[00:06:05] New patchset: Siebrand; "Remove some unused local variables." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27129 [00:06:36] New review: MarkTraceur; "I gave you review and there was no answer--that's not "nobody wants to fix" it's "nobody disagrees w..." [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23764 [01:21:15] hi jeremyb [01:32:28] New review: Hoo man; "That's IMO not a strong enough reason to rename this important and often referenced files." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27117 [01:48:24] New review: Helder.wiki; "Is the evilness of $(, {}) documented anywhere? Why is it evil?" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25262 [01:52:03] hi sumanah [01:52:20] jeremyb: just wanted to thank you for your online help with that event yesterday [01:52:36] sure ;) [01:53:04] i still don't know exactly what i was working on but that's ok ;)BBBBBBBBBB [01:53:55] New patchset: Mwjames; "Consolidation of SMW_custom.css/js to make it RL sane" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26944 [02:14:26] New patchset: Krinkle; "ve.Factory: No need for a-b-c workaround, createObject and apply." [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27130 [02:21:00] New patchset: Krinkle; "ve.Factory: No need for a-b-c workaround, createObject and apply." [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27131 [02:21:39] Change abandoned: Krinkle; "Duplicate of If0add3da7475886e476900044acda2ba7d01fb11." [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27131 [02:21:54] New patchset: Krinkle; "ve.Factory: No need for a-b-c workaround, createObject and apply." [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27130 [02:28:32] ugh, where did that BBBBBBBBBB come from? [02:28:47] i guess my terminal was lagging [02:44:18] good day everyone.. [02:45:00] im planning to make my wiki main page, as what the main page of mediawiki.org look like..can you suggest how to do it??? is tables??? [02:47:10] deo: You can view the source of the mediawiki.org main page :) [02:47:45] hi ty :) yup i viewed it.. but i didnt understand the code, im sorry :) is it templates? [02:48:50] I don't really understand it either :( [02:50:44] :( ,,,, ill try to copy it to my wiki main page,. [02:51:00] but those templates declared.. where can i find them? [02:52:45] {{pagename}} -> Template:pagename [02:53:13] {{bananas/apples}} -> Template:bananas/apples [02:53:19] hmmnn [02:53:23] {{bananas|apples}} -> Template:bananas [02:54:11] hmmmnn where can i create template ty ??? is it a page?? [02:54:16] thanks for the help [02:54:53] A template is made at Template:TemplateName [02:55:05] It can then be called using {{TemplateName}} [02:55:30] hmmmn thanks for this info ty ,, im trying to create one.. [02:56:52] are those CSS ty are declared within the page?? or are they external CSS ?? [02:57:25] The CSS is most likely declared in the MediaWiki:Common.css [02:57:35] I'd also check the MediaWiki:Vector.css [02:57:56] Common.css is for all skins, and Vector.css might have some changes specifically for the vector skin [02:58:56] hmmmn okay, anyways thank for the help ty, i cannot relate really with CSS, lol :) [02:59:33] I'm sure you'll eventually figure it out :) [03:07:59] New patchset: Aude; "fix documentation" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27132 [03:23:36] New review: Krinkle; "Exactly how is this an improvement?" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27039 [03:26:42] Change merged: Krinkle; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27127 [03:28:20] 03(mod) ?action=info doesn't show cascading page protection - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40829 +patch-in-gerrit (10Tyler Romeo) [03:38:57] New review: Parent5446; "Two minor styling issues. Other than that, functionality works and everything else looks good. The w..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27019 [03:39:23] 03(mod) Display redirect status in MediaWiki's info action - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40154 +patch-in-gerrit (10Tyler Romeo) [03:50:15] New patchset: Parent5446; "(bug 39490) Add caching to InfoAction." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27133 [03:54:36] 03(mod) Add caching to info action - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39490 +patch-in-gerrit; +comment (10Tyler Romeo) [04:02:38] 03(mod) Add support for OpenDyslexic font - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40539 +comment (10Santhosh Thottingal) [04:05:35] New patchset: Parent5446; "(bug 39957) Added threshold for showing number of page watchers." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27134 [04:05:36] New patchset: Parent5446; "Tidy up InfoAction and note it's hook in docs/hooks.txt" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27119 [04:05:56] 03(mod) Expose MediaWiki info action's page watchers value to more users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39957 +patch-in-gerrit; +comment (10Tyler Romeo) [04:06:58] 03(mod) Wikimedia dumps should contain FlaggedRevs data, including article status - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/16546 summary (10John Mark Vandenberg) [04:07:20] 03(mod) Add LiquidThreads status to MediaWiki's info action - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38534 +patch-in-gerrit (10Tyler Romeo) [04:07:28] 14(DUP) dump more tables from FlaggedRevs on WMF wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35975 +comment (10John Mark Vandenberg) [04:07:29] 03(mod) Wikimedia dumps should contain FlaggedRevs data, including article status - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/16546 +comment (10John Mark Vandenberg) [04:09:08] 03(mod) Wikimedia dumps should contain FlaggedRevs data, including article status - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/16546 +comment (10John Mark Vandenberg) [04:14:11] 03(NEW) Add /fundraising to dumps.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40847 normal; Wikimedia: Fundraising: Misc.; (jayvdb) [04:14:25] New review: Parent5446; "Rebased by accident. Sorry." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27119 [04:15:32] New patchset: Krinkle; "Fix constructor names; remove redundant hasOwnProperty." [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27135 [04:18:00] 03(ASSIGNED) $wgSecureLogin is broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40789 (10Tyler Romeo) [04:21:56] New patchset: Parent5446; "(bug 40679) Set $wgSecureLogin to false for $wgServers with schemes." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27136 [04:22:18] 03(mod) http $wgServer with $wgSecureLogin should not infinitely self-redirect - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40679 +patch-in-gerrit; +comment (10Tyler Romeo) [04:25:19] Change abandoned: Parent5446; "(no reason)" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27133 [04:25:56] Change restored: Parent5446; "(no reason)" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27133 [04:28:11] New patchset: Parent5446; "(bug 39490) Add caching to InfoAction." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27133 [04:32:41] New patchset: Parent5446; "(bug 39490) Add caching to InfoAction." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27133 [04:35:59] 03(mod) Review Wikibase Repo extension for deployment - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38822 +comment (10Tim Starling) [04:36:30] New patchset: Parent5446; "(bug 39490) Add caching to InfoAction." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27133 [04:37:19] Hello, i have the search form in the right top corner like almost all the wikis is there a way i can put it in a wiki post? [04:38:00] define a wiki post? [04:41:02] like the front page, or any wiki page eg: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Butte_Creek [04:41:46] so i can show above the text a search bar [04:49:11] 14(INVALID) ResourceLoader: @embed doesn't work on user or site CSS - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40832 summary; +comment (10Krinkle) [04:50:10] New patchset: Tim Starling; "Deprecate $wgSharedDB" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27137 [04:50:45] Change merged: IAlex; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27128 [04:51:46] New patchset: Parent5446; "(bug 39490) Add caching to InfoAction." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27133 [04:52:09] New review: Krinkle; "Looks fine, though letting it to someone else to approve (not really my area of expertise)." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27136 [04:55:07] Any clue Amgine? thx [04:55:38] Sorry, was finishing things up here. Let me look. [04:56:54] The Vector skin used on en.WP includes the search bar above the article on every page. Which skin is your wiki using by default? [04:57:14] luisluis: ^ [04:58:29] Vector skin, the searchbox is under the p-search id [05:05:30] I know that the manual says for /wiki URL's to work, you need to modify the server. [05:05:57] It doesn't say anything about .htaccess. [05:07:48] Anyways, is 1.19.2 the latest version? [05:08:00] Or 1.20? [05:08:27] therocketmaster: [05:08:31] therocketmaster: [05:08:40] Wikipedia has 1.20 installed. [05:08:58] What, tale? [05:09:03] therocketmaster: You can see the latest version on page http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki under Current Version. [05:09:51] New review: Krinkle; "$(, {}) has a "feature" of calling methods instead of setting attributes if a method by that name ex..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25262 [05:10:22] I know Wikipedia uses 1.20. Beta version? [05:10:37] 1.21 now [05:11:11] But, 1.19 is still supported, right? [05:11:34] right, and it will be for at least the next 8 or so months [05:11:54] And, i've read somewhere that MediaWiki was originally made for Wikipedia. [05:12:03] exactly right! [05:12:36] Many sites use it now. [05:12:48] right on [05:12:56] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki confirms everything [05:13:08] I think it's the de facto wiki engine to use. [05:13:22] Although there are others. [05:13:35] not always, there are alternatives, but I can probably claim that 70% of the wikis I've seen run MediaWiki [05:13:43] But nothing beats MediaWiki. [05:13:47] ^^ [05:13:54] (though I'm self-biased toward MediaWiki, of course) [05:14:10] Me too, man. [05:14:32] I apologize for that. [05:14:58] 03(NEW) Installation wikiLove - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40848 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikiLove; (sb_nadwi) [05:15:01] 1.20 will be out soon [05:15:39] But, do you know any other software that's written in PHP and uses MySQL? I don't think so. [05:15:46] 03(mod) WikiLove installation on Urdu Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40848 summary (10Jasper Deng) [05:16:01] I'm pretty sure there are others written in PHP and which use MySQL [05:16:09] but they're fringe [05:16:58] Hello, i have the search form in the right top corner like almost all the wikis is there a way i can put it in a wiki post? my goal would be like https://www.dropbox.com/s/jthmdp1jxe00xib/Wikiguate-BuscadorPortada.jpg [05:17:04] There are primitive engines that have no markup, and you make links LikeThis. [05:17:53] Those are too primitive. [05:17:59] The only real UI drawback of MediaWiki probably is its lack of a visual editor [05:18:02] which is being worked on [05:18:42] There's WikiEditor. That's an extension. [05:18:57] You can use that. [05:18:58] yeah, it's being written as an extension [05:19:05] you can try it out on MediaWiki.org [05:19:18] (WikiEditor isn't maintained, AFAIK) [05:19:44] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/VisualEditor:Test , cheers [05:19:47] though I have to go now [05:20:08] What i really want is an extension for editing the interwiki table. [05:20:25] And a control panel. [05:20:40] there are extensions for both, but I don't have the time to point them out, sorry [05:20:46] you can search MediaWiki.org for them - good luck! [05:29:14] Can i have a main page template for a basic main page? [05:29:30] Mine's kinda basic. [05:29:43] I want to make it prettier. [05:29:55] hi all,,..im planning to make my wiki main page, as what the main page in mediawiki.org look like... can you suggest how to do it?? ,, for example the part in System Administration.. is it a table??? [05:31:04] deo: You can see how it is done. Look at the source of the page, and list of used templates at the bottom of page. [05:31:37] But, why use templates? [05:31:42] ahhmm tale, whice part is the part of System Administration template??.. i didnt see it.. can you tell me where??? [05:31:49] deo: I do not know. [05:31:57] hi therocketmaster what do u suggest? [05:32:01] Why not do it without them? [05:32:02] tale hmmnnn [05:32:18] just want to design my main page lol [05:32:19] Use the Source, deo. [05:32:30] Mine's easy to do: http://rocketpedia.uni.me [05:32:47] yup i viewed the source tale ,,, i dont know which template is used in System [05:32:54] administration part [05:33:12] I don't know how to make the one on Wikipedia. [05:33:34] Hey I'm looking to create a site that would have text fields that any guest could edit. Any suggestions? [05:33:58] any suggestions for widgets that allow you to do this? [05:40:56] can we view the css used in mediawiki.org, ?????????? [05:51:03] New review: Toniher; "Help!" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticForms] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25735 [05:53:01] New review: IAlex; "$wiki parameter to wfGetDB() cannot replace entirely $wgSharedDB, e.g. when you want to share user o..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27137 [05:54:29] New review: Nikerabbit; "I would argue this is design, and language specific in that. Being able to override it is an improve..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27039 [06:30:10] 03(mod) Add support for custom description - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29817 +comment (10Ralf Schmitt) [06:32:20] 03(mod) Add support for custom description - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29817 +comment (10Ralf Schmitt) [06:45:12] New patchset: Raimond Spekking; "Fix typo" [mediawiki/extensions/EducationProgram] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27138 [06:47:17] New code comment: Siebrand; Had a bug fixed in https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/27128/.; [06:49:36] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/EducationProgram] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27138 [06:50:30] Hi! Anyone available for a git/gerrit question? [06:51:59] hi all, im following on the mediawiki.org mainpage... [06:52:26] i want to copy the looks on their mainpage to my wiki main page.. [06:52:57] and ive found out that theres so much templates in there.. quesiton... do i need to create all those templates??? [06:54:41] Change merged: IAlex; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27129 [07:19:35] hi where can we find the template used in the main page of mediawiki.org? [07:28:19] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26766 [07:28:19] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26765 [07:35:14] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "added selenium tests for watchlist change propagation" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26630 [07:39:25] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "added selenium tests for watchlist change propagation" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26630 [07:43:08] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26630 [07:52:51] 14(WFM) Map region highlighting is not synchronized with list when scrolling up - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39931 +comment (10Amir E. Aharoni) [08:02:32] 03(mod) Map region highlighting is not synchronized with list when scrolling up - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39931 +comment (10Santhosh Thottingal) [08:12:23] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26764 [08:15:04] New patchset: Kontokostas; "Improved coding style / identation; Added WikiEditor button support; Provided Internationalization support; (Recommitted after abandoning 6 unmerged commits)" [mediawiki/extensions/LightweightRDFa] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/21325 [08:15:09] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticForms] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26940 [08:15:09] Change merged: Foxtrott; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticForms] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25735 [08:24:58] hi all, did someone succesfully export the templates of mediawiki.org main page???? [08:39:29] 03(NEW) UI: toolbar remains disabled when error tooltip is shown - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40849 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; (tobias.gritschacher) [08:43:49] Change merged: Henning Snater; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26966 [08:45:42] so just to confirm, as from https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Login#Construct_cookies [08:45:43] I need to have 4 cookies set to perform logged-in requests? [08:45:56] _session, UserName, UserID, Token [08:45:59] ? [08:46:01] 03(mod) UI: toolbar remains disabled when error tooltip is shown - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40849 (10tobias.gritschacher) [08:56:37] Change merged: Henning Snater; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26967 [09:04:41] 03(NEW) jquery.byteLimit rewrite sometimes removes the last character instead of the most recently added, even if it could know this - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40850 normal; MediaWiki: JavaScript; (listenleser) [09:08:02] 03(FIXED) jQuery.uls.data. ... function names - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39963 (10Santhosh Thottingal) [09:12:57] yuvipanda, Varies... you're best off doing the most sane thing..... just keep every cookie you're told to keep, just like a standard HTTP UA is supposed to do. [09:14:50] Session holds a session ID that may expire [09:15:11] 03(NEW) consolidate database patches - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40851 normal; MediaWiki: ContentHandler; (daniel.kinzler) [09:15:21] UserName and UserID are used for filling some things out after a session has expired [09:15:46] eg: Let a session expire server side, your username is pre-filled in the login box. [09:16:17] And Token is used if the user enabled "Remember me" and is compared to the user_token. [09:17:28] Dantman: hmmm, I'm implementing a wiki provider for AccountManager in Android, and it sortof assumes a OAuth type mechanism - lets you save only a 'token' [09:17:49] so in our case I guess I'm better off just saving the entire cookie header and repeating that for all authenticated requests [09:17:51] New patchset: Jens Ohlig; "(Bug #40560) Replace wbgetitems with wbgetentities" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26757 [09:18:30] AccountManager? [09:20:14] New patchset: Amire80; "Update from GitHub" [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27141 [09:22:47] Change merged: Henning Snater; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27122 [09:23:24] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26968 [09:24:42] Dantman: it's Android's way of storing credentials securely [09:24:43] (of sorts) [09:24:43] New patchset: Amire80; "Delete utils.data tests - they were moved to the jQuery component" [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27142 [09:25:10] Oh, for an app [09:25:10] Dantman: and lets multiple apps use the same credentials, without having to have them handle password storage themselves [09:25:14] yes [09:25:22] Commons [09:25:57] Dantman: also, WMF clusters serve HTTP/1.0 and hence can not do Transfer-Encoding: chunked? [09:26:03] at all? or am I missing something? [09:27:02] 03(NEW) Status class should accept Message objects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40852 normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (niklas.laxstrom) [09:28:20] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26631 [09:29:52] New patchset: Aude; "fix documentation" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27132 [09:35:15] New patchset: Nikerabbit; "Replace wfMsg with wfMessage in TPException" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27143 [09:35:53] 03(FIXED) Clicking twice in a region moves the focus to the Worldwide region - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39932 (10Santhosh Thottingal) [09:41:54] New patchset: Amire80; "Update from GitHub" [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27141 [09:43:36] 03(FIXED) Automatic workflows - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34299 +comment (10Niklas Laxström) [09:44:17] 03(WONTFIX) "Translation page template" is a confusing term - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39760 (10Niklas Laxström) [09:47:57] 03(mod) Deglobalize Translate - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38836 +comment (10Niklas Laxström) [09:49:27] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "handle undeletion of entities on client and repo" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26815 [09:51:34] 03(FIXED) A change to a translation should be able to trigger a message group workflow state change - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37145 +comment (10Niklas Laxström) [09:53:50] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27143 [09:53:55] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "handle undeletion of entities on client and repo" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26815 [09:55:08] New patchset: Henning Snater; "refactored EditableDescription test" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27144 [09:58:26] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26815 [10:03:26] New review: Tobias Gritschacher; "still error when running PHPUnit tests. see inline comment." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: -1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26757 [10:05:20] New patchset: Nikerabbit; "Get rid of remaining wfMsgExt call in Translate" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27145 [10:05:53] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27132 [10:08:30] New patchset: Henning Snater; "refactored EditableLabel test" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27146 [10:15:17] New patchset: Aude; "define RC_EXTERNAL type for recent changes" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27147 [10:15:47] 03(mod) Please remove some namespaces from es.wikibooks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40838 +comment (10Marco Aurelio) [10:17:09] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27145 [10:18:07] 03(mod) problems saving language links containing umlaut - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40823 (10silke.meyer) [10:20:21] New patchset: Jens Ohlig; "(Bug #40560) Replace wbgetitems with wbgetentities" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26757 [10:21:21] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27146 [10:21:22] 03(mod) problems saving language links containing umlaut - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40823 +comment (10Aude) [10:21:42] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27144 [10:24:42] New patchset: Siebrand; "Use correct function name" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27148 [10:30:54] New patchset: Henning Snater; "refactored DescriptionEditTool test" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27149 [10:35:16] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27149 [10:36:35] New patchset: Jens Ohlig; "(Bug #40560) Replace wbgetitems with wbgetentities" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26757 [10:39:35] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Killed pointless stub methods" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27150 [10:40:17] New review: Aude; "I think nearly all Wikipedias (except those with the system message set) sort (by hand or by bot) th..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24211 [10:40:57] New patchset: Daniel Werner; "EditableValue.remove() now always returns promise with promisor.apiAction info" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27151 [10:42:33] Change merged: Daniel Werner; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26807 [10:42:40] 03(mod) Add git date to Special:Version - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38783 +comment (10Daniel Kinzler) [10:44:59] New patchset: Aude; "update default settings to sort by code order" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27152 [10:47:19] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "updated getVersion in API modules to not use an SVN keyword :p" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27153 [10:47:20] Change merged: Jens Ohlig; [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27047 [10:48:43] Change merged: Jens Ohlig; [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27048 [10:49:07] New patchset: Daniel Werner; "EditableValue.remove() now always returns promise with promisor.apiAction info" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27151 [10:49:26] New patchset: Henning Snater; "refactored LabelEditTool test" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27154 [10:52:12] Change merged: Daniel Werner; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27154 [10:53:40] 03(mod) problems saving language links containing umlaut - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40823 +comment (10Daniel Kinzler) [10:55:53] New patchset: Daniel Werner; "EditableValue.remove() now always returns promise with promisor.apiAction info" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27151 [10:56:30] New patchset: Nikerabbit; "Fix exporting of untranslated messages" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27155 [10:56:30] New patchset: Nikerabbit; "I18n#1741 - Metadata handling in JsonFFS" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27156 [10:57:47] Change merged: Henning Snater; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27151 [10:59:12] New patchset: Siebrand; "(bug 38836) Deglobalize Translate" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27157 [10:59:12] New patchset: Siebrand; "Remove unused TranslationHelpers::doBox()" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27158 [11:00:48] New patchset: Krinkle; "Fix HtmlTest, XmlTest; Add setMwGlobals method to base TestCase." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27160 [11:00:50] 03(NEW) Provide replacement for ShowRawCssJs hook - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40853 normal; MediaWiki: ContentHandler; (daniel.kinzler) [11:03:05] 03(NEW) Updater should not add contenthandler stuff to the DB if $wgContentHandlerUseDB is disabled. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40854 normal; MediaWiki: ContentHandler; (daniel.kinzler) [11:03:30] New patchset: Nikerabbit; "Fix exporting of untranslated messages" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27155 [11:03:30] 03(mod) Updater should not add contenthandler stuff to the DB if $wgContentHandlerUseDB is disabled. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40854 normal->15enhancement (10Daniel Kinzler) [11:05:33] New patchset: Nikerabbit; "I18n#1741 - Metadata handling in JsonFFS" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27156 [11:05:54] Change merged: Nikerabbit; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27148 [11:08:40] 03(mod) Provide replacement for ShowRawCssJs hook - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40853 (10Daniel Kinzler) [11:08:56] 03(mod) consolidate database patches - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40851 normal->15enhancement (10Daniel Kinzler) [11:10:21] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "self-approving fix in dev branch" [mediawiki/core] (Wikidata); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26811 [11:10:22] Change merged: Daniel Kinzler; [mediawiki/core] (Wikidata) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26811 [11:10:42] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "self-approve fix in dev branch" [mediawiki/core] (Wikidata); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26813 [11:10:43] Change merged: Daniel Kinzler; [mediawiki/core] (Wikidata) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26813 [11:11:16] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "self-approve fix in dev branch" [mediawiki/core] (Wikidata); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26802 [11:11:18] Change merged: Daniel Kinzler; [mediawiki/core] (Wikidata) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26802 [11:11:33] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "self-approve fix in dev branch" [mediawiki/core] (Wikidata); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26796 [11:11:34] Change merged: Daniel Kinzler; [mediawiki/core] (Wikidata) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26796 [11:11:58] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "self-approve fix in dev branch" [mediawiki/core] (Wikidata); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26789 [11:11:59] Change merged: Daniel Kinzler; [mediawiki/core] (Wikidata) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26789 [11:12:10] New patchset: leucosticte; "Also delete file versions, not only description pages" [mediawiki/extensions/DeleteBatch] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26655 [11:12:20] New review: Nikerabbit; "$editpage->getArticle() seems to be around already in 1.18, so using it would be better than mArticl..." [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27157 [11:15:21] New patchset: Krinkle; "Clean and repair many phpunit tests (+ fix implied configuration)" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27161 [11:15:33] 03(mod) Please remove some namespaces from es.wikibooks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40838 +comment (10Dereckson) [11:17:11] New patchset: Krinkle; "Phase out tests/jasmine; Update mediawiki i18n tests" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23493 [11:17:24] New review: Krinkle; "* Rebased" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23493 [11:27:47] New patchset: Siebrand; "JavaScript tweaks." [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27162 [11:30:01] New patchset: Siebrand; "(bug 38836) Deglobalize Translate" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27157 [11:30:16] New review: Siebrand; "Done in PS2." [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27157 [11:31:36] New patchset: Henning Snater; "refactored/fixed PropertyEditTool test" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27163 [11:31:59] New patchset: Siebrand; "Remove unused TranslationHelpers::doBox()" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27158 [11:34:54] New review: Matmarex; "Krinkle & Nikerabbit, replied inline." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27039 [11:36:25] Change merged: Daniel Werner; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27163 [11:43:34] New patchset: Henning Snater; "Adjust DOM structure of aliases and add edit button for non JS-version" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26599 [11:44:00] New review: Tim Starling; "Shared user tables can be replaced with an AuthPlugin or some similar abstraction. Shared interwiki ..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27137 [11:44:47] New review: Henning Snater; "AliasesEditTool QUnit test fails." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: -1 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26599 [11:46:25] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "Fix behavior of Hooks class." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26809 [11:47:09] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "(Bug #40560) Replace wbgetitems with wbgetentities" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26757 [11:49:03] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26757 [11:50:21] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "Disable transaction warnings for automatic trx." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26748 [11:50:54] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "rebased without change. I can haz +2 again?" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26748 [11:55:31] 03(mod) Enable subpages in User namespace on kkwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40795 +comment (10Bolatbek) [11:56:32] 03(mod) Enable subpages in User namespace on kkwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40795 +comment (10Bolatbek) [11:58:20] New patchset: Siebrand; "Some deglobalization in EditPage.php" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27164 [11:58:58] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27158 [11:58:58] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27157 [11:59:39] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "merge latest master into Wikidata branch" [mediawiki/core] (Wikidata) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27165 [12:00:50] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "self-approving merge into dev branch" [mediawiki/core] (Wikidata); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27165 [12:00:51] Change merged: Daniel Kinzler; [mediawiki/core] (Wikidata) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27165 [12:03:03] New patchset: Henning Snater; "Adjust DOM structure of aliases and add edit button for non JS-version" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26599 [12:03:53] 03(mod) WikiLove installation on Urdu Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40848 normal->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [12:05:54] 03(ASSIGNED) Enable subpages in User namespace on kkwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40795 -shellpolicy +shell; +comment (10Dereckson) [12:09:05] New review: Parent5446; "Is there a specific reason why we should call getArticle() every time even though the only thing it ..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27164 [12:09:13] 03(mod) WikiLove installation on Urdu Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40848 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [12:14:25] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "Fix usage of deprecated ArticleSaveComplete hook in core" [mediawiki/core] (Wikidata) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27167 [12:14:35] 03(mod) Enable subpages in User namespace on kkwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40795 +comment (10Dereckson) [12:16:02] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "self-approving fix on dev branch" [mediawiki/core] (Wikidata); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27167 [12:16:03] Change merged: Daniel Kinzler; [mediawiki/core] (Wikidata) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27167 [12:20:12] New review: Reedy; "This is going to have some issues." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27133 [12:21:22] New review: Parent5446; "Hmm good point. I'll work on this." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27133 [12:24:26] New review: Siebrand; "I guess so that when us classing edit page, and overriding getArticle or getTitle, things would work..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27164 [12:25:31] 03(FIXED) Provide correct @since and deprecation versions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40767 (10Daniel Kinzler) [12:25:36] 03(FIXED) Provide XSD for updated export format - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40766 (10Daniel Kinzler) [12:25:44] 03(FIXED) Fix usage of makeParserOptions in ApiParse - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40654 (10Daniel Kinzler) [12:25:59] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Moved PropertySnak::getPropertyId to Snak::getPropertyId" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27168 [12:26:06] 03(FIXED) Consider using canonical parser options for Content::getParserOutput() - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40653 (10Daniel Kinzler) [12:26:07] New patchset: Daniel Werner; "Renamed wb.ui.StateExtension to wb.utilities.ui.StateExtension" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27169 [12:26:19] 03(FIXED) [Wikidata branch] Prevent page moves that would change the page's implicit content model - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40421 (10Daniel Kinzler) [12:27:00] 03(mod) ResourceLoader: @embed doesn't work for images loaded through an URL (e.g. on user or site CSS) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40832 (10mybugs.mail) [12:30:56] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26809 [12:33:43] Change merged: Denny Vrandecic; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27168 [12:40:33] 03(NEW) Provide the "containing... " right away instead of waiting for an API request - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40855 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Vector; (mybugs.mail) [12:46:08] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27141 [12:49:31] New patchset: Siebrand; "Fix typo in comment." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27171 [12:49:50] New patchset: Amire80; "Cleaning up the getLanguage function" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27172 [12:56:45] Hi! Can someone tell me what the replacement for Article::doEdit() is? Do I have to use EditPage + DerivativeRequest to change the contents of an article via php code? [12:57:25] Has anyone gotten Extension:WYSIWYG to run at all on 1.19.2 ? [12:58:13] I can't get the 'user patched' version to work on 1.18.5 , and can't get anything to work on 1.19.2 [12:58:20] Probably not [12:58:29] I don't seem to recall anyone working on it at all... [12:58:34] Change merged: IAlex; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27171 [12:58:55] and by "can't get to work" I mean I can get the "switch to rich editor" button , but clicking on it removes the edit box, and nothing replaces it [12:59:15] well *@#&@*#, also, the new editor by WMF is still early days [12:59:38] 03(mod) Add support for custom description - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29817 +comment (10Kelson [Emmanuel Engelhart]) [12:59:47] * kim_bruning downgrades to 1.17 and tries yet again [13:01:16] New patchset: Amire80; "Update uls.data API calls" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27173 [13:01:22] * kim_bruning scratches head [13:01:33] any other channels I might ask about it? (what was the smw channel again?) [13:02:04] !semantic [13:02:05] Not many people around here use Semantic Mediawiki or the other Semantic extensions. You might try asking in #semantic-mediawiki [13:02:12] It's not migrated to git [13:02:19] ouch some more [13:02:21] So I guess that's an example of its maintained-ness [13:02:38] ya know, all this stuff is going downhill? [13:02:43] hmm, it's not in our SVN either.. [13:02:55] semantic is kinda dead [13:02:59] or sorry, not dead [13:03:01] but separate [13:03:22] while I'm here, what's the procedure to adopt-a-project from svn? [13:03:27] New review: John Erling Blad; "It would be nice with more formal dokumentation, the system and its intended function starts to be h..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27066 [13:03:35] !git [13:03:35] MediaWiki development is using git, a distributed source control manager, starting on March 21st, 2012; details: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git_happens Instructions for using it: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Workflow To get an account: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Labsconsole_accounts [13:03:40] ffs [13:03:43] None of those are useful [13:03:47] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27066 [13:03:53] I was just looking [13:04:19] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/New_repositories#Step_3:_Request_space_for_your_extension [13:04:44] New patchset: Amire80; "Cleaning up the getLanguage function" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27172 [13:04:54] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Conversion/Extensions_queue [13:04:58] for migrations [13:05:25] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Added Snak::getType" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27174 [13:05:29] does this mean I can adopt a dead extension? [13:05:33] * kim_bruning scratches head [13:05:54] Yeah, you can [13:06:13] maybe I should talk to our good scandinavian friend SV(e)N first though ;-) [13:06:26] is there still a link to there somewhere? [13:06:59] to where? [13:07:56] Is Tyler Romeo around? [13:08:07] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/27134/1/includes/actions/InfoAction.php,unified [13:08:10] That seems a little weird. [13:08:33] Reedy, to ye olde svn repo [13:08:41] $unwatchedAllowed = true; [13:08:45] And then immediately checking that? [13:08:49] Why not just keep it in the branch? [13:08:51] https://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/extensions [13:09:03] it's still alive! [13:09:31] * kim_bruning bookmarks [13:13:46] 03(mod) Expose MediaWiki info action's page watchers value to more users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39957 +comment (10MZMcBride) [13:13:58] * Brooke waves kim_bruning. [13:14:01] It's time for donuts and Coke. [13:14:05] Breakfast of champions. [13:16:33] The lack of history in eval.php is a bit frustrating. [13:16:38] I can't arrow up to get the last command. [13:16:53] [13:17:03] Aim for the head. [13:17:36] > if (1 >= false) { echo "hi"; } [13:17:36] hi [13:18:28] My popcorn gun hasn't that level of accuracy. It might get "somewhere over thattaway" but that's as good as it gets. [13:19:09] 03(NEW) Cached UA agent failures cause broken CSS. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40856 normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (hartman.wiki) [13:20:32] 03(mod) Expose MediaWiki info action's page watchers value to more users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39957 +comment (10MZMcBride) [13:25:24] Ok, so even on 1.17, the WYSIWYG editor simply no worky (as in, it shows up in Special:Version, and it shows up in user settings, but when you click edit, Nothing Seems To Have Happened.) [13:25:30] * kim_bruning tried disabeling adblock too [13:26:37] * kim_bruning tries disabling all plugins (but srsly, if this finnicky) [13:28:14] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "refactor selenum wait methods" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27176 [13:28:36] Ohai Brooke! [13:28:53] Ohai Amgine [13:29:17] so I Am Probably Missing Something Stupid [13:29:49] * kim_bruning has a mediawiki 1.17, a WYSIWYG extension that says it works for 1.17 ... I'm probably missing something stupid [13:29:59] 'cause it ain't loading for me [13:30:20] kim_bruning, do you have the appropriate parser? I believe the wysiwyg requires parsoid extension for 1.17. [13:30:40] that's VisualEditor [13:30:53] do you mean specifically Extension:WYSIWYG ? [13:31:00] Ah. Well, then, carry on. [13:31:02] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27113 [13:32:04] New patchset: Henning Snater; "Update uls.data API calls" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27173 [13:34:19] * kim_bruning checks TFM [13:35:47] New patchset: Jens Ohlig; "(Bug #40563) Rebuilding the store on the client when repo is rebuilt (DO NOT MERGE)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27177 [13:36:13] 03(NEW) CologneBlue Invalid argument supplied for foreach() - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40857 minor; MediaWiki: Interface; (sam) [13:36:16] I could try installing HALO alongside or so [13:36:42] Change merged: Jens Ohlig; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27152 [13:38:02] New patchset: Henning Snater; "Update uls.data API calls" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27173 [13:38:14] Or I could try to build out from SMW+ instead [13:38:18] rather than from regular MW [13:38:29] which might give a nicer "user experience" [13:38:31] * kim_bruning scratches head [13:38:38] well *&*&@#&@# [13:38:55] it's like there's a curse on wysiwyg or something [13:41:26] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Initial specification of new API serialization method with some implementation examples" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27178 [13:41:47] Change merged: Jens Ohlig; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27177 [13:43:30] New review: Aude; "what, this has been merged?" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27177 [13:45:05] New patchset: Siebrand; "Add profiling for DB interaction and make methods non-static where possible" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27179 [13:45:20] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26599 [13:45:48] New review: Aude; "ClientSqlStore has no rebuild method yet" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27177 [13:47:46] New review: John Erling Blad; "Yeah yeah doesn't break anything.." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27120 [13:47:47] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27120 [13:51:59] Change merged: Henning Snater; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27176 [13:52:14] 03(mod) Add /fundraising to dumps.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40847 +comment (10Ariel T. Glenn) [13:53:09] New patchset: Nikerabbit; "JavaScript tweaks." [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27162 [13:57:08] Change merged: Nikerabbit; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23493 [14:01:26] kim_bruning, is there a reason to begin building on 1.17? [14:05:39] ugh [14:05:43] isn't SMW+ dead [14:07:07] 03(mod) CologneBlue Invalid argument supplied for foreach() - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40857 +comment (10Niklas Laxström) [14:07:46] 03(mod) Blank entries in Edit history for blocked user's contributions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40815 summary (10Andre Klapper) [14:08:41] New patchset: Aude; "Revert "(Bug #40563) Rebuilding the store on the client when repo is rebuilt (DO NOT MERGE)"" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27180 [14:08:53] 03(NEW) Error Message - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40858 major; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (malcolm.martin790) [14:09:19] New review: Aude; "undo mistake" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27180 [14:09:19] Change merged: Aude; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27180 [14:12:49] 03(mod) IPv6 address handling broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37416 +comment (10Peter Bena) [14:15:29] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "added support for fancy search button on client" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27181 [14:15:36] New patchset: Nikerabbit; "Some test cleanup" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27182 [14:17:12] New patchset: Jens Ohlig; "Revert "(Bug #40563) Rebuilding the store on the client when repo is rebuilt (DO NOT MERGE)"" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27183 [14:17:35] 03(NEW) Port page translation tests to phpunit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40859 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Translate; (niklas.laxstrom) [14:17:37] Change merged: Jens Ohlig; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27183 [14:20:46] 03(mod) Prevent the "stub" tag being added to articles with other stub tags - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39588 +comment (10Oliver Keyes) [14:21:39] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27181 [14:22:45] New patchset: Henning Snater; "Display 'add' button for aliases instead of 'edit' if no aliases exist yet" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26609 [14:30:37] hi andre__ ! [14:31:04] sumanah, hej hej! [14:31:46] andre__: Reading your email now [14:32:01] also, andre__ : I hereby give you an official welcome ;-) [14:32:18] haha [14:32:21] thanks [14:32:34] the list of things to do is overwhelming. [14:32:38] ohai andre__ [14:32:48] I thought you were Engels for a second there :-P [14:32:51] (Andre Angels) [14:33:57] and beware of sumana, she's powered by an RTG, and is utterly unstoppable ;-) [14:34:13] (dang, I could have mad that a stig-style intro) [14:34:17] ("RTG" - I forgot what that means!) [14:34:28] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Removed InstanceOfSnak and SubclassOfSnak" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27185 [14:34:30] Radio-Thermal Generator [14:34:34] aha [14:34:37] yeah, I'll probably realize some day that this is not the best IRC nickname [14:34:38] sorry [14:34:43] Radioisotope thermoelectric generator [14:34:46] np kim_bruning [14:34:48] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radioisotope_thermoelectric_generator [14:34:58] andre__: yeah, I know what you mean about the overwhelmption [14:35:08] aka, nuclear powered ;-) [14:35:43] andre__: I am very, very glad that you already hung out with a bunch of us at the Berlin hackathon, have been on wikitech-l and here for many weeks, etc etc [14:36:00] because ramp-up is going to be easier for you than it was for me when I got started [14:37:17] sumanah: still the amount of projects and teams is a lot. It has a challenging complexity that I like :) [14:38:08] andre__: \o/ [14:38:18] Lydia_WMDE: how has your day been going? [14:38:31] sumanah: hehe busy - and yours? [14:38:46] * Lydia_WMDE waves @ andre__ [14:39:16] heja Lydia_WMDE! [14:39:22] * kim_bruning goes back to fighting with smw and wysiwyg stuff [14:39:25] Lydia_WMDE: well, I just woke up -- got back from a conference yesterday and I guess I am catching up from sleep deprivation [14:39:38] sumanah: hehe yeah - sounds familiar [14:39:52] oh yeah, I also just took an overnight bus... :) [14:39:54] oh, sumanah , you wouldn't happen to know anything about operational wysiwyg editors for mw atm? [14:40:25] andre__: you happen to be anywhere near prague for the opensuse conf and linux days btw? [14:40:28] visualeditor is still Under Construction. Extension:WYSIWYG seems odd ... [14:40:36] oh well. [14:40:49] andre__: when you said "My plan for today, in no particular order, particularly done already:" and you mentioned answering my public welcome email -- does that mean you did that already? because I'm missing it in my inbox [14:41:01] Lydia_WMDE: that's exactly the weekend when GSoC admin summit takes place :( [14:41:03] sumanah, not yet [14:41:15] andre__: ok, that language was a tiny bit unclear then [14:41:17] andre__: bah! and you're going there? mean! :D [14:41:25] Lydia_WMDE, but I'll visit Berlin again this year I guess :P [14:41:30] excellent [14:41:41] andre__: when do you get back from the mentor summit? [14:41:48] i'll be there until wednesday [14:41:58] 03(NEW) Maintenance::purgeRedundantText() fails on old archived revisions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40860 normal; MediaWiki: Maintenance scripts; (gonosztopi) [14:42:00] Lydia_WMDE, meh, one week later, going to visit the WMF office in SFO... [14:42:06] hah [14:42:07] great [14:42:08] :P [14:42:15] Lydia_WMDE: we need him! [14:42:20] sumanah: shhhh! [14:42:21] :P [14:42:26] Lydia_WMDE, I can recommend you stuff in Prague though, just tell me what you're interested in :P [14:42:31] i just want him for one dinner or so :D [14:42:41] andre__: ok i'll think about it a bit [14:42:51] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26609 [14:42:53] haha [14:42:55] Lydia_WMDE: 80% of the time you're way closer to him than we are! [14:42:57] New patchset: Jens Ohlig; "(Bug #40563) Rebuilding the store on the client when repo is rebuilt (DO NOT MERGE)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27186 [14:43:01] lol [14:43:06] doesn't help much [14:43:34] 03(mod) Maintenance::purgeRedundantText() fails on old archived revisions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40860 +patch +patch-need-review (10Dévai Tamás) [14:43:37] in fact it might make sense for andre__ to visit Berlin a bit and cowork at the Wikidata office for a bit, especially to help triage Wikidata bugs, sometime in 2013 [14:43:41] I am just brainstorming [14:44:03] oh yes, I'm in! [14:44:09] deal [14:44:56] Lydia_WMDE: in your opinion, how far in the future is a time when it would make sense for andre__ to do that? in terms of Wikidata wanting/needing that kind of help [14:45:22] so far we're still keeping up with them but it's probably going to change in the next 2 to 3 months [14:45:30] so personal guess is after new years [14:46:14] ok [14:46:19] Berlin is on the way between my parents' place and Prague, so I can always stop by [14:46:46] andre__: cool - if you're going anyway let me know and we'll arrange something [14:47:03] does the office have a nice couch to sleep on or will I need to end up in a hotel? ;) [14:47:11] hehe [14:47:12] nah [14:47:18] unfortunately no couch to sleep on [14:47:23] andre__: btw, you may find https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Staff?showall=1 useful to see the faces of many of your colleagues [14:47:24] only a few large beanbags [14:50:37] sumanah: what's that showall=1? [14:51:21] liangent: no need for clicking anymore to expand the sections [14:51:29] liangent: have you ever clicked "expand all departments" on that page? [14:51:32] I do it all the time [14:52:13] sumanah: do I need to do vandalism myself on the public "Staff" page or will some higher, blessed force add me there? [14:52:26] I mean where does it come from? [14:52:27] andre__: ha! I will check on that [14:52:32] site js or some extension? [14:52:45] * sumanah doesn't know, sorry [14:53:52] life is a bubble and then it flies away [14:55:58] yep [14:56:09] or it bursts [14:56:11] -.- [15:00:15] sumanah: there's no cc-by-sa statement for http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia_Foundation_office_camera_shy.png on the page you gave :P [15:00:54] hi, i am in the process of migrating our wiki server (REALLY OLD VERSION) from linux to windows running the latest version, however the issue i'm running into is the screenshots on existing wiki articles are failing to load indicating the files aren't there; however the files are under C:\xampp\htdocs\wiki\images [15:01:01] can anyone shed some lights on this? [15:01:24] liangent: I see a cc-by-sa statement on https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia_Foundation_office_camera_shy.png [15:01:49] sumanah: there's no link to that page... [15:01:56] 03(mod) Error Message - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40858 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [15:02:18] liangent: I am adding a note about that to the relevant talk page so someone will fix it [15:02:20] thank you for the bug report [15:03:43] Lydia_WMDE: that needs external pressure [15:03:57] hi ntfydmills - what is the old version of MediaWiki? [15:03:59] Nikerabbit: don't have enough of that yet? ;-) [15:04:09] * yuvipanda looks around [15:04:19] hi yuvipanda [15:04:30] hello sumanah! [15:05:09] Lydia_WMDE: ah but it's the internal pressure that drives nuts [15:05:19] haha [15:05:21] ok [15:05:32] liangent: I'm about to post this to the talk page. Does this accurately reflect your concern? [15:05:33] "As liangent pointed out, our "wearing the cloak of invisibility" photo does not link to [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia_Foundation_office_camera_shy.png its origin], and there's no CC-BY-SA statement. How should this be fixed? Just a note at the bottom of the page? I think turning each photo into a link to the Commons photo would be confusing because people may assume the photo links to the person's user page." [15:06:53] ntfydmills: what path is it using for the images? [15:07:33] Reedy: here is the error for one of the images /b/ba/George_newQuote1.jpg Error creating thumbnail: File seems to be missing: C:\xampp\htdocs\wiki/images/c/ca/George_newQuote2.jpg Error creating thumbnail: File seems to be missing: C:\xampp\htdocs\wiki/images/2/29/AccountingGeorge.JPG [15:08:03] looks like i copied a few of the errors [15:08:04] Error creating thumbnail: File seems to be missing: C:\xampp\htdocs\wiki/images/2/29/AccountingGeorge.JPG [15:08:04] Why's it giving different hashing paths? [15:08:10] not sure [15:08:24] andre__: ta-da! https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Staff_and_contractors [15:08:25] i'm using the default installation and just restored/upgraded the database from the linux system [15:08:34] sumanah, yay, thanks [15:10:17] Did you copy images? [15:10:41] yes images were copied/pasted to the new server and the "Everyone" group assigned full rights to the images directory [15:10:56] liangent: I'm going to assume it's accurate & post it [15:12:09] sumanah: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikimedia_Foundation_staff_page is linked but is that image one of our staff... [15:12:12] actually liangent - look at the bottom of https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Talk:Staff_and_contractors [15:12:33] let's look! [15:12:45] yes it is! [15:12:49] ok, removing my comment now [15:14:00] is there a setting in one of the pages that could be using the "/" as opposed to the "\"? [15:14:28] sumanah: buttom of the talk page? [15:14:32] did you mean the subject page [15:14:47] liangent: I wanted you to see that I had posted the comment about your concern [15:15:05] ok then? [15:15:13] liangent: then I immediately deleted that comment, because I saw that we actually do link to the license at the bottom of https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Staff [15:15:29] and yes, the photo you mention is within https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikimedia_Foundation_staff_page [15:16:39] sumanah: yeah it's in it [15:16:46] I don't know how I failed to see it in the category... [15:17:11] but what's that tiger in the category...? [15:18:05] New patchset: Henning Snater; "add button for site links table in non-JS version" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27187 [15:18:25] liangent: at this point I think you can figure that out yourself by looking at the tiger photo and looking at the "pages this is used on" section :) [15:19:40] sumanah: hmm I see it on the wmf:staff page now [15:19:47] but it's linked to file desc page... [15:20:28] should be corrected to the "user page?" then [15:20:59] liangent: please rephrase, I don't understand. [15:21:45] also, liangent, I have about 10 more minutes to work today (it is a holiday) and I need to process https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Gerrit_project_ownership and https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developer_access so maybe this can wait? [15:21:49] New patchset: Alex Monk; "Tidy up InfoAction and note it's hook in docs/hooks.txt" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27119 [15:22:29] liangent: you might want to email the people who have done work on the design of the page -- they talk at https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Talk:Staff_and_contractors [15:22:31] sumanah: that tiger image on [[wmf:staff]] is linked to file description instead of his(her?) user page [[wmf:rory]] which it should be, based on what you said above [15:22:38] or actually https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Foundation_wiki_feedback [15:23:38] liangent: please tell the page designers at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Foundation_wiki_feedback and they'll be able to have a much more engaged conversation with you about it :) [15:24:15] * sumanah has never edited the Staff page except just now she edited the template it calls and added Andre [15:26:00] Reedy: any ideas? [15:26:01] sumanah: I added a line to that meta page [15:27:07] New patchset: Alex Monk; "(bug 40829) Show cascading protection info on action=info" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27019 [15:28:28] thanks liangent [15:30:20] ntfydmills: windows uses \, nix uses / [15:30:37] Though your web server should deal with that# [15:30:48] Reedy: is there something i can change within the coding of either a page or the database to tell it to use \ as opposed to /? [15:31:13] No [15:31:35] so essentially, there is no way for me to upgrade my server from a linux box to a windows box? [15:31:40] and retain my images? [15:32:13] there must be a way, it just might be roundabout [15:32:20] I'm fairly sure we don't store paths in the database [15:32:39] Have you looked at your LocalSettings.php ? [15:32:49] Reedy: yes and didn't see anything that stood out [15:33:04] sumanah: i'm open to try anything, working on a test environment before we put this thing out live [15:33:16] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Split ApiSerialization code into seperate files, added options interface and improved handling of ApiResult" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27188 [15:33:25] ntfydmills: I don't actually have any good ideas, sorry [15:33:47] sumanah: lol it's cool ... just a little peeved that this is the only roadblock left to figure out [15:33:48] ntfydmills: maybe something where you export them to some other server & then import them [15:33:51] yeah [15:34:02] thanks jeremyb - done with those dev access requests [15:34:16] k, thanks [15:34:46] ... one sec, lemme try something [15:35:11] Gerrit seems to be down - hashar? [15:35:22] ask ops ? :-D [15:35:22] never mind, it's up now [15:35:41] seems good to me [15:35:55] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "Cleanup of Wikidata branch." [mediawiki/core] (Wikidata) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27189 [15:36:07] nvm no dice with that test [15:36:26] The simplest test, I guess, is are there any backslashes in your localsettings? [15:36:42] Reedy: there are several using the default config [15:38:32] > var_dump( $wgUploadPath, $wgUploadDirectory ); [15:38:32] string(9) "/w/images" [15:38:32] string(35) "/var/www/wiki/mediawiki/core/images" [15:39:32] there are no $wgUploadPath or $wgUploadDirectory variables in the LocalSettings.php [15:40:29] No, they're defaulted [15:40:34] Do you have php setup in PATH? [15:40:47] php setup in Path? [15:40:58] i installed XAMPP per the "how to" on the website [15:42:57] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "ContentHandler changes all squashed in one (DO NOT MERGE)" [mediawiki/core] (Wikidata) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25736 [15:44:15] C:\path\to\php.exe C:\path\to\mediawiki\maintenance\eval.php [15:45:11] New patchset: Denny Vrandecic; "First try on Solr (DO NOT MERGE)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27190 [15:46:27] Change merged: Raimond Spekking; [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27063 [15:48:53] hashar: AaronSchulz siebrand DanielK_WMDE Platonides -- I need just 1 "approved" on https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Gerrit_project_ownership#Add_Jon_Robson_and_Rob_Moen_as_owners_of_vector to process it [15:48:54] damn, php sucks. why can't i access an array index that might be undefined without it complainin'? https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40857 [15:49:05] can one of you help me out? [15:49:09] and why would anyone care about notices? [15:49:13] MatmaRex: $foobar= @$lol['foobar']; [15:49:17] But @ is evil [15:49:29] so can i use it or not? [15:49:32] no [15:49:48] $foo = isset( $arr['index'] ) ? $arr['index'] : null; [15:50:10] awful. [15:50:52] MatmaRex: and in other cases where you feel the urge to use @, use wfSuppressWarnings(); instead and then after your "bad" code, call wfRestoreWarnings(); [15:52:08] this is hardly bad code :/ [15:52:22] $this->data['content_navigation'] just should fill up all indices it might ever provide with nulls IMO [15:52:29] instead of leaving them undefined [15:52:39] tough? :P [15:52:52] and same with about a dozen of other sidebar-generating functions [15:53:12] right now i have to wrap every place where i use it with an isset, basically [15:53:29] which is so mindbogglingly idiotic to me i have no idea why would you consider it a good idea [15:53:59] (and i use it all over the place in cologneblue) [15:54:07] https://bugs.php.net/ [15:54:23] more like http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/ [15:54:38] Why? [15:54:43] sumanah: well you got approval from tim chay and they are the one developing the extension. I am not sure why we need all that paper work :) [15:54:44] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "self-approving cleanup of dev branch" [mediawiki/core] (Wikidata); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27189 [15:54:45] It's not our fault php sucks [15:54:45] Change merged: Daniel Kinzler; [mediawiki/core] (Wikidata) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27189 [15:55:04] hashar: "all that" - I disagree with that assessment [15:55:09] it's your fault that sidebar-generating functions (and variables which contain their results) are not filled with nulls on possible, but empty, values [15:55:16] these are not undefined; they are empty for a given page view [15:55:22] lol. [15:55:22] Reedy: any hints how to debug out of memory problems? wgDebugLog show me lots of queries (Semantic :) and caching which look almost like looped, but is there any way to quick identify the culprit? [15:55:24] Fix it? [15:55:26] New review: Santhosh; "I am merging this since translation of ULS not related to this and this patch itself does not break ..." [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25481 [15:55:26] Change merged: Santhosh; [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25481 [15:55:27] hashar: I just need 1 (one) approval from someone in MW core https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/admin/groups/11,members [15:55:28] would you be mad if i filed this bug and made it ablocker for https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40857 ? :P [15:55:31] hashar: Terry's not in core [15:55:47] (Terry Chay) [15:55:54] sumanah: we have some staff people that wrote an extension and we are creating a group for them so they can approve their own change. I fail to see why it should be approved. [15:56:07] hashar: maybe you mean "why it should not be approved"? [15:56:15] hashar: then please just go ahead and +1 it so I can process it [15:56:29] there's also a bigger conversation to be had about maybe loosening these restrictions, sure [15:56:30] just process it :-] [15:56:47] hashar: ok, I'm recording that as a "+1" from you [15:57:27] apparently i can use the dumpUploads.php to backup the images and the restoreImages.php to restoer them to the new system, however the dumpUploads.php is yelling at me on the linux system [15:57:52] sumanah: I have added my {{support}} on that request :-D [15:58:04] ok! thanks [16:03:45] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "ContentHandler changes all squashed in one (DO NOT MERGE)" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27191 [16:04:00] hashar: processed, and I left a note on the talk page to ask for people's ok to make the process easier [16:06:48] Change abandoned: Daniel Kinzler; "Use the OTHER I3b2dad3a instead." [mediawiki/core] (Wikidata) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25736 [16:06:56] I'm taking off -- I was hoping to only work for 60 min today and it's turned into 90 [16:07:34] andre__: glad your first-day stuff has gone okay! talk with you more tomorrow [16:07:55] sumanah, yepp, see you! [16:07:58] and thanks [16:08:01] thank YOU [16:08:22] 03(mod) test misc::irc::wikibugs on labs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40730 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [16:09:19] New patchset: Matmarex; "(bug 40857) slap some issets all over the place" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27192 [16:10:08] 03(mod) CologneBlue Invalid argument supplied for foreach() - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40857 +patch-in-gerrit; +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [16:10:21] Reedy: there. ^ :) [16:11:10] New patchset: Henning Snater; "add button for site links table in non-JS version" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27187 [16:12:29] Platonides, try Alt Shift . followed by Z = � :) Works at least with Ubuntu + English (International with dead keys) [16:13:08] New review: Raimond Spekking; "i18n comment" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27191 [16:13:08] New patchset: Hashar; "rm starting script, handled by puppet" [wikimedia/bugzilla/wikibugs] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27193 [16:13:10] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "This looks fine in general, although I did not look at the details yet." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27190 [16:13:25] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "Not to forget, it'd be a good example :)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27190 [16:14:27] hm... [16:15:05] I just merged one branch (Wikidata) into another (master - don't worry, just locally). [16:15:13] I'm not seeing a merge commit in the history. [16:15:28] 03(NEW) SkinTemplate's menu generating functions should fill up all indices they might ever provide with nulls - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40861 normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (matma.rex) [16:15:30] where and how do I add a comment to the merge? how do i submit it to gerrit? [16:15:36] DanielK_WMDE: git merge --no-ff [16:15:47] 03(mod) SkinTemplate's menu generating functions should fill up all indices they might ever provide with nulls - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40861 (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [16:15:48] DanielK_WMDE: it might have been fast forwarded [16:16:10] o_O [16:16:17] will try. though i don't understand :) [16:16:19] 03(mod) CologneBlue Invalid argument supplied for foreach() - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40857 +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [16:17:08] 03(UNCONFIRMED) Error Message - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40858 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [16:17:10] hashar: yes, that worked, thank you! [16:17:28] DanielK_WMDE: you are the boss :-] [16:20:53] Change merged: Daniel Werner; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27187 [16:22:41] Is there any 'more robust' way to avoid edit conflicts, other than just setting basetimestamp when using the API? For example, should other parameters also be set? [16:23:10] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "Merge branch 'Wikidata' into master." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27194 [16:24:08] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "The actual merge request is I3804e2d5" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27191 [16:24:36] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27182 [16:25:06] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27155 [16:26:10] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "See https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27191 instead" [mediawiki/core] (Wikidata) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25736 [16:26:35] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27156 [16:27:07] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27162 [16:27:42] 03(mod) dump more tables from FlaggedRevs on WMF wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35975 +comment (10Umherirrender) [16:32:53] 03(NEW) Please add a link back to Special:AbuseFilter in in Special:AbuseFilter/ - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40862 enhancement; MediaWiki extensions: AbuseFilter; (maurelio) [16:33:21] 03(mod) Please add a link back to Special:AbuseFilter in Special:AbuseFilter/ - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40862 summary (10Marco Aurelio) [16:36:04] brianmc: i don't think so. [16:41:48] DanielK_WMDE, ideally I think you should be passing the revid that you're editing - or an md5 of the content of the page before you touch it. [16:45:47] 03(NEW) Undefined variable: valuecolumn in SMW_SQLStore3_Readers.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40863 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; (yaron57) [16:51:28] New review: Matmarex; "PS3 is pretty much just a rebase with some comment and variable name chages?" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/21873 [16:54:28] 03(mod) Set Transwiki namespace on Chinese wikimedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40474 +comment (10shi zhao) [16:59:46] 03(NEW) Fatal error when saving pages with SMWSQLStore3 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40864 blocker; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; (yaron57) [17:09:24] New review: Reedy; "Who's getting the honours then?" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27194 [17:15:19] 03(FIXED) Please remove some namespaces from es.wikibooks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40838 +comment (10Dereckson) [17:16:04] Hello. Is there a way to have inline preformatted text? 
 is not ok for me because it is not inline;  is also not ok because it doesn't preserve multiple spaces
[17:16:27] 	 03(VERIFIED) Please remove some namespaces from es.wikibooks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40838  +comment (10Dereckson)
[17:19:01] 	 03(mod) Renaming namespace on gu.wiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40776  +comment (10Dereckson)
[17:19:58] 	 03(FIXED) Enable subpages in User namespace on kkwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40795  +comment (10Dereckson)
[17:23:01] 	 New review: Siebrand; "I thought it would be TimStarling/Tim-away" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27194
[17:23:12] 	 03(VERIFIED) Enable subpages in User namespace on kkwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40795  +comment (10Dereckson)
[17:23:26] 	 03(mod) Please remove some namespaces from es.wikibooks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40838  +comment (10Marco Aurelio)
[17:23:35] 	 03(NEW) "Data repair and upgrade" in Special:SMWAdmin doesn't populate SMWSQLStore3 tables - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40865 major; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; (yaron57)
[17:24:51] 	 03(mod) Enable subpages in User namespace on kkwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40795  +comment (10Bolatbek)
[17:27:10] 	 03(mod) New namespaces for Kazakh Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40794  +comment (10Dereckson)
[17:27:38] 	 03(mod) Please remove some namespaces from es.wikibooks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40838  +comment (10Dereckson)
[17:27:55] 	 03(mod) Enable subpages in User namespace on kkwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40795  +comment (10Dereckson)
[17:34:02] 	 I found a possible solution: using multiple consecutive  
[17:36:55] 	 ok now that i've gotten my images issue fixed, how do i force it so that users have to be logged in to edit wiki articles?
[17:37:02] 	 as of right now, i can edit wiki articles without being logged in
[17:38:58] 	 Remove the edit right from * and make sure the it is assigned to user
[17:39:10] 	 $wgGroupPermissions['*']['edit'] = false;
[17:39:45] 	 At the bottom of your LocalSettings.php
[17:40:21] 	 looking now
[17:41:41] 	 i don't have a $wgGroupPermissions in my LocalSettings.php
[17:42:41] 	 You add that line
[17:42:45] 	 however i see that in my DefaultSettings.php, how would one go about changing that from being the default setting?
[17:42:55] 	 You don't edit defaultSettings.php
[17:42:59] 	 yeah
[17:43:10] 	 ok do i just add that line to the bottom of the LocalSettings.php page?
[17:43:10] 	 putting the line I told you in LocalSettings.php will override DefaultSettings.php
[17:44:29] 	 looks like that did the trick, thank you @ty
[17:45:13] 	 My pleasure :)
[17:45:32] 	 New review: Reedy; "I seem to recall Chad saying to Daniel that it'd be today or tomorrow..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27194
[17:51:40] 	 Reedy: will try to fix this https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26954 :)
[17:52:16] 	 The rebase is a bit quirky
[17:52:24] 	 it looks like other code was also updated in trunk
[17:53:19] 	 it was accidentally different branch which ^demon already deleted, so this commit is not in master, it's really nowhere
[17:55:12] 	 Reedy: git diff r26954 ^master^^  says ... nothing :)
[17:55:44] * Reedy  shrugs
[17:55:57] 	 Change abandoned: saper; "it changes nothing to master as the original patch is gone" [mediawiki/extensions/ProofreadPage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26954
[17:56:35] 	 New review: RobLa; "Putting a -2 on this so that no one accidentally submits this version.  Not a reflection of my opini..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27191
[17:56:52] 	 Change restored: saper; "Attempt to restore the change to the Review-in-Progress state" [mediawiki/extensions/ProofreadPage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26947
[17:57:13] 	 Change abandoned: saper; "(no reason)" [mediawiki/extensions/ProofreadPage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26947
[17:58:58] 	 Reedy: will just resubmit this change for review, rebased
[17:59:42] 	 New review: Aude; "We have been working off the branch for a while and it's now stable and think we have resolved all t..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27194
[18:00:02] 	 merge it merge it! :)
[18:01:51] 	 New review: RobLa; "Let's give Tim one last chance to look at this, and then submit on Tuesday if he hasn't pressed the ..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27194
[18:03:52] 	 New patchset: Matthias Mullie; "Refactor AFT backend" [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24264
[18:04:04] 	 New patchset: Matthias Mullie; "implement CAS in BagOStuff" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25879
[18:05:45] 	 03(FIXED) Windows 8 app: accept incoming text sharing to perform searches - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39851  +comment (10Brion Vibber)
[18:06:14] 	 03(FIXED) Windows 8 app: share while text is selected should share the selected text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40806  +comment (10Brion Vibber)
[18:06:37] 	 03(FIXED) Windows 8 app: set keyboard focus for navigation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40246  +comment (10Brion Vibber)
[18:10:23] 	 I am hoping that someone can assist with an issue I have with 19.2 just installed on an existing Wiki. After the install the spam filter is blocking parts of words. Is there a means to whitelist words not URLs to allow posting?
[18:12:30] 	 03(mod) New "link=" parameter in [[Image: - cannot link to Media: - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/16409  +comment (10Capmo)
[18:13:03] 	 TeraS: which spam filter? :)
[18:13:17] 	 maybe you have a misconfigured blacklist
[18:13:47] 	 I have nothing save the antispam issues that come with the install. Both my black and whitelist are empty and are as they come with the install
[18:14:12] 	 Sorry, basic antispam measures
[18:14:24] 	 New patchset: Siebrand; "User preference 'minordefault' was removed from core" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticForms] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27196
[18:14:48] 	 Trying to add the words to the whitelist will cause them to be blocked from being added as well
[18:15:35] 	 New patchset: Siebrand; "Reduce user preference clutter by removing 'minordefault'" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27197
[18:16:32] 	 New review: Nikerabbit; "Btw WMF has puppet manifest for Solr, but not yet for Solarium. Right now Translate extension is bun..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27190
[18:18:07] 	 New patchset: Siebrand; "Reduce user preference clutter by removing 'minordefault'" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27197
[18:18:19] 	 03(mod) CologneBlue Invalid argument supplied for foreach() - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40857  +comment (10Niklas Laxström)
[18:19:45] 	 MatmaRex: If someone could give me a regex to use for a word, any word, I can try to add that, I have no idea how to set up a regex for the black/whitelists
[18:20:29] 	 New review: Hoo man; "I'm not sure about this one, there actually are people around who use this..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27197
[18:21:20] 	 New patchset: Siebrand; "Release notes tweaks." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27198
[18:22:59] 	 TeraS: harder than it looks, unfortunately
[18:23:33] 	 but that... weird. sorry, i cant really help you, i'm not an expert in MW internals
[18:24:30] 	 New patchset: Siebrand; "Reduce user preference clutter by removing 'minordefault'" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27197
[18:24:51] 	 MatmaRex That's okay, I understand. It's weird because it is triggering on words like naughty or spammer and so on which I do want in the wiki as they are describing a situation. I'll have to keep searching for a solution. Thanks again!
[18:25:03] 	 New review: Denny Vrandecic; "You do not want to bundle Solarium, or not use Solarium at all?" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: -2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27190
[18:25:19] 	 TeraS: can you point me to the wiki? or copy the exact error message?
[18:26:28] 	 It is a log in to edit wiki, but the error message is:Spam protection filter The text you wanted to save was blocked by the spam filter. This is probably caused by a link to a blacklisted external site.  The following text is what triggered our spam filter: spam
[18:26:50] 	 The word was spammer, so it took a part of the word and blocked the entry
[18:29:29] 	 New patchset: saper; "(bug 37419) Rewriting of Index pages edit form in PHP" [mediawiki/extensions/ProofreadPage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27199
[18:31:13] 	 can somebody help me with a database (I think) problem I have encountered?
[18:32:46] 	 New review: Nikerabbit; "I do want to use Solarium, but not bundle it with Translate. I would like it to come via puppet. :)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27190
[18:33:36] 	 New review: saper; "Everyone, as this change (gerrit change 10741) got closed by accident with a wonderful history, I ha..." [mediawiki/extensions/ProofreadPage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/10741
[18:34:43] 	 TeraS: have you overriden the $wgSummarySpamRegex config variable, maybe?
[18:35:00] 	 (i don't know this tuff, i'm just looking at the source code around where this message is generated)
[18:35:04] 	 stuff*
[18:35:07] 	 New review: Siebrand; "Fixed in follow-up PS." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27197
[18:35:24] 	 Checking the localsettings, one moment please?
[18:36:08] 	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Registered classes and interfaces in autoloader and added preliminary tests" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27200
[18:36:25] 	 Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27198
[18:37:16] 	 TeraS: or $wgSpamRegex?
[18:37:36] 	 New review: Denny Vrandecic; "Great, thank you for the hints!" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: -2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27190
[18:37:42] 	 New patchset: Siebrand; "Reduce user preference clutter by removing 'underline'" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27201
[18:38:24] 	 There is no line with that string on it in localsettings
[18:38:25] 	 TeraS: it's either one of these two, or maybe some antispam extensions, i think.
[18:38:54] 	 The thing is, I have no other antispam extensions on the wiki
[18:40:52] 	 !debug | TeraS
[18:40:52] 	 TeraS: For information on debugging (including viewing errors), see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:How_to_debug . A list of related configuration variables is at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Configuration_settings#Debug.2Flogging
[18:41:20] 	 try enabling logging and looking at the logs
[18:41:29] 	 there should probably be something about blocked edits there
[18:42:24] 	 I'll give that a try... back asap
[18:43:50] 	 New patchset: Siebrand; "Reduce user preference clutter by removing 'nocache'" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27202
[18:44:54] 	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Ignore init code in coverage" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27203
[18:46:16] 	 New patchset: Siebrand; "Update error version to 1.21." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27204
[18:47:15] 	 New review: Matmarex; "This one is probably widely used and kinda useful." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27197
[18:47:59] 	 New patchset: Siebrand; "Update version to 1.21." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27204
[18:48:34] 	 03(mod) Wikidata should not return 406 Not Acceptable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40032  (10Daniel Kinzler)
[18:49:02] 	 New patchset: Amire80; "Updated util functions names after refactoring" [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27124
[18:50:05] 	 MatmaRex The debug only says that it was blocked, but not by what. I can't even add the word to the whitelist because that edit is blocked. Just really weird
[18:51:21] 	 New patchset: Amire80; "Updated util functions names after refactoring" [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27124
[18:51:47] 	 TeraS: are you sure there isnt anything weird in your [[MediaWiki:Spam-blacklist]]?
[18:52:13] 	 can somebody help me with a database issue I'm having?
[18:52:33] 	 hm, wait, this seems to be added by an extension.
[18:52:59] 	 !ask | bearbin
[18:53:00] 	 bearbin: Hi, how can we help you? Just ask your question.
[18:53:01] 	 i am running mediawiki using sqlite, but i put my database in the wrong place. so i updated the place in my localsettings, and moved it, now I cna't access wht wiki
[18:53:18] 	 can't*
[18:53:22] 	 could be a permission issue
[18:53:34] 	 That's the Blacklist extension yes, which I do not run
[18:53:50] 	 it gives a database error: "Error: 14 unable to open database file", 
[18:54:07] 	 Nikerabbit, i chmodded it to 777, and it still shows?
[18:54:27] 	 sre you *sure* this file is where it's supposed to be? :)
[18:54:35] 	 i'll just check
[18:55:20] 	 bearbin: also the parent directory?
[18:55:33] 	 Nikerabbit, yes
[18:55:39] 	 MatmaRex, yep, i just checked
[18:57:05] 	 ok
[18:57:31] 	 I fixed it, the parent directory was in wthe www-data group, but not with permissions for www-data to access it
[18:57:39] 	 New review: Siebrand; "@Matmarex: Sure. 0% of users on my development wiki is using it." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27197
[18:57:53] 	 thanks for the help
[18:58:22] 	 New review: Siebrand; "Depends on I5139d8ec." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticForms] (master); V: 0 C: -2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27196
[18:58:34] 	 New patchset: Daniel Werner; "Fixed message displayed if max number of site-links is reached (JS version)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27205
[18:58:34] 	 New patchset: Daniel Werner; "Renamed wb.ui.StateExtension to wb.utilities.ui.StateExtension" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27169
[19:01:17] 	 New patchset: Siebrand; "Reduce user preference clutter by removing 'justify'" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27206
[19:02:30] 	 Thank you for the thoughts MatmaRex... I'll keep at this and see if I can resolve it... Have a great day!
[19:03:14] 	 New review: Matmarex; "Oh, that's helpful. I have no issues with this change now, please continue." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27197
[19:07:33] 	 New patchset: Daniel Werner; "Improved logic of PropertyEditTool.setState/getState()" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27207
[19:10:37] 	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Added adittional tests for the ApiSerializers" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27208
[19:11:13] 	 i'm struggling w/ the "loss of session data error".
[19:11:27] 	 it appears the session is being created at /var/lib/php/sessions.
[19:11:39] 	 but the wiki can't seem to find it to save the data.
[19:18:08] 	 Is WMF still using Selenium? I saw some comments on mediawiki.org from Sumanah about dropping it (??)
[19:18:57] 	 Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27174
[19:19:17] 	 03(NEW) Remove $wgOldChangeTagsIndex - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40866 normal; MediaWiki: Database; (sam)
[19:19:39] 	 renfro: chrismcmahon and zeljko are working with it, but they're not here
[19:20:02] 	 renfro: We plan to release some browser tests soon, IIRC
[19:20:33] 	 renfro: I don't know how far they've gone, but my contribution to it was at https://gitorious.org/mwe-upwiz-testing/mwe-upwiz-testing
[19:20:55] 	 My group is looking into automated tests and I dont' want to setup something that's outdated/unsupported, etc.
[19:21:35] 	 marktraceur:  well, at least I know someone is working on something, so it can't be totally deprecated
[19:21:44] 	 03(mod) Remove $wgOldChangeTagsIndex - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40866  (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[19:21:45] 	 renfro: It's not, we're definitely looking for it. I think they mailed a list, actually, one sec
[19:21:46] 	 03(NEW) Update change tag indexes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40867 normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (sam)
[19:22:10] 	 marktraceur:  sweet, maybe I can contribute once I figure stuff out
[19:23:23] 	 renfro: I lied, they didn't mail the list. But they're working on selenium testing and will definitely be in touch about it :)
[19:24:10] 	 marktraceur:  well, that at least lets me know that if I spend a few days installing/trying-it-out that it's not wasted time
[19:24:12] 	 thanks man
[19:25:26] 	 could somebody please review https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/23674/ ? i'd like this to be merged before next deployment :)
[19:28:55] 	 New patchset: Matthias Mullie; "implement CAS in BagOStuff" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25879
[19:29:18] 	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Added SnanksSerializer" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27209
[19:29:47] 	 Change merged: Nikerabbit; [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27124
[19:30:03] 	 New review: Matthias Mullie; "Still need to test extensively" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25879
[19:30:06] 	 hi
[19:30:17] 	 is there a wiki syntax to render the current page title?
[19:30:18] 	 hi
[19:30:27] 	 without using extensions
[19:30:28] 	 {{PAGENAME}} ?
[19:30:32] 	 thanks
[19:30:46] 	 03(mod) Update change tag indexes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40867  (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[19:30:47] 	 03(mod) Database table cleanup (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/16660  (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[19:30:48] 	 03(mod) Remove $wgOldChangeTagsIndex - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40866  (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[19:30:50] 	 03(mod) Database table cleanup (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/16660  (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[19:31:05] 	 perfect Krenair, thanks
[19:31:13] 	 youre welcome :)
[19:32:37] 	 Zopieux, see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Magic_words#Page_names
[19:32:41] 	 Change abandoned: Tpt; "Duplicate of change https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/26948/" [mediawiki/extensions/ProofreadPage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27199
[19:33:14] 	 hell, this was the next tab I was going to read before asking here, but I forgot to visit it :D
[19:33:51] 	 New review: John Erling Blad; "Run a few tests, seems okey, but it needs further checks and verifications. That is short for I don'..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 1 C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27178
[19:34:14] 	 New review: Madman; "Per Reedy's comment and my inline comment re: hooks." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27133
[19:35:01] 	 MatmaRex: Wish I could merge it for you, but I don't have core commit yet :)
[19:35:48] 	 New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "Further checks are provided in follow up commits" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27178
[19:35:49] 	 Change merged: Denny Vrandecic; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27185
[19:35:49] 	 Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27178
[19:38:10] 	 marktraceur: yet :)
[19:38:43] 	 marktraceur: i'd appreciate a review, though, if you have time :)
[19:40:48] 	 New patchset: Madman; "(bug 39688) action=info displays misleading edit history for redlinks" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22880
[19:42:40] 	 New patchset: Madman; "(bug 39688) action=info displays misleading edit history for redlinks * Will not display edit history and properties for nonexistent pages * Will not display misleading page information for noncurrent revisions" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22880
[19:43:08] 	 03(mod) Update change tag indexes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40867  +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[19:49:09] 	 New patchset: Amire80; "Refactor font selection HTML" [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27210
[19:50:45] 	 New patchset: saper; "(bug 37483) Create index and page namespaces automatically if not set" [mediawiki/extensions/ProofreadPage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17643
[19:51:07] 	 03(mod) New namespaces for Kazakh Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40794  +comment (10Bolatbek)
[19:53:16] 	 New review: Amire80; "Disregard the topic name - I started it out as a solution to bug 39531, but the actual fix will be i..." [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27210
[19:53:50] 	 New review: John Erling Blad; "Did a quick review and checked if everything worked. So far as I can say it is working." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 1 C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27188
[19:56:03] 	 still debugging session problems; my error logs shows this: User: cache miss for user 1
[19:56:40] 	 hmm. and this: User::matchEditToken: broken session data
[19:56:48] 	 inside the 'Edit' section.
[19:57:01] 	 and a failed token check.
[19:57:15] 	 where should i be looking to fix this? thank you.
[20:01:31] 	 03(mod) Expose MediaWiki info action's page watchers value to more users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39957  +comment (10Tyler Romeo)
[20:03:16] 	 03(mod) Update change tag indexes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40867  +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[20:06:57] 	 New review: John Erling Blad; "A quick first review" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 1 C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27200
[20:07:42] 	 03(NEW) AbuseFilter Column 'afl_user' cannot be null - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40868 normal; MediaWiki extensions: AbuseFilter; (sam)
[20:08:15] 	 New patchset: Daniel Werner; "Display disabled button for site-links 'add' if site-links are full (non-JS)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27211
[20:17:35] 	 New review: John Erling Blad; "Seems okey." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 1 C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27208
[20:17:44] 	 Brooke: 1.20wmf3. Interesting.
[20:17:55] 	 Yeah.
[20:18:16] 	 I guess they just picked a dev version arbitrarily?
[20:18:32] 	 The skin was more interesting to me.
[20:18:34] 	 Probably picked the latest WMF-deployed version at the time.
[20:18:52] 	 Hello, why has api.php?action=query&prop=extracts been removed?
[20:19:39] 	 For example https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&prop=extracts&titles=Earth&format=jsonfm used to give all the text of the article.
[20:20:08] 	 That wasn't a core module...
[20:20:17] 	 I think it might've been mobile related
[20:20:19] 	 MaxSem: ^^ ?
[20:20:35] 	 03(mod) Bug and feature requests related to Wikimedia Commons (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37883  (10Dereckson)
[20:20:35] 	 03(mod) Wikimedia Commons should support searching by color - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37534  (10Dereckson)
[20:20:49] 	 no, it's in MF atm
[20:20:56] 	 It's part of MobileFrontend: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MobileFrontend#prop.3Dextracts
[20:20:59] 	 03(mod) Wikimedia Commons should support filtering by color - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37535  (10Dereckson)
[20:20:59] 	 03(mod) Bug and feature requests related to Wikimedia Commons (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37883  (10Dereckson)
[20:21:09] 	 But he's right, it's not showing on enwiki..
[20:21:20] 	 It's there in 1.20wmf12
[20:21:23] 	 not in 1.21wmf1
[20:21:43] 	 did someone "refactor" ApiMain?
[20:22:14] 	 https://github.com/mediawiki/core/commits/master/includes/api/ApiMain.php
[20:22:36] 	 Looks like Tims api log is the only recent real change...
[20:23:13] 	 if ( version_compare( $wgVersion, '1.20alpha', '<' ) ) {
[20:23:13] 	 	$wgAPIPropModules['extracts'] = 'ApiQueryExtracts';
[20:23:13] 	 }
[20:23:21] 	 MaxSem: ^ I bet its shitty version comparing
[20:23:46] 	 hahaha
[20:23:49] 	 > var_dump( $wgAPIPropModules );
[20:23:49] 	 array(2) {
[20:23:49] 	   ["globalusage"]=>
[20:23:49] 	   string(19) "ApiQueryGlobalUsage"
[20:23:49] 	   ["flagged"]=>
[20:23:50] 	   string(15) "ApiQueryFlagged"
[20:23:54] 	 New review: Nikerabbit; "Just FYI: http://pragmaticly.github.com/smart-time-ago/" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15746
[20:23:54] 	 not shitty, too optimistic
[20:23:54] 	 Yup
[20:24:01] 	 github whatt
[20:24:06] 	 IT'S BROKEN
[20:24:15] 	 Brooke: much quicker for browsing and blame than gitweb
[20:24:21] 	 It's mirroring, dontyaknow
[20:24:25] 	 I didn't realize replication was live/working.
[20:24:26] 	 Reedy, fixing
[20:24:33] 	 zoopp: ^ Wasn't done on purpose
[20:24:33] 	 Yeah, Gitweb is punishment.
[20:24:46] 	 Chad fixed/did it last week
[20:24:49] 	 Brooke, don't you read wikitech-l?
[20:25:01] 	 Krenair: Occasionally.
[20:25:07] 	 Shit breaks a lot.
[20:25:16] 	 srsly
[20:25:20] 	 http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2012-October/063644.html
[20:25:34] 	 Krenair: That was nearly a week ago. ;-)
[20:25:35] 	 Ah, alright then
[20:25:42] 	 It could be horribly broken by now.
[20:26:20] 	 https://mail.google.com/mail/help/promos/tap/index.html hmm curious
[20:26:51] 	 Heh.
[20:26:58] 	 That's an old April 1 joke, isn't it?
[20:27:06] 	 Reedy, https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26726
[20:27:22] 	 I mean https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27251
[20:27:46] 	 Merged that one too
[20:28:05] 	 Do you want to deploy it?
[20:28:16] 	 sure
[20:29:45] 	 oh shi---
[20:29:51] 	 there are other changes
[20:30:28] 	 Dantman: are you going to update https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/4055/1 ?
[20:30:49] 	 Reedy, should I make a special branch for WMF deployment or live hack until tomorrow's scheduled deployment?
[20:30:57] 	 New review: John Erling Blad; "Seems good." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 1 C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27209
[20:31:11] 	 One day I suppose I should update that
[20:33:23] 	 Reedy, ^^
[20:33:27] 	 Ughhhhh
[20:34:29] 	 New review: Nikerabbit; "Some small issues left. Lets try to get this in and then improve further as needed." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7986
[20:34:48] 	 MaxSem: or it could just be live hacked till tomorrow..
[20:35:00] 	 okay
[20:35:30] 	 03(NEW) API has 2 methods of setting cache mode - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40869 normal; MediaWiki: API; (sam)
[20:35:37] 	 Are you gonne be deploying?
[20:36:02] 	 currently live hacking it
[20:36:39] 	 I mean, Are you going to be doing the deployment tomorrow?
[20:37:07] 	 yes, we have a deployment tomorrow
[20:37:12] 	 Any ETA until I'll be able to use that query again?
[20:37:47] 	 zoopp: a few minutes or so
[20:38:05] 	 Alright thank you very much :)
[20:39:12] 	 New review: John Erling Blad; "There was 1 failure:" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: -1 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27211
[20:39:36] 	 Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27204
[20:41:01] 	 03(NEW) Sorting files in category by size - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40870 enhancement; MediaWiki: Categories; (meneldur)
[20:41:59] 	 zoopp, works now
[20:43:21] 	 Thank you! :)
[20:44:28] 	 MatmaRex: (re: review) I think the other two reviews oughta do it--the most I can do is slow down your review process by making more demands :P
[20:46:16] 	 New review: John Erling Blad; "There was 1 failure:" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: -1 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27207
[20:47:11] 	 marktraceur: :)
[20:48:51] 	 Nikerabbit, Another issue with those two commits was that stuff was added by some random WMF employee an there's no-one around who understands that code to review it.
[20:51:33] 	 anybody with +2 in core available? here's a straightforward JS patch i'm trying to get merged in time for next deployment, waiting for almost a month now: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/23674/
[20:52:01] 	 New review: Hashar; "Looks like some test took to long to execute, possibly because of some language recaching." [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27238
[20:53:27] 	 New patchset: Nikerabbit; "Add parameters to LanguageQqx-generated messages." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9214
[20:54:02] 	 Dantman: I'm pretty sure Santhosh does
[20:54:20] 	 New review: John Erling Blad; "There was 1 failure:" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: -1 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27205
[20:54:26] 	 New patchset: Nikerabbit; "Add parameters to LanguageQqx-generated messages." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9214
[20:55:55] 	 03(mod) Sorting files in category by size - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40870  +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[20:56:01] 	 ^ that's gotta be a dupe
[20:57:25] 	 New review: Martineznovo; "Matmarex, Hoo man: Maybe you want to look/comment on http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comm..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27197
[20:59:02] 	 03(FIXED)  in headings is ignored when the heading is shown in table of contents - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35167  (10Amir E. Aharoni)
[21:01:23] 	 03(mod) Sorting files in category by size - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40870   +performance (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[21:02:14] 	 New review: John Erling Blad; "There was 1 failure:" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: -1 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27169
[21:06:11] 	 Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaMaintenance] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25699
[21:08:32] 	 New review: Reedy; "Sounds like it's worth just adding a (slightly relevant) placeholder message?" [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaMessages] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26907
[21:08:51] 	 New patchset: Daniel Werner; "Fixed bug introduced in I6fb93b46, fix failing selenium test" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27252
[21:10:38] 	 03(mod) Sorting files in category by size - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40870   +design; +comment (10Dereckson)
[21:10:38] 	 03(mod) Bug and feature requests related to Wikimedia Commons (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37883  (10Dereckson)
[21:11:38] 	 New review: Nikerabbit; "Took away wfMsgReplaceArgs to give some incentive to use the Message class." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9214
[21:11:40] 	 Change merged: Nikerabbit; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9214
[21:16:41] 	 03(VERIFIED) The  tag is sanitized - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31817  +comment (10Amir E. Aharoni)
[21:20:28] 	 New review: Nikerabbit; "Looks good apart from one minor issues. Also should rebased." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/20515
[21:22:02] 	 New review: John Erling Blad; "Seems okey as far as I can check." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27173
[21:22:02] 	 Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27173
[21:24:58] 	 New review: Nikerabbit; "Amir?" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24288
[21:26:01] 	 hello! can you help me with iframes a bit? on my main website, I have an iframe with MediaWiki located in subdomain. I have set up FrameOptions and document.domain, turned off breaking frames... pages display nicely. but editing doesn't work: I get headers from MW, but no html.
[21:26:35] 	 I guess somewhere there there's a condition that disregards frame options and breaks frame for editing anyway.
[21:27:06] 	 see wgEditPageFrameOptions
[21:27:17] 	 I have it set to 'SAMEORIGIN'.
[21:27:42] 	 Can anyone tell me why I can not add myself to a group?
[21:27:45] 	 and I get 'SAMEORIGIN' in X-frame-options in headers.
[21:28:42] 	 I guess you need to debug the javascript which does it
[21:29:26] 	 !Can anyone tell me why I can not add myself to a group?
[21:29:26] 	 There is no such key, you probably want to try: !ask, !bot, !botnoob, !cache, !chanspam, !colon, !commons, !config, !createpage, !csv2wp, !deleteuser, !documentation, !download, !edittoken, !extensiondistributor, !extensions, !extranamespace, !faq, !farm, !filesize, !gerriterror, !gitcheat, !hosting, !iframe, !imagelink, !imagemagic, !import, !install, !instantcommons, !interface, !lazy, !mediawiki, !memcached, !multiplewiki, !nofollow, !nullpath, !paranoid, !protect, !redirect, !refresh, !revdelete, !safemode, !sandbox, !security, !sharedlogins, !shell, !sortkey, !sorttable, !subpages, !subst, !support, !svnprops, !tabcompletion, !telepathy, !templateproblems, !toc, !tooquiet, !transclusion, !translatewiki, !undo, !useful, !userapproval, !variables, !vulnerability, !wiki, !wikiacode, !wikipedia, !worstcase, 
[21:29:38] 	 !ask
[21:29:39] 	 Hi, how can we help you? Just ask your question.
[21:29:40] 	 !group
[21:29:40] 	 There is no such key, you probably want to try: !autoconfirmed, !emailconfirmed, !newusergroup, !ppp, !protect, !rightssql, !sitenotice, !smw, !userapproval, 
[21:29:53] 	 !newusergroup
[21:29:53] 	 To create a new usergroup, simply set permissions for that group in LocalSettings.php, using $wgGroupPermissions. Then, simply add users to that group
[21:29:55] 	 !smw
[21:29:56] 	 SemanticMediaWiki is an awesome extension that lets you connect wiki pages with semantic relations. See  and . Mailing lists are available at 
[21:30:11] 	 no, the request to display the editing page is sent and answered properly. but headers only, no html.
[21:32:48] 	 it's clearly a deliberate break by the engine, since non-sensitive pages display normally.
[21:34:28] 	 New patchset: Nikerabbit; "Less globals" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27253
[21:34:46] 	 New review: John Erling Blad; "There was 1 failure:" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: -1 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27252
[21:35:00] 	 !help
[21:35:00] 	 http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:$1
[21:35:12] 	 !copy group permissions
[21:35:12] 	 There are multiple keys, refine your input: copyhelp, copying, copyinghelp, copytemplates, 
[21:35:21] 	 !groups
[21:35:21] 	 For information on customizing user access, see < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:User_rights >. For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access >.
[21:35:46] 	 New review: John Erling Blad; "This error should not happen, as it is triggered by the testing in phpunit. Will try a rebase." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: -1 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27252
[21:38:59] 	 anyone???
[21:39:29] 	 "Can anyone tell me why I can not add myself to a group?" can you clarify that?
[21:39:49] 	 too late.
[21:45:54] 	 there really should be a more useful !help command.
[21:47:05] 	 {{sofixit}}
[21:47:19] 	 i dont tink the bot will isten to me when i try to redefine a command.
[21:47:25] 	 think* listen*
[21:47:50] 	 Yeah.. I suspect your hostmask isn't allowed
[21:47:59] 	 {{sofixit}} ~
[21:48:45] 	 it should probably link to https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Sysadmin_hub
[21:48:50] 	 unless there's a batter page
[21:49:00] 	 That'd be on enwiki
[21:49:03] 	 Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27253
[21:49:10] 	 better*
[21:49:29] 	 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batter
[21:49:53] * marktraceur  enjoys being helpful
[21:50:00] 	 ty
[21:50:02] 	 New review: Siebrand; "Doesn't merge cleanly." [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master); V: -1 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/19457
[21:50:18] 	 Being obstinate, however, is much more entertaining
[21:50:43] 	 That's much batter.
[21:50:48] 	 !help
[21:50:48] 	 http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:$1
[21:50:56] 	 !halp
[21:51:20] 	 !helpfor is http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:$1
[21:51:20] 	 Key was added
[21:51:43] 	 (I may be breaking someone's idea of what !help should be, but it seems reasonable)
[21:53:11] 	 lol
[21:53:25] 	 !help is There are a lot of topics you could be asking about. Besides, this bot is mostly for experienced users to quickly answer common questions. Please just ask your question and wait patiently, as the best person to answer your question may be away for a few minutes or longer.
[21:53:26] 	 Key was added
[21:53:30] 	 !help
[21:53:30] 	 There are a lot of topics you could be asking about. Besides, this bot is mostly for experienced users to quickly answer common questions. Please just ask your question and wait patiently, as the best person to answer your question may be away for a few minutes or longer.
[21:53:35] 	 IT WORKS
[21:53:49] 	 i have yet to see someone use !help the previous way (although i may not have been here too long)
[21:53:55] 	 Reedy: What does?
[21:54:06] 	 !help does
[21:54:07] 	 There are a lot of topics you could be asking about. Besides, this bot is mostly for experienced users to quickly answer common questions. Please just ask your question and wait patiently, as the best person to answer your question may be away for a few minutes or longer.
[21:54:12] 	 MatmaRex: Agreed, and that seems like a good way to do it
[21:54:19] 	 Hm, actually
[21:54:28] 	 nice message, but i'd add the link, too.
[21:54:31] 	 !help is There are a lot of topics you could be asking about. Besides, this bot is mostly for experienced users to quickly answer common questions. Please just ask your question and wait patiently, as the best person to answer your question may be away for a few minutes or longer. If you're looking for help pages, we moved that to !helpfor.
[21:54:31] 	 This key already exist - remove it, if you want to change it
[21:54:54] 	 MatmaRex: There are too many possible topics they could want....I can't specialize that much
[21:55:07] 	 !help del
[21:55:07] 	 Successfully removed help
[21:55:10] 	 !help is There are a lot of topics you could be asking about. Besides, this bot is mostly for experienced users to quickly answer common questions. Please just ask your question and wait patiently, as the best person to answer your question may be away for a few minutes or longer. If you're looking for help pages, we moved that to !helpfor.
[21:55:10] 	 Key was added
[21:55:34] 	 actually, yeah, you might be right
[21:55:46] 	 but i'd say most people are looking for sysadmin help, at least those i've seen
[21:56:30] 	 MatmaRex: True....let's add a key for that, then
[21:56:53] 	 !sysadmin is https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Sysadmin_hub
[21:56:53] 	 Key was added
[22:02:56] 	 New patchset: Reedy; "Add basic query=translateinfo API method to Translate." [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/19457
[22:04:09] 	 New patchset: Parent5446; "Cleaned up Hooks code, comments, and documentation." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27255
[22:29:07] 	 03(mod) Cached UA agent failures cause broken CSS. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40856  +comment (10PleaseStand)
[22:35:39] 	 03(mod) Can't change E-Mail address in bugzilla.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40625  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[22:39:50] 	 03(mod) Can't change E-Mail address in bugzilla.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40625  +comment (10Thehelpfulone)
[22:48:07] 	 03(mod) Can't change E-Mail address in bugzilla.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40625  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[22:52:04] 	 New patchset: Reedy; "These temporary messages aren't needed anymore" [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaMessages] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26907
[22:53:11] 	 New patchset: Siebrand; "Reduce user preference clutter by removing "Size of editing window"" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27257
[23:02:26] 	 hello irc, i'm using HTMLForm to load a request and my hidden fields don't get loaded in to the public HTMLForm::mFieldData[] array after a call to  HTMLForm::loadData()
[23:02:39] 	 how can i load the data from the hidden the fields?
[23:07:24] 	 New patchset: Siebrand; "Reduce user preference clutter by making 'editsection' non-changeable" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27258
[23:10:35] 	 does anyone know name of the extension for sending welcome message to new users?
[23:18:18] 	 New patchset: Siebrand; "Remove preferences for edit on double and right click" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27259
[23:18:43] 	 NewUserMessage
[23:20:55] 	 TimStarling, thanks
[23:21:53] 	 New patchset: Tim Starling; "(bug 16020) Fix race condition in User::addToDatabase()" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27260
[23:22:47] 	 will it use the existing template message to send or send its own generic message?
[23:23:21] 	 have you read the documentation?
[23:25:13] 	 yes, just finished reading
[23:25:31] 	 and now I know that it lets us select the template
[23:25:32] 	 > Bugzilla allows you to view and track the state of the bug database in all manner of exciting ways.
[23:25:46] 	 New review: Eloquence; "Is this based on metrics of current usage of these features? If so, please add to the commit summary." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27259
[23:25:54] 	 Bugzilla seems to know that nobody reads this text, so they make it as silly as possible.
[23:26:20] 	 New patchset: Tim Starling; "Update User::addToDatabase() for I1f6ef5e6319bfe692fb82a3fa50dc66c9fde8f15" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralAuth] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27261
[23:27:01] 	 hi there, im having an issue getting this template to work:
[23:27:02] 	 http://pastebin.com/yhxphCMx
[23:27:30] 	 Whats wrong with it?
[23:28:06] 	 New patchset: Tim Starling; "Update User::addToDatabase() call for I1f6ef5e6319bfe692fb82a3fa50dc66c9fde8f15" [mediawiki/extensions/LdapAuthentication] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27262
[23:28:11] 	 when im on the page its being templated on, i have {{{image3size|1000x1000px}}} 
[23:28:16] 	 but it doesnt change in size
[23:28:58] 	 New patchset: Matthias Mullie; "implement CAS in BagOStuff" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25879
[23:29:54] 	 New review: Siebrand; "See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Core_user_preferences" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27259
[23:30:27] 	 i know im going wrong somewhere, but I cant see where 
[23:35:10] 	 New patchset: Tim Starling; "Update User::addToDatabase() call for I1f6ef5e6319bfe692fb82a3fa50dc66c9fde8f15" [mediawiki/extensions/SpamBlacklist] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27263
[23:36:13] 	 03(NEW) Install Extension:NewUserMessage on gu.wikipedia and gu.wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40872 normal; MediaWiki extensions: NewUserMessage; (dsvyas)
[23:39:45] 	 New patchset: Matthias Mullie; "Refactor AFT backend" [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24264
[23:40:21] 	 New patchset: Siebrand; "Update User::addToDatabase() call for I1f6ef5e6319bfe692fb82a3fa50dc66c9fde8f15" [mediawiki/extensions/SpamBlacklist] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27263
[23:40:51] 	 New review: Siebrand; "PS2 removes trailing ws from PS1 and reformats the file (some small spacing updates)" [mediawiki/extensions/SpamBlacklist] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27263
[23:42:13] 	 New review: Parent5446; "It would be useful if this could be based on Change-Id: I402c6bebcfe276233cc1f9e16efbe55a034b2181, w..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27260
[23:43:04] 	 New review: Eloquence; "-1; IMO this (and potentially your other pref changes) should be backed up by proper metrics (the cu..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27259
[23:46:59] 	 New review: Siebrand; "Thanks for this reply. Feel free to abandon." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27259