[00:00:24] New review: Markus Kroetzsch; "Urgent fix. Hopefully all correct now." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32844 [00:00:24] Change merged: Markus Kroetzsch; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32844 [00:03:12] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "Markus, thanks for your feedback, you're indeed right." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32720 [00:04:27] New patchset: Mwjames; "Merge branch 'master' into 1.9.x" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (1.9.x) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32845 [00:04:55] Change merged: Mwjames; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (1.9.x) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32845 [00:04:58] * Isarra hugs Krenair and csteipp. [00:05:00] Thank you both. [00:05:11] you're welcome [00:05:58] anybody wants to do some reviewing? here's a straightforward accessibility patch, waiting for a month now: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/27734/ (it's not even mine) [00:06:05] +29, -28 [00:06:27] Isarra: Likewise. And if you need CerntralAuth help, ping me and might be able to point you in the right direction... [00:06:52] csteipp: on that note, how would I make it work for a private wiki w/ no outside viewing? [00:07:05] Jasper_Deng: CentralAuth? [00:07:10] yeah [00:07:16] It would pretty much work the same way [00:07:25] not on my private wiki [00:07:31] where autologins don't work [00:07:39] do I have to whitelist Special:Autologin? [00:08:11] Oh, yeah, you would need that whitelisted for SUL to work [00:08:21] Assuming you want single sign-in [00:08:45] yes, I'll try that [00:08:56] 03(mod) Wikivoyage: interwiki links require a cleanup/automatic replacement - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41986 +comment (10Robin Pepermans (SPQRobin)) [00:09:07] And then, of course, having the wiki listed in the autologin. [00:09:17] (I'm not sure how far you got in the process) [00:09:20] it is [00:10:13] * Jasper_Deng tests [00:10:20] New review: Reedy; "I don't know if this even works currently." [mediawiki/extensions/RelatedSites] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32839 [00:12:15] Man, so many crazy extensions to set up... [00:18:18] 03(mod) Wikivoyage: interwiki links require a cleanup/automatic replacement - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41986 +comment (10Nemo) [00:19:08] New review: Mwjames; "I ever feared the day where tests will become mandatory. I spent somewhat 6 hours to get phpunit run..." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (1.9.x); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32347 [00:25:48] csteipp_afk: it doesn't work [00:26:05] Jasper_Deng, what do you mean doesn't work? [00:26:20] Krenair: my SUL doesn't work [00:26:48] Okay [00:26:58] even though I have $wgWhitelistRead and $wgWhitelistEdit set [00:27:12] You're trying to get AutoLogin working on the signin page working? [00:27:13] any mailing list wizards around? I just joined mediawiki-l to respond with a solution to someone's post and I'd like to respond with the proper headers so it stays in thread and whatever. Any way to get a respond-able version of an old mailing list email? [00:27:26] Krenair: yes [00:27:31] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "It's not mandatory - I'm just saying that right now I'm not confident this works completely as inten..." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (1.9.x); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32347 [00:28:11] Jasper_Deng, the images are being included in the page, but aren't loading? [00:28:32] Krenair: not the problem - I login to one of my wikis, the login does not stick [00:28:35] it logs back out [00:28:38] (account is not locked) [00:28:56] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "I'm running the SMW tests as follows:" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (1.9.x); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32347 [00:30:31] Jasper_Deng, so your images are loading, but when going to the remote wiki you're not logged in? [00:30:40] Krenair: not even on the local wiki [00:30:49] (I don't use the images) [00:31:56] 03(mod) Local images missing on new en.wikivoyage.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41985 normal->major; +comment (10This, that and the other) [00:32:00] New patchset: Reedy; "Delete old BreadCrumbs files" [mediawiki/extensions/GeoCrumbs] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32846 [00:32:33] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions/GeoCrumbs] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32846 [00:33:36] 03(mod) SMW 1.8: Problems with date conversion - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38723 +comment (10Jeroen De Dauw) [00:34:41] 14(INVALID) Local images missing on new en.wikivoyage.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41985 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [00:35:45] 03(mod) Echo doesn't work on SQLite - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41987 summary (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [00:36:33] 03(FIXED) Setup www.wikivoyage.org landing page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41977 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [00:36:39] 03(mod) SMW 1.8: Problems with date conversion - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38723 +comment (10MWJames) [00:37:42] 03(mod) Adjust default timezones on Wikivoyage wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41992 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [00:38:24] 03(mod) Search index for Wikivoyage wikis needs to be generated - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41959 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [00:39:54] 14(DUP) Wikivoyage Mobile Link Broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41954 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [00:39:55] 03(mod) Setup Mobile for wikidatawiki and wikivoyages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41976 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [00:40:43] 03(mod) Local images missing on new en.wikivoyage.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41985 +comment (10This, that and the other) [00:42:15] 03(mod) Local images missing on new en.wikivoyage.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41985 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [00:42:33] 03(mod) Wikivoyage: breadcrumb navigation should appear in the Main namespace only - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41982 +comment (10Romaine) [00:43:26] 03(mod) Wikivoyage: breadcrumb navigation should appear in the Main namespace only - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41982 +comment (10Thehelpfulone) [00:44:15] 03(mod) Wikivoyage: breadcrumb navigation should appear in the Main namespace only - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41982 (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [00:45:07] 03(mod) Please set the Kalmyk Wikipedia logo - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41958 normal->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [00:52:52] 03(mod) Adjust default timezones on Wikivoyage wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41992 +comment (10Nemo) [00:54:05] 03(mod) Adjust default timezones on Wikivoyage wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41992 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [00:54:59] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "Looks good mostly. Two small things that need taking care off though - and a few style issues that m..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32586 [00:56:36] New patchset: Mwjames; "(Bug 40748) Move SRF 1.8 Feed printer into SMW 1.8 core" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32847 [01:01:40] 03(mod) SMW 1.8: Problems with date conversion - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38723 +comment (10Markus Krötzsch) [01:03:55] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "Looks good" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master); V: 0 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32847 [01:04:18] 03(mod) Setup www.wikivoyage.org landing page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41977 (10Nemo) [01:09:13] 03(FIXED) VisualEditor: Unlisting should unlist all list levels - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37905 +comment (10Roan Kattouw) [01:10:28] 03(NEW) Swedish Wikivoyage sitenotice's "View this page on the old site" link points to the English site - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41993 normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (lijonathan154) [01:11:30] 03(mod) Swedish Wikivoyage sitenotice's "View this page on the old site" link points to the English site - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41993 (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [01:12:04] 03(mod) Swedish Wikivoyage sitenotice's "View this page on the old site" link points to the English site - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41993 (10sumone10154) [01:12:05] 03(mod) Wikivoyage migration (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41184 (10sumone10154) [01:13:20] 03(mod) SMW 1.8: Problems with date conversion - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38723 +comment (10Markus Krötzsch) [01:15:07] Are extensions likely to eat each other? [01:15:27] Isarra: Define "eat" [01:17:49] Might two extensions affecting the same general area perhaps... interfere with each other? [01:19:18] Isarra: It's possible, but unlikely. [01:19:50] Isarra: You may want to test against similar or complementary extensions if you think you may be causing a bad reaction [01:20:21] Aye... [01:25:17] Isarra: in general don't run multiple extensions that are designed to do similar thigns [01:25:24] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Cut-n-paste to external sources gives broken links as URIs point to # not their destination - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38033 +comment (10Roan Kattouw) [01:25:55] Sometimes, though, the similar things are distinct and separate things which are both needed, however. [01:26:10] I suppose if all else fails we can just patch the smaller one. [01:32:46] 03(mod) Make bits.wikimedia.org Cross-Origin Resource Sharing (CORS) compatible - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/25886 +comment (10Roan Kattouw) [01:33:19] can someone set up extension distributor for 1.20? [01:33:28] and maybe add it to the release checklist? [01:43:40] hmm i'm surprised that Brooke hasn't been involved in that ML thread [01:56:23] New review: Alex Monk; "See PS5 comments." [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30438 [02:04:42] 03(mod) Local images missing on new en.wikivoyage.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41985 +comment (10Ryan Holliday) [02:06:16] Krenair: you probably do recall correctly about CentralAuth being a huge pain; it certainly was for me, and I never did get it working [02:12:22] i'm starting to wonder, Have the spammers found a way to defeat Asirra, or do they get past it manually? [02:18:27] 14(INVALID) Swedish Wikivoyage sitenotice's "View this page on the old site" link points to the English site - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41993 +comment (10This, that and the other) [02:21:02] New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Remove article edit events from E3Experiments" [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32850 [02:29:08] New patchset: Hoo man; "Fixed action=query list=blocks for IPv6 addresses" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32851 [02:31:25] 03(mod) LiquidThreads does not completely repudiate Special:NewMessages when Echo is activated" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41972 +comment (10Krenair) [02:34:57] New review: John Erling Blad; "A few comments on a possible problem. I don't see the reasoning behind some of the changes to use ti..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32586 [02:35:37] why do I have to trigger all my changes manually? [03:12:40] In the revision table, does anyone know what the rev_sha1 column is actually for? [03:13:39] its a sha hash of the revision or something [03:13:48] But why? [03:14:21] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Rev_sha1#rev_sha1 [03:14:42] It's very illuminating. [03:14:43] I would just so you could caclulate edits that are the same or something [03:15:12] Think it's important? [03:15:30] well we don't add things for no reason [03:15:41] Isarra: not yet, but it was just recently added [03:15:42] I have this wiki I'm trying to debug and that's one of the things it lacks. [03:16:15] its the sha of the revision text [03:16:23] well if its lacking db tables, I would highly suggest rerunning the updater [03:24:08] What does parent::getMessageParameters(); mean? What's the parent? What are those colons? What is the fourth parameter and why is it missing? Whose pants are these? [03:29:24] Why is mediawiki so complicated? o__o [03:29:38] Isarra: some of those questions are just PHP questions, I think. [03:30:11] Others, I'd say are unanswerable. :) [03:30:24] the pants are mine, i think [03:30:51] india devcamp wifi is hella slow this morning :( [03:32:46] What database field am I missing that is screwing this entire thing up so much? [03:32:48] anyone know who can add 1.20 to the extension distributor? [03:32:48] Isarra: if you provide more context inregards to the errors, others may be better able to help you [03:33:15] Isarra: Have you tried running the updater again to see if this resolves the issues? [03:33:34] Yes. [03:33:51] can you pastebin its output? [03:36:44] http://pastebin.com/rh0Zuy18 [03:40:13] Isarra: and can you paste the exact error messages you are getting? [03:41:58] 03(NEW) No easy way to view all content of all languages of a newly-created entry - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41994 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; (jasper) [03:43:24] Notice: Undefined offset: 3 in /var/www/mediawiki/core/includes/logging/LogFormatter.php on line 954 [03:43:38] 03(mod) No easy way to view all content of all languages of a newly-created entry - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41994 +wikidata (10Marco Aurelio) [03:43:40] The patrollogformatter can't find the revision id that was patrolled. [03:43:58] And I don't even know where it's looking so I dunno what's missing. [03:46:49] Oh, hells, the blobs are missing. [03:47:07] And that's... buckets. [03:49:45] anyone know who can add 1.20 to the extension distributor now that 1.20.0 is out? [03:49:57] i'd like to write a subclass of ResourceLoaderModule that wraps wiki articles.. but I want the content to be pulled from Meta, if possible. i know meta has some kind of magical relationship with other wmf wikis because meta is (iirc) where you put user.js stuff that you want available globally. I'm just not sure what the nature of this magic is. anyone have any pointers? [03:50:26] Prod[a]: don't spam -- you asked 15 minutes ago [03:50:51] i've had to ask this same question for the last 6-7 releases.... [03:51:15] Prod[a]: i don't believe our git is setup with branches and such for that to be possible [03:51:21] i believe it is [03:51:21] (for the extensions [03:51:26] as it worked for 1.19 [03:51:34] based on the email i saw from Tim-away the otherday [03:52:11] Is there magic involved with meta? I thought it was just fashion to put things there. [03:52:11] few weeks ago i came by for some extension updates, and i was told that it was pulling from the 1.19 git repo [03:52:26] Isarra: could be; i'm not sure. [03:53:17] ori-l: no, we don't have any kind of global setup at wmf like that [03:53:22] for user scripts anyway [03:53:53] p858snake|l: what's the mechanics behind things like File: refs resolving to commons, etc? [03:54:01] or any other form of interwiki content-sharing? [03:54:22] !instantcommons | ori-l [03:54:23] ori-l: InstantCommons is a feature for MediaWiki 1.16+ that allows any MediaWiki installation to use media on the Wikimedia Commons. This has basically been realized via $wgForeignFileRepos. See . If you're only looking to use images from Wikimedia Commons and no other wikis, you can use the shortcut setting $wgUseInstantCommons to true. [03:54:35] ah! thanks. [03:54:38] * ori-l goes to read. [03:59:03] richardus: I was just wondering the same question you're asking, about Asirra. But I don't think there's a better option out there. [04:01:56] * Jasper_Deng pokes Krenair [04:02:35] about asirra, the version delivered with confirmedit needs to be updated [04:02:47] yeah, i use the other one, from Extension:Asirra [04:03:11] same [04:03:26] i don't think they were the same, last I checked [04:03:31] they aren't [04:03:40] the one delivered with confirmedit doesn't work [04:03:50] yeah, a lot of people have noticed that [04:03:52] which is weird since it's delivered with the actual release :) [04:05:57] is FancyCaptcha pretty secure? It's probably less of a pain in the neck for users to get through than Asirra, but supposedly it's easier for computers to recognize text than images [04:07:40] 03(mod) Wikivoyage: interwiki links require a cleanup/automatic replacement - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41986 +comment (10Carl Austin Bennett) [04:11:00] questy captcha generally works for a while [04:11:08] depending on how much traffic you get :P [04:12:05] is there a way to find out which revision a file was deleted on in gerrit? [04:13:03] Prod[a]: i always wondered about questy -- couldn't someone just figure out the answer to one question, and then write a tool to cycle through until it hits that question again? [04:13:05] Is it bad form to make mediawiki maintenance scripts that call python scripts? [04:13:45] Prod[a]: you would probably need to do it from the git commandline compared to directly in gerrit [04:13:50] Isarra: no [04:16:20] 03(NEW) action=mobileview doesn't convert page title, section names to language variants - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41995 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend; (brion) [04:16:20] 03(mod) Support for switching language variants - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32906 (10Brion Vibber) [04:16:22] Are wikis supposed to implode upon running update.php? [04:16:57] 03(mod) Support for switching language variants - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32906 +comment (10Brion Vibber) [04:17:18] What in the... [04:18:24] 03(mod) Wikipedia interwiki link appears to be broken on Wikivoyage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41943 +comment (10Carl Austin Bennett) [04:19:07] Great. I successfully fried the database. [04:19:16] Now that is a solid day's work. [04:20:55] 03(mod) Support for switching language variants - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32906 +comment (10Brion Vibber) [04:25:21] New patchset: Logicwiki; "Add Basic Tamil Grammar rules, unit test" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32855 [04:32:47] Could $wgLegacyEncoding fry a database? [04:37:56] New patchset: Siebrand; "JSLint/JSHint fixes." [mediawiki/extensions/LiquidThreads] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27553 [04:38:26] New patchset: Nischayn22; "Display copying/Copied msg when copying metadata" [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32713 [04:41:51] New review: MarkTraceur; "OK, one last nitpick, I promise this is the last thing:" [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32713 [04:42:58] New patchset: Amire80; "Cleanup Hebrew grammar code a little." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32858 [04:43:46] 03(NEW) Fatal exception when preloading content to a user script page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41996 normal; MediaWiki: Page editing; (at.light) [04:46:21] 03(mod) Fatal exception when preloading content to a user script page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41996 +comment (10This, that and the other) [04:47:14] 03(mod) Make MathJax menus translatable [upstream] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35038 +comment (10Siebrand) [04:54:58] santhosh, got a link to the chrome ime extension already? [04:56:40] New patchset: Mwjames; "(Bug 40748) Move SRF 1.8 Feed printer into SMW 1.8 core" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32847 [04:56:58] New patchset: Siebrand; "FFS is a bit wonky. Export 'en', too" [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32859 [04:58:48] Change merged: Siebrand; [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32859 [05:04:41] brion: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41994 - what's your opinion? [05:05:06] * brion loading... [05:05:41] 03(mod) ULS causes pages to be cached with random user language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41451 +comment (10Niklas Laxström) [05:07:07] 03(mod) Make MathJax menus translatable [upstream] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35038 (10pkrautzb) [05:12:47] 03(NEW) PythonSingleFFS replaces file contents with exported content - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41997 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Translate; (s.mazeland) [05:12:48] 03(mod) Bugs affecting translatewiki.net (errors from MediaWiki master) (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39480 (10Siebrand) [05:13:30] 03(mod) PythonSingleFFS replaces file contents with exported content - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41997 +comment (10Siebrand) [05:16:01] New patchset: Nischayn22; "Display Copied msg after copying metadata" [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32713 [05:20:25] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/MoodBar] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32589 [05:20:59] New review: MarkTraceur; "Awesome! Welcome to the family :)" [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32713 [05:26:02] New patchset: Mwjames; "Finalize SRF Feed printer move" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32861 [05:28:03] 03(NEW) Declaration of ForeignAPIRepo::getZoneUrl() should be compatible with that of FileRepo::getZoneUrl() - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41998 normal; MediaWiki: File management; (s.mazeland) [05:30:37] 03(mod) Declaration of ForeignAPIRepo::getZoneUrl() should be compatible with that of FileRepo::getZoneUrl() - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41998 (10Siebrand) [05:30:38] 03(mod) Bugs affecting translatewiki.net (errors from MediaWiki master) (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39480 (10Siebrand) [05:31:37] New patchset: Nischayn22; "RELEASE NOTES and examples." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticWatchlist] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32862 [05:35:01] 03(mod) result format rss / not working as expected (1.8 beta 1) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40748 +comment (10MWJames) [05:38:11] qgil_: Git/Tutorial and Git/Workflow pages on mw.org have a lot of duplicate content [05:40:26] New patchset: Logicwiki; "(bug 41957) Adding Kannada fonts Navilu, Gubbi" [mediawiki/extensions/WebFonts] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32863 [05:40:56] New review: Mwjames; "docs++" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32847 [05:53:32] 03(mod) Lohit Punjabi font problems - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40473 +comment (10Srikanth Logic) [05:54:00] New patchset: Santhosh; "Update jquery.uls from upstream" [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32865 [05:54:00] 03(mod) Pending pages protection doubles page load times - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40988 +comment (10Aaron Schulz) [05:58:12] 03(FIXED) Middle click with - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41988 +comment (10Santhosh Thottingal) [06:02:12] 03(mod) Dynamic message groups not in list=messagecollection API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41827 +comment (10Siebrand) [06:02:56] 03(FIXED) Dynamic message groups not in list=messagecollection API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41827 (10Siebrand) [06:03:44] New review: Nikerabbit; "The proper looks proper, though the start
and end
are separated almost by hundred lines..." [mediawiki/extensions/LiquidThreads] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27844 [06:05:48] New patchset: Malkum; "Bug 25274 - PLURAL suggested for headline messages on page translate move confirmation page" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32868 [06:08:01] 03(mod) "Copy metadata" failure (not copying custom copyright tags) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39927 +comment (10Nischay Nahata) [06:11:12] 03(mod) PLURAL suggested for headline messages on page translate move confirmation page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/25274 +comment (10Bharat Kumar Jonnalagadda) [06:19:18] 03(mod) ULS causes pages to be cached with random user language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41451 +comment (10Patrick Reilly) [06:19:57] 03(mod) Wikivoyage: breadcrumb navigation should appear in the Main namespace only - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41982 +comment (10sumone10154) [06:21:28] 03(mod) "Copy metadata" feature does not copy custom fields - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40147 +comment (10Nischay Nahata) [06:23:11] Change merged: Nikerabbit; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32858 [06:24:49] 03(mod) Cancel / Apply button on Display settings - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39832 (10Ershad K) [06:27:12] 03(NEW) Copy metada copies even if nothing was selected to copy - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41999 normal; MediaWiki extensions: UploadWizard; (nischayn22) [06:29:34] 04(REOPENED) Enable Special:Import for User:Arjunaraoc - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41880 +comment (10Arjuna Rao Chavala) [06:33:08] New patchset: Logicwiki; "Add Kannada fonts to repo" [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32869 [06:33:58] New patchset: Malkum; "Bug 25274 - PLURAL suggested for headline messages on page translate move confirmation page" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32870 [06:34:09] 03(mod) Add namespaces on [[:bar:]] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41962 +comment (10Al Bua) [06:39:50] New review: Nikerabbit; "Simpler way seems to be to extend MediaWikiLangTestCase." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32747 [06:50:24] 03(mod) Pending pages protection doubles page load times - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40988 +comment (10Aaron Schulz) [06:53:47] Change abandoned: Umherirrender; "Superseeded by I56d3f1bf" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32761 [06:55:32] New patchset: Malkum; "Fixed the coding convention again ... Phew!!!" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32871 [06:57:36] New patchset: Ershad Kunnakkadan; "Fixed Bug 39832 - Cancel / Apply button on Display settings" [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32872 [06:57:49] 03(mod) Article not longer reachable due to d: interwiki prefix now. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41980 +comment (10Umherirrender) [06:57:51] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "Avoid an extra parse call in the synced/FR_INCLUDES_CURRENT case." [mediawiki/extensions/FlaggedRevs] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32873 [06:58:44] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "Avoid a parse call in the synced/FR_INCLUDES_CURRENT case." [mediawiki/extensions/FlaggedRevs] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32873 [06:59:51] 03(NEW) Expose MessageGroups::getGroupSructure() via WebAPI - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42000 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Translate; (niklas.laxstrom) [07:00:05] New patchset: Malkum; "Bug 25274 - PLURAL suggested for headline messages on page translate move confirmation page" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32871 [07:01:36] New patchset: Malkum; "Bug 25274 - PLURAL suggested for headline messages on page translate move confirmation page" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32871 [07:01:48] 03(NEW) WikimediaMaintenance doesn't seem to have an extension page in mediawiki.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42001 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikimediaMaintenance; (amir.aharoni) [07:01:51] 03(mod) Documentation is out of date, incomplete (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/1 (10Amir E. Aharoni) [07:02:31] New patchset: Ershad Kunnakkadan; "Fixed Bug 39832 - Cancel / Apply button on Display settings" [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32872 [07:02:33] pong Nikerabbit [07:02:33] o.0 creating the extension page would have been faster than filing the bug [07:03:03] Nikerabbit, I have gone through those pages as a user only. [07:03:20] gong [07:03:35] Nikerabbit, or why are you telling me this? :) [07:04:14] qgil_: perhaps you know someone who could fix that [07:04:25] is jenkins broken? [07:04:48] New patchset: Siebrand; "Put all Wikimedia mobile apps in one aggregate group" [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32874 [07:05:06] Nikerabbit, have you considered filing a bug (and CC me)? I might volunteer with obvious overlapping but I'm no git expert [07:05:31] can do [07:05:50] f [07:05:56] Nikerabbit, thanks! It's late here. /me goes shutdown -now :) [07:06:02] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "[FileRepo] Fixed PHP function signature warning." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32875 [07:06:14] New patchset: Ershad Kunnakkadan; "Fixed Bug 39832 - Cancel / Apply button on Display settings" [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32872 [07:07:02] Change merged: Nikerabbit; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32871 [07:07:25] New patchset: Siebrand; "Remove obsolete messages" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32876 [07:07:58] 03(mod) PLURAL suggested for headline messages on page translate move confirmation page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/25274 +comment (10Bharat Kumar Jonnalagadda) [07:08:08] 03(FIXED) PLURAL suggested for headline messages on page translate move confirmation page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/25274 (10Niklas Laxström) [07:08:57] Change merged: Santhosh; [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32872 [07:09:25] New patchset: Umherirrender; "Let TextContentTest extends MediaWikiLangTestCase" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32747 [07:10:11] New review: Umherirrender; "Change to MediaWikiLangTestCase instead of setting wgLanguageCode and wgContLang self" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32747 [07:10:49] Change abandoned: Nikerabbit; "Dupe" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32870 [07:10:56] Change abandoned: Nikerabbit; "Dupe" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32868 [07:11:44] 03(FIXED) Cancel / Apply button on Display settings - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39832 +comment (10Ershad K) [07:12:34] New patchset: Siebrand; "Put all Wikimedia mobile apps in one aggregate group" [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32874 [07:12:54] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32876 [07:13:49] New patchset: Umherirrender; "SearchEngineTest.php must extends MediaWikiLangTestCase" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32757 [07:13:54] New patchset: Siebrand; "Update messages for Wikimedia mobile groups" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32877 [07:16:49] New patchset: Siebrand; "Put all Wikimedia mobile apps in one aggregate group" [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32874 [07:17:08] Change merged: Siebrand; [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32874 [07:17:14] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32877 [07:21:50] New patchset: Santhosh; "Update jquery.uls from upstream" [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32865 [07:23:18] Change merged: Nikerabbit; [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32865 [07:25:18] New review: IAlex; "Duplicate of I8f60ff9d." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32875 [07:29:42] New patchset: Siebrand; "Fix labels for Wikimedia Mobile Apps" [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32879 [07:29:57] Change merged: Siebrand; [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32879 [07:32:48] New patchset: Nischayn22; "Handle markers for both mapeditor and forminput." [mediawiki/extensions/Maps] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32880 [07:35:54] 03(mod) Wikivoyage: breadcrumb navigation should appear in the Main namespace only - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41982 +comment (10Romaine) [07:36:37] New patchset: Umherirrender; "SearchEngineTest.php must extends MediaWikiLangTestCase" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32757 [07:39:29] p858snake|l: unfortunately, there's no SOFIXIT status in bugzilla [07:40:02] {{SOFIXIT}} works just as well in a comment :p [07:41:44] New patchset: Nischayn22; "Added missing text area." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMaps] (nischayn) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32882 [07:43:30] 03(mod) Wikivoyage: interwiki links require a cleanup/automatic replacement - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41986 +comment (10Nemo) [07:49:52] 03(mod) "Copy metadata" failure (not copying custom copyright tags) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39927 +comment (10Nemo) [08:14:37] Change merged: Nikerabbit; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32695 [08:30:15] 03(mod) View contributions / recentchanges for an IP range - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/1035 (10od_mishehu) [08:32:23] 123i [08:50:21] 03(NEW) Display subtitle converted with Language Converter - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42002 normal; MediaWiki extensions: TimedMediaHandler; (liangent) [08:52:47] 03(mod) Support for switching language variants - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32906 +comment (10Liangent) [08:53:13] New review: Nikerabbit; "No bug number?" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32875 [08:59:56] New patchset: Nikerabbit; "Documentation refresh" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32688 [09:00:42] New review: Nikerabbit; "Can be reviewed." [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32703 [09:02:43] Just had a quick question... Would it be possible to add things like JQuery sliders into a normal Wiki page? [09:16:31] 03(mod) Make MathJax menus translatable [upstream] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35038 +comment (10Siebrand) [09:17:57] 03(FIXED) Input method window is transparent - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41533 +comment (10Santhosh Thottingal) [09:18:05] New patchset: Umherirrender; "Let TextContentTest extends MediaWikiLangTestCase" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32747 [09:18:36] Yes I am working on qooxdoo widgets in mediawiki [09:18:49] no ajax but can be. [09:19:20] 03(FIXED) Display settings section should be selected by default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39529 (10Santhosh Thottingal) [09:19:35] Just have to make a ext. and add options to select input and manipulate certian output [09:19:51] 03(FIXED) Display Settings shows dual labels for Font Selection - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41804 (10Santhosh Thottingal) [09:20:26] Hm, sounds a little harder then how I would use them in a normal web page :\ [09:21:36] Yes you would have to create your own template language for them [09:21:57] New patchset: Umherirrender; "SearchEngineTest.php must extends MediaWikiLangTestCase" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32757 [09:22:07] 03(mod) Expose MessageGroups::getGroupSructure() via WebAPI - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42000 +comment (10Siebrand) [09:22:52] {{slider: default 50 | max 100 | varname sliderData }} [09:23:09] would modify a base level javascript variable [09:23:09] Thats too bad, I have no idea how to do that, it would be nice to see them in Mediawiki's, Thanks anyways though. [09:23:58] working on hole widget sets , finishing testing righ tnow [09:24:02] whole^ [09:24:10] http://www.userspace.org/index.php/Testpage [09:25:32] not individual elements. but could be. [09:25:50] 03(ASSIGNED) Misplaced IME icon and selector in ULS language selector - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41738 +comment (10Santhosh Thottingal) [09:25:55] But mine dont need to be ,made for a specific task [09:28:32] ?_? What I meant by JQuery Slider was this, http://codecanyon.net/item/jquery-unislider/full_screen_preview/2224165?ref=lvraa [09:29:33] I wrote my own in html5 just to do flickr stuff [09:29:40] its on the main page [09:30:21] http://www.userspace.org/index.php/Main_Page could be modified to just do sliding [09:30:26] buthas many options [09:30:33] and is set to auto flip [09:30:55] Just for images of course. [09:31:08] but is just a html 5 layer. [09:32:09] no flash except in my audio section , if the codec is not open source it will use the flash mp3 codecs [09:34:23] New patchset: Siebrand; "Reformat code." [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32883 [09:35:30] Have not put any of my ext up on mediawiki site yet , as you see my top label , still working on them. [09:35:54] 03(NEW) search-redirect.php on www.wikipedia.org does not recognise Wikivoyage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42003 major; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (at.light) [09:36:04] But it is possiable without a doubt, but dont know of any that exist right now [09:36:32] 03(mod) search-redirect.php on www.wikipedia.org does not recognise Wikivoyage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42003 (10This, that and the other) [09:36:34] 03(mod) Wikivoyage migration (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41184 (10This, that and the other) [09:37:04] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32688 [09:37:07] 03(mod) search-redirect.php on www.wikipedia.org does not recognise Wikivoyage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42003 +shell (10This, that and the other) [09:37:35] 03(mod) search-redirect.php on www.wikipedia.org does not recognise Wikivoyage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42003 +comment (10Erik Moeller) [09:37:51] New patchset: Raimond Spekking; "Fix c&p error from I54e13245" [mediawiki/extensions/MoodBar] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32884 [09:38:02] Change merged: Raimond Spekking; [mediawiki/extensions/MoodBar] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32884 [09:40:24] Trying to get my base widgets done so I can work on the theme. [09:40:48] get to the desert of my page. been on the meat and potatoes for a long time. [09:43:19] Down to just the small bugs , whoopie! [09:46:30] 03(mod) Add namespaces on [[:bar:]] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41962 +shellpolicy; +comment (10Dereckson) [09:53:53] New patchset: Raimond Spekking; "1 author per line per Siebrands CR" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticExtraSpecialProperties] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32885 [09:54:44] New review: Raimond Spekking; "Done in Ic4e8cb06" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticExtraSpecialProperties] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32770 [09:55:46] 03(mod) Please set the Kalmyk Wikipedia logo - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41958 +comment (10Yaroslav Blanter) [10:01:36] New patchset: Santhosh; "Follow up of Ie536dbe1 trailing whitespaces" [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32886 [10:05:05] 03(FIXED) Update ancient /docroot/default/index.html - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38013 +comment (10Krinkle) [10:08:47] 03(mod) Add namespaces on [[:bar:]] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41962 +comment (10Dereckson) [10:13:58] New patchset: Nikerabbit; "Proper check for untranslated messages" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32889 [10:13:58] New patchset: Nikerabbit; "Better escaping in pyffs" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32890 [10:13:58] New patchset: Nikerabbit; "Rewritten pyffs to match mwextffs logic" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32891 [10:15:28] hi [10:17:58] is there a way to make mediawiki to not use load.php for css and js ? [10:18:47] 03(NEW) DefaultSettings.php's $wgNamespacesWithSubpages[NS_PROJECT] and [NS_HELP] should be true - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42004 minor; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (nathanlarson3141) [10:18:58] i am setingup reverse proxy on my server, and css and js are not cacheing [10:20:11] 03(mod) DefaultSettings.php's $wgNamespacesWithSubpages[NS_PROJECT] and [NS_HELP] should be true - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42004 +easy (10Nathan Larson) [10:23:35] 03(FIXED) Catalan Wikisource broken (wgProofreadPageNamespaceIds) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41616 +comment (10This, that and the other) [10:32:58] Change merged: Burthsceh; [mediawiki/extensions/RevisionCommentSupplement] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31842 [10:41:56] Hi. I have a few questions about mediawiki and wiki engines. Is it possible to require register and login for a media wiki-engine wiki? [10:42:02] 03(NEW) Unable to log in to my English Wikivoyage account after migration - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42005 normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (wikimedia.bugs) [10:42:02] 03(mod) Wikivoyage migration (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41184 (10Snowolf) [10:44:01] 03(mod) Unable to log in to my English Wikivoyage account after migration - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42005 +comment (10Snowolf) [10:54:29] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32891 [10:54:30] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32890 [10:54:30] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32889 [10:55:23] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32703 [10:58:11] 04(REOPENED) Middle click with - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41988 +comment (10Fomafix) [11:03:50] 03(NEW) Legacy userrights on Wikivoyage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42006 normal; Wikimedia: Site configuration; (wikimedia.bugs) [11:04:03] 03(mod) Legacy userrights on Wikivoyage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42006 (10Snowolf) [11:04:05] 03(mod) Wikivoyage migration (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41184 (10Snowolf) [11:05:17] 03(mod) Declaration of ForeignAPIRepo::getZoneUrl() should be compatible with that of FileRepo::getZoneUrl() - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41998 (10duplicatebug) [11:06:30] 03(mod) Fatal exception when preloading content to a user script page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41996 (10duplicatebug) [11:06:31] 03(mod) Format text/css is not supported for content model wikitext - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41706 (10duplicatebug) [11:09:00] 03(mod) No interwiki prefix for Wikidata - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41730 +comment (10Dereckson) [11:21:57] 03(mod) UI issue in the 'Your name' and 'Password' fields in the 'Name' page - IE8 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/26689 (10duplicatebug) [11:24:33] 03(mod) Filename input should be set to sanitized file name at the warning screen - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/26995 (10duplicatebug) [11:24:39] New review: Nikerabbit; "This is included in Ic0a5b37f" [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32886 [11:26:19] Change merged: Nikerabbit; [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32883 [11:26:55] 03(mod) Forcing an index on a select query when doing a table join gives a query error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27081 (10duplicatebug) [11:32:10] 03(mod) USE INDEX is inserted in the wrong place when left joining in other tables - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27659 (10duplicatebug) [11:33:37] 03(mod) Legacy userrights on Wikivoyage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42006 +comment (10Snowolf) [11:34:57] 03(mod) Amiri font for Arab lacks italics and bold causing bad rendering - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41940 +comment (10Khaled Hosny) [11:34:59] 03(mod) Do not mark edits as minor by default on new section or new page creation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27860 (10duplicatebug) [11:35:45] 03(mod) Legacy userrights on Wikivoyage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42006 +comment (10Snowolf) [11:39:44] 03(mod) Set NOTOC and NOEDITSECTION by default when parsing messages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28157 (10duplicatebug) [11:47:40] 03(mod) html of table.diff cells contains terminal white-space not in source text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28988 (10duplicatebug) [11:49:15] 03(mod) PHP notices in revisiondelete - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29059 (10duplicatebug) [11:49:17] 03(mod) Bugs affecting translatewiki.net (errors from MediaWiki master) (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39480 (10duplicatebug) [11:52:37] 03(mod) jquery.byteLimit.js should use the length of result instead of current value + typed character - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29467 (10duplicatebug) [11:53:05] New patchset: Siebrand; "Change path for Wikia MediaWiki extension." [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32893 [11:53:49] Change merged: Siebrand; [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32893 [11:54:09] 03(mod) Block status is missing on Special:ActiveUsers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29572 (10duplicatebug) [11:56:56] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "you are not escaping the input name variable" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMaps] (nischayn); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32882 [11:59:55] 03(NEW) language codes in the interwiki sql scripts must be updated, and it must be a part of wiki creation procedure - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42007 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikimediaMaintenance; (amir.aharoni) [12:00:12] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32847 [12:01:35] 03(mod) Add support for userrights, usergroups or autopromotion dependent on having a continous or periodic confirmed email address - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30018 (10duplicatebug) [12:04:44] New patchset: Lupo; "(bug 41146) Make mbstring optional in DatabaseOracle" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31141 [12:06:04] New patchset: Lupo; "(bug 41146) Make mbstring optional in DatabaseOracle" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31141 [12:07:09] New patchset: Lupo; "(bug 41146) Make mbstring optional in DatabaseOracle" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31141 [12:07:18] 03(mod) Amiri font for Arab lacks italics and bold causing bad rendering - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41940 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [12:08:21] 03(FIXED) Special property provides service / changing icon for service links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40644 +comment (10[[kgh]]) [12:09:36] 03(mod) Checkuser rights not being correctly applied on test.wikipedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41772 +comment (10Snowolf) [12:10:27] New patchset: Nischayn22; "Handle markers for both mapeditor and forminput." [mediawiki/extensions/Maps] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32880 [12:11:05] New patchset: Lupo; "(bug 41146) Make mbstring optional in DatabaseOracle" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31141 [12:13:06] 03(mod) Set second textarea when in conflict on EditPage to read-only - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31054 (10duplicatebug) [12:13:06] 03(mod) "Your Changes" box should be read-only - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28287 (10duplicatebug) [12:13:55] New patchset: Siebrand; "Fix file format." [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32895 [12:14:01] New patchset: Nischayn22; "RELEASE NOTES and examples." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticWatchlist] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32862 [12:14:05] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32895 [12:17:50] New review: Nischayn22; "I thought it got escaped already, what is the convention to escape it here?" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMaps] (nischayn) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32882 [12:22:23] 03(mod) Non-Wikipedia mobile domains use Wikipedia's SSL certificate - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34788 +comment (10Dan Wolff) [12:31:19] 03(mod) Upload Wizard crashes Safari when using long description texts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33607 normal->04CRIT (10Andre Klapper) [12:32:13] 03(mod) Image uploading social workflow and motivation - display result on context pages! - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33234 (10Andre Klapper) [12:33:35] 03(mod) drop image file sometimes creates no thumb and does not complete - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34667 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [12:34:27] 03(mod) Check uploaded images with Google image search to find copyright violations - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29793 summary (10Andre Klapper) [12:36:42] 03(mod) Amiri font for Arab lacks italics and bold causing bad rendering - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41940 +comment (10Khaled Hosny) [12:41:40] 03(mod) Alter wording about categories in upload wizard - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30173 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [12:44:30] New patchset: Siebrand; "Break up export for Wiki in 2x13 threads." [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32900 [12:44:59] New patchset: Siebrand; "Break up export for Wikia in 2x13 threads." [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32900 [12:45:08] Change merged: Siebrand; [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32900 [12:45:42] 03(mod) Category suggestions font is too small - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29469 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [12:47:03] 03(mod) Sometimes, Learn > Upload .. headings are incorrectly centered - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37109 (10Andre Klapper) [12:48:41] New patchset: Siebrand; "PythonFFS has stabilized. Thanks, Niklas!" [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32901 [12:48:49] Change merged: Siebrand; [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32901 [12:49:09] 03(mod) Tooltips should appear on hover, fade away on mouseout (like with AFT) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28322 summary; +comment (10Andre Klapper) [12:49:55] 03(mod) tooltips in "Describe" step do not close - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34337 summary; +comment (10Andre Klapper) [12:54:28] 03(mod) Upload button is only partially clickable when wgHtml5 == false - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38471 summary (10Andre Klapper) [12:54:46] 03(mod) blank title throws error: "mw.Title: Could not parse title ".jpg"" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39642 summary (10Andre Klapper) [12:55:20] 03(mod) Help desk link uses user-interface language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30049 +i18n (10Andre Klapper) [12:58:32] New patchset: Raimond Spekking; "Some consistency tweaks in preparation for translation" [mediawiki/extensions/MapSources] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31744 [13:03:23] 03(mod) MediaWiki thinks a public domain license is unacceptable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40920 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [13:04:35] 03(mod) Allow providing image information (categories/description) while still uploading - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37462 summary (10Andre Klapper) [13:04:58] 03(mod) Block log snippet (extract) is wrong at Special:Contributions when &dir=prev is specified - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32859 (10duplicatebug) [13:05:08] 03(mod) Upload Wizard doesn't include the timezone when adding adate - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40727 normal->15enhancement (10Andre Klapper) [13:05:40] 03(mod) Preview thumbnails show images in wrong orientation (rotation) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41964 normal->minor (10Andre Klapper) [13:08:24] 03(mod) Copy metadata copies even if nothing was selected to copy - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41999 normal->minor; summary; +comment (10Andre Klapper) [13:09:53] 03(mod) Selecting many/multiple (>7?) files at once: Some are missing in the batch - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39902 normal->major; summary; +comment (10Andre Klapper) [13:10:02] 14(DUP) Random selection of files if more than 10 are selected for multiple upload - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40114 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [13:10:03] 03(mod) Selecting many/multiple (>7?) files at once: Some are missing in the batch - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39902 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [13:10:45] 03(mod) Flickr upload stuck in "Uploading..." - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39948 (10Andre Klapper) [13:17:01] New patchset: Siebrand; "Fix bug and add some info to output" [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32903 [13:17:47] Change merged: Siebrand; [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32903 [13:23:43] 03(mod) Write tests for AutoLoader - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41833 (10duplicatebug) [13:25:23] 03(mod) Do not mark edits as minor by default on new section or new page creation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27860 (10Nemo) [13:25:57] 03(mod) Text loss on edit page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41352 (10duplicatebug) [13:28:51] 03(mod) Galician date and time localization - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41295 (10duplicatebug) [13:29:30] 03(mod) ORMRow should release db connections after use. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41796 (10duplicatebug) [13:30:00] 03(mod) Enable Special:Import for User:Arjunaraoc - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41880 +comment (10Krenair) [13:30:02] 03(mod) Bad content model: expected javascript but got wikitext. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41658 (10duplicatebug) [13:30:56] 03(NEW) Revert bug 27860 or add configuration variable to restore "Mark all edits minor by default" preference behaviour - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42008 major; MediaWiki: Page editing; (federicoleva) [13:30:57] 03(mod) Do not mark edits as minor by default on new section or new page creation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27860 (10Nemo) [13:33:09] 03(mod) Ensure consistent position of the "Watch this page" checkbox - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31567 (10Nemo) [13:33:10] 03(mod) Wikisource related bugs and enhancements (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35925 (10Nemo) [13:33:13] 03(mod) Revert bug 27860 or add configuration variable to restore "Mark all edits minor by default" preference behaviour - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42008 (10Nemo) [13:33:18] 03(mod) Enable Special:Import for User:Arjunaraoc - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41880 +comment (10Arjuna Rao Chavala) [13:34:04] 03(mod) Revert bug 27860 or add configuration variable to restore "Mark all edits minor by default" preference behaviour - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42008 +easy (10Nemo) [13:36:30] 03(mod) Echo doesn't work on SQLite - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41987 (10Andre Klapper) [13:36:32] 03(mod) SQLite support (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/20257 (10Andre Klapper) [13:38:38] 03(UNCONFIRMED) Checkuser rights not being correctly applied on test.wikipedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41772 +testme; +comment (10Nemo) [13:42:51] 03(mod) Random selection of files if more than 10 are selected for multiple upload - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40114 +comment (10Nemo) [13:48:52] 03(NEW) Special:TimedMediaHandler is blank - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42009 trivial; MediaWiki extensions: TimedMediaHandler; (erik) [13:51:15] 03(mod) Legacy userrights on Wikivoyage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42006 +comment (10Krenair) [13:51:26] 03(mod) Legacy userrights on Wikivoyage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42006 +shell; +comment (10Nemo) [13:57:43] 03(mod) Special:TimedMediaHandler is blank - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42009 +comment (10Krenair) [13:59:33] 03(mod) Special:TimedMediaHandler is blank - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42009 +comment (10Erik Moeller) [14:08:52] aNdraw_: Hi. [14:08:54] Erp. [14:09:08] Not the and__ I need. [14:09:14] andre__: Hi. [14:09:36] Twelve hours idle, I'll just use the mailing list. [14:10:09] Brooke, heja [14:14:17] 03(mod) Legacy userrights on Wikivoyage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42006 +comment (10Snowolf) [14:16:31] andre__: Morning. :-) [14:18:19] 03(NEW) Unable to edit wikisets - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42010 blocker; MediaWiki extensions: CentralAuth; (maurelio) [14:18:22] 03(mod) Steward, global sysop and SWMT tasks bugs (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41492 (10Marco Aurelio) [14:19:52] 03(WONTFIX) Connect global locks with wikisets - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29811 +comment (10Marco Aurelio) [14:22:52] andre__: Posted to wikitech-l just now. [14:22:59] andre__: I saw you close some old bugs as wontfix. [14:23:38] 03(mod) Unable to edit wikisets - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42010 -performance ; +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [14:23:43] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6871 [14:24:13] 03(mod) Preload not working for MediaWiki namespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/20836 (10mybugs.mail) [14:24:16] 03(mod) Exit page from https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:GlobalBlock - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36834 +easy; +comment (10Hydra) [14:24:24] Oh, I have a history with that bug. [14:24:25] 03(mod) Unable to edit wikisets - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42010 04BLOCKER->major (10Nemo) [14:24:25] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6871#c4 [14:24:39] Brooke, yes, WONTFIX. [14:24:53] I don't care about fixing 5year old database hiccups. [14:24:53] andre__: I think this is a murky area. [14:25:01] I care about fixing the underlying code problem though :) [14:25:13] The database's integerity is somewhat important. [14:25:17] integrity, also. [14:25:33] Anyway, I don't really care about really old edits either. [14:25:34] well, basically there's two aspects: 1) Fix the issue in the code. 2) Fix the occurrence in the database where things went wrong because of the issue in the code [14:25:35] 03(mod) Unable to edit wikisets - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42010 (10Nemo) [14:25:42] Sure. [14:25:49] But (2) is often as important as (1). [14:26:06] Brooke, and I agree with you in 6871#c4 - age itself isn't an issue per se :) [14:26:20] And it's not clear to me under which cases (2) becomes relevant. [14:26:20] 03(FIXED) Legacy userrights on Wikivoyage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42006 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [14:27:14] New patchset: Alex Monk; "(bug 42009) Show an error on Special:TimedMediaHandler when the user doesn't have permission to see anything" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32906 [14:27:39] 03(mod) Local images missing on new en.wikivoyage.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41985 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [14:27:46] 03(mod) Special:TimedMediaHandler is blank - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42009 +comment (10Krenair) [14:27:56] Brooke: probably recent issues. Until they have been ignored for so long that they become non-recent anymore ;-/ [14:28:13] 03(FIXED) search-redirect.php on www.wikipedia.org does not recognise Wikivoyage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42003 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [14:28:25] If it's wrong in 2005, I'm not sure why seven years makes it any less wrong now. [14:28:55] Notice: Did not find alias for special page 'TimedMediaHandler'. Perhaps no aliases are defined for it? [Called from SpecialPageFactory::getLocalNameFor in /var/www/MediaWiki/Git/core/includes/SpecialPageFactory.php at line 576] in /var/www/MediaWiki/Git/core/includes/debug/Debug.php on line 283 [14:29:26] Brooke: because people in 2005 looked up recent changes more often than people in 2012 looking up changes from seven years ago, IMO [14:29:51] Krenair: Needs an alias file :/ [14:29:55] So you think it's a matter of visibility? [14:30:06] It's still a bug. That was my point. [14:30:10] Looks like I did that before with Echo: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/29722/ [14:30:20] It's no less valid of a bug just because it's been ignored. [14:30:21] Surely. [14:30:29] Brooke, kind of, yeah - people will "see" the problem less often. And it IS still a bug, I agree, but I wouldn't fix it. [14:30:39] New patchset: Reedy; "Update WikimediaIncubator to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf3) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32907 [14:30:55] Annoyingly I have to patch TMH and MwEmbedSupport to get it to work on my machine, with my extensions dir being at the same level as core [14:31:02] andre__: You might not fix the bug, but we don't close bugs based on that, usually. [14:31:07] Brooke, it's not about having been ignored (true), but about users that nowadays less often dive into changes from 2005. [14:32:36] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf3) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32907 [14:32:38] Brooke, hmm, I see, behavior thta I'm not aware of because I'm new. Thanks for telling me :) [14:32:42] Brooke, my take is: If we don't manage to say "no, we won't fix this" to some requests, I don't see the bugtracker scale in the long run. [14:33:18] andre__: Why's that? [14:33:23] and my take on this specific database problem from seven years ago is that nobody should spend time on fixing it, because we've got more important problems [14:33:25] You're worried about running out of integers? [14:33:31] Brooke, hehe [14:33:47] There's a dual purpose to Bugzilla. [14:33:56] You work for the Wikimedia Foundation. And you're largely triaging its bugs. [14:34:14] But there's also its use as a tracking system for the Wikimedia community's bugs. [14:34:24] Brooke: no, but I've seen enough failed projects with large amounts of open rotting old tickets, and search results becoming useless because of all the old cruft popping up, because nobody is brave enough to say "no, we won't care about this or that ticket, sorry" [14:34:30] For example, every bug affecting Wiktioanry or Wikinews or whatever else is a Wikimedia community bug. [14:34:36] Wiktionary [14:35:04] andre__: The opposite approach is probably more hostile. [14:35:15] "We care about your issue, waste your time filing it here so that it can sit for five years." [14:35:17] Or... [14:35:18] sure, if somebody from the community provides a patch for a WONTFIX report or candidate, that's awesome. Let's reopen the ticket and get it in, if it fits with the design and vision of the project's maintainer [14:35:28] "We care about your issue, file it here so we can promptly mark it wontfix." [14:35:51] Oh. There's confusion about the meaning of "wontfix" then. [14:36:07] To most users of this Bugzilla instance, it means "we won't ever fix this bug ever, so stop asking." [14:36:19] Including not accepting patches. [14:36:25] Yeah, I don't like wasting people's time (Let them report and then don't care), or creating wrong expectations ("We might fix your bug at some point in the future once we've reached unlimited manpower"). IMO bug triaging has to happen aggressively (=fast) if possible. [14:36:33] That's kind of a longstanding understanding of wontfix. [14:36:42] yeah, maybe my WONTFIX interpretation is broader, true [14:37:01] Well, it'll cause conflict. [14:37:03] it's more like "We really won't care about this" instead of "I am against fixing this" [14:37:22] time to clarify then and agree on a definition :) [14:37:23] Who's we? [14:37:29] This is where you get confused. [14:37:34] About Bugzilla's dual purpose. [14:37:45] As the bug tracker for the Wikimedia community, the "we" is the people filing the bugs. [14:38:02] Someone obviously noticed and cared enough to file a bug. [14:38:05] Yeah, it's not clear. WMF folks? Triagers? Community folks? It's never really clear, and I doubt that one can draw a clear line [14:38:05] New patchset: Alex Monk; "Create special page aliases file" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32908 [14:38:10] 03(mod) Unable to edit some wikisets - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42010 summary; +comment (10Marco Aurelio) [14:38:15] So to say "we don't really care" isn't fair. Someone presumably cares. [14:38:51] so basically you are looking for a POSTPONED INDEFINITELY [14:38:58] But if the person that cares to report cannot fix it or provide a patch, this doesn't help if a maintainer/dev considers it lower than lowest priority (wontfix) [14:39:30] A bad edit timestamp fix is a single line of MySQL in the console. [14:39:34] and I bet you won't find anybody fixing 7yr old database inconsistencies. Which makes it a de-facto WONTFIX. [14:39:48] it might be trivial to fix, sure. [14:40:02] Right. You could easily submit a "patch". But that isn't the bottleneck. [14:40:09] 03(mod) jquery.byteLimit rewrite sometimes removes the last character instead of the most recently added, even if it could know this - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40850 (10mybugs.mail) [14:40:30] Brooke: patch review totally IS a bottleneck, yes (as far as I can tell after 5 weeks) [14:40:44] This isn't really patch review. [14:40:59] When you're dealing with the production wikis, the bottleneck is shell user time. [14:41:06] correct. [14:41:21] Anyway, my point is that if I notice a bad edit timestamp, I can easily submit a "patch". [14:41:29] It might not fix the underlying issue or adjacent issues. [14:42:15] leucosticte: I don't think so. [14:42:27] These bugs aren't postponed. Just ignored. [14:42:36] Hmm. [14:42:36] and if it's a recent issue, somebody might be able to investigate, or ask involved people that can still remember what they did. If it's an old ticket people don't remember what happened, and it's very unlikely that somebody cares. Hence I wrote "defacto WONTFIX" earlier [14:42:47] yes, there will always be issues that get ignored and fall off the plate [14:43:15] it's a problem of motivation and manpower. We won't fix that by keeping bug tickets open :) [14:43:15] The database doesn't generally fix itself. If there's corruption or an inconsistency, it can be investigated later. [14:43:24] 03(mod) Unable to edit some wikisets - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42010 +comment (10Marco Aurelio) [14:43:49] It's rather demotivating to close valid bugs as wontfix. [14:44:50] demotivating to who? [14:45:10] New patchset: Reedy; "Attmepted fix for Bug 42010 - Unable to edit wikisets" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralAuth] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32909 [14:45:13] The person who filed the bug. [14:45:19] The people watching the bug tracker. [14:45:22] Yes, it's not great. But as long as WM hasn't gained unlimited manpower I will close valid requests as WONTFIX. [14:45:28] Brooke: it's sort of a term of art. it means, killed under further notice. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postpone_indefinitely [14:45:50] because letting people hope that somebody will come and care in the future, while it's extremely unlikely, is even more unfair to me. [14:46:04] leucosticte: Hmm, interesting. [14:46:13] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions/CentralAuth] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32909 [14:46:26] andre__: It also has the possibility to discourage other bug reports. [14:46:37] New patchset: Reedy; "Update CentralAuth to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf3) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32910 [14:46:37] Which is a pretty real concern. [14:46:57] Brooke, any disagreement or decisions that you don't agree with might make you turn your back on a project, sure. [14:47:01] that happens in general. [14:47:01] Bug trackers that are hostile to bug filers end up losing valid bugs because people can't be bothered to report the issue. [14:47:07] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf3) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32910 [14:47:15] We're not hostile to bug filers. [14:47:22] Not necessarily turn your back on the project. [14:47:23] We're rather honest by saying "this won't get fixed, sorry" [14:47:25] Just not report bugs. [14:47:37] it's not nice, but that's reality. [14:47:40] andre__: And when their user account gets split in two during a user rename? [14:47:49] Do they know what we're going to say? [14:47:55] did I close that as WONTFIX too? :P [14:48:04] How much do we actually care about database integrity? [14:48:13] That was my mailing list question. :P [14:48:32] I have difficulty distinguishing the grey. [14:48:34] not too much when integrity got broken 7 years ago, I'd say. More if it happened recently. [14:48:46] 03(mod) Unable to edit some wikisets - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42010 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [14:48:48] But I cannot really tell, haven't followed WM for too long, obviously. [14:49:02] andre__: But in some ways you punish the bug filer for the neglect of others. [14:49:18] New review: Reedy; "Seemingly caused bug 42010" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralAuth] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/21542 [14:49:30] Hypothetical: [14:49:31] Database corruption happens on March 4, 2005; bug filer notices and files at March 10, 2005. [14:49:41] Nothing happens for seven years, it's now 2012. [14:49:53] Brooke, if you want to call it like that: Yes, happens. That's the trade off between not disappointing people vs communicating realistic expectations. [14:50:12] and the seven years of ignoring weren't punishing? ;) [14:50:29] basically it's a small number of bugs that are subject to this shell user bottleneck, right? most of the others can be fixed by any developer with the skill, time and inclination. so it would inappropriate to WONTFIX those unless it would be undesirable for even a volunteer to fix it. therefore, these WONTFIXes won't fix (completely) the problem of there being many open bugs. [14:50:30] Right. But in some ways you're suggesting that lapsed time is a factor to consider. [14:51:19] And I'm saying that often isn't fair to the person who filed a legitimate bug. What are they supposed to do? File more bugs to try to get more attention? All they can do is wait. And it ends up hurting them... [14:51:40] leucosticte: It kind of depends what the bug is. There are various types of database integrity issues. [14:51:45] leucosticte: Let me get you a link... [14:52:00] leucosticte: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2012-November/064356.html [14:52:13] Sometime it's a matter of running a maintenance script. [14:52:25] Sometimes it's a matter of writing and running a maintenance script. [14:52:35] Sometimes it's a matter of direct DB manipulation. [14:52:42] Or you could delegate powers to others besides shell users. [14:52:51] Which is essentially what tools such as CheckUser have done. [14:52:58] With on-wiki logging, user auth, etc. [14:53:11] Brooke, yes, we hurt people. Everyday by making decisions. I am aware of it, I don't like it, but I consider it a tradeoff. [14:53:18] Stewards could have the power to fix edit timestamps, for example. [14:53:22] It's not unfathomable, at least. [14:53:48] Brooke, find somebody to fix the issue and then reopen the report and assign it to that person. You're welcome to do so, really :) [14:54:36] Hmm. [14:56:49] it sounds like a good idea -- write an API extension to allow changing timestamps, grant access to a bot account, get the stewardbot code approved, run the bot (logging all changes so that they're reversible). [14:57:33] actually, i was going to write such an extension for my own purposes anyway [14:58:34] You'd want more than edit timestamp. [14:58:40] 03(NEW) "document.write() call ignored from an asynchronically loaded external script" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42011 major; MediaWiki: ResourceLoader; (matma.rex) [14:58:47] You'd presumably also want to be able to modify author as well. [14:58:53] But then you hit all kinds of weird cases. [14:58:58] Brooke: so to summarize: If I compare communicating expectations ("this won't get fixed because nobody cares" in this case, not "I am against fixing this") and disappointing people, that's more important to me than not communicating anything and disappointing reporters too by nothing happening. Both cases hurt reporters and aren't cool. [14:59:00] Like people wanting to correct typos in their edit summaries. [14:59:05] Or un-paste passwords. [14:59:06] Or whatever. [14:59:48] andre__: All right. You should write a Philosophy page on mediawiki.org. :-) [14:59:54] Reedy, It seems it works now. [14:59:57] (wikisets) [15:00:03] Aha [15:00:05] Thanks [15:00:09] I'll close it [15:00:11] isn't the closing of this bug and telling us to open another one after the issues with the "fix" were raised over a year ago a bit too much process? https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27860 [15:00:23] http://aa.bb.beta.wmflabs.org/ [15:00:25] Pretty. [15:00:32] 03(FIXED) Unable to edit some wikisets - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42010 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [15:00:34] Brooke: hehe, hopefully I don't end up like that. But this is interesting stuff to discuss, would love to have a beer on that :) [15:01:10] what about personal responsibility? we don't owe the bug reporter anything. if he put in time writing a bug report, and didn't get an answer, or got an answer he didn't like, it's not as though we broke any guarantee we've made to bug reporters. [15:01:33] he chose to file a bug, so he reaps the consequence of wasted time if that's what it was [15:01:48] leucosticte: are you replying to me? [15:02:25] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32908 [15:02:30] BewareofDoug: no, just to the ongoing convo about bug reporters being unhappy no matter what we do [15:02:39] OH, ok [15:02:48] I walked in in the middle of that [15:03:59] Looks like https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/21542/ caused this wikisets problem [15:04:04] 03(mod) Update ancient /docroot/default/index.html - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38013 +comment (10MZMcBride) [15:04:33] New patchset: Reedy; "Remove duplicate array keys/messages from en" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32911 [15:06:28] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32911 [15:06:57] Reedy, isn't that already done by SpecialPage::displayRestrictionError? [15:07:01] function displayRestrictionError() { [15:07:01] throw new PermissionsError( $this->mRestriction ); [15:07:35] Oh I see what you mean, we should call that function, it's not being called at the moment.. huh [15:07:38] 03(mod) UI issue in the 'Your name' and 'Password' fields in the 'Name' page - IE8 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/26689 +comment (10Chad H.) [15:08:48] 03(NEW) abusefilter-log-detail should not be restricted to sysops per default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42012 normal; Wikimedia: Site configuration; (mfwarburg) [15:09:11] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32713 [15:09:17] New patchset: Alex Monk; "(bug 42009) Show an error on Special:TimedMediaHandler when the user doesn't have permission to see anything" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32906 [15:09:40] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32906 [15:10:11] New patchset: Reedy; "Update TimedMediaHandler to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf3) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32912 [15:10:31] 03(FIXED) Special:TimedMediaHandler is blank - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42009 +comment (10Krenair) [15:10:33] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf3) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32912 [15:17:10] 03(mod) ResourceLoader should support lang=qqx parameter - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31961 +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [15:18:40] 03(mod) Unable to log in to my English Wikivoyage account after migration - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42005 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [15:18:42] 03(mod) Unable to edit some wikisets - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42010 +comment (10Marco Aurelio) [15:21:50] 03(FIXED) ResourceLoader should support lang=qqx parameter - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31961 +comment (10Nemo) [15:22:56] 03(mod) Add private prefixes for CSS3 properties automatically in CSS processing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27933 +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [15:28:59] 03(NEW) 'class' as property name - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42013 major; MediaWiki extensions: UniversalLanguageSelector; (fomafix) [15:37:00] 03(mod) abusefilter-log-detail should not be restricted to sysops per default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42012 +shellpolicy; +comment (10Nemo) [15:41:08] 03(NEW) wrong wgcontentlanguage for subdomain targets - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42014 minor; Wikimedia: Wikidata; (bugreporter) [15:41:32] 03(mod) wrong wgcontentlanguage for subdomain targets - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42014 (10merl) [15:45:59] New patchset: Huji; "Work In Progress: bug 24292" [mediawiki/extensions/LiquidThreads] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32913 [15:49:20] New patchset: Huji; "Work In Progress: bug 24292" [mediawiki/extensions/LiquidThreads] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32914 [15:51:19] have there been reports of vector tabs being dislocated when undeleting pages? [15:51:34] 03(mod) New Messages count is not updated after marking all threads as read - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24292 +comment (10Huji) [15:53:35] Change abandoned: Huji; "I64682c54 gerrit 32914 is the current version of it" [mediawiki/extensions/LiquidThreads] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32913 [15:54:23] 03(mod) Component for "shell" non-configuration site requests - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39644 +comment (10Chad H.) [15:54:49] 03(mod) Username of all whitespaces in German Wikipedia dump file - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/4312 +comment (10Tyler Riddle) [15:55:23] 03(mod) Database table cleanup (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/16660 +comment (10Nemo) [15:55:31] which seems to affect monobook too... [15:59:27] 03(NEW) Code column to small for some codes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42015 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; (bugreporter) [16:15:17] New patchset: Raimond Spekking; "[SemanticMediaWiki] Update optional message keys" [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32915 [16:15:43] Change merged: Raimond Spekking; [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32915 [16:16:26] 03(NEW) Tabs dislocated on Special:Undelete - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42016 normal; MediaWiki: Page deletion; (Siddhartha.Ghai) [16:17:19] 03(mod) Tabs dislocated on Special:Undelete - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42016 (10Siddhartha Ghai) [16:17:20] 03(mod) Hindi Wikiprojects (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41348 (10Siddhartha Ghai) [16:17:36] 03(FIXED) result format rss / not working as expected (1.8 beta 1) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40748 +comment (10[[kgh]]) [16:24:53] 03(FIXED) Component for "shell" non-configuration site requests - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39644 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [16:34:14] !source [16:34:14] There are multiple keys, refine your input: sourcecode, sourceforge, [16:34:19] !sourcecode [16:34:19] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?p=mediawiki/core.git;a=tree [16:40:06] 03(NEW) Diffs not working - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42017 normal; MediaWiki extensions: TimedMediaHandler; (mdoege) [16:42:23] 03(NEW) Find common range box doesn't work with IPs starting with 2. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42018 normal; MediaWiki extensions: CheckUser; (huji.huji) [16:43:38] 03(NEW) Find common range box must always flow left-to-right - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42019 enhancement; MediaWiki extensions: CheckUser; (huji.huji) [16:44:07] 03(mod) Diffs not working - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42017 +comment (10Krenair) [16:49:50] New patchset: Alex Monk; "Add action-transcode-status message, shown when the user can't view Special:TimedMediaHandler" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32917 [16:50:07] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "Rename CreateEntity and CreateItem to NewEntity and NewItem" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32918 [16:53:18] is there a way to override or customize the getEditToolbar function in EditPage class? [16:53:43] 03(NEW) Text shadow for subtitles and perhaps a choice of color - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42020 enhancement; MediaWiki extensions: TimedMediaHandler; (mdoege) [16:53:48] New patchset: Raimond Spekking; "[TimedMediaHandler] Register new alias file" [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32919 [16:54:03] Change merged: Raimond Spekking; [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32919 [16:54:34] New patchset: Huji; "(bug 42019) Find common range box must always flow left-to-right" [mediawiki/extensions/CheckUser] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32920 [16:55:07] New review: John Erling Blad; "I have no idea what this is" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32918 [16:56:05] 03(mod) abusefilter-log-detail should not be restricted to sysops per default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42012 +comment (10MF-Warburg) [16:56:17] 03(ASSIGNED) Find common range box must always flow left-to-right - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42019 +patch-in-gerrit; +comment (10Huji) [17:02:48] 03(mod) Search index for Wikivoyage wikis needs to be generated - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41959 +comment (10Daniel Zahn) [17:06:21] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "Rename CreateEntity and CreateItem to NewEntity and NewItem" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32921 [17:07:21] New review: John Erling Blad; "I have no idea what this is" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32921 [17:07:58] Change abandoned: John Erling Blad; "The shit ended up in master" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32918 [17:08:01] 03(mod) abusefilter-log-detail should not be restricted to sysops per default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42012 +comment (10Nemo) [17:08:04] New patchset: Huji; "(bug 42018) Find common range box doesn't work with IPs starting with 2." [mediawiki/extensions/CheckUser] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32922 [17:09:25] 03(ASSIGNED) Find common range box doesn't work with IPs starting with 2. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42018 +patch-in-gerrit; +comment (10Huji) [17:12:15] New review: Aude; "See https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41998 and there are patches in gerrit for that." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32921 [17:15:10] Hi. How can I change that what replaces "TOOLBOX" or "SEARCH" in the sidebar of my wiki? Take a look: http://wiki.de.grepolis.com/wiki/MediaWiki:Sidebar. [17:16:31] Gaius: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Interface/Sidebar [17:20:12] tale, I cannot find any help in this article. [17:20:43] "By default, the sidebar consists of elements in this order: navigation, search, toolbox, languages." --- But how can I change these elements? [17:21:03] How can I change what "TOOLBOX" stands for? [17:27:59] 03(mod) Search index for Wikivoyage wikis needs to be generated - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41959 +comment (10Daniel Zahn) [17:29:26] 03(mod) Search index for Wikivoyage wikis needs to be generated - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41959 +comment (10Erik Moeller) [17:32:41] 03(mod) I would like an email list created for Wiki Loves Public Art. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41783 +comment (10Thehelpfulone) [17:34:41] 03(FIXED) Unable to log in to my English Wikivoyage account after migration - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42005 +comment (10Snowolf) [17:38:31] 03(mod) New edit warning above the editing window should be dismissible - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40692 +comment (10Erik Moeller) [17:43:03] Gaius: what are you actually trying to do? [17:43:26] I try to change my sidebar. [17:43:54] ..that's even more vague and unhelpful than what you said before [17:43:55] I want to determine what comes out when I write "TOOLBOX" in the code. [17:44:10] The toolbox [17:44:28] But how can I change what "The toolbox" is? [17:44:58] You can't hange what it is. It's built-in to the software. [17:46:31] There is no way? [17:46:57] No, and I don't get why you would want to. [17:47:07] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticWatchlist] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32862 [17:47:24] I think that the "TOOLBOX" is not the optimum for my wiki. [17:48:10] It's a key part of the software. [17:53:51] 14(DUP) Code column to small for some codes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42015 +comment (10Lydia Pintscher) [17:53:53] 03(mod) Language code column is too narrow - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41587 +comment (10Lydia Pintscher) [17:57:25] 03(mod) User Preferences do not allow me to go to any other tab in IE9 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41792 +comment (10Paine Ellsworth) [17:59:19] Vulpix you out there ? [18:00:53] Anyone know off the top of their head what hash is used for deleted file names? [18:02:16] 03(NEW) Function: GlobalUsage::insertLinks Error: 1205 Lock wait timeout exceeded; try restarting transaction (10.0.6.41) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42021 normal; MediaWiki: Database; (federicoleva) [18:02:18] 03(mod) 1205: Lock wait timeout exceeded; try restarting transaction (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28499 (10Nemo) [18:02:54] 03(mod) Function: GlobalUsage::insertLinks Error: 1205 Lock wait timeout exceeded; try restarting transaction (10.0.6.41) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42021 (10Nemo) [18:03:56] 03(mod) abusefilter-log-detail should not be restricted to sysops per default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42012 +comment (10MF-Warburg) [18:16:50] 03(NEW) File upload to en.wikivoyage.org resulted in broken image - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42022 normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (ryan.holliday) [18:17:58] 03(NEW) add more detailed output for add-sitelink-failed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42023 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; (bugreporter) [18:18:41] 03(mod) File upload to en.wikivoyage.org resulted in broken image - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42022 +comment (10Ryan Holliday) [18:18:42] 03(mod) Wikivoyage migration (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41184 (10Ryan Holliday) [18:20:45] <^demon> Isarra: All file hashes are sha1. [18:21:00] <^demon> (And revision hashes too) [18:21:02] 03(mod) File upload to en.wikivoyage.org resulted in broken image - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42022 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [18:21:28] 03(mod) Wikivoyage: interwiki links require a cleanup/automatic replacement - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41986 +comment (10Carl Austin Bennett) [18:23:32] Thank you, ^demon [18:23:34] . [18:23:44] <^demon> You're welcome. [18:29:53] 03(mod) 'class' as property name - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42013 (10Ershad K) [18:31:32] New patchset: Ershad Kunnakkadan; "Fixed the bug 42013 - 'class' as property name" [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32923 [18:33:22] 03(NEW) No longer able to move subpages if moving to a different namespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42024 normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (federicoleva) [18:33:46] 03(mod) No longer able to move subpages if moving to a different namespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42024 normal->major (10Nemo) [18:39:16] 03(NEW) When moving all subpages of a page, translatable page is moved but its translation pages are not - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42025 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Translate; (federicoleva) [18:39:34] 03(mod) When moving all subpages of a normal page, translatable page is moved but its translation pages are not - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42025 summary (10Nemo) [18:41:15] 03(mod) Timeout when trying to move a translatable page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41138 +comment (10Nemo) [18:45:10] how can i create a .js file in the MediaWiki: namespace on en? something like: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Wikilove.js [18:45:14] do i need to ask an admin / sysop? [18:45:55] <^demon> ori-l: Yes, it requires sysop access. [18:46:05] <^demon> Specifically, the 'editinterface' permission. [18:46:25] do you know what the protocol for asking is? [18:46:42] <^demon> On the talkpage, use the {{editprotected}} template. [18:47:50] ^demon: nifty! thanks [18:49:50] <^demon> You're welcome. [18:51:47] 03(mod) File upload to en.wikivoyage.org resulted in broken image - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42022 +comment (10Ryan Holliday) [18:51:50] 03(mod) When moving all subpages of a normal page, translatable page is moved but its translation pages are not - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42025 +comment (10Nemo) [18:58:59] New patchset: Ershad Kunnakkadan; "Fixed the bug 42013 - 'class' as property name" [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32923 [18:59:02] 03(mod) Expose MessageGroups::getGroupSructure() via WebAPI - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42000 +comment (10Niklas Laxström) [19:00:55] follow-up question: can the permissions for a MediaWiki:foo.js article be set such that a specific (non-sysop) user group can edit it? [19:03:19] ori-l: yes, but that's not practiced normally w/Wikimedia communities [19:03:44] I think I've seen some smaller wikis discussing this, not sure if it was introduced [19:04:17] from my experience {{editprotected}} works pretty well [19:04:33] i'm having a srsly hard time getting url rewriting to work with apache [19:04:39] ori-l: they would need the "editinterface" userright then [19:04:45] anyone have a good grasp on how to beat this into submission? [19:04:55] legoktm / saper: hmmm. [19:05:09] i currently don't even have staff rights, and i kinda like it that way. [19:06:09] if we're talking about wmf wiki's just ask for the globaleditinterface right [19:07:24] where / from whom? [19:07:42] i need a fake nick for asking clueless questions on irc :) [19:09:31] a steward on meta [19:09:47] [[m:SRGP]] [19:09:56] legoktm: thanks! [19:11:12] can somebody please fix https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/31135/ ? it's not merged due to missing dependency, and gerrit takes pleasure in reminding me about it via e-mail every hour [19:11:34] MatmaRex: ok, i'll take a look [19:11:51] <^demon> To fix it, you submit the parent. [19:11:52] the changeset itself is approved [19:11:56] yes, but [19:12:04] whyyy does gerrit mail me about this all the time [19:12:09] i think i got some 20 mails already [19:12:12] one after another [19:12:17] that it cant be merged [19:12:22] <^demon> It's mailing you because of the comment. [19:12:22] well no shit it can't be merged [19:12:24] i know already [19:12:25] D: [19:12:34] i think it tries again after every commit [19:12:40] or something like that [19:12:58] ori-l: that would be incredibly dumb. [19:13:04] ori-l: which means it's possible :/ [19:13:45] <^demon> Gerrit tries to submit any open changes that are approved on each commit, yes. [19:13:49] lol [19:13:57] 03(mod) Adjust default timezones on Wikivoyage wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41992 +comment (10Dereckson) [19:13:57] <^demon> The idea behind the behavior is sound, but the execution is flawed. [19:13:59] i honestly have no other comments [19:14:00] just... lol. [19:14:28] maybe somebody could be nice and merge the dependency? it has some reviews already, and is straightforward [19:14:33] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/27734/4 [19:15:42] <^demon> MatmaRex: I'm willing to merge, but doesn't your last comment make it sound like there still needs to be a fix? [19:15:47] <^demon> The qbfind vs. search? [19:16:05] hm? [19:16:07] ah, no [19:16:10] that is fixed in my commit [19:16:14] <^demon> Ahhh, I see it now. [19:16:15] <^demon> nvm [19:16:16] the one that gerrit tries to merge [19:16:16] <^demon> Merging. [19:16:23] thanks [19:16:24] :) [19:16:40] Change merged: TheDJ; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31135 [19:16:40] Change merged: Demon; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27734 [19:16:52] magic. thanks [19:32:12] 03(mod) Wikivoyage: interwiki links require a cleanup/automatic replacement - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41986 +comment (10Nemo) [19:33:32] 03(mod) Adjust default timezones on Wikivoyage wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41992 +comment (10Nemo) [19:34:39] 03(mod) File upload to en.wikivoyage.org resulted in broken image - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42022 +comment (10Nemo) [19:40:30] 03(mod) Please set the Kalmyk Wikipedia logo - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41958 +comment (10Михаил) [19:45:32] 03(mod) Warn when filename on shared repo clashes with a local repo file - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/23830 +comment (10Bryan Tong Minh) [19:53:53] New patchset: Matmarex; "(bug 457) use semantic headings for the navigation menu" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30361 [19:56:00] New review: Matmarex; "PS7: rebased on current master, fixing merge conflicts due to recent changes to the skins." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30361 [20:03:13] 03(mod) Adjust default timezones on Wikivoyage wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41992 -shell +shellpolicy; +comment (10Dereckson) [20:08:24] legoktm: how does this read? https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Steward_requests/Global_permissions#Global_editinterface_for_Ori.livneh [20:09:42] Makes sense to me, but I don't think you explicitly said what you need the right for [20:10:50] legoktm: oh, i thought it was obvious -- to create & edit JS articles in the MediaWiki: namespace of wikis we deploy experiments to [20:11:03] do you think i ought to make that more explicit? [20:11:39] Probably. I was able to figure that out since I know what you do, but I think its best if its explicitly stated [20:11:52] good advice. i'll add it. [20:11:58] thanks! [20:13:44] New patchset: Yaron Koren; "Added missing semicolon" [mediawiki/extensions/DataTransfer] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32928 [20:14:34] Change merged: Yaron Koren; [mediawiki/extensions/DataTransfer] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32928 [20:14:58] New patchset: Aude; "backwards compatibility to handle client entities with numeric ids" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32929 [20:15:18] Change merged: IAlex; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32762 [20:17:38] 03(NEW) Add option to show new pages only in Special:Contributions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42026 enhancement; MediaWiki: Special pages; (hex) [20:18:48] Change merged: IAlex; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32758 [20:23:43] Change merged: IAlex; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32737 [20:28:12] New patchset: Markus Kroetzsch; "Support variable SQL backends in SPARQL Store" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32930 [20:30:04] New patchset: Markus Kroetzsch; "Support variable SQL backends in SPARQL Store" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32930 [20:31:38] 03(mod) wrong wgcontentlanguage for subdomain targets - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42014 +comment (10Daniel Kinzler) [20:32:16] 03(mod) wrong wgcontentlanguage for subdomain targets - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42014 +need-volunteer (10Daniel Kinzler) [20:33:16] New patchset: Markus Kroetzsch; "Support variable SQL backends in SPARQL Store" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32930 [21:02:07] 03(mod) Add namespaces on [[:bar:]] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41962 +comment (10Al Bua) [21:03:26] New patchset: Aude; "backwards compatibility to handle client entities with numeric ids" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32929 [21:04:56] 03(NEW) Wikivoyage : a user unifying his account can't access it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42027 major; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (quentinv57) [21:05:40] New patchset: Aude; "make EntityObject::getId more robust against existing data" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32557 [21:06:33] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions/EducationProgram] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32959 [21:06:51] Change merged: TheDJ; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32569 [21:07:07] Change abandoned: TheDJ; "dupe" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32730 [21:08:09] New review: Aude; "There are such cases that the id is an integer." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32557 [21:24:06] New patchset: Aude; "add EntityChange base class to handle common stuff for all change types" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33033 [21:32:17] 03(mod) Incorrect number of active users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41933 +comment (10Daniel Kinzler) [21:32:45] New patchset: Aude; "add EntityChange base class to handle common stuff for all change types" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33033 [21:33:14] 03(mod) Date suggestion should extract time as well from EXIF data - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29470 +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [21:33:25] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "This sounds like the serialization is lousily implemented. Think the logic in this patch makes no se..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: -2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32557 [21:35:16] New review: Alex Monk; "bump" [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaMessages] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31672 [21:40:58] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Added some fixmes" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33034 [21:43:36] 03(ASSIGNED) Add namespaces on [[:bar:]] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41962 -shellpolicy +shell; +comment (10Dereckson) [21:43:46] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "Looks good" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master); V: 0 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32930 [21:45:34] 03(FIXED) File upload to en.wikivoyage.org resulted in broken image - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42022 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [21:46:48] 03(mod) Debug toolbar's debug log has no scrollbar in Konqueror - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40286 summary; +comment (10Tim Landscheidt) [21:49:18] 03(mod) Wikibase updater eats all memory in Jenkins - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41645 +comment (10Daniel Kinzler) [21:49:36] "frame.args[1]" and "mw.page.title.name" don't work to me in mediawiki.org in scribunto [21:50:17] what's wrong? [21:50:29] someone cam halp? [21:50:47] Raylton: it would help if you linked the exact page you're having torubles with [21:51:31] MatmaRex, http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Module:Nav [21:52:49] i use "mw.page.title.name" in value of "t" variable [21:53:04] New patchset: Raimond Spekking; "1 author per line per Siebrands CR" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticExtraSpecialProperties] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32885 [21:53:30] Raylton: i've never written anything in MW's lua yet, but it seems like frame is being passed as a function argument from somewhere [21:53:37] Raylton: and your function accepts no arguemtns [21:53:39] Change merged: Raimond Spekking; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticExtraSpecialProperties] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32885 [21:53:43] Raylton: e.g see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Module:StringLength [21:53:54] Raylton: or even https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Module:Hello_world! [21:55:55] MatmaRex, sooo tanks you help me to solve it [21:55:56] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "Ok, we indeed have some bad serialization going on, in both the changes table and the entity cache. ..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: -2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32557 [21:57:25] Raylton: :) [21:58:40] New review: Aude; "You changed the expected return value of getId() here." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32557 [21:59:59] MatmaRex, you know any module that uses the "mw.page.title.name"? [22:00:45] Raylton: nope, but here's a lost of all of them: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:PrefixIndex/module: [22:01:26] MatmaRex, so thanks :) [22:01:40] New review: Aude; "Don't worry too much about the EntityCacheTable as don't think we'll end up having it on the clients..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32557 [22:02:11] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "Agree with the change in general, but there are some issues. And it looks like there are several tha..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33033 [22:02:53] Change abandoned: Jeroen De Dauw; "(no reason)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33034 [22:05:21] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "> You changed the expected return value of getId() here." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: -2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32557 [22:06:40] 03(mod) Date suggestion should extract time as well from EXIF data - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29470 +comment (10Nemo) [22:08:00] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "What exactly can we kill? The EntityCache? If we can directly access the primary data from anywhere ..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: -2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32557 [22:09:54] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Remove autoload of class no longer in Wikibase" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33038 [22:10:03] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33038 [22:12:20] New patchset: Aude; "add EntityChange base class to handle common stuff for all change types" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33033 [22:12:47] New review: Tim Starling; "You write half a feature, deploy it, and the absence of the other half immediately becomes apparent ..." [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master); V: 0 C: -2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32030 [22:16:02] New patchset: Aude; "add EntityChange base class to handle common stuff for all change types" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33033 [22:19:20] New review: Aude; "the pollforchanges mechanism doesn't yet use the api or a other way for third parties yet to use the..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32557 [22:19:29] 03(FIXED) Add support for language variants to the thank_you module - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32540 +comment (10Peter Gehres) [22:20:15] 03(mod) Add support for language variants to the thank_you module - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32540 +comment (10Peter Gehres) [22:21:59] New review: Aude; "" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32557 [22:23:24] 03(NEW) Wikidata special page aliases give an "no such special page" error. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42028 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; (snaevar-wiki) [22:24:59] 03(mod) Wikidata special page aliases give an "no such special page" error. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42028 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [22:24:59] 03(FIXED) Convert unsubscribe page in "thank_you" to .tpl - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31985 +comment (10Peter Gehres) [22:26:34] New patchset: TheDJ; "Don't wikilink input that is already likely to be wikicode" [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33039 [22:27:46] 03(mod) Wikilinks in author field break {{information}} template. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35520 +patch-in-gerrit; +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [22:29:11] 03(mod) Wikidata special page aliases give an "no such special page" error. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42028 +comment (10Aude) [22:30:40] 03(mod) Wikidata special page aliases give an "no such special page" error. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42028 +comment (10Aude) [22:33:13] 03(FIXED) Allow for files to have different URLs depending on type (for video streaming & range handling) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39016 summary; +comment (10Aaron Schulz) [22:35:00] is there an extension available to manage users? e.g. view all their preferences, email address, etc. [22:35:09] i'm looking but so far i'm just seeing one to delete them [22:36:15] 03(mod) User (suddenly) can't log in to OTRS system - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41819 +comment (10MZMcBride) [22:37:21] New review: Aaron Schulz; "WIP" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29736 [22:39:22] New review: Aude; "still working on this" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33033 [22:48:14] 03(NEW) Links from wikivoyage.org to wikivoyage-old.org (any subdomain) need rel="nofollow" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42029 normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (carlb613) [22:48:15] 03(mod) Wikivoyage migration (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41184 (10Carl Austin Bennett) [22:52:50] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "Indeed, makes it harder to backport stuff." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: -2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32557 [22:53:29] 14(DUP) Links from wikivoyage.org to wikivoyage-old.org (any subdomain) need rel="nofollow" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42029 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [22:53:29] 03(mod) Link to WikiTravel in the attribution footer on Wikivoyage lacks nofollow; also make link not clickable? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41983 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [22:54:08] 03(mod) UploadWizard failing to recognize valid WikiText and licenses - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35901 +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [22:54:58] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "If we go not need the entity cache for the coming months then yes, let's move it out. Less stuff to ..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: -2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32557 [22:57:18] 03(mod) Add namespaces on [[:bar:]] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41962 +comment (10Dereckson) [22:59:42] New review: Reedy; "Asking people to put config in includes/config-custom.php inside the extension is asking for trouble..." [mediawiki/extensions/GWToolset] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31423 [23:00:39] 04(REOPENED) Links from wikivoyage.org to wikivoyage-old.org (any subdomain) need rel="nofollow" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42029 +comment (10Carl Austin Bennett) [23:07:17] New patchset: TheDJ; "(bug 35901) Follow redirect of title when retrieving categories" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33040 [23:07:29] 03(mod) UploadWizard failing to recognize valid WikiText and licenses - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35901 +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [23:07:39] 03(mod) UploadWizard failing to recognize valid WikiText and licenses - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35901 +patch-in-gerrit (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [23:12:45] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Implement Serializable interface for the entities" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33041 [23:13:06] New patchset: Yaron Koren; "Some capitalization, punctuation improvements" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticWatchlist] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33042 [23:13:55] Change merged: Yaron Koren; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticWatchlist] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33042 [23:14:23] Change merged: Markus Kroetzsch; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32930 [23:15:46] 03(mod) Add namespaces on [[:bar:]] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41962 +patch-in-gerrit; +comment (10Dereckson) [23:17:08] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "Attempt to fix the serialization issue: I7d8b5679" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: -2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32557 [23:17:38] New patchset: Yaron Koren; "Some HTML and CSS improvements" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticWatchlist] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33044 [23:18:10] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Implement Serializable interface for the entities" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33041 [23:19:09] Change merged: Yaron Koren; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticWatchlist] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33044 [23:41:09] 14(INVALID) Links from wikivoyage.org to wikivoyage-old.org (any subdomain) need rel="nofollow" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42029 +comment (10Krenair) [23:42:23] New patchset: Aude; "add EntityChange base class to handle common stuff for all change types" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33033 [23:56:27] New patchset: Aude; "add check for existing duplicate entities in EntityCacheUpdater when adding new ones" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33045 [23:57:26] 03(mod) MediaWiki treats User:WMF_Import as an IP instead of a user account - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41979 +comment (10Thehelpfulone)