[00:00:57] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "[FileBackend] Simplified code for handling "overwrite" parameter." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30732 [00:01:54] TimStarling: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/30732/ killed more code [00:02:08] * TimStarling likes less code [00:02:12] * AaronSchulz is trying to work up to the actual change he wanted to do [00:02:23] I keep noticing silly stuff on the way [00:04:13] New review: Spage; "Date needs work and Integer is more than 32 bits, but looks good." [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30316 [00:04:13] Change merged: Spage; [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30362 [00:04:17] Change merged: Spage; [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30440 [00:04:17] Change merged: Spage; [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30316 [00:04:23] TimStarling: do you have permission to remove jenkins reviews? [00:04:50] I can't even push an extension update due to that problems its having [00:05:32] New review: Reedy; "You should look at formatting your code more like https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Coding_conve..." [mediawiki/extensions/MathSearch] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30731 [00:05:34] New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Update extension EventLogging to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30733 [00:05:39] "code review is not appropriate in this early stage of development" [00:05:42] lol [00:05:50] ParserTests::testParserTest with data set #0 ('Blank input', '', '', '', '') [00:05:56] PHP_Invoker_TimeoutException: Execution aborted after 10 seconds [00:06:30] Reedy: to be fairer, I think this person needs to learn about branches [00:08:13] anybody knows where Zuul has its upstream bugtracker or homepage? [00:08:31] 03(NEW) Add wfProfileIn/wfProfileOut calls where necessary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41520 minor; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; (sam) [00:09:36] Change merged: Mwalker; [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29269 [00:10:13] Change merged: Ori.livneh; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30733 [00:13:44] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "[FileBackend] Simplified code for handling "overwrite" parameter." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30732 [00:13:52] sorry, was on the phone [00:14:12] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "Updated TimedMediaHandler to master." [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30717 [00:14:13] New patchset: Mwalker; "Adding the other MaxMind GeoLookup countries" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30640 [00:14:19] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "Updated TimedMediaHandler to master." [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf3) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30719 [00:14:27] New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Update extension EventLogging to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf3) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30734 [00:14:41] where is the extension change you're having trouble with? [00:15:00] I just rebased it...maybe that will work [00:15:39] TimStarling: you are welcomed to review that backend change in the meantime :) [00:16:13] Change merged: Adamw; [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30640 [00:16:15] usually when jenkins screws up, I try to fix it, I'm not sure if I've tried to override it before [00:17:54] New patchset: Adamw; "revert i18n damage from commit:2137fb" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30735 [00:17:56] 03(NEW) Cleanup PHP Strict issues - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41521 trivial; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; (sam) [00:18:05] Change merged: Tim Starling; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30732 [00:18:36] 03(mod) Cleanup PHP Strict issues: Static functions should not be abstract - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41521 summary (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [00:18:50] Change merged: Mwalker; [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30735 [00:19:31] do i need shell access in order to edit the footer? [00:22:19] TimStarling: nope, still failing https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/30717/ [00:22:39] hi Ringtailed-Fox [00:22:42] !sidebar [00:22:42] To edit the navigation menu on the left, edit page [[MediaWiki:Sidebar]] on your wiki using its special syntax. For more details, see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Interface/Sidebar [00:22:53] !footer [00:22:53] For changing the page footer, see the FAQ (!) . More information at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Footer and http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Skinning#Footer [00:22:56] Change merged: Tim Starling; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30717 [00:23:03] thanks [00:23:22] AaronSchulz: merged [00:23:38] I just removed jenkins from the reviewer list [00:23:40] TimStarling: I guess I can rebase then merge/verify before jenkins comes in...that would work too [00:23:51] clicked the "X" next to it [00:23:53] yeah, I don't have that X anymore [00:24:06] same with https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/30719/ [00:24:10] New patchset: Reedy; "Fix line endings to be consistent with everything else" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30736 [00:24:20] 03(NEW) Provide a log of actions which trigger the CAPTCHA - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41522 normal; MediaWiki extensions: ConfirmEdit (CAPTCHA extension); (mybugs.mail) [00:25:02] Change merged: Ori.livneh; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf3) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30734 [00:26:16] AaronSchulz: try now [00:26:29] check if there is an "X", I mean [00:26:38] Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf3) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30719 [00:26:58] I added you to the "Administrators" group [00:27:12] don't let all the power go to your head [00:27:16] ;) [00:27:48] * Isarra hugs TimStarling. [00:27:59] New review: Siebrand; "Added Raimond to let him know this happened. Usually there's a small window where i18n changes can b..." [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30735 [00:29:28] New patchset: Reedy; "Tidy up inconsistent returns" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30737 [00:31:16] New patchset: Reedy; "Tidy up inconsistent returns" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30737 [00:32:28] 03(mod) Allow AbuseFilter to force the user to solve a captcha - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/18110 (10mybugs.mail) [00:32:42] TimStarling: ok thanks [00:34:16] New patchset: Reedy; "@param $foo false or @return false isn't valid" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30738 [00:35:07] New review: Parent5446; "Replied to some comments. Can't make a new patch yet because of Hurricane Sandy. ;)" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22167 [00:41:14] New patchset: Adamw; "Prevent automated rebase" [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30739 [00:44:30] New patchset: Mwalker; "Change to make CN ContentHandler aware" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30740 [00:48:31] <[Ex0r]> is there a way I can pass a parameter to a template in the form of parameter="whaatever" and run a check to see if its present ? [00:53:54] <[Ex0r]> like, for example {Job | icon="job.jpg"} and it would add a file [00:57:20] Yaron1: hey, how are you doing? (as the storm picks up) [00:57:23] New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Add jQuery.json as a dependency" [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30742 [00:57:51] * sumanah wonders whether Aryeh is all right [00:58:00] Hi sumanah! So far so good - we've got lots of provisions so far. [00:58:04] How about you? [00:58:45] [Ex0r]: To check if a parameter is present, use {{#if:{{{paramname|}}}|stuff to do if param present|stuff to do if param not present}} [00:58:47] Currently playing a round of Koehandel. [00:58:50] Yaron: Not bad! I am not proud to say that I freaked out a little when I lost connectivity for a few minutes. However my freakout was confined to basically hitting Refresh over and over, and eating a hard-boiled egg. [00:58:59] Change merged: Ori.livneh; [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30742 [00:59:39] New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Update EventLogging to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf3) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30743 [01:00:06] That's an interesting freakout. [01:00:27] <[Ex0r]> RoanKattouw- Okay, cool. Now is there a way to set custom params, like icon="" [01:00:43] Change merged: Ori.livneh; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf3) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30743 [01:00:48] I'm not sure I understand, you can use any parameter name [01:00:55] {{mytemplate|job=foobar}} [01:01:07] Yeah, as freakouts go, I think it was well-constrained. Less self-destructive than many. [01:01:12] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "[FileBackend] Support "ignoreMissingSource" for copy and move operations." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30744 [01:01:16] Then in [[Template:Mytemplate]], you can use {{#if:{{{job|}}}|You set job to {{{job}}}|You didn't set job}} [01:01:30] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions/OAI] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30657 [01:01:54] <[Ex0r]> RoanKattouw- yes that's what I am looking for, thanks [01:02:20] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions/OAI] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30659 [01:03:30] New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Update extension EventLogging to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30745 [01:03:38] New patchset: Mdale; "adds some works around for jQuery bind trigger scope leakage" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30746 [01:06:35] Change merged: Ori.livneh; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30745 [01:12:15] New patchset: Mdale; "adds some works around for jQuery bind trigger scope leakage" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30746 [01:12:54] New patchset: Mdale; "adds some works around for jQuery bind trigger scope leakage" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30746 [01:15:27] New review: Tim Starling; ""Do you have a link to the test file you mentioned?"" [mediawiki/extensions/OggHandler] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30155 [01:15:27] Change merged: Tim Starling; [mediawiki/extensions/OggHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30155 [01:16:12] If I enable BMP upload on my wiki will I be able to thumbnail them? [01:17:28] TimStarling: change of heart? [01:19:22] ok, that's sent [01:20:37] wow, i keep hearing about people i know without power and sumanah's still sending mails ;) [01:21:06] * jeremyb still has power [01:21:48] jeremyb: maybe my virtue is protecting me! [01:21:50] and you! [01:21:56] heh [01:22:03] hehe [01:22:03] * jeremyb is catching up on scrollback [01:22:08] 03(mod) EducationProgram: Fatal "Argument passed to ContentHandler::getContentText must implement Content" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41496 (10Rob Lanphier) [01:22:09] 03(mod) Next wmf deployment (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38865 (10Rob Lanphier) [01:22:17] good to see Yaron is still on and well stocked [01:22:17] * Elecbullet is testing this  [01:22:20] oh it works [01:23:55] 03(NEW) Clicking "Disenroll" on course page produces error: "There is no course with name ..." - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41523 normal; MediaWiki extensions: EducationProgram; (ragesoss) [01:24:18] Nobody knows about BMP uploading? [01:24:40] 03(mod) EducationProgram: Fatal "Argument passed to ContentHandler::getContentText must implement Content" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41496 +comment (10Rob Lanphier) [01:24:45] why would you need to upload a BMP? [01:24:54] use a lossless compression format such as PNG [01:25:12] I realize the limitations but I thought it would be good to have animated sprites for my wiki [01:25:26] and then link them back to the BMP versions that are the original 64x64 sprites [01:25:44] The actual ones I would usually use would be GIF/PNG [01:25:57] modified for transparency, scaled, etc [01:26:00] you realize there is no difference in image quality between PNG and BMP (hence why it is called "lossless" compression) [01:26:07] I realize that. [01:26:07] just BMP is 10 times the filesize [01:26:10] I realize that. [01:26:14] oooookay [01:26:24] But I wanted to stay true enough to the original file. [01:26:26] * Skizzerz is confused as to your motivations then [01:26:31] New patchset: Adamw; "DO NOT MERGE - 2-round-trip banner load" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29527 [01:26:42] * Elecbullet can enable upload (probably) but doesn't know if it will produce a usable file [01:26:51] it'll be "usable" [01:27:00] in that your browser would take forever to render it [01:27:21] 64x64 wouldn't be that bad, but for large sizes the render speed is noticeably slower [01:27:21] It's 64x64 mate that wouldn't even break tialup [01:27:36] This is Wolfenstein 3D. Wolfenstein 3D. I ain't making anything bigger than 64x64 [01:28:05] [[file:Sprite-1.bmp|thumb|right|A sprite]] [01:28:06] Would that work? [01:28:14] That is the ultimate question [01:28:15] it should [01:28:21] eh okay [01:28:43] I shall become the ultimate resource on the Wolfenstein series. [01:28:48] Thank you [01:32:59] 03(mod) EducationProgram: Fatal "Argument passed to ContentHandler::getContentText must implement Content" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41496 +comment (10Sage Ross) [01:37:13] TyA! [01:37:19] Hey! [01:37:35] New patchset: Catrope; "Add InspectorFactory to tests" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30748 [01:37:48] New review: Alex Monk; "I'll +2 and submit this when I82440eb4 has gone into core, assuming someone else doesn't do it first." [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master); V: 1 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15959 [01:40:28] New patchset: Catrope; "Fix ve.batchSplice() to behave in line with docs" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30749 [01:42:26] AaronSchulz: well, it was better than what was there [01:42:49] heh [01:43:05] I was just concerned that if Jan was working on it, that meant they were planning on migrating from oggThumb to ffmpeg [01:43:17] and breaking those test files in the process [01:44:21] but he seems to care about it, so I'll leave it up to his judgement [01:48:55] 03(mod) Don't retrieve edit token (or any other type of tokens) on article view - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41519 +comment (10Jon) [01:50:26] 03(NEW) Use wikisets for opt-in and opt-out for global filters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41524 normal; MediaWiki extensions: AbuseFilter; (jasper) [01:51:59] TimStarling: any comments on ^ ? [01:58:44] it looks fine [02:12:09] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "[FileRepo] Changed "publishBatch" to handle failure better." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30750 [02:15:19] 03(NEW) [patch] PdfExport - Croatian translation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41525 enhancement; MediaWiki extensions: [other]; (adundovi) [02:21:09] 03(NEW) Disable Contest extension on mediawiki.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41526 normal; Wikimedia: Site configuration; (erik) [02:25:28] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Pawn ♙ appears after delecting list and moving cursor - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41067 +comment (10Nicolas Raoul) [02:30:50] 03(NEW) VisualEditor: In bullet list, SHIFT-LEFT selection reseted when reaching deeper item - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41527 normal; VisualEditor: ContentEditable; (nicolas.raoul) [02:31:57] New review: Liangent; "If I read it correctly, this still break the ability of callers of Revision::getText() to get false." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30624 [02:35:04] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Cursor appears misplaced after adding item to list - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41064 +comment (10Nicolas Raoul) [02:43:54] I'm doing a 1.16 to 1.19 upgrade and am having an error for needing to update my database [02:44:08] yet I ran update.php from the CLI on the server, it reported the tables updated [02:44:16] error: http://wiki.ovirt.org/wiki/ [02:44:52] my config file: http://fpaste.org/5Ws0/ [02:45:36] New patchset: Catrope; "Fix copyObject/copyArray behavior with null values" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30751 [02:49:24] let's see ... I also set $wgShowExceptionDetails = true; but I don't know where the output goes [02:49:45] I also have $wgReadOnly set, which shouldn't affect anything like this [02:50:14] now, I could go back to the backup of the database and rerun the update [02:50:29] but I hope to push ahead [02:56:24] I did hit that page that way _before_ I ran update.php, could [[Main page]] have tried to write to the database? [02:57:54] 03(ASSIGNED) VisualEditor: In bullet list, SHIFT-LEFT selection reseted when reaching deeper item - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41527 +comment (10James Forrester) [03:04:23] ah, some backtrace when trying the update.php again [03:04:27] http://fpaste.org/rOSV/ [03:09:09] * Brooke peeks. [03:09:52] quaid: You're missing ipblocks? [03:09:55] And... [03:10:13] That seems very suspicious. [03:10:20] You're updating a MediaWiki installation? [03:11:59] yes [03:12:02] 1.16 to 1.19 [03:12:15] ipblocks has been around for forever. [03:12:21] Did you move hosts? [03:12:29] Brooke: the ipblocks missing error was there from the first time I ran update.php [03:12:32] nope, same host [03:12:43] (I'm planning a host move, but wanted to get to 1.19 first) [03:12:55] I don't think you were getting by with 1.16 with no ipblocks table. [03:12:57] Something seems amiss. [03:13:10] interesting [03:13:51] ipblocks has existed since MediaWiki 1.5, at least. That's... eleven versions before 1.16? [03:14:10] So maybe permissions. [03:14:20] I had 1.16 running in parallel, and it was reading this database successful _after_ i ran update.php [03:14:20] Or maybe you're hitting the wrong DB. [03:14:21] should have happen? [03:14:35] * quaid checks his db names [03:14:48] Is 1.16 still working? [03:15:03] I changed the Apache configs, but it was working before I changed the configs [03:15:06] so I'd say, "yes" [03:15:22] If you log in via the mysql command line, do you see the ipblocks table? [03:15:26] should 1.16 be able to read 1.19 database tables correctly? [03:15:36] The database schema updates are usually backward compatible. MediaWiki can safely ignore new indices and new columns and such. [03:15:52] (So yes.) [03:15:59] I'm more out of my depth at the mysql> line, how do I see the ipblocks table? [03:16:06] show tables; [03:16:27] Assuming you've logged in correctly to the command line and have specified the appropriate database. [03:16:31] Usually it's something like... [03:16:41] $ mysql -hlocalhost -p [03:16:43] [password] [03:16:55] mysql> use databasenamehere; [03:16:59] mysql> show tables; [03:17:05] 03(mod) Project namespace (i.e. "Wikipedia")'s transliteration done wrong - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41350 summary (10tari buttar) [03:17:52] ok, got the tables list in the correct db [03:18:06] Do you see ipblocks? [03:18:07] I see mw_ipblocks [03:18:09] Oh. [03:18:11] oh, mw_ [03:18:21] There you go. [03:18:25] You're missing a specified datbaase table prefix somewhere. [03:18:27] i set that in LocalSettings.php? [03:18:30] Maybe in LocalSettings.php. [03:18:31] * quaid looks [03:18:44] database * [03:19:03] It's something like $wgDbPrefix or something. [03:19:49] 03(mod) Project namespace's (i.e. "Wikipedia") transliteration done wrong - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41350 summary (10tari buttar) [03:20:17] yeah, that's it, I found where I missed it from the 1.16 config file [03:21:07] Brooke: interestingly I have a new error [03:21:12] http://wiki.ovirt.org/wiki/ [03:21:46] quaid: Well, yeah. You still gotta run update.php successfully. [03:21:48] maybe I need to rerun the update.php now that LocalSettings.php is configured right [03:21:54] :-) [03:21:54] heh, thanks :) [03:22:27] ah, now it's doing lots of things, much more interesting output [03:22:44] For obscure definitions of interesting. [03:22:55] Brooke: beautiful! it's working [03:22:59] \o/ [03:23:05] (theme is broken but I expected that) [03:23:25] yeah, I have a geeky definition of interesting I suppose [03:23:50] Looks like CSS is missing or something. [03:23:52] dneary: we're in, you can start to think about your ConfirmAccount patch now :) [03:28:34] Brooke: thx btw, not only helpful but informative - learning more about my database, etc. :) [03:28:58] * quaid can see Apache is serving the /w/skins/monobook/ directory so that's not it [03:30:22] New review: leucosticte; "Sorry about the trailing whitespace; I've now set Komodo Edit's save options to "clean trailing whit..." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30431 [03:33:50] No problem. Glad I could help. [03:34:18] quaid: There's this MediaWiki feature called ResourceLoader that came with 1.18 or 1.19. [03:34:22] 1.17 [03:34:23] Usually when skins are fucked after an upgrade, it's ResourceLoader-related. [03:34:27] Or 1.17, heh. [03:34:35] Anyway, make sure you can reach /w/load.php. [03:34:54] 03(FIXED) Indexing on private wikis seems to have halted - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40846 +comment (10billinghurst) [03:35:48] Brooke: yes, I think that's it - Apache is saying it can't find /w/load.php [03:37:16] * quaid sees the package doesn't have it symlinked correctly [03:41:12] Brooke: got it - I had a symlink in the Apache path that still pointed to 1.16 [03:41:44] http://wiki.ovirt.org/wiki/Main_Page looks better. [03:41:49] Logo's still missing. [03:41:55] style="background-image: url();" [03:41:57] Weird. [03:42:04] Did you set $wgLogo to something funky? [03:42:17] the style before was a hack of using a background image that had the logo embedded [03:42:27] then I set the $wglogo=" "; (blank) [03:42:37] Yeah... don't do that. [03:42:46] oh, bad hack? [03:42:46] Upload your logo to the wiki. [03:42:52] That'll give you revision control of it. [03:42:59] And keep it centralized and such. [03:42:59] right [03:43:07] Then set $wgLogo to the appropriate file path location. [03:43:16] $wgLogo = '/w/images/...'; [03:43:29] I'll get it going again to work correctly, but this is all in preparation for going to Garrett's fancy new skin [03:43:45] You may be able to get the /w/images/ part from another $wg variable if you're feeling crazy. [03:43:55] Garrett? [03:44:05] http://mediawiki-garrett.rhcloud.com/index.php/Main_Page [03:44:23] * quaid thinks that is a working instance of the new theme [03:44:27] Oh, pretty. [03:45:00] Brooke: yeah, Garrett wrote the theme in a generic way so it's useful for others, then did the oVirt final theme as a thin layer on top [03:45:28] The skins system in MediaWiki sucks pretty hard. [03:45:36] But whenever possible, try to keep CSS on the wiki. [03:45:56] Revision control is a beautiful thing. [03:46:02] And it makes upgrades easier. [03:46:12] that's a nice idea, yeah [03:46:17] Some of the CSS won't be able to be on the wiki, though. [03:46:32] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.css <-- Example. [03:46:40] And there are skin-specific equivalents. For example, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Monobook.css [03:46:55] And equivalent pages for JavaScript (Common.js, Monobook.js, etc.). [03:49:34] Anyway, unless you plan to completely disable the other skins, you should fix $wgLogo at some point. [03:49:39] Individual users may specify Monobook or Vector or whatever. [03:49:42] In their user preeferences. [03:49:53] ah, good point, I forgot about user pref skins [03:50:21] http://wiki.ovirt.org/wiki/Main_Page?useskin=vector [03:50:27] It can also be specified like that. [03:50:36] btw, I just restored the look from before with the blank logo & background image with header embedded [03:50:50] which is a worse hack than I realized :) [03:51:54] Yeah. If you're gonna use Monobook. just make your changes to the page "MediaWiki:Monobook.css". [03:52:02] Then you won't lose your changes post-upgrade. [03:52:12] Errant period. [04:54:07] New patchset: Spage; "Restore benefits CSS, tooltips for error messages" [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30752 [04:56:01] New review: Spage; "Separate review for clarity. Munaf, is tipsy.png needed?" [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master); V: 1 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30752 [05:01:32] 03(mod) Errors uploading avatars: Call to undefined function imagecreatefrompng() - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41485 +comment (10Tim) [05:06:44] New patchset: Amire80; "(bug 39560) Bring fix from upstream" [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30753 [05:26:59] 03(mod) Errors uploading avatars: Call to undefined function imagecreatefrompng() - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41485 +comment (10Tim) [05:27:57] Losing access to the cloud due to whether conditions, isn't funny. [05:28:02] weather* [05:35:06] New patchset: Santhosh; "Update jquery.ime from upstream" [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30754 [05:46:38] New patchset: Spage; "Add interactive validation of form fields" [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30755 [05:56:07] New patchset: Amire80; "(bug 31816) Try to improve the wording of gender option" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30756 [05:59:39] New review: Kaldari; "Thanks for all the help reviewing!" [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15959 [06:02:46] 03(mod) Improve the wording of gender selection option - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31816 +patch-in-gerrit; +comment (10Amir E. Aharoni) [06:04:56] New patchset: Santhosh; "Add a more settings link instead of the help link" [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30565 [06:07:30] New review: Santhosh; "Addressed Amir comments" [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30565 [06:23:17] Hey. [06:23:31] i tried to upload a file to my wiki the same way i used to do before. [06:23:34] i get the following error : Could not create directory "mwstore://local-backend/local-public/a/a1". [06:23:41] I havent changed anything. [06:26:24] Hello ? has anyone got the Could not create directory "mwstore://local-backend/local-public/a/a1" error while uploading a file to their wiki? [06:28:10] eagle_: I'm not an expert, but I'm going to assume it's a permissions deal. Mediawiki needs write permission too certain directories... [06:28:50] 03(NEW) Thumbnails not displayed for local videos on test2wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41528 normal; MediaWiki extensions: TimedMediaHandler; (robla) [06:28:57] Yea i thought the same. but i have uploaded files before and it worked? i dont think i changed permissions [06:29:40] eagle_: Huh... that's odd. Maybe your web host did something? (mine occasionally re-sets permissions...), so it might be worth checking out. [06:32:43] eagle_: This might help, too: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Thread:Project:Support_desk/Trouble_uploading_after_installation [06:34:05] 03(mod) Review and deploy TimedMediaHandler extension (timed media handler) to Wikimedia wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27699 +comment (10Rob Lanphier) [06:34:07] 03(mod) Thumbnails not displayed for local videos on test2wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41528 (10Rob Lanphier) [06:38:17] Thanks Matthew [06:38:31] eagle_: Sure, glad I could help! [06:38:32] Change merged: Cmcmahon; [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30578 [06:38:32] Change merged: Cmcmahon; [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30598 [06:38:32] Change merged: Zfilipin; [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30577 [06:39:42] 03(mod) Core tests die with fatal error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41491 +comment (10Niklas Laxström) [06:44:01] 03(mod) Additional p-elements injected in refs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41243 (10jeblad) [06:44:07] 03(mod) ref might add a newline - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/13073 (10jeblad) [06:50:30] 03(NEW) Special page and/or parser function to check quotations from references - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41529 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; (jeblad) [06:51:55] 03(mod) Hard to tell whether an item has any content. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41495 +comment (10Nikola Smolenski) [06:55:20] What does 'Refreshing links table.' mean when running rebuildall.php? [07:02:34] Isarra: looks like fixing redirects, as well as the stuff mentioned here: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/RefreshLinks.php [07:03:01] So if it dies horribly, should I be concerned? [07:04:10] * Isarra huggles leucosticte. [07:05:53] Isarra: Is that the Urban Dictionary kind of huggle or the Wikipedia kind? Anyway, I think I had refreshLinks die a few times and nothing seemed to be permanently damaged. I eventually got it to complete after running it a few times. [07:06:30] Dude. [07:06:43] So this thing... it... it's a wiki. [07:06:49] * Isarra gapes at it and passes out. [07:07:22] (And that was the sort of huggle in which I go through your pockets and shuffle things around just to confuse you.) [07:09:15] Isarra: did it say which table it died refreshing? [07:09:30] oh, nm, links table [07:13:29] Whoo! [07:14:42] so, it's running LinksUpdate for all links from the various page_ids... looking at the source, nothing strikes me right of the bat as the sort of thing that would cause problems if it died in middle, and many people have had it die on them, I'm sure [07:15:23] Well, this database is kind of... patchy. [07:15:41] and it did say you could abort safely with ctrl-C... [07:15:45] It's only been moved (and not terribly well)... maybe five times already? [07:16:19] [07:16:34] * gwicke is about to fall asleep [07:16:52] Any idea what this means? "Call to a member function getNamespace() on a non-object in /var/www/mediawiki/extensions/DynamicPageList/DPLMain.php" [07:17:03] Oh. Well gwicke: consider testing using en.WT. More challenging. [07:17:04] (PHP Fatal error) [07:17:30] Crap, maybe I messed up the namespaces. [07:17:38] Isarra: It means you're using DynamicPageList (third party). Don't do that. [07:17:44] Amgine: ok, can easily do that [07:17:46] Amgine: I must. [07:17:51] Amgine: any pages in particular? [07:18:07] I must also use an unsecure version of RSS because the current one is exceedingly dumb. [07:18:11] gwicke: [[wikt:water]] [07:18:17] Isarra: Yeah, that can certainly do a number on a database... or at least, the one that I moved and then kept trying to import until it seemed like it functioning okay, turned out to have a lot of problems, e.g. this kind of stuff: http://libertapedia.org/wiki/Classical_liberal [07:18:25] Not that the unsecure isn't also exceedingly dumb, but at least it renders... [07:18:43] Blarg. [07:18:58] Amgine: ok. noted for tomorrow [07:19:35] I got DPL (3rd party) to work okay [07:20:04] It works fine until it explodes, but then again these folks can make anything explode. [07:20:08] They're like wikipedians but CRAZIER. [07:20:18] And also more incompetent. [07:20:39] who, your wiki users? [07:20:46] Aye. [07:21:02] Crazy! [07:24:56] By the way -- that link I shared above, with the error "The database did not find the text of a page that it should have found" -- does that probably indicate that the most recent revision didn't get imported? [07:25:37] It may mean it got imported with the wrong namespace number or something. [07:25:59] which would be strange, since it's namespace 0. [07:26:00] We also got some weird stuff like that when interwikis were created over a namespace once. [07:26:06] Hmm. [07:26:13] Kill it with fire! [07:26:17] Solves everything. >.> [07:26:28] but there seem to be a large percentage of the pages that are that way. [07:26:42] Oh. [07:26:48] hello [07:26:57] i can just retry the import, i guess [07:26:57] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30753 [07:27:29] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30754 [07:27:31] Damn, never have I see a list of namespaces so exactly identical. [07:27:47] seen [07:27:52] Then again, for all I know, the thing was already broken and I imported a broken page... [07:27:55] 03(mod) Special page and/or parser function to check quotations from references - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41529 +comment (10Nikola Smolenski) [07:28:09] if memory serves, i didn't bother to import from the command prompt, i just kept attempting to import from phpMyAdmin until the wiki became functional, and then I called it a day [07:28:20] Ach. [07:28:50] hmm, i wonder what would happen if I tried the import again now that there are some more revisions that have been made [07:29:12] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30565 [07:29:30] How was it exported? [07:30:07] probably phpmyadmin, as a tar.gz, or maybe just a gz [07:30:41] Huh. [07:32:05] actually, now that I think about it, I think my last copy of that export was on the external hard drive that I accidentally knocked off the desk, and that no longer works [07:32:23] 03(NEW) setup redis on beta - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41530 normal; Wikimedia Labs: deployment-prep (beta); (hashar) [07:33:22] they always warn that those external drives are not to be considered as portable drives that can withstand such sudden changes in velocity [07:34:46] Think it would work to get the refreshlinks to tell me where it's failing and then just try to kill whatever it is? [07:36:07] you mean, tell you what page it's failing on, or what query, or... [07:36:14] Uh... yes! [07:36:21] I guess. [07:36:22] This code is complicated. [07:37:04] do you have to refresh the links in order to get your wiki to work properly? [07:37:17] I have no idea. [07:37:23] But I will feel much better if it works! [07:37:50] what were its last words before its untimely demise? [07:37:54] 03(mod) in languages where the "User:" space has more than one gender flavor, autocomplete suggests pages from user space even before user types ":" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31697 +comment (10Siebrand) [07:38:41] or rather, at its dying breath [07:38:41] One of the last page ids. [07:38:51] Then php fatal error! [07:39:01] But that was in the dpl. [07:39:10] So there is clearly... something at hand! [07:39:28] so you ran into a dpl-related error in refreshlinks? [07:39:41] Apparently. [07:40:00] Now the easy solution would be to turn off dpl, but... but then there'd be no dpl! [07:40:07] why not just comment out the dpl require_once in localsettings, run refreshlinks, then re-enable dpl? [07:40:24] Because then the dpl-related links wouldn't be refreshed! [07:40:30] And now I have a page id. 5621! [07:43:11] You know... looking at the wrong database doesn't really help. [07:44:09] i hate when that happens. well, it's hard to tell how far this rabbit hole of troubleshooting might lead, especially from this distant view of it. i regret that no obvious answers occur to me [07:45:41] There are always answers. [07:46:01] 03(FIXED) [[MediaWiki:Emailuser]] needs GENDER - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32237 +comment (10Amir E. Aharoni) [07:46:01] Sometimes they even involve chainsaws. Who cares if they're obvious? [07:46:04] Chainsaws! [07:47:42] And I think I found the problem! [07:47:54] An interwiki was covering a namespace. [07:48:08] Why is it always the interwikis? [07:48:59] they are troublesome, aren't they? i don't particularly like the fact that there's a colon involved in both namespace and interwiki links, not to mention some mainspace articles [07:50:34] Aye... [07:50:46] And storing things as blobs is annoying. Grr. [07:50:59] however, i haven't figured out a better system. maybe there should have been some other characters reserved for that. [07:51:15] oh yes, that too [07:53:17] we could make a horror/sci-fi film about that particular type of binary object [07:54:25] oh wait, i see that someone already did that, back in 1958 [07:59:34] Oh, joy, the entire table is broken. [07:59:45] 03(mod) Blank messages via Mobile Feedback should not be sent - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41502 +comment (10Oliver Keyes) [08:07:12] New review: Nemo bis; "I've commented on the bug. Some typos in qqq." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30756 [08:07:33] 03(mod) Improve the wording of gender selection option - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31816 +comment (10Nemo_bis) [08:08:16] New review: Nikerabbit; "I don't think this will fix the problem, not fully anyway. We have separate clones for reading and w..." [translatewiki] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30739 [08:10:56] Looks like Amgine was right. DPL is broken. >.< [08:16:45] you mean your dpl installation or dpl (3rd party) in general? there are some big sites that use it [08:17:08] Don't. [08:17:27] It in general. It's probably in combination with something else here, but... egh. [08:17:56] For some reason included category links were replaced with interwikis. [08:18:05] It has not been supported for years, has a series of massive security risks, and while it does some sexy things it usually does them badly. [08:18:19] Sounds like this wiki in general. [08:19:36] which DPL is broken? the third party or wikimedia's? [08:19:43] 3rd party [08:19:53] what about that note at the top of the extension page that says that everything is cool with it now? https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:DynamicPageList_%28third-party%29 [08:20:03] It could also be mw1.20, the interwiki table here, or something else entirely! [08:20:17] I mean, who the hell starts an interwiki with a question mark? O_o [08:21:07] a wiki I help admin uses it extensively, so if there is a security issue with it, that would be very bad [08:22:13] It's probably fine in regards to that, it's just confusing and weird and aaaaagh. [08:23:22] I don't think anyone but the updater has reviewed the security. [08:24:27] hmm [08:24:37] for what we use it for, could probably just roll our own thing [08:24:47] did you confirm there is a security issue with it? [08:25:16] and if so, what type of attack vector is it (not asking for specifics on how to exploit, just want to know if one exists and what the implications are) [08:25:32] You mean Bawolff's insertion vulnerability? [08:26:02] was that with the most recent version? [08:26:27] I suppose I should be asking Bawolff [08:26:31] [08:26:58] I don't think xe was doing a full security survey, just noticed that one. [08:27:37] yeah [08:28:23] why not just fix it and distribute the patch? [08:28:40] I'd assume he reported it to the developers [08:29:23] the download is from a third-party site so distributing the patch is trickier (unless that recently changed) [08:29:45] ^demon says it's now in gerrit. [08:30:02] It is. [08:30:07] At least, that was where I got it. [08:30:42] the third party site still is offering its own zip for download though [08:31:10] Mmm, and has different dates. [08:31:41] Bawolff updated gerrit Aug. 23. [08:31:58] New review: Hydriz; "Its using only one letter as that is what is currently supported by the Wikimedia Incubator (we like..." [mediawiki/extensions/SiteMatrix] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28241 [08:32:42] 03(NEW) Sometimes wikisyntax for lists is interpreted inside 
 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41531 normal; MediaWiki: Parser; (listenleser)
[08:33:17] 	 And the update to 2.0.1 does not seem to address the .txt insertion vulnerability, if we trust the third-party site description.
[08:34:38] 	 so the vuln found allows for inserting .txt (or possibly arbitrary extension) files in the server?
[08:34:59] 	 and executing them, depending on the apache setup.
[08:35:04] 	 hmm
[08:35:26] 	 "*Doesn't adequately check the dplcache parameter. This allows user to overwrite certain files in the filesystem (if they end in .txt), and possibly display the contents of certain files. In the worst case, if apache is configured to support scripting languages using the AddHandler directive, this allows arbitrary code to be executed on the server"
[08:36:01] 	 this was fixed in git master?
[08:36:09] 	 I doubt it.
[08:36:23] 	 But you could see what Bawolff did there, just to be sure.
[08:37:20] 	 fixing that particular issue seems easy
[08:37:35] 	 but there may be other issues
[08:38:31] 	 The problem is: bawolff is too conscientious a student, and has wisely avoided getting sucked into MW volunteerism.
[08:38:37] 	 heh
[08:38:59] 	 I'd fix it myself, but the dpl code is mess from what I can recall
[08:39:22] 	 it has about 50,000 different config settings
[08:39:35] 	 i started to document some of them
[08:39:41] 	 Yah, DPL (wm) works fine. It just doesn't do all the stuff DPL (3rd) does.
[08:39:49] 	 for what we use it for, it'd be easier to simply add the functionality we use to DPL (wm)
[08:40:25] 	 
[08:40:38] 	 which is including a template parameter from the target page on the output
[08:40:39] 	 :P
[08:40:57] 	 I don't think that'd go over well in the wm version since that code would be icky as hell
[08:41:15] 	 heh. Oh, and bawolff created a parserhook extension too.
[08:43:03] 	 oh, and custom output formats, need those too
[08:44:40] 	 !e PageInCat
[08:44:41] 	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:PageInCat
[08:45:14] 	 03(mod) Steward, global sysop and SWMT tasks bugs (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41492  (10Nemo_bis)
[08:45:14] 	 03(mod) [Spam/vandalism] Raise $wgAutoblockExpiry noticeably - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41479  (10Nemo_bis)
[08:46:32] 	 so, create an extension extending the extension's functionality?
[08:46:47] 	 basically, http://strategywiki.org/w/index.php?title=Template:System&action=edit is what I need to replicate
[08:47:15] 	 No, submit a patch to DPL (wm).
[08:47:15] 	 
[08:48:56] 	 Mmm, that's beyond my knowledge of DPL (3rd)
[08:49:10] 	 What does it do?
[08:49:22] 	 *which* DPL :)
[08:49:23] 	 http://strategywiki.org/wiki/Category:Nintendo_64 - generates that "Popular guides" listing
[08:49:38] 	 
[08:49:38] 	 mostly the code is to include the completion stage image
[08:50:06] 	 Skizzerz: then you could build the template using PageInCat
[08:50:47] 	 (which would also be a lot lighter on the parser)
[08:51:07] 	 don't see how
[08:51:30] 	 It was specifically developed to use less expensive parser functions.
[08:51:53] 	 I can see how I could get the completion stage image, but not how to apply that to the list of guides
[08:52:05] 	 since that list is generated by the top 10 most viewed pages in that cat
[08:52:35] 	 so I could use DPL (wm) to get the list, but that doesn't have custom output formats so I can't apply the category parser function to it
[08:52:49] 	 
[08:53:17] 	 I also wonder what bawolff meant in that note for categorytests in see other
[08:53:31] 	 I can't think of a way to do that dynamically without extending DPL.
[08:54:00] 	 exactly
[08:54:11] 	 hence why I think I'll try to extend DPL (wm) :P
[08:54:23] 	 easier than coding a new thing from scratch
[08:54:49] 	  
[08:55:21] 	 ah, PageInCat does hacky stuff to apply it correctly to the page preview
[08:55:31] 	 whereas CategoryTests doesn't
[08:55:45] 	 that's the only difference I can see though
[08:56:13] 	 Should invalidate cache, too? so the current version displays the current revision.
[08:58:07] 	 don't see why, categories can't change without invalidating the page cache anyway
[08:58:22] 	 Hey! Isn't the Math extension compatible with MediaWiki 1.19 anymore? I can't make it work with my 1.19.2. I've read the discussion page on mediawiki.org, but it didn't make much sense to me.
[08:58:38] 	 to change a cat you either need to edit the page (invalidates cache) or edit a template the page transcludes (adds cache invalidation to job queue)
[08:58:56] 	 Math should work with 1.19
[08:59:03] 	 what is the specific issue you are running into?
[08:59:13] 	 is it just me, or is it pretty hard to figure out from these phpunit failure messages what the problem is?
[08:59:55] 	 'what' or 'where', leucosticte?
[09:00:44] 	 a little of both, really. the two kinda go hand-in-hand.
[09:00:53] 	 skizzerz, Well, I keep getting "Fatal error: Call to undefined method TempFSFile::autocollect() in /var/www/html/t/extensions/Math/Math.body.php on line 129"
[09:00:59] 	 did you download the version of Math for 1.19?
[09:01:01] 	 Well, the message should help you find where it's failing; I haven't actually looked at much of MW's tests.
[09:02:37] 	  The only person I know has nothing to do with them.
[09:02:59] 	 Skizzerz, I believe I did. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Math says among other things it is incompatible with 1.19.1
[09:03:55] 	 did you click the download snapshot link and select 1.19.x from the dropdown?
[09:04:27] 	 leucosticte, what error are you getting?
[09:05:22] 	 yeah, i know the failure is in SQLite somewhere. well, guess it's time to create a MW installation that uses SQLite and play around with some queries, because i got lost trying to follow the stack trace and figure out what was going on. it's saying "Uninitialized string offset: 0" It wouldn't surprise me if there's a problem in my query, I have no experience with SQLite and didn't test that part of the code.
[09:05:48] 	 oh, the error was in "1) DatabaseSqliteTest::testUpgrades"
[09:06:49] 	 Skizzerz, no. The extension page says it may be unstable, therefore I downloaded a snapshot from git, which is said to be stable. Also, ExtensionDistributor has been down for some time, and I've actually lost a hope to ever be able to use it again, but now it seems to be working. I am trying it now.
[09:07:03] 	 oh right
[09:07:06] 	 forgot that broke with git
[09:07:08] 	 >_>
[09:07:33] 	 this is what I get for trying to help at 4am :P
[09:08:10] 	 normally i don't check in untested code, but i didn't even know about phpunit until jenkins brought it to my attention
[09:08:39] 	 oh, here it is: https://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/MediaWiki-Tests-Misc/lastCompletedBuild/testReport/%28root%29/DatabaseSqliteTest/testUpgrades/
[09:09:10] 	 anyway, i'll keep playing around, i'm not really stuck yet, i just haven't started hacking away in earnest yet
[09:12:04] 	 Hallo. Is mwEmbed still used by Wikimedia anywhere? I'm not quite following the news about these components.
[09:16:13] 	 03(mod) WebFont is not applied on Apply Cancel buttons in Display settings - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40873  +comment (10Amir E. Aharoni)
[09:17:41] 	 03(mod) WebFont is not applied on Apply Cancel buttons in Display settings - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40873  +comment (10Amir E. Aharoni)
[09:21:05] 	 New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "[FileBackend] Made path normalization in FileOp more robust." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30761
[09:26:41] 	 Skizzerz, what do you mean by "broke with git"?
[09:28:25] 	 03(NEW) Make OAI aware of ContentHandler - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41532 normal; MediaWiki extensions: OAI; (daniel.kinzler)
[09:28:54] 	 03(mod) Make OAI aware of ContentHandler - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41532   +wikidata (10Daniel Kinzler)
[09:29:13] 	 New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "[FileBackend] Use the new CloudFiles metadata functions." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29423
[09:29:17] 	 03(mod) Make OAI aware of ContentHandler - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41532  (10Daniel Kinzler)
[09:29:22] 	 03(mod) Search in Wikidata - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36423  (10Daniel Kinzler)
[09:30:10] 	 03(mod) Make OAI aware of ContentHandler - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41532  +comment (10Daniel Kinzler)
[09:32:34] 	 03(mod) Search in Wikidata - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36423  +comment (10Daniel Kinzler)
[09:32:50] 	 03(ASSIGNED) Make OAI aware of ContentHandler - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41532  (10Daniel Kinzler)
[09:36:34] 	 03(mod) Make OAI aware of ContentHandler - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41532  +comment (10Daniel Kinzler)
[09:37:02] 	 New review: Daniel Kinzler; "needs some refactoring and perhaps tests" [mediawiki/extensions/OAI] (master); V: 0 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30722
[09:38:45] 	 New review: Daniel Kinzler; "@hashar please tell me how!" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29973
[09:38:50] 	 03(mod) Update Amharic mapping - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40282  (10Nemo_bis)
[09:38:51] 	 03(mod) Enable Narayam on am.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41460  (10Nemo_bis)
[09:41:41] 	 03(mod) Core tests die with fatal error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41491  (10Aude)
[09:41:52] 	 03(NEW) Input method window is transparent - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41533 normal; MediaWiki extensions: UniversalLanguageSelector; (raimond.spekking)
[09:42:33] 	 03(mod) Core tests die with fatal error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41491  +comment (10Aude)
[09:45:58] 	 03(mod) Unicode characters in aren't blocked by spam blacklist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34491  (10billinghurst)
[09:45:59] 	 03(mod) Steward, global sysop and SWMT tasks bugs (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41492  (10billinghurst)
[09:47:17] 	 03(mod) Convert to protocol relative link — report line in Special:GlobalBlockList - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36145  (10billinghurst)
[09:47:21] 	 03(mod) Steward, global sysop and SWMT tasks bugs (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41492  (10billinghurst)
[09:47:43] 	 03(mod) Exit page from https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:GlobalBlock - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36834  (10billinghurst)
[09:47:45] 	 03(mod) Steward, global sysop and SWMT tasks bugs (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41492  (10billinghurst)
[09:48:46] 	 03(mod) Steward, global sysop and SWMT tasks bugs (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41492  (10billinghurst)
[09:49:09] 	 03(mod) Leading space within [[ http://...]] gives redlink and avoids blacklist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35404  (10billinghurst)
[09:49:14] 	 03(mod) Steward, global sysop and SWMT tasks bugs (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41492  (10billinghurst)
[09:50:16] 	 New patchset: Nemo bis; "(bug 41460) Enable Narayam on am.wikipedia" [mediawiki/extensions/Narayam] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30763
[09:51:32] 	 03(mod) Additional data field: account name in Global user info (centralauth-admin-info) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36015  +comment (10billinghurst)
[09:51:32] 	 03(mod) Steward, global sysop and SWMT tasks bugs (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41492  (10billinghurst)
[09:52:02] 	 03(mod) Steward, global sysop and SWMT tasks bugs (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41492  (10billinghurst)
[09:53:03] 	 Change merged: Amire80; [mediawiki/extensions/Narayam] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30763
[09:56:11] 	 New patchset: Zfilipin; "Jenkins has a new home." [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30764
[09:56:25] 	 New patchset: Amire80; "(bug 41359) add Amiri for ar, too" [mediawiki/extensions/WebFonts] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30765
[09:58:56] 	 03(FIXED) Enable Narayam and Webfonts extensions on "mr" projects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39200  +comment (10Niklas Laxström)
[09:59:30] 	 New patchset: Nikerabbit; "Pull in https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30432" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30766
[10:00:37] 	 03(VERIFIED) Enable Narayam and Webfonts extensions on "mr" projects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39200  (10Nemo_bis)
[10:03:30] 	 Change merged: Nikerabbit; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30766
[10:05:20] 	 03(mod) Choosing an expiry from the dropdown should hide the other expiry textbox - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/18412  normal->15enhancement; +comment (10Nemo_bis)
[10:05:34] 	 03(mod) Choosing an expiry from the dropdown should hide the other expiry textbox - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/18412  (10Nemo_bis)
[10:10:14] 	 03(FIXED) Enable Narayam on am.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41460  (10Niklas Laxström)
[10:11:05] 	 03(FIXED) Enable WebFonts for the Arabic projects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41359  +comment (10Niklas Laxström)
[10:12:01] 	 New code comment: Nikerabbit; Why don't you reuse WebRequest::getAcceptLang from MW?; 
[10:13:25] 	 New review: Hashar; "Please note the loginend id is used in skins/monobook/main.css :" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30636
[10:13:54] 	 New review: Nikerabbit; "Wouldn't radio buttons be better?" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30756
[10:15:50] 	 New patchset: Hashar; "(bug 40574) hints for generatexml param in api modules" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27886
[10:16:05] 	 New patchset: Hashar; "(bug 40574) hints for generatexml param in api modules" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27886
[10:17:09] 	 New patchset: Santhosh; "i18n for input method settings" [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30767
[10:18:26] 	 New review: Daniel Kinzler; "@Liangent: Revision::getText() is deprecated, and as far as I can see was never documented to return..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30624
[10:20:27] 	 Change merged: Hashar; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27886
[10:21:47] 	 New patchset: Zfilipin; "Updated Jenkins Git setup" [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30768
[10:21:53] 	 03(NEW) add title normalization to wbgetentities - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41534 enhancement; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; (bugreporter)
[10:22:15] 	 03(mod) Revision::getContentInternal() is not handling text load failure properly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41244  +comment (10Daniel Kinzler)
[10:24:32] 	 03(mod) Highlight searched key words on page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35602  +comment (10Subfader)
[10:34:51] 	 New review: Matmarex; "The new wording seems a little awkward to me, and I'm afraid that it's going to sound more awkward i..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30756
[10:40:04] 	 03(NEW) Add and remove aliases in same edit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41535 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; (aude.wiki)
[10:41:57] 	 New review: Amire80; "Matmarex: That's why I explicitly don't suggest direct translation. I wrote specifically in the qqq ..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30756
[10:54:01] 	 New patchset: Zfilipin; "Added support for IE 6-10" [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30769
[10:56:40] 	 New review: Matmarex; "Yes, and thank you for this, but unfortunately some translators do not read the docs or just straigh..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30756
[10:58:41] 	 04(REOPENED) IP block exempt - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41463  (10Andre Klapper)
[11:03:18] 	 New patchset: Matmarex; "(bug 457) use semantic headings for the navigation menu" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30361
[11:05:25] 	 New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "[FileBackend] Avoid some stat calls in various operations." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30770
[11:07:31] 	 03(FIXED) Collection should process redirects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41046  +comment (10Volker Haas)
[11:14:21] 	 03(mod) Special page and/or parser function to check quotations from references - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41529  (10jeblad)
[11:19:01] 	 03(NEW) recentchanges-table of wikidatawiki incomplete - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41536 normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (wm-bugzilla)
[11:19:10] 	 03(NEW) Add profiling - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41537 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; (jeblad)
[11:19:21] 	 03(mod) Add profiling - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41537  (10jeblad)
[11:21:14] 	 03(mod) recentchanges-table of wikidatawiki incomplete - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41536  +comment (10DaB.)
[11:21:37] 	 03(mod) Add profiling - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41537  (10jeblad)
[11:23:01] 	 03(mod) Special page and/or parser function to check quotations from references - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41529  (10jeblad)
[11:32:06] 	 03(NEW) runQuery "Additional Query" label needs CSS class - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41538 normal; MediaWiki extensions: SemanticForms; (mitchell_neill)
[11:36:05] 	 03(mod) Provide a log of actions which trigger the CAPTCHA - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41522  normal->15enhancement; +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[11:36:11] 	 New review: John Erling Blad; "I think we need to discuss this as it will have implications a lot of places in our doc." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: -2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30738
[11:38:26] 	 03(mod) Thumbnails not displayed for local videos on test2wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41528  (10Andre Klapper)
[11:38:27] 	 03(mod) Thumbnail/imagescaler (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41371  (10Andre Klapper)
[11:41:29] 	 03(mod) Thumbnails not displayed for local videos on test2wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41528  +comment (10Nemo_bis)
[11:43:55] 	 03(NEW) Show more results doesn't actually show more results - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41539 normal; Wikipedia App: Search; (yuvipanda)
[11:46:01] 	 New patchset: Jens Ohlig; "(Bug #40391) Add continuation to wbsearchentities and return only matching aliases" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29956
[11:49:49] 	 03(mod) Add and remove aliases in same edit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41535  (10jeblad)
[11:50:50] 	 New patchset: Matthias Mullie; "disable clicktracking, reset previous values" [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30771
[11:50:51] 	 03(NEW) Wrong message used when adding *or* removing aliases - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41540 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; (raimond.spekking)
[11:51:35] 	 03(mod) [patch] PdfExport - Croatian translation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41525  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[11:53:43] 	 New patchset: Santhosh; "i18n for input method settings" [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30767
[11:56:14] 	 03(mod) Clicking "Disenroll" on course page produces error: "There is no course with name ..." - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41523  (10Andre Klapper)
[12:07:06] 	 03(mod) Errors uploading avatars: Call to undefined function imagecreatefrompng() - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41485  +comment (10Krenair)
[12:07:57] 	 New patchset: Zfilipin; "Change Jenkins job configuration to run all supported browsers" [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30772
[12:09:08] 	 14(INVALID) recentchanges-table of wikidatawiki incomplete - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41536  +comment (10Krenair)
[12:13:43] 	 03(NEW) ULS: the IME feature causes the Wikidata UI breaking - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41541 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; (tobias.gritschacher)
[12:13:55] 	 03(mod) ULS: the IME feature causes the Wikidata UI breaking - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41541  (10tobias.gritschacher)
[12:16:12] 	 03(mod) [patch] PdfExport - Croatian translation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41525  +comment (10Christian Neubauer)
[12:16:47] 	 03(mod) [patch] PdfExport - Croatian translation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41525  +comment (10Christian Neubauer)
[12:16:51] 	 03(NEW) IME feature should be disabled by default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41542 normal; MediaWiki extensions: UniversalLanguageSelector; (tobias.gritschacher)
[12:20:39] 	 03(mod) ULS: the IME feature causes the Wikidata UI breaking - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41541  +comment (10Santhosh Thottingal)
[12:21:08] 	 14(DUP) Input method window is transparent - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41533  +comment (10Raimond Spekking)
[12:21:10] 	 03(mod) ULS: the IME feature causes the Wikidata UI breaking - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41541  +comment (10Raimond Spekking)
[12:24:39] 	 New patchset: Jens Ohlig; "(Bug #40391) Add continuation to wbsearchentities and return only matching aliases" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29956
[12:28:57] 	 Change merged: J; [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30746
[12:30:16] 	 New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "(Bug 41352) Provide tests for edit conflicts." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29973
[12:31:06] 	 HI guys, how can I make that my mediawiki doesn't show the configurator editor for PhpWiki, you can see it here...  http://opendnie.cenatic.es/wiki/index.php/6._Instrucciones_de_instalaci%C3%B3n_de_OpenDNIe
[12:31:23] 	 So anybody can cheat my mediawiki conf :(
[12:32:54] 	 hashar: *poke*
[12:33:13] 	 DanielK_WMDE: pong
[12:34:13] 	 hashar: i think i fixed most of the issues you raised about EditPageTest, see I8f23c653
[12:34:29] 	 i got rid of all the sleeps, btw!
[12:34:50] 	 i now simply change the edit's timestamp in the database#
[12:34:58] 	 you are such a hacker :-]
[12:34:59] 	 kudos!
[12:35:21] 	 heh, thanks
[12:36:11] 	 Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29956
[12:37:04] 	 03(mod) [patch] PdfExport - Croatian translation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41525  +comment (10Andrej)
[12:38:28] 	 03(mod) IP block exempt - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41463  +comment (10Subhashish Panigrahi)
[12:39:10] 	 morning
[12:39:45] 	 sumanah: hi sumanah! good to see you have power and internet!
[12:39:54] 	 DanielK_WMDE: I AM SURPRISED HONESTLY
[12:40:06] 	 I'm reading through the reports and feeling heartsick
[12:40:35] 	 how bad is it?
[12:40:53] 	 millions lost power
[12:41:08] 	 a hospital had to be evacuated
[12:41:11] 	 LOTS of flooding
[12:41:32] 	 "Seven subway tunnels under the East River flooded, according to Joseph J. Lhota, the Metropolitan Transportation Authority chairman. A spokesman said it was unclear how long it would take to pump them out."
[12:42:00] 	 at least 16 deaths
[12:42:18] 	 wow
[12:42:29] 	 sounds like it will take a while until the city is back to normal
[12:42:58] 	 no timetable for the subway to resume service, which is amazing
[12:43:00] 	 03(NEW) Missing indentation for lists - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41543 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend; (hartman.wiki)
[12:43:01] 	 yeah
[12:43:41] 	 I am so lucky
[12:43:46] 	 one more illustration: "In Montauk, at the end of Long Island, a 50-seat restaurant broke in half. Half of the building floated away and broke into pieces on the beach."
[12:43:56] 	 03(WONTFIX) IP block exempt - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41463  +comment (10Krenair)
[12:43:59] 	 SERIOUSLY!
[12:44:10] 	 ...our html handling is broken
[12:44:24] 	 We don't allow a  in a 
[12:44:53] 	 Yaron! How are you & your family doing?
[12:45:12] 	 http://lightbox.time.com/2012/10/30/in-the-eye-of-the-storm-capturing-sandys-wrath/#2
[12:45:56] 	 03(mod) IP block exempt - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41463  +comment (10Subhashish Panigrahi)
[12:46:06] 	 https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012/10/30/nyregion/hurricane-sandys-aftermath.html?hp has an amazing photo of water beginning to pour into a subway station. shocking
[12:46:28] 	 Yeah, those Avenue C pictures are chilling
[12:47:15] 	 O_o
[12:48:55] 	 There's a pretty amazing video of that substation explosion
[12:49:01] 	 a friend of mine has a house in Long Island -- she and her family evacuated to a hotel on higher ground, and I am anticipating that when she gets back home there will be flooding to deal with and maybe worse
[12:49:16] * yuvipanda  notes that there's a storm approaching Chennai too, and since I live close to the beach I'll have a front side view. 
[12:49:24] 	 03(mod) Thumbnails not displayed for local videos on test2wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41528  +comment (10Jan Gerber)
[12:49:39] 	 hope it doesn't get as bad as NY here.
[12:49:53] 	 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAqYZ433TeQ about the 0:25 mark
[12:50:01] 	 stay safe yuvipanda 
[12:50:13] 	 Thanks sumanah
[12:50:22] 	 we get a few of these every year, so I guess I should do fine :)
[12:52:03] 	 my advice on risk mitigation: it's always a cascade failure that gets you, so be a little bit safer than you really "have" to be :)
[12:53:02] 	 New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "(Bug 41352) Proper fix for vanishing content." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29981
[12:54:20] 	 shepazu: :)
[12:54:33] 	 New patchset: J; "Use oggThumb for Ogg Theora files if available" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30774
[12:57:29] 	 03(mod) ULS: the IME feature causes the Wikidata UI breaking - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41541  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[13:02:41] 	 03(NEW) Diffs with long lines cause horizontal scrollbars to appear - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41544 normal; Wikimedia: Git/Gerrit; (matma.rex)
[13:03:13] 	 03(mod) Diffs with long lines cause horizontal scrollbars to appear - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41544  +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[13:03:19] 	 03(NEW) Parser does not permit nested  tags. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41545 normal; MediaWiki: Parser; (mediawiki-bugs)
[13:06:46] 	 hi physikerwelt_ 
[13:07:31] 	 03(mod) IME feature should be disabled by default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41542  +comment (10Santhosh Thottingal)
[13:08:20] 	 physikerwelt_: just wanted to check in and ask whether you maybe wanted to start using an experimental branch if your work on math stuff is still prototype/experiment, not really suitable for master
[13:17:27] 	 New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "Use ContentHandler type and format info in DC output." [mediawiki/extensions/OAI] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30722
[13:17:28] 	 any WMF staffers with DB access around?
[13:18:47] 	 03(mod) Support the less file extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40964  +comment (10Ori Livneh)
[13:24:01] 	 03(mod) Missing indentation for lists - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41543  +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman)
[13:24:05] 	 New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "Use ContentHandler type and format info in DC output." [mediawiki/extensions/OAI] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30722
[13:31:40] 	 03(mod) Parser does not permit nested  tags. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41545  +comment (10Daniel Friesen)
[13:35:15] 	 New patchset: Daniel Friesen; "(bug 41545) Allow kbd, samp, and var to be nested." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30775
[13:35:20] 	 New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "Make non-text data searchable via lsearch." [mediawiki/extensions/OAI] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30724
[13:36:14] 	 03(mod) Parser does not permit nested  tags. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41545  +comment (10Daniel Friesen)
[13:41:01] 	 New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "Avoid constructing Title object if not needed" [mediawiki/extensions/OAI] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30776
[13:43:08] 	 03(NEW) api of mobile view outputs section headers with HTML differently then normal view - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41546 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend; (hartman.wiki)
[13:43:37] 	 03(FIXED) Submitting or saving edits to a course description prompts a "leave page" warning - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39158  (10Jeroen De Dauw)
[13:53:49] 	 New patchset: Santhosh; "Avoid 404s in non-localized locales" [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30330
[14:01:29] 	 03(NEW) Unable to input Japanese text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41547 normal; Wikipedia App: Search; (yuvipanda)
[14:02:41] 	 Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30736
[14:03:33] 	 03(mod) Words in place names in an RTL script appear in the wrong order on the maps - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34201  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[14:04:15] 	 03(mod) "Download as PDF" contains broken licence link - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41273  +comment (10Volker Haas)
[14:05:08] 	 03(mod) Words in place names in an RTL script appear in the wrong order on the maps - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34201  +comment (10Amir E. Aharoni)
[14:05:28] 	 03(mod) IME feature should be disabled by default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41542   +wikidata (10denny vrandecic)
[14:06:16] 	 New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "Brion doesn't have to do everything himself..." [mediawiki/extensions/OAI] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30778
[14:07:56] 	 03(mod) Overlapping Text and Text crossing the borders. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36572  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[14:08:45] 	 03(mod) Unable to input Japanese text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41547   +i18n (10Andre Klapper)
[14:09:11] 	 03(NEW) EditPage should check content model and format early and report problems nicely. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41548 normal; MediaWiki: ContentHandler; (daniel.kinzler)
[14:13:28] 	 03(mod) Impossible to debug exceptions in API requests - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41494  (10Andre Klapper)
[14:14:35] 	 14(WFM) many API requests failing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40428  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[14:20:55] 	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Fixed getArticleContent method to be compatible with ContentHandler" [mediawiki/extensions/EducationProgram] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30780
[14:24:07] 	 03(FIXED) EducationProgram: Fatal "Argument passed to ContentHandler::getContentText must implement Content" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41496  +comment (10Jeroen De Dauw)
[14:24:18] 	 14(WFM) [patch] PdfExport - Croatian translation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41525  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[14:24:33] 	 New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "This fixes bug 41496" [mediawiki/extensions/EducationProgram] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30780
[14:24:53] 	 03(mod) Patrol page link shows on non-existent revs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36641   +patch-in-gerrit (10Andre Klapper)
[14:26:39] 	 03(NEW) Misplaced input method popup while editing aliases - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41549 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataClient; (mr.heat)
[14:27:29] 	 14(DUP) Misplaced input method popup while editing aliases - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41549  +comment (10Raimond Spekking)
[14:27:29] 	 03(mod) ULS: the IME feature causes the Wikidata UI breaking - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41541  +comment (10Raimond Spekking)
[14:33:39] 	 03(mod) Documentation is awful - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39979  +comment (10Jeroen De Dauw)
[14:34:50] 	 Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30590
[14:35:20] 	 03(mod) Rendering of malayalam fonts in SVG - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/25140  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[14:36:16] 	 New patchset: Raimond Spekking; "[OAIRepo] Add new alias file as commented line only" [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30783
[14:36:36] 	 04(REOPENED) Unclear how to submit feature requests. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/3659  (10Andre Klapper)
[14:36:42] 	 Change merged: Raimond Spekking; [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30783
[14:37:19] 	 03(mod) java.sql.SQLException: Incorrect string value: '\xF0\x9D\x9E\xB1_\xF0...' for column 'page_title' at row 9 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32439  (10Andre Klapper)
[14:39:42] 	 New patchset: John Erling Blad; "(Bug 41214) Changes to use variant length prefixes and fragments" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28527
[14:40:01] 	 New review: Foxtrott; "At some point I have to get the HTML. AskAPI only gives me plain results. I need the results formatt..." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30442
[14:41:21] 	 03(mod) ULS: JSON loading problems (Access-Control-Allow-Origin, repeated failures) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41489  +comment (10Nikola Smolenski)
[14:43:07] 	 New patchset: J; "Use oggThumb for Ogg Theora files if available" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30774
[14:43:29] 	 03(mod) Many 404s when accessed in non-localized locale - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41454  +comment (10Nikola Smolenski)
[14:43:33] 	 03(mod) Add support for deploying per-datacenter config variances - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39082  +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[14:44:42] 	 03(mod) Logo for Sami Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30798  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[14:45:23] 	 03(mod) Burmese language name is not shown in the interlanguage links list in IE - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28753  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[14:46:20] 	 03(mod) Please update language families classification - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33115  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[14:48:31] 	 hashar: say, jenkins is using sqlite also for the tests of the Wikibase extension, right?
[14:51:20] 	 03(mod) Please update language families classification - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33115  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[14:51:23] 	 03(NEW) IME selector always open in insert link textbox - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41550 normal; MediaWiki extensions: UniversalLanguageSelector; (santhosh.thottingal)
[14:52:22] 	 03(mod) Support for local differences in mathematical notation. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/16668   +i18n (10Andre Klapper)
[14:53:19] 	 03(mod) Enable WebFonts for the Arabic projects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41359  +comment (10Mohamed Ahmed)
[14:53:33] 	 03(mod) IME selector always open in insert link textbox - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41550  normal->major;  +i18n (10Santhosh Thottingal)
[14:54:20] 	 03(mod) IME selector always open in insert link textbox - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41550  +comment (10Raimond Spekking)
[14:55:12] 	 03(mod) abbr element broken in IE 6 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24778  (10Andre Klapper)
[14:56:54] 	 03(mod) [Regression] General AbuseFilter failings after upgrade - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41247  major->normal; +comment (10Marco Aurelio)
[14:57:22] 	 03(NEW) Add 6 fonts for Arabic WebFonts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41551 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WebFonts; (mohahmwiki)
[14:57:53] 	 New patchset: John Erling Blad; "(Bug 41383) Update wbgetentities to report statements for items" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29945
[14:58:52] 	 New review: Cmcmahon; "multi-config support on the way to multi-IE support" [qa/browsertests] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30772
[14:58:53] 	 Change merged: Cmcmahon; [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30772
[15:00:14] 	 New review: Cmcmahon; "no more default browser.  nice to see a conditional removed!" [qa/browsertests] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30769
[15:01:12] 	 New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "Templates do complicate it yes... Having some kind of API module that returns the results with templ..." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master); V: 0 C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30442
[15:01:31] 	 New review: Cmcmahon; "more git" [qa/browsertests] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30768
[15:01:31] 	 Change merged: Cmcmahon; [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30768
[15:02:15] 	 03(mod) Add support for deploying per-datacenter config variances - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39082  +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[15:02:24] 	 New review: Cmcmahon; "moved to institutional WMF cloudbees account from spike account" [qa/browsertests] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30764
[15:02:24] 	 Change merged: Cmcmahon; [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30764
[15:02:41] 	 Change merged: Santhosh; [mediawiki/extensions/WebFonts] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30765
[15:02:53] 	 New review: Cmcmahon; "second try to submit?" [qa/browsertests] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30769
[15:03:58] 	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "added convenience function to check if something is a coordinates string" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30786
[15:07:15] 	 Hello all, I was wondering what the best resource was for learning how to write via the API using jQuery
[15:07:29] 	 hi Ulfr 
[15:07:34] 	 did you already check out https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Gadget_kitchen/Training and https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Gadget_kitchen
[15:07:36] 	 ?
[15:07:48] 	 sumanah: I did not! I will check it out
[15:11:36] * Ulfr  backs away slowly and makes no sudden movements.
[15:11:50] 	 Yup, I'm going to make the nice easy read stuff look pretty today. Editting doesn't look like fun
[15:11:53] 	 Heh.
[15:12:03] 	 Ulfr: What language are you trying to write a script in?
[15:12:13] 	 Brooke: jQuery
[15:12:15] 	 Ah.
[15:12:23] 	 Sorry, missed that part.
[15:12:28] 	 Yup. I'm one of /those/ people now
[15:12:44] 	 There should be some decent examples on mediawiki.org.
[15:12:56] 	 You'd think so, but they're all for 1.19 or 1.20 
[15:13:02] 	 Right.
[15:13:03] * Ulfr  shakes his fist at no one in particular
[15:13:11] 	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Snippets
[15:13:12] 	 I'm still having PTSD flashbacks from my last upgrade
[15:13:17] 	 Heh.
[15:13:30] 	 jQuery comes with newer versions of MediaWiki.
[15:13:45] 	 Though it should be easy enough to load on older installs.
[15:13:49] 	 Yup! I'm on the latest version I can download
[15:14:04] 	 Oh, I've already got it up and running with only read queries
[15:14:42] 	 also Ulfr just wanted to make sure you'd seen https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:ApiSandbox (that page is on all WMF sites and all fairly modern versions of MW)
[15:15:23] 	 sumanah: That moment you realize that the way you did something was way harder than it ever had to be
[15:16:02] 	 Ulfr: Ugh! but at least then you get the relief of knowing that all future times will be WAY EASIER
[15:16:05] 	 like learning the chain rule in calculus
[15:17:04] 	 I wouldn't know. I got my networking degree with stats and algebra 2
[15:17:12] 	 me and calculus aren't friends
[15:17:41] 	 New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "Any reason to be particularly concerned about the performance of these methods?" [mediawiki/extensions/Diff] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30643
[15:17:41] 	 Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Diff] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30643
[15:18:10] 	 But I see what you're saying
[15:18:16] 	 :)
[15:18:39] 	 Ulfr: MaxSem wrote APISandbox last year
[15:18:43] 	 Oh boy, chatter about a release! Releases are so fun.
[15:18:45] 	 I'm not doing to terribly though, at about 300 lines of code and I know what 90% of it does.
[15:19:09] 	 marktraceur: Too soon.
[15:19:32] 	 Ulfr: The release is, or my excitement is?
[15:19:56] 	 marktraceur: Neither, actually. Just still whining about my horrible upgrade experience
[15:20:20] 	 Ulfr: Aw, it's OK.
[15:20:55] 	 You do a hot swap from CentOS to ubuntu because of PCRE on the fly and tell me it's okay :<
[15:21:16] 	 Ulfr: No thanks! You'll have to take my uneducated word for it
[15:21:30] * sumanah  cannot help but laugh
[15:21:45] 	 New patchset: Santhosh; "Update jquery.ime from upstream" [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30788
[15:21:59] * marktraceur  heads off to the office, no time for hotswapping
[15:22:00] 	 Jerk.
[15:22:03] 	 :P
[15:22:06] 	 Change merged: Nikerabbit; [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30330
[15:24:06] 	 sumanah: You may appreciate this. Due to my newfound ability to jQuery, I've made a couple tools that make troubleshooting easier. I've got the real set and the intern set. The intern set has all the functionality, but the button runs away from the cursor
[15:24:11] 	 03(FIXED) /w/CREDITS servered as application/octet-stream instead of text/plain - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38609  +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[15:24:53] 	 My favorite part is it queries for which user group you're in, so all of the interns look crazy
[15:24:54] 	 03(NEW) [[Special:Version/Credits]]'s headings are not translateable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41552 normal; MediaWiki: Internationalization; (matma.rex)
[15:24:55] 	 Your button is afraid!
[15:25:03] 	 of interns!
[15:25:19] 	 (you'll be giving them the real set after Halloween or something, right?)
[15:26:00] 	 It stays still after about 30 seconds, and I can just take them out of the group once they stop being annoying or they're properly hazed
[15:26:15] 	 Hallo. Is mwEmbed still used by Wikimedia anywhere? I'm not quite following the news about these components.
[15:26:15] 	 Change abandoned: Cmcmahon; "abandoning for re-commit" [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30769
[15:26:15] 	 03(NEW) Qunit testing of DataValues fails when $wgResourceLoaderDebug is false - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41553 normal; MediaWiki extensions: DataValues; (jeblad)
[15:26:20] 	 mdale: ^
[15:26:36] 	 aharoni: hi
[15:26:44] 	 aharoni: its being replaced by timed media handler
[15:27:12] 	 so does it make sense to fix bugs there, or is it going to be deprecated soon?
[15:27:30] 	 (unless they are very important, of course)
[15:27:41] 	 TMH is the extension version of mwEmbed ... correct.. it should be fully deprecated in the coming weeks. 
[15:27:41] 	 There's a Special:Version/Credits?
[15:27:44] 	 That's... ugly.
[15:27:50] 	 thanks mdale
[15:28:02] 	 see wikitech-l for TMH deployment schedule
[15:28:42] 	 Whee.
[15:28:46] 	 New patchset: Nikerabbit; "ULS has now IME integrated" [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30789
[15:29:20] 	 I feel like scientists and doctors already had dibs on obnoxiously long words so us IT folk were stuck with acronyms
[15:30:12] 	 Brooke: it's better than a link to a raw extensionless file on the server...
[15:30:37] 	 Change merged: Santhosh; [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30789
[15:34:08] 	 MatmaRex: I'd prefer Special:Credits or something.
[15:34:22] 	 It never really made much sense to put the names in Special:Version. A subpage makes even less sense, IMO.
[15:35:47] 	 03(mod) SVG thumbnail is cropped when displayed at natural size - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/9832  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[15:38:11] 	 Brooke: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40641#c22
[15:38:53] 	 New patchset: Jens Ohlig; "Little fix for wbsearchentities with empty result list" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30790
[15:39:46] 	 Brooke: i agree that the subpage is weird, so i guess we have a 3:1 majority over daniel there now ;)
[15:40:06] <^demon|lunch>	 I don't like the subpage either.
[15:40:23] <^demon|lunch>	 And TBH, I'm not sure we're really fixing any problem...why does CREDITS have to be shown by the wiki?
[15:40:28] 	 I am in favor of recognizing contributors
[15:40:48] 	 04(REOPENED) Links to COPYING and CREDITS on Special:Version should not trigger a download dialog - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40641  +comment (10MZMcBride)
[15:40:48] 	 I think showing the credits is fine.
[15:40:50] 	 Change merged: Jens Ohlig; [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30584
[15:40:51] <^demon|lunch>	 It's already linked to. I'm not sure why "it downloads" is a problem.
[15:40:53] * ^demon|lunch  shrugs
[15:40:57] <^demon|lunch>	 Anyway, subpage is silly.
[15:41:22] * ^demon|lunch  goes back to eating
[15:41:38] 	 Hi all
[15:41:45] 	 Lots of software packages include a user-visible place to see the author credits.
[15:41:45] 	 hi dneary 
[15:41:48] 	 mdale: so is this bug still relevant? - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20964
[15:41:48] 	 03(NEW) Language links in "Read in other language" miss lang attribute - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41554 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend; (hartman.wiki)
[15:41:55] 	 Hey sumanah how're things? In New York today?
[15:42:00] * MatmaRex  goes to file some bugs
[15:42:14] 	 nope
[15:42:22] 	 aharoni: can be closed.
[15:42:28] 	 thanks.
[15:42:32] 	 dneary: I'm okay! yeah, in NYC but in a part of Queens that didn't get affected too much, thank goodness. And where are you?
[15:42:32] 	 Change merged: Jens Ohlig; [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30587
[15:42:44] 	 sumanah, France
[15:42:58] 	 dneary: hope it's lovely!
[15:42:58] 	 sumanah, Inland - we never get hurricanes here
[15:43:06] 	 Sunny but cold
[15:43:12] 	 03(FIXED) mwEmbed should support GENDER just as MediaWiki core does - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/20964  +comment (10Amir E. Aharoni)
[15:43:15] 	 dneary: you might have already seen my post about http://adainitiative.org/2012/10/10000-matching-donation-challenge-from-sumana-harihareswara-and-leonard-richardson/ somewhere around, but that's the other most exciting thing happening around here
[15:43:50] 	 Any idea what the cause behind this error might be? "Unable to find the wrapper "mwstore"" <- In ConfirmAccount, after upgrading to 1.19
[15:44:03] 	 sumanah, Ah, I did
[15:44:23] 	 I've seen some colleagues promoting Red Hat's matching funds drive in Red Hat too
[15:44:51] 	 oh good to know. I guess right now it might be possible to triple your donation then?
[15:44:55] 	 sumanah, Running the marathon this weekend?
[15:45:05] 	 03(NEW) Rename Special:Version to Special:About - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41555 normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (matma.rex)
[15:45:09] 	 New patchset: Zfilipin; "Added support for IE 6-10" [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30791
[15:45:21] 	 sumanah, Nope - you need to declare matching funds things normally
[15:45:23] 	 dneary: I am humbled by your faith in my athletic prowess. :)  
[15:45:25] 	 03(mod) IME selector always open in insert link textbox - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41550   +wikidata (10Andre Klapper)
[15:45:37] 	 sumanah, Walking the marathon this weekend? :-)
[15:45:40] 	 HA
[15:45:40] 	 03(mod) ULS: the IME feature causes the Wikidata UI breaking - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41541   +wikidata (10Andre Klapper)
[15:45:49] * sumanah  considers "Unable to find the wrapper "mwstore"" <- In ConfirmAccount, after upgrading to 1.19
[15:46:09] 	 I found reports of it in the ConfirmAccount talk page, but no fix
[15:46:45] 	 It seems to turn up regularly in MW
[15:46:45] 	 siebrand: Krenair - can either of you advise dneary here?
[15:46:45] 	 03(mod) ImageMagick: Properly set alpha channel values for XCF Thumbnail - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35622  summary (10Andre Klapper)
[15:46:47] 	 03(mod) Qunit testing of DataValues fails when $wgResourceLoaderDebug is false - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41553  +comment (10Jeroen De Dauw)
[15:46:59] 	 eg: http://www.mail-archive.com/wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org/msg147882.html
[15:47:29] 	 Unfortunately the "I fixed this" comments just say that - "fixed in r38128" or whatever
[15:47:29] 	 Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30786
[15:47:43] 	 So, I have no idea why the error occurs, or how it's fixed
[15:47:58] 	 03(NEW) Rename Special:Version/Credits to Special:Credits - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41556 normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (matma.rex)
[15:48:17] 	 dneary: I use that extension on 1.19, would you mind rehashing your issue?
[15:48:26] * MatmaRex  braces for impact
[15:48:40] 	 thanks Ulfr 
[15:48:54] 	 Ulfr, Actually, quaid is the one who did the upgrade
[15:49:23] 	 I'm confused.
[15:49:27] 	 Ulfr, We've had a number of issues - the first was related to an object type being wrong: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_talk:ConfirmAccount#Accept_Requests_doesn.27t_work_after_update
[15:49:57] 	 Ulfr, And that one got fixed in master (so now we're using master, previously Karsten had tried the 1.19 version of the extension)
[15:50:22] 	 dneary: (re the matching fund stuff -- is the RH matching fund still going? If so, a Red Hat person who donates now could get matched both by me and by the employer)
[15:50:22] 	 03(mod) Links to COPYING and CREDITS on Special:Version should not trigger a download dialog - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40641  +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[15:50:26] 	 After moving to master, we now have this error: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_talk:ConfirmAccount#Update_to_1.19.2_and_mwstoreerror_occurs
[15:50:39] 	 Ulfr, That is the exact problem we're having
[15:50:43] 	 03(mod) Rename Special:Version/Credits to Special:Credits - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41556  +comment (10Daniel Friesen)
[15:51:13] 	 dneary: Hm. I would've lost my mind if I'd encountered this stuff. The build I use appears to work just fine, would you be averse to using a slightly out of date verison?
[15:51:36] 	 I'm not sure but I don't think I mucked with this one too heavily
[15:51:45] 	 New review: Hashar; "Will give a final review tonight." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29973
[15:52:24] 	 03(mod) Rename Special:Version/Credits to Special:Credits - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41556  +comment (10MZMcBride)
[15:53:04] 	 Ulfr, Hopefully quaid is still watching... I'm sure we would. Can you tell me what revision you are using?
[15:53:17] 	 03(mod) Rename Special:Version/Credits to Special:Credits - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41556  +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[15:53:38] 	 dneary: 97984
[15:53:40] 	 version 1.1
[15:54:02] 	 Ulfr, So svn, not git?
[15:54:03] 	 New review: Cmcmahon; "once more with four-part harmony and feeling" [qa/browsertests] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30791
[15:54:03] 	 Change merged: Cmcmahon; [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30791
[15:54:26] 	 dneary: Honestly it was so long ago. most likely svn though
[15:54:50] 	 chrismcmahon: I am amused by that code review excerpt
[15:55:05] 	 chrismcmahon: also, I talked to a jazz musician on a train in California a few weeks ago and now I understand your approach to software development and collaboration better
[15:55:13] 	 Ulfr, If it's a 5 digit revision number, it was svn
[15:55:22] 	 They've been using git for a long time
[15:55:43] 	 sumanah: sounds like an interesting conversation!
[15:56:11] 	 03(mod) Rename Special:Version/Credits to Special:Credits - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41556  +comment (10Daniel Friesen)
[15:56:20] * Ulfr  just had a brain segfault about how Jazz and software development can mix
[15:57:23] 	 chrismcmahon: I was going to point to http://www.stickyminds.com/sitewide.asp?Function=edetail&ObjectType=COL&ObjectId=15178 but there's another piece I'm looking for that you wrote
[15:57:30] 	 dneary: Sounds good man, I'm really on the fringe of how the mediawiki folks do stuff
[15:57:46] 	 I just come in here because someone usually helps me find my way out of the woods
[15:57:53] 	 03(mod) Rename Special:Version/Credits to Special:Credits - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41556  +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[15:57:55] 	 http://pragprog.com/magazines/2010-11/writing-and-performing
[15:58:08] 	 Ulfr sumanah a bit I wrote a while back that got some nice response:  http://pragprog.com/magazines/2010-11/writing-and-performing
[15:58:10] 	 DanielFriesen: you there? it's quicker to discuss on irc.
[15:58:27] 	 03(mod) Rename Special:Version/Credits to Special:Credits - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41556  +comment (10Daniel Friesen)
[15:58:58] 	 chrismcmahon: I will definitely give that a read
[15:59:09] 	 MatmaRex, most of this is stuff I already said... just mentioning it in the place that looks like everyone is going to be reading
[15:59:10] 	 ah, and here's another one for Ulfr http://www.stickyminds.com/sitewide.asp?ObjectId=16433&Function=DETAILBROWSE&ObjectType=COL&sqry=*Z%28SM%29*J%28MIXED%29*R%28relevance%29*K%28simplesite%29*F%28chris+mcmahon%29*&sidx=2&sopp=10&sitewide.asp?sid=1&sqry=*Z%28SM%29*J%28MIXED%29*R%28relevance%29*K%28simplesite%29*F%28chris+mcmahon%29*&sidx=2&sopp=10
[15:59:48] 	 DanielFriesen: alright then
[16:00:16] 	 03(FIXED) Links to COPYING and CREDITS on Special:Version should not trigger a download dialog - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40641  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[16:00:18] 	 argh, URI length foreverrrr
[16:00:47] 	 03(mod) Rename Special:Version to Special:About - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41555  +comment (10Daniel Friesen)
[16:00:57] 	 on a unrelated note, can somebody tell me what for is the feature of the API that allows you to get data about up to 500 pages at once when every time i try it, i get a timeout? :/
[16:01:11] 	 03(mod) Links to COPYING and CREDITS on Special:Version should not trigger a download dialog - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40641  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[16:03:11] 	 03(mod) Rename Special:Version/Credits to Special:Credits - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41556  +comment (10MZMcBride)
[16:03:14] 	 New patchset: Zfilipin; "We are now running tests on Chrome too." [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30793
[16:04:45] 	 03(mod) Rename Special:Version to Special:About - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41555  +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[16:05:18] 	 sumanah: seems like there's some wikidata related issues that are rather visible, like https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41541 and https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41550 . Might be something to backport to wmf3? Judgement welcome
[16:05:43] 	 03(mod) Add support for deploying per-datacenter config variances - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39082  +comment (10Brad Jorsch)
[16:07:50] 	 New review: CSteipp; "We realized yesterday we need a way for users to coordinate with sysops to claim their identities af..." [mediawiki/extensions/CentralAuth] (master); V: 0 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29721
[16:08:47] 	 New review: Cmcmahon; "Chrome support" [qa/browsertests] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30793
[16:08:47] 	 Change merged: Cmcmahon; [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30793
[16:08:47] 	 03(NEW) Accented letters not entered properly in aliases - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41557 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Wikidata; (pirsquared17)
[16:11:03] 	 03(mod) Git links on [[MediaWiki 1.21/wmf3]] does not work in IE8 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41499  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[16:12:10] 	 03(mod) Accented letters not entered properly in aliases - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41557  (10pirsquared17)
[16:12:10] 	 03(NEW) wikibase API should accept upper-case ID prefixes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41558 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; (daniel.kinzler)
[16:12:24] 	 03(UNCONFIRMED) wikibase API should accept upper-case ID prefixes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41558  normal->minor (10Daniel Kinzler)
[16:12:24] 	 03(mod) Rename Special:Version/Credits to Special:Credits - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41556  +comment (10Daniel Friesen)
[16:12:59] 	 03(mod) Rename Special:Version to Special:About - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41555  +comment (10Nemo_bis)
[16:13:24] 	 hi bawolff, how's it going?
[16:13:31] 	 good
[16:14:47] 	 New patchset: Tpt; "(bug 38498) Add of an OAI-PMH API for index pages (Special:ProofreadIndexOai) + a small metadata typing system." [mediawiki/extensions/ProofreadPage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28904
[16:15:17] 	 Actually, I wanted to tell you that i am reading constellation games and really enjying it
[16:15:33] * DanielK_WMDE  has it in the To Read stack.
[16:16:21] 	 funniest book i have read in some time 
[16:16:35] 	 03(mod) Accented letters not entered properly in aliases - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41557   +i18n; +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[16:17:45] 	 03(mod) Raise $wgMaxImageArea to 25 megapixels - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41125  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[16:18:55] 	 03(mod) Enchant Suggestion mode does not work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34707  +comment (10webpaul)
[16:19:02] 	 bawolff: That makes us really happy!
[16:19:09] 	 03(mod) MediaWiki:File-no-thumb-animation-gif is shown for files exceeding 12.5M, even if they render (Bug 41125 raised limit to 25M) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41511  normal->minor; +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[16:19:13] 	 "I am glad that he likes it" says Leonard.
[16:19:38] 	 bawolff: I am straight-up calling things "fluid overlays" these days because it's such a useful term
[16:19:48] 	 bawolff: what chapter are you on?
[16:20:11] 	 New review: Tpt; "Patch set 4:" [mediawiki/extensions/ProofreadPage] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28904
[16:20:14] 	 03(mod) Accented letters not entered properly in aliases - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41557  (10pirsquared17)
[16:20:22] 	 Umm, about 20 i think
[16:21:03] 	 New review: TheDJ; "\pagecolor is not supported by the texvc config of mathjax at this moment, so that is to be expected." [mediawiki/extensions/Math] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23088
[16:21:26] * sumanah  checks which chapter that is
[16:21:45] 	 03(mod) Rename Special:Version/Credits to Special:Credits - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41556  +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[16:22:42] 	 bawolff: one more thing and then I'll stop: have you read the Tetsuo Milk review of P�neis Brilhantes 5 yet? I love that
[16:22:57] 	 New patchset: Matthias Mullie; "maintenance" [mediawiki/extensions/RelatedSites] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28557
[16:22:57] 	 03(mod) Unable to input Japanese text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41547  +comment (10Yuvi Panda)
[16:23:12] 	 New patchset: Matthias Mullie; "maintenance" [mediawiki/extensions/RelatedArticles] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28523
[16:23:25] 	 yes, that was very funny
[16:23:34] 	 14(WFM) MediaWiki:File-no-thumb-animation-gif is shown for files exceeding 12.5M, even if they render (Bug 41125 raised limit to 25M) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41511  +comment (10Nemo_bis)
[16:24:27] 	 whee
[16:24:42] 	 03(mod) Rename Special:Version to Special:About - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41555  +comment (10Isarra)
[16:25:08] 	 Actually one of my friends had heard of that book before i mentioned it, so i think its developing a following 
[16:25:19] 	 New patchset: Anomie; "(bug 13073) Work around Tidy confusion" [mediawiki/extensions/Cite] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30795
[16:25:49] 	 03(mod) Rename Special:Version/Credits to Special:Credits - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41556  +comment (10Daniel Friesen)
[16:26:22] 	 03(mod) ref might add a newline - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/13073   +patch-in-gerrit; +comment (10Brad Jorsch)
[16:27:23] 	 03(mod) Rename Special:Version to Special:About - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41555  +comment (10Daniel Friesen)
[16:28:00] 	 03(mod) MediaWiki:File-no-thumb-animation-gif is shown for files exceeding 12.5M, even if they render (Bug 41125 raised limit to 25M) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41511  +comment (10Bawolff)
[16:29:12] 	 03(mod) Rename Special:Version to Special:About - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41555  +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[16:31:28] 	 New patchset: J; "removeTranscodes needs $file not $title" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30798
[16:31:44] 	 03(mod) Rename Special:Version to Special:About - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41555  +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[16:32:13] 	 Change merged: J; [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30798
[16:32:29] 	 03(mod) Rename Special:Version to Special:About - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41555  +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[16:35:30] 	 dneary: I may not try to keep slicing all the problems down to nil, as we're going to migrate to OpenShift as the platform possibly within the week
[16:35:54] 	 quaid, Being able to approve accounts is kinda important :-)
[16:36:24] 	 03(mod) Rename Special:Version to Special:About - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41555  +comment (10Nemo_bis)
[16:38:07] 	 03(mod) Rename Special:Version to Special:About - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41555  +comment (10Daniel Friesen)
[16:41:23] 	 03(mod) Rename Special:Version/Credits to Special:Credits - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41556  +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[16:42:05] 	 03(mod) Rename Special:Version to Special:About - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41555  +comment (10Platonides)
[16:43:54] 	 New patchset: J; "Bug 41304 - Add X-Content-Duration headers" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29769
[16:46:06] 	 
[16:46:28] 	 hey Amgine
[16:46:57] 	 funny you should show up ~10 hours after we were talking about you...
[16:47:20] 	 lol, really
[16:47:57] 	 New patchset: CSteipp; "Disable editing for non-global accounts" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralAuth] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29721
[16:47:59] 	 Skizzerz is considering adding some to to DPL: templating output.
[16:48:20] 	 14(WFM) Diffs with long lines cause horizontal scrollbars to appear - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41544  +comment (10Chad H.)
[16:48:32] 	 Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30790
[16:48:43] 	 quaid, The easy fix may just be to take an older version - it seems there have been a lot of these mwstore bugs recently
[16:48:49] 	 Also, apparently DPL (3rd) latest is no longer considered vulnerable, bawolff.
[16:49:56] 	 Yeah i herd about that. It also barely works by some accounts 
[16:50:07] 	 or just is buggy
[16:51:05] 	 Well, since it seem to be unchanged from the one you added to gerrit...
[16:51:52] 	 I just coppied over the authors changes.
[16:52:02] 	 ah, didn't survey them?
[16:53:58] 	 not really. I don't want to be responsible for them ;)  
[16:55:00] 	 03(mod) Diffs with long lines cause horizontal scrollbars to appear - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41544  +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[16:55:11] 	  
[16:56:04] 	 If I merge a previous database dump with an existing database, will that nuke any changes made after the backup I'm merging? Or would it just smoosh in the parts taht weren't there arleady
[16:56:06] 	 already*
[16:56:24] 	 Well, hopefully you can support Skizzerz and Leucosticte with development of DPL (wm), bawolff.
[16:58:03] 	 New patchset: Zfilipin; "JUnit test result report is now in a different folder." [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30800
[16:58:28] 	 Change merged: Trevor Parscal; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30748
[16:59:02] 	 Change merged: Trevor Parscal; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30751
[17:01:06] 	 New patchset: Trevor Parscal; "Cleanup tool API" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30312
[17:01:06] 	 03(mod) Rename Special:Version/Credits to Special:Credits - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41556  +comment (10Daniel Friesen)
[17:03:07] 	 03(NEW) Gerrit fails on IE 10 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41559 normal; Wikimedia: Git/Gerrit; (brion)
[17:04:47] 	 New review: Cmcmahon; "output files for use by Jenkins" [qa/browsertests] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30800
[17:04:47] 	 Change merged: Cmcmahon; [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30800
[17:04:48] 	 New patchset: Zfilipin; "'&action=edit' parameter is not always at the end of the URL" [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30801
[17:05:39] 	 yeah, that would be awesome
[17:06:00] 	 New patchset: Trevor Parscal; "Fix ve.batchSplice() to behave in line with docs" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30749
[17:06:08] 	 Change merged: Trevor Parscal; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30749
[17:06:43] 	 Change abandoned: Umherirrender; "No consensus, so abandon it. Feel free to restore, when needed or is ok to merge it." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30192
[17:06:47] 	 wow, my school's wifi is horrid
[17:08:32] 	  btw: are you getting any effects from Sandy?
[17:09:01] 	 03(mod) Language links in "Read in other language" miss lang attribute - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41554  +comment (10Brion Vibber)
[17:09:22] 	 03(NEW) Allow wiki syntax in descriptions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41560 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Wikidata; (mfwarburg)
[17:09:38] 	 its rainy, but that doesn't set it apart from your average day
[17:09:57] 	 a little windier than normal, but not to bad.
[17:10:29] 	 basically i wouldn't know there is a hurricane about unless someone told me
[17:10:36] 	 I think it is mostly missing me
[17:12:34] 	 Yah, the CBC forecast has the centre curving back north of you... looks like Halifax is going to be a clean miss.
[17:15:29] 	 New review: Matmarex; "Also this code breaks about a dozen of MW's conventions, but personally I couldn't care less about i..." [mediawiki/extensions/Math] (master) C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23088
[17:15:32] 	 New patchset: Aude; "store rc_bot in change info blob" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30803
[17:15:39] 	 03(mod) Gerrit fails on IE 10 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41559  +comment (10Chad H.)
[17:15:45] 	 03(mod) wikibase API should accept upper-case ID prefixes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41558  (10jeblad)
[17:16:16] 	 for the record, the answer was yes, it will nuke any changes made
[17:17:16] 	 03(mod) Gerrit fails on IE 10 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41559  +comment (10Brion Vibber)
[17:19:31] 	 New patchset: Alex Monk; "(bug 36145) Use full URL (protocol relative) instead of canonical one on the global block list" [mediawiki/extensions/GlobalBlocking] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30804
[17:20:04] 	 03(mod) Convert to protocol relative link — report line in Special:GlobalBlockList - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36145  +comment (10Krenair)
[17:20:45] 	 Ulfr: ouch.
[17:21:22] 	 New review: TheDJ; "@Physikerwelt" [mediawiki/extensions/Math] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30177
[17:23:39] 	 03(mod) ULS: the IME feature causes the Wikidata UI breaking - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41541  (10jeblad)
[17:23:39] 	 Amgine: Eh, not the worst thing in the world. Only lost like 12 changes
[17:24:11] 	 But that outage amazon had is still making things difficult in magical ways
[17:24:47] 	 03(mod) ULS: the IME feature causes the Wikidata UI breaking - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41541  (10jeblad)
[17:34:44] 	 03(mod) ULS: the IME feature causes the Wikidata UI breaking - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41541  (10jeblad)
[17:35:53] 	 New patchset: Chughakshay16; "(bug 21119) link to toggle hidden categories" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/3981
[17:37:43] 	 03(mod) Editing busted in IE8 (at least) due to EventLogging - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41428  +comment (10Chad H.)
[17:42:59] 	 03(mod) Gerrit fails on IE 10 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41559   +upstream; +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[17:45:35] 	 03(mod) Gerrit fails on IE 10 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41559  +comment (10Chad H.)
[17:48:38] 	 03(FIXED) Git links on [[mw:MediaWiki 1.21/wmf3]] does not work in IE8 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41499  summary; +comment (10Umherirrender)
[17:49:08] 	 03(mod) Don't retrieve edit token (or any other type of tokens) on article view - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41519  +comment (10Jon)
[17:49:57] 	 03(FIXED) API: param generatexml needs wikitext - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40574  +comment (10Umherirrender)
[17:53:06] 	 03(mod) Windows 8/RT Internet Explorer 10 given non-JS version of mobile site - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41517  +comment (10Jon)
[17:55:01] 	 03(mod) wikibase API should accept upper-case ID prefixes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41558  +comment (10Daniel Kinzler)
[17:55:24] 	 03(mod) wikibase API should accept upper-case ID prefixes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41558  +comment (10Daniel Kinzler)
[17:55:29] 	 03(mod) L10n-bot stray patch set - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41264   +upstream; +comment (10Chad H.)
[17:57:15] 	 03(mod) L10n-bot stray patch set - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41264  (10Andre Klapper)
[17:59:05] 	 New review: Physikerwelt; "@The DJ" [mediawiki/extensions/Math] (master) C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30177
[18:00:43] 	 03(mod) Blank messages via Mobile Feedback should not be sent - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41502  +comment (10Jon)
[18:01:49] 	 New patchset: Aude; "store rc_bot in change info blob" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30803
[18:02:45] 	 03(mod) Blank messages via Mobile Feedback should not be sent - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41502  +comment (10Oliver Keyes)
[18:04:00] 	 03(mod) Missing indentation for lists - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41543  +comment (10Jon)
[18:05:31] 	 03(mod) Missing indentation for lists - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41543  +comment (10Jon)
[18:11:58] 	 03(mod) Blank messages via Mobile Feedback should not be sent - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41502  +comment (10Jon)
[18:12:57] 	 03(NEW) &action=edit parameter is not always at the end of the URL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41561 normal; MediaWiki: Page editing; (zfilipin)
[18:20:25] 	 03(mod) Blank messages via Mobile Feedback should not be sent - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41502  +comment (10Oliver Keyes)
[18:20:57] 	 03(NEW) Can't see expand arrow in night mode using Wikipedia Beta 1.4beta1 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41562 normal; Wikipedia App: Generic; (tfinc)
[18:21:03] 	 03(mod) Can't see expand arrow in night mode using Wikipedia Beta 1.4beta1 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41562  (10Tomasz Finc)
[18:21:33] 	 New patchset: Aude; "cleaning up recent changes code, ExternalRecentChange stuff to handle more stuff" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30809
[18:21:36] 	 New review: Mwjames; "I'm hanging on different branch right now (which is a mess), I can't really test this therefore I ca..." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30442
[18:22:19] 	 New patchset: Yaron Koren; "Added error-checking if # of values per line is uneven in CSV file" [mediawiki/extensions/ExternalData] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30810
[18:23:28] 	 Change merged: Yaron Koren; [mediawiki/extensions/ExternalData] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30810
[18:23:59] 	 03(mod) Blank messages via Mobile Feedback should not be sent - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41502  +comment (10Arthur Richards)
[18:24:15] 	 jdlrobson: i want to confirm that experimental editing will be across all languages 
[18:24:49] 	 siebrand: hey! Just asking - how does one report 'wrong translation'?
[18:25:00] 	 tfinc: should be.. why?
[18:25:08] 	 apparently the one in traditional chinese for the app is wrong (getting a few reports of it)
[18:25:19] 	 jdlrobson: i assumed it was all but howie wanted to confirm
[18:26:52] 	 03(mod) Blank messages via Mobile Feedback should not be sent - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41502  +comment (10Oliver Keyes)
[18:27:24] 	 Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30788
[18:27:31] 	 New patchset: Aude; "cleaning up recent changes code, ExternalRecentChange stuff to handle more stuff" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30809
[18:28:58] 	 New review: Cmcmahon; "I'd like to know whether https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41561 is expected behavior b..." [qa/browsertests] (master); V: 1 C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30801
[18:29:08] 	 Change merged: Adamw; [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30740
[18:29:26] 	 New review: Demon; "Generally speaking, it might be worth just dropping the 1.4 compat :)" [mediawiki/tools/mwdumper] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30318
[18:29:26] 	 Change merged: Demon; [mediawiki/tools/mwdumper] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30318
[18:29:32] 	 Change merged: IAlex; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30653
[18:29:37] 	 03(mod) Blank messages via Mobile Feedback should not be sent - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41502  +comment (10Jon)
[18:29:37] 	 New review: Aude; "I am already working on cleaning up code in the client extension, so there would be a bit of merge c..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30737
[18:29:38] 	 03(mod) WikiSets: links broken in the log - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27031  (10Krenair)
[18:30:25] 	 Change merged: Demon; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29423
[18:31:55] 	 03(NEW) Installation of Extension: Collection on Urdu Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41563 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Extensions requests; (sb_nadwi)
[18:33:29] 	 03(mod) Installation of Extension: Collection on Urdu Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41563  normal->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[18:34:00] 	 03(mod) Missing indentation for lists - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41543  +comment (10Jon)
[18:34:18] 	 03(mod) Special:Blocklist does not provide links to contributions when an IP range is the target - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31795  (10Krenair)
[18:35:28] 	 03(mod) Blank messages via Mobile Feedback should not be sent - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41502  +comment (10Oliver Keyes)
[18:36:42] * awjr  waves at sumanah
[18:37:11] 	 sumanah: who is responsible for maintaining bugzilla these days? there is an email address i'd like to add as an automattic cc for mobile bugs
[18:37:21] 	 03(mod) Provide more options on dashboard - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30334  (10Krenair)
[18:37:47] 	 New patchset: Zfilipin; "IE sometimes checks page URL before the page loads" [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30813
[18:38:02] 	 03(mod) Blank messages via Mobile Feedback should not be sent - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41502  +comment (10Jon)
[18:38:16] 	 03(mod) 
 tags are inserted between transcluded pages, if they contain images - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30262  (10Krenair)
[18:39:18] 	 03(mod) prefix search does not know _ -> ' ' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30125  (10Krenair)
[18:41:26] 	 03(mod) Search and replace doesn't work on chrome or epiphany - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30162  (10Krenair)
[18:41:58] 	 03(mod) Bad UTF-8 in ThreadSignature breaks huwiki XML dumps and Special:Export - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29564  (10Krenair)
[18:42:24] 	 New patchset: Siebrand; "i18n for input method settings" [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30767
[18:43:01] 	 03(mod) Auto-categorize pages that contain invalid HTML - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40633  +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[18:43:08] 	 New review: Mwjames; "MW 1.21alpha (85af608) + C11.0.700.3" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticForms] (master) C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30553
[18:43:11] 	 03(mod) Blank messages via Mobile Feedback should not be sent - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41502  +comment (10Oliver Keyes)
[18:44:42] 	 14(DUP) Use wikisets for opt-in and opt-out for global filters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41524  +comment (10Ajraddatz)
[18:44:42] 	 03(mod) Adding project identification variable to AbuseFilter - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41172  +comment (10Ajraddatz)
[18:44:43] 	 New review: Mwjames; "OS Win98 and Windows Vista (Japanese Version)" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticForms] (master) C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30553
[18:48:15] 	 hi awjr! andre__ (Andre Klapper) is your dude
[18:48:33] 	 New patchset: Adamw; "another contenthandler tweak" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30815
[18:48:33] 	 thanks sumanah! i tracked down the info and just sent an email :)
[18:49:02] 	 awjr, I'm around here too :)
[18:49:04] * awjr  waves to andre__
[18:49:10] 	 hola!
[18:49:35] 	 New review: Foxtrott; "All I could get from an ask API-call would be raw result data, which was sent on initial page load a..." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30442
[18:49:51] 	 cool! biab
[18:49:57] 	 Change merged: Kaldari; [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30815
[18:50:07] 	 awjr, email received, will fix later
[18:50:12] 	 thanks andre__
[18:50:46] 	 New patchset: Siebrand; "i18n for input method settings" [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30767
[18:52:13] 	 03(mod) Blank messages via Mobile Feedback should not be sent - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41502  +comment (10Jon)
[18:52:16] 	 03(FIXED) Don't retrieve edit token (or any other type of tokens) on article view - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41519  +comment (10Max Semenik)
[18:53:37] 	 03(mod) Blank messages via Mobile Feedback should not be sent - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41502  +comment (10Oliver Keyes)
[18:55:35] 	 New review: Cmcmahon; "handle AJAX" [qa/browsertests] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30813
[18:55:35] 	 Change merged: Cmcmahon; [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30813
[18:55:42] 	 03(mod) MobileFrontend extension loads JavaScript twice, has weird errors when database error occurs in job queue - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41333  +comment (10Jon)
[18:56:58] 	 New patchset: Kaldari; "Update Moodbar and CentralNotice to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30816
[18:59:08] 	 Why is the profiling database table stored in memory? (Engine = HEAP)
[19:00:15] 	 Change merged: Kaldari; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30816
[19:00:21] 	 New review: Siebrand; "PS4 adds missing string." [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master); V: 0 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30767
[19:00:21] 	 Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30767
[19:00:35] 	 03(mod) Selecting Random on the contact/settings page adds keeps adding "read articles" and icons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41516  summary; +comment (10Jon)
[19:01:16] 	 03(FIXED) List of languages incomplete - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41458  +comment (10Jon)
[19:04:11] 	 New patchset: Bsitu; "Update CentralNotice, MoodBar to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf3) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30817
[19:04:31] 	 Change merged: Bsitu; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf3) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30817
[19:08:05] 	 andre__: can you also add yuvipanda@gmail.com for all new bugs entered in any of the app products?
[19:10:16] 	 This so doesn't scale, sigh (not anybody's fault though)...
[19:10:20] 	 yuvipanda, which ones?
[19:10:34] 	 all of them? :D
[19:10:41] 	 wikipedia, wiktionary, wikisource, commons, wiki loves monuments
[19:11:38] 	 03(mod) Android app should allow pinch and zoom - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34293  +comment (10Praveen Singh)
[19:14:40] 	 New patchset: Foxtrott; "Remove dropping of type attribute for button html elements" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30819
[19:14:54] 	 yuvipanda, sure
[19:18:18] 	 The patchSql.php maintenance file creates the profiling table, in order to log profile data to the database...but the profiling table is stored in memory. Is there any particular reason for not having it be InnoDB?
[19:20:00] 	 yuvipanda, done. happy bugmail handling ;)
[19:20:15] 	 andre__: thanks!
[19:20:24] 	 hmm.
[19:21:37] 	 k, so now the bug hit me... It seems the RL is sometimes outputting results that are totally missing a module...
[19:22:14] 	 we have had regular reports of this kind of problem on WP:VP/T
[19:22:30] 	 New patchset: Foxtrott; "Remove dropping of type attribute for button html elements" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30819
[19:25:03] 	 hello everyone!  hoping someone can help with an issue I'm having with .htaccess
[19:25:46] 	 I have pages that have ampersands and periods in them that now don't display properly, I know there's a way to implement via .htaccess file, I just can't remember how
[19:28:00] 	 New patchset: Matthias Mullie; "maintenance" [mediawiki/extensions/GeoCrumbs] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30820
[19:29:04] 	 New patchset: Hashar; "(bug 37963) Fixed loading process for user options." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17464
[19:29:41] 	 Does https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/status:open+project:mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend,n,z have an equivalent rss feed?
[19:30:02] 	 New patchset: John Erling Blad; "(Bug 41537) Added a number of calls to wfProfileIn and wfProfileOut" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30821
[19:30:09] 	 New review: Hashar; "I have added an entry in 1.21 release notes. Had to rebase to fix the conflict in that file." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17464
[19:30:52] 	 03(mod) Collection should process redirects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41046  +comment (10T. Gries)
[19:31:37] 	 any assistance appreciated
[19:33:57] 	 03(mod) Documentation is awful - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39979  +comment (10Mark Holmquist)
[19:38:35] 	 Change merged: Hashar; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17464
[19:40:01] 	 New review: John Erling Blad; "Some entries are wrong, a new patchset is in the work." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: -2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30821
[19:40:48] 	 jdlrobson: maybe via gitweb.
[19:41:32] 	 jdlrobson: oh no gitweb only has the merged changes :/
[19:42:19] 	 grrr
[19:42:56] 	 jdlrobson: you can ask to get a mail notification for a specific project
[19:43:33] 	 jdlrobson: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/settings/projects , add a project name at the top then tick the mail notification types you are interested in
[19:43:56] 	 New patchset: Mwalker; "CN Paging Bugs - Ambiguous Query and Warnings" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30824
[19:44:08] 	 i don't want mail hashar i want rss :(
[19:44:26] 	 jdlrobson: there is none (yet)
[19:44:45] 	 k going to investigate finding a way to do this in 20% time
[19:44:55] 	 jdlrobson: upstream as an issue opened for it http://code.google.com/p/gerrit/issues/detail?id=561
[19:45:13] 	 thanks hashar 
[19:45:47] 	 New review: Krinkle; "How about instead of dropping the default, we enforce the default instead. That way it will be type=..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30819
[19:46:40] 	 ori-l points out https://github.com/atdt/gerrit-stream hashar
[19:48:45] 	 New review: Krinkle; "Don't rebase and make changes in the same patch revision! There is now no way in the Gerrit to see t..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/3981
[19:49:29] 	 03(mod) Auto-categorize pages that contain invalid HTML - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40633  +comment (10MZMcBride)
[19:49:30] 	 03(mod) Collection should process redirects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41046  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[19:52:37] 	 03(mod) Collection should process redirects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41046  +comment (10T. Gries)
[19:52:52] 	 New review: Krinkle; "Initial review, there's more but letting Hoo look at it first." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/3981
[19:53:27] 	 03(FIXED) Requesting 'sections' for nonexistent page does not give error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41042  +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman)
[19:58:14] 	 New patchset: TheDJ; "Add support to MathJax for RGB colors" [mediawiki/extensions/Math] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23088
[19:58:31] 	 New review: TheDJ; "Done in PS2" [mediawiki/extensions/Math] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23088
[19:59:21] 	 03(mod) Collection should process redirects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41046  +comment (10Marcin Cieślak)
[20:01:01] 	 New review: TheDJ; "@Matmarax, regarding code conventions, this really is a change to 3rd party code. I think that event..." [mediawiki/extensions/Math] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23088
[20:02:00] 	 New patchset: John Erling Blad; "(Bug 41537) Added a number of calls to wfProfileIn and wfProfileOut" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30821
[20:02:37] 	 03(mod) Lohit Punjabi font problems - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40473  +comment (10Zarienah Kaur)
[20:04:15] 	 jdlrobson: is there a reason for forcing the table to display:block ? It's a rather 'wide' change.
[20:04:22] 	 New review: John Erling Blad; "Should be fixed now" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30821
[20:04:51] 	 New patchset: Siebrand; "Update tags for MediaWiki core branch support" [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30827
[20:05:33] 	 Change merged: Siebrand; [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30827
[20:06:14] 	 thedj: horizontal scrolling
[20:06:23] 	 thedj: there is an outstanding todo to completely change tables on mobile anyhow
[20:10:25] 	 New patchset: Krinkle; "(bug 40340) Fix cache issues with changing user groups" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24249
[20:10:41] 	 New review: Krinkle; "* Rebased" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24249
[20:11:21] 	 New patchset: Krinkle; "(bug 40340) Fix cache issues with changing user groups" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24249
[20:11:46] 	 New review: Krinkle; "* Addressed comments on previous patch sets." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24249
[20:13:14] 	 New patchset: Foxtrott; "Set default type attribute for button html elements" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30819
[20:16:26] 	 jdlrobson: ah, to create the 'scroll box'
[20:16:51] 	 yeh thedj - still need to fix that badly .. waiting to grab some designers to get some ideas for doing that better
[20:18:11] 	 jdlrobson: the thing is that setting it to table also affects the caption for instance.
[20:18:17] 	 eh to block
[20:18:36] 	 blegh. will have to dream about this :D
[20:18:45] 	 brion: hi! you around? 
[20:18:48] 	 sup
[20:19:29] 	 brion: damn, just got called away by my wife for moving things around... anyway, just wanted to ask you if you could look into the OAI stuff i wrote since yesterday
[20:19:38] 	 that stuff would help wikidata to make use of lucene
[20:19:47] * DanielK_WMDE  is afk
[20:20:35] 	 thedj: tables are broken in general :)
[20:20:40] 	 New patchset: Siebrand; "Backport compatible message changes from master." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30830
[20:20:40] 	 New patchset: Siebrand; "Backport translations for installer." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30831
[20:21:08] 	 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36936 < thedj 
[20:21:22] 	 DanielK_WMDE: ok i'll look over the code review after this meeting
[20:21:31] 	 03(FIXED) Table borders are always shown - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37222  (10Jon)
[20:22:07] 	 Amgine:  is there a canonical method to generate missing page titles?
[20:22:15] 	 Amgine: I guess you can create a new title object with some random title
[20:22:34] 	 Amgine: eventually assert() it does not exist in the database to be sure
[20:22:56] 	 Well, I want to ensure the title generated is not found.
[20:24:21] 	 New patchset: Mwjames; "SRF Gallery, enable URL redirects" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30832
[20:26:00] 	 New patchset: Siebrand; "Backport translations for the installer from master" [mediawiki/core] (REL1_19) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30834
[20:29:19] 	 brion: thanks!
[20:29:34] 	 New patchset: Siebrand; "Backport compatible message changes from master" [mediawiki/core] (REL1_19) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30835
[20:29:56] 	 Amgine: in a test case? or what's the use case for this?
[20:30:26] 	 Amgine: you could use a GUID as the page title. chances of collisions are slim. and you can always check and retry.
[20:30:35] 	 thedj: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41543#c2 < did you see my comments today?
[20:31:01] 	 DanielK_WMDE: the specific use case is api missingpage error.
[20:31:24] 	 Amgine: you need to generate a title to report the error?...
[20:33:09] 	 Amgine: or is it about testing that error? in that case, it's easy, because tests in @group Database start with an empty database
[20:33:10] 	 The recently merged patch used mt_random() in the unit test to generate a page title which would generate the error, a method which seemed likely to have collisions but which was reported to be the standard method in the unit tests.
[20:33:14] 	 well, empty when phpunit starts
[20:34:12] 	 Amgine: i'd probably use a prefix specific to the test case, the system time, and something random, but yea. 
[20:34:37] 	 but as i said, you don't have to worry about anything persistent in the db, becauser phpunit start out with an empty db anyway
[20:34:43] 	 so, no collisions from old runs, etc.
[20:35:06] 	 if the same test function is called multiple times, use a counter
[20:35:47] 	  an adhoc method though.
[20:36:09] 	 03(mod) Missing indentation for lists - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41543  +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman)
[20:37:10] 	 jdlrobson: i did now :D
[20:37:45] 	 Amgine: GUIDs should always work. you could add a makeGuidTitle function to MediaWikiTestCase
[20:38:51] 	 thanks thedj 
[20:40:33] 	 03(mod) Missing indentation for lists - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41543  +comment (10Jon)
[20:41:27] 	 New patchset: Siebrand; "Backport translations for installer." [mediawiki/core] (REL1_20) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30845
[20:41:43] 	 Change abandoned: Siebrand; "Was meant for REL1_20" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30831
[20:42:05] 	 New patchset: Siebrand; "Backport compatible message changes from master." [mediawiki/core] (REL1_20) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30850
[20:42:49] 	 Change abandoned: Siebrand; "Was meant for REL1_20" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30830
[20:43:33] 	 New patchset: Reedy; "Tidy up inconsistent returns" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30737
[20:45:07] 	 New patchset: Siebrand; "Backport compatible message changes from master" [mediawiki/core] (REL1_18) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30873
[20:45:44] 	 New patchset: Foxtrott; "Set default type attribute for button html elements" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30819
[20:47:44] 	 New patchset: TheDJ; "Restructuring Math classes" [mediawiki/extensions/Math] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30177
[20:48:14] 	 ^demon: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/30761/
[20:49:21] 	 Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/core] (REL1_20) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30845
[20:49:26] 	 03(mod) &action=edit parameter is not always at the end of the URL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41561  +comment (10Brion Vibber)
[20:50:55] 	 Change merged: Demon; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30761
[20:51:23] 	 jdlrobson: wait, you rebased and you are asking me to rebase ? am I missing something ?
[20:53:34] 	 thedj it wouldn't let me rebase
[20:53:43] 	 said there was merge conflicts
[20:53:58] 	 it's due to https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/30805/ 
[20:54:12] 	 if you just remove any changes to mf-hacks.less and mf-hacks.css it should be fine
[20:55:42] 	 I have a mediawiki site on my local machine where urls look like this:  host/index.php/pagename. When I deployed to production, the urls look like this:  host/index.php?title=pagename. Why is this?
[20:56:27] 	 jdlrobson: i think something went wrong. there is now a PS3 with a lot of unrelated changes https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/30782/3
[20:57:19] 	 mm
[20:57:40] 	 don't worry thedj i'll take care of it
[20:58:49] 	 thedj: rebased?
[20:59:50] 	 New patchset: Reedy; "SpecialBannerListLoader uses ApiCentralNoticeAllocations, so it needs to be loaded..." [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30888
[21:02:04] 	 Change merged: Kaldari; [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30888
[21:05:21] 	 New patchset: Kaldari; "Update CentralNotice to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30890
[21:05:33] 	 Change merged: Kaldari; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30890
[21:06:08] 	 New patchset: Foxtrott; "force type=submit for buttons; provide placeholder attribute" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticForms] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30891
[21:06:14] 	 03(WONTFIX) Rename Special:Version/Credits to Special:Credits - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41556  +comment (10Krinkle)
[21:06:59] 	 03(FIXED) mwdumper doesn't set page.is_redirect for borderline #redirect syntax - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/7497  -patch  (10Bean49)
[21:07:40] 	 thedj: check it out
[21:07:47] 	 Change merged: Yaron Koren; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticForms] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30553
[21:08:32] 	 i would like to remove ALL pages created by a particular IP address
[21:09:13] 	 New patchset: Reedy; "Fix use of undefined $db" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30892
[21:11:04] 	 New patchset: Reedy; "Fix end of line stuff" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30893
[21:11:28] 	 Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30892
[21:11:33] 	 Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30893
[21:12:05] 	 Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/core] (REL1_20) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30850
[21:13:26] 	 03(mod) Rename Special:Version to Special:About - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41555  +comment (10Krinkle)
[21:13:43] 	 New review: Siebrand; "Test workflow appears to be broken. This trivial change shouldn't fail tests." [mediawiki/core] (REL1_19); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30834
[21:13:58] 	 New review: Siebrand; "Test workflow appears to be broken. This trivial change shouldn't fail tests." [mediawiki/core] (REL1_19); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30835
[21:13:58] 	 New review: Siebrand; "Test workflow appears to be broken. This trivial change shouldn't fail tests." [mediawiki/core] (REL1_18); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30873
[21:14:03] 	 03(mod) Missing indentation for lists - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41543  +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman)
[21:16:29] 	 03(mod) Missing indentation for lists - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41543  +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman)
[21:18:14] 	 New review: Brion VIBBER; "Looks functional..." [mediawiki/extensions/OAI] (master); V: 0 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30722
[21:18:30] 	 New review: Hashar; "Some tests somehow takes a bit more than 2seconds to execute:" [mediawiki/core] (REL1_19); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30834
[21:18:47] 	 New review: Brion VIBBER; "Looks functional" [mediawiki/extensions/OAI] (master); V: 0 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30724
[21:19:03] 	 New review: Brion VIBBER; ":)" [mediawiki/extensions/OAI] (master); V: 0 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30778
[21:19:10] * Aaron|home  likes brion's review comments
[21:20:16] 	 :)
[21:20:16] 	 ltr oriented = ):
[21:20:42] 	 except winkies don't work the other way 'round.
[21:21:08] 	 saper: ah you fixed it ?
[21:23:22] 	 03(NEW) Diff display if no label - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41564 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; (aude.wiki)
[21:25:59] 	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Fixed getArticleContent method to be compatible with ContentHandler" [mediawiki/extensions/EducationProgram] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30780
[21:26:00] 	 04(REOPENED) EducationProgram: Fatal "Argument passed to ContentHandler::getContentText must implement Content" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41496  (10Jeroen De Dauw)
[21:26:30] 	 Change abandoned: Jeroen De Dauw; "Will be part of upcoming commit, having it separate prevents me from running tests" [mediawiki/extensions/EducationProgram] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30780
[21:26:46] 	 thedj: just rebased - PS3 also looked fine to me, not sure where was the problem?
[21:38:58] 	 New patchset: Katie Horn; "Fixing the stack trace currently being served up by bt and obt transactions" [mediawiki/extensions/DonationInterface] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30896
[21:46:02] 	 New patchset: Adamw; "repeated banner in testing mode" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30897
[21:48:41] 	 03(mod) New extension to one-click revert all of a user's actions in recentchanges - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/13601  (10Nemo_bis)
[21:48:43] 	 03(mod) Steward, global sysop and SWMT tasks bugs (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41492  (10Nemo_bis)
[21:49:09] 	 03(mod) Allow blocking open proxies based on X-Forwarded-For header (XFF) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/23343  (10Nemo_bis)
[21:49:09] 	 03(mod) Steward, global sysop and SWMT tasks bugs (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41492  (10Nemo_bis)
[21:50:29] 	 03(NEW) REL1_19 tests chokes on parserTests - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41565 blocker; Wikimedia: Testing Infrastructure; (hashar)
[21:50:39] 	 New review: Hashar; "See https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41565" [mediawiki/core] (REL1_19); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30834
[21:52:34] 	 New patchset: Adamw; "repeated banner in testing mode" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30897
[21:53:16] 	 New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "[FileBackend] Support "ignoreMissingSource" for copy and move operations." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30744
[21:53:16] 	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Added ArticlePager test" [mediawiki/extensions/EducationProgram] (ch) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30898
[21:53:16] 	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Move classes into EducationProgram namespace" [mediawiki/extensions/EducationProgram] (ch) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30899
[21:53:36] 	 New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "[FileBackend] Support "ignoreMissingSource" for copy and move operations." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30744
[21:53:46] 	 03(mod) REL1_19 tests chokes on parserTests - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41565  +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[21:54:39] 	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "* Moved classes into EducationProgram namespace * Added tests * Fixed some docs * Removed @file stuffs * Fixed some bugs, inc bug 41496" [mediawiki/extensions/EducationProgram] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30900
[21:54:48] 	 Reedy: you still use win right?
[21:54:53] 	 Ysa
[21:54:55] 	 *Ya
[21:55:02] 	 For some things...
[21:55:02] 	 Change abandoned: Jeroen De Dauw; "(no reason)" [mediawiki/extensions/EducationProgram] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30900
[21:55:06] 	 DAMN YOU STEAM.
[21:55:21] 	 Reedy: can you run the tests for https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/30770/1 ?
[21:55:31] 	 works on win7 for me
[21:55:47] 	 Change abandoned: Jeroen De Dauw; "(no reason)" [mediawiki/extensions/EducationProgram] (ch) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30899
[21:55:51] 	 I don't actually run a webserver in windows though
[21:56:00] 	 New patchset: Massaf; "Restore benefits CSS, tooltips for error messages" [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30752
[21:56:21] 	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "* Moved classes into EducationProgram namespace" [mediawiki/extensions/EducationProgram] (ch) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30901
[21:56:34] 	 MaxSem: ^^^^
[21:56:34] 	 New patchset: Adamw; "country override" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30902
[21:57:10] 	 Change merged: Mwalker; [mediawiki/extensions/DonationInterface] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30896
[21:58:00] 	 sorry, I'm about to deploy and my Apache on Windows is a roast anyway, I also tend to use a VM lately
[21:58:36] 	 New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "Note that this is submitted to ch branch, not to master. Will make some follow up commits with more ..." [mediawiki/extensions/EducationProgram] (ch); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30901
[21:59:10] 	 03(mod) EducationProgram: Fatal "Argument passed to ContentHandler::getContentText must implement Content" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41496  +comment (10Jeroen De Dauw)
[22:01:12] 	 New patchset: MaxSem; "Update MobileFrontend to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf3) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30904
[22:03:40] 	 Change merged: MaxSem; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf3) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30904
[22:06:53] 	 New patchset: Hashar; "Increase permitted runtime for testParserTest" [mediawiki/core] (REL1_19) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30908
[22:07:40] 	 New review: Hashar; "Backported in REL1_19 with https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/30908/ to fix up bug 41565" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/5445
[22:09:37] 	 New patchset: J; "fix thumb in getImagePopUp" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30909
[22:11:41] 	 Change merged: J; [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30909
[22:11:43] 	 New review: Siebrand; "Lgtm" [mediawiki/core] (REL1_19); V: 0 C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30908
[22:11:59] 	 New patchset: Bsitu; "Update CentralNotice to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf3) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30910
[22:12:04] 	 03(mod) REL1_19 tests chokes on parserTests - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41565  +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[22:12:18] 	 New review: Siebrand; "I think 1.18 needs this too." [mediawiki/core] (REL1_19); V: 0 C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30908
[22:12:47] 	 Change merged: Bsitu; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf3) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30910
[22:14:08] 	 New review: Hashar; "per discussion with Sam and Chris.  Will add a new commit to update the release notes." [mediawiki/core] (REL1_19); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30908
[22:14:09] 	 Change merged: Hashar; [mediawiki/core] (REL1_19) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30908
[22:15:31] 	 Aaron|home: I got access to BrowserStack if you need windows testing
[22:17:13] 	 this was just about a cli unit test script, I already ran it on one of my win boxen
[22:17:13] 	 New patchset: Krinkle; "backport Language::fetchLanguageNames and Language::fetchLanguageName from 1.20   so that latest MobileFrontend works." [mediawiki/core] (REL1_19) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28968
[22:17:13] 	 New patchset: Krinkle; "Backport translations for the installer from master" [mediawiki/core] (REL1_19) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30834
[22:17:13] 	 Oh, nevermind.. I thought you wanting frontend test
[22:19:30] 	 04(REOPENED) List of languages incomplete - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41458  +comment (10Jon)
[22:19:36] 	 New patchset: Hashar; "release notes for an eventual 1.19.3" [mediawiki/core] (REL1_19) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30912
[22:22:52] 	 what a mess
[22:24:33] 	 I guess we have to rewrite the "newParserTest"
[22:24:36] 	 Change merged: Mwalker; [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30902
[22:24:37] 	 Change merged: Mwalker; [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30897
[22:25:04] 	 I don't like that phrase...
[22:25:31] 	 hashar: we are at it ;)
[22:25:39] 	 hehe
[22:25:56] 	 Platonides: was referring to the PHPUnit wrapper around the parsertests
[22:26:12] 	 yes, I know
[22:26:19] 	 but it's not pretty
[22:26:28] 	 yep, we are working on #3 and #4 currently..
[22:26:44] 	 03(FIXED) REL1_19 tests chokes on parserTests - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41565  +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[22:26:44] 	 JS and C++
[22:27:07] 	 and rewriting it is probably going to cause more problems
[22:28:30] 	 !e CategoryTree
[22:28:30] 	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CategoryTree
[22:28:58] 	 03(FIXED) Android section issues (2.2.2, 2.3.4 and 2.3.5) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41412  +comment (10Arthur Richards)
[22:29:39] 	 New review: Krinkle; "Removing myself as reviewer from this. Don't have time for this." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17519
[22:29:57] 	 03(NEW) Special:LandingCheck on donate.wikimedia.org without any URL parameters is not working - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41566 critical; Wikimedia: Fundraising: Misc.; (b)
[22:30:08] 	 New patchset: Hashar; "Backport translations for the installer from master" [mediawiki/core] (REL1_19) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30834
[22:30:39] 	 New review: Krinkle; "-1: Don't merge!" [mediawiki/extensions/SyntaxHighlight_GeSHi] (master); V: 0 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15781
[22:31:13] 	 New review: Krinkle; "-1: This has problems!" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/6143
[22:31:18] 	 New review: Hashar; "restored patchset 1 to fix dependencies." [mediawiki/core] (REL1_19); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30834
[22:32:26] 	 hashar: nice work on REL1_19
[22:32:48] 	 New patchset: Hashar; "Backport compatible message changes from master" [mediawiki/core] (REL1_19) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30835
[22:33:20] 	 New review: Hashar; "Fixed dependency by rebasing against 30834, patchset 3 (e5600db4)" [mediawiki/core] (REL1_19); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30835
[22:33:36] 	 seems like the Jenkins tests are fixed for it
[22:33:43] 	 still have to fix REL1_18 I guess
[22:35:33] 	 ok, looking at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Engineering/2012-13_Goals -- robla am I missing an easy way to look at just the 3rd quarter for all 14 of these projects?
[22:36:15] 	 New patchset: Hashar; "Increase permitted runtime for testParserTest" [mediawiki/core] (REL1_18) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30914
[22:36:30] 	 03(mod) Special:LandingCheck on donate.wikimedia.org without any URL parameters is not working - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41566  04CRIT->normal; +comment (10MZMcBride)
[22:36:44] 	 New review: Hashar; "REL1_18 is https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30914" [mediawiki/core] (REL1_19) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30908
[22:37:14] 	 New review: Hoo man; "This change is on a good way, the code comments are mostly minor issues. On top of that you need to ..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/3981
[22:37:17] 	 03(mod) Special:LandingCheck on donate.wikimedia.org without any URL parameters is not working - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41566  +comment (10Peter Gehres (WMF))
[22:37:54] 	 sumanah: probably not
[22:38:04] 	 ok, np
[22:39:06] 	 sumanah: valhallasw has a gerrit acct req
[22:39:20] 	 jeremyb: whoo! let me get on that.
[22:39:28] 	 danke
[22:40:48] 	 03(mod) mf-common has table.gallery, but gallery is a div these days. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41509   +patch-in-gerrit; +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman)
[22:41:05] 	 New patchset: MaxSem; "Update MobileFrontend to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf3) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30916
[22:41:13] 	 valhallasw: done!
[22:41:13] 	 1.18 tests are too long, will merge that  tommorrow.
[22:41:16] 	 have a good night everyone!
[22:41:35] 	 valhallasw: https://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Access#Initial_login_and_password_change hit labsconsole, get a temp password, you will be on your way
[22:42:24] 	 New review: Hashar; "Simply changed a comment. Fixed the issue in REL1_19 already and in master a long time ago." [mediawiki/core] (REL1_18); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30914
[22:42:24] 	 Change merged: Hashar; [mediawiki/core] (REL1_18) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30914
[22:42:29] 	 here we have it
[22:42:39] 	 sleeping for real now. :-]
[22:46:25] 	 aude: you've looked at edit conflicts a lot recently right ?
[22:47:37] 	 aude: there is a report of edit conflicts when rollbacking on VP/T. I'm not sure if there is any regression, but probably something to put on the radar.
[22:48:03] 	 andre__: ^
[22:49:56] 	 New patchset: Platonides; "WikitextContentHandlerTest expects the messages to be in English." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30917
[22:51:54] 	 New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "[FileRepo] Changed "publishBatch" to handle failure better." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30750
[22:53:06] 	 03(NEW) Enable Translate on wikidatawiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41567 enhancement; Wikimedia: Extension setup; (sam)
[22:53:32] 	 New patchset: Kaldari; "Use geoiplookup.wikimedia.org for IPv6 users" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30919
[22:53:36] 	 03(NEW) Watchlist icon overlaps search box - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41568 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend (Beta); (jrobson)
[22:58:50] 	 isn't show/hide included in mediawiki now?
[22:59:00] 	 New review: Kaldari; "Going to do this differently" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master); V: 0 C: -2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30919
[22:59:02] 	 how do I use it?  can't find it on the web nor in the software
[22:59:08] 	 New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "[FileRepo] Changed "publishBatch" to handle failure better." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30750
[22:59:27] 	 03(mod) Collapsing broken on small pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41406  +comment (10Max Semenik)
[22:59:31] 	 jaggz: when you say "show/hide" what do you mean?
[22:59:48] 	 in the final page, expandable/collapsable areas
[22:59:55] 	 Blah blah [...more...]
[23:00:00] 	 (show more.. show less)
[23:00:24] 	 jaggz: can you give me an example of a page that has that functionality? then we can look at it together to see how it works
[23:05:08] 	 trying to find one
[23:05:09] 	 I've done them with JS in the page
[23:05:26] 	 not sure if it can be done with css .. actually I don't think it can can it?  that offers hover but no click stuff right?
[23:06:24] 	 jaggz: CSS has no onclick, yes
[23:06:55] 	 well, that's not true
[23:06:57] 	 * fully
[23:08:31] 	 03(mod) Can't see expand arrow in night mode using Wikipedia Beta 1.4beta1 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41562  +comment (10Yuvi Panda)
[23:08:51] 	 03(NEW) Stop parsing HTML twice - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41569 major; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend; (maxsem.wiki)
[23:10:01] 	 Change merged: CSteipp; [mediawiki/core] (REL1_19) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30912
[23:11:09] 	 Change merged: MaxSem; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf3) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30916
[23:13:20] 	 New patchset: Reedy; "Change line separators to \n per rest of project" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30920
[23:15:17] 	 New patchset: Adamw; "DO NOT MERGE - 2-round-trip banner load" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29527
[23:15:29] 	 Okay, I found one page but .. it requires a login..
[23:16:29] 	 New patchset: Adamw; "DO NOT MERGE - 2-round-trip banner load" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29527
[23:17:52] 	 [ click for more inline information ]
[23:18:29] 	 [ click to hide ]
[23:18:40] 	 not sure how compatible that is though.. that's the basic
[23:20:11] 	 jaggz: You shouldn't pass JS code as string... give the span an id and assign a function to the element after
[23:20:26] 	 jaggz: so, if you want that kind of thing in your MediaWiki .... look at http://www.wikimedia.de/wiki/Hauptseite and look at the toolbar on the left, with the arrows
[23:20:28] 	 often people do this sort of thing in the sidebar
[23:20:51] 	 yeah, those are called "accordion" style I believe
[23:21:03] 	 New patchset: Adamw; "DO NOT MERGE - 2-round-trip banner load" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29527
[23:21:20] 	 I'd do it like pages where they say "more".. same exact thing I guess, except text instead of an image to click on
[23:21:32] 	 (I guess their arrow might be text :)
[23:21:57] 	 jaggz: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Gadget_kitchen/Training and https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Gadget_kitchen show you how you can experiment with JS/CSS user scripts within a MediaWiki user account, to play with that sort of functionality easily
[23:22:29] 	 Change merged: CSteipp; [mediawiki/extensions/GeoCrumbs] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30820
[23:22:33] 	 New patchset: MaxSem; "Update MobileFrontend to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30922
[23:23:11] 	 03(mod) mf-common has table.gallery, but gallery is a div these days. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41509  +comment (10Jon)
[23:25:08] 	 New patchset: MaxSem; "Update MobileFrontend to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30923
[23:25:27] 	 Change merged: MaxSem; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30923
[23:26:42] 	 does that help, jaggz?
[23:27:41] 	 it would, if I were to be able to spend the time to do this.. which right now I can't :(
[23:27:54] 	 so.. main thing is, it's possible, but it's not a built-in functionality right now
[23:28:18] 	 and right now I have some vital commitments in life .. can't do the development
[23:28:35] 	 wouldn't want to unless it was contributed to mediawiki's long-term features either.. don't care to do it just for me on my side :)
[23:31:46] 	 jaggz: I'm fairly sure it's possible, I just don't know enough about it. Maybe hoo or Krenair can help you out
[23:31:58] 	 Change abandoned: MaxSem; "(no reason)" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30922
[23:31:59] 	 (how to do expand/collapse JS links in MW)
[23:32:54] 	 no reason?  :)
[23:33:15] 	 That's fairly easy, if the generic links are needed, take a look at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Collapsible_elements
[23:33:55] 	 is jquery in mediawiki by default?  I haven't read anything about it being in here
[23:34:04] 	 yes it is
[23:34:07] 	 cool
[23:34:07] 	 If not, take a look at http://api.jquery.com/toggle-event/ with that it's fairly easy to build stuff like that up
[23:34:09] 	 hoo: aha, thanks
[23:34:13] 	 03(FIXED) Can't see expand arrow in night mode using Wikipedia Beta 1.4beta1 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41562  +comment (10Yuvi Panda)
[23:34:32] 	 I'm also using the rich text editor.. (well, I go back and forth between plain text and the rich editor)
[23:35:02] 	 New review: MarkTraceur; "Anomie, I'm pretty sure it's not going to merge until someone tries changing the patch...." [mediawiki/extensions/ConfirmEdit] (master); V: -1 C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16872
[23:35:13] 	 I'm new to mediawiki.. and I couldn't get side-by-side preview to work.. although the tabbed method (click on Preview to see it) works
[23:35:27] 	 would be nice to have a panel showing the page live as you edited.. imo
[23:35:41] 	 anyway.. not trying to complain.
[23:35:46] 	 jaggz: we are working on a new Visual Editor that will do basically that
[23:36:12] 	 jaggz: try it out as a prototype: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/VisualEditor
[23:36:45] 	 hey, why does the header remain visible in the table example on that page https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Collapsible_elements
[23:36:45] 	 New review: CSteipp; "I think this is missing a sanitization, but haven't set it up for testing yet. I'm going to -1 this ..." [mediawiki/extensions/RelatedArticles] (master); V: 0 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28523
[23:36:49] 	 jaggz: IIRC WikiEditor also has a similar feature you can enable is user prefs
[23:36:52] 	 in*
[23:37:20] 	 jaggz: So that the user knows what to expect in the hidden table
[23:38:02] 	 ahh.. I'm using WikiEditor
[23:38:17] 	 that modified version for x.18
[23:38:51] 	 hoo, no I mean.. what makes the hidden css apply to those other rows only?  the pipe at the start?  {|  ?
[23:39:28] 	 jaggz: Oh no, the JS that hides the content doesn't even see the wikitext, it only gets the parsed HTML
[23:39:36] 	 oh, nice, full page wysiwyg editing.. that's beautiful
[23:39:57] 	 toolbar is a bit sparse, but this is great.. nice job
[23:40:34] 	 marktraceur: which feature are you referring to?  live preview + plain text wiki code?
[23:41:39] 	 jaggz: I believe so, yes
[23:42:37] 	 I can switch between them but haven't seen live preview
[23:42:55] 	 toggle link at the top (which right now shows [ <richtextditor> ]  heh
[23:43:32] 	 the diff between .17 and the 3rd party edit/patch working in .18 is really long.. huge changes..
[23:44:09] 	 diff -r wikieditor wikieditor-.18  I mean
[23:44:54] 	 03(mod) The scripts of some gadgets are not added to their Resource Loader modules on Portuguese Wikipedia (ext.gadget.foo is "empty") - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40288  (10mybugs.mail)
[23:46:50] 	 03(mod) Adding project identification variable to AbuseFilter - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41172  +comment (10Jasper Deng)
[23:49:20] 	 03(mod) Adding project identification variable to AbuseFilter - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41172  +comment (10Ajraddatz)
[23:49:48] 	 New patchset: Massaf; "Restore benefits CSS, tooltips for error messages" [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30752
[23:50:54] 	 New patchset: Massaf; "Restore benefits CSS, tooltips for error messages" [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30752
[23:52:18] 	 03(mod) Adding project identification variable to AbuseFilter - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41172  +comment (10Jasper Deng)
[23:59:06] 	 New patchset: Parent5446; "Added Uri class and Uri Query classes." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22167