[00:03:05] something better in 1.19.2? [00:04:44] yes, security fixes [00:07:28] New patchset: Siebrand; "Fix docs." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24389 [00:08:43] Change merged: Nikerabbit; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24389 [00:08:56] New patchset: Kaldari; "(bug 40345) Pass along the specific error info from the API result" [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24391 [00:09:43] 03(FIXED) When we tag/delete/review a page and get an API error, we should surface the text of the error to the user - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40345 +comment (10Ryan Kaldari) [00:10:02] ok [00:13:12] New patchset: Kaldari; "(bug 40371) Alphabetize tag sections" [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24392 [00:13:59] 03(FIXED) Tag Wizard: Alphabetize tag sections - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40371 +comment (10Ryan Kaldari) [00:15:22] New patchset: Robmoen; "Use inspector specific icon css files vs entire icon set css." [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24388 [00:15:49] New patchset: Robmoen; "Use inspector specific icon css files vs entire icon set css." [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24388 [00:15:52] New patchset: Alex Monk; "(bug 40292) Don't use hardcoded brackets" [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24393 [00:16:19] 03(mod) notification-edit-talk-page has hardcoded brackets - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40292 +comment (10Krenair) [00:18:42] New patchset: Matthias Mullie; "Refactor AFT backend" [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24264 [00:24:17] New patchset: Matthias Mullie; "use config var for comment max length" [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24394 [00:45:59] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "Worked around hash path inconsistency to unbreak stash file thumbs." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24397 [01:07:14] New patchset: Nikerabbit; "Another peformance fix" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24402 [01:09:59] New patchset: Adamw; "(FR #595) Adyen payment gateway" [mediawiki/extensions/DonationInterface] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/20467 [01:26:55] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24402 [01:32:34] New review: Siebrand; "Pretty cool, Niklas. Thanks." [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master); V: 0 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23988 [01:32:35] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23988 [01:33:54] New review: Krinkle; "-1 for wgSitename in cookie key and incorrect method invocations on non-static methods. PHP throws n..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24026 [01:36:49] 03(mod) Description input field on items list is LTR in an RTL environment - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40247 +comment (10Amir E. Aharoni) [01:39:27] New patchset: Siebrand; "Maintenance for AbuseFilter extension." [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22361 [01:39:52] New patchset: Siebrand; "Maintenance for AbuseFilter extension." [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22361 [01:52:02] New patchset: Logicwiki; "(bug 39381) Add Javanese font to WebFonts" [mediawiki/extensions/WebFonts] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24403 [02:10:48] 03(mod) Add Javanese font to WebFonts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39381 +patch-in-gerrit; +comment (10Srikanth Logic) [02:16:17] 03(mod) Review and deploy TimedMediaHandler extension (timed media handler) to Wikimedia wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27699 +comment (10Michael Dale) [02:52:43] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "[FileBackend] Added getLocalCopies() and getLocalReferences()." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24257 [03:04:07] New review: Amire80; "The font is shown correctly when Graphite is enabled in Firefox." [mediawiki/extensions/WebFonts] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24403 [03:07:27] 03(NEW) Allow populateFuzzy.php on per namespace basis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40373 minor; MediaWiki extensions: Translate; (s.mazeland) [03:07:28] 03(mod) Allow populateFuzzy.php on per namespace basis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40373 (10Siebrand) [03:12:53] Hey guys, I have a mediawiki site running and I've been reading about memcached and APC. It seems like installing both of those things (in linux) will 'automagically' work without any MW config changes. True? [03:17:02] New patchset: Siebrand; "Moar maintenance for Translate." [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24408 [03:22:09] hello everybody [03:22:13] can i ask here?? [03:22:30] i cant get mediawiki to work on my site.. [03:22:49] does $wgServer needs to set to an ip adress?? [03:22:56] Brroke: ping [03:23:02] in LocalSettings.php ?? [03:23:03] domas: no [03:23:11] lol [03:23:15] No [03:23:19] Reedy: ?? [03:23:35] No [03:23:36] No [03:23:37] No [03:23:44] whats No? [03:23:45] What's wrong with it? [03:24:01] i cant get mediawiki to load on my server [03:24:04] i already installed it.. [03:24:17] under vhost in apache [03:24:55] so $wgServer doesnt need to be set to an ip address?? [03:25:12] what's the URL you're trying to access it under? [03:25:17] don't make him say it again [03:25:28] hi Jasper_Deng [03:25:47] im actually want to open it through https://wiki.mycompany.com [03:26:13] $wgServer then needs to be / [03:26:23] but it redirects me to and ip adress which i believe is the same ip that is set in $wgServer [03:26:32] not IP address [03:26:44] use what I said in your $wgServer [03:26:56] $wgServer has to start with the protocol [03:27:01] ^ [03:27:15] https://wiki.mycompany.com not wiki.mycompany.com [03:27:15] this is the url that im beeing redirected everytime i accessed https://wiki.mycompany.com http://x.x.x.x/wiki/index.php/Main_Page [03:27:36] you should have $wgServer set to "https://wiki.mycompany.com/wiki" [03:27:46] hmmmm [03:27:48] no, https://wiki.mycompany.com [03:27:50] thats it? [03:27:56] and $wgScriptPath to /wiki [03:27:57] TimStarling: ^ [03:28:04] Hello. [03:28:07] which it probably is already [03:28:08] * Jasper_Deng is not concentrating [03:28:58] ok ill try it TimStarling [03:29:05] [23:22] Brroke: ping [03:29:11] I don't stalk the two R variant. [03:29:21] * Jasper_Deng makes typos too much [03:33:49] hey TimStarling i already change $wgServer = https://wiki.mycompany.com [03:34:02] but im not still getting the page load... :( [03:34:27] deo: What happens when you try to load the page? [03:34:39] make sure you have quotes around the https://wiki.mycompany.com [03:34:55] can i paste the page load here? [03:35:00] it says not found [03:35:01] no [03:35:10] use pastebin.com instead [03:35:30] the url that is on the address bar is https://wiki.mycompany.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page [03:36:04] try https://wiki.mycompany.com/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page [03:36:11] but the page says Not Found :( The requested URL /wiki/index.php/Main_Page was not found on this server. [03:38:43] yes Jasper_Deng it has quotes around it.. [03:38:59] did you try going to https://wiki.mycompany.com/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page ? [03:39:03] Brooke: the page says Not Found, its plain white page [03:39:25] deo: see my previous comments [03:39:37] what do you get when you try that particular URL? [03:40:32] (or, just try https://wiki.mycompany.com/wiki/index.php) [03:41:59] Jasper_Deng: its still Not Found when i accessed https://wiki.mycompany.com/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page [03:42:12] deo: which webserver? [03:42:39] If it's IIS you need to properly setup your website bindings [03:42:46] and on this url https://wiki.mycompany.com/wiki/index.php page Not Found still [03:42:58] im using Centos 6.2 Jasper_Deng [03:43:10] This doesn't seem like a MediaWiki issue. [03:43:22] deo: where did you put your wiki files? [03:43:28] If you're getting a 404 at /index.php, it sounds like you've improperly configured your Web server. [03:43:32] ^ [03:43:33] in /var/www/html/wiki [03:43:47] Brooke: im not getting a 404 [03:43:48] deo: and do you see an "index.php" file in that directory? [03:43:49] You can add a text file to the relevant area of your file system to see if it's Web accessible. [03:43:57] deo: You're getting a Not Found error? [03:44:17] Brooke: yes.. but it isnt say a 404 [03:44:18] Did you paste the full error? [03:44:26] How do you know? [03:44:26] Jasper_Deng: ill check it first [03:44:32] Did you check the response headers? [03:44:54] deo: if you're using Firefox, open Web Console [03:45:06] and try loading the page to see the error in the console [03:45:12] yes Jasper_Deng there is and index.php in /var/www/html/wiki folder [03:45:22] Heh, I hit the home button on my keyboard. [03:45:26] And I see that deo was here earlier. [03:45:36] yes Brooke :) [03:45:48] ill paste my full errror on page... in pastebin [03:45:49] wait [03:47:02] here it is Jasper_Deng Brooke [03:47:04] http://pastie.org/4757451 [03:47:45] 03(mod) Particular CentralNotice banner is causing weird header (

) indent using Monobook skin - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40370 +comment (10MZMcBride) [03:47:50] deo: which is a 404 [03:48:16] New patchset: Tim Starling; "Add an API log" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24274 [03:48:48] hhhhmmnnn [03:49:05] your webserver isn't configured correctly [03:49:05] so what am i supposed to check/change Jasper_Deng ?? [03:49:14] its actually a vhost [03:49:27] You need to figure out what the issue is. [03:49:29] And resolve it. [03:49:33] Then you can set up MediaWiki. [03:49:41] But MediaWiki unfortunately requires a working Web server. [03:49:46] ill pastebin my wiki.conf vhost [03:50:31] here it is http://pastie.org/4757111 [03:50:48] God that background is awful. [03:50:53] http://pastie.org/pastes/4757111/text [03:51:04] deo: your document root shouldn't be /wiki [03:51:24] it should be set /var/www/html [03:51:34] or if that's not possible, move your wiki files to /wiki/wiki [03:52:19] hmmmnn ok ill try it.. [03:52:59] Jasper_Deng: DocumentRoot on both vhost :80 and 443 right?? [03:53:24] deo: right [03:53:33] ok ill try.. thanks Jasper_Deng [03:55:43] Jasper_Deng: ive changed it already, and the page displays Apache 2 TestPage [03:55:45] hmmmmn [03:56:21] deo: do you see files other than index.php in your directory? [03:56:40] theres one site actually running also vhost... [03:56:54] thats on separate folder called paste [03:57:02] the two shouldn't affect each other [03:57:27] Jasper_Deng: deo: do you see files other than index.php in your directory? >>>> in /wiki folder??? [03:57:32] yeah [03:57:45] yup theres a lot of other files in here.. [03:58:02] did you set a default document? [03:58:10] actuall nope... [03:58:34] still, though, https://wiki.company.com/wiki/index.php should yield something [03:59:07] oopss yeah its loaded Jasper_Deng [03:59:21] so your issue is fixed? [03:59:23] i will need to add /wiki/index.php on the url [03:59:42] but should i add it everytime i access https://wiki.company.com ?? [04:00:25] deo: set up a redirect from https://wiki.company.com to https://wiki.company.com/wiki [04:00:31] then set index.php to be default document [04:01:21] hmmnn where should i setup a redirect from https://wiki.company.com/ to https://wiki.company.com/wiki ??? [04:01:29] in my vhost ?? [04:01:34] Jasper_Deng: ^ [04:01:38] deo: yes [04:01:45] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "Trigger warning for bad use of transactions." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/21584 [04:02:06] I'm not an expert on Apache, so I can't give you much advice on that [04:02:10] how should i set index.php to be the default content Jasper_Deng ?? im sorry i dont know? [04:02:29] deo: you'll have to find the configuration setting for a default document [04:02:39] I'm sure there's one for your webserver [04:02:52] hhmmnn ok Jasper_Deng i think i found it.. [04:02:59] ill have to do it fist.. [04:03:05] thanks so much Jasper_Deng for your help... [04:03:09] really appreciate it.. [04:03:11] np [04:03:13] Brooke: thanks man.. [04:03:25] people here are the best! :D [04:05:53] New review: Aaron Schulz; "Moved code to final functions. Ideally, we'd change this eventually call savepoint() instead of give..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/21584 [04:06:21] Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/21584 [04:18:33] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "Don't send empty Vary headers." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24410 [04:19:46] Change merged: Tim Starling; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24410 [04:25:43] Hey guys [04:26:56] I'm trying to make post a "waning" on a wiki. It does not look as it should. It looks like this: Template:Warning My text [04:27:08] to post * [04:27:37] mlpokn: you must first create the template [04:28:00] if you wish to reuse Wikipedia templates, http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ParserFunctions is often necessary. [04:30:55] Thanks, I'll look into it [04:31:54] I guess I need access to the server? [04:32:37] ? [04:33:55] Heh, waning. [04:34:02] Do I need to install the ParserFunctions plugin in order to create templates? [04:34:11] no [04:34:15] Brooke. Lool [04:34:21] but it's highly useful and needed to use Wikipedia templates [04:34:30] Right. [04:34:48] Making templates without ParserFunctions is akin to making cookies without flour. [04:35:01] Or something. [04:35:36] Different analogy please. [04:35:38] a mitzvah for passover? [04:35:47] Passover is the worst. [04:35:57] Also, we're in the Days of Awe, aren't we. [04:36:48] don't ask me, i'm only jewish when it's convenient [04:37:08] I'm taking next Wednesday off! [04:37:18] For some reason, I thought Yom Kippur fell on a Saturday this year. [04:37:21] #itdoesnt [04:38:02] * ori-l googles to find out [04:38:58] dafaq [04:38:59] Template loop detected: Template:Note [04:39:29] You're calling {{note}} inside of {{note}}, it sounds like. [04:39:36] Yo dawg... [04:40:04] Brooke. I've followed this tutorial: http://www.hobbsknowledgebase.co.uk/wiki/Using_MediaWiki_Templates_(like_%22NOTE:%22_and_%22WARNING:%22) [04:40:29] New patchset: Tim Starling; "Log page titles that are more than 10% of the node count limit" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24411 [04:41:32] mlpokn: Is your wiki public? [04:41:38] A link to it would be helpuful. [04:41:38] It is [04:41:52] Change merged: Tim Starling; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24411 [04:42:26] http://bit.ly/UrhoLa [04:44:13] mlpokn: http://www.hobbsknowledgebase.co.uk/w/index.php?title=Template:Note&action=edit [04:44:28] Templates just take HTMl and repeat it at you, basically. [04:44:33] HTML, wikitext, or plaintext. [04:44:42] So in this case, you'd want some pretty HTML. [04:44:59] {{Note|My "NOTE:" template looks like this!}} [04:45:00] You have that. [04:45:09] New patchset: Tim Starling; "Generated node count limit" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf11) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23923 [04:45:11] But you don't want that there. [04:45:18] You want that on a page soemewhere. [04:45:20] Change merged: Tim Starling; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf11) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23923 [04:45:21] somewhere [04:45:33] In Template:Note, you want
{{{1}}}
or similar. [04:46:07] Ok Brooke. I'll look into it. Ty [04:46:51] You're welcome. [04:47:44] Brooke: If I want to use this wiki's warning template, how do I do it? http://bit.ly/UkpDpw [04:48:25] You can paste full links in here. [04:48:44] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Beginners%27_Guide#Prepare_the_storage_drive [04:48:52] New patchset: Tim Starling; "Log page titles that are more than 10% of the node count limit" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf11) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24412 [04:49:23] Change merged: Tim Starling; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf11) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24412 [04:49:44] mlpokn: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=Template:Warning&action=edit [04:49:51] Most of that page is noise. [04:49:53] The relevant part is... [04:49:58] {{Box RED|Warning:|{{{1|{{Error}}}}}}} [04:50:11] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=Template:Box_RED&action=edit [04:50:15] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=Template:Box_RED&action=edit [04:50:17] Oop. [04:50:22] {{Box|{{{1}}}|{{{2}}}|#DDBBBB|#FFDDDD}} [04:50:25] New patchset: Tim Starling; "Log page titles that are more than 10% of the node count limit" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf12) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24413 [04:50:28] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=Template:Box&action=edit [04:50:32] Thanks. [04:50:40]
{{{1}}} {{{2}}}
 [04:50:48] The parts are just template documentation. [04:50:54] The parts are what you want. [04:53:53] Change merged: Tim Starling; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf12) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24413 [04:57:28] I can't get it to work. So, I wrote "{Warning|Message}}" and saved it, then clicked the Template:Warning link, and copied the template [05:00:13] Dunno. You've apparently restricted viewing the wikitext. [05:01:27] Did you forget the first bracket? [05:02:34] mlpokn: "Box RED" isn't the same as "Box Red". [05:02:51] I messed it up [05:03:02] I can't even delete the pages I've made [05:03:21] You could just fix them instead. [05:04:11] Brooke: http://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php?title=Template:TEST&action=edit&redlink=1 There's where I put the template, right? [05:07:16] Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/extensions/timeline] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23633 [05:07:44] mlpokn: Fixed it up for you. [05:08:35] Hey, Thanks. [05:08:55] You're welcome. [05:09:09] But I still don't understand how it works [05:09:16] Where did you put the code? [05:09:28] Go to "Special:RecentChanges" on your wiki. [05:09:36] It's in the left-hand sidebar. [05:09:41] You can see what was changed. [05:10:34] New patchset: Chughakshay16; "Some changes related to new conference.dashboard.js + other minor issues" [mediawiki/extensions/ConventionExtension] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22983 [05:12:59] found it. Thanks again for your help! I'm mlpokn [05:13:29] New review: Chughakshay16; "These changes are not standalone, they only make sense with changeset 22937." [mediawiki/extensions/ConventionExtension] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22983 [05:24:43] hellow guys.. is there any ways to shorten my ursl in media wiki?? [05:26:08] for example my usuall url is this > https://wiki.company.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page and i want it to appear as https://wiki.company.com/Main_Page [05:26:17] !nullpath | deo [05:26:17] deo: Don't use the example.com/Page_title URL scheme. It isn't supported by developers and WILL break in ways you can't foresee (and if it doesn't, it might break in the future). Some examples can be found at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Wiki_in_site_root_directory#Reasons_why_putting_wiki_pages_in_the_root_directory_of_the_web_site_is_bad [05:26:45] is there any ways to that? [05:27:06] yes but they're unsupported [05:27:13] hmmmnn [05:27:22] deo. why did you install it in the ''wiki'' folder? [05:27:30] If you already have a subdomain for it [05:27:36] however what you /can/ do is put it in the format of https://wiki.company.com/w/
[05:27:42] mlpokn: see the link [05:27:47] pointed out by wm-bot [05:28:15] hi mlpokn its because there are two sites running on this server [05:28:22] and they're vhost actually [05:28:58] Jasper_Deng: you mean i will change the folder name to w ?? [05:29:07] deo: no [05:29:14] !shorturl | deo [05:29:14] deo: To create simple URLs (such as the /wiki/PAGENAME style URLs on Wikimedia sites), follow the instructions at . There are instructions for most different webserver setups. If you have problems getting the rewrite rules to work, see !rewriteproblem [05:29:44] !rewriteproblem [05:29:44] 1) Try as a fail-safe method; 2) Do not put the files into the document root; 3) Do not map the pages into the document root (see !nullpath); 4) Use different, non-overlapping paths for real files and virtual pages; 5) Do not set a RewriteBase; 6) Put all rules into the .htaccess file in the document root. [05:30:11] ok ill try it Jasper_Deng thaks :) [05:32:44] Guys, I'm trying to upload some images. I am getting: File extension ".png" does not match the detected MIME type of the file (image/jpeg). The thing is, bot the "Destination Filename" and the file itself have the .png extension [05:35:15] mlpokn: apparently the file is not really a .png file, but a jpeg file [05:35:42] Saruman, but it has the png extension. Seems legit [05:36:04] sure enough. But MW detects that it calls itself png while it really isn't [05:36:27] so if you rename it .jpg you should be able to upload it [05:36:52] Yes, but I have to rename a lot [05:37:50] there are multi-file-rename-tools, such as TotalCommander that can do that for you [05:38:06] but how did you wind up with JPG files that are named png? [05:38:23] I have no idea [05:38:50] oh wait, do you perhaps try to upload a _new_ image to an existing .png file in your wiki? [05:39:13] The thing is, I'm trying to post a tutorial, and I've already created the "destianation filename" for all the images [05:39:18] using the .png [05:39:24] because all my pics were pngs [05:40:24] getting lots of PHP Notice: LoadBalancer::commitMasterChanges: No transaction to commit, something got out of sync! [Called from DatabaseBase::commit in /www/translatewiki.net/w/includes/db/Database.php at line 2912] in /www/translatewiki.net/w/includes/debug/Debug.php on line 282 [05:40:57] mlpokn: how did you obtain the png pics? [05:41:08] Downloaded from our forum [05:41:21] Saved the page basically [05:41:28] and it saved all the pics in a folder [05:42:12] then you have to find out what's actually happening: either your forum uses .jpg pics but lables them .png, or your wiki is misdetecting the pics. Latter seems a bit unlikely to me [05:42:53] Saruman, the pics were hosted on imgur, not attached [05:43:02] if your pics are actually JPG compressed but labeled .png, you may try to convert them to real png with some sort of image converter, e.g. http://www.softpedia.com/get/Multimedia/Graphic/Image-Convertors/ImageConvert.shtml [05:43:59] Running *nix:) [05:44:08] Anyways, I'll see what I can do [05:44:47] *nis FTW! :-) [05:45:25] start to check what the actual file format is, independent of their current extension [05:47:22] Amgine: The flour analogy was fine. [05:47:30] The point was that it's possible, just unpleasant. [05:48:24] ok, so I can't seem to find a way to edit a users email address. Is there a default way in mediawiki that doesn't require editing the DB directly? [05:49:32] I think there's an extension. [05:49:38] 03(NEW) Transaction warning: LoadBalancer::commitMasterChange - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40374 normal; MediaWiki: Database; (niklas.laxstrom) [05:50:46] 03(NEW) Transaction warning: WikiPage::doDeleteArticleReal - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40375 normal; MediaWiki: Database; (niklas.laxstrom) [05:51:27] 03(NEW) Transaction warning: SiteStatsUpdate::doUpdate - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40376 normal; MediaWiki: Database; (niklas.laxstrom) [05:52:31] Well, the standard way is actually to have the user change the user's email address. Presumably the user has lost their password? there's a cli script to change their password. [05:53:58] Guys, how do I upload pics from a external site? Upload them not link them [05:54:15] 03(NEW) Transaction warning: EditPage::commitWatch (SMWStore::updateData) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40377 normal; MediaWiki: Database; (niklas.laxstrom) [05:56:18] 03(NEW) Transaction warning: WikiPage::doEdit (User::loadFromDatabase) (TranslateMetadata::get) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40378 normal; MediaWiki: Database; (niklas.laxstrom) [06:00:19] Amgine: they reset their password cos they couldn't get in.. turns out the email address was wrong. if they can't get in, they can't reset it. [06:01:03] but if you have access to the cli, you can change their password. Of course, this could also allow someone to steal another's account. [06:01:30] turns out it was in 2 places in the db too, which is annoying [06:02:20] (the email address that is) [06:02:24] If you're certain the person is who they say they are, next time use maintenance/changePassword.php [06:02:45] on the server? [06:02:50] [06:03:01] 03(mod) Transaction warning: WikiPage::doEdit (User::loadFromDatabase) (TranslateMetadata::get) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40378 +comment (10Niklas Laxström) [06:03:34] cef: Two places? Just the two fields in the user table, right? [06:03:46] Brooke: confirmed [06:05:51] New patchset: Tim Starling; "More documentation for node count limit" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24417 [06:05:52] Brooke: email address seems to be stored in in #_user.user_email, and in #_account_credentials.acd_email [06:06:49] cef: account_credentials isn't a MediaWiki table. [06:06:56] At least not MediaWiki core. Maybe an extension. [06:07:11] it's an extension yes [06:07:21] but yes, so I had to change it in 2 places [06:07:30] All right. [06:07:55] I was going to say earlier, of all the things to not do in the database manually, changing an e-mail address is comparatively not very bad. [06:08:11] (the ConfirmAccount extension) [06:08:12] Most things you should use a maintenance script or the UI for, of course. [06:08:14] heh. User properties. [06:09:55] had to reset the new password exp thing too.. since it wouldn't let me resend him a passwd since it has recently sent him one.. *sigh*.. sorted now [06:10:43] So I'm on a team that's developing an extension for mediawiki, it creates visual timelines from events that have been indexed from articles. [06:11:22] I'm wondering how I can build an extension [06:11:57] given that the processing and database mgmt is performed on I server my team owns. [06:11:58] I think you or someone like you was in here a few weeks ago. [06:12:08] Yup! [06:12:13] I've made progress! [06:12:21] gj [06:12:37] I vaguely remember this. Did you end up working on a cool UI for inserting events? [06:13:03] We' have a markup menu, and an editing interface. [06:13:06] but [06:13:30] we've only done embeddable code [06:13:42] Change merged: IAlex; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24417 [06:14:05] to be clear, the only way to insert a timeline is by embedding code on a website's html [06:14:52] What would be the easiest way to test it as an extension? Whats the process of development? [06:15:27] (I've looked but it's hard to find the right documentation on the process of development for extensions) [06:15:43] Extensions are server-side PHP files. [06:15:51] So you can just make one wherever your site is. [06:16:10] If you want to have it hosted on Wikimedia/MediaWiki's servers, you can request a Git repository. [06:16:25] !gitrepo [06:17:00] what about for the db? [06:17:46] MediaWiki has a database. [06:17:53] You can add tables, if you need to. [06:18:00] Or use existing ones. [06:18:04] Depends what you're doing, of course. [06:18:11] okay. [06:19:01] the majority of our program is written in fox pro, would there be any way to run it as an extension? [06:19:55] or would we simply create php files that make requests from our servers? [06:28:51] 03(mod) Enable translation import on wikis with Translate extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40341 +comment (10Niklas Laxström) [06:28:51] 03(mod) [SIO][SCQ] Compound query for SIO when using custom namespaces - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38711 (10novacellus) [06:28:55] @Brooke any advice? [06:30:30] 03(mod) Corrected logo for Sanskrit Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40222 (10hemantbugzilla) [06:45:47] New patchset: Amire80; "(bug 35990) Fix schwa syncope for deva word ends" [mediawiki/extensions/Narayam] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16272 [07:07:33] I'm a newb with Gerrit, how do I create a new project? [07:08:20] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/New_repositories/Requests/Entries [07:08:22] I think [07:08:30] awesome thanks! [07:08:32] here http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/New_repositories/Requests [07:08:33] :P [07:08:54] !newgit is http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/New_repositories/Requests [07:08:54] Key was added [07:15:25] New patchset: Chughakshay16; "Minor bug in creating DateTime objects" [mediawiki/extensions/ConventionExtension] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24418 [07:19:25] hi all [07:19:42] i can't see $wgArticlePath in my LocalSettings.php [07:19:49] is it deprecated ? [07:20:21] im using 1.19.2 [07:25:06] deo I don't think so [07:25:13] but you don't have to have it there [07:25:21] it's in DefaultSettings [07:25:35] LS overrides DS [07:25:59] so if u are missing stuff in LS, it doesn't matter that much, as long you are not missing DB user etc [07:26:34] !newrepo [07:26:43] !newrepo alias [07:26:43] You didn't provide a valid alias name [07:26:50] !newrepo alias newgit [07:26:50] Created new alias for this key [07:26:57] !newrepo [07:26:57] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/New_repositories/Requests [07:33:11] 03(FIXED) Language-Links are not updated on client when corresponding links are removed from the repo unless you do a purge (5) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39384 (10denny vrandecic) [07:34:11] 03(FIXED) Noexternalinterlang behaving eratically (8) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40069 +comment (10denny vrandecic) [07:34:28] 03(FIXED) Wikidata compatibility: Math extension is not configured on the client (1) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40102 (10denny vrandecic) [07:34:41] 03(FIXED) install sitematrix extension (5) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40100 (10denny vrandecic) [07:35:48] 03(FIXED) Add more verbose messages to pollForChanges script (2) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39585 (10denny vrandecic) [07:35:56] 03(FIXED) Make sure there's only one pollForChanges process per client (5) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40228 (10denny vrandecic) [07:36:02] 03(FIXED) PID file for pollForChanges does not work with a wiki family setup. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40327 (10denny vrandecic) [07:36:10] 03(FIXED) PollForChanges runs too long on start (3) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40199 (10denny vrandecic) [07:37:42] 03(FIXED) Tests to test edit conflicts (8) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40235 (10denny vrandecic) [07:37:47] 03(FIXED) Using index.php?title=Special:CreateItem will break (3) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40204 (10denny vrandecic) [07:38:29] 03(mod) Add "Developer" or "API" link to footer of Wikimedia wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33464 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [07:38:45] 03(FIXED) Save button stays disabled when copy/paste into the "enter label" field instead typing in it (3) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40131 +comment (10denny vrandecic) [07:39:23] 03(FIXED) "Enter [short] description" field is delayed (Verz�gerung bei der Eingabe der Kurzbeschreibung) (3) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40129 +comment (10denny vrandecic) [07:39:30] 03(FIXED) Automatic disambiguation pages (5) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36421 (10denny vrandecic) [07:40:24] 03(FIXED) Research and design search for Wikidata (21) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36417 (10denny vrandecic) [07:40:34] 03(FIXED) Special:ItemDisambiguation should add a descriptive message when search gives an empty list (2) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40183 (10denny vrandecic) [07:40:39] 03(FIXED) Default language for ItemDisambiguation (2) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40198 (10denny vrandecic) [07:41:23] 03(FIXED) Special:ItemDisambiguation should add uselang or setlang to result links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40132 +comment (10denny vrandecic) [07:41:30] 03(FIXED) Special:ItemDisambiguation fix action - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40239 (10denny vrandecic) [07:41:47] yeah petan [07:42:01] i dont see $wgArticlePath [07:42:07] so i just create it [07:44:08] 03(FIXED) Special:ItemByTitle fix action - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40236 (10denny vrandecic) [07:44:16] 03(FIXED) Handle property labels in onLinkBegin - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40351 (10denny vrandecic) [07:44:37] !short [07:44:43] !help short [07:44:44] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:short [07:47:47] Is it possible to create a group for my extension [07:49:59] LukeDev: do you mean a user group ? [07:50:15] LukeDev: just add something in wgGroupPermissions [07:50:22] where? [07:50:31] aka: $wgGroupPermissions['some-new-group']['some-right'] [07:50:35] in your extension loader [07:50:52] I'm incompetent [07:51:09] I'm creating a new extension and I haven't made it to an "extension loader" [07:51:14] are you trying to create a new extension ? [07:51:16] k [07:51:55] What would you recommend to create a user group> [07:51:57] ? [07:52:11] read how they work at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:User_rights [07:52:55] you should have a look at an existing extension and look at how they create permissions [07:53:28] LukeDev: example for the EducationProgram extension : http://dpaste.org/ZFrUw/ [07:53:48] that creates a group 'epstaff' with several permissions [07:54:00] the '*' is a special group meaning "anyone on the wiki" [07:54:24] 03(FIXED) Shrink amount of test data in our dev repo (1) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40216 (10denny vrandecic) [07:54:51] 03(mod) Implement datatypes (8) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40223 (10denny vrandecic) [07:55:00] 03(mod) Datatype-selector-widget - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40224 (10denny vrandecic) [07:55:08] 03(mod) Enforce uniqueness of language+label for properties (2) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40225 (10denny vrandecic) [07:55:14] 03(mod) Properties have a datatype (5) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40226 (10denny vrandecic) [07:55:29] 03(mod) Properties have a datatype (5) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40226 (10denny vrandecic) [07:55:30] 03(mod) Special:Create property (8) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40227 (10denny vrandecic) [07:55:44] 03(mod) Special:Create property (8) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40227 (10denny vrandecic) [07:55:45] 03(mod) Properties have a datatype (5) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40226 (10denny vrandecic) [07:56:01] 03(mod) Properties have a datatype (5) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40226 (10denny vrandecic) [07:56:03] 03(mod) Special:Create property (8) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40227 (10denny vrandecic) [07:56:29] 03(mod) Static PropertyView (8) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40229 (10denny vrandecic) [07:56:31] 03(mod) Properties have a datatype (5) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40226 (10denny vrandecic) [07:56:34] New patchset: Hashar; "(bug 40098) Don't parse the section's name in the summary when creating a new section" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf11) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24270 [07:56:37] New patchset: Hashar; "(bug 40098) Don't parse the section's name in the summary when creating a new section" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf12) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24271 [07:56:50] 03(mod) Dynamic PropertyView (8) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40230 (10denny vrandecic) [07:56:51] 03(mod) Create ApiModifyEntity and refactor - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40301 (10denny vrandecic) [07:57:04] 03(mod) Generalize Selenium tests so they work for items and properties (8) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40231 (10denny vrandecic) [07:57:15] 03(mod) List all datatypes (3) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40232 (10denny vrandecic) [07:59:55] New patchset: Siebrand; "Replace deprecated methods with current equivalents" [mediawiki/extensions/FlaggedRevs] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24420 [08:04:21] * hashar is upgrading the Jenkins / Gerrit plugin. Jenkins restarting [08:09:18] Change merged: Hashar; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf11) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24270 [08:09:26] Change merged: Hashar; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf12) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24271 [08:11:55] New patchset: Henning Snater; "putting disable/enable functionality into a separate extension" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24134 [08:12:32] 03(FIXED) Wrong edit summary generation when adding a new discussion section - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40098 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [08:33:13] Hello, the itwikibooks community has asked for a new 'flood' flag - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=39569 [08:37:50] 03(FIXED) Exported EPUB files switch off font resizing in webkit eBook readers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40330 +comment (10Volker Haas) [08:45:10] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24315 [08:45:34] New patchset: Raimond Spekking; "Register Carp extension" [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24421 [08:46:20] Change merged: Raimond Spekking; [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24421 [08:48:26] mutante hi [08:48:32] can you create a labs project for me [08:56:07] 03(mod) Cloned tables for unitests do not have references and constraints - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37702 +comment (10Marcin Cieślak) [08:58:55] hello all [08:59:13] I have a very simple question.. any chance someone can give some quick help? [08:59:47] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24290 [09:00:38] I am making a wiki about a town for expats and tourists.. (Hua Hin). Now specific pages like just the hua hin page can be exactly the same as the wikipedia page. Is there any chance I can make 3 or 4 pages like the wikipedia ones automatically. If I just copy paste that source it is missing templates. [09:00:53] New patchset: Siebrand; "Maintenance for FlaggedRevs extension." [mediawiki/extensions/FlaggedRevs] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24422 [09:01:19] anyone here active? [09:02:35] ah shame.. was hoping to be able to carry on building it. [09:02:58] manouhh: try [[Special:Export]], check ''Include templates' [09:03:46] so I can copy the edit page from wikipedia insert it into my edit page and than add that? [09:04:03] or do something else as well strang. [09:05:13] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24300 [09:06:09] New patchset: Siebrand; "Moar maintenance for Translate." [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24408 [09:06:16] manouhh: on wikipedia, export the xml with the pages&templates you need, then save the xml file, then open your wiki and follow the instructions at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Importing_XML_dumps [09:06:41] New review: Siebrand; "Issues from comments resolved in PS2." [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24408 [09:07:17] New patchset: Siebrand; "Collection maintenance." [mediawiki/extensions/Collection] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/18443 [09:07:40] New patchset: Siebrand; "Maintenance for LiquidThreads extension." [mediawiki/extensions/LiquidThreads] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/20846 [09:07:49] okay strang I will try thanks a lot for your help [09:07:52] New patchset: Siebrand; "(bug 34586) Change allowed feedback length from 140 to 500" [mediawiki/extensions/MoodBar] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/21034 [09:08:03] New patchset: Siebrand; "Maintenance for CentralAuth extension." [mediawiki/extensions/CentralAuth] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/21542 [09:08:24] 03(NEW) Set user language to current UI language when creating accounts. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40379 normal; MediaWiki: User login; (daniel.kinzler) [09:10:22] 03(mod) Set user language to current UI language when creating accounts. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40379 normal->15enhancement; +easy +i18n +wikidata (10Daniel Kinzler) [09:10:54] 03(mod) Create ApiModifyEntity and refactor (8) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40301 summary (10denny vrandecic) [09:12:17] 03(mod) Create ApiModifyEntity and refactor (8) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40301 (10denny vrandecic) [09:20:28] 03(WONTFIX) Refactor ItemDisambiguation into base class and a subclass - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40368 +comment (10denny vrandecic) [09:21:06] 03(mod) Exported EPUB files switch off font resizing in webkit eBook readers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40330 +comment (10Andrew Homer) [09:22:12] 03(mod) apply dir="ltr" to the language codes in "List of pages linked to this item" (1) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40237 summary (10denny vrandecic) [09:23:11] 03(mod) apply correct lang and dir attributes to language names in "List of pages linked to this item" (2) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40238 summary (10denny vrandecic) [09:26:21] New review: Nischayn22; "The MapEditor only supports GoogleMaps currently, so maybe we can improve this code when the MapEdit..." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMaps] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23942 [09:30:15] 03(mod) Description input field on items list is LTR in an RTL environment - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40247 +comment (10denny vrandecic) [09:30:29] 03(mod) Description input field on items list is LTR in an RTL environment (5) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40247 summary (10denny vrandecic) [09:30:49] 03(mod) Description input field on items list is LTR in an RTL environment (5) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40247 +comment (10Daniel Kinzler) [09:33:04] 03(NEW) Upload Wizard cannot find all JS resources in Romanian - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40380 major; Wikimedia: Site configuration; (crangasi2001) [09:34:23] 03(mod) Broken autocomplete for Arabic scripts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40300 +comment (10denny vrandecic) [09:34:28] 03(NEW) Change API to always use qualified IDs. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40381 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; (daniel.kinzler) [09:34:33] 03(NEW) UploadWizard is "asleep" − the page never loads. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40382 critical; MediaWiki: Uploading; (ch.mabot) [09:34:42] 03(mod) Broken autocomplete for Arabic scripts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40300 +need-volunteer (10denny vrandecic) [09:35:53] New review: Martineznovo; "@Reedy: Thanks for your review. I didn't found anything about that utility function you mentioned on..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23984 [09:36:15] siebrand: there is a bug in wfm12 where UW is broken for languages with plural rules. see bug 40380.. [09:36:32] 03(NEW) UploadWizard does not load for specific language interfaces - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40383 normal; MediaWiki extensions: UploadWizard; (jeanfrederic.wiki) [09:36:50] 03(mod) UploadWizard is "asleep" − the page never loads. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40382 (10Michal Reiter) [09:36:53] lol, that's 3 tickets within minutes [09:36:56] 03(mod) UploadWizard does not load for specific language interfaces - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40383 (10Jean-Fred) [09:37:23] 14(DUP) UploadWizard does not load for specific language interfaces - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40383 +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [09:37:26] 03(mod) Upload Wizard cannot find all JS resources in Romanian - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40380 +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [09:37:45] 14(DUP) UploadWizard is "asleep" − the page never loads. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40382 +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [09:37:46] 03(mod) Upload Wizard cannot find all JS resources in Romanian - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40380 +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [09:38:27] 03(mod) Upload Wizard cannot find all JS resources in several languages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40380 summary (10Strainu) [09:39:05] 03(mod) Upload Wizard cannot find all JS resources in several languages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40380 +comment (10Strainu) [09:40:19] 03(mod) Upload Wizard cannot find all JS resources in several languages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40380 +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [09:41:09] 03(mod) Upload Wizard cannot find all JS resources in several languages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40380 +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [09:42:36] 03(mod) Upload Wizard cannot find all JS resources in several languages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40380 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [09:44:20] 03(mod) Upload Wizard cannot find all JS resources in several languages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40380 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [09:45:07] New review: Tobias Gritschacher; "there are problems with the selenium tests. have to figure out why they are breaking.." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24134 [09:48:14] 03(mod) Upload Wizard cannot find all JS resources in several languages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40380 +i18n (10Siebrand) [09:49:11] 03(mod) Upload Wizard cannot find all JS resources in several languages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40380 major->04BLOCKER; +comment (10Tomasz W. Kozłowski) [09:49:15] 03(mod) The big Wiki Loves Monuments 2012 tracking bug - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38648 (10Tomasz W. Kozłowski) [10:00:39] New patchset: Hashar; "(bug 40380) inexistent language files are loaded" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24424 [10:01:41] 03(mod) Upload Wizard cannot find all JS resources in several languages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40380 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [10:02:33] New review: Hashar; "restoring files in an emergency so upload wizard works again." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24424 [10:02:33] Change merged: Hashar; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24424 [10:09:25] New patchset: Hashar; "(bug 40380) inexistent language files are loaded" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf12) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24425 [10:09:48] Change merged: Hashar; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf12) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24425 [10:12:44] New review: Hashar; "syncing on live site with:" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf12) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24425 [10:14:23] 03(mod) Upload Wizard cannot find all JS resources in several languages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40380 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [10:14:54] 03(mod) Upload Wizard cannot find all JS resources in several languages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40380 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [10:20:25] On it.wikibooks.org, the community has decided to ask for a 'flood editor' flag (bug 39569). Consensus @ http://it.wikibooks.org/wiki/Wikibooks:Bar#flood_flag with no objections from community. When will it become effective? Is the bug report correct / anything we can do to fix it? [10:22:02] 'we' - I mean 'the community' [10:23:05] 03(mod) invalid xml node "4::tags" in API response - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40299 +comment (10bianjiang) [10:25:07] strang: when someone files it in bugzilla, then when someone completes the gerrit changeset and then when someone else merges it onto the cluster [10:25:34] 03(mod) Hashable should use SHA-1 and not MD5 (2) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39506 summary (10denny vrandecic) [10:29:23] New patchset: Raimond Spekking; "Show edit link only to user with the editinterface right" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralAuth] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24426 [10:32:21] New review: Nischayn22; "I do remember things, and see how I made silly mistakes a month earlier :P" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/19378 [10:33:45] hi all, can i ask??,,.. is LDAP supported on mediawiki??? [10:35:25] p858snake|l_: ok. It has been filed as [[bugzilla:39569]], who is the guy in charge of the 'gerrit changeset' so I can ping him? [10:37:18] 03(mod) Upload Wizard cannot find all JS resources in several languages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40380 04BLOCKER->major (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [10:46:20] strang: which ever volunteer that decides to deditate their free time in doing it [10:55:17] Hello, I have a question. We want to use a Wiki as support for an online plattform. I am currently working on a possibility to give the end-user support. Maybe you could tell me which of the following solutions you would suggest. The following Requirements should be covered 1) Documentation who asked the question, when the Question has been asked and the possibility to automatically inform the questioner about answers 2) it shou [10:55:52] Sorry its to long [10:56:23] 3) There should be a possibility to categorize the questions and maybe display on different articles. (Topic related and on a support Page) 4) Bugs should be reported but listed in a different category. I thought about liquid threads or flow (input from :sumanah). I am not sure if my requirements can be covered by this. My own thought was to include an external page. The user Input would be done on our wikipage and the data is s [10:56:44] The Data than is imported to the wikipage via a plugin or something similar. Thanks in advance for your help! Aron [10:59:46] New review: Netbrain; "Im going back on my previous statement.. You should NEVER duplicate code, instead you should extract..." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMaps] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23942 [11:05:30] 03(FIXED) Upload Wizard cannot find all JS resources in several languages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40380 +comment (10Tomasz W. Kozłowski) [11:07:05] p858snake|l_: ok [11:07:08] 03(NEW) HTML validation: Attribute width/height not allowed on element button at this point - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40384 normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (ed.palmer) [11:12:19] 03(mod) Search bar icon/button slightly lower when html5 mode is enabled - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30525 +comment (10Aryeh Gregor) [11:15:31] 03(NEW) HTML validation: Bad value edit for attribute rel on element link: Keyword edit is not registered. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40385 normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (ed.palmer) [11:16:18] 03(mod) Change API to always use qualified IDs (13) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40381 summary (10denny vrandecic) [11:24:10] if someone did a rebase for a patchset and mixed it up with new changes, is there a workflow described somewhere how to clean this up afterwards? [11:26:57] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "Putting the map editor into it's own repo seems like to much overhead given that there is no decent ..." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMaps] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23942 [11:26:58] AryehGregor: hmm, so now things that used to have 0 height, might get the line-height inherited ? [11:27:13] thedj[work], I don't actually know the full implications. [11:27:46] AryehGregor: I think we see this with the locator images of maps.... i thought setting the line-height to the image height was the trick, but setting line-height to 0 seems like what we were after. [11:27:48] I think the major implication is for s -- per spec, they're inline boxes, so they take up a full line's height even if they're much shorter. [11:27:51] Something like that. [11:27:57] Yeah, that should work, I think. [11:28:21] It means the image will rise above the line, which will cause it to stretch. [11:28:25] Just like superscripts or whatever. [11:28:38] big change .... /me checks the protection lock and FA star badges... [11:29:07] AryehGregor: thanks for finding that. Will be helpful ! [11:29:37] * AryehGregor didn't exactly "find" it, just knows about it, because he works on standards [11:29:55] AryehGregor: btw, would you happen to know a browser extension or something that is able to override the doctype declaration of pages you view ? [11:30:37] or render mode. [11:31:04] thedj[work], in IE you can change the document mode from developer tools. I'm not aware of anything for other browsers, offhand. It would have to reload the page -- quirks mode can affect parsing. [11:31:44] (specifically, doesn't appear to auto-close

in quirks mode) [11:32:01] AryehGregor !!!!! we are missing ya :-D [11:32:09] (yep, that seems accurate) [11:32:19] hasharEat, I tend to arise briefly from the dead if people have web standards questions. [11:32:19] hrmmm, what is hasharEat eating? [11:32:54] !g 24407 | hashar [11:32:55] hashar: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#q,24407,n,z [11:33:24] jeremyb-phone2: hard to translate. Zucchini gratin, beef, and some peach pie. All home made \O/ [11:33:39] aha [11:33:42] AryehGregor: we have enabled wgHTML5 this week [11:33:45] hashar, yeah, I saw. [11:33:53] AryehGregor: going to be a ton of fun fixing everything [11:33:56] AryehGregor: thx for the info. the html5 switch seems to go without major disasters so far. [11:33:58] :) [11:34:27] hmm, seems the topicons are also affected to some degree. [11:34:34] jeremyb-phone2: oh so I sent a dupe ? :-D [11:34:41] hashar: i dont see a strong connection to the bug you named in 24419 so left it out of my commit msg [11:35:14] hashar: yah ;) i mentioned it on the thread even [11:37:44] abandoned mine, commented your [11:39:08] did you read the linked msg? [11:40:26] 14(WFM) Pages don't load under ipv6+chromium / bits.wikimedia.org doesn't answer http requests - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39322 +comment (10Marcin Cieślak) [11:40:46] jeremyb-phone2: which link ? ;) [11:42:16] hashar: my review on 24407 [11:42:26] bbiab [11:42:55] 03(mod) Pages don't load under ipv6+chromium / bits.wikimedia.org doesn't answer http requests - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39322 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [11:43:32] jeremyb: ahh make sense :) [11:44:05] hashar: my ISP is allegedly offering DualStack Lite; I almost took the offer (needs a FritzBox router) but this means moving my IPv4 somewhere out of control [11:45:06] I don't even know what DualStack lite is haha [11:45:52] way to get IPv6 - you get IPv6 subnet natively; but your CPE is giving you 192.168.100.X IPv4 addresses that are tunneled over IPv6 to the central ISPs NAT [11:46:00] ah private v4 over v6 and then NATed to public v4 on ISP border [11:46:03] seems nasty [11:46:07] yeah [11:46:14] looks like the future though [11:46:14] I think Orange did so in France [11:46:42] 03(mod) Broken autocomplete for Arabic scripts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40300 +comment (10Srikanth Logic) [11:46:56] definitely a nice way to achieve transition [11:47:10] but I would not name that an internet access anymore [11:47:32] that is a good transitionning system though [11:47:51] my ISP as something similar albeit it is pure v6 [11:48:03] 6-rd http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv6_rapid_deployment [11:48:40] 03(NEW) Installation of FormatNum on sl.wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40386 normal; Wikimedia: Extension setup; (smihael) [11:48:42] by the time the inventor came to the ISP to the first deployement, it has been only a matter of a few weeks [11:49:23] 6rd is 6to4 with better inflow traffic control [11:50:21] 03(mod) apply dir="ltr" to the language codes in "List of pages linked to this item" (1) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40237 (10denny vrandecic) [11:50:34] 03(mod) apply correct lang and dir attributes to language names in "List of pages linked to this item" (2) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40238 (10denny vrandecic) [11:50:48] I have met google and Facebook v6 engineers, they congratulated me for being a subscriber of that ISP ;-D [11:50:48] will try to work with my ISP techs to keep my normal IPv4 and try to get IPv6 subnet out of the ds-lite provisioning [11:50:54] yes [11:50:54] 03(mod) Description input field on items list is LTR in an RTL environment (5) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40247 (10denny vrandecic) [11:50:59] free.fr is a leader [11:51:07] 03(mod) Broken autocomplete for Arabic scripts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40300 +comment (10Srikanth Logic) [11:51:11] 03(mod) Wikibase changes in client's recent changes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40355 (10denny vrandecic) [11:51:19] 03(mod) Wikidata diffs for the client - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40357 (10denny vrandecic) [11:51:28] 03(mod) Wikidata changes in article history - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40358 (10denny vrandecic) [11:51:41] 03(mod) Change API to always use qualified IDs (13) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40381 (10denny vrandecic) [11:52:08] off to find out why my Jenkins in dev does not start anymore [11:52:35] yes [11:53:02] and don't forget about PostgreSQL :) https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37602 [11:53:12] that is like very low priority right now :( [11:53:44] once you get high after fixing the critical problem it's easy to deal with such peanuts [11:54:49] yeah free.r is quite nice in that regard. /me knows someone who built their IPTV (one of the VideoLAN founders) [11:55:51] So I just updated my mediawiki installation, and the update procedure went seemingly well [11:56:00] but now Im getting errors when accessing the site.. http://uara.connect-utb.com/ [11:56:25] I gather that its something to do with file/folder permissions or something.. but searching the problem didnt yield much results [11:56:28] any ideas? [11:58:02] Untouchab1e: there is a problem with your skin [11:58:19] saper: you're right! I just realized that myself.. skin needs updating [11:58:21] thanks! [11:58:27] there were major changes [11:58:41] not sure how old your MW was, but switching to something standard will do for now [11:58:48] 03(mod) Content handler for different types of wiki content (5) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36450 15enhancement->04BLOCKER (10denny vrandecic) [11:58:48] 03(mod) Deploy wikidata.org with the Wikidata repository - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40000 (10denny vrandecic) [11:59:27] saper: how do I switch (since I cant access admin settings) [11:59:58] 03(mod) Design JavaScript API for item (5) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38174 (10denny vrandecic) [12:00:07] edit LocalSettings.php [12:00:26] and change the line to $wgDefaultSkin = "vector"; [12:00:26] saper: ah, thanks [12:00:56] your site will be as ugly as Wikipedia [12:01:32] http://uara.connect-utb.com/?useskin=vector :) [12:01:36] haha, thanks [12:01:43] works great now [12:02:00] speaking of permissions, though, any guides to proper file/folder permissions for a mediawiki installation? [12:02:04] have fun [12:02:33] now I no longer see the error message [12:02:48] but lots of stuff have changed so it might be everything [12:13:03] 03(mod) Preview broken on thread reply posting/edit (nothing happens) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40083 +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [12:13:32] 03(NEW) Rename noexternalinterlang to noexternallanglinks (1) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40387 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataClient; (denny.vrandecic) [12:14:41] 03(NEW) Tests for noexternallanglinks (5) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40388 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataClient; (denny.vrandecic) [12:18:58] 03(NEW) Set up and test the pretty URLs for Wikidata - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40389 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; (denny.vrandecic) [12:18:58] 03(mod) Resolve pretty URLs based on Wikipedia titles to the appropriate pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36419 (10denny vrandecic) [12:19:12] 03(mod) Set up and test the pretty URLs for Wikidata (5) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40389 summary (10denny vrandecic) [12:26:16] hello, i'm news on mediawiki and i search how i can partitionner une page pour pouvoir editer des sections. example ( http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Images/fr) We can see a edit under each article. (sorry for my english i'm french) [12:26:58] hello, i'm news on mediawiki and i search how i can partition a page in order to edit sections. example ( http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Images/fr) We can see a edit under each article. (sorry for my english i'm french) [12:28:14] Brouxy: you just missed a frenchman by a few mins [12:28:47] Brouxy: you have edit section links? [12:29:37] jeremyb: no [12:31:28] jeremyb: i have create i page but when I change somtinks it's a lot of code I would cut my articles then i can just edit bous of [12:38:43] 03(mod) Special:LastModified design/output - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37895 +comment (10Hydra) [12:39:46] New patchset: Hydriz; "Changing wgMainPageTitle to use wgPageName." [mediawiki/extensions/LastModified] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24428 [12:40:30] 03(WONTFIX) Upgrade visitors' computers running Windows/MSIE 6,7,8 or 9 to a secure browser - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40328 normal->15enhancement; +comment (10Andre Klapper) [12:45:02] Brouxy: sorry, i don't understand [12:45:22] 03(NEW) Check existing code to see where it works only for items but should work for entities (13) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40390 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; (denny.vrandecic) [12:46:57] jeremyb: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Images/fr on this page on the page we can edit section not all page [12:47:12] how i can dow the same tinks ^^ [12:49:33] Brouxy: do you have access to LocalSettings.php ? does it mention editsection in there? [12:51:17] Having one last issue after upgrading mediawiki.. it complains about my iamges [12:51:18] images* [12:51:26] Error creating thumbnail: File seems to be missing: [12:51:34] but the images are present [12:53:52] $ git grep -Fn -e "'editsection'" -e 'wgDefaultUserOptions = ' -- includes/DefaultSettings.php [12:53:55] includes/DefaultSettings.php:3510: * $wgDefaultUserOptions ['editsection'] = 0; [12:53:58] includes/DefaultSettings.php:3513:$wgDefaultUserOptions = array( [12:53:59] nvm, resolved it [12:54:01] includes/DefaultSettings.php:3522: 'editsection' => 1, [12:54:13] jeremyb: please pastebin [12:54:20] http://bpaste.net/ [12:54:23] Untouchab1e: it wasn't that long... [12:56:03] how do i find a frenchman... [12:58:17] 03(NEW) Prefix search over all labels and aliases (5) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40391 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; (denny.vrandecic) [12:58:33] Thehelpfulone: any hints? I had a gander at /names but idk who speaks french [12:59:13] (bas_ile is 20 hrs idle) [12:59:54] 03(NEW) API for entity search (8) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40392 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; (denny.vrandecic) [12:59:56] 03(mod) Prefix search over all labels and aliases (5) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40391 (10denny vrandecic) [13:01:47] 03(NEW) Design the entity selector widget (8) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40393 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; (denny.vrandecic) [13:01:54] 03(FIXED) Use css classing instead of on Special:Special Pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/26442 +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [13:02:29] 03(mod) Check existing code to see where it works only for items but should work for entities (13) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40390 (10jeblad) [13:05:52] jeremyb: tanks i test what say me :) [13:10:05] 03(mod) Pages don't load under ipv6+chromium / bits.wikimedia.org doesn't answer http requests - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39322 +comment (10Thomas Capricelli) [13:10:46] 03(NEW) Spam Issues - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40394 blocker; Spam: Spam; (headerfuturetree) [13:12:34] wtf? > I could only find the low-fat Spam at the supermarket. I complained to the store assistant and he told me that the next Spam deliverywill be on Tuesday. [13:12:39] ;-) [13:13:19] 03(NEW) WIKIPEDIA NEEDS TO BE SHUT DOWN TO FIX THIS PROBLEM - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40395 critical; Wikipedia App: Search; (headerfuturetree) [13:13:35] ok, time for a bz admin [13:13:57] What 'App' does this refer to ? [13:14:17] bootlkhtg: mobile app [13:15:14] ok that's fine [13:15:33] 03(mod) Non-Wikipedia mobile domains use Wikipedia's SSL certificate - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34788 +comment (10Harry Helmet) [13:15:50] 14(INVALID) WIKIPEDIA NEEDS TO BE SHUT DOWN TO FIX THIS PROBLEM - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40395 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [13:16:05] so who's admin? [13:16:24] ...for Bugzilla? [13:16:32] andre__: there's a possibly wrong list at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/System_administrators [13:16:36] andre__: i'm hunting for one [13:17:33] * andre__ wondering if robla has Bugzilla admin powers [13:18:16] andre__: i think i found one [13:18:27] hashar: we could use a translator [13:18:46] I knew I should not have restarted my irc client :-D [13:18:47] 03(NEW) BUGZILLA IS A PIECE OF SHIT - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40396 critical; Wiktionary App: Wiktionary; (headerfuturetree) [13:18:48] go ahead! [13:18:52] haha [13:18:57] andre__: je parle français ;-) [13:18:58] jeremyb: who (or which channel)? I'd like to add a comment on this topic [13:19:33] 03(WONTFIX) BUGZILLA IS A PIECE OF SHIT - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40396 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [13:19:39] hah [13:20:01] Hi, i am a newbie here,,, and wanted to start contributing to wikimedia .. any pointers/tips where i could start? [13:20:02] hashar: so, Brouxy is asking for editsection links. i asked if they have access to LocalSettings.php and no answer [13:20:09] 03(mod) BUGZILLA IS A PIECE OF SHIT - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40396 (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [13:20:10] 03(mod) RESOLVED HUMOROUS (TRACKING) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29079 (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [13:20:30] 03(mod) BUGZILLA IS A PIECE OF SHIT - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40396 (10Harry Helmet) [13:20:31] 03(mod) RESOLVED HUMOROUS (TRACKING) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29079 (10Harry Helmet) [13:20:39] aha [13:20:49] Guest12039: do you want to edit articles or help with the infrastructure ? ;) [13:20:51] hashar: looking at DefaultSettings.php I see that they should be on by default [13:20:58] Guest12039: you could do boths [13:21:19] hashar: or alternatively, they've turned them off in their own personal prefs? [13:21:24] help with the infrastructure... i have previous experience in coding...and now would like to apply it here :) [13:21:28] jeremyb: I'd still like to know who has admin rights, if possible... [13:21:31] jeremyb: I have no idea about edit section links. I think they have been added as a js hack originally then eventually made a feature in core. [13:21:38] 03(mod) WIKIPEDIA NEEDS TO BE SHUT DOWN TO FIX THIS PROBLEM - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40395 (10Ariel T. Glenn) [13:21:41] Seems someone is pissed enough to waste everyone's time today ! [13:21:45] jeremyb: might be a personal pref . Sorry I don't know [13:21:46] andre__ on bz? [13:21:50] andre__: i think the link i gave is the best you'll get [13:21:54] we need a way to ban people from bugzilla btw [13:22:00] hashar: can you discuss with Brouxy ? [13:22:07] hashar, especially as this is the guy's second account already [13:22:07] hashar: we have a way [13:22:26] jeremyb, sigh, okay. well, it's a single query in Bugzilla to find out (for somebody who is already admin) [13:22:34] Brouxy: besoin d'aide ? [13:22:39] I am former bz admin, but there aren't many now [13:23:01] 03(mod) Enable Narayam Bengali wikipedia & Wikibooks projects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40366 +comment (10Jayanta Nath) [13:23:09] I got *some* admin rights [13:23:31] hashar: in case that you can query for users, you can also query for users in the admin group :P [13:23:33] anyway [13:23:35] apparently I can remove some users from a group :D [13:23:50] yes I can actually grant myself admin :)) even if I am not [13:24:04] I have these rights to modify others rights [13:24:07] petan: how do you figure? [13:24:14] no, i don't think you can [13:24:26] jeremyb I don't really care [13:24:32] I used to be admin there anyway [13:24:40] ok... [13:24:45] for some reason I am not anymore, dunno why [13:24:56] 03(NEW) Namespace translations can break core namspeaces - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40397 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; (daniel.kinzler) [13:25:04] but I still can grant rights to othesr [13:25:06] * others [13:25:32] 03(mod) BUGZILLA IS A PIECE OF SHIT - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40396 (10Ariel T. Glenn) [13:25:48] 14(INVALID) Spam Issues - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40394 (10Ariel T. Glenn) [13:26:01] 03(mod) Non-Wikipedia mobile domains use Wikipedia's SSL certificate - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34788 (10Ariel T. Glenn) [13:26:06] ok, hid those [13:26:09] aha, I can't give all rights to people, but I can create a new group, give it admin rights and then give it to myself [13:26:10] :D [13:26:12] some people will get mai they didn't need to [13:26:23] that's all he touched I guess [13:26:30] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "Mtyeh411, sorry for the long wait, but I will need to look into git submodules further to make an in..." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22064 [13:27:34] hashar: salut [13:27:38] oui j'ai une petite question [13:27:52] c'est surement un truc bete mais je debute sous mediawiki [13:28:36] Brouxy: je t'écoute :) [13:28:51] Brouxy: on va passer en privé en fait, ça évitera d'arroser en français dans ce canal :-D [13:29:10] switching to private to avoid spamming you with some french words :-D [13:30:04] 03(mod) bits.wikimedia.org don't load over 6to4 connection via Hurricane Electric - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39322 +ipv6; summary (10Marcin Cieślak) [13:30:15] apergos: thanks. I'm pretty sure that this was the same person in bugzilla that used the account earlier today already (and also got shut down), so if the third account pops up I'd consider loking at his IP [13:30:42] I expect it's the same person yes [13:36:06] 03(mod) bits.wikimedia.org don't load over 6to4 connection via Hurricane Electric - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39322 +comment (10jeremyb) [13:38:09] New patchset: Mwjames; "SRF PageWidget enable the display of embedded pages as carousel/slideshow" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24429 [13:39:12] 04(REOPENED) bits.wikimedia.org don't load over 6to4 connection via Hurricane Electric - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39322 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [13:40:13] New patchset: Mwjames; "Add messages" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24430 [13:40:13] New patchset: Mwjames; "SRF PageWidget which enables a carousel widget for embedded page content" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24429 [13:40:25] 03(NEW) datatype URL creates invalid link with four slashes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40398 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; (karin.haenelt) [13:40:58] 03(mod) bits.wikimedia.org don't load over 6to4 connection via Hurricane Electric - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39322 +comment (10Marcin Cieślak) [13:41:39] :[ Why does the maintenance script need l10n_cache? [13:45:34] svip: which maintenance script ? :-D update.php ? [13:45:34] ^demon: Them maintenance scripts don't work well when you have a separate DB for your user table. [13:46:01] hashar: Any, actually, but it's actually removeUnusedAccounts.php, which I cannot IMAGINE needs l10n_cache. [13:47:22] <^demon> svip: Blame their authors? I didn't write most of the maintenance scripts, I just refactored the whole lot :) [13:47:45] <^demon> Which somehow overtime has turned into me owning maintenance/ ;-) [13:47:58] 03(mod) bits.wikimedia.org don't load over 6to4 connection via Hurricane Electric - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39322 +comment (10Thomas Capricelli) [13:48:04] lol [13:48:27] well don't we start up the l10n cache on any request ? [13:48:45] That's what I fear might happen. [13:48:53] <^demon> Yeah, but on a lot of maintenance scripts it's useless overhead probably. [13:49:27] Not only that, but it breaks maintenance on any set up with multiple DBs (such as a wikifarm/family). [13:50:05] Maintenance.php: require_once( MWInit::compiledPath( 'includes/Setup.php' ) ); [13:50:06] Setup.php: $wgContLang = Language::factory( $wgLanguageCode ); [13:50:07] so yeah [13:50:11] we load l10n ;-D [13:50:11] <^demon> Well, depends on your setup. Works for wmf ;-) [13:50:30] ^demon: wmf also have their own branch! [13:50:50] <^demon> Which is just master with a few hacks. [13:50:53] wmf branches are just snapshots [13:50:56] <^demon> Nothing super duper special there [13:51:05] New review: Mwjames; "Well it does what it says ... I'll keep it open for a day/or two otherwise it is going to merge" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master); V: 1 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24429 [13:51:51] ^demon: Perhaps, but those hacks are clearly enough. [13:52:04] Maybe they store a l10n_cache in their centralauth-DB. [13:52:08] so what is wrong with your l10n cache ? [13:52:20] <^demon> L10n_cache is in CDB. It's not a hack, just config. [13:52:21] That it doesn't exist in the DB it is looking. [13:52:29] <^demon> (Nothing prevents anyone from doing the same) [13:52:34] True. [13:52:43] But this was not mentioned in the centralauth guide originally. [13:52:43] try rebuilding it with rebuildLocalisationCache.php maybe ? [13:52:48] (Although, this was a few years ago!) [13:53:02] 03(mod) bits.wikimedia.org don't load over 6to4 connection via Hurricane Electric - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39322 +comment (10Thomas Capricelli) [13:53:03] <^demon> svip: Well, CentralAuth is a huge hack that nobody should use but us. [13:53:10] <^demon> Really, we never should've used it either :p [13:53:32] I only use it now to combine my user table and some other tables among several wikis. [13:53:39] The actual centralauth features are no longer in use. [13:53:46] The DB name is a legacy thing now. [13:55:15] 03(mod) abbr element broken in IE 6 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24778 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [13:56:49] <^demon> svip: In any case, "maintenance scripts break when L10n_cache is set to the database" sounds like a bug. Toss it in BZ and throw people who wrote L10n_cache on the CC. [13:57:18] <^demon> (maintenance rewrite pre-dated l10n_cache, fwiw) [13:57:20] Hmmm... What you mean 'set to the database'? [13:57:48] <^demon> The default is to use the l10n_cache table in the database for LCStore. [13:57:55] <^demon> Clearly this doesn't break when you're using CDB. [14:00:00] 03(mod) bits.wikimedia.org don't load over 6to4 connection via Hurricane Electric - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39322 +comment (10jeremyb) [14:05:37] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "One small issue, looks good otherwise." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24429 [14:06:09] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "Since this has a dependency, feel free to merge and just follow up with fix. The issue is not that s..." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24429 [14:06:21] New review: Yaron Koren; "Okay, that's very helpful - it looks like it'll be too hard to make it backwards-compatible. It does..." [mediawiki/extensions/AdminLinks] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12999 [14:12:22] Are these spam bots doing something to appear in a log, so they don't count as unused accounts? [14:12:47] New patchset: Mwjames; "SRF PageWidget enable the display of embedded pages as carousel/slideshow" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24429 [14:14:52] Change merged: Mwjames; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24429 [14:15:19] New patchset: Mwjames; "Add messages" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24430 [14:15:34] Change merged: Mwjames; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24430 [14:16:12] Look at all these useless accounts: http://theinfosphere.org/Special:Log/newusers [14:18:50] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "Don't assume main namespace contains wikitext" [mediawiki/core] (Wikidata) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24314 [14:20:57] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "self-approving test fixes for dev branch" [mediawiki/core] (Wikidata); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24314 [14:20:58] Change merged: Daniel Kinzler; [mediawiki/core] (Wikidata) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24314 [14:21:53] New review: Tobias Gritschacher; "Well, here is what I found out:" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24134 [14:22:05] Ah! Apparently a major bug in removeUnusedAccounts is not fixed. [14:22:09] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34581 [14:29:49] 03(mod) bits.wikimedia.org don't load over 6to4 connection via Hurricane Electric - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39322 +comment (10Marcin Cieślak) [14:34:14] 03(NEW) URLs to Wikipedia articles should be used as returned by the API (8) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40399 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; (denny.vrandecic) [14:35:10] 03(mod) URLs to Wikipedia articles should be used as returned by the API (8) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40399 (10denny vrandecic) [14:35:10] 03(mod) Move the items to the main namespace on the test repo (5) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38961 (10denny vrandecic) [14:35:25] 03(mod) Move the items to the main namespace on the test repo (5) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38961 (10denny vrandecic) [14:38:13] anyone on [14:38:18] no [14:38:35] !ask illusion__ [14:38:35] Hi, how can we help you? Just ask your question. [14:39:14] 03(FIXED) Add a prompt when more than 4 tags are used on an article less than 1kb in size - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39548 (10Oliver Keyes) [14:39:19] trying to dump a single pagetrying trying to dump a single page through the API. Not getting the text portion [14:40:30] do you have the API URL/call you are using? [14:40:43] is http://yourwiki/wiki/Special:Export working for you? [14:41:06] "http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&prop=info&rvprop=content&format=xml&titles=the beatles [14:42:05] 03(mod) Featuring oversight-requested posts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39410 +comment (10Oliver Keyes) [14:42:07] tried export and didnt get what i was looking for but could just be syntax [14:42:08] 03(mod) Featuring oversight-requested posts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39410 (10Oliver Keyes) [14:42:41] illusion__: what about this? http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&prop=revisions&rvprop=content&format=xml&titles=the%20beatles [14:43:09] im going to pop that into my source code and compile and run to see. gove me a minute [14:43:14] rvprop=content belongs to prop=revisions [14:43:18] not to prop=info [14:43:51] try it by hand if it gives you the info you want [14:44:37] gives a redirect. is that a titling issue [14:44:59] come on [14:45:05] that's what you gave me [14:45:14] 03(FIXED) Actions on your own feedback - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39586 (10Oliver Keyes) [14:45:25] Try http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&prop=revisions&rvprop=content&format=xml&titles=The_Beatles [14:46:02] New review: Werdna; "Yes and yes. LiquidThreads *already* uses LivePreview, and has done for three years. This change is ..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23862 [14:46:03] 03(ASSIGNED) URLs to Wikipedia articles should be used as returned by the API (8) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40399 (10denny vrandecic) [14:46:25] 03(ASSIGNED) Design the entity selector widget (8) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40393 (10denny vrandecic) [14:46:25] and his name was bingo. let me play with parsing this. thx [14:46:27] 03(mod) Resolved - an exclusion filter or different weighting? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39587 +comment (10Oliver Keyes) [14:46:29] 03(ASSIGNED) Namespace translations can break core namspeaces - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40397 (10denny vrandecic) [14:46:38] 03(ASSIGNED) Prefix search over all labels and aliases (5) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40391 (10denny vrandecic) [14:46:44] 03(ASSIGNED) Hashable should use SHA-1 and not MD5 (2) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39506 (10denny vrandecic) [14:46:48] 03(mod) Resolved - an exclusion filter or different weighting? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39587 (10Oliver Keyes) [14:46:52] 03(ASSIGNED) Check existing code to see where it works only for items but should work for entities (13) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40390 (10denny vrandecic) [14:47:01] 03(ASSIGNED) Change API to always use qualified IDs (13) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40381 (10denny vrandecic) [14:47:15] 03(ASSIGNED) Rename noexternalinterlang to noexternallanglinks (1) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40387 (10denny vrandecic) [14:47:21] 03(mod) Talkpage link not appearing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39803 +comment (10Oliver Keyes) [14:47:27] New patchset: Aude; "assign dir='ltr' to site IDs in the site links table, per bug 40237" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24433 [14:47:27] 03(ASSIGNED) Tests for noexternallanglinks (5) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40388 (10denny vrandecic) [14:47:30] 03(ASSIGNED) Wikibase changes in client's recent changes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40355 (10denny vrandecic) [14:47:36] 03(ASSIGNED) Set up and test the pretty URLs for Wikidata (5) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40389 (10denny vrandecic) [14:48:44] 03(mod) API for entity search (8) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40392 (10denny vrandecic) [14:48:51] 03(mod) Rename noexternalinterlang to noexternallanglinks (1) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40387 (10denny vrandecic) [14:48:57] 03(mod) Tests for noexternallanglinks (5) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40388 (10denny vrandecic) [14:49:05] 03(mod) Set up and test the pretty URLs for Wikidata (5) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40389 (10denny vrandecic) [14:49:10] 03(mod) Check existing code to see where it works only for items but should work for entities (13) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40390 (10denny vrandecic) [14:49:17] 03(mod) Prefix search over all labels and aliases (5) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40391 (10denny vrandecic) [14:49:24] 03(mod) Design the entity selector widget (8) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40393 (10denny vrandecic) [14:49:29] New patchset: Aude; "assign dir='ltr' to site IDs in the site links table, per bug 40237" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24433 [14:49:36] 03(mod) Namespace translations can break core namspeaces - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40397 (10denny vrandecic) [14:50:03] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Some cleanup of repo store" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24434 [14:50:15] 03(mod) URLs to Wikipedia articles should be used as returned by the API (8) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40399 (10denny vrandecic) [14:51:12] 03(mod) Design the entity selector widget (8) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40393 +comment (10denny vrandecic) [14:51:27] 03(mod) apply dir="ltr" to the language codes in "List of pages linked to this item" (1) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40237 +patch-in-gerrit; +comment (10Aude) [14:51:49] 03(ASSIGNED) apply dir="ltr" to the language codes in "List of pages linked to this item" (1) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40237 (10Aude) [14:52:28] wow, we're flooding the irc channel :o [14:52:51] talk on IRC instead :) [14:52:57] heh :) [14:54:58] New review: Amire80; "Didn't test, but the code mostly makes sense." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24433 [14:56:05] <^demon> If there's too much botspam, it means you're not talking enough! :) [14:56:13] <^demon> We will continue talking until morale improves. [14:58:54] 03(mod) bits.wikimedia.org don't load over 6to4 connection via Hurricane Electric - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39322 +comment (10Marcin Cieślak) [14:59:38] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Some cleanup of repo store" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24434 [14:59:43] ^demon according to stats these 2 bots talk more than all people together [14:59:55] (average) [15:00:03] it's like 50% - 50% [15:00:09] <^demon> I hate statistics :p [15:00:15] @info [15:00:15] http://bots.wmflabs.org/~wm-bot/dump/%23mediawiki.htm [15:00:17] :D [15:00:21] <^demon> Perception is everything. [15:00:24] 03(NEW) No edit summary when leaving a note after tagging a page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40400 major; MediaWiki extensions: PageTriage; (okeyes) [15:00:49] it's on bottom [15:01:02] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Some cleanup of repo store" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24434 [15:08:35] New patchset: Inez; "Add 'branches' mode to ve.Document.selectNodes method. Tests TBD." [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24436 [15:08:50] New patchset: Mwjames; "SRF Incoming printer" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17165 [15:11:28] 03(FIXED) Resize handle image for Vector dialogs should be reversed in RTL wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28758 (10Amir E. Aharoni) [15:12:07] New review: Aude; "small nitpick" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24211 [15:12:40] New review: Mwjames; "This is just a rebase but can we get a lid on this here now ... if there are no other objections (as..." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master); V: 1 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17165 [15:12:41] New patchset: Inez; "Add 'branches' mode to ve.Document.selectNodes method. Tests TBD." [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24436 [15:14:33] New review: Yaron Koren; "Seems fine to me - how did this work before?" [mediawiki/extensions/Widgets] (master); V: 0 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24387 [15:16:18] 03(mod) Broken autocomplete for Arabic scripts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40300 (10Amir E. Aharoni) [15:17:13] 03(mod) Broken autocomplete for Arabic scripts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40300 +comment (10Amir E. Aharoni) [15:19:35] 14(DUP) Broken autocomplete for Arabic scripts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40300 +comment (10Amir E. Aharoni) [15:19:40] 03(mod) Search suggestion highlighting does not respect grapheme clusters causing wrong rendering for Indic languages. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33242 +comment (10Amir E. Aharoni) [15:19:41] New patchset: Aude; "assign dir='ltr' to site IDs in the site links table, per bug 40237" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24433 [15:22:21] New review: saper; "I don't know. Maybe something is broken with the core?" [mediawiki/extensions/Widgets] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24387 [15:23:14] Change merged: Jens Ohlig; [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24137 [15:23:14] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24135 [15:27:49] 03(mod) Search suggestion highlighting does not respect grapheme clusters causing wrong rendering for Indic languages. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33242 +comment (10Aude) [15:27:56] 03(mod) MobileFrontend: initialize JS on DOM-ready, not window.onload - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40196 +comment (10Jon) [15:29:06] 03(mod) Search suggestion highlighting does not respect grapheme clusters causing wrong rendering for Arabic and Indic scripts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33242 summary (10Amir E. Aharoni) [15:31:29] 03(mod) Exported EPUB files switch off font resizing in webkit eBook readers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40330 +comment (10Krenair) [15:37:12] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24289 [15:40:49] New review: Aude; "More nitpicks..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24211 [15:41:34] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Made modification and deletion updates non-item specific" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24438 [15:43:24] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24304 [15:45:47] 03(mod) API for entity search (8) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40392 +comment (10denny vrandecic) [15:46:10] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "fix indent of autload line" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24439 [15:47:36] 03(mod) Cloned tables for unitests do not have references and constraints - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37702 +comment (10Tim Landscheidt) [15:49:04] 03(mod) Installation of FormatNum on sl.wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40386 normal->15enhancement; +comment (10Krenair) [15:49:56] New review: John Erling Blad; "john@loke[Wikidata] ~/Workspace/core/tests/phpunit> php phpunit.php --verbose --group DataValueExten..." [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master); V: -1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24313 [16:00:24] 03(mod) Search suggestion highlighting does not respect grapheme clusters causing wrong rendering for Arabic and Indic scripts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33242 +comment (10Amir E. Aharoni) [16:03:29] 03(mod) Search suggestion highlighting does not respect grapheme clusters causing wrong rendering for Arabic and Indic scripts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33242 +comment (10Amir E. Aharoni) [16:04:59] New review: John Erling Blad; "Empty file but what the heck" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24294 [16:05:00] Change merged: Jens Ohlig; [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24296 [16:05:00] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24297 [16:05:01] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24294 [16:05:33] 03(mod) Search suggestion highlighting does not respect grapheme clusters causing wrong rendering for Arabic and Indic scripts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33242 +comment (10Aude) [16:06:31] 03(mod) Search suggestion highlighting does not respect grapheme clusters causing wrong rendering for Arabic and Indic scripts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33242 +comment (10Amir E. Aharoni) [16:08:23] New patchset: Jforrester; "Initial commit of the PageCredits extension. This extension gives some attribution to the primary authors of a page in the skin footer at the bottom of the page." [mediawiki/extensions/PageCredits] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24441 [16:09:16] New review: Raylton P. Sousa; "I tested it and it works very well. I did not find any problem in the code also." [mediawiki/extensions/LiquidThreads] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17777 [16:13:05] New review: John Erling Blad; "Passed after commenting out WikibaseLib.php, Wikibase.php and ExampleSettings.php as the errors seem..." [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24313 [16:13:19] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24313 [16:13:27] 03(mod) BUGZILLA IS A PIECE OF SHIT - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40396 (10jeremyb) [16:13:30] Hi! I need a JsonP-API for the latest uploads on Commons. If possible only Wiki Love Monuments and only Pictures. How does this work? [16:20:22] 03(mod) Special:Cite should expand permanent link with current protocol instead of canonical protocol - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40369 +comment (10Krinkle) [16:24:13] 03(mod) Ask additional copyright questions of users claiming "own work" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40255 +comment (10OC) [16:25:21] New patchset: Jforrester; "Initial commit of the PageCredits extension." [mediawiki/extensions/PageCredits] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24442 [16:26:57] New patchset: Jforrester; "Initial commit of the PageCredits extension." [mediawiki/extensions/PageCredits] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24442 [16:27:31] Change abandoned: Jforrester; "Replaced by https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/24442/ per request." [mediawiki/extensions/PageCredits] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24441 [16:27:38] 03(mod) History action should use Language::formatSize to display page size instead of long raw byte count - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35907 +comment (10Krinkle) [16:30:27] New patchset: Jforrester; "Initial commit of the PageCredits extension." [mediawiki/extensions/PageCredits] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24442 [16:32:14] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24434 [16:40:16] Change merged: Kaldari; [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24317 [16:42:15] 03(NEW) {{sections}} needs a date parameter - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40401 normal; MediaWiki extensions: PageTriage; (okeyes) [16:44:03] Could anyone explain how to get thumbnail URLs from Commons files? [16:44:07] 03(mod) bits.wikimedia.org don't load over 6to4 connection via Hurricane Electric - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39322 +comment (10Thomas Capricelli) [16:44:47] 03(mod) bits.wikimedia.org don't load over 6to4 connection via Hurricane Electric - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39322 +comment (10Thomas Capricelli) [16:47:15] 03(mod) bits.wikimedia.org don't load over 6to4 connection via Hurricane Electric - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39322 +comment (10Thomas Capricelli) [16:48:41] 03(mod) bits.wikimedia.org don't load over 6to4 connection via Hurricane Electric - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39322 +comment (10jeremyb) [16:50:02] New review: Umherirrender; "No one interessted in reviewing this change? Please give a comment or merge or abandoned this. Thanks." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4549 [16:50:14] New review: Siebrand; "I think the credits stuff is already available in two ways in core:" [mediawiki/extensions/PageCredits] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24442 [16:51:36] New review: Siebrand; "Oops. URL didn't work." [mediawiki/extensions/PageCredits] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24442 [16:55:30] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24435 [16:57:24] New patchset: Matthias Mullie; "Anonymous actions are identified as "Article Feedback v5"" [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24446 [16:57:27] New review: MarkTraceur; "That's what it does, all right." [mediawiki/extensions/Vector] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24382 [16:57:40] if anyone has windows and ie9... https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Upload_Wizard_feedback#Upload_wizard_not_working_when_I_upload_5_files_at_once_with_each_one_having_a_different_license [16:59:11] Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24397 [17:02:32] 03(mod) bits.wikimedia.org don't load over 6to4 connection via Hurricane Electric - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39322 +comment (10Thomas Capricelli) [17:05:41] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "Worked around hash path inconsistency to unbreak stash file thumbs." [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf12) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24448 [17:06:12] New review: Umherirrender; "Siebrand, are here still issues?" [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaMessages] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22226 [17:07:29] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24438 [17:07:32] Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf12) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24448 [17:07:39] New review: Siebrand; "Can you please document every message that's added in 'en' in 'qqq', and not merge it before that's ..." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24430 [17:09:00] <^demon> MaxSem: Ping. [17:09:10] pong [17:09:16] I'm in a meeting though [17:09:39] <^demon> Ah ok, had a sqlite/phpunit question when you've got a few minutes. [17:09:43] <^demon> No rush. [17:10:12] hi..i am a newbie here.. and i want to start contributing to the development of wikimedia... i just downloaded the code repository and installed xamp ..but cant figure out the next step.. any help? [17:11:25] rohitAgr: Hi! Nice to meet you :) [17:11:35] rohitAgr: Is there anything in particular that you'd like to work on? [17:11:36] New review: Demon; "Couple of nitpicks, but passes basic sanity checks on first full review. Trying to get the tests run..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23528 [17:12:51] marktraceur: hi! i am not too sure..i want to start by fixing bugs or developing extensions and see how it goes? [17:13:17] OK, great! Let's see [17:13:42] rohitAgr: I'm going to take a leap and assume you know some programming, so I won't throw code tutorials at you :) [17:14:05] yeah..i have a decent experience in programming.. :) [17:14:18] rohitAgr: You'll need to request developer access in order to contribute patches more easily, https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developer_access has information [17:14:24] Change merged: Matthias Mullie; [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24392 [17:15:45] 03(NEW) SQLStore3 not yet working? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40402 critical; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; (yaron57) [17:16:52] New review: Umherirrender; "What about passwords and tokens in the log?" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24274 [17:17:01] New patchset: Kaldari; "(bug 40401) add date param to sections tag" [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24449 [17:17:40] rohitAgr: If you want to hunt for a bug to work on, the list of "easy" bugs might be helpful [17:17:45] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=runnamed&namedcmd=Easy%20bugs&list_id=147757 [17:18:00] (if that doesn't work, you may need a bugzilla account) [17:18:20] New review: Aude; "looks good to me, though found use of php namespace in tests/phpunit/includes/site/MediaWikiSiteTest..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23528 [17:18:24] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24439 [17:19:13] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Added prop and query updates" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24450 [17:19:24] marktraceur: yeah i am getting a bugzilla account and requesting for developer access [17:19:47] Great! [17:19:47] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Remove dead global" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24451 [17:21:21] !easy is Bugzilla maintains a list of easy bugs for us, that are considered a good first step for new MediaWiki developers. See https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=runnamed&namedcmd=Easy%20bugs&list_id=147757 for the list. [17:21:21] Key was added [17:21:23] 03(mod) Review and deploy TimedMediaHandler extension (timed media handler) to Wikimedia wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27699 +comment (10Chris Steipp) [17:21:35] Change merged: Kaldari; [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24446 [17:22:35] Change merged: Matthias Mullie; [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24391 [17:22:57] Change merged: Matthias Mullie; [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24449 [17:23:27] 03(mod) File extension letter case treatment should be unified on Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40326 +comment (10Bryan Tong Minh) [17:24:00] 03(mod) Enable Narayam Bengali wikipedia & Wikibooks projects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40366 +shell; +comment (10Nemo_bis) [17:25:02] marktraceur: i need a bit of help in setting the environment though [17:25:29] rohitAgr: Oh! Have you ever installed MediaWiki before? [17:25:40] (or is it already installed?) [17:26:24] New patchset: Kaldari; "bug39548 - Add a prompt on tag submission" [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24384 [17:26:32] marktraceur: i just downloaded the git repository [17:26:38] Ah, K. [17:26:41] and installed the xampp [17:26:43] !install | rohitAgr [17:26:43] rohitAgr: Installing MediaWiki takes between 10 and 30 minutes, and involves uploading/copying files and running the installer script to configure the software. Full instructions can be found in the INSTALL file supplied in the distribution archive. An installation manual can also be found at . See also: !download [17:27:07] You already downloaded everything, so you don't need !download [17:27:16] But that wiki page is very helpful [17:27:27] yeah i saw this page.. but just want to check that downloading code repository is different from installing mediawiki? [17:27:33] Change merged: Kaldari; [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24384 [17:28:02] rohitAgr: Yes, definitely. It's only the download step, you need to run a config script and....well, yes, read the installation page :) [17:28:24] Change merged: Kaldari; [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24309 [17:30:39] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Added sites functionality, a much more generic and flexible version of the existing interwiki code" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23528 [17:30:54] Change merged: Kaldari; [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24230 [17:31:42] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Added sites functionality, a much more generic and flexible version of the existing interwiki code" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23528 [17:31:58] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "Addresses issues in PS3, rebased in PS4" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23528 [17:33:34] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24433 [17:34:57] New patchset: Kaldari; "Fixing typo from change 24384" [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24454 [17:35:12] 03(mod) JPEG with CMYK colourspace not thumbnailed correctly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36346 +comment (10Marco) [17:36:47] marktraceur: ok, is there someway i can get my environment checks reviewed by someone? think there are a few errors.. [17:37:00] 14(DUP) JPEG with CMYK colourspace not thumbnailed correctly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36346 +comment (10Krenair) [17:37:02] 03(mod) Black/striped thumbnails of CMYK JPEGs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24854 +comment (10Krenair) [17:37:11] rohitAgr: Sure, what are the problems? [17:37:17] 03(mod) Review and deploy TimedMediaHandler extension (timed media handler) to Wikimedia wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27699 +comment (10Michael Dale) [17:37:22] !pastebin | rohitAgr [17:37:22] rohitAgr: Please do not paste more than 2-3 lines of text into the channel as it disrupts the flow of conversation. When sharing multiple lines of code, please use a pastebin such as or and post a link to your paste in the channel. [17:38:08] marktraceur: http://dpaste.com/803640/ [17:38:36] rohitAgr: "The environment has been checked. You can install MediaWiki." is all you need :) [17:38:47] oh ..great! [17:39:00] i got scared with the warnings [17:39:20] rohitAgr: It's only a dev instance, if it's running it can be useful [17:39:46] New review: Robmoen; "This is something I could plus 2 if I had permission." [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24097 [17:40:08] 03(mod) Please make Cortado path configurable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40070 (10Aaron Schulz) [17:40:14] 03(mod) Review and deploy TimedMediaHandler extension (timed media handler) to Wikimedia wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27699 (10Aaron Schulz) [17:41:12] hashar: plop? [17:41:40] oh yeah the CLDR [17:41:48] forgot to send your team an email [17:42:06] Nikerabbit: some people complained this morning about language/ro.js not being available [17:42:12] that caused upload wizard to break [17:42:40] New patchset: Siebrand; "Remove an unused local variable and add a fixme for a possible second one" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24455 [17:42:41] so I revert some changes santosh has made. The core revert is https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/24424/ [17:43:42] hashar: so what's the problem? [17:44:15] well I reverted https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/c575d2ff7bfee4049998a4d43676fd8f2250582c,n,z which phased out the custom plural rules [17:44:25] the bug report is https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40380 [17:45:14] marktraceur: when i started installing i got these errors : http://dpaste.com/803643/ [17:46:11] rohitAgr: OK, you'll need to create a database user with permissions on the "wiki_rohit" database [17:46:19] hashar: any idea how to fix it? [17:46:32] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24455 [17:47:48] rohitAgr: Also, it looks like it tried to use an empty username for the database, so maybe you forgot to fill in a field? [17:48:45] Nikerabbit: you probably a back compatibility interface [17:49:05] Nikerabbit: and definitely need to migrate upload wizard (and other extensions) to the new system [17:49:22] Nikerabbit: I noticed UW loads the mediawiki.language module, might be the cause [17:50:17] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24450 [17:50:28] I am out [17:50:30] hi hashar [17:50:35] be back later this evening hopefully [17:50:39] ok [17:52:07] New patchset: Santhosh; "Remove all custom plural rules and use CLDR plural rule system" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24457 [17:52:42] Change merged: Van de Bugger; [mediawiki/extensions/HidePrefix] (devel) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24385 [17:55:01] hellos. is there a static url for the latest stable release? for easier upgrade scripting. [17:56:25] New patchset: Kaldari; "(bug 40400) Make sure leaving a note has an edit summary" [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24458 [17:57:44] hi milk [17:58:18] Amgine: do you know whether there's a static URL for "latest stable MediaWiki release"? [17:58:36] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24451 [17:58:42] New patchset: Kaldari; "Fixing typo from change 24384" [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24454 [17:58:55] Sexwut? [17:59:15] Latest stable, let me look. I think there was. [17:59:43] I haven't seen one but you can get a link to that at http://www.mediawiki.org/w/api.php?action=expandtemplates&text=http://download.wikimedia.org/mediawiki/{{MW%20stable%20branch%20number}}/mediawiki-{{MW%20stable%20release%20number}}.tar.gz [18:00:08] Change merged: Matthias Mullie; [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24454 [18:00:35] 03(mod) No edit summary when leaving a note after tagging a page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40400 +comment (10Ryan Kaldari) [18:00:42] 03(FIXED) No edit summary when leaving a note after tagging a page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40400 (10Ryan Kaldari) [18:01:50] Sumanah: I only see manually updated links. Reedy: anything better you know of? [18:02:29] milk: these folks can help you better than I can [18:02:39] New review: Robmoen; "Code looks proper. I was confused about the differences between wrapAllNodes and wrapNodes. I und..." [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/21400 [18:03:27] heh, there's also http://dumps.wikimedia.org/mediawiki/1.19/ [18:05:07] 03(NEW) Parsoid: round-trip ISBN, PMID and RFC links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40403 normal; Parsoid: General; (gwicke) [18:06:08] 03(ASSIGNED) Parsoid: round-trip ISBN, PMID and RFC links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40403 (10Gabriel Wicke) [18:06:08] 03(mod) Parsoid: General round-tripping tracking bug - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39567 (10Gabriel Wicke) [18:07:18] New patchset: Matthias Mullie; "(bug 40400) Make sure leaving a note has an edit summary" [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24458 [18:07:37] Milk: sorry. There isn't one I am aware of. Liangent's link should always produce xml with the url, though. [18:08:17] 03(NEW) Parsoid: round-trip templates / extensions etc in category link sort keys - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40404 normal; Parsoid: General; (gwicke) [18:10:04] New patchset: Kaldari; "(bug 40400) Make sure leaving a note has an edit summary" [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24458 [18:11:54] ^demon|lunch, I'm back [18:11:55] sumanah, Amgine; fair dos, and liangent; thanking you [18:12:23] yw [18:12:26] 03(ASSIGNED) Parsoid: round-trip templates / extensions etc in category link sort keys - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40404 +comment (10Gabriel Wicke) [18:12:26] 03(mod) Parsoid: General round-tripping tracking bug - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39567 (10Gabriel Wicke) [18:12:50] who or where whould be best to poke for such a feature suggestion? [18:13:02] Change merged: Kaldari; [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24458 [18:16:40] New patchset: Kaldari; "Update ArticleFeedbackv5 and PageTriage to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf11) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24459 [18:16:51] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "Make entity namespace use consistent." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24460 [18:16:54] Change merged: Kaldari; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf11) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24459 [18:17:54] <^demon> MaxSem: Me too :) Ok, so I've got a fresh clone & install of core on sqlite. Wiki works fine, so do maintenance scripts. Trying to run phpunit though, I get "DB connection error: Cannot return last error, no db connection" [18:17:56] <^demon> Thoughts? [18:18:38] relative data dir? [18:19:03] <^demon> Nope, full path [18:19:53] 03(mod) {{exists}} fails in Parsoid - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39286 (10Gabriel Wicke) [18:20:03] ehm [18:20:32] ^demon, running tests right now - it works [18:20:37] <^demon> Ah, got me thinking. It was permissions on the data dir. [18:20:42] <^demon> Working now [18:22:09] 03(NEW) Api module wbsetitem should only report changed props - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40405 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; (jeblad) [18:23:58] ^demon: is it possible to make gerrit yell when I'm submitting a patchset which conflicts with other patchsets pending review? [18:24:30] New patchset: Van de Bugger; "Minor fixes." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticTitle] (devel) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24461 [18:24:34] i'm getting slightly by confused when looking gerrit; might there a latest stable tag? git archive could get just the right files. [18:24:54] looking at [18:25:01] <^demon> liangent: No, not really. You could possibly hack something up with the new CommitValidator hook, but it'd be an expensive operation to walk all open changes & attempt a merge to see if they conflict. [18:25:05] 03(mod) bits.wikimedia.org don't load over 6to4 connection via Hurricane Electric - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39322 +comment (10Marcin Cieślak) [18:25:47] <^demon> Although, there's a feature I plan to enable after 2.5 that will tell you if a patch can't merge due to conflicts, to save you time on clicking submit needlessly. [18:25:58] <^demon> (There's a memory leak in 2.4 with the feature which is why it's not on now) [18:26:48] ^demon: is it more expensive than a jenkins run? [18:27:01] are we still flying Gerrit Airlines? [18:27:08] <^demon> saper: Yup. [18:28:00] <^demon> liangent: Jenkins is more expensive, but Jenkins is on a different host though. And it does more than just test mergability. [18:29:05] ^demon: it seems jenkins only check mergability with master, not other patchsets [18:29:31] <^demon> Well yeah, that's how it works. [18:29:39] <^demon> Nothing tests "will this merge with N other open patches" [18:31:41] rohitAgr: Welcome to Gerrit and Labs! :) [18:31:48] hi rohitAgr [18:32:01] welcome! [18:32:17] rohitAgr: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_become_a_MediaWiki_hacker and https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:MediaWiki_architecture may help you [18:32:47] New patchset: Kaldari; "Update ArticleFeedbackv5 and PageTriage to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf10) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24463 [18:32:49] ^demon: I think it can be more or less useful to try to merge with others [18:33:44] <^demon> I don't doubt it would be useful, I'm just saying A) There's nothing doing it now, and B) I can't think of an *easy* way to do it. [18:34:17] Change merged: Kaldari; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf10) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24463 [18:36:36] 03(NEW) Change notifications should use prefixed ID - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40406 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; (daniel.kinzler) [18:36:58] ^demon: add a jenkins task to try to cherry-pick every other open changeset on it? [18:37:47] <^demon> Jenkins jobs are stored in gerrit, anyone could write one. I'm not personally going to do so. [18:38:17] <^demon> I think you'll end up getting more annoyances from it than anything. Conflicts on RELEASE-NOTES are common but are incredibly easy to sort out. [18:39:01] New patchset: btongminh; "(bug 35693) ApiQueryImageInfo now suppresses errors when unserializing metadata" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24465 [18:39:08] hmm maybe also insertion of new messages [18:39:20] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "[Bug 40390][Bug 40397] entity namespace fix." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24460 [18:39:29] ^demon: any idea how this can happen? https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/24243/ <- is on a different project than it should be [18:39:47] 03(mod) ApiQueryImageInfo.php should wfSuppressErrors() before trying to unserialize - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35693 +comment (10Bryan Tong Minh) [18:40:00] 03(mod) Check existing code to see where it works only for items but should work for entities (13) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40390 +comment (10Daniel Kinzler) [18:40:02] ^demon: nevermind [18:40:03] it makes sense now [18:40:05] 03(mod) Namespace translations can break core namspeaces - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40397 +comment (10Daniel Kinzler) [18:40:17] <^demon> brion: Yeah looks weird, but technically correct :) [18:41:11] 03(mod) Check existing code to see where it works only for items but should work for entities (13) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40390 (10Daniel Kinzler) [18:41:12] 03(mod) Namespace translations can break core namspeaces - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40397 (10Daniel Kinzler) [18:41:15] someone else will have to +2 it, i don't have +2 in there [18:42:17] brion: can't +2 if you don't have shell access :-D [18:42:23] fine by me! ;) [18:42:23] brion: I presume that if you list yourself at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Gerrit_project_ownership then you can get privs :) [18:42:39] brion: I guess someone from the mobile team will merge it [18:43:28] saper: btw would you be interested in leading another Git/Gerrit training, online? [18:43:39] New patchset: Kaldari; "Update ArticleFeedbackv5 and PageTriage to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf12) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24466 [18:43:49] Change merged: Kaldari; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf12) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24466 [18:43:56] <^demon> sumanah: brion doesn't want privileges there :p [18:44:03] <^demon> He's been avoiding it at all costs. [18:44:05] i've got a full enough plate :) [18:44:06] Oh ok [18:44:10] never mind [18:44:12] :) [18:44:17] eventually tomasz will probably make me do it though :) [18:44:46] <^demon> +2'd, merged. [18:45:12] brion: got it! well if you think of anyone else who ought to be getting ownership in stuff please suggest 'em [18:45:23] :) [18:45:25] thx ^demon [18:45:47] 14(WFM) Double escaped HTML entities with action=parse&prop=languageshtml - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38519 +comment (10Bryan Tong Minh) [18:46:52] New patchset: Umherirrender; "Add separate fa_sha1 field to filearchive table" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17512 [18:48:13] 03(mod) Exported EPUB files switch off font resizing in webkit eBook readers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40330 +comment (10Ralf Schmitt) [18:49:38] New patchset: Brion VIBBER; "Initial stab at responsive images for screen densities." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24115 [18:50:04] 03(mod) Exported EPUB files switch off font resizing in webkit eBook readers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40330 +comment (10Ralf Schmitt) [18:52:36] New review: Brion VIBBER; "Patchset 3:" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24115 [18:56:49] 03(NEW) Change the containing structure in wbgetitems from "items" to "entities" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40407 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; (jeblad) [18:58:11] 03(FIXED) Parsoid: round-trip ISBN, PMID and RFC links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40403 (10Gabriel Wicke) [18:58:38] 03(mod) Parsoid: round-trip ISBN, PMID and RFC links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40403 +comment (10Gabriel Wicke) [19:00:02] New patchset: Van de Bugger; "Initial revision" [mediawiki/extensions/Carp] (devel) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24468 [19:00:11] Aw man, services are going down again. This is pretty ridiculous. [19:00:14] 03(NEW) Change the containing structure in ApiModifyEntity from "item" to "entitie" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40408 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; (jeblad) [19:00:22] 03(mod) Change the containing structure in wbgetitems from "items" to "entities" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40407 (10jeblad) [19:00:36] :( [19:00:51] New review: Van de Bugger; "Original commit was accidentally made to master branch. This is merge from master to devel." [mediawiki/extensions/Carp] (devel); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24468 [19:00:52] Change merged: Van de Bugger; [mediawiki/extensions/Carp] (devel) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24468 [19:00:59] Hm [19:01:09] <^demon> ruh roh. [19:01:11] <^demon> http://p.defau.lt/?ngyvDnVKaTdT9eI2oXSx7g [19:03:40] drdee: hey, re https://blog.wikimedia.org/2012/09/19/what-are-readers-looking-for-wikipedia-search-data-now-available/ , do you think the data will be back up in days, weeks, months, or other? just trying to remember when to check back [19:04:05] ^demon: Trouble on the horizon? [19:04:55] marktraceur: say it in Spanish! [19:04:56] :) [19:05:08] sumanah: Never learned [19:05:46] And I can't remember "trouble" in French (been a long time) [19:06:00] * marktraceur goes back to native languages like JavaScript [19:09:22] sumanah: yes, of course [19:09:41] marktraceur: I just booted my digital TV box into FORTH :) [19:10:31] saper: ok, so, my plan is that I'd like for us to set up a Doodle time poll, and email mediawiki-l and wikitech-l and ask for people to speak up if they want training [19:10:48] good [19:10:50] saper: A programming language? [19:11:09] * marktraceur wants to hear more [19:11:13] marktraceur: programming language, operating system, bootloader, everything [19:11:19] Oh, didn't know that [19:11:29] [[:w:FORTH]] [19:11:42] was popular in the embedded stuff in the 1980s [19:11:50] I'm there [19:12:06] "Classic Forth systems traditionally use neither operating system nor file system." [19:12:06] actually Tamarin JavaScript VM is internally based on a Forth-like virtual machine [19:12:18] New patchset: Van de Bugger; "Bunch of minor changes" [mediawiki/extensions/Carp] (devel) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24471 [19:12:23] yes [19:12:37] on the other hand, it is amazing high-level language [19:12:38] actually saper since you know what dates & times you would be available for the training, I think maybe you should set up the poll with times you are willing to lead? [19:14:32] <[_White_]> I need help with Extension: Interwiki apparently an error [19:16:29] New patchset: Van de Bugger; "Bunch of minor changes" [mediawiki/extensions/Carp] (devel) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24471 [19:16:31] sumanah: let's make it 26.09/27.09/2.10/3.10 17:30 UTC + 3 hours [19:16:42] [_White_]: Whats the error? [19:16:46] with a break [19:17:42] * marktraceur grumbles about non-ISO 8601 dates [19:17:59] <[_White_]> When installed it appears: Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 33554432 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 591736 bytes) in /wiki/includes/AutoLoader.php on line 1007 [19:18:02] sumanah: this is my old "what's your skill level" poll http://www.doodle.com/qnrgibpqxyamqhzb [19:18:51] <[_White_]> Lcawte: Up ^ [19:19:13] marktraceur: RFC822 is the SPEC [19:19:24] !rfc 822 [19:19:25] [RFC 822] Plain text: http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc`e1.txt HTML: http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc`e1 [19:19:33] Augh [19:19:39] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "Add parameters to ArticleDeleteComplete." [mediawiki/core] (Wikidata) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24474 [19:21:22] hi, is bug 40267 intentional/wontfix? [19:21:53] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "Fix change notifications for deletions." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24475 [19:23:23] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "self-approving hook improvement for dev branch" [mediawiki/core] (Wikidata); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24474 [19:23:24] Change merged: Daniel Kinzler; [mediawiki/core] (Wikidata) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24474 [19:24:43] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "Fix change notifications for deletions." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24475 [19:27:41] saper: I think 8601 supercedes it, since it was later [19:27:54] Plus it makes more sense to have the bigger units first [19:27:56] hi giftpflanze [19:28:02] !b 40267 [19:28:03] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40267 [19:28:18] hi sumanah [19:28:38] giftpflanze: it looks as though no one has looked at that bug yet to make any decisions [19:29:14] SPQRobin: ^ do you have any insight into Bug 40267? [19:30:25] New patchset: Mdale; "bug 40070 -- makes cortado path configurable with $wgCortadoJarFile" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24476 [19:31:39] New patchset: Mdale; "bug 40070 -- makes cortado path configurable with $wgCortadoJarFile" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24476 [19:31:44] 03(NEW) labs-nfs1 full again - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40409 normal; Wikimedia Labs: General; (ori) [19:33:35] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "[FileBackend] Fallback to $wgMemc for swift auth caching in cli mode." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24477 [19:34:36] sumanah, giftpflanze, according to Parser::replaceUnusualEscapes except for certain characters, links are unescaped [19:34:48] # Is it an unsafe or HTTP reserved character according to RFC 1738? [19:34:49] marktraceur: no, I think email is not using 8601 till this day [19:34:49] if ( $ord > 32 && $ord < 127 && strpos( '<>"#{}|\^~[]`;/?', $char ) === false ) { [19:35:19] saper: True, but email's not IRC....and certainly not a bastion of Good Internet Practices. [19:35:50] marktraceur: that works unlike many other services :) [19:36:17] marktraceur: I remember I played once with MTA X.400 software, it even put two-digit year into the "Date" header [19:36:27] Ha [19:36:40] the link that is on the html page in the end is still unchanged [19:37:06] New review: Aaron Schulz; "Passes swift tests." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24477 [19:37:07] Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24477 [19:37:37] 03(NEW) IE9: minimized Curation toolbar shows black square, not text "Curation" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40410 normal; MediaWiki extensions: PageTriage; (cmcmahon) [19:37:52] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "[FileBackend] Fallback to $wgMemc for swift auth caching in cli mode." [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf12) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24478 [19:38:00] afais in the sourcecode it is there for checking, but why put a changed link into the database? [19:38:08] Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf12) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24478 [19:38:08] <[El_Soberano]> Please, a help. :) [19:38:32] !ask | [El_Soberano] [19:38:32] [El_Soberano]: Hi, how can we help you? Just ask your question. [19:39:17] 19:17 < [_White_]> When installed it appears: Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 33554432 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 591736 bytes) in /wiki/includes/AutoLoader.php on line 1007 [19:39:26] that was it? [19:39:29] <[El_Soberano]> saper: When installed Extension:Interwiki appears this: Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 33554432 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 591736 bytes) in /wiki/includes/AutoLoader.php on line 1007 [19:39:48] <[El_Soberano]> Yes. [19:40:19] [El_Soberano]: do you try changing memory_limit = 128M [19:40:24] in your php.ini? [19:42:45] 03(NEW) Add user right to see logs which are deleted by deletelogentry - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40411 normal; MediaWiki: Revision deletion; (duplicatebug) [19:42:45] 03(mod) RevDelete/HideUser (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/18840 (10duplicatebug) [19:43:02] 03(NEW) Add user right which allow only suppress of log entry - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40412 normal; MediaWiki: Revision deletion; (duplicatebug) [19:43:02] 03(mod) RevDelete/HideUser (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/18840 (10duplicatebug) [19:43:45] <[El_Soberano]> saper: Ehmm, no. [19:43:57] Nikerabbit: marktraceur https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Code_review/Getting_reviews I know that S Page wanted this updated when we said new things on the list [19:44:00] [El_Soberano]: 32MB or so might be on the edge [19:44:26] sumanah: I was echoing that page for the benefit of the list, not adding things :) [19:44:33] nod [19:44:35] :) [19:46:33] <[El_Soberano]> Please, give a moment. saper [19:46:34] <[El_Soberano]> :) [19:49:54] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "[FileBackend] Fallback to $wgMemc for swift auth caching in cli mode." [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf11) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24483 [19:49:54] Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf11) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24483 [19:51:53] 03(mod) API retrieval of links from a page does not work with DPL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40283 (10duplicatebug) [19:53:50] sumanah: re bug 40267, I'm not so familiar with the database setup and encoding [19:58:01] New patchset: Mdale; "ensure the playhead is updated in the main monitor function" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24484 [19:58:06] SPQRobin: are you familiar how i18n of namespace names work with extensions ($namespaceName and stuff)? I have this https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/24387/ and I feel like I should file a bug against core, but I don't know what's the correct configuration [20:02:39] 03(mod) Please make Cortado path configurable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40070 +comment (10Michael Dale) [20:02:41] Change merged: J; [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24484 [20:03:38] New patchset: Raimond Spekking; "Revert "Register Carp extension"" [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24485 [20:03:56] <[El_Soberano]> saper: The file no exists on my server. :( [20:06:50] 03(mod) $wgSelectCategoryRoot ignored on Special:Upload - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24911 +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [20:07:52] Change merged: Raimond Spekking; [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24485 [20:08:07] [El_Soberano]: must be somewhere - or maybe you have a default/example file somewhere [20:08:21] !phpinfo | [El_Soberano] [20:08:21] [El_Soberano]: create a file called info.php in your wiki's installation directory. It should have the following content: ; Visit it with your browser to see information about your php installation. If it doesn't work, check file permissions. Remove the file when done, it makes life easier for attackers. [20:10:07] 03(mod) IE9: minimized Curation toolbar shows black square, not text "Curation" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40410 (10Fabrice Florin) [20:11:18] <[El_Soberano]> saper: Then I think the file, put what I'll edit and delete it? [20:11:33] 03(mod) bits.wikimedia.org don't load over 6to4 connection via Hurricane Electric - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39322 +comment (10Thomas Capricelli) [20:11:39] Yaron: hey, thought you might want to review https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/23934/ since it's ConfirmEdit, which you've also been working on [20:11:52] saper: not immediately.. shouldn't be too complicated, but I haven't got time to look into it now. I'd say feel free to add me as reviewer but I see it has already +1 & +2's [20:11:54] New patchset: Mwalker; "Initial commit of the Unsubscribe extension!" [wikimedia/fundraising/DonationEmailUnsubscribe] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22679 [20:12:47] sumanah - unfortunately, I don't know that much about the "guts" of the ConfirmEdit extension. [20:12:59] ...and I don't have approval rights on it, anyway. [20:13:48] Yaron: To your second point: nonbinding comments are also useful. But to your first, got it. [20:13:56] Yeah, okay. [20:17:39] <[El_Soberano]> saper: Ready. :) [20:24:05] New patchset: Spage; "Handle CAPTCHA with jQuery-fu, a few other tweaks." [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24486 [20:25:57] Sumanah: who is Spage? [20:25:59] hashar: ping [20:26:05] Amgine: S Page is an engineer at WMF [20:26:13] not there sorry unless that is production related [20:26:14] often in IRC as spagewmf, I think [20:26:19] ok, thanks hashar [20:26:30] can we talk tomorrow morning your time ? [20:26:42] sure! [20:27:18] <[El_Soberano]> :( [20:27:19] Mmm. Just as a side-beg: a non-js-reliant but truly viable captcha is of high interest. [20:27:35] Amgine: a real CAPTCHA would be amazing [20:27:36] sumanah: sorry too much to do this evening and already multi tasking [20:27:42] no prob, I understand hashar [20:28:03] Amgine: i18n-ready, friendly to people with visual or hearing disabilities, non-JS-reliant [20:28:45] Oh. The real problem is the image sorting. We need a monstrous pool. [20:29:01] (or sound file sorting) [20:29:44] [20:32:15] Hmm, new Travel guide thing sounds interesting... ooh, and they have an SVN with their custom extensions in? [20:34:24] Hi, in the mobile main page, I noticed that some (all?) decorational styles such as border-bottom: are removed by the mobile front end. [20:34:51] can anyone lead me to the relevant document? [20:35:15] 03(mod) urls are changed in externallinks table - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40267 +parser; +comment (10Marcin Cieślak) [20:35:23] simple api query with action=mobileview doesnt seems to do the job [20:35:40] hi whym [20:36:05] 03(mod) [Regression] deleteArchivedFiles.php broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40362 (10Aaron Schulz) [20:36:18] whym: the MobileFrontend extension is discussed in #wikimedia-mobile [20:36:59] 03(mod) UploadWizard not generating thumbnails - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39975 +comment (10Aaron Schulz) [20:37:02] whym: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mobile_Projects/Mobile_Gateway has more information [20:39:35] sumanah: I wasn't aware of that, thanks! [20:39:41] Glad to help, whym [20:40:36] 03(mod) urls are changed in externallinks table - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40267 +comment (10Marcin Cieślak) [20:41:40] 03(mod) jquery.tablesorter's data-sort-type feature not working for wikitext tables on WMF - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31527 (10Krinkle) [20:41:45] for the record, #wikimedia-mobile says "Topic for #wikimedia-mobile: Nightly builds of Android app available" ... taken literally it doesn't appear to cover the front end [20:42:46] whym: ah, good to know - feel free to bring it up in there and potentially change it [20:42:59] Or merge the channel back into #wikimedia-dev (software developers on the team), #wikimedia-operations (mobile-dedicated servers at wmf) and #mediawiki (support to users) [20:43:28] but that's just silly me, who will never give up to attempt to reduce the number of channels :P [20:43:49] the resistance! (/me just watched the Matrix again, great film) [20:44:04] New patchset: Kaldari; "Fixing wording for 'no references' tag in Page Curation" [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24488 [20:44:23] 03(mod) jquery.tablesorter's data-sort-type feature not working for wikitext tables on WMF - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31527 (10Krinkle) [20:45:04] 03(mod) urls are changed in externallinks table - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40267 (10m.p.roppelt) [20:45:50] :( [20:46:31] <^demon> Krinkle: We can attempt, but people like having N+1 channels :) [20:46:44] Change merged: Kaldari; [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24488 [20:46:50] 03(mod) urls are changed in externallinks table - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40267 +comment (10Marcin Cieślak) [20:46:53] New patchset: Spage; "Handle CAPTCHA with jQuery-fu, a few other tweaks." [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24486 [20:47:02] yeah,.. [20:47:04] Change merged: Ori.livneh; [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24486 [20:47:30] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "[FileRepo] Throw an exception if a storage key is invalid." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24489 [20:48:02] Krinkle: if you ever succeed in helping people fight the urge to fragment communications channels, tell me [20:48:19] Krinkle: jorm gives talks where he contrasts plazas and warrens [20:48:52] Krinkle: it is in the nature of people to construct both..... [20:49:05] sumanah: one of the goals on that agenda is getting wmf's agenda off of mediawiki.org, and I say that without meaning that wmf can't maintain mediawiki as a package, I actually believe in that we don't need a MW foundation. [20:49:15] 03(mod) [Regression] deleteArchivedFiles.php broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40362 +comment (10Aaron Schulz) [20:49:27] New patchset: Kaldari; "Update PageTriage to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf12) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24490 [20:49:31] but it does help if we think of ourself as a contributor to mediawiki instead of smearing our stuff all over mediawiki.org [20:49:37] Krinkle: did you already comment on the RFC? [20:49:45] didn't I start that rfc ? [20:49:46] which one [20:49:55] oh, did you start the MW Foundation RFC? [20:49:59] no, not at all [20:50:15] Change merged: Kaldari; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf12) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24490 [20:50:40] Krinkle: and the one stall in the great wikitech/mediawiki.org cleanup/movement thing is that knowledgable folks need to assess & rate the existing articles on wikitech.wikimedia.org .... once that's done then basile is interested in doing the move so we have WMF tech stuff on wikitech rather than mediawiki.org, I think [20:50:43] New patchset: IAlex; "Improve documentation of maintenance scripts." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24491 [20:50:44] I meant https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Documentation_overhaul https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Krinkle/Communication https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Krinkle/Content_structure [20:51:18] sumanah: basile? [20:51:28] sumanah: are you saying the move is halted by curation of the wiktech wiki as-is? [20:51:44] seems redundant to me, we'll clean up later. Its pretty clean already. [20:52:26] taking wikitech as the foundation probably, as it seems best organized for wmf-purposes (compared to labsconsole and mediawiki.org that is, which are both either messy or oriented on other goals, which is good) [20:52:26] Krinkle: I defer on that decision to basile (Guillaume) [20:53:44] oh, basile is Guillaume [20:53:44] ic [20:53:56] 03(mod) urls are changed in externallinks table - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40267 +comment (10Marcin Cieślak) [20:54:23] <^demon> The plan is to combine wikitech & labsconsole, and move all deployment/tech stuff there. [20:54:34] <^demon> wikitech would be a read-only mirror in case the cluster's down and we need docs. [20:56:35] 03(mod) urls are changed in externallinks table - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40267 (10m.p.roppelt) [20:58:43] Can any help me? :( [21:00:00] 03(mod) Please make Cortado path configurable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40070 +comment (10Faidon Liambotis) [21:00:14] White_Master: Did you ask a question? [21:00:27] Yes. [21:01:39] sumanah: are you asking me to do something? [21:01:46] Oh, right, your [_White_] [21:01:59] :) [21:02:51] Nikerabbit: it is completely optional and only a request, but it would be cool if https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Code_review/Getting_reviews also had the top tips you mentioned in your email [21:03:25] Hm.. can anyone help me out? I'm looking for a particular word, it's meaning is related to "there being a difference" or "there being an inconstancy". Sounds a bit like "decrepancy" ? [21:03:35] But decrepancy isn't a word I think, maybe different spelling? [21:03:41] It sounds like you need to bump your memory limit, but I'm not an expert on performance/memory stuff... there are other folks that have more knowledge with that though [21:03:53] Krinkle: full sentence? [21:03:56] sumanah: I'm worried that that list might get too long [21:04:02] inconsistency* not inconstancy* [21:04:07] ori-l: no sentence [21:04:09] discrepancy? [21:04:12] discrepancy [21:04:12] Nikerabbit: true [21:04:17] what sumanah said [21:04:18] Ah, right! [21:04:19] incongruity [21:04:35] discontinuity [21:04:35] a "lolwut", in common parlance [21:04:36] Google's auto correct didn't get that from decrepancy [21:04:40] I was a second off that :/ [21:04:49] usually it guesses misspelled words very well [21:04:50] Thanks! [21:04:58] * sumanah stops being a thesaurus [21:04:59] You are welcome! [21:05:07] sumanah: I think it should be "polished" more first instead of just shoveling all to that page [21:05:12] <[_White_]> Lcawte: I dont know. :( [21:05:15] ok, meeting [21:05:27] 03(mod) [Regression] deleteArchivedFiles.php broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40362 +comment (10Krinkle) [21:07:37] 03(mod) urls are changed in externallinks table - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40267 +comment (10Krinkle) [21:12:15] 03(NEW) "Show all messages" and so on return empty lists - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40413 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Translate; (federicoleva) [21:12:45] New patchset: Nikerabbit; "Unbreak Ie9dd8458 - no messages were loaded for any mw ext" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24492 [21:13:15] 03(mod) "Show all messages" and so on return empty lists - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40413 (10Nemo_bis) [21:14:02] 03(mod) [Regression] deleteArchivedFiles.php broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40362 +comment (10Aaron Schulz) [21:17:35] <[_White_]> Lcawte: So I can not install the extension? [21:18:17] [_White_]: Go look up how to increase your memory limit? [21:18:18] New patchset: Kaldari; "Update PageTriage ext to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf11) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24494 [21:18:27] Change merged: Kaldari; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf11) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24494 [21:19:40] 03(mod) No possibility to patrol from Special:Contributions/user - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/14352 (10Krinkle) [21:19:49] Has anyone ever taken source code from mediawiki and profited from it in any way? [21:20:37] <[_White_]> Lcawte: This http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgMemoryLimit [21:21:20] 03(mod) Add patrol options in history page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/23792 (10Krinkle) [21:21:34] 03(mod) Use separate log_action for patrol action of autopatrolled edits - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/25799 (10Krinkle) [21:22:01] Silly question, I know- but I'd really like to know [21:22:14] if anyone has ever done anything like that. [21:22:42] 03(mod) Add missing preferences for hide/show like for minor edits and patrolled edits. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27050 +comment (10Krinkle) [21:22:42] <[_White_]> Lcawte: But I can not find the file [21:22:44] LukeDev: Wikia seems to be doing OK [21:23:25] [_White_]: You probably need to create it, I'm assuming your using some kind of hosting service? [21:23:42] wikia makes money…. [21:23:53] I think so [21:23:56] Maybe not [21:24:03] I haven't looked into it too heavily [21:24:19] Wikia is for profit, and makes money through ads... they do pretty well off it as well :P [21:24:26] 03(mod) 'patrolmarks' should be included in the rights registry - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37966 +comment (10Krinkle) [21:24:46] 03(mod) HTML validation: Attribute width/height not allowed on element button at this point - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40384 +comment (10Brion Vibber) [21:25:08] 03(mod) HTML validation: Attribute width/height not allowed on element button at this point - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40384 +comment (10Brion Vibber) [21:25:20] Krinkle: could I ask you to add a note about https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37966 plus a hint about how to do it - to [[Annoying Little Bugs]]? [21:25:23] 03(UNCONFIRMED) HTML validation: Bad value edit for attribute rel on element link: Keyword edit is not registered. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40385 +comment (10Brion Vibber) [21:26:03] <[_White_]> Lcawte: Yes. [21:28:08] sumanah: its not worth noting on that wiki page. Its literally just adding a line in the default settings and adding an array item somewhere. [21:28:29] apparently not annoying enough [21:28:57] why isn't that worth noting? that's EXACTLY the kind of item a newbie needs to get over the hump to get started, unless I am mistaken [21:29:03] nearly a no-op [21:29:10] just to get them started using the tools [21:30:14] Change merged: Andrew Bogott; [mediawiki/extensions/OpenStackManager] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24311 [21:30:22] 03(NEW) php5-parsekit package missing in Precise - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40414 normal; Wikimedia Labs: deployment-prep (beta); (hashar) [21:30:38] 03(mod) the iframe with the Creative Commons license shows partial translations - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40372 +comment (10Brion Vibber) [21:30:59] 03(NEW) Add missing dependencies for modules "mediawiki.user" and "mediawiki.action.view.dblClickEdit" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40415 normal; MediaWiki: ResourceLoader; (mybugs.mail) [21:31:08] 03(mod) Add missing dependencies for modules "mediawiki.user" and "mediawiki.action.view.dblClickEdit" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40415 (10mybugs.mail) [21:32:15] <[_White_]> Lcawte: Yes, I using a hosting service. :P [21:32:22] New review: Platonides; "The point of $wgCaptchaDeleteOnSolve was precisely to avoid using the same captcha twice. Using two ..." [mediawiki/extensions/ConfirmEdit] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23934 [21:33:23] [_White_]: What one? [21:34:02] <[_White_]> Lcawte: I not find the file 'php.ini' [21:39:06] 03(mod) the iframe with the Creative Commons license shows partial translations - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40372 +comment (10Brion Vibber) [21:39:10] brion, thanks for the help with Creative Commons translations. [21:39:44] sure thing [21:40:00] if mike isn't the guy to go to, he should be able to point us in the right direction at least [21:40:16] everybody i know at CC has partially moved on, I don't know who does what anymore :) [21:41:16] brion: Kat works there now, you know [21:41:25] oh yeah, she's doing law stuff there now right? [21:41:27] awesome [21:41:40] I'm guessing that's what she's doing given her background [21:41:43] a [21:41:44] 03(mod) Add missing dependencies for modules "mediawiki.user" and "mediawiki.action.view.dblClickEdit" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40415 +comment (10Krinkle) [21:41:58] Also, they moved their office from SF to MV [21:41:58] nobody goes to law school just to get a job not lawyering :) [21:42:12] ah, mountain view [21:42:15] so suburby [21:42:17] Yeah [21:42:43] 03(mod) Add missing dependencies for modules "mediawiki.user" and "mediawiki.action.view.dblClickEdit" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40415 +comment (10Krinkle) [21:42:45] While everyone else is moving *from* the Peninsula/South Bay *into* the city :) [21:42:51] aharoni: excellent, he's CC'd us to the webmaster (sensible enough) and promises to bug them if they don't follow up [21:43:05] 03(mod) Add missing dependencies for modules "mediawiki.user" and "mediawiki.action.view.dblClickEdit" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40415 (10Krinkle) [21:46:25] 03(mod) Proper ajax patrolling functionatlity in core - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/7851 (10Krinkle) [21:47:38] AaronSchulz: cna someone look at the transaction bugs I filed? our error log is flooded [21:51:31] 03(mod) Edits that create pages should be autopatrolled if a later edit to the same page is patrolled - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40336 +comment (10Krinkle) [21:51:34] Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24476 [21:52:02] Change merged: Amire80; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24492 [21:56:11] New patchset: Jforrester; "Initial commit of the PageCredits extension." [mediawiki/extensions/PageCredits] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24442 [21:56:33] marktraceur: I'm writing a GSoC wrapup post [21:56:58] sumanah: Cool! [21:57:26] * marktraceur is always excited to stop doing other things and read links sumanah throws into IRC [21:57:48] I am a productivity sink! [21:57:51] noooo [21:59:14] * saper likes it ... either :) [22:00:28] can you return only text through the API. No tags. [22:00:28] Nikerabbit: I'm sure somebody out there could, yes [22:01:37] New review: Pgehres; "A few little questions." [wikimedia/fundraising/DonationEmailUnsubscribe] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22679 [22:02:55] illusion__: you already checked out the API sandbox, right? [22:03:00] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:ApiSandbox [22:04:45] 03(mod) Enable $wgAllowCopyUploads (upload by URL) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/20512 +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [22:04:55] Yes. I see that you can specify 'images' or 'links' but I have played with 'text' and doesnt seem to work [22:05:14] [_White_]: did you run phpconfig()? [22:05:32] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "Made the backend used controllable via cli params." [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaMaintenance] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24499 [22:05:40] <[_White_]> saper: No, I dont have access ssh.. [22:05:46] <[_White_]> ssh access* [22:06:10] !phpconfig | [_White_] [22:06:24] <[_White_]> saper: Oh, yes, yes. [22:06:26] Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaMaintenance] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24499 [22:06:27] <[_White_]> I running. [22:06:30] <[_White_]> :) [22:06:31] !phpinfo | [_White_] [22:06:31] [_White_]: create a file called info.php in your wiki's installation directory. It should have the following content: ; Visit it with your browser to see information about your php installation. If it doesn't work, check file permissions. Remove the file when done, it makes life easier for attackers. [22:06:46] actually i think i just got it to work. thx [22:06:49] illusion__: great! [22:06:51] <[_White_]> Yes, I running info.pho, saper. [22:07:12] <[_White_]> info.php* [22:15:27] New patchset: Catrope; "Fix call to nonexistent method and escape the language code" [mediawiki/extensions/DonationInterface] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24500 [22:16:25] Where am I? [22:16:58] This is the MediaWiki chat room, Jroehl - please look at the "topic" at the top of your screen [22:17:02] hi DeltaQuad [22:17:11] 03(FIXED) MobileFrontend: initialize JS on DOM-ready, not window.onload - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40196 +comment (10Brion Vibber) [22:17:13] Hey JRoehl [22:17:19] This is Lucian [22:18:05] What is the origin of the name Lucian? [22:18:26] smanah, I'd like your help understanding the git workflow. [22:18:40] Lucian means "from light" [22:18:45] Change merged: Pgehres; [mediawiki/extensions/DonationInterface] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24500 [22:18:57] Nothing personal, but I have never heard of anyone named Lucian. [22:19:09] hi Domo__ - sure, I can help you. One quick thing first [22:19:14] !tabcompletion | Domo__ [22:19:14] Domo__: Instead of manually typing another person's nickname in IRC, you can type the beginning of their name and hit TAB on your keyboard to get it autocompleted, like on the command line. This avoids misspellings. Just make sure it's the right person! [22:19:25] !git [22:19:25] MediaWiki development is using git, a distributed source control manager, starting on March 21st, 2012; details: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git_happens Instructions for using it: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Workflow To get an account: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Labsconsole_accounts [22:19:41] Domo__: you've already looked at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Tutorial a little? [22:19:44] Then again I have never heard anyone named Newt or Rush either. [22:19:46] sumanah: awesome [22:19:53] Domo__: I hope http://openhatch.org/missions/git is also helpful [22:20:32] essentially I'm trying to request a new git repo [22:21:03] Ah I see -- so, https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/New_repositories is how you do that, and Chad fulfills those requests relatively quickly (now that his travel is over) [22:21:50] okay- I'm not sure if I've gone through the right process to get space. [22:22:07] I filled out a request to get space [22:23:02] I've registered on wikilabs, is there anything else I need to do? [22:24:26] well, first off, I should have said, welcome! [22:24:42] Domo__: can you already log into gerrit.wikimedia.org ? [22:25:22] sumanah: [22:25:24] yes [22:25:41] great! [22:25:41] New patchset: Andrew Bogott; "Add Instance Name back into the fields filled in by OSM." [mediawiki/extensions/OpenStackManager] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24501 [22:26:05] ohai sumanah [22:26:18] Change merged: Andrew Bogott; [mediawiki/extensions/OpenStackManager] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24501 [22:26:19] hey I was wondering, when is the next hackathon lol? [22:26:28] DeltaQuad: well, would you like to host one? [22:26:37] Domo__: where did you fill out the request to get space? [22:26:51] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/New_repositories/Requests [22:27:05] Ah, Domo__ , I had looked there for "domo" and not seen anything [22:27:09] hmm...I actually have though about the idea, would require some hell of a plan, but i'm interested [22:27:32] I'm theKaramanukian [22:27:32] DeltaQuad: you can totally do it - Lcawte|Away did, Yuvi did, and so on [22:27:44] oh I see! good to meet you theKaramanukian [22:27:46] sumanah: I'm the theKaramanukian [22:28:12] so, yeah, I've actually seen you around in Gerrit :) [22:28:26] DeltaQuad: http://www.harihareswara.net/sumana/2011/09/01/0 [22:28:57] has some tips .... also https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Volunteer_coordination_and_outreach/Event_planning has some ideas, but you can also just have a 1-day event near you.... and you can apply to WMF for funding help, or apply to your local chapter [22:29:00] * DeltaQuad reads [22:29:22] I wonder how much Wikimedia Canada would be receptive to the idea. [22:29:59] Domo__: so, let me think whether there's anything else you need to do .... creating an extension page on mediawiki.org would be good https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/New_repositories#Step_5:_Publish_an_extension_page [22:30:18] you could wait till you have the repository, or you could just start it now [22:30:32] Domo__: I assume you've read the coding conventions? [22:31:33] 03(mod) Rename zh-yue -> yue - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28441 +comment (10Deryck Chan) [22:33:42] Domo__: What step are you working on? [22:33:43] rmoen: welcome to the world of Gerrit project ownership for VisualEditor! [22:33:46] sumanah: I'd like to understand more about what I can commit [22:33:51] * sumanah blows victory kazoo [22:34:25] Oh, your trying to get space for an extention. [22:34:29] LukeDev: sure! so, have you already skimmed https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_become_a_MediaWiki_hacker ? (You might also enjoy https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:MediaWiki_architecture ) [22:34:48] Jroehl: [22:34:50] yes [22:35:26] LukeDev: ah, you are also interested in having a repository at gerrit.wikimedia.org [22:35:48] LukeDev: I assume you have already looked at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/New_repositories [22:35:52] sumanah: will that tell me about what can and can't be uploaded to git? What if I want to run an obscure language called fox pro? [22:36:17] LukeDev: basically, my question would be: what does your project have to do with Wikimedia technology? [22:36:33] People use a lot of different languages in their projects [22:36:46] sumanah: FYI, two dead links in the sentence "I find that the Stumptown Syndicate's Event Planning Handbook section on logistics ably summarizes the logistical side of what's needed at a technical event. " [22:36:51] Lucian are you LukeDev or Domo__? [22:37:02] Or both? [22:37:17] Jroehl: both [22:37:31] Thats confusing... [22:37:35] Oh, that's confusing [22:37:58] sumanah: Jroehl: still here [22:38:17] OK, so now that I know that LukeDev is the same as Domo is the same as theKaramanukian I can communicate better :) [22:38:20] brb [22:38:40] DeltaQuad: aieee, thanks for the bug report, will fix [22:40:00] Is there a button that will destroy everything an IP did. i am getting attacked with spam and "Nuke" extension refuses to do anything, and I'm not looking to click "rollback" 500 times [22:40:45] Wowy, google added some new toy. The infoboxes in the search results now have a link "People also search for" on inboxes of names. [22:40:45] http://cl.ly/image/2E1n2Y071z2y [22:40:47] DeltaQuad: hm, this may take longer than I had thought [22:40:55] :P [22:41:12] m3thyl: have you already checked out our anti-spam resource pages on mediawiki.org ? [22:41:21] (which, when clicked, expands to what is shown on that link) [22:41:24] m3thyl: some people at a makerspace coded up https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Secretaribot which may help you [22:41:31] subbu, yes i am reading it three times, i cannot find a functional nuke [22:41:48] DeltaQuad: http://meghangill.com/category/events/ may help you out as well [22:42:27] Jroehl: you might want to check out what sumanah recommended to me [22:42:30] 03(mod) labs-nfs1 full again - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40409 +comment (10Ryan Lane) [22:42:57] m3thyl, ? [22:43:17] subbu: that person probably meant me. [22:43:29] ah, ok [22:43:34] yes sorry [22:44:10] What was recomened? [22:48:08] New patchset: Kaldari; "Marking unreferenced tag compatible with multiple issues template" [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24505 [22:49:00] New patchset: Kaldari; "Marking unreferenced tag compatible with multiple issues template" [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24505 [22:49:28] Change merged: Kaldari; [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24505 [22:55:06] sumanah: where can I submit a design document? https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/WMF_Project_Design_Review_Process#Design_Document [22:55:29] LukeDev: let me ask jorm about that, he is the senior designer at the Wikimedia Foundation [22:55:51] Is it a wiki page? [22:55:53] LukeDev: of course you only need to submit that if you would like for your code to eventually run on Wikipedia or another Wikimedia Foundation site [22:56:01] I do [22:56:29] Jorm: does my extension have a wiki page? [22:56:44] Jorm: is that what you were asking? [22:56:49] i meant your design document. is it a wiki page, or is it a google doc, or what? [22:57:06] I haven't written it yet, [22:57:18] I just wanted to know where I would submit it [22:57:29] we need [[Category:Cathedral]] on mediawiki.org :) [22:58:35] I'd just write it up on mediawiki.org; when you're done leave a note on my talk page or something. we've never had anyone submit one for us. [22:59:24] jorm: no one's ever submitted an extension for deployment? [22:59:56] the document you're referring to is for internal projects; we've never done that for volunteer projects. [23:00:43] New patchset: Kaldari; "Updating PageTriage to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf11) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24506 [23:00:55] What if I just document the extension on an extension template page, and refer you to it. [23:01:49] By the way, LukeDev - extensions written by volunteers have been deployed (the history of https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Review_queue shows RandomRootPage and SubpageSortKey most recently) but many of them were not very user-facing [23:01:59] they were more back-end stuff and didn't need a user experience review [23:02:41] that will work. [23:03:07] Okay. I'd like to get your opinion on something before I continue. [23:03:33] New patchset: Kaldari; "Update PageTriage ext to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf12) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24507 [23:03:34] Would you either of you two be willing to check out this site? [23:03:39] sure. i've got to run right now, though. you can email me at bharris@wikimedia.org [or] leave me a message on my mw.org talk page my account there is "Jorm (MWF)" [23:03:45] err, Jorm (WMF) [23:03:53] aight. [23:04:01] jorm: I'm just gonna go ahead and clarify on https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/WMF_Project_Design_Review_Process#Design_Document how someone can submit that design doc [23:04:03] Change merged: Kaldari; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf11) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24506 [23:04:17] Change merged: Kaldari; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf12) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24507 [23:04:24] sumanah: awesome [23:05:25] sumanah: could you please give me your opinion on the timelines on this site? [23:05:27] http://wikitimelines.net/ [23:05:40] LukeDev: I am the least designer person ever [23:05:50] It's our working, yet slow prototype [23:06:08] Plu -leez? [23:07:38] sumanah: any thoughts? [23:07:55] no, I haven't looked yet [23:09:00] looking now [23:09:03] watching the video [23:09:40] the scrollbar is slow to respond (Epiphany on Ubuntu 10.10) [23:09:44] sumanah: The timelines underneath are more important! [23:09:53] Wow, somebody is looking at the website? [23:10:02] Well, I'm watching the tutorial video, because that's what's suggested to a new user, and I'm a new user [23:10:08] 03(mod) File extension letter case treatment should be unified on Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40326 +comment (10Marek Blahuš) [23:10:58] Well, that is my video. I am the one who did that video. [23:12:02] sumanah: Jroehl and I are working together on this project. We'd love to get your feedback. [23:12:29] This is weird, chatting with someone here that is watching my video. What a strange world we live in. [23:12:50] :) [23:13:07] Welcome to the Twilite Zone! [23:14:13] oh I need cookies for the menu? [23:15:06] Did it bomb? [23:15:20] Yes, cookies are required. [23:15:52] I got "Your cookies are turned off".... wow, 5:11 things get weird [23:16:29] ok, time to try to play with these timelines! [23:16:39] It is really hard to build a sophisticated website without cookies. [23:16:53] oh, I might turn on cookies [23:17:03] btw speaking of Wikimedia-related visualizations did you see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hsDn2kNriI ? [23:18:06] Jroehl: LukeDev - so, now I'm looking and and playing with the timelines, and will give you random impressions [23:18:26] This was interesting: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:TimelineTable [23:18:28] (the phrase you probably meant to use in the video is "click and drag" Jroehl - a little faster to say and understand) [23:18:55] What stupid thing did I say? lol [23:19:15] early in the video I think you say something a little wordier about moving the mouse [23:20:10] Like I was trying to explain it to my elderly parents... lol [23:20:12] ok, in the US history timeline, I can see around 1760 how the years start coming more frequently [23:20:31] (yeah, it's hard to explain things fluidly to multiple audiences, I sympathize) [23:21:08] I AM NOT A PROFESSIONAL PRESENTER!!!!! lol [23:21:11] but it's sort of confusing how the years' spacing isn't consistent -- and in between 1760 and 1776 there is actually a place where the names of years overlap and are unreadable [23:22:14] Yes, you can ajust the width of the "zones". [23:22:57] That whats cool about timelines. Everything is adjustable. [23:22:59] (I wasn't able to figure out how to adjust that width, just so you know) [23:23:21] sumanah: thanks for the feedback! [23:23:53] I can give more [23:24:06] please give more! [23:24:11] They are perfect for a wikipedia audience, because like wikipedia articles, there are thousands of ways to ajust them. [23:24:46] ok, so, if you're going for the experienced Wikimedian crowd, that's different from me then [23:25:01] So you could spend hours an hours adjusting widths of different sections of the timeline. [23:25:11] I have made a lot of edits but .... [23:25:25] sumanah: aren't you one of the most experienced wikimedians? [23:26:03] I am trying to flesh out an interface that makes them easy to ajust. [23:26:18] No. I've been working for the Foundation for about a year and a half, and have an editing history that maybe has hundreds or thousands of edits, mostly on Talk pages or on mediawiki.org, and goes back maybe 3 years [23:26:53] Hey Jroehl let's start an internal page for UX improvements. [23:27:02] your configuration interface is confusing to me -- I look at all those buttons and am a little dissuaded [23:27:28] sumanah: That's the stuff! we need to hear this! [23:28:05] Agreed, there is actually a lot there. [23:28:19] I would be turned off also. [23:28:23] experienced Wikimedians will of course want a lot of configurability, but the default interface, and the panel or dashboard for configuration, should have affordances that imply what one could do [23:28:40] * sumanah wonders whether the word "affordance" is generally understood [23:30:02] Actually, timelines are very complicated. And that is one reason why there are so many menu options. [23:30:13] When I clicked the "epochs" button I presumed that there would be an X button in the upper right to close it, but instead I had to click a button .... but within a timeline, to close an article view, I clicked an X .... that inconsistency was confusing [23:30:23] Tooltips on the bottons would help somewhat. [23:30:55] And putting thee menu items into categories initially would help. [23:31:11] another confusing thing: the various sections of each timeline have no label along the y axis and do not show me how to zoom out or in [23:31:54] Yes, it is an inconsistant interface. That is on my list to fix. Good comment. [23:32:18] I expect that when I double-click on a spot I will zoom in, like in a map [23:33:03] Jroehl: complicated timelines, complicated options. [23:33:13] Actually, when you double click on a spot, it centers the timeline there. [23:33:28] I don't know how the phrasings "zone" and "epoch" apply so those buttons don't look useful to me [23:33:44] yeah, I eventually did figure out that double clicking did something involving movement and centering [23:34:17] sumanah is complaining about all the stuff I have on my list. [23:34:42] it's confusing that there is an "article" button when, if you click on it, you get a blank area with no explanation of what the article is [23:35:10] It would be nice to zoom and magnify the timeline on a mose wheel roll. I just havent figured out how to do this. [23:35:43] I don't have a mousewheel though. [23:36:36] The article botton is supposed to bring up the actual wikipedia article in to an