[00:07:43] ashley: sorry to bother you, but I more or less copied the method of the Nimbus skin and I can't get it to work [00:07:53] here's what I did: http://dpaste.com/794969/plain/ [00:08:52] and then the corresponding addModuleScripts() and addModuleStyles() [00:10:00] but nothing seems to be loaded [00:10:05] no errors either [00:16:19] Change abandoned: Parent5446; "(no reason)" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22166 [00:25:49] New review: Spage; "I don't know what a CT UDP dgram looks like, but judging from clicktracking logs on stat1 I think th..." [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22329 [00:37:23] New review: Parent5446; "The goal should be to eventually get rid of wfParseUrl and the related functions and use the Uri cla..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22167 [00:58:13] 03(mod) i18n updates should be fetched periodically - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39876 summary (10Brion Vibber) [00:58:45] New review: Daniel Friesen; "A protocol should not have to be added to $wgUrlProtocols to work. Sanitization of user inputted url..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22167 [01:03:50] 03(mod) WikiBook page/chapter configuration tools/API not working on Mac - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39827 +comment (10Brion Vibber) [01:04:20] 03(mod) WikiBook page/chapter configuration tools/API not working on Mac - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39827 +comment (10Brion Vibber) [01:17:58] is there guidance on when to use importScript() vs ResourceLoader? [01:21:34] okay, for anyone following, I solved my problem with ResourceLoader when inserting scripts... my problem was that I was editing the $wgResourceModules in the skin file, and that's not loaded from load.php, so it doesn't find it [01:22:21] I created a dummy extension that fills this array with the needed paths, and then did the addModuleScripts() in the skin [01:23:11] New review: Parent5446; "Don't look at me for that. I literally copied and pasted wfParseUrl() into the Uri class. In reality..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22167 [01:52:24] 03(NEW) Windows 8 app: use RTL column layout for RTL languages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39903 normal; Wikipedia App: Localization/Translation/Language; (brion) [01:54:33] New review: Anomie; "Code looks fine for what it is, but the extension seems to have bigger issues. At a quick glance, fo..." [mediawiki/extensions/ConfirmEdit] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22039 [01:57:28] 03(NEW) Windows 8 app: title not normalized when loaded from search - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39904 normal; Wikipedia App: Search; (brion) [02:05:06] 03(NEW) Enable 'editinterface' flag on ptwikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39905 normal; Wikimedia: Site configuration; (rogerlima) [02:05:20] 03(mod) Enable 'editinterface' flag on ptwikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39905 (10Roger Lima) [02:07:38] 03(NEW) Special:Booksources ISBN links show blank - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39906 normal; Wikipedia App: Generic; (brion) [02:08:33] 03(mod) Special:Booksources ISBN links show blank - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39906 +comment (10Brion Vibber) [02:09:56] New review: Anomie; "Minor nitpicks, but nothing serious enough that it shouldn't be merged." [mediawiki/extensions/ConfirmEdit] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16872 [02:14:40] New review: Daniel Friesen; "Ok, looks like we'll have to revisit how we actually parse URIs in general and fix our incorrect han..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22167 [02:18:03] New review: Anomie; "Code looks straightforward, but the commit summary needs fixing." [mediawiki/extensions/ConfirmEdit] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12179 [02:28:01] New review: Anomie; "But **please** don't rebase and make actual changes in the same patchset! What you should do is subm..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7986 [02:28:35] 03(FIXED) Windows 8 app: back button should use native WinJS button with stock icon - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39812 +comment (10Brion Vibber) [02:28:37] 03(mod) Enable 'editinterface' flag on ptwikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39905 (10mybugs.mail) [02:47:44] Jasper_Deng_sick: You pinged? [02:47:58] Brooke: If I did so, it was yesterday [02:48:03] Probably. [02:48:04] * Jasper_Deng_sick likely forgot [02:54:11] 03(FIXED) Windows 8 app: include higher-resolution "W" generic background icon - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39810 +comment (10Brion Vibber) [03:06:39] New review: Parent5446; "Totally agreed on this. I was actually in the midst of working on something like this anyway. Right ..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22167 [04:01:16] New review: Daniel Friesen; "The URI spec is highly abstract and doesn't really even define query format with any strictness. It'..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22167 [04:13:02] Change abandoned: Ross Andrews; "Sorry, I haven't thought about this in a while. Let's just abandon this change, it's not that useful." [mediawiki/extensions/Scribunto] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9882 [04:55:50] New review: Aaron Schulz; "Seems to match expandAttributes() docs." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22287 [04:55:51] Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22287 [04:56:12] Change abandoned: Aaron Schulz; "Warnings gone already." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22292 [05:05:55] Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22300 [05:51:39] 03(mod) WikiBook page/chapter configuration tools/API not working on Mac - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39827 (10cs) [06:29:22] New review: Ori.livneh; "BTW: this will run on vanadium, not emery. emery is already streaming ClickTracking UDP traffic to v..." [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22329 [07:33:39] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "Added @since to new function." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22360 [07:34:29] Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22360 [08:17:17] 03(NEW) Dates for uploaded files - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39907 minor; WikiLoves Monuments Mobile: Upload; (wiki) [08:23:39] 03(mod) Adm1 doesn't contain ISO codes for Serbia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39895 +comment (10elya) [09:01:09] Change merged: IAlex; [mediawiki/extensions/wikihiero] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22307 [09:05:27] 03(mod) Adm1 doesn't contain ISO codes for Serbia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39895 +comment (10elya) [09:21:28] New review: Siebrand; "Per IAlex." [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22274 [09:23:00] Hi! Is it possible to mark files as patrolled? By default, it seems, only articles and other pages can be marked as patrolled, but no files. [09:31:43] New patchset: Siebrand; "Update documentation and deprecated methods." [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22274 [09:32:09] New review: Siebrand; "PS2 fixes merge conflicts." [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22274 [09:34:43] New review: Siebrand; "Per IAlex." [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22274 [09:34:43] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22274 [09:39:53] New review: Siebrand; "Yes, most probably. Adding Antoine as reviewer." [mediawiki/extensions/TitleBlacklist] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22342 [10:13:20] 03(ASSIGNED) Adm1 doesn't contain ISO codes for Serbia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39895 +comment (10Maarten Dammers) [10:50:25] Hi. I'm running MediaWiki stack v1.19.1 Is there a way to turn off the spellchecker on the edit page other than editing EditPage.php? [10:51:37] There isn't one built in, That would be your web browser or another application providing it [10:52:11] I see. Thanks and bye. [10:52:28] * yuvipanda wonders about writing a userscript/gadget to make wikieditor use codemirror [10:52:35] but I think I should port something to Lua first [10:59:10] Maybe now somebody is here who knows if it is possible to mark files as patrolled. By default, it seems, only articles and other pages can be marked as patrolled, but no files. [11:07:37] New review: Amire80; "This may become relevant in the future, but currently the Uri class cannot be used because of change..." [mediawiki/extensions/TranslationNotifications] (master); V: -1 C: -2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/20496 [11:07:40] New patchset: Siebrand; "Maintenance for AbuseFilter extension." [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22361 [11:13:28] New patchset: Siebrand; "Remove use of deprecated methods." [mediawiki/extensions/TranslationNotifications] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/20496 [11:13:55] New review: Siebrand; "PS3: Removed the Uri class related updates." [mediawiki/extensions/TranslationNotifications] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/20496 [11:16:44] Change merged: Amire80; [mediawiki/extensions/TranslationNotifications] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/20496 [11:20:07] New patchset: Siebrand; "Maintenance for AntiBot extension." [mediawiki/extensions/AntiBot] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22362 [11:27:48] 03(NEW) Update jQuery to 1.8.1 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39908 major; MediaWiki: JavaScript; (steefy389) [11:40:41] New patchset: Amire80; "Improvements for CLDR-based language presence" [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/21856 [11:42:02] New patchset: Siebrand; "Maintenance for AntiSpoof extension." [mediawiki/extensions/AntiSpoof] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22363 [11:47:35] 03(mod) Inconsistent state within the internal storage backends - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39221 +comment (10Yann Forget) [12:27:13] New patchset: Siebrand; "More maintenance for ConfirmEdit extension." [mediawiki/extensions/ConfirmEdit] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22364 [12:39:32] 03(mod) Inconsistent state within the internal storage backends - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39221 +comment (10Yann Forget) [12:45:14] 03(mod) Inconsistent state within the internal storage backends - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39221 (10Maarten Dammers) [12:45:14] 03(mod) The big Wiki Loves Monuments 2012 tracking bug - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38648 (10Maarten Dammers) [12:49:04] 03(mod) No history for upload campaigns - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30645 +comment (10Tomasz W. Kozłowski) [12:50:07] 03(mod) No history for upload campaigns - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30645 (10Tomasz W. Kozłowski) [12:52:35] 03(mod) No history for upload campaigns - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30645 +comment (10Basvb) [12:52:43] New patchset: Hashar; "(bug 39908) jQuery 1.8.1" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22365 [12:52:54] 03(mod) Update jQuery to 1.8.1 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39908 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [13:08:05] could somebody review and possibly merge https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/22304/ and its dependency? earlier commit (https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/18234/) introduced a semi-regression where LivePreview spinner would look weird when creating a new article [13:10:40] 14(INVALID) Parsing differences between [[MediaWiki:Recentchangestext]] and [[Special:RecentChanges]] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39617 +comment (10Erwin Dokter) [13:14:18] 03(mod) Adm1 doesn't contain ISO codes for Serbia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39895 +comment (10elya) [13:26:07] Wheeee [13:26:11] More failing qunit tests [13:26:34] Due to api changes.. [13:27:17] * MatmaRex needs somebody who reviews JavaScript, stat. [13:27:39] New review: Reedy; "All qunit tests still pass, merging in as point release/bugfix" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22365 [13:27:40] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22365 [13:35:04] New patchset: Reedy; "(bug 39908) jQuery 1.8.1" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf10) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22366 [13:35:26] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf10) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22366 [13:42:40] 03(NEW) mediawiki.user: getGroups broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39909 normal; MediaWiki: JavaScript; (sam) [13:43:06] 03(mod) Update jQuery to 1.8.1 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39908 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [13:59:43] marktraceur: "What should I do after I've uploaded the images? There's no clear guide on how to proceed further." [14:00:03] marktraceur: it seems that with chrome 21, after upload, sometimes the next button is missing. [14:10:36] New patchset: Reedy; "Fix max(-1) is smaller than min(0) warning" [mediawiki/extensions/ConfirmEdit] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22039 [14:11:32] Hi, isn't there any wysiwyg extension for 1.19? [14:11:58] no [14:12:04] :s [14:43:56] New review: Matmarex; "Nice." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16848 [14:51:14] 03(mod) Spam from mediawiki-cvs-bounces - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37690 +comment (10Thehelpfulone) [14:56:03] 03(mod) Spam from mediawiki-cvs-bounces - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37690 +comment (10Siebrand) [15:00:38] 03(NEW) Template call as headerLabelPage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39910 normal; MediaWiki extensions: UploadWizard; (Platonides) [15:03:08] 03(mod) Template call as headerLabelPage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39910 (10Platonides) [15:03:09] 03(mod) UploadWizard: Wiki Loves Monuments contest issues (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37144 (10Platonides) [15:03:27] 03(NEW) Accept wikitext in idFieldLabelPage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39911 normal; MediaWiki extensions: UploadWizard; (Platonides) [15:03:28] 03(mod) UploadWizard: Wiki Loves Monuments contest issues (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37144 (10Platonides) [15:18:44] New patchset: Siebrand; "Maintenance for SimpleAntiSpam extension." [mediawiki/extensions/SimpleAntiSpam] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22368 [15:30:55] hi Jarry1250 [15:31:12] Hey Nikerabbit :) [15:33:09] oooo Jarry1250! [15:33:31] Nikerabbit: Where are we on merge #3? Anything need from me? [15:33:36] Hey Yuvi [15:34:12] I actually had a little helper function already written for pushes [15:34:29] *posts [15:34:30] Jarry1250: sweet! [15:34:38] oh, posts? [15:34:39] as in? [15:34:44] POSTs [15:34:59] ah [15:35:17] Jarry1250: it hits *after* everything's been updated, right? [15:36:47] Yuvi: At the moment, literally after everything else of importance [15:37:06] I can change that, naturally, but that's the status quo. [15:40:32] Jarry1250: mm I'l do it tomorrow after new wmf branch is branched [15:42:06] New patchset: Siebrand; "Maintenance for SpamBlacklist extension." [mediawiki/extensions/SpamBlacklist] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22369 [15:42:26] Nikerabbit: Cool, I'll try to be around in case you need someone to blame. [15:50:18] 03(ASSIGNED) Enable 'editinterface' flag on ptwikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39905 +comment (10Dereckson) [15:51:45] could somebody review and possibly merge https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/22304/ and its dependency? earlier commit (https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/18234/) introduced a semi-regression where LivePreview spinner would look weird when creating a new article [15:55:52] 03(mod) Enable 'editinterface' flag on ptwikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39905 +comment (10Dereckson) [15:57:06] 03(mod) WikiBook page/chapter configuration tools/API not working on Mac - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39827 (10magnus) [16:11:10] 03(mod) Enable 'editinterface' flag on ptwikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39905 +comment (10Dereckson) [16:14:28] 03(ASSIGNED) server could not get a preview thumbnail - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39901 +comment (10Dereckson) [16:21:11] New patchset: Siebrand; "Maintenance for TorBlock extension." [mediawiki/extensions/TorBlock] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22371 [16:28:49] New patchset: Siebrand; "Maintenance for ApiSandbox extension." [mediawiki/extensions/ApiSandbox] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22372 [16:32:15] 03(FIXED) Adm1 doesn't contain ISO codes for Serbia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39895 (10Maarten Dammers) [16:38:23] New patchset: Siebrand; "Maintenance for AssertEdit extension." [mediawiki/extensions/AssertEdit] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22373 [16:43:58] New review: Anomie; "Still the issue of different counting, but I suppose that can be a matter for a different patchset." [mediawiki/extensions/ConfirmEdit] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22039 [17:24:35] Google is indexing page's sources, how block it? [17:25:39] omid: on which url? [17:27:07] liangent: http://www.sitename.com/wiki/index.php/Page_Name google index but it index this too!! " http://www.sitename.com/wiki/index.php/Page_Name&action=edit" [17:28:00] liangent: i don't want google index "&action=edit" [17:28:54] omid: that url points to [[Page_Name&action=edit]] but not the source of [[Page Name]] [17:29:48] liangent: check this if you don't believe http://www.gamematris.com/wiki/index.php?title=Shadow_Priest&action=edit [17:30:15] omid: that's not the same thing as the url you gave before... [17:30:33] omid: the previous one is http://www.gamematris.com/wiki/index.php/Shadow_Priest&action=edit ... [17:30:35] liangent: That was an example... [17:30:49] liangent: I have two url format [17:31:08] 03(NEW) Invalid value for dir attribute ("auto") - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39912 normal; MediaWiki: Watchlist; (erwin) [17:31:30] liangent: I just want stop google from indexing this http://www.gamematris.com/wiki/index.php?title=Shadow_Priest&action=edit [17:33:16] omid: then block /wiki/index.php? entirely [17:33:35] in your robots.txt [17:34:02] I can't block &action=edit ? [17:35:05] liangent: I can't block &action=edit ? [17:35:40] 03(mod) Invalid value for dir attribute ("auto") - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39912 +comment (10Erwin Dokter) [17:36:22] hi guys, I am novice to installing via PHP, can I ask something? [17:37:19] omid: there'll be other &action=history or &foo=bar or anything else with an infinite number [17:38:15] liangent: I don't care if they blocked, too [17:39:29] omid: so just block everything with a question mark [17:41:37] liangent: Can i block urls with this mark "&" ???? [17:43:46] 03(mod) Invalid value for dir attribute ("auto") - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39912 +comment (10Brion Vibber) [17:44:46] Danielius: just ask [17:45:05] Danielius: somebody just might know the answer, but they have to first know the question [17:49:12] omid: not all search engines support a wildchar in robots.txt I guess [17:49:45] liangent: I'm only care about google, if google support then it's okay [17:52:12] omid: ok then the only counterexample I find is urls with a single parameter in url [17:52:16] for example index.php?action=edit [17:52:26] (if title is not specified it defaults to the main page) [17:52:40] Hi guys, I get this error, can you please suggest what steps should I take? A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was: CREATE DATABASE `am` from within function "MysqlInstaller::setupDatabase". Database returned error "1044: Access denied for user 'a1263281_am'@'10.1.1.24' to database 'am' (mysql6.000webhost.com)". Backtrace: [17:52:53] (happens during installation of MediaWiki 1.19.2) [17:53:16] liangent: What do you mean [17:53:32] Danielius: check for the right username and password [17:53:44] As I understand I have no access due to wrong username/password, where should I check for it? In which options? [17:53:45] omid: so you won't catch it if you only block urls with an ampersand [17:54:20] Harmageddon - is it in database settings (MediaWiki installation phase) ? [17:54:32] Danielius: you were asked to input it early in the installation? [17:54:35] should be, yes [17:54:39] database host, username and password [17:54:40] I recon I have used same username/password that I used to create an mySQL database [17:55:30] hold on, I'll try to go through installation process again (I am right about entering credentials which I set during mySQL database creation?) [17:56:16] Danielius: if you're using some sort of hosting, you should probably ask their support about what the correct combination is [17:56:33] I am just testing it, so it is just cheap free hosting [17:57:00] uploaded everything there through smartFTP client, then created mySQL database through the web based tool [17:57:52] The control panel should give you a place to find out mysql user details and/or change them... [18:01:01] I've tried, again, same error :/ [18:01:22] I would copy paste it here, but it is too long so I do not want to flood here [18:01:28] 12 lines [18:01:37] Danielius: use pastebin. [18:01:47] Danielius: Read the topic. [18:02:09] * Lcawte tries to remember back to his brief experiences with 000webhost specificly [18:02:38] http://dpaste.com/795289/ [18:02:42] @tale - thanks [18:03:21] New patchset: Hashar; "Uri class" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22167 [18:03:34] Danielius: Is your user allowed to create new databases? [18:03:38] New review: Hashar; "Restored original commit message" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22167 [18:04:36] Harmageddon: Yes, I could create it. Do I need to create a table in it? [18:05:16] Danielius: Wait... You already created the database "my_wiki"? [18:05:35] New review: Hashar; "I wish we had some tests for Sanitizer :-D" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17793 [18:05:49] Harmageddon - my database name is a1263281_am [18:06:25] And you entered this database name in the database configuration? [18:06:47] hmm, nope, I think I left it default (my_wiki) [18:07:02] So that's the reason why... ;) [18:07:18] just a sec, I'll go through installation once agian [18:07:21] again* [18:09:04] cheers mate [18:09:16] LocalSettings.php goes to the root folder right? [18:09:57] yep [18:10:57] Ok, it is there, but I got another one now (when trying to access my page via browser using domain name http://dpaste.com/795290/ [18:11:24] what does / Danielius: Did you modify the LocalSettings.php file? [18:11:43] excuse me, I will be right back [18:14:52] 03(mod) Invalid value for dir attribute ("auto") - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39912 +comment (10Erwin Dokter) [18:14:52] New review: Krinkle; "Like I said, there is a module for it, and it is in need of improvement." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: -1 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22178 [18:15:17] Tale: No, I haven't modified it, just downloaded and uploaded it to the same directory where index.php is [18:16:56] what modifications I have to make? [18:17:09] Danielius: none, it should just work [18:17:42] http://amwiki.comyr.com/ [18:18:21] any ideas where I could have made an wrong setting/step? [18:19:01] Danielius: What is on line 134 in your LocalSettings.php [18:20:08] Danielius: maybe your free hosting inserted some crap in there? [18:20:15] if it looks like HTML, it shouldnt be there [18:21:03] I used wordpad to view PHP file, since I have no normal viewer.. wordpad doesn't indicate lines [18:21:23] scroll to the end then [18:21:34] Here is the whole file http://dpaste.com/795297/ [18:22:10] can it be the analytics code? [18:22:28] yes [18:22:45] yes [18:22:55] but remove that, it contains your database password [18:23:05] (well i guess you dont care about it much, if its a free hosting) [18:23:39] deleted :) [18:26:13] It works, I appreciate your help gentelman, thanks for your time, I will go check out everything now [18:32:32] 03(mod) Enable 'editinterface' flag on ptwikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39905 +comment (10Roger Lima) [18:35:25] New patchset: IAlex; "Improve documentation of maintenance scripts." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22374 [18:40:20] alright, let's try it again today. it's the third time i'm posting this here, i hope you guys don't mind the slight spam [18:40:26] could somebody review and possibly merge https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/22304/ and its dependency? earlier commit (https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/18234/) introduced a semi-regression where LivePreview spinner would look weird when creating a new article [18:47:18] 03(FIXED) Windows 8 app: open search pane when you start typing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39850 +comment (10Brion Vibber) [18:49:22] What i should enter in Robot.txt ro block urls with "&action=edit" [18:50:11] brion: I always feel better when I see in scrollback that you've been poking at Bugzilla. [18:50:15] It reduces my anxiety a little. [18:50:21] :) [18:50:38] i'm mostly working on my own bugs for one of my pet projects atm, but i'm peeking at others too :) [18:51:47] I saw you poking the Windows 8 bug. I was like brion + Windows whatttttt. [18:52:03] Did you get a new toy? [18:52:19] i've been playing with tablet stuff :) [18:52:33] though atm i'm actually testing it on my MacBook Pro in high-resolution mode [18:52:58] I think the tablet mockup at should be the default everywhere. [18:53:11] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/File:Athena-Tablet.png [18:53:16] we'll get there in time :) [18:53:39] The Facebooky cover art... eh. But the tablet layout looks nice, I think. [18:53:48] New review: Krinkle; "@MarkTraceur: Regarding the quotes and spaces:" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/21883 [18:54:15] what if you have plenty of horizontal space? [18:54:41] Platonides: What do you mean? [18:55:48] Krinkle: hello there [18:55:50] Brooke, in a computer screen [18:56:16] Platonides: I guess things will stretch out, tehn? [18:56:18] then [18:56:19] Or not. [18:56:24] Dunno! [18:56:53] most likely what we'll end up with is a stretchy (or partially stretchy) menu, but content width limited to something sane as a single column [18:57:12] in theory we could do multi-columns though -- that's what the windows 8 app does to fit in with the metro "style" actually [18:57:16] Any Web site looks goofy on a 30-inch monitor. [18:57:29] yeah really you want multiple windows on a large monitor [18:57:30] If you make the window that large. [18:57:33] Right. [19:00:00] Dereckson: Yo. [19:00:15] Dereckson: If you're looking for a fun challenge: . :-) [19:00:23] I'd start with whitespace fixes. [19:01:51] New patchset: Krinkle; "Pass JSHint on resources/{mediawiki.api,jquery,mediawiki}/*" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/21883 [19:03:10] New review: Krinkle; "@Nike: Fixed." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/21883 [19:05:27] 03(mod) Tidy up Wikimedia's CommonSettings.php and InitialiseSettings.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29902 +comment (10MZMcBride) [19:10:33] New patchset: Krinkle; "Pass JSHint on resources/{mediawiki.api,jquery,mediawiki}/*" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/21883 [19:10:49] New review: Krinkle; "* Rebased, resolved merge conflicts." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/21883 [19:13:22] 03(mod) Tidy up Wikimedia's CommonSettings.php and InitialiseSettings.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29902 +comment (10Krinkle) [19:13:35] 03(mod) Tidy up wmf-config CommonSettings.php and InitialiseSettings.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29902 summary (10Krinkle) [19:15:58] 03(mod) Tidy up wmf-config CommonSettings.php and InitialiseSettings.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29902 (10MZMcBride) [19:18:34] 03(FIXED) Update jQuery to 1.8.1 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39908 (10Krinkle) [19:22:03] Krinkle: do you know if jQuety 1.8.1 was deployed already? I see nothing in in the Server Admin Log [19:22:23] Raymond_: it isn't deployed, and can't because someone messed up chmod on fenari.wikimedia.org [19:22:32] Krinkle: ah I see :) [19:22:34] thanks [19:22:37] need to wait for the user to come back or roots to fix it [19:22:59] if nothing else, it will be auto-deployed in the next routine deployment [19:25:22] New patchset: Krinkle; "[mw.notification] Introduce a full fledged notification system into core replacing jsMessage." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/19199 [19:27:43] Change merged: Krinkle; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/19199 [19:35:47] 03(ASSIGNED) [Regression] mediawiki.user: getGroups broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39909 normal->major; +code-update-regression; summary; +comment (10Krinkle) [19:37:46] Reedy: Is it caused by 1e8992ca7489e620d157d9a50d9aa5e611b84887 ? [19:37:50] (I'd like to mention it in the commit-msg) [19:38:18] !g 1e8992ca7489e620d157d9a50d9aa5e611b84887 [19:38:18] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#q,1e8992ca7489e620d157d9a50d9aa5e611b84887,n,z [19:39:24] Krinkle: I highly suspect so [19:43:22] New patchset: Krinkle; "mediawiki.user.test: Fix getGroups() regression" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22375 [19:43:40] 03(FIXED) [Regression] mediawiki.user: getGroups broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39909 +comment (10Krinkle) [19:44:43] Hi, how can I add images in wikimedia article? I've tried but it doesn't work [19:45:00] [[File:image name.jpg]] [19:45:16] you can only use images that are freely licensed and uploaded to the image repository [19:45:20] (assuming the image is uploaded to your wiki) [19:45:36] by url is not allowed on Wikimedia wikis [19:45:48] what about screenshots made by myself? In which directory it should be placed? [19:46:08] Is this your own wiki or a public wiki that you use? [19:46:11] Danielius: are you talking about on your own wiki, or Wikimedia wikis? [19:46:15] (e.g. Wikipedia) [19:46:23] my own wiki [19:46:28] go to [[Special:Upload]] [19:46:35] ("Upload file" link in the sidebar0 [19:47:08] and just upload it, give it a name and follow local instructions. It explains there how to use it in an article (e.g. [[File:My screenshot.png|thumbnail]]) [19:47:13] Krinkle: you seem to have some free time, why dont you review a simple change for me? :) https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/22304/ [19:47:35] (it would be cool to get it on wmf11 as livepreview is currently slightly borked when previewing new articles) [19:48:11] Krinkle - I am unable to locate Special:Upload [19:48:25] Danielius: What do you mean, how have you tried [19:48:26] Danielius: Is your wiki public? Do you have a link to it? [19:48:34] Brooke: Just click "Upload file" in the sidebar [19:48:43] make sure you have uploads enabled and confiure properly [19:48:44] !uploads [19:48:44] File uploads are disabled by default, set $wgEnableUploads=true; to enable it. See for configuration details, and for using uploaded images and other files. [19:48:51] Krinkle: Thanks, I'm new here. [19:49:02] Brooke: wrong nick :) [19:49:05] :-) [19:49:15] Sometimes people don't have a sidebar. Or an "upload file" link. [19:49:43] Brooke: he has [19:50:00] (we helped him set up the wiki just today) [19:50:21] (and right here) [19:50:37] Brooke - i PM'ed you the URL [19:50:41] Danielius: Yeah, you gotta enable file uplaods. [19:51:02] Danielius: Read the message from wm-bot above. :-) [19:51:09] uploads * [19:52:40] MatmaRex: What do you mean by "bad id" ? [19:52:43] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/22303/2/skins/common/preview.js,unified [19:52:48] id=mw-content-text [19:53:03] break lines between 80-100 max [19:53:29] 03(NEW) Exclude disambiguation pages in article count - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39913 normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (liangent) [19:53:33] id...ea [19:53:33] now I see [19:53:42] Krinkle: bad idea [19:53:46] same in the other change [19:53:47] hm [19:53:54] " weird with thro" [19:54:11] i use 2-space tabs and 120-char line width [19:54:11] can you file a bug for the "mw-newarticletext in preview, and why it needs to be in there? [19:54:23] does it have to be updated after each preview, or just be removed? [19:54:33] Krinkle: it's easiest to just go and see [19:54:38] it could be just removed [19:54:43] but this way was easier and neater [19:55:04] (it allows for the throbber to show over it, like it normally would over the text) [19:55:13] I've enabled uploads. I've uploaded the image named capture.png, then I inserted [[file:capture.png]] into the artickle, but it is show as broken file link (File:Capture.png <-- Hyperlink in red) [19:55:25] count tabs as 1 char (or as 2 or 4, doesn't really matter, only makes it hit limit earlier), and 100 char as max/line, if you have a 120 line, e.g. make it 80/40 (prettier than 100/20) [19:56:56] New patchset: Siebrand; "Maintenance for SpamBlacklist extension." [mediawiki/extensions/SpamBlacklist] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22369 [19:57:21] New review: Siebrand; "PS fixes indentation level pointed out by John." [mediawiki/extensions/SpamBlacklist] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22369 [19:57:27] *solved*, thanks! [19:57:59] Danielius: You should read the docs now. [19:58:08] I am heading right there [19:58:24] Krinkle: so do you want me to make an amendment or is it okay? :) [19:58:49] break lines between 80-100 and elaborate on the "mw-newarticletext" thing or do it differently. [19:59:14] right not it has a 1 line undescriptive commit-msg and a change that makes no sense without steps to reproduce or a known bug [19:59:19] not*now [20:00:20] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22374 [20:00:25] updateArticleCount.php isn't doing accurate commacount, right? [20:01:06] Krinkle: mhmph [20:01:07] 03(mod) Invalid value for dir attribute ("auto") - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39912 +comment (10Brad Jorsch) [20:01:40] johnduhart2: Thanks for the review. You should request maintainer access for that extension... [20:05:36] 03(mod) Live preview should not scroll (or there should be an option to disable the scrolling) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39874 +comment (10Krinkle) [20:07:57] 03(mod) Insufficient URL parameter validation causes exception - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39844 +comment (10Siebrand) [20:08:09] 03(mod) Live preview should not scroll (or there should be an option to disable the scrolling) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39874 +comment (10Krinkle) [20:09:10] New patchset: Matmarex; "LivePreview: handle .mw-newarticletext element" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22304 [20:09:40] 03(mod) Live preview should not scroll (or there should be an option to disable the scrolling) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39874 +comment (10Krinkle) [20:10:01] Krinkle: okay, i elaborated in the commit message [20:10:09] i'll get to the lin length in a second [20:10:11] line* [20:13:46] Krinkle: i just realized i had smaller font size for comments than for regular text set in my editor, that might explain the line length :) [20:14:09] so you say 100 is the limit? [20:14:14] MatmaRex: Can you explain why you removed 24134 as blocker for 36060, and added 39272 instead? [20:14:41] LivePreview will never implement a feature for MathJax, because MathJax is an extension. instead it will provide an environment that makes it possible for extensions to hook into it. [20:15:00] and that still makes me wonder about bug 24134. [20:15:13] A comment explaining the change would be nice :) - don't want an edit war [20:15:23] uh, i may have messed up [20:15:38] feel free to undo if i did something wrong, i was just given bug editing rights :) [20:15:56] 03(mod) LivePreview: styles added by extensions are missing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24134 (10Krinkle) [20:15:56] ok [20:15:58] 03(mod) MathJax doesn't work in preview - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36060 (10Krinkle) [20:15:59] 03(mod) Live preview (requires JavaScript) feature bugs (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39272 (10Krinkle) [20:16:45] 03(mod) LivePreview: styles added by extensions are missing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24134 (10Krinkle) [20:16:46] 03(mod) Live preview (requires JavaScript) feature bugs (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39272 (10Krinkle) [20:17:18] 03(mod) MathJax doesn't work in preview - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36060 (10Krinkle) [20:17:18] 03(mod) Live preview (requires JavaScript) feature bugs (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39272 (10Krinkle) [20:18:59] New patchset: Matmarex; "LivePreview: coding conventions and overall code prettiness" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22303 [20:19:08] Krinkle: fixed ^ [20:22:42] 03(mod) Live preview should not scroll (or there should be an option to disable the scrolling) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39874 +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [20:24:29] New patchset: Matmarex; "LivePreview: handle .mw-newarticletext element" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22304 [20:29:09] New patchset: IAlex; "Remove some debug output when opening a new database connection" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22376 [20:29:46] 03(mod) API: Allow edit conflict detection based on revid - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32037 +comment (10Krinkle) [20:35:58] 03(mod) Invalid value for dir attribute ("auto") - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39912 +comment (10Erwin Dokter) [20:37:59] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Created initial ValueParser and ValueParserResult interfaces" [mediawiki/extensions/Validator] (valuehandler) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22411 [20:37:59] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Added ValueParser tests" [mediawiki/extensions/Validator] (valuehandler) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22412 [20:38:00] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Added ValueParser tests" [mediawiki/extensions/Validator] (valuehandler) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22413 [20:38:00] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "added bool and title parsers" [mediawiki/extensions/Validator] (valuehandler) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22414 [20:38:00] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Split valueparser and newly introduced valuevalidator into new valuehandler extension and increment validator version to 1.0 alpha" [mediawiki/extensions/Validator] (valuehandler) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22415 [20:38:01] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Further implementation of ValueValidator and ValueHandlerError" [mediawiki/extensions/Validator] (valuehandler) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22416 [20:38:01] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Implement error handling in ValueValidator" [mediawiki/extensions/Validator] (valuehandler) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22417 [20:38:01] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Cleaned up parameter processing workflow a little" [mediawiki/extensions/Validator] (valuehandler) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22418 [20:38:22] Change abandoned: Jeroen De Dauw; "(no reason)" [mediawiki/extensions/Validator] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22310 [20:38:25] Change abandoned: Jeroen De Dauw; "(no reason)" [mediawiki/extensions/Validator] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22311 [20:38:28] Change abandoned: Jeroen De Dauw; "(no reason)" [mediawiki/extensions/Validator] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22312 [20:41:44] thedj: That doesn't sound good [20:45:37] Brooke: http://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deivismaster [20:45:44] be careful with granting rights [20:46:03] 03(mod) Invalid value for dir attribute ("auto") - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39912 +comment (10Brion Vibber) [20:46:39] 03(mod) Live preview should not scroll (or there should be an option to disable the scrolling) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39874 +comment (10Krinkle) [20:48:24] 03(mod) Invalid value for dir attribute ("auto") - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39912 +comment (10Brion Vibber) [20:56:16] 03(mod) Inconsistent state within the internal storage backends - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39221 +comment (10Aaron Schulz) [21:01:50] 03(mod) Live preview should not scroll (or there should be an option to disable the scrolling) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39874 (10mybugs.mail) [21:05:56] 03(mod) Invalid value for dir attribute ("auto") - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39912 +comment (10Brad Jorsch) [21:12:10] 03(NEW) Windows 8 app: launching app via secondary tile doesn't open article - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39914 normal; Wikipedia App: Generic; (brion) [21:13:10] 03(mod) Inconsistent state within the internal storage backends - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39221 +comment (10Marco) [21:13:21] hi [21:13:32] does bugzilla collects bugs for referata.com? [21:15:04] New patchset: Krinkle; "Update jquery.qunit from upstream v1.9.0 to v1.10.0" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22419 [21:19:03] New patchset: Platonides; "Remove duplicated line" [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22420 [21:19:12] Juandev: Our bugzilla installation? not unless its a issues with mediawiki directly [21:19:26] ok [21:21:42] 03(NEW) Always show the warning when the filter is configured to warn and to prevent the action - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39915 normal; MediaWiki extensions: AbuseFilter; (Platonides) [21:23:42] 03(mod) Remove "�" from link trail in Ukrainian Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39835 (10Pustomytnyk) [21:25:10] New review: Siebrand; "This is part of I02ba4ce3. Please review." [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22420 [21:25:52] * Jasper_Deng_away wishes for attention to https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=39780 [21:29:17] New patchset: Amire80; "(bug 37018) Explicit dir attribute for input boxes" [mediawiki/extensions/InputBox] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22367 [21:30:12] is there a translatewiki irc? [21:30:16] Nikerabbit: [21:30:26] 03(ASSIGNED) the inputbox always has the directionality of the content language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37018 +comment (10Amir E. Aharoni) [21:30:45] Juandev: #mediawiki-i18n [21:30:46] New patchset: Raimond Spekking; "Make Special:Log link pretty in navigation toolbox" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22421 [21:31:44] Reedy: thx [21:32:46] Reedy: hi, could you perhaps merge & deploy a simple config change? https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/22295/ [21:34:03] Doned [21:34:10] thanks :) [21:36:53] 03(FIXED) Please add some interwiki sources on betawikiversity - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39878 +comment (10Robin Pepermans (SPQRobin)) [21:43:14] what language is url? [21:43:26] how to highlihgt is code via source tag? [21:45:34] New patchset: Krinkle; "Remainder JSHint fixes on modules/ve/*" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22422 [21:47:34] New patchset: Siebrand; "Maintenance for CentralNotice." [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22423 [21:53:02] New review: Krinkle; "This breaks unit tests, please update them to include this property." [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22163 [21:59:04] New review: Reedy; "$wgProofreadPageNamespaceIds is currently a register_globals vulnerability" [mediawiki/extensions/ProofreadPage] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17643 [22:07:48] 03(mod) Remove "�" from link trail in Ukrainian Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39835 +comment (10Liangent) [22:18:00] 03(mod) Global blocks message issues - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39780 normal->15enhancement; +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [22:28:55] 03(NEW) Colombian lists are incomplete - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39916 normal; WikiLoves Monuments Mobile: General; (correo) [22:41:24] Is there a reason we don't auto-link e-mail addresses? [22:42:01] New patchset: Siebrand; "Maintenance for DismissableSiteNotice." [mediawiki/extensions/DismissableSiteNotice] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22424 [22:42:18] Brooke: on that note, http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jack_Phoenix&diff=prev&oldid=579144 [22:42:25] Jasper_Deng_sick: Err, what'd he do? [22:42:35] Brooke: nothing bad [22:42:41] but if he's adding email blacklisting [22:42:50] it makes sense to allow CheckUsers to root out trouble emails too [22:46:01] What is the format of settings_MW_DB.php? [22:46:26] wth is that? [22:46:33] Apparently update.php requires it. [22:47:09] PHP Fatal error: require_once(): Failed opening required 'settings_MW_DB.php' [22:51:50] I did something stupid. :[ [22:52:08] I forgot my root password and overwrite what Firefox had remembered for me. ;-; [22:53:54] can someone give me a clue about how to going about replace the $wgMessageCache->addMessages functionality since this was apparently removed? [22:54:24] svip: I forgive you. [22:54:33] New patchset: Siebrand; "Maintenance for FeaturedFeeds." [mediawiki/extensions/FeaturedFeeds] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22425 [22:54:51] Jasper_Deng_sick: That seems like a feature request for Bugzilla, I guess. [22:55:07] Jasper_Deng_sick: Also, you should be using https. [22:55:07] Brooke: I guess, filing [22:55:13] It's probably already filed. [22:55:17] * Jasper_Deng_sick is too lazy [22:55:21] to use HTTPS [22:55:30] Well, [22:55:37] 03(FIXED) Search activation bug in Windows 8 app - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37366 +comment (10Brion Vibber) [22:55:41] 03(FIXED) Windows 8 app: launching app via secondary tile doesn't open article - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39914 +comment (10Brion Vibber) [22:56:19] Brooke: no such bug found [22:56:21] filing [22:56:44] Jasper_Deng_sick: there are already extensions (such as LookupUser, written by Tim Starling) that can get you the e-mails of users...dunno why that ext. ain't installed on WMF sites [22:56:48] Can't wait. [22:56:59] ashley: It violates user privacy needlessly. [22:57:06] And has no audit trail, as I recall. [22:57:20] well [22:57:24] Brooke: CheckUsers should be trustable looking at e-mail addresses [22:57:29] 1) what is "needlessly"? [22:57:34] and 2) yes, it's correct [22:58:11] Jasper_Deng_sick: Really? [22:58:23] ashley: I'm not sure I see the advantage. [22:58:43] Brooke: Same rules as IP addresses, especially in the case of shared e-mails [22:58:58] E-mail addresses aren't the same as IP addresses. [22:59:06] They can often reveal personal information about a person. [22:59:10] Well, more personal information. [22:59:18] can can and can [22:59:19] which CheckUsers should be trustable with [22:59:36] a meteorite _can_ fall from the sky and kill you... [22:59:43] I'm not sure why you trust CheckUsers, Jasper_Deng_sick. [23:00:05] ashley: I'm saying that there have been specific incidents in the past where knowing someone's e-mail address has led to their account being compromised. [23:00:10] People set stupid passwords sometimes. [23:00:18] Brooke: they would not be CheckUsers unless they really do everything right concerning privacy [23:00:18] And there's an expectation of privacy tehre. [23:00:19] there [23:00:22] Which really can't be broken. [23:00:52] ? [23:01:03] You'll have to be more specific, Jasper_Deng_sick. [23:01:14] File the bug, sure. But I don't see it happening on Wikimedia wikis (anytime soon, if ever). [23:01:42] And we don't even have to give this to CheckUsers [23:01:42] The CheckUser argument is kind of stupid. You could automate checks and catch a lot more socks. [23:01:59] You could do grouping by IP address on a bulk level, etc. [23:02:08] Not really. The type of IP address matters. [23:02:08] But there are privacy principles at stake. [23:02:24] You could filter out shared IPs trivially. [23:02:27] * Jasper_Deng_sick calls on Reedy for his opinion [23:02:31] A lot of them are explicitly tagged. [23:02:43] You could do a lot of things if there weren't any privacy considerations. [23:02:54] In this case, we treat e-mail addresses as confidential. [23:03:10] Violating that expectation of privacy would be a big deal, I think. [23:03:22] :( [23:03:31] Holy this update is taking a long while. [23:03:32] As Tim says, it's easier to start with the info being public (like we did with gender in user prefs) then try to subsequently un-hide data. [23:03:37] Holy shit * [23:03:49] than? [23:03:55] than [23:03:59] Usually. [23:04:11] Too many revisions! [23:04:18] I would hate to update enwiki. ;-; [23:04:49] 03(NEW) Separate global and local abuse filter modifying - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39917 normal; MediaWiki extensions: AbuseFilter; (jasper) [23:05:20] Brooke: but my main point is what's the point in an e-mail blacklist w/o knowing user e-mail addresses? [23:06:05] :S 115 revs. [23:06:07] And counting. [23:06:08] 115k [23:06:48] Hmmm... now I have a backend issue. [23:07:24] Reedy: http://theinfosphere.org/Special:Version [23:07:25] :( [23:10:34] New patchset: Siebrand; "Replace remaining deprecated wfMsg calls." [mediawiki/extensions/Gadgets] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22426 [23:13:20] New patchset: Siebrand; "Replace remaining deprecated wfMsg calls." [mediawiki/extensions/Gadgets] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22426 [23:15:00] Jasper_Deng_sick: NFI. Do we have e-mail blacklisting? [23:15:07] Oh. [23:15:12] That's part of AbuseFilter? [23:15:16] Brooke: no [23:15:26] see Admin tools development on mw.org [23:15:27] Sometimes people abuse e-mail functionality. [23:15:30] Oh. [23:15:48] Your lack of context is a little painful sometimes. [23:15:59] Anyway, sometimes people abuse e-mail. [23:16:02] So you know their address. [23:16:09] And it'd be nice to be able to block it. [23:16:18] There was some "Joker" account on en.wiki doing that once. [23:16:19] but this is supposed to block email addresses of /new/ accounts [23:16:26] I think it's still blocked in the configuration files. [23:16:35] thejoker@gmail.com or something. [23:16:41] * Brooke shrugs. [23:16:49] You're asking me to justify someone else's brainstorming page. [23:17:04] Hmmm... now I have a backend issue. [23:17:05] twhs [23:17:06] well, the blacklist feature is already done [23:17:12] What blacklist feature? [23:17:21] a module of http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Phalanx [23:17:27] see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Admin_tools_development [23:17:29] what is the GD module for PHP? [23:17:48] Jasper_Deng_sick: Right... Wikia does a lot of shit differently than Wikimedia. [23:17:56] They don't really care about user privacy, for example. [23:18:09] So their tools are inherently going to have a different outlook and set of contraints/requirements/etc. [23:18:17] constraints * [23:18:20] Brooke: Jack Phoenix wrote the module himself, making it /Wikimedia/-orientated [23:18:35] Jasper_Deng_sick: So, to answer your question, on a Wikia wiki, you can look up the user's e-mail address. [23:18:40] Which would explain blacklist capability. [23:18:47] just a line: we found some spammers using special:emailusers on zhwiki [23:18:50] I'm not sure how you're confused. [23:18:50] eh, that's not 100% correct, Jasper_Deng_sick [23:19:02] Anyway, gotta run! [23:19:03] ashley: I wasn't trying to speak for Jack [23:19:08] lawl [23:19:11] ashley is Jack. [23:19:11] sorry if I was incorrect [23:19:15] Daniel Grunwell (Grunny) wrote parts of the e-mail blacklisting code for Wikia, but I enhanced the original code [23:19:24] Jasper_Deng_sick: Learn to /whois. ;-) [23:19:36] * Jasper_Deng_sick did /whois but didn't find Jack [23:19:41] * Jasper_Deng_sick wasn't looking carefully enough [23:19:46] ashley!~ashley@MediaWiki/Jack-Phoenix [23:19:48] Herp derp. [23:19:49] <3 [23:19:53] indeed [23:20:16] me, me, me... [23:21:02] ashley: so do you think what I posted on your talk page is realistic? [23:21:21] anyway, I think e-mails should be considered private until there's a reasonable doubt to assume that someone's sock/meatpuppeting or somesuch -- just like IPs, though personally I consider neither of those very private [23:21:30] technically everything is doable [23:21:32] but in the end [23:21:32] New review: Siebrand; "Per comments on PS1." [mediawiki/extensions/TranslationNotifications] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/18186 [23:21:38] it boils down to politics [23:21:58] well, that's the way CheckUser is currently set up [23:59:48] 03(FIXED) Windows 8 app: higher-resolution splash screen images - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39854 +comment (10Brion Vibber)