[00:00:19] * Dereckson goes to lunch. ++ [00:00:41] New review: Kghbln; "I have created two additional templates to cater for these messages." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41939 [00:01:09] New patchset: Ori.livneh; "(Bug 43599) Only show revision ID for schema articles" [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42051 [00:02:21] 03(mod) EventLogging interface message displaying strangely - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43599 +comment (10Ori Livneh) [00:02:39] ki: I wonder if the "good way" to achieve what you want (purge the page after a comment is added) wouldn't to modify the comment system extension. [00:02:47] Change merged: Ori.livneh; [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42051 [00:04:21] New review: CSteipp; "I talked with Aaron, and while it would be nice if bug 31863 was fixed first, we're trying to get th..." [mediawiki/extensions/CentralAuth] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39171 [00:04:24] New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Update EventLogging to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf6) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42052 [00:04:56] New review: Mattflaschen; "Patch set 3 uses the config workaround." [mediawiki/extensions/GuidedTour] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41374 [00:06:14] Change restored: Aaron Schulz; "(no reason)" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22466 [00:08:07] New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Update EventLogging to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf7) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42053 [00:08:50] Change merged: Ori.livneh; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf6) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42052 [00:10:08] I have a quick question: Need to fix an error on the wiki that is below the content line, where the page modified is...What is that element called? [00:10:24] Cannot look up how to edit it because I do not know what it is named. [00:11:20] usually in that space is where there is page modified info etc.. What is that area called, if anyone is around. Thank you. [00:13:39] Guest52992: The footer? [00:14:08] Thank you. I will try that. Can't figure it out in the page. There is no "page" for it. [00:15:02] Nope. That is what it is called, but MediaWiki:footer doesn't let me edit. [00:15:04] hmmm... [00:15:54] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "Commit of various live hacks" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22466 [00:16:10] Guest52992: Could you pastebin the error message? [00:16:33] sure. [00:16:51] actually, there is no error. [00:16:57] there just isn't an option to edit it. [00:17:07] I also tried MediaWiki:Common.css but that doesn't get at it either. [00:17:15] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:FAQ#How_do_I_change_the_footer.3F [00:17:22] !footer [00:17:23] For changing the page footer, see the FAQ (!) . More information at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Footer and http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Skinning#Footer [00:17:28] Sweet. [00:17:34] Note to self: Use the bots [00:18:08] Thank you. But I'm trying to get to the MediaWiki:Common.css and can't get at it. Sorry, I'm a N00b, but doing my best. How do I get to the CSS to edit? [00:18:24] Guest52992: Is the wiki public? [00:18:49] New review: Aaron Schulz; "Removed HTMLCacheUpdateJob.php hack with $wgUseSquid." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22466 [00:19:10] not yet. just content keeping with admin access for colleagues [00:19:19] visible on the web, though [00:19:20] Change abandoned: Aaron Schulz; "Don't want people to merge" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22466 [00:19:33] Guest52992: Presumably you have admin access, then? And you're logged in? [00:19:48] Guest52992: add ?uselang=qqx to the URL [00:19:51] the person that helped me set it up is unavailable now, and i'm trying to learn how to fix the spelling error [00:20:03] 03(NEW) query string's ending semicolon can appear to be the last field's value - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43600 minor; MediaWiki extensions: EventLogging; () [00:20:08] Guest52992: the element you want to modify will be replaced by its name [00:20:12] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "Updated patch gerrit ref." [mediawiki/tools/release] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42055 [00:20:17] then go to MediaWiki: page and edit it [00:21:21] yes, i have full admin access and am logged in [00:22:19] ok, so if the site is abc.com i go to abc.com/wiki/mainpage/?uselang=qqx is that right? [00:22:28] right [00:22:51] New patchset: Spage; "bug 43550: return failures from validate" [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41826 [00:23:01] then in the side bar, I type mediawiki:(elementnamehere) is that right? [00:23:02] New patchset: Spage; "bug 43550: return failures from validate" [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41826 [00:23:30] leave out the parens [00:23:46] New review: Spage; "This version does a for-in. Tests pass, but they did before I fixed!" [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41826 [00:23:48] without the () [00:23:49] yes. [00:24:11] giftpflanze: one moment I thought you left from your parents' place. [00:24:28] ^^ [00:24:39] seems to be very slow connecting me [00:25:42] still waiting for connection. [00:26:39] ok [00:27:06] it's a variable. So the misspelling is attached to a variable called {{SITENAME}} [00:27:19] now i have to find out where that is...right? [00:27:42] 03(mod) Adding links make EasyTimeline instance break - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/17847 +comment (10Valerie Juarez) [00:27:50] This is your site name, $wgSiteName in LocalSettings.php [00:28:07] dereckson, that is for me, right? [00:28:11] Right. [00:28:22] sorry I am a N00b. How do I get to LocalSettings.php ? [00:28:48] 03(mod) Adding links make EasyTimeline instance break - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/17847 (10Valerie Juarez) [00:29:24] without, you know, wrecking things in the process. [00:30:34] With a text editor. [00:31:09] How do you communicate with your webserver? You log in by SSH, it's in your own PC or you use FTP? [00:31:30] I'm using the web client at the moment to edit as a user might. (I'm not a dev) [00:32:07] So i have to ssh into the webserver client, find the .php file for localsettings.php and then try to fix the spelling error. is that correct? [00:34:05] 03(mod) EventLogging interface message displaying strangely - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43599 +comment (10MZMcBride) [00:34:52] New review: Kghbln; "Two more comments unrelated to the previous one I made" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41939 [00:36:14] Guest52992: correct [00:36:23] Guest52992: LocalSettings.php is at your wiki root folder [00:36:51] thank you. you have been really helpful and I am very appreciative. I will try to track down how to log in and fix that and hopefully, that will solve it. Thank you again! [00:37:04] You're welcome. [00:39:54] New review: Mattflaschen; "As I said, please add tests for the return values. Particularly because there is still a return-val..." [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41826 [00:42:31] New review: Mattflaschen; "Also, if you want to discuss warn in the commit message, what's happening is that warn is monkey-pat..." [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41826 [00:46:12] New patchset: Hoo man; "(bug 43595) Add a cache version variable to SiteArray" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42037 [00:47:00] New review: Hoo man; "Dunno why I set this as string..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42037 [00:56:31] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "Added $wgMaxBacklinksInvalidate to avoid massive html cache invalidation." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42061 [00:57:20] 03(mod) No new user talk message on-wiki notification - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43440 (10Emanuele Raoli) [00:57:30] 03(mod) Re-enable Squid updates in HTMLCacheUpdate - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43341 +comment (10Aaron Schulz) [01:05:53] New review: CSteipp; "I haven't traced why, but this isn't working for me on my dev system-- a blocked account is still be..." [mediawiki/extensions/CentralAuth] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41916 [01:06:05] I am developing a tag extension, is there a way to get page section name, something like getSection (as in getTitle())? [01:08:32] Change merged: CSteipp; [mediawiki/extensions/GlobalBlocking] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30804 [01:09:06] 03(mod) High OOM rate in refreshLinks2 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39493 +comment (10Aaron Schulz) [01:09:09] 03(mod) Convert to protocol relative link — report line in Special:GlobalBlockList - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36145 +comment (10Krenair) [01:11:50] I am developing a tag extension, is there a way to get page section name, something like getSection (as in getTitle())? [01:15:47] New review: Aaron Schulz; "This shows on specialpages" [mediawiki/extensions/ExtensionDistributor] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37478 [01:17:07] eroosn: I can't see a good way to do that from my glances at the documentation [01:17:28] eroosn: I'd imagine you could add that information to the PPFrame implementation, but that seems a bit hackish [01:17:57] eroosn: You could also expose the $mLastSection variable in the Parser class through an accessor, but I'm not sure that's the way to do it [01:19:59] 03(mod) UploadWizard Flickr (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43450 (10Waldir) [01:23:09] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "Removed redundant width/height tags to avoid getimagesize() call." [mediawiki/extensions/ConfirmEdit] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42067 [01:24:29] 03(mod) Autocategorization by UploadWizard makes [[:commons:Category:Uploaded with UploadWizard]] uselessly large - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42548 +comment (10Ryan Kaldari) [01:27:08] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/40808 [01:28:50] 03(mod) Improve CAPTCHA readability - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43546 +comment (10Aaron Schulz) [01:29:24] 03(mod) Improve CAPTCHA readability - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43546 +comment (10Aaron Schulz) [01:31:25] 03(mod) Support optimized WebP thumbnails as alternative to JPEG - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/25611 (10Waldir) [01:31:30] 03(mod) Add .webp to the list of accepted file types on Wikimedia Commons uploads - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/25397 (10Waldir) [01:34:07] Dereckson, thank you! Did it! [01:35:57] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/38532 [01:36:18] Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/tools/release] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42055 [01:37:29] "Most extensions work across multiple versions of MediaWiki" [01:37:31] 03(mod) Add db server sharding to SqlBagOStuff - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42463 +comment (10Rob Lanphier) [01:37:35] * AaronSchulz chuckles [01:37:40] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41217 [01:38:04] New review: Aaron Schulz; "Notice: Undefined variable: rev in /var/www/DevWiki/extensions/ExtensionDistributor/SpecialExtension..." [mediawiki/extensions/ExtensionDistributor] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37478 [01:42:06] marktraceur: seems too much, so I decide to change my implementation. But thanks a lot for helping :) [01:42:28] eroosn: God help me! [01:43:10] eroosn: Hopefully she knows PHP! Good luck! [01:44:12] marktraceur: ofcourse, infinite wisdom and knowledge! [01:44:40] eroosn: The paradox being that she might be wise enough to steer clear of PHP :) [01:45:02] 03(mod) Set lv.wikipedia time zone to local time - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43592 (10xilwikipedia) [01:46:33] marktraceur: dont know what that means [01:46:45] New patchset: Hoo man; "(bug 22317) Do not prevent unification if home wiki is blocked" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralAuth] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41916 [01:46:49] Is there a maintenance script to delete excess entries from the page table that don't have any associated revisions? [01:48:10] marktraceur: but God is all-Encompassing and Knowing, but most people do not know! [01:48:18] marktraceur: but thanks for help. [01:48:54] eroosn: but PHP is Satan approved ;) [01:52:34] New patchset: Kaldari; "Separating html and html-light formatting for notifications" [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41042 [01:56:53] Change merged: Kaldari; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41810 [01:57:00] New patchset: Reedy; "Remove source images and just store compressed images in the folders" [mediawiki/extensions/WikiEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42068 [01:57:40] New review: Kaldari; "You probably want to update RELEASE-NOTES-1.21 as well, BTW." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41810 [01:58:23] New patchset: Reedy; "Losslessly compress images" [mediawiki/extensions/WikiEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42069 [01:58:56] ashley: all evil can be turn good, with the will of God. [01:59:13] ashley: the end result of my work will dazzle you! [01:59:41] Change merged: Kaldari; [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/40756 [02:00:26] New patchset: Hoo man; "(bug 22317) Do not prevent unification if home wiki is blocked" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralAuth] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41916 [02:01:10] 03(mod) Update Wikivoyage logo where applicable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43565 +comment (10This, that and the other) [02:01:35] New review: Hoo man; "You're right, I have to admit that I didn't test this first. Fixed and tested the change now" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralAuth] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41916 [02:05:37] New review: Asher; "I think the current scheme is fine for wmf's immediate needs, where SqlBagOStuff is being sharded to..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41023 [02:06:35] 03(mod) Update Wikivoyage logo where applicable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43565 -shell +shellpolicy; +comment (10Dereckson) [02:07:24] Could unowned text entries be a problem? [02:07:38] I mean, rows in the text table that don't belong to anything in archive or revision... [02:10:09] 03(mod) Update Wikivoyage logo where applicable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43565 +comment (10This, that and the other) [02:10:40] eroosn: I was being a bit facetious because religious talk in here is generally...well, not smiled upon, but maybe not frowned upon either. I don't know, it just seems rather off-topic. [02:11:53] hmm, did i start the flame in 43565? [02:13:53] How do you move a page? [02:14:54] Isarra, go to [[Special:MovePage/]] [02:15:11] Or index.php?title=&action=move [02:15:24] (actually why do we have both?) [02:16:20] Krenair: Just hope they use the same code ;) [02:16:22] Krenair: We don't... there's no action=move AFAIK [02:17:11] Wait what. I'm an idiot, we don't [02:17:20] Guess I just assumed everything in that menu uses an action... huh. [02:18:42] Oh, I mean like in a maintenance script or something. [02:18:50] I assume there's a function you can call? [02:20:02] 03(mod) Update Wikivoyage logo where applicable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43565 +comment (10Dereckson) [02:20:03] Wow. Guess I shouldn't be on IRC at this hour :) [02:20:41] Neither should I. [02:20:43] Were do you live? [02:20:45] Where [02:20:59] UK. [02:21:08] Isarra: Taking a look at the API module with the same purpose is usually a good idea ;) [02:21:26] (You can even invoke the API from PHP) [02:22:07] Does the site need to be up for that? [02:22:23] Isarra: Mh? [02:22:36] Hmm? [02:22:47] Define site and define up ;) [02:24:11] I... have no idea. [02:26:09] Isarra: You at least need a PHP interpreter and the database has to be up to be able to move a page [02:26:26] not necessary a web server, though [02:28:23] Oh. [02:29:40] I... have no idea. I knew before. [02:30:29] Possibly. [02:30:36] Unless that was the wrong question entirely. [02:30:41] I don't remember. [02:39:42] marktraceur: I was being a bit vigorous because for some people religion is off-topic here and everywhere. They don't consider God the highest authority, and self help, and crap instead of religion is their way of life... btw OMG, God help me, etc is just part of vocabulary :) [02:40:09] marktraceur: But I totally understand you. [02:40:10] saper: could you help to clean up a strange Git/Gerrit situation? [02:41:55] saper: well no, this is not messed, and I've seen a solution. [02:42:13] terrrydactyl: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/42031/ depends of https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/39503/ [02:42:27] terrrydactyl: so you have to approve and merge it also, instead of abandon it [02:43:27] it's not nice on a code review perspective to validate this commit, but we'll have in the git log a very clean and natural log. [02:43:33] And you'll have a clean base to work [02:47:17] 03(mod) Implement ability to safely link e-mail addresses - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40347 (10Snowolf) [02:47:40] What does moving a page actually do? [02:48:32] move it to a new title, and adjusts the db accordingly [02:48:51] And what sort of adjustments are those? [02:50:16] 03(mod) Update Wikivoyage logo where applicable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43565 +comment (10Snowolf) [03:00:44] New patchset: Yurik; "* API Query smart-continue mode" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42070 [03:00:58] Dereckson: how do I unabandon it? [03:01:06] is there a restore button? [03:01:13] finished! the ultimate in query continuation :) [03:01:17] there's a restore change button [03:01:40] who wants to try? https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/42070/ [03:01:44] That's the button to unabandon. [03:02:04] Change restored: Terrrydactyl; "Unabandoned because I64d5c7e5 requires this commit." [mediawiki/extensions/Git2Pages] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39503 [03:02:23] Now as soon as you merge it, others will be merged too. [03:03:00] But this commit still has a -1 from your earlier review, so would it be bad to merge it even though it gets fixed with the later commit? [03:03:27] As I said before, it's not nice on a code review perspective to validate this commit, but we'll have in the git log a very clean and natural log. [03:03:39] So yes, you can do it this time. [03:03:54] i'm sorry it's such a headache. i've never heard of amending changes before this so i was always under the impression that you always commit new changes. [03:04:15] Git allow a lot of different workflows. [03:05:21] yeah, i see that now. this workflow makes sense, i just didn't realize it until too late [03:05:33] do i merge it by reviewing it? [03:06:07] yes, you give it a +2 [03:06:12] then you'll have the merge button available [03:07:02] * Yurik wants +2 [03:07:27] just under the code review right? [03:08:08] terrrydactyl: yes [03:09:35] New review: Terrrydactyl; "Given +2 to merge code with mistakes because mistakes are fixed in subsequent commits that need this..." [mediawiki/extensions/Git2Pages] (master); V: 0 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39503 [03:10:01] Yurik: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Gerrit_project_ownership [03:10:07] 03(mod) Update Wikivoyage logo where applicable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43565 +comment (10This, that and the other) [03:11:00] Does mediawiki have angry developers? [03:13:08] yes. and we throw them at angry users [03:14:35] Isarra: We try to use the word "mad", that way we can preserve temporary insanity pleas for trial. [03:16:06] I love you guys. [03:16:08] marktraceur: i object to the word "temporary" [03:16:47] New patchset: Spage; "returnTo may start a task funnel; log more stuff." [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/40345 [03:17:27] aaanyway, pls https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/42070/ -- would really like to make it for .21, all api frameworks will kill for it [03:17:41] terrrydactyl: you also need to verify it [03:18:49] Yurik: I'll play with your API tomorrow [03:18:57] gratsi [03:19:21] terrrydactyl: to merge a change, it has to be verified and reviwed [03:19:24] (reviewed) [03:19:39] Normally, review is done by the Jenkins tests. [03:20:01] Ah okay. I wasn't sure if I was supposed to verify it too [03:20:11] New review: Spage; "New patch checks for jQuery returning a null returnToTitle; also logs returnToTitle on impression. ..." [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/40345 [03:20:37] New review: Terrrydactyl; "Given +2 to merge code with mistakes because mistakes are fixed in subsequent commits that need this..." [mediawiki/extensions/Git2Pages] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39503 [03:20:38] Change merged: Terrrydactyl; [mediawiki/extensions/Git2Pages] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42032 [03:20:38] Change merged: Terrrydactyl; [mediawiki/extensions/Git2Pages] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42031 [03:20:38] Change merged: Terrrydactyl; [mediawiki/extensions/Git2Pages] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39503 [03:20:41] :) [03:20:53] New patchset: Yaron Koren; "Fixed variable name - fix for I89bc4774dd041e235740d0c6fc21913fdae21896" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticInternalObjects] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42071 [03:21:02] man, i really messed around with gerrit today [03:21:11] but i think i finally have a better understanding of it [03:21:25] and i didn't technically break anything, so i guess that's good. :D [03:21:36] And here is my git log: http://grip.espace-win.org/~dereckson/Git2Pages/CommitLog.txt [03:21:53] So you see, in fine, we have a clean repo. [03:22:04] ah okay [03:22:33] well, hopefully things will go more smoothly from now on [03:23:11] Change merged: Yaron Koren; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticInternalObjects] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42071 [03:24:56] Dereckson: I don't know if you saw my PM but I also renamed "origin" to "gerrit" via these instructions: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Workflow#Prepare_to_work_with_gerrit I was just wondering if that's necessary [03:26:03] I don't share the S opinion on the matter. [03:26:25] S opinion? [03:27:02] S is the firstname of the guy who prepared this picture: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/File:Origin_vs_gerrit_remotes.jpg [03:27:17] oh okay [03:27:38] because there are other "tutorials" that just use origin so i wasn't sure what to do. [03:27:46] Krenair: by the way, could you oversight the South Park revision from http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/File:Origin_vs_gerrit_remotes.jpg - it's a copyvio [03:27:58] terrrydactyl: I'm happy with both origin and gerrit since June [03:28:12] I can revdel [03:29:07] Krenair: sorry, fr.wikipedia abuse language [03:29:16] Dereckson: is there a difference? i'm not sure how it affects things. is it bad to have both? [03:29:18] but yes, {{done}} [03:29:30] Not admissible here, I'll go to contrition. [03:29:32] (Deletion log); 03:28 . . Krenair (Talk | contribs | block) changed visibility of revisions on page File:Origin vs gerrit remotes.jpg ‎(Copyright violation) [03:30:01] terrrydactyl: I'll ask ^demon, Roan or saper to review these strange instructions. [03:30:19] Dereckson: okay thanks. [03:30:24] ...didn't we used to show what the change was? (e.g. show content/hide content/hide summary etc.) [03:30:58] Like this one on meta: 15:24, 1 January 2013 Trijnstel (talk | contribs) changed visibility of a revision on page Steward requests/Permissions: edit summary hidden (Hiding vandalism/attack) [03:33:50] Dereckson: isn't it pretty late where you are? [03:34:08] 4:34am [03:34:38] Dereckson: perfect time for serious work! [03:34:40] i'm a night owl too so i think we cancel each other's nightowlness, haha [03:35:14] i'm worried that i'll just sleep through the google hangout tomorrow. [03:35:32] at what time this is? [03:35:36] is that a MW thing or a community one? [03:35:49] it's 9am. it's for the outreach for women interns :) [03:36:03] interesting... :D [03:36:24] hopefully if i don't fall asleep through it [03:36:30] Krenair: do we have a template like this on MediaWiki? http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mod%C3%A8le:Bo%C3%AEte_d%C3%A9roulante [03:37:02] I don't know, sorry [03:37:08] i feel it would be more embrassing to get on and then look like i've obviously just woken up. [03:39:24] terrrydactyl: well... we generally use a combo of IRC and Google Hangout, with a YouTube stream available [03:39:40] So you aren't forced to stream video. [03:39:43] Should doing git status just hang? [03:40:00] ...granted I did it in the all extensions massive scary pile directory, but... [03:40:25] Isarra I've a 4 Gb Mercurial repo, it's sometimes slow :) [03:41:14] hg slow [03:42:08] According http://stevelosh.com/blog/2010/01/the-real-difference-between-mercurial-and-git/ who use both systems extensively, "Even the ones that aren’t factually incorrect often seem to focus on features and speed. While this may have been relevant in the past, both systems have borrowed so much from each other that I don’t think it’s a very big deal today.". 2010. [03:42:58] http://stevelosh.com/blog/2010/02/my-extravagant-zsh-prompt/ is awesome by the way [03:43:08] It says everything has been modified. [03:43:25] I didn't change anything on my end. [03:43:50] Did I break the repo or something? [03:47:44] With git, how do you abandon all changes? >.< [03:48:36] Barbarian way. rm every folder. Then a "git checkout ." to restore files as they were in HEAD. [03:48:49] * Isarra giggles. [03:49:11] "On cache tout sous le tapis" way. git stash. [03:49:20] That's interesting, when revdeleting file revisions you don't get any information in the log to show what about the visibility changed [03:50:05] Too much information would let folks in on... uh, wait, nevermind. [03:50:33] git-stash - Stash the changes in a dirty working directory away [03:50:36] So many extensions... [03:51:01] why don't you use one repo by extension? [03:51:25] Becausee all of them is only five times as many as I need! [03:51:28] instead of clone meta repo mediawiki/extensions, you clone only the mediawiki/extensions/alpha you need [03:52:14] * Dereckson counts 49. [03:52:31] * Isarra whistles. [03:52:33] (should be 48, I've CreditSource and CreditsSource) [03:52:50] 47 I've a folder migration for this case handling [03:53:03] It was forty-some last I counted. I learned not to count them after that. [03:53:21] ls -lh | wc [03:53:31] Of course since my aim with this pile is to actually use them, hopefully they won't need much changing. >.> [03:53:43] wc is a small utility to count word, line or characters [03:54:06] My terminal is tied up pulling. [03:54:26] Not that I have anywhere to count - it's all a rather jumbled and scattered config. [03:54:35] Ugh, and removing a completely unnecessary-looking (but probably critical) if condition fixes it. [03:54:37] Use a multiplexer. That will make your life in the terminal a lot more comfortable. [03:54:40] Of course. [03:54:50] I hate that sort of change. Maybe I'll upload the fix later [03:54:54] I have about ten terminals open. They're all doing different things. >.> [03:55:03] o_O [03:57:08] tmux allows you to divide your terminal screen. Horizontally. Vertically. Yet another time vertically. Or to have tabs. [03:57:45] One of my terminals has tabs. [03:57:53] I'm ignoring the not on top one. >.> [03:58:12] Hmm, apparently maintenance scripts don't work while the wiki is broken. [03:58:15] Who'd have known? [03:58:21] I've currently irssi on the 50% top of my screen, and below, screen is currently divided vertically. At left, a text editor, at right my git working space [03:58:40] I have three monitors. [03:58:47] Terminals are scattered everywhere. [03:58:54] By "divide" we mean -> http://tmux.sourceforge.net/tmux5.png [03:59:11] Yes but I would like to come back to your "git hanging" problem [03:59:20] It stopped hanging and went. [03:59:21] with tmux you can divide horizontally your screen [03:59:26] Boy, did it run. [03:59:32] have it hanging at the top [03:59:43] and go on with commands watching it going on at the bottom [04:00:02] With an xterm I can just leave it there while using other terminals. [04:00:05] Or I could. [04:00:10] If my brain could handle the strain. [04:00:19] This is where tmux is interesting. [04:00:34] Before using it, I only worked with app in fullscreen [04:01:04] you don't have to move anything with the mouse, position them [04:01:13] I like my mouse. [04:01:13] It comes very naturally. [04:01:26] "Oh I need to quickly execute this command" [04:01:37] Bouncing between three kate windows comes naturally to me. [04:01:39] ctrl + b, " > command, done, close with ctrl + d [04:01:47] What Kate is? [04:01:49] Although I'd like kate better if it weren't so damn slow. [04:01:53] Text editor. [04:02:09] Faster than gedit, but that's like comparing a caterpiller to a slug. [04:02:19] never used gedit [04:02:24] It's slow. [04:02:32] (only compiled it with all the gnome usual stuff) [04:03:04] New patchset: Alex Monk; "Show changed bits on file version (oldimage) revdel logs." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42072 [04:03:10] maybe depends on what you do with gedit [04:03:52] When I want to edit a quick text, I generally use nano. When I want a software who read my code documentation and autocompletes, I use ActiveState Komodo. [04:04:10] sometimes vi, for lines deleting operation [04:04:33] I'm using it now to edit 4 files no problem [04:04:58] causative > never trust people saying an application is slow is a social rule [04:05:41] I use emacs when I'm writing python or some other language emacs supports [04:06:16] otherwise I use gedit or some other other windows-like editor, cuz it's easier [04:06:22] New patchset: Alex Monk; "Show changed bits on file version (oldimage) revdel logs." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42072 [04:06:33] Some statements could be more interesting: "When I open Komodo on my AMD 750 Mhz with 128 Mb RAM, cpu goes to 100% for one minute, while he's loading syntax highlighting and others components" [04:06:55] (Komodo is great for Python by the way) [04:08:54] i'm really keen on sublime text at the moment [04:10:55] sublime is fancy [04:11:16] haven't used it myself, just saw other people using it and liking it [04:13:24] 03(NEW) Support third-party use by eliminating hard dependency on Varnish - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43601 normal; MediaWiki extensions: EventLogging; () [04:15:26] Can you use wfSuppressWarnings(); to make a piece of crap extension stop making php complain? [04:15:43] Not in the extension, but... like, around the extension or something? [04:17:01] could you just not fix the extension? [04:18:03] I used it some hours, it were beautiful and nice. [04:18:06] No. [04:18:10] *could you not just fix the [04:18:12] I recommend it to graphist people or people with an iPhone. [04:18:15] They are happy with. [04:18:20] The fix for that extension is to not use it. [04:18:27] Unfortunately that is not an option at present. [04:18:45] you could file bugs against said extension also [04:18:47] Isarra: could you give me the bugs numbers? [04:19:20] I will be happy to help an extension to be more PHP 5.x compliant. [04:19:24] The sort of people who might file bugs against it tend to prefer to hurl it into a flaming pit. [04:20:16] Yes, but as a member of the MediaWiki community, you have a quality assurance moral duty to report such bugs when you encounter them :) [04:20:41] I'm too afraid to look. [04:20:47] It's this. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:DynamicPageList_(third-party) [04:20:53] Don't look and report by copy/paste? [04:21:03] Bug: It exploded. [04:21:08] Bug: It's not working. [04:21:09] just use the proper DPL? [04:21:31] Doesn't support template usage stuff. [04:22:24] * Dereckson is going to sleep.  [04:22:34] Dream well. [04:22:41] Thank you. Create at least a bug requiring to test DynamicPageList against master version. [04:22:48] Is there any way to locally suppress warning? [04:22:54] Test for what? [04:24:02] "DynamicPageList produces PHP errors when installed on a 1.21 wiki. Issues should be analysed and reported. This could evolves in a tracking bug." [04:24:10] Here your bug text suggestion. [04:24:32] so you don't want to file a bug or two so people, for example the extension mantainer, can actually fix it for people (eg: those besides yourself) that want to use it? those as the ones i want to hurl into a flaming pit [04:24:33] Link to report it: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=MediaWiki%20extensions&component=DynamicPageList2 [04:24:41] It produces errors on 1.19 and 1.20. I dunno about 1.21. [04:25:07] just fill the bug [04:25:29] I don't exactly have anything to link to, either. [04:25:45] It's a placeholder bug so we know we have to check this extension. [04:25:53] you don't need to link to anything [04:26:00] just describe the issues the best you can [04:26:06] It's horrible. [04:26:14] eg: "the extension is broken and needs to be looked at" [04:26:16] That's an issue, right? [04:27:52] Yes. Translated in call for action, "horrible" should be described in termes of "UI and ergonomy issues". [04:28:17] The source is what's horrible. The front looks the same as the other one. [04:28:24] It just does more. [04:28:30] Which is the problem. [04:29:12] Sorry, I'm... not helping matters any. [04:30:01] "Code isn't readable. It should be cleaned or refactored." [04:30:12] and you add a dependency to tracking bug 700 (code quality issues) [04:30:39] (ie you add 700 in the field "blocks") [04:33:47] 03(NEW) It makes php unhappy. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43602 normal; MediaWiki extensions: DynamicPageList2; () [04:35:30] Is there any way to selectively suppress notices and warnings that would otherwise be spewed at the top of the page? [04:35:47] Instead of killing them all like would probably want to do on a production wiki... [04:36:07] Isarra: http://php.net/manual/en/language.operators.errorcontrol.php [04:36:12] but…. very… very… bad idea [04:36:20] kittens will die [04:36:42] I'm using an extension that is already inherently a bad idea. [04:36:52] I know it's a bad idea. [04:37:14] Having it screaming everywhere it's used doesn't make my skull any happier. [04:37:32] ah yes :) [04:37:51] but of course my internal moral compass (or something like that?) wouldn't let me post a link to that without talking about dad kittens [04:37:58] If the thing mysteriously dies, it's probably the second thing to get the blame. [04:38:16] The first thing being me. >.> [04:38:53] :D [04:39:25] I murdered the server. [04:39:32] ah [04:39:38] did you have a Gun license? [04:39:43] Nope. [04:40:44] ah [04:41:04] * Isarra panics and clings to yuvipanda. [04:41:22] Isarra: removed the @? still dead? [04:41:46] Can you use a @ with an extension? >.> [04:42:04] ...with the entire extension? [04:42:20] you can use that with any PHP code [04:42:34] you'll have to put that in the line that the warnings represent [04:42:39] you see the line numbers on the warnings no? [04:42:41] you'llh ave to put them there [04:42:55] Buckets. [04:48:23] THIS. This is why I go to so much trouble to try to get things working. To support this kind of thing. http://en.illogicopedia.org/wiki/An_article_consisting_of_nothing_more_that_twenty-three_pictures_of_cake [04:49:51] * yuvipanda looks [04:53:07] Isarra: wat [04:53:27] Such content should be made consistently and reliably available such that all can be enlightened by its... uh... enlightenedness. [04:53:36] ...cake is tasty? [04:53:51] I don't like cake [04:53:58] I'm sorry. [04:53:59] unless it is one specific form of chocolate [04:54:39] I know, lots of people are dissapointed by my lack of wonderfulness about cake [04:54:55] I'm not terribly fond of pie. [04:55:09] brb [05:02:53] 03(NEW) Edits as 127.0.0.1 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43603 normal; MediaWiki extensions: OpenStackManager; () [05:03:35] New patchset: Ori.livneh; "(WIP) Add supervisor configs" [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41934 [05:03:54] New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Standardize headers and arg parsing" [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42033 [05:05:13] New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Standardize headers and arg parsing" [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42033 [05:05:31] 03(mod) Edits as 127.0.0.1 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43603 (10jeremyb) [05:26:09] 03(NEW) Don't create or delete instance pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43604 normal; MediaWiki extensions: OpenStackManager; () [05:26:46] 03(mod) Don't create or delete instance pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43604 (10jeremyb) [05:28:52] What does Title->moveTo do? Move it? [05:28:58] Where is this stuff? [05:29:52] look at the function and see? [05:29:58] Where is it? [05:30:12] grep it? [05:30:19] You [05:30:22] 're very helpful. [05:31:02] Me and Susan share the metal in that regards, or at least used to. [05:31:09] Since I don't code. [05:31:29] s/metal/medal/ [05:31:46] RTFS. * [05:36:13] New review: Mwjames; "Hi Karsten, you are a life saver. I'm absolutely thankful for your corporation which gives me time t..." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41939 [05:39:30] New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Add supervisor configs" [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41934 [05:49:09] Isarra: found it? [05:50:49] I have no idea! [05:51:06] * Isarra hugs jeremyb. [05:52:26] Isarra: well there should be a file called Title.php with a function called moveTo in it? [05:52:58] Oh, right, there was a thing. I found it and it worked and AAAAAGH PANIC WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE. [05:53:05] I mean... [05:53:59] * jeremyb doesn't quite know what to make of that [05:54:06] anyway, my guess was right: [05:54:06] mediawiki-core$ find -name Title.php [05:54:07] ./includes/Title.php [05:54:37] check the svn docs? [05:55:23] legoktm: ? [05:55:43] Yeah, those docs are shiny. [05:55:48] https://svn.wikimedia.org/doc/search.php?query=moveTo [05:56:03] https://svn.wikimedia.org/doc/classTitle.html#a5e943e80bd029ad5975e4324e25c1931 [05:56:17] legoktm: Will you fix a git for me? We need a development environment. [05:56:26] I don't even know what that MEANS. [05:56:28] Er I uh, what? [05:56:33] Exactly@ [05:56:34] ! [05:56:34] ok, you just typed an exclamation mark with no meaning in the channel, good job. If you want to see a list of all keys, check !botbrain [05:56:49] hah! you didn't want the bot i thinks [05:56:49] @wm-bot ! [05:57:02] Isarra: have you tried using labs instances yet? [05:57:07] you could make an environment there [05:57:22] That... would probably be sensible, but labs scares me. [05:57:41] it will be maybe 4-5 days before i might have spare time to help you navigate labs [05:57:42] Isarra: What are you trying to do? [05:58:00] Not break uncyclopedia when trying to change configs. [05:58:28] You mean something like a test.uncyc environment? [05:58:44] ...I dunno! [05:58:50] oh, they want a srv193 ;-) [05:58:57] jeremyb: a what? [05:58:57] Some sort of... clone. Of the main one. >.> [05:58:59] !srv193 [05:59:06] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/New_repositories/Requests [05:59:06] heh, that doesn't work [05:59:14] did you mean that? [05:59:17] Isarra: something like test.wikipedia.org right? [05:59:45] More like test2. [06:00:08] Heh. I'll look into it. I'll be back in a few hours [06:00:22] <3 [06:00:36] !test is http://wikitech.wikimedia.org/view/Srv193 [06:00:36] This key already exist - remove it, if you want to change it [06:00:39] err [06:00:44] !srv193 is http://wikitech.wikimedia.org/view/Srv193 [06:00:45] Key was added [06:03:38] jeremyb: Isn't it something like !srv 193?? (/me looks) [06:04:22] Matthew_: huh? [06:04:30] you could ask the botbrain but i doubt it [06:05:22] jeremyb: I could have swore there was already a command for a server link. [06:05:28] Screw it [06:05:30] !botbrain [06:05:30] Hello, I'm wm-bot. The database for this channel is published at http://bots.wmflabs.org/~petrb/db/%23mediawiki.htm More about WM-Bot: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/wm-bot [06:05:48] what's a "server link" [06:06:02] jeremyb: The key you just added :P [06:06:03] i think not every apache's going to have it's own wikitech article [06:07:39] jeremyb: I may be an idiot, that appears to be for labs *headdesk* [06:08:51] haha [06:28:23] the problem with being in college [06:28:28] keep drifting between work and sleep [06:28:49] Isarra: what extension is this? [06:28:53] Isarra: also what tz are you on? [06:30:14] I have no idea, and I... uh... [06:30:17] * Isarra hides. [06:30:29] What extension is what? [06:30:57] Isarra: th eone causing you problems with warnings? [06:31:04] Oh. [06:31:09] DynamicPageList. [06:31:17] The... not so nice one. [06:31:20] ah [06:33:58] 03(mod) meta "ResourceLoaderDynamicStyles" tag does not pass W3C Markup Validator - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38630 +comment (10Krinkle) [06:49:05] Man, I wish I knew sql. [06:49:18] You're learning! [06:49:39] How do you cross-table select? >.> [06:49:50] * Isarra reaches across Susan's table to demonstrate. [06:50:08] That would be called a JOIN. [06:50:19] You can't JOIN cross-database. [06:50:30] But you can most certainly JOIN two tables on the same host. [06:50:30] * Isarra joins Susan to a box of juice. [06:50:37] Err, cross-host. * [06:50:48] Cross-database is fine, you just have to be explicit. [06:51:22] Isarra: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/MySQL_queries [06:51:29] Maybe you'll be inspired by that page. [06:51:32] I want to delete a bunch of revisions I accidentally inserted along with their text entries. So I have to... join between the tables to do that? [06:51:36] Blaaargh. [06:51:47] Probably. [06:51:51] This'll teach me to use a damn test database to screw up. [06:52:31] * Isarra collapses on Susan. [06:52:43] Be my squishy, precious. [06:52:47] Harder. [06:56:31] You know, if you type from from in the middle of the query... [06:56:37] ...it doesn't work. [06:56:59] I did know. [06:57:08] I did too. [06:57:17] But that didn't stop me from being surprised. [06:57:27] :o [06:58:01] Yay ZNC setup! [06:58:28] I have to join this thing with page too? [06:58:46] It's like fuzing aliens to cows, man. [06:59:04] If you pastebin your query, I may be able to help. [06:59:06] is this a production db, or one you can just blow away again? [06:59:31] There are few people who know the MediaWiki database schema better than me. [06:59:43] What would 'delete from revision join text on rev_text_id = old_id where rev_timestamp > 20130102064115;' do? [06:59:58] Would that delete all the revisions since then? [07:00:11] Hmmm. [07:00:21] Isn't there a maintenance script that already does that? [07:00:23] Try with select first. [07:00:32] It selected those revisions! [07:00:36] There were 143. [07:00:43] You're comfortable with deleting those 143 rows? [07:00:45] That doesn't seem like enough. [07:01:33] Susan: I want them dead. [07:01:44] DEAD. [07:02:56] Er, what's the syntax to kill them? [07:06:46] 03(mod) width of wpSummary in Vector - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/20276 summary (10Krinkle) [07:06:49] New patchset: Amire80; "Add test for substitution of params with multiple digits" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41964 [07:07:47] 03(NEW) Enable E3 on it.wikivoyage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43605 normal; Wikimedia: Extension setup; () [07:07:55] 03(mod) Enable E3 on it.wikivoyage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43605 (10Emanuele Raoli) [07:08:12] 03(mod) Enable E3 on it.wikivoyage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43605 +shell (10Emanuele Raoli) [07:08:19] 03(mod) Enable E3 on it.wikivoyage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43605 (10Emanuele Raoli) [07:13:14] Isarra: the 'delete from' query should kill them [07:15:15] But how do I have it delete the right ones? [07:15:27] I just want it to delete the new ones based on timestamps in revision. >.< [07:15:43] delete from revision where rev_id=whatever; [07:16:47] delete from revision where rev_id > whatever [07:16:50] whatever whatever whatever [07:16:52] I want to delete from text where old_id = rev_text_id where rev_timestamp... stuff. [07:17:23] er wait. just delete the text field? [07:17:25] And weirdness in text precludes me from just lopping off the top, unfortunately. [07:17:34] Text is a different table. [07:17:47] * yuvipanda backs off… slowly [07:18:13] >.> [07:19:24] sorry, my SQL certification has been taken away by a bunch of women. [07:19:52] I'm a painter. [07:20:58] I'm an unemployed student [07:22:14] I'm... also an unemployed student? [07:22:41] I'm not. [07:25:58] Susan is just a unemployed rude irc helper >.> [07:26:21] an unemployed * [07:28:30] New patchset: Mwjames; "SRF\EventCalendar SMWAPI/Ajax integration" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41939 [07:46:11] New review: Siebrand; "L10n support for the SemanticResultsFormat extension will be removed at translatewiki.net. mwjames' ..." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41939 [07:50:14] New patchset: Amire80; "Fix the wrapping of the language selector" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42074 [07:52:38] New review: Siebrand; "Same approval as for PS2." [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master); V: 0 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41042 [07:59:12] New review: Mwjames; "So, after I fought myself over whether to invest more time on this change or not here it is this imp..." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41939 [08:07:24] New patchset: Matthias Mullie; "DataModel" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27981 [08:09:51] New patchset: Siebrand; "Remove support for SemanticResultFormats" [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42076 [08:13:41] I've got an extension which uses the ParserBeforeStrip hook, but I only want to apply my modifications to the main page content, not interface messages etc. Anyone know how I distinguish between them from within the callback? [08:18:35] Change merged: Siebrand; [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42076 [08:19:00] New patchset: Matthias Mullie; "Refactor AFT backend" [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24264 [08:23:56] New patchset: Amire80; "Fix the background placement for ltr and rtl languages" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42077 [08:25:07] New patchset: Amire80; "Fix the background placement for ltr and rtl languages" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42077 [08:37:39] Hi, I want to add a Share(to SNS) button to every page, may I ask how can I control the position of the button? I want the button located right to the title of entry while above the contents. [08:43:12] Insert it with JavaScriot? [08:43:18] JavaScript [08:46:20] ping Siebrand [08:46:34] bleg [08:46:39] ping siebrand [08:48:34] Susan: More specifically, I want to use wgOut->addHTML(). How can I control position in this way? [08:49:14] 03(mod) Create Wikivoyage Spanish - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42933 +comment (10This, that and the other) [08:50:08] Coiby: with the html that you inject? [08:51:29] p858snake|l: Yes. You can see from http://wiki.aiesec.cn/index.php?title=Test, the button is below the title which looks ugly. [08:55:02] New patchset: Yurik; "API Query smart-continue mode" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42070 [08:59:33] are there any security issues with using floatval() with a client parameter? [09:19:39] New patchset: Raimond Spekking; "Rename i18n file -> i18n.magic" [mediawiki/extensions/Git2Pages] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42079 [09:28:06] New patchset: Raimond Spekking; "Add i18n file" [mediawiki/extensions/Polyglot] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42080 [09:45:25] New patchset: IAlex; "Add test for substitution of params with multiple digits" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41964 [09:50:02] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41964 [09:55:28] Dereckson: will have a look at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/42031/ and https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/39503/, thank. [09:59:05] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "This seems a bit odd. What about serializing the object before stuffing it into memc and then deseri..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42037 [10:14:31] 03(mod) Handling of # URIs is broken in SMW (1.8.0) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43264 +comment (10Andreas Plank) [10:27:56] Hi, the result obtained via Article->getContent in mediawiki will contain wiki-related symbles like "=:;". Is there a way to get more clear results? [10:32:36] Coiby: what do you mean by "more clear"? [10:32:50] you want to have it parsed to HTML? [10:36:36] saper: I don't want HTML tags. My purpose to to cut 80 characters out of the contents to share to twitter. [10:38:12] hi.. i have a mediawiki install that got broken in some way and i'm trying to figure out how it happened and how to restore it.. all pages show the same response: "No such action" [10:53:27] How do I set up an alias so I can do ssh://review/mediawiki again? [10:55:19] New patchset: IAlex; "Block::parseTarget() accepts and can return null" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42082 [10:55:25] JeroenDeDauw: edit ~/.ssh/config, add Host review \n Hostname real_hostname \n User your_username [10:56:08] ah! [10:56:11] valhallasw: thanks :) [10:57:23] 03(mod) wfSuppressWarnings() should suppress E_STRICT warnings - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43594 +comment (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) [10:59:56] 03(mod) Remove ability-to-remove-bureaucrat from en.wiktionary bureaucrats - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42113 summary; +comment (10Ran Ari-Gur (User:Ruakh on WMF projects)) [11:04:59] 03(mod) Update Wikivoyage logo where applicable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43565 +comment (10This, that and the other) [11:11:53] New review: Denny Vrandecic; "As said, I think it's an improvement on the current situation. Furthermore it is well capsulated in ..." [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaMessages] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/38906 [11:20:11] 03(mod) Lots of "Notice: Undefined offset: 1" PHP warnings - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43602 normal->minor; summary; +comment (10Andre Klapper) [11:23:11] 03(mod) Remove ability-to-remove-bureaucrat from en.wiktionary bureaucrats - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42113 +comment (10Snowolf) [11:24:05] 03(mod) Re-enable Squid updates in HTMLCacheUpdate - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43341 +comment (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) [11:28:52] 03(mod) Autocategorization by UploadWizard makes [[:commons:Category:Uploaded with UploadWizard]] uselessly large - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42548 +comment (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) [11:38:59] 03(mod) Restore normal bureaucrat permissions where changed without consensus - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42105 +comment (10Nemo) [11:50:29] New patchset: devunt; "now user can login with there email (bug/28025)" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42084 [11:51:53] 03(mod) allow login with email as well as username - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28085 +comment (10JuneHyeon Bae) [12:05:01] 03(mod) Entity selector should set input value when setting the entity programmatically - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43363 (10tobias.gritschacher) [12:08:27] 03(mod) problems with 0 as a label - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43585 +comment (10Wikidata Bot) [12:27:52] man, i hate januaries [12:27:58] gonna be 43 tomorrow :( [12:32:32] 03(mod) Flushing an explicit transaction, getting out of sync! - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43576 (10Andre Klapper) [12:33:49] 03(mod) deleted image shows in wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38212 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [12:49:38] New review: Nikerabbit; "The language code validation functions are not that useful to expose to the users, also considering ..." [mediawiki/extensions/Scribunto] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42050 [12:49:49] 03(NEW) [selenium] more tests for statements UI - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43606 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; () [12:49:55] 03(mod) [selenium] more tests for statements UI - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43606 (10tobias.gritschacher) [12:51:06] New review: Demon; "Yeah, those notices are from what I was talking about yesterday. We need to get the tar's name and t..." [mediawiki/extensions/ExtensionDistributor] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37478 [12:51:09] New review: Nikerabbit; "No @since, no release notes. If this only for WMF why not add a hook instead?" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42061 [12:53:31] 03(mod) gerrit-wm stops reporting in #mediawiki after a netsplit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43112 +comment (10Chad H.) [12:54:00] 03(mod) ircecho does not handle netsplits well - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43112 summary (10Chad H.) [12:54:25] 03(mod) [selenium] more tests for statements UI - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43606 (10tobias.gritschacher) [13:09:20] New review: Siebrand; "Please add the new key to messages.inc. Details are at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/I18n#Adding_new..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42084 [13:16:40] New patchset: Amire80; "WIP: Improving saving feedback" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42086 [13:25:59] 03(mod) Gerrit fails on IE 10 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41559 +comment (10Chad H.) [13:26:29] New patchset: devunt; "add new key to messages.inc" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42084 [13:27:34] New review: Denny Vrandecic; "Tried out and works well." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41562 [13:29:30] New patchset: Zfilipin; "Cleanup: mobile search feature moved to MobileFrontent repository" [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42087 [13:31:58] 03(NEW) Getting errors with Validator 0.5.x and MediaWiki 1.19.3 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43607 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Validator; () [13:32:32] 03(mod) Getting errors with Validator 0.5.x and MediaWiki 1.19.3 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43607 (10Fabrice LÉCAUDÉ) [13:37:48] New patchset: Zfilipin; "Cleanup: mobile search feature moved to MobileFrontent repository" [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42087 [13:39:05] New review: Zfilipin; "Added link to MobileFrontend tests." [qa/browsertests] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42087 [13:39:06] mitevam: hello and happy new year! [13:39:43] sumana: hi, happy new year to you too, I actually just sent you an email :) [13:39:49] * sumanah looks [13:41:42] mitevam: do you have a preference re: whether I answer you here or in email? [13:42:13] mitevam: Recommendation: get a desktop IRC client (such as XChat or Chatzilla) so that you have logs locally [13:42:28] 03(mod) deleted image shows in wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38212 +comment (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) [13:43:08] sumanah: ok I will do that, it will be helpful to be able to go back [13:43:14] mitevam: it really is, yeah [13:43:41] sumanah: do you happen know anyone who could help me to configure ssl certs "properly"? [13:43:46] to web server [13:43:53] sumanah: ok, will do now, i have no preference otherwise [13:44:21] Nikerabbit: I presume WMF Operations knows how to do it -- is this a non-WMF thing? [13:44:47] sumanah: kind of, translatewiki.net [13:45:53] mitevam: so, you asked - "I only read the last couple of months of threads on the lists you mentioned I should follow. I wasn't sure if you wanted me to skim other lists as well?" [13:46:18] mitevam: I think it's not quite useful yet for you to look at lists other than wikitech-l, mediawiki-enterprise, and perhaps mediawiki-l [13:46:28] ah there's one more, lemme find it [13:46:45] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-distributors [13:47:09] <`Winslow> is there an easy way to redirect all user profiles on the wiki to an external site? i have vbulletin user accounts linked to my wiki and i want to redirect to the forum profile [13:49:02] mitevam: I should have specifically mentioned http://commtechtheorysociety.com/about/ -- the dissertation is at http://commtechtheorysociety.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/dissertation-randall-livingstone-final-w-revisions-21.pdf (the one that includes a summary of how the Wikimedia technical workflow works) [13:50:24] sumanah: yes I was confused about this one, I was going to ask, i found many links with all kinds of information there [13:50:41] sumanah: i have to go back to that and read it [13:50:45] sorry! that website changed since the last time I had visited and I should have double-checked before emailing. [13:52:55] its ok, I had plenty of other readings to keep me busy :) [13:53:27] sumanah: let me leave here and try to connect through xchat [13:57:47] sumanah: ok i am not on xchat with logs on [13:57:58] hi mitevam :) [13:58:04] mitevam: so I'll just repeat -- I should have specifically mentioned http://commtechtheorysociety.com/about/ -- the dissertation is at http://commtechtheorysociety.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/dissertation-randall-livingstone-final-w-revisions-21.pdf (the one that includes a summary of how the Wikimedia technical workflow works) [13:58:12] sorry that was "i am NOW on xchat " [13:58:25] so you have that in your logs. also https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-distributors + wikitech-l, mediawiki-enterprise, and perhaps mediawiki-l are the lists you ought to look at [13:58:38] Nikerabbit: I guess you could just ask in #wikimedia-operations? [13:59:08] maybe they'll give you some advice... and I presume petan knows how to configure this stuff as well [13:59:46] mitevam: I have to go and will be back online in an hour, [13:59:58] sumanah: ok, thank you :) [14:00:18] sumanah: OK, I will be here, talk to you later [14:00:29] mitevam: but I have a few min in case you have any immediate blockers [14:01:10] not really, i still have the dissertation and the goals to go through so I will easily keep myself busy [14:01:41] okay! thanks and best wishes [14:02:22] sucheta: oki [14:02:28] sumanah* [14:17:13] Nikerabbit: :P [14:17:44] 03(NEW) User skin preview works with other URLs too - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43608 normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; () [14:22:01] New patchset: Amire80; "Fix the wrapping of the language selector" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42074 [14:24:40] New review: Siebrand; "Oops. It looks like you changed your commit summary when amending the patch set. That's not needed." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42084 [14:26:24] 03(NEW) [statements-ui] prevent from adding non-existent item as property-value - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43609 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; () [14:27:13] 03(mod) User skin preview works with other URLs too - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43608 +comment (10Daniel Friesen) [14:43:31] 03(mod) Create Wikivoyage Spanish - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42933 +comment (10Dereckson) [14:47:29] 03(mod) Update Wikivoyage logo where applicable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43565 +comment (10Dereckson) [14:49:05] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42077 [14:51:12] sucheta: der? [14:57:23] New patchset: devunt; "now user can login with there email instead of username" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42084 [14:58:28] siebrand, change commit message back :p [14:58:37] *changed [15:00:16] How can I make my wiki uneditable from people without my manual permission? [15:00:38] I'd like to limit, so that only people that I (manually) register will have a right to edit [15:00:54] Aleksander, can you edit LocalSettings.php? [15:02:55] devunt, but which option in LocalSettings lets me do that? I'm confused with all email confirmation etc [15:02:55] Aleksander, add [15:02:55] $wgGroupPermissions['*']['createaccount'] = false; [15:02:56] $wgGroupPermissions['*']['edit'] = false; [15:02:56] $wgGroupPermissions['user']['edit'] = true; [15:03:07] at bottom of LocalSettings.php [15:03:10] ow, so it's just grouppermission [15:03:13] thanks a lot :D [15:03:23] np [15:07:20] harshkothari, sorry for http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2013-January/009100.html & co. I didn't expect this reaction from some members of the Wikimedia India community... [15:08:02] harshkothari, I'll keep trying doing my best helping, although at some point I wonder how not-helpful is the fact that I'm a WMF employee and not-Indian... [15:08:35] and do you know if there's a stable version of extension: ConfirmUserEmail? I've pasted one from mediawiki to my config, but it breaks down the whole LocalConfig.php [15:08:35] They want only politics qgil [15:09:15] harshkothari, the last thing I need is to enter Indian politics myself. :) I'm hoping to circunvent this. [15:15:28] * yuvipanda___ waves at qgil  [15:16:08] New patchset: Aklapper; "(bug 22170) Bugzilla frontpage: make commons tasks easier accessible" [wikimedia/bugzilla/modifications] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42089 [15:16:20] mitevam: I'm back! In case you have any questions or concerns [15:16:25] although I now have a meeting in 16 min [15:16:27] New review: Zfilipin; "The test fails:" [qa/browsertests] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42036 [15:16:51] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Add robustness to storage of sites list in memc" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42090 [15:17:02] hi YuviPanda :) Somehow I ended upo subscribing to wikimedia-india... [15:17:38] New review: Aklapper; "Note that the CSS file also requires the existence of report.png but it seems that we have accidenti..." [wikimedia/bugzilla/modifications] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42089 [15:17:41] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "My go at it: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/42090/" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42037 [15:17:57] hi andre__ chrismcmahon & guillom :) happy not-so-new year [15:18:05] 03(mod) Customise Bugzilla front page to have more useful links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22170 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [15:18:08] hi sumanah [15:18:09] hola sumanah! [15:18:15] to you too! [15:19:06] sumanah: I'm temporarily on my laptop, which I recently reinstalled. I'd appreciate if you could send the G+ invite soonish to make sure I have all the necessary packages / plugins installed before the meeting starts. [15:19:16] qgil: heh :) [15:19:16] okay! [15:19:22] thanks! [15:19:46] qgil: the last thing *I* want is to enter the poltics either. Sigh. [15:19:50] * sumanah should just add that to the calendar invite [15:20:18] New review: Zfilipin; "You should move the code to MobileFrontend repository, since the rest of mobile tests is there now." [qa/browsertests] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42036 [15:20:49] sumanah: i am reading the dissertation, no questions in particular [15:20:53] YuviPanda, there seams to be fear, uncertainty and doubt in relation to Wikimedia political power and funding, which MediuaWiki Groups are certainly not about... But well, I'll keep helping clarifying things [15:20:54] okay! [15:21:28] in the meantime, I need to get ready for the imminent weekly meeting with sumanah, guillom & co :) [15:21:47] * sumanah starts looking at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Platform_Engineering [15:22:03] qgil: :) [15:22:15] i'm looking for the logs of that long discussion, will reply with that [15:24:35] YuviPanda, do you know Theo10011, and his motivations to take that topic so _enthusiastically_? [15:25:07] 03(mod) All labels and lang codes displayed as English - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43595 +comment (10Jeroen De Dauw) [15:30:37] chrismcmahon: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Continuous_integration is the one QA activity that could use a more current status for Dec [15:34:35] qgil: I don't really 'know' know him, but he does seem to take most things eriously [15:35:02] qgil: I've a feeling that talking to someone like Oliver or Moonriddengirl might be of help here. [15:35:25] qgil: so, the bot has no logs for the day that discussion was had [15:36:28] 03(mod) Enable Narayam on the Javanese projects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39960 +comment (10bennylin) [15:40:34] Can I create a category of pages, which would be accessible ony for registered users? [15:43:04] New review: Bennylin; "How do I update the ext.narayam.rules.jv.js file? Should I open a new bug, or should I add a new pat..." [mediawiki/extensions/Narayam] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26009 [15:56:12] New patchset: Aklapper; "(bug 42467) Replace "Zarro Boogs found" in Bugzilla by "Zero reports found"" [wikimedia/bugzilla/modifications] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42094 [15:57:25] andre__++ that "Zarro" has always bugged me. [15:57:51] 03(mod) "Zarro Boogs found" is unhelpful - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42467 +patch-in-gerrit; +comment (10Andre Klapper) [15:57:57] * andre__ slowly becoming a coder (that he never wanted to be) :P [15:58:15] 03(mod) Customise Bugzilla front page to have more useful links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22170 +patch-in-gerrit (10Andre Klapper) [16:03:54] 03(mod) All labels and lang codes displayed as English - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43595 +comment (10Marius Hoch) [16:07:18] New review: Amire80; "Ptach set, if you can." [mediawiki/extensions/Narayam] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26009 [16:10:02] qgil: I've responded. [16:10:14] Oliver gave me bits of advice, which I think were useful. [16:10:56] :) [16:12:53] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "Why and how does serialization solve the problem? Wasn't serialization already implicitly performed ..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42090 [16:13:40] hi DanielK_WMDE - happy new year! [16:14:39] * Ulfr is just glad holiday season is over. [16:14:46] nod [16:14:49] * DanielK_WMDE resists the temptation to post ascii fireworks [16:15:00] happy new year sumanah :) [16:15:04] ...and everyone else, of course! [16:15:10] xD [16:16:04] sumanah: I was wondering if you could help me find somebody who can help me make Semantic Forms and Chrome coexist [16:16:11] * YuviPanda throws U+1F387 at DanielK_WMDE  [16:16:12] right now they get along about as well as a cat and a dog [16:17:10] Ulfr: have you talked to Yaron about that? [16:17:11] Ulfr: Well, I know YuviPanda knows a bit about Chrome [16:17:14] YuviPanda: headesplode! [16:17:19] Ulfr: also, yes, what Saruman said :) [16:17:36] I wasn't sure if the yaron in chat was the right one [16:17:40] I believe it is. [16:17:41] DanielK_WMDE: I was acting against IRC fire safety regulations when I threw that at you. Sorry! [16:17:44] it is! [16:18:08] * Ulfr uses chrome himself, but absolutely detests it when his users do [16:18:19] gives them too much information that can lead to a panic [16:18:23] DanielK_WMDE: so, Hungarian Wikipedia gets to enjoy Wikidata soon? [16:18:23] 03(mod) Show "email" instead of "login" as field label - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24992 (10Andre Klapper) [16:18:24] Ulfr: I use Semantic Forms together with Chrome all the time. [16:18:47] yaron: And it works fine! the only thing I'm having a problem with is add multiple and image uploading [16:19:23] If you look in the Javascript console, are there any error messages there? [16:19:28] I wish ;; [16:19:34] I could solve it myself if that was the case [16:19:57] Okay, so no JS errors... what are the problems - do those two not work at all? [16:20:10] If I want to block non-registered users from reading Talk pages, do I have to install NamespacePermission extension? [16:20:11] sumanah: soon, yes. we'll be finalizing the schedule with rob at 6pm CET. join if you like! [16:20:19] (in 40 minutes) [16:20:51] DanielK_WMDE: :( I have another meeting then. But I will follow the outputs with interest [16:20:56] yaron: Initially add multiple did work, but the image upload didn't. Then I created my own show on select script and I can no longer add multiple [16:21:05] Oh. [16:21:15] That script might be the issue, then. :) [16:21:32] What versions of SF and MW are you using, by the way? And what skin? [16:22:11] Also - this conversation would probably be better in the #semantic-mediawiki channel. [16:22:16] SF: 2.2.1 MW: 1.19.2 [16:22:18] hi Waldir! [16:22:33] hi sumanah :) [16:22:41] yaron: I'm using Monobook personally, and my users use Vector [16:22:44] I need help with a gerrit error [16:22:48] Well, you should definitely upgrade your version of SF, then - that one's pretty old. [16:23:10] Oh, oops. [16:23:20] I got this when doing git review: [16:23:20] ! [remote rejected] HEAD -> refs/publish/master/UI-tweaks (missing Change-Id in commit message) [16:23:29] error: failed to push some refs to 'ssh://waldir@gerrit.wikimedia.org:29418/mediawiki/extensions/Configure.git' [16:23:53] andre__, do you have the access to do that change? [16:24:18] Thehelpfulone, not sure which "that change", but lilkely not [16:24:28] * andre__ didn't follow here [16:24:30] andre__, heh sorry the bugzilla one re changing the template [16:24:40] ah. Nope, no shell access here. [16:24:45] sumanah: who should I ask for help? [16:25:14] <^demon> Thehelpfulone: Everything for bz is owned by root:root. Even those of us with shell access to kaulen (/me included) can't do anything. [16:25:43] does it need to be owned by root because kaulen is just for bugzilla? [16:25:52] ^demon: True, makes sense now that you say. so s/shell/ops [16:26:12] YuviPanda, good answer [16:26:16] Change abandoned: Anonymous Coward; "moving to mobilefrontend" [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37771 [16:26:22] or is there a way of making it so shell users like you can do it (withotu compromising on security) [16:26:25] without* [16:26:30] <^demon> Answer is "no it probably doesn't need to me" and "puppetizing it would eliminate the problem." [16:26:38] <^demon> *to be [16:26:43] ^demon: did you really just use puppetizing in a sentence? [16:26:44] good show. [16:27:03] <^demon> puppet works in all forms of speech :) [16:27:08] when git gives me a 503 trying to get the latest repo is that a problem on my end or git's? [16:27:25] ^demon: I still need more bribing skills to trick somebody into puppetizing Bugzilla, but I'll get there in the long run [16:27:28] qgil: :) [16:27:35] qgil: any word from affcom? [16:28:23] ^demon, also see PM [16:28:48] I'd first love to get reviews in Gerrit, then I'd file an RT ticket [16:29:08] YuviPanda, Bence and Noopur are from AffCom and they are active in that discussion [16:29:13] oh [16:29:22] i didn't realize noopur was affcom [16:29:37] YuviPanda, er... I think so (I'm bad remembering names) [16:29:43] yaron: Sorry to bother again, but git's giving me this error: RPC failed; result=22, HTTP code = 503 [16:29:47] i don't think so [16:29:50] Fabulous extension btw, saves me so much time! [16:30:04] i guess she would've told me if that was the case? [16:30:20] Ulfr: sorry, I can't help with Git questions, even if I wrote the code that's being downloaded. :( [16:30:33] Thanks, though. [16:30:48] andre__, where am I looking for the review? [16:30:55] yaron: Like, seriously. Forms I have to code in MW that aren't done with your extension aren't any kind of fun [16:31:10] noopur is not in affcon [16:31:42] Well, creating a form is never that fun, alas. [16:31:57] YuviPanda, I guess not: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee [16:32:11] jQuery makes it suck less, but I really wish I didn't have to define tables all on one line of code to work right [16:32:45] ^demon: Me and Git are in a fight, I want an extension, and git tells me this: RPC failed; result=22, HTTP code = 503 Can you mediate? :o [16:32:59] I don't understand the tables thing. [16:33:12] <^demon> Ulfr: Can you pastebin the full response? Need a bit more to go on. [16:33:31] yaron: When I define a table and just append strings, something puts line breaks and tags in [16:34:02] ^demon: http://pastebin.com/N5CZ3ZVK [16:34:03] Oh, I see. [16:34:35] Only way I figured out how to bypass that problem was to avoid concatenating anything and just hard code it on one line [16:36:34] Do you have any experience with what I'm describing? because I would love to not have to do that given how wishy washy my design team is [16:36:53] * Ulfr wishes people would respect his no-take-backsies clause [16:38:50] hi all. I need help with a gerrit error. I got this when doing git review: [16:38:53] ! [remote rejected] HEAD -> refs/publish/master/UI-tweaks (missing Change-Id in commit message) [16:38:56] error: failed to push some refs to 'ssh://waldir@gerrit.wikimedia.org:29418/mediawiki/extensions/Configure.git' [16:39:00] Ulfr: are you asking me? If so - why not just create the HTML with PHP? (Not that I really know what you're trying to do.) [16:39:30] <^demon> Ulfr: I see nothing in error logs. Unfortunately, the 502 is the generic "Apache can't find gerrit" error. Could've possibly tried cloning during a puppet run or something when gerrit was restarting. Try cloning again? [16:39:40] yaron: The whole extension is being done with jQuery, using php to generate the forms wouldn't be pretty [16:39:49] I'll figure it out though, and trying now ^demon [16:39:50] <^demon> Waldir: The error means what it says. Your commit message needs to have a change-id in it. [16:40:07] ^demon: http://i.imgur.com/Sv6q1.jpg [16:40:16] Thanks [16:40:21] ^demon: wasn't that supposed to be automatic with git-review? [16:40:29] 03(mod) Exception thrown on donate.wikimedia.org due to non-existing "monthly-link" element ID - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40152 (10Valerie Juarez) [16:41:11] <^demon> It should be. If it's not, you just need to copy the commit-msg hook to .git/hooks/commit-msg, and then `git commit -a --amend` and re-save your commit message so the change-id will be applied. [16:41:50] qgil: I think there is a misunderstanding about what usergroups are. [16:41:59] and what they do [16:42:19] YuviPanda, I also think some people has too much time and too much stop energy [16:42:29] YuviPanda, I'll reply later today. Now it's OPW time [16:43:25] qgil: ah, today it kicks off [16:43:41] qgil: Good luck, and thanks for doing it :) [16:44:08] (OPW) [16:44:23] ^demon: ah, thanks. I committed before doing git review -s (new machine, had to set things up again from scratch) [16:45:36] <^demon> :) I have a on-liner in my .bashrc file that curl's the commit-msg hook from the gerrit server and chmod's it for me. So if I'm ever on a repo I've forgotten the hook on, I just do 'commit-msg' [16:46:12] <^demon> Which is basically what git review -s does, but works even on repos without .gitreview files :) [16:47:54] ^demon: is that something us casual devs should look into? I mean, what gerrit repos don't have .gitreview files? [16:48:13] <^demon> Repos we've just created and somebody forgot to add the files. [16:48:22] * sumanah comes back, reads backscroll [16:48:25] ^demon: I was wondering how to guess the indended remote branch (master, REL1_19,...) to get rid of .gitreview files altogether... any ideas? [16:48:26] 03(mod) Multiple / unclear landing pages for QA & testing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42540 (10Chris McMahon) [16:48:27] Waldir: just a moment.... [16:48:41] s,indended,intended, [16:48:48] <^demon> saper: I don't use git-review anymore. No real opinion :\ [16:48:48] sumanah: don't worry, ^demon already helped me figure out the problem :) [16:49:19] ^demon: me either, but I still hope to fix it. My first round of patches got accepted upstream after ~3 months or so :) [16:49:23] so there is hope [16:49:26] oh ok! I think there's info about that in [[Git/Tutorial]] [16:49:45] <^demon> saper: .git/config's merge.$curBranch is probably what you want. [16:50:20] is it local or remote? [16:50:23] <^demon> Local. [16:50:24] ^demon: you have imported RDFIO extension into Git. But https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:RDFIO says the extension is maintained on GitHub. I wonder if I should add the extension to Translatewiki [16:50:32] yaron: Still no luck with Add Multiple [16:50:34] ^demon: I guess if I get an error because of a missing .gitreview the report can help those who forgot to add it :) (unless they're meant to be deprecated, as saper seems to suggest) [16:50:51] <^demon> Raymond_: It was moved from Github. Ask the maintainer, but I'm pretty sure he's moving into Gerrit ecosystem now. [16:50:55] Waldir: it's my hope, nowhere near completion unfortunately. [16:51:18] Ulfr: what version of SF are you on now? [16:51:36] ^demon: thanks [16:51:38] Waldir: you can still re-do your commit and get a Commit-ID to fix the problem now [16:51:53] <^demon> saper: Here's the .git/config from my local clone of ExtensionDistributor: http://p.defau.lt/?DmOKForyHWqFwz1JjR1blg [16:51:56] sumanah: I'm kinda afraid of that page, it's huge :P I mostly refer to the TLDR page and the links from there (which was the case; I just followed the "install git-review" link when I saw it wasn't present in this machine) [16:52:07] saper: yeah, I'm gonna do it now :) [16:52:08] yaron: 2,5,2 alpha [16:52:14] Waldir: understood, but it is worth looking at the Troubleshooting section. [16:52:14] err s/./, [16:52:26] Alright. And you are you still using the custom "show on select" code? [16:52:37] Waldir: worst case you can "git reset --soft HEAD^", "git commit" again (maybe with -c) [16:53:02] hey there Lydia_WMDE [16:53:02] New patchset: Waldir; "Various UI tweaks to the TOC in Special:Configure" [mediawiki/extensions/Configure] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42096 [16:53:10] yay :D [16:53:11] yaron: Yup, but it's just a small piece of javascript that goes on a .ready and .change event [16:53:12] hey sumanah [16:53:18] Waldir: ta-daa [16:53:32] saper: I did what ^demon suggested before, commit --amend [16:53:32] Ulfr: but didn't you say that that was causing the problem before? [16:53:33] Lydia_WMDE: happy new year! and congrats on the KDE achievements I see on identi.ca [16:53:55] yaron: Huh? No. I had to create that because show on select wasn't functioning properly [16:53:57] sumanah: I'll keep that in mind :) [16:53:57] <^demon> saper: --amend -a also re-runs commit-msg hook. [16:54:20] ^demon: never remember whether yes or no so I go the hard way :) [16:54:30] sumanah: happy new year to you too! and thanks :) I'm really happy about those - more coming in now every day [16:54:40] seems people had some free time over christmas and so on [16:54:42] ;-) [16:54:46] Ulfr: you said, "Initially add multiple did work... Then I created my own show on select script and I can no longer add multiple". [16:55:19] yaron: Okay, I did say that :P But removing the widget didn't fix the problem [16:56:11] So now you're strictly using the latest SF code, and MW 1.19, with no modifications on your part, and it doesn't work in Chrome? [16:56:15] can someone review this change? it's just a couple of minor CSS + JS tweaks --> https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42096 [16:56:26] How about other browsers? And how about in the Vector skin? [16:58:02] Waldir: I think ialex is listed as the project owner [16:58:37] saper: so he's the only one who can merge it? [16:59:16] yaron: I'm afraid. It's worked once in chome now but not in firefox and never in vector [16:59:46] Waldir: no, also a whole bunch of folk here https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/admin/groups/11,members [16:59:48] Ulfr: sorry - it doesn't work in any browser, or any skin, now? [17:00:01] And just to clarify - there's no custom code of yours running there? [17:00:14] Waldir: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/admin/groups/139,members but maybe if you want to work on it you should be added here? no idea [17:00:40] * sumanah needs to look at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Gerrit_project_ownership [17:00:46] saper: I am not planning to work on it in the long term [17:00:53] yaron: I can remove my widget again but I doubt it'll affect anything. And it's working in monobook on chrome after a hard refresh but never on FF [17:00:57] I'm just sending in some suggestions for improvement as I use it :) [17:00:57] let me have someone else try it [17:01:13] Waldir: J.K.Galbraith said, "In the long term we all will be dead." [17:01:16] ha [17:01:31] I might find other places to contribute to the extension, but then again I might not :) [17:01:40] lol [17:01:55] not enough people quoting Galbraith these days - props to saper [17:02:02] Waldir: I stopped looking at my gerrit dashboard recently; looks like lots of my work on pgsql installer/updater got broken in the meantime :) [17:02:13] For what it's worth, it was actually Keynes who said that. [17:02:22] oh! right! [17:02:26] * sumanah is forgetful [17:02:35] How do I edit/change the Create Account page (I just want to make a note that Username should be "First Last" name) [17:02:43] yaron: right, my bad [17:02:47] yaron: I'm just gonna fiddle with it. It's clearly something I've done because it works sometimes now [17:02:53] yaron: Thanks again! [17:02:55] * sumanah goes off to a meeting [17:03:05] saper: was that meant for me? I'm not sure what to say [17:03:19] Okay, good luck! [17:03:38] Waldir: just that review queue sometimes gets large [17:03:42] Thanks, I think I'm going to need it [17:03:55] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "I came here just now to ask that same question. Since we ran into an issue with the serialization so..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42090 [17:05:56] saper: oh, I know that :) I have several simple commits awaiting for a review, the oldest almost 2 months old now : https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/owner:waldir%2540email.com+is:open,n,z [17:06:20] correction: waiting for a +2 [17:06:47] mitevam: ping re meeting [17:07:11] sumanah: yes i know but the invite is to my NYU email (Just noticed) and it doesnt support hangouts [17:07:32] saper: I thought the mediawiki group could merge core code, and only the repo owners of the corresponding extensions could merge into those. am I wrong? [17:07:33] sumanah: just sent an email to qgil to ask him to resend it to my gmail.com account so I can join [17:07:34] ok, mitevam - is there another email we can use that supports Hangouts? [17:07:37] oh ok, thanks [17:07:45] should be there soon [17:07:47] thanks mitevam [17:07:55] At least that's an easy solution. [17:08:09] Waldir: I think this core group can do it too, since permissions are inherited [17:08:11] sorry for that, I should have realized BEFORE the meeting started maybe :) [17:08:24] ok, I didn't know that [17:08:24] hi Waldir [17:08:29] mitevam: Understandable! [17:08:30] hey Nikerabbit :D [17:08:32] there's always a first time [17:08:50] * sumanah disappears from #mediawiki to concentrate on meeting [17:09:08] Waldir: I'll catch you some day [17:09:22] Nikerabbit: haha about what? [17:10:46] trying to create a magic word, basically works, but I'd like it to return some links...seems like any text I return inside [[]] just disappears instead, any ideas what I'm supposed to do there [17:11:14] sucheta, ping [17:11:22] sucheta, we are waiting for you at the OPW meeting [17:12:38] qgil: [17:12:48] hi [17:12:51] could you please send me an invite to mariya.miteva@gmail.com [17:12:56] hi :) [17:13:05] mitevam, i just did? [17:13:14] oh sorry, didn't get it yet [17:15:14] Thehelpfulone: oops, missed that one. Errm, I've committed today https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42089 and https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42094 , if that's what you refer to. If not, I need context :) [17:15:33] qgil: did sucheta make it to the hangout? Want me to give her an offline poke? [17:15:51] andre__, yep that's it, I was referring to the "should I create an RT ticket for that template change for the login: thing" [17:16:51] andre__, would "No reports found" be better than "Zero reports found"? [17:17:12] Thehelpfulone, hmm, I don't have a strong opinion on that. Anything that doesn't have typos is better :) [17:17:32] heh agreed [17:17:52] Anyone know of a multiupload extension that's compatible with 1.16? [17:18:05] can you commit the Login: template one too please? [17:18:28] Guys, if you do a $dbr->fetchObject(..., can you put a 'array( 'ORDER BY' => 'page_id desc' )' for the options? Would that work? The default is asc, right? [17:18:31] Thehelpfulone: not yet there but on the way, about to do that later today (in a meeting right now) [17:18:32] Or is it? [17:18:41] ah sure, thanks [17:19:29] qgil, still nothing, is gmail being that slow? wierd [17:20:18] mitevam, have you tried just logging to google++ and accept the inmvitation there? [17:20:35] mitevam, also check in G+ in the browser [17:24:34] qgil, i am on google+ but don't see an invigation [17:24:35] New patchset: Hoo man; "(bug 43595) Add a cache version variable to SiteArray" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42037 [17:24:43] i hope I am not holding everybody [17:25:31] i sent again an invitation mitevam [17:25:48] mitevam, also perhaps you have the link in the invitation as well? [17:26:13] lets see [17:27:33] mitevam: ping ... are you having trouble joining, still? [17:29:51] is it possible to set the search autosuggestion delay? [17:30:08] sumanah, I think i'm finally in [17:30:12] got it! [17:30:14] I see you [17:30:47] mitevam: I do not hear you [17:42:09] 03(mod) All labels and lang codes displayed as English - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43595 +comment (10denny vrandecic) [17:42:46] 03(NEW) Change SharedTo: on Saved Searches from "editbugs" to "bz_canusewhines" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43610 normal; Wikimedia: Bugzilla; () [17:45:37] valeriej: I'll be talking with you about https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Review_queue and https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Writing_an_extension_for_deployment and https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developers/Maintainers in 15 min if that is good? [17:48:12] sumanah: could you make that ~30min, because I'd love to have a quick followup hangout with valeriej and qgil? :) [17:48:16] sure :-) [17:49:27] aharoni: what's Priyanka's IRC nick? [17:49:37] * sumanah looks on https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Priyanka_Nag [17:50:52] sumanah: supposed to be priyanka_nag [17:51:02] sumanah: sorry for joining so late [17:51:17] mitevam: I know how it is. :-) apology accepted, and I know it'll be better next time [17:51:29] mitevam: have you ever heard of "resource curse"? [17:51:59] if that's the curse of having too many emails i've live with it :) [17:52:30] no! :) "resource curse" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resource_curse [17:53:23] basically, I analogize that my mentorship of you had the initial advantage that since we were both in NYC I could talk with you face-to-face, but then what that meant was that we had a slightly tougher transition to make when you moved [17:53:52] in contrast, when mentees are already remote and far from their mentors, then during the application phase all the remote-communication stuff can get worked out :-) [17:54:04] hi priyanka_nag! I suggest you add your IRC nickname to your userpage at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Priyanka_Nag [17:54:16] Okay sure :) [17:54:41] sumanah: hahaha very true, I hope it will be fine from now on [17:54:44] :) [17:55:05] sumanah: its about time for me to go unless there is anything? [17:55:08] priyanka_nag: also, what page on mediawiki.org or what thread on translatewiki.net would I watch to follow your internship work? [17:55:28] mitevam: I think that's about it for today! Tomorrow I figure you & I can catch up in #mediawiki and discuss your next steps, questions to investigate, etc. [17:55:53] sumanah, sorry....I didn't get you. I think I am missing out on something important. [17:56:04] priyanka_nag: OK. So let me rephrase :) [17:56:35] sumanah: ok, i wil keep working on reading meanwhile then , talk to you tomorrow ! bye and have a good day [17:56:36] priyanka_nag: during your internship, you are doing various tasks and activities. In order to keep updated on your work, where should I look? [17:56:39] bye mitevam! [17:57:14] priyanka_nag: I presume you're going to be documenting what you're doing on mediawiki.org pages, or someplace on translatewiki.net, or something like that? [17:57:34] Yes sumanah. [17:57:47] I will be doing it on mediawiki.org only... [17:57:47] priyanka_nag: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Engineering/Project_documentation_howto has some ideas on how you can keep an activity page on mediawiki.org and use various templates to make it easy to add new status messages, etc. [17:58:37] sumanah: but I haven't got page started as yet... [17:58:49] I will do that soon and share it with you.. [17:58:56] Will that be fine sumanah? [17:59:03] priyanka_nag: cool! maybe aharoni has a better idea? [18:00:08] priyanka_nag, sumanah : I'll think of it. [18:00:12] ok [18:00:23] Sure aharoni [18:01:10] priyanka_nag: just to start, it's a good idea to use a template like https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Mitevam does [18:01:25] priyanka_nag: not obligatory of course [18:01:37] but something explaining in a paragraph what you're doing .... you could just copy and paste it from your OPW application [18:01:52] Okay sure. Thank you sumanah [18:02:04] sure [18:02:25] 03(NEW) radio buttons allow multiple selection in $wgAutopromote section - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43611 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Configure; () [18:02:45] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Jarry1250/GSoC_2012_roadmap was pretty good [18:02:49] 03(mod) Change SharedTo: on Saved Searches from "editbugs" to "bz_canusewhines" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43610 +comment (10Thehelpfulone) [18:03:32] 03(mod) Allow enabling of "clean URLs" directly from interface - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/19331 (10Waldir) [18:05:11] 03(mod) Activate Collection Extension for generating PDF on the Bashkir Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40879 +comment (10Dereckson) [18:05:44] New patchset: Amire80; "WIP: display description." [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42099 [18:06:52] 03(mod) Turkish Wikisource: "VikiKaynak" could be "Vikikaynak" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42721 +comment (10Dereckson) [18:07:10] *** How do I edit/change the Create Account page (I just want to make a note that Username should be "First Last" name) [18:08:13] Aric_: add "?uselang=qqx" to the URL, to see the name of the message that you want to modify. [18:08:34] Then go to the page "Mediawiki:", and change the text there. [18:09:12] valeriej: Hey, did you come up with a place to test Drafts? [18:10:24] yaron thanks [18:15:41] yaron: is it possible to remove the real name input field from the form or hide it? [18:16:25] There might be some setting for that - I don't know. [18:19:35] Hello [18:19:39] 03(mod) Change SharedTo: on Saved Searches from "editbugs" to "bz_canusewhines" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43610 +comment (10Thehelpfulone) [18:21:14] Aric_: see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgHiddenPrefs [18:21:15] sumanah: you there? [18:21:29] priyanka_nag, no name with that nick, so not online... [18:22:06] priyanka_nag: (most IRC applications allow you to type the first letters of a nickname, and then if you press the "tab" key it autocompletes - can come in handy sometimes) [18:22:06] Yes...I think she has left. Thank you andre [18:22:14] thanks [18:22:38] plus "/whois sumanah" doesn't show any results either, so she's really offline and not only "not in this channel". [18:22:47] andre__: thanks...it works pretty great :) [18:27:45] New patchset: Reedy; "Add GeoData sql file to addWiki.php" [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaMaintenance] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42102 [18:28:07] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaMaintenance] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42102 [18:28:48] 03(mod) #lsth: Cannot transclude a section by heading more than once - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38077 (10Waldir) [18:29:13] Ridou: Hi! What's up? [18:29:50] New review: Aaron Schulz; "Probably only affects the case where the image is missing" [mediawiki/extensions/ConfirmEdit] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42067 [18:29:58] New patchset: Reedy; "Update WikimediaMaintenance to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf6) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42103 [18:30:11] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf6) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42103 [18:30:22] 03(mod) syntax to transclude a page without the containing page inheriting categories, interlanguage links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/835 (10Waldir) [18:30:40] New patchset: Reedy; "Update WikimediaMaintenance to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf7) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42104 [18:31:36] 03(mod) #lsth: broken edit link for subsections - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43088 (10Waldir) [18:33:26] New patchset: Aklapper; "(bug 24992) Show "email" instead of "login" as field label in Bugzilla" [wikimedia/bugzilla/modifications] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42105 [18:33:48] New review: Cmcmahon; "looks OK to me, but would like Michelle to ack this" [qa/browsertests] (master); V: 1 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42087 [18:34:03] 03(mod) Show "email" instead of "login" as field label - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24992 +patch-in-gerrit; +comment (10Andre Klapper) [18:34:05] New review: Cmcmahon; "looks OK to me, but would like Michelle to ack this" [qa/browsertests] (master); V: 1 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42087 [18:35:05] Thehelpfulone: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/42105/ is about changing "login" to "email address" in the Bugzilla UI [18:35:28] 03(NEW) Enable Labeled Section Transclusion's lsth on mediawiki.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43612 normal; Wikimedia: Extension setup; () [18:37:36] Is the new pages feed deployable elsewhere? Can it be used on any random project with configuration yet? [18:38:02] I am in SF right now, can I visit the MediaWiki HQ? [18:38:24] Isarra: I don't know the answer, but I know that Ironholds can provide you with an answer [18:39:41] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/40803 [18:40:13] Ridou: poke sumanah or qgil maybe? [18:41:12] PurgatoryPanda: Do you know how wikipedians initially responded to the idea of the thing? [18:41:45] Isarra: ... no? [18:41:50] Dang. [18:42:05] Isarra: again, Ironholds would [18:42:18] Aye, but if I knew ahead of time, perhaps I could tease him about it! [18:42:34] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "have you tested this?.." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42037 [18:42:50] 03(mod) Validator 0.5.x and MediaWiki 1.19.3: "Warning: file() [function.file]: Filename cannot be empty" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43607 summary (10Andre Klapper) [18:42:59] Isarra: ah [18:43:00] Change abandoned: Anonymous Coward; "Going to recreate these over in Mobile Frontend Tests" [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42036 [18:44:26] Isarra: my initial guess would be 'this is a project started by the evil people at the foundation, so now go away', but then again, I might just be pissed off at some random unrelated mailing list [18:44:53] Well, that is a fairly standard reaction. [18:45:31] 03(mod) Change SharedTo: on Saved Searches from "editbugs" to "bz_canusewhines" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43610 +comment (10Daniel Kinzler) [18:46:06] Isarra: indeed. Even if the person doing the criticizing hasn't read the proposal in question and freely admits to. [18:46:14] hmm, must not IRC when pissed. [18:46:19] brb [18:46:54] hello [18:48:36] Ridou: talk to somebody in the office you'd like to meet. In the old times Cary Bass did run a table to register all visits [18:48:50] 03(mod) enable PageTriage in test environments - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43203 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [18:49:06] Who runs the table to register all the visits now? [18:49:25] I PM'd qgil, but I have yet to receive a reply [18:49:42] Thank you for the information though [18:49:47] Isarra, Isarra if there was it's probably listed or linked from www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Page_Curation [18:49:48] Ridou: it's just a log of people who came by and said hello [18:49:52] 03(mod) Create Wikivoyage Spanish - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42933 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [18:49:53] Isarra: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Page_Curation might have some useful information for you if you haven't seen it [18:49:55] Ridou: not the official thing :) [18:50:14] Ridou: visit to what? office? [18:50:20] eh, andre__ beat me to it [18:50:41] Wikimedia Foundation Inc. 149 New Montgomery Street San Francisco, CA 94105 [18:51:41] Change merged: Bsitu; [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41042 [18:51:41] Change merged: Bsitu; [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39512 [18:51:42] Yesh! [18:51:46] Ridou: when going there, be sure to check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PacBell_Building [18:51:58] * Isarra hugs andre__ and chrismcmahon. [18:52:16] Isarra: see? The adults are always more useful :) [18:52:39] I am NOT adult! ;) [18:53:29] That looks like a great building. I will check that out also [18:53:30] andre__: also, I'm batman :P [18:53:42] You are batman!!! [18:53:51] cool story bro, i'm Robin! Let's fight crime together! [18:54:01] Lol j/k [18:54:07] I'm batman, you're robin and andre__ is not an adult :P [18:54:20] deal. [18:54:29] 03(mod) open_basedir restriction prevents uploading of images - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/1665 (10Valerie Juarez) [18:54:34] I'll make sure to go with my batman t-shirt today [18:54:40] lol [18:54:53] Isarra: these E2 projects (AFT, Page Curation) tend to be documented out the wazoo on mw.o [18:55:02] 03(mod) Debug and reenable Swift-based CAPTCHA - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43493 (10Andre Klapper) [18:55:16] 03(mod) Create Wikivoyage Portuguese - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42934 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [18:55:41] 03(mod) Remove ability-to-remove-bureaucrat from en.wiktionary bureaucrats - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42113 (10Spinningspark) [18:55:43] PurgatoryPanda, have you seen the Batman/Robin gag from Movie 43? [18:55:44] What's an adult? [18:57:02] MaxSem: Movie 43 reminds me of Rule 34, and I haven't seen either [18:57:37] http://musechase.com/movie-43trailer/ [18:57:44] MaxSem: and i'm afraid to google [18:57:49] sucheta, thee are two pages about your workshop in Kolkata: which one is the right one? [18:57:50] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Events/MediaWiki_Code_Sprint_-_Kolkata [18:57:53] 03(NEW) Manage puppet groups interface is broken for sysadmins - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43613 normal; MediaWiki extensions: OpenStackManager; () [18:57:55] you should see it, what can I say? [18:57:59] i just googled it! ROFL! Can't wait to see this movie! "911, my friend is bleeding out of her vagina!" [18:58:03] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Events/MediaWiki_Workshop_-_Kolkata [18:58:21] Ridou, pong [18:59:27] Ridou: Language, please... [18:59:31] Change merged: Reedy; [wikimedia/bugzilla/triagescripts] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37377 [19:00:06] 03(mod) prevent update.php from updating database schemata of wgSharedTables - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43116 +comment (10Alexandre Emsenhuber [IAlex]) [19:00:06] Change merged: Reedy; [wikimedia/bugzilla/wikibugs] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37373 [19:00:18] qgil: Its the code sprint one, actually. I was a little confused with the name. As, we can't probably call it a hackathon.. Since its short (less than 4 hours). So I redirected the page to Code Sprint. But this one was created by some mistake. Sorry :( [19:00:34] Although they both have the same content. [19:00:37] Dereckson: Are you about? [19:00:45] sucheta: remind them to join mediawiki-india ok? [19:00:50] sucheta, then can you please edit the wrong one setting also a redirect? [19:01:09] qgil: sure. :) [19:01:54] sucheta, I'm about tpo announce the event through our https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Social_media [19:01:54] Yes Reedy. [19:02:05] New review: Matmarex; "Two weeks since my last post, bumping again. Somebody please tell me what's wrong with this change o..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23100 [19:02:10] Dereckson: Any chance you could please rebase 38801? [19:02:11] ^ yay, almost four months pending. [19:02:18] PurgatoryPanda: Seriously? PurgatoryPanda? You calling yourself that? :/ [19:02:28] Okay. [19:02:29] qgil: Yay! Thanks :) [19:02:41] New patchset: Reedy; "Update WikimediaMaintenance to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf7) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42104 [19:02:48] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf7) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42104 [19:03:07] I thought PurgatoryPanda was Batman and is just wearing that name as a disguise. You know just like Bruce Wayne does [19:03:11] sucheta: in-joke on #wikimedia-Mobile [19:03:40] MatmaRex: ISn't it great being a volunteer? [19:03:48] quite lovely [19:04:00] i've even got another one from september [19:04:17] New patchset: Bsitu; "(bug 43432) Dock links bar at bottom of Echo flyout" [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41187 [19:04:33] qgil: Should I tell them about MW Group Kolkata? [19:04:38] New review: Matmarex; "Daniel, Timo: could you both take a look again and give me +/- 1/2?" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23674 [19:04:40] that one^ . [19:04:48] And I just want ownership of some unmaintained extensions nobody cares about... [19:04:59] sucheta, "them"? [19:05:22] qgil: why doesn't WMF pay someone to manage patches submitted by volunteers? :/ [19:05:24] Change merged: Bsitu; [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41187 [19:05:31] 03(NEW) l10n generation in git-deploy - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43614 normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; () [19:05:34] 03(mod) Dev tasks related to git-deploy migration - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43338 (10Rob Lanphier) [19:05:45] MatmaRex, qgil > that wouldn't work: every patch concern different things... [19:06:21] well, i don't know, one bug wrangler can manage everything, and that person wouldn't necessarily have to be an expert in all things PHP, JS, HTML & CSS [19:06:24] qgil: The attendees. :) [19:06:58] and having basic knowledge of all them is not something particularly rare, i'd say [19:07:04] sucheta, if you do your homework first then yes of course: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Groups/Proposals :) [19:07:11] MatmaRex: what would be the exact role of this person? [19:07:15] i don't even mean someone to review them, of course (or not primarily) [19:07:33] MatmaRex, the WMF is paying a big Engineering team... [19:07:35] but to get things that need attention to peopl,e who can give it [19:07:44] qgil: who are all doing their engineering jobs [19:07:52] and not reviewing random patches [19:07:54] unfortunately [19:08:06] MatmaRex, the random patch doesn't exist [19:08:13] maybe they should, i dunno, but they seem to already have enough work on their hands [19:08:21] qgil: what do you mean? [19:08:40] 03(mod) open_basedir restriction prevents uploading of images - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/1665 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [19:08:52] MatmaRex, patches relate to projects. Maintained projects should take care of the patches they receive. [19:09:13] qgil: well, i've got five commits in gerrit waiting for review, for mediawiki/core onlky [19:09:15] only* [19:09:18] dont tell me its not maintaine [19:09:19] d [19:09:24] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/dashboard/417 [19:09:38] also one for mediawiki/extensions/Vector, which fixes a regression [19:09:48] Reedy: done [19:09:51] and, simply, as far as i can see nobody cares [19:09:52] * AaronSchulz frowns at https://github.com/nicolasff/phpredis/issues/166 [19:09:54] 03(mod) Design new on-disk layout for MediaWiki install on tin/eqiad Apaches - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43340 summary; +comment (10Rob Lanphier) [19:10:11] qgil: i do agree that mw/core devs should take care of the patches [19:10:12] except they dont [19:10:15] Dereckson: Thanks [19:10:44] MatmaRex, then the solution is not hiring someone to do it, right? [19:10:51] MatmaRex: did you read the Sumanah notes about Level Up program? [19:11:25] qgil: i'm not the one to find solutions :/ it's been this way since i started volunteer developing for MW at least [19:11:32] (that would be september) [19:11:37] MatmaRex, the more you can focus that problem to specific products / components / maintainers then easiest is to find a solution [19:11:43] Dereckson: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mentorship_programs/LevelUp ? i read that page [19:12:01] Dereckson: and heard nothing ever since it was created [19:12:14] qgil: we have three JS devs. all of them are busy. [19:12:37] qgil: (that would be Timo, Trevor and Roan, as far as i know) [19:12:46] Matthias play with lot of JS too [19:13:01] MatmaRex, you are doing enough volunteering! I'm just trying to help you defining the problem, because I don't think the problem is lack of developers - we should hire more. [19:13:51] qgil: the problem is, i have five changes waiting for review, i have 20 more changes of other people i reviewed which are waiting for review from someone with +2 as well on my dashboard [19:14:00] qgil: and every day, there are more, not less [19:14:19] qgil: the problem has been analyzed in October as lack of intimate knowledge of the great variety of our products by the community (staff and volunteers) working on Wikimedia products [19:14:34] 03(NEW) Audit salt scripts for completeness (checking against scap/sync-file/sync-dir) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43615 normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; () [19:14:35] 03(mod) Dev tasks related to git-deploy migration - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43338 (10Rob Lanphier) [19:14:46] qgil: the problems is really the same for every part of mw/core at least, maybe except for i18n/l10n [19:14:55] as siebrand and nike are managing this quite well in my opinion [19:14:57] with a solution: motivate people to know another field than the current one they know well [19:15:27] it's the same with rotting bugzilla bugs, of course, but i guess that is lower priority [19:15:28] 03(mod) Design new on-disk layout for MediaWiki install on tin/eqiad Apaches - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43340 (10Rob Lanphier) [19:15:29] 03(mod) Make EQIAD new primary data-center (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39106 (10Rob Lanphier) [19:15:30] 03(mod) Dev tasks related to git-deploy migration - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43338 (10Rob Lanphier) [19:16:08] MatmaRex, last time we had this discussion I suggested to raise the issue to wikitech-l. I don't remember what happened next, though. [19:18:58] Change abandoned: MaxSem; "(no reason)" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12895 [19:19:31] qgil: i'm not sure if i posted anything, if i did, it was probably ignored like all troublesome posts are [19:20:01] and IMO there's no point in posting anyway, what's it going to cause? [19:20:08] well, nevermind, i'll go do something useful for now [19:20:16] 03(mod) Create Wikisource Assamese - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43129 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [19:23:29] Change abandoned: Jdlrobson; "See last comment" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39570 [19:24:30] 03(mod) Manage puppet groups interface is broken for sysadmins - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43613 (10silke.meyer) [19:25:22] sucheta, you could add a link to the Mozilla event your workshop is part of [19:25:47] 03(mod) Link for Echo flyout title - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43431 +comment (10Ryan Kaldari) [19:26:12] Reedy: now you can submit again https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/38063/ [19:26:34] MatmaRex, if you are not sured you posted anything... [19:26:58] 03(mod) Enable Labeled Section Transclusion's lsth on mediawiki.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43612 normal->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [19:27:07] sucheta, I tried to find a link to add it myself but I can't find anything since you are not mentioning the name of the event [19:27:13] qgil: i looked and i think i didn't, actually, sorry [19:27:46] qgil: Yes, I did at first. But somehow they had used .co.nr domain for their official website. And it hits the anti-spam filter everywhere [19:27:57] MatmaRex, so my advice keeps being the same: make your point at wikitech-l. From thee it will be easier for people like to raise that point [19:28:49] 03(mod) Deploy git-deploy to the Beta Cluster - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43339 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [19:29:23] nr, amazing. Well, if not as link then at least the URL as text? [19:29:32] New review: Mattflaschen; "Looks good, except for the shebang change." [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42033 [19:29:35] sucheta, ^^^^ [19:30:02] sucheta, what is the name of the event? [19:30:21] (also, are you twitter, fb, etc? [19:30:53] New patchset: Bsitu; "Add new hook LinksUpdateAfterInsert to LinksUpdate" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf6) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42116 [19:31:28] qgil: MozTI@BESU. Wait I guess I can find a way. And checking if they have changed the domain. I have reminded them to do so. [19:32:13] sucheta, https://reps.mozilla.org/e/mozilla-campus-konnect/ looks good [19:32:24] 03(mod) Deploy git-deploy to the Beta Cluster - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43339 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [19:32:32] qgil: no offense intended to you, but i really have better things to do than write long-winded mails to wikitech which are going to get ignored anyway. i've already reiterated my point to multiple people on multiple occasions and nothing happened. [19:32:40] and now i really have to go and get to work. see you. [19:33:22] MatmaRex, ok...... :( [19:33:54] New patchset: Reedy; "Fixup minor style issues" [mediawiki/extensions/LabeledSectionTransclusion] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42117 [19:34:14] sucheta, http://mozti.becs.ac.in/ also good, they even have Comic Sans :) [19:36:28] New review: Jarry1250; "I'm still not clear on what the unfixable bugs with this kind of approach, MatmaRex. You mentioned s..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41365 [19:37:23] New patchset: Bsitu; "Update Echo to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf6) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42118 [19:37:55] 03(mod) Adding custom inter-namespace tabs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/13228 +comment (10Pavel Selitskas) [19:39:02] hashar: I think chrismcmahon was looking for you? [19:39:15] sumanah: probably; not there tonight though. [19:39:23] hi hashar, welcome back [19:39:28] sumanah: still have to reply to the few emails you sent me last week :-] [19:39:32] chrismcmahon: hi :-] [19:39:43] 03(mod) Activate Collection Extension for generating PDF on the Bashkir Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40879 +comment (10haqmar) [19:39:51] chrismcmahon: heading to a local hacker group meeting tonight. Anything urgent? [19:40:12] hashar: nothing urgent [19:40:21] hashar: sometime this week it would be good to ensure that the https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Continuous_integration status is updates [19:40:24] updated* [19:40:26] qgil: Yes they have changed it finally, it seems. Added it to the page. :) [19:40:30] if there's anything new there since Dec 19 [19:41:01] sumanah: been in vacations ? :-] [19:41:07] sucheta, hum I also added to the page. :) Anyway, check the MediaWiki social channels. I just published. [19:41:11] hashar: ok (: [19:41:18] sumanah: will poke an update next monday so you get materials for the eng report [19:41:28] thank you hashar [19:42:22] sucheta, you added it to the code sprint page, I added it to the workshop page, the one yo said was the good one... :) [19:42:30] sumanah: I also want to update the CI roadmap :) [19:42:36] New review: Ori.livneh; "When using distribute / setuptools 'script' directive in setup.py, the script that gets executed whe..." [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42033 [19:42:43] hashar: cool [19:42:48] sumanah: anyway, I have added myself a reminder :-° [19:42:55] nice! (: [19:43:15] chrismcmahon: feel free to mail me so I can process your request asynchronously :-] I am out tonight again. *waves* [19:43:32] sucheta, ... and redirect set [19:43:37] New patchset: Bsitu; "Add new hook LinksUpdateAfterInsert to LinksUpdate" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf7) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42119 [19:44:06] qgil: But its not really very good. If you go to the event section, and try clicking on the MediaWiki section, they show the coding contest registration ( Which they call a hackathon :P ) [19:44:42] sucheta, I have been linking to our wiki page at social media [19:44:58] +1 to wiki page :) [19:45:08] sucheta, you need to discuss the rest with the event organizers, then [19:45:37] sucheta, I just wanted to have the link in the wiki page so people landing there can know more about the whole event [19:47:35] Change merged: IAlex; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/40086 [19:47:45] New patchset: Reedy; "(bug 35993) API gettoken parameter is deprecated (release notes complement)" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/40566 [19:48:05] 03(NEW) Provide a way to create iteractive timelines - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43616 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Extensions requests; () [19:48:28] 03(mod) iOS app needs privacy and terms of use links in the footer - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42968 +comment (10Brion Vibber) [19:49:14] New patchset: Bsitu; "Update Echo to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf7) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42120 [19:49:40] New review: Matmarex; "I haven't tested due to lack of time, but here are things that I remember have failed with various a..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41365 [19:50:00] giftpflanze: I'm fixing my TCL scripts according your comments. [19:50:04] 00:56 < giftpflanze> the usage in the beginning comments is different to [usage] and the script logic [19:50:42] I see create-renameExtensionIndex-patches.tcl prefix draft.sql used everywhere as order [19:51:08] the order is fine afair [19:51:12] 03(mod) Enable E3 on it.wikivoyage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43605 normal->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [19:51:17] Oh, <> [] yes! [19:51:25] right [19:51:37] ori-l-away: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43605 [19:52:15] 03(mod) Setup a production test wiki for Wikibase repo - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43596 normal->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [19:52:16] 03(mod) l10n generation in git-deploy - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43614 normal->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [19:52:18] 03(mod) [selenium] more tests for statements UI - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43606 normal->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [19:52:46] New review: Hoo man; "Sadly I'm not at home atm so that I don't have my usual development environment around... so I could..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42037 [19:54:01] New patchset: Dereckson; "Code generator for SQL indexes rename patches." [mediawiki/tools/code-utils] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/40295 [19:55:02] giftpflanze: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/40295/2..3/create-renameExtensionIndex-patches.tcl [19:56:21] 03(mod) Make it possible to rename users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40061 +comment (10Juliusz Gonera) [19:58:31] New patchset: Hoo man; "(bug 43595) Add a cache version variable to SiteArray" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42037 [19:58:47] 03(mod) Change SharedTo: on Saved Searches from "editbugs" to "bz_canusewhines" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43610 +comment (10Chad H.) [20:00:00] Dereckson: looks good, i guess [20:00:03] New review: Hoo man; "Fixed it now according the Daniel's comments. Sadly I'm still not able to test it." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42037 [20:00:47] 03(mod) Make it possible to rename users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40061 +comment (10Chad H.) [20:01:30] do i have to say anything in the cover message? [20:02:27] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41838 [20:03:03] New review: Mattflaschen; "I'm not sure what that easy_install bug has to do with this scenario, when there's no backslash or q..." [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42033 [20:03:28] giftpflanze: you click on the review button, choose +1, and validate. Comment is optionnal in this case. [20:03:34] ah [20:03:59] The other day, if we weren't on IRC, you would have chosen -1, and put the comment in the messages (or inline in the code, Gerrit allows that too) [20:04:36] 03(NEW) Flaggedrevs - plwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43617 normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; () [20:05:30] ialex: can you look at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/38742/2 ? [20:09:00] i think i may have created an infinite job loop by allowing semantic mediawiki to grok the property namespace? http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=aUSKxKgM [20:09:22] i'm not sure how this happened. i'm also not sure why the jobs are running so very very slow. my cpu is nearly always idle [20:09:53] hahahha ok it actually finished.. so not an infinite loop. but i would appreciate any tips on speeding this up, or figuring out what's so slow [20:10:03] 03(mod) Make it possible to rename users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40061 +comment (10Juliusz Gonera) [20:10:09] New patchset: Kaldari; "Determine number of notifications to display based on height of the window" [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42122 [20:10:15] yay, my first review :) [20:10:59] What extension gives mediawiki the #arraymap functionality? [20:11:17] semantic forms [20:12:05] Balls. Now I have to bother yaron again ;; [20:12:46] 03(mod) Enable FlaggedRevs on plwiki for 3 more namespaces - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43617 normal->15enhancement; +shell; summary (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [20:14:04] Thank you for your review work giftpflanze, TCL people are rareful here :) [20:14:06] New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Add supervisor configs" [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41934 [20:14:41] New review: Ori.livneh; "Ok, I don't have strong feelings about this either way." [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42033 [20:14:47] I was pretty good in TCL but that was so long ago [20:15:40] you're welcome, Dereckson :) [20:15:57] 03(mod) Firefox OS app needs privacy and terms of use links in the footer - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42971 +comment (10Brion Vibber) [20:17:35] 03(mod) Special:GlobalUsers doesn't normalize group names with spaces, requires underscore in URL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38883 +comment (10Chris Steipp) [20:18:08] cortexman: you might want to try the Semantic MediaWiki IRC channel if you have not already [20:18:14] New review: CSteipp; "As I commented on the bug, this breaks a wiki where global groups have spaces in the names." [mediawiki/extensions/CentralAuth] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41911 [20:18:20] yaron: If you're there I'd greatly appreciate some assistance, #arraymap has stopped working since i upgraded the extension to the latest build [20:18:50] New patchset: Bsitu; "Add a new hook LinksUpdateAfterInsert to LinksUpdate" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf7) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42119 [20:18:51] What's the call you're making to it? [20:20:08] 03(mod) Error: ORA-00904: "ARRAY": invalid identifier with ORACLE (DatabaseOracle::doQuery) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43533 summary (10Jesús Martínez Novo (Ciencia Al Poder)) [20:20:49] 03(NEW) Can't use Special:RenameUser - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43618 normal; MediaWiki extensions: LdapAuthentication; () [20:21:00] 03(mod) Design new on-disk layout for MediaWiki install on tin/eqiad Apaches - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43340 major->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [20:21:20] AaronSchulz: http://dev.wikidev.net/info/algotheory/Hundreds%20of%20Impossibility%20Results%20for%20Distributed%20Computing%20-%20Fich%20Ruppert%202003.pdf [20:21:43] {{#arraymap:{{{MainCategory}}}|,|x|[[MainCategory::x]]}} [20:21:58] ^demon: around? [20:22:02] there are no x's in my property names, and the value itself calls fine from the template [20:22:08] <^demon> p858snake|l: sup? [20:22:12] Yes, that should work. [20:24:52] ^demon: can you remove almost everyone from the bz_sudoers group and take it away from being default admin group? (http://www.bugzilla.org/docs/4.4/en/html/useradmin.html#impersonatingusers) its disgusting it was used in such a way for something so small and trivial as well [20:24:54] yaron: http://www.wikidoc.org/index.php/WBR48 is the result [20:24:56] what I break ;; [20:25:23] andre__: ^ re what p858snake|l just said [20:26:11] <^demon> p858snake|l: I'd like to severely limit the number of sudoers, yes. It's an evil feature in bz. [20:26:35] Ulfr: it's strange that the same field is being set a bunch of times in the template call, but I don't know if that's what's causing the issue... [20:27:22] yaron: It's repeated on elements I've cleaned manually, I suspect that the duplicated fields is because of my tinkering [20:27:46] p858snake|l, what do you mean by "take it away from being default admin group"? [20:29:20] its a default group for admins [20:29:21] "To use the sudo feature, you must be in the bz_sudoers group. By default, all administrators are in this group." [20:29:23] Change abandoned: Bsitu; "Too dangerous to submit this" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf7) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42119 [20:29:29] Ulfr: well, for lack a better guess, I'm guessing that that's the issue. [20:29:42] yaron: Gotcha. [20:29:46] p858snake|l, and the request is.....? [20:31:49] New patchset: IAlex; "[JobQueue] Made showJobs.php work for non-DB queues." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/38742 [20:32:21] p858snake|l, ^demon: ah, got you. I've removed this now and wonder who to manually readd as sudoers. [20:32:57] probably nobody to introduce "one more step required to sudo" - any admin can readd her/himself again to the sudoers group anyway. [20:33:23] done. [20:34:06] <^demon> Sounds like a plan. Makes people think twice :) [20:35:20] Change merged: IAlex; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/38742 [20:35:28] 03(NEW) Remove Bugzilla admins from bz_sudoers group - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43619 normal; Wikimedia: Bugzilla; () [20:35:44] 03(mod) Remove Bugzilla admins from bz_sudoers group - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43619 (10Andre Klapper) [20:37:38] 03(mod) Improve CAPTCHA readability - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43546 +comment (10Steven Walling) [20:39:00] Change merged: CSteipp; [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39781 [20:42:19] Ridou, ping? [20:42:27] New patchset: Bsitu; "Add new hook LinksUpdateAfterInsert to LinksUpdate" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf7) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42125 [20:43:03] New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Standardize headers and arg parsing" [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42033 [20:43:36] Reedy: i saw! thanks [20:43:44] poor bastards [20:44:28] New review: Daniel Friesen; "I really, really do not like the look of this code." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37569 [20:47:42] 03(mod) Special:GlobalUsers doesn't normalize group names with spaces, requires underscore in URL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38883 +comment (10Nemo) [20:47:48] New patchset: Bsitu; "Add a new hook LinksUpdateAfterInsert to LinksUpdate" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf7) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42125 [20:48:03] Change merged: Bsitu; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf7) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42125 [20:48:22] Reedy: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/40566/3/HISTORY -> with or without the delay part: "support will be removed in 1.22" [20:48:47] Dereckson: With the note that it will be removed in 1.22 [20:52:49] 03(NEW) Semantic Maps Query via Ask API causes exception - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43620 major; MediaWiki extensions: SemanticMaps; () [20:52:51] Ok. [20:53:45] New patchset: Bsitu; "Update Echo to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf7) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42126 [20:54:09] New review: Jarry1250; "> box autosizing failing" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41365 [20:54:11] Change merged: Bsitu; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf7) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42126 [20:56:41] any feedback on https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/42070/ -- smart continue for api querying [20:57:16] New patchset: Dereckson; "(bug 35993) API gettoken parameter is deprecated (release notes complement)" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/40566 [20:57:37] New review: Mattflaschen; "env python, not env/python. http://goo.gl/4EP9k" [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42033 [21:00:49] Change merged: Ori.livneh; [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41934 [21:01:41] New patchset: JGonera; "Add months and years to Timestamp::getHumanTimestamp()" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42127 [21:02:14] hi terrrydactyl [21:02:46] yurik: did you already check with anomie? :-) [21:03:06] yurik: you might want to check out https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developers/Maintainers and https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Code_review/Getting_reviews [21:03:51] New review: Ori.livneh; "This is why we have code review! Thanks for catching it." [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42033 [21:04:05] New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Standardize headers and arg parsing" [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42033 [21:04:53] Change merged: Tpt; [mediawiki/extensions/LabeledSectionTransclusion] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42117 [21:06:42] having trouble with a css file... the elements do not appear to be generated with type=text/css eg [21:08:07] hypergrove: this is normally not a problem [21:08:33] hi sumanah ! [21:08:43] hypergrove: is your http://../skins/twentyten/twentyten.css?303 served as text/css ? [21:08:55] sumanah: did michael get in touch with you? i talked to him a few weeks ago. [21:09:05] terrrydactyl: I saw on your blog https://terrrydactyl.wordpress.com/2013/01/02/first-day/ that you had a question about Gerrit stuff? [21:09:13] terrrydactyl: I don't think he did :/ [21:09:17] Hi saper ... the is not being created correctly (running mw 1.19) [21:09:37] no it's not, hence the ff error [21:09:38] 03(mod) Languages broken on dynamically loaded pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42962 +comment (10Jon) [21:09:45] hypergrove: is type=text/css mandatory? [21:09:59] Hello. [21:10:03] The stylesheet was not loaded because its MIME type, "text/html", is not "text/css" [21:10:03] hi, Dereckson [21:10:06] sumanah: i committed some changes instead of amending them so it got kind of thrown off. in the end we kind of just hack through it even though it wasn't the best practice. [21:10:19] * sumanah looks up https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/owner:tcho708%2540gmail.com,n,z [21:10:20] hypergrove: that's the problem of your webserver configuration [21:10:25] saper, yes i think so with newer versions of ff [21:10:28] New review: Jarry1250; "Static analysis of the code reveals no issues; although it is probably worth not making additional s..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23100 [21:10:36] sumanah: we solved it yesterday [21:10:41] terrrydactyl: understood. BTW I want you to see https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/Documentation/user-search.html if you have not already. [21:10:43] hypergrove: read HTML docs, not Firefox about screen :) [21:11:44] terrrydactyl: I know a very experienced programmer who had written multiple books about programming.... who, when he first switched to git, accidentally lost 2 days' worth of work [21:11:46] you are not alone [21:11:56] okay, thanks sumanah [21:12:00] saper agreed, but source page does not have type=text/css... the css files are for the skin created by wordpress folks [21:12:09] you're the best at redirecting me to the right articles. :) [21:12:12] :) [21:12:40] created perhaps before resource loader [21:13:31] watched changes are the ones that notify you of every change whereas the starred one are projects that you're following but don't get notified of every change. is that right? [21:13:43] it is as if for those two added files, their is not being created by OutputPage::linkedStyle [21:13:59] hypergrove: no matter if terrrydactyl: I actually don't know! [21:15:09] hypergrove: ^^ Vulpix is right [21:15:20] understood, thou Site5 demands that type=text/css rather than them changing default mime type for php (which is set to text/html) [21:15:22] terrrydactyl: I think starring is for individual changesets and watching is for entire "Gerrit projects" (a.k.a. git repositories) [21:17:18] sumanah: so i'm not used to this git workflow, i'm assuming that you commit code when you add new functionality, and amend code when it's being reviewed and there's some things that need to be fixed and keep amending till that piece is satisfactory. [21:17:20] Thehelpfulone: Bug lists shared [21:17:50] * sumanah asks Dereckson to step in [21:17:59] Dereckson is better than I am at explaining The Git Way Of Life [21:18:27] marktraceur, thanks, and sorry for the heartattack ^demon (I sent an email out to the remaining people) [21:18:59] * Dereckson reads the discussion. [21:19:47] sumanah: i already added myself to maintain api :) [21:20:10] heh [21:20:11] 03(mod) Make it possible to rename users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40061 +comment (10Željko Filipin) [21:22:21] sumanah: did you go to the google hangout today? i had car troubles late last night and didn't manage to wake up for it. :( [21:22:24] 03(mod) Wrong picture linking - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43539 +comment (10Jon) [21:22:31] terrrydactyl: yes, I did go to it. [21:22:37] New review: Wizardist; "True! I'll abandon the patch for now and rewrite it into the extension, because there is one more th..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37569 [21:22:40] terrrydactyl: I'll see you at the next one. [21:22:49] Change abandoned: Wizardist; "(no reason)" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37569 [21:22:54] sumanah: how was it? yeah, i'm kind of bummed that i missed it. [21:23:00] * sumanah has to go for 30 min [21:25:38] Change merged: Ori.livneh; [mediawiki/extensions/GuidedTour] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42046 [21:26:10] Change merged: Ori.livneh; [mediawiki/extensions/GuidedTour] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42045 [21:27:31] Change merged: Ori.livneh; [mediawiki/extensions/GuidedTour/guiders] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41982 [21:30:12] Change merged: Ori.livneh; [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/40345 [21:30:42] Change abandoned: Spage; "Mattflaschen figured out how the GettingStarted extension can not only supply its own onboarding mes..." [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf5) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37590 [21:31:13] i am puzzled why outputpage::linkedStyle specifies type=>text/css but that attribute never shows up on the generated html, and i've looked at other sites and didnt see the attribute there either [21:32:57] maybe it's on a blacklist? [21:34:13] sumanah: this is WAY late but I did forward that email you sent me 9 yrs ago to some LGBT tech groups (I did it awhile ago - just kept forgetting to tell you) [21:37:01] what is the relation of outputpage to something called "mStyles" i see in the code? [21:37:23] Change merged: Ori.livneh; [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42033 [21:37:44] * Style again! This seems like a code duplication since we already have [21:37:44] * mStyles. This is what makes OpenSource amazing. [21:43:46] PHPUnit testing: sucheta is having some trouble setting it up and I suspect someone here may have some experience with PHPUnit troubleshooting [21:44:25] New patchset: Yaron Koren; "New version: 0.7.2" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticInternalObjects] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42134 [21:45:15] She can explain in more detail, maybe. sucheta? [21:46:56] Hey all, I'm using MediaWiki v1.16 and I'm trying to find a multi upload tool. So far I've found two extensions (MsUpload and MultiUpload). The MediaWiki versions they use are newer than the 1.16 I'm running. Do you know of any Multi's that are available for 1.16? Or are there older releases of these do you know? [21:47:02] 03(mod) Interwiki redirects shouldn't make up domains which are not configured as working - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43123 (10Jon) [21:47:25] Change merged: Yaron Koren; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticInternalObjects] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42134 [21:49:22] heave20: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Configuring_file_uploads#Mass_uploading [21:50:04] There's also UploadWizard, but that's not helpful for 1.16. [21:50:25] Yes, So I have been trying to install phpunit. And after a several failures, I have figured that it needs PHP_CodeCoverge. But again when I tried to install that using pear. It gave me: 'Error: cannot download "phpunit/File_Iterator'. [21:51:17] 03(mod) api of mobile view outputs section headers with HTML differently then normal view - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41546 +comment (10Jon) [21:53:17] Hey, [21:54:21] On Commons (commons.wikimedia.org), "Upload file" no longer links to page "Special:UploadWizard"; I've tried using ?lang=qqx but can't find the page w/ the URL. Is there a way I can restore it to the original URL (to my css file)? [21:54:29] sucheta: What platform are you on? [21:54:51] http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6272264/windows-installing-phpunit-via-pear-installing-phpunit-via-pear suggests that "pear clear-cache" might help. [21:55:08] Thank you marktraceur. Am I wrong in reading that most of these will not work with 1.16? [21:55:26] in fact it looks like all of these, minus the pythons won't work [21:55:30] 03(mod) Distinct edit summaries/tags for image uploads via mobile - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43490 +easy (10Jon) [21:56:02] terrrydactyl: it was okay -- about 4 of the interns were able to come, and we did some introductions, and talked about communication :-) [21:56:29] heave20: Why is 1.16 even a restriction? 1.16 is EOL, it's dead. [21:56:41] varnent: thx [21:57:11] for some reason, Extension:MultiUpload has been removed from ExtensionDistributor [21:57:13] I just took this over sorry. Should I upgrade it? [21:57:20] Yes [21:57:32] We've made a number of security fixes since 1.16 [21:57:43] And we don't support it anymore. [21:57:48] heave20: It seems that way, yeah. I'd suggest upgrading if you can [21:57:49] heave20: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Upgrading#Why_upgrade.3F [21:58:23] sucheta: Did you get what paulproteus said? [21:58:34] sumanah: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6272264/windows-installing-phpunit-via-pear-installing-phpunit-via-pear suggests that "pear clear-cache" might help. [21:58:37] Looks like I'll be upgrading, thanks guys [21:58:39] heave20: before upgrading, be sure you get also the updated extensions that match MediaWiki version, and do a backup first in case something goes wrong [21:58:42] good luck heave20 [21:58:54] I will [21:59:21] paulproteus: I suppose that was for me, amnd not for sumanah :P [21:59:26] d'oh, yes. [21:59:37] :) [21:59:57] New patchset: Kaldari; "Removing redundant part of welcome notification." [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42137 [22:00:02] is there a good example of a gerrit project that i can look at? [22:00:09] I am on ubuntu, btw :) [22:00:46] terrrydactyl: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#q,status:open+project:%255Emediawiki.*,n,z ? [22:01:05] or https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/project:test/mediawiki/extensions/examples,n,z ? https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?p=test/mediawiki/extensions/examples.git;a=summary [22:01:07] sucheta: In that case, stop using pear and do: sudo apt-get install phpunit [22:01:33] paulproteus: Debian package is broken, but. [22:01:40] Huh... what makes it broken? [22:01:59] (What version of Ubuntu?) [22:02:17] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/phpunit/+bug/770394 [22:02:18] what is a change-set defined as? [22:02:18] 03(mod) mailman's public list index (listinfo) has the wrong encoding in its Content-Type header - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40971 +comment (10Daniel Zahn) [22:02:47] sucheta: Got it. In that case, make sure you 'apt-get remove phpunit' to avoid any conflicts with the version you installed with pear. [22:02:51] 03(mod) mailman's public list index (listinfo) has the wrong encoding in its Content-Type header - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40971 +comment (10Daniel Zahn) [22:02:52] * paulproteus is reading http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:PHP_unit_testing/Installing_PHPUnit [22:03:18] paulproteus: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:PHP_unit_testing/Installing_PHPUnit "known issues" [22:03:42] ohcibi, you were already on that :P [22:04:14] terrrydactyl: anytime you tell Gerrit "here's a new commit" that is a changeset, synonymous with patchset [22:04:16] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Tutorial may help you [22:04:19] sorry, off to a meeting [22:04:57] Away a bit, pardon me [22:05:12] No problem :) [22:06:09] thanks for your help! i guess i should read it more thoroughly instead of just cherry picking what i needed [22:06:47] New patchset: Kaldari; "Adding pref message for article linked pref" [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42138 [22:07:34] New patchset: Ori.livneh; "More ad-hoc handling of metadata." [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42139 [22:09:02] New patchset: Kaldari; "Adding pref message for article linked pref" [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42138 [22:11:34] Change merged: Bsitu; [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42138 [22:15:12] terrrydactyl: Watched changes. You receive a mail at each operation (new patchset, review, change merged, etc.) [22:17:29] Dereckson: do you commit code when you add functionality and amend code when you need to fix a commit? [22:17:54] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Gerrit#Creating_a_Gerrit_Change-Set this is a bit unclear [22:20:10] 03(mod) [Statements-ui] Implement other Property-Snak types than Property-Value Snaks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43304 +comment (10Wikidata Bot) [22:20:16] New patchset: Bsitu; "Update Echo to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf7) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42141 [22:20:40] Change merged: Bsitu; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf7) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42141 [22:23:14] terrrydactyl: right [22:23:25] but if you fix a change already merged, this is a new commit too [22:23:49] You only amend a commit when at review time there are improvements suggested [22:24:20] New review: Kghbln; "I have added some comments." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41939 [22:24:26] Change merged: Alex Monk; [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42137 [22:25:35] so what would be considered a change set then? the commit + amends to that particular commit? [22:26:26] a reviewed version of the previous changeset [22:26:35] the same code, but with a typo fixed for example [22:26:49] No, he got it right [22:27:00] oh so the amends are a change set? [22:27:09] Gerrit will have one first changeset for your initial commit, and new changesets for the amendments. [22:27:14] right [22:27:15] 03(mod) mailman's public list index (listinfo) has the wrong encoding in its Content-Type header - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40971 +comment (10Daniel Zahn) [22:27:29] ohhhh, that makes a lot more sense. thanks Dereckson [22:28:16] Here for example you have 8 changesets: the initial commit and 7 amends -> https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/21322/ [22:28:57] they're also called patch sets? [22:29:34] 03(mod) Allow stewards to block an IP locally on Meta-Wiki as part of the global block form - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33585 (10Marco Aurelio) [22:29:52] Yes, changesets and patchsets are synonymous in Gerrit context [22:29:52] New review: Mattflaschen; "Since no one else has reviewed, I did a more careful review., particularly emphasizing docs and conv..." [mediawiki/extensions/Math] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30177 [22:30:20] New patchset: Bsitu; "Update Echo to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf6) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42142 [22:31:06] Change merged: Bsitu; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf6) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42142 [22:32:07] Dereckson: In general, I think it is preferable to use 'change' and 'patchset', and nothing inbetween :-) [22:32:27] Change merged: Bsitu; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf6) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42116 [22:32:42] 03(NEW) Echo message not compatible with LiquidThreads - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43621 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Echo; () [22:35:09] 03(mod) Improve GuidedTour tour API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43530 +comment (10Terry Chay) [22:36:41] Thehelpfulone: my saved search "PostgreSQL" is changed now per email, is it ok now? [22:37:13] yes thanks saper [22:37:14] 03(NEW) Use page in Echo, not article - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43622 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Echo; () [22:37:53] Hi- I'm trying to get ConfirmEdit working on my MediaWiki installation and when I put require_once("$IP/extensions/ConfirmEdit/ConfirmEdit.php"); in LocalSettings.php and don't change or alter any other settings I get this error on the login page http://pastebin.com/EPFa7818 [22:38:51] is there something wrong with the version of ConfirmEdit that I'm using? Or are there settings I should change? I haven't even tried to use CAPTCHAs, just added it to LocalSettings.php [22:39:40] New review: Ori.livneh; "This is the version currently running on Vanadium, so I'm merging to maintain consistency, but I am ..." [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master); V: 0 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42139 [22:39:42] 03(mod) Use page in Echo, not article - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43622 +comment (10Ryan Kaldari) [22:40:59] gwicke: I like how the captchas have the label "security check" [22:41:22] for new accounts [22:41:37] you are very secure if you can solve a captcha ;) [22:41:38] New patchset: Kaldari; "Changing article to page per Siebrand" [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42144 [22:41:53] just intelligent enough to be dangerous [22:42:10] we need an insecurity check [22:42:15] hehe [22:42:26] "are you happy with yourself?" [22:42:26] 03(mod) Use page in Echo, not article - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43622 +comment (10Ryan Kaldari) [22:42:31] 03(mod) Determine best practices for marking up guided tours - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43531 +comment (10Terry Chay) [22:43:55] 03(mod) Improve CAPTCHA readability - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43546 +comment (10Aaron Schulz) [22:45:38] 03(mod) Improve CAPTCHA readability - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43546 +comment (10Steven Walling) [22:46:24] Change merged: Ori.livneh; [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42139 [22:46:35] New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Use rawParams rather than numParams for rev ID" [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42145 [22:47:36] 03(mod) Two spaces in 'donate interface-bank transfer message' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43505 (10Matt Walker) [22:49:46] Change merged: Ori.livneh; [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42145 [22:50:02] New patchset: Mwalker; "Bugfix #43505 - Two spaces in translation message" [mediawiki/extensions/DonationInterface] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42147 [22:50:39] 03(mod) Two spaces in 'donate interface-bank transfer message' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43505 +comment (10Matt Walker) [22:52:14] New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Update EventLogging to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf7) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42053 [22:56:14] Is this error (http://pastebin.com/EPFa7818) that I get after setting up ConfirmEdit on my MediaWiki installation a problem with ConfirmEdit I should report or something I am doing wrong? [22:58:10] Change merged: Ori.livneh; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf7) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42053 [22:59:02] New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Update EventLogging to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf6) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42151 [22:59:38] Change merged: Alex Monk; [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42144 [22:59:53] found a bug in html::public static function openElement... when checking for types, it throws away type attr [23:00:32] hmm maybe not... still checking [23:04:11] New review: Siebrand; "L10n change is fine. Please improve commit message to at least link to the bug fixed." [mediawiki/extensions/DonationInterface] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42147 [23:04:13] there's a typo here: "(Note that git add newly stages files. But git -a stages any files previously committed.)" git -a doesn't do anything. is it trying to say git add -A? [23:04:19] 03(mod) Improve GuidedTour tour API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43530 +comment (10Matthew Flaschen) [23:06:49] New patchset: Brent Garber; "Fix changes for Ia1878588 to work with real databases" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42153 [23:08:02] Change merged: Ori.livneh; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf6) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42151 [23:10:07] 03(mod) Improve GuidedTour tour API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43530 +comment (10Steven Walling) [23:11:37] Shidash: I looks like your version of php may be outdated [23:12:26] Change abandoned: Siebrand; "Reverted changes in English." [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42167 [23:13:57] csteipp: It is version 5.2.17 now. hm, I hope I can update it. I don't currently run my own server and am using Bluehost for hosting [23:16:51] Shidash: yeah, php only added __DIR__ in 5.3, iirc. You may be able to use an older version of ConfirmEdit, if you get it from git, before those paths were updated. Or you could update the paths yourself, and that would at least get it working for you. But you may hit some other issues with 1.20 in general using an old version of php. [23:17:05] 03(mod) Special:MobileDiff: Call to a member function getPrevious() on a non-object - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43267 +comment (10Jon) [23:18:15] 03(mod) Improve CAPTCHA readability - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43546 +comment (10Ryan Kaldari) [23:19:27] 03(mod) Improve CAPTCHA readability - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43546 +comment (10Steven Walling) [23:20:46] 03(mod) Improve GuidedTour tour API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43530 +comment (10Matthew Flaschen) [23:21:15] 03(mod) Add non-English wiki support to Parsoid - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43332 +comment (10Mark Holmquist) [23:21:18] terrrydactyl: did you get your questions answered? [23:21:24] 03(mod) Improve GuidedTour tour API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43530 +comment (10Matthew Flaschen) [23:23:02] sumanah: i think things are much clearer now, but i've yet to make an amend so i might still get stuck [23:23:10] good luck! [23:23:32] thanks! i'm trying to figure out how the formatting for the i18n file is supposed to be [23:23:47] so far i've just been working on a skeleton program that another applicant worked on [23:23:54] so i don't know where she pulled her information from [23:24:38] like https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?p=mediawiki/extensions/CommunityHiring.git;a=blob;f=Messages.php;h=6fa7833516a62f96a4d71043124e1e1e13139297;hb=cb2fc3c96dd0160f6829e5231b53f7a716406978 for instance? [23:26:32] 03(mod) Improve GuidedTour tour API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43530 +comment (10Terry Chay) [23:27:09] hi sumanah :) [23:28:27] hi hoo, how are you? [23:28:39] I'm fine, thanks :) [23:30:01] 03(mod) Improve GuidedTour tour API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43530 +comment (10Steven Walling) [23:30:07] ping blobaugh [23:30:11] New patchset: Spage; "bug 43191 tag edits from GS in RecentChanges" [mediawiki/extensions/GettingStarted] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42198 [23:30:25] sumanah: Do you know any database experts who do mediawiki core review? https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41196 ... [23:30:56] hoo: There's Asher and Patrick - they would be good choices [23:31:52] sumanah: I can't find "Patrick" on gerrit... what's his name there? [23:32:05] hoo: I'm talking about preilly [23:33:20] csteipp: Thanks. I updated my PHP version and now I'm getting http://pastebin.com/9ffEryd1 with 5.3. It looks like some people were having this issue when they upgraded MediaWiki but not ConfirmEdit but I should have the latest version of both [23:34:03] Ok, added them :) There's a quite big review backlog atm (at least on my dashboard :P). Thanks for your help :) [23:34:08] Are you running 1.20? Or 1.19? [23:36:26] 03(mod) Improve GuidedTour tour API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43530 +comment (10Matthew Flaschen) [23:36:33] hoo: yes, there is :/ [23:36:49] csteipp: Hm, maybe I'm not running the latest version of MediaWiki. I'm running 1.18. Let me see if upgrading fixes it [23:36:54] Dereckson: I'm trying to amend a change and when my message window opened, it had the commit message from a different author, do i erase it and write my own commit message? also is there a certain formatting for writing commit messages? [23:37:13] however, hoo, in order for you to feel better about your change, try reading https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Database_layout/MySQL_Optimization/Tutorial [23:37:34] terrrydactyl: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Commit_message_guidelines [23:37:34] Shidash: Yeah, WebRequest::getIP was added... I think in 1.19 or 1.20. So upgrading will solve *that* problem :) [23:37:47] terrrydactyl: when you fix a code from someone else, you don't have to amend the last commit, but create a new one [23:38:05] amend the last commit is when you change your own patchset [23:38:52] so, Raimond edited my files and committed this change https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/42079/ [23:39:18] and then i went in a changed the formatting commented by siebrand [23:39:32] do i commit it as a change or amend it? [23:41:05] Dereckson, terrrydactyl: There is nothing stopping you from amending someone else's patchset. [23:43:11] ok, here is a strange bit of code: [23:43:13] # More subtle checks [23:43:13] if ( $element === 'link' && isset( $attribs['type'] ) [23:43:13] && strval( $attribs['type'] ) == 'text/css' ) { [23:43:13] unset( $attribs['type'] ); [23:43:13] } [23:44:09] this is from html::dropDefaults does anyone know why this code is there? thanks [23:44:51] hypergrove: Because type="text/css" is superfulus. [23:45:20] superfluous [23:45:22] And how so? [23:45:37] Because text/css is the default... [23:46:02] Though perhaps a check for rel=stylesheet may be desired. [23:46:06] [23:46:48] New patchset: awjrichards; "Makes WebRequest::detectProtocolAndStdPort() take HTTP_X_FORWARDED_PROTO headers into account" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42204 [23:47:33] hm, I'm not actually sure I can upgrade because I have no way to run an update script [23:47:43] and manually adding the files would take way too long [23:48:09] terrrydactyl: well, the ideal social attitude in this case is to review the Raymond's change, and to ask him to amend that [23:48:18] [23:48:31] for some reason my hosting doesn't give me an option to update MediaWiki even thought it does for other installations. Drat it, I need to get my own server running again [23:49:07] well, dropping type=text/css is causing me problems in hosted environs [23:49:14] terrrydactyl: once he submit a new patchset, you will be able review +2 and merge it [23:49:14] 03(mod) Improve CAPTCHA readability - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43546 +comment (10MZMcBride) [23:49:42] 03(mod) Improve GuidedTour tour API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43530 +comment (10Steven Walling) [23:49:48] Dereckson: while he's making the changes, i can work on my code as well and then do a rebase? [23:50:11] right [23:51:00] siebrand already commented on the formatting, is it necessary for me to also note it? [23:51:23] 03(mod) Improve GuidedTour tour API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43530 +comment (10Matthew Flaschen) [23:52:20] before, i got error that the type=text/html file would not be loaded by FF. Now I get [15:50:45.044] The stylesheet http://www.bestpracticeswiki.net/skins/twentyten/main.css?303 was loaded as CSS even though its MIME type, "text/html", is not "text/css". @ http://www.bestpracticeswiki.net/index.php?title=Main_Page&useskin=twentyten [23:52:31] No, it's not. [23:52:50] Some people are very slow to amend their own changes. [23:53:01] Sometimes, it takes as long as 6 months. [23:53:26] But usually, it's a matter of days. [23:53:43] 03(mod) Re-enable Squid updates in HTMLCacheUpdate - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43341 +comment (10MZMcBride) [23:56:34] from W3: Documents that include elements that set the style attribute but which don't define a default style sheet language are incorrect. [23:56:48] 03(mod) Improve GuidedTour tour API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43530 +comment (10Matthew Flaschen) [23:57:29] MW docs do not specify a META for the default ss language and they strip out type=text/css ... [23:57:44] reference [23:57:46] 03(mod) Improve GuidedTour tour API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43530 +comment (10Matthew Flaschen) [23:57:57] Dereckson: I see a lot of branching going on for the workflow. Most examples are when you're working on a specific bug or something. I created a branch github to pull another applications skeleton code for the project. is it a good idea to create another branch that's more descriptive like "extensions/Git2Pages"? [23:59:21] New patchset: Ori.livneh; "supervisord config: tidy syntax, consolidate logs" [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42206