[00:03:28] 03(mod) comment doesn't post - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31226 (10mybugs.mail) [00:09:59] 03(mod) Message preview does not show anything after a while of waiting - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28664 (10mybugs.mail) [00:14:06] New patchset: Chughakshay16; "UI elements for the extension (fixed issues pointed out earlier)" [mediawiki/extensions/ConventionExtension] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14052 [00:14:08] New patchset: Siebrand; "Update tags." [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17780 [00:14:53] New patchset: Siebrand; "Group the 3 messages per user group and add two missing." [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaMessages] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17781 [00:15:29] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaMessages] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17781 [00:16:02] Change merged: Siebrand; [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17780 [00:16:35] New patchset: Chughakshay16; "UI elements for the extension (fixed issues pointed out earlier)" [mediawiki/extensions/ConventionExtension] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14052 [00:18:39] 03(mod) HTML escaped when marking thread as read from Special:NewMessages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27921 (10mybugs.mail) [00:18:40] 03(mod) "Marked as read"-message does not parse the title the same way "titles" are (blocks like should not expand) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28294 (10mybugs.mail) [00:21:43] 03siebrand * 10/trunk/extensions/WhiteListEdit/WhiteListEdit.i18n.php: Add missing grouppage messages. [00:30:01] 03(mod) "Lqt change edited root" msg $1 needs expandUri ([/w/.... text]) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28408 (10mybugs.mail) [00:31:13] 03(mod) "Lqt change edited root" msg $1 needs expandUri ([/w/.... text]) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28408 (10mybugs.mail) [00:36:06] 03(NEW) 1: near "": syntax error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39063 normal; MediaWiki extensions: AskSQL; (brandonskypimenta) [00:37:48] New patchset: Siebrand; "Use int: to refer to button text." [mediawiki/extensions/FlaggedRevs] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17782 [00:38:52] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/FlaggedRevs] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17782 [00:42:14] 03(mod) "Marked as read"-message does not parse the title the same way "titles" are (blocks like should not expand) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28294 (10mybugs.mail) [00:47:53] New patchset: Siebrand; "Tweak message." [mediawiki/extensions/ReassignEdits] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17783 [00:48:34] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/ReassignEdits] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17783 [00:52:24] 03(NEW) Database returned error "1: RIGHT and FULL OUTER JOINs are not currently supported". - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39064 normal; MediaWiki extensions: LiquidThreads; (mybugs.mail) [01:02:05] 03(mod) Database returned error "1: RIGHT and FULL OUTER JOINs are not currently supported". - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39064 (10mybugs.mail) [01:04:45] New patchset: Siebrand; "Add GENDER support for 'lqt-feed-reply-intro' and 'lqt-feed-new-thread-intro'." [mediawiki/extensions/LiquidThreads] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17784 [01:16:28] 03(mod) "Marked as read"-message does not parse the title the same way "titles" are (blocks like should not expand) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28294 (10mybugs.mail) [01:16:41] 03(mod) "Marked as read"-message does not parse the title the same way "titles" are (blocks like should not expand) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28294 (10mybugs.mail) [01:24:18] 03(mod) HTML escaped when marking thread as read from Special:NewMessages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27921 (10mybugs.mail) [01:25:02] 03(mod) HTML escaped when marking thread as read from Special:NewMessages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27921 (10mybugs.mail) [01:29:09] 03(mod) Message preview does not show anything after a while of waiting - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28664 (10mybugs.mail) [01:31:29] siebrand, Is it still impossible to translate the LQT namespaces on translatewiki? [01:31:34] (aka bug 34917) [01:31:59] New review: Kaldari; "@Siebrand: There are no deleted qqq messages." [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16803 [01:36:24] New patchset: Siebrand; "Solve some i18n issues in Special:EmailUser." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17785 [01:37:28] 03(mod) [[MediaWiki:Emailuser]] needs GENDER - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32237 +comment (10Siebrand) [01:42:41] 03(mod) LQT strips out of user sigs but not the preceeding , causes display issues - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30434 (10mybugs.mail) [01:53:23] 03(mod) SyntaxHighlight CSS not included in Special:Cite page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39049 +comment (10Sergey Leschina) [01:59:18] Morning guys :) Could you possibly point me at the source for where projects store global css and global javascript for the site please? [01:59:56] I've imported some templates from enwp and they're not working, I suspect maybe it could be a stylesheet issue, so I'm gonna nick enwp's CSS and JS, and add them to the wiki I work on as a test. [02:03:54] anyone around? [02:06:59] BarkingFish: w:en:MediaWiki:common.css and w:en:MediaWiki:common.js [02:07:01] 03(NEW) unable to make edits to wikipedia entries "stick" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39065 normal; Tools: [Other]; (aboudaqn) [02:07:42] excellent, thank you Amgine [02:08:22] 03(mod) unable to make edits to wikipedia entries "stick" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39065 (10aboudaqn) [02:08:27] yw BarkingFish [02:09:41] i've copied the collapse templates into tpi.wikipedia, and they don't work. they box off the contents, but don't collapse or hide, i'm thinking it could be as tony sidaway just suggested, something to do with a css class, so i want to copy commons css and js in and see if it fixes the issue [02:22:00] Amgine, I don't know who to turn to now. The templates I've imported from enwp are not working at all. I'm wondering if people here would be kind enough to find out what is going wrong, or to help me fix them. [02:22:26] Give me a link to the templates. [02:22:33] I imported {{hab}} and {{hat}}, {{collapse}}, {{collapse top}} and {{collapse bottom}} [02:22:35] one sec [02:22:53] When using an external image repository, say, commons, how do you make the links go right to the commons filepage instead of to a local inclusion? [02:23:05] http://tpi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Hidden_archive_top [02:23:12] http://tpi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Hidden_archive_bottom [02:23:18] Isarra: Pretend the images are on your local wiki. [02:23:20] http://tpi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Collapse [02:23:23] http://tpi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Collapse top [02:23:29] http://tpi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Collapse bottom [02:23:29] Amgine: Hmm? [02:23:37] (they will be cached on your local wiki, and create their own links to commons.) [02:23:49] They're the 5 i sucked in, and I imported all the transcluded templates at the same time [02:23:53] But none of the filepages are reachable. [02:24:08] Then you don't have the instant commons set up correctly? [02:24:12] So I need the links to go to the commons ones instead so attribution and stuff is maintained. [02:24:23] Looking, BarkingFish [02:24:31] thanks Amgine :) [02:24:49] I can't believe I'm awake at 3.30 in the morning trying to fix templates :P [02:25:00] * BarkingFish wonders what happened to his sleep pattern :D [02:25:05] ...I have a wiki of which the entire purpose is to confuse people. It is not publicly viewable, but contains nothing but a MediaWiki:Loginreqpagetext full of cat pictures. [02:25:33] So I need the cat pictures to link back to commons. [02:25:55] And I know you can do that; eswp and a bunch of others have files set up to go directly to the shared respository. [02:27:14] BarkingFish: you may want to redevelop this series of templates to use MW native collapse classes. [02:27:42] This series relies on the pre-1.18 Koot scripts. [02:28:02] (or, more specifically, modifications descended from them) [02:28:06] I don't understand why they still work on enwp though [02:28:12] Neither do I. [02:28:15] we're all on 1.20wmf8, aren't we? [02:28:23] or similar. [02:30:19] New review: Yaron Koren; "Siebrand - sorry to keep pounding the backwards-compatibility drum, but it would be better if Admin ..." [mediawiki/extensions/AdminLinks] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12999 [02:30:28] BarkingFish: I really think you'll want to scratch over, and use class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed", and so on. [02:31:14] and where would I change those? I'm no good at working on templates. I just import what works elsewhere, and hope they function :) [02:32:09] Then you're sool. Recruit someone willing to work on templates for tpi. [02:33:04] I do actually have an open request for a second admin there. Hopefully, he knows how to do templates :) [02:33:21] I've asked ToAruShiroiNeko to become an admin on the site, to take some of the load off. [02:33:47] Quite right, and xe does templates.. [02:34:28] wonderful. That saves me some probs then. I just have to wait a week for the SRP to go through, and I can get some help :) [02:34:37] Anyone know of a good method to make an iframe method to place an ext in. [02:34:39] Btw, What does sool mean? [02:34:57] [something] out of luck [02:35:00] can I make the iframe segment and php src in the same file [02:35:02] ah [02:35:34] Thanks for checking anyhow, Amgine :) I guess I really should start learning how to make templates, or I'm gonna be relying on other people to do it for me. [02:36:14] Factor: there is an extension to use iFrames; perhaps you could look at how it works and adapt it. [02:36:27] Amgine, what is it called? [02:36:59] using html5 stuff so need a new instance for div names [02:38:28] factor: https://duckduckgo.com/html/?q=site:mediawiki.org+extension+iframe [02:40:33] looking [02:45:49] Amgine, Looks like a good method thanks [02:45:52] will try it out [02:46:21] yw [02:53:53] Change merged: J; [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17646 [03:09:42] 03(NEW) Divs containing lists that are closed on a list item generate invalid HTML - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39066 normal; MediaWiki: Parser; (dragonlordofxanther) [03:29:25] 03(mod) Replace MD5 password hashing with WHIRLPOOL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28419 +comment (10Daniel Friesen) [03:38:26] New review: Parent5446; "Agreed. Using the index.php/* syntax is rather sloppy. If a wiki isn't going to be using short URLs,..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17404 [03:41:13] 03(mod) Replace MD5 password hashing with WHIRLPOOL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28419 +comment (10Tyler Romeo) [03:46:54] New review: Tim Starling; "What bugs are you referring to?" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17404 [04:05:03] New review: Daniel Friesen; "The issue where if $wgUsePathInfo is guessed incorrectly and set to true when the server doesn't sup..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17404 [04:07:07] Can someone tell me which is the main css file for the Vector skin please [04:10:51] 03(mod) Replace MD5 password hashing with WHIRLPOOL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28419 +comment (10Victor Vasiliev) [04:52:19] 03(mod) Replace MD5 password hashing with WHIRLPOOL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28419 +comment (10Daniel Friesen) [05:08:13] 03(mod) Replace MD5 password hashing with WHIRLPOOL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28419 +comment (10Daniel Friesen) [05:16:53] Gah... I'm not sure where I should put the password rehashing [05:17:37] Hmm [05:33:35] :/ Platonides [05:40:45] Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17622 [05:41:46] New review: Aaron Schulz; "31 comments? :D" [mediawiki/extensions/ConfirmAccount] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17702 [05:46:06] 03(mod) unable to make edits to wikipedia entries "stick" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39065 +comment (10matanya) [05:51:50] 03(mod) Duplicate article_attachment row when an attachment is sent from AgentTicketCompose - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/17706 +comment (10matanya) [05:56:45] New patchset: Daniel Friesen; "Followup ac8b7d54f81f7b3879a7e21c96b0d182a00618d2 fix broken php detection" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17786 [06:03:48] Hey, if i have a file on the server where i am running my media wiki from(exact same folder where i have my localsettings.php in my server), how do i provide a download link for that file on my media wiki site? [06:05:46] eagle_: You do not want to allow donwloading from Mediawiki base folder. Files there contain passwords. [06:06:02] eagle_: Copy that file to somewhere else and download from there. [06:06:52] Where do you suggest i copt that tale [06:06:52] ? [06:08:15] eagle_: Some folder that you can download files from. Or upload it first to Mediawiki with the Mediawiki upload file feature. [06:09:25] This file has to uploaded on an hour basis. So i wrote a java application to upload a sample file frm my comp to the server using SFTP. [06:09:46] so using the media wiki upload feature is kind of not possible i gues [06:10:13] eagle_: Won't a simple external link to the file work? [06:11:00] New review: Liangent; "So the message in sidebar is still not fixed?" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17785 [06:12:34] eagle_: you could script it to upload via the api, then you would have versioning of the file on the wiki as well [06:14:18] hey p858snake|l, how do i script it to upload via the api ? sorry, i am not good at this stuff. [06:15:03] hey dantman, i tried that, but because of security issues opening an external file from mediawiki is very difficult. do you know any easy work around? [06:15:09] have a look at [[Special:Version]] for your api entry point, visit it, then its all pretty much documented [06:15:18] eagle_: not put it in the same folder as mediawiki? [06:16:01] eagle_: Why does MediaWiki need to open the file? You're just uploading a file to the webserver's document root. [06:16:02] i did. i put the file in the same folder as the media wiki files (ie.the same folder where i got my localsettings.php [06:16:53] Dantman: yes. i have the file in the webserver's document root, but when i provide a link in media wiki it ll be a sftp:// link right? [06:17:05] ...no [06:17:35] You're uploading it to the docroot that the webserver serves your wiki from... it'll be a http url just like the MW urls [06:17:48] You'll just use an external link to point to it [06:19:06] say for eg. my link path to the file is sftp://mysite@example.com/opt/example/rnd/mediawiki/mediawiki-1.19.0/GemGemGem.jpg [06:19:24] and this file is in the exam same folder as my localsettings.php, then what external link do i give? [06:20:02] That depends on how you've configured your webserver... basically, that depends on what url you're using for your wiki [06:20:55] my wiki url is mysite.example.com/wiki. Obv i aint asking for the exact url. just an idea as to what kind of link i should provide to reach out to the external file. [06:28:44] New patchset: IAlex; "Use local context where possible in ExpandTemplates." [mediawiki/extensions/ExpandTemplates] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17787 [06:29:41] Do any of you know how to get permission to write in var/www in the server where i have media wiki? [06:30:09] i found a few ways online but none seem to be working. Can anyone help me out with getting permission to wri in var/www? i m using windows. [06:34:40] eagle_: To sum it up, you have a javascript app that uploads files hourly to a webserver. Seems like Mediawiki is not involved at all, so this is off-topic on this channel. [06:35:13] <_Meow> eagle_: Maybe... #linux ? [06:42:17] New patchset: Liangent; "'lang' attrib in #mw-content-text should be set to variant code." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9860 [06:45:06] tale: I won't deny that you could write such a script in JavaScript, but in this case I believe he was using Java ;) [06:48:48] New patchset: Liangent; "'lang' attrib in #mw-content-text should be set to variant code." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9860 [07:03:02] hello [07:03:55] <_Meow> ychouchane: Welcome to #mediawiki. I'm an auto answering robot [07:04:29] New patchset: Santhosh; "Fix a regression - region filter not working" [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17788 [07:08:41] _Meow: who is your owner? [07:09:49] p858snake|l: turing test .... failed [07:09:51] <_Meow> p858snake|l: liangent [07:10:14] liangent: please remove your bot from this channel [07:12:25] p858snake|l: which bot? [07:12:42] I'm not running an irc bot [07:43:22] Change merged: Nikerabbit; [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17788 [08:02:29] New patchset: Mwjames; "Enable gallery images to be redirected to another target" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17700 [08:03:52] New review: Nikerabbit; "Re sidebar: nope. The sidebar design quite horrible, but adding 'text' key around line 1415 of SkinT..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17785 [08:08:41] is there a way to protect specific pages for view from non registered users? [08:09:19] specific pages? [08:10:10] !cms | azi` [08:10:10] azi`: Wikis are designed for openness, to be readable and editable by all. If you want a forum, a blog, a web authoring toolkit or corporate content management system, perhaps don't use wiki software. There is a nice overview of free tools available at including the possibility to try each system. For ways to restrict access in MediaWiki, see !access. [08:10:27] !e Lockdown | azi` [08:10:27] azi`: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Lockdown [08:17:07] hi! how would you whitelist an additional html element for a wiki, e.g. [08:17:47] ? [08:19:46] <_Meow> skalman12: You can modify the code, but it's not recommended [08:20:06] i think there should be a setting for this! [08:20:47] say $wgHtmlTagWhitelist[] = 'mark'; doesn't that make sense? [08:22:07] _Meow: does that mean that there currently is no good way to do this? [08:22:39] <_Meow> Maybe via some extension [08:28:11] New review: Nikerabbit; "Should at least add a note why the messages are not removed, or someone else will remove them later...." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17773 [08:28:17] p858snake|l: thanks. the thing is I have a page that is not ready to be viewed in public and I would like to protect it a bit [08:34:06] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "note ready yet" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17057 [08:34:49] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "as per commit message: waiting for dependency" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14083 [08:35:38] hey all is there anyway I can have this list of topics automatically update: http://wiki.hashweb.org/view/Main_Page [08:36:19] skalman12: There isn't really any reason to have such a setting [08:37:25] All harmless html should work... just doesn't because it's a new element [08:37:32] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "are you doing anything with this, or do you want to abandon it? Seems to me like it's not really nee..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14305 [08:37:47] Whitelisting requires more than just a tag name to handle, we also whitelist specific parameters for each tag. [08:37:59] ok.. should elements such as
work too? [08:38:41] Well when I say 'should' I mean, "If we don't have an issue with it then we should fix the code to support it" [08:39:16] And letting people control that kind of thing with a setting will lead to people doing things like setting $wgHtmlTagWhitelist[] = 'script'; and exposing their wiki to security holes. [08:39:30]
is a little tricky on the other hand. [08:39:30] do you know if there's a bug for it? should i enter one? [08:39:41] why? [08:39:52] Search bugzilla for a bug about and if you don't find one create it [08:40:05] Then again it's actually a small tweak to fix [08:40:22] !lqt [08:40:22] For a proposed threaded discussion system for MediaWiki, see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:LiquidThreads [08:40:29] Whops wrong one [08:40:35] !lst [08:40:35] `!e Labeled_Section_Transclusion`` [08:40:44] :/ The new bot doesn't support this? [08:40:45] New review: jan; "Because there are no more tips what can be fixed in this change, I merge it." [mediawiki/extensions/Poll] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17645 [08:40:45] Change merged: jan; [mediawiki/extensions/Poll] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17645 [08:41:47] Dantman: i don't get it.. i'll file a bug [08:42:21] skalman12: We have a semi-popular extension called "Labeled Section Transclusion" it already has a parser tag hook that calls itself
so it's tricky to just go and enable section support since now that extension conflicts with a html tag. We can't just have both working. [08:43:14] oh.. ok - i don't care *that* much about
:) i'll file a bug for anyway [08:43:20] Yeah [08:43:40] Though if I weren't eating and watching videos I could probably fix that in a few minutes [08:45:09] h� how are u [08:45:11] i need help [08:45:24] i have a last probleme to fix with media wiki to use it in production [08:46:09] Anglais, c'est pas ton langue maternelle peut-être ..? [08:46:26] �a parle fr [08:46:45] trop cool [08:46:58] * jubo2 boit son café du commerce equitable [08:47:03] en fait j'ai un dernier point � r�gler pour utiliser mediawiki en prod [08:47:19] New patchset: Mwjames; "Fixed vanished width/height while template usage, checked jshint (minor)" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17162 [08:48:02] en fait c'est par rapport � l'�dition d'article dans le wiki, il y a pas un plugin qui permet modifier en tps r�el sont texte et de ne pas utilis� les codes wiki, car �a perturbe trop l'utilsiateur [08:50:22] 03(NEW) Add support for HTML tag - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39067 normal; MediaWiki: Parser; (326374) [08:51:25] ychouchane: je ne comprends pas.. tu peux demande en anglais .. [08:51:44] ok [08:51:50] New patchset: Santhosh; "Do not perform full search on page load" [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17790 [08:52:10] mon français, c'est un comme-ci comme-ca niveau A1 [08:52:57] jubo2, ok, i think u speak french, like u see my english is a little not good [08:53:15] we have to manage with what lang skills we have [08:53:27] I'm taking Chinese 101 this autumn [08:54:18] New patchset: IAlex; "Use a better message when a revision is not found." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17773 [08:55:31] New review: IAlex; "Done in messages.inc so that rebuildLanguage.php doesn't override it." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17773 [08:55:38] Nikerabbit, does the Translate extension allow to use Google Translate service, or is it only MS and Apertium? [08:57:08] jubo2: it's a lot easier than french [08:58:45] * jubo2 blames this guy -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cangjie [09:03:04] New patchset: Nikerabbit; "Add FCFontFinder::findFamily()" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17772 [09:03:15] aurimai: google doesn't provide free translation services anymore [09:03:22] hi Jarry1250 [09:03:36] Hey Nikerabbit [09:03:50] Nikerabbit: srsly? [09:04:25] They still do provide paid service, and I personally think it's better than MS. [09:04:29] ychouchane: je pense que tu recherche de wysiwyg [09:05:03] New review: Nikerabbit; "There was too much duplication. Found one issue, maybe you can fix it? :)" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17772 [09:05:05] ychouchane: je ne sais pas s'il y a de bons outils.. ils développent un nouveau [09:05:06] aurimai: yeah, but i know a few projects, that rely on that free service ... well, obviously, they did rely :S [09:05:37] Nikerabbit: It's weird, I wrote almost exactly that patch, then started wondering about caching [09:05:42] aurimai: we have open feature request to support Google api v2 [09:06:14] ychouchane: et voilà: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:WYSIWYG_extensions - je n'ai jamais testé ces extensions [09:06:25] Jarry1250: it just returns DejavuSans for almost every language for me :o [09:06:48] aurimai: but since it is not free developing against it is a bit difficult [09:07:03] Nikerabbit: Yup, me too. I looked into that [09:07:15] but DejaVu Sans supports pretty much everything [09:07:16] Nikerabbit, how difficult? [09:07:56] So I guess that's why it does it. But it leaves me a blank on why Chinese svgs work on Commons but not on my testwiki, because I know the font /can/ handle those characters. [09:08:01] aurimai: they probably have the API spec for free, but I think it is not possible to test it without paying [09:08:12] Jarry1250: not japanese or korean [09:08:47] or chinese for that matter [09:09:18] skalman12, merci, qui en d�veloppent un nouveau ? [09:10:06] Nikerabbit: Hmm, not sure where I got that idea then [09:10:26] Well, at least I have an avenue to explore now [09:10:53] ychouchane: une équipe de Wikimedia! tu peux le tester sur https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/VisualEditor:Sandbox [09:12:03] ychouchane: mais c'est vraiment expérimentiel, et certaines choses ne fonctionnent pas encore [09:12:19] Nikerabbit, I have a paid account to play with, and I do some PHP and JavaScript. How hard would it be to add this functionality to the extension? [09:13:06] ychouchane: utilisez-vous des modèles ? je pense qu'ils ne fonctionnent encore, par exemple [09:13:32] skalman12, c'est exactement �a qu'il faut [09:13:43] non les mod�les par encore, mais � apourrais m'interress [09:13:47] interres� [09:13:55] il manque les tableaux [09:14:17] mais pourquoi ce syst�me d'�dition n'a pas �t� cr�er depuis le debut avec mediawiki ? [09:14:51] ychouchane: code du wiki, c'est très facile apprends [09:15:18] jubo2, je le connais, mais mes utilisateurs n'aime pas du tout [09:15:49] ychouchane: parse que c'est un problèmes difficile! le wikitexte est bcp plus flexible et c'est plus facile d'y ajouter de fonctionnalité [09:15:53] foobarbazyaga! [09:16:10] skalman12, ok [09:16:16] merci de vos r�posnes [09:16:43] ychouchane is looking for a good wysiwyg extension? does anybody have a recommendation for one that works well with e.g. tables? [09:22:07] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "found a boog" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17057 [09:22:36] New review: Liangent; "Re Nikerabbit:" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17785 [09:24:10] New patchset: Daniel Friesen; "Add support for HTML5/Microdata ,