[00:00:32] Krenair: yes [00:00:35] Git remotes point to other repositories on other computers. E.g. ssh://krenair@gerrit.wikimedia.org:29418/mediawiki/core.git [00:01:01] Okay so you have it set up as origin [00:01:03] What was the command you were running? [00:01:26] Hmm... So Krenair for that, having wiki_id in a variable would work, because I think a regex would pretty easily get you all wikis of a language [00:01:31] git push-for-review [00:01:56] 03(mod) Parsoid: Please remove mw:Placeholder wrapper for first newline in 
 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41753  +comment (10Roan Kattouw)
[00:02:04] 	 Something like wiki_id like "en*"
[00:02:06] 	 I (guess) have commited my changes to the local repo successfully
[00:02:54] 	 Oh also feob, you should see https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Git/New_repositories/Requests/Entries&diff=next&oldid=601106
[00:03:16] 	 Pretty sure you have an account though..
[00:03:32] 	 yes, ^demon has added me
[00:03:47] 	 I can see that I am admin when I log into gerrit
[00:03:49] 	 03(mod) JobQueue not working: no jobs run except for high-priority ones like enotif - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41656  +comment (10Rob Lanphier)
[00:03:50] 	 03(mod) Next wmf deployment (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38865  (10Rob Lanphier)
[00:03:51] 	 03(mod) Bugs affecting translatewiki.net (errors from MediaWiki master) (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39480  (10Rob Lanphier)
[00:04:18] 	 feob, everyone can see those admin projects/groups list
[00:04:20] 	 New review: Krinkle; "Of course backends need to be sure that input is still correct from the frontend (that should happen..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23995
[00:04:21] 	 lists
[00:04:33] 	 feob, git remote add origin ssh://feob@gerrit.wikimedia.org:29418/mediawiki/extensions/SemanticImageAnnotator.git
[00:04:48] 	 uh, wait. You already have origin, change that to gerrit
[00:05:20] 	 Then do try push-for-review
[00:05:26] 	 New patchset: Bsitu; "Add a "mention" notification" [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30438
[00:05:43] 	 03(mod) MediaWiki core tests are slower since Precise upgrade - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41607  +comment (10Tim Starling)
[00:06:06] 	 03(mod) Assumes Dutch on first visit, then switches to English - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41451  +comment (10Rob Lanphier)
[00:06:33] 	 New patchset: awjrichards; "Updating MobileFrontend to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31983
[00:06:48] 	 Change merged: awjrichards; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31983
[00:07:04] 	 error: src refspec HEAS does not match any.
[00:07:27] 	 New review: Demon; "We can easily setup mw.org to send the file as text/plain." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31881
[00:08:19] 	 feob, can you please pastebin the entire console output of the command?
[00:09:41] 	 Change merged: Trevor Parscal; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31960
[00:10:22] 	 http://pastebin.com/EjbF3iaJ
[00:12:04] 	 Thanks a lot for trying to help me, btw ;)
[00:12:16] 	 03(mod) document.getElementById("results") is null - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41669  +comment (10Arthur Richards)
[00:13:23] 	 04(REOPENED) Parsoid: Please remove mw:Placeholder wrapper for first newline in 
 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41753  +comment (10Gabriel Wicke)
[00:13:31] 	 feob, did you make a mistake when running the alias for push-for-review?
[00:13:36] 	 03(mod) Parsoid: Please remove mw:Placeholder wrapper for first newline in 
 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41753  +comment (10Gabriel Wicke)
[00:13:45] 	 The command is
[00:13:45] 	  git config --global alias.push-for-review "push gerrit HEAD:refs/for/master"
[00:13:45] 	 why not just "git push origin HEAD:master"
[00:14:15] 	 feob: trying to push directly to extension master or for review in gerrit?
[00:15:14] 	 New patchset: Feob; "initial import" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticImageAnnotator] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31984
[00:15:51] 	 feob, look at that gerrit-wm line :)
[00:16:44] 	 yes, seems like that was the case! https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/31984/
[00:17:15] 	 Now you should be able to approve that straight into the repo if you want
[00:17:46] 	 okay, great! Thank you very much!!
[00:18:36] 	 I still need to understand the workflow though. It is _very_ confusing, since I only worked with subversion so far...
[00:21:28] 	 New patchset: Trevor Parscal; "Fixed line-height variations between sa and mw integrations" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31986
[00:22:39] 	 hm, So as far as I understand I have pushed my "change" (which is initial import) to gerrit and need to approve that now, right ?
[00:22:53] 	 feob, yep
[00:23:00] 	 New patchset: Alex Monk; "Drop posessive in notifications personal tool" [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31988
[00:23:00] 	 You want me to help you do that?
[00:23:15] 	 ;) that would be nice° ;)
[00:23:33] 	 I got that commit url from git - what do I do there ?
[00:24:05] 	 Under Patch set 1 you have lots of info and buttons about this first version of the change
[00:24:18] 	 There's a 'Review' button
[00:24:39] 	 yes
[00:24:45] 	 To approve a change and merge it, you review -> +1 Verified, +2 Looks good to me, approved. Then hit Publish and Submit
[00:25:29] 	 New review: Feob; "initial import of the SemanticImageAnnotator extension." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticImageAnnotator] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31984
[00:25:29] 	 Change merged: Feob; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticImageAnnotator] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31984
[00:25:33] 	 ha!
[00:25:36] 	 tada
[00:25:38] 	 look at that ! ;)
[00:25:45] 	 New review: Tim Starling; "Rebase fails." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30770
[00:25:46] 	 I'm famous ;)
[00:25:49] 	 New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "[JobQueue] Abstracted nextJobDB.php to not assume JobQueueDB." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31594
[00:26:00] 	 So now when people clone your extension from gerrit, they get your files which you just uploaded
[00:27:34] 	 Very nice of you to help me with that! Thanks a lot!
[00:29:44] 	 So for subsequent changes: I will first commit them to my local repo with git commit and then push them to gerrit with git push-for-review (windows), right ?
[00:30:27] 	 03(FIXED) MediaWiki core tests are slower since Precise upgrade - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41607  +comment (10Tim Starling)
[00:32:02] 	 feob, you're welcome
[00:32:09] 	 feob, yes
[00:33:32] 	 And if I commit multiple changes/commits to my local repo, will it push all the changes made to gerrit? 
[00:34:00] 	 yeah
[00:34:06] 	 you'll get a changeset per commit
[00:34:49] 	 New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "[FileBackend] Avoid some stat calls in various operations." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30770
[00:37:33] 	 RoanKattouw: can you merge https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/31350/ as a formality if it's ok?
[00:39:15] 	 Change merged: Catrope; [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaMaintenance] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31350
[00:39:24] 	 AaronSchulz: Merged
[00:43:43] 	 New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "Fixed version docs for job queue." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31989
[00:44:20] 	 New review: Daniel Friesen; "@Demon, there might be a few issues with that:" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31881
[00:44:42] 	 03(mod) New Messages count is not updated after marking all threads as read - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24292  (10mybugs.mail)
[00:44:46] 	 I have seen some extensions that link a .tgz file to download directly from gerrit - is this easily possible ?
[00:47:11] 	 feob, yes, https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?a=snapshot;h=refs/heads/master;sf=tgz;p=mediawiki/extensions/SemanticImageAnnotator.git
[00:48:38] 	 New patchset: Catrope; "Add change marking for Parsoid's benefit" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31990
[00:50:45] 	 feob: We also have templates for that purpose on MW.org
[00:51:52] 	 DanielFriesen: Could you give me a pointer ?
[00:52:00] 	 New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "Changed logfile param to logdir." [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaMaintenance] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31992
[00:52:04] 	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Template:WikimediaDownload
[00:52:24] 	 Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaMaintenance] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31992
[00:52:24] 	 It seems to include .gitreview and .gitignore files
[00:52:29] 	 ;) long as it's not connected to a trackpad
[00:52:44] 	 Almost all extension pages use this inside their Template:Extension download param
[00:52:44] 	 Yeah, it's a snapshot of the repo.
[00:54:12] 	 Though *technically* I think you can control that...
[00:54:42] 	 03(NEW) TextContent expects a string in the constructor - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41801 normal; MediaWiki: ContentHandler; (sam)
[00:58:09] 	 03(mod) Adding project identification variable to AbuseFilter - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41172  +comment (10Krenair)
[01:00:53] 	 New patchset: Mwjames; "Funny things happen around SMW" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31994
[01:00:53] 	 If I add that template to the download parameter, the "Donwnload Snapshot" (Special:ExtensionDistributor/SemanticImageAnnotator) fails, but the other links work correctly
[01:02:09] 	 (e.g. repo summary, tree and code changes)
[01:02:15] 	 03(mod) Adding project identification variable to AbuseFilter - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41172  +comment (10Ajraddatz)
[01:02:16] 	 New review: Ori.livneh; "@Jforrester: I don't think so -- we shouldn't allow the homophony of the two UIs to totally collapse..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31728
[01:02:38] 	 ori-l: Fine by me. :-)
[01:03:37] 	 James_F: glad you made the suggestion anyhow; i didn't know about it. still finding my way.
[01:06:11] 	 New patchset: Reedy; "Add CreditsSource to wikivoyage section" [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaMaintenance] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31995
[01:09:48] 	 New patchset: Kaldari; "Tweaking CSS of badge display per Vibha'a design" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31997
[01:13:32] 	 Change merged: Kaldari; [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31988
[01:14:40] 	 New review: Mwjames; "Albany to King Lear" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31994
[01:14:40] 	 Change merged: Mwjames; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31994
[01:21:28] 	 03(mod) Localize number in 'wikibase-propertyedittool-counter' and 'wikibase-propertyedittool-counter-pending' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41795   +i18n (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[01:22:02] 	 03(mod) User Preference page needs to be fixed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41792  +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[01:22:29] 	 03(mod) Cannot preview deleted files - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41794  normal->minor (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[01:29:19] 	 03(mod) [Regression] jquery.badge.js now only accepts numbers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40059  normal->minor (10Ryan Kaldari)
[01:30:24] 	 03(ASSIGNED) [Regression] jquery.badge.js now only accepts numbers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40059  (10Ryan Kaldari)
[01:33:57] 	 New patchset: J?r?mie Roquet; "Fix a typo in input field id" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32000
[01:36:12] 	 03(mod) Rename Special:Version to Special:About - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41555  +comment (10Krinkle)
[01:36:42] 	 03(mod) Rename Special:Version to Special:Software - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41555  summary (10Krinkle)
[01:36:50] 	 03(mod) Rename Special:Version to Special:Software - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41555  normal->15enhancement (10Krinkle)
[01:41:32] 	 New patchset: Reedy; "Losslessly compress images" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticImageAnnotator] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32002
[01:41:58] 	 Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticImageAnnotator] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32002
[01:42:12] 	 New review: Reedy; "reedy@ubuntu64-web-esxi:/var/www/wiki/mediawiki/extensions/SemanticImageAnnotator$ git pull" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticImageAnnotator] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32002
[01:48:33] 	 03(mod) Minor edit checkbox seems to be ticked as default sometimes! - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41760  +comment (10Liangent)
[01:50:50] 	 New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "Handle content newlines in the log dumps." [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaMaintenance] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32006
[01:52:08] 	 Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaMaintenance] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32006
[01:52:40] 	 New patchset: Mwalker; "Track how many banners have been seen" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32007
[02:08:09] 	 New patchset: Adamw; "(FR #615) Skrill/Moneybookers integration" [mediawiki/extensions/DonationInterface] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23160
[02:08:09] 	 Trying to set up my git workflow. ihavenoideawhatimdoing.jpg. Trying to push, I get "! [remote rejected] master -> master (can not update the reference as a fast forward)
[02:08:09] 	 ". I have tried rebasing, and have checked my username and email.
[02:08:24] 	 New patchset: Reedy; "Add some braces, some profiling calls" [mediawiki/extensions/ReplaceText] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32009
[02:08:39] 	 Are you using git push?
[02:09:08] 	 Yes, I think so. Right click -> push with Tortoise git.
[02:09:24] 	 That won't work
[02:09:43] 	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Workflow#Windows
[02:10:23] 	 OK, I got some reading to do. :-p
[02:10:27] 	 Thanks.
[02:14:52] 	 New patchset: Reedy; "Add UserMerge to branched extensions" [mediawiki/tools/release] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32010
[02:28:20] 	 Where do I find git bash? I'm looking in the msysgit directory, but I don't see anything named bash.
[02:29:05] 	 Oh, in /bin.
[02:33:25] 	 "In Git Bash, go to the directory of the fresh MediaWiki clone and run git-review -s. This should install a git hook called "commit-msg" under .git/hooks." Instead, it throws an error message that ends with "The system cannot find the file specified." I'm not sure which file it can't find, since it looks like it can find git-review.bat.
[02:38:37] 	 hi tunabananas 
[02:39:12] 	 ahoy!  o/
[02:41:16] 	 New patchset: Adamw; "(FR #615) Skrill/Moneybookers integration" [mediawiki/extensions/DonationInterface] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23160
[02:55:30] 	 03(NEW) Page loading incompletely on ml.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41802 normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (vssun9)
[02:55:35] 	 ashley: got a moment?
[02:57:27] 	 03(mod) Page moves of files on commons slow - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41612  +comment (10Aaron Schulz)
[03:09:10] 	 03(FIXED) File description page not accessible inside  - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41762  (10Jan Gerber)
[03:09:37] 	 03(FIXED) TimedMediaHandler causes PHP strict standards warnings - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41708  (10Jan Gerber)
[03:10:11] 	 03(FIXED) leaving fullscreen, page should scroll to video - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41650  (10Jan Gerber)
[03:10:22] 	 03(mod) Localize logo for ml.wiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41785  +comment (10sunil)
[03:14:23] 	 New patchset: kroocsiogsi; "Roll in SoundManager 2.97a.20121104 files" [mediawiki/extensions/SoundManager2Button] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32011
[03:14:38] 	 Jiminy cricket, lookit that.
[03:18:13] 	 Do changes take a little while to show up on gerrit.wikimedia.org, or did I do something wrong?
[03:25:26] 	 Oh, I see. It's showing up in the review log.
[03:47:46] 	 New patchset: Liangent; "(bug 40588) LinkSearch cannot search with a port in the url" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28908
[03:52:51] 	 03(mod) MediaWiki core tests are slower since Precise upgrade - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41607  +comment (10Krinkle)
[03:56:00] 	 New patchset: Liangent; "(bug 40588) LinkSearch cannot search with a port in the url" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28908
[04:09:58] 	 03(mod) Rename Special:Version to Special:Software - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41555   +easy (10MZMcBride)
[04:14:36] 	 I must be rusty, this new install is not cooperating  http://www.everythingfoodanddrink.org/MlpearcWiki/index.php?title=Main_Page
[04:14:47] 	 any ideas ?
[04:14:59] 	 antone :P
[04:15:01] 	 *anyone
[04:15:29] 	 won't change to vector
[04:20:47] 	 Hi Mlpearc.
[04:21:03] 	 Hello Brooke 
[04:21:12] 	 http://www.everythingfoodanddrink.org/MlpearcWiki/load.php seems to work fine...
[04:22:04] 	 Everything on my lovaganzawiki.com has dissapeared
[04:22:04] 	 No modules requested. Max made me put this here
[04:22:42] 	 Brooke: not working for me
[04:22:48] 	 Mlpearc: Is it possible you're missing the skins directory?
[04:22:52] 	 Or you've set $wgSkins to something funky?
[04:22:56] 	 $wgSkin, rather.
[04:22:56] 	 2 months of work gone to oblivion
[04:23:18] 	 http://www.everythingfoodanddrink.org/MlpearcWiki/skins/monobook/IE60Fixes.css is fine...
[04:23:18] 	 Very good Brooke let me check
[04:23:49] 	 http://www.everythingfoodanddrink.org/MlpearcWiki/skins/common/images/wiki.png also works.
[04:24:09] 	 'How do you get theese url's :P
[04:24:11] 	 lol
[04:24:23] 	 I know experience 
[04:24:50] 	 please let me know if someone can help me retrieve all lost info from wikilovaganza
[04:25:20] 	 http://www.everythingfoodanddrink.org/MlpearcWiki/load.php?debug=false&lang=en&only=styles&skin=vector&*&modules=mediawiki.legacy.commonPrint works...
[04:25:27] 	 the skins dir seems ok
[04:25:30] 	 jfgagnon: What happened?
[04:25:57] 	 My employee set up this account.  All was working fine for 2 months and then one day everything was gone
[04:26:12] 	 Oh, heh.
[04:26:20] 	 Mlpearc: You have a www. vs. non-www issue, it looks like.
[04:26:43] 	 The page shows up, it asks for username and everything
[04:26:53] 	 but all content is gone
[04:26:56] 	 ah, a dev did change all that stuff a couple months ago
[04:27:21] 	 Thank you Brooke 
[04:27:35] 	 http://www.wikilovaganza.com/index.php/Main_Page
[04:28:03] 	 I get ahold of the dev
[04:28:44] 	 I'm not sure it's the www thing that's causing the weirdness.
[04:28:56] 	 It's 301ing properly.
[04:29:34] 	 Brooke - is this answer for me?
[04:29:41] 	 I used a "quick install" function from my host
[04:29:50] 	 it's worked fine beforer
[04:30:30] 	 Yeah...
[04:30:59] 	 jfgagnon: Down for maintenance? Your wiki was working at some point, presumaboy?
[04:31:27] 	 presumably
[04:31:30] 	 So tell us what happened so that it's now broken.
[04:31:33] 	 What steps you took, etc.
[04:31:35] 	 jfgagnon: ^
[04:31:42] 	 Yes it was.... but since I think around the 27 the content dissapeared
[04:32:07] 	 Brooke - all content disappeared on the 27th ofoctober
[04:32:21] 	 Mlpearc: Yeah, your issue definitely seems www related.
[04:32:28] 	 before that it was working perfectly fine
[04:32:43] 	 Compare: http://everythingfoodanddrink.org/MlpearcWiki/load.php?debug=false&lang=en&only=styles&skin=vector&*&modules=mediawiki.legacy.commonPrint%2Cshared%7Cskins.vector
[04:32:48] 	 kk, i'll head that direction
[04:32:52] 	 http://www.everythingfoodanddrink.org/MlpearcWiki/load.php?debug=false&lang=en&only=styles&skin=vector&*&modules=mediawiki.legacy.commonPrint%2Cshared%7Cskins.vector
[04:32:58] 	 See the difference there?
[04:33:28] 	 Mlpearc: What do you have for $wgServer in LocalSettings.php?
[04:33:36] 	 I should be able to work and install extensions Brooke ?
[04:33:43] * Mlpearc  looking
[04:33:58] 	 Yeah, extensions should be mostly fine.
[04:34:00] 	 You really should get this problem fixed first, though.
[04:34:44] 	 http://everythingfoodanddrink.org
[04:34:52] 	 ah, should be www.efd
[04:35:00] 	 :-)
[04:35:45] 	 brooke - now if I try to login, it says There is no user by the name "jfgagnon"
[04:36:31] 	 jfgagnon: So it just disappeared one day?
[04:36:40] 	 Did you try to do an upgrade or anything?
[04:36:45] 	 Or shit just broke one day?
[04:37:01] 	 Yes, about 50 pages of hard work haha!
[04:37:08] 	 Brooke: Funny none of the other wiki's have anything set in $wgServer
[04:37:16] 	 I am not aware of any upgrade no
[04:38:32] 	 http://www.everythingfoodanddrink.org/MlpearcWiki/index.php?title=Main_Page     Brooke 
[04:38:33] 	 :)
[04:38:41] 	 Thank you :)
[04:39:31] 	 Heh, no problem.
[04:39:38] 	 I only helped 'cause I recognized your nick. ;-)
[04:39:49] 	 rly
[04:39:52] 	 cool
[04:40:02] 	 You're from en.wiki, right?
[04:40:06] 	 yeah
[04:40:08] 	 jfgagnon: I'm trying to figure out if you did something to break this or if it got broken in some other way.
[04:41:03] 	 http://www.wikilovaganza.com/index.php/Special:ListUsers looks decent...
[04:41:10] 	 jfgagnon: Who are you trying to log in as?
[04:41:28] 	 brooke - yes I want to know too so we can either forget about all that work or if you guys can reactivate it in any way
[04:41:48] 	 with my user name jfgagnon
[04:41:52] 	 There's no user with that name.
[04:42:04] 	 http://www.wikilovaganza.com/index.php/Special:ListUsers is the full user list currently.
[04:42:10] 	 Do any of those usernames look familiar?
[04:42:12] 	 Maybe Admin?
[04:42:19] 	 That's the first account.
[04:43:07] 	 wow.... I have no idea who these people are...exept the admin
[04:43:28] 	 They're mostly new users.
[04:43:36] 	 Probably spammers or something.
[04:43:42] 	 Do you have the password for "Admin"?
[04:43:44] 	 Can you log in?
[04:44:58] 	 Ok one sec I'm asking my admin (Dennis Lai) for password
[04:45:24] 	 They are all users after the thing crashed
[04:47:34] 	 so... how do we get this harsh guy from wikitech-l to IRC?...
[04:48:05] 	 jfgagnon: You may be able to reset the password via e-mail.
[04:48:05] 	 All user names match Xrumer standard running mode, Brooke.
[04:48:13] 	 If you have an authenticated e-mail address.
[04:48:20] 	 Amgine: Gay.
[04:48:21] 	 Jeremyb: who is it, and why do you want them here rather than there?
[04:48:35] 	 Amgine: well read the thread...
[04:49:06] 	 I don't volunteer for that kind of idiocy, normally. I'll go look at the archives.
[04:49:30] 	 Amgine: you could read the last 3-4 msgs on it, don't have the read the whole thing
[04:49:41] 	 skimming is ok too!
[04:50:17] 	 brooke - hold on waiting for admin passcode
[04:50:22] 	 Which thread?
[04:51:09] 	 jfgagnon: I'd suggest you ask Dennis to join IRC here too. You need extension ConfirmEdit installed. asap.
[04:52:24] 	 JeremyB: Are you by any chance referring to Quim Gil?
[04:52:24] 	 Amgine: the one that has a "harsh"? ;)
[04:52:32] 	 Amgine: same thread
[04:52:44] 	 i think. quim's on several
[04:53:54] 	 http://gothamist.com/attachments/byakas/103112map1.jpg
[04:53:54] 	 gah
[04:53:56] 	 http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2012-November/064255.html
[04:53:59] 	 Amgine
[04:54:13] 	 
[04:54:47] 	 oh. *literally* Harsh, not euphemistically.
[04:55:41] 	 Amgine: errr, yes
[04:57:12] 	 New patchset: Siebrand; "Add missing required parameters for dieUsage()" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31951
[04:57:46] 	 JeremyB: How is your hi-fu?
[04:57:46] 	 New patchset: Siebrand; "Remove unused global and two unused assignments" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31955
[04:57:58] 	 New patchset: Siebrand; "Remove unreachable code" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31956
[04:58:02] 	 brooke - even the admin's account comes as non existent.....
[04:58:13] 	 New patchset: Siebrand; "Use single quotes and tabs instead of spaces" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31957
[04:58:43] 	 jfgagnon: I'll be honest, to this point, I just think you're a bit confused about your wiki.
[04:59:15] 	 I think you created a default user account and stayed logged in with it for a while and then at some point got logged out and didn't realize you'd been using the default ("Admin") username.
[04:59:29] 	 And the XRumer accounts are just spam accounts.
[04:59:33] 	 brooke  - not a chance bro....
[04:59:34] 	 Block or whatever as necessary.
[04:59:46] 	 You're sure you were logged in as yourself?
[05:00:13] 	 http://www.wikilovaganza.com/index.php/Special:ListUsers is the canonical list of user accounts on the wiki. I guess it's possible your host was compromised.
[05:00:28] 	 I haven't checked the extent of the damage beyond a missing logo and a "Down for maintenace" home page.
[05:00:28] 	 brooke - yes for about 60 days...my wife was logged in, my admin was and his nrother too. we put massive content in there
[05:01:02] 	 is the content still there?
[05:01:30] 	 Y'know, I saw a guy the other day, used one of those one-click installer packages.
[05:01:35] 	 jfgagnon: If the content was put into the wiki, and the server itself was not damaged, it will be recoverable.
[05:01:36] 	 So he ends up installing WordPress twice.
[05:01:45] 	 Once in the root directory and once in a wordpress/ directory.
[05:01:54] 	 And then causes himself a pile of confusion and grief.
[05:02:01] 	 I diagnosed it fairly quickly.
[05:02:24] 	 frankly all I need is to acces content
[05:02:55] 	 tuns of hours of work and info
[05:03:34] 	 I think you've misplaced your database.
[05:03:47] 	 And how can that be possible?
[05:03:53] 	 And probably your MediaWiki installation as well.
[05:04:05] 	 I don't know. People have different Web sites and shit. Maybe it's on another domain.
[05:04:10] 	 Maybe it's in a directory.
[05:04:18] 	 Like /mw/index.php or something.
[05:05:07] 	 Amgine: hifu?
[05:05:37] 	 hindi language fu.
[05:05:38] 	 On a private Wiki using MediaWiki, where is the databased stored?
[05:05:49] 	 all on mediawiki
[05:06:03] 	 Amgine: nearly absent
[05:06:03] 	 my admin is here, dlai
[05:06:13] 	 dlai?
[05:06:19] 	 yes
[05:06:33] 	 I'm not sure what that word means.
[05:06:34] 	 dLaie: it will depend on the configuration chosen. The configuration file (LocalSettings.php) will list which database engine.
[05:06:42] 	 Oh, never mind.
[05:06:48] 	 Sorry, no e
[05:06:50] 	 I didn't set up the wiki, I just had admin rights, and I maintained the pages and it's syntax
[05:07:13] 	 dLai: Take a look at the LocalSettings.php file.
[05:10:57] 	 amgine - So mediawiki doesnt store all our info?  It is a 3rd party domain?
[05:12:19] 	 I can see an old page from your wiki, kind of.
[05:12:22] 	 http://www.wikilovaganza.com/index.php?title=Jean-Francois_Gagnon&oldid=395 is cited in Google.
[05:12:34] 	 Which then means we're back to the theory that you misplaced the database.
[05:12:58] 	 well that's my full name yes
[05:13:25] 	 jfgagnon: Where is this site hosted?
[05:13:34] 	 Is it possible they had a crash and had to recover from a backup or something?
[05:13:40] 	 Does MediaWiki cache any of that information anywhere or is it strictly routed from the DB stored by the 3rd party?
[05:13:44] 	 Stepping back in time with computers isn't too difficult...
[05:14:19] 	 dLai: You're asking about caching generally?
[05:14:35] 	 I think he is reffering to mediawiki cache
[05:14:43] 	 !cache
[05:14:43] 	 General information about caches can be seen at , for configuration settings see 
[05:14:44] 	 jfgangon: MediaWiki uses a stack of software to store and serve the webpages; it doesn't do everything itself.
[05:15:03] 	 Well it looks like the problem is the DB is missing or corrupted, I'm just checking if there was another copy of the content stored elsewhere
[05:15:05] 	 dLai: It can use a cache, but the cache is non-vital.
[05:15:06] 	 Right. And there a lot of different kinds of caches.
[05:15:20] 	 Anyway, a lot of this is documented.
[05:15:24] 	 Read mediawiki.org. :-)
[05:15:33] 	 !caches
[05:15:33] 	 There is no such key, you probably want to try: !cache, 
[05:15:48] 	  Nagged by a bot.
[05:15:48] 	 !cache
[05:15:48] 	 General information about caches can be seen at , for configuration settings see 
[05:15:53] 	 I already said that.
[05:16:17] 	 I forgive you.
[05:16:17] 	 Thanks
[05:17:02] 	 http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Cache
[05:17:08] 	 the other one doesnt work
[05:18:38] 	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Cache
[05:18:48] 	 Hmm.
[05:18:56] 	 New patchset: Mwjames; "SMW 1.9: SMW\Utils make class context aware" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (1.9.x) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32012
[05:20:18] 	 Brooke: sorry... doing client communications in another channel.
[05:22:22] 	 we really need your help to find that lost content, hundreds of hours spent on putting info there, I don't undersatnd how this can all just dissapear
[05:24:02] 	 That type of caching is for performance, our problem is either a damaged, missing, moved or corrupted database most likely.  Where do you guys store our info?
[05:28:15] 	 Thank you for the information
[05:28:25] 	 Have a great night
[05:32:36] 	 New review: Spage; "I fetched the change and it seems templates/Userlogin.php isn't execute()d.  It looks like you've ma..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: -1 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30637
[05:37:23] 	 New patchset: Mwjames; "SMW DataValue check SMWDIBlob" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32013
[05:37:39] 	 brooke - so guys, when we enter our content in the mediawiki....where is that content stored?
[05:37:56] 	 In the Cloud.
[05:38:04] 	 Its magic.
[05:38:21] 	 jfgagnon: In the database configured in LocalSettings.php
[05:39:04] 	 krinkle - and how can I access that?
[05:39:43] 	 jfgagnon: The easiest method is via the wiki, but we don't know what variety of database you've set up and used.
[05:41:23] 	 problem is no one, not even my admin seems to be able to access our wiki, it looks like everything has vanished
[05:42:10] 	 amgine - problem is no one, not even my admin seems to be able to access our wiki, it looks like everything has vanished
[05:42:48] 	 Can you access the file LocalSettings.php in the root directory of your wiki?
[05:43:50] 	 amgine - to be able to access this need to login right?
[05:44:07] 	 You need to have shell access on your server.
[05:45:52] 	 Amgine -  So please light my lantern, I am the boss but I diod not set up the wiki..... when my employee opened the account on wiki, he had to link that account to a URL...and a 3rd party sever?
[05:47:21] 	 No. MediaWiki operates on a 'stack' of software, like Apache webserver and MySQL database server. These softwares are free and readily available; and with them you can turn almost any computer into a marginal web server.
[05:48:13] 	 It is possible to run MediaWiki without ever being able to access the 'shell' of the server, but most installations do have some way to do that.
[05:48:58] 	 I'm sure dLai can show you where the the mediawiki script files are located on the server where it is hosted.
[05:54:39] 	 Amgine - amgine - I will forward the info to DLai... if that doesnt work, can I contact you again for more help?
[05:55:05] 	 Yes. You can contact me via e-mail at amgine@wikimedians.ca
[05:55:32] 	 I will be traveling to the USA in a few hours, however, so I may be less-available than usual.
[05:57:13] 	 Amgine - I am a Canadian too, located in california
[05:57:28] 	 Heh; Vancouver for me.
[05:58:28] 	 amgine - Great! Montreal.  Ok thanks, we have hundreds of hours  of work that have vanished, help is incredibly appreciated
[05:59:45] 	 I understand the level of panic. The next steps are: figure out how the data is supposed to be stored (by looking at the configuration file), then trying to access the data directly (which will depend on what data storage solution was implemented.
[06:00:31] 	 I hope to be back online shortly after noon, PST, but it may be some hours later.
[06:12:04] 	 03(NEW) Wikibase-item-summary-special-create-* messages are hard to translate - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41803 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; (amir.aharoni)
[06:19:46] 	 New review: Nischayn22; "You had all the fun alone :p" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31994
[06:38:52] 	 aharoni, https://live.gnome.org/Design/SystemSettings/RegionAndLanguage#Input_Sources_Updates
[06:42:50] 	 New review: Mwjames; "Will do a rebase once I78107c72 is cleared." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (1.9.x); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31631
[06:49:02] 	 03(NEW) Display Settings shows dual labels for Font Selection - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41804 normal; MediaWiki extensions: UniversalLanguageSelector; (sayak.bugsmith)
[06:52:54] 	 03(mod) Display Settings shows dual labels for Font Selection - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41804  +comment (10Amir E. Aharoni)
[06:59:49] 	 03(mod) Display Settings shows dual labels for Font Selection - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41804  +comment (10Sayak Sarkar)
[07:06:17] 	 New review: Mwjames; "When I started the change I only thought to replace the Special:Browse but now it also includes the ..." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (1.9.x); V: 1 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30426
[07:22:32] 	 New review: Spage; "Disregard my previous comment, your patch started working.  I hope you find my comments about workin..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30637
[07:25:24] 	 03(mod) New wiki syntax for sup & sub tags - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/1894  +comment (10Daniel Friesen)
[07:30:56] 	 03(mod) New user-specific variable (magic word, parser function) giving {{USERNAME}} ({{CURRENTUSER}} {{USER}}) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/4196  +comment (10Daniel Friesen)
[07:33:00] 	 New review: Spage; "Seems good. No tests :-( , but there are none for throttling currently." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27021
[07:33:40] 	 03(NEW) PostEdit displays on new tab, when opened immediately after submit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41805 normal; MediaWiki extensions: PostEdit; (swalling)
[07:34:21] 	 03(mod) PostEdit displays on new tab, when opened immediately after submit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41805  +comment (10Steven Walling)
[07:36:30] 	 03(mod) PostEdit displays on new tab, when opened immediately after submit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41805  normal->minor (10Steven Walling)
[07:41:32] 	 03(mod) Assumes Dutch on first visit, then switches to English - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41451  +comment (10Daniel Kinzler)
[07:42:22] 	 "And for the record. No, I did not just post that to wikitech-l so I could have a valid reason to use the word 'Fuck' in a public subject line." ;) I only thought of it AFTER I sent the email.
[07:42:26] 	 lol
[07:46:24] 	 03(mod) Assumes Dutch on first visit, then switches to English - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41451  +comment (10Daniel Kinzler)
[07:48:47] 	 03(mod) Assumes Dutch on first visit, then switches to English - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41451  +comment (10Rob Lanphier)
[07:57:21] 	 03(NEW) For wikibase entities, the Content-Language header should contain the user language. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41806 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; (daniel.kinzler)
[07:58:07] 	 03(mod) Assumes Dutch on first visit, then switches to English - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41451  +comment (10Daniel Kinzler)
[08:03:01] 	 New patchset: Pastakhov; "instance_num do not incremented for multiple values from wgRequest" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticForms] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32014
[08:05:41] 	 03(mod) Assumes Dutch on first visit, then switches to English - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41451  +comment (10Daniel Kinzler)
[08:08:14] 	 03(NEW) Support for pseudo-language "mul" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41807 normal; MediaWiki: Internationalization; (daniel.kinzler)
[08:08:26] 	 03(mod) Support for pseudo-language "mul" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41807  normal->15enhancement;  +wikidata (10Daniel Kinzler)
[08:08:41] 	 03(mod) For wikibase entities, the Content-Language header should contain the user language. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41806  normal->15enhancement;  +wikidata (10Daniel Kinzler)
[08:10:41] 	 03(NEW) New messages link missing on mediawiki.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41808 normal; MediaWiki extensions: LiquidThreads; (s.mazeland)
[08:13:28] 	 03(NEW) Bug with typing in Narayam on Odia Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41809 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Narayam; (psubhashish)
[08:22:37] 	 03(mod) A general interwiki language link to oldwikisource is required - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32189  (10Nemo_bis)
[08:22:42] 	 03(mod) Support for pseudo-language "mul" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41807  (10Nemo_bis)
[08:26:18] 	 03(mod) Users report that Wikipedia App moves into permanent offline mode - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41798  +comment (10Michelle Grover)
[08:30:57] 	 03(mod) Assumes Dutch on first visit, then switches to English - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41451  +comment (10Daniel Kinzler)
[08:31:01] 	 hello
[08:33:04] 	 03(mod) Support for pseudo-language "mul" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41807  +comment (10Daniel Kinzler)
[08:33:10] 	 03(NEW) Eliminate patrol right requirement for requesting the patrolled flag in list=recentchanges - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41810 normal; MediaWiki: API; (nathanlarson3141)
[08:33:31] 	 New patchset: Spage; "bug 41729 always restyle section edit links" [mediawiki/extensions/Vector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32015
[08:33:45] 	 03(mod) Eliminate patrol right requirement for requesting the patrolled flag in list=recentchanges - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41810  +comment (10Nathan Larson)
[08:40:34] 	 New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "Fix a typo in input field id" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32000
[08:42:36] 	 Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32000
[08:43:23] 	 03(mod) Install Extension:NewUserMessage on gu.wikipedia and gu.wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40872  +comment (10Dhaval)
[08:43:55] 	 03(mod) Tidy up and deploy Vector's sectionEditLinks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41729  (10spage)
[08:46:56] 	 03(mod) Support for pseudo-language "mul" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41807  +comment (10Nemo_bis)
[08:48:57] 	 03(mod) TextContent expects a string in the constructor - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41801  +comment (10Daniel Kinzler)
[08:52:26] 	 03(mod) Assumes Dutch on first visit, then switches to English - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41451   +wikidata (10Daniel Kinzler)
[08:52:49] 	 Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31839
[08:54:02] 	 03(mod) Spam Blacklist shouldn't be fooled by similar-looking Unicode characters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/12896  major->15enhancement (10Nemo_bis)
[08:55:18] 	 03(mod) Assumes Dutch on first visit, then switches to English - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41451  +comment (10Daniel Kinzler)
[08:55:37] 	 Change merged: Hashar; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31989
[08:55:42] 	 03(FIXED) Playback stops abruptly at a little after the 11 minute mark in both IE and Firefox. Downloaded file plays fine. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/15614  +comment (10Nemo_bis)
[08:56:29] 	 Change merged: Hashar; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31128
[09:01:02] 	 03(mod) make a link at exorbitant place if I configured orientation:vertical - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/7572  (10Nemo_bis)
[09:01:31] 	 03(mod) Wikilink offset in EasyTimeline make text unreadable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/4046  (10Nemo_bis)
[09:02:13] 	 Change merged: Hashar; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31663
[09:04:36] 	 Change merged: Hashar; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31662
[09:05:13] 	 New review: Hashar; "Updated the noc site with https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/32016/" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31663
[09:06:16] 	 04(REOPENED) for rtl wikis labels and input text previews in wikidata needs to be rtl - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41005  +comment (10reza1615)
[09:06:19] 	 03(mod) Dialogs broken when mwEmbed is enabled - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24528  +comment (10Nemo_bis)
[09:09:35] 	 03(mod) Support for pseudo-language "mul" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41807  +comment (10Niklas Laxström)
[09:09:40] 	 hmm, this is weirdness. Trying to upgrade an older MW install, now everything displays fine and seems to work, but logins are broken
[09:09:48] 	 does anyone have an idea how I can debug that?
[09:11:03] 	 Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31203
[09:11:35] 	 03(mod) [WikiEditor Search and Replace] "Replace All" and "Replace Next" functions malfunction on IE7 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/23591  +comment (10Nemo_bis)
[09:15:21] 	 New review: Hashar; "We already have a few pure PHP implementation of mbstring functions in includes/GlobalFunctions.php ..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31141
[09:17:26] 	 03(mod) Minor edit checkbox seems to be ticked as default sometimes! - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41760  (10wiki.pesky)
[09:17:54] 	 Change merged: Hashar; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31634
[09:19:38] 	 03(mod) Minor edit checkbox seems to be ticked as default sometimes! - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41760  +comment (10Liangent)
[09:21:49] 	 03(mod) Support for pseudo-language "mul" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41807  +comment (10Daniel Kinzler)
[09:22:15] 	 03(NEW) local alias for wikidata - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41811 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Wikidata; (reza.energy)
[09:22:46] 	 New patchset: Spage; "Add EventLogging to ACUX" [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32017
[09:25:07] 	 03(mod) local alias for wikidata - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41811   +i18n (10reza1615)
[09:46:27] 	 New review: Hashar; "Should'nt we fix HTMLForm::loadInputFromParameters()  instead to make sure the returned HTMLForm doe..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31321
[09:48:22] 	 New review: Hashar; "please add an entry in the RELEASE-NOTES-1.21 under the section:" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31060
[09:48:50] 	 New review: Hashar; "please add an entry in the RELEASE-NOTES-1.21 under the section:" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31064
[09:49:09] 	 03(NEW) App error message screen looks bad in "solarized dark" theme - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41812 normal; Wikipedia App: Generic; (brion)
[09:50:53] 	 03(mod) Narayam is not working with hotcat, reftoolbar etc. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41766  +comment (10Srikanth Logic)
[09:50:53] 	 14(DUP) Bug with typing in Narayam on Odia Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41809  +comment (10Srikanth Logic)
[09:50:58] 	 03(mod) Support for pseudo-language "mul" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41807  +comment (10Niklas Laxström)
[09:57:36] 	 New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "changed testdata of normalized sitelink test" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32019
[10:01:12] 	 New review: Hashar; "* (bug 24944) Add hook to allow modification of preferences before save." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27266
[10:02:27] 	 New patchset: Jens Ohlig; "Added TermMatchScoreCalculator" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32020
[10:05:51] 	 New patchset: Markus Kroetzsch; "Trivial documentation change" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32021
[10:05:52] 	 New patchset: Markus Kroetzsch; "Corrected getWikiValue() for Property DVs" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32022
[10:05:52] 	 New patchset: Markus Kroetzsch; "Reworked and repaired Special:SearchByProperty" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32023
[10:13:38] 	 03(mod) User::invalidateCache throws 1205: Lock wait timeout exceeded - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/20468  +comment (10Niklas Laxström)
[10:23:46] 	 03(mod) PostEdit: Text unreadable in the Monobook Skin - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41404  +comment (10TMg)
[10:24:37] 	 03(mod) Database table cleanup (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/16660  (10Nemo_bis)
[10:24:39] 	 03(mod) Job queue issues with categories - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22936  (10Nemo_bis)
[10:25:52] 	 Change merged: Markus Kroetzsch; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32013
[10:30:40] 	 New patchset: Nikerabbit; "WebFonts to master (pick up ar fonts)" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf3) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32024
[10:30:59] 	 Change merged: Nikerabbit; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf3) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32024
[10:31:36] 	 03(mod) local alias for wikidata - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41811  normal->15enhancement (10Andre Klapper)
[10:32:49] 	 03(mod) local alias for wikidata - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41811  (10Andre Klapper)
[10:33:30] 	 New patchset: Aude; "(bug 41796) follow-up for Ic9e728f8, release db connection in ORMRow" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32025
[10:37:50] 	 03(mod) User Preferences do not allow me to go to any other tab - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41792  summary; +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[10:39:49] 	 New patchset: Jens Ohlig; "wbsearchentity continuation fixed." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31837
[10:40:50] 	 03(NEW) Make a spearate extension out of the template engine or move it into core - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41813 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Wikidata; (daniel.werner)
[10:41:24] 	 03(UNCONFIRMED) Notice of pics doesen't show up - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39837  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[10:42:05] 	 03(mod) Enable WebFonts for the Arabic projects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41359  +comment (10Niklas Laxström)
[10:42:05] 	 03(mod) TextContent expects a string in the constructor - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41801  +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[10:43:12] 	 03(mod) ORMRow should release db connections after use. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41796  +comment (10Aude)
[10:45:01] 	 03(mod) Loading of Edit Page occasionally incomplete on ml.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41802  summary; +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[10:45:18] 	 New patchset: Henning Snater; "JS refactoring: Removing EditableValue reference from EditGroup" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31856
[10:45:19] 	 03(mod) Impossible to add articles starting with lower case letter during parser tests using "!!article" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39461  +comment (10Daniel Werner)
[10:45:24] 	 03(mod) Running parser test files with phpunit.php should behave like running them with parserTests.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39473  (10Daniel Werner)
[10:45:31] 	 03(mod) Eliminate patrol right requirement for requesting the patrolled flag in list=recentchanges - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41810  normal->minor (10Andre Klapper)
[10:49:20] 	 14(INVALID) Stats for Most Linked Pages are completely off - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/21480  +comment (10Nemo_bis)
[10:49:43] 	 03(mod) IPv6 range blocks aren't working on Meta-Wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41778  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[10:51:47] 	 03(mod) Categories don't respect DISPLAYTITLE everywhere - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41720  normal->15enhancement; summary (10Andre Klapper)
[10:54:09] 	 03(mod) Make a spearate extension out of the template engine or move it into core - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41813  (10Lydia Pintscher)
[10:57:19] 	 03(mod) Getting Jenkins working for Wikibase extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40623  +comment (10Daniel Werner)
[10:57:40] 	 New patchset: IAlex; "Simplify DatabaseBase::tableName()" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31875
[10:58:03] 	 New patchset: IAlex; "Simplify DatabaseBase::tableName()" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31875
[10:58:03] 	 New patchset: Henning Snater; "Refactoring of EditGroup QUnit test" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32027
[10:59:05] 	 New review: Jens Ohlig; "For great justice!" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31841
[10:59:05] 	 Change merged: Jens Ohlig; [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31841
[10:59:57] 	 03(WONTFIX) Add user preference to opt out of email notification for bot edits (similar to $wgEnotifMinorEdits) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/13992  +comment (10Nemo_bis)
[11:00:05] 	 New patchset: Henning Snater; "Refactoring of EditGroup QUnit test" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32027
[11:00:09] 	 New review: John Erling Blad; "Found some additional things.." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31837
[11:00:51] 	 New review: IAlex; "@Nikerabbit: yes." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31875
[11:02:00] 	 03(mod) Assumes Dutch on first visit, then switches to English - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41451  +comment (10Niklas Laxström)
[11:05:41] 	 03(mod) Review and deploy Drafts extension to Wikimedia wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37992  +comment (10Armbrust)
[11:06:12] 	 03(mod) Make a separate extension out of the template engine or move it into core - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41813  summary (10Andre Klapper)
[11:07:59] 	 Change merged: Henning Snater; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32019
[11:08:04] 	 03(mod) Review and deploy Drafts extension to Wikimedia wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37992  +comment (10Oliver Keyes)
[11:08:34] 	 New patchset: Aude; "update dataProvider and add testGetClassForType for ChangesTableTest" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32028
[11:11:11] 	 03(NEW) "My notifications" opens overlapping unreadable text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41814 critical; MediaWiki extensions: Echo; (federicoleva)
[11:11:19] 	 andre__: re https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41778 I am not sure it's "site config" thing... my wild guess is the order the blocks are checked when GlobalBlock comes into play
[11:14:22] 	 03(NEW) "My notifications" red traffic light eye-sore - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41815 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Echo; (federicoleva)
[11:14:31] 	 03(mod) IPv6 range blocks aren't working on Meta-Wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41778  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[11:15:53] 	 New patchset: IAlex; "Make RecentChangeTest work correctly" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32029
[11:20:19] 	 New review: IAlex; "In this case the easiest thing is to make HTMLForm::loadInputFromParameters() non-static so that it ..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31321
[11:23:03] 	 03(mod) Getting Jenkins working for Wikibase extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40623  +comment (10Anja Jentzsch)
[11:23:16] 	 New patchset: Nikerabbit; "(bug 41451) Add vary headers to ULS" [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32030
[11:26:06] 	 03(mod) Assumes Dutch on first visit, then switches to English - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41451  +comment (10Niklas Laxström)
[11:27:57] 	 03(NEW) wrong behaviour of wbsearchentities on aliases - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41816 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; (tobias.gritschacher)
[11:28:10] 	 03(mod) wrong behaviour of wbsearchentities on aliases - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41816  (10tobias.gritschacher)
[11:28:17] 	 New patchset: Henning Snater; "Refactoring of EditGroup QUnit test" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32027
[11:34:17] 	 New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "(bug 41816) fixed reporting of aliases in wbserachentities" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32031
[11:34:34] 	 03(mod) wrong behaviour of wbsearchentities on aliases - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41816  (10tobias.gritschacher)
[11:35:19] 	 New patchset: Reedy; "Update TMH to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf3) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32032
[11:35:40] 	 Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf3) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32032
[11:36:37] 	 03(mod) Generic Edit Page: wgAllowSimilarTitles bug - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/17911   +testme (10Nemo_bis)
[11:36:47] 	 03(mod) Make wikicode / reset button translatable. Right now they're PNG files - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/19658   +i18n (10Nemo_bis)
[11:37:15] 	 04(REOPENED) Galician date and time localization - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41295  +comment (10Toliño)
[11:40:30] 	 03(FIXED) Article count in Special:Statistics incorrect - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/19919  +comment (10Nemo_bis)
[11:42:33] 	 03(mod) Rate limiter blocks never expires when not using memcached - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/20595  +comment (10Nemo_bis)
[11:45:06] 	 03(mod) High-precision block times are misinterpreted as time of day and duration - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/8554   +upstream (10Nemo_bis)
[11:45:12] 	 03(NEW) red link and creating new item in wikidata - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41817 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Wikidata; (reza.energy)
[11:56:56] 	 03(mod) wrong behaviour of wbsearchentities on aliases - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41816   +patch-in-gerrit (10Andre Klapper)
[12:06:47] 	 03(mod) REL & CLASS attributes in internal links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/23225  (10mybugs.mail)
[12:27:40] 	 New patchset: IAlex; "Fix for Iaac1bb9a (6b2b06d): remove leading space" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32033
[12:28:10] 	 03(mod) Galician date and time localization - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41295  +comment (10Alexandre Emsenhuber [IAlex])
[12:31:55] 	 New review: Daniel Kinzler; "This will work, in the sense that it will make sure people only see cached content in their language. " [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master); V: 0 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32030
[12:32:59] 	 03(NEW) moodbarcomments via api results in Exception Caught: Internal error in ApiResult::setElement: Attempting to add element *=, existing value is dtuieti - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41818 normal; MediaWiki: API; (sumurai8)
[12:35:24] 	 03(mod) Assumes Dutch on first visit, then switches to English - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41451  +comment (10Daniel Kinzler)
[12:38:06] 	 New patchset: Henning Snater; "Correct implementation of asynchronous QUnit parser test" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32034
[12:38:50] 	 New patchset: Njw; "Improve font size, layout, and lists in tables." [mediawiki/skins/erudite] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32035
[12:43:35] 	 New patchset: Njw; "Use a less glaring colour for new links" [mediawiki/skins/erudite] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32036
[12:49:09] 	 New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "JS refactoring: Api.js" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31206
[12:57:32] 	 New patchset: Hashar; "updater now show the SQLite file being used" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32038
[12:59:04] 	 03(NEW) User (suddenly) can't log in to OTRS system - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41819 major; Wikimedia: OTRS; (rjd0060.wiki)
[12:59:50] 	 New patchset: Hashar; "updater now shows the SQLite file being used" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32038
[13:00:09] 	 New review: Hashar; "typo in commit message, rebased by mistake :-]" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32038
[13:01:08] 	 03(NEW) iframe code always embeds File:DuckandC1951.ogg - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41820 normal; MediaWiki extensions: TimedMediaHandler; (gpaumier)
[13:03:29] 	 New patchset: Hashar; "removes jobs-loop.sh now provided by puppet" [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaMaintenance] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31972
[13:03:34] 	 New patchset: Henning Snater; "Moving event documentation from entityViewInit to wikibase" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32039
[13:03:36] 	 New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "(Bug 41580) Hook for custom search hit rendering." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32040
[13:04:33] 	 03(mod) User (suddenly) can't log in to OTRS system - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41819  major->04CRIT (10Andre Klapper)
[13:04:34] 	 New patchset: Hashar; "removes jobs-loop.sh now provided by puppet" [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaMaintenance] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31972
[13:04:45] 	 New review: Hashar; "PS2: rewrote commit message to actually be meaningful. " [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaMaintenance] (master); V: 0 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31972
[13:04:57] 	 New review: Hashar; "PS2: rewrote commit message to actually be meaningful. " [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaMaintenance] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31972
[13:04:57] 	 Change merged: Hashar; [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaMaintenance] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31972
[13:07:33] 	 03(mod) User (suddenly) can't log in to OTRS system - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41819  +comment (10Rjd0060)
[13:10:14] 	 03(mod) User (suddenly) can't log in to OTRS system - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41819  +comment (10Raimond Spekking)
[13:12:43] 	 03(mod) User (suddenly) can't log in to OTRS system - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41819  +comment (10Rjd0060)
[13:15:27] 	 03(FIXED) Puppetize Zuul - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40685  +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[13:16:10] 	 03(mod) User (suddenly) can't log in to OTRS system - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41819  +comment (10Jeandré)
[13:16:14] 	 New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "(Bug 41580) Show item description in search results." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32041
[13:19:24] 	 03(mod) Search results show the label twice, but not the item description. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41580  +comment (10Daniel Kinzler)
[13:19:54] 	 03(mod) Search results show the label twice, but not the item description. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41580  +comment (10Daniel Kinzler)
[13:20:12] 	 Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32034
[13:21:53] 	 Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32021
[13:22:28] 	 Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32022
[13:23:54] 	 03(NEW) "Add subtitles" leads to empty page with no interface or instructions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41821 normal; MediaWiki extensions: TimedMediaHandler; (gpaumier)
[13:29:27] 	 New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "(Bug 41580) Show item description in search results." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32041
[13:30:59] 	 03(mod) Search results show the label twice, but not the item description. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41580  +comment (10Daniel Kinzler)
[13:36:30] 	 03(mod) ULS causes pages to be cached with random user language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41451  summary (10Daniel Kinzler)
[13:41:34] 	 Change merged: Jens Ohlig; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32031
[13:42:41] 	 Change merged: Jens Ohlig; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32041
[13:43:12] 	 Change merged: Jens Ohlig; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28527
[13:44:03] 	 Nikerabbit: hey
[13:48:55] 	 Nikerabbit: * meta=messagegroups (mg)  suddenly seems to be missing all documentation
[14:03:00] 	 hey andre__ how are you?
[14:03:44] 	 morning sumanah! all fine here :)
[14:04:14] 	 sumanah, wondering who to CC on https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41802
[14:04:14] 	 03(mod) Loading of Edit Page occasionally incomplete on ml.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41802  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[14:04:18] * sumanah  looks
[14:09:20] 	 03(mod) Loading of Edit Page occasionally incomplete on ml.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41802  +comment (10Raziman T V)
[14:11:31] 	 03(mod) ULS causes pages to be cached with random user language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41451  +comment (10Mark Bergsma)
[14:12:01] 	 Is there no way to use the WikimediaDownload Template for extensions on Git ?
[14:12:32] 	 hi feob - I think there's a different template? not sure though
[14:15:15] 	 sumanah: ah, seems that this is the one: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Template:WikimediaGitCheckout
[14:15:15] 	 03(mod) Loading of Edit Page occasionally incomplete on ml.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41802  +comment (10sunil)
[14:15:48] 	 03(mod) Enable WebFonts for the Arabic projects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41359  +comment (10Mohamed Ahmed)
[14:17:28] 	 03(mod) Loading of Edit Page occasionally incomplete on ml.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41802  (10sunil)
[14:18:28] 	 03(mod) ULS causes pages to be cached with random user language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41451  +comment (10Mark Bergsma)
[14:19:12] 	 New review: John Erling Blad; "This is only a partial solution of the bug. The terms are still  shown multiple times." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32041
[14:20:28] 	 03(mod) ULS causes pages to be cached with random user language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41451  +comment (10Mark Bergsma)
[14:20:49] 	 03(mod) Loading of Edit Page occasionally incomplete on ml.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41802  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[14:21:59] 	 03(mod) Ability to filter recent changes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41686  (10mybugs.mail)
[14:22:47] 	 03(mod) Loading of Edit Page occasionally incomplete on ml.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41802  +comment (10Raziman T V)
[14:23:04] 	 03(mod) Add 6 fonts for Arabic WebFonts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41551  normal->15enhancement (10Nemo_bis)
[14:23:49] 	 Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31657
[14:26:14] 	 New review: John Erling Blad; "Seems to be working together with Change I75a78293: Show item description in search results." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32040
[14:27:38] 	 New patchset: Aude; "(bug 41667) disable onPageContentLanguage hook in wmfphase1beta deployment branch" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (wikidata-wmfphase1beta) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32042
[14:30:14] 	 Change merged: Anja Jentzsch; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (wikidata-wmfphase1beta) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32042
[14:31:33] 	 03(mod) Wikibase Repo: Catchable fatal error: Argument 2 passed to Wikibase\RepoHooks::onPageContentLanguage() must be an instance of Language, string given - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41667  +comment (10Aude)
[14:34:35] 	 yuvipanda: how comes?
[14:38:41] 	 03(mod) Log entries are difficult to localize; rewrite logs system - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24620   +patch-in-gerrit (10Andre Klapper)
[14:40:39] 	 New patchset: J; "get transcode status from masterdb" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32043
[14:43:24] 	 04(REOPENED) datatype URL / query parameter link=none does not work as well as plain printouts #- (1.8 alpha) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39392  +comment (10Markus Krötzsch)
[14:44:27] 	 14(DUP) External links no longer handled correctly in query templates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41275  +comment (10Markus Krötzsch)
[14:44:27] 	 03(mod) datatype URL / query parameter link=none does not work as well as plain printouts #- (1.8 alpha) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39392  +comment (10Markus Krötzsch)
[14:44:56] 	 03(mod) datatype URL / query parameter link=none does not work as well as plain printouts #- (1.8 alpha) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39392  (10Markus Krötzsch)
[14:45:31] 	 New review: Jens Ohlig; "See next patchset." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31837
[14:45:46] 	 New patchset: Jens Ohlig; "wbsearchentity continuation fixed." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31837
[14:47:32] 	 New patchset: Jens Ohlig; "wbsearchentity continuation fixed." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31837
[14:52:55] 	 I am "owner" of an extension - how can I push directly to extension master instead of gerrit ?
[14:54:12] 	 03(mod) Minor edit checkbox seems to be ticked as default sometimes! - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41760  (10wiki.pesky)
[14:54:29] 	 03(mod) Loading of Edit Page occasionally incomplete on ml.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41802  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[14:54:35] 	 New patchset: Matthias Mullie; "implement CAS in BagOStuff" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25879
[14:54:50] 	 feob: would it be ok if it went through gerrit but got autoapproved?
[14:55:26] 	 sumanah: I don't know what the correct way is ;) I am new to this and dont want to make a mistake.
[14:56:21] 	 saper mentioned this : "git push origin HEAD:master"
[14:57:37] 	 ^demon: ^ I'm in a call, can you help feob? (if you're back)
[14:57:52] 	 feob: that's just skipping gerrit altogether
[14:58:21] 	 feob: git push origin HEAD:refs/for/master -> goes into gerrit
[14:58:25] 	 git push origin HEAD:master -> does not
[14:59:29] 	 Is that possible/allowed ? Or is it better to still push to gerrit first ?
[14:59:52] 	 New patchset: Matthias Mullie; "datamodel [DO NOT MERGE - WIP]" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27981
[14:59:59] 	 pushing to gerrit gives other opportunity to comment and talk
[15:00:15] 	 change-id will be visible and you can search for a change
[15:00:51] 	 I would push to gerrit first (git push origin HEAD:refs/for/master) even if you intend to merge it pretty soon yourself
[15:00:51] 	 feob: "direct push" bypassing gerrit needs extra privileges.
[15:00:59] 	 ...and should generally be avoided.
[15:01:22] 	 okay, thanks - then I will do it like this.
[15:03:38] 	 Sorry Im confused - in the workflow documentation, only the git review / push-for-review commands are listed.
[15:04:08] 	 What is the difference to ' (git push origin HEAD:refs/for/master ' ?
[15:06:14] <^demon>	 refs/for/* is gerrit syntax for "push for review"
[15:06:40] <^demon>	 The last part is the destination branch. So "refs/for/master" == "push for review on the master branch"
[15:08:12] 	 feob: git push-for-review is just a convenient(?) shortcut for "git push  HEAD:refs/for/master"
[15:08:57] 	 03(mod) Item "kidnapped" after creation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41588  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[15:09:04] 	 ah okay
[15:09:27] 	 Change merged: Daniel Kinzler; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32025
[15:10:13] 	 Then this is _probably_ what I did with --global alias.push-for-review ... :)
[15:10:28] <^demon>	 Yep, that's exactly it.
[15:11:46] 	 03(NEW) Invalid export of geographic coordinates in CSV - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41822 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; (patelmm79)
[15:11:54] 	 New patchset: Feob; "Cleanup for first tag" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticImageAnnotator] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32044
[15:14:32] 	 Change merged: Feob; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticImageAnnotator] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32044
[15:15:02] 	 New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "(Bug 41580) Supress extracts in search result." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32045
[15:15:21] 	 Change merged: Daniel Werner; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticExpressiveness] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31748
[15:15:21] 	 Change merged: Raimond Spekking; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticExpressiveness] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31747
[15:16:23] 	 03(mod) Search results show the label twice, but not the item description. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41580  +comment (10Daniel Kinzler)
[15:18:22] 	 I had added a tag in my local repository to the latest commit - shouldnt tgat appear under https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?p=mediawiki/extensions/SemanticImageAnnotator.git;a=tags  ?
[15:18:38] 	 New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "Fix strict standards warning in TestChanges." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32046
[15:22:01] 	 feob: no, you need to do git push --tags for that
[15:22:26] 	 i don't know what permissions that requires, though
[15:22:46] 	 gerrit should *really* have an interface for creating tags. it has one for creating branches. silly.
[15:24:52] 	 03(mod) Wikibase Repo: Catchable fatal error: Argument 2 passed to Wikibase\RepoHooks::onPageContentLanguage() must be an instance of Language, string given - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41667  +comment (10Daniel Kinzler)
[15:27:05] 	 03(NEW) Please upload a video file to Wikimedia Commons 1.81 GB - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41823 normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (jeannemenj)
[15:27:12] 	 03(mod) Deleted revision of a file is not moved when file is renamed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40737  +comment (10Capmo)
[15:28:13] 	 Change merged: Jens Ohlig; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32028
[15:28:48] 	 mark: quick question about the ULS stuff: would it be OK for ULS to just send out Cache-Control: no-cache?
[15:28:48] 	 Change merged: Jens Ohlig; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32045
[15:29:15] 	 mark: that would cause all pages to just bypass the proxies, right? better than a vary on cookie and accept-language.
[15:31:04] 	 03(mod) ULS causes pages to be cached with random user language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41451  +comment (10Daniel Kinzler)
[15:31:16] 	 Change merged: Jens Ohlig; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32046
[15:34:04] 	 03(mod) Referential integrity is broken when a file containing deleted revisions is moved - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40737  summary; +comment (10Capmo)
[15:36:44] 	 03(NEW) ExtensionDistributor not working - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41824 major; MediaWiki extensions: ExtensionDistributor; (bluecurio)
[15:38:02] 	 03(NEW) beta autoupdater does not update new extensions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41825 normal; Wikimedia Labs: deployment-prep (beta); (hashar)
[15:39:34] 	 03(FIXED) beta autoupdater does not update new extensions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41825  +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[15:41:30] 	 03(mod) ExtensionDistributor not working: "Invalid response from Extension Distributor remote client." - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41824  major->04CRIT; summary (10Andre Klapper)
[15:41:45] 	 03(mod) ExtensionDistributor not working: "Invalid response from Extension Distributor remote client." - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41824  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[15:42:52] 	 New patchset: Henning Snater; "Correctly hiding suggester loading spinner" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32048
[15:44:19] 	 03(mod) datatype URL / query parameter link=none does not work as well as plain printouts #- (1.8 alpha) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39392  +comment (10[[kgh]])
[15:57:45] 	 DanielK_WMDE: no I don't think that would be ok
[15:58:07] 	 mark: too bad... why not? and what do you suggest instead?
[15:58:14] 	 that leaves absolutely no possibility for the caches to offload anything from mediawiki, which for a tiny/still unknown wiki would still sort of work, but would crumble the first time it's linked on a popular website
[15:58:36] 	 so if we were to do that, we'd have to segregate the wikidata apaches from the rest
[15:58:36] 	 New patchset: Demon; "Updating Wikibase to 856bad9" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf3) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32049
[15:58:37] 	 just to protect the rest of the infrastructure
[15:58:53] 	 the thing is, WHILE wikidata is still small, "exploding" the cache is fine
[15:58:55] 	 mark: but if we vary on cookie and accept-language headers, that would be just as bad, no?
[15:59:08] 	 it would cause too many objects to end up in the cache, but since it's not that popular, the total size would still be fairly small
[15:59:13] 	 also
[15:59:16] 	 we could reduce the cache timeout
[15:59:17] 	 how many clients will have the exact same combination of cookies and accept-language values?
[15:59:26] 	 so we could end up with many objects, but only cached for say 5 mins
[15:59:31] 	 then it's still relatively ok at any given time
[15:59:53] 	 i know, it's not a good solution either and we need to find something better for any reasonably sized wiki
[15:59:58] 	 but no-cache is bad too
[16:00:08] 	 so you think fracturing the cache is better than bypassing it? i would have expected the opposite....
[16:01:12] 	 mark: can you please contradict what i said on the bug report then, and perhaps also on gerrit? https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41451 and https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/32030/
[16:01:24] 	 Change merged: Demon; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf3) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32049
[16:01:32] 	 DanielK_WMDE: i think neither of them are good, but if I had to choose, i'd say, fracture the cache
[16:02:03] 	 New review: Daniel Kinzler; "retracting my -1 after a chat with mark: he likes fragmenting the cache better than bypassing it." [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master); V: 0 C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32030
[16:02:55] 	 mark: what baffles me is that squid & varnish don't have a simple way to vary on the value of a specific cookie
[16:03:02] 	 that has to be a very common use case, no?
[16:03:56] 	 done
[16:03:56] 	 03(mod) ULS causes pages to be cached with random user language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41451  +comment (10Mark Bergsma)
[16:04:02] 	 varnish can
[16:04:15] 	 you can take a cookie value, put it in a request header, and then vary on that
[16:06:00] 	 but not squid?
[16:06:15] 	 aude: are you watching this?
[16:06:29] 	 i don't think so no
[16:06:39] * aude  lurks
[16:07:01] 	 mark: that would help a lot!
[16:07:16] * jeremyb  has already done something very much like that in varnish... but you already think it's possible there. ;-/
[16:07:16] 	 yes i know varnish does cookies but it's only used for bits, uploads, etc. i think
[16:07:18] 	 maybe ULS should have an option to take advantage of that situation.
[16:07:23] 	 sure
[16:07:35] 	 and we are going to move to varnish, in which case ULS should be made to work efficiently with varnish like that
[16:07:38] 	 but it's at least another 6 months out
[16:07:46] 	 if all goes well
[16:07:46] * DanielK_WMDE  doesn't understand why this isn't a very normal and convenient feature
[16:09:04] 	 so we can live with accept-lang and cookies until then?
[16:09:12] 	 DanielK_WMDE: how about just using Accept-Language without a cookie for most people (for now) and for the people that do have cookies then fragment? and do more advanced stuff in 6 months. ?
[16:09:19] 	 and perhaps varnish will be better?
[16:09:52] 	 03(mod) ULS causes pages to be cached with random user language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41451  +comment (10Daniel Kinzler)
[16:09:57] 	 i think people can choose different options in uls than 
[16:09:59] 	 (so fragment on accept-lang but not cookie for cookieless people and make sure that most people have few cookies)
[16:10:05] 	 what's in accept lang
[16:10:05] 	 why accept-language anyway? I thought ULS was independent of that?
[16:10:12] 	 jeremyb: Accept-Language is already close to unique poer client :)
[16:10:23] 	 DanielK_WMDE: err???
[16:10:52] 	 mark: because it's (i think?) the default way to determine user lang if they're not logged in and haven't already actively chosen
[16:11:01] 	 jeremyb: mine is "Accept-Language: de-de,de;q=0.8,en-us;q=0.5,en;q=0.3". what's yours?
[16:11:07] 	 i guess this whole langcode.wikidata.org thing defeats that though
[16:11:23] 	 this whole ULS thing doesn't sound very well thought through
[16:11:25] 	 it's not an option at all for our existing wikis
[16:11:39] 	 mine is en-US,en;q=0.8,de;q=0.6,hr;q=0.4,sh;q=0.2,bs;q=0.2,sr;q=0.2
[16:11:54] 	 it is probably quite unique
[16:11:56] 	 the /only/ reason we might be able to do it on wikidata is because it's tiny
[16:12:10] 	 mark: ULS' initial pick of language is based on accept-language. so the response to the first request, with no cookie set yet, would be answered depending on that
[16:12:13] 	 i see
[16:12:18] 	 i think that can and should be circumvented using a redirect.
[16:12:25] 	 yes
[16:12:32] 	 but we have to be carefull not to cause infinite redirection when cookies are disabled
[16:13:31] 	 hrmmmm
[16:13:43] 	 so you mean enable all the langcodes soon?
[16:13:59] 	 langcode.wikidata.org
[16:14:21] 	 i wonder how it works with the squids now...
[16:14:29] <^demon>	 They already are active as ServerAliases.
[16:14:44] 	 lots of stuff (e3 ?) seems to be setting cookies
[16:16:05] 	 New patchset: Tpt; "Fix a confusion in namespaces of br Wikisource: Author namespace where confused with index namespace." [mediawiki/extensions/ProofreadPage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32050
[16:16:06] 	 btw
[16:16:14] 	 varnish (and possibly squid) is also very efficient with many variants
[16:16:20] 	 searching the right variant is a linear search
[16:16:23] 	 DanielK_WMDE: "en-us,en;q=0.5"
[16:16:35] 	 so if we end up with hundreds of variants for a given url, that's gonna kill it
[16:16:50] 	 mark: you mean inefficient?
[16:16:56] 	 sorry, yes
[16:17:13] * aude  imagines the millions and millions of americans that speak only english and have only "en-us,en" or whatever the default is
[16:17:21] 	 and non-americans
[16:17:21] 	 would we var on the number of incoming accept-langs, or on the number of actual languages? the latter would be "a few hundred" in worst case, the former could be… many
[16:17:21] 	 it's basically doing a comprehensive string comparison for each variant in a linked list
[16:17:22] 	 mark: and with Vary on Cookie and Accept-Language, there will be thousands
[16:17:28] 	 yup
[16:17:28] 	 well, maybe not within 5 minutes
[16:18:07] 	 i'm not entirely sure what squid does, but probably something very similar
[16:18:12] 	 Denny_WMDE: very only works with stuff that is in the request header (the cache only has that to go on, really).
[16:18:16] 	 really, tacking on the language to the URL would be better
[16:18:22] 	 except for purging
[16:18:38] 	 Denny_WMDE: the proposed implementation varies on Accept-Header AND the Cookie-Header. That *is* going to be unique per client.
[16:18:52] 	 jeremyb: well, it's simpler for en natives, i suppose :)
[16:19:16] 	 someone should look at the squid logfiles and do a calculation I guess
[16:20:02] 	 anyway, this is THE reason why we've never implemented this
[16:20:11] 	 why does wikidata specifically need ULS?
[16:20:17] 	 more than our existing wikis do
[16:20:31] 	 I know! I'm baffled that the ULS people didn't talk to you about this. 
[16:20:55] 	 mark: because we have multilingual content, and the way to see and edit content in another language is to switch the interface language.
[16:21:01] 	 i didn't even know what ULS was until aude enlightened me a few days ago ;)
[16:21:09] 	 mark: is there a list of things that need to happen for the great varnish switch of 2013 ?
[16:21:26] 	 yes, higher prio projects like the eqiad migration ;)
[16:21:41] 	 and a finished fundraiser and stuff
[16:21:56] 	 mark: i mean like a list of manifests to fix or hardware to install or whatever
[16:22:01] 	 no that's not the problem
[16:22:19] 	 DanielK_WMDE: ewww. i want to be able to edit all langs from english interface!
[16:22:26] 	 ;-P
[16:22:41] 	 jeremyb: there's a user script that let's you do that
[16:22:50] 	 oh... hrmmm
[16:23:53] 	 03(mod) "Add subtitles" leads to empty page with no interface or instructions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41821  +comment (10Michael Dale)
[16:23:53] 	 03(FIXED) Feedback page: Replace 'Decline oversight' with 'Oversight declined' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41058  (10Matthias Mullie)
[16:24:50] 	 i suppose we could trial (only) wikidata on varnish
[16:25:05] 	 but this is bad timing
[16:25:18] 	 there is no good timing ;)
[16:25:33] 	 we have like 0 time to spend on that right now
[16:25:56] 	 well, i'm assuming at least that we could switch right back to squid if varnish didn't work
[16:26:04] 	 and it's true, also not really hardware until we're able to replace squid entirely for the other clusters as well, or are able to buy new machines
[16:27:07] 	 bad timing because of FR because they don't just don't like stuff changing during the FR. but good timing because switching back and forth (and starting with a cold cache) is less costly while wikidata is small
[16:27:49] 	 03(mod) Item "kidnapped" after creation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41588  +comment (10Daniel Kinzler)
[16:28:04] 	 funny bug title... /me looks
[16:28:20] 	 jeremyb: not too nice though
[16:28:35] * mark  is off for a while
[16:28:57] 	 mark: thanks for helping us think this through
[16:30:51] 	 i do think, though, that the random pages as anon is happening less
[16:31:06] 	 Denny_WMDE: DanielK_WMDE when's the last time you got a random language page on wikidata?
[16:31:21] 	 aude: dunno, didn't log out
[16:31:24] 	 ah, okay
[16:31:36] 	 it only happened for me really the first weekend before the official launch
[16:31:39] * aude  thinks
[16:32:15] 	 the recent changes page, for example, seems sticky at least now when i change languages
[16:32:21] 	 i am logged in
[16:32:24] 	 any way
[16:32:29] 	 why does it work when i am logged in?
[16:32:56] 	 i just went into safari
[16:32:58] 	 the page is polish
[16:33:09] 	 Denny_WMDE: it uses preferences which stick
[16:33:10] 	 even though it says english in the top
[16:33:21] 	 oh, polish?
[16:33:35] * aude  tries safari
[16:33:43] 	 oh wait
[16:33:50] 	 it might have been a safari issue
[16:33:54] 	 the UI was polish
[16:34:05] 	 the UI was english
[16:34:05] 	 got english
[16:34:05] 	 only the content was polish
[16:34:12] 	 i was on the polish main page for some reason
[16:34:25] 	 hmmm
[16:34:25] 	 hi Denny_WMDE
[16:34:39] 	 yes, i get english
[16:34:42] 	 don't know if more users has an impact
[16:34:49] 	 i did not reproduce the error
[16:34:49] 	 could be
[16:34:54] 	 hi Nikerabbit
[16:35:24] 	 aude: actually it looks good
[16:35:29] 	 i am switching languages
[16:35:35] 	 and staying
[16:35:35] 	 no more icelandic
[16:35:35] 	 no idea why
[16:35:37] 	 agree
[16:35:44] 	 Denny_WMDE: wassup? talking about languages?
[16:35:45] 	 don't understand completely
[16:36:21] 	 aude: my money says it's still broken
[16:36:25] 	 jeremyb: agree
[16:36:39] 	 03(mod) moodbarcomments via api results in Exception Caught: Internal error in ApiResult::setElement: Attempting to add element *=, existing value is dtuieti - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41818  (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[16:36:40] 	 Nikerabbit: about caching and wikidata
[16:36:42] * aude  blames the norwegian on jeblad and icelandic on snaevar who visited wikidata the first weekend
[16:36:45] 	 just a guess
[16:36:54] 	 lol
[16:36:58] 	 and siebrand or somebody picking dutch
[16:37:24] 	 somehow the caches don't get stuck as much now?
[16:37:35] 	 no idea how it refreshes
[16:37:57] 	 hmm
[16:38:08] 	 aude: my guess is that there are just less curious anons, interested users are now logged in. and there are more pages, so anons have less change to get a cached copy.
[16:38:12] 	 i am asking lydia
[16:38:20] 	 no idea
[16:38:20] 	 if we still have reports about this
[16:38:35] 	 i'm sure it's still broken but curious why i'm not seeing it as much or at all
[16:38:39] 	 she says no
[16:40:28] 	 New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "Content::convert() for conv. betw. content models." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32053
[16:49:46] 	 03(mod) New messages link missing on mediawiki.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41808  +comment (10Krenair)
[16:50:22] 	 Change merged: J; [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32043
[16:51:16] 	 03(mod) Please upload a video file to Wikimedia Commons 1.81 GB - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41823  normal->15enhancement;  +shell; +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[16:52:01] 	 14(INVALID) New messages link missing on mediawiki.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41808  +comment (10Krenair)
[16:55:02] 	 03(mod) Dialogs broken when mwEmbed is enabled - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24528  +comment (10Michael Dale)
[16:56:43] 	 New patchset: Mdale; "Bug 41820 fixes iframe urls for multiple players" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32056
[16:57:34] 	 New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "(Bug 41706) preload to convert content as needed." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32057
[16:57:44] 	 14(INVALID) Eliminate patrol right requirement for requesting the patrolled flag in list=recentchanges - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41810  +comment (10Krenair)
[16:58:20] 	 New patchset: Reedy; "Update TMH to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf3) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32058
[16:58:41] 	 Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf3) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32058
[16:58:50] 	 New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "(Bug 41706) preload to convert content as needed." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32057
[16:59:00] 	 03(ASSIGNED) iframe code always embeds File:DuckandC1951.ogg - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41820  +comment (10Michael Dale)
[16:59:58] 	 03(mod) Format text/css is not supported for content model wikitext - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41706  +comment (10Daniel Kinzler)
[17:00:11] 	 03(mod) Format text/css is not supported for content model wikitext - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41706   +patch-in-gerrit (10Daniel Kinzler)
[17:07:19] 	 03(mod) Format text/css is not supported for content model wikitext - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41706  +comment (10Daniel Kinzler)
[17:13:02] 	 Is there a such thing as an online editor that will export mediawiki markup format?
[17:13:02] 	 03(NEW) Disable TimedText namespace where not relevant - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41826 normal; Wikimedia: Site configuration; (federicoleva)
[17:13:08] 	 03(mod) Review and deploy TimedMediaHandler extension (timed media handler) to Wikimedia wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27699  (10Nemo_bis)
[17:13:37] 	 Change merged: Nikerabbit; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32033
[17:16:29] 	 Change merged: J; [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32056
[17:21:32] 	 03(mod) Dialogs broken when mwEmbed is enabled - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24528  +comment (10Nemo_bis)
[17:24:58] 	 03(mod) Disable TimedText namespace where not relevant - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41826  +comment (10Dereckson)
[17:29:37] 	 Change merged: Nikerabbit; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31041
[17:30:02] 	 New patchset: J; "Bug 41826 - only define TimedText conditionally" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32062
[17:31:03] 	 03(mod) PHP Notice: Undefined index: href in /www/w/skins/Vector.php on line 416 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38334  +comment (10Niklas Laxström)
[17:32:05] 	 New patchset: Tpt; "Fix a retrocompatiblity bug that did that index parameter wasn't given to header template." [mediawiki/extensions/ProofreadPage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32063
[17:32:36] 	 New patchset: J; "Bug 41826 - only define TimedText conditionally" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32062
[17:33:25] 	 New patchset: Nikerabbit; "getReviewBlockers only has two params" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32064
[17:36:32] 	 wikidata office hours now in #wikimedia-office
[17:37:49] 	 03(mod) JobQueue not working: no jobs run except for high-priority ones like enotif - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41656  +comment (10Niklas Laxström)
[17:38:33] 	 03(mod) "My notifications" opens overlapping unreadable text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41814  +comment (10Krenair)
[17:39:53] 	 03(mod) Minor edit checkbox seems to be ticked as default sometimes! - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41760  +comment (10Brad Jorsch)
[17:40:10] 	 New patchset: Demon; "Initial commit of Helloworld shared Lua module" [lua/helloworld] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32065
[17:41:55] 	 03(mod) "My notifications" red traffic light eye-sore - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41815  +comment (10Ryan Kaldari)
[17:42:23] 	 Change merged: Demon; [lua/helloworld] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32065
[17:42:34] 	 New code comment: Platonides; WebRequest::getAcceptLang is equivalent to the called TsIntuitionUtil::GetAcceptableLanguages();; 
[17:42:48] 	 03(mod) [SimpleAntiSpam] Less obtrusive anti-spam box on text browsers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/16504  (10Andre Klapper)
[17:43:33] 	 New review: Mdale; "looks like a nice simple solution to the problem. " [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32062
[17:43:33] 	 Change merged: Mdale; [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32062
[17:45:06] 	 New patchset: Henning Snater; "Improving label and description pixel precision" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32066
[17:45:26] 	 03(mod) Disable TimedText namespace where not relevant - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41826  +comment (10Michael Dale)
[17:47:54] 	 03(mod) "My notifications" opens overlapping unreadable text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41814  04CRIT->major (10Andre Klapper)
[17:48:50] 	 New review: Matmarex; "+/-0 from me, as said above: I'm neither for nor against." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31728
[17:51:13] 	 Change abandoned: Tpt; "Not needed" [mediawiki/extensions/ProofreadPage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32063
[17:57:33] 	 New patchset: Mdale; "Revert "Bug 41826 - only define TimedText conditionally"" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32068
[17:58:30] 	 03(mod) Disable TimedText namespace where not relevant - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41826  -shellpolicy +shell (10Nemo)
[17:58:37] 	 03(mod) Creating a Git/Gerrit/Labs account requires human intervention - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37628  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[17:58:50] 	 New review: Mdale; "Needs more testing. We should still define the constants even if we don't add the namespace to $wgEx..." [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master); V: -1 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32068
[17:59:02] 	 03(mod) PostEdit: Invisible .postedit-container makes 50%-of-width area next to the notification unclickable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41231  +comment (10Munaf Assaf)
[17:59:15] 	 03(mod) PostEdit: Text unreadable in the Monobook Skin - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41404  +comment (10Munaf Assaf)
[17:59:30] 	 New review: Mdale; "reverted bug 41826" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master); V: -1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32068
[18:00:17] 	 ^demon|lunch, did you touch svn?
[18:00:33] <^demon|lunch>	 No, why?
[18:00:34] 	 New patchset: TheDJ; "(bug 37073) Make sure copyMetadataCrtlDiv exists and is correct" [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30443
[18:00:46] 	 03(mod) PostEdit: Text unreadable in the Monobook Skin - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41404  +comment (10Munaf Assaf)
[18:01:05] 	 I get "svn: Access denied" on commit
[18:01:19] 	 thedj: We try to steer away from "Patchset 2: ____" etc. in commit messages
[18:01:30] <^demon|lunch>	 Platonides: What path?
[18:01:33] 	 03(mod) Upload form doesn't work with non-Latin filenames in IE - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/23028  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[18:01:34] 	 trunk/tools/ToolserverI18N/scripts
[18:02:00] <^demon|lunch>	 I marked that r/o recently, I was told it was moved to Github.
[18:02:32] <^demon|lunch>	 http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/tools/ToolserverI18N/OBSOLETE?revision=115779&view=markup
[18:03:10] 	 does TWN even work with github?
[18:03:35] 	 he could at least have informed in toolserver-l
[18:03:45] <^demon|lunch>	 Talk to Timo :\
[18:03:45] 	 03(FIXED) Parsoid: Please remove mw:Placeholder wrapper for first newline in 
 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41753  +comment (10Gabriel Wicke)
[18:04:37] 	 03(mod) Upload form doesn't work with non-Latin filenames in IE - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/23028   +i18n (10Nemo)
[18:05:46] 	 TW export to github
[18:05:49] 	 how does he even expect that I fix the fixmes if he makes that path read only two days later?
[18:05:58] 	 New patchset: Mwjames; "SRF Value rank add template support and some clean-up" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32069
[18:07:58] 	 New review: Mdale; "I guess the verified blocked the revert from being committed? Retrying." [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32068
[18:08:13] 	 Change merged: J; [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32068
[18:08:32] 	 New review: Daniel Friesen; "Oh fun... I'm going to have to find time to actually physically check these out and review them." [mediawiki/skins/erudite] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32036
[18:11:27] 	 New patchset: Trevor Parscal; "Add change marking for Parsoid's benefit" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31990
[18:11:50] 	 03(mod) Clean up corrupted entries from page history restore bug - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41649  summary (10Aaron Schulz)
[18:12:44] 	 New review: Trevor Parscal; "I replaced uses of "new" to "created"." [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31990
[18:12:44] 	 Change merged: Trevor Parscal; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31990
[18:13:19] 	 New code comment: Platonides; So you mark it as 'fixme' and a few hours later you close the repository?; 
[18:13:32] 	 03(mod) ddjvu doesn't work correctly with mediawiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/23954  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[18:13:44] 	 New patchset: Henning Snater; "EditableValue.ListInterface QUnit tests refactoring" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32070
[18:16:49] 	 New patchset: Reedy; "Update WikimediaMaintenance to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf3) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32071
[18:17:06] 	 Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf3) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32071
[18:18:15] 	 03(mod) New replies not displayed for some users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/26788   +testme; +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[18:19:19] 	 New code comment: Platonides; * Use of GitHub instead of gerrit. \ * Translatewiki still points to this read-only repository. \ * No d; 
[18:19:46] 	 03(mod) Dialogs broken when mwEmbed is enabled - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24528  +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman)
[18:20:49] 	 04(REOPENED) Fatal Error if logged in - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28439  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[18:22:09] 	 New patchset: Matthias Mullie; "Bug 41653 - Article Feedback CTA buttons are hard to read in Monobook skin" [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32072
[18:22:33] 	 04(REOPENED) regression code in command-line updating : no prefix in the database table 'user' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29038  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[18:23:18] 	 03(NEW) Dynamic message groups not in list=messagecollection API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41827 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Translate; (s.mazeland)
[18:23:18] 	 03(mod) Bugs affecting translatewiki.net (errors from MediaWiki master) (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39480  (10Siebrand)
[18:24:19] 	 New review: Mwjames; "Works as advertised" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master); V: 1 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32069
[18:24:19] 	 03(mod) "My notifications" red traffic light eye-sore - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41815  +comment (10Krenair)
[18:25:26] 	 New patchset: Trevor Parscal; "Fixed line-height variations between sa and mw integrations" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31986
[18:25:35] 	 MaxSem: Is this a bug in ApiSandbox?
[18:25:39] 	 03(mod) GlobalUsage not working with a simple one-database with multiple wikis setup (REL1.18) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30571  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[18:26:04] 	 MaxSem: Go to https://translatewiki.net/wiki/Special:ApiSandbox. Choose query -> meta=messagesgroups
[18:26:19] 	 MaxSem: Observed: Spinning ball above the table.
[18:27:37] 	 Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property 'length' of undefined 
[18:28:11] 	 03(mod) Article Feedback CTA buttons are hard to read in Monobook skin - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41653  +comment (10Matthias Mullie)
[18:29:58] 	 siebrand, haha
[18:30:11] 	 it doesn't expectg a module without parameters:)
[18:30:36] 	 New patchset: Henning Snater; "Toolbar.Label QUnit tests refactoring" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32074
[18:32:31] 	 03(NEW) TypeError: this.params is undefined - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41828 normal; MediaWiki extensions: ApiSandbox; (s.mazeland)
[18:32:32] 	 03(mod) Bugs affecting translatewiki.net (errors from MediaWiki master) (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39480  (10Siebrand)
[18:32:46] 	 New patchset: Hoo man; "(bug 36053) Login returnto doesn't work if title isn't in the URI" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29729
[18:32:58] 	 MaxSem: Reported above.
[18:33:07] 	 New review: Hoo man; "Rebased" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29729
[18:33:29] 	 while [ True ]; do rebase; done ...
[18:33:31] 	 :P
[18:33:44] 	 MaxSem: btw, bon voyage, see you soon! Don't forget to bring good vodka. We're getting tired of good old Smirnoff.
[18:34:18] 	 if those Dubai border guards don't confiscate it
[18:34:19] 	 Could someone please take a look at the above, it's very minor but it bugs me almost daily...
[18:34:30] 	 MaxSem: ow….
[18:35:16] 	 hi
[18:35:22] 	 Pupuser: Hello!
[18:35:32] 	 ApiSandbox affects translatewiki.net?
[18:35:48] 	 need help on how to add a download link
[18:36:25] 	 Pupuser: In what context? Editing a wiki page?
[18:36:43] 	 Change merged: Kaldari; [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30443
[18:36:56] 	  Anyone able to reproduce this? https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41814
[18:37:05] 	 03(mod) Not receiving Wikipedia email notifications - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39298  04CRIT->major; summary; +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[18:37:07] 	 yes mark... i am trying to add it in my local wiki; similar to  http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Download
[18:37:07] 	 03(FIXED) "Add subtitles" leads to empty page with no interface or instructions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41821  +comment (10Michael Dale)
[18:37:36] 	 [http://url-to-download Download this file!!!]
[18:37:36] 	 Pupuser: Well, all we did was link to the file.
[18:37:36] 	 03(FIXED) iframe code always embeds File:DuckandC1951.ogg - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41820  +comment (10Michael Dale)
[18:37:45] 	 Pupuser: Does that not work for you?
[18:38:12] 	 nope... does it need to be uploaded into as wiki files ?
[18:38:36] 	 not really
[18:38:36] 	 Pupuser: No, it can be anywhere. What kind of file are you trying to download?
[18:38:36] 	 03(FIXED) TimedText page cannot be found from local when hosted on shared - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41698  +comment (10Michael Dale)
[18:38:37] 	 although you could upload it there if you wanted to
[18:38:37] 	 New patchset: J; "avoid race condition creating two transcode jobs" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32077
[18:38:42] 	 say a .pdf 
[18:39:05] 	 Pupuser: And [http://example.org/aoeu.pdf Download] doesn't work? Can you link to an example page?
[18:39:24] 	 03(FIXED) if seekbar has been disabled in embedded view, fullscreening does not reveal seekbar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41652  +comment (10Michael Dale)
[18:39:50] 	 03(mod) Import old revisions from dump to restore missing revisions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39008  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[18:39:50] 	 will check ; i am currently on another machine.. and the one i am trying is off the internet
[18:39:52] 	 03(mod) History of a page was lost after several move actions on zhwp - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37591  (10Andre Klapper)
[18:39:58] 	 03(FIXED) IE7: poster frame not scaled to visible area - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41647  +comment (10Michael Dale)
[18:40:20] 	 mark... pls. guide me how to i set the path to the file
[18:40:34] 	 should i be using any UNC extensions ?
[18:40:49] 	 03(ASSIGNED) "My notifications" opens overlapping unreadable text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41814  (10Ryan Kaldari)
[18:40:49] 	 say i have a file stored on the network..
[18:40:55] 	 Pupuser: You should just link to the URI where you can download the file normally.
[18:40:59] 	 04(REOPENED) New messages link missing on mediawiki.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41808  +comment (10Siebrand)
[18:41:19] 	 Pupuser: If your file isn't available, generally, on the net, then you'll need to make it available on the net before this will work, yes.
[18:41:34] 	 how in case the file existing on a shared folder on the network ?
[18:41:34] 	 Pupuser: Alternatively, I suppose, you could upload the PDF to your wiki and link to it that way.
[18:42:21] 	 Pupuser: If the network is the only place your wiki will be accessed, that might be fine, so long as your users understand the protocol you're using, but I'm not really able to support whatever file transfer protocol you're running
[18:42:25] 	 03(mod) Some IPs hidden without any log or apparent reason on frwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35578  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[18:42:43] 	 03(mod) JobQueue not working: no jobs run except for high-priority ones like enotif - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41656  +comment (10Rob Lanphier)
[18:43:10] 	 file:: \\machine1\sharedfiles\test.pdf .. will this work ?
[18:43:16] 	 no
[18:43:23] 	 Noooo
[18:43:38] 	 Pupuser: Upload the file to the wiki, I think, is your best option.
[18:43:39] 	 03(mod) SQL syntax error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/18622  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[18:43:41] 	 New review: Bsitu; "Tested and the change looks good" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31997
[18:44:23] 	 03(mod) Unable to install on WAMP server - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35606  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[18:44:26] 	 ok... then on clicking the link, it should pop up the File Download dialog .. however it does not
[18:44:27] 	 Pupuser, file://machine1/sharedfiles... could work if you configured the wiki to accept file links and your browser didn't block it, as many do
[18:44:53] 	 Platonides: \\, on a Windows machine, means "networked drive".
[18:45:01] 	 a link to file:// is generally meaningless, since a link to a local file means nothing to another one...
[18:45:11] 	 marktraceur, but the protocol is file://
[18:45:34] 	 Platonides: Yes, but Pupuser wants to link to a file on a shared drive. However ridiculous that is.
[18:45:43] 	 there are some complex rules, it might translate as file://|machine|/sharedfiles/
[18:45:56] 	 or even file:///\\machine\sharedfiles\...
[18:46:00] 	 Eugh.
[18:46:11] 	 it takes me to the http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/File:test.pdf page
[18:46:32] 	  ok
[18:47:06] 	 will try that too.. but is there any extension needed to be added to use this usage 
[18:47:31] 	 !wg UrlProtocols
[18:47:31] 	 Pupuser: There are some nice PDF extensions, but for just hosting a file I don't think you need them
[18:47:31] 	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgUrlProtocols
[18:47:52] 	 mark:ok
[18:48:16] 	 Pupuser, see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/UNC_links
[18:48:17] 	 Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaMaintenance] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31995
[18:48:34] 	 will uploading files to wiki slow down the performance ?
[18:48:49] 	 you need to enable extensions in your browser to make them work
[18:48:49] 	 say i have around over 200 documents to upload 
[18:49:26] 	  ok.. will need to figure out ..how to do it
[18:50:16] 	 it would be far easier if machine1 also showed the files as http://machine1/sharedfiles/...
[18:50:23] 	 or ftp://machine1/sharedfiles/...
[18:50:23] 	 03(mod) New messages link missing on mediawiki.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41808  +comment (10Ryan Kaldari)
[18:50:38] 	 New patchset: Reedy; "Update WikimediaMaintenance to master again" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf3) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32079
[18:50:54] 	 Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf3) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32079
[18:51:31] 	 03(mod) Some IPs hidden without any log or apparent reason on frwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35578  +comment (10Jérémie Roquet)
[18:52:14] 	  wgUrlPotocols says >>> Note: most browsers do not support "remote file" URLs like file://host/share (only Internet Explorer handles these per default. 
[18:52:19] 	 New patchset: J; "avoid race condition creating two transcode jobs" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32077
[18:53:11] 	 Pupuser, but also note the line "A recent patch applied to both IE8 and IE9 now requires the Wiki site to be in the Intranet Sites list for this to work correctly"
[18:53:26] 	 New patchset: J; "avoid race condition creating two transcode jobs" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32077
[18:53:34] 	 03(mod) Minor edit checkbox seems to be ticked as default sometimes! - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41760  (10wiki.pesky)
[18:54:38] 	 i am using chrome..  my doubt on a machine, using the chrome and accessing mediawiki on the internet allows the feature of file download; but when trying to access the file link on the intranet wiki site, it does not
[18:55:01] 	 03(mod) New messages link missing on mediawiki.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41808  +comment (10Ryan Kaldari)
[18:55:10] 	 Pupuser, mediawiki.org uses a http:// link
[18:55:16] 	 Pupuser: Because when you access a remote mediawiki, it's not trying to send you to a network drive, it's sending you to a webserver.
[18:55:20] 	 the problem lies in using file://
[18:56:37] 	 ok.. so should i be trying file://|machine|/sharedfiles/ or even file:///\\machine\sharedfiles\...
[18:57:07] 	 Pupuser: Ideally, you should take the files off of the network directory and put them in the root of your webserver, then link to them there via HTTP.
[18:57:55] 	 mark : ok; this would avoid the upload option we were discussing earlier, right ?
[18:58:06] 	 Pupuser: Yup.
[18:58:52] 	 sure would try that .. and get back.. if anything more.. thanks a lot for the help mark & 
[18:58:52] 	 03(ASSIGNED) New messages link missing on mediawiki.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41808  (10Ryan Kaldari)
[18:59:08] 	 03(mod) Minor edit checkbox seems to be ticked as default sometimes! - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41760  +comment (10Brad Jorsch)
[19:00:32] 	 hoo, are you sure all wikis have the meta: interwiki prefix?
[19:00:34] 	 03(NEW) PDF rendering error (RuntimeError: command failed with returncode 9) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41829 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Collection; (jroquet)
[19:00:41] 	 mark: oops... missed out at thing
[19:00:49] 	 Krenair: All WMF ones yes
[19:00:59] 	 I think it's even coming with the same extension, isn't it?
[19:01:17] 	 i do not want the user to get to know the path of the file.. is there a way to hide that 
[19:01:33] 	 03(mod) New messages link missing on mediawiki.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41808  (10Ryan Kaldari)
[19:02:59] 	 Pupuser, the user has to download the file somehow
[19:03:37] 	 Krenair : oh yes
[19:04:29] 	 Pupuser: If you put it somewhere in the web server, there's no real danger to them knowing the path
[19:05:00] 	 yes you are right 
[19:05:16] 	 Pupuser: Basically the webserver can take just about any request and say "oh, you meant *this* file", so you can redirect to your heart's content
[19:05:16] 	 New patchset: Alex Monk; "Override centralauth-block-already-locked to point to the meta globalauth log" [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaMessages] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31672
[19:06:19] 	 mark: so i should be creating a folder under root directory of the webserver; add files to it ; and then link them into the wiki
[19:06:26] 	 hope that is all..
[19:07:08] 	 Pupuser: Roughly, yes.
[19:07:11] 	 robla: was http://test2.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=User%3ARobLa-WMF%2Ffoo broken?
[19:07:12] 	 03(mod) Unable to install on WAMP server - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35606  +comment (10Nischay Nahata)
[19:07:27] 	 Pupuser: Also, type "mark", then hit the tab button, to get my full name and a separator.
[19:07:50] 	 (if you only type "mark", I don't get notified right away, so it may take more time for me to respond)
[19:07:54] 	 New patchset: Mwalker; "Removal of CN API Caching" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32082
[19:08:13] 	 marktraceur, ok :-) sorry am a first timer
[19:08:25] 	 03(mod) Minor edit checkbox seems to be ticked as default sometimes! - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41760  (10wiki.pesky)
[19:08:27] 	 AaronSchulz: yeah it was.
[19:08:35] 	 i was trying to figure how to type the name all the time :-)
[19:08:40] 	 AaronSchulz: did your correction script find it?
[19:08:50] 	 Pupuser: We all were at one point!
[19:08:50] 	 it showed up in the output
[19:09:09] 	 New review: Pgehres; "As long as we are not using this for serving banners, I wholly approve :-)" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32082
[19:09:10] 	 Change merged: Pgehres; [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32082
[19:09:13] 	 I need to find a way to get rid of line breaks between template calls. Semantic forms puts template calls on separate lines.
[19:09:27] 	 AaronSchulz: that seems to be a good indicator that your script is working  \o/
[19:09:29] 	 Is there any kind of function that can get rid of a newline after a }} ?
[19:09:52] 	 New code comment: Krinkle; * Gerrit: I chose GitHub over Gerrit for various reasons. For instance: A better review interface, n; 
[19:09:52] 	 marktraceur, fine... as i said i would not be able to try the solution right away.. will let you know... thank you !
[19:10:07] 	 would like something like {{#eliminate_blank_lines }}
[19:10:07] 	 !tabcompletion | Pupuser 
[19:10:07] 	 Pupuser: Instead of manually typing another person's nickname in IRC, you can type the beginning of their name and hit TAB on your keyboard to get it autocompleted, like on the command line.  This avoids misspellings.  Just make sure it's the right person!
[19:10:23] 	 sumanah: OK, I did *not* know about that one. That's great.
[19:10:38] 	 (I added it)
[19:11:08] 	 sumanah, ok 
[19:11:30] 	 I guess I'm looking to eliminate line breaks from blank templates, because I"m getting 
's in output
[19:11:31] 	 sumanah, but in marks case , i need to hit multiple tabs.. 
[19:12:00] 	 sumanah, oh got it markt ..and then a TAB works
[19:12:02] 	 Pupuser: yeah.  We sort of get used to typing as many characters as necessary before hitting tab, like "marktTAB"
[19:12:09] 	 yeah :)
[19:12:09] 	 New patchset: Mwalker; "Country, Language, Project to all RecordImpression Calls" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32083
[19:12:09] 	 Pupuser: Depending on your chat interface, we have a cool solution for you
[19:12:27] 	 Sweet, XChat.
[19:12:39] 	 Pupuser: In your preferences, you should have an option for tab completion.
[19:12:56] 	 03(FIXED) Special:NewMessages should be paginated on WMF - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29090  +comment (10Nemo)
[19:13:16] 	 Pupuser: If you choose to sort by "last to speak" instead of "alphabetically", so long as mark and markovh haven't spoken since I did last, I'll be the first person to pop up.
[19:13:40] 	 Pupuser: In fact, you will likely be able to type "m" in most cases.
[19:14:25] 	 sumanah: Also, cool IRC command you may not have known previously: CTCP
[19:14:40] 	 marktraceur, how do i use it ?
[19:14:54] 	 sumanah: /ctcp  version will tell you the client someone is using and /ctcp  time will tell you their local time
[19:15:09] 	 03(mod) New messages link missing on mediawiki.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41808  +comment (10Nemo)
[19:15:09] 	 03(mod) Watchlist, LiquidThreads and Echo notifications need to be unified - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/20541  (10Nemo)
[19:15:11] * yuvipanda  pokes Nikerabbit 
[19:15:16] 	 uga
[19:15:19] 	 03(NEW) [Regression] Notifications list is broken and less capable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41830 critical; MediaWiki extensions: LiquidThreads; (krinklemail)
[19:15:39] 	 Nikerabbit: so, action=translatereview takes a revision
[19:15:39] 	 interesting, thanks marktraceur 
[19:15:44] 	 Pupuser: Use what? The tab-completion? You need to enable it in your preferences (Edit -> Preferences probably), then just tab-complete like normal.
[19:16:09] 	 which I don't get from list=messagecollection
[19:16:09] 	 I see
[19:16:09] 	 Nikerabbit: any idea how I could do this? Do I really have to do two requests?
[19:16:25] 	 we're *very* close to getting this done on android :)
[19:16:25] 	 sumanah: Of course, it's not as stealthy as /whois, because my client tells me when you /ctcp me, but it's very helpful
[19:16:28] 	 OHO
[19:16:48] 	 yuvipanda: well, two queries until we fix translate (which we want to do to avoid race conditions)
[19:16:49] 	 CTCP marktraceur 
[19:17:10] 	 ok :(
[19:17:12] 	 Nikerabbit: can you tell me which page i'd need to query?
[19:17:43] 	 it's not a race condition.
[19:17:44] 	 Nikerabbit: but even then it'd be internally consistent, right? You won't be approving a new revision...
[19:17:46] 	 03(mod) [Regression] Notifications list is broken and less capable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41830  +comment (10Krinkle)
[19:18:01] 	 03(mod) [Regression] Notifications list is broken and less capable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41830  +comment (10Krinkle)
[19:18:01] 	 marktraceur, i think i need to figure out what options this client provides...  will check out
[19:18:02] 	 Nikerabbit: you should be able to give out current revision
[19:18:27] 	 An old rev may be approved, but it's not a race condition. There simply may be a later revision for a key, but that's something different.
[19:18:44] 	 siebrand: it is race condition if you need to query for the revision number in separate query
[19:18:58] 	 which would be prop=revisions module
[19:19:12] 	 Nikerabbit: I often make a change and still approve (accidentally) the older rev. That's exactly right.
[19:19:21] 	 (at least in outcome)
[19:19:43] 	 Nikerabbit: but, if I want to get it done today, I'll need to hit prop=revisions, right?
[19:19:47] 	 ^demon|lunch: is there any way in Gerrit to limit how many open commits can simultaneously list someone as a reviewer?
[19:19:50] 	 It's not like the latest rev should be approved. The displayed (in the app) rev should be approved, which is the rev at the time of query.
[19:19:57] 	 New patchset: Bsitu; "(bug 41808)  New messages link missing on mediawiki.org" [mediawiki/extensions/LiquidThreads] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32084
[19:20:18] 	 So from what I can see, you can simply add revid as a result prop.
[19:21:25] <^demon|lunch>	 sumanah: No.
[19:21:37] 	 yuvipanda: give me five mins
[19:21:50] 	 waaah
[19:21:50] 	 :D
[19:23:05] 	 New review: Lupo; "No, I can't. Incomplete specification. What's it supposed to do if called with a second parameter th..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31141
[19:23:05] 	 03(mod) [Regression] Notifications list is broken and less capable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41830  +comment (10Krinkle)
[19:23:21] 	 yuvipanda: http://dev.translatewiki.net/w/api.php?action=query&list=messagecollection&mcgroup=out-freecol&mclanguage=fi&mcprop=definition|translation|tags|revision this fine?
[19:23:43] 	 Nikerabbit: Excellent. Exactly as I'd have specified it.
[19:23:51] <^demon|lunch>	 sumanah: To make sure I'm understanding you properly. You're asking "Only let $userFoo review N commits at a time?"
[19:23:56] 	 Nikerabbit: wonderful :D
[19:24:06] * siebrand  jumps up and slaps a thundering high5 with Nikerabbit!
[19:24:22] 	 03(mod) [Regression] Notifications list is broken and less capable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41830  +comment (10Krinkle)
[19:24:45] 	 New review: Nischayn22; "Fails due to a small error in type checking, waiting for comments on transactions for a new patchset" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master); V: -1 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31754
[19:25:25] 	 New patchset: Pgehres; "Adding dd-ES for debugging.  DO NOT SUBMIT" [mediawiki/extensions/DonationInterface] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32085
[19:25:41] 	 New patchset: Nikerabbit; "Add prop revision to messagecollection api" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32086
[19:25:57] 	 ^^
[19:25:57] 	 ^demon|lunch: yes. If $userFoo is listed as being at that max, listed as reviewer on N commits, then when another user tries to add $userFoo for a changeset, ERROR.
[19:26:05] <^demon|lunch>	 Yeah, that's not possible.
[19:28:29] 	 New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "Are you also submitting stuff that does not work as advertised o_O" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master); V: 0 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32069
[19:28:29] 	 Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32069
[19:28:46] 	 New review: Pgehres; "Awesome, thanks." [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32083
[19:28:46] 	 03(FIXED) Clean up corrupted entries from page history restore bug - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41649  +comment (10Aaron Schulz)
[19:28:46] 	 Change merged: Pgehres; [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32083
[19:31:33] 	 03(mod) Clean up corrupted entries from page history restore bug - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41649  +comment (10Aaron Schulz)
[19:31:33] 	 Change merged: Amire80; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32086
[19:34:39] 	 New patchset: Demon; "Shared scribunto scripts" [mediawiki/extensions/Scribunto] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32087
[19:35:34] * siebrand  hugs nik
[19:35:41] * siebrand  hugs Nikerabbit 
[19:36:04] 	 03(mod) mwdumper error Stream is not in the BZip2 format - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41775  +comment (10Lupo)
[19:36:42] 	 03(mod) Clean up corrupted entries from page history restore bug - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41649  +comment (10Aaron Schulz)
[19:37:03] 	 New patchset: Demon; "Shared scribunto scripts" [mediawiki/extensions/Scribunto] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32087
[19:37:45] 	 Nikerabbit: thannks :D
[19:37:59] 	 Nikerabbit: also, the token has same expiration rules as the edittoken, right?
[19:38:00] 	 aka expires on a per-login basis
[19:39:04] 	 yuvipanda: as far as I know
[19:39:30] 	 03(mod) [Regression] Notifications list is broken and less capable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41830  (10Krenair)
[19:39:30] 	 why the hell was that in LQT...
[19:39:50] 	 03(NEW) Requirements for autoconfirmeds in ruwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41831 normal; Wikimedia: Site configuration; (maxbiohazardous)
[19:40:47] 	 Nikerabbit: thanks :)
[19:41:09] 	 03(mod) Clean up corrupted entries from page history restore bug - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41649  +comment (10Tomasz W. Kozłowski)
[19:41:37] 	 New patchset: Cmcmahon; "straight port of UploadWizard test from RSpec to Cucumber, warts and all. secret.yml is now required for test account password and has been added to Jenkins" [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32088
[19:43:52] 	 New patchset: Mwjames; "SRF Value rank add docs" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32089
[19:44:30] 	 Change merged: Mwjames; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32089
[19:44:39] 	 03(mod) [Regression] Notifications list is broken and less capable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41830  +comment (10Krenair)
[19:45:37] 	 04(REOPENED) File history missing during Deletion/Restore - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41615  +comment (10Trijnstel)
[19:46:39] 	 New patchset: Spage; "Update E3Experiments to master (interactive validation)" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf3) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32090
[19:47:09] 	 03(mod) CREDITS should link to a list of (only) relevant translators - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41630  summary (10Krinkle)
[19:47:11] 	 03(mod) Link to CREDITS on Special:Version should not trigger a download dialog - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40641  (10Krinkle)
[19:47:30] 	 03(mod) Clean up corrupted entries from page history restore bug - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41649  +comment (10Trijnstel)
[19:47:56] 	 New patchset: Kaldari; "(bug 39383, bug 40059) Allowing badges to use strings and returning this" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32091
[19:49:22] 	 New review: Krinkle; "Agree per made points:" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31881
[19:50:18] 	 03(NEW) Commons files *not* except from sync check - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41832 normal; MediaWiki extensions: FlaggedRevs; (umherirrender_de.wp)
[19:50:30] 	 03(mod) File history missing during Deletion/Restore - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41615  +comment (10Aaron Schulz)
[19:51:00] 	 03(FIXED) [Regression] jquery.badge.js now only accepts numbers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40059  +comment (10Ryan Kaldari)
[19:51:15] 	 03(FIXED) jquery.badge.js should return "this" (a reference to the jQuery object) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39383  +comment (10Ryan Kaldari)
[19:52:36] 	 New patchset: Raimond Spekking; "Extensions used by Wikivoyage installed on the WMF cluster" [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32093
[19:52:48] 	 Change merged: Raimond Spekking; [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32093
[19:53:28] 	 New patchset: Demon; "Doc tweak: variable is actually $isKnown and is a reference" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32094
[19:53:51] 	 Change merged: Kaldari; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31997
[19:56:00] 	 Change merged: IAlex; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32094
[19:56:37] 	 03(mod) Commons files *not* except from sync check - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41832  +comment (10Umherirrender)
[20:01:50] 	 03(mod) New messages link missing on mediawiki.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41808  +comment (10Krenair)
[20:02:00] 	 New patchset: Adamw; "(FR #615) Skrill/Moneybookers integration" [mediawiki/extensions/DonationInterface] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23160
[20:02:09] 	 New patchset: Tpt; "(bug 41597) Provide a special page, Special:EntitiesWithoutLabel to list entities without label for a given language." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31508
[20:03:20] 	 New patchset: Tpt; "(bug 41597) Provide a special page, Special:EntitiesWithoutLabel to list entities without label for a given language." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31508
[20:05:24] 	 Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32064
[20:08:57] 	 03(NEW) Write tests for AutoLoader - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41833 major; MediaWiki: Unit tests; (krinklemail)
[20:09:34] 	 New review: Krinkle; "I filed https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41833 to prevent this in the future." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31634
[20:10:40] 	 03(FIXED) mw.loader.load() fails in IE8 when loading external stylesheet - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41331  minor->normal (10Krinkle)
[20:11:40] 	 Oh, no! mediawiki.org is now facebook!!!!
[20:12:27] 	 03(mod) Write tests for AutoLoader - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41833  +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[20:12:54] 	 03(mod) Write tests for AutoLoader - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41833  +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[20:13:19] 	 New review: Krinkle; "Untested but looks good." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32091
[20:13:34] 	 Vulpix, what?
[20:14:33] 	 http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/4054/mediawikifailbook.png a wild "notifications" appeared on my personal tools
[20:14:34] 	 New review: Tpt; "Rename the table to entity_per_page as requested." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31508
[20:15:03] 	 Vulpix, so this makes it now facebook?
[20:15:08] 	 Are you fucking kidding me?
[20:15:27] 	 Yes it's broken, there is a bug open for this
[20:15:47] 	 inb4 we see avatars and profiles on that
[20:16:08] 	 You are kidding me then
[20:16:16] 	 Anyway, this issue is https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41814
[20:16:20] 	 New patchset: Foxtrott; "Calendar view for the filtered format." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27831
[20:16:32] 	 but what happened to my watched threads? they're not accessible anymore
[20:17:06] 	 New patchset: Raimond Spekking; "Some consistency tweaks in preparation for translation" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticImageAnnotator] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32097
[20:17:30] 	 Vulpix, are you looking for https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:NewMessages ?
[20:17:55] 	 Yes!
[20:18:15] 	 well, I'm glad they're still there!
[20:18:24] 	 but now inaccessible from my tools
[20:18:38] 	 It's being put back by https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32084
[20:18:45] 	 at least the link still exists on my watchlist
[20:18:59] 	 Reedy: Please, it's possible to review and deploy this change, the bug solved beak a part of br Wikisource ? https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/32052/
[20:19:37] 	 can abuse filter pass out the match? so it can be displayed to user...
[20:22:47] 	 03(mod) Write tests for AutoLoader - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41833  +comment (10Alexandre Emsenhuber [IAlex])
[20:23:56] 	 03(mod) Minor edit checkbox seems to be ticked as default sometimes! - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41760  +comment (10Brad Jorsch)
[20:25:24] 	 03(mod) Impossible to step from "Upload" to "Release right" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37073  +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman)
[20:25:41] 	 03(mod) Notifications list is broken and less capable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41830  -code-update-regression ; summary (10Krenair)
[20:25:44] 	 Tpt: I will do in a little bit
[20:27:10] 	 Reddy: Thanks :-)
[20:29:02] 	 New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "Looks very good mostly! :)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31508
[20:30:07] 	 New review: Siebrand; "I'm blocking merge for this, because conceptually there's something very wrong here. Can you please ..." [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaMessages] (master); V: 0 C: -2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31672
[20:31:22] 	 New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "Is this meant to be ready for merge?" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master); V: 0 C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27831
[20:32:34] 	 I'm getting this weird error after i changed my index file.
[20:32:49] 	 http://rocketpedia.uni.me
[20:33:37] 	 !schema
[20:33:37] 	 http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Database_layout
[20:33:41] 	 I changed it from index.htm to index.php
[20:33:58] 	 New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "Fixed doc typo." [mediawiki/extensions/SwiftCloudFiles] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32099
[20:36:31] 	 New review: Foxtrott; "I think so. Will likely need rebase and manual merge, though." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27831
[20:37:01] 	 Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/extensions/SwiftCloudFiles] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32099
[20:38:32] 	 jeremyb: hi! how's it going?
[20:39:15] 	 I keep getting an error after i changed my index file.
[20:39:54] 	 therocketmaster: Does that file, in fact, exist?
[20:40:00] 	 therocketmaster, do you have all the needed files inside includes/ ?
[20:40:15] 	 I changed it from index.htm to index.php.
[20:40:21] 	 All are there.
[20:40:22] 	 therocketmaster: In particular, does /home/a9227267/public_html/w/ exist?
[20:40:38] 	 therocketmaster: Because many people will use /wiki instead of /w for the directory name
[20:40:44] 	 w exists.
[20:40:44] 	 OK
[20:41:30] 	 therocketmaster: http://rocketpedia.uni.me/wiki/Main_Page seems to work
[20:41:43] 	 03(mod) For wikibase entities, the Content-Language header should contain the user language. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41806  (10denny vrandecic)
[20:42:12] 	 But, going to the bare URL doesn't.
[20:42:34] 	 What do i need to put into index.php?
[20:43:28] 	 I put require_once as the load command.
[20:44:13] 	 How to fix?
[20:44:16] 	 03(NEW) Wikidata: Add "WD:" and "WT:" as namespace aliases for Wikidata: and Wikidata talk: - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41834 normal; Wikimedia: Site configuration; (yyairrand)
[20:44:57] 	 Do i need to edit .htaccess?
[20:46:41] 	 How do i fix this error?
[20:47:04] 	 New code comment: Platonides; > Fwiw, there is various other @wikimedia and Translatewiki repositories that are also primarily on ; 
[20:48:02] 	 therocketmaster, remove what you have there and write: 	 ^demon, how hard would it be for you to convert a repo from svn to git without one folder/subtree ?
[20:50:24] <^demon|lunch>	 I can't remember how I did it. You have to do some magic with git-filter-branch.
[20:50:26] 	 New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "[FileBackend] Added getFileHttpUrl() function." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32102
[20:50:39] 	 New review: Aaron Schulz; "Also see https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/31666/" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32102
[20:51:24] 	 ExtensionDistributor is broken again :(
[20:51:53] 	 Should I reopen https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41081 or is it a know temporary outage
[20:52:47] 	 Vulpix, someone will probably poke it from here
[20:53:07] 	 it would be good if we could just tell codurr to do so :P
[20:54:00] 	 ok, I'll reopen then :)
[20:54:06] 	 Custom favicon?
[20:54:21] 	 How do i set that up?
[20:54:50] 	 !favico
[20:54:50] 	 04(REOPENED) ExtensionDistributor does not work: "Invalid response from Extension Distributor remote client" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41081  +comment (10Jesús Martínez Novo (Ciencia Al Poder))
[20:54:57] 	 New review: Mwjames; "I haven't look at the code yet therefore some general comments. With the SMW/SRF 1.8 release we to t..." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticImageAnnotator] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31984
[20:55:34] 	 therocketmaster, https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Favicon#How_do_I_change_the_icon_in_the_browser.27s_address_line_.28favicon.29.3F
[20:56:50] 	 I am having trouble with mediawiki 1.16... the formatting seems to be broken (I don't think skinning is working). I have been trying to fix this but I have not worked with Mediawiki before this. I am migrating Mediawiki 1.12 on Debian to CentOS with mediawiki 1.16. The db migration looks to have worked fine... just the "skin" is not applied
[20:57:34] 	 New code comment: Krinkle; 
	 I can show you an image of what I am seeing though
[20:59:53] 	 jeremyb: indeed I did!
[21:00:01] 	 Vulpix: ^
[21:00:08] 	 druonysus: yes!
[21:00:21] <^demon|lunch>	 What hook should I use to block editing & creation? I've tried userCan and getUserPermissionsErrors without success.
[21:00:24] 	 Vulpix: sec
[21:01:13] 	 Vulpix: http://static.inky.ws/image/3373/image.jpg
[21:01:50] 	 ^demon|lunch: you want to prevent edit saving or show directly the "view source" link instead of "edit"? I don't know the response either but I think it would matter :)
[21:01:52] 	 Admins: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:ExtensionDistributor seems to be unhappy :( It throws "Invalid response from Extension Distributor remote client."
[21:02:35] 	 daniel_renfro: indeed, it's a known issue :( https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41081
[21:02:38] <^demon|lunch>	 Vulpix: The latter. I've got pages that technically don't exist (I'm using TitleIsAlwaysKnown), but that I want to show content for (similar for NS_MEDIAWIKI pages that don't exist yet)
[21:02:49] 	 New code comment: Krinkle; 

[21:09:47] 	 Raymond_: Are you there ? ;)
[21:10:13] 	 New patchset: Foxtrott; "Calendar view for the filtered format." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27831
[21:10:28] 	 Krinkle|detached, were you manually inputting the 
s ?
[21:10:42] 	 feob: yes
[21:11:42] 	 Yaron: Can I ask you to fulfill https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Gerrit_project_ownership#2_new_members_for_2_groups ? I don't have the ability to do it.
[21:12:05] 	 03(NEW) Requesting a new hook to allow manipulation of image data (e.g. src attribute) before the image is rendered - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41835 normal; MediaWiki: API; (vdanilchenko)
[21:12:20] 	 New review: Foxtrott; "Ok, it's rebased. I hope. Never did this before." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27831
[21:12:27] 	 Raymond_: Thanks for your patch! The url in the extension description is not correct, though. Can I change that in your commit or do I have to revoke and you push again ?
[21:12:56] 	 feob: oh... but yes, feel free to change my patch
[21:12:56] 	 Yaron: you would go to https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/admin/groups/254,members and https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/admin/groups/255,members .
[21:12:56] 	 You can amend other peoples commits
[21:12:56] 	 03(NEW) Foo?action=info should rather be Special:PageInfo/Foo instead - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41836 enhancement; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (danny.b)
[21:13:20] 	 sumanah: I don't have time to do it now, but I'll look into it later.
[21:13:27] 	 03(ASSIGNED) Wikidata: Add "WD:" and "WT:" as namespace aliases for Wikidata: and Wikidata talk: - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41834   +shell; +comment (10Dereckson)
[21:13:27] 	 OK.
[21:13:34] 	 Brooke, https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41836 - someone wants action=info turned into a special page
[21:13:42] 	 03(mod) Wikidata: Add "WD:" and "WT:" as namespace aliases for Wikidata: and Wikidata talk: - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41834  normal->15enhancement (10Dereckson)
[21:13:42] 	 Raymond_: Can I do that in Gerrit? Im new to this ;)
[21:13:49] 	 yes
[21:13:57] 	 download the patch
[21:13:57] 	 amend it
[21:14:02] 	 upload
[21:14:12] 	 just make sure to keep the Change-Id in the commit message
[21:14:15] 	 Or, you could put in the index.php "	 That works, too.
[21:14:46] 	 Krenair: Special:PageInfo/Foo does seem to make sense, "info" isn't really an action, it's a different resource entirely
[21:15:44] 	 Krenair: So I do this via git ?
[21:15:49] 	 Yes feob
[21:16:03] 	 marktraceur, not a great deal more different than action=history as far as I'm concerned
[21:16:19] 	 Krenair: Baby steps :0
[21:16:25] 	 New patchset: Tpt; "(bug 41597) Provide a special page, Special:EntitiesWithoutLabel to list entities without label for a given language." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31508
[21:16:25] 	 :)
[21:16:40] 	 Im sorry to bother, but could you maybe walk me through that?
[21:16:47] 	 git review -d 
[21:16:55] 	 # make changes
[21:16:59] * marktraceur  considers filing a bug about RESTfulness
[21:17:05] 	 git add 
[21:17:10] 	 git commit --amend
[21:17:10] 	 git review
[21:17:30] 	 marktraceur: of the MediaWiki API?
[21:17:56] 	 sumanah: *nod*
[21:17:56] 	 feob: or in short, follow the instructions at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Workflow#Improving_a_change
[21:17:58] 	 sumanah: It's a losing battle :)
[21:18:11] 	 That's about as short as it gets
[21:18:15] 	 marktraceur: some others also consider this.
[21:18:25] 	 Although you can do add and message changing on the commit command line
[21:20:38] 	 03(mod) Requirements for autoconfirmeds in ruwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41831  normal->15enhancement; -shell +shellpolicy; +comment (10Dereckson)
[21:21:52] 	 okay, thanks, Ill try that
[21:22:06] 	 New code comment: Platonides; We never really setup a procedure. I don't think we ever conflicted there, either. \ It's you who cho; 
[21:22:30] 	 03(mod) Requesting a new hook to allow manipulation of image data (e.g. src attribute) before the image is rendered - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41835  (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[21:22:42] 	 03(mod) Requesting a new hook to allow manipulation of image data (e.g. src attribute) before the image is rendered - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41835  normal->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[21:23:28] 	 03(mod) Requesting a new hook to allow manipulation of image data (e.g. src attribute) before the image is rendered - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41835   +patch-need-review; +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[21:23:35] 	 New code comment: Krinkle; Those are all solvable problems. That's for another time.; 
[21:24:20] 	 03(mod) Search should check if page exists in namespaces other than main - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/11380  +comment (10Krinkle)
[21:26:24] 	 03(mod) Search suggestions for namespace prefix returns single page result (Lucene + SimpleSearch / mwsuggest / opensearch) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/26443  normal->minor; +comment (10Krinkle)
[21:27:45] 	 03(mod) Wikidata: Add "WD:" and "WT:" as namespace aliases for Wikidata: and Wikidata talk: - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41834   +patch-in-gerrit; +comment (10Dereckson)
[21:27:45] 	 03(UNCONFIRMED) SimpleSearch ignores user/site default search namespace settings - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24214  +comment (10Krinkle)
[21:27:53] 	 New review: RobLa; "Shouldn't this use the GetCacheVaryCookies hook to add the specific cookie in question rather than g..." [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32030
[21:28:04] 	 is the content on special pages headers or footers cached or not? say mediawiki:recentchangestext
[21:28:10] 	 03(mod) mediawiki.searchSuggest: Support user search namespace preferences - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24214  summary (10Krinkle)
[21:29:06] 	 03(NEW) Make MediaWiki more RESTful - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41837 enhancement; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (mtraceur)
[21:29:35] * marktraceur  can feel the flames lapping at the edges of the building
[21:29:36] 	 New patchset: Feob; "Some consistency tweaks in preparation for translation" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticImageAnnotator] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32097
[21:30:13] <^demon|lunch>	 Danny_B|backup: Shouldn't be, beyond basic message cache caching.
[21:30:57] 	 03(mod) Make MediaWiki more RESTful - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41837  +comment (10Mark Holmquist)
[21:31:14] 	 ^demon|lunch: so if somebody puts 30 times {{pagesincategory:}} on it, it will be quite expensive to render that page, right?
[21:31:35] 	 hello sumanah 
[21:31:44] 	 hi Danny_B|backup 
[21:31:49] 	 New code comment: Platonides; AFAIK, in GitHub you need one more fork. So you end up with the same project in many people clones, ; 
[21:31:57] 	 hi sumanah ;)
[21:32:00] 	 hi hoo!
[21:32:05] <^demon|lunch>	 Danny_B|backup: Something like that ;-)
[21:32:48] 	 Hmmmm I've a strange issue
[21:32:55] 	 error: failed to push some refs to 'ssh://dereckson@gerrit.wikimedia.org:29418/operations/mediawiki-config.git'
[21:33:00] 	 in a changeset edit
[21:33:19] 	 oh Dzahn deployed immediately my change
[21:33:24] 	 that explains that
[21:35:52] 	 03(mod) Requesting a new hook to allow manipulation of image data (e.g. src attribute) before the image is rendered - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41835  +comment (10Victor Danilchenko)
[21:36:51] 	 New code comment: Krinkle; 
AFAIK, in GitHub you need one more fork.
 \ No, you don't. Just like; 
[21:38:33] 	 JeroenDeDauw: ^demon|lunch - I am organizing https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Gerrit_project_ownership#A_bunch_of_new_groups finally. 
[21:38:38] 	 New review: Feob; "Thanks for the patch, Raimond!" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticImageAnnotator] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32097
[21:38:38] 	 Change merged: Feob; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticImageAnnotator] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32097
[21:39:25] 	 Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31951
[21:40:45] 	 New review: Asher; "I'm glad to see archive get a PK, but want to see a review from someone like Aaron who might better ..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30431
[21:41:58] 	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Calendar view for the filtered format." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27831
[21:42:04] 	 New review: Demon; "The *eventual* plan is to get rid of archive and actually use rev_del columns appropriately (so we c..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30431
[21:42:17] 	 New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "Well, clicking the rebase button worked, so if there where any conflicts, you fixed them :)" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27831
[21:42:50] 	 Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27831
[21:43:26] 	 JeroenDeDauw: look at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/admin/groups/37,members and https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/admin/groups/386,members to see if that's how you want it organized? if so then I will go ahead and do that for the others you mentioned
[21:44:00] 	 Platonides: Enjoy ext.codeReview discussions? I do miss them, compared to Gerrit threads that get lost..
[21:46:19] 	 New code comment: Platonides; But you still need to clone it locally, so that makes three copies. \ Seems the notice only appears i; 
[21:46:45] 	 Krinkle, it's not threading for some reason :P
[21:46:46] 	 New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "During update" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: -1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31508
[21:46:58] 	 Platonides: yeah, some css is missing I guess.
[21:47:10] 	 Change merged: Asher; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30188
[21:47:13] 	 When I do git status, it tells me that my branch is ahed of 'origin/master' by 7 commits - what does that mean? (and is it bad?)
[21:47:28] 	 hm.. no, its not the css (margin-left: 0px is on each one of them)
[21:47:45] 	 I did send some of them as replies
[21:47:46] 	 feob: Do "git branch" which one has the * on it?
[21:47:54] 	 but it was ignored
[21:48:39] 	 Krinkle: It only returns one line:   *master
[21:48:53] 	 feob: Then it is bad
[21:48:53] 	 I did enjoy looking again at Special:Code on some Intuition commits
[21:48:53] 	 but you are now moving it away... :)
[21:49:01] 	 feob: You should've branched before making local changes
[21:49:23] 	 feob, you should rebase
[21:49:30] 	 feob: Do "git branch -m my-change-subject" then "git branch master -t origin/master"
[21:49:45] 	 That way you save your changes in your topic branch and re-create master the way it should be
[21:50:07] 	 -t ? that one is new to me
[21:50:13] 	 short for --set-tracking
[21:50:46] 	 I just do git checkout -B master origin/master
[21:51:07] 	 New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "Some failing tests on ItemHandlerTest::testGetPageLanguage" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: -1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31508
[21:51:31] 	 -b master -t origin/master works on git-checkout as well
[21:51:41] 	 except one doesn't want to check it out in this case
[21:51:56] 	 Am I supposed to make a new branch for every commit ? 
[21:52:07] 	 feob: Every "change" yes.
[21:52:15] 	 unrelated changes should be in different branches.
[21:52:27] 	 That is, for submission to MediaWiki on Gerrit.
[21:52:42] 	 For your own site, you can cherry-pick them to a common branch for actual usage.
[21:53:19] 	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Fixed fatal and obtain namespaces via Utils class" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32140
[21:53:19] 	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "(bug 41597) Provide a special page, Special:EntitiesWithoutLabel to list entities without label for a given language." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31508
[21:53:20] 	 since you yourself may want to use them together. But when submitting to Gerrit they should not have a broken dependency on an unrelated commit. Because by committing to the same branch, the commits will have a parent-relation that is broken.
[21:54:53] 	 New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "Rebased and resolved conflicts in i18n file" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: -1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31508
[21:55:09] 	 03(mod) Not receiving Wikipedia email notifications - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39298  +comment (10Chris Maloney)
[21:55:48] 	 Oh my. I only know subversion, this is all very confusing ;) - It now says (rebase) after directory instead of (master).
[21:56:00] 	 But status still says 7 commits ahead
[21:56:52] 	 feob: You may find http://geekchick77.dreamwidth.org/2360.html useful
[21:56:59] 	 in general
[21:57:43] 	 03(mod) Review and deploy Score extension to Wikimedia wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33193  +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara)
[21:58:13] 	 New patchset: Hoo man; "(bug 41793) Make contribs. link on Special:ListUsers red when the user got 0 edits" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32141
[21:58:23] 	 JeroenDeDauw: do you have a moment to look at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/admin/groups/37,members and https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/admin/groups/386,members to see if that's how you want it organized? if so then I will go ahead and do that for the others you mentioned
[21:58:28] 	 sumanah: Thanks, headline looks promising ;) Ill read that and maybe I'll be able to ask more qualified questions, then ;)
[21:58:30] 	 :)
[21:58:43] 	 and welcome to Git and to Wikimedia tech in general, feob :)
[21:58:59] 	 feob: has someone already pointed you to https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_become_a_MediaWiki_hacker ?
[21:59:02] 	 Change merged: Asher; [mediawiki/extensions/GlobalUsage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29524
[21:59:03] 	 03(ASSIGNED) Contribution links to users with 0 edits no longer show up as red - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41793   +patch-in-gerrit; +comment (10Marius Hoch)
[22:00:03] * sumanah  needs to head to a meeting
[22:00:11] 	 sumanah: Nope, but the headline is even better ;) 
[22:00:27] 	 Krinkle, here is how it looks if it's in Domains.php but not in messages: http://toolserver.org/~platonides/wlm/uploads.php
[22:00:40] 	 I'd like to get rid of Domains.php, btw :P
[22:00:42] 	 Don't modify the files from the repository.
[22:00:48] 	 Yes, me too.
[22:00:57] 	 Include the common git repo from the intuition project.
[22:01:10] 	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Fixed fatal and obtain namespaces via Utils class" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32140
[22:01:10] 	 You don't even need to to git-pull that way
[22:01:27] 	 If you check it out yourself, you're doing it in an unsupported/undocumented way.
[22:01:44] 	 New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "Issues resolved by follow up I075b91e4" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31508
[22:01:49] 	 why don't you want people sending changes you didn't  review?
[22:02:09] 	 03(mod) Make MediaWiki more RESTful - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41837  +comment (10Federico "Lox" Lucignano)
[22:02:11] 	 why would other people want your changes?
[22:02:45] 	 Not me in particular. Why would I want changes from other mediawiki developers when using mediawiki/core?
[22:02:48] 	 You tell me.
[22:02:57] 	 Because it makes sense.
[22:03:03] 	 loading the code from the intuition project is an instant privilege escalation for people in the intuition mmp
[22:03:39] 	 Unreviewed changes are unacceptable. However changes to your tools' i18n file I will not contest. You decide what messages they will have and how they are formulated.
[22:04:09] 	 I agree everything should eventually be reviewed
[22:04:16] 	 not "eventually:
[22:04:30] 	 Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32140
[22:04:30] 	 Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31508
[22:04:56] 	 But pre-review is still mandatory (always has been) to make sure you don't change other people's tools without their consent, and don't put non-messages in your i18n files (e.g. file_put_contents and read my mysql password or something) 
[22:05:08] 	 Change merged: J; [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32077
[22:05:15] 	 always has been, because I never deployed to toolserver before reviewing all changes since the last deployment.
[22:05:26] 	 and who reviews your changes?
[22:05:42] 	 until now nobody did, but everybody on CodeReview could.
[22:06:08] 	 You could've reviewed my changes, set them to 'ok', 'fixme' etc., just like I did yours.
[22:06:14] 	 I know
[22:06:26] 	 actually, I think i made some of them fixme
[22:06:39] 	 it's a bit more unlikely that I ok them
[22:06:40] 	 03(mod) Make MediaWiki more RESTful - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41837  +comment (10Mark Holmquist)
[22:06:53] 	 since bugs manifest themselves
[22:07:08] 	 at this moment siebrand, jan luca and I are the owners of the project, so we can deploy if we need to. (or better yet, in most cases it is because people were asking us to because they want new updates)
[22:07:09] 	 anyway, the point was that you were complaining about me sending unreviewed changes
[22:07:13] 	 but yours weren't more than me
[22:07:22] 	 *mine
[22:07:22] 	 but I co-own the project.
[22:07:41] 	 That doens't make it right, but it does mean I was either given permission to deploy (or in this case, created the thing)
[22:07:43] 	 and you started it, too
[22:07:53] 	 :)
[22:08:00] 	 whereas you, with no disrespect, started comitting to the repo with no discussion, to master.
[22:08:12] 	 and beyond just i18n changes
[22:08:38] 	 Krinkle: "no disrespect" = with respect?
[22:08:52] 	 New patchset: Reedy; "Update TMH to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf3) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32143
[22:09:06] 	 I think he means "not trying tto treat you with disrespect"
[22:09:07] 	 it means, I don't blame you for it because there was no better/usable way in svn. 
[22:09:08] 	 at least, I hope so :)
[22:09:30] 	 and I do respect you, because the features are nice.
[22:09:36] 	 I just picked the way we did things in mediawiki
[22:09:57] 	 03(mod) "My notifications" opens overlapping unreadable text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41814  +comment (10Krenair)
[22:10:13] 	 and talking about "my" or "yours"  is IMHO the wrong terminology
[22:10:20] 	 btw, I also implemented a phpunit test suite and made it automatically run on pull-requests so when you submit something now, you can instantly see if it passes tests (if you didn't run it locally already) and more importantly the repo owners can see it, which will make it much easier to merge stuff.
[22:10:20] 	 I consider it a common project
[22:10:52] 	 not by us two, but "mediawiki developers", "toolserver developers", or however you want to call it 
[22:11:04] 	 I agree that phpunit tests are something very needed
[22:11:07] 	 Whatever you call it. "Those with +2" and those without.
[22:11:11] 	 hehe
[22:11:33] 	 I never picked the "testing with demo pages"
[22:11:33] 	 Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf3) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32143
[22:11:41] 	 Platonides: They weren't intended for testing :P
[22:11:52] 	 It was so that I can easily show someone how to use it in their tool.
[22:11:54] 	 well, ensuring that it worked
[22:12:06] 	 yes, that became incidently a second purpose.
[22:12:06] 	 Krinkle: The Pulletariat and the Pushoisie?
[22:12:11] 	 I thought it was an expected benefit
[22:12:18] 	 but was hard to assert since you only see the current output. 
[22:12:38] 	 Platonides: When the number of demo pages raised above 5, yes that was an intended purpose.
[22:12:54] 	 Which is why the first thing I did when I spent time on the tool again is implement a proper test suite.
[22:13:04] 	 and set up a hook with Travis-Ci as well. (cloud jenkins)
[22:13:17] 	 marktraceur: link?
[22:13:19] 	 marktraceur: not sure I know what you're referring to
[22:13:41] 	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "flip order of conditions to make better use of index" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32144
[22:13:42] 	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Updated @since tags since we are going to backport this" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32145
[22:13:42] 	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Updated release notes" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32146
[22:13:48] 	 Krinkle, does travis-ci guard the github gate?
[22:13:57] 	 Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32144
[22:14:03] 	 Krinkle: It's a reference to Marx's "Proletariat" (the 99% in modern parlance) and "Bourgeoisie", (the 1%).
[22:14:03] 	 Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32145
[22:14:10] 	 Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32146
[22:14:19] 	 New review: Hoo man; "(Untested)" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32091
[22:14:41] 	 Krinkle: He, and the various marxist movements, also sometimes refer to them as "the haves" and "the have nots"
[22:14:48] 	 Platonides: It does what Jenkins does for Gerrit. Test stuff before merging.
[22:15:03] 	 .. and show the test result on the pull request
[22:16:40] 	 03(mod) Make MediaWiki more RESTful - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41837  +comment (10Federico "Lox" Lucignano)
[22:19:31] 	 btw, how did you clone the svn history?
[22:19:36] 	 I get a different hash...
[22:20:34] 	 03(NEW) Make it possible for users without the editinterface right to edit the AbuseFilter messages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41838 normal; MediaWiki extensions: AbuseFilter; (od_mishehu)
[22:20:44] 	 03(mod) Make MediaWiki more RESTful - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41837  +comment (10Mark Holmquist)
[22:20:59] 	 03(mod) Make it possible for users without the editinterface right to edit the AbuseFilter messages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41838  (10od_mishehu)
[22:22:29] 	 Platonides: git-svn
[22:22:48] 	 You probably don't have the same author mapping
[22:22:59] 	 I get 44ac9a1b78.. for Cosmetics
[22:23:05] 	 did you do something special with the authors?
[22:23:14] 	 remember that the hash is created of everything in the commit, including author name/e-mail
[22:23:14] 	 03(mod) "My notifications" opens overlapping unreadable text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41814  (10Nemo)
[22:23:29] 	 I know
[22:23:30] 	 Platonides:   git svn clone https://svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki TsIntuition -T "trunk/tools/ToolserverI18N" --authors-file=/Users/krinkle/Development/svn-authors 
[22:23:47] 	 https://gist.github.com/037e69a9650f5053da06
[22:23:49] 	 what I didn't know is that there were authors configuration
[22:24:02] 	 03(mod) Foo?action=info should rather be Special:PageInfo/Foo instead - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41836  +comment (10MZMcBride)
[22:24:07] 	 git requires an e-mail for authors
[22:24:28] 	 https://gist.github.com/f0acf342e1fc7db21fb3 (bash script I use to generate that file)
[22:24:28] 	 so it rejected krinkle@dd0e9695-b195-4be7-bd10-2dea1a65a6b6 ?
[22:24:58] 	 is that a question?
[22:24:59] 	 not really :P
[22:25:14] 	 btw, regarding how travis works
[22:25:18] 	 See https://github.com/Krinkle/sandbox/pull/2 and https://github.com/Krinkle/sandbox/pull/3
[22:25:21] 	 one fails one passes
[22:25:27] 	 pretty nicely integrated
[22:25:46] 	 (the dots in the commit lines between conversation and the main badge on the opening post for the last commit)
[22:26:19] 	 that doesn't tell me anything...
[22:26:49] 	 it tells you whether the build failed or passed. click "Details" for the test results (the "Console output" as it is called in Jenkins)
[22:27:47] 	 03(mod) Foo?action=info should rather be Special:PageInfo/Foo instead - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41836  +comment (10Krinkle)
[22:27:49] 	 DanielFriesen: ^
[22:27:55] 	 Dantman
[22:28:34] 	 03(mod) Make MediaWiki more RESTful - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41837  +comment (10Brad Jorsch)
[22:28:40] 	 I think it should have been cloned without git-svn-id: urls, and in two repos
[22:28:50] 	 03(mod) Foo?action=info should rather be Special:PageInfo/Foo instead - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41836  +comment (10MZMcBride)
[22:31:32] 	 New patchset: Kaldari; "Making sure badge container is a consistant height" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32149
[22:32:06] 	 03(mod) Make MediaWiki more RESTful - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41837  +comment (10Mark Holmquist)
[22:35:34] 	 03(mod) Make MediaWiki more RESTful - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41837  +comment (10Brad Jorsch)
[22:37:42] 	 03(mod) Make MediaWiki more RESTful - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41837  +comment (10Platonides)
[22:39:39] 	 03(mod) Make MediaWiki more RESTful - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41837  +comment (10Platonides)
[22:42:16] 	 Change merged: Kaldari; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32149
[22:44:42] 	 03(mod) "My notifications" opens overlapping unreadable text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41814  (10bsitu)
[22:45:48] 	 03(mod) "My notifications" red traffic light eye-sore - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41815  +comment (10Nemo)
[22:50:48] 	 03(mod) Creating a Git/Gerrit/Labs account requires human intervention - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37628  04BLOCKER->normal; +comment (10MZMcBride)
[22:51:34] 	 New patchset: Subramanya Sastry; "Additional Parsoid-centric tests to improve code coverage." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32150
[22:51:49] 	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Removed check for semantic type - this has not been needed for quite a while" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticImageAnnotator] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32151
[22:54:28] 	 03(mod) Make MediaWiki more RESTful - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41837  +comment (10Mark Holmquist)
[22:54:44] * marktraceur  sighs
[22:54:53] 	 This bug is a lot of trouble
[22:57:22] 	 New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Change 'optional' => 'required'; fix tests" [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31363
[22:58:33] 	 Change merged: GWicke; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32150
[22:59:54] 	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Stylized. Removed ?>, removed indent, added missing spaces, split some stuff to multiple lines, removed not needed check" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticImageAnnotator] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32152
[23:04:44] 	 03(mod) "My notifications" red traffic light eye-sore - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41815  +comment (10Ryan Kaldari)
[23:04:58] 	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Fixed indent" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticExtraSpecialProperties] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32153
[23:08:22] 	 03(mod) "My notifications" red traffic light eye-sore - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41815  +comment (10Ryan Kaldari)
[23:08:37] 	 New patchset: Spage; "Update E3Experiments to master (interactive validation)" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf3) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32090
[23:09:27] 	 03(mod) Make MediaWiki more RESTful - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41837  +comment (10Ori Livneh)
[23:10:21] 	 New review: Spage; "(Code change was approved in https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/30755 )" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf3); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32090
[23:10:22] 	 Change merged: Spage; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf3) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32090
[23:12:11] 	 03(mod) "My notifications" red traffic light eye-sore - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41815  +comment (10Krinkle)
[23:13:36] 	 03(mod) Make MediaWiki more RESTful - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41837  +comment (10Brad Jorsch)
[23:13:47] 	 Is there no way to get better error reporting out of our HTTP class? ( svn.wikimedia.org/doc/classHttp.html )
[23:15:45] 	 03(mod) "My notifications" red traffic light eye-sore - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41815  +comment (10Nemo)
[23:15:45] 	 It only says "returns false on error", but I want the error code at least, and if possible, the actual error response.
[23:16:21] 	 New review: Aaron Schulz; "ApiQueryRecentChanges.php seems broken by inspection." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30167
[23:16:24] 	 03(mod) Make MediaWiki more RESTful - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41837  +comment (10Platonides)
[23:16:49] 	 marktraceur, while you have your http zealot hat on, maybe you could debug wtf is the response of the collection servers
[23:16:59] 	 which has some kind of bogus content-length
[23:17:47] 	 Platonides: Whoa, zealot is a bit strong. I suggested something. I didn't profess any great specialty in it.
[23:25:38] 	 03(mod) Notifications list is broken and less capable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41830  +comment (10Ryan Kaldari)
[23:38:09] 	 New review: MrBlueSky; "About the two false positives: I think there isn't much which can be done to fix such cases, at leas..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28908
[23:42:34] 	 Blech... Echo looks still to alpha-ey
[23:43:23] 	 New review: Aaron Schulz; "Should be "lays the foundations for"." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32053
[23:44:36] 	 03(mod) toolbar and header/footer from proofread page on wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31566  +comment (10Alessandro Brollo)
[23:44:56] 	 New review: Aaron Schulz; "Please leave "PatchsetX" style comments in gerrit alone." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28908
[23:47:17] 	 ok, I've now sent out the note to the API list about https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API/API_rewrite ... anyone who wants can forward it to the main devel list if that's wanted
[23:48:16] 	 14(DUP) ExtensionDistributor not working: "Invalid response from Extension Distributor remote client." - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41824  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[23:48:16] 	 03(mod) ExtensionDistributor does not work: "Invalid response from Extension Distributor remote client" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41081  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[23:50:14] 	 03(mod) Watchlist, LiquidThreads and Echo notifications need to be unified - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/20541  +comment (10Ryan Kaldari)
[23:51:04] 	 Krinkle: On the topic of the PageView branch (Special pages / actions fusion)... I just had a brilliant idea for what to do with action=raw
[23:51:42] 	 Tell me about it
[23:52:05] 	 andre__: so, I have been informed that ExtensionDistributor questions/problems/etc should go to Chad's attention, not so much Tim's
[23:52:47] 	 Krinkle: Whoops... sorry, I mean &action=render
[23:53:00] 	 Stupid r's
[23:53:11] 	 either way, what' s the idea?
[23:53:12] 	 03(NEW) Echo disables existing watchlist email notifications - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41839 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Echo; (rkaldari)
[23:53:17] 	 sumanah, okay, that would be https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41081
[23:53:23] 	 03(mod) Echo disables existing watchlist email notifications - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41839  (10Ryan Kaldari)
[23:53:41] 	 03(mod) ExtensionDistributor does not work: "Invalid response from Extension Distributor remote client" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41081  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[23:54:45] 	 I would like to add an image to the background of the infobox header like the french wiki has for infobox:ecrivain
[23:54:46] 	 http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mod%C3%A8le:Infobox_%C3%89crivain
[23:56:17] 	 Krinkle: Well action=render is basically the exact same as action=view. The only difference is that OutputPage is "disabled" and all the bodytext is outputted directly.
[23:56:51] 	 03(mod) ExtensionDistributor does not work: "Invalid response from Extension Distributor remote client" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41081  (10Rob Lanphier)
[23:59:00] 	 Krinkle: Before I was thinking I'd be adding Special:Render. And I wondered if I should make Special:Render/Special:Version work... for some reason.