and نو namespace aliases on Arabic Wikinews - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38926 normal; Wikimedia: Site configuration; (ateu3myhet)
[17:31:39] 	 thx marktraceur 
[17:32:17] 	 New review: MarkTraceur; "I'm adding werdna as a reviewer, since you're basically reimplementing his work, as I understand it-..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17107
[17:32:20] 	 RoanKattouw: I *think* I've addressed everything…
[17:32:30] 	  ! [remote rejected] HEAD -> refs/publish/master/master (change 17147 closed)
[17:32:30] 	 yay
[17:32:33] 	 hmmmmmmm
[17:32:59] 	 someone merged it already?
[17:33:23] 	 Nikerabbit: that's the wrong change #
[17:33:38] 	 should be change 17031
[17:34:45] 	 03(mod) Request to create وخ and نو namespace aliases on Arabic Wikinews - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38926   +shell (10PICAWN)
[17:35:29] 	 03(mod) Request to create وخ and نو namespace aliases on Arabic Wikinews - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38926   +shellpolicy; +comment (10Krenair)
[17:36:32] 	 csteipp: may cable company is using saml but it's brokenrealllllly slow. took 38 secs just to get a 302. and then 34 secs for another 302
[17:37:21] 	 New patchset: Werdna; "Formatting updates for Echo." [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17031
[17:37:31] 	 there we go
[17:37:35] 	 jeremyb: nice to know... which company?
[17:37:38] 	 another patch had snuck its way in
[17:37:52] 	 csteipp: time warner
[17:38:02] 	 csteipp: for their internal sso apparently
[17:38:12] 	 csteipp: not interacting with any other company atm
[17:38:13] 	 I doubt that's the protocol's fault
[17:38:26] 	 werdna: sure, it's the implementation
[17:38:31] 	 RoanKattouw: wanna check that my reviewed patches are right?
[17:39:11] 	 (it's just white screens waiting for it... at first i thought it was 500s)
[17:39:37] 	 New patchset: J; "move sql to TimedMediaHandler.sql, cleanup timestamps" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17190
[17:40:23] 	 Looking
[17:40:26] 	 Change merged: J; [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17190
[17:40:52] 	 New patchset: Subramanya Sastry; "Fixed wikitext escaping bugs and couple unrelated bugs." [mediawiki/extensions/Parsoid] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17201
[17:40:57] 	 New patchset: Umherirrender; "Change File::compare to use getName, not getTitle" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17202
[17:42:06] 	 hi folks, I thought I read somewhere mediawiki was going to update or add a new edit bar, can anyone link to that article?
[17:43:15] 	 !e VisualEditor | marxistvegan: Maybe this
[17:43:15] 	 marxistvegan: Maybe this: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:VisualEditor
[17:43:41] 	 wm-bot: that would be it :)
[17:43:41] 	 Hi marxistvegan, there is some error, I am a stupid bot and I am not intelligent enough to hold a conversation with you :-)
[17:44:22] 	 marxistvegan: You're welcome! :)
[17:44:27] 	 New patchset: Nikerabbit; "Scalability and usability fixes to Special:ManageMessageGroups" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17189
[17:45:45] 	 transferred mediawiki from one server to another and now receiving a blank page when opening the wiki page.  When running list php it I receive warnings with extensions such as pdo_sqlite due to unmatched API's.  How is this fixed?
[17:46:46] 	 error is Module compiled with module API=20050922 PHP compiled with module API=20090626
[17:47:26] 	 Change merged: Catrope; [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17031
[17:47:26] 	 Change merged: Catrope; [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16859
[17:49:55] 	 Change abandoned: Werdna; "Already folded into I9051e4bfb66d1c25c1bf68ec092b52fd90544336." [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17148
[17:51:38] 	 New patchset: Catrope; "Stop triggering the yellow "you have new messages bar"." [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17114
[17:51:51] 	 Change merged: Catrope; [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17114
[17:51:52] 	 New patchset: Umherirrender; "Add localonly= to prop duplicatefiles and imageinfo" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17203
[17:53:18] 	 New patchset: Werdna; "Add escaping for paranoia" [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17204
[17:53:23] 	 New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "Update TimedMediaHandler to master (4b7c77d63d7798a024c7f8b4ba01e2f3e7203550)." [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf8) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17205
[17:53:38] 	 Change merged: Werdna; [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17204
[17:54:18] 	 RoanKattouw: w00t, we have Echo in its final state
[17:54:25] 	 New patchset: Catrope; "Update code/documentation" [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7841
[17:54:51] 	 Change merged: Catrope; [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7841
[17:54:54] 	 03(mod) Request to create وخ and نو namespace aliases on Arabic Wikinews - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38926  +comment (10PICAWN)
[17:54:58] 	 Whee
[17:55:26] 	 Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf8) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17205
[17:56:26] 	 RoanKattouw: well, I guess I should disable a few things too
[17:56:30] 	 like the watchlist editing notifications
[17:56:51] 	 other than that I guess I'll bug kaldari / bsitu into giving the core part a sanity check
[17:56:57] 	 deployment window is 1–3 IIRC
[17:58:52] 	 oh RoanKattouw, one more thing…
[17:58:52] 	 New patchset: Werdna; "Make it possible to swap out LQT notifications for Echo notifications, or to have both" [mediawiki/extensions/LiquidThreads] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16865
[17:58:55] 	 New review: Nikerabbit; "Lightly tested on KDE sprint wiki" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master); V: 1 C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17189
[17:59:53] 	 New review: Pgehres; "Seems to work apart from format=xml, but my understanding is that it is a larger problem within Medi..." [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17011
[17:59:53] 	 Change merged: Pgehres; [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17011
[18:00:27] 	 werdna: You should document that that requires Echo be loaded before LQT
[18:00:37] 	 nod
[18:00:41] 	 Or use a $wgExtensionFunction
[18:00:46] 	 not sure where to document it
[18:00:51] 	 oooh yeah extensionfunctions are a better idea
[18:01:17] 	 New patchset: Raimond Spekking; "Register new extension per https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/16840/" [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17206
[18:01:33] 	 Change merged: Raimond Spekking; [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17206
[18:02:32] 	 Change merged: Catrope; [mediawiki/extensions/LiquidThreads] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16865
[18:03:25] 	 New review: Umherirrender; "Some special pages, like Special:Watchlist shows a link to Special:UserLogin, so the user can login ..." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12578
[18:04:27] 	 New patchset: Subramanya Sastry; "Updated jasmine tests" [mediawiki/extensions/Parsoid] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17207
[18:05:10] 	 03(mod) new deployment-bastion forbid ssh access - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38846  +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[18:05:15] 	 03(NEW) WebM videos have bad mime type - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38927 normal; Wikimedia: Media storage; (j)
[18:06:01] 	 03(mod) labs DNS lacks an entry for deployment-bastion.pmtpa.wmflabs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38846  summary; +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[18:07:01] 	 New review: Spage; "A-OK" [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17168
[18:12:50] 	 03(NEW) extract video thumbnails on tmh1/tmh2 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38928 normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (j)
[18:14:08] * hexmode  tries to use "make-release --snapshot" for a user who wants a tarball
[18:20:33] 	 New patchset: Werdna; "Echo: Make it possible to specify exactly which events are active with $wgEchoEnabledEvents" [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17208
[18:21:45] 	 New patchset: Werdna; "Make LiquidThreads Echo setup use an extension function instead of requiring them to be loaded in a particular order." [mediawiki/extensions/LiquidThreads] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17210
[18:21:50] 	 oookay getting way closer
[18:21:58] * werdna  smiles sweetly at RoanKattouw one more time
[18:21:59] * hexmode  is pleased to see that Reedy updated the make-release in svn for git :)
[18:22:08] 	 03(mod) Request to create وخ and نو namespace aliases on Arabic Wikinews - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38926  -shellpolicy ; +comment (10Krenair)
[18:22:18] 	 then I'll try to get Reedy / kaldari / bsitu to take a look at the rest
[18:23:45] 	 hexmode: it's useful when you need to do releases from git ;)
[18:23:54] 	 :)
[18:23:57] 	 imagine that
[18:29:44] 	 New patchset: Raimond Spekking; "Fix typo from https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/16790/1/InfoPage.i18n.php,unified" [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaIncubator] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17211
[18:29:44] 	 New review: Catrope; "Unescaped message, see inline comments" [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master); V: 0 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17208
[18:31:16] 	 Change merged: Catrope; [mediawiki/extensions/LiquidThreads] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17210
[18:31:38] 	 New review: Raimond Spekking; "Fix of a typo" [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaIncubator] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16790
[18:32:23] 	 okay so who's good with git?
[18:32:43] 	 wait, I may have an idea
[18:33:23] 	 werdna: Me? :D
[18:33:41] 	 RoanKattouw: I had some changes to icons that I never put into gerrit
[18:33:48] 	 so I just managed to recover them from my reflog
[18:34:04] 	 Cool
[18:34:19] 	 but it was part of that "formatting updates" commit, which has already been submitted
[18:34:36] 	 so I figured out I can run a git reset --mixed 
[18:34:40] 	 and now I can commit over the top of that
[18:34:47] 	 man, git is *powerful*
[18:34:56] 	 Yeah git is awesome like that
[18:35:55] 	 Magic
[18:36:50] 	 New patchset: Werdna; "Echo: Replace placeholders with real icons" [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17213
[18:37:05] 	 really getting the hang of it
[18:37:57] 	 is there any case where mediawiki is used as a php framework
[18:38:19] 	 New patchset: Raimond Spekking; "Remove "Add Media Wizard" from translatewiki.net" [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17214
[18:38:24] 	 liangent: yes, labs
[18:38:26] 	 werdna: http://identi.ca/notice/92493371
[18:38:41] 	 Change merged: Raimond Spekking; [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17214
[18:38:59] 	 werdna: Spoiler: what that command does is revealed in http://identi.ca/notice/92493400
[18:39:02] 	 03(mod) Remove .hiddenStructure from CSS - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/17009  (10mybugs.mail)
[18:39:28] 	 hmm
[18:39:56] 	 Reedy: so, my stupid "let's see what this does" invocation of make-release didn't produce signed zip files... will look again and add if needed
[18:40:20] 	 hexmode: it does
[18:40:54] 	 RoanKattouw: I figured that out :p
[18:40:57] 	 that is crazy
[18:41:10] 	 New patchset: Kaldari; "Various minor fixes to the filter selection interface - bug 38771" [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17215
[18:41:15] 	 liangent: Note, I don't think it is a good idea simply b/c that is not how most people use it.  There is a much stronger supporting community for other things like Symfony
[18:41:33] 	 03(mod) Portal namespace on bs.wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37226  +comment (10DzWiki)
[18:41:44] 	 werdna: Hidden nugget: in a Gerrit world, that simultaneously adds Change-Ids to all of them too
[18:41:47] 	 RoanKattouw: any parts in particular of Echo that you haven't really looked at?
[18:42:00] 	 werdna: All of them?
[18:42:02] 	 :)
[18:42:04] 	 woo!
[18:42:16] * RoanKattouw  didn't have time yesterday and is in an API design meeting now
[18:42:24] 	 figuring out the game plan for getting a good chunk of it sanity checked between now and 2pm :p
[18:43:06] 	 beg tim starling?
[18:43:52] 	 heh
[18:44:03] 	 let me see what we have
[18:44:11] 	 New patchset: Eranroz; "AJAXify watchlist editor" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17216
[18:45:11] 	 New patchset: Hashar; "(bug 38492) let doxygen document variables" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17192
[18:45:43] 	 New review: Hashar; "Self merging, that is out of production usage and need that to be generated overnight." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17192
[18:45:44] 	 Change merged: Hashar; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17192
[18:46:43] 	 New review: SPQRobin; "Thanks!" [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaIncubator] (master); V: 0 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17211
[18:46:50] 	 New review: Subramanya Sastry; "Merging now, but it is still worth simplifying/rewriting the logic when you address the TODO." [mediawiki/extensions/Parsoid] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17145
[18:46:50] 	 Change merged: Subramanya Sastry; [mediawiki/extensions/Parsoid] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17145
[18:47:23] 	 Reedy: I didn't have time to figure out .zip and grepping source for "zip" only shows *.zip, zipProc, and gzip :P
[18:47:36] 	 Change merged: SPQRobin; [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaIncubator] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17211
[18:47:58] 	 okay I think this is what I need reviewed
[18:47:59] 	 http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Echo/Review
[18:48:03] 	 Change merged: GWicke; [mediawiki/extensions/Parsoid] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17207
[18:48:20] 	 hexmode: it creates you a combined file of everything built, patches, signatures etc
[18:48:30] 	 New review: Eranroz; "Resubmitted (fixed version) in https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/17216/" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9979
[18:48:43] 	 03(NEW) Pre/source code is rendered with unwanted newlines due to CSS change - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38929 normal; MediaWiki: Skin: Vector; (mr.heat)
[18:49:10] 	 03(mod) Pre/source code is rendered with unwanted newlines due to CSS change - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38929  (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[18:49:13] 	 New patchset: Kaldari; "Various minor fixes to the filter selection interface - bug 38771" [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17215
[18:49:23] 	 New review: Catrope; "It was added to core like yesterday. If you want it to be broken out into an extension, that's reaso..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17164
[18:49:44] 	 03(FIXED) New Pages Feed - Filters flyout - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38771  +comment (10Ryan Kaldari)
[18:49:58] 	 
[18:49:59] 	 Reedy: right and my tar only had .tar.gz and .tar.gz.sig. No biggie, just strange.
[18:50:03] 	 New review: Parent5446; "Oh! I didn't realize this was already being made. I just thought the JS version was on its own. I ca..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17107
[18:50:39] 	 hey, I'm just setting up different languages for mediawiki, and just wondering if I'm doing this right following the instructions, do I need 3 copies of the mediawiki-1.19.1 folder, 2 for the different languages and 1 for pool, and install each separately?
[18:50:56] 	 just rename those folders to e.g. en, de, pool or whatever?
[18:51:07] 	 New review: RobLa; "So, the logic behind this request is to make it so that Special:Version on Wikimedia sites and insta..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16433
[18:52:04] 	 New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Lint fixes" [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17217
[18:52:04] 	 New patchset: Ori.livneh; "track() returns a promise" [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17218
[18:52:32] 	 Change merged: Ori.livneh; [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17217
[18:52:40] 	 New review: MarkTraceur; "No need yet, I'd let werdna take a look before abandoning. If there's some feature he doesn't have, ..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17107
[18:52:45] 	 03(mod) phpunt test failure BlockTest::testInitializerFunctionsReturnCorrectBlock - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31929  (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[18:52:49] 	 03(mod) PostgreSQL/pgsql support (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/384  (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[18:53:41] 	 !404
[18:53:41] 	 There is no such key, you probably want to try: !autothumb, !iis404, 
[18:53:52] 	 !iis404
[18:53:52] 	 If you get 404 errors with MediaWiki and IIS, read https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/mediawiki/wiki/Manual:Installing_MediaWiki_on_Windows_Server_2003#h._IIS_returns_a_404_error_page_instead_of_MediaWiki_default_error_page
[18:54:09] 	 03(mod) Request to create وخ and نو namespace aliases on Arabic Wikinews - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38926  normal->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[18:54:28] 	 Betacommand: Can I take from that that you fixed your git clone?
[18:54:48] 	 marktraceur: yeah, but now I have a new error
[18:58:27] 	 New patchset: Raimond Spekking; "Proper casing for HTML5 for consistency" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17219
[18:59:36] 	 !shorturl
[18:59:37] 	 To create simple URLs (such as the /wiki/PAGENAME style URLs on Wikimedia sites), follow the instructions at . There are instructions for most different webserver setups. If you have problems getting the rewrite rules to work, see !rewriteproblem
[19:00:08] 	 New review: Parent5446; "Sounds good. Also, as I noted in the commit message, there is another change in review (I53dcf547) t..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17107
[19:00:53] 	 New review: MarkTraceur; "Right, that's werdna's change :)" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17107
[19:02:05] 	 New review: Parent5446; "*facepalm myself*" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17107
[19:02:49] 	 So who else likes code review? :))
[19:03:06] 	 Pff, "likes"
[19:03:10] 	 heh
[19:03:18] 	 well, "is willing to do in exchange for beer"
[19:04:07] 	 Ooh, beer
[19:04:11] 	 New review: Werdna; "Minor" [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17213
[19:04:11] 	 Change merged: Werdna; [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17213
[19:05:59] 	 New patchset: Nikerabbit; "Unbreak Special:FS after I8dbbb9" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17220
[19:06:54] 	 Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16668
[19:07:21] 	 New patchset: Raimond Spekking; "Consistency tweak for easier guessing of the ext-code" [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17221
[19:12:38] 	 New patchset: Werdna; "Echo: Make it possible to specify exactly which events are active with $wgEchoEnabledEvents" [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17208
[19:16:35] 	 Change merged: Raimond Spekking; [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17221
[19:21:19] 	 Change merged: Catrope; [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17208
[19:24:08] 	 03(mod) Allow caching for Revision::newFromTitle to reduce database load - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37030  +comment (10Asher Feldman)
[19:25:54] 	 Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17220
[19:29:42] 	 03(mod) New logo path Ukrainian Wikiquote - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38610  normal->15enhancement;  +shell (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[19:30:27] 	 New patchset: Raimond Spekking; "Remove alias file for a removed special page" [mediawiki/extensions/LastModified] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17222
[19:30:44] 	 03(mod) Allow caching for Revision::newFromTitle to reduce database load - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37030  +comment (10Asher Feldman)
[19:31:24] 	 New review: Raimond Spekking; "Removing the left over special page alias file with https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/17222/" [mediawiki/extensions/LastModified] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16886
[19:34:59] 	 New patchset: TheDJ; "bug 36073 Use mw-imagepage-linkstoimage-ns as a class instead of an ID" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15747
[19:36:43] 	 03(mod) Allow caching for Revision::newFromTitle to reduce database load - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37030  +comment (10Aaron Schulz)
[19:38:00] 	 RoanKattouw: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15747 the merge had failed
[19:38:29] 	 New patchset: Amire80; "(Bug 30599) Filter problematic prefix characters" [mediawiki/extensions/Interwiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17223
[19:39:11] 	 Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17202
[19:40:10] 	 03(NEW) TestORMRowTest::testConstructor with data set #0 (array('Foobar', 42, 9000.1, true, array(13, 11, 7, 5, 3, 2), stdClass), true) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38930 normal; MediaWiki: Unit tests; (overlordq)
[19:40:17] 	 Change abandoned: Alex Monk; "Looks like this was done by Bsitu in Gerrit change 15854." [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13629
[19:40:55] 	 03(mod) TestORMRowTest::testConstructor with data set #0 (array('Foobar', 42, 9000.1, true, array(13, 11, 7, 5, 3, 2), stdClass), true) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38930   +postgresql; +comment (10OverlordQ)
[19:40:58] 	 03(mod) PostgreSQL/pgsql support (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/384  (10OverlordQ)
[19:42:32] 	 New patchset: Werdna; "Update overlay.js in response to comments from MarkTraceur" [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17224
[19:42:38] 	 New review: Alex Monk; "Please revoke the -2, I don't intend to add any more files to this change." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16464
[19:43:58] 	 Change abandoned: Alex Monk; "I don't know how to fix this properly." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13627
[19:44:23] 	 New review: MarkTraceur; "My hero!" [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17224
[19:44:53] 	 03(mod) Click on watched redirect page should remove the bold from watchlist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38088  +comment (10Krenair)
[19:45:41] 	 03(ASSIGNED) New logo path Ukrainian Wikiquote - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38610  +comment (10jeremyb)
[19:50:06] 	 New patchset: J; "Fix TimedText namespace for ForeignDBViaLBRepo" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17225
[19:52:55] 	 03(mod) ConfirmEdit: max(-1) is smaller than min(0) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38856  +comment (10Brion Vibber)
[19:53:13] 	 New patchset: Werdna; "Echo: A few adjustments based on feedback from Ryan Kaldari." [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17226
[19:55:07] 	 hexmode: Krinkle has some sort of snapshot service running
[19:55:33] 	 Reedy: also vvv
[19:55:34] 	 Change merged: Werdna; [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17224
[19:55:47] 	 (just found it)
[19:55:54] 	 Change merged: J; [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17219
[19:55:57] 	 I didn't know if he'd updated it
[19:56:19] 	 right was about to check that on vvv's
[19:59:34] 	 New patchset: John Erling Blad; "Splitting og language attributes in label and description" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17227
[19:59:50] 	 New patchset: Werdna; "Function for "pretty timestamps" that are human readable and understandable." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15746
[20:00:46] 	 vvv's looks up to date
[20:02:00] 	 New patchset: Werdna; "Function for "pretty timestamps" that are human readable and understandable." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15746
[20:02:11] 	 03(mod) New logo path Ukrainian Wikiquote - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38610  15enhancement->normal; +comment (10Bohdan)
[20:02:56] 	 03(mod) Back button behaviour from use my current location geo lookup is wrong - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38900  +comment (10Jon)
[20:03:01] 	 03(FIXED) Back button behaviour from use my current location geo lookup is wrong - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38900  (10Jon)
[20:03:28] 	 New patchset: Mdale; "Fix TimedText namespace for ForeignDBViaLBRepo" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17225
[20:04:40] 	 Platonides: Hey :) Would you be willing to draft something for the Signpost either this week or next re GSoC?
[20:04:41] 	 New review: J; "does not fail on labs" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master); V: 1 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17225
[20:04:45] 	 Reedy: nothing from Krinkle here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Krinkle/Tools
[20:05:52] 	 https://toolserver.org/~krinkle/mwSnapshots/#!/mediawiki-core/master
[20:06:06] 	 https://github.com/Krinkle/ts-krinkle-mwSnapshots
[20:06:07] 	 just found it, was about to paste ;)
[20:07:07] 	 Also, while I'm here, I'm thinking about running a "day in the life of a staff developer" one-off (or, if well received, short series) later in the year.
[20:07:29] 	 03(mod) "page_is_redirect" wrong on Indonesian (and probably other non-English) wiki dumps. Doesn't recognize localization of "#REDIRECT" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38919  +comment (10Brion Vibber)
[20:07:59] 	 hrm... looks like Krinkle's give a 404 though :P
[20:09:23] 	 Jarry1250: "I spend most of the day, not doing my actual job..."
[20:09:27] 	 03(mod) New logo path Ukrainian Wikiquote - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38610  +comment (10jeremyb)
[20:10:55] 	 Reedy: I can already see the spike in donations!
[20:11:39] 	 New patchset: J; "Fix TimedText namespace for ForeignDBViaLBRepo" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17225
[20:12:51] 	 New patchset: John Erling Blad; "Splitting og language attributes in label and description" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17227
[20:13:53] 	 03(mod) Provide better messages if the search phrase contains part of the "search syntax" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29989  (10mybugs.mail)
[20:14:11] 	 03(mod) Provide better messages if the search phrase contains part of the "search syntax" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29989  (10mybugs.mail)
[20:14:44] 	 03raymond *  10/trunk/extensions/ (70 files in 67 dirs): Localisation updates from http://translatewiki.net.
[20:15:12] 	 New patchset: Werdna; "Fix missing global" [mediawiki/extensions/LiquidThreads] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17329
[20:15:44] 	 New patchset: J; "Fix TimedText namespace for ForeignDBViaLBRepo" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17225
[20:15:47] 	 Change merged: Werdna; [mediawiki/extensions/LiquidThreads] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17329
[20:16:52] 	 New patchset: J; "Fix TimedText namespace for ForeignDBViaLBRepo" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17225
[20:17:33] 	 03(mod) "page_is_redirect" wrong on Indonesian (and probably other non-English) wiki dumps. Doesn't recognize localization of "#REDIRECT" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38919  +comment (10Brion Vibber)
[20:18:02] 	 New patchset: Werdna; "Echo: A few adjustments based on feedback from Ryan Kaldari." [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17226
[20:20:41] 	 03(mod) Show current user location on map - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38921  +comment (10Brion Vibber)
[20:22:14] 	 Reedy: heh, I just missed your message because I took time off to, um, watch the olympics :P
[20:22:35] 	 03(mod) Monument details - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38922  +comment (10Brion Vibber)
[20:24:09] 	 Krinkle: ping me when you're around
[20:27:23] 	 03(mod) Unneeded characters appear in the bubble on the map - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38913  +comment (10Brion Vibber)
[20:28:40] 	 Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/Interwiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17223
[20:30:08] 	 Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/ProofreadPage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15866
[20:31:47] 	 New patchset: GWicke; "Support urlencoded colons in urls" [mediawiki/extensions/Parsoid] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17331
[20:32:52] 	 New patchset: J; "Fix TimedText namespace for ForeignDBViaLBRepo" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17225
[20:33:58] 	 New review: GWicke; "Trivial change, so self-reviewing" [mediawiki/extensions/Parsoid] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17331
[20:33:58] 	 Change merged: GWicke; [mediawiki/extensions/Parsoid] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17331
[20:34:21] 	 03(FIXED) Parsoid does not handle urlencoded interwiki prefixes correctly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38906  +comment (10Gabriel Wicke)
[20:36:02] 	 New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "Refactor Wikibase API tests." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17332
[20:37:01] 	 New review: Tychay; "All the work is in the JS file (which I didn't review)." [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master); V: 0 C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17226
[20:39:58] 	 New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "bug 38569: make sitelink URLs optional in API" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17074
[20:42:07] 	 New patchset: J; "Fix TimedText namespace for ForeignDBViaLBRepo" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17225
[20:45:05] 	 New patchset: J; "Fix TimedText namespace for ForeignDBViaLBRepo" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17225
[20:46:14] 	 03(mod) Cleanup QQQ codes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38892  +comment (10Jon)
[20:48:47] 	 New patchset: J; "Fix TimedText namespace for ForeignDBViaLBRepo" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17225
[20:49:37] 	 New patchset: DaSch; "clean patch for Bug 38783" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17333
[20:54:28] 	 03(FIXED) New logo path Ukrainian Wikiquote - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38610  +comment (10jeremyb)
[20:55:10] 	 03(mod) Establish suitable short-term replacement for important code review tags - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38239  (10Rob Lanphier)
[20:56:39] 	 New patchset: jan; "Add feature to disable rollback edit count" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17335
[20:57:57] 	 I'm definitely starting to suspect that the node/mongo wrapper is ignoring my commands
[20:58:52] 	 New review: jan; "I create a new change that improves this change of Catrope: Ifbbf802472ce678694b2b3ba4ef441344cc1d572" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17164
[21:02:11] 	 Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17225
[21:05:31] 	 New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "Update TimedMediaHandler to master (a247b6264c99cff66e4e3ae3428a46f971fab3a2)" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf8) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17336
[21:05:43] 	 Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf8) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17336
[21:05:44] 	 03(mod) Gadgets for anonymous users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29301  (10mybugs.mail)
[21:07:29] 	 03(mod) Special:Ask - autocompletion for printouts does not work (1.8 alpha) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/26336  summary; +comment (10[[kgh]])
[21:10:21] 	 03(FIXED) Interwiki extension's "prefix" field doesn't validate input - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30599  +comment (10Robin Pepermans (SPQRobin))
[21:16:43] 	 03(mod) Cannot filter on ICS 4.0.4 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38896  +comment (10Brion Vibber)
[21:16:47] 	 New patchset: Werdna; "Echo: A few adjustments based on feedback from Ryan Kaldari and Benny Situ." [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17226
[21:16:54] 	 New patchset: Subramanya Sastry; "Additional html2wt tests for testing wikitext escaping." [mediawiki/extensions/Parsoid] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17338
[21:17:53] 	 03(mod) Show current user location on map - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38921  +comment (10Jon)
[21:23:44] 	 New patchset: Werdna; "New copy from Vibha" [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17339
[21:24:00] 	 New patchset: Werdna; "LiquidThreads adjustments for new copy" [mediawiki/extensions/LiquidThreads] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17340
[21:24:24] 	 Change merged: Werdna; [mediawiki/extensions/LiquidThreads] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17340
[21:24:31] 	 Change merged: Werdna; [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17339
[21:26:28] 	 New patchset: Jarry1250; "SVGMessageGroup: override getSourceLanguage(), add getOnWikiLanguages()" [mediawiki/extensions/TranslateSvg] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16894
[21:28:34] 	 New patchset: Reedy; "Shrink file size of PNGs (yay, lossless compression)" [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17341
[21:29:28] 	 Hi! Does anyone knows of a plugin that allows one to download a file from the code? Something like this on dokuwiki https://www.dokuwiki.org/syntax#downloadable_code_blocks
[21:29:33] 	 Change merged: Werdna; [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17341
[21:30:00] 	 I don't think one currently exists for MediaWiki, sorry
[21:30:48] 	 New review: Reedy; "For reference:" [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17341
[21:32:04] 	 Reedy, oh well. Thanks anyway
[21:32:20] 	 It'd be a nice addition to our syntax highlighting
[21:33:34] 	 It would appear that chughakshay16 and his wonderful GSoC project are still a trainwreck.
[21:34:09] 	 Reedy, in dokuwiki it's atually part of the core syntax. Don't know how hard it would be to implement it. Found someone on the internet who was trying but never said anything back
[21:34:32] 	 New patchset: Werdna; "Echo: A few adjustments based on feedback from Ryan Kaldari and Benny Situ." [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17226
[21:35:08] 	 03(mod) Cannot filter on ICS 4.0.4 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38896  +comment (10Brion Vibber)
[21:35:24] 	 johnduhart: Is that the convention extension? And "trainwreck"?
[21:35:32] 	 carandraug: I can imagine this working pretty nicely, actually. Offering files for download is pretty simple in JavaScript.
[21:35:34] 	 Jarry1250: Yes
[21:36:10] 	 carandraug: Find the closest syntaxhighlight element, take its insides, and offer that content as a download
[21:36:14] 	 New patchset: Werdna; "Echo: A few adjustments based on feedback from Ryan Kaldari and Benny Situ." [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17226
[21:36:59] 	 New patchset: CSteipp; "Add global throttling to AbuseFilter" [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17343
[21:38:19] 	 marktraceur: certainly worth filing as an enhancement request
[21:39:06] 	 New patchset: MarkTraceur; "Moved documents list to a table form" [wikimedia/orgchart] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17344
[21:39:31] 	 03(NEW) Campaign names on monuments - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38931 normal; WikiLoves Monuments Mobile: Browse; (jrobson)
[21:39:52] 	 New review: MarkTraceur; "Benevolent Dictator says "make it so"." [wikimedia/orgchart] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17344
[21:39:52] 	 Change merged: MarkTraceur; [wikimedia/orgchart] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17344
[21:40:04] 	 marktraceur, I wouldn't know where to start from but am willing to fund someone who does
[21:40:45] 	 carandraug: Let's file an enhancement request, see where it goes--maybe you can donate to the Foundation rather than hiring someone :)
[21:40:46] 	 marktraceur, well, not offering a fortune
[21:41:08] 	 marktraceur, which one? FSF?
[21:41:11] 	 It likely shouldn't be that much work
[21:41:20] 	 carandraug: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=MediaWiki%20extensions&component=SyntaxHighlight+%28GeSHi%29
[21:41:54] 	 carandraug: The Wikimedia Foundation, of course :) (I mean, I'm not one to discourage donations to the FSF, but the WMF is a lot more on-topic here)
[21:42:05] 	 New patchset: Werdna; "Echo: A few adjustments based on feedback from Ryan Kaldari and Benny Situ." [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17226
[21:42:33] 	 Reedy: Agreed. Are you thinking about doing it?
[21:42:35] 	 marktraceur: Hehe foundation doing something that doesn't directly benifit Wikipedia, that's funny
[21:43:10] 	 Nooo ;)
[21:43:17] 	 johnduhart: "directly benefit" is a pretty vague thing to say, methinks
[21:44:21] 	 carandraug: Did that link do it for you? Or would you like me to file it? (I can, but I think you might be better equipped to explain what you want)
[21:44:32] 	 New patchset: Werdna; "Echo: A few adjustments based on feedback from Ryan Kaldari and Benny Situ." [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17226
[21:44:50] 	 I was just offer a 2h works pay which is around 20�
[21:45:05] 	 marktraceur, I was trying to find a way to not create an account. But they don't seem to support openID
[21:45:18] 	 New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Add dummy tracking call from Special:RecentPages" [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17345
[21:45:20] 	 carandraug: Yeah. I can submit it for you if you want.
[21:45:51] 	 marktraceur, thank you. I'm not very fond of having different accounts everywhere
[21:46:29] 	 marktraceur, and if you'd like to do it, I promise to pay 20�
[21:47:07] 	 carandraug: I would definitely encourage you to donate it somewhere if I did it :) anyway, do you want to PM me an email address so I can CC you?
[21:47:25] 	 marktraceur, and what I meant was pretty simple. It's exactly the same as on the dokuwiki
[21:47:41] 	 marktraceur, carandraug+dev@gmail.com
[21:48:04] 	 marktraceur, ok. Then if you do it I'll donate it to the WMF
[21:48:37] 	 03(mod) Campaign names on monuments - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38931  +comment (10Brion Vibber)
[21:49:58] 	 New patchset: Bsitu; "remove trailing whitespace and extra comma" [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17346
[21:49:58] 	 marktraceur: don't they need a bz account to be cc'd?
[21:50:43] 	 03(NEW) Downloadable code blocks (suggestion from IRC) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38932 enhancement; MediaWiki extensions: SyntaxHighlight (GeSHi); (mtraceur)
[21:50:52] 	 Reedy: Evidently :)
[21:51:07] 	 !b 38932 | carandraug
[21:51:07] 	 carandraug: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38932
[21:51:14] 	 I couldn't CC you, carandraug
[21:52:18] 	 marktraceur, that's ok
[21:53:31] 	 Change abandoned: CSteipp; "We will wait for RL2 for this" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/10458
[21:53:34] 	 marktraceur, if you ever get around to implement that, you can come claim it on #octave
[21:53:37] 	 New review: Catrope; "Revoked" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16464
[21:53:40] 	 or sed me an e-mail
[21:53:50] 	 carandraug: I'll keep it in mind :)
[21:54:28] 	 Change merged: Catrope; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15747
[21:54:31] 	 03(mod) Downloadable code blocks (suggestion from IRC) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38932  +comment (10Mark Holmquist)
[21:56:19] 	 gwicke: "some reason" = that's what urlencode() does, and we have to encode there because user input is involved
[21:56:22] 	 :)
[21:56:32] 	 But thanks for fixing that, now I can make the prefix change in VE
[21:56:41] 	 RoanKattouw: you could just encode the user-supplied part though
[21:56:47] 	 True
[21:56:51] 	 or fix urlencode to only encode non-ASCII chars
[21:56:59] 	 New patchset: Werdna; "One more copy change" [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17347
[21:57:01] 	 ;)
[21:57:02] 	 I could do urlencode($prefix).':'.urlencode($page)
[21:57:12] 	 Or use wfUrlencode which actually has that behavior
[21:57:18] 	 New patchset: Werdna; "Echo: A few adjustments based on feedback from Ryan Kaldari and Benny Situ." [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17226
[21:57:41] 	 we don't accept urlencoding for other ASCII chars either
[21:57:56] 	 Change merged: Werdna; [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17347
[21:58:03] 	 Apparently you do though
[21:58:08] 	 Not in regex matching
[21:58:16] 	 But in the regex match result, things are decoded correctly
[21:59:10] 	 %6d%77%3a for example will never work
[21:59:15] 	 03(FIXED) Cleanup QQQ codes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38892  +comment (10Jon)
[21:59:28] 	 decodes to mw:
[21:59:42] 	 Doesn't that work though?
[21:59:45] 	 nope
[21:59:50] 	 Hmm I wonder why not
[22:00:04] 	 From my debugging it seemed like it would
[22:00:06] * RoanKattouw  pokes
[22:00:12] 	 our regexp does not include stupid encoding like that
[22:00:24] 	 there is no point in urlencoding 'mw'
[22:00:29] 	 since it is plain ASCII
[22:00:45] 	 and has no special semantics in urls either
[22:02:24] 	 Oooh right
[22:02:32] 	 It's because the regex matches against the raw non-decoded URL
[22:02:35] 	 Which is broken IMO
[22:02:49] 	 And the regex doesn't allow % signs in interwiki prefixes
[22:03:04] 	 New patchset: Werdna; "Echo: A few adjustments based on feedback from Ryan Kaldari and Benny Situ." [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17226
[22:03:58] 	 New patchset: Werdna; "Echo: A few adjustments based on feedback from Ryan Kaldari and Benny Situ." [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17226
[22:04:04] 	 However, http://localhost:8000/mw:%4d%61%69%6e%5f%50%61%67%65 works just fine
[22:04:08] 	 (decodes to mw:Main_Page)
[22:04:26] 	 It's because app.get()'s regex handling is deeply evil
[22:04:42] 	 New patchset: J; "bind to go button once its loaded" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17349
[22:04:44] 	 When matching, it matches against the raw URL with possibly-encoded stuff
[22:05:32] 	 But when it returns matches (even captured subexpressions!), it returns them decoded
[22:05:52] 	 So matches[1] is not what *actually matched* the first subexpression, which is evil
[22:09:05] 	 New patchset: Werdna; "Echo: A few adjustments based on feedback from Ryan Kaldari and Benny Situ." [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17226
[22:17:29] 	 New patchset: Werdna; "Clean up badger.{css,js} from PageTriage, generalise it and move it into core." [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf8) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17351
[22:17:46] 	 !seen varent
[22:17:54] 	 Change merged: J; [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17349
[22:18:02] 	 been a while
[22:18:59] 	 werdna: badgerbadgerbadgerbadgerbadger
[22:19:00] 	 !seen varnent
[22:19:10] 	 03(mod) Odd session bugs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35900  +comment (10Platonides)
[22:19:29] 	 Amgine: johnduhart: < jeremyb> been a while
[22:19:41] 	 johnduhart: did you come to wikimania?
[22:19:45] 	 Yes. Note the spelling difference?
[22:19:57] 	 oh, yeah
[22:20:12] 	 No, I didn't. I had work obligations
[22:20:16] 	 but my original statement applies still. i only searched for the original
[22:20:21] 	 johnduhart: ;(
[22:20:53] 	 Change merged: Kaldari; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf8) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17351
[22:22:37] 	 RoanKattouw: feel free to patch the express framework we are using ;)
[22:22:57] 	 heh
[22:23:25] 	 we assume that interwiki prefixes are always ascii
[22:23:57] 	 Change merged: Kaldari; [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17226
[22:24:51] 	 so if you'd like to add non-ascii ones (or like to urlencode ascii chars for some reason), express would need to be tweaked to run the regexp on decoded urls
[22:25:14] 	 New patchset: Werdna; "Add Echo" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf8) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17352
[22:25:59] 	 Right
[22:26:03] 	 I probably won't need that in practice
[22:26:05] 	 It just bothers me
[22:28:36] 	 03(mod) Article feedback - Change oversight links to feedback page (instead of permalink page) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38881  major->normal (10Fabrice Florin)
[22:29:09] 	 03(mod) Article Feedback 5 - Abuse filter fixes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37615  (10Fabrice Florin)
[22:29:32] 	 New patchset: Werdna; "Add Echo" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf8) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17352
[22:29:37] 	 03(mod) Article Feedback - Supporting feedback on help pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36772  major->normal (10Fabrice Florin)
[22:29:59] 	 Change merged: Kaldari; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf8) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17352
[22:38:02] 	 03(FIXED) Adding interwiki link causes: Database query error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37530  +comment (10Platonides)
[22:46:47] 	 New patchset: MarkTraceur; "Add in new document functionality" [wikimedia/orgchart] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17354
[22:47:02] 	 Change merged: MarkTraceur; [wikimedia/orgchart] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17354
[22:54:44] 	 !maintenance
[22:54:44] 	 There is no such key, you probably want to try: !adminsettings, !createandpromote, !shell, !sitemap, 
[22:56:17] 	 14(DUP) Pre/source code is rendered with unwanted newlines due to CSS change - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38929  +comment (10Krinkle)
[22:56:18] 	 03(mod) Tidy should not create (additional) white space between elements - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38800  +comment (10Krinkle)
[23:01:08] 	 !importImages
[23:01:56] 	 03(NEW) Rotating and maps carnage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38933 normal; WikiLoves Monuments Mobile: Maps; (jrobson)
[23:02:35] 	 03(mod) Rotating and maps carnage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38933  +comment (10Jon)
[23:02:41] 	 !botnoob | Betacommand
[23:02:41] 	 Betacommand: I don't know everything about everything. I am mostly for lazy experienced users to echo quick answers to very common mediawiki questions. Please don't randomly experiment with me for help. Everything I know is at http://toolserver.org/~mwbot/botbrain.html and you can visit #mwbot or privately message me.
[23:02:42] 	 03(mod) Loss of historical data - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34149  +comment (10Platonides)
[23:03:46] 	 marktraceur: I figured it would have that, as importImages.php is a fairly commonly used script
[23:03:58] 	 New patchset: Kaldari; "Better inline styling for badge." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17357
[23:04:07] 	 Betacommand: I suppose you can find out at the URL above
[23:04:36] 	 marktraceur: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:ImportImages.php
[23:05:45] 	 03(mod) Change the Wikisource logo - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38832  +comment (10Jon)
[23:06:37] 	 03(NEW) Old dates are added with a week - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38934 normal; MediaWiki extensions: SemanticForms; (dasch)
[23:07:04] 	 I think I got removed from the trusted list, but here goes
[23:07:14] 	 03(mod) Old dates are added with a week - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38934  normal->major (10DaSch)
[23:07:17] 	 !importimages is https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:ImportImages.php
[23:07:17] 	 Key was added
[23:07:19] 	 Sweet
[23:07:23] 	 !importimages
[23:07:23] 	 03(NEW) Header looks wrong - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38935 normal; WikiLoves Monuments Mobile: General; (jrobson)
[23:07:23] 	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:ImportImages.php
[23:07:40] 	 03(mod) Password hash weakening under special circunstances - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35961  (10Platonides)
[23:07:44] 	 Change merged: Werdna; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17357
[23:08:34] 	 03(NEW) Image loading delay - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38936 normal; WikiLoves Monuments Mobile: Browse; (jrobson)
[23:15:49] 	 New review: CSteipp; "Fixes bug 36524 in my dev environment" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15701
[23:21:14] 	 New patchset: Kaldari; "Switching to use core badging module - no longer necessary to typecast value." [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17360
[23:22:10] 	 Change merged: Kaldari; [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17346
[23:25:39] 	 New patchset: Werdna; "Echo: Fix bugs related to replication lag" [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17361
[23:25:46] 	 03(mod) Enable $wgHtml5 on Wikimedia wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27478  +comment (10Krenair)
[23:25:47] 	 Reedy: ^^ bug fixes
[23:26:04] 	 03(NEW) Review Button Missing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38937 blocker; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (flyoffacliff)
[23:26:37] 	 03(mod) Review Button Missing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38937  (10flyoffacliff)
[23:26:43] 	 flyoffacliff@gmail.com?
[23:28:23] 	 New patchset: Kaldari; "Fixing bug 37022 - making sure marking doesn't fail silently." [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16797
[23:28:39] 	 03(mod) Review Button Missing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38937  04BLOCKER->normal; +comment (10Krenair)
[23:36:17] 	 Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17361
[23:40:43] 	 03(mod) Enable SubPageList3 on cswiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38903  +comment (10Roan Kattouw)
[23:43:38] 	 03(mod) Merge the Wikidata ContentHandler branch - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38622  +comment (10Tim Starling)
[23:47:36] 	 Change merged: Catrope; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17203
[23:49:42] 	 New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "[FileBackend] Skip over some illegal paths and output the error." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16898
[23:49:45] 	 New review: Catrope; "Instead of using a separate global, maybe using $wgMiserMode would be better? Thoughts?" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17335
[23:50:08] 	 New patchset: Bsitu; "IE is caching ajax result, fix it by:" [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17363
[23:51:29] 	 New review: Aaron Schulz; "Yes, miser mode should be used." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17335
[23:52:14] 	 Change merged: Catrope; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16898
[23:53:22] 	 I know reassignedits.php can move edits, how do you update the logs for  the old user also?
[23:56:12] 	 New patchset: J; "Fix mw-provider and url for shared text tracks" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17364
[23:57:25] 	 Change merged: Bsitu; [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17086
[23:59:53] 	 Change merged: Bsitu; [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16797