[00:00:42] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "Fixed comment typo." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39523 [00:02:31] New patchset: Brian Wolff; "(bug 37195) Doc fix. $from and $until are arrays since 1.17." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39524 [00:03:19] 03(mod) CategoryViewer has $from defined as String but is used later as array - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37195 +patch-in-gerrit; +comment (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) [00:05:26] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39523 [00:09:04] Reedy: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/39170/ [00:15:14] andre__: hi, still up? [00:15:49] New review: Dereckson; "Also, consider if you wish or not to track .project, as it's an IDE related stuff. Generally, we don..." [mediawiki/extensions/Git2Pages] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39503 [00:16:07] sumanah, heja [00:16:39] andre__: it looks like there's nothing in particular blocking the next deployment and nothing huge and immediate! yay! [00:17:14] and my eyes deceive me, or there are only 1022 unprioritized non-enhancements (that don't mention "semantic" in the component)! Is that you? [00:17:25] that would be something like HALF what it was a week ago [00:17:39] 03(mod) Don't serve Special:GettingStarted to mobile users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43255 (10Maryana Pinchuk) [00:18:00] 03(mod) Refactor page translation code - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38964 (10Sumana Harihareswara) [00:18:36] sumanah, I think I prioritized about 170 in the last seven days. I think you ran another query that maybe included enhancements [00:18:55] sumanah, sorry to disappointment you in case your impression so far was that I have superpowers ;) [00:19:13] a few highest prio items, but yeah, nothing really immediate right now. Good times. [00:19:40] 03(mod) Please set X-Content-Duration on OGG Video files - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41304 +comment (10Aaron Schulz) [00:19:54] terrrydactyl: please create an account on Bugzilla - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/ - if you don't have already one (sorry, this isn't linked to the Gerrit/Jenkins/Labs dev account) [00:20:02] andre__: I've been running the same saved search, "Unprioritiesed" :-) [00:20:25] also I *know* you have superpowers and this is not just an impression :) [00:20:48] I think we had about 1200 a few days ago with that query. [00:20:55] 03(mod) File extension letter case treatment should be unified on Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40326 (10Sumana Harihareswara) [00:21:02] Meh. No chance to hide it that fact, it seems... [00:21:26] * andre__ needs to bring his girl to bed, will be back later [00:21:37] OK. I think I must have misremembered it as 2000 and not 1200. 170 is still very desirable progress.... yay [00:21:39] ok, bye [00:22:24] Dereckson: Creating an account now! [00:22:37] 03(mod) Impossible to select contact method - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37157 (10Sumana Harihareswara) [00:23:43] 03(mod) Unable to add category to page due to database transaction aborted on PostgreSQL. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37172 +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [00:24:13] 03(mod) ArticleFeedbackv5 generating bad recent changes entries - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40195 (10Sumana Harihareswara) [00:27:19] Thank you, we can now request a new component in Bugzilla for the extensino. [00:27:21] on [00:27:49] Change merged: Kaldari; [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39502 [00:28:52] 03(NEW) New component: MediaWiki extensions > Git2Pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43276 enhancement; Wikimedia: Bugzilla; () [00:30:13] Change merged: Bsitu; [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39518 [00:32:46] New patchset: Kaldari; "Update Echo to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf6) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39526 [00:34:17] Change merged: Kaldari; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf6) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39526 [00:47:34] 03(mod) [GeoCrumbs] Crumbs are shown even on project/special pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42946 +comment (10Dereckson) [00:49:50] New patchset: Anomie; "Refactor unit tests" [mediawiki/extensions/Scribunto] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39527 [00:56:03] New patchset: Aklapper; "(bug 43130) Reapply changes to Bugmail.pm after Bugzilla 4.2 update" [wikimedia/bugzilla/modifications] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39528 [00:57:05] 03(mod) Reapply Bugmail.pm hack after Bugzilla upgrade from 4.0 to 4.2 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43130 +patch-in-gerrit; +comment (10Andre Klapper) [01:00:55] New patchset: Bsitu; "Remove code for disabled event types" [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39529 [01:03:37] Change merged: Kaldari; [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39529 [01:05:42] New patchset: Kaldari; "Update Echo to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf6) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39530 [01:10:26] New review: Anomie; "I have a new revision of this, but it depends on Ic416552f and Ic0a98eec and I81ba3228. Not sure how..." [mediawiki/extensions/Scribunto] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/38013 [01:12:25] Change merged: Kaldari; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf6) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39530 [01:21:45] 03(mod) Don't serve Special:GettingStarted to mobile users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43255 +comment (10Arthur Richards) [01:26:04] New patchset: Hoo man; "Fix the abusefilter array parser test" [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39531 [01:33:00] marktraceur: sumanah asked me yesterday to create a WMF page for the internship and pointed to me https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Engineering/Project_documentation_howto [01:34:16] To get the status helper working, I had to put this page on "Wikimedia Features engineering" or another main hub page. [01:34:21] Should I: [01:35:19] - ask a modification to the report system to include a Misc hub and this Misc hub page to be added on [[MediaWiki:Gadget-WmfProjectStatusHelper.js]] [01:35:23] New patchset: Hoo man; "Minor removal of duplicate code within the AF parser" [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39532 [01:35:51] - or ask QGil to determine what department the intern will be attached to (features or platform) [01:36:27] (the interns, as I guess there will be the similar issue to solve for some others) [01:39:11] New patchset: Bsitu; "Add missing variable for template parsing" [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39533 [01:41:31] New patchset: Hoo man; "Minor removal of duplicate code within the AF parser" [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39532 [01:42:17] Change merged: Kaldari; [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39533 [01:43:04] New review: Hoo man; "Fixed and added a comment (the code comments within the parser are extremely poor atm)" [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39532 [01:44:15] New patchset: Kaldari; "Update Echo to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf6) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39534 [01:44:24] Change merged: Kaldari; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf6) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39534 [01:49:56] New patchset: Christian; "Fixing label tag in demo" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39535 [01:58:49] 03(mod) Don't serve Special:GettingStarted to mobile users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43255 (10spage) [01:59:53] 03(NEW) Do not show option to "Leave a redirect behind" if moving a JS or CSS page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43277 normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; () [02:05:06] 03(mod) Do not show option to "Leave a redirect behind" if moving a JS or CSS page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43277 (10mybugs.mail) [02:06:04] New patchset: Parent5446; "(bug 39957) Added threshold for showing number of page watchers." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27134 [02:07:05] I'm looking for a way to hide certain pages or a specific namespace from anonymous visitors. I'm using MW 1.20 and semantic media wiki extensions [02:07:21] I've tried AccessControl but it is over zelous. [02:07:37] Is there another I should look at? [02:08:44] By over zelous I mean I can't get AccessControl to grant permission to authenticated users. [02:10:01] I also tried NamespacePermissions but turning it on blocked access to SMW's Property: namespace [02:11:44] 03(mod) Add "show new changes starting from" links to Watchlist and Newpages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/4903 +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [02:14:17] 03(mod) Do not show option to "Leave a redirect behind" if moving a JS or CSS page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43277 15enhancement->minor; +comment (10Dereckson) [02:14:25] Hello frumious. [02:14:55] hi Dereckson [02:15:14] Did you review all the possibilities you have on the http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access page? [02:16:02] No, I didn't. Thanks. I'll do that. [02:17:32] And let me check what they use on a wiki I contribute to, where pages are restricted to some groups. [02:17:56] They use http://mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Lockdown [02:20:25] I tried Lockdown briefly but I could still see content via searching for it. On your wiki is this also the case? [02:20:54] Yes, only the pages content are hidden. [02:21:09] oh you mean the content appears in the search? [02:21:30] yes, correct. [02:22:04] I can see the text near the search term although I can't visit the page that's "locked down". [02:22:23] 03(mod) Do not show option to "Leave a redirect behind" if moving a JS or CSS page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43277 (10mybugs.mail) [02:25:12] Strange, search doesn't include them there (MediaWiki 1.16.0beta3 + Lockdown at r69001, ie two years ago). [02:26:28] It's possible there is a dependence on if a page was created before or after the extension was put in use. [02:26:29] The extension authors are often on IRC, under Platonides and Daniel_WMDE nicknames. [02:26:51] Ah, that's possible. [02:27:00] this one looks promising: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:PrivatePageProtection [02:28:11] Okay, I'll look at this one and exercise Lockdown some more just to make sure I didn't miss something. [02:28:20] Thanks for the pointers. [02:28:22] Could you fill a bug about Lockdown? https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=MediaWiki extensions&component=[other] [02:28:36] (thanks Firefox for the space...) [02:28:49] I meant https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=MediaWiki%20extensions&component=[other] [02:29:57] Yes, I'll re-do my setup and take some better notes. [02:32:35] Thank you, that will help the extension quality. [02:43:40] Oh, excellent! [02:44:05] Lockdown seems to be working. [02:45:34] New patchset: Hoo man; "Add a hooks.txt to AbuseFilter" [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39501 [02:46:16] It looks like pages in the locked down namespace are not indexed so even logged in users can not find them in a search. That happens to be okay for me. [02:46:19] New review: Hoo man; "Per Alex Monk" [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39501 [02:46:46] Dereckson, does your wiki with Lockdown use Semantic MW extensions? [02:53:10] good night :) [02:53:36] night hoo1 :) [02:54:44] thanks, legoktm :) [02:56:09] 03(NEW) Size limit for labels and descriptions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43278 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; () [02:56:20] 03(mod) Size limit for labels and descriptions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43278 normal->major (10Aude) [03:03:04] 03(mod) Special:Statistics - new line "other pages" in section page statistics - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33277 (10Waldir) [03:10:14] 03(mod) Size limit for labels and descriptions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43278 +comment (10Aude) [03:14:23] New review: Spage; "Thanks, addressed in next patch." [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39370 [03:20:46] whats the modern equivilent of articlepath? [03:22:27] New patchset: Spage; "Much of new event logging." [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39370 [03:35:57] New patchset: Legoktm; "(bug 43228) WIP Add AbuseFilter hook for Special:EmailUser" [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39536 [03:37:13] 03(mod) Have emails go through the AbuseFilter - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43228 +comment (10Legoktm) [03:57:42] 03(NEW) import into Schema: namespace failed with content model error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43279 minor; MediaWiki extensions: EventLogging; () [04:15:27] 03(mod) Special:Version can warn about '#' comments in .git/config - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39825 (10spage) [04:31:19] 03(mod) import into Schema: namespace failed with content model error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43279 +comment (10Ori Livneh) [04:42:02] 03(NEW) Cache shouldDisplayMobileView for duration of request - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43280 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend; () [04:43:23] 03(mod) Don't serve Special:GettingStarted to mobile users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43255 +comment (10Matthew Flaschen) [04:49:18] New review: Mattflaschen; "There is one actual problem, and two notes." [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39370 [04:50:15] New review: Mattflaschen; "See isGettingStarted note on patch set 1." [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39370 [04:50:42] New review: Ori.livneh; "Right, but be kind to your colleagues and spell things about a bit more in the commit message, as yo..." [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39494 [04:50:51] Change merged: Ori.livneh; [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39494 [04:52:11] 03(mod) Don't serve Special:GettingStarted to mobile users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43255 +comment (10Matthew Flaschen) [04:57:13] Hmmmm... any chance we can have login cookies expire at the end of a session and not right smack dab in the middle... >.> [04:59:00] 03(mod) Don't serve Special:GettingStarted to mobile users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43255 +comment (10Steven Walling) [05:16:45] 03(mod) Add wgPostEdit as core JavaScript variable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43270 (10Steven Walling) [05:31:54] New patchset: Carlb; "Initial check-in of Special:Namespaces for MW 1.19+" [mediawiki/extensions/SpecialNamespaces] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39537 [06:12:36] New patchset: Santhosh; "Mark the skipped translations as hard" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39538 [06:16:12] 03(NEW) Strange diff on the English Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43281 normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; () [06:33:00] New patchset: Spage; "Copy title attr to new #back-to-referrer button" [mediawiki/extensions/GettingStarted] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39360 [06:43:07] Change merged: IAlex; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39524 [06:43:32] Hi, I wanted to begin development with MediaWiki, my skills include HTML CSS and jQuery. From where should I begin? [06:44:23] New patchset: IAlex; "Improving function descriptions in Linker" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39499 [07:02:34] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39499 [07:05:47] New patchset: Santhosh; "Down arrow at the end of target language selector" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39539 [07:09:34] 03(mod) Wikivoyage: interwiki links require a cleanup/automatic replacement - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41986 +comment (10Nemo) [07:11:46] Change merged: Ori.livneh; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27134 [07:11:53] New patchset: Amire80; "Cleanup of error handling in saving messages" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39401 [07:20:45] New patchset: Lupo; "(bug 13721) Trim replacement character from rev_comment" [mediawiki/tools/mwdumper] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33334 [07:21:40] 03(mod) Expose MediaWiki info action's page watchers value to more users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39957 +comment (10MZMcBride) [07:23:18] New review: Lupo; "Patch set 2 just adds the whitespace fixes requested by Ori." [mediawiki/tools/mwdumper] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33334 [07:27:16] Change merged: Ori.livneh; [mediawiki/extensions/GettingStarted] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39360 [07:28:28] Change merged: Ori.livneh; [mediawiki/tools/mwdumper] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33334 [07:29:16] New review: Ori.livneh; "S, will you address Siebrand's comment?" [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/38818 [07:31:37] 03(mod) Data too long for column 'rev_comment' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/13721 +comment (10Lupo) [07:33:37] 03(mod) Impossible to select contact method - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37157 major->normal (10Siebrand) [07:46:11] * ConfusedPanda pokes santhosh  [07:46:43] ConfusedPanda: why confused? :) [07:47:04] santhosh legoktm used Confusion on me, and it was super effective :P [07:47:19] anyway, yuvi.in/indic-typing/index.html [07:47:24] i want to hide the current selector? [07:47:32] i didn't implement a new one, since the functionality I needed was so less [07:47:46] is there any way for me to disable it in js itself? [07:47:59] instead of using a !important rule to hide it? [07:50:31] in IME, this.selector should be destroyed. then it will be ok. [07:50:56] but, I am just guessing, did not try out [07:53:23] santhosh: will tr [07:53:24] y [07:53:58] feel free to introduce a flexible way to do that to jquery.ime too. [08:06:50] Change abandoned: Bean49; "Alternative merged." [mediawiki/tools/mwdumper] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30932 [08:08:20] New patchset: IAlex; "Add missing message in messages.inc and rebuild MessagesEn.php" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39540 [08:09:05] New patchset: IAlex; "Cleanup to ImagePage::openShowImage()" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33116 [08:09:09] 03(mod) Add definitions to Special:ListGroupRights from $wgAutopromote - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/14466 summary; +comment (10Nemo) [08:09:58] !botnoob [08:09:58] I don't know everything about everything. I am mostly for lazy experienced users to echo quick answers to very common mediawiki questions. Please don't randomly experiment with me for help. Everything I know is at http://toolserver.org/~mwbot/botbrain.html and you can visit #mwbot or privately message me. [08:10:12] New patchset: IAlex; "Fixes to the "reset password" mode of Special:ChangeEmail" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33118 [08:11:07] @infobot-trust+ #mwbot [08:11:45] @infobot-share-trust+ #mwbot [08:11:45] You inserted channel #mwbot to shared db [08:13:28] New review: Nikerabbit; "Interesting way to make a triangle." [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master); V: 0 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39539 [08:14:52] 03(mod) Modernize the look and usability of page histories - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28131 +comment (10Nemo) [08:14:55] 03(mod) New page Special:Userinfo - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22516 (10Nemo) [08:16:17] New review: Nikerabbit; "This might come to bite us later." [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master); V: 0 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39365 [08:23:42] New patchset: IAlex; "fix and provide more documentation in EditPage for mergeContentInto functions" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30117 [08:26:58] 03(NEW) Add per-namespace restrictions and rights to Special:ListGroupRights - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43282 enhancement; MediaWiki: Special pages; () [08:27:05] New review: Spage; "Respond to comments. New patch with additional changes coming." [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39370 [08:27:10] New patchset: IAlex; "fix and provide more documentation in EditPage for mergeContentInto functions" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30117 [08:27:11] 03(mod) Add per-namespace restrictions and rights to Special:ListGroupRights - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43282 (10Nemo) [08:27:12] 03(mod) Add definitions to Special:ListGroupRights from $wgAutopromote - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/14466 (10Nemo) [08:29:15] New review: IAlex; "- Removed "&" from parameter documentation" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30117 [08:30:30] Change merged: IAlex; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30117 [08:32:20] New patchset: IAlex; "Cleanup to ImagePage::openShowImage()" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33116 [08:37:53] ...you know... now that I think about it... no-one has created a really good and friendly truly open backup tool... well, at least not one enabling easy use as well as an economy of helpful offsite backup providers [08:38:42] New review: Spage; "respond to Matt comments. Again, patch #3 coming." [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39370 [08:40:51] New review: Nikerabbit; "Indentation contains mixed tab and space indentation. Indentation should be done with tabs only. Tab..." [mediawiki/extensions/SpecialNamespaces] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39537 [08:42:48] New review: Nikerabbit; "Missing @since, missing release notes." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27134 [08:44:09] Nikerabbit: should I revert and re-submit or just follow-up with the missing docs? [08:45:17] newbie and want to contribute, any help? [08:48:22] ori-l: just follow-up imho [08:49:22] New patchset: Santhosh; "Fix Bug: When clicking on any part of the editor, the focus moves to the text area." [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39541 [08:52:03] newbie here. Help anyone? Where can I start contributing? [08:52:18] New patchset: Santhosh; "Round the percentage of match" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39542 [08:52:37] bluenotebook: I'm a bit busy right now, but you might try reading https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_become_a_MediaWiki_hacker [09:04:56] 03(NEW) Page information for MediaWiki: messages says all users can edit and move - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43283 normal; MediaWiki: Page protection; () [09:05:12] 03(mod) Page information for MediaWiki: messages says all users can edit and move - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43283 (10Minh Nguyễn) [09:15:23] New patchset: Bean49; "Get Jenkins to build the project" [mediawiki/tools/mwdumper] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39544 [09:15:39] New patchset: Ori.livneh; "(bug 39957) Document $wgUnwatchedPageThreshold var" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39545 [09:16:28] ^ Nikerabbit [09:19:16] Change abandoned: Bean49; "Project built after previous changes merged." [mediawiki/tools/mwdumper] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39544 [09:20:20] 03(mod) Unable to add category to page due to database transaction aborted on PostgreSQL. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37172 +comment (10Pei-Tang Huang) [09:43:11] 03(mod) Special:Version can warn about '#' comments in .git/config - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39825 (10Karun) [09:43:19] 03(mod) Special:Version can warn about '#' comments in .git/config - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39825 (10Karun) [09:46:27] Hi, need help with Extension:ArticleFeedbackv5 [09:46:56] its not being displayed on pages [09:48:51] hi [09:49:10] Pages where? [09:49:37] can someone tell me, if "Jquery UI" is integrated into mediawiki, and if not, how I can include it in an extension? [09:49:49] It is included [09:50:04] You need to just add the relative dependancies to your resource loader module definitions [09:50:41] i have to admit, that i don't have that much experience with mediawiki [09:51:30] is there an instruction, or an extension that uses jqueryUI? [09:51:47] New patchset: Hashar; "Allow per-realm and per-datacenter configuration" [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaMaintenance] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32169 [09:51:52] Change merged: IAlex; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39545 [09:56:11] New patchset: IAlex; "Add an option to importImages to search subdirectories recursively" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39405 [09:56:58] hi reed [09:57:16] on the page where the content is displayed [09:57:36] 03(mod) Use red user icon for female users in Vector personal portlet section. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41484 -easy +design; summary; +comment (10Krinkle) [09:57:37] 03(mod) GENDER (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30443 (10Krinkle) [09:58:00] 03(mod) Use red user icon for female users in Vector personal portlet section. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41484 (10Krinkle) [09:58:03] 03(mod) GENDER (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30443 (10Krinkle) [10:00:17] Change merged: IAlex; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39405 [10:01:51] Hello everybody [10:02:15] I have this mediawiki where people can document their projects. [10:03:18] So, I have a Model:Projects template where there's a "idea_from=user" and "contributors=user1,user2,etc" [10:04:32] And, I want the Model:User template to use this data to list the projects in which the user is listed as "idea_from" [10:04:36] New patchset: Zfilipin; "Updated Ruby gems" [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39547 [10:05:00] i am just getting this "
" blank div in on the article pages where its been enabled [10:06:32] New patchset: Hashar; "Allow per-realm and per-datacenter configuration" [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaMaintenance] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32169 [10:07:01] New review: Hashar; "rephrased commit message" [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaMaintenance] (master); V: 0 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32169 [10:16:29] 03(mod) Include logged action from abusefilter into CheckUser report - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29583 +comment (10Snowolf) [10:24:05] New review: Hashar; "Retriggering tests, should also submit :)" [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaMaintenance] (master); V: 0 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32169 [10:26:01] 03(mod) Add ability to remove sysop/bureaucrat to fi.wikipedia bureaucrats - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42114 (10Jafeluv) [10:26:33] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaMaintenance] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32169 [10:30:54] New review: Raimond Spekking; "+1 from an i18n point of view." [mediawiki/extensions/CentralAuth] (master); V: 1 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/38895 [10:31:43] New patchset: IAlex; "cleanup WatchedItem class" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33861 [10:33:50] 03(NEW) ProofreadPage tag is broken in Vietnamese localization - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43284 normal; MediaWiki extensions: ProofreadPage; () [10:34:01] 03(mod) [statements-ui] correct item labels, links to items & properties on page load/reaload - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43263 +comment (10Daniel Werner) [10:34:23] New patchset: Hashar; "Add support for mulitpart mime email to email sending code" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37515 [10:35:00] New review: Hashar; "removed trailing whitespaces in includes/UserMailer.php." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37515 [10:36:09] 03(mod) ProofreadPage tag is broken in Vietnamese localization - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43284 +i18n (10Minh Nguyễn) [10:37:40] Change merged: IAlex; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33861 [10:47:47] 03(NEW) Undoing alias change results in loosing alias - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43285 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; () [10:48:57] New patchset: Hashar; "update WikimediaMaintenance to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf5) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39552 [10:49:55] * dijit is happy this channel is here. [10:50:38] so I googled a bit, but couldn't find anything official looking [guide/tutorial] for getting mediawiki deployed on top of postgres. [10:51:22] I did see the page indicating that the project was run by volunteers, but given that most open source ventures are; I assumed their findings would be on the main mediawiki site. [10:51:42] would anyone here know where I could find this information? [10:52:14] (if it has any bearing on anything I'm using RHEL 6.3 w/ postgres 8.4) [10:52:45] 03(NEW) Revision does not exist for message in source Ӏanguage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43286 enhancement; MediaWiki extensions: Translate; () [10:53:23] New patchset: Hashar; "update WikimediaMaintenance to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf6) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39554 [10:53:41] New review: Hashar; "recheck" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf5); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39552 [10:54:48] New patchset: Santhosh; "Mark the skipped translations as hard" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39538 [10:55:04] 03(mod) [statements-ui] correct item labels, links to items & properties on page load/reaload - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43263 +comment (10Daniel Werner) [10:55:50] New review: Hashar; "recheck" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf6); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39554 [11:00:01] Change merged: IAlex; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39493 [11:00:29] New review: Hashar; "1.21wmf5 : https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/39552/" [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaMaintenance] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32169 [11:02:38] New patchset: Santhosh; "Round the percentage of match" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39542 [11:03:42] 03(NEW) Indicate current JobQueue delay by exposing oldest job_timestamp through API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43287 enhancement; MediaWiki: API; () [11:06:46] New patchset: Amire80; "Cleanup of error handling in saving messages" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39401 [11:09:22] 03(NEW) $wgDebugToolbar hides "edit links" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43288 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataClient; () [11:11:49] 03(mod) Add Javanese font to WebFonts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39381 +comment (10bennylin) [11:15:48] 03(mod) Indicate current JobQueue delay by exposing oldest job_timestamp through API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43287 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [11:17:12] New patchset: Amire80; "Cleanup of error handling in saving messages" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39401 [11:19:17] New patchset: IAlex; "(bug 42519) Message "enotif body intro deleted" mentions revision" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36154 [11:21:15] Change abandoned: Hashar; "branch no more used" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf5) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39552 [11:21:37] 03(NEW) Wikibase\EntityContentFactory' not found during phpunit tests - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43289 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataClient; () [11:21:48] 03(mod) Wikibase\EntityContentFactory not found during phpunit tests - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43289 summary (10Aude) [11:26:56] 03(mod) Indicate current JobQueue delay by exposing oldest job_timestamp through API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43287 +comment (10Richard Guk) [11:32:39] 03(mod) Revision does not exist for message in source language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43286 summary (10Nemo) [11:32:56] 03(mod) Indicate current JobQueue delay by exposing oldest job_timestamp through API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43287 +comment (10Max Semenik) [11:36:44] 03(mod) memcached keys too long - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43269 +easy (10Yuvi Panda) [11:36:59] 03(mod) Extension:ShortUrl has memcached keys too long - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43269 summary (10Yuvi Panda) [11:45:22] New review: Hashar; "following a discussion with Sam" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf6); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39554 [11:45:23] Change merged: Hashar; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf6) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39554 [11:49:31] 03(mod) [statements-ui] correct item labels, links to items & properties on page load/reaload - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43263 (10Daniel Werner) [11:49:48] 03(mod) Wikibase\EntityContentFactory not found during phpunit tests - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43289 +comment (10Aude) [11:49:54] 03(mod) Wikibase\EntityContentFactory not found during phpunit tests - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43289 (10Aude) [11:52:02] 03(mod) [statements-ui] Qunit tests for the creation and display of statements - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42576 summary (10Daniel Werner) [11:59:06] 03(mod) Handling of # URIs is broken in SMW - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43264 +comment (10Andreas Plank) [11:59:59] 03(NEW) Links from client to non-main namespace missing namespace prefix - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43290 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataClient; () [12:00:17] 03(NEW) [statements-ui] Adding references (consisting of one Snak only) to an existing Statement - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43291 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; () [12:03:21] New patchset: Santhosh; "Hide the suggestion titles if nothing to show" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39561 [12:03:44] 03(NEW) [statements-ui] Editing existing references (consisting of one Snak only) of a Statement - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43292 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; () [12:03:55] 03(mod) [statements-ui] Adding references (consisting of one Snak only) to an existing Statement - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43291 (10Daniel Werner) [12:03:56] 03(mod) [statements-ui] Editing existing references (consisting of one Snak only) of a Statement - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43292 (10Daniel Werner) [12:07:44] 03(NEW) [statements-ui] Removal of References - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43293 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; () [12:13:27] 03(NEW) "WikidataRepo" and "WikidataClient" should be renamed in "Wikibase Repo" and Wikibase Client" on Bugzilla - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43294 normal; Wikimedia: Bugzilla; () [12:16:32] 03(mod) Indicate current JobQueue delay by exposing oldest job_timestamp through API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43287 +comment (10Richard Guk) [12:24:12] 03(mod) Indicate current JobQueue delay by exposing oldest job_timestamp through API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43287 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [12:30:39] New patchset: Santhosh; "Push the checkboxes in message list header to two columns right" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39562 [12:33:53] 03(mod) Please upload a video file to Wikimedia Commons 1.81 GB - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41823 +comment (10Jeanne Menjoulet) [12:36:22] 03(mod) [statements-ui] Editing existing references (consisting of one Snak only) of a Statement - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43292 (10Daniel Werner) [12:36:28] 03(mod) [statements-ui] Removal of References - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43293 (10Daniel Werner) [12:36:29] 03(mod) [statements-ui] Editing existing references (consisting of one Snak only) of a Statement - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43292 (10Daniel Werner) [12:41:31] 03(mod) Setup wgCodeReviewAutoTagPath for CR to target cluster extensions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30781 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [12:43:50] 03(mod) The vertical feedback button doesn't appear on the right of the article page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32941 04BLOCKER->major; +testme; +comment (10Andre Klapper) [12:44:35] 03(mod) Installation of OnlineStatusBar to test - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32021 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [12:45:56] 03(mod) Indicate current JobQueue delay by exposing oldest job_timestamp through API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43287 (10Andre Klapper) [12:49:29] New review: Pginer; "The change looks good but note that when the "More filters" menu is implemented, the checks will app..." [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master); V: 2 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39562 [12:50:49] 03(mod) Enhance imagescaler processes containment - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43188 +comment (10Jan Gerber) [12:51:30] 03(mod) "WikidataRepo" and "WikidataClient" should be renamed in "Wikibase Repo" and Wikibase Client" on Bugzilla - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43294 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [12:51:43] 03(NEW) Keyword 'use' inconsistency for php namespaces - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43295 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataClient; () [12:52:39] 03(mod) "WikidataRepo" and "WikidataClient" should be renamed in "Wikibase Repo" and Wikibase Client" on Bugzilla - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43294 +comment (10Aude) [12:54:29] 03(mod) Special:Version can warn about '#' comments in .git/config - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39825 +comment (10Karun) [12:54:59] 03(mod) Add per-namespace restrictions and rights to Special:ListGroupRights - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43282 (10Andre Klapper) [12:55:29] 03(mod) Page information for MediaWiki: messages says all users can edit and move - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43283 (10Andre Klapper) [12:55:29] 03(mod) Interface messages needing rewording or documentation and other issues with existing messages (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38638 (10Andre Klapper) [12:55:36] 03(mod) Indicate current JobQueue delay by exposing oldest job_timestamp through API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43287 +comment (10Richard Guk) [12:56:46] 03(mod) ProofreadPage tag is broken in Vietnamese localization - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43284 +code-update-regression; +comment (10Andre Klapper) [12:57:50] 03(mod) Modernize the look and usability of page histories - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28131 normal->15enhancement (10Andre Klapper) [13:01:23] 03(mod) Special:GettingStarted grey text less readable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43182 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [13:01:28] 03(mod) Add wgPostEdit as core JavaScript variable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43270 (10Andre Klapper) [13:04:21] New review: Nischayn22; "Kaldari, thanks for taking care of this one :)" [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36342 [13:04:34] New patchset: IAlex; "Fix ApiQueryLogEvents::addLogParams for unknown types using the new format" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39221 [13:06:30] 03(mod) Keyword 'use' inconsistency for php namespaces - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43295 (10Andre Klapper) [13:06:31] 03(mod) Code quality issues (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/700 (10Andre Klapper) [13:07:20] New review: Hashar; "Need to be rebased" [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaMaintenance] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33388 [13:07:27] 03(mod) $wgDefaultUserOptions['date'] = 'dmyts' causes MWException error when accessing settings - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42355 normal->major (10Andre Klapper) [13:07:55] New patchset: Matthias Mullie; "Refactor AFT backend" [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24264 [13:08:14] New review: Hashar; "recheck" [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaMaintenance] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33388 [13:08:33] New review: Hashar; "recheck" [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaMaintenance] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28695 [13:08:52] New review: Hashar; "recheck" [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaMaintenance] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33694 [13:10:30] New review: Hashar; "recheck" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37430 [13:10:31] cheezy meatpie! [13:10:46] Shukran, shukran, MediWiki devels [13:11:39] New patchset: Nikerabbit; "Hide the suggestion titles if nothing to show" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39561 [13:11:41] * jubo2 declares yet another "We ♥ FOSS devels"-day ( 2012-12-20 ) [13:12:20] I just grep for "declares yet another" and I get a list of them all :) [13:12:47] hello, migrating from v1.15 to v1.19, hitting 'permission denied for sequence logging_log_id_seq'. Of 15 sequences in the mediawiki schema, only 3 are owned by postgress, logging_log_id_seq being one of them. Can someone confirm that all should be owned by the postgres-wiki-user? [13:14:29] Change merged: IAlex; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39221 [13:15:21] New patchset: IAlex; "(bug 42519) Message "enotif body intro deleted" mentions revision" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36154 [13:16:19] <^demon> LV-426: From what I remember, they should all be owned by that user. But my memory's fuzzy--been awhile since I played with pg. [13:16:32] 03(mod) invalid XML response ("4::olduser", "5::newuser", "6::edits" appears as node attributes) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43221 +comment (10Alexandre Emsenhuber [IAlex]) [13:17:15] I suspect this being the cause of running the update.php by the postgres user... [13:17:41] ok, I'll go ahead & change the owner. [13:19:43] 03(mod) Create Special:Login as a redirect to Special:UserLogin - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37137 (10Andre Klapper) [13:20:46] Change merged: IAlex; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36154 [13:21:09] 03(mod) Allow redirects to/from Special: pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/5834 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [13:21:43] 03(mod) System message "enotif body intro deleted" seems to be wrong - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42519 +comment (10Alexandre Emsenhuber [IAlex]) [13:23:10] 03(mod) System message "enotif body intro deleted" seems to be wrong - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42519 (10Nemo) [13:26:23] this is turning hairy: ERROR: duplicate key value violates unique constraint "logging_pkey" [13:27:26] 03(NEW) Special:Ask does not provide more than ~5000 results - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43296 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; () [13:27:33] hallo [13:27:53] 03(mod) Extension:ShortUrl has memcached keys too long - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43269 +comment (10Niklas Laxström) [13:29:07] 03(mod) PHPlot to replace Ploticus - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30016 (10Andre Klapper) [13:30:04] 03(mod) You can only have one Exhibit query per page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22736 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [13:30:06] 03(mod) SRF-Ploticus: For showimagelink and showcsv actions, make the resulting image and csv file have non-hash fnames - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/17511 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [13:30:07] 03(mod) undocumented ?{blank} for first column in inline queries has some inconsistencies - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/13707 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [13:30:09] 03(mod) Problem with ontology import - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/8225 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [13:30:10] 03(mod) respect the user's date formatting - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/9620 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [13:30:12] 03(mod) you can no longer specify date format using the "units" technique - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/11853 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [13:30:13] 03(mod) A "do not transclude semantic properties outside of these namespaces" configuration option would be nice - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/21273 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [13:30:14] 03(mod) Other Input for arraymaps - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/16780 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [13:30:16] 03(mod) ask query removes results with no value for a property when sorting by it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22583 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [13:30:17] 03(mod) Change of Output for Type number an date - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/16601 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [13:30:17] New review: Nikerabbit; "Nice." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39493 [13:30:19] 03(mod) PHPlot to replace Ploticus - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30016 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [13:30:36] New patchset: Matthias Mullie; "Refactor AFT backend" [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24264 [13:31:01] hi FAdm_Harrys! [13:31:37] 03(mod) Indicate where the thread was moved to on placeholders - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/15133 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [13:31:42] 03(mod) On thread history page move items, indicate target and source - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/15134 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [13:31:50] 03(mod) LiquidThreads auto-summary doesn't auto-fill after clicking "add a reply" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/21931 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [13:31:53] hi andre__ . Do you speak german? [13:32:09] migrating via dumpBackup.php --full, didn't see any of this in another wiki migration when only importing the latest page version h the (--current) [13:32:30] FAdm_Harrys: a bit [13:32:48] ok... i have a problem with my mediawiki [13:33:08] the newest version from 4.12.12 [13:34:15] when i want to open my specialsite i see only a white site (http://www.sgraulich.de/stnt/datenbank/index.php?title=Spezial:Spezialseiten) [13:35:37] New patchset: Nischayn22; "Hook to allow manipulation of image data" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32189 [13:36:45] New patchset: Hashar; "API: option to split debug log per action" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37430 [13:37:05] FAdm_Harrys: blank pages are usually caused by a PHP error. Look at your web server error log :) [13:37:22] New review: Hashar; "rebased" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37430 [13:37:40] hashar: okay... where can i see this log?^^ [13:37:58] FAdm_Harrys: depend on your operating system and web server :-] [13:38:09] okay thank you [13:38:15] FAdm_Harrys: on linux/mac you get Apache2 usually which might write logs to /var/log/apache2/error.log [13:38:36] FAdm_Harrys: since you seem to have a shared host, I have no idea where it can write errors to [13:38:53] that is an Apache at least :) [13:38:59] ^^ [13:40:11] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39540 [13:47:54] 03(mod) Requesting a new hook to allow manipulation of image data (e.g. src attribute) before the image is rendered - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41835 +comment (10Nischay Nahata) [13:48:33] 03(mod) Table of contents shouldn't be a - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/658 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [13:50:26] 03(mod) Add Javanese font to WebFonts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39381 +upstream; +comment (10Dereckson) [13:50:53] 03(mod) Standalone markup-to-HTML translator? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/15118 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [13:52:57] 03(NEW) Allow WebFonts to be loaded but disabled by default. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43297 enhancement; Wikimedia: Site requests; () [13:52:57] 03(mod) Add Javanese font to WebFonts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39381 (10Dereckson) [13:53:19] New patchset: Anomie; "Merge changes from Beta's live hacks" [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaMaintenance] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33388 [13:53:19] 03(mod) Allow WebFonts to be loaded but disabled by default. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43297 +comment (10Dereckson) [13:53:52] New review: Anomie; "Rebased. Requires I7ef35304 to operations/mediawiki-config." [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaMaintenance] (master); V: 0 C: -2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33388 [13:56:40] New review: Anomie; "Remaining comments aren't worth holding this up any longer." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39170 [13:57:35] 03(mod) Inconsistent placement of patrol links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/5776 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [14:00:21] New patchset: Jdlrobson; "when requesting multiple images allow access to thumbnails" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39570 [14:00:41] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39170 [14:00:55] 03(mod) Special:Ask does not provide more than ~5000 results - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43296 +comment (10MWJames) [14:02:06] 03(mod) Allow WebFonts to be loaded but disabled by default. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43297 +patch-in-gerrit; +comment (10Dereckson) [14:04:03] New review: Dereckson; "@Nikerabbit It seems the correction requested are done:" [mediawiki/extensions/WebFonts] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24403 [14:05:43] New patchset: Zfilipin; "Fix IE10 failure in search test" [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39574 [14:06:09] New review: Anomie; "Very minor issues." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32189 [14:06:30] Hi is there anyway to get the complete mediawiki that wikipedia is using with all the plugins pre-configured ? [14:07:31] just upgraded from 1.19.1 to 1.20.2 and get "" is not a valid magic word for "speciale" (apache.log) and the same error when php refreshLinks.php is running. [14:08:10] i just found some hit with google but nothing helpful at all so far. [14:08:37] hi all [14:09:14] the last backtrace msg is: #0 /var/www/wimo/htdocs/wiki/includes/MagicWord.php(236): MagicWord->load('speciale') [14:09:35] <^demon> ardian: Not pre-configured, but if you use the wmf/* branches, you'll get the full collection of extensions we deploy. [14:10:23] ^demon: wmf/* branches ? I don't understand sorry ? [14:10:45] <^demon> We have wmf branches of mediawiki that have all of the extensions bundled as submodules. [14:11:22] <^demon> So if you've cloned, you can `git checkout foobar origin/wmf/1.21wmf6` `git branch -r` would list all of the branches. [14:11:25] i just upgrade mw 1.16 to 1.20.2 and somehow math is broken. when i got tags, everything is at latest version and so on - i got this error while saving: �MathRenderer::_writeDBentry�. Database error �1048: Column 'math_outputhash' cannot be null (localhost)�. [14:11:44] google does not help - plus i did not found anything in the bugzilla ;( [14:11:55] ardian- The configuration (except for passwords and such) is in the operations/mediawiki-config branch. But it's complex, considering it's shared for hundreds of wikis, and of course it doesn't contain the configurations for Apache, Memcache, and everything else Wikimedia uses. All those configs should be in git, somewhere, but you'd probably do better by translating that to a smaller-scale setup.. [14:12:12] ^demon: yes ? where can I get it? is it on git ? We are working on a project, we want to train people to write wikipedia articles I want to build a clone site for it [14:12:21] err, s/branch/repo/ [14:20:23] New patchset: Nischayn22; "Make necessary method public from protected." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39575 [14:22:56] 03(mod) PHP Fatal moving Semantic pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43080 major->normal; +patch-in-gerrit +patch-need-review; +comment (10Nischay Nahata) [14:23:22] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "(bug 42168) Nicely handle missing revisions in ApiQueryRevisions." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/38536 [14:29:14] New review: Mwjames; "I can't comprehend as to why this method was protected in the first place but in case it is not merg..." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master); V: 1 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39575 [14:30:42] could using 5.4.6-1ubuntu1.1 be a problem? [14:31:07] 03(mod) Indicate current JobQueue delay by exposing oldest job_timestamp through API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43287 +comment (10Max Semenik) [14:31:13] math does not work, uploading fails, some more issues ;( [14:31:14] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "(minor) Make ORMTable handle failed queries nicely." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37233 [14:33:31] Niktator: Why do you ask? [14:33:36] Niktator: uploading files is disabled per default. math is also disabled per default, and needs quite a few things installed on your system (latex, among other things) [14:33:46] WFM on my dev vm [14:33:52] * DanielK_WMDE just dropped in and may be missing some context here [14:34:46] oh i followed the manual very careful. builded texvc and so on [14:34:54] i just upgrade mw 1.16 to 1.20.2 and somehow math is broken. when i got tags, everything is at latest version and so on - i got this error while saving: �MathRenderer::_writeDBentry�. Database error �1048: Column 'math_outputhash' cannot be null (localhost)�. [14:35:07] google does not help - plus i did not found anything in the bugzilla ;( [14:35:13] i feel lost ^^ [14:36:10] uploading error: failed to open stream: Permission denied in /home/rcnwww/wiki/htdocs/includes/filebackend/lockmanager/FSLockManager.php on line 123 (ownership plus rights are set correct) [14:36:26] sounds like a file permission problem [14:36:36] well no, sorry. [14:37:04] for testing i have set 777 [14:37:06] then i have no idea, sorry [14:37:13] Niktator: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Configuring_file_uploads#Check_directory_security [14:37:32] Niktator: 777 may not be sufficient if you are running SE linux. [14:37:38] if that isn't it, I have no idea [14:38:19] oh wait, i got no upload folder [14:38:21] just images [14:39:20] got 755 again [14:40:13] ah, debug helps [14:40:28] he claims he can`t create: mwstore://local-backend/local-public/0/06 [14:42:05] New patchset: Hashar; "skip $IP, does not use $wg prefix nor is camelcase" [mediawiki/tools/codesniffer] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39577 [14:42:53] Change merged: Hashar; [mediawiki/tools/codesniffer] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39577 [14:44:37] 03(NEW) Special:CreateItem shows as usable when users can not use it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43298 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; () [14:45:41] 03(mod) Add Javanese font to WebFonts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39381 +comment (10Dereckson) [14:46:38] 03(mod) CodeEditor extension documentation page needs screenshots/demo site - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39330 normal->15enhancement (10Andre Klapper) [14:47:32] 03(mod) Search button uses deprecated attributes width and height - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39521 +easy (10Andre Klapper) [14:47:34] 03(mod) Code quality issues (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/700 (10Andre Klapper) [14:50:08] fixed uploading by clearing the cache o_0 [14:50:13] makes no sense at all. [14:51:32] 03(mod) Running parser test files with phpunit.php should behave like running them with parserTests.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39473 (10Andre Klapper) [14:51:36] 03(mod) Impossible to add articles starting with lower case letter during parser tests using "!!article" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39461 (10Andre Klapper) [14:52:29] 03(mod) [Planet] Unicode author names - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39724 (10Andre Klapper) [14:54:18] 03(mod) Cannot search with chinese characters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39739 +i18n (10Andre Klapper) [14:55:07] 03(mod) Namespace configuration for ur.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42156 (10Andre Klapper) [14:56:44] New review: Anomie; "Ok, let's do this." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/38536 [14:56:49] Change abandoned: Anomie; "Abandon in favor of Ic41d03fc. Since no one else seems interested in reviewing either one." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33730 [14:57:57] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "oh, i totally forgot about this one, sorry!" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33730 [14:58:08] 03(mod) Shy buttons in ULS due to Telugu webfont with unusual line height - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42439 summary (10Andre Klapper) [14:59:30] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/38536 [14:59:41] 03(mod) Categorize {{#babel}} on sv-wikt - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42288 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [14:59:46] New review: Cmcmahon; "good catch. fix IE10 test" [qa/browsertests] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39574 [15:00:46] just want to report that switch db to sqlite from mysql solved my "" is not a valid magic word for "speciale" [15:02:37] babel, that's unlikely - maybe just stuck cache got purged in process [15:05:20] MaxSem: i don't think so. the mysql are updated from very old mediawiki (i think about for 6-7 years now) and have a mixture from latin/utf-8/bin charsets. and after reading http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Thread:Project:Support_desk/UTF8_Problem_with_update_from_1.16_to_1.17 i give the mysql -> sqlite conversion a try and it worked. i previously restartet the server (debian squeeze) since there a kernel update pending and restarted firefox. [15:06:06] 03(mod) [Regression] All query pages (maintenance reports) updates are broken since 1.21wmf3 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42152 +comment (10Dennis C. During) [15:08:56] 03(mod) toolbar shouldn't appear in view source - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39577 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [15:09:12] 03(mod) Toolbar shouldn't appear in view source if page is protected - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39577 summary (10Andre Klapper) [15:09:21] 03(mod) Do not show option to "Leave a redirect behind" if moving a JS or CSS page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43277 +comment (10the wub) [15:09:22] 03(mod) ContentHandler's inability to create redirects for certain content models should be reflected in the UI - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42915 +comment (10the wub) [15:10:04] 03(mod) Indicate current JobQueue delay by exposing oldest job_timestamp through API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43287 +comment (10Richard Guk) [15:10:08] New patchset: Hashar; "misc style fix" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39581 [15:10:52] New review: Cmcmahon; "maintenance" [qa/browsertests] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39547 [15:10:52] Change merged: Cmcmahon; [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39547 [15:11:40] New review: Cmcmahon; "IE10 fix, doesn't hurt in other browsers" [qa/browsertests] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39392 [15:11:40] Change merged: Cmcmahon; [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39574 [15:11:40] Change merged: Cmcmahon; [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39392 [15:11:41] 03(NEW) Curation Toolbar does not show up when I click "Review" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43299 normal; MediaWiki extensions: PageTriage; () [15:12:37] 03(mod) Curation Toolbar does not show up when I click "Review" at Special:NewPagesFeed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43299 normal->04CRIT; summary (10Sumana Harihareswara) [15:12:39] New review: Cmcmahon; "fine control over branches to be run in Jenkins" [qa/browsertests] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39390 [15:13:19] New review: Cmcmahon; "fine control over repo to use for tests" [qa/browsertests] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39386 [15:13:19] Change merged: Cmcmahon; [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39390 [15:13:19] Change merged: Cmcmahon; [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39386 [15:13:48] New review: Cmcmahon; "badges!" [qa/browsertests] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39382 [15:13:48] Change merged: Cmcmahon; [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39382 [15:13:54] 03(mod) Job queue max age - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/13786 +comment (10Richard Guk) [15:15:19] Change merged: IAlex; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39581 [15:15:41] Hey. I have a new problem ;) the thumbnails don´t working :( [15:17:00] New review: Nikerabbit; "recheck" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master); V: 0 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39539 [15:18:30] FAdm_Harrys, details? [15:19:05] what do you need?^^ [15:19:30] 03(mod) CodeEditor extension documentation page needs screenshots/demo site - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39330 15enhancement->normal; +comment (10Nemo) [15:22:11] 03(NEW) Zuul: stop voting code-review -2 on unit test failure - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43300 enhancement; Wikimedia: Testing Infrastructure; () [15:22:21] 03(mod) Zuul: stop voting code-review -2 on unit test failure - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43300 (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [15:22:56] DanielK_WMDE: the complete error message when trying to save an edit with tags somewhere: http://pastebin.com/hqei2wHc [15:23:34] edit in general works. math folder use tex and the path to texvc are given [15:23:51] New patchset: J; "add allowfullscreen to iframe embed code" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39583 [15:24:11] Niktator: the error is clear enoug, but the cause isn't. the question is why math_outputhash would be null. [15:24:23] 03(mod) Fatal error: Call to a member function getDefaultFormat() on a non-object - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42168 +comment (10Brad Jorsch) [15:24:57] 03(mod) Undoing alias change results in loosing alias - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43285 (10Jeroen De Dauw) [15:25:04] good point ;D [15:25:04] 03(mod) Undoing alias change results in loosing alias - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43285 (10Jeroen De Dauw) [15:28:44] 03(mod) Categorize {{#babel}} on sv-wikt - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42288 +comment (10Dan Wolff) [15:31:34] 03(mod) Zuul: stop voting code-review -2 on unit test failure - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43300 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [15:33:06] New review: Alex Monk; "Something else: We might want to put this into Special:CentralAuth instead of making a new form for it." [mediawiki/extensions/CentralAuth] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39171 [15:33:53] 03(NEW) No handling for when entering the same description for an item whose label exists twice - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43301 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; () [15:35:29] 03(mod) Edit protection options in English are confusing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43272 +comment (10Niklas Laxström) [15:37:35] 03(mod) Undoing alias change results in loosing alias - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43285 +comment (10Jeroen De Dauw) [15:39:42] New patchset: IAlex; "add function in ChangesList to getTimestamp without inserting it" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35744 [15:40:16] Change merged: Anomie; [mediawiki/extensions/Scribunto] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39527 [15:40:16] Change merged: Anomie; [mediawiki/extensions/Scribunto] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36496 [15:42:03] New review: Anomie; "For the moment, I've put the new revision into a sandbox branch sandbox/anomie/ustring." [mediawiki/extensions/Scribunto] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/38013 [15:42:45] New patchset: Alex Monk; "Only show breadcrumbs if there is more than 1" [mediawiki/extensions/GeoCrumbs] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33288 [15:43:02] New review: Nikerabbit; "I think we should split the two concerns here:" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37395 [15:44:44] 03(mod) Edit protection options in English are confusing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43272 +comment (10Nemo) [15:46:16] 03(mod) Cleanup message related warning spam from WMF production - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42435 (10Andre Klapper) [15:46:17] 03(mod) Invalid message parameter: LogFormatter.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42442 (10Andre Klapper) [15:46:20] 03(mod) Invalid message parameter: ChangesList.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42443 (10Andre Klapper) [15:46:21] 03(mod) Invalid message parameter: LogFormatter.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42444 (10Andre Klapper) [15:46:43] Change merged: IAlex; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35744 [15:50:54] 03(mod) Page information for MediaWiki: messages says all users can edit and move - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43283 (10Robin Pepermans (SPQRobin)) [15:56:51] 03(mod) Curation Toolbar does not show up when I click "Review" at Special:NewPagesFeed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43299 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [15:57:11] DanielK_WMDE: http://www.mwusers.com/forums/showthread.php?14105-Cannot-edit-database-error <-- did not work out for me [15:57:23] 03(mod) More specific edit summaries for AfD nominations - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42650 (10Andre Klapper) [16:01:39] 03(mod) Undoing alias change results in loosing alias - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43285 +comment (10Jeroen De Dauw) [16:02:55] New patchset: Demon; "Ignore tests" [mediawiki/php/luasandbox] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39589 [16:03:15] 03(mod) Edit protection options in English are confusing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43272 +comment (10Niklas Laxström) [16:03:49] New review: Matmarex; "> 2) Allow gadgets etc to use the preferences system via the API without validation. This is likely ..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37395 [16:04:03] 03(mod) wbcreateclaim overwrites existing claims when revision ID is used - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43200 +comment (10Jeroen De Dauw) [16:05:48] New review: Hoo man; "Self merging as this can't cause any damage and per Alex Monk's +1" [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39501 [16:05:49] Change merged: Hoo man; [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39501 [16:06:56] New patchset: Szymon Świerkosz; "(bug 32434) API allows reblocking the user without reblock parameter." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4967 [16:09:47] New patchset: Hoo man; "Minor removal of duplicate code within the AF parser" [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39532 [16:10:37] New review: Hoo man; "Per Alex Monk" [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39532 [16:14:00] Niktator: sounds like something is *very* screwed up on your system. try running maintenance/update.php [16:14:07] if that doesn't help, revert and try again [16:15:57] New patchset: Umherirrender; "(bug 41470) Use numParams in Language::formatDuration" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37254 [16:16:47] 03(mod) Requesting a new hook to allow manipulation of image data (e.g. src attribute) before the image is rendered - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41835 +comment (10Krenair) [16:19:02] DanielK_WMDE: just wrote i tried the update [16:19:34] i think the wiki is a bit *damaged* since we were suing a bridge for vbulletin [16:19:37] actually 2 [16:19:39] New patchset: Anomie; "Allow mw.log and console to handle multiple values" [mediawiki/extensions/Scribunto] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39591 [16:20:05] but i got no clue, how to clean it up [16:23:07] New patchset: Matmarex; "(bug 40124) [DRAFT] allow non-default preferences prefixed with 'userjs-'" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37503 [16:23:43] New review: Matmarex; "PS9: rebased on most recent patchset of I18a5ffb5, fixed minor issues mentioned by Tyler." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37503 [16:26:28] New patchset: Umherirrender; "Set correct context for ImageHistoryPseudoPager" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37683 [16:30:02] 03(mod) InfoAction doesn't take namespace protection into account - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43283 summary (10Krenair) [16:31:47] 03(mod) Undoing alias change results in losing alias - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43285 summary (10Aude) [16:32:26] Change merged: Demon; [mediawiki/extensions/Scribunto] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/38549 [16:40:42] New patchset: MaxSem; "Return true" [mediawiki/extensions/GeoData] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39592 [16:40:43] New patchset: MaxSem; "solrupdate.php tweaks" [mediawiki/extensions/GeoData] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39377 [16:41:22] 03(mod) Please upload a video file to Wikimedia Commons 1.81 GB - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41823 +comment (10Krenair) [16:42:05] New patchset: Umherirrender; "(bug 42269) namespaceDupes.php has to use the interwiki cache" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34722 [16:46:09] New patchset: Demon; "Get luasandbox to compile on systems without CLOCK_REALTIME" [mediawiki/php/luasandbox] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39593 [16:47:02] Change abandoned: J; "the vendor prefix is still required in most cases" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39583 [16:48:53] New patchset: Demon; "Make sure to call parent::setUp()" [mediawiki/extensions/Scribunto] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39594 [16:50:27] 03(mod) Please upload a video file to Wikimedia Commons 1.81 GB - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41823 +comment (10Jeanne Menjoulet) [16:52:33] 03(mod) Please upload a video file to Wikimedia Commons 1.81 GB - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41823 +comment (10Krenair) [16:54:03] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39541 [16:54:03] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39542 [16:54:03] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39561 [16:54:04] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39539 [16:56:54] New patchset: Matmarex; "(bug 40124) [DRAFT] allow non-default preferences prefixed with 'userjs-'" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37503 [16:58:30] New review: Matmarex; "PS10: fixed a stupid error I discovered when testing the change manually." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37503 [17:00:48] New patchset: Siebrand; "Push the checkboxes in message list header to two columns right" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39562 [17:02:41] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39562 [17:02:52] 03(mod) Edit protection options in English are confusing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43272 (10Nemo) [17:02:54] 03(mod) Don't offer meaningless protection levels (e.g., move=autoconfirmed with moves restricted to autoconfirmed) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/16791 (10Nemo) [17:02:55] !schema [17:02:55] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Database_layout [17:05:40] 03(mod) MediaWiki:protect-level-autoconfirmed is misleading and often incorrect - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/12549 (10Nemo) [17:05:42] 03(mod) Edit protection options in English are confusing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43272 (10Nemo) [17:06:16] New patchset: Legoktm; "(bug 43228) WIP Add AbuseFilter hook for Special:EmailUser" [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39536 [17:09:17] 03(mod) Requesting a new hook to allow manipulation of image data (e.g. src attribute) before the image is rendered - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41835 +comment (10Nischay Nahata) [17:10:03] New review: Nischayn22; "Didn't test but looks good otherwise" [mediawiki/extensions/GeoCrumbs] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33288 [17:11:17] New patchset: J; "Bug 42098 - fix fullscreen api from iframes" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33339 [17:12:01] 03(NEW) [Jargon] Drop the term "autoconfirmed" from user interface - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43302 enhancement; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; () [17:12:22] 03(mod) Edit protection options in English are confusing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43272 +comment (10Nemo) [17:12:42] 03(mod) Requesting a new hook to allow manipulation of image data (e.g. src attribute) before the image is rendered - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41835 +comment (10Victor Danilchenko) [17:12:44] 03(mod) Add definitions to Special:ListGroupRights from $wgAutopromote - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/14466 (10Nemo) [17:12:45] 03(mod) Don't offer meaningless protection levels (e.g., move=autoconfirmed with moves restricted to autoconfirmed) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/16791 (10Nemo) [17:13:31] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39395 [17:13:55] 03(mod) Requesting a new hook to allow manipulation of image data (e.g. src attribute) before the image is rendered - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41835 +comment (10Krenair) [17:18:00] 03(mod) Drop the term "autoconfirmed" from user interface - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43302 summary (10Andre Klapper) [17:18:01] 03(mod) Interface messages needing rewording or documentation and other issues with existing messages (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38638 (10Andre Klapper) [17:18:21] 03(mod) Curation Toolbar does not show up when I click "Review" at Special:NewPagesFeed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43299 +comment (10Krenair) [17:19:43] 03(mod) Selecting an option, then choosing another still requires you to fill in the first option's info. Also, bad help messages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43244 +comment (10Nischay Nahata) [17:23:57] 03(mod) "This title contains some undesirable characters. Please remove them." is not helpful - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43009 +comment (10Nischay Nahata) [17:24:18] hi andre__ [17:24:20] I saw https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/39528/1/bugzilla-4.2/Bugzilla/BugMail.pm [17:24:40] I understand the hack for global CC prefs [17:24:46] But what is the rest? [17:26:38] Krenair: I gave up trying to understand it. It's "what was there before". Best to ask a followup question on http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2012-December/064799.html [17:26:57] and personally I don't mind if it gets in or not anyway... [17:27:40] New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Schema NS protection: editinterface => autoconfirmed" [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39596 [17:27:55] Change merged: Anomie; [mediawiki/extensions/Scribunto] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39594 [17:29:10] Change merged: Ori.livneh; [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39596 [17:31:25] New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Drop edit event" [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39597 [17:32:53] Change merged: Ori.livneh; [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39597 [17:37:58] andre__, done [17:39:15] New patchset: Cmcmahon; "first test for NewPagesFeed (for anon)" [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39598 [17:40:29] Krenair, thanks :) [17:42:23] hey ty, got a moment? [17:42:33] andre__: hi, how is your Thursday going? [17:43:07] sumanah, hmm, quite nice so far. Silent. :) [17:43:09] Hai sumanah [17:43:39] ty: in my note I was wondering whether anyone particularly wanted to push forward on the Tor issue [17:43:51] sumanah: I probably need to prepare the meeting in 15min a bit, plus write a longer email to Valerie about stuff in my mind that could be helpful, but that's it for today. And tomorrow I'll hopefully be with the Wikidata folks. [17:44:10] 03(mod) Links from client to non-main namespace missing namespace prefix - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43290 +comment (10Aude) [17:44:29] andre__: okay! I wanted to check in re the meeting in 15 -- we have 16 "highest" priority bugs but none that are "immediate" so I figured you could do a pass through the 16 to check whether to raise any [17:44:35] yay Wikidata visit! [17:44:57] sumanah: I don't know what that is [17:45:00] sumanah, yeah, I'll check [17:45:17] I might be mis-identifying you, ty. I'm looking for Parent4556/Tyler Romeo [17:45:19] * sumanah checks [17:45:29] I'm User:TyA [17:45:34] New review: Anomie; "Looks ok, haven't tested it." [mediawiki/php/luasandbox] (master); V: 0 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39593 [17:45:39] never mind! sorry. [17:45:40] Not that user :P [17:45:43] It's fine [17:46:09] if you also have a strong interest in privacy issues then I can talk to you about it too! Or I can leave you alone. :) [17:46:30] I most likely would be clueless on how to help [17:46:48] New review: Anomie; "Why?" [mediawiki/php/luasandbox] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39589 [17:46:55] New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Update EventLogging to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf6) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39602 [17:47:07] ok [17:47:29] btw andre__ Aaron has *2* highest-priority bugs assigned to him, which does not seem good [17:48:18] New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Update EventLogging to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf5) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39603 [17:48:43] sumanah, hmm... I think that's still okayish [17:49:12] I mildly disagree but only mildly. [17:49:18] New patchset: Cmcmahon; "no need for sleep, forgot to remove it" [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39604 [17:50:57] New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Update EventLogging to master (wmf6)" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf6) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39602 [17:51:54] Change merged: Ori.livneh; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf5) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39603 [17:54:00] 03(NEW) Make recent changes respect Wikibase Client namespace setting - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43303 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataClient; () [17:54:13] 03(mod) gitweb: grep needle is not encoded correctly when echoed back - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37655 +comment (10Chad H.) [17:54:39] 03(NEW) [Statements-ui] Implement other Property-Snak types than Property-Value Snaks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43304 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; () [17:54:54] 03(mod) [Statements-ui] Implement other Property-Snak types than Property-Value Snaks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43304 (10Daniel Werner) [17:55:02] 03(mod) [Statements-ui] Implement other Property-Snak types than Property-Value Snaks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43304 (10Daniel Werner) [17:55:08] Change abandoned: Ori.livneh; "$%!$!@#! Jenkins" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf6) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39602 [17:55:15] 03(mod) [Statements-ui] Implement other Property-Snak types than Property-Value Snaks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43304 (10Daniel Werner) [17:56:05] 03(mod) Make recent changes respect Wikibase Client namespace setting - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43303 +comment (10Aude) [17:56:11] 03(mod) Make recent changes respect Wikibase Client namespace setting - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43303 (10Aude) [17:56:26] 03(mod) Undoing alias change results in losing alias - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43285 (10tobias.gritschacher) [17:57:23] Hi, there will be a Wikimedia Mobile team office hour in #wikimedia-office - please participate:) [17:57:30] New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Update EventLogging to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf6) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39606 [17:57:40] #wikimedia-office [17:57:45] Change merged: Ori.livneh; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf6) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39606 [17:58:06] 03(mod) gerrit-wm messages for operations/mediawiki-config.git to #wikimedia-dev - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37866 +comment (10Chad H.) [17:59:12] Hello all! I was wondering if there was a way of displaying a page author's name not on the page that was authored [17:59:57] ... What? [18:00:21] Honestly... we don't even have the real concept of a single page author. [18:00:22] New review: Demon; "Well, we should find a way to ignore more files there. Most of the files there are autogenerated (ru..." [mediawiki/php/luasandbox] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39589 [18:00:49] I've got a program that queries semantic properties from a page to form an exam [18:01:02] New review: Demon; "Rephrase: we want to ignore all non-phpt files." [mediawiki/php/luasandbox] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39589 [18:01:18] My boss wants that question's author to be prominently displayed when it's displayed in the exam [18:01:51] I was afraid of that [18:01:52] Ulfr: Wise, since it's required for the licensing :) [18:02:14] <^demon> Well, if you've only really got one author {{REVISIONUSER}} would probably suffice. [18:02:14] marktraceur: No licensing involved. all content is copyleft [18:02:36] Ulfr: *which* copyleft? If it's CC-BY-*, you need to attribute the work. [18:03:02] marktraceur: Good question. I have no idea. [18:03:08] (not that it's enforced, but in the interest of following the wishes of the authour) [18:03:30] Actually... all copyleft would be the same [18:03:51] Dantman: CC-SA wouldn't! :) [18:03:54] Only PD and faux PD like DWTFYW allow you to omit attribution. [18:04:04] lol [18:04:07] Ooh, WTFPL. [18:04:10] ^_^ Course that doesn't exist [18:04:12] * Ulfr 's eyes start glazing over. [18:04:41] New patchset: Tpt; "(bug 43284) allow to work if index namespace name is composed of more than one word" [mediawiki/extensions/ProofreadPage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39607 [18:05:33] It doesn't? Wow, that's odd. [18:06:12] Sorry, drifted off there. My boss wants it displayed because people "like" it. I think attribution is covered by someone waaay better at paperwork [18:06:20] Heh. [18:09:25] ^demon: You solved it for me, thanks man [18:10:01] <^demon> Dantman: I just got someone to release their script under WTFPL the other day ;-) [18:10:30] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "(bug 42915) make MovePage aware of whether redirects are supported." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/38532 [18:24:16] New patchset: Yaron Koren; "Added "LIMIT 1" to SMW ID SELECT queries, in case of duplicate rows" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticDrilldown] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39609 [18:24:35] 03(mod) ProofreadPage tag is broken in Vietnamese localization - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43284 +patch-in-gerrit; +comment (10Tpt) [18:26:39] Change merged: Yaron Koren; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticDrilldown] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39609 [18:28:10] 03(mod) Special:BrowseData with SQL error browsing a category having filters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43260 +comment (10Yaron Koren) [18:29:47] New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Avoid use of deprecated wfMsg" [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/38818 [18:35:01] New patchset: Carlb; "Initial check-in of Special:Namespaces for MW 1.19+, after stylize.php" [mediawiki/extensions/SpecialNamespaces] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39537 [18:35:45] New patchset: Carlb; "Special:Namespaces for MW 1.19+, after stylize.php" [mediawiki/extensions/SpecialNamespaces] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39537 [18:38:53] what is the ?sonething for changing style? [18:39:31] New patchset: MarkTraceur; "(bug 37128) Add a remove icon to categories, plus style changes" [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9141 [18:39:57] ggdevelop, ... what? [18:40:07] New patchset: MarkTraceur; "(bug 37128) Add a remove icon to categories, plus style changes" [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9141 [18:40:16] New review: MarkTraceur; "Rebase" [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9141 [18:40:17] in the url u can write something to make it chose classic vector , etc [18:40:31] New review: MarkTraceur; "Addressed comments on PS4." [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9141 [18:40:37] like url?someting=vector [18:40:40] Change abandoned: Carlb; "Mixed tab/spaces still present after stylize.php, this will need to be done manually." [mediawiki/extensions/SpecialNamespaces] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39537 [18:41:52] 03(mod) Strange diff on the English Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43281 (10Krenair) [18:42:04] skin [18:42:05] ggdevelop, index.php?useskin=monobook [18:42:17] New patchset: MarkTraceur; "(bug 27316) Add option for (en|dis)abling multiple-file uploads" [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9273 [18:42:19] you can also uselang= [18:43:21] For changing the language. The code is ISO 639. We also use qqq for message docs and qqx for message names [18:43:41] 03(mod) Extension:ShortUrl has memcached keys too long - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43269 (10Krenair) [18:43:53] 03(mod) New page Special:Userinfo - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22516 (10Krenair) [18:44:23] 03(mod) Drop the term "autoconfirmed" from user interface - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43302 (10Krenair) [18:44:55] New patchset: MarkTraceur; "(bug 27316) Add option for (en|dis)abling multiple-file uploads" [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9273 [18:45:18] New review: MarkTraceur; "Addressing ori's comment" [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9273 [18:45:25] New review: MarkTraceur; "Rebase" [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9273 [18:47:30] Krinkle|detached: Have you done any work on a JavaScript time/date display library? https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16848 is getting rather stale. [18:48:01] he can't do everything :) [18:49:52] Nikerabbit: He can sure as hell try! [18:50:14] Besides he said he had some ideas, I'm still not sure if I should close this patch or just let it be a while longer. [18:50:18] 03(NEW) Mobile edit tagging is hacky - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43305 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend (Beta); () [18:50:39] 03(mod) Mobile edit tagging is hacky - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43305 (10Jon) [18:57:12] New review: Helder.wiki; "For the record: this also broke scripts such as the one which is used as a workaround for bug 708:" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30361 [18:58:22] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4967 [18:58:38] 03(mod) StripState->addItem internal error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42637 +comment (10Asaf Bartov) [18:59:06] 03(mod) StripState->addItem internal error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42637 (10Asaf Bartov) [19:06:26] New review: Anomie; "Odd, I see no extra files in there after running make test." [mediawiki/php/luasandbox] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39589 [19:08:02] robla: If that's really a Ximian t-shirt that you're wearing today: I like you! :) [19:09:52] New review: Dzahn; "RT-4121" [wikimedia/bugzilla/modifications] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39528 [19:09:52] Change merged: Dzahn; [wikimedia/bugzilla/modifications] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39528 [19:10:21] ^ woohoo [19:10:36] does that mean i can cc myself on bugs without wikibugs screaming about it? [19:10:40] lol [19:10:52] New patchset: Demon; "Removing wikidiff2 from submodules" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf6) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39610 [19:11:02] <^demon> Reedy: ^ [19:11:44] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf6) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39610 [19:11:48] New patchset: MaxSem; "solrupdate.php tweaks" [mediawiki/extensions/GeoData] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39377 [19:12:05] New patchset: MaxSem; "Return true" [mediawiki/extensions/GeoData] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39592 [19:13:03] New patchset: Demon; "Remove wikidiff2 from future wmf branches" [mediawiki/tools/release] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39611 [19:13:08] <^demon> And ^ [19:15:44] Change merged: IAlex; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37254 [19:16:25] 03(mod) $lang->formatDuration() does not convert to user language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41470 +comment (10Alexandre Emsenhuber [IAlex]) [19:17:31] Change merged: MaxSem; [mediawiki/tools/release] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39611 [19:21:16] New patchset: IAlex; "Set correct context for ImageHistoryPseudoPager" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37683 [19:21:53] 03(NEW) Warn when user selects resolved later (deprecated option) using JavaScript - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43306 normal; Wikimedia: Bugzilla; () [19:23:09] Reedy: got an opinion on BugMail.pm ? [19:23:19] like i am asked to reapply a patch ..but [19:23:31] andre__: hi? [19:24:07] New patchset: Matthias Mullie; "Refactor AFT backend" [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24264 [19:24:26] mutante, hi [19:25:28] andre__: hello. so i saw you put the BugMail.pm in gerrit in 4.2.. cool! ..but ... [19:25:44] mutante, but? [19:25:44] i merged it and the file in 4.0 and 4.2 in the repo are identical .. so far so good [19:25:47] 03(mod) StripState->addItem internal error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42637 +comment (10Chad H.) [19:25:57] but if i diff them to what is on the server there is a much bigger diff [19:26:04] http://kaulen.wikimedia.org/bugmail.txt [19:26:15] mutante, argh argh argh [19:26:21] how long does it take categories to update? changed a few pages to different categories but the cat pages aren't showing the new page lists [19:26:26] do we still want to put that file on the server and replace it... [19:26:41] or is this because bugzilla itself changed BugMail.pm between 4.0 and 4.2 that much [19:26:51] mutante, okay, in that case I'd prefer to take a close look first (though I'm not sure if I'll understand it) [19:26:59] should i just put the existing file from prod somewhere else? [19:27:00] I'd really have to compare to upstream code, don't know by heart [19:27:08] but where..hmm [19:27:48] i could overwrite the one in 4.2 [19:28:00] and leave the one in 4.0 as it is.. it seems correct in a way [19:28:11] then you can diff them both from the repo [19:28:11] mutante, I got to leave unfortunately right now (sorry), so let's see tomorrow [19:28:15] sounds good [19:28:21] andre__: ok [19:29:56] <^demon> andre__: This is the full patch: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/85353 [19:30:09] <^demon> Even if line numbers don't line up, the same premise should apply. [19:30:20] <^demon> (Other than comments, it's a one-line fix) [19:34:40] New patchset: Raimond Spekking; "[Articlefeedbackv5] Add new message key to ignore" [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39612 [19:36:18] Change merged: IAlex; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37683 [19:38:27] 03(mod) Add "show new changes starting from" links to Watchlist and Newpages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/4903 +comment (10Eran Roz) [19:38:37] hmm, think I see my problem...we're setting the categories based on info pulled from bugzilla, which means categories are changed without actually saving the pages, which I guess is what triggers the category list to update [19:38:54] don't suppose there's any easy way to change that without digging around in the hooks [19:39:39] New review: Aaron Schulz; "Such a patch should also solve https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13438. Can TMH use maj..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35139 [19:40:06] New patchset: Dzahn; "bz mods - put the BugMail.pm from production into 4.2 directory" [wikimedia/bugzilla/modifications] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39613 [19:40:25] Change merged: Raimond Spekking; [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39612 [19:41:03] New review: Spage; "Thanks for stepping in, but it doesn't work. I'll return to this after deploy." [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master); V: -1 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/38818 [19:41:14] andre__: also fyi for later https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/39497/ [19:41:31] eh https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/39497/3/files/misc/bugzilla_community_metrics.sh [19:43:50] 03(mod) display problem, login problem, possible caching issue - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42452 (10mybugs.mail) [19:46:00] New review: Dzahn; "follow up to change 39528 and RT-4121" [wikimedia/bugzilla/modifications] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39613 [19:46:00] Change merged: Dzahn; [wikimedia/bugzilla/modifications] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39613 [19:47:33] New patchset: IAlex; "Improve documentation of content handler stuff" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39614 [19:49:05] New patchset: Demon; "Preparing for the big day--who's bringing the cake?" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/38655 [19:50:35] 03(mod) Remember last browser, OS setting when filing reports - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40217 +comment (10Rainer Rillke @commons.wikimedia) [19:50:45] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "[FileBackend] Improved some header related docs." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39615 [19:52:50] New patchset: Alex Monk; "(bug 18598) Maintenance script to migrate legacy Oversight data" [mediawiki/extensions/Oversight] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/18229 [19:53:11] New review: Alex Monk; "Untested." [mediawiki/extensions/Oversight] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/18229 [19:55:23] New patchset: Massaf; "Restyling GettingStarted" [mediawiki/extensions/GettingStarted] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39616 [19:59:01] 03(mod) Cache shouldDisplayMobileView for duration of request - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43280 +patch-in-gerrit; +comment (10Max Semenik) [20:00:00] New patchset: Mattflaschen; "Fix remaining issues from the first GuidedTour code review." [mediawiki/extensions/GuidedTour] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39182 [20:00:38] New patchset: Massaf; "Restyling GettingStarted" [mediawiki/extensions/GettingStarted] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39616 [20:00:43] 03(NEW) LogFormatterTest obliterates extension l10n cache, breaks later tests - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43307 normal; MediaWiki: Unit tests; () [20:01:00] New review: Mattflaschen; "Please review this now. It is the next one I'd like to go in." [mediawiki/extensions/GuidedTour] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39182 [20:01:04] New patchset: Anomie; "(bug 43307) L10n recache needed in LogFormatterTest::tearDown" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39618 [20:01:17] 03(mod) LogFormatterTest obliterates extension l10n cache, breaks later tests - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43307 +patch-in-gerrit; +comment (10Brad Jorsch) [20:01:31] 03(mod) Warn when user selects resolved later (deprecated option) using JavaScript - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43306 +patch (10Rainer Rillke @commons.wikimedia) [20:02:24] New patchset: Massaf; "Restyling GettingStarted" [mediawiki/extensions/GettingStarted] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39616 [20:10:27] New patchset: Raimond Spekking; "Re-sort languages" [mediawiki/extensions/SecureSessions] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39619 [20:11:31] Change merged: Raimond Spekking; [mediawiki/extensions/SecureSessions] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39619 [20:17:25] 03(mod) Special:GettingStarted: "How to help" box is outside the page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43181 +comment (10Munaf Assaf) [20:17:35] New patchset: Spage; "Much of new event logging." [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39370 [20:18:38] New review: Spage; "If wgTitle is ever null and the JS breaks then u owe me $5." [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39370 [20:23:23] New review: Spage; "Fails rebase, maybe due to Matt's Ie4b7793d3e185d54a41e5c8f0a845ba5c65e2e33, so you may want to hold..." [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39370 [20:25:00] mistä kaupsta? [20:25:19] New review: Hoo man; "Thanks Raimond for the i18n review." [mediawiki/extensions/CentralAuth] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/38895 [20:32:19] New patchset: Massaf; "Restyling GettingStarted" [mediawiki/extensions/GettingStarted] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39616 [20:34:51] New patchset: Cmcmahon; "fixing whitespace and format" [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39621 [20:35:35] New review: Anomie; "Well, crap. Why did Gerrit do that?" [mediawiki/extensions/Scribunto] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36496 [20:36:43] New review: Mattflaschen; "See comments on patch set 3." [mediawiki/extensions/GettingStarted] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39616 [20:36:51] New review: Anomie; "Well, crap. Why did Gerrit do that?" [mediawiki/extensions/Scribunto] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39527 [20:37:06] haha [20:37:30] hey guys quick question. anyone know the size of current wikipedia with images? [20:37:39] everything i found was <2008 [20:38:18] 03(mod) Please upload a video file to Wikimedia Commons 1.81 GB - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41823 +comment (10Krenair) [20:40:30] New patchset: Matthias Mullie; "Update ArticleFeedbackv5 to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf6) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39625 [20:40:46] does anyone know the size of current en-wiki with images? [20:40:54] hello, I my MediaWiki:common.css I want to have [20:40:55] approximatly [20:40:56] body { background:lightblue; } [20:40:57] @media print { body { background:white; } } [20:40:59] but @media print appears not to work. Any idea, how I can achieve my goal (different backgrounds screen and print) [20:41:32] Change merged: Matthias Mullie; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf6) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39625 [20:41:50] I cannot mark articles patrolled on my wiki anymore. Is this a known bug? version 1.20.1 [20:42:36] New patchset: Spage; "Much of new event logging." [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39370 [20:42:51] Tibco: the text of current versions only of all pages, heavily compressed, is 17.2 GB. [20:42:58] New review: J; "should be possible to rework this, could you post the result of this from commonswiki:" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35139 [20:43:17] Tibco: files from commons are somewhere in low terabytes, i don't know how much those used by enwiki only would be [20:43:26] Tibco: http://dumps.wikimedia.org/enwiki/20121201/ - you can download it all ;) [20:43:53] Wikinaut: there is [[mediawiki:print.css]] as well [20:44:05] ah ! ty [20:44:13] New review: Parent5446; "I have no problem with userjs- options not having validation, because they are, by nature, client-si..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37395 [20:44:17] is this new ? [20:44:20] New patchset: Raimond Spekking; "[SecureSessions] Register extension" [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39650 [20:45:26] New review: Spage; "I changed the Schema to CommunityPortal (keeping the old one), and adjusted logging. Sorry I didn't ..." [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39370 [20:46:11] MatmaRex: according to the your.org image tarballs, the images are all around ~2 terrabytes. Seems way too big...no? [20:46:13] @MatmaRex: problem solved [20:46:19] New patchset: Alex Monk; "(bug 20850) Add global_user_groups variable to AbuseFilter" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralAuth] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/38895 [20:46:22] wikibugs: i don't know, sorry [20:46:51] Tibco: i don't know what tarballs are you talking about, but they might include e.g. videos as well [20:46:58] also, commons has a lot of files. [20:47:06] not all are used on enwiki, or on any wiki, in fact [20:47:47] so..if i just wanted to use most of the images, in the least amount of space as possible...should i use just the commons images or special enwiki imges you think? [20:48:02] i dont need every single image. just the important ones [20:48:40] i don't know, sorry [20:49:12] whoops! I just disconnected randomly. sorry :( [20:49:53] New patchset: Tpt; "Move a part of the index pages related code to ProofreadIndexPage" [mediawiki/extensions/ProofreadPage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37648 [20:49:57] If i just included the commons images on my enwiki mirror..would that include most of the images? [20:50:29] sorry, i have no idea how many files are there on enwiki [20:50:37] probably most free ones are on commons [20:50:48] enwiki mostly stores the fair-use ones [20:50:59] any link to where i can download the commons images? [20:52:21] i don't know if there are any dumps available [20:52:25] these would be huge [20:52:47] ah hmm ok [20:55:25] 03(NEW) test2; IE7/IE8; Wikipedia:Sandbox error breaks UW - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43308 normal; MediaWiki extensions: UploadWizard; () [20:55:51] 03(mod) test2; IE7/IE8; Wikipedia:Sandbox error breaks UW - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43308 +comment (10Chris McMahon) [20:56:03] has anyone here used WikiX before? [20:56:16] 03(mod) test2; IE7/IE8; Wikipedia:Sandbox error breaks UW - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43308 +comment (10Chris McMahon) [20:57:23] Hello. My wiki is suddenly semi-protected. I can not edit my preferences but I can edit pages. Can anyone help me? [20:57:39] Change merged: awjrichards; [mediawiki/extensions/GeoData] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39377 [20:58:50] 03(mod) test2; IE7/IE8; Wikipedia:Sandbox error breaks UW - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43308 (10Chris McMahon) [20:59:46] HelgeH: please elaborate. What do you mean by "I can not edit my preferences"? [20:59:58] New patchset: Nikerabbit; "Bufixes to BundleCreater and config update" [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39651 [21:00:25] Tibco: some info http://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Wikimedia_Commons [21:00:35] Change merged: Demon; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39618 [21:01:04] Vulpix: I can not for example change my language or my sex. [21:01:48] saper: thanks! [21:01:52] saper: ill check it out [21:02:45] HelgeH: I mean, what prevents you from changing that? [21:05:18] Vulpix: I try to change language to English, and press "Save" (has only Norwegian), the wiki says "saved ok"in green at the top, but labels are still in Norwegian [21:05:27] 03(mod) Add Javanese font to WebFonts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39381 +comment (10Dereckson) [21:06:07] Vulpix: No errormessages . I'm on version 1.20.1 [21:06:20] HelgeH: and if you go to preferences again, the selected language is still Norwegian? [21:06:28] Vulpix: yes [21:11:07] HelgeH: try disabling all extensions to see if it's a problem with one of them [21:11:31] Does anyone here have any expereince with Wikix? [21:11:33] Change merged: Raimond Spekking; [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39650 [21:11:37] New patchset: Massaf; "Restyling GettingStarted" [mediawiki/extensions/GettingStarted] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39616 [21:14:31] New patchset: Umherirrender; "Add 'contentmodel' and 'contentformat' to list=deletedrevs" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31060 [21:16:37] New review: Hoo man; "Maybe we should add hooks to AbuseFilter::generateUserVars and alike functions. That would be a much..." [mediawiki/extensions/CentralAuth] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/38895 [21:17:07] 03(mod) Project namespace's (i.e. "Wikipedia") transliteration done wrong - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41350 -shellpolicy +patch-in-gerrit +shell; +comment (10Dereckson) [21:17:15] Does anyone know how to import/turn a .ZIM file to be able to be used by a server? [21:19:06] Vulpix: even with all extensions disabled I can not change my language preference. [21:19:12] hi Tibco - you might want to email the offline-l list [21:19:54] sumanah: I'm not sure what that is, where could i find out more? [21:20:19] !lists | Tibco [21:20:19] Tibco : mediawiki-l and wikitech-l are the primary mailing lists for MediaWiki-related issues. See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mailing_lists for details. [21:20:38] hi sDrewth, how are you? [21:20:42] New patchset: Alex Monk; "(bug 20850) Add global_user_groups variable to AbuseFilter" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralAuth] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/38895 [21:20:42] ok, thanks guys. I'll check it out [21:20:55] good luck Tibco [21:20:57] Change merged: Ori.livneh; [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39370 [21:21:01] the offline-l list knows more about ZIM files [21:21:53] 03(mod) Categorize {{#babel}} on sv-wikt - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42288 -shellpolicy +shell; +comment (10Dereckson) [21:26:51] Is there a debug log I can turn on in Mediawiki 1.20.1? [21:27:18] !debug | HelgeH [21:27:18] HelgeH : For information on debugging (including viewing errors), see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:How_to_debug . A list of related configuration variables is at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Configuration_settings#Debug.2Flogging [21:27:34] sumanah: asleep, in pre-Xmas mode, and not actually here [21:27:44] ok :) [21:27:49] happy holidays [21:28:05] meh! Xmas! hate it [21:28:14] HelgeH: wait, you said 1.20.1? that was an issue that was fixed on 1.20.2. Please upgrade [21:28:24] sumanah: I just spent 15 minutes or so looking for this page https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/New_repositories from mw.org front page (Tried search also) [21:29:04] Nikerabbit: did search weirdly break for you? I am not sure whether I've been running into similar issues recently [21:29:16] it's one of those "wait, is that all in my head?" areas [21:30:11] Vulpix: The releasenote does not mention any such errors :( [21:30:14] New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Update Extension:E3Experiments to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf6) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39683 [21:30:52] sDrewth: I can rescind my well wishes if they grate on you :) [21:32:07] Vulpix: starting the upgrade process with a backup now [21:33:20] Change merged: Ori.livneh; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf6) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39683 [21:36:54] New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Update GettingStarted to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf6) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39685 [21:39:58] HelgeH: just FYI, it was bug 42592: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42592 [21:40:21] Change merged: Ori.livneh; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf6) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39685 [21:41:59] Ryan_Lane: are there also three roots on-staff that understand that some people might actually prefer SVN over git? [21:42:31] people who prefer svn are more than happy to manage their own svn hosting [21:42:44] perhaps within an SVN project in Labs? [21:42:49] indeed [21:42:54] but WMF isn't hosting svn any more [21:43:00] 03(mod) Warn when user selects resolved later (deprecated option) using JavaScript - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43306 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [21:43:01] (not for new repositories) [21:43:05] indeed [21:43:11] and eventually not for old ones ;) [21:43:13] Ryan_Lane: sure, but that is what DaB. meant with 'roots with understanding for user problems' :-) [21:43:21] (typical example) [21:43:25] 03(mod) Warn when user selects resolved later (deprecated option) using JavaScript - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43306 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [21:43:33] (and all SVN access will be read-only starting around July 2013) [21:43:34] as valhallasw may already know. [21:43:35] we don't plan on setting up an exact clone of toolserver [21:44:28] I understand that. [21:44:41] valhallasw: Instead of asking the technologists to understand users' preferences and needs, I think the model will be that there will be a product management-type-person (almost certainly me) who does that, and technologists will be tech support [21:44:45] sumanah: uhh…so pywikipedia will have to move to git before then? i didnt see anything about that on the ML.... [21:44:46] and building [21:44:56] legoktm: it was on the mailing list around March [21:45:09] oh, must have missed it then [21:45:30] anything that is not in gerrit or github is totally invisible to wmf/mw dev community I'd say, even some parts that are in gerrit or github are - they don't get any review, publicity or translation support [21:45:33] legoktm: we might actually be moving to github instead, as it has svn support [21:45:47] github has svn support/ [21:45:52] Ryan_Lane: using git-svn yes [21:45:54] or do you mean google code? [21:45:59] Nikerabbit: half of the toolserver /is/ invisible, but even invisible stuff can be damn useful [21:46:03] you cant use git-svn with gerrit though [21:46:09] github has /built-in/ svn support [21:46:10] sumanah: are going to be the spof then? :( [21:46:19] 03(mod) Warn when user selects resolved later (deprecated option) using JavaScript - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43306 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [21:46:21] valhallasw: that would make sense to me [21:46:23] so it's fully server-side [21:46:36] really don't understand why people want to continue using svn. it's so crappy :D [21:46:43] saper: better a single point of failure than nearly no one doing it :( [21:46:43] valhallasw: if it is useful it should not be invisible and enjoy the benefits listed above [21:47:23] Nikerabbit: sumana's comment is also relevant here :-) [21:47:33] Ryan_Lane: except if you dont have the time to switch to something new, and svn isnt broken, there is no reason to move [21:47:37] sumanah: I hope it could be made more distributed; we (WMPL) will be talking to WMDE and hopefully WMF to discuss toolserver plans in more detail, hope to propose some steps in January. [21:47:48] and the SVN mental model is *much* simpler [21:47:48] saper: who within WMPL? you + other people? [21:47:54] Vulpix: I can understand that bug subject, but " Fixed backport of 60cc060 to use mDoneWrites." [21:48:01] sumanah: Wikimedia Poland, we run our own little toolserver [21:48:02] * Ryan_Lane nods [21:48:20] Doesn't WMPL have it's own toolserver of some sort? [21:48:22] saper: what do you guys do on that, btw? [21:48:25] ah [21:48:43] Ryan_Lane: mostly some bots [21:48:46] Ryan_Lane: essentially, the TS caters to a very different crowd than gerrit/labs, and the question is how to move that crowd [21:48:53] tools.wikimedia.pl [21:48:55] HelgeH: Yes, I know, the Release notes aren't very meaningful with that bug description :S [21:48:59] http://tools.wikimedia.pl/ [21:49:09] why not run those bots on labs? pl toolserver doesn't have database replication [21:49:13] and you don't move them by saying 'no, you can't have SVN, because git is superior' [21:49:17] Ryan_Lane: some bots and mw development, no DB replication of course [21:49:18] saper: many people have asked about the WM Poland toolserver and I thought it was like the WM Hungary situation, where you contributed to The Toolserver(tm) [21:49:23] (honest question, not saying you should) [21:49:53] valhallasw: we aren't saying you can't use svn [21:49:55] on github SVN: https://github.com/blog/1178-collaborating-on-github-with-subversion [21:49:57] github has /built-in/ svn support [21:49:58] ... It does? [21:50:13] valhallasw: we're saying WMF isn't going to provide SVN server support [21:50:29] Ryan_Lane: there are few reasons I think labs is an overkill for typical simple user scenario; most people running bots have issues even with basic UNIX stuff (few our ts users learned a lot in the process) [21:50:30] Ryan_Lane: i.e. it has to be maintained by someone in a labs project? [21:50:30] you guys are more than welcome to make an svn project in labs [21:50:50] ok, that makes sense [21:51:03] 'Most people' shouldn't be on Labs/TS. [21:51:34] well, I'd love to have a really simple environment for people to use, even if they aren't technical [21:51:40] that's *really* hard, though [21:51:57] New review: Mattflaschen; "See patch set 3 comments." [mediawiki/extensions/GettingStarted] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39616 [21:52:04] saper: when you say they have issues with basic UNIX stuff, could you tell me more about that? [21:52:08] the TS is the best we have for that, even though it's still quite hard for newcomers [21:52:09] yeah, but current TS is kind of close to that. Old-style shared unix host with some admins taking care of upgrades etc. [21:52:34] sumanah: like, one of the users didn't figure out "public_html" and complained his index.php is not working? [21:53:00] and this is one reason that the bots project *within* Wikimedia Labs could sort of be like that, a shared host -- with more opportunities for people to help each other. [21:53:02] (real story) [21:53:11] sure, I am willing to believe that [21:53:12] when i was getting access to WMPL toolserver i couldn't quite graps ssh keys yet ;) [21:53:18] grasp [21:53:20] * [21:53:33] I struggled with SSH keys at first [21:53:40] we ran into that when I was at the Open Computing Facility at Berkeley. There will always be some newbies who are doing legitimately interesting things and need help with the sysadmin side of things [21:53:42] A non-technical user might as well not bother trying [21:53:56] Krenair: be careful about whom you're labelling, of course :) [21:54:01] we also host a number of wordpress/postgresql/mysql stuff and plain websites on our TS, something actually forbidden on The TS [21:54:36] "non-technical" is a phrase that means very different things to different people. [21:54:44] sumanah: that's the point, we are ultimately flexible for the project needs; we even opened FTP server just for one project [21:54:45] sumanah: yes, and that's who the TS now caters to - so the question is how we can cater to those people in Labs [21:55:28] valhallasw: I would like to organize a RL meeting to discuss TS needs and future, maybe we can understand this stuff better [21:55:53] makes sense [21:55:58] saper: I think actually one of the problems is that all the discussions are about the technical part, while I think the move really is a social issue [21:55:59] so, there's an interesting project that someone from webplatform.org is doing [21:56:09] that would be helpful for the non-technical folks that want to run a bot [21:56:11] valhallasw: you hit the nail on the head! [21:56:21] it could run in labs, but wouldn't require them to know any unix at all [21:56:28] just javascript [21:56:47] Non-technical people and javascript..? [21:56:47] hopefully he'll have something demoable by amsterdam hackathon [21:56:47] valhallasw: I agree with you. Virtually anything can be implemented on labs. [21:57:09] again, I think the phrase "nontechnical people" is so widely variable as to be nearly useless [21:57:22] valhallasw: that said, I am still and will be a labs beginner for a while, not time to dig into stuff yet. [21:57:41] New patchset: Massaf; "Restyling GettingStarted" [mediawiki/extensions/GettingStarted] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39616 [21:57:46] Krenair: what would non-technical people be doing? [21:58:05] Krenair: the idea is that this would work somewhat like pywikipediabot. there would be simple pre-made bots [21:58:07] Well I doubt they'd be writing code [21:58:11] people who want to run a bot are nearly by definition at least somewhat technical; let's not compare them to your grandpa, right? there are a zillion scientific programmers who have nearly no familiarity with the command line, for instance [21:58:14] "replace this with this" [21:58:21] Oh I see, running pre-made software only... [21:58:23] "change this category to this one" [21:58:31] Krenair: no, not just pre-made [21:58:31] Krenair: many, many Windows people, for instance, write software in IDEs and don't know how to use the command line [21:58:35] perfectly technical [21:58:40] it would also have the ability to write full bots [21:58:52] but it would have an interface for pre-made ones, too [21:59:12] Ryan_Lane: I don't think that the goal is to take away responsibiity from the user by providing a polished framework and environment; I think they should grow and learn by building they own tools in a relatively stable environment using whatever they can use at the stage they are. [21:59:15] I see that as the future for the less technical folks [21:59:26] saper: indeed [21:59:36] link to the relevant tool, Ryan_Lane? [22:00:30] sumanah: it's something being built right now [22:00:31] New patchset: Mattflaschen; "Fix remaining issues from the first GuidedTour code review." [mediawiki/extensions/GuidedTour] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39182 [22:00:40] hopefully demoable by amsterdam hackathon [22:00:42] labs is a perfect tool to polish environments [22:00:47] I'm trying to convince him to go :) [22:00:49] to me [22:00:51] saper: Polish or polish? [22:00:53] 03(mod) Special:BrowseData with SQL error browsing a category having filters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43260 +comment (10Andreas Plank) [22:01:05] sumanah: polish as in shoe shine :) [22:01:07] saper: yes, labs is an infrastructure for building infrastructure [22:01:28] Ryan_Lane: and as such is too "meta" to the problem TS is solving right now [22:01:37] I totally agree [22:01:45] TS should be a project inside of labs [22:01:57] that environment should be polished into an easy to use thing [22:02:13] Labs should provide some things that are usable by all projects [22:02:14] saper: and when Ryan_Lane says "project" he means "project" as in https://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Terminology [22:02:20] like replicated databases [22:02:35] valhallasw: you may also find https://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Terminology useful [22:02:37] but for many things, they should be created in the project itself [22:02:47] I was surprised to see how good old mainframe-style batch processing fits well in non-web-related stuff people use on TS, and social acceptance of SGE seems to be pretty high [22:02:53] sumanah: yeah, I read that. it's pretty much still a black box, though [22:03:08] valhallasw: can you say more about questions you have? if you have specific questions [22:04:08] valhallasw: I understand that many people indicate that Labs seems alien, and there are some attempts like the Terminology page and https://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Move_your_bot_to_Labs and https://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Getting_Started aiming to help [22:04:18] sumanah: how do I get access to, say, the bots project? I think I'd be able to find out how, but there's just no clear guide at the moment (also not on how to run your own instances et al) [22:04:24] or maybe it is there, but I haven't been able to find it [22:04:41] compare that with https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Account_approval_process , which is two clicks away from http://toolserver.org [22:05:29] valhallasw: ok. So, please do feel free to rewrite https://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Move_your_bot_to_Labs to clarify -- right now it says "To join a project, contact the current project owners; see Help:Getting Started#Join Projects." and like the 4th short line in the page is " The Bots project: Nova Resource:Bots " [22:05:39] if "move your bot to labs" should be way more prominently linked to from https://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/ then we can do that [22:07:11] I need to add the sysadmin/netadmin membership to the projects page [22:07:19] Change merged: Ori.livneh; [mediawiki/extensions/GettingStarted] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39616 [22:07:20] then it would be clear who to ask [22:07:29] it would also be nice for projects to have a request queue [22:07:38] Ryan_Lane: that would help a lot already. Having it embedded on that help page would be even better [22:07:42] valhallasw: it is indeed not terribly straightforward right now [22:08:00] we've been working on making it easier over time [22:08:11] New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Update GettingStarted to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf6) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39695 [22:08:11] we opened self-registration for labs/gerrit last week, for instance [22:08:50] Ryan_Lane: ok, added to TODOs [22:09:00] sumanah: thanks [22:09:07] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Labs#TODO [22:09:08] Ryan_Lane: ah, cool [22:09:10] we need to host another office hours [22:09:21] to get more feedback like this [22:09:31] sumanah: in the end, I'd like to have something as simple as https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Account_approval_process for the bots project [22:09:43] yep [22:09:51] valhallasw: check https://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page which now links to the "how to move your bot from toolserver" page [22:10:14] Ryan_Lane: honestly I think a lot of the feedback already happened on toolserver-l and I just need to collate it [22:10:16] we have some request queues right now, just not one for getting access to projects: https://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Contents#Requests [22:10:38] sumanah: yeah [22:11:12] hashar: i created a ticket for a new unit test.. :) [22:11:27] New review: Ori.livneh; "CSS-only change." [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf6); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39695 [22:11:29] Change merged: Ori.livneh; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf6) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39695 [22:12:15] sumanah: yeah, especially in the end-of-september thread [22:12:22] yeah. [22:14:54] anyway, I'll try to find some time to move the nlwikibots project to labs, and to document a list of things-to-do [22:15:08] to actually rewrite that page into a step-by-step guide [22:16:37] 03(mod) Cache shouldDisplayMobileView for duration of request - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43280 +comment (10Arthur Richards) [22:16:48] 03(mod) Cache shouldDisplayMobileView for duration of request - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43280 +comment (10Arthur Richards) [22:17:25] 03(mod) InfoAction doesn't take namespace protection into account - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43283 normal->minor (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [22:17:51] thank you valhallasw [22:17:54] that's a great idea [22:18:04] valhallasw: that would be awesome. thanks [22:18:12] * sumanah valorizes valhallasw  [22:19:34] this has to be the first time I've seen someone who's not dutch or french use the word 'valorize' :-) [22:19:48] it's partly just for the wordplay of it [22:20:09] New patchset: Tim Starling; "(bug 43034) Stop bombarding PHP with signals" [mediawiki/php/luasandbox] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/38354 [22:20:18] Change merged: Tim Starling; [mediawiki/php/luasandbox] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/38354 [22:20:28] New patchset: Umherirrender; "Change default maxlength of Content::getTextForSummary from 250 to 255" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36358 [22:21:01] :-) Valorization is used as a buzzword in dutch academia to describe making money with research [22:21:10] csteipp: for tomorrow's secure coding sprint thank you for both having a phone line and a G+ hangout! [22:21:24] as well as in French academia, where it's of course not and English word but rather 'valorisation' [22:21:33] valhallasw: eek! I simply meant that I recognize and esteem your valor (bravery and merit) [22:21:44] sumanah: You're welcome. marktraceur has made me see the light :) [22:21:49] Yes, I understood that :-) Thanks [22:22:12] csteipp: Ooh! Interesting! [22:22:12] csteipp: I know Platonides has also had trouble with G+ either on a technical or moral level [22:22:32] csteipp: do you want the word spread to people outside the immediate Wikimedia community? [22:22:42] * marktraceur may try to get a VoiP thingy working for that, then, if csteipp is being amazing [22:22:52] csteipp is always amazing [22:22:59] it is a constant state [22:23:03] :) [22:23:12] his amazingness uptime is like five nines [22:23:18] sumanah: My target is MediaWiki developers, so I think I'll keep it with them at this point [22:23:20] okay [22:23:29] I'll bring my headset and my voip setup tomorrow! :) [22:23:50] Probably a good idea anyway, since I'll be on the road for the next few weeks and may need to call people. [22:24:57] New patchset: Hashar; "Cleanup to ImagePage::openShowImage()" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33116 [22:25:29] New patchset: Brion VIBBER; "Add a technical README to ZeroRatedMobileAccess, targeted at maintainers" [mediawiki/extensions/ZeroRatedMobileAccess] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39701 [22:25:40] New patchset: Brion VIBBER; "Special-case 'Kongo' -> 'Kikongo' in zero-rated landing page." [mediawiki/extensions/ZeroRatedMobileAccess] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39702 [22:25:47] brion: README, yay! [22:26:24] yeah i figured that extension shouldn't rely entirely on patrick's memory :) bus factor and all [22:27:01] Krenair: What do you think about my idea to hook up functions like AbuseFilter::generateUserVars that would be more clean than what you are currently forced to do in CA [22:27:12] New review: Brion VIBBER; "README is still incomplete on configuration, as I'm still wrapping my head around how it works. ;)" [mediawiki/extensions/ZeroRatedMobileAccess] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39701 [22:27:12] Sounds like a good idea [22:27:15] 03(mod) Cache shouldDisplayMobileView for duration of request - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43280 +comment (10Matthew Flaschen) [22:28:37] brion: how novel! [22:28:47] hm, is there anybody willing to work on a "highest major" issue with flaggedrevs? https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41832 [22:28:49] * MatmaRex kills the fun [22:29:23] "files from a foreign repo display wrong or not at all for "stable" versions of pages" [22:30:40] Krenair: That would be generateUserVars and generateTitleVars AFAIS... I'll do that tomorrow ;) [22:31:08] MatmaRex: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developers/Maintainers implies that Matthias Mullie would be good to contact. [22:31:45] hoo: Are you adding centralauth info into AbuseFilter? [22:31:46] MatmaRex: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?p=mediawiki/extensions/FlaggedRevs.git;a=shortlog implies Krenair might be interested [22:31:48] New patchset: Massaf; "Fix return to link" [mediawiki/extensions/GettingStarted] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39703 [22:31:53] 03(NEW) Add nagios check to ensure global nfs shares are shared properly from labstore1-4 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43309 normal; Wikimedia Labs: Infrastructure; () [22:32:03] csteipp: Krenair is on that, yes [22:32:10] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/38895 [22:32:16] Just the user's global groups at the moment, csteipp :) [22:32:17] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39535 [22:32:25] Change merged: Ori.livneh; [mediawiki/extensions/GettingStarted] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39703 [22:32:33] Oh, cool! I had thought about that a while back, but never got around to it :) [22:32:34] sumanah, ... it does? [22:32:52] But I'm not especially happy with the current implementation... but that's doable [22:33:06] Me neither, but it's blocked upstream [22:33:14] (in the AbuseFilter repo) [22:33:33] so there's nothing better we can do on the CA side of things yet [22:33:34] Krenair: I'm having the whole tomorrow spare, so I'll do that ;) [22:33:47] so am i [22:33:52] New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Update GettingMaster to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf6) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39704 [22:34:07] I've spent ages yesterday on trying to fix a minor flaw within the AF parser... meh [22:34:27] ori-l, gettingMaster to master? :) [22:34:31] Though I managed to fix the unit tests, next step is to convert them to phpunit [22:34:49] s/is/will be/ [22:34:57] Krenair: motion blur [22:35:10] Hm that reminds me, I can't get Jenkins to run tests on my changes to core atm [22:35:16] Should probably ask to be whitelisted.. [22:35:42] I'm not sure whether it does mine... [22:35:44] New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Update GettingStarted(!) to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf6) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39704 [22:36:50] Krenair: you are, no? https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/39310/5/layout.yaml [22:37:05] nope... [22:37:21] neither am I :D [22:37:45] Change abandoned: Cmcmahon; "(no reason)" [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39621 [22:37:50] Rather silly as I could break much more if I wanted... [22:37:53] Change abandoned: Cmcmahon; "(no reason)" [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39604 [22:38:06] Change abandoned: Cmcmahon; "(no reason)" [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39598 [22:38:07] Up-to-date list is here: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?p=integration/zuul-config.git;a=blob;f=layout.yaml;hb=HEAD#l79 [22:38:27] Change abandoned: Cmcmahon; "(no reason)" [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39315 [22:38:32] 03(mod) files from a foreign repo display wrong or not at all for "stable" versions of pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41832 +comment (10Matthias Mullie) [22:38:36] Yeah it's supposed to be a security thing [22:38:59] But I have +2 on a bunch of EE extensions which I'm pretty sure means I can get it to run stuff anyway [22:39:23] Has that been active yesterday? If so it seems like it doesn't work [22:39:31] Not that I'd send malicious code, but it does make the whitelist pretty pointless [22:39:45] New patchset: Cmcmahon; "consolidate hard to read commits to one nice commit for PageTriage" [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39705 [22:40:02] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39405 (2nd comment) [22:40:27] hoo, that's just running lint & merge checks [22:40:46] Krenair: mediawiki-core-phpunit-api ?! [22:41:15] Only on IAlex's patchset [22:41:26] Who is whitelisted [22:41:31] Krenair: Nah, it's Patch Set 1: Fails; Do not submit [22:41:37] Right before I commented recheck [22:41:46] then it only ran the lint things [22:41:50] hashar: ^ [22:43:06] hoo: yup ? :) [22:43:29] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39405 (2nd comment) [22:43:41] hashar: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39405 2nd comment (by Jenkins-bot) ... shouldn't that have been tested as I'm AFAIS not whitelisted [22:43:43] Looks like Jenkins-bot ran tests for a non-whitelisted user... [22:43:46] yeah [22:43:54] I am going to disable the whitelist system [22:45:11] +1 [22:48:56] hoo: can you try uploading a new change on mediawiki/core.git ? :-D [22:49:20] hashar: I could rebase smth. for the sake of it [22:49:27] hoo: na a new one please :-) [22:49:41] hashar: ok [22:51:01] 03(mod) Citation references are zero-indexed rather than one-indexed in target names - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43236 (10Gabriel Wicke) [22:52:39] New patchset: Hoo man; "Test change" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39706 [22:53:13] hoo: this time that worked. [22:53:42] mhm, yes [22:54:12] hoo: can you try rebasing it on top of https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/39614/ ? You should fetch the object first : git fetch https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/mediawiki/core refs/changes/14/39614/1 , then rebase the change you made on top of it : git rebase ddf601f7d31dbfa069fa9d097bb9bed9bfa00f9f [22:54:18] hoo: then resend the result [22:54:21] New patchset: Yaron Koren; "Fix - replaced "SELECT ... LIMIT 1" with "SELECT MAX" for subqueries" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticDrilldown] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39707 [22:54:34] hoo: that will be rebasing your test change on top of a change uploaded by iAlex who is whitelisted. [22:54:42] hoo: should not trigger the tests for you [22:54:48] k, doing [22:54:53] awesome [22:55:52] that would have been such a nice reason to change smth. very minor which still annoyed me... but I don't remember anything now [22:56:51] hashar: Now it asks me to push 4 commits :/ [22:57:11] oops [22:58:43] hashar: I'll do smth. else... hang on [23:00:50] Change merged: Yaron Koren; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticDrilldown] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39707 [23:01:42] I should have chosen a merged change, I guess [23:02:12] hoo: don't waste your time on it anyway :-] [23:02:23] I don't want you to get headaches cause of git rebase [23:03:28] New patchset: Hoo man; "Unit test test" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39706 [23:03:56] hashar: The parent of that one is from IAlex ;) [23:04:03] (already merged though) [23:04:58] hoo: yeah in this case filtering works :-D [23:05:00] or should be [23:05:26] New patchset: Hashar; "Unit test test" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39706 [23:06:17] That one could even be merged... that was a very minor thing that I came across some time ago (I'm a perfectionist sometimes...) [23:11:40] 03(mod) files from a foreign repo display wrong or not at all for "stable" versions of pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41832 +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [23:11:53] 03(mod) Special:BrowseData with SQL error browsing a category having filters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43260 +comment (10Yaron Koren) [23:14:07] New review: Matmarex; "Hm, you have a point, in principle. But according to Santhosh's implementation it looks to me that t..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37395 [23:16:46] is there a way to send users to a page after they create an account instead of the "Login successful" page? [23:17:25] cortexman: ori-l and the E3 team have been working on that! [23:17:25] hashar: In case you decide to keep the whitelist, it would be great if you could add me... although I don't manage to find as much time for core as I wish to [23:17:30] Change merged: Tim Starling; [mediawiki/extensions/AntiBot] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24943 [23:18:04] 03(mod) mw:extension:Listings needs to be able to override defaults for listing format and parameters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43220 (10Carl Austin Bennett) [23:18:18] marktraceur haha ok.. [23:18:31] spagewmf, cortexman; cortexman, spagewmf [23:18:45] spagewmf: is there a way to send users to a page after they create an account instead of the "Login successful" page? [23:19:09] coretexman, you can edit MediaWiki:welcomecreation-msg and invite users to go to a particular page (or have it transclude something in common with that). [23:21:34] We have an extension GettingStarted that goes further by adjusting the rest of the account creation page, and also changes the browser state so it looks like the user has gone to Special:GettingStarted rather than at the tail-end of Special:Userlogin?type=signup&action=submit [23:22:04] that's great thanks [23:29:54] spagewmf, how come the text of MediaWiki:Gettingstarted-msg is rendered so small and in grey on the Welcome to , page? [23:32:07] cortexman, the extension that implements Special:GettingStarted sends down its own CSS resources for #onboarding-eader, #onboarding-header-details, etc. [23:32:26] hoo: you can abandon https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/39706/ . Thanks ) [23:32:38] hoo: regarding whitelisting, we do not have a proper process yet. [23:32:43] Try reloading, we've been tweaking the new version just now. [23:33:09] Change restored: Hashar; "(no reason)" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/38800 [23:33:13] New patchset: Hashar; "jenkins validation (do not submit)" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/38800 [23:33:21] Change abandoned: Hoo man; "(no reason)" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39706 [23:33:26] hoo: thanks [23:33:55] hoo: you could add your Gerrit email to the file layout.yaml of integration/zuul-config [23:34:03] You're welcome... automated unit tests are great :) [23:34:14] hoo: Zuul is the software that receives event from Gerrit and trigger Jenkins jobs. [23:34:28] hoo: then you can ask the cabal to +1 your proposal :-] [23:34:36] I think that will be a good enough process for now [23:35:48] spagewmf, i copied the msg from wikipedia to my wiki and see how it works now. thanks. [23:38:10] hashar: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39711 ;) [23:39:11] Added me in https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39712 [23:39:32] hoo: 'IMTrusty' :) [23:39:47] My crystal ball sees a merge conflict coming ... [23:40:28] "kinkysnugs"...another good captcha [23:40:57] 03(mod) Enhance imagescaler processes containment - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43188 +comment (10Tim Starling) [23:41:18] Change merged: Ori.livneh; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf6) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39704 [23:43:31] semantic media wiki users? can I make a complex result in an {#ask... } I want to use a property in the construction of a remote url embedded in the result table [23:43:40] New patchset: MaxSem; "Allow disabling jobs on the fly" [mediawiki/extensions/GeoData] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39713 [23:43:57] !semantic | cfedde [23:43:57] cfedde: Not many people around here use Semantic Mediawiki or the other Semantic extensions. You might try asking in #semantic-mediawiki [23:44:11] cool! [23:44:32] AaronSchulz, I have solved so many captchas testing account creation & getting started that I regularly sell my browser's wpCaptchaWord field history for $0.19 on the black market. [23:45:11] TimStarling: why would it need an order? [23:45:37] so that you know what index it's going to use, instead of letting mysql choose an index [23:47:40] looks like job_cmd_token_id [23:48:00] TimStarling: anyway, it was certainly fast when the other one was slow when using sql.php [23:48:26] hmm, though maybe my memory is sketchy [23:48:54] being faster after the load went down didn't seem to mean anything [23:49:41] it doesn't really make sense that ORDER BY job_random would cause high CPU usage [23:49:50] (e.g. the original order by job_random is fast when done by a few processes, but very slow otherwise when the table is large) [23:49:55] !hss | MaxSem [23:49:55] MaxSem: ZOMG!! http://bit.ly/2sYkfl [23:50:09] you can do that order by now and it will seem fast :) [23:50:09] maybe if there were a lot of unpurged rows... [23:50:16] 03(mod) Feedback post-edit for it.wikivoyage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43273 +comment (10Steven Walling) [23:50:25] my guess is that it had to do with churn somehow [23:50:26] 03(mod) Special:GettingStarted: "How to help" box is outside the page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43181 (10Steven Walling) [23:50:34] though nobody really knows [23:50:52] apparently when a row is deleted, it's not immediately removed from the index, it's just marked as deleted [23:51:11] so MySQL has to scan past those rows [23:51:12] New patchset: MarkTraceur; "(bug 37462) Allow "next" without completing all uploads" [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11004 [23:51:18] that's a bit recent right? [23:51:35] e.g. extended the insert buffer logic for other uses? [23:51:40] *extending [23:51:53] I don't think so [23:52:06] this is just based on some vague things domas has said in the past, I'm not an expert [23:52:12] New patchset: Hashar; "jenkins validation (do not submit)" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/38800 [23:52:43] but it would explain the issue, wouldn't it? [23:52:47] well it kind of makes sense anyway from an mvcc perspective [23:53:05] some processes reading an old snapshot would want to uses indexes one would imagine [23:53:45] yes [23:53:58] so maybe the problem only occurs when old snapshots are held open [23:54:25] maybe it explains, it certainly makes some sense that it would slow down...and there are lots of deletes [23:54:58] 03(mod) test2; IE7/IE8; Wikipedia:Sandbox error breaks UW - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43308 +comment (10Chris McMahon) [23:55:05] but OFFSET would have the same problem [23:55:23] maybe even worse [23:56:13] with job_random, it will follow the tree down to the specified random number, then it will seek forward past deleted rows until it finds a live row [23:56:40] with OFFSET, it will seek forward past approximately the same number of deleted rows [23:56:53] but from the start instead of a random location [23:57:03] New patchset: Hashar; "jenkins validation (do not submit)" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/38800 [23:57:16] hmm, but then those rows at the start will all be deleted [23:57:26] if you delete 1M rows, it will have to seek past 1M rows, right? [23:57:31] right now mysql is scanning the start or the end of the index [23:57:35] and that is fast [23:57:44] I'd imagine offsetting a few rows would not hurt much [23:58:05] (start or end due to the inequality still being there and random) [23:58:36] Krenair: hoo|away : please keep the list of Zuul email sorted alphabetically :-] [23:58:36] New review: Brion VIBBER; "looks sane :)" [mediawiki/extensions/GeoData] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39713 [23:58:36] Change merged: Brion VIBBER; [mediawiki/extensions/GeoData] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39713 [23:58:42] this is the performance problem domas was complaining about when he first talked about unpurged rows [23:59:14] we were using select * from job order by job_id limit 1 [23:59:30] then if that couldn't be used, we used a random job_id [23:59:52] but that first query was slow because there was a large number of deleted rows at the start of the job_id index