[00:24:39] New patchset: Hoo man; "Maintenance for Renameuser extension." [mediawiki/extensions/Renameuser] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23986 [00:30:06] New review: Hoo man; "Looks good beside that" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/3981 [00:40:53] New review: Reedy; "Same as Swedish, this probably needs upstreaming to https://github.com/wikimedia/jquery.ime" [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31808 [00:41:12] Does mediawiki work with MySql cluster? [00:41:36] yeah [00:41:38] that's what the WMF uses [00:42:14] Is there any doco that I can read for installing MediaWiki and configuring it with MySQL Cluster? [00:42:42] use http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgDBservers [00:42:47] No it isn't [00:43:26] MySQL cluster is somewhat of a different product [00:43:36] wat [00:43:53] http://dev.mysql.com/downloads/cluster/7.1.html [00:43:54] RTFM [00:44:00] the WMF does use $wgDBservers, AFAIK [00:44:09] MySQL Cluster is set up [00:44:17] Yes, but not mysql cluster, which is what you originally replied saying yeah [00:44:21] I just need the configuration and installation for the MediaWiki [00:44:22] It should work.. [00:44:31] Just run the installer and try it? [00:44:38] I think there is/was a bug or 2 reported about it [00:44:43] MySQL Cluster is the backend [00:45:01] the installer will talk to one instance from what I am reading [00:45:11] since it asks for a host [00:45:28] MW works fine with a defined master for writes, and a list of slaves [00:45:58] so it's an after installation change? [00:46:10] yeah [00:48:38] And MediaWiki can be installed on multiple web servers connecting to the cluster? [00:48:48] yes [00:48:50] ty [00:49:16] SaingCrowdness1: you seem to be running a large site... [00:49:22] SaintCrowdness1* [00:49:46] no a large site, but I'm doing a proof of concept for HA [00:49:49] not [00:50:01] which will be eventually used for a large site [00:50:43] so the lab is configured with MySQL Cluster, dual web servers, load balancers, etc. [00:56:21] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "Rules for Islandic language" [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31809 [01:01:46] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "Rules for Swedish" [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31806 [01:03:04] SaintCrowdness1: have you used MySQL cluster before? [01:03:15] TimStarling: No [01:03:42] I don't think you would want to run MediaWiki on it [01:03:49] why not? [01:04:26] I think it is mostly aimed at applications with a high write rate, which wikis typically do not have [01:05:10] it is buggy, and you can get adequate performance out of plain MySQL for pretty much any conceivable scale [01:05:13] well the rest of my infrastructure is using MySQL Cluster... so either I set up MySQL just for MediaWiki and have a server just for it, which I could. [01:06:16] Your suggestion would be to set up two web servers, which are already load balanced and just set up MySQL instance just for MediaWiki? [01:07:35] no, my suggestion is to consider whether you need MySQL cluster at all [01:07:53] I'm just concerned that if you haven't used it before, you might be basing your decision on brochure hype [01:07:55] We definitely need MySQL Cluster [01:08:03] but if you know what it is and what it's for, then fine [01:08:08] Yes I do [01:08:31] The other Apps that will be using it need it [01:08:37] I'm just trying to use what exists [01:09:03] ok [01:09:09] but since the MediaWiki is only going to be used right now for Doco and for the Developers, it doesn't HAVE to be on the infrasturre [01:09:17] I can build a VM just for MediaWiki [01:09:30] so it would be self contained [01:09:30] you could [01:09:45] I have no issue doing that if that's the best suggestion [01:09:59] We have it stood up that way until we tore down the lab [01:10:18] I think it makes sense to separate low-traffic services from high-traffic services [01:10:41] You will get no argument from me there [01:10:42] that way you don't risk having the big site take down the small one, or vice versa, with an overload [01:11:15] Thanks that is a very helpful suggestion [01:11:53] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "Rules for Norwegian" [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31753 [01:12:14] New patchset: Nischayn22; "Improve Updatiion of Property counts." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31754 [01:17:44] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "Northern Sami language" [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31751 [01:21:45] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "Rules for Danish" [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31807 [01:28:51] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "Rules for Faroese language" [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31808 [01:45:37] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "Rules for Islandic language" [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31809 [02:04:08] 03(NEW) Checkuser rights not being correctly applied on test.wikipedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41772 normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (wikimedia.bugs) [02:06:54] 03(mod) Checkuser rights not being correctly applied on test.wikipedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41772 normal->04CRIT (10Krenair) [02:07:30] Is it really critical? [02:07:40] It's not like someone who shouldn't have it, has it [02:08:07] Code red. [02:08:25] 03(mod) Checkuser rights not being correctly applied on test.wikipedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41772 (10Krenair) [02:08:26] 03(mod) Steward, global sysop and SWMT tasks bugs (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41492 (10Krenair) [02:10:06] Reedy, well it's stopping stewards from performing CU checks on at least that wiki, I'd say it's pretty high priority/importance but please put it down if you disagree [02:10:13] * Krenair will be back later [02:10:48] Bad bug. [02:10:49] Done [02:15:39] It's also a test wiki [02:20:30] I'm assuming that if this happens on testwiki it also happens on other wikis, Reedy [02:20:59] That's a weird assumption. [02:21:49] Really? [02:55:40] New review: SPQRobin; "Well, the documentation is right in that it may be both a Language object and a string, to make it e..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31650 [02:56:13] TimStarling: will there be anything really wrong with making a namespace alias - http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat#Proposal:_Enable_WD_as_a_search.2Fnavigation_shortcut ? [02:57:22] 03(mod) Wikibase Repo: Catchable fatal error: Argument 2 passed to Wikibase\RepoHooks::onPageContentLanguage() must be an instance of Language, string given - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41667 +comment (10Robin Pepermans (SPQRobin)) [03:01:04] probably not [03:01:41] 03(mod) post expand size counted multiple times for nested transclusions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/13260 +comment (10CBM) [03:26:43] New review: Santhosh; "These patches should go to upstream https://github.com/wikimedia/jquery.ime as pull requests." [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31807 [03:58:20] I'm working on an extension and I'm wondering where the article text is stored in the mediawiki database. [03:59:01] I couldn't find the right field in the page table [04:00:16] New patchset: Liangent; "Fix updateCollation.php for multiple collation support" [mediawiki/core] (chinese-collation) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31473 [04:03:29] New patchset: Liangent; "Fix updateCollation.php for multiple collation support" [mediawiki/core] (chinese-collation) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31473 [04:04:49] New patchset: Drecodeam; "Implement uploading images from Flickr" [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12269 [04:06:45] New review: Krinkle; "k, fwiw: one can +2 without merging. They are two separate actions." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30994 [04:14:56] New review: Krinkle; "-1 for strtolower." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31728 [04:15:35] New patchset: Krinkle; "Clean up: Fix trailing comments from I7e22cc3c" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31128 [04:16:09] New patchset: Krinkle; "mw.loader: Fixes for