[00:01:54] 03(mod) CentralNotice API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32536 +comment (10MZMcBride) [00:04:47] Would it be possible to deploy https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30615 to wmf3? It was imho quite a visible bug on multilingual wikis. [00:05:33] New review: Aaron Schulz; "I'm a little worried about conditional spam as per the bug comments." [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31007 [00:08:40] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "Added script to fix rev_page entries (bug 41649)." [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaMaintenance] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31350 [00:09:41] 03(NEW) document.getElementById("results") is null - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41669 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend; (maxsem.wiki) [00:10:24] New review: SPQRobin; "I don't really understand why the whole branch needed to be reviewed at once, then many bugs don't g..." [mediawiki/core] (Wikidata) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22732 [00:27:00] 03(mod) document.getElementById("results") is null - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41669 +comment (10Jon) [00:29:11] New patchset: Kaldari; "Setting up preferences for Echo" [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31329 [00:36:01] New patchset: Hoo man; "Fixed the doc for $wgTranslateRcFilterDefault" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31358 [00:36:14] Reedy: ^ :/ [00:36:38] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "[JobQueue] Actually use the right job_random value." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31359 [00:36:52] There's no usage of "no-action" in the extension... [00:36:59] Reedy: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/31359/ trivial [00:37:06] $select->addOption( wfMessage( 'translate-rc-translation-filter-no' )->text(), 'noaction' ); [00:37:38] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31359 [00:38:30] Reedy: You're right, it's totally irrelevant what you put there [00:38:37] $wgTranslateRcFilterDefault = 'dsfsf'; even works... [00:39:07] awesomes [00:39:14] Change abandoned: Hoo man; "Every value for noaction works atm" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31358 [00:39:53] but why isn't it working on wikidata then, bah [00:44:07] 03(mod) Wikibase Repo: Catchable fatal error: Argument 2 passed to Wikibase\RepoHooks::onPageContentLanguage() must be an instance of Language, string given - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41667 normal->major (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [00:46:32] Reedy: Any idea? I'm tired and about to go to bed... it works in my test wiki... [00:46:50] No idea [00:46:51] Poke Nikerabbit later [00:50:22] 03(mod) regression: thumbtime=0 no longer works, defaults to middle thumbnail - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39014 +comment (10Sage Ross) [00:50:49] 03(mod) regression: thumbtime parameter no longer works, videos default to middle thumbnail - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39014 summary (10Sage Ross) [00:54:29] 03(mod) regression: thumbtime parameter no longer works, videos default to middle thumbnail - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39014 +comment (10Sage Ross) [00:55:17] 03(NEW) Dynamic sections: URL remains unchanged - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41670 major; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend (Beta); (maxsem.wiki) [00:59:07] New patchset: Pgehres; "Update CentralNotice to master. Fixing Bug 41632." [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31360 [00:59:25] Change merged: Pgehres; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31360 [01:01:16] 14(DUP) user::addToDatabase hit a key conflict but row doesn't exist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41659 +comment (10Matt Walker) [01:01:21] 03(mod) Exception: User::addToDatabase: hit a key conflict attempting to insert a user row, but then it doesn't exist when we select it! - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41609 +comment (10Matt Walker) [01:10:06] New patchset: SPQRobin; "Simplify and improve page content language functions" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31361 [01:18:14] New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Declare jquery.json as a dependency" [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31362 [01:18:14] New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Change 'optional' => 'required'; fix tests" [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31363 [01:19:13] Change merged: Ori.livneh; [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31362 [01:27:45] New patchset: SPQRobin; "Simplify and improve page content language functions" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31361 [01:48:14] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "[JobQueue] Added support for retrying jobs when runners die." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29736 [02:01:59] weird, when i run the same abuse filter test on given page or given user, it matches the page change, but when i run it on recent changes, where this page change still is, it doesn't match it [02:02:49] although it obviously should as well [02:02:54] any idea why? [02:20:00] New review: Krinkle; "-2 for the magic map pitfal and cross-module css leakages." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23674 [02:27:59] Hi - does anybody know about MediaWiki's compatibility with PHP? Is it better suited for PHP 5.3, or 5.4, or can it work equally with both? [02:33:40] ![[ Compatibility | Yaron [02:33:40] Yaron: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Compatibility [02:33:57] 5.3.2+ [02:34:07] Krinkle - thanks! I was looking for a page on mediawiki.org. [02:34:21] 5.4 will be better as it will use more native functions instead of polyfills [02:34:26] (e.g. json_encode and what not) [02:35:02] json_encode is a bad example [02:35:37] Krinkle - well, I upgraded my server to PHP 5.4, and it's using MW 1.19, and the mail functionality is giving a bunch of errors/warningss. [02:36:01] (Which I assume are due to the higher PHP version.) [02:36:10] Yaron: Software can't magically know what / where you mail server is [02:36:12] Yaron: Do you have mail configured in php.ini and/or in LocalSettings.php [02:36:20] No, that's not PHP or MW version related [02:36:44] Krinkle: here's one error message: "Deprecated: Assigning the return value of new by reference is deprecated in /home/yaron57/php/Mail.php on line 154" [02:37:18] I don't know where this is getting called from, but I assume it's from the MW code, like UserMailer.php. [02:37:36] That's just a loose =& somewhere [02:37:40] nothing to worry about [02:38:00] But yes, that should be fixed, though it is a deprecation warning which means it works fine but a newer method is available. [02:38:49] Yeah, okay... the mailing stopped working, but I guess it's probably unrelated to these specific warnings - it's probably a php.ini issue or some such. [02:39:49] Krinkle: do you think it's worth reporting those bugs, or do the relevant people probably know about it already? [02:40:06] There is a whole lot of =& in MW (I just ran a quick search) [02:40:32] I don't see an existing but about it [02:40:34] bug* [02:40:43] Feel free to report one [02:40:46] Alright - report I shall. [02:41:10] Yaron: but just to be sure, don't worry about it. Its not something you should go back to php 5.3 for [02:41:43] If it bothers you, you may want to lower the error reporting on your production server to not report deprecation warnings [02:42:15] Yeah, okay - I was thinking that I should switch back, but now I'll just stay with this one and try to fix the mailing issue. [02:42:28] Lowering the reporting is not a bad idea either. [02:43:17] they are useful for the mediawiki developers, but I guess at this stage they'll only confuse you [02:43:24] (since they are not the cause of the mailing issue) [02:43:51] Right. [02:46:23] Yaron: Just checking, but are you reporting that bug? [02:46:42] Krinkle: I haven't yet, but I'm planning to. [02:46:48] okay, great :) [02:57:51] Krinkle: I just looked up the whole pass-by-reference thing, and this page says that in PHP 5.4 it leads to a fatal error: http://php.net/manual/en/language.references.pass.php [02:58:20] That's something else [02:58:29] Oh... yeah. Oops. Never mind. [02:58:33] Passing by reference is in function signature and function invocation [02:58:35] not variable assignment [02:58:52] foo( &$bar ) vs. $foo &= $bar; [02:59:54] Yaron: Though I doubt it, if you see that happen. Definitely do report that too, that'd a serious problem that can cause mw to fail on many servers. [03:00:48] Right - well, I assume someone would have experienced that already, if it were there in the code. [03:04:19] 03(NEW) Assigning by reference ("=&") should be removed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41671 normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (yaron57) [03:19:38] 03(mod) PHP Deprecation: Assigning by reference ("=&") should be removed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41671 normal->minor; summary; +comment (10Krinkle) [03:19:39] 03(mod) Code quality issues (and other stuff that sucks) (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/700 (10Krinkle) [03:39:54] 03(mod) broken javascript on SquidReportPageViewsPerCountryBreakdownHuge - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41663 (10Diederik van Liere) [03:41:13] 03(mod) Show IE 8 compatibility view separately in SquidReportClients.htm - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24506 (10Diederik van Liere) [03:41:59] 03(mod) stats.wikimedia.org needs an API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/26352 (10Diederik van Liere) [03:46:16] New patchset: Parent5446; "(bug 32496) Added userid parameter to API block/unblock." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17588 [04:12:53] 03(mod) improve edit summary when creating an item - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41626 +comment (10Jérémie Roquet) [05:03:13] New patchset: Spage; "Add interactive validation of form fields" [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30755 [05:09:55] New patchset: Santhosh; "i18n updates for jquery.uls" [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31366 [05:33:40] 03(NEW) Drop possessive in user toolbar labels - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41672 normal; MediaWiki: Interface; (ori) [05:33:51] New patchset: Spage; "Add interactive validation of form fields" [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30755 [05:45:26] 14(INVALID) [Fatal] Warning: explode() expects parameter 2 to be string, array given in /www/dev.translatewiki.net/w/includes/logging/LogPage.php on line 262 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41661 +comment (10Alexandre Emsenhuber [IAlex]) [05:53:29] 03(FIXED) IME selector always open in insert link textbox - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41550 +comment (10Santhosh Thottingal) [05:58:26] 03(mod) Drop possessive in user toolbar labels - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41672 +comment (10Isarra) [06:23:05] * Isarra pokes TimStarling with a carrot. [06:25:17] Anyone know how Commons made the default headers when uploading files be {{int:license-header}} and such instead of the default just using the localised term directly? [06:29:32] New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Correct URL in comment; currently points to wrong post" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31368 [06:32:46] 03(mod) Drop possessive in user toolbar labels - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41672 +design +easy; +comment (10MZMcBride) [06:59:32] 03(FIXED) Wrong parsing of [[MediaWiki:Expand templates title]] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39958 +comment (10Alexandre Emsenhuber [IAlex]) [07:01:04] 03(NEW) Bug in Jenkins-tests (MediaWiki-Tests-Databaseless) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41673 normal; Wikimedia: Git/Gerrit; (jan) [07:01:35] 03(mod) Bug in Jenkins-tests (MediaWiki-Tests-Databaseless) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41673 (10Jan Luca) [07:06:59] 03(mod) Bug in Jenkins-tests (MediaWiki-Tests-Databaseless) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41673 normal->major (10Jan Luca) [07:10:37] 03(NEW) How to embed a button to display on every page? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41674 normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (xsile) [07:11:05] 03(mod) Rename Special:Version to Special:About - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41555 +comment (10Isarra) [07:37:02] 03(NEW) blacklist narayam from Captcha & username field - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41675 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Narayam; (wikiodisha1) [07:42:05] 03(mod) blacklist narayam from Captcha & username field - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41675 +comment (10Subhashish Panigrahi) [07:48:51] New review: Nikerabbit; "hmm?" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31358 [07:48:53] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31366 [07:53:27] New patchset: Tpt; "(bug 40509) Make Special:CreateItem handle site and page params." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31308 [07:53:27] 03(mod) Rename Special:Version to Special:About - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41555 +comment (10Nemo_bis) [07:54:55] New review: Tpt; "Patch set 3: Update the save code in order to doesn't allow to add links to unknown wiki and show er..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31308 [07:57:50] 03(mod) Add the extensions Translate and TranslateNotifications on Wikidata - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41585 +comment (10Niklas Laxström) [08:01:58] New patchset: Tpt; "(bug 40509) Make Special:CreateItem handle site and page params." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31308 [08:11:02] New patchset: Nikerabbit; "(bug 41337) Fix fatal error occuring in Special:Preferences" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31321 [08:15:44] 03(NEW) IME not attached to new DOM text field - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41676 normal; MediaWiki extensions: UniversalLanguageSelector; (s.mazeland) [08:24:24] 03(mod) IME not attached to new DOM text field - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41676 +comment (10Niklas Laxström) [08:26:08] 03(NEW) MathJax displays raw HTML for inside attributes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41677 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Math; (listenleser) [08:26:57] 03(mod) IME not attached to new DOM text field - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41676 +comment (10Niklas Laxström) [08:43:08] New patchset: Pastakhov; "corrected the name of the month" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31370 [08:45:12] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "As far as I undcerstand the system, getPageViewLanguage needs to be in the ContentHandler. Only the ..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31361 [08:47:46] New patchset: J; "Allow ExtractThumbParameters before local regexp" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31371 [08:50:47] Change merged: Nikerabbit; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31370 [08:51:48] New patchset: J; "fix thumbtime parsing to work with 404 handler" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31372 [08:55:38] New patchset: J; "fix thumbtime parsing to work with 404 handler" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31372 [08:59:12] 03(VERIFIED) [Fatal] Warning: explode() expects parameter 2 to be string, array given in /www/dev.translatewiki.net/w/includes/logging/LogPage.php on line 262 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41661 (10Nemo_bis) [09:09:35] New patchset: Henning Snater; "Re-enabling quick tabbing out of site id input box" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31272 [09:18:03] Change merged: IAlex; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31368 [09:20:35] Change merged: IAlex; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31305 [09:32:59] 03(mod) Transclusion from pages built by a template - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/21339 +comment (10Merlijn van Deen) [09:39:57] New review: Lupo; "Two questions:" [mediawiki/tools/mwdumper] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30932 [09:47:16] 03(FIXED) Wikitech.wikimedia.org: The table 'mw_watchlist' is full (localhost) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41651 +comment (10Raimond Spekking) [09:47:29] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "Wouldn't it be better if this would tie into the existing OAI extension? It already has some hooks f..." [mediawiki/extensions/ProofreadPage] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28904 [09:59:05] 03(NEW) "Undelete" (aka "Restore) is missing from the caction menu - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41678 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; (jeblad) [10:05:51] New review: Bean49; "Re:" [mediawiki/tools/mwdumper] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30932 [10:07:00] 03(NEW) "Restore" should have an option for removing offending sitelinks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41679 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; (jeblad) [10:08:19] 03(mod) Ability to enter edit summaries - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41490 +comment (10Nikola Smolenski) [10:09:31] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "My impression was that PDO's SQLite driver is based upon SQLite3. Or is it using a native library? A..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30994 [10:09:39] 03(NEW) Improve translation docs for claims - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41680 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; (aude.wiki) [10:14:57] 03(NEW) Add a data-argument to the Special:CreateEntity that allow more complex entities to be created - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41681 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; (jeblad) [10:18:10] New review: Siebrand; "FYI: it's preferred to make translation contributions through translatewiki.net. Find the extension ..." [mediawiki/extensions/AccessControl] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31369 [10:19:45] New review: Siebrand; "btw, who owns this extension anyway? There have not been any commits to it other than L10n or repoad..." [mediawiki/extensions/AccessControl] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31369 [10:25:58] 03(mod) Data too long for column 'rev_comment' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/13721 normal->04BLOCKER (10Bean49) [10:31:16] New patchset: Nikerabbit; "Work on ApiTranslationReview" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24942 [10:35:35] New review: Markus Kroetzsch; "Regarding whitespace changes: my editor is doing this automatically now. Pros and cons, obviously. A..." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31279 [10:40:52] 03(FIXED) inverse property no longer working in #concept in v1.6.1 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31118 +comment (10Markus Krötzsch) [10:41:28] 03(FIXED) SMW: Crash in runJobs.php if _LEDT is enabled because Title::getLatestRevID returns zero for existing page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35962 +comment (10Markus Krötzsch) [10:46:09] Hi All [10:46:50] I requsted to install extension on urdu wikipedia but cdnt be processed. [10:47:21] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41563 [10:48:34] Hello! Anyone can help me?? [10:52:18] 03(NEW) Change Irc Channel namming of wikidata RC in irc.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41682 minor; Wikimedia: IRC; (crochet.david) [10:54:12] 03(mod) Data too long for column 'rev_comment' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/13721 04BLOCKER->major; +comment (10Andre Klapper) [10:54:31] 03(mod) MathJax displays raw HTML for inside attributes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41677 +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [10:55:00] 03(mod) Installation of Extension: Collection on Urdu Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41563 +shell; +comment (10Dereckson) [10:59:04] 03(NEW) Install xdiff extension on gallium - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41683 minor; Wikimedia: Testing Infrastructure; (innocentkiller) [11:04:06] 03(mod) Change Irc Channel namming of wikidata RC in irc.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41682 +comment (10Hydra) [11:07:10] 03(NEW) Wikidata RC to #wikidata.wikimedia instead of #wikidata.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41684 normal; Wikimedia: IRC; (aude.wiki) [11:08:06] 03(NEW) SMW 1.8 / MW 1.21 Call to undefined method Job::extractBlob() - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41685 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; (jamesin.hongkong.1) [11:08:30] 03(mod) Change Irc Channel namming of wikidata RC in irc.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41682 +comment (10Hydra) [11:08:30] 14(DUP) Wikidata RC to #wikidata.wikimedia instead of #wikidata.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41684 +comment (10Hydra) [11:11:38] New patchset: Mwjames; "(Bug 41685) Replace Job::extractBlob() in SMW_SpecialSMWAdmin.php" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31373 [11:12:00] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "Fix handling of striongs containing \0 in sqlite." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30994 [11:12:16] 03(ASSIGNED) SMW 1.8 / MW 1.21 Call to undefined method Job::extractBlob() - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41685 +comment (10MWJames) [11:12:56] 03(mod) Change wikidata RC to #wikidata.wikimedia from #wikidata.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41682 summary (10Andre Klapper) [11:14:36] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "Filed as https://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=63419." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30994 [11:27:57] 03(FIXED) ar.wikipedia.org logo for 200,000 article milestone - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41358 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [11:30:27] 03(mod) Installer defaults to zh language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41266 +i18n (10Andre Klapper) [11:30:53] New review: Matmarex; "Krinkle: fixed the issues, thanks." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23674 [11:32:06] New patchset: Matmarex; "(bug 17808) (bug 21167) use real links for search suggestions" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23674 [11:34:39] 03(mod) Sometimes wikisyntax for lists is interpreted inside 
 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41531  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[11:35:02] 	 New review: Daniel Werner; "Great!" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31272
[11:35:02] 	 Change merged: Daniel Werner; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31272
[11:35:05] 	 03(mod) Core tests die with fatal error: Undefined index: sdfsedtgsrdysftu - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41491  summary (10Andre Klapper)
[11:35:28] 	 03(mod) Add a data-argument to the Special:CreateEntity that allow more complex entities to be created - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41681  +comment (10Daniel Kinzler)
[11:35:36] 	 03(UNCONFIRMED) FlaggedRevs not reviewing? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38745  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[11:36:00] 	 03(mod) Highlight searched key words on page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35602  (10Andre Klapper)
[11:37:22] 	 03(mod) [Regression] General AbuseFilter failings after upgrade - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41247  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[11:38:29] 	 03(UNCONFIRMED) Enchant Suggestion mode does not work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34707  (10Andre Klapper)
[11:38:45] 	 03(mod) Convert to protocol relative link — report line in Special:GlobalBlockList - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36145   +patch-in-gerrit (10Andre Klapper)
[11:38:49] 	 03(mod) Ability to enter edit summaries - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41490  +comment (10Daniel Kinzler)
[11:39:24] 	 03(mod) EducationProgram: Fatal "Argument passed to ContentHandler::getContentText must implement Content" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41496   +patch-in-gerrit (10Andre Klapper)
[11:40:39] 	 03(mod) "Undelete" (aka "Restore) is missing from the caction menu - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41678  +comment (10Daniel Kinzler)
[11:41:13] 	 03(mod) initialization of the Language object is very heavy - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41103   +wikidata (10Andre Klapper)
[11:41:13] 	 14(DUP) Language objects should only load messages when needed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41596  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[11:41:15] 	 03(mod) initialization of the Language object is very heavy - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41103  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[11:42:18] 	 03(mod) Page moves of files on commons slow - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41612   +performance; +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[11:42:34] 	 03(mod) @group Database not honored with MediaWikiLangTestCase childs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41673  summary; +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[11:43:32] 	 New review: Daniel Kinzler; "I agree on the branch review topic. Wasn't my choice. Though it was kind of tricky, because when I s..." [mediawiki/core] (Wikidata) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22732
[11:44:00] 	 03(mod) Install xdiff extension on gallium - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41683  +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[11:44:52] 	 New patchset: Nikerabbit; "Update logging to latest standards, including pretty formatting." [mediawiki/extensions/Renameuser] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/5288
[11:46:22] 	 AaronSchulz: please have a look at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/5288 again
[11:49:30] 	 03(mod) Sometimes wikisyntax for lists is interpreted inside 
 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41531  +comment (10Michael M.)
[11:50:11] 	 New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "Make ApiBotEditTest robust agnst non-sequential IDs." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30963
[11:50:43] 	 New review: Daniel Kinzler; "this is a shot in the dark, hope it fixes the issue." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30963
[11:51:04] 	 Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30803
[11:55:54] 	 03(mod) MathJax displays raw HTML for  inside attributes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41677  +comment (10Michael M.)
[11:56:00] 	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "implemented isCountable in entityContent" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31374
[11:56:43] 	 03(mod) Bad content model: expected javascript but got wikitext. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41658  +comment (10Daniel Kinzler)
[11:56:43] 	 14(INVALID) How to embed a button to display on every page? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41674  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[11:58:21] 	 03(FIXED) Undeletion fails - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41617  +comment (10Daniel Kinzler)
[11:59:16] 	 14(WFM) No handler for model 'w'' registered in $wgContentHandlers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41309  +comment (10Daniel Kinzler)
[12:01:53] 	 03(mod) TextContent expects a string in the constructor. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41303  +comment (10Daniel Kinzler)
[12:02:09] 	 03(mod) Sometimes wikisyntax for lists is interpreted inside 
 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41531  (10Andre Klapper)
[12:04:45] 	 New patchset: Henning Snater; "Introducing site selector jQuery widget" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31375
[12:10:02] 	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "minor style improvements" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31376
[12:12:54] 	 03(NEW) Ability to filter recent changes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41686 enhancement; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; (smolensk)
[12:13:22] 	 03(mod) Upload wizard doesn't understand all error codes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27305  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[12:13:36] 	 New patchset: Aude; "add $wgWBExternalRecentChanges setting to enable or disable the external RC stuff" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30948
[12:14:08] 	 03(mod) Renaming user causes conflicting usernames in deleted file histories - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33452  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[12:15:30] 	 03(mod) Access to HTTP 404 logs for Wiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32514  normal->15enhancement;  +analytics (10Andre Klapper)
[12:17:25] 	 03(mod) RSS feed broken in Safari - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29850  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[12:18:01] 	 03(mod) Need help fixing failed move (database corrupt?) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35123  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[12:18:34] 	 03(mod) Transwiki import to multilingual (old) wikisource broken: fix $wgImportSources - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32411  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[12:19:39] 	 03(mod) Set Arabic text to tahoma, sans serif - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31167  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[12:20:52] 	 03(mod) PHP Deprecation: Assigning by reference ("=&") should be removed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41671   +newphp (10Andre Klapper)
[12:21:26] 	 03(NEW) A nicer edit summary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41687 minor; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; (smolensk)
[12:22:35] 	 03(mod) Change wikidata RC to #wikidata.wikimedia from #wikidata.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41682  +comment (10Krenair)
[12:23:38] 	 03(mod) regression: thumbtime parameter no longer works, videos default to middle thumbnail - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39014   +code-update-regression (10Andre Klapper)
[12:25:32] 	 03(mod) Installation of Extension: Collection on Urdu Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41563  +comment (10Muhammad Shuaib)
[12:26:13] 	 03(mod) Improve translation docs for claims - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41680   +i18n (10Nemo_bis)
[12:26:13] 	 03(mod) Occasional segmentation fault on PDF thumbnail generation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41665  (10Andre Klapper)
[12:27:07] 	 03(mod) Improve translation docs for claims - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41680  (10Nemo_bis)
[12:27:19] 	 03(mod) @group Database not honored with MediaWikiLangTestCase childs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41673  +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[12:27:36] 	 03(mod) Fatal error: Call to a member function msg() on a non-object at Preferences.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41337   +patch-in-gerrit (10Andre Klapper)
[12:30:06] 	 03(mod) Kill $wgCleanupPresentationalAttributes from MediaWiki core - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40632   +patch-in-gerrit (10Andre Klapper)
[12:30:06] 	 03(mod) Don't use hacks to replicate a browser function, either let align="" pass through or not; in HTML5 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40329  (10Andre Klapper)
[12:30:45] 	 03(mod) Data lost when moving page? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/20560   +testme (10Andre Klapper)
[12:33:08] 	 03(mod) mobile site se.m.wikimedia.org does not work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40455  normal->major (10Sumana Harihareswara)
[12:35:03] 	 03(mod) JobQueue not working together with ReplaceText extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41656  (10Andre Klapper)
[12:35:03] 	 03(mod) Bugs affecting translatewiki.net (errors from MediaWiki master) (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39480  (10Andre Klapper)
[12:35:22] 	 New review: Daniel Kinzler; "please add a test case" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31374
[12:39:02] 	 03(mod) mobile site se.m.wikimedia.org does not work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40455  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[12:39:17] 	 03(NEW) Buggy $.unique function fails for empty arrays, breaking other scripts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41688 normal; MediaWiki extensions: TimedMediaHandler; (pleasestand)
[12:41:24] 	 03(mod) @group Database not honored with MediaWikiLangTestCase childs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41673  +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[12:44:46] 	 New patchset: Liangent; "(bug 37176) Localize autosummary of page protecting" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9359
[12:48:13] 	 New review: Tpt; "This repository will provide the data stored in index pages and the repository of the OAI extension ..." [mediawiki/extensions/ProofreadPage] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28904
[12:50:23] 	 03(mod) initialization of the Language object is very heavy - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41103  +comment (10Daniel Kinzler)
[12:51:42] 	 03(mod) File history missing during Deletion/Restore - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41615  +comment (10Daniel Kinzler)
[12:53:24] 	 New review: Daniel Friesen; "What about the situation where a wiki has tweaked their install to support comments longer than 255 ..." [mediawiki/tools/mwdumper] (master) C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30932
[12:53:25] 	 Change merged: Daniel Werner; [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31143
[12:53:41] 	 03(mod) Mediawiki Timedtext allows for / - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32155  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[13:00:15] 	 New patchset: Tpt; "(bug 38498) Add of an OAI-PMH API for index pages (Special:ProofreadIndexOai) + a small metadata typing system." [mediawiki/extensions/ProofreadPage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28904
[13:00:53] 	 New review: Tpt; "Patch set 5: $wgEmergencyContact is used as admin email adress." [mediawiki/extensions/ProofreadPage] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28904
[13:03:13] 	 03(WONTFIX) Uploading file with a slash in name removes all letters preceding it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41190  +comment (10Brad Jorsch)
[13:03:53] 	 03(mod) When editing sitelinks, target pages are suggested in a misleading order - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41635  summary (10Daniel Kinzler)
[13:07:50] 	 New review: Nikerabbit; "There is stylize.php in code-utils repo." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31279
[13:09:50] 	 03(mod) When editing sitelinks, target pages are suggested in a misleading order - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41635  +comment (10Daniel Kinzler)
[13:12:50] 	 03(mod) regression: thumbtime parameter no longer works, videos default to middle thumbnail - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39014  +comment (10Jan Gerber)
[13:14:06] 	 New review: Daniel Kinzler; "@Tpt ok, I now see that this repository will contain entities on a different level (it's about the t..." [mediawiki/extensions/ProofreadPage] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28904
[13:15:27] 	 Change merged: TheDJ; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28665
[13:15:33] 	 Platonides: are you still updating stylize.php? it has some issues with ///< comments and anonymous functions
[13:15:57] 	 03(FIXED) Editing textarea overflows out of bodyContent div - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40610  (10Derk-Jan Hartman)
[13:16:31] 	 03(mod) Fix uses of width: 100%; with borders - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34557  +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman)
[13:16:39] 	 I used {{mypage}} to include a page, but how can I edit the original page now ?
[13:18:08] 	 03(mod) Editing textarea overflows out of bodyContent div - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40610  +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman)
[13:18:08] 	 03(mod) Fix uses of width: 100%; with borders - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34557  (10Derk-Jan Hartman)
[13:19:13] 	 03(mod) Editing textarea overflows out of bodyContent div - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40610  +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman)
[13:21:25] 	 nobody knows ? :(
[13:21:30] 	 Change merged: IAlex; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31376
[13:21:57] 	 Insayne: you go to the title of the page.
[13:22:52] 	 New patchset: Nikerabbit; "Stylize" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31377
[13:22:53] 	 Insayne huh?
[13:23:02] 	 it doesnt seem to work though...
[13:23:02] 	 Insayne just open it and click edit
[13:23:41] 	 well thats my issue, it still only shows there {{linkedpage}}
[13:25:19] 	 well that's what's there. You transclude a template in output. (not in authoring)
[13:25:35] 	 so how can I reauthor it / edit it ?
[13:25:43] 	 you edit Template:linkedpage
[13:25:54] 	 thanks! thats what i forgot :D
[13:27:35] 	 New patchset: Platonides; "Fix handling of strings containing \0 in SQLite." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30994
[13:30:27] 	 New review: Platonides; "I tweaked the commments/messages a bit. This is at +2 level for me now. Feel free to approve if you'..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30994
[13:31:56] 	 New review: Helder.wiki; "Just to be sure: what will happen once this is live?" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31290
[13:34:06] 	 03(NEW) Internal error when changing a user talk page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41689 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Echo; (krenair)
[13:38:48] 	 sumanah, I saw you asked me to review one of the pending Echo changes
[13:38:48] 	 DanielK_WMDE: hi! got a moment?
[13:39:00] 	 I was planning to test them all anyway
[13:39:13] 	 Unfortunately https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41689 is stopping me from doing much at the moment
[13:39:28] 	 Krenair: ah! ok, so I don't need to manually add you to Echo stuff? I shall endeavor to remember that
[13:39:44] 	 Nope, I'm watching Echo in my gerrit preferences
[13:39:47] 	 rockin'.
[13:39:52] 	 :)
[13:47:00] 	 03(mod) Lohit Punjabi font problems - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40473  +comment (10tari buttar)
[13:53:12] 	 New patchset: TheDJ; "Fix width of edit page elements after merge of I42f42654." [mediawiki/extensions/Vector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31378
[13:54:07] 	 03(NEW) Wikimania2010wiki needs to be re-locked - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41690 normal; Wikimedia: Site configuration; (wikimedia.bugs)
[13:55:23] 	 03(mod) Lohit Punjabi font problems - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40473  +comment (10Zarienah Kaur)
[13:57:32] 	 03(mod) Wikimania2010wiki needs to be re-locked - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41690   +shell; +comment (10Snowolf)
[13:57:49] 	 03(mod) Lohit Punjabi font problems - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40473  +comment (10Santhosh Thottingal)
[14:01:45] 	 03(NEW) Abuse filter inconsistent matching between testing and real checking - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41691 major; MediaWiki extensions: AbuseFilter; (danny.b)
[14:03:13] 	 03(mod) Lohit Punjabi font problems - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40473  +comment (10Zarienah Kaur)
[14:04:37] 	 03(mod) Set Arabic text to tahoma, sans serif - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31167  +comment (10Taha)
[14:09:22] 	 03(mod) [Regression] General AbuseFilter failings after upgrade - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41247  +comment (10Malafaya)
[14:10:03] 	 New review: Hashar; "The data provider seems to be run before tests are filtered. Consider hardcoding the values instead ..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31067
[14:12:30] 	 03(NEW) TimedText namespace is using CamelCase for no good reason - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41692 normal; MediaWiki extensions: TimedMediaHandler; (hartman.wiki)
[14:13:14] 	 can i somehow set the width of the contents box ?
[14:13:31] 	 03(mod) Abuse filter inconsistent matching between testing and real checking - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41691  +comment (10Liangent)
[14:13:48] 	 in chrome (browser) it does ugly \n's that I don't wish to see :P
[14:15:21] 	 03(mod) IE video tag fallback message should be more visually appealing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41646  normal->15enhancement (10Sumana Harihareswara)
[14:15:57] 	 03(mod) Wikimania2010wiki needs to be re-locked - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41690  +comment (10Krenair)
[14:15:58] 	 03(mod) leaving fullscreen, page should scroll to video - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41650  minor->15enhancement (10Sumana Harihareswara)
[14:17:20] 	 andre__: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?list_id=157047&resolution=---&resolution=LATER&resolution=DUPLICATE&chfieldto=Now&query_format=advanced&chfield=[Bug%20creation]&chfieldfrom=2012-11-01&component=TimedMediaHandler&product=MediaWiki%20extensions
[14:18:15] 	 New review: Daniel Kinzler; "merging as per platonides" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30994
[14:18:16] 	 Change merged: Daniel Kinzler; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30994
[14:19:18] 	 03(mod) Buggy $.unique function fails for empty arrays, breaking other scripts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41688  +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara)
[14:19:37] 	 03(mod) TimedText namespace is using CamelCase for no good reason - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41692   +easy (10Andre Klapper)
[14:19:55] 	 03(mod) Buggy $.unique function fails for empty arrays, breaking other scripts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41688  (10Sumana Harihareswara)
[14:20:13] 	 plop
[14:20:59] 	 sumanah: back now, what's up?
[14:21:29] 	 03(mod) Abuse filter inconsistent matching between testing and real checking - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41691  +comment (10Danny B.)
[14:22:54] 	 hashar: is there any way to instruct phpunit to run multiple tests at once?
[14:22:55] 	 03(mod) IE7: poster frame not scaled to visible area - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41647   +easy; +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[14:23:12] 	 it seems to run only the first file provided in cli... that makes debugging state leakage between tests impossible
[14:24:00] 	 03(mod) if seekbar has been disabled in embedded view, fullscreening does not reveal seekbar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41652  minor->normal; summary (10Sumana Harihareswara)
[14:24:37] 	 New patchset: Hashar; "raise timeout for WikiPage tests" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31380
[14:25:08] 	 03(NEW) Support short-circuit bool ops - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41693 normal; MediaWiki extensions: AbuseFilter; (liangent)
[14:25:17] 	 New patchset: Hashar; "raise timeout for WikiPage tests" [mediawiki/core] (REL1_20) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31381
[14:25:22] 	 New review: Hashar; "fix tests on jenkins" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31380
[14:25:23] 	 Change merged: Hashar; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31380
[14:25:38] 	 New review: Hashar; "fix tests in jenkins" [mediawiki/core] (REL1_20); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31381
[14:25:39] 	 Change merged: Hashar; [mediawiki/core] (REL1_20) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31381
[14:25:50] 	 New patchset: Hashar; "Backport compatible message changes from master" [mediawiki/core] (REL1_20) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30951
[14:25:55] 	 Nikerabbit: make a @group that contains the tests in question
[14:26:09] 	 not pretty, but it works :)
[14:26:17] 	 03(FIXED) Wikitech's MediaWiki installation should be updated - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37317  +comment (10MZMcBride)
[14:27:16] 	 Nikerabbit: what daniel said : add them to a @group  :-]
[14:27:32] 	 Nikerabbit: it might be possible to craft a test suite in suite.xml but never bothered to use that
[14:27:32] 	 03(mod) Support short-circuit bool ops - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41693  +comment (10Liangent)
[14:28:21] 	 ugh
[14:28:33] 	 hashar: and why is database not cleared between runs if I use --repeat N
[14:28:43] 	 I have no idea what  --repeat is for
[14:28:54] 	 is that from phpunit or from our phpunit.php wrapper ? 
[14:29:13] 	 phpunit itself
[14:30:07] 	 andre__: https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Staff?showall=1
[14:30:07] 	 I guess our test classes do not properly teardown the db
[14:30:07] 	 DanielK_WMDE: I have a silly story to tell you in 10 min when I am off the phone
[14:30:32] 	 andre__: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Platform_Engineering
[14:30:52] 	 03(mod) Abuse filter inconsistent matching between testing and real checking - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41691  +comment (10Liangent)
[14:32:28] 	 03(NEW) Add support for multiple types of subtitle services - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41694 enhancement; MediaWiki extensions: TimedMediaHandler; (hartman.wiki)
[14:33:04] 	 03(mod) Abuse filter inconsistent matching between testing and real checking - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41691  +comment (10Liangent)
[14:36:24] 	 03(NEW) Improve the keyboard navigation for TMH - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41695 normal; MediaWiki extensions: TimedMediaHandler; (hartman.wiki)
[14:36:33] 	 New review: Hashar; "rebased on top of https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/31381/ which raise the timeout for the failing ..." [mediawiki/core] (REL1_20); V: -1 C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30951
[14:37:04] 	 03(mod) Abuse filter inconsistent matching between testing and real checking - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41691  +comment (10Danny B.)
[14:38:27] 	 I love it. I finally got URI escaping to work in a Lua module, and the first (now-working) link I clicked took me to Bugzilla, where the quip was " If in doubt, escape moar"
[14:38:59] 	 In less important news, sumanah, the maintainers page now has more working links
[14:40:55] 	 New patchset: Hashar; "Document what ParserOutput::setProperty() is for" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28971
[14:41:52] 	 hashar: is the database cleared up between different unit test files?
[14:43:25] 	 03(NEW) Video thumbs are not accessible to the visually impaired - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41696 normal; MediaWiki extensions: TimedMediaHandler; (hartman.wiki)
[14:43:25] 	 03(mod) Improve the keyboard navigation for TMH - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41695  (10Derk-Jan Hartman)
[14:44:31] 	 We really need an accessibility cop for every new project :D
[14:44:48] 	 New patchset: Zfilipin; "Run the tests every day at 8pm and 11pm UTC" [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31383
[14:44:54] 	 well, i suggested that three years ago
[14:45:05] 	 we even started the accessibility project
[14:45:28] 	 however, nobody in the foundation took care :-(
[14:45:42] 	 AaronSchulz: is it intented that jobqueue does hunderds of queries like:
[14:45:55] 	 Danny_B|backup: btw, i'm trying to write http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Accessibility_guide_for_developers
[14:45:58] 	 4.8368  89.0M  Query sandwiki (635) (slave): SELECT /* JobQueueDB::claimRandom 127.0.0.1 */  *  FROM `unittest_job`  WHERE job_cmd = 'MessageIndexRebuildJob' AND job_token = '' AND (job_random >= '667883970')  ORDER BY job_random ASC LIMIT 1  
[14:46:02] 	 4.8373  89.0M  Query sandwiki (636) (slave): SELECT /* JobQueueDB::claimRandom 127.0.0.1 */  *  FROM `unittest_job`  WHERE job_cmd = 'MessageIndexRebuildJob' AND job_token = '' AND (job_random <= '667883970')  ORDER BY job_random DESC LIMIT 1  
[14:46:12] 	 4.8378  89.0M  Query sandwiki (637) (slave): SELECT /* JobQueueDB::claimRandom 127.0.0.1 */  *  FROM `unittest_job`  WHERE job_cmd = 'null' AND job_token = '' AND (job_random <= '779066369')  ORDER BY job_random DESC LIMIT 1  
[14:46:12] 	 4.8384  89.0M  Query sandwiki (638) (slave): SELECT /* JobQueueDB::claimRandom 127.0.0.1 */  *  FROM `unittest_job`  WHERE job_cmd = 'null' AND job_token = '' AND (job_random >= '779066369')  ORDER BY job_random ASC LIMIT 1  
[14:46:15] 	 every time i remember i was writing it that is... 'plate, lot's on it'
[14:46:48] 	 will take a look on it later today, i was now just leaving
[14:52:27] 	 New review: Umherirrender; "No need to do this for rev_user_text, because it is only necessary for free text form fields. A user..." [mediawiki/tools/mwdumper] (master) C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30932
[14:53:16] 	 03(FIXED) Impossible to debug exceptions in API requests - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41494  +comment (10Umherirrender)
[14:53:50] 	 04(REOPENED) beta all.dblist is a live hack - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41133  +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[14:59:10] 	 03(mod) Sometimes wikisyntax for lists is interpreted inside 
 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41531  +comment (10Umherirrender)
[15:00:12] 	 03(NEW) homedir creation fail on a new instance - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41697 normal; Wikimedia Labs: General; (hashar)
[15:02:58] 	 03(NEW) TimedText page cannot be found from local when hosted on shared - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41698 normal; MediaWiki extensions: TimedMediaHandler; (hartman.wiki)
[15:05:23] 	 marktraceur: thanks!
[15:05:30] 	 marktraceur: can you put a review of that UW copymetadatacontroldiv thing on your todo list ?
[15:05:46] 	 would be good to finally get that crasher solved.
[15:05:55] 	 thedj: thank you for working on that guide! 
[15:06:37] 	 thedj: the next time we do something like https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Code_review_management/July_2011_training  or https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Code_review_management/Aug_2011_training I think a11y should be in there
[15:07:57] 	 we really need to get better at it, i figure if we take the most basic stuff into account however, that its very easy to build wikieditors/UW/mediaplayers etc that blind people can use as well. 
[15:08:17] 	 first time round, instead of always patching it up 4 years after the first release :D
[15:08:23] 	 ally?
[15:08:46] 	 "accessibility" is to a11y as "internationalisation" is to i18n
[15:09:03] 	 Oh.
[15:09:20] 	 thedj: you saw that audit sponsored by wikimedia ch?
[15:09:20] 	 So not the Ally McBeal spin-off, then? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ally
[15:09:28] 	 sumanah: yeah 
[15:09:38] 	 sumanah: but it's not always good advise
[15:09:42] 	 OH!
[15:09:44] 	 I find it amusing that there is a very inaccessible shortcut for accessibility
[15:09:55] 	 Darkly amusing.
[15:10:09] 	 sumanah: the problem with audits is that they target making your website accessible.
[15:10:09] * sumanah  should perhaps stop using it
[15:10:11] 	 'at all cost'
[15:10:26] 	 well not really, but sometimes at a bit too much cost.
[15:10:47] 	 03(mod) A nicer edit summary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41687  +comment (10the wub)
[15:11:00] 	 So, it's a bunch of recommendations that we'd need to do some cost-benefit analysis on before implementing, thedj?
[15:11:06] 	 so it often conflicts with other standards and people from the tech community.
[15:11:18] 	 03(mod) Internal error when changing a user talk page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41689  +comment (10Krenair)
[15:11:53] 	 03(ASSIGNED) beta all.dblist is a live hack - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41133  +comment (10Brad Jorsch)
[15:12:43] 	 like 'don't use tables for presentational content' yes ideally. unfortunately we supported IE 5.5 which makes it totally unusable advice. Even now, it's hardly possible (though much closer)
[15:12:51] 	 thedj: may I add you to https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Accessibility#People_and_organizations_working_on_MediaWiki_accessibility ?
[15:13:00] 	 sure
[15:13:50] 	 Like anything, the term can also be misused or abused.
[15:14:11] 	 Sometimes people will try to spread their style or aesthetic decisions under the guise of increased accessibility.
[15:14:46] 	 thedj: and may I add you to an email thread of people interested in working on accessibility in Wikimedia?
[15:14:58] 	 sure
[15:16:45] 	 WCAG 2.0 + HTML 5  is much better than anything so far though.
[15:20:18] 	 03(NEW) Special:Articles table is incomplete; some article names are missing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41699 normal; MediaWiki extensions: EducationProgram; (ragesoss)
[15:20:36] 	 DanielK_WMDE: can you explain more about the use case in wikidata described at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/31361/
[15:21:00] 	 03(mod) Special:Articles table is incomplete; some article names are missing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41699  +comment (10Sage Ross)
[15:22:09] 	 03(mod) Special:Articles table is incomplete; some article names are missing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41699  +comment (10Sage Ross)
[15:25:27] 	 03(NEW) Importing pages with translate extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41700 major; MediaWiki extensions: Translate; (Ajraddatz)
[15:31:27] 	 03(mod) Change wikidata RC to #wikidata.wikimedia from #wikidata.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41682  +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[15:31:59] 	 New patchset: Zfilipin; "Mark a job pass/fail at Sauce Labs" [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31385
[15:33:10] 	 03(mod) Importing pages with translate extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41700  +comment (10Nemo_bis)
[15:33:20] 	 03(mod) Installation of Extension: Collection on Urdu Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41563  +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[15:33:30] 	 03(mod) Change wikidata RC to #wikidata.wikimedia from #wikidata.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41682  +comment (10Liangent)
[15:34:28] 	 03(mod) Importing pages with translate extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41700  major->normal (10Nemo_bis)
[15:34:32] 	 New patchset: Nikerabbit; "Work on ApiTranslationReview" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24942
[15:34:56] 	 03(mod) Change wikidata RC to #wikidata.wikimedia from #wikidata.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41682  +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[15:35:37] 	 03(mod) Importing pages with translate extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41700  +comment (10Niklas Laxström)
[15:37:21] 	 New review: Nikerabbit; "Thank you Jenkins for approving this. Wasted few hours trying to find out why state leaks from one t..." [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24942
[15:37:37] 	 Change merged: Hashar; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28971
[15:37:57] 	 New patchset: J; "Bug 41688: dont overwrite $.unique" [mediawiki/extensions/MwEmbedSupport] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31386
[15:38:44] 	 New review: Cmcmahon; "run automatically on deployment schedule" [qa/browsertests] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31383
[15:39:00] 	 New patchset: J; "Bug 41688: use $.uniqueArray" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31387
[15:39:00] 	 New review: Cmcmahon; "run automatically on deployment schedule" [qa/browsertests] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31383
[15:39:00] 	 Change merged: Cmcmahon; [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31383
[15:39:25] 	 New review: Cmcmahon; "better feedback at the client VM" [qa/browsertests] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31385
[15:39:26] 	 Change merged: Cmcmahon; [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31385
[15:41:15] 	 03(mod) Buggy $.unique function fails for empty arrays, breaking other scripts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41688  +comment (10Jan Gerber)
[15:44:47] 	 03(mod) TimedText page cannot be found from local when hosted on shared - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41698  +comment (10Michael Dale)
[15:45:30] 	 03(NEW) Special:MyCourses and Special:ManageCourses do not list all enrolled courses - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41701 normal; MediaWiki extensions: EducationProgram; (ragesoss)
[15:45:52] 	 thedj[work]: I think in December I'll do a big pile of reviewing and other work, but right now is Parsoid-priority, sorry :( maybe one night when I'm bored I can run through reviews, I don't know
[15:46:20] 	 Brooke: Ally McBeal is only one part of our long code review process
[15:46:29] 	 03(mod) homedir creation fail on a new instance - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41697  +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[15:46:57] 	 marktraceur: k
[15:49:52] 	 New patchset: Zfilipin; "Do not check for Sandbox link" [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31389
[15:53:29] 	 03(mod) IE7: poster frame not scaled to visible area - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41647  +comment (10Michael Dale)
[15:53:32] 	 03(mod) TimedText page cannot be found from local when hosted on shared - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41698  +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman)
[15:53:50] 	 New patchset: Raimond Spekking; "[Contest] Disable extension, unused" [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31390
[15:54:04] 	 Change merged: Raimond Spekking; [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31390
[15:55:53] 	 03(NEW) edit seconds after the block - block not loaded from master? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41702 normal; MediaWiki: User blocking; (umherirrender_de.wp)
[15:56:59] 	 New patchset: Raimond Spekking; "[HTMLTags] Register extension" [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31391
[15:56:59] 	 14(DUP) Importing pages with translate extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41700  +comment (10Ajraddatz)
[15:56:59] 	 03(mod) Enable translation import on wikis with Translate extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40341  +comment (10Ajraddatz)
[15:57:32] 	 Change merged: Raimond Spekking; [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31391
[15:58:37] 	 New patchset: Mdale; "bug 41648 removed ui-state-highlight class on warning use page link colors." [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31392
[15:58:54] 	 03(mod) IE7 fallback link to "html5 video browser" has same color as text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41648  +comment (10Michael Dale)
[15:59:27] 	 03(mod) IE7: poster frame not scaled to visible area - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41647  +comment (10Jan Gerber)
[15:59:45] 	 New patchset: Zfilipin; "Sauce Labs jobs now have names" [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31393
[16:00:54] 	 Change merged: J; [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31392
[16:01:57] 	 New patchset: TheDJ; "(bug 26995) Update filename field on Special:Upload after sanitizing" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/21478
[16:02:40] 	 oh f f s.
[16:04:08] 	 New patchset: TheDJ; "(bug 26995) Update filename field on Special:Upload after sanitizing" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/21478
[16:06:37] 	 New review: Cmcmahon; "this makes it much easier to identify and debug test runs" [qa/browsertests] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31393
[16:06:37] 	 Change merged: Cmcmahon; [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31393
[16:07:08] 	 03(mod) [SIO][SCQ] Compound query for SIO when using custom namespaces - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38711  +comment (10Andy)
[16:07:52] 	 New review: Cmcmahon; "handle cruft in test2wiki and other envs. no need to check Sandbox for a pure-edit test" [qa/browsertests] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31389
[16:07:52] 	 Change merged: Cmcmahon; [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31389
[16:10:36] 	 03(mod) WikiEditor interface overflows out of bodyContent div - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40608  +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman)
[16:10:45] 	 New patchset: Liangent; "Move some functions to a new class: ArrayUtils" [mediawiki/core] (chinese-collation) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28492
[16:10:46] 	 New patchset: Liangent; "Do not always prepend $wgCategoryCollation to $wgCategoryCollations" [mediawiki/core] (chinese-collation) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28185
[16:10:54] 	 New patchset: Liangent; "Fix various boundary cases in IcuCollation::findLowerBound()" [mediawiki/core] (chinese-collation) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28491
[16:10:54] 	 New patchset: Liangent; "Use magic words to allow localized [[Category:Foo|bar=baz]]" [mediawiki/core] (chinese-collation) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28004
[16:10:54] 	 New patchset: Liangent; "Fix some issues pointed out in CR" [mediawiki/core] (chinese-collation) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28020
[16:11:30] 	 New review: Raimond Spekking; "Thanks! Added to translatewiki today :)" [mediawiki/extensions/HTMLTags] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31304
[16:14:03] 	 03(mod) Special:MyCourses and Special:ManageCourses do not list all enrolled courses - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41701  (10Andre Klapper)
[16:14:16] 	 New patchset: Raimond Spekking; "[GeoCrumbs] Register extension" [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31394
[16:14:34] 	 Change merged: Raimond Spekking; [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31394
[16:15:17] 	 03(mod) IE7 fallback link to "html5 video browser" has same color as text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41648   +patch-in-gerrit; +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[16:15:50] 	 03(mod) IE7: poster frame not scaled to visible area - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41647  +comment (10Jan Gerber)
[16:16:06] 	 New review: Yaron Koren; "That's great news! Thanks." [mediawiki/extensions/HTMLTags] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31304
[16:16:43] 	 03(mod) IE7: poster frame not scaled to visible area - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41647  +comment (10Jan Gerber)
[16:21:21] 	 New patchset: Mdale; "bug 41650 do fullscreen restore in async call to allow dom update from 'fixed' pos" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31395
[16:21:38] 	 03(mod) leaving fullscreen, page should scroll to video - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41650  +comment (10Michael Dale)
[16:22:27] 	 should /images really be 777?
[16:23:06] 	 or should /images be owned by the apache user?
[16:24:03] 	 apache user should be the owner
[16:24:28] 	 and then 755 for permissions, I'd assume
[16:24:30] 	 yes
[16:24:35] 	 thx
[16:25:19] 	 03(FIXED) Wikimania2010wiki needs to be re-locked - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41690  +comment (10Max Semenik)
[16:27:38] 	 New patchset: Raimond Spekking; "Delete message from 'de' which is identical to source" [mediawiki/extensions/GeoCrumbs] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31396
[16:27:49] 	 Change merged: Raimond Spekking; [mediawiki/extensions/GeoCrumbs] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31396
[16:29:11] 	 New review: Mdale; "Looks good. I have made a note in the documentation that if using the starttime parameter we use the..." [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31372
[16:29:11] 	 Change merged: Mdale; [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31372
[16:29:27] 	 Change merged: J; [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31395
[16:29:59] 	 03(mod) Documentation is awful - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39979  +comment (10Sage Ross)
[16:31:14] 	 03(mod) regression: thumbtime parameter no longer works, videos default to middle thumbnail - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39014  +comment (10Michael Dale)
[16:31:53] 	 New patchset: Zfilipin; "Move test name to the front." [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31397
[16:31:55] 	 03(NEW) Commons app doesn't handle expired login tokens properly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41703 normal; Commons App: General; (yuvipanda)
[16:32:59] 	 03(mod) regression: thumbtime parameter no longer works, videos default to middle thumbnail - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39014  +comment (10Sage Ross)
[16:34:06] 	 03(mod) IE7: poster frame not scaled to visible area - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41647  +comment (10Jan Gerber)
[16:34:46] 	 03(mod) TimedText namespace is using CamelCase for no good reason - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41692  +comment (10Michael Dale)
[16:36:07] 	 03(mod) WikiEditor interface overflows out of bodyContent div - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40608  +comment (10Isarra)
[16:37:33] 	 03(mod) TimedText namespace is using CamelCase for no good reason - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41692  -easy ; +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[16:37:57] 	 03(mod) WikiEditor interface overflows out of bodyContent div - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40608  +comment (10Isarra)
[16:38:14] 	 03(NEW) Commons app doesn't handle changed login passwords properly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41704 normal; Commons App: General; (yuvipanda)
[16:38:36] 	 03(mod) ProofreadPage does not use image's full resolution when zooming in - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41614  normal->minor (10Andre Klapper)
[16:41:29] 	 New patchset: Reedy; "Import from SVN" [mediawiki/extensions/SearchExtraNS] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31398
[16:41:49] 	 Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions/SearchExtraNS] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31398
[16:46:30] 	 New patchset: Reedy; "Fixup code" [mediawiki/extensions/SearchExtraNS] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31399
[16:46:59] 	 Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions/SearchExtraNS] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31399
[16:50:05] 	 New patchset: Reedy; "Remove patch" [mediawiki/extensions/SearchExtraNS] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31400
[16:50:19] 	 MatmaRex: I would like to take this opportunity to thank you for not being an enormous arse. I appreciate it.
[16:50:21] 	 Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions/SearchExtraNS] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31400
[16:50:51] 	 Isarra: uh, thanks. you're probably the only person ever to say this to me.
[16:52:18] 	 or about me
[16:52:42] 	 sincerely :P
[16:52:59] 	 That's probably a good thing, since usually such statements take an enormous arse in juxtaposition to be made.
[16:55:20] 	 Change merged: IAlex; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31324
[16:55:37] 	 New patchset: Reedy; "Updates to go with core" [mediawiki/extensions/SearchExtraNS] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31401
[16:55:38] 	 eh, those people usually have reasons for this, the most common one being that i do tend to act like an arse ;)
[16:55:54] 	 Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions/SearchExtraNS] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31401
[16:56:53] 	 03(mod) Data too long for column 'rev_comment' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/13721  +comment (10Bean49)
[16:57:41] 	 New patchset: Reedy; "Addition of SearchAfterNoDirectMatch hook" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31402
[17:04:54] 	 New patchset: Mdale; "bug 41652 re draw the controls after a timeout, allow the DOM to update" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31404
[17:06:28] 	 New patchset: Mdale; "bug 41652 re draw the controls after a timeout, allow the DOM to update" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31404
[17:07:16] 	 New patchset: Mdale; "bug 41652 re draw the controls after a timeout, allow the DOM to update" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31404
[17:08:21] 	 03(mod) if seekbar has been disabled in embedded view, fullscreening does not reveal seekbar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41652  +comment (10Michael Dale)
[17:10:19] 	 New review: Mdale; "should fix https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41688" [mediawiki/extensions/MwEmbedSupport] (master) C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31386
[17:11:21] 	 New review: Catrope; "Is this compatible with Parsoid pre-31118?" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (change-markers); V: 0 C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31348
[17:12:12] 	 New review: MarkTraceur; "Nooooo. Not at all. Don't merge if you intend to run this branch in production, and be ready to upda..." [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (change-markers); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31348
[17:13:05] 	 i'm trying to show some videos on my wiki that are local files
[17:13:16] 	 or on a network storage
[17:13:33] 	 New review: Catrope; "From reading 31118, that doesn't appear to be the case. Could the commit for making Parsoid take a p..." [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (change-markers); V: 0 C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31348
[17:13:59] 	 03(mod) Unlock wikimania2010 wiki for editing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40123  +comment (10Krenair)
[17:14:57] 	 New review: MarkTraceur; "I shall do just that later in the day, first there are other issues what need fixing." [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (change-markers); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31348
[17:15:07] 	 New review: J; "does not work here if i play and fullscreen while playing, results in controls being out of sync wit..." [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master); V: 0 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31404
[17:17:15] 	 Change merged: J; [mediawiki/extensions/MwEmbedSupport] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31386
[17:17:32] 	 Change merged: J; [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31387
[17:17:32] 	 03(mod) Add support for multiple types of subtitle services - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41694  +comment (10Michael Dale)
[17:18:27] 	 cpuobsessed: If they're in OGG format, you should be able to pload them to the wiki as a normal file
[17:19:02] 	 otherwise, there's no way to embed them inside an article. But you can link to them inside the article, if the files are accessible from the web server
[17:19:14] 	 New review: Catrope; "D'oh, Mark points out this is for change-markers, not master, so merging it can't hurt. And there's ..." [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (change-markers); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31348
[17:19:14] 	 Change merged: Catrope; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (change-markers) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31348
[17:20:25] 	 03(mod) TimedText namespace is using CamelCase for no good reason - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41692  +comment (10Aaron Schulz)
[17:21:19] 	 03(mod) Drop possessive in user toolbar labels - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41672  +comment (10Steven Walling)
[17:22:00] 	 Vulpix: i have them on a nas mount under images/Videos
[17:22:20] 	 pload?
[17:26:13] 	 *upload
[17:26:29] 	 [[Special:Upload]] on your wiki
[17:26:46] 	 We have some extensions that can do it...
[17:27:11] 	 http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Configuring_file_uploads
[17:27:16] 	 03(mod) Improve the keyboard navigation for TMH - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41695  +comment (10Michael Dale)
[17:29:19] 	 03(mod) Add support for multiple types of subtitle services - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41694  (10Michael Dale)
[17:31:27] 	 oh, he left...
[17:33:39] 	 New patchset: J; "bug 41652 enable scrollbar in fullscreen" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31404
[17:34:38] 	 Change merged: J; [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31404
[17:35:44] 	 New patchset: Mdale; "bug 41696 -- adds alt title for thumbnails" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31409
[17:36:23] 	 Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31371
[17:38:25] 	 Ummmm.... what happened to GitHub Sync?
[17:38:46] 	 03(mod) Video thumbs are not accessible to the visually impaired - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41696  +comment (10Michael Dale)
[17:40:51] 	 MWException: Error in MediaWikiLangTestCase::setUp(): $wgLanguageCode ('en-gb') is different from $wgContLang->getCode() (en)
[17:40:51] 	 what
[17:41:40] 	 NVM, found it...
[17:44:06] 	 New patchset: Bsitu; "Use canonical url for email links" [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31411
[17:47:16] 	 Hello
[17:47:30] 	 anyone can help me?
[17:48:18] 	 Hi shuaib_ 
[17:48:34] 	 plz install this extension.
[17:48:40] 	 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41563
[17:49:10] 	 shuaib_, has Reedy's last comment been dealt with?
[17:49:22] 	 (the 18 untranslated ones)
[17:49:25] 	 New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "Various cleanups for 404 fixing script." [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaMaintenance] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31412
[17:49:27] 	 03(mod) Unable to create and initialize home directory - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41622  +comment (10Ori Livneh)
[17:49:29] 	 it doesn't seem so
[17:50:28] 	 Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaMaintenance] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31412
[17:51:53] 	 its not 
[17:52:09] 	 its not neccesary.
[17:52:26] 	 necessary
[17:52:26] 	 Then say so on the bug
[17:52:26] 	 03(mod) enable variable old_html and old_text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22075   +performance (10Nemo_bis)
[17:53:01] 	 03(mod) Enable tags on Etherpad - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30240  (10Nemo_bis)
[17:53:08] 	 New patchset: Mdale; "Fixes buildCCMenu event to retain player scope" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31413
[17:53:23] 	 03(mod) Installation of Extension: Collection on Urdu Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41563  +comment (10Muhammad Shuaib)
[17:53:30] 	 yes said.
[17:55:38] 	 03(mod) Views/hr column in WikiStats should consider an average on several months - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35194  +comment (10Nemo_bis)
[17:55:55] 	 03(mod) Wikispecial wikis WikiStats Zeitgeist should include talk - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35195  +comment (10Nemo_bis)
[17:56:27] 	 some messages were translated.
[17:57:00] 	 03(mod) WikiStats should recognize global bots - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35196  +comment (10Nemo_bis)
[17:57:06] 	 03(mod) Add a "number of articles with interwiki links" column in WikiStats tables - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35197  +comment (10Nemo_bis)
[17:57:17] 	 03(mod) WikiStats comparison charts of (very) active users are broken, 0 is shown as missing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35829  +comment (10Nemo_bis)
[17:57:34] 	 03(mod) Commons app doesn't handle expired login tokens properly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41703  +comment (10Yuvi Panda)
[17:57:37] 	 03(mod) Installation of Extension: Collection on Urdu Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41563  +comment (10Muhammad Shuaib)
[17:57:50] 	 03(mod) Views/hr column in WikiStats should consider an average on several months - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35194  (10Nemo_bis)
[18:00:00] 	 03(FIXED) IE7 fallback link to "html5 video browser" has same color as text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41648  +comment (10Michael Dale)
[18:00:15] 	 03(mod) Drop possessive in user toolbar labels - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41672  +comment (10Steven Walling)
[18:00:41] 	 03(mod) Drop possessive in personal tools - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41672  summary (10Steven Walling)
[18:02:12] 	 Change merged: Kaldari; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/21478
[18:02:47] 	 03(FIXED) Commons app doesn't handle expired login tokens properly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41703  (10Yuvi Panda)
[18:06:50] 	 New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "More 404 script changes." [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaMaintenance] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31414
[18:07:17] 	 Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaMaintenance] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31414
[18:09:40] 	 03(NEW) Default implementation of DatabaseBase::estimateRowCount() works incorrectly for queries with GROUP BY - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41705 normal; MediaWiki: Database; (liangent)
[18:11:00] 	 mhm, should I remove the page_latest check from this one https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31312
[18:11:32] 	 it seems to me that it's not of much use, but has several potential downsides
[18:13:50] 	 Change merged: Kaldari; [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31411
[18:18:15] 	 03(mod) Drop possessive in personal tools - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41672  +comment (10Brandon Harris)
[18:18:33] 	 03(mod) Drop possessive in personal tools - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41672  +comment (10Brandon Harris)
[18:20:01] 	 DanielK_WMDE, PHP Catchable fatal error:  Argument 2 passed to Wikibase\RepoHooks::onPageContentLanguage() must be an instance of Language, string given in /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.21wmf3/extensions/Wikibase/repo/Wikibase.hooks.php on line 153
[18:20:33] 	 MaxSem: Known bug, logged last night
[18:20:59] 	 Reedy, is the TMH warning also known?
[18:21:21] 	 Which one is that?
[18:21:25] 	 Change merged: Alex Monk; [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31347
[18:21:30] 	 Invalid argument supplied for foreach() in /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.21wmf2/extensions/TimedMediaHandler/handlers/OggHandler/OggHandler.php on line 250
[18:21:40] 	 j^: mdale ^
[18:21:42] 	 I don't think so
[18:22:47] 	 Reedy: is that for a particular file .. ( that would be listed in the log?  )
[18:23:29] 	 ^demon|away: https://github.com/mediawiki :(
[18:23:39] 	 AaronSchulz: they're on wikimedia now
[18:23:46] 	 mdale, no file information
[18:23:46] <^demon|away>	 I e-mailed wikitech-l about this.
[18:24:23] 	 I can't see the ogghandler one in the logs...
[18:25:31] 	 yeah, it got pushed outta fatalmonitor list
[18:26:22] 	 now it's mostly Wikidata and Swift
[18:26:33] 	 i was looking at fatal/exception log on fluorine
[18:30:04] 	 MaxSem: where do you get that TMH warning?
[18:30:25] 	 in error log on WMF cluster
[18:30:38] 	 how often?
[18:30:39] 	 ;)
[18:32:04] 	 not very
[18:32:48] 	 ...to say the least:)
[18:35:45] 	 New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "Allow ExtractThumbParameters before local regexp" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf3) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31417
[18:36:57] 	 New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "Allow ExtractThumbParameters before local regexp" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31418
[18:37:34] 	 Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31418
[18:37:57] 	 03(mod) Wikibase Repo: Catchable fatal error: Argument 2 passed to Wikibase\RepoHooks::onPageContentLanguage() must be an instance of Language, string given - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41667  +comment (10Robin Pepermans (SPQRobin))
[18:38:30] 	 anomie: could you review https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23984 ? Since you've -2 on it, it sticks between PS, and maybe that could discourage others from reviewing it again
[18:39:22] 	 Vulpix- Sure, just a few minutes. Re-reviewing that has been on my todo list, but I haven't had a chance to do my todo list yet
[18:39:23] 	 Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf3) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31417
[18:39:40] 	 anomie: ok, if that's already on your radar then no worries ;)
[18:41:57] 	 Change merged: J; [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31409
[18:43:10] 	 Change merged: J; [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31413
[18:45:54] 	 New patchset: Mdale; "bug 41698, Link to description page for remote assets timed text ns" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31419
[18:47:11] 	 03(mod) TimedText page cannot be found from local when hosted on shared - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41698  +comment (10Michael Dale)
[18:47:59] 	 maybe -2 should be used only when a changeset goes in a completely wrong approach?
[18:48:12] 	 makes sense to me :)
[18:48:16] 	 New patchset: Hoo man; "Only show rollback links if they work" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31312
[18:48:22] 	 I didn't realize that -2 persisted across patchsets
[18:48:42] 	 hoo: right now it looks like you're going to get +2 on CentralAuth but not on AbuseFilter
[18:49:02] 	 since you've gotten a +1 on CA but no +1 of support on AF
[18:49:15] 	 sumanah: mhm :/
[18:50:18] 	 sumanah: But there currently isn't any community member who got merge rights explicit on AF
[18:50:18] 	 Done
[18:50:19] 	 so who could even +1? :/
[18:50:41] 	 hoo: there are about 60 people, because the MediaWiki core group also includes AF approval permissions
[18:50:52] 	 I know, but those aren't dedicated to AF
[18:51:15] 	 hoo: but they have the power to +1 merge requests for any WMF-deployed extension as well
[18:51:40] 	 Well... sure... can't you get one to have a look then?
[18:51:55] 	 hoo: I did ask them to look
[18:51:58] * RoanKattouw  checks out hoo's AF contribs
[18:52:04] 	 There several very minor changes for AF which desperately wait for a merge
[18:52:29] 	 hoo: on the 29th I sent a note to all the people who have +2 access in core to ask them to approve or disapprove your request
[18:52:33] 	 how does one fight bogus user registrations coming from zombie machines?
[18:53:03] 	 hoo: did you originally ask for +2 in core? are my eyes failing me?
[18:53:34] 	 sumanah: No, only AF and CA
[18:53:51] 	 I think I'm not yet ready for core
[18:53:51] 	 03(mod) Drop possessive in personal tools - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41672  +comment (10MZMcBride)
[18:54:10] 	 I'm at fault - I said in my email that you were asking for +2 in core.  if RoanKattouw has a moment to give his opinion and it's a +1 then I don't have to go through the embarrassing exercise of backtracking and sending another email 
[18:54:25] 	 :/ I am sorry for making that error
[18:54:31] 	 I misread
[18:54:45] 	 marktraceur: Ally McBeal should be an integral part of every part of our lives.
[18:55:30] 	 03(mod) Catalan Wikisource broken (wgProofreadPageNamespaceIds) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41616  (10sedobbelt)
[18:55:30] 	 New review: Hoo man; "Removed check against page_latest (to avoid people to rely on this, it's only an additional check, a..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31312
[18:55:48] 	 New patchset: Hoo man; "Only show rollback links if they work" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31312
[18:56:38] 	 hoo: at least let me congratulate you on your CentralAuth ascendancy now :)
[18:56:39] 	 and maybe soon your AF promotion as well :)
[18:57:28] 	 03(mod) Unable to create and initialize home directory - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41622  +comment (10Ori Livneh)
[18:57:33] 	 Thanks, sumanah, you're doing a great job ;)
[18:57:45] * sumanah  curtseys :-)
[18:59:46] 	 New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "Simplified thumb.php for 404 handling." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28308
[19:00:20] 	 sumanah: I have to run, don't have time to edit the wiki page, but you can give hoo +2 on AF as far as I'm concerned
[19:00:34] 	 ok, RoanKattouw_away I shall
[19:02:13] 	 hoo: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Gerrit_project_ownership#Me_.28hoo.29_for_.2B2_on_AbuseFilter_and_CentralAuth done
[19:02:38] 	 03(mod) Drop possessive in personal tools - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41672  +comment (10Seb35)
[19:02:46] * hoo  yays
[19:03:07] 	 New review: SPQRobin; "Your description of getPageViewLanguage is what getPageLanguage was intended for: for determining th..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31361
[19:03:24] 	 Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31373
[19:04:13] 	 hoo: do you know how to make Gerrit auto-alert you when there are new patchsets in CentralAuth & AbuseFilter?
[19:04:26] 	 New patchset: Cmcmahon; "this is nonsense" [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31421
[19:04:29] * sumanah  looks at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/status:open+project:mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter,n,z and https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/status:open+project:mediawiki/extensions/CentralAuth,n,z 
[19:04:32] 	 03(mod) Drop possessive in personal tools - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41672  +comment (10Isarra)
[19:05:05] 	 hoo: it's in your Gerrit preferences/settings ("watch" a project)
[19:05:06] 	 sumanah: No... *searching*
[19:05:19] 	 ah :)
[19:06:40] 	 New review: Yaron Koren; "Merging to make future changes easier (please don't judge me, Git people!)" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticWatchlist] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28400
[19:06:40] 	 Change merged: Yaron Koren; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticWatchlist] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28400
[19:07:01] 	 14(DUP) Change wikidata RC to #wikidata.wikimedia from #wikidata.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41682  +comment (10Danny B.)
[19:07:05] 	 03(mod) Inconsistently named IRC recent changes channels - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28276  +comment (10Danny B.)
[19:07:05] 	 hoo: you have more than a dozen changesets to improve, merge, abandon, or otherwise deal with in the near future :-) thanks for your help
[19:08:05] 	 sumanah: :) I'll do ;)
[19:08:07] 	 03(mod) Inconsistently named IRC recent changes channels - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28276  +comment (10Danny B.)
[19:09:19] 	 sumanah: what did you mean by "email thread for accessibility"?
[19:09:42] 	 New review: Anomie; "Filesorting issue seems fixed, although I'd prefer another pair of eyes verify that. I see just a fe..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23984
[19:10:17] 	 Vulpix- There you go
[19:10:47] 	 Danny_B|backup: you're talking about the conversation I had with thedj[work] earlier today?
[19:11:19] 	 Change abandoned: Cmcmahon; "futzing with git-review.  nothing to see here." [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31421
[19:12:08] 	 anomie: thanks :)
[19:12:25] 	 "fatal: Couldn't find remote ref" git review :/
[19:12:31] 	 New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "Moved FileBackend tests to /filebackend." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31422
[19:12:49] 	 Reedy: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/31422/ ;)
[19:12:58] 	 03(mod) Remove "hits" from CAPTCHA dictionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/16166  +comment (10Platonides)
[19:12:58] 	 03(mod) Include a default word blacklist for FancyCaptcha - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/21025  (10Platonides)
[19:13:15] 	 oh, I'm in the wrong repo :P
[19:13:31] 	 sumanah: yup
[19:13:54] 	 Danny_B|backup: I basically group emailed everyone on https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Accessibility#People_and_organizations_working_on_MediaWiki_accessibility after adding Derk-Jan to say "hey people, you should collaborate with each other" :)
[19:14:20] 	 03(FIXED) Buggy $.unique function fails for empty arrays, breaking other scripts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41688  +comment (10PleaseStand)
[19:15:10] 	 sumanah: hmm, i did not get any email although i'm on that list even twice... :-/
[19:15:25] 	 oh, I might have missed a few people.
[19:17:11] 	 New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "Added script to fix rev_page entries (bug 41649)." [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaMaintenance] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31350
[19:17:56] 	 would you like to forward it to me then?
[19:18:28] 	 03(mod) Inconsistently named IRC recent changes channels - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28276  +comment (10Liangent)
[19:20:11] 	 New patchset: Dan-nl; "initial commit" [mediawiki/extensions/GWToolset] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31423
[19:20:52] 	 03(mod) Unable to create and initialize home directory - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41622  +comment (10Ryan Lane)
[19:20:54] 	 03(FIXED) Unable to create and initialize home directory - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41622  (10Ryan Lane)
[19:21:08] 	 Danny_B|backup: sent.
[19:21:08] 	 03(NEW) Fatal exception of type MWException when creating a new section with preloaded text in a CSS page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41706 normal; MediaWiki: Page editing; (mybugs.mail)
[19:25:32] 	 Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31422
[19:26:57] 	 03(NEW) ORMRow::saveExisting updates a tinyint with empty string - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41707 normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (wm-bugzilla)
[19:28:24] 	 03(mod) Fatal exception of type MWException when creating a new section with preloaded text in a CSS page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41706  +comment (10Chris Steipp)
[19:28:36] 	 New review: Krinkle; "What will happen is:" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31290
[19:30:35] 	 03(mod) Fatal exception of type MWException when creating a new section with preloaded text in a CSS page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41706  (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[19:31:08] 	 03(mod) Format text/css is not supported for content model wikitext - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41706  summary (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[19:39:34] 	 hi varnent! how are you?
[19:39:59] 	 sumanah: good!  my org just wrapped up our annual event and I'm finally settled into my new job - so finally emerging from hiding  :)
[19:40:07] 	 sumanah: how are you doing?
[19:40:23] 	 I'm okay!
[19:41:01] 	 sumanah: I'm trying to catch up on all my WM emails and news - what is up with this new board vote on narrowing scope of focus or something?  that something I need to care about?  :)
[19:41:21] 	 varnent: We have a new bug wrangler (Andre Klapper) and as you can see in https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Gerrit_project_ownership and the archives, more volunteers have gotten +2 in core or WMF-deployed extensions
[19:41:38] 	 sumanah: excellent - I should reach out to Andre
[19:42:21] 	 Are there any statistics on what new volunteers we've gotten of late?
[19:42:25] 	 New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "More cleanup script fixes." [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaMaintenance] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31425
[19:42:38] 	 In particular that actually managed to not be immediately chased off?
[19:42:47] 	 Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaMaintenance] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31425
[19:42:58] 	 me, probably
[19:43:52] 	 Isarra: might be of interest:  http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Community_Metrics/October_2012
[19:44:26] 	 varnent: "narrowing focus" is somewhat something for you to care about in that WMF will be directly running fewer tech events and instead encouraging small regional ones run by other orgs incl chapters.
[19:45:06] 	 sumanah: so rather than hackathons being run by your office - your office will work with local sponsors like chapters?
[19:45:13] 	 varnent: in short, yes
[19:45:39] 	 That's amazing.
[19:45:40] 	 sumanah: I suppose I could argue that as good or bad - but it's done - so now to figure out how to make it work I suppose
[19:45:58] 	 Isarra: I know you are very very cynical about everything having to do with Wikimedia's technical community (and I am not).  I will try to answer your question and may be a little slower and more nuanced than you'd like in this conversation :)
[19:46:22] 	 sumanah: that sounds only problematic - from a mediawiki dev perspective - in the US really where we don't have the structure of smaller entities setup yet
[19:46:50] 	 New patchset: Andrew Bogott; "Filter out 'tiny' instances from the Add Instance GUI." [mediawiki/extensions/OpenStackManager] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31429
[19:46:52] 	 example of a US event, varnent - http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/SMWCon_Spring_2013 run by Yaron 
[19:47:18] 	 Isarra: so, there are about 4 different streams of technical contribution in the Wikimedia tech community, in terms of volunteering
[19:47:35] 	 Isarra: code, bug reports, systems administration, and documentation and product management
[19:47:37] 	 sumanah: it does sound like having a true MW Hackathon in say Ann Arbor becomes more complicated - unless a local A2 entity takes the lead as the fiduciary sponsor and such
[19:47:41] 	 sumanah: I'm actually not running it, I'm just the local chair.
[19:47:52] 	 Yaron: I sit corrected!
[19:47:52] 	 New review: Andrew Bogott; "As this code is already running in production, a declare it to be approved!" [mediawiki/extensions/OpenStackManager] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31429
[19:48:01] 	 Isarra: There's more about this in https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Engineering/2012-13_Goals#Wikimedia_technical_community in case you're interested
[19:48:09] 	 Nice.
[19:48:59] 	 sumanah: is WMF still going to flip the bill for events - via FDC - or is staying away from that a part of the new focus as well?
[19:49:03] 	 Change merged: Andrew Bogott; [mediawiki/extensions/OpenStackManager] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31429
[19:49:16] 	 Isarra: if you'd like to specifically ask about any one of those 4 streams I can talk about that, or I can discuss the overall trends that include all the types of contribution
[19:49:34] 	 Eloquence: you might want to jump in here and talk with varnent about some of this
[19:49:49] 	 varnent: "flip the bill" - I don't understand the colloquialism.
[19:49:56] 	 sumanah: cover the overhead expenses
[19:50:07] 	 03(mod) Articles I edit do not add to my watchlist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41573  +comment (10Arnav Sonara)
[19:50:29] 	 Eloquence: did the board up and make a mess of things?  j/k  :)
[19:50:40] 	 03(NEW) TimedMediaHandler causes PHP strict standards warnings - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41708 minor; MediaWiki extensions: TimedMediaHandler; (pleasestand)
[19:50:45] 	 I poke fun at it - but it actually sounds like a logical move from a nonprofit development perspective
[19:51:29] 	 reastically I imagine the execution results in more transparency about spending funds - and more responsibility being placed on the volunteer community vs. WMF staff
[19:51:31] 	 *realistically
[19:51:34] 	 varnent: regarding the financial costs of events, I think it really depends on the event and what its needs are and what the other partner(s) can cover
[19:52:24] 	 New review: MaxSem; "I've no further concerns, just a note that if the file contains , the result might be funny..." [mediawiki/extensions/ViewFiles] (master); V: 0 C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28799
[19:52:54] 	 sumanah: I suppose I am most interested in code, as I'm not entirely sure what the last two even entail.
[19:53:20] 	 Isarra: I saw in your recent wikitech-l post that you seem to have had some negative experiences with the Wikimedia technical community -- actually, I'm not clear on whether you've had actually negative experiences, or just neutral ones and are looking for positive ones
[19:53:48] 	 sumanah: I'm thinking of the hypothetical hackathon in a tech town in a non-WMF focused area - Detroit makes for a conveniant example - so the Ann Arbor wiki decides it wants to host a MediaWiki Hackathon - but they have zero funds - so if they agree to operate it - they could apply for FDC monies to cover the costs.  Would that include things like paying for you to be at the event?
[19:53:53] 	 Isarra: ok. Would you like for me to explain what I mean by "systems administration, and documentation and product management"?
[19:54:17] 	 varnent: I don't know, it depends, we'd talk about it?
[19:54:22] 	 sumanah: I can't merge AbuseFilter changes, it only allows me to give +1... CA works though
[19:54:34] 	 Either negative or neutral but after the horrible ordeal of gerrit they seemed negative... it is hard to tell. I intend to ask someone uninvolved for his opinion on it to see how delusional I truly am.
[19:55:06] 	 sumanah: okay - well that on the surface this all makes sense to me
[19:55:23] 	 ok, lemme help hoo with this and come back to Isarra in a moment
[19:55:23] 	 sumanah: has there been any progress on the MediaWiki becoming its own entity conversation?
[19:55:40] 	 sumanah: Thank you, but I may have to take you up on this later as I think I need to run in a moment.
[19:55:46] 	 oh ok!
[19:56:04] 	 Isarra: happy to talk more when you have time.
[19:56:13] 	 <3
[19:57:23] 	 hoo: try again? I was not diligent enough in checking something -- basically I assumed that since the group had been created, the connection between the group and the project also had been
[19:57:35] 	 have now checked and created that permission connection
[19:57:43] 	 you really are seeing me fall down on the job this week
[19:57:52] 	 New review: TheDJ; "x^2 \% notacomment % this is where the comment starts" [mediawiki/extensions/Math] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23063
[19:57:52] 	 Change merged: Hoo man; [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25494
[19:58:08] 	 Works, apparently :) Thanks, again
[19:58:25] 	 varnent: only at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Requests_for_comment/MediaWiki_Foundation 
[19:58:31] 	 great, glad to help hoo
[20:00:22] 	 sumanah: okay - so I haven't missed much there - I miss anything else the past month or so?
[20:00:28] 	 probably, yes
[20:00:38] 	 lol
[20:00:42] 	 the monthly engineering report just came out and may be helpful to you
[20:00:55] 	 https://blog.wikimedia.org/2012/11/01/engineering-october-2012-report/
[20:01:11] 	 that's on my list to read tonight - after an event I have to go to (oy)
[20:01:16] 	 and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2012-10-01/Technology_report and the other tech reports from the past month
[20:02:07] 	 sumanah: in my naive understanding of the focus changes - the MW conversation seems well timed
[20:02:55] 	 03(mod) Installation of Extension: Collection on Urdu Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41563  +comment (10Dereckson)
[20:04:45] 	 New patchset: Liangent; "Fix updateCollation.php for multiple collation support" [mediawiki/core] (chinese-collation) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31473
[20:08:43] 	 New patchset: Robmoen; "Base for inspectors & context menu to operate on 0 length selection." [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31137
[20:09:15] 	 New patchset: Cmcmahon; "put a .gitreview file in the repo" [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31485
[20:10:37] 	 New review: Cmcmahon; "+2ing myself, already talked about this with Zeljko" [qa/browsertests] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31485
[20:10:37] 	 Change merged: Cmcmahon; [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31485
[20:12:43] 	 New patchset: CSteipp; "Maintenance: get the extension running on MW1.21" [mediawiki/extensions/CreditsSource] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31026
[20:14:31] 	 is the new git-review version broken?
[20:14:47] 	 "error: could not create '/usr/local/man': File exists" when `pip install -U git-review`
[20:15:04] 	 New review: CSteipp; "This extension is safe how we currently use it, but I added comments in case we use it differently i..." [mediawiki/extensions/CreditsSource] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31026
[20:15:04] 	 Change merged: CSteipp; [mediawiki/extensions/CreditsSource] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31026
[20:15:24] 	 liangent: Seemingly, yeah
[20:15:27] 	 I've had the same issue
[20:16:38] 	 I've installed the new version yesterday without problems
[20:17:45] 	 debian etch with python installed on /opt because distro is outdated
[20:18:25] 	 New patchset: Parent5446; "(bug 41365) Added transclusion count to InfoAction." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31504
[20:18:58] 	 New patchset: Liangent; "Fix updateCollation.php for multiple collation support" [mediawiki/core] (chinese-collation) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31473
[20:18:59] 	 New patchset: Tpt; "(bug 41597) Provide a special page, Special:ListEntitiesWithoutLabel to list entities without label for a given language." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31508
[20:19:24] 	 anyone with postgres dev experience around?
[20:22:26] 	 03(mod) Add transclusion count to MediaWiki's info action - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41365   +patch-in-gerrit; +comment (10Tyler Romeo)
[20:22:35] 	 03(FIXED) mobile site se.m.wikimedia.org does not work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40455  +comment (10Arthur Richards)
[20:22:52] 	 liangent- I know a little about postgres. Ask and maybe I can answer.
[20:24:32] 	 anomie: I coded some db-related stuff with almost no postgres consideration because I almost know nothing about it
[20:25:14] 	 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/27511/ this one did some schema change
[20:25:22] 	 liangent: you could also ask saper when he's around
[20:25:38] 	 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/31473/ and this one used some complicated sql queries
[20:25:38] 	 aka Marcin Cieślak
[20:25:59] 	 03(mod) special page to list all items without label in a given language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41597  +comment (10Tpt)
[20:26:26] 	 03(mod) special page to list all items without label in a given language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41597  -need-volunteer +patch-need-review (10Tpt)
[20:27:20] 	 03(mod) WikiEditor interface overflows out of bodyContent div - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40608  +comment (10Daniel Friesen)
[20:31:22] 	 liangent- Ah. Yeah, take MatmaRex's advice. I know a good bit about PostgreSQL's take on SQL, but not so much on how it integrates with MediaWiki.
[20:33:25] 	 New patchset: Tpt; "Add namespaces for Welsh" [mediawiki/extensions/ProofreadPage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31539
[20:34:49] 	 Reedy: A user report that the welsh WIkisource is broken like the Catalan one. I've made a pach: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/31539/
[20:34:50] 	 Could you make it live ?
[20:35:13] 	 yeah
[20:36:16] 	 Reedy: Thanks !
[20:40:17] 	 03(mod) Blank messages via Mobile Feedback should not be sent - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41502  +comment (10Arthur Richards)
[20:40:35] 	 sumanah: okay - read the proposal to the board on the focus - that all makes sense  :)
[20:41:23] 	 Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions/ProofreadPage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31539
[20:41:48] 	 14(DUP) Dynamic sections: URL remains unchanged - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41670  +comment (10Jon)
[20:41:48] 	 03(mod) History pushState misbehaving on 4.0.4 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41605  +comment (10Jon)
[20:42:00] 	 New patchset: Reedy; "Update to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf3) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31554
[20:42:09] 	 03(NEW) API error "sections not supported for content model javascript" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41709 normal; MediaWiki: API; (matthew.flaschen)
[20:44:41] 	 molliug: Hi
[20:44:50] 	 hi sumanah
[20:44:57] 	 molliug: I know what "basile" means but what does molliug mean, in terms of your availability or awayness?
[20:45:13] 	 sumanah: I'm not away (yet)
[20:45:22] 	 (but bedtime is coming fast :)
[20:45:34] 	 What can I do for you
[20:46:00] 	 molliug: I just wanted to know what your username meant, really
[20:46:16] 	 sumanah: ah; it's guillom, reversed
[20:46:23] 	 molliug: (I meant in terms of awayness)
[20:46:35] 	 ah
[20:46:47] 	 03(mod) API error "sections not supported for content model javascript" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41709  +comment (10Jesús Martínez Novo (Ciencia Al Poder))
[20:46:50] 	 New patchset: Parent5446; "(bug 41368) Added category information to InfoAction." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31555
[20:46:51] 	 (It's also very close to "pumpkin" in Lithuanian, which is why I use it around Halowe'en)
[20:46:57] 	 molliug: oh! 
[20:47:07] 	 03(FIXED) Two summary buttons on back press - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41430  (10Jon)
[20:47:12] 	 molliug: my host mother in Russia called me "sumka" which basically also means "purse"
[20:48:08] 	 molliug: btw re our Monday 1:1 which you declined - if you give a GCal invite re a new time for Mon or Tues that would be good
[20:48:57] 	 sumanah: the one I declined was for the week after -- when I'll be on vacation. I don't think I declined next week's 1:1 (unless I made a mistake).
[20:49:06] 	 oh! lemme see
[20:49:20] 	 AH
[20:49:29] * sumanah  is quiet and goes away :)
[20:49:33] 	 :)
[20:50:02] 	 do you ever have a day that seems like just a mistake montage?
[20:50:26] 	 I am perilously close to quoting the Rembrandts' "I'll Be There For You"
[20:50:36] 	 Change merged: Raimond Spekking; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31536
[20:51:01] 	 03(mod) Add category membership count to MediaWiki's info action - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41368   +patch-in-gerrit; +comment (10Tyler Romeo)
[20:51:08] 	 anyway, I think that's it for now molliug, I shall respond to outstanding email from you, enjoy your weekend & thanks for managing the TMH communications
[20:51:24] 	 np
[20:52:36] 	 03(mod) Drop possessive in personal tools - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41672  +comment (10Tyler Romeo)
[20:53:22] 	 03(ASSIGNED) Installation of Extension: Collection on Urdu Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41563   +patch-in-gerrit; +comment (10Dereckson)
[20:59:20] 	 03(NEW) Login and settings redirect URL doesn't change on a dynamic page load - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41710 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend (Beta); (jrobson)
[21:00:19] 	 03(mod) API error "sections not supported for content model javascript" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41709  +comment (10Matthew Flaschen)
[21:01:07] 	 03(NEW) Headings with italic/bold words - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41711 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend (Beta); (jrobson)
[21:04:55] 	 03(mod) WikiEditor interface overflows out of bodyContent div - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40608  +comment (10Isarra)
[21:06:01] 	 New patchset: Reedy; "Update ProofreadPage to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf3) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31554
[21:06:12] 	 03(mod) Drop possessive in personal tools - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41672  +comment (10Krinkle)
[21:06:19] 	 Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf3) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31554
[21:06:26] 	 03(WONTFIX) re-asses support for action=raw - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37745  +comment (10Daniel Kinzler)
[21:08:53] 	 03(mod) API error "sections not supported for content model javascript" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41709  (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[21:10:57] 	 03(NEW) hewiki asks to change default image sizes for thumb and gallery - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41712 normal; Wikimedia: Site configuration; (fur.hewiki)
[21:12:01] 	 Change merged: Nikerabbit; [mediawiki/core] (REL1_20) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30951
[21:13:36] 	 03(mod) Clean up corrupted entries from file history restore bug - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41649  +comment (10Rob Lanphier)
[21:14:33] 	 New review: Hoo man; "Per Raymond on IRC ;)" [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30128
[21:14:34] 	 Change merged: Hoo man; [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30128
[21:14:55] 	 o/
[21:16:06] 	 03(mod) API error "sections not supported for content model javascript" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41709  +comment (10Brad Jorsch)
[21:16:12] 	 03(mod) Allow wiki syntax in descriptions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41560  +comment (10Daniel Kinzler)
[21:17:29] 	 New review: Hoo man; "As per Aaron, I'm worried about conditional spam as well, I think we rather should use some form of ..." [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master); V: 0 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31007
[21:21:42] 	 New patchset: Markus Kroetzsch; "Updated SMWQueryProcessor API" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31557
[21:24:45] 	 New patchset: Nikerabbit; "(bug 41295) Galician date and time localization" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31559
[21:25:05] 	 Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions/Calendar] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30608
[21:25:32] 	 03(mod) Galician date and time localization - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41295  +comment (10Niklas Laxström)
[21:25:48] 	 csteipp: got a moment? will pm
[21:25:53] 	 sumanah: Yep
[21:27:37] 	 Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions/SiteMatrix] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28241
[21:34:33] 	 New patchset: Zfilipin; "Added .gitremote file" [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31560
[21:37:28] 	 New review: Cmcmahon; "I already did this and tested it here:  https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/31485/" [qa/browsertests] (master); V: -1 C: -2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31560
[21:38:12] 	 Change abandoned: Cmcmahon; "I already did this and tested it here:  https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/31485/" [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31560
[21:38:15] 	 Change merged: Trevor Parscal; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31137
[21:39:29] 	 hi qgil!  how are you?
[21:40:01] 	 sDrewth: good to see you! do you have a moment?
[21:40:01] 	 sumanah, hey there. Accumulating patience. Otherwise good.  :)
[21:40:06] 	 qgil: I KNOW
[21:40:16] 	 I mean, you have my sympathies & my empathy
[21:40:33] 	 sure sumanah, as long as you can deal with a waking brain
[21:40:48] 	 sDrewth: ah yes, is it 8:39am there?
[21:41:06] 	 aha, and it is Saturday
[21:41:08] 	 sDrewth: remind me, do you play with templates sometimes?
[21:41:19] 	 yes
[21:41:29] 	 03(NEW) If your name is mentioned on your talk page, it should not trigger the mention action - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41713 minor; MediaWiki extensions: Echo; (rkaldari)
[21:41:37] 	 though not a supreme expert like our real nerds
[21:41:50] 	 ha
[21:42:38] 	 sDrewth: so, I know you are probably quite busy, but I have also enjoyed talking and working with you regarding getting information flowing both ways on tech changes & the wikis
[21:42:43] 	 You probably saw https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/Ambassadors
[21:42:54] 	 not busy yet, your timing is impeccable
[21:42:54] 	 sDrewth: but I want to bring your attention to https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/Ambassadors#Volunteer_product_managers 
[21:43:12] 	 In this role, they continue to act as liaison, but they also take a more active part in the creation and improvement of features. They consolidate their fellow users' needs, concerns and feedback, to provide recommendations to developers, prioritize features, and generally act as the advocates of users. They negotiate with developers to find the best balance between the users' needs and the developers' constraints. They may also attend hackathons a
[21:43:12] 	 nd other technical Wikimedia events to collaborate with developers face to face.
[21:43:50] 	 hmm, and in two weeks, I am on job sabbatcial, you are truly evil
[21:44:28] 	 sDrewth: And the reason I bring up templates is that our Lua scripting work is really ripe for a volunteer product manager right now.  Collecting use cases, helping prioritize templates for transition, & generally giving your fellow Australian Tim some data or user concerns to chew on
[21:46:40] 	 daughter arrived doe cuddles, busy for a few minutes
[21:46:43] 	 for
[21:46:49] 	 :)
[21:46:58] 	 cuddles are top-priority, you already have the keen senses of a PM :)
[21:48:48] 	 03(mod) Transwiki import to multilingual (old) wikisource broken: fix $wgImportSources - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32411  +comment (10Nemo_bis)
[21:48:49] 	 New patchset: Zfilipin; "When the test fails output link to the Sauce Labs job" [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31563
[21:48:56] 	 New review: Mwjames; "If the change wasn't required due to a bug maybe it should go into the 1.9 branch because adding thi..." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31557
[21:50:22] 	 cuddles delivered
[21:50:32] * sumanah  checks off milestone
[21:51:20] 	 sumanah: in my next two (final) weeks at this job (after soooo many years), I am loath to commit to anything, though I will ponder it, and it does have some attraction
[21:51:50] 	 sDrewth: ashley can talk with you about how much work/commitment it would be
[21:51:59] 	 have you a gut feel on the time commitment wanted
[21:52:05] 	 oh snap
[21:52:52] 	 I get the sense that it's an initial "let's get this all sorted" bunch of wiki posts, bug shuffling, and wiki table making (see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Admin_tools_development ) and then more like a couple hours a week for keeping on top of things
[21:53:47] 	 Change abandoned: CSteipp; "Not using OSM for now, so getting this out of the queue" [mediawiki/extensions/OpenStreetMapSlippyMap] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28175
[21:54:27] 	 03(mod) API error "sections not supported for content model javascript" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41709  +comment (10Matthew Flaschen)
[21:55:14] 	 sDrewth: timeline for Lua stuff is partly at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Engineering/2012-13_Goals#Site_performance 
[21:58:24] 	 sDrewth: you have a new job coming up? I presume I've already foisted https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Job_openings at you
[21:59:35] 	 sDrewth: BTW, I'd be happy to assist/support you if you do take this up; it seems to have worked reasonably-well with the Admin tools work.
[21:59:35] 	 New patchset: Reedy; "Add 10 new wikivoyage related extensions" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf3) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31564
[21:59:38] 	 hi all
[21:59:40] 	 hi dschwen 
[21:59:44] 	 sDrewth: And of course, happy to answer any questions to have. :-)
[22:00:06] 	 quick question: using the api i often get partial results and a querycontinue element
[22:00:06] 	 dschwen: How's it going?
[22:00:13] 	 pretty good
[22:00:27] 	 how do I actually continue such an api query
[22:00:29] 	 ?
[22:00:37] 	 i'm using mw.Api
[22:00:56] 	 dschwen: you need to add addtional query parameter, xxcontinue
[22:01:07] 	 with the value as returned by the previous api call
[22:01:14] 	 of course replace xx with appropriate code
[22:01:55] 	 so watchlistraw would become watchlistrawcontinue?
[22:02:07] 	 wlcontinue, probably
[22:02:07] 	 or wrcontinue?
[22:02:09] 	 no
[22:02:10] 	 the two-letter code
[22:02:13] 	 oh
[22:02:15] 	 yeah
[22:02:41] 	 and the continue argument is added where? "0|Brooklyn" for example
[22:02:58] 	 MatmaRex: would you mind adding that to the relevant document in https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API ?  I was just looking around in there and could not find this
[22:03:02] 	 in the response, querycontinue should contain another object, the key in it is the same as the parameter name
[22:04:14] 	 dschwen: so assuming you start with a query like: /w/api.php?action=query&list=watchlistraw&format=json&wrlimit=10
[22:04:35] 	 New patchset: Reedy; "Fixup whitespace etc" [mediawiki/extensions/UserFunctions] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31565
[22:04:41] 	 got it!
[22:04:48] 	 dschwen: in the response, you get "query-continue": {  "watchlistraw": {   "wrcontinue": "0|stuff" }  }
[22:04:57] 	 yeah, just tested it
[22:05:00] 	 works
[22:05:03] 	 :-)
[22:05:12] 	 the next query would be /w/api.php?action=query&list=watchlistraw&format=json&wrcontinue=0%7Cstuff&wrlimit=10
[22:05:12] 	 ah
[22:05:13] 	 great :)
[22:06:07] 	 New review: Zfilipin; "Do not +2 this commit, I am working on a fix." [qa/browsertests] (master); V: 0 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31563
[22:06:19] 	 sumanah: there seems to be something at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Query#Continuing_queries
[22:06:48] 	 weird, I guess mediawiki.org seo was kind of failing
[22:07:20] 	 sumanah: although i guess it could be described better; but i don't have time now, sorry
[22:08:19] 	 New patchset: Reedy; "Whitespace cleanup" [mediawiki/extensions/UserMerge] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31566
[22:08:23] 	 New review: Liangent; "This is the last changeset I can do in this branch currently and the branch is (almost) ready for re..." [mediawiki/core] (chinese-collation) C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31473
[22:09:03] 	 New patchset: Zfilipin; "When the test fails output link to the Sauce Labs job" [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31563
[22:09:18] 	 Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf3) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31564
[22:11:21] 	 New review: Cmcmahon; "refactoring for better naming" [qa/browsertests] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31397
[22:11:21] 	 Change merged: Cmcmahon; [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31397
[22:12:37] 	 New review: Cmcmahon; "better messaging on failure" [qa/browsertests] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31563
[22:12:37] 	 Change merged: Cmcmahon; [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31563
[22:12:53] 	 New patchset: Bsitu; "Add max-height to notification overlay" [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31333
[22:15:27] 	 New patchset: Liangent; "Fix updateCollation.php for multiple collation support" [mediawiki/core] (chinese-collation) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31473
[22:16:34] 	 03(mod) Accounts magically unattached despite being recently created - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39996  +comment (10Félix M. (elfix))
[22:17:14] 	 03(mod) Please set X-Content-Duration on OGG Video files - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41304  +comment (10Rob Lanphier)
[22:18:00] 	 wrlimit seems to default to 10
[22:18:19] 	 can I request larger result sets?
[22:18:23] 	 dschwen: i think most default to 10
[22:18:30] 	 wrlimit=max
[22:18:30] 	 03(NEW) Switch Urdu wikis Collection default format from PDF to ODF - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41714 normal; Wikimedia: Site configuration; (dereckson)
[22:18:30] 	 03(mod) Installation of Extension: Collection on Urdu Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41563  (10Dereckson)
[22:18:34] 	 (as in, literally max)
[22:18:39] 	 ok
[22:18:50] 	 the max for regular users is 500, for bots&admins 5000
[22:18:56] 	 crap, my watchlist is large
[22:19:01] 	 i think it's the same for all queries
[22:19:23] 	 any way to find out the number of results without fetching all (to implement progress meters)?
[22:19:48] 	 which is actually kinda stupid in this case, as you can see all pages on your watchlist in one request in the regular interface
[22:20:08] 	 well, there is probably an api for that ;)
[22:20:49] 	 ha!
[22:20:49] 	 btw dschwen do you ever fiddle with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:ApiSandbox ?  That Special page is on all WMF wikis
[22:20:56] 	 no, not yet
[22:21:06] 	 oh actually, a long time ago
[22:21:19] 	 thanks for reminding me
[22:21:19] 	 03(FIXED) Seeking in video files (range requests) does not work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40779  +comment (10Rob Lanphier)
[22:21:20] 	 03(ASSIGNED) Switch Urdu wikis Collection default format from PDF to ODF - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41714  +comment (10Dereckson)
[22:22:05] 	 this is nice!
[22:22:20] 	 dschwen: you can thank MaxSem who is the main author
[22:22:25] 	 New patchset: Liangent; "Fix updateCollation.php for multiple collation support" [mediawiki/core] (chinese-collation) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31473
[22:22:37] 	 andre__: oh there's another tidbit for you: MaxSem made APISandbox in case you ever have questions/bugs about that
[22:24:51] 	 New patchset: Liangent; "Fix updateCollation.php for multiple collation support" [mediawiki/core] (chinese-collation) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31473
[22:26:22] 	 New patchset: Reedy; "Add first lot of Wikivoyage extensions" [mediawiki/tools/release] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31569
[22:26:42] 	 New patchset: Reedy; "Add first lot of Wikivoyage extensions" [mediawiki/tools/release] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31569
[22:27:22] 	 Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/tools/release] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31569
[22:27:59] 	 03(NEW) Parsoid "should" eat whitespace before [[Category:]] tags - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41715 normal; Parsoid: General; (roan.kattouw)
[22:28:29] 	 sumanah: not overly job looking at the moment, after 25 years at the one organisation, I am allowing for some space.  I have had an exchange with Ashley, have had Ironholds tickle my feet, and I have emailed Tim
[22:28:44] 	 03(mod) Switch Urdu wikis Collection default format from PDF to ODF - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41714  +comment (10Dereckson)
[22:28:45] 	 okay, sDrewth!
[22:28:46] 	 thanks James_F, I will keep that in mind
[22:28:53] 	 Cool.
[22:29:54] 	 03(mod) Switch Urdu wikis Collection default format from PDF to ODF - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41714  (10Dereckson)
[22:30:33] 	 sumanah: I did tell Ironholds that if he came and helped with the chainsaw, wire fencing, spraying blackberries, and building the chook shed that I would have some more spare time over the summer
[22:30:57] 	 just to confirm - you can't have usernames that start with a lowercase, right?
[22:31:10] 	 like, yuviPanda and YuviPanda are the same account
[22:31:10] 	 03(mod) Drop possessive in personal tools - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41672  +comment (10MZMcBride)
[22:31:16] 	 btw sumanah , I haven't heard how you faired with Sandy, so I hope that things are okay for you
[22:31:17] 	 but yuviPanda and yuvipanda are not
[22:32:03] 	 03(ASSIGNED) hewiki asks to change default image sizes for thumb and gallery - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41712  +comment (10Dereckson)
[22:32:12] 	 yuvipanda: in MW you cannot have usernames starting with lc and I believe changing case for the second character onwards does indeed change the username
[22:32:30] 	 sumanah: yup, just confirming
[22:32:41] 	 btw, you *can* login with 'yuvipanda' - is treated the same as Yuvipanda
[22:32:56] 	 sDrewth: awww, thank you!  I am completely fine but there are increasingly disturbing reports of people going without electricity, water, & food deliveries to their groceries for several days straight in my state & nearby state
[22:33:16] 	 03(ASSIGNED) Parsoid "should" eat whitespace before [[Category:]] tags - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41715  +comment (10Gabriel Wicke)
[22:36:29] 	 sDrewth: 25 years at the same org, wow.  Are you getting some kind of traditional leaving ritual?
[22:36:57] 	 in Oz, we are getting much news, hear about Hoboken, Atlantic City, so it is the individual cases like "how are you" that are now important :-)
[22:37:17] 	 :)
[22:37:34] 	 I am doing my best to avoid all ritual, though as I have 13 sites, finding that it is a drawn out affair
[22:37:42] 	 I feel very lucky to be where I am on Maslow's hierarchy of needs.
[22:38:00] 	 New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "Added TMH table." [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaMaintenance] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31572
[22:38:13] 	 Maslow, such a happy useful fellow.  Good to hear that you are okay.
[22:38:16] 	 New patchset: Reedy; "Add TimedMediaHandler schema" [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaMaintenance] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31573
[22:38:47] 	 RoanKattouw: I don't suppose you have time to take a gander at the script
[22:39:28] 	 Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaMaintenance] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31572
[22:39:31] 	 Change abandoned: Reedy; "(no reason)" [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaMaintenance] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31573
[22:41:20] 	 AaronSchulz: Sling it to me and I'll look
[22:41:44] 	 RoanKattouw: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/31350/4
[22:41:59] * AaronSchulz  wonders if it makes sense without someone explaining it...we will see
[22:43:44] 	 is there someone available with access to labs, who would please restart a bot for me?
[22:44:00] 	 COIBot, the instructions are at root of the account
[22:45:29] 	 03(NEW) Support language variant conversion in Parsoid - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41716 normal; Parsoid: General; (liangent)
[22:45:36] 	 New patchset: Trevor Parscal; "Improved the responsiveness of the context menu" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31576
[22:46:46] 	 New patchset: Reedy; "Make matching of delete case-insensitive" [mediawiki/tools/code-utils] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31577
[22:47:03] 	 03(mod) Support language variant conversion in Parsoid - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41716  +comment (10Gabriel Wicke)
[22:47:14] 	 Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/tools/code-utils] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31577
[22:48:29] 	 03(mod) Mass update Wiktionary favicons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40212   +patch-in-gerrit; +comment (10Nemo_bis)
[22:51:36] 	 New patchset: Reedy; "delete -> deleted" [mediawiki/tools/code-utils] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31578
[22:51:49] 	 Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/tools/code-utils] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31578
[22:53:23] 	 New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "To test what?" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31374
[22:54:21] 	 New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "I don't feel like spending my time on writing a test for this line" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31374
[22:57:37] 	 New patchset: Hoo man; "Disable editing for non-global accounts" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralAuth] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29721
[22:58:17] 	 New review: Hoo man; "Code comments and message wording" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralAuth] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29721
[23:02:21] 	 Change merged: Hoo man; [mediawiki/extensions/CentralAuth] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29721
[23:04:52] 	 03(mod) Wikipedia sends desktop site to Boot2Gecko (Firefox OS) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40919  +comment (10Jon)
[23:05:05] 	 03(mod) Blackberry 10 SDK dev device doesn't redirect to mobile site - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40513  +comment (10Jon)
[23:05:49] 	 03(mod) Windows 8/RT Internet Explorer 10 given non-JS version of mobile site - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41517  +comment (10Jon)
[23:15:44] 	 New review: Catrope; "Looks good otherwise" [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaMaintenance] (master); V: 0 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31350
[23:20:16] 	 14(WFM) Need help fixing failed move (database corrupt?) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35123  +comment (10Krinkle)
[23:20:19] 	 03(mod) Database table cleanup (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/16660  (10Krinkle)
[23:20:25] 	 03(mod) Improve the keyboard navigation for TMH - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41695  +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman)
[23:20:55] 	 is there an authorized short url provider for mediawiki.org? bit.li triggers Spam protection filter
[23:21:03] 	 bit.ly
[23:21:42] 	 qgil: I don't think there is.
[23:21:55] 	 qgil: I think we just discourage it
[23:22:02] 	 New review: Hoo man; "As there are still some users around who can't use global accounts, we can't use this like this, as ..." [mediawiki/extensions/CentralAuth] (master); V: 0 C: -2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16922
[23:22:12] 	 and you should use [URL  description] syntax instead
[23:22:20] 	 sumanah, I have a couple of URLs (that you will find interesting) containing brackets: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Community_Metrics#Drafting_Bugzilla_metrics
[23:22:55] 	 qgil: there's something you can do to tell MediaWiki to encode that URL to avoid that problem
[23:23:15] 	 looking it up
[23:23:24] 	 thanks
[23:23:39] 	 example: https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=User:Sharihareswara_%28WMF%29/Maintainers/ComponentRow&diff=prev&oldid=600507
[23:23:41] 	 I think
[23:25:31] 	 03(mod) Video thumbs are not accessible to the visually impaired - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41696  +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman)
[23:27:17] 	 New patchset: Trevor Parscal; "Improved the responsiveness of the context menu" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31576
[23:27:18] 	 sumanah, I'll try http://www.mwusers.com/forums/showthread.php?4550-escape-square-brackets-in-url
[23:28:02] 	 New review: Hoo man; "Unit tests would be nice to have as well." [mediawiki/extensions/CentralAuth] (master); V: 0 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28902
[23:28:58] 	 it works! thanks for pointing to the right direction sumanah 
[23:29:23] 	 yay!
[23:29:48] 	 03(NEW) Update default (language-neutral) Wiktionary logo - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41717 normal; Wikimedia: Site configuration; (federicoleva)
[23:30:09] 	 03(mod) Video thumbs are not accessible to the visually impaired - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41696   +accessibility (10Sumana Harihareswara)
[23:35:54] 	 New patchset: Robmoen; "Improved the responsiveness of the context menu" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31576
[23:36:11] 	 New patchset: Alex Monk; "(bug 23821) Add an API module for deleting global accounts" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralAuth] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28902
[23:37:54] 	 sumanah, need to go now but thee you have the URL with some preliminary links. I'll nag Andre to see if we can have Bugzilla stats in the next monthly report.  :)
[23:38:07] 	 thanks!
[23:38:10] 	 bye
[23:40:00] 	 New patchset: Hoo man; "(bug 20188) Show a note at Special:Block when the user is globally locked." [mediawiki/extensions/CentralAuth] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30929
[23:40:43] 	 New review: Hoo man; "Message wording, minor" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralAuth] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30929
[23:41:31] 	 03(mod) Update default (language-neutral) Wiktionary logo - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41717   +patch-in-gerrit; +comment (10Nemo_bis)
[23:41:36] 	 Krenair: ^ You might want to take a look
[23:41:38] 	 I saw
[23:41:45] 	 looks good to me
[23:41:51] 	 03(mod) Update default (language-neutral) Wiktionary logo - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41717  (10Nemo_bis)
[23:42:14] 	 Change merged: Hoo man; [mediawiki/extensions/CentralAuth] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30929
[23:43:06] 	 03(FIXED) Add a note on Special:Block if the account is already globally locked - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/20188  +comment (10Krenair)
[23:43:23] 	 hoo, any thoughts on how to determine where the user was locked from?
[23:43:41] 	 If that can be done, we can add a link as well (like global blocking does)
[23:43:50] 	 Krenair: Hardly, no... why didn't you link it to Special:CentralAuth
[23:44:11] 	 The hook allows links, doesn't it?!
[23:44:13] 	 yes
[23:44:48] 	 I don't think CentralAuth is much use here
[23:44:56] 	 It just says that the user is locked
[23:46:03] 	 RoanKattouw: hmm so the ' seem to be escaped as \'
[23:46:12] * AaronSchulz  wonders if there is some easy trick for this
[23:46:14] 	 Yeah I thought so
[23:46:16] 	 Well, but the admin then at least know that this is caused by "this global account thingy" and he can see why
[23:46:29] 	 I figured it was \ but had to check
[23:46:40] 	 Finding out on which wiki the user was logged is almost impossible with the current DB layout
[23:47:31] 	 ashley: ^ just so you know about this conversation :)
[23:47:33] 	 You can bikeshed some more with the text of the note
[23:48:14] 	 mhm, what exactly do you mean?
[23:48:54] 	 I mean I don't care whether it explains the global locking system or not
[23:50:23] 	 03(mod) hewiki asks to change default image sizes for thumb and gallery - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41712   +patch-in-gerrit +shell; +comment (10Dereckson)
[23:50:39] 	 It shouldn't explain it, probably, but a link to Special:CentralAuth sounds good to me
[23:50:57] 	 that makes it possible to see what the account did to get locked on other wikis
[23:51:40] 	 So, take the most recently locked user on wikimedia:
[23:51:41] 	 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/LeaenzgllF
[23:52:00] 	 it does not sure anything about why it was locked, just "Locked: yes"
[23:52:15] 	 03(mod) document.getElementById("results") is null - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41669  +comment (10Jon)
[23:52:24] 	 special:CentralAuth is useless for explaining why it was locked, it simply does not do that
[23:52:29] 	 That account is a spam bot w/o edits, no one would try to block it anyway
[23:52:50] 	 I know, but it can give further information and helps the user to make a link to CA
[23:52:54] 	 (in his brain)
[23:53:04] 	 You can swap the account name for any other, no log entries will magically appear
[23:53:49] * hoo  searches for a non-spam example...
[23:54:08] 	 https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:CentralAuth&target=Bosmongool
[23:54:33] 	 If the admin follow this link, he can see that this user was already blocked on nlwiki and is globally locked
[23:54:43] 	 and in case he can read dutch, that the user name is abusive :P
[23:54:48] 	 With a name like that, I'm not surprised
[23:56:32] 	 Okay fine, let's link to Special:CentralAuth then
[23:57:03] 	 Krenair: Ok, will you or shall I?
[23:57:49] 	 I will, what is the new text?
[23:58:46] 	 The user [[Special:CentralAuth/$1|$1]] ...