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[00:01:21] [[w:WP:BOLD|be BOLD]] and do not hesitate to break the site! [00:01:30] ashley: Done. Keep an eye on https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/quips.cgi?action=show for the next few days [00:02:23] marktraceur: you're not a BZ admin? I somehow thought you were :-) [00:02:43] ashley: Nooo....just an average joe workin' nerd [00:03:10] ashley: You know what's surprising? I'm not a BZ admin. [00:03:25] They haven't even given me RT access yet, I'm clearly not tied into the WMF infrastructure [00:03:51] you know I'd support you both if such things were votes ;) [00:04:05] * marktraceur is flattered [00:04:05] It's mostly a matter of asking, I guess. [00:04:19] I don't usually see a need. Plus I'd probably rearrange everything one day. [00:04:22] And people wouldn't like that. [00:04:46] *nod* "people" of course being a very specific subset of people :) [00:04:50] (and I personally could've used BZ admin access a few times too, but thankfully some other folks have it and can get me the stuff I need to, y'know, manage this project ;) [00:05:06] anyone here good with js? [00:05:06] Brooke: just tell 'em that you did it for the lulz [00:05:35] Betacommand: whatcha need? (note that this isn't a "yes", but rather "I'm interested in hearing you out and seeing if I can help") [00:05:36] Betacommand: Just ask your question. [00:06:06] ashley: I need to have a gadget back ported to a 1.15.5 wiki [00:06:15] ashley: Right. Instead of having BZ access, I just file bugs and demand that others do the work. It works well sometimes. [00:06:45] Betacommand: 1) what gadget? and 2) WHYYYYYYYY would you do that instead of upgrading the said wiki or getting someone else to do that for you? :-( [00:07:24] ashley: Im in the process of getting it upgraded but the eta is ~3 months for the upgrade [00:07:39] ...how come? :-/ [00:08:05] ashley: lack of staff and limiting breakage [00:08:10] ashley: http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Gadget-markblocked.js [00:08:17] Brooke: eh, delegating tasks is fine, too, I just prefer to do most things myself instead of assigning 'em (-: [00:08:27] 03(mod) Upload Wizard should check for protection status of titles - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37107 +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [00:09:43] Betacommand: Are you looking for someone to do it for you, or for someone to help you with a specific problem? [00:09:51] (/me is OK with JS) [00:09:58] marktraceur: someone to do it [00:10:10] Well, sadly, I can't help you there [00:10:23] Betacommand: if the wiki doesn't have any batshit insane stuff (like overly complicated custom, closed source extensions and/or skins), upgrading shouldn't break it too much...then again "ordinary" DB corruption can happen, too, from what I've read...but you'd have to be like unluckier than me for that to happen, I hope [00:10:28] I'm in the middle of staring down the rest of my packing (big move tomorrow, fun stuff) [00:10:47] marktraceur: So "for name, func in pairs(ustring) do print (name) end" on scribunto.wmflabs.org returns content. [00:10:56] But on mediawiki.org, it errors. [00:10:57] wtfffff [00:11:13] And scribunto.wmflabs.org has some kind of u'foo' string support. [00:11:15] Betacommand: also being as lazy as I am, I'd probably include jQuery somehow (i.e. in [[MediaWiki:Common.js]] or somesuch) and then the gadget, but alas, there might be some loading order issues, not sure [00:11:16] Brooke: They probably got to the "ehhhh let's test in production" point [00:11:33] * marktraceur is totally kidding [00:11:46] Brooke: Might be that test2wiki has the latest, and they quit using the labs instance? [00:11:52] ashley: they have some custom skins, and things are being accelerated but we are still looking at fixing issues ~1-2 month debug then release [00:12:06] marktraceur: No idea. I don't even really care, I just want to make sure I'm filing bugs against the right damn version. [00:12:13] vvv: Is scribunto.wmflabs.org up to date, or is it no longer in use? [00:12:22] Brooke: What says Special:Version? [00:12:40] http://scribunto.wmflabs.org/index.php?title=Special:Version [00:12:52] https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Version [00:13:05] https://test2.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Version [00:13:20] ashley: its not being installed as a gadget per-see but rather as part of my monobook [00:13:21] Brooke: The labs instance is on a commit from 2012-07-14 [00:13:31] Somehow I think development has progressed since then [00:14:03] I'm not even sure pairs() is allowed now. [00:14:14] Which would bring me back to the "how do I dump a module's functions?" question. [00:14:40] Also, can someone add a note to the scribunto.wmflabs.org labs instance saying it's using an old version if that's the case... [00:15:27] ashley: any ideas how I could slip jquery into my monobook? [00:16:28] importScriptURI( 'url to jQuery on jQuery.com' ); but it's somewhat risky, as in it might fail to load [00:16:33] or you could try the old version, see http://ru.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Gadget-markblocked.js&diff=next&oldid=35069082 [00:16:46] marktraceur: have a sec? [00:16:50] Brooke: http://scribunto.wmflabs.org/index.php/Main_Page <-- feel free to make it nicer or more noticable or whatever [00:16:53] though Alex notes in the edit summary that "the old one is broken", so I dunno... [00:17:05] matanya: Possibly! What's up? [00:17:18] hi, thanks. can you please look at https://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%95%D7%95%D7%9C%D7%A4%D7%92%D7%A0%D7%92_%D7%94%D7%99%D7%99%D7%A0%D7%99%D7%92%D7%A8 [00:17:29] marktraceur: It needs a sitenotice. [00:17:51] matanya: I am now! [00:18:08] New patchset: Siebrand; "Maintenance for PageTriage extension." [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/21480 [00:18:12] and tell me why is the last section LTR'ed so weird? [00:18:36] 03(mod) Uploading stuck about 1-2 minutes on "Finished!" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34997 +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [00:18:37] matanya: The apparent "External Links" section? [00:18:49] the one above [00:18:58] marktraceur: no idea, I have no access there [00:19:26] marktraceur: it looks centered and RTL'ed [00:19:40] very weird layout [00:19:49] matanya: Do you want it to be left-aligned? [00:19:55] yes [00:20:15] matanya: You need to put the LTR div around the entire section, then, not just each list [00:20:27] New review: Siebrand; "Removing my -2. It didn't mean it didn't need review, just that I know there's a flaw in the db code..." [mediawiki/extensions/MoodBar] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/21034 [00:20:29] really? [00:20:36] ok, thanks [00:20:59] I think so [00:21:01] ashley: thanks the old version worked like a charm [00:21:24] Betacommand: awesome :D [00:22:01] 03(NEW) Note that scribunto.wmflabs.org is using an old/different version of Scribunto if that's the case - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39655 normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (b) [00:22:10] 03(mod) Note that scribunto.wmflabs.org is using an old/different version of Scribunto if that's the case - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39655 +easy (10MZMcBride) [00:22:24] makes keeping track of who has been blocked and who hasnt [01:06:26] 03(mod) Add support for URLs to mw.loader.using or callback to mw.loader.load - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/25962 +comment (10Krinkle) [01:16:52] 03(mod) Add Javanese font to WebFonts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39381 +comment (10bennylin) [01:17:32] 03(NEW) Creation of a new mailing list for Wikimedia Indigenous Languages, languages-l - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39656 normal; Wikimedia: Mailing lists; (lebo.beland) [01:20:03] 03(mod) Creation of a new mailing list for Wikimedia Indigenous Languages, languages-l - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39656 +comment (10Étienne Beaulé) [01:21:42] 03(mod) Creation of a new mailing list for Wikimedia Indigenous Languages, languages@ - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39656 normal->15enhancement; summary; +comment (10Thehelpfulone) [01:23:38] 03(mod) Don't process some items in Belarusian monuments lists - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39532 +comment (10Paul Selitskas) [01:40:18] 03(mod) UploadWizard should have more specific error message for files that contain HTML in the EXIF data - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30095 +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [01:48:11] enough for today. [01:49:14] thedj: Nice work today. :-) [01:53:33] Seconded! [01:56:50] marktraceur: i hope i shaved a couple of hours of debug work of the sprint of you guys. [01:57:39] What's the focus of the sprint? [01:57:43] thedj: I'm sure you did. Check your email! :) [01:57:51] Brooke: UploadWizard, for WLM [01:57:56] Ah. [01:58:00] Interesting. [01:59:31] marktraceur: if you sent anything to my @videolan address, then that will bounce. [01:59:51] * thedj remembers he needs to go fix his old dev mail accounts... [01:59:57] thedj: It was to wikitech-l, maybe you're not subscribed? [02:00:53] ah. no i am. just prefiltered. [02:01:06] i only read it twice a week or something. [02:01:32] What was I doing... [02:03:33] 03(NEW) Updating the database from 1.11 to 1.19 doesn't apply patch-log_user_text.sql - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39657 normal; MediaWiki: Database; (mah) [02:04:23] marktraceur: thx :D [02:05:04] My pleasure! :) [02:05:47] It helps keep the momentum up for that thread, which is also good in my opinion.... [02:08:47] Brooke: you were baking cookies for everyone one [02:08:58] I wish! [02:09:40] Can we vote on this? Cookies sounds amazing [02:13:54] 03(mod) Uploading stuck about 1-2 minutes on "Finished!" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34997 +comment (10Aaron Schulz) [02:35:35] 03(mod) Scribunto needs sane Unicode string support - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39646 +comment (10MZMcBride) [04:12:09] New patchset: Mwjames; "SRF jqplotseries, add tableview parameter" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/21481 [04:24:47] New patchset: Mwjames; "SRF jqplotseries, related messages for the tableview.js" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/21482 [04:33:07] New patchset: Mwjames; "SRF jqplotseries, add tableview parameter" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/21481 [05:09:31] 03(mod) CodeEditor extension's tab key behavior is slightly infuriating - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39649 +comment (10MZMcBride) [06:43:46] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual_talk:Short_URL said to come here to ask questions, but I've never used an IRC before, so I'm very warily feeling my way. [06:48:44] I have upgraded a wiki from 1.14 to 1.19.1, but in the process I'm trying to move it from the root folder to a sub-folder, but I'm having problems. Specifically, how do I make the server use the sub-folder? [06:49:29] PJR_: This sounds like a webserver configuration question, am I right? [06:49:41] Probably [06:49:47] (and by the way, welcome, you're doing awesome so far) [06:49:56] Thanks [06:50:13] PJR_: So let's start there, at the subdirectory of the problem: What webserver are you using? [06:50:46] Are you asking who the host is, what the software is, or what? [06:52:23] PJR_: The software, preferably [06:52:42] If you know, anyway [06:53:20] PJR_: If you use a graphical interface for configuring your webserver, I will be very unhelpful, sadly :/ [06:53:30] It's a Linux server, and it's a shared virtual server (or something like that). I do have the version of Linux listed somewhere, although it may take me a couple of minutes to find it. [06:53:34] hi [06:53:50] does uploadwizzard upload all files in one time? [06:54:15] Juandev: Yes and no. There's a concurrency config setting on the server, that sets the possible number of concurrent uploads. [06:54:25] Juandev: IIRC it's something like 3 files at a time by default [06:54:36] PJR_: No worries. [06:54:45] marktraceur: why? many users has a problem with that [06:55:01] I use CPanel mainly but have managed to use the command line in the past. [06:55:30] Juandev: Sorry, let me try to be more clear: You can upload any number, but the client will only ever be actively uploading data for three files at once [06:55:36] PJR_: its more than likely how you set your wiki to use the root folder setup in the first place in the localsettings.php [06:55:40] Juandev: It's a matter of server performance, mostly [06:55:43] marktraceur: I can see Google Drive now, which uploads one file at the time and then it goes to the second, third etc. That is probably more friedlier to end users [06:56:17] Juandev: We have a bug filed for a user preference, which would allow lower settings (but not higher ones) [06:56:31] So I suspect we'll solve it soon [06:56:36] I didn't mention that I didn't set the wiki up in the first place. I had someone do that for me, but they are no longer available to me. [06:56:45] marktraceur: great [06:56:49] !moving [06:56:49] For help about moving pages, see . For help about moving wikis, see . [06:56:58] PJR_: ^ may be helpful [06:57:03] no it wont be [06:57:29] * Juandev spend yeasterday 2 hours on images for Commons, but than clicked in Commonist to wrong place and all two hour work was lost [06:57:40] Oof, that's rough [06:57:45] PJR_: Can you paste your localsettings.php somewhere with any usernames and passwords striped? [06:58:04] that s-s [06:58:30] so I wonder there is no easy and secure way to upload also for slow bandwitch [06:58:30] !pastebin | PJR_ [06:58:30] PJR_: Please do not paste more than 2-3 lines of text into the channel as it disrupts the flow of conversation. When sharing multiple lines of code, please use a pastebin such as or and post a link to your paste in the channel. [06:59:27] Juandev: Maybe not :( we're working on it, though! [06:59:42] I'll try to make it a priority, hopefully it gets through [07:00:08] marktraceur: thats great. than I dont need to look for coder who would add some security to Commonist [07:02:01] Yeah, I can probably do that. But perhaps before we go there, I should point out that I haven't removed the old version yet. I did remove (almost) everything from the root folder (except sub-folders), but that caused an error so I put it back, so that the Wiki would still be on-line while I'm sorting this out. [07:02:17] Juandev: I guess that's one other option, but yeah, let's try to avoid it :/ [07:02:41] !g I9f9ca62f [07:02:41] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#q,I9f9ca62f,n,z [07:02:48] (ignore that safely) [07:09:03] * Juandev moves to train station [07:09:26] 03(NEW) "Translate" tab is selected even in "Review all" task - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39658 minor; MediaWiki extensions: Translate; (federicoleva) [07:09:39] I've posted it at http://dpaste.com/791657/ [07:13:42] marktraceur: By the way, it's nothing to do with moving a page, and the other article is about moving to another server, not to another folder. [07:14:23] PJR_: I suppose. I didn't look at it too closely, just took a shot in the dark there :) [07:15:10] PJR_: So your situation is, you have two copies of this wiki, one in the root directory of your webserver and one in a subdirectory? [07:15:20] Yes [07:15:36] PJR_: And you're accessing the subdirectory how, exactly? [07:16:07] (you can leave out the hostname, I'd like the absolute path like /path/to/wiki/index.php) [07:16:31] That's the problem! Well, I can access it by specifically typing the subdirectory name in the URL, but the problem is getting there without having to do that. [07:17:18] The path is /wiki/index.php [07:18:15] There is also a /index.php (the old one). I can remove that, but it doesn't then automatically go to the new one (at /wiki/index.php). [07:18:57] PJR_: OK, you need to set up either an Alias or a Redirect [07:19:06] Probably, yes. [07:19:17] Let me find our docs on the matter [07:19:28] I've been playing around with .htaccess, but I can't get anything to work. [07:19:35] Oh, it's short URLs, right? You linked there earlier. [07:19:45] Can you pastebin the htaccess work you've done so far? [07:19:55] PJR_, What is the article path you are trying to setup? [07:22:01] I will want short URLs, but the main problem is getting to the /wiki/index.php in the first place, in a way that works properly. I've pasted it to http://dpaste.com/791659/. Explanation following... [07:22:55] Ah ok, your article path is /w/Article [07:23:23] I've tried a few combinations; what I've posted is the last one. The commented-out lines at the top are (currently) active, for the old wiki. I've tried deactivating them and activating the bottom ones, but without success. Complete success at least. [07:23:59] The actual path is /wiki/Article. I tried that instead of /w/ as well in .htaccess, but my last try was /w/ [07:24:16] Don't do /wiki/Article + /wiki/index.php [07:24:43] What wen't wrong? [07:24:58] DanielFriesen: I don't know what you mean. Do you mean that the actual path can be /wiki/ but the short path /w/? [07:25:46] You can have /w/index.php and /wiki/Article or you can have /wiki/index.php and /w/Article [07:26:13] Just NEVER use the same subdirectory path for both your article path and script path. [07:26:49] DanielFriesen: He needs to set up a permanent redirect (301?) from / to /wiki/index.php [07:27:59] That last rule should do that… though it looks like the two index.php locations are mismatched [07:28:48] I think I had them matched on earlier attempts. [07:29:06] "What went wrong?" [07:30:52] What went wrong depended on what thing I tried, and I forget all the details now. Sometimes it was just server error messages. I'm happy to point you to the site and make adjustments and tell you (or you can see) step by step. [07:33:35] Ping me when you do… I'm switching back and forth between avideo [07:36:38] DanielFriesen: In those mismatched lines, which way should I set the .htaccess? /wiki/ (the actual path) or /w/? [07:37:22] /wiki/index.php [07:41:02] New patchset: Amire80; "Adding language presence by territory to langdb" [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/21262 [07:45:07] DanielFriesen: That works, actually. I'm sure I tried that, but perhaps not with localsettings.php the way it is now. Now how can I get a short URL with that (please)? [07:47:41] (Actually navpopups is not working, but perhaps I need to reconfigure that.) [07:47:46] ? [07:52:13] DanielFriesen: The URL has "?title=" in it. localsettings.php has: $wgArticlePath = "{$wgScript}?title=$1"; Anything I change this to causes a 'not found' error. [07:53:48] MW extracts the title from the REQUEST_URI itself so if you don't have $wgArticlePath set to /w/$1 then it will not understand what the title is. [07:54:01] Easiest to show me the wiki [07:55:22] DanielFriesen: http://www.astorehouseofknowledge.info/?title=Main_Page [07:57:24] You still haven't set wgArticlePath to /w/$1 [07:58:03] DanielFriesen: No, I didn't realise you wanted me to do that before you looked. I'll do it now. [07:58:28] Also $wgArticlePath = "?title=$1" without a starting / will lead you to nothing but trouble since it's relative ;) [08:02:52] DanielFriesen: That didn't work: "Redirect loop detected!" I tried both "/w/$1" and "{$wgScript}/w/$1". The error message mentions "check your LocalSettings.php for a customized $wgArticlePath setting and/or toggle $wgUsePathInfo to true." Do I need to do the latter? The error is still there if you want to look. [08:03:07] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "[JobQueue] Job queue refactoring and generalizing." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13194 [08:04:06] phpsapi="cgi" yup [08:04:31] Next version of mw though it won't be required anymore. [08:05:19] This page: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/$wgArticlePath says that "{$wgScript}?title=$1" (no leading /) is an option, for what it's worth. [08:06:31] PJR_, Tha's because $wgScript is supposed to be the path to your index.php including a script path [08:07:00] But it's false at the time you set the variable [08:08:32] DanielFriesen: $wgScriptPath = "/wiki"; Should that have a / at the end? [08:08:44] Nope [08:15:37] New patchset: Adamw; "Basic cmake scripts." [mediawiki/extensions/Parsoid] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/21484 [08:15:57] DanielFriesen: So what should $wgScriptPath be set to? Is it correct, or not? [08:20:56] Change abandoned: Adamw; "Setting premake4 scripts aside for now, back to the future with cmake instead ;)" [mediawiki/extensions/Parsoid] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/21179 [08:37:42] 03(mod) Don't process some items in Belarusian monuments lists - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39532 +comment (10Effeietsanders) [08:39:53] 03(mod) Enable extension to provide metadata support on Wikimedia Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/17503 (10Daniel Kinzler) [08:39:53] 03(mod) Merge the Wikidata ContentHandler branch - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38622 (10Daniel Kinzler) [08:41:29] DanielFriesen: ? Anyone? [08:43:23] Hallo. I'm trying to install Parsoid and VisualEditor for testing and keep getting a "timeout" error when I try to edit. [08:46:58] 03(mod) Enable extension to provide metadata support on Wikimedia Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/17503 +comment (10Nemo_bis) [08:47:00] aharoni: Where is the error? In the Parsoid service, or on the client side, or in the MW logs, or....? [08:47:10] client-side. [08:47:21] I guess that it has something to do with my localsettings.js. [08:47:25] aharoni: And the parsoid service is running? [08:47:28] yes. [08:47:37] Hm [08:47:38] it runs in the terminal. [08:47:55] It says "starting parsing of VisualEditor:RTL" in the terminal where it runs. [08:48:03] hello, my question: how to add a own group to site protect list? there is only admins, registered users and new users. I want to add an own group there so that this group and admins may only edit the page [08:48:06] (VisualEditor:RTL is the correct page name) [08:48:18] it says it when I try to edit. [08:48:38] but after a few seconds the browser gives a 'timeout' error. [08:48:59] aharoni: And presumably you have wgVisualEditorParsoidURL set [08:49:48] TwinglyTingly: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:User_rights_management [08:50:11] yes, i added a group with protect and editprotected to the settings [08:50:21] marktraceur: yes, $wgVisualEditorParsoidURL = 'http://localhost:8000/'; [08:50:28] but the group isn't listed on the protect page [08:50:41] aharoni: All right, can you pastebin the localsettings you have set up? [08:51:30] marktraceur, before that: it's supposed to be in extensions/Parsoid/js/api, right? [08:52:01] Yup [08:55:10] marktraceur: solved it :) - the URL there was wrong. [08:55:26] Yay! More Parsoid for all. [08:55:31] aharoni: Have fun! [08:56:19] TwinglyTingly: how do you expect it to be listed? [08:56:53] aharoni, that was my question. needs it to be listed or may users edit all the protected pages which are protected to admins? [09:00:47] TwinglyTingly: i'm not a big permissions expert, but as far as I recall, the page protection doesn't say anything clear about that. [09:01:02] hm ok [09:01:26] TwinglyTingly: just try creating an account with the permissions that you want to test and see if it works as intended. You can edit the system messages that appear on the page protection form. [09:01:37] so that they will reflect the settings of your wiki to the users. [09:01:44] another questions is the group bureaucrat. it says this group may edit permissions. but permissions are only edited with the localsettings.php? [09:01:49] thanks aharoni [09:02:36] bureaucrats can add users to (some) groups. the groups are defined in LocalSettings.php. [09:02:49] where is the page to do this? [09:03:24] Special:UserRights [09:04:08] you can also tweak your LocalSettings.php to allow users in other groups to add other users (or themselves) to groups. [09:04:25] the bureaucrat group is just a convenient default. [09:04:36] ah ok [09:04:59] for the first time the management of mediawiki is confusing, but I'm getting to it :) [09:05:13] TwinglyTingly: it was born on Wikipedia some years ago, and even in Wikipedia it already changed. it is even quite different in Wikipedias in different languages. [09:07:28] yeah the system is really great, but a real management layer would be nice. where is the donate button to donate money to the thank-you box for coffee and cookies? :) so the devs may add a backend [09:10:06] TwinglyTingly: to donate to MediaWiki developers? that's https://donate.wikimedia.org/ . Or to donate to the admins of your wiki? :) [09:11:09] i am an admin in my wiki, I am new to this system and management in that way. too spoiled of fancy ajax backends and so :) [09:11:43] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "[FileBackend] Reduced stat calls when using the multiwrite backend." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/21485 [09:13:25] marktraceur: do you know anything about the C++ Parsoid thing? is it just in early development, or is it actually used anywhere? [09:13:41] i supposed that it's not used, because I am able to edit without building it, but maybe I'm missing something. [09:14:01] (able to edit is a euphemism :) ) [09:16:06] 03(NEW) Switch to filter out subpages from Special:UncategorizedPages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39659 enhancement; MediaWiki: Special pages; (federicoleva) [09:16:29] aharoni: Yeah, it's not used yet, we're going to port to C++ soonish is my understanding [09:16:38] I'm sort of in project limbo still, sadly :) [09:17:06] I know gwicke is impatient, but I have another week with UploadWizard and possibly more time with other projects depending on other things. [09:17:23] All of a sudden, I became very popular 'round the office :P [09:17:36] Aaaanyway. Sleep time. [09:18:04] 03(mod) Uncategorized categories/pages/templates/files refactoring - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/12942 summary (10Nemo_bis) [09:18:25] New patchset: Amire80; "Update .gitignore and localsettings.js example" [mediawiki/extensions/Parsoid] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/21486 [09:19:20] hey [09:19:45] i have a strange problem with the vector skin and css changes [09:20:08] i made some changes, but it still loads the old css via the "load.php?[...]" [09:20:21] do i have to clear a cache or something? [09:20:29] New patchset: Amire80; "Removed Parsoid-related files from .gitignore" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/21487 [09:20:29] i dont have any additional caching plugins [09:24:06] 03(NEW) List all uncategorized pages (from all namespaces) on Special:UncategorizedPages or elsewhere - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39660 enhancement; MediaWiki: Special pages; (federicoleva) [09:24:06] 03(mod) Switch to filter out subpages from Special:UncategorizedPages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39659 (10Nemo_bis) [09:24:09] 03(mod) Uncategorized categories/pages/templates/files refactoring - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/12942 (10Nemo_bis) [09:24:59] New patchset: saper; "Maintenance for extension SyntaxHighlight_GeSHi." [mediawiki/extensions/SyntaxHighlight_GeSHi] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/20219 [09:36:03] 03(mod) List all uncategorized pages (from all namespaces) on Special:UncategorizedPages or elsewhere - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39660 (10Nemo_bis) [09:36:04] 03(mod) Possibility to include pages with only hidden categories in Special:UncategorizedPages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28145 (10Nemo_bis) [09:36:10] 03(NEW) Query pages improvements (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39661 enhancement; MediaWiki: Special pages; (federicoleva) [09:36:11] 03(mod) Querypage shouldn't use LIMIT for paging but "title >= x AND namespace >= y" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/4699 (10Nemo_bis) [09:36:12] 03(mod) Uncategorized categories/pages/templates/files refactoring - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/12942 (10Nemo_bis) [09:36:13] 03(mod) Optimize query in Special Unusedcategories & Special Mostlinkedcategories by using category table - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/13577 (10Nemo_bis) [09:36:14] 03(mod) Special:WantedPages should use simpler query so it can be enabled again - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/14786 (10Nemo_bis) [09:36:20] 03(mod) Periodical run of currently disabled special pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/15434 (10Nemo_bis) [09:36:23] 03(mod) Special:Fewestrevisions has a very expensive query that filesorts and uses a temporary table - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27938 (10Nemo_bis) [09:36:24] 03(mod) List all uncategorized pages (from all namespaces) on Special:UncategorizedPages or elsewhere - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39660 (10Nemo_bis) [09:37:37] 03(mod) Query pages improvements (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39661 +tracking (10Nemo_bis) [09:37:38] 03(mod) Tracking bug (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/2007 (10Nemo_bis) [09:38:00] New review: saper; "I have uploaded a rebased change (the diff to master said we want to downgrade GeShi)." [mediawiki/extensions/SyntaxHighlight_GeSHi] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/20219 [09:38:26] O_o [09:48:29] New review: Edokter; "No problems found in Gimp, Irfan, IE and Chrome. Spinner.gif could be reduced to 16 colors to save e..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/21407 [10:05:08] 03(mod) Scribunto needs sane Unicode string support - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39646 +comment (10Tim Starling) [10:14:18] 03(mod) Gender neutral for undisclosed gender - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39594 +comment (10Siebrand) [10:14:42] New review: saper; "Is this file in use at all?" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/21406 [10:18:51] 03(NEW) Allow -webkit-filter CSS - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39662 normal; MediaWiki: Parser; (yyairrand) [10:20:50] 03(FIXED) Picture doesn't appear any longer - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36810 +comment (10Kipmaster) [10:21:09] New review: Siebrand; "@saper: these error messages are used as part of the content. Using user language would pollute the ..." [mediawiki/extensions/SyntaxHighlight_GeSHi] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/20219 [10:36:46] New patchset: saper; "optimize ../images/spinner.gif, ajax-loader.gif" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/21407 [10:37:25] New review: saper; "Uploaded 4bpp version of spinner.gif" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/21407 [10:39:36] Hi¨ [10:40:11] Someone can help me, I search if there is an IP loggings log [10:40:40] Because someone try to reset the admin password of my Wiki [10:40:50] with an e-mail send [10:42:10] I i want to catch him Ip [10:51:52] 03(NEW) Extensions should have possibility to issue messages in the user interface language without touching content - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39663 enhancement; MediaWiki: Internationalization; (marcin.cieslak) [10:52:58] New review: saper; "I agree that this change is not about changing this, so I have filed bug 39663 to discuss futher:" [mediawiki/extensions/SyntaxHighlight_GeSHi] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/20219 [11:03:33] 03(mod) Not receiving Wikipedia email notfications - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39298 +comment (10Sumurai8 (NL)) [11:04:09] 03(mod) Not receiving Wikipedia email notfications - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39298 +comment (10Sumurai8 (NL)) [11:07:26] 03(mod) Enable the New Pages Feed feature on en.WS - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38512 +comment (10Oliver Keyes) [11:07:42] 03(mod) Enable the New Pages Feed feature on en.WS - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38512 (10Oliver Keyes) [11:14:55] Any bugzilla admins around? MediaWiki product is missing 1.19.1 version [11:28:41] Krenair: Will add. [11:29:43] Krenair: done [11:30:00] high traffic weekend it seems. [11:30:31] New patchset: Siebrand; "Localisation updates from http://translatewiki.net." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/21488 [11:32:25] 03(mod) Parsing differences between [[MediaWiki:Recentchangestext]] and [[Special:RecentChanges]] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39617 (10duplicatebug) [11:35:40] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/21488 [11:35:50] 03(NEW) A single vote confirms a bug - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39664 normal; Wikimedia: Bugzilla; (krenair) [11:55:52] New patchset: Siebrand; "Localisation updates from http://translatewiki.net." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/21489 [11:59:28] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/21489 [12:35:55] * domas giggles at api.php [12:36:14] ? [12:36:36] 03(mod) Parsing differences between [[MediaWiki:Recentchangestext]] and [[Special:RecentChanges]] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39617 (10mybugs.mail) [12:36:56] 03(mod) ":" indent markup fails if paragraph is to the right of an image - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/11782 +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [12:37:30] platonides: makeGeneratorList [12:37:46] platonides: it loads all files/classes just because it wants to check their parent [12:37:50] hardcoding ftw :) [12:39:11] New patchset: Siebrand; "Localisation updates from http://translatewiki.net." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/21490 [12:39:19] platonides: http://i.imgur.com/Mf22X.png [12:41:51] New review: Siebrand; "Merge per Robin's +1." [mediawiki/extensions/LanguageSelector] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/20742 [12:41:51] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/LanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/20742 [12:43:01] New review: Siebrand; "Merge per saper's +1." [mediawiki/extensions/SyntaxHighlight_GeSHi] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/20219 [12:43:02] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/SyntaxHighlight_GeSHi] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/20219 [12:44:00] New review: Siebrand; "Merge per Jeroen's +1." [mediawiki/extensions/NewUserMessage] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/20821 [12:44:00] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/NewUserMessage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/20821 [12:44:04] 03(NEW) ApiQuery->makeGeneratorList autoloads all query classes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39665 normal; MediaWiki: API; (domas.mituzas) [12:45:04] ^^ [12:45:10] New review: Siebrand; "This is not basically Alexandre's patch, so approving." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/21174 [12:45:10] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/21174 [12:45:27] domas, that would be cached very easily [12:45:38] New review: Siebrand; "I of course meant to approve with: This is now basically Alexandre's patch, so approving." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/21174 [12:45:54] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/21490 [12:46:09] where? [12:46:13] source files? sure! [12:46:26] $cache = array(prepopulated.. :) [12:47:24] platonides: I just built qcachegrind \o/ [12:47:33] was missing it for a while [12:49:15] (it is stripped down version of kcachegrind that needs just Qt4, works awesome with qt4-aqua :) [12:51:24] :) [12:55:13] * domas kicks Skin->bottomScripts9) [12:56:05] New review: Matmarex; "I went with 32 colors, because with 16 I could notice the colors slightly changing in GIMP; the diff..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/21407 [12:56:30] lots of work to do nothing on my instance :) [12:58:46] New patchset: Matmarex; "optimize ../images/spinner.gif, ajax-loader.gif" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/21407 [13:04:14] 03(mod) Scribunto needs sane Unicode string support - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39646 +comment (10MZMcBride) [13:07:43] New review: Matmarex; "You added two unnecessary byte-order-marks to the files. Their presence may cause all sorts of issue..." [mediawiki/extensions/Narayam] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16272 [13:09:15] would have... [13:09:20] It's too early to be commenting on Bugzilla. [13:10:41] 03(mod) Followup to bug 11374 - tweaks to mediawiki.action.history.diff.css - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35923 +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger) [13:14:46] 03(mod) Review and deploy Score extension on Wikimedia Cluster - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33193 +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger) [13:16:28] 03(mod) Periodical run of currently disabled special pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/15434 minor->major; +comment (10DavidL) [13:16:53] New patchset: Chughakshay16; "Minor modifications" [mediawiki/extensions/ConventionExtension] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/21474 [13:30:52] New patchset: Chughakshay16; "Minor modifications" [mediawiki/extensions/ConventionExtension] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/21474 [13:37:18] 03(mod) ":" indent markup fails if paragraph is to the right of an image - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/11782 +comment (10Erwin Dokter) [13:51:46] New review: saper; "What I liked in the old broken implementation that I could have both preview and show diff at the sa..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/21296 [14:05:02] New patchset: Matmarex; "(bug 39273) add diff support to LivePreview" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/21296 [14:07:20] New review: Matmarex; "Whitespace fixed." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/21296 [14:10:55] New review: saper; "Works for me." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/21296 [14:16:04] 03(NEW) Consider having both edit preview and diff on the same page w/experimental js preview - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39666 enhancement; MediaWiki: JavaScript; (marcin.cieslak) [14:16:04] 03(mod) Live preview (requires JavaScript) feature bugs (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39272 (10Marcin Cieślak) [14:24:19] http://scribunto.wmflabs.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&action=edit [14:24:30] saper: Where are the tabs at the top of the textarea considered? [14:24:33] I kind of like those. [14:24:38] But I'm confused about all the naming. [14:24:44] And what's experimental and what's not. [14:30:06] Brooke: i think this is a completely different feature [14:30:20] is seems to be a part of WikiEditor, and disabled on most (all?) wikis [14:30:28] Oh, really? [14:30:30] Well, [14:30:39] saper and I were taking about the LivePreview feature you can enable in preferences [14:30:45] it's kinda nice. Though I'm not sure if it makes the buttons below the textarea redundant. [14:30:58] Yeah, I think I've played with that as well. [14:31:04] I doubt that's going anywhere. [14:31:08] LivePreview [14:31:11] Brooke: special:preferences, Editing, "Use live preview (requires JavaScript) (experimental)" [14:31:22] Isn't it like a retarded version of what VisualEditor is supposed to be one day? [14:31:26] Right. [14:31:59]