[00:01:14] New patchset: Kaldari; "Update CentralNotice to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30102 [00:01:34] Change merged: Kaldari; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30102 [00:02:49] New patchset: SPQRobin; "Remove redundant logo messages" [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaIncubator] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30103 [00:03:31] Change merged: Mwalker; [mediawiki/extensions/FundraiserLandingPage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30101 [00:04:12] TimStarling: for bug 41376, might it help to set wgOggThumbLocation = false to use ffmpeg? [00:04:27] I assume the later is less broken with precise [00:04:57] 03(mod) ?action=purge on the file description page no longer regenerates thumbnails - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41130 +comment (10Rob Lanphier) [00:05:14] you would have to actually test it to find out if it was less broken [00:05:44] specifically, the amount of time it takes to seek, and what it does when there is only one keyframe in a file [00:05:48] I meant less broken than in lucid [00:05:51] Change merged: SPQRobin; [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaIncubator] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30103 [00:06:00] those are the reasons we don't use ffmpeg [00:06:01] but yeah, it would need some testing around [00:06:30] I tested a few of the files that were posted on the commons village pump [00:06:47] some of them had skeleton packets, and I don't think oggThumb supports that [00:06:54] doesn't tmh use ffmpeg? [00:07:01] New patchset: Pgehres; "Updating FundraiserLandingPage to master (I4b1dcd38)" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30104 [00:07:01] TimStarling: we're going through https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41371 [00:07:16] Change merged: Pgehres; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30104 [00:07:23] yes, and maybe they documented their reasons and their testing procedure [00:07:37] if they did, that might make the job easier [00:08:18] !b 41374 [00:08:18] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41374 [00:08:41] they use it for webm [00:09:36] maybe that was why, I don't see much in the README [00:09:47] New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Add ext.Experiments.lib as a dependency" [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30105 [00:09:56] kaldari: ^^ [00:10:17] if you have a sec [00:10:32] looking [00:11:08] Change merged: Kaldari; [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30105 [00:11:52] New patchset: Adamw; "skip bannerlistloader" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30106 [00:12:10] Aaron|laptop: yup, that was why they used ffmpeg. TMH supports several different file formats (webm, ogv, possibly others), but even just those two makes it so that ffmpeg is a better choice. [00:13:21] 03(NEW) Collapsing broken on small pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41406 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend (Beta); (jrobson) [00:13:36] we did a fair amount of testing of TMH on the beta cluster for precise, so we know that it works for at least a small corpus of test videos [00:15:35] 03(mod) Thumbnail/imagescaler (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41371 +comment (10Tim Starling) [00:15:36] 03(mod) PostEdit: Text unreadable in the Monobook Skin - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41404 +comment (10TMg) [00:18:10] sumanah: I don't need to parse it, I just need to use xpath... wait... [00:18:54] ffmpeg version 0.8.3-4:0.8.3-0ubuntu0.12.04.1, Copyright (c) 2000-2012 the Libav developers [00:18:54] built on Jun 12 2012 16:52:09 with gcc 4.6.3 [00:18:54] *** THIS PROGRAM IS DEPRECATED *** [00:18:54] This program is only provided for compatibility and will be removed in a future release. Please use avconv instead. [00:18:59] interesting [00:19:24] oh lord [00:19:55] * robla starts composing mail to wikivideo-l list [00:20:04] 03(mod) [Regression] Thumbnail cache should be invalidated on re-upload - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31680 +comment (10Aaron Schulz) [00:20:26] TimStarling: is that why there was no .9? :) [00:21:04] oh, wait that was oggthumb [00:22:40] sounds like licensing problem? [00:22:40] well, thumbnailing images with only one keyframe works, so that is nice [00:24:43] seems like avconv is a fork that debian went with [00:24:52] both are still worked on [00:25:13] * Aaron|laptop shrugs [00:25:13] Might anyone happen to know the IP ranges from China? [00:26:53] whoa, seeking into a large file is not so good [00:27:16] 03(FIXED) Remove the m1.tiny flavor - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40028 +comment (10Ryan Lane) [00:27:29] 03(NEW) expand buttons of mobile version stopped working on nokia S60 browser, browser just exit/disappears once clicked - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41407 major; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend; (lostrego242) [00:28:00] so....looks like ffmpeg and avconv have different command line options. bummer [00:28:16] I tried to extract a frame from an 85MB ogg theora file, with a seek of 10 minutes, and it used 1.2GB of memory before I killed it [00:28:49] it was not fast [00:29:01] so when are we switching to tmh? :) [00:29:02] New patchset: Hoo man; "Clean up and restructed the AbuseFilter JS" [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30110 [00:29:33] [/sarcasm] [00:29:35] does the thumbnailer go some random interval into the video? [00:30:21] is there a way to make squid cache the redirects like 301 or 302, I am sending back 302/301 for redirect pages instead of the default rendering [00:30:40] oggThumb manages the same job in 0.35s [00:30:56] "middle keyframe" Roan told me, I think [00:31:18] TimStarling: what's a few orders of magnitude? :) [00:31:25] although perhaps it was "middle frame" [00:33:20] ffmpeg is O(N), it takes about 2 seconds to process each 100 seconds of my test video [00:33:37] so it would have taken 12 seconds to seek to 600 if it hadn't gone into swap [00:34:37] so say about 35 times faster for this test, but it can be any number of times faster because oggThumb does bisection so it's O(log N) [00:35:59] maybe there's a --not-slow command line option [00:37:18] is avconv substantially different? [00:37:46] I'd bet it isn't, but I can hope :) [00:38:47] ok, Aaron,. Andre, & Rob are working this out, I'm off for now [00:38:48] see you all [00:39:43] 03(mod) expand buttons of mobile version stopped working on nokia S60 browser, browser just exit/disappears once clicked - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41407 +comment (10lostrego) [00:40:02] TMH is doing the same thing as I did in my command line test [00:40:16] so if there is a secret --go-faster option, TMH is not using it [00:40:19] TimStarling: what's the command line you're running? [00:40:45] --bigO=1 [00:40:45] ffmpeg -y -i test.ogv -vframes 1 -ss 200 -an -f mjpeg out.jpg [00:41:14] I ran that just now, it roughly matches what TMH does [00:41:32] the performance is the same as my initial tests which omitted a couple of those options [00:43:04] -ss 200 because that doesn't send my laptop into swap [00:43:19] -ss 600 would do so [00:45:28] TimStarling: fwiw, avconv seems to be faster with the same command line [00:45:46] 03(WONTFIX) Handle invalid PDF - Can't process font stream, loading font by the name - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41381 summary; +comment (10Andre Klapper) [00:46:05] 14(WFM) thumbnail images not created, PHP Warning at GlobalFunctions.php on line 1943 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/18310 +comment (10Aaron Schulz) [00:47:08] 03(mod) Install Extension:NewUserMessage on gu.wikipedia and gu.wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40872 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [00:49:17] actually, "time" is reporting that avconv is taking more user time, so it may just be multithreaded(?) [00:50:04] there's a -threads option, maybe avconv has a different default [00:52:34] 03(NEW) Closed Wikisources aren't covered by the missing.php script - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41408 normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (lugusto) [00:53:19] 03(mod) Closed Wikisources aren't covered by the missing.php script - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41408 normal->trivial; +shell (10555) [00:54:10] since avconv is a fork of ffmpeg, it's really doubtful they've substantially changed the algorithm, so I guess it's probably not going to be much better. [00:58:16] 03(WONTFIX) Error creating thumbnail: convert: Expected 8 bytes; found 0 bytes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41375 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [00:58:47] with -threads 1, avconv is a little faster. [00:59:34] not enough to put it on par with oggthumb, though [01:03:22] (avconv with -threads 1 is little faster than ffmpeg with -threads 1, I should say. just trying to get apples-to-apples) [01:07:53] New patchset: Adamw; "attempt to fix geolocate query in CN" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30111 [01:09:08] AaronSchulz: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2206785/create-thumbnails-from-big-movies-with-ffmpeg-takes-too-long [01:11:11] 03(mod) PostEdit: Invisible .postedit-container makes 50%-of-width area next to the notification unclickable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41231 +comment (10TMg) [01:11:44] Change merged: Kaldari; [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30111 [01:12:57] before oggThumb existed, I patched ffmpeg to make ogg thumbnails fast [01:12:57] TimStarling: seems AaronSchulz found the --gofast option [01:13:12] but the patch wasn't accepted upstream [01:13:28] move the -ss option earlier in the command line [01:13:47] * Aaron|laptop was looking at http://drupal.org/node/1635432 [01:14:03] right... [01:15:17] avconv -y -ss 200 -i foo.ogv -vframes 1 -an -f mjpeg out.jpg [01:16:31] someone should probably make that change in TimedMediaThumbnail::tryFfmpegThumb() [01:16:46] New patchset: Kaldari; "Update CentralNotice to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30112 [01:16:55] Change merged: Kaldari; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30112 [01:21:12] we probably need to test this with a video with a lot of motion [01:29:29] going offline for a bit [01:31:53] 03(mod) PostEdit: Invisible .postedit-container makes 50%-of-width area next to the notification unclickable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41231 +comment (10TMg) [01:33:04] New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Update E3Experiments to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30091 [01:54:59] 14(DUP) Alow comparison with old revisions while editing an old version of a page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41307 +comment (10Brad Jorsch) [01:54:59] 03(mod) Provide an easy way to get a diff against an old revision of a page while editing it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35067 +comment (10Brad Jorsch) [02:07:02] New review: Daniel Friesen; "Here's my overview on the state of our skins:" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25170 [02:08:18] 03(NEW) diff during editing an old version compares not to the current but to the old version - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41409 normal; MediaWiki: History/Diffs; (b-jorsch) [02:12:23] New patchset: Anomie; "(bug 41409) Fix regression in diffs while editing old revisions" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30113 [02:12:57] 03(mod) diff during editing an old version compares not to the current but to the old version - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41409 +patch-in-gerrit; +comment (10Brad Jorsch) [02:17:03] New patchset: Adamw; "another better geotargeted campaign fix" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30114 [02:23:23] Change merged: Mwalker; [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30114 [02:26:47] New patchset: Hello71; "Add French translation." [mediawiki/extensions/PostEdit] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30115 [02:27:20] New patchset: Kaldari; "Update CentralNotice to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30116 [02:27:31] Change merged: Kaldari; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30116 [02:32:02] 03(mod) Add caching to info action - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39490 +comment (10Tyler Romeo) [02:37:58] New patchset: Hello71; "Add French translation." [mediawiki/extensions/PostEdit] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30115 [02:39:16] New review: Hello71; "Comma is missing, wrong quotes used. Somehow I failed a 9-line commit." [mediawiki/extensions/PostEdit] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30115 [02:44:56] Change abandoned: Hello71; "Wait, this uses tabs, not spaces." [mediawiki/extensions/PostEdit] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30115 [02:45:43] Change restored: Hello71; "Bah, I'm new to this. Apparently this is the wrong way to push a new patchset." [mediawiki/extensions/PostEdit] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30115 [02:45:48] New patchset: Hello71; "Add French translation." [mediawiki/extensions/PostEdit] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30115 [02:53:19] 03(mod) diff during editing an old version compares not to the current but to the old version - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41409 (10Aude) [03:00:41] 03(mod) Provide an easy way to get a diff against an old revision of a page while editing it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35067 (10mybugs.mail) [03:03:06] 03(mod) Provide an easy way to get a diff against an old revision of a page while editing it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35067 (10mybugs.mail) [03:16:09] 03(mod) Latin characters are displayed as Cyrillic on kkwiki when not being logged in - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40800 summary (10Andre Klapper) [03:49:22] New patchset: Aude; "fix and provide more documentation in EditPage for mergeContentInto functions" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30117 [04:08:00] New patchset: Mwjames; "SRF Boilerplate, add class registration and test file" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30071 [04:13:30] New patchset: Aude; "(bug 41298) re-apply I9a56b7c6, Don't parse the section's name in the summary" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30118 [04:16:03] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "[FileBackend] More improvements to README file." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30119 [04:16:33] 03(mod) Add caching to info action - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39490 +comment (10Madman) [04:29:11] 03(mod) Meta-Wiki mobile site has errant trademark symbol (™) in footer - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41141 +comment (10Krinkle) [04:29:16] 03(mod) Add caching to info action - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39490 +comment (10Tyler Romeo) [04:31:41] 03(mod) Meta-Wiki mobile site has errant trademark symbol (™) in footer - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41141 +comment (10Krinkle) [04:34:38] Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30119 [04:36:56] 03(mod) Wikidata merge mistakes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41298 +comment (10Aude) [04:40:22] New patchset: Parent5446; "(bug 39490) Add caching to InfoAction." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27133 [04:41:00] New patchset: Parent5446; "(bug 39490) Add caching to InfoAction." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27133 [04:50:22] New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Update E3Experiments to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30091 [04:52:30] 03(mod) InstantCommons broken for some images: Error creating thumbnail: Invalid thumbnail parameters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32387 +comment (10Krinkle) [04:58:14] 03(NEW) PHP Notice: Undefined variable: content in extensions/CentralNotice/special/SpecialBannerLoader.php on line 58 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41410 normal; MediaWiki extensions: CentralNotice; (krinklemail) [04:58:14] 03(mod) Code quality issues (and other stuff that sucks) (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/700 (10Krinkle) [04:58:20] 03(mod) Code quality issues (and other stuff that sucks) (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/700 (10Krinkle) [04:58:21] 03(NEW) PHP Notice: Undefined offset: -1 in extensions/CentralNotice/includes/BannerChooser.php on line 41 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41411 normal; MediaWiki extensions: CentralNotice; (krinklemail) [04:58:50] 03(mod) PHP Notice: Undefined offset: 1 in extensions/SemanticDrilldown/includes/SD_FilterValue.php on line 30 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40811 summary (10Krinkle) [05:03:40] 03(mod) Clean up require_once()'s of autoloaded files (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24687 +comment (10Krinkle) [05:04:31] 03(mod) Remove superfluous db freeResult calls - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24712 normal->15enhancement; summary (10Krinkle) [05:06:47] 03(mod) Assignment in conditions should be avoided - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/25517 +comment (10Krinkle) [05:08:58] New patchset: Mwjames; "SRF Boilerplate, add class registration and test file" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30071 [05:11:40] Change merged: Mwjames; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30071 [05:21:30] 03(mod) Point Wikipedias logo to more up to date 2.0 version on Commons where available - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40285 +comment (10TheChampionMan1234) [05:42:08] 03(mod) Point Wikipedias logo to more up to date 2.0 version on Commons where available - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40285 +comment (10TheChampionMan1234) [05:45:19] New patchset: Santhosh; "Update jquery.uls from upstream" [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30122 [05:45:19] New patchset: Santhosh; "Avoid lazyloading when used for input method language selection." [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30123 [05:45:19] New patchset: Santhosh; "Input method integration with ULS" [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28500 [05:45:19] New patchset: Santhosh; "Make the setting item toggle on click" [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28499 [06:00:51] 03(NEW) Android 2.3.4 and 2.3.5 section issues - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41412 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend; (jrobson) [06:06:37] New review: Nikerabbit; "Please do translations at translatewiki.net: http://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Special%3ATransl..." [mediawiki/extensions/PostEdit] (master); V: 0 C: -2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30115 [06:13:51] 03(NEW) Error of page views per language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41413 minor; Wikimedia: Statistics; (thechampionman1234) [06:17:14] 03(mod) Error of page views per language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41413 +comment (10TheChampionMan1234) [06:20:59] New patchset: Santhosh; "CSS, tooltip fixes for the more button in IME selector menu." [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30124 [06:23:15] 03(NEW) Hash ignored - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41414 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend (Beta); (jrobson) [06:23:15] New review: Nikerabbit; "Docs?" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30099 [06:32:47] 03(mod) [Regression] DjVu size info not extracted, thumbs failing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41388 +comment (10Nemo_bis) [06:41:50] 03(mod) [Regression] Error creating thumbnail: convert: Too many IDAT's found - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41374 +comment (10Nemo_bis) [06:43:41] 03(mod) "This image rendered as PNG in other sizes" string could mention "width" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41405 +comment (10Nemo_bis) [06:44:27] Change abandoned: Raimond Spekking; "I74f037bc was reverted" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29927 [06:55:19] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/Solarium] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28863 [06:57:57] 03(mod) Thumbnail/imagescaler (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41371 +comment (10Nemo_bis) [07:01:48] New review: Siebrand; "> I'll assume that Niklas and Siebrand will submit a" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29947 [07:03:24] New patchset: Raimond Spekking; "Fix typo" [mediawiki/extensions/PostEdit] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30125 [07:04:42] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28499 [07:05:01] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28500 [07:05:24] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30122 [07:05:59] New patchset: Raimond Spekking; "[WikimediaIncubator] Remove deleted keys" [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30126 [07:06:09] Change merged: Raimond Spekking; [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30126 [07:11:54] New patchset: Amire80; "(bug 40693) Refactor font selector creation code" [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28520 [07:23:11] 03(mod) mw.loader.load() fails in IE8 when loading external stylesheet - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41331 +comment (10Lupo) [07:31:33] New patchset: Nischayn22; "Class CustomTexts for handling the same." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticWatchlist] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29755 [07:34:12] New patchset: Nischayn22; "Fix the delete which is not working." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticWatchlist] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29980 [07:35:33] New patchset: Nikerabbit; "No longer in svn" [mediawiki/extensions/FlaggedRevs] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30127 [07:41:04] New patchset: Raimond Spekking; "Run filter number through formatNum()" [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30128 [07:48:17] 03(NEW) FlaggedRevs depends on legacy JavaScript globals - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41415 major; MediaWiki extensions: FlaggedRevs; (niklas.laxstrom) [07:55:47] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "on unrelated test failed because it timed out. I think the 2 second timeout is pretty tight for many..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30118 [08:05:49] Change merged: Daniel Kinzler; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30113 [08:08:08] New patchset: Nikerabbit; "(bug 31443= Some message need GENDER support" [mediawiki/extensions/FlaggedRevs] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30130 [08:08:43] 03(mod) diff during editing an old version compares not to the current but to the old version - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41409 +comment (10Daniel Kinzler) [08:08:48] New patchset: Nikerabbit; "(bug 31443) Some message need GENDER support" [mediawiki/extensions/FlaggedRevs] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30130 [08:09:04] 03(NEW) incorrect stabilization log - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41416 normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (rubin.happy) [08:09:17] Change abandoned: Amire80; "good in another merge" [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29963 [08:09:31] 03(mod) getTextForSummary() called on non-object - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41370 +comment (10Daniel Kinzler) [08:09:43] 03(mod) Some messages of advertising functions need GENDER support - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31443 +comment (10Niklas Laxström) [08:13:00] 03(mod) "This image rendered as PNG in other sizes" string could mention "width" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41405 +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [08:16:19] Change merged: Nikerabbit; [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28520 [08:17:20] New patchset: Ori.livneh; "(Draft) Fix various problems" [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30131 [08:18:27] 03(mod) [Regression] DjVu size info not extracted, thumbs failing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41388 +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [08:19:26] 03(mod) [Regression] DjVu size info not extracted, thumbs failing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41388 +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [08:24:29] Change merged: Amire80; [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30123 [08:26:20] 03(mod) [Regression] DjVu size info not extracted, thumbs failing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41388 +comment (10Nemo_bis) [08:29:37] 03(mod) Ways to reduce edit conflicts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41338 +comment (10Daniel Kinzler) [08:32:04] 03(mod) [Regression] DjVu size info not extracted, thumbs failing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41388 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [08:32:46] 03(FIXED) Message group loading is slow - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36963 +comment (10Niklas Laxström) [08:40:15] 03(NEW) LastModified should not be displayed while creating a non-existent page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41417 normal; MediaWiki extensions: LastModified; (hydra) [08:43:16] New patchset: Santhosh; "Update jquery.ime from upstream and a fix in default preferences" [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29957 [08:50:18] New patchset: Amire80; "CSS, tooltip fixes for the more button in IME selector menu." [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30124 [08:51:57] New review: Amire80; "Tested." [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30124 [08:51:57] Change merged: Amire80; [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30124 [08:53:55] 03(mod) SVG text-decoration (including underlining) doesn't render - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/13495 +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [08:54:20] New patchset: Amire80; "Update jquery.ime from upstream and a fix in default preferences" [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29957 [08:56:48] 04(REOPENED) SVG text-decoration (including underlining) doesn't render - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/13495 +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [08:59:29] 03(FIXED) phase out old testswarm 0.2 install - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38841 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [09:00:35] New patchset: Anja Jentzsch; "Tests for Change I6ea1f848: Prefix term search" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30132 [09:03:23] 03(FIXED) SVG font scaling bug ("%" and "em" misconverted to "px") - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/13494 +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [09:06:15] 03(FIXED) robots.txt - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38217 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [09:08:55] 03(WONTFIX) find out packages for fonts in /home/wikipedia/common/fonts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37968 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [09:09:39] 03(FIXED) rsvg does not render baseline-shift correctly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/5792 +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [09:11:10] 03(FIXED) Update Doyxgen from 1.6.3 to 1.7.x - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32612 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [09:14:32] 03(mod) Descriptionless files - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32551 +comment (10Foroa) [09:15:42] 03(FIXED) [OPS] migrate to Etherpad Lite - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34953 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [09:15:56] Change merged: Amire80; [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29957 [09:23:28] 03(mod) [OPS] migrate to Etherpad Lite - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34953 +comment (10Nemo_bis) [09:27:07] 03(FIXED) SVG rendering: stacked tspan elements rendered in incorrect order - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/17174 +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [09:30:39] 03(NEW) User Login Redirect - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41418 normal; MediaWiki: User login; (savannah.cozette) [09:31:57] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "Introducing ContentGetParserOutput hook." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28199 [09:32:32] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "rebased" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28199 [09:33:05] 03(mod) Colour-dependent positioning errors in SVG rasterisation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/18936 +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [09:34:52] hashar: hi! jenkins seems to ignore some changes i recently submitted. [09:35:16] DanielK_WMDE: which change ? [09:35:16] namely, I0b1db6d7 and I8f23c653 [09:35:31] hm, does mwbot support these? [09:35:31] ah https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/28199/ [09:35:38] !i I8f23c653 [09:35:38] hashar: it [09:35:38] There are multiple keys, refine your input: i18n, iamabot, icon, ie6, iframe, iis, iis404, imabot, imageauth, imagelink, imagemagic, imagemap, images, img_auth, import, important, importhelp, importimages, importsources, info, infobox, inputbox, install, installlinux, installmacosx, instantcommons, interface, internalapi, interwiki, invalidupload, is, itsalwaysbugzilla, [09:35:47] jenkens didn't like https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/30118/ [09:35:47] bah ;) [09:35:48] !g I0b1db6d7 [09:35:48] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#q,I0b1db6d7,n,z [09:36:04] 03(FIXED) SVG rendering: problems with paths beyond page extent - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/19224 +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [09:36:07] it is going to be a looong day [09:36:08] :( [09:36:09] * aude not sure why [09:36:18] :( [09:36:22] aude: timeout of an unrelated test case [09:36:41] DanielK_WMDE: i saw that and that's all? [09:36:48] hashar: can you increae the default timeout a bit? random test cases fail after the 2 second limit [09:36:51] aude: as far as i can see. [09:36:57] ok [09:37:02] one thing at the time please :-] [09:37:09] ok :) [09:37:18] DanielK_WMDE: we have upgraded the Jenkins and Gerrit servers yesterday [09:37:18] New patchset: J; "Use avconv by default" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30133 [09:37:26] so probably the connection between the two has been lost when you sent the patches [09:38:20] the connection currently seems to be up according to https://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/gerrit-trigger/ (you need to be logged in with your labs account) [09:38:28] there is a [Test Connection] button there to make sure everything works fine [09:38:37] if the connection is ever lost, there will be a RED text at the top of that page [09:38:42] so the connection works fine currently. [09:39:01] I will retrigger the tests manually using https://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/gerrit_manual_trigger/? [09:39:07] did so yesterday, probably missed some patches :-( [09:39:25] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "(Bug 41214) Changes to use variant length prefixes and fragments" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28527 [09:39:26] hashar: ok, thanks [09:39:53] New patchset: J; "add ExtractThumbParameters hook" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30134 [09:40:10] 03(mod) incorrect stabilization log - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41416 +comment (10Michael M.) [09:40:13] is:open project:mediawiki/core -label:verified=1 -label:verified=-1 ;-] [09:40:16] 03(mod) Reader feedback generates bad png graphs on enwikinews - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/21982 +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [09:40:53] 03(mod) #set broken for multiple property values (1.8 alpha) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36309 +comment (10Neill Mitchell) [09:40:53] DanielK_WMDE: under processing by Jenkins. [09:41:10] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "(Bug 41214) Changes to use variant length prefixes and fragments" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28527 [09:41:11] yay [09:41:18] * aude logged into integration... learning something all the time :) [09:41:25] DanielK_WMDE: as for the default timeout, Niklas had a similar issue with some random test failing [09:41:32] it happens from time to time since the tests are not run on a dedicated machine [09:41:46] whenever something else run in parallel the tests might be slowed :/ [09:42:03] and of course some tests are inherently slow. The default timeout is 2 secs [09:42:11] hashar: so... increase the timeout :) or is there at least an easy way for us to tell jenkins to try again? [09:42:15] it can be raised per tests by using @group medium [09:42:24] yea, i know [09:42:24] which instruct PHPUnit to use a 10 seconds timeout [09:42:40] but doing this for all tests would defeat the purpose of having different timeout levels, right? [09:42:42] New patchset: Santhosh; "Show languages with Input methods in the language selector" [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30135 [09:42:56] there are two ways to ask jenkins to retest: A) submit a new patchset B) https://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/gerrit_manual_trigger/? [09:43:04] A is when you are lazy :-] [09:43:10] B is the recommended way [09:43:29] DanielK_WMDE: and yeah indeed we don't want to have all tests in the @group medium group [09:43:34] hashar: but for B, you need some special account? [09:43:50] I will eventually split the PHPUnit run to exclude any slow tests so we can fail early [09:44:02] and only run them if and only if the fast tests worked [09:44:18] no special account, just your labs account. [09:44:30] DanielK_WMDE: are the WMDE people in the wmf staff group? [09:44:56] hashar: i don't think so. nor should they be. [09:45:19] hashar: well, maybe it would be useful if one ortwo of us had that access [09:46:03] DanielK_WMDE: I verified the Jenkins matrix security configuration, any authenticated user should be able to manually trigger a test [09:46:42] hashar: it doesn't let me log in using my labs credentials. [09:46:49] "Invalid login information. Please try again. " [09:49:51] DanielK_WMDE: checking still [09:49:57] DanielK_WMDE: are you using "Daniel Kinzler" as a username ? [09:50:24] yes [09:50:35] hm... [09:50:35] 03(mod) #set broken for multiple property values (1.8 alpha) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36309 +comment (10Neill Mitchell) [09:50:54] I am trying to find out how to enable authentication log in Jenkins [09:50:56] hashar: ah! found it! [09:50:57] * aude was going to try a new patch [09:51:10] i was using "Daniel_Kinzler". [09:51:25] hashar: thanks, works now [09:52:00] that is a bit cumbersome to use real names as a username :] [09:52:23] hashar: it's what labs folks recommended to us. anyway. [09:52:38] 03(FIXED) SVG renderer text layout problems with nested attributes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32197 +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [09:52:44] i still don't see jenkins as a reviewer for I0b1db6d7 [09:53:32] probably still building [09:53:39] https://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/ [09:53:39] one job ongoing [09:53:40] 3 pending in the queue [09:53:46] I need to speed up tests [09:53:54] specially the Dumps one [09:53:54] ah, i thought it would get added as a reviewer right away. [09:53:59] all right, i'll wait :) [09:54:08] when you send a patch [09:54:12] a notification is sent to jenkins [09:54:16] jenkins does its madness [09:54:26] and only report back once the jobs are completed [09:54:39] there is an option to send a notification when the job start [09:54:49] but I think it adds some unneeded spam [09:54:54] 03(mod) Incorrect SVG text rasterization - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34947 +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [09:57:01] 03(NEW) Statements in ItemView - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41419 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; (jeblad) [09:57:14] New patchset: Anja Jentzsch; "Tests for Change I6ea1f848: Prefix term search" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30132 [09:57:48] New patchset: Henning Snater; "Entity selector jQuery widget" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30136 [09:58:38] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "(Bug 41419) Initial work on statements in ItemView" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30055 [09:58:50] 03(mod) Create a Component for the job queue - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41077 +comment (10Daniel Kinzler) [10:00:17] New patchset: Henning Snater; "Entity selector jQuery widget" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30136 [10:02:22] hashar: ok, thanks. [10:03:21] hashar: wikidata folks are wondering what the status of the jenkins setup for the wikibase extension is. iirc, you said it's running but tests keep failing, so it's not being reported to gerrit. is that all? [10:04:06] hashar: can you get in touch with Anja to sort out what neds to be done to fix this? I don't even know where to find the failed tests (though I'm sure you sent me a URL some time). [10:04:32] New patchset: Jens Ohlig; "(Bug #41390) Fix violation of label-description uniqueness constraint on items" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29969 [10:05:13] DanielK_WMDE: yeah you were not in cc, just abraham and anja [10:05:42] oh no that is another mail [10:05:53] hashar: anja asked about it again about half an hour ago. so it doesn't seem to be clear to her what needs to be done by who... [10:06:14] entirely my faul [10:06:14] t [10:06:23] I did not really follow up on that [10:06:29] New patchset: Jens Ohlig; "(Bug #41390) Fix violation of label-description uniqueness constraint on items" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29969 [10:07:23] hi AnjaJ_WMDE [10:07:43] hi DanielK_WMDE :) [10:07:48] hello :-] [10:07:53] any news on wmf jenkins? [10:07:59] hi hashar :) [10:08:03] daniel was referring to it and how the Ext-Wikibase job still produce failures [10:08:08] and does not report back to Gerrit [10:08:31] I have disabled the notifications cause the tests keep failing. That would prevent you from merging the tests :/ [10:09:09] anyway [10:09:26] * aude wonders what's failing? [10:09:31] I could probably configure Jenkins to report back without marking the tests as verified-1 [10:09:39] hashar: the thing is - the tests don't fail for us locally, or on our own jenkins install. so the question is why and how do thesy fail? [10:09:46] hashar: without that info, we can do little for fix them :) [10:10:01] should we switch to #wikimedia-wikidata ? [10:10:12] * DanielK_WMDE doesn't care [10:10:18] yes, reporting without marking with -1 would be a very good start! [10:10:32] let s do that no -1 :-] [10:10:42] then we'd constantly get feedback about what doesn't quite work on the wmf jenkins setup, and perhaps can fix it soon [10:10:59] yes, that would be helpful [10:11:00] +1 for that [10:11:10] 03(mod) #set broken for multiple property values (1.8 alpha) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36309 +comment (10Leonard Wallentin) [10:11:45] should have thought about it 2 months ago [10:13:39] hasher, thanks for taking care of that. any date I can report back here for that change? ;) [10:14:14] I have made it already [10:14:25] need to verify it is working properly [10:14:40] there is a build in progress for https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/29969/ [10:14:42] yay [10:14:55] the console log https://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/Ext-Wikibase/1690/console [10:15:41] and the extension tests are ongoing at https://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/MediaWiki-Tests-Extensions/1498/console [10:15:46] that is where you get the phpunit output [10:15:49] with all the errors :/ [10:16:17] with the anchor: https://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/MediaWiki-Tests-Extensions/1498/console#ant-target-7 [10:16:40] 1) Wikibase\Test\EntityCacheTest::testAddEntity with data set #0 (Wikibase\ItemObject) unserialize(): Error at offset 32 of 36 bytes :/ [10:17:00] AnjaJ_WMDE: will you send a mail to the team? that's awesome! thanks hashar and DanielK_WMDE and everybody involved [10:17:25] 03(mod) textPath is not supported by rsvg - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/9420 +upstream; summary; +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [10:17:31] so those errors have been floating around for a few months [10:17:34] awesome, thanks hashar! [10:17:40] I kind of thought you were all aware of that [10:17:44] and how to find the test results [10:17:44] :/ [10:17:46] AnjaJ_WMDE: belase include the URLs hashar provided above. perhaps also put that info on the wiki somewhere. [10:17:55] *please [10:18:17] sure, DanielK_WMDE and Denny_WMDE [10:18:18] 10:13:03 Triggered by Gerrit: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29969 in silent mode. [10:18:20] grrmbmblblbl [10:18:28] thx [10:19:40] AnjaJ_WMDE: please include the URLs hashar provided above. perhaps also put that info on the wiki somewhere. [10:19:45] hashar: i'm still having a hard time even finding the relevant results when jenkins posts something to gerrit. navigating jenkins output is horrible. [10:19:55] "hover over the red ball to see the stuff you actually need to click on" [10:19:57] ugh [10:21:30] heh [10:21:31] New patchset: Hashar; "Add readme (DO NOT SUBMIT)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12222 [10:21:49] Triggered by Gerrit: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12222 [10:21:50] AHHH [10:21:56] no more silent :-] [10:22:26] Jenkins should post a message on https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/12222/ [10:22:29] * hashar crosses fingers [10:22:44] grabbing a coffee and some nicotine [10:22:44] brb [10:26:59] 03(FIXED) DejaVu Sans font renders incorrectly in SVG thumbnails - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/17845 +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [10:27:05] hashar: it worked! well, it failed. successfully ;) [10:27:44] hashar: did you poke I11492200? it still shows jenins' -1 because of the timeout... [10:28:03] backk [10:28:05] New patchset: Raimond Spekking; "[Wikibase][Diff][UniversalLanguageSelector]: dark deployed and on the horizon" [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30137 [10:28:15] ahhh [10:28:30] Change merged: Raimond Spekking; [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30137 [10:28:35] DanielK_WMDE: so clicking on the link in gerrit send you to https://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/Ext-Wikibase/1692/ [10:28:51] DanielK_WMDE: the Ext-Wikibase trigger other jobs to run the phpunit groups [10:29:15] DanielK_WMDE: all the sub build test results are aggregated so you eventually end up with a "nice" dashboard at https://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/Ext-Wikibase/1692/aggregatedTestReport/ [10:29:49] 03(mod) Property values with a space in them do not work in ”not equal”-queries. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31151 (10Leonard Wallentin) [10:30:00] hashar: "jobs" and "builds" and "groups" are all things i don't even want to think about in the context of gerrit. would be nice if developers didn't have to know about this stuff... [10:30:15] yeah :-/ [10:30:31] maybe we can setup a video chat next week so I can demo out how to navigate in jenkins ? [10:30:35] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29283 [10:30:46] hashar: could the link on gerrit directly point to the aggregated search results? is there any reason not to? [10:30:46] (and/or I can take screenshot and write a tutorial / howto on mw.org) [10:30:46] ) [10:31:06] that is a good idea [10:31:16] tutorial would be great, talk to sumana about it. she was working on some minimal documentation. [10:31:20] video demo... maybe later [10:31:33] but it would be much better if we wouldn't need all this ;) [10:31:45] hehe [10:32:15] err, "aggregated test results". yea. could you add that link? or even replace the current link with that? [10:33:05] New review: John Erling Blad; "Usually the argument is not "offset#, it is "continue". The reported form is also somewhat different..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29956 [10:34:09] 03(mod) SVG thumbnailing issues - part of the image not rendered - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/18463 +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [10:36:19] DanielK_WMDE: need to find out how to alter the message [10:37:51] hashar: could you send us the localsettings you are using to run these tests? that may help us to reproduce the failures [10:38:07] 03(NEW) test wikibase on sqlite not only mysql - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41420 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; (abraham.taherivand) [10:38:25] 03(mod) test wikibase on sqlite not only mysql - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41420 (10abraham.taherivand) [10:38:26] ohh [10:38:40] oh yeah sqlite [10:38:44] that might be an issue too :/ [10:41:12] New review: Tobias Gritschacher; "5 Failures in ApiGetEntitiesTest" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: -1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29945 [10:43:24] DanielK_WMDE: conf is at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?p=integration/jenkins.git;a=blob;f=jobs/Ext-Wikibase/ExtraSettings.php;hb=HEAD [10:43:44] ExtraSettings.php is injected in LocalSettings.php [10:44:39] New patchset: Anja Jentzsch; "Tests for Change I6ea1f848: Prefix term search" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30132 [10:44:48] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "Warn when creating TextContent around false/null." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30140 [10:44:54] the LocalSettings.php is created using the installer, it just has some PHP snippet to include the ExtraSettings.php file [10:46:02] New patchset: Raimond Spekking; "Remove linebreak inside a word" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30141 [10:54:22] 03(NEW) Values incorrectly parsed in template for label Semantic Maps - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41421 normal; MediaWiki extensions: SemanticMaps; (contrafibularity) [10:54:37] stupid invoker [11:00:56] * Reedy invokes hashar [11:01:16] hello mortal Sam. How can I help. [11:01:24] Reedy: there :-] [11:04:26] New patchset: Hashar; "raise timeout for UserTest::testEditCount" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30143 [11:05:14] 03(FIXED) WikiLove installation on Urdu Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40848 (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [11:05:43] New review: Hashar; "Niklas, Daniel, you have been hit by this other the last day. Should be straightforward." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30143 [11:06:11] the timeout issue in Jenkins should be fixed with https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30143 :-] [11:06:15] going out to get some food [11:08:40] New patchset: Physikerwelt; "Added MathML rendering by MathJax for Browsers other than firefox" [mediawiki/extensions/Math] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30144 [11:08:40] New patchset: Physikerwelt; "added customized file for mathml to mathjax conversion by mathjax" [mediawiki/extensions/Math] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30145 [11:16:27] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30141 [11:17:42] New review: Physikerwelt; "seems reasonable" [mediawiki/extensions/Math] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23063 [11:27:59] 03(mod) Black/striped thumbnails of CMYK JPEGs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24854 +comment (10Marco) [11:28:46] 03(VERIFIED) WikiLove installation on Urdu Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40848 +comment (10Dereckson) [11:30:44] 03(FIXED) Translation for Portal namespaces in Galician - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41213 +comment (10Dereckson) [11:35:44] 03(VERIFIED) Translation for Portal namespaces in Galician - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41213 +comment (10Dereckson) [11:44:50] New patchset: Jens Ohlig; "(Bug #41390) Fix violation of label-description uniqueness constraint on items" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29969 [11:51:31] New patchset: Jens Ohlig; "(Bug #41390) Fix violation of label-description uniqueness constraint on items" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29969 [11:53:08] New patchset: Jens Ohlig; "(Bug #41390) Fix violation of label-description uniqueness constraint on items" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29969 [11:55:57] New patchset: Henning Snater; "Shorthand function for retrieving templates" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30146 [11:56:39] 03(mod) Ignorable TIFF warnings prevent thumbnail generation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41385 +comment (10Marco) [12:02:21] 03(mod) SVGs with tspan that have multiple x or y coordinates don't render properly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/23574 +upstream; summary; +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [12:04:21] 03(FIXED) diff during editing an old version compares not to the current but to the old version - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41409 (10Brad Jorsch) [12:04:48] 14(DUP) SVGs with tspan that have multiple x or y coordinates don't render properly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/23574 +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [12:04:49] 03(mod) Incorrect text positioning in SVG rasterization (tspan x attribute; upstream) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33245 +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [12:09:02] well the good news is, that it does seem that quite a few rsvg issues are now fixed [12:09:14] bad news is that there are still plenty left :D [12:14:43] 03(FIXED) Black/striped thumbnails of CMYK JPEGs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24854 +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [12:23:19] New patchset: Siebrand; "Deglobalization in EditPage.php" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27164 [12:24:48] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30146 [12:25:13] 03(NEW) rsvg cannot handle classes/ids with cyricllic alphabet when styling. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41422 normal; Wikimedia: SVG rendering; (hartman.wiki) [12:25:14] 03(mod) SVG rasterisation on Wikimedia sites (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/8901 (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [12:32:44] 03(mod) Stripes on image thumbnail - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29999 +comment (10Nemo_bis) [12:33:07] 03(NEW) CSS child selector not supported by rsvg - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41423 normal; Wikimedia: SVG rendering; (hartman.wiki) [12:33:08] 03(mod) SVG rasterisation on Wikimedia sites (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/8901 (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [12:37:31] New patchset: Matmarex; "Display language links in sidebar ucfirst using CSS" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27039 [12:42:02] New review: Aude; "this is much better, as the test tends to timeout and take too long." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30143 [12:42:39] plop [12:43:12] 03(NEW) flowRoot not supported by rsvg - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41424 normal; Wikimedia: SVG rendering; (hartman.wiki) [12:43:12] 03(mod) SVG rasterisation on Wikimedia sites (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/8901 (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [12:48:50] Change merged: Nikerabbit; [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30135 [12:52:06] 03(NEW) rsvg does not support the font shorthand style property - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41425 normal; Wikimedia: SVG rendering; (hartman.wiki) [12:52:07] 03(mod) SVG rasterisation on Wikimedia sites (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/8901 (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [12:52:39] New review: Aude; "We did get this mentioned in signpost a few weeks ago [1] but agree that's not enough for notifying ..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25170 [12:54:16] New review: Markus Kroetzsch; "Great, now we just need to implement this for Store3. How can you test it (and see it failing)?" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29971 [12:54:16] Change merged: Markus Kroetzsch; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29971 [13:05:43] New patchset: Santhosh; "(bug 30071) Support gender in mood messages ("happy" etc)" [mediawiki/extensions/MoodBar] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29925 [13:10:16] New patchset: Nikerabbit; "Reduce database queries" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30148 [13:10:17] New patchset: Nikerabbit; "Reduce database queries in WikiPageMessageGroup" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30149 [13:10:17] New patchset: Nikerabbit; "Reduce queries in WorkflowStatesMessageGroup" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30150 [13:10:17] New patchset: Nikerabbit; "Increase timeout for tests" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30151 [13:11:20] 04(REOPENED) rsvg does not render baseline-shift correctly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/5792 +comment (10PRO) [13:13:48] 03(mod) rsvg does not render baseline-shift correctly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/5792 +comment (10PRO) [13:15:02] 03(mod) rsvg does not render baseline-shift correctly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/5792 +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [13:20:04] 03(mod) SVG rasterisation on Wikimedia sites (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/8901 (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [13:20:05] 03(NEW) hsl colors not supported by rsvg - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41426 normal; Wikimedia: SVG rendering; (hartman.wiki) [13:22:01] 03(mod) rsvg does not render baseline-shift correctly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/5792 +comment (10PRO) [13:23:15] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/PostEdit] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30125 [13:25:18] 03(mod) Stripes on image thumbnail - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29999 +comment (10Marco) [13:25:35] 03(FIXED) Stripes on image thumbnail - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29999 (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [13:26:01] New review: Nikerabbit; "Use http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Coding_conventions/PHP stylize.php to make the code use the..." [mediawiki/extensions/Math] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28824 [13:28:56] New review: Nikerabbit; "This wont work I think. You are checking the UA in the parsing stage, after which it will be cached ..." [mediawiki/extensions/Math] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30144 [13:29:37] New patchset: Aude; "fix and provide more documentation in EditPage for mergeContentInto functions" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30117 [13:29:56] Change abandoned: MaxSem; "We went in a different direction." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26402 [13:31:35] <^demon> Nikerabbit: If the failure is just due to the timeout, I think we can go ahead and submit 30148. [13:32:32] jenkins seems to be misbehaving today :( [13:32:47] timeouts... [13:33:04] ^demon: let me check... if you read wikitech I'm currently unable to run tests locally [13:34:36] I think hashar said there is way to rerun the tests, though I don't see such option [13:35:20] either send a new patchset (dumb) or trigger it in Jenkins interface : https://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/gerrit_manual_trigger/? [13:35:20] but given the other dependent commits pass, it should be fine [13:35:35] !g 30148 [13:35:35] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#q,30148,n,z [13:35:36] hashar: ah I need to login? [13:35:50] Nikerabbit: yeah using your lab credentials [13:35:54] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30151 [13:35:54] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30150 [13:35:55] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30149 [13:35:55] Change merged: Demon; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30148 [13:36:07] well, there it went :) [13:36:26] timeeoouuut issue grmblblb [13:36:58] hashar: did you understand Tim's last email on phpunit thread? [13:37:35] New patchset: Hashar; "raise timeout for UserTest::testEditCount" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30143 [13:37:40] Nikerabbit: link? [13:38:05] ahhh Tim Landscheidt [13:38:05] let me read it [13:38:12] (been away meeting my accountant + bank) [13:38:14] Hi, When a page is parsed using a Job the extensions hook up too. Is there a way to prevent this? [13:39:06] <^demon> hashar: Minor nitpick on If2d05507, then we can merge. [13:39:35] <^demon> Nischayn22: Not really, no. Why would you want to do that? [13:39:36] why don't people paste URL instead of the dumb I123445 ? ;-] [13:39:38] !g If2d05507 [13:39:38] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#q,If2d05507,n,z [13:40:11] ^demon: I am working on SemanticWatchlist which sends out emails to people when a property gets changed. [13:40:17] New patchset: Hoo man; "Clean up and restructed the AbuseFilter JS" [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30110 [13:40:43] New patchset: Hashar; "raise timeout for UserTest::testEditCount" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30143 [13:40:45] Now if a template is changed, say the property was just removed from the template about 50 pages could be refreshed [13:40:57] and then there would be 50 emails sent [13:41:04] ^demon: done. thanks! Seems https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/30143/ is ready for a merge [13:41:24] ^demon: so there has to be a way to find out if it was a job in PHP right? [13:41:24] <^demon> You could maybe do something hacky to disable all e-mails while in the Job, then set it back to the previous setting. [13:42:03] Nikerabbit: so as shown by "pear list -c phpunit", you get a PHP_Timer version which is not compatible with the PHPUnit version installed (3.6.x) [13:42:38] hashar: oh [13:42:47] Nikerabbit: I would recommend you to install PHPUnit 3.7. Been using it on my laptop since it is out. No problem so far :-] [13:42:57] ^demon: but Jobs are executed from mediawiki core and I want that to be a feature of the extension, not just a hack for my personal wiki [13:43:09] maybe there has to be a hook in the Jobs I guess [13:43:23] hashar: well, I can't since I don't have php 5.3.3 yet [13:43:26] Nikerabbit: maybe pear got confused at some point [13:43:38] Nikerabbit: oh my ;-D [13:43:46] <^demon> Nikerabbit: 5.3.2? [13:44:23] Nikerabbit: another way would be to remove all the packages in the pear.phpunit.de and reinstall phpunit. That might fix the version issues [13:44:39] <^demon> That's usually my solution to PEAR problems -- remove and reinstall. [13:44:40] 03(mod) SVG rasterisation on Wikimedia sites (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/8901 (10Nemo_bis) [13:44:41] <^demon> PEAR is notoriously stupid. [13:44:42] 03(mod) Thumbnail/imagescaler (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41371 (10Nemo_bis) [13:44:42] New patchset: J; "fix thumbnail extraction with ForeignDBViaLBRepo" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30134 [13:44:55] ^demon: yep [13:45:01] hashar: I still get 1.0.4 that way [13:45:26] Change merged: Demon; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30143 [13:45:26] so that is a bug in PHPUnit pear package [13:45:40] ^demon: thanks [13:45:55] <^demon> yw. [13:46:03] $ pear info phpunit [13:46:04] No information found for `phpunit' [13:46:10] I hate pear [13:46:10] it is soooo counterintuitive [13:46:25] me too [13:46:39] New patchset: Hoo man; "Clean up and restructed the AbuseFilter JS" [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30110 [13:46:49] ^demon: any idea where I should place such a hook? [13:46:58] <^demon> No, offhand. [13:47:52] I give up [13:47:54] sorry Nikerabbit [13:48:00] pear is too cumbersome [13:48:15] Nikerabbit: try to find a way to install a previous PHP_Timer version [13:48:34] Is it only me or is the current abuse filter JavaScript broken? https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:AbuseFilter/tools [13:49:24] New review: Henning Snater; "Just commenting: Like written before, having "search" being displayed three times in Monobook looks ..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27971 [13:49:47] <^demon> hoo: Same problems here. Getting JS exceptions. [13:50:17] <^demon> eg: "Exception thrown by ext.abuseFilter.tools: Cannot set property 'doExprSubmit' of undefined " [13:50:30] ^demon: Shall I produce an intermit fix based on teh current JS or is it enough that I have working JS in gerrit? [13:51:01] <^demon> It works in master? [13:52:02] ^demon: I don't think so [13:52:23] nope [13:52:43] <^demon> Well, let's get a patch into gerrit and get it merged + sync'd :) [13:52:50] hashar: 1.0.3 is not old enough? [13:52:58] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30110 that works, though :P [13:53:48] Nikerabbit: I have no idea [13:53:59] Nikerabbit: I could not find how to get the dependencies of a package in pear [13:55:00] <^demon> hoo: I didn't realize it was part of a larger change. We should do something smaller to fix this singular issue. Sorry for the confusion. [13:55:13] On the way [13:55:16] 03(mod) flowRoot not supported by rsvg - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41424 +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [13:56:11] New patchset: Hoo man; "Fix the AbuseFilter JS" [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30153 [13:56:16] ^demon: There you go ;) [13:56:55] !g I8ab15f899f0333428fd8b2a98c58c07c2fce2962 [13:56:55] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#q,I8ab15f899f0333428fd8b2a98c58c07c2fce2962,n,z [13:57:25] damn wait [13:57:30] didn't save the change [13:57:46] 03(mod) Add caching to info action - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39490 +comment (10MZMcBride) [13:58:17] New patchset: Hoo man; "Fix the AbuseFilter JS" [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30153 [13:58:28] New patchset: IAlex; "(bug 41298) re-apply I9a56b7c6, Don't parse the section's name in the summary" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30118 [13:58:48] ^demon: that one's ready to merge :P [13:59:03] <^demon> hoo: Does ext.abuseFilter.edit.js also need the "new" like the other two files? [13:59:15] * ^demon honestly doesn't know, JS isn't his forté [13:59:33] ^demon: No, none probably need it, really but they had it historically, so I restored it [13:59:54] <^demon> Ok, let's try this out then. [14:00:01] Change merged: Demon; [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30153 [14:00:22] That's only temporary anyway, I've got nice restructured scripts in gerrit ;) [14:01:42] <^demon> I'll merge this to 1.21wmf2 and then deploy. [14:02:15] New patchset: Zfilipin; "Updated documentation" [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30154 [14:02:40] New patchset: J; "Fix ffmpeg thumb extraction" [mediawiki/extensions/OggHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30155 [14:03:12] Change merged: IAlex; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30118 [14:05:54] New patchset: Demon; "Updating AbuseFilter to master to fix JS" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30156 [14:06:03] Change merged: Demon; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30156 [14:09:13] New patchset: Hoo man; "Clean up and restructed the AbuseFilter JS" [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30110 [14:09:45] damn... it took that new into the clean up change [14:09:45] stupid git [14:09:54] <^demon> hoo: Sync'd. AbuseFilter seems to work :) [14:10:05] 03(NEW) rsvg does not support marker styling - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41427 normal; Wikimedia: SVG rendering; (hartman.wiki) [14:10:06] 03(mod) SVG rasterisation on Wikimedia sites (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/8901 (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [14:10:36] New patchset: Hoo man; "Clean up and restructed the AbuseFilter JS" [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30110 [14:11:03] the use strict still is gone, damn, damn, damn [14:11:07] New patchset: Zfilipin; "Cleanup: deleted todo file" [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30157 [14:11:14] thanks, ^demon, btw :) [14:11:21] <^demon> Thanks for noticing+reporting+fixing :) [14:12:02] New patchset: Hoo man; "Clean up and restructed the AbuseFilter JS" [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30110 [14:12:49] New review: Hoo man; "Rebased (needed several patch sets, cause git brought the bad style back in....)" [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30110 [14:13:49] 03(mod) Colour-dependent positioning errors in SVG rasterisation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/18936 +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [14:16:08] New patchset: Umherirrender; "Simplify cached check in Special:SpecialPages" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29987 [14:16:33] ^demon: eeek... now it's throwing type errors, apperantly [14:16:48] <^demon> It is? Seemed to WFM :\ [14:17:22] ^demon: Worked in my dev. wiki... but broken on meta [14:17:48] <^demon> WFM on meta... [14:17:50] The superfluous news are to blame, probably... bah [14:18:04] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:AbuseFilter/tools?debug=true [14:18:22] New patchset: Umherirrender; "list=allusers&aurights=[unusedright] returns all users of the wiki" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26641 [14:18:48] New patchset: Umherirrender; "(bug 40574) Add hints for generatexml param in api modules" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27886 [14:19:02] 03(mod) SVG: Missing implementation for textLength - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/13387 +comment (10Nemo_bis) [14:19:26] New patchset: Zfilipin; "Cleanup: delete unused file" [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30158 [14:19:26] Change abandoned: Umherirrender; "Looking for another way, this makes things not easier." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28911 [14:19:53] <^demon> hoo: Ah, I see the errors now. "Works" but still gives an error. [14:20:38] ^demon: The JS is split up in 3 files, so only some stuff was broken... :/ [14:20:50] Shall I put another fix up? [14:20:52] <^demon> Let's. [14:21:20] 03(mod) SVG: Missing implementation for textLength - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/13387 +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [14:22:05] New patchset: Hoo man; "Fix AbuseFilter JS" [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30159 [14:22:34] those old scripts suck... [14:24:09] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "(Bug 41383) Update wbgetentities to report statements for items" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29945 [14:24:39] Change merged: Demon; [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30159 [14:25:42] New patchset: Demon; "Updating AbuseFilter to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30160 [14:25:47] Change merged: Demon; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30160 [14:28:57] <^demon> hoo: Type errors gone on meta. [14:29:12] yeah :) [14:31:43] 14(DUP) incorrect stabilization log - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41416 +comment (10Krenair) [14:31:43] 03(mod) [[MediaWiki:Revreview-reject-text-revto]] value order broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41136 +comment (10Krenair) [14:32:44] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "(Bug 41383) Update wbgetentities to report statements for items" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29945 [14:33:55] New patchset: Hoo man; "Clean up and restructed the AbuseFilter JS" [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30110 [14:34:26] New review: Hoo man; "Rabased" [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30110 [14:34:56] 03(mod) incorrect stabilization log - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41416 +comment (10Krenair) [14:36:25] 03(NEW) Editing busted in IE8 (at least) due to EventLogging - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41428 major; MediaWiki: Page editing; (cmcmahon) [14:37:00] 03(mod) Editing busted in IE8 (at least) due to EventLogging - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41428 +comment (10Chris McMahon) [14:40:34] 03(mod) Editing busted in IE8 (at least) due to EventLogging - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41428 (10Chris McMahon) [14:42:33] New review: Cmcmahon; "NOOP" [qa/browsertests] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30158 [14:42:33] Change merged: Cmcmahon; [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30158 [14:43:16] New review: Cmcmahon; "no need for code review on TODO file" [qa/browsertests] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30157 [14:44:33] 03(mod) SVG rasterisation on Wikimedia sites (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/8901 +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [14:44:40] 03(mod) Editing busted in IE8 (at least) due to EventLogging - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41428 +comment (10Jarry1250) [14:44:49] New review: Cmcmahon; "more explicit docs FTW" [qa/browsertests] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30154 [14:46:10] New review: Cmcmahon; "accurate docs" [qa/browsertests] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30007 [14:46:10] Change merged: Cmcmahon; [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30157 [14:46:10] Change merged: Cmcmahon; [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30154 [14:46:10] Change merged: Cmcmahon; [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30007 [14:51:15] 14(INVALID) User Login Redirect - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41418 +comment (10Krenair) [15:01:00] New patchset: Umherirrender; "Fix rc_logid in RecentChange::loadFromCurRow" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30161 [15:03:30] New patchset: Physikerwelt; "Styling of the files with stylize.php" [mediawiki/extensions/Math] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30162 [15:03:30] New patchset: Physikerwelt; "fixed some issues according to the comments of Nikerabbit" [mediawiki/extensions/Math] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30163 [15:03:30] New patchset: Physikerwelt; "Renaming of the files according to suggestion of Nikerabbit" [mediawiki/extensions/Math] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30164 [15:05:06] New patchset: Zfilipin; "Jenkins gets code from Gerrit" [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30165 [15:09:02] New patchset: Physikerwelt; "Restructuring of the classes. The Math.body file which contains the MathRender class was split in the following way Math.base contains the base class with the database related stuff and provides an abstract interface Math.source and Math.MathJax handle th" [mediawiki/extensions/Math] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28824 [15:10:28] New review: Cmcmahon; "proper git repo" [qa/browsertests] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30165 [15:10:28] Change merged: Cmcmahon; [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30165 [15:13:45] New patchset: Physikerwelt; "Restructuring of the classes." [mediawiki/extensions/Math] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30166 [15:16:34] New patchset: Umherirrender; "Add RecentChange::selectFields and use it" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30167 [15:18:07] New patchset: Tpt; "(bug 37764) Allow imageInfo API query to give XML DJVU metadata" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24660 [15:19:57] New patchset: Umherirrender; "Add RecentChange::selectFields and use it" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30167 [15:20:56] New review: Umherirrender; "Fixed tabs" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30167 [15:22:39] New patchset: Umherirrender; "Fix rc_logid in RecentChange::loadFromCurRow" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30161 [15:23:09] New review: Umherirrender; "Removed unrelated change" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30161 [15:23:24] New review: Tpt; "Patch set2: rebase" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24660 [15:26:38] New patchset: Tpt; "Fix a small bug in the new configuration system." [mediawiki/extensions/ProofreadPage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30168 [15:27:51] New patchset: Zfilipin; "Updated Firefox" [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30169 [15:28:48] New patchset: Henning Snater; "Refactoring of EditableValue.Interface tests" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30170 [15:30:06] New review: Tpt; "Very minor change that need to be merge before deployment to Wikimedia's wiki of the new edition for..." [mediawiki/extensions/ProofreadPage] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30168 [15:30:06] Change merged: Tpt; [mediawiki/extensions/ProofreadPage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30168 [15:30:49] I have a question about downloading MW with git, I am using "git checkout 1.19.2" to get the latest release as per the instructions, but I get an error when I attempt to "git pull" afterwards [15:31:39] Change abandoned: Physikerwelt; "wrong use of git review" [mediawiki/extensions/Math] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30166 [15:32:18] Change abandoned: Physikerwelt; "wrong use of git review" [mediawiki/extensions/Math] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30164 [15:32:49] Change abandoned: Physikerwelt; "wrong use of git review" [mediawiki/extensions/Math] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30163 [15:33:07] Change abandoned: Physikerwelt; "wrong use of git review" [mediawiki/extensions/Math] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30162 [15:33:43] Change abandoned: Physikerwelt; "wrong use of git review" [mediawiki/extensions/Math] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30144 [15:34:03] Change abandoned: Physikerwelt; "wrong use of git review" [mediawiki/extensions/Math] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30145 [15:41:24] Change merged: Cmcmahon; [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30169 [15:43:01] New patchset: Umherirrender; "Fix indentation whitespace errors" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30171 [15:49:33] New review: Umherirrender; "Test needs restart, failure looks like not related to this change." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30161 [15:49:50] New patchset: Physikerwelt; "Restructuring of the classes. The Math.body file which contains the MathRender class was split in the following way Math.base contains the base class with the database related stuff and provides an abstract interface Math.source and Math.MathJax handle th" [mediawiki/extensions/Math] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28824 [15:50:58] New review: DarTar; "Last year Krinkle implemented a change in CentralNotice to target specific registered users by editc..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25170 [15:54:14] New review: OliverKeyes; "Indeed; I assume it could be done." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25170 [15:55:27] New review: Demon; "So we'll spend time writing a feature, but make it clear that we're not going to support it further?..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25170 [15:58:24] New review: OliverKeyes; "Then people can prepare to be disappointed; it's not a feature, it's a userscript, and it's the work..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25170 [16:01:37] New patchset: Physikerwelt; "Restructuring of the classes. The Math.body file which contains the MathRender class was split in the following way Math.base contains the base class with the database related stuff and provides an abstract interface Math.source and Math.MathJax handle th" [mediawiki/extensions/Math] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28824 [16:02:26] Change merged: MaxSem; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30171 [16:06:46] New review: Demon; "Unfortunately it doesn't work like that. Regardless of what disclaimers you put on it, people will s..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25170 [16:08:07] New review: OliverKeyes; "*shrugs* then if it's not possible, it's not possible. But we need to do a heck of a lot more commun..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25170 [16:10:26] New patchset: Demon; "Restructuring Math classes" [mediawiki/extensions/Math] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28824 [16:10:43] New review: Demon; "PS6 only reformats the commit msg." [mediawiki/extensions/Math] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28824 [16:11:59] Change abandoned: Physikerwelt; "unable to use git" [mediawiki/extensions/Math] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28824 [16:12:38] New review: Demon; "Why was this abandoned?" [mediawiki/extensions/Math] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28824 [16:13:52] New patchset: Umherirrender; "Fix tabs inside statements/text" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30172 [16:19:30] New patchset: Umherirrender; "Fix tabs inside/between statements/text" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30172 [16:21:22] 03(mod) expand buttons of mobile version stopped working on nokia S60 browser, browser just exit/disappears once clicked - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41407 +comment (10Jon) [16:24:40] New review: Umherirrender; "Fix some changes, because not all are necessary (difference tab size)" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30172 [16:29:53] I have tried to follow the instructions http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Tutorial to commit a set of changes to gerrit [16:30:21] but I'm unable to commit my most recent changes [16:30:31] now I'd like to start over [16:30:36] and get the message [16:30:48] (change 30144 closed) [16:31:18] how can I mange to commit my changes [16:31:18] New review: MaxSem; "Nostalgia is used by http://nostalgia.wikipedia.org - setting to -2 until we figure out what to do w..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: -2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25170 [16:32:14] Change restored: Physikerwelt; "restart with the commit" [mediawiki/extensions/Math] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28824 [16:32:57] Change restored: Physikerwelt; "restart with commit" [mediawiki/extensions/Math] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30144 [16:33:28] New patchset: Physikerwelt; "Added MathML rendering by MathJax for Browsers other than firefox" [mediawiki/extensions/Math] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30144 [16:34:09] 03(mod) Editing busted in IE8 (at least) due to EventLogging - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41428 (10Rob Lanphier) [16:34:55] New review: Yaron Koren; "This looks great! My only negative comment is that the text of "If the property ... changes its valu..." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticWatchlist] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28400 [16:34:55] hi Reedy, ^demon, whoever is available....looks we've got some reverting to do [16:35:02] New patchset: Demon; "Remove externaledit/externaldiff preference" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30173 [16:35:19] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41428 [16:35:24] <^demon> robla: I've been around. I said I'm more than willing to sync out anything, once someone figures out what's broken and has a change for me to review :) [16:35:31] thanks! [16:36:25] <^demon> siebrand: I added to your war on preferences. https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/30173/ [16:37:24] New review: Hoo man; "Certainly needs release notes" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30173 [16:38:28] why release notes can't wait until the merge? they always cause conflicts when trying to merge, so new PS needs to be pushed [16:38:54] <^demon> Vulpix: No harm in adding them in a later PS. [16:38:57] Change restored: Physikerwelt; "somehow needed" [mediawiki/extensions/Math] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30145 [16:39:04] ori-l: you around? [16:39:08] New review: Brian Wolff; "So issue (as i understand it): Image info expects that all data stored in img_metadata blob is a ser..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24660 [16:39:08] New patchset: Physikerwelt; "added customized file for mathml to mathjax conversion by mathjax" [mediawiki/extensions/Math] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30145 [16:39:33] * aude relieved it's not content handler [16:39:36] :) [16:39:41] someone seems to disagree with you scoring -1 your changes... [16:39:49] i'll be back online in a bit [16:40:40] Change restored: Physikerwelt; "needs to be restored" [mediawiki/extensions/Math] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30162 [16:40:48] New patchset: Physikerwelt; "Styling of the files with stylize.php" [mediawiki/extensions/Math] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30162 [16:41:05] Change merged: MaxSem; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28034 [16:42:31] ^demon: I think it's this and related changes: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/30086/ [16:42:46] basically, it's probably the stuff that Ori and S deployed yesterday [16:43:24] I'm going to go up to 6th floor to see if I can track them down [16:43:38] <^demon> robla: So we want to disable the whole extension? I considered that earlier, but didn't want to use the sledgehammer until someone from that team was contacted. [16:43:45] <^demon> Lemme know if you can track someone down. [16:44:15] Change restored: Physikerwelt; "necessary to proceed" [mediawiki/extensions/Math] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30163 [16:44:20] New patchset: Physikerwelt; "fixed some issues according to the comments of Nikerabbit" [mediawiki/extensions/Math] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30163 [16:45:45] New review: Daniel Friesen; "Cologne Blue's dependence on legacy code has removed. So we don't have to 100% exterminate it like N..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25170 [16:46:33] New review: Hoo man; "Is that consistent with the other usages of the filter number?" [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30128 [16:47:11] <^demon> robla: Went ahead and made a patch to disable it on enwiki again. [16:47:56] ^demon: go for it [16:48:18] Change merged: Trevor Parscal; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30054 [16:48:25] anyone available to review ^demon's change, or should he self review? [16:48:40] actually, it's an easy one liner....let's just do it [16:48:45] <^demon> You could review it :) [16:48:47] (famous last words) [16:49:09] done [16:49:39] <^demon> Sync'd. [16:51:56] 03(mod) Editing busted in IE8 (at least) due to EventLogging - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41428 (10Steven Walling) [16:52:39] 03(ASSIGNED) Editing busted in IE8 (at least) due to EventLogging - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41428 (10Steven Walling) [16:52:45] Change restored: Physikerwelt; "necessary to proceed" [mediawiki/extensions/Math] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30164 [16:53:00] New patchset: Physikerwelt; "Restructuring of the classes." [mediawiki/extensions/Math] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30177 [16:53:00] New patchset: Physikerwelt; "Renaming of the files according to suggestion of Nikerabbit" [mediawiki/extensions/Math] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30164 [16:53:11] robla: is that extension installed on wikipedias in all languages or only on enwiki? [16:53:42] 03(FIXED) new "new messages" does not shown on de.wp - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40512 +comment (10Umherirrender) [16:55:36] New review: Brian Wolff; "My understanding (haven't checked though) is that image magick renders these types of files fine. Th..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29968 [16:56:14] <^demon> Vulpix: EventLogging? Just enwiki & testwiki for now. But I disabled it on enwiki due to the breakages. [16:56:20] <^demon> It's still on testwiki for debugging purposes. [16:57:21] 03(mod) Editing busted in IE8 (at least) due to EventLogging - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41428 +comment (10Rob Lanphier) [16:57:34] Change merged: Yaron Koren; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticWatchlist] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29755 [16:57:50] Can someone explain what his EventLogging thing is? [16:57:54] this* [16:58:02] Presumably it logs events... But that's about all I know [16:58:17] can anyone give me a suggestion how to combine a set of change in the way that it reviewable by a human beeing see https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/status:open+project:mediawiki/extensions/Math+branch:master+topic:modulardesign,n,z is basically one change [16:58:32] <^demon> Krenair: I believe it's a rewrite/more useful version of ClickTracking, but I honestly haven't looked at the code yet. [16:59:09] Krenair: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Event_logging [16:59:46] 03(mod) PHP Notice: Undefined variable: content in extensions/CentralNotice/special/SpecialBannerLoader.php on line 58 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41410 +comment (10Matt Walker) [17:01:08] 03(mod) Editing busted in IE8 (at least) due to EventLogging - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41428 +comment (10Chris McMahon) [17:01:44] I'm surprised event logging is causing the issue because it's not supposed to be touching the cluster, but they did do a deploy yesterday. :-( [17:01:46] Ahh IE8 [17:01:48] makes sense [17:02:14] the clicktracker replacement [17:03:00] 03(FIXED) PHP Notice: Undefined offset: -1 in extensions/CentralNotice/includes/BannerChooser.php on line 41 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41411 +comment (10Matt Walker) [17:04:31] 03(mod) "This image rendered as PNG in other sizes" string could mention "width" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41405 +comment (10Bawolff) [17:06:03] Ori was up late last night working on a suggestion from Krinkle and Tim so I think that's why he's slow to respond this morning. :-) [17:06:11] 03(mod) Suppressed edits should not appear in Special:DeletedContributions and Special:Undelete - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/19725 +comment (10James Forrester) [17:07:19] using debug=true on testwiki gives *a lot* of JS errors under IE8 [17:08:20] 03(mod) PDF image extraction fails - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/23326 +comment (10Bawolff) [17:11:24] Vulpix: Probably evil gadgets [17:11:33] yes, MediaWiki:Gadget-ReferenceTooltips.js is one of them [17:11:57] Change abandoned: MaxSem; "Trying to STFU the missing dependenccy stuff." [mediawiki/extensions/GeoData] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/19009 [17:12:09] Change restored: MaxSem; "(no reason)" [mediawiki/extensions/GeoData] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/19009 [17:12:39] New patchset: Nikerabbit; "Fix syntax error in repocreate" [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30179 [17:12:39] New patchset: Nikerabbit; "Fix toolserver export" [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30180 [17:13:03] 03(mod) "This image rendered as PNG in other sizes" string could mention "width" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41405 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [17:14:55] New review: Mdale; "merge fix for black frames for local thumbnails" [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29560 [17:15:08] Change merged: Mdale; [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29560 [17:16:01] 03(mod) flowRoot not supported by rsvg - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41424 (10Andre Klapper) [17:17:26] 03(mod) rsvg does not render baseline-shift correctly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/5792 (10Andre Klapper) [17:18:37] 03(mod) PDF image extraction fails - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/23326 +comment (10Nemo_bis) [17:19:07] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Implement keyboard command registry - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40896 (10James Forrester) [17:21:26] 03(mod) VisualEditor: When "Error saving data to server: Unsuccessful request: error." the spinner for saving doesn't go away - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37837 (10James Forrester) [17:21:27] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Un-listing when the caret is at the end of the document throws an error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40339 (10James Forrester) [17:21:28] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Various actions that trigger retrieval of offsets throw uncaught exceptions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40463 (10James Forrester) [17:24:49] 03(mod) "This image rendered as PNG in other sizes" string could mention "width" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41405 (10Nemo_bis) [17:27:17] 03(FIXED) "This image rendered as PNG in other sizes" string could mention "width" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41405 (10Nemo_bis) [17:27:35] 03(mod) Editing busted in IE8 (at least) due to EventLogging - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41428 +comment (10Jesús Martínez Novo) [17:28:06] New patchset: Trevor Parscal; "Whitespace and comment cleanup on ve.ce.SurfaceObserver" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30181 [17:28:49] Just a quick question - if I created a group 'Rollback' and the $wg permissions are set... what could cause the group to *not* show up in Special:UserRights [17:28:50] 03(mod) "This image rendered as PNG in other sizes" string could mention "width" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41405 +comment (10Tomasz W. Kozłowski) [17:30:22] Dusti, not show up at all? [17:30:44] Yeah... it doesn't show up in the userrights page [17:30:46] to grant the right [17:30:47] Or you just don't have the permission to add it? [17:31:04] It doesnt show up period [17:31:06] I have $wgGroupPermissoins['rollback']['rollback'] = true; [17:31:13] -.- [17:31:22] It'd help if I could spell right, eh? [17:31:28] lol [17:31:42] *face palm* [17:31:42] What wiki version? [17:31:52] I just fixed it - Permissions was typo'd [17:32:04] :p [17:32:04] oins instead of ions [17:32:12] I'm lame [17:32:42] I have a question about downloading MW with git, I am using "git checkout 1.19.2" to get the latest release as per the instructions for a checkout based on tags, but I get an error when I attempt to "git pull" afterwards [17:32:46] if i would like to apply template to a string that ends with a closing curly brace, how could that be done ? for example, {{func|{contents}}} (currently it stops processing after first two closing braces, i'd like it to ignore the very first one) [17:33:14] it says ... "You are in 'detached HEAD' state etc..." [17:33:17] <^demon> d420: If you checked out a tag, you can't pull because you're in a detached head. [17:33:27] <^demon> (ie: you're not on a branch) [17:33:51] <^demon> If you're wanting to use the REL1_19, instead you should `git checkout REL1_19 origin/REL1_19` [17:34:06] <^demon> `git checkout -b REL1_19 origin/REL1_19` even [17:34:12] thank you [17:34:26] <^demon> You're welcome. [17:35:19] New patchset: Ori.livneh; "(Bug 41428) Fix 'enum' usage; + misc. improvements" [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30131 [17:35:26] 03(FIXED) Point Wikipedias logo to more up to date 2.0 version on Commons where available - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40285 (10Nemo_bis) [17:35:26] hmm. i can do } , but that makes source really ugly :) [17:35:40] 03(mod) textPath is not supported by rsvg - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/9420 (10Andre Klapper) [17:35:56] Richlv: use the CNR of the character instead, for example, } in place of } [17:36:11] 03(mod) MessageIndexRebuild memory hungry - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39382 +comment (10Niklas Laxström) [17:36:14] and { in place of { [17:36:44] 03(mod) LastModified should not be displayed while creating a non-existent page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41417 (10Andre Klapper) [17:37:11] 03(NEW) Wikidata auto-login not working properly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41429 normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (b) [17:37:11] Vulpix, thanks, not very clean either, but a but shorter :) [17:37:51] if it makes sense, you can put the entire {contents} inside nowiki tags and not only the first "}" [17:37:56] 03(mod) mw.loader.load() fails in IE8 when loading external stylesheet - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41331 +comment (10Erwin Dokter) [17:37:56] 03(FIXED) Localize project name and namespaces on hsb.wiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41328 (10Nemo_bis) [17:38:11] 03(FIXED) New namespaces for Kazakh Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40794 (10Nemo_bis) [17:38:18] 03(mod) FlaggedRevs depends on legacy JavaScript globals (wgFlaggedRevsParams is not defined) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41415 summary (10Andre Klapper) [17:38:56] 03(mod) Some messages of advertising functions need GENDER support - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31443 +patch-in-gerrit (10Andre Klapper) [17:40:11] 03(FIXED) Editing busted in IE8 (at least) due to EventLogging - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41428 +comment (10Ori Livneh) [17:40:26] Vulpix, ah. can i maybe make template contents be ? [17:40:45] opbviously, just adding that in the template gets me {{{1}}} :) [17:40:56] obv. [17:41:11] http://wikimedia.7.n6.nabble.com/Mediawiki-l-lt-nowiki-gt-around-template-arguments-td684865.html [17:41:15] that's what i'd like to do as well.. [17:43:14] 03(mod) Impossible to step from "Upload" to "Release right" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37073 +comment (10HJ Mitchell) [17:43:44] Richlv: No, you can't put around a template parameter inside a template and expect it to work [17:44:14] but you can add the on the template call where you're including the parameter [17:44:39] for example, {{func|{contents}}} [17:44:59] New patchset: Umherirrender; "Search duplicated archived file on upload with hash only" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30183 [17:45:17] Vulpix, yeah, i wanted to keep page contents easier to edit [17:45:23] Quick question - if I create a group (i.e. Founder) - is there a way to have it inherit all permissions instead of having all the flags ticked? Just curious [17:45:23] the trick at http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/wiki/mediawiki/118688 _almost_ works [17:46:07] New review: Umherirrender; "Maybe needs some love with the constructor of ArchivedFile. Has some one a idea? Feel free to change..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30183 [17:46:51] Richlv: you may want to try this http://disable.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Code (it uses 2 templates, one for begin and another for end) [17:47:14] but it uses
 tags instead of 
[17:47:49] 	 New review: Ori.livneh; "Thanks" [mediawiki/extensions/PostEdit] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30125
[17:48:58] 	 ^demon: thanks for your help earlier with bug #41428
[17:49:18] 	 !b 41428
[17:49:18] 	 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41428
[17:49:18] <^demon>	 No problem. Just disabled it on enwiki until fixes are ready :)
[17:49:28] 	 03(mod) PHP Notice: Undefined variable: content in extensions/CentralNotice/special/SpecialBannerLoader.php on line 58 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41410   +fundraising; +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[17:49:30] <^demon>	 ori-l: I left it on for testwiki if you need it for debugging
[17:50:16] 	 Vulpix, yeah, that's very similar to the suggestion in that list thread, and result seems to be the same (cuts off last curly brace even more)
[17:50:35] 	 or maybe i'll just mod the template and require omitting curly braces
[17:50:41] 	 03(mod) rsvg does not support the font shorthand style property - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41425   +upstream (10Andre Klapper)
[17:51:12] 	 ^demon: awesome, thanks
[17:51:19] 	 03(mod) Incorrect text positioning in SVG rasterization (tspan x attribute; upstream) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33245  (10Andre Klapper)
[17:52:26] 	 New patchset: Umherirrender; "Use selectRow when load one ArchivedFile" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30188
[17:53:12] 	 Change merged: Catrope; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29900
[17:56:56] 	 New patchset: Physikerwelt; "Restructuring of the classes. The Math.body file which contains the MathRender class was split in the following way Math.base contains the base class with the database related stuff and provides an abstract interface Math.source and Math.MathJax handle th" [mediawiki/extensions/Math] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30177
[17:59:01] 	 New review: Physikerwelt; "see new version at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/30177/" [mediawiki/extensions/Math] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28824
[17:59:23] 	 New patchset: Trevor Parscal; "Add ve.dm.SurfaceFragment.getAnnotations()" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29901
[18:00:04] 	 14(INVALID) Error of page views per language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41413  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[18:01:14] 	 New patchset: Trevor Parscal; "Add ve.dm.SurfaceFragment.getAnnotations()" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29901
[18:02:46] 	 thedj[work]: Hey, I wonder if I can ping you about maybe being a mentor in https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Google_Code-In
[18:03:30] 	 thedj[work]: We need more people, and you'd be great :)
[18:04:06] 	 New patchset: Catrope; "Add ve.dm.SurfaceFragment.getAnnotations()" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29901
[18:05:59] 	 Change merged: Catrope; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29901
[18:08:14] 	 03(mod) PHP Notice: Undefined variable: content in extensions/CentralNotice/special/SpecialBannerLoader.php on line 58 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41410  +comment (10Adam Wight)
[18:11:07] 	 New patchset: Nikerabbit; "Document SingleFileBasedMessageGroup properly" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30190
[18:11:38] 	 03(FIXED) Keep home-random menu expanded after clicking random - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30842  +comment (10Jon)
[18:12:44] 	 03(mod) rsvg cannot handle classes/ids with cyrillic alphabet when styling - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41422   +i18n; summary (10Andre Klapper)
[18:14:21] 	 03(NEW) Two summary buttons on back press - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41430 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend (Beta); (jrobson)
[18:15:31] 	 New review: Raimond Spekking; "I think it is, see https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:AbuseFilter/&result=succe..." [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master) C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30128
[18:15:44] 	 Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/extensions/FlaggedRevs] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30127
[18:15:50] 	 ^demon: I am a little confused about adding extensions with git, for example git clone https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/p/mediawiki/extensions/.git  should be run from within the extensions folder?
[18:16:07] <^demon>	 That would work, yes.
[18:16:36] 	 great thanks
[18:17:02] 	 03(mod) hsl colors not supported by rsvg - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41426   +upstream; +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[18:19:45] 	 wen I attempt to "git submodule update --init" from within extensions folder it says "You need to run this command from the toplevel of the working tree"
[18:20:15] 	 Just doing git clone doesn't make it a submodule
[18:21:07] 	 03(mod) rsvg does not support marker styling - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41427   +upstream; +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[18:21:28] 	 I am a little confused by instructions here http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Download_from_Git#Using_Git_to_download_MediaWiki_extensions
[18:21:34] 	 New patchset: Nikerabbit; "Rewritten $wgAdaptiveMessageCache" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29793
[18:21:59] 	 Which bit?
[18:22:13] 	 AaronSchulz: is that what you wanted?
[18:22:57] 	 Reedy: regarding how I should add extensions with git, is it not always necesarry to make the extensions a submodule?
[18:23:37] 	 Reedy: I don't wan't to dowload all extensions, but I see that most of teh one sI need are here https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/admin/projects/
[18:23:58] 	 New patchset: Umherirrender; "Fix indentation whitespace errors" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30192
[18:26:17] 	 03(mod) Add caching to info action - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39490  +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[18:26:29] 	 d420: clone them all manually
[18:27:27] 	 Reedy: so I just clone them inside the extensions folder, and then that's it, I don't have to do anything more ? 
[18:27:27] 	 New patchset: Hoo man; "Run filter number through formatNum()" [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30128
[18:28:01] 	 New review: Hoo man; "Caught one more ;)" [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master) C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30128
[18:28:33] 	 Yup
[18:28:42] 	 Updating them is slightly more annoying
[18:28:45] 	 but can be easily scripted
[18:29:57] 	 Reedy: got it. thanks again
[18:30:25] 	 New patchset: Adamw; "skip bannerlistloader" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30106
[18:32:18] 	 New patchset: Raimond Spekking; "[Solarium] Register extension" [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30193
[18:32:48] 	 Change merged: Raimond Spekking; [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30193
[18:33:56] 	 New patchset: Yaron Koren; "Improved some formatting in code and comments." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticForms] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30194
[18:34:38] 	 Change merged: Yaron Koren; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticForms] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30194
[18:35:26] 	 Change merged: Nikerabbit; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30161
[18:35:32] 	 New patchset: Raimond Spekking; "[MobileFrontend] Add new optional key" [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30195
[18:35:41] 	 New review: Physikerwelt; "wrong branch" [mediawiki/extensions/Math] (master) C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30144
[18:35:54] 	 Change merged: Raimond Spekking; [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30195
[18:36:13] 	 New patchset: Adamw; "skip bannerlistloader" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30106
[18:36:40] 	 03(mod) getTextForSummary() called on non-object - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41370  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[18:36:46] 	 03(mod) Pinch zoom on Opera - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41397  +comment (10Jon)
[18:50:46] 	 03(NEW) Win8 app crashes when hub loaded in Tamil (ta) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41431 normal; Wikipedia App: Localization/Translation/Language; (brion)
[18:52:09] 	 03(NEW) Win8: Chinese "on this day" entries show huge text, "undefined" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41432 normal; Wikipedia App: Localization/Translation/Language; (brion)
[18:53:05] 	 Hey ^demon: how do I add git review to an extension repo?
[18:53:35] <^demon>	 csteipp: Add a .gitreview file
[18:54:20] 	 Ah, that's right... Thanks!
[18:54:48] 	 New patchset: CSteipp; "Initial Commit of Wikivoyage "BreadCrumbs"" [mediawiki/extensions/GeoCrumbs] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30196
[18:55:03] 	 New review: Spage; "wfDebugLog() undefined for me.  Investigating..." [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master); V: -1 C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30131
[18:57:27] 	 Change merged: Nikerabbit; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30172
[18:58:45] 	 New patchset: Raimond Spekking; "[EventLogging] Deployed on WMF cluster" [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30198
[18:59:00] 	 Change merged: Raimond Spekking; [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30198
[18:59:15] 	 Hey, I have a problem with .htaccess redirect / URL structure. I used tu have url structure like asdf.com/Article but I'm migrating to asdf.com/wiki/Article. Anyway, I wouldn't like to lose all my Google hits so I need a 301 redirect asdf.com/Article -> asdf.com/wiki/Article. Unfortunately it doesn't seem to be very simple.
[19:01:00] 	 I dunno why for example http://apologetiikkawiki.fi/asdfasdf redirects to http://apologetiikkawiki.fi/wiki/Etusivu. I'm getting confused. Any ideas?
[19:01:16] 	 This is my .htaccess: http://pastebin.com/CbniBvMq
[19:03:28] 	 anybody knows the equivalent of http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/tools/ in gerrit?
[19:04:12] 	 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?p=mediawiki/tools.git
[19:04:12] 	 14(INVALID) File upload using SwiftCloudFiles returns 'Could not create directory "mwstore://localSwift/public".' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40932  +comment (10Tom Noonan II)
[19:04:34] 	 New patchset: Reedy; "Add .gitreview and .gitignore" [mediawiki/extensions/GeoCrumbs] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30199
[19:04:45] 	 New patchset: Reedy; "Add .gitreview and .gitignore" [mediawiki/extensions/PlaceNewSection] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30200
[19:04:58] 	 New patchset: Reedy; "Add .gitreview and .gitignore" [mediawiki/extensions/WikiFarm] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30201
[19:05:13] 	 Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions/WikiFarm] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30201
[19:05:16] 	 Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions/PlaceNewSection] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30200
[19:05:51] 	 csteipp: Did you commit your git review yet?
[19:06:37] 	 Not quite... 
[19:06:42] 	 03(mod) Wikidata auto-login not working properly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41429  (10Aude)
[19:07:27] 	 03(mod) Wikidata auto-login not working properly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41429  +comment (10Aude)
[19:07:56] 	 Actually, Reedy, yes, I did commit one patchset, but I'm doing the rename atm... just a few more replacements and it should be working..
[19:07:59] 	 thanks Brooke for filing that bug :)
[19:09:31] <^demon>	 andre__: There is no exact 1:1 match for that...various things in that directory have ended up different places in gerrit.
[19:09:48] <^demon>	 *most* of them will probably end up in mediawiki/tools/*, but the vast majority haven't been migrated yet.
[19:10:13] 	 ^demon, if you have more info I'd be happy to know. Currently the "Tools" product in Bugzilla feels like a wastedump and it states "stuff that's in the SVN product". Which is wrong now.
[19:10:25] 	 I see
[19:10:40] 	 not migrated yet = likely that they are dead.
[19:11:58] 	 New patchset: Mwalker; "CentralNotice Banner Bucketing [FR2012 626]" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29614
[19:12:12] 	 New patchset: CSteipp; "Rename Bread to Geo" [mediawiki/extensions/GeoCrumbs] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30203
[19:13:44] 	 hey thedj[work] & brion - we have a new developer giving us a lot of Extension:Math patchsets.  Do either of you have any interest in giving him/her feedback? https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/dashboard/183
[19:13:55] 	 thedj: ^
[19:14:11] 	 hi Erkkimon
[19:14:41] 	 New patchset: Reedy; "Add GeoCrumbs, PlaceNewSection and WikiFarm to meta repo" [mediawiki/extensions] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30205
[19:14:46] 	 sumanah: some help with git could be useful to him/her
[19:14:57] 	 Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30205
[19:15:04] 	 Nikerabbit: oh? has Physikerwelt been making git errors?
[19:15:14] * aude  appreciates that you don't assume he/she is a he :)
[19:15:15] 	 physikerwelt: oh you're here! hi!
[19:15:24] 	 aude: :D
[19:15:34] 	 New review: CSteipp; "Initial Merge to get things in the repo. Most of the code is from HansM, with some cleanup by me for..." [mediawiki/extensions/GeoCrumbs] (master); V: 0 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30196
[19:15:42] 	 New review: CSteipp; "Initial Merge to get things in the repo. Most of the code is from HansM, with some cleanup by me for..." [mediawiki/extensions/GeoCrumbs] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30196
[19:15:42] 	 Change merged: CSteipp; [mediawiki/extensions/GeoCrumbs] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30196
[19:15:45] 	 New patchset: Reedy; "Set branch" [mediawiki/extensions] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30206
[19:15:54] 	 Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30206
[19:16:38] 	 csteipp: do we have a list of repos we've abandoned now? So we can get ^demon to mark them for deletion/do not use
[19:16:47] 	 From the initial list?
[19:17:13] 	 yeah
[19:17:31] 	 Probably just https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikivoyage_migration/Extensions
[19:17:32] 	 Might aswell clear stuff up and stop people checking them out un-necesserily
[19:17:54] 	 GeoMath...
[19:18:29] 	 Yep
[19:18:31] 	 sumanah: I think i've got about 3-4 potential longtime contributors. They just finished making a gadget, and are being welcomed in #wikipedia-en with more requests :)
[19:18:42] 	 New review: Hoo man; "There are several things one should take a look at...." [mediawiki/extensions/GeoCrumbs] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30196
[19:18:57] 	 Since we can't delete repos, maybe commit a text file that says it was moved?
[19:19:31] 	 We usually just put a comment of "to be deleted"
[19:19:52] 	 I can't wait until I can delete the 15-20 repos we need to delete.
[19:19:55] 	 Change abandoned: Reedy; "No point doing this. Will get Chad to close repo and mark for future deletion" [mediawiki/extensions/GeoMath] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28349
[19:20:44] 	 New review: CSteipp; "Renaming files and classes from Bread to Geo" [mediawiki/extensions/GeoCrumbs] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30203
[19:20:45] 	 Change merged: CSteipp; [mediawiki/extensions/GeoCrumbs] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30203
[19:21:35] 	 sumanah: re: math stuff, i'll take a peek at em
[19:21:44] 	 03(mod) key 'rsion=' is not in a proper format - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41306  +comment (10Jan Gerber)
[19:21:49] 	 labs-home-wm_: GeoMath and SlippyMap
[19:22:13] 	 Reedy: Set description as DELETE or somesuch.
[19:23:03] 	 Mark as readonly too?
[19:24:20] 	 sumanah: yeah, it's on my radar. hopefully i have some time tomorrow.
[19:24:47] 	 i still have 6 math patches waiting for review myself though
[19:24:52] 	 New review: Physikerwelt; "For a demo see" [mediawiki/extensions/Math] (master) C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30177
[19:25:11] 	 Reedy: Yeah, that's fine.
[19:26:01] 	 New patchset: Reedy; "Remove GeoMath and SlippyMap" [mediawiki/extensions] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30208
[19:26:20] 	 Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30208
[19:26:35] 	 physikerwelt: good work and keep pestering us if it's going forward too slow :D
[19:29:00] 	 thanks brion & thedj - I appreciate it.
[19:29:18] 	 yuvipanda: this is great! joining the relevant channel now
[19:29:29] 	 New patchset: Reedy; "Kill off CreditSource too" [mediawiki/extensions] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30209
[19:29:44] 	 Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30209
[19:31:32] 	 yuvipanda: do you think they need any particular encouragement or nurturing that I can give?
[19:32:28] 	 Nikerabbit: "doing translatewiki.net"? sounds a little funny :)
[19:32:43] 	 sumanah: I'm not seeing yuvipanda talking on here, are you sure he/she is not talking to you in private messages/notices? :P
[19:32:46] 	 maybe "running"
[19:33:20] 	 03(mod) Add caching to info action - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39490  +comment (10Tyler Romeo)
[19:33:32] 	 sumanah: post hackathon followup would be nice - especially pointing people to them
[19:34:41] 	 Vulpix: I actually have seen yuvipanda in the last 10 min including just now ... .check the public logs
[19:34:56] 	 sumanah: oh, and a personal 'welcome' message of sorts on their talk page is fine
[19:35:01] 	 sumanah: sorry, it got lost in my backlog!
[19:35:10] 	 Vulpix: http://bots.wmflabs.org/~wm-bot/logs/%23mediawiki/20121026.txt - no prob!
[19:35:25] 	 New patchset: Nikerabbit; "Guard for web execution" [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30210
[19:36:09] 	 AaronSchulz: s/doing// if it is too funny?
[19:36:24] 	 yuvipanda: sure, I can do that. Give me a list of usernames?
[19:36:26] 	 sumanah: Having people interact with them on -en made them feel pretty great, and I think a talkpage message would too
[19:36:33] 	 sumanah: i'll pm them in a sec
[19:36:34] 	 Nikerabbit: that's fine too
[19:36:39] 	 the list, that is
[19:36:39] 	 sure!
[19:37:13] 	 03(mod) Display "Mobile Platform" custom field only for relevant products/components - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41197  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[19:39:53] 	 New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "fix thumbnail extraction with ForeignDBViaLBRepo" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30134
[19:42:35] 	 03(ASSIGNED) Mediawiki:Mwe-upwiz-deeds-macro-prompt needs {{GENDER}} - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39559  (10Amir E. Aharoni)
[19:44:02] 	 New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "fix thumbnail extraction with ForeignDBViaLBRepo" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30134
[19:44:14] 	 sumanah: done
[19:44:43] 	 yuvipanda: ok! thanks
[19:45:11] 	 03(NEW) Kill prototype.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41433 normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (aklapper)
[19:46:18] 	 Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30134
[19:47:12] 	 Ryan_Lane: ^^
[19:47:24] 	 New patchset: Mwalker; "CentralNotice Banner Bucketing [FR2012 626]" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29614
[19:47:59] 	 03(mod) Kill prototype.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41433  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[19:48:52] 	 New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "Rewritten $wgAdaptiveMessageCache" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29793
[19:50:06] 	 New review: Catrope; "Probably needs a more elaborate commit summary as well" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master); V: 0 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29905
[19:55:05] 	 New patchset: Amire80; "(bug 39559) Add GENDER support to upwiz-deeds-macro-prompt" [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30273
[19:55:44] 	 Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29793
[19:56:14] 	 New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "Updated TimedMediaHandler to master." [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30274
[19:57:37] 	 Reedy: ?
[19:58:06] 	 Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30274
[19:58:12] 	 03(mod) Mediawiki:Mwe-upwiz-deeds-macro-prompt needs {{GENDER}} - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39559   +patch-in-gerrit; +comment (10Amir E. Aharoni)
[19:58:17] 	 I've been asking for ages to have prototype killed
[19:58:19] 	 RoanKattouw: ^^ ?
[19:58:27] 	 Yeah I know
[19:58:29] 	 KILL IT WITH FIRE
[19:58:42] 	 like I have any choice?
[19:58:47] 	 people are still using it AFAIK
[19:59:41] <^demon|busy>	 Who is using it?
[19:59:43] <^demon|busy>	 Can we hit them?
[19:59:47] <^demon|busy>	 With steel pipes?
[20:00:57] 	 ^demon|busy Ryan_Lane the last project on prototype was AFTv5 and they're no longer using it.  I've been using AFTv5 on beta labs, but beta is down right now, this is new since yesterday.  
[20:00:58] 	 03(mod) Android 2.3.4 and 2.3.5 section issues - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41412  +comment (10Jon)
[20:01:02] 	 http://en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/Main_Page
[20:03:30] 	 03(mod) Kill prototype.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41433  +comment (10Chris McMahon)
[20:03:48] 	 New patchset: Physikerwelt; "adjustment to new version of Maht (parser)" [mediawiki/extensions/MathSearch] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30275
[20:04:43] 	 Maht...
[20:05:27] 	 03(mod) Android 2.3.4 and 2.3.5 section issues - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41412  +comment (10Brion Vibber)
[20:06:56] 	 Ryan_Lane: I don't know who's still using prototype
[20:07:16] 	 i'll just turn it off and see who complains
[20:09:10] 	 I don't think anyone will complain
[20:09:41] 	 me either
[20:10:00] 	 New patchset: Parent5446; "Added Uri class and Uri Query classes." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22167
[20:10:11] 	 03(NEW) Converting format across 2 lists with paragraphs in between fails - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41434 normal; VisualEditor: Data Model; (tparscal)
[20:13:57] 	 brion: does https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/28308/ seem ok?
[20:20:23] 	 03(mod) Android 2.3.4 and 2.3.5 section issues - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41412  +comment (10Jon)
[20:21:18] 	 New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "Simplified thumb.php for 404 handling." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28308
[20:21:49] 	 New patchset: Trevor Parscal; "Add ve.Action, ve.ActionFactory, subclasses" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29905
[20:24:05] 	 New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "Updated MwEmbedSupport to master." [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30276
[20:24:15] 	 Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30276
[20:28:53] 	 03(NEW) Microsoft Translator translation service errors - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41435 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Translate; (federicoleva)
[20:28:55] 	 03(mod) Bugs affecting translatewiki.net (errors from MediaWiki master) (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39480  (10Nemo_bis)
[20:30:09] 	 Nikerabbit: can bug 40378 and friends be resolved?
[20:30:21] 	 03(FIXED) Create a Wikidata repository - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40137  +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[20:34:02] 	 New patchset: Raimond Spekking; "[GeoMath][SlippyMap] Disable deleted extensions" [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30277
[20:34:10] 	 Change merged: Raimond Spekking; [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30277
[20:34:44] 	 03(NEW) Insufficient information to determine the title of the revision's page! - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41436 normal; MediaWiki: ContentHandler; (sam)
[20:34:56] 	 03(mod) Insufficient information to determine the title of the revision's page! - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41436  (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[20:34:57] 	 New review: Tychay; "Just counting my -1 here until James can also -2. :-)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25170
[20:36:54] 	 03(mod) Insufficient information to determine the title of the revision's page! - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41436  +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[20:38:32] 	 03(mod) getTextForSummary() called on non-object - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41370  +comment (10Jérémie Roquet)
[20:40:40] 	 New patchset: Reedy; "(Bug 41370) protect aginst content-less revisions" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30278
[20:42:00] 	 New patchset: Reedy; "(bug 41409) Fix regression in diffs while editing old revisions" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30279
[20:42:07] 	 Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30278
[20:42:15] 	 03(mod) PDF image extraction fails - upgrade ghostscript - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/23326   +ops; summary; +comment (10Bawolff)
[20:42:15] 	 Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30279
[20:44:06] 	 03(FIXED) getTextForSummary() called on non-object - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41370  +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[20:45:07] 	 could somebody look at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/29434/ ? a one-line html escaping fix for cologneblue
[20:45:53] 	 03(VERIFIED) getTextForSummary() called on non-object - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41370  +comment (10Jérémie Roquet)
[20:47:31] 	 New patchset: Ori.livneh; "(Bug 41428) Fix 'enum' usage; + misc. improvements" [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30131
[20:47:41] 	 03(mod) [Regression] Error creating thumbnail: Error reading SVG:Invalid URI - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41372  +comment (10Bawolff)
[20:49:37] 	 Change merged: Ori.livneh; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29434
[20:49:48] 	 ^ MatmaRex
[20:50:01] 	 New patchset: Trevor Parscal; "UI context reorganization, inspector rewrite, iframe refactor, icon generalization" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29906
[20:51:02] 	 03(FIXED) Wikidata auto-login not working properly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41429  +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[20:52:18] 	 hi
[20:52:32] 	 is there a message that appears on all talk pages?
[20:52:38] 	 instead of 'site message'
[20:53:24] 	 faceface: mediawiki:talkpageheader
[20:53:34] 	 ori-l: thanks :)
[20:53:37] 	 liangent: ++
[20:54:06] 	 MatmaRex: RoanKattouw_away added a comment after I merged; making sure you saw that.
[20:56:26] 	 yes, i just did, and replied
[20:56:34] 	 RoanKattouw_away: ^
[20:57:35] 	 OK
[20:57:40] 	 Well I guess it would require more detective work to figure this out
[20:57:58] 	 it might mae sense to escape just to be on the safe side
[20:58:00] 	 make*
[20:58:05] 	 let me look how vector does this stuff
[20:58:11] 	 03(FIXED) Fix PDF rendering by upgrading image scaler Ghostscript to 9.05+ - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36580  +comment (10Nemo_bis)
[20:58:14] 	 03(mod) PDF image extraction fails - upgrade ghostscript - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/23326  (10Nemo_bis)
[20:58:42] 	 liangent: thanks again
[20:58:53] 	 03(mod) PDF image extraction fails - upgrade ghostscript - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/23326  +comment (10Nemo_bis)
[20:59:22] 	 New patchset: Trevor Parscal; "Add commands to ve.Surface" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29908
[20:59:59] 	 it looks like the entire this is escaped in vector
[21:00:10] 	 $msgObj = wfMessage( $msg ); echo htmlspecialchars( $msgObj->exists() ? $msgObj->text() : $msg )
[21:00:21] 	 oh well, here goes another patchset...
[21:00:22] 	 New patchset: Bsitu; "Add global default email footer message" [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30066
[21:01:05] 	 New review: Bsitu; "Do not merge till the copy is finalized" [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master); V: -1 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30066
[21:01:43] 	 New patchset: Catrope; "(bug 37843) Trying to edit a blank page fails" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30281
[21:02:48] 	 New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "Minor documentation fix." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30282
[21:02:48] * AaronSchulz  wants hot chocolate for some reason...
[21:05:33] 	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Throws error when trying to edit blank (but existing) page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37843  +comment (10Roan Kattouw)
[21:06:06] 	 RoanKattouw: i'm uploading another changeset
[21:06:08] 	 New review: CSteipp; "Great!" [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master); V: 0 C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30210
[21:06:10] 	 New patchset: Matmarex; "fix sidebar HTML escaping in CologneBlue (again)" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30283
[21:06:18] 	 RoanKattouw: ^
[21:06:33] 	 "git review" took like 2 minutes :/
[21:09:08] 	 03(mod) Insufficient information to determine the title of the revision's page! - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41436  +comment (10Daniel Kinzler)
[21:09:41] 	 Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30282
[21:10:26] 	 Change merged: Catrope; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30283
[21:10:38] 	 03(mod) Insufficient information to determine the title of the revision's page! - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41436  +comment (10Daniel Kinzler)
[21:14:47] 	 New patchset: Matmarex; "(bug 1) document Skin::buildSidebar per own experience" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29422
[21:15:19] 	 New review: Matmarex; "More about escaping; lesson learned from If9394a62 this time." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29422
[21:16:37] 	 03(NEW) Wikidata SSL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41437 normal; Wikimedia: SSL related; (krenair)
[21:17:23] 	 03(NEW) Name of delete function is incorrect - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41438 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Moodbar; (swalling)
[21:17:47] 	 03(mod) Wikidata SSL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41437   +wikidata (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[21:19:22] 	 03(NEW) Make be language a fallback for be-tarask - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41439 normal; MediaWiki: Internationalization; (Platonides)
[21:19:46] 	 03(mod) Make be language a fallback for be-tarask - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41439  +comment (10Platonides)
[21:20:33] 	 03(mod) Name of delete function is incorrect - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41438  +comment (10Steven Walling)
[21:21:49] 	 New patchset: Platonides; "(bug 41439) Set be as fallback language for be-tarask." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29801
[21:22:05] 	 New review: Platonides; "Logged it at bug 41439" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29801
[21:23:16] 	 03(mod) Name of delete function is incorrect - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41438  +comment (10Steven Walling)
[21:25:53] 	 New patchset: Trevor Parscal; "Tools changes" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29907
[21:26:05] 	 aude: No problem. :-)
[21:27:05] 	 03(mod) Make be language a fallback for be-tarask - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41439  +comment (10Paul Selitskas)
[21:27:13] 	 New patchset: Amire80; "A little cleanup in gender" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30285
[21:29:44] 	 Change merged: Trevor Parscal; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30281
[21:30:43] 	 03(FIXED) VisualEditor: Throws error when trying to edit blank (but existing) page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37843  +comment (10Trevor Parscal)
[21:31:43] 	 03(mod) Add editbugs user right to legitimate Bugzilla accounts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40497  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[21:39:49] 	 New patchset: Catrope; "Tools changes" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29907
[21:39:49] 	 New patchset: Catrope; "UI context reorganization, inspector rewrite, iframe refactor, icon generalization" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29906
[21:39:49] 	 New patchset: Catrope; "Add ve.Action, ve.ActionFactory, subclasses" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29905
[21:39:49] 	 New patchset: Catrope; "Add ve.dm.Surface.has{Past,Future}State, add docs" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29904
[21:39:50] 	 New patchset: Catrope; "Add commands to ve.Surface" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29908
[21:39:51] 	 New patchset: Catrope; "Add ve.dm.Node.hasMatchingAncestor()" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29902
[21:39:51] 	 New patchset: Catrope; "Add ve.dm.Node.hasAttributes()" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29903
[21:40:17] 	 New patchset: Alex Monk; "(bug 41438) Some MoodBar deletion message creations/changes" [mediawiki/extensions/MoodBar] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30286
[21:40:48] 	 03(mod) Name of delete function is incorrect - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41438  +comment (10Krenair)
[21:42:53] 	 03(mod) Insufficient information to determine the title of the revision's page! - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41436  +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[21:43:34] 	 03(mod) MobileFrontend should load sections dynamically as much as possible to avoid downloading never-viewed text and images - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31011  +comment (10Jon)
[21:44:00] 	 Lydia_WMDE: ping re Wikidata update for https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_engineering_report/2012/October
[21:44:13] 	 New patchset: Platonides; "The class is named Revision, no need to shout its name :) Remove a couple of unused globals." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30287
[21:44:14] 	 sumanah: hey
[21:44:24] 	 Lydia_WMDE: sumanah: We have a wiki!!
[21:44:24] 	 yes on my todo list for the weekend
[21:44:36] 	 been at conferences all week
[21:44:36] 	 Reedy: \o/
[21:44:44] 	 Reedy: what's the status?
[21:44:56] * sumanah  waits for a link
[21:45:06] 	 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41436
[21:45:06] 	 ^ Broken!
[21:45:21] 	 Lydia_WMDE: :)
[21:45:37] 	 hey aude
[21:45:52] 	 i think no page creation until monday or soon as we can poke and fix the bug
[21:45:56] 	 but you can edit the main page
[21:45:58] 	 ok
[21:46:22] 	 is this a blocker for deployment on Monday, Reedy?
[21:46:24] 	 sumanah: it's only with the content handler db setting on
[21:46:28] 	 Nah
[21:46:30] 	 ok
[21:46:31] 	 thanks
[21:46:31] 	 it's off by default everywhere else
[21:46:52] 	 It's only broken for wikidata usages
[21:46:52] 	 03(FIXED) Error creating thumbnail: oggThumb failed to create the thumbnail. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41376  +comment (10Jan Gerber)
[21:46:52] 	 I'm keeping Daniel in supply of fresh bugs
[21:46:54] 	 and works perfectly fine on my test wiki with the deployment branch of core + wikibase
[21:46:58] 	 heh
[21:47:08] 	 but sure we can fix
[21:47:15] 	 whatever the cause
[21:47:26] 	 It'll be related to something weird we do
[21:47:32] 	 sure
[21:47:44] 	 New review: Platonides; "The global $egWBRemoteTitleNormalization (MediaWikiSite.php:69) is wrongly named and unused (but doc..." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23528
[21:48:56] 	 Who hardcoded enwiki into MB's wikimedia config...
[21:49:00] 	 Platonides: are you fixing that one or want me to?
[21:50:55] 	 03(mod) Link to FeedBack dashboard not localized in MoodBar confirmation screen - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39612  +comment (10Krenair)
[21:51:35] 	 New patchset: Trevor Parscal; "Tools changes" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29907
[21:51:35] 	 New patchset: Trevor Parscal; "UI context reorganization, inspector rewrite, iframe refactor, icon generalization" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29906
[21:51:41] 	 New patchset: Trevor Parscal; "Add ve.Action, ve.ActionFactory, subclasses" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29905
[21:51:41] 	 New patchset: Trevor Parscal; "Add ve.dm.Surface.has{Past,Future}State, add docs" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29904
[21:51:41] 	 New patchset: Trevor Parscal; "Add commands to ve.Surface" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29908
[21:51:41] 	 New patchset: Trevor Parscal; "Add ve.dm.Node.hasMatchingAncestor()" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29902
[21:51:41] 	 New patchset: Trevor Parscal; "Add ve.dm.Node.hasAttributes()" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29903
[21:52:15] 	 03(mod) Table borders are always shown - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37222  +comment (10Jon)
[21:54:02] 	 Change merged: Catrope; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29908
[21:54:02] 	 Change merged: Catrope; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29907
[21:54:03] 	 Change merged: Catrope; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29906
[21:54:03] 	 Change merged: Catrope; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29905
[21:54:03] 	 Change merged: Catrope; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29904
[21:54:03] 	 Change merged: Catrope; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29903
[21:54:04] 	 Change merged: Catrope; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29902
[21:54:28] 	 03(NEW) Add ability to programmatically extract languages from a Wiktionary entry - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41440 normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (b)
[21:55:16] 	 03(mod) Add ability to programmatically extract languages from a Wiktionary entry - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41440  normal->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[21:55:44] 	 03(mod) job queue monitoring looks for 1.18 dir and fails / $wmfExtendedVersionNumber.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36835  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[21:56:06] 	 03(mod) Link to FeedBack dashboard not localized in MoodBar confirmation screen - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39612  +comment (10Krenair)
[21:56:27] 	 03(mod) Name of delete function is incorrect - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41438  (10bsitu)
[21:56:42] 	 hey there Krenair - how's it going?
[21:56:47] 	 Hi
[21:57:14] 	 I'm great. Just finished another half term of school, I have next week off
[21:57:58] 	 Krenair: rock!
[21:58:55] 	 Krenair: well, it looks like I am about to address https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Gerrit_project_ownership#Alex_Monk_be_added_to_Echo
[21:59:00] 	 Also earlier this week I got confirmation that I'll be able to tour Google's London offices on the 16th
[21:59:00] 	 Change merged: Catrope; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30181
[21:59:24] 	 Krenair: done
[21:59:36] 	 Krenair: neat! are you presenting there?
[22:00:08] 	 Had an email from them back in August about applying for a job there. Obviously I can't get one but we arranged for me to go there to talk to them and have a look around anyway
[22:00:16] 	 Presenting? Uh no
[22:00:50] 	 sumanah: thanks
[22:01:07] 	 New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "Avoid duplicate "null" change journal entries." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30290
[22:01:24] 	 Krenair: you are welcome! Bienvenue, Willkommen, Welcome
[22:02:05] 	 New patchset: Amire80; "A little cleanup in gender" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30285
[22:02:23] 	 ^demon|away, what's going on here? https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/26549/6/MoodBar.i18n.php (see https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41438 )
[22:02:33] 	 New patchset: Trevor Parscal; "Properly initialize static member before adding stuff to it" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30291
[22:02:33] 	 Krenair: remind me, when do you graduate from ..... wait, I've forgotten how things work in your educational system.  Is there still "high school" and "uni" or are there like A-levels and GCSEs and sixth form and something?
[22:02:52] <^demon|away>	 Krenair: This is old news (I feel like a broken record).
[22:02:57] <^demon|away>	 Gerrit doesn't like long i18n files.
[22:03:02] 	 sorry.
[22:03:07] 	 Change merged: Catrope; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30291
[22:03:17] 	 sumanah, we do GCSEs in secondary (high) school, A levels in sixth form
[22:03:42] 	 03(mod) Supporting MobileFrontend on beta labs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40605  +comment (10Rob Lanphier)
[22:03:48] * sumanah  memorized all this once and then forgot it
[22:04:10] 	 New review: Bsitu; "The change looks good but not quite complete, we should apply the update at the following gerrit back" [mediawiki/extensions/MoodBar] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30286
[22:04:18] 	 03(mod) Ploticus: not working at all - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/17137  +comment (10Markus Krötzsch)
[22:04:47] 	 Some people do do a-levels while doing their gcses...
[22:04:53] 	 I am a simple American, Krenair, and [insert self-deprecating flag-waving joke here]
[22:05:05] 	 I'll be completing my GCSEs at the end of this year
[22:05:11] 	 Reedy, really? never heard of that happening..
[22:05:18] * sumanah  is also in danger of mixing up stuff from Hogwarts into all this
[22:05:20] 	 haha
[22:05:25] 	 It's not overly common
[22:05:53] 	 sumanah: And once a year, the entire U.K. feels a little more stressed, because O.W.L.'s are just around the corner.
[22:06:19] 	 marktraceur: your joke has me Rowling on the floor laughing
[22:06:32] 	 sumanah: You know I was J.K.
[22:06:42] * MatmaRex  groans
[22:06:47] 	 lo, I am slain. that was terrible
[22:06:47] 	 congrats
[22:06:53] 	 ...
[22:07:07] 	 New review: Aaron Schulz; "What is the rationale or bug fix?" [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23514
[22:07:09] 	 that makes a perfect segue
[22:07:12] 	 https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Job_openings
[22:07:33] 	 Reedy: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/30290/ easy
[22:08:04] 	 Also, MatmaRex, I push you to https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Google_Code-In
[22:08:13] 	 o people of #mediawiki , if you want to work someplace where people pun THIS BAD, we're hiring.
[22:08:50] 	 03(mod) Wikidata SSL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41437  (10duplicatebug)
[22:09:05] 	 New review: Hoo man; "AFAIS right now every user locally able to revert log actions could do so as well for global log act..." [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master) C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23514
[22:09:20] 	 New patchset: Aude; "rm unused $egWBRemoteTitleNormalization var from MediaWikiSite.php" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30292
[22:09:35] 	 New patchset: Ori.livneh; "(Bug 41428) Fix 'enum' usage; + misc. improvements" [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30131
[22:10:24] 	 New patchset: Trevor Parscal; "Really properly initialize static member before adding stuff to it" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30293
[22:10:33] 	 Change merged: Catrope; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30293
[22:10:39] 	 marktraceur: i was thinking about signing up as a mentor
[22:10:54] 	 but i'm afraid i won't have time for this
[22:11:01] 	 New review: Aude; "follow-up to remove unused variable:" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23528
[22:11:16] 	 Change abandoned: Ori.livneh; "Plagued by unrelated Jenkins failure. Going to re-try this as a clean commit against tip." [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30091
[22:11:45] 	 marktraceur: is there some sort of a guide for mentors, maybe?
[22:11:54] 	 MatmaRex: You should! It's only 8 hours a week, I intend to fulfil that at night and on weekends. 36 hours for review shouldn't be a problem for us.
[22:11:54] 	 MatmaRex: do you think you would have time for a similar mentorship effort sometime in the future, say, January-March?
[22:11:57] 	 and would would the process looks like for WMF? students would be submitting to gerrit?
[22:12:04] 	 MatmaRex: I don't know if there's a guide, really
[22:12:09] 	 who would approve their changes there?
[22:12:25] 	 03(mod) Wikidata auto-login not working properly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41429  (10duplicatebug)
[22:12:33] 	 MatmaRex: I have +2 rights now, on most things, and I believe we could have you mentor primarily where you have (or *should* have) +2
[22:12:40] 	 New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Update extension E3Experiments to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30294
[22:12:49] 	 marktraceur: I ask you the same question. If there's a different but similar mentorship program to help us ramp up and nurture new contributors that goes Jan-March, could I ask you to participate?
[22:12:55] 	 i'm still in high school myself, i took part in GCI as a student last year, but i'm too old to be eligible now
[22:13:31] 	 sumanah: I'm always up for that :)
[22:13:34] 	 sumanah: jan-march it will be 100% impossible for me, sorry :) now, well, i'm thinking
[22:13:47] 	 (y'know, high school, final year, exams, all that)
[22:13:49] 	 marktraceur: great!
[22:13:57] 	 MatmaRex: understood.
[22:13:58] 	 sumanah: Really, I'd be happy to help with that sort of thing even without a special event for it
[22:13:59] 	 grateful for all you already provide
[22:14:12] 	 (be right back, 15 minutes)
[22:14:19] 	 marktraceur: oh I know, just wanted to check in case you were like "well actually in March I am snowboarding on the moon"
[22:14:42] 	 sumanah: Everyone know's the best moonboarding is in July, so March is good for me
[22:14:47] 	 knows*
[22:15:42] 	 sumanah: I hang out in #openhatch a lot hoping for just such opportunities, so having similar experiences with MediaWiki would be great
[22:15:44] 	 right!
[22:17:30] 	 Change merged: Ori.livneh; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30294
[22:18:58] 	 New patchset: Trevor Parscal; "(bug #41434) Converting format across 2 lists with paragraphs in between fail" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30295
[22:20:31] 	 Change merged: Catrope; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30295
[22:20:59] 	 03(FIXED) Converting format across 2 lists with paragraphs in between fails - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41434  +comment (10Roan Kattouw)
[22:21:30] 	 New patchset: Alex Monk; "(bug 41438) Some MoodBar deletion message creations/changes" [mediawiki/extensions/MoodBar] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30286
[22:22:20] 	 New patchset: Catrope; "Revert "Localisation updates from http://translatewiki.net."" [mediawiki/extensions/MoodBar] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30296
[22:23:04] 	 Change abandoned: Catrope; "Has already been done" [mediawiki/extensions/MoodBar] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30296
[22:24:03] 	 ok, getting in lots of Status updates - nice to see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Platform_Engineering getting fresher stuff :)
[22:27:00] 	 Change merged: Bsitu; [mediawiki/extensions/MoodBar] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30286
[22:28:08] 	 (back)
[22:29:17] 	 sumanah: there's also the thing that i might end up mentoring my schoolmates' work, and i'm not sure if it would be okay by google rules
[22:29:30] 	 Change merged: Alex Monk; [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30076
[22:29:33] 	 I'm sure there's something about that in their legalese
[22:30:48] 	 marktraceur: i don't have +2 anywhere right now, and currently the only project i'm really interested in is the core, where i don't think i could get this right
[22:31:02] 	 there are precisely 5 patchsets i submitted to other projects, and this was usually when i was asked to :)
[22:32:14] 	 sumanah: yeah, probably
[22:32:17] * MatmaRex  dives into the rules
[22:35:04] 	 eh, all i can find is the contest rules for participants
[22:35:41] 	 sumanah: I was bold now :)
[22:35:57] 	 " Me (hoo) for +2 on AbuseFilter and CentralAuth" :)
[22:37:12] 	 sumanah: pm for a minute?
[22:37:38] 	 why does gerrit keep giving random 503s?
[22:38:03] * RoanKattouw  has the same
[22:38:10] 	 MatmaRex: You should apply for +2 anyway, we're trying to be better.
[22:38:19] 	 ...and it's back
[22:38:20] 	 Worksforme
[22:38:28] 	 MatmaRex: sumanah in particular has tried to push through more requests of late
[22:39:06] 	 Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23514
[22:39:08] 	 New patchset: Adamw; "CentralNotice Banner Bucketing [FR2012 626]" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29614
[22:41:35] 	 yuvipanda: sure
[22:43:05] 	 New review: Spage; "Works for me, but only tested on Firefox." [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30131
[22:48:35] 	 Nikerabbit: Hi!
[22:51:44] 	 03(mod) Dynamic fonts support in mobile gateway - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28515  +comment (10Jon)
[22:54:28] 	 Erkkimon: and night
[22:55:13] 	 Nikerabbit: Going to sleep already? :)
[22:56:13] 	 Nikerabbit: Night!
[23:00:07] 	 03(mod) Name of delete function is incorrect - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41438  +comment (10Steven Walling)
[23:14:21] 	 New patchset: preilly; "update carrier names" [mediawiki/extensions/ZeroRatedMobileAccess] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30302
[23:14:21] 	 Change merged: preilly; [mediawiki/extensions/ZeroRatedMobileAccess] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30302
[23:14:22] 	 Am I the only one who BZ isn't loading for?
[23:14:22] 	 No.
[23:14:22] 	  PROBLEM - HTTP on kaulen is CRITICAL: CRITICAL - Socket timeout after 10 seconds
[23:14:22] 	 Kaulen is the server which hosts BZ
[23:14:22] 	 Lame.
[23:14:23] 	 It's apparently back, but I think nagios is lying
[23:23:24] 	 New patchset: Andrew Bogott; "Allow callers to force a refresh in fetchProjectInfo()." [mediawiki/extensions/OpenStackManager] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30304
[23:23:25] 	 New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "[FileBackend] Simplified FileOpBatch code to have just one "run" function." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30305
[23:25:02] * AaronSchulz  forces Reedy to cr https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/30290/
[23:25:14] * Reedy  marks it -1
[23:25:20] 	 "There must be soemthing wrong with it"
[23:26:37] 	 I'm not sure if this is related to mediawiki, but the rendering of superscript ref numbers alongside devanagari text seems to slightly increase the line height for that line as compared to a line with no subscript. This doesn't affect functionality, but is slightly annoying. e.g see http://hi.wikipedia.org/s/43g
[23:26:50] 	 or http://hi.wikipedia.org/s/2o7
[23:27:12] 	 03(FIXED) Name of delete function is incorrect - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41438  +comment (10Krenair)
[23:28:11] 	 Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30290
[23:28:31] 	 damn firebug... -.-
[23:29:29] 	 hi Sid-G 
[23:29:31] 	 It shows me an iframe containing wikidata in it's HTML syntax view :P
[23:29:36] 	 Sid-G: did you file a bug?
[23:29:45] 	 sumanah: hey. no, not yet
[23:30:31] 	 sumanah: i've been seeing it for months though. and across browsers. So I was wondering if I should get my eyes checked first ;)
[23:30:32] 	 Sid-G: Managed to verify that... it's indeed the refs
[23:30:53] 	 hoo: i'm seeing this in chrome and ff. didn't check others
[23:31:06] 	 also, enabling/disabling webfonts seems to have no effect.
[23:31:15] 	 Sid-G: they'll want to hear about it for sure
[23:31:24] * Sid-G  goes to file a bug
[23:31:53] 	 Thakns!
[23:32:45] 	 03(mod) Project creation fails to add a user to project membership, but adds them to roles - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40303  +comment (10Andrew Bogott)
[23:33:00] 	 alolita: hey, you're conducting the devcamp right?
[23:34:04] 	 hoo: this bug would be mw core? or some extension?
[23:35:02] 	 Sid-G: Extension Cite
[23:35:09] 	 hoo: k, thanks
[23:37:25] 	 03(mod) Wikidata SSL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41437   +patch-in-gerrit; +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[23:37:53] 	 03(NEW) MediaWiki's info action should include number of languages that a Wiktionary entry includes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41441 enhancement; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (b)
[23:37:53] 	 03(mod) Add ability to programmatically extract languages from a Wiktionary entry - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41440  (10MZMcBride)
[23:38:50] 	 03(mod) Add ability to programmatically extract languages from a Wiktionary entry - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41440  +comment (10MZMcBride)
[23:40:28] 	 Sid-G: sub.reference { line-height: 1; } should make it less worse
[23:40:36] 	 but it doesn't entirely fix it
[23:40:39] 	 New patchset: leucosticte; "Adding ViewFiles extension, v1.0.2." [mediawiki/extensions/ViewFiles] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28799
[23:42:03] 	 03(mod) Add editbugs user right to legitimate Bugzilla accounts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40497  +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara)
[23:42:34] 	 New review: leucosticte; "OK, everything should be fixed now. I ran a few tests and the code runs." [mediawiki/extensions/ViewFiles] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28799
[23:45:05] 	 03(NEW) Superscript reference numbers cause increase in line height with devanagari text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41442 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Cite; (Siddhartha.Ghai)
[23:46:13] 	 Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30133
[23:46:44] 	 03(mod) Hindi Wikiprojects (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41348  (10Siddhartha Ghai)
[23:46:45] 	 03(mod) Lower Diacritics of Devanagari Hidden in Page Titles and Section Headings - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30809  (10Siddhartha Ghai)
[23:46:46] 	 03(mod) Superscript reference numbers cause increase in line height with devanagari text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41442  (10Siddhartha Ghai)
[23:47:24] 	 Nikerabbit: can bug 39615 be closed?
[23:49:31] 	 hoo: that rule seems to be a major problem solver, thanks :)
[23:50:07] 	 03(mod) Superscript reference numbers cause increase in line height with devanagari text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41442  +comment (10Marius Hoch)
[23:50:18] 	 Sid-G: Commented on the bug as well ;)
[23:51:01] 	 hoo: I'm putting the line-height:1 in Common.css for now
[23:51:26] 	 03(NEW) Link in password reset is broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41443 normal; MediaWiki: Email; (swalling)
[23:51:35] 	 Sid-G: But only for now, I'm the one who cleans those stuff at the end :d
[23:51:46] 	 :D
[23:57:33] 	 03(FIXED) Mobile version does not display input forms - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38515  +comment (10Jon)
[23:59:48] 	 03(mod) Link in password reset is broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41443  normal->minor;  +i18n; +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))