[00:01:14] 03(mod) Account creation not being "AntiSpoofed" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/19659 (10spage) [00:11:07] 03(NEW) Errant line break in UploadWizard "Use a different license" option - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40646 normal; MediaWiki extensions: UploadWizard; (dmcdevit) [00:18:17] New code comment: MZMcBride; You meant r97369, not r97639, of course.; [00:29:00] 03(NEW) UploadWizard extension should allow a custom default license for new uploads in "UploadWizard" tab of Special:Preferences - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40647 normal; MediaWiki extensions: UploadWizard; (b) [00:46:56] 03(mod) Wikimedia should become an OpenID provider - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/13631 +comment (10Tim Landscheidt) [00:56:42] 03(mod) Wikimedia should become an OpenID provider - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/13631 +comment (10Tyler Romeo) [01:20:39] 03(mod) jquery.placeholder should (also) hide the placeholder when focussing an empty input field - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40441 +comment (10michiel schweitzer) [01:24:42] New patchset: Parent5446; "(bug 40541) Fixed minor code style problems." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25850 [01:24:56] New review: Parent5446; "See https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25850" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25530 [01:34:29] Specia:RandomPage is not very random for me... it picks some pages very often... and others never.... [01:51:01] 03(NEW) can't validate username against blocking extensions like AntiSpoof - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40648 normal; MediaWiki: User login; (spage) [02:24:12] 03(mod) can't validate username against blocking extensions like AntiSpoof - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40648 +comment (10MZMcBride) [02:24:44] 03(mod) [Regression] style="background:XXXX;" in headers breaks sortable tables - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31755 summary (10Timeshifter) [02:30:31] 03(mod) Table option for static rank order column, or row numbering - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40634 summary (10Timeshifter) [02:32:37] 03(mod) Option for sort indicator to be above or below the table header text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33249 summary (10Timeshifter) [02:34:38] 03(mod) jquery.placeholder should (also) hide the placeholder when focussing an empty input field - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40441 +comment (10Krinkle) [02:52:49] 03(mod) Option for sort indicator to be above or below the table header text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33249 +comment (10Timeshifter) [03:12:23] New review: Krinkle; "We should back this feature out entirely, but this bug fix is welcome for sure." [mediawiki/core] (REL1_20); V: 0 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25643 [03:12:23] Change merged: Krinkle; [mediawiki/core] (REL1_20) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25643 [03:13:10] Change merged: Krinkle; [mediawiki/core] (REL1_20) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25649 [03:14:56] Change merged: Krinkle; [mediawiki/core] (REL1_20) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25670 [03:22:03] 03(mod) File history from shared repository parsed in context of local wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22001 +comment (10Brad Jorsch) [03:56:20] 03(NEW) typo SCRIPT_DEPRECTED -> SCRIPT_DEPRECATED - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40649 minor; MediaWiki extensions: AntiSpoof; (spage) [04:30:26] Change merged: IAlex; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25850 [04:35:07] New patchset: IAlex; "Do not register Special:JavaScriptTest, if disabled" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24821 [04:36:15] New patchset: IAlex; "Do not register Special:JavaScriptTest, if disabled" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24821 [04:50:04] Change merged: IAlex; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24821 [04:54:03] Cloning into 'core'... [04:54:04] error: RPC failed; result=22, HTTP code = 503 [04:54:04] fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly [04:54:06] hmm [06:09:07] 03(mod) typo SCRIPT_DEPRECTED -> SCRIPT_DEPRECATED - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40649 (10spage) [06:15:12] 03(mod) gu.wikisource has become sluggish on IE - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40630 +comment (10Srikanth Logic) [06:18:44] New patchset: Spage; "cleared to log mw.user.id()" [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25852 [06:51:04] New patchset: Mwjames; "Fix autoloader entry" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25853 [06:51:25] Change merged: Mwjames; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25853 [06:55:46] Change merged: Ori.livneh; [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25852 [07:11:31] Hey! There seems to be a preview feature for PDF on Wikimedia Commons. How is this done? On my installation, PDF files have no preview. [07:12:00] aurimai: Probably some extension. See what extensions are installed on Wikimedia. [07:16:08] 03(mod) gu.wikisource has become sluggish on IE - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40630 +comment (10Dereckson) [07:16:12] aurimai: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:PdfHandler [07:21:17] 03(mod) Auto-categorize pages that contain invalid HTML - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40633 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [07:32:42] New review: Katie Horn; "Got the greenlight over here. Merging." [mediawiki/extensions/FundraiserLandingPage] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25726 [07:32:42] Change merged: Katie Horn; [mediawiki/extensions/FundraiserLandingPage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25726 [07:32:42] New review: Spage; "odd program flow at the end, or it's late" [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master); V: 0 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25763 [07:33:44] New patchset: Matthias Mullie; "accidentally removed config var" [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25854 [07:34:17] Change merged: Matthias Mullie; [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25854 [07:40:21] 03(NEW) [SMW] 1.8; Intro/Outro in Special:Ask causes fatal Call to a member function getMaxIncludeSize() on a non-object - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40650 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; (jamesin.hongkong.1) [07:46:37] New patchset: Dereckson; "(bug 40649) Improving AntiSpoof tests. Fixing typo." [mediawiki/extensions/AntiSpoof] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25856 [07:49:06] New patchset: Mwjames; "(bug 40650) Fix getMaxIncludeSize() on a non-object in Special:Ask" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25857 [07:49:32] 03(mod) Article Feedback 5 - Abuse filter issues for common vandalism - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37615 +comment (10Matthias Mullie) [07:50:14] 03(FIXED) [SMW] 1.8; Intro/Outro in Special:Ask causes fatal Call to a member function getMaxIncludeSize() on a non-object - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40650 +comment (10MWJames) [07:51:48] 03(mod) typo SCRIPT_DEPRECTED -> SCRIPT_DEPRECATED - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40649 +comment (10Dereckson) [07:54:05] New patchset: Dereckson; "(bug 40649) Improving AntiSpoof tests. Fixing typo." [mediawiki/extensions/AntiSpoof] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25856 [07:54:41] New review: Dereckson; "PS2: git commit --amend --author="S Page "" [mediawiki/extensions/AntiSpoof] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25856 [08:05:20] 03(FIXED) Semantic Result Formats RSS does not validate against W3C - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32814 +comment (10MWJames) [08:10:33] New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Add funnel / progress tracking to community portal" [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25763 [08:10:41] New patchset: Matthias Mullie; "Improve AFT permissions" [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25492 [08:10:54] Change merged: Ori.livneh; [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25763 [08:22:13] 03(NEW) Special:CreateProperty with an empty label will fail in a confusing way - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40651 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; (tobias.gritschacher) [08:32:04] New patchset: Matthias Mullie; "remove redundant script to fetch missing i18n messages" [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25858 [08:46:34] 03(NEW) Invalid titles can be saved as sitelinks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40652 major; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; (daniel.kinzler) [08:50:15] 03(mod) SQLStore3 not yet working? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40402 (10MWJames) [09:00:32] hey if i want to create a repository of a directory i have on my web server from which i am running media wiki, how do i do that? [09:00:55] now when i try to access it as mywiki/path to directory, it says you dont have permission to access this file [09:02:02] hey please, can anyone help? [09:13:06] hey can anyone help me navigate through folders in media wiki. the folder is present in the web server where i am hosting my media wiki from but for some reason it keeps saying you do not have permission to access this folder [09:19:33] anyone there? [09:22:55] can anyone help me out with repository in media wiki. [09:27:02] 03(mod) Getting Jenkins working for Wikibase extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40623 (10Lydia Pintscher) [09:33:02] New patchset: Jens Ohlig; "(Bug #40550): Addresses issues raised in https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40550#c2" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25859 [09:33:07] 03(NEW) Consider using canonical parser options for Content::getParserOutput() - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40653 normal; MediaWiki: ContentHandler; (daniel.kinzler) [09:34:29] 03(mod) $wgVectorUseSimpleSearch = false; (Go + Search button) doesn't react on hitting return - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33561 +comment (10Subfader) [09:40:23] New patchset: Mwjames; "(bug 39967) Fix Call to a member function getFullURL() on a non-object" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25860 [09:43:53] does resourceloader use memcache at some point? Didn't really find anything but someone told me it would [09:46:15] 03(NEW) Fix usage of makeParserOptions in ApiParse - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40654 normal; MediaWiki: ContentHandler; (daniel.kinzler) [09:47:51] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "Thanks for your input!" [mediawiki/core] (Wikidata); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25736 [10:01:41] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "(bug 40231) selenium tests for properties [DO NOT MERGE]" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25861 [10:02:06] New review: Tobias Gritschacher; "not ready for merging yet, still some work to do" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25861 [10:03:08] New patchset: Daniel Werner; "Added SitesModule to load site data" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25545 [10:04:09] Change merged: Daniel Werner; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25545 [10:12:01] New patchset: Daniel Werner; "SitesModule will work with $wgLegacyJavaScriptGlobals = false; now" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25862 [10:12:37] Hi : I have a page with sections, and sub-sections. Some sub-sections have the same name, but belong to differents sections : If I make an "internal link" to one of thoses sub-sections, it only eads to the first subsections with that name : is there a way to link to the 2nd sub-sections ? or do I have to change my sub-title ? [10:13:15] New patchset: Henning Snater; "moving general variables to wikibase autocomplete widget" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25863 [10:13:16] New patchset: Henning Snater; "porting functionality to autocomplete widget" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25864 [10:15:14] New patchset: Jens Ohlig; "(Bug #40550): Addresses issues raised in https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40550#c2" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25859 [10:18:17] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "(bug 40231) selenium tests for properties [DO NOT MERGE]" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25861 [10:22:11] Change merged: Daniel Werner; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25863 [10:24:08] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "works" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25859 [10:24:08] Change merged: Daniel Kinzler; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25859 [10:24:35] 03(mod) let empty metadata-elements pass through tidy - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27786 +comment (10Bergi) [10:30:09] Change merged: Daniel Kinzler; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25630 [10:30:43] New patchset: Daniel Werner; "SitesModule will work with $wgLegacyJavaScriptGlobals = false; now" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25862 [10:31:47] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25862 [10:36:36] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Stylize" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25866 [10:38:08] 03(NEW) Sites resource loader module's cache should be invalidated when site config changes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40655 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; (Danweetz) [10:39:19] 03(NEW) Test coverage of JavaScript QUnit tests - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40656 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Wikidata; (Danweetz) [10:41:54] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "Require token for EditEntity::attemptSave." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25867 [10:42:44] 03(NEW) Auto-generated documentation for JavaScript code based on already existing doxygen comments - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40657 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; (Danweetz) [10:54:46] New review: VitaliyFilippov; "Call doesn't need to be updated - this hook already passes arguments as references. Older PHP forced..." [mediawiki/extensions/Drafts] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25627 [10:55:56] 03(FIXED) Check insertDefaultSites in Utils.php (2) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40551 +comment (10Jens Ohlig) [11:02:29] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "The general "read" permission is already being checked as per Api::getRequiredPermissions(). I don't..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25547 [11:08:36] New patchset: VitaliyFilippov; "Fix a bug: drafts didn't show up when creating new pages" [mediawiki/extensions/Drafts] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25629 [11:08:37] New patchset: VitaliyFilippov; "Always display user's drafts on the edit form." [mediawiki/extensions/Drafts] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25628 [11:08:37] New patchset: VitaliyFilippov; "Fix for PHP 5.4: add & to function prototype" [mediawiki/extensions/Drafts] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25627 [11:08:37] New patchset: VitaliyFilippov; "Use newer tooltipAndAccesskeyAttribs function instead of deprecated ones." [mediawiki/extensions/Drafts] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25626 [11:13:57] New review: Jens Ohlig; "Although strictly not necessary, this can also be reflected in the regex in lib/maintenance/pollForC..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25489 [11:14:32] New patchset: Jens Ohlig; "for consistency, use ~ in getType()" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25489 [11:15:13] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25857 [11:15:43] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "Test that API modules fail on missing read right." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25869 [11:17:01] Change merged: Jens Ohlig; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25507 [11:17:10] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "Note: consider basing any follow-up on Idb009c0d" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25547 [11:21:27] 03(NEW) CheckUserLog API: Support for query continue - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40658 normal; MediaWiki extensions: CheckUser; (Amalthea.wikimedia) [11:28:02] Hi all. I use hook "ArticleViewHeader" to add a message on top of all discussion pages. Since I enabled extension LiquidThreads the hook is no longer called on discussion pages. Anyone knows why? [11:30:23] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "RepoHooks::onWikibaseRebuildData and RepoHooks::onWikibaseDeleteData reference the old variable:" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25511 [11:31:42] 03(mod) Special:CreateProperty already in use - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40635 normal->04CRIT; +comment (10[[kgh]]) [11:31:47] Change merged: Daniel Werner; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25864 [11:33:35] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Got rid of now redundant class name prefixes" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25871 [11:35:55] No one? [11:37:14] Which hook(s) could I use besides "ArticleViewHeader" to add HTML on top of a page? [11:38:01] hashar: i added you as reviwere to the provlematic tests [11:38:26] Nikerabbit: hello :) The one you were talking about last week on wikitech-l I bet? [11:38:39] yep [11:41:44] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Got rid of now redundant class name prefixes" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25871 [11:42:57] bah my Gerrit dashboard is SOOO messy https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/dashboard/24 [11:50:37] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Got rid of now redundant class name prefixes" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25871 [11:51:01] 03(mod) Check permissions on read (3) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40557 +comment (10Daniel Kinzler) [11:53:13] 04(REOPENED) Inconsistent state within the internal storage backends - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39221 +comment (10billinghurst) [11:53:33] hashar: seen mine? https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/dashboard/93 [11:53:57] Nikerabbit: even moaar messy :-] [11:54:53] New patchset: Jens Ohlig; "(Bug #40553): pass the audience explicitly, so it's obvious you're grabbing the public version" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25872 [12:00:37] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "Optional parameter followed by a required one??" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25872 [12:01:30] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "Allow ORMTable to access a foreign wiki." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25264 [12:08:13] New patchset: Jens Ohlig; "(Bug #40553): pass the audience explicitly, so it's obvious you're grabbing the public version" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25872 [12:10:40] !seen sumanah [12:10:53] no bots? bleh [12:25:28] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Fix type hints (bug 40402)" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25873 [12:25:47] New patchset: Mwjames; "(bug 39967) Fix Call to a member function getFullURL() on a non-object" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25860 [12:26:05] 03(mod) SQLStore3 not yet working? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40402 +comment (10Jeroen De Dauw) [12:27:15] 03(mod) SQLStore3 not yet working? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40402 +comment (10Jeroen De Dauw) [12:36:41] 03(mod) Wikimedia should become an OpenID provider - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/13631 +comment (10John Du Hart) [12:38:36] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25860 [12:41:26] 03(ASSIGNED) Fatal error: Call to a member function getFullURL() on a non-object - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39967 +comment (10MWJames) [12:42:14] hay. [12:42:43] What is the best method to change an username on a MW installation ? [12:43:28] !e RenameUser [12:43:28] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:RenameUser [12:43:35] tnx Reedy [12:48:55] New patchset: Reedy; "jquery.byteLimit: Rewrite (fix bug 38158, bug 38163)" [mediawiki/core] (REL1_20) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25874 [12:49:31] 03(FIXED) jquery.byteLimit sometimes causes an unexpected 0 maxLength being enforced - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38158 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [12:50:50] 04(REOPENED) jquery.byteLimit sometimes causes an unexpected 0 maxLength being enforced - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38158 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [12:51:21] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "(bug 40231) selenium tests for properties [DO NOT MERGE]" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25861 [12:52:03] 03(mod) Semantic Search produces invalid links for ModSecurity (the WAF) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35203 +comment (10MWJames) [12:58:16] 03(mod) Wikimedia should become an OpenID provider - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/13631 +comment (10Tyler Romeo) [12:59:16] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "(bug 40231) selenium tests for properties [DO NOT MERGE]" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25861 [13:00:10] New review: Nischayn22; "Hey, I remember this has been fixed by https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/19378/ along with the cont..." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25873 [13:00:39] New review: Tobias Gritschacher; "has to be verified on test machine" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25861 [13:02:27] 03(ASSIGNED) SQLStore3 not yet working? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40402 +comment (10Nischay Nahata) [13:03:33] 03(mod) CheckUserLog API: Support for query continue - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40658 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [13:07:01] 03(mod) No results in file formats on Special:Ask or Special:Query Creator - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36947 +comment (10MWJames) [13:08:33] New review: Jossmart; "I hope it's ok publishing it. I'm trying to learn the workflow on this simple extension. No experie..." [mediawiki/extensions/URNames] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/21185 [13:10:04] New review: Jossmart; "I hope it's ok publishing it. I'm trying to learn the workflow on this simple extension. No experie..." [mediawiki/extensions/URNames] (master); V: 0 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/21185 [13:11:19] New review: Jossmart; "Third attempt ..." [mediawiki/extensions/URNames] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/21185 [13:11:20] Change merged: Jossmart; [mediawiki/extensions/URNames] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/21185 [13:12:19] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Added common interface for obtaining the "simple" representation of the DataValue" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25875 [13:12:22] Change abandoned: Daniel Werner; "Too much bikeshed going on over this. After four months of trying to make it right for everybody I j..." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/8924 [13:13:24] New review: Toniher; "I made this change for avoiding problems with generated option fields" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticForms] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25735 [13:14:15] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "Then maybe have this merged now and remove it from the other commit?" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25873 [13:23:18] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "(bug 40231) selenium tests for properties [DO NOT MERGE]" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25861 [13:40:15] Hey mediawiki devs, I'm Sergiu from XWiki and we were thinking about proposing a devroom about wikis for next year's FOSDEM; would you be interested in participating? [13:41:45] sdumitriu: They almost certainly will be, however it is 0641 in San Francisco (a nexus point of MW developers) [13:42:07] ^ [13:42:11] ahah indeed good point :) (I'm from XWiki too) [13:42:25] only issue is that the deadline is today for submitting a devroom proposal [13:42:50] Oh dear. What time today utc? [13:42:51] so we need to hurry but provided we see some interest we can go ahead and propose it [13:43:03] I guess utc yes [13:43:16] vmassol: There's usually a good handful of european WMF-ers and MW-ers that attend... [13:43:35] Reedy: ok so you're saying we can count on MW guys, cool [13:43:54] Yeah [13:44:52] people always talk about fosdem....... [13:45:00] not sure anything happens [13:45:16] trying to ping foswiki guys now, we'd like to put in the proposal that we've contacted several communities and that they said they're interested…. [13:45:25] No, a bunch of people go. But PHP gets pretty short shrift at fosdem, aude. [13:45:34] Amgine: :( [13:46:11] PHP is the worst/ [13:46:17] evil! [13:46:21] :P [13:48:23] Hello all! I was wondering if there was a list somewhere of html behaviors that were changed between 1.18 and 1.19 in wikicode [13:49:11] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "added missing call to parent getId" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25877 [13:51:39] For example, align="center" went from center aligning a div layer or table to center aligning all text contained inside. I know better, but I'm going to have to run a bot to fix all the old bad code and having a list would be handy [13:53:27] slow internets are slow [13:53:47] Ulfr: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?p=mediawiki/core.git;a=blob;f=RELEASE-NOTES-1.19;h=f219df1832fba8d9d8298d56f54af843a508838f;hb=REL1_19 [13:54:27] Reedy: Thanks a lot! [14:01:39] New patchset: Hashar; "test RL modules files exists" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24564 [14:04:19] Reedy: Sorry to bother again, but what potential bad things could happen if I set $wgCleanupPresentationalAttributes to false? [14:05:00] New review: Hashar; "Patchset 4 rewrite the provider to use the resource loader directly which already implements all the..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24564 [14:05:00] Nikerabbit: I rewrote the test you wrote to check for resource loader file existence: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/24564/ [14:05:08] Nikerabbit: now using the resource loader to provide a list of files [14:05:27] Ulfr: At first guess, as we're wanting to remove it, not a lot.. https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40632 [14:06:06] Reedy: Can you comment on the bug on my behalf? Something simple like 'Very yes.' [14:06:15] That bloody variable completely tanked my weekend [14:06:22] :/ [14:07:00] Well, that and CentOS being older than I realized :P [14:07:25] Computers suck [14:07:33] Concur [14:08:07] New patchset: Matthias Mullie; "implement CAS in BagOStuff" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25879 [14:08:23] New review: Matthias Mullie; "still very much WIP" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25879 [14:08:57] 03(mod) Hide signature button from edit toolbar in main namespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/5645 +comment (10Andrew Gray) [14:08:58] New review: Reedy; "What's cas?" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25879 [14:12:35] New patchset: Daniel Werner; "Added EntityView::getHtmlForEditSection()" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25880 [14:12:37] New review: Matthias Mullie; "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compare-and-swap - prevent race conditions when heavily writing to caches" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25879 [14:13:11] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25877 [14:15:21] New patchset: Matthias Mullie; "[RDBStore] Added sharded, external, DB support." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16696 [14:16:23] New patchset: Daniel Werner; "Added EntityView::getHtmlForEditSection()" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25880 [14:16:45] 03(NEW) label & description input field stay disabled when editing the value twice in a row without reloading the page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40659 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; (tobias.gritschacher) [14:18:10] 03(mod) Kill $wgCleanupPresentationalAttributes from MediaWiki core - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40632 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [14:20:40] New review: Demon; "It should be renamed something that makes more sense to callers then. I would never remember what ->..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25879 [14:22:43] Change merged: Henning Snater; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25880 [14:22:58] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "(bug 40231) selenium tests for properties [DO NOT MERGE]" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25861 [14:23:38] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "(bug 40231) selenium tests for properties" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25861 [14:25:56] New patchset: Matthias Mullie; "Refactor AFT backend" [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24264 [14:27:20] New review: Matthias Mullie; "I tend to disagree, the native memcached/apc/.. php implementations all use "cas" as well:" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25879 [14:27:33] New review: Parent5446; "Come on. Implement everything EXCEPT memcached." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25879 [14:28:53] New review: Demon; "Just because the native implementations call it cas() doesn't make it a good name for us :)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25879 [14:32:14] 03(NEW) ResourceLoader breaks " " in Javascript literals - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40660 normal; MediaWiki: ResourceLoader; (b-jorsch) [14:38:06] New patchset: Jens Ohlig; "for consistency, use ~ in getType()" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25489 [14:39:02] New review: Jens Ohlig; "Rebased." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25489 [14:39:02] Change merged: Jens Ohlig; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25489 [14:40:59] Hi, does anyone know whether there is a way to use a upload file field in MediaWiki forms (http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/HTMLForm) I'm using HTMLTextField and Type file, the field is created, but no upload seems to happen [14:42:05] New review: Hashar; "The test file is using windows end of line. You could use a PHPUnit provider to feed a test functio..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22936 [14:45:04] New review: Hashar; "I am stepping out of reviewing this one. I guess Reedy will have the final word." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/10378 [14:45:04] New review: Reedy; "Long live svn:eol-style native" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22936 [14:47:29] 03(mod) PHP Notice: Undefined index: href in /www/w/skins/Vector.php on line 416 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38334 +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger) [14:50:55] New patchset: Reedy; "* (bug 39665) List of query generators is now not built using reflection , instead it is defined in code." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22936 [14:51:08] 03(mod) [Regression] jquery.localize tests are failing in IE6-8 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40598 +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger) [14:52:50] <^demon> Dantman: You know better than to ask that. jidanni doesn't use a browser that supports CSS ;-) [14:53:15] lol... but then how does he see red ;) [14:53:21] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "added test for item label/description uniqueness" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25882 [14:54:00] <^demon|away> Dantman: Not a clue :p [14:55:26] New patchset: Hashar; "whitelisting publicly readable title with regex" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11137 [14:58:32] grmbbll Title.php is so big that it makes vim slowdown :/ [15:01:56] Is there any way to make Tidy happy? Or will it always frown upon my paltry efforts [15:04:06] New review: Hashar; "PS33 rewrite commit message." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11137 [15:12:41] It's time for a monthly status spree [15:12:45] just did https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Beta_cluster [15:12:52] * Reedy kicks git review [15:13:48] plop [15:14:10] New patchset: Reedy; "* (bug 39665) List of query generators is now not built using reflection, instead it is defined in code." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22936 [15:16:25] 03(mod) ResourceLoader breaks " " in Javascript literals - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40660 +comment (10Niklas Laxström) [15:17:25] Hi, I guess there's no work around for using mediawiki with PHP5.3.1? [15:18:32] hi FIQ [15:18:48] hi sumanah [15:19:44] FIQ: I'm looking at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Installation_requirements and I do not see a workaround..... [15:20:04] FIQ: it looks like you should upgrade your PHP installation [15:20:08] indeed [15:20:15] tell that to my server provider :p [15:20:19] FIQ: you could also write to the mediawiki-l mailing list to ask for suggestions in case no one responds here [15:20:22] !lists | FIQ [15:20:22] FIQ: mediawiki-l and wikitech-l are the primary mailing lists for MediaWiki-related issues. See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mailing_lists for details. [15:20:36] maybe http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Download should also mention "except for 5.3.1" as it only states "requires PHP 5.2.3+" right now [15:21:13] go ahead, change it, andre__ [15:21:24] well, "MediaWiki cannot be used with PHP 5.3.1 due to a bug involving reference parameters to __call(). Upgrade to PHP 5.3.2 or higher, or downgrade to PHP 5.3.0 to resolve this. Installation aborted." is what I get during configuration [15:21:37] so I guess 5.3.1 indeed is exempt from that [15:22:27] I'll attempt to contact them about it again, and in case they decide to once again ignore my mail, I'll come back probably [15:23:21] (Another problem with the install is that magic_quotes_runtime is enabled, but I guess it can be disabled for mediawiki specifically) [15:23:48] haven't really looked into it as I see upgrading to latest 5.3.x or at least to something else than 5.3.1 as first prio atm [15:27:54] 03(mod) Wikimedia should become an OpenID provider - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/13631 +comment (10Bryan Tong Minh) [15:30:26] FIQ: Do you have options for which OS your servers use? I'm willing to bet you could prolly find a newer distro that would cooperate [15:31:23] 04(REOPENED) Advanced Formatting for Query Tables - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22037 +comment (10Sal Quintanilla) [15:31:44] Ubuntu release or LTS should be alright [15:32:32] Reedy: Where were you when I thought CentOS was a good idea? [15:32:45] I've no idea [15:32:52] We moved from RedHat based OS' a long time ago ;) [15:33:28] seems to be ubuntu 10.04 LTS [15:34:01] I've SSH access (not root though) to the server and has viewed stuff, it seems that they simply need to update the php package, they just.. didn't do it [15:34:13] and my site is the only one on it [15:34:25] so it's not a compatibility issue either [15:34:31] They.. just ignored me D: [15:34:40] Hopefully it was a mistake on their side, I sent a new mail [15:35:12] support ticket ftw. [15:35:34] * Ulfr suspects FIQ was placed in the 'ignore it until it goes away' queue [15:36:13] Ulfr: I have had many discussion with them regarding different things which has proceed mostly smooth, so I hope they just missed it [15:36:29] Oh, absolutely. Coming from a support background I'm a little jaded [15:38:10] sumanah: Is there any chance you can set the channel monitoring bot to kick me anytime this occurs? Ulfr:*upgrade* [15:41:59] 10.04 might be a bit old php version wise [15:42:29] 5.3.2 is still better than 5.3.1 though [15:42:30] afk [15:43:22] New patchset: Reedy; "* (bug 39665) List of query generators is now not built using reflection, instead it is defined in code." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22936 [15:43:22] New patchset: Subramanya Sastry; "Added test to allow "|" char between url and text in extlinks." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25883 [15:43:26] is that what it has? [15:43:33] 5.3.2 is fine for 1.20 [15:44:36] New patchset: Matthias Mullie; "implement CAS in BagOStuff" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25879 [15:44:50] Reedy: I suspect he's stuck with 5.3.1 [15:45:03] Ulfr: sorry, I don't modify the bot at all, not sure I have the relevant privs [15:45:23] sumanah: Quite alright, was just being facetious. [15:45:30] :) [15:45:31] New review: Reedy; "Tests simplified to one loop." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22936 [15:45:34] np :) [15:46:09] New patchset: Henning Snater; "edit links for non-JS [DO NOT SUBMIT YET]" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25884 [15:46:42] Just not so sure my liver could handle another upgrade anytime this year. [15:47:10] Reedy: i have 5.3.1 but if IIRC the version available was 5.3.2 [15:47:15] in the repositories, that is [15:47:21] -if [15:47:32] Yup [15:47:32] http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=php5-mysql&searchon=names&suite=lucidsection=all [15:47:38] FIQ: It's entirely possible your service provider has frozen repos [15:47:41] 5.3.2-1ubuntu4.1 [15:47:49] 5.3.2-1ubuntu4.18 [15:58:47] 03(mod) Semantic Search produces invalid links for ModSecurity (the WAF) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35203 +comment (10Hans Meiser) [16:09:11] New review: Umherirrender; "I love "one thing, one test", sometimes you can see the problem from the name of the test. And many ..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22936 [16:10:50] New patchset: Matthias Mullie; "Refactor AFT backend" [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24264 [16:11:54] 03(mod) Advanced Formatting for Query Tables - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22037 +comment (10Jack D. Pond) [16:17:28] New patchset: IAlex; "Convert valign HTML attribute into inline CSS" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25885 [16:18:16] Are there any (current/working) backup scripts easily available? The one at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Fullsitebackup hasn't been touched in 5 years - not sure if it was still usable or not, or if a better/newer one existed. [16:19:04] Q_Continuum: I think the usual path is manual backup, so I'm not sure there is one. I'll look, sec. [16:19:10] (PS, nice nick) [16:19:15] Heh, thanks. [16:19:26] Been using it for about a decade now. [16:19:36] sumanah: We've been boarded by an alien presence [16:19:45] marktraceur: indeed! [16:20:10] * sumanah remembers being very surprised at seeing John de Lancie in "Breaking Bad" [16:20:15] Would love to have an automated system for the new 'test' wiki. (That will become production as soon as I remind the requesters for the site that it exists, and preferrably after I get LDAP auth working) [16:20:59] Q_Continuum: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Backing_up_a_wiki#Scripts seems to be helpful-ish [16:21:16] Dump the database, backup the image files [16:21:20] It's not exactly difficult [16:21:27] also, a couple quick questions, Q_Continuum - have you heard of Wikimedia Labs? are you on any of the wikimedia.org mailing lists? [16:21:30] Just backup the whole file tree for even more ease [16:21:35] Yeah. I just figured why re-invent the wheel? [16:21:48] One tar line and one mysqldump line? ;) [16:21:56] and maybe another to combine them [16:22:12] sumanah: I have heard of the Labs, and I was checking to see if I was on the release mailing list, beyond that, no. [16:22:17] !lists | Q_Continuum [16:22:17] Q_Continuum: mediawiki-l and wikitech-l are the primary mailing lists for MediaWiki-related issues. See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mailing_lists for details. [16:22:26] 03(NEW) Add watch star to items in Special:UserContributions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40661 enhancement; MediaWiki: Special pages; (earle) [16:22:31] and Q_Continuum you might enjoy having a Labs account for a hosted dev env to play with [16:23:35] 03(mod) Publish Bugzilla customizations on Gerrit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40642 +comment (10Daniel Zahn) [16:23:41] Eh, I'm setting up one at home as well, and can spin up VMs at work or at home as needed. (Not a programmer, just a sysadmin of everything) [16:24:19] I was told to set up a wiki, and decided LDAP auth would be more useful than having to manage more user accounts. No other extensions planned so far. [16:24:19] I want to ask a question related to Mediawiki URLs to articles. Let's take for example this URL http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D1%F2%EE%EB%EE%ED%E0%F7%E0%EB%FC%ED%E8%EA <=== this as shown by decodeURI in Chrome for example, is a malformed URI, however, it is resolved to the right page. On the other hand, if we take the actual name of the article which is Столоначальник , and we encodeURI that one, we get the following link which [16:24:34] 03(NEW) Can't create a new gerrit-stats report - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40662 normal; Analytics: ReportCard; (quimgil) [16:26:06] average_drifter, the following link which...? [16:26:08] average_drifter: Your line cut off, in case you didn't notice :) [16:26:26] 03(mod) Advanced Formatting for Query Tables - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22037 +comment (10Sal Quintanilla) [16:26:56] < average_drifter> I want to ask a question related to Mediawiki URLs to articles. Let's take for example this URL http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D1%F2%EE%EB%EE%ED%E0%F7%E0%EB%FC%ED%E8%EA <=== this as shown by decodeURI in Chrome [16:27:00] for example, is a malformed URI, however, t is resolved to the right page. On the other hand, if we take the actual name of the article which is Столоначальник , and wie encodeURI that one, we get the following [16:27:05] link which is a valid URI ( ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D1%82%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%87%D0%B0%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA ) and resolves to the same one as before. But these two URIs are fundamentally different, yet they resolve to the same place. Can someone please describe how Mediawiki resolves these and what happens behind the curtain ? [16:27:07] Q_Continuum: got it. might you be submitting https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:LdapAuthentication patches? [16:27:12] 03(mod) Publish Bugzilla customizations on Gerrit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40642 +comment (10Daniel Zahn) [16:27:20] do you see the question mark in my last message ? if so, it means that the message got through [16:27:25] @ Krenair , @ marktraceur [16:27:30] sumanah: I doubt I'll be submitting patches, I was just planning to add it in and try it. [16:27:30] I see it now [16:27:34] thanks [16:27:34] Though I don't know how it works [16:27:45] sumanah: (hoping) it works fine as-is :-D [16:27:48] Q_Continuum: ok, no problem, just wanted to offer you the option in case you wanted to :) [16:27:50] 03(FIXED) drop unused fields recentchanges.rc_moved_to_ns and recentchanges.rc_moved_to_title - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34960 +comment (10Umherirrender) [16:28:14] sumanah: If I get to that point, it means something went Horribly Wrong (TM) [16:28:18] :-D [16:28:52] Ha! [16:29:43] Which I want to avoid as much as possible. Main projects are backups for the whole server stack, and migrating ~50 servers with 10TB of data cross-country and update the software stack within at the same time. [16:30:12] omg [16:30:14] Create new stack, similar to old stack, migrate data. Weeee! Oh, and learn new tools as I go. (Zabbix, Puppet) [16:30:56] I presume you're happy where you are? https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Job_openings ;-) [16:31:01] Yes. [16:31:21] glad to hear it. best of luck with the project, see you again when you gloat in triumph :) [16:31:47] Heh, I will be terribly happy when that migration is done. Of course, then I'll own the environment, and the job will really just be starting... [16:37:35] 03(mod) Can't create a new gerrit-stats report - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40662 +comment (10Dan Andreescu) [16:38:08] average_drifter: Would you mind explaining why the first URL-encoded version was malformed? [16:38:48] Can i install MediaWiki on the root of the server, or does it have to be a subdirectory? [16:39:31] I would recommend subdirectories, but you can do that [16:39:44] I mean, can i install it in my /public_html folder? [16:40:15] Because i have a host that runs Apache. [16:40:49] marktraceur: I found it in logs on stat1 [16:40:52] Okay. [16:41:12] marktraceur: I have no idea why it is malformed but it is something that someone actually accessed at some point so it ended up in logs [16:42:21] So, how do i remove the /index.php/ from the URL? Do i have to edit files? My host doesn't have CGI, and i don't have root access. [16:42:40] !shorturls | therocketmaster [16:42:40] therocketmaster: To create simple URLs (such as the /wiki/PAGENAME style URLs on Wikimedia sites), follow the instructions at or try the new beta tool at . There are instructions for most different webserver setups. If you have problems getting the rewrite rules to work, see !rewriteproblem [16:43:00] average_drifter: Wait, so is it malformed or not? [16:43:37] marktraceur: it is malformed for sure, but it works [16:43:55] average_drifter: In what way is it malformed? [16:43:57] marktraceur: that is the short version of the question => "Why is this malformed URL working and how is it resolved to the actual page ?" [16:44:13] marktraceur: it's malformed as in decodeURI says it's malformed [16:44:18] Oh [16:44:33] marktraceur: CTRL+SHIFT+I in your Chrome and write decodeURI(); [16:44:40] marktraceur: and you'll get "Malformed URI" [16:44:41] Hm, interesting [16:44:55] average_drifter: I use free software, so I'm using Firebug, but I see the same thing [16:44:59] Let me experiment [16:45:23] former mozilla consultant here [16:50:28] New review: Aude; "When doing a fresh install of MW + Wikibase repo (running maintenance/update.php), I get the followi..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25509 [16:52:07] 03(mod) Use http get with https whenever possible (2) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40550 +comment (10Aude) [16:56:27] New patchset: Reedy; "Bug 38955 - Don't include job_timestamp in checks for duplicate jobs" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25888 [16:58:01] 03(FIXED) Don't include job_timestamp in checks for duplicate jobs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38955 summary; +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [17:02:16] 03(mod) OOM while thumbnailing huge progressive / interlaced JPEGs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/17645 (10Nemo_bis) [17:02:19] 03(NEW) Add interlace info to file metadata - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40663 enhancement; MediaWiki: File management; (federicoleva) [17:06:58] 03(mod) Advanced Formatting for Query Tables - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22037 +comment (10Jack D. Pond) [17:14:15] 03(mod) Connectivity interferes with saved articles (saved pages do not work offline) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40013 +comment (10Jon) [17:14:27] New patchset: Aude; "eliminate type prefix from entity change update files" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25890 [17:15:42] 03(mod) ResourceLoaderWikiModule should not convert " " to spaces - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40660 normal->major; summary (10Krinkle) [17:16:03] 03(ASSIGNED) [Regression] jquery.localize tests are failing in IE6-8 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40598 (10Krinkle) [17:16:45] New review: Krinkle; "Pending review/merge in master (same change-id)." [mediawiki/core] (REL1_20); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25874 [17:18:16] Hi! [17:18:31] Someone here good at making skins for mediawiki's ? [17:19:10] Umeaboy: Surely someone is, ask a question! :) [17:19:19] OK. [17:19:48] 03(mod) ResourceLoaderWikiModule should not convert " " to spaces for pages in the MediaWiki-namespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40660 summary; +comment (10Krinkle) [17:19:59] I don't have any money to offer, but if someone would consider helping out to make a unique skin for my mediawiki I'd be so happy & greatfull. [17:20:46] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Some fixed to the ValueValidators" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25891 [17:21:35] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Some fixed to the ValueValidators" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25891 [17:27:19] Change abandoned: awjrichards; "(no reason)" [mediawiki/extensions/cldr] (iso-3166-2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/18708 [17:30:15] Umeaboy: if you write out a specification someplace, like a subpage of your mediawiki.org userpage, then you could post a link here [17:30:17] 03(mod) Can't create a new gerrit-stats report - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40662 +comment (10Quim Gil) [17:31:21] 03(NEW) Unable to get template arguments through API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40664 enhancement; MediaWiki: API; (christopher.down) [17:31:52] 03(mod) Diffs on recent changes feed should have the same formatting of the on wiki diffs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34798 +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger) [17:31:55] 03(mod) Patrol log should refer to the user performing the action instead of the user who made the patrolled edit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34495 +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger) [17:31:56] 03(mod) wfprofilein Errors on upgrading to 1.19 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32760 +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger) [17:32:48] 06(LATER) MobileFrontend extension doesn't load MediaWiki:Common.css - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34325 +comment (10Jon) [17:33:27] sumanah: Uuuuuuuuuhm. It's not out yet. I've built the database for it thou. [17:33:41] 03(mod) Unable to get template arguments through API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40664 +comment (10Chris Down) [17:34:07] Umeaboy: What do you mean when you say it's not out yet? certainly you already have ideas about what you want in a skin, so you just write those ideas down [17:35:37] 03(mod) PHP Notice: Undefined index: href in /www/w/skins/Vector.php on line 416 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38334 +comment (10Nemo_bis) [17:36:13] Question: Is it possible & feasible to set up multiple seperate wikis off one installed copy on a server? (So one doesn't have to maintain multiple installs) [17:36:35] sumanah: Uuuuuuuhm. I haven't made it public yet. And I know somewhat what I want it to look like. [17:36:44] !farm | Q_Continuum [17:36:44] Q_Continuum: To run multiple wikis, you can simply install MediaWiki in different folders, with different databases or in one with database prefixes. You can also have multiple wikis using a single installation: [17:37:06] I *just* found the Wiki_family page, thanks! :-D *laughs* [17:42:41] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "Changing this without updating the change type handler registration in the client will break change ..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: -1 C: -2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25890 [17:44:05] 03(mod) PHP Notice: Undefined index: href in /www/w/skins/Vector.php on line 416 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38334 +comment (10Krinkle) [17:44:49] New review: Bsitu; "one minor nitpicking" [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25492 [17:46:41] New patchset: Matthias Mullie; "Improve AFT permissions" [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25492 [17:46:57] 14(INVALID) Can't create a new gerrit-stats report - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40662 +comment (10Dan Andreescu) [17:48:28] Change merged: Bsitu; [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25492 [17:48:57] 03(mod) PHP Notice: Undefined index: href in /www/w/skins/Vector.php on line 416 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38334 +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger) [17:50:11] 03(VERIFIED) Can't create a new gerrit-stats report - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40662 (10Quim Gil) [17:54:47] 03(mod) Initial Loaded page content for Mobile App - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36017 +comment (10Jon) [17:55:55] 03(mod) PHP Notice: Undefined index: href in /www/w/skins/Vector.php on line 416 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38334 +comment (10Daniel Friesen) [17:57:07] 03(mod) Hide signature button from edit toolbar in main namespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/5645 (10Andrew Gray) [18:03:24] 1.21wmf1 on testwiki, test2wiki and mediawikiwiki [18:03:25] please test, etc [18:04:33] New review: Krinkle; "Yeah, we probably can't get away with regexes anymore. Need to start parsing it and keeping state. T..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24670 [18:05:11] chrismcmahon: how does the 1.21wmf1 on testwiki, test2wiki and mediawikiwiki differ from what's on the various beta cluster sites? [18:05:19] zeljkof__: ^ [18:05:32] sumanah: should be exactly the same [18:05:38] WHOOOO [18:05:50] chrismcmahon: I may end up asking you that multiple times in the next few months [18:05:54] just for the joy of hearing the answer [18:06:29] I have no idea what you are talking about :) [18:06:42] kind of like that joke about the old guy who goes to the palace/white house/etc every day to ask "where is President $foo" and the guard tells him every day "$foo doesn't live here anymore" [18:06:46] and how do I get rid of __ at the end of my nick? [18:06:50] Dantman: Hm.. why should one suppress warnings in skins? [18:06:55] sumanah: I'll be working with hashar to document how that works. It's not in Jenkins yet but it will be soon. [18:07:02] zeljkof__: "/nick zeljkof" in the IRC window I presume [18:07:17] zeljkof__: try '/nick zeljkof' maybe [18:07:18] Magic. [18:07:22] Done and done. [18:07:58] zeljkof__: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC/Instructions and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC/Channels may help you [18:08:46] Hi, just checking: do all Gerrit registered users have permission to vote patches = reviewers? [18:09:02] qgil: yes [18:09:08] qgil: Yes, everyone can +1/-1. Only privileged users can +2/-2 [18:09:08] qgil: sort of [18:09:34] qgil: "+2" is to merge the patchset [18:09:39] sumanah: http://en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/Special:Version if you're ever in doubt [18:09:40] and -2 is basically a veto [18:10:00] sumanah, chrismcmahon: looks like zeljkof is taken, but now sure how, since I have registered it [18:10:02] chrismcmahon: I was not sure whether all of beta runs the same version or whether we try to do some fancy staged thing [18:10:05] will read the docs [18:10:23] zeljkof__: maybe you're already logged in elsewhere? [18:10:55] sumanah: beta will creep ahead of prod sites as gerrit is updated [18:11:36] ok sumanah RoanKattouw . For simplicity, +-1 can be called "reviewers" and +-2 can be called "core developers"? [18:11:55] * sumanah does not like that simplification unfortunately [18:12:10] I prefer +2 meaning "special" [18:12:14] I dislike the use of the word "core developers" in that context. Our lingo for it is "project owners" AFAIK [18:12:30] qgil: after all, there are maintainers with +2 privs on non-MediaWiki-core repositories [18:12:45] which we have a lot of! https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/admin/projects/ [18:12:46] Oh yes that too [18:12:57] qgil: you might try "maintainers" [18:13:02] qgil: if you must use a noun [18:13:21] reviewers and maintainers is a standard way of calling these roles, yes. [18:13:22] I prefer verbs because everyone can review, in the sense that everyone can comment on code, give criticism and praise, etc [18:13:25] chrismcmahon: the only other irc client I have is https://irccloud.com/, I will make sure to disconnect form there [18:14:04] obligatory links that qgil has probably already seen: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Workflow#Who_can_review.3F_Gerrit_project_owners https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Gerrit_project_ownership https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Workflow#How_to_comment_on.2C_review.2C_and_merge_code_in_Gerrit [18:14:23] zeljkof__: FWIW it's possible you left an IRC client running somewhere, but you can ghost your username from nickserv [18:14:42] ghost doesn't work if its still active? [18:14:45] I thought.. [18:16:15] zeljkof: there you go :) [18:16:31] marktraceur: looks like I was still logged in from irccloud [18:16:45] I have killed it completely now [18:16:53] zeljkof: Yay! Good to see it working. [18:16:54] chrismcmahon: finally! :) [18:17:04] this irc thing is a bit like black magic to me [18:17:36] zeljkof: I have my client auto-identify and then ghost my nick....sometimes it's necessary, other times I get a nasty message from nickserv saying AUGH DON'T GHOST YOURSELF [18:17:43] shell irc access is double-plus-good. Means can walk away and your hours-ago request/question (at least in low-volume channels) gets answered. [18:17:45] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Selection is wrongly restored on undo - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40538 (10James Forrester) [18:17:56] welcome zeljkof! :) [18:18:14] supposedly relasing your nick twice will cure most ills [18:18:21] (as opposed to ghosting) [18:19:11] sumanah thanks for the links. I will use the existing terms then: "Developers" = anybody with a Gerrit account; "Project owners" = those with +-2 granted. [18:19:36] qgil: welllllll "developers" is not ENTIRELY accurate [18:19:48] By the way, http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developers is linked from many pages but seems to be outdated. [18:19:49] qgil: because some people have these accounts to use Labs [18:20:09] sumanah, give me the name, then [18:20:17] I know, it's tough, thinking [18:21:16] sumanah, I'm asking these questions for the metrics and in this sense we need simplification and terms that can be understood by the world out there, even if at the expense of being somewhat inaccurate [18:21:33] Am I the only one who has noticed lots of bad edits on mediawikiwiki status pages recently? [18:21:43] Krenair: "bad" like vandalism? [18:21:50] I saw 1 just now [18:21:51] Krenair, yeah [18:21:59] seemed like a mistake more than vandalism [18:22:04] yeah, stuff like https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Security_auditing_and_response/status&diff=prev&oldid=589111 [18:22:31] qgil: yeah, [[Developers]] needs updating and I am happy if someone else gets around to it; else I hope to soon, but that's just a plin [18:22:34] it's probably because of the friendly "Add status" button being scraped by spammers and such [18:22:49] Ugh what, I pressed something and XChat has put this chat into another window. Not sure how to fix it, so rejoining [18:22:49] 03(FIXED) VisualEditor: Creating a link over-writes any existing annotations on the text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40337 (10James Forrester) [18:23:21] Eloquence: what do you think we should call "anyone with a Gerrit/Labs account"? I am sort of pushing back against "developer" because sysadmins, etc. [18:23:25] "technologists"? [18:23:39] * sumanah vainly tries to get Eloquence to bikeshed to help me & qgil label a stat [18:23:43] sumanah, "contributors"? [18:23:44] how about developers/sysadmins :) [18:24:23] qgil: "developers and sysadmins (with maybe 2 QA engineers and also Sumana)" is approx accurate ;-) [18:24:28] sumanah, they're referred to as 'patch Contributors' in the CREDITS file [18:24:59] sumanah: pretty sure I don't have +2 powerz anywhere (yet at least) [18:25:09] sumanah, Eloquence "MediaWiki contributors"? Expanding also the meaning of "MediaWiki" as the tech community behind Wikipedia, Wikimedia and MediaWiki related projetcs [18:25:12] "contributors" is ok, not optimal because I think "technical contributors" is better (to avoid people coming across these stats and thinking these are all Wikimedia editors) [18:25:29] 03(mod) VisualEditor: High-res icons don't display if small screen is resized to large - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40140 trivial->15enhancement; +comment (10James Forrester) [18:25:31] chrismcmahon: that's ok, this is for a snappy name for "all people with accounts" [18:25:42] New patchset: Catrope; "Throw an error for bad offsets in getNodeFromOffset()" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25900 [18:27:22] 03(NEW) Bug with watch and unwatch links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40665 major; MediaWiki extensions: LiquidThreads; (bugzilla) [18:27:56] haw haw, but you can contribute a lot with a bugzilla account and without a Gerrit account at all. But never mind, this is good enough for a start. :) [18:27:57] qgil: if you need a single word I would love to use "technologists" but [18:28:20] ok, I shall leave you alone then instead of endlessly waxing about names [18:28:40] sumanah, "technologists" would be a good name to be understood internally but not out there [18:28:49] e.g. it can sound as "gadget lover" :) [18:28:50] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Un-listing when the caret is at the end of the document throws an error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40339 +comment (10James Forrester) [18:28:55] yeah [18:29:26] contributor is good enough for what I need now. If there is something better the Edit button will be there. :) [18:29:31] communication is hard! "I'm just a soul whose intentions are good; oh Lord, please don't let me be misunderstood" [18:29:37] New review: Matmarex; "Before doing it properly, couldn't we extract all the strings and replace them with unique identifie..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24670 [18:31:02] New patchset: Catrope; "Add exception to getAnnotationsFromOffset() for easier debugging" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25901 [18:35:59] hi sumanah, how are things? [18:36:11] Hi ashley, not bad, how are things with you? [18:37:47] trying to convince a (OSS) project not to switch away from MediaWiki... [18:38:11] what are their concerns? [18:39:40] it's (apparently) hard to maintain in their environment and updating the custom skin + reapplying (very few, if I may add) core patches can be painful, they say; I've already offered my helping hand to them (as it's a project I'm interested in joining and all) and I've written a decent wall of text defending MediaWiki and explaining how I believe they should improve the project's website [18:40:57] if they were going to switch, what would they switch to? [18:41:04] New patchset: Catrope; "Make getDomText() return an empty string for slugs" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25902 [18:41:04] what other systems are a good match for their needs? [18:41:15] DokuWiki; it has ACL and stuff, they say [18:41:17] one of the many great point is MW's scalability; MW powers one of the most popular websites on this globe and it does a damn good job at it...but something that doesn't even use a database backend...I'm not exactly convinced that it'd scale if and when the project becomes more popular and thus gets more visitors and overall traffic [18:41:28] *great points (of MW), even [18:42:25] if they legitimately and really need ACLs then I would seriously consider that a switch would do them good.... but on scalability MW really is the best AFAICT [18:42:29] serving static file/contents is cheaper [18:42:49] *if* they have concerns anything like ours, Ops-wise [18:43:16] is their discussion on this somewhere public & linkable? [18:43:26] I do believe everyone should use the tool that's best for them..... [18:44:07] what makes it hard to maintain in their environment? do they not have the necessary sysadmin-y privs? [18:44:14] 03(mod) "Unresolved" filter for AFT5 feedback posts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39752 (10Matthias Mullie) [18:44:16] * sumanah lets her consultant-y side come out [18:44:22] New patchset: Michael Shavlovsky; "New version of the extension." [mediawiki/extensions/BlameMaps] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25903 [18:44:49] New review: Hashar; "Lets skip the provider for now, we can always rewrite that test later. For now, it get the stuff don..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22936 [18:44:51] hey there DanielK_WMDE [18:45:05] so do I, and I have plenty of good reasons to believe MW is the best tool for them :) the project manager isn't even sure if they need ACLs; sadly there's no public discussion on this, besides me talking to them in (one of) their IRC channel(s) and defending MW; they have privileges, but they lack PHP devs, which could be one of the reasons (and also something I've offered to "fix" for them) [18:45:30] Change merged: Robmoen; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25901 [18:46:06] can you say who this project is? [18:46:10] * sumanah recklessly speculates [18:46:37] Change merged: Robmoen; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25900 [18:47:20] Sumanah: did anyone mention to you the proposal by xWiki folks to have a room at fosdem, proposal due today? [18:47:40] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Creating a link over-writes any existing annotations on the text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40337 (10James Forrester) [18:47:41] 03(mod) VisualEditor: "Undo" and "Redo" buttons must be flipped for RTL environments - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38548 (10James Forrester) [18:48:32] Amgine: no, I don't think I heard about that [18:48:35] how likely is it? [18:48:59] Mm, I think 100%. They're interested in a wiki room. [18:49:40] [13:45:16] trying to ping foswiki guys now, we'd like to put in the proposal that we've contacted several communities and that they said they're interested…. [18:49:42] 03(mod) VisualEditor: All icons need hi-resolution version (HiDPI, Retina display) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37849 (10James Forrester) [18:49:42] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Link-activating/following - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33239 (10James Forrester) [18:49:43] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Annotated content stripped from an LI on save - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39512 (10James Forrester) [18:49:44] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Pressing enter in a textarea should not submit the form (saveDialog-editSummary) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40034 (10James Forrester) [18:49:46] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Design of save button should make it more prominent - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38006 (10James Forrester) [18:50:28] [13:40:15] Hey mediawiki devs, I'm Sergiu from XWiki and we were thinking about proposing a devroom about wikis for next year's FOSDEM; would you be interested in participating? [18:51:15] Thought you'd be interested knowing about it, Sumanah. [18:51:19] thanks, yes, I am [18:52:10] 03(mod) Sites resource loader module's cache should be invalidated when site config changes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40655 +comment (10Daniel Kinzler) [18:52:57] hi tewwy [18:53:13] sumanah: hello [18:54:01] tewwy: just wanted to thank you for having so much of https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_engineering_report/2012/September#Features_Engineering already done! [18:54:18] New patchset: Hashar; "more public accessors for Title class" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/20478 [18:54:18] New patchset: Hashar; "Use hasSubjectNamespace in Skin.php instead of namespace tests." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22114 [18:54:50] New review: Hashar; "I rewrote the first line of the commit message. Will merge if Jenkins is happy." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/20478 [18:55:03] sumanah: We won't be doing a RL edit, and I asked PeterG to add to the fundraiser one. :-) [18:55:05] 03(mod) Wikimedia should become an OpenID provider - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/13631 +comment (10Chris Steipp) [18:55:19] :) tewwy is it ok to just remove RL then? [18:55:23] biab [18:55:51] sumanah: Yes. from this month. :-) [18:56:22] You are now logged in to MediaWiki as "Krenair". [18:56:26] Return to Array. [18:56:35] New review: Hashar; "Yaron Koren wrote on Sep 13" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13558 [18:56:36] I think I broke it... I wasn't on a page called "Array" [18:56:45] Krenair: I just got that today, couldn't repro [18:57:09] returnto=User+talk:69.125.135.43&returntoquery=action%3Dedit%26redlink%3D1 [18:57:17] "Array" was a link to https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:69.125.135.43&action=edit&redlink=1 [18:59:27] Change merged: GWicke; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25883 [18:59:52] New review: Yaron Koren; "Alright - good to know, thanks. :) I didn't know how this review thing worked for core MediaWiki com..." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13558 [19:05:04] why do we have to reinvent the wheel all the time : ( [19:05:31] New patchset: Aude; "strip the type prefix in client change handling" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25890 [19:07:03] New patchset: Aude; "strip the type prefix in client change handling" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25890 [19:07:53] New patchset: Aude; "strip the type prefix in client change handling" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25890 [19:10:52] New patchset: Subramanya Sastry; "Added test for parsing   in wikilinks." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25906 [19:11:11] Hello. I am using MediaWiki in Norwegian, thus I am not able to use MediaWiki:Navigation and so on. Is there a full list of translations? [19:11:22] Hah [19:11:35] 03(NEW) 'version-poweredby-others' message should not link to MediaWiki CREDITS file - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40666 normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (yaron57) [19:11:36] What do you mean "not able to use MediaWiki:Navigation"? That page should still exist [19:11:50] No, it does not. [19:11:55] New patchset: IAlex; "Fix documentation of $wgProxyList" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25907 [19:12:10] 03(FIXED) Inconsistent state within the internal storage backends - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39221 +comment (10Aaron Schulz) [19:12:50] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Navigation?lang=no [19:12:50] New patchset: Hashar; "Fixed Html::dropDefaults handling of array of default values." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22535 [19:13:08] New review: Aaron Schulz; "Please rebase the other job patch *ahem*" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25888 [19:13:09] Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25888 [19:13:15] Falling back to en, seemingly [19:13:23] It says that the page has been deleted due to no longer being needed. [19:13:35] Thus, it would be logical to assume that the english stuff works. [19:13:39] But it does not. [19:13:45] yeah, but if you look below, there's still content [19:13:56] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Navigation/no [19:13:58] Navigasjon [19:14:06] Same for nb [19:14:13] Oh, wait, its just me that's being retarded. [19:14:19] New patchset: preilly; "change subdomain token replacement behavior if zero detected" [mediawiki/extensions/ZeroRatedMobileAccess] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25908 [19:14:27] I assumed that "MediaWiki" were to be replaced with "myWikiName" [19:14:31] Apparently, I was wrong. [19:14:38] Sorry for the inconvenience. No further problems. [19:14:49] TommyL: thanks for using MediaWiki! [19:14:54] Change merged: preilly; [mediawiki/extensions/ZeroRatedMobileAccess] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25908 [19:15:29] Krenair: where did you see 'return to Array'? I'm seeing it consistently in beta labs now. [19:15:38] sumanah, no problem. Going to create a Norwegian math-selfteaching arena written in a really humorous way, [19:15:44] hopefully people will grow to like it. [19:15:45] COOL [19:15:51] It was where you would usually see the page title, chrismcmahon [19:16:03] In my case, that was "User talk:69.125.135.43" [19:16:15] New patchset: Hashar; "Fixed Html::dropDefaults handling of array of default values." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22535 [19:16:16] TommyL: who are your inspirations, in terms of pedagogy (and androgogy)? [19:16:19] Krenair: I meant which host. English Wikipedia? Commons? [19:16:25] Oh, mediawiki.org [19:16:46] New review: Hashar; "PS4 correct the test case introduced by If8d16b06 and fixed by this change." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22535 [19:17:20] 03(mod) 'version-poweredby-others' message should not link to MediaWiki CREDITS file - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40666 normal->trivial; +code-update-regression; +comment (10Dereckson) [19:17:47] New review: Hashar; "Tests are happy, we have waited long enough to get this one in :)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/20478 [19:17:48] Change merged: Hashar; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/20478 [19:17:50] Krenair: that looks like a bug. I see it as well. [19:17:50] Well, I don't really have any inspirations as far as pedagogy goes, [19:17:51] 03(mod) 'version-poweredby-others' message should not link to MediaWiki CREDITS file - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40666 +comment (10Dereckson) [19:17:58] Change merged: Hashar; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22114 [19:17:58] but I do look up to a lot of mathematicians :) [19:18:09] To what degree is going offtopic like this accepted here? [19:18:26] chrismcmahon, that page isn't even shown by default, I've only seen it on wikimedia sites, so it's likely someone accidentally broke it [19:18:37] Change merged: IAlex; [mediawiki/extensions/CommunityHiring] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25210 [19:18:48] Krenair: the latest mediawiki was deployed there earlier today I'm pretty sure. [19:18:50] TommyL: I would say that up to 10-20 lines of offtopicness is ok at this time of day, more like 50 if it is very quiet [19:19:13] I see. Thanks. [19:19:21] Krenair: do you want to file that one or shall I? [19:19:34] Well, I'm going back to work, thanks for the help, guys, sumanah! [19:19:34] New review: Reedy; "I did... once?" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25888 [19:19:46] AaronSchulz: I guess now is the time to break shit.. [19:19:46] chrismcmahon, I can if you want, I don't mind really [19:19:50] (and thank you, MediaWiki! :) ) [19:19:51] New patchset: Hashar; "whitelisting publicly readable title with regex" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11137 [19:20:06] 03(mod) Unable to get template arguments through API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40664 +comment (10Dereckson) [19:20:07] Krenair: go right ahead! thanks! [19:20:20] New review: Hashar; "PS34 is a rebase to make jenkins happy. Comments on PS33 still apply though." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11137 [19:20:31] chrismcmahon, is that page provided by CentralAuth or mw core? [19:20:43] New patchset: Reedy; "Bug 38955 - Don't include job_timestamp in checks for duplicate jobs" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf12) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25909 [19:20:50] New review: Aaron Schulz; "I think cas() is fine." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25879 [19:21:00] Krenair: I don't know (but I'd like to) [19:21:24] New patchset: Reedy; "Bug 38955 - Don't include job_timestamp in checks for duplicate jobs" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf1) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25910 [19:21:47] 03(mod) File history from shared repository parsed in context of local wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22001 (10duplicatebug) [19:21:55] 03(mod) /w/CREDITS servered as application/octet-stream instead of text/plain - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38609 +comment (10Bawolff) [19:22:06] New patchset: Reedy; "Bug 38955 - Don't include job_timestamp in checks for duplicate jobs" [mediawiki/core] (REL1_20) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25911 [19:22:28] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf12) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25909 [19:23:22] New patchset: Hashar; "tests to compare En, Qqq and messages.inc" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/5550 [19:23:54] New review: Reedy; "Will ofc need schema changes to go live before we can merge this... Logged:" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13194 [19:26:41] New patchset: Hashar; "tests to compare En, Qqq and messages.inc" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/5550 [19:27:16] New review: Hashar; "Makes testAllEnglishMessagesAreDocumentedInQqq() and testQqqDocumentsExistingMessages() to compare a..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/5550 [19:28:07] New patchset: Reedy; "[JobQueue] Job queue refactoring and generalizing." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13194 [19:29:10] sumanah: re the wiki room it's 100%. We've submitted the proposal for the devroom for FOSDEM 2013 (feb). I've contacted the foswiki, dokuwiki and mediawiki communities through the IRC channel and the response has been positive :) [19:29:18] hi vmassol! [19:29:32] on the xwiki side we'll be between 5 to 10 members overall [19:29:37] vmassol: so when will you hear from FOSDEM about being approved? [19:29:42] now let's hope we get that devroom [19:29:54] they've acknowlegded it already but I guess it'll take some time to get the answer [19:29:56] no idea when [19:29:59] hmmm [19:30:03] I'll you guys when I get the answer if you want [19:30:06] *ping [19:30:09] 03(mod) Unable to get template arguments through API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40664 (10duplicatebug) [19:30:13] AaronSchulz: rebased (again)! [19:30:29] vmassol: what email should we use to coordinate with you? [19:30:37] vmassol: there are some folks who wanted to hear more and are not in this channel [19:30:41] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf1) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25910 [19:30:49] either irc #xwiki channel or vincent at massol dot net or xwiki mailing list [19:31:16] New review: Hashar; "The message in MessagesQqq.php is still there." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24821 [19:31:37] got it, thanks vmassol [19:31:51] thanks for following up [19:34:07] Ehhhhhh? Since when were we imploding all array values for attributes in Html::, that's supposed to be a 'class' feature... that's incorrect for multiple attributes... [19:34:14] 03(mod) 'version-poweredby-others' message should not link to MediaWiki CREDITS file - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40666 +comment (10Liangent) [19:34:14] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/core] (REL1_20) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25911 [19:34:41] sumanah: "mid October: devroom announcements" [19:34:51] (from https://fosdem.org/2013/call_for_devrooms.html ) [19:34:51] chrismcmahon, looks like it's core, includes/specials/SpecialUserlogin.php private function executeReturnTo [19:35:06] 03(NEW) remove unused field rc_cur_time from recentchanges table - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40667 normal; MediaWiki: Database; (duplicatebug) [19:36:38] New review: IAlex; "It should automatically be removed on the next localisation update." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24821 [19:36:38] New review: Hashar; "The failure is:" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22535 [19:38:41] 03(mod) 'version-poweredby-others' message should not link to MediaWiki CREDITS file - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40666 +comment (10Dereckson) [19:41:20] New patchset: Reedy; "* (bug 39665) List of query generators is now not built using reflection, instead it is defined in code." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22936 [19:41:50] 03(mod) Site notice dismiss button has layout problem - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/17089 (10duplicatebug) [19:42:03] Hi! [19:42:17] hi palnatoke [19:42:29] How is MediaWiki working for you? [19:42:53] 03(mod) VisualEditor should not try to initialise if no ContentEditable support - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38128 +comment (10Krinkle) [19:42:56] New review: Daniel Friesen; "This shouldn't have just been merged like this. Imploding all arrays with spaces is incorrect behavi..." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22287 [19:43:13] Who should you ask if you want to register the domain mediawiki.? WMF legal, or do we (the local chapter) just do it? [19:43:31] sumanah: fine, thanks :) [19:43:45] 03(NEW) "Return to Array." when logging in - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40668 minor; MediaWiki: User login; (krenair) [19:43:47] palnatoke: yeah, wmf legal sounds about right, legal@wikimedia . org I think? [19:44:12] 03(mod) Deletedtext edit links point to dead article - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/17046 (10duplicatebug) [19:44:12] 03(mod) Special pages with system messages having sections "==" show section "[edit]" links even when they cannot be edited - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36975 (10duplicatebug) [19:44:47] sumanah: thanks - I'll send them an email [19:44:55] good luck and thanks palnatoke [19:44:57] just curious [19:45:01] why are you registering it? [19:45:20] palnatoke: some kind of specific MediaWiki customizations or service? [19:45:27] in order to have a good place for a developer community [19:45:39] qgil: ^ [19:45:45] you might be interested in this [19:45:54] palnatoke: what country, btw? [19:45:58] DK [19:46:01] Denmark [19:46:52] palnatoke: interesting! well, please do tell the wikitech-l list when you start something [19:47:06] will do [19:47:57] New review: Hashar; "Change for 'beta' is https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/25913/" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16474 [19:48:47] palnatoke, sumanah hi: why is the current mediawiki.org infra not enough for you? [19:48:51] 03(mod) "Return to Array." when logging in - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40668 +comment (10Chris McMahon) [19:49:14] New review: Christian; "Yep, this fixed the backspace off-by-1 problem when a paragraph begins with a breakNode." [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25902 [19:49:15] just curious [19:49:23] 03(mod) block expiry should remove autoblock - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/17092 (10duplicatebug) [19:49:33] 03(mod) "Return to Array." when logging in - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40668 +comment (10Chris McMahon) [19:49:53] * Dantman wonders if he should start guarding features he plins to implement by adding tests to make sure that no-one changes core in a way that acts differently than his plins. [19:49:56] 03(mod) Unable to get template arguments through API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40664 +comment (10Chris Down) [19:50:09] qgil: quite a few Danes have unrealistic ideas about their English language skills.. [19:50:15] ooohhhh [19:50:33] 03(mod) "Return to Array." when logging in - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40668 (10Chris McMahon) [19:50:40] Dantman: isn't that sort of passive-aggressive? :) [19:51:00] palnatoke, is it about localizing content like e.g. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki/de ? [19:51:35] more about having chat/discussion in Danish [19:51:38] sumanah, Hmmm... passive aggressive programming? Like defensive coding? ol [19:51:40] lol* [19:51:55] I guess I should instead say "oh good, TDD" [19:52:02] lol [19:52:05] palnatoke, what channels or tools do you plan to use for chat / discussion? [19:52:17] btw palnatoke thank you for nurturing the MediaWiki community in your area! [19:52:29] palnatoke: if you want to plan an event you can get some help from my team to promote it [19:52:31] btw [19:52:51] I, personally, would be happy with using mediawiki [19:53:15] palnatoke, I'm just suggesting a sanity check after seeing many local projects start with a new domain and CMS and then dying after few months [19:53:43] palnatoke, mediawiki.org is already a MediaWii, couldn't Danish developers use the existing infra at will? [19:53:44] Right now I'm just worried that I had plins on how to implement array attribute values in Html.php and it looks like they are being implemented to behave differently, and frankly incorrectly... and I only found this out by chance. [19:53:49] palnatoke: I wish everyone else was happy with MediaWiki, too! [19:54:46] I guess Danish developers are not the first ones not comfortable with 100% discussions in English. What have other local communities done in the past? [19:54:48] qgil: good suggestion - I'll take it back [19:55:39] 03(mod) Database class does not provide support for table aliases - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/17221 (10duplicatebug) [19:55:57] 03(mod) $wgSecureLogin does not redirect to http if wpStickHTTPS is unchecked - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40541 +comment (10Chris Steipp) [19:56:42] <[KrusheR]> i wish i had five million dollars [19:58:55] palnatoke, the closer you stay to the source the easiest will be to keep your content up to date and to flow current and new developer to/from dk <--> en [19:59:41] 03(mod) Unable to get template arguments through API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40664 (10duplicatebug) [19:59:41] palnatoke, creating a new site from scratch is simple (less discussions like this one) ;) and exciting (compared to dealing with more literal translation of existing pages) but usually it pays off [20:00:14] palnatoke, if after trying for a few months you still feel the common shoes don't fit then yes, go for your own. That would be my advice. [20:01:41] 14(INVALID) Kill $wgMFRemovableClasses in MobileFrontend extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40343 +comment (10Arthur Richards) [20:05:11] New patchset: Trevor Parscal; "Added surface model lock and unlock events" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25938 [20:06:26] Change merged: Trevor Parscal; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25902 [20:08:26] 03(mod) Implement image tracking in the monuments database - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37455 +comment (10Maarten Dammers) [20:11:23] 03(mod) "Return to Array." when logging in - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40668 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [20:11:39] New review: Reedy; "I *think* this caused bug 40668" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25529 [20:20:24] 03(mod) Unable to get template arguments through API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40664 +comment (10Chris Down) [20:23:37] marktraceur: are you the one to ping for parser problems? [20:24:19] 03(FIXED) Missing countries from the unused images pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40298 +comment (10Maarten Dammers) [20:26:11] 03(NEW) lift cap for IP creation - Grace Hopper 2012 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40669 normal; Wikimedia: Site configuration; (lcarr) [20:26:29] New patchset: Raimond Spekking; "Add i1n files" [mediawiki/extensions/URNames] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25940 [20:27:04] New review: Aaron Schulz; "* should be removed and this can be merged." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/10378 [20:27:28] New patchset: Raimond Spekking; "Add i18n files" [mediawiki/extensions/URNames] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25940 [20:27:32] New review: Aaron Schulz; "I mean the "*" param should be removed (which was formatted as a bullet)." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/10378 [20:29:29] 03(NEW) in wikitext causes strikethrough - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40670 normal; MediaWiki: Parser; (arichards) [20:33:46] New review: Reedy; "Nope, but it's your fault ;)" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25529 [20:34:44] New review: Reedy; "Caused Bug 40668" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25530 [20:35:30] Is there a 'proper' channel for LDAP_Authentication (Extension) discussion? (An Enterprise channel etc?) Or just in here? [20:35:52] Only here [20:35:55] If Ryan is around ;) [20:36:02] New patchset: Reedy; "Bug 40668 - "Return to Array." when logging in" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25941 [20:36:12] I'm here, but busy [20:37:03] Quick Q then: from the 'enabling options' page it shows both AD and LDAP domains entered in the config file; can both be used simulataneously, or do you pick one or the other? [20:37:36] If no time to respond, that's fine, I can work on it later. Not a rush. [20:37:37] New review: Reedy; "Options is at the wrong position at line 996" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25941 [20:38:04] awjr: One of a few, maybe--parser or Parsoid? [20:38:36] marktraceur: parser - i just filed a bug; https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40670 [20:39:56] New patchset: Reedy; "Bug 40668 - "Return to Array." when logging in" [mediawiki/core] (REL1_20) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25943 [20:40:08] awjr: That certainly is troublesome! [20:40:31] awjr: I usually work with Parsoid, but we may fix this in the course of writing our new version [20:40:44] ah ok, groovy [20:40:47] New review: Reedy; "Per problems with 25715, this is on hold" [mediawiki/core] (REL1_20); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25943 [20:41:16] sumanah: Maybe you know who awjr should ping about the PHP parser? [20:41:26] Or maybe gwicke knows? (he did just return from lunch) [20:41:37] 03(FIXED) "Return to Array." when logging in - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40668 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [20:41:40] marktraceur: looking at backscroll [20:42:00] New patchset: Reedy; "Bug 40668 - "Return to Array." when logging in" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf1) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25944 [20:42:19] marktraceur: yeah, gwicke is a better bet [20:42:45] 03(FIXED) Allow ssh access to willow.toolserver.org and nightshade.toolserver.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40583 +comment (10Daniel Schwen) [20:42:50] sumanah: what is the question? [20:42:58] gwicke: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40670 [20:43:00] gwicke: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40670 [20:43:01] jinx [20:43:07] 1 [20:43:07] 2 [20:43:09] 3 [20:43:12] You owe me a coke? [20:43:22] hehehe [20:43:35] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf1) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25944 [20:43:36] marktraceur: already got you one; take a look in the minifridge in the breakroom. [20:43:39] New patchset: Christian; "Using getRelativeContentOffset for insertAnnotations" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25945 [20:43:41] Sweeeeet [20:44:07] hah [20:44:30] hmm, apparently we have the same issue [20:44:40] We sure do [20:44:40] Computers suck? [20:44:45] And it breaks roundtripping, too [20:44:54] New patchset: Bsitu; "(bug 40580) Show notice on tag/deletion for very new pages" [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25946 [20:45:06] sumanah: will create a bug in Parsoid linking to this [20:45:13] s/this/40670/ [20:45:51] thanks all [20:46:06] 03(NEW) Sanitizer does not handle properly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40671 normal; Parsoid: JS/token-stream transforms; (gwicke) [20:46:52] 03(mod) Sanitizer does not handle properly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40671 +comment (10Gabriel Wicke) [20:46:54] 03(mod) Parsoid: Tracking Sanitizer TODOs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39179 (10Gabriel Wicke) [20:47:18] 03(mod) Sanitizer does not handle properly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40671 +comment (10Gabriel Wicke) [20:51:58] New review: Catrope; "Looks good. This seems to fix the exception mentioned at https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi..." [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master); V: 0 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25945 [20:52:56] New patchset: Bsitu; "(bug 40580) Show notice on tag/deletion for very new pages" [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25946 [20:53:57] 03(mod) Show small notice if user tries to tag/nominate a very recently created page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40580 (10bsitu) [20:56:30] New patchset: Hashar; "tests to compare En, Qqq and messages.inc" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/5550 [20:57:16] New review: Hashar; "rebased to get the javascript-disabled message removed from QQQ :" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/5550 [20:57:17] 03(mod) Query to get relevant feedback for an article performs poorly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39326 (10Fabrice Florin) [20:57:32] 03(mod) DB issues associated with leaving feedback - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39327 (10Fabrice Florin) [20:57:58] New review: Trevor Parscal; "I still get "Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property 'html/data-parsoid' of undefined: When making ..." [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25945 [20:59:58] is anybody here from new york? [21:00:28] Yeah, there are people... [21:01:14] 03(mod) Toolbar is appearing in my userspace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39453 (10bsitu) [21:04:13] hi learning, how's it going? [21:04:23] ok [21:04:35] im looking for developers in new york, is it ok to do that here? [21:05:01] learning: MediaWiki developers? [21:05:09] if you are specifically looking for MediaWiki developers, I recommend you hit http://www.mwusers.com/ and https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Jobs [21:05:20] thanks for checking ahead of time [21:05:27] 03(mod) $wgSecureLogin does not redirect to http if wpStickHTTPS is unchecked - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40541 +comment (10Tyler Romeo) [21:05:39] i looked there [21:06:03] New review: Parent5446; "Sorry about that." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25941 [21:06:10] i need someone in new york to discuss some stuff sorry if it's not OK [21:06:29] learning: Mediawiki stuff? What kind of stuff? [21:06:36] extensions [21:07:10] New review: Parent5446; "Yeah, that's my fault. Somebody already upped a patch to fix it." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25529 [21:07:33] learning: Doing what with extensions? Are you making one? Are you trying to install some? [21:07:42] making two [21:07:49] 03(mod) Article Feedback - Default Warning Message for Abuse Filter - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37579 +comment (10Fabrice Florin) [21:07:58] well not relaly im looking someone to make it i gave up [21:07:59] learning: Do you think we could help you in here? [21:08:02] New review: Krinkle; "Somehow when I check out this change undo/redo no longer work. Lots of exceptions being thrown." [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25938 [21:08:02] learning: New York City or somewhere else in the state? [21:08:05] Ohhh [21:08:24] i can get in new york city quick [21:08:28] i live in westchester [21:09:07] I can only think of one actual developer (was?) based in NYC [21:09:07] learning: Yaron is a MediaWiki developer in NY [21:09:13] 2 [21:09:16] :) [21:09:16] learning: We're pretty good at helping people in here, if you want to take another crack at it :) [21:09:49] I see thanks [21:09:52] Reedy: Yaron, Aryeh, Josh Lerner, johnduhart, probably at least 1 other I have forgotten [21:10:08] Hmmmmmmmmmmmm [21:10:15] learning - I'm both a MediaWiki developer and consultant, so I actually do development for hire. [21:10:23] nice [21:10:53] New review: Krinkle; "http://cl.ly/image/1v1h3f2M2722" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25938 [21:10:55] New review: Parent5446; "That is irrelevant to the purpose of this change, which was to fix a PHP Notice. Furthermore, AFAIK ..." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22287 [21:11:18] learning - what are the extensions you are, or were, creating? [21:11:55] i wanted to make an extension that creates automatic links or something like that [21:12:33] i found help already though :) thanks guys somebody PM'd me [21:12:41] Excellent. [21:15:00] New patchset: preilly; "Update ZeroRatedMobileAccess to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf12) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25949 [21:15:17] New patchset: Catrope; "Add utility function to get DOM attributes as a plain object" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25950 [21:15:20] Change merged: preilly; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf12) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25949 [21:16:12] btw Yaron - I'm writing a thing right now about GSoC - do you have an ETA for SMW 1.18? (OK if the answer is no) [21:16:35] It's always scary when someone out of the blue helps people via PM [21:16:42] 03(NEW) Abuse filter for very short posts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40672 normal; MediaWiki extensions: ArticleFeedbackv5; (fflorin) [21:16:44] sumanah - I'm not involved in that one; I think JeroenDeDauw is the best person to ask. [21:16:55] OK, thanks. [21:17:05] 03(mod) Abuse filter for very short posts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40672 (10Fabrice Florin) [21:18:01] marktraceur: I know you're not on this project anymore, but do you know whether Ankur (drecodeam)'s UW work is on track to be merged, or stalled? [21:18:18] ah I see [21:18:21] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/status:open+project:mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard+branch:master+topic:geo,n,z [21:18:23] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/status:open+project:mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard+branch:master+topic:flickr,n,z [21:18:45] Wasn't Kaldari dealing with it? [21:18:50] For flickr at least.. [21:19:32] sumanah: IIRC there was a blocker in core that needed to be merged [21:19:35] yeah, and I now see that we're waiting for Ankur to respond to some stuff [21:19:49] sumanah: Yeah, Ankur may have dropped away for whatever reason [21:20:33] * sumanah pings Ankur [21:22:40] * marktraceur types dreco to no avail [21:23:01] You'll break it [21:23:13] New patchset: Trevor Parscal; "Added surface model lock and unlock events" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25938 [21:23:19] * marktraceur starts a public awareness program about the dangers of signing out of IRC [21:25:08] New review: Krinkle; "Hard to verify with those exceptions happening around undo/redo, but seems to be fine on its own." [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25938 [21:25:09] Change merged: Krinkle; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25938 [21:27:22] Change merged: Trevor Parscal; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25950 [21:27:51] 03(NEW) Feedback Page: Show 'Most relevant' filter by default to all users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40673 normal; MediaWiki extensions: ArticleFeedbackv5; (fflorin) [21:27:55] Change merged: Trevor Parscal; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25945 [21:28:03] 03(mod) Feedback Page: Show 'Most relevant' filter by default to all users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40673 (10Fabrice Florin) [21:28:33] New patchset: awjrichards; "Update MobileFrontend to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf12) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25952 [21:29:04] New patchset: awjrichards; "Update MobileFrontend to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf1) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25953 [21:30:00] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Various actions that trigger retrieval of offsets throw uncaught exceptions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40463 summary (10Krinkle) [21:30:34] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Various actions that trigger retrieval of offsets throw uncaught exceptions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40463 +comment (10Krinkle) [21:31:35] New review: Krinkle; "See also https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40463" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25945 [21:36:33] New review: Aaron Schulz; "I'll merge this if Jeroen has no objections." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25264 [21:38:25] 03(mod) Don't use hacks to replicate a browser function, either let align="" pass through or not; in HTML5 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40329 normal->15enhancement; +comment (10Krinkle) [21:38:43] 03(mod) Kill $wgCleanupPresentationalAttributes from MediaWiki core - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40632 normal->04BLOCKER; +comment (10Krinkle) [21:39:09] New patchset: preilly; "Update ZeroRatedMobileAccess to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf1) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25957 [21:39:25] Change merged: preilly; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf1) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25957 [21:41:13] New review: Krinkle; "Don't merge until reviewed/merges in master. If the master changeset is updated before that, this on..." [mediawiki/core] (REL1_20); V: 0 C: -2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25874 [21:43:52] New patchset: Mwalker; "Adding ability for end user to select priority languages for translation." [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24086 [21:44:11] New review: Mwalker; "Rebased" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24086 [21:45:27] Change merged: Van de Bugger; [mediawiki/extensions/WhiteSpace] (devel) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24560 [21:49:51] 03(NEW) Feedback page: Filter posts by user relevance score - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40674 normal; MediaWiki extensions: ArticleFeedbackv5; (fflorin) [21:50:24] 03(mod) Feedback page: Filter posts by user relevance score - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40674 (10Fabrice Florin) [21:52:31] New review: Daniel Friesen; "Can you come up with an actual case where you need to apply the default based on every item of an ar..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22535 [21:52:39] Change merged: Amire80; [mediawiki/extensions/WebFonts] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25618 [21:54:15] Change merged: awjrichards; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf12) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25952 [21:54:24] Change merged: awjrichards; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf1) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25953 [21:56:39] 14(INVALID) Using @font-face should work from a file module stylesheet with custom 'media' attribute - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34459 +comment (10Krinkle) [22:08:17] New patchset: Spage; "ACUX changes from acuxapi branch minus validation" [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25959 [22:11:07] awjr: Thanks for the coke, it's delicious [22:11:12] :D [22:14:50] 03(NEW) Link inspector: Width of suggested titles too short - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40675 minor; MediaWiki extensions: VisualEditor; (erik) [22:18:25] Change abandoned: Parent5446; "OK, in that case we'll leave the mentioned test cases broken for now until a comprehensive solution ..." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22535 [22:27:04] New patchset: Mwjames; "Fix autocomplete in Special:Ask" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25962 [22:34:50] 03(ASSIGNED) Link inspector: Width of suggested titles too short - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40675 (10James Forrester) [22:37:11] 03(mod) Using @font-face should work from a file module stylesheet with custom 'media' attribute - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34459 +comment (10Krinkle) [22:37:24] New review: Daniel Friesen; "Is `array( '', '' )` -> ' ' the only type of case where this is an issue?" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22535 [22:39:42] New patchset: Catrope; "(WIP DO NOT MERGE) New annotation API: Annotation and AnnotationRegistry classes" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25963 [22:39:42] New patchset: Catrope; "Initial stab at converting existing annotations to use the new API" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25964 [22:40:10] New patchset: Mwjames; "Consolidate autocomplete in SpecialSearchByProperty" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25965 [22:40:15] New review: Catrope; "-2 per commit summary, this isn't ready yet" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master); V: 0 C: -2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25963 [22:40:30] New review: Catrope; "-2 because this is a work in progress still" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master); V: 0 C: -2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25964 [22:41:26] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Shift-Delete keyboard "cut" shortcut doesn't work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33080 +comment (10Krinkle) [22:46:54] 03(mod) Advanced Formatting for Query Tables - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22037 +comment (10Sal Quintanilla) [22:51:59] New patchset: awjrichards; "Update MobileFrontend to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf1) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25967 [22:52:09] Change merged: awjrichards; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf1) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25967 [22:57:51] New patchset: awjrichards; "Updating MobileFrontend to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf1) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25969 [22:58:02] Change merged: awjrichards; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf1) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25969 [22:58:58] 03(mod) VisualEditor: A link can span whitespace but won't be displayed so cannot be edited or noticed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37835 +comment (10Krinkle) [23:02:47] 03(NEW) [SMW] 1.8: Property autocomplete in Special:Ask is broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40676 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; (jamesin.hongkong.1) [23:02:50] 03(mod) VisualEditor: A link can span whitespace but won't be displayed so cannot be edited or noticed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37835 +comment (10Krinkle) [23:03:22] 03(FIXED) [SMW] 1.8: Property autocomplete in Special:Ask is broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40676 +comment (10MWJames) [23:08:56] New patchset: Mwjames; "(bug 40676) Fix autocomplete in Special:Ask" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25962 [23:09:18] New review: Krinkle; "(undoing score)" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25964 [23:09:35] New patchset: awjrichards; "Updating MobileFrontend to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf1) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25972 [23:09:44] Change merged: awjrichards; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf1) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25972 [23:10:35] 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Pre-annotations don't work if at first character of a blank line (paragraph or list item) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40677 normal; VisualEditor: ContentEditable; (jforrester) [23:11:01] 03(ASSIGNED) VisualEditor: Pre-annotations don't work if at first character of a blank line (paragraph or list item) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40677 (10James Forrester) [23:15:42] New patchset: Mwjames; "Consolidate autocomplete in SpecialSearch By Property" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25965 [23:16:09] New patchset: Mwjames; "Consolidate autocomplete in SpecialSearch By Property" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25965 [23:19:25] New patchset: Mwjames; "Consolidate Special:Browse autocomplete" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25973 [23:19:25] New patchset: Mwjames; "Consolidate autocomplete in Special Search By Property" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25965 [23:20:45] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Interface should have an obvious way to get back to reading mode - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37845 summary (10Krinkle) [23:21:04] 03(NEW) Don't always load interwikis with page HTML - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40678 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend; (maxsem.wiki) [23:25:00] New review: Trevor Parscal; "Consider re-using ve.dm.AnnotationFactory (merging in the functionality you have in ve.dm.Annotation..." [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25963 [23:30:32] 03(NEW) $wgServer with protocol causes HTTP links in HTTPS - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40679 major; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (tylerromeo) [23:31:22] 03(FIXED) $wgSecureLogin does not redirect to http if wpStickHTTPS is unchecked - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40541 +comment (10Tyler Romeo) [23:34:09] New patchset: Robmoen; "Fix transaction bug with Roans help." [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25974 [23:34:39] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Un-listing when the caret is at the end of the document throws an error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40339 +comment (10Rob Moen) [23:35:43] 03(mod) $wgServer with protocol causes HTTP links in HTTPS - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40679 +comment (10Roan Kattouw) [23:36:32] 03(mod) $wgServer with protocol causes HTTP links in HTTPS - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40679 +comment (10Roan Kattouw) [23:37:40] 03(mod) $wgServer with protocol causes HTTP links in HTTPS - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40679 +comment (10Tyler Romeo) [23:38:53] 03(NEW) Feedback page - 'Oversight requested' appears twice in 'More filters' drop down menu - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40680 normal; MediaWiki extensions: ArticleFeedbackv5; (fflorin) [23:39:08] 03(mod) Feedback page - 'Oversight requested' appears twice in 'More filters' drop down menu - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40680 (10Fabrice Florin) [23:43:24] 03(mod) $wgServer with protocol causes HTTP links in HTTPS - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40679 +comment (10Roan Kattouw) [23:44:28] Change merged: GWicke; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25906 [23:46:20] New patchset: awjrichards; "Updating MobileFrontend to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf1) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25975 [23:46:33] New patchset: awjrichards; "Updating MobileFrontend to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf12) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25976 [23:46:44] Change merged: awjrichards; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf1) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25975 [23:46:53] Change merged: awjrichards; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf12) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25976 [23:49:27] 03(NEW) deploy Zuul (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40681 normal; Wikimedia: Testing Infrastructure; (hashar) [23:52:31] Reedy: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/25424/1/backend/FlaggedRevs.hooks.php,unified [23:55:31] RoanKattouw: when did you next get a chance for cr? [23:56:28] AaronSchulz: Doing CR for RL fixes for the 1.20 tarball now