[00:08:27] New patchset: Siebrand; "Process message changes for all extensions" [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28965 [00:08:27] New patchset: Siebrand; "Split off threads for MediaWiki core and branch exports" [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28966 [00:09:03] Change merged: Siebrand; [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28965 [00:09:11] Change merged: Siebrand; [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28966 [00:09:42] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28960 [00:09:46] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/core] (REL1_20) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28961 [00:09:52] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/core] (REL1_19) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28962 [00:09:54] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/core] (REL1_18) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28963 [00:11:45] 03(NEW) L10n-bot stray patch set - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41264 normal; Wikimedia: Git/Gerrit; (s.mazeland) [00:15:53] Eh? PHP Fatal error: Cannot break/continue 2 levels in /www/translatewiki.net/w/maintenance/runJobs.php on line 94 [00:16:24] TimStarling: Does the above fatal in runJobs.php make sense you? [00:16:36] TimStarling: Seen it a few times in twn. [00:18:07] hexmode: Please make sure that the L10n updates are part of 1.20. They're not in RC2 yet. [00:18:49] siebrand: ok... easy way to find the changes to merge? [00:19:14] hexmode: It's a patch set that I merged on REL1_20 already. [00:19:45] it is curious [00:20:30] hexmode: latest two patch sets on https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/status:merged+project:mediawiki/core+branch:REL1_20,n,z [00:23:06] New patchset: MarkAHershberger; "Backport to 1.19 so MobileFrontend can work" [mediawiki/core] (REL1_19) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28967 [00:23:06] New patchset: MarkAHershberger; "backport Language::fetchLanguageNames and Language::fetchLanguageName from 1.20 so that latest MobileFrontend works." [mediawiki/core] (REL1_19) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28968 [00:25:00] siebrand: it's from b567f3602e8bac048c9dce0f359ef0131d947c28 [00:28:04] hmm, if someone destroys the topic of a commit with an amendment, how do you find out what it was? [00:31:19] the topic is not in the notification mails [00:31:45] New patchset: Siebrand; "Add GENDER support and split date and time." [mediawiki/extensions/ApprovedRevs] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28969 [00:31:59] (without every having using git) can you bring up the orginal patchsets in the git commandline thingy? [00:34:09] New patchset: Siebrand; "Remove punctuation from description message for consistency" [mediawiki/extensions/Carp] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28970 [00:38:30] 14(DUP) Add ability to log attempted title creations that were disallowed due to a title blacklist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41263 +comment (10Krenair) [00:38:30] 03(mod) Log of title blacklist hits - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/21206 +comment (10Krenair) [00:41:24] 03(mod) TitleBlacklist user creation blocked message not parsed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41242 summary (10Krenair) [00:45:09] siebrand: uploaded new tarball [01:00:24] New patchset: Tim Starling; "Document what OutputPage::setProperty() is for" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28971 [01:01:37] 03(mod) Log spam blacklist hits - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/1542 +easy; +comment (10MZMcBride) [01:02:34] 03(mod) Log of title blacklist hits - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/21206 +easy; +comment (10MZMcBride) [01:05:15] New patchset: Siebrand; "Update export paths and remove superfluous settings" [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28972 [01:21:20] New review: Spage; "I get PHP warnings on the COOKIE access. And if I reload in Firefox, the page redisplays the checkbox." [mediawiki/extensions/PostEdit] (master); V: -1 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28804 [01:36:09] New patchset: Siebrand; "Add GENDER support in messaging." [mediawiki/extensions/OnlineStatusBar] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29100 [01:36:56] New review: Siebrand; "Added Krinkle for review/tips on GENDER in JS." [mediawiki/extensions/OnlineStatusBar] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29100 [01:45:37] New patchset: Siebrand; "Add plural for 'articlefeedback-report-ratings'" [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedback] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29177 [01:48:41] New review: Spage; "Nice cleanup. FWIW JSHint complains, but I think it's fine." [mediawiki/extensions/PostEdit] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28907 [01:54:40] New patchset: Siebrand; "Tweak some messages." [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29246 [01:54:54] New review: Siebrand; "Per Niklas in https://translatewiki.net/wiki/Thread:Support/About_MediaWiki:Mwe-upwiz-error-too-shor..." [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29246 [02:02:26] New patchset: Siebrand; "Update check blacklist with message with smiley" [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29265 [02:02:40] Change merged: Siebrand; [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29265 [02:14:16] New patchset: Siebrand; "(bug 34586) Change allowed feedback length from 140 to 255" [mediawiki/extensions/MoodBar] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/21034 [02:14:16] Hi. I'm bureaucrat and administrator of a Wikimedia based site, and I'm creating and editing some articles. I want to create some links with replace title (when the mouse arrow is over the link, it will show a brief description). This link is internal (another article). I tried "[[My_another_article]]", but it doesn't work. [02:14:44] I, then, tried "The another article title", and this is interpreted as wikitext [02:14:52] How can I add more attributes at a Wiki internal link? [02:14:59] (And external too, if possible) [02:15:53] maybe you want something like popups? [02:16:10] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Tools/Navigation_popups [02:17:29] 22 02:15:52 < jeremyb> maybe you want something like popups? [02:17:29] 22 02:16:10 < jeremyb> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Tools/Navigation_popups [02:18:43] New patchset: Siebrand; "More GENDER for 'pagetriage-personal-default-note'" [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29266 [02:19:31] Sorry, my connection is instable [02:20:31] i see that [02:22:02] New patchset: Siebrand; "Revert "Small performance improvement"" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29267 [02:22:32] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29267 [02:25:28] 03(NEW) HTTP referer is sent from secure connection - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41265 normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (M8R-udfkkf) [02:26:26] diegojsRW: did you see what i said above? [02:27:04] "(00:25:56) jeremyb: diegojsRW: please stay in #mediawiki" This? [02:27:10] no [02:27:18] 22 02:17:25 < jeremyb> 22 02:15:52 < jeremyb> maybe you want something like popups? [02:27:19] 22 02:17:25 < jeremyb> 22 02:16:10 < jeremyb> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Tools/Navigation_popups [02:28:01] No. What I want is, I have a link and I want to add a attribute on this link [02:28:02] This attribute is "title" [02:29:28] * jeremyb lets someone else answer... [02:31:36] When the user let the arrow over the link, it will show a gray box (at Seven) or a yellow box (at XP) with the text inside "title" attribute [02:31:57] sure, we understand [02:32:48] A thing like this: http://pageofwords.com/blog/content/binary/WindowsLiveWriter/WhatisencodingCrosssitescriptingandtheAn_128B5/image_20.png [02:32:48] 14(INVALID) HTTP referer is sent from secure connection - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41265 +comment (10Smallman) [02:33:21] diegojsRW: yessssssss, we get it! [02:33:33] no need to make more screenshots [02:33:39] Ok [02:34:04] just be patient [02:39:23] 03(mod) Give "Your edit has been saved" confirmation messages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/16066 +comment (10Siebrand) [02:41:37] 03(mod) Give "Your edit has been saved" confirmation messages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/16066 +comment (10Siebrand) [03:00:27] New patchset: Adamw; "BannerChooser class to manage CentralNotice allocation" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29268 [03:00:47] Hey Nikerabbit, in a code review a while back, you encouraged me to use   as opposed to  , but i can't remember the reason. What's the reason? (If anyone else knows, please jump in.) [03:05:03] And how about template parameter enumeration? E.g.: suppose I have a template and I have to put his arguments in a list: {{my-template|Argument 1|Argument 2|Argument 3|....|Argument N}}, giving: "*Argument 1
*Argument 2...*Argument N" [03:05:10] New patchset: Adamw; "BannerChooser class to manage CentralNotice allocation" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29268 [03:06:12] To print a parameter, I know it is "{{{1}}}", or "{{{2}}}", for example. And to enumerate it? [03:28:57] 03(mod) Add ability to have simple variants that dont require a whole banner to be created - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/26593 +comment (10Adam Wight) [03:48:53] New review: Demon; "Rather than putting this file in the actual repo, why not put it in the make-release script? Makes a..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23919 [03:55:45] New patchset: Ori.livneh; "(bug 41232) Prevent re-display of confirmation" [mediawiki/extensions/PostEdit] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28804 [04:37:39] 03(mod) [PostEdit] Popup is displayed again when returning to page after save - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41232 (10Andre Klapper) [04:37:39] 03(mod) [PostEdit] PostEdit doesn't work when saving a redirect page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41253 (10Andre Klapper) [04:37:39] 03(mod) [PostEdit] Invisible element with high z-index accidentally blocks links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41231 (10Andre Klapper) [04:37:40] 03(mod) [Postedit] Popup covers up monobook tabs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41240 (10Andre Klapper) [04:37:40] 03(mod) [PostEdit] / wrong extension registration on Special:Version - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41262 (10Andre Klapper) [04:39:38] 03(mod) Give "Your edit has been saved" confirmation messages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/16066 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [04:51:35] 03(WONTFIX) [Postedit] Popup covers up monobook tabs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41240 +comment (10Steven Walling) [04:55:50] New patchset: Ori.livneh; "(bug 41232) Prevent re-display of confirmation" [mediawiki/extensions/PostEdit] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28804 [04:56:17] New patchset: Ori.livneh; "(bug 41253) Show PostEdit popup when saving redirects" [mediawiki/extensions/PostEdit] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28907 [05:16:20] ori-l-away: first guess is because of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_XML_and_HTML_character_entity_references#Entities_representing_special_characters_in_XHTML [05:16:37] but idk what other context there might be [05:16:44] Nikerabbit: ^ [05:27:00] New patchset: Adamw; "update tests; fix failing tests" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29269 [06:43:12] 03(NEW) Installer defaults to zh language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41266 minor; MediaWiki: Installer; (matthewrbowker.wiki) [06:43:46] New review: jan; "If you do not like extractRequestParams() you could use $this->getParameter()." [mediawiki/extensions/CentralAuth] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28836 [07:09:48] 03(ASSIGNED) "Restore all default settings" should be a button - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/18961 (10Matthew Bowker) [07:10:49] New review: Spage; "This was failing for me because I set $wgLegacyJavaScriptGlobals=false. Comment that and it works. ..." [mediawiki/extensions/PostEdit] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28804 [07:10:49] Change merged: Ori.livneh; [mediawiki/extensions/PostEdit] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28907 [07:10:49] Change merged: Spage; [mediawiki/extensions/PostEdit] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28804 [07:20:56] New review: Nikerabbit; "Does this script create any tags in the git repositories and can it make extension bundles without c..." [mediawiki/tools/release] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28958 [07:30:25] New patchset: Aude; "various cleanup and updating the code" [mediawiki/extensions/OpenStreetMapSlippyMap] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28667 [07:34:00] is this the correct channel for asking question about wikipedia and its API? [07:34:23] n4h1: Maybe. [07:34:36] haha [07:34:44] !ask | n4h1 [07:34:44] n4h1: Hi, how can we help you? Just ask your question. [07:34:45] I have some questions that I assume are quite simple [07:34:50] ok [07:35:21] I have started to create a parser and I need to parse roughly 25K pages, for the moment I am using HTTP request directly [07:35:32] without the use of any API [07:35:48] and I've noticed that my results now all have 'Our servers are currently busy..' [07:36:04] so I thought that maybe I have gone over the limit of requests [07:36:15] as Im not using any API and wiki wants you to use it [07:36:17] is that correct? [07:36:54] That would be the first question, if my assumptions are correct, then I need to use the API [07:37:14] and I would simply need to use the API for getting the HTML version of the page as I am using an HTML parser I have made [07:37:43] but I havent found any way to get the original HTML [07:38:05] and the only info I have (before parsing) is the URL of that page [07:39:15] New patchset: Spage; "(bug 41262) change extension type to 'Other'" [mediawiki/extensions/PostEdit] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29270 [07:42:21] tale? [07:43:15] 03(mod) [PostEdit] / wrong extension registration on Special:Version - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41262 (10spage) [07:43:34] Change merged: Ori.livneh; [mediawiki/extensions/Vector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28832 [07:44:54] New review: Ori.livneh; "Thanks!" [mediawiki/extensions/PostEdit] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29270 [07:44:54] Change merged: Ori.livneh; [mediawiki/extensions/PostEdit] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29270 [07:52:36] 03(mod) [Postedit] Popup covers up monobook tabs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41240 +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [07:57:16] ori-l: some of the doctypes that mediawiki might output don't include entities other than the bare minimum five included in xml [08:00:14] 03(mod) [Postedit] Popup covers up monobook tabs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41240 +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [08:00:39] New patchset: Hashar; "Document what OutputPage::setProperty() is for" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28971 [08:00:43] 04(REOPENED) [Postedit] Popup covers up monobook tabs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41240 +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [08:01:13] 03(mod) [Postedit] Popup covers up monobook tabs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41240 +comment (10Ori Livneh) [08:03:11] no one? :( [08:03:23] andre__: could you add something to your list of bugmeister things to sort out, about wontfix for WMF vs. wontfix for community ? [08:03:33] andre__: cause i see that problem pop up more and more in WMF developed extensions. [08:04:14] New review: Hashar; "Nice doc. I actually learned something new about the parser :-]" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28971 [08:08:30] I've set up mediawiki with the Math plugin and PdfExport [08:08:47] but the Math formulas aren't being rendered in the pdf [08:10:16] PDFExport may not support it [08:11:51] New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Use mw.config.get instead of accessing property on window" [mediawiki/extensions/PostEdit] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29271 [08:13:11] p858snake|1 could you give me a hand with my problem? [08:16:20] What does Wikipedia use for exporting as PDF? I want to use the same for my own mediawiki installation, Any manual? [08:22:44] 03(FIXED) [PostEdit] / wrong extension registration on Special:Version - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41262 +comment (10[[kgh]]) [08:27:15] New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Fix JS config var access; whitespace; unused globals" [mediawiki/extensions/PostEdit] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29271 [08:27:54] New patchset: Henning Snater; "Removing fixed table layout definition" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29272 [08:36:54] Halp! I can't find $IP/skins/foobar/resources.php anywhere. Do I need to make this php file? This is the tutorial i use: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Skinning/Vector [08:37:50] Nevermind! I found a solution :P [08:37:56] 03(mod) User::edits() and User::incEditCount() should be refactored - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41171 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [08:39:06] I am creating a parser for roughly 30K pages and I am currently using just HTTP requests to the actual URL [08:39:20] but after a while I started to get 'Our servers are currently busy' , so I've assumed I reached the limit and got somehow blocked or something [08:39:25] New patchset: Markus Kroetzsch; "Caching mechanism for property table hashes" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28948 [08:39:28] reading on the net, I have realized that probably wikimedia wants you to use its API. Since I have created an HTML parser, how do I just get the HTML original version of the page using the API? [08:44:16] New review: Spage; "Polished and gleaming" [mediawiki/extensions/PostEdit] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29271 [08:44:16] Change merged: Spage; [mediawiki/extensions/PostEdit] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29271 [08:51:25] Tim-away: we might wanna limit str searches a bit in lua :D https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#Watchdog_templates_with_Lua_searches_183.2C000x_faster [08:53:58] I did say that people would be creative with it [08:54:16] but Lua doesn't get access to text outside the #invoke, you'd have to wrap the whole article in a template invocation [08:54:24] which might annoy the visual editor people slightly [08:55:04] we could have lua modules called from AbuseFilter, I guess [08:59:42] why not just use JS? [08:59:58] especially if the point is merely to present warnings to the person currently editing the article [09:00:18] 03(mod) Review and deploy TimedMediaHandler extension (timed media handler) to Wikimedia wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27699 +comment (10Jan Gerber) [09:00:21] ori-l: wikid77 can be a bit crazy :D [09:00:54] besides, there is a usage for anything :D [09:01:05] invoking whole articles in template invocations would be an interesting hack. write articles in markdown. [09:02:27] Tim-away: for abusefilters would be intesting indeed... [09:03:21] 03(mod) Make MathJax menus translatable [upstream] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35038 +comment (10Siebrand) [09:07:40] ori-l: could you help me? :) [09:08:30] n4h1: You are annoying people by calling them by name. Also, you do not need to repeat your question hourly. [09:08:50] ok tale [09:08:54] n4h1: Just be patient, if someone knows an answer, they will answer you. [09:09:02] I will not call ppl by name, tale [09:09:30] and I'll try to be patient [09:09:36] thanks, tale [09:09:37] New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Update E3Experiments and PostEdit to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29274 [09:09:50] n4h1: Maybe state, that the problem you have is with Wikipedia site, and the API there. [09:10:32] I have been sent here to ask about it [09:10:35] New patchset: Henning Snater; "Removing tabs from templates when adding templates to HtmlTemplateStore" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29275 [09:11:28] New review: Markus Kroetzsch; "I agree with the other reviews. This does not fix the problem at its root." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26343 [09:11:56] n4h1: I just meant, that readers of your question understand, that it is not about general HTML parser construction, but that you want to know how Mediawiki API can be used to get the HTML code. Or whatever. [09:12:10] yeah [09:12:18] but it could also be not related to the not use of the API [09:16:26] 03(mod) Page-top tabs and personal menus may overlap in the Vector skin - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37158 summary; +comment (10Amir E. Aharoni) [09:16:41] Change merged: Ori.livneh; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29274 [09:18:38] lol even using the sandbox I get error [09:18:40] gj [09:19:45] 03(FIXED) $specialPageAliases for Banjar (bjn) project - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37028 +comment (10Amir E. Aharoni) [09:20:08] New patchset: Siebrand; "Revert "Revert "Small performance improvement""" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29276 [09:22:33] New patchset: Nikerabbit; "Filter ignored messages on export" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29277 [09:22:40] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29276 [09:23:47] Change merged: Henning Snater; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28678 [09:24:01] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29277 [09:28:34] 03(NEW) mediawiki.action.edit.preview is not loaded at Commons despite "Use live preview" (wpuselivepreview) is activated in [[Special:Preferences]] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41267 normal; MediaWiki: JavaScript; (rainerrillke) [09:30:05] Change merged: Daniel Werner; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28681 [09:30:25] Change merged: Daniel Werner; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29272 [09:31:58] Change merged: Daniel Werner; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29275 [09:32:48] 03(mod) mediawiki.action.edit.preview is not loaded at Commons despite "Use live preview" (wpuselivepreview) is activated in [[Special:Preferences]] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41267 +comment (10Rainer Rillke @commons.wikimedia) [09:34:21] 03(mod) [REGRESSION] mediawiki.action.edit.preview is not loaded at Commons despite "Use live preview" (wpuselivepreview) is activated in [[Special:Preferences]] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41267 summary (10Rainer Rillke @commons.wikimedia) [09:34:43] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29266 [09:35:11] 03(mod) Temporarily re-enable the new pages patrol to FI-wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41016 (10kimmo.virtanen) [09:36:01] Change merged: Siebrand; [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28972 [09:36:14] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/Carp] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28970 [09:36:35] 03(mod) Renaming the Aramaic (arc) Wikipedia to the Syriac (syc) Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/26725 +comment (10Amir E. Aharoni) [09:38:12] 03(mod) [REGRESSION] mediawiki.action.edit.preview is not loaded at Commons despite "Use live preview" (wpuselivepreview) is activated in [[Special:Preferences]] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41267 +comment (10Rainer Rillke @commons.wikimedia) [09:42:04] 03(FIXED) subtitle menu does not have a scroll bar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39024 (10Jan Gerber) [09:44:30] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/ApprovedRevs] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28969 [09:46:00] New patchset: Daniel Werner; "tests for sorting sitelinks" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28676 [09:49:12] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/Cite] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28936 [09:50:51] New review: Siebrand; "This change seems a bit academic to me. It adds localisation overhead and more lines in Special:Vers..." [mediawiki/extensions/CategoryTree] (master); V: 0 C: -2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26804 [09:51:29] hi all... is there a special page for creatig new pages? [09:51:50] New review: Siebrand; "Please don't +1 your own patch sets. That doesn't make sense if you're the one having made the last ..." [mediawiki/extensions/TranslateSvg] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28939 [09:51:51] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/TranslateSvg] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28939 [09:52:00] i want to have a link on my wiki that when clicked will redirext to a new page ... is that possible?? [09:52:05] any idea guys? [09:52:06] New review: Siebrand; "Please don't +1 your own patch sets. That doesn't make sense if you're the one having made the last ..." [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28938 [09:52:07] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28938 [09:54:12] 03(mod) RTL/bidirectional issues (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/745 (10Amir E. Aharoni) [09:54:14] 03(mod) Page width awkwardness in translation mode for RTL languages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38289 (10Amir E. Aharoni) [09:54:29] New review: Spage; "Most comments adopted, I kept some comments as is. Still works, patch 2 coming." [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28800 [09:54:48] New patchset: Hashar; "[FileBackend] Created README file for the file backend classes." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28606 [09:54:58] New review: Santhosh; "To get Gender working at javascript, we need to add RL dependency mediawiki.jqueryMsg" [mediawiki/extensions/OnlineStatusBar] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29100 [09:55:40] New review: Siebrand; "Based on Santhosh' review" [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedback] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29177 [09:55:50] New patchset: Spage; "track campaign (for AFT Signup CTA)" [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28800 [09:56:31] New patchset: Siebrand; "Add plural for 'articlefeedback-report-ratings'" [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedback] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29177 [09:57:20] seriously? Do they have to spam like this? [09:57:32] New review: Hashar; "I have tweaked the README file to have it parsed by Doxygen and thus included in our FileBackend doc..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28606 [09:58:13] Change merged: Daniel Werner; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28676 [09:58:13] p.s. tale, I believe that no one will ever see my question with all these flooders-bots [09:59:52] New patchset: Siebrand; "Add plural for 'articlefeedback-report-ratings'" [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedback] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29177 [09:59:56] yes n4h1 ,,, same here.. [10:00:16] yeah, I don't know why they should do that [10:00:28] our message wont be noticed, if this is the case :( [10:00:28] and then I got hammered if in 3 hours I post my question twice [10:00:43] Change merged: Daniel Werner; [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28946 [10:00:56] New patchset: Hashar; "doxygen now recognizes README and .txt files" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29280 [10:00:59] I would try to help you [10:01:20] but I am still at the beginning and no idea of this crappy API [10:01:30] with an even crappier doc [10:01:39] New patchset: Hashar; "[FileBackend] Created README file for the file backend classes." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28606 [10:02:58] New review: Hashar; "Rebased on top of I78a0ce36 - "doxygen now recognizes README and .txt files"." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28606 [10:04:14] nappy: Do you need help anymore? [10:04:30] yes Jan_Luca if i may. :) [10:04:44] nappy: no there isn't currently a extension for article creation to my knowledge [10:04:53] how can i create a link if creating a new page? [10:05:08] What do you want to exactly? [10:05:29] ahhhmm i should put a link on my main page that state "Create Page" [10:05:41] and when clicking that link.. it will redirect to a new page [10:05:55] What title should have this new page [10:05:55] or creating a new page [10:05:58] is that possibe? [10:06:07] depends upon the user creating.. [10:06:21] New patchset: Siebrand; "Add GENDER support in messaging." [mediawiki/extensions/OnlineStatusBar] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29100 [10:06:25] its basically creating a new page Jan_Luca :) [10:06:36] A moment please [10:06:46] thanks Jan_Luca :) [10:07:32] I think you can use this: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:InputBox [10:07:36] New review: Siebrand; "PS2 adds jqueryMsg dep, but doesn't solve the username issue yet, because there is no user object av..." [mediawiki/extensions/OnlineStatusBar] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29100 [10:09:21] hmmmnnn [10:10:01] New patchset: Daniel Werner; "Renamed $PARENT to PARENT" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29281 [10:10:23] New patchset: Hashar; "[FileBackend] Created README file for the file backend classes." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28606 [10:10:50] will try this one Jan_Luca ... thanks for this :) [10:10:57] There should be a magic word for the user name that you could as default [10:11:04] *use [10:11:52] New patchset: Daniel Werner; "Renamed $PARENT to PARENT" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29281 [10:11:59] is article and page different? [10:12:25] a article means a page without prefix like Special: [10:12:49] ahhhhh okay.. [10:13:06] New review: Hashar; "Address trivial reports by Dereckson on Patchset 5." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28606 [10:14:27] Jan, do you have any idea about getting the HTML page using the API? [10:14:30] without a converter [10:14:31] nappy: Ok, there is no magic word for user name but you could use a default like "" [10:14:55] New patchset: Henning Snater; "Correct css class specification in edit section template" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29282 [10:14:56] What do you mean with "converter" [10:15:44] n4hl: What do you mean with "converter" [10:15:51] ok [10:15:53] my story: [10:16:12] I used to get the HTML page directly from wikipedia, without an API [10:16:21] when I started using processes (many of them) [10:16:37] I didn't get any result anymore and just 'Servers are busy..' [10:16:50] so I figured it might have been because of the high number of requests [10:17:01] now Im trying to find a way to use the API [10:17:03] and get the same HTML [10:17:10] they provide only json, xml etc... [10:17:29] people suggest to get xml and convert it to HTML and then I would need to parse it [10:17:35] Do you want the wiki text or the converted HTML with images, ... [10:17:38] which is impracticabl and dumb imho [10:17:43] converted HTML [10:17:49] because I am using Xpath [10:17:57] for getting out stuff [10:18:06] basically [10:18:13] I mean, that was my solution [10:18:17] maybe there is something faster [10:18:26] Im using erlang and I need to get out [10:18:33] title, summary and the infobox table [10:18:54] (image thumbnail and info) [10:19:08] and save them into a DB [10:19:13] how would do it, using the API? [10:19:49] The title and the summary you can get with the query-action [10:20:18] oh, and the only info I have [10:20:20] is the URL [10:20:34] can I get that or should I get the title by substring? [10:21:41] The title you have to get by substring if you only have the URL [10:22:00] ok [10:22:05] that wont be a problem [10:22:10] What language you are using? [10:22:14] Erlang [10:22:29] New patchset: Aude; "recent changes comments based on type of change" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29283 [10:22:33] so I get the title [10:22:40] and use it in the api query [10:22:42] ok, that I don't know :-) [10:22:46] nono [10:22:53] don't worry, I just need the theory [10:22:54] behind it [10:23:09] of course I wont ask you about Erlang :D [10:23:13] Yes, api.php?action=query&titles= [10:23:40] <n4h1> let's say [10:23:40] <n4h1> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&titles=Call_of_duty [10:23:46] <Jan_Luca> Then you have to add parameters that show which infos you need [10:24:14] <gerrit-wm> Change abandoned: Aude; "gerrit is evil! can't rebase this" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28365 [10:24:44] <n4h1> ok [10:24:57] <n4h1> can I just get the summary, title and infobox? [10:27:29] <gerrit-wm> Change abandoned: Kghbln; "Whatever" [mediawiki/extensions/CategoryTree] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26804 [10:27:53] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Siebrand; "Add GENDER support in messaging." [mediawiki/extensions/OnlineStatusBar] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29100 [10:28:35] <n4h1> because I have seen only 1 way to do [10:28:40] <n4h1> is to get revisions [10:28:40] <n4h1> like [10:28:43] <n4h1> prop=revisions [10:28:49] <Jan_Luca> A moment please [10:28:54] <n4h1> but that's messy and quite uselss [10:28:54] <n4h1> oh sorry [10:28:58] <n4h1> :) [10:29:46] <Jan_Luca> Do you use a Wikimedia wiki (Wikipedia, ...) or a own wiki? [10:30:02] <n4h1> wikipedia [10:30:06] <n4h1> the original one [10:30:14] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: John Erling Blad; "(Bug 40381) Some smaller fixes and comments on prefixed ids" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29284 [10:30:14] <Jan_Luca> Ok then you can use action=parse [10:30:34] <Jan_Luca> It outputs the parsed wikitext: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=parse&page=Call_of_duty [10:31:44] <n4h1> mm [10:31:57] <n4h1> how do I get specifically the summary and the title? [10:31:59] <n4h1> parsing the content? [10:32:49] <Jan_Luca> You said you use the HTML to get the infos [10:32:54] <n4h1> basically I need to use an XML parser + HTML parser + convert and save into DB [10:32:58] <n4h1> yeah, but bummer [10:33:07] <n4h1> I need to create a further parser [10:33:29] <n4h1> Jan_Luca what I want is to have 1 parser and that's it [10:33:39] <n4h1> I can also come to the point that I can scrape my HTML parser [10:33:49] <n4h1> and go for a JSON parser or XML one [10:33:54] <n4h1> but it has to be clearly faster and easier to make [10:34:03] <gerrit-wm> New review: Aude; "DO NOT MERGE YET!" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29283 [10:34:05] <n4h1> I mean, my HTML parser uses Xpath [10:34:17] <n4h1> and that is quite complex when it comes to get infobox stuff [10:34:44] <n4h1> if using another format and thus another parser, that process would be faster and easier for me [10:34:46] <n4h1> then I can go for that way [10:35:01] <n4h1> I don't know if I am clear [10:36:45] <Jan_Luca> Ok, I don't know a way only to get the summary and the info box [10:37:05] <n4h1> ok [10:37:09] <n4h1> so let's say [10:37:18] <n4h1> I need to get those info I told you [10:38:21] <n4h1> should I got for json and get out the info? [10:38:22] <Jan_Luca> But maybe ask the guys on https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-api [10:38:42] <n4h1> I mean, how would You go if you had to get those info [10:38:43] <Jan_Luca> I'm not a expert for the api [10:38:44] <n4h1> just a personal opinion [10:38:48] <n4h1> ah ok [10:39:23] <Jan_Luca> I would parse the wiki text with regex [10:40:05] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: Henning Snater; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29281 [10:42:09] <Jan_Luca> The content I would get with http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Call_of_Duty&action=raw [10:44:14] <n4h1> if I click that I get to download it [10:44:42] <n4h1> ah ok [10:44:42] <n4h1> pff... [10:45:30] <n4h1> I expected wikipedia to be better [10:45:40] <n4h1> but it is very bad [10:46:34] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Siebrand; "Add GENDER support in messaging." [mediawiki/extensions/OnlineStatusBar] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29100 [10:47:52] <n4h1> seriously not even the json version is decent [10:47:57] <n4h1> so bad [10:50:15] <Jan_Luca> I would do it so if there is a better way I don't know [10:50:46] <n4h1> I know, but seriously [10:51:05] <n4h1> they force you to use the API [10:51:07] <n4h1> and the API sucks [10:52:07] <n4h1> I mean, this could help: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Call_of_Duty?action=render [10:52:15] <n4h1> but it doesn't use the API [10:52:21] <n4h1> and I get the same issues at the end [10:52:31] <n4h1> that I will get blocked [10:54:42] <gerrit-wm> New review: Tobias Gritschacher; "There are several issues which should probably be addressed:" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28511 [10:54:58] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Siebrand; "Add GENDER support in messaging." [mediawiki/extensions/OnlineStatusBar] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29100 [10:56:20] <gerrit-wm> New review: Siebrand; "PS5 completes patch. Tested working on http://sandbox.translatewiki.net/wiki/User_talk:Siebrand?usel..." [mediawiki/extensions/OnlineStatusBar] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29100 [11:04:14] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Aude; "recent changes comments based on type of change" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29283 [11:06:52] <Solacium> I am hiding the Toolbox with this code added to MW:Common.css: #p-navigation, #p-tb { display:none }. How do I modify the code so that it only hides the toolbox for anonymous users? [11:08:25] <wikibugs> 03(mod) LiquidThreads namespaces are missing from L10n/i18n - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34917 summary (10Amir E. Aharoni) [11:11:03] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Installer defaults to zh language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41266 +comment (10Chad H.) [11:14:11] <oskie> I have a longstanding problem with my (Debian) mediawiki installation: sortable tables doesn't work [11:14:53] <tale> oskie: Have you tried installing latest mediawiki from mediawiki.org? [11:18:31] <wikibugs> 03(mod) initialization of the Language object is very heavy - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41103 (10Amir E. Aharoni) [11:18:32] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Language factory uses too simplistic caching - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38439 (10Amir E. Aharoni) [11:22:11] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) Nesting of templates withing ask-queries (format=template) is limited to 2 template levels (SMW 1.7.1) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41268 major; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; (g.m.hagedorn) [11:22:21] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Missing "Conjunction" word class for some languages in OmegaWiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38098 summary (10Amir E. Aharoni) [11:22:56] <oskie> tale: no.. but maybe I should. but first I will make a new installation from scratch using debian [11:23:35] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29246 [11:27:46] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMaps] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28932 [11:34:56] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) have wikivoyage and wikidata IRC cloaks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41144 +comment (10Filip Maljkovic [Dungodung]) [11:36:00] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Nikerabbit; "(bug 41261) Hardcoded paths in PremadeMediawikiExtensionsGroups" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29289 [11:37:16] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) Hard coded paths in PremadeMediawikiExtensionGroups::createMessageGroup() reduce flexibility - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41261 +comment (10Niklas Laxström) [11:38:27] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Run QUnit tests also in other locales than English - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39801 summary; +comment (10Santhosh Thottingal) [11:39:02] <Solacium> I am hiding the Toolbox with this code added to MW:Common.css: #p-navigation, #p-tb { display:none }. How do I modify the code so that it only hides the toolbox for anonymous users? [11:42:48] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Run QUnit tests also in other locales than English - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39801 +comment (10Santhosh Thottingal) [11:43:13] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Run QUnit tests also in other locales than English - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39801 (10Santhosh Thottingal) [11:43:14] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Qunit tests cannot be executed for multiple context languages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37321 (10Santhosh Thottingal) [11:46:55] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Jens Ohlig; "First version of a special page for setting a label." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28511 [11:47:02] <gerrit-wm> New review: Jens Ohlig; "This patchset addresses all problems mentioned by Tobi." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28511 [11:54:15] <Wejq> hi, i just want an answer to a simple issue - i have got so much grief on my wiki, and it was made on july, before everything was ok, so i want to rollback everything since then. [12:00:27] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Hashar; "miscellaneous doxygen warnings" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29291 [12:00:30] <Wejq> or do a massive undo on certain ip. [12:00:45] <Reedy> !nuke [12:00:45] <wm-bot> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Nuke [12:01:43] <Wejq> doesnt work for me [12:02:01] <Reedy> "doesn't work" isn't very helpful [12:02:08] <Wejq> or i can't use it, i enter that ips and it found nothing [12:02:54] <Reedy> Hmm, seems they might be needed to be listed in recent changes... [12:03:10] <Wejq> yup, and it was long time ago [12:03:31] <Wejq> i got a wiki backup from my friend and it was little bit griefed [12:03:53] <Wejq> and i suppose because of time that passed i cant do it with nuke [12:04:01] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29291 [12:04:30] <Wejq> but i'm noob, maybe i am wrong. [12:04:50] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29280 [12:06:11] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28818 [12:07:05] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27664 [12:24:02] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Siebrand; "Use new style FFS for Wikia and Toolserver, too" [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29294 [12:24:50] <Wejq> so halp [12:27:24] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: John Erling Blad; "(Bug 41214) Make Autocomment more general and reusable" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29295 [12:31:36] <Wejq> hey please help me with that grief huh [12:31:41] <Wejq> anybody ? [12:39:46] <gerrit-wm> New review: John Erling Blad; "Don't submit this yet" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: -2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29295 [12:40:21] <jaroug> hi, i there an op here, to unban 3 - #mediawiki: ban *!*@*info [by c!~charitwo@defocus/o-O, 4647259 secs ago] ? [12:40:35] <jaroug> maybe ban *.info is a bit too much [12:42:53] <Wejq> How to force delete every edit done by certain user/ip in articles that arent on recent articles not by using nuke and without playing with clicking "Undo" 9000001 times ? It couldn't be so hard that nobody response, people are bad, i suppose it's common issue. [12:43:09] <Wejq> i beg for help xD [12:43:35] <jaroug> Reedy, c ? [12:43:55] <Reedy> lol [12:44:03] <Reedy> that's ages ago too [12:46:51] <gerrit-wm> New review: MarkAHershberger; "Right now, the script uses tags on MW Core, but it makes sense to tag the extensions it grabs (and, ..." [mediawiki/tools/release] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28958 [12:46:58] <jaroug> Reedy: thx ;) [12:53:52] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Siebrand; "Update paths" [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29298 [12:54:37] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: Siebrand; [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29298 [12:56:29] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) SQLStore3 update.php breakage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41269 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; (jeroen_dedauw) [12:56:40] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Nikerabbit; "(bug 41260) Desc messages not displayed for MediaWikiExtensionFFS" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29299 [12:56:40] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Nikerabbit; "Introduce $context param to label and desc of message groups" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29300 [12:56:54] <wikibugs> 03(mod) SQLStore3 update.php breakage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41269 normal->04BLOCKER (10Jeroen De Dauw) [12:58:23] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28948 [13:01:36] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29299 [13:01:50] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29300 [13:02:27] <wolog> hello * (thx for the *info ban removal) [13:04:21] <jaroug> :> [13:04:59] <wolog> I'm looking for an extension that may be able to render a page with the diff from 2 revision highlighted (wiked is doing this at source level). I guess it may be difficult to do, but I wonder if someone is aware about something close ? [13:06:06] <sumanah> hi wolog [13:06:24] <sumanah> don't know, but could you point to a screenshot or something from wikied? not sure what you mean [13:06:32] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Fixed some queries that where not using mw db abstraction layer and failing on any setup with table prefix" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29302 [13:06:38] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Nikerabbit; "(bug 41261) Hardcoded paths in PremadeMediawikiExtensionsGroups" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29289 [13:07:39] <wolog> wiked is an already existing extension which provide a rich editor, and an ehanced diff viewer (at source level) [13:07:53] <wikibugs> 03(mod) SQLStore3 update.php breakage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41269 +comment (10Jeroen De Dauw) [13:08:07] <wolog> I will try to find an url (or build one) [13:08:14] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Nikerabbit; "Provide context to getDescription in few places" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29303 [13:08:29] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29289 [13:12:20] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Matthias Mullie; "Bug 39410 - Featuring oversight-requested posts" [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29304 [13:12:38] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Siebrand; "Use new style FFS for Wikia and Toolserver, too" [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29294 [13:12:55] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) desc messages not displayed for MediaWikiExtensionFFS - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41260 +comment (10Niklas Laxström) [13:14:05] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: Nikerabbit; [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29294 [13:16:17] <oskie> can anyone tell me how to troubleshoot sortable issues? I don't want to reinstall everything to fix this problem - everything else in the wiki is working as it is - but the sortable arrows never appear in the tables, so they are not sortable [13:16:31] <gerrit-wm> Change abandoned: MarkAHershberger; "moving to make-release" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23919 [13:17:54] <gerrit-wm> New review: Tobias Gritschacher; "Remaining issues:" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28511 [13:18:51] <sumanah> !lists | oskie [13:18:52] <wm-bot> oskie: mediawiki-l and wikitech-l are the primary mailing lists for MediaWiki-related issues. See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mailing_lists for details. [13:19:02] <sumanah> oskie: you might want to hit mediawiki-l [13:19:36] <oskie> hmm, ok, thanks sumanah. I will try to reproduce this problem by copying the database to a new installation first [13:20:48] <sumanah> also, what version of MW, oskie? [13:21:13] <oskie> sumanah: 1.19.2 [13:25:16] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29282 [13:25:23] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Siebrand; "Update path" [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29306 [13:25:24] <wikibugs> 03(mod) LinkCache doesn't currently know about this title - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37209 +comment (10Niklas Laxström) [13:25:25] <oskie> that's funny, the problem seem to be in the database [13:25:37] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: Siebrand; [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29306 [13:27:00] <oskie> err, my bad, it isn't. it must be in LocalSettings.php then. [13:28:25] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: MarkAHershberger; "refactor a bit and add support for .tarignore" [mediawiki/tools/release] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28956 [13:29:47] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Jens Ohlig; "First version of a special page for setting a label." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28511 [13:33:05] <gerrit-wm> New review: Yaron Koren; "Siebrand - this looks great. My one question is about the $timestamp variable: why is it getting cre..." [mediawiki/extensions/ApprovedRevs] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28969 [13:33:40] <gerrit-wm> New review: Nischayn22; "Irrelevant to this patch: The count mechanism needs still to be tested" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master); V: 0 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29302 [13:33:49] <sumanah> hi Nischayn22 [13:34:13] <Nischayn22> sumanah: hi, I am at the office in Berlin [13:34:17] <sumanah> cool! how is that? [13:34:46] <Nischayn22> really cool, working together with people around is more productive [13:34:58] <sumanah> yuvipanda, Nischayn22, Nikerabbit, Platonides, you may be especially interested in some lessons from the GSoC Mentor Summit this past weekend [13:36:05] <Nischayn22> sumanah: any links to learn from? [13:36:19] <gerrit-wm> Change abandoned: MarkAHershberger; "(no reason)" [mediawiki/core] (REL1_20) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28941 [13:36:24] <sumanah> Nischayn22: can you access http://gsoc-wiki.osuosl.org/index.php/2012 ? [13:36:45] <sumanah> Nischayn22: also a little summary of important things I discussed: [13:37:56] <Nischayn22> that page has too many links [13:38:24] <sumanah> Nischayn22: I'm sure it does [13:38:46] <sumanah> Nischayn22: I wanted to check whether you could access it first, thus my question, before pointing you to specific stuff [13:38:55] * sumanah is a little cranky at your complaining [13:39:41] <Nischayn22> oh, now point me to the stuff please [13:39:47] <sumanah> ok [13:40:35] <sumanah> http://gsoc-wiki.osuosl.org/index.php/Session_Notes_2012 specifically "recruiting mentors", "student selection phase" and "PHP" [13:40:38] <Amgine> Steve's not here; he went to get the stuff... [13:41:24] <Nischayn22> I am cranky at Google providing us with hip-hop tees [13:41:39] <sumanah> Nischayn22: are you seriously complaining about the design on *free t-shirts*? [13:42:06] <Nischayn22> not the design, the size is weird [13:42:06] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Siebrand; "Fix variable names." [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29309 [13:42:26] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: Siebrand; [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29309 [13:42:37] <Nischayn22> sumanah: they made XL for S, and still marked it as S [13:43:31] <sumanah> Nischayn22: ah, I thought you were complaining about the DESIGN [13:43:39] <sumanah> Nischayn22: did you tell google about their error? [13:43:52] <sumanah> some important things I discussed: Donnie Berkholz of Gentoo talked about informing the mentors via video call [13:43:59] <Nischayn22> no, its a general problem with everyone [13:44:36] <sumanah> if you didn't file a bug report with them, I'm a little disappointed [13:45:28] <Nischayn22> I am sure they have many reporting :P [13:45:39] <sumanah> Nischayn22: "the tragedy of the commons" [13:45:45] <sumanah> if everyone thinks that then no one does it [13:49:58] <sumanah> I really liked talking to Donnie, who wrote http://dberkholz.com/2010/12/14/7-problems-gsoc-admins-encounter/ and http://redmonk.com/dberkholz/2012/07/10/how-to-recruit-open-source-contributors/ [13:51:21] <Nikerabbit> sumanah: so who were at the summit in the end? [13:53:56] <sumanah> Nikerabbit: there's a list of attendees there, lemme find the link [13:54:38] <sumanah> Nikerabbit: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aqll7niXqYFudDJOYUR5bmxmZW9RUnIyLTFHRzFmR2c#gid=0 [13:55:04] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Santhosh; "Simplify the preference system" [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29311 [13:55:35] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28511 [13:56:05] * sumanah is in another conversation, back in 5 min [13:58:05] <sumanah> Nikerabbit: RobLa & I went for WMF and Andre Klapper came with us but he was representing GNOME [13:58:19] <sumanah> Andre led http://gsoc-wiki.osuosl.org/index.php/2012_Bug_management [13:58:23] <sumanah> " Bug report management (Issue tracking): Problems and common practices " [13:59:45] <sumanah> I need to track this down, but Donnie told me there's data that mentor-student pairs who communicate at least once a day do WAY better than those who communicate less frequently [14:01:40] <sumanah> Nischayn22: you are a good example: you are a student who did well and had TWO mentors, and other projects also reported that having 2 mentors per student works better [14:03:05] <sumanah> not for us, but for other FLOSS projects, https://codereview.appspot.com/ looks interesting [14:03:14] <sumanah> (we don't need it since we have Gerrit) [14:05:28] <Nikerabbit> sumanah: that's easy to believe [14:05:42] <sumanah> 2 mentors - yeah [14:06:04] <sumanah> The OWASP project talked about the tools they offer to help people build more secure open source applications [14:06:16] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Nikerabbit; "Added tests to database fuzzy marker updates" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29313 [14:06:24] <sumanah> like the https://www.owasp.org/index.php/O2 platform for security reviews [14:06:33] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Matthias Mullie; "Bug 39410 - Featuring oversight-requested posts" [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29304 [14:06:45] <sumanah> and https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Category:OWASP_Presentations and https://www.owasp.org/index.php/OWASP_Training_Schedules - next year I might ask them to provide online trainings during the Community Bonding Period [14:08:03] <sumanah> hi chrismcmahon [14:08:15] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Matthias Mullie; "sync action names" [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29314 [14:09:10] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Featuring oversight-requested posts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39410 +comment (10Matthias Mullie) [14:10:06] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Featuring oversight-requested posts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39410 +comment (10Oliver Keyes) [14:10:20] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Featuring oversight-requested posts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39410 +comment (10Oliver Keyes) [14:12:02] <sumanah> The other important thing is that I decided that Wikimedia will take part in the next session of the Outreach Program for Women http://projects.gnome.org/outreach/women/ [14:12:11] <sumanah> more details to follow as we decide them [14:13:43] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Special:NewProperty with an empty label will fail in a confusing way - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40651 (10jeblad) [14:13:52] <sumanah> Fun thing: I led Powerpoint Karaoke [14:14:35] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Featuring oversight-requested posts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39410 +comment (10Matthias Mullie) [14:15:29] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Featuring oversight-requested posts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39410 +comment (10Oliver Keyes) [14:18:19] <sumanah> basically http://infotrope.net/2008/09/05/powerpoint-karaoke-or-the-most-fun-you-can-have-with-a-meeting-room-and-a-projector/ [14:18:23] <sumanah> with some variation [14:20:19] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Siebrand; "Update tags." [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29318 [14:20:19] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: Siebrand; [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29318 [14:24:58] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Siebrand; "Remove dupe and update order" [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29319 [14:25:06] <gerrit-wm> New review: cneubauer; "grammar?" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28971 [14:28:06] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Featuring oversight-requested posts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39410 +comment (10Matthias Mullie) [14:28:06] <chrismcmahon> hi sumanah [14:28:28] <sumanah> chrismcmahon: did you ever hear of O2 from OWASP? https://www.owasp.org/index.php/O2 [14:29:29] <chrismcmahon> sumanah: I've known of OWASP for years now, reading about O2 [14:29:43] <sumanah> chrismcmahon: I am behind the times and only heard of OWASP last year [14:30:11] <sumanah> chrismcmahon: given their materials at https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Category:OWASP_Presentations and https://www.owasp.org/index.php/OWASP_Training_Schedules - next year I might ask them to provide online trainings during the Community Bonding Period [14:31:25] <sumanah> (at the beginning of GSoC, to the accepted students) [14:31:41] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Siebrand; "Remove dupe, update order and use mangled key" [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29319 [14:31:50] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: Siebrand; [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29319 [14:35:22] <chrismcmahon> sumanah: O2 looks pretty Windows-specific. also Chris Steipp might have more details about OWASP than me. [14:35:39] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Nikerabbit; "Also profile the store part" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29320 [14:37:23] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29320 [14:37:58] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29313 [14:37:59] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Many SVG files have stopped rendering - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41174 +comment (10Bawolff) [14:38:28] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Reedy; "Fix display of extdist-choose-version" [mediawiki/extensions/ExtensionDistributor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29321 [14:38:55] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29303 [14:42:16] <gerrit-wm> New review: Siebrand; "@Yaron For BC." [mediawiki/extensions/ApprovedRevs] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28969 [14:43:30] <wikibugs> 03(mod) move USERINFO to git - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34851 +comment (10Chad H.) [14:43:36] <gerrit-wm> New review: Yaron Koren; "Oh... right, of course." [mediawiki/extensions/ApprovedRevs] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28969 [14:43:58] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: John Erling Blad; "(Bug 41214) Make Autocomment more general and reusable" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29295 [14:44:03] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Henning Snater; "Invoking template provider in JavaScript" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29322 [14:46:26] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) No IPv6 addresses on Wikimedia nameservers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41270 normal; Wikimedia: DNS; (jasper) [14:46:38] <wikibugs> 03(mod) No IPv6 addresses on Wikimedia nameservers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41270 +ipv6 (10Jasper Deng) [14:51:41] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Siebrand; "Fix group ID" [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29323 [14:51:49] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: Siebrand; [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29323 [14:58:24] <wikibugs> 03(VERIFIED) move USERINFO to git - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34851 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [14:59:57] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Featuring oversight-requested posts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39410 +comment (10Oliver Keyes) [15:01:13] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Allow list of group member names for userrights-groupsmember and userrights-groupsmember-auto - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31565 (10Amir E. Aharoni) [15:06:00] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) Please upload a video file to Wikimedia Commons 2 Go - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41271 normal; Wikimedia: Site configuration; (jeannemenj) [15:07:45] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) Unoptimized query in LiquidThreads - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41272 normal; MediaWiki extensions: LiquidThreads; (niklas.laxstrom) [15:09:05] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: Nikerabbit; [mediawiki/extensions/ExtensionDistributor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29321 [15:10:08] <sumanah> marktraceur: your etherpad is down -- are you awake to fix? [15:10:31] <^demon> Back up for me. [15:13:05] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Henning Snater; "Invoking template provider in JavaScript [DO NOT MERGE]" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29322 [15:13:38] <sumanah> yeah, back up for me as well [15:18:11] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Matthias Mullie; "turn textarea into inputfield, enabling default browser autocomplete based on previous entries" [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29326 [15:24:43] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Featuring oversight-requested posts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39410 +comment (10Matthias Mullie) [15:26:36] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Featuring oversight-requested posts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39410 +comment (10Oliver Keyes) [15:28:24] <Nikerabbit> Reedy: did you read that paper? [15:29:12] <Reedy> What paper? [15:29:16] <Reedy> The code review one? [15:31:07] * sumanah listens with interest to Nikerabbit  [15:31:39] <Reedy> sumanah: http://www2.smartbear.com/Best-Practices-Peer-Code-Review.html if that's what Nikerabbit is on about... [15:31:48] <Reedy> You can order a free book too [15:32:02] <sumanah> hmm [15:32:37] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Henning Snater; "Invoking template provider in JavaScript" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29322 [15:32:45] <sumanah> I used lessons from _Making Software_ in talking about CR this weekend [15:49:43] <arnd__> hello. i've noticed that when using the "Export as PDF" feature on mediawiki.org and on wikipedia, the "License" section contains a broken link to the creative commons license (the "http:" is missing). could you please point me to the correct place to report this? [15:55:55] <andre__> arnd__: I'd start with https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Mediawiki extensions&component=PdfHandler . Note that using Bugzilla requires registering an account, but that's quickly done [15:57:01] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: Daniel Werner; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29322 [15:57:29] <wikibugs> 03(ASSIGNED) Seeking in video files (range requests) does not work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40779 +comment (10Mark Bergsma) [15:59:07] <arnd__> andre__: thanks, i'll have a look there. [16:00:12] <marktraceur> arnd__: FYI, //creativecommons.org is a way of staying protocol-neutral. For people accessing an HTTPS page, it renders as https://, for HTTP, it renders as http://. They're called protocol-relative links. [16:00:25] <marktraceur> I can imagine this is less-than-useful on a PDF, where there is no protocol :) [16:01:03] <marktraceur> arnd__: Though it might be worthwhile to try--if you click on the link, you're 100% sure it doesn't work? [16:02:33] <arnd__> Okay, I didn't know that convention. Concerning the "broken-ness" of the link: It's not a link, just the URL as plain text. [16:03:08] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) ExtensionDistributor does not work: "Invalid response from Extension Distributor remote client" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41081 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [16:05:17] <wikibugs> 03(mod) ExtensionDistributor does not work: "Invalid response from Extension Distributor remote client" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41081 +comment (10Liangent) [16:06:34] <marktraceur> arnd__: Now that *is* odd. And other links (wikilinks and the like) do work? [16:06:56] <marktraceur> arnd__: Could you link to a page where you see this happening? :) [16:07:25] <arnd__> marktraceur: The other links work, yes. [16:08:32] <arnd__> marktraceur: Just go to a random page on wikipedia or mediawiki.org, click "Print/export" and then "Download as PDF" [16:08:46] * marktraceur follows directions exactly [16:10:05] <marktraceur> arnd__: I don't see any plain '//' links on this page [16:10:24] <arnd__> marktraceur: If you then scroll to the last page of the PDF and look at the "Licence" section, you will see the URL without the protocol [16:10:34] <marktraceur> Oh, hm. [16:10:38] * marktraceur looks again [16:11:00] <arnd__> marktraceur: Try this http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Book&bookcmd=rendering&return_to=Amboasary+Sud&collection_id=810ef47320f14101&writer=rl for example [16:11:10] <marktraceur> Aha, I see. [16:11:26] <marktraceur> arnd__: That does indeed appear to be a bug. I assume you're on your way to report it? [16:11:34] <marktraceur> (or have already?) [16:12:17] <arnd__> marktraceur: I've been skimming through the existing bugreports of PdfHandler to check whether there already is a report. [16:12:34] <arnd__> marktraceur: But PdfHandler is the right extension in this case? [16:13:19] <marktraceur> arnd__: Almost certainly, yes. It's basically a feature request, but I intend to fill in more details on the bug once you file it :) [16:13:56] <arnd__> marktraceur: Okay, I'll sign up and report it. [16:14:06] <marktraceur> arnd__: I lied, PDFHandler isn't the right one [16:14:17] <marktraceur> (sorry, I didn't read anything on it 'til just now) [16:14:17] <Reedy> No [16:14:25] <Reedy> Collection [16:14:28] <marktraceur> Ah, there we go. [16:14:39] <marktraceur> arnd__: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=MediaWiki%20extensions&component=Collection [16:15:02] <wikibugs> 03(mod) ExtensionDistributor does not work: "Invalid response from Extension Distributor remote client" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41081 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [16:16:07] <marktraceur> !reportbug is https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=MediaWiki%20extensions&component=`e1 [16:16:07] <wm-bot> Key was added [16:16:40] <marktraceur> I won't be copying that link again [16:16:45] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Yaron Koren; "New version: 0.3.3" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticCompoundQueries] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29336 [16:16:48] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Please upload a video file to Wikimedia Commons 2 Go - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41271 +shell (10Andre Klapper) [16:17:41] <Reedy> 1.8GB [16:18:11] <marktraceur> !rb alias reportbug [16:18:11] <wm-bot> Created new alias for this key [16:19:20] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: Yaron Koren; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticCompoundQueries] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29336 [16:20:18] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Henning Snater; "Implemented data model in JS" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28312 [16:21:22] <wikibugs> 03(mod) PDFs do not include superscript for chemical formulas ("Chem" tag) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40042 summary (10Andre Klapper) [16:23:02] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Please upload a video file to Wikimedia Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41271 summary; +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [16:24:34] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Unoptimized query in LiquidThreads - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41272 +performance (10Andre Klapper) [16:25:41] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: Henning Snater; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28312 [16:27:05] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Work on qunit tests for datavalues - DO NOT SUBMIT" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29337 [16:28:42] <wikibugs> 03(mod) mediawiki.action.edit.preview is not loaded at Commons despite "Use live preview" (wpuselivepreview) is activated in [[Special:Preferences]] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41267 +code-update-regression; summary; +comment (10Andre Klapper) [16:31:06] <arakno> hallo everyone [16:32:28] <marktraceur> arakno: Hi! [16:33:41] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: Markus Kroetzsch; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29302 [16:35:14] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) "Download as PDF" contains broken licence link - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41273 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Collection; (mediawiki-bugs) [16:36:38] <wikibugs> 03(mod) SQLStore3 update.php error: duplicate key in smw_stats - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41269 summary (10Markus Krötzsch) [16:36:52] <wikibugs> 03(mod) SQLStore3 update.php error: duplicate key in smw_stats - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41269 (10Markus Krötzsch) [16:37:39] <arnd__> marktraceur: Done. [16:37:48] <arakno> how can i divide a page into 4 indexed sections? [16:37:56] <marktraceur> arnd__: I saw, adding some details now :) [16:38:16] <marktraceur> arakno: Sections are defined by the headers that precede them. [16:38:26] <marktraceur> arakno: So you would open a section with " [16:38:30] <marktraceur> Sorry [16:38:34] <marktraceur> "== Header 1 ==" [16:38:48] <marktraceur> arakno: Then the next section with "== Header 2 ==" [16:39:01] <marktraceur> And so on [16:39:51] <arakno> ok, thats nice, but can i somehow regroup sections by Header 1(page1,page2,...,pagen), besides page1(header1,header2,....,headern)? [16:41:00] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Fatal error with on SMW 1.8 beta2 when viewing a property page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41177 +comment (10Neill Mitchell) [16:41:08] <marktraceur> arakno: You want pages inside of sections? [16:42:19] <arakno> i would like to have a flexible navigation through "headers through pages", besides "pages through headers" [16:42:49] <marktraceur> Oh, hm. [16:43:11] <marktraceur> arakno: So in the table of contents, you see links to multiple pages, as opposed to only the sections in this page? [16:43:19] <arakno> yup [16:43:23] <marktraceur> Hm, interesting. [16:43:30] <marktraceur> That, I'm not sure about. [16:44:12] <marktraceur> arakno: I think you'd have to make it yourself, but I could be wrong. I'm not the absolute best person to answer the question :) [16:44:25] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) Cortado doesn't work on Mac with Oracle JRE 7 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41274 normal; Cortado: User interface; (hartman.wiki) [16:44:53] <arakno> i thank you for the help, i might not be able, to do it myself, still you'd been the best answer till now ;D [16:46:05] <marktraceur> sumanah: I'm glad the problem apparently fixed itself, let me know if it goes down again [16:46:11] <sumanah> andre__: ping re some new bugs [16:46:16] <sumanah> marktraceur: thanks! will do. [16:46:18] <sumanah> it was a 503 [16:46:33] <marktraceur> Odd. I can investigate if it happens again. [16:46:34] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Cortado doesn't work on Mac with Oracle JRE 7 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41274 +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [16:46:45] <sumanah> thanks [16:49:15] <^Mike> Is there a way to search inside file uploads? That would need to include files like MS Word, for example. [16:49:54] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Cortado doesn't work on Mac with Oracle JRE 7 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41274 +comment (10Brion Vibber) [16:50:04] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Reedy; "* (bug 41267) mediawiki.action.edit.preview is not loaded" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29339 [16:50:47] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) mediawiki.action.edit.preview is not loaded at Commons despite "Use live preview" (wpuselivepreview) is activated in [[Special:Preferences]] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41267 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [16:50:54] <gerrit-wm> New review: Reedy; "Caused bug 41267" [mediawiki/core] (Wikidata) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27189 [16:51:42] <sumanah> Reedy: do you have a moment to look at https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41270 "No IPv6 addresses on Wikimedia nameservers" ? [16:51:57] <arnd__> Okay, I'll leave now. Thanks for your help, marktraceur, andre__ and Reedy. Bye. [16:51:59] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Cortado doesn't work on Mac with Oracle JRE 7 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41274 +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [16:52:05] <marktraceur> arnd__: Cheers! [16:52:10] <andre__> sumanah: pong (but I'll be in the office in 30min) [16:52:15] <sumanah> andre__: ok! see you soon. [16:52:19] <RoanKattouw> sumanah: That's really not a Reedy issue, more of an ops issue [16:52:25] <Reedy> sumanah: nothing I can do, needs ops dealing with it [16:52:39] <Yaron> ^Mike: I'm pretty sure there's no way, unfortunately. [16:52:39] <sumanah> OK, just wanted a confirmation that it wasn't nonsense [16:52:46] <Reedy> Dunno, I can't test it ;) [16:53:07] <sumanah> now that I know it's at least not a nonsensical bug report, I'll raise it to Ops [16:53:17] <Yaron> ^Mike: it's something that people have wanted added for a long time, but no one has done it yet. [16:53:21] <Reedy> seems a very small use case [16:53:22] <^Mike> Thanks, Yaron. I figured as much. [16:53:26] <Reedy> I can't see many people being ipv6 only... [16:53:56] <RoanKattouw> Still [16:54:17] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Cortado doesn't work on Mac with Oracle JRE 7 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41274 +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [16:54:17] <Reedy> I didn't say it shouldn't be fixed! [16:54:18] <RoanKattouw> If we're not advertising IPv6 addresses for our name servers, that's bad [16:54:58] <marktraceur> ^Mike: Probably one of the better ways to do it would be to copy the plain text into a wiki page and link to the download....of course, that's significantly problematic in a lot of ways. [16:55:40] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Markus Kroetzsch; "Fixed reference to outdated table name" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29340 [16:58:04] <wikibugs> 03(mod) "Download as PDF" contains broken licence link - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41273 normal->15enhancement; +comment (10Mark Holmquist) [16:58:56] <wikibugs> 03(mod) No IPv6 addresses on Wikimedia nameservers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41270 +ops (10Krenair) [17:02:58] <wikibugs> 03(mod) PDFs do not include superscript for chemical formulas ("Chem" tag) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40042 +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [17:03:31] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Reedy; "* (bug 41272) Unoptimized query in LiquidThreads" [mediawiki/extensions/LiquidThreads] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29341 [17:03:54] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) External links no longer handled correctly in query templates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41275 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; (yaron57) [17:04:45] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) Unoptimized query in LiquidThreads - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41272 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [17:06:10] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Many SVG files have stopped rendering - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41174 +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [17:06:30] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Reedy; "* (bug 41272) Unoptimized query in LiquidThreads" [mediawiki/extensions/LiquidThreads] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29341 [17:07:53] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Many SVG files have stopped rendering - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41174 +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [17:08:40] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: Catrope; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28789 [17:08:50] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Many SVG files have stopped rendering - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41174 +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [17:11:52] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Documentation missing for parameter SMWResultPrinter::$maxRecursionDepth (limits #ask transclusion nesting depth) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41268 major->minor; summary; +comment (10Markus Krötzsch) [17:13:02] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Reedy; "Updated onLoadExtensionSchemaUpdates code" [mediawiki/extensions/LiquidThreads] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29342 [17:13:44] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Reedy; "Updated onLoadExtensionSchemaUpdates code" [mediawiki/extensions/LiquidThreads] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29342 [17:17:37] <gerrit-wm> New review: Mwalker; "PS6 was a rebase to current master. Comments on comments." [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26502 [17:19:36] <wikibugs> 03(ASSIGNED) External links no longer handled correctly in query templates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41275 +comment (10Markus Krötzsch) [17:20:17] <gerrit-wm> Change abandoned: Demon; "(no reason)" [mediawiki/extensions/CreditSource] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28315 [17:23:24] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Reedy; "Bug 41129 - Collection: Remove usage of legacy javascript globals" [mediawiki/extensions/Collection] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28446 [17:24:14] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "[FileBackend] Created README file for the file backend classes." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28606 [17:26:38] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: IAlex; "Use Html class instead of Xml where possible in Special:Contributions" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27442 [17:27:07] <gerrit-wm> New review: IAlex; "resolved merge conflict" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27442 [17:28:17] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Initial commit of prototype JS library for logging/validation" [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29343 [17:30:28] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: IAlex; "Use LogFormatter to format rights log." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/20515 [17:32:27] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Initial commit of prototype JS library for logging/validation" [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29343 [17:33:32] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Initial commit of prototype JS library for logging/validation" [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29343 [17:34:20] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: preilly; "Update ZeroRatedMobileAccess to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29345 [17:34:46] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: preilly; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29345 [17:34:54] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: Trevor Parscal; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28787 [17:35:18] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) LQT should intercept "section=new" edits through API as well as skin interface - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41276 enhancement; MediaWiki extensions: LiquidThreads; (jforrester) [17:35:52] <wikibugs> 03(mod) LQT should intercept "section=new" edits through API as well as skin interface - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41276 (10James Forrester) [17:39:13] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Show category links above the edit box - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/2679 +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [17:41:33] <dan-nl> hey all, anyone know of any tutorials or docs that explain how to best use UploadBase? [17:41:54] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "[FileBackend] Give warnings when metadata is missing from swift." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29346 [17:42:28] <csteipp> dan-nl: I have not found any, other than reading the code, but someone else may know where to find it [17:43:31] <dan-nl> csteipp: thanks, that's what i was afraid of ... will do my best :) [17:43:49] <AaronSchulz> RoanKattouw: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/29346/1 trivial change [17:45:01] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: Catrope; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29346 [17:49:42] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: MarkTraceur; "Fix copying bug by forwarding _id into the copy" [wikimedia/orgchart] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29348 [17:50:01] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: MarkTraceur; [wikimedia/orgchart] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29348 [17:53:38] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Abuse filter for very short posts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40672 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [17:53:49] <wikibugs> 03(ASSIGNED) VisualEditor: Clicking at the left of a wikicode block does not put the cursor there. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41199 +comment (10James Forrester) [17:54:47] <wikibugs> 03(ASSIGNED) VisualEditor: Text entered at left of nowiki block replaced with a slug character (pawn) when saved - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41200 summary; +comment (10James Forrester) [17:57:22] <wikibugs> 03(ASSIGNED) VisualEditor: Backspace does not remove paragraph when previous paragraph contains nowiki block - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41202 +comment (10James Forrester) [17:59:27] <wikibugs> 03(ASSIGNED) VisualEditor: Paragraph containing nowiki block does not change style unless block selected - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41203 +comment (10James Forrester) [18:01:50] <sumanah> andre__: I've been told that the way to follow up on https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41270 is to file an RT ticket and follow up on it with Ops. Can I ask you to do that? [18:02:18] <andre__> sumanah, sure [18:02:23] <sumanah> thanks andre__ [18:04:37] <wikibugs> 03(mod) jquery.makeCollapsible() very slow if many collapsible, initially collapsed elements - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34876 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [18:05:36] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) Call to a member function isEmpty() on a non-object in EditPage.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41178 (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [18:06:06] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Many SVG files have stopped rendering - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41174 (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [18:06:07] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Next wmf deployment (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38865 (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [18:07:15] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) [Regression] ContentHandler should not disable parsing of .js/.css wiki pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41155 (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [18:11:48] <wikibugs> 03(mod) "Download as PDF" contains broken licence link - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41273 15enhancement->normal (10Sumana Harihareswara) [18:12:54] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27442 [18:13:42] <wikibugs> 03(ASSIGNED) VisualEditor: Context menu appears in the wrong place in IE10 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41233 +comment (10James Forrester) [18:15:55] <wikibugs> 03(mod) API: Add timestamp sort to list=allimages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27202 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [18:19:04] <wikibugs> 03(mod) [Regression] Incomplete log entries - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37714 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [18:19:18] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) Catchable fatal error: Argument 1 passed to ApiParse::getSectionContent() must be an instance of Content, null given - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41277 normal; MediaWiki: API; (sam) [18:19:52] <sumanah> new blog entry about the 96th user on en.wp: https://blog.wikimedia.org/2012/10/22/where-its-a-given-that-you-would-publish-your-source-code/ :) [18:21:49] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Documentation missing for parameter SMWResultPrinter::$maxRecursionDepth (limits #ask transclusion nesting depth) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41268 +comment (10Gregor Hagedorn) [18:26:12] <wikibugs> 03(mod) VisualEditor: Handle edit conflicts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37828 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [18:26:43] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Reedy; "(bug 40857) fix non-array sidebar links handling in CologneBlue" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29352 [18:27:10] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Reedy; "Add wfSuppressWarnings(); to CologneBlue." [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29353 [18:27:36] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29352 [18:27:43] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29353 [18:27:49] <wikibugs> 03(mod) VisualEditor: Implement keyboard command registry - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40896 (10James Forrester) [18:33:38] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Catchable fatal error: Argument 1 passed to ApiParse::getSectionContent() must be an instance of Content, null given - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41277 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [18:33:43] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Catchable fatal error: Argument 1 passed to ApiParse::getSectionContent() must be an instance of Content, null given - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41277 (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [18:37:49] <MatmaRex> just wondering, should the patch-in-gerrit keyword be removed after the change is merged? i saw someone do that [18:38:35] <marktraceur> MatmaRex: Yeah, because the keyword is meant to help find unreviewed patches in gerrit that are related to bugs [18:38:40] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Deploy wikidata.org with the Wikidata repository - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40000 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [18:40:18] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Log source of feedback moderation activity in FeedbackPage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41061 +patch-in-gerrit (10Andre Klapper) [18:40:46] <MatmaRex> marktraceur: then you have exactly 100 bugs. to mod right now. :D https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?type1-0-0=substring&list_id=153936&field0-0-0=keywords&query_format=advanced&bug_status=RESOLVED&value1-0-0=resolved&type0-0-0=substring&value0-0-0=patch-in-gerrit [18:40:54] <MatmaRex> man, that's an ugly search. [18:41:29] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Android app should allow pinch and zoom - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34293 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [18:41:36] <sumanah> andre__: a couple more things to follow up on: https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisource:Scriptorium#Pagelist_not_working_on_index_page [18:45:17] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) Log source of feedback moderation activity in FeedbackPage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41061 (10Matthias Mullie) [18:46:44] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Catchable fatal error: Argument 1 passed to ApiParse::getSectionContent() must be an instance of Content, null given - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41277 +comment (10Rob Lanphier) [18:46:44] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Next wmf deployment (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38865 (10Rob Lanphier) [18:46:58] <sumanah> andre__: have we seen bug reports in this deployment about edit conflict issues? https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump#Edit_conflict_issues https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28technical%29#Problem_with_edit_conflicts [18:47:31] <andre__> sumanah, wild guess: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37828 [18:48:24] <sumanah> andre__: but that's using VE, which is not yet deployed on Commons or Wiktionary [18:48:34] <andre__> sumanah, I was afraid you'd say that. [18:48:47] <andre__> sumanah, the fi.wikisource ticket before has been filed already in Bugzilla [18:49:21] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29418 [18:49:50] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/core] (REL1_20) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29419 [18:50:23] <wikibugs> 03(mod) External links no longer handled correctly in query templates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41275 +comment (10Yaron Koren) [18:52:00] <sumanah> andre__: could you comment on the Commons and/or English Wikipedia threads to ask whether that's it? [18:52:14] <andre__> yepp [18:53:15] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Aude; "check for null content in ApiParse.php" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29420 [18:53:31] <ThirteenOranges> We... so is there a lot of Wiki gurus here? [18:54:04] <sumanah> yes! [18:54:08] <sumanah> Hi ThirteenOranges [18:54:19] <ThirteenOranges> Hello! :D [18:55:15] <marktraceur> ThirteenOranges: Flattery will get you everywhere! :) How's it going? [18:56:04] * sumanah considers https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisource:Scriptorium#Something_has_changed_-_deprecated_parameters [18:56:09] <ThirteenOranges> Heh, good. :D I was thinking of making a MediaWiki... Wiki, in the future, and was seeing if it was easy to get it up and running. [18:56:25] <sumanah> It depends on your environment and previous skill [18:56:42] <MatmaRex> ThirteenOranges: but basically, if you're on a reasonable hosting, yes, it's easy to do [18:56:44] <sumanah> ThirteenOranges: are you on Windows, Mac, Linux, or Other? [18:56:59] <MatmaRex> if you know what a database it and how to connect to one, you're good to go ;) [18:57:25] <ThirteenOranges> Im on Windows. [18:57:42] <sumanah> ThirteenOranges: that will be more difficult than Linux [18:57:53] <Reedy> Not necesserily [18:58:06] <Reedy> XAMPP etc give you a working WAMP stack [18:58:29] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "Cleaned up metadata normalization issues." [mediawiki/extensions/SwiftCloudFiles] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29421 [18:58:49] <sumanah> ThirteenOranges: have you ever run a server before? [18:58:57] <ThirteenOranges> No :| [18:59:09] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Catchable fatal error: Argument 1 passed to ApiParse::getSectionContent() must be an instance of Content, null given - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41277 +comment (10Aude) [18:59:10] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: Bsitu; [mediawiki/extensions/MoodBar] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/21034 [18:59:20] <sumanah> ThirteenOranges: you may be interested in paying someone else to host your wiki for you and run all that stuff [18:59:33] <sumanah> ThirteenOranges: or in getting an ad-supported wiki hosted for you for free [18:59:47] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Matmarex; "document Skin::buildSidebar per own experience with CologneBlue" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29422 [18:59:54] <wikibugs> 03(mod) No IPv6 addresses on Wikimedia nameservers ns(0-2).wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41270 summary; +comment (10Andre Klapper) [19:00:01] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "Use the new CloudFiles metadata functions." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29423 [19:00:10] <MatmaRex> ^^^ the above changeset is more documentation! somebody merge it quick! [19:00:16] <ThirteenOranges> How would I go about getting an ad supported Wiki? [19:00:19] <AaronSchulz> RoanKattouw: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/29421/ [19:00:20] <MatmaRex> actually, i guess i should have added (bug 1) to the commit message :D [19:00:30] <sumanah> ThirteenOranges: have you ever heard of Wikia? [19:00:52] <ThirteenOranges> Yeah, that ugly looking Wiki >.> [19:00:59] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) Increase allowable feedback text length - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34586 +comment (10Siebrand) [19:01:07] <Vulpix> ThirteenOranges: lol [19:02:02] <ThirteenOranges> How much does hosting MediaWiki cost? I mainly just want to get expierence in installing it and running one. [19:02:04] <sumanah> ThirteenOranges: I know there are others, too, but I don't know as much about them [19:02:21] <sumanah> ThirteenOranges: MediaWiki is free software so you could just download and run a copy on your own computer first [19:02:49] <ThirteenOranges> Oh really? Would that allow me to make templates and other things on my own PC? [19:02:54] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Matmarex; "(bug 1) document Skin::buildSidebar per own experience" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29422 [19:02:54] <gerrit-wm> New review: Aaron Schulz; "Uses https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/29421/" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29423 [19:02:59] <sumanah> Indeed! [19:03:14] <sumanah> Most developers of MediaWiki have local "development environments" set up on their own laptops [19:03:24] <ThirteenOranges> Oh thats cool! How would I go about doing that :3 [19:03:24] <wikibugs> 03(mod) VisualEditor: Handle edit conflicts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37828 15enhancement->04BLOCKER; +comment (10James Forrester) [19:03:25] <wikibugs> 03(mod) jquery.makeCollapsible() very slow if many collapsible, initially collapsed elements - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34876 +comment (10Isarra) [19:03:28] <gerrit-wm> New review: Matmarex; "So yeah, I really couldn't resist mentioning bug 1." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29422 [19:03:31] <sumanah> of course the outside world can't see the web pages you make when you do that [19:03:31] <wikibugs> 03(mod) importDump.php: Oracle DB error "quoted string not properly terminated" after several hours - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38793 summary (10Andre Klapper) [19:03:43] <sumanah> ThirteenOranges: have you ever heard of Vagrant? [19:03:54] <ThirteenOranges> Hm... Nope. [19:04:11] <Krenair> "Patch needs one more review in Gerrit, help welcome." [19:04:15] <Krenair> andre__, what? one more review? [19:04:16] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29420 [19:04:17] <sumanah> ThirteenOranges: skim this mailing list thread http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/wiki/wikitech/304935 [19:04:36] <AaronSchulz> James_F: so it will be an issue in a different way? ;) [19:04:44] <James_F> AaronSchulz: Yes. :-) [19:04:51] <andre__> Krenair: if I'm wrong correct me please (don't remember the ticket number) [19:04:51] <Krenair> It only needs to be reviewed by someone with merge privileges [19:05:05] <Krenair> Two +1s don't make an approval + merge :) [19:05:13] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Many SVG files have stopped rendering - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41174 +comment (10AnonMoos) [19:05:20] <James_F> AaronSchulz: Specifically, giving people who've never learnt wikitext two wikitext boxes and a diff, and asking them to resolve the conflict, sucks as a UX mechanism. But that's a bigger piece of work. [19:05:34] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Reedy; "check for null content in ApiParse.php" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29429 [19:05:43] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29429 [19:06:49] <ThirteenOranges> Sumanah: I see, so I should download that VM, and then download MediaWiki? [19:07:00] <chrismcmahon> ThirteenOranges: if you want experience installing, you might want to look at VirtualBox https://www.virtualbox.org/ (which runs on Windows) and then http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Installation [19:07:50] <sumanah> chrismcmahon: it seems like the Kuma stuff includes VB? [19:08:12] <ThirteenOranges> Isnt Virtual Box just to run differnt OS's? [19:08:35] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Catchable fatal error: Argument 1 passed to ApiParse::getSectionContent() must be an instance of Content, null given - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41277 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [19:08:36] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Draft selection integration needs UX rework - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40482 +design (10Andre Klapper) [19:08:37] <MatmaRex> anyone with merge rights on here? there's some docs to merge! https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/29422 [19:09:24] <chrismcmahon> ThirteenOranges: you'll probably find it easier to install Mediawiki on Linux than Windows [19:09:24] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Many SVG files have stopped rendering - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41174 +comment (10AnonMoos) [19:10:40] <ThirteenOranges> Even if you know practically nothing about Linux? I mean, I've used the OS before, but hardly really got into the command prompt things. [19:11:12] <sumanah> MatmaRex: let me look [19:11:24] <MatmaRex> nothing important, actually [19:11:32] <MatmaRex> but more docs is always fun [19:11:34] <sumanah> MatmaRex: as I've told you before, it's more effective to nag when you can say "and this is urgent because....." [19:11:52] <Reedy> Docs aren't urgent [19:11:53] <MatmaRex> uh, this time it isnt [19:11:54] <Reedy> See bug 1 [19:12:14] <sumanah> Reedy: bug 1 is descriptive, not prescriptive [19:12:18] <MatmaRex> sorry for wasting your time during this contenthandler mess, sumanah :) [19:12:45] <sumanah> MatmaRex: Apology accepted :) [19:12:52] * Reedy wonders what mess [19:12:58] <Vulpix> inb4 someone raises bug 1 priority to blocker [19:12:58] <sumanah> Dantman: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/29422 awaits your review. [19:13:01] <Krenair> There's a contenthandler mess? [19:13:14] <MatmaRex> wikis blowing up [19:13:18] <MatmaRex> nothing out of ordinary. :D [19:13:32] <Reedy> far from it [19:14:43] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Revision::getContentInternal() is not handling text load failure properly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41244 +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [19:14:52] <MatmaRex> allllright, just some fatals. but "wikis blowing up" sounds better. [19:14:53] <chrismcmahon> umm, wikis blowing up? [19:15:08] * MatmaRex hides  [19:15:16] <sumanah> we are nerds and we value clear and accurate communication [19:15:36] <chrismcmahon> MatmaRex: no problem, just surprised for a moment :) [19:16:15] <sumanah> chrismcmahon: in case you're looking for use cases & stuff to test for regarding Wikibooks & Extension:Collection, https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41255 is an example [19:18:43] <jbelcher> Hello—we recently migrated an old 0.15 wiki to 0.19.2, and I have one outstanding issue I haven't been able to track down. It seems the installation no longer honors protocol-less external links. For example, the Special:Version page just renders this link in plaintext: [//www.mediawiki.org/ MediaWiki] [19:20:50] <Dantman> ...last I checked 1.15.x did not support protocol-relative urls... you sure you're not /upgrading/ in the wrong direction? [19:22:58] <RoanKattouw> Sounds like either a partial upgrade (Special:Version is upgraded and trying to render the link, but some other component isn't upgraded and can't render it), or an overridden $wgUrlProtocols in your LocalSettings [19:23:12] <hashar> mm [19:23:22] <hashar> lets backport relative protocols url in 1.15 ? [19:23:34] <RoanKattouw> lol [19:23:41] <RoanKattouw> Have you seen the protocol relative URL changes? [19:23:44] <RoanKattouw> :) [19:23:47] <hashar> ;-]]]]]] [19:26:05] <Dantman> Bah... 1.15 needs to die a fiery death... That's like running IE 6... [19:26:21] <Dantman> ...except with less valid reasons [19:27:43] <wikibugs> 03(mod) [PostEdit] Invisible element with high z-index accidentally blocks links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41231 +comment (10Munaf Assaf) [19:27:52] <sumanah> hold on, jbelcher did you say 0.15 or 1.15? [19:28:21] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Wikimedia Shop is only available in English - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37797 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [19:28:39] <MatmaRex> Dantman: re: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/29422/2/includes/Skin.php [19:28:54] <MatmaRex> Dantman: what skins do shouldn't make a different to this function? [19:29:03] <MatmaRex> unless its results are somehow influenced by skins? [19:29:07] <jbelcher> @sumanah sorry 1.15 [19:29:10] <MatmaRex> (you said "Some skins set those special keys to true.") [19:29:32] <MatmaRex> on my test wiki, data for the special keys is an empty array [19:30:14] <wikibugs> 03(mod) jquery.makeCollapsible() very slow if many collapsible, initially collapsed elements - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34876 +performance (10Andre Klapper) [19:30:43] <Dantman> May be relevant to subskins... and it's a practice that may influence extensions. [19:30:56] <jbelcher> dantman RoanKattouw it was actually an overridden UrlProtocols. Adding // seems to have fixed the issue. Thanks for weighing in. [19:31:10] <MatmaRex> i'm not sure i understand what you are talking about right now :( [19:31:47] <MatmaRex> the value returned by buildSidebar(), if you ignore weird extensions, will always have an array as the portlet content. [19:32:00] <MatmaRex> it is documented on the hook page that extensions can use HTML strings here. [19:32:22] <MatmaRex> no other values seem to be allowed, and probably need not be handled [19:32:26] <MatmaRex> am i wrong? [19:32:53] <Dantman> eg: Someone may have an extension that pre-defines SEARCH, etc... to define the order outside of MediaWiki:Sidebar [19:33:25] <Dantman> ...those extensions aren't exactly, weird... that's an intentional feature [19:33:40] <MatmaRex> alright, so the content for the special keys is irrelevant, as long as they are present. [19:33:50] <Dantman> It's also supported by our standard skins and expected of most skins to support. [19:33:54] <MatmaRex> does the mere presence indicate that e.g. a SEARCH portlet should be displayed? [19:34:02] <MatmaRex> what is the vlue is null or false? [19:34:06] <MatmaRex> what i the value* [19:34:08] <MatmaRex> if* [19:34:09] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Many SVG files have stopped rendering - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41174 +comment (10Jesús Martínez Novo) [19:35:44] <Dantman> MatmaRex, no... there is no default for the built-in stuff. They are not defined. There's no way to say that something should not be displayed. [19:36:22] <MatmaRex> unset()? [19:36:27] <Dantman> MatmaRex, skins are generally expected to set the non-present built-ins to true and then foreach over the whole array to preserve order. [19:36:28] <MatmaRex> or remove in mediawiki:sidebar? [19:36:56] <MatmaRex> hm, this might make sense. [19:36:58] <Dantman> No. The built-ins are not required to be defined. [19:37:22] <Dantman> MatmaRex, we only added SEARCH, etc... explicitly to permit MediaWiki:Sidebar to control the order. [19:37:23] <MatmaRex> ah. hm. [19:37:28] <MatmaRex> okay, makes sense. [19:37:35] <MatmaRex> so the content for these can be basically anything? [19:37:48] <MatmaRex> (or the data, to use consistent terminology) [19:38:53] <Dantman> Yeah... but the general net end is `if ( special case ) { do something special } else if ( is array ) { output list of links } else { output as html }` [19:39:12] <MatmaRex> yeah, i get it. [19:39:14] <MatmaRex> let me update the comment... [19:39:32] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Documentation missing for parameter SMWResultPrinter::$maxRecursionDepth (limits #ask transclusion nesting depth) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41268 +comment (10Gregor Hagedorn) [19:40:13] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) LQT does two UPDATE call on every call to Title::isValidMoveOperation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41278 normal; MediaWiki extensions: LiquidThreads; (niklas.laxstrom) [19:40:13] <Dantman> ** Before that they were always outputted at the end. So we set unset things to true in the order we had before resulting in them being appended to the end if not defined. [19:40:19] <wikibugs> 03(mod) LQT does two UPDATE calls on every call to Title::isValidMoveOperation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41278 summary (10Niklas Laxström) [19:40:42] <Dantman> MatmaRex, also, I added BaseTemplate::getSidebar to simplify things... [19:41:42] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Matmarex; "(bug 1) document Skin::buildSidebar per own experience" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29422 [19:41:52] <MatmaRex> Dantman: ^ [19:42:06] <wikibugs> 03(mod) LQT does two UPDATE calls on every call to Title::isValidMoveOperation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41278 (10Niklas Laxström) [19:42:06] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Timeout when trying to move a translatable page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41138 (10Niklas Laxström) [19:42:09] <MatmaRex> yeah, but it makes sense for a skin to disable e.g. the LANGUAGES portlet [19:42:20] <MatmaRex> e.g. cologneblue does this, to display them on top of the article [19:42:28] <MatmaRex> and vector mostly kills SEARCH [19:42:35] <MatmaRex> (or at least the ordering) [19:43:20] <Krenair> Nikerabbit, is that LQT UPDATE bug a performance issue? [19:44:05] <Nikerabbit> Krenair: 6000 queries is an issue [19:44:10] <MatmaRex> Dantman: hm, yeah. it has no docs at all, maybe that's why i missed it [19:44:20] <Nikerabbit> Krenair: I managed to half the number with my changes [19:44:30] <MatmaRex> Dantman: i'll mention it in my comment, then, too [19:45:15] <Dantman> Naturally of course my idea of what to do with this sidebar stuff in the end is completely different from what I have in right now... [19:45:59] <wikibugs> 03(mod) LQT does two UPDATE calls on every call to Title::isValidMoveOperation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41278 +performance (10Krenair) [19:46:03] <jbelcher> Another outstanding issue we're also seeing: We've had instances of improper watch notification emails. A user named Maruss changed an article, and a watcher (djb) received an email saying that "User/Djb" has changed the article. [19:46:14] <jbelcher> Article history shows the proper edit author (Maruss) [19:47:20] <Dantman> MatmaRex, frankly search doesn't belong there... in the future I'd like to see all skins unsetting SEARCH. [19:47:34] <MatmaRex> frankly LANGUAGES doesn';t belong there either, imo :) [19:47:55] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Nikerabbit; "(bug 41138) Timeout when trying to move a translatable page" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29431 [19:47:55] <Dantman> Languages isn't the same [19:48:12] <MatmaRex> methinks languages should be displayed like categories are [19:48:16] <MatmaRex> but that's another thing [19:48:30] <MatmaRex> let me update this once again... [19:48:30] <Dantman> Search doesn't belong in the sidebar... it's a usability issue. [19:48:33] <Nikerabbit> methinks ULS and Wikidata will change the thing eventually anyway [19:49:00] <Dantman> If you have search in your sidebar... your skin is a failure. [19:49:05] <Dantman> design* [19:50:17] <Dantman> Also... two button search. [19:50:43] <Dantman> We need to fix those defaults... [19:50:52] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Matmarex; "(bug 1) document Skin::buildSidebar per own experience" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29422 [19:50:56] <MatmaRex> alright. [19:51:05] <Dantman> And eventually skins should just start ignoring those entirely and just output simple search. [19:53:43] * sumanah figures out where http://svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki/trunk/tools/code-utils/stylize.php landed in Git [19:54:54] <MatmaRex> Dantman: +1 it again, can you? :) https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/29422/ [19:55:22] <MatmaRex> ah poop, trailing whitespace. [19:56:13] <Krenair> sumanah, mediawiki/tools/code-utils [19:56:19] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Matmarex; "(bug 1) document Skin::buildSidebar per own experience" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29422 [19:56:29] <sumanah> I found it, yeah [19:56:35] <Krenair> https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?p=mediawiki/tools/code-utils.git;a=blob;f=stylize.php;hb=HEAD [19:56:37] <Krenair> :) [19:56:48] <sumanah> Krenair: does it also eliminate trailing whitespace? [19:57:37] <wikibugs> 03(mod) LQT does two UPDATE calls on every call to Title::isValidMoveOperation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41278 (10Nemo_bis) [19:57:38] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Bugs affecting translatewiki.net (errors from MediaWiki master) (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39480 (10Nemo_bis) [19:57:46] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Many SVG files have stopped rendering - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41174 +shell; +comment (10Andre Klapper) [19:57:46] <Krenair> sumanah, I don't know, sorry [20:02:22] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Added text disappears upon clicking "Show preview" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39003 summary; +comment (10Andre Klapper) [20:06:36] <MatmaRex> Dantman: when i'm here, feel free to ask me about the code here, i'm not checking my mail every minute :/ [20:07:36] <Dantman> No notification system? [20:07:37] <MatmaRex> Dantman: i used "HTML-safe" since "should be html escaped" is unclear whether the responsibility of escaping lies on the skin creator, or on someone else [20:07:56] <MatmaRex> i'm not reading the bot spam :/ [20:08:11] <Dantman> Heh, good old Gerrit [20:08:24] <MatmaRex> also, you left comments with empty review field [20:08:28] <MatmaRex> so irc wasnt notified [20:08:32] <Dantman> MatmaRex, ;) "HTML-safe" isn't any less confusing. [20:08:33] <MatmaRex> there's a bug for that... [20:08:39] <Dantman> Oh fün info... [20:09:07] <MatmaRex> !b 40020 [20:09:08] <wm-bot> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40020 [20:09:49] <MatmaRex> actually, clarification: that content is actually html-safe, right? [20:10:19] <Dantman> That's plaintext... [20:10:20] <Dantman> raw [20:10:33] <Dantman> ie: It's supposed to be passed though htmlspecialchars [20:10:34] <MatmaRex> so should the skin escape it or not? [20:10:50] <MatmaRex> alright. then i guess we have a bug in cologneblue... [20:11:05] <MatmaRex> "plain text, which is not HTML-escaped", then. sounds right? [20:11:44] <MatmaRex> or maybe "which should be escaped by the skin" [20:11:47] <MatmaRex> this sounds better. [20:11:50] <Dantman> mhmm [20:12:02] <Vulpix> I think https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21681 should be closed -it's an old bug, and now WFM with the provided testcase. What's the best resolution here? FIXED or WORKSFORME? Since I don't know where it was fixed... [20:12:12] <Dantman> The pattern is: `$msgObj = wfMessage( $msg ); echo htmlspecialchars( $msgObj->exists() ? $msgObj->text() : $msg );` [20:14:05] <Dantman> ;) which of course I simplify with getSidebar [20:14:33] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Matmarex; "(bug 1) document Skin::buildSidebar per own experience" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29422 [20:14:37] <MatmaRex> Dantman: ^ [20:14:42] <Dantman> Which just becomes (id, header, generated, content) [20:16:35] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Adamw; "BannerChooser class to manage CentralNotice allocation" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29268 [20:17:30] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: MarkTraceur; "Fix copy bug on client side" [wikimedia/orgchart] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29433 [20:17:37] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) Elements mysteriously empty in PPNode_DOM XML serialization - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/21681 +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [20:17:39] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: MarkTraceur; [wikimedia/orgchart] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29433 [20:17:45] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Adamw; "Skip the banner list loading request" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28235 [20:18:09] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Matmarex; "fix sidebar HTML escaping in CologneBlue" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29434 [20:18:13] <MatmaRex> Dantman: ^ [20:18:20] <MatmaRex> at least it's nothing major. [20:18:40] * marktraceur always wants to type "git pull --rabies origin master" [20:19:22] * MatmaRex hates typing "rebase", too. [20:19:22] <Dantman> MatmaRex, legacy skins are notorious for not properly html escaping message contents [20:19:36] <MatmaRex> i think it was this way before i started my rewrite, too. [20:19:48] <MatmaRex> but i can't be arsed to check now, eh [20:26:11] <wikibugs> 03(ASSIGNED) VisualEditor: Emptying paragraph in Firefox with backspace adds <br _moz_dirty> - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41223 (10James Forrester) [20:26:19] <wikibugs> 03(mod) [PostEdit] PostEdit doesn't work when referrer is deactivated - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41211 summary (10Fomafix) [20:27:44] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Mobile site rendering issues on www.wikipedia.org using Samsung phones - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39987 +comment (10Krinkle) [20:27:44] <wikibugs> 03(mod) External links no longer handled correctly in query templates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41275 +comment (10Markus Krötzsch) [20:29:30] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Add an OAI-PMH API for index page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38498 +comment (10Max Klein) [20:29:37] <wikibugs> 03(mod) VisualEditor: Overlapping text annotations fails - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37846 summary (10James Forrester) [20:29:46] <wikibugs> 03(mod) VisualEditor: Automatically nowiki'ed magic links are shown differently after saving&re-editing round trip - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37940 summary (10James Forrester) [20:33:18] <wikibugs> 03(mod) External links no longer handled correctly in query templates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41275 +comment (10Yaron Koren) [20:36:41] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: Mwalker; [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29268 [20:39:53] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Documentation missing for parameter SMWResultPrinter::$maxRecursionDepth (limits #ask transclusion nesting depth) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41268 +comment (10Markus Krötzsch) [20:41:42] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Bsitu; "Add some useful hooks to Echo extension" [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29436 [20:42:56] <wikibugs> 03(mod) External links no longer handled correctly in query templates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41275 +comment (10Markus Krötzsch) [20:45:44] <sumanah> A quick tip we were just passing around the office: ?uselang=qqx [20:45:59] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Cortado doesn't work on Mac with Oracle JRE 7 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41274 +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [20:46:00] <sumanah> e.g. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page?uselang=qqx [20:46:12] <sumanah> to show you the message keys instead of the localised text [20:46:26] <wikibugs> 03(mod) VisualEditor: Iceweasel seems to (wrongly?) trigger browser blacklist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41147 15enhancement->normal; summary (10James Forrester) [20:46:55] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: GWicke; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28770 [20:47:25] <wikibugs> 03(mod) "Powered by Mediawiki" and "a Wikimedia project" buttons and targets should be localizable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40465 minor->15enhancement; +comment (10Krinkle) [20:48:59] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Samsung phones: Search box overlaps language selection on mobile www.wikipedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39987 summary (10Andre Klapper) [20:49:05] <AaronSchulz> ^demon|lunch: that must be a big lunch [20:49:52] <wikibugs> 03(mod) External links no longer handled correctly in query templates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41275 +comment (10Yaron Koren) [20:50:29] <wikibugs> 03(ASSIGNED) VisualEditor: Strange behavior after overwriting nowiki block - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41204 +comment (10James Forrester) [20:50:34] <wikibugs> 03(ASSIGNED) VisualEditor: Cursor misplaced after clicking on nowiki block - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41205 +comment (10James Forrester) [20:51:33] <Krenair> sumanah, yeah that one should probably be more widely known [20:51:44] <Vulpix> sumanah: interesting and very useful! [20:51:47] <sumanah> YES [20:51:54] <sumanah> (to both) [20:51:57] <Vulpix> didn't know about that [20:52:15] <sumanah> if either of you want to start a tips thread on wikitech-l that includes that + one other useful thing you have learned about WM tech, that'd be neat [20:52:31] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Foxtrott; "Calendar view for the filtered format." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27831 [20:52:37] <wikibugs> 03(WONTFIX) Always support Firefox ESR versions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41245 +comment (10James Forrester) [20:52:51] <gerrit-wm> New review: IAlex; "New setting needs documentation on mediawiki.org" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22936 [20:53:08] <wikibugs> 03(mod) VisualEditor: Always support Firefox ESR versions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41245 summary (10James Forrester) [20:53:51] <gerrit-wm> New review: IAlex; "New setting needs documentation on mediawiki.org" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28473 [20:55:36] <gerrit-wm> New review: IAlex; "New setting needs documentation on mediawiki.org" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/13194 [20:56:59] <gerrit-wm> New review: IAlex; "New setting needs documentation on mediawiki.org" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24115 [20:58:25] <gerrit-wm> New review: IAlex; "New setting needs documentation on mediawiki.org" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23528 [20:59:52] <gerrit-wm> New review: IAlex; "New setting needs documentation on mediawiki.org" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27965 [20:59:52] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Lost edithistory for User:Tostarpadius@svwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40071 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [21:00:21] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) the green "reviewed" icon sometimes does not show upon page load - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41279 critical; MediaWiki extensions: PageTriage; (okeyes) [21:02:52] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Documentation missing for parameter SMWResultPrinter::$maxRecursionDepth (limits #ask transclusion nesting depth) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41268 +comment (10Gregor Hagedorn) [21:06:22] <wikibugs> 03(mod) [PostEdit] Popup is displayed again when returning to page after save - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41232 +patch-in-gerrit (10Andre Klapper) [21:06:42] <str4nd> wl [21:06:44] <str4nd> oopsie [21:08:44] <wikibugs> 14(DUP) Run QUnit tests also in other locales than English - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39801 +comment (10Krinkle) [21:08:44] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Qunit tests cannot be executed for multiple context languages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37321 +comment (10Krinkle) [21:11:32] <qgil> It looks like https://www.ohloh.net/p/mediawiki-agora is not the same project as https://github.com/wikimedia/agora ? [21:11:52] <qgil> Having two WMF projects called "Agora" is a bit weird [21:12:06] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) Section editing: In case of edit conflict, textarea now only shows section you edited → accidential content deleting - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41280 major; MediaWiki: Page editing; (aklapper) [21:12:14] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Ori.livneh; "PHP Scaffolding: modules, hooks, i18n + openTask" [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29437 [21:12:21] <MarGarina> I'm n00b at Mediawiki dev process. Posted a small change through gerrit a few days ago, and only one developer +1'd it. It cannot be accepted until one more developer reviews. What's common to do in this case? (Just wait, advocate this change in some mailing list, etc) [21:13:18] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Bsitu; "Integrate 'mark as reviewed' notification into pagetriage" [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29439 [21:13:33] <Platonides> MarGarina, bug some people to look at it [21:13:35] <qgil> MarGarina, you can start by posting the URL of the patch here :) [21:13:51] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Cortado doesn't work on Mac with Oracle JRE 7 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41274 +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [21:14:02] <gerrit-wm> New review: Brion VIBBER; "Docs updated: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgResponsiveImages" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24115 [21:14:06] <MarGarina> Alright, before bugging people here I wanted to see if it's acceptable :) Thanks [21:14:21] <MatmaRex> MarGarina: the pace of review is somewhat slow [21:14:25] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Bsitu; "Integrate 'mark as reviewed' notification into pagetriage" [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29439 [21:14:36] <MatmaRex> MarGarina: your best bet is finding someone who cares about the bit of code you're modifying :) [21:14:59] <MatmaRex> MarGarina: or somebody like sumanah, who cares about people in general :) [21:15:13] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Added text disappears upon clicking "Show preview" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39003 (10pss0331) [21:15:16] <wejq> How to rollback ALL edits from certain ip or since somewhen, nuke isn't working. [21:15:18] <MarGarina> Thanks for all your answers... alright [21:15:28] <sumanah> MarGarina: did you read the "get your commits reviewed" hints? [21:15:31] <MarGarina> Now I worry that too many people will try to review this if I post it here :) [21:15:31] <sumanah> MarGarina: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Code_review/Getting_reviews [21:15:33] <qgil> ref https://www.ohloh.net/p/mediawiki-agora never mind, it hasn't been updated in 5 years and maybe it was not even a WMF project [21:15:42] <wikibugs> 14(INVALID) Qunit tests cannot be executed for multiple context languages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37321 +comment (10Krinkle) [21:15:42] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Run QUnit tests also in other locales than English - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39801 (10Krinkle) [21:15:44] <MatmaRex> MarGarina: oh, that's something you never have to worry about in here :P [21:15:45] <MarGarina> sumanah: haven't! will check thanks [21:15:50] <thedj> brion: ? [21:15:57] <brion> thedj: wot? [21:16:00] <MarGarina> K, so that's the small changeset I was referring to (add robot META tag on the case when action=edit acts as "view source") https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/27867/ [21:16:06] <Platonides> MarGarina, don't worry, most people won't even bother to look at your link ;) [21:16:13] <MarGarina> heh [21:16:35] <Reedy> qgil: http://mediawiki-agora.svn.sourceforge.net/ [21:16:39] <Reedy> yeah.. [21:17:08] <sumanah> MatmaRex: thank you for your compliment :) [21:17:11] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Aude; "various cleanup and updating the code" [mediawiki/extensions/OpenStreetMapSlippyMap] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28667 [21:17:36] <MatmaRex> sumanah: 'tis the truth. [21:17:53] * MatmaRex afk [21:18:35] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: Krinkle; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29339 [21:20:53] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Adamw; "CentralNotice Banner Bucketing [FR2012 626]" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23307 [21:21:21] <MarGarina> sumanah: I love the developer-n00b documents on wiki, far better than other FOSS projects I've seen. Too bad I missed the ones about the review. Thanks. [21:21:56] <sumanah> HEARTWARMING IRC MESSAGE OF THE DAY [21:22:04] * sumanah is all happy fuzzy. Thank YOU, MarGarina! [21:23:11] <wikibugs> 03(mod) invalid xml node "4::tags" in API response - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40299 (10bsitu) [21:23:11] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) [PostEdit] PostEdit doesn't work when saving a redirect page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41253 (10Ori Livneh) [21:23:44] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) [PostEdit] Popup is displayed again when returning to page after save - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41232 (10Ori Livneh) [21:25:25] <sumanah> MarGarina: added a link to https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_become_a_MediaWiki_hacker#Pushing_for_review_through_Gerrit for future devs :) [21:26:16] <wikibugs> 03(ASSIGNED) Wikimedia Shop is only available in English - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37797 +comment (10James Alexander) [21:26:38] <wikibugs> 03(mod) [Postedit] Popup covers up monobook tabs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41240 +comment (10MZMcBride) [21:26:45] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Section editing: In case of edit conflict, textarea now only shows section you edited → accidential content deleting - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41280 (10Andre Klapper) [21:29:23] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Abuse filter: Increase 5% limit to allow filtering for very short posts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40672 summary; +comment (10Fabrice Florin) [21:32:08] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Show category links above the edit box - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/2679 +comment (10MZMcBride) [21:33:41] <gerrit-wm> New review: Adamw; "Mistake: SpecialBannerAllocation cannot list all bucket allocations yet" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23307 [21:40:12] <gerrit-wm> New review: Spage; "It looks good. Not allowing empty strings is a hassle for clients." [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29343 [21:45:31] <wikibugs> 03(mod) "Cologne Blue" Skin no longer allows Quick Bar to float left or right - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41246 +comment (10pirate) [21:46:29] <Brooke> Krenair: Mentioned you on wikimedia-l. [21:46:30] <qgil> Hi, anybody in charge / aware of the integration/* projects in Gerrit? [21:47:06] <Brooke> Hi Quim. [21:47:48] <qgil> hi Brooke , are you in the Integration team? [21:47:53] <Brooke> No. [21:47:57] <Brooke> I was just saying hello. [21:48:03] <qgil> hellow Brooke :) [21:48:04] <Brooke> I'm not sure there is an integration team. [21:48:17] <Brooke> You probably want ^demon (Chad) or hashar (Antoine), though. [21:48:32] <hashar> we are all on call right now :) [21:48:50] <qgil> ok thanks [21:49:01] <hashar> qgil: but I can multi task :-] [21:49:29] <hashar> qgil: and I am indeed more or less in charge of the git integration/* projects [21:50:00] <qgil> hi hashar I just need to know whether all / any / none of the projects under integration/* at Gerrit should be featured at Ohloh.net [21:50:12] <qgil> I can do the work, just tell me which projects [21:50:48] <hashar> qgil: oh [21:51:00] <qgil> hashar, basically I'm adding to Ohloh anything open source WMF is doing [21:51:00] <hashar> qgil: I am Antoine :-] Been in cc of your emails to ohloh hehe [21:51:15] <qgil> aaahhh, just learning who is who :) [21:51:17] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: MaxSem; "Update MobileFrontend to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29442 [21:51:26] <hashar> qgil: all of that is open source though it is probably of no interest to third parties. Let me review them for you [21:52:35] <hashar> qgil: integration/zuul is a copy from an OpenStack project. integration/testswarm is no more used, will be deleted. integration/jenkins-job-builder is a copy from an OpenStack project [21:52:57] <qgil> ok, that was a quick & effective answer hashar . Thanks! :) [21:52:59] <hashar> qgil: which leave us with integration/jenkins which is mostly there to keep a copy of some configuration files. [21:53:21] <hashar> though it has a few code in it, it is probably of no interest to others. Not sure it is worth adding it to ohloh [21:53:33] <qgil> meh [21:54:00] <chrismcmahon> qgil hashar I'm thinking integration/will probably be a lot more interesting a couple of months from now [21:54:02] <qgil> I'm going for the beef now. Maintainers can add their own stuff if they miss it :) [21:54:09] <hashar> chrismcmahon: definitely [21:54:31] <qgil> hi chrismcmahon :) [21:54:31] <hashar> once all the selenium stuff land in that is going to be hot area :-] [21:54:36] <chrismcmahon> qgil: our Jenkins is slightly crippled at the moment [21:54:45] <qgil> slightly [21:54:58] <chrismcmahon> long story :) [21:55:11] <hashar> chrismcmahon: I have rewrote a few jobs in labs already [21:55:27] <hashar> once zuul is deployed I will migrate the remaining ones [21:55:42] <chrismcmahon> yay \o/ [21:55:59] <qgil> next... labs/* :) can you help telling how relevant are these 4 labs projects in Gerrit for Ohloh? [21:57:20] <hashar> qgil: no idea :/ Maybe in #wikimedia-labs [21:57:26] <hashar> (yeah we have a ton of IRC channels hehe) [21:57:57] <chrismcmahon> qgil: of the five labs projects, only nagios-builder is actually in use I think [21:58:04] <chrismcmahon> and that's not very interesting [21:58:06] <qgil> I happen to be already idling in that one - thanks again hashar [21:58:38] <hashar> analytics team as some nice stuff too [21:58:47] <chrismcmahon> qgil: and qa/ is going to get some code this week but is empty right now. again, that'll become lots more interesting real soon now, but not just yet [21:59:29] <Brooke> Next year, in Jerusalem. [21:59:54] <chrismcmahon> Brooke: oh, much sooner than that [22:00:08] <Brooke> :-) [22:03:17] <MarGarina> sumanah: cool, this 'how to become a MediaWiki hacker' article was indeed my entry point. [22:03:54] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) Corrupted pdf has corrupted "size of this preview" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41281 normal; MediaWiki: File management; (M8R-udfkkf) [22:04:34] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: MaxSem; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29442 [22:05:34] <wikibugs> 03(mod) No IPv6 addresses on Wikimedia nameservers ns(0-2).wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41270 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [22:06:27] <sumanah> andre__: thank you for following up on that IPv6 issue [22:06:47] <andre__> sumanah, np. Looking at UploadWizard feedback now [22:06:55] <sumanah> Thank you andre__ [22:08:50] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) MobileFrontend overrides Special:Userlogin template on desktop view - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41282 blocker; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend; (brion) [22:14:06] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Android app should allow pinch and zoom - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34293 +comment (10Jon) [22:15:54] <qgil> Looking at the long list of operations/* projects in Gerrit, nothing looks like genuine or substantial enough to be featured at Ohloh as a WMF project. Ping me if you disagree. [22:20:41] <qgil> Is there a list of MediaWiki extensions maintained by the WMF? [22:21:16] <sumanah> qgil: not quite [22:21:21] <sumanah> qgil: there is a list of ones that are deployed on the WMF site [22:21:34] <qgil> sumanah, that would be a good start [22:21:51] <qgil> I gess checking the Version page, then [22:21:54] <sumanah> qgil: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:Extensions_used_on_Wikimedia [22:22:04] <qgil> ah, good [22:22:06] <sumanah> qgil: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?p=mediawiki/tools/release.git;a=blob;f=make-wmf-branch/default.conf [22:22:06] <qgil> thanks! [22:22:10] <sumanah> you are welcome! [22:22:14] <Reedy> Nah, Special:Version isn't much use [22:22:16] <Reedy> unless you visit multiple wikis [22:22:29] <Reedy> There are a handful more maintained by the WMF that aren't in that deploy list.. [22:22:32] <sumanah> qgil: if you are looking at a single wiki, then yes, Special:Version is helpful, but for your case you want to see the superset [22:23:01] <sumanah> qgil: also check out CommonSettings.php and InitialiseSettings.php in https://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/ [22:23:14] <Hakisho> hey, I'd like to keep my mw installation in git, but without extensions and images. These and LocalSwttings.php are linked outside. But .gitignore isn't setup to neglect these symlinks. [22:24:03] <qgil> sumanah, a "political" question: should all mediawiki/extensions/* in Gerrit be considered projects related to WMF at Ohloh? [22:24:03] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Reedy; "Add .gitreview and .gitignore" [mediawiki/extensions/Agora] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29446 [22:24:14] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Reedy; "Add .gitreview and .gitignore" [mediawiki/extensions/CreditsSource] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29447 [22:24:27] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Reedy; "Add .gitreview and .gitignore" [mediawiki/extensions/Josa] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29448 [22:24:34] <sumanah> qgil: I don't know. I think "semi" [22:24:41] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Reedy; "Add .gitreview and .gitignore" [mediawiki/extensions/MirrorTools] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29449 [22:24:44] <sumanah> we host them [22:24:49] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Reedy; "Add .gitreview and .gitignore" [mediawiki/extensions/Solarium] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29450 [22:24:58] <sumanah> but right now I think the best way is to limit ourselves to the deployed ones [22:25:45] <qgil> ok, I will do that. Anybody with enough interest can create a project for an extension at Ohloh, and propose it to be related to WMF [22:25:59] <qgil> than we can decide on requests as / if they come [22:28:17] <Krenair> <Brooke> Krenair: Mentioned you on wikimedia-l. [22:28:29] <Krenair> I don't subscribe to wikimedia-l (though I probably should) [22:28:45] <Krenair> But I found the post anyway [22:29:51] <sumanah> qgil: sounds good to me [22:30:33] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) optimize globalimagelinks query - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41283 normal; MediaWiki: Database; (afeldman) [22:30:47] <qgil> hashar, what about wikimedia/bugzilla/wikibugs.git [22:30:56] <hashar> qgil: that one nobody care about [22:31:11] <hashar> qgil: that the perl script that animate the wikibugs IRC bot which is in this channel [22:31:15] <qgil> :) [22:31:30] <hashar> qgil: been trying to get some updates to get deployed for months and months [22:31:36] <hashar> but that is really low priority to everyone :-] [22:31:44] <sumanah> andre__: ^ [22:31:45] <hashar> I only give it a poke once every two mondays [22:32:04] <qgil> hashar, but would it be useful for another project with another bugzilla ad chat room? [22:32:08] <hashar> qgil: anyway that is of no interest to outsiders I guess [22:32:34] <hashar> qgil: the recommended way is to use another software (supybot, a python IRC daemon which has a bugzilla plugin) [22:32:50] <hashar> qgil: so I think wikibugs can be considered abandoned :-] [22:33:11] <qgil> well ok, no ohloh for that one either. Thanks! [22:33:11] <MaxSem> 6 Fatal error: Call to a member function getTextForSummary() on a non-object in /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.21wmf2/includes/content/Conte [22:33:11] <MaxSem> ntHandler.php on line 859 [22:33:35] <MaxSem> any WikiData ppl around? [22:35:21] <sumanah> https://code.google.com/p/google-code-in/wiki/GCIMentorInformation2012 it really does not look likely that we are going to participate in Google Code-In because I cannot imagine we will get enough committed mentors [22:35:31] <sumanah> I will be sending out a note [22:36:56] <Juandev> nice, hole the day devs work hard [22:39:01] <andre__> sumanah: I'd be in for some GCI admin work in case there's enough mentors [22:39:47] <andre__> hashar, if wikibugs becomes abandoned (e.g. after a switch to supybot, not sure how serious plans are?) I'd love to get noticied to clean up its Bugzilla tickets [22:40:02] <sumanah> andre__: good to know [22:40:09] <hashar> andre__: there is no plan to switch to supybot [22:40:17] <andre__> hashar, pity [22:40:17] <hashar> nor to any software :-] [22:40:22] <hashar> so we are stuck with a spammy wikibugs [22:40:26] <hashar> I have personally ignored it [22:40:56] <hashar> we have some patches floating around to enhance it but nobody care so .. :-] [22:41:01] <andre__> sumanah: I guess I could even try to run it for WMF (though I don't assume I can book anything under 20% [yet]) [22:41:18] <hashar> (plus it is a lame perl script written X years ago that simply parse bugzilla email notifications hehe) [22:41:25] <andre__> hashar, how to track down who did maintain it once upon a time? [22:41:32] <andre__> ah, well. commit and see if it breaks then? :P [22:41:52] <sumanah> andre__: I very much doubt we will be able to get 21 mentors who will each commit to 8 hours per week [22:42:08] <hashar> andre__: the source used to be on https://wikitech.leuksman.com/index.php?title=Wikibugs :-] [22:42:10] <qgil> Are Katie Horn or Adam Wight in the room, to help figure out which fundraising/* projects can be featured in Ohloh? [22:42:21] <Reedy> K4-713: ^ [22:42:24] <hashar> andre__: more seriously, nobody is maintaining wikibugs [22:43:07] <andre__> sumanah: from personal experience I really doubt you'll need 8hrs/week. Rather 2 or 3hrs if thinks are really busy. [22:43:14] <sumanah> qgil: Katie is K4-713 and Adam is not here, I think; he is often awight or adamw [22:43:20] <sumanah> oh there's awight [22:43:45] <sumanah> andre__: if we do this I want round-the-clock coverage, which means 21 mentors each doing an 8-hr shift or the equivalent [22:43:50] <qgil> I should have deduced the K4-713 nick myself, sorry :D [22:43:51] <gerrit-wm> New review: Mwalker; "+1 until you look at comments; otherwise, yes it works and I'll plus two it once we talk :)" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master); V: 0 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28235 [22:44:04] <sumanah> no prob qgil - https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developers is slightly helpful [22:44:38] <K4-713> qgil: Hi! What are we talking about? [22:45:10] <qgil> Hi K4-713 , I'm trying to make sure that all relevant OSS projects from WMF are listed in Ohloh [22:45:35] <qgil> basically everything but mirrors, MWF specific config files and really trivial stuff [22:46:27] <qgil> K4-713, for instance fundraising/DonationEmailUnsubscribe looks really WMF specific and of little use out there [22:46:56] <qgil> K4-713, but fundraising/PaymentsListeners seems to have some beef [22:47:10] <K4-713> Ah, I see. Well, sadly, at this point in time, I can't think of much of it that isn't going to be specific to us. [22:47:56] <K4-713> We are working on making our code more universally useful... but that's not going to come to fruition for a while. [22:48:09] <qgil> K4-713, but that's fine [22:48:29] <qgil> I guess other people might be interested in the source code of a fundraising platform [22:48:51] <qgil> this is more to show the work we are doing, and also to promote it so perhaps we get more contributors [22:48:54] <K4-713> Yeah, definitely. Okay. [22:49:05] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) MobileFrontend overrides Special:Userlogin template on desktop view - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41282 +comment (10Arthur Richards) [22:49:09] <qgil> so... do I take the 4 projects at Gerrit? [22:49:15] <qgil> just some...? [22:49:28] <K4-713> Most of the fundraiser-specific action is currently in the DonationInterface extension. [22:50:21] <qgil> ok. fundraising/stomp has no description [22:50:30] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: MaxSem; "Update MobileFrontend to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29462 [22:50:36] <K4-713> Ha. I'm guessing there isn't any code in there yet either. [22:50:45] <qgil> while "wikimedia/fundraising/tools [22:50:46] <qgil> Random assortment of fundraising tools & scripts" sounds promising :) [22:50:59] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: MaxSem; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29462 [22:51:19] <sumanah> I didn't know our fundraising team was also the cast of Stomp [22:51:33] <sumanah> We are so multitalented [22:51:45] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Reedy; "Back out config table and related code" [mediawiki/core] (REL1_20) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29465 [22:51:50] <qgil> (but that tools repo is empty) [22:52:01] <K4-713> sumanah: we can destroy some pots and pans, for sure. :p [22:52:25] * qgil wonders why we have so many repos at Gerrit with just a .gitignore in tem [22:52:54] <K4-713> qgil: Yeah, we just got that one. I'd actually be surprised if wikimedia/fundraising/tools gets a lot of universally useful stuff... mostly that's just supposed to be a place we stash random scripts we end up writing to, for instance, clean up messes. [22:53:53] <qgil> ok K4-713, I think I will create a Wikimedia Fundraising project at Ohloh adding the repos of the extension and the 2 not-empty Gerrit projects. Good for now. [22:54:06] <K4-713> The stomp project, we need to include in a lot of disparate systems, so they can all talk to our queue. Eventually. [22:54:09] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Krinkle; "Standards: Fix global variables and pass JSHint." [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29466 [22:54:29] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) Make $wgAccountCreationThrottle efective on SUL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41284 normal; MediaWiki extensions: CentralAuth; (mybugs.mail) [22:55:16] <K4-713> qgil: We have a couple other extensions, but DonationInterface is slowly eating one of them, and the other one is CentralNotice and absolutely doesn't belong to us. We just use it like crazy. [22:55:32] <qgil> ok [22:55:44] <wikibugs> 03(mod) merge wikivoyage channels during migration - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41143 +comment (10Snowolf) [22:55:44] <K4-713> We do still have a lot of stuff... in svn, though. [22:55:59] <wikibugs> 03(mod) merge wikivoyage channels during migration - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41143 (10Snowolf) [22:55:59] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Increase $wgAccountCreationThrottle for Portuguese Wikibooks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27172 (10mybugs.mail) [22:56:56] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Reedy; "Back out config table and related code" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29467 [22:58:09] <K4-713> qgil: Most of the interesting stuff that's still in svn, are civicrm modules which could probably become more useful to the world, if they decided to ditch civi's frontend and have contribution data come in from different systems via a message queue. [22:58:41] <K4-713> But not a lot of entities would need to do that. [22:58:53] <qgil> K4-713, oh I'm not even looking at the svn. GitHub and Gerrit mess is enough :) [22:59:06] <K4-713> Works for me. [23:02:14] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Reedy; "* (bug 41267) mediawiki.action.edit.preview is not loaded" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29468 [23:02:18] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) foreachwiki on beta use all.dblist instead of all-wmflabs.dblist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41285 normal; Wikimedia Labs: deployment-prep (beta); (hashar) [23:02:19] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29468 [23:02:46] <wikibugs> 03(mod) foreachwiki on beta use all.dblist instead of all-wmflabs.dblist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41285 normal->15enhancement (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [23:04:33] <qgil> K4-713, there you go: https://www.ohloh.net/p/WMF-fundraising - some stats will show p as soon as the repos are scanned. Thank you for your help! [23:05:17] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Getting "Warn me when I leave an edit page with unsaved changes" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38022 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [23:07:39] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) MF beta: selecting an article with space in the title goes to non-canonical URL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41286 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend (Beta); (brion) [23:11:27] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) MF beta search post-selection ajax load doesn't trigger Hi-DPI/responsive JS - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41287 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend (Beta); (brion) [23:14:21] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Impossible to step from "Upload" to "Release right" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37073 major->04CRIT; +comment (10Andre Klapper) [23:14:58] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) MF beta high-DPI/responsive images don't trigger in sections beyond the summary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41288 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend (Beta); (brion) [23:15:18] <wikibugs> 03(mod) MF beta search post-selection ajax load doesn't trigger Hi-DPI/responsive JS - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41287 +comment (10Brion Vibber) [23:17:16] <K4-713> qgil: That's pretty cool. :) Thanks! [23:17:34] <qgil> A pleasure. :) [23:18:53] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Clicking "others" in Special:Version asks to download a file - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40641 +comment (10Krinkle) [23:19:19] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) * <li> hack renders incorrectly in Parsoid - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41289 normal; Parsoid: JS/General; (roan.kattouw) [23:19:36] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Reedy; "Adding 8 new extensions" [mediawiki/extensions] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29470 [23:20:02] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Add support for relative paths to mw.loader.load - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34036 (10mybugs.mail) [23:20:44] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) MF beta selecting 'Main Page' from search shows non-special-cased page display - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41290 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend (Beta); (brion) [23:20:59] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29470 [23:21:00] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Bsitu; "(bug 41279) the green "reviewed" icon sometimes doesn't work" [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29472 [23:21:19] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Links to COPYING and CREDITS on Special:Version should not trigger a download dialog - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40641 normal->15enhancement; summary; +comment (10Krinkle) [23:23:30] <gerrit-wm> New review: Hashar; "Thanks Hoo man for the tests :-]" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28479 [23:23:51] <wikibugs> 03(mod) the green "reviewed" icon sometimes does not show upon page load - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41279 (10bsitu) [23:25:36] <wikibugs> 03(mod) * <li> hack renders incorrectly in Parsoid - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41289 +comment (10Gabriel Wicke) [23:27:05] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Add support for relative paths to mw.loader.load - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34036 +comment (10Krinkle) [23:27:19] <gerrit-wm> New review: Hashar; "Seems fine as far as I am concerned." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28606 [23:27:29] <wikibugs> 03(mod) the green "reviewed" icon sometimes does not show upon page load - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41279 +comment (10Oliver Keyes) [23:30:06] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Reedy; "Remove CreditSource and PageCredit" [mediawiki/extensions] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29473 [23:30:35] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29473 [23:32:39] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Reedy; "Delete SocialLogin too" [mediawiki/extensions] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29474 [23:32:47] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29474 [23:34:40] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Links to COPYING and CREDITS on Special:Version should not trigger a download dialog - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40641 +comment (10Daniel Friesen) [23:37:41] <gerrit-wm> Change abandoned: Reedy; "https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/29450/" [mediawiki/extensions/Solarium] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28861 [23:39:14] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Links to COPYING and CREDITS on Special:Version should not trigger a download dialog - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40641 15enhancement->normal; +comment (10Hoo man) [23:39:19] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "Removed reference to * from docs." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29477 [23:41:32] <hoo> Dantman: Telling you guys want a subpage was the timing of the year, I've more or less just finished writing Special:Credits :P [23:41:40] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Bsitu; "Integrate 'mark as reviewed' notification into pagetriage" [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29439 [23:45:00] <gerrit-wm> Change merged: Kaldari; [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29472 [23:45:32] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Adamw; "Skip the banner list loading request" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28235 [23:46:56] <wikibugs> 03(mod) merge wikivoyage channels during migration - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41143 +comment (10Snowolf) [23:48:23] <gerrit-wm> New patchset: Bsitu; "Add some useful hooks to Echo extension" [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29436 [23:50:06] <wikibugs> 03(mod) merge wikivoyage channels during migration - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41143 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [23:50:32] <wikibugs> 03(mod) merge wikivoyage channels during migration - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41143 (10Andre Klapper) [23:55:52] <Reedy> 20 new repos... [23:56:19] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) Add checkbox to submit user-agent info via built-in feedback form - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41291 enhancement; MediaWiki: JavaScript; (erik) [23:56:25] <Reedy> look marktraceur! I'm not spamming the channel! [23:58:39] <Reedy> 36 [23:59:18] <wikibugs> 03(mod) merge wikivoyage channels during migration - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41143 +comment (10Krenair) [23:59:57] <marktraceur> Reedy: Great!