[07:33:39] !ping [07:33:39] wm-bot: poke [07:33:39] Hi petan, there is some error, I am a stupid bot and I am not intelligent enough to hold a conversation with you :-) [07:33:40] Pong. [07:36:09] 03(mod) filebackend tests should use their own $wgFilebackends configuration - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40491 normal->15enhancement; summary; +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [07:38:25] 03(mod) Html tests depends on $wgWellFormedXml = true - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40490 normal->15enhancement; summary; +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [07:39:15] 03(mod) LinksUpdateTest::testUpdate_categorylinks fails - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40489 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [07:40:27] 03(mod) MWNamespaceTest::testGetContentNamespaces depends on default $wgContentNamespaces - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40488 normal->15enhancement; summary; +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [07:41:46] 03(mod) Xml tests depends on $wgWellFormedXml = true - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40487 normal->15enhancement; summary; +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [07:42:02] 03(mod) Html tests depends on $wgWellFormedXml = true - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40490 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [07:54:19] New review: Hashar; "Thanks Daniel!" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24798 [07:54:59] 03(FIXED) Extension:Collection should copy the book title automatically to the file name when exporting a book to PDF - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30552 +comment (10Ralf Schmitt) [08:34:44] 03(mod) Limit on number of piped values in API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39936 +comment (10Daniel Kinzler) [08:36:19] 14(INVALID) Collection don't print my template - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30933 (10Ralf Schmitt) [08:43:20] New patchset: MathiasLidal; "Fix typo in variable name ($args, should be $argv)" [mediawiki/extensions/SmoothGallery] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24979 [08:47:09] 03(mod) Pdf export doesn't support {{formatnum:}} - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30634 +comment (10Ralf Schmitt) [08:51:37] 03(mod) Limit on number of piped values in API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39936 (10jeblad) [09:00:24] 03(mod) wfTimestamp is not deprecated - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40475 (10jeblad) [09:05:40] 03(FIXED) Handle expired links more gracefully - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22885 +comment (10Ralf Schmitt) [09:09:24] New review: Raimond Spekking; "Note about message doc" [mediawiki/extensions/PostEdit] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24876 [09:21:07] New patchset: Umherirrender; "Add warning for unused params inside api" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24981 [09:24:34] New review: Umherirrender; "This is for discussion, maybe there is a problem, when setting a warning for the main module. Or the..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24981 [09:33:58] New patchset: Matthias Mullie; "remove unused hook" [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24982 [09:36:25] New patchset: Matthias Mullie; "use config var for comment max length" [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24394 [09:37:49] Change merged: Denny Vrandecic; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24810 [09:41:45] 03(mod) Pdf export doesn't support {{formatnum:}} - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30634 +comment (10reza1615) [09:44:51] New patchset: Ori.livneh; "I18n: message documentation, gender support" [mediawiki/extensions/PostEdit] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24983 [09:45:51] New patchset: Ori.livneh; "I18n: message documentation, gender support" [mediawiki/extensions/PostEdit] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24983 [09:48:54] 03(NEW) en.wikinews Liquid Threads implementation has weird layout issue - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40501 minor; Wikimedia: Site configuration; (tom) [09:51:24] 03(mod) Pdf export doesn't support {{formatnum:}} - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30634 +comment (10Ralf Schmitt) [10:03:16] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "(Bug 40230) Fix for permissions" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24984 [10:07:48] New patchset: Aude; "rename noexternalinterlang to noexternallanglinks, per bug 40387" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24985 [10:10:34] New patchset: Daniel Werner; "(Bug 40230) Fix for permissions" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24984 [10:10:34] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24948 [10:10:45] New review: John Erling Blad; "Merging this, even if I made the first patchset. Its more or less Daniles work now. (Right pretty th..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24559 [10:10:46] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24559 [10:11:03] Change merged: Daniel Werner; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24984 [10:11:23] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24794 [10:19:02] New review: Aude; "this change is okay. there's always room for further improvement later but good for now and nothing..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24884 [10:19:31] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24563 [10:19:32] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24885 [10:19:32] Change merged: Aude; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24884 [10:23:49] New review: Daniel Werner; "This requires a rebase, merge of some conflicts." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23534 [10:30:47] Change merged: Aude; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24887 [10:33:29] 03(mod) en.wikinews Liquid Threads implementation has weird layout issue - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40501 minor->normal; +comment (10Dereckson) [10:33:34] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Handle changes in the same way, not caring what output mode is set" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24986 [10:34:44] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Moved lib settings to hooks file for great consistency" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24988 [10:36:30] New patchset: Matthias Mullie; "cleanup config, remove unused vars" [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24989 [10:50:16] 03(mod) Set up and test the pretty URLs for Wikidata (5) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40389 (10silke.meyer) [10:51:04] New patchset: Matthias Mullie; "Rebuild checkuser actiontext & logging usernames (based on checkuser data)" [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24803 [10:51:06] New review: John Erling Blad; "Tested through a later patchset, should work now.." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24566 [10:51:06] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24567 [10:51:06] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24566 [10:54:06] New review: Raimond Spekking; "i18n review" [mediawiki/extensions/PostEdit] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24983 [10:57:08] 03(mod) Enable blacklist for FlaggedRevs on Arabic Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40499 +shell; +comment (10Dereckson) [11:03:06] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "(bug 40388) selenium tests for noexternallanglinks" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24990 [11:04:24] Change merged: Aude; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24988 [11:13:10] 03(mod) Enable blacklist for FlaggedRevs on Arabic Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40499 (10Dereckson) [11:13:10] 03(NEW) Restrict FlaggedRevs to a selected set of pages. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40502 enhancement; MediaWiki extensions: FlaggedRevs; (dereckson) [11:17:48] 03(mod) Enable blacklist for FlaggedRevs on Arabic Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40499 +comment (10Dereckson) [11:18:12] New review: John Erling Blad; "john@loke[Wikidata] ~/Workspace/core/tests/phpunit> php phpunit.php --verbose --group Wikibase --con..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: -1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24829 [11:19:29] New review: John Erling Blad; "After pull on both Wikibase and DataValues I still gets this." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: -1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24806 [11:21:37] 03(mod) Firefox treats the Komi-Permyak (koi) language as if it was Korean (ko) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40492 (10Dereckson) [11:38:15] 03(mod) Special:Create property (8) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40227 (10jeblad) [11:45:04] 03(NEW) Storing changes in a property updates an item - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40503 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; (jeblad) [11:56:04] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "This change needs I9598595d8f20efc66df0ed930f6f32a8b3625d1d" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24829 [11:57:01] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "John: did you see my comment about the dependency?" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24806 [12:00:08] 03(mod) Rename noexternalinterlang to noexternallanglinks (1) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40387 +comment (10Aude) [12:08:20] New review: Tobias Gritschacher; "please update documentation. see inline comment." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24985 [12:13:38] New patchset: Henning Snater; "sort method for jquery.tablesorter" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22562 [12:24:49] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Match naming changes in DataValues" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24882 [12:24:50] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Changed DataValue namespace to DataValues and implemented NumberValue" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24883 [12:26:45] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "(bug 40388) selenium tests for noexternallanglinks" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24990 [12:27:29] New patchset: Daniel Werner; "(Bug 40476) Add a type marker to the entity output by the API" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24808 [12:28:27] 03(mod) Noexternalinterlang behaving eratically (8) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40069 +comment (10Nikola Smolenski) [12:30:06] 14(WFM) Language links not showing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40427 +comment (10Nikola Smolenski) [12:31:07] New patchset: Aude; "rename noexternalinterlang to noexternallanglinks, per bug 40387" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24985 [12:36:02] New patchset: Aude; "rename noexternalinterlang to noexternallanglinks, per bug 40387" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24985 [12:42:55] New review: Daniel Werner; "This requires some changes on the frontend side. I am taking care of it." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24808 [12:43:18] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24800 [12:43:39] 03(NEW) can't upload scribus file (.sla) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40504 normal; MediaWiki: Uploading; (annaig.denis) [12:46:08] New patchset: Denny Vrandecic; "First version of a special page for setting a label." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24995 [12:48:25] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24801 [12:50:58] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24805 [12:51:43] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Improved clear method of store and clear term cache in entity save test to avoid failiure due to already present data" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24996 [12:54:49] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24807 [12:58:24] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24868 [13:01:35] 03(NEW) Can't send data (error sending emails) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40505 blocker; Wikimedia: Bugzilla; (nalaka.hewage) [13:05:44] New review: John Erling Blad; "john@loke[Wikidata] ~/Workspace/core/tests/phpunit> php phpunit.php --verbose --group DataValueExten..." [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master); V: -1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24883 [13:06:33] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "made data NS configuarable in client and removed hardcoded stuff" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24997 [13:07:31] 14(INVALID) Can't send data (error sending emails) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40505 +comment (10Dereckson) [13:11:30] New review: Aude; "this is a bit hacky and think we can do better" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24997 [13:13:21] 03(mod) Clean up deprecated functions in GlobalFunctions.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40485 +comment (10Dereckson) [13:18:54] 03(UNCONFIRMED) Enable Extension:Education Program on English Wikipedia (with new user rights configuration) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40477 +shellpolicy; +comment (10Dereckson) [13:19:04] New review: John Erling Blad; "Darn, it passes... ;p" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24883 [13:19:27] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24883 [13:24:43] New review: Yaron Koren; "Seems fine." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master); V: 0 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24880 [13:28:52] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24985 [13:30:42] New review: John Erling Blad; "Still fails after a rebase." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: -1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24829 [13:31:24] 03(mod) Tests introduced in tests/phpunit/includes/db/TestORMRowTest.php fail on PostgreSQL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37601 +comment (10Tim Landscheidt) [13:31:26] 03(mod) Review and deploy FormatNum extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40422 +comment (10Dereckson) [13:32:49] New review: John Erling Blad; "Seems like this should be DataValues\StringValue and not DataValue\StringValue.." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: -1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24829 [13:32:58] 03(NEW) Review and deploy Education Program extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40506 minor; Wikimedia: Extension setup; (dereckson) [13:32:58] 03(mod) Submitting or saving edits to a course description prompts a "leave page" warning - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39158 (10Dereckson) [13:32:58] 03(mod) Enable Extension:Education Program on English Wikipedia (with new user rights configuration) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40477 (10Dereckson) [13:33:47] 03(mod) Review and deploy Education Program extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40506 (10Dereckson) [13:33:47] 03(mod) OpenSearch is not using https in its content even it's being accessed via https - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31325 (10Dereckson) [13:35:26] 03(mod) Review and deploy Education Program extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40506 +comment (10Dereckson) [13:35:26] 03(mod) Extensions awaiting code review to be deployed on Wikimedia wikis (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31235 (10Dereckson) [13:35:29] 03(mod) OpenSearch is not using https in its content even it's being accessed via https - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31325 (10Dereckson) [13:41:06] New review: Tobias Gritschacher; "Hackier than before?" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24997 [13:48:38] 03(mod) Enable Extension:Education Program on English Wikipedia (with new user rights configuration) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40477 +comment (10Sage Ross) [13:50:05] New review: John Erling Blad; "Disregarding the failing tests as this works in a later patchset." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24829 [13:50:07] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Added testLabelUniquenessRestriction test" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25000 [13:50:12] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24882 [13:50:13] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24829 [13:52:23] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24806 [13:54:33] 03(mod) adding automatically the sub-pages as new watchlist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40469 +comment (10Dereckson) [13:57:21] 03(mod) Add Smart App Banners for iOS6 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40466 +comment (10Dereckson) [13:58:54] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24543 [13:59:31] does anyone have a handy tool to grep text in xml dump? [14:00:39] New review: Tobias Gritschacher; "tests are working, approved by aude." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24990 [14:00:39] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24990 [14:00:44] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24545 [14:11:47] New review: John Erling Blad; "The code passes with no problems on other parts of the codex, but it will probably have some issues ..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 1 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24995 [14:12:29] New review: John Erling Blad; "And for the record, it needs a rebase to pass." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 1 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24995 [14:14:47] New patchset: Aude; "add @group WikibaseSnak to SnakListTest" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25004 [14:16:15] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "splitted off uls, aliases & sitelinks from item pageobject" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25005 [14:17:45] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25004 [14:19:07] I'm working for a client whose wiki has been completely flooded with spam, to the point where the database exceeded the size quota set by the host. Pretty much everything is spam except a handful of articles. Is there an easy way to remove everything except the list of articles I specify? [14:19:49] New patchset: Denny Vrandecic; "New function getFromTerm that searches over both aliases and labels." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25006 [14:20:37] 03(mod) adding automatically the sub-pages as new watchlist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40469 +comment (10reza1615) [14:22:21] New review: John Erling Blad; "Rebase, merge conflicts" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24996 [14:22:56] New patchset: Daniel Werner; "(Bug 40476) Add a type marker to the entity output by the API" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24808 [14:24:08] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Added testLabelUniquenessRestriction test" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25000 [14:24:08] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Improved clear method of store and clear term cache in entity save test to avoid failiure due to already present data" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24996 [14:33:48] New patchset: Daniel Werner; "added entity::getPrefixedId()" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25008 [14:34:05] 03(mod) Review and deploy FormatNum extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40422 +comment (10reza1615) [14:34:06] New patchset: Eranroz; "Namespace selection option in Special:CategoryTree This patch adds namespace selection interface in Special:CategoryTree. Without this patch, this useful option is allowed only through URL manipulation." [mediawiki/extensions/CategoryTree] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25009 [14:34:22] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "This is the kind of thing you really want to write a test for in advance - would likely have caught ..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25006 [14:36:39] New patchset: Daniel Friesen; "Add .gitreview for this repo." [mediawiki/skins/erudite] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25012 [14:36:39] New patchset: Daniel Friesen; "Fix the paths used by the wiki." [mediawiki/skins/erudite] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25013 [14:36:40] New patchset: Daniel Friesen; "Fix authorship and description." [mediawiki/skins/erudite] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25014 [14:36:40] New patchset: Daniel Friesen; "Fix ie fixes." [mediawiki/skins/erudite] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25015 [14:36:40] New patchset: Daniel Friesen; "Fix sitename and link path." [mediawiki/skins/erudite] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25016 [14:36:40] New patchset: Daniel Friesen; "Never use ?> at the end of the file." [mediawiki/skins/erudite] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25017 [14:37:37] 03(mod) Add Smart App Banners for iOS6 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40466 +comment (10Daniel Friesen) [14:38:47] New patchset: Aude; "removed hardcoded "Data:" and "Q" in client" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24997 [14:39:24] Does jenkins automatically run for extensions? [14:39:26] 03(mod) Pdf export doesn't support {{formatnum:}} - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30634 +comment (10reza1615) [14:39:40] New review: Aude; "switched this back to using Special:ItemByTitle which should be more reliable and not depend on know..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24997 [14:39:49] Change merged: Daniel Friesen; [mediawiki/skins/erudite] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25012 [14:40:35] Change merged: Daniel Friesen; [mediawiki/skins/erudite] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25013 [14:40:48] Change merged: Daniel Friesen; [mediawiki/skins/erudite] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25014 [14:40:56] New patchset: Eranroz; "Namespace selection option in Special:CategoryTree" [mediawiki/extensions/CategoryTree] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25009 [14:41:03] Change merged: Daniel Friesen; [mediawiki/skins/erudite] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25015 [14:41:17] Change merged: Daniel Friesen; [mediawiki/skins/erudite] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25016 [14:41:30] Change merged: Daniel Friesen; [mediawiki/skins/erudite] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25017 [14:42:55] 03(mod) many api request not sucessful - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40428 (10Sumana Harihareswara) [14:43:20] New patchset: Daniel Werner; "(Bug 40476) Add a type marker to the entity output by the API" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24808 [14:43:44] Hi folks. I'm having a bit of an issue with a mediawiki my group is trying to set up. We are working on an academic project and are using the wiki format for all the documentation and technical aspects of our project. We are unable to edit our wiki when viewing it through a masked redirect, is there a way to fix this? For example, the wiki is found at general-projects.org/wiki but we will want people to view the site at wiki.spec [14:44:49] New patchset: Mwjames; "Update jStorage from upstream v0.1.7 to v0.3.0" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25018 [14:44:50] New patchset: Mwjames; "SRF gallery avoid empty place holder" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24773 [14:44:53] wiki.specific_project.org acts as a masked redirect back to general-projects.org/wiki. but we cannot seem to edit pages through this. Is this normal? [14:45:54] New patchset: Mwjames; "SRF gallery avoid empty place holder" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24773 [14:46:04] adjablon: is the wiki the same for both urls or is w.sp.o specific to your project? [14:46:33] New review: Mwjames; "Just a rebase" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master); V: 1 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24773 [14:47:07] New patchset: Mwjames; "Update jStorage from upstream v0.1.7 to v0.3.0" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25018 [14:48:15] 03(NEW) Mobile bugs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40507 normal; MediaWiki extensions: PageTriage; (okeyes) [14:48:20] 03(mod) Mobile bugs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40507 (10Oliver Keyes) [14:48:55] Gah... *facepalm* [14:49:15] Chrome's dev tools support drag and drop relocation of dom nodes [14:49:40] ...I could have used that all these times instead of screwing around with C&P html [14:54:06] 03(mod) Review and deploy FormatNum extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40422 +i18n (10Sumana Harihareswara) [14:56:05] New patchset: Mwjames; "SRF dygraphs add ability to retrieve data from a wikipage using action=raw" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24524 [14:56:59] The wiki is the same for both urls. AFAIK we are doing this redirect simply so that the names of everything matches. The wiki is tied to the domain for general overview stuff, but we want everything to looks consistent for our users which is why we are redirecting using wiki.specific_project.org [14:57:14] New patchset: Henning Snater; "putting disable/enable functionality into a separate extension" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24134 [14:59:15] there is a specific_project.org domain as well, but I believe that came after we had created the wiki which is why things are kind of convoluted right now. [15:00:58] New review: Mwjames; "Again this is just a rebase due to some changes message changes" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master); V: 1 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24524 [15:01:48] New patchset: Denny Vrandecic; "First version of a special page for setting a label." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24995 [15:03:07] 03(mod) many api request not sucessful - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40428 +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [15:03:38] 03(mod) many API requests failing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40428 +ops; summary (10Sumana Harihareswara) [15:03:58] everything is being done through a godaddy shared windows host, I don't know if that makes a difference or not [15:04:06] New review: Mwjames; "This should work without an extra rebase" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master); V: 1 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24114 [15:05:41] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "new pageobjects for create entity" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25020 [15:07:02] New patchset: Daniel Friesen; "Fix jump links." [mediawiki/skins/erudite] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25021 [15:07:19] Change merged: Daniel Friesen; [mediawiki/skins/erudite] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25021 [15:14:09] New review: Matmarex; "Some nitpicking." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22562 [15:15:33] 03(mod) many API requests failing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40428 +comment (10Damian Z) [15:17:42] New review: Aude; "spaces is not a problem here and should be handled correctly in Special:ItemByTitle. " [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24997 [15:21:30] !b 40506 [15:21:30] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40506 [15:23:10] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "removed hardcoded "Data:" and "Q" in client" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24997 [15:24:42] 03(mod) many API requests failing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40428 +comment (10merl) [15:26:00] 03(mod) many API requests failing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40428 +comment (10merl) [15:27:36] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "removed hardcoded "Data:" and "Q" in client" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24997 [15:28:20] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24997 [15:34:49] My most recent backup is significantly smaller than the previous :/ [15:35:00] Uncompressed [15:36:24] Previous is 22.9MB, the most recent is 16.3MB [15:37:08] Both are exported from phpmyadmin [15:37:43] New patchset: Daniel Friesen; "Fix search." [mediawiki/skins/erudite] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25022 [15:37:43] New patchset: Daniel Friesen; "Html concatenation is evil." [mediawiki/skins/erudite] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25023 [15:37:44] New patchset: Daniel Friesen; "dataAfterContent does not need a wrapper." [mediawiki/skins/erudite] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25024 [15:37:44] New patchset: Daniel Friesen; "Don't play with overflow like this. It causes the content actions to disappear in some situations." [mediawiki/skins/erudite] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25025 [15:38:26] Change merged: Daniel Friesen; [mediawiki/skins/erudite] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25022 [15:38:43] Change merged: Daniel Friesen; [mediawiki/skins/erudite] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25023 [15:38:54] Change merged: Daniel Friesen; [mediawiki/skins/erudite] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25024 [15:39:10] Change merged: Daniel Friesen; [mediawiki/skins/erudite] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25025 [15:39:36] New patchset: Aude; "handle encoded page titles" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25026 [15:52:09] <[knight01]> heya [15:52:24] <[knight01]> if i wanted the same content but organized a variety of ways, what's an easy structure to accomplish this [15:52:51] <[knight01]> soooo f.i., i have a "by language," "by locale", "by category" [15:53:05] <[knight01]> should i repeat the content over and over or is there a way to reuse content? [15:53:12] <[knight01]> (hope that makes sense) [15:56:24] Not really. There is a way to make sortable tables, which can sort the content of a table by different columns. Is that what you meant [knight01]? [15:57:02] <[knight01]> aye i think so [15:57:09] <[knight01]> but it's not ideal for the type of presentation i'm going for [15:57:16] <[knight01]> i think it's a by-hand job, thnx tho [15:57:49] yw. [15:59:26] 03(mod) Enable Extension:Education Program on English Wikipedia (with new user rights configuration) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40477 +comment (10Jeroen De Dauw) [16:00:53] If you wanted to go overboard, there are extensions like ExternalData or SemanticMediaWiki which you could manipulate for your own purposes [16:01:26] But that might be a bit too much setup if you're just doing this once. [16:01:58] <[knight01]> aye [16:02:04] <[knight01]> i set up InfoBox which was enough :P [16:02:13] <[knight01]> it has helped tremendously for my organization tho [16:03:14] Also, would this be the right place to report stuff that's broken with MW1.20wmfXX releases, or would #wikimedia-dev be a more suitable place for that? [16:04:20] here is good, but filing a bug simultaneously is also good, K__ [16:04:32] Ah, alright. [16:04:39] Nothing much, just a little oddity I noticed when upgrading a site from 1.19.1 to 1.20wmf11. [16:05:37] 03(mod) Enable Extension:Education Program on English Wikipedia (with new user rights configuration) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40477 +comment (10Sage Ross) [16:06:30] New review: Matmarex; "A typo I caught scanning the code." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24681 [16:07:16] * K__ searches the bugzilla list for wgAutopromote and autoconfirm, finds nothing duplicated [16:08:03] Somewhere along the line between 1.19.1 and 1.20wmf11, it seems the default value for $wgAutopromote got wiped. [16:08:09] :/ [16:08:17] At least, from what I could tell. [16:08:23] Please do report that and tell us more -- and cc me (sumanah at wikimedia) [16:08:46] Autoconfirm wasn't working until I manually set $wgAutopromote to the value provided in the documentation [16:08:49] k [16:13:12] New patchset: Daniel Werner; "added entity::getPrefixedId()" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25008 [16:14:34] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "handle encoded page titles" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25026 [16:15:37] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "handle encoded page titles" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25026 [16:16:06] New patchset: Denny Vrandecic; "Prefix search on labels" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25028 [16:18:09] ^demon: On a scale of 1 to "it's already been written and included in a release candidate", how far away is a one-step button for publishing inline comment drafts? [16:18:21] (in Gerrit) [16:19:04] <^demon> I don't know of anyone who's done work on that. [16:19:13] Hm. Noted [16:19:33] 03(NEW) $wgAutopromote default value wiped - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40508 normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (d.keith.d) [16:21:12] 03(mod) Corrected logo for Sanskrit Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40222 (10hemantbugzilla) [16:24:07] how can I remove a dependency from a patch set in Gerrit and rebase it to master? [16:24:39] DanielW_WMDE: git review -d N, git rebase master, pray [16:25:09] MatmaRex: not really [16:25:21] after this fails, i suggest checking out master and doing some cherry-pick-ing [16:25:24] "pray" - the last step in any moderately complex git operation [16:25:29] why not really? [16:25:35] K__: s/git/gerrit/ [16:25:58] MatmaRex: it just says "Current branch review/john_erling_blad/bug/40476 is up to date." then [16:26:20] DanielW_WMDE: point me to the commit and let me try [16:26:21] while in fact it depends on some other patch set which is not master [16:26:37] MatmaRex: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/24808/ [16:26:54] K__: git makes sense once you learn it (although it might suck for you at first), gerrit doesnt [16:27:05] Hah. [16:27:09] Point taken. [16:27:31] DanielW_WMDE: let me play with it [16:27:44] Okay I'm out. [16:27:48] MatmaRex: I also tried "git rebase 57856d317d8dc63032b5b6036a3a578363e86138 --onto 57856d317d8dc63032b5b6036a3a578363e86138" where 57856d317d8dc63032b5b6036a3a578363e86138 is some random previous, already merged patchset . It rebases successfully but then when doing git reveiw -R it complains [16:28:16] complains? it claims you have multiple commits to submit or something like that? [16:28:29] * marktraceur prays "Oh great linux, whose network drivers carry our patch to the server, may your hand be guided well and true. git, your memory never falters, let that not change now. diff, you give us great wisdom. Do not mislead us in this time of great import." [16:28:43] as far as my experience goes, these claims are bullshit and unless there are like 20 of them, you should just type "yes" and be done with it :/ [16:28:44] Ctrl-D. [16:28:59] New patchset: Daniel Friesen; "Fix content actions/navigation." [mediawiki/skins/erudite] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25029 [16:28:59] New patchset: Daniel Friesen; "Fix language_urls. (Use makeListItem to generate them)" [mediawiki/skins/erudite] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25030 [16:28:59] New patchset: Daniel Friesen; "Fix toolbox." [mediawiki/skins/erudite] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25031 [16:28:59] New patchset: Daniel Friesen; "Fix footerlinks." [mediawiki/skins/erudite] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25032 [16:29:00] New patchset: Daniel Friesen; "Kill the hentry." [mediawiki/skins/erudite] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25033 [16:29:00] New patchset: Daniel Friesen; "Fix personal tools." [mediawiki/skins/erudite] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25034 [16:29:02] (if there *are* like 20, than you probably messed up a rebase badly) [16:29:15] MatmaRex: error: failed to push some refs to 'ssh://danwe@gerrit.wikimedia.org:29418/mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase.git' [16:29:16] or, like Daniel above, you actually have many patches. :D [16:29:21] like Daniel Friesen* [16:29:32] like Dantman* [16:31:04] DanielW_WMDE: i take it you already tried the "Rebase" button in the interface? [16:31:28] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25008 [16:31:40] oh wait, there isn't one there? silly gerrit [16:32:01] That check is mostly just there so that when you screw up intending to submit one commit you don't go submitting a dozen patch sets you based a commit on and didn't realize were not part of the repo. [16:32:05] MatmaRex: I don't want to rebase against the original dependency, I want to resolve that dependency and set the master HEAD as base [16:32:32] Squash is probably the term you're looking for. [16:32:32] I think the button won't be able to do anything with the dependency set, perhaps creating a mess [16:32:56] Change merged: Daniel Friesen; [mediawiki/skins/erudite] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25029 [16:33:05] Change merged: Daniel Friesen; [mediawiki/skins/erudite] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25030 [16:33:24] Change merged: Daniel Friesen; [mediawiki/skins/erudite] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25031 [16:33:35] Change merged: Daniel Friesen; [mediawiki/skins/erudite] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25032 [16:33:45] DanielW_WMDE: i did `git review -d 24808` and `git rebase master` and it's rebasing now [16:33:45] Change merged: Daniel Friesen; [mediawiki/skins/erudite] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25033 [16:33:52] hooray, a conflict. [16:33:55] Change merged: Daniel Friesen; [mediawiki/skins/erudite] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25034 [16:34:35] Gerrit is the enemy of clean simple commits. [16:34:51] okay, that's a big conflict. [16:34:57] i'll try cherry-picking on master, then. [16:35:23] MatmaRex: ?? can you please git review that then? [16:36:49] DanielW_WMDE: what appears to have worked for me: git checkout master / git pull / git review -d 24808 / git checkout master / git cherry-pick [16:36:58] i can tyr to submit it if you want [16:37:17] please [16:37:47] I am not familiar with cherry-pick, perhaps I should look into it [16:37:51] New patchset: Aude; "handle encoded page titles" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25026 [16:38:35] it's basically a combo of git format-patch and git apply :) [16:38:40] New patchset: Matmarex; "(Bug 40476) Add a type marker to the entity output by the API" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24808 [16:39:09] New patchset: Henning Snater; "sort method for jquery.tablesorter" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22562 [16:39:26] New review: Matmarex; "PS5: rebased on master, dumping the dependency." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24808 [16:40:01] hm, sorry, i think i lost the topic branch now [16:40:38] you'd probably have to first git branch -D it, then re-branch from master, then do the cherry-pick on the new-old branch [16:40:41] but oh well [16:40:45] i forgot, sorry :) [16:41:00] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25026 [16:41:03] New patchset: Denny Vrandecic; "Put real values into the DataTypeSelector Widget in CreateProperty" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25035 [16:41:05] (does it matter for you guys? i can try to fix it) [16:41:13] DanielW_WMDE: ^ [16:43:15] little confused now. I think we can manage though. Seems like there is no too simple solution to this then [16:43:39] the amend workflow messes with usual git tools :/ [16:44:33] MatmaRex: so you would have a completely new patch set after doing what you wrote above, or still on top of the old one so we don't have to abandone it? [16:45:43] no, it's on top [16:45:49] MatmaRex: I just see you did it after all? Looking good thanks :) [16:45:49] all gerrit looks at is the Change-ID line [16:46:12] if it's not changed, it assumes it's the same changeset and a new patchset [16:46:24] (hooray for confusing nomenclature) [16:47:35] 03(NEW) Special:CreateItem doesn't handle site and page params - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40509 minor; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; (aude.wiki) [16:51:52] New review: Daniel Werner; "Looking good actually, the confusion about breaking frontend was not really justified, got some othe..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24808 [16:51:52] Change merged: Daniel Werner; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24808 [16:59:23] I'm trying to cleanup massive amounts of spam (client setup mediawiki themselves, didn't add any captcha etc). Is there an easy way to remove any edits / pages created by all users *except* the ones listed? (anonymous edits are fine, as the spam was all under throwaway accounts) [16:59:59] hi cmr [17:00:08] !antispam [17:00:08] For information about combating and handling spam in MediaWiki, see and . [17:00:12] !spam [17:00:12] For information about combating and handling spam in MediaWiki, see and . [17:00:29] cmr: see those pages, plus https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Secretaribot [17:02:04] Extension:SpamBlacklist would be a good starting point [17:02:43] death_to_wikispammers is a good method name haha [17:06:13] New patchset: Krinkle; "ResourceLoader: Refactor style loading" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25037 [17:09:21] 03(FIXED) Blank edit summaries when leaving certain tags - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40417 +comment (10Ryan Kaldari) [17:10:00] 03(mod) IE9: minimized Curation toolbar shows black square, not text "Curation" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40410 (10Ryan Kaldari) [17:10:01] death_to_wikispammers is handy, but I have about 90k pages to cleanup, months worth of spam. Anything by-hand is largely impractical. [17:10:32] (the client ignored the problem until the database exceeded the host's size quota, which is where I come into the story) [17:10:37] Ouch [17:10:38] haha [17:11:04] Give SpamBlacklist a shot? [17:11:49] Er, cleanup.php [17:12:19] Where can I find this cleanup.php? [17:13:01] 03(FIXED) {{sections}} needs a date parameter - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40401 +comment (10Ryan Kaldari) [17:13:09] It should be inside the SpamBlacklist extension folder [17:13:21] ah [17:13:49] I haven't used the extension personally, so that's about as far as I can personally help haha [17:14:12] New patchset: Krinkle; "ResourceLoader: Refactor style loading" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25037 [17:14:15] np, thanks [17:14:20] I would have a reason to use this, but the personal test wiki I had set up needs to be wiped/upgraded anyhow. [17:14:43] (I was a moron and forgot to put the anti-spam measures on, and surely enough, they came) [17:14:49] 03(mod) @import styles broken in modules that combine multiple stylesheets - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35562 +comment (10Krinkle) [17:15:01] New patchset: Liangent; "Partly disable title conversion if variant == main language code" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/19746 [17:15:14] K__: and cmr, the mediawiki-l lists might also be good for you to subscribe to, if you're not already [17:15:18] !lists | cmr [17:15:18] cmr: mediawiki-l and wikitech-l are the primary mailing lists for MediaWiki-related issues. See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mailing_lists for details. [17:15:26] 03(ASSIGNED) ResourceLoader should work around IE stylesheet limit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31676 +comment (10Krinkle) [17:15:27] 03(mod) ResourceLoader should not output an empty "@media print { }" block. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40498 +comment (10Krinkle) [17:15:33] 03(mod) ResourceLoader should not ignore media-type for urls in debug mode - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40500 +comment (10Krinkle) [17:15:41] Yeah, I saw it on the CC list when I was submitting a bug report [17:16:18] Hallo all, I've found something distressing and I'm wondering if Mediawiki has built in safeguards against SQL injection [17:16:23] New review: Krinkle; "* Minor clean up" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25037 [17:17:09] sumanah, handy, thanks [17:17:52] hi Ulfr [17:18:15] Ulfr: generally, yes - what's the issue? also mlitn is the person I was thinking of who works on AFTv5 in case you want to chat with him about that comment box [17:18:31] Ulfr: yes, but some extensions might not... [17:18:50] Well, this is what bothers me: http://www.wikidoc.org/index.php/Wegener%27s_granulomatosis_secondary_prevention [17:18:56] Ulfr: it's always possible you've found a bug, though, [17:19:04] Ulfr: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Security_checklist_for_developers and related security docs show how developers ought to write MediaWiki code to protect against SQL injection https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Database_access#Wrapper_functions [17:20:02] granted I'm using a marginally older version that current and I've cowed my users into not using apostrophes in page titles, but it looks like you could sql inject pretty easily with an imagined page title [17:20:19] sumanah: Thanks! I'd almost forgotten to ask about that. [17:22:34] Change merged: Santhosh; [mediawiki/extensions/Narayam] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24977 [17:24:34] How is it possible my most recent database backup is 6MB smaller than the previous one. Both are exported via phpmyadmin [17:25:09] New patchset: Krinkle; ".gitignore: Fix case of "Thumbs.db"" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25038 [17:25:30] Sove: less recent changes data? [17:25:38] Ulfr: csteipp is the head of software security for WMF and including MediaWiki in case you want to send him a note [17:25:51] or maybe you used different compression settings. [17:25:53] Yes, but must be a lot less [17:26:10] I'm assuming it's not an incremental backup? [17:26:17] sumanah: I'll do so once I work up the nerve to see if SQL injection actually works [17:26:29] Ulfr: nod [17:26:29] if it's just title parsing that gets unhappy I don't particularly care [17:26:45] regrettably my sql injection skills amount to DROP *.*; [17:27:16] Well that's a pretty dangerous test query haha [17:27:33] 03(FIXED) Corrected logo for Sanskrit Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40222 (10Santhosh Thottingal) [17:27:40] Ulfr, I tried some basic things and it didn't work [17:27:43] All I do in phpmyadmin is export -> advanced so I can set compression to tar.gz [17:27:48] (nothing destructive) [17:27:57] cmr: Phew, thanks! [17:28:37] Hi Ulfr: feel free to pm me. It looks like you're running a version of mediawiki with several known issues, but this certainly could be a new one. [17:28:52] Well, gonna try mysqldump to see if it's a phpmyadmin issue [17:30:17] erm, how might I do that? [17:30:21] Sove: gzip works in mysterious way, compression can depend on the order of the data (e.g. files in a .tar) [17:30:38] Ulfr, /query csteipp hello [17:30:44] Yes, but I uncompressed them [17:31:10] cheers cmr [17:31:17] np [17:31:54] then why don't you just compare a data? [17:32:17] unless the dumps are over a couple hundred MB, you could just load them into any semi-decent editor and run a visual diff [17:32:31] In notepad, yeah right [17:32:39] windows? i suggest notepad++ [17:32:40] Notepad++ my friend! [17:32:50] Has a built-in visual diff [17:32:59] And then, there's enough data to make me confused [17:33:04] i opened files over a gigabyte with it and it didn't crash (but did slow down) [17:33:15] (I forget if it's ACTUALLY built in or if it's a plugin included by default) [17:33:16] i suppose the dump is nicely formatted? [17:33:43] Well, unzipped at least [17:34:19] K__, SpamBlacklist is a bit slow, but it works really well. Thanks! [17:34:27] (well, the cleanup script is a bit slow) [17:34:30] well, if it's all in one line, visual diff won't help much :P [17:34:32] Hmm [17:34:44] lol [17:35:10] The database user pass contains a character that caused mysqldump to assume the rest of the pass to be the database name [17:35:49] Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24281 [17:35:50] cmr, don't thank me, I just noticed it on [[MediaWiki:Combating_spam]]! [17:36:10] I saw it too, but I hadn't realized it had a cleanup script [17:36:23] Meh [17:36:32] Just exluded the passwor from the command [17:36:36] Got the dump [17:37:23] apergos: around? [17:39:23] 03(mod) $wgAutopromote default value wiped in MW1.20wmf11 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40508 summary (10K) [17:39:24] New review: Matmarex; "I don't see any difference in the rendering after applying this CSS on the oldid you linked." [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24968 [17:40:16] Sove: plaintext passwords? burn! :D [17:40:35] Uhh? [17:41:00] I excluded the databse user pass from the mysqldump command [17:41:05] You know what's the best part about working with web APIs that don't use auth tokens? [17:41:07] It asks it later anyway [17:41:12] PLAINTEXT PASSWORDS, YAY [17:43:56] And yes, the user password of the wiki are just hashed [17:44:20] Can they even be encrypted [17:44:30] (don't mind me, I'm just going off on tangents) [17:45:10] Sove: ah, a hash as binary data? that mostly makes sense, then :) [17:45:33] I mean, the databse is just like it is when installed [17:45:42] Databses appear BLOB in phpmyadmin [17:45:51] Databses asdasd, user passwrods [17:46:58] 03(NEW) Create project for web tools - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40510 normal; Wikimedia Labs: General; (Platonides) [17:47:12] New patchset: Pgehres; "Adding data to the new fields recently added to contribution_tracking." [mediawiki/extensions/DonationInterface] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24956 [17:47:24] Well [17:47:39] databse dump is 9MB something [17:47:47] phpmyadmin export is 15MB [17:47:48] Now [17:48:41] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24880 [17:49:03] New patchset: Liangent; "Reset $mConvRuleTitle before every language conversion run" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25045 [17:50:51] New patchset: Pgehres; "Adding data to the new fields recently added to contribution_tracking." [mediawiki/extensions/DonationInterface] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24956 [17:51:16] New patchset: Liangent; "Partly disable title conversion if variant == main language code" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/19746 [17:52:22] Hmm [17:52:37] And the passwords are 0x438603206900629 type [17:53:12] But I don't know if that can be converted to the real password [17:55:27] sumanah: Thanks again for all your help! [17:57:42] 04(REOPENED) Limit on number of piped values in API should throw machine-readable warning - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39936 summary; +comment (10Bergi) [17:58:18] New patchset: Katie Horn; "Un-public'ing a function that doesn't live in a class." [wikimedia/fundraising/PaymentsListeners] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25046 [17:59:55] New review: Aaron Schulz; "Please see http://wikimedia.7.n6.nabble.com/Indexing-sha1-hashes-in-mysql-td4986038.html. A 10 char ..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17512 [18:00:07] New review: Adamw; "merging for now..." [wikimedia/fundraising/PaymentsListeners] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25046 [18:00:07] Change merged: Adamw; [wikimedia/fundraising/PaymentsListeners] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25046 [18:04:26] New patchset: Bsitu; "bug40268 Bad syntax when inserting PROD template" [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25047 [18:41:20] New patchset: Subramanya Sastry; "Added few template tests to test Parsoid template RT-ing." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25053 [18:41:26] Change merged: Kaldari; [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25052 [18:41:40] New patchset: Adamw; "(FR #620) Logger outputs to syslog" [wikimedia/fundraising/PaymentsListeners] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25054 [18:44:10] 03(mod) Mobile bugs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40507 +comment (10Ryan Kaldari) [18:48:02] 03(mod) Review and deploy Education Program extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40506 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [18:49:24] Change merged: Trevor Parscal; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24019 [18:49:41] 03(mod) Mobile bugs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40507 +comment (10Oliver Keyes) [18:53:54] New review: Trevor Parscal; "I'm still unconvinced that this is needed. Should we also somehow flip the shading of inset and outs..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23601 [18:54:22] New patchset: Daniel Friesen; "Update the url." [mediawiki/skins/erudite] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25055 [18:54:29] 03(mod) many API requests failing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40428 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [18:54:37] Change merged: Daniel Friesen; [mediawiki/skins/erudite] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25055 [18:54:59] 03(mod) many API requests failing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40428 (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [18:55:41] New review: GWicke; "Yay, more tests ;)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25053 [18:56:08] New patchset: Trevor Parscal; "(Bug 37999) ResourceLoader-ify Drafts extension" [mediawiki/extensions/Drafts] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22165 [18:57:24] New patchset: Denny Vrandecic; "Values for DataTypeSelector Widget in CreateProperty" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25035 [18:57:55] 03(NEW) new "new messages" does not shown on de.wp - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40512 major; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (umherirrender_de.wp) [18:58:31] Change merged: Trevor Parscal; [mediawiki/extensions/Drafts] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22165 [18:58:35] 03(mod) Enable Extension:Education Program on English Wikipedia (with new user rights configuration) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40477 -shellpolicy +shell; +comment (10Dereckson) [18:58:54] New review: Hoo man; "I like the idea to report this a lot, typos can create very hard to track down bugs, reporting that ..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24981 [19:00:12] 03(FIXED) "(last change)" in new messages box should link to combined diff of all changes since last visit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/12701 +comment (10Umherirrender) [19:00:35] 03(mod) $wgAutopromote default value wiped in MW1.20wmf11 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40508 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [19:00:44] 03(FIXED) Drafts needs ResourceLoader-ifying - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37999 -patch-in-gerrit (10Krinkle) [19:02:02] 03(mod) [Regression] $wgAutopromote default value gone - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40508 +code-update-regression; summary (10Krinkle) [19:02:09] 03(mod) Review and deploy Education Program extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40506 +comment (10Dereckson) [19:02:40] 03(FIXED) Create project for web tools - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40510 +comment (10Ryan Lane) [19:02:41] 03(FIXED) ResourceLoader-ify Central Notices Special BannerController - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34809 +comment (10Ryan Kaldari) [19:03:20] 03(mod) CentralNotice: ResourceLoader-ify Special:BannerController - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34809 summary (10Krinkle) [19:12:50] is anyone here using the FlaggedRevs extension on new Mediawiki versions ? [19:13:31] I am trying to figure out if Special:Stabilization has the same functionality as seen in the old screenshots [19:14:05] hecticsc: Does it not for you, or is this part of an evaluation of the extension? [19:15:20] it is missing in the current 1.18.3 installation tthat we use [19:15:45] hecticsc: "Current" is 1.19.2, but I see what you mean [19:16:00] Well, let's see [19:16:02] the "stable version selection" box seen on http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/File:Flaggedrevs_stabilisation.png [19:16:02] Oh [19:16:05] is just not there for me [19:17:32] New patchset: Umherirrender; "Add warning for unused params inside api" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24981 [19:17:33] hecticsc: Working on it [19:17:38] thx [19:17:44] I want to figure out if they took it out on purpose [19:18:20] hecticsc: yes, some people on wikitech-l are [19:18:33] New review: Umherirrender; "Patch Set 2: Reworded comment and warning message" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24981 [19:18:51] hecticsc: see Dovi Jacobs, wikitech-l from late August, Re: [Wikitech-l] Flagged Reviews default by quality levels [19:19:11] hecticsc: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2012-August/062803.html [19:19:22] hecticsc: so that's another person you could consult with :) [19:21:10] hecticsc: I don't see anything about taking it out....sorry, I may not be the best person to help [19:21:39] i am trying to read through all the replies and it does seem like the functionality changed - trying to understand what changed exactly [19:22:50] yes it seems like they removed the exact thing we were using :/ [19:22:52] quite unfortunate [19:22:58] maybe you guys can suggest a better way to do this [19:23:38] we have several pages transcluded to our main page, with news items and such. we want some people to be able to update these subpages - but not all people [19:24:03] right now the only option i can see is protecting it so it is editable by administrators only, which is not a really long list of people [19:28:29] Does deleting a page also remove everything about it from the database? [19:28:48] I doubt it, since you can restore the page. [19:29:18] New review: Kai Nissen; "From an accessibility point of view it's quite useful to have a certain site structure defined with ..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24674 [19:30:12] !groups | hecticsc [19:30:12] hecticsc: For information on customizing user access, see < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:User_rights >. For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access >. [19:30:16] :\ [19:30:31] Is there a way to remove everything about deleted pages from the database? [19:30:52] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "self-approving refactoring for dev branch" [mediawiki/core] (Wikidata); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24911 [19:30:53] Change merged: Daniel Kinzler; [mediawiki/core] (Wikidata) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24911 [19:30:54] a form of garbage collection, so to speak [19:31:41] cmr: so, burning the page down and salting the earth [19:31:53] marktraceur: thanks but afaik mediawiki's user groups are very basic compared to what flaggedrevs allows. We have thousands of contributors and hundreds of editors approving edits, so we needed something abit more advanced [19:32:06] *nod* I agree [19:32:07] cmr: are you aiming to do this for some kind of optimization, or for security/privacy reasons? [19:32:11] !lockdown | hecticsc [19:32:12] hecticsc: Lockdown is an extension for preventing read or write access by namespace and limiting access to special pages, see < http://mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Lockdown >. For per-page access protection, see !ppp. For general information on preventing access to your wiki, see !access. [19:32:22] Might be helpful [19:32:46] <^demon> cmr: deleteArchivedRevisions.php and deleteArchivedFiles.php in the maintenance directory are probably what you're looking for. [19:32:47] sumanah, All of the spam that I'm currently deleting pushed the database over the size quota for our hosting paackage [19:32:55] ahhhhh [19:33:17] Just deleting it from the database won't get you your space back, though [19:33:25] ie the physical space used on the disk won't decrease [19:33:58] I'm working from a local copy of the database, the stuff on the server has already been deleted. I'm going to reupload the cleaned copy of the data. [19:35:06] New review: Hoo man; "Only minor stuff :)" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24981 [19:35:36] but hte positive thing with a review system is that anyone can contribute but a few people can review this content before pushing it live. [19:35:59] the user level or lockdown will only allow certain users to edit all together [19:37:16] 03(mod) Highlight trash icon in Curation Toolbar when page is nominated for deletion - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40315 (10Ryan Kaldari) [19:41:07] Yay, spambgone :D [19:41:50] sumanah, K__, thanks for the help today [19:42:02] good luck cmr - glad we could help [19:45:20] Would it be easier to find away to remove the deleted content from the db, or just re-add the good content to a new one? (there's only ~60 pages of ham) [19:48:02] hey guys, a question: i often see extensions define a main translation message representing the canonical name of the extension / feature.. sometimes it's used to generate a title for a SpecialPage, but sometimes it doesn't seem to be called by anything. is it good practice to have this, like {{desc}}, or is it simply noise if it isn't used? [19:48:04] Muahahahaha!!! https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Skin:Vector [19:48:20] ashley, ^ [19:49:55] deleteOldRevisions.php didn't pick up everything [19:50:48] Dantman: yay! though 1) what is the correct name of the previous MW default skin, "MonoBook", "Monobook" or something totally else? (+references would be nice to have) and 2) why do so many people feel the need/urge to replace good ol' MB with something more bling bling? given that Vector is the new default skin, even on WMF wikis, the page should probably detail why it (supposedly) is so great... [19:51:08] It has gradients! [19:51:13] ashley, SkinMonoBook [19:51:35] K__, T_T except they aren't real gradients [19:51:38] thanks for the help marktraceur and sumanah! [19:51:39] True [19:51:42] Stupid old browsers [19:51:46] glad I could help, hecticsc [19:51:59] mmm, fair enough :) [19:53:42] Aha, I want to use nukePage.php [19:54:02] ashley, ^_^ that was actually relevant to a 'fun' bug to fix that existed until 1.17 [19:54:25] cmr, yeah, I'm not sure what the size of the wiki you're dealing with is. [19:54:45] K__, ~19k pages before, ~60 after ... it was 303MB of data on disk [19:54:54] I remember (parts of) that, Dantman...ain't nothin' like fixing an ancient bug ;) [19:54:55] If it was small (or at least much smaller than the volume of spam), it'd be quicker to just start fresh or whitelist the content from "good" users [19:55:01] hm [19:55:21] ashley, The autoloader skin case bug [19:57:11] * Dantman needs to write a script that'll clean out users who's only contributions were to deleted pages [19:57:23] New patchset: Katie Horn; "Changes to the universal failmail function (and the listeners) so we can use it on the cluster. This is just a quick round 1 of the refactoring there: Notes in the code." [wikimedia/fundraising/PaymentsListeners] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25168 [19:58:15] New patchset: Ori.livneh; "I18n: message documentation, gender support" [mediawiki/extensions/PostEdit] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24983 [20:01:20] 03(NEW) Blackberry 10 SDK emulator browser doesn't redirect to mobile site - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40513 normal; Wikimedia Mobile: devices; (brion) [20:18:56] New patchset: Demon; "Completely remove support for ancient skins" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25170 [20:20:03] \o/ [20:20:17] whoa. [20:21:54] Is monobook in there? [20:22:07] * Krenair ducks [20:25:03] this... seems like a bad idea to me :( [20:25:46] nooooo! my beloved cologne blue! [20:26:02] MatmaRex: we're going to use gerrit as the data presentation layer for all WMF projects [20:26:03] * aude thinks some people are going to be angry [20:26:11] articles will be patches, etc. [20:26:15] at least if it's not widely announced [20:26:22] people actually do use those skins. [20:26:29] yes, they do [20:26:36] classic at least [20:26:38] and not only the dinosaur people [20:26:59] * aude nods [20:27:56] New review: Demon; "Seems I missed some quickbar stuff. Still need to hit Language.php, DifferenceEngine.php (wtf?!?), a..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25170 [20:29:18] New patchset: Demon; "Completely remove support for ancient skins" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25170 [20:30:18] Change merged: Ori.livneh; [mediawiki/extensions/PostEdit] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24983 [20:30:52] New review: btongminh; "http://php.net/fnmatch ?" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24962 [20:31:18] New review: Aude; "I am not opposed to this change, but please make sure this gets announced widely to the community. ..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25170 [20:32:15] New review: Demon; ""For now this function is not available on non-POSIX compliant systems."" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24962 [20:32:50] New review: Matmarex; "Same as Aude, and I know such people personally. " [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25170 [20:34:59] New review: CSteipp; "One minor issue. Otherwise I think it looks good." [mediawiki/extensions/ConfirmEdit] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23934 [20:38:07] ^demon, does removing these skins have any real advantage? [20:38:36] <^demon> Close every bug relating to those bugs. Not having to worry about "am I breaking X ancient skin" every time you do something. [20:38:49] I'm not opposed to it, but I'm worried that it might unnecessarily annoy some people with no real benefit.. [20:38:51] <^demon> s/those bugs/those skins/ [20:39:02] <^demon> We've been talking about this off and on for years. [20:39:59] i did a quick survey on #wikipedia-pl and apparently at least three active editors use them [20:40:11] mind you, these are responses in 15 minutes [20:40:35] okay, there are too many old skins, but why kill them all? [20:41:38] because they are teh suck [20:41:55] (except Monobook, but I sure hope we don't consider it ancient yet...) [20:42:00] <^demon> Maintenance of the old skins is a pain in the rear. Every time we've tried to improve skinning, it's held back by the ancient skins. [20:42:25] leave one or two "plain" skins, then [20:42:37] maybe one with sidebar and one without [20:42:41] cologneblue is nice [20:43:07] <^demon> Removing the sidebar could easily be done with user css or a gadget. I'm not sure why it needs its own skin for that. [20:43:21] "plain" is not "without sidebar" [20:43:44] "plain" is "without most non-core styles" [20:44:08] 03(mod) Update jquery.tipsy plugin to latest version - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33562 (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [20:46:24] * saper is using nostalgia [20:46:53] New review: Bsitu; "Looks good to me except the localized error message, probably Reedy should confirm if this is okay" [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master); V: 0 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/21746 [20:48:41] ^demon: I am happy to fix bugs for skins but tell me who invented "SkinTemplateBuildNavUrlsNav_urlsAfterPermalink" hook first [20:49:12] Is there a way to list pages that are at least in two categories? Or is it only possible to list per category? [20:49:26] no [20:50:17] <^demon> saper: git blame :) [20:50:48] =\ [20:52:31] git is always to blame [20:52:34] New review: Reedy; "I've used:" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25170 [20:52:34] ;) [20:53:03] ^demon: not until you finally fix commit notes ;) [20:53:31] <^demon> I need to write a tool that figures it out again. [20:53:31] New review: Matmarex; "As for a more ocnstructive review, I suggesting cleaning up the situation, but leaving one or two of..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25170 [20:53:36] ^demon: ^ [20:53:43] <^demon> Couldn't use svn2git since we rewrote history [20:53:49] New patchset: Kaldari; "Fixing broken CurationToolbar in IE7 and IE8" [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25172 [20:53:58] 3c8c735c (�var Arnfj�r� Bjarmason 2005-11-26 22:20:48 +0000 [20:54:29] 03(mod) Next wmf deployment (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38865 (10Rob Lanphier) [20:54:53] Which is https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/11803 [20:55:10] saper, ^ [20:56:02] bah, i'm re-reading this review i left and oh god, grammar. :( [20:56:42] 03(mod) can't upload scribus file (.sla) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40504 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [20:57:42] ^demon, tool for figuring out what? [20:58:28] 03(mod) Enable blacklist for FlaggedRevs on Arabic Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40499 normal->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [20:59:10] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "File backend support for Captchas." [mediawiki/extensions/ConfirmEdit] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23934 [20:59:27] New review: Daniel Friesen; "@Matmarex" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25170 [20:59:55] New review: Aaron Schulz; "+1 on removing this garbage" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25170 [21:01:19] New review: Daniel Friesen; "Something I did awhile ago:" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25170 [21:03:21] how hard would it be to port skins from legacy to the new system? [21:03:24] (honest question) [21:03:49] Presumably it's not a simple task.. Otherwise someone would've done it by now ;) [21:04:34] i suppose keeping backwards compatibility is not an issue when the alternative is removal? [21:04:40] that would presumable make the task much easier... [21:04:48] presumably* [21:05:55] <^demon> Krenair: Relating git commit hashes to svn commit ids so I can add them to refs/notes/* [21:06:03] oh [21:06:09] I did that at one point [21:06:15] Not sure how accurate my db is though [21:06:32] it was based on timestamp iirc [21:10:17] MatmaRex: I don't think it is hard... somebody just has to do it [21:10:23] only the quickbar stuff might be hard [21:10:28] MatmaRex, SkinLegacy is actually a layer that makes legacy skins use SkinTemplate... they are actually already using the new system... and they are still in the way. They are basically so fundamentally out of date that the very way they work is incompatible with the way skins work now. [21:10:33] let's kill the quickbar. easier now? [21:10:44] probably [21:10:53] 03(NEW) Couldn't resolve host 'ms-fe.pmtpa.wmnet' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40514 normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (aschulz4587) [21:11:09] quickbar is just a sidebar that disappears in some cases? [21:11:17] Yes... diffs [21:11:29] Useful for users with narrow monitors [21:11:46] we should just have a gadget or a feature to hide the sidebar on any skin, eh [21:11:49] ...I was hoping to make an alternate vector that covered that use case [21:11:50] that would be easy to gadgetise... [21:12:01] No, then the site navigation disappears [21:12:03] (actualy there at least used to be such gadget on pl.wiki) [21:12:09] (for vector and monobook) [21:12:25] The proper case is a new skin that puts navigation, etc... at the top [21:12:26] you could show and hide the sidebar with a little button in the corner of the screen [21:12:55] ** If you start to actually examine their source you'll also find that the source for these legacy skins is crap anyways [21:13:00] New review: Aaron Schulz; "Can be merged when osc is done." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17512 [21:13:50] ** So you are left with one option... rewrite the skin completely, code and markup output... basically just keep the design... [21:14:03] i'd say that the source for non-legacy skins is kinda crap, too :/ [21:14:18] one must learn the degrees of crap [21:14:48] ** And then you actually look at the design on it's own... and realize, these skins have no value as a design either [21:14:59] ...so they're worthless [21:15:02] yep [21:15:12] they are used [21:15:13] send them back into the abyss [21:15:17] so apparently they are useful [21:16:36] assuming i'm left with upgrading or reimplementing one skin, cologneblue [21:16:44] that'd be just a lot of find-and-replace [21:16:53] elliminating method from SkinLegacy, one after one [21:16:54] no? [21:16:56] methods* [21:17:18] ^_^ You're in for hell if you think it's that easy [21:17:52] nah, that's easy, it's making the resulting code look bearable that is hard ;) [21:18:04] 03(mod) Enable local file upload for sysops on Gujarati Wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36345 +comment (10Dhaval) [21:18:47] MatmaRex, we never have the right kind of usage stats for any of this stuff... and our distributed community is really annoying when something they don't like happens... So we keep this stuff around even when it's not actually used... So no, they're not necessarily "apparently useful". [21:18:54] CologneBlue.php is 400 lines [21:18:58] most of it plain HTML [21:19:02] can't be that bad [21:19:25] Dantman: they are used by at least a few active editors and community members on pl.wiki [21:19:41] including saper here [21:19:46] MatmaRex, Oh... ;) on the topic of crap... CologneBlue's footer is a presentational table... [21:19:53] New review: btongminh; "Oh, you're right." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24962 [21:20:15] i'm honestly willing to at least try to meld cologneblue into an usable state [21:20:57] under the condition that if the code works, it'll be merged, without a big rewrite and applying new features; just what we have, but less legacy [21:20:57] :P [21:22:03] Dantman: as for the footer, it looks like a table with a single big cell; slap a
there and we're done, next issue please [21:22:21] ;) you really want the next issue [21:22:24] Start reading https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?p=mediawiki/core.git;a=blob;f=includes/SkinLegacy.php;h=7fb17a7dbe5a1a5637439e115b1ed13bb6f9a673;hb=HEAD [21:22:26] 03(NEW) [Regression] Error: 'Cannot delete page "Foo"', page content "1" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40515 normal; MediaWiki: File management; (krinklemail) [21:22:35] Particularly [21:22:49] 03(mod) [Regression] Error: 'Cannot delete page "Foo"', page content "1" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40515 normal->04BLOCKER (10Krinkle) [21:23:08] how much of this code is actually used in cologneblue? [21:23:29] we're assuming we're killing the rest, aren't we? [21:23:58] as i said, i'd like to at least try to rework it [21:24:29] before it gets killed [21:24:43] topLinks, extensionTabLinks, pageStats, bottomLinks, and pageTitleLinks [21:24:56] it's in version control, it's not liek it's gone for ever [21:25:24] i expect it's going to be hard to get this re-merged... [21:25:44] not to mention that it's going to take months [21:25:58] judging by how "quickly" my small changes are getting reviewed [21:26:27] Legacy skins basically re-implement almost the entire navigation that SkinTemplate is supposed to be in charge of and do it in a completely different way [21:27:09] i've just recently been playing with how vector does navigation, and it looks extremely hairy tbh [21:27:16] it can't be worse [21:27:23] well, not much worse, at least. [21:27:58] Btw, MatmaRex you're also going to have to figure out how to be compatible with extensions that add new tabs without using `wfRunHooks( 'SkinTemplateTabs', array( $this->getSkin(), &$tabs ) );` [21:28:25] New patchset: Denny Vrandecic; "Closed one XSS problem with labels from DB" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25180 [21:28:43] New patchset: Subramanya Sastry; "Added several template tests to stress Parsoid template RT-ing." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25053 [21:28:44] Dantman: uh, let me quote myself from earlier [21:28:46] "under the condition that if the code works, it'll be merged, without a big rewrite and applying new features; just what we have, but less legacy" [21:28:54] let's leave features for another commit, can we? [21:29:30] ...I'm talking about the very things that make these skins legacy [21:29:56] i suggest moving in small steps :/ [21:30:00] Even if you /fix/ the skins... if you don't eliminate these issues... they still are going to disappear [21:30:13] gerrit review pace is glacial [21:30:28] i can hadly imagine how long a 500-line diff is going to be pending [21:30:34] review, fix, wait two weeks, another review [21:30:44] 03(mod) [Regression] Error: 'Cannot delete page "Foo"', page content "1" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40515 (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [21:30:58] hardly* [21:31:55] (be right back, 10 minutes) [21:34:02] MatmaRex, Also if you want glacial pace... ;) the plan to eliminate these skins was made over a year and a half ago [21:34:18] The legacy ones that is [21:34:47] New review: Waldir; "Interesting. I did some cross-browser testing, and it seems the issue is specific to Firefox. The pr..." [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24968 [21:37:59] New review: Kaldari; "There's probably some obvious way of doing wildcard matching that would be better than this, but I h..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24962 [21:38:00] 03(mod) new "new messages" does not shown on de.wp - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40512 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [21:41:07] New patchset: Kaldari; "(bug 40410) fix display of minimized toolbar in all versions of Explorer" [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25181 [21:42:10] Change merged: GWicke; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25053 [21:42:14] 03(mod) Several columns are not updated to newest DB scheme - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33736 (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [21:43:14] 03(FIXED) IE9: minimized Curation toolbar shows black square, not text "Curation" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40410 +comment (10Ryan Kaldari) [21:44:14] (back) [21:44:17] 03(mod) Rename wfArrayToCGI to wfArrayToCgi for consistency with wfCgiToArray - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36537 (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [21:44:34] New review: Nikerabbit; "So where is the LQT update? It is horribly broken right now." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24019 [21:44:45] Dantman: where? it wasnt announced on the wikis, that's for sure [21:46:16] New review: Matmarex; "@Nikerabbit, swapping "mediawiki.legacy.preview" for "mediawiki.action.edit.preview" wherever it's u..." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24019 [21:46:27] New review: Krinkle; "Please file a bug with details." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24019 [21:46:39] Right [21:46:49] Krinkle: bug, really? [21:46:54] never mind [21:47:08] Well, you didn't provide any details so, yes, then a bug is perfectly normal [21:47:10] 03(mod) Do not show "template transcluded" and "categories" part when an old revision is being edited - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/25894 (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [21:47:12] http://dev.translatewiki.net/wiki/Support if you want to see it ourself [21:47:15] but now we know what ti is, we can fix it [21:47:23] yourself* [21:48:05] oh well, i can see that the "patch" removing old skins was already approved. [21:48:22] that would be it for discussion with, or even notification to, the users, i suppose :/ [21:48:23] 03(mod) Embed search-ltr.png/search-rtl.png into CSS - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34811 (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [21:49:59] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "Made stash cleaning script also remove the old thumbnails." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25184 [21:50:24] Dantman: i'd really appreciate some links to wherever these plans were made [21:50:43] Nikerabbit: ^ [21:50:46] (plans to remove skins) [21:51:16] since my opposition has been completely disregarded, i suppose there actually were some [21:51:41] MatmaRex: I haven't heard of any plans, just came out of sudden [21:51:55] MatmaRex: It's not been submitted [21:53:46] eh [21:54:25] and when i submit a little change to vector, all i hear is chants of "backwards compatibility" [21:54:31] * MatmaRex stops complaining [21:54:35] New patchset: Krinkle; "Clean up LiquidThreads.php; fix broken dependency" [mediawiki/extensions/LiquidThreads] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25185 [21:54:35] Nikerabbit: ^ [21:54:41] if there were no plans, then [21:54:51] can i at least get a week or so to try and fix up cologneblue? [21:55:28] Krinkle: thanks you! you are always so helpful (I mean it) [21:55:34] 03(mod) Embed search-ltr.png/search-rtl.png into CSS - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34811 (10Krinkle) [21:55:35] You're welcome. [21:56:08] $dir . '//i18n/Lqt.i18n.php'; [21:56:11] that's a typo? [21:57:05] '//api/ApiThreadAction.php'; [21:59:02] 03(mod) High OOM rate in refreshLinks2 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39493 +comment (10Aaron Schulz) [21:59:44] MatmaRex, https://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki?view=revision&revision=81507 [22:00:44] well that's totally completely public and transparent to everyone using those skins [22:01:15] also, that says nothing of plans to remove them [22:01:21] just that it can be done [22:01:33] which is nice, for sure [22:01:34] Nikerabbit: Hm.. [22:01:55] ;) you think I'd make code deletable without the intention to delete it? [22:02:01] Krinkle: already submitted new PS [22:02:34] really, i understand the motivation, and i agree with it [22:02:35] New patchset: Nikerabbit; "Clean up LiquidThreads.php; fix broken dependency" [mediawiki/extensions/LiquidThreads] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25185 [22:02:42] but the process i dont like at all [22:03:05] what process? [22:03:10] MatmaRex, btw on navigation... the new, new... skinning system I've been trying to build has new plans on how to deal with links: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Dantman/Skinning_system/Link_lists_rewrite [22:03:12] in particular, that if i hadn't seen this scrolling by on irc, i wouldnt even know about this happening until next deployment [22:03:22] New review: Krinkle; "Thx." [mediawiki/extensions/LiquidThreads] (master); V: 0 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25185 [22:03:24] MatmaRex: you can help, send email to wikitech(-ambassadors) and post to village pumps [22:03:32] and i subscribe to dev lists etc [22:03:38] Change merged: Nikerabbit; [mediawiki/extensions/LiquidThreads] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25185 [22:03:59] shouldnt maybe the people making the change post there? [22:04:05] preferebly *before* the change happens? [22:04:09] preferably* [22:04:27] i think that would be sensible [22:05:35] things always aren't sensible, but why wait for us to do something when you can do it yourself? [22:06:08] well, because i'm trying to prevent this, partially at least [22:06:23] New patchset: Adamw; "* provide gateway and class config overrides * serialize config as we log it" [wikimedia/fundraising/PaymentsListeners] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25187 [22:06:37] 6 "plain" skins are too much, i agree. but 1 or 2 would be just fine. [22:07:26] your chances would be very much higher if you gathered some vocal opposition from different wikis [22:08:09] the problem is, the people being the opposition dont necessarily speak english, or dont speak it well [22:08:24] you know it as an i18n dude [22:09:05] the devs here will just sympathize with you and say the maintenance cost for them is too high [22:10:12] if it was too high for those 19 months since Dantman's commit, it can wait for another week [22:10:14] as i said [22:10:16] repeatedly [22:10:23] i'm willing to work on cologneblue [22:10:27] and chick isnt legacy afaik [22:11:13] New patchset: Katie Horn; "CR-inspired modifications" [wikimedia/fundraising/PaymentsListeners] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25189 [22:11:19] and what are you suggesting i do, gather up random people from #wikipedia-XX and have them come here and shout at you in broken english? :/ [22:11:46] I doubt shouting helps [22:12:04] I suggest finding/creating a tracker bug and collecting arguments for/against the various skins [22:12:24] well, Nikerabbit, you just suggested a "vocal opposition" [22:12:31] +1 for Krinkle [22:12:32] you could post to village pump and wikitech to gather some help modernizing the skins you want [22:12:33] The most interesting and ultimately what matters is the why [22:12:34] Are there usage stats for the various skins available? [22:12:40] why do people want them, what is their reason. [22:12:45] Change abandoned: Katie Horn; "(no reason)" [wikimedia/fundraising/PaymentsListeners] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25189 [22:12:47] 03(mod) Enable local file upload for sysops on Gujarati Wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36345 -shellpolicy +shell; +comment (10Dereckson) [22:12:53] K__: none right now, i asked for them [22:12:54] K__: Yes, completely to the number [22:12:55] And I'm saying as someone who has actually examined the relevant code... CologneBlue is not something you can just fix as easily as you think it can... And I don't want removal of legacy skins held up because one person who hasn't actually tried dealing with this code thinks he can fix it. [22:13:00] MatmaRex: ? [22:13:12] Krinkle: first comment on https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/25170/ [22:13:13] They're publicly queriable on the toolserver [22:13:18] apparently my request was ignored, then [22:13:37] I can run a query right now, tell me which wiki and which skin, I can tell you how many users have it and optionally exclude users not active for X days. [22:13:37] Dantman: Is it really that time-sensitive? [22:14:15] Krinkle: i suggest every wiki ;) starting with the biggest ones [22:14:33] New review: Krinkle; "Create (or mention) a bug report where discussion can take place if needed." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25170 [22:14:50] New review: Nikerabbit; "Fixed by Krinkle in https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25185 Thanks!" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24019 [22:15:38] For a while I've wanted to create a tool that does a daily query on preferences on all wikis, and save them in a historic table so we can display global and per-wiki graphs [22:15:55] Dantman: you keep talking about legacy skins in the plural, i keep talking about a single one :/ [22:15:58] e.g. a graph with trending preferences or to see the history of an individual pref [22:16:01] i'm not expecting this to be trivial [22:16:19] but it has to be doable [22:16:31] you know what, I'm done for today. I will give my best shot at that tool right now. I need it anyway to replace my hacky way of tracking usages of my gadgets. [22:16:35] it's just that apparently no one of the devs cares about them in the slightest [22:16:48] oh this is going to be soo cool :P [22:18:28] New review: Aaron Schulz; "Not to found of the processedTitles var getting large, but OK I guess." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24285 [22:18:34] MatmaRex, ;) no-one cares because these skins were part of MediaWiki 1.1 [22:18:47] Change merged: Catrope; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24960 [22:18:57] is there any way to use 
 or  in a numbered list? I always want to do this and I can never figure out a good way to get it to work.
[22:19:06] 	 https://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/branches/REL1_1/phase3/stylesheets/cologneblue.css?revision=2168&view=markup
[22:19:50] 	 autojack: no, only inline elements can be used inside lists
[22:20:06] 	 you can use  and/or  for sure, but not 
[22:20:20] 	 hm, actually I tried  and that didn't work at all.
[22:20:22] 	 except if it is online 1 line (make sure not to have any line breaks)
[22:20:29] 	 autojack: proof it :)
[22:20:35] 	 I did ## a couple of lines of text
[22:20:38] * Dantman  goes shopping
[22:20:42] 	 and the nowiki was just ignored.
[22:20:50] 	 autojack: You do know what  is?
[22:20:53] 	 let me try 
[22:20:57] 	 Dantman: Is it really that time-sensitive?
[22:21:09] 	 It means it does not parse as wikitext, so what ## foo should display is "foo"
[22:21:20] 	 aha
[22:21:22] 	 hm.
[22:22:01] 	 what I'm trying to get, I guess, is the "code" style, but mixed with a numbered list.
[22:22:20] 	 autojack: use  then
[22:22:22] 	 I like 
 because it gives you the dashed box around it.
[22:22:32] 	 or, do you mean the syntax highlightning?
[22:22:35] 	  is causing the numbered list to break after that entry.
[22:22:38] 	 it starts over at 1.
[22:23:03] 	 you can't really use multiline content inside of list items
[22:23:14] 	 yeah. I guess it makes sense why.
[22:23:31] 	 it's not just a mediawiki limitation
[22:23:34] 	 it's a HTML limitation
[22:23:36] 	 marktraceur, Time-sensitive or not... Trying to salvage CologneBlue is practically a dead end... And I don't want to wait a long time for someone who thinks it's possible to finally give up trying to do it.
[22:23:38] 	 yeah. 
[22:24:00] 	 at best I think I can get the next numbered list to start at a specific number.
[22:24:15] 	 but then that obviously requires manual maintenance.
[22:24:21] 	 Dantman: how many more times do i need to state that i just want this weekend? eh
[22:24:27] 	 Dantman: What's the harm? There's a patch, I presume? If it sticks around, someone will come back to it
[22:24:30] 	 autojack: yeah, that wouldnt makes much sense :P
[22:24:42] 	 woudlnt make*
[22:25:07] 	 Dantman: And if it's possible to salvage, wouldn't we want to keep it?
[22:25:13] 	 I'm just trying to make a list of common log or code examples.
[22:25:25] 	 use a table?
[22:25:28] 	 looks better in monospaced font and so forth.
[22:25:32] 	 In terms of visual I like this one: https://toolserver.org/~krinkle/recentAnonymousActivity.php?wikidb=nlwiki_p&year=&month=7
[22:25:32] 	 hm
[22:25:41] 	 that's not a bad idea I suppose.
[22:25:50] 	 no real reason they need to be *numbered,* just set apart.
[22:25:50] 	 MatmaRex, HTML lists can have multiline content... it's not a HTML limitation... just a limitation of the #* syntax MW support
[22:26:33] 	 oh, whoops. yeah, sorry
[22:26:45] 	 it's too late
[22:26:52] 	 i'm off. good night everyone
[22:27:00] 	 MatmaRex, You might want to say that a little more publicly
[22:27:16] 	 don't merge anything weird while i'm away :)
[22:27:21] 	 Danny_B|backup: which that?
[22:27:24] 	 Dantman: ^
[22:27:30] 	 (sorry)
[22:27:43] 	 MatmaRex, the part about just the weekend
[22:27:51] 	 interesting
[22:28:04] 	 MatmaRex, cause I didn't see it till you just said it and the others on the changeset probably don't know either 
[22:28:13] 	 ## 
whatever
 does exactly what I want, but it only works right with one line of text.
[22:28:21] 	 >1 line screws up.
[22:28:26] 	 autojack, 
     
  1. 
[22:28:45] 	 ?
[22:29:04] * MaxSem  looks into maintenance/importImages.inc and dies
[22:29:31] 	 Ah, the #* limitation, those were fun.
[22:29:42] 	 autojack, ## is just a fancy syntax to build html tables for simple data... if you need something more complex you can write the 
       and 
    1.  html elements directly
[22:29:45] 	 New review: Matmarex; "As for further constructive review, I'm willing to try to poke at CologneBlue a little to make it le..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25170
[22:29:49] 	 03(mod) Romanian planet hasn't been updated since 2011/11/25 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39573  +comment (10Daniel Zahn)
[22:29:54] 	 Got reacquainted with them when I was porting a template to Lua.
[22:29:55] 	 ahh, right.
[22:29:58] 	 Dantman: i mentioned a week multiple times here
[22:30:00] 	 alright
[22:30:02] 	 i'm really off
[22:30:08] 	 03(FIXED) Romanian planet hasn't been updated since 2011/11/25 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39573  (10Daniel Zahn)
[22:30:47] 	 New patchset: Katie Horn; "Changes to the universal failmail function (and the listeners) so we can use it on the cluster. This is just a quick round 1 of the refactoring there: Notes in the code." [wikimedia/fundraising/PaymentsListeners] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25168
[22:30:48] 	 good night, and don't merge anything weird while i'm away :)
[22:32:03] * Dantman  really goes shopping now
[22:32:26] 	 New review: Nikerabbit; "What does this fix and how?" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25045
[22:33:32] 	 cool, I think I can work this out. thanks dudes :)
[22:34:10] 	 03(mod) Our *.wikimedia.org cert doesn't properly cover https://pa.us.wikimedia.org/ - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38763  +comment (10Daniel Zahn)
[22:45:21] 	 Change merged: Adamw; [wikimedia/fundraising/PaymentsListeners] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25168
[22:47:06] 	 New patchset: Adamw; "(FR #622) bare-bones adyen listener" [wikimedia/fundraising/PaymentsListeners] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25191
[22:52:21] 	 03(NEW) MediaWiki:Red-link-title broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40516 normal; MediaWiki: User interface; (stem)
[22:58:01] 	 03(mod) MediaWiki:Red-link-title broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40516  +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[23:03:16] 	 03(mod) MediaWiki:Red-link-title broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40516  +comment (10SpeedyGonsales)
[23:03:57] 	 New patchset: Bsitu; "change the logic for generating article snippet" [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25192
[23:05:24] 	 03(mod) Recent languages in languages settings - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39535  +comment (10Niklas Laxström)
[23:05:31] 	 03(mod) MediaWiki:Red-link-title broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40516  +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[23:06:55] 	 03(mod) localize buttons for Kyrgyz language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38401  +comment (10Niklas Laxström)
[23:11:30] 	 03(mod) MediaWiki:Red-link-title broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40516  +comment (10SpeedyGonsales)
[23:12:25] 	 03(mod) the first line of text does not appear - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36928  (10bsitu)
[23:14:36] 	 03(mod) MediaWiki:Red-link-title broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40516  +comment (10SpeedyGonsales)
[23:20:26] 	 Change merged: Bsitu; [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24965
[23:25:29] 	 hey, is there any alternative to the dumphtml extension that does not depend on the wiki for css/images/etc?
[23:25:36] 	 Change merged: Bsitu; [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25172
[23:26:27] 	 New patchset: Siebrand; "Remove strange assignment." [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25194
[23:30:26] 	 Change merged: Bsitu; [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25181
[23:33:50] 	 New review: Nikerabbit; "Dunno why I set -1. This does not fix bug 40490	though." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24212
[23:33:51] 	 Change merged: Nikerabbit; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24212
[23:35:01] 	 New review: Katie Horn; "Despite my disproportionate complaining about swapping the parameters 'round so log level no longer ..." [wikimedia/fundraising/PaymentsListeners] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25054
[23:35:32] 	 New review: Nikerabbit; "SPQRobin, could you rebase this change against master?" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11829
[23:37:15] 	 03(mod) Should flag articles with no references (or show the number of references if they exist) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39405  (10bsitu)
[23:38:03] 	 03(mod) Please update language families classification - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33115  +comment (10Niklas Laxström)
[23:38:23] 	 03(ASSIGNED) Enable local file upload for sysops on Gujarati Wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36345  +comment (10Dereckson)
[23:39:15] 	 03(mod) Create project for web tools - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40510  +comment (10Tim Landscheidt)
[23:40:42] 	 New patchset: Santhosh; "Internationalize Mediawiki ULS extension" [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24976
[23:41:26] 	 03(mod) Burmese language name is not shown in the interlanguage links list in IE - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28753  +comment (10Niklas Laxström)
[23:41:28] 	 New patchset: MaxSem; "WLM uploads fixing image" [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaMaintenance] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25198
[23:42:29] 	 New patchset: MaxSem; "WLM uploads fixing script" [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaMaintenance] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25198
[23:42:56] 	 03(mod) Allow for fallback languages in i18n map rendering - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/19891  +comment (10Niklas Laxström)
[23:44:47] 	 14(DUP) MediaWiki:Red-link-title broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40516  +comment (10Niklas Laxström)
[23:44:49] 	 03(mod) "Page does not exist" title cached in wrong language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32686  +comment (10Niklas Laxström)
[23:46:09] 	 New patchset: Katie Horn; "(FR #620) Logger outputs to syslog" [wikimedia/fundraising/PaymentsListeners] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25054
[23:49:54] 	 03(mod) [Planet] Unicode author names - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39724  +comment (10Daniel Zahn)
[23:55:41] 	 03(mod) filebackend tests should use their own $wgFilebackends configuration - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40491  +comment (10Niklas Laxström)