[00:02:26] New patchset: Siebrand; "Add explicit GENDER support for 3 messages" [mediawiki/extensions/ConfirmAccount] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41006 [00:02:47] 03(NEW) PHP Fatal moving Semantic pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43474 major; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; () [00:03:28] 03(mod) PHP Fatal moving Semantic pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43474 +comment (10Tim Quievryn) [00:04:22] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/ConfirmAccount] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41006 [00:06:32] 03(mod) PHP Fatal moving Semantic pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43474 +comment (10Tim Quievryn) [00:16:33] get help - I have a local branch (all commited) API_Versioning. I would like to push it to server but not to master or review, but rather a new branch. It fails with remote_rejected can not create new ref [00:16:51] git push gerrit API_Versioning [00:16:53] is what i did [00:17:24] 03(mod) Serve tour using module - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43225 +comment (10Matthew Flaschen) [00:17:45] Yurik: Only as extension maintainer you can AFAIK create a new branch on gerrit [00:18:01] Yurik: You can make a sandbox branch [00:18:05] New patchset: Siebrand; "Add plural on notified number of languages in log" [mediawiki/extensions/TranslationNotifications] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41007 [00:18:19] Well, I don't know about branch. But you can make a sandbox patch. [00:18:38] 03(mod) Wrong ordering of search results - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43238 (10jeblad) [00:18:48] Yurik: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Gerrit/personal_sandbox [00:19:03] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/admin/projects/Foo,branches there you can create branches... in theory [00:19:30] thanks, but i would rather have some colaboration on this [00:19:40] APIv2 is for many people :) [00:20:13] oh, you wrote a v2 API for core?! [00:20:16] Yurik: You may be able to do roughly that with topic branches....but it might not be what you want ultimately [00:20:18] 03(mod) GuidedTour should support built-in tours out of the box - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43143 summary; +comment (10Matthew Flaschen) [00:20:24] yep [00:20:52] i wrote v1, now its time for v2 :) Although i was very impressed with the editing added in between. I couldn't do it :( [00:20:53] 03(mod) GuidedTour should support built-in tours out of the box - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43143 +comment (10Matthew Flaschen) [00:21:07] Yurik: You can either push it for review and add a "WIP - Dont' merge" [00:21:15] subbu: Sorry, hoo just linked to https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/admin/projects/Foo,branches [00:21:35] subbu: So I guess for us, https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/admin/projects/mediawiki/extensions/Parsoid,branches [00:21:40] what's a topic branch and how do i create one? [00:22:10] 03(mod) Support tours defined by admins editing the wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43464 +comment (10Matthew Flaschen) [00:22:34] Yurik: It's just a way to say "This patch is about X". You can do it with git review -t or by git-reviewing in a branch named after whatever topic you want [00:22:50] hoo, marktraceur, ok ... how do you tell gerrit to push a patch to a branch or is that the wrong qn to ask? [00:23:06] marktraceur: nope, not what i want :) [00:23:34] subbu: The first positional argument to git-review (unless you're downloading with -d) will be the branch name [00:23:51] ah, ok. thanks. [00:23:56] No, actually, no conditions, the first positional argument always is [00:24:14] git push --set-upstream gerrit sandbox/yurik/API_Versioning [00:24:17] that didn't work either [00:24:19] :( [00:24:26] git-review [-r remote] [-uv] -d change [branch] [00:24:37] [hoch_m@homeserv AbuseFilter]$ git review --help [00:24:43] All git commands got --help ;) [00:25:06] New patchset: Mattflaschen; "(bug 43223) Use ResourceLoader to load custom CSS." [mediawiki/extensions/GuidedTour] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41008 [00:25:31] you think i should commit through the review?? This isn't a review-ready IMHO [00:25:41] but hey, i guess i could commit it nevertheless [00:26:02] Yurik: You want to have people to take a look... so review is the way to go [00:26:07] I guess [00:26:10] Yurik, I've created API_Versioning for you [00:26:31] thx MaxSem [00:26:57] 03(mod) Use ResourceLoaderWikiModule subclass to inject custom.css - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43223 +patch-in-gerrit +patch-need-review; +comment (10Matthew Flaschen) [00:28:24] New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Tail udplog stream and log gaps in sequence id" [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41009 [00:29:21] New patchset: Mattflaschen; "(bug 43223) Use ResourceLoader to load custom CSS." [mediawiki/extensions/GuidedTour] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41008 [00:29:32] $ git push gerrit API_Versioning [00:29:34] ! [remote rejected] API_Versioning -> API_Versioning (can not update the reference as a fast forward) [00:29:34] ok, you just typed an exclamation mark with no meaning in the channel, good job. If you want to see a list of all keys, check !botbrain [00:29:35] error: failed to push some refs to 'ssh://yurik@gerrit.wikimedia.org:29418/mediawiki/core.git' [00:29:45] sorry, i'm not a git pro yet [00:30:37] Yurik: I don't think you can push to core at all... try it with git review [00:31:30] MaxSem: what rights did you set up for that branch? [00:31:54] New patchset: Siebrand; "Add explicit GENDER support in user messages" [mediawiki/extensions/TranslationNotifications] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41010 [00:32:10] git push gerrit API_Versioning is giving me that error above [00:32:57] 03(mod) Wrong ordering of search results - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43238 +comment (10Incarus) [00:33:01] doesn't look like perms-related [00:33:23] "can not update the reference as a fast forward" [00:33:40] Mhm, probably needs rebasing... or am I wrong? [00:33:41] and in the lay person's terms? :) [00:33:56] git rebase origin/API_Versioning [00:34:51] New review: Hoo man; "-1ing for code review dashboard. Looks fine despite what Chris pointed out (untested)" [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32219 [00:35:08] probably, `git pull --all` first [00:35:25] New review: Siebrand; "Inline comment from Daniel on PS1 has not yet been addressed." [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaMessages] (master); V: 0 C: -2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/38906 [00:35:44] New patchset: Siebrand; "(bug 42440) Fix button state when canceling" [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39152 [00:36:30] 03(mod) MediaWiki interface do not take into account values of $wgRestrictionLevels other than "autoconfirmed" and "sysop" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43462 (10Opraco) [00:37:46] nope, still complains [00:39:36] 01:29:33 < Yurik> ! [remote rejected] API_Versioning -> API_Versioning (can not update the reference as a fast forward) [00:39:39] 01:29:34 < wm-bot> ok, you just typed an exclamation mark with no meaning in the channel, good job. If you want to see a list of all keys, check !botbrain [00:39:48] I see on https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wm-bot the source code is on a GitHub repo [00:39:53] New review: Siebrand; "I'm all for having an authoritative source for these descriptions. It makes life a lot easier. I've ..." [mediawiki/extensions/Configure] (master); V: 0 C: -2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/40290 [00:40:37] But the message isn't there. [00:40:46] Yurik: Still the same? After a proper rebase? [00:40:47] Where is the source code of our version? [00:41:04] hoo: yes, the rebase went ok [00:41:21] Yurik: And you rebased to the new branch not to master? [00:41:35] 03(mod) Wrong ordering of search results - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43238 (10jeblad) [00:42:39] i did this: git rebase gerrit/API_Versioning and git pull [00:43:41] sorry - git pull gerrit API_Versioning [00:44:10] mh [00:44:24] git status -- on branch API_Versioning, nothing to commit [00:44:46] Yurik: That means you already commited it locally [00:44:59] New patchset: Siebrand; "Add space between sentences" [mediawiki/extensions/OpenStackManager] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41013 [00:45:02] git allows committing locally ... and then pushing [00:45:12] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/OpenStackManager] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41013 [00:45:23] right, but git push with same params - failed because "can not update the reference as a fast forward" [00:46:38] me give up, i will do a review :( [00:47:01] New patchset: Yurik; "APIv2: handle versioned actions (e.g. action=login2)" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41014 [00:47:41] Yurik: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Thread:User_talk:%5Edemon/Something_is_missing_or_I%27m_missing_something_in_a_last_migrated_extension/reply_%282%29 ;) [00:49:01] New review: CSteipp; "Working in test for me. Looks good." [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master); V: 0 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39781 [00:49:26] its alright, i did a regular git-review. https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/41014/ [00:49:32] enjoy APIv2 :) [00:49:37] 03(mod) The search box's 'title' argument is "Search Wikipedia" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40910 (10Sumana Harihareswara) [00:49:49] there are some other items to be done - like fixing a few extensions [00:53:42] Yurik: Is it breaking backwards compatibility? :/ [00:54:09] 03(mod) update.php for Postgres creates sequences, then fails when it to rename sequences to those same names - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29635 +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [00:59:26] hoo: as little as possible :) [01:02:38] paraminfo might be broken a bit, and everything that relies on it ( api sandbox extension) [01:02:57] in other words - the self-itrospecting [01:03:35] in which file is article count update handled? i would need to know if $wgArticleCountMethod = 'any' counts redirs or not [01:03:51] 03(mod) Enhance line matching in diffs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/13462 +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [01:05:42] 03(mod) enotif doesn't send email if page on watchlist edited following a minor edit and enotif not configured to send minor edits. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27884 minor->major; +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [01:28:17] New patchset: Hoo man; "Add Permission for Global-Rule Editing" [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23509 [01:28:49] New review: Hoo man; "Minor performance thing." [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23509 [01:29:36] New review: Hoo man; "Tested, works fine... another step towards global filters :)" [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23509 [01:29:40] Change merged: Hoo man; [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23509 [01:34:40] Change merged: Ori.livneh; [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41009 [01:39:24] New review: Hoo man; "Maybe you should add a new wgAbuseFilterValidGroups?" [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39536 [01:39:54] 03(mod) TestORMRowTest::testConstructor with data set #0 (array('Foobar', 42, 9000.1, true, array(13, 11, 7, 5, 3, 2), stdClass), true) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38930 +comment (10Tim Landscheidt) [01:39:55] 03(mod) Tests introduced in tests/phpunit/includes/db/TestORMRowTest.php fail on PostgreSQL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37601 +comment (10Tim Landscheidt) [01:42:05] New patchset: Ori.livneh; "(WIP) Raw varnish log stream -> schema-validated JSON stream" [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41017 [01:44:36] 03(mod) Adding project identification variable to AbuseFilter - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41172 (10Marius Hoch) [02:06:46] 03(mod) Adding project identification variable to AbuseFilter - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41172 +comment (10Marius Hoch) [02:07:26] 03(NEW) ORMRow::insert() fails on PostgreSQL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43475 normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; () [02:07:27] 03(mod) PostgreSQL/pgsql support (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/384 (10Tim Landscheidt) [02:07:53] Change merged: Ori.livneh; [mediawiki/extensions/GuidedTour] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41008 [02:10:41] New review: Tim Landscheidt; "Testing this hinges on bug 43475. What do you think about the site_forward default setting?" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27939 [02:53:12] Hi [03:19:10] 03(NEW) Wrong MIME type for WebM videos - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43476 normal; Wikimedia: Media storage; () [03:25:21] 03(mod) make category redirects appear as italics or different colored links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/5346 (10MZMcBride) [03:25:23] 03(mod) Add a keyword for postgresql - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43459 (10MZMcBride) [03:32:18] could somebody walk me through setting up gerrit? [03:32:34] i still can't get it to work :( [03:41:24] setting it up to do what? [03:41:43] ssh into it? [03:41:55] 03(mod) Doxygen doesn't generate documentation for JavaScript resources - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40143 +comment (10Matthew Flaschen) [03:42:07] do i have to request a "submit shell access request"? [03:42:46] have you got an account already? [03:44:09] i registered with labsconsole, yeah [03:44:26] labsconsole.wikimedia.org ** [03:47:23] and you added an SSH key? [03:47:46] 03(NEW) Videos don't play in Opera - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43477 normal; MediaWiki extensions: TimedMediaHandler; () [03:48:24] if so, you should be able to log in to gerrit ssh with "ssh -p 29418 gerrit.wikimedia.org" [03:55:29] i generated an ssh key and then copied it to https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/settings/ssh-keys [03:56:02] I then entered "ssh -p 29418 gerrit.wikimedia.org" but get "Permission denied (publickey)". [03:58:52] what username did you use for SSH? [04:00:01] does it match the username that appears at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/settings/ ? [04:05:48] my user name is thai [04:06:05] and my "full name" is thaiphan [04:06:32] when i ssh with my username, i get Agent admitted failure to sign using the key. [04:06:47] my "full name" doesn't get that [04:06:59] both return Permission denied (publickey). [04:07:05] 03(mod) Doxygen doesn't generate documentation for JavaScript resources - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40143 +comment (10Matthew Flaschen) [04:09:46] Thai: if you run ssh with '-v' (so the full command is 'ssh -v -p 29418 gerrit.wikimedia.org') you should be able to see which key(s) you are offering [04:10:34] In the output, you should see something like: debug1: Offering RSA public key: /home/thai/.ssh/id_rsa [04:10:39] 03(mod) Videos don't play in Opera - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43477 +comment (10Christian Thiele) [04:11:13] yeah i see it [04:11:25] Then, assuming you are using a a unix-like system (linux, OS X, etc.) you should be able to run 'cat /home/thai/.ssh/id_rsa' [04:11:51] yeah [04:12:23] er, rather 'cat /home/thai/.ssh/id_rsa.pub' [04:12:31] yeah [04:12:35] and you should ensure that the output matches exactly what you have on gerrit [04:13:05] what is your username on gerrit? [04:13:40] yeah it's the name [04:14:02] what is your user name? [04:14:08] same** [04:14:18] the username i use to log into the gerrit website is thaiphan [04:15:30] the username mentioned in https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/settings/ is just "thai" [04:17:29] can you copy the log of your attempts to connect with each username and the -v flag and paste them in dpaste.de? [04:17:31] and post the link here? [04:17:53] New patchset: Mattflaschen; "Remove dead custom CSS import, and minor cleanup." [mediawiki/extensions/GuidedTour] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41019 [04:22:28] http://dpaste.org/9CIMS/ [04:22:32] http://dpaste.org/8fjEE/ [04:25:43] Can you paste the output of "ls -l ~/.ssh" ? [04:27:04] thai@ubuntu:~$ ls -l ~/.ssh/ total 4 -rw------- 1 thai thai 1675 Dec 28 15:03 id_rsa -rw-r--r-- 1 thai thai 404 Dec 28 15:03 id_rsa.pub -rw-r--r-- 1 thai thai 548 Dec 28 14:14 known_hosts [04:27:20] whoops, forgot about dpaste, sorry :/ [04:29:59] http://dpaste.org/p4Rw0/ [04:31:12] 03(mod) Wikivoyage: footer contains a second spurious attribution link, the same for all pages in a language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41981 (10Carl Austin Bennett) [04:34:52] Did you already have an SSH key pair before you generated your current one? [04:37:37] New patchset: Mattflaschen; "Restyle Guiders to match Agora styling" [mediawiki/extensions/GuidedTour] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39074 [04:38:11] TimStarling: if you have a sec, could you review https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/40559/ [04:38:33] it has gone through a number of reviews, hope there are no more comments :) [04:42:56] New patchset: Mattflaschen; "Remove dead custom CSS import, and minor cleanup." [mediawiki/extensions/GuidedTour] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41019 [04:43:29] PleaseStand: No, I deleted everything before I started again [04:46:24] Thai: Maybe ssh-agent still has your old key; try ssh-add ~/.ssh/id_rsa [04:47:04] SUCCESS [04:47:28] hi there PleaseStand [04:47:40] Thanks a lot PleaseStand [04:49:54] 03(mod) Fix GuidedTour i18n approach - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43144 +comment (10Matthew Flaschen) [04:50:28] 03(mod) Fix GuidedTour i18n approach - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43144 (10Matthew Flaschen) [04:52:06] 03(mod) MediaWiki treats User:WMF_Import as an IP instead of a user account - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41979 +comment (10Carl Austin Bennett) [04:53:00] New review: Tim Landscheidt; "Another thought: As the handling of boolean data is encapsulated in ORMRow, this may be a good time ..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27939 [04:54:04] paulproteus: hi, got a moment? [04:54:17] sumanah: Sure, a little bit! What's up? [04:55:44] paulproteus: I was just wondering how you & OH are doing; you're concentrating a lot on OpenHatch Comes to Campus? [04:55:53] * sumanah is gathering from the monthly reports & from the events mailing list [04:56:14] * Yurik is totally lost with the git errors :( [04:56:41] server just wouldn't accept my pushing :( [04:57:03] Yeah, a bunch of focus on that so it happens even bigger in 2013. Also we "soft launched" https://openhatch.org/wiki/Events/Affiliated and want to really try to get all the other lovely OpenHatch-y events to snuggle together more. [04:57:27] In particular, doing a women-in-CS-focused Open Source Comes to Campus series in 2013. [04:57:54] Yurik: sympathies! is the troubleshooting section of the git tutorial helpful for you? [04:57:55] !git [04:57:55] MediaWiki development is using git, a distributed source control manager, starting on March 21st, 2012; details: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git_happens Instructions for using it: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Workflow To get an account: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Labsconsole_accounts [04:58:18] i wish [04:58:36] it has something to do with git not liking non-fast-merge pushes [04:58:41] paulproteus: oh that latter idea is very exciting to me. is http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_academic_organizations_interested_in_women_in_CS helpful to you? [04:58:53] "API_Versioning -> API_Versioning (can not update the reference as a fast forward) [04:59:02] saper: ^ can you possibly help Yurik? [04:59:09] sumanah: I expect a bunch of other things, too, like more training missions and web tech updates. We haven't made a web tech plan for 2013 yet but I aim to in the next few weeks. [04:59:13] 03(NEW) "There are [numeral] errors above. Please fix and try again." (or something like that) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43478 major; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; () [04:59:14] (ah, saper is away) [04:59:38] sumanah: It is! I discovered it just a few weeks ago. [04:59:45] If I want mediawiki to be able to send emails, what do I actually have to install? [05:00:01] (I imagine an MTA or MUA?) [05:00:05] * sumanah could be wrong [05:00:09] I mean, postfix certainly worked, but it seems like... overkill. [05:00:14] Isarra: with http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgSMTP you can do it without installing anything [05:00:32] But you have to have an external SMTP server to connect to. gmail.com or fastmail.fm or the like can be that. [05:00:56] That also seems like overkill. [05:00:58] paulproteus: what's the money side looking like? [05:01:19] So it's whatever php is sending to... the sendmail hook or whatever... [05:01:27] are there other orgs that are paying you to run events or improve their FLOSS engagement ? [05:02:35] We're getting some sponsorship from companies for Open Source Comes to Campus events, and we have some personal donations. [05:02:35] 03(mod) "There are [numeral] errors above. Please fix and try again." (or something like that) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43478 (10jsayre64) [05:03:43] cool! ok, I don't want to take too much of your time paulproteus, just wanted to say hi and catch up a little [05:03:48] GIT expert needed: There is a server branch I want to push to [05:03:49] all sounds great of course [05:04:05] I'd say the money situation is looking "OK, but could be better" (: [05:04:45] i have submitted my code in a review patch, but that doesn't look good to me yet, so the simplest would be to cherry pick it into that branch and commit [05:05:04] but i keep getting that weird "branch as fast forward" error [05:05:22] when pushing [05:05:30] marktraceur: ori-l: ^ can you help Yurik? [05:05:41] thx sumanah [05:06:05] New patchset: Aude; "PostgreSQL schema update for new sites stuff" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27939 [05:06:11] * Yurik beginning to be slightly put out by git in general and gerrit in particular [05:06:21] they can be confusing. [05:06:32] understatement of the 21st century [05:07:37] New review: Aude; "Made the site_forward column boolean." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27939 [05:07:42] Yurik: given the timing, try emailing wikitech-l, sometimes you get faster help that way from people who are not on IRC [05:07:50] Yurik: Hey, I can also take a look. Can you do me a favor and use a service like http://pastebin.ca/ to show me the command you're typing and the error you're getting? [05:07:53] That would help a whole lot. [05:08:17] nah, i will first try working around it, and if not, will give up and use the git-review thing [05:08:38] Okay, cool. FWIW I do have a bunch of git experience so the chance is high I can explain and/or fix your problem. [05:08:58] git-review is a pretty great idea in general, in my opinion. I can also help with installing that if it's hard on your platform. [05:09:10] not worth writing an email because by that time either it will be resolved or reworked. but thanks!!! [05:09:38] git-review is ok, but it seems to be very much oriented towards patches [05:09:55] if i'm working on a bigger piece, it doesn't seem to apply [05:10:21] As far as I understand, it should be doable to convert a bigger thing into smaller commits, and then share those with git-review. [05:10:28] my goal - have a separate branch for a bit, push to server, do some shared dev, test on labs, and later merge with master [05:11:05] perhaps, but since all of them interrelated, and since it sometimes takes forever to merge.... [05:11:24] oh, I guess I could spam you with 2 more things, paulproteus -- one is that Leonard is working on a new book about RESTful web APIs http://www.crummy.com/2012/12/21/1 and wants people to sign up as beta readers, and another is http://jobs.wikimedia.org/ we're hoping to spread the word that WMF is hiring for Lucene, release management, Operations, & other eng roles [05:11:25] i mean you can't merge patch2 before patch1 [05:12:01] hmm... i wonder if an api person like me might be into it :) [05:12:45] Yurik: sure! please go ahead and comment or email on that blog entry [05:12:46] sumanah: you wouldn't know what the pay is like? [05:12:58] re #1 or #2? [05:12:59] Yurik: wait, did you mean the jobs or the beta reading? [05:13:01] sumanah: Do you know Shauna Gordon-McKeon? She's been helping out a bunch with the open source comes to campus event series and will probably be helping a lot in Jan/Feb/Mar/Apr, which I'm super excited about. [05:13:07] the job [05:13:10] Yurik: When you say "push to server" do you mean a WMF server, or your personal server? [05:13:11] New review: Aude; "not totally convinced about boolean here." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27939 [05:13:11] i already signed up to the book [05:13:14] wmf [05:13:19] Yurik: ok! because the beta reading -- there's no particular pay involved :) [05:13:20] ok [05:13:26] LOL [05:13:30] i figured :) [05:13:51] sumanah: Interesting! I think I can find you an interested beta reader! And perhaps also me. [05:14:44] Yurik: I work for WMF and we pay competitively, I think. http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2012-December/123180.html is some thoughts on our pay, from today even! [05:15:13] Yurik: for example, I support my spouse (Leonard, the guy writing the API book). I work, he doesn't, and we're fine [05:15:22] I live in New York City, a pretty expensive place to live [05:15:35] oh yeah? same here :) [05:15:43] paulproteus: I may have met her but I don't know (Shauna) [05:15:44] i meant - live in NYC [05:15:57] Well hopefully soonish you'll meet her and know it for sure! [05:16:01] cool! [05:16:27] Oh nice! Andrew Otto, one of our analytics people, also lives in NYC [05:16:42] as does Yaron Koren, an independent consultant who just wrote a book about MediaWiki [05:22:04] New patchset: Tim Landscheidt; "Fix ORMRow::insert() on PostgreSQL." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41020 [05:27:27] 03(mod) ORMRow::insert() fails on PostgreSQL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43475 +comment (10Tim Landscheidt) [05:28:42] is there any way to dump all users that don't have a post/login in a month? [05:29:00] New patchset: Aude; "PostgreSQL schema update for new sites stuff" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27939 [05:36:26] Hi, I just upgraded my pet project from 1.19.1 to 1.20.2 and the images brought by instantcommons are not showing up. Any ideas? [05:37:49] Fors instance, check http://espiral.org/wiki/Toda_sociedad_tiene_derecho_a_la_autodeterminaci%C3%B3n_pol%C3%ADtica [05:38:46] If you click the jpg link at http://espiral.org/wiki/Toda_sociedad_tiene_derecho_a_la_autodeterminaci%C3%B3n_pol%C3%ADtica the image appears but it doesn't show up as thumbnail in the page [05:38:54] sumanah: I am heading to bed, but nice catching up briefly and don't be a stranger (i.e. ping me all the time) on #openhatch (or anywhere)! [05:39:07] sumanah: i actually met Yaron recently, wanted to find out about symantic wiki stuff [05:39:10] (: thanks paulproteus [05:39:22] Yurik: might you come to that SMW conference in early 2013 in NYC? [05:39:32] SMW? [05:39:41] definetly [05:39:55] is that semantic mediawiki? [05:40:02] haven't seen this abrev before [05:41:03] btw, sumanah, are you involved in merging at all? https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/40559/ was all ready and willing :) [05:41:04] Yurik, look this logo :) http://semantic-mediawiki.org/ [05:41:19] qgil: hehe :) [05:41:26] should have memorized it! [05:42:18] Yurik: the only way I am involved in merging (except for incredibly trivial typofixes in comments) is to add other reviewers per https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developers/Maintainers [05:42:58] but I added 1 [05:43:06] hehe, thx! [05:43:16] back to APIv2 coding [05:43:24] more loose ends to fix [05:46:40] New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Raw varnish log -> schema-validated JSON stream" [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41017 [06:02:50] hi aharoni [06:03:01] hi [06:03:56] aharoni: how is Priyanka doing? [06:05:29] i am writing detailed comments for one of her "homework assignments" and we'll take it from there. [06:12:12] is there any way to dump all users that don't have a post/login in a month? [06:15:48] hi F0rg0tten -- I'm not sure [06:16:12] F0rg0tten: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l and https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Secretaribot and https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Anti-spam_features are good places to look [06:16:20] aharoni: oh that's good to know! best wishes [06:20:10] sumanah: I've been using $wgSpamRegex but the spam is annoying [06:52:53] New patchset: Werdna; "Add .gitreview" [mediawiki/extensions/LiquidThreads] (lqt-updates) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41021 [06:54:23] Change merged: Werdna; [mediawiki/extensions/LiquidThreads] (lqt-updates) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41021 [07:21:40] New patchset: Werdna; "LiquidThreads rewrite JS improvements: * Cut out toolbar code. Flow will use something different. * Fix bug where you could not reply to a post with existing replies. * General chopping and fixing of JSHint issues" [mediawiki/extensions/LiquidThreads] (lqt-updates) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41022 [07:22:59] New patchset: Werdna; "LiquidThreads rewrite JS improvements:" [mediawiki/extensions/LiquidThreads] (lqt-updates) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41022 [07:46:03] How do I use $parser class to replace templates in my extension? [07:50:51] How do I create a DOM object, please anyone? [07:58:54] 03(mod) Interface messages needing rewording or documentation and other issues with existing messages (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38638 (10Nemo) [07:58:54] 03(NEW) MediaWiki:Pagetriage-tags-tooltip is too negative - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43479 normal; MediaWiki extensions: PageTriage; () [08:02:13] 03(NEW) MediaWiki:Pagetriage-no-patrol-right is confusing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43480 normal; MediaWiki extensions: PageTriage; () [08:02:15] 03(mod) Interface messages needing rewording or documentation and other issues with existing messages (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38638 (10Nemo) [08:07:00] 03(NEW) Add GENDER support to MediaWiki:Moodbar-log-hide and friends - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43481 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MoodBar; () [08:07:01] 03(mod) GENDER (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30443 (10Nemo) [08:08:24] 03(NEW) Add PLURAL support to MediaWiki:Moodbar-form-note-dynamic - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43482 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MoodBar; () [08:08:25] 03(mod) Messages needing PLURAL support (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38781 (10Nemo) [08:08:34] 03(NEW) MediaWiki:Moodbar-privacy and MediaWiki:Moodbar-privacy-link use lego - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43483 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MoodBar; () [08:08:36] 03(mod) Interface messages needing rewording or documentation and other issues with existing messages (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38638 (10Nemo) [08:09:28] 03(mod) MediaWiki:Moodbar-privacy and MediaWiki:Moodbar-privacy-link use lego - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43483 (10Nemo) [08:09:30] 03(mod) Add PLURAL support to MediaWiki:Moodbar-form-note-dynamic - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43482 (10Nemo) [08:09:31] 03(mod) Add GENDER support to MediaWiki:Moodbar-log-hide and friends - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43481 (10Nemo) [08:09:32] 03(mod) MediaWiki:Pagetriage-no-patrol-right is confusing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43480 (10Nemo) [08:09:35] 03(mod) MediaWiki:Pagetriage-tags-tooltip is too negative - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43479 (10Nemo) [08:16:57] New patchset: Tim Starling; "Multiple servers in one SqlBagOStuff" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41023 [08:53:58] New patchset: Pginer; "Fix language names overflow on 'In other languages' section" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41024 [08:54:42] New review: Siebrand; "I don't understand what usability issue you're trying to resolve. Can you please clarify." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/38743 [08:57:47] How do I implement DOM-style arguments? [08:58:49] It gives an error which says, "call to a member function expand() on a non-object" [09:02:19] New review: Siebrand; "See inline comment. Also, entries in messages.inc. See http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/I18n#Adding_new..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37685 [09:02:25] 03(mod) Fatal exception of type MWException - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41360 +comment (10RolandUnger) [09:05:27] 03(mod) Fatal exception of type MWException - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41360 +comment (10RolandUnger) [09:25:53] New patchset: Santhosh; "(bug 42676) [Project Selector] Numbers visible in Opera" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41025 [09:26:48] New patchset: Yurik; "APIv2: handle versioned actions (e.g. action=login2)" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41014 [09:26:48] 03(mod) [Project Selector] Numbers visible in Opera - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42676 +comment (10Santhosh Thottingal) [09:29:10] New patchset: Eranroz; "AJAXify watchlist editor" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17216 [09:31:14] Change merged: Santhosh; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/40813 [09:32:51] aaa, this isn't happening!!! i did a git-review -d NNN, and it erased several uncommited files in my dir! [09:50:50] New patchset: Yurik; "APIv2: handle versioned actions (e.g. action=login2)" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41014 [09:51:46] * Susan blinks. [09:51:59] Versioned actions? [09:53:46] Hi Platonides. [09:54:51] > [09:54:52] * format=none * [09:54:52] Output nothing [09:54:53] > [09:54:54] What. [09:55:18] wha? [09:55:28] Why is there a format=none? [09:55:43] Yurik: I'm surprised to see you versioning by action name. That seems strange to me. [09:56:13] I thought the API would be versioned with a ?version= URL parameter. [09:56:22] hi Susan [09:57:02] http://pastebin.com/79mhcBfa [09:57:28] susan, it can't be [09:57:36] Why not? [09:57:39] its too modular, with various extensions adding their own modules [09:57:56] You're proposing versioned actions for every action? [09:57:58] but first thing first - checkout the pastebin - that's how files dissapear!!! [09:58:04] yes [09:58:17] its actually much easier to manage, and it solves one critical point [09:58:27] Hmmm. [09:58:35] Do other APIs do it this way? [09:58:43] an extension writer upgrades their module to ver2 [09:59:12] MW also upgrades to v2, but for some reason MW deploys without the new ver [09:59:30] so all clients see that v2 for that module has the same results as for v1 [09:59:43] later extension is installed, and all of a sudden v2 report changes [10:00:03] in other words, lots of incompatibilities simply because api has modular rather than monolything nature [10:00:14] and those modules may come from different sources [10:00:29] Do Reedy and Roan agree? [10:00:52] roan is missing in action [10:00:58] reedy hasn't commented on this [10:01:43] Ah, I see you commented on https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=39592 . [10:02:02] there were also some emailing [10:03:10] but why oh why did the stupid git erased my files without any warnings!?!? [10:03:15] 03(mod) Version the API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39592 (10MZMcBride) [10:03:31] luckly i was able to recover through some rediculous methods [10:03:44] but the certainty of the recovery is still shaky [10:07:13] Susan: btw, that patch i submited - i didn't want to post it to master just yet - but git simply refused to let me post to the API_Versioning branch [10:07:26] Git is the Devil. [10:07:28] * Susan sleeps. [10:07:28] which MaxSem created for me [10:07:36] understatement [10:09:22] Yurik: how are you submitting to gerrit? [10:09:31] git-review [10:09:59] Yurik: what's in your .gitreview file? do you have your branch there? [10:10:14] but why oh why did the stupid git erased my files without any warnings!?!? p858snake|l: are you saying that command git-review -d NNN erases local uncommited files? [10:12:00] if that's the case, that's the dumbest decision ever made by a programmer. Possibly comparable only to the ability to accidentally format one's harddrive by sneezing nearby [10:12:06] at least it's not svn [10:12:39] i would understand "at least that's not visual source safe" which was even worse at loosing stuff [10:13:00] but SVN has been fairly stable ever since i started using it [10:13:10] at least it wouldn't erase files unanounced [10:14:01] New patchset: Zfilipin; "Updated parellel_tests gem" [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41029 [10:14:21] Yurik: -d is for downloading from gerrit to review code iirc [10:14:31] correct [10:14:35] that's what i wanted to do [10:14:41] just accidently forgot to stash my stuff [10:15:08] visual source safe hasn't been updated in like ten years [10:17:37] roan is missing in action Thai: yeah, but you would be surprised to learn that a huge bank in NYC was using it just 6 years ago for some internal projects... [10:20:16] VSS forever (facepalm) [10:26:49] 03(NEW) No "component=Semantic MediaWiki" on Bugzilla - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43484 normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; () [10:49:13] 03(mod) Version the API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39592 +comment (10Yuri Astrakhan) [11:06:10] Hello there, how can I make it that certain skins remains default for all? I have uploaded Erudite skin to my MediaWIki, and it works with logged in account, but when I log out it goes back to default basic theme [11:07:17] 03(mod) Sane output for http://www.mediawiki.org/w/api.php?version needed with git - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35885 +comment (10Yuri Astrakhan) [11:09:05] New review: Zfilipin; "Looks like you did something wrong. You probably did not amend the existing commit (https://gerrit.w..." [qa/browsertests] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/40995 [11:11:49] Nefastus: $wgDefaultSkin [11:11:55] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgDefaultSkin [11:14:04] i get an error when i run "git fetch gerrit refs/notes/commits:refs/notes/commits" [11:14:07] does anybody know why? [11:15:00] Dantman, what do I do with that? Add to the LocalSettings.php? [11:18:34] Yeah, you put $wgDefaultSkin = "my-skin"; in local settings [11:21:10] Thanks [11:21:50] did it work? [11:22:25] Trying to see if $wgDefaultSkin = "my-skin" is already in the settings, then I will just change my-skin [11:24:03] wiki.sanctumofcaerus.com/ [11:24:15] Works, thanks [11:26:28] very nice [11:27:10] what exactly does "Once cloned, get commit notes which will nicely indicate the old SVN version numbers." mean? [11:27:15] New patchset: Zfilipin; "Steps and page for PageTriage feature" [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/40995 [11:28:14] Change abandoned: Zfilipin; "Abandoning this commit since the identical commit is here: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/40995/" [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/40801 [11:31:08] New review: Zfilipin; "Changed commit message and removed extra whitespace." [qa/browsertests] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/40995 [11:33:16] 03(mod) Wrong ordering of search results - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43238 +comment (10Incarus) [11:33:47] New review: Zfilipin; "Do you need help with making the suggested changes?" [qa/browsertests] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37771 [11:50:52] New patchset: IAlex; "(bug 42949) API shouldn't assume all exceptions are MWException" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/38074 [11:53:52] I need gerrit help, again :( [11:54:09] details here: https://gist.github.com/4397098 [11:54:22] Change merged: IAlex; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/38074 [11:54:41] I am getting this error when trying to get a commit to my local machine: "fatal: Couldn't find remote ref refs/changes/71/39771/1" [11:55:36] 03(mod) ApiMain assumes MWException - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42949 +comment (10Alexandre Emsenhuber [IAlex]) [11:58:09] i have a similar problem where in the http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Workflow tutorial, when I "git fetch gerrit refs/notes/commits:refs/notes/commits", I get a similar error [11:58:45] Thai: at least I am not alone :) [12:01:42] i am here with you [12:02:12] hm, I think I have found the problem [12:02:15] let me check [12:02:54] my mistake [12:03:04] I was in the wrong repository locally :) [12:03:06] 03(mod) make category redirects appear as italics or different colored links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/5346 +comment (10Russell Blau) [12:07:13] zeljkof: did you "git fetch gerrit refs/notes/commits:refs/notes/commits" when you git cloned? i still don't get the point of it [12:07:52] Thai: not sure, it was long time ago [12:08:02] well, not so long, but a few months ago [12:08:28] New patchset: IAlex; "Correct isset() and associated checks in Revision::__construct()" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41031 [12:11:06] Hi! I just installed a wiki.. and am a bit lost on how to add notification boxes. Can someone point me to some documentation on the subject? [12:15:54] what do you mean by notification boxes? [12:17:04] Putr: do you mean https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox ? [12:18:33] Saruman: have you seen the hobbit? [12:19:56] Thai: not yet [12:20:27] I'd not like to start seeing a story without being able to see the end [12:20:57] yeah, i saw it the other day and it ended abruptly [12:21:09] it was good movie but was pretty sour about the ending [12:46:09] New patchset: Siebrand; "Add plural support for protocols in 'linksearch-text'" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/40994 [12:50:04] Change merged: IAlex; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/40994 [13:05:38] New review: Siebrand; "Pretty weird... A merged without a +2 verified???" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/40994 [13:09:03] uh [13:09:46] am i meant to git pull gerrit master and git rebase master before I git review? [13:10:47] 03(mod) when serving Uzbek Wikipedia, make HTTPS canonical - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43466 (10John Mark Vandenberg) [13:11:57] New review: Demon; "That doesn't make sense. If we merge it to master *before* 1.21wmf7, the change would go out with 1...." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25170 [13:12:18] 03(mod) make category redirects appear as italics or different colored links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/5346 +comment (10Timeshifter) [13:12:49] 03(NEW) Code merged for core without verified score - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43485 normal; Wikimedia: Git/Gerrit; () [13:16:42] 03(mod) Steward, global sysop and SWMT tasks bugs (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41492 (10Snowolf) [13:16:53] New review: OliverKeyes; "Sorry, confusion of subject: yes, we should cut before merge, but we're going to need to actually no..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25170 [13:16:59] 03(mod) Code merged for core without verified score - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43485 +comment (10Chad H.) [13:18:05] New review: MaxSem; "Demon, I still don't see a solution for nostalgiawiki, we can't merge it yet." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 1 C: -2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25170 [13:19:58] Hi [13:20:14] How can I show an SQL query in a page? [13:20:29] I get Internal Server Error when I try to save the page [13:20:36] New review: Demon; "We should make that change in the 1.21wmf7 branch then, right after we cut it. No point in putting t..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25170 [13:20:51] FrankWhite, on WMF or your own wiki? [13:21:12] MaxSem: My own wiki [13:21:17] I already have the syntaxhighlight extension [13:21:42] $wgShowExceptionDetails = true; $wgShowSQLErrors = true; [13:21:53] thanks [13:21:58] I will try it [13:22:01] wait [13:22:07] I misunderstood [13:22:27] I thought you wanted to see SQL exceptions [13:22:28] New review: Siebrand; "Release notes are for 1.20. We're at 1.21." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/5588 [13:22:50] while you need [13:22:57] MaxSem: no [13:22:57] err, "sql" [13:23:07] I want to be able to show SELECT * FROM xxx [13:23:23] I'm using [13:24:33] 03(mod) make category redirects appear as italics or different colored links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/5346 +comment (10Timeshifter) [13:24:56] FrankWhite, yeah - so did you get this extension from Git? [13:27:13] New review: OliverKeyes; "So, if I'm understanding correctly: we'd cut them from the core tarball and "release" version now, b..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25170 [13:29:38] MaxSem: Yes [13:29:58] And I get the error when I use the sql query inside it [13:30:44] FrankWhite, so in extensions/SyntaxHighlightGeSHi there's directory called geshi and it's not empty? [13:31:05] 03(mod) Code merged for core without verified score - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43485 +comment (10Siebrand) [13:32:39] MaxSem: yes, I already tried it with php code [13:32:46] mmm [13:32:51] !debug | FrankWhite [13:32:51] FrankWhite: For information on debugging (including viewing errors), see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:How_to_debug . A list of related configuration variables is at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Configuration_settings#Debug.2Flogging [13:32:55] It doesn't like sql queries I guess [13:33:06] Is it trying to execute it or something? [13:33:16] aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh [13:33:28] Does MediaWiki has a default admin panel? I think it was listed on home page until I edited it :( [13:33:37] mod_security [13:34:04] FrankWhite, https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/ModSecurity [13:34:11] Nefastus, no [13:34:20] Oh [13:34:29] unless you mean Special:SpecialPages or something like that [13:34:56] Yea, I checked SpecialPages, but was hoping for something more of administrative page [13:34:58] Oh well [13:35:13] Maxsem: what exaactly do I need to change in mod_security? [13:35:23] Isn't there an alternative solution? [13:35:48] generally, throw it away - it's not for user-content sites [13:36:23] Nefastus, MediaWiki is configured by editing LocalSettings.php [13:43:34] Yes, I noticed [13:43:54] Even setting permission rights to users? [13:45:08] Yes [13:45:23] (that is, to user groups, not specific users.) [13:45:33] Well, it seems as SpecialPages does have that [13:45:34] I see [13:46:19] Or it just shows the information, oh well [13:47:18] New patchset: Merlijn van Deen; "Now based on [[mw:Git/Reviewers]] - hopefully" [test/mediawiki/extensions/examples] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41032 [13:47:20] Nefastus: are you trying to prevent non-logged in users from seeing pages? [13:48:04] No no, just trying to understand how much of administration I can do from the website, instead of LocalSettings.php [13:48:27] Example, could I assign editing rights to users from the website instead of settings [13:48:42] Hello. [13:50:15] Nefastus: You can do that using Special:UserRights, but you would also need to first *prevent* users from gaining the editing right in LocalSettings.php [13:51:09] I believe I did that when I was installing MediaWiki [13:51:38] !userrights | Nefastus [13:51:38] Nefastus: For information on customizing user access, see < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:User_rights >. For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access >. [13:51:49] Thanks [13:52:01] yw. [13:52:13] [13:53:46] 03(mod) Videos don't play in Opera - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43477 +comment (10Jan Gerber) [13:56:24] 03(mod) Code merged for core without verified score - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43485 +comment (10Alexandre Emsenhuber [IAlex]) [13:56:59] New patchset: Merlijn van Deen; "Now based on [[mw:Git/Reviewers]] - hopefully #2" [test/mediawiki/extensions/examples] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41033 [13:57:19] cool. [14:07:54] Hi, I'm having an issue installing MediaWiki. It's throwing an error about date.timezone in the installer, and putting it in th LocalSettings. I set date.timezone in php.ini but no difference o.O [14:13:19] did you restart your webserver afterwards? [14:14:21] Its through a host, so no. [14:14:42] i changed the Local php.ini [14:14:46] Change abandoned: Merlijn van Deen; "(no reason)" [test/mediawiki/extensions/examples] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41033 [14:14:57] well, local for my hosting account [14:15:12] how is it supposed to load it? [14:15:14] anyone around to mute gerrit-wm for a minute? I have a set of test changes to abandom [14:15:29] if not, I'll just abandon one every few minutes [14:16:43] ..the php.ini on my hosting provider [14:17:06] it was modified through there portal and I accepted changes [14:17:23] valhallasw: go ahead [14:18:27] changed the timezone in defaultsettings.php [14:18:39] works [14:18:56] Reedy: thanks -- done [14:18:56] now i can proceed with the installer :) [14:19:09] Milenko: Don't do that [14:19:46] why? [14:19:47] the errors gone... :| [14:20:36] oh. :P [14:20:37] I see why [14:22:58] 03(mod) Mobile browser autodetection doesn't work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36894 +comment (10Jon) [14:23:27] gah if I dont change it in DefaultSettings, what can I do? [14:25:10] 03(mod) Mobile browser autodetection doesn't work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36894 +comment (10Max Semenik) [14:25:24] LocalSettings [14:27:20] Its breaking the installer. LocalSettings isnt having any effect on it, I have this timezone error on the top of the installer. [14:27:33] and when i do go through, and create a localsettings, the main page of the wiki displays the localsettings file data [14:28:22] 03(mod) Code merged for core without verified score - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43485 +comment (10Chad H.) [14:30:05] And it works. [14:30:20] hi ^demon [14:30:26] <^demon> Good morning. [14:30:32] and then, after you upgrade, it will suddenly stop working [14:30:34] Installer no longer throws the error, and now the wiki's working. [14:30:57] Then, suddenly I'll change the timezone info in there again. [14:30:57] since its apparently broken [14:31:02] I just noticed I can't Verified-2 in projects which I can merge to - it's not necessary right now, but I think I was able to do that before? [14:31:15] something on this server is screwing with it [14:31:25] Maybe I'm just imagining it let me do that before though... [14:31:40] if i have to manually change it then i guess thats what I gotta do :( [14:33:55] <^demon> Krenair: Nothing changed since we made the changes last week. [14:34:09] <^demon> All owners have Verified+2, CodeReview+2, Submit. [14:34:15] <^demon> *week before last [14:35:18] I can Verified+2, Verified+1, Verified-1. But not Verified-2. I can submit and I can set all CodeReview numbers [14:35:52] New patchset: Krinkle; "(bug 40340) Fix cache issues with changing user groups" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24249 [14:36:47] <^demon> Krenair: Ohh, there is no Verified -2. [14:37:00] <^demon> We didn't need it for jenkins, so the full range is just -1..+2 [14:38:12] Oh. Jenkins sets Verified-1 on failures then? [14:38:36] <^demon> Yep. [14:39:45] New review: Krinkle; "recheck" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24249 [14:39:50] And that displays as the red X... Ok [14:45:57] New review: Krinkle; "recheck" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24249 [14:46:56] New review: Luis Felipe Schenone; "Siebrand, the issue is that before the patch, the watchlist displays "all" as the last option, and t..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/38743 [14:51:55] New review: Cmcmahon; "first PageTriage support" [qa/browsertests] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/40995 [14:51:56] Change merged: Cmcmahon; [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/40995 [14:52:42] New review: Cmcmahon; "maintenance, performance" [qa/browsertests] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41029 [14:52:42] Change merged: Cmcmahon; [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41029 [14:55:14] 03(NEW) Full text search broken in German Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43486 critical; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; () [14:59:55] 03(mod) Videos don't play in Opera - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43477 +comment (10Christian Thiele) [15:04:59] 03(mod) Full text search broken in German Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43486 +comment (10Max Semenik) [15:06:53] 03(mod) Full text search broken in German Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43486 +comment (10Ariel T. Glenn) [15:09:46] December 29 now. [15:10:03] New patchset: Anonymous Coward; "Added file backend support for Windows Azure" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41035 [15:10:39] 03(mod) Videos don't play in Opera - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43477 normal->04BLOCKER (10TMg) [15:14:15] New patchset: Raimond Spekking; "[GuidedTour] Change status of a message key: ignored->optional" [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41036 [15:14:26] Change merged: Raimond Spekking; [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41036 [15:15:16] 03(mod) Full text search broken in German Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43486 +comment (10TMg) [15:16:28] New review: Yurik; "Answered comments. Will do another checkin." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41014 [15:22:04] 03(mod) Full text search broken in German Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43486 +comment (10Max Semenik) [15:25:53] 03(mod) Full text search broken in German Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43486 +comment (10Ariel T. Glenn) [15:26:11] 03(mod) No "component=Semantic MediaWiki" on Bugzilla - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43484 +comment (10[[kgh]]) [15:27:55] Change abandoned: Anonymous Coward; "(no reason)" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41035 [15:28:08] Change restored: Anonymous Coward; "(no reason)" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41035 [15:28:21] 03(mod) Full text search broken in German Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43486 +comment (10TMg) [15:30:12] New patchset: Anonymous Coward; "Fixed some silly bracket errors" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41037 [15:31:18] New patchset: Matthias Mullie; "Refactor AFT backend" [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24264 [15:31:44] New patchset: Yurik; "APIv2: handle versioned actions (e.g. action=login2)" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41014 [15:46:46] I'm wondering if it would make sense to run mediawiki's filecache and varnish? [15:47:10] my varnish seems to miss a lot of things due to cookies from ads and social network widgets [15:47:21] for those misses does it make sense to run file cache as well? [15:51:23] that, or fine-tune varnish. It shouldn't care about cookies that aren't used for authentication [15:51:37] hi [15:51:50] I put ConfirmEdit in mi Wiki [15:52:02] but apparently has inconfigurate it [15:52:08] any idea? [15:52:14] http://wiki-termitas.com/wiki/P%C3%A1gina_principal [15:52:50] ki: I don't have experience with varnish, but you probably can specify what cookies should make requests hit the main server [15:53:19] ganimedes: let me look at this... [15:53:30] ok [15:54:31] thanks vulpix i have seen documentation on removing certain cookies ... a wee bit relunctant (like stripping ad cookies would it mess with my ad revenue / removing social network cookies .. users ability to share those pages .. etc) [15:54:58] ganimedes: load.php URLs are served as text/html instead of the proper content-type (text/css or text/javascript, where appropiate). See for example http://wiki-termitas.com/load.php?debug=false&lang=es&modules=mediawiki.legacy.commonPrint%2Cshared|skins.vector&only=styles&skin=vector&* [15:55:48] ganimedes: did you changed configuration from the apache? [15:56:50] nono just copy the files in new folder and update LocalSettings.php [15:57:15] I can´t touch Apache [15:57:58] ki: from what I understand, varnish will serve a cached copy if the request doesn't contain cookies, and will direct the request to the server (apache/nginx/etc) if the request contains cookies. I don't see how could it interfere with ad revenue, etc if those cookies aren't handled by MediaWiki [15:57:59] New review: Alex Monk; "This should be PS2 on Ieee0b6a7. Please abandon and amend that commit." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41037 [15:58:28] New review: Alex Monk; "I mean, please abandon this and amend Ieee0b6a7" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41037 [15:58:50] ganimedes: if you feel more confortable talking spanish, you can /join #mediawiki-es [15:59:19] ok, thanks, I go there [16:07:36] New review: Alex Monk; "Please follow https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Coding_conventions/PHP" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41035 [16:08:37] New patchset: J; "use video/webm instead of audio/webm for webm" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41038 [16:11:47] Change abandoned: Anonymous Coward; "(no reason)" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41037 [16:13:48] 03(NEW) Turkish Wikisource: "VikiKaynak" should be "Vikikaynak" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43487 normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; () [16:14:47] 03(mod) when serving Uzbek Wikipedia, make HTTPS canonical - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43466 (10denny vrandecic) [16:16:49] New review: Reedy; "Also, those classes needs adding to the autoloader." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41035 [16:28:55] The only way to get {error: srnosearch} is to send ?action=query&list=search&format=json without including an &srsearch field, right? [16:30:43] New patchset: MaxSem; "Fix inconsistencies discovered after deployment" [mediawiki/extensions/PageImages] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/40812 [16:35:40] New review: Thaiphan; "I was kind of expecting people would download another plugin along the lines of the SwiftCloudFiles ..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41035 [16:36:28] New patchset: Hoo man; "(bug 16860) Add api for getting all global groups" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralAuth] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25750 [16:36:46] 03(mod) Move transcoded vIdeos out of thumbs containers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43343 +comment (10Jan Gerber) [16:37:48] New review: Hoo man; "Fixed, applied coding conventions and simplified." [mediawiki/extensions/CentralAuth] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25750 [16:41:16] New review: Hoo man; "I think the fact that this one misses a continue logic and just throws all global groups towards the..." [mediawiki/extensions/CentralAuth] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25750 [16:41:43] New review: MaxSem; "Already tested on testwiki so..." [mediawiki/extensions/PageImages] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/40812 [16:42:04] Change merged: MaxSem; [mediawiki/extensions/PageImages] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/40812 [16:43:39] New patchset: Hoo man; "(bug 16860) Add api for getting all global groups" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralAuth] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25750 [16:44:13] New review: Alex Monk; "Hello? Should this be moved onto Special:CentralAuth or not?" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralAuth] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39171 [16:44:13] New patchset: MaxSem; "Update PageImages" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf6) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41039 [16:44:28] Change merged: MaxSem; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf6) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41039 [16:45:48] New patchset: Hoo man; "(bug 16860) Add api for getting all global groups" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralAuth] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25750 [16:46:20] New review: Hoo man; "Rebased" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralAuth] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25750 [16:47:06] New review: Hoo man; "I think the fact that this one misses a continue logic and just throws all global groups towards the..." [mediawiki/extensions/CentralAuth] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25750 [16:47:06] Change merged: Hoo man; [mediawiki/extensions/CentralAuth] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25750 [16:51:51] 03(mod) Empty editnotices appear as notices - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43460 +comment (10Krinkle) [16:51:52] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Deal with en.wikipedia.org's edit notice system - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43013 +comment (10Krinkle) [16:52:02] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Empty editnotices appear as notices - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43460 summary (10Krinkle) [16:53:36] 03(mod) Use instead of