[00:12:00] <Dereckson>	 MaxSem: about the FlaggedRevs index renames patch, I merged into one transaction per table (would lead to two patches), or one unique transaction?
[00:12:07] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Link the account creation message - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42253   +patch-in-gerrit (10Techman224)
[00:13:21] <MaxSem>	 Dereckson, in principle one file could be more convenient however Asher might want to apply these patches separately. If he will want to apply them at all
[00:14:14] <Dereckson>	 I would have thought he would have done this manually, with other tools.
[00:14:15] <MaxSem>	 We discussed this with hexmode some time ago and came to conclusion that a separate schema for SQLite could be less disruptive
[00:14:35] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Siebrand; "Why does this extension have it's own jQuery? Can't it rely on the one in MediaWiki core?" [mediawiki/extensions/GuidedTour/guiders] (upgrade_jquery); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/40341
[00:15:10] <MaxSem>	 manually - yes, as this requires separate upgrades of slaves etc however schema changes on WMF are still applied with sql.php
[00:15:30] <MaxSem>	 from .sql files developers commit to version control
[00:16:44] <Dereckson>	 Ok.
[00:18:56] <Dereckson>	 The long-term cost to maintain two schemas is more expansive than a heavy update operation.
[00:19:20] <Dereckson>	 This situation were discussed last summer by the way on https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37921
[00:20:06] <Dereckson>	 Well, we still need a reply from Asher.
[00:21:21] <Aaron|home>	 Platonides: the $lowercase param in wfBaseConvert() seems kind of wonk
[00:24:10] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Kaldari; "(bug 6754) Adding __DISAMBIG__ magic word to designate disambiguation pages" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/40343
[00:25:55] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: MaxSem; "This word does nothing, probably should at least save this flag to page_props." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/40343
[00:27:21] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Kaldari; "That is done automatically by the Parser for all doubleunderscore magic words." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/40343
[00:27:43] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Matmarex; "I think that everything disambig-related should go into an extension. (Including the stuffs that hav..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/40343
[00:31:59] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Distinguish disambiguation pages from normal articles cheaply in database - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/6754  (10Andrew Dunbar)
[00:33:25] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Kaldari; "This is a much simpler solution than creating an extension, and it seems like a feature that would b..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/40343
[00:35:23] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) inherent article classification - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/18254  (10Andrew Dunbar)
[00:38:58] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Distinguish disambiguation pages from normal articles cheaply in database - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/6754  +comment (10Ryan Kaldari)
[00:41:28] <Betacommand>	 is Ryan Kaldari on IRC>
[00:42:37] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Enable MP4/H.264 transcode target support on Wikimedia's TimedMediaHandler setup - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39869  +comment (10Michael Dale)
[00:44:36] <MatmaRex>	 Betacommand: he's "kaldari" on IRC, so i guess no.
[00:48:00] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Mattflaschen; "We're not actually using this jQuery file.  This repo is a tracking fork of https://github.com/jeff-..." [mediawiki/extensions/GuidedTour/guiders] (upgrade_jquery); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/40341
[00:48:34] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Daniel Friesen; "Eh? This doesn't even seem to do anything. And we already have a way to identify disambig pages." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/40343
[00:50:47] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Distinguish disambiguation pages from normal articles cheaply in database - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/6754  +comment (10Daniel Friesen)
[00:52:36] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Extension:ShortUrl has memcached keys too long - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43269  -easy ; +comment (10Dereckson)
[00:53:38] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Distinguish disambiguation pages from normal articles cheaply in database - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/6754  +comment (10Betacommand)
[00:55:34] <Betacommand>	 Daniel Friesen should check his facts
[00:57:01] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Distinguish disambiguation pages from normal articles cheaply in database - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/6754  +comment (10Ryan Kaldari)
[00:58:27] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Kaldari; "@Daniel: Please read the previous comments. This adds a 'disambiguation' page property via the page_..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/40343
[00:58:50] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Distinguish disambiguation pages from normal articles cheaply in database - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/6754  +comment (10Betacommand)
[01:01:28] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Kaldari; "(bug 6754) Adding __DISAMBIG__ magic word to designate disambiguation pages" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/40343
[01:05:42] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Distinguish disambiguation pages from normal articles cheaply in database - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/6754  +comment (10Ryan Kaldari)
[01:18:03] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Distinguish disambiguation pages from normal articles cheaply in database - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/6754  +comment (10Platonides)
[01:18:17] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Platonides; "See my comment in the bug." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/40343
[01:20:56] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Distinguish disambiguation pages from normal articles cheaply in database - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/6754  +comment (10Ryan Kaldari)
[01:24:04] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Distinguish disambiguation pages from normal articles cheaply in database - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/6754  +comment (10Ryan Kaldari)
[01:25:53] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) abusefilter-log-detail should not be restricted to sysops per default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42012  +comment (10Robin Pepermans (SPQRobin))
[01:30:43] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Group assignment should be removed and handled in LocalSettings.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43389 minor; MediaWiki extensions: CheckUser; ()
[01:34:10] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Distinguish disambiguation pages from normal articles cheaply in database - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/6754  +comment (10Ryan Kaldari)
[01:37:24] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Kaldari; "@Platonides: Could you explain why you think the existing solution is better?" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/40343
[01:40:18] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Distinguish disambiguation pages from normal articles cheaply in database - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/6754  +comment (10Betacommand)
[01:49:54] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Distinguish disambiguation pages from normal articles cheaply in database - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/6754  +comment (10Ryan Kaldari)
[01:54:59] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Distinguish disambiguation pages from normal articles cheaply in database - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/6754  +comment (10Ryan Kaldari)
[02:24:26] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Distinguish disambiguation pages from normal articles cheaply in database - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/6754  (10MZMcBride)
[03:27:21] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Spage; "returnTo may start a task funnel; log more stuff." [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/40345
[03:28:33] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) jQuery.entityselector widget returns wrong selected entity information (label set to ID if no label) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43317  +comment (10Daniel Werner)
[03:52:16] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Distinguish disambiguation pages from normal articles cheaply in database - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/6754  +comment (10Daniel Friesen)
[04:04:49] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Krinkle; "This was attempted last year (in SVN) and broke stuff all over (cc-ing @TimStarling who caught it at..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: -1 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39839
[04:07:42] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Krinkle; "RELEASE-NOTES entries for I7761a635 (af72dd6) and I2b2ca3da (24584ca)" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/40307
[04:11:57] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Don't show "0" if rev_len is unavailable for a revision on the History page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43379  -patch-in-gerrit ; summary (10Krinkle)
[04:14:03] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Krinkle; "RELEASE-NOTES entries for I7761a635 (af72dd6) and I2b2ca3da (24584ca)" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/40307
[04:14:44] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Tim Landscheidt; "Not only does it work :-), and it's also a very slick solution, I especially like the backward compa..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/40343
[04:23:57] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Kaldari; "Adding a getProperty method to WikiPage so that it is easier to access page properties (from the page_props table)." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/40346
[04:25:45] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) phpunit-databaseless fails - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43390 normal; Wikimedia: Testing Infrastructure; ()
[04:30:22] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/40307
[04:37:32] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Distinguish disambiguation pages from normal articles cheaply in database - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/6754  +comment (10Krinkle)
[04:57:20] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Raw HTML message for invalid user name gets displayed to user - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43358  +comment (10Matthew Flaschen)
[04:57:40] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Successful lint checks override test failures - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43391 normal; Wikimedia: Testing Infrastructure; ()
[04:58:57] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Krinkle; "Does the core handling for MediaWiki:Disambiguationspage also set this" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/40343
[05:13:11] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Pastakhov; "new version 3.0.0" [mediawiki/extensions/MyVariables] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/40347
[05:13:57] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Pastakhov; [mediawiki/extensions/MyVariables] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/40347
[05:17:25] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: MZMcBride; "This changeset seems to directly work against bug 35981 ("Move Special:Disambiguations and relevant ..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/40343
[05:20:59] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Parent5446; "Ah OK. Didn't realize this had been tried before." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39839
[05:28:14] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Distinguish disambiguation pages from normal articles cheaply in database - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/6754  +comment (10Tim Landscheidt)
[05:31:15] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) 401 Unauthorized error preventing thumbnail display - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43345  +comment (10Allen Stambaugh)
[05:52:12] <gerrit-wm>	 Change abandoned: Kaldari; "need to do this differently" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/40346
[06:05:00] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Nischayn22; "Fix usage of Microsoft's translation service." [mediawiki/extensions/LiveTranslate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/40092
[06:06:03] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Nischayn22; "Adds auto translate feature." [mediawiki/extensions/LiveTranslate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/40348
[06:22:00] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Move Special:Disambiguations and relevant messages out of core to an extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35981  (10Tim Landscheidt)
[06:26:24] <gerrit-wm>	 Change abandoned: Kaldari; "No hope for this one." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/40343
[06:32:26] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Distinguish disambiguation pages from normal articles cheaply in database - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/6754  +comment (10Ryan Kaldari)
[06:43:08] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Kaldari; "Creating a new hook so that doubleunderscore (behaviour switch) magic words can be defined from Extensions (so that I can solve bug 6754 from an extension rather than from core, as requested)." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/40349
[07:05:58] <robinp>	 I am having a problem - users aren't getting added to the emailconfirmed group after confirming their email. Is there somewhere I should be looking to work out why ?
[07:06:37] <robinp>	 I have the default $wgAutoPromote
[07:07:20] <Susan>	 What emailconfirmed group?
[07:09:37] <robinp>	 the default within mediawiki
[07:09:43] <Susan>	 An implicit group?
[07:09:59] <Susan>	 I don't think an explicit group like that exists.
[07:12:26] <robinp>	 http://multiboot.info/wiki/index.php?title=Special:ListGroupRights
[07:13:51] <Susan>	 Right. It looks like you made a custom user group, then?
[07:14:04] <Susan>	 Can you paste any relevant customizations somewhere?
[07:14:14] <Susan>	 You have two bureaucrat user groups.
[07:14:22] <Susan>	 Something is a little borked in your LocalSettings.php.
[07:14:53] <Susan>	 It could be an extension, but probably not.
[07:16:13] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Firefox OS app 'nearby' view doesn't load - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43392 normal; Wikipedia App: Near by; ()
[07:17:22] <robinp>	 I'm just using the default scripts provided by go daddy - but you are probably right - they are probably borked....
[07:17:38] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Firefox OS app save pages disappear across restart - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43393 normal; Wikipedia App: Save Article; ()
[07:20:39] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Firefox OS app search bar doesn't expand to fit screen - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43394 normal; Wikipedia App: Generic; ()
[07:22:39] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Firefox OS app on Firefox for Android: hardware 'back' button closes app unexpectedly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43395 minor; Wikipedia App: Generic; ()
[07:25:23] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Firefox OS app has no share options - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43396 normal; Wikipedia App: Share; ()
[07:28:32] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Firefox OS app popup menus should use Gaia common styles - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43397 normal; Wikipedia App: Generic; ()
[07:30:05] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Firefox OS app scrolls several pixels horizontally - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43398 normal; Wikipedia App: Generic; ()
[07:34:15] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Firefox OS app should not use PHP proxy - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43399 normal; Wikipedia App: Generic; ()
[07:35:47] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Firefox OS app doesn't work offline - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43400 normal; Wikipedia App: Generic; ()
[07:40:48] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Firefox OS app: use Gaia "banner" style for lightweight "toast" notification on article save - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43401 normal; Wikipedia App: Save Article; ()
[07:42:52] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Firefox OS app 'nearby' view doesn't load - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43392  +comment (10Brion Vibber)
[07:45:38] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Firefox OS app 'nearby' view pins are invisible - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43402 normal; Wikipedia App: Near by; ()
[07:49:16] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Firefox OS app 'nearby' view pins are invisible - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43402  +comment (10Brion Vibber)
[07:52:56] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Firefox OS app 'history' rarely updates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43403 normal; Wikipedia App: History; ()
[07:53:54] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Etherpad.wmflabs.org : since end of november 2012, branch develop allows to run etherpad-lite over SSL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43404 normal; Wikimedia Labs: General; ()
[07:54:06] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Etherpad.wmflabs.org : since end of november 2012, branch develop allows to run etherpad-lite over SSL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43404  normal->15enhancement (10T. Gries)
[08:07:48] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Firefox OS-compatible version of PhoneGap-based app - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39856  +comment (10Brion Vibber)
[08:27:10] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "Made wfBaseconvert actually work with $lowercase=false." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/40350
[08:28:09] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Special:Nuke on Commons creates Error: ERR_READ_TIMEOUT, errno [No Error] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38028  +comment (10Yann Forget)
[08:29:04] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Special:Nuke on Commons creates Error: ERR_READ_TIMEOUT, errno [No Error] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38028  +comment (10Yann Forget)
[08:56:25] <petan>	 :/
[08:56:39] <petan>	 is there a way to download a snapshot in gz using terminal?
[08:56:53] <petan>	 that link which is working only in firefox like browser doesn't work in lynx
[08:56:56] <petan>	 or wget
[08:57:01] <petan>	 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?p=mediawiki/extensions/Nuke.git;a=snapshot;h=refs/heads/master;sf=tgz
[08:57:39] <petan>	 lol
[08:58:17] <petan>	 !; is when ur downloading stuff from terminal, don't forget to use quotes. Bash doesn't like URL's with special symbols
[08:58:17] <wm-bot>	 Key was added
[09:22:06] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: IAlex; "Allow setting a form message prefix in FormSpecialPage" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/40312
[09:26:01] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: IAlex; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/40312
[09:36:48] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: IAlex; "Made wfBaseconvert actually work with $lowercase=false." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/40350
[09:39:44] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: IAlex; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/40350
[09:42:10] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: IAlex; "(bug 25398) Remove upgrade1_5.php" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33980
[10:06:08] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Ori.livneh; [mediawiki/extensions/GuidedTour/guiders] (upgrade_jquery) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/40341
[10:14:38] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: IAlex; "Oh, OK, but in this case there is still the inline comment to address :)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39860
[10:22:53] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Amire80; "Add Wikidata license terms" [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaMessages] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/38906
[10:24:53] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Amire80; "(bug 42440) Fix button state when canceling" [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39152
[10:26:09] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Amire80; "(bug 24692) Make the padding support RTL languages" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39831
[10:28:30] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Amire80; "> Can't you read the dir property of parent instead of assuming everything follows body directionality?" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39831
[10:34:57] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Amire80; "Refactor interlanguage links directionality" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16610
[10:48:13] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Ori.livneh; "Can you document this hook in docs/hooks.txt?" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/40349
[10:54:44] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Block date cannot correctly displayed if the block have been changed since the block was set - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39265  +comment (10Liangent)
[10:58:00] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Wikibugs no longer report FIXED correctly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43405 normal; Wikimedia: wikibugs IRC bot; ()
[11:06:38] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Daniel Friesen; ".css('direction') on the element should work. I tested it in Firefox after eliminating all direction..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39831
[11:15:40] <aharoni>	 Dantman: Hi. About https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/39831/ - is there any advantage of using .css( 'direction' ) over $( 'body' ).hasClass( 'rtl' )? Functionality? Performance?
[11:15:58] <aharoni>	 $( 'body' ).hasClass( 'rtl' ) is the common way to do it in MW's JS.
[11:16:15] <Dantman>	 aharoni: It test the proper directionality of the element
[11:16:38] <Dantman>	 Elements on the page may have varying directionalities.
[11:17:10] <Dantman>	 The most common case being a userlang and contentlang with different directions
[11:17:24] <Dantman>	 eg: A Hebrew user visiting an English wiki
[11:17:29] <Dantman>	 or vice versa
[11:17:43] <Dantman>	 The content area and the UI will have different directionalities
[11:18:05] <Nikerabbit>	 Dantman: you know you are talking to amir, right?
[11:18:06] <Dantman>	 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page?uselang=he
[11:18:12] <aharoni>	 :)
[11:18:51] <Dantman>	 Nikerabbit: ;) amir isn't even in my mental records
[11:19:01] <aharoni>	 I'm, like, "the RTL expert", but I'm totally open to discussion about implementation details.
[11:19:54] <Dantman>	 The nice thing about .css('direction') is the native inheritance.
[11:20:25] <aharoni>	 I'm trying to think of edge cases. The direction of <body> in MW is supposed to be the same as the direction of the user's interface language, and we are talking here about an interface element.
[11:20:48] <Dantman>	 Any of JS, CSS, some extension, UW itself, etc... could simply add an element or change the lang, and this would continue to work perfectly fine.
[11:21:24] <aharoni>	 So it *may* be more robust and functionally correct to adjust the padding site according to the element itself, but I'm just trying to think whether it is really *more* correct or just the same, and whether it can break something.
[11:21:51] <aharoni>	 s/padding site/padding side/
[11:22:28] <Dantman>	 Provided UW's element lang and dir is not fu**ed up... the only possible breakage I think could happen would be browser bug related.
[11:22:47] <Dantman>	 ie: You might want to run a test case through various versions of IE, Opera, etc...
[11:24:58] <ori-l>	 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2347078/a-bug-in-ie7-body-directionrtl
[11:25:24] <ori-l>	 the behavior of the CSS property can be faulty
[11:26:15] <ori-l>	 it would suck to be married to it, IMO
[11:34:50] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Distinguish disambiguation pages from normal articles cheaply in database - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/6754  +comment (10Nemo)
[11:34:50] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Move Special:Disambiguations and relevant messages out of core to an extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35981  (10Nemo)
[11:36:52] <aharoni>	 ori-l: the css property 'direction' is used quite a lot in MW code, for better or worse. W3C suggests using the HTML attribute rather than CSS, but the reasons for this seem somewhat weak to me:
[11:37:38] <aharoni>	 They, more or less, say that CSS has this property because that was the easiest way to implement it, but it's supposed to be internal and not to be used directly.
[11:38:00] <aharoni>	 That's because direction, according to W3C, is a content property and not a design property.
[11:38:44] <aharoni>	 But the fact is that it's not a content property, but an inherent property of the language in which the element is written, so both HTML and CSS are not so good.
[11:39:15] <aharoni>	 Or rather, equally bad.
[11:41:03] <aharoni>	 It's just that there's nothing better. A better thing would be automatic deduction of dir from lang, but W3C is reluctant to do it for reasons that are also quite weak -
[11:41:22] <aharoni>	 backwards compatibility (it's hardly relevant), incomplete information about languages and writing systems (simply wrong - CLDR has it, and it's free), etc.
[11:42:36] <aharoni>	 Anyway, I guess that I can try .css( 'direction' ) here, but some thought about pros and cons is needed, and it should also be documented as a regular practice, because a lot of MW's JS code needs such things.
[11:44:28] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Move Special:Disambiguations and relevant messages out of core to an extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35981  +comment (10Nemo)
[11:44:45] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Move Special:Disambiguations and relevant messages out of core to an extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35981  (10Nemo)
[11:45:44] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Amire80; "> .css('direction') on the element should work." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39831
[11:58:59] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) make the down-arrow menu configurable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22986  (10mybugs.mail)
[12:17:02] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) [regression] CSS Selector for vector menu label is not generic enough - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43406 normal; MediaWiki: Interface; ()
[12:18:38] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) [regression] CSS Selector for vector menu label is not generic enough - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43406  (10mybugs.mail)
[12:19:51] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) [regression] CSS Selector for vector menu label is not generic enough - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43406  (10mybugs.mail)
[12:22:37] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) make the down-arrow menu configurable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22986  (10mybugs.mail)
[12:28:46] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) [regression] CSS Selector for vector menu label is not generic enough - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43406  +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[12:35:15] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Move Special:Disambiguations and relevant messages out of core to an extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35981  (10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[12:43:24] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Provide a log of actions which trigger the CAPTCHA - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41522  (10mybugs.mail)
[13:00:30] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Dereckson; "New methods to drop or rename extension index in DatabaseUpdater" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39169
[13:22:27] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Suppressed edits should not appear in Special:DeletedContributions and Special:Undelete - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/19725  (10Trijnstel)
[13:25:08] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Attempt to fix bug 35003" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/40356
[13:25:56] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Process: Call to undefined method SMWDIWikiPage::getTypeID() - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35003  +comment (10Jeroen De Dauw)
[13:29:45] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Please upload two Barack Obama's speeches to Wikimedia Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43407 normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; ()
[14:06:04] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Delete mediawiki-codereview list - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40049  +comment (10Thehelpfulone)
[14:10:08] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Wikibugs no longer report FIXED correctly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43405  +comment (10Dereckson)
[14:10:11] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) wikibugs prints (mod) instead (RESO) or (VERI) since Bugzilla 4.2 migration - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43047  +comment (10Dereckson)
[14:11:15] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) wikibugs prints (mod) instead (RESO) or (VERI) since Bugzilla 4.2 migration - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43047  (10Dereckson)
[14:11:19] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Block date cannot correctly displayed if the block have been changed since the block was set - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39265  (10Dereckson)
[14:12:20] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Arabic Wikipedia Mailing List - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42066  +comment (10Thehelpfulone)
[14:15:05] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Creation of new Wikimedia Thailand mailing list - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40784  +comment (10Thehelpfulone)
[14:18:08] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Aude; "add htmlform-no and htmlform-yes messages for generic yes-no questions" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/40357
[14:22:22] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Wikimedia-US-Cascadia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42794  +comment (10Thehelpfulone)
[14:46:55] <Krenair>	 With my new monitor I can actually see my code review dashboard without everything being forced onto new lines. But Gerrit still trims them at different lengths so it still looks silly.
[14:48:49] <Krenair>	 Also my Review Requests list almost fits onto a page!
[14:50:59] <Krenair>	 Actually it does if I press F11
[15:05:23] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Support for Opus audio format - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40193  (10deletesoftware)
[15:12:44] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Alex Monk; "trivial code style stuff mostly." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31312
[15:12:55] <petan>	 !searchlog
[15:12:55] <wm-bot>	 http://bots.wmflabs.org/~wm-bot/searchlog/
[15:17:47] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Alex Monk; "I'm honestly struggling to remember why we wanted this. I don't think it makes life much easier for ..." [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master) C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39781
[15:18:08] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Please upload two Barack Obama's speeches to Wikimedia Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43407  (10Matthew Bowker)
[15:18:14] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) UploadWizard Flickr on Wikimedia Commons should use {{Flickr source}} and {{Flickr author}} templates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43408 normal; MediaWiki extensions: UploadWizard; ()
[15:22:59] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Alex Monk; "Code looks good, though I can't test it now so no +1 yet." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31555
[15:31:11] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Alex Monk; "trivial code style stuff" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37515
[15:39:23] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Distinguish disambiguation pages from normal articles cheaply in database - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/6754  +comment (10Krinkle)
[15:39:47] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Firefox OS app search bar doesn't expand to fit screen - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43394  +comment (10Brion Vibber)
[15:41:00] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Firefox OS app scrolls several pixels horizontally - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43398  +comment (10Brion Vibber)
[15:56:16] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Amire80; "Add display and dynamic loading of warnings" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/40299
[15:56:37] <gerrit-wm>	 Change abandoned: Amire80; "Merged into Iec2c6c6c." [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39401
[16:03:45] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Firefox OS app scrolls several pixels horizontally - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43398  +comment (10Brion Vibber)
[16:15:05] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Amire80; "Minimal fix for the saving logic" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/40358
[16:25:14] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Siebrand; "Fix selector position when closing a translation row" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36909
[16:25:22] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Mobile edit tagging is hacky - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43305   +patch-in-gerrit; +comment (10Max Semenik)
[16:26:12] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/40358
[16:27:36] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Siebrand; "Per Santhosh. Using this on twn at the moment until there's a generic solution in ULS." [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master); V: 0 C: -2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36909
[16:39:20] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Use ResourceLoader for message delivery - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43409 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend; ()
[16:50:30] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Firefox OS app search bar doesn't expand to fit screen - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43394  +comment (10Brion Vibber)
[16:58:05] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Distinguish disambiguation pages from normal articles cheaply in database - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/6754  +comment (10Tim Landscheidt)
[17:16:00] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Parent5446; "(bug 41368) Added category information to InfoAction." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31555
[17:16:59] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Parent5446; "Needs documentation in doc/hooks.txt" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/40349
[17:24:23] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Firefox OS app should not use PHP proxy - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43399  +comment (10Brion Vibber)
[17:42:48] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: DaSch; "I don't think there will be a next time" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17333
[17:45:48] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Creation of strange page names - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37801  +comment (10DaSch)
[17:50:47] * Dereckson  soupire.

[17:51:18] <Dereckson>	 We would need a good coaching for DaSch. He seems a little upset by the situation.
[18:06:17] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Another Upload Request - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42427  +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[18:11:28] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Please upload two Barack Obama's speeches to Wikimedia Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43407  +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[18:55:35] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Raimond Spekking; "[MyVariables] Register extension" [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/40359
[18:56:00] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Raimond Spekking; [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/40359
[19:37:13] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Dereckson; "logs/HEAD contains other operations than commits. If you have one day another need to read this file..." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17333
[19:53:06] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Gobal use does not show up in #filelinks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43410 normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; ()
[19:58:28] <Betacommand>	 anyone know the url parameter to purge thumbnails?
[19:58:38] <Betacommand>	 !releasenotes
[20:03:21] <Krenair>	 Betacommand, action=purge?
[20:04:07] <Betacommand>	 Krenair: that doesnt always work, I thought I remember a different action to purge file thumbs
[20:04:11] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Dereckson; "[ git log last entry ]" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17333
[20:04:36] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Group assignment should be removed and handled in LocalSettings.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43389  minor->trivial; +comment (10Krenair)
[20:04:42] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Group assignment should be removed and handled in LocalSettings.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43389  (10Krenair)
[20:10:59] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Firefox OS-compatible version of PhoneGap-based app - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39856  +comment (10Brion Vibber)
[20:11:00] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Firefox OS app needs privacy and terms of use links in the footer - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42971  (10Brion Vibber)
[20:11:01] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Firefox OS app save pages disappear across restart - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43393  (10Brion Vibber)
[20:11:02] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Firefox OS app has no share options - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43396  (10Brion Vibber)
[20:11:03] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Firefox OS app popup menus should use Gaia common styles - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43397  (10Brion Vibber)
[20:11:04] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Firefox OS app doesn't work offline - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43400  (10Brion Vibber)
[20:11:07] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Firefox OS app: use Gaia "banner" style for lightweight "toast" notification on article save - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43401  (10Brion Vibber)
[20:11:08] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Firefox OS app 'history' rarely updates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43403  (10Brion Vibber)
[20:13:32] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) UNIQ issues (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/26213  (10Leonard Wallentin)
[20:13:33] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) #ask result maps with template giving UNIQ/QINU tags - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30255  (10Leonard Wallentin)
[20:16:56] <JRWR>	 Im looking for information on Sessions in mediawiki, I know in the old days making sure the UserID and Token where matching the same data in the Database, in 1.19 what do they use now? as my old session sharing tricks are not working
[20:21:03] <Betacommand>	 JRWR: what are you trying to do?
[20:22:20] <JRWR>	 Making a central auth system of sorts, right now a phpbb install of mine uses the mediawiki database for login details
[20:22:55] <JRWR>	 I would like to have session sharing on both sides, right now getting phpbb to setup the session so mediawiki can pick up on it and auto login the user
[20:23:33] <JRWR>	 but I noticed that in 1.19 that the "Token" is no longer used?
[20:37:22] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Parent5446; "Cleaned up and optimized wfBaseConvert();" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/40552
[20:38:33] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Aaron Schulz; "Yep, I noticed gmp was much faster at this." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/40552
[20:45:14] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Helder.wiki; "(bug 41522) Add new log of type "captcha"" [mediawiki/extensions/ConfirmEdit] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/40553
[20:45:43] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Aaron Schulz; "This needs unit tests." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/40552
[20:46:48] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Provide a log of actions which trigger the CAPTCHA - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41522  (10mybugs.mail)
[20:50:05] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) [Regression] Incomplete log entries: sublog missing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37714  +comment (10Krenair)
[20:58:09] <gero>	 Hello, I don't know if I hit the right channel, but what do wikipedia people use for translation? It's because I want to do a translation pastebin with a split view, versioned through a git backend. Does that exist?
[20:58:56] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Going to Special:Notifications should reset notification count - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42975  +comment (10Krenair)
[20:59:20] <Nikerabbit>	 gero: there is extension Translate but wikipedia doesn't use it
[21:00:19] <gero>	 Nikerabbit: It's not directly meant for wikis, but I figured: who else to ask
[21:04:07] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Add checkboxes for revision deletion on Special:Contributions, Special:DeletedContributions, and Special:Undelete - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/20189  summary; +comment (10Krenair)
[21:04:26] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Aude; "add htmlform-no and htmlform-yes messages for generic yes-no questions" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/40357
[21:04:40] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Messages are missing message documentation (/qqq) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43376  +comment (10[[kgh]])
[21:04:51] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Parent5446; "Will do. I'll add unit tests and maybe also a benchmark script." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/40552
[21:04:52] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) The search box's 'title' argument is "Search Wikipedia" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40910  +comment (10Krenair)
[21:06:48] <gero>	 Nikerabbit: do you maybe know if there's a channel for translators or something like that?
[21:09:02] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) ProofreadPage <pagelist> tag is broken in Vietnamese localization - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43284  +comment (10Krenair)
[21:09:58] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) InstantCommons doesn't follow redirects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36751  +comment (10Krenair)
[21:10:16] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) ProofreadPage <pagelist> tag is broken in Vietnamese localization - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43284  (10Krenair)
[21:11:11] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Special:GlobalUsage not listed on Special:Specialpages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42336  +comment (10Krenair)
[21:12:56] <Nikerabbit>	 gero: what kind of translators?
[21:13:07] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Don't serve Special:GettingStarted to mobile users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43255  +comment (10Krenair)
[21:14:03] <gero>	 Nikerabbit: ones that translate articles and stuff like that
[21:14:49] <Nikerabbit>	 perhaps translators-l mailing list
[21:14:51] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) LogFormatterTest obliterates extension l10n cache, breaks later tests - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43307  +comment (10Krenair)
[21:15:56] <gero>	 Thanks
[21:15:59] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Don't serve Special:GettingStarted to mobile users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43255  +comment (10Matthew Flaschen)
[21:17:39] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Write unit tests for LangLinkHandler - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43195  +comment (10Krenair)
[21:18:42] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Don't index pages generated by DoubleWiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31726  +comment (10Krenair)
[21:21:07] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Argument 1 passed to Wikibase\EntityContentFactory::getTitleForId() must be an instance of Wikibase\EntityId, null given - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42795  +comment (10Krenair)
[21:21:47] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: J; "dont fallback to cortado at theora.org" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/40555
[21:23:08] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Message documentation language should not be fuzzied when key is fuzzied - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42987  +comment (10Krenair)
[21:27:55] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Make Importer robust against malformed content - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42787  +comment (10Krenair)
[21:28:45] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) PHP Catchable fatal error: Argument 1 passed to Article::__construct() must be an instance of Title, null given, called in /SemanticForms/includes/SF_ParserFunctions.php on line 569 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42672  +comment (10Krenair)
[21:31:44] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) WikiEditor interface overflows out of bodyContent div - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40608  +comment (10Krenair)
[21:34:11] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Upgrades should provide a way to separate out schema changes for environments that need it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38110  +comment (10Krenair)
[21:37:21] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) message snippets in notifications should skip templates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41139  +comment (10Krenair)
[21:38:59] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Remove use of sajax - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40745  +comment (10Krenair)
[21:39:37] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) namespaceDupes.php has to use the interwiki cache - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42269  +comment (10Krenair)
[21:41:35] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Add revision links to [[mw:Special:Code]] from various places in ViewVC - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30720  +comment (10Krenair)
[21:44:10] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) ext.srf.slideshow should not use sajax - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40746  +comment (10Krenair)
[21:45:38] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Api allows reblocking the user if reblock parameter is not specified - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32434  +comment (10Krenair)
[21:47:19] <cortexman_>	 is there a page that describes mediawiki's xml format?
[21:49:02] <MatmaRex>	 cortexman: i don´t know about any, but the format itself is quite simple
[21:49:17] <MatmaRex>	 are you having problems with something in particular?
[21:49:31] <cortexman_>	 i found some http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Export
[21:49:32] <MatmaRex>	 actually, there is https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Export#Export_format
[21:49:41] <MatmaRex>	 haha, yeah, i just found it as well
[21:49:55] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Notifications from no-longer-enabled extensions which use custom formatters cause errors - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41866  +comment (10Krenair)
[21:49:59] <cortexman_>	 i'm planning to populate a wiki from scratch by creating xml and then using xml2sql 
[21:50:24] <cortexman_>	 should i just start the revision counter at 0 and increment.. and do i just compute the sha1 hashes on the wikitext
[21:50:44] <MatmaRex>	 ah
[21:50:59] <MatmaRex>	 you should start the counter at 1, 0 has special meanings in a few places
[21:51:42] <MatmaRex>	 and what sort of sha1 hashes? i never saw one in the XMl dumps
[21:52:02] <MatmaRex>	 also, consider using the API to populate the wiki, it will probably be less trouble
[21:52:03] <MatmaRex>	 !api
[21:52:04] <wm-bot>	 The MediaWiki API provides direct, high-level access to the data contained in the MediaWiki databases. Client programs should be able to use the API to login, get data, and post changes. Find out more at < https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API >. For client libraries in various languages, see < https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Client_Code >.
[21:52:20] <MatmaRex>	 you'll be able to avoid issues like these two :)
[21:52:37] <cortexman_>	 MatmaRex i used en:wp:Special:Export and it includes a sha1 hash
[21:52:49] <cortexman_>	 well i'm going to try to populate a wiki with millions of articles. 20 million to be exact
[21:53:06] <MatmaRex>	 cortexman: the sha1 hashes of article text were added pretty recently
[21:53:15] <MatmaRex>	 at most a year ago, i think
[21:53:26] <MatmaRex>	 i'm pretty sure importing will work fine without them
[21:53:37] <cortexman_>	 k awesome.. i think this is pretty straightforward. thanks
[21:53:40] <MatmaRex>	 uh, that's a lot.
[21:53:44] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Kghbln; "Amended system messages" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37870
[21:53:55] <MatmaRex>	 but if you run the importer bot at localhost, it should be reasonably fast
[21:54:21] <MatmaRex>	 (i think.)
[21:54:40] <cortexman_>	 well mwclient / pywikipediabot are pretty slow
[21:54:47] <cortexman_>	 in the grand scheme of things
[21:54:56] <cortexman_>	 xml2sql is | mysql is crazy fast
[21:55:21] <MatmaRex>	 never tried, you're probably right
[21:55:56] <MatmaRex>	 but i'm afraid you're going to end up with some data integrity issues, missing logs, and so on
[21:56:00] <MatmaRex>	 i mean, the wiki will work
[21:56:09] <MatmaRex>	 mediawiki is very fault-tolerant
[21:56:30] <cortexman_>	 yeah... i know the link tables won't be updated, but there won't be any links..those will be created later
[21:56:35] <MatmaRex>	 it might just be wonky in some dark corners ñ=
[21:56:37] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Bombarding PHP with signals every 2 milliseconds breaks things - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43034  +comment (10Krenair)
[21:56:43] <MatmaRex>	 ;)
[21:59:06] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) GoogleNewSitemap: Cannot use object of type Message as array - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42648  +comment (10Krenair)
[22:10:25] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Logged out of other wikis on login to wikimania2012 wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40036  +comment (10Krenair)
[22:12:06] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Gerrit should have a link to gitweb - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43385  +comment (10Chad H.)
[22:13:37] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Set wgContentNamespaces for hrwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40732  +comment (10Krenair)
[22:14:40] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Kghbln; "Amended system messages" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticWatchlist] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/40556
[22:35:43] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Brian Wolff; "try +2ing again." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33980
[22:35:45] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Brian Wolff; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33980
[22:36:40] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) WikiEditor interface overflows out of bodyContent div - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40608  +comment (10Isarra)
[22:38:40] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) WikiEditor interface overflows out of bodyContent div - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40608  +comment (10Krenair)
[22:43:47] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Kghbln; "Amended system messages" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticForms] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/40557
[22:51:38] <theKaramanukian>	 ping
[22:52:01] <cortexman_>	 omfg...... mediawiki installation "Could not find a suitable database driver"
[22:52:06] <cortexman_>	 spend 30 minutes trying and failing to debug
[22:52:23] <cortexman_>	 because mediawiki installer caches the fact that it couldn't find it...and you have to press restart installation. very useful caching feature i must say.
[22:52:57] <theKaramanukian>	 cortexman: that's interesting. 
[22:55:24] <giftpflanze>	 :D
[22:59:13] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Kaldari; "Creating a new hook so that doubleunderscore (behaviour switch) magic words can be defined from Extensions (so that I can solve bug 6754 from an extension rather than from core, as requested)." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/40349
[23:04:13] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Kaldari; "Creating new GetDoubleUnderscoreIDs hook" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/40349
[23:07:10] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Matmarex; "Thanks. Good luck with the extension :)" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/40349
[23:07:22] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) New import sources for sewiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43411 normal; Wikimedia: Extension setup; ()
[23:09:39] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) New import sources for sewiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43411  (10Krenair)
[23:10:26] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Distinguish disambiguation pages from normal articles cheaply in database - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/6754  +comment (10Ryan Kaldari)
[23:12:53] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) hardcoded message in code (0.2.0) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43412 normal; MediaWiki extensions: SemanticWatchlist; ()
[23:13:01] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) hardcoded message in code (0.2.0) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43412  (10[[kgh]])
[23:13:34] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) hardcoded message in code (0.2.0) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43412  +comment (10[[kgh]])
[23:16:56] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Handling of # URIs is broken in SMW (1.8.0) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43264  summary; +comment (10[[kgh]])
[23:21:04] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Special:Ask does not provide more than ~5000 results - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43296  +comment (10[[kgh]])
[23:30:12] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Creating new GetDoubleUnderscoreIDs hook" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/40349
[23:33:20] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Ori.livneh; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/40349
[23:35:20] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) multibyte problem in the body of user notification messages (0.2.0) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43413 normal; MediaWiki extensions: SemanticWatchlist; ()
[23:35:24] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) multibyte problem in the body of user notification messages (0.2.0) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43413  (10[[kgh]])
[23:36:49] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Distinguish disambiguation pages from normal articles cheaply in database - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/6754  +comment (10Ori Livneh)
[23:40:09] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticForms] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/40557
[23:40:42] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticWatchlist] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/40556
[23:41:52] <theKaramanukian>	 I want an external php file to execute when a user saves an article, so I created a hook.
[23:42:23] <theKaramanukian>	 I'm using exec() to the run the external script and it's not working. 
[23:45:35] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Marking thread read on NewMessages on iPad doesn't work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43414 normal; MediaWiki extensions: LiquidThreads; ()
[23:59:42] <Isarra>	 Is it a bad sign if I've forgotten how to use gerrit?