[00:00:19] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Catrope; "Updating VisualEditor" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf4) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36326
[00:01:12] <leucosticte>	 i have a database optimization question. the templatelinks table has an index on (tl_from,tl_namespace,tl_title). I wrote an extension that does queries with, e.g. "WHERE tl_from=1 AND ((tl_namespace=10 AND tl_title='Wikipedia text') OR (tl_namespace=10 AND tl_title='foo')  OR ...)" will know to SQL use the index on that query, or do I need to use "WHERE (tl_from=1 AND tl_namespace=10 AND tl_title='foo') OR ..."
[00:01:15] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Catrope; "Updating VisualEditor" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf5) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36327
[00:01:16] <leucosticte>	 the extension is at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:PerPageLicense#PerPageLicense.php
[00:01:46] <RoanKattouw>	 leucosticte: That should work fine
[00:01:46] <leucosticte>	 *will SQL know to
[00:01:55] <leucosticte>	 ok, thanks
[00:02:13] <leucosticte>	 either one is equivalent as far as indexing is concerned, eh
[00:03:02] <Krenair>	 akaptur, any luck?
[00:03:38] <akaptur>	 Krenair: yes and no - now I can find a user, but when I make changes and hit save, the settings don't save
[00:06:16] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Update EventLogging to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf5) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36329
[00:07:58] <akaptur>	 Krenair: I've defined a custom auth, so perhaps that's causing the problem
[00:08:14] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Ori.livneh; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf5) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36329
[00:08:43] <sumanah>	 sDrewth: hey, so in general, templatesandbox -- useful? any suggestions or bug reports?
[00:09:26] <tekmosis>	 Is there any way I can stop the resource loader from using jQuery from /resources/ and use the gooleapis CDN instead?
[00:10:46] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) When moving a file at Commons, the created redirect is not recognized (or file usage is not updated) in other wikis and the file is not shown in articles it is included in - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42582  +comment (10Rainer Rillke @commons.wikimedia)
[00:11:34] <sDrewth>	 cannot judge yet, haven't looked sufficiently
[00:13:49] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Catrope; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf5) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36327
[00:14:04] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Catrope; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf4) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36326
[00:23:03] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Alex Monk; "(bug 12518) Cross-wiki user rights UI should show target wiki groups instead of local" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36330
[00:24:00] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Cross-wiki userrights reflects groups on local wiki, not target wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/12518  +comment (10Krenair)
[00:29:18] <akaptur>	 Krenair: I'm still not able to get user rights to save.  Any ideas for what I can try or steps to debug?
[00:31:41] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Assign NS_SCHEMA rights to editinterface" [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36331
[00:33:14] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Swalling; "Necessary permissions." [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master); V: 0 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36331
[00:34:14] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Narayam is not working with hotcat, reftoolbar etc. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41766  +comment (10praveenp)
[00:34:24] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Ori.livneh; [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36331
[00:35:15] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Update EventLogging to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf5) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36332
[00:36:15] <qgil_>	 Isarra, ESSENTIAL
[00:36:15] <qgil_>	     Is your project proposal publicly available in a wiki page, containing answers for these questions?
[00:36:21] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Alex Monk; "Work in progress, not quite working properly yet" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36330
[00:36:22] <qgil_>	 Isarra, this is what counts
[00:38:42] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Ori.livneh; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf5) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36332
[00:40:11] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Pgehres; "Updating webmoney form" [mediawiki/extensions/DonationInterface] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36333
[00:40:44] <sumanah>	 akaptur: you might want to try the mediawiki-l list
[00:40:48] <sumanah>	 !lists  | akaptur 
[00:40:48] <wm-bot>	  akaptur : mediawiki-l and wikitech-l are the primary mailing lists for MediaWiki-related issues. See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mailing_lists for details.
[00:42:35] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Pgehres; "Updating webmoney form" [mediawiki/extensions/DonationInterface] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36333
[00:43:31] <wikibugs>	 03(FIXED) VisualEditor: In link inspector, when you hover over a dropdown list item it should highlight (blue background), not only when using keyboard navigation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39977  +comment (10James Forrester)
[00:47:00] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Alex Monk; "(bug 12518) Cross-wiki user rights UI should show target wiki groups instead of local" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36330
[00:47:18] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Title displayed for Main Page when loaded via search - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41290  +comment (10Jon)
[00:48:00] <Isarra>	 qgil_: So make a page specifically for the project description?
[00:48:25] <qgil_>	 Isarra, yes
[00:48:29] <Isarra>	 What's in the section now is quite brief, really, so... okay.
[00:49:16] <Isarra>	 So what, just take that thing and expand it?
[00:49:29] <Isarra>	 Where, exactly?
[00:49:51] <qgil_>	 Isarra, you are the first one needing a plan to have an idea about wat are you going to do in 3 months working full time, if elected
[00:49:57] <qgil_>	 Isarra, you need to agree this with your entor
[00:50:13] <qgil_>	 Isarra, just create a subpage under your user page
[00:50:43] <Isarra>	 Well, there's a brief proposal on the main OPW page, so this an expansion of that, right??
[00:50:44] <Isarra>	 -?
[00:50:56] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "[FileBackend] Actually unset the "conn" field in closeConnection()." [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf5) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36336
[00:51:15] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf5) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36336
[00:51:15] <Isarra>	 Just kidnap jorm and... uh...
[00:51:17] <Isarra>	 words.
[00:51:59] <Isarra>	 qgil_: And the application, who all will be seeing that?
[00:52:59] <qgil_>	 Isarra, you can just link to the wiki page. At the end it's us Wikimedisa mentors who are going to decide on our internships, and we are going to look at the selection process and criteria described
[00:53:46] <Isarra>	 Okay, so... send application thing to GNOME or whatever linking to user subpage, at which y'all will actually be looking?
[00:53:54] <Isarra>	 This... seems very strange.
[00:54:14] <qgil_>	 Isarra, why? we just want to ave all the details in public, not in emals
[00:54:36] * qgil_  needs to type  s l o w e r

[00:54:55] <Isarra>	 Because there's the general OPW stuff and the Wikimedia OPW stuff and it's contradictory!
[00:55:03] <Isarra>	 And brain confused easily.
[00:55:12] <qgil_>	 Isarra, also, if all the greatness of your application is in a private email, getting community endorsements will be more complicated
[00:55:42] <Isarra>	 qgil_: Well, to be fair, with me getting community endorsements can be somewhat complicated as it is.
[00:55:56] <Isarra>	 Like I seem to get the most when people mix me up with someone else.
[00:56:03] <Isarra>	 Although maybe that's just wikipedia.
[00:56:11] <qgil_>	 Isarra, is it contradictory? We are just asking you to put all the verbosity in wiki pages. Then in your email candidature reference to those pages instead of riting the verbosity. Or you can copy paste, up to you
[00:56:29] <Isarra>	 It's somewhat, but it does make a lot more sense when explained.
[00:56:57] <qgil_>	 Isarra, I'l try to improve the description of te process. Sorry, my first time here.
[00:56:59] <Isarra>	 Having a section about this on the mww page might help.
[00:57:13] <Isarra>	 Here?
[00:57:19] <qgil_>	 OPW
[00:57:51] <Isarra>	 Oh, heh, no worries. It's getting betters as it goes and all the betterness will be there for next time, yes?
[00:58:15] <Isarra>	 Dammit, bouncer, let me stay connected!
[00:58:19] * Isarra  smacks it.

[00:58:25] <qgil_>	 Isarra, https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Outreach_Program_for_Women#Selection tries to explain the process. Thank for your feedback.
[00:59:14] <Isarra>	 Something about the application specifically more towards the top of the page, referencing the selection section, might help.
[00:59:23] <Isarra>	 But then again, the page is quite large already.
[01:00:47] <mutante>	 qgil_: andre__ : the number of active users in Bugzilla per the requested query was in November: 441 (half an hour before end of month in UTC)
[01:01:03] <andre__>	 interesting. thanks!
[01:01:07] <mutante>	 todo: puppetize/cron to mail it to you automatically
[01:01:24] <mutante>	 on every last day of month  (RT-3962)
[01:01:54] <mutante>	 the definition of "active" can be found in that mysql query linked from ticket
[01:02:45] <mutante>	 andre__: qgil_ requested that data for community metrics
[01:02:51] <sumanah>	 qgil_: andre__ - if you can tell Guillaume that in an email or something that would be nice for the monthly report as well
[01:02:51] <mutante>	 so it was a ticket 
[01:02:54] <sumanah>	 the monthly eng report
[01:05:05] <qgil_>	 mutante, thank you!
[01:05:13] <mutante>	 yw;)
[01:06:26] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Mwjames; "Merge branch 'master' into 1.9.x" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (1.9.x) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36337
[01:13:04] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Mwjames; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (1.9.x) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36337
[01:13:38] <sumanah>	 those of you who are not in the San Francisco Wikimedia Foundation office: we are having our Friday social hours now and so latency is increasing :-)
[01:13:59] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Mwalker; [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36304
[01:15:32] <qgil_>	 Isarra, the long page is less long now. Hope it helps https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Outreach_Program_for_Women
[01:16:05] <hypergrove>	 hi getting Processing all IDs from 1 to last ID ...
[01:16:05] <hypergrove>	 A database query syntax error has occurred.
[01:16:05] <hypergrove>	 The last attempted database query was:
[01:16:05] <hypergrove>	 "DELETE FROM `smw_urimapping` WHERE smw_id = '51'"
[01:16:06] <hypergrove>	 from within function "DatabaseBase::delete".
[01:16:06] <hypergrove>	 Database returned error "1146: Table 'hoytwiki.smw_urimapping' doesn't exist (localhost)"
[01:16:07] <hypergrove>	 ubuntu@ip-10-245-129-254:/var/www/mediawiki-1.17.3/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/maintenance$
[01:16:44] <hypergrove>	 sorry - i meant to say i ran smw_setup.php all ok, ran smw_update.php and getting the above message
[01:17:56] <Isarra>	 qgil_: Cool, but what exactly is the application process?
[01:18:23] <Isarra>	 At this point it should be less of an issue, but you might want to have a section explaining just that next time, because folks have been rather unclear on that specifically.
[01:22:31] <htaccess_>	 hello, i am looking for some help copying a complicated template to a mediawiki instance
[01:22:40] <sumanah>	 hi there htaccess_ 
[01:22:42] <sumanah>	 !copytemplates
[01:22:43] <wm-bot>	 For help copying templates from one wiki to another, see < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Templates#Copying_from_one_wiki_to_another >.
[01:22:49] <sumanah>	 htaccess_: ^
[01:22:52] <htaccess_>	 thansk
[01:22:57] <sumanah>	 you're welcome!
[01:23:06] <sumanah>	 it's annoyingly tedious
[01:24:04] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Mwjames; "Consolidation/clean-up subobject parser class" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (1.9.x) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36338
[01:24:14] <htaccess_>	 yes this template has like 50 subtemplates and i dont have import rights
[01:24:26] <htaccess_>	 so i have copied a subset to test
[01:24:30] <htaccess_>	 its almost working
[01:24:37] <sumanah>	 ha!
[01:25:03] <sumanah>	 htaccess_: also on the very very newest version of MediaWiki as deployed on Wikimedia sites you can use "template sandbox" while editing templates
[01:25:08] <sumanah>	 !templatesandbox | htaccess_ 
[01:26:03] <htaccess_>	 i am trying to copy http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Convert and here is my test: http://opensourceecology.org/wiki/User:Donovan#Current_objectives converting temperature
[01:26:24] <sumanah>	 back later, good luck
[01:26:34] <htaccess_>	 it seems to be linking to a page that doe snot exist in the origional
[01:36:04] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Mwjames; "Consolidation/clean-up subobject parser class" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (1.9.x) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36338
[01:37:16] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Text layer of DjVu files doesn't appear in Page namespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42466  04CRIT->major; +comment (10Doug)
[01:45:27] <htaccess_>	 ahhh, ive fallen down the template dependency rabbit hole
[01:55:37] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Adamw; "add some helpful metadata about each change log entry" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36339
[01:56:14] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Mwjames; "Consolidation/clean-up subobject parser class" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (1.9.x) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36338
[01:58:34] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Mwjames; "Fixed test." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (1.9.x); V: 1 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36338
[01:59:04] <Isarra>	 It should not take an hour just to reconnect to IRC.
[01:59:08] <Isarra>	 It really shouldn't.
[01:59:39] <Isarra>	 Does anyone know what I was doing?
[01:59:47] <Isarra>	 Because now I don't remember.
[02:04:51] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Support MPEG DASH for multiple webm files - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42591 normal; MediaWiki extensions: TimedMediaHandler; (dale)
[02:21:29] <factor>	 Does media wiki have any method for making some nice connected arrows
[02:23:34] <mutante>	 factor: maybe http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:GraphViz 
[02:26:56] <factor>	 mutante, wonder how much that relys on graphics libs. 
[02:27:21] <factor>	 oh graphviz is what it uses. 
[02:29:05] <factor>	 mutante, that is what i wanted ,but limited as I cant use C gfx libs
[02:29:15] <mutante>	 factor: there is more in http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:Graph_extensions
[02:29:48] <factor>	 SVG woudl work using html5
[02:30:19] <mutante>	 last time i tried to draw a graph from wiki page is like years ago;)
[02:30:32] <mutante>	 but there are quite a few options
[02:31:20] <mutante>	 the analytics team might also be into this
[02:35:09] <factor>	 http://www.w3schools.com/html/html5_svg.asp
[02:35:27] <factor>	 Using the SVG stuff , very light weight and gfx done on client side
[02:36:15] <factor>	 Guess i can make an extension, but will hold off currently busy. 
[02:36:19] <mutante>	 sounds cool
[03:09:01] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Text layer of DjVu files doesn't appear in Page namespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42466  (10baltoslavic)
[03:09:36] <Gryllida>	 Hi, how can I retrieve full URL if I have a string containing page title and section? ie "Test 34#Hi there?" into http://my.wiki.com/wiki/Test_34#Hi_there%## (whre ## are some two numbers, probably %30)
[03:09:57] <Gryllida>	 I got the query prop=info do the job, but it ignores section names.
[03:13:57] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "Reverted to state as of 40a0eb2367233dcb0401f9aa5554d451ca771ebf" [mediawiki/extensions/LabeledSectionTransclusion] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36340
[03:15:28] <Brooke>	 Gryllida: You could pass it to MediaWiki's parser.
[03:16:01] <Brooke>	 &action=parse with &text={{fullurl:Page title#Section}} or something.
[03:23:17] <Brooke>	 Hmm, or not.
[03:27:39] <Brooke>	 Gryllida: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=parse&text={{canonicalurl:hello%23hello}}&format=jsonfm&prop=text
[03:30:00] <Gryllida>	 is the canonical url template also used by the wiki when users add [[hello#hello]] to the markup, or does the wiki use something else?
[03:39:32] <Gryllida>	 Brooke: ^^
[03:40:05] <Brooke>	 It's not a template, it's a magic word.
[03:40:17] <Brooke>	 Though depending on version of MediaWiki, you may want {{fullurl:}} instead.
[03:40:33] <factor>	 Can someone help me with a template? I am trying to add multi language support 
[03:40:46] <factor>	 and i cant get back to en
[03:40:50] <factor>	 whichis default.
[03:40:55] <factor>	 which is 
[03:41:06] <Brooke>	 Gryllida: When users add [[hello#hello]], the MediaWiki parser takes over. You can pass that string ("[[Hello#hello]]") to action=parse, but you get a relative URL in the HTML output.
[03:41:16] <Gryllida>	 it's running version 1.21wmf5 (dbcff2e)
[03:41:22] <Brooke>	 That is, href="/wiki/Foo", not href="http://domain.com/wiki/Foo".
[03:41:26] <factor>	 I tried to do a redirect from en back to the default page but still did not work.
[03:41:39] <Brooke>	 factor: Link to what you're working on?
[03:41:48] <factor>	 http://www.userspace.org/index.php/Userspace:Language_policy
[03:42:58] <factor>	 If I can make English an option would be fine. 
[03:43:07] <factor>	 which is what the redirect I though would do. 
[03:43:31] <Gryllida>	 Brooke: do i use canonicalurl or fullurl for my version? do they ever become different from what the wiki displays when a user adds [[something here]] to a page markup?
[03:43:57] <Brooke>	 Gryllida: I just explained the difference.
[03:44:06] <Brooke>	 [[foo]] is href="/wiki/foo"
[03:44:17] <Brooke>	 {{fullurl:foo}} is href="http://domain.com/wiki/foo"
[03:44:29] <Brooke>	 Well, kind of.
[03:44:39] <Brooke>	 It's really href="//domain.com/wiki/foo" these days.
[03:44:47] <Gryllida>	 and {{canonicalurl:foo}} ?
[03:44:52] <Brooke>	 And then {{canonicalurl:foo}} is href="http://domain.com/wiki/foo"
[03:44:57] <Brooke>	 !magicwords
[03:44:58] <wm-bot>	 For more information about creating magic words and their inner workings, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Magic_words>. For a list of magic words, please see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Magic_words>.
[03:45:01] <Brooke>	 Read the second link.
[03:46:32] <Gryllida>	 it says {{fullurl:Category:Top level}} → //www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:Top_level but you say {{fullurl:foo}} is href="http://domain.com/wiki/foo"
[03:46:51] <Brooke>	 I corrected myself.
[03:46:58] <factor>	 I can change the |en=Language: line to |en=English:
[03:47:02] <Brooke>	 It used to be that {{fullurl:}} included the protocol.
[03:47:04] <factor>	 see what that does.
[03:47:05] <Brooke>	 Now there's canonicalurl.
[03:47:21] <Brooke>	 http://www.userspace.org/index.php?title=Template:Multilang&action=edit gives me a headache.
[03:47:37] <factor>	 yup
[03:47:47] <Gryllida>	 oh yes, i got it, i should read better, thanks
[03:47:52] <Brooke>	 :-)
[03:48:29] <Brooke>	 Gryllida: Basically Wikimedia (makers of MediaWiki) implemented protocol-relative support. So //en.wikipedia.org/ can be either https://en.wikipedia.org or http://en.wikipedia.org, depending on the user's current protocol.
[03:48:42] <Brooke>	 And consequently the magic words behavior changed a bit.
[03:51:27] <Gryllida>	 but er, the thing returns html markup with the full link in it; i was looking for just the full url
[03:52:01] * Gryllida  reads up a few more times to figure out what to read right

[04:03:09] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Nischayn22; "Bug 32408 UW doesn't highlight errors in "more info"" [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36342
[04:06:19] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) UploadWizard doesn't highlight errors in "more info" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32408  +comment (10Nischay Nahata)
[04:07:54] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) MediaWiki thinks a public domain license is unacceptable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40920  +comment (10Ferry Roland)
[04:10:20] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) MediaWiki thinks a public domain license is unacceptable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40920  major->normal (10Ferry Roland)
[04:10:42] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Spage; "First steps, implements Special:WelcomeNewUser" [mediawiki/extensions/Onboarding] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35598
[04:14:51] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) MediaWiki thinks a public domain license is unacceptable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40920  normal->major (10Ferry Roland)
[04:15:08] <Gryllida>	 sorry, i fail to see how to get just the full url without the <p> and <a> tags around it so it would work for both [[foo]] and [[wikipedia:foo]]
[04:16:03] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) MediaWiki thinks a public domain license is unacceptable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40920  +comment (10Ferry Roland)
[04:16:45] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) MediaWiki thinks a public domain license is unacceptable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40920  +comment (10Ferry Roland)
[04:19:12] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Kaldari; [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34564
[04:19:28] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) MediaWiki thinks a public domain license is unacceptable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40920  +comment (10Ferry Roland)
[04:23:08] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Ori.livneh; "(Bug 42561) Enable Ace's JSON mode" [mediawiki/extensions/CodeEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36343
[04:24:09] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Special:UserRights broken in Mediawiki 1.20.1 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42592 major; MediaWiki: Special pages; (sixthhokage1)
[04:24:55] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) MediaWiki thinks a public domain license is unacceptable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40920  +comment (10Ferry Roland)
[04:26:14] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Enable CodeEditor extension on Schema namespace on Meta-Wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42561  +comment (10Ori Livneh)
[04:29:30] <Gryllida>	 sorry, i fail to see how to get just the full url without the <p> and <a> tags around it so it would work for both [[foo]] and [[wikipedia:foo]]
[04:29:39] <Gryllida>	 er
[04:36:19] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: MZMcBride; "Bless you." [mediawiki/extensions/CodeEditor] (master) C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36343
[04:46:38] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Ori.livneh; "(Bug 42561) On CodeEditorGetPageLanguage, set 'json' as schema lang" [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36344
[05:23:06] <hypergrove>	 hello, when running runjobs after importdump, i got Database returned error "1146: Table 'hoytwiki.smw_urimapping' doesn't exist (localhost)"
[05:23:18] <hypergrove>	 any ideas on this? thanks
[05:38:11] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Ori.livneh; "(Bug 42561) On CodeEditorGetPageLanguage, set 'json' as schema lang" [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36344
[05:45:45] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) CodeEditor should use ContentHandler - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42593 normal; MediaWiki extensions: CodeEditor; (ori)
[06:00:36] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Text layer of DjVu files doesn't appear in Page namespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42466  +comment (10Doug)
[06:03:56] <therocketmaster>	 Uh, i have a strange bug on my wiki.
[06:04:50] <therocketmaster>	 It's not showing me the editing toolbar, and the preferences have lost their tabs.
[06:05:19] <Brooke>	 Sounds like you broke JavaScript.
[06:05:30] <Brooke>	 Check your Web browser's error console.
[06:05:41] <Brooke>	 Or check the HTML page source and ensure that JavaScript is being delivered properly.
[06:06:08] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Change $wgNoFollowLinks to default to false - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42594 minor; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (nathanlarson3141)
[06:06:51] <therocketmaster>	 Error console gives me a bunch of errors.
[06:07:51] <therocketmaster>	 Could it be that the JavaScript is not compatible with this version of MediaWiki?
[06:08:37] <Brooke>	 It could be.
[06:08:42] <Brooke>	 Did you upgrade your wiki recently?
[06:08:49] <Brooke>	 Most JS doesn't execute on Special:Preferences, though.
[06:08:52] <Brooke>	 As I recall.
[06:08:54] <therocketmaster>	 Can't.
[06:09:00] <Brooke>	 Can't upgrade?
[06:09:29] <therocketmaster>	 My host is running an old version of PHP.
[06:09:47] <therocketmaster>	 5.2, i think.
[06:12:33] <therocketmaster>	 So, how do i fix it?
[06:12:52] <SuchetaG>	 Hi, could anyone tell me where to put  mw.msg('Message')  exactly?
[06:13:13] <therocketmaster>	 I think it happened when i got the Math extension to work.
[06:13:38] <SuchetaG>	 This code precisely: $( '<a>' ).prop( 'href', '#' ).text( mw.msg( 'message-key-foo' ) );
[06:16:49] <Brooke>	 SuchetaG: What are you trying to do?
[06:16:57] <Brooke>	 The Rocket Master quit.
[06:18:39] <SuchetaG>	 I am trying to add title messages and message documentation in EtherEditor.i18n.php. Then forward the message to the client in EtherEditor.php, and finally use the messages in the JavaScript file!
[06:19:18] <SuchetaG>	 Brooke: I have followed the instrictions. But I have some doubts actually
[06:19:44] <Brooke>	 Don't we all.
[06:19:51] <Brooke>	 Are you working on a Gerrit changeset?
[06:20:00] <Brooke>	 You should be able to get feedback/reviews of your code via Gerrit.
[06:21:12] <SuchetaG>	 this is the first time I am working with il8n actually.
[06:24:00] <SuchetaG>	 Have edited the il8n.php file, and the .php file
[06:24:36] <SuchetaG>	 Now how to use them in javascript file?
[06:52:53] <darwin>	 my wiki works fine on localhost, but when I access it from a remote shell, a couple web browsers are saying it has a cylcic redirect or is redirected in a way that will never complete
[07:07:04] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Bugzilla needs a RESOLVED MURDERED resolution - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42595 enhancement; Wikimedia: Bugzilla; (zhorishna)
[07:09:24] <darwin>	 one of the other errors was 301
[07:09:56] <Susan>	 Sounds like a misconfigured Web server?
[07:10:02] <Susan>	 Follow the chain of redirects?
[07:10:19] <Susan>	 If you think MediaWiki is to blame, check the value of $wgServer in LocalSettings.php.
[07:12:03] <darwin>	 I am not sure MediaWiki is to blame or how to follow the chain, but I have the path for Wordpress set up in a similar way, and that works
[07:12:06] <darwin>	 $wgServer           = "http://athenaion.dyndns.org/";
[07:14:35] <darwin>	 I have MediaWiki in something like /home/user/html/mediawiki and then a link called mediawiki in /var/www (web server document root,) and I am using the short URL thing (I had got it right earlier before I moved my web files)
[07:15:11] <darwin>	 but the error looks a little different than what it says if this may be a result of doing short URLs and something else (mod_php) I think
[07:16:54] <darwin>	 I did not actually redirect anything
[07:17:38] <darwin>	 I think it might be my short URL rewriting thing after all
[07:18:12] <darwin>	 actually not
[07:19:48] <darwin>	 maybe it is the '/' on the end of that variable... I will try that next
[07:20:11] <darwin>	 yes, surprisingly, that was it
[07:20:54] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Bugzilla needs a RESOLVED MURDERED resolution - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42595  +comment (10Brandon Harris)
[07:21:51] <tyteen4a03>	 Hi, my MW installation is using too much imagemagick resources my webhost complained. Is there a way to disable it?
[07:22:47] <p858snake|l>	 Your first point, would probably to understand why its using soo much first, before you disable it
[07:23:38] <tyteen4a03>	 p858snake|l, I have no idea it is using so much resources
[07:23:55] <tyteen4a03>	 the wiki is not used frequently and I don't have a lot of images
[07:24:29] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) RESOLVED HUMOROUS (TRACKING) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29079  (10p858snake)
[07:24:30] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Bugzilla needs a RESOLVED MURDERED resolution - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42595  (10p858snake)
[07:37:36] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Cross-wiki userrights reflects groups on local wiki, not target wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/12518  +comment (10Quentinv57)
[07:43:44] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Wizardist; "(Bug 10049) Prefix index search and namespaces in Special:Withoutinterwiki" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35626
[07:59:11] <Isarra>	 With git, how do you uncommit something?
[08:02:02] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Change $wgNoFollowLinks to default to false - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42594  +comment (10Nemo)
[08:15:28] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Wizardist; "(Bug 5231) Mouseover explanations for interlanguage links in native languages" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35871
[08:34:36] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Krinkle; "Event name misspelled, event handler is not unbound." [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master); V: 0 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36318
[08:45:38] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Change $wgNoFollowLinks to default to false - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42594  +comment (10Nathan Larson)
[08:47:02] <wizardist>	 aharoni: name one language in MediaWiki that performs digit transformation?
[08:48:08] <wizardist>	 hi is good
[08:57:52] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Wizardist; "(Bug 35753) Add a way to use {{FORMATNUM}} to just do digit transform" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35603
[09:06:25] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Wizardist; "(Bug 35753) Add a way to use {{FORMATNUM}} to just do digit transform" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35603
[09:07:39] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Fatal error if to be merged users are blocked - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35239  +comment (10Krinkle)
[09:07:54] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Ori.livneh; "(Bug 42561) Enable Ace's JSON mode" [mediawiki/extensions/CodeEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36343
[09:08:37] <wikibugs>	 03(ASSIGNED) Fatal error if to be merged users are blocked - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35239  (10Krinkle)
[09:09:15] <wikibugs>	 14(DUP) Fatal error if to be merged users are blocked - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35239  +comment (10Krinkle)
[09:09:16] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Cannot delete users in block list - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33414  +comment (10Krinkle)
[09:09:47] <wikibugs>	 03(ASSIGNED) Cannot merge/delete blocked user - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33414  summary (10Krinkle)
[09:10:00] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Ori.livneh; "(Bug 42561) Enable Ace's JSON mode" [mediawiki/extensions/CodeEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36343
[09:12:28] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Krinkle; "(bug 33414) Fix SQL error on merge/delete with blocked user." [mediawiki/extensions/UserMerge] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36345
[09:13:02] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Krinkle; [mediawiki/extensions/UserMerge] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36345
[09:13:58] <wikibugs>	 03(FIXED) Unable to merge/delete blocked user - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33414  summary; +comment (10Krinkle)
[09:14:14] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Unable to merge/delete blocked user - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33414  (10Krinkle)
[09:20:30] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Special:UserRights broken in Mediawiki 1.20.1 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42592  +comment (10Alexander Mashin)
[09:25:17] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Change $wgNoFollowLinks to default to false - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42594  +comment (10Nemo)
[09:34:21] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) When memcache is restarted project tokens are not re-created - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42596 normal; MediaWiki extensions: OpenStackManager; (rlane32)
[09:41:47] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Inconsistent rendering of redirect pages left behind after file was moved - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42597 normal; MediaWiki: File management; (rainerrillke)
[09:42:07] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) jquery.tipsy should have better triggers for showing and hiding - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42584  +comment (10Michael M.)
[09:43:05] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Inconsistent rendering of redirect pages left behind after file was moved - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42597  +comment (10Rainer Rillke @commons.wikimedia)
[09:43:09] <wikibugs>	 03(FIXED) Make edit link and other repo links protocol relative - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42534  +comment (10db)
[09:44:14] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Allow and display both wiki name and shell name in dialogs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33462  +comment (10db)
[09:44:15] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Inconsistent rendering of redirect pages left behind moved files - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42597  summary (10Rainer Rillke @commons.wikimedia)
[09:46:32] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) CentralAuth Session Fixation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40962  +comment (10db)
[09:47:46] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Generic Session Fixation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40995  +comment (10db)
[09:48:09] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Inconsistent rendering of redirect pages left behind moved files - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42597  +comment (10Rainer Rillke @commons.wikimedia)
[09:49:40] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Permission checks fails in some tests - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42526  +comment (10db)
[10:06:45] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Nischayn22; "This selects all the "more info"s out there" [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master) C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36342
[10:13:19] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) duplicate link: is not HTML-linked to file page, not red and points to the wrong URL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32606  +comment (10db)
[10:19:19] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Nischayn22; "Bug 32408 UW doesn't highlight errors in "more info"" [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36342
[10:23:45] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) MediaWiki api doesn't serve EXIF GPSAltitude (and other tags) as decimals - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32410  +comment (10db)
[10:37:20] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) [Regression] removeUnusedAccounts.php broken (needs to ignore newuser logging entry) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34581   +code-update-regression; summary (10Krinkle)
[10:45:58] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Database: $fname should also be logged for BEGIN/COMMIT queries. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42598 normal; MediaWiki: Database; (krinklemail)
[10:47:14] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Edits wrongly attributed on frwikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35610  +comment (10MArc)
[10:48:58] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Some vowel combination in Sinhala Wijesekara need to be corrected - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32029  +comment (10db)
[10:53:31] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Krinkle; "(bug 42598) Database: fname was not logged for BEGIN/COMMIT." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36346
[10:53:50] <wikibugs>	 03(ASSIGNED) Database: $fname should also be logged for BEGIN/COMMIT queries. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42598  +comment (10Krinkle)
[10:57:31] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Add option to apply nofollow only to external links added in revisions marked unpatrolled - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42599 enhancement; MediaWiki: Patrolling; (nathanlarson3141)
[10:58:24] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Mwjames; "Add SRF HTML5 Audio / Video media result printer" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34678
[11:01:16] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) [Regression] removeUnusedAccounts.php broken (uncommitted transaction) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42600 normal; MediaWiki: Maintenance scripts; (krinklemail)
[11:01:45] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) [Regression] removeUnusedAccounts.php broken (uncommitted transaction) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42600   +code-update-regression (10Krinkle)
[11:25:15] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Blog comment form should be protocol-relative - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37229  (10Guillaume Paumier)
[11:29:41] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Liangent; "Not so sure whether that namespace=0&prefix= means all content namespaces is a good idea or not..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35626
[11:29:59] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) deleteOldRevisions.php: SQL syntax error: "WHERE page_id IN ()" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42601 trivial; MediaWiki: Maintenance scripts; (krinklemail)
[11:39:13] <wizardist>	 liangent: ping
[11:41:25] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) rebuildrecentchanges should not generate entries for rc-suppressing log events (e.g. patrol) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/18364  summary; +comment (10Krinkle)
[11:41:51] <wizardist>	 I'm keeping content namespaces if namespace=0, per our discussion yesterday.
[11:42:16] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) rebuildrecentchanges should not generate entries for rc-suppressing log events (e.g. patrol) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/18364  +comment (10Krinkle)
[11:43:20] <liangent>	 wizardist: it's ok. I remember I also said "I'm not sure" yesterday
[11:44:13] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Wizardist; "(Bug 10049) Prefix index search and namespaces in Special:Withoutinterwiki" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35626
[11:48:35] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Krinkle; "mediawiki.Uri: Update doc comments." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35658
[11:49:16] <Axelei>	 hello
[11:49:16] <gerrit-wm>	 Change abandoned: Krinkle; "(no reason)" [test/mediawiki/core2] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35785
[11:49:49] <Axelei>	 had someone updated to 1.20 and had this problem? Argument 2 passed to CLDRPluralRuleEvaluator::evaluateCompiled() must be an array
[11:52:52] <Axelei>	 called in /home/fpedia/public_html/languages/Language.php on line 4229 and defined in /home/fpedia/public_html/languages/utils/CLDRPluralRuleEvaluator.php on line 49
[11:54:42] <wizardist>	 damn
[11:55:31] <wizardist>	 liangent: I'm so sorry :)
[11:55:38] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Wizardist; "(Bug 10049) Prefix index search and namespaces in Special:Withoutinterwiki" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35626
[11:58:01] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Javascript is broken on Special:Ask - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42602 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; (niklas.laxstrom)
[11:58:01] <liangent>	 wizardist: I guess you thought about using an empty 'action' at some time?
[11:58:44] <wizardist>	 nope, I thought that global statement wasn't needed (didn't notice use of $wgScript further in code)
[12:02:47] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Nikerabbit; "(bug 42602) JavaScript is broken on Special:Ask" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36347
[12:03:11] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Javascript is broken on Special:Ask - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42602  +comment (10Niklas Laxström)
[12:04:57] <Vulpix>	 Do I need some sort of special permission to push a change on an extension?
[12:06:02] <Vulpix>	 oh, wait
[12:07:45] <factor>	 Dies mediakwiki template logic code have a compiler fromsomething sane. 
[12:07:49] <factor>	 does^
[12:10:01] <azi`>	 is there a way for numbering to display the previous "subnumber" for example # foo ## foo bar to render as 1. foo  1.1 foo bar ?
[12:10:16] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Make AbuseFilter aware of Wikibase content models. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42064  (10jeblad)
[12:11:04] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Remove Special:QueryCreator - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42603 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; (niklas.laxstrom)
[12:14:51] <Vulpix>	 azi`: you can use CSS. http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/generate.html#scope  You can then put the CSS code in http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Interface/CSS
[12:15:03] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) UploadWizard doesn't highlight errors in "more info" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32408  +comment (10Lupo)
[12:25:02] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Mwjames; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36347
[12:26:17] <wikibugs>	 03(FIXED) Javascript is broken on Special:Ask - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42602  +comment (10MWJames)
[12:26:35] <bootinfdsds>	 Hi Peeps Anyone wanna hangout this morning ? https://diasp.eu/posts/738249
[12:27:41] <azi`>	 Vulpix: great thanks!
[12:49:52] <eptalon>	 hello there
[12:50:21] <eptalon>	 I want a test wiki
[12:50:53] <eptalon>	 what do I do, who do I need to nudge?
[12:51:02] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Narayam is not working with hotcat, reftoolbar etc. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41766  +comment (10Nasir Khan Saikat)
[12:56:27] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Maximum execution time exceeded: Levenshtein too slow we guess... - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41208  04CRIT->normal (10Niklas Laxström)
[12:56:51] <SuchetaG>	 Why am I getting fatal: ' 'gerrit' does not appear to be a git repository ' while doing git fetch gerrit refs/notes/commits:refs/notes/commits?
[12:59:19] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Nikerabbit; "(bug 42536) Exception in Special:Translations" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36348
[12:59:49] <wikibugs>	 03(FIXED) Language::isValidBuiltInCode must be passed a string, boolean given in Special:Translations - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42536  +comment (10Niklas Laxström)
[13:00:49] <Vulpix>	 SuchetaG: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Workflow#Using_a_.22gerrit.22_remote_consistently
[13:01:33] <wikibugs>	 03(FIXED) Bundling of external dependencies - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40699  +comment (10Niklas Laxström)
[13:02:02] <SuchetaG>	 Vulpix : i am following that only. But before that, just after cloning it gives that error.
[13:02:56] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Caret irregularly moves when the text area automatically expands in Translate extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37589  +comment (10Niklas Laxström)
[13:03:13] <Vulpix>	 I'm still a git newbie, so I can't help you further on this :(
[13:06:09] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Martineznovo; "(bug 25072) Fix weirdness in collapse threads" [mediawiki/extensions/LiquidThreads] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36349
[13:10:05] <wikibugs>	 03(ASSIGNED) Weirdness in collapsed threads - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/25072  +comment (10Jesús Martínez Novo (Ciencia Al Poder))
[13:31:20] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) JavaScript on all Wikimedia sites fails on Opera due to faulty browser detection code in $.client - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42604 normal; MediaWiki: JavaScript; (matma.rex)
[13:32:25] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Redirect on mobile browser drops https - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42605 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend; (cesarb)
[13:35:56] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Matmarex; "(bug 42604) fix faulty browser detection code for Opera" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36350
[13:37:11] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) JavaScript on all Wikimedia sites fails on Opera due to faulty browser detection code in $.client - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42604  +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[14:04:51] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Umherirrender; "Add some __METHOD__ to begin/commit/rollback calls" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36351
[14:05:50] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) UploadWizard doesn't highlight errors in "more info" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32408  +comment (10Nischay Nahata)
[14:06:09] <RoyTek>	 Hellp. can somebody help me?
[14:06:15] <RoyTek>	 hello*
[14:06:26] <MatmaRex>	 !ask | RoyTek
[14:06:26] <wm-bot>	  RoyTek: Hi, how can we help you? Just ask your question.
[14:07:37] <RoyTek>	 Thank you. I would like to have an mechaniesm that gives a user a right if he register from a certain ip adress. Is it possible?
[14:08:11] <MatmaRex>	 hm, you'd probably have to write an extension for this.
[14:09:09] <RoyTek>	 Yeah I expected to get this answer :) but what is a line that gives a user a right?
[14:10:42] <MatmaRex>	 RoyTek: it might be somewhat more complicated than that, as in MW all user rights changes are logged, and have to be performed by someone
[14:10:50] <MatmaRex>	 (logged on [[special:log]])
[14:11:23] <DanielFriesen>	 Not if it's done using autopromote
[14:11:35] <DanielFriesen>	 Though I can't remember if we have an IP check there
[14:11:48] <RoyTek>	 Oh I see. Can you explain how can it work?
[14:11:55] <MatmaRex>	 RoyTek: hm, actually
[14:12:07] <MatmaRex>	 RoyTek: it looks like what you want is possible in vanilla mediawiki :) https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgAutopromote
[14:12:12] <DanielFriesen>	 Yup, we do
[14:12:16] <MatmaRex>	 look for APCOND_ISIP
[14:12:17] <saper>	 MatmaRex: there are implicit groups and, worse, autopromotion :)
[14:12:40] <RoyTek>	 I will, thank you
[14:13:07] <MatmaRex>	 RoyTek: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgAutopromote should solve your issue, unless i misunderstood something, so disregard what i said earlier :)
[14:13:46] <RoyTek>	 I think it is! thanks :)
[14:15:00] <DanielFriesen>	 $wgAutopromote['foogroup'] = array( APCOND_ISIP, '...' );
[14:15:12] <DanielFriesen>	 Unless you need a wrapper array
[14:15:30] <DanielFriesen>	 Docs don't talk about one condition, no operators, but with params.
[14:17:49] <RoyTek>	 and how can I get the user's ip?
[14:18:08] <RoyTek>	 and where should I put this code? LocalSettings.php ?
[14:19:31] <MatmaRex>	 RoyTek: well, you already know that "certain IP address" your users use? just put it in place of ... in DanielFriesen's code
[14:19:39] <MatmaRex>	 and yes, it should go in LocalSettings
[14:20:21] <RoyTek>	 Great, so it should go like that: $wgAutopromote['ip adress'] = array( APCOND_ISIP, '...' ); ?
[14:21:29] <RoyTek>	 Is it safe allthought?
[14:21:36] <RoyTek>	 althought*
[14:24:46] <MatmaRex>	 RoyTek: no, more like $wgAutopromote['foogroup'] = array( APCOND_ISIP, '0.0.0.0' );
[14:24:56] <MatmaRex>	 !groups
[14:24:56] <wm-bot>	 For information on customizing user access, see < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:User_rights >. For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access >.
[14:24:58] <RoyTek>	 I get it
[14:25:05] <MatmaRex>	 see this about the groups
[14:25:31] <MatmaRex>	 you assign users to groups, and these groups have certain rights. you can't directly access rights to users, only through a group.
[14:26:03] <RoyTek>	 So like this: $wgAutopromote['schoolstudent'] = array( APCOND_ISIP, '82.80.196.44' );
[14:26:18] <RoyTek>	 there's already a group called "schoolstudent
[14:26:19] <RoyTek>	 "
[14:27:26] <MatmaRex>	 probably should work
[14:27:27] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Alex Monk; "(bug 12518) Cross-wiki user rights UI should show target wiki groups instead of local" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36330
[14:27:31] <MatmaRex>	 just test it ;)
[14:27:33] <RoyTek>	 And i want to give this right only if the user from the ip adress has already registered. What should I change?
[14:27:52] <DanielFriesen>	 'already registered'?
[14:28:02] <MatmaRex>	 it's not possible to assign anonymous users to groups anyway
[14:28:06] <MatmaRex>	 (as far as i know)
[14:28:49] <RoyTek>	 I will, but I can't test it right now because this is school's ip aderess :)
[14:29:00] <RoyTek>	 Great!
[14:29:42] <MatmaRex>	 test with a different address, e.g. yours :P
[14:29:54] <Krenair>	 ^ Am looking for reviewers on that change
[14:29:58] <RoyTek>	 :P
[14:30:26] <RoyTek>	 I'm stupid :) thanks anyway :)
[14:30:59] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Wikibugs does not always report the real name instead of e-mail prefix when reporting on IRC - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/18831  +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[14:31:17] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) add info if langlink is stored at repository or local - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41345  (10jeblad)
[14:32:58] <MatmaRex>	 Krenair: well i'm looking for reviewers on https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/36350/1 , which is fixing a  bug that causes JS not to run on live pages right now for me, and none of us are going to get any because it's weekend, hooray! ;)
[14:33:32] <MatmaRex>	 (i'm looking at yours, but i don't know PHP or MW internals well enough to review that :( )
[14:36:37] <Vulpix>	 spam: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/66.30.96.212
[14:37:02] <Krenair>	 MatmaRex, I just make the target DB get passed around to a bunch of places and fix the getAllGroups and changeableGroups functions to use wgConf
[14:37:06] <RoyTek>	 The right disapperes a soon as I'm out of the ip adres, what should I do ?
[14:37:21] <Krenair>	 Instead of accessing globals directly (Which will be the local groups obviously)
[14:37:34] <RoyTek>	 address*
[14:39:58] <MatmaRex>	 RoyTek: that's weird. is the autopromotion shown in the log?
[14:40:08] <MatmaRex>	 ([[special:log]] on your wiki, somewhere)
[14:42:03] <RoyTek>	 I don't know :P
[14:42:30] <RoyTek>	 It doesn't grant the right to the user, it's just acts like the user has it if he is connected from the ip address
[14:42:58] <DanielFriesen>	 ...that's pretty much how autopromote works
[14:43:03] <Vulpix>	 ^
[14:44:10] <RoyTek>	 So its not what i want, is there any way to grant the right to the user if he has registered from a certain ip address? The email confirms action grants the right...
[14:46:07] <DanielFriesen>	 You'd have to write some code
[14:47:26] <DanielFriesen>	 If you really want to do it on emailconfirm we have a ConfirmEmailComplete hook
[14:47:35] <RoyTek>	 pity
[14:48:51] <RoyTek>	 No, I want to grant a right permanently to a user if he registers from a certain ip address, and I don't know how to write code for it
[14:50:02] <DanielFriesen>	 RoyTek: Then what do you mean by "The email confirms action grants the right..."?
[14:51:36] <RoyTek>	 The auto promt doesn't give the user. When the user is connected from the certain ip address it's act like he has the right but when i check he doesn't have it and as soon as he moves to another ip address the right dissappers
[14:52:44] <RoyTek>	 and the email confirms action actually grant the right permanetly - it won't go away as soon as he moves to another ip address and when you will check the system would say that that user has the right
[14:53:49] <Vulpix>	 RoyTek: if the user changes the email and it remains unconfirmed, it should have the emailconfirm right dropped as well
[14:54:40] <RoyTek>	 no no no i am not talking about the emaill confirmed action i just gave it as an example
[14:54:54] <RoyTek>	 to what i want
[14:55:02] <DanielFriesen>	 $wgHooks['AddNewAccount'][] = function( User $user ) { $request = RequestContext::getMain()->getRequest(); /* No context here */ if ( $request->getIP() == '0.0.0.0' ) { $user->addGroup( 'studentgroup' ); } return true; };
[14:55:49] <RoyTek>	 Great! thanks
[14:59:05] <RoyTek>	 I tried to run it but there was an error: Parse error: syntax error, unexpected T_DNUMBER in /mnt/ms/home/web/u00008/html/wiki/LocalSettings.php on line 203
[15:00:49] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Warn that patches should go to Gerrit instead of Bugzilla - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42606 enhancement; Wikimedia: Bugzilla; (aklapper)
[15:27:05] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Alex Monk; "trivial code style issue" [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36342
[15:39:21] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Warn that patches should go to Gerrit instead of Bugzilla - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42606  +comment (10MZMcBride)
[15:45:52] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Warn that patches should go to Gerrit instead of Bugzilla - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42606  +comment (10Krenair)
[15:47:09] <Krenair>	 RoyTek, still not working?
[15:47:51] <RoyTek>	 Still not working
[15:48:01] <RoyTek>	 Fatal error: Call to undefined method WebRequest::getIP() in /mnt/ms/home/web/u00008/html/wiki/LocalSettings.php on line 204
[15:48:08] <RoyTek>	 Because of this
[15:48:42] <Krenair>	 What version of MW are you running?
[15:49:44] <RoyTek>	 How can I check?
[15:49:55] <Krenair>	 Go to Special:Version
[15:50:23] <Nikerabbit>	 Krenair: lol
[15:50:34] <Krenair>	 Nikerabbit?
[15:50:35] <Nikerabbit>	 you think that works?
[15:51:10] <Krenair>	 DanielFriesen's AddNewAccount code for RoyTek?
[15:51:25] <Krenair>	 I don't know, I haven't tested it
[15:51:37] <RoyTek>	 1.18.1
[15:51:43] <Krenair>	 Try this then: $wgHooks['AddNewAccount'][] = function( User $user ) { if ( wfGetIP() == '0.0.0.0' ) { $user->addGroup( 'studentgroup' ); } return true; };
[15:52:10] <RoyTek>	 thanks
[15:52:27] <Krenair>	 And I seriously suggest that you upgrade
[15:53:21] <RoyTek>	 I'll try
[15:53:32] <Krenair>	 1.18.2, 1.18.4, 1.18.5 and 1.18.6 were all security releases
[15:53:36] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Warn that patches should go to Gerrit instead of Bugzilla - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42606  +comment (10MZMcBride)
[15:54:42] <Susan>	 Krenair: I think if we implement a warning for patches, we'll also need a warning about the awfulness of Gerrit somewhere.
[15:55:02] <Susan>	 "Don't submit your patch here, try this labyrinth instead."
[15:56:20] <Krenair>	 I suggest you say that on the bug
[15:56:37] <Susan>	 Heh.
[15:57:12] <Krenair>	 RoyTek, so that version has 15 security issues which have since been fixed
[15:57:18] <MatmaRex>	 gerrit sucks particularly because you have to apply for an account and wait to have it created
[15:57:27] <Susan>	 Right.
[15:57:38] <Susan>	 The lack of self-registration seems like a blocker to resolving that bug.
[15:58:21] <MatmaRex>	 also, uh, Susan? what's up with the nick?
[15:58:41] <Krenair>	 It's Brooke/MZMcBride
[15:58:42] <Susan>	 It was time for a change, clearly.
[15:58:48] <Susan>	 Who's Brooke?
[15:59:07] <MatmaRex>	 Krenair: i know, that's why i'm asking. :)
[15:59:20] <RoyTek>	 I'm not inchrage on the MediaWiki version, I've sent an email about it to the right person, thanks for the heads up.
[15:59:38] <Susan>	 MatmaRex: Can't stay with the same nick for too long!
[16:01:35] <RoyTek>	 It worked!!! thanks to everyone who've helped me!
[16:01:43] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Warn that patches should go to Gerrit instead of Bugzilla - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42606  +comment (10MZMcBride)
[16:01:57] <Susan>	 There, I commented.
[16:02:51] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Nikerabbit; "Fixing typo" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36352
[16:41:31] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Nikerabbit; "Nice catch. Wouldn't the code be shorter if the regexp was /\s/|$/" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36346
[16:42:20] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36352
[16:43:07] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Nikerabbit; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35658
[16:46:24] <Isarra>	 When I try to git review, it says 'No changes between HEAD and gerrit/master.'
[16:46:49] <Isarra>	 I changed a bunch of files to links. How do I get it to recognise this?
[16:48:10] <Krenair>	 Isarra, are you sure you committed?
[16:48:27] <Krenair>	 run 'git status' to make sure
[16:48:38] <Isarra>	 Git status shows nothing.
[16:49:06] <Isarra>	 It was an update to an existing commit, though...
[16:49:14] <Krenair>	 You did commit --amend?
[16:49:25] <Isarra>	 Yes.
[16:50:02] <Krenair>	 Can you run git show HEAD and PM me the output? I'm interested to know what this is about
[16:50:23] <Krenair>	 or just git log -n 1
[16:52:24] <Isarra>	 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/36105/
[16:52:27] <wikibugs>	 14(INVALID) HTTPS Connection Close for login via API for Commons Wiki with IE user agent - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42129  +comment (10Smallman)
[16:52:50] <Isarra>	 Krenair: Link work?
[16:53:04] <factor>	 In PHP how do I get page name
[16:53:05] <mutante>	 Isarra: guess it sounds like you may have to "git add *" after changing files to links
[16:53:09] <Isarra>	 That's what it is currently. I want to update it per Krinkle's thing.
[16:53:19] <Isarra>	 I did.
[16:53:39] <Krenair>	 Isarra, yeah. run git log -n 1 and tell me what the commit hash is
[16:54:08] <factor>	 ok I got it
[16:54:15] <Isarra>	 commit 81bbe75e29cb77f5dcd3f104b51bd11872fa95c7
[16:54:22] <Isarra>	 Wait, what?
[16:54:56] <Isarra>	 Change-Id: I0d721dc0ad47f916d2a4ee8f4b798bf4904bc841
[16:55:16] <Isarra>	 What does all this mean?
[16:55:58] <Krenair>	 that's the change-id of https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/36105/
[16:55:58] <factor>	 How can I get the last  / path data 
[16:56:23] <factor>	 since mediawiki templates suck  , having to make a ext. to do it
[16:56:27] <Isarra>	 Weird.
[16:56:28] <Krenair>	 so when you amend the commit (and thus get a new commit hash) it still knows which change to upload your patchset to
[16:56:37] <factor>	 need to get the /en /it /de from the path
[16:56:42] <mutante>	 you can use !change <the short number> | <some nick>   
[16:56:53] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Nemo bis; "(bug 42536) Exception in Special:Translations" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36348
[16:57:57] <mutante>	 it would be odd if changing files to links turns out to be a problem, because we hated svn for having an issue with it :p
[16:58:16] <Isarra>	 O_o
[16:58:39] <MatmaRex>	 : git certainly does support committing files as links to other files
[16:58:51] <MatmaRex>	 we have a README.mediawiki in mediawiki/core right now
[16:59:03] <MatmaRex>	 that links to README
[16:59:09] <Isarra>	 But the files are currently there as files - depending on how it looks, it very well may not see the difference between those and links to the same.
[16:59:14] <Krenair>	 Yeah, I had no problem when making README.mediawiki
[16:59:14] <MatmaRex>	 so, Isarra, there must be something wrong locally
[16:59:26] <Isarra>	 So what?
[16:59:29] <Isarra>	 How do I fix it?
[16:59:42] <Krenair>	 Can you pastebin the full output of git review?
[17:00:54] <Isarra>	 It just asks for my passphrase and then this:
[17:00:57] <Isarra>	 No changes between HEAD and gerrit/master.
[17:00:58] <Isarra>	 Submitting for review would be pointless.
[17:01:00] <Isarra>	 That's it.
[17:01:31] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "You sure this works with 1.17? Would suck to break compat just before release after we're done effor..." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36347
[17:01:38] <MatmaRex>	 Isarra: that might be just git-review being a pile of poo
[17:01:45] <Vulpix>	 lol
[17:01:46] <Krenair>	 There is another way to do it
[17:01:49] <Isarra>	 >.<
[17:01:49] <MatmaRex>	 Isarra: have you tried the manual way? git push refs/for/somehting
[17:01:58] <MatmaRex>	 it's documented somewhere
[17:02:01] <Isarra>	 Erp, how... what...
[17:02:04] <MatmaRex>	 i don't remember the exact invocation
[17:02:26] <Krenair>	 'git push origin HEAD:refs/heads/master' I think?
[17:03:02] <Krenair>	 Oh, 'for', not 'heads'
[17:03:10] <mutante>	 there has been a new update of git review , btw
[17:03:13] <Krenair>	 So 'git push origin HEAD:refs/for/master'
[17:03:16] <Krenair>	 mutante, I know, and it's broken
[17:03:24] <mutante>	 need to use that pip stuff to update :p..oops, ok, wfm
[17:03:54] <Krenair>	 It runs into an exception while updating
[17:04:33] <mutante>	 maybe "pip" itself has an update? sigh
[17:05:18] <SuchetaG>	 Hi Isarra, even I am having a same kind of problem.
[17:05:25] <Isarra>	 Krenair: I think that worked.
[17:05:53] <Krenair>	 yep
[17:06:03] <Isarra>	 Thanks. >.<
[17:06:06] <Krenair>	 Wonder why git-review didn't
[17:06:07] <Isarra>	 That... was stupid.
[17:06:14] <Isarra>	 It probably followed the links.
[17:06:24] <Isarra>	 Because the thing they were linking to was all the same.
[17:06:38] <Krenair>	 https://bugs.launchpad.net/git-review/+bug/1046881 ?
[17:07:05] <Vulpix>	 you should use gerrit instead of origin https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/File:Origin_vs_gerrit_remotes.jpg
[17:07:21] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Nikerabbit; "I saw mw.config.get used later in the file so I don't expect any issues." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36347
[17:07:53] <Krenair>	 Vulpix, no thanks
[17:08:15] <Krenair>	 Would rather have origin than gerrit
[17:08:57] <Isarra>	 Is there any way to reply to a specific comment, or do you just have to manually add quotes like something out of the 80s?
[17:09:13] <Vulpix>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Workflow#Using_a_.22gerrit.22_remote_consistently
[17:10:55] <MatmaRex>	 Isarra: yup, quotes.
[17:11:06] <MatmaRex>	 Isarra: (you can only "reply" to inline comments)
[17:11:10] <ashley>	 Isarra: considering that you're talking about gerrit...you already know the answer
[17:11:25] <Isarra>	 MatmaRex: So you have to manually quote stuff, and it's nice enough to remove all the content, including other comments, when reviewing...
[17:11:30] <Krenair>	 Hang on a sec
[17:11:42] * Isarra  collapses into ashley's arms.

[17:12:07] <ashley>	 if the question is "does X suck in gerrit?" (where X is just about anything), no doubt that the answer is always "yes"
[17:12:08] <Krenair>	 Pip, why are you in python3's directory, trying to use python 2.7 syntax which is invalid on 3.2?
[17:12:20] <Krenair>	 That's why git-review update is failing...
[17:12:24] <Isarra>	 o__o
[17:12:27] <MatmaRex>	 Krenair: lol
[17:12:42] <MatmaRex>	 Krenair: why would you have two incompatible versions of anything installed simultaneously
[17:12:52] <MatmaRex>	 that's, like, asking for trouble
[17:12:56] <Isarra>	 Because it's python.
[17:13:05] <Vulpix>	 ^
[17:13:10] <Isarra>	 The new version is incompatible with the old, but most stuff still uses the old.
[17:13:10] <MatmaRex>	 python needs to get its shit together and move to version 3.
[17:13:24] <Isarra>	 MatmaRex: Thank you for volunteering to translate all the python2 code.
[17:13:31] <MatmaRex>	 <3
[17:13:53] <MatmaRex>	 i dunno, somehow the Ruby community managed to switch from 1.8 to 1.9, and mostly keep backwards compatibility even
[17:14:01] <MatmaRex>	 (and the differences are comparable, afaik)
[17:14:17] <ashley>	 python is like perl, except a bit saner. emphasis on the "a bit" part, not on the "saner"
[17:14:22] * ashley  hides

[17:14:23] <Isarra>	 Really not sure why they thought it a good idea to hurl backwards compatibility out the window, especially in such a widely used language...
[17:14:40] <Krenair>	 Sorry pip, turns out git-review was at fault.
[17:14:50] <MatmaRex>	 Isarra: probably to make things saner in the language?
[17:14:50] <Isarra>	 There's a shocker.
[17:14:54] <ashley>	 Isarra: they did it for the lulz
[17:14:56] <MatmaRex>	 like the print statement
[17:15:00] <Isarra>	 MatmaRex: It's *python*.
[17:15:00] <MatmaRex>	 who the heck invented that
[17:15:21] <Isarra>	 Personally I quite like the notion of print $ashley;
[17:15:21] <MatmaRex>	 honestly, one of the stupider language features i've ever heard of.
[17:15:34] <Isarra>	 print(ashley) just does not have the same ring.
[17:15:49] <MatmaRex>	 well, then what you want is having the parentheses optinal on your functins
[17:15:50] <ashley>	 echo $me; /* because */
[17:16:06] <MatmaRex>	 ashley: it's PHP, doesn't count
[17:16:19] <ashley>	 WORKSFORME NOTABUG
[17:16:20] <Isarra>	 Single parameter functions, why should there need to be parentheses?
[17:16:24] <Isarra>	 It's implicit.
[17:16:37] <Isarra>	 Hells, the comma should probably be enough anyway.
[17:16:45] <ashley>	 some people really do print( $stuff ); in PHP...boggles my mind why anyone would do that, though
[17:16:53] <Isarra>	 Habit, probably.
[17:17:21] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Warn that patches should go to Gerrit instead of Bugzilla - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42606  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[17:18:42] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) InstantCommons doesn't respect $wgHTTPProxy - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42196  +comment (10Raphael Eiselstein)
[17:19:56] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Customise Bugzilla front page to have more useful links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22170  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[17:20:39] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Customise Bugzilla front page to have more useful links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22170  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[17:24:43] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Warn that patches should go to Gerrit instead of Bugzilla - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42606  +comment (10Isarra)
[17:30:12] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Warn that patches should go to Gerrit instead of Bugzilla - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42606  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[17:34:48] <SuchetaG>	 Hi, could anyone tell me what exactly to do after editing the commit message? 
[17:35:25] <MatmaRex>	 SuchetaG: what are you trying to do? change the commit message of a change submitted to gerrit?
[17:35:45] <MatmaRex>	 SuchetaG: i assume you amended the commit and edited the message in this way?
[17:35:51] <MatmaRex>	 if you did, just run `git review` again
[17:36:35] <SuchetaG>	 No no. Not changing exactly. I am submitting it for the first time.
[17:36:44] <SuchetaG>	 Yeah 
[17:36:47] <SuchetaG>	 Did that
[17:37:56] <SuchetaG>	 MatmaRex: Actually, ' git rebase master ' says Cannot rebase: Your index contains uncommitted changes. Please commit or stash them.
[17:38:18] <SuchetaG>	 Confused :(
[17:38:32] <MatmaRex>	 SuchetaG: what does `git status` output?
[17:38:39] <MatmaRex>	 it should show you which files are midified
[17:38:42] <MatmaRex>	 modified*
[17:38:54] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Mwjames; "It works in 1.17. I really hope we can close the topic 1.17 soon, I'm starting to get tired of check..." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36347
[17:38:54] <SuchetaG>	 Yeah. It shows the modifed file.
[17:39:05] <MatmaRex>	 and you can use `git diff` to view unstaged changes, and `git diff --cached` to view uncommited but staged ones
[17:39:36] <SuchetaG>	 Yes yes. Have done that. Those work just fine.
[17:39:52] <MatmaRex>	 both diffs should be empty - if they arent, either commit the changes, or reset them
[17:40:16] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Tablesorter sorts all numbers as dates in Czech - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42607 normal; MediaWiki: JavaScript; (mormegil)
[17:40:18] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) tablesorter (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31601  (10Mormegil)
[17:40:28] <SuchetaG>	 both the difss should be empty?
[17:40:32] <SuchetaG>	 diffs*
[17:40:49] <SuchetaG>	 Aren't the supposed to show the changes?
[17:41:45] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) InstantCommons doesn't respect $wgHTTPProxy - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42196  +comment (10Raphael Eiselstein)
[17:42:21] <MatmaRex>	 SuchetaG: `git diff` and `git diff --cached` shown *uncommited* changes
[17:42:29] <MatmaRex>	 and you will probably want to commit or undo them
[17:42:43] <MatmaRex>	 SuchetaG: you can use `git diff <commit1> <commit2>` to view changes between two commits
[17:43:08] <MatmaRex>	 SuchetaG: for example, to see changes made in the last commit, use `git diff HEAD HEAD^`
[17:43:17] <Elecbullet>	 Does anyone know anything about the Chinese language in MediaWiki?
[17:44:37] <mutante>	 Elecbullet: i guess #wikipedia-zh might be worth a shot if you dont get other replies
[17:45:11] <Elecbullet>	 Yes, I have a chinese user on my Wikia wiki and a Chinese wiki
[17:45:27] <SuchetaG>	 MatmaRex: last commit made by me? 
[17:45:29] <Elecbullet>	 and apparently there are some nuances I should be aware of.
[17:45:54] <MatmaRex>	 SuchetaG: that would show any last commit, it might happen to be made by you :)
[17:46:04] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) tablesorter (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31601  (10Mormegil)
[17:46:05] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) [Tablesorter] Headers with rowspan should be considered for all rows - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38911  (10Mormegil)
[17:46:26] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Wikitable Sorting doesn't work properly in preview mode - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40638  (10Mormegil)
[17:46:26] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) tablesorter (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31601  (10Mormegil)
[17:46:30] <SuchetaG>	 I see. Because it aint showing my commit :P MatmaRex
[17:47:55] <MatmaRex>	 SuchetaG: well, that's not good :P does `git log --pretty=short` show it?
[17:48:21] <MatmaRex>	 if it doesn't, then either you didn't actually commit the changes, or you switched to a different branch afterwards
[17:48:30] <SuchetaG>	 ^^What an interesting command :D
[17:48:40] <MatmaRex>	 git log can do a lot of stuff
[17:48:57] <MatmaRex>	 i particularly like `git log --oneline --graph --decorate` :)
[17:49:09] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Diff navigation links are confusing for diffs between two different pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/2455  +comment (10Liangent)
[17:50:37] <SuchetaG>	 MatmaRex: OMG! Its actually shows so many commits :P
[17:51:19] <SuchetaG>	 Anyway. I guess I havent *commited* the changes properply :(
[17:53:04] <SuchetaG>	 I did git add < the file> then git status then git diff --cached and then git commit
[17:53:35] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Diff pages of archive pages contain some broken links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42608 normal; MediaWiki: History/Diffs; (liangent)
[17:53:55] <SuchetaG>	 Which redirected me to the commit message section. MatmaRex
[17:55:57] <Krenair>	 saper, hi... I tried to post here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/14273/1/git-review but it didn't work out correctly
[17:56:08] <Krenair>	 Please see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/17294/
[17:56:36] <MatmaRex>	 SuchetaG: well, it shows all of them, but should use a pager - you can use `git log | less` or something similar to page them
[17:56:52] <MatmaRex>	 SuchetaG: so, what does `git status` output, once again?
[17:57:09] <MatmaRex>	 and `git diff` / `git diff --cached`? only the changes you want to commit?
[17:58:39] <SuchetaG>	 MatmaRex: Okay git status has a line 'changes to be committed' :O
[17:58:58] <SuchetaG>	 I didnt notice that before
[18:00:08] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) InstantCommons doesn't respect $wgHTTPProxy - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42196  +comment (10Raphael Eiselstein)
[18:01:18] <therocketmaster>	 So, how do i fix JavaScript?
[18:01:46] <Vulpix>	 JavaScript is not broken. Maybe your code is
[18:01:53] <therocketmaster>	 The editing toolbar and stuff.
[18:02:18] <therocketmaster>	 Have a look: http://rocketpedia.uni.me
[18:02:32] <therocketmaster>	 What should i do?
[18:02:41] <SuchetaG>	 MatmaRex: I did git commit. Which takes me to the edit message section. What exactly am I supposed to do now? After adding the summary?
[18:03:41] <therocketmaster>	 How do i fix it? Tell me.
[18:04:03] <therocketmaster>	 It happened after a browser update.\
[18:05:05] <MatmaRex>	 SuchetaG: write whatever you want, then save and close the editor - git should resume committing
[18:05:23] <MatmaRex>	 (in git's default editor, vim, use ':wq' to save&exit)
[18:06:23] <valhallasw>	 MatmaRex: vim is not git's default editor, rather, git uses the system's default editor, `echo $EDITOR`
[18:06:46] <Vulpix>	 unless you install git on windows
[18:06:48] <MatmaRex>	 valhallasw: oh. well, the default for me on Windows was vim.
[18:06:53] <Vulpix>	 ^
[18:07:08] <MatmaRex>	 therocketmaster: i keep getting "your site is experiencing technical difficulties"
[18:07:14] <MatmaRex>	 therocketmaster: including on some load.php calls
[18:07:26] <MatmaRex>	 therocketmaster: which means that your scripts and styles are sometimes not loaded
[18:07:30] <shif>	 does interwiki linking support file links for things like images?
[18:07:32] <MatmaRex>	 therocketmaster: fix your hosting provider :/
[18:07:44] <therocketmaster>	 My host derps out sometimes.
[18:08:05] <shifuimam>	 therocketmaster: have you considered a VPS? much more reliable than regular hosting
[18:08:05] <SuchetaG>	 MatmaRex: How come :wq doesnt work but? :?
[18:08:08] <SuchetaG>	 :/
[18:08:18] <therocketmaster>	 VPS?
[18:08:26] <MatmaRex>	 therocketmaster: s/sometimes/usually/
[18:08:28] <shifuimam>	 virtual private server
[18:08:29] <therocketmaster>	 On my own computer?
[18:08:38] <MatmaRex>	 SuchetaG: sorry? i don't understand?
[18:08:41] <therocketmaster>	 Oh.
[18:08:43] <shifuimam>	 no, it's through a host, but it's a virtual server that you get to control 100%
[18:08:58] <shifuimam>	 so you can use linux or windows, whichever you prefer. gives you much more control, very stable, and cheap
[18:09:05] <shifuimam>	 my linode is only $20/mo
[18:09:08] <therocketmaster>	 Interesting.
[18:09:10] <SuchetaG>	 MatmaRex: :wq didn't work :(
[18:09:24] <therocketmaster>	 Any free ones?
[18:09:27] <shifuimam>	 hehe no
[18:09:45] <shifuimam>	 you might find something cheaper, but $20 is pretty great. 12GB storage, 200GB bandwidth, 512MB RAM
[18:09:59] <shifuimam>	 and linode does referrals, one referral gets you a free month of hosting ($20 credit)
[18:10:00] <valhallasw>	 shifuimam: of course the big disadvantage of that is /having to/ control it 100%
[18:10:16] <shifuimam>	 true
[18:10:43] <shifuimam>	 but it's good to learn IMO
[18:10:51] <Vulpix>	 therocketmaster: indeed, your hosting is giving database errors for load.php sometimes, maybe the database doesn't accept so many concurrent connections
[18:10:52] <shifuimam>	 it's pretty easy to get started - lots of info online
[18:11:04] <MatmaRex>	 SuchetaG: are you on windows? what is your editor?
[18:11:29] <SuchetaG>	 MatmaRex: I am on ubuntu !
[18:12:11] <MatmaRex>	 SuchetaG: then git might be launching a different editor
[18:12:25] <therocketmaster>	 I found ChunkHost.
[18:12:27] <elektryk91>	 hi, i have a question, i'm using ConfirmEdit on my wiki with ReCaptcha module but bots are stil able to register on my site. Is there any other way to register? For example using api?
[18:12:36] <MatmaRex>	 save the commit message, anyway, and exit the editor
[18:12:39] <MatmaRex>	 and the commit should resume
[18:12:53] <shifuimam>	 right, so my previous question - interwiki image linking y/n?
[18:12:58] <therocketmaster>	 I have to install everything on it myself?
[18:13:10] <shifuimam>	 yeah, but it's really, really easy
[18:13:18] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Request for determination: Adding user preferences via API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40124  +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[18:13:21] <shifuimam>	 linode sets up the basic VPS for you
[18:13:31] <shifuimam>	 so linux is already installed and ready to have you put whatever you need on it
[18:13:42] <shifuimam>	 getting apache, php, and mySQL installed is extremely simple
[18:14:00] <MatmaRex>	 elektryk91: there's no way to register via api right now
[18:14:05] <valhallasw>	 shifuimam: yes, and then 6 months later your server is rooted because of an SSH exploit
[18:14:14] <shifuimam>	 i've had a VPS for years. never been rooted once.
[18:14:18] <shifuimam>	 or compromised at all
[18:14:26] <MatmaRex>	 elektryk91: it's not impossible to break the captcha.
[18:14:32] <elektryk91>	 MatmaRex: so why bots can register on my wiki and pass recaptcha :C
[18:14:47] <SuchetaG>	 MatmaRex: How would I save it anyway? :/
[18:15:15] <MatmaRex>	 elektryk91: dunno, make sure the captcha is actually displayed and checked?
[18:15:26] <therocketmaster>	 But, do i have to install everything myself?
[18:15:31] <MatmaRex>	 SuchetaG: just save the file that was opened in whatever editor
[18:15:33] <elektryk91>	 yes, it is
[18:15:35] <shifuimam>	 yeah
[18:15:48] <therocketmaster>	 PHP, MySQL, Apache?
[18:15:52] <shifuimam>	 yep
[18:16:01] <shifuimam>	 but if you use something like ubuntu, it's as easy as running "apt-get install apache"
[18:16:02] <shifuimam>	 et.c
[18:16:04] <shifuimam>	 etc.*
[18:16:27] <elektryk91>	 what is the name of that special page where i can check version of MW?
[18:17:54] <elektryk91>	 ok, i find it
[18:17:58] <Vulpix>	 elektryk91: Special:Version
[18:18:13] <elektryk91>	 hm, maybe the probler is that i have version 1.17.0 of MW?
[18:18:14] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Re-enable FlaggedRev on en.wp - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42609 normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (alex_y_xu)
[18:18:50] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Re-enable FlaggedRev on en.wp - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42609  (10alex_y_xu)
[18:18:52] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) FlaggedRev installation requests (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29744  (10alex_y_xu)
[18:19:50] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Re-enable FlaggedRev on en.wp - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42609  +comment (10Krenair)
[18:20:38] <wikibugs>	 14(INVALID) Re-enable FlaggedRev on en.wp - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42609  (10Krenair)
[18:21:25] <Vulpix>	 elektryk91: sometimes spam isn't posted by bots, but by humans http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAPTCHA#Human_solvers
[18:22:33] <SuchetaG>	 After saving git review? MatmaRex?
[18:22:57] <elektryk91>	 Vulpix: so i will make question in my language to be answered
[18:23:11] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Request for determination: Adding user preferences via API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40124  +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[18:23:17] <MatmaRex>	 SuchetaG: uhh
[18:23:18] <elektryk91>	 (which is not the same language as the spam language)
[18:24:08] <MatmaRex>	 SuchetaG: i think i got lost now. :)
[18:25:05] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Re-enable FlaggedRev on en.wp - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42609  (10alex_y_xu)
[18:25:10] <MatmaRex>	 SuchetaG: i don't think i understand your problem :/ maybe something is obvious to me that isn't to you, and i'm missing it
[18:25:24] <MatmaRex>	 SuchetaG: what happens when you run `git commit` (without any options)?
[18:25:38] <shifuimam>	 right, so my previous question - interwiki image linking y/n?
[18:25:45] <shifuimam>	 it doens't seem like it's working..not sure what the syntax should be
[18:25:51] <Vulpix>	 elektryk91: then it should be easier to block edits that contain foreign language spam like this. See http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Spam#Edit_filtering
[18:26:06] <SuchetaG>	 MatmaRex: It goes to the edit message section
[18:26:16] <SuchetaG>	 Opens the editor
[18:26:36] <elektryk91>	 Vulpix: wow, i didn't know about this feature
[18:26:43] <MatmaRex>	 a GUI editor? or in the terminal window?
[18:26:51] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Alter HTML so that Wikipedia logo shows up in Facebook posts, instead of MediaWiki logo - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41510  +comment (10Pete F)
[18:27:19] <SuchetaG>	 terminal window. Its GNU nano 2.2.6
[18:27:38] <shifuimam>	 :(
[18:27:52] <MatmaRex>	 great. write something, then save and close (if i remember correctly, using Ctrl+X)
[18:28:12] <MatmaRex>	 shifuimam: it;s not obvious to me hwta you are trying to do
[18:28:19] <MatmaRex>	 what*
[18:28:29] <MatmaRex>	 interwiki links to anything should work
[18:28:46] <shifuimam>	 i'm running a wiki for my guild wars guild. i have interwiki linking to the official guild wars wiki (mw 1.6 i think?) working
[18:29:05] <MatmaRex>	 interwiki linking - that is, the links appearing in the sidebar? or just as regular links?
[18:29:07] <shifuimam>	 i'd like to be able to link to images on the official wiki for some stuff, instead of having to manually link to specific image URLs
[18:29:12] <shifuimam>	 regular links work fine
[18:29:25] <Krenair>	 1.6? wow
[18:29:26] <shifuimam>	 but i'd like to be able to actually display/embed images from the official wiki in my own
[18:29:33] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Special:UserRights broken in Mediawiki 1.20.1 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42592  (10Andre Klapper)
[18:29:36] <SuchetaG>	 MatmaRex: See, git status says: On branch usrsession # Changes to be committed: #   (use "git reset HEAD <file>..." to unstage) # #	modified:   ext.etherEditor.js #
[18:29:42] <shifuimam>	 my bad
[18:29:44] <shifuimam>	 1.16.5
[18:29:48] <shifuimam>	 http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Special:Version
[18:30:01] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Diff pages of archive pages contain some broken links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42608  (10Andre Klapper)
[18:30:52] <shifuimam>	 so for instance here: http://shifuimam.com/moop/wiki/User:Shifuimam/sandbox
[18:30:58] <shifuimam>	 even interwiki transclusion works. just ont images
[18:31:22] <shifuimam>	 the icons on the tabs are using the actual URL for the image on guild wars' site, not the mediawiki syntax
[18:31:32] <MatmaRex>	 SuchetaG: you can also provide the commit message on the command line, like this:
[18:31:34] <wikibugs>	 14(INVALID) fixDeprecatedAttributes should add a CSS class - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39613  +comment (10Umherirrender)
[18:31:54] <MatmaRex>	 SuchetaG: `git commit -m "First line of the mesasge" -m "Second line" -m "Etc..." `
[18:32:06] <MatmaRex>	 SuchetaG: but it's really weird that the regular way doesn't work for you :/
[18:32:22] <MatmaRex>	 i'm off for a while, back in 15 minutes
[18:33:17] <shifuimam>	 btw i've set it up to use "gw:" as my interwiki prefix
[18:34:14] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Re-enable FlaggedRev on en.wp - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42609  (10alex_y_xu)
[18:34:40] <SuchetaG>	 MatmaRex: git status is still showing the same :(
[18:35:55] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) ConfirmEdit bundled with MediaWiki 1.18.3 is incompatible with MediaWiki 1.18.3 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36311  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[18:36:10] <MatmaRex>	 SuchetaG: `git commit -a -m "..." ` ? (-a is the same as `git add`-ing all modified files)
[18:36:19] <MatmaRex>	 if this doesn't work, i have no idea what's happening
[18:36:33] <MatmaRex>	 i might be missing something obvious :(
[18:36:40] <MatmaRex>	 (afk for real)
[18:36:58] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Special:UserRights broken in Mediawiki 1.20.1 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42592  +comment (10Nemo)
[18:38:33] <shifuimam>	 so i can interwiki transclude the image except that the image doesn't transclude, just whatever text might be under it
[18:39:34] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Siebrand; "Please do not add the whole Language Engineering team as reviewer. They're not all developers and ab..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36124
[18:41:58] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: SuchetaG; "[PATCH](Bug 39441) Added tooltips to the icons for session and user lists" [mediawiki/extensions/EtherEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36355
[18:42:26] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Alex Monk; "(bug 12518) Cross-wiki user rights UI should show target wiki groups instead of local" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36330
[18:42:32] <Shar_HS>	 marktraceur, hey! I was wondering if you have a microtask I can work on for the OPW application?
[18:42:50] <SuchetaG>	 MatmaRex: Yay! See! It worked :D
[18:43:05] <SuchetaG>	 The regular way only :D
[18:43:38] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Special:UserRights broken in Mediawiki 1.20.1 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42592  +comment (10Krenair)
[18:46:03] <shifuimam>	 uhhhhhhhh....i have a file page for an image that isn't acutally hosted on my wiki
[18:46:07] <shifuimam>	 how did i do this?
[18:46:24] <shifuimam>	 http://shifuimam.com/moop/wiki/File:Althea%27s_Ashes_map.JPG
[18:48:50] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36348
[18:50:17] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Siebrand; "Update check blacklist" [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36356
[18:50:33] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Siebrand; [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36356
[18:51:00] <wikibugs>	 03(UNCONFIRMED) Special:UserRights broken in Mediawiki 1.20.1 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42592  (10Krenair)
[18:51:46] <Krenair>	 andre__, "Ever Confirmed" is misleading if it goes back to 0 when re-setting unconfirmed
[18:54:26] <andre__>	 Krenair, file a bug :) Though that sounds like an upstream issue.
[18:54:40] <andre__>	 nothing specific to our implementation, but Bugzilla in general
[18:57:15] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Siebrand; "Limit to 7 jobs instead of starting one every x time" [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36357
[18:58:34] <Elecbullet>	 I asked on #wikipedia-zh and nobody knew how to speak English, or at least answered.
[18:58:53] <Elecbullet>	 If nobody here can explain anything about operating a Chinese wiki to me, I may have to just rough it out.
[18:59:51] <liangent>	 !ask | Elecbullet
[18:59:52] <wm-bot>	  Elecbullet: Hi, how can we help you? Just ask your question.
[19:00:49] <Elecbullet>	 I am an English user on Wikia. I want to create a Chinese wiki for a user. There are specific tools for Chinese wikis and I don't understand any of them.
[19:02:05] <liangent>	 what are them? I guess most of them are about language conversion (variants)
[19:02:23] <liangent>	 btw wikia is not the same as a standard (standalone) mediawiki installation
[19:02:45] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Umherirrender; "Cange maxlength of Content::getTextForSummary from 250 to 255" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36358
[19:02:46] <liangent>	 Elecbullet: ^
[19:02:52] <Elecbullet>	 I know that much. There are buttons at the top of the page for variants of Chinese. But Wikia's default skin hides them all.
[19:03:29] <Vulpix>	 Elecbullet: go to preferences, and change your skin to monobook. And report the issue to Wikia staff
[19:03:33] <rgeiger>	 has anyone run into this error before: Strict Standards: date_default_timezone_get(): It is not safe to rely on the system's timezone settings. ?
[19:03:52] <shifuimam>	 how do you interwiki transclude an image that has a redirect on it?
[19:04:02] <shifuimam>	 if i transclude the image, it's transcluding the page it redirects to, not the image itself
[19:04:26] <Elecbullet>	 I use Monobook by default, Oasis is abysmally bad. I don't know that Wikia cares tremendously about Chinese users anyway.
[19:04:32] <liangent>	 shifuimam: what does your "transcluding an image" mean?
[19:04:34] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Umherirrender; "Change default maxlength of Content::getTextForSummary from 250 to 255" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36358
[19:04:58] <Elecbullet>	 If he prefers Mandarin I will instruct him just to write in Mandarin and leave it at that. That shouldn't be too bad.
[19:05:07] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Umherirrender; "Fixed typo in commit message" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36358
[19:05:22] <liangent>	 Elecbullet: then it's wikia's fault and we care Chinese users :)
[19:05:27] <MatmaRex>	 SuchetaG: i'm glad :)
[19:05:41] <liangent>	 and wikia is for-profit
[19:05:52] <shifuimam>	 liangent: example here: http://shifuimam.com/moop/wiki/User:Shifuimam/testing
[19:05:57] <Elecbullet>	 I know, I know. I'm a big user there. I don't approve of everything they do
[19:06:08] <shifuimam>	 i am using {{:gw:image:Abnormal_Seed.png}}
[19:06:37] <shifuimam>	 i want to transclude this file: http://wiki.guildwars.com/index.php?title=File:Abnormal_Seed.png&redirect=no
[19:06:42] <shifuimam>	 but it has a redirect on it
[19:07:00] <SuchetaG>	 MatmaRex: Now if I want to submit another commit? Same file.
[19:07:17] <MatmaRex>	 SuchetaG: do the same again :)
[19:07:25] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) UploadWizard doesn't highlight errors in "more info" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32408  +comment (10Lupo)
[19:07:38] <shifuimam>	 liangent: i apparently set up a foreign file repo to the guild wars wiki, so i can include some images just using [[image:$imagename]]
[19:07:45] <MatmaRex>	 SuchetaG: (do not amend, make a new commit)
[19:07:47] <shifuimam>	 but images with a redirect on them do NOT work
[19:08:05] <DanielFriesen>	 Elecbullet: You should try complaining to WIkia about that topic. Last discussion I had with them about an i18n topic they basically said they were thinking of removing support for Chinese variants.
[19:08:20] <liangent>	 shifuimam: I don't really understand what you want
[19:08:38] <shifuimam>	 ok, i am trying to embed images from wiki.guildwars.com into my own wiki
[19:08:45] <liangent>	 you're "transcluding an image page" instead of "using an image"
[19:09:08] <shifuimam>	 well, so i can use an image from wiki.guildwars.com like this: [[image:Abnormal_Seed.jpg]]
[19:09:22] <shifuimam>	 i believe this is because i have a foreign file repo set up to guild wars' wiki. however, the above doesn't work if the image has a redirect on it
[19:09:31] <rgeiger>	 I am trying to use the API for editing but I am getting an this error: Fatal error: Call-time pass-by-reference has been removed in /extensions/WikiObjectModel/includes/apis/WOM_OutputProcessor.php on line 107... any ideas what i am doing wrong?
[19:09:50] <SuchetaG>	 MatmaRex:  Yeah. , but now when i am trying to add the file here, it says nothing to commit.  
[19:09:51] <liangent>	 ok [[image:Abnormal_Seed.jpg]] should be working I think
[19:09:51] <shifuimam>	 so if you look at this image on my own wiki: http://shifuimam.com/moop/wiki/File:Abnormal_Seed.jpg --- this is actually an image hosted on guild wars' wiki
[19:09:56] <shifuimam>	 it does
[19:10:16] <shifuimam>	 but, for example, there's another image i want to link to, called Abnormal_Seed.png --- this file exists on the GW wiki
[19:10:20] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Siebrand; "Limit to 10 jobs instead of starting one every x time" [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36357
[19:10:28] <shifuimam>	 however it has a redirect set up so that you can't access the image's file page directly
[19:10:31] <shifuimam>	 so it doesn't work
[19:10:40] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Siebrand; [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36357
[19:10:44] <shifuimam>	 this is the image i am trying to use: http://wiki.guildwars.com/index.php?title=File:Abnormal_Seed.png&redirect=no
[19:10:47] <Vulpix>	 rgeiger: about the strict standards error, put the following in LocalSettings.php (or replace the line that contains something similar):
[19:10:48] <Vulpix>	 error_reporting(E_ERROR | E_WARNING | E_PARSE);
[19:10:51] <Elecbullet>	 Well Daniel, you can "Create a free wiki" for some 200 languages so at least, statistically, there are probably languages less supported than Chinese.
[19:10:52] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: MarkAHershberger; "I'd like to see multiple cases, those that are expected to work as well as those expected to fail, b..." [wikimedia/bugzilla/modifications] (master) C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33747
[19:11:11] <liangent>	 shifuimam: so what do you want to see on http://shifuimam.com/moop/wiki/User:Shifuimam/testing
[19:11:22] <shifuimam>	 i want to see the image at http://wiki.guildwars.com/index.php?title=File:Abnormal_Seed.png&redirect=no
[19:11:28] <rgeiger>	 vulpix: ok, one sec
[19:11:39] <liangent>	 so it's http://wiki.guildwars.com/images/c/c7/Abnormal_Seed.png right?
[19:11:41] <shifuimam>	 if you go to http://wiki.guildwars.com/File:Abnormal_Seed.png it just redirects to the item page
[19:11:51] <shifuimam>	 yeah. but i'd like to link to it witout needing the explicit full URL for the image
[19:11:52] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Umherirrender; "Trim spaces on user supplied comments" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36359
[19:12:15] <shifuimam>	 this is for a page with a list of items, so if i can link to it using wikimarkup i can make a template to easily link to each image based on the item name
[19:12:18] <liangent>	 then what if you type [[image:Abnormal_Seed.jpg]] on http://shifuimam.com/moop/wiki/User:Shifuimam/testing
[19:12:40] <shifuimam>	 that works - reload the page
[19:12:42] <shifuimam>	 the image is there
[19:12:51] <liangent>	 so isn't this what you need?
[19:12:55] <shifuimam>	 no :(
[19:13:02] <shifuimam>	 the images i'm trying to link to are all set up with redirets
[19:13:14] <shifuimam>	 for instance, go here: http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/File:Copper_Crimson_Skull_Coin.png
[19:13:33] <shifuimam>	 i want to show that image (the coin on the upper right corner of the page) on my testing page
[19:13:52] <rgeiger>	 vulpix: alright, it doesn't show the error anymore
[19:14:12] <liangent>	 what's the different besides being scaled down?
[19:14:26] <shifuimam>	 well, a lot of the images i wnat to link to don't have a version that isn't redirecting
[19:14:31] <shifuimam>	 like the coin on that page. that's the only image of it
[19:14:48] <shifuimam>	 if [[image:Abnormal_Seed.jpg]] works, then you would think that, say, [[image:Copper_Crimson_Skull_Coin.png]]
[19:14:48] <shifuimam>	  should work
[19:14:51] <shifuimam>	 but it doesn't
[19:15:09] <DanielFriesen>	 rgeiger: WOM isn't very well maintained
[19:15:11] <shifuimam>	 refresh my test page - you'll see it points to a file that doesn't exist
[19:16:11] <rgeiger>	 danielfriesen: does that mean API edit doesn't work?
[19:16:32] <DanielFriesen>	 rgeiger: eh?
[19:16:47] <DanielFriesen>	 We have a perfectly good edit api that has nothing to do with WOM
[19:17:22] <liangent>	 really.. how is your foreign repo configured?
[19:17:33] <rgeiger>	 i am trying to use the API edit but that is the error i am getting
[19:17:38] <azi`>	 i can't recall... what is the name of the scripts that dumps the wiki into xml?
[19:17:55] <shifuimam>	 liangent: https://gist.github.com/4184262
[19:18:07] <DanielFriesen>	 rgeiger: That's because WOM isn't well maintained and has incorrect code that causes PHP to spew messages
[19:19:11] <rgeiger>	 ok, i'll try to disable it and see if my editing script works
[19:19:20] <Vulpix>	 someone forgot to bump the MediaWiki version release :P
[19:19:37] <DanielFriesen>	 Vulpix: where?
[19:19:45] <Vulpix>	 the topic of this channel
[19:20:02] <shifuimam>	 liangent: am i missing an option in there?
[19:20:03] <DanielFriesen>	 Ah, security release
[19:20:12] <DanielFriesen>	 riiiiight... I need to apply that to a few wikis
[19:20:28] <liangent>	 shifuimam: I doubt it might be a bug
[19:21:19] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Edits before page moves are shown in unexpected places in the watchlist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41033  +comment (10Umherirrender)
[19:21:47] <shifuimam>	 well, crap
[19:23:23] <shifuimam>	 it's definitely the redirect portion that's causing a problem
[19:23:53] <shifuimam>	 if you refresh my test page, the coin shows up now. i removed the redirect from the guild wars image page to see what would happen
[19:25:02] <liangent>	 shifuimam: because we allow file redirecting to another file and in this case the target file is displayed...
[19:25:15] <liangent>	 but when the target is not a file... I don't know what should happen
[19:26:00] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Text layer of DjVu files doesn't appear in Page namespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42466  major->04CRIT; +comment (10Philippe Elie)
[19:26:01] <shifuimam>	 well, crap
[19:35:04] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Request for new Analytics components in Bugzilla - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42088  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[19:35:22] <shifuimam>	 liangent: is there any way with wikimarkup to get the full URL of an image?
[19:35:29] <Krenair>	 mutante, fixed that git-review issue I mentioned earlier and got it merged upstream
[19:35:44] <Krenair>	 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/17294/
[19:38:35] <liangent>	 shifuimam: {{filepath: filename.jpg }}
[19:39:05] <liangent>	 but not sure whether it also fails for foreign api file with a redirect to non-file...
[19:40:16] <shifuimam>	 what should that syntax output?
[19:41:36] <liangent>	 shifuimam: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Magic_words#URL_data
[19:42:43] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) InstantCommons doesn't respect $wgHTTPProxy - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42196  +comment (10Raphael Eiselstein)
[19:44:45] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Text layer of DjVu files doesn't appear in Page namespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42466  04CRIT->major; +comment (10Doug)
[19:45:55] <shifuimam>	 hmm. filepath doesn't even work for images i've uploaded myself..
[19:46:39] <shifuimam>	 nevermind, i'm retarded
[19:49:03] <shifuimam>	 yep, it would appear that the redirect breaks the ability to get the file path
[19:49:05] <shifuimam>	 this is REALLY annoying
[19:49:12] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) ForeignAPIRepo should ignore file redirects to non-file - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42610 normal; MediaWiki: File management; (liangent)
[19:49:24] <shifuimam>	 FWIW, filepath does work for images via foreign API repo that do not have a redirect
[19:51:23] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Superfluous newlines added in PythonSingleFFS - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42611 major; MediaWiki extensions: Translate; (s.mazeland)
[19:51:41] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Umherirrender; "(bug 37263) better handling of minor/bot in enhanced changelist" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36360
[19:53:31] <wikibugs>	 03(ASSIGNED) Enhanced watchlist shows inconsistent behavior when showing "minor" and "bot" flag for multiple changes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37263   +patch-in-gerrit; +comment (10Umherirrender)
[19:53:46] <liangent>	 shifuimam: yeah see bug 42610 I filed above
[19:54:00] <shifuimam>	 oh i blocked the bots in this channel. too much noise :P
[19:54:32] <shifuimam>	 found it - thanks!
[19:55:40] <factor>	 How can I get the the base url page id from PHP ext coding
[19:55:41] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) [EmbedVideo] Fatal error: Class 'Hmtl' not found in EmbedVideo.hooks.php on line 119 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36845  +comment (10Umherirrender)
[19:56:22] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) PythonSingleFFS does not observe codeMap - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42612 major; MediaWiki extensions: Translate; (s.mazeland)
[19:58:08] <rgeiger>	 Vulpix: i am still having trouble with the Strict Standard... is there a fix for it?
[19:58:47] <rgeiger>	 Strict Standards: date_default_timezone_get(): It is not safe to rely on the system's timezone settings. You are *required* to use the date.timezone setting or the date_default_timezone_set() function.
[19:59:05] <rgeiger>	 In case you used any of those methods and you are still getting this warning, you most likely misspelled the timezone identifier. We selected 'America/New_York' for 'EST/-5.0/no DST' instead in /includes/Setup.php on line 207
[20:00:11] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Inconsistent file parts order in JsonFFS - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42613 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Translate; (s.mazeland)
[20:00:55] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jarry1250; "(bug #32987) The language used to render SVGs should be definable" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25838
[20:03:07] <Vulpix>	 rgeiger: do you have access to edit the php.ini file?
[20:04:28] <rgeiger>	 yea, i should be able to edit the local php.ini
[20:06:17] <Vulpix>	 you can change the error_reporting setting there, Setup.php is probably read before your error_reporting change
[20:06:19] <Vulpix>	 try also http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Timezone
[20:06:27] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Umherirrender; "(bug 36211) add cursor:pointer to .mw-enhancedchanges-arrow" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36361
[20:07:09] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) [Regression] Show special cursor for expanding/collapsing in enhanced wachtlist/recent changes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36211  +comment (10Umherirrender)
[20:09:13] <rgeiger>	 hmm.... ok i will mess around with that
[20:18:52] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: SuchetaG; "[PATCH](Bug 39441) Added tooltips to the icons for session and user lists" [mediawiki/extensions/EtherEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36355
[20:20:37] <Vulpix>	 SuchetaG: congrats :)
[20:20:43] <marktraceur>	 Yay!
[20:21:08] <SuchetaG>	 Vulpix: Thanks ^_^ 
[20:21:21] <SuchetaG>	 marktraceur: Finally :P
[20:21:25] <marktraceur>	 SuchetaG: It doesn't look right--it still uses plain strings, not the messages?
[20:23:22] <SuchetaG>	 marktraceur: that amend command doesnt combine the codes?
[20:23:53] <SuchetaG>	 :(
[20:25:15] <SuchetaG>	 It just changes the commit message? Is that so? 
[20:25:57] <MatmaRex>	 SuchetaG: `git commit --amend` should commit everything
[20:26:07] <MatmaRex>	 SuchetaG: are you sure you `git add`-ed the modified files?
[20:26:27] <MatmaRex>	 (or you could use `git commit -a --amend`, but make sure that you don't commit something you didn't want to)
[20:28:56] <Krenair>	 SuchetaG, what does [PATCH] mean?
[20:30:32] <Vulpix>	 a patch to fix a broken piece of software, I gess :P
[20:31:20] <Vulpix>	 it shouldn't be in the commit summary, of course
[20:32:32] <SuchetaG>	 I am sorry, if I wasn't supposed to write that :) Will edit 
[20:33:26] <SuchetaG>	 .MatmaRex: Actually this time git add gives  On branch usrsession # Untracked files: #   (use "git add <file>..." to include in what will be committed) # #	../COMMITMSG nothing added to commit but untracked files present (use "git add" to track)
[20:33:54] <SuchetaG>	 I mean after 'git add' ing, git status gives that ^^
[20:35:07] <MatmaRex>	 i ukasiu_admina
[20:35:12] <MatmaRex>	 whoops, wrong window.
[20:35:25] <SuchetaG>	 :O
[20:35:29] <MatmaRex>	 SuchetaG: you seem to have done something weird D:
[20:36:16] <SuchetaG>	 Oh. Naturally :(
[20:37:29] <SuchetaG>	 But what could be the weird part :/ I just did it in the same way as before
[20:39:54] <Renegade15>	 good day
[20:40:51] <Renegade15>	 question...is there a particular upgrade/migration path if one wants to switch from using the packaged stable releases to using the git repository?
[20:42:27] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Siebrand; "Add configuration for icons" [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36362
[20:42:28] <marktraceur>	 SuchetaG: Can you confirm that `git diff` shows the right thing?
[20:42:48] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: SuchetaG; "(Bug 39441) Added tooltips to the icons for session and user lists" [mediawiki/extensions/EtherEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36355
[20:52:23] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: SuchetaG; "(Bug 39441) Added tooltips to the icons for session and user lists" [mediawiki/extensions/EtherEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36355
[20:53:21] <Vulpix>	 SuchetaG: have you modified any other files apart from modules/ext.etherEditor.js?
[20:58:26] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Request for new Analytics components in Bugzilla - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42088  +comment (10Diederik van Liere)
[21:02:07] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: SuchetaG; "(Bug 39441) Added tooltips to the icons for session and user lists" [mediawiki/extensions/EtherEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36355
[21:03:05] <SuchetaG>	 marktraceur: git diff does show the right thing! 
[21:03:19] <SuchetaG>	 Vulpix: No :(
[21:04:14] <marktraceur>	 That's really strange
[21:04:46] <SuchetaG>	 Oh no! 
[21:04:56] <wizardist>	 SuchetaG: ^^^ why not mw.msg?
[21:05:20] <SuchetaG>	 marktraceur: git diff shows both!
[21:05:37] <SuchetaG>	 the string and the message!
[21:06:56] <SuchetaG>	 wizardist: I did that only. The commit wont take it now
[21:07:35] <wizardist>	 SuchetaG: your first patch submission? good luck! :)
[21:08:06] <Krenair>	 Jasper_Deng, it looks like you could've limited filter 14 to the user namespace instead
[21:08:19] <Krenair>	 s/instead/as well
[21:09:50] <Krenair>	 Oh it is already? ignore me :P
[21:10:25] <SuchetaG>	 wizardist: Technically so. Although now it seems like I have submitted the same patch 5 times
[21:10:31] <wikibugs>	 03(FIXED) Method Message::__toString() must not throw an exception in SpecialContributions.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39398  +comment (10Umherirrender)
[21:10:33] <SuchetaG>	 :(
[21:10:42] <wizardist>	 !sumanah
[21:10:42] <wm-bot>	 Wikimedia Volunteer Development Coordinator in charge of nurturing the software community. See http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Sumanah
[21:11:13] <wizardist>	 She can help you to make your way through...
[21:11:44] <SuchetaG>	 marktraceur: :( I am so clueless 
[21:12:05] <marktraceur>	 SuchetaG: No, it's fine, something's clearly wrong
[21:12:14] <marktraceur>	 SuchetaG: Can you pastebin the output of git diff?
[21:12:25] <wizardist>	 and git status!
[21:14:08] <wikibugs>	 03(ASSIGNED) It's unclear which language should be used in Special:CreateItem - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41001   +patch-in-gerrit; +comment (10Amir E. Aharoni)
[21:14:31] <SuchetaG>	 marktraceur:http://pastebin.com/BgSXmb91
[21:14:46] <SuchetaG>	 See both the lines are there
[21:14:55] <marktraceur>	 SuchetaG: What about git status?
[21:16:41] <SuchetaG>	 marktraceur:http://pastebin.com/UD99EeZE
[21:17:25] <wizardist>	 SuchetaG: if you don't want to manually stage files for commit, you can just add '-a' argument while commiting
[21:17:29] <wizardist>	 like: commit -a
[21:17:34] <SuchetaG>	 Oh. There is one minus sign before the string code. 
[21:17:38] <wizardist>	 or, if amending: commit --amend -a
[21:18:35] <SuchetaG>	 wizardist: You think that would work?
[21:18:40] <Renegade15>	 question...is there a particular upgrade/migration path if one wants to switch from using the packaged stable releases to using the git repository?
[21:19:23] <wizardist>	 Renegade15: well, all your previous patchsets seem to be all the same, so probably you didn't stage your files again
[21:19:48] <wizardist>	 try 'commit --amend -a', don't change the description, then 'git review'
[21:19:52] <Renegade15>	 wrong target, I think
[21:20:32] <Isarra>	 Renegade15: You'd probably just have to clone the git one and then move all the modified stuff over to it from the old one.
[21:20:35] <Isarra>	 Or something.
[21:20:37] <Isarra>	 I dunno.
[21:21:21] <wizardist>	 Renegade15: I believe general upgrade notes apply.
[21:21:54] <Renegade15>	 that's all? just pretend it's yet another new version?
[21:22:43] <Isarra>	 Pretty much, yeah.
[21:22:51] <wizardist>	 well... depends on what is your current stable release :)
[21:23:40] <Renegade15>	 1.19.2
[21:25:12] <Amgine_>	 Has anyone made progress toward versioning extensions in git?
[21:25:57] <SuchetaG>	 wizardist: To ssh://suchetag@gerrit.wikimedia.org:29418/mediawiki/extensions/EtherEditor.git  ! [remote rejected] HEAD -> refs/publish/master/bug/39441 (no new changes) error: failed to push some refs to 'ssh://suchetag@gerrit.wikimedia.org:29418/mediawiki/extensions/EtherEditor.git'
[21:26:11] <SuchetaG>	 >.<
[21:26:46] <wizardist>	 haha. and here I go to get some sleep :*(
[21:27:22] <SuchetaG>	 wizardist: Such a cruel moment to laugh :-|
[21:27:42] <wizardist>	 delete your branch, checkout master, pull, review -d REVIEWID, make enhancements again, commit --amend -a, review
[21:28:13] <SuchetaG>	 :O
[21:28:43] <wizardist>	 That's the most idiotic solution that came to my mind, but afaik it works, worked for me btw
[21:29:37] <SuchetaG>	 :'(
[21:30:27] <wizardist>	 first checkout master, then delete the branch of course
[21:30:44] <SuchetaG>	 How to delete a branch? :P
[21:31:03] <wizardist>	 git branch -D branchname
[21:31:26] <wizardist>	 (it's not 'master' :))
[21:32:02] <marktraceur>	 SuchetaG: Hold on now
[21:32:17] <marktraceur>	 SuchetaG: What does git status say for you?
[21:32:47] <SuchetaG>	 marktraceur:http://pastebin.com/UD99EeZE
[21:34:59] <wikibugs>	 04(REOPENED) Upgrades should provide a way to separate out schema changes for environments that need it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38110  +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[21:35:40] <marktraceur>	 SuchetaG: Then you still need to `git commit -a --amend` again
[21:35:42] <Jasper_Deng>	 Krenair: it /is/ limited to the user namespace
[21:35:52] <Krenair>	 Yes I realised that afterwards :p
[21:36:15] <Krenair>	 I also realised it wouldn't've stopped that situation
[21:37:41] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Zfilipin; "Updated Ruby gems" [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36364
[21:38:30] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Umherirrender; "Show comment not as block in tables" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36365
[21:40:38] <SuchetaG>	 marktraceur: status is te same :(
[21:40:50] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Reverting to an old version of a video file does not trigger new transcodes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42294  +comment (10Marco)
[21:43:04] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Implement image tracking in the monuments database - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37455  +comment (10Maarten Dammers)
[21:43:38] <marktraceur>	 SuchetaG: What command are you running to commit the change?
[21:43:55] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: SuchetaG; "(Bug 39441) Added tooltips to the icons for session and user lists" [mediawiki/extensions/EtherEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36355
[21:44:05] <wikibugs>	 03(WONTFIX) Add Egypt (not participating in 2012) to the database as far as available - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39165  +comment (10Maarten Dammers)
[21:44:21] <marktraceur>	 There it is!
[21:44:31] <SuchetaG>	 YES!
[21:44:42] <SuchetaG>	 Phew . :)
[21:45:29] <SuchetaG>	 You know what was happening?
[21:45:49] <wikibugs>	 03(WONTFIX) Add field on copyright expiration - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38462  +comment (10Maarten Dammers)
[21:46:14] <SuchetaG>	 Everytime I was doing review -d <Change Num>
[21:46:30] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Add a monument_random field + index to the monuments_all table - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37974  +comment (10Maarten Dammers)
[21:47:11] <SuchetaG>	 The .js file in my machine was getting changed. Then I was git- adding that changed one only.   
[21:47:34] <marktraceur>	 Ohhh.
[21:48:06] <marktraceur>	 SuchetaG: Well, now you have a better idea of it
[21:48:15] <marktraceur>	 SuchetaG: I'll review it now :)
[21:49:08] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Lat/lon should be NULL when empty - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37422  +comment (10Maarten Dammers)
[21:49:29] <SuchetaG>	 marktraceur: I didn't notice that before. It didnt strike actually. The i realized it could be the problem. So I kept that .js file  opened in the editor to test. And bingo ! 
[21:49:37] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Use ResourceLoader/mw.config for jsReviewNeedsChange - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34716  (10db)
[21:49:46] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) allow export of deleted pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28858  (10db)
[21:49:54] <marktraceur>	 SuchetaG: So....git review -d is what you use to *download* a change
[21:50:02] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Create tool listing user WLM contributions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39293  +comment (10Maarten Dammers)
[21:50:10] <marktraceur>	 SuchetaG: When you're submitting one, you shouldn't use -d
[21:50:15] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) make guiuser of meta=globaluserinfo multi - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32625  (10db)
[21:50:24] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) provide log in link, when visit Special:ChangePassword or Special:ChangeEmail as anon - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32674  (10db)
[21:50:36] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) API: Allow listing of logevents per userid/pageid - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32675  (10db)
[21:50:41] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) add wiki filter to prop=globalusage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32776  (10db)
[21:50:51] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) let list=logevents use the new LogFormatter to format its output - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33235  (10db)
[21:50:58] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Add Bangladesh to the monuments database in .... - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38318  +comment (10Maarten Dammers)
[21:50:59] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Store performer, reason and timestamp in page restrictions table - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34497  (10db)
[21:51:01] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Add byte change also to Special:DeletedContributions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34523  (10db)
[21:51:04] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Add all the filter options from Special:Contributions to Special:DeletedContributions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34524  (10db)
[21:51:10] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) add timestamp near cache key (JS/CSS minify) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34779  (10db)
[21:51:25] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) JSMinifier: Skip '+' when both side is a literal - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34905  (10db)
[21:51:29] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Add better revision delete handling for list=filearchive - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34926  (10db)
[21:51:38] <SuchetaG>	 marktraceur: No no.I used it to checkout the change. As written on the docs.
[21:51:44] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Add UNESCO World Heritage Sites to database - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42265  +comment (10Maarten Dammers)
[21:51:45] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) output status with prop=stashimageinfo - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34950  (10db)
[21:51:48] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Make ResourceLoader option visible on Special:Gadgets - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35097  (10db)
[21:51:53] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Add user_last_timestamp of user_newtalk to meta=userinfo&uiprop=hasmsg - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39312  (10db)
[21:51:58] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) allow multi-user block/unblock through API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40275  (10db)
[21:52:10] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) allow multi-page protect/unprotect through API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40276  (10db)
[21:52:19] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Add user right to see logs which are deleted by deletelogentry - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40411  (10db)
[21:52:24] <wikibugs>	 03(WONTFIX) Add Liechtenstein to the monuments database - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38326  +comment (10Maarten Dammers)
[21:52:26] <marktraceur>	 SuchetaG: So the workflow went `git review -d <CHANGEID>`, make the change, `git commit -a --amend`, `git review -R`, right?
[21:52:30] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) clean up timestamp database fields - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40626  (10db)
[21:52:36] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) remove unused field rc_cur_time from recentchanges table - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40667  (10db)
[21:52:40] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) meta=allmessages shows more messages of extensions, not installed on that wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41741  (10db)
[21:52:46] <factor>	 $wgUsePathInfo shoudl this give me path info
[21:52:49] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Watchlist grouping - api part - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41901  (10db)
[21:52:51] <factor>	 with page title
[21:52:53] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) invalid ip on Special:GlobalBlockList gives 0.0.0.0 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42501  (10db)
[21:52:58] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) http://dumps.wikimedia.org/other/pagecounts-raw/ needs a dynamic year list - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42585  (10db)
[21:53:01] <factor>	 all I get is a number 1
[21:53:58] <factor>	 Is that a bug in 1.20.x
[21:54:20] <SuchetaG>	 marktraceur: Precisely. :) But yeah. It was becoming an algorithm with a broken loop :P 
[21:55:29] <SuchetaG>	 And what's more strange is , Yay! I am more happy to figure that algorithm out. :D marktraceur
[21:55:34] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Add UNESCO World Heritage Sites to database - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42265  +comment (10Effeietsanders)
[21:57:41] <marktraceur>	 SuchetaG: So while you're at it, could you trim the commit message a bit? I'm glad you understand how to do things, but I think we really only need to know the functional changes. So "added tooltips for the pad and session lists" should be roughly enough :)
[21:57:51] <marktraceur>	 SuchetaG: Keep the bug number, of course
[21:59:48] <marktraceur>	 Er, "user and session lists", sorry
[22:00:01] <SuchetaG>	 marktraceur: :D Again I followed the docs. And they have almost warned people to add a *A detailed summary of the committed changes.* and have a very scary example given :P
[22:00:16] <marktraceur>	 Heh, true
[22:00:43] <marktraceur>	 SuchetaG: That's fine, I happen to like it, but it does seem a bit much
[22:01:21] <SuchetaG>	 I know. I thought you'd scold me if I keep it precise :D
[22:01:38] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: MarkTraceur; "The commit message could be a bit shorter, but that's OK. I've also noted an inline issue that I thi..." [mediawiki/extensions/EtherEditor] (master); V: 0 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36355
[22:01:56] <marktraceur>	 SuchetaG: If your message fully describes what changes, it can be short if you'd like :)
[22:02:15] <marktraceur>	 SuchetaG: I reviewed it, would like another change, but I think this is plenty for an intro task
[22:02:27] <marktraceur>	 SuchetaG: In short, you should get some sleep :)
[22:03:19] <SuchetaG>	 marktraceur: Hehe. thanks :D I have some  exams to write too :P
[22:03:46] <SuchetaG>	 How adventurous :D
[22:06:35] <SuchetaG>	 marktraceur: So, I wont keep any of the codes in the comment?
[22:07:34] <SuchetaG>	 how short you want it to be. ( I wont be able to sleep with jobs undone :P )
[22:08:41] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) JobQueueDB::claimRandom seems very slow with lots of jobs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42614 normal; MediaWiki: JobQueue; (niklas.laxstrom)
[22:09:17] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jnfsmile; "Adding the files" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileSections] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36366
[22:09:42] <SuchetaG>	 sumanah: Hi! :)
[22:09:54] <marktraceur>	 SuchetaG: As short as you can make it while still explaining the change, use your best judgement :)
[22:09:55] <sumanah>	 Hi SuchetaG!
[22:10:01] <sumanah>	  sorry I'm just dropping in very briefly
[22:10:25] <sumanah>	 andre__: hi, how's it going? you around?
[22:10:43] <SuchetaG>	 sumanah: Could you give me the link of that video again? :) Please?
[22:10:57] <sumanah>	 SuchetaG: let me guess, you don't have logging enabled on your IRC client?
[22:11:20] <andre__>	 nevening sumanah.
[22:11:25] <andre__>	 diving emails.
[22:11:30] <sumanah>	 SuchetaG: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Meetings/2012-11-29
[22:11:54] <sumanah>	 SuchetaG: I highly recommend that you use a dedicated IRC client that lets you look at your logs later, such as XChat. https://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/wiki/Irc has tips
[22:13:20] <SuchetaG>	 sumanah: Oh okay. Sure :) I was online from phone the other day.
[22:13:26] <sumanah>	 ah, got it
[22:16:43] <factor>	 How do I get title with _ $context->getTitle()  gets name without title. 
[22:17:03] <factor>	 title underscores
[22:17:56] <sumanah>	 andre__: anything in particular happening re the revert of LST?
[22:18:04] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) JobQueueDB::claimRandom seems very slow with lots of jobs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42614   +performance (10Andre Klapper)
[22:20:24] <factor>	 Do i have to replace spaces with _ when getting titles
[22:20:32] <andre__>	 sumanah: I saw one too generic (no time info) comment in the forums so I could also only ask for more info and state that there were issues with LST
[22:20:56] <sumanah>	 andre__: ok, thanks, just wanted to check!
[22:21:51] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: SuchetaG; "(Bug 39441) Added tooltips to the icons for session and user lists" [mediawiki/extensions/EtherEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36355
[22:21:58] <andre__>	 factor, not an answer to your question, but you're aware of http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgTitle I guess?
[22:22:35] <SuchetaG>	 marktraceur: Now?
[22:22:44] <factor>	 its not in use any more
[22:22:51] <factor>	 $wgtitle is gone
[22:22:57] <factor>	 1.20.x
[22:23:09] <SuchetaG>	 marktraceur: What do you think about it?
[22:23:52] <factor>	 $parser->getTitle() is the replacement but its got spaces in it not _
[22:24:27] <Jarry1250>	 factor: Should be a simple case of str_replace'ing them back
[22:24:42] <factor>	 heh ok that is what i wanted to know
[22:26:30] <marktraceur>	 SuchetaG: Again, it's enough for your intro task, but my inline comment stands
[22:27:16] <SuchetaG>	 No No :) I edited the comment.
[22:27:35] <SuchetaG>	 marktraceur: Did you check?
[22:28:21] <SuchetaG>	 marktraceur: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/36355/
[22:34:14] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jarry1250; "(bug #32987) The language used to render SVGs should be definable" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25838
[22:35:47] <marktraceur>	 SuchetaG: The inline comment was about something different
[22:35:59] <marktraceur>	 SuchetaG: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/36355/6/modules/ext.etherEditor.js
[22:37:13] <SuchetaG>	 Yes yes. I checked that. Shall I do it now? marktraceur?
[22:41:22] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jarry1250; "(bug #32987) The language used to render SVGs should be definable" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25838
[22:43:15] <factor>	 How can I get the index.php name
[22:43:43] <factor>	 I can get the domain and page but not the index.php 
[22:50:04] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jarry1250; "(bug #32987) The language used to render SVGs should be definable" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25838
[22:52:35] <marktraceur>	 SuchetaG: You don't have to :)
[22:52:44] <Jarry1250>	 factor: I'm not sure anyone renames index.php
[22:53:32] <Jarry1250>	 factor: But if you consider $wgScript
[22:53:37] <factor>	 humm. ok
[22:53:43] <factor>	 looking
[22:53:45] <SuchetaG>	 marktraceur: Tested that on localhost. Yes. Should have done that :(
[22:53:54] <Jarry1250>	 factor: That's equal to "{$wgScriptPath}/index{$wgScriptExtension}". by default
[22:54:16] <Jarry1250>	 So you could strip out the $wgScriptPath
[22:54:27] <Jarry1250>	 *$wgScriptPath/
[22:54:57] <factor>	 So i can hard code index.php and shoudl be ok
[22:55:52] <Jarry1250>	 factor: You could do, or, as I say, either use $wgScript or make your own globaal based on it
[22:56:06] <Jarry1250>	 Most cases I've seen just use $wgScript
[22:56:16] <factor>	 yes I had one but it kept putting /1 in my path
[22:56:24] <Susan>	 Translatewiki.net uses i.php.
[22:56:27] <Susan>	 I believe.
[22:56:33] <factor>	 ok
[22:56:37] <Susan>	 It should be pretty easy to change.
[22:56:47] <Susan>	 Though you'll probably want to keep the old URLs working.
[22:56:56] <Jarry1250>	 Susan: Ah, interesting, I learn something new every day :)
[22:57:22] <Susan>	 Rage.
[23:00:09] <SuchetaG>	 marktraceur: Should I apply now?
[23:03:44] <factor>	 $wgArticlePath gets me  /index.php/$1 I could strip the $1 from it
[23:04:02] <factor>	 that should work as a variable
[23:04:51] <marktraceur>	 SuchetaG: Yes, absolutely!
[23:05:48] <SuchetaG>	 marktraceur: Ok :) Thank you ! ^_^
[23:12:12] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) [Vector] recent changes uses different font for rows showing wikibase-item - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42615 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; (bugreporter)
[23:29:12] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) API: Allow listing of logevents per userid/pageid - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32675  +comment (10Daniel Friesen)
[23:29:35] <wikibugs>	 03(FIXED) It's unclear which language should be used in Special:CreateItem - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41001  +comment (10Amir E. Aharoni)
[23:41:02] * DanielFriesen  has been thinking of making the new skin system somewhat js smart

[23:42:24] <DanielFriesen>	 Already in my ideas, you'd... Write out the definition of how links are broken up into groups. Write markup that takes those lists of links and turns them into html lists with additional spans, classes, etc...
[23:42:38] <DanielFriesen>	 But perhaps that could be even smarter.
[23:43:41] <DanielFriesen>	 The template system could remember the markup pattern for a list item in one of those lists. And expose that pattern to js.
[23:44:34] <DanielFriesen>	 And it could output data attributes in list items to detail where they fit into the link group definitions.
[23:47:00] <DanielFriesen>	 Then using that information we could have really smart things like `mw.ui.addLink( 'page.actions.purge', { text: mw.message( 'purge' ), href: mw.title.getLocalURL( 'action=purge' ) } );`
[23:48:32] <DanielFriesen>	 And without the calling script understanding anything about the skin -- and without any hardcoded ids or restricted patterns -- the code would automatically add the link exactly where it should be. In the exact same place it would end up if you had added the link server side.
[23:48:56] <DanielFriesen>	 Even if that means the link is not appended but instead inserted into the middle of a group of links.
[23:51:29] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: MarkAHershberger; "(bug 38110) provide a way to separate out schema changes" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36367
[23:54:03] <rgeiger>	 does the edit API work with any namespace? I have a namespace that I created and whenever I try to write to that namespace it says it is an invalid title
[23:56:53] <DanielFriesen>	 rgeiger: Namespaces have nothing to do with whether a title is valid or not. So there is likely something wrong with the input you're giving.
[23:58:55] <rgeiger>	 hmm... if i get rid of the namespace there is no problem
[23:59:06] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Install Component watching extension for bugzilla - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37105  +comment (10Andre Klapper)