[00:00:02] I hadn't realised you assigned it to me until someone brought it up in the MW team meeting a couple of hours ago [00:00:14] 03(mod) MF beta ribbon doesn't scroll with page on Android Firefox 16 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40902 normal->15enhancement; +comment (10Jon) [00:01:25] 03(mod) MF beta language selector isn't closed by hitting browser/hardware 'back' button - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40904 +comment (10Brion Vibber) [00:02:35] 03(FIXED) Merge the Wikidata ContentHandler branch - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38622 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [00:02:45] 03(mod) MF beta ribbon language button doesn't trigger when scrolled down on page in Chrome on Android - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40903 +comment (10Jon) [00:03:34] 14(DUP) MF beta ribbon doesn't scroll with page on Android Opera 12 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40905 +comment (10Jon) [00:03:36] 03(mod) MF beta ribbon doesn't scroll with page on Android Firefox 16 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40902 +comment (10Jon) [00:04:29] brion: have you got a MF test instance handy? [00:04:40] TimStarling: i do [00:04:47] can you test https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/27382/ ? [00:05:23] sure [00:05:48] thanks [00:05:58] rendering big page…. churning away :) [00:07:46] hmm well that doesn't seem right, all the template links are broken [00:08:27] lemme confirm that it worked before *cough* [00:08:33] heh [00:08:59] New patchset: Siebrand; "Follow-up Ia01c9da5: Fix many escaping issues." [mediawiki/extensions/Collection] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27383 [00:09:00] unless it's giving PHP fatal errors, it's probably not my fault [00:09:00] i think i was missing the templates. ;) trying a different test article [00:09:21] the HTML output after that change should have a limit report HTML comment [00:09:42] and it will use tidy [00:09:44] 03(NEW) ContentHandler renders Scribunto nonoperational - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40908 blocker; MediaWiki extensions: Scribunto; (vasilvv) [00:09:45] otherwise it should be the same [00:09:46] New patchset: Siebrand; "Follow-up Ia01c9da5: Fix many escaping issues." [mediawiki/extensions/Collection] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27383 [00:10:04] TimStarling: How'd you get the stack trace, BTW? From the parser cache key? [00:10:28] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/27377/1/includes/parser/ParserCache.php,unified [00:10:44] 03(mod) ContentHandler renders Scribunto nonoperational - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40908 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [00:10:47] Oh, hah. [00:11:04] Nice. :-) [00:11:07] TimStarling: i think we strip the comments, so it doesn't make it to output [00:11:14] but nothing looks awry in the output :) [00:11:21] ok [00:11:29] MobileFrontend strips HTML comments? To reduce page weight? [00:11:40] I'll deploy it, I'll be able to confirm that the bug is fixed because that log will stop ticking over [00:11:49] perfect [00:11:54] looks good from my end anyway [00:12:13] 03(mod) Implement a form-based editor SpecialPage for MediaWiki:Titleblacklist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27988 +comment (10snaevar) [00:12:17] 03(mod) Collection messages being overly escaped in 1.21wmf1 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40901 +comment (10Siebrand) [00:12:34] ah, I see MaxSem merged it already [00:12:54] 03(mod) ContentHandler renders Scribunto nonoperational - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40908 +comment (10Victor Vasiliev) [00:14:48] New patchset: Tim Starling; "Update MobileFrontend" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf12) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27384 [00:16:14] Change abandoned: Tim Starling; "A lot of unintended changes here." [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf12) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27384 [00:16:38] 03(mod) MF beta ribbon doesn't scroll with page on Android Firefox 16 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40902 +comment (10Brion Vibber) [00:19:59] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "Fixed review stats function for logged-in users (not used yet)." [mediawiki/extensions/FlaggedRevs] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27385 [00:26:47] 03(mod) AfDing something should add the AfD page to your watchlist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40418 (10bsitu) [00:27:58] 03(mod) UploadBase: Call to a member function getName() on a non-object - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39195 (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [00:27:58] 03(mod) Next wmf deployment (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38865 (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [00:32:31] New patchset: Krinkle; "Support custom hashes in ve.getHash()" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26922 [00:32:47] New review: Krinkle; "Removed redundant else statement" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26922 [01:04:51] 03(mod) UploadBase: Fatal error: Call to a member function getName() on a non-object - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39195 summary (10Krinkle) [01:08:50] 03(mod) MobileFrontend corrupts parser cache for regular page views - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38273 +comment (10Tim Starling) [01:29:39] New patchset: Mdale; "bug 39869; Initial patch set for mp4 support" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25473 [02:11:30] New review: Aude; "various minor comments" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25473 [02:25:26] New patchset: Krinkle; "Fix up various issues leading to bug 40780." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27386 [02:26:20] 03(ASSIGNED) searchsuggest-containing line ("containing...") doesn't include the entered text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40780 +comment (10Krinkle) [02:27:17] New review: Krinkle; "After approval, backport to REL1_20 and 1.21wmf*, this fixes a recent regression." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27386 [02:29:41] Krinkle, <3 [02:30:04] Eloquence: :) that one was quite an adventure [02:33:41] looks like it indeed. but based on a quick checkout/verification seems to reliably fix the issue :) [02:34:24] 03(mod) Hinting issue in Lohit-* Fonts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33054 +upstream; +comment (10Srikanth Logic) [02:59:26] New review: Asher; "Completed the schema migration in production." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17512 [03:41:50] 03(mod) Special:ChangeEmail: When changing e-mail address x to the same x, the dialog with new address and password is shown but no mail is sent and process continues without any message - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36561 (10spage) [03:46:10] 03(mod) Special:ChangeEmail: When changing e-mail address x to the same x, the dialog with new address and password is shown but no mail is sent and process continues without any message - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36561 (10spage) [03:55:47] 03(mod) Preview failing on FeedbackDashboard - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40801 +comment (10Steven Walling) [03:56:29] New review: Santhosh; "Let Pau decide on this." [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27316 [03:58:05] Change merged: Santhosh; [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27314 [04:03:32] 03(NEW) browser's invalid email tooltip appears in addition to MediaWiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40909 minor; MediaWiki: Special pages; (spage) [04:31:41] New patchset: Tim Starling; "Fix Ibcb23c81, and tweak array merge order" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24131 [04:31:50] Change merged: Tim Starling; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24131 [04:32:01] New patchset: Tim Starling; "Check headers for default variant when initializing default user options." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7376 [04:32:16] Change merged: Tim Starling; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7376 [04:34:13] hi blackjack48 [04:36:31] Hi Sumana [04:36:41] ahah, a sumanah. [04:37:03] blackjack48: how goes the watchlist project? [04:37:31] blackjack48: I'm especially interested in your progress in getting the current design somewhere where people can comment on the UI and help improve it [04:37:45] sumanah: I still need to figure out how labs work :( [04:38:00] blackjack48: ok. Do you have specific questions? Maybe I can help [04:38:38] sumanah: Not really. I've been pretty busy and I just need to find a block of time to sit down and figure it out. [04:38:44] OK. [04:38:54] The documentation has slightly improved in the last 2 weeks, in case that helps. [04:39:48] sumanah: Are you busy? [04:39:59] Hazard-SJ: I could speak for 10 min. [04:40:11] (Thanks for checking! I appreciate it) [04:41:17] sumanah: What I actually wanted was a bit of Git training :) [04:41:41] Hazard-SJ: let's see what I can give you! [04:42:30] sumanah: As a starter, I have the software I think I'll require :D [04:44:25] namely git? [04:44:53] I have that [04:45:22] OK. So you've started following https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Tutorial ? [04:46:43] Hazard-SJ: what step of that tutorial are you on? [04:47:39] I haven't looked at that tutorial, really, but I've already uploaded my key to Gerrit. [04:48:36] Hazard-SJ: ok, go ahead and try that tutorial and let me know when you come to a problem [04:49:09] Sumanah: Yunzhi Gao. Is on irc? [04:49:22] sumanah: Sure, thanks. [04:49:59] Amgine: is Yunzhi Gao a greeting, a proper name, or something else? Hasty searches don't quite help me out [04:50:07] I am on IRC for the next 5-ish min [04:50:15] A proper name. [04:50:30] MIT student, just sent out a survey re: WLM. [04:50:55] Ah, ok. I did not see this survey. WLM list? [04:51:22] * sumanah looks at http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikilovesmonuments/2012-October/date.html and does not find it [04:51:46] No clue. I was somehow targeted for the survey for no reason I could understand. [04:52:13] Oh, you received it personally? [04:52:19] Strange. [04:52:22] Yah, and rather a few others. [04:52:25] I haven't gotten it. [04:52:38] [04:55:21] OK. Yeah, I've never heard of this before. I presume rcom will help you out [04:56:06] And I've never heard of Yunzhi Gao before so I don't know whether s/he is on IRC. (I think that was your question?) [04:58:15] Yah, that was it. No one I know seems to know of xyr. [04:59:05] Thanks sumanah, and tah! [04:59:32] I'd wager that it's simply a non-Wikimedian student. [04:59:34] Ta! [05:01:59] New review: Tim Starling; "If it's easy, then you should write a patch for it. It's definitely easy to patch Collation::factory..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/3367 [05:07:11] New review: Liangent; "Hmm but I don't think it's good to combine that patch with this. Also that patch would has some slig..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/3367 [05:09:01] New review: Tim Starling; "Right, it should be an independent change." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/3367 [05:09:41] Hi TimStarling [05:10:02] or you could make the existing patchset dependent on the new one [05:10:12] you would write the new one, based on master [05:10:24] then rebase the existing patchset on top of it and submit it as an amendment [05:10:43] I just don't think it should all be combined into the one patchset [05:11:11] and hi [05:11:33] I did some things in that way, but it's annoying a changeset with dependency needs updating everytime its base is updated [05:12:43] you can have a branch if you want [05:12:49] a proper remote branch [05:13:30] TimStarling: can I start it myself? or do I need some assistance from Git admins? [05:13:48] I think you need a git admin, but luckily I am one and I can create it right now for you [05:14:28] name = chinese-collation? [05:15:24] TimStarling: looks fine, and move change 3367 into it? [05:15:54] ok, created [05:16:04] yes you can move that change into it [05:16:12] then how can I do it [05:16:23] first check out the new remote branch [05:17:14] git clone -b chinese-collation ssh://gerrit.... [05:17:45] same ssh:// URL as you normally use [05:18:08] or you can just check it out in an existing directory... [05:18:42] I'm doing git fetch --all and switching to the new branch [05:19:00] ok [05:19:13] once that is done, you can fetch the changeset you want to move [05:19:50] git fetch https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/mediawiki/core refs/changes/67/3367/4 [05:20:05] that's just copied out of the "download" box in gerrit [05:20:31] then use cherry-pick to get it into the new branch [05:20:40] git cherry-pick 4cfcac57eb632f1f15ae86bb022d88ef245292aa [05:21:09] apparently cherry-pick needs the object to be fetched first, it can't get a remote object [05:21:39] saw conflicts... [05:22:42] you'll have to resolve them [05:23:39] ok let me do it [05:23:41] the previous base was from June, apparently, so it's not surprising you would have conflicts [05:23:58] btw where's the source of icu collator? [05:24:13] which part? [05:24:19] sorting rules [05:24:44] I find it almost the same but not exactly the same as sorting by kMandarin and kTotalStrokes from ucd.**.xml [05:25:07] some specific characters have problems [05:26:25] maybe because of version difference? but that would need difference first-letter info for different database version... [05:27:49] this looks like it: http://source.icu-project.org/repos/icu/icu/trunk/source/data/coll/zh.txt [05:28:05] it's in subversion, try svn co http://source.icu-project.org/repos/icu/icu/trunk [05:29:35] New patchset: Santhosh; "Remove the expensive event listeners" [mediawiki/extensions/Narayam] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27388 [05:29:43] hmm so hard coded data for characters one by one [05:30:08] TimStarling: gtg thx [05:30:58] bye [05:32:11] New patchset: Tim Starling; "Show redirects correctly on diff pages." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25631 [05:39:48] New review: Tim Starling; "$this->mNewtext has ceased to exist after ContentHandler was merged so this doesn't work anymore." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25631 [05:40:41] 03(NEW) The search box's 'title' argument is "Search Wikipedia" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40910 minor; Wikimedia: Blog; (jdethurens) [05:53:03] New review: Krinkle; "Looks good." [mediawiki/extensions/Narayam] (master); V: 0 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27388 [05:55:04] New patchset: Tim Starling; "Display converted namespace names in Html::namespaceSelector()." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9235 [05:56:33] 03(mod) browser's invalid email tooltip appears in addition to MediaWiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40909 +comment (10Daniel Friesen) [05:58:35] New review: Tim Starling; "PS4: rebased with manual conflict resolution in Html.php." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9235 [05:58:36] Change merged: Tim Starling; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9235 [06:04:26] New patchset: Tim Starling; "Stop expanding search term in of the search results page" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4841 [06:05:09] <gerrit-wm> New review: Tim Starling; "Good enough for me." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4841 [06:05:10] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: Tim Starling; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4841 [06:06:27] <gerrit-wm> New review: Tim Starling; "Maybe move this into the new branch also?" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/3370 [06:06:34] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Liangent; "Show redirects correctly on diff pages." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25631 [06:07:06] <gerrit-wm> New review: Santhosh; "@Krinkle," [mediawiki/extensions/Narayam] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27388 [06:09:04] <TimStarling> it does seem kind of stupid to delay a fix for a significant bug for 6 months because of some nitpicking [06:09:52] <TimStarling> liangent doesn't seem to respond to the nitpickers so much, so he has a ton of these changes backed up [06:12:36] <TimStarling> I mean, he responds the same day if they have the slightest speck of a good point and the change is easy enough [06:14:18] <TimStarling> I probably do the same thing, to avoid conflicts, but I can always merge my own changes [06:22:10] <gerrit-wm> New review: Tim Starling; "I'm not sure, but maybe you want $this->mNewContent->getRedirectTarget() instead of Title::newFromRe..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25631 [06:24:42] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) Enhance the account creation limit on Malayalam Wikipedia for an event (October 13, 2012) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40911 normal; Wikimedia: Site configuration; (shijualex) [06:25:59] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Liangent; "Show redirects correctly on diff pages." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25631 [06:26:55] * TimStarling waits for jenkins' verdict with baited breath [06:36:23] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Enhance the account creation limit on Malayalam Wikipedia for an event (October 13, 2012) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40911 (10Shiju Alex) [06:36:43] <TimStarling> it Failed with a capital F [06:38:21] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) Bad new behavior of redirects to special pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40912 normal; MediaWiki: ContentHandler; (liangent) [06:38:56] <gerrit-wm> New review: Liangent; "Found bug 40912 when looking at that new function." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25631 [06:40:48] <wikibugs> 03(mod) GeoCoordinateValue is too simple - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40881 +comment (10Nikola Smolenski) [06:41:07] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Bad new behavior of redirects to special pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40912 +comment (10Liangent) [06:42:53] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Undeleting old versions of files proceeds successfully but gives error and fails to log - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39299 (10king.of.hearts.wiki) [06:46:44] <gerrit-wm> New review: Tim Starling; "Where is the page language feature? Is it an extension?" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/10243 [06:49:45] <gerrit-wm> New review: Liangent; "@Tim: See Title::getPageLanguage()." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/10243 [06:53:14] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Performance issue with Internet Explorer and Narayam - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40630 +comment (10Siebrand) [06:57:38] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) Request for enabling new typing scheme for Odia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40913 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Narayam; (psubhashish) [07:06:23] <freakolowsky> lo ... finally back at my office ... [07:08:53] <saper> freakolowsky: hi, can you check if master works on Oracle? I guess contenthandler broke non-MySQL [07:09:37] <freakolowsky> hmmm ... sure ... give a few ticks [07:13:52] <saper> not sure if the master worked before [07:14:05] <saper> I just posted to wikitech-l [07:16:59] <freakolowsky> been away from this code for so long ... this summer has ben extremely anti-MW-productive :S [07:17:29] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) Cannot add a note - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40914 normal; Wikimedia: Media storage; (yannfo) [07:19:40] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Cannot add a note - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40914 +comment (10Yann Forget) [07:23:32] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Request for enabling new typing scheme for Odia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40913 normal->15enhancement (10Srikanth Logic) [07:27:24] <Dantman> heh... That makes me wonder if I should put "We could hire a permanent Oracle, MSSQL, etc... guy" to the MediaWiki Foundation page. [07:31:59] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Liangent; "DO NOT MERGE" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27389 [07:42:40] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) Current master fails jenkins test - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40915 normal; MediaWiki: Unit tests; (liangent) [07:42:45] <gerrit-wm> New review: Hashar; "It is great to remove dependencies upon global variables. I am just wondering why WikiPageTest.php ..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26895 [07:43:09] <freakolowsky> saper: iz no workin [07:43:34] <gerrit-wm> New review: Hashar; "This change need to be rebased." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26891 [07:44:10] <gerrit-wm> New review: Liangent; "bug 40915." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27389 [07:46:22] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Cannot add note to image: Exception TypeError: Cannot call method 'replace' of undefined - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40914 summary (10Andre Klapper) [07:46:31] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22220 [07:46:54] <gerrit-wm> New review: Siebrand; "btw, all this code code benefit from some tests (if not present already)." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22220 [07:50:55] <freakolowsky> saper: page_content_model is a new field in the table, right?? [07:53:03] <liangent> freakolowsky: yes [07:53:21] <liangent> maybe they didn't add a patch for dbms other than mysql [07:54:55] <freakolowsky> were there any other schema changes lately? [07:55:59] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Henning Snater; "css re-arrangements for no-JS edit links" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27390 [07:57:50] <yomeister> Dear all, can somebody tell me how mediawiki verifies svg's and so protects mediawiki from xss attacs? [07:57:51] <liangent> freakolowsky: yes. merging of the ContentHandler branch [08:03:16] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Liangent; "Parser test to test language conversion around HTML tags." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27391 [08:03:35] <wikibugs> 03(mod) browser's invalid email tooltip appears in addition to MediaWiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40909 +comment (10Richard Guk) [08:04:44] <gerrit-wm> New review: Liangent; "Iee3ec291" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27391 [08:04:58] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Liangent; "Parser test to test language conversion around HTML tags." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27391 [08:04:58] <gerrit-wm> New review: Liangent; "I227db72f" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22220 [08:05:01] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Unable to change any user preferences if existing wpwatchlistdays value is a non-integer - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40585 +comment (10Richard Guk) [08:05:23] <freakolowsky> liangent: this merge happedened prior to 1.20 release? [08:05:57] <gerrit-wm> New review: Liangent; "Useful for but not limited to Iee3ec291." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27391 [08:06:21] <liangent> freakolowsky: that's for 1.21 [08:06:34] <liangent> freakolowsky: 1.20 was branched before that [08:07:08] <freakolowsky> k ... damn, how i miss svn ... it was much easier to incrementaly diff changes of a file ... or maybe i just don't know how [08:08:09] <bonsaikitten> freakolowsky: that should still be easy [08:08:28] <freakolowsky> do tell ... [08:09:53] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Occasional temporary problem: no search results for any search terms - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35691 +comment (10Foroa) [08:10:58] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Current master fails jenkins test - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40915 +comment (10Liangent) [08:11:56] <gerrit-wm> New review: Hashar; "A few minor updates are needed now that we have branched 1.21." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17512 [08:12:00] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Unable to change any user preferences if existing wpwatchlistdays value is a non-integer - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40585 +comment (10Daniel Friesen) [08:13:10] <saper> liangent: they didn't; I did complain in the code review since this requires re-thinking of data types used, maybe. [08:14:46] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Request of additional rights - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37517 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [08:14:56] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Aude; "per bug 40355, inject recent changes nicely [DO NOT MERGE]" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27392 [08:29:36] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Enable Narayam on Urdu Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32515 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [08:31:11] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Hinting issue in Lohit-* Fonts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33054 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [08:32:30] <Solacium> I have a logo for MW which has a bigger resolution than the logo can hold. Do I have to scale the picture down for it to match the size of the logo or can I do some kinda Autoadjust? [08:33:01] <Platonides> you will get better results if you give a manually scaled version [08:40:34] <wikibugs> 03(mod) GeoCoordinateValue is too simple - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40881 (10jeblad) [08:41:52] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) preload multiple form fields fails with query string - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40916 normal; MediaWiki extensions: SemanticForms; (andreas.plank) [08:43:03] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Bad new behavior of redirects to special pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40912 +comment (10Daniel Kinzler) [08:43:21] <freakolowsky> saper: content model/format ... in patch scripts it's varbinary in tables.sql it's unsigned int ... which one is it now? [08:43:35] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Matthias Mullie; "Bug 40775 - Metrics Study 6: Article Feedback Edit Conversions" [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26782 [08:44:34] <wikibugs> 03(mod) GeoCoordinateValue is too simple - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40881 (10jeblad) [08:45:15] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Metrics Study 6: Article Feedback Edit Conversions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40775 +comment (10Matthias Mullie) [08:48:49] <bootlfdhfrsa> http://mad.ly/04f523?pact=12145030818&fe=1 [08:50:12] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Submitting a bug with only a summary and no description doesn't trigger the wikibugs-l email - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31790 normal->minor (10Andre Klapper) [08:52:39] <freakolowsky> anyone? ... content model/format fields ... which is the correct one ... varbinary or unsigned int? [08:54:26] <Platonides> freakolowsky, it was changed from varbinary to unsigned int [08:54:30] <Platonides> so I assume that the later [08:54:36] <Platonides> see cbc2014b2d0532202fb7858dc640b957715cd403 [08:55:02] <freakolowsky> okie ... whoever was making the change ... forgot to change the archive/patch files for the updater [08:55:50] <Platonides> the patch files were changed :S [08:55:59] <Platonides> but clearly something was missing [08:56:25] <gerrit-wm> Change abandoned: Liangent; "In branch now." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/3367 [08:56:31] <gerrit-wm> Change abandoned: Liangent; "In branch now." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/3370 [08:56:59] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Bad new behavior of redirects to special pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40912 +comment (10Daniel Kinzler) [08:58:43] <gerrit-wm> New review: Tobias Gritschacher; "no edit link in non-JS version when description is empty" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27390 [08:59:52] <saper> freakolowsky: I have no idea :( [09:02:36] <wikibugs> 03(mod) preload multiple form fields fails with query string - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40916 +comment (10Andreas Plank) [09:05:40] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) Use MWSearch on test site - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40917 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; (daniel.kinzler) [09:13:58] <freakolowsky> Platonides: page_content_model is as you said unsigned int now ... in the installer i get 'wikitext' inserted into it?!? [09:14:46] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Liangent; "Show redirects correctly on diff pages." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25631 [09:16:19] <freakolowsky> seems to me (looking at classes) varbinary is the correct field type [09:16:48] <freakolowsky> not sure tho ... saper, Platonides, anyone ... can someone who's working on this confirm [09:17:42] <freakolowsky> CONTENT_* defines are all texts ... [09:18:31] <Tim-away> it was previously an int, it's varbinary now [09:18:32] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27390 [09:18:42] <Tim-away> nullable [09:20:42] <freakolowsky> k ... 10x ... i'll change the Mysqls tables.sql and push it into review along with Oracle changes [09:22:29] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Santhosh; "Fix the jqueryMsg tests for plural rule parsing" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27393 [09:23:09] <Platonides> Tim-away, are you sure? [09:23:31] <Platonides> cbc2014b2d0532202fb7858dc640b957715cd403 changes it from varbinary to ints [09:23:47] <Platonides> unless it was changed back later forgetting about the .sql [09:25:04] <Platonides> yep, changed back in 906a1ba51f149d659e270597e4b964cc8c550357 [09:25:40] <Tim-away> yeah, Daniel thought it should be varbinary, asher told him to change it to integer, so he did [09:25:51] <Tim-away> then I saw it, and said "this should be varbinary!" [09:25:56] <Tim-away> and daniel said "I know!" [09:26:00] <Platonides> poor Daniel xD [09:26:30] <Tim-away> so I talked to asher about it and worked out a compromise involving nullable binary fields, where null = default [09:26:43] <Platonides> I would have gone with ENUM, but that could be a pain for extensions adding new types [09:26:54] <Tim-away> yes, you must like pain [09:27:27] <Platonides> it is the right type! [09:28:10] <Platonides> (but it's not appropiate with multiple type additions by extensions from third parties ) [09:28:16] <Tim-away> you're not the one who has to do a dozen master switches every time there is a schema change [09:28:44] <Platonides> I think that adding an item at the end of an enum is O(1) [09:29:00] <Platonides> you only need to change the table definition [09:29:22] <Tim-away> changing table definition requires copying the whole table [09:29:33] <Platonides> it seems that mysql is doing that, but would obviosuly need to check [09:29:54] <Platonides> copying the whole table? :S [09:29:58] <Tim-away> with very few exceptions, and I don't think enums are on the list yet [09:30:23] <Tim-away> yes, copy it, delete the old one [09:30:26] <Platonides> sigh, they should be [09:31:01] <Platonides> I don't need to explain you how silly is the way mysql acts for some operations [09:31:02] <DanielK_WMDE> hi! [09:31:17] <Platonides> hi Duesentrieb [09:31:37] <DanielK_WMDE> freakolowsky: i'm afraid i negleted the postgres updater stuff. if you can figure it out, great, otherwise i'll try to look into it later [09:31:48] <DanielK_WMDE> will need some help from someone knowledgeable about pog though. i have never used it [09:31:51] <DanielK_WMDE> hi Platonides [09:32:09] <Platonides> tables.sql also need to be changed back :) [09:32:31] <DanielK_WMDE> o_O [09:32:37] <DanielK_WMDE> i forgot to change tables.sql? [09:32:39] <DanielK_WMDE> crap. [09:33:02] <DanielK_WMDE> i'll fix that [09:34:30] <Platonides> it was confusing to see it had been changed from varbinary to int, yet I had varbinary in mysql [09:34:40] <Platonides> then tim explained it had been then changed again [09:34:47] <Platonides> they had you dancing around [09:35:43] <Juandev> hi [09:36:28] <DanielK_WMDE> Platonides: indeed - caused a few leftovers in the code. i thought i had them all by now. but it totally missed tables.sql >_< [09:36:49] <Juandev> how to clear download as PDF? [09:37:35] <Juandev> I have type it once, than I have realised description is in Czech, so I swiched to English in user preferences and came back to page I would like to download as PDF [09:38:03] <Juandev> unfortunately the link Download as PDF links me to the former rendered Czech version:-( [09:39:12] <Juandev> any url? [09:41:19] <wikibugs> 03(mod) switch test systems to mediawiki master branch - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40884 (10silke.meyer) [09:42:03] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "Fix declaration of content_model and content_format fields." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27394 [09:42:19] <DanielK_WMDE> Platonides: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27394 [09:42:55] <DanielK_WMDE> freakolowsky: let me know if you can figure out how to do the update for postgres properly. i'd be happy if i wouldn't have to set up an environment for testi9ng that ;) [09:44:03] <Nikerabbit> hello DanielK_WMDE [09:44:30] <saper> DanielK_WMDE: weren't the discussion with binasher not to use long types like varbinary(32) for short identifiers? [09:44:39] <Juandev> strange, user language doesnt influence PDF creator [09:44:42] <saper> I think you put ints for a reason [09:45:05] <aude> hi saper [09:45:09] <DanielK_WMDE> saper: go take it up with tim ;) [09:45:53] <saper> DanielK_WMDE: no time for that, I just didn't follow the discussion. Tim is now truncating sha1 fields because they are too long, you know :) [09:46:02] <Juandev> thats not a good behaviour [09:46:02] <DanielK_WMDE> saper: i used ints because asher made me. enums would be good in theory, but suck in practice (see discussion above). [09:46:06] <aude> :o [09:46:27] <DanielK_WMDE> Juandev: sounds like a bug. please file it. [09:46:39] <Juandev> ok [09:46:53] <DanielK_WMDE> saper: so, using null to represent "default" and a string for everythign else seems like a good enough solution. [09:47:55] <saper> normally, varbinary(a) would be a very ugly blob (bytea) [09:50:17] <Tim-away> normally? it's not done that way at all in mediawiki [09:50:31] <Tim-away> I don't think bytea and varbinary are that similar [09:51:03] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Hashar; "Fix test SpecialSearchTest.testSearchTermIsNotExpanded" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27395 [09:51:13] <saper> varbinary(32) means you want 32 bytes integer? [09:51:17] <aude> postgresql would have to use bytea, saper? there is no varbinary? [09:51:27] <aude> not sure that works [09:51:34] * hashar tests are broken currently in Jenkins . Fix being reviewed and will retrigger pending jobs. [09:51:55] <Tim-away> look at the existing schema [09:51:59] <saper> but bytea is a binary blob for images [09:52:00] <Tim-away> BYTEA is used for almost nothing [09:52:08] <saper> oi_sha1 varbinary(32) NOT NULL default '' [09:52:19] <aude> saper: ok [09:52:26] <saper> "text" I have [09:52:29] <Tim-away> right [09:52:47] <Tim-away> varbinary in mysql is an indexable text field with an undefined 8-bit clean encoding [09:53:06] <saper> so those values are strings? [09:53:13] <Tim-away> yes [09:53:32] <Tim-away> we use varbinary instead of varchar because it has a smaller index size [09:53:48] <gerrit-wm> New review: Hashar; "Added as reviewers for their information:" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27395 [09:53:48] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: Hashar; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27395 [09:54:42] <aude> ok, a fresh install of mediawiki with postgres doesn't work ... [09:54:59] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) Description in the language of the project - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40918 major; MediaWiki extensions: BookManager; (juandevojnikov) [09:55:07] <saper> good we can go for text [09:55:07] <Juandev> DanielK_WMDE: done [09:55:20] <DanielK_WMDE> thanks [09:55:20] <saper> aude: gitmaster? [09:55:21] * aude wait and see if freakolowsky fixes it or otherwise i can poke at it [09:55:24] <Juandev> DanielK_WMDE: np [09:55:28] <aude> saper: git master yes [09:55:34] <saper> aude: yes, it doesn't [09:55:52] <freakolowsky> i changed the tables.sql for mysql ... but i'm having problems pushing to review ... [09:56:33] <DanielK_WMDE> freakolowsky: i already fixed that, it's on gerrit [09:56:33] <Dantman> Tim-away, I thought it was because historically MySQL's unicode support has given us horrible issues with text storage. [09:56:40] * aude more used to doing postgres stuff with osm and not mediawiki [09:56:45] <DanielK_WMDE> freakolowsky: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27394 [09:57:15] <Tim-away> no, we use the default charset on each table to control whether or not mysql's unicode storage is used [09:57:45] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Henning Snater; "placeholders for empty label/description in no-JS version" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27396 [09:58:00] <saper> aude: I read this one http://ledgersmbdev.blogspot.co.uk/2012/09/or-modelling-interlude-postgresql-vs.html with interest [09:58:17] <freakolowsky> ql ... now i just have to find out how to remove this change from my commit ... dear git ... [eric clapton vox]have i told you lately that i hate you [09:58:21] <Tim-away> we use varchar for text which is in some user-visible charset [09:58:26] <aude> saper: thanks [09:58:30] <saper> freakolowsky: git reset --soft HEAD^ ? [09:58:40] <Tim-away> we use varbinary for ASCII strings defined by the developer because it is more efficient to store ASCII that way [09:58:45] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Santhosh; "Fix the jqueryMsg tests for plural rule parsing" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27393 [09:58:51] * DanielK_WMDE has a --soft HEAD^ [09:58:51] <freakolowsky> saper ... this will do what? [09:59:21] <DanielK_WMDE> freakolowsky: roll back your last commit locally, keeping your changes in the working copy [09:59:56] <DanielK_WMDE> freakolowsky: alternatively, you can do git checkout master -- somefile, and then git commit --amend [10:00:05] <MadCommieScienti> Спасиба, Спасиба mediawiki devels [10:00:11] <saper> freakolowsky: this will 'undo' last commit in the current branch, leave working dir with out changes; they also will be in the index for review [10:00:11] <DanielK_WMDE> that will basically scratch your changes to that file from the last commit [10:00:31] <freakolowsky> ql ... [10:00:34] <Dantman> Freaking mac... Sometimes mounting gets screwed up so badly that to re-mount a server's filesystem I have to restart my whole laptop. [10:01:08] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Set Transwiki namespace on Chinese (zh) wikimedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40474 summary (10Andre Klapper) [10:01:09] <DanielK_WMDE> freakolowsky: i find git quite powerful and flexible, it's just that the command line commands and parameters have sucky names and are inconsistent [10:01:39] <DanielK_WMDE> there's legit to fix that, but then you are getting used to an ideosyncratic set of commands, which makes it harder to communicate with others [10:01:42] <Dantman> It's as if something locks up a path at os level so you can't mount something again... [10:01:46] <saper> Dantman: tried mount_ntfs with -o soft ? [10:01:58] <saper> Dantman: s,ntfs,nfs, of course :) [10:02:17] <freakolowsky> well i probably wouldn't be so lost all the time if i used it more often ... but i use it more/less just for MW and that every few months [10:02:33] <Dantman> saper, Not nfs... sftp, I'm blathering on about an OSX/Transmit issue. [10:03:06] * saper wants to have Ph.D. on differences between 'git checkout' and 'git reset' [10:03:18] <saper> Dantman: sounds like fuse, phui :) [10:04:02] <Dantman> mhmm, except this isn't using normal fuse, it's using something specific to osx [10:04:51] <Dantman> saper, Sometimes something screws up and the connection to the server completely goes away and the mount becomes messed up. I then eject the broken mount-point. After that I can't re-connect to the same server since Transmit tries to mount it at the same path. Even though I already ejected it. [10:05:42] <Dantman> Linux / Gnome support for remote server mounting is still x10 better than OS X. [10:07:10] <freakolowsky> is this Git/Workflow manual on MW site still the way to go ... i use it as a cheat sheet and it always drops a few additional changes in the mix and "git review" then complains i am pushing multuiple changes to the review [10:09:41] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) Current master fails jenkins test - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40915 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [10:10:09] <freakolowsky> nvrmind [10:10:09] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) Wikipedia sends desktop site to Boot2Gecko (Firefox OS) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40919 normal; Wikimedia Mobile: devices; (gerv) [10:10:37] <gerrit-wm> Change abandoned: Liangent; "(no reason)" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27389 [10:12:09] <freakolowsky> aaa ... stilll ... git assistance required [10:12:49] <gerrit-wm> New review: Hashar; "Does not seem to work on SQLite:" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27394 [10:14:00] <wikibugs> 03(mod) switch test systems to mediawiki master branch - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40884 (10silke.meyer) [10:14:16] <saper> freakolowsky: what's up? [10:15:29] <freakolowsky> git review is complaining i have multiple changes lined up for review ... not my changes ... i've tried the solution on the Git/Workflow page ... same thing [10:15:30] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Wikipedia sends desktop site to Boot2Gecko (Firefox OS) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40919 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [10:16:35] <wikibugs> 14(DUP) Blank entries in Edit history for blocked user's contributions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40815 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [10:16:35] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Deleted contributions show as empty list items on Special:Contributions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39062 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [10:18:21] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Wikipedia sends desktop site to Boot2Gecko (Firefox OS) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40919 +comment (10Gervase Markham) [10:22:35] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Wikipedia sends desktop site to Boot2Gecko (Firefox OS) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40919 (10Andre Klapper) [10:26:40] <gerrit-wm> New review: Siebrand; "Please feel free to improve here. I have no immediate desire to understand how to get this fixed pro..." [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27375 [10:26:53] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Wikipedia sends desktop site to Boot2Gecko (Firefox OS) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40919 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [10:29:31] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Freakolowsky; "* Oracle schema update: rc_moved, cat_hidden, ss_admin * tables.sql + updater patches for *_content_(model|format) fieldswq" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27397 [10:33:34] <freakolowsky> YES ... 5min to make the change ... and additional 25min to get it into review ... still more productive than oracle tech support :D [10:37:02] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Wikipedia sends desktop site to Boot2Gecko (Firefox OS) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40919 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [10:37:31] <hashar> freakolowsky: :) [10:38:29] <andre__> I see a keyword in Bugzilla "newparser: Feature requests to keep track of for the new parser." As "new" is relative: Does this refer to Parsoid? [10:39:35] <andre__> If so, the product description for Parsoid states "[...] translate MW's syntax into [...] better support for [...] visual editing". Isn't that part covered by VisualEditor nowadays? [10:41:35] <wikibugs> 03(mod) switch test systems to mediawiki master branch - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40884 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [10:44:09] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "Support plain text content." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27399 [10:44:12] <hashar> andre__: I think Parsoid is the parser and Visual Editor is independent [10:44:56] <andre__> I see. So the Parsoid description is misleading [10:45:18] <andre__> still wondering if "newparser" actually refers to Parsoid (plus if having both a specific product and a keyword for it makes sense) [10:46:28] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Create Bugzilla Product for WikiLoves Monuments Mobile app - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37571 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [10:49:32] <gerrit-wm> New review: Daniel Kinzler; "@hashar: hm... how is that related to the given change? BLOB isn't used in tables.sql..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27394 [10:49:59] <liangent> hashar: maybe better to say VE depends on parsoid but not the other way? [10:50:16] <hashar> liangent: maybe, I am not familiar with the VE / Parsoid stuff [10:52:35] <andre__> I wonder who is :) [10:58:01] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Henning Snater; "correct styling of add alias button in no-JS version" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27400 [10:58:28] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Santhosh; "Delete utils.data tests - they were moved to the jQuery component" [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27142 [10:58:41] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: Santhosh; [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27142 [11:01:47] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: Santhosh; [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27210 [11:05:40] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Daniel Werner; "Added tests for StateExtension" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27401 [11:06:58] <wikibugs> 03(mod) This is a test bug, ignore me - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40895 +comment (10Peter Bena) [11:11:09] <petan> !ping [11:11:09] <wm-bot> Pong. [11:11:53] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: Santhosh; [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27279 [11:11:58] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) Recent languages in languages settings - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39535 (10Santhosh Thottingal) [11:12:11] <wikibugs> 03(mod) This is a test bug, ignore me - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40895 +comment (10Peter Bena) [11:28:52] <wikibugs> 03(mod) A PD license wich is thinks as wrong license - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40920 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [11:37:06] <wikibugs> 03(mod) This is a test bug, ignore me - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40895 +comment (10Peter Bena) [11:37:42] <wikibugs> 03(mod) This is a test bug, ignore me - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40895 +comment (10Peter Bena) [11:42:18] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Matthias Mullie; "Fix PHP notice when running phpunit tests" [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27403 [11:48:06] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Hinting issue in Lohit-* Fonts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33054 -upstream ; +comment (10Siebrand) [11:50:50] <Dantman> T_T Ahhhh... it's one "Spiritual" book author after another... [11:52:22] <wikibugs> 03(WONTFIX) Add a search box at the bottom of every page in addition to the one at the top - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38694 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [11:52:36] <Dantman> ...I'm going to go insane if I'm stuck doing this kind of stuff forever [11:53:00] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Santhosh; "Test RL modules files exists" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24564 [11:53:30] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) Add bugzilla to status.wm.o monitor - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39100 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [11:53:39] <gerrit-wm> New review: Santhosh; "Added support for testing whether language javascript file exists or not" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24564 [11:56:21] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Santhosh; "Test RL modules files exists" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24564 [11:56:40] <gerrit-wm> New review: Santhosh; "A minor indentation correction" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24564 [11:59:33] <wikibugs> 03(mod) add a custom field "commit in gerrit" in bugzilla ui. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39399 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [11:59:55] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) Sitelinks do not get removed from wbc_items_per_site on item-deletion - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40922 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataClient; (tobias.gritschacher) [11:59:59] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Sitelinks do not get removed from wbc_items_per_site on item-deletion - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40922 (10tobias.gritschacher) [12:05:47] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "(bug 40922) sitelinks not removed from wbc_items_per_site on itemdeletion" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27405 [12:08:42] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: Daniel Werner; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27396 [12:10:04] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: John Erling Blad; "(Bug 40381) Use prefixed id" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27406 [12:12:38] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: John Erling Blad; "(Bug 40381) Use prefixed id" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27406 [12:16:53] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Sitelinks do not get removed from wbc_items_per_site on item-deletion - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40922 (10tobias.gritschacher) [12:18:40] <wikibugs> 03(mod) History table formatting looks naff in Bugzilla (Table has no styling) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22166 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [12:26:35] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Santhosh; "Load the fallback locales" [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27407 [12:26:35] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Santhosh; "Update jquery.i18n from upstream" [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27408 [12:29:38] <Guest84249> Hi! Does anyone know good sources on how to install captcha? I do everything by instructions, but it doesn't work. [12:29:40] <wikibugs> 03(mod) [Regression] Thumbnail cache should be invalidated on re-upload - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31680 +comment (10TMg) [12:30:00] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Henning Snater; "correct styling of add alias button in no-JS version" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27400 [12:35:37] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27400 [12:36:57] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Change containing structure from item to entity (1) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40559 (10jeblad) [12:37:02] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Uploading with same file blocked with Different 3 of messages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40921 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [12:38:52] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Santhosh; "Add .jshintrc" [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27409 [12:39:43] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Publish Bugzilla customizations on Gerrit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40642 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [12:46:03] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: John Erling Blad; "(Bug 40559) Fix some "items" that should be "entity"" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27410 [12:48:25] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Publish Bugzilla customizations on Gerrit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40642 +comment (10Chad H.) [12:49:18] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Change containing structure from item to entity (1) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40559 (10jeblad) [12:50:47] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) URLs to Wikipedia articles should be used as returned by the API (8) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40399 (10denny vrandecic) [12:50:54] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) Implement datatypes (8) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40223 (10denny vrandecic) [12:51:00] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) List all datatypes (3) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40232 (10denny vrandecic) [12:51:04] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) Enforce uniqueness of language+label for properties (2) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40225 (10denny vrandecic) [12:51:45] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) Properties have a datatype (5) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40226 (10denny vrandecic) [12:53:08] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Upgrade Bugzilla to 4.2 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33158 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [12:53:34] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) Datatype-selector-widget - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40224 (10denny vrandecic) [12:53:40] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) Static PropertyView (8) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40229 (10denny vrandecic) [12:53:55] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) Create ApiModifyEntity and refactor (8) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40301 (10denny vrandecic) [12:54:11] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) Dynamic PropertyView (8) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40230 (10denny vrandecic) [12:54:45] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Aude; "per bug 40355, inject recent changes nicely" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27392 [12:56:06] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Enable flags for needinfo - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36064 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [12:56:07] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Upgrade Bugzilla to 4.2 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33158 (10Andre Klapper) [12:56:38] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: Henning Snater; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27401 [12:57:38] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Upgrade Bugzilla to 4.2 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33158 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [12:58:18] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) Design the entity selector widget (8) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40393 (10denny vrandecic) [12:58:31] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) Hashable should use SHA-1 and not MD5 (2) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39506 (10denny vrandecic) [12:58:35] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) Rename noexternalinterlang to noexternallanglinks (1) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40387 (10denny vrandecic) [12:58:40] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) Tests for noexternallanglinks (5) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40388 (10denny vrandecic) [12:59:02] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) See message wikibase-propertytool-counter: Unknown operation (2) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40205 (10denny vrandecic) [12:59:12] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) apply dir="ltr" to the language codes in "List of pages linked to this item" (1) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40237 (10denny vrandecic) [12:59:26] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) wfTimestamp is not deprecated - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40475 (10denny vrandecic) [12:59:29] <gerrit-wm> New review: Aude; "This works as-is and is improvement over current code." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27392 [12:59:35] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) Add a type marker to the entity output by the API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40476 (10denny vrandecic) [12:59:44] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) Properly escape output - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40523 (10denny vrandecic) [12:59:58] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Can't change E-Mail address in bugzilla.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40625 +comment (10Daniel Werner) [13:00:24] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) Which tokens to use in the UI for editing? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38963 (10denny vrandecic) [13:00:32] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) Use of edit token in ApiModifyItem - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39366 (10denny vrandecic) [13:00:50] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) Check existing code to see where it works only for items but should work for entities (13) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40390 (10denny vrandecic) [13:00:56] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) Namespace translations can break core namspeaces - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40397 (10denny vrandecic) [13:01:01] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: Henning Snater; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27402 [13:02:35] <freakolowsky> hashar: have you ever hit a Class not found error when running PHPUnit ... Yaml\Inline [13:02:37] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Wikipedia sends desktop site to Boot2Gecko (Firefox OS) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40919 +comment (10Gervase Markham) [13:03:13] <petan> btw guys I started as a trial bugzilla feed in #mediawiki-feed if you think it needs some improvements let me know [13:08:26] <hashar> freakolowsky: I don't understand your issue sorry. Does not sound familiar. [13:09:14] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Implement a way to index Bugzilla bugs by Wikimedia wiki family - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38994 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [13:10:12] <wikibugs> 03(mod) ResourceLoader: Missing files in a module should trigger an error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40892 +comment (10Daniel Werner) [13:10:47] <freakolowsky> hashar: http://pastebin.com/0MbttxQ4 ... no clue why this happens? (Yaml is installed trough pear just as phpunit) [13:15:11] <hashar> oh [13:15:36] <hashar> freakolowsky: maybe the Symfony component is not up to date ? [13:15:45] <hashar> freakolowsky: or some autoloading system is not working properly [13:16:16] <hashar> do you at least have /opt/php/lib/php/Symfony/Component/Yaml/Inline.php ? [13:16:42] <freakolowsky> yep ... just reinstalled phpunit+yaml [13:16:47] <hashar> as for Symfony autoloader I have no knowledge about it. Check if it is correctly registered, our phpunit.php might be overloading it [13:18:54] <sumanah> freakolowsky: just added petan as a reviewer for that Oracle-related patchset because petan also uses Oracle a lot [13:20:03] <DanielK_WMDE> freakolowsky: how far did you get with the PG stuff for page_content, etc? shall i look into it later? [13:21:01] <wikibugs> 03(ASSIGNED) Run pollForChanges as user - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40739 (10denny vrandecic) [13:22:33] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Can't change E-Mail address in bugzilla.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40625 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [13:22:36] <freakolowsky> DanielK_WMDE: i didn't change anything for PG ... as far as i've noticed it's missing completely ... i just noticed Mysql being off as i was checking what to do in oracle [13:22:44] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Nikerabbit; "Added framework for key generation algorithms in GettextFFS" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27411 [13:22:52] <DanielK_WMDE> freakolowsky: ah ok, i see [13:22:58] <DanielK_WMDE> i'll keep it on my todo list then [13:23:18] <freakolowsky> i can do it for you ... i have some time now [13:23:58] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Can't change E-Mail address in bugzilla.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40625 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [13:27:45] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Nikerabbit; "Take inline editor out of beta status" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27412 [13:30:11] <gerrit-wm> New review: Reedy; "QUnit tests now pass :)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27393 [13:30:59] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Maintenance::purgeRedundantText() fails on old archived revisions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40860 (10Andre Klapper) [13:33:15] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Saved searches in Bugzilla sidebar are truncated and contain errors - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37257 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [13:34:00] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "Fixing SpamBlacklist for ContentHandler" [mediawiki/extensions/SpamBlacklist] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27313 [13:34:49] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Product column in buglist.cgi limited to 8 chars; cannot distinguish "MediaWiki" / "MediaWiki extension" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40244 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [13:38:02] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Custom rendering of recent changes in the client with incoming data (5) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40567 summary (10denny vrandecic) [13:39:29] <Reedy> Fatal error: Call to a member function getName() on a non-object in /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.21wmf1/includes/upload/UploadBase.php on line 558 [13:39:32] <Reedy> That's starting to annoy me [13:39:40] <Nikerabbit> why? [13:40:14] <Reedy> There's a load of them on the cluster [13:40:22] <Reedy> and I'm not sure what to actually to do to fix it [13:40:35] <Reedy> as it's in a section getting a list of warnings for various stuff [13:41:38] <Reedy> if ( !$localFile ) { return array( 'somethingiswrong' => 'OH NOES' ); } [13:43:06] <sumanah> hi andre__ - how is your day going? [13:43:35] <andre__> sumanah: I like how you care and wonder after how many weeks you won't ask anymore ;) [13:44:04] <sumanah> ha! andre__ I think that soon enough, as soon as you see me come online, you will ambush me with questions [13:44:06] <Nikerabbit> ;) [13:44:15] <andre__> sumanah, oh yes, that's the plan :) [13:44:18] <sumanah> and then I will know to stop asking and to hide instead ;-) [13:44:22] <Nikerabbit> hi sumanah, how are you doing? [13:44:31] <sumanah> I'm all right, Nikerabbit, how are you? [13:44:38] <andre__> sumanah: done quite a few things so far, e.g. diving into existing keywords and going through open BZ tickets in BZ. And yes, I have questions :) [13:44:53] <Nikerabbit> sumanah: superb [13:45:00] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Freakolowsky; "* PG schema update for *_content_(model|format) fields" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27413 [13:45:01] <sumanah> rock! [13:45:18] <Nikerabbit> hi Jarry1250 [13:45:35] <andre__> sumanah: e.g. I wonder if the "newparser" keyword actually refers to Parsoid. See https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/describekeywords.cgi . And if it does, how it is used as there is a Parsoid product. [13:45:37] <Jarry1250> Hey Nikerabbit [13:45:40] <Jarry1250> Finally found some time to do some proper programming for a change :) [13:45:51] <freakolowsky> DanielK_WMDE: ^^ ... add somone who works with PG as a reviewer [13:46:18] <sumanah> andre__: yes, "newparser" is Parsoid, but I don't know how it's used there. James_F|Away (James Forrester) would know. He is the product manager for that team [13:46:29] <freakolowsky> sumanah: u going to GSoC mentor summit? [13:46:36] <sumanah> freakolowsky: I am! you? [13:46:37] <Nikerabbit> Jarry1250: nice, I was just going to bug you about translatesvg :) [13:46:56] <andre__> sumanah: ah lovely. Mostly it's about finding contacts for me that know, so I ask on IRC. but this one wasn't successful this morning :) [13:47:13] <Jarry1250> Nikerabbit: Ah, yes, well basically I'll get back to my outstanding -1s on that and see if I can merge out any of the outstanding changes [13:47:46] <freakolowsky> not me ... it's just between my first marathon this weekend and a half marathon on the 28th ... so i'd be of no use there anyway ... all i wanted to ask (maybe i did that already ) ... my laptop need some fresh stickers ... can you get me some :D [13:48:12] <Jarry1250> Could someone (with shell access?) tell me what version we now have of librsvg on srv190 vs our other boxes? (Per pyoungmeister's update of srv190) [13:48:17] <sumanah> andre__: :) we should set up a time this week for us to have a phone or video chat, and one thing I'll do is go over Who Does What (teams/products) [13:48:26] <sumanah> freakolowsky: I shall attempt to do so! [13:48:50] <freakolowsky> that'd be great, thanks [13:49:19] <Jarry1250> *our other imagescaler boxes, I mean [13:49:26] <Jarry1250> Can I assume their distro standard? [13:49:33] <Jarry1250> *they're [13:49:44] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Preserve link hash in revision links inside BugZilla comments - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28765 summary; +comment (10Andre Klapper) [13:49:48] <andre__> sumanah, yeah, probably a good idea. [13:50:29] <sumanah> andre__: have you set up your "working times" in GCal? [13:50:41] <aude> freakolowsky: i am still getting an error "Could not insert main page" when installing mediawiki w/ postgres [13:50:41] <sumanah> if not, you can just tell me approx what times of day are ok for you. [13:51:03] <aude> column "page_content_model" does not exist [13:51:06] <sumanah> aude: are you ok with me suggesting PG-related changesets for you to review? [13:52:05] <Nikerabbit> Jarry1250: is it important? [13:52:09] <aude> sumanah: sure [13:52:11] <sumanah> also andre__ you might want to know that I mentioned you in the comments to http://jeff.ecchi.ca/blog/2012/10/08/reducing-our-core-apps-software-inventory/ [13:52:19] * aude can find them myself though [13:52:45] <Jarry1250> Nikerabbit: A little, both for TranslateSvg's Labs instance/testing and for svgcheck [13:52:55] <Jarry1250> Which is one of my more popular Toolserver tools [13:53:02] <Jarry1250> That relies on having the same version [13:53:08] <Jarry1250> But it's not an emergency [13:55:20] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Jarry1250; "(bug #32987) The language used to render SVGs should be definable" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25838 [13:55:22] <freakolowsky> aude: can you check tables.sql ... the field should be in there [13:55:31] <andre__> sumanah: But that requires to have a structured day. ;) Basically I should always be around in the European afternoon, but let me dive into Google Calendar and add something :) [13:56:01] <sumanah> andre__: ok. Anything from about 9am-6pm NYC time is fairly easy for me, but I can also go outside that [13:56:15] <Jarry1250> Reedy: ^^^ that patchset should resolve your minor points [13:56:24] <Nikerabbit> sumanah: interesting post [13:56:28] <Reedy> I'd have a look if my mouse was deciding to work ;) [13:56:45] <andre__> sumanah, should be fine, and I should be around on some evenings too. [13:56:50] <sumanah> freakolowsky: you might also reach out to Joe from https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34280 to ask him to set up a developer access account & comment [13:56:52] <Reedy> rage. [13:57:22] <sumanah> freakolowsky: as a tester for Oracle-y stuff [13:57:27] <Jarry1250> Reedy: No problem, I guess following from the bug comments I should really get brion to have a look at it. So your review won't be blocking it for a while ;) [13:57:47] <sumanah> andre__: ok, go ahead and set up a 30-min recurring weekly meeting that works for you? [13:58:13] <sumanah> And lo, the one-on-one weekly meeting came to pass, as it was told in the elder times [13:58:53] <sumanah> Nikerabbit: I'm more ok with nekohayo's approach than with Joel's which is not surprising as there's a reason I don't work for Joel anymore (well, several reasons) [13:59:11] <Jarry1250> Reedy: And I need to manually rebase as well, just for teh lulz [14:00:47] <sumanah> regardless, Nikerabbit, I'm very glad to have andre__ around to lead a more energetic and sustained effort on bug triage and on closing nonrepro bugs -- once he does an assessment of our current # of open bugs and how many we'll probably close as nonrepro, I will be more certain, but I would not be surprised if 1/3 of bugzilla.wikimedia.org could go to INVALID/WORKSFORME [14:01:01] <andre__> sumanah: I guess you have more meetings, so anything in your morning (except for Wed 11:00 your time) works for me, really [14:01:12] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Santhosh; "Fix the jqueryMsg tests for plural rule parsing" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27393 [14:01:47] <gerrit-wm> New review: Santhosh; "Fixed typo in commit message" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27393 [14:01:59] <andre__> question is buy-in, how radically you want to close such tickets, and how to mark and find such tickets (needinfo flag/state). [14:02:10] <andre__> but yeah, as time comes this should improve. [14:03:13] <Jarry1250> sumanah: I think you're underestimating the number of quirky feature requests on Bugzilla [14:03:36] <Jarry1250> That you want to close but can't :) [14:03:38] <sumanah> Might be. [14:03:38] <Nikerabbit> and wontfix [14:04:01] <andre__> problem with closing enhancement requests as a triager is that you need to know the devs/maintainers of a project very well. [14:04:08] <Jarry1250> Do you wontfix enhancements though? I think we had a discussion about that fairloy recently. [14:04:17] <andre__> in GNOME Evolution I use a whiteboard entry "evolution[wontfix?]" to propose this to maintainers [14:04:33] <andre__> if I don't feel bold enough to decide on my own [14:04:39] <aude> freakolowsky: checking [14:06:23] <sumanah> andre__: can you give me an example of a bug in GNOME's or Maemo's bugtracker that uses the whiteboard? I feel as though I've seen it before but forgotten, and I'm so used to our BZ right now where we don't tend to use it [14:06:33] <sumanah> (but I am intrigued and might suggest that we change) [14:06:45] <aude> freakolowsky: ok, it seems to work [14:06:53] <aude> wrong branch :o [14:07:34] <andre__> sumanah, https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?status_whiteboard_type=notregexp&status_whiteboard=^%24&resolution=--- [14:08:03] <andre__> sumanah, I use it as long as there is no NEEDINFO implementation (see https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36064 ) [14:08:34] <wikibugs> 03(WONTFIX) Add configuration variable for limiting the languages displayed on Special:Translate - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/18721 +comment (10Niklas Laxström) [14:08:36] <sumanah> thanks andre__ [14:08:57] <andre__> sumanah, in gnome e.g. https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=217218 [14:10:01] <sumanah> andre__: so it's sort of a way to have keywords in a folksonomy? [14:10:35] <andre__> hmm, I should probably comment on nekohayo's blogpost. I feel sorry as he pinged me a few days ago on the Bugzilla cleanup topic but I was just about to go to sleep :( [14:11:03] <andre__> sumanah, it's freeform. you can use it for anything. It makes sense e.g. for "keywords" that would be only useful for one product, or [14:11:32] <andre__> simply to tag stuff in a way that helps you (but then I'd recommend some kind of namespace to avoid conflicts, e.g. "myusername[tag]") [14:11:49] <sumanah> right [14:12:47] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Nikerabbit; "Removing broken, unused script gathering dust" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27414 [14:13:15] <wikibugs> 03(WONTFIX) Undefined variable $rev in scripts/pagetranslation-check-database.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31357 +comment (10Niklas Laxström) [14:14:01] <andre__> sumanah: fyi, http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/User:AKlapper/WildIdeas#Growth_charts (last four links at the bottom) might be helpful when it comes to analyzing if a project fails in Bugzilla (too many open tickets and growth to steep) [14:14:24] <aude> freakolowsky: now i'll test it with an update [14:14:34] <andre__> WMF is still okayish, there are way worse bugtrackers out there (e.g. Mozilla) that cannot handle the incoming load at all. [14:14:42] <sumanah> andre__: hmm, well, lots of us are doing not-so-well? :/ [14:14:48] <andre__> haha [14:15:43] <saper> sumanah: got more PostgreSQL updater bugs? will be testing tonight CEST a lot :) [14:15:45] <andre__> sumanah, wouldn't say so. rather it's about saying No (WONTFIX) to some enhancement requests, and needs more retesting/closing of older tickets. but for the latter you need info when the issue happened, and I don't really see the "Version" field used much in reports [14:16:06] <andre__> (plus some "needinfo" flag if the reporter never provided required info) [14:16:09] <aude> saper: see https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/27413/ [14:16:16] <aude> if you can test it also, that would be great [14:16:17] <Nikerabbit> andre__: would be nice to have those graphs per extension [14:16:26] <aude> it works on a fresh install [14:16:35] <saper> aude: can you add me to the reviewers? [14:16:43] <andre__> Nikerabbit, one sec [14:17:15] <sumanah> saper: I just search gerrit for "message:pg" and "message:postgres" to try to find stuff [14:17:30] <Denny_WMDE1> !worstcase [14:17:30] <wm-bot> Generally, the worst that can happen is that someone compromises your site, steals your data, deletes it and replaces it with kiddy porn. Then they start a spam service on your server advertising the kiddy porn to twenty million email addresses, daily. Then your home gets raided, you get fired and your wife leaves you. Then you get killed in your sleep by ninjas. [14:17:38] <aude> saper: done [14:17:44] <saper> aude: thx [14:18:02] * aude wonders what Denny_WMDE1 is up to :D [14:18:18] <Nikerabbit> Krinkle: would you happen to have idea if https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36692 has easy fix? [14:18:20] <freakolowsky> Denny_WMDE1: well at least ... being killed in sleep by ninjas is not so bad way to go ... [14:18:25] * saper confuses Denny_WMDE, DanielK_WMDE do they have any more of them? :) [14:19:25] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) Add DISPLAYNAME in translated page export - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36826 +comment (10Niklas Laxström) [14:19:33] <aude> saper: we have Danwe_WMDE [14:19:35] <aude> :) [14:19:35] <andre__> Nikerabbit: meh. It's not possible per extension. :( [14:19:41] <andre__> (BZ component) [14:19:47] <aude> sometimes known as DanielW_WMDE ) [14:20:02] <saper> ah [14:20:09] <andre__> Nikerabbit: one more reason to move up one level by using classifications and turn current extensions from components into products [14:20:12] <saper> good that aude is aude :) [14:20:19] <aude> yes [14:20:31] * aude gave up on having 2 irc nicks [14:21:32] <Nikerabbit> andre__: someone complained the current hierarchy is inconsistent anyway [14:21:48] <wikibugs> 03(WONTFIX) Translate extension should use correct API hook - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29261 +comment (10Niklas Laxström) [14:21:56] <saper> aude: no indexes on contenthandler stuff? [14:22:11] * saper should have said "indices" [14:22:35] <andre__> Nikerabbit, hell yeah, see bug 38990 :) [14:23:27] * aude doesn't see any in the mysql tables.sql [14:23:29] <andre__> sumanah: Re "How high-quality is the bug database overall?": Hard to answer, but apart from NEEDINFO flagging one indicator can be how many tickets there are that have never received a comment by anybody else than the reporter. And you can query for that. [14:23:33] <aude> saper: ^ [14:23:34] <sumanah> saper: I found out from a board game box that "indices" is French? for "clues" [14:23:59] <sumanah> andre__: good idea [14:24:01] <aude> although if we should have indexes, i think we can consider that [14:24:16] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Buttons to insert missing parameters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38350 +comment (10Niklas Laxström) [14:24:38] <Nikerabbit> andre__: and the compoments of mw core are not too good either [14:24:52] <Nikerabbit> andre__: I'm sorry, there is just so much todo ;) [14:25:33] <andre__> Nikerabbit: if you feel like elaborating, your comment on bug 38990 is very welcome! [14:25:48] <sumanah> !b 38990 [14:25:48] <wm-bot> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38990 [14:26:11] <andre__> sumanah: open tickets with no changes for the last 2 years: 122. open tickets with no comments from anybody else: 2868 [14:26:13] <sumanah> andre__: the bot in this channel is somewhat described at https://toolserver.org/~mwbot/botbrain.html [14:26:42] <sumanah> although wm-bot forked from mw-bot and petan's fork is at http://bots.wmflabs.org/~wm-bot/ [14:27:41] <andre__> I think I'll learn by watching others use the bot. So much stuff to read already :) [14:30:35] <freakolowsky> lots of WMDE pplz here ... anyone from München ... any ql clubs there? [14:31:12] <aude> freakolowsky: i think we are all in berlin [14:31:25] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Buttons to insert missing parameters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38350 +comment (10[[kgh]]) [14:31:41] <saper> freakolowsky: I'm sure quite a few, but I was only twice there and no clubbing then :( [14:31:41] * aude doesn't know where everyone is from, nor germany geography very well :( [14:33:47] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Jarry1250; "(bug #32987) The language used to render SVGs should be definable" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25838 [14:34:43] <gerrit-wm> New review: DaSch; "I would make the patch, but getting this into this gerrit change ID has never worked, so this will o..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17333 [14:38:36] <gerrit-wm> New review: Victor Vasiliev; "I've done some basic testing. This revision does unbreak Scribunto." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27399 [14:46:40] <gerrit-wm> New review: Aude; "Patch looks good as far as I can tell from examining the files. I don't have Oracle so can't verify..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27397 [14:49:04] <gerrit-wm> New review: Demon; "Why did Jenkins respond using CR, and not Verified?" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27394 [14:50:39] <sumanah> !botbrain [14:50:39] <wm-bot> Hello, I'm wm-bot. The database for this channel is published at http://bots.wmflabs.org/~petrb/db/%23mediawiki.htm More about WM-Bot: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/wm-bot [14:50:45] <RogueMadman> ^demon: I've always seen Jenkins put a check mark in verified but a failure in CR. [14:51:01] <^demon> That's not how it's supposed to be. [14:51:22] <RogueMadman> Wait, no. It does both. [14:51:24] <RogueMadman> https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/dashboard/75 [14:51:50] <RogueMadman> https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/9598/: Failure in Verified, https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/5550/: Failure in CR. [14:52:08] <RogueMadman> Well, that's special. [14:52:52] <^demon> hashar: Why's jenkins doing this now? [14:52:55] <^demon> Failures to CR? [14:52:58] <hashar> define this ? [14:52:59] <RogueMadman> But it looks like it more often puts it in verified than not. [14:53:02] <^demon> Instead of VRFW? [14:53:45] <^demon> hashar: eg: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/27394/ [14:54:45] <Jarry1250> ^demon: incidentally, do you know why csteipp's sandbox is a remote branch not a repo? [14:55:36] <^demon> Jarry1250: Everyone has sandbox/$username/* branches with full permissions on all repos [14:56:03] <Jarry1250> ^demon: Oh, I see. Is he the only person using his then? [14:56:12] <Jarry1250> Or he's made it public (read access) [14:56:18] <^demon> https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/admin/projects/mediawiki/core,branches - nope, couple of people are. [14:56:18] <Jarry1250> and no-one else has? [14:56:58] <gerrit-wm> New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "I'm not really happy with the approach taken (code duplication, odd use of exceptions), and think ha..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27406 [14:56:58] <^demon> https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?p=mediawiki/core.git;a=summary lists them too, under heads. [14:56:58] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27406 [14:57:13] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27410 [14:57:19] <hashar> ^demon: I did the change a few weeks ago [14:57:44] <hashar> ^demon: so on success jenkins does verify+1, on failure it does codereview -2 [14:57:47] <^demon> Oh, hadn't noticed. Why the change? [14:57:47] <hashar> (aka do not submit [14:58:28] <hashar> not sure, I can't remember what was my mood when I did this [14:58:35] <^demon> "Do not submit" is just the text label. If we want "Do not submit" for VRFW-1, we can do that too. [14:58:54] <hashar> I can set it back to verify -1 [14:58:56] <^demon> It makes most sense to keep jenkins in the VRFW category. That's what all the docs say and what we've always done. [14:58:58] <^demon> Thanks :) [14:59:05] <hashar> )) [14:59:14] <hashar> and nothing in CR ? [14:59:21] <gerrit-wm> New review: Aude; "This works correctly, both with a fresh install and with using update.php on an older version of Med..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27413 [14:59:40] <^demon> Yeah, omit CR. If we later have jenkins do something like style checks (which aren't a veto issue), you could set CR-1. [14:59:51] <hashar> k [14:59:53] <aude> freakolowsky: saper the PG patch looks good and works well [15:00:01] <hashar> ^demon so it is back to setting just verify [15:00:12] <^demon> k :) [15:01:30] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27414 [15:01:54] <gerrit-wm> New review: Petrb; "comments inside" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27397 [15:03:03] <^demon> hashar: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/repo-discuss/iVl9fsWWg7o/QF_3rcm9pyoJ :( [15:03:24] <^demon> We can't upgrade to 2.5 unless I figure a way around this (or I pester enough for a fix) [15:03:42] <hashar> dohh [15:03:53] <hashar> so definitely get the submit-report patch in a 2.4-wmf version :-] [15:03:58] <RogueMadman> Style checks would be *neat*. I wanna code style checks. :D [15:04:29] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Backport fixes to Wikibase v0.1 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40573 +comment (10denny vrandecic) [15:04:39] <RogueMadman> (Probably shouldn't have said that last part.) [15:04:45] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27412 [15:04:57] <RogueMadman> Can someone with +2 take a look at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/27119/? Positively reviewed and I040c2354 is dependent on it being merged. [15:05:04] <^demon> hashar: I'll try a custom 2.4 build. [15:05:05] <gerrit-wm> New review: Siebrand; "Need to fix tests :(" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27411 [15:05:33] <hashar> ^demon: fine :-] [15:05:41] <saper> ^demon: heh maybe we should switch to OpenID? worksforme :( [15:05:42] <hashar> I am out, need to grab my daughter [15:05:47] <hashar> will be back this evening [15:05:57] <saper> ^demon: so slowly one big advantage of gerrt (ldap) fades away [15:06:27] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Aude; "per bug 40355, inject recent changes nicely [DO NOT MERGE]" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27392 [15:06:28] <RogueMadman> D: [15:06:43] <^demon> saper: Well we need ldap so we can share stuff with labs. I consider this a regression, and I'm going to get it fixed. [15:06:52] <saper> hahah [15:07:32] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: Aude; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27405 [15:08:33] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Config viewer is a 404 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40819 +comment (10Damian Z) [15:09:41] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Buttons to insert missing parameters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38350 +comment (10Niklas Laxström) [15:15:44] <saper> ^demon: do you have by any chance a commit ID of the "new" ldap support in gerrit? [15:16:14] <^demon> No, I haven't tracked it down yet. [15:17:06] <marktraceur> sumanah: New code reviewer? :) [15:18:26] <sumanah> marktraceur: you mean bergi? I noticed bergi a little while back and am hoping s/he will help [15:18:36] <sumanah> saper: have you tried a search via "message:"? [15:19:21] <marktraceur> Cool! [15:20:46] <sumanah> RogueMadman: taking a look to figure out whom to nag [15:20:54] <sumanah> !g 27119 [15:20:54] <wm-bot> https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#q,27119,n,z [15:21:03] <RogueMadman> sumanah: Thanks! <3 [15:21:55] <sumanah> siebrand: got a moment? [15:23:46] <gerrit-wm> New review: Petrb; "In that case it's fine, I just was wondering why you changed code that wasn't related to your patch." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27397 [15:23:53] <sumanah> aharoni: ping, got a moment? [15:24:04] <aharoni> hi [15:24:44] <sumanah> aharoni: do you feel comfortable taking a look at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/27119/ ? [15:24:58] <saper> ^demon: 8363aa51442d645724d75a087dcfc4cd9a037edf [15:25:08] <saper> sumanah: no [15:25:19] <saper> sumanah: I did "git rev-list --grep " [15:25:35] <aharoni> sumanah, looking [15:25:38] <sumanah> saper: I often use "message:" in the gerrit.wikimedia.org web search box [15:26:11] <^demon> sumanah: This is upstream gerrit :) [15:26:28] <^demon> https://gerrit-review.googlesource.com/#/c/35181/ to be specific. [15:26:32] <sumanah> ahh, misunderstood! sorry [15:27:36] <saper> sumanah: still applies to wikimedia, we spoke about postgresql... reviews not merged are not that easy to search .. would probably need to give all refs/changes/*/* as starting points [15:28:27] <sumanah> I do desperately wish for real fulltext search of all fields of the db [15:28:39] <sumanah> patch, review, name of author, commit message, everything [15:29:16] <RogueMadman> That'd be awesome. [15:29:35] <RogueMadman> Is it currently possible (I doubt it) to search by name of file? [15:29:42] <^demon> No, it's not. [15:29:57] <^demon> It's not going to be searchable as long as it's in the database. It really depends on lucene. [15:30:13] <RogueMadman> Ah. That's one of the most common requests I make of the SCM at work. [15:30:29] <RogueMadman> But then, that's probably better for a Git client to do than Gerrit. *shrug* [15:30:45] <RogueMadman> Though it'd be nice to see pending changes. [15:31:11] <RogueMadman> Why do I have the .NET Compact Framework on my machine? Huh. [15:32:10] * RogueMadman sees how many things he can uninstall from his server without breaking it. [15:32:24] <sumanah> RogueMadman: so you like improving tests & you want to improve the style of code that gets into Gerrit? [15:32:26] <sumanah> *smile* [15:32:41] <decci> Hi [15:33:15] <RogueMadman> Hahaha, I knew I shouldn't have said that! But to answer your question, I do certainly like the latter and a bit more experience with Jenkins would be beneficial to me; we use it in my workplace. [15:33:28] <decci> I have mediawiki 1.16 installed . I need to install Rich Editor but it seems like WYSIWYG version support 1.17_ [15:34:18] <^demon> saper: I actually discussed the lucene issue again recently. I think we might end up chatting about it during the hackathon. [15:35:40] <sumanah> ^demon: which hackathon do *you* mean? [15:35:50] <^demon> Gerrit one. [15:35:55] <sumanah> ah right! [15:36:05] * sumanah was worried she had missed an event she was supposed to plan ;-) [15:36:14] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Nikerabbit; "Make tests pass after contenthandler merge" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27419 [15:36:22] <sumanah> decci: tell us why you cannot upgrade MediaWiki? :) [15:36:49] <decci> sumanah: I have PHP 5.1.x version installed. I am not good at upgrading PHP :) [15:36:54] <sumanah> RogueMadman: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Testing_portal has some info [15:37:12] <Nikerabbit> DanielK_WMDE: can you review https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/27419/ ? [15:37:27] <sumanah> RogueMadman: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?p=integration/jenkins.git;a=summary might interest you [15:37:49] <RogueMadman> kk. Will look. :) [15:38:25] <Hydriz> Eh, anyone I can contact in here for the ContentHandler problem? [15:39:19] <Nikerabbit> Hydriz: what is it? [15:39:36] <Hydriz> I think its breaking importDump.php [15:39:56] <Hydriz> "PHP Notice: Undefined index: format in /data/project/public/w/includes/Import.php on line 664" [15:40:19] <Hydriz> works fine on 1.21wmf1, but not when I change to master [15:40:39] <Nikerabbit> let me see [15:41:41] <Nikerabbit> eb5d3a83 so contenthandler [15:41:52] <Hydriz> Thanks, and also about fixing the Translate extension, which broke yesterday or something, though it has been fixed since. [15:42:02] <Nikerabbit> DanielK_WMDE: that is for you guys, I can't see whether that is copy-paste error or something else [15:42:08] <aude> saper: if i see postgres patches, do you want me to add you as reviewer? [15:42:10] <Nikerabbit> Hydriz: broke how? [15:42:15] * aude has seen a bunch lately [15:42:23] <Hydriz> not sure, but it *was* throwing some JS errors [15:42:28] <Hydriz> but now its fixed :) [15:42:55] <Nikerabbit> Hydriz: js hmm no changes there recently [15:43:01] <Nikerabbit> Hydriz: in wmf? [15:43:07] <Nikerabbit> or somewhere else [15:43:12] <Hydriz> no, master [15:43:16] <aude> Hydriz: content handler did not introduce new index anywhere [15:43:40] <Hydriz> hmm... Its somewhere around that timing [15:43:44] <aude> ah, nevermind i see [15:43:54] * aude can look [15:43:58] <Nikerabbit> Hydriz: well, next time, please report it to bugzille :) [15:44:13] <Hydriz> Nikerabbit: sure hehe :) [15:45:40] <Hydriz> oh found it in the logs, Nikerabbit: "File does not exist: /data/project/public/w/.mw-translate-fuzzy{background-color:, referer: http://blah.wmflabs.org/w/index.php?title=Main_Page&action=history" [15:46:06] <Hydriz> should be CSS, heh [15:46:17] <Nikerabbit> uh what? [15:46:18] <Hydriz> but it was calling things wrongly [15:49:55] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Nikerabbit; "Added framework for key generation algorithms in GettextFFS" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27411 [15:50:51] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) Code come with Book creation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40924 normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (juandevojnikov) [15:52:35] <Nikerabbit> Hydriz: btw they also have channel #wikimedia-wikidata [15:53:01] <Hydriz> Nikerabbit: I am not 100% sure it is due to ContentHandler issue [15:53:10] <Hydriz> The error I am getting is vague [15:54:08] <Hydriz> thanks anyway, gtg already :) [15:58:04] <wikibugs> 03(mod) The search box's 'title' argument is "Search Wikipedia" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40910 +comment (10Krenair) [15:58:51] <decci> Where shall I add logo . Which file contains $wglogo [15:59:30] <decci> git it [15:59:39] <decci> got it..its under LocalSettings.php [16:03:26] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Description in the language of the project - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40918 (10Raylton P. Sousa) [16:04:55] <gerrit-wm> New review: Matmarex; "It might be used by any user script which any input fields." [mediawiki/extensions/Narayam] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27388 [16:06:54] <Krenair> Is the code for the WMF blog skin in a public Git repo? [16:11:14] <decci> How shall I change Community portal, Main Page, Help etc at the left hadn side in the mediawiki [16:12:41] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Aude; "fix fatal error in HttpTest" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27420 [16:19:59] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Alex Monk; "(bug 40910) Fix 'Search Wikipedia [f]' search input title" [wikimedia/communications/WP-Victor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27421 [16:20:23] <wikibugs> 03(mod) The search box's 'title' argument is "Search Wikipedia" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40910 +comment (10Krenair) [16:22:08] <gerrit-wm> New review: Alex Monk; "My previous reply to this: "Probably, but I figure it's safer to leave that step to the user. Maybe ..." [mediawiki/extensions/Oversight] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/18229 [16:24:36] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Description in the language of the project - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40918 +i18n (10Krenair) [16:27:34] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) Difference in Currencies being displayed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40925 normal; Wikimedia: Shop; (sonara.arnav) [16:27:42] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Wikidata should not return 406 Not Acceptable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40032 (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [16:27:43] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Provide XSD for updated export format - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40766 (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [16:27:47] <wikibugs> 03(mod) [Wikidata branch] Reliably prevent direct editing of non-text content (3) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40179 (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [16:27:49] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Provide replacement for ShowRawCssJs hook - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40853 (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [16:27:51] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Split creation of secondary data updates from parsing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36901 (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [16:27:53] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Provide correct @since and deprecation versions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40767 (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [16:27:54] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Consider using canonical parser options for Content::getParserOutput() - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40653 (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [16:27:54] <wikibugs> 03(mod) schema update doesn't work for postgresql - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40891 (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [16:27:57] <wikibugs> 03(mod) consolidate database patches - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40851 (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [16:27:57] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Fix usage of makeParserOptions in ApiParse - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40654 (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [16:27:58] <wikibugs> 03(mod) [Wikidata branch] Prevent page moves that would change the page's implicit content model - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40421 (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [16:27:59] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Updater should not add contenthandler stuff to the DB if $wgContentHandlerUseDB is disabled. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40854 (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [16:28:44] <EvilCat> hello! can you help me with encodings? I'm sychronysing a very old website to my MediaWiki, and the website's encoding is cp1251 - Windows Cyrillic. prior to salting passwords on website, they are converted to UTF-8, and the website and the MediaWiki share the same salts and salted passwords. before sending login to Login API, I too convert it to UTF-8, and the wiki recognizes it fine. [16:29:13] <EvilCat> but passwords with cyrillic letters don't check out even after they're converted. [16:30:33] <Platonides> they may not need cyrillic conversion... [16:31:37] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Enhance the account creation limit on Malayalam Wikipedia for an event (October 13, 2012) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40911 +comment (10Krenair) [16:31:41] <EvilCat> well, that's the same operation that the main site does to them before salting. [16:31:42] <Platonides> if you have $wgLegacyEncoding set, mediawiki will also try the password in windows-1252 [16:32:10] <Platonides> (which is different in some characters than 1251...) [16:32:34] <Platonides> in which direction are you synchornizing? [16:33:26] <EvilCat> users are only allowed to register at website now, but I had some users on wiki already - they are copied to site's database now. [16:34:38] <Platonides> you could implement an authplugin for your website [16:35:52] <EvilCat> where in MediaWiki's files are auth function? I'd like to see which operation exactly it does. [16:35:59] <Platonides> includes/User.php [16:36:42] <Platonides> you could call the functions in User.php [16:37:20] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Current master fails jenkins test - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40915 +comment (10Krinkle) [16:37:38] <EvilCat> that's a big file... [16:37:55] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Current master fails jenkins test - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40915 +comment (10Krinkle) [16:37:58] <Platonides> it has many things [16:38:08] <Platonides> see for instance checkPassword)( [16:38:55] <EvilCat> yes, legacy encodings might do the trick... [16:40:05] <wikibugs> 03(WONTFIX) add a custom field "commit in gerrit" in bugzilla ui. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39399 +comment (10Krinkle) [16:41:21] <EvilCat> no, it did not. on the website, the passwords are encoded in the following way: [16:41:23] <Platonides> its windows-1252, not 1251 [16:41:55] <EvilCat> $unipass=iconv('cp1251', 'utf-8', $pass); [16:41:55] <EvilCat> $salted=MD5($salt.'-'.MD5($unipass)); [16:42:08] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Underline option only works for legacy skins - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29718 +patch-in-gerrit; +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [16:42:14] <EvilCat> wnen logging it, they are checked with this query: [16:42:33] <EvilCat> $testpass=iconv('cp1251', 'utf-8', $uspass); [16:42:39] <EvilCat> BINARY uspass = MD5(CONCAT(salt, '-', MD5('$testpass'))) [16:43:14] <Platonides> an auth plugin can authorise a user [16:43:20] <Platonides> !authplugin [16:43:21] <wm-bot> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/AuthPlugin [16:43:49] <EvilCat> thank you, let's see... [16:44:10] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Made real name field optional by default" [mediawiki/extensions/EducationProgram] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/18984 [16:44:17] <wikibugs> 03(mod) post expand size counted multiple times for nested transclusions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/13260 (10Krinkle) [16:44:18] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Database::tableExists() shows notice - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28481 (10Krinkle) [16:44:19] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Tracking bug (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/2007 (10Krinkle) [16:45:00] <MatmaRex> hey, i just noticed i've gotten on the bugzilla quip list :D [16:45:20] <RogueMadman> I don't remember who was reviewing https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/27119/ but I think he or she died. D: [16:50:41] <wikibugs> 03(mod) ResourceLoader: Missing files in a module should trigger an error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40892 +comment (10Krinkle) [16:52:26] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Umherirrender; "Add separate fa_sha1 field to filearchive table" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17512 [16:53:16] <gerrit-wm> New review: Umherirrender; "Patch Set 10: Rebased and moved to 1.21" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17512 [16:55:30] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Implement a way to index Bugzilla bugs by Wikimedia wiki family - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38994 +comment (10Krinkle) [16:56:21] <gerrit-wm> New review: Reedy; "There's still no RELEASE-NOTES entry.." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17512 [16:56:56] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27419 [16:57:07] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Siebrand; "Added framework for key generation algorithms in GettextFFS" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27411 [16:57:33] <EvilCat> hmm... when using MediaWiki interface, passwords are inputted in UTF-8, but when a user logs in via the main website, passwords are in cp1251. so, either the Auth plugin must be conscionous to the fact if it's responding to the ebsite's API request, or API request should convert password to the same encoding (no Auth plugin required). [16:58:06] <EvilCat> I just don't get why MediaWiki gets a different md5 result than the website even if I convert passwords to UTF-8. [17:01:40] <wikibugs> 03(mod) cologneblue skin is not easily configurable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/16259 +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [17:03:50] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: MarkTraceur; "Add three tests for categories mixed with templates." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27424 [17:05:43] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/EducationProgram] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/18984 [17:06:44] <gerrit-wm> New review: Siebrand; "Please review soon. There's another merge conflict." [mediawiki/extensions/EducationProgram] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26586 [17:07:44] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Fixed some docs" [mediawiki/extensions/EducationProgram] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27425 [17:10:02] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Fixed typo" [mediawiki/extensions/EducationProgram] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27426 [17:11:24] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Umherirrender; "Avoid using $wgUser in TitlePermissionTest" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26891 [17:12:02] <gerrit-wm> New review: Umherirrender; "Rebased" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26891 [17:12:05] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Fixed another typo" [mediawiki/extensions/EducationProgram] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27427 [17:12:13] <EvilCat> so. when I set password with MediaWiki and copy salt and salted password to the website, both MediaWiki and website log in fine despite cyrillic symbols. but when I set a cyrillic password with website, only website logs in, MediaWiki gives "WrongPassword". and they have the same salt/passwords in both cases. [17:12:24] <EvilCat> how is this possible? [17:12:52] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Added missing @throws tag" [mediawiki/extensions/EducationProgram] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27428 [17:13:42] <marktraceur> EvilCat: Maybe MW needs something more than salt and password that you aren't setting when you copy it the other way? [17:13:55] * marktraceur is speculating hardcore [17:14:06] <EvilCat> but passwords with latin and numbers work in both cases. [17:14:15] <marktraceur> Hm. [17:14:43] <marktraceur> EvilCat: Is there an encoding variable somewhere, that tells MW what characters to expect in the password? [17:14:56] <marktraceur> (still wild speculation) [17:15:33] <EvilCat> maybe. wait, I'll try something out... [17:15:56] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Mtyeh411; "some fixes (tested on SMW 1.7)" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticTasks] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27429 [17:16:04] <marktraceur> EvilCat: Do please let us know if and how you solve it, this seems like a good start to a wiki page.... [17:17:46] <EvilCat> it still may be my mistake somewhere. anyway, I feel like soon I will know all there is to know about implementing MediaWiki in an iframe... [17:18:12] <marktraceur> EvilCat: I'm sure you will! :) [17:18:35] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Umherirrender; "Avoid using $wgUser in TitlePermissionTest" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26891 [17:18:49] <marktraceur> EvilCat: Generally, it would be really cool if you could document the steps you take somewhere. I don't know if you've seen bug 1, but it's a good guideline :) [17:18:52] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Category tree shows inexisting categories and inexisting content (caching issue) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33608 +comment (10Daniel Renfro) [17:21:05] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Krinkle; "Fix the jqueryMsg tests for plural rule parsing" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27393 [17:21:44] <EvilCat> marktraceur, ok, I'll to that %) I've spent three days already on this task, could save someone's time. [17:23:35] <gerrit-wm> New review: Umherirrender; "Fix test, cannot set $wgUser to null, because it is used internal in User.php to check the block sta..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26891 [17:25:35] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: GWicke; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27424 [17:26:18] <csteipp> EvilCat: passwords are compared in utf8, and if that fails, it tries win-1252//TRANSLIT conversion. [17:26:33] <gerrit-wm> New review: Aaron Schulz; "I believe all callers have been updated...one could double check with grep." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25436 [17:26:44] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Krinkle; "Fix the jqueryMsg tests for plural rule parsing" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27393 [17:26:53] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Umherirrender; "Add separate fa_sha1 field to filearchive table" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17512 [17:27:47] <gerrit-wm> New review: Umherirrender; "Sorry, added Release Note with Patch Set 11." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17512 [17:28:31] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: Robmoen; [mediawiki/extensions/Vector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26346 [17:29:05] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) Moving files results in broken descriptions and deleted images - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40927 normal; MediaWiki: File management; (maic274) [17:30:33] <gerrit-wm> New review: Siebrand; "Jeroen, please review my maintenance patch, as I fear these little patches have some redundancy." [mediawiki/extensions/EducationProgram] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27428 [17:34:54] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: Krinkle; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27393 [17:40:27] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Mobile browser autodetection doesn't work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36894 +comment (10Quim Gil) [17:41:58] <MatmaRex> could somebody with +2 in core *please* look at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/23674/ ? i'm trying to get this merged before next deployment, been waiting for almost a month, already two +1s [17:42:14] <wikibugs> 14(WFM) Problems with Firefox in Mac OS 10.4 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24069 +comment (10Brion Vibber) [17:43:40] <gerrit-wm> New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "A few minor issues" [mediawiki/extensions/EducationProgram] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26586 [17:45:51] <gerrit-wm> Change abandoned: Jeroen De Dauw; "this one does, and made me realized I still needed to review yours :)" [mediawiki/extensions/EducationProgram] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27428 [17:46:21] <gerrit-wm> New review: Kaldari; "Asher: Can you provide more information besides "schema fail"?" [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16580 [17:47:37] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Matthias Mullie; "Bug 40775 - Metrics Study 6: Article Feedback Edit Conversions" [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26782 [17:47:53] <gerrit-wm> New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "Do not merge before https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/26586/" [mediawiki/extensions/EducationProgram] (master); V: 0 C: -2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27425 [17:47:53] <salquint> Hi guys. I've got nice system for showing / hiding the sidebar on article pages so more space is available for the article. But it involves me reloading the page. Does anyone know of a method that works more like show / hide? So far I haven't found it. [17:48:59] <marktraceur> salquint: You should be able to use jQuery's show and hide methods without much issue. I don't know if that's the Recommended Way (TM), though. [17:49:34] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: Bsitu; [mediawiki/extensions/MoodBar] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26336 [17:49:48] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) "SwiftCloudFiles extension not installed" error reported when trying to use SwiftCloud Files extension on MediaWiki 1.20+ - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40928 major; MediaWiki extensions: [other]; (thomas.noonan) [17:49:56] <salquint> I'll take a look Mark, thanks. [17:50:09] <marktraceur> salquint: No problem! And ask if you need more clarification :) [17:50:16] <wikibugs> 03(mod) "SwiftCloudFiles extension not installed" error reported when trying to use SwiftCloud Files extension on MediaWiki 1.20+ - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40928 +comment (10Tom Noonan II) [17:50:33] <salquint> I definitely need more clarification, but I'll do some homework first before just typing "huh?" [17:50:36] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) Old resources being loaded hours after deployment - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40929 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend; (arichards) [17:51:37] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Old resources being loaded hours after deployment - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40929 +comment (10Arthur Richards) [17:52:13] <MatmaRex> salquint: this might not be that easy, skins like vector and monobook do some heavy CSS magic there [17:52:26] <wikibugs> 03(mod) "SwiftCloudFiles extension not installed" error reported when trying to use SwiftCloud Files extension on MediaWiki 1.20+ - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40928 +comment (10Tom Noonan II) [17:53:06] <salquint> It seems like it, that's why I went with the reload option, but that gets old pretty quickly [17:53:19] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Matthias Mullie; "Refactor AFT backend" [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24264 [17:53:35] <marktraceur> salquint: No, "huh" is probably the right response, I tend to start off specific and explain as I go....jQuery is a library we use for DOM manipulation, and should be loaded on most pages in MediaWiki. You can select the DOM element you want to hide (in this case, the sidebar) with jQuery, then do .hide() or .show() on the returned object. [17:53:55] <EvilCat> the passwords issue seem to be some kind of cache problem. after I changed password at the main website, I wasn't able to log in by the new password in the MediaWiki - but I could with old password! from cookies prefix, shared database worked. I changed "real name" field in the shared database, but MediaWiki didn't notice it. then I changed "real name" in MediaWiki, and it changed (in DB [17:53:55] <EvilCat> also), and it switched to new password. [17:54:08] <MatmaRex> salquint: there's a gadget at pl.wiki that does this for Vector and Monobook skins [17:54:12] <MatmaRex> salquint: https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Nux/hideSidebar.js [17:54:46] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Improved file icon for unknown MIME types - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40875 +comment (10Brion Vibber) [17:54:56] <MatmaRex> you could just copy the contents to your mediawiki:common.js, i think. [17:55:03] <EvilCat> somewhere in MW files must be a command to flush user cache. [17:55:10] <salquint> That looks promising, I'll give it a try. [17:55:28] <wikibugs> 03(mod) "SwiftCloudFiles extension not installed" error reported when trying to use SwiftCloud Files extension on MediaWiki 1.20+ - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40928 +comment (10Aaron Schulz) [17:58:10] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Inline styles in wikitext cause problems on mobile site and app - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35704 +comment (10Jon) [17:58:18] <Reedy> EvilCat: $user->invalidateCache [17:58:27] <Reedy> $wgMemc->delete( wfMemcKey( 'user', 'id', $this->mId ) ); [17:58:32] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Mobile browser autodetection doesn't work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36894 +comment (10Jon) [17:59:09] <EvilCat> thank you! [17:59:17] <salquint> Hey that worked great. Thanks for the help guys [18:00:05] <salquint> well almost great. After hiding and showing, the link goes away, but it's close and something to work on [18:00:11] <EvilCat> I wonder if I can do that via API or outside of MediaWiki environment anyway. [18:00:41] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Hoo man; "Resolved two array_map wfMsg FIXMEs" [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27364 [18:00:53] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Pgehres; "Unsetting alternate amount fields once we have normalized the amount" [mediawiki/extensions/DonationInterface] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27432 [18:01:18] <MatmaRex> salquint: hm, that's weird, it shouldnt disappear [18:01:29] <gerrit-wm> New review: Hoo man; "Using foreach loops instead of anonymous functions now." [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27364 [18:01:46] <salquint> if I refresh it comes back, but it's pretty consistent if I don't, hide - show - gone [18:02:53] <MatmaRex> that's really weird, doesnt happen for me on pl.wiki. can you give me a link to the site? [18:03:12] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Old resources being loaded hours after deployment - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40929 +comment (10Arthur Richards) [18:05:44] <wikibugs> 14(INVALID) "SwiftCloudFiles extension not installed" error reported when trying to use SwiftCloud Files extension on MediaWiki 1.20+ - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40928 +comment (10Tom Noonan II) [18:05:48] <salquint> I wish I could, it's on an intranet. I've got a custom sidebar, I'm seeing some odd things... if the sidebar is too long, it doesn't appear... but the functionality is present, I can click in the area it would be in and it works [18:07:39] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Metrics Study 6: Article Feedback Edit Conversions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40775 +comment (10Dario Taraborelli) [18:07:40] <MatmaRex> maybe you have some custom CSS that changes z-index of the sidebar in some way unexpected by the script [18:07:46] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Mobile browser autodetection doesn't work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36894 +comment (10Quim Gil) [18:07:56] <MatmaRex> it should appear above the sidebar if it's long enough to reach bottom of the screen [18:08:03] <MatmaRex> above, as in [18:08:09] <MatmaRex> on top of [18:08:29] <salquint> the code in the link put it below the sidebar [18:08:35] <wikibugs> 03(WONTFIX) Description in the language of the project - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40918 +comment (10Ralf Schmitt) [18:08:57] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27260 [18:09:17] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Christian; "Added reversed boolean for translateOffset" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27435 [18:10:03] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) payments.wikimedia.org doesn't support IE9 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40883 +comment (10Peter Gehres (WMF)) [18:10:07] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/extensions/CentralAuth] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27261 [18:10:13] <Krenair> sumanah, got another weird meaningless email from the person who made that strange bug yesterday [18:10:25] <salquint> actually not below the sidebar, always in the lower left corner of the browser (IE and Firefox so far) [18:10:35] <sumanah> Krenair: no threats or anything like that, right? [18:10:48] <Krenair> Nope [18:10:53] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/extensions/LdapAuthentication] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27262 [18:11:18] <MatmaRex> salquint: yes, loewr left, but in a "higher layer" than the sidebar [18:11:30] <MatmaRex> it should always be visible, even if sidebar reaches that point [18:11:37] <salquint> Ah, I see. Firefox works fine, it's just IE that causes the disappearance [18:11:45] <sumanah> Krenair: good. thanks for the heads-up though [18:12:09] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Description in the language of the project - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40918 +comment (10Krenair) [18:12:18] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/extensions/SpamBlacklist] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27263 [18:12:37] <salquint> It would be nice if it worked better in IE, but I can explain that to people, that's pretty good [18:13:03] <MatmaRex> that's still weird, but IE, i guess, nothing ever works properly [18:13:04] <salquint> and it stays hidden while navigating, very cool [18:13:09] <salquint> yup [18:15:23] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Umherirrender; "Remove a bunch of trailing spaces and unneeded newlines" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27436 [18:17:25] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "Avoid thumb.php fatal for bad titles on private wikis." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27438 [18:17:27] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27438 [18:19:23] <salquint> Thanks again guys, take care [18:21:59] <gerrit-wm> New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "Looks fine to me. Will merge in a week if no one does that before or raises any objections. Please t..." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticTasks] (master); V: 0 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27429 [18:26:30] <EvilCat> so. I guess trying to create MW classes in an external script or looking for cache storage by hand is a futile effort. also, there are no extensions to order MW to flush its object cache. I guess I should write an extension to perform "$user->invalidateCache" on GET command. [18:26:54] <EvilCat> or turn off cache. but then my MediaWiki will be really, really slow :\ [18:27:54] <sumanah> hi SPQRobin [18:27:57] <sumanah> got a moment? [18:30:35] <SPQRobin> hi sumanah, yes [18:31:02] <sumanah> SPQRobin: do you mind if I request code reviews from you on language engineering-related patchsets? there is no obligation [18:33:28] <SPQRobin> sumanah: yes, would also be good because I like to be informed about i18n-related new features & bug fixes, and I'll try to do code reviews too when I am able to and have time :) [18:33:41] <sumanah> Great :) [18:34:07] <sumanah> SPQRobin: one thing you can do is search like this: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/message:i18n,n,z [18:35:04] <sumanah> SPQRobin: you can also, within Gerrit, add preferences to have changesets in specific repositories added to your dashboard [18:35:08] <gerrit-wm> New review: Hoo man; "(Untested and not firm with the extension) Only stylistic suggestions, the code looks like it is goi..." [mediawiki/extensions/EtherEditor] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14153 [18:35:16] <sumanah> SPQRobin: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/settings/projects [18:35:45] <marktraceur> hoo boy, thanks for reviewing [18:36:04] <marktraceur> (and I love highlighting you with quaint-sounding interjections) [18:36:13] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Implement a way to index Bugzilla bugs by Wikimedia wiki family - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38994 +comment (10Nemo_bis) [18:36:17] <sumanah> marktraceur: I never noticed before the way that "human/hoo boy" has that double pun in it [18:36:59] <SPQRobin> sumanah: ah thanks for the info. I was using watched projects but I didn't regularly check those. It seems the e-mail notifications are new. [18:37:11] <marktraceur> Oh cool, I didn't notice "hoo man -> human" [18:37:14] <hoo> sumanah: On wiki it's actually "Hoo man" (firstly even w/o space), which sounds quite like human :D [18:37:24] <sumanah> hoo: is it inspired by Ferengi? [18:37:41] <sumanah> SPQRobin: glad to help -- yeah, Gerrit has new stuff in it. And will have even more useful features after the next upgrade [18:38:54] <hoo> sumanah: No... what or who is that? :P I actually wanted to use "Hoo", but that was in use on dewiki, so I chose Hooman... after CentralAuth was rolled out, I renamed cause Hooman was in use by someone else [18:39:10] <hoo> (Hooman is a Farsi name, as it found out later) [18:39:14] <hoo> * I [18:39:25] <sumanah> hoo: the "Ferengi" aliens on Star Trek pronounce "human" as "hoo-mahn" [18:39:57] <wikibugs> 03(mod) High OOM rate in refreshLinks2 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39493 +comment (10Aaron Schulz) [18:40:04] <sumanah> hoo: ""Ferengi" and similar terms are Arabic names for European traders, or for Westerners in general. The name is likely derived from the Arabic word faranj or ifranj, or Persian farangi, meaning "Franks"." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferengi#Etymology [18:40:59] <hoo> Enwiki really has an article about everything :P [18:41:06] <marktraceur> *nod* because the Persians loved hot dogs. [18:41:23] * marktraceur learns so much in this channel [18:42:02] <marktraceur> I suppose an </sarcasm> would be helpful here [18:42:32] <hoo> marktraceur: Do you have an AbuseFilter testing env.? I partly rewrote it's JS earlier today and plan to finish that maybe later tonight, but I can't really test it :/ [18:42:37] <wikibugs> 03(mod) MF beta ribbon language button doesn't trigger when scrolled down on page in Chrome on Android - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40903 +comment (10Brion Vibber) [18:43:15] <marktraceur> hoo: I don't....what does it need, anything special? I could probably set it up for you somewhere, at least. [18:44:21] <hoo> No, I can do it at my own then... rewriting that much JS without testing wont probably work out well, there's always something one doesn't think about [18:45:33] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Christian; "Grouping reversed condition" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27439 [18:51:38] <sumanah> hoo|away: beta labs? [18:51:46] <sumanah> oh wait, I see what you mean [18:52:36] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Implement a way to index Bugzilla bugs by Wikimedia wiki family - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38994 +comment (10Krinkle) [18:55:03] <marktraceur> hoo|away: All right, well, happy to help if you need it :) [18:56:03] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Implement a way to index Bugzilla bugs by Wikimedia wiki family - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38994 +comment (10Nemo_bis) [19:00:40] <gerrit-wm> New review: Matmarex; "Re-reading my replies here: please disregard what I said about "discriminating non-English languages..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27039 [19:01:05] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Catrope; "Added reversed boolean for translateOffset" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27435 [19:01:37] <gerrit-wm> New review: Catrope; "Patchset 2 folds in the changes from https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/27439" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27435 [19:01:47] <gerrit-wm> Change abandoned: Catrope; "Folded into https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/27435" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27439 [19:05:40] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Christian; "Added reversed boolean for translateOffset" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27435 [19:13:24] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Preference or default setting to open search result lists and suggestions in new tab - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35974 (10Sumana Harihareswara) [19:13:25] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Make entries in the search suggestions dropdown actual hyperlinks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/21167 (10Sumana Harihareswara) [19:18:14] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) Special:Create property (8) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40227 (10denny vrandecic) [19:18:22] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) Generalize Selenium tests so they work for items and properties (8) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40231 (10denny vrandecic) [19:18:50] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) Put sites and language data into resource loader (5) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40545 (10denny vrandecic) [19:19:08] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) HTML does not contain the edit links for an item (21) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40053 (10denny vrandecic) [19:19:20] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) Make wikibase.autocomplete perfectly independent from wikibase (5) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40546 (10denny vrandecic) [19:19:22] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) VisualEditor: Backspace deletes the wrong character - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40416 +comment (10Christian Williams) [19:19:36] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) UI: toolbar remains disabled when error tooltip is shown - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40849 (10denny vrandecic) [19:19:49] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) label & description input field stay disabled when editing the value twice in a row without reloading the page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40659 (10denny vrandecic) [19:20:36] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) Rename globals $wb* to $wgWB* and $egWB* to $wgWB* (2) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40552 (10denny vrandecic) [19:20:57] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) content/EntityHandler.php:getFromId() (1) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40553 (10denny vrandecic) [19:21:08] <wikibugs> 03(mod) VisualEditor: Pre-annotations don't work if at first character of a blank line (paragraph or list item) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40677 +comment (10Christian Williams) [19:21:18] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) Uniqueness of label and description per language for items - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40554 (10denny vrandecic) [19:21:30] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) Change type "wikibase-item" to "item" (2) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40555 (10denny vrandecic) [19:21:43] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) Translatable data type labels - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40556 (10denny vrandecic) [19:21:53] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) Diff between .js- and .css-revisions broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40639 (10denny vrandecic) [19:22:05] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) Check permissions on read (3) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40557 (10denny vrandecic) [19:22:09] <Reedy> lol [19:22:22] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) EditEntity.php:attemptSave(): check token (1) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40558 (10denny vrandecic) [19:22:33] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) Change containing structure from item to entity (1) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40559 (10denny vrandecic) [19:22:41] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) Replace wbgetitem with wbgetentity (8) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40560 (10denny vrandecic) [19:22:45] <Reedy> Project director Wikidata is cheating. [19:22:56] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) API Phase 2 Design (8) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38702 (10denny vrandecic) [19:23:05] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) Check if watchlists work (3) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40564 (10denny vrandecic) [19:23:14] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) Selenium tests for item deletion/undeletion propagation to client (3) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40761 (10denny vrandecic) [19:23:25] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) Sitelinks do not get removed from wbc_items_per_site on item-deletion - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40922 (10denny vrandecic) [19:23:37] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) Set up and test the pretty URLs for Wikidata (5) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40389 (10denny vrandecic) [19:24:14] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) Content handler for different types of wiki content (5) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36450 (10denny vrandecic) [19:25:06] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Preference or default setting to open search result lists and suggestions in new tab - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35974 (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [19:25:07] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Search Suggest bugs (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27411 (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [19:25:08] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Make entries in the search suggestions dropdown actual hyperlinks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/21167 (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [19:25:09] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Have search suggest results open in a new tab on middle click - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/17808 (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [19:25:26] <Krinkle> what just happened? [19:26:00] <MatmaRex> "Change Several Bugs at Once" did. twice. [19:27:42] <Reedy> mmm [19:27:51] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Siebrand; "Maintenance for EducationProgram extension." [mediawiki/extensions/EducationProgram] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26586 [19:28:21] <gerrit-wm> New review: Siebrand; "PS5 is rebase and merge conflict resolving. Next PS will address the comments on PS4." [mediawiki/extensions/EducationProgram] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26586 [19:29:20] <Nikerabbit> hi Reedy [19:29:29] <Reedy> ohai [19:29:48] <Nikerabbit> Reedy: are you gona try xcom? [19:29:59] <wikibugs> 03(mod) VisualEditor: Upload-by-insertion of images via copy-paste - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37932 +comment (10Christian Williams) [19:30:34] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) Regression: ContentHandler prevents action=edit append to blank page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40930 normal; MediaWiki: API; (b-jorsch) [19:32:16] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Anomie; "(bug 40930) Fix regression: ContentHandler prevents action=edit append to blank page" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27441 [19:32:38] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Regression: ContentHandler prevents action=edit append to blank page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40930 +comment (10Brad Jorsch) [19:36:06] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: IAlex; "Use Html class instead of Xml where possible in Special:Contributions" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27442 [19:41:23] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: preilly; "STC changes" [mediawiki/extensions/ZeroRatedMobileAccess] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27444 [19:41:48] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: preilly; [mediawiki/extensions/ZeroRatedMobileAccess] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27444 [19:49:31] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: preilly; "Update ZeroRatedMobileAccess to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf12) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27445 [19:50:06] <Reedy> preilly: Nothing is currently running on 1.20wmf12 [19:50:23] <preilly> Reedy: yeah I know that was an error on my part [19:50:32] <gerrit-wm> Change abandoned: preilly; "(no reason)" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.20wmf12) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27445 [19:50:42] <Reedy> heh [19:51:20] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Adapt wikibase.autocomplete to required data structure (3) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40547 (10denny vrandecic) [19:51:28] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: preilly; "Update ZeroRatedMobileAccess to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf1) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27446 [19:51:30] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Section layout for suggestion list (5) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40548 (10denny vrandecic) [19:51:35] <preilly> Reedy: thanks for the heads-up [19:51:39] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Highlight first suggestion when auto-completing (3) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40549 (10denny vrandecic) [19:51:54] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: preilly; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf1) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27446 [19:52:41] <gerrit-wm> New review: Matmarex; "Did not test this, only looked. Looks pretty sound, just a couple of minor issues." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26440 [19:53:12] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Link to the correct user on the repository (13) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40566 (10denny vrandecic) [19:53:25] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Custom rendering of recent changes in the client with incoming data (5) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40567 (10denny vrandecic) [19:53:26] <MatmaRex> this is amazing, new review info is shown here quicker than in my browser [19:53:34] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) blacklist extension handling is broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/11142 +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [19:53:38] <MatmaRex> (and i dont mean "amazing" in a good way. :P) [19:53:43] <wikibugs> 03(mod) User preferences for viewing recent changes with external updates (13) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40568 (10denny vrandecic) [19:53:54] <sumanah> MatmaRex: you mean because Gerrit rendering is slow? [19:54:45] <MatmaRex> i usually describe it as "gerrit sucks", but yes. (not that i mind much, you can get used to it ;) ) [19:55:01] <Nikerabbit> it's quite slow at times [19:55:08] <Nikerabbit> much faster if you are in US [19:55:27] <sumanah> aude: FYI, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) is another person who can help a little with PosgreSQL stuff (along with Greg Sabino Mullane) [19:56:15] <^demon> Greg's never around :\ [19:56:36] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Regression: ContentHandler prevents action=edit append to blank page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40930 +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [19:56:37] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Regression: ContentHandler prevents action=edit append to blank page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40930 +patch-in-gerrit (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [19:56:41] <sumanah> !g 9711 [19:56:41] <wm-bot> https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#q,9711,n,z [19:56:48] <Nikerabbit> morning ^demon [19:58:28] <wikibugs> 03(ASSIGNED) Difference in Currencies being displayed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40925 +comment (10James Alexander) [19:59:52] <gerrit-wm> New review: Siebrand; "Thanks for the review." [mediawiki/extensions/EducationProgram] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26586 [20:00:52] <^demon> Nikerabbit: Afternoon :) [20:01:06] <Nikerabbit> ^demon: oh afternoon already [20:01:47] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Occasional temporary problem: no search results for any search terms - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35691 +comment (10Timeshifter) [20:02:09] <Reedy> It is even in SF too ;) [20:05:04] <marktraceur> Nikerabbit: Where are you, GMT+2? [20:05:17] <marktraceur> s/GMT/UTC/ [20:06:16] <Nikerabbit> marktraceur: something like that, winter time starts soon [20:06:54] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Current master fails jenkins test - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40915 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [20:09:15] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Current master fails jenkins test - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40915 +comment (10Krinkle) [20:09:34] <gerrit-wm> New review: Amire80; "Looks OK. It would be much easier to review it with testing directions - how people who are not fami..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27119 [20:10:18] <Krinkle> hashar: I know that if we merged it without rebasing first it would've caused the failure still [20:10:41] <Krinkle> but overal it is a good habit to *not* enforce Verified:+2, and instead only do it if Jenkins did it wrong or didn't run for some reason. [20:10:57] <Krinkle> It appears Tim has the habit of forcing Verified:+2 regardless by default. [20:11:13] <Krinkle> I see it on every single change, even if Jenkins already ran. [20:11:26] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Description in the language of the project - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40918 +comment (10Juan de Vojníkov) [20:11:48] <hashar> Krinkle: i do enforce V+2 regardless, just as an habit [20:11:55] <Krinkle> . in order words, only if Gerrit says "sorry, need verified" [20:12:06] <Krinkle> not "lets do it anyway in case it complains" [20:12:10] <Krinkle> there is a reason for that [20:12:24] <hashar> so I just do it to make sure Gerrit will not complain :-] [20:12:24] <Krinkle> bad habit if you ask me, for what purpose? [20:12:57] <hashar> oh and Jenkins was doing CR+2 since a few weeks ago [20:13:05] <hashar> fixed that, it is now doing V+2 again [20:13:45] <gerrit-wm> New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "Ah, damn you "parsemag"! Glad we're now rid of that :)" [mediawiki/extensions/EducationProgram] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26586 [20:13:45] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/EducationProgram] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26586 [20:14:00] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Cite anchors should be numbered starting at 1 to correspond with on-screen labels - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/10537 +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [20:14:04] <Krinkle> okay, but still, doing it by default is bad. Even if Jenkins has its problems, don't do it unless it is needed. We've now seen it go wrong. Lets learn from it :) [20:14:25] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Wikipedia sends desktop site to Boot2Gecko (Firefox OS) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40919 +comment (10Brion Vibber) [20:14:32] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Wikitech's MediaWiki installation should be updated - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37317 +ops; +comment (10MZMcBride) [20:15:05] <gerrit-wm> New review: Siebrand; "ow damn. You merged before I actually fixed the comments (and more)..." [mediawiki/extensions/EducationProgram] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26586 [20:15:53] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Hoo man; "(bug 7851) Added AJAX patrolling (mediawiki.page.patrol.ajax)" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26440 [20:16:57] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: Bsitu; [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25611 [20:18:43] <wikibugs> 14(WFM) Enable editors to declare ref body text outside of main article prose. Also Enable editors to control footnote ordering. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/18890 +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [20:20:54] <hoo> the RELEASE-NOTES are always good to cause merge conflicts... [20:21:54] <gerrit-wm> New review: Siebrand; "The 35 mins of updates that I made are gone now. You can revert this, or go through the comments aga..." [mediawiki/extensions/EducationProgram] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26586 [20:22:19] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) Old resources being loaded hours after deployment - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40929 +comment (10Arthur Richards) [20:24:49] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) Parsoid Jenkins job needs a push to be ready to run - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40931 normal; Wikimedia: Testing Infrastructure; (mtraceur) [20:26:34] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) File upload using SwiftCloudFiles returns 'Could not create directory "mwstore://localSwift/public".' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40932 normal; MediaWiki extensions: [other]; (thomas.noonan) [20:26:56] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Parsoid Jenkins job needs a push to be ready to run - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40931 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [20:27:54] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) Automated testing in Jenkins - Tracking - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40933 normal; Parsoid: JS/General; (mtraceur) [20:27:55] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Parsoid / parserTests: Add JUnit XML test output for Jenkins integration - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38092 (10Mark Holmquist) [20:27:56] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Tracking bug (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/2007 (10Mark Holmquist) [20:27:58] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Parsoid Jenkins job needs a push to be ready to run - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40931 (10Mark Holmquist) [20:28:45] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Revert "Maintenance for EducationProgram extension."" [mediawiki/extensions/EducationProgram] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27450 [20:28:46] <wikibugs> 03(ASSIGNED) Parsoid Jenkins job needs a push to be ready to run - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40931 +comment (10Mark Holmquist) [20:28:46] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Hoo man; "(bug 7851) Added AJAX patrolling (mediawiki.page.patrol.ajax)" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26440 [20:28:56] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/EducationProgram] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27450 [20:29:04] * marktraceur makes changes in ten bugs at once, it's always amusing [20:29:04] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Wikipedia sends desktop site to Boot2Gecko (Firefox OS) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40919 +comment (10Krinkle) [20:29:15] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Re-apply fixes by Siebrand" [mediawiki/extensions/EducationProgram] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27451 [20:29:42] <gerrit-wm> New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "This still needs to have the comments I made on PS4 of the original commit addressed." [mediawiki/extensions/EducationProgram] (master); V: 0 C: -2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27451 [20:30:03] <gerrit-wm> New review: Hoo man; "Addressed Matmarex's comments, rebased" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26440 [20:31:08] <Krinkle> hoo: explain "we can't remove two instances of it using " [20:31:17] <Krinkle> hoo: there will be only 1 per instance, and it removes itself [20:31:22] <Krinkle> if there are 2 the script will run twice as well [20:31:50] <hoo> Krinkle: That's not true, I don't add the spinner to this, but to ALL patrollinks on page [20:32:05] <hoo> but only do the actual action once [20:32:28] <Krinkle> then that's a problem, also [20:32:30] <MatmaRex> i was just going to comment [20:32:34] <MatmaRex> this kinda makes sense, [20:32:40] <MatmaRex> but maybe it shouldnt be added to all (both)? [20:32:48] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Mdale; "bug 39869; Initial patch set for mp4 support" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25473 [20:32:51] <Krinkle> if there are 2 links (which there are for new pages), and click one, the other shouldn't change at all [20:32:58] <Krinkle> it should however be removed afterwards if it was successful [20:33:02] <Krinkle> either way, it doesn't matter [20:33:04] <hoo> $( '.patrollink a' ).after( $spinner ); << that's what it basically does [20:33:09] <MatmaRex> also, i dont think you prevent the user from sending multiple requests, adding a spinner with each click on the link? [20:33:15] <Krinkle> hoo: that's even worse [20:33:28] <Krinkle> hoo: that's is bad in soo many ways [20:33:42] <Krinkle> that will move 1 spinner across the page N times and leave it with the last one [20:33:43] <hoo> Krinkle: Orly? It was your suggestion to use after :P [20:33:47] <Krinkle> it is a reference [20:33:57] <Krinkle> Yes, but not to add it to all of them [20:34:24] <hoo> I thought that was obvious, as both links do the same [20:35:08] <hoo> If you consider that better, I can use $( this ).after to add the spinner [20:35:10] <Krinkle> it should have a correct this-context, so it is probably easy to fix it [20:35:11] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Allow for customizable URL path-based access to MobileFrontend view - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35178 +comment (10Brion Vibber) [20:35:13] <Krinkle> $(this).after [20:35:18] <Krinkle> exactly :) [20:35:22] <hoo> but I'd still remove all patrollinks on page afterwards [20:35:28] <Krinkle> Yep [20:35:37] <hoo> Ok :) [20:38:52] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Mobile redirect strips https - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35215 +comment (10Brion Vibber) [20:38:54] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Can't change E-Mail address in bugzilla.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40625 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [20:40:46] <Krinkle> hoo: be sure to adjust the .hide() call the same way [20:40:55] <wikibugs> 04(REOPENED) add a custom field "commit in gerrit" in bugzilla ui. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39399 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [20:40:58] <Krinkle> I'd combine them; $(this).hide().after( .. ) [20:42:15] <wikibugs> 03(mod) add a custom field "commit in gerrit" in bugzilla ui. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39399 +comment (10Krinkle) [20:42:15] <wikibugs> 03(mod) HipHop issues (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40926 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [20:42:15] <hoo> Krinkle: Already did, I'm already on testing... I have to add a sleep to the API, my test system is so fast, that I almost can't see what happens :P [20:42:51] <sumanah> hoo: ha! [20:43:03] <hoo> sumanah: hu? [20:43:34] <sumanah> hoo: I was mirthful re: your "too fast computer" situation [20:44:05] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Mobile browser autodetection doesn't work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36894 +comment (10Brion Vibber) [20:44:43] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Mobile redirect strips https - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35215 +comment (10Krinkle) [20:46:47] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) [beta] Make the back option click area cell wide - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38105 +comment (10Brion Vibber) [20:46:53] <wikibugs> 03(mod) HipHop issues (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40926 +comment (10Krinkle) [20:48:33] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Mobile redirect strips https - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35215 +comment (10Arthur Richards) [20:49:15] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Parsoid Jenkins job needs a push to be ready to run - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40931 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [20:49:24] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Mobile redirect strips https - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35215 +comment (10Brion Vibber) [20:50:09] <wikibugs> 03(WONTFIX) Allow for customizable URL path-based access to MobileFrontend view - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35178 +comment (10Arthur Richards) [20:51:00] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Parsoid: round-trip templates / extensions etc in category link sort keys - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40404 +comment (10Mark Holmquist) [20:51:13] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Hoo man; "(bug 7851) Added AJAX patrolling (mediawiki.page.patrol.ajax)" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26440 [20:51:22] <hoo> Krinkle: All adressed and tested :) [20:51:27] <Krinkle> Thanks [20:53:26] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Redirect causing problems for domains that do not have .m (e.g. www.wikipedia.org) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40687 summary; +comment (10Krinkle) [20:53:59] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Mobile browser autodetection doesn't work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36894 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [20:54:11] <hoo> sumanah: I should push that sleep to gerrit and remove it in a few months... people will finally notice a performance improvement within MediaWiki :D [20:54:12] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Redirect causing problems for domains that do not have .m (e.g. www.* portals) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40687 summary (10Krinkle) [20:54:17] <sumanah> HA [20:55:09] <Krinkle> andre__: I believe there are too many fields in bugzilla tickets. What's your take on that? [20:55:48] <Krinkle> that is fields related to progress of a bug [20:55:55] <Krinkle> status (unconfirmed, new(=confirmed?), assigned), priority, severity, milestone [20:56:05] <Krinkle> status/priority/severity/milestone [20:56:49] <andre__> Krinkle: I agree that the UI should be kept easy, but in some cases the advantage outweigh the UI clutter. Like immediately seeing that there's some related code in Gerrit, and where. [20:56:59] <Krinkle> some users consider milestone=Future to mean status=accepted, which makes sense, but there is too many ways to indicate it. [20:57:19] <andre__> I agree with that. Plus Priority and Target Milestone somehow have a similar meaning. [20:57:19] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Redirect causing problems for domains that do not have .m (e.g. www.* portals) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40687 +comment (10Arthur Richards) [20:57:30] <Krinkle> andre__: indeed [20:58:47] <andre__> Krinkle: I'm wondering when a field is really relevant, like how often it's used. I know the numbers for Webbrowser and Platform. [20:59:04] <andre__> (and Platform should really be in the OS dropdown, I don't get why there is a separate field.) [20:59:07] <Krinkle> I've been wanting to disable those 2 for a long time [20:59:10] <Krinkle> those 3 [20:59:38] <Krinkle> we don't query for them, and when it is relevant it should be in the general story line already. [20:59:49] <Krinkle> just like any other reproduction steps [20:59:53] <Krinkle> (like URL) [21:00:01] <andre__> Having structured data fields instead of freetext can be fine, if there is a real need. I just don't know if there is (yet). :) [21:00:06] <hoo> sumanah: That reminds me of this bug http://bugs.python.org/issue9075 that was in Python for years :P [21:00:09] <andre__> like queryability, yes [21:00:28] <gerrit-wm> New review: Jorm; "This change should be abandoned. Link underlining - or the ability to turn it on - is fairly import..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27201 [21:00:53] <Krinkle> yeah, but some things aren't useful for queries. I mean, we aren't maintaining "HP computers" or "Chrome compatibility" (yes to the latter, but not as a standalone task or reponsibility for someone) [21:00:53] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Display the categories - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22660 +comment (10Brion Vibber) [21:01:22] <Krinkle> beware though, I'm a github freak, I basically want to get rid of every field not present on a github issue (except for a few exceptions). [21:03:13] <wikibugs> 14(DUP) Support switching content language variants - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38101 +comment (10Brion Vibber) [21:03:14] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Support language variants (different language interfaces - same wikipedia) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/21806 +comment (10Brion Vibber) [21:04:38] <andre__> Krinkle: yeah, I might like structured data a bit more than you, because I love to query for weird stuff :P [21:05:20] <Krinkle> andre__: oh, I like queries a lot. I've been dubbed querymaster under tech savvy users on-wiki (I maintain lots of query tools, mostly for stuff not queriable in the API without slow queries) [21:05:29] <Krinkle> trying to add structure to unstructured data [21:05:31] <andre__> oh good, I'll get back to you then :) [21:06:35] <Krinkle> there's just a few fields currently unused or badly uses making it harder to query bugs. By having less overlap in fields, it'll be easier to find what we need [21:06:50] <Krinkle> of course it isn't require to reduce fields to undo the overlap currently in place [21:07:05] <Krinkle> proper documentation can do that [21:10:54] <Krinkle> andre__: one last thing (for now): https://toolserver.org/~krinkle/wmfBugZillaPortal/ (its a little portal I created a while ago, as of recently also in version control) [21:11:16] <gerrit-wm> New review: Martineznovo; "Jorm, feel free to discuss/comment on https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Core_user_..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27201 [21:13:31] <wikibugs> 03(mod) add a custom field "commit in gerrit" in bugzilla ui. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39399 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [21:13:43] <gerrit-wm> New review: Krinkle; "Note though that removing this preference will not force-remove the underline. The default value (wi..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27201 [21:14:50] <andre__> Krinkle: I agree there is quite some overlap and that's something to analyze and improve. Thanks for the link, I knew before, and I like it :) [21:14:51] <gerrit-wm> New review: Siebrand; "Now you've wasted close to 3 hours of my time. Have fun." [mediawiki/extensions/EducationProgram] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27450 [21:14:52] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Parent5446; "Changed temporary system to use tokens." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27472 [21:15:07] <Krinkle> andre__: thanks [21:15:36] <Krinkle> andre__: so yeah, we should have 1 way of indicating a state, and if that leaves room to repurpose other fields: that's cool. If they end up no longer needed, then that's also cool. [21:17:17] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Translatable page header is at the bottom of the page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40694 +comment (10Nemo_bis) [21:18:34] <wikibugs> 03(mod) HipHop issues (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40926 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [21:18:57] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Inez; "No longer create zero-length text nodes" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/21396 [21:19:04] <gerrit-wm> New review: Hoo man; "Still I think that should be removed, as having revisions hidden in both ways can result in unexpect..." [mediawiki/extensions/Oversight] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/18229 [21:19:04] <andre__> I'll add some entries to my todo list, good points. [21:20:48] <gerrit-wm> New review: Aaron Schulz; "Why not just rename the old table away? It should probably not be DROPed/TRUNCATEd." [mediawiki/extensions/Oversight] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/18229 [21:22:05] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: Bsitu; [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27403 [21:22:58] <wikibugs> 03(mod) PageTriage Undefined index: user_name - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39108 (10bsitu) [21:24:03] <sumanah> andre__: hey, can I grab you in 40 min to talk about release stuff? [21:24:39] <gerrit-wm> New review: Catrope; "PS2 is a rebase" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/21396 [21:25:26] <wikibugs> 03(mod) add a custom field "commit in gerrit" in bugzilla ui. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39399 +comment (10Krinkle) [21:26:07] <gerrit-wm> New review: Hoo man; "Table rename isn't in the SQL standard and I doubt we have a function for that... this would make th..." [mediawiki/extensions/Oversight] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/18229 [21:26:41] <andre__> sumanah: oy, works! [21:27:43] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Inez; "Created simple debug tool - that compares data between DOM and Model - very useful while working on SurfaceObserver and text insertion stuff." [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27473 [21:28:51] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: Catrope; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27473 [21:29:01] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Redirect causing problems for domains that do not have .m (e.g. www.* portals) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40687 +comment (10Krinkle) [21:32:19] <gerrit-wm> New review: Krinkle; "And besides, I estimate half the internet doesn't underline idle links. If that is an accessibility ..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27201 [21:37:43] <sumanah> andre__: is that a yes, no, or ask later? :) [21:37:53] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: MarkTraceur; "(bug 27316) Add option for (en|dis)abling multiple-file uploads" [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9273 [21:42:23] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: MarkTraceur; "(bug 27316) Add option for (en|dis)abling multiple-file uploads" [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9273 [21:42:40] <gerrit-wm> New review: MarkTraceur; "Hopefully that addresses your concerns, both of you!" [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9273 [21:46:23] <Krenair> Krinkle, "What's wrong with an array literal?" [21:46:46] <Krinkle> Krenair: array( 'key' => value, 'key' => value ) [21:46:53] <Krinkle> instead of $foo $foo $foo $foo $foo $foo [21:47:04] <Krenair> Do you mean I should be doing $insertLogData = array( 'log_type' => 'suppress', 'log_action' => 'revision' ); [21:47:05] <Krenair> ? [21:47:10] <Krinkle> sure [21:47:18] <Krinkle> one property be line, of course [21:47:20] <Krinkle> per* [21:47:36] <Krenair> I see [21:48:56] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Catrope; "No longer create zero-length text nodes" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/21396 [21:50:42] <gerrit-wm> New review: Catrope; "Inez says this can be merged now as far as he's concerned" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/21396 [21:50:50] <andre__> sumanah, yes [21:50:59] <andre__> yes it's a yes. [21:52:51] <Krenair> Krinkle, as for the imported from OS note, I'm not sure if it should be included or not. [21:52:57] <gerrit-wm> New review: Aaron Schulz; "I'd wontfix it for now (unless there is a good use case) for > 5gb files (MediaWiki will struggle to..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22038 [21:54:20] <gerrit-wm> Change abandoned: Alex Monk; "(no reason)" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22038 [21:55:11] <wikibugs> 03(WONTFIX) FileBackend.php has 1 GB limit, despite $wgMaxUploadSize - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38719 (10Krenair) [21:59:44] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Christian; "Added reversed boolean for translateOffset" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27435 [22:01:33] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: Catrope; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27435 [22:03:07] <andre__> sumanah: ping me when you're ready for a hangout [22:05:41] <sumanah> ok andre__! coming soon [22:05:50] <Brooke> Hi andre__. [22:06:00] <andre__> hi Brooke! [22:06:24] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "[FileBackend] Added tiny getContainerPath() convenience function." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27474 [22:06:33] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Catrope; "Add setDOMAttributes()" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26919 [22:07:07] <gerrit-wm> New review: Catrope; "PS2 handles undefined and null, and adds a test for setDOMAttributes() as well as getDOMAttributes()" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26919 [22:10:23] <sumanah> andre__: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_1.21/Roadmap [22:10:33] <gerrit-wm> New review: Aaron Schulz; "wip" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27474 [22:10:38] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Catrope; "Add setDOMAttributes()" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26919 [22:11:00] <gerrit-wm> New review: Catrope; "PS3 adds test descriptions and adds a test for null/undefined behavior" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26919 [22:11:53] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "[FileBackend] Added tiny getContainerStoragePath() convenience function." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27474 [22:12:05] <gerrit-wm> New review: Aaron Schulz; "Done." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27474 [22:15:52] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) /open pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40934 normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (andy) [22:16:02] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) download interrupted - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40935 normal; Datasets: General/Unknown; (jeanpaulscalabrini) [22:17:11] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Platonides; "Add wlmsurvey" [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27475 [22:18:54] <sumanah> Thanks andre__ [22:19:02] <andre__> thank you too :) [22:21:05] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Description in the language of the project - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40918 +comment (10Ralf Schmitt) [22:21:35] <sumanah> Nikerabbit: ping re https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Gerrit_project_ownership - you can add your note at the bottom [22:22:19] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Implement <wiki domain>/open pages (e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/open) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40934 normal->15enhancement; summary (10Krinkle) [22:22:24] <wikibugs> 03(mod) ContentHandler renders Scribunto nonoperational - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40908 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [22:23:07] <wikibugs> 03(mod) ContentHandler renders Scribunto nonoperational - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40908 +code-update-regression (10Andre Klapper) [22:24:54] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Regression: ContentHandler prevents action=edit append to blank page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40930 +code-update-regression (10Andre Klapper) [22:25:50] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Updater should not add contenthandler stuff to the DB if $wgContentHandlerUseDB is disabled. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40854 +performance (10Andre Klapper) [22:29:59] <wikibugs> 03(mod) ContentHandler renders Scribunto nonoperational - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40908 +comment (10Victor Vasiliev) [22:30:04] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Inline styles in wikitext cause problems on mobile site and app - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35704 normal->15enhancement (10Jon) [22:32:01] <wikibugs> 03(mod) UploadBase: Fatal error: Call to a member function getName() on a non-object - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39195 +comment (10Aaron Schulz) [22:32:42] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Catrope; "Add ve.getOpeningHtmlTag()" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26921 [22:33:35] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Implement <wiki domain>/open pages (e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/open) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40934 +comment (10Krinkle) [22:33:47] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Enable translation import on wikis with Translate extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40341 +comment (10Siebrand) [22:34:00] <gerrit-wm> New review: Catrope; "Patchset 2:" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26921 [22:34:02] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Enable translation import on wikis with Translate extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40341 (10Siebrand) [22:34:19] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Enable translation import on wikis with Translate extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40341 (10Siebrand) [22:35:42] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Inline Styles: Portal pages need to be redesigned for mobile - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30887 +comment (10Krinkle) [22:35:44] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Reformatting of Portals - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22187 (10Krinkle) [22:35:44] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Inline styles in wikitext cause problems on mobile site and app - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35704 (10Krinkle) [22:36:59] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Inline styles in wikitext cause problems on mobile site and app (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35704 +tracking; summary (10Krinkle) [22:37:00] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Inline styles: Wikipedia:Contact us page is horribly formatted - new contact/feedback page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31591 (10Krinkle) [22:37:02] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Inline Styles: References section is poorly formatted - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34878 (10Krinkle) [22:37:03] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Inline styles: Mobile Frontend doesn't display multiple horizontal images well - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36030 (10Krinkle) [22:37:05] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Inline Styles: Template:Track_listing is unreadable on mobile view - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36076 (10Krinkle) [22:42:50] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) Merge custom "Mobile Platform" field into default "OS" field - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40936 normal; Wikimedia: Bugzilla; (aklapper) [22:43:59] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Implement <wiki domain>/open pages (e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/open) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40934 +comment (10Tom Morris) [22:45:20] <Brooke> What's with the inline styling bugs. [22:45:37] <Brooke> Just prefixing? [22:46:38] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Wikitech's MediaWiki installation should be updated - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37317 +comment (10Daniel Zahn) [22:49:44] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Yaron Koren; "Added missing comma" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27477 [22:50:09] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: Yaron Koren; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27477 [22:51:04] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Krinkle; "New annotation API: Annotation and AnnotationRegistry classes" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25963 [22:51:15] <andre__> Nikerabbit: I stand corrected. Graphs _are_ possible per extension if you use https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/chart.cgi [22:55:13] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Implement <wiki domain>/open pages (e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/open) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40934 +comment (10Andy Mabbett) [22:56:31] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Implement <wiki domain>/open pages (e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/open) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40934 +comment (10Andy Mabbett) [22:56:47] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Brion VIBBER; "Initial stab at responsive images for screen densities." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24115 [22:58:58] <gerrit-wm> New review: Brion VIBBER; "Patch set 15:" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24115 [23:06:26] <gerrit-wm> New review: Brion VIBBER; "Also needs a rebase & merge. Whee! grrr" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24115 [23:08:34] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Special:FeedbackDashboard 'hide' function should be extended to all autoconfirmed editors - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40511 +comment (10Steven Walling) [23:15:33] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "Avoid fatals for bad filenames given for chunk uploads." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27483 [23:15:49] <wikibugs> 03(mod) UploadBase: Fatal error: Call to a member function getName() on a non-object - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39195 +comment (10Aaron Schulz) [23:28:28] <Croud> Hallo. Ich hoffe, dass ich mein Anliegen auf Deutsch vorbringen kann. Ich würde gerne auf meiner Wiki-Hauptseite an einer bestimmten Stelle eine News-Sektion machen. Sie soll der auf http://Wiki.en.grepolis.com (unter dem "Index" ähneln. Wie mache ich das genau? [23:30:12] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Updates to ISO-codes for ku family dialects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37310 +comment (10Robin Pepermans (SPQRobin)) [23:30:16] <marktraceur> Croud: Most people in here are English speakers....um....oh, gwicke, mind at least explaining where Croud can find help? :) [23:30:53] <TimStarling> it's pretty late in germany [23:31:09] <gwicke> Croud: ich würde den Quelltext der Seite genauer ansehen [23:31:16] * hoo is around... [23:31:47] <hoo> The Template used is this: http://wiki.en.grepolis.com/wiki/Template:Announcements [23:32:02] <marktraceur> hoo: Are you German, too? Maybe I just don't know where everyone is from :) [23:32:12] <hoo> * Die benutzte Vorlage ist: http://wiki.en.grepolis.com/wiki/Template:Announcements [23:32:31] <Croud> Habe ich. Das einzige, was diese "dynamische" Anzeige bewirken kann, ist doch diese bestimmte Class, oder? [23:32:38] <hoo> Croud: Und das JavaScript, was für den Wechsel sorgt ist hier drin: http://wiki.en.grepolis.com/wiki/Global.js [23:33:06] <hoo> marktraceur: Apparently I am, yes :D [23:33:30] <marktraceur> hoo: It's not like you have an accent on IRC :P [23:34:01] * Krinkle also speaks German, though not native. [23:34:11] <Krinkle> I can almost see the german border from here [23:35:03] * marktraceur wonders if that makes Krinkle the Sarah Palin of Europe...no, too mean [23:35:15] <Krinkle> grmpf [23:35:35] <Krinkle> No, I do know where Germany is, and that it is a country in Europe. [23:36:40] <Krinkle> marktraceur: http://goo.gl/maps/PE9tJ [23:36:52] <Krinkle> the edge of my home town is the border of Germany [23:37:03] <Croud> Sorry, tab has reloaded. [23:37:22] <marktraceur> Krinkle: Cool! :) [23:37:25] <hoo> Croud: http://wiki.en.grepolis.com/wiki/Global.js That's the JS which does all the magic ;) [23:38:01] <Croud> Die Seite im Wiki, die du mir da geschickt hast, was ist das? Legt die die Klassen fest? [23:38:08] <Krinkle> Croud: you have some very old code in MediaWiki:Common.js that can cause all kinds of problems [23:38:18] <hoo> Krinkle: It's not his wiki [23:38:21] <Krinkle> It breaks jquery and loads another copy [23:38:29] <Krinkle> hoo: aha [23:38:30] <hoo> he only wants the function extracted out of it [23:38:43] <Krinkle> hoo: interesting though, this wiki stores js in the main namespace? [23:38:50] * Krinkle closes tab [23:38:55] <hoo> But with edit=sysop... [23:39:02] <Krinkle> it better [23:39:11] <hoo> At least WMF isn't the only places with broken JS [23:39:20] <hoo> and the private wikis I used to take care :P [23:39:30] <marktraceur> hoo: No, but we're the best at broken JS at least :P [23:39:34] <hoo> Croud: http://wiki.en.grepolis.com/index.php?title=Global.js&action=edit Kennst du dich mit JavaScript aus? [23:40:14] <RoanKattouw> Krinkle: Looks like it's drawing the municipality borders instead, isn't Glanerbrug a separate town? [23:40:18] <Croud> Genau das ist das Problem: eben nicht. :( [23:40:36] <hoo> marktraceur: Indeed, we got a whole lot of experts around for that... there are hardly people around who can break more with a single c&p than WMF admins in small projects :P [23:41:04] <Krinkle> RoanKattouw: Well, I'm not sure what the official term is, afaic it is a neighbourhood [23:41:15] <Krinkle> it does have one of those blue signs though on the way thre [23:41:23] <Krinkle> RoanKattouw: but it says "gemeente Enschede" [23:41:28] <RoanKattouw> Right [23:41:29] <Krinkle> common major [23:41:31] <hoo> Croud: Ich hab den Code jetzt nicht ausfürhlich durchgesehen und hab das auch so spät nicht mehr vor... wenn du in ans Ende der MediaWiki:common.js einfügst, sollte es funktioneren [23:41:46] <Krinkle> so its just a separate town, but same district [23:41:50] <hoo> wenn dannach was nicht mehr tut, einfach revertieren und nochmal herkommen [23:42:00] <hoo> revertieren = zurücksetzen [23:42:22] <RoanKattouw> Krinkle: Right, that's because .nl has mayors for municipalities rather than for cities [23:42:26] <Krinkle> RoanKattouw: what would be the English translation of gemeente? municipality? [23:42:28] <RoanKattouw> Yes [23:42:54] <Krinkle> like governmental region as supposed to communal regian. [23:42:57] <Krinkle> okay [23:43:00] <RoanKattouw> The US has counties, but those are slightly different, because US cities are actual entities with a city council and a mayor and stuff [23:43:22] <RoanKattouw> Whereas in NL cities generally don't have their own government [23:43:25] <Krinkle> Aren't US counties more like provinces in the Netherlands? [23:43:38] <RoanKattouw> Well, kind of [23:43:45] <RoanKattouw> I mean they're generally smaller [23:44:03] <Krinkle> Dutch towns within a municipality are too small to be significant in anyway in US terms [23:44:07] <RoanKattouw> They're somewhere between a municipality and a province [23:44:11] <Krinkle> they're just a block in US terms :P [23:44:29] <RoanKattouw> And a state is somewhere between a province and a country, really :) [23:44:31] <Krinkle> or a set of blocks :D [23:44:47] <Krinkle> with a church and a main street in the middle [23:44:47] <RoanKattouw> I mean I live in a state that has a larger population than most countries in Europe [23:44:56] <Krinkle> Yeah [23:45:27] <marktraceur> var Country = function () { var State = function () { var County = function () { var City = function () {} } } }; [23:45:28] <RoanKattouw> And the state levies income tax, issues my driver's license, etc. [23:45:32] <AaronSchulz> RoanKattouw: yep, *that* state [23:45:56] <Croud> hoo: Vielen Dank für deine Hilfe! [23:46:14] <hoo> Funktioniert's? [23:46:15] <AaronSchulz> RoanKattouw: I don't miss city income tax! [23:46:23] <Krinkle> RoanKattouw: interestingly though, we also use "state" (de Staat, het Rijk). Licenses/passports are issues by the municipality though. [23:46:24] <RoanKattouw> Your hometown in OH had that?! [23:46:44] <marktraceur> Counties: Good for maintaining schools, rood systems, and general infrastructure, shitty for everything else. [23:46:44] <AaronSchulz> yep [23:46:57] <RoanKattouw> Krinkle: They're not, really. They're distributed via city halls but they're produced at a central location and authorized by the national govt [23:47:08] <Krinkle> aha [23:47:29] <Croud> Ich werde das morgen mal ausprobieren, weil ich gerade nur mit Mobilgerät online bin. [23:47:55] <hoo> Croud: Ok... hier findet man oft jemand, der helfen kann... bin auch oft da ;) [23:48:44] <RoanKattouw> For instance, NL driver's licenses look the same no matter where you live, but a CA license looks different than an NY license, has a different driving test administered by a different authority, etc. [23:49:04] <marktraceur> With different laws, often [23:49:07] <RoanKattouw> Yeah [23:49:21] <ori-l> the NY license test is whether or not you can survive several hours at the brooklyn DMV [23:49:32] <marktraceur> I still say some of the right answers on the CA test are wrong on the MN test [23:49:34] <RoanKattouw> States aren't separate countries but they're sometimes surprisingly close [23:50:10] <RoanKattouw> Voting rights, too [23:50:24] <RoanKattouw> In CA, people who are in prison, for whatever reason, can't vote [23:50:47] <RoanKattouw> In some states, people convicted of a felony can't vote for some time even after they get out of prison, and in some cases permanently lose the right to vote [23:51:13] <marktraceur> RoanKattouw: I can't remember off the top of my head, but I want to say the federal government has some say in that. [23:52:33] <ori-l> RoanKattouw: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_Jim_Crow <-- good book on this topic [23:54:17] <AaronSchulz> RoanKattouw: come to think of it, I don't miss county taxes either ;) [23:54:41] <RoanKattouw> Whereas in Vermont, even convicted murderers can vote, the only crime you lose the right to vote for is election fraud :) [23:54:47] <White|Food> Hi everybody. :)) [23:54:55] <RoanKattouw> AaronSchulz: Hey well here we have county/city sales tax :) [23:55:05] <saper> oh felony disenfranchisement [23:56:00] <AaronSchulz> RoanKattouw: sales, for sure [23:56:12] <AaronSchulz> but I don't have to file paperwork for that :D [23:56:14] <marktraceur> White|Food: Ho hi! [23:56:23] <White|Food> Hi, marktraceur! [23:56:52] <marktraceur> RoanKattouw: So begins a long-running joke: "At least you can still vote in Vermont" [23:57:09] <marktraceur> White|Food: How's it going? [23:58:12] <wikibugs> 03(mod) schema update doesn't work for postgresql - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40891 +comment (10Tim Landscheidt) [23:58:18] <saper> Maine as well [23:58:22] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Bsitu; "(bug 40511) Extend 'hide' function for autoconfirmed editors" [mediawiki/extensions/MoodBar] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27486 [23:59:35] <White|Food> marktraceur: Good, good, you?