[00:00:02] Its mentions efUserNameBlacklist. [00:00:11] That's probably it then [00:00:25] There'll be a line somewhere like function efUserNameBlacklist($foo, $bar, &$baz) { or something [00:00:44] The error message should also mention which parameter was expecting a reference [00:01:07] I see function efUsernameBlacklistInvalidate( &$article ) [00:01:10] Right [00:01:12] That's easy then [00:01:15] Remove the & [00:01:17] :) [00:02:20] tommorris: Lol. irccloud.com/x-fapbbq [00:03:58] Didn't help, same error message. [00:05:18] Can I safely remove all occurrences of & ? There is another line with $title =& $article->mTitle; [00:05:30] No, you can't safely remove all of them [00:05:30] No [00:05:39] Is the error message still the same, or does it mention a different function now? [00:05:40] Hmmm. [00:05:57] Oh, awt [00:05:59] *wait [00:06:06] The one you fixed was efUsernameBlacklistInvalidate() [00:06:08] It mentions the same function and line [00:06:15] You didn't actually touch efUsernameBlacklist() [00:06:40] What you can safely do is remove the & for all $article parameters in function definitions [00:07:23] OK [00:08:02] New patchset: Reedy; "Followup to bug 39665 and I12da92da33527e414c9b125a50b82c9bdbb3ed99" [mediawiki/extensions/GeoData] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22939 [00:08:08] Reedy: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34939#c11 :-) [00:08:20] you shouldn't even be using UsernameBlacklist (AFAIK), but rather TitleBlacklist -- that extension is actually used and maintained [00:09:02] Found 3 of them [00:10:01] Brooke: Krinkle fixed it on the 12th [00:10:18] God bless him. [00:10:25] Someone should tell jdianni. [00:10:27] sp? [00:10:30] 03(mod) url parsing does not recognize mixed case protocols - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34939 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [00:11:23] jidanni [00:11:27] Reedy: Bless you. [00:11:51] RoanKattouw: It seems to work again, now. Thanks! [00:12:04] Reedy: Can I get you to fix up action=info? [00:12:54] 03(mod) "cols" preference is redundant and should be removed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24430 +comment (10MZMcBride) [00:13:27] Reedy: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/22547/ [00:13:36] Reedy: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/23381/ [00:13:37] :-) [00:14:34] New review: Reedy; "Probably should get this into 1.20" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22936 [00:14:51] New patchset: Reedy; "(bug 16362) Add action=info link to toolbox." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23381 [00:15:07] New review: Reedy; "Needs rebasing :(" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22547 [00:16:01] New review: Reedy; "Will test this tomorrow" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23381 [00:16:12] God bless you. [00:19:00] mmm [00:19:09] looks like it conflicts with security updates on it [00:19:28] Yeah, there was a security issue in action=info. [00:19:37] Revealing the latest editor or something, I think? [00:19:47] the third change is just git/diff being stupid [00:22:20] 03(mod) url parsing does not recognize mixed case protocols - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34939 (10jidanni) [00:23:25] Would anyone happen to have a good way of rapidly deleting a large amount of created users without spamming the changelog? [00:23:51] It comes up often enough that you'd think someone would've written a guide by now. [00:23:52] Ideally something that would require a truly minimal amount of keypresses per user, as I tend to get multiple spam user creations per day [00:24:11] Usually better to prevent the account creations. [00:24:13] !spam [00:24:13] For information about combating and handling spam in MediaWiki, see and . [00:24:17] Have you read those pages? [00:24:37] Spamming the changelog can be mititgated by using a bot flag. [00:24:47] But not making noise is preferable to making slightly quieter noise. [00:27:14] Change merged: GWicke; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25719 [00:28:55] Linker::userLink( $firstRev->getUser( Revision::FOR_THIS_USER, $user ), $firstRev->getUserText( Revision::FOR_THIS_USER, $user ) ) [00:28:55] wtf [00:29:11] 03(mod) Add editbugs user right to legitimate Bugzilla accounts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40497 +comment (10MZMcBride) [00:30:11] New patchset: Reedy; "A few action=info bugfixes and enhancements." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22547 [00:33:01] New patchset: CSteipp; "Fix infinite redirect with $wgSecureLogin" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25721 [00:34:07] New review: Catrope; "Code looks good, but you should document this behavior in wfExpandUrl()'s documentation comment" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25721 [00:34:31] And unit tests? [00:35:52] Ah, yes [00:35:54] Good point [00:36:06] New patchset: Reedy; "A few action=info bugfixes and enhancements." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22547 [00:36:20] New review: Catrope; "And, as pointed out by MZMcBride on IRC, you should add this case to the unit tests as well." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25721 [00:36:24] Merge https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/25716/ before touching unit tests ;) [00:36:36] I'm surprised the tests still pass with that change [00:36:48] I suppose that's because $wgSecureLogin is false for the tests [00:36:51] Is there an easy way to see what changed in a paritcular patch set? [00:37:00] particular [00:37:05] change the old version history above [00:37:08] between that patch set and the previous one? [00:37:26] Yeah, there's a dropdown that you can set to Patch set N, and then all diffs will be relative to that patch set [00:37:52] Oh, the "Old Version History" dropdown. [00:38:47] Change merged: Catrope; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25716 [00:38:48] Reedy: You rremoved the latest editor code? [00:39:02] because the sql queries aren't needed [00:39:32] Hm. [00:39:36] Linker::userLink( $firstRev->getUser( Revision::FOR_THIS_USER, $user ), $firstRev->getUserText( Revision::FOR_THIS_USER, $user ) ) [00:39:54] 03(mod) Kill $wgMFRemovableClasses in MobileFrontend extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40343 +comment (10Jon) [00:39:55] csteipp: Adding unit tests for that change is a bit tricky, though, you'd need to tweak the existing unit tests quite a bit, and you'd need to rebase your commit onto master because I just merged a commit by Reedy that made a lot of whitespace changes in the test file [00:40:25] Brooke: look at master, that sql query isn't there either [00:40:39] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?p=mediawiki/core.git;a=blob;f=includes/actions/InfoAction.php;h=a578569ae4ebff174032ecaac94e0e34e978f27c;hb=d9e8e13fd930c17f8a841791bc498ce90fc07c20 [00:40:42] s/that/those/ [00:40:44] Hmm, right. [00:41:08] All right. [00:41:14] 06(LATER) References broken on rotate in WP7 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37944 +comment (10Jon) [00:42:18] 03(FIXED) Do not use wfMsg in MobileFrontend - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40338 (10Jon) [00:44:16] 03(mod) Mobile site should have selenium tests - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37260 normal->15enhancement (10Jon) [00:44:56] 03(mod) Mobile host parsing results in notices with unexpected hostname - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38850 +comment (10Jon) [00:59:00] 03(FIXED) MobileFrontend extension doesn't load MediaWiki:Common.css - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34325 +comment (10Jon) [01:03:06] New review: Krinkle; "Since 1.20 was already branched (!), please backport this after it goes into mater." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25037 [01:04:11] Reedy: Why is release notes gone from master? [01:04:20] Usually we keep it so that it is easier to merge [01:04:26] "usually" [01:04:29] Always [01:05:15] Now the committer can't put them anywhere [01:05:23] -1.21 [01:05:42] I know they're not gone, I'm talking about -120 [01:06:02] Most people shouldn't be committing to 1.20 now anyway [01:06:11] Most things will be commit and backport [01:06:31] Based on past experience, people will still use the wrong one anyway [01:06:33] Well, there is a list of open blockers. I don't know why we would want to branch now, then fix the remaiming bugs, and backport, instead of fixing stuff and then branching when at least known blockers are in. [01:06:48] Well, those commits can be fixed. [01:07:12] Anyway, I don't care. Just tell me where I'm supposed to put release notes for commits pending approval to master that are to be backported to 1.20 [01:07:43] Just because someone has listed it as a blocker doesn't mean it's a blocker. Also http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2012-September/063476.html [01:08:09] You can merge to trunk and add to HISTORY if you want [01:08:17] Sure, listing doesn't make it a blocker. But just branching doesn't make it not a blocker. There are regressions that are known to be blocking and so far has been agreed upon to block release. [01:08:18] Or don't add anything, and make the merge to branch, and add it there [01:08:32] Add to HISTORY? 1.20 isn't in history. [01:08:55] We merge to 1.20, not commit directly. So we maintain release notes in master, right? [01:09:41] Why do it the hard way if there is an easy way. [01:09:47] try updating your clone https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?p=mediawiki/core.git;a=blame;f=HISTORY;h=c7d102ca981e970867ebcf057d385d8ede6bc51a;hb=HEAD [01:10:23] 03(mod) Enable 'interface_editor' flag on ptwikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39905 (10mybugs.mail) [01:10:48] Why is 1.20 in history? That means we'll have to maintain it in two places across two different branches. [01:10:59] And of course merges wouldn't take it since it is a different file. [01:11:23] To be honest, I couldn't really care. Add RELEASE-NOTES-1.20 back to master if it offends you [01:11:31] I'm just trying to understand why it was done differently then before when it doesn't seem to be for any obvious advantage. [01:11:38] no problem. [01:11:52] It's never been documented as "this is how it should/will be done" [01:13:42] * Reedy shrugs [01:13:42] :p [01:15:02] !g bf4e93234904bfc3b7a549234d4bd4386a7dd5f5 [01:15:02] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#q,bf4e93234904bfc3b7a549234d4bd4386a7dd5f5,n,z [01:15:15] 03(mod) Enable $wgAllowCopyUploads (upload by URL) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/20512 +comment (10This, that and the other) [01:16:03] New patchset: Krinkle; "Release notes: Maintain 1.20 notes in master, revert history." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25722 [01:18:04] Reedy: Do you mind merging it :) [01:18:33] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25722 [01:19:00] 03(mod) url parsing does not recognize mixed case protocols - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34939 +comment (10Krinkle) [01:23:29] 04(REOPENED) MobileFrontend extension doesn't load MediaWiki:Common.css - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34325 +comment (10MZMcBride) [01:27:34] 0122 [01:33:02] 03(mod) Kill $wgMFRemovableClasses in MobileFrontend extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40343 +comment (10MZMcBride) [01:38:22] 03(mod) url parsing does not recognize mixed case protocols - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34939 (10jidanni) [01:40:29] Rotfl... someone patched Parser_LinkHooks.php [01:50:26] meh, so tell me, why do you experiment with soft at night [01:50:42] I got a strange messages about non existing my account:-) [02:15:08] 03(NEW) WikiEditor interface overflows out of bodyContent div - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40608 trivial; MediaWiki extensions: WikiEditor; (zhorishna) [02:25:16] 03(NEW) Some RTL interface has incredibly large width, causes horizontal scrolling - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40609 major; MediaWiki: Internationalization; (huji.huji) [02:25:21] 03(mod) Some RTL interfaces has incredibly large width, causes horizontal scrolling - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40609 summary (10Huji) [02:25:28] 03(mod) Some RTL interfaces have incredibly large width, causes horizontal scrolling - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40609 summary (10Huji) [02:25:42] 03(mod) Some RTL interfaces have incredibly large width, causing horizontal scrollbar to appear - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40609 summary (10Huji) [02:35:48] 03(NEW) Editing textarea overflows out of bodyContent div - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40610 trivial; MediaWiki: Page editing; (zhorishna) [02:47:58] 03(mod) "Cancel" link when editing a page should be a button - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40601 +design +easy; +comment (10Isarra) [02:57:39] 03(mod) Editing textarea overflows out of bodyContent div - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40610 +easy (10Isarra) [02:57:44] 03(mod) WikiEditor interface overflows out of bodyContent div - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40608 +easy (10Isarra) [03:14:18] 03(mod) "Cancel" link when editing a page should be a button - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40601 +comment (10Brandon Harris) [03:30:16] Hm.. which is better. inner join or subquery? Both are with proper indices. [03:30:17] http://dpaste.org/gkznU/ [03:31:02] Goal: Get ids of runresults of which the status = 1 and the client is older than given timesamp. [03:31:41] http://dpaste.org/gkznU/raw/ [03:32:55] hello [03:34:22] how does one indent a level heading in mediawiki syntax? ": == Heading" does not work but displays the equal signs... [03:35:26] Headings can't be indented, don't use wikitext for layout [03:35:47] If you want to indent a citation, wrap it in
[03:35:55] : is for definitions lists, not indentation. [03:36:04] Krinkle: All righty, thanks. [03:36:32] (for later) try ";foo: bar" (semi-colon, colon). [04:13:04] New patchset: Pgehres; "Disabling redirect for GB per agreement between the WMF and WMUK for the 2012 fundraiser." [mediawiki/extensions/FundraiserLandingPage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25726 [04:24:49] 03(mod) Hiding user of latest unflagged page revision causes it to become unrevievable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40599 +comment (10Aaron Schulz) [05:03:55] New patchset: Nischayn22; "New Validator classes for Geo shapes" [mediawiki/extensions/Maps] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25632 [05:04:01] 03(NEW) enable (details | examine) at public filters for confirmed users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40611 normal; MediaWiki extensions: AbuseFilter; (mahitgar) [05:06:37] New review: Nischayn22; "If the rest looks okay to you merge with master :)" [mediawiki/extensions/Maps] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25632 [05:53:53] New patchset: Krinkle; "Release notes: Get back lost history" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25727 [05:54:08] Change merged: Krinkle; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25727 [06:11:09] New patchset: Nischayn22; "Added Validation class." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMaps] (nischayn) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24938 [06:14:20] I need help. [06:15:10] I have my own custom installation of MediaWiki, and i need help installing extensions. [06:16:19] More specifically, i want to know what the include path is. [06:16:40] therocketmaster: There's a config variable, actually :) [06:17:13] therocketmaster: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgExtensionsDirectory [06:17:26] therocketmaster: That variable is set somewhere in your LocalSettings.php [06:17:39] therocketmaster: You can change the value, or just throw extensions into that directory :) [06:18:04] therocketmaster: But you also need to put in a line or two for configuration, usually. [06:18:30] See, i'm totally new to this. [06:19:23] I just installed the wiki on http://rocketpedia.uni.me [06:20:18] 03(NEW) Japanese keywords to search for files - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40612 normal; Wikimedia: lucene-search-2; (sentberg) [06:20:39] therocketmaster: That's OK, it's why we're here! :) [06:21:15] therocketmaster: Around line 131 of your LocalSettings.php file, you've made a mistake--do you want to pastebin that part of the file, or do you think you can fix it? [06:21:20] !pastebin | therocketmaster [06:21:20] therocketmaster: Please do not paste more than 2-3 lines of text into the channel as it disrupts the flow of conversation. When sharing multiple lines of code, please use a pastebin such as or and post a link to your paste in the channel. [06:23:29] Mark, i want to fix it myself, but i need help. [06:23:55] I don't know the syntax of require_once. [06:24:25] And, i don't know where the include path is. [06:25:49] New review: Krinkle; "Hm.. this is wrong also. The branch was entirely from that point, not just the release notes." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25727 [06:25:58] New patchset: Krinkle; "Revert "Release notes: Get back lost history"" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25728 [06:26:03] Change merged: Krinkle; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25728 [06:26:54] therocketmaster: OK, for this part, we can use the extension page. What extension are you installing? [06:27:50] I have line 131 set to "require_once(''$IP/extensions/Cite/Cite.php'')" [06:28:13] therocketmaster: OK, let's use the Cite page. [06:28:17] !e Cite | therocketmaster [06:28:18] therocketmaster: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Cite [06:28:20] Cite [06:28:39] it: That's quite a nice nick, is it registered? [06:28:55] therocketmaster: Have you followed these instructions? [06:29:00] yes, sadly :( [06:29:27] Yes, but what's the include path? [06:29:37] Or, where is it? [06:29:40] ori-l: This was the first nick, alphabetically, that I could register as of a few weeks ago. [06:30:18] therocketmaster: The include path isn't anything you need to worry about....basically the root of your mediawiki. But your problem is, you've used two single-quotes instead of a double-quote. [06:30:26] therocketmaster: '' instead of " [06:30:51] therocketmaster: Also, you may have missed a semicolon. [06:31:51] therocketmaster: Really, copying the code from the page is always more reliable than typing it in yourself :) [06:32:05] Now it says there's an unexpected $end on line 132. [06:32:08] * marktraceur doesn't trust himself to accurately type things in any case [06:32:24] therocketmaster: Probably missing semicolon. Add a semicolon to the end of line 131. [06:33:53] New patchset: Krinkle; "Release notes: Get back lost history" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25729 [06:34:06] Change merged: Krinkle; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25729 [06:34:23] I fixed it! [06:34:33] therocketmaster: Yay! [06:34:53] New review: Parent5446; "I think this is a pretty big hack. We cannot just add special functionality every time we need wfExp..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25721 [06:35:09] It works now, and Special:Version says the extension is working. [06:35:55] therocketmaster: Good, good. Let us know if you need any more help :) [06:36:38] New patchset: Krinkle; "ResourceLoader: Refactor style loading" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25037 [06:37:01] New review: Krinkle; "* Rebased again" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25037 [06:45:06] Now, how do i stop my browser from showing "index.php/Main_Page"? [06:46:06] And, i don't have access to the server where the wiki is hosted. [06:51:58] !shorturls | therocketmaster [06:51:58] therocketmaster: To create simple URLs (such as the /wiki/PAGENAME style URLs on Wikimedia sites), follow the instructions at or try the new beta tool at . There are instructions for most different webserver setups. If you have problems getting the rewrite rules to work, see !rewriteproblem [07:11:30] How do i make the interwiki table editable? [07:12:07] I can view it with Special:Interwiki. [07:21:24] 03(mod) Convert some MediaWiki user preferences into JavaScript gadgets (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40346 +comment (10Nemo_bis) [07:22:37] 03(mod) "Cancel" link when editing a page should be a button - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40601 +comment (10Isarra) [07:30:37] 03(mod) "Cancel" link when editing a page should be a button - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40601 +comment (10Brandon Harris) [07:41:08] therocketmaster: I don't know that one! Let's see if wm-bot knows. [07:41:14] !interwiki | therocketmaster [07:41:14] therocketmaster: Interwiki links are links between wikis. For instance, on Wikibooks, [[w:Article name]] or [[wikipedia:Article name]] will link to a Wikipedia article. To set up interwiki links, see and . For easy configuration, use [07:41:20] Ooh, cool [07:49:15] Okay, how do i remove index.php from the URL? [07:50:15] It's currently showing as http://rocketpedia.uni.me/wiki/index.php/Main_Page [07:51:25] I need to know. Do i edit LocalSettings.php? [07:53:24] therocketmaster: The Short_URL page tells you how. [07:54:45] New patchset: Siebrand; "Various updates for WebFonts." [mediawiki/extensions/WebFonts] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25618 [07:55:39] New review: Siebrand; "PS2 contains reversal of the removed parameter (I'd misinterpreted what was happening) and adds inpu..." [mediawiki/extensions/WebFonts] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25618 [07:58:14] New patchset: Siebrand; "Add profiling." [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25615 [07:59:59] New patchset: Siebrand; "Small tweaks." [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25730 [08:00:30] New review: Siebrand; "Thanks for the review, Arthur." [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25615 [08:07:28] Change merged: MaxSem; [mediawiki/extensions/GeoData] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22939 [08:08:02] New patchset: Siebrand; "Maintenance for UserThrottle extension." [mediawiki/extensions/UserThrottle] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25731 [08:11:53] New patchset: Siebrand; "Maintenance for UnicodeConverter extension." [mediawiki/extensions/UnicodeConverter] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25732 [08:16:00] 03(ASSIGNED) enable (details | examine) at public filters for confirmed users on mr.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40611 normal->15enhancement; +shell; summary; +comment (10Dereckson) [08:18:21] 03(mod) enable (details | examine) at public filters for confirmed users on mr.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40611 +patch-in-gerrit; +comment (10Dereckson) [08:26:19] 03(mod) Set up and test the pretty URLs for Wikidata (5) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40389 (10silke.meyer) [08:27:44] 03(mod) Allow ssh access to willow.toolserver.org and nightshade.toolserver.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40583 +comment (10Dereckson) [08:43:18] 03(mod) "Cancel" link when editing a page should be a button - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40601 +comment (10Isarra) [08:49:22] New patchset: Toniher; "Allow array params" [mediawiki/extensions/UrlGetParameters] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25734 [09:21:51] 03(mod) Convert some MediaWiki user preferences into JavaScript gadgets (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40346 +comment (10Isarra) [09:40:16] New patchset: Toniher; "in case no option value attrib" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticForms] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25735 [09:43:08] 03(NEW) Number of posts and percentage of "found what they were looking for" are off - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40613 normal; MediaWiki extensions: ArticleFeedbackv5; (wctaiwan) [09:52:15] New patchset: Umherirrender; "(bug 34960) drop unused fields rc_moved_to_ns/rc_moved_to_title" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17894 [09:53:19] New review: Umherirrender; "Rebased. Please merge asap to avoid next conflict or rebase self before merging. Thanks." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17894 [09:55:20] 14(INVALID) Number of posts and percentage of "found what they were looking for" are off - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40613 +comment (10Matthias Mullie) [09:56:01] New review: Umherirrender; "Is it possible to get this in 1.20?" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17512 [10:15:33] Change abandoned: Umherirrender; "This Change has long outstanding review, no more support from my site for this patch set" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4549 [10:21:40] New patchset: Umherirrender; "Drop unused database field ss_admins" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24675 [10:22:08] New review: Umherirrender; "Rebased, moved to 1.21" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24675 [10:26:06] New patchset: Umherirrender; "(bug 34960) drop unused fields rc_moved_to_ns/rc_moved_to_title" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17894 [10:26:24] New review: Umherirrender; "Moved to 1.21" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17894 [10:37:03] New patchset: Umherirrender; "(bug 32951) Do not register absolute internal externals" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/18094 [10:37:45] New review: Umherirrender; "Rebased and moved to 1.21" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/18094 [10:41:13] New patchset: Denny Vrandecic; "ContentHandler changes all squashed in one (DO NOT MERGE)" [mediawiki/core] (Wikidata) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25736 [10:41:46] 03(mod) Number of posts and percentage of "found what they were looking for" are off - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40613 (10wctaiwan) [10:42:56] 03(FIXED) Overlapping in Special:Preferences by small windows in IE - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/19497 +comment (10Umherirrender) [10:44:18] 03(FIXED) Clean up table user_newtalk - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/23847 +comment (10Umherirrender) [10:45:11] 03(FIXED) Invalidate full cache of math image on WMF - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24445 +comment (10Umherirrender) [10:45:15] 03(mod) Per-wiki namespace aliases shouldn't override (remove) global ones - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29692 +comment (10Nemo_bis) [10:46:41] 03(mod) new "new messages" does not shown on de.wp - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40512 +comment (10Umherirrender) [10:47:17] 03(mod) Number of posts and percentage of "found what they were looking for" are off - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40613 +comment (10Matthias Mullie) [10:52:30] 03(mod) deleting translation from Message.php does not update to fallback - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/26325 +comment (10Umherirrender) [11:26:29] 03(NEW) Closure of zawikt, zh-min-nanwikibooks, strategywiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40614 normal; Wikimedia: Site configuration; (mfwarburg) [11:31:15] 03(mod) Closure of zawikt, zh-min-nanwikibooks, strategywiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40614 +shell (10MF-Warburg) [11:31:16] 03(mod) Wikis ready for closing (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28985 (10MF-Warburg) [12:43:48] 03(NEW) MediaWiki Installer Translation in translatewiki.net - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40615 normal; MediaWiki: Internationalization; (aranet100) [12:55:13] 03(mod) MediaWiki Installer Translation in translatewiki.net - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40615 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [12:59:23] 03(mod) Repeat "Mark as read" at end of each thread on Special:NewMessages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/26831 summary; +comment (10Nemo_bis) [13:06:40] 03(mod) [SMW] [ROADMAP] [OPEN] Replace #info pop-up code - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37361 +comment (10MWJames) [13:13:19] 03(mod) Closure of zawikt, zh-min-nanwikibooks, strategywiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40614 +comment (10Krenair) [13:35:21] New patchset: Matmarex; "(bug 36151) mw.Title: allow unlimited file extension length" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25739 [13:35:59] 03(mod) Provide more options on dashboard - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30334 +comment (10Nemo_bis) [13:36:12] 03(mod) mw.Title should not have an extension limit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36151 +patch-in-gerrit; +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [13:59:12] 03(NEW) Invisible changes to article - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40616 blocker; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (meme) [13:59:26] 03(mod) Some RTL interfaces have incredibly large width, causing horizontal scrollbar to appear - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40609 +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [14:02:34] New review: Reedy; "Again, no, I branched it from the same point that 1.20wmf12 was branched, as was said was going to h..." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25727 [14:02:47] New patchset: Reedy; "Revert "Release notes: Get back lost history"" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25740 [14:02:55] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25740 [14:03:23] New patchset: Reedy; "Revert "Release notes: Get back lost history"" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25741 [14:03:45] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25741 [14:04:12] New review: Reedy; "I do note, however, a couple of those updates want forward porting (changelog improvements), and may..." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25727 [14:05:48] release notes seems to be in a constant conflict state when it comes to merges... Shouldn't be better to commit it once the changes are merged? [14:06:06] 03(mod) Invisible changes to article - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40616 +comment (10Krenair) [14:06:39] 03(mod) Some RTL interfaces have incredibly large width, causing horizontal scrollbar to appear - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40609 +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [14:08:46] 03(mod) Invisible changes to article - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40616 +comment (10Krenair) [14:10:17] 03(mod) MediaWiki Installer Translation in translatewiki.net - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40615 (10aranet100) [14:12:52] 03(NEW) Installer is not change $wgLogo URL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40617 normal; MediaWiki: Installer; (aranet100) [14:13:40] 03(mod) Invisible changes to article - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40616 (10meme) [14:17:11] Vulpix: Maybe [14:17:17] Or we just need a better way of doing release notes [14:23:17] Reedy, could you take a look at https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40616 please? [14:24:51] It's a bug! [14:24:52] * Reedy shrugs [14:25:35] probaly caused by broken transactions... [14:25:38] Categories seem duplicated [14:25:55] and the link box at the bottom is truncated [14:28:37] 03(mod) Prefix index search and namespaces in Special:Withoutinterwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/10049 +comment (10Paul Selitskas) [14:28:43] New patchset: Reedy; "Revert "Revert "Release notes: Get back lost history""" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25742 [14:28:51] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25742 [14:32:27] New review: Reedy; "Which you've done for the amendments" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25727 [14:34:36] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24675 [14:46:42] New patchset: Reedy; "* (bug 39665) List of query generators is now not built using reflection, instead it is defined in code." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22936 [14:56:04] hi. how to transclude first n lines of another page? [14:57:10] gleki: can't be done, unless some extensions does it [14:57:20] you might want to check out and , https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Template#Noinclude.2C_includeonly.2C_and_onlyinclude [14:57:50] i know that. but the person who will use my mw is even a worse noob than me. [14:59:23] New patchset: Reedy; "* (bug 39665) List of query generators is now not built using reflection, instead it is defined in code." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22936 [15:00:12] it shouldn't be so difficult to understand that the page will include only what's not inside tags... [15:00:17] New patchset: Reedy; "* (bug 39665) List of query generators is now not built using reflection, instead it is defined in code." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22936 [15:00:32] or onlyinclude [15:04:38] isn't it includeonly? [15:05:03] both [15:05:11] all of t hem [15:05:11] as in, there are two tags, doing different things [15:05:13] none of them [15:05:16] [15:05:27] like wikimedia and mediawiki. we like crafting this kind of confusion. [15:05:28] :> [15:10:24] New patchset: Matmarex; "(bug 35923) tweaks to mediawiki.action.history.diff.css" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25743 [15:11:04] 03(mod) Followup to bug 11374 - tweaks to mediawiki.action.history.diff.css - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35923 -patch -patch-need-review +patch-in-gerrit; +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [15:11:52] Ah good... MatmaRex [15:11:54] New review: Matmarex; "As I'm just the committer, not the author, I'll +1 it myself. " [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25743 [15:12:02] Dantman: yeah? [15:12:36] MatmaRex, http://blog.redwerks.org/2012/09/28/using-git-to-manage-and-upgrade-a-wiki-with-modifications-to-core/ [15:13:47] 03(mod) Followup to bug 11374 - tweaks to mediawiki.action.history.diff.css - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35923 (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [15:13:47] 03(mod) mw.Title should not have an extension limit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36151 (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [15:14:19] are there any risks with $wgUseAjax in a MW1.20 installation? [15:16:39] New patchset: Aude; "add source option for populateInterwiki script and other misc cleanup" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25744 [15:17:38] hm. i just got a watchlist email from en.wiki, that says a page was created, when it was actually deleted. [15:18:27] maybe it was in your watchlist before it was created and then deleted [15:19:14] 03(mod) Hiding user of latest unflagged page revision causes it to become unrevievable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40599 +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [15:19:53] it was added to my watchlist when i prod-2'd it [15:20:59] New patchset: Umherirrender; "(bug 34960) drop unused fields rc_moved_to_ns/rc_moved_to_title" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17894 [15:21:13] New review: Umherirrender; "Rebased" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17894 [15:22:17] I've just enabled $wgAjaxWatch, but it doesn't seem to do anything… I'm still redirected to a watch/unwatch page… any ideas? [15:24:25] shepazu: maybe it's some caching somewhere? [15:24:34] or maybe you just have javascript disabled in your browser [15:24:44] it'd help if you could link the wiki, so we'd be able to look at it [15:24:54] MatmaRex: it might be caching… I'll give it some time [15:25:12] MatmaRex: not launched yet, but thanks :) [15:25:29] MatmaRex: I appreciate your responding [15:28:07] MatmaRex, yeah, those emails are bugged and will be replaced (hopefully) soon [15:28:36] (Although that said, the replacement is also bugged atm) [15:28:59] See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Echo_(Notifications) [15:34:13] New patchset: Matmarex; "CologneBlue rewrite: #toplinks fixes" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25707 [15:35:01] Interesting... we are on MediaWiki 1.21... [15:35:42] We are, I branched and bumped [15:35:58] 03(mod) Convert some MediaWiki user preferences into JavaScript gadgets (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40346 +comment (10MZMcBride) [15:36:35] Template:MWReleases ain't updated... [15:36:45] updating it now... [15:37:47] 04(REOPENED) $wgSecureLogin does not redirect to http if wpStickHTTPS is unchecked - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40541 +comment (10Chris Steipp) [15:41:55] New patchset: Matmarex; "CologneBlue rewrite: #toplinks fixes" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25707 [15:43:22] New review: CSteipp; "I also don't actually like this code. When this is used, resources on the https login page are loade..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25721 [15:45:52] 03(mod) "Cancel" link when editing a page should be a button - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40601 +comment (10MZMcBride) [15:46:35] 03(NEW) sorting table with one (first) column unsorted - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40618 normal; MediaWiki: JavaScript; (winne2i) [15:53:54] 03(mod) sorting table with one (first) column unsorted - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40618 normal->15enhancement; +comment (10Jesús Martínez Novo) [16:01:56] $wgCleanupPresentationalAttributes seems pretty evil to me. [16:02:07] It feels very "wait, I know regvular expressions." [16:02:11] It feels very "wait, I know regular expressions." [16:02:36] 03(mod) $wgSecureLogin does not redirect to http if wpStickHTTPS is unchecked - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40541 +comment (10Tyler Romeo) [16:03:08] New review: Daniel Friesen; "Why not use the actual PROTO_ constants directly? Instead of making people write something different?" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25529 [16:05:14] New review: Parent5446; "The reason I didn't use the PROTO_ constants is because it would require changing how Linker functio..." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25529 [16:05:21] 03(mod) Prefix index search and namespaces in Special:Withoutinterwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/10049 +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [16:06:04] the entire parser thing is about "wait, I know regular expressions" :P [16:10:19] 03(mod) Don't use hacks to replicate a browser function, either let align="" pass through or not; in HTML5 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40329 +comment (10MZMcBride) [16:15:14] 03(mod) Invisible changes to article - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40616 (10mpm8) [16:22:54] 03(mod) "cols" preference is redundant and should be removed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24430 +comment (10Chad H.) [16:32:13] 03(NEW) Removing of admin flag on Northern S�mi Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40619 normal; Wikimedia: Site configuration; (kukkakuu) [16:34:38] 03(mod) Article content is shown below saved articles - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35847 (10mpm8) [16:35:42] 03(mod) Shake to show random Article in Wikipedia app - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37722 (10mpm8) [16:39:35] 03(mod) Installer is not change $wgLogo URL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40617 +comment (10Dereckson) [16:47:47] 03(mod) Don't use hacks to replicate a browser function, either let align="" pass through or not; in HTML5 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40329 +comment (10Daniel Friesen) [17:00:49] 03(mod) Hiding user of latest unflagged page revision causes it to become unrevievable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40599 +comment (10Aaron Schulz) [17:17:14] 03(mod) Installation of Extension:EditSimilar on fr.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/20658 (10Dereckson) [17:17:14] 03(NEW) Review and deploy EditSimilar extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40620 enhancement; Wikimedia: Extension setup; (dereckson) [17:18:28] 03(mod) Installation of Extension:EditSimilar on fr.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/20658 -patch-need-review (10Dereckson) [17:21:26] New patchset: Siebrand; "Maintenance for TimedMediaHandler extension." [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25745 [17:26:39] what's the difference between "wfMessage( 'stuff' )->inContentLanguage()->text()" and "wfMessage( 'stuff' )->text()"? arent the messages already in content language? [17:27:34] New patchset: Siebrand; "Replace deprecated wfMsg()." [mediawiki/extensions/SubPageList3] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25746 [17:29:42] 03(WONTFIX) Wrapper id consistency across skins - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/18722 +comment (10Daniel Friesen) [17:36:08] 03(mod) Review and deploy EditSimilar extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40620 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [17:40:24] 03(mod) Wrapper id consistency across skins - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/18722 +comment (10Jesús Martínez Novo) [17:43:31] New patchset: Siebrand; "Add profiling for database interaction methods." [mediawiki/extensions/StrategyWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25747 [17:43:32] New patchset: Siebrand; "Maintenance for StrategyWiki extension." [mediawiki/extensions/StrategyWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25748 [17:44:09] 03(mod) Invisible changes to article - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40616 (10meme) [17:44:55] New review: Umherirrender; "Has unrelated changes in Release Note." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22936 [17:46:06] 03(mod) Jump-to accessibility links feature broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34893 +comment (10Daniel Friesen) [17:46:09] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions/StrategyWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25747 [17:47:23] New patchset: Nischayn22; "New Validator classes for Geo shapes" [mediawiki/extensions/Maps] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25632 [17:47:54] New patchset: Reedy; "* (bug 39665) List of query generators is now not built using reflection, instead it is defined in code." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22936 [17:49:15] New patchset: Reedy; "* (bug 39665) List of query generators is now not built using reflection, instead it is defined in code." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22936 [17:53:37] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25615 [17:54:09] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25730 [17:54:43] 03(NEW) Usability should be default (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40621 normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (mediawiki-bugs) [17:54:53] 03(mod) Usability should be default (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40621 (10Daniel Friesen) [17:54:54] 03(mod) Tracking bug (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/2007 (10Daniel Friesen) [17:59:26] 03(mod) Usability should be default (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40621 (10Daniel Friesen) [17:59:26] 03(mod) Set default for $wgVectorUseSimpleSearch to true - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29374 (10Daniel Friesen) [17:59:35] New patchset: Siebrand; "Updates for skins." [mediawiki/extensions/skins] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25749 [18:02:42] 03(mod) Removing of admin flag on Northern S�mi Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40619 +shellpolicy; +comment (10Dereckson) [18:02:54] 03(mod) Usability should be default (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40621 +tracking (10Jesús Martínez Novo) [18:07:27] hmm, ResourceLoader doesn't come with any jquery validation plugins, does it? [18:07:32] not that I can see in the docs [18:10:50] 03(NEW) Set $wgUseTwoButtonsSearchForm = false; by default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40622 normal; MediaWiki: Interface; (mediawiki-bugs) [18:10:51] 03(ASSIGNED) Installer doesn't change $wgLogo URL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40617 summary; +comment (10Dereckson) [18:11:06] 03(mod) Set $wgUseTwoButtonsSearchForm = false; by default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40622 (10Daniel Friesen) [18:11:06] 03(mod) Usability should be default (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40621 (10Daniel Friesen) [18:14:41] 03(mod) $wgVectorUseSimpleSearch = false; (Go + Search button) doesn't react on hitting return - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33561 +comment (10Daniel Friesen) [18:18:17] Nikerabbit, when we remove a i18n message we only remove it from en in the actual commit, right? [18:18:46] 03(mod) $wgVectorUseSimpleSearch = false; (Go + Search button) doesn't react on hitting return - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33561 +comment (10Subfader) [18:21:12] 03(mod) $wgVectorUseSimpleSearch = false; (Go + Search button) doesn't react on hitting return - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33561 +comment (10Daniel Friesen) [18:24:28] New patchset: jan; "(bug 16860) Add api for getting all global groups" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralAuth] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25750 [18:24:58] anybody here? [18:24:59] what's the difference between "wfMessage( 'stuff' )->inContentLanguage()->text()" and "wfMessage( 'stuff' )->text()"? arent the messages already in content language? [18:25:27] does this disable the customisation using MediaWiki: pages? [18:26:19] MatmaRex: they're in the user's language (usually), which may (or may not!) be different from site default; think of using French (fr) interface on an English (en) wiki; with ->inContentLanguage(), the message is shown in site content language, which is English, instead of the user's language, which is French [18:26:58] New patchset: Daniel Friesen; "Remove the showjumplinks user preference." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25751 [18:28:26] 03(mod) Make functions of the Usability Initiative standards compliant - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/23019 +comment (10Daniel Friesen) [18:30:31] ashley: ah. thanks you. [18:30:38] thank you*. [18:30:50] now how do I make gerrit __not__ eat newlines when I'm commenting on something? nobody wants to read a wall of text because it's fucking annoying to, especially when you can use newlines...but every time I do, gerrit eats 'em for breakfast [18:30:54] MatmaRex: yw :) [18:31:13] New review: Reedy; "10:41:45 Auto-merging includes/AutoLoader.php" [mediawiki/core] (Wikidata); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25736 [18:31:21] ashley: uh, i had the same issue, but at least for me it's been fixed [18:33:03] for some reason gerrit *still* doesnt convert newlines to
s or

s in my comments, but somebody added "white-space: pre-wrap !important;" to CSS and it mostly works [18:33:24] ashley: does your browser support this? [18:34:18] it's IE9 so I wouldn't bet too much money on it...but maybe, just maybe [18:36:10] apparently even IE8 should support this, hmm. [18:38:13] another question from me. i've already asked for help and got none: what is a painless way to test out variants on my own wiki? [18:38:44] e.g. zh.wiki has a lot of variants, and sr.wiki has two (https://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Главна_страна) [18:40:13] 14(INVALID) Removing of admin flag on Northern S�mi Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40619 +comment (10Krenair) [18:40:37] there is even https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedias_in_Multi-writing_System [18:41:52] MatmaRex: all I know is that it's somehow related to the LanguageConverter stuff, which is very badly documented and generally understood by very few people [18:43:03] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/25749/1/Nimbus/Nimbus.skin.php -- that's right gerrit, why don't you have a few tabs and newlines more for breakfast, lunch and dinner? [18:43:13] at least CodeReview worked and was easy to use... [18:43:48] let's say i want to create a testing variant for english text that would convert into pig latin. how do i accomplish this? [18:44:02] or even simpler, convert every "a" to "e". just to test if the selection etc works [18:44:35] or do i have to switch the language of my wiki to zh or one of the other languages supporting this? [18:44:43] (uselang has no effect here) [18:45:02] ashley: for me, your comment at the bottom has newlines [18:45:17] in fact, it has multiple newlines everywhere, and is in monospace font. [18:45:19] hooray for gerrit. [18:45:42] (assuming you are Jack Phoenix) [18:45:44] oh wow...not for me :-( there should be multiple newlines, though not monospace font, at least not intentionally (gerrit is way too JS-y for my likes) [18:45:51] (it really should be possible to change your gerrit username, eh) [18:47:05] ashley: uh, it looks like that comment inherits its styles from the code styles. why, dont ask me [18:47:07] but it does [18:47:21] yay... [18:47:53] and it has some very, uh, interesting markup [18:48:03] and by interesting, i mean completely insane [18:48:14] ashley: your comment on that review is really odd... it's inside and
tags [18:48:30] Vulpix: hooray for gerrit [18:48:31] while other comments do use

for newlines [18:48:47] it's not CSS [18:49:27] Vulpix: some do, some just use \n. [18:49:39] for some reason, the way they are parsed seems to depend on the browser used [18:49:43] dont ask me why [18:50:42] ashley: did you wrote the comment on the textarea field or did you copy-pasted from another source? [18:51:30] wrote on the textarea field (though I may have c+p'd a few snippets of the code from the diff itself) [18:51:53] ashley: it displays the same way for me on Opera and IE 8, monospace and with excess newlines [18:51:57] let me make a screenshot [18:53:02] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "Fixed mismatched profile calls in LoadBalancer." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25752 [18:53:56] MatmaRex: The mark-up is what makes it display differently than other comments. It's not a browser-specific issue. Or at least not the comment rendering - If it has some browser-specific issue it would be when the comment was submitted [18:54:30] ashley claims he has no newlines displayed... [18:55:10] Oh, I though he mean that the text wasn't wrapping for long lines [18:57:00] hm, i might be wrong [18:57:06] ashley: which one did you mean? [18:57:07] ashley: do you remember if it was looking oddly before publishing it? i.e. when it was a "draft"? Maybe it detected "php code" (since you added an if statement, etc) and formatted the entire text as a code block [18:57:39] I tried to copy and paste your comment into a new one and in the draft it wrapped lines with no problem [18:57:39] anyway, should somebody care, that's how it looks for me: http://i.imgur.com/2ytiD.png [18:57:56] MatmaRex: same as me [18:58:18] Change merged: IAlex; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25752 [18:58:21] MatmaRex: lol wut [18:58:31] excess newlines indeed [18:59:08] 03(mod) sorting table with one (first) column unsorted - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40618 (10winne2i) [18:59:33] whoa, it seems that it's formatting it like a code block [18:59:45] I partially reproduced this behavior [19:00:51] I copied your comment on a new one and fixing the newlines on the PHP code (when copied, all was put in the same line), and when saving the draft (without commiting the review) the code is formatted as a preformatted text [19:00:58] *fixed [19:01:41] It may be called a "feature" :P [19:01:45] this is what I see: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/mediawiki/d/db/Gerrit_fail_on_IE9.png [19:04:31] 03(FIXED) Make functions of the Usability Initiative standards compliant - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/23019 +comment (10Christian Thiele) [19:04:33] it's strange, since on every newline there's a

. IE should display more space between lines [19:04:46] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "The inline comments need to be taken care of before merge with master. I'd also be good if you added..." [mediawiki/extensions/Maps] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25632 [19:07:38] 03(NEW) Getting Jenkins working for Wikibase extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40623 major; MediaWiki extensions: Wikidata; (Danweetz) [19:08:46] 03(mod) Removing of admin flag on Northern S�mi Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40619 (10kukkakuu) [19:09:10] New review: Nischayn22; "The criteria class can use only one method from validators, plus some are different as criteria meth..." [mediawiki/extensions/Maps] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25632 [19:10:49] 03(NEW) Rollback doesn't add patrol info - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40624 normal; MediaWiki: Patrolling; (robinhood70) [19:11:27] 03(mod) Removing of admin flag on Northern S�mi Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40619 (10kukkakuu) [19:12:58] 03(NEW) Can't change E-Mail address in bugzilla.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40625 normal; Wikimedia: Bugzilla; (Danweetz) [19:14:35] New review: Alex Monk; "Hello?" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22038 [19:14:35] 03(NEW) clean up timestamp database fields - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40626 normal; MediaWiki: Database; (duplicatebug) [19:15:04] 03(mod) Removing of admin flag on Northern S�mi Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40619 +comment (10Dereckson) [19:18:15] New review: Krinkle; "Bump" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/21873 [19:19:44] New patchset: Matmarex; "CologneBlue rewrite: fix variantLinks()" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25753 [19:22:38] 03(mod) File history from shared repository parsed in context of local wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22001 (10duplicatebug) [19:24:03] 03(mod) Removing of admin flag on Northern S�mi Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40619 +comment (10Dereckson) [19:28:43] 03(mod) Add missing preferences for hide/show like for minor edits and patrolled edits. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27050 (10duplicatebug) [19:28:44] 03(mod) Personal option to hide own changes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22213 (10duplicatebug) [19:30:31] 03(mod) File name too long, impossible to create a thumbnail (limit uploaded file name length). - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22285 (10duplicatebug) [19:33:47] 03(mod) {{PAGENAME}} and like does nothing with url-encoded title - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40442 (10duplicatebug) [19:33:48] 03(mod) {{NAMESPACE:}} parser function has trouble with encoded symbols in page titles - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22553 (10duplicatebug) [19:36:13] hello [19:36:31] 03(mod) WhatLinksHere contains incorrect hits for images that are included in galleries - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22683 (10duplicatebug) [19:36:40] i set up a wiki, but anyone is able to edit his group now, with special page "benutzerrechte" [19:36:48] $wgGroupPermissions['*']['userrights'] = false; is set [19:37:03] but a user still can give himself admin privileges [19:37:18] 03(mod) Adding an arrow pointing to the edit form in MediaWiki:Previewnote - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22743 (10duplicatebug) [19:40:13] 03(mod) $wgAutopromoted groups not showing on Special:Userrights... - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22820 (10duplicatebug) [19:40:25] anybody might help? [19:44:06] New review: Matmarex; "See inline." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24681 [19:44:58] Seems Twingly already left. [19:45:01] god dammit TwinglyTingly [19:45:08] why cant people wait for 15 minutes [19:45:15] it's not like it hurts them to keep the irc lcient open [19:45:21] 03(mod) Autoblocks cause misleading display on contributions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/23059 (10duplicatebug) [19:45:40] there should be something about being patient in the topic. [19:46:34] MatmaRex: I doubt impatient people read the topic :P [19:46:40] inpatient* [19:46:49] Errr.. /me shrugs* [19:47:16] Right the first time :/ [19:48:05] He waited a whole 7 minutes [19:50:37] Change abandoned: Matmarex; "(no reason)" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23103 [19:52:35] 03(mod) sorting table with one (first) column unsorted - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40618 +comment (10Jesús Martínez Novo) [19:53:11] 03(mod) {{Special:RecentChanges}}, {{Special:NewPages}} - including on the page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/23373 (10duplicatebug) [19:58:07] 03(mod) Log entry for page moves "over redirect" always rendered with blue links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/23729 (10duplicatebug) [19:59:48] New patchset: Reedy; "Fix Bug 40539 Add Opendyslexic font" [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25481 [20:00:14] 03(mod) sorting table with one (first) column unsorted - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40618 +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [20:01:09] New patchset: Reedy; "Fix Bug 40539 Add Opendyslexic font" [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25481 [20:03:28] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "Ok, clearly I'm not able to explain this properly as I already did so 2 times. Just forget about it,..." [mediawiki/extensions/Maps] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25632 [20:08:58] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "Reuse the curl_multi handle and fixed remove_handle() call order." [mediawiki/extensions/SwiftCloudFiles] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25754 [20:09:09] New review: Aaron Schulz; "Passes all swift tests." [mediawiki/extensions/SwiftCloudFiles] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25754 [20:11:28] New review: Aaron Schulz; "Also see http://curl.haxx.se/libcurl/c/libcurl-multi.html." [mediawiki/extensions/SwiftCloudFiles] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25754 [20:12:05] 14(WFM) Invisible changes to article - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40616 +comment (10Krenair) [20:12:18] 03(mod) Japanese keywords to search for files - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40612 +i18n (10Andre Klapper) [20:13:11] 03(mod) Elements mysteriously empty in PPNode_DOM XML serialization - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/21681 +comment (10Jesús Martínez Novo) [20:15:28] 03(NEW) Make uls.data in jquery.uls.js human readable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40627 trivial; MediaWiki extensions: UniversalLanguageSelector; (sam) [20:17:56] 03(mod) let empty metadata-elements pass through tidy - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27786 +comment (10Jesús Martínez Novo) [20:18:55] 03(mod) href="" is not OK for a dummy link - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/26133 (10duplicatebug) [20:18:56] 03(mod) Templates of Cite collapse behind - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31983 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [20:20:50] 03(mod) Database layer should allow arrays for ORDER BY, GROUP BY, HAVING - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/26274 (10duplicatebug) [20:20:52] 03(mod) PHP Notice: Undefined index: href in /www/w/skins/Vector.php on line 416 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38334 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [20:24:01] 03(mod) sorting table with one (first) column unsorted - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40618 +comment (10tm112) [20:26:12] 03(mod) sorting table with one (first) column unsorted - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40618 +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [20:28:06] i've set up a mediawiki on http://www.adaptivesampling.org with cite extension, the strange thing is that the references only show if i'm logged in, the wiki source seems fine and there's no warning or error by cite extension and nothing in the apache log [20:28:23] hi philipp__ [20:28:26] hi [20:28:45] that does sound weird [20:29:05] have you looked around https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Cite and its talk page? [20:29:08] sumanah: yeah, you can have a look at the wiki source... there's nothing wrong i think [20:29:32] a bit, i've found one forum with the same problems, but there was no solutions [20:30:19] 03(mod) PHP Notice: Undefined index: href in /www/w/skins/Vector.php on line 416 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38334 +comment (10Nemo_bis) [20:30:24] philipp__: you have a very old version of MediaWiki and I recommend upgrading [20:30:34] philipp__: the most recent version is 1.19.2 [20:30:49] some reasons to upgrade, on top of many security improvements: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Upgrading#Why_upgrade.3F [20:31:28] sumanah: thanks, probably thats the first thing i should try [20:31:31] yeah [20:31:53] !announce [20:31:53] mediawiki-announce is a very-low-traffic email list announcing new MediaWiki releases and security updates. Subscribe at https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-announce [20:32:01] philipp__: ^^^ you should subscribe to that [20:32:10] and then you'll be told when there's a new release out, espec. security stuff [20:32:42] thanks, so far i'm using the ubuntu packages... i should probably switch so my own installation [20:33:37] philipp__: the versions of MediaWiki available via package managers tend to be broken in various ways [20:33:46] and incredibly old [20:34:06] MatmaRex: not only with mediawiki ;-) [20:34:55] yeah, especially the second part :P [20:36:49] philipp__: we are currently working on improving the packaging situation [20:37:20] sumanah: how? are you trying to provide own packages? [20:37:51] philipp__: various MediaWiki community members are talking about it on the wikitech-l mailing list [20:37:52] !lists [20:37:52] mediawiki-l and wikitech-l are the primary mailing lists for MediaWiki-related issues. See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mailing_lists for details. [20:38:21] philipp__: the basic idea of ensuring that there are responsive and good maintainers for .deb and .rpm packages has been elusive in the past but maybe this time we'll nail it [20:39:25] the best way is to find a sponsor and do the packaging yourself...?! [20:39:42] then your're sure that it'll be up to date [20:40:03] philipp__: do you do any packaging yourself? [20:40:14] i'm developer, yes [20:40:32] want to help? [20:41:09] i could do the uploading yes, but i'm not too familiar with web stuff [20:46:46] 03(mod) MediaWiki Installer Translation in translatewiki.net - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40615 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [20:47:11] philipp__: specifically check out http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/wiki/wikitech/300889 [20:47:18] biab [20:48:00] 03(mod) MediaWiki Installer Translation in translatewiki.net - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40615 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [20:48:52] 03(mod) Translations updates weren't backported for 1.19.2 release - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40615 summary (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [20:50:30] 03(mod) clean up timestamp database fields - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40626 (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [20:50:31] 03(mod) Database table cleanup (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/16660 (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [21:05:18] 03(mod) sorting table with one (first) column unsorted - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40618 +comment (10tm112) [21:16:37] 03(mod) Cloned tables for unittests do not have references and constraints - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37702 +comment (10Tim Landscheidt) [21:20:23] DanielK_WMDE: guess which long-delayed project I am working on? a project that involves you and a collaboration we engaged in for several months this year? [21:20:28] the answer: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/File:Berlin-hackathon-2012-survey-results.pdf [21:32:36] any bugzilla admins around? Please ban duplicatebug@googlemail.com [21:33:00] 04(REOPENED) File history from shared repository parsed in context of local wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22001 +comment (10Maarten Dammers) [21:33:26] * multichill pokes sumanah [21:33:34] What? Why? [21:33:39] hi multichill [21:33:46] Thehelpfulone: ^ [21:33:51] ah, that's not legit? [21:34:02] I thought duplicatebug was okay? [21:34:16] He's been around quite a while [21:34:28] 03(mod) Passing minus sign (x2215) to the magicword formatnum blanks pages on Malayalam WIkipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40587 summary (10Raziman T V) [21:34:49] Might be a troll, but mostly seems helpful [21:34:50] yeah, I have never seen vandalism from him/her, I think [21:35:05] multichill, why do you want this guy banned? [21:35:12] Krenair: I presume https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22001 [21:35:32] multichill: I've removed the person's editbugs right so s/he can comment on bugs but not close them [21:36:04] The account name isn't confusing [21:36:17] As for adding nonsense, what do you mean? He was wrong about something? [21:36:27] Krenair: I think it's moderately confusing [21:36:36] Sorry, but banning him is a terrible idea. [21:36:44] We need a better recent changes list on bz [21:36:46] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?emailreporter1=1&emailcc1=1&list_id=149430&emaillongdesc1=1&emailtype1=substring&emailassigned_to1=1&query_format=advanced&email1=duplicatebug%40googlemail.com - 713 bugs that she or he has commented on or opened or what have you [21:36:59] Dantman, BZ has a recent changes list? [21:37:14] No clue... things like that are usually hidden somewhere [21:37:34] There is wikibugs-l but I think that's only for bugs with the default assignee [21:37:48] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=runnamed&namedcmd=Changed%20in%20last%2024%20hours&list_id=149433 [21:37:53] ^ I use that as recent changes [21:38:02] Krenair: If someone has an accountname like that and just closes a bug I see a troll [21:38:25] You're way too quick to identify someone as a troll then. [21:38:31] Reedy, "There is no saved search named 'Changed in last 24 hours'." [21:38:37] multichill: examples of this person being pretty reasonable: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34779 and https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_activity.cgi?id=17510 [21:38:56] Krenair: You can use "Search by change history" in the advanced search menu [21:38:58] He didn't even mark the bug as duplicate. [21:38:58] 03(NEW) Wikilove for it.wikiquote - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40628 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikiLove; (e.r) [21:39:07] Bleh [21:39:08] (I'd guess that's what Reedy did for his search that he saved) [21:39:12] BZ fails at sharing thing [21:39:12] Krenair: you keep saying "he" with no evidence, btw :) [21:39:22] I didn't even realise it was "my" search [21:39:26] sumanah, fine then, he/she [21:39:26] apparently it is, but it is shared [21:39:32] * Dantman needs to pay more attention to his meat [21:39:40] * sumanah also uses "they" for this sometimes [21:39:48] 03(mod) Wikilove for it.wikiquote - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40628 normal->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [21:40:08] I've decided to give editbugs back to that user, now that I'm over the immediate "please ban them" thing that sounded like a vandal alert [21:40:29] however I will contact the user to say, hey, a less confusing email address and more "why I am closing this" explanation would gain them a lot of goodwill [21:40:50] multichill: thanks for drawing my attention to it [21:41:00] New patchset: DamianZaremba; "Add shell management hook." [mediawiki/extensions/OpenStackManager] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25700 [21:41:23] sumanah: Search for "duplicatebug@googlemail.com" returned exactly one bug [21:41:41] multichill: check https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?emailreporter1=1&emailcc1=1&list_id=149430&emaillongdesc1=1&emailtype1=substring&emailassigned_to1=1&query_format=advanced&email1=duplicatebug%40googlemail.com and you'll find more like 700 [21:41:42] you searched wrongly then :p [21:41:53] multichill: it's annoying, I know, BZ search can be counterintuitive [21:41:56] Was it the one where you said that full address by any chance? [21:42:01] New patchset: DamianZaremba; "Add shell management hook." [mediawiki/extensions/OpenStackManager] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25700 [21:42:15] duplicatebug@ has been around for years.... [21:42:18] Also... emails are cryptic... [21:42:20] Period... [21:42:38] There's nothing especially problematic with his [21:43:25] New patchset: DamianZaremba; "Add shell management hook." [mediawiki/extensions/OpenStackManager] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25700 [21:43:40] 03(mod) File history from shared repository parsed in context of local wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22001 +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [21:44:11] I'm happy to hear that he's not a troll, just someone with a confusing usernumer looking with his nose [21:44:50] multichill: commented on the bug, writing to him/her now. [21:45:12] * Dantman uses mediawiki-bugs@nadir-seen-fire.com  [21:45:34] ;) sometimes wikibugs is /kind/ enough to call me "mediawiki-bugs: [21:45:35] 03(mod) File history from shared repository parsed in context of local wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22001 +comment (10Maarten Dammers) [21:46:32] Thanks Sumanah [21:46:41] welcome, multichill [21:46:46] I do expect you to submit at least one photo for WLM you know ;-) [21:46:53] btw congrats on THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND wlm photos! [21:47:29] multichill: this is kind of embarrassing, but I only this week got around to separating WMF & personal accounts so I can properly upload to Commons just as a civilian now :) [21:47:43] so this weekend I really want to sort through some holiday snaps to find something for WLM! [21:48:11] Thank you, https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Highlighted_content_from_Wiki_Loves_Monuments is a good place to also see the quality :-D [21:48:50] pretty! [21:49:42] Any tswiki users around? Just noticed some spam: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Tips_On_Choosing_A_Great_Closed_Rhinoplasty_Surgeon_in_LA [21:50:14] * Jasper_Deng pokes Brook [21:50:18] Brooke* [21:50:22] gone [21:56:24] hello [21:57:31] Hi all [21:57:54] are wikipedia and wikisource both running on different versions of mediawiki? [21:59:32] hi Juandev [21:59:40] Dhaval: same version number, but some modifications [21:59:57] Dhaval: you can find out more by going to the Special:Version page for each of those wikis [22:00:26] example: https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Special:Version and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Version [22:00:52] thanks sumanah, I asked this because I am using IE9 and have noticed huge speed variation on gujarati typing on both [22:01:04] Dhaval: also, at certain points during our "deployment cycle" different WMF wikis are running different versions of the software, as we roll out upgrades to certain wikis first [22:01:22] sumanah: gu.wikipedua behaves notmally but gu.wikisource is very slow [22:01:25] Dhaval: sometimes this is because of your own user preferences, custom CSS / JS, gadgets, and sitewide "gadgets" [22:01:46] Dhaval: do you have different user scripts or gadgets turned on, on one site vs the other? [22:02:07] sumanah: I never had this problem earlier, since the gaff of v 1.18 and 1.20 was there, I am facing this [22:02:20] sumanah: I don't think so [22:02:26] Dhaval: do you know how to check? [22:02:43] from my preferences I assume? [22:03:04] for gadgets, yes, you can check your preferences [22:03:34] if you've never edited your User:Dhaval/common.js page on any wikis, then you don't need to check that :) [22:03:39] sumanah: I doubt whether there is any configuration issue with Narayam, as we use it on both the sitesd [22:03:54] hi sumanah, how are you? [22:04:01] sumanah: I am sure, I never edited that [22:04:03] ok, now I'm checking gu.wikipedia vs gu.wikisource [22:05:00] sumanah: thanks, I was reading some mails in i18 mailing list, or probably tech embassadors list, and there were some issues with i20 and Narayam earlier this month [22:06:10] Juandev: all right, and you? [22:06:24] I am ill, cold [22:06:57] 03(mod) Don't use hacks to replicate a browser function, either let align="" pass through or not; in HTML5 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40329 +comment (10Krinkle) [22:07:06] my sympathies, Juandev [22:07:25] oh thx [22:07:54] well, one day I will get better and I can also go to sleep early [22:07:59] Dhaval: so, I see that https://gu.wikisource.org and https://gu.wikipedia.org are both running the same version of MediaWiki, 1.20wmf12 (718e5e2) [22:08:57] Dhaval: so now I am looking to find out whether they have different Gadgets installed ... I know that is often something that causes weirdness [22:09:19] sumanah: thanks for checking, what could be the issue then? when I type in gu.wiki it is quite normal but on gu.wikisource, it is quite slow [22:09:53] Dhaval: so, what gadgets do you have activated on 1 vs the other? [22:09:59] 03(mod) Don't use hacks to replicate a browser function, either let align="" pass through or not; in HTML5 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40329 +comment (10Krinkle) [22:10:23] specifically, Dhaval, which gadgets do you have activated on Gujarati Wikipedia? [22:10:40] (gu.wikisource does not list ANY gadgets in its gadgets definition so you could not have any activated there) [22:11:19] Dhaval: look at https://gu.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%AA%B5%E0%AA%BF%E0%AA%B6%E0%AB%87%E0%AA%B7:%E0%AA%AA%E0%AA%B8%E0%AA%82%E0%AA%A6#mw-prefsection-gadgets [22:11:39] sumanah: gadget-AjaxQuickDelete is the only one activated on gu.wikipedia [22:11:59] ok, so, that can't be it, because you said wp is SLOWER than ws [22:12:20] nope sumanah, its otherway round [22:12:38] ws is slower than wp, and the gadgets are activated on wp only [22:13:52] whoops, that is what I meant [22:15:05] sumanah: so you mean to say gadgets would fasten the speed? [22:16:53] no, it was just a diagnostic thing that didn't work out [22:16:59] sorry for the wrong idea there [22:17:10] sometimes gadgets get in the way [22:17:32] maybe this is just those Narayam problems popping up again [22:17:36] umm yarl [22:17:57] sumanah: no need to feel sorry, I thought it that way, but never know how the mediawiki worked, so just asked [22:18:20] what is replication lag? [22:18:21] Dhaval: I suggest you write to your language support team and i18n mailing list [22:18:43] sumanah: but as you checked, both wp and ws are running the same version, would it still cause the problem? [22:18:53] OK, will write to i18n mailing list [22:19:01] Juandev: it is when there is a backlog of data to replicate from the main WMF servers to the replica databases that people can run queries on [22:19:04] Juandev: the time it takes for master Wikimedia wikis databases to be copied to the Toolserver where they are used by various tools [22:19:29] Dhaval: well, they are running the same version of MediaWiki core but maybe there is some other difference....sorry, I do not know [22:19:31] an 0 seconds is ok? [22:19:46] Juandev: yes, it's great in fact [22:19:48] you could also check both their Special:Version pages to see if there is some other extension that is on 1 of the wikis and not the other [22:19:53] Juandev: 0 seconds is optimal! [22:19:59] sumanah: thanks and no worries...would you like to look into https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40606 [22:20:46] 03(mod) Article name completion/search doesn't work effectively on gu.wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40606 +i18n (10Sumana Harihareswara) [22:20:59] Dhaval: I have to defer to the i18n team on that but I marked it with the i18n keyword so they know to look at it [22:21:54] 03(mod) Article name completion/search doesn't work effectively on gu.wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40606 normal->major; -i18n +shell; +comment (10Dereckson) [22:22:16] sumanah: thanks for your help, much appreciated [22:22:29] Glad I could be of some help, Dhaval! *curtsy* [22:23:35] 03(mod) Article name completion/search doesn't work effectively on gu.wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40606 +i18n; +comment (10Dereckson) [22:23:57] Jasper_Deng_away, did you see what I said in #wm-stewards? [22:24:23] Oh Dhaval you were discussing the issue here too. I understand why I got a bug edit conflict. [22:24:26] Hello here. [22:24:38] Krenair: no, I can't join at the moment [22:24:49] Jasper_Deng, WHOIS can probably be done right now, luxotool will probably have to wait for DB replication before you can write an alternative on labs [22:24:54] Also, AFAIK you can install Python in the Ubuntu VMs which Labs provides [22:24:58] I saw that part [22:25:18] Dereckson: I was discussiong something else with sumanah, and then thoguht to ask her about this bug as well... [22:25:31] and saw at the same time you picked it up... sorry for that [22:25:54] Dereckson: if you are dealign with it, then I am sure it is in right hands :) [22:26:29] I'm sorry I can't help on this one. [22:27:10] The other two were configuration issues, here it seems some debug on the site logs is needed. [22:27:51] If I refer to https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25682 I guess Reedy will be more helpful. [22:29:12] Dereckson: well, thx that you addedd reedy in the CC, he was the one dealing with the earlier bug and bug 25682 too [22:29:54] Dereckson: may I bother you with another issue? gu:ws is slower, especially typing is pretty slower than gu:wp [22:30:12] could it be because Narayam? [22:30:37] Dhaval: it's the same for me with & without narayam enabled. what browser are you using? [22:31:02] IE9 [22:31:26] Matmarex:you're right, I also disabled Narayam, and its the same [22:31:42] And with JS disabled? [22:31:53] MatmaRex: but speed is quite normal on the same browser for wp [22:32:22] how to disable JS dereckson? you mean for the browser or ws? [22:32:31] for your browser [22:32:35] because same browser gives different speed for wp and ws [22:32:37] yeah, it's a good idea to check this [22:32:59] Dhaval, you're using IE? [22:33:18] MatmaRex, but if there is an issue with browser, shouldn't wp be slow equally? [22:33:27] krenair, yes, IE and firefox both [22:33:32] issue is with IE [22:33:35] 03(mod) $wgVectorUseSimpleSearch = false; (Go + Search button) doesn't react on hitting return - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33561 +comment (10Subfader) [22:33:43] But... Why [22:33:51] Dhaval: yes, but checking with javascript disabled will let us know if this is a JS issue or not [22:34:03] MatmaRex, OK, can do that [22:34:33] krenair, that's a million £ question... probably its because of Microsoft [22:36:17] MatmaRex & Dereckson: sorry, couldn't locate where to disable JS, can you tell me if you know for IE9? [22:36:58] Dhaval: try these instructions: http://browsers.about.com/od/internetexplorertutorials/ss/disable-javascript-ie9_2.htm [22:37:38] (heh, they are really well-hidden) [22:39:55] MatmaRex: cool, it worked [22:40:11] (yes, IE considers users don't want to tinker with power users/developers settings) [22:40:20] I mean, with JS disabled, speed got back to normal... so as u doubted, issue is with js [22:42:27] MatmaRex & Dereckson: so it is a strange case, where 1 browsers works differently for WS and WP, while the other works the same way for both [22:42:39] So if the issue is IE and gu.wikisource specific, it means there is a compatibility issue with one of the script used on wikisource and not WP with IE. [22:43:23] Dereckson: that's true, how to identify which script is that and who can do so? [22:43:42] Dhaval: i suggest you report a bug [22:43:52] If you enabled some gadgets, you can logout to see if it comes from a gadget or from the site JS. [22:44:12] Dhaval: once again, which one is slower? [22:44:22] gu.wikisource [22:45:20] MatmaRex: before to fill a bug, it would be helpful to determiner if this is or not related to a specific gadget. [22:46:09] there are no gadgets on gu.ws. [22:46:25] and no mediawiki: .js pages, even [22:46:50] and [[Media [22:47:54] and it's 1 am in my timezone, i'll be heading off soon [22:48:01] let me just check one thing real quick, hm [22:49:01] MatmaRex and Dereckson, I have almost prepared a bug, will file it as soon as you confirm that it is needed [22:50:54] 03(NEW) Add 'values from query' parameter for the 'field' tag - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40629 normal; MediaWiki extensions: SemanticForms; (katkov.juriy) [22:51:19] gu.ws loads no scripts that gu.wp doesn't load. [22:51:19] 03(mod) Add 'values from query' parameter for the 'field' tag - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40629 (10Yury Katkov) [22:53:20] MatmaRex, is it possible that Narayam and font selector could be causing the issue on ws? [22:55:13] MatmaRex/Dereckson: so? file a bug? [22:55:22] i think that in such case we'd see the same on gu.wp [22:55:25] New patchset: Krinkle; "(bug 40448) Replace legacy mwsuggest with mediawiki.searchSuggest" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24681 [22:55:53] gu.wp works perfectly normal on IE9 [22:56:22] New review: Krinkle; "* Addressed issues raised." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24681 [22:57:32] New patchset: Yury Katkov; "(Bug 40629) Add values from query parameter" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticForms] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25755 [22:58:00] Dhaval: is the "slowness" the same everywhere? [22:58:10] as in, search input, page text box, edit summary? [22:58:13] New patchset: Krinkle; "(bug 40448) Replace legacy mwsuggest with mediawiki.searchSuggest" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24681 [22:58:28] yes MatmaRex, it is the same everywhere [22:58:36] New review: Krinkle; "* Rebased" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24681 [23:06:22] 03(NEW) gu.wikisource has become sluggish on IE - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40630 normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (dsvyas) [23:06:32] 03(mod) $wgVectorUseSimpleSearch = false; (Go + Search button) doesn't react on hitting return - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33561 +comment (10Daniel Friesen) [23:06:59] Dhaval: right nowi have no idea what could be causing it [23:07:05] Dhaval: file a bug [23:07:15] MatmaRex, just filed the bug [23:07:19] Dhaval: maybe first, just in case, check if rebooting your browser or your computer fixes the issue [23:07:24] (unlikedly, but... :) ) [23:07:28] unlikely* [23:07:42] MatmaRex, filed the bug https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40630 [23:08:14] MatmaRex: I've been facing this issue for 2 weeks at least, have rebooted several times [23:08:40] alright then [23:09:58] thanks for your time MatmaRex [23:10:02] have a good night [23:11:44] thanks, bye [23:14:46] 03(NEW) Asirra link hardcoded as http, caused mixed content warnings when used over https - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40631 normal; MediaWiki extensions: ConfirmEdit (CAPTCHA extension); (jacoblesser) [23:23:25] New patchset: Krinkle; "(bug 36151) mw.Title: Don't limit extension in title parsing." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25739 [23:23:37] New review: Krinkle; "* Improved unit tests" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25739 [23:25:05] New patchset: Krinkle; "(bug 36151) mw.Title: Don't limit extension in title parsing." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25739 [23:25:32] New review: Krinkle; "* Rebased to add release notes" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25739 [23:26:54] New review: Matmarex; "One more issue I only noticed now, sorry." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24681 [23:26:55] Change merged: Krinkle; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25739 [23:27:12] New patchset: Krinkle; "(bug 36151) mw.Title: Don't limit extension in title parsing." [mediawiki/core] (REL1_20) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25756 [23:27:28] New review: Krinkle; "Merged from master." [mediawiki/core] (REL1_20); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25756 [23:27:29] Change merged: Krinkle; [mediawiki/core] (REL1_20) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25756 [23:31:21] 03(FIXED) mw.Title should not have an extension limit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36151 +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [23:31:42] 03(mod) mw.Title should not have an extension limit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36151 -patch-in-gerrit (10Krinkle) [23:33:15] New patchset: Krinkle; "(bug 40448) Remove enhancements to SimpleSearch (moved to core)." [mediawiki/extensions/Vector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24970 [23:44:15] 03(mod) gu.wikisource has become sluggish on IE - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40630 +performance (10Andre Klapper) [23:44:15] 03(mod) gu.wikisource has become sluggish on IE - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40630 (10Andre Klapper) [23:49:07] 03(mod) gu.wikisource has become sluggish on IE - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40630 +javascript; +comment (10Dereckson) [23:59:23] 03(mod) Some RTL interfaces have incredibly large width, causing horizontal scrollbar to appear - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40609 +comment (10Huji)