[00:01:13] Change abandoned: Aaron Schulz; "We don't care for container metadata/exp object and upstream has been left broken for ages. Temp url..." [mediawiki/extensions/SwiftCloudFiles] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/10757 [00:02:18] Change abandoned: Aaron Schulz; "Moved to sandbox." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16696 [00:02:47] I did it without dry run and did a Y on database.php file.. It removed my $this->mDoneWrites and put it back to $this->mTrxDoneWrites [00:03:22] so do i just edit the file again and fix it ? or run patch again ? [00:03:29] New patchset: Siebrand; "Use WikiPage::factory() instead of new Article" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36924 [00:04:17] its: Did you run the patch against the 1.20.1 tarball? [00:04:24] no [00:04:31] i had done the same command to install 1.20.1 [00:04:38] Ah [00:04:50] 03(mod) Tablesorter sorts all numbers as dates in Czech - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42607 +comment (10Danny B.) [00:04:56] patch -i mediawiki-1.20.1.patch -p 1 [00:04:57] Hmm... it should have worked for you-- it looks like you already had the fix somehow [00:05:07] yeah i had edited the file previously to fix [00:05:14] undo the fix [00:05:17] apply 1.20.2 patch [00:05:32] 03(NEW) Long titles on Special Diff page and another special pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42702 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend; () [00:05:47] aah.. i have already applied 1.20.2.. which did an undo to my fix.. and created a Database.php.orig of my fix file [00:05:55] so do i simply fix again? or run patch again [00:07:01] You can restore your original file, and just ignore the failure [00:08:02] ok [00:08:04] thanks [00:08:16] New patchset: Siebrand; "Add more type hints and update PHPDoc" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36925 [00:09:14] New patchset: Siebrand; "Add more type hints and update PHPDoc." [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36925 [00:09:22] * qgil_ had read "You can restore your original life" and thought csteipp was onto something... [00:09:57] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36925 [00:10:07] New review: Aaron Schulz; "mediawiki/core branch is sandbox/aaron/rdbstore" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16696 [00:10:13] Well, it has to be much later in the evening before I start telling people how to restore their lives... :) [00:14:49] New review: Tim Starling; "Rebase fails." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35836 [00:29:06] 03(mod) display problem, login problem, possible caching issue - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42452 +comment (10Ryan Kaldari) [00:29:29] 03(mod) display problem, login problem, possible caching issue - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42452 normal->major (10Ryan Kaldari) [00:33:32] 03(NEW) Upload an image request shows up in strange places - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42703 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend (Beta); () [00:33:39] 03(NEW) 'other suggestions' sometimes spill out of the content area when using 'Random' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42704 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend (Beta); () [00:34:48] New patchset: Robmoen; "Add cancel button to VisualEditor MediaWiki integration." [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36934 [00:35:32] 03(NEW) Editing sometimes sends user to desktop site - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42705 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend (Beta); () [00:35:33] 03(NEW) Table module interferes with other modules - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42706 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend (Beta); () [00:37:11] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Interface should have an obvious way to get back to reading mode - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37845 +comment (10Rob Moen) [00:41:04] New patchset: Siebrand; "Update docs, type hints and parameter types" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36935 [00:45:02] New review: Mattflaschen; "This addresses a lot of the issues I raised previously. I'd still like to see the two merged, and t..." [mediawiki/extensions/GuidedTour] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35399 [00:46:05] New patchset: Siebrand; "Must be WikiPage, not Article" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36937 [00:46:19] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36937 [00:48:11] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36935 [00:48:15] 03(mod) Review and deploy SVGEdit extension to Wikimedia wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38271 +comment (10Marc Laporte) [00:53:33] New patchset: Siebrand; "Bitten again" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36939 [00:53:54] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36939 [00:55:30] New patchset: Siebrand; "Quelle horreur" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36940 [00:55:40] New patchset: Kaldari; "Adding placeholder and trashcan icons" [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36941 [00:55:41] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36940 [01:00:11] New patchset: Siebrand; "Replace with " [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36942 [01:01:07] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36942 [01:01:15] 03(NEW) Deleting across inline alien errors - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42707 normal; VisualEditor: Data Model; () [01:02:11] New patchset: Kaldari; "Adding placeholder and trashcan icons" [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36941 [01:04:40] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Deleting across inline alien errors - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42707 summary (10James Forrester) [01:05:26] 03(NEW) Uploading from gallery - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42708 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend (Beta); () [01:05:43] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Links in the CE surface should have the "cursor:pointer;" CSS attribute - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39976 summary; +comment (10James Forrester) [01:06:58] New patchset: Siebrand; "Fix syntax error from a20f674189c1a9e6f828ea2c699894d69ee1a554" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36943 [01:07:57] New review: Siebrand; "Had syntax error fixed in I6002f8ed." [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24942 [01:08:51] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36943 [01:09:46] Change merged: Kaldari; [mediawiki/extensions/Score] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34676 [01:13:05] 03(NEW) Cross domain tokens - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42709 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend (Beta); () [01:16:52] csteipp: hey, how's it going? [01:17:27] sumanah: Not too bad... just finally getting around to all the things I meant to do today that didn't happen because I was pushing out 1.20.2 :) [01:17:46] heh! glad you got that done, and glad you're getting to other stuff as well :-) [01:18:09] so, csteipp one thing I would like to ask of you is https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Amsterdam_Hackathon_2013#Straw_Poll mention your availability [01:18:33] doh. I know that email is somewhere on my list... I'll do it now :0 [01:19:36] :-) and another is -- if someone wants to talk with us about possibly using Mozilla Persona for login, do you have some time this month? and would it be you or someone else? [01:21:03] Done. And yeah, I would be happy to talk with them [01:21:43] Pretty much any time this month should be fine. The craziness is starting to wind down (I hope) [01:22:01] ok! [01:27:52] 03(mod) 'other suggestions' sometimes spill out of the content area when using 'Random' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42704 +comment (10Jon) [01:28:38] 03(mod) Uploading from phone's gallery - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42708 summary (10Jon) [01:29:02] 03(mod) History pushState misbehaving on 4.0.4 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41605 (10Jon) [01:29:06] Change abandoned: Spage; "Ori-l did this for me in commit 9add106." [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf5) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36655 [01:30:54] 03(NEW) New table styling interferes with clean up templates cleanup - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42710 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend (Beta); () [01:32:12] jdlrobson: ping re https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Amsterdam_Hackathon_2013#Straw_Poll [01:34:21] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "[Upload] Added async upload concatenation support." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34062 [01:38:57] Hello quick question, how to apply for mailing list especially in security updates? Thanks [01:39:05] hi jigpallan [01:39:09] !lists | jigpallan [01:39:09] jigpallan : mediawiki-l and wikitech-l are the primary mailing lists for MediaWiki-related issues. See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mailing_lists for details. [01:39:10] Change abandoned: Aaron Schulz; "Total conflict" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35836 [01:39:33] sumanah: Thank you :) [01:39:38] jigpallan: what you want is to sign up for the mediawiki-announce mailing list https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-announce which notifies you of all security updates [01:39:54] Big thanks, sumanah! [01:40:02] Glad to help, jigpallan [01:40:12] !announce [01:40:12] mediawiki-announce is a very-low-traffic email list announcing new MediaWiki releases and security updates. Subscribe at https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-announce [01:44:44] Huh, does anyone know x4i? [01:44:53] * marktraceur hasn't seen that person before [01:44:55] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "[JobQueue] Removed redundant DBO_TRX handling in JobQueueDB." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36946 [01:45:04] TimStarling: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/36946/ there we go [01:45:07] * Hazard-SJ neither [01:47:06] how do I apply a Mediawiki patch (like for 1.20.2?) [01:47:12] Change merged: Tim Starling; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36946 [01:47:19] I tried it on the mediawiki directory, and it returned errors [01:50:42] 03(mod) Reply doesn't work anymore - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42695 +comment (10MZMcBride) [01:52:43] 03(mod) Reply doesn't work anymore - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42695 +comment (10MZMcBride) [01:59:13] 03(mod) RT tickets hide status information from volunteers and staff alike - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30413 +comment (10MZMcBride) [01:59:32] TimStarling: what is the command to rebase a dependent change on the new version of the base change? [02:08:10] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "[Upload] Added async upload concatenation support." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34062 [02:08:12] 03(mod) Cross domain tokens - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42709 +comment (10Jon) [02:09:37] I found out how to patch my wiki [02:09:55] However, I have 1.20.0... I did a dry run of the patch to 1.20.2, and it says several hunks failed [02:11:16] darwin: btw if you do not get help here try the mailing list mediawiki-l [02:11:18] !lists | darwin [02:11:18] darwin : mediawiki-l and wikitech-l are the primary mailing lists for MediaWiki-related issues. See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mailing_lists for details. [02:11:33] ok [02:17:51] AaronSchulz: you can just click "rebase" in the web UI [02:18:01] it said there was a conflict [02:20:13] it would be easy enough with two branches [02:20:42] one branch for the parent and one for the dependent change [02:21:08] then it would just be git rebase [02:21:26] I'm not sure if git rebase works, it may do [02:21:36] after a git fetch of the appropriate change, of course [02:21:58] also git cherry-pick would be possible [02:22:03] 03(NEW) phpunit installing script not detecting same version as phpunit.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42711 normal; MediaWiki: Unit tests; () [02:22:14] using sha1 gives weird results and resolving conflicts and doing git rebase --continue claims no changes were added (in spite of git add) [02:22:52] yeah, I tried it when I was reviewing your RDBStore change a couple of hours ago, it didn't work for me then either [02:23:43] git cherry-pick on top of a branch holding the parent commit at its HEAD [02:24:06] as long as it keeps the same Change-Id footer [02:24:23] this seems kind of silly [02:24:50] I think I have done it in the past with cherry-pick [02:24:53] New patchset: Kaldari; "Fixing some variable names and comment formatting - no functional changes" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35419 [02:25:02] it's not really an operation git was designed for [02:25:17] you're meant to change code by doing more commits, not by changing the ones you did already [02:29:11] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "Added async upload-from-stash support." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36697 [02:30:54] 03(mod) Enable translation import on wikis with Translate extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40341 +comment (10Chris Steipp) [02:31:54] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "Added async upload-from-stash support." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36697 [02:48:18] New patchset: Kaldari; "Fixing some variable names and comment formatting - no functional changes" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35419 [02:52:09] New review: Kaldari; "Added a unit test, although ironically I can't test it currently due to bug 42711. I've never writte..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35419 [02:52:54] New review: Kaldari; "Oops, I mean "I'm NOT sure if I've done it correctly" :)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35419 [02:53:37] New patchset: Yaron Koren; "Removed support for Semantic MediaWiki 1.4 and 1.5" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticForms] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36950 [02:56:06] Change merged: Yaron Koren; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticForms] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36950 [03:02:44] New patchset: Kaldari; "Fixing some variable names and comment formatting - no functional changes" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35419 [03:24:16] 03(mod) Presence/absence of initial newline in
 should be in round-trip data - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42667  +comment (10Gabriel Wicke)
[03:25:49] 	 New review: Mdale; "looks good." [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36767
[03:26:59] 	 New review: Mdale; "Daniel Friesenis that a supported css block attribute or a suggestion?" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master); V: 0 C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36748
[03:27:47] 	 New patchset: Adamw; "Another test analytics suite" [wikimedia/fundraising/tools] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36951
[03:29:11] 	 New review: Daniel Friesen; "Tried looking at the RL docs?" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36748
[03:30:20] 	 quick question, downloaded 1.20.2 (twice) and install it (on centos6.3)..did some config on my httpd.conf..restarted httpd.check the site but i get mediawiki 1.20.2 LocalSettings.php not found. Please setup the wiki first. But when i click the setup, i get "Server eroor"
[03:30:33] 	 1.20.2 is not stable?
[03:37:31] 	 jigpallan: Do you have a file called LocalSettings.php?
[03:40:11] 	 Hazard-S: theres no file LocalSettings.php
[03:40:35] 	 i locate the db but found none Hazard-S3
[03:41:52] 	 Not in the database
[03:42:08] 	 jigpallan: Is it a new installation or upgrade?
[03:43:21] 	 New installation
[03:43:46] 	 Hazard-S3, no such file LocaSettings.php
[03:43:57] 	 been checking all directories
[03:44:04] 	 jigpallan: OK
[03:44:15] 	 Did you do the installation?
[03:44:39] 	 yup i followed the exact documentation of linode even mediawiki site
[03:44:51] 	 i have successfully installed the 19 but i remove it
[03:45:50] 	 jigpallan: Did you select the "set up wiki" link?
[03:46:02] 	 *"set up the wiki"
[03:46:26] 	 Yes i select "set up wiki"
[03:46:50] 	 but the error gave me "Server error" chrome. and blank in firefox
[03:47:27] 	 :/
[03:48:27] 	 i guess ill go back to 19 :D
[03:48:34] 	 works fine in version 19
[03:48:58] 	 !blankpage | jigpallan
[03:48:58] 	  jigpallan: A blank page or HTTP 500 error usually indicates a fatal PHP error. For information on debugging (including viewing errors), see .
[03:49:33] 	 yes HTTP error 500 (Internal Server Error)
[03:49:58] 	 done visiting that site debug still the same
[03:50:06] 	 Yes - but there's a way to see the error message.
[03:52:19] 	 thanks anyways
[03:52:26] 	 ill stick to 19.works fine now
[03:52:32] 	 just installed fresh
[04:24:19] 	 New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Re-think error-handling and revisions in JS module" [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36690
[04:26:03] 	 03(NEW) Show video timeline position on hover and when dragging playhead - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42712 enhancement; MediaWiki extensions: TimedMediaHandler; ()
[04:45:11] 	 bugzilla begins to send html tables instead of text tables?
[05:02:47] 	 Reedy: pping
[05:02:49] 	 I think I broke something
[05:22:50] 	 http://pastebin.com/nbNhrMjg
[05:23:21] 	 I want unique values (case insensitive)
[05:27:23] 	 New review: Santhosh; "They are not jquery selectors. In all these places we are creating a new element. Reducing jquery se..." [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master); V: 0 C: -2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36777
[06:03:52] 	 Could someone please tell me how to find people with rights to do stuff with a project in gerrit?
[06:04:02] 	 Someone showed me before and I lost the link and now I can't find it.
[06:05:30] 	 Isarra: Admin > Projects > 
[06:05:55] 	 Isarra: Then choose "Access" on the left
[06:06:55] 	 What is admin?
[06:07:07] 	 How do you get to it?
[06:11:03] 	 Isarra: you need to log in to your gerrit account to see the admin menu option.
[06:11:51] 	 Oh, there it is.
[06:11:58] 	 This is needlessly confusing.
[06:12:06] 	 Especially when drunk.
[06:12:15] 	 Is that why it's so confusing?
[06:12:29] 	 To head off drunk people from submitting patches and pestering reviewers and such?
[06:12:50] 	 That's merely a side-benefit.
[06:13:11] 	 It's the only benefit I can think of.
[06:13:19] 	 Potentially a very valuable one, but still.
[06:13:55] 	 Where exact is the gerrit located? im in my .com/wiki
[06:14:09] 	 
[06:14:15] 	 cntrl+f type gerrit no word
[06:14:22] 	 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org
[06:14:29] 	 thanks
[06:14:31] 	 yw
[06:15:57] * Isarra  edits a mustache on Amgine.
[06:16:27] 	 eew. Movember is *over*, Isarra.
[06:17:00] 	 Soz.
[06:17:07] 	 New patchset: Parent5446; "Added Uri class and Uri Query classes." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22167
[06:19:10] * yuvipanda  annoys Amgine 
[06:19:41] 	 New patchset: Parent5446; "Added Uri class and Uri Query classes." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22167
[06:22:33] 	 
[06:22:52] * yuvipanda  eats u p all the pepper
[06:23:22] 	 evil person. btw: I will probably be siccing a blogger on you.
[06:23:37] 	 New patchset: Parent5446; "(bug 38417) Changed edit token construction and checking" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/21986
[06:23:54] 	 siccing?
[06:24:59] 	 u p.
[06:25:11] 	 still confused
[06:25:15] 	 bad pun, sorry, it's late.
[06:25:38] 	 Hi, i'm trying to work out when various releases are in security support
[06:25:41] 	 hi dan_p 
[06:25:42] 	 is there a page somewhere?
[06:25:56] 	 so, we support 1.20.2 and 1.19.3 right now
[06:26:15] 	 ah, thanks - what I expected
[06:26:49] * dan_p  goes back to looking at updating a very outdated install
[06:26:49] 	 and and 1.18.6 
[06:27:04] 	 dan_p: did you see http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/mediawiki-announce/2012-December/000123.html and http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/mediawiki-announce/2012-November/000122.html ?
[06:27:13] 	 !announce | dan_p 
[06:27:14] 	  dan_p : mediawiki-announce is a very-low-traffic email list announcing new MediaWiki releases and security updates. Subscribe at https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-announce
[06:27:43] 	 I think one of my colleagues did, yep - thanks
[06:28:07] 	 You might enjoy being on mediawiki-l if you're maintaining an install, dan_p 
[06:28:08] 	 !lists
[06:28:08] 	 mediawiki-l and wikitech-l are the primary mailing lists for MediaWiki-related issues. See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mailing_lists for details.
[06:28:08] 	 New patchset: Parent5446; "(bug 40679) Set $wgSecureLogin to false for $wgServers with schemes." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27136
[06:29:35] 	 i'm temporarily helping, but thnaks, I will subscribe anyway
[06:30:37] 	 
[06:34:36] 	 hi there multichill 
[06:37:44] 	 Good morning sumanah
[06:38:00] 	 multichill: people are looking forward to your event!
[06:38:11] 	 Nice!
[06:39:34] 	 multichill: I think that there is also some interest in having a European event in August as counterprogramming to Wikimania, specifically for the people who can't fly to China
[06:44:42] 	 New patchset: Krinkle; "(bug 41865) Save page behavior for oldid" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36833
[06:45:23] 	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Pywikipediabot/Development#Commit_access ok, that's updated 
[06:48:07] 	 03(NEW) Translation Notification Bot on alswiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42713 normal; MediaWiki extensions: TranslationNotifications; ()
[06:49:43] 	 03(mod) Translation Notification Bot on alswiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42713  +comment (10Holder)
[06:52:48] 	 it made sense this morning/afternoon to plan an 8am meeting for Wed and now, a bit of regret.
[06:55:14] 	 hi valhallasw - hey, got a moment to talk about pywikipedia?
[06:55:34] 	 valhallasw: I've updated mediawiki.org such that Manual:Pywikipediabot/Development#Commit access now points to Developer access/Subversion so people know where to email for pywikipedia commit access requests.
[06:56:44] 	 that's all.
[06:56:59] 	 ok I guess I just needed to say that :-) and now I need to head to bed, sorry
[06:57:03] 	 happy hacking!
[07:00:49] 	 New review: Krinkle; "Invalid jshintrc file." [mediawiki/extensions/SVGEdit] (master); V: 0 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36754
[07:13:44] 	 New review: Krinkle; "-1, now it is broken again. my commit fixed this already, this reverts it again and introduces anoth..." [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36891
[07:14:13] 	 New patchset: Santhosh; "(Bug 42692)  #pt-uls .uls-trigger is missing left padding in Modern skin" [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36952
[07:14:55] 	 03(mod) #pt-uls .uls-trigger is missing left padding in Modern skin - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42692  normal->minor; +comment (10Santhosh Thottingal)
[07:18:26] 	 New patchset: Krinkle; "Demos: Fix for I53b041f8 fixing Idbff4c51 fixing I840f7242" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36953
[07:18:54] 	 New review: Krinkle; "Fixed the fix for the fix in fix I860b0441 fix. fix.." [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36891
[07:19:47] 	 New review: Krinkle; "V1 on behalf of jenkins-bot (which is quiet today)." [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master); V: 1 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36953
[07:23:36] 	 New patchset: Liangent; "Add LanguageZh_hans::formatDuration() for Chinese." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36954
[07:47:51] 	 Change abandoned: Siebrand; "Per CR" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36777
[07:56:09] 	 New review: Siebrand; "L10n/i18n LGTM" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master); V: 0 C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36833
[08:06:22] 	 03(mod) Please edit the archives of wikilovesmonuments-l mailing list - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42673  +comment (10Philippe Beaudette)
[08:21:04] 	 New patchset: Siebrand; "Message list" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36157
[08:21:25] 	 New patchset: Siebrand; "Extend meta=messagegroups API function + better docs" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/19457
[08:21:42] 	 New patchset: Siebrand; "Use WikiPage::factory() instead of new Article" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36924
[08:23:36] 	 New review: Nikerabbit; "No complaints, just some notes." [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36911
[08:28:51] 	 New patchset: Santhosh; "Replace the expand button with label" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36736
[08:30:02] 	 Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36736
[08:30:36] 	 Change merged: Nikerabbit; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36924
[08:35:13] 	 Hello
[08:35:30] 	 I try to use extensions in madiawiki 1.20
[08:35:46] 	 but i have always the same error : UNIQ...QINU
[08:36:20] 	 and Mediawiki FAQ explains that the problem doesn't exist after version 1.5
[08:36:26] 	 some one can help me ?
[08:36:30] 	 tahnks a lot
[08:37:21] 	 Delphin: What kind if help is needed?
[08:37:52] 	 how i can fix this problem ?
[08:38:30] 	 Delphin: Explain what the problem is. What extension are you installing? What happens? When do you get that error?
[08:38:47] 	  i have always the same error : UNIQ...QINU
[08:39:08] 	 with simple syntax like : {{note|Foo|reminder}}
[08:39:19] 	 or with other extensions like htmllet
[08:39:23] 	 New patchset: Nikerabbit; "(bug 42699) Undefined variable $id in ApiAggregateGroups" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36956
[08:39:27] 	 or widget extensions
[08:39:40] 	 03(mod) Undefined variable $id in ApiAggregateGroups - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42699  +comment (10Niklas Laxström)
[08:39:50] 	 Delphin: Is it this problem: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Thread:Extension_talk:Favorites/UNIQ...QINU_parser_problem/reply_(2)
[08:40:04] 	 yes
[08:40:07] 	 i found this page
[08:40:36] 	 but i don't want to re-code extensions
[08:40:48] 	 Or this: http://geometrus.com/wp/2010/03/uniq-qinu-bug-in-mediawiki/
[08:41:37] 	 ok so my wiki code is parsed twice
[08:41:44] 	 thank you for this page
[08:42:18] 	 Delphin: Most likely it is not every extension you use that has this error. Try to comment out all extensions in LocalSettings.php. If that makes error go away, try adding extensions one by one to see where the error is.
[08:42:22] 	 il like this in the explaination : "The solution for this is not that easy"
[08:42:23] 	 lol
[08:42:41] 	 ok thanks a lot tale
[08:45:31] 	 have a good day
[08:47:20] 	 New patchset: Nikerabbit; "Fix docs" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36957
[08:49:58] 	 New review: Christian; "As much as I love ve.ui, I agree that one is enough." [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master); V: 0 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36953
[08:49:58] 	 Change merged: Christian; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36953
[08:50:48] 	 Change merged: Ori.livneh; [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36344
[08:51:55] 	 New patchset: Nikerabbit; "Small doc fixes" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36958
[08:52:01] 	 New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Use $wgNamespaceContentModels to register content model" [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36380
[08:52:09] 	 Change merged: Ori.livneh; [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36380
[08:52:32] 	 New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Report correct MIME type ("application/json") for JSON schema" [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36502
[08:52:45] 	 Change merged: Ori.livneh; [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36502
[08:53:54] 	 New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Allow modules to specify schema revision" [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36503
[08:54:08] 	 New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Add S Page to authors" [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36598
[08:54:59] 	 Change merged: Ori.livneh; [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36598
[08:55:51] 	 New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Re-think error-handling and revisions in JS module" [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36690
[09:16:01] 	 03(NEW) Infowindow not showing after clicking on the marker - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42714 critical; MediaWiki extensions: Maps; ()
[09:20:21] 	 03(mod) Allow blocking of global accounts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/15294  (10Legoktm)
[09:21:06] 	 03(mod) Tablesorter sorts all numbers as dates in Czech - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42607  +comment (10Mormegil)
[09:23:22] 	 Change restored: Hashar; "(no reason)" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36739
[09:23:27] 	 New review: Hashar; "recheck" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36739
[09:24:12] 	 New review: Hashar; "recheck" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36739
[09:26:04] 	 New patchset: Hashar; "Jenkins validation (do not submit)" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36739
[09:27:31] 	 Change abandoned: Hashar; "(no reason)" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36739
[09:38:03] 	 03(mod) Translation Notification Bot on alswiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42713  (10Platonides)
[09:41:08] 	 New patchset: Santhosh; "(bug 42677) - Status bar rendering slow in Firefox" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36960
[09:56:57] 	 Change merged: Nikerabbit; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32209
[09:59:56] 	 New patchset: Nikerabbit; "(bug 42619) Adjust comment for log_params database field" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36388
[10:00:16] 	 New review: Krinkle; "If it only takes a second for someone else to merge, that it only takes a second." [mediawiki/core] (refs/meta/config); V: 0 C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36815
[10:00:34] 	 New patchset: Nikerabbit; "(bug 36211) add cursor:pointer to .mw-enhancedchanges-arrow" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36361
[10:01:51] 	 New patchset: Nikerabbit; "(bug 37263) better handling of minor/bot in enhanced changelist" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36360
[10:08:59] 	 Change merged: Nikerabbit; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36388
[10:09:21] 	 Change merged: Nikerabbit; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36361
[10:09:26] 	 03(NEW) Duplicate translation notifications are generated - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42715 major; MediaWiki extensions: TranslationNotifications; ()
[10:09:32] 	 Change merged: Nikerabbit; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36360
[10:13:19] 	 New review: Nikerabbit; "Does this need release notes?" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36168
[10:14:21] 	 New review: Nikerabbit; "What is this useful for if it cannot be relied on for individual pages?" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34973
[10:14:49] 	 03(mod) Declare wb_terms fields to be binary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42682  +comment (10Daniel Kinzler)
[10:14:52] 	 03(mod) Allow wikibase to operate without the term_search_key column - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42683  +comment (10Daniel Kinzler)
[10:14:55] 	 03(mod) Make sure all db tables have a unique column - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42684  +comment (10Daniel Kinzler)
[10:15:28] 	 New review: Nikerabbit; "Can someone rebase this?" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29506
[10:18:33] 	 New review: Nikerabbit; "I wouldn't call removing few preferences as significant simplification, and we are not removing any ..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30173
[10:21:58] 	 03(mod) Duplicate translation notifications are generated - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42715  major->normal; +comment (10Siebrand)
[10:24:39] 	 03(NEW) updater fails if db tables missing but entities already present. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42716 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; ()
[10:25:08] 	 03(mod) updater fails if db tables missing but entities already present. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42716  (10Daniel Kinzler)
[10:27:29] 	 03(NEW) maintenance script for rebuilding secondary tables - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42717 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; ()
[10:27:56] 	 03(mod) maintenance script for rebuilding secondary tables - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42717  (10Daniel Kinzler)
[10:27:59] 	 03(mod) updater fails if db tables missing but entities already present. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42716  (10Daniel Kinzler)
[10:28:56] 	 Change merged: Nikerabbit; [mediawiki/extensions/Renameuser] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/5288
[10:30:49] 	 03(NEW) Wikibase.sql should define all tables needed by Wikibase - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42718 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; ()
[10:33:44] 	 03(mod) JobQueueDB::claimRandom seems very slow with lots of jobs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42614  +comment (10Joseph Seddon)
[10:35:56] 	 03(mod) Duplicate translation notifications are generated - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42715  (10Nemo)
[10:36:34] 	 03(NEW) make standalone database update script for wikibase - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42719 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; ()
[10:36:45] 	 03(mod) Duplicate translation notifications are generated - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42715  +comment (10Joseph Seddon)
[10:36:45] 	 03(mod) make standalone database update script for wikibase - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42719  normal->15enhancement (10Daniel Kinzler)
[10:38:52] 	 03(mod) Duplicate translation notifications are generated - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42715  (10Joseph Seddon)
[10:39:58] 	 03(mod) Adding 'ipblock-exempt' userright to the Bots usergroup in enwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28914  (10Mormegil)
[10:40:00] 	 03(NEW) Add 'ipblock-exempt' userright to the Bot usergroup in cswiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42720 normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; ()
[10:40:13] 	 03(mod) JobQueueDB::claimRandom seems very slow with lots of jobs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42614  +comment (10Niklas Laxström)
[10:40:15] 	 New patchset: Santhosh; "(bug 42677) - Status bar rendering slow in Firefox" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36960
[10:41:12] 	 03(mod) Add 'ipblock-exempt' userright to the Bot usergroup in cswiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42720  +comment (10Mormegil)
[10:41:14] 	 03(mod) Adding 'ipblock-exempt' userright to the Bots usergroup in enwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28914  (10Mormegil)
[10:41:46] 	 03(mod) Duplicate translation notifications are generated - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42715   +code-update-regression; +comment (10Siebrand)
[10:43:38] 	 03(mod) Make sure all db tables have a unique column - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42684  (10jeblad)
[10:44:30] 	 03(mod) Declare wb_terms fields to be binary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42682  (10jeblad)
[10:44:43] 	 New review: J; "@Daniel, thanks. Was reading through the docs one level up and missed the Developing_with_ResourceLo..." [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36748
[10:45:10] 	 03(mod) prevent creation of items having the same sitelinks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42325  (10jeblad)
[10:45:54] 	 03(mod) Allow wikibase to operate without the term_search_key column - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42683  (10jeblad)
[10:46:44] 	 03(mod) Add labels to user contributions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41624  (10jeblad)
[10:47:36] 	 New patchset: Hashar; "revert UIDGenerator work in progress" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36961
[10:48:00] 	 03(mod) Enable database profiling support on dev and test - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42542  +comment (10Daniel Kinzler)
[10:48:11] 	 03(mod) Make pollForChanges check if site tables have been populated - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42681  (10jeblad)
[10:48:48] 	 03(mod) Hide anons and logged in users filters don't work with Wikidata changes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42475  (10jeblad)
[10:49:19] 	 03(mod) JobQueueDB::claimRandom seems very slow with lots of jobs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42614   +code-update-regression (10Siebrand)
[10:51:25] 	 03(mod) Allow wikibase to operate without the term_search_key column - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42683  (10Daniel Kinzler)
[10:53:29] 	 03(mod) Enable database profiling support on dev and test - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42542  +comment (10Aude)
[10:54:12] 	 Change merged: Santhosh; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36960
[10:54:35] 	 03(mod) Make sure all db tables have a unique column - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42684  (10Daniel Kinzler)
[10:54:51] 	 03(mod) Editing a value in a statement (5) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40953  (10Daniel Werner)
[10:55:42] 	 03(mod) prevent creation of items having the same sitelinks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42325  (10Daniel Kinzler)
[10:56:28] 	 03(mod) Make pollForChanges check if site tables have been populated - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42681  (10Aude)
[10:57:32] 	 03(mod) Translation Notification Bot on alswiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42713  +comment (10Siebrand)
[10:58:18] 	 03(mod) Selenium tests for the creation and display of statements - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42575  (10jeblad)
[10:59:03] 	 03(mod) Undefined variable $id in ApiAggregateGroups - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42699  +comment (10Siebrand)
[10:59:49] 	 03(mod) Editing a value in a statement (5) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40953  (10jeblad)
[11:00:46] 	 03(mod) It's unclear which language should be used in Special:CreateItem - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41001  (10jeblad)
[11:01:24] 	 03(mod) Make edit link and other repo links protocol relative - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42534  (10jeblad)
[11:02:02] 	 03(mod) Make client access item blobs directly, avoid local copies - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42187  (10jeblad)
[11:02:31] 	 03(mod) Why is 127.0.0.1 on dev-client hidden when Wikidata is hidden? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42544  (10jeblad)
[11:03:07] 	 03(mod) Label of Special:EntityData is broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42545  (10jeblad)
[11:05:09] 	 New patchset: J; "Bug 42471: fix video player in rlt mode" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36748
[11:06:14] 	 Change merged: J; [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36766
[11:06:32] 	 Change merged: J; [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36767
[11:09:43] 	 03(mod) [Project Selector] Slow progress bar addition in Firefox - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42677  +comment (10Santhosh Thottingal)
[11:11:02] 	 03(mod) Add 'ipblock-exempt' userright to the Bot usergroup in cswiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42720  normal->15enhancement; +comment (10Dereckson)
[11:13:35] 	 03(NEW) Turkish Wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42721 normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; ()
[11:14:00] 	 03(mod) phpunit installing script not detecting same version as phpunit.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42711  +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[11:15:14] 	 New review: J; "Call to undefined method UploadBase::getCurrentStatus() in mediawiki/includes/api/ApiUpload.php on l..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36697
[11:16:58] 	 New review: Tychay; "This is still a little hacky, but at this point I don't think we can do any better without a serious..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17952
[11:17:43] 	 Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36958
[11:19:02] 	 New review: Tychay; "See the note on CAPTCHA's. Since Chris +1'd it and this doesn't affect ACUX, I'm going to merge this..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/18127
[11:19:18] 	 03(mod) Selenium tests for the creation and display of statements - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42575  (10tobias.gritschacher)
[11:20:01] 	 03(mod) Duplicate translation notifications are generated - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42715  (10Nemo)
[11:20:04] 	 03(mod) JobQueueDB::claimRandom seems very slow with lots of jobs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42614  (10Nemo)
[11:24:07] 	 03(mod) JobQueueDB::claimRandom seems very slow with lots of jobs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42614  +comment (10Jarry1250)
[11:26:30] 	 Change abandoned: Spage; "setDefaults() removes the need for constant fields. I have a newer patch just for predefined system ..." [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30317
[11:28:07] 	 03(mod) Turkish Wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42721   +shell; +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[11:29:33] 	 Nikerabbit: Thank you for the review of
[11:29:35] 	 !g 29279
[11:29:35] 	 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#q,29279,n,z
[11:30:00] 	 You wrote that you would remove user-link-tools + title-link-params
[11:30:00] 	 New patchset: J; "Purge videos from squid on action=purge" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35574
[11:30:56] 	 I think that these both are useful
[11:31:17] 	 Is there a important reason to remove them?
[11:32:10] 	 03(mod) Turkish Wikisource: "VikiKaynak" could be "Vikikaynak" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42721  normal->trivial; -shell +shellpolicy; summary; +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[11:38:52] 	 03(mod) Turkish Wikisource: "VikiKaynak" could be "Vikikaynak" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42721  +comment (10Dereckson)
[11:40:12] 	 New patchset: Santhosh; "Make the load all messages button in group selector work." [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36965
[11:41:50] 	 New review: Tychay; "The reason moving a skin to an extension is okay, while supporting them as defaults makes things com..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25170
[11:43:21] 	 New patchset: Hashar; "validate jenkins job" [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36967
[11:43:53] 	 03(mod) Cache expensive elements in Special:TimedMediaHandler - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41854  +comment (10Jan Gerber)
[11:46:30] 	 Jan_Luca: I think those are things that can change over time, and thus are better implemented in a log formatter class rather than hardcoded in the logentries themselves
[11:47:03] 	 New patchset: Hashar; "validate jenkins job" [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36968
[11:47:36] 	 Nikerabbit: Should user-link then be with or without the user tools?
[11:48:41] 	 because makeUserLink uses the var "linkFlood"
[11:48:47] 	 03(mod) Turkish Wikisource: "VikiKaynak" could be "Vikikaynak" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42721  (10ozkan.poyraz92)
[11:49:37] 	 New patchset: Hashar; "validate jenkins job" [mediawiki/extensions/GeoData] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36969
[11:51:34] 	 New patchset: Siebrand; "Fix two fatals" [mediawiki/extensions/Renameuser] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36971
[11:52:09] 	 New patchset: Hashar; "validating jenkins jobs" [mediawiki/extensions/Renameuser] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36972
[11:53:27] 	 03(mod) Add 'ipblock-exempt' userright to the Bot usergroup in cswiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42720  -shell +patch-in-gerrit +shellpolicy; +comment (10Dereckson)
[11:53:42] 	 New patchset: Hashar; "validate jenkins job" [mediawiki/extensions/Score] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36973
[11:54:01] 	 Change merged: Nikerabbit; [mediawiki/extensions/Renameuser] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36971
[11:54:51] 	 Change abandoned: Hashar; "(no reason)" [mediawiki/extensions/Renameuser] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36972
[11:55:43] 	 Change abandoned: Hashar; "(no reason)" [mediawiki/extensions/Score] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36973
[11:56:33] 	 New patchset: Hashar; "validate jenkins jobs" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36974
[11:56:36] 	 New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Fix-up: typo in config var name" [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36975
[11:58:48] 	 Change merged: Nikerabbit; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36956
[12:01:39] 	 Change merged: Ori.livneh; [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36690
[12:02:33] 	 New patchset: Nikerabbit; "(bug 38897) Fix unhandled exception when visiting e.g. MediaWiki:Somemessage/0" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34682
[12:02:48] 	 New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Fix-up: typo in config var name" [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36975
[12:03:14] 	 Change abandoned: Hashar; "(no reason)" [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36967
[12:03:23] 	 Change merged: Ori.livneh; [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36975
[12:03:29] 	 Change abandoned: Hashar; "(no reason)" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36974
[12:04:48] 	 New review: Spage; "Once I figured out the changes required in LocalSettings and clients, this works with existing schem..." [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36503
[12:07:13] 	 Jan_Luca: without by default imho
[12:07:39] 	 03(mod) Problems with show preview - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42700  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[12:07:41] 	 03(mod) Add 'ipblock-exempt' userright to the Bot usergroup in cswiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42720  +comment (10Mormegil)
[12:07:53] 	 Nikerabbit: The default for Special:Log seems to be "on"
[12:08:06] 	 well, use the default then?
[12:08:26] 	 but I think the most does not want to have the tools
[12:08:58] 	 What do you like (for a normal user link)?
[12:09:28] 	 New review: Hashar; "recheck" [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35585
[12:09:58] 	 03(mod) [Project Selector] Numbers visible in Opera - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42676  (10Andre Klapper)
[12:10:13] 	 03(mod) action=options needs documentation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42687  (10Andre Klapper)
[12:10:16] 	 03(mod) Documentation is out of date, incomplete (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/1  (10Andre Klapper)
[12:10:42] 	 imho there should be some javascript to provide easy access to those tools, the plain links just clutter the output
[12:12:10] 	 Nikerabbit: Nice idea for a change of Linker::userToolLinks
[12:12:25] 	 Change abandoned: Hashar; "(no reason)" [mediawiki/extensions/GeoData] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36969
[12:12:57] 	 New review: Hashar; "recheck" [mediawiki/extensions/GeoData] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35831
[12:13:11] 	 New review: Hashar; "recheck" [mediawiki/extensions/GeoData] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35832
[12:13:36] 	 03(mod) Turkish Wikisource: "VikiKaynak" could be "Vikikaynak" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42721  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[12:13:45] 	 New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Add PHPUnit tests for JsonSchema class" [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35585
[12:19:43] 	 03(mod) Wikinews' users should be "Wikinewsies", not "wikireporters" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30755  normal->trivial (10Andre Klapper)
[12:22:43] 	 Since 1.20.1 (i think) I've had problems with this http://pastebin.com/2Cry7SUX
[12:22:59] 	 just upgraded to 1.20.2 and it is still occuring
[12:23:12] 	 it happens when trying to delete an article
[12:23:26] 	 New review: Ori.livneh; "Hashar forced me to do it; it's all his fault." [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master); V: 0 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35585
[12:23:27] 	 and yes I've run the update.php script
[12:23:40] 	 any ideas?
[12:24:51] 	 ori-l: +2 does not merge change though (at least not now) :)
[12:25:44] 	 which one of the four links corresponds to the phpunit suite?
[12:26:00] 	 i see merge, jslint, lint & install
[12:26:27] 	 ^ hashar
[12:26:34] 	 ori-l: fixing that 
[12:26:39] 	  https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36981
[12:26:45] 	 03(mod) [Project Selector] Numbers visible in Opera - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42676  +comment (10Niklas Laxström)
[12:26:52] 	 New patchset: Zfilipin; "Updated Ruby gems" [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36982
[12:26:56] 	 i have disabled unit tests since there were none :)
[12:27:15] 	 New review: Hashar; "triggering tests" [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master); V: 0 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35585
[12:27:44] 	 ori-l: I changed the workflow so that unit test will not block
[12:28:04] 	 ori-l: adding a comment having CR+2 will retrigger the tests in jenkins
[12:28:24] 	 03(mod) next button does nothing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42640  (10j.nailor)
[12:28:27] 	 ori-l: that is still a bit experimental though :-)
[12:28:58] 	 03(NEW) Show Protect Feedback (action=protect) for pages in whitelisted namespaces only - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42722 normal; MediaWiki extensions: ArticleFeedbackv5; ()
[12:29:46] 	 03(mod) Turkish Wikisource: "VikiKaynak" could be "Vikikaynak" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42721  (10ozkan.poyraz92)
[12:30:36] 	 what does one do to get attention here? there is so much noise that my question fades into the past
[12:31:28] 	 New review: Demon; "This isn't necessary--let's just fix the problems and move on." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36961
[12:31:30] 	 dalurka: i'm not sure what the "proper" way to fix your problem would be, since it involves stepping through the update code and seeing what went wrong
[12:31:46] 	 oh
[12:31:48] 	 dalurka: but you could try setting the column to nullable
[12:32:07] 	 is that okay to do?
[12:33:39] 	 Change abandoned: Hashar; "(no reason)" [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36968
[12:34:20] 	 dalurka: for some definition of "okay"
[12:34:30] 	 figuring out the underlying cause would be better, obviously
[12:34:48] 	 which is why i didn't reply sooner
[12:35:08] 	 should I report a bug?
[12:35:26] 	 yes! if you're fairly certain that you followed the steps correctly
[12:36:02] 	 I'm not sure what I've could have missed
[12:36:19] 	 unless there were some special steps for 1.20.x
[12:36:46] 	 did an upgrade from 1.18.0 -> 1.20.0 -> 1.20.1 -> 1.20.2 recently
[12:38:32] 	 03(mod) Turkish Wikisource: "VikiKaynak" could be "Vikikaynak" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42721  +comment (10Dereckson)
[12:41:29] 	 the thing is that it shows up in the deletion log as deleted but it is not done..and I think I've read that the security patch in 1.20.1 was related to that
[12:41:50] 	 I have deleted a page multiple times and it's logged even
[12:42:54] 	 03(mod) Hide anons and logged in users filters don't work with Wikidata changes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42475  (10Jens Ohlig)
[12:43:17] 	 New review: Tychay; "Oops! :-)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17952
[12:45:32] 	 03(mod) Cannot select aggregate group in Project selector - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42646  +comment (10Siebrand)
[12:46:53] 	 dalurka: :D
[12:50:15] 	 New review: Zfilipin; "I will make the changes that I have suggested inline and amend the commit." [qa/browsertests] (master); V: 0 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36900
[12:51:49] 	 Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36957
[12:59:46] 	 Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36920
[13:03:14] 	 New review: Reedy; "This is fine. Though, the point release changelog needs bringing in to this history files, as well a..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36733
[13:03:15] 	 Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36733
[13:03:36] 	 New review: Siebrand; "@Krinkle: The proper response here isn't adding forced bureaucracy. Tried to explain to your mother ..." [mediawiki/core] (refs/meta/config); V: 0 C: -2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36815
[13:04:16] 	 03(NEW) Update HISTORY with point release changes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42723 enhancement; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; ()
[13:04:21] 	 03(mod) Documentation is out of date, incomplete (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/1  (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[13:05:14] 	 03(mod) Update HISTORY with point release changes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42723  (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[13:06:02] 	 03(mod) Update HISTORY with point release changes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42723  (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[13:08:41] 	 New review: Krinkle; "(going off topic)" [mediawiki/core] (refs/meta/config); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36815
[13:08:42] 	 New patchset: Santhosh; "Make the load all messages button in group selector work." [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36965
[13:12:47] 	 03(mod) next button does nothing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42640  +comment (10Lupo)
[13:13:04] 	 New review: Hashar; "recheck" [mediawiki/extensions/LiquidThreads] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27553
[13:13:55] 	 New review: Siebrand; "I guess we have a different view on the subject." [mediawiki/core] (refs/meta/config); V: 0 C: -2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36815
[13:15:38] 	 New patchset: Aude; "Base class for objects accessign databases." [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf5) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36989
[13:15:38] 	 New patchset: Aude; "Fix per-connection database name in DBAccessBase." [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf5) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36990
[13:19:34] 	 New review: Hashar; "I too would like us to enforce that kind of rules, if you could even make it so that a huge unicorn ..." [mediawiki/core] (refs/meta/config); V: 0 C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36815
[13:22:27] 	 New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Add PHPUnit tests for JsonSchema class" [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35585
[13:22:54] 	 hashar: ok, now what?
[13:23:40] 	 Hi guys! How do I enable jquery wiki tooltips as in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain ? I couldn't find any simple info
[13:24:04] 	 I want to enable them on another mediawiki project running 1.20
[13:24:09] 	 New patchset: Zfilipin; "Extend edit test" [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36900
[13:25:02] 	 New review: Zfilipin; "I have made the changes that I have suggested. Please review." [qa/browsertests] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36900
[13:28:33] 	 New review: Ori.livneh; "Hashar made me do it again." [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master); V: 0 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35585
[13:31:39] 	 paolob: What do you mean by wiki tooltips?
[13:32:52] 	 Reedy, excuse me, I mean references tooltips
[13:33:03] 	 !e Cite
[13:33:03] 	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Cite
[13:33:06] 	 New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Add PHPUnit tests for JsonSchema class" [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35585
[13:33:32] 	 New review: Ori.livneh; "Hashar didn't make me do it this time, but it's still his fault." [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master); V: 0 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35585
[13:33:36] 	 Reedy, it doesn't explain how to enable jquery tooltips
[13:33:48] 	 It's part of the extension IIRC
[13:33:50] 	 New patchset: Siebrand; "More or less different PHPDoc" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36993
[13:35:26] 	 Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf5) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36990
[13:35:26] 	 Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf5) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36989
[13:36:11] 	 New review: Ori.livneh; "Jenkins made me do it" [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35585
[13:36:25] 	 03(NEW) Update PHPUnit from 3.6.x to 3.7.10 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42724 normal; Wikimedia: Testing Infrastructure; ()
[13:36:49] 	 hashar: thanks!
[13:36:59] 	 New patchset: Pginer; "Thinner progress bars" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36996
[13:37:01] * Reedy  upstreams ori-l
[13:37:05] 	 03(mod) Update PHPUnit from 3.6.x to 3.7.10 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42724  (10Ori Livneh)
[13:37:11] 	 03(mod) Update PHPUnit from 3.6.x to 3.7.10 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42724  (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[13:37:44] * ori-l  backports Reedy
[13:37:47] 	 Change merged: Nikerabbit; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36735
[13:43:13] 	 New patchset: Siebrand; "Update misleading variable names in docs" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36997
[13:43:35] 	 03(mod) Update PHPUnit from 3.6.x to 3.7.10 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42724  +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[13:44:38] 	 03(mod) Text layer of DjVu files doesn't appear in Page namespace due to higher memory consumption after upgrade to Ubuntu 12.04 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42466  -code-update-regression ; summary; +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[13:44:52] 	 03(mod) Text layer of DjVu files doesn't appear in Page namespace due to higher memory consumption after upgrade to Ubuntu 12.04 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42466  (10Andre Klapper)
[13:47:51] 	 03(mod) Duplicate translation notifications are generated - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42715  +comment (10Tilman Bayer)
[13:51:30] 	 03(mod) Add support for deploying per-datacenter config variances - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39082  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[13:57:37] 	 New review: Hashar; "Looks good to me :)" [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master); V: 0 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35585
[13:57:47] 	 So I installed 1.20.0 last night successfully (I thought), but now I'm discovering that DefaultSettings.php and LocalSettings.php are nowhere to be found. The wiki otherwise works fine for me
[13:58:02] 	 Well, except for the fact that in 8 hours I've had over 100 spam bots register
[13:58:27] 	 03(mod) JobQueueDB::claimRandom seems very slow with lots of jobs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42614  (10Tilman Bayer)
[13:58:30] 	 Change merged: Hashar; [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35585
[13:58:59] 	 Roots_: If it's working, you must have a LocalSettings.php
[13:59:07] 	 That's what I thought
[13:59:10] 	 MediaWiki will go into installation mode if you don't.
[13:59:26] 	 New patchset: Pginer; "CSS fixes for layout and style" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36996
[13:59:27] 	 It should be in your root directory. DefaultSettings.php is in /includes/
[13:59:41] 	 (but you shouldn't need to touch that)
[14:00:22] 	 I see DefaultSettings.php in /includes, but still no LocalSettings.php to be found. This is really weird.
[14:01:36] 	 03(mod) $wgExternalLinkTarget = ‘_blank’ doesn't work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35808  (10Andre Klapper)
[14:01:50] 	 03(mod) parserTests.php doesn't like git - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35648  (10Andre Klapper)
[14:01:54] 	 03(mod) Article::delete() calls - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35640  (10Andre Klapper)
[14:01:56] 	 03(mod) [Regression] opensearch API on de.wikisource stopped indexing new pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36035  (10Andre Klapper)
[14:01:58] 	 Roots_: Hmm.
[14:01:59] 	 03(mod) Wrong language in redlink tooltip - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35921  (10Andre Klapper)
[14:01:59] 	 03(mod) Robot policy set twice in Special:Watchlist class - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35449  (10Andre Klapper)
[14:02:03] 	 03(mod) [Regression] User account "account-name" is not registered. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35171  (10Andre Klapper)
[14:02:21] 	 Yeah, I'm scratching my head too. It makes no sense
[14:03:14] 	 ah, there it is
[14:03:28] 	 That's really weird. My FTP client doesn't see it, but my file manager in cpanel does
[14:04:03] 	 Perhaps your FTP client is lagged? Or applying an odd sort order?
[14:04:13] 	 Now after reconnecting the FTP client sees it...
[14:04:14] 	 or cached?
[14:04:53] 	 Oh well, problem solved, thanks. I think it might be an issue with my hosting provider. We migrated to a new server a few days ago and last night it looked like the site was bouncing back and forth between its new home and its old one
[14:05:27] 	 03(mod) Duplicate translation notifications are generated - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42715  +comment (10Siebrand)
[14:07:22] 	 03(mod) Enable database profiling support on dev and test - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42542  (10abraham.taherivand)
[14:08:55] 	 Now I just need to figure out how to stop the spammers and delete all of these bogus accounts
[14:08:58] 	 !spam
[14:08:58] 	 For information about combating and handling spam in MediaWiki, see  and .
[14:09:12] 	 New patchset: Nikerabbit; "GettextFFS: Empty msgctxt must be different from no msgctxt" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37001
[14:09:23] 	 thanks :)
[14:10:06] 	 New patchset: Pginer; "CSS fixes for layout and style" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36996
[14:16:55] 	 03(mod) img_auth.php should have "Expires: 0", "Pragma: cache" for IE and SSL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/25009  summary; +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[14:22:04] 	 03(mod) missing language code uz-latn - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42397  04CRIT->15enhancement; +comment (10denny vrandecic)
[14:22:54] 	 New patchset: Siebrand; "Update docs for DifferenceEngine::getDiff()" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37004
[14:24:18] 	 03(mod) next button does nothing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42640  (10j.nailor)
[14:24:45] 	 03(mod) next button does nothing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42640  (10j.nailor)
[14:25:00] 	 03(mod) spec how to link to items from wikitext on the repo - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39191  (10denny vrandecic)
[14:25:27] 	 03(mod) extension/Diff: Diff class needs more unit tests - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39010  (10denny vrandecic)
[14:26:31] 	 03(mod) Wikibase.sql should define all tables needed by Wikibase - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42718  (10denny vrandecic)
[14:26:37] 	 03(mod) Wikibase.sql should define all tables needed by Wikibase - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42718  normal->major (10denny vrandecic)
[14:26:41] 	 New patchset: J; "Use async upload-from-stash" [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36768
[14:26:59] 	 03(mod) maintenance script for rebuilding secondary tables - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42717  normal->major (10denny vrandecic)
[14:27:00] 	 New patchset: Zfilipin; "Cleanup: moved pages to one folder, deleted duplicates" [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37005
[14:27:00] 	 New patchset: Zfilipin; "Cleanup: deleted unused files and gems" [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37006
[14:28:01] 	 03(mod) updater fails if db tables missing but entities already present. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42716  (10denny vrandecic)
[14:28:47] 	 03(mod) AddRowIDs.sql fails on sqlite - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42689  (10denny vrandecic)
[14:29:16] 	 03(mod) AddTermSearchKey.sql fails on sqlite - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42688  (10denny vrandecic)
[14:30:19] 	 03(mod) User preferences for viewing recent changes with external updates (13) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40568  (10abraham.taherivand)
[14:33:50] 	 03(mod) Special page to list which pages on a site are linked to an item - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42674  normal->15enhancement (10denny vrandecic)
[14:34:05] 	 03(mod) When in read only mode, do not display editing features - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42656  (10denny vrandecic)
[14:36:49] 	 03(mod) Site link used error is confusing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42645   +need-volunteer (10denny vrandecic)
[14:37:22] 	 03(NEW) Multimedia support (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42725 normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; ()
[14:37:35] 	 03(mod) Placeholder for bugs related to security audit of CLIENT - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42627  (10denny vrandecic)
[14:39:12] 	 03(mod) Placeholder for bugs related to security audit of CLIENT - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42627  normal->major (10denny vrandecic)
[14:39:40] 	 03(mod) Placeholder for bugs related to security audit of REPO - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42626  normal->04CRIT (10denny vrandecic)
[14:40:08] 	 03(NEW) Project selector categories toggle when clicking twice - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42726 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Translate; ()
[14:40:19] 	 03(mod) Project selector categories toggle when clicking twice - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42726   +i18n (10Pau Giner)
[14:41:26] 	 03(mod) Multimedia support (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42725   +tracking (10Jean-Fred)
[14:41:27] 	 03(mod) Allow uploading of Blender or other 3D files to Wikimedia Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/1790  (10Jean-Fred)
[14:41:28] 	 03(mod) Tracking bug (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/2007  (10Jean-Fred)
[14:41:34] 	 03(mod) Whitelist OASIS OpenDocument file format - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/2089  (10Jean-Fred)
[14:41:36] 	 03(mod) Add support for JPEG 2000 images - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/11871  (10Jean-Fred)
[14:41:37] 	 03(mod) Support for Chemical Markup Language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/16491  (10Jean-Fred)
[14:41:40] 	 03(mod) No High Dynamic Range Image (HDRI) file formats allowed on Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/17505  (10Jean-Fred)
[14:41:42] 	 03(mod) Provide EPUB sanitizer - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/17858  (10Jean-Fred)
[14:41:42] 	 03(mod) Allow Scribus (.sla / .sla.gz) file uploads on Wikimedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/18845  (10Jean-Fred)
[14:41:43] 	 03(mod) Enable dng uploads on Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/19153  (10Jean-Fred)
[14:41:47] 	 03(mod) Add support for KML/KMZ filetype - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/26059  (10Jean-Fred)
[14:41:49] 	 03(mod) FLAC audio support via TimedMediaHandler (transcode to oga) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32103  (10Jean-Fred)
[14:41:50] 	 03(mod) Apple Lossless (ALAC) audio support via TimedMediaHandler (transcode to oga) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32104  (10Jean-Fred)
[14:41:52] 	 03(mod) WAV audio support via TimedMediaHandler - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32135  (10Jean-Fred)
[14:41:52] 	 03(mod) TimedMediaHandler: video transcode to MP4/H.264 support - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39867  (10Jean-Fred)
[14:41:53] 	 03(mod) Support for Opus audio format - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40193  (10Jean-Fred)
[14:43:31] 	 03(mod) next button does nothing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42640  +comment (10Lupo)
[14:44:06] 	 03(mod) Qunit tests for the creation and display of statements - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42576  (10denny vrandecic)
[14:44:23] 	 03(mod) Qunit tests for the creation and display of statements - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42576   +need-unittest (10denny vrandecic)
[14:44:40] 	 03(mod) Make MediaCommons datatype displayed as a link to Commons in the front end - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42574  (10denny vrandecic)
[14:44:52] 	 03(mod) Improve the styling of statements that are being created and edited - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42572  (10denny vrandecic)
[14:48:28] 	 03(mod) Enable creating statements with properties of the item type in the front end - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42571  +comment (10Daniel Werner)
[14:49:36] 	 03(mod) Add 'ipblock-exempt' userright to the Bot usergroup in cswiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42720  -shellpolicy +shell; +comment (10Dereckson)
[14:49:44] 	 03(mod) next button does nothing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42640  (10j.nailor)
[14:51:05] 	 if anyone feels like reviewing the latest version of https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35401 by the way, i'd be most grateful
[14:54:32] 	 Anyone know how I can download sections of my media wiki for offline use?
[14:55:11] 	 03(NEW) Error in message - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42727 normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; ()
[14:55:20] 	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Merged master into 1.9.x" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37008
[14:55:41] 	 Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37008
[14:56:01] 	 03(mod) Error in message - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42727  (10Anatoliy Goncharov)
[14:57:05] 	 Lisa_: How big sections? And in what form?
[14:58:24] 	 about 40 pages in one category, each page has multiple headers, some pages have images
[14:58:36] 	 03(mod) Error in message - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42727   +easy +i18n (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[14:58:49] 	 I've been able to find plug-ins and ways to make books and so on with other wiki-managers, but not with media wiki
[14:59:00] 	 03(mod) CentralAuth: Username not substituted in Centralauth-renameuser-merged message - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42727  summary (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[14:59:10] 	 Lisa_: MediaWiki has a books (i.e. PDF export) extension
[14:59:21] 	 !extension Collection
[14:59:21] 	 MediaWiki has been built so it can easily be customized by adding extensions. This is usually a simple process. See http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Extensions for instructions to install extensions, as well as for writing them. See http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_Matrix for an overview of known extensions.
[14:59:40] 	 Oh, anyway, it's the Collection extension
[14:59:55] 	 New review: J; "after replacing getCurrentStatus/setCurrentStatus with get/setSessionStatus files are published but ..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36697
[15:00:09] 	 Thanks a million you guys
[15:00:40] 	 Lisa_: Do shout if you have any trouble getting it up and running
[15:06:06] 	 New patchset: Siebrand; "Use WikiPage::factory instead of new Article" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37010
[15:13:24] 	 !e Collection | Jarry1250
[15:13:24] 	  Jarry1250: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Collection
[15:13:59] 	 03(mod) Multimedia support (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42725  (10Darxus)
[15:22:45] 	 03(mod) Make sure all db tables have a unique column - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42684  (10abraham.taherivand)
[15:23:04] 	 Reedy: Aha :)
[15:23:13] 	 03(mod) Allow wikibase to operate without the term_search_key column - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42683  (10abraham.taherivand)
[15:24:05] 	 03(mod) Declare wb_terms fields to be binary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42682  (10abraham.taherivand)
[15:29:03] 	 New review: Cmcmahon; "maintenance" [qa/browsertests] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36982
[15:29:03] 	 Change merged: Cmcmahon; [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36982
[15:34:23] 	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "updated gitreview to point to master again" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37015
[15:34:39] 	 Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37015
[15:35:09] 	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Fixed failing tests" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37016
[15:35:43] 	 New review: Mwjames; "Do I have to resubmit this one to get into the master branch now?" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (1.9.x); V: 1 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36338
[15:35:45] 	 New patchset: Siebrand; "Update/correct/add docs" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37017
[15:35:46] 	 New patchset: Siebrand; "Remove unused para $db for getMarkedTag and getReadyTag" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37018
[15:35:57] 	 Is there an addon that lets me insert a form into a page that collects queryable data that's separate for each logged-in user?
[15:36:13] 	 03(NEW) Entity-Selector layout broken on Firefox on Ubuntu - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42728 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; ()
[15:36:37] 	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Fixed failing tests" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37016
[15:36:58] 	 New review: Cmcmahon; "delete unused files/gems/settings for hygiene" [qa/browsertests] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37006
[15:38:15] 	 New review: Cmcmahon; "page object file hygiene" [qa/browsertests] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37005
[15:38:40] 	 New patchset: Aude; "Update Wikibase, Diff and add DataValues" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf5) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37019
[15:45:11] 	 New patchset: Hashar; "test: detects parent setUp not being called" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29506
[15:45:20] 	 03(mod) Make pollForChanges check if site tables have been populated - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42681  (10abraham.taherivand)
[15:46:58] 	 03(mod) Selenium tests for the creation and display of statements - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42575  (10abraham.taherivand)
[15:47:22] 	 03(mod) Fatal error when calling api.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42546  (10abraham.taherivand)
[15:47:44] 	 New review: J; "PublishStashedFile.php" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36697
[15:48:49] 	 03(mod) Label of Special:EntityData is broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42545  (10abraham.taherivand)
[15:49:07] 	 03(mod) Why is 127.0.0.1 on dev-client hidden when Wikidata is hidden? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42544  (10abraham.taherivand)
[15:49:19] 	 New patchset: Parent5446; "Changed LoginForm::addNewaccountInternal() to return Status." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17952
[15:49:34] 	 New patchset: Parent5446; "Added account creation API." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/18127
[15:49:36] 	 New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "You could do that. Alternatively we can merge it into 1.9.x and then cherry pick it." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (1.9.x); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36338
[15:49:40] 	 03(mod) Hide anons and logged in users filters don't work with Wikidata changes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42475  (10abraham.taherivand)
[15:50:44] 	 03(mod) It's unclear which language should be used in Special:CreateItem - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41001  (10abraham.taherivand)
[15:51:01] 	 03(mod) Editing a value in a statement (5) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40953  (10abraham.taherivand)
[15:51:06] 	 Good day. I periodically wind up with a database error because of the objectcache table filling up. I cleaned out the objectcache a couple days ago, and I've got 3143 items with an expiration date of 2038-01-19, 1079 for tomorrow, and 272 for today. I didn't dump the objectcache last time I got an error, because I didn't know what I was looking for. What might be creating all these objects with an expiration date that far out?  
[15:51:06] 	 0,00Most of them seem to contain the string " wikidb:resourceloader:filter:minify-js:7:"
[15:51:33] 	 03(mod) Enable creating statements with properties of the item type in the front end - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42571  (10abraham.taherivand)
[15:51:40] 	 k4jcw_: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:ResourceLoader#Cache_consumption_20440
[15:52:01] 	 New review: Parent5446; "I agree with this. I'd also like to know what the point of UIDGenerator is in the first place." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36961
[15:53:23] 	 Excellent, thank you.
[15:55:36] 	 New review: Mwjames; "Thanks, I beginning to like the test stuff even though it fails." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master); V: 1 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37016
[15:56:33] 	 Change merged: Mwjames; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37016
[15:56:41] 	 Hallo. I am trying to save options using api.post( { action: 'options', optionname: 'uls-preferences', optionvalue: 'Le Value', token: '' } ).
[15:56:56] 	 And I get the warning: "Not a valid preference: uls-preferences"
[15:57:02] 	 How can I get it recognized?
[15:58:07] 	 I already have a preference with the same name in the user_properties table and I also have <$wgDefaultUserOptions['uls-preferences'] = ''> in the extension's main PHP file.
[15:59:12] 	 aharoni: Something like $wgHooks['GetPreferences'][] = 'WikiEditorHooks::getPreferences';
[15:59:14] 	 iirc
[15:59:30] 	 "Adds WikiEditor-releated items to the preferences"
[15:59:46] 	 I thought about it, but the Translate extension seems to do without it.
[15:59:55] 	 Not just obfuscated? ;)
[15:59:56] 	 New patchset: Parent5446; "Changed LoginForm::addNewaccountInternal() to return Status." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17952
[16:00:17] 	 I've got a simple blog template that works fine.  I also have a page that lists available blogs, including the title, the name of the person, and a preview of the text.  I use {{#sub...}} to get some of the text to show, but that's not going to work because if I split the wrong thing (like a 
...
), things go bad. Does anyone have a way to do previews that's safe? [16:00:39] aharoni: [16:00:39] $wgHooks['GetPreferences'][] = 'TranslatePreferences::onGetPreferences'; [16:00:39] $wgHooks['GetPreferences'][] = 'TranslatePreferences::translationAssistLanguages'; [16:00:39] $wgHooks['GetPreferences'][] = 'TranslatePreferences::translationJsedit'; [16:00:43] It's got 3 ;) [16:01:03] New patchset: Parent5446; "Added account creation API." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/18127 [16:01:46] oh, thanks. [16:06:02] andre__, https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42700 wontfix seems like the wrong resolution here... it implies that the issue is confirmed but the devs refuse to fix it [16:06:18] New patchset: Siebrand; "Use WikiPage::factory instead of new Article" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37010 [16:06:32] New patchset: Siebrand; "Update/correct/add docs" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37017 [16:06:41] New patchset: Mwjames; "Consolidation/clean-up subobject parser class" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37020 [16:06:43] New patchset: Siebrand; "Remove unused para $db for getMarkedTag and getReadyTag" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37018 [16:07:27] New patchset: Siebrand; "Replace deprecated wfMsg* methods." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27055 [16:07:42] 03(mod) Placeholder for bugs related to security audit of REPO - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42626 (10denny vrandecic) [16:08:15] Krenair: Does it matter? In case it's a valid issue it will not get fixed. In case it's not a valid issue it will not get fixed either. [16:09:13] New review: Siebrand; "Needs test." [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37001 [16:10:36] 03(mod) Placeholder for bugs related to security audit of REPO - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42626 +comment (10denny vrandecic) [16:10:46] 03(mod) Placeholder for bugs related to security audit of CLIENT - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42627 (10denny vrandecic) [16:11:16] Change abandoned: Mwjames; "It seems, I have to die one way or the other. " [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (1.9.x) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36338 [16:13:19] New review: Mwjames; "Nothing has changed since [1] " [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master); V: 1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37020 [16:16:53] 03(mod) Enable database profiling support on dev and test - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42542 (10abraham.taherivand) [16:16:54] New review: Cmcmahon; "extend test coverage for editin" [qa/browsertests] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36900 [16:18:50] New patchset: Cmcmahon; "Extend edit test" [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36900 [16:19:05] New review: Cmcmahon; "rebased" [qa/browsertests] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36900 [16:19:05] Change merged: Cmcmahon; [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36900 [16:19:32] 03(NEW) UW master not compatible with MW 1.20.x - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42729 major; MediaWiki extensions: UploadWizard; () [16:22:09] New patchset: Kghbln; "Amended several system messages" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37022 [16:22:31] New patchset: Zfilipin; "Cleanup: moved pages to one folder, deleted duplicates" [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37005 [16:23:03] New review: Zfilipin; "fixed merge conflict" [qa/browsertests] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37005 [16:23:03] Change merged: Zfilipin; [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37005 [16:24:07] 03(mod) next button does nothing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42640 +comment (10Lupo) [16:25:47] New review: Alex Monk; "Caused bug 42729 - UW master not compatible with MW 1.20.x" [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31218 [16:27:12] 03(mod) Install asciidoc on gallium - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42696 normal->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [16:27:31] New patchset: J; "localize language based on uselang, better 404 title" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36765 [16:27:35] New review: Cmcmahon; "oh gerrit you so crazy" [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37005 [16:27:37] New patchset: Zfilipin; "Cleanup: deleted unused files and gems" [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37006 [16:28:12] New review: Cmcmahon; "gerrit is weird" [qa/browsertests] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37006 [16:28:12] Change merged: Cmcmahon; [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37006 [16:29:02] 03(mod) Don't run WRITE operations in ORMRowTest when testing on a Client instance - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42494 (10abraham.taherivand) [16:29:36] hi all [16:29:43] 03(mod) Write script that queries the database for entity artifacts (5) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42150 (10abraham.taherivand) [16:30:06] 03(mod) Why is 127.0.0.1 on dev-client hidden when Wikidata is hidden? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42544 +comment (10denny vrandecic) [16:30:23] many thanks for the mediawiki language extension bundle ! this realy simplifies i18n [16:31:40] lessyv: what is that? [16:32:10] jenkins-bot gives +1 code review now? [16:32:15] MLEB, which encapsulate the universal language selector, the translate extension and so on : http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MLEB [16:33:28] but I can't find a way to toggle the language in my page-content translated with "Translate" extension when I switch language with ULS in the language selector those two extensions aren't plugged together ? [16:35:17] 03(mod) UW master not compatible with MW 1.20.x - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42729 +comment (10Jeroen De Dauw) [16:35:49] I see, without installing it and tessting it cant find what is that [16:35:59] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37022 [16:36:32] mmm it doesn't work on http://translatewiki.net neither so it's probably not possible actually [16:38:38] New patchset: Zfilipin; "Refactoring: clean up old pages imported from RSpec" [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37023 [16:40:39] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Make use of numParams method" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/21663 [16:40:45] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/21663 [16:41:03] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Revert "Remove use of Language::numParams"" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28524 [16:41:29] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28524 [16:41:49] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Replace deprecated wfMsg* methods." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27055 [16:42:09] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "Thanks for the patch, and sorry it took so long before we could merge it :)" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27055 [16:42:12] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27055 [16:44:06] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "We are now at 1.9.x" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37024 [16:44:09] 03(mod) Create “add link” dialog (5) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40949 (10abraham.taherivand) [16:44:16] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37024 [16:45:29] 03(mod) activate Article Feedback Tool on de.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42693 +comment (10se4598) [16:45:33] New review: Cmcmahon; "refactoring, identifier names and abstraction" [qa/browsertests] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37023 [16:45:33] Change merged: Cmcmahon; [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37023 [16:49:18] New patchset: Lwelling; "Initial version of GuidedTour as a MediaWiki extension" [mediawiki/extensions/GuidedTour] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35399 [16:49:54] Reedy: about my previous question... if I don't want the options to be accessible from Special:Preferences, but only stored in the db and modified via my extension, what I should put in the $preferences array? [16:50:06] there's no useful value for 'section', for example. [16:50:11] Mark it hidden? [16:50:16] I am trying to convert text to a mediawiki then pasting the wiki to a site running mediawiki. [16:50:22] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Bump version to 1.9 alpha" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37025 [16:50:26] $wgHiddenPrefs [16:50:41] Feels like a hack though :/ [16:50:46] 03(mod) UW master not compatible with MW 1.20.x - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42729 +comment (10Lupo) [16:51:03] I thought about it, and it did look like a hack. And there's nothing better? [16:51:29] I am trying to convert text to a mediawiki then pasting the wiki to a [16:52:47] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "bug 42324 Better support for sqlite" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34572 [16:52:52] 03(NEW) Error creating thumbnail: Unable to save thumbnail to destination on 1.19 + - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42730 normal; MediaWiki: File management; () [16:53:21] New review: Mwjames; "Thanks ... finally ..." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37025 [16:53:22] Change merged: Mwjames; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37025 [16:54:07] New patchset: Jarry1250; "Extend meta=messagegroups API function + better tests" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/19457 [16:56:17] New patchset: Zfilipin; "Refactoring: using Ruby 1.9 hash syntax everywhere" [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37026 [16:56:20] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "See my inline comments on PS1. PS2 is rebase against master." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34572 [16:57:53] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Style fix" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37027 [16:57:59] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37027 [16:59:39] New review: Cmcmahon; "no more arrows for hashes, use colons instead" [qa/browsertests] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37026 [16:59:39] Change merged: Cmcmahon; [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37026 [16:59:47] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticWatchlist] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35202 [17:02:33] 03(mod) WAV audio support via TimedMediaHandler - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32135 +comment (10Marco) [17:02:44] New patchset: Krinkle; "Add cancel button to VisualEditor MediaWiki integration." [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36934 [17:05:23] 03(mod) Apple Lossless (ALAC) audio support via TimedMediaHandler (transcode to oga) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32104 +comment (10Marco) [17:05:41] 03(mod) FLAC audio support via TimedMediaHandler (transcode to oga) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32103 (10Marco) [17:07:08] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "Anyone remaining concerns with this code?" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34071 [17:07:48] 03(mod) ULS: JSON loading problems (Access-Control-Allow-Origin) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41489 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [17:10:41] 03(mod) Feedback link on article pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42057 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [17:10:46] New review: Krinkle; "-1 for adding/removing classes with javascript instead of simply using :hover and/or :active." [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36934 [17:13:40] Hi! I was just pulling the latest Wikidata stuff to our demo server and now I have an error message "MessageCache failed to load messages". I tried the maintenance/rebuildmessages script but that didn't help. Does anyone have a hint for me? [17:15:24] Reedy: $wgHiddenPrefs is not just a hack - it just don't work. Preferences::getPreferences deletes all $wgHiddenPrefs, so they don't get to ApiOptions. [17:15:38] Do you have any other idea that doesn't involve making a core change? [17:16:29] <^demon> Well, that's how $wgHiddenPrefs is supposed to work. It doesn't *just hide them from Special:Prefs*, contrary to popular belief. [17:16:38] <^demon> I wrote it the way it should be--actually remove the whole pref ;-) [17:17:09] 03(mod) Add wfProfileIn/wfProfileOut calls where necessary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41520 (10abraham.taherivand) [17:18:54] so is there a way to have something stored in the db, not appearing in Special:Prefs, and accessible through API? [17:20:04] 03(mod) TermSqlCache deadlocks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42547 (10abraham.taherivand) [17:20:47] 03(mod) Enhanced watchlist shows inconsistent behavior when showing "minor" and "bot" flag for multiple changes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37263 +comment (10Umherirrender) [17:21:23] time for $wgReallyHiddenPrefs?:P [17:21:35] 03(mod) [Regression] Show special cursor for expanding/collapsing in enhanced wachtlist/recent changes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36211 +comment (10Umherirrender) [17:21:57] aharoni: why would you want that? [17:22:11] sounds like an obvious hack [17:22:18] well, maybe it was a problematic design from the start... [17:22:27] yeah, what's the bigger picture here? [17:22:42] but we store all the Universal Language Selector preferences in a big JSON object. [17:23:19] Nikerabbit, siebrand - correct me if i'm wrong. [17:23:43] these settings are supposed to be usable to anonymous users, too, so for anons we store them in a cookie. [17:24:37] using JSON for both anons and loggen-in users looked kinda useful until now, but now I noticed - late-ish - that it doesn't actually work for users with accounts. [17:25:03] 03(mod) Implement image tracking in the monuments database - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37455 (10Marco74) [17:26:08] 03(mod) Feedback link on article pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42057 +comment (10Matthias Mullie) [17:27:24] ^^Google basically gives me code snippets, not explanations... [17:28:01] New patchset: Adamw; "Another test analytics suite" [wikimedia/fundraising/tools] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36951 [17:30:34] New patchset: Zfilipin; "Cleanup: using single quotes where double quotes are not needed" [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37030 [17:32:49] New review: Cmcmahon; "hygiene" [qa/browsertests] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37030 [17:32:49] Change merged: Cmcmahon; [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37030 [17:33:26] 03(NEW) Ugly dot shown when "See Also:" Bugzilla field is non-empty - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42731 trivial; Wikimedia: Bugzilla; () [17:33:33] j^: have you had a chance to retest https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/34062/13 ? [17:33:38] (the first commit) [17:34:04] 03(mod) Non-working template braces get wrapped in after round-trip - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42353 +comment (10Gabriel Wicke) [17:34:06] 03(mod) Parsoid: Wikitext escaping tracker bug - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39254 (10Gabriel Wicke) [17:35:00] the later one is still kind of WIP [17:35:21] !seen cmcmahon [17:35:34] I'm asking here because the error seems to come from core, not from Wikidata. [17:36:00] chrismcmahon: hi, ping [17:36:14] hi sumanah [17:37:19] AaronSchulz: tested it with with the other one and it seamed to still work, can look at the code again tomorrow, now heading out [17:37:29] sumanah: btw, I have to say I lolled at "Isn't open source rockin'?" [17:37:45] Change merged: Adamw; [wikimedia/fundraising/tools] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36951 [17:38:46] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Increased awesomeness" [mediawiki/extensions/Awesomeness] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37031 [17:38:53] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Awesomeness] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37031 [17:39:27] New patchset: Zfilipin; "Bug: one line was commented out by mistake" [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37032 [17:39:38] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "Added async upload-from-stash support." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36697 [17:39:39] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "[Upload] Added async upload concatenation support." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34062 [17:41:24] Krinkle, ^demon, Reedy - the funny thing is that it looks like it's possible to save options through the User object, and the Preferences::getPreferences check is only done in the API. [17:42:28] aharoni: So only server side code can insert things. That keeps it limited, as long as said server side code does not carelessly expose this to an API. [17:42:51] it could be restricted further, but that it isn't means it should be opened more. [17:43:07] ... and the ULS is almost completely client-side. Hmmm. [17:43:22] well, you cant click a button on the server side [17:43:45] aharoni: btw, if you're into prefs for gadgets (which I suspect you're working with/towards), there is an open bug for it. [17:44:25] not really, although it's probably similar. [17:44:36] using native user prefs for that is not good, as it'll likely pollute the database, conflict with other gadgets and core/extensions. And needs proper validation presumably. [17:44:43] okay, nevermind hten :) [17:44:52] 03(mod) Display "Mobile Platform" custom field only for relevant products/components - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41197 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [17:46:36] 03(mod) ULS: JSON loading problems (Access-Control-Allow-Origin) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41489 +comment (10Niklas Laxström) [17:47:35] ULS is a full-blown extension and not a gadget. The thing is that most of its UI is about doing things that are very much like preferences. [17:48:10] Nikerabbit, if you're around, can you please make sure that I'm not talking nonsense? :) [17:49:37] Does anyone know if mediawiki can use sockets to communicate with memcached? It seems to only want to work with IP/Port. [17:50:24] 03(mod) Supporting MobileFrontend on beta labs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40605 +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [17:51:21] 03(mod) ULS Settings not getting saved - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41763 +comment (10Amir E. Aharoni) [17:51:32] New patchset: Zfilipin; "Refactoring: moved common step to background" [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37035 [17:52:22] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "Revert UIDGenerator commits." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36961 [17:52:45] New review: Aaron Schulz; "Updated summary" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36961 [17:53:18] Change merged: Krinkle; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36961 [17:55:10] New review: Aaron Schulz; "Depends on reverted commit." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36816 [17:55:30] Krinkle|detached: you beat me to it [17:55:37] I was wondering why it said "changed closed" [17:55:42] *change [17:55:50] I thought I broke it for a second ;) [17:57:10] New patchset: Zfilipin; "Refactoring: moved common step to background" [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37036 [18:01:08] preilly: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/16696/ [18:01:19] AaronSchulz: thanks [18:04:02] ^demon|away: ping [18:04:22] <^demon|away> pong. [18:06:31] ^demon|away: I'm annoyed about the email thread [Wikitech-l] Really Fast Merges that file was in the Gerrit repo for 132 days [18:06:44] ^demon|away: I'd hardly call that a fast merge [18:07:15] ^demon|away: It was originally introduced by AaronSchulz in https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/16696/ [18:07:31] <^demon|away> I didn't start the thread. However, I am annoyed at self-merging generally. [18:07:51] ^demon|away: yeah, I'd agree with that generally [18:08:15] ^demon|away: But, I needed to have that class available for the ATFv5 work [18:08:26] <^demon|away> I have no problem with the class being introduced. [18:08:28] ^demon|away: and deemed an exception necessary [18:08:40] ^demon|away: I didn't write the class AaronSchulz did [18:08:57] ^demon|away: anyways since you didn't start the thread I won't bother you [18:09:21] AaronSchulz: Do you know Tyler Romeo's IRC handle? [18:10:14] hmm, no [18:11:47] * ^demon|away goes back to his sketti [18:13:45] New patchset: Jarry1250; "Extend meta=messagegroups API function + better tests" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/19457 [18:16:38] New patchset: Zfilipin; "Do not open random pages, that causes failures sometimes" [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37038 [18:18:45] " using native user prefs for that is not good, as it'll likely pollute the database, conflict with other gadgets and core/extensions. And needs proper validation presumably." i'd like to see any sort of proof of validity of any of these statements. [18:18:55] :( [18:20:19] 03(NEW) nurhusien.hasen27@gmail.com - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42732 normal; Wikimedia: Bugzilla; () [18:20:29] New review: Mdale; "Was this tested? I thought the directive had to be applied above the css rule?" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36748 [18:20:29] 03(mod) Entity-Selector layout broken on Firefox on Ubuntu - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42728 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [18:20:58] New review: Victor Vasiliev; "I prefer that we stay on the safe side of the things. I perceive bad self-reviewed commit landing on..." [mediawiki/core] (refs/meta/config); V: 0 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36815 [18:24:06] New review: Reedy; "Does this change it for deployment branches too?" [mediawiki/core] (refs/meta/config); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36815 [18:24:11] New patchset: Kaldari; "Update UploadWizard to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf5) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37039 [18:27:00] New patchset: MaxSem; "Fix killlist handling, rename --clean-killlist to --clear-killlist" [mediawiki/extensions/GeoData] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36894 [18:27:49] New review: Aaron Schulz; "It may not be a problem for some people but I tend to have even comment changes that take too long t..." [mediawiki/core] (refs/meta/config); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36815 [18:31:52] New patchset: Kaldari; "Allowing notifications to support multiple predefined components in the payload." [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35593 [18:32:05] * Isarra takes away yuvipanda's s. [18:32:34] MY PRECIOUSSSSSSSSSSS [18:32:41] Ack! [18:32:47] This was what I feared! [18:32:55] it was a good one, you must say [18:33:30] Indeed. [18:33:43] 03(mod) Text layer of DjVu files doesn't appear in Page namespace due to higher memory consumption after upgrade to Ubuntu 12.04 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42466 +comment (10Tpt) [18:34:42] 03(mod) nurhusien.hasen27@gmail.com - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42732 (10Krenair) [18:36:22] New review: Cmcmahon; "fix mistake/typo" [qa/browsertests] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37032 [18:36:22] Change merged: Cmcmahon; [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37032 [18:37:08] <^demon|away> Krenair: Could've been someone who didn't exactly know what they're doing. Best idea is to AGF and ask for clarification. [18:37:13] New review: Cmcmahon; "DRY" [qa/browsertests] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37035 [18:37:13] Change merged: Cmcmahon; [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37035 [18:37:15] <^demon|away> If they respond like an idiot, then INVALID :) [18:37:46] New review: Cmcmahon; "more DRY" [qa/browsertests] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37036 [18:37:47] Change merged: Cmcmahon; [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37036 [18:37:49] How would an idiot respond? [18:38:32] New review: Cmcmahon; "prevent flakiness by not using random page" [qa/browsertests] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37038 [18:38:32] Change merged: Cmcmahon; [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37038 [18:39:31] 03(mod) nurhusien.hasen27@gmail.com - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42732 +comment (10Krenair) [18:39:35] Hi! Is it possible to change the title attribute of an internal link? When I use [[Page|Text]], the title for the link is "Page". Is there any way to change this= [18:40:06] 03(mod) ULS Settings not getting saved - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41763 +comment (10Siebrand) [18:40:15] ^demon|away, guess so. replied [18:40:17] 03(mod) Supporting MobileFrontend on beta labs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40605 +comment (10Tomasz Finc) [18:40:19] Harmageddon: no, the title is always the same as link target [18:40:34] Harmageddon: for workaround you could check extension NoTitle [18:40:34] MatmaRex: Okay, thank you! [18:40:47] Is there any equivalent to the jQuery load event that I can use in a widget? [18:41:05] Harmageddon: you can use inside of the link text as a workaround [18:42:02] Change merged: Hashar; [mediawiki/extensions/GeoData] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35832 [18:42:02] Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/extensions/GeoData] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36892 [18:42:02] Change merged: Brion VIBBER; [mediawiki/extensions/GeoData] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35831 [18:42:15] ^ what. [18:42:27] Ulfr: is there a reason why you can't use that one? [18:42:29] Why does the vector skin use a 67byte 1px data:image/png for the body background? [18:42:41] MatmaRex: Because it doesn't work :( [18:42:48] Isarra: Because repeating a small image is easy [18:42:50] Ulfr: without jQuery, that would be "document.body.addEventListener('load', function(){}, true)" [18:43:07] how do you reference a headline within the same page? [18:43:08] Ulfr: It's one pixel! It's the same colour as the already set background colour. [18:43:16] MatmaRex: I has jQuery though. I just can't kick off a load event [18:43:29] Isarra: wild guess: not to show the background if images are not loaded? [18:43:31] ah [18:43:34] Is there some incredibly stupid browser failing this is to workaround, or is this just trying to make it harder for people to turn their wikis yellow. [18:43:35] ? [18:43:40] is it's so, then that doesn't make sense, then. [18:43:48] LedHed: [[#Headline]] ? [18:43:49] Isarra: I believe there's a rule against that, but I can't say for sure [18:43:56] LedHed: i'm not sure what you mean [18:43:56] MatmaRex, thank you [18:43:58] Turning wikis yellow? [18:44:01] is there a way to have a themes for the wiki install? is there a repository? [18:44:02] Isarra: Yup. [18:44:05] There should be. [18:44:15] I've been googling for the last 10 minutes trying to find that [18:44:22] * Ulfr thinks there should be one against removing the left bar as well. But c'est la vie [18:44:34] x4i: It's called a skin, not a theme [18:44:41] !skins | x4i [18:44:41] x4i: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Skins>. Skin usage: . Gallery of CSS styles: . Writing your own: http://blog.redwerks.org/2012/02/08/mediawiki-skinning-tutorial/ and the historical archive [18:45:01] x4i: i don't think there is a repository, there aren't many skins for MW apart from the default ones [18:45:11] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "Looks good" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master); V: 0 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34678 [18:45:15] 03(mod) nurhusien.hasen27@gmail.com - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42732 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [18:45:48] x4i: the only reasonably complete and up-to-date one i know of is https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Skin:Erudite [18:47:50] thank you! one more question: i want to display the category tree on the front page. is there a "best practices" roundup for displaying taxonomies? [18:48:22] Okay, seriously, what's with the 1x1px background images? [18:48:24] perhaps some cool formats, like "heat map" and such? [18:49:17] MatmaRex: My problem was PEBKAC [18:49:51] Isarra: if i were you, i'd go git blame'ing [18:50:05] (or `git gui blame`-ing, as it's a slightly less awful interface) [18:50:14] Whaah. [18:50:24] 03(mod) expand buttons of mobile version stopped working on nokia S60 browser, browser just exit/disappears once clicked - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41407 +comment (10Jon) [18:50:29] `git gui blame ` [18:50:37] New review: Kghbln; "See inline comment" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37022 [18:50:51] shows the authors of the last revision that touched certain lines [18:50:57] I have no idea what that means and neither, apparently, does my computer. [18:51:40] But man, I wouldn't even know where to look for the files, let alone... anything in them. [18:52:05] well, mediawiki/extensions/Vector? [18:52:16] or mediawiki/core/skins/Vector [18:53:08] there are four 1x1 PNGs in skins/vector/images. wat. [18:53:28] * Isarra headdesks. [18:54:06] haha, they're there since the beginning of time [18:54:09] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Deleting across inline alien errors - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42707 +comment (10Roan Kattouw) [18:54:14] Author: Trevor Parscal 2009-05-28 00:05:58 [18:54:20] New skin based on MonoBook with improvements inspired by research conducted by the Wikipedia Usability Initiative [18:54:33] commit b74f7169675c3971db0f5478a03e648f4d5c157e [18:54:36] There... was research involved? [18:54:41] And they came up with that? O_o [18:55:15] * yuvipanda pokes SuchetaG  [18:55:19] This git blame thing shows authors. Should it show more? [18:55:31] It should show you the commit hash and datetime as well [18:55:45] b74f7169 (Trevor Parscal 2009-05-27 22:05:58 +0000 1) <89>PNG [18:56:08] Isarra: You may also wish not to strike too insulting a tone towards people that are in this very channel [18:56:09] Is the firs thing the hash? [18:56:09] Isarra: if you're using the GUI version, you can right-click on lines to see more info [18:56:19] Yes, b74... is the beginning of the hash [18:56:23] What gui version? [18:56:24] Isarra: i particularly recommend checking out the "History context" option [18:56:26] It's not the full hash but it's enough of it to be unique [18:56:31] Isarra: `git gui blame` [18:56:43] 'gui' isn't a recognised command. [18:56:53] RoanKattouw: Apologies if I have offended. [18:57:12] hm, it was installed for me on windows by default. if you're on linux, you probably have to install it separately [18:57:52] Argh... installations are such a pain in debian. [18:58:40] 03(mod) Section headings should have some clickable anchor for passing links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/16691 +design +easy; +comment (10MZMcBride) [18:59:09] 03(mod) Section headings should have some clickable anchor for passing links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/16691 (10MZMcBride) [18:59:26] (potentially OT) MatmaRex if you use Vim, I suggest Fugitive + Extradite plugins. I've never had to git blame on the commandline after that [18:59:46] AGH! [18:59:51] MatmaRex: What is this horror?! [19:00:19] Isarra: which!? [19:00:38] The.. .guy. Strange borders, giant unantialiased fonts... [19:00:44] It's like... like windows, but worse. [19:00:47] yuvipanda: i'm on windows, i find it easier on my mind [19:00:49] gui* [19:01:05] yuvipanda: i only use vim when git launches it for me ;) [19:01:27] Isarra: git people were never known for their design skills :P [19:01:28] MatmaRex: ah, of course. You're not fugitive's target audience then :) [19:01:42] yuvipanda: ;) [19:01:49] Isarra: and that's the horror that is known as gitk. It never has proper anti-aliased fonts, in any OS [19:01:52] * Isarra goes into hiding. [19:02:16] yuvipanda: okay, that's bull, it has antialiased fonts for me on windows. [19:02:18] (XP) [19:02:26] XP antialiases fonts? [19:02:34] yes, if you turn it on in system settings [19:02:37] MatmaRex: are you sure you're getting gitk? [19:02:39] Man, that one sounds sexier every day. [19:02:55] yuvipanda: quite. the thing that pops up with i type `gitk` in the console. [19:02:56] I couldn't get 7 to antialias fonts properly for the life of me. [19:03:15] looks like I didn't give the TK folks enough credit! [19:03:34] yuvipanda: (but my system settings are non-standard, as said above) [19:03:49] (i simply enabled antialiasing for everything one day, and decided i love it) [19:03:50] MatmaRex: you just turned on cleartype, right? [19:03:56] probably [19:04:02] don't remember the exact name now [19:04:07] yeah, that's the first thing i do on any computer with xp i touch [19:04:21] Can you do that with 7? [19:04:46] Whatever it uses is terrible, and I'm saying that as a non-mac user. [19:05:05] yuvipanda: yes, i just checked, that's what i did. [19:05:16] MatmaRex: Your video card must hate you [19:05:29] Ulfr: it isn't really that taxing [19:05:33] i had it on on my ancient p4 [19:05:34] my OS's not supposed to be sexy, it's supposed to be useful and reasonably fast [19:05:47] (i stick to the old Win98 look ;) ) [19:05:58] if I could I'd just use command line [19:06:04] But then starcraft would be really hard [19:06:48] Zork! [19:07:46] <^demon|away> MatmaRex: Those things aren't mutually exclusive ;-) [19:07:56] I dunno; someone has probably done an ascii display for starcraft by now. [19:08:29] I'm not sure I could get behind a game that turns my beloved zerglings into a bunch of little zs running around [19:09:02] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf5) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37019 [19:09:03] what's wrong with lovely z's running around? [19:09:06] <^demon|away> zzzzzzzzzzzz [19:09:10] <^demon|away> ^ zerg rush [19:09:12] Aaah! [19:10:10] ^demon|away: unfortunately even if i prettied up my system, the programs i use would still look like poop, with their 20 screens of config options each ;) [19:10:31] i love myself some config options [19:11:15] Saruman: It's not the same! [19:11:17] MatmaRex: Come now, configuration screens don't need to be ugly! VLC has a nice configuration interface, and a lot of screens for it. [19:11:27] Ulfr: if you say so... [19:11:47] 03(NEW) Integrate Firefogg in the Commons Upload Wizard - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42733 normal; mwEmbed: Firefogg; () [19:11:48] marktraceur: Yup, but it requires a programmer and a designer to be in the same room for hours without trying to murder each other [19:11:52] marktraceur: i'm afraid that no one on, say, the Miranda IM team is a designer ;) [19:12:03] Saruman: In Starcraft 2 the zerglings actually look like a horde of bugs :P [19:12:04] marktraceur: same with foobar, IrfanView, Notepad++ [19:12:11] 03(mod) Integrate Firefogg in the Commons Upload Wizard - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42733 (10floresg2) [19:12:11] marktraceur: and Opera isn't too lovely in that matter either [19:12:18] * Saruman doesn't like bugs [19:12:19] <^demon|away> lol opera. [19:12:23] lol ^demon [19:12:53] MatmaRex: I'm inclined to agree with ^demon|away on that one. [19:13:15] MatmaRex: But as for Notepad++ and Miranda IM, any designer will do! [19:13:21] opera is awesome and i'm not listening to any of you. :P [19:14:19] <^demon|away> Everyone knows that real gentlemen use w3m. [19:14:24] * saper does [19:14:35] MatmaRex: Surely you know somebody (who knows somebody)* who can design a nice interface for peanuts. We're in an economic downturn, exploit it to get cheap designer work! [19:14:40] * marktraceur is not a friend to the working man [19:14:59] I think if nostalgia skin will be removed I will be forced to switch to w3m permanently [19:15:07] marktraceur: :ooo [19:15:16] marktraceur: i think that people who need well-designed interface to use software are not the target audience of any of these tools i mentioned :D [19:15:42] MatmaRex: "need" is such a strong term. Widen the target audience by making cooler interfaces :) [19:15:42] marktraceur: ain't there a minimum wage for CSS 3.0 designers these days? [19:15:51] <^demon|away> I'm still not sure who the target audience of Opera is. [19:16:10] ^demon|away: well, then it's probably not you :P [19:16:21] as I grew old, I stopped thinking in terms of "target audience" at all [19:16:37] opera uses less RAM than other browsers (which most people don't care bout) and has more features (which most people don't need) [19:16:38] <^demon|away> I miss my ie4mac browser :( [19:16:43] <^demon|away> Was great fun to spin that up to confirm bugs. [19:16:44] MatmaRex: no, it's him. He only needs to finally figure it out. [19:16:49] saper: AFAIK the only requirement is that we give them regular psych evals [19:17:17] MatmaRex: And fewer freedoms (which most people don't notice) [19:20:33] marktraceur: your urge to have 'freedoms' is restricting you :) [19:21:10] i'm fine with using a free, closed-source software. when i'm in a paranoid mood, i can sniff my network traffic. [19:21:24] 03(mod) next button does nothing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42640 (10j.nailor) [19:21:56] 03(mod) Integrate Firefogg in the Commons Upload Wizard - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42733 +comment (10Michael Dale) [19:22:15] Nikerabbit: did you manage to get commit -p working? [19:22:46] 03(mod) expand buttons of mobile version stopped working on nokia S60 browser, browser just exit/disappears once clicked - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41407 +comment (10lostrego) [19:22:47] * yuvipanda notes that the first time he had internet for himself, firefox 1.0 was just about to be released [19:23:03] hey all, can't figure out why skins are not working after upgrade from debian 1.15 to latest [19:23:17] MatmaRex: It's not a matter of "oh no, what if it's spying on me" [19:23:24] log says Failed opening '/var/lib/mediawiki/resources/Resources.php' for inclusion [19:23:37] MatmaRex: I really don't care that much about my privacy, though most free software people do. [19:24:20] MatmaRex: My interest is mostly in whether I can do things with the software. And with Opera, the answer is "we pay people to think for you, so calm your pretty little head" [19:28:43] marktraceur: Opera is *the* most configurable browser out there, with the obvious caveat you can't edit the source and recompile it [19:28:44] <^demon|away> yuvipanda: I used firefox when it was still in 0.x and called firebird ;-) [19:28:44] ^demon|away: too old :P [19:28:44] i also used to be a micrsoft fanboy then [19:28:44] i remember distinctly writing a blog post, about why people should use the 'msn toolbar' which faked tabs on ie6 [19:28:44] than firefox [19:28:44] i'm sure i can dig that up now too :P [19:28:44] MatmaRex: Then it's not the most configurable, because any truly free browser is infinitely configurable [19:28:44] in my defense, i was, like, 13 or 14 :) [19:28:44] 03(mod) expand buttons of mobile version stopped working on nokia S60 browser, browser just exit/disappears once clicked - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41407 +comment (10Jon) [19:28:45] marktraceur: i can't rewrite firefox's source to do what i want it to do (can you?). i can configure opera to do it just fine. [19:28:45] 03(mod) extension/Diff: Diff class needs more unit tests - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39010 (10Jeroen De Dauw) [19:28:45] also, it comes with RSS reader, mail client, IRC client, and BitTorrent client built it. [19:28:45] also mouse gestures (built-in). [19:28:45] 03(mod) Support switching content language variants - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38101 (10Juliusz Gonera) [19:28:46] Change merged: Bsitu; [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35593 [19:28:46] MatmaRex: The barrier to entry is slightly higher, obviously, for more complicated operations. But since you can do *anything*, with the proper resources, and even with infinite resources you couldn't do anything extra with Opera, a free browser is infinitely more configurable. [19:28:46] theoretically, yes. practically, no, unless you're a C++ coder. [19:28:46] (or whatever firefox guys use) [19:28:51] MatmaRex: Implying that one can't learn C++? [19:28:55] That's the beauty of open-source! You don't have to fix a damned thing! [19:28:56] But we don't have infinite resources - that's the thing, and that's why everyone's using different browsers according to which is most like what they want using the resources they do have available. [19:29:08] "You want it? Go ahead and change it." [19:29:13] implying that one shouldn't have to learn C++ to configure a web browser [19:29:16] MatmaRex: Or hey, do you have some money to throw at it? Hire a C++ coder. [19:29:22] New review: Mattflaschen; "Looks good." [mediawiki/extensions/GuidedTour] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35399 [19:29:26] haha, good one :D [19:29:35] MatmaRex: What? [19:29:45] Also hoo boy [19:29:49] This is gonna be fun. [19:29:50] i currently have negative amounts of money available for throwing away. :D [19:29:57] But we have choices beyond being stuck with only one browser anywhere, so it's not necessary. [19:30:03] So... yeah. [19:30:09] *nod* I can understand that, MatmaRex [19:30:10] Can I have your energy? [19:30:14] Going to throw SemanticBundle onto a wiki some time this week. [19:30:17] <^demon|away> I think we're comparing apples to oranges. Lot's of config options != ability to tweak the browser to your liking. [19:30:19] Isarra: what are you doing, ruining a good browser flamewar with your reasonableness! [19:30:27] I'm not reasonable. [19:30:32] Don't ever suggest that. [19:30:34] <^demon|away> Lots of config options means you have the ability to tweak the browser as far as the developer has decided. [19:30:48] First have to push aside a conflicting extension, and then I get to test out their new git-based deploy method. [19:30:58] 03(mod) Expand "Chinese" language choice (also provide Taiwanese and Hongkong Chinese) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41875 +comment (10Juliusz Gonera) [19:30:58] 03(mod) Support switching content language variants - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38101 +comment (10Juliusz Gonera) [19:31:06] wicked_shell: Couple of things: Are you running mediawiki from a tarball that you got on mediawiki.org? [19:31:58] MatmaRex: You'll note that I wasn't promoting a browser, but a principle. So hardly a browser-specific flamewar. [19:33:09] hi there K__ - is that 'git-deploy' or something else? [19:33:14] * sumanah is curious but has to run to lunch [19:33:18] Nah [19:33:19] aw [19:33:39] Was just gonna say it's just a silly little shell script for updating extensions. [19:33:50] marktraceur: Your principle is not necessarily practical, however. It's good to have as an option, but that's precisely why we have options. [19:33:51] Which is basically a series of git clones [19:34:00] Robust? Hardly! [19:34:01] And it's also why we make web developers' lives miserable. [19:34:07] Poor things. [19:34:19] More robust than what was there beforehand? Definitely. [19:34:23] (which was nothing) [19:34:28] K__: ? [19:34:37] rambling [19:35:35] Isarra: The option that stops you from having infinite options seems like a poor choice to me. [19:36:36] marktraceur: The option that requires resources you do not have seems like a poor choice to me. [19:37:32] We never have infinite options. We live in a world with constraints, where decisions can be made to optimise our expected outcome, but that is all we can really try for. [19:37:50] Isarra: In the short term, but stopping yourself from using your resources in the future negates any long-term benefits [19:37:57] 03(mod) magic word for new articles - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42636 +comment (10Chad H.) [19:38:16] How does using a browser that is not open source do that? [19:38:16] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34843 anyone? [19:38:24] If it is needed, we can use a different browser then. [19:38:58] New patchset: Reedy; "Add DataValues to make-wmf-branch" [mediawiki/tools/release] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37047 [19:38:59] I use mediawiki because I need options. I also use opera because I need a browser that does what I need it to with minimal work. [19:39:01] 03(NEW) Non-admins can see contents of deleted pages when viewing abusefilter details - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42734 major; MediaWiki extensions: AbuseFilter; () [19:39:18] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/tools/release] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37047 [19:39:25] If I needed a wiki to do other things that mediawiki does not support, nevermind options, I would not use mediawiki for that. [19:39:29] Isarra: If people stopped using free software simply because it wasn't as good as the non-free options, soon free software wouldn't exist. "And by the time they came for me, there was nobody left to speak up." [19:39:52] People already do, and yet free software has been growing and improving, not dying out. [19:39:59] * marktraceur is coming close to Godwin on that one [19:40:12] 03(mod) Sysops should be able to use Special:AbuseFilter/examine against deleted edits - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/18091 (10Marius Hoch) [19:40:15] As time goes on, it supports more, not less, and there is often less reason to go with other things. [19:40:30] 03(mod) Non-admins can see contents of deleted pages when viewing abusefilter details - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42734 +comment (10Legoktm) [19:41:05] Ten years ago, if you wanted to work with vectors, it was illustrator or vim. Now you can also use inkscape, and it has issues, but it works. [19:41:27] Isarra: And with your advice, everyone should switch away from it because there are issues. [19:41:41] Isarra: Why bother developing it if there are better options, right? [19:41:49] With my advice, people should use what works for them in the term and scope that they are working with. [19:42:06] If you have a wide scope and a long term, working with and developing the thing with more options is viable. [19:42:14] If you just need something now, you are not going to do that. [19:42:24] And that is what people do. [19:43:56] marktraceur: yes [19:44:05] also php and mysql meet requirenments [19:44:14] wicked_shell: Can you make sure that the file it mentions actually exists? [19:44:50] it didn't i created a symlink in lib to the actual path and error disappeared in logs.. but still no skins (also no css it looks like( [19:45:08] every skin is just the same [19:46:21] images work [19:46:39] New review: Mwalker; "So... docstring comments would be nice :) There are some potential SQL injections and places where t..." [wikimedia/fundraising/tools] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36951 [19:46:52] spend half the day on it already -,- out of ideas [19:46:58] wicked_shell: And you're setting up the skin how, by adding the files in the skins directory and editing LocalSettings.php? [19:47:17] 03(mod) Non-admins can see contents of deleted pages when viewing abusefilter details - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42734 (10Krenair) [19:47:19] i tried default skin in LocalSettings, also through special pages [19:47:30] i try to use the default - vector [19:47:34] nothing fancy/selfmade [19:47:59] 03(mod) expand buttons of mobile version stopped working on nokia S60 browser, browser just exit/disappears once clicked - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41407 +comment (10lostrego) [19:48:04] Guys, does anyone know why the vector skin uses 1px repeated backgrounds to set borders instead of just using the border property? [19:49:20] Was bugzilla upgraded? It's sending me scary html emails [19:49:26] Yeah. [19:49:26] multichill: IIRC yes [19:49:35] yep, css is definitely broken [19:49:36] Isarra: ask trevor when he's around? [19:49:57] do i need some extra files for skins and such apart from the official tar.gz? [19:50:37] New patchset: Lwelling; "Initial version of GuidedTour as a MediaWiki extension" [mediawiki/extensions/GuidedTour] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35399 [19:50:45] Ah, site preference was changed to html.... [19:50:58] multichill: yes, you can turn them off in prefs [19:51:16] Isarra: IIRC it was something with very old browsers (like IE6 or something), will ask Trevor [19:51:34] Sending hackers html email is like sending porn to your grandma [19:51:36] <^demon|away> multichill, MatmaRex: Bugzilla changed the default to HTML :\ [19:51:47] BREAKING CHANGE: Style rules for wikitable are now more specific and prevent inheritance to nested tables which caused various issues (bug 30485 and bug 33434). If your wiki has overriden rules for ".wikitable", please revise them and adjust where neccecary. For comparison, use the "table.wikitable" section in skins/common/shared.css as base. | this maybe from 1.19 [19:52:04] although i didn't edit anything [19:52:11] is there a separate bug channel? [19:53:04] New patchset: Lwelling; "Initial version of GuidedTour as a MediaWiki extension" [mediawiki/extensions/GuidedTour] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35399 [19:53:07] ^demon|away: IMO these are slightly better than the old ones, actually [19:53:17] at least it's readable in a non-monospace font [19:53:22] can someone pastebin me his /skins/common/shared.css for comparison? [19:53:49] Isarra: Browser compatibility; Vector is targetted to be IE 5.5 compatible. [19:54:00] Change abandoned: Aaron Schulz; "Compiling into a single change." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36816 [19:54:13] wicked_shell: you can look at it from gerrit itself? let me find a link [19:54:20] <^demon|away> MatmaRex: I hate change :( [19:54:22] New patchset: Raimond Spekking; "[Renameuser] Add new message key to ignore" [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37051 [19:54:30] James_F: IE5 doesn't support borders? o__o [19:54:41] Isarra: Welcome to our world of pain. [19:54:41] Change merged: Raimond Spekking; [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37051 [19:54:42] I asked for developer access in the wiki page [19:55:08] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "Added UIDGenerator class for getting statistically unique IDs." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37052 [19:55:17] Isarra: "essentially, a 1x1 image, set to top left, repeat-y, is like an inner left border that doesn't affect the sizing" to quote from Trevor. [19:55:23] Isarra: http://pastebin.com/uh5b6mXU [19:55:30] Or that. :-) [19:55:37] Dude... that's... brilliant. [19:55:43] New review: Daniel Friesen; "It works before whole rules or individual properties. It is typically done on properties." [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36748 [19:55:52] Horrible, but... [19:56:04] * ^demon|away whacks RoanKattouw for having cabal chats [19:56:06] I think we could use this to make things IE8-compatible too! [19:56:19] ^demon|away: #mediawiki-parsoid is an open channel [19:56:22] Ahm [19:56:23] wait, do we still support IE5? [19:56:25] #mediawiki-visualeditor , too [19:56:33] MatmaRex: For reading, we support IE .55 [19:56:34] *5.5 [19:56:40] Change merged: IAlex; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37004 [19:56:41] according to https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Compatibility we don't [19:56:41] I think 5.0 barfs because it interprets > to mean , in CSS [19:56:44] ^demon|away: Not cabal chats, just focussed. [19:56:44] So why the caballiness instead of just saying that here? [19:56:50] support != being all pretty [19:56:54] <^demon|away> *sigh* [19:56:57] or ==? [19:56:58] MatmaRex: We did when we made Vector. [19:57:05] <^demon|away> I'm thinking of consolidating my channels I join. [19:57:12] <^demon|away> Only join one. [19:57:17] <^demon|away> And if people want me, they can find me :) [19:57:20] <^demon|away> Best plan ever. [19:57:32] James_F: but if we don't anymore, we could clear up some cruft? [19:57:34] <^demon|away> Way better than 40 channels to keep an eye on [19:57:36] Isarra: Most of our devs don't hang out in #mediawiki so much as #wikimedia-dev [19:57:54] MatmaRex: You'd have to ask Platform who are in charge of what we support for things like skins. [19:57:55] Ah yes, Trevor actually is present in that one [19:58:05] Change merged: IAlex; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36997 [19:58:06] Pfft. [19:58:19] Isarra: Yeah, the 10-million-channel thing is annoying [19:58:22] But that wasn't in -dev either. [19:58:37] 03(mod) Cross domain tokens - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42709 +comment (10Arthur Richards) [19:58:39] James_F: okay, i don't care *that* much. :) [19:58:40] <^demon|away> I'm boycotting -dev now. [19:58:45] I was relaying it in #mediawiki-visualeditor because I was already talking to him there [19:58:46] Krenair: the bug i reported wasn't a dupe right? [19:58:50] * ^demon|away parted, and removed it from his auto-join list [19:58:52] But yeah the 10-million-channel thing sucks [19:58:53] Ah. [19:58:55] Whee. [19:58:57] ^demon|away: :-( [19:59:04] <^demon|away> I always hated -dev. [19:59:08] legoktm, AF deleted data leak? [19:59:13] yeah [19:59:13] * James_F is "only" on 38 auto-join channels [19:59:16] I just join all of them, but then other people don't, and I end up relaying things or poking people to join other channels [19:59:19] Not as far as I know, but it could be [19:59:28] Change merged: MaxSem; [mediawiki/extensions/GeoData] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36894 [19:59:55] ok :P [20:00:22] * Isarra hugs RoanKattouw. [20:00:35] Your poking people is appreciated. [20:00:43] 03(mod) VisualEditor: When editing a non-current revision of a page, alter the "Save page" button behaviour - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41865 +comment (10James Forrester) [20:00:53] Isarra: We aim to please. :-) [20:01:21] 03(mod) magic word for new articles - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42636 (10Andre Klapper) [20:01:22] ^demon|away: "Don't flood, use http://dpaste.org/" and yet we still allow wikibugs in here instead of keeping it in a box in -feed? ;-) [20:01:31] I wish I got a diff when the channel topic changed [20:01:56] legoktm, I CC'd Chris Steipp [20:02:02] Change merged: Catrope; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36833 [20:02:02] New review: Mattflaschen; "Looks great." [mediawiki/extensions/GuidedTour] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35399 [20:02:12] Krenair: not too sure who that is, but ok [20:02:34] 03(mod) Requesting a new hook to allow manipulation of image data (e.g. src attribute) before the image is rendered - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41835 +comment (10Victor Danilchenko) [20:02:41] <^demon|away> James_F: it's not really wikibugs' fault--he was much more silent in years past. It's the volume of bugmail that's the problem. [20:03:00] ^demon|away: Oh, sure. But more bug activity is a good thing. :-) [20:03:31] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Maps] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36711 [20:03:47] <^demon|away> James_F: wikibugs should be totally puppetized if someone wants to change the config ;-) [20:04:06] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "Note that this will not be merged into my dev branch, as there this class has had a thorough cleanup" [mediawiki/extensions/Maps] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36711 [20:04:22] Change abandoned: preilly; "(no reason)" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33560 [20:04:24] legoktm, http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2012-April/060078.html [20:04:52] ^demon|away: Best the enemy of the good? [20:05:21] Krenair: ah ok. seems like the right person! [20:05:22] yuvipanda: no there is no newer in old ubuntu LTS [20:05:31] <^demon|away> James_F: I'm not sure what you mean by that. I'm saying "as long as it's puppetized, {{sofixit}}" [20:06:20] Nikerabbit: weird, that feature doesn't sound like something that new [20:06:23] (git add -p) [20:07:15] ^demon|away: Oh, I read your comment as "If you want to start fixing wikibugs, first you need to totally puppetise it". :-) [20:07:37] 03(mod) Non-admins can see contents of deleted pages when viewing abusefilter details - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42734 (10Marius Hoch) [20:07:51] <^demon|away> James_F: No, it's "it should be totally puppetized" [20:07:54] <^demon|away> But now I'm curious. [20:07:56] * ^demon|away checks [20:08:15] New review: Diederik; "Can't we configure this on a per-repo basis?" [mediawiki/core] (refs/meta/config); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36815 [20:08:57] ^demon|away: Understood now. :-) [20:09:15] yuvipanda: git commit -p you said [20:09:20] git add -p of course is [20:09:29] Nikerabbit: wait, you have add -p but no commit -p? [20:09:53] <^demon|away> James_F: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?p=operations/puppet.git;a=blob;f=manifests/misc/wikibugs.pp [20:10:01] yuvipanda: yeah [20:10:43] ^demon|away: Awesome. :-) [20:10:49] New review: Catrope; "@Diederik : Yes, this change *is* a per-repo customization. It only applies to mediawiki/core , per ..." [mediawiki/core] (refs/meta/config); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36815 [20:10:54] Nikerabbit: weird. [20:11:10] either way, add -p + commit does same as commit -p and is more flexible anyway :) [20:11:20] New review: Brion VIBBER; "minor tweak in the inline comments; otherwise looks ok but i haven't had a chance to test it yet" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25838 [20:11:57] New review: Demon; "Actually, these inherit, so if we had mediawiki/core/foo, it would apply. But yes, we're only applyi..." [mediawiki/core] (refs/meta/config); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36815 [20:13:00] New patchset: Catrope; "(bug 42707) JS error when deleting across an inline alien" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37056 [20:13:03] New patchset: Hoo man; "Links created by Linker::makeExternalLink didn't include rel=nofollow" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37057 [20:13:37] ^demon|away: Is gerrit-wm done the same way? [20:14:23] <^demon|away> Via ircecho config, yes. Different file though: manifests/gerrit.pp [20:14:26] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Deleting across inline alien errors - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42707 +comment (10James Forrester) [20:14:30] * James_F nods. [20:14:46] <^demon|away> look for gerrit::ircbot [20:14:50] Change abandoned: Hoo man; "https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37057 probably does this by far better." [mediawiki/extensions/CreditsSource] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33149 [20:15:03] ^demon|away: Thanks, you rock. [20:15:06] <^demon|away> yw. [20:16:02] SOLVED [20:16:12] reinstall > ALL =( [20:16:44] 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Setup wikibugs and gerrit-wm for #mediawiki-visualeditor - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42735 enhancement; VisualEditor: General; () [20:16:54] Localsettings.php from 1.15 seems not compatible with 1.19+, although just a guess [20:17:20] New review: Tpt; "Minor changes reviewed by Phe." [mediawiki/extensions/ProofreadPage] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36401 [20:17:21] Change merged: Tpt; [mediawiki/extensions/ProofreadPage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36401 [20:20:29] New patchset: Bsitu; "Making sure the user's language is used regardless of context." [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36322 [20:20:40] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Bump min MediaWiki and PHP versions" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37059 [20:21:48] Change merged: Alex Monk; [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36322 [20:32:29] 03(mod) UW master not compatible with MW 1.20.x - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42729 +comment (10Lupo) [20:32:36] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Deleting across inline alien errors - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42707 (10James Forrester) [20:33:57] guillom: Bah. "Multilingual" (unhyphenated) is actively wrong. :-( [20:34:53] James_F: bilingual? [20:34:53] James_F: it's how I've always seen it used. [20:35:08] RoanKattouw: The lack of hyphenation is the issue. [20:35:20] I've always seen multi as an unhyphenated prefix [20:35:24] multivariate, for instance [20:35:32] guillom: It's the entire detachment of the 'ti' from the 'lin'. [20:36:03] James_F: Composite words for the win! Embrace your Germanic roots! ;) [20:36:15] New patchset: Zfilipin; "Clicking "edit" link happens on Unix page, not Random page" [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37064 [20:36:23] I know this is an American English fetish, but it's hugely jarring. Most hyphenation issues are debatable, but this is not one of them for international English. [20:36:43] And it's particularly odd to go from "rollout" to "roll-out" in the same edit. :-) [20:37:07] I am thinking of moving my semantic wiki to the cloud with Amazon EC2, do you guys think this is this a good idea? [20:37:35] James_F: For once, I'm going to play the "the monthly report is mine and I'm just harmonizing to the usual spelling in the Wikimedia universe and that's the end of it" card. [20:37:58] guillom: I entirely understand. It's a whine not a complaint. :-) [20:38:25] guillom: Though it does mean that half the VE comms products are written in global English and the other half in American English, but that's an issue we struggle with more generally. [20:38:26] 03(mod) "Powered by Semantic MediaWiki" button needs a redesign - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42128 (10d3mon) [20:38:29] James_F: You're welcome to start a style guide and I'll adhere to it as long as it's US-English friendly ;) [20:39:17] Yeah, I generally harmonize the monthly report to US English because most of the content is already EN-US. [20:39:18] guillom: I'm not sure why our English has to be written to the benefit of the richest 300m speakers rather than the other 1.4bn who roughly speak an approximation of British English. ;-) But this isn't the venue. [20:39:56] guillom: The lingual imperialism of 'en' being 'en-us' in MediaWiki is something I really should bring up with the Language folks, however. [20:40:25] <^demon|away> Because nobody ever works on the en-gb i18n file ;-) [20:40:31] heh [20:40:41] ^demon|away: I do! VE is entirely -gb translated. :-) [20:40:51] Or, was. [20:41:14] <^demon|away> Oh well I thought we were talking about core. [20:41:26] ^demon|away: I don't have the time to do core. Yet. [20:41:40] ^demon|away: And there's always the issue of whether my suggestions would be better ported upstream. [20:42:46] 03(NEW) deploy to test2 broke UploadWizard in IE7 at least - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42736 major; MediaWiki extensions: UploadWizard; () [20:45:57] uga [20:48:41] New patchset: Robmoen; "Add cancel button to VisualEditor MediaWiki integration." [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36934 [20:49:06] New patchset: Lupo; "(bug 42729) Don't load MW-1.21-only class on earlier MW" [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37067 [20:51:14] 03(mod) UW master not compatible with MW 1.20.x - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42729 +patch-in-gerrit; +comment (10Lupo) [20:52:00] New review: Kghbln; "It is ok with me to also dropp MW 1.18. support with this one. Besides, will SMW 1.9.x be a LTS, too?" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37059 [20:52:19] New patchset: Parent5446; "Added initial code for Extension:SecureSessions." [mediawiki/extensions/SecureSessions] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37068 [20:53:41] Change merged: Parent5446; [mediawiki/extensions/SecureSessions] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37068 [20:54:59] 03(mod) Requesting a new hook to allow manipulation of image data (e.g. src attribute) before the image is rendered - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41835 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [20:55:03] Change merged: Alex Monk; [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37079 [20:55:59] 03(NEW) Changing Urdu Wikipedia user rights configuration - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42737 normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; () [20:56:20] Does the page name "Project:x" automatically turn into "Wikiname:x"? [20:56:36] It seems to be doing that on my wiki, but I want to make sure I'm not misinterpreting. [20:56:36] If the wiki is set up to have a custom project namespace, yes. [20:56:43] Oh, OK. Thanks. [20:57:11] 03(mod) deploy to test2 broke UploadWizard in IE7 at least - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42736 +comment (10Chris McMahon) [20:57:51] :q [20:57:54] gah [20:58:08] New review: Mwjames; "Please do not have a discussion about SMW 1.9/LTS here on gerrit. This is only to verify if the chan..." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master); V: 1 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37059 [20:58:12] New review: Parent5446; "PHP causes me so much strife." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37052 [20:58:31] <^demon|away> Olathe: Project: will always work on any wiki, with or without a custom project namespace setup. [20:58:48] <^demon|away> It's the canonical name, like File or Category. [20:59:03] New review: Siebrand; "Gotta love self merges... Here's some feedback." [mediawiki/extensions/SecureSessions] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37068 [20:59:16] New patchset: Mattflaschen; "Add clear: both to More articles" [mediawiki/extensions/Onboarding] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37113 [21:00:16] New patchset: Robmoen; "Add cancel button to VisualEditor MediaWiki integration." [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36934 [21:01:52] Change merged: Raimond Spekking; [mediawiki/extensions/Validator] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37108 [21:06:03] Change merged: Raimond Spekking; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37065 [21:09:27] New review: Kghbln; "Fair enough. Still there is an comment regarding a "problem" as gerrit puts it. :)" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37059 [21:14:49] I would like to submit a patch for the "Special:Preferences" page. Where do I find the code? Grep is failing in core.git although it may be user error. [21:15:26] philipo: includes/specials/SpecialPreferences.php [21:16:09] New patchset: Parent5446; "Changed messages and message keys for standardization." [mediawiki/extensions/SecureSessions] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37115 [21:17:55] 03(mod) Install asciidoc on gallium - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42696 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [21:18:25] RoanKattouw: Thanks. I do not see how to make the suggested change. I think the "Watchlist" tab should mention that "E-mail me when a page on my watchlist is changed" is an option under "User Profile" [21:18:44] Oh [21:18:54] I expected it to be there but it'd be a better change [21:18:55] Messages are all in the translation files, even the English ones [21:18:58] languages/messages/MessagesEn.php [21:19:10] s/better/bigger [21:19:34] Oh, I see what you mean [21:20:20] The preferences themselves are defined in includes/Preferences.php [21:20:31] The watchlist tab is in the watchlistPreferences function (line ~878) [21:20:44] You would need to add a dummy "preference" that's really just text [21:20:49] Let me find an example of taht [21:21:17] Ah yes, look for 'type' => 'info' [21:21:18] <^demon|away> I think it's type => info [21:21:20] <^demon|away> Yep [21:21:35] The 'editcount' "preference" (line 208) is a good example [21:22:16] are there any usefull acl extensions out there? i find only dated stuff [21:23:52] 03(mod) deploy to test2 broke UploadWizard in IE7 at least - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42736 +comment (10Chris McMahon) [21:24:29] 03(mod) deploy to test2 broke UploadWizard in IE7 at least - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42736 (10Chris McMahon) [21:25:23] New patchset: Hoo man; "Links created by Linker::makeExternalLink didn't include rel=nofollow" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37057 [21:25:38] So I'd add something like that 'type' => 'info' entry within the watchlistPreferences method [21:26:15] ah, you said that earlier [21:26:50] New review: Hoo man; "Fixed 5 magic (external) link parser tests" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37057 [21:27:20] great, thanks guys. now where do we submit patches? [21:27:40] get a gerrit account [21:27:51] philipo: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developer_access [21:28:09] 03(mod) Link to WikiTravel in the attribution footer on Wikivoyage lacks nofollow; also make link not clickable? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41983 +comment (10Marius Hoch) [21:28:38] New patchset: Hoo man; "Links created by Linker::makeExternalLink didn't include rel=nofollow" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37057 [21:29:05] New review: Hoo man; "Linked wrong bug" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37057 [21:29:32] Vulpix: let's say i simply want to submit a patch, and not commit myself, file a feature request / bug report? [21:30:44] philipo: see https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42606 :) [21:31:20] New review: Cmcmahon; "forgot to remove a reference to RandomPage" [qa/browsertests] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37064 [21:31:20] Change merged: Cmcmahon; [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37064 [21:32:55] Vulpix: ah, interesting. great timing :) [21:33:33] Change merged: Ori.livneh; [mediawiki/extensions/Onboarding] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37113 [21:34:01] maybe i'll test the resolve of the mediawiki community by attaching a patch to bugzilla [21:35:07] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions/CategoryTree] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36750 [21:36:17] New review: Ori.livneh; "LGTM, but can you get rid of the extra whitespace on line 333 of SqlWriter.java and add a comment ex..." [mediawiki/tools/mwdumper] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33334 [21:38:13] 03(NEW) missing css classes in skins - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42738 normal; MediaWiki extensions: ArticleFeedbackv5; () [21:44:16] 03(NEW) yes-no fields jump in next row - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42739 trivial; MediaWiki extensions: ArticleFeedbackv5; () [21:45:08] 03(mod) "Powered by Semantic MediaWiki" button needs a redesign - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42128 +comment (10MWJames) [21:47:11] New review: Adamw; "Great feedback, thanks for looking this over! I'll do some cleanup, and DB escaping, then resubmit ..." [wikimedia/fundraising/tools] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36951 [21:47:57] 03(mod) yes-no fields jump in next row - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42739 +comment (10Matthias Mullie) [21:47:58] 03(mod) IE9 only: Yes/No buttons jump down page when mouse over - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42551 +comment (10Matthias Mullie) [21:50:40] 03(mod) No interwiki prefix for Wikidata - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41730 (10Rob Lanphier) [21:51:52] New patchset: Christian; "Restore cursor after undo/redo" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37119 [21:53:34] 03(NEW) PHP Fatal error: Call to a member function getRedirectChain() on a non-object - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42740 normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; () [21:56:22] 03(mod) deploy to test2 broke UploadWizard in IE7 at least - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42736 major->minor; +comment (10Chris McMahon) [21:59:02] New patchset: awjrichards; "Update MobileFrontend to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf5) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37121 [21:59:23] Change merged: awjrichards; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf5) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37121 [22:01:54] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37059 [22:01:55] 03(NEW) File pages broken in beta - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42741 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend; () [22:01:56] 03(mod) UW master not compatible with MW 1.20.x - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42729 +comment (10Lupo) [22:04:29] 03(mod) ExtensionDistributor does not work: "Invalid response from Extension Distributor remote client" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41081 +comment (10Jesús Martínez Novo (Ciencia Al Poder)) [22:05:01] What causes user creation timestamps to be null sometimes? [22:06:49] <^demon|away> Krenair: If it still happens, that's a bug. For really old users, we didn't log creation. [22:07:23] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "fix min mysql version" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37123 [22:07:27] Guys! [22:07:29] Guys! [22:07:33] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37123 [22:07:44] What's a good way to make a... uh.. [22:07:51] An arbitrarily coloured pixel? [22:08:32] 03(mod) "Did you mean . . ." search feature to automatically spellcheck all search terms - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/974 (10Nurhusien) [22:09:21] ^demon|away, thought it'd be something like that. any idea when creation times started being recorded? [22:10:57] <^demon|away> Whenever the NewUserLog extension was originally written. Svn history would know. [22:11:07] <^demon|away> Or git :) [22:11:07] 03(mod) PHP Fatal error: Call to a member function getRedirectChain() on a non-object - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42740 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [22:11:32] 03(NEW) new sort filters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42742 normal; MediaWiki extensions: ArticleFeedbackv5; () [22:11:52] <^demon|away> Bah, was the directory removed after we merged it to core? [22:11:56] <^demon|away> That would be annoying. [22:12:56] <^demon|away> Krenair: Roughly, Sept 2005: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&dir=prev&type=newusers&user=&page=&tagfilter=&hide_patrol_log=1&hide_review_log=1 [22:13:58] <^demon|away> There's a very old bug about us going back and trying to fill in old registration times for pre-newuserlog people, but it's never been done. [22:14:18] Isarra: Paint? [22:14:30] oh, on linux, then i dont know [22:14:45] So the first one was 23:16, 7 September 2005 User account Lawj1 (Talk | contribs) was created [22:14:46] Isarra: or do you mean how to get a 'random color'? [22:14:57] <^demon|away> MatmaRex: s/Paint/Seashore/ [22:14:59] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:ListUsers/Lawj1 shows no created date/time [22:15:24] <^demon|away> I dunno. Lot of this pre-dated me doing mediawiki work. [22:16:11] Nonono, like with... text. [22:16:13] Just text! [22:16:18] Or something. [22:16:21] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "(bug 42729) Don't load MW-1.21-only class on earlier MW" [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37067 [22:16:46] Is the lack of antialiasing on the transparent elements in vector also for compatibility with old versions of IE? [22:16:47] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "It's registered in $wgAutoloadLocalClasses, not $wgAutoloadClasses :)" [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37067 [22:16:47] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37067 [22:17:12] WojPob (Talk | contribs) (Created on 29 January 2001 at 11:07) [22:18:07] 03(mod) UW master not compatible with MW 1.20.x - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42729 +comment (10Jeroen De Dauw) [22:18:29] 03(NEW) Watchlist preferences should link to the watchlist e-mail notification option - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42743 minor; MediaWiki: User preferences; () [22:18:53] boom, there it is [22:19:08] New review: Lupo; "Thanks for catching that!" [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37067 [22:21:05] philipo, you'll need to create documentation for that new message and put the patch in gerrit [22:21:19] (message docs go in languages/messages/MessagesQqq.php) [22:21:48] 03(NEW) Back button from watchlist diff - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42744 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend (Beta); () [22:21:53] documentation? [22:22:25] ah [22:22:54] getting an account on gerrit appears daunting [22:23:06] in theory, this is a trivial patch [22:23:23] philipo: It really shouldn't be [22:23:30] daunting, I mean [22:24:35] philipo: A typical request looks like https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developer_access#User:Kitchen_Knife [22:24:37] 03(NEW) Empty watchlists show no message - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42745 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend (Beta); () [22:25:33] or even https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developer_access#User:Felizardow [22:25:55] is this really a ploy to convince us to commit more than a single patch? :) [22:26:05] Recruitment by privilege escalation! :) [22:26:26] "Gosh, I have an account, I may as well fix something else." [22:26:47] Ideally, we'd allow people to just create accounts using a web form [22:26:53] We're close to being able to do that [22:29:02] 03(NEW) No fallback for dynamic sections - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42746 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend (Beta); () [22:30:11] 03(NEW) feedback protection does not show up in log - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42747 major; MediaWiki extensions: ArticleFeedbackv5; () [22:30:26] 03(mod) History pushState misbehaving on 4.0.4 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41605 +comment (10Jon) [22:32:10] New patchset: Hoo man; "(bug 41552) Make Special:Version/Credits fully translatable" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37128 [22:34:53] 03(mod) [[Special:Version/Credits]]'s headings are not translateable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41552 +patch-in-gerrit; +comment (10Marius Hoch) [22:35:17] New patchset: Inez; "Get rid of ve.ce.Surface.sluggable - we are not using it anymore." [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37129 [22:36:09] New patchset: Ilonakz; "(Bug 39444) Warning update" [mediawiki/extensions/EtherEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36486 [22:36:51] * marktraceur waves at ilonak [22:38:30] New review: Bean49; "It's not extra whitespace. It's common indenting, consistent with the other lines of the file." [mediawiki/tools/mwdumper] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33334 [22:40:07] New patchset: MaxSem; "Update GeoData to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf5) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37131 [22:41:40] Change merged: MaxSem; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf5) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37131 [22:42:03] New review: Bean49; "If a 2-byte or 3-byte char is cut off at the 255-byte boundary when stored, it becomes an invalid ch..." [mediawiki/tools/mwdumper] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33334 [22:42:05] Change merged: Anomie; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29506 [22:42:17] 03(mod) Watchlist preferences should link to the watchlist e-mail notification option - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42743 +comment (10philip olson) [22:43:19] Hi all. I was wondering: would it be possible to have index.php's action=render accept a "section" parameter? so it would return only a section of the page? [22:44:12] 03(mod) UW master not compatible with MW 1.20.x - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42729 (10Lupo) [22:44:46] Hmm, I see it's deprecated... so to put it another way: would it be possible to make the api.php's action=parse return only the html, without any metadata? [22:45:46] New patchset: Catrope; "Depend on jqueryMsg for the visualeditor-editnotices-button message" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37132 [22:46:00] New review: Hoo man; "Probably it should also be noted that from now on userrights-interwiki permits the changing of all r..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36330 [22:47:03] Waldir: That's easier I think [22:47:09] I was just looking at it for you [22:47:20] Jarry1250: : [22:47:22] * : [22:47:30] god damn it [22:47:33] ** :) [22:48:15] 03(mod) MediaWiki:Contributions should support gender - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40367 +comment (10Robin Pepermans (SPQRobin)) [22:48:34] Waldir: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=parse&page=Wikipedia§ion=3&prop=text&disablepp [22:48:39] Something like that? [22:49:26] Jarry1250: actually, I was thinking of something more like http://www.mediawiki.org/w/api.php?page=API:Parsing_wikitext&action=parse§ion=0&format=txtfm but without the metadata [22:50:05] Waldir: https://www.mediawiki.org/w/api.php?page=API:Parsing_wikitext&action=parse§ion=0&format=txtfm&prop=text&disablepp? [22:51:09] New patchset: Trevor Parscal; "Add cancel button to VisualEditor MediaWiki integration." [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36934 [22:51:30] that's almost it :) but if the remaining content has to be removed programmatically, the version without disablepp would do just fine, I suppose... [22:51:37] New review: Trevor Parscal; "Rebased" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36934 [22:52:34] Jarry1250: I wanted it without the Array stuff [22:52:50] 03(mod) Enable WebFonts for Persian Wikipedia (fa.wp) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42280 (10Behdad Esfahbod) [22:53:12] Waldir: You mean the general surround? Like actual content? [22:53:21] Jarry1250: yep [22:53:29] btw is is disablepp documented somewhere? [22:53:40] It's on the api.php output [22:53:45] I never read the stuff on mw.org [22:53:48] lol [22:53:51] I suspect I'm not the only one. [22:53:54] :) [22:54:01] Hmm, well it wouldn't be tricky to parse that and then output it [22:54:57] Jarry1250: sure [22:55:09] PP = pre-processing? [22:55:40] !spam [22:55:40] For information about combating and handling spam in MediaWiki, see and . [22:56:06] Waldir: yes [22:56:22] thanks MatmaRex [22:56:33] I'll see if I can update mw.org docs [22:59:33] 03(NEW) Apache errors for '/usr/local/apache/common/docroot/wikipedia.org/w/mobileRedirect.php' not found - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42748 normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; () [22:59:40] 03(mod) No interwiki prefix for Wikidata - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41730 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [22:59:45] 03(mod) Apache errors for '/usr/local/apache/common/docroot/wikipedia.org/w/mobileRedirect.php' not found - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42748 +mobile (10Arthur Richards) [23:00:05] MatmaRex, Jarry1250, what is NewPP? [23:00:24] 03(mod) deploy to test2 broke UploadWizard in IE7 at least - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42736 +comment (10Ryan Kaldari) [23:01:05] 03(mod) No interwiki prefix for Wikidata - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41730 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [23:01:08] New patchset: Trevor Parscal; "Add cancel button to VisualEditor MediaWiki integration." [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36934 [23:01:22] 03(mod) [[Special:Version/Credits]]'s headings are not translateable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41552 +comment (10Siebrand) [23:01:22] New review: Hoo man; "Per Parent5446" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33971 [23:01:42] 03(mod) missing css classes in skins - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42738 +comment (10se4598) [23:02:08] New review: Siebrand; "I'd go for do not merge. See bug." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37128 [23:02:36] 03(mod) "Post your feedback" greyed out in ArticleFeedbackv5 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37431 +comment (10se4598) [23:02:45] 03(mod) No interwiki prefix for Wikidata - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41730 +comment (10Nemo) [23:03:04] 03(mod) "Post your feedback" greyed out in ArticleFeedbackv5 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37431 +comment (10se4598) [23:04:46] Waldir: newpp = new preprocessor [23:04:47] 03(mod) display problem, login problem, possible caching issue - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42452 +comment (10Ryan Kaldari) [23:05:18] MatmaRex: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Migration_to_the_new_preprocessor ? [23:05:55] New patchset: Alex Monk; "(bug 12518) Cross-wiki user rights UI should show target wiki groups instead of local" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36330 [23:06:01] New patchset: Inez; "Get rid of ve.ce.Surface.locked (and isLocked, lock, unlock) and instead introduce ve.ce.Surface.renderingEnabled (and isRenderingEnabled, enableRendering, disableRendering) which names are way less confusing and more specific. Also add use of isRendering" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37141 [23:06:43] 03(NEW) Toggling broken on tier 2 phones - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42749 critical; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend; () [23:06:58] Waldir: the new preprocessor is no longer new, but the name stuck [23:07:04] yes, it's probably that [23:07:04] :( [23:07:18] 03(mod) Toggling broken on tier 2 phones - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42749 +comment (10Jon) [23:07:21] these ad-hoc names are horrible for documentation [23:07:49] New patchset: Christian; "Fixing Pre-Annotations" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37143 [23:08:29] New patchset: Inez; "Get rid of ve.ce.Surface.locked (and isLocked, lock, unlock) and instead introduce ve.ce.Surface.renderingEnabled (and isRenderingEnabled, enableRendering, disableRendering) which names are way less confusing and more specific. Also add use of isRendering" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37141 [23:09:08] MatmaRex: lol, and now [[New parser]] redirects to [[Parsoid]] :( [23:09:30] Waldir: that's the new new parser :P [23:09:51] this makes it really hard for newcomers to get familiar with the code [23:10:14] even if one wants to RTFM, they'll probably just get more confused [23:10:56] see this for example: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27087 [23:11:13] 03(mod) [[Special:Version/Credits]]'s headings are not translateable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41552 +comment (10Marius Hoch) [23:12:11] 03(NEW) Page creation should have a customized save button - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42750 normal; VisualEditor: Initialisation and integration; () [23:12:18] 03(mod) Automatic wiki page name suggestion similar as "Google Suggest" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/2486 (10Nurhusien) [23:12:19] 03(mod) Page creation should have a customized save button - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42750 (10Trevor Parscal) [23:13:32] New patchset: Trevor Parscal; "(bug 42750) Save button says "Create page" when creating a new page" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37144 [23:13:34] New patchset: Inez; "Fixing Pre-Annotations" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37143 [23:14:46] New patchset: MaxSem; "Allow disabling/overriding geosearch" [mediawiki/extensions/GeoData] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37146 [23:15:36] 03(mod) 403 HTTP method not allowed. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30951 +comment (10Arthur Richards) [23:16:03] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Unicode in links is percent-encoded when saved as wikitext - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41116 (10Trevor Parscal) [23:17:15] 03(NEW) Call to a member function getPath() on a non-object - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42751 normal; MediaWiki extensions: TimedMediaHandler; () [23:17:50] 03(mod) mobile wikipedia commonly uses non-canonical urls that don't get squid/varnish/whatever cache purged - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30772 +comment (10Arthur Richards) [23:17:56] 03(mod) Switching between desktop and mobile view should redirect to canonical URLs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36182 (10Arthur Richards) [23:18:33] 03(NEW) Raw $PAGEINTRO in email notifications - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42752 normal; MediaWiki: Email; () [23:20:08] New patchset: Trevor Parscal; "Rename and cleanup ve.ce.Surface locking state" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37141 [23:20:22] New patchset: Mwalker; "Totally bloody crazy start!" [wikimedia/fundraising/PaymentsListeners] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37147 [23:20:23] New patchset: Mwalker; "Logging! Almost there!" [wikimedia/fundraising/PaymentsListeners] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37148 [23:20:29] New patchset: Mwalker; "Whitespacing Changes" [wikimedia/fundraising/PaymentsListeners] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37149 [23:20:29] New patchset: Mwalker; "Logging complete!" [wikimedia/fundraising/PaymentsListeners] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37150 [23:20:29] New patchset: Mwalker; "Moar code!" [wikimedia/fundraising/PaymentsListeners] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37151 [23:21:19] Change merged: MaxSem; [mediawiki/extensions/GeoData] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37146 [23:24:15] 03(mod) 'other suggestions' sometimes spill out of the content area when using 'Random' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42704 (10Jon) [23:24:34] New patchset: Mwalker; "Totally bloody crazy start!" [wikimedia/fundraising/PaymentsListeners] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37147 [23:24:48] New patchset: MaxSem; "Update GeoData to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf5) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37152 [23:25:09] Change merged: MaxSem; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf5) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37152 [23:25:49] Change abandoned: Mwalker; "rebased and squashed elsewhere" [wikimedia/fundraising/PaymentsListeners] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37151 [23:25:58] Change abandoned: Mwalker; "rebased and squashed elsewhere" [wikimedia/fundraising/PaymentsListeners] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37150 [23:26:12] Change abandoned: Mwalker; "rebased and squashed elsewhere" [wikimedia/fundraising/PaymentsListeners] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37149 [23:26:22] Change abandoned: Mwalker; "rebased and squashed elsewhere" [wikimedia/fundraising/PaymentsListeners] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37148 [23:31:02] MatmaRex: the disablepp parameter seems to be disabling other stuff, not only the pp report... such as revid, langlinks, categories, etc. -- is it supposed to? [23:31:44] no idea, and i'm off now, sorry. good night europe! [23:32:02] 03(mod) Page creation should have a customized save button - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42750 (10James Forrester) [23:32:13] 03(mod) API's parse module needs option to disable PP report - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24656 +comment (10Waldir) [23:32:26] 03(mod) Page creation should have a customized save button - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42750 +comment (10James Forrester) [23:35:38] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Interface should have an obvious way to get back to reading mode - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37845 +comment (10James Forrester) [23:35:50] 03(mod) API's parse module needs option to disable PP report - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24656 +comment (10Waldir) [23:39:09] New patchset: Trevor Parscal; "(bug 42750) Save button says "Create page" when creating a new page" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37144 [23:45:25] New patchset: Robmoen; "(Bug 40773) Clicking on minor edit now opens in a new tab." [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37154 [23:47:55] 03(mod) "Powered by Semantic MediaWiki" button needs a redesign - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42128 +comment (10MZMcBride) [23:47:59] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Save dialog "minor edit" link should either give a pop-up explanation or target=_new - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40773 +comment (10Rob Moen) [23:55:35] where are the docs for file backend storage systems> [23:57:23] New patchset: Mwalker; "Initial Commit of Amazon Audit Script" [wikimedia/fundraising/tools] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34337 [23:58:24] New patchset: Mwalker; "Amazon Audit Grace Period" [wikimedia/fundraising/tools] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34348