[00:00:08] oh cool! I'll definitely take a look at it [00:00:30] sometimes they talk about us, like https://lwn.net/Articles/527081/ about our new video player. A good place to start is their weekly edition like https://lwn.net/Articles/527551/ -- if you read the week-old version then you don't have to pay [00:01:02] whenever I see news about wikimedia, I get all excited, haha [00:01:35] as for PHP learning resources -- there is an online book of sorts at https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/PHP_Programming . I know you said you generally learn better from books or courses, right? [00:01:41] (in terms of languages) [00:01:45] I know what you mean [00:01:46] yeah! [00:02:34] thank you so much for all the information [00:02:39] marktraceur: if you check around and find a reasonably good PHP book, you can ask Rachel to buy it for the office library and then lend it to her [00:02:43] (to Teresa) [00:02:48] there's so much info out there, it's easy to get overwhelmed. [00:03:07] I totally understand [00:03:22] terrrydactyl: have you ever heard of "spiral learning"? it's pretty useful as a model to keep in mind [00:03:40] I'm almost certain there *is* a PHP book in here [00:03:41] sumanah: i haven't heard of it [00:03:43] * marktraceur looks [00:03:50] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiral_approach [00:03:55] 03(mod) Warn if error_reporting has E_STRICT - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43092 +comment (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) [00:04:14] marktraceur: I looked at the officewiki page that catalogues the library and did a control-F for PHP and did not find it .... [00:04:21] marktraceur: how are the selser tests going? [00:04:54] could anybody explain me why this api queriy does not show the displaytitle? http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&ppprop=staticredirect|displaytitle&prop=pageprops&titles=C5H10O2 [00:05:13] gwicke: Pretty well, there's still some bugs in it here [00:05:23] sumanah: One book, not super helpful for a beginner [00:05:28] ok [00:05:39] marktraceur: looking forward to running those over the refactored selective serializer ;) [00:05:43] *nod* [00:05:45] well, Teresa already knows how to program so she doesn't need the complete noob guide :) [00:05:57] I'm optimising first, to get the cached HTML to work [00:06:02] nope! [00:06:06] * marktraceur switches to parsoid channel [00:06:16] I think the basics of what's different in PHP is helpful [00:06:22] had no idea that there was no main function [00:06:52] terrrydactyl: Well, it's like Python in that respect [00:07:34] 03(mod) Remove "hits" from CAPTCHA dictionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/16166 +comment (10Platonides) [00:08:15] Yeah it is! I artificially added a main function because it was just used a lot in examples. [00:08:45] :) [00:10:05] marktraceur: Dereckson hasn't replied to me about the name yet [00:10:36] Something simpler like GitFiles maybe? [00:12:45] I'm fine with anything. Not really attached to names. :) [00:13:35] terrrydactyl: I've heard good things about the lynda.com courses [00:14:14] and I liked my CodeLesson course http://codelesson.com/ [00:14:41] New patchset: Hoo man; "(bug 42819) AbuseFilter API does not give diff information" [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/38701 [00:15:03] sumanah: I'll take a look. I like the video-type classes. There's so many of them out there now. [00:15:10] cool [00:15:24] any suggestion on the cheapest good server I could run wikimedia on? [00:15:32] in case you already know [00:15:37] SereCore: a VPS probably [00:15:38] but if your main question is "what are the most important differences for a skilled C coder who's about to dive into PHP" then StackOverflow might be the place to ask [00:15:56] New review: Hoo man; "Fixed fields requested from DB (more are needed for permission checks)" [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/38701 [00:16:25] New review: Hoo man; "Thanks for this enhancement :)" [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/38701 [00:16:25] Change merged: Hoo man; [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/38701 [00:16:45] SereCore: how many concurrent visitors and editors do you expect? [00:16:54] 03(mod) AbuseFilter API does not give diff information - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42819 +comment (10Marius Hoch) [00:17:10] a small wiki [00:17:19] < 100 users [00:17:30] <15 concurrent editors [00:17:53] terrrydactyl: Names are important. They convey the quintessence of your application and are the first thing your users will see. [00:17:56] maybe more like <5 concurrent editors [00:19:09] New patchset: Mwalker; "Logging every Transaction During Audit" [wikimedia/fundraising/tools] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39308 [00:19:12] 03(NEW) requesting multiple pageprops returns incomplete result - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43251 critical; MediaWiki: API; () [00:19:41] SereCore: if you want a cost efficient solution, I would recommend a 256 Mb VPS (especially if it's burstable to 512 Mb for short periods of time). [00:19:54] SereCore: you don't need a dedicated server [00:19:57] 03(NEW) Image folder doesn't work unless chmod 777 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43252 normal; MediaWiki: File management; () [00:21:00] SereCore: 128 Mb wouldn't be enough for MySQL InnoDB [00:21:01] do you have any reccomendations on servers in that range? [00:21:12] New patchset: Hoo man; "(bug 42802) Let the client specify multiple filters for list=abuselog" [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37346 [00:21:12] i see [00:21:31] Dereckson: GitFiles would work. [00:22:03] People who like FreeBSD VPS often recommend http://www.johncompanies.com/jc_bsd.html / on Freenode, Linux people like www.linode.com [00:22:08] 03(mod) Image folder doesn't work unless chmod 777 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43252 +comment (10Brion Vibber) [00:23:03] is 512 mb RAM enough? [00:23:08] Yes. [00:23:18] brion: storing files in the DB? :) [00:23:42] AaronSchulz: that's actually something i wouldn't mind as an available option, maybe even default. saves having to fudge around your permissions [00:23:47] SereCore: I know someone who is happy with MediaWiki on a 512/1024 VPS at http://buyvm.net/ by the way [00:24:01] but like i said… if any web user can read your files they can read your username and password for the db, so it's no more secure on shared hosting ;) [00:24:57] hmm BuyVM looks like a good deal [00:25:03] SereCore: the two first have an high quality reputation, frantech's buyvm is notable for cheapness [00:25:26] i see [00:25:37] terrrydactyl: sumanah seems to me a very creative people. If you give her a 30 words summary of your extension, I'm sure she will happy to make other name suggestions. [00:27:18] New patchset: Hoo man; "(bug 42802) Let the client specify multiple filters for list=abuselog" [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37346 [00:28:47] How to delete a page *and* its history in a wikimedia instance I own? [00:28:50] New review: Hoo man; "Fixed check whether one of the included filters is private (that was added after the inital commit)." [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37346 [00:28:54] would 256 gb ram be fine if it was more like 50 user accounts/ 3 concurrent users? [00:28:58] and maybe a forum? [00:29:08] * Dereckson nods. [00:29:19] what about 128 :) [00:29:24] SereCore: you would probably be able to store all your site in RAM [00:29:33] very fast :) [00:29:33] Nope. MySQL InnoDB requires a lot of RAM. [00:30:05] Dereckson: 50 users? 256GB RAM? [00:30:05] (and operations like thumbnails generation or software update could be problematic too with less RAM) [00:30:18] hellekin: wow, that bad, huh? [00:30:22] hellekin: 50 visitors, 5-15 editors [00:30:25] !schema | hellekin [00:30:25] hellekin : http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Database_layout [00:30:33] thank you sumanah [00:30:41] hellekin: also see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:MediaWiki_architecture [00:31:20] btw Dereckson would you feel comfortable writing up what you just said into a mediawiki-l email? then we will have an easier time pointing people to it in the future when they ask this question [00:31:22] it comes up alot [00:31:25] a lot* [00:31:38] * sumanah thinks about the Alot http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2010/04/alot-is-better-than-you-at-everything.html [00:32:23] yup. my question seems pretty simple but wasn't covered in any wiki pages or posts [00:32:28] sumanah: My extension will allow users to pull code from a file in a git repository and paste it on a wiki page. Maybe you can come up with a name? [00:32:38] I love the alot monster. [00:32:57] or was that something else [00:32:58] SereCore: I think some people who work for WMF, for example, feel uncomfortable publicly saying "I endorse *this* choice", and so it' [00:33:08] it's a little underserved [00:33:15] i see [00:33:51] terrrydactyl: and so the wiki page will be constantly updated? with the lines of code from the file as it is in the git repo? [00:33:54] * hoo did so much AbuseFilter stuff today... bah [00:34:08] server requirements would be a pretty good thing to post though [00:34:12] (or it's more like a PORTAL through which you view that file?) [00:34:22] like the Guardian of Forever from Star Trek? [00:34:42] SereCore: the installation requirements for MediaWiki do get listed on mediawiki.org [00:34:44] !install [00:34:45] Installing MediaWiki takes between 10 and 30 minutes, and involves uploading/copying files and running the installer script to configure the software. Full instructions can be found in the INSTALL file supplied in the distribution archive. An installation manual can also be found at . See also: !download [00:34:52] sumanah: for now, we're pulling the entire git repository and updating it (not sure if manually or automatically) [00:35:26] sumanah: marktraceur and I didn't get too far in discussing the details and I haven't hashed it out with Dereckson yet. [00:35:46] sumanah: I don't think there was any indication that a single file from a git repo could be reliably viewed without pulling the whole repo.... [00:36:11] so, a cutesy name would be GitHere! or the like but I wince at myself. FileFetch is accurate. Git2Page is reasonable [00:36:29] GitEater? [00:36:33] 03(NEW) Database error in CategoryTree::renderParents due to missing column. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43253 normal; Wikimedia: Extension setup; () [00:37:12] sumanah, yep, I've looked at it. but it's all software guidance... no info on what kind of (hardware) server space we need to buy [00:37:24] sumanah and SereCore > the requirements part is a tricky question: it varies wildly from the real need of the person (what services will run besides on MediaWiki?) [00:37:29] 03(mod) Database error in CategoryTree::renderParents due to missing column. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43253 normal->04CRIT (10Matthew Flaschen) [00:37:31] So we only have this short statement: [00:37:33] "The recommended minimum requirements are 256MB of RAM for a single-computer website and 80MB of storage, although this will not suffice for a busy public site or a site with uploading enabled. Some users have reported running MediaWiki on computers with as little as 48MB of RAM." [00:37:37] I actually like Git2Page because it's clearly about getting something from Git to a page, and since it's a MW extension it's clear that it's a wiki page [00:38:19] also terrrydactyl you should totally save the logs of this IRC conversation to turn into a blog post about your project! since you just explained it clearly to me in a few sentences that you can just reuse. [00:39:13] What table in the media wiki db contains the contents of articles? [00:39:17] Git2Page is indeed simple and clear. [00:40:09] theKaramanukian: the text table [00:40:12] sumanah: can I send you a private message? [00:40:27] yes [00:40:32] but I am not particularly expert [00:40:41] Dereckson, did I miss that on the wiki, or did you just make that up? [00:40:42] theKaramanukian: note, on some installs (basically only wmf's setup) the text table is in a different db (External Storage) [00:40:44] hellekin: I suggest that you send a note to mediawiki-l if you haven't gotten help here [00:40:44] theKaramanukian: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Database_layout [00:40:49] !lists | hellekin [00:40:49] hellekin : mediawiki-l and wikitech-l are the primary mailing lists for MediaWiki-related issues. See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mailing_lists for details. [00:40:58] !schema theKaramanukian [00:40:59] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Database_layout [00:41:06] theKaramanukian: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Text_table [00:41:07] SereCore: it's hidden on http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Installation_requirements [00:41:11] theKaramanukian: also see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:MediaWiki_architecture [00:41:40] theKaramanukian: note, the system is kind of complicated, sometimes text blobs are concatenated together for compression, and all sorts of weird things [00:42:15] Dereckson: I think Git2Page is a good name. Descriptive and memorable. [00:43:04] hellekin: Do you want to permenantly delete (like actually make it gone), or do you want to "delete" it, with the possibility of restoring the page later (what we noramally refer to deleting) [00:43:39] [19:32] sumanah: My extension will allow users to pull code from a file in a git repository and paste it on a wiki page. Maybe you can come up with a name? [00:43:42] To what end? [00:43:56] Dereckson, wow, sorry I missed that.. though I may still want guidance on the specs I need [00:44:02] bawolff: the former. I want it gone, and restart it from scratch [00:44:22] I were asking someone about the name. He doesn't share our enthousiasm, he notes most of foo2bar are format converters. However, nor Git, nor a page are a format. [00:45:03] Hmmm [00:45:17] GitPaste? [00:45:29] What's the purpose of the extension? [00:45:31] hellekin: Normally we don't reccomend that (since in normal delete, only admins can see "deleted" content, and only if they're looking for it, which is normally good enough), but i believe there is a maintinance script to totally delete, let me double check [00:46:02] * bawolff has honestly been kind of wondering the same thing as Susan [00:46:14] Susan: illustrate code samples [00:46:31] I don't follow. [00:46:45] 03(mod) Image folder doesn't work unless chmod 777 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43252 +comment (10Rob Kam) [00:46:54] bawolff: oh, only admins can see deleted content, that's reassuring. But then, If the page is recreated, is the former history coming back along with it? [00:47:15] no [00:47:23] hellekin: yes, although the person restoring can choose to only undelete part of the former history [00:47:34] Susan, they want code samples to figure out the purpose and functionaly of the program, in order to help with a name [00:47:49] Heh. [00:47:57] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mentorship_programs/Possible_projects#Write_an_extension_for_pulling_files_from_a_git_repository [00:48:00] ok, so if I restore only the first instance of the page, the rest of the history won't appear to normal users? [00:48:36] New patchset: Brion VIBBER; "Commits are awesome" [mediawiki/extensions/ZeroRatedMobileAccess] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39336 [00:49:04] hellekin: Correct [00:49:37] hellekin: Its also possible to add a second level of users who can super-delete things, that only they can see/undelete [00:49:58] Dereckson: terrrydactyl - https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Engineering/Project_documentation_howto - it would probably be good to create an activity page for this internship on mediawiki.org that includes, like, the text of the email marktraceur sent me once upon a time bubbling with ideas for this, and the name of the potential customer [00:50:07] phew, I feel better now. Thank you for your help! sumanah what should I send to the mailing-list? [00:50:12] 03(mod) Restore functioning of $CHANGEDORCREATED for backward compatibility of outdated enotif_body - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42941 (10Logan) [00:50:20] Righto [00:50:24] * marktraceur digs up email [00:50:25] on Wikipedia they use that to deal with one people post things on pages like "Here's my ex's phone number, please go stalk him/her" [00:50:26] bawolff: somekind of user with more deletion power than admin? [00:50:27] hellekin: the question you want answered :-) [00:50:30] Susan, sorry responded to wrong person ;/ [00:50:33] They refer to it as oversight [00:50:48] hellekin: See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/RevDelete for details of that [00:50:52] New patchset: Kaldari; "Allow edit summaries to be parsed or stripped." [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39337 [00:51:09] hellekin: glad you feel better! [00:51:09] sumanah: oh,you mean, instead of asking here. So I can send an email with a howto super-delete :) [00:51:28] hellekin: I only suggest it in case you don't get the answers you need here. But if you are then of course you don't need to :) [00:51:35] It's also possible to hide a certain revision in the history of page without deleting the whole thing [00:51:47] hellekin: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/RevDelete has info on how that system works [00:52:03] yep,thank you bawolff I'mlooking at it [00:52:18] oh whoops, I wrote that twice didn't I. [00:52:51] we ought to have a word for that if we don't already, for "superdeletion". "obliteration"? "the memory hole"? [00:52:56] Change merged: Adamw; [wikimedia/fundraising/tools] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39308 [00:53:00] I will prepare a MediaWiki server recommandation blog post. [00:53:06] Dereckson: cool! thanks! [00:53:18] :) bawolff is it safe to enable it, clear that page, and disable it afterwards? [00:53:27] sumanah: There's a user on wikinews (brianmc) who always refers to oversight as "the memory hole" [00:53:31] hellekin: yep [00:53:32] New review: Brion VIBBER; "Just making some comments on my commit." [mediawiki/extensions/ZeroRatedMobileAccess] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39336 [00:53:50] super cool. Awesomeness. Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah :) [00:54:28] bawolff, does the word Premon mean anything to you? or do I have the wong guy? [00:54:36] sumanah: usually though its referred to as either "oversight" or "suppress" [00:54:48] SereCore: Sorry, no idea what you're talking about [00:54:54] New review: Dfoy; "trying this out" [mediawiki/extensions/ZeroRatedMobileAccess] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39336 [00:54:55] okay [00:55:20] New review: Dfoy; "trying this out" [mediawiki/extensions/ZeroRatedMobileAccess] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39336 [00:55:51] terrrydactyl: FWIW https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:MarkTraceur/Git2Page/Initial_proposal [00:56:28] marktraceur: Thanks! [00:56:28] I sort of changed the requirements of it in my head, but that's the original theory [00:57:08] thanks marktraceur [00:57:23] About Git2Pages -> we're in a MediaWiki context, and "to" means something into another thing. Even if "Git" is a metonymy for "an excerpt from a file on a revision on a Git repository" and "Page" for a page part's wikitext, it still sounds okay form me. [00:57:28] terrrydactyl: that engineering doc HOWTO will be helpful for you in thinking out what kinds of docs you will want [00:57:54] Dereckson: yeah, I'm fine with that, and nice use of metonymy! I always confuse it with synecdoche [00:57:56] ok, dinner [00:58:41] Change merged: Bsitu; [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39337 [00:58:42] New patchset: Brion VIBBER; "This is a test commit for learning about gerrit" [mediawiki/extensions/ZeroRatedMobileAccess] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39336 [00:58:44] marktraceur: what does that have to do with git [01:00:23] bawolff: It's evolved since then, quite a bit. We decided one of the better ways to accomplish the goal was to use git repositories that likely already exist and just replicate their contents. [01:00:51] Maybe more accurately I decided--I'm not sure who else weighed in on it, it may have been just internal thought process [01:01:26] This proposal is very different than what I thought the current project was. [01:02:21] terrrydactyl: Yes, it's true, the idea changed a lot [01:02:45] New patchset: Kaldari; "Update Echo to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf6) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39339 [01:02:55] Change merged: Kaldari; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf6) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39339 [01:02:56] 03(NEW) Watchlist full article view truncates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43254 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend (Beta); () [01:04:09] While, as I said on talk:OPW, I have no idea what the use case is/what the goal of it is all, but then again I'm not involved so its not really my concern [01:04:27] Change abandoned: Brion VIBBER; "Just testing and demoing gerrit." [mediawiki/extensions/ZeroRatedMobileAccess] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39336 [01:05:13] bawolff: I think it'll be useful to show code snippets from e.g. MediaWiki or config files without having unwieldy blocks everywhere. But maybe it will evolve into something else, I don't know [01:07:43] New review: CSteipp; "Would it be better to set it to $wgMaxShellTime instead of infinite?" [mediawiki/extensions/ConfirmEdit] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39329 [01:08:18] New patchset: Kaldari; "Update LiquidThreads to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf6) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39340 [01:08:30] Actually, there is an OK paste software that I use that also runs on git. So that could be tied in pretty easily. [01:08:31] Change merged: Kaldari; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf6) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39340 [01:12:49] Change merged: Demon; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf6) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39326 [01:14:20] 03(mod) Image folder doesn't work unless chmod 777 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43252 +comment (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) [01:20:05] New review: CSteipp; "Looks good to me, and Marius verified it's working in test, so I'm going to go ahead and merge." [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39317 [01:20:05] Change merged: CSteipp; [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39317 [01:23:39] 03(mod) Page content not displayed properly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40361 +comment (10[[kgh]]) [01:24:44] 03(NEW) Don't serve Special:GettingStarted to mobile users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43255 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend (Beta); () [01:26:40] 03(mod) Semantic Project Management / version working with SMW 1.7.1 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35882 +comment (10[[kgh]]) [01:27:00] 03(mod) requesting multiple pageprops returns incomplete result - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43251 04CRIT->15enhancement; +comment (10Brad Jorsch) [01:27:36] 03(mod) API prop=pageprops ppprop should accept multiple values - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43251 summary (10Brad Jorsch) [01:29:00] 03(mod) Don't serve Special:GettingStarted to mobile users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43255 +comment (10Steven Walling) [01:29:09] 03(mod) Database error in CategoryTree::renderParents due to missing column. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43253 +comment (10Dereckson) [01:29:45] 03(mod) Don't serve Special:GettingStarted to mobile users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43255 +comment (10Steven Walling) [01:30:15] 03(mod) Don't serve Special:GettingStarted to mobile users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43255 +comment (10Steven Walling) [01:30:29] 03(mod) Database error in CategoryTree::renderParents due to missing column. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43253 +schema-change +shell (10Dereckson) [01:31:11] 03(mod) API prop=pageprops ppprop should accept multiple values - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43251 (10Legoktm) [01:47:35] 03(mod) Don't serve Special:GettingStarted to mobile users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43255 +comment (10Jon) [01:49:13] 03(mod) Watchlist full article view truncates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43254 +comment (10Jon) [01:56:28] 03(mod) Don't serve Special:GettingStarted to mobile users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43255 +comment (10Steven Walling) [02:04:16] 03(mod) Don't serve Special:GettingStarted to mobile users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43255 +comment (10Jon) [02:13:30] 03(NEW) Image Upload eror before i've even tried to upload an image - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43256 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend (Beta); () [02:17:18] New patchset: Bsitu; "More handling to replication delay" [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39347 [02:24:24] Change merged: Kaldari; [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39347 [02:26:20] New patchset: Kaldari; "Update Echo to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf6) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39348 [02:26:33] Change merged: Kaldari; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf6) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39348 [02:31:43] 03(NEW) Request for general and/or specific justifications of 'left' and 'right' in gallery images' caption text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43257 enhancement; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; () [02:51:13] New patchset: Parent5446; "Changed messages and message keys for standardization." [mediawiki/extensions/SecureSessions] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37115 [03:05:45] New patchset: Hydriz; "Changing version number to begin release for 1.2.0" [mediawiki/extensions/HostStats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39350 [03:06:33] Change merged: Hydriz; [mediawiki/extensions/HostStats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39350 [03:07:43] right... now I am not sure if I need to Verified+1 or +2 it to merge it lol [03:10:20] New patchset: Hydriz; "Release Version 1.2 (2012-12-19)." [mediawiki/extensions/HostStats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39351 [03:10:45] Change merged: Hydriz; [mediawiki/extensions/HostStats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39351 [03:11:37] New patchset: Mattflaschen; "Remove dead code (GettingStartedHooks doesn't exist)" [mediawiki/extensions/GettingStarted] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39352 [03:12:16] any ideas why the infobox on this page isn't working - its not right justifing it / putting it in a table to the right [03:12:21] http://wiki.monacohideout.com/Andy_Schatz [03:12:41] * Susan peeks. [03:12:46] You're missing CSS. [03:12:55] DarkunderdoG: This template came from the English Wikipedia? [03:14:37] 03(mod) Don't serve Special:GettingStarted to mobile users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43255 +comment (10Matthew Flaschen) [03:14:59] yea [03:15:20] any idea how i put in the missing css :P [03:15:28] DarkunderdoG: http://wiki.monacohideout.com/MediaWiki:Common.css [03:15:30] Go there. [03:15:40] And copy the relevant code from . [03:15:50] Search the page for "infobox". [03:15:58] /* Infobox template style */ [03:16:01] You need all that shit. [03:16:39] New patchset: Hydriz; "Begin development for 1.3" [mediawiki/extensions/HostStats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39353 [03:16:59] Change merged: Hydriz; [mediawiki/extensions/HostStats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39353 [03:16:59] you are awesome :) [03:34:31] [04:06:37] New review: Spage; "Nice catch, funny how there's no warning." [mediawiki/extensions/GettingStarted] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39352 [04:06:37] Change merged: Spage; [mediawiki/extensions/GettingStarted] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39352 [04:22:45] New patchset: Santhosh; "Whitespace and formatting cleanup" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39354 [04:31:49] New patchset: Santhosh; "Fix the close icon action" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39355 [04:40:49] New patchset: Mattflaschen; "(bug 43214) Don't JSON-encode strings for HTML table." [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39175 [05:01:01] New patchset: Mattflaschen; "(bug 43214) Don't JSON-encode strings for HTML table." [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39175 [05:18:53] #mediawiki-i18n is quiet, so: anyone here know how to localize quotation marks? i must be grepping for the wrong thing. [05:59:28] ori-l: I've seen it done with alternating marks. i.e. if a message has single quotes, the string is in double. [06:01:21] marktraceur: right, but some languages use different glyphs [06:02:40] Oh hm. [06:02:50] I wonder how l10n-bot does that. [06:27:50] Change merged: Ori.livneh; [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39175 [06:31:46] 03(NEW) Tooltip broken on outdent button - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43258 normal; VisualEditor: User Interface; () [06:40:26] New patchset: Santhosh; "Smaller font size for longer source message string" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39356 [06:58:44] Where can I clone the MW repository from? [06:58:55] I want to have a look at the code. [06:59:15] [[mw:Download from Git [06:59:17] ]] [06:59:28] Amgine: Got it, thanks. [06:59:34] yw [07:04:26] Hm, the repository isn't in github.com/mediawiki -- isn't everything supposed to be mirrored there? [07:06:22] Is all of MW written in PHP, or are there parts like the parser/ filesystem layer that are written in other languages? [07:07:16] github.com/wikimedia [07:07:50] Most of the software is written in php or js. There is a current effort to build a new parser in node.js, called parsoid, which will then be re-implemented in C++ (as I understand it.) [07:08:09] [[mw:Parsoid]] [07:08:26] legoktm: Ah, yes. Typo there. [07:08:47] :) [07:09:52] Amgine: Ah, I see. It's currently an extension? [07:10:30] Yes, and it's mostly (90+%) working. Actually, probably higher than that. [07:10:43] It is used by the VisualEditor. [07:10:45] See [07:10:52] !e VisualEditor [07:10:52] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:VisualEditor [07:11:13] Amgine: ~98% now, and we're rethinking the C++ thing [07:11:25] really? [07:11:28] <*likes* the C++ thing> [07:11:32] (about rethinking c+=) [07:11:33] A lot. Really. [07:11:36] what's the plan b? [07:11:48] apergos: Switching to HTML so we don't need to parse anything :) [07:11:55] waaiiittt [07:11:59] no wikimarkup? [07:12:10] You'll still realize a huge performance improvement with C++ [07:12:11] so just wysiwig [07:12:24] to preserve the 'easy to edit' piece of the puzzle [07:12:38] and then html for those who are happy to bypass the wysiwig editor? [07:12:54] No, it roundtrips from html to wikitax. [07:13:01] And vice versa. [07:13:05] yes I know, that's what it does now [07:13:33] I'm asking what is meant by 'html, no parsing' [07:13:51] Right, so there are assurances it will continue to do so. But it will reasonably be extended to, say, odt or docx markup as well as wikitax. [07:14:24] It will simply store as html as the canonical. [07:15:02] How are wiki pages currently stored? [07:15:10] wikitax ascii. [07:15:17] (well, no, but I mean... [07:15:20] so text revisions would be stored as (compressed diff history blobs of) normalized wikitext? [07:15:25] er [07:15:29] Yes. [07:15:29] normalized html? [07:15:48] and then converted on the fly to 'format of your choice' for people editing? [07:15:52] apergos: This is clearly a long term plan. [07:15:57] oh sure [07:16:00] How do you diff and compress blobs? It's implemented by MW in PHP?! [07:16:06] Yes. [07:16:13] and I'm not objecting or anything, just trying to work out the ramifications [07:16:17] apergos: But yeah, basically "bollocks to two formats, HTML is what we should have been using" [07:16:23] hahaha [07:16:26] [07:16:35] well the plan was 'make it easy for users to edit' [07:16:51] and it doesn't matter *how* it's easy, as long as it's easy right? I mean that was the point of wikitext [07:16:52] atragnon: currently it's in compressed blob ascii wikitax. [07:16:55] iirc.\ [07:17:08] apergos: I'd imagine that, if we wanted to preserve wikitext editing for some reason, we can pretty well round-trip to wikitext and back to HTML, as well. [07:17:18] Yuck. [07:17:19] right [07:17:27] I'm thinking that bots will want wikitext or something like it [07:17:46] apergos: Are you kidding? I'd be ten times happier, as a bot author, dealing with a DOM. [07:17:48] Today, we should probably write Git commit objects for each revision. [07:17:54] well I'm thinking aobut templates [07:17:59] and their lua replacements [07:18:02] And use something like the Git object store to manage all the content. [07:18:15] a lot of what bots do is change/add/clean up those [07:18:31] and that's a much bigger pain when having to dig through the html for your bit [07:19:04] MarkTraceur: many bot coders are much more comfortable with text. [07:19:06] git commit objects for 21 million pages and several hundred million revisions, [07:19:09] I don't think so [07:19:18] apergos: I'm not sure I know what you mean about the template things [07:19:27] ok well [07:19:32] * apergos goes to get an example [07:19:34] apergos: You don't think it'll be fast enough? [07:19:39] * marktraceur is excited [07:19:58] The current storage format is optimized for this sort of thing? [07:20:04] artagnon: There are actually methods for using git and MediaWiki together, ask paulproteus (as he uses that utility and will know much more about it) [07:20:21] (though he may be asleep, being on U.S. East Coast) [07:20:25] http://el.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=%CF%84%CF%81%CE%AD%CF%87%CF%89&action=edit [07:20:30] marktraceur: Yeah, I had a look at a Git-MediaWiki bridge. [07:20:49] ... but I'm more interested in how MediaWiki actually does storage. [07:20:59] * marktraceur is totally lost, apergos [07:21:02] as a bot author, if we need to say add a parameter to every invocation of {{τ}} (we've had to do that sort of thing in the past) [07:21:07] Oh [07:21:10] I;d rather do it by bot on the template [07:21:13] not on the expanded html [07:21:18] a zillion times rather. [07:21:27] metric or imperial zillion? [07:21:45] metric, as I'm in greece [07:22:14] apergos: See the rdfa for templates, https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Parsoid/RDFa_vocabulary#Template_content [07:22:44] artagnon: https://svn.wikimedia.org/doc/ may be a better entrance to how MediaWiki's internals work. [07:22:55] artagnon: the text of a revision is stored together with a pile of other revisions for the same page, either as a diff against a previous version or full text by itself, and compressed. there are several forms depending on which version of mw was running at the time [07:23:07] apergos: You can still edit template parameters, etc., through HTML. The benefits would be A) The template expansion wouldn't need to be parsed, B) You wouldn't need to wait for any server-side operations on the content [07:23:40] i doubt you could get away with disabling editing via wikitext; it's practically muscle-memory for some editors. [07:23:52] if the meta tagging is good enough that will do [07:24:19] I don't care if it's inline html comments as xml or what it is, as long as it's easy to find [07:24:21] apergos: Well, that's the job :) [07:24:46] ok I'll have a look at this, needs some though [07:24:47] t [07:25:16] well one huuuuge side benefit [07:25:26] all those people who want html dumps of the site [07:25:27] apergos: I see. I'll try looking at the internals. [07:25:32] wait for th enext dump run and there it is :-D [07:25:49] New patchset: Santhosh; "Disable save button till translation is edited" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39357 [07:26:01] also artagnon see this: http://wikitech.wikimedia.org/view/Text_storage_data [07:26:11] marktraceur: what parts are you working on these days? [07:26:17] if you want to shed a few tears about how bad it is :-D [07:27:00] [07:27:29] * apergos lives for the day when all revisions are stored in the *same* format (and are cleaned up to the best of our ability) [07:27:33] apergos: Thanks. [07:27:37] yw [07:28:01] apergos: a proper template language ranks higher in my list of nice things to have [07:28:09] this is for the live site, if you are running your own you don't normally use external store of course [07:28:13] apergos: oooh. oooh. crazy idea. exception / error handling! [07:28:14] Oddly, SusanBrooke was mentioning something about that earlier, apergos... [07:28:37] ori-l: I've been wrestling with some testing stuff, trying to get it all working well [07:28:49] bonsaikitten: well I can respect your views, it's just as th edump maintainer every time I have to go dig around in there looking for what's wrong with a speciic revision it makes me sad [07:29:18] We've been working on only serializing the parts we have to, so the testing involves random changes to the DOM. Which means a lot of complication. [07:29:20] bonsaikitten: the lua rollout will be pretty exciting [07:29:39] apergos: yeah, I can relate to that. luckily I only have ~500MB data trapped in MW, but the lack of sanity makes it exquisitely hard to keep consistent [07:29:55] marktraceur: cool! important stuff [07:31:17] ori-l: Good to hear :) [07:31:35] yep, it's amazing that this plan (basically free-form text with some duct tape and paper clips) has worked so well so long [07:31:39] ori-l: Now that the landing page thing is deployed, what's E3 onto? [07:32:22] multiple fronts :) i'm working on eventlogging, still [07:33:27] we added a Schema: namespace to metawiki which contains JSON Schema. You can declare a ResourceLoader module by giving it a schema title and a revision ID, and it generates JavaScript code that does logging and validation [07:33:49] for example: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Schema:OpenTask [07:34:58] accreation works well for coral reefs. [07:35:05] accretion [07:35:06] to use it, you simply: $wgResourceLoaderModules[] $wgResourceModules[ 'schema.OpenTask' ] = array( 'class' => 'ResourceLoaderSchemaModule', 'schema' => 'OpenTask' ); [07:35:35] Nice! [07:35:41] Amgine: is that a jab? if so -- care to make it explicit? [07:36:36] i'm working on the back-end right now: server-side validation, storage, etc. [07:36:41] ori-l: Not specifically a jab. Adding things without a bigger plan to simplify things can be a problem: it is what led to the current circumstance. [07:36:46] New review: Physikerwelt; "see my answer to your comments" [mediawiki/extensions/Math] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30177 [07:37:11] Amgine: it's a dramatic simplification over the previous status quo [07:37:31] New patchset: Physikerwelt; "Restructuring Math classes" [mediawiki/extensions/Math] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30177 [07:37:35] Good. It was the plan/specification I meant to highlight. [07:37:35] code is data is documentation is code :) [07:38:11] homoiconic analytics [07:38:30] [07:39:10] JSON Schema is a exists as an IETF draft [07:39:38] But mediawiki parser spec does not, other than some notes by GWicke. [07:40:17] gwicke is doing the work of twelve very smart programmers [07:40:18] I assume these are already outdated -> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Parsoid/MediaWiki_DOM_spec [07:40:36] No arguments from me! [07:40:37] yes, without a spec no ne else can write a parser that is guaranteed to perform the same way [07:40:51] and we all know how well that worked out [07:40:52] BINGO!!!@! [07:41:14] Amgine: That page is only somewhat out of date [07:41:14] of course while things are still in development that's expected [07:41:15] well, it's not like this point is lost on anybody [07:41:33] but you can't really have a successful complex project like this fully specced from the start [07:41:34] just at the end of the road having a spec together with the code would be ultra awesome [07:41:37] you discover things as you go along [07:41:40] yep [07:41:56] It's nice, however, to document changes to the spec as you evolve. [07:42:01] So others may also. [07:43:31] Amgine: That page is only somewhat out of date [07:43:52] 03(mod) Abusefilter API does not check for abusefilter-view-private userright - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42814 +comment (10Marius Hoch) [07:45:37] Amgine: i don't disagree, exactly, but the complexity of the problem and the huge strides made by the parsoid team make occasionally-out-of-date documentation eminently excusable [07:45:58] morning [07:46:09] Not a worry ori-l. This is something I've sort of whinged about since, oh, 2006. [07:46:22] Nikerabbit: plop! :) [07:46:53] uga [07:47:07] is gerrit-wm broken? [07:48:13] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39357 [07:48:14] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39356 [07:48:14] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39355 [07:48:14] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39354 [07:48:22] such a question, Nikerabbit. [07:48:52] Amgine: https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Parsoid/MediaWiki_DOM_spec&action=edit [07:48:55] Amgine: some delay it seems [07:49:25] [07:49:55] Change abandoned: Nikerabbit; "was split" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39079 [07:52:47] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39319 [07:54:13] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39223 [07:58:54] New review: Siebrand; "lgtm." [mediawiki/extensions/SecureSessions] (master); V: 0 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37115 [08:08:28] 03(mod) Navigation/Toolbox side panel is not collapsible - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43227 +comment (10Gregor Hagedorn) [08:32:29] 03(mod) Non-printable characters (e.g. Unicode control characters) in wikitext page source - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/21767 summary; +comment (10Dan Wolff) [08:51:28] New patchset: Amire80; "Add a comment about the constructor" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39358 [09:14:05] New patchset: Hoo man; "(Bug 42064) Add a hook to AbuseFilter" [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34330 [09:15:19] New review: Hoo man; "Rebased" [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34330 [09:21:36] New review: Hoo man; "This somehow needs to be translatable (abusefilter-edit-builder-vars-global-user-groups is the name ..." [mediawiki/extensions/CentralAuth] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/38895 [09:23:57] 03(NEW) Mail notifications from ro.wp do not contain [[MediaWiki:Enotif body intro changed]] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43259 major; Wikimedia: Site requests; () [09:25:02] 03(mod) Autocategorization by UploadWizard makes [[:commons:Category:Uploaded with UploadWizard]] uselessly large - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42548 +comment (10Rainer Rillke @commons.wikimedia) [09:32:04] New review: Hoo man; "Tested with https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/38895 ... worked fine. Thanks for the patch, definitly a ..." [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34330 [09:32:05] Change merged: Hoo man; [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34330 [09:32:53] 03(mod) Make AbuseFilter aware of Wikibase content models. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42064 +comment (10Marius Hoch) [09:33:35] 03(mod) Make AbuseFilter aware of Wikibase content models. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42064 +comment (10Marius Hoch) [09:33:40] 03(mod) Mail notifications from ro.wp do not contain [[MediaWiki:Enotif body intro changed]] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43259 +comment (10Strainu) [09:36:14] 03(mod) Use localStorage as a queue to increase fraction of events that eventually fire - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42815 +comment (10Ori Livneh) [09:41:22] New review: Siebrand; "Please add a hooks.txt as is done for core (and Translate) for example. Otherwise it's very hard to ..." [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34330 [09:46:39] 03(mod) Schema namespace edits turn '/' into "\/" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43214 +comment (10Ori Livneh) [09:54:01] 03(mod) mysterious error if module registration throws an exception - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42641 +comment (10Ori Livneh) [09:59:13] 03(mod) Javascript error in wd.template when language is set to French - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42956 +comment (10Lydia Pintscher) [10:14:53] 03(mod) Grammar problems with UI messages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37670 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [10:15:34] 03(NEW) Special:BrowseData with SQL error browsing a category having filters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43260 critical; MediaWiki extensions: SemanticDrilldown; () [10:23:06] 03(mod) Spamming continuing on beta wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39446 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [10:28:18] 03(mod) Schema namespace edits turn '/' into "\/" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43214 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [10:30:18] New patchset: Spage; "Copy title attr to new #back-to-referrer button" [mediawiki/extensions/GettingStarted] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39360 [10:31:05] 03(mod) Image Upload error before i've even tried to upload an image - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43256 summary (10Andre Klapper) [10:31:44] 03(mod) Mail notifications from ro.wp do not contain [[MediaWiki:Enotif body intro changed]] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43259 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [10:31:45] 03(mod) Raw $PAGEINTRO in email notifications - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42752 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [10:35:19] 03(mod) Image folder doesn't work unless chmod 777 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43252 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [10:38:29] 03(mod) Configure Memcached on dev, test and jenkins - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42570 (10silke.meyer) [10:38:32] 03(mod) Database error in CategoryTree::renderParents due to missing column. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43253 (10Andre Klapper) [10:42:00] 03(mod) [statements-ui] remove/disable the value inputfield when the property inputfield gets cleared - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42998 +comment (10Henning (WMDE)) [10:49:29] 03(mod) After password reset user should get at least one extra chance to log in with the new password - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30072 +comment (10Jarry1250) [10:52:09] New review: Spage; "Question for Matt about jQuery comma-separated selector behavior." [mediawiki/extensions/GettingStarted] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39360 [11:00:29] New patchset: Hashar; "Adding GettingStarted" [mediawiki/extensions] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39362 [11:00:42] Change merged: Hashar; [mediawiki/extensions] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39362 [11:01:00] New patchset: J; "Add support for audio derivatives" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39363 [11:06:51] 03(NEW) search suggestions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43261 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; () [11:08:52] New patchset: Hashar; "Actually add GettingStarted" [mediawiki/extensions] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39364 [11:09:43] Change merged: Hashar; [mediawiki/extensions] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39364 [11:12:21] New patchset: Amire80; "Begin to fix lang and dir attributes" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39365 [11:22:11] 03(mod) System for creating links to entities within JavaScript - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43003 (10tobias.gritschacher) [11:23:34] 03(mod) [statements-ui] create links to Claim properties - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43206 (10tobias.gritschacher) [11:24:02] 03(mod) failure to store Article with "" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33059 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [11:24:03] 03(mod) bug highlighting DOS batch file code - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33303 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [11:24:05] 03(mod) lisp syntax highlighting is too light - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35361 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [11:24:07] 03(mod) In Language VB are some Keywords missing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/21447 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [11:24:08] 03(mod) Comments for SAS do not display correctly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24242 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [11:24:08] 03(mod) Add "wikitext" as language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27828 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [11:24:28] 03(mod) missing translation for error message on Special:AdvancedTranslate - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/21924 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [11:25:00] 03(mod) Special:GettingStarted grey text less readable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43182 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [11:26:29] 03(mod) Date, time, and language preferences in the CheckUser log - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/7879 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [11:28:16] 03(mod) Extension does not work properly when used in [[MediaWiki:Sitenotice]] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/7590 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [11:28:32] 03(mod) Change the - char from 'ndash' to 'minus' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/10891 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [11:28:55] 03(mod) Update call of User::getGroupMember in Special:GlobalUsers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31615 normal->minor; +comment (10Andre Klapper) [11:29:18] 03(mod) Local revision-deleted block summaries appearing at Special:CentralAuth - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35971 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [11:31:54] 03(mod) OTRS searches take a very long time - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/15210 (10Andre Klapper) [11:32:48] 03(mod) CategoryTree does not work properly when used in [[MediaWiki:Sitenotice]] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/7590 summary (10Daniel Kinzler) [11:33:27] 03(mod) CategoryTree does not work properly when used in [[MediaWiki:Sitenotice]] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/7590 normal->15enhancement (10Daniel Kinzler) [11:33:48] 03(mod) Allow for group admins to create project repositories inside a parent project - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36937 minor->15enhancement; +comment (10Andre Klapper) [11:34:31] 03(mod) Tell git on gerrit.wikimedia.org not to generate spurious terminal sequences - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35462 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [11:34:31] 03(mod) On Gerrit's Review screen, change text "Cover Message" to "Comment" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35593 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [11:38:58] New patchset: VitaliyFilippov; "Add a dependency on mediawiki.legacy.wikibits." [mediawiki/extensions/Drafts] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39369 [11:38:58] New patchset: VitaliyFilippov; "Fix a bug: drafts didn't show up when creating new pages" [mediawiki/extensions/Drafts] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25629 [11:38:58] New patchset: VitaliyFilippov; "Always display user's drafts on the edit form." [mediawiki/extensions/Drafts] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25628 [11:38:59] New patchset: VitaliyFilippov; "Fix for PHP 5.4: add & to function prototype" [mediawiki/extensions/Drafts] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25627 [11:41:19] New patchset: Spage; "Most of new event logging." [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39370 [11:47:16] New patchset: Spage; "Don't leak e3 and murmur3 into global scope." [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/38819 [11:49:13] New review: Ori.livneh; "Looks good to me aside from a couple of small nits." [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39370 [11:49:43] New review: Spage; "Patch 2 is just whitespace fix." [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/38819 [11:49:43] Change merged: Spage; [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/38819 [11:53:30] New patchset: Spage; "Retire unused murmur3 hash function" [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39371 [11:54:03] 03(mod) Error rendering SVG to png - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42328 +comment (10Nicolas Brouard) [11:55:35] 03(mod) [statements-ui] Set up a sensible focus flow - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43074 (10Henning (WMDE)) [11:56:00] New patchset: Jarry1250; "Bugfix missing backslash, private->public function, &misc" [mediawiki/extensions/TranslateSvg] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39372 [11:56:24] Change merged: Jarry1250; [mediawiki/extensions/TranslateSvg] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39372 [11:58:23] 03(mod) Include logged action from abusefilter into CheckUser report - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29583 (10Legoktm) [11:58:54] 03(mod) Include logged action from abusefilter into CheckUser report - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29583 (10Snowolf) [12:07:07] New patchset: Hashar; "basic script to sync extensions from Gerrit" [mediawiki/extensions] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39373 [12:08:58] New patchset: Hashar; "Add several missing extensions" [mediawiki/extensions] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39374 [12:09:19] Change merged: Ori.livneh; [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39371 [12:09:43] New patchset: Hashar; "basic script to sync extensions from Gerrit" [mediawiki/extensions] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39373 [12:10:05] New review: Hashar; "PS2: make the script executable." [mediawiki/extensions] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39373 [12:14:43] 03(mod) After password reset user should get at least one extra chance to log in with the new password - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30072 +comment (10James Alexander) [12:15:10] 03(NEW) blockquotes indented improperly when wrapped around an image. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43262 minor; MediaWiki: Parser; () [12:17:48] 03(mod) [statements-ui] remove/disable the value inputfield when the property inputfield gets cleared - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42998 (10tobias.gritschacher) [12:18:16] 03(mod) blockquotes indented improperly when wrapped around an image. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43262 (10darkonc) [12:19:06] 03(mod) [statements-ui] remove/disable the value inputfield when the property inputfield gets cleared - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42998 (10tobias.gritschacher) [12:23:33] 03(mod) [statements-ui] pressing enter doesn't trigger API call but retransform claim to non-edit mode - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43202 (10tobias.gritschacher) [12:27:34] 03(mod) On Gerrit's Review screen, change text "Cover Message" to "Comment" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35593 +comment (10Chad H.) [12:27:47] 03(mod) After password reset user should get at least one extra chance to log in with the new password - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30072 +comment (10Jarry1250) [12:34:16] New patchset: MaxSem; "solrupdate.php tweaks" [mediawiki/extensions/GeoData] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39377 [12:35:09] 03(NEW) [statements-ui] correct item labels, links to items & properties on page load/reaload - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43263 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; () [12:37:07] 03(mod) [statements-ui] create links to Claim properties - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43206 (10tobias.gritschacher) [12:37:43] 03(mod) [statements-ui] create links to Claim properties - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43206 (10tobias.gritschacher) [12:37:54] 03(mod) [statements-ui] items labels broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43068 (10tobias.gritschacher) [12:37:57] 03(mod) [statements-ui] create links to Claim properties - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43206 (10tobias.gritschacher) [12:37:58] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Suppress "Web link" section in link inspector suggestion list if a wiki page link already exists - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43063 (10tobias.gritschacher) [12:37:58] 03(mod) [statements-ui] items labels broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43068 (10tobias.gritschacher) [12:38:37] 03(mod) [statements-ui] items labels broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43068 (10tobias.gritschacher) [12:38:38] 03(mod) Special:BrowseData with SQL error browsing a category having filters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43260 +comment (10Andreas Plank) [12:38:39] 03(mod) [statements-ui] correct item labels, links to items & properties on page load/reaload - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43263 (10tobias.gritschacher) [12:39:14] 03(mod) [statements-ui] links to items broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43001 (10tobias.gritschacher) [12:39:14] 03(mod) [statements-ui] correct item labels, links to items & properties on page load/reaload - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43263 (10tobias.gritschacher) [12:44:34] 03(mod) PHP Deprecation: Assigning by reference ("=&") should be removed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41671 +comment (10Karun) [12:46:31] 03(mod) PHP Deprecation: Assigning by reference ("=&") should be removed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41671 (10Daniel Friesen) [12:51:34] 03(mod) After password reset user should get at least one extra chance to log in with the new password - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30072 (10Daniel Friesen) [12:52:19] 03(mod) PHP Deprecation: Assigning by reference ("=&") should be removed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41671 +comment (10Jarry1250) [12:53:46] 03(mod) PHP Deprecation: Assigning by reference ("=&") should be removed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41671 +comment (10Karun) [12:59:43] 03(mod) MyISAM warning even if you don't get to choose - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34430 +comment (10Karun) [13:01:23] 03(NEW) Handling of # URIs is broken in SMW - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43264 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; () [13:01:42] 03(mod) Make the "year" field default to the current year on histories - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41330 (10Karun) [13:03:12] 03(mod) PHP Deprecation: Assigning by reference ("=&") should be removed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41671 +comment (10Jarry1250) [13:03:35] 03(mod) Removing a statement from an item - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40954 (10Daniel Werner) [13:04:03] 03(mod) MyISAM warning even if you don't get to choose - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34430 (10Daniel Friesen) [13:04:49] 03(mod) PHP Deprecation: Assigning by reference ("=&") should be removed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41671 +comment (10Karun) [13:06:04] 03(mod) Special:Version can warn about '#' comments in .git/config - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39825 +comment (10Karun) [13:08:34] 03(mod) no connection between search terms '.nfo' and '.nfo file' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38241 (10Karun) [13:10:16] Hi. I'm wondering how do you delete wiki pages manually, like from the database? [13:12:33] therocketmaster: seems like a bad idea. deleting a page from the interface causes a lot of things to happen, e.g. logging the event, updating links tables, etc [13:12:42] why do you want to do this? [13:13:20] My host returns a 403 when i try to do it from the interface. [13:13:37] there's probably a maintenance script for that [13:14:08] I had an old page that goes against the current host's rules. [13:14:13] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:DeleteBatch.php should do ? [13:15:58] 03(mod) MyISAM warning even if you don't get to choose - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34430 +comment (10Chad H.) [13:16:51] Even better, i can use the DeleteBatch extension. [13:17:18] New patchset: Jarry1250; "Make the PNG thumbnail update live" [mediawiki/extensions/TranslateSvg] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39380 [13:20:29] marktraceur: I think you were nice enough to review some JavaScript for me before [13:21:45] They won't even let me delete it! [13:25:59] 03(mod) backport pep8 from Ubuntu Raring to Precise - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43209 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [13:26:15] So, i need to delete it manually. I really don't want my site shut down. [13:26:39] New patchset: Siebrand; "Remove support for StatusNet" [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39381 [13:26:55] They say "No porn!", and i want to comply. [13:30:53] 03(mod) page history shows unreviewed revisions, reversions in wrong order - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42296 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [13:31:05] 03(mod) page history shows unreviewed revisions, reversions in wrong order - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42296 (10Andre Klapper) [13:37:57] 03(mod) Male user icon appears even if user specified female gender - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41484 +easy; +comment (10Pavel Selitskas) [13:44:18] 03(mod) WMF wikis need consistent MySQL data types for page.page_title and image.img_name - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22883 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [13:47:41] 03(mod) Set logos on Lithuanian Wikisource and Lithuanian Wiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/11924 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [13:48:43] New patchset: Zfilipin; "Added link to Code Climate" [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39382 [13:48:59] 03(mod) Database error in CategoryTree::renderParents due to missing column. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43253 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [13:49:36] 03(mod) backport pep8 from Ubuntu Raring to Precise - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43209 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [13:51:39] New patchset: Matthias Mullie; "DataModel" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27981 [13:53:44] New patchset: Pginer; "CSS adjustments for translation suggestions" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39383 [13:54:18] 03(mod) backport pep8 from Ubuntu Raring to Precise - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43209 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [13:54:42] New review: Hashar; "recheck" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39050 [13:55:24] 03(mod) SQL query error in CategoryTree::renderParents - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43253 04CRIT->major; -schema-change -shell ; summary; +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [13:56:53] New review: Hashar; "recheck" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39050 [13:58:02] 03(mod) Geographic coordinates display format should be user option - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/9685 normal->15enhancement; +comment (10Andre Klapper) [13:59:09] how can I use indents/numbering and == level == [13:59:26] :== Title == will display == Title == [13:59:33] 03(mod) SQL query error in CategoryTree::renderParents - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43253 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [13:59:36] New patchset: Amire80; "Begin to fix lang and dir attributes" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39365 [13:59:39] == Title == [14:00:07] 03(mod) Install extension on all Wikimedia projects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/9396 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [14:00:15] New patchset: Reedy; "Bug 43253 - SQL query error in CategoryTree::renderParents" [mediawiki/extensions/CategoryTree] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39384 [14:00:16] non-sense: what are you trying to do? [14:01:05] I am trying to indent and make the title level 2 [14:01:22] 03(mod) Update PHPUnit from 3.6.x to 3.7.10 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42724 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [14:01:24] 03(mod) SQL query error in CategoryTree::renderParents - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43253 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [14:01:42] seems I can only choose one. indent or use == level == [14:01:52] New patchset: Hashar; "pass pep8 on zhtable python script" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39050 [14:01:54] 03(mod) Change $wgAutoconfirmAge and $wgAutoconfirmEdits on Chinese Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/8942 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [14:02:10] non-sense: I don't think that's very easy. You'd be best advised to wrap it in a div yourself. [14:02:18] (or change the root styling for h2s) [14:02:33] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39358 [14:02:44] hm, okay i will look into that [14:03:05] 03(mod) Block local description edits for Commons images - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/5995 normal->15enhancement; +comment (10Andre Klapper) [14:03:19] 03(mod) Update PHPUnit from 3.6.x to 3.7.10 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42724 (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [14:04:12] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39383 [14:05:16] 03(mod) Block local description edits for Commons images - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/5995 +comment (10Siebrand) [14:06:12] Jarry1250 do you have an example I can use? [14:06:19] I've never done div warpping [14:06:55] 03(mod) Cannot subst special page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/11697 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [14:07:31] non-sense: Well, are you trying to indent a whole block or just the heading? And all headings everywhere on the wiki in question or just one? [14:07:43] 03(mod) List dead external links on a special page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/7093 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [14:07:56] just the heading, only 1 specific. [14:08:07] but I think it may not be necessary [14:08:21] I used and Bolded it [14:08:28] then I could indent, and it looks decent [14:08:52] If it's a heading, it's better if you could use [14:09:10]

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[14:10:34] (Haven't tried that, mind) [14:10:49] h2 is the size? and 20px is 20 pixels from the left margin? [14:10:57] Change merged: Zfilipin; [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39220 [14:11:15] non-sense h2 defines it as a level 2 heading [14:11:29] And yes, 20px from the left. [14:11:36] You may need to play around with that [14:11:48] Depending on how far : indents on the wiki in question [14:11:49] yeah, its actually pretty close to what I want. [14:12:47] I assume margin-center: 0px would center it with a 0px offset. [14:13:04] but not so much. [14:14:39] 03(mod) Create dropdown box to use external search engines on Special:Search - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/10500 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [14:15:33] New patchset: Amire80; "Begin to fix lang and dir attributes" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39365 [14:15:57] 03(mod) Did you mean ...? Return most obvious result on top nontheless. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/17405 (10Andre Klapper) [14:16:50] 03(mod) Enable VisualEditor extension on test.wikipedia.org and test2.wikipedia.org for all namespaces; for NS0 and NS2 on mediawiki.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43018 +comment (10Željko Filipin) [14:17:10] 03(mod) Search User-Interface Inconsistency - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/21069 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [14:18:02] 03(mod) text of revisions in the archive table that were deleted before Wikipedia started using MediaWiki 1.5 is corrupt - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/19990 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [14:20:08] 03(mod) Multiple langlinks to same language cause database conflicts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24502 (10Andre Klapper) [14:21:05] 03(mod) Headline and button overlap if button text is long - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37498 normal->minor; summary (10Andre Klapper) [14:22:11] 03(mod) Toolbar UI does not wrap buttons properly for narrow screen width - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37392 summary (10Andre Klapper) [14:25:57] 03(mod) extending Narayam Marathi support in wiktionaries across all languages other than Marathi Wiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35790 normal->15enhancement; +comment (10Andre Klapper) [14:27:43] 03(mod) InstantCommons doesn't display DjVu on some installs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37764 -patch-need-review +patch-in-gerrit (10Andre Klapper) [14:38:33] 03(mod) allow people to CR -2 (do not submit) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37712 +comment (10Chad H.) [14:50:31] New patchset: Zfilipin; "Jenkins job template now has repository option again." [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39386 [14:58:42] hi everyone [14:58:51] is Ankur online? [14:58:59] Ankur Anand [15:00:26] hi, can somebody help me please? I have this page http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/User:Riidom/SelectingBasics and I want the "select boundary loop" part to appear under the menu-image and its short text.. a
isn't helping me here [15:01:22] riidom: use
above the "Select Boundary Loop" heading [15:02:13] riidom: or copy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Clear from en.wiki and use it, it does the same thing in the same way [15:03:02] Hi, I what to be notified on article changes. What's necessary to put into LocalSettings.php? [15:03:25] perfect, thanks MatmaRex :) [15:03:44] Specifically by email. [15:05:01] sed_: you can just use the watchlist? [15:05:07] or the RSS feed from recent changes [15:05:10] sed_ : Notified in what sense? [15:05:57] When ever an article in my watchlist changes I want to be informed. [15:06:11] 03(mod) Search for specific template field including an URL (e.g. author= in [[Commons:Template:Information]]) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37862 normal->15enhancement; summary (10Andre Klapper) [15:06:56] sed_: there is an option for that in your preferences. [15:07:04] unless you're using outdated MediaWiki [15:09:52] MatmaRex: I am running 1.15.5. Can you name this option. [15:10:27] 03(mod) Unable to resubmit an existing patchset - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40946 normal->minor (10Andre Klapper) [15:11:06] 03(mod) Please upload a video file to Wikimedia Commons 1.81 GB - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41823 +comment (10Jeanne Menjoulet) [15:11:43] 03(mod) Special pages that list includeonly links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/5178 normal->15enhancement; +comment (10Andre Klapper) [15:13:57] 03(mod) Configure Memcached on dev, test and jenkins - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42570 (10silke.meyer) [15:14:22] 03(mod) wbgetentities and wbsetsitelink return empty target URLs for site links. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42761 (10silke.meyer) [15:14:45] 03(mod) System for creating links to entities within JavaScript - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43003 (10silke.meyer) [15:15:06] 03(mod) make repository url path available via client wiki's API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41347 (10silke.meyer) [15:15:23] 03(mod) [entity-selector] nothing displayed in input field when selecting entity with empty label - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42999 (10silke.meyer) [15:15:31] 03(mod) Inconsistent rendering of redirect pages left behind moved files - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42597 (10Andre Klapper) [15:15:48] 03(mod) Referential integrity is broken when a file containing deleted revisions is moved - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40737 (10Andre Klapper) [15:15:52] 03(mod) [statements-ui] register RETURN & ESCAPE key events - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43005 (10silke.meyer) [15:16:14] 03(mod) [statements-ui] Set up a sensible focus flow - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43074 (10silke.meyer) [15:16:21] 03(mod) Special:BrowseData with SQL error browsing a category having filters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43260 +comment (10Yaron Koren) [15:16:34] 03(mod) [statements-ui] use proper revision ids in API requests - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43062 (10silke.meyer) [15:16:55] 03(mod) QUnit tests for DataValues fail (unless enabling wgResourceLoaderDebug) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41553 (10silke.meyer) [15:17:13] 03(mod) [statements-ui] remove/disable the value inputfield when the property inputfield gets cleared - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42998 (10silke.meyer) [15:17:16] 03(NEW) Disable https on www.en.wikipedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43265 normal; Wikimedia: SSL related; () [15:17:36] Sending email via mediawiki works already for me since I confirmed my email address. Only this notification thingy isn't obvious to me. [15:18:14] sed_: 1.15.5 is quite old [15:18:20] 1.20 is the latest version [15:19:08] sed_: 1.15 might not have this option; on 1.20, it's in "E-mail options" section in the "User profile" tab in preferences [15:19:24] 03(mod) Image moving should leave entry in the upload history - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/14059 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [15:20:38] New review: Nikerabbit; "Some whitespace issues noted, no complaints about the rest." [mediawiki/extensions/TranslateSvg] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39380 [15:20:55] ^ Nikerabbit: Noted, thanks for the review [15:21:15] 03(mod) New parameter for file size and or image dimensions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/19811 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [15:22:55] 03(mod) HipHop issues (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40926 (10Andre Klapper) [15:23:02] MatmaRex: hmm, thanks for the hint. My LocalSettings.php options are this http://dpaste.org/BWuZQ/ so far. [15:24:23] Change abandoned: Hashar; "I cant remember what that change was for, guess it is not going to do any harm to abandon. Feel free..." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14305 [15:26:54] 03(mod) Article Feedback Tool difficult to use for screen reader users do to use of non-standard form controls - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33081 +accessibility (10Andre Klapper) [15:27:13] 03(NEW) Test for the Apache configuration - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43266 enhancement; Wikimedia: Testing Infrastructure; () [15:27:52] 03(mod) tools broken 1.16.5 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39034 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [15:28:10] 03(mod) Test for the Apache configuration - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43266 (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [15:28:45] !upgrading | sed_ [15:28:45] sed_: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Upgrading [15:29:02] it should be an entirely painless process, just copy over the files and run the database updater [15:29:09] (unless you have a heavily customized skin) [15:29:35] 03(mod) Gerrit extensions repository: updates fail - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39270 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [15:30:05] Change abandoned: Hashar; "Feel free to add the guard :-)" [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/38280 [15:30:09] In the named section there is "Send me copies of e-mails I send to other users" and "Enable e-mail from other users". The latter is checked. [15:30:29] MatmaRex: so you figured out that it is not part of 1.15.5? [15:31:01] 03(mod) Creating new accounts causes database error on PostgreSQL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38925 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [15:31:06] sed_: on en.wikipedia i can also see "E-mail me when a page or file on my watchlist is changed" and "E-mail me when my user talk page is changed" [15:31:17] sed_: i'm not sure, but i think these were added somewhere around 1.18 or 1.19 [15:32:38] 03(mod) Wikimedia Labs instances and projects pagination is funky - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38917 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [15:32:48] Change merged: Demon; [mediawiki/extensions] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39374 [15:34:09] 03(mod) "https services" listed as unsupported at status.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39325 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [15:34:27] MatmaRex: many thanks. That was halpful. Thought I could get around updating since it is now an installation based on the debian distribution packages. [15:35:00] sed_: argh, the debian packages are broken and, as you just discovered, extremely outdated [15:35:22] debian maintainers seem to think they can do it all better :/ [15:35:26] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Debian/Ubuntu [15:35:26] 03(mod) Babel configuration for is.wiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39308 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [15:35:52] 03(mod) rl2.wmflabs.org: "hidden" doesn't work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39025 (10Andre Klapper) [15:35:55] 03(mod) rl2.wmflabs.org: RL executes the module before the i18n messages are available - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39027 (10Andre Klapper) [15:36:00] i think someone managed to talk some sense into them and got MW 1.19 into Wheezy [15:36:40] 03(mod) Reviewer autocompletion failing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39333 (10Andre Klapper) [15:39:32] Change abandoned: Hashar; "duplicate of update-extensions.sh" [mediawiki/extensions] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39373 [15:39:46] 03(mod) Add apparmor profiles for TMH media converters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40099 +patch-in-gerrit (10Andre Klapper) [15:40:00] 03(mod) Provide CSS class to define horizontal lists - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40062 normal->15enhancement (10Andre Klapper) [15:43:13] 03(mod) Kill section auto-numbering - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42059 normal->15enhancement (10Andre Klapper) [15:44:24] 03(mod) PHP Strict Standards: Static function 'getSoftwareLink' should not be abstract - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42267 (10Andre Klapper) [15:44:25] 03(mod) Code quality issues (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/700 (10Andre Klapper) [15:44:28] 03(mod) PHP Strict Standards: Static function 'singleton' should not be abstract - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42268 (10Andre Klapper) [15:44:31] 03(mod) Code quality issues (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/700 (10Andre Klapper) [15:45:51] New review: IAlex; "Wouldn't it make sense to merge the isSectionEditSupported() check from showHeader() here?" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/38689 [15:48:03] New patchset: IAlex; "Fixed description for async parameter in upload module" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39231 [15:48:56] New patchset: Amire80; "Whitespace" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39388 [15:49:15] New patchset: Amire80; "Begin to fix lang and dir attributes" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39365 [15:49:36] New review: Hashar; "recheck" [mediawiki/extensions/SVGEdit] (master); V: 0 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36754 [15:51:16] Change merged: IAlex; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39231 [15:51:29] Change merged: Santhosh; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39388 [15:54:08] New review: Hashar; "That worked fine for me with a clean install." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/38814 [15:54:44] 03(mod) Oversight button not working - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37550 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [15:55:00] 03(mod) Mail subject does not include page title - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37551 (10Andre Klapper) [15:56:44] New patchset: Hashar; "(bug 43184) bogus script path in Special:Version" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39153 [15:56:52] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/38814 [15:57:12] New review: Hashar; "Rephrased commit summary." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39153 [15:59:56] New patchset: IAlex; "Pass user to LogEventsList::getExcludeClause" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/38713 [16:00:32] Jarry1250: I hesitate to say yes :( I've been really busy [16:01:39] marktraceur: Oh, no problem, could you suggest someone who could review JavaScript instead? Krinkle's usually pretty busy. [16:02:09] Jarry1250: MatmaRex is pretty great! :) [16:02:20] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39153 [16:02:32] 03(mod) Bogus script path shown on "entry point urls" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43184 (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [16:03:18] marktraceur: Coolio. [16:03:21] * Jarry1250 waits. [16:04:26] New patchset: Nikerabbit; "New solr schema.xml" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39224 [16:05:17] Change merged: IAlex; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/38713 [16:05:37] New patchset: Nikerabbit; "New solr schema.xml" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39224 [16:09:51] marktraceur: Jarry1250: yes? [16:10:09] i can review just fine, but i don't have +2 rights anywhere [16:10:28] also, i'm trying to get my own changes reviewed :P [16:11:45] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/status:open+project:mediawiki/core+owner:matmarex,n,z ~ [16:12:23] New patchset: IAlex; "Follow-up I5f7f6da0 (cefb9ef): pass the User parameter to more LogEventsList::getExcludeClause() calls" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39389 [16:16:37] MatmaRex: The JavaScript component of https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/39380/ [16:18:29] (what Marktraceur said you might be able to have a look at) [16:19:43] Jarry1250: .keyup( function () { tsvgLoader.updateThumbnailDelayed( form ); } ); – Krinkl.e would kill you for not using more newlines :D [16:20:09] Well it's not his extension is it :P [16:24:10] Jarry1250: you prefer comments on gerrit or on irc? [16:24:34] MatmaRex: Gerrit please :) [16:27:42] Jarry1250: Once MatmaRex hits it a few times and +1s it, I'd be fine doing the final review. Sorry about the tiered thing. [16:28:20] Jarry1250: Actually, if you wanted to help MatmaRex get to +2 status on TranslateSvg, that might be ultimately very useful for everyone. [16:28:21] marktraceur: It's not a problem, just need someone to :) [16:28:45] Hmm? [16:29:20] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions/CategoryTree] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39384 [16:29:45] Jarry1250: okay, i'm on it. [16:30:05] marktraceur: i don't even know what this extension does D: [16:30:12] i'm just reading the code and commenting on what i see [16:30:28] MatmaRex: It translates SVGs :) one step closer! [16:30:51] * marktraceur will be back soon, commuting time [16:31:21] New patchset: Matthias Mullie; "DataModel" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27981 [16:32:10] New patchset: Amire80; "Begin to fix lang and dir attributes" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39365 [16:34:02] New patchset: Zfilipin; "Jenkins job template now can specify Git repository branch" [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39390 [16:34:30] New patchset: Matthias Mullie; "DataModel" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27981 [16:34:41] New patchset: Reedy; "Update CategoryTree to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf6) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39391 [16:35:04] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf6) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39391 [16:40:28] 03(mod) SQL query error in CategoryTree::renderParents - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43253 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [16:43:35] 03(mod) CentralNotice should not make requests to Special:RecordImpression from every page (even when there are no active campaigns) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43250 +comment (10Matt Walker) [16:44:01] 03(mod) CentralNotice should not make requests to Special:RecordImpression from every page (even when there are no active campaigns) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43250 (10Matt Walker) [16:44:32] New patchset: Zfilipin; "Fix for IE10 failure when opening edit page" [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39392 [16:45:26] 03(mod) old data returning from editing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38577 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [16:45:46] 03(mod) alternate change list row colors - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38114 (10Andre Klapper) [16:45:57] New patchset: Amire80; "Improve usage of which and that" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/38825 [16:47:37] New review: Matmarex; "JavaScript review. I didn't look at the rest of the code nor the form structure, so feel free to poi..." [mediawiki/extensions/TranslateSvg] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39380 [16:47:41] Jarry1250: ^ [16:47:44] Jarry1250: I didn't look at the rest of the code nor the form structure, so feel free to point out if I'm misguided. :) [16:48:41] (afk now) [16:49:01] what's the best way to report broken download-from-git links for extensions on mediawiki.org? [16:53:03] 03(mod) Code quality issues (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/700 (10Andre Klapper) [16:53:04] 03(mod) CategoryViewer has $from defined as String but is used later as array - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37195 (10Andre Klapper) [16:53:30] 03(mod) Implement locale-specific sorting for Polish language (patch included) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42412 (10Andre Klapper) [16:54:36] 03(mod) incategory:"xyz" search method for category intersections not unicode compatible - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42416 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [16:55:39] 03(mod) $wgUsersNotifiedOnAllChanges no longer notifies on all changes as the name implies - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40534 (10Andre Klapper) [16:55:45] 03(mod) Special:Export gives an invalid XML without warning upon fatals - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39639 (10Andre Klapper) [16:57:50] 03(mod) Edge of svg cut off at certain scaling resolutions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38668 normal->minor (10Andre Klapper) [17:03:31] 03(mod) $wgUsersNotifiedOnAllChanges no longer notifies on all changes as the name implies - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40534 +comment (10Michael Jennings) [17:03:36] 03(mod) action=raw should not output an HTML error page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37140 (10Andre Klapper) [17:04:18] 03(mod) When moving a file at Commons, the created redirect is not recognized (or file usage is not updated) in other wikis and the file is not shown in articles it is included in - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42582 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [17:04:21] 03(mod) Purge foreign pages using an image/media file where this data is available - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22390 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [17:06:25] 03(mod) SqlBagOStuff::set: 1637: Too many active concurrent transactions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37202 (10Andre Klapper) [17:06:58] 03(mod) Add db server sharding to SqlBagOStuff - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42463 (10Andre Klapper) [17:08:53] New patchset: Carlb; "bug 43220: Modify mw:extension:listings to look for mediawiki:listings-template as the name of a template to be used to format individual listings instead of using the built-in defaults." [mediawiki/extensions/Listings] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39394 [17:10:44] 03(mod) mw:extension:Listings needs to be able to override defaults for listing format and parameters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43220 +comment (10Carl Austin Bennett) [17:14:17] 03(mod) Random button doesn't maintain browser history in Chrome and Safari - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37224 summary; +comment (10Andre Klapper) [17:14:51] 03(mod) mw:extension:Listings needs to be able to override defaults for listing format and parameters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43220 -patch +patch-in-gerrit (10Carl Austin Bennett) [17:16:31] 03(mod) Disable https on www.en.wikipedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43265 +comment (10Krenair) [17:19:58] 03(mod) Disable https on www.en.wikipedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43265 (10Krenair) [17:21:47] 03(mod) Interwiki with same code as the site has create redlink instead of valid interwiki link as they used to - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37375 (10Andre Klapper) [17:22:16] 03(mod) Cite.php should allow for different styles of backlinks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37377 normal->15enhancement (10Andre Klapper) [17:23:28] 03(mod) the iframe with the Creative Commons license shows partial translations - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40372 +i18n (10Andre Klapper) [17:24:39] 03(mod) On Amazon with GD library installed: Installer fatal error in Parser::parse() line 558 due to Title.php's secureAndSplit() returning null - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38379 summary (10Andre Klapper) [17:25:05] 03(mod) Fatal error, undefined method "HistoryBlobStub::uncompress()" when running update.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37882 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [17:25:50] 03(mod) Sometimes labels under "Database type:" don't change the form like the corresponding radiobuttons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40967 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [17:26:03] New patchset: Nikerabbit; "Make sure translation memories are not polluted in tests" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39395 [17:26:28] 03(mod) importDump.php: Oracle DB error "quoted string not properly terminated" after several hours - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38793 (10Andre Klapper) [17:27:46] 03(mod) Fatal error when trying to mark certain edits as patrolled on en.wikt: "Call to a member function getText() on a non-object" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40481 summary; +comment (10Andre Klapper) [17:28:51] 03(mod) Edits before page moves are shown in unexpected places in the watchlist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41033 (10Andre Klapper) [17:29:40] 03(mod) adding automatically the sub-pages as new watchlist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40469 normal->15enhancement (10Andre Klapper) [17:30:38] 03(mod) Trying to add or remove a page to/from a watchlist in the edit mode doesn't do anything on en.wp - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35692 summary (10Andre Klapper) [17:32:15] 03(mod) Trouble removing pages with special characters from watchlist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24462 +i18n (10Andre Klapper) [17:32:21] 03(mod) move page will make watchlist useless - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40470 (10Andre Klapper) [17:33:34] 03(mod) Invalid value for HTML5 dir attribute ("auto") - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39912 summary (10Andre Klapper) [17:35:16] 03(mod) $wgUsersNotifiedOnAllChanges no longer notifies on all changes as the name implies, due to fix for bug 33880 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40534 summary (10Andre Klapper) [17:35:58] 03(mod) Show version of jQuery libraries in Special:Version - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38730 normal->minor (10Andre Klapper) [17:38:50] 03(mod) openZIM products - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43248 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [17:40:15] New review: Aaron Schulz; "TODO comments can be added later, but it definitely is not good abstraction for this class to be con..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37233 [17:44:16] 03(mod) Random button doesn't maintain browser history in Chrome and Safari - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37224 +comment (10Jon) [17:44:46] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/38688 [17:44:53] 03(mod) Random button doesn't maintain browser history on desktop site in Chrome and Safari - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37224 summary (10Jon) [17:45:53] 03(mod) MobileFrontend alpha settings don't allow going straight back to regular mode - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43243 +comment (10Jon) [17:46:51] 03(mod) MobileFrontend alpha settings don't allow going straight back to regular mode - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43243 +comment (10Jon) [17:47:32] New patchset: MaxSem; "solrupdate.php tweaks" [mediawiki/extensions/GeoData] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39377 [17:54:51] New patchset: Matthias Mullie; "DataModel" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27981 [17:55:27] 03(mod) Please upload a video file to Wikimedia Commons 1.81 GB - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41823 +comment (10Krenair) [17:56:13] 03(mod) Editing sometimes sends user to desktop site - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42705 +comment (10Arthur Richards) [17:58:43] New review: Aaron Schulz; "Why? Surely we can't have that global like that for everything, and just setting a global before a s..." [mediawiki/extensions/ConfirmEdit] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39329 [17:58:49] main: Wow, nice nick. [18:05:50] New patchset: Matthias Mullie; "Refactor AFT backend" [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24264 [18:11:25] New patchset: Matthias Mullie; "Refactor AFT backend" [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24264 [18:19:11] 03(mod) Languages broken on dynamically loaded pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42962 (10Jon) [18:20:06] 03(mod) Non-static table fail - table module should not transform tables with forms inside them - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42793 +comment (10Jon) [18:21:14] 03(NEW) Special:MobileDiff: Call to a member function getPrevious() on a non-object - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43267 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend (Beta); () [18:22:24] 03(mod) Get rid of HTML messages in MobileFrontend - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36109 +comment (10Jon) [18:31:12] 03(mod) Mobile site clips edges of large tables - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36936 +comment (10Jon) [18:32:04] 03(mod) MobileFrontend extension should validate against W3C in Jenkins - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31876 (10Jon) [18:32:45] 03(mod) Support language variants (different language interfaces - same wikipedia) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/21806 (10Jon) [18:33:02] New patchset: Mwalker; "Fixing Logic Bomb in the Amazon Audit Script" [wikimedia/fundraising/tools] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39400 [18:33:50] 03(mod) Dynamic fonts support in mobile frontend extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28515 +comment (10Jon) [18:35:24] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/38810 [18:35:36] New review: Umherirrender; "Thanks for the extra patch" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39389 [18:36:15] 03(mod) Tooltip broken on outdent button - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43258 +comment (10Rob Moen) [18:38:34] 03(mod) Special:UserLogin broken in MobileFrontend - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40318 +comment (10Jon) [18:39:29] Change merged: Adamw; [wikimedia/fundraising/tools] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39400 [18:40:56] New patchset: Amire80; "Cleanup of error handling in saving messages" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39401 [18:41:24] 03(NEW) Greyscale Jpg Thumbnails do not get sharpened - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43268 enhancement; MediaWiki: File management; () [18:43:23] 03(mod) Wikimedia Labs instances and projects pagination is funky - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38917 +comment (10Ryan Lane) [18:43:26] 03(mod) MobileFrontend extension should validate against W3C in Jenkins - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31876 +comment (10Juliusz Gonera) [18:45:07] 03(mod) Special:UserLogin broken in MobileFrontend - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40318 +comment (10Steven Walling) [18:51:45] Hi guys! quick question here [18:52:14] 03(mod) Image Upload error before i've even tried to upload an image - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43256 +comment (10Jon) [18:52:23] What is it? [18:52:26] When using importImages.php I need to specify the directory that contains the images themselves. Is there anyway I can specify a parent folder and the script will check all subfolders for images? [18:52:48] Unfotunately it doesn't appear to support that. [18:52:53] Sanjay_: You could probably hack up some bash script to do that, though [18:52:56] Subdirectories. [18:53:09] yeah, thats what I was thinking. I could make my own script [18:53:14] i guess [18:53:16] Yeah. [18:53:34] Could modify the script to do that, too. [18:53:58] Sanjay_: Alternatively, you could change the PHP script to do it, and submit a patch to us, and be revered for all time as the person who enabled subdirectory imports :) [18:54:12] * marktraceur sings the Free Software heroes' theme song [18:54:33] I'm not too experienced with php though..or bash. I can try though :D [18:55:02] Sanjay_: Well, whatever you come up with will almost surely be useful, so at least be sure to put it somewhere public :) [18:55:21] * marktraceur faintly remembers this question happening before [18:56:08] it would makes things a lot easier haha [18:56:26] and it seems pretty simple to implement too.. [18:56:47] 03(NEW) memcached keys too long - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43269 normal; MediaWiki extensions: ShortUrl; () [18:58:14] 03(mod) Greyscale Jpg Thumbnails do not get sharpened - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43268 (10Andre Klapper) [19:00:01] 03(mod) memcached keys too long - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43269 +comment (10Niklas Laxström) [19:00:43] 03(mod) memcached keys too long - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43269 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [19:02:09] Sanjay_: Are you doing this atm? If not I can probably have a go... looks rather trivial [19:02:30] hoo, I'm trying to do it now..i have little to no experinece with php though [19:02:37] could def use some help [19:03:05] Sanjay_: Do you have developer access? [19:03:14] on my machine? yes [19:03:20] 03(NEW) Add wgPostEdit are core JavaScript variable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43270 enhancement; MediaWiki: JavaScript; () [19:03:26] To MediaWiki [19:03:30] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Tooltip broken on outdent button - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43258 summary (10James Forrester) [19:04:00] Sanjay_: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developer_access that one ;) [19:04:13] 03(mod) Special:GettingStarted grey text less readable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43182 +comment (10Steven Walling) [19:04:22] New review: Krinkle; "The implementation has become more complex with half a dozen different kinds (or prefixes). Letting ..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37503 [19:05:09] definelty not that developer access [19:05:11] :( [19:05:34] hoo: No need to request it, he can just sign up at labs now [19:06:03] 03(mod) api of mobile view outputs section headers with HTML differently then normal view - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41546 +comment (10Jon) [19:06:25] 03(mod) Add wgPostEdit are core JavaScript variable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43270 (10Matthew Flaschen) [19:06:38] 03(mod) memcached keys too long - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43269 +comment (10Yuvi Panda) [19:06:52] 03(mod) Add wgPostEdit as core JavaScript variable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43270 summary (10Matthew Flaschen) [19:08:11] 03(mod) Tag edits made through Special:GettingStarted - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43191 (10Steven Walling) [19:08:57] 03(mod) Disable https on www.en.wikipedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43265 normal->minor (10Andre Klapper) [19:10:13] 03(mod) Add wgPostEdit as core JavaScript variable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43270 +comment (10Matthew Flaschen) [19:10:35] 03(mod) memcached keys too long - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43269 +comment (10Ori Livneh) [19:11:30] 03(mod) Dynamic fonts support in mobile frontend extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28515 +comment (10Brion Vibber) [19:11:31] the keys are too damned long [19:12:21] New patchset: Mattflaschen; "Depend on postEdit for wgPostEdit, pending bug 43270." [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39404 [19:12:47] hi guillom , whenever you have time your feedback about https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Social_media & discussion page is welcome. [19:13:03] guillom, it would be nice to sync with you and in fact have you there :) [19:13:08] Change merged: Ori.livneh; [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39404 [19:14:06] qgil: looking now [19:15:33] qgil: What do you mean by "have me there"? [19:16:11] New review: Tychay; "Hmm, this could have been done easier without adding merge() to the base BagOfStuff class and instea..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25879 [19:16:17] guillom, the answer is variable, depending on your interest in MediaWiki & social media :) [19:16:26] guillom, you are already doing some of it [19:17:11] qgil: I only do wikimedia engineering-related social media, I don't do mediawiki-only stuff. But I'm happy to help if I can. [19:17:33] ... which reminds me that yous signature at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Groups/Proposals/Marketing is welcome too O:-) [19:18:22] @MediaWiki is not mediawiki-(core?)-only... [19:19:24] New patchset: Legoktm; "(bug 28362) add article_views variable" [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/38731 [19:19:34] guillom, "wikimedia engineering-related" also belongs to @MediaWiki in the broad sense [19:19:42] New review: Legoktm; "I couldn't really come up with a good place to insert the variable if the setting was enabled. Is th..." [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/38731 [19:20:19] qgil: well, no, MediaWiki != Wikimedia engineering. There is some overlap, but not all WM engineering is MediaWiki, and vice versa [19:20:59] As for the Marketing group, I may sign later when the group exists and I can see where I could help, but for now I'm not sure. [19:21:40] guillom, yes I know the theory. It's just difficult to explain to people out there. At the end a big chunk of our work happens at mediawiki.org - anyway it's "just" a branding discussion. [19:22:33] guillom, Marketing group ok but if we don't get more signatures we won't have group. Have you read the charter proposed? It also includes a nice % of the work you alrady do [19:22:35] qgil: It's difficult to explain, but we should try anyway. For the same reason that we say we're the Wikimedia Foundation even if it's difficult to explain to people why it's Wikimedia and not Wikipedia :) [19:22:58] guillom, actually I don [19:23:20] t see why we ave to explain why we are not "the MediaWiki community" when actually we are [19:23:29] define "we" :) [19:23:40] the MediaWiki community :) [19:23:50] mediawiki.org [19:24:06] I don't disagree with that. [19:24:09] whoever works on something related with that logo with a sunflower and brackets [19:25:21] qgil: where do we disagree, then? [19:26:04] guillom, in the insistence to separate "MediaWiki" from "Wikimedia tech" instead of seeing them as part of something common [19:27:10] qgil: Well, there are clearly Wikimedia tech activities that aren't MediaWiki-related, and MediaWiki activities that aren't Wikimedia tech-related, don't you agree? [19:27:57] guillom, sure but the common denominator is bigger, and there fore the basic definition should be based on the common denominator and not in the extremes that don't touch [19:28:56] guillom, even https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/ has a sunflower between brackets [19:29:39] "MediaWiki: the software that powers Wikipedia, its sister sites, and hundreds/thousands of other third-party websites." "Wikimedia Engineering: The department of the Wikimedia Foundation working on maintaining and improving the hardware and software infrastructure of Wikipedia and its sister sites" [19:30:13] Maybe it would help to discuss a specific example here? [19:30:40] New patchset: Hoo man; "Add an option to importImages to search subdirectories recursively" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39405 [19:30:48] guillom, sure, in the world of separations where does de Visual Editor team fit?> [19:31:24] qgil: I don't understand your question. Can you be more specific? [19:32:11] Nikerabbit: what is the point of lock() in MessageCache? [19:32:19] the return value is not checked [19:32:54] guillom, ok, a better example is the beginning of the conversation: yourself. :) Is your work related only to "maintaining and improving the hardware and software infrastructure of Wikipedia and its sister sites" or also to " the software that powers Wikipedia, its sister sites, and hundreds/thousands of other third-party websites"? [19:33:44] qgil: the former, and the latter only insofar as it relates to the former. [19:35:11] guillom, http://blog.wikimedia.org/c/technology/ looks like "the former, and the latter only insofar as it relates to the former" is more a norm than an exception... [19:36:03] guillom, the fact is that the overlap between both areas is big - and this is good! [19:36:36] https://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/gerrit_manual_trigger/ Does this still work? [19:37:02] qgil: that link leads to posts related to work done by Wikimedia engineering staff, so I don't see your point [19:37:23] I'm not trying to be obtuse here, I just don't understand your argument [19:37:29] hoo: I sure hope so--do you have reason to believe otherwise? [19:37:57] New review: Matmarex; "Two comments and a patchset with fixups because I am personally interested in getting this merged." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37395 [19:38:15] marktraceur: At least retriggering didn't work the last few times I tried [19:38:22] * marktraceur will look [19:38:24] awjr: can you cr https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/38742/2 ? [19:38:34] marktraceur: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39405 [19:38:37] AaronSchulz: lookin [19:38:46] hoo: i think you can just make a review with "recheck" in it to get jenkins to rerun the tests [19:38:53] at least this worked for me the last time [19:39:00] AaronSchulz: i can try to review it later this afternoon [19:39:01] New patchset: Matmarex; "Allow preferences that need not be rendered in Special:Preferences" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37395 [19:39:05] guillom, is there a place where we can see the work you are doing regularly? All what I can see has a mix of "MediaWiki" and "Wikimedia tech". Same fr the role described at https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Job_openings/Technical_Communications_Manager [19:39:06] New review: Hoo man; "recheck" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39405 [19:39:20] AaronSchulz: if it's urgent, you should find someone else as i'm about to run to a mtg [19:39:34] qgil: my weekly activity reports, on the office wiki [19:39:42] hoo: Looks like that did something [19:39:46] You can't miss them, it's the only activity there is in the Report: namespace there. [19:40:06] AaronSchulz: not my code, but I guess it tries to avoid concurrent updates [19:40:14] yes :) [19:40:30] New patchset: Matmarex; "Allow preferences that need not be rendered in Special:Preferences" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37395 [19:41:08] New review: Matmarex; "Whoops, everybody loves `git commit -a`. Please disregard PS7. :)" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37395 [19:41:12] guillom, for instance: you prepare the https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:Wikimedia_engineering_reports - which contains a mix of both [19:42:06] qgil: no, those reports are exclusively about Wikimedia engineering. We don't include there stuff done by volunteers that doesn't relate to Wikimedia sites. [19:42:15] guillom, "Communications support for engineering staff" also has both components. You helped reviewing blog posts of mine that ad both components [19:42:58] guillom, it turns out that "Wikimedia engineering" also works on "the software that powers Wikipedia, its sister sites, and hundreds/thousands of other third-party websites." aka "MediaWiki" [19:42:59] qgil: but... you're part of the engineering staff, which makes supporting your work Wikimedia-related [19:43:08] qgil: of course. [19:43:29] guillom, the division "MediaWiki" = volunters, "Wikimedia tech" professionals hired by WMF" leads nowhere [19:43:41] guillom, definitely not in terms of defining an open source community [19:43:48] qgil: no strawmen, please. I never said that. [19:44:19] No strawmen, just trying to understand you guillom [19:45:13] Change merged: Demon; [wikimedia/bugzilla/modifications] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37376 [19:45:27] "We don't include there stuff done by volunteers that doesn't relate to Wikimedia sites." If a volunteer is contributing to Visual Editor (my previous example) that is "Wikimedia tech" work and also "MediaWiki" work, since it's an extension that anybody else can use [19:45:54] anyway, IRC just goes so far for discussions like this :) [19:45:57] Change merged: Demon; [mediawiki/tools/mwdumper] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33092 [19:46:14] this is more of a dinner & beers discussion [19:46:18] New review: Parent5446; "I'm still not sure why API preferences have absolutely no validation. Just because it's not shown on..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37395 [19:46:20] but an important one [19:46:35] qgil: I still don't see the problem we're trying to solve, but ok [19:46:39] No beer for me, though [19:46:53] I'll let you buy me grapefruit juice :) [19:46:59] Change merged: Parent5446; [mediawiki/extensions/SecureSessions] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37115 [19:47:17] New review: Matmarex; "I guess they're supposed to be validated when they're accessed by the user-side code that reads and ..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37395 [19:47:46] conclusion: @mediawiki social channels will distribute news about "MediaWiki" and "Wikimedia tech", because for the outside world they are equally interesting and part of the things being cooked at mediawiki.org for Wikipedia et al [19:48:06] and even for insiders like us it is not easy to split [19:48:09] 03(mod) Separate out externals so we can collaborate with the community - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43226 +comment (10Matthew Flaschen) [19:48:16] New review: Parent5446; "So, in other words, we're accepting that client-side validation is good enough and that server-side ..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37395 [19:49:04] guillom, grapefruit works as well! :) [19:49:07] 03(NEW) #content_0 missing on small pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43271 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend (Beta); () [19:49:21] 03(mod) #content_0 missing on small pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43271 (10Jon) [19:50:02] New review: Tpt; "Minor change that had a review." [mediawiki/extensions/ProofreadPage] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/38748 [19:50:02] Change merged: Tpt; [mediawiki/extensions/ProofreadPage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/38748 [19:50:56] guillom, last comment about this (sorry). The problem is real: I started saying whether you want to be involved in https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Social_media , you said you focused on Wikimedia tech and not MediaWiki, then I'm saying that @MediaWiki will also include Wikimedia tech because they are part of the same community... It's not an abstract discussion [19:51:01] 03(mod) Include logged action from abusefilter into CheckUser report - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29583 +comment (10Legoktm) [19:51:23] 03(mod) Disable https on www.en.wikipedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43265 +comment (10Chris Steipp) [19:52:32] qgil: If I wanted to nitpick, I'd argue that MediaWiki-related "Wikimedia tech" stuff should be twitted from a Wikimedia-tech account and retweeted from @MediaWiki (the same way that Wikimedia stuff is tweeted from @Wikimedia and retweeted by @Wikipedia, instead of just sent from @wikipedia), but I won't argue this because 1. There isn't a Wikimedia-tech account, 2. It doesn't really matter much in the end anyway considering the limited audience. [19:52:36] hi [19:52:46] lbenedix: Hi! [19:53:04] can someone tell me, if jquery UI is delivered with a standard mediawiki-installation? [19:53:19] i know that jquery is 'built in' [19:53:25] guillom, understood your point :) [19:53:30] New review: Matmarex; "Client-side validation is good enough, assuming that it treats the contents of these prefs as user-c..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37395 [19:53:40] qgil: see, progress! :) [19:54:32] is Tyler Romeo on IRC? what's his nick? [19:55:30] MatmaRex, tylerromeo [19:56:07] alright, so he's not here. thanks Platonides [19:57:22] it's odd, I thought it was that one (or something very similar) [19:57:28] but I don't see it on my logs [19:59:03] on gerrit he is Parent5446, but this nick's not here as well [20:01:43] $statusKey = wfMemcKey( 'messages', $code, 'status' ) [20:01:52] ok that code looks like nonsense [20:02:38] 03(mod) #time parser function can't read local language month names - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/19412 -tracking ; summary; +comment (10Robin Pepermans (SPQRobin)) [20:02:41] 03(mod) Tracking bug (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/2007 (10Robin Pepermans (SPQRobin)) [20:03:12] 03(mod) Add support for non-Arabic number systems - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34193 -tracking ; summary; +comment (10Robin Pepermans (SPQRobin)) [20:03:15] 03(mod) Tracking bug (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/2007 (10Robin Pepermans (SPQRobin)) [20:10:37] 03(mod) MathJax not detecting MathPlayer IE plugin (and derivatives) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42808 +comment (10Peter Krautzberger) [20:13:04] New review: VitaliyFilippov; "Answered inline." [mediawiki/extensions/Drafts] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25627 [20:16:14] 03(mod) Bogus script path shown on "entry point urls" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43184 -patch-in-gerrit (10Krinkle) [20:17:16] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34843 anyone? [20:17:30] 03(mod) [GeoCrumbs] Crumbs are shown even on project/special pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42946 +patch-in-gerrit +patch-need-review (10Carl Austin Bennett) [20:20:04] 03(mod) Wikivoyage: interwiki links require a cleanup/automatic replacement - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41986 +comment (10Carl Austin Bennett) [20:21:03] 03(mod) Spamming continuing on beta wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39446 +comment (10Jasper Deng) [20:21:20] 03(mod) When moving a file at Commons, the created redirect is not recognized (or file usage is not updated) in other wikis and the file is not shown in articles it is included in - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42582 (10Trijnstel) [20:21:29] 03(mod) Purge foreign pages using an image/media file where this data is available - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22390 (10Trijnstel) [20:23:20] New review: CSteipp; "Looks good, and working in my test too to both fix the bug and enforce permissions. I'll go ahead an..." [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37346 [20:23:20] Change merged: CSteipp; [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37346 [20:24:26] 03(mod) Query multiple filter logs at the same time in the API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42802 +comment (10Marius Hoch) [20:29:02] New patchset: Demon; "Rolling ParserFunctions back to d96a17c" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf6) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39490 [20:29:21] Change merged: Demon; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf6) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39490 [20:31:34] New patchset: Bsitu; "Temporarily bypass job queue for notification" [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39491 [20:33:58] 03(NEW) Edit protection options in English are confusing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43272 normal; MediaWiki: Internationalization; () [20:37:00] New patchset: Ori.livneh; "(Bug 43272) Clearer protect level messages for EN" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39492 [20:37:14] New patchset: Bsitu; "Temporarily bypass job queue for notification" [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39491 [20:37:15] 03(mod) Edit protection options in English are confusing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43272 +comment (10Platonides) [20:37:41] 03(mod) Disable https on www.en.wikipedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43265 +comment (10Platonides) [20:37:47] Change merged: Kaldari; [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39491 [20:40:05] 03(mod) Special:BrowseData with SQL error browsing a category having filters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43260 +comment (10Andreas Plank) [20:42:12] 03(mod) Please restrict anonymous users from creating new pages at sw.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42894 +comment (10kipala) [20:43:39] 03(mod) Edit protection options in English are confusing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43272 (10Legoktm) [20:48:44] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Deleting content between a heading and an alien fails? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43135 +comment (10Roan Kattouw) [20:49:07] 03(mod) Edit protection options in English are confusing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43272 +comment (10Nemo) [20:49:22] New patchset: Alex Monk; "(bug 14862) WIP - Basic code behind global user renaming" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralAuth] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39171 [20:49:34] 03(mod) Edit protection options in English are confusing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43272 normal->15enhancement (10Nemo) [20:51:02] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "[MessageCache] Cleaned message cache load() error handling." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39493 [20:52:18] verbs[] = 'food'; [20:56:19] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Deleting content between a heading and an alien fails? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43135 +comment (10Mark Holmquist) [21:04:11] New patchset: Alex Monk; "(bug 20850) Add global_user_groups variable to AbuseFilter" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralAuth] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/38895 [21:06:45] 03(mod) Implement Gadgets 2.0 (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29272 (10mybugs.mail) [21:08:45] 03(NEW) Feedback post-edit for it.wikivoyage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43273 normal; MediaWiki extensions: PostEdit; () [21:10:25] New patchset: Mattflaschen; "Revert "Retire unused murmur3 hash function"" [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39494 [21:11:12] 03(mod) Feedback post-edit for it.wikivoyage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43273 (10Emanuele Raoli) [21:11:45] 03(mod) Please restrict anonymous users from creating new pages at sw.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42894 +comment (10Dereckson) [21:12:52] 03(mod) Feedback post-edit for it.wikivoyage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43273 +comment (10Ori Livneh) [21:16:06] Krenair: have you analyzed the possible race conditions when doing global renaming? [21:16:47] vvv, I'm not really sure what could go wrong with things like that... [21:17:13] 03(mod) openZIM products - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43248 +comment (10Kelson [Emmanuel Engelhart]) [21:17:50] situations like two people trying to do the same rename at the same time or something? [21:18:55] Krenair: situation when suddenly the username appears in the middle of renaming on one of local wikis [21:20:05] So a rename is in progress from one username to another, and in the middle of the process someone creates that new username on an affected wiki which hasn't dealt with the rename yet? [21:22:33] 03(NEW) Wikilove for it.wikivoyage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43274 normal; Wikimedia: Extension setup; () [21:23:59] 03(mod) Wikilove for it.wikivoyage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43274 (10Emanuele Raoli) [21:24:40] vvv, like that? ^ [21:24:55] Something like that, yes [21:27:02] 03(mod) Wikilove for it.wikivoyage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43274 normal->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [21:27:06] New patchset: Mattflaschen; "Use new separate submodule instead of coping third-party library." [mediawiki/extensions/GuidedTour] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39496 [21:28:19] spicydear...nice captcha [21:29:20] New review: Alex Monk; "As vvv pointed out in #mediawiki, there's possibly race condition bugs here:" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralAuth] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39171 [21:29:54] 03(mod) Separate out externals so we can collaborate with the community - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43226 +comment (10Matthew Flaschen) [21:31:47] 03(mod) Please restrict anonymous users from creating new pages at sw.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42894 +comment (10kipala) [21:33:38] 03(mod) ConfirmEdit: readdir() expects parameter 1 to be resource, boolean given - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40841 +comment (10Aaron Schulz) [21:35:41] 03(mod) Cancel Button saves text, Publish Button does nothing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42198 +comment (10Tara Athan) [21:36:37] huh, I'd been wondering about those buttons [21:43:29] Hmm - The bug I thought I had fixed is back [21:43:32] http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Page:Railways_Act_1921_%28ukpga_19210055_en%29.pdf/24 [21:44:14] I hope the next version of the parser REQUIRES explicit paragraph breaks because trying to recall when to put line spacing in is getting insane [21:45:26] New patchset: Mattflaschen; "Use new separate submodule instead of coping third-party library." [mediawiki/extensions/GuidedTour] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39496 [21:46:00] gwicke: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2174/2268237733_cda4a1dbb3.jpg?v=0 [21:46:30] hehe! [21:46:37] 03(mod) Wikilove for it.wikivoyage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43274 +shell (10Emanuele Raoli) [21:46:45] AaronSchulz: where did you get that from? [21:46:51] http://www.johnmwillis.com/other/top-10-worst-captchas/ [21:48:20] AaronSchulz: that is a good laugh ;) [21:49:27] New review: Mattflaschen; "You might be able to get away with not marking editpage, but I agree with Nikerabbit. You should ch..." [mediawiki/extensions/Drafts] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25627 [21:51:57] 03(mod) Implement Gadgets 2.0 (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29272 (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [21:52:51] 03(mod) Please restrict anonymous users from creating new pages at sw.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42894 +comment (10Dereckson) [21:58:33] 03(mod) Make it possible to rename users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40061 (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [22:02:52] 03(mod) Make it possible to rename users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40061 (10Željko Filipin) [22:04:02] 03(mod) Wikilove for it.wikivoyage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43274 +comment (10Dereckson) [22:06:01] 03(mod) Wikilove for it.wikivoyage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43274 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [22:08:12] 03(mod) Wikilove for it.wikivoyage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43274 +comment (10Dereckson) [22:08:54] New review: Parent5446; "> I sure hope it does." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37395 [22:10:41] New patchset: Mattflaschen; "Use new separate submodule instead of coping third-party library." [mediawiki/extensions/GuidedTour] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39496 [22:12:08] 03(mod) Feedback post-edit for it.wikivoyage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43273 +patch-in-gerrit +shell; +comment (10Dereckson) [22:12:35] 03(mod) Edit protection options in English are confusing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43272 +comment (10Ori Livneh) [22:15:19] 03(mod) Please restrict anonymous users from creating new pages at sw.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42894 +comment (10kipala) [22:15:28] 03(mod) Wikilove for it.wikivoyage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43274 (10madbul98) [22:15:42] terrrydactyl: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?p=mediawiki/extensions/Git2Pages.git;a=summary [22:16:21] New review: Ori.livneh; "If you found an orphaned dependency, please specify it in the commit, so we can figure out if we sho..." [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39494 [22:17:33] New review: Ori.livneh; "Let's get those mfs." [mediawiki/extensions/GuidedTour] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39496 [22:17:33] Change merged: Ori.livneh; [mediawiki/extensions/GuidedTour] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39496 [22:19:06] 03(mod) Make it possible to rename users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40061 (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [22:20:57] 03(mod) Edit protection options in English are confusing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43272 +comment (10Platonides) [22:21:42] New patchset: Kaldari; "Improving function descriptions in Linker" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39499 [22:21:52] New patchset: Parent5446; "(bug 24464) Execute LoginAuthenticateAudit hook more often." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37788 [22:22:18] New review: Mattflaschen; "All you have to do is run the command to get that answer." [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master); V: 0 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39494 [22:22:20] New patchset: Parent5446; "Added throttling framework." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34677 [22:22:41] New patchset: Parent5446; "(bug 39957) Added threshold for showing number of page watchers." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27134 [22:23:01] New patchset: Parent5446; "Added account creation API." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/18127 [22:24:51] 03(mod) Make it possible to rename users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40061 (10Matthew Bowker) [22:26:22] New patchset: MarkTraceur; "Add .gitignore and .gitreview" [mediawiki/extensions/Git2Pages] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39500 [22:26:39] terrrydactyl: Review and submit ^ and your repo will be done! [22:27:52] Change merged: Terrrydactyl; [mediawiki/extensions/Git2Pages] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39500 [22:28:39] New patchset: Hoo man; "Add a hooks.txt to AbuseFilter" [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39501 [22:29:08] 03(mod) Edit protection options in English are confusing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43272 +comment (10Steven Walling) [22:29:21] 03(mod) Wikilove for it.wikivoyage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43274 +comment (10Dereckson) [22:29:50] New review: Hoo man; "@Siebrand: Done in https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39501" [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34330 [22:32:42] 03(mod) Wikilove for it.wikivoyage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43274 +comment (10Dereckson) [22:34:38] Hello terrrydactyl. Congratulations for your first Gerrit review approval. [22:34:52] no way! where? [22:35:39] sumanah: she reviewed and merged the repository setup - the add of .gitignore and .gitreview by marktraceur. https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/39500/ [22:35:57] rock [22:36:01] Dereckson: She's about to do some git magic to merge the github repo, too [22:36:07] ooohhhh [22:36:13] * CompilingPanda congratulates terrrydactyl  [22:36:22] for a while i thought it was terry chay's alternate nick [22:36:34] /nick NotSlackingOffPanda [22:36:37] :) [22:36:37] heh! btw Dereckson maybe you or terrrydactyl could add something to https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developers/Maintainers [22:36:54] marktraceur: I *am* compiling vim :) [22:36:54] OK ; I then ensure, the component is on Bugzilla. [22:36:59] New patchset: Bsitu; "Disable standard user talk page notification" [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39502 [22:37:15] -, [22:37:57] 03(mod) Please restrict anonymous users from creating new pages at sw.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42894 (10Matthew Bowker) [22:38:23] New review: Madman; "Looks like the test "failure" was just a timeout; may have to upload another patch set to clear the ..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27134 [22:46:46] 03(mod) Please restrict anonymous users from creating new pages at sw.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42894 (10Platonides) [22:48:57] New patchset: Terrrydactyl; "Initial Commit" [mediawiki/extensions/Git2Pages] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39503 [22:48:57] 03(mod) Please restrict anonymous users from creating new pages at sw.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42894 +comment (10Dereckson) [22:49:39] Dereckson: Care to review terrrydactyl's commit merging in the GitHub stuff? [22:49:45] Platonides: two or three more bugs like this one and I will prepare a script to move a Bugzilla discussion on meta. [22:51:00] terrrydactyl: when you want someone to review your code, you can on Gerrit add the name of the person (there is an autocomplete) in the textbox at the left of "Add reviewer". [22:51:18] To test it, add me for example. [22:53:31] 03(mod) Please restrict anonymous users from creating new pages at sw.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42894 +comment (10Ariel T. Glenn) [22:57:05] New patchset: Reedy; "Add .gitreview and .gitignore" [mediawiki/extensions/EImage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39505 [22:57:16] New patchset: Reedy; "Add .gitreview and .gitignore" [mediawiki/extensions/MyVariables] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39506 [22:57:28] New patchset: Reedy; "Add .gitreview and .gitignore" [mediawiki/extensions/PGFTikZ] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39507 [22:57:39] New patchset: Reedy; "Add .gitreview and .gitignore" [mediawiki/extensions/PerPageLicense] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39508 [22:57:51] New patchset: Reedy; "Add .gitreview and .gitignore" [mediawiki/extensions/TimelineTable] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39509 [22:58:02] New patchset: Reedy; "Add .gitreview and .gitignore" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikilog] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39510 [22:58:26] Dereckson: Okay! I've added you. Thanks for the tip. [22:58:53] Lo, and Reedy did come, and he did smite the repositories with his script. And they had .gitreview and .gitignore, each one. And Reedy said it was good. [22:59:09] No marktraceur [22:59:13] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions/EImage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39505 [22:59:17] ^ now it is good ;) [22:59:26] :) [22:59:37] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions/MyVariables] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39506 [22:59:43] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions/PGFTikZ] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39507 [22:59:45] 03(mod) Edit protection options in English are confusing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43272 +comment (10Platonides) [22:59:48] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions/PerPageLicense] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39508 [22:59:59] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions/TimelineTable] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39509 [23:00:04] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikilog] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39510 [23:02:51] New review: Dereckson; "You have a functional extension skeleton, this is nice." [mediawiki/extensions/Git2Pages] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39503 [23:03:06] New patchset: Reedy; "Add .gitreview and .gitignore" [mediawiki/extensions/GuidedTour/guiders] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39511 [23:03:33] New patchset: Kaldari; "More work on our custom edit summary parsing" [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39512 [23:04:15] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions/GuidedTour/guiders] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39511 [23:04:53] New patchset: Lupo; "Cleanup: missing "var"s, unused locals, etc." [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39513 [23:05:08] Here your review. [23:05:13] New patchset: Reedy; "Kill old scary version of jquery" [mediawiki/extensions/GuidedTour/guiders] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39514 [23:05:50] Dereckson: Thanks! [23:05:55] 03(mod) Edit protection options in English are confusing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43272 +comment (10MZMcBride) [23:06:21] 03(NEW) Misplaced mathjax formulae - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43275 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Math; () [23:06:28] You're welcome. How are the SF offices? [23:06:36] New patchset: Reedy; "Losslessly compress PNG files" [mediawiki/extensions/GuidedTour/guiders] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39515 [23:08:12] [17:53] [17:36:22] for a while i thought it was terry chay's alternate nick [23:08:16] Hah, I just realized it wasn't. >_> [23:08:21] Susan: :D [23:09:14] 03(mod) Edit protection options in English are confusing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43272 +comment (10Steven Walling) [23:10:23] Dereckson: It's really nice here! A bit quiet, but definitely very relaxed. [23:13:45] 03(mod) Edit protection options in English are confusing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43272 +comment (10MZMcBride) [23:16:09] I'm glad you like the environment. [23:16:29] 03(mod) Edit protection options in English are confusing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43272 +comment (10Steven Walling) [23:19:45] 03(mod) Cancel Button saves text, Publish Button does nothing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42198 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [23:22:27] New patchset: Kaldari; "Remove redundant preference for talk page emails" [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39518 [23:26:52] 03(mod) Please restrict anonymous users from creating new pages at sw.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42894 +comment (10kipala) [23:27:01] terrrydactyl: a page to create -> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Git2Pages [23:29:16] hoo: do you know when the abusefilter will be updated on wmf wikis? [23:29:42] legoktm: The changes you submitted will be part of 1.21wmf7 [23:29:44] legoktm: There's a schedule on mediawiki.org. [23:30:11] * Wednesday, January 9 (English Wikipedia) [23:30:11] * Monday, January 11 (other Wikipedia) [23:30:13] hoo / Susan: thanks [23:30:53] 03(mod) Upload an image request shows up in strange places - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42703 +comment (10Jon) [23:31:18] 03(mod) Upload an image request shows up in strange places - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42703 (10Jon) [23:31:24] 03(mod) Upload an image request shows up in strange places - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42703 (10Jon) [23:32:10] New review: CSteipp; "So I *think* you avoid the race condition by updating the globaluser table early on. Iirc, all wikis..." [mediawiki/extensions/CentralAuth] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39171 [23:32:51] 03(mod) Spamming continuing on beta wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39446 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [23:32:54] 03(mod) Give editintro an own css id/class - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30959 (10mybugs.mail) [23:35:01] 03(mod) [GeoCrumbs] Crumbs are shown even on project/special pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42946 -patch-need-review (10Andre Klapper) [23:43:25] terrrydactyl: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Template:Extension [23:45:19] 03(mod) Install Component watching extension for bugzilla - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37105 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [23:45:21] qgil, can't you send to both lists at once? [23:45:59] Krenair, I want to avoid wide cross-posting if someone replies [23:46:04] ah [23:46:10] Krenair, and I need to run to catch a train! : [23:46:23] bye [23:46:44] bye [23:56:56] 03(mod) openZIM products - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43248 (10Andre Klapper) [23:57:14] 03(mod) Install Component watching extension for bugzilla - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37105 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [23:58:23] 03(mod) openZIM products - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43248 +comment (10Andre Klapper)