[00:00:34] DanielFriesen: do you understand what http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_talk:VBulletin#includes.2Ftemplates.2FUserlogin.php is trying to do? [00:00:38] (I'm lost) [00:00:43] also now seeing two login links [00:02:28] faceface, Looks like it's trying to change the login form to point to vb.'s login page. [00:02:47] right, but how come it fails? [00:04:49] New review: Krinkle; "It is indeed language specific, however it isn't design." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27039 [00:05:06] New patchset: MaxSem; "Update MobileFrontend to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29732 [00:07:27] New review: Krinkle; "Missing "{", invalid CSS." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27039 [00:07:31] 03(mod) Click tracking no associating valid rev_id with some edit_success events. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41336 major->normal (10Fabrice Florin) [00:10:04] Change merged: MaxSem; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29732 [00:13:59] DanielFriesen: so when should I set login and when anonlogin? [00:14:02] setting both causes two links to appear [00:14:14] so I need to conditionaLly set one or tother [00:14:31] 'varies by your ipinheader config.'? [00:15:39] 03(mod) Metrics Study 6: Article Feedback Edit Conversions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40775 (10Fabrice Florin) [00:16:37] faceface, You should only be changing the href of whatever link already exists. [00:16:39] Change merged: Bsitu; [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29710 [00:17:10] DanielFriesen: tried that ... is it like this "if(defined($personal_urls['anonlogin'])){ ... " [00:17:20] because it didn't seem to work :( [00:17:35] faceface, That's because defined checks constants [00:17:37] oh [00:17:51] exists? [00:17:51] Use isset [00:17:51] * faceface googles [00:17:51] ahh [00:18:12] New patchset: MaxSem; "Update MobileFrontend to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf1) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29733 [00:18:42] DanielFriesen: nice :-D [00:18:48] works [00:18:49] Change merged: MaxSem; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf1) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29733 [00:19:21] of course, would be better if the MW login page sent stuff to VBull, but thats too much for today ;-) [00:19:34] now that this seems to work I caN finally update this wiki [00:19:51] 03(mod) Revision::getContentInternal() is not handling text load failure properly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41244 +comment (10Liangent) [00:25:57] 03(mod) Click tracking no associating valid rev_id with some edit_success events. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41336 +comment (10Dario Taraborelli) [00:29:39] so is it OK to keep using svn switch? [00:29:56] is REL_19 same as on git? [00:31:30] "keep"? [00:31:44] 1.20 won't exist in svn [00:31:47] ah [00:31:52] perfect [00:31:58] I only need 1.19 [00:31:58] ;-P [00:32:12] Also, any security updates for 1.19 won't go into svn either [00:32:27] ~la la la la la~ [00:32:29] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?p=mediawiki/core.git;a=log;h=refs/heads/REL1_19 [00:32:48] 03(mod) Click tracking no associating valid rev_id with some edit_success events. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41336 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [00:32:58] svn really-switch? [00:33:30] Why are you using SVN, faceface? [00:33:39] rm -f $(which svn) [00:33:47] consider svn dead in regards to mediawiki releases these days [00:34:08] ok [00:34:22] Krenair: because I started installing mw before it was hosted in Git? [00:34:28] at work we use cvs... [00:34:36] Yeah but we switched in march [00:34:36] ~la la la la la~ [00:34:36] haha [00:34:51] Krenair: I don't have time to work on wikis? [00:34:52] faceface: Have you heard of TFS? It's the industry standard [00:35:00] TFS? [00:35:12] team foundation server [00:35:14] ooh [00:35:19] Reedy: evil... that is just pure evil... [00:35:20] I'll defo recommend that at work [00:36:02] "Team Foundation Server (commonly abbreviated to TFS) is a Microsoft product " uh oh [00:36:05] I said, cvs is decades old, they said... it aint broke, I said... horses aint broke, but I still drive [00:36:21] they said, shut up [00:36:59] i swear that phrase could be the tory party motto [00:37:27] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Context menu appears in the wrong place in IE10 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41233 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [00:37:30] so... I git clone, dump my current dir on top and go from there? [00:37:34] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Context menu appears in the wrong place in IE10 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41233 (10Andre Klapper) [00:38:02] ug... need to audit changes vs REL_16 [00:41:03] http://blog.redwerks.org/2012/09/28/using-git-to-manage-and-upgrade-a-wiki-with-modifications-to-core/ [00:43:01] made PHP segfault, woohoo :D [00:43:28] Somebody's having fun breaking things... must be a developer ;) [00:43:29] you make it sound like a challenge hoo [00:43:33] 03(mod) Special:Version points to wrong version on te.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36271 summary; +comment (10Andre Klapper) [00:45:18] 03(mod) Special:Version points to wrong version on te.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36271 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [00:46:00] 03(mod) Unclear how to submit feature requests. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/3659 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [00:46:36] DanielFriesen: ty [00:47:19] p858snake|l: I even bother to write an example... [00:47:19] 03(mod) [partner] YouTube needs to update its Wikipedia license statement - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30311 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [00:47:19] * botherd [00:47:28] 03(mod) Connectivity interferes with saved articles (saved pages do not work offline) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40013 +comment (10Tomasz Finc) [00:47:34] DanielFriesen: I forgot how powerfull git is [00:47:42] just init and add a remote... ahhh [00:50:10] 03(mod) [partner] YouTube needs to update its Wikipedia license statement - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30311 +comment (10Daniel Zahn) [00:51:46] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "[JobQueue] Added support for retrying jobs when runners die." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29736 [00:54:50] 03(mod) Ways to reduce edit conflicts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41338 normal->15enhancement; +comment (10Andre Klapper) [00:58:15] thanks for help all [00:58:17] night [00:59:26] 03(NEW) Saving settings form desktop browser sends me to desktop site - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41339 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend; (arichards) [01:01:32] 03(NEW) ResourceLoader environment throwing exception due to lack of wgPageContentLanguage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41340 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend (Beta); (jrobson) [01:02:52] 03(mod) ResourceLoader environment throwing exception due to lack of wgPageContentLanguage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41340 +comment (10Krinkle) [01:03:10] 03(mod) ResourceLoader environment throwing exception due to lack of mw.config and mw.user - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41340 summary (10Krinkle) [01:03:38] 03(NEW) Gadgets get loaded on older versions of MediaWiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41341 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend (Beta); (jrobson) [01:04:52] jdlrobson: how do I trigger "beta" mode? [01:04:59] or is that done by url parameter? [01:05:05] Krinkle: via settings page [01:05:07] which you can now find in the left menu [01:05:45] ok, hm.. redirects me to desktop site.. [01:05:50] anyway, thx [01:09:09] 03(mod) Special:Version points to wrong version on te.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36271 normal->trivial (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [01:11:00] 03(mod) MobileFrontend: Implement ResourceLoader (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41340 summary; +comment (10Krinkle) [01:21:02] New patchset: Krinkle; "ajaxify watch links on SpecialUnwatchedpages." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/6143 [01:24:43] 03(mod) ?action=purge on the file description page no longer regenerates thumbnails - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41130 +comment (10Aaron Schulz) [01:25:06] Is is just me... or is our login form messed up and would be better of looking like this http://i.imgur.com/kDDUF.png [01:25:21] 03(mod) Sync .git objects as well so that Special:Version displays the correct git hash - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36271 trivial->15enhancement; summary; +comment (10Krinkle) [01:26:08] 03(mod) Cleanup Math-related code from core - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41299 (10Andre Klapper) [01:26:09] 03(mod) Code quality issues (and other stuff that sucks) (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/700 (10Andre Klapper) [01:27:09] New patchset: Hoo man; "(bug 7851) Added AJAX patrolling (mediawiki.page.patrol.ajax)" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26440 [01:27:55] New review: Hoo man; "Rebased and removed spaces before colons." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26440 [01:28:18] I'd really appreciate it, if anyone would take a look at that? ;) [01:35:08] 03(mod) Let LocalisationUpdate update zh conversion table from trunk - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34034 +comment (10Finjon Kiang) [01:37:20] hi, i need to create my extension over MediaWiki, but i would like to use some functions of the others extensions ... Anyone knows that is it possible? [01:38:06] yes [01:38:12] how? [01:39:45] you should simply be able to call those functions, provided the extension is loaded [01:40:45] but imagine that i would like to use part of the function, and not only .. [01:41:00] not all * [01:41:35] You copy, paste and modify it [01:41:35] uh... you can't call a function and only have part of it run [01:41:43] Same as any other code [01:41:45] so yeah, copy/paste it, make sure you look at licensing restrictions [01:42:16] e.g. if the extension that you are copying from is viral, you'll need to license your ext under a compatible license (for example, no picking BSD or MIT if you're copying from GPL) [01:42:48] oh yes, i understand .. [01:43:48] in this case, i think that my problem resolved [01:44:17] thanks a lot, good work [01:46:06] 03(mod) Enable Captcha for anonymous users on Portuguese Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/8208 (10mybugs.mail) [01:47:42] New review: Hoo man; "Also new messages need to be added to maintenance/language/messages.inc and you might want to show a..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/6143 [02:05:27] New review: Spage; "I thought I had core approval, but I guess I'm not in wmf-deployment group, so no +2." [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf2) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29713 [02:09:27] New review: Krinkle; "Backports to branches and forwarding submodules to commits that are already reviewed shouldn't need ..." [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf2); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29713 [02:10:33] New review: Krinkle; "I mean... the commits in E3Experiments are made by a person and merged by another person. The code i..." [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf2); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29713 [02:12:22] 03(mod) [PostEdit] Invisible element with high z-index accidentally blocks links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41231 +comment (10MZMcBride) [02:13:47] 03(mod) [PostEdit] Invisible element with high z-index accidentally blocks links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41231 +comment (10MZMcBride) [02:18:39] 03(mod) Uploading file with a slash in name removes all letters preceding it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41190 +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [02:21:49] New review: Krinkle; "a few more minor points." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/6143 [02:26:48] New patchset: Madman; "(bug 38534) Add LQT status to action=info" [mediawiki/extensions/LiquidThreads] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26970 [02:26:58] 03(mod) PostEdit: Invisible .postedit-container makes 50%-of-width area next to the notification unclickable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41231 summary; +comment (10Krinkle) [02:27:52] New review: Madman; "Since nothing had been done to this change for a while, thought I'd help out by addressing Siebrand'..." [mediawiki/extensions/LiquidThreads] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26970 [02:37:27] 03(mod) Review and deploy TimedMediaHandler extension (timed media handler) to Wikimedia wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27699 +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [02:39:19] 03(mod) Add page views graph(s) to MediaWiki's info action - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41327 +comment (10MZMcBride) [02:47:05] 03(mod) PostEdit: Invisible .postedit-container makes 50%-of-width area next to the notification unclickable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41231 +comment (10MZMcBride) [02:50:38] Brooke: wouldn't that be fixed just by using the messaging system that DanielFriesen or whoever it was introduced which afaik is live on the wmf wikis? [02:51:04] I think that new system still blocks part of the UI for a bit. [02:51:15] But probably generally, yes. [02:51:15] I'm not sure why they didn't use that. [02:51:18] StevenW would know. [02:54:19] Gah... need a reverse blame [02:56:29] git blame --reverse? [02:57:27] O_O It exists?!!! [02:57:41] Oh well... I'll try that next time... [02:57:42] yes [02:58:23] git has a lot of features, I'll give it that at least [02:59:25] In any case it's nice to see https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/9242/ gone [02:59:39] The .deps themselves that is. [03:01:57] Heh... that's fun... 4092 commits have been made since I last touched my skin rewrite project [03:02:39] fixing the merge conflicts will be fun [03:03:12] ^_^ there were only two [03:03:28] New review: Spage; "The experiment to see whether users complete Community Portal open tasks depends on PostEdit setting..." [mediawiki/extensions/PostEdit] (master); V: 1 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29724 [03:05:20] An AutoLoader conflict because sites added a section around where I added includes/skin/ so I had to just do a merge both [03:05:48] And a conflict around the .deps.php removal because I changed `if ( !defined( 'MW_COMPILED' ) ) {` to `if ( !defined( 'MW_COMPILED' ) && $skinName[0] != '{' ) {`. [03:05:48] pretty good going for a rewrite [03:06:07] I assume you didn't actually rewrite very much, you just added new files [03:06:14] Yeah [03:07:31] lol [03:08:07] It seems I did make some changes to Title.php Html.php OutputPage.php and SkinTemplate.php and none of them conflicted. [03:09:18] Though I guess those are less touched spots. [03:09:32] ^_^ And I need to update the "Deprecated 1.20" stuff. [03:13:37] TimStarling, I have two different attempts at the same parser... (Actually it's 3.5 attempts, but the .peg based ones were a failure) Want to tell me what technique was best? [03:13:54] ((Parser for a custom skin template syntax)) [03:15:44] I've never done a project with a parser generator, I just write them by hand [03:16:22] my only contact with parser generators has been reading docs and patching ones written by other people [03:16:35] !branchpoints [03:16:35] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Branch_points [03:16:41] I wrote one by hand with one technique... tried to use peg in two different ways for another attempt. Then went back to hand with a different technique. [03:17:27] what sort of syntax is it? [03:18:37] TimStarling, The example is a little old, but something like this https://gist.github.com/1239039/#file_vector.tpl [03:19:08] so lisp-like [03:19:42] lol [03:20:16] you know I did an experimental skin with a lisp-like template syntax for MW that was very similar [03:20:23] with single braces, like that [03:20:44] I wrote both an interpreter and a compiler to PHP which could be run through eval() [03:21:27] and it supported dependency analysis so any constants could be converted to string literals [03:21:41] with adjacent concatenated literals combined [03:23:04] The parser in question parses the whole just looking at it now, it looks like I used a recursive descent parser to convert to a VM-style representation [03:24:57] then a generator to convert from the opcode list to PHP [03:27:18] recursive descent parsers are easy to write by hand [03:27:49] This was my first attempt: https://github.com/dantman/mediawiki-core/blob/cf373c4ef7e4f17e5dc9ad1e234bc3249dffd345/includes/skin/SkinTemplateParser.php#L433 [03:27:50] they're not very fast, but you can use them as a starting point for optimisation [03:27:59] And this is the second: https://gist.github.com/3943466#L204 [03:28:14] ...well... 3rd or 4th [03:28:26] .peg was a mess [03:29:24] what was the problem with those two? [03:30:58] The one in the gist is fine I think... I'm going to eventually finish up the unfinished parts and use it. [03:32:47] the first one looks like it would probably work [03:33:19] the second one, well, usually when I see arrays of regexes in a parser, something is going wrong [03:33:36] maybe it is just a false alarm [03:34:10] but regexes have their limitations, so you don't want to incorporate them too deeply into the structure in case you need to swap one out for something else [03:35:22] The first one I forgot I did manage to implement the curly functionality inside of arguments. I thought that was missing. [03:35:50] It felt hard to follow and hard to extend. [03:36:38] do $digitGroupingPattern and $separatorTransformTable fallback to the $fallback language? [03:36:58] there is a tradeoff between performance and elegance [03:37:13] micro-optimisation in PHP is mostly about removing function calls [03:37:30] but I can't beat that point too much without being hypocritical [03:38:51] because even when I'm writing code that really really needs to be fast, I still have a limit to how ugly I can make the code [03:38:56] TimStarling, As for arrays-of-regexps you talking about ->rule? That's actually just a place to store regexps of non-trivial things like attribute names and tag names so I can cleanly change them in one place later. [03:39:19] Though I guess I might as well performance test the both of these. [03:39:48] yes, $this->rule, but it's probably OK [03:39:50] after having read the rest of it [03:40:53] in the second one, your consume() function is a hotspot and it is slow [03:42:30] if I were you, I'd split out a consumeString() and consumeRegex() so that you're not using preg_match() for single-character string searches [03:42:51] i.e. consumeString() just with strpos() [03:43:26] Mhmm I considered that. I just went with regexp so I could finish the thing within the day. [03:43:28] and then in consumeRegex(), inline makeRegex() and reMatch [03:44:19] and get rid of the accessors in the Match class, just use directory property access [03:44:39] same with Regexp [03:47:31] or use reference parameters... just thinking of my recent forays into the PHP VM and what I learnt there [03:47:51] Oh right... now I remember what was so wrong with .peg besides the mess. [03:48:58] That PHP peg implementation had absolutely terrible error handling... rather it didn't have any at all and it would have been absolutely impossible to use it to output intuitive messages to the user telling them where there syntax is wrong. [03:49:19] that sucks [03:50:02] And looking over how peg worked I couldn't see how a peg implementation could possibly tell the difference between "I just backtracked because I need to parse using a different rule" and "I just backtracked because there is a syntax error to report" [03:52:05] I think VMs are probably a good way to go [03:52:41] you don't really want to be parsing a template every time there is a request [03:54:02] For now I'm still thinking of caching the parsed object tree rather than compiling php then caching that. [03:54:58] you can think of a VM representation as being one step further than a parsed object tree [03:55:18] one step further away from the source, and one step closer to the output [03:55:54] it is faster to execute than a parse tree, and easier to optimise by transformation [03:55:54] 03(mod) "Purge user page everytime when you login or logout" option should be done away with - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40603 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [03:56:39] 03(UNCONFIRMED) download interrupted - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40935 (10Andre Klapper) [04:08:04] 03(mod) Uploading file with a slash in name removes all letters preceding it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41190 +comment (10Brad Jorsch) [04:08:05] New patchset: Mwjames; "SRF 1.8, PHP/JS Boilerplate" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29740 [04:11:00] New patchset: Krinkle; "PostEdit: Fix security issue, fix IE6-8 exception, clean up." [mediawiki/extensions/PostEdit] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29724 [04:11:12] 03(mod) If login required to read, IE7 throws JS error when not logged in - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/21325 (10Andre Klapper) [04:11:16] New review: Krinkle; "Fix mw.config wgPostEdit." [mediawiki/extensions/PostEdit] (master); V: 0 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29724 [04:12:30] 03(UNCONFIRMED) Enchant Suggestion mode does not work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34707 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [04:13:45] 03(mod) If the install exists $wgDBmysql5 should be set based on the existing collation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/15851 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [04:14:07] 03(mod) FileSearch does not work with MySQL due to "LOWER(img_name)" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27300 summary; +comment (10Andre Klapper) [04:14:09] 03(mod) Deploy extension Memento on Wikipedia sites - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34778 +comment (10Dario Taraborelli) [04:15:17] New review: Mwjames; "It is just a boilerplate with both PHP and JS modules (a straight forward and a namespace class impl..." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29740 [04:23:22] New patchset: Krinkle; "Add GENDER support in messaging." [mediawiki/extensions/OnlineStatusBar] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29100 [04:23:36] New review: Krinkle; "Address inline comments." [mediawiki/extensions/OnlineStatusBar] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29100 [04:24:20] New patchset: Krinkle; "Add GENDER support in messaging." [mediawiki/extensions/OnlineStatusBar] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29100 [04:25:18] New review: Krinkle; "Divide .jshintrc in logical sections predef, warnings, tolerate, environment and legacy (as on http:..." [mediawiki/extensions/OnlineStatusBar] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29100 [04:25:54] New review: Krinkle; "* Set change topic from (undefined) to js-gender" [mediawiki/extensions/OnlineStatusBar] (master); V: 0 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29100 [04:27:43] New patchset: Krinkle; "Add GENDER support in messaging." [mediawiki/extensions/OnlineStatusBar] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29100 [04:28:08] New review: Krinkle; "* Restore block comment" [mediawiki/extensions/OnlineStatusBar] (master); V: 0 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29100 [04:30:45] Does anyone know who removed wgAllowRealName in 1.21wmf2? [04:31:23] It was a deprecated function, but fully removing it seems to have added a real name field back to the account creation form [04:32:43] Looks like https://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/highlight.php?file=CommonSettings.php needs updating. [04:33:35] New review: Santhosh; "I did not test. code looks good." [mediawiki/extensions/OnlineStatusBar] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29100 [04:40:55] StevenW: its replaced by a new name iirc [04:41:53] well a name" that emcompassed many things [04:41:58] Change merged: Ori.livneh; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29713 [04:43:09] p858snake|l afaik it updated to a new preferences variable [04:43:31] but that may not be referenced by/work for account creation, only the real name field in user prefs [04:43:37] 14(INVALID) Universal language selector and keyboard - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32539 +comment (10Santhosh Thottingal) [04:43:58] hence why it seems real name was added back in as a field in english wikipedia [04:45:04] StevenW, no userlogin takes the preferences setting into account [04:45:12] if( !in_array( 'realname', $wgHiddenPrefs ) ) { [04:46:02] Then why am I seeing real name as an anon then? [04:47:20] Because CommonSettings.php is using the old config name. [04:55:28] 03(mod) Harvesting problems for header values in combination with some kind of wikitext - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39973 +comment (10AleXXw) [04:56:59] New patchset: Santhosh; "tests: rm duplicate code in language classes" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29695 [04:58:03] New review: Santhosh; "Some minor formatting, whitespace issues fixed." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29695 [05:35:00] Can I create a mediawiki page from a standalone php? [05:37:10] I'm not sure what you're asking. [05:37:25] You seem to be missing a noun. A standalone PHP what? [05:37:47] I am generating a unique id page in mediawiki , but with a standalone php [05:38:01] generate.php [05:38:06] this would make a wiki page [05:38:17] and fill it with some default data. [05:38:57] Okay. [05:39:05] Well, there's a fairly robust API. [05:39:05] !api [05:39:05] The MediaWiki API provides direct, high-level access to the data contained in the MediaWiki databases. Client programs should be able to use the API to login, get data, and post changes. Find out more at < https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API >. For client libraries in various languages, see < https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Client_Code >. [05:39:11] I'd recommend using that. [05:39:20] Though if you're coding in PHP, a MediaWiki PHP extension might make sense as well. [05:39:45] my extentions calls a standalone php [05:39:49] 03(mod) ULS: Pointer style target should match click target - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41314 +comment (10Santhosh Thottingal) [05:39:56] extension^ [05:40:24] then the standalone php will write to the DB directly would be nice [05:40:36] Don't do that. [05:40:36] will read up on the api [05:40:36] Use the API. [05:40:37] yes [05:40:45] Writing directly to the database is a bad idea. [05:40:51] It's big and referential. [05:40:59] The programming interfaces are there for a reason. [05:41:48] Brooke: generally what about including WebStart.php, compared to making a http request to localhost? [05:42:21] The latter would be FauxRequest or something? [05:42:35] I'm not sure I understand the question exactly. [05:42:55] Brooke: when outside mw code there is no class FauxRequest... [05:43:23] If you're outside MediaWiki code, you should use the API. [05:43:23] 03(mod) Babel boxes use obsolete attributes cellspacing and cellpadding (in HTML5) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39681 +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [05:43:23] and I guess if I can use FauxRequest, I can use other classes as well [05:43:43] Presumably. [05:43:58] 03(FIXED) Don't index pages generated by DoubleWiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31726 +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [05:44:01] Brooke: but use api in what way? [05:44:45] New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Revert "Remove deprecated $wgAllowRealName"" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29742 [05:44:55] I guess over HTTP. [05:44:58] Including WebStart.php seems silly. [05:45:45] 03(FIXED) ProxyTools "wfGetIP()" cannot handle CSV values of $_SERVER['REMOTE_ADDR'] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/26585 +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [05:46:09] including WebStart.php seems much cheaper however [05:46:40] I've never heard of that being used as an API. [05:46:48] I don't believe it was designed as such. [05:47:12] we use WebStart.php for the www portals [05:47:18] www.wikipedia.org etc. [05:47:34] New review: Daniel Friesen; "Note that Ic8ddcb7f is probably all it'll take to fix this on WMF." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29742 [05:47:34] 03(mod) Revision::getContentInternal() is not handling text load failure properly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41244 +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [05:47:38] 03(mod) TextContent expects a string in the constructor. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41303 +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [05:48:18] 03(FIXED) Section editing: In case of edit conflict, textarea now only shows section you edited → accidential content deleting - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41280 +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [05:48:43] TimStarling: that is only for the skining and stuff isn't it? not editing/inserting data like being discussed? [05:48:58] 03(mod) Revision::getContentInternal() is not handling text load failure properly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41244 +comment (10Liangent) [05:49:32] just for retreiving data from MW [05:55:15] Change abandoned: Ori.livneh; "Daniel Friesen's fix (Ic8ddcb7f ) is better." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29742 [06:04:50] TimStarling: Any idea why LocalSettings.php isn't here: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?p=operations/mediawiki-config.git;a=tree ? [06:05:16] Err, I mean https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?p=operations/mediawiki-config.git;a=tree;f=wmf-config;h=a99794328029ed80c6badbac17c5b4619b68de03;hb=HEAD [06:05:30] I see InitialiseSettings.php and CommonSettings.php, but LocalSettings.php. [06:05:38] it's in $IP [06:06:02] as MW requires [06:06:28] I'm not sure I follow. I thought Wikimedia's LocalSettings.php was like a one-line require_once(). [06:06:41] I think I've seen it beofre. [06:06:41] before [06:06:59] yes, but it can't be in wmf-config because that's not $IP [06:08:08] it seems to be added to each version's working copy [06:08:23] probably with whatever script it is that sets up those directories [06:08:38] Hmm. All right. [06:08:40] I think it used to be in the deployment branches, but maybe that was not convenient anymore [06:09:34] yeah, it's in 1.19wmf1 [06:09:50] hmm, no it's not [06:13:29] Looking good! https://www.ohloh.net/orgs/wikimedia [06:20:16] 03(mod) Request for enabling new typing scheme for Odia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40913 +comment (10Subhashish Panigrahi) [06:21:09] 03(mod) ULS: Pointer style target should match click target - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41314 +comment (10Siebrand) [06:21:57] 03(FIXED) Babel boxes use obsolete attributes cellspacing and cellpadding (in HTML5) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39681 +comment (10Siebrand) [06:26:59] No [06:34:03] 03(mod) Revision::getContentInternal() is not handling text load failure properly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41244 +comment (10Aude) [06:35:47] 03(FIXED) ULS: Pointer style target should match click target - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41314 +comment (10Santhosh Thottingal) [06:44:49] 03(mod) LdapAuthentication: Strict Standards - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/23248 +comment (10Raimond Spekking) [06:49:43] New patchset: Raimond Spekking; "[Echo] Register new special page alias file" [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29743 [06:49:49] New review: Siebrand; "Thanks for the fixes and comments, Timo and Santhosh." [mediawiki/extensions/OnlineStatusBar] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29100 [06:49:49] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/OnlineStatusBar] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29100 [06:50:57] Change merged: Raimond Spekking; [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29743 [07:05:58] New review: Ori.livneh; "Superlative work; thanks." [mediawiki/extensions/PostEdit] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29724 [07:05:58] Change merged: Ori.livneh; [mediawiki/extensions/PostEdit] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29724 [07:07:21] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28914 [07:08:03] New patchset: Raimond Spekking; "Consistency tweaks" [mediawiki/extensions/Agora] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29744 [07:08:11] Change abandoned: Ori.livneh; "Obsoleted by Iaf36c8f9" [mediawiki/extensions/PostEdit] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29699 [07:08:25] Change abandoned: Ori.livneh; "Obsoleted by Iaf36c8f9" [mediawiki/extensions/PostEdit] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29694 [07:16:06] New patchset: Raimond Spekking; "Consistency tweak: Monobook -> MonoBook" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29745 [07:39:15] New review: Spage; "padding or border!" [mediawiki/extensions/PostEdit] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29694 [07:48:13] 03(FIXED) Work around out of memory issue when exporting large message groups - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35168 +comment (10Siebrand) [07:48:14] 03(mod) Bugs affecting translatewiki.net (errors from MediaWiki master) (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39480 (10Siebrand) [07:51:42] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/Drafts] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29640 [08:03:13] Change merged: Nikerabbit; [mediawiki/extensions/LiquidThreads] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29342 [08:03:29] 03(FIXED) Continue editing link is missing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41300 +comment (10denny vrandecic) [08:07:39] 03(NEW) IE 8 changes suggestions list when moving focus to the suggestion list - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41342 minor; MediaWiki: Search; (hartman.wiki) [08:10:16] New review: Nikerabbit; "When can/should extensions start adding these classes?" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf2); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29641 [08:16:41] 03(mod) ?action=purge on the file description page no longer regenerates thumbnails - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41130 +comment (10TMg) [08:18:31] New patchset: Siebrand; "Correct documentation for EditFilter hook paramter" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29747 [08:18:53] New patchset: Siebrand; "Correct documentation for EditFilter hook parameter" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29747 [08:18:54] New patchset: Raimond Spekking; "[EventLogging] Register extension" [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29748 [08:19:27] Change merged: Raimond Spekking; [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29748 [08:19:41] 03(mod) SQLStore3 update.php error: duplicate key in smw_stats - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41269 +comment (10Nischay Nahata) [08:20:39] New review: Henning Snater; ""languagesearch" and "opensearch" use "search" as parameter name for the search string. I guess wbse..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29558 [08:26:06] 03(mod) Cite errors add userlanguage messages into content (which uses content language) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39094 summary (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [08:32:25] New review: Henning Snater; "Probably, the API response should also contain the original search text for that slow API responses ..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29558 [08:36:06] New patchset: Siebrand; "Maintenance for Drafts extension" [mediawiki/extensions/Drafts] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29749 [08:37:34] New patchset: Siebrand; "Fix autonyms" [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29750 [08:37:46] Change merged: Nikerabbit; [mediawiki/extensions/Agora] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29744 [08:40:57] 03(NEW) Deleted images still appear - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41343 normal; MediaWiki: File management; (aude.wiki) [08:41:40] 03(mod) Deleted images still appear - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41343 normal->04CRIT (10Aude) [08:47:18] 03(mod) Deleted images still appear - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41343 +comment (10p858snake) [08:50:17] 03(mod) Deleted images still appear - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41343 +comment (10Aude) [08:56:55] New patchset: Raimond Spekking; "[Agora] Register new extension" [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29751 [08:57:19] Change merged: Raimond Spekking; [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29751 [09:00:19] New review: Siebrand; "Thanks, Pau." [translatewiki] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29750 [09:00:20] Change merged: Siebrand; [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29750 [09:01:54] New patchset: Hashar; "tests: rm duplicate code in language classes" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29695 [09:02:51] New patchset: Hashar; "test: detects parent setUp not being called" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29506 [09:03:01] New review: Hashar; "Rebased on latest patchset of 1dbf20d tests: rm duplicate code in language classes" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29506 [09:03:50] Change merged: Matthias Mullie; [mediawiki/extensions/BreadCrumbs] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27776 [09:04:16] New patchset: Platonides; "Add new optional messages added this morning." [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29752 [09:08:19] New review: John Erling Blad; "Not sure if Jens is extending this one or write his own changeset, I'll ask later today." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29558 [09:09:52] New patchset: Nischayn22; "Fix to bug 41269" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29753 [09:10:34] 03(mod) SQLStore3 update.php error: duplicate key in smw_stats - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41269 +comment (10Nischay Nahata) [09:10:44] Change merged: Matthias Mullie; [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29637 [09:20:55] 03(NEW) Undefined variable: propertyTableHash in SMW_Sql3SmwIds.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41344 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; (nischayn22) [09:23:02] 03(mod) ObjectComparer::dataEquals needs more tests - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40975 (10Lydia Pintscher) [09:31:09] New review: John Erling Blad; "Change I6ea1f848: New function getFromTerm that searches over both aliases and labels." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29558 [09:31:53] New review: John Erling Blad; "Change I60d74f34: (Bug 40392) First commit of wbsearchentities" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25006 [09:32:21] New patchset: jan; "Add types to LogFormatter" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29279 [09:32:23] New patchset: Nischayn22; "Fix to bug 41269" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29753 [09:35:16] New patchset: Nischayn22; "[Draft] Class CustomTexts for handling the same." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticWatchlist] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29755 [09:35:51] Change merged: Markus Kroetzsch; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29340 [09:37:04] New review: John Erling Blad; "The changeset misses the continuation and also does not work as it should with searches depending on..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25006 [09:37:05] New patchset: Markus Kroetzsch; "Fixed Bug 41344" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29756 [09:38:37] New review: Markus Kroetzsch; "This wrongly caches the array instead of its serialization." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master); V: -1 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29756 [09:38:51] New patchset: jan; "Add types to LogFormatter" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29279 [09:41:13] New patchset: Markus Kroetzsch; "Fixed Bug 41344" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29756 [09:41:41] Change merged: Markus Kroetzsch; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29756 [09:42:20] 03(FIXED) Undefined variable: propertyTableHash in SMW_Sql3SmwIds.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41344 +comment (10Markus Krötzsch) [09:42:50] 03(mod) ?action=purge on the file description page no longer regenerates thumbnails - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41130 +comment (10Mark Bergsma) [09:43:39] New review: jan; "Add some other types in PS 4 + PS 5." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29279 [09:48:09] New patchset: Daniel Werner; "Change EditableValue constructor to take interfaces" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29612 [09:54:07] hey hey! [09:54:12] can I somehow protect the main space? [09:54:24] so that users can only edit the other name spaces? [09:58:11] !wg NamespaceProtection | mjau^ [09:58:12] mjau^: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgNamespaceProtection [10:02:11] New review: John Erling Blad; "It seems like the search is casesensitive due to how the table is configured." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25006 [10:03:09] New review: John Erling Blad; "C.5.5.1. Case Sensitivity in String Searches" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25006 [10:03:42] New review: Markus Kroetzsch; "I could not verify this due to another bug. The stats update fails on my machine since exceptions ca..." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29753 [10:04:42] Change abandoned: John Erling Blad; "Manually copied to Change I6ea1f848: New function getFromTerm that searches over both aliases and la..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29558 [10:12:59] New review: Daniel Werner; "beautiful" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29557 [10:12:59] Change merged: Daniel Werner; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29557 [10:14:08] 03(mod) #set broken for multiple property values (1.8 alpha) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36309 +comment (10Neill Mitchell) [10:16:14] Can I safely use 1.7.1 or should I upgradE? [10:16:36] Are there known security holes in 1.7.1? [10:17:18] 1.7.1 or 1.17.1? [10:17:32] actually, there would be a yes to both of those [10:17:40] 1.7.1 [10:17:46] hence why we are now on 1.19.2 [10:18:21] I have troubles with upgrading, hence I'm asking is it necessary [10:18:48] My database is probably too big, and web upgrade times out, I'll have to download it and perform it on local computer [10:19:10] 1.7 was obsolete half way through 2007 [10:19:56] apart from security improvements (not just security fixes) the numerous feature enhancements and inclusions... [10:20:24] Doesn't sound like you have a very good host if that's your only alternative to the web installer... (Which until a few versions ago didn't even exist) [10:20:40] It's a simple shared web hosting, with no ssh access. [10:20:55] Ok, I'll perform that upgrade on local computer. [10:23:36] 03(mod) Added text disappears upon clicking "Show preview" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39003 +comment (10Ruslan) [10:26:37] New patchset: Amire80; "(bug 31986) Add user namespase aliases for all genders and varieties" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29761 [10:26:47] New patchset: Nischayn22; "Fix to bug 41269" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29753 [10:32:42] 03(ASSIGNED) Fix gender in user namespaces for Portuguese wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31986 -patch -patch-need-review +patch-in-gerrit; +comment (10Amir E. Aharoni) [10:37:56] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "also allow navigation using pageup/down" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29762 [10:38:09] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29762 [10:44:30] Change merged: Henning Snater; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29612 [10:46:40] 03(mod) Polyglot: Missing title for language links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30545 +comment (10Fomafix) [10:58:26] 03(NEW) add info if langlink is stored at repository or local - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41345 major; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataClient; (bugreporter) [11:00:52] 03(NEW) HTML validation: Attribute srcset not allowed on element img at this point.v - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41346 normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (ed.palmer) [11:06:44] 03(NEW) add repository url path - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41347 major; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataClient; (bugreporter) [11:12:43] 03(mod) IE 8 changes suggestions list when moving focus to the suggestion list - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41342 +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [11:22:13] 03(NEW) Hindi Wikiprojects (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41348 normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (Siddhartha.Ghai) [11:23:11] https://dl.dropbox.com/u/55128914/Attachments%20Email%20Xchat/Wiki%20Administrators%27%20Tutorial%20Guide.zip [11:24:10] 03(mod) Hindi Wikiprojects (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41348 (10Siddhartha Ghai) [11:24:10] 03(mod) Tracking bug (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/2007 (10Siddhartha Ghai) [11:24:11] 03(mod) Increase line height in headings for indic languages at multilingual projects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35430 (10Siddhartha Ghai) [11:24:13] 03(mod) Schwa syncope rule in devanagari transliteration - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35990 (10Siddhartha Ghai) [11:24:18] 03(mod) Word-ending links do not work in or/hi, update linktrail rules - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36966 (10Siddhartha Ghai) [11:24:18] 03(mod) Typing ओं is not possible in hindi transliteration - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38238 (10Siddhartha Ghai) [11:24:18] 03(mod) Number of members doesn't appear in [[Special:WantedCategories]] with uselang hi on hi-wp - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38615 (10Siddhartha Ghai) [11:28:39] New patchset: Jens Ohlig; "(Bug 40391, Bug 40392) New function getFromTerm that searches over both aliases and labels." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25006 [11:31:54] 03(mod) Hindi Wikiprojects (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41348 (10Siddhartha Ghai) [11:31:54] 03(mod) PDF generation does not support Complex Script Wikis (e.g. Indic languages) and needs to be re-written - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28206 (10Siddhartha Ghai) [11:31:54] 03(mod) Enable specific extensions on Hindi Wikipedia (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29823 (10Siddhartha Ghai) [11:31:54] 03(mod) Search suggestion highlighting does not respect grapheme clusters causing wrong rendering for Arabic and Indic scripts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33242 (10Siddhartha Ghai) [11:31:54] 03(mod) Enable Narayam at Hindi Wiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41015 (10Siddhartha Ghai) [11:32:59] 03(mod) Hindi Wikiprojects (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41348 (10Siddhartha Ghai) [11:33:00] 03(mod) Increase line height in headings for indic languages at multilingual projects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35430 (10Siddhartha Ghai) [11:35:32] Change merged: IAlex; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29745 [11:37:00] Change merged: IAlex; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29747 [11:39:46] New patchset: Jens Ohlig; "(Bug 40391, Bug 40392) New function getFromTerm that searches over both aliases and labels." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25006 [11:41:28] New review: Jens Ohlig; "Any reason why this is stuck? It looks like a pretty fundamental thing to me..." [mediawiki/extensions/Widgets] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24387 [11:45:38] New patchset: Siebrand; "Deglobalization in EditPage.php" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27164 [11:45:52] New patchset: Matthias Mullie; "Refactor clicktracking in AFT, making it suck less" [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29766 [11:46:03] 03(mod) Seeking in video files (range requests) does not work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40779 +comment (10Mark Bergsma) [11:46:15] Change abandoned: Matthias Mullie; "More elaborate change here: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/29766/" [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29687 [11:47:53] 03(mod) Click tracking no associating valid rev_id with some edit_success events. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41336 +comment (10Matthias Mullie) [11:49:02] New patchset: J; "Bug 41304 - Allow X-Content-Duration to be set" [mediawiki/extensions/SwiftCloudFiles] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29767 [11:50:04] New patchset: Siebrand; "Deglobalization in EditPage.php" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27164 [11:51:16] 03(NEW) Cologneblue missing search suggestions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41349 normal; MediaWiki: Interface; (hartman.wiki) [11:52:10] Change merged: Raimond Spekking; [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29752 [11:52:11] New patchset: J; "Bug 41304 - Add X-Content-Duration headers" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29769 [11:53:49] New code comment: Raymond; Please see https://translatewiki.net/wiki/Thread:Support/Optional_messages_(5)/reply_(2); [11:54:03] 03(mod) Hindi Wikiprojects (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41348 (10Siddhartha Ghai) [11:54:05] 03(mod) Bolnagri keymap for Narayam - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35559 (10Siddhartha Ghai) [11:54:10] 03(mod) Please set X-Content-Duration on OGG Video files - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41304 +comment (10Jan Gerber) [11:55:44] 03(FIXED) Missing escaping in search-as-you-type suggestions of Monobook skin - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33963 +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [11:56:04] New review: Siebrand; "PS3 fixes the many merge conflicts that happened after ContentHandler was merged and the whole file ..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27164 [11:59:54] 03(mod) AFT5 Metrics Study 6: Enable Signup CTA 4 to track account creation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41180 +comment (10Matthias Mullie) [12:15:47] New patchset: Nischayn22; "Added support for custom texts." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticWatchlist] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28400 [12:16:04] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "(Bug 40391) Make the parameter names more like the rest of the api" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29770 [12:18:47] New patchset: Nischayn22; "Fix to bug 41269" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29753 [12:19:22] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "(Bug 40391) Make the parameter names more like the rest of the api" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29770 [12:21:32] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "(Bug 40391) Make the parameter names more like the rest of the api" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29770 [12:22:56] 03(mod) add info if langlink is stored at repository or local - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41345 major->15enhancement (10merl) [12:22:56] 03(mod) Deploy wikidata.org with the Wikidata repository - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40000 (10merl) [12:23:03] 03(mod) add repository url path - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41347 major->15enhancement (10merl) [12:23:04] 03(mod) Deploy wikidata.org with the Wikidata repository - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40000 (10merl) [12:25:02] Change abandoned: Hashar; "Might poke this bug again next time I run the scribunto tests on my Mac." [mediawiki/extensions/Scribunto] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23639 [12:43:08] New patchset: Henning Snater; "Refactoring of option handling" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29609 [12:49:04] 03(mod) Scrolling in languages when one of the three areas is selected makes the selection jump - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39224 +comment (10Santhosh Thottingal) [12:50:17] Change merged: Daniel Werner; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29609 [12:52:49] 03(FIXED) Scrolling in languages when one of the three areas is selected makes the selection jump - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39224 -patch-need-review ; +comment (10Santhosh Thottingal) [12:58:49] 03(mod) Unsupported operand types at Language.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41194 +comment (10Nemo_bis) [13:00:37] hi! [13:00:39] can I somehow delete a user? [13:00:55] it's like it's missing.. but I'm the sysop. [13:01:11] do I really need an extension to do that? [13:01:16] New patchset: Amire80; "(bug 18277) Add GENDER to abusefilter-diff-version" [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29776 [13:01:43] New review: Nikerabbit; "I'm afraid you need to update all callers too to be non-static." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29695 [13:02:31] 03(ASSIGNED) Message Abusefilter-diff-version needs date/time separated, and GENDER support - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/18277 +patch-in-gerrit; +comment (10Amir E. Aharoni) [13:08:31] mjau^: yes, you do. [13:10:47] New patchset: Hoo man; "(bug 36053) Login returnto doesn't work if title isn't in the URI" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29729 [13:11:02] New review: Hoo man; "Per Parent5446's comments" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29729 [13:15:25] 03(mod) Wikidata merge mistakes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41298 +comment (10Daniel Kinzler) [13:15:45] Yaron: oh.. ok. thx. [13:16:27] New patchset: Hashar; "TestContext a self setting up context for lazy one" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15810 [13:17:24] New review: Hashar; "Patchset 3 creates the lang, outputpage, user instances. Added more tests." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15810 [13:20:55] New patchset: Hashar; "TestContext a self setting up context for lazy one" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15810 [13:21:16] 03(mod) Hindi Wikiprojects (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41348 (10Siddhartha Ghai) [13:21:16] New patchset: Jens Ohlig; "(Bug 40391, Bug 40392) New function getFromTerm that searches over both aliases and labels." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25006 [13:21:24] 03(mod) Interwiki lists sort in phonetic, site-defined order - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/2867 (10Siddhartha Ghai) [13:21:33] New review: Hashar; "Rebased." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15810 [13:22:06] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "(Bug 41298) partial fix: re-apply I9441a277" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29778 [13:25:11] 03(mod) Fixup whitespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36654 +comment (10Jan Gerber) [13:26:08] 03(FIXED) SQL error for transcode row insertion - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40808 +comment (10Jan Gerber) [13:26:43] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29776 [13:27:48] 03(mod) Hindi Wikiprojects (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41348 +tracking (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [13:28:12] 03(FIXED) UploadFromStash->appendToUploadFile should update size/sha1 in database - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30180 +comment (10Jan Gerber) [13:30:10] 03(mod) Hindi Wikiprojects (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41348 (10Siddhartha Ghai) [13:30:12] 03(mod) Put the shorturl in a better place: current design is extremely ugly and confusing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38863 (10Siddhartha Ghai) [13:30:31] New review: Siebrand; "I think we're over engineering on at least 8 counts here. Please remove those." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29761 [13:30:53] Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh... who touched RequestContext when I wasn't looking?! [13:30:59] WikiPage should not have a setter! [13:31:29] This crap is going to end up with WikiPage and Title being different. [13:32:32] New review: John Erling Blad; "Lets try this!" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25006 [13:32:32] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25006 [13:33:07] I think I've seen something like https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35411 in flaggedrevs at hi-wp [13:35:53] yup http://hi.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A4%A6%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%B2%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%B2%E0%A5%80 [13:36:03] new bug or same? [13:36:15] New review: Amire80; "Siebrand, you basically say that all the names with -o(a) are over-engineering. I don't really care ..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29761 [13:36:50] New patchset: Hashar; "[JobQueue] README file for job queue classes." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29625 [13:37:20] New review: Hashar; "Added doxygen configuration" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29625 [13:38:03] uh, it dissapeared after appearing [13:38:10] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "(Bug 41214) Make Autocomment more general and reusable" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29295 [13:40:01] 03(mod) Outright remove of duplicate short URL under title - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41252 +comment (10Yuvi Panda) [13:40:44] ok, html text appears briefly in flagged revs bottom notice, then dissappears. [13:41:15] 03(mod) Special:LinkSearch cannot search with a port in the url - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40588 +patch-in-gerrit; +comment (10MrBlueSky) [13:41:15] AFAIK, that can only be if flaggedrevs is using js to parse the wikitext as html and display it. [13:41:20] that is BAD. [13:41:54] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "(Bug 41298) partial fix: re-applying Id7b331e1b" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29780 [13:42:11] 03(mod) Unsupported operand types at Language.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41194 +comment (10Niklas Laxström) [13:42:59] 03(mod) Outright remove of duplicate short URL under title - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41252 +comment (10Nemo_bis) [13:43:19] 03(mod) Fix gender in user namespaces for Portuguese wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31986 +comment (10Siebrand) [13:44:39] 03(mod) Outright remove of duplicate short URL under title - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41252 +comment (10Yuvi Panda) [13:46:19] New review: Daniel Friesen; ":/ stupid gerrit. There was a new commit and I went and reviewed the wrong one leading to my inline ..." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15810 [13:50:54] yuvipand1: Agree, nobody looks at the toolbox. It'll be great if that mockup can be implemented [13:51:53] 03(mod) Outright remove of duplicate short URL under title - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41252 +comment (10Nemo_bis) [13:53:13] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29295 [13:53:39] New patchset: Hoo man; "(Bug 41298) partial fix: re-applying Id7b331e1b" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29780 [13:54:21] New review: Hoo man; "Fixed empty line... ready to merge" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29780 [13:55:04] New review: Hashar; "Please leave the files under includes/content just like they are in the main /include. This way the..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28794 [13:57:56] 03(mod) HTML-like tags show up in log - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/15347 +comment (10Siddhartha Ghai) [13:58:20] 04(REOPENED) HTML-like tags show up in log - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/15347 (10Siddhartha Ghai) [13:59:50] New patchset: Hashar; "Use ParserOptions::newFromUserAndLang in tests" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26895 [14:00:15] New review: Hashar; "Rebased, fixed some basic conflicts." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26895 [14:01:08] 03(FIXED) Message Abusefilter-diff-version needs date/time separated, and GENDER support - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/18277 +comment (10Siebrand) [14:02:43] New review: Aude; "@hashar: I am a bit confused. The core content handler classes are in a subdirectory of includes. I..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28794 [14:03:54] New review: Hashar; "@aude you are correct. I mixed up the renaming direction :-]]]" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28794 [14:05:13] 03(mod) HTML-like tags show up in log - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/15347 +comment (10Siddhartha Ghai) [14:06:25] 03(mod) Hindi Wikiprojects (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41348 (10Siddhartha Ghai) [14:06:25] 03(mod) HTML-like tags show up in log - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/15347 (10Siddhartha Ghai) [14:06:55] New patchset: Matthias Mullie; "maintenance" [mediawiki/extensions/TocTree] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29781 [14:08:18] New patchset: Nischayn22; "Making a depreceated code public" [mediawiki/extensions/Maps] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29782 [14:09:21] 03(mod) Outright remove of duplicate short URL under title - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41252 +comment (10Yuvi Panda) [14:12:58] 03(mod) Outright remove of duplicate short URL under title - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41252 +comment (10Daniel Friesen) [14:14:37] Sid-G: do comment on the bug, to keep all discussion in one place [14:14:56] k [14:17:53] 03(mod) HTML-like tags show up in log - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/15347 +comment (10Siddhartha Ghai) [14:18:24] 03(mod) Outright remove of duplicate short URL under title - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41252 +comment (10Nemo_bis) [14:24:31] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "I think this fix is a bad idea. The text in question being null or false should ALWAYS be checked an..." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29597 [14:26:36] yuvipand1: done, should be saving now [14:26:41] 03(mod) Outright remove of duplicate short URL under title - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41252 +comment (10Siddhartha Ghai) [14:29:47] yuvipand1: btw, we dont want to be implementing fb and twitter icons; lest the orkuters cry foul [14:30:30] besides, if we need a sharer, we'll just implement AddThis ;) [14:30:38] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "(Bug 40391) Make the parameter names more like the rest of the api" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29770 [14:34:46] New patchset: Daniel Friesen; "It should not be possible for a RequestContext's WikiPage and Title to be different." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29785 [14:35:00] Sid-G, Actually we won't be implementing any... including definitely definitely not AddThis [14:35:49] hmm, I thought if communities pestered WMF, it'd be willing [14:35:49] doesn't really matter though [14:36:53] New review: Aude; "Agree that there are likely better fixes to these issues, however there are places in the code (e.g...." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29597 [14:37:29] Sid-G, No... it would violate the privacy policy. [14:37:55] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "(Bug 41298) partial fix: re-apply Id4d5504a" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29788 [14:37:55] New patchset: Daniel Werner; "Fixed bug which made it possible to enter site-links with same site ID" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29789 [14:38:21] And would make security minded devs cringe. [14:38:50] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "(Bug 40391) Make the parameter names more like the rest of the api" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29770 [14:38:50] * Sid-G goes to read the privacy policy [14:39:07] New review: Liangent; "If I read correctly, your code is turning null to '' before sending it to DifferenceEngine::setText()." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29597 [14:39:46] there is nothing wrong with share icons, as long as we don't use the FB and Twitter javascript ones. [14:40:15] ;) addthis requires direct script execution to AddThis' servers. [14:40:28] yes, so you can't use addthis. [14:40:33] but you can reimplement addthis. [14:40:50] it's not that hard. you just need a significant amount of time. [14:41:10] i'm rather surprised actually that there is still no 'open' addthis variant. [14:41:13] 03(mod) The newline added to a template, magic word, variable, or parser function that returns line-start wikicode formatting (*#:; ) causes unexpected parsing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/12974 +comment (10Mormegil) [14:41:38] * DanielFriesen actually has as page on an idea for more interactive privacy-minded share feature. [14:42:54] 03(mod) Wikidata merge mistakes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41298 +comment (10Daniel Kinzler) [14:44:02] New patchset: MF-Warburg; "Adding support for Wikivoyage test projects on Incubator" [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaIncubator] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29791 [14:45:55] 03(mod) Should we keep the "model" and "format" params in EditPage? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41315 +comment (10Daniel Kinzler) [14:46:59] 03(mod) No handler for model 'w'' registered in $wgContentHandlers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41309 +comment (10Daniel Kinzler) [14:50:02] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "Removing this capability will cause any page using a non-default content model to be silently re-int..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29616 [14:51:28] 03(NEW) Project namespace (i.e. "Wikipedia") translation done wrong - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41350 critical; MediaWiki: API; (pannj_aab) [14:54:06] 03(mod) Project namespace (i.e. "Wikipedia") translation done wrong - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41350 (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [14:54:37] 03(mod) Project namespace (i.e. "Wikipedia") translation done wrong - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41350 04CRIT->normal (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [14:58:39] 03(FIXED) Remove articles matching SQL LIKE pattern - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/5835 +comment (10Mormegil) [15:00:08] 03(mod) "Pattern" field is too user unfriendly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35783 +comment (10Mormegil) [15:00:45] 03(mod) Project namespace (i.e. "Wikipedia") translation done wrong - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41350 (10pannj_aab) [15:03:43] 03(mod) Project namespace (i.e. "Wikipedia") translation done wrong - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41350 +comment (10Platonides) [15:03:48] New patchset: Nikerabbit; "Rewritten $wgAdaptiveMessageCache" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29793 [15:05:41] 03(mod) "Pattern" field is too user unfriendly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35783 +comment (10Liangent) [15:06:17] 03(FIXED) No success message for Nuke - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/16155 +comment (10Mormegil) [15:07:05] Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29778 [15:13:40] New review: Aude; "okay, so can we make ContentHandler::getForTitle( $this->mTitle ) retrieve the right model and forma..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29616 [15:15:11] 03(mod) Display the categories on the mobile site - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22660 summary (10Amir E. Aharoni) [15:15:28] New patchset: Daniel Friesen; "It should not be possible for a RequestContext's WikiPage and Title to be different." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29785 [15:16:24] New patchset: Nikerabbit; "(bug 31619) Use genderized groups on Special:UserCredentialsPage" [mediawiki/extensions/ConfirmAccount] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29794 [15:16:39] New patchset: Siebrand; "Add profiling for Threads::synchroniseArticleData()" [mediawiki/extensions/LiquidThreads] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29795 [15:16:40] New patchset: Siebrand; "Reduce master load from Title::isValidMoveOperation when possible" [mediawiki/extensions/LiquidThreads] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29796 [15:17:23] 03(NEW) Nuke ignores page moves - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41351 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Nuke; (mormegil) [15:17:34] New patchset: Siebrand; "Add profiling for Threads::synchroniseArticleData()" [mediawiki/extensions/LiquidThreads] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29795 [15:17:34] New patchset: Siebrand; "Reduce master load from Title::isValidMoveOperation when possible" [mediawiki/extensions/LiquidThreads] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29796 [15:18:34] 03(mod) Moving a LiquidThreads post relies on mouse - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/25037 summary (10Amir E. Aharoni) [15:18:34] 03(mod) LQT does two UPDATE calls on every call to Title::isValidMoveOperation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41278 +patch-in-gerrit; +comment (10Siebrand) [15:18:40] New patchset: Daniel Friesen; "It should not be possible for a RequestContext's WikiPage and Title to be different." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29785 [15:18:40] New review: Nikerabbit; "Note: I did not verify this myself." [mediawiki/extensions/ConfirmAccount] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29794 [15:18:57] 03(mod) Outright remove of duplicate short URL under title - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41252 +comment (10Yuvi Panda) [15:19:04] 03(mod) Update call of User::getGroupMember on Special:UserCredentialsPage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31619 +comment (10Niklas Laxström) [15:24:17] 03(mod) LQT does two UPDATE calls on every call to Title::isValidMoveOperation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41278 +comment (10Siebrand) [15:25:36] 03(mod) wbgetclaims - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41164 (10jeblad) [15:27:07] Change merged: Nikerabbit; [mediawiki/extensions/LiquidThreads] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29795 [15:30:00] 03(mod) LiquidThreads web interface needs unsubscribe buttons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41013 summary (10Amir E. Aharoni) [15:30:21] New review: Nikerabbit; "I don't quite understand what this piece of code is doing." [mediawiki/extensions/LiquidThreads] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29796 [15:31:39] New patchset: Reedy; "Update with 22-1-d03 RC" [mediawiki/extensions/cldr] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29799 [15:33:43] New review: Siebrand; "It does a query first, and only if there is something to be updated, it will." [mediawiki/extensions/LiquidThreads] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29796 [15:35:32] 03(mod) html tags in the block log entry at Special:CentralAuth for all languages except English - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35411 +comment (10Siddhartha Ghai) [15:37:26] New review: Reedy; "Full release should be next week or so..." [mediawiki/extensions/cldr] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29799 [15:38:26] New patchset: Aude; "revert gerrit change 29597; use cases that pass non-strings to TextContent need to be handled differently" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29800 [15:38:43] New patchset: Platonides; "Set be as fallback language for be-tarask." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29801 [15:42:54] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29770 [15:44:50] 03(mod) IPv6 address handling broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37416 +comment (10Peter Bena) [15:45:24] Almost 4M lines of code! https://www.ohloh.net/orgs/wikimedia [15:45:29] I wonder whether Ohloh is still scanning our repos or that is a stable number [15:45:39] Contributors: 292 Up +166 (131%) [15:45:39] Niice [15:46:10] analyzed 7 minutes ago [15:46:22] Core is Ohloh update completed 43 minutes ago. [15:46:31] I will start capturing those stats every month (even if manually), starting on Nov 1 [15:46:46] I wonder about the hundreds of extensions [15:46:54] although many are not that big anyway [15:47:08] 03(NEW) Text loss on edit page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41352 normal; MediaWiki: ContentHandler; (aude.wiki) [15:47:26] 03(mod) IPv6 address handling broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37416 +comment (10Peter Bena) [15:48:04] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "> kay, so can we make ContentHandler::getForTitle(" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29616 [15:49:08] 03(mod) Text loss on edit page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41352 +comment (10Daniel Kinzler) [15:49:21] What [15:49:31] I swear half of my code review dashboard is suddenly gone [15:49:46] Krenair: I would love that to happen [15:49:53] Krenair: but yeah mine too! [15:50:07] 03(mod) Should we keep the "model" and "format" params in EditPage? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41315 +comment (10Daniel Kinzler) [15:50:19] ^demon [15:50:32] lets hope that we don't have another corruption .... [15:50:42] <^demon> Nothing's happened on gerrit. [15:50:42] Where did all the extension repos go? [15:50:53] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/admin/projects/ [15:51:01] ah yes. that's it. i only see master core now [15:51:03] no extension repos listed for me [15:51:21] <^demon> They're all there. [15:51:30] and it's back again [15:51:33] they are listed for me, but they don't show on my dashboard [15:51:45] that's very scary [15:51:49] indeed back. [15:51:53] wow [15:52:01] Confirmed, they're back. What the heck... [15:52:04] <^demon> No it's not scary. [15:52:18] <^demon> They were never gone. [15:52:20] <^demon> Just invisible. [15:52:26] But why? [15:53:15] <^demon> I was adjusting permissions on mediawiki/extensions for replication stuff. [15:53:28] 03(FIXED) HTML-like tags show up in log - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/15347 +comment (10Krenair) [15:53:47] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "@aude: yes, as a short term fix, it's probably ok, but i'm worried that:" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29597 [15:54:11] New patchset: Matmarex; "(bug 41349) improve selectors for search suggestions" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29802 [15:54:37] Change merged: Nikerabbit; [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29311 [15:55:27] 03(mod) Cologneblue missing search suggestions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41349 +patch-in-gerrit; +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [15:55:48] New code comment: Platonides; I marked them as optional in https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29752 \ \m/etalhead seems to ahve notice; [15:58:01] New review: Nikerabbit; "Eeks globals." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29788 [16:00:38] 03(mod) Outright remove of duplicate short URL under title - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41252 +comment (10Nemo_bis) [16:01:33] 03(mod) Review and deploy Drafts extension to Wikimedia wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37992 +comment (10Capmo) [16:01:51] New patchset: Matmarex; "(bug 41349) improve selectors for search suggestions" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29802 [16:01:57] question: if a wiki has had $wgCompressRevisions (http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgCompressRevisions) enabled, is there a task that can "undo" the compression? Kind of the opposite of compressOld.php? (http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:CompressOld.php) [16:03:01] I don't think so [16:03:59] 03(mod) Project namespace (i.e. "Wikipedia") translation done wrong - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41350 +comment (10Amir E. Aharoni) [16:03:59] You do not have permission to , for the following reason: [16:03:59] while trying to accept a revision on mediawikiwiki... [16:04:06] resaving a page with an edit will uncompress the current revision... I'm guessing having a bot resave every page is the only way. :-/ [16:06:18] 03(mod) Outright remove of duplicate short URL under title - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41252 +comment (10Yuvi Panda) [16:06:40] 03(mod) Review and deploy Drafts extension to Wikimedia wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37992 +comment (10Nemo_bis) [16:15:43] 03(mod) Some messages of advertising functions need GENDER support - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31443 +comment (10Siebrand) [16:16:45] New review: Reedy; "What state is this in?" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16419 [16:16:46] New patchset: Zfilipin; "where the code it pushed to" [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29808 [16:19:12] 03(mod) Outright remove of duplicate short URL under title - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41252 +design (10Andre Klapper) [16:19:30] New review: Cmcmahon; "Good information" [qa/browsertests] (master); V: 0 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29808 [16:20:13] New review: Cmcmahon; "Good information" [qa/browsertests] (master); V: 0 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29808 [16:20:21] New review: MarkTraceur; "Please at the very least fix the grammar in the commit message, preferably it should say more about ..." [qa/browsertests] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29808 [16:20:31] 03(mod) HTML-like tags show up in log - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/15347 +comment (10Siebrand) [16:20:42] New review: TheDJ; "I tried running this locally (with debug true), but i still had no suggestions on cologneblue." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: -1 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29802 [16:20:56] 03(mod) Outright remove of duplicate short URL under title - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41252 +comment (10Nemo_bis) [16:21:24] chrismcmahon: Sorry, I may have stepped on toes there, should I withdraw my review? [16:22:01] New patchset: Reedy; "Watchlist grouping" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16419 [16:22:14] MatmaRex: i'd say, first path cologneblue with #searchInput and then fix searchSuggestions to work with more than one search suggestion input box. [16:22:27] inside the skin file: is there a way to check wether the article uses an embedded image or not? [16:22:39] why not #mw-search-input [16:22:44] marktraceur: no, that's OK. but I just encountered something in gerrit I've not seen before. I can 'review' that change but I can't make it 'verified' afaict [16:23:10] Odd. [16:23:12] Nikerabbit: the name doesn't matter. as long as there is one element to get suggestions (which is what searchSuggestions currently expects) [16:23:26] I see the button for it--maybe if someone else is reviewing, you're disallowed? [16:23:33] #searchInput is the name we use everywhere. [16:23:42] chrismcmahon: I just verified it [16:23:51] chrismcmahon: I'm sure the README still runs without errors [16:24:19] 03(mod) Outright remove of duplicate short URL under title - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41252 +comment (10Yuvi Panda) [16:24:59] ^demon: See backscroll - chrismcmahon can't verify a patch, but can approve it. [16:25:16] 03(mod) WikiLove installation on Urdu Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40848 +comment (10Muhammad Shuaib) [16:25:40] <^demon> Which patch? [16:27:26] New review: Siebrand; "Please create a bugzilla issue for this. When someone wants to oppose what happened here, having it ..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29801 [16:27:28] thedj[wo1k]: consistency does matter [16:28:29] <^demon> Hmm. The permissions are there. [16:28:31] ^demon: this patch: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/29808/ [16:28:58] Change merged: Cmcmahon; [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29808 [16:29:08] <^demon> https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/admin/projects/qa,access - looks sane [16:29:28] Nikerabbit: we are talking about a regression here. and #searchInput was what it always was. [16:29:28] New review: Siebrand; "Please add a change ID or something in the commit summary (like Ice30ea78). The change set ID is not..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29800 [16:29:28] hmm, wonder if I should revert that [16:29:42] i'm fine with switching id's but then do it after fixing this, do it for every skin, and deal with all the broken userscripts :D [16:30:14] thedj[wo1k]: fine [16:33:07] 03(mod) Harvesting problems for header values in combination with some kind of wikitext - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39973 +upstream; +comment (10Andre Klapper) [16:33:22] 03(mod) HTML validation: Attribute srcset not allowed on element img at this point.v - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41346 +comment (10Krenair) [16:33:40] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/cldr] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29799 [16:35:49] New review: Hashar; "I forgot to merge that change while waiting for test completion. Thanks Umherirrender." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26895 [16:35:50] Change merged: Hashar; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26895 [16:37:15] 14(WFM) hover pseudo-class for TablePager causes slowdown in IE7 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/17294 +performance; +comment (10Andre Klapper) [16:38:47] 03(UNCONFIRMED) Can't view Special:ListFiles page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38612 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [16:39:11] inside the skin file: is there a way to check wether the article uses an embedded image or not? [16:40:57] Subfader: there's always a way, i guess :) [16:41:11] 14(WFM) Polyglot: Missing title for language links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30545 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [16:41:43] 03(mod) Documentation missing for parameter SMWResultPrinter::$maxRecursionDepth (limits #ask transclusion nesting depth) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41268 +comment (10Markus Krötzsch) [16:45:13] New review: Siebrand; "This will work. One fixme." [mediawiki/extensions/ConfirmAccount] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29794 [16:45:41] 03(mod) Update call of User::getGroupMember on Special:UserCredentialsPage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31619 +patch-in-gerrit (10Siebrand) [16:47:22] chrismcmahon: I probably should have been more strong about my objection to that patch--the qa/browsertests repo looks like it needs some work on its commit summaries [16:48:04] zeljkof see marktraceur 's comment above ^^ [16:48:48] marktraceur: I think you're right. but that code in gerrit is just a few hours old right now :) [16:48:51] zeljkof: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Workflow#Commit_message_guidelines <-- even better [16:49:02] chrismcmahon: Even so, it will be there forever [16:49:25] chrismcmahon: Better Commit Messages in 2012: Building a better future. [16:49:26] marktraceur: I am reading the docs, will try to write better commit messages in the future [16:49:30] Yes we can, yes we can [16:49:34] point taken [16:49:38] zeljkof: Thanks so much [16:49:46] Hi. Do I understand it right that [[Extension:Math]] requires LaTeX on the host, even if I just want to use the MathJaX backend? [16:50:02] zeljkof: I'm always happy to play resident grammar police if you'd like a double-check :) [16:50:16] !e Math [16:50:16] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Math [16:50:21] Damn [16:50:30] marktraceur: please do, I did not even notice the mistake in the commit message [16:50:32] aranea: It shouldn't do.. [16:51:48] 03(mod) Accounts magically unattached despite being recently created - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39996 +comment (10Chris Steipp) [16:51:58] thanks Reedy, I'll give it a try then [16:54:06] marktraceur: I am not sure if I understood this [16:54:20] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "[JobQueue] README file for job queue classes." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29625 [16:54:34] marktraceur: www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/TLDR [16:54:36] marktraceur: $ git commit -a # In the Gerrit world you can do this only once per branch! [16:54:54] marktraceur: I should run "git review" after every commit? [16:55:03] zeljkof: That does seem confusing.... [16:55:26] zeljkof: You don't have to, no, but it's nice to. That way your code is public when you're done writing it [16:55:46] zeljkof, you usually only commit once per branch and them keep amending it. Each amendment is a new patchset [16:56:05] Ohhh. [16:56:13] After committing/amending, run 'git review' to upload it to Gerrit [16:56:19] 03(NEW) Edit conflict thrown despite editing a completely different section - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41353 normal; MediaWiki: Page editing; (rainerrillke) [16:57:39] marktraceur, Krenair: so, I should run "git review" after every commit, and it will add to the same patchset (if that is the correct word) in gerrit? [16:57:46] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "Won't cause any harm, so yes, let's merge it" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23991 [16:57:47] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23991 [16:58:24] zeljkof, well if it's a new commit it'll create a new 'change' [16:58:37] If you're amending a commit which is already in Gerrit, it should create a new patchset under the existing change [16:59:07] Krenair: so, there is no way of pushing a few commits to gerrit? [16:59:23] zeljkof: You can, but it will treat them as multiple changes [16:59:41] zeljkof: And we'll have to review them in sequence, which is harder for us [16:59:46] 03(mod) Accounts magically unattached despite being recently created - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39996 +comment (10Krenair) [16:59:51] "us" being "reviewers" [17:00:00] (you, too!) [17:00:08] zeljkof, you can, but it creates multiple changes which have dependencies on each other [17:00:24] 03(mod) Edit conflict thrown despite editing a completely different section - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41353 +code-update-regression; +comment (10Rainer Rillke @commons.wikimedia) [17:00:30] marktraceur, Krenair: I usually commit pretty small changes, and push to a remote when it makes sense [17:00:58] zeljkof: it's best if your commits are split in logical chunks, one commit = one feature/bugfix [17:01:05] so "the gerrit way" is not to create a lot of small commits but one bigger? [17:01:12] if you commit often, it might be a good idea to rebase some of them [17:01:13] 03(mod) [Regression] Edit conflict thrown despite editing a completely different section - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41353 summary (10Rainer Rillke @commons.wikimedia) [17:01:57] and this is a matter ofp ersonal preference, some prefer five 30-line commits (like me), others prefer one 150-line commit [17:02:03] (for reviewing) [17:02:57] New patchset: Mwalker; "CN ability to target campaign to non geoip-able connections" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29811 [17:04:09] New patchset: Siebrand; "Deglobalization in EditPage.php" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27164 [17:04:19] I think I will not like "the gerrit way" :) [17:04:36] 03(NEW) When disablepp is set, do not store ParserOutput to ParserCache - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41354 normal; MediaWiki: API; (liangent) [17:04:43] 03(mod) When disablepp is set, do not store ParserOutput to parser cache - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41354 summary (10Liangent) [17:04:48] zeljkof, as MatmaRex there doesn't appear to be a clear 'gerrit way' for this, it's personal preference [17:04:52] MatmaRex said* [17:04:54] 03(mod) When disablepp is set for action=parse, do not store ParserOutput to parser cache - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41354 summary (10Liangent) [17:05:03] 03(mod) When disablepp is set for action=parse, do not store ParserOutput in parser cache - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41354 summary (10Liangent) [17:05:18] New review: Siebrand; "PS4: The fix merge conflict challenge has begun. Fixes edit conflict from I75ddf1d9 and some additio..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27164 [17:05:18] New review: Matmarex; "Hm, you're right, that was stupid of me – I only ran the code in JS console on en.wikipedia." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29802 [17:05:32] Krenair: yes, but looks like the easiest thing for reviewers is bigger commits [17:05:32] thedj: ^ [17:05:33] ^^ [17:05:46] and that is completely opposite of the way I prefer to work [17:06:01] the "gerrit way" is "the least commits, the better", but don;t do that [17:06:15] (the reason for it is because gerrit handles dependent commits badly) [17:06:59] (e.g. requires rebases if the base commit changes, or just simply removes the dependencies when it feels like it) [17:07:00] so id your changes are actually dependent, that's gonna hurt. [17:07:01] if* [17:07:04] <^demon> "Feels like it" isn't very specific. [17:07:20] <^demon> I don't have troubles with dependent commits. [17:07:31] if they are not actually dependent on each other, just create each one in a separate topic branch and submit separately, and git will handle the merging [17:07:35] <^demon> Indeed. [17:07:43] ^demon: there are bugs on our bigzilla i repoted... [17:07:55] bugzilla* [17:07:58] reported* [17:09:09] (whoops, my IM crashed) [17:09:16] New patchset: Hariharshankar; "(bug 34778) Extension Memento: Initial Submit" [mediawiki/extensions/Memento] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29812 [17:09:21] ^demon: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40454 [17:09:21] nobody replied... [17:09:44] <^demon> I've seen it. Those sorts of bugs are hard to debug though without your local repo. [17:10:04] but they clearly are there. and i had similar issues with the cologneblue rewrite [17:10:09] ^demon: looks like there will be some experimentation with branching and commit sizes in qa/browsertests repo in the near future :) [17:10:18] with disappearing dependencies [17:10:47] <^demon> zeljkof: That's fine. The qa group has Create Reference permissions on the repos, so you can make as many branches as need be. [17:11:02] In languages/messages/MessagesXXX.php if a $fallback language is specified, do *all* properties fallback? or are some not applied? specifically, are $digittransformtable , $rtl, $separatortransformtable and $digitgroupingpattern applied from the fallback? [17:11:38] 03(NEW) Allow creation of multiple accounts during workshop - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41355 normal; Wikimedia: Site configuration; (solstag) [17:12:18] <^demon> Sid-G: As far as I remember, everything falls back. But someone else could maybe speak with more authority. [17:12:29] 03(mod) Allow creation of multiple accounts during workshop - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41355 +comment (10Al-Scandar Solstag) [17:12:58] ^demon: thanks. I just wanna be sure :) [17:13:11] that gerrit thing is strange, why does't it just follow "the git way" and allow "git review" of the entire topic branch? [17:13:29] because gerrit [17:13:41] the idea behind a topic branch is that you plan to create a few commits there, right? [17:13:51] yes. except not in gerrit :( [17:13:51] <^demon> Becuase git review is annoying. [17:13:53] actually [17:13:55] <^demon> Gerrit handles that sort of thing fine. [17:14:05] you can have a few commits there [17:14:12] if you want to introduce a feature in steps [17:14:19] or just do some slightly related, but not dependent, fixes [17:14:37] but usually, one commit = one feature/bugfix. [17:15:12] MatmaRex_: that is so opposite of why I like git, one feature/bugfix should be a few small commits [17:15:26] New patchset: Pgehres; "Adding landingpage/language as the final fallback for priority countries." [mediawiki/extensions/LandingCheck] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29813 [17:15:33] or a lot of small commits, if it is a big feature/bugfix [17:15:42] <^demon> zeljkof: There's no harm in doing that in a branch, and pushing the merge for review. [17:15:54] optimizing for bigger commits sounds upside down to me [17:16:15] ^demon: will try that right now, with a couple of commits [17:16:23] to see how it looks like [17:16:29] zeljkof: i feel precisely the same way [17:16:37] the gerrit philosophy is "get used or get lost". :( [17:16:51] MatmaRex_: wow :( [17:17:16] and gerrit is the best git commit review tool out there? [17:17:53] i have no idea why it was chosen, but i wasnt here when it was time to choose one, so i try not to complain pointlessly (too much) [17:17:58] Change merged: Mwalker; [mediawiki/extensions/LandingCheck] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29813 [17:18:02] <^demon> zeljkof: It's kind of like bug tools. They're all bad, but some are less bad than others. [17:18:08] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "[JobQueue] Added support for use rough-FIFO instead of random priority." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29814 [17:18:24] to be honest, i never used any other CR tool for git [17:18:28] New patchset: Siebrand; "(bug 31619) Use genderized groups on Special:UserCredentialsPage" [mediawiki/extensions/ConfirmAccount] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29794 [17:18:30] <^demon> It was chosen because it suited the needs when it was chosen, and we didn't want to re-write CodeReview. [17:18:31] 03(mod) Allow creation of multiple accounts during workshop - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41355 +comment (10Al-Scandar Solstag) [17:19:20] New review: Siebrand; "Fixed casing issue in PS1." [mediawiki/extensions/ConfirmAccount] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29794 [17:19:20] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/ConfirmAccount] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29794 [17:19:22] <^demon> We re-evaluated it, but were unable to find another tool that was satisfactory. [17:19:38] <^demon> So hence, "they're all bad, but some are less bad than others" [17:19:50] 03(FIXED) Update call of User::getGroupMember on Special:UserCredentialsPage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31619 +comment (10Siebrand) [17:19:51] ^demon: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/28606/ [17:20:11] ^demon: so, it is the best out there [17:20:34] looks like we will have to make the best we can given the constraints :) [17:20:35] New patchset: preilly; "update MobileFrontend to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29815 [17:21:00] thanks a lot, it is really more clear to me how to use it, will experiment and see how it goes [17:21:00] New patchset: preilly; "update MobileFrontend to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf1) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29816 [17:21:02] back to code now [17:21:29] 03(mod) Deploy extension Memento on Wikipedia sites - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34778 +comment (10Harihar Shankar) [17:21:34] Change merged: preilly; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29815 [17:21:44] Change merged: preilly; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf1) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29816 [17:21:50] New patchset: Mwalker; "FU for Database Prefixes" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29634 [17:21:58] New patchset: Matmarex; "(bug 41349) code reordering in searchSuggest + improved searchbox selectors" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29802 [17:22:27] zeljkof: personally i found that developing "git way" (small commits) and fusing the together later (via git rebase -i) works pretty well for me [17:22:35] Change merged: Demon; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28606 [17:22:41] fusing them* [17:22:50] yay readme files [17:23:12] MatmaRex_: will try that too, did not use rebase a lot so far [17:23:21] ^demon: how much do you check your dashboard? [17:23:32] I know lots of people don't use that too much [17:24:13] <^demon> I use it a lot. I'm also pretty aggressive in removing myself from review lists on things I don't actually care about. [17:24:19] 03(mod) ULS: Pointer style target should match click target - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41314 +comment (10Krinkle) [17:24:22] yeah I do that to [17:24:41] it sucks when I don't want to remove a -1 so I have to leave it [17:24:41] Change merged: Demon; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28905 [17:25:05] New review: Reedy; "Why is this split into 3 extensions?" [mediawiki/extensions/Memento] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29812 [17:25:10] zeljkof: when playing with rebase, make sure to learn something about "git reflog", 'cause you're gonna need it when you mess up :) [17:25:14] rebasing is awesome, but scary [17:25:24] 03(mod) Accounts magically unattached despite being recently created - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39996 +comment (10Trijnstel) [17:26:21] 03(FIXED) MediaWiki:Revision-info should accept wikimarkup - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/16026 +comment (10Siebrand) [17:26:21] New review: Aaron Schulz; "Could use a bit more docs (like what paths are FS paths and what ones are storage paths). This kind ..." [mediawiki/extensions/Score] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23644 [17:26:49] New review: Matmarex; "This time it actually works." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29802 [17:26:54] <^demon> MatmaRex_: `git config --global alias.ohcrap "reset --hard origin/master"` [17:27:31] ^demon: i've got a feeling this will rough up my stuff when it's done in the middle of an interactive rebase [17:27:45] <^demon> Oh yeah. It'll throw away everything. [17:28:00] yeah, but i'm mostly wondering about the rebase state. [17:28:20] New review: Krinkle; "Does it always keep the current format if the parameters are not submitted? (e.g. through older API ..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29616 [17:28:29] i guess it;s nothing a "git rebase --abort" can't fix. [17:29:02] but, if you're rebasing on master, then you damn well deserve that. :P [17:29:20] <^demon> A reset --hard would probably get rid of the rebase state. [17:29:30] 03(mod) ULS: Pointer style target should match click target - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41314 +comment (10Santhosh Thottingal) [17:29:41] <^demon> I know it discards cherry-pick state. [17:31:26] 03(mod) Mechanism to find usages of raw-html messages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/19291 +comment (10Siebrand) [17:31:38] New review: Reedy; "Please also fix all of the trailing whitespace" [mediawiki/extensions/Memento] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29812 [17:32:07] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Offset is incorrect after alienInline in Firefox - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41117 +comment (10Roan Kattouw) [17:32:44] 03(mod) XHTML compliance (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/209 +comment (10Siebrand) [17:34:26] * Sid-G waits for someone with authority to respond [17:36:48] 03(FIXED) Allow Blockedtext start with == heading == - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/13000 +comment (10Siebrand) [17:37:31] Hello [17:38:38] New review: Reedy; "qqq documentation should be added for all messages" [mediawiki/extensions/Memento] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29812 [17:38:59] 03(NEW) [[de:Barack Obama]] article shows test instead of real nav - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41356 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend; (tfinc) [17:39:21] 03(mod) [[de:Barack Obama]] article shows text instead of real nav - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41356 summary (10Tomasz Finc) [17:40:12] New review: Reedy; "You should also make sure your code follows https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Coding_conventions..." [mediawiki/extensions/Memento] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29812 [17:40:25] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "Some minor fixes to README file." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29817 [17:41:24] Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29817 [17:41:52] 14(WFM) [[de:Barack Obama]] article shows text instead of real nav - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41356 +comment (10Jon) [17:42:07] 03(mod) Review and deploy TimedMediaHandler extension (timed media handler) to Wikimedia wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27699 +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [17:42:46] 03(FIXED) Closing bracket skipped in emailed links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/11056 +comment (10Siebrand) [17:45:11] New patchset: Matmarex; "Display language links in sidebar ucfirst using CSS" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27039 [17:46:17] 03(NEW) MobileFrontend options save button too small for German text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41357 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend; (brion) [17:46:17] uh [17:46:22] i'm not sure what happened [17:46:34] but i think i just managed to post inline comments without creating a review. [17:46:42] ^demon: this shouldn't be possible, should it? [17:46:55] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/27039/4/skins/chick/main.css can anybody see my reply to Krinkle here? [17:47:30] <^demon> From 2 minutes ago? [17:47:41] New review: Krinkle; "-1 per comments regarding the need for context to take preference first instead of the other way aro..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29729 [17:47:42] yeah. [17:47:57] <^demon> I don't know how that's possible. [17:48:01] lol [17:48:22] New patchset: Krinkle; "ve.ui.CommandFactory: Initial implementation" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29454 [17:48:22] i saved the draft, clicked "review", didn't publish yet, pushed commit for review, clicked "publish", got an error. [17:48:28] but they appeared. [17:48:31] * MatmaRex_ games the system [17:48:37] drafts* [17:48:45] as there are two such comments on that patchset. [17:49:13] (the error was about a new patchset being already submitted and old one being unreviewable, or something.) [17:50:06] is this a bug or a feature? [17:50:09] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Context menu appears in the wrong place in IE10 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41233 +comment (10James Forrester) [17:50:22] <^demon> I don't know. I can't find anything filed upstream. [17:50:33] <^demon> Lemme see if there's anything in the error log. [17:51:05] seems almost useful [17:51:30] <^demon> Yeah, but totally unintuitive. [17:53:20] ^demon: can/should i try to reproduce it? [17:54:18] <^demon> Not yet. Lemme see if maybe there is a cover message in the database, but it's just not showing. [17:54:34] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Offset is incorrect after alienInline in Firefox - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41117 +comment (10Inez Korczyński) [17:55:01] okay [17:56:08] New review: Matmarex; "See inline." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29802 [17:56:30] New patchset: Hoo man; "(bug 36053) Login returnto doesn't work if title isn't in the URI" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29729 [17:56:37] <^demon> Hmm. No secret cover message. [17:56:37] New review: Aaron Schulz; "Also see https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/29423/" [mediawiki/extensions/SwiftCloudFiles] (master); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29421 [17:56:44] <^demon> It does seem as though you saved inline comments with no cover message. [17:56:46] ^demon: can poke at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/29421/ ? [17:56:50] New patchset: Matthias Mullie; "code maintenance" [mediawiki/extensions/MapSources] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28228 [17:56:57] New review: Hoo man; "Changed to what Krinkle wanted, tested." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29729 [17:57:18] ^demon: lol [17:57:33] Change merged: Demon; [mediawiki/extensions/SwiftCloudFiles] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29421 [17:57:34] will you report upstream? [17:57:39] Change merged: Matthias Mullie; [mediawiki/extensions/MapSources] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28228 [17:58:01] 03(ASSIGNED) Cologneblue missing search suggestions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41349 +code-update-regression (10Krinkle) [17:58:32] New patchset: Matthias Mullie; "Move GeoMath & SlippyMap into MapSources" [mediawiki/extensions/MapSources] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28348 [17:58:34] New review: Krinkle; "Don't forget to backport to REL1_20 after landing, this is a regression." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29802 [17:58:52] Change merged: Matthias Mullie; [mediawiki/extensions/MapSources] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28348 [17:59:12] hey andre__ do you know what is about to start in like 3 min? [17:59:12] New patchset: Matmarex; "(bug 41349) code reordering in searchSuggest + improved searchbox selectors" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29802 [17:59:26] this is a sufficiently advanced bug, hence a feature. Maybe MatmaRex_ should document this somewhere? It could be useful ;) [18:00:08] sumanah, does that imply I should open my calendar? :) [18:00:28] andre__: hint: it's on Rob's calendar and it's listed in a table you've recently looked at on mediawiki.org [18:00:38] "advanced bugs are features" [18:00:45] New review: Demon; "Some grammar/spelling nitpicks. Content-wise it's fine." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29625 [18:00:46] That's my quote of the day. [18:00:48] andre__: Phase 3 Wednesday, October 24 All other Wikipedias (1.21wmf2) [18:00:52] New patchset: Matmarex; "(bug 41349) code reordering in searchSuggest + improved searchbox selectors" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29802 [18:01:01] :D [18:01:13] * Sid-G explodes [18:01:22] sumanah: that's at 11AM? I see [18:01:22] Krinkle: ^^^ [18:01:24] knew it's today but not when [18:01:43] Krinkle: this seems to be how MW operates in general [18:01:51] like this JS/CSS pages being parsed [18:01:53] the* [18:02:29] $ bugzilla-quips: Your quip " This is a sufficiently advanced bug, it is a feature." has been added. [18:02:50] You'll be seeing it when browsing bugzilla :) [18:02:50] Krinkle: I think I read that there already [18:03:07] "Any sufficiently advanced bug is indistinguishable from a feature." - Rich Kulawiec [18:03:09] Indeed [18:03:10] you're right [18:03:12] yes [18:03:23] that's where I got that gem :D [18:03:24] ok, so, Gerrit downtime, 14:00-16:00UTC - so it passed by us already? [18:03:33] since it is 1800 UTC now [18:03:38] wasn';t it suppose to be tomorrow? [18:03:38] Sid-G: fair enough, I'll unlist if you want me to. [18:03:43] supposed* [18:03:52] Sid-G: but there is also "It's not a bug - it's an undocumented feature. " [18:03:53] meh, I don't mind it either way [18:04:03] and "If it ain't broke, it needs more features. " [18:04:05] who was this? [18:04:06] :P [18:04:16] Sid-G: unsigned, unfortunately [18:04:16] both [18:04:19] hehehe, that is one helluva list [18:04:26] "I've always assumed that it was a feature...It might be a bug, sometimes it's hard to tell the difference round here." --DuncanHill [18:04:30] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/quips.cgi?action=show [18:04:30] oh, right, it's tomorrow [18:04:33] silly me [18:04:37] argh [18:04:39] never mind [18:04:44] people are sensible [18:04:44] "Please, add this feature to the bug. --bug 36600" [18:04:50] lol [18:05:12] Sid-G: I suppose yours just fits in the environment well, I'll keep it if you don't mind. [18:05:13] btw Sid-G have you ever tried ?uselang=qqx ? some other folks around here just found out about it [18:05:27] I don't maind Krinkle :) [18:05:33] sumanah: haven't [18:05:55] Example, Sid-G -- https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_1.21/Roadmap?uselang=qqx [18:06:19] trying on en-wp [18:06:31] wow [18:06:43] yeah! [18:06:54] sumanah: this is? [18:07:07] Sid-G: I don't understand your question, sorry [18:07:07] Sid-G: these are internal messsages keys [18:07:31] intended? unintended? [18:07:35] New review: Hoo man; "Many more usages of the old message functions, see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Messages_API" [mediawiki/extensions/Memento] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29812 [18:07:35] Sid-G: fun when you're trying to figure out which part of the code renders what you're looking at [18:07:37] definitely intended [18:07:50] MatmaRex_: if you add back the placeholder (or explain in the commit msg why it was removed) I'll merge it. [18:07:55] (gc 29802) [18:07:55] Krinkle: it is there [18:08:04] Krinkle: just moved down in the code [18:08:06] ah yes. It'll be very useful. Thanks sumanah :) [18:08:08] Krenair: below the check that i've also moved [18:08:10] You're welcome! [18:08:17] argh, Krinkle* [18:08:23] MatmaRex_: Ah, both blocks moved [18:08:31] MatmaRex_: what IRC client do you use? [18:08:33] Krinkle: read my inline comments, you :( [18:08:34] -MatmaRex_- VERSION Miranda IM 0.9.42.0 (IRC v.0.9.42.0 Unicode), (c) 2003-09 J.Persson, G.Hazan [18:08:36] sumanah: Miranda IM [18:08:47] hm, apparently it's an old version [18:08:50] In XChat you can change the autocompletion order [18:09:00] MatmaRex_: marktraceur showed me how, in XChat, I can set my preferences to autocomplete based on "last spoken" and not alphabetically [18:09:00] So that if Krinkle last spoke it'd complete to him instead of me [18:09:02] but i won't risk upgrading and having everything break ;) [18:09:14] spoken like a true technologist [18:09:14] :) [18:09:16] there's probably an extension for this for miranda [18:09:29] it is more configurablw than MediaWiki :D [18:09:31] Months later, I still get highlighted by sumanah spreading my good word :) [18:09:43] MatmaRex_: ic, thx [18:10:04] the main preferences screen has about 25 sections, most with a few more tabs [18:10:11] i love it [18:10:13] marktraceur: I am still grateful! Pay It Forward [18:10:39] 03(mod) Accounts magically unattached despite being recently created - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39996 +comment (10Snowolf) [18:10:58] csteipp: got you a 4 day old account with that issue, hope it's helpful [18:11:02] MatmaRex_: Using irssi decreases navigation strain by 100% but increases general complexity by at least 200%. Your call :) [18:11:14] marktraceur: but i've got all my protocols in here! [18:11:40] marktraceur: it does have the best alias engine tho :) [18:11:43] including two xmpps, facebook chat and GG (belongs to a proprietary Polish chat client) [18:11:48] Can anyone tell with surety (asking again): In languages/messages/MessagesXXX.php if a $fallback language is specified, do *all* properties fallback? or are some not applied? specifically, are $digittransformtable , $rtl, $separatortransformtable and $digitgroupingpattern applied from the fallback? [18:11:51] and irc, of course [18:12:26] andre__: re this wikitech-l post, "[Wikitech-l] All wmf imagescalers now running ubuntu 12.04 precise" -- now it's even more important to watch out for image issues and publicize them to robla & Ops quickly [18:12:26] MatmaRex_: Gadu-Gadu, IIRC? [18:12:40] yeah [18:12:55] it's total poop, but everyone still uses it [18:13:08] MatmaRex_: I was blessed with many European visitors in my childhood, I'm familiar with the crapstorm that is GG. [18:13:14] New patchset: Bsitu; "Fix a typo in array key" [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29818 [18:13:57] marktraceur: ;) [18:17:23] 03(mod) Review and deploy TimedMediaHandler extension (timed media handler) to Wikimedia wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27699 +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [18:19:31] Krinkle: re: your latest comment on #29802, i agree. [18:20:43] Krinkle: and while we're at it, it would be great if you could look at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/23674/, it's been sitting with two +1s since october 5 [18:21:02] MatmaRex_: do you already know what I'm going to say? [18:21:46] * MatmaRex_ hides [18:22:04] seriously, *I want to help you be more effective* so you might want to take my advice [18:22:27] this is a commit about search suggestions as well, and it enhances their usability. [18:22:30] New patchset: Robmoen; "Alignment for editOptions and insertChars when WikiEditor enabled" [mediawiki/extensions/Vector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29819 [18:22:35] by making them links instead of javascripted maigc boxes. [18:23:40] 03(mod) IE 8 changes suggestions list when moving focus to the suggestion list - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41342 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [18:23:54] New review: Hashar; "And now this change need to be rebased..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28794 [18:23:59] 03(mod) mw.loader.load() fails in IE8 when loading external stylesheet - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41331 +comment (10Erwin Dokter) [18:24:54] Change merged: Kaldari; [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29818 [18:25:26] MatmaRex_: btw, as a nice little hack you might like: I use Special:JavaScriptTest/qunit?module=none to test things in different skins [18:25:34] module=none disables the test suite [18:25:38] what I'm after is that skin switcher [18:25:39] 03(mod) Allow creation of multiple accounts during workshop - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41355 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [18:26:32] New patchset: Krinkle; "(bug 41349) mediawiki.searchSuggest: Reorder code + fix selectors" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29802 [18:26:45] 03(mod) IE 8 changes suggestions list when moving focus to the suggestion list - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41342 +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [18:28:19] New review: Hashar; "Good for me as far as I am concerned. Thanks for the doc Aaron :-)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29625 [18:28:49] 03(mod) IE 8 changes suggestions list when moving focus to the suggestion list - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41342 (10Krinkle) [18:31:29] 03(FIXED) Allow creation of multiple accounts during workshop - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41355 +comment (10Krenair) [18:32:12] Change merged: Krinkle; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29802 [18:32:19] have these wmf2 fatals been reported already? https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kawiarenka/Kwestie_techniczne#Update_oprogramowania_Media_Wiki_do_1.21wmf2 [18:32:34] (this is pl.wiki village pump, see last section on the page) [18:33:08] andre__: i guess you're the one to ask? ^ [18:33:26] MatmaRex_, let me check (and thanks for pinging me, yes) [18:33:27] New patchset: Krinkle; "(bug 41349) mediawiki.searchSuggest: Reorder code + fix selectors" [mediawiki/core] (REL1_20) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29821 [18:33:47] Eww [18:34:10] these errors apparently appeared respective on recentchanges and on watchlist [18:34:16] respectively* [18:34:30] New review: Alex Monk; "Added Bsitu and Kaldari as reviewers, as they just split off part of this change into Ifdd2551a for ..." [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23936 [18:34:32] MatmaRex_, recentchanges is https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41258 [18:34:38] 03(mod) Section editing: In case of edit conflict, textarea now only shows section you edited → accidential content deleting - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41280 +comment (10Reaper Eternal) [18:35:16] MatmaRex_, watchlist might be https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=39336 [18:35:23] oh, and yes, WTM is a sysop on pl.wiki [18:35:31] (the reporter) [18:35:44] MatmaRex_, 39336 asks for more info [18:35:58] MatmaRex_, so if there are logs and/or replication possible that would be awesome to add there [18:36:03] andre__: I found a new type of exception in the logs, putting on BZ [18:36:13] i guess it just happened randomly [18:36:13] uhm, ok [18:36:17] doesn't happen to me right now [18:36:20] 03(mod) mw.loader.load() fails in IE8 when loading external stylesheet - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41331 +comment (10Erwin Dokter) [18:36:30] still if there's logs that would be a good first step to track it down a bit further [18:37:19] does http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&meta=siteinfo&siprop=languages indicate the list of all possible uselang values? [18:37:33] odd question/thought: Is there a way to flush the page cache (preferably of a specific page) when a new page under a specific category is added/edited? [18:38:36] issue: I have a page that includes a table listing of all pages in a category, it'd be nice that when someone adds a new page to that category, that table would actually update (now, our pagecaching prevents that unless we do the &action=purge trick) [18:39:10] New review: Bsitu; "Oops, my bad. I have missed this patch" [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23936 [18:39:37] plop [18:39:53] greg-g: probably not, other than manually or using a bot [18:40:05] greg-g: or using an extension, if it's on your own wiki [18:40:17] (but i don't know about any ready-made solutions) [18:41:01] New patchset: Alex Monk; "Fix a couple of email parameter issues." [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23936 [18:41:50] 03(mod) [[w:sco:Special:RecentChanges]] — Fatal exception of type MWException - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41258 +comment (10Roan Kattouw) [18:42:07] 03(mod) email messages have escaped HTML - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38940 +comment (10Krenair) [18:42:13] MatmaRex_: it's our wiki, yeah, do you know of an extension that does it? (I'm lazy today :P ) [18:42:28] New patchset: Guillom; "Remove ability for Authors to publish posts" [wikimedia/communications/WMBlog] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29823 [18:42:28] nope, sorry [18:42:33] 14(DUP) [[w:sco:Special:RecentChanges]] — Fatal exception of type MWException - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41258 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [18:42:34] 03(mod) LinkCache doesn't currently know about this title - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37209 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [18:42:36] that, and my searching is failing, it's a hard thing to search for, really [18:43:29] Reedy: is https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41258 really a dupe? [18:43:40] Roan's backtrace seems to be, but not the rest? [18:43:54] Hmm, maybe [18:44:00] Roans definitely is ;) [18:44:01] * Sid-G wishes happy [[w:Dussehra]] to anyone who's still on 24/10 [18:44:23] Reedy: also, you saw the link i gave before? fatals on pl.wiki: https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kawiarenka/Kwestie_techniczne#Update_oprogramowania_Media_Wiki_do_1.21wmf2 [18:44:33] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "[JobQueue] README file for job queue classes." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29625 [18:44:40] didn't report as bug as these are probably dupes of *something* [18:44:52] as bugs yet* [18:44:54] RecentChanges and/or Watchlist? [18:44:57] http://i50.tinypic.com/1zfk1va.png [18:45:07] Dupe [18:45:07] Dupe [18:45:07] Dupe [18:45:07] Dupe [18:45:07] Dupe [18:45:07] Is this some new form of error reporting? [18:45:07] Dupe [18:45:09] Dupe [18:45:15] Reedy: what's up? [18:45:25] Reedy: both [18:45:25] It's a dupe [18:45:26] All of them [18:45:29] Everything is a dupe! [18:45:32] Reedy: first error is RC, second is watchling [18:45:34] watchlist. [18:45:40] Fix the fucking LinkCache [18:45:55] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/27528/ 'twas fixed once already :( [18:46:17] I'm more concerned about erorr message format than about bug itself [18:46:23] MatmaRex_: that's not been merged to production [18:46:24] It is pathetically meaningless [18:46:28] whyyy [18:46:38] vvv: See https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38095 [18:46:39] Also a dupe [18:46:41] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?list_id=154668&longdesc=Fatal%20exception%20of%20type%20MWException&longdesc_type=substring [18:46:44] poor reedy [18:47:21] anybody with more code understanding than I currently have feel free to go through that list and mark dups as such. [18:47:56] Change merged: Trevor Parscal; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29466 [18:48:18] 03(mod) Review and deploy Drafts extension to Wikimedia wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37992 +comment (10Erik Moeller) [18:48:24] 03(mod) Error handling information reduced: "Fatal exception of type MWException" is somewhat useless - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38095 normal->major; +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [18:48:33] :( [18:48:40] New review: Trevor Parscal; "Looks good as a start, will make changes in future commits." [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29454 [18:48:40] Change merged: Trevor Parscal; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29454 [18:49:08] 03(mod) Accounts magically unattached despite being recently created - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39996 +comment (10Marco Aurelio) [18:49:23] 03(mod) key 'rsion=' is not in a proper format - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41306 +comment (10Roan Kattouw) [18:50:04] Reedy: the bugs on pl.wiki i linked. these are reproducible. [18:50:15] 03(mod) Section editing: In case of edit conflict, textarea now only shows section you edited → accidential content deleting - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41280 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [18:50:15] just confirmed by another person, also an admin [18:50:22] they disappear when you restore all default prefs. [18:50:22] 03(mod) Text loss on edit page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41352 normal->major; +code-update-regression (10Andre Klapper) [18:50:23] I never said they weren't ;) [18:50:37] so. do i report it, or are you taking care already? :) [18:50:47] 03(mod) Error handling information reduced: "Fatal exception of type MWException" is somewhat useless - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38095 +comment (10Roan Kattouw) [18:50:50] I'm not dealing with it [18:51:12] they disappear when you restore all default prefs, this seems to be the fun part. [18:51:18] Reedy: Any particular reason why https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/27528/ hasn't been deployed? [18:51:29] WTM sais he's toggling his preferences on one by one right now and looking for the culprit [18:51:29] said* [18:52:09] New review: Nikerabbit; "Does timestamp order (not documented anywhere as I can see) have greater contention as random order?..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29814 [18:52:42] 03(mod) Error handling information reduced: "Fatal exception of type MWException" is somewhat useless - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38095 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [18:53:24] New review: Aaron Schulz; "You could just use:" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29814 [18:53:33] RoanKattouw: It should be in 1.21wmf2 already [18:53:48] Hm [18:53:54] Based on it being 11th October [18:54:08] and 1.21wmf2 was branched on the 15th [18:54:59] D'oh [18:55:06] They only fixed one of the instances [18:55:14] Search for "check the assumption" in wmf2 Title.php and you'll see [18:55:21] * RoanKattouw disappears into the world for lunch [18:57:08] New patchset: Tim Landscheidt; "Add additional job columns to PostgreSQL as well." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29826 [19:01:14] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "[JobQueue] README file for job queue classes." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29625 [19:01:14] 03(mod) Mechanism to find usages of raw-html messages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/19291 +comment (10Niklas Laxström) [19:02:27] 03(mod) [Regression] Edit conflict thrown despite editing a completely different section - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41353 normal->major; +comment (10Rainer Rillke @commons.wikimedia) [19:02:44] 03(mod) XHTML compliance (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/209 +comment (10Niklas Laxström) [19:03:29] 03(FIXED) Cannot select search results Opera Mobile - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41039 +comment (10Jon) [19:03:55] 03(mod) PostgreSQL: job_sha1 & Co. are missing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41196 +comment (10Tim Landscheidt) [19:04:43] Does Mediawiki have a special bot login, or shoudl i just create a dummy bot login [19:06:34] factor: MediaWiki has a user right called "bot", which can be assigned to an account by adding the account to the "bot" user group. [19:06:36] 04(REOPENED) SVG>PNG Incorrect text on path rendering - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/9420 +comment (10PRO) [19:06:58] (which can be done by "bureaucrat" users) [19:07:02] * greg-g waves goodbye! [19:07:06] factor: the sign up us the same for all accounts [19:07:11] is* [19:08:31] ok [19:08:42] yes though i saw something about bot , will check [19:09:06] Thanks Krinkle [19:10:18] New review: Hoo man; "(Tested and after a further look)" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23674 [19:11:14] 03(mod) mw.loader.load() fails in IE8 when loading external stylesheet - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41331 +comment (10Krinkle) [19:12:12] aude: you around? [19:13:16] New review: Nikerabbit; "I guess I would need to add that to installation instructions and hope Wikimedia will use something ..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29814 [19:15:13] 03(mod) mw.loader.load() fails in IE8 when loading external stylesheet - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41331 +comment (10Krinkle) [19:15:15] New review: Tim Landscheidt; "Only tested for column and index creation at the database level. Aaron, could you point out some Me..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29826 [19:15:27] New review: Krinkle; "Merge from master." [mediawiki/core] (REL1_20); V: 0 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29821 [19:15:28] Change merged: Krinkle; [mediawiki/core] (REL1_20) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29821 [19:15:36] robla: yes [19:15:55] 03(FIXED) Cologneblue missing search suggestions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41349 +comment (10Krinkle) [19:16:40] hi aude...both Reedy and RoanKattouw_away are away right now, but they left a few breadcrumbs on bug 37209 before they went afk [19:16:45] New review: Aaron Schulz; "Well pop() was always random (aside from a nominal effort to be fifo, and even then it had an "offse..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29814 [19:17:23] New review: Aaron Schulz; "Perhaps the default could be 'timestamp', since for small wikis I can't see it hurting anything." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29814 [19:17:28] 03(FIXED) Thumbnail generation broken on 1.19 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37632 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [19:17:34] see backlog from 8:53pm (?) your time [19:19:23] New review: Aaron Schulz; "You could set $wgJobRunRate (or whatever it's called) and change a template, then run runJobs.php. I..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29826 [19:20:14] robla: ok [19:20:40] alright....I actually pestered RoanKattouw_away in real life to get the details :) [19:20:49] (he's eating lunch) :) [19:21:04] aude: check out this diff: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/27528/1/includes/Title.php [19:21:51] aude: also, let me know if you don't have time for this [19:22:28] 03(mod) Thumbnail generation broken on 1.19 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37632 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [19:23:21] if you look 10 lines or so below that, you'll see the exact same "check the assumptions" comment, but not the same code to remove the exception [19:23:47] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "Broke up some long lines." [mediawiki/extensions/SwiftCloudFiles] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29828 [19:24:07] looks like we need to log but not throw for this [19:24:15] robla: okay [19:24:30] i can get to it in ~30 min or so [19:24:33] great, thanks! [19:24:34] ^demon: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/29828/ easy [19:24:47] it's just a wfDebug thing? [19:24:58] New patchset: Zfilipin; "Setup for Cucumber tests" [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29829 [19:24:58] New patchset: Zfilipin; "Feature: Edit, Scenario: Go to edit page" [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29830 [19:25:31] New patchset: Alex Monk; "Fix a couple of email parameter issues." [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23936 [19:25:56] Change merged: Demon; [mediawiki/extensions/SwiftCloudFiles] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29828 [19:27:05] aude: I think so [19:27:16] ok [19:27:53] <^demon> AaronSchulz: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/28695/ :) [19:27:56] * robla doesn't trust his current dev setup, or else he'd just do it [19:28:37] Change merged: Demon; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29625 [19:29:00] ^demon: in order to put something in the logs in production without throwing an exception, is wfDebug sufficient, or do we need to do something else? [19:29:35] <^demon> wfDebug is fine. [19:29:38] excellent, thanks! [19:30:04] <^demon> No problem. wfDebug() is silent to the user but we'll still get it. [19:30:06] I've encountered a strange problem – I just moved a wiki between servers (copied all the files, phpMyAdmin dump), and everything works fine, except that pages with parenthesis in the title gives me a 403 when I try to edit it. I can create new pages with parenthesis that behave normally, and I can move pages which originally had them in title, but still get the 403. Any ideas? [19:30:37] (I get the 403 when I submit the form) [19:30:43] Hello guys... can you help me with a small problem? I want to get the table info from whichever page... Can you give me a query for that? [19:31:34] New patchset: Krinkle; "(bug 41072) Add support for adding outer length in ve.ce offset getters" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28790 [19:31:56] Nikerabbit: heh, I need to actually change JobQueueGroup::get too ;) [19:32:32] New review: Krinkle; "Format commit message." [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28790 [19:32:39] 03(mod) HTML validation: Attribute srcset not allowed on element img at this point.v - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41346 +comment (10Brion Vibber) [19:33:22] New patchset: Hoo man; "(bug 36053) Login returnto doesn't work if title isn't in the URI" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29729 [19:33:42] New patchset: Guillom; "Always display author name as Firstname Lastname" [wikimedia/communications/WP-Victor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29831 [19:33:56] New review: Hoo man; "Per Parent5446's comments" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29729 [19:34:19] 03(mod) Text loss on edit page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41352 +comment (10Richard Guk) [19:34:21] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "[JobQueue] Added support for use rough-FIFO instead of random priority." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29814 [19:34:25] 03(NEW) Change Arabic Wikipedia logo - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41358 normal; MediaWiki: Interface; (mohamedstarwars) [19:34:52] Please guys is not something difficult for you :( [19:36:42] Where do I change a users password, I see a reset , but not a place to change. [19:37:10] New review: Aaron Schulz; "Did not update _header_cb()" [mediawiki/extensions/SwiftCloudFiles] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29767 [19:37:10] factor: Do you have shell access? [19:37:17] no [19:37:25] its on a free php site [19:37:29] Then I don't know [19:37:32] only php access [19:37:39] web filesystem [19:37:46] <^demon> factor: You can only change your own password. [19:37:53] <^demon> Or send a reset e-mail for someone else. [19:37:58] <^demon> Can't change someone else's [19:38:08] or my own it seems [19:38:10] Anyone know how to get the infobox from wikipedia? [19:38:50] !wptemplates [19:38:50] To copy templates from Wikipedia, use Special:Export and check the "Include templates" option to get all the sub-templates, then upload the file with Special:Import on your wiki. You'll also likely have to install the ParserFunctions extension and install/enable HTML tidy. You also might need some CSS from Wikipedia's Common.css and Monobook.css. You'll also need a lot of patience. [19:38:57] Liploc: this might help ^ [19:39:33] 03(mod) HTML validation: Attribute srcset not allowed on element img at this point.v - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41346 +comment (10Krenair) [19:39:33] I like that last piece of advice [19:39:36] <^demon> factor: You can change your own. On your preferences page, there's a link to "Change password." [19:39:47] I just want to get the xml format [19:40:17] Liploc: [[special:export]], then [19:40:23] actually, this might depend on what you mean here. [19:40:45] ^demon, ok thanks [19:40:49] For example I want the right info box of this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paranormal_Activity [19:41:03] New review: Cmcmahon; "Cucumber is standard and will be useful" [qa/browsertests] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29829 [19:41:22] Can you give me a working example for this? [19:42:14] New patchset: Adamw; "CN ability to target campaign to non geoip-able connections" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29811 [19:42:14] Liploc: i still don't know what you want. the infobox source code? the html? the data? [19:42:19] 03(NEW) Enabling WenFonts for the Arabic Wikipedia and its sister projects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41359 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WebFonts; (mohamedstarwars) [19:42:35] MatmaRex_: Maybe he needs the [[Special:ExpandTemplates]]'ified infobox? [19:43:08] New review: Cmcmahon; "Checked" [qa/browsertests] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29830 [19:43:27] Liploc: you want to use the template the same way its used on wikipedia? or copy the infobox as it looks on wikipedia to a non-wiki site? [19:43:41] MatmaRex: I want to download this info box in xml format so I can use it on my own site [19:43:48] 03(mod) Enabling WenFonts for the Arabic Wikipedia and its sister projects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41359 +comment (10Mohamed Ahmed) [19:44:01] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Emptying paragraph in Firefox with backspace adds
- 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41223 +comment (10Inez Korczyński) [19:44:16] Liploc: there is not xml format. do you mean the html? [19:44:19] no* [19:44:54] 03(mod) Back-button script blocks normal browser behaviour - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/23675 +comment (10Ian Osgood) [19:44:54] Liploc: go to [[Special:ExpandTemplates]] and copy the wikicode from the source of the wikipedia page. That'll give you the html code. [19:44:54] then, well, just copy it from the source code, and copy relevant styles [19:45:02] make sure to credits the authors properly... [19:45:09] to credit* [19:45:28] but there write this format supported json, jsonfm, php, phpfm, wddx, wddxfm, xml, xmlfm, yaml, yamlfm, rawfm, txt, txtfm, dbg, dbgfm, [19:49:52] New review: Parent5446; "Looks good, but why not do the same thing for tearDown()?" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29506 [19:51:12] 03(mod) LinkCache doesn't currently know about this title - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37209 +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [19:51:27] Liploc: you are talking about the API now [19:51:38] either i dont understand what you're trying to do [19:51:43] or you don;t understand it [19:51:52] you don't need the API to just copy some HTML [19:52:05] 03(mod) Mobile redirect strips https - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35215 +comment (10Max Semenik) [19:52:40] 03(NEW) Fatal exception of type MWException - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41360 normal; MediaWiki: Search; (mirzaha) [19:53:44] But I don't want to copy it manual... I need some way the user write the wikipedia page of the movie and my site automatically print the infobox [19:54:00] 03(mod) Fatal exception of type MWException - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41360 +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [19:54:13] I could do it with python but I don't want to web scrape [19:54:41] alright. you probably do need to use the API then [19:54:56] the documentation is here: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API [19:54:58] Yes and the documentation is so hard [19:55:05] look at the box to the right [19:55:10] find the item you want [19:55:33] 03(mod) Enabling WenFonts for the Arabic Wikipedia and its sister projects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41359 +shell; +comment (10Andre Klapper) [19:55:46] try and see if it works for you [19:56:07] you might want to play with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:ApiSandbox [19:56:07] New patchset: Adamw; "FU to skip bannerloader" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29832 [19:56:22] 03(mod) Enabling WebFonts for the Arabic Wikipedia and its sister projects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41359 summary (10Andre Klapper) [19:58:02] is somebody currently working on https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37209 ? it causes editors on pl.wikipedia to be unable to view their watchlists and recent changes right now... [19:58:05] andre__: you might know this ^ [19:58:10] sumanah: or maybe you? ^ [19:58:11] :( [19:58:31] Getting this on the latest REL1_20: [19:58:33] from within function �RecentChange::save.� Database returned error �1054: Unknown column 'rc_moved_to_ns' in 'field list' (localhost).� [19:58:45] Change merged: Mwalker; [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29832 [19:58:49] MatmaRex_, I don't really know who works on what in real, sorry [19:59:00] Is this because I usually use master and therefore my database is too up-to-date? [20:00:58] 03(mod) Fatal exception of type MWException - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41360 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [20:01:28] andre__: MatmaRex_ - I'll look at bug 37209 within the next hour as I meet with andre__ [20:01:30] thanks [20:01:34] !b 37209 [20:01:34] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37209 [20:01:46] Change merged: Adamw; [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29811 [20:02:08] !b 41298 [20:02:08] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41298 [20:02:11] !b 41343 [20:02:11] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41343 [20:02:16] !b 41352 [20:02:16] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41352 [20:10:54] 03(mod) Fatal exception of type MWException - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41360 (10palapa) [20:12:08] Change merged: Bsitu; [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23936 [20:17:36] aude: you have the fix for 37209? [20:18:43] 03(mod) Enable WebFonts for the Arabic projects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41359 summary; +comment (10Siebrand) [20:20:02] hi [20:20:24] how to match a svn version to a git ref? [20:20:59] want to "git remote add -m xxx" to git diff my local to the appropriate branch [20:21:17] New review: Alex Monk; "I just tested this on REL1_20 and it works, but I'm still waiting for it to be merged into master." [mediawiki/core] (REL1_20) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28944 [20:21:22] sorry -t not -m [20:21:36] faceface, I have a whole database of them for MW core [20:21:43] Any commits in particular? [20:21:57] robla: not ye [20:21:58] hrm... I wonder if this is really necessary [20:22:05] one moment Krenair [20:22:19] if someone else can do it quicker, fine with me [20:22:24] Revision: 97686 [20:22:33] (svn info says...) [20:23:17] Krenair: I should prolly just 'git remote mw add url' then attempt to diff [20:23:50] DanielFriesen: Your blog post was interesting, but isn't it unnecessary? [20:23:55] faceface, I think that's d894b94916a4dbf7db0fe57506e0d9d029aefa9c [20:24:09] thats not the md5sum for foobar is it? [20:24:10] ;-) [20:24:32] That should be the git commit hash for the SVN revision number you gave [20:24:44] Krenair: after I add the remote, would it be 'git diff master mw/refspec' ? [20:24:58] I don't know what you're talking about with remotes [20:25:03] Krenair: right [20:25:17] Krenair: I have a local MW that's in it's own repo [20:25:29] now I need to add the 'core' repo as a remote [20:25:42] ... at least I think ... [20:25:59] Krenair: i.e. this came from SVN, it wasn't a clone [20:26:03] Well it's ssh://USERNAME@gerrit.wikimedia.org:29418/mediawiki/core.git [20:26:13] not for me it isn't [20:26:27] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/p/mediawiki/core.git [20:26:35] Ah okay, so you don't have a Gerrit login [20:26:42] I assume not [20:26:45] * faceface adds the remote [20:29:11] maybe I'll go back to http://blog.redwerks.org/2012/09/28/using-git-to-manage-and-upgrade-a-wiki-with-modifications-to-core/ [20:29:28] I added the remote, but not sure if I should fetch now or what [20:29:57] New patchset: Aude; "fix 41352, restore pre-content handler version of mergeChangesInto function" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29872 [20:31:00] robla: Reedy it's urgent that someone reviews that patch ^ and please double check what i did [20:31:28] aude: what's that one a fix for [20:31:42] 41352? [20:32:01] !b 41352 [20:32:01] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41352 [20:32:20] robla: ^ [20:32:49] aude: eek, ok. ^demon can you look? [20:33:58] 03(mod) Text loss on edit page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41352 +comment (10Aude) [20:34:30] <^demon> Looking. [20:34:36] robla: yes, eek [20:35:35] i hope that's the only outstanding major issue (of course, other than the linkcache thing) [20:35:38] New patchset: Demon; "(bug 41352) restore pre-ContentHandler version of mergeChangesInto()" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29872 [20:35:50] <^demon> Tweaked the commit summary. Otherwise LGTM. [20:36:32] 03(mod) Internationalization to Portuguese - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/1995 (10mybugs.mail) [20:36:42] ^demon: Reedy is afk right now; can you merge and backport? [20:36:55] <^demon> Waiting for jenkins to say ok, then I'll do that. [20:36:56] ^demon: thanks [20:37:44] I get a 403 when I try to submit a page that has with newlines inside. Does that make any sense to anyone? :-) [20:37:58] Not that it should be a problem. Just seems weird. [20:38:05] Pladask: on your own wiki? [20:38:07] Yes [20:38:23] do you have mod_security installed/enabled? [20:38:33] (sorry, i don't have a solution, just making sure it's not more stuff being broken on wikipedia) [20:38:51] MatmaRex_: =) [20:38:53] New patchset: RobLa; "Bug 37209: change exception into debug entry" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29874 [20:38:59] Change merged: Demon; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29872 [20:39:07] Skizzerz: Unsure [20:39:18] Hi, i missed the bangalore devcamp registration deadline, is there a way to register now ? [20:39:19] what os are you running? [20:39:43] New patchset: Demon; "(bug 41352) restore pre-ContentHandler version of mergeChangesInto()" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29875 [20:39:46] (on the server with mediawiki, not your local os) [20:40:32] how can there be path conflict :( [20:41:51] <^demon> aude: There's a merge conflict. Needs resolving. [20:41:58] ack [20:42:11] Skizzerz: Linux [20:42:49] Pladask: which version though? ubuntu? centos? [20:42:54] gah....second time my computer froze in an hour [20:43:19] <^demon> aude: Fixed. [20:43:19] New patchset: Demon; "(bug 41352) restore pre-ContentHandler version of mergeChangesInto()" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29875 [20:43:25] trying to figure out what you have installed so I can give accurate directions [20:43:27] Change merged: Demon; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29875 [20:43:51] 03(mod) Wikidata merge mistakes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41298 +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [20:44:29] <^demon> aude, robla: Sync'd [20:44:42] Skizzerz: Don't know, uname -a says 2.6.32-279.9.1.el6.x86_64. It's a webhost thing I bought yesterday, and I'm not too good with this stuff. [20:45:04] ^demon: yay! [20:45:18] ok, that looks like either fedora or centos [20:45:20] * aude confused with doing merge conflicts + deployment branch [20:45:28] excellent, thanks! we should probably do something with 29874 as well, though word of warning....I haven't executed that code [20:45:53] Change merged: Demon; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29874 [20:47:15] so, there should be a file /etc/httpd/logs/error_log [20:47:37] New patchset: Demon; "Bug 37209: change exception into debug entry" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29878 [20:47:37] if not, check /var/log for "apache" or "apache2" or "httpd" and see if there is an error_log inside of that [20:47:48] Change merged: Demon; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29878 [20:47:48] or /var/log/httpd/error_log /var/apache2/httpd/error_log [20:48:02] yes, that ^ [20:49:10] <^demon> aude, robla: Also deployed the MWException -> wfDebug() change. [20:49:27] once you find it, open it for viewing by typing "cd /path/to/error_log" (without the quotes, replace that path with where you found the log file) and then "less error_log" (again without the quotes). If you get a permission denied error when trying to do that last one, run it with sudo. Then look through the log and find the error message that relates to that 403 [20:49:54] can i tell people affected by https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37209 that this should work again now? [20:49:58] (on pl.wiki) [20:49:59] ^demon: yay! [20:50:26] ^demon: ^ [20:50:38] or is it not deployed yet? [20:52:11] MatmaRex_: If I'm not mistaken, c29878 only adds debug info, there's no fix yet [20:52:17] yes, but [20:52:32] by work, i mean the watchlist being accessible. [20:52:40] like it was before contenthandler merge. [20:52:47] MatmaRex_: it should fail more gracefully and siliently i think [20:52:54] but doesn't fix the bug [20:53:04] i'm asking one question, will the watchlist and recentlchanges be accessible now? [20:53:10] for users affected by this? [20:53:22] i think so [20:53:22] Skizzerz: Can't find any Apache logs ... Runs on another box, perhaps? [20:53:22] i don't really care about internals right now :) [20:53:31] is it deployed? [20:53:32] but don't quote me :) [20:54:11] MatmaRex_: yes, please do [20:54:11] hmm, then I don't really know how to help you [20:54:25] welp [20:54:25] Skizzerz: Thanks for your help, like I said, it won't be a problem. Just thought it seemed weird. But that it's a security measure of some sort sounds plausible. [20:54:26] i just got a fatal myself [20:54:33] when submitting achange that would result in an edit conflict [20:54:39] had it not fatalled out [20:54:39] PHP fatal error in /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.21wmf2/includes/content/ContentHandler.php line 69: [20:54:39] Argument 1 passed to ContentHandler::getContentText() must implement interface Content, string given, called in /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.21wmf2/includes/EditPage.php on line 1479 and defined [20:54:56] hrm [20:56:20] New patchset: Nikerabbit; "Optimization to message table" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29879 [20:56:20] New patchset: Nikerabbit; "Stop passing file contents to collections..." [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29880 [20:57:31] 03(mod) Fix gender in user namespaces for Portuguese wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31986 (10mybugs.mail) [20:59:25] 03(mod) Deleted images still appear - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41343 +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [20:59:26] New review: Matmarex; "I belive that this causes the following fatal when an edit conflict would happen:" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29875 [21:00:26] * robla assumes aude is looking into the ContentHandler fatal [21:02:39] New patchset: Nikerabbit; "Optimization to message table" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29879 [21:03:20] 03(mod) Text loss on edit page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41352 +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [21:04:15] 03(mod) [Regression] Edit conflict thrown despite editing a completely different section - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41353 +comment (10Rainer Rillke @commons.wikimedia) [21:04:29] New patchset: Aude; "follow up for edit conflicts" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29881 [21:05:22] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/29881/ [21:05:27] 03(mod) Fatal exception of type MWException - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41360 +comment (10palapa) [21:05:44] * aude is tired :( [21:06:25] aude: am i blind, or does this just change the variable name? [21:06:25] or is something passed by reference there? [21:06:29] MatmaRex_: it's reference there [21:06:33] that would be the problem [21:06:40] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Support for format aliases in smwdoc" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29882 [21:07:29] * aude annoyed with edit page (and virtually no phpunit tests for that) [21:07:54] 03(mod) Deleted images still appear - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41343 +comment (10Jesús Martínez Novo) [21:07:54] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "Note: I have not tested this yet" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29882 [21:07:57] 03(mod) Text loss on edit page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41352 +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [21:08:08] So when I was nominated for Echo +2 I looked at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/%2B2 [21:08:31] 03(mod) Text loss on edit page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41352 +comment (10Aude) [21:08:33] Immediately I've realised that it's core-central [21:09:21] +2 to extensions is almost as big a deal as core in certain situations [21:11:34] 03(FIXED) Cannot type 9 in search on android - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38984 +comment (10Yuvi Panda) [21:12:00] ooh just saw the new wikipedia fundraising banner [21:16:09] New review: Nikerabbit; "This just renames a variable, is there something else going on?" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29881 [21:18:27] New review: Aude; "$this->mergeChangesInto( $content ) " [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29881 [21:21:33] 03(mod) Connectivity interferes with saved articles (saved pages do not work offline) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40013 +comment (10Yuvi Panda) [21:21:48] Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29881 [21:24:41] hi andre__ [21:25:02] andre__: are you able to reproduce https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37209 ? [21:25:49] 03(mod) Fatal exception of type MWException - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41360 +comment (10Krenair) [21:25:57] haven't tried yet [21:26:08] sumanah: it appears to be fixed [21:26:08] looks like yet another MWException... sigh [21:26:08] uh, not fixed [21:26:15] but "relieved", let's say, stuff stopped blowing up [21:26:43] andre__: about https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41360, he can't do it, we'd need somebody with log access [21:26:55] i'm sure you know better than me who would that be [21:27:06] New review: Nikerabbit; "Since Content objects are immutable this should fix it. The code really needs clarification though a..." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29881 [21:27:06] MatmaRex_: andre__ is new enough that he might not! [21:27:26] :) [21:27:27] however, andre__ - do you know how to find people with special powers on particular wikis? hint: look on the SpecialPages page [21:29:18] 03(mod) LinkCache doesn't currently know about this title - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37209 +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [21:29:33] sumanah, I see, Special:GlobalUsers [21:29:34] 03(ASSIGNED) WikiLove installation on Urdu Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40848 -shellpolicy +shell; +comment (10Dereckson) [21:29:47] plop [21:30:15] huh, why would anyone want wikilove on their wiki. [21:30:17] Messenger. [21:30:44] sumanah, must the Gerrit/labs access page be handled by you? or can other people do it as well? [21:30:51] 03(mod) Connectivity interferes with saved articles (saved pages do not work offline) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40013 +comment (10Yuvi Panda) [21:31:20] Amgine: aw :( [21:31:37] Krenair: jeremyb and several other people have the ability to make accounts [21:31:42] Btw: it's still reported today as breaking on pl. [21:32:05] sumanah, still no idea which exact user group I'm looking for while going through "User group rights" [21:32:12] New patchset: Aude; "revert gerrit change 29597 for TextContent constructor" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29800 [21:32:12] sumanah, okay, it just looks like you're the only one that's doing it :) [21:32:20] somebody needs to backport and deploy https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/29881/ . [21:32:26] andre__: it's separate from the log stuff, I just wanted to make sure you knew about that page [21:32:35] sumanah, ah, I see. thanks [21:32:56] I see a few done by jeremyb recently [21:33:10] MatmaRex_: when you say "we'd need somebody with log access" you basically mean someone from Ops? [21:33:25] i'm not sure who has it :) probably yes [21:33:54] aude: is someone backporting your changeset "Change I511b7866: follow up for edit conflicts"? [21:33:56] New patchset: Amire80; "(bug 40693) Refactor font selector creation code" [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28520 [21:33:56] WMF structure is big and i can never find somebody in charge of the stuff that's broken when i need to. [21:34:09] MatmaRex_: My team and I are trying to fix that [21:34:25] MatmaRex_: for example: as Andre ramps up, he will be better at being the liaison who does that [21:34:42] MatmaRex_: also, it's on my TODO list to develop a sort of maintainership table of who knows a lot about what [21:34:52] yeah, that's why you're my go-to person when i need somebody to complain to ;) [21:34:53] sumanah: i think it's being double checked [21:35:01] 03(mod) WikiLove installation on Urdu Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40848 +patch-in-gerrit; +comment (10Dereckson) [21:35:07] I'm hoping to make big strides on the maintainership doc this week, MatmaRex_ , and that is more scalable than I am [21:35:07] :) [21:35:13] :) [21:35:36] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "follow up for edit conflicts" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29887 [21:35:43] but in the interim: if it's code, you can at least do a "message:foo" search in Gerrit to find changesets, and thus the people associated with them, who have worked on that stuff recently [21:35:51] MatmaRex_, anyone can backport a fix into a WMF/release branch, which is basically a suggestion to deploy it [21:36:09] New review: Siebrand; "w00t! That's serious progress." [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master); V: 0 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29879 [21:36:10] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29879 [21:36:14] You just need to convince a deployer to actually merge and deploy it, obviously [21:36:20] Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29887 [21:36:29] i think chad has been deploying stuff today [21:36:34] MatmaRex_: and in #wikimedia-operations there is now sort of an on-duty liaison that changes regularly, which is basically the person you can talk to to ask "who in Ops should I talk to about this problem?" [21:36:36] oh, and aaron just backported it. [21:37:03] Nikerabbit: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/29879/ makes me happy! [21:37:08] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29431 [21:37:11] that's a nicely short and sweet commit summary :D [21:37:18] sumanah, who is this person? The one marked as being 'on rt duty' in the topic? [21:37:32] Krenair: I think so. [21:37:32] New patchset: Siebrand; "Stop passing file contents to collections..." [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29880 [21:37:58] Krenair: Yes, because the initial intent was to deal with questions like "What's happening with this RT ticket?" [21:38:04] sumanah: thanks, i don't know [21:38:05] Krenair: They just expanded it :) [21:38:06] sumanah: there are too many channels :( [21:38:09] Krenair: "rt duty" is a shorthand term for "the interrupts rotation" [21:38:23] Okay. That's not very clear :) [21:38:40] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29880 [21:38:42] MatmaRex_: you can see where the tradeoffs are in the "too many communications channels" problem, right? [21:39:21] Krenair: yeah, it isn't. But I hesitate to rename anything because it should be Ops deciding this stuff .... you could ask them to? [21:39:32] MatmaRex_: did i see that right, the main thing you want is someone to push a mediawiki/core change? [21:39:44] sumanah: yeah, i understand that people have specific things they care about, and specific channels for these things [21:39:58] mutante: already happened, thanks :) [21:40:02] alright [21:40:21] (people in the SF office have just mentioned "git add interactive" and called it great) [21:40:28] sumanah: but this causes nobody to reply to questions on any channel [21:40:29] 03(mod) Fix gender in user namespaces for Portuguese wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31986 +comment (10Siebrand) [21:40:47] sumanah: and everybody probably getting angry when i copy-paste my message [21:41:01] MatmaRex_: Effective communication is a hard problem [21:41:06] sumanah: git add -p is the same, but with less cruft :) [21:41:12] RoanKattouw: ^ [21:41:19] (but less features!) [21:41:28] MatmaRex_: I think the actual cause of people not replying to questions is that they are BUSY, not that there are too many channels. [21:41:44] MatmaRex_: you can kind of tell from the repoistory you are making changes to who would be the team to talk to. operations/puppet is more ops, and mediawiki/core is more platform engineering [21:41:48] MatmaRex_: We talk to other people who are nearby. We go get a sandwich. We code. Etc [21:41:56] sumanah: Yeah I know [21:42:09] sumanah: yes, of course, i'm not pestering people eating their sandwiches all the time [21:42:15] only when i'm, you know, getting fatals when editing [21:42:23] MatmaRex_: and in general, if you have problems getting answers to your questions, you should think of more effective approaches :) [21:42:25] How can I create a page with wiki functions? [21:42:28] and then some body starts working on it and i get no feedback [21:42:29] but of course ECT is also here to help [21:42:31] somebody* [21:42:31] New review: Siebrand; "Currently merge conflicted again (for the 3rd time today)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27164 [21:42:58] MatmaRex_: ok, that's a problem, if you report a problem and then don't get feedback or notifications that it is being worked on [21:43:13] can you give me links for a few times this happened, so I can follow up, MatmaRex_? [21:44:53] parts of today's chat log since 1800 UTC here and on #wikimedia-tech :) sorry, i can't be bothered to go through it, and probably neither should you, as it's slightly pointless :) [21:45:00] Change merged: Ori.livneh; [mediawiki/extensions/Vector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29819 [21:45:06] sumanah: even aaron's latest merge [21:45:06] and backport [21:45:21] i only got to know somebody's working on it when the commit was pushed... [21:45:49] (and i asked about the backport on here and #wikimedia-tech) [21:45:52] MatmaRex_: ok, this was g 29887 ? [21:46:04] MatmaRex_: consider reporting issues as Bugzilla bugs, then you can add yourself as a CC: [21:46:37] mutante: should i report gerrit changesets to be backported as bugzilla bugs? that's madness. [21:46:55] sumanah: uh, i don't even know right now [21:47:01] let me see [21:47:15] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/29881/ [21:47:25] so yes, that's the same as 29887 [21:47:30] 03(ASSIGNED) Localize project name and namespaces on hsb.wiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41328 +shell; +comment (10Dereckson) [21:47:34] unusually, this Gerrit change does not link to a bug in the commit summary [21:47:34] MatmaRex_: hmm, not sure how minor that change was, it just seems the best answer to making sure you always get updates when people work on stuff [21:47:51] was this for bug 41280 ? [21:47:54] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41280 [21:48:05] no! [21:48:15] sumanah: it was a followup for https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/29875/ [21:48:18] so bug 41352 [21:48:48] right [21:48:54] * sumanah looks [21:49:18] MatmaRex_: so you saw that I cc'd you on that bug [21:49:43] 03(mod) Text loss on edit page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41352 +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [21:49:52] hi all. how do I create a user account from a browser, given I'm in the "sysop" group and logged in? there's no such special page and there's no self-register form [21:49:57] hi pilot [21:50:13] pilot: can you go to Special:CreateAccount ? [21:50:21] sumanah: yeah, then i linked the second gerrit commit there myself [21:50:26] let me try [21:50:29] and right now i commented about it being fixed [21:50:35] since nobody else did yet [21:50:56] i understand being busy and being at work and everything [21:51:11] but, i dunno, i'd imagine that user-visible errors on the live site would have some kind of a priority [21:51:14] MatmaRex_: ABSOLUTELY they do [21:51:16] sumanah: thanks, it seems to do the trick [21:51:25] MatmaRex_: I honestly think this is an exception [21:51:44] yeah, well, there were a few of them all at once, so it's understandable one again [21:51:59] but it seems like today i was the only one who cared about them [21:52:08] 03(mod) Text loss on edit page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41352 +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [21:52:08] MatmaRex_: you weren't. [21:52:14] 03(mod) HTML validation: Attribute srcset not allowed on element img at this point.v - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41346 +comment (10Brion Vibber) [21:52:18] MatmaRex_: I think that we need to work on our communication for sure [21:52:37] MatmaRex_: did you see https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Water_cooler/technical#Improving_communication_between_your_wiki_and_.22tech_people.22 or any of those? [21:53:01] i'm not blaming anyone, i came here, i poked people, i commented on some bugs, and they got fixed rather quickly [21:53:01] Guillaume just posted that to some Village Pumps and other sites, please respond at your favorite wiki where it was posted [21:53:09] MatmaRex_: yes [21:53:42] New patchset: Robmoen; "Adjust right side alignment of insertChars container on editPage." [mediawiki/extensions/Vector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29889 [21:53:43] MatmaRex_: it sounds like your specific suggestions are: when we are jumping onto an issue to fix it, take 30 seconds to comment on the bug first saying that the fix is on its way? [21:53:56] * aude tries to make a more regular habit of being at village pump, etc. on enwiki and commons [21:54:20] but can't be everywhere and all languages, of course :) [21:54:23] sumanah: my specific sugestion would be "somebody please reply on IRC" [21:54:51] :) [21:54:54] MatmaRex_: but why IRC specifically, when BZ is fed to IRC via a bot, and makes sure to email the interested people, and is more searchable/ [21:55:02] ? [21:55:08] because i'm asking on irc? :) [21:55:10] MatmaRex_: i think, make at least this week, some staff are in SF when normally maybe they are elsewhere [21:55:31] it's been unusually quiet on IRC during european daytime [21:55:34] just reply anywhere, really [21:56:16] i've got it all open and refreshing when trying to get people to look at issues, irc, gerrit, bugzilla [21:56:20] MatmaRex_: ok. I think it's fair to ask for that to be the general rule, but I also think it's fair that sometimes a question will be ignored for a little while, while the most knowledgable person is heads-down in the code [21:56:30] i can handle disseminating the news myself to other mediums :) [21:56:52] a simple "MatmaRex: looking..." would go a long way [21:57:04] Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27420 [21:57:04] MatmaRex_: btw are you on the tech-ambassadors mailing list? https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/Ambassadors https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-ambassadors [21:57:20] i'm not sure, i'm on like six of them [21:57:40] if i wasnt, i am now [21:57:45] great :) [21:58:29] so, we're working on it; I really do think that this was just an odd and unusual circumstance, MatmaRex_. If you run into this again please tell me, but I honestly think it's not going to happen very often [21:59:12] but I may be wrong, in which case I will have to figure out how to nicely ask people to change their habit [21:59:58] Change merged: Ori.livneh; [mediawiki/extensions/Vector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29889 [22:00:13] sumanah: did you see this? https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/25170/ [22:00:17] thanks, sumanah :) [22:00:39] You're welcome, MatmaRex_! Always grateful for your help in testing, reporting, communication, and fixes [22:00:40] saper: looking [22:02:42] saper: I have seen it in the past, and I have sent out a few "hey look at this" notes to individuals or mwusers.com [22:03:00] ok [22:03:14] shouldn't go to gerrit in the first place [22:04:03] saper: What would you like? you can point to https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/New_skins_system and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Database_reports/User_preferences#Skin in the discussion you start [22:09:52] is there a convenient way to grab the 7 packaged extensions from git? [22:10:57] just working on SemanticBundle from git... [22:11:08] would be nice to have the other 7... [22:11:21] git clone in a loop :o [22:11:38] back in a bit [22:12:14] Nikerabbit: I'll clone you! [22:12:45] faceface: that would be nice, I need some bugs fixed [22:12:59] hehe, you'd never work with yourself [22:13:16] so semantic bundle from git uses svn... strange [22:13:31] yeah it's pretty old [22:13:43] they have not updated to scripts to git time yet [22:17:04] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "[JobQueue] Added support for use rough-FIFO instead of random priority." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29814 [22:18:30] I guess it requires some leets [22:20:58] what's the template for grabbing an extension from git? [22:21:18] should I bother adding externals to core, or just clone in the extensions directory? [22:22:34] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git#Extensions [22:22:34] ty [22:30:27] 03(mod) Deleted images still appear - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41343 +comment (10Aude) [22:35:49] 03(FIXED) Deleted images still appear - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41343 +comment (10Aude) [22:42:21] 03(mod) Supporting MobileFrontend on beta labs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40605 +comment (10Arthur Richards) [22:42:47] whats the syntax highlighting extension of choice these days? [22:46:10] now I should branch all the extensions to stable? [22:46:11] faceface: geshi? [22:46:24] faceface: that's used on Wikipedia, afaik the most popular one. [22:46:42] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SyntaxHighlight_GeSHi [22:46:42] Krinkle: sorry, looking for GeShi but it's 'SyntaxHighlig_GeSHi' or whatever [22:46:42] ty [22:47:07] google "mediawiki geshi" would've brought above link to #1 as well ;-) [22:47:21] Krinkle: it should be easy to have a list of stable extension branches for a given mw branch right? [22:47:26] hehe [22:47:42] I've got a lmgtfy sticker on my computer to remind me ;-) [22:47:46] faceface: can you rephrase that question? [22:47:58] a list of what for what? [22:48:10] I just added extensions as git submodules [22:48:18] but I guess I'm on the head commit of each? [22:48:24] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Please support copy and paste from different surfaces - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41193 +comment (10Inez Korczyński) [22:48:57] hmm... cd extensions/Validator; git status; # Not currently on any branch. [22:49:07] Yeah [22:49:22] faceface: Well, you're probably on "whatever commit they were at when you added them as submodules" [22:49:24] Krinkle: Validator is barfing, so I want to put it on a stable branch [22:50:04] a simple list of stable branches per extension should be easy to apply... I guess that's the aim of semantic bundle [22:50:37] * faceface tries to hack the list of 'externals' into git branch commands... [22:50:41] 03(mod) Localize project name and namespaces on hsb.wiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41328 +comment (10Dereckson) [22:51:20] Ah I see [22:51:24] faceface: Are you trying to pin Validator at a specific commit? [22:51:35] yup, SB says REL_0_4_14 [22:51:42] In that case, go into the Validator dir, run git log -1 to figure out where it's at [22:51:49] faceface: a submodule? Or just an extra git-clone inside extensions/ ? [22:51:50] so I think I need ... git branch -t REL_0_4_14 origin/REL_0_4_14 [22:51:58] To move it somewhere else, run git checkout inside the Validator dir, then git commit -a in the parent dir [22:52:09] faceface: just "git checkout REL_0_4_14" will do that for you [22:52:23] if it is a remote branch, it'll auto-create a local one that tracks the remote. [22:52:27] Krinkle: within this submodule directory? [22:52:32] cool [22:52:47] faceface: are you sure it is a submodule? [22:53:30] Krinkle: yes [22:53:53] I just 'init'ed it as per the instructions here: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git#Extensions [22:54:07] You know, I almost had site update licked ;-) [22:54:12] then along comes git ;-) [22:54:27] error: pathspec 'REL_0_4_14' did not match any file(s) known to git. [22:54:59] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?p=mediawiki/extensions/Validator.git;a=heads [22:55:03] There is no such branch [22:55:04] origin/0.4.x aparently [22:55:09] right [22:55:10] git branch -r [22:55:23] faceface: wait, so how do you have stuff set up? [22:55:24] Krinkle: I should .... [22:55:30] faceface: mediawiki/ with index.php etc. and where is extensions? [22:55:45] did you remove the default extensions dir and do a git clone on top? [22:55:53] or using symlinks? [22:55:53] my mw-dir has the mw core git repo as a remote [22:56:11] faceface: yes, but you say you use the meta-repo with all extensions and just init individual extensions [22:56:22] Krinkle: right, moved the old dir out and did that clone command from the manual [22:56:36] yes [22:56:59] git clone https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/p/mediawiki/extensions.git [22:57:19] that complained that extensions exists and is non-empty [22:57:33] so I moved extensions to extensions-old, and re-issued that command [22:58:02] then in extnsions did 'git submodule update --init SomeExtension' for everything I could, and copied a few from ../extensions-old back in [22:58:36] now I want to put flaky extensions onto stable ... tags I guess [22:59:02] Krinkle: also... semantic bundle is a list of extension versions (svn tags I think) [22:59:17] So I'll use it's recommendations of where to put my extensions [22:59:42] k [22:59:59] should I add back the .gitignore from the old extensions directory? [23:00:17] or is git going to play nice with the submodules [23:01:13] ok 0.4.14 tag does exists [23:01:27] I just git co ? [23:01:52] HEAD is now at 0b32274... 0.4.14 [23:02:21] gah... now to repeat for everything in bundle [23:04:14] 03(mod) Fatal exception of type MWException - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41360 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [23:04:31] Can Boilerplate ext. just add coent to a specific namespace i.e ABC******** [23:04:43] just wild card behind the 3 chars [23:05:03] so anytime a page is created it generates preloaded text for that page [23:06:25] New patchset: Adamw; "FU for Database Prefixes" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29634 [23:06:33] Change merged: Adamw; [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29634 [23:09:46] 03(mod) Change Arabic Wikipedia logo for reaching 200,000 articles - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41358 +shell; summary; +comment (10Andre Klapper) [23:10:37] perl -ne 'next if!$i++; /^(.*)\s+.*\/REL_(.*)\/$/ or die $_; $v=$2; $v=~tr/_/./; print "cd $1 && git checkout $v && cd ../\n"' SemanticBundle/externals [23:11:43] faceface: is that a question [23:11:48] ? [23:15:43] New review: Reedy; "A point regards to the "3 extensions"" [mediawiki/extensions/Memento] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29812 [23:16:36] Krinkle: it's perl, to switch to the given tag for those extensions [23:16:46] works in about 50% of cases... [23:16:48] mostly error: pathspec '0.1' did not match any file(s) known to git. [23:16:52] I mean the comments you made before that [23:16:54] i.e. ... manual [23:17:29] Krinkle: it was a question, but I forgot tags aint in remote the're created locally [23:17:36] so alles gut [23:18:02] just 17 extensions to manually checkout ... [23:18:03] New patchset: Ori.livneh; "QUnit tests; Config var; Data model getter/setter" [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29894 [23:18:15] 03(mod) Saving settings form desktop browser sends me to desktop site - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41339 +comment (10Arthur Richards) [23:18:29] New review: Krinkle; "The main extension entry point php file should be title case and match the repository name (memento...." [mediawiki/extensions/Memento] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29812 [23:19:16] including ParserFunctions... all my if's are broken [23:19:17] sigh [23:20:41] oh joy [23:20:53] ParserFunctions has no tags... or branches [23:21:11] Krinkle: does your db include extensions? [23:21:21] and tags for that matter? [23:21:38] faceface: db? [23:21:44] svn -> git [23:22:11] Revision: 97686 of Parser functions... [23:22:33] faceface: " just 17 extensions to manually checkout ..." [23:22:33] wait... how come there are no branches or tags dagnabit [23:22:36] New patchset: Ori.livneh; "QUnit tests; Config var; Data model getter/setter" [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29894 [23:22:46] faceface: are you checking out parser functions from svn? [23:22:46] it is in git [23:23:01] Krinkle: it's in git, but it may as well not be [23:23:06] faceface: we didn't import branches/tags from before the git migration, it was a clean start [23:23:22] I thought we did, maybe I was wrong [23:23:23] if a repo doesn't have branches/tags yet, it means it is still in the same development cycle as when it was imported [23:23:29] Krinkle: should all my {{ [23:23:31] You would have to ask Chad to be sure [23:23:31] in other words, 1.20-1.21 [23:23:35] should all my if's be broken? [23:23:58] faceface: what mw version are you on? [23:23:58] {{#if: | }} [23:24:13] HEAD of PArserFunctions, but 1.19.2 MW [23:24:27] faceface: just use master of anything that doesn't have branches/tags [23:24:34] * AaronSchulz assumes Nikerabbit is gone [23:24:42] Krinkle: but it's broke :( [23:24:44] ? [23:24:57] Krinkle: http://seqanswers.com/w/index.php?title=FlowSim [23:24:59] you gotta give more details if you expect a useful answer :P [23:25:25] I don't normally show tons of {{#if:|}}s in my pages, it confuses the users [23:25:34] faceface: you don't have parserfunctions installed [23:25:40] install it? [23:25:44] Krinkle: sorry, issue blead, I'll try to provide required information [23:25:49] * faceface swoons [23:26:03] you seem to be doing that already [23:26:13] I'd say continue your journey, you're doing fine. [23:26:24] Krinkle: http://seqanswers.com/wiki/Special:Version [23:26:41] installing ParserFunctions is mostly what I've been babbling about [23:26:42] I was looking at that already [23:26:53] what about the... oh [23:27:07] * faceface was confused [23:27:17] DOH [23:27:22] now I understand [23:27:32] PF got dropped from SemanticBundle [23:27:37] I'm such an idiot [23:28:12] 14(WFM) AFT4 call to action issue on Labs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33173 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [23:28:19] 03(NEW) Lost file - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41361 normal; Wikimedia: Media storage; (federicoleva) [23:29:26] Krinkle: couple of 3 extensions were installed by SB, but I need to manually install them in LocalSettings.php now [23:30:02] Krinkle: thanks for encouragement... I always end up feeling like a freak after 4 hours in here ;-) [23:30:02] 03(mod) Lost file - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41361 +comment (10Nemo_bis) [23:30:36] 03(mod) Lost file - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41361 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [23:31:04] magic: http://seqanswers.com/w/index.php?title=FlowSim [23:33:14] andre__: got a sec? [23:33:40] 03(mod) 404 Not Found for some files - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41361 normal->04CRIT; summary; +comment (10Andre Klapper) [23:33:40] robla, sure [23:33:45] * robla wants to swing by andre__'s desk and talk about the image scaler stuff [23:36:42] faceface: freaks, geeks, ... [23:38:03] New patchset: Kaldari; "Echo: Add "reverted" notification for when a user's edit is reverted." [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15959 [23:39:51] Krinkle: once I 'git co ' how do I get 'git status' to tell me I'm on that tag? [23:39:54] (for future reference) [23:43:34] 03(NEW) Error creating thumbnail: Metadata uses too much space - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41362 normal; MediaWiki extensions: PagedTiffHandler; (federicoleva) [23:44:10] New patchset: Kaldari; "Echo: Add "reverted" notification for when a user's edit is reverted." [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15959 [23:46:03] New patchset: Katie Horn; "Adding the AUTHENTICATIONINDICATOR node to all GC transactions, and defaulting to '0' as per their new instructions." [mediawiki/extensions/DonationInterface] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29897 [23:47:09] Change merged: Pgehres; [mediawiki/extensions/DonationInterface] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29897 [23:47:24] New patchset: Catrope; "Remove 'internal' property from DM nodes" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29898 [23:47:31] AaronSchulz and TimStarling: we should probably do a little legwork now figuring out if there are bigger problems with the image scalers based on https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons:Village_pump&oldid=81616486#More_image_scaler_problems [23:47:45] (i.e. https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41361 ) [23:48:05] New patchset: Trevor Parscal; "Documentation fixes" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29899 [23:48:05] New patchset: Trevor Parscal; "Fix annotation object creation in SurfaceFragment" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29900 [23:48:05] New patchset: Trevor Parscal; "Add ve.dm.SurfaceFragment.getAnnotations()" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29901 [23:48:06] New patchset: Trevor Parscal; "Add ve.dm.Node.hasMatchingAncestor()" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29902 [23:48:06] New patchset: Trevor Parscal; "Add ve.dm.Node.hasAttributes()" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29903 [23:48:06] New patchset: Trevor Parscal; "Add ve.dm.Surface.has{Past,Future}State, add docs" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29904 [23:48:07] New patchset: Trevor Parscal; "Add ve.Action, ve.ActionFactory, subclasses" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29905 [23:48:07] New patchset: Trevor Parscal; "UI context reorganization, inspector rewrite, iframe refactor, icon generalization" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29906 [23:48:07] New patchset: Trevor Parscal; "Tools changes" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29907 [23:48:08] New patchset: Trevor Parscal; "Add commands to ve.Surface" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29908 [23:48:14] a lot of those just looked like images with xml or metadata errors, not sure how many of those are interesting [23:48:23] AaronSchulz, TimStarling, robla: and https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41362 for "Metadata uses too much space" [23:48:29] (separate ticket) [23:48:29] can we revert to lucid? [23:48:39] it looks like we have plenty of test cases to work through [23:49:12] New patchset: Catrope; "Fix JS error in ve.setProp()" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29911 [23:49:13] 03(mod) 404 File Not Found for some files - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41361 summary; +comment (10Andre Klapper) [23:49:20] 03(mod) Error creating thumbnail: Metadata uses too much space - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41362 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [23:49:40] New patchset: Catrope; "DocumentSynchronizer fix and cleanup" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29912 [23:49:41] TimStarling: in principle, I'd be for it. logistically, not sure if ops can make it happen before notpeter starts work tomorrow [23:50:01] New review: Aaron Schulz; "How does work well? Getting rid of the negative cache and hit counting? Since the cache is not deter..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29793 [23:50:22] since woosters isn't here, I suppose I should bring this up in #wikimedia-operations [23:51:06] robla: I'd mark these two tickets as blocking next wmf deployment until there's a fix or a rollback, would you agree? [23:51:39] 03(mod) 404 error for some files - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39615 (10Andre Klapper) [23:51:58] andre__: this is kind of a tricky case, because this is likely not a MediaWiki issue [23:52:09] robla, oh true [23:52:26] yeah, unrelated to deployment then. [23:54:27] 03(mod) 404 File Not Found for some files - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41361 +comment (10Nemo_bis) [23:57:10] New review: Tychay; "Andrew concedes the point. :-)" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15746 [23:57:31] * MagiC3PO feels silly [23:57:32] New review: Tychay; "Andrew concedes the point." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15746 [23:57:47] I went to #wikimedia, instead of #mediawiki [23:58:15] MagiC3PO: just don't go to pediawiki