[00:18:56] New patchset: Mwalker; "Adding support for Message Group Review States to CN" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24638 [00:19:54] New patchset: Catrope; "Fixes for Form.php, mostly escaping and $wgExtensionAssetsPath" [mediawiki/extensions/DonationInterface] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24646 [00:20:06] jeremyb: so, I just sent a note to mediawiki-l that means we might have to be more on our toes this weekend for new developer access requests :) [00:23:47] basically, I think the mediawiki-l list has never been told explicitly "come get developer access" [00:24:29] I imagine most poeple on the list aren't developers. [00:24:41] Or they already have access. [00:26:31] more data on the way! [00:32:52] 03(NEW) Parsoid: round-trip extra HTML end tags - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40438 normal; Parsoid: JS/DOM; (gwicke) [00:33:21] sumanah: yup, i saw [00:33:27] cool [00:34:18] 03(mod) Parsoid: round-trip extra HTML end tags - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40438 +comment (10Gabriel Wicke) [00:34:19] 03(mod) Parsoid: General round-tripping tracking bug - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39567 (10Gabriel Wicke) [00:34:55] Change merged: Nikerabbit; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24408 [00:38:51] dinner time [00:41:01] Change abandoned: Siebrand; "I thought I had a reason to add this. When Niklas asked me why, I couldn't reproduce what caused me ..." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24631 [01:30:32] 14(WFM) Uploading stuck about 1-2 minutes on "Finished!" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34997 +comment (10Erik Moeller) [02:17:41] New patchset: Tim Landscheidt; "Fix broken tests for Xml." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24648 [02:22:27] New review: Tim Landscheidt; "Waiting for confirmation at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:SPQRobin#Size_of_Xml::dateMenu_..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24648 [02:40:58] New patchset: Mwalker; "Introduction of the Central Notice Translation Aggregate Group!" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24649 [02:50:02] 03(mod) Advanced Formatting for Query Tables - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22037 +comment (10Sal Quintanilla) [02:57:46] New patchset: Mwalker; "Adding support for Message Group Review States to CN" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24638 [04:11:28] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "[FileBackend] Added getLocalCopyMulti() and getLocalReferenceMulti()." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24257 [04:29:16] Hi everyone, how can I mix the audio tracks while playing video using VLC ? Thanks a lot. [04:31:27] 03(mod) Centralised feedback page not visible. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40431 +comment (10Oliver Keyes) [04:31:45] 03(mod) Centralised feedback page not visible. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40431 +comment (10Oliver Keyes) [04:35:06] 03(mod) Centralised feedback page not visible. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40431 +comment (10Oliver Keyes) [04:53:13] 03(mod) Centralised feedback page not visible. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40431 (10wctaiwan) [05:08:24] 03(mod) ApiQueryImageInfo.php should wfSuppressErrors() before trying to unserialize - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35693 +patch-in-gerrit (10Tyler Romeo) [05:12:44] New review: Parent5446; "What happens if the unserialization is unsuccessful? From what it seems, even if unsuccessful, the m..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24465 [05:45:40] Change merged: Victor Vasiliev; [mediawiki/extensions/Scribunto] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23638 [05:48:02] New review: Victor Vasiliev; "But we do it (through ulimit -v). Maybe it's a Mac-only issue?" [mediawiki/extensions/Scribunto] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23639 [05:51:57] 03(NEW) Allow exceptions to rangeblocks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40439 normal; MediaWiki extensions: GlobalBlocking; (jasper) [06:11:32] hello, I have question about db access. How to update rows so that nobody could read these rows while updating. Something similar has $dbw->select with "FOR UPDATE" option, but it allows other to read the row. [06:24:41] Transactions? [06:41:43] New review: Daniel Friesen; "Unfortunately base already has unavoidable history. {{BASEPAGENAME}} and getBaseText(). All I'm doin..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/20478 [07:03:41] Change merged: IAlex; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24635 [07:12:11] Change merged: IAlex; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24637 [07:12:32] New patchset: Siebrand; "Maintenance for CodeReview extension." [mediawiki/extensions/CodeReview] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24651 [07:15:41] New review: Siebrand; "See http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:SPQRobin#Size_of_Xml::dateMenu_field and Ifd700826" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23994 [07:31:12] 03(NEW) Request creation of wikimedia-us-co mailing list - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40440 normal; Wikimedia: Mailing lists; (zhorishna) [07:32:19] 03(mod) Request creation of wikimedia-us-co mailing list - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40440 +comment (10Isarra) [07:39:18] New patchset: Raimond Spekking; "Revert "Localisation updates from http://translatewiki.net."" [mediawiki/extensions/Carp] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24652 [07:39:26] 03(NEW) firefox 15.0.1 - search field does initially when the word 'Search' is displayed not accept delete-end keys - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40441 normal; MediaWiki: User interface; (m.schweitzer) [07:40:49] 03(mod) firefox 15.0.1 - search field does initially when the word 'Search' is displayed not accept delete-end arrow-right keys - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40441 summary (10michiel schweitzer) [07:41:02] New patchset: Raimond Spekking; "Revert "Localisation updates from http://translatewiki.net."" [mediawiki/extensions/RevisionCommentSupplement] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24653 [07:43:32] New review: Aaron Schulz; "Code seems OK, doesn't blow up on my test wiki." [mediawiki/extensions/FlaggedRevs] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24420 [07:43:33] Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/extensions/FlaggedRevs] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24420 [07:44:09] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "Maintenance for FlaggedRevs extension." [mediawiki/extensions/FlaggedRevs] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24422 [07:50:22] New patchset: Siebrand; "Add missing return value." [mediawiki/extensions/FlaggedRevs] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24570 [08:00:46] Change merged: IAlex; [mediawiki/extensions/Collection] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/18443 [08:07:30] New patchset: IAlex; "Use $wgExtensionAssetsPath instead of $wgScriptPath for the URL path to the extension." [mediawiki/extensions/Collection] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24654 [08:12:54] New patchset: Siebrand; "Maintenance for Configure extension." [mediawiki/extensions/Configure] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23483 [08:14:54] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "Limit bad transactions warnings to those involving possible writes." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24655 [08:15:26] New review: Aaron Schulz; "The 'wfMessage' thing should be removed from the commit summary, since that was fixed in an earlier ..." [mediawiki/extensions/FlaggedRevs] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24422 [08:17:26] 03(mod) Search field is stuck with "Search" in it and cursor at the beginning until some character is typed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40441 summary; +comment (10Nemo_bis) [08:18:28] 03(mod) Search field is stuck with "Search" in it and cursor at the beginning until some character is typed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40441 (10Nemo_bis) [08:23:45] 03(mod) Search field is stuck with "Search" in it and cursor at the beginning until some character is typed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40441 +comment (10michiel schweitzer) [08:24:06] 03(mod) Search field is stuck with "Search" in it and cursor at the beginning until some character is typed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40441 (10michiel schweitzer) [08:52:37] 03(mod) Search field is stuck with "Search" in it and cursor at the beginning until some character is typed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40441 +comment (10Nemo_bis) [08:55:09] 03(mod) API retrieval of links from a page does not work with DPL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40283 (10duplicatebug) [08:57:30] 03(mod) Add user right to see logs which are deleted by deletelogentry - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40411 (10duplicatebug) [08:59:18] 03(mod) Add user right which allow only suppress of log entry - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40412 (10duplicatebug) [09:28:30] New patchset: Siebrand; "Maintenances updates for Moodbar." [mediawiki/extensions/MoodBar] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24571 [09:30:45] New patchset: Siebrand; "Maintenance for FlaggedRevs extension." [mediawiki/extensions/FlaggedRevs] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24422 [09:51:27] 03(mod) Request creation of wikimedia-us-co mailing list - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40440 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [10:00:37] 03(ASSIGNED) Add WP as alias on sewiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40436 +shell; +comment (10Dereckson) [10:12:05] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "@siebrand, @nikerabbit: this change does not introduce new behavior, it just logs a warning when tra..." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/21584 [10:14:24] 03(mod) Transaction warning: WikiPage::doDeleteArticleReal - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40375 +comment (10Daniel Kinzler) [10:16:34] 03(mod) Transaction warning: EditPage::commitWatch (SMWStore::updateData) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40377 +comment (10Daniel Kinzler) [10:17:05] 03(mod) Add Anexos to content namespaces on Spanish Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39866 +comment (10Dereckson) [10:17:05] 03(mod) Maintenance scripts waiting to be run on Wikimedia wikis (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29782 (10Dereckson) [10:21:30] 03(mod) Countable content namespaces evaluation (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40423 +comment (10Dereckson) [10:22:44] 03(mod) Transaction warning: WikiPage::doEdit (User::loadFromDatabase) (TranslateMetadata::get) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40378 +comment (10Daniel Kinzler) [10:40:56] 03(NEW) {{PAGENAME}} and like does nothing with url-encoded title - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40442 normal; MediaWiki: Parser; (francois.melchior) [10:42:06] 03(mod) Add WP as alias on sewiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40436 +comment (10Dereckson) [10:48:27] 14(INVALID) {{PAGENAME}} and like does nothing with url-encoded title - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40442 +comment (10Platonides) [10:50:54] New review: jan; "One little thing you should fix." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17588 [10:55:29] 04(REOPENED) {{PAGENAME}} and like does nothing with url-encoded title - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40442 +comment (10Liangent) [10:59:07] 03(mod) Set $wgAutoConfirmCount to 10 for Japanese Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40270 +comment (10Dereckson) [11:27:28] 03(mod) Countable content namespaces evaluation (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40423 +comment (10Nemo_bis) [11:34:22] 03(mod) Countable content namespaces evaluation (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40423 +comment (10Dereckson) [11:35:36] New patchset: Umherirrender; "Add User to Title::userCan calls in api" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24657 [11:39:27] 03(mod) Add WP as alias on sewiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40436 (10jeblad) [11:46:17] New patchset: Umherirrender; "Use local var for database to WikiExporter " [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24658 [12:05:03] 03(mod) Countable content namespaces evaluation (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40423 +comment (10Erik Zachte) [12:08:39] 03(mod) Countable content namespaces evaluation (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40423 +comment (10Dereckson) [13:40:32] Do we actually need $wgAllowDisplayTitle anymore? [13:41:43] Dantman, of course [13:41:47] why wouldn't we need it? [13:42:29] ...it only existed because {{DISPLAYTITLE:}} was buggy in 1.14... it's not buggy anymore... so why do we need the ability to turn off DISPLAYTITLE? [13:43:39] what do you mean by buggy? [13:44:26] Sorry 1.10 [13:44:27] ah, I was thinking in $wgRestrictDisplayTitle [13:44:29] "$wgAllowDisplayTitle was disabled by default in MediaWiki until 1.10.0, as previous implementations were buggy, incompatible with caching, and didn't perform title normalisation checks, which are essential to allow correct linking to articles." [13:44:33] Mhmm [13:44:37] ;) Thought you were [13:45:10] yes, $wgAllowDisplayTitle can probably go [13:45:44] Speaking of $wgRestrictDisplayTitle I've wanted to do something for awhile... [13:46:44] I wanted to add a mode where we can remove the display title restrictions... but instead of it being all-open when you do use an unrestricted title the real title gets added into a subtitle. [13:48:19] So {{DISPLAYTITLE:iPod}} on [[IPod]] works normally. But when you use {{DISPLAYTITLE:This is a question?}} on [[Question:This is a question?]] a subtitle saying something like "Pagename: Question:This is a question?" is also displayed. [13:48:54] So you can change the title tex to whatever you want without losing the real title. [13:51:40] New patchset: Raimond Spekking; "Style tweaks to unbreak Translatewiki.net scripts, hopefully..." [mediawiki/extensions/Carp] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24659 [13:52:45] Change merged: Daniel Kinzler; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24539 [13:59:26] Change merged: Daniel Kinzler; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24546 [14:01:15] 03(mod) Missing file in swift - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40437 +comment (10Platonides) [14:01:59] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "This needs a test that actually tests the uniqueness constraint, i.e. a test that tries to save two ..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: -1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24549 [14:02:22] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "This needs a test that actually tests the uniqueness constraint, i.e. a test that tries to save two ..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24549 [14:05:31] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "Tests: check failure on conflicting label for both Property and Query." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24550 [14:06:38] New patchset: Tpt; "(bug 37764) Allow imageInfo API query to give XML DJVU metadata" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24660 [14:09:21] 03(ASSIGNED) InstantCommons doesn't display DjVu on some installs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37764 +patch-need-review; +comment (10Tpt) [14:13:42] New patchset: Raimond Spekking; "Enable export of translation for 'de-ch' per request" [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24661 [14:14:01] Change merged: Raimond Spekking; [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24661 [14:16:48] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "I will add a test later, in a follow up commit, not by amending this one. Disagree with -1 for somet..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24549 [14:48:41] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "I can merge it without the test, but then a bug should be filed, so this isn't forgotten." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24549 [14:49:06] New review: Alex Monk; "What's the status of this?" [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16580 [15:00:49] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "Causes breakage in the UI: when removing a sitelink via the "remove" links, it gets deleted from the..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: -1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24541 [15:08:36] 03(NEW) Unit tests needed for uniqueness constraint on labels of properties and queries - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40443 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; (daniel.kinzler) [15:09:45] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "Filed bug for missing tests: 40443" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24550 [15:12:39] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "Filed bug for missing tests: 40443" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24549 [15:12:40] Change merged: Daniel Kinzler; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24554 [15:12:40] Change merged: Daniel Kinzler; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24555 [15:12:40] Change merged: Daniel Kinzler; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24550 [15:12:41] Change merged: Daniel Kinzler; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24549 [15:23:46] New patchset: Raimond Spekking; "Remove merge conflict headers/lines" [mediawiki/extensions/RevisionCommentSupplement] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24662 [15:26:13] 03(mod) "Show all messages" and so on return empty lists - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40413 +comment (10Nemo_bis) [15:28:14] Crapcrapcrap... now I want to implement a threading system myself... [15:28:46] New review: Raimond Spekking; "Merge conflict left and merged!!!!" [mediawiki/extensions/RevisionCommentSupplement] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23989 [15:48:10] ...and I feel like adding the namespace rewrite to the list of things I want to work on if I ever get hired to churn out MW code exclusively [15:54:14] Dantman: Part of the reason I think it was difficult to get behind your MediaWiki Foundation proposal was that it seemed a bit self-serving. [16:02:54] could you even make it seem another way? [16:03:29] I'm not sure what you're asking. [16:03:56] There's a (likely) personal (financial) motivation for the success of the proposal from its author. [16:03:59] So probably not. [16:04:27] 03(mod) Countable content namespaces evaluation (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40423 +comment (10Dereckson) [16:09:19] ...yeah, not much you can do... It's a foundation dedicated to letting volunteers work on things useful to MediaWiki as a whole... who else is going to write the proposal besides someone who would want to work for such a foundation... the only other entity I could think of would be a 3rd party company who wants a foundation to exist so they don't have to spend so much hiring developers themselves... [16:10:02] * Brooke nods. [16:11:20] ;) I suppose it didn't help that I got tired of writing after finishing the "Anarchy" section and didn't get to writing the section on how the foundation could base priorities on donor votes [16:13:07] Well, I made a suggestion on the talk page about re-titling the RFC. [16:13:14] And making the Foundation option just one of many. [16:13:25] == MediaWiki Foundation ==, == MediaWiki department ===, etc. [16:19:00] 03(mod) jquery.placeholder should take the placeholder value as first parameter - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40430 summary; +comment (10Krinkle) [16:22:45] 03(mod) jquery.placeholder should take the placeholder value as first parameter - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40430 +comment (10Krinkle) [16:23:14] * Dantman hasn't had the time to get back to writing anything on that page [16:23:54] The issues you're trying to address still weren't quite clear to me. [16:24:05] "Projects that the Wikimedia Foundation isn't working on" seemed to the theme. [16:24:18] Where "projects" is infinite in scope. [16:24:39] Where is the proposal? [16:24:40] The tarball/package release part seemed kind of retarded to me, TBH. [16:24:59] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/MediaWiki_Foundation [16:26:48] Sure, of course it's infinite in scope... https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/RFC just gets larger and larger, things almost never being finished... and we have THOUSANDS of open bugs... ;) of course there's almost no scopem [16:27:31] Right, but that's the big unresolved issue. [16:27:37] How do you triage/prioritize? [16:28:03] ;) that's the section I never got around to writing [16:28:06] You don't, at least not the way *you* are considering it. [16:28:17] Also, I don't think you've reached maximum utilization of volunteer developers. [16:28:26] you being very generic, there. [16:28:53] Most of the big ideas and whatnot are still focused on problems of Wikimedia wikis. [16:29:08] A lot of them focused on problems related to non-Wikipedias. [16:29:21] You need the Not Wikipedia Foundation. [16:29:33] WE CAN MAKE THIS NAMING MORE CONFUSING, WE PROMISE. [16:29:45] lol [16:30:04] Oh, I *so* want sections of that re-written. [16:30:07] At least in bugs and the RFC, the bugs aren't about enterprise users. [16:30:10] Or academic users. [16:30:10] like section0 [16:30:11] Or whatever. [16:30:24] There's no lead. [16:30:32] RFC leads are always awkward. [16:30:52] I guess by their nature, you'd have find enterprise bugs and ideas on forums and mailing lists. [16:31:11] Normal people avoid IRC and bug trackers. [16:31:27] Normal people do not code. [16:31:30] Well... for enterprise the aide is a little more indirect than direct [16:31:38] (or, for that matter, need wikis) [16:31:44] This isn't coding. If they could code, they'd write the code themselves. [16:31:54] This is "I see a need here" or "I see a bug here". [16:31:58] * chrisc or chat with people in irc :-p [16:32:05] Where the need/code isn't related to Wikimedia wikis. [16:32:12] Most of our bugs and RFCs are related to Wikimedia wikis. [16:32:13] Nonsense. I can code (badly), but for the most part I use other people's programs. [16:32:23] * chrisc waves at Amgine and wanders off again... [16:32:32] [16:32:43] Amgine: So does everyone else. That's the point. [16:33:03] The ones who can code a solution aren't going to sit on a forum asking how to do it. [16:33:04] But obviously you missed mine. [16:33:06] They'll just do it. [16:33:11] I usually do. [16:33:34] Or they get on IRC and figure it out. [16:33:47] On the nature of bugs, [16:34:00] ;) or they'll put it into a long list and say "I'll do it some day." [16:34:09] FIXME [16:34:22] @FIXME [16:34:44] Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/extensions/FlaggedRevs] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24422 [16:35:01] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "Add missing return value." [mediawiki/extensions/FlaggedRevs] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24570 [16:35:33] New review: Aaron Schulz; "Redundant, but doesn't hurt." [mediawiki/extensions/FlaggedRevs] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24570 [16:35:33] Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/extensions/FlaggedRevs] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24570 [16:56:21] New review: SPQRobin; "Replied on my Meta talk page: yes in was intentional." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24648 [16:57:59] 03(mod) $wgSelectCategoryRoot ignored on Special:Upload - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24911 +comment (10Christian Boltz) [16:59:53] 03(mod) Countable content namespaces evaluation (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40423 +comment (10Erik Zachte) [17:00:19] Dantman, Brooke: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Requests_for_comment/MediaWiki_Foundation#lede [17:01:49] 03(mod) Transaction warning: WikiPage::doEdit (User::loadFromDatabase) (TranslateMetadata::get) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40378 +comment (10Niklas Laxström) [17:02:51] 03(FIXED) Treeview of categories breaks in IE9 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30557 +comment (10Christian Boltz) [17:02:59] Amgine: You just spell it like that because you know it bothers me. [17:03:03] Also, [17:06:11] New patchset: Krinkle; "Create mw.Time module." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16848 [17:08:43] 03(mod) "Show all messages" and so on return empty lists - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40413 +comment (10Niklas Laxström) [17:08:43] 03(mod) Request creation of wikimedia-us-co mailing list - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40440 +comment (10Isarra) [17:08:53] New review: Krinkle; "* Cleaned up unit tests to be better test the module in separate standalone units." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: -1 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16848 [17:09:35] 03(mod) Transaction warning: WikiPage::doEdit (User::loadFromDatabase) (TranslateMetadata::get) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40378 +comment (10Aaron Schulz) [17:14:04] New patchset: Krinkle; "Create mw.Time module." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16848 [17:14:39] New review: Krinkle; "* Reset topic to "mwTime" (accidentally became "I9f9ca62f")" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: -1 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16848 [17:15:54] New patchset: Santhosh; "Internationalize ULS" [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24663 [17:17:10] New patchset: Hoo man; "Show edit link only to user with the editinterface right" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralAuth] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24426 [17:19:46] New patchset: Hoo man; "Show edit link only to user with the editinterface right" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralAuth] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24426 [17:21:15] New patchset: Hoo man; "Show edit link only to user with the editinterface right" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralAuth] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24426 [17:22:17] 03(mod) jquery.byteLimit incorrectly limits input when using methods other than basic per-char typing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38163 summary (10Krinkle) [17:24:03] New review: Hoo man; "Fixed (the link to Special:GlobalUsers/foo disappeared but one edit link didn't) and replaced wfMsgE..." [mediawiki/extensions/CentralAuth] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24426 [17:25:17] Change merged: Santhosh; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24568 [17:30:39] 03(mod) Countable content namespaces evaluation (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40423 +comment (10Nemo_bis) [17:31:47] New review: Siebrand; "Yes, that should have fixed it." [mediawiki/extensions/Carp] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24659 [17:31:47] Brooke, "Also,"? [17:32:33] 03(ASSIGNED) Request creation of wikimedia-us-co mailing list - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40440 normal->15enhancement; +comment (10Thehelpfulone) [17:38:54] New patchset: Hoo man; "Show edit link only to user with the editinterface right" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralAuth] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24426 [17:40:04] New review: Hoo man; "Fixed a mistake of mine (that happened cause I didn't yet have the local group names myself) :/" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralAuth] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24426 [17:40:52] 03(FIXED) Deployment of TTMServer translation memory - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36236 +comment (10Niklas Laxström) [17:41:38] 03(mod) Request for FDC mailing list - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40280 +comment (10Thehelpfulone) [17:42:25] 03(FIXED) Special:LastModified design/output - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37895 (10Niklas Laxström) [17:43:30] New review: Nischayn22; "Okay, then can this be merged into a separate branch? I will try to improve it to merge with master." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMaps] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23942 [17:44:12] [17:45:41] 03(FIXED) Parser doesn't support protocol relative external links in single-bracketed or free link syntax - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29497 +comment (10Niklas Laxström) [17:48:06] 03(FIXED) Fatals in ffs/MediaWikiExtensions.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39993 +comment (10Niklas Laxström) [17:48:58] 03(mod) Spam from mediawiki-cvs-bounces - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37690 +comment (10Niklas Laxström) [17:49:10] 03(NEW) Some pages are not transcluded while using tag - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40444 normal; MediaWiki extensions: ProofreadPage; (ankry) [17:49:59] 03(FIXED) Special:ManageMessageGroups indicated imports but does not display them - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39796 +comment (10Niklas Laxström) [17:52:47] 03(mod) Parser doesn't support protocol relative external links in single-bracketed or free link syntax - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29497 (10mybugs.mail) [17:56:57] 03(mod) Transaction warning: WikiPage::doDeleteArticleReal - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40375 +comment (10Alexandre Emsenhuber [IAlex]) [17:58:45] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "Sure. I just created a "nischayn" branch, feel free to push to that :)" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMaps] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23942 [18:01:59] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "You should be able to approve your own commits to that branch" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMaps] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23942 [18:02:44] New review: Nischayn22; "A branch named after me lol, thanks" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMaps] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23942 [18:05:31] New patchset: Tpt; "(bug 40444) Fix a bug that break some transclusions with pages witch name include ","" [mediawiki/extensions/ProofreadPage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24664 [18:09:10] 03(ASSIGNED) Some pages are not transcluded while using tag - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40444 normal->04CRIT; +patch-need-review; +comment (10Tpt) [18:14:00] I keep getting http://dpaste.org/jTFLC/ in gerrrit, anybody has any idea why if this is a bug or something [18:14:35] git-review is not gerrit [18:14:48] you're doing something like ctrl+c which is killing git-review [18:14:48] 03(mod) Is the OTRS API active and can it be used? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28976 +comment (10Tommy Yang) [18:14:51] 03(mod) Upgrade Wikimedia OTRS installation to the latest version - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22622 (10Tommy Yang) [18:15:00] ah, yes its not.. [18:15:18] I didn't do ctrl+c [18:15:49] Well what did you do? [18:15:58] KeyboardInterrupt shouldn't just randomly occur if you didn't do anything... [18:16:16] Krenair: I just type it in.. after leaving for a couple minutes this message shows up [18:16:32] And you keep getting this? [18:16:50] I know a little python and have seen this message on pressing the keyboard, but now I am not pressing it [18:16:58] New patchset: Tim Landscheidt; "Reenable testStoredFunctions() in DatabaseTest.php." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24665 [18:16:58] yes, several times [18:21:49] Krenair: I think that happens coz of low internet speed [18:27:46] 03(mod) SelectCategoryTagCloud doesn't work after system upgrade - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/21468 +comment (10Christian Boltz) [18:28:13] 03(mod) SelectCategoryTagCloud is not properly escaping tags - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/20999 +comment (10Christian Boltz) [18:37:41] 03(mod) Spam from mediawiki-cvs-bounces - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37690 +comment (10Chad H.) [18:47:05] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "[FileBackend] Added getFileContentsMulti() and improved it for Swift." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24666 [18:47:05] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "[FileBackend] Optimized concatenate() to use getLocalReferenceMulti()." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24667 [19:06:16] New patchset: Helder.wiki; "Add "#mw-prefsection-gadgets" to preferences links" [mediawiki/extensions/Gadgets] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24668 [19:10:12] 03(mod) Parser doesn't support protocol relative external links in single-bracketed or free link syntax - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29497 +comment (10Krinkle) [19:10:19] 03(mod) #babel does not add a page to User-lang category - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39225 +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [19:10:32] 03(FIXED) Parser doesn't support protocol relative external links in single-bracketed syntax - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29497 summary (10Krinkle) [19:10:51] 03(mod) #babel does not add a page to User-lang category - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39225 +comment (10Nemo_bis) [19:10:56] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "Added "parallelize" option to file performance test script." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24669 [19:12:11] 03(mod) #babel does not add a page to User-lang category - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39225 +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [19:12:22] New review: Tpt; "Major bug: we can't wait for a review" [mediawiki/extensions/ProofreadPage] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24664 [19:12:22] Change merged: Tpt; [mediawiki/extensions/ProofreadPage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24664 [19:13:13] 03(mod) Some pages are not transcluded while using tag - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40444 -patch-need-review ; +comment (10Tpt) [19:13:45] 03(mod) Configure $wgBabelCategoryNames and $wgBabelMainCategory for pl.wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39225 -shell +shellpolicy; summary (10Nemo_bis) [19:14:09] Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24669 [19:16:17] New patchset: Tim Landscheidt; "(bug 35492) Respect string property values in CSSMin." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24670 [19:19:03] 03(FIXED) CSSMin::minify should leave string property values untouched - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35492 +comment (10Tim Landscheidt) [19:28:24] 03(mod) Treeview of categories breaks in IE9 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30557 +comment (10Daniel Kinzler) [19:37:34] 03(mod) Transaction warning: WikiPage::doEdit (User::loadFromDatabase) (TranslateMetadata::get) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40378 +comment (10Daniel Kinzler) [19:41:03] 03(mod) Transaction warning: WikiPage::doDeleteArticleReal - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40375 +comment (10Daniel Kinzler) [19:50:33] 03(mod) Treeview of categories breaks in IE9 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30557 +comment (10Christian Boltz) [19:54:33] 04(REOPENED) CSSMin::minify should leave string property values untouched - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35492 +comment (10Krinkle) [19:55:38] 03(mod) Transaction warning: WikiPage::doDeleteArticleReal - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40375 +comment (10Aaron Schulz) [19:57:26] New review: Krinkle; "Thanks a lot for this patch. This looks very promising." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24670 [19:57:31] 03(WONTFIX) Include Portal: in default search on svwp - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34780 +comment (10Dereckson) [19:59:30] 03(ASSIGNED) Point Wikipedias logo to more up to date 2.0 version on Commons where available - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40285 +patch-in-gerrit; +comment (10Dereckson) [20:02:26] 03(mod) Set $wgAutoConfirmCount to 10 for Japanese Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40270 +comment (10Dereckson) [20:03:23] 03(mod) Mass update Wiktionary favicons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40212 +comment (10Dereckson) [20:06:52] Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24665 [20:07:41] 03(mod) Mass update Wiktionary favicons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40212 +comment (10Nemo_bis) [20:10:24] 03(mod) Allow exceptions to rangeblocks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40439 normal->15enhancement; +comment (10Nemo_bis) [20:11:06] New patchset: Krinkle; "jquery.byteLimit: Rewrite (fix bug 38158, bug 38163)" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23771 [20:11:15] New review: Krinkle; "* Addressed issues" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23771 [20:12:05] New patchset: Krinkle; "jquery.byteLimit: Rewrite (fix bug 38158, bug 38163)" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23771 [20:12:13] New review: Krinkle; "* Rebased" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23771 [20:13:50] 03(mod) jquery.byteLimit sometimes causes an unexpected 0 maxLength being enforced - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38158 +comment (10Krinkle) [20:15:05] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "I think a much better solution would be to actually support nested queries. it wouldn't be hard, eit..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24655 [20:18:40] Nemo_bis: no, the two are one and the same (re bug 40439) [20:19:04] at the moment it is a hassle to whitelist legitimate users on a webhost [20:31:58] 03(mod) Treeview of categories breaks in IE9 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30557 +comment (10Daniel Kinzler) [20:37:36] New review: Matmarex; "A wild idea I had. Also found a typo, I'll fix it in another patchset and +1." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23771 [20:40:34] New patchset: Matmarex; "jquery.byteLimit: Rewrite (fix bug 38158, bug 38163)" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23771 [20:41:58] New review: Matmarex; "PS4: fixed a typo and a whitespace issue." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23771 [20:43:06] Krinkle: ^ [20:43:16] Krinkle: thanks for your work on this :) [20:43:47] you're welcome, thanks to you too for reviewing me. It keeps me fresh as well :) [20:44:22] :) [20:48:03] 03(mod) Point Wikipedias logo to more up to date 2.0 version on Commons where available - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40285 -shell +shellpolicy; +comment (10Dereckson) [20:48:58] New review: Aaron Schulz; "I'd prefer to give warnings until we actually come up with some proper nested call handling and audi..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24655 [21:03:28] Dantman: :-) [21:03:41] ? [21:04:39] 03(NEW) Error in {{NUMBEROFFILES}} - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40445 normal; Wikimedia: Site configuration; (f.berteau) [21:04:40] 03(ASSIGNED) Activating flood flag on it.wikibooks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39569 +patch-in-gerrit; +comment (10Dereckson) [21:06:28] 03(ASSIGNED) Create Iberocoop: namespace on Meta - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38398 +comment (10Dereckson) [21:07:10] 03(mod) Error in {{NUMBEROFFILES}} - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40445 (10f.berteau) [21:07:51] 03(mod) Error in {{NUMBEROFFILES}} - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40445 (10f.berteau) [21:07:52] 03(mod) Maintenance scripts waiting to be run on Wikimedia wikis (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29782 (10f.berteau) [21:09:49] 03(mod) Error in {{NUMBEROFFILES}} - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40445 normal->trivial (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [21:09:50] 03(mod) Maintenance scripts waiting to be run on Wikimedia wikis (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29782 (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [21:10:38] 03(mod) Error in {{NUMBEROFFILES}} on the French Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40445 summary (10MZMcBride) [21:12:32] 03(mod) Point Wikipedias logo to more up to date 2.0 version on Commons where available - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40285 (10Nemo_bis) [21:12:50] 03(mod) Create Iberocoop: namespace on Meta - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38398 +comment (10Dereckson) [21:15:07] 03(VERIFIED) Incorrect page count on gu.wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40173 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [21:25:11] 03(NEW) Pain points of using MediaWiki namespaces on a centralized wiki rather than dividing content between multiple wikis (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40446 normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (b) [21:26:25] Could a missing password in the created LocalSettings.php cause a mediawiki to NOT work in public? [21:27:11] I just installed Mageia WITH everything that involves mediawiki & still noone can access it from outside. [21:27:19] It works perfectly fine internally. [21:27:37] 03(NEW) Provide per-namespace sidebars (or sidebar sections) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40447 normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (b) [21:27:38] 03(mod) Pain points of using MediaWiki namespaces on a centralized wiki rather than dividing content between multiple wikis (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40446 (10MZMcBride) [21:27:40] When I installed task-lamp I wasn't asked to change the root-pass. [21:27:53] mysqld -p root ? [21:27:58] mysqld -p root -u? [21:28:05] is there a painless way to quickly test behavior of variants on your own wiki? [21:28:14] To change the root pass ? [21:28:34] MatmaRex: You're asking me? [21:28:44] Umeaboy: no [21:28:54] just throwing the question to anyone who cares to answer [21:29:13] OK. [21:34:26] MatmaRex: What do you mean by varaints? [21:34:27] variants [21:34:39] Umeaboy: Isn't it blank by default? [21:34:44] Have you tried leaving it blank? [21:34:56] I'm not sure what you're trying to do. [21:35:28] Brooke: the thing they have on zh-wiki, https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:首页?uselang=en [21:35:35] "不转换" next to "Discussion" [21:35:46] Ohhh. [21:35:46] Umeaboy, what's the issue exactly? [21:36:04] i'm working on https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=457 and i want to see if i'm maybe breaking anything [21:36:07] MatmaRex: I think that's mostly Tim's work. [21:36:37] I don't know much about that magic. [21:36:41] It should be in Git, though. [21:36:43] In the operations repo. [21:36:46] You can see what it's doing. [21:36:58] The easiest way to test locally would be to set it up the same way, surely. [21:39:09] Brooke: Yes. [21:39:16] 03(mod) Pain points of using MediaWiki namespaces on a centralized wiki rather than dividing content between multiple wikis (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40446 (10MZMcBride) [21:39:25] I changed it & now I can't open mysql [21:39:35] Brooke: "variant" appears a few times in https://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/highlight.php?file=InitialiseSettings.php, but [21:39:47] You'd actually want hte Apache config first, I think? [21:39:52] ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO) [21:39:52] It's doing crazy shit in the URL. [21:39:54] wgVariantArticlePath - do i need to use it? i dont have short paths configured on my testwiki [21:40:03] Umeaboy: This is with or without -p? [21:40:09] wgVectorShowVariantName - according to https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgVectorShowVariantName, removed in 1.19 [21:40:13] 03(mod) Pain points of using multiple namespaces on a single wiki rather than multiple wikis (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40446 summary (10Nemo_bis) [21:40:15] Umeaboy: First explain what you're trying to do. Then explain how you're currently trying to do it. [21:40:19] Paste as much as you want. [21:40:19] Without. [21:40:24] wgDisabledVariants - i suppose i have to get them enabled first? [21:40:30] that's it. [21:40:39] nothing hinting at how to enable them... [21:40:57] I can't remember this if this is the same as TITLECONVERT and such. [21:41:00] mysqladmin -u root password mynewpasswordwhichIdon'twanttohandouthereagain [21:41:30] I'm not sure what you're pasting. [21:41:43] 03(mod) Allow exceptions to rangeblocks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40439 +comment (10Jasper Deng) [21:42:15] 03(mod) Provide per-namespace sidebars (or sidebar sections) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40447 +comment (10Nemo_bis) [21:43:42] Ugh Umeaboy are you still having trouble with MySQL auth? :/ [21:43:58] Krenair: Well, at this time, yes. [21:44:01] You said it works internally, but not to other people? [21:44:04] 03(mod) Pain points of using multiple namespaces on a single wiki rather than multiple wikis (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40446 +comment (10Nemo_bis) [21:44:09] Or is this a separate issue? [21:44:09] 03(mod) Allow exceptions to global IP rangeblocks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40439 summary; +comment (10MZMcBride) [21:44:23] Why can't you do the specific changes during the creation of LocalSettings.php ? [21:44:41] I mean such as changing the mysql pass & such. [21:44:51] Brooke: Right (@ your comment on bug 40439) [21:45:00] When the installer created LocalSettings.php you set the MySQL password [21:45:19] If you've now changed things, you'll need to update LocalSettings [21:46:33] 03(mod) Clean up use of header tags in MonoBook & Vector skin UI elements - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/457 +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [21:47:06] Krenair: I DID set it. [21:47:20] OK. [21:47:27] Looking in LocalSettings.php [21:47:29] ....... [21:47:42] make sure you save the file in the wiki root directory [21:47:57] See $wgDB* [21:48:44] 03(mod) Pain points of using multiple namespaces on a single wiki rather than multiple wikis (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40446 +comment (10MZMcBride) [21:48:56] I still can't open mysql. [21:49:02] 03(mod) Allow exceptions to global IP rangeblocks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40439 +comment (10Nemo_bis) [21:49:16] Jasper_Deng: Yes, it is. [21:49:35] Otherwize it can't be started & viewed internally. [21:50:03] 03(mod) Allow exceptions to global IP rangeblocks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40439 +comment (10Jasper Deng) [21:50:47] mysql -u -p [21:50:51] enter password [21:50:55] Does that work? [21:51:13] are you able to use PHPMyAdmin? [21:51:15] Umeaboy: [21:51:16] If so, set the $wgDBname and $wgDBpassword variables appropriately [21:51:31] Jasper_Deng: So you want global IP rangeblock exemptions? [21:51:35] Brooke: yeah [21:51:44] Okay, the summary still doesn't quite reflect that. [21:51:59] But you'd naturally also want exemptions at a global level as well, I guess? [21:52:08] But you'd need to test with local IP blocks. [21:52:11] To make sure nothing breaks. [21:52:15] Kind of a precedence nightmare. [21:52:19] Brooke: no, it's more about exempting a range from an entire global block on all wikis [21:52:44] The wiki seems to work internally again as I restarted mysqld [21:52:51] Has this only come up in the context of IPv6 addresses? [21:53:03] AFAIK that's the case [21:53:07] Krenair: I'll look. [21:53:08] K. [21:53:11] though I'd imagine that was also the case when [21:53:11] Good. [21:53:13] So it should also work externally [21:53:15] IPv4 of OVH hosting was blocked [21:53:22] (it has Toolserver on it) [21:53:24] If it doesn't, that shouldn't be a MySQL issue [21:54:05] 03(mod) Allow global whitelisting for global blocks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40439 summary; +comment (10Nemo_bis) [21:54:24] Krenair: That seemed to work since I came into MariaDB-prompt. [21:54:43] MariaDB [(none)]> [21:54:57] What's next? [21:54:59] Yes, and you already established that the wiki is working [21:55:11] Yes, but what about externally? [21:55:19] You said internally. It should also work externally. If it doesn't work externally, then there are other non-DB issues [21:57:22] like firewalling [21:57:30] MatmaRex: How are variants related to https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=457 ? [21:58:17] Well, it's not working externally. [21:58:37] http://213.21.78.135/mediawiki [21:58:49] 03(mod) Add Autopatrolled group on Da.wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39527 +shellpolicy; +comment (10Dereckson) [22:00:57] I can't even connect to that IP, Umeaboy [22:01:36] Krenair: Should I open port 80 for TCP? [22:01:40] Use [22:01:43] Yes [22:01:46] OK. [22:02:23] 03(mod) Add Autopatrolled group on Da.wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39527 +comment (10Dereckson) [22:02:26] And does it work now? [22:02:33] Krenair: ^^ [22:02:52] Nope. [22:02:56] OK. [22:02:58] Can't even seem to ping the IP [22:03:04] What could be causing this then? [22:03:05] Are you sure that's your external IP..? [22:03:11] Yes. [22:03:45] I went to http://www.whatsmyip.org/ to check. [22:04:02] It always displays the external IP. [22:04:22] Umeaboy: Make sure that you have port forwarding setup if your webserver doesn't have that IP [22:05:01] Aaaaaah. OK. [22:05:52] 03(mod) CSSMin::minify should leave string property values untouched - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35492 +comment (10Tim Landscheidt) [22:05:59] 03(mod) Change logo/favicon for Es.Wikt (Es.Wt) and change the name of the flags 'Autopatrullero' and 'Patrullero' to 'Autoverificado' and 'Verificador' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40186 +shellpolicy; +comment (10Dereckson) [22:06:07] Have to reconnect due to changes in the PF-settings of my router. I'll be Bach. [22:06:55] Brooke: the part of interface variants use use a h4 and a h5 which make no sense [22:06:59] and stuff may break when i change these [22:07:44] Hmmm, yeah, I imagine it's unloved code. [22:11:33] it's badly unloved [22:11:36] whi is https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24500 wontifxed? [22:12:12] there's some bikeshedding discussion about XHTML and suddently a WONTFIX [22:13:10] It's not an issue with HTML5 [22:13:34] Which is default [22:13:43] clearly it isn't, thats why i'm asking [22:15:31] Krenair: And does it work now? [22:16:00] Umeaboy: your $wgServer has to be set to something other than localhost [22:16:09] I already showed him how to set that [22:16:21] but did he? [22:16:28] it should be his public IP [22:16:30] Krenair: Yes, I was supposed to save that discussion somewhere. [22:16:34] Well, he did... [22:16:37] I guess he's reset the config now [22:16:42] I'll have to look in my mediafire-account. [22:16:50] Show me your current $wgServer, Umeaboy [22:17:27] $wgServer = "http://localhost"; [22:17:30] Set it to this: [22:17:53] $wgServer "http://" . $_SERVER['HTTP_HOST']; [22:17:54] Umeaboy: is your public IP static? [22:18:15] Krenair: isn't that vulnerable to register_globals attacks? [22:18:39] I don't know. [22:18:42] Jasper_Deng: I get it from DHCP if that's what you're wondering. If I change to a firm IP-adress my router goes berzoik after some time. [22:18:55] Its like it can't give out any more IP-adresses. [22:19:07] And YES........I've flashed OpenWRT into it. [22:19:13] what about DD-WRT? [22:19:28] DD-WRT? [22:19:30] Que? [22:19:31] well, in any case, you have a problem if your router chokes on static public addresses [22:19:38] (DD-WRT is an alternative to OpenWRT) [22:19:43] OK. [22:19:56] Still fully open sourced ? [22:20:00] yes [22:20:03] OK. [22:20:29] Jasper_Deng, $_SERVER['HTTP_HOST'] is the Host: header set by the client... [22:20:41] Don't think it could cause any security issues.. [22:20:48] Krenair: I thought everything using "HTTP" could be vulnerable [22:20:56] but now I remember it's safe if $_SERVER is used [22:21:38] Well all the HTTP_ keys for that array are user set, but we're relying on that here [22:21:51] Take a look now. [22:21:57] It needs to be set to localhost if accessed from localhost, or the external IP if accessed externally [22:22:08] I've made the change as root in LocalSettings.php [22:22:12] as suggested. [22:22:13] Umeaboy: now 500 internal server error [22:22:25] 04(REOPENED) Do not output empty portlets - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24500 +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [22:22:28] I restarted mysqld as well. [22:22:35] ... Why? [22:22:39] Along with httpd. [22:22:47] Krenair: That's not a must? [22:22:48] Why did you restart mysqld and httpd? [22:23:02] To make the changews [22:23:04] Umeaboy: set $wgShowExceptionDetails=true [22:23:06] changes set. [22:23:11] OK. [22:23:11] so we can see your error [22:23:20] You don't need to do that when simply modifying LocalSettings [22:23:32] 03(mod) Clean up use of header tags in MonoBook & Vector skin UI elements - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/457 (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [22:23:33] 03(mod) Don't make empty sections in the first place - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/23026 (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [22:23:34] 03(mod) Do not output empty portlets - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24500 (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [22:24:26] Umeaboy: and also, add error_reporting( -1 ); [22:24:28] ini_set( 'display_errors', 1 ); [22:24:29] to the /top/ of your LocalSettings.php [22:25:20] Wait......... I can't see such line. [22:25:35] I even use gedit's search. [22:25:40] used [22:25:48] He's telling you to add the lines to LocalSettings.php [22:25:51] Not to search for them [22:25:55] OK. [22:25:58] they don't exist by default [22:26:00] Sorry. [22:26:08] Put it anywhere? [22:26:12] Heh. [22:26:13] In there? [22:26:18] You don't read well. [22:26:24] [18:24] to the /top/ of your LocalSettings.php [22:26:28] Uhu. [22:26:32] Missed that. [22:26:37] Slow down a bit. :-) [22:26:40] Was focused on the next instructions. [22:30:39] Here's all content of LocalSettings.php with thoose changes, but without the root password this time: http://pastebin.com/uzGCn0Dz [22:30:50] Does it look correct? [22:31:45] you're missing a semi-colon after $wgShowExceptionDetails=true [22:32:29] OK. Changes saved. [22:32:48] Now I can't view it internally. [22:32:53] I just get a white page. [22:33:02] you need the line to be $wgShowExceptionDetails=true; [22:33:04] on the same line [22:33:43] I did add the semi-colon. [22:34:05] it can't be on a second line [22:34:12] Semicolon, actually. English is a cruel language. [22:34:12] what does your LocalSettings.php look like now? [22:34:25] OK. [22:35:44] 03(mod) Review and deploy FormatNum extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40422 +comment (10Dereckson) [22:36:50] Jasper_Deng: http://pastebin.com/9Uwu6ren [22:40:41] Krenair: any ideas? [22:41:55] What's in the PHP error log? [22:45:20] New patchset: Umherirrender; "SiteStats: use field names in select instead of *" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24673 [22:45:38] 03(mod) PageTriage: Uncaught TypeError in Chromium - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37009 summary (10Krinkle) [22:45:52] Krenair: For httpd? [22:46:08] welp, hooray for git-review [22:46:16] "UnicodeEncodeError: 'charmap' codec can't encode characters in position 1180-1182: character maps to " what i tyr to use it. [22:46:20] when i try* [22:46:41] Something like /var/log/apache2/error.log [22:47:00] on ubuntu. not sure about mageia [22:47:15] MatmaRex, when you try what command exactly? [22:47:17] Krenair: http://pastebin.com/b5wczfEp [22:47:28] For httpd. [22:47:32] Krenair: `git review`. [22:47:41] It's called httpd in Mageia. [22:48:08] although i might have borked my repo by a careless interactive rebase [22:48:13] MatmaRex: this is a common Pytjon error [22:48:20] still, that shouldnt happen [22:48:46] I mainly would like to correct your "hooray for git-review" in a "horray for Python characters handling" [22:49:14] It's very annoying to have this kind of issues with virtually every Python script. [22:50:02] New patchset: Matmarex; "(bug 457) (DRAFT) do not use header tags in Vector/Monobook menus" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24674 [22:50:08] alright, i fixed it. [22:50:14] As a French user, I've several files mixing UTF-8 and ISO-8559-1 encoding, Unicode Python parsing refuse to process these files :/ [22:50:23] apparently gerrit doesn't like rebases, except when it does. [22:50:38] What did you change? [22:50:42] Dereckson: try Ruby's encoding behavior [22:50:52] you'll be wanting to come back to Python in no time [22:51:16] Krenair: `git checkout master`, `git reset --hard ` and `git pull` [22:51:35] days-ago = before my unfortunate `git rebase -i` [22:51:39] I'm happy with TCL one. [22:51:49] Umeaboy, can you find your PHP error logs? [22:56:26] 03(NEW) Remove mediawiki.legacy.mwsuggest from core - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40448 blocker; MediaWiki: JavaScript; (krinklemail) [22:57:49] 03(ASSIGNED) Remove mediawiki.legacy.mwsuggest from core - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40448 (10Krinkle) [22:58:36] 03(mod) Clean up use of header tags in MonoBook & Vector skin UI elements - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/457 +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [23:00:24] New patchset: Umherirrender; "Drop unused database field ss_admins" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24675 [23:03:45] 03(WONTFIX) Do not output empty portlets - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24500 +comment (10Daniel Friesen) [23:03:51] 03(mod) Clean up use of header tags in MonoBook & Vector skin UI elements - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/457 (10Daniel Friesen) [23:05:34] New patchset: Umherirrender; "Drop unused database field ss_admins" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24675 [23:06:54] 03(mod) Do not output empty portlets - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24500 +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [23:07:24] what is Daniel's IRC nick? is he here? [23:07:42] ... [23:08:45] Dantman: is that you? are are you just dotting for no reason? :) [23:09:40] (there are multiple Daniels committing to MediaWiki...) [23:10:53] DanielFriesen: i'd appreciate a response to my comment :) [23:11:04] Krenair: "Apache will store the php error, but you have to tell php to emit them in /etc/php.ini, like: log_errors = On" and "You can tell php to store the errors in a different file using: error_log = "/path/to/errors.log" , but the directory has to be writable by apache." [23:11:34] * DanielFriesen doesn't like making long straightforward answers to pointless questions [23:12:33] ... [23:12:42] i believe i do have a point [23:12:44] ... [23:13:02] some menus are not outputted when empty, and some are outputted when empty. this makes no sense to me. [23:13:15] since you WONTIFXed the bug again, i suppose you can explain this. [23:14:44] output* [23:14:57] DanielFriesen: ^ [23:28:47] 03(mod) Do not output empty portlets - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24500 +comment (10Daniel Friesen) [23:34:57] 03(mod) Clean up use of header tags in MonoBook & Vector skin UI elements - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/457 (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [23:48:25] 03(FIXED) Please fix the transwiki import source for ltwiki on betawikiversity - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40163 +comment (10eikes) [23:55:17] New patchset: Tim Landscheidt; "Do not flip partial keys in CSSJanus." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24676 [23:57:03] DanielFriesen: How many points can one make before it becomes straightforwards and pointless? [23:57:06] I'd say that's impossible [23:57:13] as .. is not pointless [23:57:19] its quite pointfull I'd say :P [23:57:59] 03(mod) Provide CSS class to define horizontal lists - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40062 (10mybugs.mail) [23:58:10] ;) different case if something tries to make a point but that point is negated by some rationale...f [23:58:18] 1-1 is still 0 [23:58:42] haha [23:58:46] gotcha, righ on